Canterbury Wednesday Night Ride

[gloplg]

Here is the rest of the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UM3-IgPtA

[Spuds1234]

Here is the rest of the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UM3-IgPtA

Where in this vid does the cyclist action happen? I cant find it.

[gloplg]

I don't think she was playing power games, I think she's just dumb!

p.s. you need a better horn, especially for that kind of situation ... :D

Yes PT I agree the honda, like most bikes needs a better horn. I would prefer a railcar horn which would "blow your Knickers off" however it would need a v8 to power the compressor to drive it. I'm thinking of air horns, which would merely cause laundry problems with your nickers rather than removal of them.:killingme:killingme

Having watched the video a number of times, it is after I start sounding the horn that the cyclist moves further towards the centre of the road.

[gloplg]

Where in this vid does the cyclist action happen? I cant find it.

That's because I posted the short version just for you Alex.:lol::lol:

[Subike]

send this vidio clip of the cyclist to the minister of police,
This is an axample of why our road toll is so high.
I was the second bike behind gloplug when passing this courteous road user
she moved closer to me as I was passing, I was almost over the center line.
This was happening less than 50 meters from a blind downhill 35kph tight left hander on a narrow section of road.
A vehicle coming the other way could have created a potential serious situation.
the woman was traveling at 55kph and accelerating!
she was only just in control.

[Shadows]

Here is the rest of the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UM3-IgPtA

What a fucktard (the bimbo, not you)

[Peeteey]

Speaking of videos, here's a little one from my lovely Saturday evening ride to Port Levy. Smoochily nice evening for it ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzUy7qp1gdg

Weather looks ok for tomorrow. Am keen if anyone else is ...

[brp]

Here is the rest of the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UM3-IgPtA

That was magic - cheers for posting it :first:

[Mully Clown]

Here is something you may have seen in Governors Bay.

Cyclist playing power games. Does that push anyone's buttons???:angry2::angry2::bash::bash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JRxIhiOLQs

I wasn't there at the time but my views differ from comments so far.

The video and recent posts highlight both an annoying cyclist and some impatient, inconsiderate motorcyclists. I have been known to go for the occasional cycle ride around the bays and would be disgusted if I was overtaken in such a rude manner just because I was inconveniencing someone for all of ten seconds.


she moved closer to me as I was passing, I was almost over the center line.
This was happening less than 50 meters from a blind downhill 35kph tight left hander on a narrow section of road.
A vehicle coming the other way could have created a potential serious situation.
the woman was traveling at 55kph and accelerating!
she was only just in control.

It's a 50kph zone. Why was there such a need to overtake? Was it not possible to hold back and overtake at a more suitable time?

Just my 0.003 cents.

[FJRider]

Here is something you may have seen in Governors Bay.

Cyclist playing power games. Does that push anyone's buttons???:angry2::angry2::bash::bash:




As she was on a legal vehicle ... travelling just over the posted speed limit (apparently) why the "anger" ... ??? Do you have more right to be on the road than she has ???

Aside from the fact that SHE had the legal right to use the road ... just as you have. You have the responsibility to pass her safely. Without endangering her, yourself ... or any other road user.

Perhaps a little self control on your part.

[gloplg]

I wasn't there at the time but my views differ from comments so far.

The video and recent posts highlight both an annoying cyclist and some impatient, inconsiderate motorcyclists. I have been known to go for the occasional cycle ride around the bays and would be disgusted if I was overtaken in such a rude manner just because I was inconveniencing someone for all of ten seconds.

So would you be riding so close to the middle of the road. Or weaving across the lane so much. From the little that I know of you I don't think so.

[FJRider]

So would you be riding so close to the middle of the road. Or weaving across the lane so much. From the little that I know of you I don't think so.

She was in her lane ... where were you when you overtook her ???

And you think she was dangerous.

[gloplg]

As she was on a legal vehicle ... travelling just over the posted speed limit (apparently) why the "anger" ... ??? Do you have more right to be on the road than she has ???

Aside from the fact that SHE had the legal right to use the road ... just as you have. You have the responsibility to pass her safely. Without endangering her, yourself ... or any other road user.

Perhaps a little self control on your part.

You can tell from the video that the bike is roadworthy???

The cyclists speed was 40k. (Off the vid)

Correct me if I am wrong, the road code says that on a single lane road we must travel as close to the left as practical???

The two cyclists behind the rider in the blue top were riding within a metre of the footpath, The rearmost was a man in a dark top with a blue bag on his back. The second rider was a lady wearing an orange top.

As for keeping as close to the left as practical, the video shows the first rider weaving across the lane several times to within a metre of the centre line. The video does not lie.

Also on closer inspection of the videos I think rider referred to was not a she.

[gloplg]

She was in her lane ... where were you when you overtook her ???

And you think she was dangerous.

The cyclist was all over the lane, and the video shows where I was when I overtook Him. And yes he was putting himself and other road users at risk.

What are you so angry about??

[FJRider]

You can tell from the video that the bike is roadworthy???

The cyclists speed was 40k. (Off the vid)

Correct me if I am wrong, the road code says that on a single lane road we must travel as close to the left as practical???

The two cyclists behind the rider in the blue top were riding within a metre of the footpath, The rearmost was a man in a dark top with a blue bag on his back. The second rider was a lady wearing an orange top.

As for keeping as close to the left as practical, the video shows the first rider weaving across the lane several times to within a metre of the centre line. The video does not lie.

Also on closer inspection of the videos I think rider referred to was not a she.

It makes no difference if the bike was "roadworthy" or not (or male or female). Just because another is breaking any traffic regulation ... is not a valid reason to break any yourself. If you had collided with her, or caused her to crash .... or you crashed into a vehicle coming the other way)You could be held responsible. The vid would show THAT too. The keeping as far as practible, applies as much to the cyclist ... as to you. In single lane traffic ... motorcycles have as much right to the road as any other road user.

If your rego plate was noted ... and a complaint to police was made ... that vid may be used against you in court (well done you for that :lol:) It would not be the first time a "me doing dumb shit" type vid has come back to bite the poster in the bum.

So you passed a vehicle travelling at 40 kms/hr ... what was the speed limit there again ???

[FJRider]

The cyclist was all over the lane, and the video shows where I was when I overtook Him. And yes he was putting himself and other road users at risk.

For the want of waiting a few minutes to pass safely on a straight piece of road ... what was your hurry ??? Leaning on the horn may have caused the cyclist to freeze .. and veer more into your path ... and at your speed ... the end result may have been a dam sight more serious.


What are you so angry about??

You doing dumb shit and putting blame on somebody else ... and you bitch about ACC levies going up. I wonder if your vid attracts the attention of a popo that is familiar with the area (you wont be hard to find ) and sends you mail.

[been_there]

:corn:
Waiting.....

[gloplg]

Here is something you may have seen in Governors Bay.

Cyclist playing power games. Does that push anyone's buttons???:angry2::angry2::bash::bash:


20 seconds or so of vid.

The rest of the video for the ride is coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JRxIhiOLQs

Perhaps a slightly better view

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohpVSBNoZz8

[gloplg]

It makes no difference if the bike was "roadworthy" or not (or male or female). Just because another is breaking any traffic regulation ... is not a valid reason to break any yourself. If you had collided with her, or caused her to crash .... or you crashed into a vehicle coming the other way)You could be held responsible. The vid would show THAT too. The keeping as far as practible, applies as much to the cyclist ... as to you. In single lane traffic ... motorcycles have as much right to the road as any other road user.

If your rego plate was noted ... and a complaint to police was made ... that vid may be used against you in court (well done you for that :lol:) It would not be the first time a "me doing dumb shit" type vid has come back to bite the poster in the bum.

So you passed a vehicle travelling at 40 kms/hr ... what was the speed limit there again ???


For the want of waiting a few minutes to pass safely on a straight piece of road ... what was your hurry ??? Leaning on the horn may have caused the cyclist to freeze .. and veer more into your path ... and at your speed ... the end result may have been a dam sight more serious.



You doing dumb shit and putting blame on somebody else ... and you bitch about ACC levies going up. I wonder if your vid attracts the attention of a popo that is familiar with the area (you wont be hard to find ) and sends you mail.

Perhaps we will agree to disagree

[brp]

"A cynic would say the $500 plus a year rego gives motorcyclists more right to be on the road" :lol:

Who hasn't seen two abreast cyclist nattering away - (If they were cycling any slower they would fall off) up on the hills where its open speed limit ?

Anyone in a vehicle coming round a corner its just an accident waiting to happen, even if they been extra careful and traveling at 50 km/hr.

The hill and bay roads are to narrow for cyclists that do not travel at the speed of the Rest of the traffic that the speed limit is set for - period !

Save the bays for a motorbike, feet on the walking tracks or a boat.

No worries out Bottlelake for cyclists or cycle paths or if you really have to do it - Wide roads :D

[willytheekid]

Perhaps we will agree to disagree

Yeah...right!

Don't count on it mate, FJ's NEVER wrong...didn't ya know
For the record gloplg...I didn't think you did anything wrong, you reacted to a cyclist BREAKING THE LAW, and in doing so, he put the both of you at risk. (Obstructing traffic flow, failure to keep left and bordering on loss of control of a vehicle...all illegal)

What IS clear in this thread, is the instant defence of a cyclist in the wrong from other cyclists!.

Yet everyday we see them...running red lights and giveways, skipping up on to the foot path and then claiming that WE are the ones putting THEM at risk:facepalm:

...To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant.

[Box of riddles]

What's the destination tonight, will possibly turn up since works toned down a bit.

[Shoshoni]

Was a nice ride tonight we went to Little River stopped had diner & chatted :drinknsin. Think all the lake flies seen us go past and decided to wait till we went home before they came out to play. Side note remember to wear a clear visor since it's getting darker earlier.

[Transalper]

Good run tonight, four of us... couple of new WNR'ers and couple of regulars (if Shoshoni and I can be called regular).
We rode over Dyres Pass round the bays to (and over) Gebbies Pass and finished at the little River Pub where we all sat down for tea.
We talked about video cameras (Go ProHD vs VIO P.O.V. HD pros and cons) and the art of staying alive, (that's roadcraft) as couple of us have just done some riding safety courses. Well at $50 each right now why wouldn't you if you can.

:rockon:

Edit: ahh I see Shoshoni bet me to the post button.

[Asher]

Gutted i didnt go, i had the bike apart fixing a oil leak. Definitely coming next week

[gammaguy]

Gutted i didnt go, i had the bike apart fixing a oil leak. Definitely coming next week

crikey what would a reliable RGV be doing leaking oil??

[KiwiPhoenix]

crikey what would a reliable RGV be doing leaking oil??

Marking it's territory! :lol:

[gloplg]

To all of you heading away this weekend.

Travel safely, stay warm and dry and enjoy yourselves. You lucky so and so's I hope the weather is :sunny::sunny::sunny: for you!!!

Hey and don't forget to take lots of pics and vids to post.

[gloplg]

Edit: ahh I see Shoshoni bet me to the post button.

These younger ones can be very fast on the draw.

:2guns::2guns::2guns:

[KiwiPhoenix]

To all of you heading away this weekend.

Travel safely, stay warm and dry and enjoy yourselves. You lucky so and so's I hope the weather is :sunny::sunny::sunny: for you!!!

Hey and don't forget to take lots of pics and vids to post.

Second this, have a fantastic weekend!

[gloplg]

Second this, have a fantastic weekend!

You mean you are not going?????

And speeking of going. ............. Does anyone want to go for a ride on Sunday????

[KiwiPhoenix]

You mean you are not going?????

And speeking of going. ............. Does anyone want to go for a ride on Sunday????

Not this year, have many things happening at the mo that need that money!

[gloplg]

Not this year, have many things happening at the mo that need that money!

Money????? .................... Is that the stuff that other people have????

[neels]

Money????? .................... Is that the stuff that other people have????
Some of us have some to spend on motorbike stuff, helps to have the government buy your house....

[brp]

You mean you are not going?????

And speeking of going. ............. Does anyone want to go for a ride on Sunday????

Keen for ride up to the bealey for some grub, could meet at russley garage and shoot up old west coast rd

(Link below from metservice, hovering cursor over sun/clouds gives more detail)

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/weather/weatherdetail.aspx?wla=5

[gloplg]

Keen for ride up to the bealey for some grub, could meet at russley garage and shoot up old west coast rd

(Link below from metservice, hovering cursor over sun/clouds gives more detail)

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/weather/weatherdetail.aspx?wla=5

Sounds like a good ride. You enjoy!!!! :scooter::ride: safe and take some pics/vids to post.

I have to stick close to home this week, something to do with that M word that KP used earlier. Also have some air horns that I need to fabricate mounts for. (Air horns might have something to do with that M word????):Oops::Oops::nya::nya:

And thanks for the link for the weather forecast.

[gloplg]

Some of us have some to spend on motorbike stuff, helps to have the government buy your house....

Glad you have had some good news. It has been a shit/shakey year or so.

[brp]

Sounds like a good ride. You enjoy!!!! :scooter::ride: safe and take some pics/vids to post.

I have to stick close to home this week, something to do with that M word that KP used earlier. Also have some air horns that I need to fabricate mounts for. (Air horns might have something to do with that M word????):Oops::Oops::nya::nya:

And thanks for the link for the weather forecast.



Save it for a better day - next sunday ?

"Those duke boy horns really going to pimp the GB up" :2thumbsup

[Shoshoni]

Well I ended up going for a ride today went out to Coutts Island checking out all those new car parks that no one uses:crazy:, then off to the North Side of the Wiamakarri. One of the stock banks has gotten a make over looks odd with all the tree felling going on, got to the ford by Dog Trail Rd stopped and had a look but wasn't game to do it by my self.

Didn't turn out to be a bad day except for the wind on the way back.

[gloplg]

Save it for a better day - next sunday ?

"Those duke boy horns really going to pimp the GB up" :2thumbsup


Didn't turn out to be a bad day except for the wind on the way back.

Yes it has been a nice afternoon.

I hope the members who were out of town this weekend had a good time. Pics??? Vids????

Anyway I've organised to have this Wednesday off work. Weather permitting what about heading up to Greta Valley this week???

[Spuds1234]

I hope the members who were out of town this weekend had a good time. Pics??? Vids????

What happens at the rally, stays at the rally.

[Subike]

Yes it has been a nice afternoon.

I hope the members who were out of town this weekend had a good time. Pics??? Vids????



Missed the rain by going down friday,
survived the windy rain filled fir night
enjoyed the sunny sat and got my face sunburnt
Complained that I could not put my bike in yet another bike show
(not cat for Chinese bikes)
Got home sun mid day
$32 of fuel and 487 miles traveld at just ova 100Kph,
And.....................you were not there so cant say

[Jen]

Well since the thread is Wednesday night ride, and tomorrow is Wednesday....6:30 departure at the BK carpark if the weather is suitable...heading where? ideas?:2thumbsup

[Shadowjack]

Somebody mentioned Greta Valley - if that's a goer, I'll see y'all at Chaneys.

[SpeedMonger]

Yes it has been a nice afternoon.

I hope the members who were out of town this weekend had a good time. Pics??? Vids????

Anyway I've organised to have this Wednesday off work. Weather permitting what about heading up to Greta Valley this week???:nya:

Sounds good to me GP, if thats the go then I will probably meet up at Amberley if I'm not at BK.

[Asher]

If the weather is looking ok i might come out, if we do go to greta valley i will probably only go as far as amberley

[Jen]

Somebody mentioned Greta Valley - if that's a goer, I'll see y'all at Chaneys.

I"m a starter at chaneys then as well :banana:

[gloplg]

:nya:

Sounds good to me GP, if thats the go then I will probably meet up at Amberley if I'm not at BK.

OK Mr Net.

Weather forecast looks ???????????????? .................. Might have to get the wet weather gear out.

[Jally Bean]

OK Mr Net.

Weather forecast looks ???????????????? .................. Might have to get the wet weather gear out.

I was so looking forward to a ride over my side of town - meeting you at Chaneys would have been perfect, but no I think I am not up to the weather sorry :crybaby:

[gloplg]

I was so looking forward to a ride over my side of town - meeting you at Chaneys would have been perfect, but no I think I am not up to the weather sorry :crybaby:

Let's wait and see what the weather is like later????



OK so it is later. 17.16 or 5.16pm. Cloudy but dry (At the moment). Warm clothing weather.


See you all at the arranged spots!!!!!!!

[Jen]

Let's wait and see what the weather is like later????

So now its later, had a slight drizzle on way home from work, keen to get out but not sure about a ride to greta valley...thats a bit of a hike isnt it?

[Jen]

So now its later, had a slight drizzle on way home from work, keen to get out but not sure about a ride to greta valley...thats a bit of a hike isnt it?

sorry missed that post gloplg, said it was posted at 10:19 so maybe you edited it...fine by me i'll meet at chaneys still, what the hell lol wet weather gear on and thermals its all good! :rolleyes: cya at chaneys!

[Transalper]

Ha ha, the trouble with edits, they don't show up as new posts in subscriptions or on the forum index.

I went out in the sunshine yesterday so think I will skip tonight.

Distances....
Gretta (~80km to 100km depending upon going via Waikari or not) is about the same as the Akaroa distance (~83km) but a bit longer than the Little River run (~55km each way).

[SpeedMonger]

OK Mr Net.

Weather forecast looks ???????????????? .................. Might have to get the wet weather gear out.

Going to pike out, it is raining out here, and can't be arsed getting gear wet and riding slowly lol so enjoy the ride if you go.

[gloplg]

Seven of us arrived mostly intact at Greta Valley having had a slightly damp ride. One of our number stopped to pick daisies along the way. He was soon back on his bike and manfully took the ribbing he got at the pub. I hope you will continue to ride with us.

It was a little damper coming home.

Those of our number who piked missed a good if cool and damp ride.

Next week I've organised to be off again. Little River via Barry's Bay anyone?????

[Box of riddles]

Seven of us arrived mostly intact at Greta Valley having had a slightly damp ride. One of our number stopped to pick daisies along the way. He was soon back on his bike and manfully took the ribbing he got at the pub. I hope you will continue to ride with us.

It was a little damper coming home.

Those of our number who piked missed a good if cool and damp ride.

Next week I've organised to be off again. Little River via Barry's Bay anyone?????

I'll be back after I fix my bike :p

tis a shame you didn't get it on camera.

[gloplg]

I'll be back after I fix my bike :p

tis a shame you didn't get it on camera.

Very glad to hear you are not giving up on us BOR. I hope the rest of your motorcycling will be incident free.

I doubt there is room in the group for more than one film star.:lol::lol: And Dave laid down on the road so elegantly, then continued to give me cornering lessons with no footpegs on his bike.

[Box of riddles]

Very glad to hear you are not giving up on us BOR. I hope the rest of your motorcycling will be incident free.

I doubt there is room in the group for more than one film star.:lol::lol: And Dave laid down on the road so elegantly, then continued to give me cornering lessons with no footpegs on his bike.

Yeah but he didn't dance with his bike, I managed to get mine over me somehow ::cool:

[Asher]

Definatly a good ride, too bad about the rain on the way back to amberley. I will defiantly be back next week although I might buy bk a bit earlier next time

[Transalper]

Saddens me that on this Wednesday Night Ride, a ride that was meant to help learners pick up some knowledge, that another rider appears to have run out of road yet again.
What's happening and why ??


On another topic, I'm thinking about lunch in Reefton via Lewis on either the 24th if weather look ok (or 31st as a backup date) this month. They be Saturdays. Anyone interested in a cruise there without breaking any speed limits ?

Might start a new thread closer to the day.
Thinking it would be 8:30am depart from the Peg for lunch about mid day at the Bakery/Cafe first on the left.

[jim.cox]

Saddens me that on this Wednesday Night Ride, a ride that was meant to help learners pick up some knowledge, that another rider appears to have run out of road yet again.
What's happening and why ??

Been wondering the same thing myself

Maybe that's why I'm very picky with whom I choose to ride, and why I usually prefer to avoid group rides

[Box of riddles]

Saddens me that on this Wednesday Night Ride, a ride that was meant to help learners pick up some knowledge, that another rider appears to have run out of road yet again.
What's happening and why ??


On another topic, I'm thinking about lunch in Reefton via Lewis on either the 24th or 31st this month. They be Saturdays. Anyone interested in a cruise there without breaking any speed limits ?

Might start a new thread closer, when I have the date finalised.

I fucked up and took a corner too fast in the wet.
Really stupid mistake, but lesson learnt.

Thankfully I landed in long grass and the worst I did to myself was sprain my neck :baby:

[Transalper]

...about lunch in Reefton via Lewis on either the 24th or 31st this month. They be Saturdays. Anyone interested in a cruise there without breaking any speed limits ?....
Will make it the 24th if weather looks ok, 31st as the backup date. Probably depart from the Peg (Belfast Tavern) at 8:30am aiming to be at the Bakery/Cafe about mid day.


...took a corner too fast in the wet.
Really stupid mistake, but lesson learnt...
Ok, so that is usually what happens with or without the wet.
Been there, done that... long time ago now.
Several Road Saftey Courses and an attitude adjustment since then, I'm planning for it not to happen again.

I wonder what you think the actual lesson was and could anyone here have said or done anything to make you think more about what you are doing thus maybe preventing the event.
I'd love to get much deeper in to this but not so much online as it really is hard to get to know the real person and their thought processes over the net.

:grouphug:

[Shadowjack]

On another topic, I'm thinking about lunch in Reefton via Lewis on either the 24th or 31st this month. They be Saturdays. Anyone interested in a cruise there without breaking any speed limits ?

Might start a new thread closer, when I have the date finalised.

Always a good run - I'd be a starter (but would confirm closer to the time).

[Subike]

Saddens me that on this Wednesday Night Ride, a ride that was meant to help learners pick up some knowledge, that another rider appears to have run out of road yet again.
What's happening and why ??


When you ride as often as we do, and in so many differing conditions, differing styles of bikes and differing skill levels,
Incidents will happen more so than if you are riding alone.
My own incident was due to a change of bike style,
Going from a naked sports tourer, with plenty of HP, good brakes and good tires
To a lower powered cruiser style bike which was brand new, only 200Km on the clock
with brakes not yet worn in properly, tires that were of poor quality, and riding it too fast for its ability to handle the conditions.
Going into the corner too fast, relying only on the front brake, and expecting the bike to turn like my bigger road bike does.
The front just plain did not grip, and she lay down on me in protest.
I have since then learnt a different style of riding, with fewer expectations of the bikes ability.
And that is where I think our problems stem from
We ride together each week, and see what others are doing with their ride,
We expect our own ability and our bikes ability to match what we see
This does not always work.
Does this mean we should stop?, No, Does it mean we should change how we ride in groups? No.
It in the end comes back to the individual to make the choice how they ride and with whom.
I am still learning , after riding for more years than I will admit to, and I am still a novice.
Every bike rides a different way, every rider has his style, every road its own dangers
Nobody can ever learn it all, no matter how many miles they ride.
You are foolish to think you ever will.
Ride to the conditions, ride your own ride, dont ride to your EGO.

[neels]

Ride to the conditions, ride your own ride, dont ride to your EGO.
That sums it up, unfortunately the nature of group rides can mean people will try and keep up with the guy in front, whereas I'm quite happy for them to wait for me to eventually turn up...still in one piece

[Transalper]

When you ride as often as we do, and in so many differing conditions, differing styles of bikes and differing skill levels,
Incidents will happen more so than if you are riding alone.....
You almost make it sound like you're ok with people crashing. I'm sorry but I'm not ok with it.
I'm a little doubtful that we can stop it, but surely we can do something to minimise it as it feels like it is happening far to often.


..... Nobody can ever learn it all, no matter how many miles they ride.
You are foolish to think you ever will.
I totally agree, it's a point they usually make when you do rider training courses, even the professionals don't proclaim to know it all.
I'll assume you aren't suggesting I think I know it all, now that would be stupid.
I would however suggest a lot of riders know less than they think they do and rely on luck far more than they actually realise.



Ride to the conditions, ride your own ride, dont ride to your EGO.
Never a truer word spoken.
Something that's often easier to say than do.

[gloplg]

Saddens me that on this Wednesday Night Ride, a ride that was meant to help learners pick up some knowledge, that another rider appears to have run out of road yet again.

Are you sad enough to come to the WNR on a regular basis and teach the learners from your fount of knowledge???

We do need someone to take the learners under their wing!!!

Also I would point out post 1 first sentence of "rule 1".

[Spuds1234]

Guys stop your bickering.

Invariably when you get a bunch of riders together with different skill levels ranging from newbie to experienced your going to see the odd time when people run out of skill and then sadly road.

It happens. Those of us that have been riding a while generally notice the signs that we are running out of skill sooner (such as running wide in a corner) than the newbies and back it off a bit and continue to ride safely.

The newbies (and this was me at one point) just keep pushing it. They think whoops took that a bit wide (still using running wide as an example), never mind I'll carry on doing what Im doing. It isn't until they run into bigger trouble occasionally running wide for example that they realize "Hey this might be a sign" and then start slowing down. Its called experience, and no amount of warning will ever be as good as first hand experience.

It always sucks to be in a group ride and finding yourself attending an accident. I've been on 3 such rides and none of them were much fun. But its a risk you take and must accept when you join a group ride. You dont know what other peoples skill levels are like until you see them ride and its hard to tell someone to slow down when your not regularly stopping.

So what do we do about it? Continue to stress the mantra of "Ride your own ride" and make sure there is an experienced rider playing tail end charlie so no one gets left behind. Stress that its more important to arrive in one piece an get there as fast as you can. And continue to give out advice where its appropriate.

Beyond that you may as well tell new riders to piss off because they are more likely to crash which isn't going to help our cause in the slightest.

Right there's my caffeine fueled rant for the day. Can you lot now get back to discussing where your going to ride to next without me so I can feel feel like stink for breaking my collar bone (stupid fragile fucking thing).

[gloplg]

Guys stop your bickering.

Are you trying to stop us having fun Alex??????:girlfight::girlfight:

I agree with the rest of what you are saying . However it is only by pushing the boundaries that all of us gain experience. (even an old fart like me)

On the last WNR the roads were wet and dry. Which for the less experienced rider makes reading the conditions awkward. Dan came to grief about quarter way into the Scargill Valley road. I think (correct me if I am wrong) Dan may have been leading the second group.

One of my pet hates is having a sub-group of riders lead by a newby. Some of our riders appear to think that the L plate stands for LEADER!!!! For heavens sake if you are an experienced rider, in a sub-group, being led by an inexperienced rider, go to the front of the group. When at the front adjust your speed to stay 50 or so metres in front of the newby. With someone to follow, newbies have a guide as to corner entry speeds, braking points and cornering angles. It may take a while but when they get the hang of following you the whole group will travel more quickly and safely. And the newby will be gaining EXPERIENCE because YOU were proactive.

Think yourselves how much easier it is to follow an experienced rider rather than "break ground" yourself.

Yes I know "Shut up Garry"!!!!

Next WNR Little River Pub via Barrys Bay anyone???????

[Spuds1234]

Are you trying to stop us having fun Alex??????:girlfight::girlfight:

If I cant have fun then no one can.


However it is only by pushing the boundaries that all of us gain experience. (even an old fart like me)

Indeed, and as a rider I push my boundaries all the time. However when I find myself starting to make mistakes I back off and carry on with the rest of my ride. Some days I can push the envelope for an hour or two, others only 5 minutes. Knowing also when to push the envelope and when its time to stop comes with experience.

That in my opinion is the difference between a good rider and a new rider.

Even having a newbie follow an experienced rider is fraught with problems. A new rider my initially be keeping up, but as fatigue sets in they may find their skill level falling, then they make a mistake because they were following you, the rider infront and not riding their own ride, and then your back in accident territory.

So your back to square one again. You either ride alone or you accept the risks of riding in a group. Your always going to have accidents when people travel on the roads, we are after all only human. If you can lead a bunch of newbies then thats great but its hard to give constructive feedback to anyone when they are behind you, then they may and crash when they are on their own (which is arguably much worse than if they were traveling in a group). You have to trust yourself the riders around you to make the right decisions about their riding while you are riding with them. If you cant trust those you ride with then dont ride with them. Its that easy.

Im not going to comment on Dans accident. I wasn't on the ride, I didn't see it, and quite frankly I dont care (Im not really that heartless but he walked away and he's still riding his bike so there is nothing to care about IMO). I only posted because I was sick of reading pages of arguing.

Now back to your usual program of "Where shall we ride to" and "When Spuds gets better we should go for on a Jacksons Pie run (I dont care if its going to be winter time when that comes around, fuck you I want a pie)".

[neels]

"When Spuds gets better we should go for on a Jacksons Pie run (I dont care if its going to be winter time when that comes around, fuck you I want a pie)".
mmmmm, pie.....

[cruza]

mmmmm, pie.....

First interesting post in a page or so .........Pie run sat ? Sun weather sounds crap ......

[Spuds1234]

First interesting post in a page or so .........Pie run sat ? Sun weather sounds crap ......

Screw Saturday. Didn't you read my other post. No pie run until Im better lol.

If you do go on a pie run tomorrow be sure to eat a pie or two for me.

[Oakie]

Now play nice kids and I might even drag the Bandit out with you folk this Wednesday. I'm at a loose end with Mrs Oakie away next week so if work and weather play ball I just might come along. Any other old farts (i.e. over 40) still attending regularly?

[Box of riddles]

Now play nice kids and I might even drag the Bandit out with you folk this Wednesday. I'm at a loose end with Mrs Oakie away next week so if work and weather play ball I just might come along. Any other old farts (i.e. over 40) still attending regularly?

Everyones old on the WNR :killingme
Or maybe it's just my perspective, haha.
I'll be along if I can figure out a way to stick mirrors on my poor bike.

[Oakie]

I'll be along if I can figure out a way to stick mirrors on my poor bike.

Hmm. You could tie them on with a piece of leftover powerband. Red is best.

[Box of riddles]

Hmm. You could tie them on with a piece of leftover powerband. Red is best.

I always heard purple gave you the best midrange.

[Transalper]

...Next WNR Little River Pub via Barrys Bay anyone???????



Yes to Little River Pub via Barrys Bay.

[Transalper]

...I'll be along if I can figure out a way to stick mirrors on my poor bike.
Will fabric tape or 100 mile an hour tape work?

[Oakie]

I always heard purple gave you the best midrange.

Yes, but you are not allowed to use purple anything on a bike unless you are a homosexual. (Insert appropriate Honda joke here >>> ______ )

[Box of riddles]

Will fabric tape or 100 mile an hour tape work?

Nope, no fairings to stick it too, I broke pretty much all the fairing.
Just gonna buy some barends untill I can get some new fairings from overseas since I need to be able to get to work somehow >__>"

[maxf]

On another topic, I'm thinking about lunch in Reefton via Lewis on either the 24th if weather look ok (or 31st as a backup date) this month. They be Saturdays. Anyone interested in a cruise there without breaking any speed limits ?
Might start a new thread closer to the day. Thinking it would be 8:30am depart from the Peg for lunch about mid day at the Bakery/Cafe first on the left.

Let me know too; the Road Whale could do with a run (& I've never gotten to the WC on it... only time trying the Buller it was solid rain AND a cycle tour so I took the omens handed to me :( )

[gloplg]

Everyones old on the WNR :killingme
Or maybe it's just my perspective, haha.

Now you cheeky young sprout, don't you know the truth hurts.

[Subike]

there are old riders
there are fast riders
there are NO old fast riders
which group do you want to belong to again?

[Oakie]

there are old riders
there are fast riders
there are NO old fast riders
which group do you want to belong to again?

I guess I'm proof. Old and slow. Haven't had an off in 30 years though. (Least bins wins?)

[Gareth123]

Anyone up for a ride tomorrow? I haven't been out in a while so I've got a bit of cabin fever.

[gloplg]

there are NO old fast riders

Burt Munro????????

Briefly back on my soapbox, what do our newer riders want, expect, need that causes them to join WNR?? Come on you newbies, take a risk and tell us.

[Box of riddles]

there are old riders
there are fast riders
there are NO old fast riders
which group do you want to belong to again?

The young and stupid group you forgot to mention.

On a side note, I won't be around for a while, most of my electrics are rooted.

[FJRider]

Burt Munro????????



As I recall ... the only racetracks he frequented ... were long straight ones.

Just big gonads to hang on ... rather than any skill at those speeds ...

[Oakie]

As I recall ... the only racetracks he frequented ... were long straight ones.

Just big gonads to hang on ... rather than any skill at those speeds ...

Ooh no. He also played on the oval speedway tracks where he was apparantly a danger to himself and others.

[Jen]

Now play nice kids and I might even drag the Bandit out with you folk this Wednesday. I'm at a loose end with Mrs Oakie away next week so if work and weather play ball I just might come along. Any other old farts (i.e. over 40) still attending regularly?

I"m a new over 40 (not so much of the old!) rider trying to become a regular WNR.:banana: Weather permitting will see you Wednesday




Nope, no fairings to stick it too, I broke pretty much all the fairing.
Just gonna buy some barends untill I can get some new fairings from overseas since I need to be able to get to work somehow >__>"

Hey Dan, just real glad you didn't get seriously hurt!

As for earlier comment, Why do we need to blame or have expectations of others?

Some of our riders appear to think that the L plate stands for LEADER!!!! For heavens sake if you are an experienced rider, in a sub-group, being led by an inexperienced rider, go to the front of the group.
I'm sorry to bring it up again but when 6-7 people are riding and splits into two groups, why leave three newb's in the back group. Fair comment to have an experienced rider lead but we didn't have one! It took over 20 minutes for you guys to realise we weren't behind ya and come back looking for us. So we should all be thankful he did get up...and once pulled the broken bits off and got it started and like the man child he is, got back on and rode it home! :2thumbsup

[Box of riddles]

Hey Dan, just real glad you didn't get seriously hurt!

Yeah, so am I. the only part thats seriously hurting is my wallet now.

[FJRider]

The young and stupid group you forgot to mention.

ALL of the above mentioned groups have their periods of stupidity ... :scratch:

[Subike]

ALL of the above mentioned groups have their periods of stupidity ... :scratch:

look who is calling the kettle black trev

[FJRider]

look who is calling the kettle black trev

The only group I haven't been in is the fast group. What I haven't experienced ... I have witnessed.
I have had my periods (plural) of stupidity ... no doubt about that. Hindsight will often decree, what degree of stupidity is involved. (or our peer's)

[Gareth123]

So guys, I'll be at bk tomorrow at 12. I'm gonna go for a ride to akaroa if anyone is interested in coming along.

[kerryhare]

Saddens me that on this Wednesday Night Ride, a ride that was meant to help learners pick up some knowledge, that another rider appears to have run out of road yet again.
What's happening and why ??


On another topic, I'm thinking about lunch in Reefton via Lewis on either the 24th if weather look ok (or 31st as a backup date) this month. They be Saturdays. Anyone interested in a cruise there without breaking any speed limits ?

Might start a new thread closer to the day.
Thinking it would be 8:30am depart from the Peg for lunch about mid day at the Bakery/Cafe first on the left.

I would be keen for a ride to reefton. i love the lewis pass. I think you have a perfectly valid point about the wed night ride. I don't go on them anymore neither does JM.

[Gareth123]

On a side note, I won't be around for a while, most of my electrics are rooted.

Whats up with your electrics? I've just finished tracking down a fault on my KLR. I hate electrics!

[Box of riddles]

Whats up with your electrics? I've just finished tracking down a fault on my KLR. I hate electrics!

indicators stoplights and ignition/dash lights dont work. i refuse to work with electricity, damn stuff is demon juice.

[neels]

indicators stoplights and ignition/dash lights dont work. i refuse to work with electricity, damn stuff is demon juice.
With all of the above not working, it sounds like a blown fuse. You might have a squashed wire somewhere as a result of your off road adventures which has killed it.

If you need someone who's not scared of lectric stuff to have a look give me a yell.

[Box of riddles]

i've already checked the fuses, making an insurance claim on it since im pretty much over my excess with new fairings + helmet. thanks for the offer though. Does anyone have any experience with icon helmets? i'm looking at bringing an airframe in.

[FJRider]

indicators stoplights and ignition/dash lights dont work. i refuse to work with electricity, damn stuff is demon juice.

Have you checked the bulbs ... ???

[Jen]

:sunny:So Wednesday is looking like an awesome day, 22 degrees and moderate winds...can't beat that...where we off to?

[Transalper]

:sunny:So Wednesday is looking like an awesome day, 22 degrees and moderate winds...can't beat that...where we off to?

....Next WNR Little River Pub via Barrys Bay anyone???????
Seems to be the go.
See ya all there.:soon:

[darkwolf]

Burt Munro????????

Briefly back on my soapbox, what do our newer riders want, expect, need that causes them to join WNR?? Come on you newbies, take a risk and tell us.

Only thing that has been stopping me is that I've been told to keep clear of group rides until I am comfortable at my own speed. Now I'm comfortable at my own speed, I never seem to have a spare tank of fuel on a Wednesday night - the road seems to drink it on a Saturday and Sunday - one weekend I'll stay home and have fuel for the mid week.

[Gareth123]

Only thing that has been stopping me is that I've been told to keep clear of group rides until I am comfortable at my own speed. Now I'm comfortable at my own speed, I never seem to have a spare tank of fuel on a Wednesday night - the road seems to drink it on a Saturday and Sunday - one weekend I'll stay home and have fuel for the mid week.

Come along for a ride this Sunday. Not sure where we're going but it's bound to be a good trip. If the weather is nice.

[darkwolf]

Come along for a ride this Sunday. Not sure where we're going but it's bound to be a good trip. If the weather is nice.

No no. This weekend I have a decent excuse. Wife and I are moving into our first home this weekend. The fact that I've booked an advanced rider course with Mainland Motorcycle School for the evening after moving is likely to cause enough drama :P

[Gareth123]

No no. This weekend I have a decent excuse. Wife and I are moving into our first home this weekend. The fact that I've booked an advanced rider course with Mainland Motorcycle School for the evening after moving is likely to cause enough drama :P

Really? Congratulations! That's awesome! Let me know if you need help shifting your bike, I promise not to take it too far off the direct route :laugh:

[Box of riddles]

Have you checked the bulbs ... ???
yeah mate, they work i just think its a buggered wire somewhere.

[Gareth123]

yeah mate, they work i just think its a buggered wire somewhere.

Are all your connections good? Perhaps a connection block has come apart slightly and it just looks connected.

[Box of riddles]

i wouldnt have a clue where to find half of them haha, going into trevor peirce today to see if they can assess it

[gloplg]

Ok so my WNR will be to Little River Pub.

BK, Dyers Pass, Governors Bay, Gebbies Pass, Akaroa Hiway. If the weather and daylight is still good I may choose to go over to Barrys Bay and back to the pub.

Anyone who wishes to may come along.

Please remember.

It is the responsibility of each and every rider to ride safely and within their abilities.

Neither myself, nor any other participant is responsible for another rider's actions. Each rider is responsible for their own riding.

[Spuds1234]

Neither myself, nor any other participant is responsible for another rider's actions. Each rider is responsible for their own riding.

So if you fall off, your on your own!

Na Im just kidding, I dont actually know anyone that would leave a downed rider to fend for themselves.

[Jen]

Ok so my WNR will be to Little River Pub.

BK, Dyers Pass, Governors Bay, Gebbies Pass, Akaroa Hiway. If the weather and daylight is still good I may choose to go over to Barrys Bay and back to the pub.

Anyone who wishes to may come along.

Please remember.

It is the responsibility of each and every rider to ride safely and within their abilities.

Neither myself, nor any other participant is responsible for another rider's actions. Each rider is responsible for their own riding.


See you at BK!

[gloplg]

So if you fall off, your on your own!

Na Im just kidding, I dont actually know anyone that would leave a downed rider to fend for themselves.

The last two lines of my earlier post are part of every WNR first post since 2008.

[Spuds1234]

The last two lines of my earlier post are part of every WNR first post since 2008.

Your right your signature never changes :laugh:

I'll stop talking now :shutup:

[gloplg]

Your right your signature never changes :laugh:

I'll stop talking now :shutup:

Please don't stop talking Alex, you are one of the few who still talks to me.:violin::violin::crybaby::crybaby:

[cruza]

Prob wait for you guys at the bottom of dyers rd tonite then for pootle round the bays. hopefully a few more rides beofre daylight saving if the fickle weather gods are nice.....:sunny:

[Retroqueen]

We actually have weather I'd like to ride in :-)

[cruza]

We actually have weather I'd like to ride in :-)

....and its on a wed too!

[Subike]

bloody amazing
Now I have no excuse for not ATTENDING
BK, I be there

[Retroqueen]

That was a fun way to spend a Wednesday night. Good to catch up folks and nice to meet some of the new ones faces.
Lovely riding thanks to all.

[Subike]

Very nice ride this evening,
Good to meet new faces and catch up with other I have not seen for a while.
Still happy with the performance of my little KeeWay, 1750km, and purring along nicely.
Have yet to have any of the Chinese "it will fall apart" problems yet.
Nothing has become loose either, not even the so called elastic chain.
Jen, your friend with the trike sure knows how to ride it well, impressed.
Till next time.

[Jen]

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Great ride tonight! Biggest turn out I"ve seen since I started riding with you all. Nice to meet people I've not seen before :woohoo:

[Gareth123]

Weathers looking ok for Sunday. Anyone interested? Perhaps a ride out to the hurunui hotel and back via Greta Valley? Or maybe a ride out to cust to try some of their supposedly excellent pies?

[Shoshoni]

Weathers looking ok for Sunday. Anyone interested? Perhaps a ride out to the hurunui hotel and back via Greta Valley? Or maybe a ride out to cust to try some of their supposedly excellent pies?

I would like to tag along for Sunday to Hurunui Hotel & back via Greta Valley long as the weather behaves.

[Transalper]

I would like to tag along for Sunday to Hurunui Hotel & back via Greta Valley long as the weather behaves.

I might probably be in.... though gravel may call me as an alternative from the Hurunui to Ethelton and maybe Motanau after we've had our Hurunui stop.
Please confirm meeting and departure times and place.

[Gareth123]

I might probably be in.... though gravel may call me as an alternative from the Hurunui to Ethelton and maybe Motanau after we've had our Hurunui stop.
Please confirm meeting and departure times and place.

Well since we are heading north, how about the peg at 11 for 1130 departure?

[Gareth123]

Just a thought, would anyone be interested in a ride up to Arthurs Pass one Sunday afternoon?

I know, lots of straight roads to get to some corners, but it would still be a good ride.

[brp]

Just a thought, would anyone be interested in a ride up to Arthurs Pass one Sunday afternoon?

I know, lots of straight roads to get to some corners, but it would still be a good ride.

Asked same thing week or two ago, if go up old west coast road more corners.

When get extra needed clutch plate in be keen

[Peeteey]

Where ever you guys go, have fun!
Am up in Takaka now, popped in to see "hey wait for me" in Nelson, was nice to see him.

I have discovered a new favourite road I must one day ride. It is called the entire west coast, especially, if it can be included in that, the Motueka valley bit. So very jealous watching all the bikes hooning past!

See you all in a few Weeks ...

[Shoshoni]

Was a nice day for a ride could have done without all that wind, had to stop at Amberly to readjust earphones from all the slop the trucks were creating.

[Transalper]

Yep all good.
Pretty hot and usual wind irritation.
No problem really as I might complain more if it had been too cold and wet.


Now posted new thread for Lunch in Reefton next Saturday (the 24th)... here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/147889-Reefton-for-Lunch-24th-March-2012?p=1130283877#post1130283877).

[maxf]

Nice ride - sorry I piked off at Waikari on the return, feeling zonked and proved so by the nana-nap when I got back... good to see you all, certainly couldn't fault the weather (apart from the wind!)

[Gareth123]

Nice ride - sorry I piked off at Waikari on the return, feeling zonked and proved so by the nana-nap when I got back... good to see you all, certainly couldn't fault the weather (apart from the wind!)

Your not the only one to have had a nana nap when you got home. I fell asleep on the couch with the motor sport on:yawn:

[Flip]

Where ever you guys go, have fun!
Am up in Takaka now, popped in to see "hey wait for me" in Nelson, was nice to see him.

I have discovered a new favourite road I must one day ride. It is called the entire west coast, especially, if it can be included in that, the Motueka valley bit. So very jealous watching all the bikes hooning past!

See you all in a few Weeks ...

Anytime you have a few days off give me a call.

[leopardskin]

akaroa fush n chups shop gutted by fire! why would we even go to akaroa without that! another destination ruined

[cruza]

akaroa fush n chups shop gutted by fire! why would we even go to akaroa without that! another destination ruined

pretty intense fire watching news this morning. Billy hayes also suffered damage as well .

[SVboy]

I blame the bakery! Ever since the pies started coming in cellophane and the coffee in paper cups we have gone to bullys or the fish and chips-obviously he has been forced into drastic actions!:eek5:

[gloplg]

akaroa fush n chups shop gutted by fire! why would we even go to akaroa without that! another destination ruined

Bugger. Where else has GF fish and chips?????

And the best part of the road ends at Barrys Bay.

[onearmedbandit]

akaroa fush n chups shop gutted by fire! why would we even go to akaroa without that! another destination ruined

What? Motorcycling isn't about the destination. I ride to Aka regularly enough and I haven't eaten there for years. Enjoy the ride that Akaroa offers, not the F&C's.

[Fast Eddie]

why would we even go to akaroa without that! another destination ruined

:whistle: haha, how do you thumbs down?

I didnt go to akaroa to eat.. I ride there and ride back. sweet roads.

[cruza]

I blame the bakery! Ever since the pies started coming in cellophane and the coffee in paper cups we have gone to bullys or the fish and chips-obviously he has been forced into drastic actions!:eek5:

LOL. Was good blat ova hill today aye svboy.....burnt out fish n chip shop , cruise ship tourists and some sunshine.......hilltop stop was pretty good as well . Rides are what ya make them

[leopardskin]

well yes there is a corner or 2 or 3- there is that i suppose lol - you guys obviously won't miss the best fish n chips in the world! (IMO)

[SVboy]

LOL. Was good blat ova hill today aye svboy.....burnt out fish n chip shop , cruise ship tourists and some sunshine.......hilltop stop was pretty good as well . Rides are what ya make them

Totally agree cruza! Its all about the trip! Hilltop seems ok-could become our designated rider coffee break stop!:woohoo:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Ok possibility that I maybe along tonight :shit:, riding pillion, so where we going tonight?

[gloplg]

Ok possibility that I maybe along tonight :shit:, riding pillion, so where we going tonight?

I'm sacrificing myself to work tonight. You guys have a good ride and take the camera and post some pics please KP.

[KiwiPhoenix]

I'm sacrificing myself to work tonight. You guys have a good ride and take the camera and post some pics please KP.

So that's why the weather is nice!!

[darkwolf]

I might be coming along. Though that is dependent on my battery situation, had a problem with an electrical leak overnight (yep said what I meant) so I think my battery could be drained out and therefore might need a good charge. Will see when I leave work.

[Mushu]

I'll try make it again too.

My tail tidy came today so I'm just leaving work now to go put it on, but when I'm done I'll go to BK for a feed so if you still there I'll tag along

Do we know where we are going this week yet?

[gloplg]

OK so where did you go??? Anyone get any pics???

[Spuds1234]

8 souls braved the carpark and 7 headed over Dyers and Gebbies to Taitap I believe.

I went home because the shoulder isn't quite up to that kinda riding yet. Its better but not bike fit, also sharp bumps cause a bit of discomfort lol.

[2DriveSafe]

Slightly off topic ( may not be for some ) but Hi all.

we have 1 place left on our Apex course( advanced riding skills) for this saturday 9.30am start in Rangiora Check the website (http://www.2drivesafe.com/html/mb/training.html) out for more info. first come first served ( we do have other dates available too)

Cost is only $50 for a full day of training - ACC subsidise the rest, (lunch and refreshments provided).

we cover theory, slow riding and braking then on road overtaking, cornering and hazard perception - cover about 250k's

D
2 Drive Safe
0508 863 748

[KiwiPhoenix]

Gloplg, good to see you last night!! So what happened to the weather, it's supposed to be nice when you are working!!!

Myself and my rider went to Little River, fair bit of wind but no rain until the way back, hit Halswell and it was very wet! Had a great time last night despite the rain.

Great to see you all and a few new faces as well!

[Mully Clown]

My glasses must've been covered in grease or something. Could barely see a thing until I hobbled myself to a gas station with tissues I could clean them with.

Note to self: Investigate contacts, carry toilet paper.

[gloplg]

Sorry for the delay, the video from last week is up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kCXR8evbdg

[gloplg]

Here are some pics from last week.

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Hey Petra I like your new bike and the dance moves at Little River looked great too.:innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent:

[Transalper]

Won't be along tonight... saving $ for Saturdays coaster.

Also heard a nasty rumour Daylight savings ends this Sunday. :bye:

[KiwiPhoenix]

I'll be along in the car tonight. Looking forward to catching up with you all!

[Peeteey]

Am out tonight too, just got home and am wiped out! The couch has never looked so good!

Have fun you lot ...

[Peeteey]

Won't be along tonight... saving $ for Saturdays coaster.

Also heard a nasty rumour Daylight savings ends this Sunday. :bye:

Where are you off to?

[Transalper]

Where are you off to?

It's a day run to Reefton for lunch (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/147889-Reefton-for-lunch-24-March-2012?p=1130283877#post1130283877) and back.

[KiwiPhoenix]

3 of us turned up, then we all went home :facepalm:

Have a great trip on Sat if you are going to Reefton, stay safe guys!

[gloplg]

Also heard a nasty rumour Daylight savings ends this Sunday. :bye:

Bugger!!!!!!!!!!! I thought we had one more week. Stuff it all!!!!

Sunday rides anyone???

You guys heading away this weekend travel safely and have a good time.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Bike will be back on the road middle of April so I will be joining you then, :Punk: till then need to get the knee working properly!

[gloplg]

Bike will be back on the road middle of April so I will be joining you then, :Punk: till then need to get the knee working properly!

Great that's at least one coming:scooter::scooter::scooter:

[Buyasta]

Great that's at least one coming:scooter::scooter::scooter:
I'll also be along regularly once I've got a working bike, fingers crossed it won't be too long now, just waiting for Ian to have time to come pick it up and get it back into WoF-able condition.

[gloplg]

I'll also be along regularly once I've got a working bike, fingers crossed it won't be too long now, just waiting for Ian to have time to come pick it up and get it back into WoF-able condition.

Great, will be good to see you riding again:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[Gareth123]

I'll also be along regularly once I've got a working bike, fingers crossed it won't be too long now, just waiting for Ian to have time to come pick it up and get it back into WoF-able condition.

What do you need to do to get a warrant?

I might not be able to ride sundays this winter. My hours may be changing.

[Buyasta]

What do you need to do to get a warrant?

Won't know everything till Ian's had a look, but AFAIK just some new front pads, rear wheel bearings, fork seals, and possibly a bit of work on the muffler mounting, along with the new battery I got for it but won't bother fitting till I can actually ride it.

[willytheekid]

In town tomorrow morning...might catch up to say hi before you all shoot off.(can't go for a big ride tho...new bike is just having a shake down run)
You lot at BK 11ish as usual?

[willytheekid]

Hmmm, so ride today huh:no:

Oh well, im gonna pop around to lonerangers to check out his bobber build then.

[Peeteey]

Hmmm, so ride today huh:no:

Oh well, im gonna pop around to lonerangers to check out his bobber build then.

I was playing at the end of Colombo street watching so many bikers heading up, or coming back down, the hill. Was rather jealous ...

Tell me about this Bobber build, I rather fancy a nice home made bobber

[Buyasta]

Tell me about this Bobber build, I rather fancy a nice home made bobber

He's got a thread up about it here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/142101-Bobber-build).

[Peeteey]

He's got a thread up about it here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/142101-Bobber-build).

Good man, cheers!

[gloplg]

Anyone interested in a ride this Sunday???

[Peeteey]

Anyone interested in a ride this Sunday???

Could be tempted, depends on what I get up to on Sat (maybe Methven, maybe rellies) and what the visiting rellies feel like on Sun.
Where were you thinking?

[willytheekid]

Anyone interested in a ride this Sunday???

Nup!...Im still sulking over LAST Sunday! :oi-grr:

http://rhymeeverytime.com/Images/sulking%20cat.jpg

[darkwolf]

I'm keen - heading to Methven on Saturday - should do some work on the house this weekend being a long one and all - but if I take two days biking, I've still got two days for the house... Any suggestions for where to go?

[gloplg]

Nup!...Im still sulking over LAST Sunday! :oi-grr:

http://rhymeeverytime.com/Images/sulking%20cat.jpg

You look real good when photographed properly WTK:facepalm::facepalm::innocent::innocent:

[Subike]

Won't know everything till Ian's had a look, but AFAIK just some new front pads, rear wheel bearings, fork seals, and possibly a bit of work on the muffler mounting, along with the new battery I got for it but won't bother fitting till I can actually ride it.

How many qudzillion miles has it done to need all that work,?
God its not even a old bike?
I would be sorely dissapointed to have to do that much to a ride all at the same time considering its age
What sort of maintenance have you done since owning it?

[Buyasta]

How many qudzillion miles has it done to need all that work,?
God its not even a old bike?
I would be sorely dissapointed to have to do that much to a ride all at the same time considering its age
What sort of maintenance have you done since owning it?

It may not actually need all of that, I found the folks who claimed it needed all that work eminently untrustworthy, which is why I was saying I don't know what it needs till Ian has taken a look. It'll definitely be needing the new pads, as Ian let me know when he serviced it about 1500-2000km ago just after buying it that they were running low, but aside from the battery I've got no idea whether the rest is true, or an unscrupulous mechanic trying to drum up some more work.

From memory it's got about 23000km on the clock, and as far as maintenance goes, I've had it serviced a couple of times, had new tyres, sprockets and chain fitted, and other than that just me doing routine stuff like oiling the chain, checking pressures, and replacing a blown bulb.

[Peeteey]

Anyone heading down to Methven tomorrow? Keen on riding down but don't wanna go on my own :crybaby:

[Shadowjack]

Anyone heading down to Methven tomorrow? Keen on riding down but don't wanna go on my own :crybaby:
Hey P, Check this:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/148289-Easter-Saturday-Methven-Mountain-thunder-street-racing/page2

I'll be going, but probably leaving a little later than these fellas.

[Peeteey]

Hey P, Check this:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/148289-Easter-Saturday-Methven-Mountain-thunder-street-racing/page2

I'll be going, but probably leaving a little later than these fellas.

Later sounds good, what time you thinking?

[Shadowjack]

Leaving home about 09:30 hrs - so at the Yaldhurst Pub about 09:45. Or thereabouts.

[Peeteey]

Leaving home about 09:30 hrs - so at the Yaldhurst Pub about 09:45. Or thereabouts.

Cool, doing the same route?

[Subike]

sounds like you fellas might be a more relaxed ride to go with,
more interested in the ride than the time to get there,
Not sayin there is anything wrong with the other peoples riding,
just you guys are more into a laid back relaxed pace.
More suited to me and my little pony

[Shadowjack]

Cool, doing the same route?

Yup, Darfield-Windwhistle-Rakaia Gorge-Methven.
Just a nice sight-seeing trip out and back.
Weather forecast is OK.:woohoo:
I will be leaving the races about 15:30 hrs to do some whanau-visiting on the way home.

[Peeteey]

Yup, Darfield-Windwhistle-Rakaia Gorge-Methven.
Just a nice sight-seeing trip out and back.
Weather forecast is OK.:woohoo:
I will be leaving the races about 15:30 hrs to do some whanau-visiting on the way home.

Excellent, so the Yaldhurst pub is the one at the end of Yaldhurst road close to the roundabout where it turns into West Coast Road?

This one
http://g.co/maps/frzf2

Or This one
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Main+West+Coast+Road,%208042%20Yaldhurst,%2 0NZ&venue=The%20Yaldhurst%20Hotel

[Shadowjack]

Excellent, so the Yaldhurst pub is the one at the end of Yaldhurst road close to the roundabout where it turns into West Coast Road? This one
http://g.co/maps/frzf2

Yes, in the car-park next to the pub. See you there.

[Peeteey]

Yes, in the car-park next to the pub. See you there.

Excellent! Cheers!

[gloplg]

Yes, in the car-park next to the pub. See you there.

You guys have a good ride and enjoy the (racing???????). You lot are out of bed too early for me.:yes::yes::eek5:

[Buyasta]

Excellent! Cheers!

I think I might also tag along in the car, I'm keen to check out the racing, and it'll be good to catch up again, been too long!

[Peeteey]

Many thanks to Shadowjack, Buyasta and Subike for the company and lovely to bump into Retroqueen and also Timg who was racing.
Some said that was also Onearmedbandit racing?

Excellent day and great weather! After a beaut day with you lot I went to see a local friend and didn't end up riding home 'till about 9.30 under a full moon with the roads more or less to meself! Stunning ...
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[Peeteey]

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[gloplg]

Nice pics Peeteey. What was the make of bike 4th pic in the second lot of pics please??????

[Peeteey]

Nice pics Peeteey. What was the make of bike 4th pic in the second lot of pics please??????

The old black one up close? AJS I think ... Were plenty of lovely machines there, one Indian really caught my eye/ear ...
Video to come if I can get around to it.

[Triplenut]

Nice pics Peeteey. What was the make of bike 4th pic in the second lot of pics please??????

It was.. is a Dunel(sp?), had to ask myself in the pits. Cool bike

[brp]

"Glowie yah still keen to upload that vid of uncle Flip in the Elan round Ruapuna ?"

[gloplg]

The old black one up close? AJS I think ... Were plenty of lovely machines there, one Indian really caught my eye/ear ...
Video to come if I can get around to it.


It was.. is a Dunel(sp?), had to ask myself in the pits. Cool bike

Thanks guys I appreciate.

My first thoughts were AJS or something similar, ............. but Dunel???????????? I sense a google coming up.

[gloplg]

"Glowie yah still keen to upload that vid of uncle Flip in the Elan round Ruapuna ?"

Yes I am however I will have to check with Flip first. Thanks for the reminder!!!!

[Subike]

Yes I am however I will have to check with Flip first. Thanks for the reminder!!!!

being on a closed road, and a public race circuit Glow,
anybody can and do take vids of vehicles racing on it,
Posting does not need consent

[gloplg]

being on a closed road, and a public race circuit Glow,
anybody can and do take vids of vehicles racing on it,
Posting does not need consent

Thanks SB I hear what you are saying. Happens I post the vid you will see my reasons.

[brp]

"Popcorn a popping"

[Peeteey]

Thanks guys I appreciate.

My first thoughts were AJS or something similar, ............. but Dunel???????????? I sense a google coming up.

Buyasta mentioned he heard the announcer say something about a modified AJS, something like it had been made into a 1000cc twin or something, I was wondering if that bike was it.

[ellipsis]

.....its a Dunelt ,its French and it belongs to Peter Jones...its quick and smooth...

[Mully Clown]

Some said that was also Onearmedbandit racing?


That was Nigel Curtis on motard #35. Different onearmedbandit but still a one armed bandit on a bike.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/44512-One-handed-super-motard-fell

[Buyasta]

Buyasta mentioned he heard the announcer say something about a modified AJS, something like it had been made into a 1000cc twin or something, I was wondering if that bike was it.

Nah, I was talking about the NSR250 with a 650 thumper in it, not a modified AJS.


That was Nigel Curtis on motard #35. Different onearmedbandit but still a one armed bandit on a bike.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/44512-One-handed-super-motard-fell

Ah, I was wondering about that - at one point the announcer did call him "the one armed bandit" and the KTM with the thumb clutch in the pits had bandit racing decals on it, just wasn't entirely sure if it was onearmedbandit from KB or not.

[Peeteey]

:woohoo:

Here's the vid I knocked up of the racing in Methven on Saturday. Bloody awesome day!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROyAapUZCXA

:woohoo:

[Buyasta]

:woohoo:

Here's the vid I knocked up of the racing in Methven on Saturday. Bloody awesome day!


:woohoo:

Nice one Peeteey, I like the way you cut together bits of the different races for each class to make it look like you had multiple cameras running, looked downright semi-professional, although if I were you I'd fire the cameraman for recording too much of his own laughter. :p

[Peeteey]

Nice one Peeteey, I like the way you cut together bits of the different races for each class to make it look like you had multiple cameras running, looked downright semi-professional, although if I were you I'd fire the cameraman for recording too much of his own laughter. :p

Ha ha, thanks man. Have you seen the clip from Ashburton TV? For the first half of the video I was wondering who the hell had stolen my files!

http://www.ashburtontv.co.nz/cms/home/viewvideo/539/latest-videos/methven-mountain-thunder-street-racing-2012.html

[gloplg]

Good vid Peeteey:yes::yes:

[brp]

Nice one Peeteey, I like the way you cut together bits of the different races for each class to make it look like you had multiple cameras running, looked downright semi-professional, although if I were you I'd fire the cameraman for recording too much of his own laughter. :p

Yeah he come along way from looking like an external version of C-3PO's internal wiring - use to be wires, camera's, batteries for Africa :D

Hit them up for royalties Peeteey, blatant theft ! They look to be doing alright with some of the big boys advertising with them.

Or is any footage "Open Slander" that is uploaded to Youtube etc, comes under the GPL Open Source Licence ?


Ex Neighbour (Just an empty section now) shot footage of his Mrs running out of their bedroom in her PJ's during an earthquake and another of his chicken in the backyard hi-tailing it during another Shakedown - uploaded it to youtube and it ended up on the movie When A City Sleeps without permission, might put in for royalties too since its my "Stable" over the fence :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aZJUxqmysg

[Transalper]

I've taken to watermarking the entire length of my video uploads now days... just in case.

[Peeteey]

Yeah he come along way from looking like an external version of C-3PO's internal wiring - use to be wires, camera's, batteries for Africa :D

Hit them up for royalties Peeteey, blatant theft ! They look to be doing alright with some of the big boys advertising with them.

Or is any footage "Open Slander" that is uploaded to Youtube etc, comes under the GPL Open Source Licence ?


Ex Neighbour (Just an empty section now) shot footage of his Mrs running out of their bedroom in her PJ's during an earthquake and another of his chicken in the backyard hi-tailing it during another Shakedown - uploaded it to youtube and it ended up on the movie When A City Sleeps without permission, might put in for royalties too since its my "Stable" over the fence :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aZJUxqmysg

Ha ha!
now what's wrong with C3PO's wiring? The only reason I haven't made more of those vids recently is that bike is off the road with, funnily enough, electrical issues! :D :lol:
And Africa NEEDS batteries, think of the children!

I was just kidding about them using my footage. Just some of the shots are very similar so I must have been standing right on top of their cameraman in several places without knowing it.
I've already been chatting to someone else who also had similar shots on YouTube, turns out he's in my vid for a fair bit as he was standing right next to me on the day!

Anyhoo, an now saving for a bucket bike of some kind ... :D

[brp]

I've taken to watermarking the entire length of my video uploads now days... just in case.

Yeah good way to stop a leech



I could see you on a KX500/CR500 motard Peeteey :Punk:

Went down to the inaugural and there were motard guys pulling wheelies 3/4 of the straight, dude on a CR 500 going real well.

Bucket racing looks good - low key way of entering into the racing buzz :niceone:

[Peeteey]

Yeah good way to stop a leech



I could see you on a KX500/CR500 motard Peeteey :Punk:

Went down to the inaugural and there were motard guys pulling wheelies 3/4 of the straight, dude on a CR 500 going real well.

Bucket racing looks good - low key way of entering into the racing buzz :niceone:

The CR 500 is one of my dream bikes but I could never race against those motard guys, they're way too crazy for me!
Buckets on the other hand, that's something am looking into :yes:

[Freespaceage]

The CR 500 is one of my dream bikes but I could never race against those motard guys, they're way too crazy for me!
Buckets on the other hand, that's something am looking into :yes:

Let me know how you go on the bucket - I've been thinking about it for a while, just haven't done anything about it.................

[SVboy]

The CR 500 is one of my dream bikes but I could never race against those motard guys, they're way too crazy for me!
Buckets on the other hand, that's something am looking into :yes:

Come join us on the dark side! BUCKET fun is awesome!

[brp]

Go for it Peeteey !

Whats the best bike for bucket racing ? FXR seems popular.

Anyone got a link to the rules and regulations to set one up please ?


Cheers

[Peeteey]

Go for it Peeteey !

Whats the best bike for bucket racing ? FXR seems popular.

Anyone got a link to the rules and regulations to set one up please ?


Cheers

I imagine the FXR is popular 'cause it seems quite fast and is the maximum CC allowed too.

There's one on TM for $1200 at the mo, that's $1199 more than I've got at the mo :D

Check this page out:

http://www.bucketracing.co.nz/rules.php?pg=rules

It has the rules there but it links to a PDF that seems to have moved. You can find it here:

http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/download/Chapter_24_Miniature_Road_Racing.pdf

[brp]

There's one on TM for $1200 at the mo, that's $1199 more than I've got at the mo :D

:D yeah seems to be the way of the world, least ya wont be saving for years with the entry level :scooter:

Liked the guy on the vid saying it was the premium class at the mo cause of the amount of enteries

Cheers for the links

[ellipsis]

..just come out and talk..you need a little more than just a bike...minimum requirements of attire, leathers, gloves, back-brace, regulation helmet and it does also mean buying day licences, around $20-25 bucks and entry to a race meeting which is $60.00 at our meetings,(CAMS) www.cams-racing.org.nz
...it isn't that much of an obstacle really, after your first, 'good fun', race, the rules of life change...a bit like a young fellas first fuck...you spend the rest of your life chasing that unobtainable feeling...after that you either get a two stroke bent or some other affliction...get your arse out to a club day at Ruapuna...there are bikes about that you could get a ride on...

[brp]

a bit like a young fellas first fuck :D

"Cheers for the heads up"

[Transalper]

Taking the dirt bikes (that's the non reged/wofed dedicated off road bikes this time) up the Waimak North bank Saturday morning. Parking the transport at/near the MX Track carpark area then going up stream toward the gorge hopefully at least as far as the little terrace track loops.
Will be a slow ride with dirt novices.
Just thought I'd put it out there in case other dirt bike owners here were interested. Probably unloading about 10:15am.

[Peeteey]

Taking the dirt bikes (that's the non reged/wofed dedicated off road bikes this time) up the Waimak North bank Saturday morning. Parking the transport at/near the MX Track carpark area then going up stream toward the gorge hopefully at least as far as the little terrace track loops.
Will be a slow ride with dirt novices.
Just thought I'd put it out there in case other dirt bike owners here were interested. Probably unloading about 10:15am.

Wish I could make it, have fun. You takin the camera?

[Mushu]

I know WNR is over and only runs during daylight saving but the weather looks pretty good for tomorrow and I have been suggesting to others that we can meet for a ride around the hills.

I figure the best way to achieve this would just be to post here and work it like a normal WNR (weather permitting) meet at BK moorehouse but head off a bit earlier at about 5:30 to try beat the dark

From there the plan is to head up columbo st to dyres pass, follow the below route round to the weatsheaf (if we need to have a stop, maybe a quick beer) and then continue on this route: http://quikmaps.com/show/201199

after I complete the loop I often go around again, depending on traffic and road conditions

I'm not expecting many to turn up but more than a couple we may have to split into groups to help negotiate the traffic

Also given my level of experience I would like it if anyone with a few years riding under their belt could show up and act as a TEC if anyone other than me goes on this ride

[Asher]

I would be keen, but not at 6:30.
Too dark or sun in your eyes


5:30 sounds way better!

[Asher]

I just noticed next Wednesday is ANZAC day, anyone up for a ride to Arthur Pass or somewhere?

[Hawk]

I just noticed next Wednesday is ANZAC day, anyone up for a ride to Arthur Pass or somewhere?

Anzac day is also Ulysses St John fund raiser ride

[Peeteey]

I just noticed next Wednesday is ANZAC day, anyone up for a ride to Arthur Pass or somewhere?


Anzac day is also Ulysses St John fund raiser ride

I'd be keen for either or both. When and where does the Ulysses ride go? Ah, found it:

http://www.ulysses.org.nz/hpimages/ad-march-ulyssian.jpg

Maybe instead of Arthurs Pass, we do the St. John ride then head over to Akas?

[Peeteey]

I know WNR is over and only runs during daylight saving but the weather looks pretty good for tomorrow and I have been suggesting to others that we can meet for a ride around the hills.

I figure the best way to achieve this would just be to post here and work it like a normal WNR (weather permitting) meet at BK moorehouse but head off a bit earlier at about 5:30 to try beat the dark

so this is for tomorrow (well, later today really, Wed)? That sound like fun tho met service reckons it's gonna rain. If it doesn't rain, I'm keen!

[Mushu]

so this is for tomorrow (well, later today really, Wed)? That sound like fun tho met service reckons it's gonna rain. If it doesn't rain, I'm keen!

I'm getting conflicting weather reports, MET service is the more reliable and says rain, but I think I'll just keep an eye on it and see how it turns out.

[Gareth123]

I'd be keen for either or both. When and where does the Ulysses ride go? Ah, found it:
Maybe instead of Arthurs Pass, we do the St. John ride then head over to Akas?

I'd be up for Ulysses ride.

Also, somewhere in this thread, there is a young fella with a CBR 250 with movie star? sign writing on it(if im wrong there, I'm damned sure the bike was blue). Is he still thinking/looking to sell it? I have a friend that wants a CBR.

[Box of riddles]

I'd be up for Ulysses ride.

Also, somewhere in this thread, there is a young fella with a CBR 250 with movie star? sign writing on it(if im wrong there, I'm damned sure the bike was blue). Is he still thinking/looking to sell it? I have a friend that wants a CBR.

Not looking at selling it, crashed it instead :facepalm:
And am now fixing it :sweatdrop

[gloplg]

Wednesday Maintenance Evening.

2nd May.

6pm start.

At Wofman's place.

Gloucester Motors.

Cnr Gloucester Street and Fitzgerald Ave.

[Gareth123]

Not looking at selling it, crashed it instead :facepalm:
And am now fixing it :sweatdrop

Doh!

How did that happen?

[Spuds1234]

Doh!

How did that happen?

Generally more than just the tyres on the bike start touching the ground for prolonged periods of time...

[Mushu]

I'm getting conflicting weather reports, MET service is the more reliable and says rain, but I think I'll just keep an eye on it and see how it turns out.

Looks good so far, MET service still predicts rain but it says 0.2mm between 5 and 7pm, and the app on my phone says 10% chance of rain(which seems to be far more accurate than MET service in terms of how often it gets it right despite the fact that it is linked to the weather channel in america)

I figure it should be alright, planning on keeping this pretty short anyway - I'm in the middle of moving and got some sorting out to do tonight before I go home.

I will post an update in a couple of hours, but for now still planning on setting out from BK at 5:30

[Spuds1234]

Wednesday Maintenance Evening.


At Wofman's place.

Gloucester Motors.

Cnr Gloucester Street and Fitzgerald Ave.



Im all for this but I feel that we should decide now where to go afterwards for drinks. Somewhere nearby with plenty of parking and good food.

[Mushu]

Weather looks like it will hold, don't know about anyone else.
But I'll b leaving BK at 5:30

[Peeteey]

Weather looks like it will hold, don't know about anyone else.
But I'll b leaving BK at 5:30

Prob too late now for you to get this before you leave but I'll meet you at the top of the hill, Sign Of The Kiwi :Punk:

[Mushu]

sweet, it doesn't look like any1 else is coming so I'll head up there now

[Subike]

I'd be keen for either or both. When and where does the Ulysses ride go? Ah, found it:


Maybe instead of Arthurs Pass, we do the St. John ride then head over to Akas?

Hey thanks for putting that up peeteey
I knew it was on but didnt know specifics,
Maybe it should be posted as its own thread, and bumpt over the weekend so that others can see it on.
i will be there for the pootle, rain or shine

[Spuds1234]

Hey thanks for putting that up peeteey
I knew it was on but didnt know specifics,
Maybe it should be posted as its own thread, and bumpt over the weekend so that others can see it on.
i will be there for the pootle, rain or shine


Any idea on where you guys will head to after the Ulysses ride?

I've ridden in a huge group of riders before and I have no desire to do it again, it was not very enjoyable (even though it was for a good cause). However if the weather is good and Im feeling up for a hoon I'd be more than happy to meet you guys afterwards for a beer.

[BEAMER89]

Wednesday Maintenance Evening.

2nd May.

6pm start.

At Wofman's place.

Gloucester Motors.

Cnr Gloucester Street and Fitzgerald Ave.


Thanks Gary
Big :niceone:up for Wayne doing this for us again this winter:first:

[Shoshoni]

Was a nice night for a ride not too cold either, shame we lost :facepalm: three peeps tho on the ride.

[Peeteey]

Cheers for the eventful ride this evening folks! Hope all is well Mushu ...

While I was waiting for the KB bunch at the sign of the Kiwi I met 2 other bikers called Magda and Lee who just happened to be out for a ride doing the exact same route so we joined up.

Magda and Lee, if you find this forum, get in touch. Your txt didn't come through so I don't have your number.