VFR owners' thread, for VFRPS members and prospective members

[Icemaestro]

Balanced my carbs today..
Good lord, what a bloody job that was. Spent the first 2 hours trying to get the blanking screws out. They were in perrrrfect condition, so I don't think they've been off since the bike was new! A lot of hammering and WD40 was required.
It turns out that unless you have TINY hands, you really do need a right angled screwdriver to get at the balancing screws. I have some nice burns on my hands from getting in there with a 7mm socket..
All up it took me about 4 hours. Lots and lots of fucking around trying to work out how to improvise tools to access hard to reach places. At one point I had a 7mm socket duct taped at a 90 degree angle onto a crescent attached to a long screwdriver to get at the balancing screws. It didn't work :(.

On a brighter note. It's smoother all through the rev range, less vibey, and not nearly as jerky with 1st gear low speed maneuvering. It was worth it. Just..

Sweet!do you own a manometer? probably more likely that they were done up tight, plus it gets hot and cold around there, makes things difficult, as they would have been off with a service at some point in the last 25 years :-)


I have a right angled screwdriver...not sure what other use it is for though!

[Vinz0r]

Sweet!do you own a manometer? probably more likely that they were done up tight, plus it gets hot and cold around there, makes things difficult, as they would have been off with a service at some point in the last 25 years :-)


I have a right angled screwdriver...not sure what other use it is for though!

Yeah, went halves with a mate on a Morgan Carbtune Pro. Didn't want the inaccuracy of the gauge type, and didn't want to piss around with mercury. It worked nicely, picked up very small movements on the sync screw so I assume it has pretty decent precision.
The screws were in absolutely perfect condition, like.. it didn't look like a screwdriver had ever been near them. They're bloody soft as well, so there should be some marking if they'd been off before. The bike has only done 29,000 so it's entirely possible that it's never had a carb sync.

[Vinz0r]

Anyone planning on heading along to this twilight session on the 4th of Feb?


$60!! So cheap!
Quick update on this. It seems as though the date on the poster is incorrect. Its actually on Tuesday the third of Feb. I'm booked in, hope to see some of you chaps there!

[sil3nt]

Quick update on this. It seems as though the date on the poster is incorrect. Its actually on Tuesday the third of Feb. I'm booked in, hope to see some of you chaps there!Did you register at Honda Hamilton or online?

I can't see the usual booking on hdticketing.

[williamshatnerspants]

There will be two NC30s there, would be great to see a few more of you, only $60!

Matt

[Vinz0r]

You have to register through www.playdayontrack.co.nz they don't have an online booking system, you go to the contact area and fill out the email form with the details of the event you want to book.

[Icemaestro]

What groups are yall going in? fast, medium or novice? I did novice last time, though wasn't horrendously slow....

[sil3nt]

Will go medium this time. Done a lot of days in novice but the last one was so busy I was constantly in traffic.

Replaced my grips today with these http://www.fastbikegear.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=1173

Took the bar ends off and noticed the bolts were shit so took them into town to find replacements. Couldn't find replacements and managed to lose them before I got home :facepalm:

[Vinz0r]

What groups are yall going in? fast, medium or novice? I did novice last time, though wasn't horrendously slow....

I'm not entirely sure. I've done a few track days at Taupo but that was on much bigger bikes. I haven't been on the Hampton track before. Also I've never had this bike on the track.. I wasn't asked to specify which group I wanted to be in when I registered, but it says they're fairly flexible with regard to changing groups on the day if needed, so I might go novice for a session or two to learn the track and the bike, then maybe move up to the medium group.

[monchopper]

Hi Guys

I've not been back in NZ long and I'm selling my 97 750 that I brought back from UK and aren't sure what category to put it into. As it's a sports tourer do I put it in Tourers or Sports?
Where do most bikes sell? Trademe, MotorcycleTrade......etc?

I've got it on trademe under tourers link here (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=828728205)

Any comments would be appreciated

[sil3nt]

Put a post up here: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php/18-Online-Trading

Trademe should be all you need.

[Icemaestro]

I'm not entirely sure. I've done a few track days at Taupo but that was on much bigger bikes. I haven't been on the Hampton track before. Also I've never had this bike on the track.. I wasn't asked to specify which group I wanted to be in when I registered, but it says they're fairly flexible with regard to changing groups on the day if needed, so I might go novice for a session or two to learn the track and the bike, then maybe move up to the medium group.
I don't think you can switch groups once you have picked one - you get a coloured wristband when you sign up on the day that determines what group they let you on for...Matt went medium last time, I just worry that medium is more likely to have retards who think they are better than they are :-p



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[sil3nt]

I don't think you can switch groups once you have picked one - you get a coloured wristband when you sign up on the day that determines what group they let you on for...Matt went medium last time, I just worry that medium is more likely to have retards who think they are better than they are :-p



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My first trackday was medium. Have gone novice ever since. I wasn't the slowest in medium but there are far too many straightline heros in that group. Nothing I hate more than something passing me then pulling onto my line and hitting the brakes early.

You can switch during the day but it depends on numbers. With only four sessions in a twilight I would just stick to one group.

[Autech]

My first trackday was medium. Have gone novice ever since. I wasn't the slowest in medium but there are far too many straightline heros in that group. Nothing I hate more than something passing me then pulling onto my line and hitting the brakes early.

You can switch during the day but it depends on numbers. With only four sessions in a twilight I would just stick to one group.

There is also more crashes in medium. Safer being in Novice and skipping medium when you are fast enough I reckon.

[monchopper]

Put a post up here: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php/18-Online-Trading

Trademe should be all you need.

Cheers, have done.

Is my price on the high side? Not getting much action although a heap of views and a good number of watchers.
Thoughts on the market value would be appreciated.

[sil3nt]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-833738182.htm

[del-solider]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-833738182.htm

:drool: Wow what a machine!

Loved my rvf400 can only imagine what that would be like.
Will get snatched up pretty quick I imagine.

[Icemaestro]

Cheers, have done.

Is my price on the high side? Not getting much action although a heap of views and a good number of watchers.
Thoughts on the market value would be appreciated.

maybe slightly on the high side? 4999? you have done a lot of work but unfortunately that doesn't always go to a direct increase in price :-). also few scrapes that would put people off. Low KMs though :-)

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-833738182.htm

do want. mmm hmmmm

[Icemaestro]

To the wife "oh check out this bike!" Wife: " it looks just like one of your three bikes now!" Me "no this ones bigger and one of 300!" Wife:"you have to sell one of your other ones first!" ...then I told her the price...she didn't say no exactly...all good?


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[monchopper]

maybe slightly on the high side? 4999? you have done a lot of work but unfortunately that doesn't always go to a direct increase in price :-). also few scrapes that would put people off. Low KMs though :-)

Cheers for the feedback,
Unfortunately a car backed into the bike in a car park and knocked it over, the crash bungs did take most of the impact, it was totally mint before that. Then the b@stard drove off.

[sil3nt]

Spent Friday at Taupo for an open pitlane test day.

Bike was quite saggy at the rear so wound in a heap of preload and dropped 3 seconds from my lap time straight away.

Got a chance to ride an Aprilia RS250 as well. I have always wanted a 2 stroke so was very excited by this opportunity and the bike did not disappoint! Very sharp handling and amazingly powerful brakes. Lacked a bit of power up top as my bike was able catch it down the back straight but otherwise was impressed. The kid that normally rides the Aprilia had a go on mine and didn't want to get off. He loved the NC30...first time he has ridden a big four stroke.

Also got a chance to ride an R6. This was like the RS250 on steroids. Razor sharp handling, a lot of power and the loudest motorcycle I have ever heard.

So an r6 and a 250 two stroke on the shopping list!

[Vinz0r]

I think my fuel tap diaphragm is buggered.

I've been noticing that after extended higher rpm operation, my bike will sometimes stall when returning to idle. It idles fine otherwise, and will happily idle when hot (90 degrees+) so it's not too rich. Float heights are good, A/F screws are good, all jets and passages are clean as a whistle, and carbs have been recently balanced.

I am thinking it is a fueling issue, where the carbs are emptying too much after higher RPM riding. So when I come to a halt the level in the carb bowl is too low, which causes the stall.

When I balanced the carbs recently, I tested the fuel tap to make sure it was flowing when vacuum was applied. It did, but it wouldn't hold the tap open. Sucking on the pipe and then sealing it resulted in a spurt of fuel, rather than constant flow. Even sucking on it and blocking it with my tongue right away only resulted in a single spurt of fuel.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I am under the impression that the diaphragm should stay open when vacuum is applied and the pipe is sealed.
Can someone please confirm that there should be a constant flow of fuel when vacuum is applied and hose is sealed?


It seems that there is a vacuum leak on the fuel tap end. I checked the vacuum line and there were no splits or holes in it, so I assume this means I have a faulty fuel tap diaphragm.

Are there any clever ways to fix this? Or am I going to need to buy a rebuild kit.
Any other thoughts or advice on this, please feel free to chime in.

Or if anyone has a good NC30 fuel tap they'd like to sell..

[Icemaestro]

It sounds all right? You say ful flows when you suck on the vacuum tube , and then stops when you stop sucking...that is normal?? A failure in the fuel tap diaphragm usually results in the tap leaking when no vacuum is applied


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[Vinz0r]

It sounds all right? You say ful flows when you suck on the vacuum tube , and then stops when you stop sucking...that is normal?? A failure in the fuel tap diaphragm usually results in the tap leaking when no vacuum is applied


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Yeah but when you apply vacuum to the fuel tap you should be able to seal it and the fuel will keep flowing. When I seal it the fuel stops flowing, which is why I think there's probably a vacuum leak in the diaphragm.

How I see it is:

When engine is running there is a vacuum on the fuel line which opens the fuel tap. The fuel tap will be open 100% because there will be always be a vacuum applied to it due to the diaphragm being sealed.

If my fuel tap is faulty, the diaphragm will not be completely open all the time, it will constantly be trying to close and the pulsing vacuum coming from the cylinder will keep pulling it back open (the vacuum won't be constant because of the leak in the diaphragm). This will restrict the amount of fuel allowed to flow through the carb which leads to low fuel in the float bowls after I've been using more fuel than usual (lots of high RPM).

[HenryDorsetCase]

Do the HRC fuel tap mod ~ google. Make sure you block the carb body screw properly

[HenryDorsetCase]

David Silver has spares too

[Icemaestro]

I would politely disagree with the mod...I seem to be able to run the bike at 9k +rpm for 15-20mon without any issues? The prob with doing the hrc mod is that you have to remember to turn it off every time, and if one of your floats sticks, cylinder gets filled! My last bike I had to keep tools with me until I got a repair kit, as cylinder kept hydro locking


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[Vinz0r]

Do the HRC fuel tap mod ~ google. Make sure you block the carb body screw properly

This is probably the best way to go for determining whether the fuel tap is the problem, and I have considered doing it.
I just know that I won't remember to switch the tap to 'Off' after every ride. I dread the thought of filling the cylinders with fuel because of a fickle float valve.

In fact I think I remember Icemaestro reported doing that a hundred or so pages back when his float valve got stuck :P

[Vinz0r]

I would politely disagree with the mod...I seem to be able to run the bike at 9k +rpm for 15-20mon without any issues? The prob with doing the hrc mod is that you have to remember to turn it off every time, and if one of your floats sticks, cylinder gets filled! My last bike I had to keep tools with me until I got a repair kit, as cylinder kept hydro locking


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Hah, yeah that's what I am worried about happening. Don't want to bend a valve by cranking over a hydrolocked engine. If my fuel tap was functioning I wouldn't do the mod, but it would probably fix my issue as it would stop the diaphragm from restricting fuel flow. This would also be a good way to diagnose the issue before spending money on a fuel tap rebuild kit.

Can't do it right now, just filled her up with gas yesterday :(

[Icemaestro]

I think I got my last one from another uk company, was cheapest...
Usually with a split diaphragm the pressure of the fuel combined with sucking from the engine causes fuel to be pulled into the ?3rd cylinder, making it run crappy....


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[HenryDorsetCase]

I would politely disagree with the mod...I seem to be able to run the bike at 9k +rpm for 15-20mon without any issues? The prob with doing the hrc mod is that you have to remember to turn it off every time, and if one of your floats sticks, cylinder gets filled! My last bike I had to keep tools with me until I got a repair kit, as cylinder kept hydro locking


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fair enough. Mines a track only thing so it never sits with fuel in it really.

[williamshatnerspants]

Hi Guys,

I messaged Robert at Carbon Garage who have the 2 RC30s and RC45 for sale. He is keen to get a group of V4s together for a ride. I have suggested he brings all 3 to Hampton Downs, if not for the track day, then just for fun.

If you want to join us for this or another ride please go to Carbon Garage's facebook page. You can find the thread with the photo of the 2 RC30's outside the shop. I'm Matt Hancock BTW.

FYI on groups for the track day. I've been in both novice and medium groups on the NC30. If its your first time on the track going in 'novice' is obvious, but if you have some experience then I would suggest medium. Jonathon and I did low 1:30 times which is within the recommended times for the medium group. Yes you will get passed by the straight line heros but I find it better than watching out for noobs ;o)

Either way, hope to see you all there.

[Autech]

Hi Chaps

Can you search your garages for an NC24 rear brake master cylinder. Mine broke in a wee lowside at Ruapuna on Friday :doh:

[mr bucketracer]

Hi Chaps

Can you search your garages for an NC24 rear brake master cylinder. Mine broke in a wee lowside at Ruapuna on Friday :doh:only found a engine sorry (-:

[Autech]

only found a engine sorry (-:

Well lets hope I don't need one of them any time soon!

[mr bucketracer]

Well lets hope I don't need one of them any time soon!you where to find one now (-; lol

[Icemaestro]

Sorry no nc24 ever!

Booked in for this honda evening, looking forward to it! Manager nearly booked a 4-5 meeting but quickly fixed that!

Lastly, anyone have an nc30 subframe knocking round in good/ok nick? Ie not cut and still has the rear coil mount? I made a mount, but thinking that I might need an oem one for re vin process? Anyone know how tough they are? I was going to pull the one off my other vfr just for the vin but after it taking almost an hour to get the other one off...


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[merv]

Any of you need a 1994 VFR750F red coloured left middle fairing panel? I've ended up with an American spec one that is brand new that I don't need so have put it on TradeMe http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=838679199

[mr bucketracer]

does the nsr250 gullarm look better .thought i better kickstart this build again lol
gpr400nc302.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=840142503


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Autech]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=840142503


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

8k? Blow me down!

[Icemaestro]

does the nsr250 gullarm look better .thought i better kickstart this build again lol
gpr400nc302.jpg

Looks better than the old cbr600f one...still one too many sides though for this thread ;-)

[Icemaestro]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=840142503


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Tell him he's dreeeeaamin. does it come with the learner plate?

[mr bucketracer]

Looks better than the old cbr600f one...still one too many sides though for this thread ;-)had a rs125 one last time , more wheels to chose from this way (-:

[ecko_nzed]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=840142503


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

If by "or near offer" he means "a far away offer" it seems reasonable

[V4-Junkie]

If by "or near offer" he means "a far away offer" it seems reasonable

Actually 7-8k is what they have been advertised for in NZ AND Aus. Getting to be a collectors item now and sort after by a certain crowd. Although original fairings would be expected at that price plus it would have to be a very tidy example. I have one. I'm sure I could smoke some 600s at Hamptons on that thing...well one day...when I finish the engine rebuild.

[bogan]

Been hanging out for an RC36 for about 18months now; last weekend one popped up on TM in porirua; came with a parts bike too, though in many many parts I'm told it still runs fine so that'll be this weekend's job.

Fucking nice bike, though a little on the porkie side, but I've got ideas...

[ecko_nzed]

Actually 7-8k is what they have been advertised for in NZ AND Aus. Getting to be a collectors item now and sort after by a certain crowd. Although original fairings would be expected at that price plus it would have to be a very tidy example. I have one. I'm sure I could smoke some 600s at Hamptons on that thing...well one day...when I finish the engine rebuild.

Being advertised at that price and knowing if it's actually selling for that price is hard to determine. It would have to be mint. As for being able to smoke a 600 at Hampton. That depends, if you're talking about modern 600's, then that would be about rider ability. It's very easy to make squids like silly on their bigger bikes. But I just sold my RVF and got a new 600. And I'm afraid to say it's just better everywhere.

[Icemaestro]

Been hanging out for an RC36 for about 18months now; last weekend one popped up on TM in porirua; came with a parts bike too, though in many many parts I'm told it still runs fine so that'll be this weekend's job.

Fucking nice bike, though a little on the porkie side, but I've got ideas...

Nice Bogan! Why didn't I see that!

Little bit of irony, I recently picked up a do-er upper bros 400. currently swearing over recovering the seat as we speak! Swaps?:msn-wink:

[Icemaestro]

Being advertised at that price and knowing if it's actually selling for that price is hard to determine. It would have to be mint. As for being able to smoke a 600 at Hampton. That depends, if you're talking about modern 600's, then that would be about rider ability. It's very easy to make squids like silly on their bigger bikes. But I just sold my RVF and got a new 600. And I'm afraid to say it's just better everywhere.

What did you get? I used to have a cbr600f that I built - circa 1992-1998 parts. quick as anything but I reckon silly amount of power for the daily commute...even with Pilot road's had to be on to it in the corners in the wet. I find the vfr much more forgiving of mistakes.

[bogan]

Nice Bogan! Why didn't I see that!

Little bit of irony, I recently picked up a do-er upper bros 400. currently swearing over recovering the seat as we speak! Swaps?:msn-wink:

It's very nice indeed. Obligatory pic attached.

haha, shouldn't be too hard to recover a bros seat, pretty smooth lines.

[Icemaestro]

Very nice! and a pack rack! do you mind me asking how much?

I think my staple gun is too light...need a heavy duty one - it managed the VFR400 tiny seat okay, but just struggling with the bros. also finding the step up in the seat is a little tricky...

[Icemaestro]

Also while you are on here - my rev counter on the bros isn't working - have you ever had issues with that? it jumps up and down a little, making me think there is a loose contact somewhere - checked the main ground and looks okay but need to test I guess to figure out if there is a problem with wiring or with the unit itself...any ideas?

[bogan]

Very nice! and a pack rack! do you mind me asking how much?

I think my staple gun is too light...need a heavy duty one - it managed the VFR400 tiny seat okay, but just struggling with the bros. also finding the step up in the seat is a little tricky...

$3,600, pretty happy with that deal.


Also while you are on here - my rev counter on the bros isn't working - have you ever had issues with that? it jumps up and down a little, making me think there is a loose contact somewhere - checked the main ground and looks okay but need to test I guess to figure out if there is a problem with wiring or with the unit itself...any ideas?

Nah mine was fine (now got digital though), but checking grounds would be my first thought too.

[ecko_nzed]

What did you get? I used to have a cbr600f that I built - circa 1992-1998 parts. quick as anything but I reckon silly amount of power for the daily commute...even with Pilot road's had to be on to it in the corners in the wet. I find the vfr much more forgiving of mistakes.

2015 GSX-R600 L5. In the Suzuki MotoGP colours. Still running it in, but loving everything about it.

[sil3nt]

2015 GSX-R600 L5. In the Suzuki MotoGP colours. Still running it in, but loving everything about it.So tempting to buy one of those!

Agree that these modern 600s can easily out handle the old 400s.

[Vinz0r]

So tempting to buy one of those!

Agree that these modern 600s can easily out handle the old 400s.

I don't know why, but I have a shitload more fun on my NC30 with crap old suspension than I ever did on my 05 ZX6R!

[V4-Junkie]

2015 GSX-R600 L5. In the Suzuki MotoGP colours. Still running it in, but loving everything about it.

My mate just bought exactly the same bike. Can't sneeze at the price they are at right now, such a bargain. I love the colour scheme. If I didn't have a litre bike and wanted a track only tool, I would get that.

BTW: What did you end up getting for the RVF (if you don't mind me asking)?

[sil3nt]

I don't know why, but I have a shitload more fun on my NC30 with crap old suspension than I ever did on my 05 ZX6R!Probably helped that the R6 I road had its suspension set up and was on slicks! The thing was effortless to turn.

My bike could do with a few more tweaks to get the handling spot on. Looking forward to Tuesday!

[ecko_nzed]

My mate just bought exactly the same bike. Can't sneeze at the price they are at right now, such a bargain. I love the colour scheme. If I didn't have a litre bike and wanted a track only tool, I would get that.

BTW: What did you end up getting for the RVF (if you don't mind me asking)?

$4000. Advertised for $4500, but it's hard to resist someone with cash in hand

[Vinz0r]

Looking forward to Tuesday!

Yeah, weather forecast says showers. Hopefully it won't be too bad.
A few of us from Hamilton are riding up together, want to join?

[sil3nt]

Think I just shed a couple of kilos by cleaning out the front sprocket cover...

Might order new sprockets and chain and just give everything a massive clean. So much sticky black grease/lube around the drivetrain.

[Vinz0r]

Does anyone have a cheap source for shorter dogbones for the NC30?
Only options I've found so far are fitting NC35 dogbones (which are bloody expensive!) or buying some modified ones from Rick Oliver (still bloody expensive!).
It's just a couple of pieces of steel so surely there are some cheaper aftermarket replacements out there?

[bogan]

Does anyone have a cheap source for shorter dogbones for the NC30?
Only options I've found so far are fitting NC35 dogbones (which are bloody expensive!) or buying some modified ones from Rick Oliver (still bloody expensive!).
It's just a couple of pieces of steel so surely there are some cheaper aftermarket replacements out there?

Might be that it fucks the linkage action up. If there is a known good length it would be cheap enough to machine something to spec anyway.

[Vinz0r]

Might be that it fucks the linkage action up. If there is a known good length it would be cheap enough to machine something to spec anyway.

Mm, I might get some measurements and see about having some made.

[sil3nt]

How to ride slow at Taupo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkIuvPQ0ckA

With the half front fairing on it makes the bike feel incredibly small...

Fastest lap that day was a 1:56 but didn't have camera running (had a mates GPS data unit on tank)

[Vinz0r]

Soooooo my bike started intermittently running on three cylinders today. Pulled the plugs, left rear is beyond fucked; almost no gap and heaps of soot all over it, it had intermittent spark when I tested it grounded on the frame. I pulled the lot and gave them a good clean, heated them in a burner to burn off any residue, re-gapped them, and put them back in.
Still no luck with left rear cylinder.
Ordered a new set of plugs, but they won't be here for a little while. I wish these damn plugs were more widely available, and were'nt $40 each in New Zealand.

The worst part is that I'm booked in for the Honda track day at Hampton downs tomorrow :violin:

I don't know how the organisers are about last minute transfers, but if they're cool with it, does anyone want my spot?

[Vinz0r]

Nobody wants a free track day? :shit:

[V4-Junkie]

Nobody wants a free track day? :shit:

Bummer dude. I have some spare (used) plugs. I'm going to be at Hamptons, if you want to try your luck, I can bring a couple.

Txt me. Oh too-1 505 156.

[Vinz0r]

Bummer dude. I have some spare (used) plugs. I'm going to be at Hamptons, if you want to try your luck, I can bring a couple.

Txt me. Oh too-1 505 156.

Hey man, thanks for the offer, but I'd be riding the bike up, and I don't think it'd be too much fun trying to make it up there running on 3!

[Icemaestro]

No one has a spare you can throw in? I also have a couple that I could bring down

On that note...reckon itl fine up again like yesterday?

And lastly. Damn meetings..have one scheduled til 3:30 in ellerslie so should make it down by 4:15 or so...that'l be all right won't it?

How many people on here will be there? Mine will be the ratty half seed looking one with a pack rack (changed fairings since the last day!)


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[sil3nt]

No one has a spare you can throw in? I also have a couple that I could bring down

On that note...reckon itl fine up again like yesterday?

And lastly. Damn meetings..have one scheduled til 3:30 in ellerslie so should make it down by 4:15 or so...that'l be all right won't it?

How many people on here will be there? Mine will be the ratty half seed looking one with a pack rack (changed fairings since the last day!)


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Weather will be good.

[V4-Junkie]

You, me and Matt I believe. Plus an RC30 and RC45.
Weather will be good.

Add to that an RC46. The real one with Gear Driven Cams! :niceone:

[Icemaestro]

Nice to meet you v4 junkie! You don't know the other nc30 owner do you? Mr measuring air fuel mix and trying to half hrc it!?:-)

What happened to you Matt!'? There's a spare nc30 in my garage!?;-)


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[Icemaestro]

Also, no rc30 or 45!:-(


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[sil3nt]

Add to that an RC46. The real one with Gear Driven Cams! :niceone:I think I saw you there. Silver/red VFR? I shouldn't be so anti-social and should have said hi :facepalm:


Nice to meet you v4 junkie! You don't know the other nc30 owner do you? Mr measuring air fuel mix and trying to half hrc it!?:-)No idea who he is but he talked enough shit he would fit in well on this site.


Also, no rc30 or 45!:-(Yeah that was a shame!

Would like to have chatted more with yah Mat but every time I came in you had disappeared :bleh:

Stoked I got my knee down for the first time :Punk:

308630

[V4-Junkie]

Nice to meet you v4 junkie! You don't know the other nc30 owner do you? Mr measuring air fuel mix and trying to half hrc it!?:-)

What happened to you Matt!'? There's a spare nc30 in my garage!?;-)


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I talked with him further. He said he'll be at the Friday event, but bringing his Aprilia RS250. Says he prefers the smalls bikes...I can appreciate that.

BTW: I thought I was faster on the VFR than the RSV4. Wrong! I checked the lap times, 4 seconds a lap slower. It was however much more fun not having to man handle a powerful litre bike.

Yeah, would have been great to see an RC30 in its natural environment. I did ride one back in the 90s. Sublime...

[Icemaestro]

Haha yeah unlikely that the vfr would be faster, even with the cornering!

Not sure the wife would let me do two in a week!he also said he is an importer for tyga or something? Seems like something that needs to be investigated further...


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[V4-Junkie]

Haha yeah unlikely that the vfr would be faster, even with the cornering!

Not sure the wife would let me do two in a week!he also said he is an importer for tyga or something? Seems like something that needs to be investigated further...


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Ha, yeah I had to go into numerous rounds of negotiations with my wife before she agreed to two in one week. I'll pay...one way or another.

As for the RSV4, as expected it's all about the straights. Can corner much faster on the VFR.

Back straight to turn 6: Top speed (indicated) before braking - VFR 180 vs. RSV4 190. Main straight - VFR 230 vs 260.

What was the name of the App you showed me? Diablo something?

[Vinz0r]

Tony from playdayontrack has said I can transfer my entry fee to any of their other events since I missed out on this one. What a good guy!
I am thinking the twilight session on friday the 27th of Feb might be a good option. Only $80.

[V4-Junkie]

I think I saw you there. Silver/red VFR? I shouldn't be so anti-social and should have said hi :facepalm:



Yeah that was me. Next time roll on up and say...ello.

Did anyone notice the 'big' white VFR1200 on track. Kind of looked (and sounded) cool (considering how ugly they appear in photos) :Pokey:

[Icemaestro]

Which group was that in? There were a couple of big white things that I thought looked suzuki or Kawasaki like as I passed them on the corners ;-)


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[V4-Junkie]

Which group was that in? There were a couple of big white things that I thought looked suzuki or Kawasaki like as I passed them on the corners ;-)


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Medium.

Money shot:

http://clmintiepix.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Honda-Twilight-Track-Day-Hampton-Downs-3rd-Feb-2015/G0000QwmI1kwG2hM/I0000q6yTHRrxFco

[Autech]

Hi all

Been looking into tyres and I think I have found a solution (providing I can get them in the country).

Has anyone run BT39's on their NC24 before? It means going up to a 140 on the rear, but I think for racing having a better tyre is preferable if I can manage it. Got my mechanic hunting some down now, will be interesting to see how he gets on. Cycletreads have the tyre but just not in the right sizes for the VFR.

Apologies if anyone has mentioned this before in this thread, I did a search for BT39 but came up dry.

Got a mastercylinder enroute from a dude on trademe, should be all good for King of Ruapuna next weekend. WOOHOO!

[Icemaestro]

What size tyre is on the nc24 rear? Nc30 is 150/60/r18....

What is the bt39? The uk chaps run bt90's and 92's over there...


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[mr bucketracer]

308676just need muffers now and a bit more welding

[Vinz0r]

308676just need muffers now and a bit more welding

I keep an eye on your thread over at 400GB, this is very cool.

[mr bucketracer]

I keep an eye on your thread over at 400GB, this is very cool.thanks , i'v been dreading making the exhaurts for it but the hard job is done now , if a could spend a week on it i think a could finsh it , then its building the hot motor but will have some fun at the track first

[Icemaestro]

Yeah whats happening?those two exhausts going to meet up before an undertail exhaust? What are you going to do with the engine? And what are the forks from??

[mr bucketracer]

Yeah whats happening?those two exhausts going to meet up before an undertail exhaust? What are you going to do with the engine? And what are the forks from??the 2 back cylinders are both 2 into 1 running out the back of the set , front 2 to 1 down the side , forks are are off the newer zxr250 so has the ajusters on them , engine going to be hrc cam grind , higher com , advance the ignition 5 degress , may run 1mm oversize pistons don't know yet and ported

[Vinz0r]

Quick question - how lean is too lean?
My old plugs were a bit tired (too much rich running while experimenting with jets and idle mixtures has worn them out!) so I treated the NC30 to a new set today. The old ones were a nice light brown colour around the insulators but tended to get a little bit sooty over time.

After a 100km ride with the new plugs in with lots of high RPM and WOT, I pulled them to see if I was running rich. Based on how the old ones looked I was expecting a bit of soot, and maybe having to go down a jet size.
There was only a tiny bit of soot on the base ring, and the porcelain insulators were still crisp white!

It's running a straight-through short carbon fiber muffler on cut stock headers. Jetting is 118f/120r with one extra shim under the needles.
During the ride it revved fine straight up to redline, and didn't feel flat anywhere.

I'm not really worried, as there are no lean flat spots, and she's running beautifully.
Just wondering if you guys are getting nice tan coloured plugs with similar carb/exhaust set ups, or if they're staying reasonably white.

[Icemaestro]

That's odd, what is it like when Reving from idle? Do the revs hang? Oh, I just clicked - what was the colour on the contacts themselves? Are you thinking it is running lean because of the porcelain insulator? That doesn't change, it's what's on the contacts where the spark happens - mine have always been clean often with a tiny bit of soot, which is normal (do you have a Haynes manual? Back page).


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[Vinz0r]

Revs fine from idle. Doesn't hang at all when returning. Contacts were normal, it was the porcelain insulator that stayed white. Every other bike I've had the porcelain has gone a tan off white colour and as I understand it, if it stays white that means it's a bit lean. Ah well I guess as with many other aspects maybe NC30s are just a little different.

[Icemaestro]

I always thought it was more what was on the contact points, though if there is actual white stuff on the insulators then not so good? Mine always seem to have a bit of carbon build up like the middle top pic but not so bad? (What does this mean?)
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/attachments/anything-about-alfa-romeos-alfabb-com/9852d1100019475-spark-plug-color-chart-spkplg_colorchart1.jpg



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[Vinz0r]

I always thought it was more what was on the contact points

Yeah if the electrode and strap are fouling that means you're running quite rich (or your plugs are buggered).


though if there is actual white stuff on the insulators then not so good?

Nah no white flecks or peppering or anything


Mine always seem to have a bit of carbon build up like the middle top pic but not so bad? (What does this mean?)
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/attachments/anything-about-alfa-romeos-alfabb-com/9852d1100019475-spark-plug-color-chart-spkplg_colorchart1.jpg

Yeah the porcelain insulator is supposed to go a tan/light brown colour when your A/F mixture is spot on. If you're getting a lot of soot on the insulator it's probably a bit rich on the mains.
A bit of colour on the insulator is good though, which is why I am wondering why mine is staying so white.

[EDIT] Went for another long ride, pulled the rear plugs and took a photo (they were identical).
http://iforce.co.nz/i/t1vk5lrg.vym.jpg

[Icemaestro]

Maybe you need to ride it more?;-)


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[Icemaestro]

Odd, I have as light hang so would have said a bit lean for me esp since I'm running 115 and 118's on a half system


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[Vinz0r]

Odd, I have as light hang so would have said a bit lean for me esp since I'm running 115 and 118's on a half system


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What are your A/F screws set to?

[Icemaestro]

Uhh think 2 or 2.25? As per cammo's guide for a half system so slightly richer than stock?....



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[Vinz0r]

Ah yep, might need to go another 8th out to get rid of the hang. How's your low speed cruise? (1st gear in parking lots etc)

[Icemaestro]

Fine I think? What would I be looking for?

[Vinz0r]

Fine I think? What would I be looking for?

Slightly erratic exhaust note while holding throttle steady at low RPM, and feeling a bit down on power from low revs.

[Icemaestro]

Slightly erratic exhaust note while holding throttle steady at low RPM, and feeling a bit down on power from low revs.

Nope, steady and plenty of oomph :-)

[Vinz0r]

Nope, steady and plenty of oomph :-)

Well never mind then :P
With my cut standard exhaust and very open muffler I've found the sweet spot is 2 3/8ths out on the A/F screws.
That's with a sub 1000km old air filter and new plugs though.

[Vinz0r]

Decided to sell my NC30 instead of storing it while I'm overseas.

Here's the KB link if you lot are interested.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/173179-VFR400-NC30-for-sale-Low-KMs-lots-of-new-parts?p=1130831869#post1130831869

and trademe: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=848271690&ed=true

[Icemaestro]

How long you away for?:-( Could look after it for you instead?;-)

[Vinz0r]

How long you away for?:-( Could look after it for you instead?;-)

Away for a year (perhaps more depending on circumstances). I really want to just put it under a tarp in someones garage, but I need the money more than I need a bike in storage :(

[sil3nt]

So many NC30s for sale right now:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-849282695.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-830071764.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-848779333.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-765650719.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-845531316.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-848271690.htm

:crazy:

[Icemaestro]

I know! Not great for us! Though the 6200 and 4700 ones with Chinese fairings are dreaming! And then the other cheapie with Chinese plastic as well...tbh that red white one looks nice and tidy...though who knows how well looked after

[Vinz0r]

I know! Not great for us! Though the 6200 and 4700 ones with Chinese fairings are dreaming! And then the other cheapie with Chinese plastic as well...tbh that red white one looks nice and tidy...though who knows how well looked after

Haha yeah, I don't think we'll have any trouble selling though due to better service history etc. When I got the email from trademe about that red and white one this morning I was a little worried, but there are probably some problems with it if he's selling it at that price, also the fairings look to be a bit fucked.
I think the work that has been done on both of our bikes (steering head bearings etc etc) justifies the price we're both asking, and makes them probably more desirable than that one.

[Icemaestro]

Hopefully!:-) have a couple of people coming to have a look :-).

I thought the fairings of the red and white one looked really good?! OEM - has the rivets in the screen/front fairing...

[Vinz0r]

Hopefully!:-) have a couple of people coming to have a look :-).

I thought the fairings of the red and white one looked really good?! OEM - has the rivets in the screen/front fairing...

They're a bit scratched up though. Would need to see some higher res photos to tell for sure I think. The white on the tank doesn't seen to match either.

[Vinz0r]

So, it looks like my bike has sold pending collection and payment.
The buyer didn't want the original exhaust though, so I lowered the price a little.

It's a full standard system that I pulled off the bike when I put the cut system + carbon muffler on.
I see good condition ones going on UK ebay for stupid amounts of money ($500+!!), just wondering what you lot think I should sell it for?
Or if anyone is looking for one to buy, make me an offer? Not looking for a heck of a lot for it.
It'd probably need to be picked up from Hamilton though, as I imagine shipping would not be cheap.

Here's a photo, has a little bit of surface discolouration and rust in some areas, but I will give it a good clean and polish.
http://iforce.co.nz/i/a0zyzib5.kcs.jpg

[mr bucketracer]

is there anywhere in nz i can buy a set of new nc30 spark plugs ? someone did sell them on tm for around 90-100 dollars but now gone

[HenryDorsetCase]

is there anywhere in nz i can buy a set of new nc30 spark plugs ? someone did sell them on tm for around 90-100 dollars but now gone

I actually walked into my local Honduh dealer and bought a set when I needed some in a hurry. $40 each or some bullshit.

[Vinz0r]

is there anywhere in nz i can buy a set of new nc30 spark plugs ? someone did sell them on tm for around 90-100 dollars but now gone

I recently ordered a set from the UK from this supplier. Took about a week to arrive IIRC, but they're a shitload cheaper than you'll pay locally.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spark-Plug-Glow-Plugs-NGK-ER9EH-ER9-EH-Trade-Prices-5869-/331117774624?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d18284720

[Icemaestro]

I bought mine from amazon last time.

If you need some urgent you could call AJ at Motohaus. He usually has a set on hand being a vfr man himself. Google him/his workshop in central auckland.

[Icemaestro]

So, it looks like my bike has sold pending collection and payment.
The buyer didn't want the original exhaust though, so I lowered the price a little.

It's a full standard system that I pulled off the bike when I put the cut system + carbon muffler on.
I see good condition ones going on UK ebay for stupid amounts of money ($500+!!), just wondering what you lot think I should sell it for?
Or if anyone is looking for one to buy, make me an offer? Not looking for a heck of a lot for it.
It'd probably need to be picked up from Hamilton though, as I imagine shipping would not be cheap.

Here's a photo, has a little bit of surface discolouration and rust in some areas, but I will give it a good clean and polish.
http://iforce.co.nz/i/a0zyzib5.kcs.jpg

Do you mind me asking what you got? I probably went a little low at 3k considering I left the half system on (but swapped the shocks over...3.5h later!)

Mine just rode away :-( stuck with the project that runs on 2/3 cylinders haha. I think I need to bite the bullet and get them ultrasonically cleaned like the last set, unless anyone has any better ideas?

Will be sad to see you go from the vfr forum Vince, hope to see you back one day! Is the new owner going to join us on kiwibiker here?

Id go for your exhaust but I'm lusting after a system from the UK or japan I think...that and fork upgrade kit from rick oliver, stainless steel lines, Arashi discs....hmm everything that was on my sold bike :-P

[Vinz0r]

Do you mind me asking what you got? I probably went a little low at 3k considering I left the half system on (but swapped the shocks over...3.5h later!)

Mine just rode away :-( stuck with the project that runs on 2/3 cylinders haha. I think I need to bite the bullet and get them ultrasonically cleaned like the last set, unless anyone has any better ideas?

Will be sad to see you go from the vfr forum Vince, hope to see you back one day! Is the new owner going to join us on kiwibiker here?

Id go for your exhaust but I'm lusting after a system from the UK or japan I think...that and fork upgrade kit from rick oliver, stainless steel lines, Arashi discs....hmm everything that was on my sold bike :-P

Ended with $4400 in the hand. It was $200 less than I'd listed for, but the quick sale meant I didn't have to put more rego on (was expiring in 11 days) and he didn't want the standard exhaust which I should be able to sell for $100 - $200.

I was a bit sadder than I thought I'd be watching him ride it away down the road. It was an enormously fun bike, much more exciting to ride than anything else I've owned; just fast enough to keep road riding interesting, and so smooth through the corners!
I'll probably end up buying another one when I am back in the country and have a bit of spare cash laying around, so I imagine I'll still frequent this forum keeping an eye out for people selling their bikes ;)

Heh there are too many aftermarket goodies available for these bikes aren't there. So easy to keep spending money them.

[Icemaestro]

Ended with $4400 in the hand. It was $200 less than I'd listed for, but the quick sale meant I didn't have to put more rego on (was expiring in 11 days) and he didn't want the standard exhaust which I should be able to sell for $100 - $200.

I was a bit sadder than I thought I'd be watching him ride it away down the road. It was an enormously fun bike, much more exciting to ride than anything else I've owned; just fast enough to keep road riding interesting, and so smooth through the corners!
I'll probably end up buying another one when I am back in the country and have a bit of spare cash laying around, so I imagine I'll still frequent this forum keeping an eye out for people selling their bikes ;)

Heh there are too many aftermarket goodies available for these bikes aren't there. So easy to keep spending money them.

Hey, 4400 is a pretty good price for what was essentially a stock bike, excluding the front fairing and can :-).
Good man! pity didn't get to see you down at the track first! My plan is to keep this one given they are getting harder to find in unmolested condition.
Yes, Yes there are :-P. Some of the effort the 400GB guys go to with so many of their bikes is ridiculous! its almost a requirement for it to have an aftermarket shock, uprated forks and new everything!

[mr bucketracer]

thanks guys , i better ask a mate to get some of ebay , will try and see if the honda shop will do them for a good price, i just dont have a c.card , bike not to far of running

[Icemaestro]

Honda dealers don't know the meaning of a good price!!!


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[mr bucketracer]

Honda dealers don't know the meaning of a good price!!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkbugger , kind of know that )-; , just hooking up my wireing loom and found the 4 wires out the cdi witch seem to go to the pickups on engine has the same male plugs at both ends? are there diffents between models

[NAR RG500]

bugger , kind of know that )-; , just hooking up my wireing loom and found the 4 wires out the cdi witch seem to go to the pickups on engine has the same male plugs at both ends? are there diffents between models

Buy them from BNT, the two sets I have bought cost me about 20 per plug, or you can get from any Repco, just need a discount.

Cheers

[mr bucketracer]

Buy them from BNT, the two sets I have bought cost me about 20 per plug, or you can get from any Repco, just need a discount.

Cheersthanks will look into that, who did i get that nc30 cdi off in here , just want to know what model it was of , has a diffent 4 pin plug on it

[mr bucketracer]

309396some progress , should have it running in a week

[Icemaestro]

Nice :-)

Hey yall - been offered an HRC Mild steel system for my nc30 that needs a bit of a clean up, with a can with a little scrape on it Here (http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Ben_OB1/media/IMG_5624_zps6369843d.jpg.html)

Thoughts? good value for money? 250AUD plus shipping from adelaide...I figure if I attack it and VHT ceramic paint it it should come out all right? or should I go down this route HERE (http://japan.webike.net/products/1529699:e9d1efaafe07864caa247744fd583ebb.html)Free shipping!

[mr bucketracer]

is that the one of greybikes ...does anyone have 1 spear nc30 spark plug cap and lead?

[Icemaestro]

is that the one of greybikes ...does anyone have 1 spear nc30 spark plug cap and lead?

Yes it is off 400gb, I don't think he's advertised it though- the one up there at the mo is for 500 pounds, though there's a micron full system for 500£ that I would buy but it's a bit much!!! I thought that Yamamoto full system looked a good price though? What do you think? I just think the hrc ones don't look as nice in Matt black?


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[ecko_nzed]

is that the one of greybikes ...does anyone have 1 spear nc30 spark plug cap and lead?

I might have one, as I replaced all the leads on my NC35 just before I sold it. I'll check when I get home.

[Autech]

Anyone know anything about this bike?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=851858672

How much max do you think a NC21 could get fixed up and working? Debating fixing it up and selling it off, wouldn't want to overpay and cut even or lose money.

[Icemaestro]

Not much I think..1500-2k?nc24's go for 2-2.5k but they have single swingarm...


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[Autech]

Not much I think..1500-2k?nc24's go for 2-2.5k but they have single swingarm...


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I'm trying to get the rego off the chap so that I can find out if it's k's are genuine etc... If they are and all it needs is a tyre and oil it might be a good buy around 500.

Haha my 24 wasn't that cheap, but it was pretty... WAS until I threw it down Ruapuna that is lol.

[Icemaestro]

Haha true. Good examples with nice bodywork will always fetch more as they are few and far between at that age :-). Are the nc21's lams approved?


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[Autech]

K's look ok, been in NZ since 91 which isn't half bad.

Might go have a looksy tonight and see what's what. At the very least it might be good for crash spares for my NC24 depending on what bits swap over.

[Icemaestro]

From memory not much changes over as different swingarm, clutch, exhaust, subframe, reg/rec, wiring, brakes and engine is a fair bit diff as well. Frame is the same I think? And maybe the carb body? Pretty much everything was tweaked and improved from 21 to 24...I remember reading a 400gb thread about it ages ago as I looked at one too


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[Icemaestro]

Hi, anyone from welly/palmy familiar with nc30's mechanically? Having a looksie at this as a bit of a tidy up and maybe for the track http://www.trademe.co.nz/853383360 but it's selling on behalf and don't think he knows what he's talking about - is anyone free or able to take a look? I'm in Wellington for a night in 2-3 weeks but won't have any transport to make it to palmy (unless I buy the bike!) but would be keen to catch up with a drink or a box of beers as a thank you!:-)


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[Vinz0r]

Hi, anyone from welly/palmy familiar with nc30's mechanically? Having a looksie at this as a bit of a tidy up and maybe for the track http://www.trademe.co.nz/853383360 but it's selling on behalf and don't think he knows what he's talking about - is anyone free or able to take a look? I'm in Wellington for a night in 2-3 weeks but won't have any transport to make it to palmy (unless I buy the bike!) but would be keen to catch up with a drink or a box of beers as a thank you!:-)


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Front wheel on backward! Abort abort~!

[Icemaestro]

Front wheel on backward! Abort abort~!

How'd you spot that? The 'spokes' alternate direction? can you see the tyre arrow mark or do you just know that tread pattern real well?:-p


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[Vinz0r]

How'd you spot that? The 'spokes' alternate direction? can you see the tyre arrow mark or do you just know that tread pattern real well?:-p


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Spokes going the wrong way.

[Icemaestro]

Nice, good pick that! :-). Wonder if the tyre has been put on the right way on a wrong way rim or just the rim on...and is that likely to damage the rim or handling? I would imagine the spokes are designed to carry load a particular way when moving?


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[Vinz0r]

Nice, good pick that! :-). Wonder if the tyre has been put on the right way on a wrong way rim or just the rim on...and is that likely to damage the rim or handling? I would imagine the spokes are designed to carry load a particular way when moving?


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I can't figure out what the tyre is, but if it's a Bridgestone on the front it looks like it is on backward. The grooves should be running the other way.

[mark247]

Hi all, my bike is up for sale. It's been on TradeMe for a while but I've just lowered the price a bit as I need the money a little sooner than first thought.

Trademe link here: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=859912390

Description explains it all really. Had a bit of interest, open to offers, PM me or give me a bell on 0272336690.

Cheers,

Mark

[sil3nt]

310180

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZCm0s6rSY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pddOz045ys

[HondaLad]

Looks like it was a great day for it! Damn, that's making me all nostalgic and missing my NC30...

[Icemaestro]

Niice :-). It was a brilliant day!!! I have to say we were a bit jealous driving down side the track with all the bikes going past!

To mark - do you think your asking price is a little high?


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[Icemaestro]

Hey all - anyone in Wellington around today/tomorrow? Just saw a loud nc35 in castrol colours ride through Newtown - anyone on here?:-)


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[ecko_nzed]

Hey all - anyone in Wellington around today/tomorrow? Just saw a loud nc35 in castrol colours ride through Newtown - anyone on here?:-)


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Cam_valk if he's still rocking the castrol fairings

[Cam_Valk]

Nah not me, i rock stock now.

But i do know the guy in Castrol, he was a regular at a cafe i use to work at in town.
Some serious $$$$ spent on that rvf: motogadget dash, bar end indicators, as well as the fancy gravity field sensor alarm.

Not too sure if he lurks round here.

Cam

[Icemaestro]

Sweet haha


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[Chrislost]

310180

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZCm0s6rSY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pddOz045ys

I f***ing love Taupo! When is the next one?

[sil3nt]

I f***ing love Taupo! When is the next one?Next day I do at taupo will probably be a test day. The last test days for the year are 24 April and 22 May. Hampton downs is a bit closer so I tend to do that a fair bit more than Taupo.

Thanks for the rep comment about doing 45s...making me feel bad :weep:

Hope I can get below 1:50 next time I go. I seem to drop 3 seconds each time although it is quickly getting harder to find time. Sick wheelie by the way!

[sil3nt]

Thanks to Icemaestro I now have a 14T front sprocket and both a 40T and 41T rear. Running the 40 rear for HD this weekend as it was suggested I might run out of revs running a 41 rear (although with the speed I go I find it unlikely). First impression after riding home is pretty good. Didn't really get a chance to test acceleration but it is easier through traffic and it gets up my stupidly steep driveway with ease now. Can't wait to try the 41 rear I bet it will be a riot!

[Icemaestro]

Sweet! I had a 14t on the other vfr, reckon acceleration out of the corners was way better...don't remember what I had on the rear though...definitely notice now with a stock bike.

Also...got my hrc exhaust back fr vein 'ceramichromed' - aluminium ceramic polished finish...pretty happy with it - some pitting didn't come out but still all up half the price of one flat black from the uk. Going to try get it on on the weekend, wish me luck!!!


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[Autech]

Sweet! I had a 14t on the other vfr, reckon acceleration out of the corners was way better...don't remember what I had on the rear though...definitely notice now with a stock bike.

Also...got my hrc exhaust back fr vein 'ceramichromed' - aluminium ceramic polished finish...pretty happy with it - some pitting didn't come out but still all up half the price of one flat black from the uk. Going to try get it on on the weekend, wish me luck!!!


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Where bouts did you source your sproket? I am trying to track one down for the NC24. After a 14t for the front or a 47/48 for the rear. Not topping out 6th down the straight at Ruapuna plus she is a wee bit sluggish out of a few corners.

I also think I might have a 40t for a NC30 in my shed if anyone wants it.

[Icemaestro]

Rick Oliver in the UK. I'll have a look at what I pulled off the current bike when I put a new set of chain and sprockets, I have a feeling it might have been a 14t front as well. otherwise Ebay has them as well :-)

[Autech]

Rick Oliver in the UK. I'll have a look at what I pulled off the current bike when I put a new set of chain and sprockets, I have a feeling it might have been a 14t front as well. otherwise Ebay has them as well :-)

I sweet, if you got one I want it. I'm thinking the front from an NC30 should fit the 24... Does anyone want the 40t? Its in rather good nick.

[mr bucketracer]

had my bike running today , need a air filter , what do honda charge for them , million bucks?

[Icemaestro]

Does anyone have any copper exhaust gaskets in the upper north island or know where I can get one tomorrow? seems I only have 3, and would like to get my exhaust in tomorrow, provided I can get the right rear manifold nut undone! Tyga tells me universal knuckle joint and a short handled ratchet? I've been using a universal socket but the handle as well as the manifold pipe itself gets in the way - has anyone on here done this?

[Icemaestro]

Done :-) picture as to how I spent the last 8 hours or so...far out! Wish I had that socket joint first, and man, not easy getting that full exhaust lined up! Sounds like a vfr again now :-) no sewing machine here now!

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[sil3nt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sDPwnQbLKo

[mr bucketracer]

310502getting there

[mr bucketracer]

looking good Icemaestro , not a 5 min job!

[ecko_nzed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sDPwnQbLKo

Nice, always satisfying catching bigger bikes.

[sil3nt]

310502getting thereLooking good! Any idea how much it weighs?

[mr bucketracer]

Looking good! Any idea how much it weighs?my brothers is 110 kg but that has rs125 forks , wheels, swingarm in it , guess it will end up at around 125kgs , will let you know when finshed

[Icemaestro]

Does anyone in Auckland have a rattle gun with 6mm hex but that is long enough to fit the fork damper bolt that I can come over and borrow sometime? :-p would like to try before I either drill it out or take it to a mechanic


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[NAR RG500]

Does anyone in Auckland have a rattle gun with 6mm hex but that is long enough to fit the fork damper bolt that I can come over and borrow sometime? :-p would like to try before I either drill it out or take it to a mechanic


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Cut off an old hex key so its now just the longer end, then put it in a 6mm socket and either use an impact driver or a rattle gun, job done

[Icemaestro]

Fixed! Cheers. Turns out opposite of instructions - needed to wind preload in all the way and then get the hex key on it....got it off this evening with a good crack :-) just wish there was more daylight to finish the job now!

[Icemaestro]

Fork seals done and fitted rick oliver kit. From a ride round the block feels awesome..a lot stiffer, like going from a stock rear shock to an upgraded one. Also new arashi discs (discovered one of the bolts had sheeted off on the oem discs, but managed to drill it out no worries), braided lines, air filter and coolant flushed. Last to do is rick oliver road needles and she should be sorted. Can't decide whether to replace the front rocker cover with the one luke sent me - current one had a small crack, but some high temp metal epoxy sorted it, replacement one would need a paint, does anyone know where to get a high temp paint that closely matches the engine colour?


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[mr bucketracer]

a quick qestion the 3 wires to the speedo there is a red with yellow tracer , a black and white , and green , does the resistor go from black and white to red and yellow ? cheers

[Tazz]

a quick qestion the 3 wires to the speedo there is a red with yellow tracer , a black and white , and green , does the resistor go from black and white to red and yellow ? cheers

Don't fuck it up!


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[mr bucketracer]

everytime i think iv found the colours they tell you everything but what you want to know:(

[Autech]

Fork seals done and fitted rick oliver kit. From a ride round the block feels awesome..a lot stiffer, like going from a stock rear shock to an upgraded one. Also new arashi discs (discovered one of the bolts had sheeted off on the oem discs, but managed to drill it out no worries), braided lines, air filter and coolant flushed. Last to do is rick oliver road needles and she should be sorted. Can't decide whether to replace the front rocker cover with the one luke sent me - current one had a small crack, but some high temp metal epoxy sorted it, replacement one would need a paint, does anyone know where to get a high temp paint that closely matches the engine colour?


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What colour is it?

[mr bucketracer]

a quick qestion the 3 wires to the speedo there is a red with yellow tracer , a black and white , and green , does the resistor go from black and white to red and yellow ? cheersi did and works fine now:ar15:

[Icemaestro]

What colour is it?

Ford Metalic Graphite Grey is apparently the closest match, noone seems to know the honda colour code.

[Autech]

310834

Looking forward to unwrapping this!

[sil3nt]

310834

Looking forward to unwrapping this!:blink: Whats in there?

[Icemaestro]

Ditto...and where'd it come from?


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[Icemaestro]

Ahh, is it that nc30 project, the orange one from trademe that was asking a whole lot?


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[Autech]

:blink: Whats in there?

1.75 NC30s!


Ahh, is it that nc30 project, the orange one from trademe that was asking a whole lot?


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Yup, the one off KB that you said was worth $900 lol.

Plan is to get the '89 run operating as my race bike and see if I have enough to assemble the other bike into something operational, if not then I will part it out or keep it as crash spares (hopefully wont need too many of those).

Once the '89 is all race ready I will chuck the number plate back on my NC24 and use it as my road bike, or sell it not sure yet.

[Icemaestro]

Yup haha. How much did you end up paying? I love a good project!


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[Autech]

Yup haha. How much did you end up paying? I love a good project!


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Not $900, but not $1800...

Really felt for the guy he was gutted to sell, he's put a fair amount of time n money into the bike, only selling as his Mrs was giving him a hard time. His loss my gain I guess.
The bike which is all together ish does run, he thinks there is a float stuck open though so that will be the first thing I look at. Not worried about ever road registering it so the work should be minimal to get it track ready (hopefully). If you need any road parts let me know as I will have some stuff kicking around which wont be needed.

I will most likely have to stick the '89 suspension back on it to make it legal for pre '89, but I wont be quick enough for a wee while to warrant such serious measures so I should be fine to keep it in in the meantime. The CAMS club down here is pretty lax, all about racing and not about politics. I might have to look for a 17 rear at some stage but I believe I can find an 18" slick so that shouldn't be too bigger deal.

Was supposed to be here today but looking like Monday, was hoping to get stuck into it this weekend.

[Icemaestro]

Haha sweet, long as you are happy!

For the float - cotton buds (q tips, whatever you want to call them) and autosol on the brass seats as long as the rubber bit on the float needle isn't worn :-) fixed my stuck floats...re the forks - unfortunately I sold my 89 one with gold valves and race tech cartridge emulators, are you allowed cartridge forks since other bikes in the period had them?

I'd be keen on a lh switchgear if you have one?:-) that and fairing bolts lol


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[Autech]

Haha sweet, long as you are happy!

For the float - cotton buds (q tips, whatever you want to call them) and autosol on the brass seats as long as the rubber bit on the float needle isn't worn :-) fixed my stuck floats...re the forks - unfortunately I sold my 89 one with gold valves and race tech cartridge emulators, are you allowed cartridge forks since other bikes in the period had them?

I'd be keen on a lh switchgear if you have one?:-) that and fairing bolts lol


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Sweet as, yup I will be happy once it's sitting in my garage, can't wait to get out there and do a back to back comparison between the 24 and 30 on the track, apparently there is light years difference.

I get the bike and gear on Monday, I will sort through it first and find out exactly what I have there...

[sil3nt]

Tyga are now doing stock shape tail fairings in race and street.
http://tyga-performance.com/site/index.php?cPath=72_1036_83_148&osCsid=50d9425727307dcb8816cb486614edc1

Shame I already have 4 spare tail cowlings!

Autech if you have any spare indicators you are willing to part with let me know :yes:

[Autech]

Tyga are now doing stock shape tail fairings in race and street.
http://tyga-performance.com/site/index.php?cPath=72_1036_83_148&osCsid=50d9425727307dcb8816cb486614edc1

Shame I already have 4 spare tail cowlings!

Autech if you have any spare indicators you are willing to part with let me know :yes:

Any of those cowlings race ones?

I should do, I'll add that to the list of things to look for when I'm picking through it all.

[sil3nt]

Any of those cowlings race ones?

I should do, I'll add that to the list of things to look for when I'm picking through it all.I have a fibreglass single seat that has brake lights. Remove the lights and block the holes and it is a race fairing! Doesn't fit over the stock coolant tank or my larger rectifier so I will most likely sell it.

[OutTheGate]

Hey guys, gals,
I'm the proud owner of a NC30 VFR400R, its not super tidy but its a great bike and I love our adventures. I commute on it rain or shine daily a short distance as I have no other transport currently, if I did I'd rather just be on my bike...

But today the poor old girl gave up on me, the engine developed a loud knock, lost power and then died altogether. To me, it sounded like either a cracked piston, or a piston hitting the head due to big end fault.

I would like to preserve the bike if I can but if I fix it I want to do it quickly, not have it sitting around. I think a second hand powerplant is the most sensible option would members here be able to give me any advice or direction in regards to buying a motor, I'm a bit lost and haven't exactly got money to burn..

I would also be open to trading it on reliable transport, it doesn't need to be perfect, just going and legal. If anyone has anything like this, contact me with details :).
Thanks people,
Lee

[Icemaestro]

Thanks autech.

Also, I checked the sprockets I took off the bike and they are standard gearing sorry.

Silent, I have spare front indicators if it helps? Front and rear also might be the same, not sure.

Unfortunately tyga doesn't paint the nc30 stuff, I've asked!! If they did id be all over it


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[Autech]

Hey guys, gals,
I'm the proud owner of a NC30 VFR400R, its not super tidy but its a great bike and I love our adventures. I commute on it rain or shine daily a short distance as I have no other transport currently, if I did I'd rather just be on my bike...

But today the poor old girl gave up on me, the engine developed a loud knock, lost power and then died altogether. To me, it sounded like either a cracked piston, or a piston hitting the head due to big end fault.

I would like to preserve the bike if I can but if I fix it I want to do it quickly, not have it sitting around. I think a second hand powerplant is the most sensible option would members here be able to give me any advice or direction in regards to buying a motor, I'm a bit lost and haven't exactly got money to burn..

I would also be open to trading it on reliable transport, it doesn't need to be perfect, just going and legal. If anyone has anything like this, contact me with details :).
Thanks people,
Lee

Sorry to hear of your bikes engine demise...

I'm sure Icemastro will be able to point you in the right direction for the engine. Might be a case of you having to get it rebuilt though as any 2nd hand units (if you can find one) will be bought with possible issues. I do recall seeing one not so long ago on trademe though, perhaps you could contact a few wreckers and try your luck/
I have a spare motor arriving on Monday which I am not sure of its status, I will most likely end up putting it together with the rest of the bike that is in bits though depending on how it is.

[Icemaestro]

Odd re the engine - these things are pretty bulletproof. how many kms had it done, and service history? What does it do now, ie does it turn over? Engines are the only thing I don't deal with, a good person to talk to about rebuilding would be Lukemiller on here - he knows what he is doing with these engines. If you want to pay money for an excellent job (and he might have a spare engine as he has many parts) talk to AJ at motohous on college hill. There might be a chance action atomic on the shore have an engine also, as they have a couple of bits and pieces of an nc30 there inc a frame and tank, so you never know (ive never asked about an engine). The other one to ask is Gary at GP motorcycle wreckers down by tauranga, as he bought a bike of trademe a year or more ago now that he was parting out.

Hope that helps :-).

Anything other than an engine I can help with mechanically, But I've never been into the inside of these before (never needed to!). In saying that, i'm probably due for some valve clearances, but it scares me enough that unless I have someone here going over it with me with spare shims, then I'd rather give it to someone like AJ who will do a perfect job.

[OutTheGate]

Odd re the engine - these things are pretty bulletproof. how many kms had it done, and service history? What does it do now, ie does it turn over? Engines are the only thing I don't deal with, a good person to talk to about rebuilding would be Lukemiller on here - he knows what he is doing with these engines. If you want to pay money for an excellent job (and he might have a spare engine as he has many parts) talk to AJ at motohous on college hill. There might be a chance action atomic on the shore have an engine also, as they have a couple of bits and pieces of an nc30 there inc a frame and tank, so you never know (ive never asked about an engine). The other one to ask is Gary at GP motorcycle wreckers down by tauranga, as he bought a bike of trademe a year or more ago now that he was parting out.

Hope that helps :-).

Anything other than an engine I can help with mechanically, But I've never been into the inside of these before (never needed to!). In saying that, i'm probably due for some valve clearances, but it scares me enough that unless I have someone here going over it with me with spare shims, then I'd rather give it to someone like AJ who will do a perfect job.

It turns over but definitely had a major core engine fault before it stopped running. I haven't had a good look yet...
I want a second unit because of time and expense, I'm capable of building a very very good engine as that's a skill I have as a tradesman but even with my labour for free and access to a machine shop, its just far more economical to just get a second hand unit, plus the VFR is my primary transport I want to sort something out asap, you said it yourself, these motors are generally quite bulletproof.

Thanks for the leads man, I really appreciate the help since this is all a bit gutting lol.

[mr bucketracer]

year and a half and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anRwyl1UpEU

it goes lol

[Icemaestro]

awesome, sounds deafening! is that on a dyno?

So, may I ask why you are putting an nc30 engine in something? I mean, while it sounds awesome, the kawasaki engine would make a lot more power tuned...

[sil3nt]

That sounds excellent.

Bring it up to HD and giz a go :lol:

[ecko_nzed]

year and a half and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anRwyl1UpEU

it goes lol

Farkkkkk that is loud. Spitting flames too [emoji14]

[mr bucketracer]

awesome, sounds deafening! is that on a dyno?

So, may I ask why you are putting an nc30 engine in something? I mean, while it sounds awesome, the kawasaki engine would make a lot more power tuned...the nc30 is more narrow for the frames i make , you would think the kawasaki should be better but found no real diffients in the 2 , i have the kitted race cams for both and made the not to far of the same power in both, 2 hp in it for the kawasaki , i think the nc maybe more a time bomb going of somone i raced with years ago but could be to do with how well you set a engine up , yep it is a dyno

[mr bucketracer]

Farkkkkk that is loud. Spitting flames too [emoji14]moto gp (-;

[mr bucketracer]

That sounds excellent.

Bring it up to HD and giz a go :lol:would love to go there one day , hope to have it finshed for the vic winter series

[Autech]

So got my new toy all well and good, here's the details:

The bike needs from my observations a clutch cable and nothing more to get it going, will be taking the carbs off and giving them a clean out then sticking a battery on it to see if it fires up at all.

The 2nd bikes is not complete, to complete it I would need to:
Rebuild the engine or replace it
Buy a rear sub frame
Buy a full front end including clip ons, levers etc
Fairings
Gauges etc.

So not sure what I will do with the other bike whether I just part it out or try and build some sort of frankenstein beast for a laugh.

I found amongst my parts what looks like brand new head lights and indicators, anyone want?

[Icemaestro]

To me the parts there aren't ones generally in need much? Though crazy man on here might have those bits given he's done wierd things to a vfr engine :-)

I think I have a clutch cable from the uk I bought but couldn't wait so ended up getting an inner done before it arrived...where are ya?


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[Icemaestro]

Oh and your chances of getting a full front end...slim id say :-p cheaper buying a whole bike


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[Autech]

To me the parts there aren't ones generally in need much? Though crazy man on here might have those bits given he's done wierd things to a vfr engine :-)

I think I have a clutch cable from the uk I bought but couldn't wait so ended up getting an inner done before it arrived...where are ya?


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In the Chch, the shaky city. I definately will be keen for that cable, shouldn't cost too much to ship.

I might have an engine cover to match your silver, I will have a pick through, perhaps we could do a swapsy.


Oh and your chances of getting a full front end...slim id say :-p cheaper buying a whole bike


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Only if you stick a VFR front end on that is :P.

[Icemaestro]

Up to you - I'd just be keen to get close to cost back on it, flick me a pm :-). Itl at the most get Into a 4$ bag I reckon.

What do you mean re engine cover?:-)


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[Autech]

So back at the age old question, what tyres should I race the NC30 on. I thought there were 18" slicks available but my internet searches are drawing a blank. Ideally I will be sticking a 17" on the rear if I manage to snap one up before the bike is ready, but need to get an interim plan in place.

So VFR experts, what is available?

[NAR RG500]

So back at the age old question, what tyres should I race the NC30 on. I thought there were 18" slicks available but my internet searches are drawing a blank. Ideally I will be sticking a 17" on the rear if I manage to snap one up before the bike is ready, but need to get an interim plan in place.

So VFR experts, what is available?

Depends how fast ya are, 18 Bridgestone slick is no more. I use a bt090 on the 18 and it's mint for my current pace on track days. Would also like to get a 17" rim but doing more trackdays would improve my pace more than fitting a 17.

Cheers

[T.W.R]

A few ideas to play with

[Grumph]

So got my new toy all well and good, here's the details:

The bike needs from my observations a clutch cable and nothing more to get it going, will be taking the carbs off and giving them a clean out then sticking a battery on it to see if it fires up at all.

If/when you take the carbs off, buy a tube of rubber grease (brake caliper grease) as they're a right bastard to get back in. I knew an NC30 owner who regularly climbed a ladder and hung from his garage rafters, standing on the carbs to get them back in....I told his girlfriend to buy him a rubber hammer for Xmas...I've also seen the carb surround/airbox bottom with bits broken out due to overenthusiatic hammering.

[sil3nt]

Stickiest 18" tyre you can get in NZ would be the Dunlop Alpha 13s. Or a BT090 but a few of us here have tried asking around and no one seems to stock them.

I run alpha 13s on my 17" rim but will go to supercorsas once I wear them out.

[Icemaestro]

To grumph I say buy nc35 carb rubber adapter from David silver spares :-). Getting carbs on and off is no sweat with the angled lip.

To silent - does aj not have any 090's? Bits4bikes has them on the site... The alpha is a good tyre anyway :-), though not a slick - I'd have no idea about slicks, again maybe luke could help you there. The advantage to the 17" rim is more the wider tyre choice :-)


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[sil3nt]

To grumph I say buy nc35 carb rubber adapter from David silver spares :-). Getting carbs on and off is no sweat with the angled lip.

To silent - does aj not have any 090's? Bits4bikes has them on the site... The alpha is a good tyre anyway :-), though not a slick - I'd have no idea about slicks, again maybe luke could help you there. The advantage to the 17" rim is more the wider tyre choice :-)


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAh yeah they they have the 90 rear but not front. Thought it was the other way around.

[Autech]

Depends how fast ya are, 18 Bridgestone slick is no more. I use a bt090 on the 18 and it's mint for my current pace on track days. Would also like to get a 17" rim but doing more trackdays would improve my pace more than fitting a 17.

Cheers

Well as I am out every 3rd weekend racing I would like to think I am getting faster. Had a race on my NC24 yesterday and knocked a couple of tenths off my best time, still off pace from what the bike can do, but working on it every lap to get faster :)

The BT090 looked a bit hard to get a hold of when I was searching, they used to be on the cycle treads website but they aren't anymore.
There is a really sticky Avon AM23 which one of my mates is running on his 89 FZR, not sure if I can match the 17 front though as I am anal retentive and like to have matching rubber front and back.

Thanks for all your suggestions, think the 17" wheel will be the eventual plan, but if I can get something half decent on the 18 I will stick with it

[mr bucketracer]

To me the parts there aren't ones generally in need much? Though crazy man on here might have those bits given he's done wierd things to a vfr engine :-)

I think I have a clutch cable from the uk I bought but couldn't wait so ended up getting an inner done before it arrived...where are ya?


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[NAR RG500]

Well as I am out every 3rd weekend racing I would like to think I am getting faster. Had a race on my NC24 yesterday and knocked a couple of tenths off my best time, still off pace from what the bike can do, but working on it every lap to get faster :)

The BT090 looked a bit hard to get a hold of when I was searching, they used to be on the cycle treads website but they aren't anymore.
There is a really sticky Avon AM23 which one of my mates is running on his 89 FZR, not sure if I can match the 17 front though as I am anal retentive and like to have matching rubber front and back.

Thanks for all your suggestions, think the 17" wheel will be the eventual plan, but if I can get something half decent on the 18 I will stick with it


Bt090 is easy to get, ring Boyds in Hamilton, best place in the country for tyres in my opinion, they always beat cycle treads prices by far, my rear cost 200 fitted to the rim, they would send one down for you.

I have used the Dunlop 18 but far prefer the Bridgestone.

I think people get a bit carried away thinking they need this or that, I have spent a lot of time around classic racing and look at some of the odd sized and narrow tyres some of the bikes are using with great success.

Cheers

[Vinz0r]

Bt090 is easy to get, ring Boyds in Hamilton, best place in the country for tyres in my opinion, they always beat cycle treads prices by far, my rear cost 200 fitted to the rim, they would send one down for you.


I was in there earlier this year to try and find a BT090, they were very helpful, but couldn't even find one in the system to order in.

[Autech]

maybe a zxr400 front end , i mate put one in a nc30 years ago

Thats an idea, cheers!


Bt090 is easy to get, ring Boyds in Hamilton, best place in the country for tyres in my opinion, they always beat cycle treads prices by far, my rear cost 200 fitted to the rim, they would send one down for you.

I have used the Dunlop 18 but far prefer the Bridgestone.

I think people get a bit carried away thinking they need this or that, I have spent a lot of time around classic racing and look at some of the odd sized and narrow tyres some of the bikes are using with great success.

Cheers

+1 to Boyds, they are the cheapest in the country by far. I once got a quote from them when I was back home (Hamilton) visiting family for some Rosso 2's for my gixxer. Called the local rip offs (Chch dealers are wankers imo) and asked for a quote, they quoted $200 more. I said, I got a quote for $600, he's like nah, can't do that, so I'm like, here's the quote, I will get them sent down from Boyds and you can fit them. SUDDENLY they could do them at that price. Wankers.

The sport demons I am running on the 24 are an ok tyre, they give a good feel and seem alright in the wet, I'm just looking to the future when I'm faster and want a package which I will be able to push to the limit without worrying if the tyres can handle it.


I was in there earlier this year to try and find a BT090, they were very helpful, but couldn't even find one in the system to order in.

There's a chap down here who helps out all the racers, I will give him a ring and see what he can get a hold of, did me a deal as good as Boyds on some sport demons a month back, which is saying something!

[OutTheGate]

I can get an RVF motor.. possibly. As far as I can tell theres a few minor wiring loom hurdles to overcome (No biggie for me), the NC30 tachometer may be incompatible, two mounting points may require a thread to be cut and the final drive sprocket is out of alignment as the engine comes.. Is this all? It doesn't seem to bad. Is there any other things to take into consideration and can anyone provide any useful links etc.?

[sil3nt]

I can get an RVF motor.. possibly. As far as I can tell theres a few minor wiring loom hurdles to overcome (No biggie for me), the NC30 tachometer may be incompatible, two mounting points may require a thread to be cut and the final drive sprocket is out of alignment as the engine comes.. Is this all? It doesn't seem to bad. Is there any other things to take into consideration and can anyone provide any useful links etc.?Quick search found me:
NC35 engine in NC30
http://www.400greybike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=37399

NC30 engine in NC35
http://www.400greybike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=11575

Would also recommend joining this group on Facebook and asking them
https://www.facebook.com/groups/5345627304/?fref=ts

[sil3nt]

Bike hit 70,000 kms today. Gets there a bit faster with different sprockets and rear wheel size :(

[mr bucketracer]

Hi (-; , has anyone got a nc30 airbox snorkel , the one part i'm missing and seem to cause promblems in 4th gear+ , or will a sheld to stop air hitting it straght on fix it ? , the bike weighed in way more than i thought at 140 kgs )-:

[mr bucketracer]

http://i59.tinypic.com/s4qscg.jpghere it is

[Autech]

Nice bike mate. What exactly is it though???


Very productive day on Saturday, worked a bit on the NC24 which has been wobbling around going into turn 1 under brakes at Ruapuna. Hoping that the forks were a tad out of line, checked steering head bearing and they seem to be ok.

Got cracking on the NC30 with Askor, took the carbs apart and cleaned them thoroughly. They were a bit of a bitch to get off!
Odd thing we found was it appeared there was SMALLER jets than is stated as standard in the service manual. What is the standard jet size?

Racing on the 24 this weekend so wont be doing anymore on the NC30 till next weekend, hoping that with some oil, fuel and a battery that she will start up, fingers crossed!

[mr bucketracer]

the nc30 jet size between 115 - 122 depending if its a jap model or U.K model , my bike is a nc30 engine , home built frame , 93 zxr250 forks , aprilla rims , mc21 nsr250 swingarm , rs125 rear shock set for 90 kg rider , body work is home made stuff i made year ago , zxr400-rs250 half and half

[Autech]

the nc30 jet size between 115 - 122 depending if its a jap model or U.K model , my bike is a nc30 engine , home built frame , 93 zxr250 forks , aprilla rims , mc21 nsr250 swingarm , rs125 rear shock set for 90 kg rider , body work is home made stuff i made year ago , zxr400-rs250 half and half

Cheers bro! That explains it.

That is a proper frankenbike! We are looking for a spare front end for the NC30 frame and engine that is spare, don't think it will end up as hardcore as your build though!

[Icemaestro]

Autech - jap domestic market nc30's (89) came with 110 main jets originally, later they they came with 115 and 118, with uk domestic market being 118 and 120's I think...


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[Icemaestro]

http://i59.tinypic.com/s4qscg.jpghere it is

Nice! Even looks like a bike! Ridden yet?


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[Askor]

Autech's bike had 115 & 118 mains in it, with #35 pilots.
Are the sparkplugs proprietary honda parts or can you buy them from a generic auto shop? They sure are strange, I hope we wont need a special tool to get them out when we need to

[NAR RG500]

Autech's bike had 115 & 118 mains in it, with #35 pilots.
Are the sparkplugs proprietary honda parts or can you buy them from a generic auto shop? They sure are strange, I hope we wont need a special tool to get them out when we need to


The needles are also front and rear specific, buy plugs from BNT or any auto parts store you can get trade price at, plugs are easy to get out, 13mm deep reach socket and a pickup tool or needle nose pliers, or tape on socket.

Cheers

[Icemaestro]

Autech's bike had 115 & 118 mains in it, with #35 pilots.
Are the sparkplugs proprietary honda parts or can you buy them from a generic auto shop? They sure are strange, I hope we wont need a special tool to get them out when we need to

Not honda but a very odd size that cost at least about 15$/plug. Shop around - I got off Amazon last time as was cheapest at 70$ for a set. 13mm deep socket.

Sounds stock - itl run ok at those, but if there is an aftermarket system on there rec 120 r and 118 f. Keep the airbox and two flaps stock, they are there to pressurize it, and without them tends to have issues at/around 100km/h or more.


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[Grumph]

Plugs are 8mm long reach from memory. Darbi (wholesalers) have carried them in the past. Ring Budget for a price and availabilty in NZ.

[Autech]

Cheers for all the advice so far.

Got the NC24 under 2mins yesterday at Ruapuna (knocked another 5 secs off my lap time, :headbang:), improved my riding dramatically on this bike. Really enjoyed getting on it and hooning, bike was singing, had a few people coming up to me and commenting on how strong the engine is (could be that and my light weight) but it smoked a fair few bikes of similar size down the straight. Bike was moving around a bit on a few turns so I'm glad I have the NC30 lined up to step on to next.

Might look to sell the NC24 soon to fund a bucket and parts for the NC30, though gosh darn it I'm forming a real bond with her!

[Autech]

Hi all

Spent the day doing the valve clearances for the NC30. Anyone got any shims kicking around? By shuffling them around I only need 6 shims to get everything nicely within threshold.

Had a decent look at the rear shock on the bike and discovered it was a NC35 rear shock. Are these any good? I've read they are pretty shit.

[Icemaestro]

Can't help with the shims unless you want to help with my clearances ;-). Never done that job...

Re the shock, I believe better than 89 nc30 but yes worse than later nc30...though in saying that most rear shocks are probably in need of a service anyway :-). 400gb often has second hand aftermarket shocks for sale, eBay obviously. I have an aprilia rs250 shock that has been resprung and revalved I was told with ext res. and I can recommend rick Oliver's kit in the front forks - did you have early or later type forks?


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[Autech]

Can't help with the shims unless you want to help with my clearances ;-). Never done that job...

Re the shock, I believe better than 89 nc30 but yes worse than later nc30...though in saying that most rear shocks are probably in need of a service anyway :-). 400gb often has second hand aftermarket shocks for sale, eBay obviously. I have an aprilia rs250 shock that has been resprung and revalved I was told with ext res. and I can recommend rick Oliver's kit in the front forks - did you have early or later type forks?


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I have the 89 forks which I need to keep to be eligible for pre '89. I have been looking into the Rick O stuff, got a wish list which I will be buying when I get back from my trip to Canada when the $$$ free up.

I will run the RVF shock to begin with and then try and get something a bit sexier down the line. You are right though it's probably buggered anyways.

The shims weren't too hard, just have a decent magnet handy and follow the thread in 400 grey. I would recommend putting something in the head to stop shims falling down into the sump though :brick:
Not the end of the world taking the sump off though as I found a head of gunk in it, better off out of me engine :)

[sil3nt]

Anyone got a paddock stand for an NC30 for sale?

[Autech]

Anyone got a paddock stand for an NC30 for sale?

Not for sale, but I can recommend the ones made in Paeroa at House of Kustom. Not too bad a price and mine has done me well. Plus if you buy a Triumph/Ducati/*insert single sided swing arm bike here* down the line all you need to do is fabricate a wee doohicky to make it work for that bike.

[sil3nt]

Not for sale, but I can recommend the ones made in Paeroa at House of Kustom. Not too bad a price and mine has done me well. Plus if you buy a Triumph/Ducati/*insert single sided swing arm bike here* down the line all you need to do is fabricate a wee doohicky to make it work for that bike.They seem to be the only local option. Does the pin fit nicely? Seems they come with a 28mm pin for Hondas where the NC30 should have a 31.5mm pin.

[bogan]

They seem to be the only local option. Does the pin fit nicely? Seems they come with a 28mm pin for Hondas where the NC30 should have a 31.5mm pin.

What price they go for? I could use one for my RC36.

[sil3nt]

Trademe account: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=2712868
Website: http://houseofcustom.co.nz/shop/

[bogan]

Trademe account: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=2712868
Website: http://houseofcustom.co.nz/shop/

Cheers, my google-fu is shit today it seems.

I assume you mean the model without wheels, looks like you would want a reasonably tight fit on that spindle bore given how little it goes into the wheel.

[Autech]

They seem to be the only local option. Does the pin fit nicely? Seems they come with a 28mm pin for Hondas where the NC30 should have a 31.5mm pin.

It fits nicely in my NC24. He will machine it to whatever size you want I think. I have access to a lathe so I am getting one made for the NC30 rather than forking out for them to make one for me.

[Askor]

It fits nicely in my NC24. He will machine it to whatever size you want I think. I have access to a lathe so I am getting one made for the NC30 rather than forking out for them to make one for me.

Not so much 'access to a lathe' as 'I have an engineering student friend who works for food' :lol:

[bogan]

Not so much 'access to a lathe' as 'I have an engineering student friend who works for food' :lol:

Ahhh, he has caught a wild one early, treat it right and he could have a lifelong tame engineer companion...

[Autech]

Not so much 'access to a lathe' as 'I have an engineering student friend who works for food' :lol:

Aren't you supposed to be having a rib cut out or something.


Ahhh, he has caught a wild one early, treat it right and he could have a lifelong tame engineer companion...

Yes I am taming him with food and companionship: the carrot and stick method. He first approached me as wild youth, knee down around the outside of me on the Ruapuna B track on a borrowed FXR150. I had to teach him a lesson so I simply twisted the throttle and showed him the VFR power (Stick). When we spend hours in the shed working on my NC30 I throw food at him to show him that he has been a good boy (carrot). Overall I think i am making good progress: since meeting me he no longer drinks, he owns his own FXR150 and 3/4 of a NC30. He is also about to lose some weight to get faster on the track, but I do think cutting out part of your rib is very extreme, it shows his dedication to the "life".

[Askor]

Aren't you supposed to be having a rib cut out or something.



Yes I am taming him with food and companionship: the carrot and stick method. He first approached me as wild youth, knee down around the outside of me on the Ruapuna B track on a borrowed FXR150. I had to teach him a lesson so I simply twisted the throttle and showed him the VFR power (Stick). When we spend hours in the shed working on my NC30 I throw food at him to show him that he has been a good boy (carrot). Overall I think i am making good progress: since meeting me he no longer drinks, he owns his own FXR150 and 3/4 of a NC30. He is also about to lose some weight to get faster on the track, but I do think cutting out part of your rib is very extreme, it shows his dedication to the "life".

Brilliantly written :clap: :clap:

And it's not a whole rib, it's only part of it tomorrow morning ;)

[Icemaestro]

Lol. Aside from the amusing comments...recommend cartridge emulators on the 89 forks, gatch did a good job of the 89' ones on the bike I got from him, were miles better than the old 91 cartridge forks before I up rated them. Maybe had the valves done too? all is avail from rick oliver.


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[sil3nt]

Anyone got some spare pilot jets? Two are blocked and don't want to be unblocked. Soaking them overnight in carb cleaner but don't have much hope for them.

[Icemaestro]

Compressed air or a fine bit of copper wire (ie a strand from a twist of audio wire that's at least a couple inches long, and a bit of patience :-). I've had the same problems (but am now the owner of an air compressor lol).


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