VFR owners' thread, for VFRPS members and prospective members

[Icemaestro]

thanks for that. Mine dont have it fo' sho'

I'm not used to riding with clipons now, plus I have an Ohlins shock which is longer than stock. No ground clearance issues now! (well, except when standing my arse is too close to the ground ;) )

Not used to clipons? What are you usually riding?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Not used to clipons? What are you usually riding?

I havent had a sportsbike for road use for years. I'm old, yo'. And still 18 at heart.

So I am too often too tempted to wind it up. and on a sportsbike its like, first gear, second gear, third gear "Ooooh there's 180kph" and look, now I get to walk home.

Plus they're uncomfortable as fuck, you can only put one person on them etc. So I've had Honda 750's, Honda Hornet, now I have a Triumph Scrambler (its for sale too.....) and the VFR for trackday jollies. And a 125 cc scooter to go to work on (3.05l/100km!!!!)

[DrunkenMistake]

I havent had a sportsbike for road use for years. I'm old, yo'. And still 18 at heart.

So I am too often too tempted to wind it up. and on a sportsbike its like, first gear, second gear, third gear "Ooooh there's 180kph" and look, now I get to walk home.

Plus they're uncomfortable as fuck, you can only put one person on them etc. So I've had Honda 750's, Honda Hornet, now I have a Triumph Scrambler (its for sale too.....) and the VFR for trackday jollies. And a 125 cc scooter to go to work on (3.05l/100km!!!!)


Haha +1 for the scrambler, I want an older style bike like a GB 400 or something and turn it into a cafe racer or a cafe bobber.

[Icemaestro]

Is the fuel economy about the same on the scrambler as the vfr? haha nice, what kind of scooter? The wife as a suzuki AN125 which I've had to ride every so often..drives me nuts only going 90k's though :-P

[HenryDorsetCase]

Its an AN125. its hilarious. I ride it like a pushbike but I dont have to pedal, its awesome. Plus so practical round town: fit a weeks worth of groceries under the seat and in the topbox, carry all sorts of shit on it no worries, and being a 125 it is quick enough to keep up with traffic. I wouldnt have a 50: you're just a moving target.

Scrambler and VFR is about the same fuel economy for sure: the Triumph has LOUD pipes and a K & N, and been rejetted though.....

[HenryDorsetCase]

Haha +1 for the scrambler, I want an older style bike like a GB 400 or something and turn it into a cafe racer or a cafe bobber.

A GB400TT Mk 2 was the first brand new bike I ever bought.

[Icemaestro]

A GB400TT Mk 2 was the first brand new bike I ever bought.

Heh..Ya not that old then! Only about the time I was born ;-).
I've been real tempted by a cbx250rs up the road from
Me going for cheap..my first bike and it did 28-32km/l...No topbox though, that'd be awesome! The vfr underseat storage is a little limited..

[DrunkenMistake]

Heh..Ya not that old then! Only about the time I was born ;-).
I've been real tempted by a cbx250rs up the road from
Me going for cheap..my first bike and it did 28-32km/l...No topbox though, that'd be awesome! The vfr underseat storage is a little limited..

yeah its pretty crammed up with the fuse box in there, I have a question (I have a 2nd hand bike, so no luck of a tool kit) There is a small compartment on the right side (sitting on bike) under the pillion seat that sits below the subframe, what exactly is that for? seems like a real prick to get anything out of it, im always losing shit down there haha, found a 3 month old apricot that I took to work and assumed it had somehow fallen out jammed in it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Heh..Ya not that old then! Only about the time I was born ;-).
I've been real tempted by a cbx250rs up the road from
Me going for cheap..my first bike and it did 28-32km/l...No topbox though, that'd be awesome! The vfr underseat storage is a little limited..

I should have bought the CB250RS that was sold in chur chur last month with a blown motor. It was really good cosmetically and registered and warranted. An XL500 motor fits right in with minor modification.... unfortunately my cash flow last month sucked arse for little stuff like that. I spent it all on setting up new offices and crap.

[jono035]

yeah its pretty crammed up with the fuse box in there, I have a question (I have a 2nd hand bike, so no luck of a tool kit) There is a small compartment on the right side (sitting on bike) under the pillion seat that sits below the subframe, what exactly is that for? seems like a real prick to get anything out of it, im always losing shit down there haha, found a 3 month old apricot that I took to work and assumed it had somehow fallen out jammed in it.

Jafa puts a can of coke there, from memory, to have with the pie that's in the centre part of that compartment... Could never tell if he was just taking the piss or not, though :p

[PirateJafa]

Make sure that you put the can in the side compartment under the pillion seat, and the pie in the middle section. If you do it the other way around, the can can move about while you're riding and work it's way into a position where it jams the lock mechanism. Which can be rather vexing to remedy, especially while you can smell your pie, and know that it is getting cooler with each passing moment.

[jono035]

Called AJ today to see how the bike was getting on. He said that everything has arrived, so he'll be getting to it shortly.

I mentioned that someone else on KB was having problems with those fairings and AJ admitted that, had he known they were coming straight from China, he would have told me to steer well clear. He is going to leave the mudguard and rear section alone entirely and try get the front fairing fitted up. If it looks like it's all turning to shit then I'll be trying for a refund as well and maybe getting some fibreglass fairings instead.

[DrunkenMistake]

Lmao, I have had that problem with my CBR 250 when I had it, put some K under the seat and couldnt get it out :[ ..


Anyways on a different note, anyone have a spare 40k?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=383933894

[Icemaestro]

Oh yup. But apart from china/eBay, oem ex japan (cost arm leg and kidney) and tyga, where can one get fairings from? Google showed one uk site but I think Chinese probably too?

I'd rather this http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=383073233 cheaper too

[DrunkenMistake]

Oh yup. But apart from china/eBay, oem ex japan (cost arm leg and kidney) and tyga, where can one get fairings from? Google showed one uk site but I think Chinese probably too?

I'd rather this http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=383073233 cheaper too

reminds me of a zzr with a single swinger.

[sil3nt]

Oh yup. But apart from china/eBay, oem ex japan (cost arm leg and kidney) and tyga, where can one get fairings from? Google showed one uk site but I think Chinese probably too?

I'd rather this http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=383073233 cheaper toohttp://www.justfairings.co.nz/cms1/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=8

[Icemaestro]

No rear fairings on there though...

[sil3nt]

No rear fairings on there though...I am sure he will make them for ya.

[DrunkenMistake]

I am sure he will make them for ya.

When I asked he said he only does the front ones, the only other thing you could do is get the front and get a tyga rear set, their stuff is glass too. But if I were gonna do that I would get one of those badass looking ones, plus If i were gonna do that I would need alot of money for all that + paint ;[

[Icemaestro]

how difficult/expensive would it be to get fairings painted or vinyl'ed in stock vfr colours/decals? Saw a guy on here talking about the vinyl option a little while ago but no price given..

[DrunkenMistake]

how difficult/expensive would it be to get fairings painted or vinyl'ed in stock vfr colours/decals? Saw a guy on here talking about the vinyl option a little while ago but no price given..

when I get fairings my plan is to get a base colour then get vinyl's I think it was me who was jabbering about it, you can get the standard lay out, just google search it, the original scheme is vinyled on a base colour
Edit: The r/h, l/h upper and lower panels it is. Tank is painted and I believe parts of the tail is too.

[jono035]

Yeah, they only do the front which is what put me off in the first place. I wonder if there were a few of us keen to order up front whether he would consider it? No idea how much of a hassle getting the molds made and sorted is, though.

For my case, the front was the only bit that needed replacing, the back was still hanging in there, although starting to crack pretty bad.

Edit: http://justfairings.co.nz/cms1/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=17&products_id=170 has a 1-up rear section with it, so he can obviously do them. I could live without a pillion seat.

[koba]

www.racefairings.co.nz is another place to try.

His work is very good.

[HenryDorsetCase]

how difficult/expensive would it be to get fairings painted or vinyl'ed in stock vfr colours/decals? Saw a guy on here talking about the vinyl option a little while ago but no price given..

I've got a set of aftermarket fairings hanging up in my garage. it also includes a fibreglass road single seat tailpiece. the problem would be freighting them: they are big and fragile.....

[motorbyclist]

And after this professional installation - 70% of the bolts still are sticking out 'cause the holes are'nt big enough... go on - name and shame!

This shit is what puts the rest of us off so-called "professionals" at bike shops.

I'll be sure to resist the temptation of these chinese fairings in the future, too!



You guys were talking earlier about the airbox snorkel. Can someone post a pic of one?
tried it without the lid at all? just an HRC inspired idea.... they also ditch the filter IIRC


how difficult/expensive would it be to get fairings painted or vinyl'ed in stock vfr colours/decals? Saw a guy on here talking about the vinyl option a little while ago but no price given..

well over a grand.

My experiences both signwriting and working on my vfr at my uncles' panelbeating shop is that sport fairings are bastards to paint and even worse to apply vinyl. It's all the curves and holes that make paint prep and spraying a nightmare, and vinyl is a mission to alighn and then get to actually conform to the shape....


When I asked he said he only does the front ones,

I had a front from justfairings on my VFR to begin with, but stock plastic tail. I'm sure someone in NZ does race tails and cutting holes for seat and tail lights shouldn't be too difficult....

[Icemaestro]

Not sure who the 'professional' was sorry - it was organised by the raceevolution guy after I said they couldn't be fitted properly.

[jono035]

Not sure who the 'professional' was sorry - it was organised by the raceevolution guy after I said they couldn't be fitted properly.

Would be interesting to find out. Could end up being worthwhile information.

How is the process going? Heard any more?

I'm still waiting on hearing from AJ.

Anyone have any idea on what the cost of getting those fibreglass fairings painted up would be?

[koba]

Anyone have any idea on what the cost of getting those fibreglass fairings painted up would be?

Billy at www.racefairings.co.nz also paints them, his contact details are up there.

[DrunkenMistake]

Is anyone buying any probolt kits anytime soon? I need fairing bolts and if they have them screws for the radiator plastic guard, I had them all off at my parents place (Garage space) when I done the exhaust and never got around to putting them all back on till today, found out the old man had a hissy fit and kicked them somewhere so im a few screws loose, and on the bike .. Haha.

[Icemaestro]

Would be interesting to find out. Could end up being worthwhile information.

How is the process going? Heard any more?


Haven't heard a thing from him..
Worthwhile info...to stay away?:-p
I know aj is quite busy, or maybe he's having fun with them :-p

[sil3nt]

Is anyone buying any probolt kits anytime soon? I need fairing bolts and if they have them screws for the radiator plastic guard, I had them all off at my parents place (Garage space) when I done the exhaust and never got around to putting them all back on till today, found out the old man had a hissy fit and kicked them somewhere so im a few screws loose, and on the bike .. Haha.I had planned to and asked on here the other week but nobody was keen. Finding money is also a problem.

[DrunkenMistake]

I had planned to and asked on here the other week but nobody was keen. Finding money is also a problem.

Yeah, I checked out the prices and almost fell over backwards, I think my zippy ties and half ass bolts will make do for now haha..

[sil3nt]

What do you guys think an NC30 is worth for insurance purposes? Currently have mine at $4000 but to get one from a dealer would be $4500-$5500.

[HenryDorsetCase]

What do you guys think an NC30 is worth for insurance purposes? Currently have mine at $4000 but to get one from a dealer would be $4500-$5500.

they'll only pay you market if it is a total loss, but if your insurance value is less than market they pay the insured value (typically). bastards.

the premium difference between $5000 and $4000 should be fuck all, so go for more: ask them to quote.

[jono035]

they'll only pay you market if it is a total loss, but if your insurance value is less than market they pay the insured value (typically). bastards.

the premium difference between $5000 and $4000 should be fuck all, so go for more: ask them to quote.

Mine was at $4k and got dropped down automatically to $3k after a year. Went to up it back to $4k and they said they would need a valuation from a dealer before doing it... Pretty random.

[over5tayer]

Has anyone viewed this NC30 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-385095393.htm) at red baron in Mt. Maunganui? Its been on trademe for a few months and im thinking of selling my MC19 and paying the difference to get it (they said they'll let it go for $4250).

thoughts?


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[DrunkenMistake]

Looks alright,
you can have mine.. had a low side today around the round about.. Man hole covers + Cold tyres = Weeeeeeee.

Lol

[sil3nt]

Has anyone viewed this NC30 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-385095393.htm) at red baron in Mt. Maunganui? Its been on trademe for a few months and im thinking of selling my MC19 and paying the difference to get it (they said they'll let it go for $4250).

thoughts?


240924 240925Yeah that thing has been on trademe a good 6 months at least. In fact i am pretty sure it was on there last year. I never checked it out because it was always listed over $5000.

If the km's are genuine and everything looks good then $4000 is a good price from a dealer.

[Grant`]

Has anyone viewed this NC30 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-385095393.htm) at red baron in Mt. Maunganui? Its been on trademe for a few months and im thinking of selling my MC19 and paying the difference to get it (they said they'll let it go for $4250).

thoughts?


240924 240925

I have seen it, its pretty tidy looking however dunno the running condition. PM DMNTD he worked there for a while so should be able to give the low down on the bike.

[Icemaestro]

Had a reply from mr race evolution:

"First of all let me start us by stating that.

We did not offer you a professional fitting service. The rate does not deem a professional service, nor have I mentioned so. We personally did you a favor. You were insistent on we even fit the fairings for free. Please note you are yet to pay $90 for 6 hours of work that we carried out.

1. As mention on our phone call, we did not fit the front guard because your original was rubbing against the tire. Attached is a video that we took showing that.

2. I personally checked that the lock works, and the back seat did open when we tried. You can easily undo the lock up taking of the 4 screws from your image.

3. No tabs were broken off, what is the basis of this claim? We took a few millimeters off 4 individual tabs and everything fitted.

4. I mentioned to you over the phone, we spent 6 hours fitting the fairings and they do fit, it was up to you to line them up properly on your bike. We were not willing spent more than 6 hours given that compensation limit. You have simply sent me images of what we did, even though I mentioned to you that you need spend the time and line the fairings up with your bike.

5. The radiator hose and headlight are because the front sub frame is lined up to its lower limits, I would recommend you adjust that.

We have sent you 3 separate invoices and since have spend a lot of time on your order.
You paid a total of $749 for a full kit of fairings. OEM fairings would cost $400-$600 per piece if you can get them at all. By any standard you got yourself a bargain. We have had multiple customer purchase the same exact kit from the same mold and all are satisfied.

By fitting your fairings for free to date, we did you a huge favor. Most workshops charge you an hourly rate of $40, it would have set you back atleast $200.
"

1) What do yall reckon..before I pass my judgement - i've posted my previous emails to him up on here: Me saying I don't think they'll fit, can I have a refund, him saying no they fit, I'll prove it to you, we'll do them...

2) What's he going on about the front sub frame lining up? the radiator bolts on to the front sub frame does it not?, same as the front upper fairing and is not adjustable for height?

3) Where/what do I do from here?

Jono, any word from AJ yet?

:-S regretting going for the 'hey ill get it in nz, it'll be covered in case anything goes wrong' approach...

[sil3nt]

If fairings take 6 hours to fit then there is something wrong...


Guy sounds like a tosser.

From their trademe ad

We guarantee our fitting with little or no fitting adjustments Tui ad anyone?

[DrunkenMistake]

6 HOURS?!
Its a fricken Honda not a Ducati requiring one off bolts, Jesus.

Going by your pictures, this guy imports Chinese fairings, they also take the same amount of time to produce a custom set off a set of photos, and after some reading and picture viewing you have the exact same problems as the Chinese fairings

http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu298/deviant400/SDC10020.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g175/VFR400R/Bike%20pics/IMG_2736.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g175/VFR400R/Bike%20pics/IMG_2734.jpg
There is also alot of talk about the missing lugs and shit for the tail lights and so on.

[Icemaestro]

Yeah I figure for small claims court I just need something from a bike shop saying that 6h work/ the work required to fit these fairings is not a 'little or no adjustment', and maybe something about what would be required to get these to fit etc. I have all his details, and a copy of all our emails...

[DrunkenMistake]

Yeah I figure for small claims court I just need something from a bike shop saying that 6h work/ the work required to fit these fairings is not a 'little or no adjustment', and maybe something about what would be required to get these to fit etc. I have all his details, and a copy of all our emails...

I would recommend going to your local shop and explaining the situation and get them to quote how long they think it would take to remove the fairings then completely replace the fairings, and maybe if they are nice enough ask them to remove and replace and see what they say about the fit. Then you have a rather good case, My money is on these guys are drop shippers, which is illegal

[koba]

My money is on these guys are drop shippers, which is illegal

I had to google "Drop shippers".

Seems like quite a common practice. Pisses me off right and proper.

[DrunkenMistake]

I had to google "Drop shippers".

Seems like quite a common practice. Pisses me off right and proper.

If you can prove it then you have them by the balls, Trademe also states it on their terms and conditions that your not allowed to,

It bugs me more when people like Race Evo class their product as "NZ Made" when its just slit eyed bullshit.
I Emailed an Ebay seller last night as im considering taking a risk with cheap fairings, I have herd if you go with a top seller then you should be right, I only need a tail peice and belly pan as im getting a Suzuka front cowl. And basicly what he emailed back to me was word for word to whats on Race Evos site. He also said if you send him a picture he can replicate the scheme etc.

[Icemaestro]

drop shipping is only illegal on trademe though yeah? Cause I ordered through the website... Was thinking of taking it to AJ in motohous again, he was pretty good with his advice etc last time I was there, or should I go to any old bike shop?

I've got a slip on the side of the box that say they came straight from china...:weep:

[DrunkenMistake]

drop shipping is only illegal on trademe though yeah? Cause I ordered through the website... Was thinking of taking it to AJ in motohous again, he was pretty good with his advice etc last time I was there, or should I go to any old bike shop?

I've got a slip on the side of the box that say they came straight from china...:weep:

Im not sure if it is JUST trademe, look into it some more, and maybe go to someone you can trust or have had good experience with, So I would say AJ.
They used to have on their site "100% NZ made" they have removed that wording.. did they email you to say anything about them personally making the fairings etc? I would just ask for a full refund first, if they say no then take them to small claims

[DrunkenMistake]

Just read one of their Auction pieces and according to whoever sells on their trademe (im assuming its all the one person) they are moving to Dunedin, if so I may ask for a test fit..

[Icemaestro]

I asked for a full refund after first receiving the fairings - when I tried to fit them and had issues with them matching each other. This led to him saying that he believed they fit and that he would fit them for a fee. He then proceeded to do the job in the above pictures, and I have asked for a refund again, to which you see the above email. So yeah. I think it's small court time. No nothing about being made in NZ on mine, however I did just find the invoice from the chinese manufacturer with how much they cost in USD :-P want to know the cost he paid for a custom painted kit?:-P made my eyes boggle (when compared to how much he charges)...

[DrunkenMistake]

I asked for a full refund after first receiving the fairings - when I tried to fit them and had issues with them matching each other. This led to him saying that he believed they fit and that he would fit them for a fee. He then proceeded to do the job in the above pictures, and I have asked for a refund again, to which you see the above email. So yeah. I think it's small court time. No nothing about being made in NZ on mine, however I did just find the invoice from the chinese manufacturer with how much they cost in USD :-P want to know the cost he paid for a custom painted kit?:-P made my eyes boggle (when compared to how much he charges)...
Going by the chink I emailed I believe it is $20 USD for a custom paint job, and $10 USD for painted fairings or something like this.

[Icemaestro]

yeah..total he charges = 948$ NZD. Total cost from factory = 236$USD..292nzd delivered...

[DrunkenMistake]

yeah..total he charges = 948$ NZD. Total cost from factory = 236$USD..292nzd delivered...

welcome to 70% mark up.

[Icemaestro]

Lol where did you go to school? 236 x 4 = 944$....I believe 300% mark up then?

[tigertim20]

Lol where did you go to school? 236 x 4 = 944$....I believe 300% mark up then?

DM cant count. or read - he just looks at the pictures.

been reading of your woes, and youve done everything right, you were supplied a substandard kit, then gave him the opportunity to remedy it, which he has not.
as an aside, I did think your last email to him was perhaps a bit strongly worded, but his latest reply is saying in one sentence 'I have now fitted them for you', and then said 'you have to line them up your self' - but the issue was that they did not line up, so what was the point of him going anywhere near the damn things then if he had no intention of correcting the issue.

On top of that, it isnt just the actual fitting and lining up either is it, there are other problems, such as runs in the paint, and warped pieces such as around the tail section that arent even straight.


I used to own my own business, and did quite a few bike repairs, and from personal experience, the amount you have paid for the whole kit is only a couple dollars more than single OEM panels for many bikes. the last individual panels I bought for bikes were $606.50, $803.00 and $645.00. I think the old saying is that if it looks to good to be true, then it probably is, While you were gauranteed a good good product, and have a right to be pissed at the seller for not fulfilling their gaurantee, some personal responsibility needs to be taken for trying to take the cheap option. Pricing on cheap items is usually cheap for a reason.

Either way I hope you reach a happy resolution, good luck.

[jono035]

Tigertim - I hear you about the whole 'if it looks too good to be true', but then again, with automotive spares, there is a lot of leeway to produce good quality aftermarket pattern parts in most cases. Looking at this from another direction is that the chinese fairings that we were warned away from on 400GB and other forums were around $400 when I looked at them, so I was assuming something higher quality, or at least better quality assurance once it hit the country.

Icemaestro - Went and saw the bike mostly fitted up yesterday. The original rear tail pieces are a bit of a write-off as they're just crumbling. The tail fitted up ok but there were slight paint faults at the edges of the panels as well as the rear tail light brackets missing and the tail light holes being very poor. AJ has said that this particular fairing has mounted up better and looks better than most he has seen, so I think I'm just going to run with it for the moment. He is finding me a black tail mid-piece to mate up and see how that looks, because mine is quite ratty and has a broken tab anyway. The other issue noted was that the holes in the fairing around the screen are bigger than stock while the replacement screen was smaller than usual, so that's getting sorted. Check what he has done to mount to the front engine backets. AJ is going to shave some of the original bracket off and mount it in place using just the bolt rather than the bushing because the tab isn't long enough.

All in all, fun and games. I just want it over with now. Might consider trying to get some money back out of him for AJs time and to reflect that I might as well have just bought em straight from china.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I am interested to try my VFR with the stock airbox snorkel arrangement in place.

anyone got one they want to sell?

mine just has the replacement air filter, and a square slot in the front of the 'box to let the air in.

It has a slight hesitation as it goes through 10-12k rpm, so interested to see if it will smooth it out.

[DrunkenMistake]

DM cant count. or read - he just looks at the pictures.



Hes really not kidding.. :weep:

[HenryDorsetCase]

I have sourced a Mr Snorkel to try.

[Icemaestro]

Sweet, should be good, at 10-12k having the snorkel on should limit the air flow a bit yeah? stop it from running quite so lean? That made a world of difference when I put it on mine, same with RF (though his was the improvement in the lower range more)

[HenryDorsetCase]

hope so, I'm interested to try.

the fun part is riding a bike with no pretension of street legality on the road to where I can give it a whirl...... oh well.

[motorbyclist]

What do you guys think an NC30 is worth for insurance purposes? Currently have mine at $4000 but to get one from a dealer would be $4500-$5500.

depends on the insurer - do give David Golightly (http://www.golightly.co.nz/) a call; he only does bikes and is realistic (ie affordable and sensible) with premiums and payouts

the condition and mileage will cause the value to vary; I learnt the hard way with Protecta when they decided my stolen nc30 was worth what red baron would trade-in for at 58000km


Sweet, should be good, at 10-12k having the snorkel on should limit the air flow a bit yeah? stop it from running quite so lean? That made a world of difference when I put it on mine, same with RF (though his was the improvement in the lower range more)


the snorkel is not to limit airflow!

the snorkel is not to limit airflow!

the snorkel is not to limit airflow!

the snorkel is not to limit airflow!

aaaarrrghghhhhhh:ar15:

[sil3nt]

depends on the insurer - do give David Golightly (http://www.golightly.co.nz/) a call; he only does bikes and is realistic (ie affordable and sensible) with premiums and payouts

the condition and mileage will cause the value to vary; I learnt the hard way with Protecta when they decided my stolen nc30 was worth what red baron would trade-in for at 58000kmMine has done 58,000 what did they reckon yours was worth?

[Icemaestro]

aaaarrrghghhhhhh:ar15:

Haha sorry, what does it do then?:-)

[koba]

Haha sorry, what does it do then?:-)

It will probably be something to do with resonance in the airbox.

[_tui_]

Hi all,

I'm after a couple of bits so I can try out my NC30 for the first time.
Does anybody in the Auckland area have any of the following?:
- rear sprocket
- chain
- front brake lines

They don't have to be anywhere close to flash, just something cheap that'll enable me to have a bit of a play.

[DrunkenMistake]

sprockets arnt too dare from bits4bikes.co.nz same with chains, I have a front and rear but they are pretty well used. i dont have brake lines though i biffed them out
PM me if your interested

[ecko_nzed]

OK Peeps,

absolutely slutted :mad: with the tyre life I'm getting from my Conti sport attacks, and am looking at other options that will give me same grip but better tyre life. looking at Michelin Power One Streets or Pirelli Diablo. Does anyone have any opinions on these two?

Or if they are both shite, has anybody used the newer Conti Sport Attacks which are now a dual compound?

Cheers,

Andrew

[DrunkenMistake]

Depends on your budget, I think the newer battle axes are pretty recommended.

[jono035]

I've got some spare front brake lines left from when I upgraded mine. PM me if you want em.

Also have a decent front sprocket, soon a CDI, a couple of slightly ratty fairing pieces in white/red.

Edit: Ecko - what kind of tyre life are you getting at the moment, out of interest? What kind of riding?

[Icemaestro]

Went and saw AJ yesterday - saw your bike there too jono....the tabs between fairings look a hell of a lot better than mine - they fit together (badly, but at least the tabs fit behind fairings etc!) Seems to be a common fault with the mould with the front cowl being too low and hitting the headlights. Your rear section was looking pretty darn good though!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Went and saw AJ yesterday - saw your bike there too jono....the tabs between fairings look a hell of a lot better than mine - they fit together (badly, but at least the tabs fit behind fairings etc!) Seems to be a common fault with the mould with the front cowl being too low and hitting the headlights. Your rear section was looking pretty darn good though!

I bet you say that to all the boys.........


heh heh

[ecko_nzed]

Depends on your budget, I think the newer battle axes are pretty recommended.
budget is around the $500 mark, not so much the dollars, more better life out of them

Edit: Ecko - what kind of tyre life are you getting at the moment, out of interest? What kind of riding?

getting about 5000 km's out of them. Wellington based, so Rimutakas and Wairarapa account for most of it. I'd class myself as an average rider, so don't know if I'd class it as hard riding. My front tends to take a bit of a beating as I often carry too much speed into corners. I also do the occassional track day, where I try to look like I'm riding hard :tugger: and the rear gets a harder time.

[sil3nt]

budget is around the $500 mark, not so much the dollars, more better life out of them


getting about 5000 km's out of them. Wellington based, so Rimutakas and Wairarapa account for most of it. I'd class myself as an average rider, so don't know if I'd class it as hard riding. My front tends to take a bit of a beating as I often carry too much speed into corners. I also do the occassional track day, where I try to look like I'm riding hard :tugger: and the rear gets a harder time.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/tyres/auction-386367271.htm

[ecko_nzed]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/tyres/auction-386367271.htm

Is that what you use?

[sil3nt]

Haven't had to yet. Knowing me i would use the cheapest which is shinkos :weep:

[jono035]

Ice - Cool, glad you think it's a bit better. Hopefully the bike is coming along, AJ thought I might be able to have it back for the weekend, not that that'll do me any damn good...

I might see if I can do something to get the headlight subframe to sit lower if I can be bothered.

BT090s are what was on my bike when I bought it and I've done about 5000kms on it, probably 75% town, 25% open road (1 track day, 2 coro loops, a few other misc bits and pieces) and they're still holding up well, probably another 1-2000 kms in em. Don't have anything to compare them to, really, but on the track I had the pegs down a few times (suspension probably a bit tired) and never once felt insecure about grip.

[PirateJafa]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/tyres/auction-386367271.htm

What a surprise, AJ selling the best tyres you can get for the viffers? Who woulda thunk it? :P

Will want to query with him whether he has a rear in the right size though, as Ecko appears to have a RVF which would have the 17 inch rear, not the 18.

[sil3nt]

What a surprise, AJ selling the best tyres you can get for the viffers? Who woulda thunk it? :P

Will want to query with him whether he has a rear in the right size though, as Ecko appears to have a RVF which would have the 17 inch rear, not the 18.17's are 3 million times easier to find than 18's.

[jono035]

17's are 3 million times easier to find than 18's.

Yeah, but if he is specialising in VFRs, he may only have the BT090s in 18. Will sure as hell have something in 17, though.

That said, Wellington to Auckland is a hell of a long way to go for a set of tires :p

[DrunkenMistake]

17's are 3 million times easier to find than 18's.

Tell me about it! :L

[Cam_Valk]

Hey guys. Thinking of buying a RVF400R.
Had a test ride, and noticed a flat spot in the powerband at around 8k rpm.
The bike on idle was fluctuating in rpm.

Now the seller says this is normal.
I know this is a carb problem.

My question is, are his comments valid?
Those who owned and ridden RVFs, please contribute.
As I am seriously thinking of purchasing it.

Thanks
Cameron.

[DrunkenMistake]

Hey guys. Thinking of buying a RVF400R.
Had a test ride, and noticed a flat spot in the powerband at around 8k rpm.
The bike on idle was fluctuating in rpm.

Now the seller says this is normal.
I know this is a carb problem.

My question is, are his comments valid?
Those who owned and ridden RVFs, please contribute.
As I am seriously thinking of purchasing it.

Thanks
Cameron.

Could need a rejet, standard pipe?
otherwise there is a mid range flat spot on the VFR 400, im not sure if it reflects on the RVF though.

[Cam_Valk]

Could need a rejet, standard pipe?
otherwise there is a mid range flat spot on the VFR 400, im not sure if it reflects on the RVF though.

It was the standard pipe on it.
But on the test ride, the power on didnt seem smooth or consistent.
Is this the way it should be?

[sil3nt]

It was the standard pipe on it.
But on the test ride, the power on didnt seem smooth or consistent.
Is this the way it should be?Never ridden an RVF but my VFR is very smooth revving through the range. I don't notice any flatspots. It also idles steady at around 1500 (i think). The RVF has different carbs but it shouldn't be that different. Maybe this video could help? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DwGC7pRXpo

[DrunkenMistake]

Never ridden an RVF but my VFR is very smooth revving through the range. I don't notice any flatspots. It also idles steady at around 1500 (i think). The RVF has different carbs but it shouldn't be that different. Maybe this video could help? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DwGC7pRXpo

Mine idles at 1,250 but I have started getting problems in the morning so Iv clicked it up to 1700ish

[Icemaestro]

Hey guys. Thinking of buying a RVF400R.
My question is, are his comments valid?
Those who owned and ridden RVFs, please contribute.
As I am seriously thinking of purchasing it.

that the one in trademe at the moment? 'never been down the road' but has replaced indicators?:-p

Hmm you would think that a carb balance would be done at the same time as the vale clearances..

[Cam_Valk]

Hey.
Yea its the RVF on trademe at the moment.
Indicators have indeed been replaced.

5 previous owners, last one was a mechanic at motorad.
There are signs of a low speed drop on the right side, can be visible on the fairings but hard to see in the pictures.

And as i said earlier, weird idle fluctuations, flatspot in the powerband, and a few scratches in places.

[sil3nt]

I would get a decent VFR over an average RVF for what he is asking.

[jono035]

The VFRs at least are notorious for a flat spot at 5-7k RPM, with power coming on quick and smooth after that all the way to redline. No lumpyness at 1500rpm idle, either (oh how I miss that sound...).

Stock airbox/filter? I've heard bad things about people having issues after hacking up the airbox or replacing filters.

Otherwise it'll be a carb problem. A good clean out of all the jets/passages and then get it balanced, right as rain.

[ecko_nzed]

Hey guys. Thinking of buying a RVF400R.
Had a test ride, and noticed a flat spot in the powerband at around 8k rpm.
The bike on idle was fluctuating in rpm.

Now the seller says this is normal.
I know this is a carb problem.

My question is, are his comments valid?
Those who owned and ridden RVFs, please contribute.
As I am seriously thinking of purchasing it.

Thanks
Cameron.

Mine doesn't have a standard pipe or jetting and runs like a bag of hairy assholes down low, it's particularly bad around 7-8k in the rev range. I've had it tuned by moto mart and they did a really good job. It is definitely not as smooth or as strong down low as a couple of VFR's I've ridden with, but once you get past 8k it starts to pull away.

If that's the one I think it is, it may pay to check the rear wheel, as I think it has a 18 inch rear off a vfr (not a huge thing, but limits your choice of rubber more). I let Dane (friendly american or canadian guy?) ride my RVF back when he had a motard, but he said wasn't that keen on them, then next time I see him, he's riding this one? :scratch:

If you do buy, give me a shout and we'll go for a ride :scooter:

[Cam_Valk]

Yea i think its the same guy.

Funny he didn't mention the 18 inch rear wheel.
He still has a Ducati Motard from what he told me.

Any chance i can check out your Rvf, and have a wee chat about it in person?

Thanks
Cam

[ecko_nzed]

I would get a decent VFR over an average RVF for what he is asking.

4k for an RVF is pretty bloody good in my book. mind you, that's what I paid for mine and had to spend another couple of grand getting it road legal :crybaby:

[ecko_nzed]

Yea i think its the same guy.

Funny he didn't mention the 18 inch rear wheel.
He still has a Ducati Motard from what he told me.

Any chance i can check out your Rvf, and have a wee chat about it in person?

Thanks
Cam

PM sent...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yea i think its the same guy.

Funny he didn't mention the 18 inch rear wheel.
He still has a Ducati Motard from what he told me.

Any chance i can check out your Rvf, and have a wee chat about it in person?

Thanks
Cam

an RVF with an 18 off an NC30? thats odd. Then again I have an NC30 with an RVF 17 inch rear wheel: maybe youve ended up with my old wheel?

[Cam_Valk]

I just asked the guy. And it turns out it is indeed an 18" wheel.
That's a bit odd. Any advantages to a slightly bigger wheel?

[HenryDorsetCase]

I just asked the guy. And it turns out it is indeed an 18" wheel.
That's a bit odd. Any advantages to a slightly bigger wheel?

massive disadvantage.

it will raise the rear ride height which might make it squirrelly in the front. having said that the shock is nearly 20 years old if it is stock so its probably all saggy arsed anyway. Wonder if it has the correct linkage in it?

big issue is tyres. It is more difficult to find supersports rubber in 18 than 17.

I use Dunlop GPR Alphas but mine is a trackday only toy, no road use.

[jono035]

That's odd, I thought the 2 had the same overall diameter, just that the 18" used a lower profile tire...

Edit: Nope, stock sizes are 150/60/17 and 150/60/18 apparently. So, half an inch higher ride height.

[DrunkenMistake]

HELP
hey guys,
I have LED indicators and I have the front ones fitted, as my Stock one blew a bulb and I already had the LED's sitting about,
So I brought a shitty Ebay 3 pin relay and gave it a shot, it worked sweet when the bike wasnt running,
Started the bike up they flashed hard out for a second then stopped completely, So I figured fuck it ill buy a decent relay etc etc, anyways I got sold a 2 pin relay and the joker told me "this will do the trick you dont need that 3 pin bullshit blah blah" so I took it home, never got round to installing it as I had whipped the old relay back in and left it at that, anyway Im a bit sick of my hypo flashing indicators so I tried installing this 2 pin relay and no matter which was or whatever set up I installed it, (might be possible I done the same one more than once, thus why im posting this) it popped a fuse. Can someone PLEASE Help me out here, pictures or walkthrough or something would be FAN-TAS-TIC.

[jono035]

HELP
hey guys,
I have LED indicators and I have the front ones fitted, as my Stock one blew a bulb and I already had the LED's sitting about,
So I brought a shitty Ebay 3 pin relay and gave it a shot, it worked sweet when the bike wasnt running,
Started the bike up they flashed hard out for a second then stopped completely, So I figured fuck it ill buy a decent relay etc etc, anyways I got sold a 2 pin relay and the joker told me "this will do the trick you dont need that 3 pin bullshit blah blah" so I took it home, never got round to installing it as I had whipped the old relay back in and left it at that, anyway Im a bit sick of my hypo flashing indicators so I tried installing this 2 pin relay and no matter which was or whatever set up I installed it, (might be possible I done the same one more than once, thus why im posting this) it popped a fuse. Can someone PLEASE Help me out here, pictures or walkthrough or something would be FAN-TAS-TIC.

Can you throw together a crappy little diagram in ms paint or something to show what you've got connected to where? My Haines manual has a full wiring diagram in it that I can check against.

[DrunkenMistake]

Cant really be assed pulling the panel off to get the correct wire colours, but the original relay had a plug that was connected to the three wires, it then plugged into the relay itself.

The new relay is marked with..( looking down) L at the top and + on the side prong

[DrunkenMistake]

Stock relay
http://www.whitedogbikes.com/ccp51/media/images/product_detail/BikeS/nc30/1/nc30-3314-s.jpg

My relay
http://coastalbatterieswholesale.com/12-volt-2-pin-electronic-l.e.d-flasher-68249bl.html

It shows on the third picture it has to go from the switch to the battery.. but without undoing my entire loom, I would assume it was two of the three wires originally there

[DrunkenMistake]

http://ritz.webng.com/manuals/honda/vfr400nc30.jpg
may have figured it out, looks like green is earth which I shouldnt need........


Will be back in 40 mins! lmao.

[gatch]

massive disadvantage.

it will raise the rear ride height which might make it squirrelly in the front. having said that the shock is nearly 20 years old if it is stock so its probably all saggy arsed anyway. Wonder if it has the correct linkage in it?

big issue is tyres. It is more difficult to find supersports rubber in 18 than 17.

I use Dunlop GPR Alphas but mine is a trackday only toy, no road use.

Rubbish. 12.7mm lift in the rear will not make it "squirelly". Lifting the rear ride height is one of many recommended mods to be done on the NC30.

As an aside my current hoops are GPRA-12 front and rear. Mileage is fuckin hopeless, especially with the saggy arsed stock suspension. A 12 on the front and a 10 on the back maybe slightly better (mileage).

[DrunkenMistake]

argh..
Verdict = No matter what way or in which Order I done it, nothing happened.
Da fuck am I doing wrong!?

UPDATE


Basicly so I just found out, If I can find the ebay relay, all I need to do is remove the dash indicator light to separate the left and right circutes, and it will be solved...

Now to find the relay.. fml

[koba]

17's are 3 million times easier to find than 18's.

18s are easy to find and you can still get stick rubber in a variety of widths and profiles.
I have a 16 inch front, that's a problem!

[jono035]

argh..
Verdict = No matter what way or in which Order I done it, nothing happened.
Da fuck am I doing wrong!?

UPDATE


Basicly so I just found out, If I can find the ebay relay, all I need to do is remove the dash indicator light to separate the left and right circutes, and it will be solved...

Now to find the relay.. fml

You shouldn't be able to pop a fuse using the 2-pin relay at all, even if the thing was completely forked, it would still just be indicators on or off, depending on how it died. This would even be if you connected it backwards.

It sounds like if you're popping fuses with it, it's getting connected between +12v and ground rather than +12v and load. If you turn the bike and indicators on, you should be able to put a piece of wire between the +12V pin and load pin of the relay connection and have the indicators just come on solid. If the fuse blows, replace it and try doing the same thing between +12V and the other relay pin. That'll tell you which one is actually connected to the lights.

Edit: Also, do you know if the LED indicators need an external ballast resistor at all? Some of them are just the LEDs and as such need an external resistor to stop the current going too high through them.

[DrunkenMistake]

Sorted,
Idk why I popped a fuse in the beginning, but my 2pin relay was fucked so I borrowed one off Hayd3n, worked, but all four lit up and it didnt flash, took the dash light out for the indicators and they lit up one the correct side, no flash.. dug out the ebay one, hooked it up (3pin) put the dash light back in, and same problem, solid light, took the light out of the dash.. and away we go! im flashing properly and all on the correct side, now im without a dash light lmao

[Cam_Valk]

Well.
Turns out all i could think about for the last few days was the RVF.
So i bought it.

Proud Member of the V4 Club.
(Not sure about the sound though...)

[Luckylegs]

(not sure about the sound though...)

wtf....!!!

...thats the whole point!!!!

[DrunkenMistake]

wtf....!!!

...thats the whole point!!!!

FUCK YES

V4 + Cam gears = ORGASM

[jono035]

Shit yeah, the sound. Hadn't heard mine running in over a month, walked in right as AJ was firing it up to balance the carbs.

Stood there grinning like an idiot for a minute or 2.

[DrunkenMistake]

Shit yeah, the sound. Hadn't heard mine running in over a month, walked in right as AJ was firing it up to balance the carbs.

Stood there grinning like an idiot for a minute or 2.

haha nice, have you got your fairings on yet?

[ecko_nzed]

Well.
Turns out all i could think about for the last few days was the RVF.
So i bought it.

Proud Member of the V4 Club.
(Not sure about the sound though, standard pipe is too quiet. Need a louder one so I can share that sweet sweet V4 gear driven music with the rest of the world...)

Fixed it :laugh:

[Cam_Valk]

Fixed it :laugh:

Ah of course thats what i was trying to say.

[Icemaestro]

Shit yeah, the sound. Hadn't heard mine running in over a month, walked in right as AJ was firing it up to balance the carbs.

Stood there grinning like an idiot for a minute or 2.

if you don't mind me asking, what vaguely did he end up charging for fitting your fairings / the carb balance? And what do you reckon about your fairings? Looking pretty good ay? Just the lining up of the front cowel/ front and side fairings ay? As well as the paint runs...

My vfr could do with a proper balance and adjusting of the mixture screws (currently set at stock but modified pipe on there and running 122 and 118 jets) - I can't remember from my last carb balance on a cbr, but is this adjustment usually done when balancing the carbs? (or do mechanics have to take the carbs off to do this)

[DrunkenMistake]

if you don't mind me asking, what vaguely did he end up charging for fitting your fairings / the carb balance? And what do you reckon about your fairings? Looking pretty good ay? Just the lining up of the front cowel/ front and side fairings ay? As well as the paint runs...

My vfr could do with a proper balance and adjusting of the mixture screws (currently set at stock but modified pipe on there and running 122 and 118 jets) - I can't remember from my last carb balance on a cbr, but is this adjustment usually done when balancing the carbs? (or do mechanics have to take the carbs off to do this)
Im hoping to rejet this week once I find out the internal and outer dimensions of the washers on the needles (need to add 0.5mm washer to each needle, might just replace the current 0.5 with a 1mm instead though) then im getting it balanced, Rick at MCR gave me a great tip to save myself money on the labour costs if I took it into him, said about adding the hoses etc and running them to the pillion seat marked so all they have to do is remove the tank and do the rest, instead of remove the lot, or something like that haha, I need to go and see him again as I forgot already but ya know ;)

[jono035]

Yeah, the fairings have been fitted up and look OK, nothing spectacular. The problem with mine is that I was coming from pretty well past-it fairings (cracked and disintegrating), so I've really just traded to a different kind of general rattyness.

I have no idea at all what AJ is charging me to fit them up, because I'm getting about 100 other things done because it started as an insurance claim. If you give him a buzz, he'll have a pretty solid idea of what it's likely to take, I'd think.

It's getting up there costwise pretty quick but that's new clutch lever, perch, bars, left clip-on mount, brake M/C swapped for better, triple clamps adjusted, new mirror stay fitted (including drilling out and replacing old fucked rivnut), idle mix adjusted, carbs balanced, exhaust split welded, bottom exhaust clamps re-fabbed, can polished and split weld fixed, new screen... Oh, new air-filter because the tray on mine is cracked (wtf?!).

Bugger balancing the carbs on those things yourself. I watched AJ do it and what a pain in the ass. Running hoses out sounds like a decent idea, but I'd just take the fairings off probably before riding it in. The rest will barely take him 5 minutes and saves needing the fittings etc. It's the adjustment that is the real killer, you really need the bike up on a bench and his magic right-angle screwdriver is helpful...

122 and 118 sounds fine for the jets. From memory, stock was 118 and 115. I think I'm running 122 and 120 at the moment.

[DrunkenMistake]

Just done the jets on the bike,

Found that the front left emission tube has been over tightened by the previous, and has split where the thread is, so I left it like that but changed the Jet, added a 0.5mm washer to all the needles and adjusted the pilot jets, it sounds rough, and now it has a super flat spot at about 11grand to 12.5grand..
Im about ready to sell this bike on ae haha nothing but trouble.

[jono035]

Just done the jets on the bike,

Found that the front left emission tube has been over tightened by the previous, and has split where the thread is, so I left it like that but changed the Jet, added a 0.5mm washer to all the needles and adjusted the pilot jets, it sounds rough, and now it has a super flat spot at about 11grand to 12.5grand..
Im about ready to sell this bike on ae haha nothing but trouble.

That flat spot, does it pick back up afterwards or is that where you're shifting?

When you had the carbs apart, did you go through and give everything a solid cleaning? Carb cleaner down all the passages etc.? Have they been balanced?

I can't remember if you said where you're located? Anywhere near Auckland? AJ would be absolutely the one to sort out any carb issues.

Rode mine home today finally, I quite liked the ultra-aggressive sound of it with the exhaust leak, but it's back to having that beautiful deep burble... mmmmm... That and with the exhaust being quieter, I can hear the gears again.

[DrunkenMistake]

it struggles to run through it, but once you get past 12.5 it continues like normal, I didnt do carb cleaner down all the little points etc, the only other thing needing done is a balance, its a lil uneasy on idle as well but I think that was my own doing when adjusting the pilot screws, no biggy there,

Im going to try get some JB weld and an air grinder and try and JB weld where its split in the float bowl around the threaded hole for the emission tube, I dont know if this is the cause of the problem, I sure hope so.
Everything that has been done on this bike, something has gone wrong afterwards haha, I think ill get this problem solved then flick it off .. the wallet is dry and if I cant afford to get it into a shop and I dont have any other means of transport :L

[koba]

it struggles to run through it, but once you get past 12.5 it continues like normal

Have you tried putting it back to how it was?
It sounds like its now running too rich, that'll be those washers.

With the repair thing do you mean the float bowl is cracked because it was screwed on the the brass tub parts poking out too far?
If this is the case carefully applied JB weld should fix it well.

[DrunkenMistake]

Have you tried putting it back to how it was?
It sounds like its now running too rich, that'll be those washers.

With the repair thing do you mean the float bowl is cracked because it was screwed on the the brass tub parts poking out too far?
If this is the case carefully applied JB weld should fix it well.

Where the main jet screws into is the emission tube, the part where the tube screws into is cracked due to the previous over tightening.
Its possible its to rich, Im going to remove the washers and give it another twirl tomorrow if I get a chance, I also have my insurance company possibly coming out to assess my fairings etc.

[koba]

Where the main jet screws into is the emission tube, the part where the tube screws into is cracked due to the previous over tightening.
Its possible its to rich, Im going to remove the washers and give it another twirl tomorrow if I get a chance, I also have my insurance company possibly coming out to assess my fairings etc.

Ahh, I see. Careful use of the JB may do it.

Make sure everything sits at the correct height.

[DrunkenMistake]

Ahh, I see. Careful use of the JB may do it.

Make sure everything sits at the correct height.

i may take it to one of my mates im a bit of a rough cunt ae haha,
wont be today as i forgot it was my bday (doh!)

[imdying]

Just done the jets on the bike,

Found that the front left emission tube has been over tightened by the previous, and has split where the thread is, so I left it like that but changed the Jet, added a 0.5mm washer to all the needles and adjusted the pilot jets, it sounds rough, and now it has a super flat spot at about 11grand to 12.5grand..
Im about ready to sell this bike on ae haha nothing but trouble.Nothing but trouble? Maybe you should consider taking a less half arsed approach? If I found a fucked emulsion tube or carb, I'd replace it... how can you expect it to perform correctly if you're not even doing the bare basics correctly?

/edit: If ya dig? I mean, if you try to make a jam sandwich from two slices of bread and some shite, it'll always taste funny... Carbs are sensitive to small things, fix anything that's obviously wrong before worrying about fine tuning, otherwise you might spend forever on something you can't actually fix

[DrunkenMistake]

Rant.

10 Char

[imdying]

Yeah, a bit of, but I've seen a lot of people chase their tails unnecessarily, no reason you should be the next one.

[Icemaestro]

dude, I have a spare set of carbs that have bits and pieces missing, I'm happy to send stuff down if you pay postage and 5$ or something...

[DrunkenMistake]

dude, I have a spare set of carbs that have bits and pieces missing, I'm happy to send stuff down if you pay postage and 5$ or something...

That would be fantastic, I think I need the carb bodies or something like this, Will get to you next week, I have dropped it into the shop after careful consideration,
I struck a deal to pay the first 50% and then pay the rest off (thank god) while im there ill get a Dyno read out as well as a balance and tune etc, but they are going to get back to me about the carbs wither or not its repairable or needing replaced, I will PM you once I find out, thanks again man.

[DrunkenMistake]

how much do you want for the lot Man? just got off the horn I need carb bodies but I mentioned what you had just said and the fella recommended I just got the whole thing off ya

[rustys]

Koba, I'am just putting the RVF 400 back together, do you have torque settings for,
Rear axle nut.
Front axle nut.
Front fork pinch bolts.
Cheers Russ.

[DrunkenMistake]

Koba, I'am just putting the RVF 400 back together, do you have torque settings for,
Rear axle nut.
Front axle nut.
Front fork pinch bolts.
Cheers Russ.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/10556-Lotsa-manuals-online
I think there is a PDF manual for RVF's in there somewhere that will say.

[Icemaestro]

Koba, I'am just putting the RVF 400 back together, do you have torque settings for,
Rear axle nut.
Front axle nut.
Front fork pinch bolts.
Cheers Russ.

Not entirely sure so just going by Haynes manual says: steering stem nut 140nm, top yoke fork clamp bolts 11nm, rear wheel bearing holder pinch bolt 55nm. Torque settings not specified ate 5nm for 5mm bolt, 10nm for 6mm bolt, 22nm for 8mm bolt, 35nm for 10mm bolt, 55nm for 12mm bolt. Different torque settings for flange bolts and flange bolts with different sized heads. Should be in the PDF manual though

[Harvd]

Koba, I'am just putting the RVF 400 back together, do you have torque settings for,
Rear axle nut.
Front axle nut.
Front fork pinch bolts.
Cheers Russ.

From memory so others feel free to correct me

120 nm
60 nm
22 nm (???)

[rustys]

From memory so others feel free to correct me

120 nm
60 nm
22 nm (???)

Thanks for that, Harvd

[Icemaestro]

To all you nc30 owners out there:

My nc30 has a rs250 rear shock, pre load and damping adjustment. It has raised the rear by a good bit too. I'm looking to so if anyone has an nc30 shock with preload and damping adjustment, remote reservoir and stock linkages that they want to swap for mine. It's great for cornering etc but I'm a little short and would love a slightly lower seat..if you're keen, pref in auckland or near but not too fussed, let me know, cheers.

[DrunkenMistake]

To all you nc30 owners out there:

My nc30 has a rs250 rear shock, pre load and damping adjustment. It has raised the rear by a good bit too. I'm looking to so if anyone has an nc30 shock with preload and damping adjustment, remote reservoir and stock linkages that they want to swap for mine. It's great for cornering etc but I'm a little short and would love a slightly lower seat..if you're keen, pref in auckland or near but not too fussed, let me know, cheers.

Im to short myself, I wanted one of those Tyga tail units but the supplied subframe raises the seat height but 20mm... to high! haha, Thanks for sending that stuff too, Hopefully it arrives tomorrow

[koba]

Koba, I'am just putting the RVF 400 back together, do you have torque settings for,
Rear axle nut.
Front axle nut.
Front fork pinch bolts.
Cheers Russ.

Sorry mate! I was way slow on that!

I'm a shocke when it come to correct tourque settings anyway, the settings in my head for those would be Tight, Quite tight, a wee bit tight.

[koba]

To all you nc30 owners out there:

My nc30 has a rs250 rear shock, pre load and damping adjustment. It has raised the rear by a good bit too. I'm looking to so if anyone has an nc30 shock with preload and damping adjustment, remote reservoir and stock linkages that they want to swap for mine. It's great for cornering etc but I'm a little short and would love a slightly lower seat..if you're keen, pref in auckland or near but not too fussed, let me know, cheers.

If you don't manage to tee up a swap deal and want to sell the RS250 shock PM me.

[jaffaonajappa]

LOL. Shot bro. U adopted?

[Icemaestro]

If you don't manage to tee up a swap deal and want to sell the RS250 shock PM me.

Would be keen but AJ at motohaus has offered to swap it out for me for free, and being in auckland a little easier!:-) cheers though!

[sil3nt]

Passed its first warrant :woohoo:

Did need a wire in the tail lights put in and the steering bearing tightened but it passed in the end!

[DrunkenMistake]

Passed its first warrant :woohoo:

Did need a wire in the tail lights put in and the steering bearing tightened but it passed in the end!

Nice!,

I just got my bike back from the shop today, 99% perfect, the only flaw is the air filter, needs a new one as the one in it apparently isnt the correct one that and my tail light bulb has blown

[sil3nt]

Nice!,

I just got my bike back from the shop today, 99% perfect, the only flaw is the air filter, needs a new one as the one in it apparently isnt the correct one that and my tail light bulb has blownI thought mine had blown as well and so did the mechanics. Just a loose wire in the end.

[DrunkenMistake]

I thought mine had blown as well and so did the mechanics. Just a loose wire in the end.

im gonna look at getting a Ducati 916 LED tail light,
they fit in all you need is to make up some brackets and adjust the angle a fraction to have them fit, I have also herd that the 916 tail unit fits right onto the nc30 subframe

[sil3nt]

What you really want is a 916 front end :yes:

[DrunkenMistake]

What you really want is a 916 front end :yes:

I wouldnt mind maoring up a 749 front end... nom nom nom..

All good thats gonna be my next bike anyways haha

[koba]

What you really want is a 916 front end :yes:

And rear end.

And middle end...

[racefactory]

What fuel economy are you guys getting on your bikes? L/100km or km/L?

[Icemaestro]

Hit 21-21.5km/L the last two fill ups :-) pretty proud of myself!

[Cam_Valk]

14-15km/L.
But there are some definite issues with my bike.

[racefactory]

Hit 21-21.5km/L the last two fill ups :-) pretty proud of myself!

I think we got that bike running pretty damn good in the end mate. Is it still hanging on idle?

[Icemaestro]

haha yeah :-) almost happy with it;-) heh.

Went riding for about 3 hours on and off the last couple days, so much better with the lower shock - and the shock he put in is mint condition ay - the stock 92 one with damping and remote reservoir, preload adjustment...dropped the rear by another 2cm or so (haven't adjusted preload yet either) bit more comfortable!!

Just need a paint job for my spare tank and maybe fix the fairings, and it'd be mint! oh and maybe a stock footpeg for the right side to match my stock one on the left now :-D haha. Perfectionist...

[DrunkenMistake]

how do you work out the km per litre ? :facepalm:

[Icemaestro]

oh yeah, and the carbs..yeah still hanging on idle...haven't had the carbs done yet...AJ would do them for 180 or so for me though :-)...and having owned about 35 of em over the years (yes, someone who has owned more of them than you!)

[Icemaestro]

I have an app that tracks my fuel usage...otherwise a calculator...fill up to top, reset speedo, ride, fill up again, go km/s travelled divided by Litres put in tank...aka 210/10L or something like that...

[DrunkenMistake]

I have an app that tracks my fuel usage...otherwise a calculator...fill up to top, reset speedo, ride, fill up again, go km/s travelled divided by Litres put in tank...aka 210/10L or something like that...

in that case mine would be 15km/l but i do alot of quick pass short riding to commute, but I get far better economy over distance plus I need a new air filter and plugs.

[racefactory]

how do you work out the km per litre ? :facepalm:

Fill it to the top to an accurate set point like filler neck, reset the km counter and ride it, then fill it to the same point and do the math.

[racefactory]

oh yeah, and the carbs..yeah still hanging on idle...haven't had the carbs done yet...AJ would do them for 180 or so for me though :-)...and having owned about 35 of em over the years (yes, someone who has owned more of them than you!)

Just turn all the pilot screws rich half a turn- easy. No need to hand over hard earned $

[koba]

What fuel economy are you guys getting on your bikes? L/100km or km/L?

Terrible.
I think my tank is 15L and I get 220km at the most.
I'l leave the rest of the maths to you.

Oh, Its an NC 21 and well worn.

[koba]

how do you work out the km per litre ? :facepalm:
You should learn to think for yourself, it will serve you well in the future.

I have an app that tracks my fuel usage...otherwise a calculator...fill up to top, reset speedo, ride, fill up again, go km/s travelled divided by Litres put in tank...aka 210/10L or something like that...
An app?
I hope you are taking the piss...

Fill it to the top to an accurate set point like filler neck, reset the km counter and ride it, then fill it to the same point and do the math.
The math...
Now that I have shot my mouth off about thinking I should do my own math...
Naa, fuggit, all I need to know is It's still heaps better than the van.

[DrunkenMistake]

The math...
Now that I have shot my mouth off about thinking I should do my own math...
Naa, fuggit, all I need to know is It's still heaps better than the van.

You strike me as a van owner..

No windows?
Free candy sign?
243309

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hey, thats MY van! wtf???!??!

[Icemaestro]

[QUOTE=koba;1130113844
An app?
I hope you are taking the piss...[/QUOTE]

Haha nope :-p quite handy actually - use it for the business side of things (self emplyed) tracks expenses and can do % of expenses etc that I then plug into my vehicle expenses for the business... its also been quite handy to see the fuel consumption decrease on the bike as I've been getting things sorted on it (started out at 9km/L when I first got it!

[rustys]

After purchasing of Trade Me Several months ago, in a neglected condition, and lots of hours cleaning her up, i have finally got this little beauty up looking good, with some extra aftermarket bits thrown in. Can't wait to go for a ride.


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[HenryDorsetCase]

nice job! 10 characters

[koba]

You strike me as a van owner..

No windows?
Free candy sign?
243309

I have a 1/3rd share in a van that cost $300.
It's not as classy as your pic.

While that is funny the target audience of the sign may not yet have learnt to read.

[koba]

After purchasing of Trade Me Several months ago, in a neglected condition, and lots of hours cleaning her up, i have finally got this little beauty up looking good, with some extra aftermarket bits thrown in. Can't wait to go for a ride.


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Fantastic!

[tigertim20]

[QUOTE=rustys;1130114124]After purchasing of Trade Me Several months ago, in a neglected condition, and lots of hours cleaning her up, i have finally got this little beauty up looking good, with some extra aftermarket bits thrown in. Can't wait to go for a ride.


shitthats a nice job, youve done well!:yes:

[racefactory]

Nice. Loving the rim stickers.

[Cam_Valk]

That is probably the tidiest RVF400 i have seen.
Hoping for mine to turn out a bit like that.

How do you find the Tyga Exhaust?
Did you get the full system or just the can?

[Thaeos]

Damn that is a nice bike, exactly what I'm looking for. I'm just waiting until something that good comes up on trademe really..

[rustys]

That is probably the tidiest RVF400 i have seen.
Hoping for mine to turn out a bit like that.

How do you find the Tyga Exhaust?
Did you get the full system or just the can?

No i got just the Can, and it sounds real awesome nice V4 sound, far better than the original one.
Tyga has some nice aftermarket bits for the Honda bikes but i dont want to over dress it, just want to keep it as original as i can, i believe these bikes will increase in value over time, i was told that by a mate of mine who collects certain Honda models.

[GerryAttrick]

:Oi:I have a photocopy Service manual for sale (Spiral bound with clear plastic cover).

Its in mint condition - never been used as I don't have an NC30

$15 inc postage. Can text picture if u want:2thumbsup

[Scuba_Steve]

Hey peoples, anyone know where I could find a complete set of fairing bolts for me 86 ViFfeR??? currently it's held together with "what ever bolt fitted" & I'd like to replace them with ones that look like they should be there

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.pro-bolt.com/search.php?searchterm=VFR750&searchtype=&searchpage=5

[DrunkenMistake]

Does anyone have a spare speedo cable, Newer the better I guess,
For a 91 VFR 400 NC30,
Mine snapped yesterday when I left work in the snow.
Looked on bits4bikes.co.nz and their next delivery is on the 8th of next month and I would like way long before that.
Cheers

[sil3nt]

Not really a VFR but possibly more awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M__p0LjSOOA

[koba]

Hey peoples, anyone know where I could find a complete set of fairing bolts for me 86 ViFfeR??? currently it's held together with "what ever bolt fitted" & I'd like to replace them with ones that look like they should be there

I can't help you. But I do sympathise.

When I asked at the local Honda dealer they replied "We CAN get them but you won't like the price." I think they were around $60 bucks each.

I know I have a complete set of the factory 1/4 turn fastners for my own bike but I put them in a safe place so I wouldn't loose them!

[Theflash]

These must be sought after bikes :-P

Some dirty thievingmongrels stole my bike 243658 last night (28-07-11), taken from Hunua/ Ararimu area. Cut Padlock on gate, bike was steering locked in garage.

VFR400 NC21 1986 Full Faring model
Matt Black Body work incl faring, black wheel rims (only one i've seen), no decals on bike apart from TRAC (on front mud guard) and VFR (on Frame).
Shinko rear tyre, metzeller front tyre.
Bike is very loud, has an exhaust leak in mixer box 4-1.
REGO: A7AEH (if still on it)

If anyone spots it, please call or text me me on 021 2720272 or theflash@vodafone.co.nz

Cheers
Gordon.

PS: sitting at home drinking speights, holding helmet, tears in eyes.

[sil3nt]

These must be sought after bikes :-P

Some dirty thievingmongrels stole my bike 243658 last night (28-07-11), taken from Hunua/ Ararimu area. Cut Padlock on gate, bike was steering locked in garage.

VFR400 NC21 1986 Full Faring model
Matt Black Body work incl faring, black wheel rims (only one i've seen), no decals on bike apart from TRAC (on front mud guard) and VFR (on Frame).
Shinko rear tyre, metzeller front tyre.
Bike is very loud, has an exhaust leak in mixer box 4-1.
REGO: A7AEH (if still on it)

If anyone spots it, please call or text me me on 021 2720272 or theflash@vodafone.co.nz

Cheers
Gordon.

PS: sitting at home drinking speights, holding helmet, tears in eyes.That really sucks!

At least your drinking a real beer :yes:


In other news my little VFR just hit 60,000 km today :woohoo:

[HenryDorsetCase]

That really sucks!

At least your drinking a real beer :yes:


In other news my little VFR just hit 60,000 km today :woohoo:

speights is not real beer.

sucks about the bike though.

[sil3nt]

speights is not real beer.

sucks about the bike though.Speights Old Dark - Can't beat it!

(probably can but i cant be fucked trying every beer out there!)

[DrunkenMistake]

Mine just hit 50,000 .. and shit sorry to hear about the bike, it wasnt the one that was for sale on TM a few days ago though was it?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Speights Old Dark - Can't beat it!

(probably can but i cant be fucked trying every beer out there!)

no no no! wrong attitude! the great thing about craft beer is there is heaps and heaps of different ones: next time you grab a 12 pack or whatever, just grab a single one of something else: cost you between $4 and $7 depending on what it is. Give it a whirl: the great thing is its all beer, and if you dont like the one you tried on spec, just dont get it again. $5 says that within a couple weeks you will be buying less of the massmarket stuff, and more of the craft stuff.

also, DB are a pack of cunts who can get fucked (I know that Speights is Lion).

[DrunkenMistake]

no no no! wrong attitude! the great thing about craft beer is there is heaps and heaps of different ones: next time you grab a 12 pack or whatever, just grab a single one of something else: cost you between $4 and $7 depending on what it is. Give it a whirl: the great thing is its all beer, and if you dont like the one you tried on spec, just dont get it again. $5 says that within a couple weeks you will be buying less of the massmarket stuff, and more of the craft stuff.

also, DB are a pack of cunts who can get fucked (I know that Speights is Lion). ...

I will drink some pilsners but thats where it ends with beer,
I cant drink the shit, besides, Spirits are good for ya ;)

[koba]

These must be sought after bikes :-P

Some dirty thievingmongrels stole my bike 243658 last night (28-07-11), taken from Hunua/ Ararimu area. Cut Padlock on gate, bike was steering locked in garage.

VFR400 NC21 1986 Full Faring model
Matt Black Body work incl faring, black wheel rims (only one i've seen), no decals on bike apart from TRAC (on front mud guard) and VFR (on Frame).
Shinko rear tyre, metzeller front tyre.
Bike is very loud, has an exhaust leak in mixer box 4-1.
REGO: A7AEH (if still on it)

If anyone spots it, please call or text me me on 021 2720272 or theflash@vodafone.co.nz

Cheers
Gordon.

PS: sitting at home drinking speights, holding helmet, tears in eyes.

Will keep an eye out.

I know stealing is stupid to begin with but these thieves must be double dumb as an NC21 isn't worth stealing.
(no offence intended, its OK - I'm bla... I mean.. I own an NC21)

I'd always figured my best bet against my '21 being nicked lack of desirability.

[DrunkenMistake]

Will keep an eye out.

I know stealing is stupid to begin with but these thieves must be double dumb as an NC21 isn't worth stealing.
(no offence intended, its OK - I'm bla... I mean.. I own an NC21)

I'd always figured my best bet against my '21 being nicked lack of desirability.
I have a NC30, I didnt think it mattered what model it was, Its a bloody honda, I leave my key in the ignition while im at work all day, Figured no one would steal it.. I mean ITS A FUCKING HONDA.. :facepalm:


Im just shitting, Though I have done it several times by accident :facepalm::facepalm:

[Theflash]

I mean come on, it's 24 years old, looks OK but WTF.
They obviously were keen though, steering was locked, in a garage, behind a padlocked gate (they cut the hardened Padlock (not the weak chain = Dick heads)

They had to drag it out of the garage (I can see the marks) as it was next to my tractor.

and lifted it onto a trailer or ute.

Keeping my eyes peeled. Very distinctive with black rims, and a loud exhaust.

The Rego was 2 months out of date, phoned NZ Transport and told them it was stolen, they waived the 2 months and put reg on hold (nice guys for once).

[DrunkenMistake]

I mean come on, it's 24 years old, looks OK but WTF.
They obviously were keen though, steering was locked, in a garage, behind a padlocked gate (they cut the hardened Padlock (not the weak chain = Dick heads)

They had to drag it out of the garage (I can see the marks) as it was next to my tractor.

and lifted it onto a trailer or ute.

Keeping my eyes peeled. Very distinctive with black rims, and a loud exhaust.

The Rego was 2 months out of date, phoned NZ Transport and told them it was stolen, they waived the 2 months and put reg on hold (nice guys for once).

Hopefully they find the little snots, If I caught someone trying to flog my bike, man I would be the one getting arrested, Im lucky enough to live above my garage, so in order to get in they have to either cut through my roller door, or unlock and open my incredibly loud door downstairs, and even if they manage that, im pretty sure the crow bar beside the door up here will make sure work of their thieving little hands ...
Makes me so fucking mad hearing about people stealing shit, there are no reasons to steal, here in NZ you can be jobless and without a permanent home, yet you are able to live, because there are things set up such as the dole etc etc that allow you to continue a life of some degree, in NZ it would be incredibly hard to have absolutely nothing, its cunts who wont work or pull their own weight that choose what they think are the easier options, even in saying that some of them are just plain retarded, I know our education system isnt that bloody bad,
who the fuck steals a 24 year old bike, if someone is going to go to that much effort to have a car or ute of boat or whatever they are dumb enough to have, cut a padlock that has been designed to prevent dick heads like them cutting through, even though it would have been easier to go for the chain, then drag the bike out...
Then you think they would have sat down and figured out what the hell it is they are looking for, maybe im jumping the gun here, Did they flog anything other than the bike? if not then it was targeted for the bike and maybe it is someone you know, I couldnt see a 24 year old bike been popular for thieves who part bikes out and sell their stolen parts. Although I could be wrong.

Ok,
/Rant. :facepalm:

[jono035]

Bad luck, mate. Doubt it'll end up anywhere near me but I always take special notice of other VFRs around.

I've been riding my VFR to and from work this week and I've stopped noticing the problems with the fairings and have had a lot of people looking at it and a couple of thumbs up from cagers when stopped at the lights. It was running well before but feels much nicer now after AJ has adjusted everything. No more exhaust leak means it's quieter but sounds nicer.

Also, rolled the odometer, too, finally. It's now on 00090km :woohoo:

[DrunkenMistake]

Hey guys, Can some one give me a good indication of what my tyre pressure should be,
im about 100kg, no pillions no extra gear, full sport tyres.

Road riding,

I have 30 in the back and 23 in the front, clearly too low.

[PirateJafa]

Hey guys, Can some one give me a good indication of what my tyre pressure should be,
im about 100kg, no pillions no extra gear, full sport tyres.

Road riding,

I have 30 in the back and 23 in the front, clearly too low.

Waaay too low, tuddy. I used to find 33 front and rear was my sweet spot (55kg), though with a pillion I'd leave the front at 33 and bump the rear up to 36-38 (recommend 33/38 respectively for you).

[DrunkenMistake]

Waaay too low, tuddy. I used to find 33 front and rear was my sweet spot (55kg), though with a pillion I'd leave the front at 33 and bump the rear up to 36-38 (recommend 33/38 respectively for you).

Sweet as, cheers,
I found on my 250 36/42 worked well but wasn't sure if it would be too much on the vfr considering its another 30-40kg heavier haha.

The other thing I was meaning to ask you guys,
does anyone have a sure fire, quick turn throttle mod?

[Icemaestro]

Hey yall. Have the chance to buy a accident damaged VFR for pretty cheap.

What would you all say a vfr with low kms (around 35k), gravel rash on both sides, but all fairings oem and reasonably good condition cracks wise. I'm tempted to swap some of the bits to my bike and then sell the not as nice cosmetically one off. Hoping to get around 3, 3.2k for it...think this is do-able?

Also, if anyone has an oem nose cone they want to sell...pm me :-D

[DrunkenMistake]

Hey yall. Have the chance to buy a accident damaged VFR for pretty cheap.

What would you all say a vfr with low kms (around 35k), gravel rash on both sides, but all fairings oem and reasonably good condition cracks wise. I'm tempted to swap some of the bits to my bike and then sell the not as nice cosmetically one off. Hoping to get around 3, 3.2k for it...think this is do-able?

Also, if anyone has an oem nose cone they want to sell...pm me :-D

Geez I need fairings, Nose cone, both upper quarters and belly pan, Tail is fine though a guy on the 400greybike forum brought some chinese RVF fairings from a recommended seller, they look pretty good, im just waiting to see photos of them on his bike to see if they are true fit.

[Icemaestro]

whats the link to that? I'm still waiting on mr raceevolution - he's wanting to talk to AJ to confirm his assessment before taking it further (after I threatened small claims:-P after he hadn't replied for 2 weeks!)

[DrunkenMistake]

http://www.400greybike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=27739&start=10

Go from page 2 onwards youll get the gist.

[DrunkenMistake]

Added the air today when I finished work, and gave it a good huss home,
Seemed to feel much better in the corners, wasnt going wide and it didnt feel like I had to fight it to dip in.
Even dragged my knee in a mid road skirmish with a boy racer... :facepalm:

[sil3nt]

NC30 owners!

This is a must download and read http://www.400greybike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=28836

Very cool.

[motorbyclist]

Does anyone have a spare speedo cable, Newer the better I guess,
For a 91 VFR 400 NC30,
Mine snapped yesterday when I left work in the snow.
Looked on bits4bikes.co.nz and their next delivery is on the 8th of next month and I would like way long before that.
Cheers

when mine went I used robinson instruments in onehunga to make me a new one



I have 30 in the back and 23 in the front, clearly too low.
waaaay under


Waaay too low, tuddy. I used to find 33 front and rear was my sweet spot (55kg), though with a pillion I'd leave the front at 33 and bump the rear up to 36-38 (recommend 33/38 respectively for you).
A little over?


if we call a 100kg rider a jap+pillion equivalent, Honda reckons 225/250kPa (33/36 PSI)

I'm 70Kg and find 32/33 to work well (NC35 though)

[motorbyclist]

One of the apprentices at work bought a 15,000km NC30 unseen for $3000.

the seller even rode it to his house......


but we can't start the bike.....


long story short the bike has clearly got more than 15k under it's belt, plus performance piper and exhaust. Took it to AJ to see what he could do and my-oh-my the cunt of a seller must have unloaded the bike from a trailer and ridden it up the driveway on fumes.

The fuel tap is stuffed, plastic handle missing too.

The air filter was filthy.

The trumpets are missing

The aluminium casting that holds the carburetor block together (and has the airbox on top) has had countless 5mm holes drilled into it. even the little divider ribs are ground out.

Aj started the bike and the fucking thing went beserk revving all over the place - idle, choke and throttle do fuck all - it's got a mind of it's own shoot yellow and blue flames out the rear!

So, the bike is clearly an ex-racebike run in dusty conditions with no airfilter whatsoever and probably HRC trumpets. An owner probably lost the trumpets and used all of three screws to fit the airbox to sell it. We can't trust the carb linkages are set right nor what the jets are set to so not really worth the effort....

The engine is probably knackered, but the current plan is to buy a new unmolested set of carbs and fuel tap and hopefully get a running bike out of it...

[DrunkenMistake]

One of the apprentices at work bought a 15,000km NC30 unseen for $3000.

the seller even rode it to his house......


but we can't start the bike.....


long story short the bike has clearly got more than 15k under it's belt, plus performance piper and exhaust. Took it to AJ to see what he could do and my-oh-my the cunt of a seller must have unloaded the bike from a trailer and ridden it up the driveway on fumes.

The fuel tap is stuffed, plastic handle missing too.

The air filter was filthy.

The trumpets are missing

The aluminium casting that holds the carburetor block together (and has the airbox on top) has had countless 5mm holes drilled into it. even the little divider ribs are ground out.

Aj started the bike and the fucking thing went beserk revving all over the place - idle, choke and throttle do fuck all - it's got a mind of it's own shoot yellow and blue flames out the rear!

So, the bike is clearly an ex-racebike run in dusty conditions with no airfilter whatsoever and probably HRC trumpets. An owner probably lost the trumpets and used all of three screws to fit the airbox to sell it. We can't trust the carb linkages are set right nor what the jets are set to so not really worth the effort....

The engine is probably knackered, but the current plan is to buy a new unmolested set of carbs and fuel tap and hopefully get a running bike out of it...

Sounds like they tried to replicate the HRC Carb set up, unless it has a air scoop tray then it may be the legit carbs, doesnt sound like it though.

[jono035]

Nice link, sil3nt, very good reading.

I run my tires at 33/33 and it seems fine. Dropped it back to 30/30 on the track as suggested and had no problems corner, bike felt very stable and well planted.

Again, not that I have anything to compare it with :p

[Icemaestro]

Did you ask AJ? He has many sets of nc30 carbs sitting in his workshop there...fuel tap wise - I have some bits left from a fuel tap repair kit I bought from the UK if that helps? which bike on trademe was it?

[racefactory]

Does anyone have a spare speedo cable, Newer the better I guess,
For a 91 VFR 400 NC30,
Mine snapped yesterday when I left work in the snow.
Looked on bits4bikes.co.nz and their next delivery is on the 8th of next month and I would like way long before that.
Cheers

Yes pretty sure I have a RVF speedo cable and it should be same.

[racefactory]

One of the apprentices at work bought a 15,000km NC30 unseen for $3000.

the seller even rode it to his house......


but we can't start the bike.....


long story short the bike has clearly got more than 15k under it's belt, plus performance piper and exhaust. Took it to AJ to see what he could do and my-oh-my the cunt of a seller must have unloaded the bike from a trailer and ridden it up the driveway on fumes.

The fuel tap is stuffed, plastic handle missing too.

The air filter was filthy.

The trumpets are missing

The aluminium casting that holds the carburetor block together (and has the airbox on top) has had countless 5mm holes drilled into it. even the little divider ribs are ground out.

Aj started the bike and the fucking thing went beserk revving all over the place - idle, choke and throttle do fuck all - it's got a mind of it's own shoot yellow and blue flames out the rear!

So, the bike is clearly an ex-racebike run in dusty conditions with no airfilter whatsoever and probably HRC trumpets. An owner probably lost the trumpets and used all of three screws to fit the airbox to sell it. We can't trust the carb linkages are set right nor what the jets are set to so not really worth the effort....

The engine is probably knackered, but the current plan is to buy a new unmolested set of carbs and fuel tap and hopefully get a running bike out of it...

You should know k's don't mean shit!

[HenryDorsetCase]

I have a set of trumpets you can have. I am not sure what they are: they look after market-ish to me. I also (I think) have a stock airbox you can have.

slide me a tenner to cover the post and your address. sing out if you want a photo first: can do.

[DrunkenMistake]

Yes pretty sure I have a RVF speedo cable and it should be same.

Managed to track one down and a painful price, but its in and going now haha,

---

So today I got busy on the bike, I need new fairings and im trying to find the easiest Method of doing it, I have been giving some ABS glue and have been repairing the current panels and body work so I can have them prepped and painted as its going to be the easiest way, seeming as there dont seem to be many credible sellers of painted after market fairings.
So I took to doing that today, done a fair bit and it seems to have come out pretty well, I also installed my new speedo cable which was easier than I had thought, and its working, so no issues,
Also tweeked some of my accent lights I had put in, one of my cables had melted on the motor a little, so I replaced the cable and have clipped it to the inside of the frame, hopefully it will solve that.
Pretty productive day, and nothing seemed to go wrong for once haha

[jono035]

You should know k's don't mean shit!

Yeah, aint that the truth. 100,100 kms on mine and when I had the heads off everything looked shiny and new. Unbelievable.

[motorbyclist]

Yeah the holes looked remarkably like the HRC mod and it would explain the lack of trumpets (ie they may have been running HRC ones), but there was no scoop or airbox mod, nor any common sense stuff like mesh screen to keep out sand/bugs...

In all likelihood my mate has bought some munter's failed "race" project that never left the shed :(


Did you ask AJ? He has many sets of nc30 carbs sitting in his workshop there...fuel tap wise - I have some bits left from a fuel tap repair kit I bought from the UK if that helps? which bike on trademe was it?

this all took place in AJ's workshop - he didn't have a working set available for sale (swaps only), but did have a bitser where someone tried to fit the carbs with a hammer and broke one of the carb bodies:facepalm:

we probably need a whole tap unit tbh, but thanks anyway


I have a set of trumpets you can have. I am not sure what they are: they look after market-ish to me. I also (I think) have a stock airbox you can have.

slide me a tenner to cover the post and your address. sing out if you want a photo first: can do.

pics of the trumpets maybe?

[rustys]

Any way of lowering one of these bikes? are lowering kits available.
Cheers Rustys

[DrunkenMistake]

Any way of lowering one of these bikes? are lowering kits available.
Cheers Rustys

Yes, Rick Oliver supplies a lowering link for the rear shock,
Wouldnt recommend it though these bikes are designed for corners, Everything done to these bikes is for the twists, they would have made it lower otherwise, Im 5'5 and im on the balls of my feet/toes, just make sure you always put your left foot down, keeps your brake covered, and you will never slip up and fall over.

Long story short, The your feet dont touch the ground when your riding, so just ride! haha

[rustys]

Yes, Rick Oliver supplies a lowering link for the rear shock,
Wouldnt recommend it though these bikes are designed for corners, Everything done to these bikes is for the twists, they would have made it lower otherwise, Im 5'5 and im on the balls of my feet/toes, just make sure you always put your left foot down, keeps your brake covered, and you will never slip up and fall over.

Long story short, The your feet dont touch the ground when your riding, so just ride! haha

Thanks for that, how can i get intouch with this bloke, my partner is only 5' so needs something to get a little more stable when her feet touch the ground, not to worried about the corner speeds at this stage. She has had 10ml added to her boot soles already.
Cheers.

[DrunkenMistake]

Thanks for that, how can i get intouch with this bloke, my partner is only 5' so needs something to get a little more stable when her feet touch the ground, not to worried about the corner speeds at this stage. She has had 10ml added to her boot soles already.
Cheers.

www.400greybike.com sign up there, also.
http://www.rvf.dk/rickoliver/
You have to email him, he takes a little while to reply.
He has the NC30 one listed, but im sure he does the 35 as well, drops 20mm, unless you maybe put a longer spring in the forks I wouldn't recommend dropping them down the tripple as they have alot of travel and youll probably end up smashing the front mud guard into the front cowl

[HenryDorsetCase]

www.400greybike.com sign up there, also.
http://www.rvf.dk/rickoliver/
You have to email him, he takes a little while to reply.
He has the NC30 one listed, but im sure he does the 35 as well, drops 20mm, unless you maybe put a longer spring in the forks I wouldn't recommend dropping them down the tripple as they have alot of travel and youll probably end up smashing the front mud guard into the front cowl

put it up on a stand, take the fork springs out, suck and see. There is not a lot of room between the rads and front wheel at full compression either, from memory.

[DrunkenMistake]

put it up on a stand, take the fork springs out, suck and see. There is not a lot of room between the rads and front wheel at full compression either, from memory.

I know mine on the NC30 gets bloody close,
But I have the saggy tit equivalent of suspension

[motorbyclist]

Any way of lowering one of these bikes? are lowering kits available.
Cheers Rustys

aren't they already pretty close to the ground?

Have you tired the obvious and wound down the preload front and rear?


.... and to think the most common mod it to RAISE the rear as per HRC spec...

[rustys]

aren't they already pretty close to the ground?

Have you tired the obvious and wound down the preload front and rear?


.... and to think the most common mod it to RAISE the rear as per HRC spec...

Thanks guys, i have wound down the preload front and rear and have made some good gains.

The problem is that my wife who rides a 250R ninja, finds that ok, that bike has even a higher seat height than the 400, the reason is that the 250 seat is narrower and the 400 seat is wider, and with someone who has a short leg height, it means an extra stretch out in the leg department.
All looks ok now, she seems more comfortable on it.
Cheers.

[DrunkenMistake]

Thanks guys, i have wound down the preload front and rear and have made some good gains.

The problem is that my wife who rides a 250R ninja, finds that ok, that bike has even a higher seat height than the 400, the reason is that the 250 seat is narrower and the 400 seat is wider, and with someone who has a short leg height, it means an extra stretch out in the leg department.
All looks ok now, she seems more comfortable on it.
Cheers.

All else fails, knock a link or two out of the chain, Or maybe its add one or two, and when you adjust the chain on the rear, it actually raises/lowers the rear depending which way you go, not by much mind you, I have mine sitting as high as I could get it without changing out the shock etc, found it easier to hit the corners a little harder and smoother

[DrunkenMistake]

On the note of suspension,
I know there is a common mod for the rear shot, RS 250 shock or some shit,
whats involved, is it a straight swap? how much more height does it add to the rear and how much would one be looking at for the shock?
My rear shock has had it and probably needs a re valve which would cost me similar to a new shock.. so anything cheaper is better haha.

[Icemaestro]

I had the rs250 shock, the bottom of the shock where it links on has to have about 5mm or so shaved off it to fit the nc30 linkages. if you google you'll find the rs250 shock mod. It also raises the rear by about 2cm I believe, I would say more than that, especially if you have an old saggy shock. The stock one I have now is in really good condition and probably only dropped it by 1cm (Though I haven't touched the preload yet)

[DrunkenMistake]

I had the rs250 shock, the bottom of the shock where it links on has to have about 5mm or so shaved off it to fit the nc30 linkages. if you google you'll find the rs250 shock mod. It also raises the rear by about 2cm I believe, I would say more than that, especially if you have an old saggy shock. The stock one I have now is in really good condition and probably only dropped it by 1cm (Though I haven't touched the preload yet)

Ohk sweet, I would much prefer a stock shock but you know how it is

[tigertim20]

speights is not real beer.

.
+1

Speights Old Dark - Can't beat it!

(probably can but i cant be fucked trying every beer out there!)
wheres your sense of adventure?

...

I will drink some pilsners but thats where it ends with beer,
I cant drink the shit, besides, Spirits are good for ya ;)
yeah, spirits puts hair on ya chest, but looks like it stunts ya growth too...

On the note of suspension,
I know there is a common mod for the rear shot, RS 250 shock or some shit,
whats involved, is it a straight swap? how much more height does it add to the rear and how much would one be looking at for the shock?
My rear shock has had it and probably needs a re valve which would cost me similar to a new shock.. so anything cheaper is better haha.

While youre on that DM, Haydthreen is quite happy to sell you the cbr shock he has, I think its off the 04/05 CBR,RRRRRRRRRR or whatever it is, he wont be using the shock, Look into sizes etc and see if it will fit. fully adjustable, and being off a larger bike might suit your build a little better, seeing as those VFRs seem to have been built for people that weigh about as much as my wife

[DrunkenMistake]

+1

wheres your sense of adventure?

yeah, spirits puts hair on ya chest, but looks like it stunts ya growth too...


While youre on that DM, Haydthreen is quite happy to sell you the cbr shock he has, I think its off the 04/05 CBR,RRRRRRRRRR or whatever it is, he wont be using the shock, Look into sizes etc and see if it will fit. fully adjustable, and being off a larger bike might suit your build a little better, seeing as those VFRs seem to have been built for people that weigh about as much as my wife
I think it would be doable, but its not a remote res, I have seen the CBR 600 one down, and the Res has to stick out of the tail fairing just a fraction.

[motorbyclist]

Just a head's up that Bike Busters in Ngaruawhahia have so far sold my mate an incomplete carby missing the top part we need (cause his has holes drilled in it), and followed it up with a set that's been dropped and damaged....

[tigertim20]

Just a head's up that Bike Busters in Ngaruawhahia have so far sold my mate an incomplete carby missing the top part we need (cause his has holes drilled in it), and followed it up with a set that's been dropped and damaged....

Hmm, thats a bugger, Give him a ring, Ive dealt with him several times, and aside from him occaisionally taking a day or three to get back to me, have always found them to be really good. What carb parts are you after exactly? Drunkenmistake has an almost complete set of spares in his shed.

[sil3nt]

Just a head's up that Bike Busters in Ngaruawhahia have so far sold my mate an incomplete carby missing the top part we need (cause his has holes drilled in it), and followed it up with a set that's been dropped and damaged....He is normally all good. Although i have always dealt with him in person. Is a bit of a strange bugger though (especially over the phone)

[DrunkenMistake]

Hmm, thats a bugger, Give him a ring, Ive dealt with him several times, and aside from him occaisionally taking a day or three to get back to me, have always found them to be really good. What carb parts are you after exactly? Drunkenmistake has an almost complete set of spares in his shed.

They need the plate part, the one that has been ground down for some reason.
His looks like..
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b171/Cammo78/Racebikecarbs.jpg
But its not the HJC Spec its just someone drilling holes in shit haha

[koba]

Epoxy resin.

[jono035]

Epoxy resin.

Yeah, that's probably what I'd end up doing. Just using something like Araldite is probably all that's needed. Hell, you can probably get away with some gaffer tape on the far side of the holes and then just pouring the epoxy into them.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Just a head's up that Bike Busters in Ngaruawhahia have so far sold my mate an incomplete carby missing the top part we need (cause his has holes drilled in it), and followed it up with a set that's been dropped and damaged....

this probably isn't any use to you, but econohonda have NC30 parts. I've always had great service from them.

[Cam_Valk]

Anyone here able to help me out?

I'm after some NC35 fairing pieces, especially a tail piece.
Thought i would try here before i look on ebay for full replacements.
(And on that note, anyone know if its possible to get quality fairings from ebay, any decent sellers?)

Thanks
Cam

[HenryDorsetCase]

stock or repro? or something else entirely?

[DrunkenMistake]

stock or repro? or something else entirely?

http://www.400greybike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=27739&start=30
Keep an eye on this thread,
a Guy CRM brought some Chinese fairings for his RVF, Look great paint wise, he hasnt fitted them yet.
For something epicly different you could go to tyga-Performance.com but you pay for what you get, but its all fibre glass.

[Cam_Valk]

I would love to get some tyga fairings, but have a limited budget, probably willing to spend up to $1000 NZD landed for a full set.

Yea i have kept my eye on that thread, eagerly waiting for a name of the ebay seller.

[DrunkenMistake]

I would love to get some tyga fairings, but have a limited budget, probably willing to spend up to $1000 NZD landed for a full set.

Yea i have kept my eye on that thread, eagerly waiting for a name of the ebay seller.

I just brought myself a Tyga Suzuka front cowl, and belly pan for the NC30, then im buying the 2 seat tail,
In total it will sting me about $800 NZ as I have a buyers discount through them, took some convincing .. I just need them painted, Idea is to have them painted black on the inside, and a base colour on the outside then vinyl wrap the details.

[Icemaestro]

Tyga Do an already painted rvf stock fairing I believe?

[DrunkenMistake]

Tyga Do an already painted rvf stock fairing I believe?

Are you sure?
I know they do a full carbon set

Edit:
So they do!

[Icemaestro]

http://tyga-performance.com/site/product_info.php?cPath=71_920_922&products_id=1849 (http://tyga-performance.com/site/product_info.php?cPath=71_920_922&products_id=1849)

And I've talked to them about nc30 parts and they said they actually have a little bit of OEM stuff as well if you send them an email - might have some nc35 OEM stuff too, as I notice the tail on that kit is single seat

[motorbyclist]

Hmm, thats a bugger, Give him a ring, Ive dealt with him several times, and aside from him occaisionally taking a day or three to get back to me, have always found them to be really good. What carb parts are you after exactly? Drunkenmistake has an almost complete set of spares in his shed.

we did give him a ring - that's how we got the dropped set!

Getting the plate replaced probably won't help - go knows what else they've done to this poor bike

We've got a complete set from one of the wreckers on the shore.

[Icemaestro]

Is that Action/atomic? Does he have any other useful parts there?

[Dodgy_Matt]

Ummm one of you Christchurch boys might want to jump on this auction

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-399826076.htm

[monkey99]

I'm at about the stage where I can blissfully say I've come to the end of a 4 year project. RVF400 NC35

Last actions are all about coordination of screen writer, custom painter and suspension specialist replacing front end and the workshop putting all these parts together.

Major work done was replacing Engine, Electrical Harness, Airbox & Carbs, Rear suspension, braiding lines, rearsets, exhaust and this last part the entire body work.

Thus if anybody wants to make an offer on HRC fettled VFR (NC24/30) Carbs let me know. They have the HRC slide modification, standard HRC idle pilots, HRC springs and main jets that makes the bike sound like a drunk V8.

Response is not as good as the flatslides but the power output and ease of access to the power at speed is awesome - mileage is not awesome

Make an offer and I'll consider it. DM any questions about other parts and bits

[tigertim20]

I'm at about the stage where I can blissfully say I've come to the end of a 4 year project. RVF400 NC35

Last actions are all about coordination of screen writer, custom painter and suspension specialist replacing front end and the workshop putting all these parts together.

Major work done was replacing Engine, Electrical Harness, Airbox & Carbs, Rear suspension, braiding lines, rearsets, exhaust and this last part the entire body work.

Thus if anybody wants to make an offer on HRC fettled VFR (NC24/30) Carbs let me know. They have the HRC slide modification, standard HRC idle pilots, HRC springs and main jets that makes the bike sound like a drunk V8.

Response is not as good as the flatslides but the power output and ease of access to the power at speed is awesome - mileage is not awesome

Make an offer and I'll consider it. DM any questions about other parts and bits

Go On DM DOOOO ITTTTTT^^^^^

[DrunkenMistake]

Go On DM DOOOO ITTTTTT^^^^^

What am I doing now?
the HRC Carbs thing?
I want tooo but its pointless for road use it has an epic low end flat spot and I need to get a air scoop tray and some other bits and bobs, Though I wonder what the slides would be like in a normal set of carbs
Would be easier and cheaper to get pod filters and have it balanced and tuned, then swap carbs from road to race

[Lateralus]

Iv been looking to paint or buy a new tail unit for my NC30, and i stumbled upon this.
http://tyga-performance.com/site/index.php?cPath=230_554_961

What do you guys think? I would keep my original tail unit aswell ofc.

[Devy]

i personally love it!. i think i it makes the nc30s single sided sway arm look sick.

[DrunkenMistake]

Iv been looking to paint or buy a new tail unit for my NC30, and i stumbled upon this.
http://tyga-performance.com/site/index.php?cPath=230_554_961

What do you guys think? I would keep my original tail unit aswell ofc.

The new subframe that comes with it raises the seat height by 20mm, and so long as you got a hugger for the back wheel it would look sweet