VFR owners' thread, for VFRPS members and prospective members [Archive] - Page 2

Coyote

10th December 2007, 13:24

How dare you.

I am Dissmissing you from the VFRPS with immediate effect.

Even an nc30 that is plagued with problems is a joy to behold.

You shoulda bought an rvf...
The VFRPS had lured me into buying the piece of shit. So frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

Admittedly, would be a very good model of bike. You have to be a pretty damn good rider to keep up with me despite my shit skills. Looks great too. But why did I have to get the bloody lemon? It is definately not a joy, instead it's brought me back into my depression which I fought so hard to get bloody out of.

I'm looking at getting an XR next. Sigh....

VFR's will become rarer once I've delt to this one...

Morcs

10th December 2007, 13:27

Yeah theres always a lemon.

I sold mine just before It potentially turned into a lemon.

Im gonna make sure the rvf gets a rebuild before it goes the same way too...

Coyote

10th December 2007, 13:35

Yeah theres always a lemon.

I sold mine just before It potentially turned into a lemon.

Im gonna make sure the rvf gets a rebuild before it goes the same way too...
You almost sold that to me. I was doomed from the beginning :pinch:

Let me know how the rebuild goes. I reckon I can turn it into a pretty damn badass machine if I tidied mine from the ground up. Re-paint the frame (currently black but with several chips and a nasty dent) replace all bearings and such, get all the TYGA kit for it too, and isn't a 450cc big bore kit being developed by some dudes in America? That would be excellent.

It'll be a good bike once everything that can go wrong has gone wrong and I'm left with everything fixed.

vifferman

10th December 2007, 14:02

Boyd's in Hamilton have at the moment got a new VFR800 and a new VFR800 Interceptor for an extra $400 ish.

Other than the tri colour paint job, what does the interceptor have over the standard VFR?
The tri-colour paint job is for the USA's 25th anniversary of the Interceptor, which is what the VFR's called in Mrka. The earlier model VF750s were also called Interceptors, as were the VF500s. It's like how they call almost all their Kwackasuckis "Ninjas".

HenryDorsetCase

10th December 2007, 14:10

You almost sold that to me. I was doomed from the beginning :pinch:

Let me know how the rebuild goes. I reckon I can turn it into a pretty damn badass machine if I tidied mine from the ground up. Re-paint the frame (currently black but with several chips and a nasty dent) replace all bearings and such, get all the TYGA kit for it too, and isn't a 450cc big bore kit being developed by some dudes in America? That would be excellent.

It'll be a good bike once everything that can go wrong has gone wrong and I'm left with everything fixed.

there was a 434cc big bore kit sold on tardme a month or so ago for cheap (relatively about $700 or so IIRC)

the motors dont seem to cause issues, but all the "other" bits do when they are this age ... they're 18 or so years old remember....

I've often wondered if a 750 motor could be shoehorned into a NC30 frame

Morcs

10th December 2007, 17:24

Qkchk

10th December 2007, 17:28

The tri-colour paint job is for the USA's 25th anniversary of the Interceptor, which is what the VFR's called in Mrka.

There is one @ Botany Honda if anyone is interested - in the Tri Colore` scheme.

Qkchk

10th December 2007, 17:29

Believe it or not the 750 frame is so similar in size that you would mix them up.

They have completely different engine mounts though.

And a new age of beasts are unleashed..........

Coyote

10th December 2007, 19:19

there was a 434cc big bore kit sold on tardme a month or so ago for cheap (relatively about $700 or so IIRC)

the motors dont seem to cause issues, but all the "other" bits do when they are this age ... they're 18 or so years old remember....

I've often wondered if a 750 motor could be shoehorned into a NC30 frame
Interesting, now that's what I'm after if I was to do my 'strip down to every single bolt, shine or replace everything and build back together' project.

Yeah, It's the same age as me :p

Believe it or not the 750 frame is so similar in size that you would mix them up.

They have completely different engine mounts though.
Interesting. My Dad's friend has recently aquired a RC30. He's getting it in a week (borrowing our trusty trailer, not the first time it's carried a VFR). Dead keen to see it as soon as he gets it. Don't think I'll get a ride unless I promise him my first born (which I haven't ruled out just yet).

GerryAttrick

11th December 2007, 07:22

I've often wondered if a 750 motor could be shoehorned into a NC30 frame

Now why would you want to do that and waste a perfekly good 750 motor:argh: Just buy a nice early 750 like my 86 (well except for dodgy fairing on one side) and you get the best of both world..and I bet you will ride it longer than a tiny little 400:calm:

Seriously I have a pearl white 750 for sale - have not advertised it as my brother keeps telling me he'll take it but he never seems to have the $$. Have the carbs off ATM as I had to clean them & reset the float levels and never seem to get time to nail it all back together. S'only done about 30,000kms and I'd part with it for the best offer over $2k but you'd havfta fit the carbs yourself - its easy enough and I have a good fairing that needs paint.

Oh and it needs recompliancing as the insurance company de-rego'd it rather than replace the fairings - wankers!!!!

The queue forms over there------------->

Qkchk

11th December 2007, 07:29

Just while we are talking about VFR bits and bobs -

Does any know of a set of stock pipes for a VFR800 2002-2007 for sale? Want to gut my pipes but want a scraficial pair to do the deed on......

Anyone? :spudwave:

Swoop

12th December 2007, 15:00

Coyote

17th December 2007, 19:53

From memory

So far:

Initial cost: $3800
Shipping: $300
Paid off: $200
Interest incurred: $400
2nd hand ignition barrel: $170
Front valve clearance check/fix stuck shut exhaust valve: $130
Misc paint supplies: $80-150
Front brake disks: $430
Rear tyre: $320
Misc eletrical shit (headlight bulbs, brake switch, etc,): $100
Misc other costs:
- 3x friday nights due to break downs
- 2x RG150's
- 2/3rds of what little sanity remained
- Girlfriend's patience with my budgeting mindset
- Lots of time

Due:

Rear brake disk: $200-300
Rear brake pads: $60
Front brake pads: $120
Mudguard: ----
Mudguard mounts: ----
Windscreen: $150
Fork seals: ----
Rear shock: $300+
Paintwork: ----
Headstem bearings: ----
Front valve clearance check: ----
Loan repayments: $3600
Interest incured: $1200 max
Misc other costs:
- 2x girlfriends
- Easy, comfy, good afterschool job
- Even more time

Evaluated worth:
$2000-2500

Cost of a better condition example with lower mileage:
$6000

Income:
$60 a week

Pretty keen to give up and get something else when I get a proper job. It's not worth selling since I'll only get back what I've spent, not what I've paid for it. It'll be with me till the day I die. Test riding an XR650 tomorrow

Chrislost

17th December 2007, 20:34

The VFRPS had lured me into buying the piece of shit. So frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

Admittedly, would be a very good model of bike. You have to be a pretty damn good rider to keep up with me despite my shit skills. Looks great too. But why did I have to get the bloody lemon? It is definately not a joy, instead it's brought me back into my depression which I fought so hard to get bloody out of.

I'm looking at getting an XR next. Sigh....

VFR's will become rarer once I've delt to this one...

the vfr is not a dumb bike, it knew you were not a believer and decided to stop doing as it was asked.

mine has been sweet to me and all i did was give it oil and gas and a few tyres, batteries and 3 carb balances.

Coyote

17th December 2007, 20:49

the vfr is not a dumb bike, it knew you were not a believer and decided to stop doing as it was asked.

mine has been sweet to me and all i did was give it oil and gas and a few tyres, batteries and 3 carb balances.
Carb balances... bet mine needs that. One of the front cylinders stopped working so well this weekend. I'm guessing an exhaust pipe has become loose (took them off to get the sump onto a stand so I could do the disks).

That is not the case. I've noticed, bar health and family, I can only have 1 good thing going for me. School/work, relationships, bikes. My job is alright but shit pay, failed miserably at school, I've got an excellent girlfriend, and the bike is giving me grief. I first noticed this with my RG. The RG came into grief whenever I was enjoying school and it seized the week after meeting my soon to be girlfriend.

If anything, the VFRPS should be proud of my effort so far. I may not have the best attitude, but I've kept one of the noble steeds running at great relative expense.

Morcs

17th December 2007, 20:58

Buy my RVF... 5k...

:D

Coyote

17th December 2007, 21:05

Buy my RVF... 5k...

:D
Dare I?

Why are you getting rid of it?

Chrislost

17th December 2007, 22:11

hes getting a 600 to help keep up

Morcs

18th December 2007, 06:07

Dare I?

Why are you getting rid of it?

hes getting a 600 to help keep up

Bah. it keeps up fine.

Except with a pillion.

and i want a brand spanker.

Chrislost

18th December 2007, 17:41

hmm but even a brand spanker wont keep up with the dentmonster...

Coyote

18th December 2007, 21:42

hmm but even a brand spanker will keep up with the dentmonster...
Sadly. That's why I'm only going to upgrade to a motard or an insurance wreck.

Are you VFR purists against TYGA fairings and more into keeping the originals or are you all for them? If the VFR proves to be reliable for a decent length of time I might go that far (it was the original plan).

Chrislost

18th December 2007, 22:32

the TYGA kits look fooken sick! and those exausts they have are quite nice looking too.

i found a 450cc kit on some website, 88HP vfr anyone???:drool:
10k $US tho :eek5:

skidMark

18th December 2007, 23:07

the TYGA kits look fooken sick! and those exausts they have are quite nice looking too.

i found a 450cc kit on some website, 88HP vfr anyone???:drool:
10k $US tho :eek5:

might as well just buy an rc30 then.....

more_fasterer

19th December 2007, 10:16

Do the tyga kit. Earthbound_misfit has a tyga kit with a nicky hayden replica paint job and it looks absolutely stunning.

Coyote

19th December 2007, 11:50

might as well just buy an rc30 then.....
My Dad's friend just did so recently. Cost him a fortune (had to sell all his bikes) and it's not in great condition either.

I'll have to see if I can get a go. It's been done up to 130hp at the wheel and it's has a norrow powerband :blink:

Coyote

19th December 2007, 12:02

the TYGA kits look fooken sick! and those exausts they have are quite nice looking too.

i found a 450cc kit on some website, 88HP vfr anyone???:drool:
10k $US tho :eek5:
What is this website?

I'm not sure if I had 10k I would spend it on the VFR. I'd probably get a motard instead. Though a 88hp 400 would be wicked around corners.

Do the tyga kit. Earthbound_misfit has a tyga kit with a nicky hayden replica paint job and it looks absolutely stunning.
Can the CBR400 tail fit on the VFR with a bit of modifying? Could I fit a CBR subframe on? I prefer the look of the single seat tail, but I'm always carting my girlfriend around on the back so I don't want to loose the pillion seat

Morcs

19th December 2007, 12:09

Sadly. That's why I'm only going to upgrade to a motard or an insurance wreck.

Are you VFR purists against TYGA fairings and more into keeping the originals or are you all for them? If the VFR proves to be reliable for a decent length of time I might go that far (it was the original plan).

Ive never seen it viable to spend 3-4k+ on fairing kits on a bike worth about the same - and old to boot.

I love the old skool styling.

an 05 cbr tail will fit i think if you cut the subframe down.

Coyote

23rd December 2007, 20:03

GerryAttrick

24th December 2007, 07:35

Get new windscreen

Yay, only cost me a month's worth of petrol

No riding up the rimutakas for me...

Put it on

Fairing bracket is bent

Spend half an hour bending it

Welds from getting it fixed are too big

Grind it down

Put it on

Bend it more

Dent the tank with my elbow

1 step forward and 2 steps back :crybaby:

There are some days when you just shouldn't get out of bed!!! Sounds like this was one of them.

Ho hum have you decided to sell up yet and get a real VFR:bleh:

Chrislost

24th December 2007, 11:15

There are some days when you just shouldn't get out of bed!!! Sounds like this was one of them.

Ho hum have you decided to sell up yet and get a real VFR:bleh:

VFR800s are not sportbikes.

im saving for when honda or somebody other then ducatti make a 800(or 1000) v4/v5

notme

24th December 2007, 12:14

Just while we are talking about VFR bits and bobs -

Does any know of a set of stock pipes for a VFR800 2002-2007 for sale? Want to gut my pipes but want a sacrificial pair to do the deed on......

Anyone? :spudwave:

Can't help with pipes but I can provide pix of a simple mod to free up the stock mufflers if you're keen. You basically can't get it wrong if that's what you're worried about....

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1292538&postcount=11

A

vifferman

24th December 2007, 12:16

VFR800s are not sportbikes.
What?!?
You're talking crap, man!:nono:
So, 0-100 in 3.5 seconds, and a top speed of 240 is not sporty enough for you?

earthbound misfit

24th December 2007, 12:21

Happy Christmas VFR owners and fans
Here are the tyga rearsets on my nc30, very smooth to ride with

earthbound misfit

24th December 2007, 12:26

ok so attachment didnt work,

earthbound misfit

24th December 2007, 12:34

ok so forget the pic its too bigger than 512 bla bla etc, merry christmas anyway

Prof - R

24th December 2007, 13:19

hey just like to say a merry xmas to everyone too & just find out where you got the rear sets from & how much they cost you thanks

GerryAttrick

24th December 2007, 14:14

What?!?
You're talking crap, man!:nono:
So, 0-100 in 3.5 seconds, and a top speed of 240 is not sporty enough for you?

I just knew I could rely on Vifferman to chip in. Got those Pair valve blockoff plates fitted yet?:whocares:

Chrislost

24th December 2007, 20:17

What?!?
You're talking crap, man!:nono:
So, 0-100 in 3.5 seconds, and a top speed of 240 is not sporty enough for you?

hehe
well the 750 in its day was a fooken machine yknow.
might be as fast as a GSXR but actually able to stay in one piece...

Coyote

25th December 2007, 19:38

Ho hum have you decided to sell up yet and get a real VFR:bleh:
Oi! The NC30 is one of the best bikes ever!

I have renewed feelings since it's all coming together. It's X(treme)mas presents were a $50 spark plug I later found it didn't need, instead it was a loose muffler bolt that was causing the front right cylinder to splutter, some deep sockets to get the spark plug out in the first place, a new smoke colour double bubble windscreen, and a nice coat of gloss black on it's tail, which needs some clear coat since it has a satin finish currently. I also put it's lower fairings back on, confident now that I can repair it to look nice like the tail if I wreck it further. Riding over to the missussus tonight and Wanganui tomorrow, hopefully it treats me nicely in return.

If anyone spots a good replacement shock, let me know. Currently saving up to get Robert Taylor to rebuild it, but if there are cheap but good options about I'll take it.

Highlander

27th April 2008, 22:00

What are your experiences with the linked brakes on the new ones? Effective and helpfull or gimick not worth the effort they have gone to?

Yet to ride one but the blurbs sound promising.
VFR800 is high on my list of serious contenders for my next bike.

vifferman

28th April 2008, 09:32

What are your experiences with the linked brakes on the new ones? Effective and helpfull or gimick not worth the effort they have gone to?
Depends - if you're a RidingGod, then you will probably resent them. I think they're pretty good, and my 2001 VFR has the last iteration of the DCBS - the 2002 and newer VFRs' brakes have much less noticeable linked braking effect. In my (humble and not so expert) opinion, the DCBS is the next best thing to ABS in that you can brake hard with the rear brake pedal, and get significant braking without locking the rear wheel up. This is very useful in slippery conditions such as greasy or graveled roads. There is also less front-end dive when braking than with non-linked brakes, so the bike is more settled.
It's not all rosy though; the DCBS adds both sprung and unsprung weight, and bleeding the brakes is a complex procedure. However, if you decide to 'de-link' the brakes, although lines will cost a lot, it's been done lots of times, so there's plenty of info about what to do.

Swoop

28th April 2008, 09:57

I like them. No hassles whatsoever with them (so far).
The only drawback is trail braking in corners (if you do that) where with these linked brakes, that isn't an option.

pritch

28th April 2008, 10:11

I like them. No hassles whatsoever with them (so far). The only drawback is trail braking in corners (if you do that) where with these linked brakes, that isn't an option.

Ooops I've been trail braking occasionally... Now you've got me worried :-)

Another drawback is the extra cost if you decide you want braided lines. Extra lines = extra $.

Basically though I like them.

vifferman

28th April 2008, 10:23

I like them. No hassles whatsoever with them (so far).
The only drawback is trail braking in corners (if you do that) where with these linked brakes, that isn't an option.
Bollocks.
I do it all the time. I've braked in corners with the front brake, the back brake or both, and often go into slower corners with a bit of back brake. But then again... I've crashed, died, exploded into flames, and died all over again, many many times, so mebbe I'm doing summat wrong...

vifferman

28th April 2008, 10:25

Another drawback is the extra cost if you decide you want braided lines. Extra lines = extra $.

Depends what you do; you can just do braided lines on the front, which isn't too bad, and if you de-link the brakes the cost is about the same as any other bike.

moT

28th April 2008, 10:45

dont touch the rear brake its outright dangerous!!! you crazy ppl

Hamdog

30th April 2008, 20:48

Qkchk

6th May 2008, 21:46

Hey me and a couple of mates are looking at getting a bike to take to track days but aren't sure of what to get. Was thinking about a 1991 VRF 400R. Are these any good on the track? Any feed back will help

One of the best bikes for the track (in my thoughts). On the back straights it will get its arse kicked by 600cc+ but when it comes to corners, its like a cat in front of a bowl of milk.....

Qkchk

6th May 2008, 21:48

So when are we having a VFR ride?

Seems to be all hot air and wind so far....

Coyote

7th May 2008, 16:31

Mine broke down this morning.

As much as I hate my bloody bike, I followed another NC30 on the way to tech yesterday and they definitely are the best sounding bikes ever.

GerryAttrick

8th May 2008, 08:13

Mine broke down this morning.

As much as I hate my bloody bike, I followed another NC30 on the way to tech yesterday and they definitely are the best sounding bikes ever.

I feel soooooo sorry for you I have decided to make an offer. I'll take it off your hands and won't charge you a cent. I'll even pay freight from Wellington to Auckland:2thumbsup. I might even throw in my Minimoto that so far has never been ridden by me.

Whats wrong with your bike?

You might try this site for a bit of advice - mainly deal with the big brother 750s & 800s but there are a few clued up guys there when it comes to the "best bike by far"

http://www.ozvfr.net/

:jerry:

Coyote

8th May 2008, 18:34

I feel soooooo sorry for you I have decided to make an offer. I'll take it off your hands and won't charge you a cent. I'll even pay freight from Wellington to Auckland:2thumbsup. I might even throw in my Minimoto that so far has never been ridden by me.

Whats wrong with your bike?

You might try this site for a bit of advice - mainly deal with the big brother 750s & 800s but there are a few clued up guys there when it comes to the "best bike by far"

http://www.ozvfr.net/

:jerry:
Funny how I always get offered that. It's like everyone thinks I'm stupid.

What's right with it.... It broke down do to something with the fuel line I think. Ran out of gas despite filling the tank up. Tried starting it later in the day and there was a brief moment of life as if it still has spark and such but not enough fuel.

It's a high mileage bike. Everything is falling apart.

Since I'm at Weltec I can hopefully chuck the bike at the motorcycle students to fix it up. Then I can paint it up and it should be mint again.

GerryAttrick

9th May 2008, 08:20

Funny how I always get offered that. It's like everyone thinks I'm stupid.

What's right with it.... It broke down do to something with the fuel line I think. Ran out of gas despite filling the tank up. Tried starting it later in the day and there was a brief moment of life as if it still has spark and such but not enough fuel.

It's a high mileage bike. Everything is falling apart.

Since I'm at Weltec I can hopefully chuck the bike at the motorcycle students to fix it up. Then I can paint it up and it should be mint again.

Worth a crack - I'd love a 400 V4 but if I buy another bike the missus will probably leave me.

..Hmmmmm...Nah I won't even think about that!

If its high mileage then the first thing I would check would be the condition of the fuel lines if fuel is in the tank and not getting to the motor. Often they soften and close stopping fuel from flowing. Try starting it with the tank cap off - breather may be blocked and creating a vacuum in the tank stopping the fuel flow.

If it ran out of gas and there is no sign of fuel around the bike and it has used it fast and I'd be looking at choke as if that is jammed then the bike will run rich and use too much gas. Might be able to tell from plug condition.

Just remember to be systematic in your checks and take it slow. Theres plenty of guys around here that will give you advice - good or otherwise. Just make sure that you spell out the problem clearly i.e did it run out of gas or was the fuel in the tank but not getting thru?

I guess if you are a student it is your daily transport so its hard to take it off the road and do a good overhaul but it may be worth setting up a planned resto programme. Start with the fuel system and systematically go thru and check/clean everthing. You might find bits that need replacing and if money is tight then advertise for used but good bits.

If you have some other mates with bikes organise a maintenance day in the garage with a few beers and a BBQ- just get the work done before you have too many beers.:beer:

Its a bugger when you have to fix your bike instead of riding it:argh:

Coyote

9th May 2008, 08:52

Worth a crack - I'd love a 400 V4 but if I buy another bike the missus will probably leave me.

..Hmmmmm...Nah I won't even think about that!

Etc.
The first thing I need to do if I wish to restore the bike is get another vehicle. The VFR has been a mess since I've got it and it's only been getting worse since it can't come off the road. Though now it's had to since it doesn't work.

I used to work at the local Yamaha dealer. Once I start making some money I'll hopefully get a Jog scooter on finance. It'll be excellent getting something that's brand new and reliable, all I need to do is lower my sights :D

I'll hear on Monday whether the Weltec motorcycle tutor is keen to have my bike in for fixing. The guys at my old work went through his course and have given him a good word.

vifferman

9th May 2008, 08:57

Since I'm at Weltec I can hopefully chuck the bike at the motorcycle students to fix it up.
That'll be a good scheme. I 'inherited' a XBR500RS Mutant that ran very badly, and while pulling it apart, I noticed the intake valves were leaking. However (luckily!) my uncle was a tutor at whatever Waikato Polytecnic's called (I think it's summat like "Waikato Polytechnic" :confused:) and he got his elves to give it a valve grind. Very good value for money that was. :yes:

Swoop

9th May 2008, 09:07

...was a tutor at whatever Waikato Polytecnic's called (I think it's summat like "Waikato Polytechnic" :confused:)
Wintec.
Waikato Institute of Technology.

Coyote

9th May 2008, 09:09

That'll be a good scheme. I 'inherited' a XBR500RS Mutant that ran very badly, and while pulling it apart, I noticed the intake valves were leaking. However (luckily!) my uncle was a tutor at whatever Waikato Polytecnic's called (I think it's summat like "Waikato Polytechnic" :confused:) and he got his elves to give it a valve grind. Very good value for money that was. :yes:
I'm hoping I get away with free labour, or I paint up some fairings in return. Can't afford much else.

The polytech can't be seen as taking business away from the industries, which was the case for a while since everyone wants to take advantage of cheap/free labour. So the majority of projects are tutors cars or relatives to you or the tutor. May as well take advantage of it whilst I'm there.

Swoop

16th May 2008, 20:47

There is now a social group set up here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/group.php?groupid=29).
Everyone is welcome to join!

monkey99

16th June 2008, 23:01

Coyote

17th June 2008, 17:49

Sad to say you have a very simple yet frustrating problem..Fuel tap..you might just find that the honda diaphram has given up the ghost..the rubber gives up in the NZ fuel mix.. I have had to replace one after the same thing happened!! was on the way for a hot date..filled up the day before..needless to say..I'm still single and have a new issue

Done the mod, it runs better now. But I keep on forgetting to turn the tap off and the bike's got numerous other problems that will deny it a warrant. What's more someone pushed it over the other day (here's the thread: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=75870 ).

I'm really keen to make a single tank and tail unit like a MotoGP bike to replace the tank and fairings. Need to make a subframe though to contort to the style I want.

By the way, does your RVF have no side fairings? I saw a rough RVF go past whilst I was on the bus (sigh).

monkey99

17th June 2008, 18:15

I'm really keen to make a single tank and tail unit like a MotoGP bike to replace the tank and fairings. Need to make a subframe though to contort to the style I want.

By the way, does your RVF have no side fairings? I saw a rough RVF go past whilst I was on the bus (sigh).

No..not me..I have the full original..only moderately tatty originals..cost is 1600 for a complete sand down, reprime repaint & clear..stickers I'd have to source from UK (easy there).. I used to know a guy that made carbon fibre body bits for any bike..lost details..But I'm still searching cos it would be half the price for these over Tyga body (yik, not my fav) and originals!!

I think the two choices i have for this bike/project is buy new lump & source wiring loom..pay same dollars to have the engine split & rings done (no guarantee of the fix) or sell the bike & start again with my own importer from Japan for a second hand RVF from some middle aged geezer in Tokyo:headbang:

Coyote

17th June 2008, 18:34

No..not me..I have the full original..only moderately tatty originals..cost is 1600 for a complete sand down, reprime repaint & clear..stickers I'd have to source from UK (easy there).. I used to know a guy that made carbon fibre body bits for any bike..lost details..But I'm still searching cos it would be half the price for these over Tyga body (yik, not my fav) and originals!!

I think the two choices i have for this bike/project is buy new lump & source wiring loom..pay same dollars to have the engine split & rings done (no guarantee of the fix) or sell the bike & start again with my own importer from Japan for a second hand RVF from some middle aged geezer in Tokyo:headbang:
I'm training to become a refinisher so lucky enough for me it won't cost so much. Would offer to do up your bike, doing an RVF would be an honour, but I'm not sure how much time I'll have to do everything I want to at Weltec. Colapop's bike is meant to be coming in soon, my brother has wanted me to do his van before I started the course, and eventually I should start working on cars (sigh... :p). Maybe hassle me about it in a month or so's time if you're keen.

I had recently done up the tail on my bike. That's why having it knocked over was so heart breaking.

Would be interesting to hear how much engine work will cost. Think mine is due to bang any second... not that it'll be on the road for a while...

Edit: Painting up your bike would be even more likely if you're able to fix any cracks and imperfections that soak up workshop time. My tutor is happy to bring in spray gun practice jobs rather than restorations.

monkey99

17th June 2008, 18:42

I had recently done up the tail on my bike. That's why having it knocked over was so heart breaking.

Would be interesting to hear how much engine work will cost. Think mine is due to bang any second... not that it'll be on the road for a while...

Your the man:first: I'll come to you for the customer paint job I'm after..either Castrol racing or Black & pearl/silver/Blue Zebra (safari) stripes..let me know how when & what etc :)

Well I've just spent 2k on the service to make it work..everything from the HRC mods, exhaust mods with cycleworks & every other bit you can think of as well as the brake lines getting greased out & reconditioned..I have two pages of items & 25 hours of A1 mechanic pain as proof ;)

It used to be easy to get these sort of things done..but more and more I'm finding it rare to have the chance to work "with" the mechanics that fix & service the bike as well as the "managers" feeding you bullshit of this & that..ah the good old days when a man had his word:argue:

Coyote

17th June 2008, 18:56

Your the man:first: I'll come to you for the customer paint job I'm after..either Castrol racing or Black & pearl/silver/Blue Zebra (safari) stripes..let me know how when & what etc :)

Well I've just spent 2k on the service to make it work..everything from the HRC mods, exhaust mods with cycleworks & every other bit you can think of as well as the brake lines getting greased out & reconditioned..I have two pages of items & 25 hours of A1 mechanic pain as proof ;)

It used to be easy to get these sort of things done..but more and more I'm finding it rare to have the chance to work "with" the mechanics that fix & service the bike as well as the "managers" feeding you bullshit of this & that..ah the good old days when a man had his word:argue:
I shouldn't get your hopes up just yet, at Weltec we're not meant to take away jobs away from the industry. Our jobs are usually our own, Weltec tutors or mates of our tutor. However, a few jobs where the hard repair work has been done and it only requires paint are acceptable. If you're another one of the boi racers just looking for free labour you'll get turned away (happens at least once a week :p).

A Castrol racing paintjob would be great fun, a chance to be more creative and one of the schemes I have thought of for my bike.

Gosh, I don't have 2 grand. By the time I start making that money I'd be saving for a ZX10R. I won't be getting rid of my VFR so chances are similar work will get done over a longer period of time.

I solved that by working after school at the local bike store and getting to know the guys there. I was working at sweatshop wages but it was fun.

monkey99

17th June 2008, 19:35

.. few jobs where the hard repair work has been done and it only requires paint are acceptable. If you're another one of the boi racers just looking for free labour you'll get turned away (happens at least once a week :p).

A Castrol racing paintjob would be great fun, a chance to be more creative and one of the schemes I have thought of for my bike.

I solved that by working after school at the local bike store and getting to know the guys there. I was working at sweatshop wages but it was fun.

Well I might just get you about some time to have a look at what kinda repair work you recommend..My hopes have not been up since I realised the mammoth work required to "rebirth" this RVF..:argh:

However, as stated earlier ..:calm: once you have ya bike onside they last like the best steel horses on earth.. so I'll plan at this stage to get a new engine..wire loom..dyno with the CDi

then the paint job:2thumbsup Castrol racing I feel is the way to go..and if you could consult/help the panel repair I might be able to throw $500 at ya for costs and work ( before the paint job):girlfight:

Don't get your hopes up tho..cos its a long cold winter if i don't get that engine etc

Coyote

17th June 2008, 20:44

Well I might just get you about some time to have a look at what kinda repair work you recommend..My hopes have not been up since I realised the mammoth work required to "rebirth" this RVF..:argh:

However, as stated earlier ..:calm: once you have ya bike onside they last like the best steel horses on earth.. so I'll plan at this stage to get a new engine..wire loom..dyno with the CDi

then the paint job:2thumbsup Castrol racing I feel is the way to go..and if you could consult/help the panel repair I might be able to throw $500 at ya for costs and work ( before the paint job):girlfight:

Don't get your hopes up tho..cos its a long cold winter if i don't get that engine etc
Pay would be nice considering my parents are hounding me to get a job and pay them off for the money I got off them for VFR parts, but I wouldn't be able to accept so much considering I'm by no means a professional.

All good if you don't get it sorted for a while. As I said I've got a few other commitments to get through first. And I'll just double check with my tutor how far we're allowed to go before it becomes a "taking away from the industry" kinda thing.

I can't see mine being a reliant workhorse any time soon. At the moment it just sits around looking pretty, if a bit bruised.

Got any photos?

Insanity_rules

18th June 2008, 13:00

Prospective member of your crew here. Looking at this http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-156315310.htm . Had an 87 one new and feeling nostalgic, what do ya think?

vifferman

18th June 2008, 13:05

Had an 87 one new and feeling nostalgic, what do ya think?
Can't really go wrong at that price - it's cheaper'n your average secondhand 250. The only real problem could be getting parts for it, particularly fairing bits if you drop it. The person to ask would be Janal18858 - he's got one of these, and has done quite a bit of work fixing it up. Send him a PM.

Insanity_rules

18th June 2008, 13:07

Can't really go wrong at that price - it's cheaper'n your average secondhand 250. The only real problem could be getting parts for it, particularly fairing bits if you drop it.

Good price eh? Was considering using it as a toy rather than everyday use, but your right about the fairing bits. Could be tricky.

Going up on Friday for a ride.

vifferman

18th June 2008, 13:21

Good price eh? Was considering using it as a toy rather than everyday use.
Yeah, given that there's a 88 CBR250 for sale on here for $3800...
Yup, it'd be a great toy. The "first generation" VFR's are lighter than subsequent ones, and quite attractive.

Coyote

18th June 2008, 17:11

I'm quite keen on getting an old VF750. Also keen on a CBX750, which wouldn't be helping the cause but still an attractive bike I reckon.

Qkchk

18th June 2008, 18:14

So its all go for this Sat?

GerryAttrick

19th June 2008, 08:46

I'm quite keen on getting an old VF750. Also keen on a CBX750, which wouldn't be helping the cause but still an attractive bike I reckon.

I've got a VFR750 and its a lovely bike - much lighter than my 800. Parts are not that hard to get if you trawl the net. I got a side fairing for not too many $US and there is a guy in the States makes very good C/F copies...but you wait a while for them.

Best thing about the VFR800 is you can do some nice upgrades if you feel like it (CBR929shock - just arrived from USA, R1 Front forks- to come) and they will give the sportsbikes a run for their money if they have a good rider on them

VFRs run forever without a lot of problems the pre VTEC ones IN MY OPINION (so no flames) are better but you need to like the cam gear whine- VTECS went back to chains

Also had a CBX750 Bol D'or (RC17) and they are nice bikes too. A bit better for the commuter IMHO as they are more upright. There is a good Aussie site called Team RC17 that covers the CBX750 and they can answer most questions:jerry:

GerryAttrick

19th June 2008, 08:48

So its all go for this Sat?
Well I'll be there unless its pi$$ing down. Look for the old fart in Red Teknics Jacket on a Silver 800

vifferman

19th June 2008, 08:55

Best thing about the VFR800 is you can do some nice upgrades if you feel like it (CBR929shock - just arrived from USA, R1 Front forks- to come)
Huh...
Doing the good ole Frankenviffer thing, Alan? :niceone:
So... we can expect to see it all fettled in ...ooooh... 2020 or thereabouts? :confused:

I won't be coming on the ride - have to go to a poxy BBQ for my wife's work.:rolleyes: Dunno why - she doesn't even like her workmates and hates where she works. Go figger...

GerryAttrick

19th June 2008, 09:02

Huh...
Doing the good ole Frankenviffer thing, Alan? :niceone:
So... we can expect to see it all fettled in ...ooooh... 2020 or thereabouts? :confused:

I won't be coming on the ride - have to go to a poxy BBQ for my wife's work.:rolleyes: Dunno why - she doesn't even like her workmates and hates where she works. Go figger...

Probably be a VF800R1 and get everyone guessing

Can't all spend time faffing around with our bikes:innocent:

Yeah know what you mean took me a coons age to get the PC2 installed and I have asked Motohaus the cost to install my Scottoiler..then theres the Gear Indicator, the voltmeter Yada,Yada,yada. In my defenece I did do the brakes last weekend and repolished the front wheel but ran out of time to do the rear one - maybe tonight. Might even put on some unbroken fairings too

The ride is in the morning - get her pi$$ed the night before and you could probably slip in a ride before she wakes up.:Oops:(Did I reallly write that????- you know what I mean) and be back for the BBQ later.

vifferman

19th June 2008, 09:05

The ride is in the morning - get her pi$$ed the night before and you could probably slip in a ride before she wakes up.:Oops:(Did I reallly write that????- you know what I mean) and be back for the BBQ later.
Sounds like a plan. :niceone:

Qkchk

19th June 2008, 15:48

So is there gonna be any 400's turning up?

Coyote

19th June 2008, 18:17

I've got a VFR750 and its a lovely bike - much lighter than my 800. Parts are not that hard to get if you trawl the net. I got a side fairing for not too many $US and there is a guy in the States makes very good C/F copies...but you wait a while for them.

Best thing about the VFR800 is you can do some nice upgrades if you feel like it (CBR929shock - just arrived from USA, R1 Front forks- to come) and they will give the sportsbikes a run for their money if they have a good rider on them

VFRs run forever without a lot of problems the pre VTEC ones IN MY OPINION (so no flames) are better but you need to like the cam gear whine- VTECS went back to chains

Also had a CBX750 Bol D'or (RC17) and they are nice bikes too. A bit better for the commuter IMHO as they are more upright. There is a good Aussie site called Team RC17 that covers the CBX750 and they can answer most questions:jerry:
Ooo, carbon fibre is always good.

The last model VFR800 you're talking about right? Not the current style?

Switching to chains = the worst thing they could've done to the VFR. The cam gear whine is one of the best things ever, ever. Does the older 800 have cam gears?

I'll check out that site. I'm not too concerned with seating position, though an upright bike might be a good idea.

vifferman

20th June 2008, 09:50

Switching to chains = the worst thing they could've done to the VFR. The cam gear whine is one of the best things ever, ever. Does the older 800 have cam gears?
Yes, it does. They moved the gear drive from the centre of the cams (in the VFR750) to the right-hand end, in 1998 (for the 800). This had two implications: you could no longer flip the cams over to swap between a 180-degree firing order and a 360-degree one, and the gear whine became a bazillion percent louder (approximately). And that's why they dropped gear-driven cams on the later VFRs (so they could meet EC noise emissions regulations).
And the camgear whine on the 800 is rather loud: despite having previously owned a VFR750, it took me over a year to get used to the noise. Friggin cakemixer...

The ride tomorrow:
Is Mr GingaCop going to be coming? If so, I might have to put the restrictor back in the Satantune... (so I can hear the gear whine :rolleyes:)

Swoop

20th June 2008, 09:54

Hopefully there will be a 400 there to admire.

vifferman

20th June 2008, 10:29

Hopefully there will be a 400 there to admire.
Yeah, but will Mr GingaCop be riding it, or ticketing it? [Where's the damned spudwhat emoticodweebicon when you need it?]
I'm sitting on 70 bonus points - I don't really need any more, when I get sprayed with the aderenaline / testosterone surge engendered by the VFR excitement, and somehow find myslef doing 20km/h more than I can afford to...

Swoop

20th June 2008, 10:35

Yeah, but will Mr GingaCop be riding it, or ticketing it? [Where's the damned spudwhat emoticodweebicon when you need it?]
I'm sitting on 70 bonus points - I don't really need any more, when I get sprayed with the aderenaline / testosterone surge engendered by the VFR excitement, and somehow find myslef doing 20km/h more than I can afford to...
Sit behind me with the rest of the Sunday-driver/riders.
Hmm. we seem to have lost the "spud" emoticons... ALL of them!

HenryDorsetCase

20th June 2008, 10:38

Yes, it does. They moved the gear drive from the centre of the cams (in the VFR750) to the right-hand end, in 1998 (for the 800). This had two implications: you could no longer flip the cams over to swap between a 180-degree firing order and a 360-degree one, and the gear whine became a bazillion percent louder (approximately). And that's why they dropped gear-driven cams on the later VFRs (so they could meet EC noise emissions regulations).
And the camgear whine on the 800 is rather loud: despite having previously owned a VFR750, it took me over a year to get used to the noise. Friggin cakemixer...

The ride tomorrow:
Is Mr GingaCop going to be coming? If so, I might have to put the restrictor back in the Satantune... (so I can hear the gear whine :rolleyes:)\\

so the pick of them would be the 1998-2000 model (i.e. bfore the VTEC ones?)

Qkchk

20th June 2008, 10:39

Weather doesnt look shit-hot for tomorrow.

vifferman

20th June 2008, 10:48

so the pick of them would be the 1998-2000 model (i.e. bfore the VTEC ones?)
98-01, to be precise.
The VTec models are actually better in some regards (suspension and handling, they're quieter, they have four (4!) headlights, underseat zorsts, perhaps more modern styling, the DCBS brakes are upgraded slightly to be 'more betterer', they have 12-hole injectors, a digital dash (so your pillion can read your speed over your left shoulder, and give you the bash!), etc etc.
It's a personal (subjective) thing. I'd rather have a 5th Gen (98-01), but most of the 02-08 owners would say their bike is more betterer.
Depends what you want.
Many parts are common, they're not hugely different bikes, and they are both very good. You really need to ride both (back to back) like I did, weigh up the information, and then decide for yourself.

GerryAttrick

20th June 2008, 14:55

98-01, to be precise.
The VTec models are actually better in some regards (suspension and handling, they're quieter, they have four (4!) headlights, underseat zorsts, perhaps more modern styling, the DCBS brakes are upgraded slightly to be 'more betterer', they have 12-hole injectors, a digital dash (so your pillion can read your speed over your left shoulder, and give you the bash!), etc etc.
It's a personal (subjective) thing. I'd rather have a 5th Gen (98-01), but most of the 02-08 owners would say their bike is more betterer.
Depends what you want.
Many parts are common, they're not hugely different bikes, and they are both very good. You really need to ride both (back to back) like I did, weigh up the information, and then decide for yourself.
Wot Vifferman said.

At this stage the ride is still on. If its a bit of "high Humidity" I'll be there anyway even if I have to ride on my own.

Vifferman - want to ride over together or are you gonna decide on the day - if Mrs V is asleep maybe you'll chance your arm?

vifferman

20th June 2008, 16:36

Vifferman - want to ride over together or are you gonna decide on the day - if Mrs V is asleep maybe you'll chance your arm?
I've been given an emailed pass for the ride. Of course, anything could change between now and then. If I don't wimp out, I'll give you a call in the morning.

Swoop

20th June 2008, 22:17

skidMark

20th June 2008, 22:51

The best "pass" is when you have to gear up, silently push the bike 100m down the road and THEN start up for the ride...
Gone before she even wakes up. "Since you were fast asleep, I didn't want to wake you..." :whistle::woohoo::rockon:

Used to have to do that every morning to not wake neighbours up when i let for work

Pain in the arse.:blink:

westie

20th June 2008, 23:21

Used to have to do that every morning to not wake neighbours up when i let for work

Pain in the arse.:blink:

Except for the girlfriend bit and the bike cos you have neither;)

Qkchk

20th June 2008, 23:28

Except for the girlfriend bit and the bike cos you have neither;)

Or the fact the girlfriend had chewed through HER arm......

nico

21st June 2008, 09:09

Swoop

21st June 2008, 14:38

A nice wee ride today guys. Nice to meet you and it was nice to have a sunny day "at the destination"!

Qkchk

21st June 2008, 14:43

A nice wee ride today guys. Nice to meet you and it was nice to have a sunny day "at the destination"!

How many turned up? I wasnt allowed to go, had run out of domestic credits..... (Yeah its usually the other way but I couldnt get out of shovelling bark into wheelbarrows)

Swoop

21st June 2008, 14:46

How many turned up? I wasnt allowed to go, had run out of domestic credits..... (Yeah its usually the other way but I couldnt get out of shovelling bark into wheelbarrows)
Buahahaha!
There were 12 cylinders on the ride...

GerryAttrick

22nd June 2008, 14:52

Buahahaha!
There were 12 cylinders on the ride...

Yep - I guess all the others are "under the Thumb" :shit:

Was a bit foggy over the top and that moss was a bit tricky. Had the bike step out a couple of times on the way home. Real nice sun over at Piha tho.

Good to catch up and put a face to the name.

Who is organising the next one?:confused:

vifferman

23rd June 2008, 09:42

hi vrfians is there any one in the welly area who'd be able to give me a few pointers on servicing the vfr im prety mechanicaly minded just need a little hand on the finer points i hate taking vechicles to shops for a simple service unless really nessacery
chers guys nico :2thumbsup
Go to VFR Discussion (http://www.vfrdiscussion.com) - there's a good maintenance section in there, plus you can ask all the questions you want.

Qkchk

25th June 2008, 13:37

Warr

25th June 2008, 22:32

Anyone want to re-power their NC30? :woohoo:

This guy has '99 VFR800 parts and motor for sale in Auckland.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-accessories/Engine-drive-train/auction-162343981.htm

Yes that came up on my favouriates... crashed in 2001. No mention of what the motor has been doing since then. Likely to have been sitting... rusting and seizing. Will happily give that a wide birth :)

VFR

26th June 2008, 09:21

u scrape the hero blobs on the VFR ? HOLY Shit mate u got balls. OKAY then its official i must be a wussy for corners,hat of to u.

VFR

26th June 2008, 09:26

any idea how much oil the VFR Vtec 1 front shock must have, Somehow it leaks and need to repair it.Got the seals at a good price from the agents.
I assume it is AFT oil ?

Mountlocal1

26th June 2008, 14:34

I have posted this on vfrd as well... I am looking very seriously at a current model VFR800 as my next bike. There will never be a pillion but I will be getting the factory luggage as I have a 5 week south island coming up in the future...

A couple of people have made the comment that I may be a bit big for a VFR... I am 6.2 and around 100kg. I had another sit on one today after throwing my leg over a Sprint ST1050 and it did feel a little small. Still very comy but just small...

Anyone know of anyone my size that owns one?

Warr

26th June 2008, 14:50

I am looking very seriously at a current model VFR800 as my next bike. There will never be a pillion but I will be getting the factory luggage as I have a 5 week south island coming up in the future...

A couple of people have made the comment that I may be a bit big for a VFR... I am 6.2 and around 100kg. I had another sit on one today after throwing my leg over a Sprint ST1050 and it did feel a little small. Still very comy but just small...

Anyone know of anyone my size that owns one?
Ask the same question on www.vfrdiscussion.com Lots of owners there :)

Mountlocal1

26th June 2008, 15:01

Ask the same question on www.vfrdiscussion.com Lots of owners there :)

Warren... Clean your specs and re read my post..... Ha ha.. Yep got a ton of answers and the answer was not a problem. Guys that are 125kg and 6.4 are riding them happily with just a spring change in the front.

Thanks heaps

Warr

26th June 2008, 15:07

Warren... Clean your specs and re read my post..... Ha ha.. Yep got a ton of answers and the answer was not a problem. Guys that are 125kg and 6.4 are riding them happily with just a spring change in the front.

Thanks heaps
Yep all clean now :)

vifferman

26th June 2008, 15:17

Guys that are 125kg and 6.4 are riding them happily with just a spring change in the front.
A good place to get springs from is Sonic Springs (http://www.sonicsprings.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=25_57&osCsid=12a587b3eb3ce723e48c1eed93d22ac3) - they're cheaper than Racetech or Hyperpro, efficient, helpful, and will send to NZ.
The price is US$79.95, plus shipping.

Swoop

26th June 2008, 15:58

A couple of people have made the comment that I may be a bit big for a VFR... I am 6.2 and around 100kg. I had another sit on one today after throwing my leg over a Sprint ST1050 and it did feel a little small. Still very comy but just small...

Anyone know of anyone my size that owns one?
I'm 6'-1 1/2" and she fits fine. You'll find the seat comfortable as well.
I guess the only way is to have a test ride, if a dealer will allow one. The small problem is that dealers have difficulty keeping one on the shop floor as a demo.

vifferman

26th June 2008, 16:18

I'm 6'-1 1/2" and she fits fine.
I'm marginally shorter, and the bike's OK. Seems to fit underneath me OK. :shifty:

You'll find the seat comfortable as well.
Or not.

I guess the only way is to have a test ride, if a dealer will allow one. The small problem is that dealers have difficulty keeping one on the shop floor as a demo.
I had no problem with test rides, and the dealer I went to had a multitude of them.
I suspect the real reason the model wasn't updated in 2006 (and 2007 and 2008) was that they are not a very fast seller compared to other models. Smaller dealers may not want to let their one or two VFRs be test-ridden, and may be loath to buy more in, due to their price and slow-movingness (saleswise).

nico

28th June 2008, 08:54

steering seems funny???

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hi all, am wondering if im just imaging things but when im riding in a straight line my right bar seems loweror closer to the tank than the left really weird have tryyed to gestamate mesuare wile riding and the eye omitor telling me it';s not straight there is slight wear on the front tyre but not enough to confurm my suspustion has any one heard of this hapening before???? any advice /
bike is a 94 vfr750f
if any one could offer advice would be great she's my comutor and im on extreme budget like every one else round here

chers nico

Mountlocal1

29th June 2008, 20:01

Hey guys...

Just found this video of Warr on youtube.. Hope you dont mind me posting it Warren.. one question though... when did you get a red Vfr? :innocent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHKjGvdQKBY

Warr

30th June 2008, 17:37

:clap::clap:
My secret is out. Machine is a bit newer than mine tho :)

Swoop

30th June 2008, 19:18

:clap::clap:
My secret is out. Machine is a bit newer than mine tho :)
Less maintenance needed as well...:blip:

vifferman

1st July 2008, 09:00

steering seems funny???
There are several possibilities, Nico:
- The frame is 'tweaked' (has a bend in it from a crash). Very hard to determine if this is the case, and not easy to fix. Also fairly unlikely.
- The fork tubes are not straight (http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33329), and not parallel to one another. (See this article (http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=38630) too).
- Your clip-ons (handlebar ends) are not mounted exactly the same as one another. There is a very small amount of movement possible in them - loosen the nuts and see if you can move them a bit.
- It's just camber in the road, and you're unconsciously correcting for it when riding to keep your bike in a straight line.
- All of the above.

nico

3rd July 2008, 09:54

thanks vifferman i decided to seek some profional help glad is did hers why wht i hadnt notced was the lower pinch bolt was cracked and unable to tighten this wasnt the main cause but it ssertilaly did not help things at all after the mechanic took front off he put back together seemd to think it was the fork alignment aswell seems ok now still feels a bit out but he said il may not go with a little uneaven wear on front tyre once new tyre fitted shuld be sweet as a nut.

vifferman

3rd July 2008, 11:05

A good result. :niceone:
Best not to take chances with your safety, huh?

Ragingrob

3rd July 2008, 13:36

Hey guys I'm in the market for nc30 VFR400 front brake discs. Any ideas of good quality but well priced discs? Anyone got some through ebay or overseas?

Cheers!

skidMark

3rd July 2008, 13:42

Except for the girlfriend bit and the bike cos you have neither;)

Girlfriend no....

Bike?

Think what you wish.

moT

3rd July 2008, 13:48

anyone interested in buying a vfr400 race bike? http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1632818#post1632818

Coyote

3rd July 2008, 18:21

A good result. :niceone:
Best not to take chances with your safety, huh?
Phff, I've been running no front brakes for weeks now. Before then I had a busted shock that tried to buck me off every chance it got.

But I suppose if you value your life, by all means...

Hey guys I'm in the market for nc30 VFR400 front brake discs. Any ideas of good quality but well priced discs? Anyone got some through ebay or overseas?

Cheers!
Yo. I got these several months ago: http://tyga-performance.com/site/product_info.php?cPath=72_83_152&products_id=1102

For a set of two, after shipping, cost $420 (though with exchange rates this could've changed a fair bit). But I've had some problems with them. My brakes have had a judder since one of them is warped, and possibly the second one is too. TYGA Performance were very good since after I told them this they sent me another new disk. Due to money and time I've yet to fit it on and see if the problem has been resolved.

Since they sent me a new one I don't want to advise against them. Chances are it was the shipping company that would've dropped the box which would be enough to warp the disks. However, the disks do rust easily. Put a bit of water on them and overnight they're orange. Plus they may be wearing out a bit quick, though since one is warped I can't really tell.

They are almost half the price of any other disks you can get for the VFR, and about the same price as worn out ones from the wreckers that are in the same condition as the ones I was replacing. Plus TYGA gave me a free T-Shirt, stickers and pens :D

If you've got the cash, the $700+ pair from NZ (FGB disks?) would be the best option. Plus they make a wavy disk variety which looks awesome. The TYGA disks look great so long as you pump the brakes to get the rust off them :p

I also got a rear disk. The bike shop got it in for me. $200 and came with free brake pads. Don't know what brand it was but I'm sure any bike dealer would get you the same disk for a similar deal.

westie

3rd July 2008, 19:07

Girlfriend no....

Bike?

Think what you wish.

ok.........

Warr

3rd July 2008, 19:57

Hey guys I'm in the market for nc30 VFR400 front brake discs. Any ideas of good quality but well priced discs? Anyone got some through ebay or overseas?

Cheers!

Have you seen here http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=163920965

Ragingrob

4th July 2008, 10:39

I need the complete discs not just the rotors ay. Here is what I've found, but people do say to stay away from the chinese/hong kong variety... What do you guys think?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Front-Brake-Disc-Honda-CBR-CB-900-400%2FVFR-RVF-1000-400_W0QQitemZ180259856745QQcmdZViewItem?IMSfp=TL08 0701092a31621

That's from Hong Kong.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-Front-Brake-Disc-Honda-CBR-900-VTR-VFR-Awesome_W0QQitemZ110266233175QQihZ001QQcategoryZ35 230QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Those ones are from Aussie.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Honda-RVF-VTR1000F-RS-CBR400-900_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35592QQihZ016QQitem Z260257935736QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

And those are from China...

I'm thinking that perhaps the ones from Aussie would be the way to go?

Cheers.

Ragingrob

4th July 2008, 16:11

Gah damn links :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-Front-Brake-Disc-Honda-CBR-900-VTR-VFR-Awesome_W0QQitemZ110266233175QQihZ001QQcategoryZ35 230QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Front-Brake-Disc-Honda-CBR-CB-900-400-VFR-RVF-1000-400_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35592QQihZ008QQitem Z180260342859QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Honda-RVF-VTR1000F-RS-CBR400-900_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35592QQihZ016QQitem Z260257935736QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

The general consensus seems to be that the same discs will fit all those as listed in the auctions...

Warr

4th July 2008, 16:56

The general consensus seems to be that the same discs will fit all those as listed in the auctions...
Yes seems to be the way with Honda, on my model 750 the thou of the cam vintage is identical.
Did you talk to Malcolm at Ecohonda about discs.

Ragingrob

4th July 2008, 17:06

Yes seems to be the way with Honda, on my model 750 the thou of the cam vintage is identical.
Did you talk to Malcolm at Ecohonda about discs.

Ah no I haven't emailed Econohonda as of yet. Will do that right now and see what they get back to me with. I've inquired about some things through them before and they seemed rather pricey though...

Mountlocal1

4th July 2008, 19:23

Found these on the net... What ya think? I like em...

Ragingrob

4th July 2008, 21:25

Yes seems to be the way with Honda, on my model 750 the thou of the cam vintage is identical.
Did you talk to Malcolm at Ecohonda about discs.

Malcolm just quoted me $550 for a pair of discs... <_< :no:

mark247

5th July 2008, 05:20

Malcolm just quoted me $550 for a pair of discs... <_< :no:

I paid $400 for a set of slightly worn genuine honda discs.

Warr

5th July 2008, 12:39

Malcolm just quoted me $550 for a pair of discs... <_< :no:
Ouch.. Only other NZ source would be.. They have all listed VFR400 parts for dismantling in the Marketplace Publication

Anderson Motorcycle Wreckers, PO Box 5114, 44 Tallyho Street, Rotorua, Contact Ian Anderson, Phone & Fax 07-347-0804.

Steve Green Enterprises, 428 Waitarere Beach Road, RD 4, Levin, Phone 06-368-8945 AH, 027-600-8339, Email: stevegreen@xtra.co.nz or Website: www.workshopmanuals.co.nz

Manawatu Motorcycles, PO Box 2072, 32 Andrew Young Street, Palmerston North, Contact Paul De Lautour, Phone & Fax 06-357-7216.

There is an Austrailan place that does good product, but their name escapes me!

Ragingrob

5th July 2008, 12:42

Ouch.. Only other NZ source would be.. They have all listed VFR400 parts for dismantling in the Marketplace Publication

Anderson Motorcycle Wreckers, PO Box 5114, 44 Tallyho Street, Rotorua, Contact Ian Anderson, Phone & Fax 07-347-0804.

Steve Green Enterprises, 428 Waitarere Beach Road, RD 4, Levin, Phone 06-368-8945 AH, 027-600-8339, Email: stevegreen@xtra.co.nz or Website: www.workshopmanuals.co.nz

Manawatu Motorcycles, PO Box 2072, 32 Andrew Young Street, Palmerston North, Contact Paul De Lautour, Phone & Fax 06-357-7216.

There is an Austrailan place that does good product, but their name escapes me!

Cheers for those contacts. My mate has found some original VTR1000 discs on ebay for $69US buy now which I assume are used but in still great condition. I will shop around a bit and see what my best options turn out to be.

Warr

5th July 2008, 13:32

This guy used to be around. Customers not always 100% satisfied, so you'd want a watertight guarantee

Graham Cornes
FGB
POwer Motorcycles
Waihi
021 616295

motorbyclist

16th July 2008, 02:52

wow, i only just find this thread now after failing the "preservation" side of my vfr.... bugger

crynsie

16th July 2008, 18:07

GerryAttrick

17th July 2008, 08:51

Ok all VFR fans, time to dig deep into the grey matter...

Due to my spill / off / bin / fairing crushing incident :doh:, I am getting a full set of fairings welded, sanded, prepped and painted by the talented team at Reflections.

My first instinct is to go with a red, white blue tricolor scheme similar to the tricolor Gen6.

Another train of thought is to go with an authentic racing colour scheme from 1995 (the year my bike was born)

Does anyone know who was racing vfr750's at that time and what (if any) the factory racing colours / scheme was.

I have a completely blank canvas to work with and I want to make it something special rather than the block standard colours of red, blue and I think there was a yellow...

Can anyone help?

Google is your friend...try googling RC30 & RC45. That will give you all you want to know about Honda VFR Race bikes.

I have also emailed a mate on OZVFR. He is a bit of an Oracle re these bikes so he may join the list and reply.

If it was me I'd be picking one of Joey Dunlops bikes to replicate. He was the greatest rider of Hondas V4 EVER!!

http://images.google.co.nz/images?hl=en&q=Joey%20Dunlop%20photos&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Qkchk

17th July 2008, 08:57

Found these on the net... What ya think? I like em...

Haha ya gotta get a bike to put them on first.. :lol:

Dave-

9th August 2008, 16:42

sorry quick question, and I know this is an RVF buut,

is this sacrilege?

http://tyga-performance.com/newrc211v/redstandfrontright.jpg

the race rep imo is a bit wanky, but the fairings with a nice design of some kind?

yes? no? fuck off dave-?

steved

9th August 2008, 17:59

Dave-

9th August 2008, 18:08

3750 for the bits (plus 1 or 2 wee carbon fibre bitties) plus an RVF400

there's one on trademe atm that would be good, current bid is like $3500, fairings are bit broke (toss out), dent in the tank (bog + paint job anyway), dent in front rim (can be fixed aparently)

im also looking at $1000 for paint

plus time?

$8000? im gonna say $9000 to be safe.

motorbyclist

10th August 2008, 01:58

racefactory

10th August 2008, 03:12

hey guys! VFR nc30 here, lovely bike!

cracked my oil sump today tightening the sump bolt! didnt think it was that torqued.

anyone got a sump?

nico

10th August 2008, 10:51

Swoop

10th August 2008, 14:51

hey all did a vfr ride hapen or are we wating for some better weather for the softer ones?:niceone: coud i sujest a ride from welly up east coast or something open to any ones elses ideas posibly a overnighter lets bounce some ideasa around anf vfr's unite :first:
There was a small group that did a little ride in Auckland. I would suggest that localised get-togethers happen in each region. Just say a place and time, then see who is interested.

motorbyclist

11th August 2008, 22:59

hey guys! VFR nc30 here, lovely bike!

cracked my oil sump today tightening the sump bolt! didnt think it was that torqued.

anyone got a sump?

:slap:

how badly cracked? is it possibly weldable?

Paul_C

7th December 2008, 08:51

Yess... i'm finally eligible for the club...

I'm thinking about putting a Power Commander on. Has anyone else added one? Worth the money?

vifferman

7th December 2008, 08:59

Yess... i'm finally eligible for the club...
Nice bike. :niceone:
Great riding gear too - perfect for summer!:wari:

Highlander

7th December 2008, 09:16

Nice bike. :niceone:
Great riding gear too - perfect for summer!:wari:

Not colour coordinated to the bike though.

Paul_C

7th December 2008, 19:56

Nice bike. :niceone:
Great riding gear too - perfect for summer!:wari:

When you're as good a rider as I am you don't need protection :laugh:

Seriously though. I've been riding all weekend and I can't believe how comprehensively better my new bike is than my Hyobag! Bring on the rest of summer! :Punk:

racefactory

8th December 2008, 09:28

So guys when are we going to go for the first Force V4 owners ride?

Here are my beloved V4's.

Swoop

8th December 2008, 13:55

So guys when are we going to go for the first Force V4 owners ride?
It occurred mid winter.

You are permitted to organise another though!:2thumbsup

2 V4's. Good work!!

motorbyclist

8th December 2008, 14:05

there's actually 3 v4s in thos pictures ;)

vifferman

8th December 2008, 14:05

2 V4's. Good work!!
Indeed. :yes:
I've only ever momentarily had two bikes back in 2000, when I bought the VFR750 before I sold the VF500. The vifferbabe was not amused.
She was also not amused recently when she came across a photo I took at the time. :oi-grr:
I felt like a king though, being able to say to myself, "Now... which bike shall I ride today...?"

vifferman

8th December 2008, 14:06

there's actually 3 v4s in thos pictures ;)
So there is! :blink:

cheshirecat

8th December 2008, 14:16

Was I the only VFR at the Toy Run, or is my eye sight failing, or did you all take "the Other Bike"

Swoop

8th December 2008, 16:48

Indeed. :yes:
I've only ever momentarily had two bikes back in 2000, when I bought the VFR750 before I sold the VF500. The vifferbabe was not amused.
She was also not amused recently when she came across a photo I took at the time. :oi-grr:
I felt like a king though, being able to say to myself, "Now... which bike shall I ride today...?"
Likewise. A 700 & a 750.:hug:

racefactory

8th December 2008, 16:51

Didn't know there has already been one! Oh that's right i wasn't even a KB'er at that time.

How many bikes turned out at the V4 ride then?

racefactory

8th December 2008, 16:55

Is there anyone on KB with an RC30?

Coyote

8th December 2008, 17:24

Is there anyone on KB with an RC30?
Not sure. But one of my Dad's mates (who I get along with too) had one. A race bike with all the HRC parts available and suspension modified in the U.K. Has the powerband of a lightswitch apparently. Putting out near 140hp (damned good for an old 750).

Not sure if he still has it. He had to sell several of his old bikes and a car for it. And it's too much of a race bike for him (old back and everything) and everything is fairly brittle for a road bike. One pothole and the flash magnesium wheels would be ruined. Think he was planning on selling it. I should've asked for a go but I didn't want to be an arse and put that pressure on him. Maybe if he's still got it I'll ask and say "I break it, I buy it".

GerryAttrick

8th December 2008, 19:31

Still got two VFRs in my garage - '86 750 and '98 800....but the 750 goes to my brother as soon as he sells his MT125 Elsinore and clears space.

I reckon we have time for one more ride before Christmas - not weekend of 19th tho.

I suggest either Raglan or Waipu for a Pizza.:woohoo:

Lets see what interest there is out there. Who's up for organising it?

racefactory

8th December 2008, 22:36

sounds good.

racefactory

8th December 2008, 22:44

Has the powerband of a lightswitch apparently. Putting out near 140hp (damned good for an old 750).

That would be a total weapon. You should try get a ride!

GerryAttrick

9th December 2008, 11:24

VFR400 parts for sale - in OZ.

I have no connection whatsover with the seller and no idea if prices are OK

http://www.fireblades.org/forums/for-sale/71080-vfr-400-parts.html

GerryAttrick

9th December 2008, 11:26

Anyone (in Auckland area) got an 87 or 88 VFR750?

I need to have a look at it so my brother can make up some stainless steel fairing stays for one.

Oh and if you have an '86 he has a set of those in Stainless that are a work of art that he might just be tempted to sell.

Swoop

9th December 2008, 11:53

I suggest either Raglan or Waipu for a Pizza.:woohoo:
SH22 is crappier than a crappy thing at the moment...

Interceptor

10th December 2008, 21:44

Was I the only VFR at the Toy Run, or is my eye sight failing, or did you all take "the Other Bike"

There was 3 x VFR800 (looked like 06/07 models) at the Auckland BRONZ Toy Run this past Saturday. Represent!!!

vfr750

11th December 2008, 11:16

Was I the only VFR at the Toy Run, or is my eye sight failing, or did you all take "the Other Bike"

Mine was the one in Stealth Black.

nico

11th December 2008, 13:12

Mine was the one in Stealth Black.
i was tooo much of a numb nuts and forgot all about it shame on me i stayed home a polished more bike bitz instead :2thumbsup

vagrant

11th December 2008, 13:23

Is there anyone on KB with an RC30?

Yup, even tho it doesn't look like it much at the moment. :weep:
Engine is full of HRC goodness, and does about 127 horsies at the wheel. It will happily pootle round in top gear at 50K and still pull away to lots and lots.

Wheels by Marchesini, Brakes by EBC, Springy bits by Ohlins and Dr Rob. Engine bits and Rads by HRC and Moriwake.

Fairings by, someone want to do me a deal on a paint job??

The bike has been undergoing a very long rebuild, and was intended to be a starter for pre 89's. (still is, just maybe not this summer I guess)

If any other RC drivers want a 5.5 x 17 Marchesini rear, in white or black, give me a PM. Or a Termignoni exhaust, either full, slipon, twin or single can, let me know.

cheshirecat

11th December 2008, 16:51

i was tooo much of a numb nuts and forgot all about it shame on me i stayed home a polished more bike bitz instead :2thumbsup

As a matter of interest, I'm getting 270/280 k faffing around in town. I have a sneaking suspicion this is below norm. (It's a 94 ).
Someone in a UK forum was getting 50/55 mpg average on his vfr800 which is significantly more but don't know if this is better fuel or slightly bigger tank.

It's about the only thing on the bike I can quibble about.

Coyote

11th December 2008, 17:31

Fairings by, someone want to do me a deal on a paint job??

Just painted the lower half and the tail of my NC30. Moving onto the front and tank tomorrow unless some friends tear me away from it, then it'll wait till Monday. I'll post up some photos on here and if you like them maybe we could organise something :D

It's being painted a RC30/VTR-SP inspired scheme. Blue across the front fairing and top of the tank followed by white down just below where the side and bottom fairing attach, then black all along the bottom. Then a red honda wing, VTR style, will go on top of the white. Tail is white number plates on black. And gold pinstripe, RC30 style, in between each colour.

Only problem is distance though. Whenuapai is up north innit? I'm near Wellington

racefactory

11th December 2008, 20:29

Vagrant- best of luck with the bike, damn I'd love to see that thing!

Would you mind sharing how much a machine such as yours can go for today?

PirateJafa

11th December 2008, 22:34

Todd: You'd be pretty much forced to import one.

I've wanted one for aaaages. What a pipe dream. :)

vifferman

12th December 2008, 08:28

As a matter of interest, I'm getting 270/280 k faffing around in town.
What does that mean?

Someone in a UK forum was getting 50/55 mpg average on his vfr800 which is significantly more but don't know if this is better fuel or slightly bigger tank.
I get 43 mpg, mostly communtering. It might be better on a long cruise, but I can't remember when I last did one of those.
It might be better if I reconnected the O2 sensors and disconnected the PCII, but that would be a Tui Moment.

GerryAttrick

12th December 2008, 08:44

As a matter of interest, I'm getting 270/280 k faffing around in town. I have a sneaking suspicion this is below norm. (It's a 94 ).
Someone in a UK forum was getting 50/55 mpg average on his vfr800 which is significantly more but don't know if this is better fuel or slightly bigger tank.

It's about the only thing on the bike I can quibble about.

I have a '98 VFR800 and get around 280/290kms per tank on an 11km commute thru Auckland. Chuck in a couple of decent runs and it will go up to around 320k. On a trip at less than warp drive might be good for a tad more but I'd say 33ok would be about it.

I have a (untuned) PC2 and Arrow can and the thing probably needs a good tune

GerryAttrick

12th December 2008, 08:49

Yup, even tho it doesn't look like it much at the moment. :weep:
Engine is full of HRC goodness, and does about 127 horsies at the wheel. It will happily pootle round in top gear at 50K and still pull away to lots and lots.

Wheels by Marchesini, Brakes by EBC, Springy bits by Ohlins and Dr Rob. Engine bits and Rads by HRC and Moriwake.

Fairings by, someone want to do me a deal on a paint job??

The bike has been undergoing a very long rebuild, and was intended to be a starter for pre 89's. (still is, just maybe not this summer I guess)

If any other RC drivers want a 5.5 x 17 Marchesini rear, in white or black, give me a PM. Or a Termignoni exhaust, either full, slipon, twin or single can, let me know.

Hi Vagrant,

Is that a replacement fairing or the original? I'd love to see that bike in the flesh (the bike not me). Sure sounds like the dogs B****cks motorwise. Any history or is it "just" a road bike

pritch

12th December 2008, 09:18

I'm thinking about putting a Power Commander on. Has anyone else added one? Worth the money?

I had one on the Hornet, loved it, haven't fitted one to the VFR. I bought the unit from the USA and it was cheaper that what you can buy them for here.

To get full value from the PC though you need to get a custom map; $100 for a base run and $300.00 for the custom map run three years ago now...

I'd like one for the VFR but that cost, plus travel to Auckland or Tauranga, plus accomodation plus plus plus...

vifferman

12th December 2008, 09:30

I'd like one for the VFR but that cost, plus travel to Auckland or Tauranga, plus accomodation plus plus plus...
Meh - you can rule out accommodation (plenty of hospitable KBers), and the travel is a bonus.
My PCII is running just a zero map with a few tweaks where it felt boggy or laggy. I tried all the maps from the Interdweeb, and they were all crap.
So I figured that if it felt better'n nothing, then it was a bonus.
I was running advanced ignition and extra fuel at high revs / large throttle openings, then decided it wasn't worth running 98 octane just for the odd thrill. Can't use that on the open road anyway.

I've toyed with getting a custom map done, but I was concerned that it would be all full throttle stuff on the Dyno, and my only issues are with small throttle openings anyway, and that's pretty much sorted now, so what's the point? So, a custom map is in the same basket at the moment as getting the forks revalved, balancing the starter valves, checking the valve clearances, getting the fairings repainted, etc etc. It'll never happen coz the vifferbabe will bleat about it.

Swoop

13th December 2008, 19:53

Well. A pleasant run down 22 and then hang a left to Huntly today. Then south to Quasi's place for a chat and purchase. Back northwards to west Auckland to refill the tank...
295km and still two bars showing on the fuel gauge, so proberly another 40(?)km to go.

Quite happy about that.

wbks

14th December 2008, 16:01

Yup, even tho it doesn't look like it much at the moment. :weep:
Engine is full of HRC goodness, and does about 127 horsies at the wheel. It will happily pootle round in top gear at 50K and still pull away to lots and lots.

Wheels by Marchesini, Brakes by EBC, Springy bits by Ohlins and Dr Rob. Engine bits and Rads by HRC and Moriwake.

Fairings by, someone want to do me a deal on a paint job??

The bike has been undergoing a very long rebuild, and was intended to be a starter for pre 89's. (still is, just maybe not this summer I guess)

If any other RC drivers want a 5.5 x 17 Marchesini rear, in white or black, give me a PM. Or a Termignoni exhaust, either full, slipon, twin or single can, let me know.

How do you get all the HRC stuff to do 127 at the wheel?

motorbyclist

14th December 2008, 20:52

saw a rothmans racing rc30 today at autobahn

looked mint but for the ducati rim on the rear

racefactory

14th December 2008, 21:21

mean you should have gotten a v4 pic of your big brother for us!

vfxdog

15th December 2008, 07:17

Is there anyone on KB with an RC30?

I was lucky enough to find a brand new NZ-market one for sale in the UK a few years back. I bought it, and it's sitting in my office over there, still with 1Km on it. I've also got a kitted one I use on the road from time to time when I'm visiting London on business.

Sweet bikes.

Swoop

15th December 2008, 07:51

They are of NO use over there!

Bring them to NZ, pronto!!!:woohoo::yes:

vfxdog

15th December 2008, 08:19

You are right. Motorcycling in the UK has become something of a pain, what with the speed cameras of various kinds, huge gain in traffic density, the general cutbacks in road maintenance, and the vast increase in the number of diesel vehicles on the road belching out their fumes and spraying foam out of the filler caps on every roundabout. Not to mention the many foreign drivers who can't.

I'm going to pop into customs early Jan and find out what the deal is with bringing multiple bikes into NZ.

PirateJafa

15th December 2008, 08:22

I'm going to pop into customs early Jan and find out what the deal is with bring multiple bikes into NZ.

I'll tell ya for one of the RCs.

Hell I'd even pay the shipping. :drool:

Will be good to see more on the road. Rare as rocking-horse shit at the moment.

vfxdog

15th December 2008, 08:46

There's one on US eBay right now- bids starting at US$50K; buy it now at $100K. Even though they are rare, I don't think so, somehow...

Coyote

15th December 2008, 10:53

There's one on US eBay right now- bids starting at US$50K; buy it now at $100K. Even though they are rare, I don't think so, somehow...
I've seen ones for sale here for $40,000 New Zealand bucks. I think you're right.

How do you get all the HRC stuff to do 127 at the wheel?
Don't know about his bike, but my Dad's mate's one with all the HRC goodies had pistons, radiators, valves, conrods, gears, wiring loom, everything replaced. All that stuff easily adds up to that power, but also makes the bike very fragile and expensive to fix (which is sooner since lighter parts don't last as long).

For those VFRPS members that haven't seen, here's how my bike is looking: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1851236#post1851236

wbks

15th December 2008, 11:14

I thought it was pretty hard to buy HRC stuff unless its second hand

vfxdog

15th December 2008, 12:06

I thought it was pretty hard to buy HRC stuff unless its second hand

You can still buy HRC stuff from Honda for the RC45, but the '30 goodies are long gone. Every now and then a stash of parts turns up, some used, some new, often as spares with an ex-racebike.
A lot of used HRC stuff is coming on the market now as people convert their racers back to street bikes, which appeal more to the collectors unless there's serious racing history. The TT-winning Fogarty bike sold a short while for just a few thousand pounds more than a stock, zero-mileage RC30. Despite what one may think of Fogarty, that was a bargain.
Luckily for people with tweaked '30's, there are quite a few around and that has created something of a demand for parts to be remanufactured, so the HRC-pattern pistons and other critical motor parts are now coming available again.

wbks

15th December 2008, 13:57

vfxdog

15th December 2008, 14:44

Oh ok. I would have thought it would be a bit of a process to buy parts off honda HRC unless you are a recocnised racer. Like MC21 racing ignition (I think?) needed to be bought with some kind of race licence as its illegal for road use.

Well, your mileage may vary but in my experience, if you have the part number, the money, and it's in the Honda parts system, you can buy it.

motorbyclist

15th December 2008, 15:46

wbks

15th December 2008, 17:02

not in this country...HOT SH**:woohoo:...Well, would be if I had the money... And a Honda:sweatdrop

HenryDorsetCase

25th March 2009, 10:06

As some will be aware, I have an NC30 track bike, and I also own another NC30 in pieces (bought just because it had rego on hold, and an RVF rear wheel)

Just looking at this stuff in my garage, and some NC30's with Tyga bodywork on the 'net and whatnot*, it occurred to me to wonder whethar anyone had gotten or tried to get a VFR800 motor into an NC30 chassis? an NC30 motor is quite big, and I cant imagine a VFR800 motor being much bigger.

Imagine, if you will, an NC30 (or 35) with 800cc and a straight pipe! Given RC30's and RC45's are almost unobtainable (and REALLY expensive) here, might not this be the way forward for people in love with the V-4 concept?

*I also have the latest Performance bikes mag at home and a guy had an FZR400 which he has stapled a worked 997cc Fireblade motor into.

anybody got access to a meausring tape and some hammers, zip ties and duct tape and want to give it a whirl? Enquiring minds and all that.

vifferman

25th March 2009, 10:58

I would expect the 800 engine to at least be taller, which could be an issue.

HenryDorsetCase

25th March 2009, 13:15

Coyote

25th March 2009, 19:56

I'm planning to implant an SP1 motor in mine.

I shit you not.

Not a V4, but it has cam gears.

HenryDorsetCase

25th March 2009, 21:41

I'm planning to implant an SP1 motor in mine.

I shit you not.

Not a V4, but it has cam gears.

Holy shit! That I want to see pictures of! You must be planning on using the RC51 rads as well, yes?

GerryAttrick

26th March 2009, 08:18

I reckon it would be minimal and the height wouldnt be too much of an issue because the frame goes around the motor. might have to faff about with the tank/cover/airbox/fuel cell but the bore and stroke of the 800 is 72 x 48 and the 400 is 55 x 42. things like motor mounts and countershaft sprocket position would be interesting.

just idle speculation.

Sure the bore and stroke might not seem like much of a difference but I'll bet the weight being up higher would stuff up what must be a sweet handling wee bike. One day maybe I'll get to try one for a decent ride and not just round the block. Might even manage to pick up a real cheapy to turn into a track bike - or even a road bike if it has all the bits:niceone:

Would fill the space soon to be vacated by my VFR750 nicely

Oops - just remembered my brother is dropping off his 1973 MT125 Elsinore to me to sell so that HE has room for the 750. Anyone want a classic off road bike in real good nick?

GerryAttrick

26th March 2009, 08:27

OK Folks winter is nigh.

Must be time to get another road ride in while we can still stay dry?

I thought maybe a ride up from Westgate through to Dairy Flat/Silverdale(or similar) and then on to maybe Matakana or Waipu might be worth a spin?

What do you reckon - suggestions for a route and destination welcome. Just don't plan it for Easter or 24 April weekend and I am a starter.

Oh and it would be nice if some of the "Baby VFRs" could make it out into the light of day (or are they only for polishing?):rolleyes:

If you prefer another route then maybe the Howick/Clevedon one to Miranda could be OK too.

mark247

26th March 2009, 08:35

Oh and it would be nice if some of the "Baby VFRs" could make it out into the light of day (or are they only for polishing?):rolleyes:

No no not just for polishing, my shiny beast managed to do 1300km last weekend without blowing up which was a bonus!

HenryDorsetCase

26th March 2009, 08:38

S Anyone want a classic off road bike in real good nick?

God yes. do I have any realistic prospect of owning one at this point? Sadly not.... :(

motorbyclist

26th March 2009, 23:21

I reckon it would be minimal and the height wouldnt be too much of an issue because the frame goes around the motor. might have to faff about with the tank/cover/airbox/fuel cell but the bore an

the motor is WAY bigger, in all directions. the SP would be a better fit

it also weighs a fair bit more, so would really mess with the handling (and stress the frame a bit)

over the summer i saw that haldanes had a racing homologated, road legal, 2,100km, 1998 HONDA RVF750 in mint condition

and only wanted $34k for it :drool:

i had a sit and felt the weight of it. could feel it was heavy but the low centre of gravity meant it was still relatively easy to flick around - I WANT ONE

should've seen the looks i got when it was on display at a bbq thing after the ATNR and i rocked up on the little version of it :D

GerryAttrick

27th March 2009, 06:20

God yes. do I have any realistic prospect of owning one at this point? Sadly not.... :(

Maybe you do - this one will probably go for under a grand - probably $750(Have been asking him for pics but he has not come across yet) and if you are a haggler then chance your arm. I know he wants the space - and so do I.

I have even decided to sell my unused Minimoto. I really wanted to use that bike but sadly my old bones can't fold up enough to fit the thing. Now shove a VFR800 in THAT and it should move - in fact the VFR400 might even do the trick.
It goes up on TradeMe this weekend $160 no reserve so if anyone wants to make the same offer first its yours- and I'll' throw in another unused frame in case you are a big bastard and break the original.:2thumbsup.

Sorry for hijacking a VFR thread but it does have some VFR content

koba

27th March 2009, 06:32

I had a giggle last night when I heard the exhaust not of the new R1.
Everyone around was commenting on how great it sounds.
Its almost the same as my NC21!

motorbyclist

27th March 2009, 11:54

I had a giggle last night when I heard the exhaust not of the new R1.
Everyone around was commenting on how great it sounds.
Its almost the same as my NC21!

that would be because it is essentially a V4 motor now with their "crosswank technology"

koba

27th March 2009, 20:03

that would be because it is essentially a V4 motor now with their "crosswank technology"

haha, yeah funny aye.

GerryAttrick

30th March 2009, 07:23

Holy shit! That I want to see pictures of! You must be planning on using the RC51 rads as well, yes?

I passed this idea past a mate of mine who is into quite informed about the various interchangeability of Honda Bits. His reply is:
"I think 'JZH' in the UK has looked into this (he has 400, 750 and 800 VFRs), and IIRC the result was leaning towards being unfeasible... I'll see what I can dig up.

I agree that the 800 may end up being too tall, the 750 would allow you to ditch the airbox if required and just run air filters onto the carb bellmouths. Not so easy with FI I think.

Another issue with the 800 motor is the crankcase-mounted swingarm pivot (may also be an issue with the SP1 motor into a 400 frame - the VTR1000F had a crankcase mounted swingarm, can't remember whether the SP1 was the same?)"

FWIW the real go with the Big VFRs at the moment is swapping out front ends. The SP2 used to be all the go but there is one guy who has swapped out a late R1 front end with radial brakes. Reckons it makes the late VFRs into awesome bikes with one finger stoppers. Fully adjustable front end is just a part of the deal:drool:

Swoop

30th March 2009, 11:37

Perhaps put the VFR ride up in the calendar, GerryAttrick? As is normal, all it takes is one person to get the ball rolling!

HenryDorsetCase

30th March 2009, 13:14

I passed this idea past a mate of mine who is into quite informed about the various interchangeability of Honda Bits. His reply is:
"I think 'JZH' in the UK has looked into this (he has 400, 750 and 800 VFRs), and IIRC the result was leaning towards being unfeasible... I'll see what I can dig up.

I agree that the 800 may end up being too tall, the 750 would allow you to ditch the airbox if required and just run air filters onto the carb bellmouths. Not so easy with FI I think.

Another issue with the 800 motor is the crankcase-mounted swingarm pivot (may also be an issue with the SP1 motor into a 400 frame - the VTR1000F had a crankcase mounted swingarm, can't remember whether the SP1 was the same?)"

FWIW the real go with the Big VFRs at the moment is swapping out front ends. The SP2 used to be all the go but there is one guy who has swapped out a late R1 front end with radial brakes. Reckons it makes the late VFRs into awesome bikes with one finger stoppers. Fully adjustable front end is just a part of the deal:drool:

March's Performance Bikes mag has done me a huge disservice by naming the RC51 (SP1, SP2) as "the best value HRC toy for your money and most underrated". I mean you can pick them up for ~$11 to 14k and its a LOT of bike for the money....

allegedly there is an NR750 for sale in NZ at the moment: $85k. WANT

My retirement plan (AKA "when I win Lotto") has, however, been a conspicuous failure recently.

Coyote

30th March 2009, 20:09

koba

30th March 2009, 20:23

I've been offered $1500 for my VFR. The person wanting to buy it is a motorcycle mechanic looking for a project so I believe she'd take very good care of it. Plus she looks better than me on it, it'd be boosting the VFR's profile.

Reckon I should sell it?

Not for that price.
Although it is probably not far off the real value at this moment its worth alot more in full working order!

Coyote

30th March 2009, 20:26

Not for that price.
Although it is probably not far off the real value at this moment its worth alot more in full working order!
Yeah, it's definitely the list price value.

But factoring in replacement cost, the cost of sanity lost, the emotional value, etc. makes it priceless. Or at least $3500.

tigertim20

30th March 2009, 21:05

HenryDorsetCase

31st March 2009, 09:31

Dont suppose any of you have some VFR bits laying around?
Im after a swingarm of a VFR750, wanting to do a swingarm conversion on my CBR, Have it on good authority the VFR750 swing arm slots in with very little modification to the shock mount. Also want the rear wheel, disc and caliper. If anyone has these bits and can bear to part with them PM me

I've got a NC30 swingarm which is now spare but I think you're right you need the VFR750 one, if only to get a 17 inch rear wheel. Ive seen a CBR900RR which has had the conversion done: it looks factory.

HenryDorsetCase

31st March 2009, 09:32

Oh, and you guys will appreciate this, if only for the WTF? factor: an old kwaka triple with grafted on NC30 (?) swingarm. check out the front end too: proper bit of kit. hopefully the frame is extensively braced....

great colour too.

Coyote

31st March 2009, 09:39

Ragingrob

31st March 2009, 10:04

I'm after some front rotors for my nc30, haha have been for a while now :bleh

If anyone has some spare...

koba

1st April 2009, 20:55

I have a spare NC30 swingarm sitting around for a project like that.
Where did you get those flash rotors?

I'm after some front rotors for my nc30, haha have been for a while now :bleh

If anyone has some spare...

Coyote got some flash ones but I think they didn't work out so well - it certainly didn't seem like it last time we had a gayhug.

Coyote

2nd April 2009, 08:07

Where did you get those flash rotors?

Coyote got some flash ones but I think they didn't work out so well - it certainly didn't seem like it last time we had a gayhug.
TYGA performance. They turned out to be warped. There's several variables that could be the reason for it. The original disks were warped so the front wheel and brake calipers could be the problem instead. But I choose to blame the shipping company.

TYGA are excellent people to deal with and I'd say they're worth a shot despite my troubles. I emailed them about my dilemma and they said they'd ship over two brand new disks, free of charge. I thought this was incredibly generous, so much so I didn't want to abuse their generosity. I still believed my bike could be the problem. In the end I agreed to getting one disk, which I've yet to put on (being the muppet I am).

They are reasonably flash to begin with. The machined part is a nice bright gold, and the disk has a cool eletrocoat over it. However, they're are cheaper for a reason. Leave them overnight in the rain and they do rust. Not too big a problem as the rust strips away under breaking. Plus the disks where the pads don't touch eventually gets a bit dark and tired looking. Plus the gold on one of the disks has faded, whereas the other hasn't.

I've yet to look into getting the disks skimmed. It should solve the problem at a cost of loosing some of their meat. From now on I'll fabricate my own disks and rivet them onto the original mounting.

HenryDorsetCase

2nd April 2009, 08:59

TYGA performance. They turned out to be warped. There's several variables that could be the reason for it. The original disks were warped so the front wheel and brake calipers could be the problem instead. But I choose to blame the shipping company.

TYGA are excellent people to deal with and I'd say they're worth a shot despite my troubles. I emailed them about my dilemma and they said they'd ship over two brand new disks, free of charge. I thought this was incredibly generous, so much so I didn't want to abuse their generosity. I still believed my bike could be the problem. In the end I agreed to getting one disk, which I've yet to put on (being the muppet I am).

They are reasonably flash to begin with. The machined part is a nice bright gold, and the disk has a cool eletrocoat over it. However, they're are cheaper for a reason. Leave them overnight in the rain and they do rust. Not too big a problem as the rust strips away under breaking. Plus the disks where the pads don't touch eventually gets a bit dark and tired looking. Plus the gold on one of the disks has faded, whereas the other hasn't.

I've yet to look into getting the disks skimmed. It should solve the problem at a cost of loosing some of their meat. From now on I'll fabricate my own disks and rivet them onto the original mounting.

I gather that Steve Bridge at F1 Engineering also does the same: original carriers, new discs and buttons

I love Tyga kit too, but now the dollar has tanked its become very expensive. :(

vifferman

2nd April 2009, 09:11

However, they're are cheaper for a reason. Leave them overnight in the rain and they do rust. Not too big a problem as the rust strips away under breaking.
Not necessarily a sign of cheapness: softer disks (witnessed by the rusting) usually offer superior braking performance than shiny stainless steel ones.

One of my front disks rusts more'n the other. They're the same size, but one has a gold anodised carrier, the other (rusty one) is silver, and the hole patterns differ. If I knew what/where/why, I could replace one so they match. The short-term solution is removal and spraying of the carriers with gold paint so they at least look at a glance to be indentical.

Coyote

2nd April 2009, 09:17

I gather that Steve Bridge at F1 Engineering also does the same: original carriers, new discs and buttons

I love Tyga kit too, but now the dollar has tanked its become very expensive. :(
I was lucky enough to get the pair for around $420, shipping included. Half the price of the FGB disks in NZ.

I've yet to check how pricey they must be now.

Not necessarily a sign of cheapness: softer disks (witnessed by the rusting) usually offer superior braking performance than shiny stainless steel ones.

One of my front disks rusts more'n the other. They're the same size, but one has a gold anodised carrier, the other (rusty one) is silver, and the hole patterns differ. If I knew what/where/why, I could replace one so they match. The short-term solution is removal and spraying of the carriers with gold paint so they at least look at a glance to be indentical.
Haha, excellent! I can claim they're "hi-po" now.

Is carrier the word for it then? I was trying to figure out a proper description when I was typing my last post.

Is that how you bought the bike?

vifferman

2nd April 2009, 13:30

Is carrier the word for it then?
I think so, but I'm happy to be corrected.

Is that how you bought the bike?
Yes, with mismatched front disks (the right one of which was corroded and pulsed badly), a bent right footpeg and brake lever, and some missing bolts.
I asked that these issues be addressed, but the dealer basically did next to nothing about them, apart from replacing two of the missing bolts. They looked at the brake, said it was "within spec" and with a bit of use and a set of new pads, it eventually came right.
The bent footpeg I straightened myself (bracket was bent, presumably in the same 'incident' that necessitated the disk being replaced, and the mismatched paint applied to the fairing), but I subsequently bent it again, so I replaced both footpeg brackets with some that were sent from Canadia via a slow boat from China. Took about 4 months surface mail! :eek:

Coyote

2nd April 2009, 13:45

Yes, with mismatched front disks (the right one of which was corroded and pulsed badly), a bent right footpeg and brake lever, and some missing bolts.
I asked that these issues be addressed, but the dealer basically did next to nothing about them, apart from replacing two of the missing bolts. They looked at the brake, said it was "within spec" and with a bit of use and a set of new pads, it eventually came right.
The bent footpeg I straightened myself (bracket was bent, presumably in the same 'incident' that necessitated the disk being replaced, and the mismatched paint applied to the fairing), but I subsequently bent it again, so I replaced both footpeg brackets with some that were sent from Canadia via a slow boat from China. Took about 4 months surface mail! :eek:
So buying from a dealer isn't so great? I've been thinking I'd rather spend the extra few grand to get a dealer bike for "peace of mind" but if you don't get that much support, I'd rather save the money for repairs.

My disks I thought would wear into place but the problem has only seem to have got worse. Ten times as bad. Course I brake more aggressively now I'm a more confident rider, and I'm more trusting of my SportAttack up front which is part of it, but even under gentle braking it's worse.

motorbyclist

4th April 2009, 23:20

I've been offered $1500 for my VFR. The person wanting to buy it is a motorcycle mechanic looking for a project so I believe she'd take very good care of it. Plus she looks better than me on it, it'd be boosting the VFR's profile.

pics or it didn't happen

So buying from a dealer isn't so great? I've been thinking I'd rather spend the extra few grand to get a dealer bike for "peace of mind" but if you don't get that much support, I'd rather save the money for repairs.

they don't make enough money to want to care.

that said the smaller guys have a (good) reputation that they can't afford lose - pirate jafa can give you AJ's number. he knows his vfrs and is very active in ensuring you're happy with the service.

Coyote

5th April 2009, 07:59

pics or it didn't happen

It didn't happen. Her boyfriend is giving her his old bike instead.

they don't make enough money to want to care.

that said the smaller guys have a (good) reputation that they can't afford lose - pirate jafa can give you AJ's number. he knows his vfrs and is very active in ensuring you're happy with the service.
Alright, private sale it is.

I'll ask him about it. I can now afford to treat the VFR right. Still hope to get a new road machine, which will mean the VFR can sit in the garage being tinkered with.

motorbyclist

6th April 2009, 00:08

It didn't happen. Her boyfriend is giving her his old bike instead.

can we get pics anyway? :blip:

nico

6th April 2009, 06:33

pics or it didn't happen

they don't make enough money to want to care.

that said the smaller guys have a (good) reputation that they can't afford lose - pirate jafa can give you AJ's number. he knows his vfrs and is very active in ensuring you're happy with the service.

if she hot she can come ride my viffffffr

and i 2nd pics ot it didnt happen
i must call in a check out the paint coyote..
you working at s.c now? ill be in this week to get oil

lankyman

6th April 2009, 14:02

NC30 all the way

SpeedyGirl

6th April 2009, 14:14

Anyone want it????? no longer have the bike and its sitting in the cupboard still in its wrapper ...... i will even post it for you :)

HenryDorsetCase

6th April 2009, 14:21

Anyone want it????? no longer have the bike and its sitting in the cupboard still in its wrapper ...... i will even post it for you :)

it might fit other Honder models...

Coyote

6th April 2009, 20:36

can we get pics anyway? :blip:
If I had some, possibly. But it'll cost ya.

if she hot she can come ride my viffffffr

and i 2nd pics ot it didnt happen
i must call in a check out the paint coyote..
you working at s.c now? ill be in this week to get oil
You can see her at Supercheap on Saturdays if you're so inclined.

Yep, working there full time now. Seen the bike outside?

They were getting desperate for a new 3IC so I'm it :p I can afford a bike loan for sure now...

nico

6th April 2009, 21:24

If I had some, possibly. But it'll cost ya.

You can see her at Supercheap on Saturdays if you're so inclined.

Yep, working there full time now. Seen the bike outside?

They were getting desperate for a new 3IC so I'm it :p I can afford a bike loan for sure now...

yeah ill be later this week to get some oil's pissd at repco they dont stock the 1's i need and i get mad discount there ahhhhhhh bastards hook me up.:third:ic hehehehehehe and yeahp seen the bike there and a naked blue 1 is it a hornet?

Coyote

6th April 2009, 21:39

yeah ill be later this week to get some oil's pissd at repco they dont stock the 1's i need and i get mad discount there ahhhhhhh bastards hook me up.:third:ic hehehehehehe and yeahp seen the bike there and a naked blue 1 is it a hornet?
I haven't got discount myself yet. Will soon, though I'm not sure I can abuse it too far. It'll become suspect when I appear to be spending more than I earn.

The naked blue bike is a Chinese thing from Gethings :p

motorbyclist

6th April 2009, 23:52

NC30 all the way

bling awarded :clap:

Swoop

7th April 2009, 08:33

We are always talking about "personalising" our bikes and modifying them. "Becoming one with them" in a manner of speaking.
I think the Viffer wants to personalise me... I have a lovely "love bite" on the left knuckle from yesterday afternoon's oil change session. Having hot headers in the vicinity of the filter was not the best of ideas, Mr Honda!:no:

:laugh:

vifferman

7th April 2009, 09:21

Having hot headers in the vicinity of the filter was not the best of ideas, Mr Honda!
With <s>all</s> some respect, Mr Swoop, Sir - you're a dumbarse! :laugh:
You know the oil will keep hot and runny much longer'n the headers will keep hot, doncha? You CAN wait until the headers cool down before removing the filter. :yes:

Swoop

7th April 2009, 09:48

With <s>all</s> some respect, Mr Swoop, Sir - you're a dumbarse! :laugh:
You know the oil will keep hot and runny much longer'n the headers will keep hoy, doncha? You CAN wait until the headers cool down before removing the filter. :yes:
Oi! I resemble that remark...:bleh:
I know that I'm a dumbarse, but an enthusiastic dumbarse! That oil HAD to come out NOW (if not sooner)!!!

Warr

14th April 2009, 20:59

Shame if it has already been posted in this thread before....
Just seen it here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=2027322&posted=1#post2027322

But this is the uTube linky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukAhlxl4hmM

mark247

14th April 2009, 21:41

NC30 For sale.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=213305865&ed=true

If you are interested, pm me.

Warr

14th April 2009, 21:46

NC30 For sale.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=213305865&ed=true

If you are interested, pm me.
Would be interested in seeing some more pic's. Sorry not for buying .. but it looks a real minter... did you do the work ?

mark247

14th April 2009, 21:52

Would be interested in seeing some more pic's. Sorry not for buying .. but it looks a real minter... did you do the work ?

If you are the guy that just bid $1000 and hit the reserve, sorry for removing your bid! I set up the auction wrong, I just crashed a motorcycle today and ripped my leg up pretty good, still half high on the drugs from the hospital!! lol.

I will put some more pics up.

Oh and yes, i did all the work myself.

Warr

15th April 2009, 16:44

If you are the guy that just bid $1000 and hit the reserve, sorry for removing your bid! I set up the auction wrong, I just crashed a motorcycle today and ripped my leg up pretty good, still half high on the drugs from the hospital!! lol.

I will put some more pics up.

Oh and yes, i did all the work myself.
Hey dude sorry to hear of your troubles, no it wasnt me bidding. I already happy with the 750F, RC30 :)

cheshirecat

29th April 2009, 21:21

Sorry to here about your accident.
My VFR pillion might bring a smile here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Hnqdm7p68&feature=channel_page)

loose_unit

11th May 2009, 22:26

I picked up a 1987 NC24 VFR 400 on saturday... I am superstolked, and have no desire to buy anything else :rockon:

Best sound, EVAR - I will post pics when I get a chanse... unfortunately dropped it today in the garage and injured my shoulder - broke the clutch lever... always make sure the stand is down properly!!! even when you're freezing cold!

Didn't damage the bodywork though which was nice and I really didn't feel like dealing with any other damage so I stopped looking :P

I'll go take some pics now

koba

11th May 2009, 22:34