VFR owners' thread, for VFRPS members and prospective members

[loose_unit]

Red, white and blue one from upper hutt?

Nope.

Here are pics!
http://iforce.co.nz/i/ju3x4akg.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/xeuxc04n.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/1zjlcrmf.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/ooaabbkj.jpg

[koba]

Nope.

Here are pics!
http://iforce.co.nz/i/ju3x4akg.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/xeuxc04n.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/1zjlcrmf.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/ooaabbkj.jpg

Nice.
Good bike for trackdays or club racing too...

[loose_unit]

Nice.
Good bike for trackdays or club racing too...

yeah, I'm keen to get onto a track and learn some stuff about bike control

[Dave-]

nice one loose!

have a blast man

[PirateJafa]

Nope.

Here are pics!
http://iforce.co.nz/i/ju3x4akg.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/xeuxc04n.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/1zjlcrmf.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/ooaabbkj.jpg

Is that a car exhaust!?

[Dave-]

Is that a car exhaust!?

looks like it eh?

loose is old school BFer if you didn't know pirate.

[loose_unit]

Is that a car exhaust!?

I'm fairly certain it is :)

[koba]

:scooter:
yeah, I'm keen to get onto a track and learn some stuff about bike control

Do it!

There is lots of info on track days on here.

For racing info check out www.vicclub.co.nz

[Ragingrob]

May aswell pop the question in here... Anyone got a spare gear step lever lying around that they don't need/wanna sell? Also after a clutch lever but that's easily enough found at any old shop.

[motorbyclist]

anyone driving from wellington to auckalnd next week?


May aswell pop the question in here... Anyone got a spare gear step lever lying around that they don't need/wanna sell? Also after a clutch lever but that's easily enough found at any old shop.

what have you done?!

[Ragingrob]

anyone driving from wellington to auckalnd next week?



what have you done?!


As I said... Curb smash!!! :bash: Lol :weep:

[koba]

anyone driving from wellington to auckalnd next week?


I'm going to the racing at taupo this weekend...

[Ragingrob]

I'm going to the racing at taupo this weekend...

Now motorb's just gotta find someone who's heading to Taupo from Welly and he's in!

[koba]

Now motorb's just gotta find someone who's heading to Taupo from Welly and he's in!

Wrong way around.
But it is quite likely with Round one of the winterseries on.

[motorbyclist]

problem is the auction ends tuesday, but we'll see what can be done about that....

[koba]

Thats my Taupo travels over for another long while.

[Coyote]

Would a ZXR750 front end suit my 400? I'll be getting the stocks forks for my Gixxer and I could take the 750 ones that are currently on it and replace the crap front end on the 400. Then Bam, got 2 race bikes!

[koba]

Would a ZXR750 front end suit my 400? I'll be getting the stocks forks for my Gixxer and I could take the 750 ones that are currently on it and replace the crap front end on the 400. Then Bam, got 2 race bikes!

I'd be keen on the 400 front end if you decide to ditch it, its a big upgrade from my front end!

[Coyote]

I'd be keen on the 400 front end if you decide to ditch it, its a big upgrade from my front end!
Hmm, not too sure on that. I suppose I wouldn't be replacing the front ends of either bike unless I found something better so I probably wouldn't need the old forks.

See if I can get the forks off the gixxer then on the 400. Plus I've got to get the original forks off the previous owner of the gixxer.

[motorbyclist]

Would a ZXR750 front end suit my 400? I'll be getting the stocks forks for my Gixxer and I could take the 750 ones that are currently on it and replace the crap front end on the 400. Then Bam, got 2 race bikes!

what's wrong with your stock vfr forks? if you used the zxr750 (ignoring the physical size/weight differences) don't you dare change to the zxr750 front wheel (presuming it is wider than the vfr stock) or you will ruin one of history's best handling bikes :(

[Mort]

A quick video I made showing a smart camera mount I've found on Ebay. Perfect for the VFR750. Company is called Cycle Machine works . Cost about $US 44. Nice quality. Proper bolts etc... Works very well on the VFR. Will also work on the VFR800.

Mort

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[vifferman]

Nicely put together video, Mort! :niceone:
Nice bike too - like the one I used to have! Except I stripped'n'polished the wheels, which (IMHO) looked nicer than the white painted wheels, and were easier to keep clean.

[koba]

Nicely put together video, Mort! :niceone:
Nice bike too - like the one I used to have! Except I stripped'n'polished the wheels, which (IMHO) looked nicer than the white painted wheels, and were easier to keep clean.


White wheels are the stupidest thing about old VFRs...

[vifferman]

White wheels are the stupidest thing about old VFRs...
Hmmmmmm......

No, I think the riveted-together Comstar wheels on the old VFs were stupider. But they were black, so they didn't show the road spooge too badly.

And the frames that you had to drill a drain hole in to stop them rusting out from accumulated water.
And vacuum-operated fuel taps.
And soft cams / poor top end lubrication.
Noisy camchains were crap too. "Grrrrrrr!!!" and all that....

It wasn't all bad though - I liked the air preload on the shocks - just add a bit of air when carrying a pillion. The anti-dive in one fork leg was fun too: wind it down to "0" and stoppies were VERY easy.

[koba]

Hmmmmmm......

No, I think the riveted-together Comstar wheels on the old VFs were stupider. But they were black, so they didn't show the road spooge too badly.

And the frames that you had to drill a drain hole in to stop them rusting out from accumulated water.
And vacuum-operated fuel taps.
And soft cams / poor top end lubrication.
Noisy camchains were crap too. "Grrrrrrr!!!" and all that....

It wasn't all bad though - I liked the air preload on the shocks - just add a bit of air when carrying a pillion. The anti-dive in one fork leg was fun too: wind it down to "0" and stoppies were VERY easy.

I hear you on the Vacuum operated fuel tap!

[motorbyclist]

just had the joy of bump starting a bike that both ran out of fuel and battery.

curse you vacuum operated fuel tap!

[Coyote]

what's wrong with your stock vfr forks? if you used the zxr750 (ignoring the physical size/weight differences) don't you dare change to the zxr750 front wheel (presuming it is wider than the vfr stock) or you will ruin one of history's best handling bikes :(
The wheel is the same size so that isn't an issue.

The reason is the current front end has the warped disk pads, and it's cheaper putting a front end I already own onto the bike.

But since charging up the battery and riding it today I don't think it's in any condition to go racing. Engine doesn't like revving. Something blocked in the carbs. I'll figure it out.

[Squiggles]

and it's cheaper putting a front end I already own onto the bike.

I very much doubt that.

[loose_unit]

Hey all, I'm trying to track down pillion passenger pegs for an 87 NC24 VFR400?

Anyone have some they'd like to sell? or know where I can buy some?

I've tried trademe and several wreckers... around NZ.

I'm trying to avoid ordering them from overseas which seems to be the only real option at the moment.

Any help is appreciated!

Joe.

[Warr]

Any idea if they be similar to a RC30 1990 VFR750.. if so could have something

Hey all, I'm trying to track down pillion passenger pegs for an 87 NC24 VFR400?

Anyone have some they'd like to sell? or know where I can buy some?

I've tried trademe and several wreckers... around NZ.

I'm trying to avoid ordering them from overseas which seems to be the only real option at the moment.

Any help is appreciated!

Joe.

[PirateJafa]

If the pillion pegs/mounts from a NC30 are the same, I have some spare.

[Coyote]

If the pillion pegs/mounts from a NC30 are the same, I have some spare.
Ditto.


Anyone want to buy my bike?

[koba]

Hey all, I'm trying to track down pillion passenger pegs for an 87 NC24 VFR400?

Anyone have some they'd like to sell? or know where I can buy some?

I've tried trademe and several wreckers... around NZ.

I'm trying to avoid ordering them from overseas which seems to be the only real option at the moment.

Any help is appreciated!

Joe.

Could you make somthing?

Can you find out if they are the same as an NC21?

[loose_unit]

Could you make somthing?

Can you find out if they are the same as an NC21?

From pictures, they seem pretty similar - but not quite the same...

The next step will be getting something fabricated, it's likely something will have to be done about the custom exaust that it's got to drop it down 5 - 10 cm ish.

Anyone know anyone who could do this in the wellington area?

[koba]

Anyone know anyone who could do this in the wellington area?

I can do it if you don't mind waiting 6 months...

Maybe try cycleworks? I'm not sure but they may be able to help.

My advice would be to find a steel set off somthing else so they can be modified to fit rather than re-inventing the wheel.

Also try buckets and bits, I think he may have a few '24 parts.

[loose_unit]

I can do it if you don't mind waiting 6 months...

Maybe try cycleworks? I'm not sure but they may be able to help.

My advice would be to find a steel set off somthing else so they can be modified to fit rather than re-inventing the wheel.

Also try buckets and bits, I think he may have a few '24 parts.

I'll keep that in mind if I am still looking in 6 months :)

I'll have a chat to them about it when I get my bike back.

I've been looking at that option, I still need someone who can fabricate it first.

I've tried them, they only have the peg's, not the mounts.

Edit:
This is the issue I face with the exaust:
http://iforce.co.nz/i/ju3x4akg.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/ooaabbkj.jpg

[koba]

I'll keep that in mind if I am still looking in 6 months :)

I'll have a chat to them about it when I get my bike back.

I've been looking at that option, I still need someone who can fabricate it first.

I've tried them, they only have the peg's, not the mounts.

Edit:
This is the issue I face with the exaust:
http://iforce.co.nz/i/ju3x4akg.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/ooaabbkj.jpg

Maybe not the best options for you but if it was MY bike I would move that muffler down and straighten it out.

This is all just an opinion here aye, it is not my place to tell you what to do with your bike but I think this is a valid suggestion to be considered.
I don't expect you to agree.

Pesonally it is not my cup of tea but if you like the muffler running it in-line with the rear fairing will make it look better and fit better.
It would also make it easy to use the pillion footpeg bracket to double as a muffler bracket as it probably originally did.
I have drawn a line on one of your pics to show the angle I'm talking about.

You will also have to modify the rest of the pipe to suit.

I think if you can do this or can find someone who can your bike will look heaps better and be more functional.

Ground clearance shouldn't be a problem.

[loose_unit]

Maybe not the best options for you but if it was MY bike I would move that muffler down and straighten it out.

This is all just an opinion here aye, it is not my place to tell you what to do with your bike but I think this is a valid suggestion to be considered.
I don't expect you to agree.

Pesonally it is not my cup of tea but if you like the muffler running it in-line with the rear fairing will make it look better and fit better.
It would also make it easy to use the pillion footpeg bracket to double as a muffler bracket as it probably originally did.
I have drawn a line on one of your pics to show the angle I'm talking about.

You will also have to modify the rest of the pipe to suit.

I think if you can do this or can find someone who can your bike will look heaps better and be more functional.

Ground clearance shouldn't be a problem.

I can do it without modifying the pipe much, only adjusting the first and second bends.

I bought it how it is, and I agree with how the pipe should be lined up (with the fairing)

You see it exactly how I see it :)

[koba]

I can do it without modifying the pipe much, only adjusting the first and second bends.

I bought it how it is, and I agree with how the pipe should be lined up (with the fairing)

You see it exactly how I see it :)

I think I saw that one on trademe a while ago as an attractive buy and thought that then!

Post up how you get on if you have a play with it.

[koba]

Aye!
I just looked up some pics of the standard '24 Muffler and peg setup, perfect!

[Coyote]

Aye!
I just looked up some pics of the standard '24 Muffler and peg setup, perfect!
The high rise set up does look rather spiffing. Thought about it for my bike actually.

[loose_unit]

I think I saw that one on trademe a while ago as an attractive buy and thought that then!

Post up how you get on if you have a play with it.

Honestly, it's the best sounding bike... evar!

My mate aptly described it as a elephant with diarrhoea shitting into a drainpipe amplified x10 :D

[loose_unit]

Aye!
I just looked up some pics of the standard '24 Muffler and peg setup, perfect!

o_O you sure? it doesn't look like it'd fit to me :-/

[koba]

o_O you sure? it doesn't look like it'd fit to me :-/

No, it probably wouldn't. It would have been nice if previous owner/s had left it for you though.

I don't have a great pic (of the muffler, great pics otherwise!:D) but the previous owner of my bike did a great job of raising it and puting a cycleworks can on it. ('21 Mufflers are quite low standard)

Photos thanks to Avalon Wagener

[McWild]

Anyone know how many decibels Tyga moto maggots and systems put out on the nc30s?

[PirateJafa]

No idea - but I have been very tempted in the past - and even more tempted now that I have a spare VFR solely for the racetrack... :innocent:

[koba]

Anyone know how many decibels Tyga moto maggots and systems put out on the nc30s?

Dunno either but if you like the look of them and they turn out too louad you could always make (or get someone to make) a removable baffle.

[McWild]

Oh yes once I get my full I entirely intend on getting it no matter how loud, was just curious.

Have the savings account set up already harharhar.

[koba]

Oh yes once I get my full I entirely intend on getting it no matter how loud, was just curious.

Have the savings account set up already harharhar.

Awesome, then you could race your RG...:pokey:

[Rayray401]

what about the tyga stainless steel silencer?..anyone know how loud they are?...hmm..and does anyone have a spare bracket that holds the mirrors that i can buy or have?...my ones bent...and its bending/cracking my windscreen....looks so fugly..

[koba]

my ones bent...and its bending/cracking my windscreen....looks so fugly..

Fucken unbend it then!

[Rayray401]

Fucken unbend it then!

yeah thats not a bad idea atm...lol but dont really wanna make it worse eh..and dunno which way to bend!

[koba]

yeah thats not a bad idea atm...lol but dont really wanna make it worse eh..and dunno which way to bend!

Take a good look at it and nut it out.
You shuld be able to work it out by looking at it and where it should be.
A vice will help alot, just use somthing softer on the jaws so it doesn't mark your part.
A big crescent is also useful in this, you can use both ends too.

[motorbyclist]

bending that frame is pretty much a fact of life for NC30 owners, and like everything else on the NC30 it can take half a day to complete a releatively simple task....

pick the "good" side and match the other side up to that, so that the wingmirrors look even. if you go bending the frame without the wingmirrors you have no reference and may find they don't fit back in afterwards

[Rayray401]

i see..cheers..ill give it a try eh

[Interceptor]

I saw a post on another forum about a mod (partial gut) to recent VFR exhaust systems:

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=40885

I followed the instructions and wow the change is incredible!

Such an improvement with a few tools and a bit of an investment in time. I thoroughly recommend this mod to anyone who likes the stock pipes but wants to open them up a bit more. The effort is worth it!!

[loose_unit]

I'll try and get a video of mine and my flatmates VFR's this week.

Just did an oil change on Saturday, it was definately due, the tar that poured out wasn't cool... :-P

Next on the list are sprockets and chain then front tire...

Anyone know a rough price to get the Sprockets and Chain done?

[Ragingrob]

I'll try and get a video of mine and my flatmates VFR's this week.

Just did an oil change on Saturday, it was definately due, the tar that poured out wasn't cool... :-P

Next on the list are sprockets and chain then front tire...

Anyone know a rough price to get the Sprockets and Chain done?

Got mine done for $280 or so from memory, for the 400.

[motorbyclist]

$260 for my 400, x ring gold blingy chain fitted and everything :D

[loose_unit]

$260 for my 400, x ring gold blingy chain fitted and everything :D

Where abouts?

[motorbyclist]

wild west honda - since closed down though :(

[Coyote]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-243166124.htm

[Interceptor]

Update from MCN dated 21 Sep 09 concerning the VFR1200:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2009/September/sep2109-honda-vfr1200-spied-in-finished-form/

[Ender EnZed]

To anyone with a VFR750:

What kind of fuel consumption do you get?
I haven't owned mine that long but its using a fairly consistent 6 - 6.5 L/100km (15km/L) which seems like quite a lot to me.

[Warr]

To anyone with a VFR750:

What kind of fuel consumption do you get?
I haven't owned mine that long but its using a fairly consistent 6 - 6.5 L/100km (15km/L) which seems like quite a lot to me.

Well as you know it varies with riding style !! Style be quite liberal!
18/9 Last fill 17.43km/l
5/9 Previous 11.9km/l Kawhia Harbour group ride
4/9 17.68km/l
22/8 13.38km/l Hamilton Honda group ride
19/8 15.64km/l

Need to explain tho. 1st one above was solo riding
2nd was a sprint mostly behind a CBR600 around Kawhia Harbour Rd

I would say for a carbed '750 ~15km/l tis likely be average
That gives you a range of ~287k's
That top one gave me a range of 331k's
And lowest a range of 227k's

[Ender EnZed]

Cheers mate. I'm probably just too used to a GPZ500.

[mynameis]

Where's skidMark these days, this place is quiet without him.

[motorbyclist]

To anyone with a VFR750:

What kind of fuel consumption do you get?
I haven't owned mine that long but its using a fairly consistent 6 - 6.5 L/100km (15km/L) which seems like quite a lot to me.

My vfr400 would get 18-20km/L so the 750 isn't doing that bad

[koba]

My '86 400 sucks gas, its almost cheaper to take a car.

[Rayray401]

Hey, anyone know where I could find a decent exhaust system for the 400?..or anyone keen on selling one?..im def not going retail ><

[Warr]

Hey, anyone know where I could find a decent exhaust system for the 400?..or anyone keen on selling one?..im def not going retail ><
How different is it from the 750 ?
Wrecker in Ngaruawahia has wrecked more than one 750.
Someone was selling a STAINTUNE on TM.
Oh just found it again ... Retail prices by cycletreads :(
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Exhaust/auction-235134907.htm

Good luck :)

[motorbyclist]

don't bother if you aren't prepared to tune it otherwise you are guaranteed to lose power

talk to virgin mufflers and/or search trademe

[gatch]

I am looking at buying one that has a "yamamoto" can on, sounds like a mechanical orchestra..

Who is yamamoto ? Some old school performance brand ?

[Mort]

May fit my RC36 that pipe - do you think it would need a retune if fitted ?

[motorbyclist]

the HRC built NC30 and 35 (400cc) are pretty finely tuned on the exhaust/carburetion for scavenging etc that a higher flow pipe will righty fuck up.

when jafa fitted his he was shooting blue flames for weeks while he tried to get it right, and i've ridden many gutless vfr400s with gutted pipes

[PirateJafa]

If you do fit an aftermarket pipe (in my case, a complete Two Brothers system), you will indeed as Motorbyclist says, tune it to suit.

This can take a little while, and is pretty time-consuming.

But oh god almighty is it good once it's set up right. :2thumbsup

[koba]

Hey, anyone know where I could find a decent exhaust system for the 400?..or anyone keen on selling one?..im def not going retail ><

Look up Cycleworks in Lower Hutt, they make 'em but its excellent quality for a great price. Buckets 'n bits may have a second hand one.

[vifferman]

May fit my RC36 that pipe - do you think it would need a retune if fitted ?
At most Mort, you may need to shim the needles. I did that on my RC36 when I modified the muffler. Pretty easy to do. :yes:

[Warr]

My '90 750 (RC36) is in need of another mirror ... dont ask :(
Someone sells on TM mirrors for the 400 but they arent much of a match and when I've asked about the 750 ones it always draws a blank.
Previously I have got a set off eBay, so this time have done the same.
$US20 + $US12 ($NZ47.15) to land on my doorstep. Sweet :)
Coming from Asia somewhere direct.

[Ender EnZed]

I don't know about the later 750s but I can't see much other than my elbows in my mirrors. Anyone fixed this with aftermarket mirrors? If so where'd you get them?

[Swoop]

I don't know about the later 750s but I can't see much other than my elbows in my mirrors. Anyone fixed this with aftermarket mirrors? If so where'd you get them?
The earlier VFR's are quite bad for mirror view. Later models are better. My '96 was very good and the '07 is great.

[vifferman]

My '90 750 (RC36) is in need of another mirror ... dont ask :(
Up until a few months ago, I had a spare 750 mirror in my cupboard, but I dismantled it to use the glass as a temporary fix for a KBer's VFR400 mirror.
:Oops:

As for rear-view vision: my current bike has excellent view to the rear. My elbows can be seen in edges of the mirrors when they're adjusted properly, but they don't obscure too much of the view at all.

[vifferman]

"We are very pleased to tell you that the new VFR 1200F
will be launched online on Thursday 8th October at
12.00 CET (11.00am GMT).

On the website will be films, downloads, full technical specs, interviews, animations of new technologies,
360° of all three colours and much much more!

Make sure you are in front of your computer next
Thursday to be the first to see the new VFR!"


Hmmmmm... so that's like, 12 midnight, tonight? :wari:

[Ender EnZed]

Hmmmmm... so that's like, 12 midnight, tonight? :wari:

You're a day early.

[vifferman]

You're a day early.
Oh... you're right. 11AM GMT on the 8th is midnight on the 8th for us. :Oops:

You can all go back to sleep.... - it's just a false alarm.

[motorbyclist]

I don't know about the later 750s but I can't see much other than my elbows in my mirrors. Anyone fixed this with aftermarket mirrors? If so where'd you get them?

tried lifting your elbows up/out and looking through the gap?

[koba]

You can all go back to sleep.... - it's just a false alarm.

A false alarm regarding a new Honda V4?!?!!

Never!

[Interceptor]

Info is now on the Honda UK site:

Honda UK: http://ww1.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/

VFR 1200 Promo from Honda UK site: http://www.feelvfr.com/en_GB/pages/mainpage

Brochure (21MB pdf): http://videos.feelv4.com/vfr/images/pdfs/EIL_UK.pdf


Enjoy!

[Swoop]

We regret to announce the death of the VFR...

[PirateJafa]

We regret to announce the death of the VFR...

That isn't a VFR.

You can actually see where they've taken the round BMW badge off, and bodge'd a round Honda badge on in place of it.

[Ender EnZed]

tried lifting your elbows up/out and looking through the gap?

Yeah it's not that I can't see behind at all but it takes more effort than seems reasonable.

[BladeBoy]

yea ive gotta pretty mint cbr250 mc22, runs real well and i beat any of my mates on there 250s. i see a could sell my bike for 5kish and buy a vfr400 for about the same money. are they much more powerful than what i already have or should i go for a 600?

[BladeBoy]

oh yea and money is tight. i can pretty mush spend what i get for my bike.

[motorbyclist]

yea ive gotta pretty mint cbr250 mc22, runs real well and i beat any of my mates on there 250s. i see a could sell my bike for 5kish and buy a vfr400 for about the same money. are they much more powerful than what i already have or should i go for a 600?

you can get a good nc30 for 5k. the same can't be said for a modern "supersport" 600.

yep the 400 should have enough grunt to keep you amused - you're going from 40 to 60 hp plus low down torque. the modern 600 supersport is well over 100hp and frankly are a bit of a leap for a learner. the 400 is much more forgiving and less likely to simply flick you off, plus you can actually thrash it; the 600 really needs to be used on a track.

as the uni club safety officer i've seen quite a few learners from through the ranks and they tend to do alot better by graduating to the 400 or a larger capacity twin rather than straight to the r6 or gsxr. The guys who do make the jump tend to bin it more often and generally aren't as good riders at the end of it.

the biggest difference for me personally is that a 400 simply loves tight twisty stuff where it mops the floor with any 600, whereas the 600 only makes sense on a track and/or over the posted speed limit. Also, the 600 supersport is a very silly thing to buy if you value your licence.

if it's instructive at all, i've three times had a go on a 600 for a month where i was meant to "upgrade" and always gone back to the 400, and after my nc30 was stolen i was immediately out looking for a new one rather than picking up the r6 sitting in the garage:yes:

finally, with a 400 you've always got an excuse for falling behind - but man is it fun having just come out a coro loop having either passed all the larger bikes or kept right up the arse of two idiots at the front - for the record an idiot on an '06 r6 and tuned hornet 900 are no faster, and litrebikes are actually ridden by slow old men with bike too heavy to manage tight corners anyway;)

[PirateJafa]

Don't forget to mention the other plusses Andrew.

Like the fact that the NC30's give you far better tyre life than larger bikes, build quality is excellent, no need to worry about cam-chains etc due to the gear-driven cams. :)

The V4 400's are, for me, the perfect NZ road bike. There may be better bikes for the track - but none for the road.

[motorbyclist]

Like the fact that the NC30's give you far better tyre life than larger bikes, build quality is excellent, no need to worry about cam-chains etc due to the gear-driven cams. :)

The V4 400's are, for me, the perfect NZ road bike. There may be better bikes for the track - but none for the road.

yep; a $250 rear tyre every 10000km is damn good compared to $500 in half that distance - though if you're more into touring i'd say ross's rc46 is also perfect; bonus is gear driven cams and none of the newer model's vtec bullshit

[koba]

yea ive gotta pretty mint cbr250 mc22, runs real well and i beat any of my mates on there 250s. i see a could sell my bike for 5kish and buy a vfr400 for about the same money. are they much more powerful than what i already have or should i go for a 600?

What answer did you think you were going to get from the local VFR fanclub?!!

I say buy a VFR.

[koba]

litrebikes are actually ridden by slow old men with bike too heavy to manage tight corners anyway;)

There is no need to lie about it!

VFR's are good but I think they don't handle any better than a modern litrebike or 600, its just easier for mere mortals to use them.

Any road comparisons don't mean shit its all about who is willing to take the biggest risks or if the other person is even trying.

Stick a nutter on a GN250 and he will roll up litrebikes if he is keen/suicidal enough.

VFRs are great bikes.

[motorbyclist]

There is no need to lie about it!

VFR's are good but I think they don't handle any better than a modern litrebike or 600, its just easier for mere mortals to use them.

they are much easier to flick over from side to side, and can do it quicker, all a virtue of a low centre of gravity.

the power is very manageable with a broad spread and nothing too excessive - right on the border where a fistful won't spin up the rear but a dump of clutch will.

the front brakes were later used to haul up the 220kg firestorm.

the geometry is perfect for tight corners.

the bike is ridiculously forgiving - Several times I've lost the front and/or rear to regain traction without a front washout, lowside nor highside.

and finally, the lower seating position gives a greater sense of speed :wari:

having quite a bit of experience on different bikes the vfr is definitely king of tight corners

[koba]

the bike is ridiculously forgiving - Several times I've lost the front and/or rear to regain traction without a front washout, lowside nor highside.

and finally, the lower seating position gives a greater sense of speed :wari:

having quite a bit of experience on different bikes the vfr is definitely king of tight corners

I could say all of that about a CB125 Single too...

[motorbyclist]

well then, it all depends on where you draw the line between power and handling - the cbr150 is terrific if you have the chance of riding one - and I find the borderline where power matches traction is a good one.

on an nz road, i'd pick a 400 over a 125; a go-kart track is a different story but we're not talking buckets

and that cb125 chassis, if anything like my h100, is a bit prone to flexing and the drum brakes aren't very effective at all :bleh:

[koba]

and that cb125 chassis, if anything like my h100, is a bit prone to flexing and the drum brakes aren't very effective at all :bleh:

Its nothing like an H100, it is toooight like a tiger.

Graft a decent front end on that H and you will see it ain't the frame as much as the front forks in standard trim.

Would looove to get my hands on a CBR150 but It's outa my price range at the moment any no-one has one locally.

VFR400 is a great bike for NZ roads, they handle very well.

[BladeBoy]

sweet thanks for your input. yea i didnt expect mush more from the vfr fan club, but you have all put it into perspective. ringing out a 400 through the twisties sounds like heaps more fun than trying to control a monster and lossing speed at the same time. you guys could be bike salesmen. im sold and will put a forsale sticker on my cbr very soon i think.

[motorbyclist]

Thought for the week: if the new bike rego laws go through all our vfr400s are suddenly going to be a whole lot more valuable - and much more expensive to aquire/replace

[koba]

Thought for the week: if the new bike rego laws go through all our vfr400s are suddenly going to be a whole lot more valuable - and much more expensive to aquire/replace

True, and our 100's!!!

[motorbyclist]

True, and our 100's!!!

yes, but unfortunately I can't afford to pay for two bikes under the current rego scheme, let alone the the new one! :(

[Morcs]

With great pleasure, I announce that I, captain Force V4, have returned!

with another NC35. Not on the road yet. Waiting on all the goodies to arrive :)

[Rayray401]

With great pleasure, I announce that I, captain Force V4, have returned!

with another NC35. Not on the road yet. Waiting on all the goodies to arrive :)

what pipe do u have on there?

[Morcs]

what pipe do u have on there?

Its a Vega sports. No idea where it came from, cant find anything on the net, but its sounds awesome and failed a wof.

[Rayray401]

Its a Vega sports. No idea where it came from, cant find anything on the net, but its sounds awesome and failed a wof.

Ahh i see, well my remus is too big, and i need a half system...need to find the system before i can saw the remus ><

[Theflash]

It all started with buying the NC21 off trademe for $300.
Was rotting on the guys back yard. no fairings on bike.
Stripped rear frame, rust killed and painted.
Welded and bogged tank, new tyre, fixed petrol tap, bought fairing set + moulds for $200 TM again (for NC24, anyone want the under/split seat fairing?) new front tyre, new rear disc, plus a lot more work. But I have a problem with it revving up, bogs out at around 6K, farting...., there is a hose that was disconnected (mabye) on the carb, in the manual it calles it a "bent pipe" can someone tell me where it connects to? I think that may be the problem.
also after a sprocket kit and chain.
PS: If someones in AK, I would like to come see one to figure out where the "around engine" fairings mounts go. and mabye figure out if a vaccum hose is missing/ off
e-mail me theflash@vodafone.co.nz

Cheers
Gordon.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

[PirateJafa]

Is it the vacuum line?

On my NC30's, there is a vacuum line running from there to the fuel tap. Runs quite rough without it on there.

[fizzafulla]

ah why did I sell my nc30. Memories.

[koba]

It all started with buying the NC21 off trademe for $300.
Was rotting on the guys back yard. no fairings on bike.
Stripped rear frame, rust killed and painted.
Welded and bogged tank, new tyre, fixed petrol tap, bought fairing set + moulds for $200 TM again (for NC24, anyone want the under/split seat fairing?) new front tyre, new rear disc, plus a lot more work. But I have a problem with it revving up, bogs out at around 6K, farting...., there is a hose that was disconnected (mabye) on the carb, in the manual it calles it a "bent pipe" can someone tell me where it connects to? I think that may be the problem.
also after a sprocket kit and chain.
PS: If someones in AK, I would like to come see one to figure out where the "around engine" fairings mounts go. and mabye figure out if a vaccum hose is missing/ off
e-mail me theflash@vodafone.co.nz

Cheers
Gordon.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif


Pull the fuel tap apart carefully and inspect the diaphgams in it, The may be fooked if its been sitting around for a long time.

From memory the fuel tap's the only bit that has a vacuum take off.
Make sure the little screws that allow vaccum readings from the intakes are all done up and sealed.
I will have a looksie when I next have my carbs off, I have to drop my needles by a bit but thats low on my list right now.

[Morcs]

Is it the vacuum line?

On my NC30's, there is a vacuum line running from there to the fuel tap. Runs quite rough without it on there.

Not just run rough, my NC35 used to cough and splutter to a complete halt at lights then fail to start if the vacuum line came off.. :pinch:

[vifferman]

That vacuum-operated fuel tap was a real bugger at times. Had one on my VF500 - ran from the tap to the left rear intake manifold. It either sucked air in, making that cylinder run lean, or sucked fuel through the petcock diaphragm, making it run too rich.
One other thing - you said the bike was rotting and you had to weld and bog the tank. Are you absolutely sure there's no rust flakes getting into the carbs?

[Theflash]

Thanks all, there is already a vacuum line going to the fuel tap, but I'm still thinking it is a vacuum/ petrol problem.

I pulled the fuel tap apart already had to drill out the rivets (fitted screws) and clean gunk out of tap seal.

Going to run the beastie with the tank and air filter off to see if i can nail it.

Anyone know if the CDI boxes pack up, there is one on TM for $50, maybe buy it and see if that's the prob, if not good for spare (LOL).

Will keep you informed.
G.

[Theflash]

Re rust in carb, I apoxy resined inside the tank (apoxy meths mix), should have bonded down any rust. I bled the carbs before running to check rust, all OK.

The problem seems universal. EG: all cylinders are doing it, so i figure it is a vacuum issue or something.

[motorbyclist]

are you sure the vacuum lines to operate the CV carb diaphragms are intact and connected?

what do the plugs look like?


Is it the vacuum line?

On my NC30's, there is a vacuum line running from there to the fuel tap. Runs quite rough without it on there.


Not just run rough, my NC35 used to cough and splutter to a complete halt at lights then fail to start if the vacuum line came off.. :pinch:

+1 technically the bike shouldn't run at all without a vacuum opening the diaphragm to supply fuel to the carbies....

i'd be concerned if the bike still ran long after it should've died...

[Morcs]

+1 technically the bike shouldn't run at all without a vacuum opening the diaphragm to supply fuel to the carbies....

i'd be concerned if the bike still ran long after it should've died...

Do you remember the first time it happened to you?
I was stuck on the pavement for ages trying to figure out what was wrong :lol:

[koba]

Re rust in carb, I apoxy resined inside the tank (apoxy meths mix), should have bonded down any rust. I bled the carbs before running to check rust, all OK.

The problem seems universal. EG: all cylinders are doing it, so i figure it is a vacuum issue or something.

Are you using a good battery?

[Theflash]

are you sure the vacuum lines to operate the CV carb diaphragms are intact and connected?

what do the plugs look like?





+1 technically the bike shouldn't run at all without a vacuum opening the diaphragm to supply fuel to the carbies....

i'd be concerned if the bike still ran long after it should've died...

Yes, the Vacuum cutoff is working fine, the "bowls" of the carbs are full of petrol. Im gonna run it with the tank off today to see if I can find the problem.
Cheers.

[Theflash]

Are you using a good battery?

Battery was stuffed, but I'm using a new sealed lead acid, starts the bike fine and is about 14.2V when bike running.

[Theflash]

Still after a look at a NC21 or NC24 to see fairing mounts, if anyone has one and I could come over with a digital camera.
E-mail theflash@vodafone.co.nz

[koba]

Still after a look at a NC21 or NC24 to see fairing mounts, if anyone has one and I could come over with a digital camera.
E-mail theflash@vodafone.co.nz

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1731113&highlight=vfr400#post1731113

[Theflash]

Damn it, it was the vacuum cutoff, must have been restricting the flow a bit.
Took it apart and moved spring to other side of diaphragm. I guess the "bowls" don't hold much petrol and it was using it up reasonably quick and bogging out.

Cheers all for help.

G.

[motorbyclist]

are you sure the vacuum lines to operate the CV carb diaphragms are intact and connected?

what do the plugs look like?


Yes, the Vacuum cutoff is working fine, the "bowls" of the carbs are full of petrol. Im gonna run it with the tank off today to see if I can find the problem.
Cheers.

so not checked the plugs and those aren't the the vacuum lines i was referring to....


good to hear it's sorted though :)

[gatch]

Does anyone have a shim kit that they wouldnt mind loaning out ?

NC30 sin machine is nearly at 20k, thought I should give it a birthday..

[motorbyclist]

NC30 sin machine is nearly at 20k, thought I should give it a birthday..

pffft is that all!?

[gatch]

Yeah man :cool:

Was imported from Japan in January this year. Had 15k on the clock then, has just passed 19k now. Only things I am not happy about are the IRC tires, and I suspect the carb jets weren't adjusted when the owner in japan put on the yamamoto can..

[Armitage Shanks]

Yeah man :cool:

Was imported from Japan in January this year. Had 15k on the clock then, has just passed 19k now. Only things I am not happy about are the IRC tires, and I suspect the carb jets weren't adjusted when the owner in japan put on the yamamoto can..

Hello ?

Caveat Emptor ...Need I say more ?

[gatch]

Sounds suspect I realize.. Time will tell I guess..

[quickbuck]

Hello ?

Caveat Emptor ...Need I say more ?

He could be right..... BUT the Japanese buy them to look cool, not really ride any great distance....

[gatch]

He could be right..... BUT

So far as I can tell, it has been garaged since forever, the only scratch's on it are the ones I put on it last friday.. Mechanically it sounds like a new sewing machine..

[Morcs]

My NC35 has 9500kms on it :P
and its a 1994

[Sidewinder]

My NC35 has 9500kms on it :P
and its a 1994

more miles than my diddle:Punk:

[gatch]

My NC35 has 9500kms on it :P
and its a 1994

Mean..

Do you plan on keeping it long term ? I can't wait to get this fucker paid off and spend some dollars on it.. I never had a boy racer car at high school, a few years up the road and I can't wait to bling it up good..

[Morcs]

Mean..

Do you plan on keeping it long term ? I can't wait to get this fucker paid off and spend some dollars on it.. I never had a boy racer car at high school, a few years up the road and I can't wait to bling it up good..

Yep, I bought it and kept it in the garage while I got a big jug of cash and poured into it :lol:

[loose_unit]

After 6 months I am selling my NC24 to upgrade to an RC36 VFR750 (I need more powar!)

It's listed on trademe, make me an offer: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-252312807.htm

Cheers!

[gatch]

Yep, I bought it and kept it in the garage while I got a big jug of cash and poured into it :lol:

primo, I saw some rc211 look alike fairings for the nc30 that look pretty horn, and a full stainless exhaust, ooo and marzocchi forks etc etc etc, just need to win lotto..

[gatch]

Some tasty looking bits from http://www.jap4performance.com/hondaNC30.html

Its all out of my price league at this stage, but hopefully when I gets the moneys they'll still be selling the bits..

[PirateJafa]

Some tasty looking bits from http://www.jap4performance.com/hondaNC30.html

Its all out of my price league at this stage, but hopefully when I gets the moneys they'll still be selling the bits..
Why the fook would you want those fairings?

They're hideous, compared to the radiant, elegant beauty that is a tidy pair of stock NC30 fairings.

[motorbyclist]

Some tasty looking bits from http://www.jap4performance.com/hondaNC30.html

Its all out of my price league at this stage, but hopefully when I gets the moneys they'll still be selling the bits..

that's just the TYGA fairing kit...

having seen it in the flesh, it looks OK except the headlights are a sin against all motorcycles, and why would go and you ruin what is already perfection?

with some new paint (again, why would you?) the old fairings look like new anyway - and tyga makes kits that still keep the original shape

[motorbyclist]

LOL - at the bottom of that jap4performance page is an NC35 kit for the NC30 :clap:

though the new radiators are a bloody good find - it's a shame they cost more than getting one made

[gatch]

yeah the headlights are definately rubbish, some 916 style eyes would be the go, otherwise i reckon the kit looks wicked..

[motorbyclist]

<img src="http://www.jap4performance.com/images/0309/rvffrontright.jpg">

:drool:

I always said that'd look awesome - now to see one with the red instead of white

[Sidewinder]

mine was the best tho
<img src=http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1424/172/83/1105320973/n1105320973_30055492_1848.jpg>

[gatch]

I always said that'd look awesome - now to see one with the red instead of white

are those wheels the oem jobbies off the nc35 ? i like em, i like em alot

[Sidewinder]

are those wheels the oem jobbies off the nc35 ? i like em, i like em alot

they look like carbonfibire to me dude

[gatch]

they look like carbonfibire to me dude

drats..

ahh well, when my porn videos sell in the states ill get some..

[Sidewinder]

drats..

ahh well, when my porn videos sell in the states ill get some..

they are like porn on a bike tho lol

[gatch]

I do concur..

[Sidewinder]

I do concur..

hate to crash with em tho, sure they would just shartter

[gatch]

Theres a vid floating around somewhere with a dude bouncing some carbon BST rims of the concrete floor.. I think older rims might be a worry, although I can't say for sure, the only carbon I own is my helmet, and that has be raked through the stones at manfield with only some scratches..

[tigertim20]

anyone on here got a regulaotr for a vfr400r NC24? its a 7 wire one, pm me if you can help out and we can talk turkey. sorry for the thread hijack!

[Warr]

anyone on here got a regulaotr for a vfr400r NC24? its a 7 wire one, pm me if you can help out and we can talk turkey. sorry for the thread hijack!

7 Wires .... ?

3 Yellow > Stator
1 Red > Output
1 ? > Sense

Perhaps
1 Black ? Earth

That makes 6. Not sure what #7 would be for
Cheap option. Go to any m/cycle wrecker, most bikes have the same setup. Even farm quads. buy anyone with a decent heat sink on it and solder it in.
Solder will last you longer as the crimp connectors loose their tension which causes resistance and with some current flowing you get heat and then melted connectors :(
When running ... Make sure you have over 50 volts AC between the yellows, this will indicate if there is deeper troubles lurking in the stator.

Not running ... The 3 yellows should have no connection to earth. (ground, or frame)

Good luck and dont spend too much :)

[vifferman]

7-wire is often 3=stator, and 2 each of earth and +ve.

[Swoop]

I've put up a thread in the social group specifically for suppliers and resources. If you know of somewhere that is useful for bits and pieces for the viffers, let others know please!

[raziel1983]

Anyone thinking of jumping on the VFR bandwagon need only take a look here!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1129528416#post1129528416

Cheers!

[koba]

There was an '02 VFR 800 at the sprints today.
From memory his best times were around 241KPH Flying and 11.3X standing.

[glegge]

There was an '02 VFR 800 at the sprints today.
From memory his best times were around 241KPH Flying and 11.3X standing.

Well, seems like a good time to jump in. i confess, that was me. yes, 241kph (removed the wing mirrors) and 11.3 standing with an almost empty tank and me trying to keep my weight forward on the launch. awesome weekend. off with the pipes next time i think! (vids on youtube, search for gavinlegge or cliffhanger 2009 if you want to hear the vfr800 with the ends of the exhaust modified :Oops:)

i have been lurking on KB for awhile now, but with the bikeoi have become a little more active. and of course i saw the street sprint thread and had to go didn't I...

So yeah, an 85VF1000R (which is currently de-reged but i'm getting the itch to get her on the road again after last weekend), the VFR800 2002 (latest addition to the garage) and i did have some time ago a rat vfr400 NC24 which was stolen from Haitaitai outside my flat a few years back. I miss that bike.
so yeah, sign me up for a Vee four lover for sure.

have a look at my profile pics to see the VF1000R (oh yeah, she dosint look like that any more (pics taken after body restored), the 1000 has over 280,000k's and is a bit worn out (but still a runner). and has been down the road a few times and used as a daily runner, so not looking so pretty today i'm afraid. time for another restore. but love the bike to bits. done a few 1000 milers on it as well. awesome machine.
), the 800 and i dont have any of the nc24 on here but there are some on http://www.angelfire.com/hi/VF1000R/vfr.html if you need a work shop manual for a VF1000R it can be found here.. http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/VF1000R

Hi to all. lovin KB so far.
cheers

[Swoop]

...off with the pipes next time i think!
Gudday!
If you whip off the pipes, you are looking at 115db of sonic power!
That is what mine read on the meter when in that configuration.:whistle:

[glegge]

Gudday!
If you whip off the pipes, you are looking at 115db of sonic power!
That is what mine read on the meter when in that configuration.:whistle:

Love it. i have to admit to trying this while the pipes where off in my garage during the modifying session i had with them. no pipes sounds awesome on the mighty V4!!

[gatch]

Mine runs about as well as 2 one-legged men in a 3 legged race with no pipe..

[vifferman]

have a look at my profile pics to see the VF1000R ...not looking so pretty today i'm afraid. time for another restore.
Hi, Mr Glegge. :wavey:

Have you checked out The Mrkn VFR forums? The best is VFR Discussion (http://www.vfrdiscussion.com), which has a few ongoing VF1000 restores going on.

[glegge]

Hi, Mr Glegge. :wavey:

Have you checked out The Mrkn VFR forums? The best is VFR Discussion (http://www.vfrdiscussion.com), which has a few ongoing VF1000 restores going on.

many thanks, i'll check it out. cheers

[Theflash]

Took the $300 TM special in on friday for a COF, WOF and REG. All passed except he made me go buy a $5 reflector for the back (LOL).
Not the tidiest machine..... An oldie, but a goodie.

Check it out.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/group.php?do=picture&groupid=29&pictureid=35913

PS: Still after a Tank at a good price, my bogging aint too hot.

Or if anyone has a bike with a kaput motor for cheap, i'm interested.

[gatch]

Ok vfr aficionados, I have stumbled across something which has me boggled a little.

Have most of the weekend free so I thought I would tootle around with the suspension settings on the vif, see what the adjusters can do, found the manual, preload and rebound damping are adjustable, sweet.

Gathered the necessary tools and went into the garage. Now it seems where on the drawing preload adjusters should be, there isn't. There is no place for a 14mm spanner, only the fork caps. Also on the rear the preload adjuster is a big nut on a ramp kind of set up, rather than the adjuster and lock nut on a fine thread.

This made me suspicious that my "1990" nc30 is actually an 89, inside the seat it says vfr400riii (k).

Its an 89 isn't it ?

[PirateJafa]

Look on the bright side - it's legit for the Post Classic Pre-89 Junior class now!

[motorbyclist]

This made me suspicious that my "1990" nc30 is actually an 89, inside the seat it says vfr400riii (k).

Its an 89 isn't it ?

dunno what the k means but it'll likely be the year or maybe colour.

it could well be an 89 model that sat on a showroom floor until being rego'd in 1990 (maybe even advertised as a 1990 bike)

it could be a 1990 model that's had the forks swapped out to improve a trackbike

it could be a 1990 model that's been badly crashed and had the suspension and maybe even tail replaced for all we know

either way there's not much you can do about it aside from selling it or just finding newer components

[gatch]

The frame shows not obvious signs of crash damage ?

Either way I'm not too bothered, preloading the front springs just means turning up some shims rather than turning a knob..

[motorbyclist]

The frame shows not obvious signs of crash damage ?

good job those fairings do isn't it? :bleh:

[Harvd]

Here ya go Click (http://www.vsource.org/VFR-RVF_files/Bvfr400r-mi.htm)

If its a "k" which it could be because regos especially of imports arnt always 100% accurate and could have even been sold new in 1990. If you go to here (http://www.vsource.org/VFR-RVF_files/BSuspensionmods.htm) you will see a bit of info on the fork details. From the first link does your paintjob match up with the model codes?

[gatch]

From the first link does your paintjob match up with the model codes?

Cool, yeah its the type 2, silver and black with red tail. It has the budget damper rod forks rather than the cartridge jobbies.. So it could well be a 90', just with poos forks, oh well, springs and GV's then, bummer ;)

Edit - It is an 89, K means 89 so the internet tells me..

[Runera]

Hey guys..

This is my VFR 400 NC30

[PirateJafa]

Hey guys..

This is my VFR 400 NC30
Very tidy mate, I approve of the white wheels too - always wanted some on mine. :(

Check out the SMC sub-forum - we have a lot of VFR enthusiasts, and plenty of rides over summer. And we're friendly people to boot!

[gatch]

Hey guys..

This is my VFR 400 NC30

Primo man, yer white wheels are the tits, a complete cock to keep clean though..

Much K's on it ow chur bay ?

[Runera]

Haha yeah the white is prime! But yeah as you said a bitch to keep clean! WD-40 every other day to keep them crispy it seems :P

Picked her up with only 16K on the clock. First NZ owner so very very tidy!

Runs like new :)

[motorbyclist]

WD-40 every other day to keep them crispy it seems :P

i like to keep WD40 well clear of my tyres and brakes... but maybe that's just me ;)

[nico]

are those wheels the oem jobbies off the nc35 ? i like em, i like em alot

the whole this carbon made by a company taga, in tailand i thinks they have some nice stuff on the web dono about geting it here thu

[nico]

Well, seems like a good time to jump in. i confess, that was me. yes, 241kph (removed the wing mirrors) and 11.3 standing with an almost empty tank and me trying to keep my weight forward on the launch. awesome weekend. off with the pipes next time i think! (vids on youtube, search for gavinlegge or cliffhanger 2009 if you want to hear the vfr800 with the ends of the exhaust modified :Oops:)

i have been lurking on KB for awhile now, but with the bikeoi have become a little more active. and of course i saw the street sprint thread and had to go didn't I...

So yeah, an 85VF1000R (which is currently de-reged but i'm getting the itch to get her on the road again after last weekend), the VFR800 2002 (latest addition to the garage) and i did have some time ago a rat vfr400 NC24 which was stolen from Haitaitai outside my flat a few years back. I miss that bike.
so yeah, sign me up for a Vee four lover for sure.

have a look at my profile pics to see the VF1000R (oh yeah, she dosint look like that any more (pics taken after body restored), the 1000 has over 280,000k's and is a bit worn out (but still a runner). and has been down the road a few times and used as a daily runner, so not looking so pretty today i'm afraid. time for another restore. but love the bike to bits. done a few 1000 milers on it as well. awesome machine.
), the 800 and i dont have any of the nc24 on here but there are some on http://www.angelfire.com/hi/VF1000R/vfr.html if you need a work shop manual for a VF1000R it can be found here.. http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/VF1000R

Hi to all. lovin KB so far.
cheers


og and chers for the help the other week if you need a hand with any thing let me know be more than happy to help .

nico

[nico]

hey vfrians not to sure if this the right place but i ment to post ages ago that the oil filter on the vfr's ive been using a repco one Z411 for about a year now no problems at all.
$6 vrs $24 from motomart it's a good option and in my eyes no difrence at all the seals are a perfect match as is size.

just thaught id post this up for others , take it or leave it

[vifferman]

the oil filter on the vfr's ive been using a repco one Z411 for about a year now no problems at all.
$6 vrs $24 from motomart it's a good option and in my eyes no difrence at all the seals are a perfect match as is size.
Yeah, there's lotsa Mrkns who alsp just use a no-name one from Walmart or wherever. As long as the filter paper (or whatever they use) and the valve thingo (relief valve?) are equivalent, it doesn't matter.
Much.

[hmmmnz]

well i havn't got a vfr as such ...no r for me :(
but here's my dream bike from when i was a wee lad,
<a href="http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/?action=view&current=DSCF2342Large.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g257/hmmmnz/th_DSCF2342Large.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket" ></a>

she's pretty much show room condition apart from the exhausts (removed for more noise, but still have them)

handling leaves alot to be desired, what with the crappy air shock on the back, but ill remedy that with a hagon later on

[gatch]

Does anyone have a shim kit ? Bikes hit 20k now, thought I should set a day aside and shim up te valves all good and chur.

[motorbyclist]

if you do find that the clearances are out you might get away with swapping the existing ones around....

[gatch]

Probably seen it before, but this guy has his shit down.. And weally short gearing..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTO2s7wyrFs

[gatch]

if you do find that the clearances are out you might get away with swapping the existing ones around....

I hope they do need doing, cause there is a new ticking sound coming from the right rear cylinder that wasn't there when I bought it..

[vifferman]

Probably seen it before, but this guy has his shit down.
yeah, prolly have, fer sher, fer sher. It's only been posted on teh interdweeb LIKE A HUNDRED BAJILLION FKN TIMES!!!

[gatch]

HUNDRED BAJILLION FKN TIMES!!!

Still a good watch..

[Theflash]

Did the mod to vacuum cutoff on the tank, pissed around with the carb balancing, to no avail. Finally worked up the nerve to take the carbs apart and what did I find. Two of the fricken main jets had unscrewed themselves and were rattling around in the float chamber (LOL), there were marks on them (someone had been in there b4). Needless to say, the NC21 is going a hell of a lot better. For a 23 year old bike, it still has some oompf. BOO YA.

[Swoop]

Excellent to hear!!
Just sorted in time fore some summer riding...:blip:

[gatch]

A short clip onf me going for a quiet boost down Paihiatua track, no sound as its only a still camera that can do some short video clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChSbXExFarM

[motorbyclist]

I hope they do need doing, cause there is a new ticking sound coming from the right rear cylinder that wasn't there when I bought it..

is it a knocking or a ticking?

if the oil is old and thinning the cams can get noisy.

if the plug cap is loose it may arc to the rocker cover and tick. That #3 cylinder plug also gets rain on it when parked outside.

if there is an air leak into the exhaust it will tick also, as the fresh air will ignite any unburnt fuel (actually provdes an emissions improvement lol) - this can happen at the head, but I had it happen where the two rear headers bolt to the mid-pipe which put the ticking down behind the right footpeg but could be mistaken for the #3 cylinder. Do check this as the nuts eventually rattled off and suddenly gave this awesome burbling noise from under my seat. Loved the noise but not the fire hazard ;)

lol most of these bikes tick anyway - but it never hurts to check. I'll be doing mine in a week or two as part of my 40k service, so maybe we could swap some shims around?

[Ender EnZed]

It's about time to replace my rear tyre, any suggestions?

[motorbyclist]

rubber works well

[gatch]

is it a knocking or a ticking?

if the oil is old and thinning the cams can get noisy.

if the plug cap is loose it may arc to the rocker cover and tick. That #3 cylinder plug also gets rain on it when parked outside.

if there is an air leak into the exhaust it will tick also, as the fresh air will ignite any unburnt fuel (actually provdes an emissions improvement lol) - this can happen at the head, but I had it happen where the two rear headers bolt to the mid-pipe which put the ticking down behind the right footpeg but could be mistaken for the #3 cylinder. Do check this as the nuts eventually rattled off and suddenly gave this awesome burbling noise from under my seat. Loved the noise but not the fire hazard ;)

lol most of these bikes tick anyway - but it never hurts to check. I'll be doing mine in a week or two as part of my 40k service, so maybe we could swap some shims around?

Its a quiet kind of tick, gets a little louder when its warm, so you may be on the money with the oil.. Changing that and filter next weekend.. On that, went into the local Honda shop, they wanted $32 for a Honda branded filter ! My buddy is getting me a high flow for $15..

Exhaust so far as I can tell is all tight and not leaking, it was leaking hard at the silencer/read pipe join, some tin foil sorted that :D

Yup, will also check clearances on the weekend and decide whether they actually need shimming, will give you a shout then..

[Runera]

Hey Guys.

Here is a quick video of my VFR and friends Fireblade. Just trying few test shots for new camera but you get the idea.

http://www.vimeo.com/8158145

[nico]

It's about time to replace my rear tyre, any suggestions?

rubber lol i use shinko 005 advance on the back of my viffer never had any problems seems to be quite good on the vfr's althu almost every 1 i talk to rubshes them?? dono why thu i find em good

[Swoop]

My buddy is getting me a high flow for $15.
I've always gone to Cycletreads. Around $12-15 and always available.

[gatch]

I've always gone to Cycletreads. Around $12-15 and always available.

That's how it should be. $32 for a filter.. might as well spit in my face.

[vifferman]

rubber lol i use shinko 005 advance on the back of my viffer never had any problems seems to be quite good on the vfr's althu almost every 1 i talk to rubshes them?? dono why thu i find em good
I don't know what the Shinko 005 Advance is like, but back in '99 I had Shinkos on my VFR750, and every tyre I've had since then has been heaps better. Best so far has been the Avon Storms.

[gatch]

When the IRC's are expired I'm going for some gpra10 I think..

[Harvd]

Well ive been drooling over NC30s for too long, and i finally got to ride one the other day, it was awsome in all respects, except for the position, was too far forward, especcially compared to the bandit. So then after trawling through trademe i spy a NC35, $5000 (knocked him down to $4500) but 55000 km.... so i went for a lookie, and after a decent testride (Still on 6r so was lucky the guy was relaxed) found the motor to smooth as and flawless throughout the rev range. Cosmetically its clean as on one side :) with some scratches to the stickers on the other :(

the ks initially gave me some worries but after a decent ride ive got none left, the motor is tight as ... :devil2:
Either way its fckin sexy and its all mine!!!!

So... am i in the club?

[PirateJafa]

Not enough power. Come back when ya got some sexy fairings like the NC30s too.

Welcome to the madhouse. :headbang:

[gatch]

is the 35 actually slower ?

[koba]

is the 35 actually slower ?

Doesn't seem to be much in it.

[koba]

I will be racing my VFR at wangas, dungery old standard NC21.

I will try post some pics of the prep and racing.

[gatch]

mean man do it !

I'd be out at wangas on the domy if I had more meetings under my belt..

[koba]

mean man do it !

I'd be out at wangas on the domy if I had more meetings under my belt..

Doing it I will be, I'm even working on making it look half decent!

[motorbyclist]

is the 35 actually slower ?

it's got less peak power (6hp on paper), but a much wider spread and shorter first gear to compensate.

It's also a bit more nimble, but doesn't feel quite as steady as the NC30 as a result....

and it's got better headlights than any other bike I've ridden and many cars, and fixed the three biggest (only?) flaws in the NC30 plus a few more extras, and is farking sexy :D


oh, and mine just clocked 40,000km today :D


only downside is NC30 parts are quite often not the same and NC35 parts are hard to find... and mine seems to have an electrical gremlin in the headlight circuit that keeps melting the switch

[gatch]

shorter first gear..

and it's got better headlights than any other bike I've ridden and many cars, and fixed the three biggest (only?) flaws in the NC30 plus a few more extras, and is farking sexy :D


What flaws ?

[Runera]

Hey guys. What do you all think of these?

http://s810.photobucket.com/albums/zz23/timmy66666_fairing/HONDA/NC30/?action=view&current=t6-2.jpg

[gatch]

Hey guys. What do you all think of these?

http://s810.photobucket.com/albums/zz23/timmy66666_fairing/HONDA/NC30/?action=view&current=t6-2.jpg

A little cheesy.. flames..

These are better (except for the criminally nasty headlights)

http://www.jap4performance.com/images/nc30/ncright.jpg

[motorbyclist]

What flaws ?

just minor ergonomics/fire hazards... they basically just refined things, met the new regulations and fitted some fucking awesome headlights.

three NC30 flaws:

first being if you adjust the clutch lever down any further than the slightly too high position, the cable hits the speedo. (fixed by moving speedo forward)

second being the heat of the engine/pipes heating under the seat and hot air sitting behind your knees. (fixed by changes to vents and addition of rubber flap)

third being any fuel tap leaks end in a callout to the fire department to to falling straight onto the rear headers. (fixed by aforementioned rubber flap)

the nc35 is a bit more flickable/changes line easier and there's other extras like greater rear tyre choice (not that a road user needs it) and the black air intakes provide cold air rather than hot air to the carbies


oh, and they moved the handlebars like 10mm into a more comfortable position along with all the changes to the chassis geometry and suspension setup

[gatch]

Right on, first one is already fixed..

got pissed off with the sore wrist from pulling the clutch on a funny angle..

good to know about the fuel tap, might make up a little ally thing to direct any possible leaks AWAY from super fire hazard.

[motorbyclist]

Right on, first one is already fixed..

got pissed off with the sore wrist from pulling the clutch on a funny angle..

good to know about the fuel tap, might make up a little ally thing to direct any possible leaks AWAY from super fire hazard.

pirateJafa picked up a burnt out vfr where we think the fuel line must have come loose or something - apparently bike felt like it ran out of gas, no better in reserve so pulled over.... fire ensued.

chassis melted and ended up in two parts, rocker covers melted, carbies were gone entirely as was the tank (I'm told it went *pop*), fairings all melted, wheel spokes (yes, the cast aluminium ones) were gone - heck even the resin holding the carbon fibre exhaust burnt off leaving just the fibre!

[Morcs]

just minor ergonomics/fire hazards... they basically just refined things, met the new regulations and fitted some fucking awesome headlights.

three NC30 flaws:

first being if you adjust the clutch lever down any further than the slightly too high position, the cable hits the speedo. (fixed by moving speedo forward)

second being the heat of the engine/pipes heating under the seat and hot air sitting behind your knees. (fixed by changes to vents and addition of rubber flap)

third being any fuel tap leaks end in a callout to the fire department to to falling straight onto the rear headers. (fixed by aforementioned rubber flap)

the nc35 is a bit more flickable/changes line easier and there's other extras like greater rear tyre choice (not that a road user needs it) and the black air intakes provide cold air rather than hot air to the carbies


oh, and they moved the handlebars like 10mm into a more comfortable position along with all the changes to the chassis geometry and suspension setup

Other differences:

RVF has lower Centre of gravity - engine mounted lower
Engine not painted - the VFRs paint flakes off a bit in time
Although the RVF bar position is better, the seating position feels a bit more cramped (only noticeable I think when you are 6'+)
RVF has shiny gold forks
And generally the RVF seems 10 years newer...
Both still have the annoying vacuum hose which breaks
RVF is much easier to remove the speed limiter on.

[motorbyclist]

And generally the RVF seems 10 years newer...

sums it all up pretty well right there

[motorbyclist]

Although, there does seems to be one possible flaw in the NC35 that as far as I can tell, has only affected myself and one UK rider (dunno where my bike was imported from so there's a slim chance it's the same machine):

the awesome headlights draw all their power through the headlight switch. The NC30 wiring and switch is the same, except the NC35 lights draw a fair bit more current, which has on occasion melted the switch..... meaning no lowbeams until opened up and repaired as best you can....


and the rectifier looks just as suspect as the NC30 one - except at 40,000km mine is yet to blow so maybe that flap that keeps hot air away from the rear of the bike also saves the rectifier

[vifferman]

the awesome headlights draw all their power through the headlight switch.
Very easy to fix - just buy a relay, a bit of wire, and some spade connectors.
Headlights (and horns, if you want decent sound) shouldn't run through the crappy skinny wires that come standard on most bikes.

Before my son sold his 205GTi we had a different problem: everything runs through relays, and many of them or their connector blocks had corrosion on the contacts, so it was one electrical item after another intermittenly failing (usually only when it wnet through a WOF test).

[gatch]

All good stuff to know..

I found a 2nd hand shock off a 92' nc30 for 20 pounds on ebay, I asked how much postage was going to be.. 60 pound !!

Add on top of that the international money transfer fee, maybe even customs charges, I'd be lucky to see change from 300 buck, what a joke ! for a 50-60 dollar item.

[motorbyclist]

Very easy to fix - just buy a relay, a bit of wire, and some spade connectors..

yep that's been the plan but I've just been putting it off until something else broke; of course nothing else broke but now it's at 40,000km I'm sick of opening the switchblock every 5000km to fix it and i'm removing the carbies for this service anyway


All good stuff to know..

I found a 2nd hand shock off a 92' nc30 for 20 pounds on ebay, I asked how much postage was going to be.. 60 pound !!

Add on top of that the international money transfer fee, maybe even customs charges, I'd be lucky to see change from 300 buck, what a joke ! for a 50-60 dollar item.

you reckon that shock is going to be any better than what you've got already? I doubt customs etc will hit you for much if at all but if you pay by credit card it might cost 1% or something like that for the currency conversion

[gatch]

That's what the seller quoted me for freight.. Something about a pressurized item, has to be packaged properly and insured etc, sounds like crap to me..


you reckon that shock is going to be any better than what you've got already? I doubt customs etc will hit you for much if at all but if you pay by credit card it might cost 1% or something like that for the currency conversion

I doubt the shock alone would be noticeably better, my plan was to take the mounting eye off the rod end and machine up a new one that's 10mm longer, I just don't want to pull the shock out and not be able to ride my bike for a week.. It's my only transport etc

[PirateJafa]

That's what the seller quoted me for freight.. Something about a pressurized item, has to be packaged properly and insured etc, sounds like crap to me..

It might potentially be considered a dangerous good under IATA, and if so, would have to meet their requirements for air freight transport. I haven't shipped a shock before, so sounds fair enough, to me...

[Rayray401]

well ive made up my mind, back to an nc30, so anyone got one for sale?

[gatch]

Morcs has a nc35 for sale ?

[motorbyclist]

That's what the seller quoted me for freight.. Something about a pressurized item, has to be packaged properly and insured etc, sounds like crap to me..

oh yeah, they don't like putting pressurized things in low pressure cargo holds where they might explode and take the whole plane down ;)



I doubt the shock alone would be noticeably better, my plan was to take the mounting eye off the rod end and machine up a new one that's 10mm longer, I just don't want to pull the shock out and not be able to ride my bike for a week.. It's my only transport etc

surely you could borrow one off a racer?

(and what is this going to achieve? my HRC manual says to use 1mm plates to shim up the rear for track use if that's what you're after)


well ive made up my mind, back to an nc30, so anyone got one for sale?

didn't you just sell one?

morcs has one for sale but if you dare scratch or butcher it me, jafa, and the rest of the VFRPS will be paying a little visit....

[motorbyclist]

Morcs has a nc35 for sale ?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129578554&postcount=21

it's a bargain too - less than 10000km on the clock for $5800

[Morcs]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1129578554&postcount=21

it's a bargain too - less than 10000km on the clock for $5800

The price is $7k - thats how much It owes me and I wont part for a cent less :innocent:

I got it so cheap as I negotiated the price down as there were quite a few things I needed to do to get it on the road...

And it ticked over 10,000 last week :O

[gatch]

oh yeah, they don't like putting pressurized things in low pressure cargo holds where they might explode and take the whole plane down ;)

surely you could borrow one off a racer?

(and what is this going to achieve? my HRC manual says to use 1mm plates to shim up the rear for track use if that's what you're after)

I just got some clarification form the IATA, basically it wouldn't be counted as dangerous - "A114 (283) Articles, containing gas intended to function as shock absorbers, including impact energy absorbing devices or pneumatic springs are not subject to these Regulations provided: ", still I'm not going to bother paying 60 pounds for shipping for a 20 pound item is just silly..

The intention is to make the bike turn a little quicker, I'm interested to see what changes can be made without a complete rebuild of the forks/shock, that will come in good time.. I should be able to turn a thread on the shock somewhere, to adjust the ride height with the shock on the bike, if it turns out to not be viable than its no big loss..

[motorbyclist]

The intention is to make the bike turn a little quicker, I'm interested to see what changes can be made without a complete rebuild of the forks/shock

you want to reduce trail (and/or rake angle)

this is easiest done by tipping the bike forward - by either adjusting the fork height in the triple clamps or adding spacers to the rear shock mounting (or get an adjustable length shock)

before you do that you want to ensure your preloading is all correct (google for "sag" measurements)

read: http://www.sportrider.com/suspension_settings/suspension_setup/146_0402_suspension_setup_guide/index.html

talk to robert taylor here on KB.

[motorbyclist]

Oh, and who was doing their valve clearances? Just checked mine and most are towards the loose end with #4 being a little tight (but all seem within spec nonetheless)

[motorbyclist]

holyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshit

Mr Honda, in all his effort to make V4 maintenance a nightmare, has designed some of the easiest shims ever to replace - and to think i was only going to do them if they were too tight :laugh:

[gatch]

that was me, I got too pissed up on the weekend and don't want to play with important engine bits with anything less than a clear head..

[motorbyclist]

well get cracking 'cause this motor is going to be closed by tomorrow night for at least another 15,000km (bike gods willing)

[imdying]

Oh, and who was doing their valve clearances? Just checked mine and most are towards the loose end with #4 being a little tight (but all seem within spec nonetheless)Don't worry about it too much, they're either within spec or they're not :)

[gatch]

Haa toooo late huh, beers at the work break up..

[koba]

Haa toooo late huh, beers at the work break up..

Alky! <tenchar>

[gatch]

Alky! <tenchar>

my secret shame reveaqled !!!

I do love a beer or 40

[motorbyclist]

FFS I got sold the wrong size bloody plugs - oh well I guess they'll have to wait for the 45 or 50k service then

[Muppet]

I love my VFR it being the model VFR750FR of 1994 (which I think is also known by design model number RC36 but I think that applied to all VFRs from 1990 until the 800 came out). I bought it sight unseen when the model was launched overseas I just told Sawyers (Garry Winn at the time) get me one of those so I got probably the first one landed in NZ Feb 94 and 13 years later I have no regrets about buying it. It is fast and enjoyable to ride even two-up with Mrs merv on the back. You've seen stacks of my pics but here's that one I showed after it had been cleaned http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3205&d=1093676652 which I only do about twice a year but when I do I do it properly.

Big ups are it is smooth at any revs - doesn't lurch and jerk like a Ducati so will pootle along in 50k zones in as high as 4th gear - it has squirt when you want it, and it will do around 20km/l on 91 octane even at the pace I ride at giving it 350km until the fuel light comes on and a safe 400km on its 21 litre tank. Handling is neutral so it carves through corners - real racers would say its too low to the ground as it is easy to scrape the pegs especially two up and I scrape the collector box on left hand curves so have had to have the seam welded once already. So yes it is a sports tourer not a sprots bike but I don't want to do 300km/hr on the road anyway.

At last an honest bike assessment, bloody good on ya fella!

[Warr]

Anyone got a left front fairing panel for my '90 750F ?

[Robwills15]

Hey

Umm 89 VFR400R - NC30.

Being fixed up right now after years off the road - a semi double trailer rig did a L turn on me into a side street in front of me and I had no where to go but down. Can't remember anything about it ...

Anyway that scared the crap out of me ... and my son who was 9 at the time saw the bike on the side of the road when he was out with his mum (ex-wife ... Ducati rider !). He rides an old school Yamaha trail bike now at 14.

So I've finally put my demon's to rest and fixing her up ... doing a RC211V fairing Tyga conversion .... keeping the old NC30 tail until I get a new WOF but as a single seat only .... and then doing a custom RC211V tail later on.

I'm only 5"2 so the NC30 is perfect for me .... I saw an RC30 for sale in Wellington years ago in in the race Castrol colour set-up.... sold for 30K and it went to an over-sea's buyer. That was beautiful.

Sanding the tank and fairing ready for paint .... looking at the paint options now and still undecided as yet. Test fitting the RC211V front and lights before paint for the fit.

Daily driver is a Mitsi Airtrek. Weekend car is a red 1989 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo 2 seater Hardtop - just fitted a Race Logic traction control system into her ....

I'll look at posting progress picts if I can get the camera sorted ....

Any other NC30 guys here ?

Cheers, Rob

[motorbyclist]

Any other NC30 guys here ?

Cheers, Rob

we'd be getting well into the double digits by now :)

[smoky]

Anyone got a left front fairing panel for my '90 750F ?

Again.........

[gatch]

Any other NC30 guys here ?

Cheers, Rob

Cool man. I would love the RC211 fairings.. Not so keen on the headlights, I reckon some ducati 916 looking items would be the business though..

I've an 89, it's my daily transport, my weekend cane and my tourer haha.

Lots of things I would like, no money to do any of them.

[gatch]

As much as I don't want to admit, I can't afford to keep my vfr, bill payments have made maintainance costs terrifying to the point where if I keep it, it will turn into a shit heap.

So I would rather get rid of the lovely lovely thing while it is still fresh and good.

:(

[motorbyclist]

how do you get to work? I've found my 400 is so much cheaper to park/run it makes up for all the other money i waste on it :D (plus of course the time it saves me every rush hour)

[gatch]

Work is a 25 minutes on the bmx away..

About 7 on the vfr..

Its not the cost of running the bike, its all the other stuff that needs to be paid that is going to make maintainance an issue.. So would like to sell now before it gets behind..