South Auckland Street Skills

[Big Dog]

No ART days for me then until I get more gear. Good to get info about whats required

If that is only thing stopping you, you can borrow my back protector for the day. But it is an xxxl.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Gremlin]

Another little rule i have not mentioned about the ART day. If you happen to have an off. Which is not likely, you and your bike will be but on a trailer. And driven through the pits. Slowly. You may encounter some ridicule from your fellow riders.:crazy:
Marshals have first dibs on laughs anyway :bleh:

They also have the option of kicking you for being stupid, and the odds of this occurring are directly proportional to how well the marshal knows you :D

[nzspokes]

If that is only thing stopping you, you can borrow my back protector for the day. But it is an xxxl.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Thanks Mathew, good of you.

[nzspokes]

Marshals have first dibs on laughs anyway :bleh:

They also have the option of kicking you for being stupid, and the odds of this occurring are directly proportional to how well the marshal knows you :D

I try not to be stupid, but there is no guarantee that it wont happen though.

[Gremlin]

I try not to be stupid, but there is no guarantee that it wont happen though.
Yeup, seen plenty. :msn-wink:

No risk on the 11th (well, not from me). It clashes with something else.

[eldog]

If that is only thing stopping you, you can borrow my back protector for the day. But it is an xxxl.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Thanks for the offer. An xxxl I could wrap it right around my whole body and have a chest protector as well. Have to Cut holes for eyes to see through :laugh:

I was interested in ART but the info came too late and I already had another mission planned. But its good to know for next time maybe. :mellow:
Always learning sumtimk new. :facepalm:

[nzspokes]

Ive been asked about spectators for the ART day as we have 3 going now. No problem. Just turn up. Better still be a marshal. You will see more and be part of the action.

[nzspokes]

Riding its Friday isnt it, you lucky bugger, Saturday is out too, Sunday who knows? :bleh:

Im doing a Motott day at Taupo on Friday. ART day is the week after.

[nzspokes]

Great to have you along tonight. It was another great ride. Suddenly things are starting to click into place and those nasty right handers are getting better. Just downloading the gopro. Looks good so far. Have to figure out how to upload them.

Ment to say yes you have come a long way. You saw a problem and have worked on it with Ks under the belt. Nice. :scooter:

[Grandad]

Ment to say yes you have come a long way. You saw a problem and have worked on it with Ks under the belt. Nice. :scooter:
At the end of the day its the only real answer. You can read and watch every book, blog, video but unless you get your bum in the seat and get out and do it you will never master it. What was it Dora said "keep on swimming, just keep swimming" Good luck to all heading to Taupo this weekend. Weather does not sound the best so ride to the conditions.

[nzspokes]

At the end of the day its the only real answer. You can read and watch every book, blog, video but unless you get your bum in the seat and get out and do it you will never master it. What was it Dora said "keep on swimming, just keep swimming" Good luck to all heading to Taupo this weekend. Weather does not sound the best so ride to the conditions.

Who is Dora?

Your right. Me and my CBX rode every second we could get away and I could afford petrol.

Just me and Sharry going down. weather is occasional showers. Will be fine.

[aws]

AWS, rule on the back protector. "It needs to be a hard shell and preferably articulated back protector. An in jacket one will be passed but not if it is simply a foam insert". But the comment was made that a proper Back protector is far safer and is the recommended option.


I've been doing a little bit of research on back protectors, and from what I can see it seems that the "hard shell" style of back protector is not the only way to skin a cat. It seems that reactive or intelligent polymers now form the basis of many of the higher performing protectors. Rather than using a hard shell and polystyrene to spread the loads, they use quite a dense foam that "hardens" on impact - rather like the way cornflower reacts to fast movement (look up non-Newtonian fluid). As well as providing top-notch impact protection, they soften when warm and conform to the users body shape, making them really comfortable too. While CE Level 2 back protectors need to transfer less than 9 KN in the standard test, some of the best ones can transfer less than 4 KN.

It's just my guess, but maybe in a few years these advanced materials will have taken over and we'll see hard plastic only used on the cheaper versions (if this does come to pass - just remember you heard it here first! ;) )

What's been good about this issue coming up is that it has made me realise that I could be using high performance back protection in my existing jacket on my day-to-day commute for a relatively modest cost. The problem however is that the "soft" system I would choose for daily use may not be accepted at the track and I'd have to fork out triple the cash for a hard shell protector that provides less impact protection over a slightly larger area, and that I will only ever wear occasionally... What to do...? What to do....?

[nzspokes]

I have knee and elbow protection that's soft but hardens on impact so not new.

[nzspokes]

And as you're in textile, what is the abrasion resistance like? I wouldn't mind a lighter one.

[Big Dog]

Sounds like a spin off the latest gen of bullet body armour.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[aws]

I have knee and elbow protection that's soft but hardens on impact so not new.

Yeah, when I say new, I mean like in the last 5 or 6 years. But the materials are probably older than that - it seems like they probably came from the military - much like everything :)

[aws]

And as you're in textile, what is the abrasion resistance like? I wouldn't mind a lighter one.

I don't know that abrasion resistance really comes into it. From my reading, CE Level 2 certification is all about impact reduction and coverage. To be certified Level 2 it needs to transfer less than 9 kN and it needs to cover a certain portion of the back. I didn't see any comment on abrasion resistance. Also, some people express interest in whether the polymer back protectors have the same puncture resistance as plastic (in case they get a footpeg in the back). However Forcefield, commenting on their "Forcefield Pro Sub 4" noted that this type of impact is exceedingly rare, so it is not normally a consideration. And any footpeg would first have to penetrate the leather or Cordura jacket first - not an easy ask.

Another reason I don't think abrasion resistance is much of an issue is that jackets are typically not reinforced on the back. They use their strongest and most abrasion resistant materials on the shoulders and elbows, but often the back is just normal Cordura, or even mesh on an airflow jacket. So I think the whole back protector thing is more about absorbing the initial impact, or impact on obstacles, rather than providing a surface to slide on.

Having said that, the material is quite stiff when it is impacted and quite thick, so you'd need to wear through probably an inch or more of it whereas hard shell plastic would be maybe a couple of mm before you are into the EPS (polystyrene) core.

[nzspokes]

I don't know that abrasion resistance really comes into it. From my reading, CE Level 2 certification is all about impact reduction and coverage. To be certified Level 2 it needs to transfer less than 9 kN and it needs to cover a certain portion of the back. I didn't see any comment on abrasion resistance. Also, some people express interest in whether the polymer back protectors have the same puncture resistance as plastic (in case they get a footpeg in the back). However Forcefield, commenting on their "Forcefield Pro Sub 4" noted that this type of impact is exceedingly rare, so it is not normally a consideration. And any footpeg would first have to penetrate the leather or Cordura jacket first - not an easy ask.

Another reason I don't think abrasion resistance is much of an issue is that jackets are typically not reinforced on the back. They use their strongest and most abrasion resistant materials on the shoulders and elbows, but often the back is just normal Cordura, or even mesh on an airflow jacket. So I think the whole back protector thing is more about absorbing the initial impact, or impact on obstacles, rather than providing a surface to slide on.

Having said that, the material is quite stiff when it is impacted and quite thick, so you'd need to wear through probably an inch or more of it whereas hard shell plastic would be maybe a couple of mm before you are into the EPS (polystyrene) core.

As we are talking track day requirement, then a level of abrasion resistance is of significance if wearing textile. I believe textile is a one shot deal. My textiles when i slid after hitting a car were destroyed. That was at maybe 45kph. Knee burnt through to the pad, and jacket burnt on the elbow. Go for a slide on the track at say 100kph then you wont be re-using them.

Today a guy went down in front of my at about 80kph. Nice slide into the kitty litter. After finding a new lever blade he was back out. His leathers had minor scuffs. I noticed that most of the faster guys had scuffed leathers.

But for road use I would like a lighter back protector so if these polymer ones are any good I would take a look for sure. Thats why I got them for my knees and elbows in my leathers. I would not use a pocket type protector, it would have to be a strap type. As Sharry said, why protect only part of your back. And she is living proof.

[nzspokes]

It was a wee bit wet....

[nzspokes]

Nice little write up on tyre wear. Track based but the rules apply to road the same. At Sass my rear tyre should not have worn on the edges so this is a little test. Read the write up and tell me what is wrong with my setup on the rear tyre.

http://biketrackdayshub.com/motorcycle-tyre-wear-guide/

[f2dz]

Bank account is crying at the moment. Pretty much got all new gear minus a helmet today

Got me a Tryonic back protector that's pretty good. I'll bring everything on Tuesday if it's not raining.

Pity about the weather in Taupo, Rob. Keen to hear about how it went though.

[nzspokes]

Bank account is crying at the moment. Pretty much got all new gear minus a helmet today

Got me a Tryonic back protector that's pretty good. I'll bring everything on Tuesday if it's not raining.

Pity about the weather in Taupo, Rob. Keen to hear about how it went though.

Was a good day all in all. Learnt a ton. Got the bike setup close. Bike has great power.

Tuesday looks good. I will be hanging off the bike a lot. Not because Im going fast but because I need to build the strength to do it. Got tired but in saying that Taupo has 14 corners in 2.2ks I think they said. Hampton has 6.

[nzspokes]

Nice little write up on tyre wear. Track based but the rules apply to road the same. At Sass my rear tyre should not have worn on the edges so this is a little test. Read the write up and tell me what is wrong with my setup on the rear tyre.

http://biketrackdayshub.com/motorcycle-tyre-wear-guide/

Managed to get a good shot of it so we can look at it now. What do you guys think is happening here?

[aws]

As we are talking track day requirement, then a level of abrasion resistance is of significance if wearing textile. I believe textile is a one shot deal. My textiles when i slid after hitting a car were destroyed. That was at maybe 45kph. Knee burnt through to the pad, and jacket burnt on the elbow. Go for a slide on the track at say 100kph then you wont be re-using them.

Today a guy went down in front of my at about 80kph. Nice slide into the kitty litter. After finding a new lever blade he was back out. His leathers had minor scuffs. I noticed that most of the faster guys had scuffed leathers.

But for road use I would like a lighter back protector so if these polymer ones are any good I would take a look for sure. Thats why I got them for my knees and elbows in my leathers. I would not use a pocket type protector, it would have to be a strap type. As Sharry said, why protect only part of your back. And she is living proof.

Been doing a bit more reading on this whole back protector caper and it seems they don't really do what most people think they do. It seems that the manufacturers don't actually say that a back protector will help prevent a spinal injury, but they don't exactly set the record straight either. The Motorcycle Council of NSW has some very useful information on protective gear on their website http://roadsafety.mccofnsw.org.au/a/75.html (here) (see link near the bottom - No 8. Impact Protectors).

Based on accident research some 13% of people sustain a back injury in a crash, but only 1% due to a direct spinal impact. Most spinal injuries are caused by overextension, bending or twisting of the spine caused by impacts to the head or side - not something a back protector can help you with. However experts still recommend using a back protector since they do reduce muscle strains and bruising.

There is lots of other really interesting and useful information on the site - and they aren't afraid to point out that there are some things that no protective gear can save you from - such as hitting objects at high speed. Something I found really interesting is how much variety there is in the quality of basic gear (jackets and pants), how many would fail CE testing and how even leather garments aren't immune. I was really surprised at how many leather garments would fail testing - and not necessarily the cheap ones. The biggest problem appears to be inadequate seams bursting. It appears that it is quite difficult to get a jacket to pass CE testing so a lot of manufacturers don't bother - they list EN 1621-1 and EN 1621-2, but this is the armour rather than the garment - EN 13595 is the certification for the jacket. Anyway, have a read for yourselves... I'll certainly be taking a bit more interest next time I buy gear.

[Gremlin]

Most spinal injuries are caused by overextension, bending or twisting of the spine caused by impacts to the head or side - not something a back protector can help you with. However experts still recommend using a back protector since they do reduce muscle strains and bruising.
I suggest you know a bit more about back protectors before you start casting your opinion as fact. My back protector has interlocking plates that will prevent hyperextension of the spine.

I also love how you seem to think they don't do anything, when actually, they do... but hey, it's your spine.

[nzspokes]

There is lots of other really interesting and useful information on the site - and they aren't afraid to point out that there are some things that no protective gear can save you from - such as hitting objects at high speed. Something I found really interesting is how much variety there is in the quality of basic gear (jackets and pants), how many would fail CE testing and how even leather garments aren't immune. I was really surprised at how many leather garments would fail testing - and not necessarily the cheap ones. The biggest problem appears to be inadequate seams bursting. It appears that it is quite difficult to get a jacket to pass CE testing so a lot of manufacturers don't bother - they list EN 1621-1 and EN 1621-2, but this is the armour rather than the garment - EN 13595 is the certification for the jacket. Anyway, have a read for yourselves... I'll certainly be taking a bit more interest next time I buy gear.

Interesting that the references are over 10 years old from magazines.

[bawked]

won't be able to make it this tuesday either, bike is still in at the shop :(

[aws]

I suggest you know a bit more about back protectors before you start casting your opinion as fact. My back protector has interlocking plates that will prevent hyperextension of the spine.

I also love how you seem to think they don't do anything, when actually, they do... but hey, it's your spine.

Hey, I'm no expert of back protectors - I've just been looking into them and found some interesting information that appears to have some science behind it rather than just marketing hype and anecdote. But everyone should do their own research and make their own decisions. I've not used a back protector for commuting in the past, but as a result of my research I will be purchasing one shortly - so I am now convinced that they are useful :).


Interesting that the references are over 10 years old from magazines.

Good spotting. I didn't notice the dates of the references before - they do appear to be quite old. I don't imagine the main findings from the crash statistics would have changed much, but I'd expect and hope that the clothing and protection technology would be moving on quite quickly. It would be really interesting to see how current gear compares.

Another thing worth noting is that the statistics relate to road riding rather than track. So the injuries are related to hitting obstacles and other vehicles rather than just sliding at high speed.

Did you look at the page on what Australian Riders actually wear? It's amazing that over 50% wore jeans in 2003. I wonder if that has changed in the past 10 years. The fact that pillions are less well protected than riders I don't think was any great surprise.

[f2dz]

Managed to get a good shot of it so we can look at it now. What do you guys think is happening here?

Hot tearing maybe?

[nzspokes]

Yes thats one thing, what is the other?

[f2dz]

Tread edges seem quite pronounced on one side and not the other.

Other than that I dunno.

[nzspokes]

Which means?

[f2dz]

Rebound is too... slow? :sweatdrop

[nzspokes]

Close, to fast as its built up on the trailing edge. But you got the idea. You can now read tyres. This of course applies to road as well.

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[nzspokes]

won't be able to make it this tuesday either, bike is still in at the shop :(

Stink, whats getting done?

Hopefully it will be back running soon.

[nzspokes]

Bank account is crying at the moment. Pretty much got all new gear minus a helmet today

Got me a Tryonic back protector that's pretty good. I'll bring everything on Tuesday if it's not raining.

Pity about the weather in Taupo, Rob. Keen to hear about how it went though.

So weather is looking good. Jayne will love to see you in leather.........

[nzspokes]

Couple of random track day photos.

[Sharry]

Hey, I'm no expert of back protectors - I've just been looking into them and found some interesting information that appears to have some science behind it rather than just marketing hype and anecdote. But everyone should do their own research and make their own decisions. I've not used a back protector for commuting in the past, but as a result of my research I will be purchasing one shortly - so I am now convinced that they are useful :).



Did you look at the page on what Australian Riders actually wear? It's amazing that over 50% wore jeans in 2003. I wonder if that has changed in the past 10 years. The fact that pillions are less well protected than riders I don't think was any great surprise.

In relation to people not wearing the right gear, when I started riding in 1979 the right gear was a $30 helmet, $60 leather gauntlets (sheep wool lined) buckled up, steel caped leather boots a $500 leather jacket and a pair of jeans (7 pairs to manage rain). I only saw girls in leather pants back then out night clubbing.

I still buy the best I can afford, now we have armour, pants and back protectors (they are called that as that is what they are/do)

Some people still chose to not wear protective gear, that is their choice but it doesn't make it the right choice ....... There is no helping stupid

In my last accident I cracked L4 & 5 as my back protector didn't cover them.... my new back protector is longer as I don't want to crack any more of my spine.

[nzspokes]

In relation to people not wearing the right gear, when I started riding in 1979 the right gear was a $30 helmet, $60 leather gauntlets (sheep wool lined) buckled up, steel caped leather boots a $500 leather jacket and a pair of jeans (7 pairs to manage rain). I only saw girls in leather pants back then out night clubbing.

I still buy the best I can afford, now we have armour, pants and back protectors (they are called that as that is what they are/do)

Some people still chose to not wear protective gear, that is their choice but it doesn't make it the right choice ....... There is no helping stupid

In my last accident I cracked L4 & 5 as my back protector didn't cover them.... my new back protector is longer as I don't want to crack any more of my spine.

Interesting point in the article. It says protectors wont stop broken bones, it just means you get fractures instead of breaks or compound breaks. So if this is to be believed, would you not rather a fractured spine over a broken one?

[Grandad]

managed to get a good shot of it so we can look at it now. What do you guys think is happening here?

sideways hot

[Theantidote]

If anyone is keen for a quiet roady to taupo and back on saturday for a coffee and something to eat i'm heading down...pm me if you're keen...pre ride coffee at mine bout 8am...prebike check then off at 9am...plan on taking it slow and relaxed...
Oh yeah also need to pick up my boy who is hanging out with his nana at 5 mile bay....
If i can finish at vet tomorrow early enuff i'll see you all at the start...maybe at the end...brownie points building...yes

[Sis]

So weather is looking good. Jayne will love to see you in leather.........


I wonder if his secret admirer will like the leather?:facepalm:

[f2dz]

If anyone is keen for a quiet roady to taupo and back on saturday for a coffee and something to eat i'm heading down...pm me if you're keen...pre ride coffee at mine bout 8am...prebike check then off at 9am...plan on taking it slow and relaxed...
Oh yeah also need to pick up my boy who is hanging out with his nana at 5 mile bay....
If i can finish at vet tomorrow early enuff i'll see you all at the start...maybe at the end...brownie points building...yes

Would be keen but got a track day this Saturday. Hope the weather is good for both activities!


I wonder if his secret admirer will like the leather?:facepalm:

Hey, if it gets me a free coffee I'm down.

I'll see how it feels on the way home in my textiles. I went out for a ride in the leathers on the weekend and the perforations make it a bit breezy, which is nice for summer time but maybe not so much just yet.

[nzspokes]

Anybody else feel like a longer ride as its a nice night?

Also we will be leaving at 7. No later.

[Tigadee]

Sorry, I won't be there. Still not legal yet till thursday, then I get me WOF, and then I get me rego sorted.

Also moving this weekend! :eek:

Will catch up with the aSASSins next Tuesday! :headbang:

Till then, I'm :wait: :wait: :wait:

[Kartik]

Anybody else feel like a longer ride as its a nice night?

Also we will be leaving at 7. No later.
A longer ride sounds great. Count me in.

[f2dz]

I'm keen for a longer ride too. I might be 10 mins late though, so try not to leave without me.

I'll txt Sis if I'm running super late.

[Sis]

I have a pic but it is not very clear. That is a manual in the left hand

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=303123&thumb=1&d=1412673581

[Sis]

This was not all of the bikes.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=303122&thumb=1&d=1412673541

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=303121&thumb=1&d=1412673490

[Sis]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=303120&thumb=1&d=1412673450

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=303119&thumb=1&d=1412673405

[Kartik]

Thanks for a great ride guys. Awesome pics.

[nzspokes]

Fraser, and others. Suspension set up vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JtVBOxtbww

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJV-jhEtjz4&list=UUNdAE_YXk3VPx0HPcMdUa7w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjGgq1z9zbo

[nzspokes]

Just an idea Fraser, I have to go out tomorrow night and get spare fuel for my bike. I have a few fuel tins and can pick up 5 or 10L of whatever grade you need and bring it out if you want? You can just pay me for it out there. That way you have some to get home as well.

[f2dz]

Fraser, and others. Suspension set up vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JtVBOxtbww

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJV-jhEtjz4&list=UUNdAE_YXk3VPx0HPcMdUa7w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjGgq1z9zbo

Awesome, thanks. I'll check these out tonight when I have a go at adjusting everything. I found a good post on a gixxer forum too that will be a lot of help. I've been reading approx 30mm of sag like you said.


Just an idea Fraser, I have to go out tomorrow night and get spare fuel for my bike. I have a few fuel tins and can pick up 5 or 10L of whatever grade you need and bring it out if you want? You can just pay me for it out there. That way you have some to get home as well.

Not so worried about gas getting home, just so long as I have enough to get around the track without leaving. You think I'll have enough? 17L tank/roughly 220-240km on that.

If not, then if you could grab me some 95/98 then that'd be awesome, thanks. :)


Great ride last night, even if it was a tad chilly. I dressed up in leathers all for nothing – no chocolate heart, no free coffee. Lost my touch..

[nzspokes]

It should be ok on a tank. But up to you. Can get some if you want.

[f2dz]

Hrm, might take some just in case if you don't mind. Let me know how much I owe ya. Thanks Rob.

A useful thread on a gixxer forum about suspension: http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60836

[Gremlin]

Not so worried about gas getting home, just so long as I have enough to get around the track without leaving. You think I'll have enough? 17L tank/roughly 220-240km on that.
Depends how you ride it, but you're not going to get regular consumption at the track. Last time I did some track time, instead of 5-6L/100km, I got more like 10L/100km :lol:

[nzspokes]

Hrm, might take some just in case if you don't mind. Let me know how much I owe ya. Thanks Rob.

A useful thread on a gixxer forum about suspension: http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60836

No worries, 5 or 10L?

Will read the link a bit later. Just doing a plug chop.

[nzspokes]

Depends how you ride it, but you're not going to get regular consumption at the track. Last time I did some track time, instead of 5-6L/100km, I got more like 10L/100km :lol:

True that. I did 5L in 2 sessions at Taupo.

[Grandad]

I have a pic but it is not very clear. That is a manual in the left hand

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=303123&thumb=1&d=1412673581

Hey I learn't a long time ago if in doubt find out. and if that means reading a manual or asking what the heck. Have wrecked too many things being "MALE EGO". THANKS for a great ride. Really enjoyed it. Good doing roads we knew and then ones we had not seen for a while if at all. Confidence coming along great. Amazing what a little extra light on a corner does for your speed/comfort.
If this is a taste of things to come this summer then we will certainly have some great evenings.

[f2dz]

No worries, 5 or 10L?

Will read the link a bit later. Just doing a plug chop.

Crap sorry late reply. 10L would be good, but happy with anything really. Chur

[f2dz]

Okay, so I've done some measuring.

Front forks have 20mm of static sag, 40mm rider sag.
Rear shock has 5mm of static sag, 20mm rider sag.

Based off of those RT videos, the static sag of the front seems too low but the rider sag seems passable.

The rear shock's static sag seems right on but the rider sag could perhaps be a bit more.

Idea on where to go from here? I haven't touched preload or anything on either yet.

[nzspokes]

Crap sorry late reply. 10L would be good, but happy with anything really. Chur

Cool, will go pick some up tonight when I grab some for me.

[nzspokes]

Okay, so I've done some measuring.

Front forks have 20mm of static sag, 40mm rider sag.
Rear shock has 5mm of static sag, 20mm rider sag.

Based off of those RT videos, the static sag of the front seems too low but the rider sag seems passable.

The rear shock's static sag seems right on but the rider sag could perhaps be a bit more.

Idea on where to go from here? I haven't touched preload or anything on either yet.

I would add preload to the front and see how it changes. See if you can get the rider in the 30mm bracket. You dont have time for a spring change so getting rider sag right would be the goal. Your static will drop with more preload to. But remember that as the front comes up it will load the rear more so that may sort the rear numbers for you.

Good to see your starting to understand it. Not hard once you get an understanding.:niceone:

[nzspokes]

This is why we position in a corner like we do.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=792196940837549&fref=nf

[Big Dog]

Rather lucky that was not while he was hands free.

His response is priceless.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[f2dz]

I would add preload to the front and see how it changes. See if you can get the rider in the 30mm bracket. You dont have time for a spring change so getting rider sag right would be the goal. Your static will drop with more preload to. But remember that as the front comes up it will load the rear more so that may sort the rear numbers for you.

Good to see your starting to understand it. Not hard once you get an understanding.:niceone:

Yup, slowly getting there.

I quickly dialled my rebound back a half turn last night before going to bed and I think it tidied up that slight jump at the top of the rebound stroke that you noted on Tuesday. Front end seems a bit more responsive. Gonna dial in some more preload later tonight.

In other news, I got my Drift Ghost-S camera in the mail yesterday and tested it in the afternoon as well as this morning. The only bad news is that I just got word that helmet cams are allowed at HD but not at ART days.

I'm guessing cameras mounted to your tank are okay if you managed to get footage of your last time, Rob? Kinda shitty how my camera didn't come with any kind of mounting to be able to do that..

[nzspokes]

I ran my camera on my helmet at art days. Maybe I just didn't get caught. But having done it at speeds its not fun. What's the mount system like.

[f2dz]

I ran my camera on my helmet at art days. Maybe I just didn't get caught. But having done it at speeds its not fun. What's the mount system like.

It's a curved adhesive mount. The camera is decently low profile. I can feel the weight of it on the helmet but it doesn't seem to attract too much wind drag.

I'm gonna go have a look for another mount at lunch. I hope they'll let me run with one. Yours is fixed to your tank right?

[nzspokes]

Yes. I have a contour helmet mount stuck to the tank.

[f2dz]

Ok I just got an email that they don't like you using any cameras as it will add to potential debris on the track if you have an off, or if it falls off, but they won't stop you from using one.

Phew, crisis avoided.

Here's a shot from video I took last night:

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[nzspokes]

Sweet. It takes a good pic.

[nzspokes]

Picked $20 worth of 95 tonight.

[f2dz]

Picked $20 worth of 95 tonight.

Aaand I just so happen to have made $20 tonight selling an old broken Xbox. Purrfect. Thanks again.

Got a friend to help me measure and set my preload tonight. Nows I got:

– Front 33mm sag in the front
– Rear 25mm sag

Not perfect numbers but definitely better than what I was working with previously. I'd like a a bit more sag in the rear but I didn't wanna muck around too much with the rear shock. I'll see how she goes on the ride in to work tomorrow.

My rebound damping is set a half turn softer than previously, which brings it back in line with the stock setting as per my manual and the compression is a 1/4 turn harder than stock.

[nzspokes]

Good numbers and your working it out. :niceone:

Tomorrow that will all be forgotten as you will be focused on your riding. But the bike will be more balanced for it.

Tonight have an early night. Dont forget tape for you glass bits.

I will be getting home then the bike will go straight on the trailer. Then mirrors off, quick wash and tape on.

Tiz gunna be fun.:eek:

[f2dz]

Sweet, yep can't wait. Not thinking about much else at work today. Will see you there tomorrow bright and early.

Sorry for the track talk on the SASS thread y'all. Hopefully be seeing a few more of us at the next one, maybe?

[nzspokes]

You can report back and tell others what you think.

Bikes on the trailer and washed. Just waiting for it to dry and I will hit it with tape on the glass bits.

Anybody that wants to come and watch just turn up. No booze. We will get underway 9 to 9.30ish.

[bawked]

Apparently my bike is ready to go, so might pick it up and come see what these art days are about

[nzspokes]

What a day. Im stuffed. I learnt a bit and didnt crash so all is good.

Fraser was on fire. :niceone:

[f2dz]

Yup awesome day. Knackered as well after that 5:45am start this morning.

Still processing everything but it was a really awesome experience. There was so much to learn and I slowly started getting the hang of it throughout the day and felt like I had made some progression by the end, I dunno if I'd say on fire, but cheers Rob! Was great to be out there with you and Andrew.

Here's a snap from the last session of me chasing Mr. MV off of turn 5.

I'll try to remember to bring a USB of some of the footage Andrew this Tuesday or the next, whenever you're there. Might edit together some of the best bits of the day and I'll post it up sometime.

[aws]

Great weather - awesome day. Can't help feeling I've a long way to go to catch up with the bike though. Very rarely did I give it full noise - even on the straights.

Nice ride home - feeling a bit jaded this evening though.

[nzspokes]

To be fair none of us are riding to the limits of the bikes. Parked next to me was a guy with the same bike as me but his is standard. He is a marshal. And was in group 4 and keeps up fine.

Ive got a long way to go.:confused:Its all about the rider.

But kinda wishing I was doing it again today.:Punk:

[Kartik]

It sounds like you guys had a great time. Weather would have been perfect. :D

[f2dz]

Really handy having the footage to review actually. I think it'll be pretty useful to have as a refresher before the next track day.

You'd love it Kartik, especially with that Kawasaki beast of yours. You should come along to the next one.

Got a shot of my tyre at Mercer. Still a bit of safety strip left which I'm happy about!

[bawked]

If anyone is keen I'm going for a ride out east after lunch, flip me a txt (my number is in my profile)

[nzspokes]

It sounds like you guys had a great time. Weather would have been perfect. :D

It was great. Loved it. You gotta come out next time. Great way to practice turns with out having to worry about cars. Group 1 trainers are great. How fast you go is not important. In fact in my group we were told to slow down to go faster....

I think there were 3 L platers in group 1, 1 that had only been on a bike a few weeks.

[nzspokes]

Still a bit of safety strip left which I'm happy about!

Mike said you were very good. He enjoyed following you. So with being in with me in Group 2 next time you expand on what you get from G1. And will be in faster traffic. I have no doubt you will be faster than me next time.

And most importantly you now are starting to know what your bike can do if it needs to in an emergency on the road and how far you can really lean.

My top speed memory thingy came up with 190kph which puzzled me a bit. On reading the instructions it says it remembers the highest speed you have held for 30seconds. :facepalm:

Have changed the bike back from track mod now, put the mirrors back on, tyres back up to road pressure and gearing back to normal. Also got Sharrys bike out from under the cover and started on getting it back going.

[Kartik]

Yes will definitely aim for the next time. Sounds like a great experience. Will also get some more seat time by then.

[aws]

Tyre after I got home. I was actually quite surprised at the state of it after just the first session, when all we did was follow the instructors around at road legal speeds. Diablo is really rounded over on the edge rather than having a lip like most tyres. I don't think I'll ever get near the edge of the tread.

[f2dz]

If anyone is keen I'm going for a ride out east after lunch, flip me a txt (my number is in my profile)

Would've been, but was a car driving day today to go visiting family. Weather was mint again today for it though.

I'm looking forward to the next track day already. I think I will do another ART day but then after the next I might swap to doing twilight playdays to just save a bit of coin.

Watching my footage I already notice that I think I'm not going through the gears enough. Also be interesting to see if I can speed up a bit now that I am more familiar with the track. The first few sessions my mind was going a mile a minute just trying to remember what to do, let alone remember reference points for everything. Only really started to get into the groove of things in the 4th session, but by the 5th I was pretty knackered and focussing a lot on just not binning it.

I wanna get the theory from group 2 but the traffic in that group is pretty daunting. If only I could join in that group for the theory but then ride in group 1. ;)

[f2dz]

Tyre after I got home. I was actually quite surprised at the state of it after just the first session, when all we did was follow the instructors around at road legal speeds. Diablo is really rounded over on the edge rather than having a lip like most tyres. I don't think I'll ever get near the edge of the tread.

Damn that single sided swingarm is tasty.

You've coverted me with the whole 'coat everything in silicon spray' thing. Got a day off work tomorrow – might go out and gets me some. Also thinking about changing to chain wax but I'll do some more reading on that.

[aws]

To be fair none of us are riding to the limits of the bikes. Parked next to me was a guy with the same bike as me but his is standard. He is a marshal. And was in group 4 and keeps up fine.

Ive got a long way to go.:confused:Its all about the rider.

But kinda wishing I was doing it again today.:Punk:
Yeah occasionally I tapped it out and found out that there was quite a bit more than I thought lurking in reserve. I think the biggest problem was my pants. The lining in my textiles made it like sitting on a block of ice - sliding around all over the seat. Slide down the back under power, then all the way to the front under brakes. Kept forgetting to take the weight of my arms under braking and I think subconsciously that made me not want to go quite as fast because I was just going to have to scrub it all off again. That back straight just goes by so fast and then it's brakes, brakes, brakes. And the front straight -well that's just way too fast for comfort!

[aws]

It was great. Loved it. You gotta come out next time. Great way to practice turns with out having to worry about cars. Group 1 trainers are great. How fast you go is not important. In fact in my group we were told to slow down to go faster....

I think there were 3 L platers in group 1, 1 that had only been on a bike a few weeks.
Some of those learners were pretty quick tho. I don't know how long Tania the vtr rider has been at it - she didn't exude confidence early in the day, but I could barely keep in touch thru the corners later on. I'm such a wuss in the corners, I think everyone in the group could have beaten me if it weren't for the straights and a fast bike.

[nzspokes]

Yeah occasionally I tapped it out and found out that there was quite a bit more than I thought lurking in reserve. I think the biggest problem was my pants. The lining in my textiles made it like sitting on a block of ice - sliding around all over the seat. Slide down the back under power, then all the way to the front under brakes. Kept forgetting to take the weight of my arms under braking and I think subconsciously that made me not want to go quite as fast because I was just going to have to scrub it all off again. That back straight just goes by so fast and then it's brakes, brakes, brakes. And the front straight -well that's just way too fast for comfort!

Funny thing was it was suggested to us to put silicone on our seats! So we can move easier.

What you weren't doing was supporting your lower body with you knees. If you grip the tanks with your knees all the weight comes of the bars and you throw less weight forward. If you dont have it tank grip helps.

The straight from turn 5 I dont brake a lot more roll off the throttle and use a little. Try to be smooth with it. In saying that I had one point where I had to much speed and had my boot on the deck and a reasonable amount of front brake on. I was amazed it held so from then on I went a bit quicker into it.

[nzspokes]

Yup awesome day. Knackered as well after that 5:45am start this morning.

Still processing everything but it was a really awesome experience. There was so much to learn and I slowly started getting the hang of it throughout the day and felt like I had made some progression by the end, I dunno if I'd say on fire, but cheers Rob! Was great to be out there with you and Andrew.

Here's a snap from the last session of me chasing Mr. MV off of turn 5.

I'll try to remember to bring a USB of some of the footage Andrew this Tuesday or the next, whenever you're there. Might edit together some of the best bits of the day and I'll post it up sometime.

One thing I will say from your photo is your in to a high of a gear. Let it rev!

[nzspokes]

Some of those learners were pretty quick tho. I don't know how long Tania the vtr rider has been at it - she didn't exude confidence early in the day, but I could barely keep in touch thru the corners later on. I'm such a wuss in the corners, I think everyone in the group could have beaten me if it weren't for the straights and a fast bike.

Well thats it, my first time there when i was on my 900 Hornet a 250 Hornet went outside me round turn 6 and I didnt see him again. Tiz not the bike, its the rider.

[f2dz]

One thing I will say from your photo is your in to a high of a gear. Let it rev!

I only noticed I was doing that later in the day. Half of the reason is because my throttle gets really touchy in lower gears, and I even noticed it a lot out today when I went riding on my day off.

I'll explain what I mean tomorrow at the ride. George from MD told me that it was previously happening because my chain needed changing, then it kept happening and he said it was because it was loose after my tyre change. A week after the service it still happens though..

[nzspokes]

Wonder if its got a badly done TRE mod?

[aws]

Funny thing was it was suggested to us to put silicone on our seats! So we can move easier.

What you weren't doing was supporting your lower body with you knees. If you grip the tanks with your knees all the weight comes of the bars and you throw less weight forward. If you dont have it tank grip helps.

The straight from turn 5 I dont brake a lot more roll off the throttle and use a little. Try to be smooth with it. In saying that I had one point where I had to much speed and had my boot on the deck and a reasonable amount of front brake on. I was amazed it held so from then on I went a bit quicker into it.
Turns out it's actually the textiles themselves. They just slide around on my seat. It's a bit disconcerting. MV actually sell a grippier seat for serious racers. I actually found it easier to hang off a bit as it stopped me sliding around as much.

I didn't have to much difficulty when I remembered to grip the tank. I just kept forgetting.

[nzspokes]

Turns out it's actually the textiles themselves. They just slide around on my seat. It's a bit disconcerting. MV actually sell a grippier seat for serious racers. I actually found it easier to hang off a bit as it stopped me sliding around as much.

I didn't have to much difficulty when I remembered to grip the tank. I just kept forgetting.

Im going to try the silicone trick and raise my pegs.

Photos from JDAS turning up on facebook right now....

Ive got a couple of nice ones.

[Sushi Bandit]

If anyone is keen I'm going for a ride out east after lunch, flip me a txt (my number is in my profile)

I would've been keen. I'm in East Auckland too.

[f2dz]

Wonder if its got a badly done TRE mod?

Had no idea what that was but after a quick Google that does seem to be the problem I have.

Will look into it.

Weather looks good so I'll be there tonight. I'll see if I have time to get some of that video onto a USB for you Andrew but I might not have one big enough.

Each file is pretty chunky in its raw format, although I'm guessing you only want footage of the sessions where I was following you..?

[nzspokes]

This just poped up on FB

[nzspokes]

Who is coming tonight?

[f2dz]

Got a link to that page?

[nzspokes]

Got a link to that page?

A mate took that one but look for JDAS photos on FB.

[f2dz]

Good action shots there.

I guess they must still be processing the rest.

I'll be there tonight. No leathers this time.

[Kartik]

I'll also be there tonight. Looking forward to hear all about the ART day. :)

[Sushi Bandit]

Gidday Guys. I'm new to the forums and recently I have upgraded to my first big bike. What are these rides like? Would you recommend I attend?

[nzspokes]

We specialize in returning and new riders. First post in the thread shows what we do. Pop along and see what you think.

[Sushi Bandit]

Cheers, Ill try to come along.

[Ribit]

This just poped up on FB

Im expecting royalties! hehe

What bikes ya looking for from the day? ill have a look through and see if ive immortalized them in pixels for ya

[nzspokes]

Black gixxer 750 and the above MV from G1. Ta

[f2dz]

Black GSXR is me, rider with the helmet as per my display pic. :)

Also after photos of an orange KTM Superduke 990 of a workmate.

ta!

[Sis]

I will be there tonight. Just getting the gear on.

[bawked]

Will be there too, need more skills after my crash on the weekend haha

[f2dz]

Will be there too, need more skills after my crash on the weekend haha


Youch. Just transferring some files off my camera then heading over..

[aws]

Won't be able to make it tonight I'm afraid - have a meeting.

Had to take the truck today to drop it in for a service :( So now I'm suffering a fair bit from withdrawal. Shame I can't alleviate it with a ride tonight.


f2dz: maybe I could drop a flash drive over sometime - or you could call by here - and we can copy those files. I'm keen to see what you got.

[aws]

This just poped up on FB

That's a flash looking bike! :niceone: Guy's taking a bit of a risk with the helmet up though...:no:

[Sis]

That's a flash looking bike! :niceone: Guy's taking a bit of a risk with the helmet up though...:no:

Was there a guy on it??? Didn't notice . Too busy ooogling the ferrari -ooops I mean bike.

[Sis]

I hope you all enjoyed yourselves tonight. Great to meet some new bikers.

Hope you all come back now, you hear

and bring your ideas for car park exercises etc.

[nzspokes]

Some nice pics up.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.742750152466564.1073742365.435902873151295&type=3

[f2dz]

Yea, just saw em all. Not too shabby! Good photos.

Took a screen grab from my camera - still gotta work out the best settings for its low light mode. Good turnout tonight and really nice to ride those roads again in the daylight.

Flick me a txt with your address Andrew and I can drop it in your letterbox. Have em copied on to a USB already.

[Ribit]

Good to meet you guys too.
Havent got too many extra pics from the art day but heres a few ya might like
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[f2dz]

Nice photo of the two GSXRs there – thanks Robert/Ribit!

So the photos on JDAS Photos are yours too?

[Ribit]

Nice photo of the two GSXRs there – thanks Robert/Ribit!

So the photos on JDAS Photos are yours too?

Your welcome. I wish i could take photos as good as JDAS. JDAS are professionals that were at the event. When i got given a business card by the chick i was talking to, i figured they'd be charging for their photos (like the pictures taken at theme parks). But ya can share them off facebook. Perhaps if ya want a high def photo off them they'd charge ya?

Kiri (ya met her last night too) took most of the photos ive shared here. Ive just cropped them to bring out the subject.

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[bawked]

Well I passed my restricted test, I'm surprised how incredibly easy it was

Think I'll treat myself and go to the next art day ;)

[nzspokes]

Nice. Good work.

[f2dz]

Your welcome. I wish i could take photos as good as JDAS. JDAS are professionals that were at the event. When i got given a business card by the chick i was talking to, i figured they'd be charging for their photos (like the pictures taken at theme parks). But ya can share them off facebook. Perhaps if ya want a high def photo off them they'd charge ya?

Kiri (ya met her last night too) took most of the photos ive shared here. Ive just cropped them to bring out the subject.

Is Kiri the Gladius rider? She was in group 1 riding wasn't she?


Well I passed my restricted test, I'm surprised how incredibly easy it was

Think I'll treat myself and go to the next art day ;)

Nice one. Did you do the CBTA or just the test? My test was pretty easy when I did it too.

[bawked]

I just did the test as my time was up. I did a ride forever course with a cbta tester a few months, it seemed like he just wanted get people repeating the course. He basically said that he wouldn't pass me unless I did another ride forever course.

[Ribit]

Is Kiri the Gladius rider? She was in group 1 riding wasn't she?

Yup and there on tues night on same bike but with headlight and indicators restored.

[Grandad]

Anyone own one. Looking at one for my pillion. Got the bug and wants to join in the fun.
The GSX650F is not LAMS and is a wee bit heavy for her.

[nzspokes]

Anyone own one. Looking at one for my pillion. Got the bug and wants to join in the fun.
The GSX650F is not LAMS and is a wee bit heavy for her.

Ive ridden one, I think its the pick of the 250 Cruisers. I got a GV250 and VL 250 as loan bikes. GV sucked. VL was a fun bike.

This is the link to Riderskills by the way. http://www.riderskills.co.nz/

[Grandad]

:facepalm:
Ive ridden one, I think its the pick of the 250 Cruisers. I got a GV250 and VL 250 as loan bikes. GV sucked. VL was a fun bike.

This is the link to Riderskills by the way. http://www.riderskills.co.nz/

Great. I will go do some reading on their page.

[xXGIBBOXx]

Anyone own one. Looking at one for my pillion. Got the bug and wants to join in the fun.
The GSX650F is not LAMS and is a wee bit heavy for her.

What about a LS 650 ? Lams light single pumper round the same money as a 250 ? My Chick mate has one and lives it . She is little and has a bung shoulder and can still ride it

[f2dz]

I just did the test as my time was up. I did a ride forever course with a cbta tester a few months, it seemed like he just wanted get people repeating the course. He basically said that he wouldn't pass me unless I did another ride forever course.

Huh? So you did the test but then he failed you to get you to do it again?


Yup and there on tues night on same bike but with headlight and indicators restored.

Yep, I remember. Nice bikes those Gladiuses.

[Grandad]

What about a LS 650 ? Lams light single pumper round the same money as a 250 ? My Chick mate has one and lives it . She is little and has a bung shoulder and can still ride it

Mmmm nice looker. Have to find one for sale and give it a squeeze. Thanks

[bawked]

Huh? So you did the test but then he failed you to get you to do it again?

Haha nah didnt do the cbta, just decided to wait the extra couple of months and do the normal test. The guy who took my rideforever course put me off doing the cbta.

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[nzspokes]

Anyone doing anything over labour weekend?

Might do Northern loop. Might go for a trail ride. Might do a track day. Might do nothing.

As you can see Im undecided.

[f2dz]

Might do Northern loop. Might go for a trail ride. Might do a track day. Might do nothing.

As you can see Im undecided.

I'll be keen to join if you're doing some road riding that weekend.

I'll come along on a track day if it's your shout. ;)

[Sushi Bandit]

Mmmm nice looker. Have to find one for sale and give it a squeeze. Thanks

Stepdad bought an LS650/S40 to get his licence. Ive ridden it a few times. Nice low end power, basically unstallable, low seat height and it will do 110kph no worries and will pick up to 130 if required (revving pretty hard). Only issue is it is a little cramped for a taller rider. The thing has a few vibrations in the footpegs at higher speeds but its a single, you cant expect anything different. The thing is bulletproof.

[Sis]

Might do Northern loop. Might go for a trail ride. Might do a track day. Might do nothing.

As you can see Im undecided.

I disagree. You have basically decided to get out on 2 wheels.:woohoo:

[Grandad]

I disagree. You have basically decided to get out on 2 wheels.:woohoo:

And if the weather is favourable why shouldn't we. Heaps of cafe's to roadtest. Mokau does great whitebait fritters I here. Then there is cinnamin toast at Dawson falls on Egmont.

[nzspokes]

I'll be keen to join if you're doing some road riding that weekend.

I'll come along on a track day if it's your shout. ;)

Im a bit up in the air about next weekend so will let you know.

My gear is off getting mods and i dont know if i will get it back in time for that track day.

[Sis]

And if the weather is favourable why shouldn't we. Heaps of cafe's to roadtest. Mokau does great whitebait fritters I here. Then there is cinnamin toast at Dawson falls on Egmont.

Whitebait will be fresh. Heaps of people out whitebaiting when I went through Marokopa the other weekend.

[Sis]

Heads up folks.
Next Tuesday, I have a funeral to go to.
Will try to make it back in time for SASS

I will keep Grandad and nzspokes up to date with txts on the day.

Otherwise it is carry on without me.

[f2dz]

Probably won't be there for SASS on Tuesday but if anyone is heading out this Labour weekend let me know. I'd be keen for a ride on Sunday or Monday.

Otherwise I might head along to a group ride I saw on the Meetups app on Sunday.

[nzspokes]

Otherwise I might head along to a group ride I saw on the Meetups app on Sunday.

Is that one where you throw your keys in a bowl?:killingme

[f2dz]

Uhh, not that I know of.

I only recently installed it on my phone. I'm pretty sure you're in one of the groups I'm in too, so you'd know more about it..!

[nzspokes]

Uhh, not that I know of.

I only recently installed it on my phone. I'm pretty sure you're in one of the groups I'm in too, so you'd know more about it..!

Seem to be a good bunch in there. Been on a couple of rides with them. 2 of the guys, Ribit and Mongolan Fridge that came to Sass last week.

[f2dz]

Yea I saw those doods. I think Mongolian is going on the Sunday ride. Not so sure about Ribit.

Well, that's what I'll be doing unless someone wants to go riding somewhere else. I'm not really that bothered about riding that route on Sunday.

[nzspokes]

Yea I saw those doods. I think Mongolian is going on the Sunday ride. Not so sure about Ribit.

Well, that's what I'll be doing unless someone wants to go riding somewhere else. I'm not really that bothered about riding that route on Sunday.

Have just heard of a Northern Loop ride on Sunday which I may do. Will be 50 to 600ks. Let you know later in the week. Safe to say this is not a learner friendly ride.

[f2dz]

Have just heard of a Northern Loop ride on Sunday which I may do. Will be 50 to 600ks. Let you know later in the week. Safe to say this is not a learner friendly ride.

Think I'll pass, unless it's on the shorter end of that range. I don't really wanna be out on the roads too much on the holiday weekend, especially northern ones. Overly cautious maybe, but meh.

[nzspokes]

Wont be much traffic as the middle day. And we try to travel back roads. We will be doing twin bridges which is an epic road.

[Ribit]

Is that one where you throw your keys in a bowl?:killingme



Uhh, not that I know of

Woosh over head.....


I know 2 groups heading twin bridges way this weekend. 1 on sat the other sun. and then there's Meetups doing waipu on sunday. Was thinking if doin the waipu run to branch off from the highway ride and go -dairy flat-sh16-woodcocks-sh1-kaiwaka-mangawhai-waipu

Decisions decisions....:no:

[Tigadee]

:wings: Hey aSASSins!

Will be there tomorrow evening! Bike's had rear brake switch and rear tyre replaced, new WOF and rego AND finally got a wash and polish! She's looking good to go out for a blast! :Punk:

Slowly settling into the new home too, may take a while to get it looking more like a home and less like a warehouse! LOL

[f2dz]

Woosh over head.....


I know 2 groups heading twin bridges way this weekend. 1 on sat the other sun. and then there's Meetups doing waipu on sunday. Was thinking if doin the waipu run to branch off from the highway ride and go -dairy flat-sh16-woodcocks-sh1-kaiwaka-mangawhai-waipu

Decisions decisions....:no:

Hey, I've only got 4 and a bit hours sleep in me so that's my excuse.

Sounds like a good route to me, I'd be keen.

[Sushi Bandit]

I've sorted my front brake issues so I will also be there tomorrow.

[bawked]

May or may not be there tomorrow night, If the weather is looking good on Saturday I might have to saddle up and go for a decent ride

[Maakz]

Unsure if I will make it tomorrow, will try but works amping up again.:wacko:
Know how ya feel with the move and the temporary warehouse feel...you'll be settled soon enough and for the next month you'll be sorting stuff out. Congrats on the new house mate.

[Grandad]

Wont be much traffic as the middle day. And we try to travel back roads. We will be doing twin bridges which is an epic road.
Where would that be. You say 50 to 600 kms that is a huge range. Did you mean 500-600?

[nzspokes]

Where would that be. You say 50 to 600 kms that is a huge range. Did you mean 500-600?

LOL, yes 500 to 600ks. Its northern loop so from Westgate to Dargaville, then on to Opononi, back through Kaikohe down twin bridges back home. Solid ride. But as I said, not L plater friendly.

[nzspokes]

Where would that be. You say 50 to 600 kms that is a huge range. Did you mean 500-600?

Got some footage from the camera yet or just lots of photos?

[Tigadee]

Know how ya feel with the move and the temporary warehouse feel...you'll be settled soon enough and for the next month you'll be sorting stuff out. Congrats on the new house mate.

Thanks, girly!

Slowly but surely... if it works for the scooter boys, it will work in this case! LOL

[Tigadee]

any recommendations for a camera (video type) which has good night use.

Only ones which are good for video recording at night is a DSLR, and then you'd need the casing, the mount, stabilisation kit or a dampener (even if the lens has stablisation although soem software is pretty good at stabilising in post-production, i.e. during editing), etc.

Serious dough for serious kit... :eek:

[f2dz]

LOL, yes 500 to 600ks. Its northern loop so from Westgate to Dargaville, then on to Opononi, back through Kaikohe down twin bridges back home. Solid ride. But as I said, not L plater friendly.

Did this loop a month or so ago. Those straight roads to Dargaville turning off before Brynderwyn are a drag but apart from that it's an awesome ride.

Think I'm gonna default to one of these Meetups rides, or go for a jaunt down to the Coromandel perhaps..

Won't be there tonight sorry – gotta catch up with a mate. Have a good ride peeps.

[Kartik]

I should be there tonight guys. Looking forward to a nice ride.

[Tigadee]

Sorry mates, won't be there this evening. Wife had a seizure so I'd better keep an eye on her... :confused:

May drop by the pub later when my daughter gets back from her kung fu class.

[nzspokes]

That's more important. See you at pub if you can make it.

[Kartik]

Oh that's not good. Hope she starts feeling better soon. Yeah mate, if you can make it, might see you at the pub. Take care.

[Tigadee]

Thanks. She's recovered but I'd better keep an eye on her till the eldest daughter comes home.

[Grandad]

Great ride tonight thanks Sis know you must be tired after the days ride. Good pace on just enough to stretch me out at times and push the limit just a little but not too fast so I got way out of control/comfort zone. Thanks guys. Have a safe riding weekend. Im of to the carpark.

[Sushi Bandit]

Cheers for the ride last night guys. It was good meeting you all.

[Kartik]

Yes, it was a great ride last night. Thanks guys. See you all next week.

[Maakz]

Sounds like I missed a great ride, ah well, next time. Tig-hope ur Lady Wife is OK? Let us know if there is anything we can do. Have a fabulous weekend of RnR people. See yáll next week all willing.

[Tigadee]

Tig-hope ur Lady Wife is OK? Let us know if there is anything we can do.

Thanks, Maakz. It's a fairly normal thing (docs still just can't quite get it under control)... Was unusual to have had two in a day though.

Probably got tired out and weakened by the big move - Gotta get some of 'dem Chinese herbal stuff in her!

Yeah, looks like I missed yet another great ride... Ah well, next week, hopefully.

[Sis]

Word going around is that the cops are planning a blitz on bikes in Nov. Everything from regos and WOFs to speed. They often pick on bikes at the beginning of summer as some riders have had their bike regos on hold, and get the bike out before the wallet.

[Tigadee]

Word going around is that the cops are planning a blitz on bikes in Nov. Everything from regos and WOFs to speed. They often pick on bikes at the beginning of summer as some riders have had their bike regos on hold, and get the bike out before the wallet.

Whew! :eek: I'm glad I got mine sorted then! Thanks for the heads-up...

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[bawked]

Anyone going out for a ride today? It's my only gf free day of the weekend, so gotta make the most of it

[Sis]

Sorry, but I have a grandson's birthday party to attend. Otherwise I would be tempted.

[nzspokes]

Weve just been for a ride....

Sharry sat on the back for a jaunt up to Shelly beach.

[bawked]

Wow, what a beaut of a day for riding. Good to see so many bikes out.

Did maraetai, kawakawa, orere point and some other little bits and pieces. Met a couple of other kawa riders, who ill no doubt go on some future rides with.

And traffic wasn't even that bad !

[Grandad]

Wow, what a beaut of a day for riding. Good to see so many bikes out.

Did maraetai, kawakawa, orere point and some other little bits and pieces. Met a couple of other kawa riders, who ill no doubt go on some future rides with.

And traffic wasn't even that bad !

Sure was a beauty for riding. Pillion and I rode down to Nikau Cave cafe, (off SH22, ) cracker ride, minimal traffic after clearing that bottleneck on the southern this arvo. Sis NZSpokes I remembered that look for the exit eyes up and made crooked things straight. Thanks. Had a great pizza there and then a liesurely ride back. Kept thinking about what I was told about riding packed out with carbs. Made it fine.

[aws]

Certainly was a pearler today. Talked my bro into coming for a ride with me out around Maraetai since I still have 2 bikes in the garage. He hadn't ridden for probably 20 years, but seemed to get the hang of the Fazer OK. What a great day!

[nzspokes]

600+ks yesterday. Im a bit tired today. Just goes to show im not ride fit.

[Grandad]

600+ks yesterday. Im a bit tired today. Just goes to show im not ride fit.
How did that air cushion go over that distance?

[nzspokes]

How did that air cushion go over that distance?

I didnt use it. Just my sheepy with a bit of foam under it. Got quite tired towards the end and started blowing corners so backed off.

[Grandad]

I didnt use it. Just my sheepy with a bit of foam under it. Got quite tired towards the end and started blowing corners so backed off.
Hmmm. Good you recognize the early signs. Yet again another weekend where bikers are part of the injury list. 2 in westland thankfully not fatal.

[aws]

Forgot to drop something off in Puke on my way back from the Barry Sheene Classic yesterday. Darn it! Meant I had to go out for a ride today. Went up Burtt Rd, then back down Runciman Rd. Then tried a new route out thru Hunua/Clevedon. Great ride. Would be good to try it out one summer Tuesday evening.

[Sis]

Forgot to drop something off in Puke on my way back from the Barry Sheene Classic yesterday. Darn it! Meant I had to go out for a ride today. Went up Burtt Rd, then back down Runciman Rd. Then tried a new route out thru Hunua/Clevedon. Great ride. Would be good to try it out one summer Tuesday evening.

Cool, You can show us the way.

As for tonight, it looks like it is going to be practising in the rain. Good chance to try wet riding.

[bawked]

probably wont be there tonight, but next week should be on my second bike :laugh:

[f2dz]

probably wont be there tonight, but next week should be on my second bike :laugh:

Second bike??

I went for a quick ride out to Maraetai on Sunday afternoon. Thought I had passed Sis and Eldog parked up there so went back to double check only to find that it wasn't. That's what I have to do now after the last time where you guys made me feel guilty about accidentally snobbin ya!

I won't be there if this weather continues on. My textile gear isn't waterproof and if I get soaked riding home then I don't really fancy riding around with my arse in a puddle on my seat.

aws, I've lent out all of my USB sticks at the mo but I haven't forgotten about dropping that footage off to you. Hopefully later this week I'll get some of them back.

[Ribit]

Ya shouldve come on the meetups ride on sun. We had a blast

[nzspokes]

Second bike??

I went for a quick ride out to Maraetai on Sunday afternoon. Thought I had passed Sis and Eldog parked up there so went back to double check only to find that it wasn't. That's what I have to do now after the last time where you guys made me feel guilty about accidentally snobbin ya!

I won't be there if this weather continues on. My textile gear isn't waterproof and if I get soaked riding home then I don't really fancy riding around with my arse in a puddle on my seat.

aws, I've lent out all of my USB sticks at the mo but I haven't forgotten about dropping that footage off to you. Hopefully later this week I'll get some of them back.

Swap into your leathers. The girls will love it....

[Kartik]

Hi guys, I won't be able to make it tonight. Have to stay at work till late. :(

Hope to see you all next week.

[Sis]

Second bike??


I won't be there if this weather continues on. My textile gear isn't waterproof and if I get soaked riding home then I don't really fancy riding around with my arse in a puddle on my seat.



Back in the beginning of my riding, when I rode and it was raining, you got wet!
There was no gear available to keep the weather out. One had to suffer that wet feeling

You young whipper snappers have no idea :bleh:
Getting bloody soft:violin:

[f2dz]

Ya shouldve come on the meetups ride on sun. We had a blast

I was planning to but I got held up with something else on Saturday night so that meant I wasn't able to make Sunday morning. I'll be trying to come to the next one.


Swap into your leathers. The girls will love it....

My leathers aren't waterproof either! And after last time I'd prefer it if Peter doesn't waste my chocolate hearts in my coffee by spilling them all over the table..

[nzspokes]

I was planning to but I got held up with something else on Saturday night so that meant I wasn't able to make Sunday morning. I'll be trying to come to the next one.



What was her name?

[f2dz]

Back in the beginning of my riding, when I rode and it was raining, you got wet!
There was no gear available to keep the weather out. One had to suffer that wet feeling

You young whipper snappers have no idea :bleh:
Getting bloody soft:violin:

I'll admit I'm soft but unless you took Sergio to work and back today that makes you soft too. :yes:


What was her name?

I don't remember. ;)

[Sis]

I'll admit I'm soft but unless you took Sergio to work and back today that makes you soft too. :yes:


Actually I had to take a cage today because it was pick up supplies for Friday work drinks. I think they might have killed me and Sergio otherwise. Gotta keep work mates happy.

[Maakz]

Meh, trenchcoat, over trou and dubbed boots...its a given i'll get wet but meh...not worried. Rode to work in the rain and will ride back in the rain...but maybe late to the rendezvous point. If um not there when yous want to leave, then by all means carry on...magz

[bawked]

Second bike??

yep, added another 4cyl 250cc to the stable haha

Picked up a mc22 to ride while I do some work on my zxr, wanted something to ride in case the work takes longer than expected. I originally wanted a mc22, so I found one that seemed in good nick and bought it. Was going to buy a zx6r... but decided not to risk it.

The riding position on the cbr seems much less aggressive than the zxr, so might mean it'll be more comfortable on the longer rides which is a bonus. Once I have the zxr all fixed up i'll take them both to the track and do some back to back tests for fun.... erm I mean "science" :rolleyes:

[nzspokes]

I got onto the motorway then got drenched. Pretty heavy rain.

Good thing for good gear.:clap:

[Grandad]

I was planning to but I got held up with something else on Saturday night so that meant I wasn't able to make Sunday morning. I'll be trying to come to the next one.



My leathers aren't waterproof either! And after last time I'd prefer it if Peter doesn't waste my chocolate hearts in my coffee by spilling them all over the table..

That's harsh. Her name was Flo I think. Anyway missed a good learning ride this evening wet road some rain but not a lot. Good practice finding traction as Rob calls it. Went ok apart from a clump of mud in Regis lane. See you next week.

[Tigadee]

The only thing now about riding in the rain I dsilike is drying out my gear after, otherwise I'm not nervous about riding on wet roads or in the rain any more. I actually prefer to be able to ride when it rains during work days because of the horrible traffic that usually follows the rain...

Sorry I wasn't there last night, daughter had something on and I had to play chauffuer...

[Sushi Bandit]

I wasn't there because I'm useless and thought it was Monday. Went for a good ride up to Wellsford, across to Leigh and then home on Saturday though. First time on gravel on the bandit. And I got to be immature with my big exhaust in the tunnel on the toll road :)

[f2dz]

That's harsh. Her name was Flo I think. Anyway missed a good learning ride this evening wet road some rain but not a lot. Good practice finding traction as Rob calls it. Went ok apart from a clump of mud in Regis lane. See you next week.

I went to the gym instead last night and noticed that it didn't rain at all. Was a bit gutted that I called that wrong, but I got drenched this morning. Karma.

Anyone out and about this weekend? Could be keen for a ride.

[bawked]

Just rode up from hamilton on the cbr.... its windy as hell, and the low beam on that thing is terrible. Other than that, seems like a pretty decent bike :Punk:

I would be keen on a ride sunday arvo if the weather is good, need to test out the new toy in some corners ;)

http://i.imgur.com/guXabFM.jpg

[Maakz]

That cutting out in Pirongia scenario wasn't a Halloween tall story...I reckon the smart security system signal from the key fob was compromised by radio and cell phone interference leading to temp machine shutdown and cut off. Once pushed out of interference range it was all hunky dory and had the electrics and everything else checked over once home. Remember, it was along the side of the road reserve...right where cabling and service lines would have been installed and there are in ground signal pads at either extent of town and new tower runs put in not too far away. I'd forgotten about that.

[Grandad]

That cutting out in Pirongia scenario wasn't a Halloween tall story...I reckon the smart security system signal from the key fob was compromised by radio and cell phone interference leading to temp machine shutdown and cut off. Once pushed out of interference range it was all hunky dory and had the electrics and everything else checked over once home. Remember, it was along the side of the road reserve...right where cabling and service lines would have been installed and there are in ground signal pads at either extent of town and new tower runs put in not too far away. I'd forgotten about that.

I liked the first version of reasoning. Sounded much more mysterious and possible. Oh well i guess if you can replicate it it would solve the puzzle.

[f2dz]

I would be keen on a ride sunday arvo if the weather is good, need to test out the new toy in some corners ;)

I might be keen but depends how my Sunday morning goes, might be busy. I'll flick ya a txt if not.


Word going around is that the cops are planning a blitz on bikes in Nov. Everything from regos and WOFs to speed. They often pick on bikes at the beginning of summer as some riders have had their bike regos on hold, and get the bike out before the wallet.

Saw a cop on the Wellesley St/Port offramp today pinging bikes. Luckily he had pulled another over already so I wasn't picked up. Too close.

[Sis]

I might be keen but depends how my Sunday morning goes, might be busy. I'll flick ya a txt if not.



Saw a cop on the Wellesley St/Port offramp today pinging bikes. Luckily he had pulled another over already so I wasn't picked up. Too close.

All in the attitude, as I have proven. You need to ask at SASS. I wasn't even asked for my license. Talked about Harleys as opposed to CBRs.
Mind you , it could have been the girl card. Or the grey hair card. Whatever. It worked.

[xXGIBBOXx]

All in the attitude, as I have proven. You need to ask at SASS. I wasn't even asked for my license. Talked about Harleys as opposed to CBRs.
Mind you , it could have been the girl card. Or the grey hair card. Whatever. It worked.

Hard out it's all in the attitude, the 400 was cop bait loud and I was all ways ringing it's nuts off . Got lots of finger pointing but no tickets on bike .helmet off and not being a dick goes a long way .
hope all is well peeps ! Little man is keeping us busy and full of smiles

[Theantidote]

Just got a few sqirts of paint on to freshen up the tank...now i feel the need for a late nite ride...anyone keen...thinkin k road for coffee...leavin drury bout 930pmish...

[nzspokes]

Looks great!

Past my bed time......

[Maakz]

Damn!!! Wished I'd seen it sooner, was up for a night ride. Never mind, next one.

[bawked]

Back in Auckland now so taking the CBR out for a test run, hopefully this rain holds out.

edit: Well it held out, and wow!! The cbr is a beast, blows my zxr away in terms of power and ride-ability I think.

[f2dz]

All in the attitude, as I have proven. You need to ask at SASS. I wasn't even asked for my license. Talked about Harleys as opposed to CBRs.
Mind you , it could have been the girl card. Or the grey hair card. Whatever. It worked.

I'll definitely ask about that one tomorrow..


Back in Auckland now so taking the CBR out for a test run, hopefully this rain holds out.

edit: Well it held out, and wow!! The cbr is a beast, blows my zxr away in terms of power and ride-ability I think.

Hope you're not out and about riding it today! Bringing it tomorrow then?

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[Tigadee]

Afraid I won't be there tomorrow night.

Wanted to but now work has decided that they want to move back into the new offices Wednesday (instead of the planned Friday), which means prep work for the network for me tomorrow evening...:facepalm:


Just got a few sqirts of paint on to freshen up the tank.

Very nice!

[bawked]

Hope you're not out and about riding it today! Bringing it tomorrow then?

Na, had to drive to pokeno for work. I'll be there tomorrow for sure, doing work on the zxr tonight.... hopefully sort this thing out.

[Theantidote]

Damn!!! Wished I'd seen it sooner, was up for a night ride. Never mind, next one.

We'll have to do it soon coz a few ova niters coming up...maybe friday or saturday nite...c wot the weathers doing...was perfect conditions the other nite....even the traffic was well behaved....i'll txt you later in da week....peace out n ride safe

[Theantidote]

We'll have to do it soon coz a few ova niters coming up...maybe friday or saturday nite...c wot the weathers doing...was perfect conditions the other nite....even the traffic was well behaved....i'll txt you later in da week....peace out n ride safe

Just chekd forecast....friday looks clear....plus full moon....what more could we need....coffee in kroad n some mitey fine riding....with a few giggles chukked in

[xXGIBBOXx]

Just chekd forecast....friday looks clear....plus full moon....what more could we need....coffee in kroad n some mitey fine riding....with a few giggles chukked in

I'm in Ace , let us know the the details yeah ?

[Sis]

I will be at SASS tomorrow. Another Ulysses mate coming along too.

[Theantidote]

I'm in Ace , let us know the the details yeah ?

We can come thru your area on the way....if i leave home at 8ish will that work for those interested????....maybe to keep this all assasin related pm me or txt me....verona does good joe and is a sweet wee spot...

[f2dz]

I'll be there.

[Sushi Bandit]

Looks like we are heading towards a good turnout. I should be there tonight.

[Maakz]

Um in for the coffey run Fri...:yes: stuck at work til half 6 tonight but will aim for the rendezvous point.:scooter: Might be a little late though. Raining cats n dogs in town at the mo and wouldn't ya know it, ditched the wets this morning to lighten the load. Murphys. G'damnit. :confused:

[nzspokes]

Im at the airport and its sunny. It will pass.

[Grandad]

Im at the airport and its sunny. It will pass.

No me tonight guys. Ride safe.

[nzspokes]

I can see the rain and its moving. I will stick this side for a bit.

[nzspokes]

Rain radar agrees. I can see the back of it. About to clear.

[Sushi Bandit]

Can't make it. Hopefully next week.

[Theantidote]

Cool ms maakz...will txt u thursday nite to sort rendezvous point....mr gibbo let me know what will suit u for meeting point....also drury performance are doing a regular friday niter, leaving their place at 6pm, aimed at new riders who want to meet other riders in the area, they'll head out toward patumahoe for pizza and drinking liquid stuff....spread the news if u wish....peace out and ride safe all

[f2dz]

Great ride last night, was a nice change to have the pace upped a bit.

Thanks again for the coffee, Tig.

I'm jetting overseas for a much needed holiday next Wednesday so not sure if I'll be there next week, but I'll probably be out and about on Saturday for a ride if anyone would like to join. Let me know.


Cool ms maakz...will txt u thursday nite to sort rendezvous point....mr gibbo let me know what will suit u for meeting point....also drury performance are doing a regular friday niter, leaving their place at 6pm, aimed at new riders who want to meet other riders in the area, they'll head out toward patumahoe for pizza and drinking liquid stuff....spread the news if u wish....peace out and ride safe all

I would be keen but I don't usually leave work in the city early enough to make that. :(

[f2dz]

Next ART day is Sunday 11 January for those interested. Think I might try to get along to it, as well as a couple track days to see the year out.

[bawked]

Next ART day is Sunday 11 January for those interested. Think I might try to get along to it, as well as a couple track days to see the year out.

I'm definitely keen on an art day, also have to see if they are spaces left for the upcoming Honda trackday

[f2dz]

Might be good to wait until the ART day if you can. I did one first and I'm glad I did.

I don't think I'd be that comfortable going to a playday straight away without any kind of guidance around the track. That might just be me though.

Although a buddy of mine did the opposite and did playdays first, although that wasn't without incident. He had plenty of footage on his GoPro of him taking corners wrong and ending up off the track or stepping his back tyre out on certain corners.

[Kartik]

I'll definitely try to come for this one. Should have enough time to sort out some decent gear by then.

[bawked]

I doubt i'll be there tomorrow, looks like it's meant to rain and I have a ton of thinks to sort out.

[f2dz]

Won't be there tonight. Jetting off to Niue in the morning for a week so I'll see you all in a fortnight or so.

Ride safe!

[nzspokes]

Honda track day on Saturday still has places in the novice group. And it seems to be a training day with arron slight. Other makes of bikes are allowed.

[Tigadee]

Me Hornet aka Black Beauty is stuck in Mt Roskill with a dead battery and worn sparks which have only just been replaced.

I can only pick it up tonight so I doubt I'd make it in time to SASS, unfortunately.

[Sis]

I will be there. Dirty bike and all. Haven't had a chance to clean it.

[nzspokes]

You like a dirty boy?

[nzspokes]

Sorry I won't be there. Bit to tired.