South Auckland Street Skills

[Tigadee]

Great to see everyone again and glad you did manage to make it after all, Maakz.

Nice ride, dark but fun.

Had a wee slip on one of the corners on some sand but the bike gripped after and continued round the corner. Only time I'll ever get to do some drifting! LOL

Hey SPOKES, I didn't get to ask you but where did you get those tank side grip pads? I'd like something like that for me bike...

[f2dz]

I haven't shown up for a few weeks but will definitely try to make it tomorrow.

I've got my OE flights booked for a couple months away so don't have long before having to bid farewall to my ol' Gixx.

What's the plan with this now? Do we meet at Manukau first to do drills or still at the Z?

[nzspokes]

Great to see everyone again and glad you did manage to make it after all, Maakz.

Nice ride, dark but fun.

Had a wee slip on one of the corners on some sand but the bike gripped after and continued round the corner. Only time I'll ever get to do some drifting! LOL

Hey SPOKES, I didn't get to ask you but where did you get those tank side grip pads? I'd like something like that for me bike...

The pads are Tech Spec. They will be going on the Bandit and I will be getting Full race stuff on the VTR. http://techspec-usa.com/magento/

I probably wont be there tomorrow. Lots to do at home.

I may even pretend to be a sparky, what could go wrong?

[nzspokes]

I haven't shown up for a few weeks but will definitely try to make it tomorrow.

I've got my OE flights booked for a couple months away so don't have long before having to bid farewall to my ol' Gixx.

What's the plan with this now? Do we meet at Manukau first to do drills or still at the Z?

I can "look after" the 750 while you are away?

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Any sparky q's feel free to ask, registered sparky ;-)

Have got some tank grip on its way, think it might be techspec stuff but cant remember.

New riding position is a bit interesting, tips in faster but also tends to wander a little more. Its a bit like learning how to ride the thing again lol, all going well i'll be there tomorrow :-)

[f2dz]

I can "look after" the 750 while you are away?

Pay off my student loan for me and you can happily look after it. :)

I'd love to hold onto it but I need the moolah and I don't have anywhere to keep it either. Unfortunately it doesn't fit into my carry on.


New riding position is a bit interesting, tips in faster but also tends to wander a little more. Its a bit like learning how to ride the thing again lol, all going well i'll be there tomorrow :-)

Are you back to clipons now?

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Sure am :-)

[Tigadee]

Won't be there tonight - have a parent-teacher meeting. Might drop by the pub later if possible.

[nzspokes]

Any sparky q's feel free to ask, registered sparky ;-)

Have got some tank grip on its way, think it might be techspec stuff but cant remember.

New riding position is a bit interesting, tips in faster but also tends to wander a little more. Its a bit like learning how to ride the thing again lol, all going well i'll be there tomorrow :-)
Sweet. Wanna wire up my carport and shed for lights and power?

[Big Dog]

Any sparky q's feel free to ask, registered sparky ;-)

Have got some tank grip on its way, think it might be techspec stuff but cant remember.

New riding position is a bit interesting, tips in faster but also tends to wander a little more. Its a bit like learning how to ride the thing again lol, all going well i'll be there tomorrow :-)

"Wandering" with clipons is normally due to too much weight on the bars, assuming you don't have an alignment issue.
Easy test, on a long straight, preferably downhill where there is a reasonable expectation of little traffic and good road surface, take all your weight off the bars so just your fingertips are touching.
If properly aligned your front wheel should caster along relatively straight without any inputs from you.

If it does not the problem is the bike. Could be alignment, a binding rotor, uneven response from the forks, soggy forks, inadequate springs, the list goes on.

If it goes relatively straight you need to look at your body position and or weight bias.
Most people who don't ride a sports bike and then go to a bike with clipons spend a lot of time holding themselves up.

Some strategies that have worked for me.
Do the chicken dance with your elbows at the midpoint of any straights. It makes you think about your body position.
Put the balls of your feet on the pegs. It shifts the lifting from your lumbar area to your thighs which are better equipped to take the weight off.
Fettle your levers. Rotating them until they are where you could lay your fingers on them while your forearm, wrist and fingers make a straight line while sitting in a comfortable good posture position means you are less likely to bear down with your palms and less likely to get sore wrists.
Make sure your foot controls are conformed to you also, it makes it a lot easier to maintain good posture if you can reach everything.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

Goddam tapatalk.

[Sis]

I haven't shown up for a few weeks but will definitely try to make it tomorrow.

I've got my OE flights booked for a couple months away so don't have long before having to bid farewall to my ol' Gixx.

What's the plan with this now? Do we meet at Manukau first to do drills or still at the Z?

Still gather at Z first and then meander down to a carpark at Mitre 10.

[aws]

Still gather at Z first and then meander down to a carpark at Mitre 10.
Which Mitre10?

[xXGIBBOXx]

Good to get out of the house for a chat and coffee . Have a good Easter break and hope the weather plays nice and you can get out for a ride .

[f2dz]

Which Mitre10?

Mitre 10 Takanini


Good to get out of the house for a chat and coffee . Have a good Easter break and hope the weather plays nice and you can get out for a ride .

Good to see you back man, hope you and your little guy are doing well. Also nice to see that bike of yours again - if only I had a spare 7 grand..

[f2dz]

Forgot to say that I really enjoyed the change in doing the practice before the ride. I reckon it's easier to practice stuff like that fresh instead of after riding for a while.

I'll admit I initially thought that turning practice was a bit basic but it was really handy to slow things down and actually concentrate on a small part of riding such as that. Was pretty surprised by how much worse I was at turning right than left.

Was also a good feeling riding country roads in the dark again. So long as I'm not leading I really enjoy it.

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[nzspokes]

Sorry I wont be there tonight. Im on doggy care duty.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Should be there, all going well....

Comissioning at work, who knows how it'll go

[f2dz]

I may or may not make it tonight. Gotta sit on the phone to IRD after work so depends how long that all takes.

[Sis]

I doubt that I will be able to make it.
I am in the middle of Year End accounts.

Hopefully catch up with you all next week.

[Maakz]

Unlikely to make it tonight. Enjoy

[granda]

Does that mean i am riding solo then ?

[f2dz]

I'm aiming to be there - that is if I get off call waiting soon! :eek5:

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Nah not riding by yourself, ardmore quarry rd is awesome, gave up with hunting for the headlight issue tonight, take another crack at it tomorrow.

[granda]

Yes a little different tonight. Short n sweet. Will use some of that loop again for sure

[Maakz]

Good to meet ya Dru. Tig & Theantidote-guys, was great to see yáll if however briefly. Thanks yáll for waiting whilst ur TEC stuffed face with burger. Granda, that was a fantastic fang round the back blocks. Short and Aces mate!!!! Windies were all kinds of awesome. U did mint at lead. Pat urself on the back for that one...consistent, not too fast not too slow, kept us together, everyones spacing was superb and considered. Only a hedgehog, pukeko and something else splattered on the road. Enjoyed being TEC and seeing yáll take the wyvern line. Sorry I missed ya at the watering hole Sis, got me shopping done before the showers set in, replete with nameless essential and cool factor demerit bungied on the back. A necessity but one that no one willingly admits to, except for moi..hehehehe!!!!! See yáll nek wiki all willing.

[nzspokes]

My normal service should resume next week.

[Tigadee]

Nice to see those there at the meeting point. Seven of us and five went out to ride - Theantidote and son were on their way home as was I, so we only dropped by to say "Hi", and give moral support.

Sounds like that was a great (new) route, Granda. Hope I get to experience it some time...

[nzspokes]

Weather looking a little average for this week.

Everybody get out for a pootle this weekend. Sharry and i went to Pahi, never even knew the place existed. Meet some mates in Maungatoroto. Our new seat works very well with Sharry getting no real pain. :niceone:

[Tigadee]

Great to hear that, Spokes. Money well spent, that seat is...

[granda]

Where is Pahi (excuse my lack of nz geography)

[nzspokes]

Where is Pahi (excuse my lack of nz geography)

http://www.kauricoast.com/pahi-beach-motor-camp/

[f2dz]

Pretty forgettable stretch of highway there on the way to Dargaville, so I'll have to remember to go to Pahi the next time I go through there.

May or may not be there tomorrow. Forecast is looking drizzly.

[Gadget1]

Pretty forgettable stretch of highway there on the way to Dargaville, so I'll have to remember to go to Pahi the next time I go through there.

May or may not be there tomorrow. Forecast is looking drizzly.


Another good route up that way is to turn off at Paparoa and go through to Oakleigh, just south of Whangarei. Then it's a loop on to the Waipu Cove /Coast road to Mangawhai then Wellsord back to SH16.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Have had a meeting organised over top of my plans, so won't be there tomorrow night sorry guys

[granda]

Fore cast not the best for carpark work but good for road experience. Todays rain should have washed off rubbish

[Maakz]

Won't make it tomorrow night folks, work meeting down country. Ooosh, Murphys Law, jump on MY and head to work and get to Manukau heading for the NW when the heavens open and the torrent begins. :baby: Guess who didn't gear up in wets then? :pinch: Best imitation of a drowned rat. Bahahahaha :banana: Be cautious out there my friends. Catch up with yáll later.

[Sis]

I plan on being there.
Think I will put my liners in. Suddenly a bit cold.

[granda]

Had the same though this morning.

[nzspokes]

I may not be there sorry. Im training staff most of the day finishing at 5.30 and my voice is already almost gone. Will see how Im going later on.

[Sis]

I am running late but plan on getting there.

[nzspokes]

Sorry I have wimped out. To long a day.

[f2dz]

Too wet and cold for me. Have a good ride.

[Tigadee]

Sorry I didn't make it, aSASSins. Had another case of in-law-itis...

Even got to sit in traffic for an hour, thanks to the in-laws. :facepalm:


...and my voice is already almost gone.

What are you, a drill sergeant? :laugh:

[granda]

Sorry I didn't make it, aSASSins. Had another case of in-law-itis...

Even got to sit in traffic for an hour, thanks to the in-laws. :facepalm:



What are you, a drill sergeant? :laugh:


Had a great ride all three of us. No rain but got fog. Need to practice my garage hard left turns. Lucky no one saw the little oops in the car park after you left.

[nzspokes]

What are you, a drill sergeant? :laugh:

Im worse. Im the Health and Safety guy.

Anybody see a trend here?

[granda]

You ommitted to show me the hazard. Oh no the paper trail begins

[nzspokes]

You ommitted to show me the hazard. Oh no the paper trail begins

No, I need to engage with you to find out why you didnt identify the hazard. Then work out how you eliminate, isolate or minimize it......

[granda]

Cant entirely eliminate. Maybe isolate. Minimise by retraining operator.

[nzspokes]

Cant entirely eliminate. Maybe isolate. Minimise by retraining operator.

Bubble wrap will isolate just fine....

[granda]

Thats what i forgot. Too busy trying out the earplugs forgot the wrap. Oh well wanted a new helmet anyway. Can get a flip face now

[nzspokes]

Thats what i forgot. Too busy trying out the earplugs forgot the wrap. Oh well wanted a new helmet anyway. Can get a flip face now

I have never liked the idea of a flip face. Worried they will flip open in a slide.

[granda]

Now we are about to open a can of worms. Seeing how i want an early night lets just say that they have fors n against 😃

[nzspokes]

Now we are about to open a can of worms. Seeing how i want an early night lets just say that they have fors n against 😃

Oh I get that. Just not my thing. I wont ever own one though.

[aws]

I love my flip face helmet. Doubt I'll ever own one that isn't a flip face.

Go for it Granda. However I'd recommend that you don't buy one until you've test ridden it. And spend as much as you can afford, the cheap ones are going to be noisy and draughty.

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[Tigadee]

I started out with a standard helmet but found it extremely difficult to use thanks to being a spectacle user. A flip face was a wonderful switch and I would never go back unless I had lasik done or started wearing contact lenses.

I have to advise though, Granda, that flip-face helmets are a bit noisier and slightly heavier than standard helmets although some are quieter than others.

I use two flip-face helmets - one for summer and one for winter... You may have noticed as I have a summer white FFM one (or was it HJC?) which I find noisier but cooler and air-ier. I also use a dark blue Zeus flip-face for winter which is warmer (too warm for summer) but is much quieter.

Either one flips up sufficiently high for you to ride with the chin piece up (as the motorcycle cops do), e.g. when the weather is hot, but usually a practice for very low speeds or when stopped, not on the motorway, for example.

I have not found any issues with the locking mechanisms on either although the Zeus is newer, so locks with a more audible and affirming 'click'. Probably the more expensive brands and models would be quieter and/or lighter.

I wish I could wear standard helmets as the designs look much cooler and there are more choices but until I can stop wearing glasses, I'm happy with my flip-face helmets and would not have any other type.

[Tigadee]

Cant entirely eliminate. Maybe isolate. Minimise by retraining operator.

Throw down some motor oil and practice your figure 8s... that'll learn ya! Right quick!

[nzspokes]

I started out with a standard helmet but found it extremely difficult to use thanks to being a spectacle user. A flip face was a wonderful switch and I would never go back unless I had lasik done or started wearing contact lenses.

I have to advise though, Granda, that flip-face helmets are a bit noisier and slightly heavier than standard helmets although some are quieter than others.

I use two flip-face helmets - one for summer and one for winter... You may have noticed as I have a summer white FFM one (or was it HJC?) which I find noisier but cooler and air-ier. I also use a dark blue Zeus flip-face for winter which is warmer (too warm for summer) but is much quieter.

Either one flips up sufficiently high for you to ride with the chin piece up (as the motorcycle cops do), e.g. when the weather is hot, but usually a practice for very low speeds or when stopped, not on the motorway, for example.

I have not found any issues with the locking mechanisms on either although the Zeus is newer, so locks with a more audible and affirming 'click'. Probably the more expensive brands and models would be quieter and/or lighter.

I wish I could wear standard helmets as the designs look much cooler and there are more choices but until I can stop wearing glasses, I'm happy with my flip-face helmets and would not have any other type.

My Shoei is designed with channels for using glasses.

[Tigadee]

My Shoei is designed with channels for using glasses.

Such a shoei-off... *da-dadum-ching*

[The End]

My Shoei is designed with channels for using glasses.

I don't know if my HJC has 'channel's for glasses, but my glasses fit fine inside. I prefer wearing them over my ear as normal rather than 'floating' inside the helmet.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

I've got a cheepy HLD helmet with drop down visor, have glasses and earbuds in no worries, just crack the visor a touch if i fog up :-)

[nzspokes]

I don't know if my HJC has 'channel's for glasses, but my glasses fit fine inside. I prefer wearing them over my ear as normal rather than 'floating' inside the helmet.

My understanding is thats how you wear them, but have not tried.

Its a choice thing, as long as its a quality helmet.

[Maakz]

On the way home tonight bout 6.47pm, just before the Green Lane East - Tecouma off ramps heading south, trailing a line of cars and bang 7 car crunch in the fast lane nose to tail fender benders before that lane came to a complete but abrupt stop. Biggest hazards, idiots pulling out of the melee into the path of traffic coming fast in the other lanes and underestimating speed. AND people in cars jumping outtiv their vehicles and into traffic. Ergo emergency slow down before verring into other lanes to the left to play dodge the cages and filter like buggery or become road kill. Yet-not a panic sitch but a calm, better get outtiv this SR-self preservation. Glad that's become auto.That is why we do what we do on SASS nights, so we can get ourselves out of major DOODOO. This is not a kudos me post, but a caution to be vigilant and assess the rhythm of the traffic and the tell tale signs as you ride. First thing I registered was the tail lights ahead-constant pumping and too close... then the smell of metal and electrics after the crash, then the movement going on around the hazard and clearance space ahead. You analyse the gaps and the clear spaces pretty fast when ur butts on the line. Mirrors were my friend and likewise speed adjustment. Remember-think and look for your escape route. The car behind me ploughed into the car in front of me.

Be safe this weekend, rains coming.

[Big Dog]

Congrats on not ending up a part of the melee.

I am sure the Southern has a neutraliser at each bend.

I had a bit of a moment on the southern today too.
Northbound on the approach to the bridge (right hand wheel track of the right hand lane at a nice steady 100) in Takanini a car driver in my peripheral vision seemed to forget he was driving. Just stopped paying attention to what he was doing to look closely at his thumb and in doing so speared into my lane.
Based on trajectory he was not aware of the lane change or the rapidly approaching collision with a barrier, let alone me first. Quick assessment of the options: braking very risky. Tailgater.
Nowhere to go forwards without lane splitting or getting on the shoulder.

Horn long and hard got him back in his lane. He seemed very surprised to find he was approaching a barrier at about 45 degrees. He also seemed a lot surprised he was driving.
Not sure if he was in more danger of hitting the tow truck or rolling the car but I was glad to be in one piece.



Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[granda]

Silly season appears to have arrived early all right. Even riding out of town they are still there. Rode down to our fav cafe at waitakaruru via kaiaua this morn and they were there too. Either 80 km in 100 area or using my side of the road on left handers. Great ride back though. Road a bit dryer and plenty other 2 wheelers. Kaiaua still popular ice cream stop

[Tigadee]

:msn-wink: Wow, you peeps have exciting commutes! LOL

Glad you're all safe! :niceone:

[Maakz]

Glad u made it unscathed Big Dog. Yes, Takanini is a hotspot for trouble. Beats me how some drivers totally zone out? Duh...high risk activity driving, wits about ya! Granda, love that chippie stop and watering hole. Mmmm dunno if i'll make it tonight, works conspiring to keep me here. If um not there by the time you're ready to roll then catch y'all up next SASS.

[nzspokes]

Sorry I home with a cold.

[f2dz]

Won't be able to make it tonight unfortunately. Been sick for about a week now - got a doctor's appointment in the morning.

Getting a service and new tyres next Tuesday so if I can manage to scrub in ma tyres enough on the way home I'll be there.

[aws]

Won't be able to make it tonight unfortunately. Been sick for about a week now - got a doctor's appointment in the morning.

Getting a service and new tyres next Tuesday so if I can manage to scrub in ma tyres enough on the way home I'll be there.
Or you could just consider SASS a good opportunity to scrub in said tyres [emoji3] Assuming of course that you believe in the whole concept of scrubbing in tyres [emoji39]

[Rikard]

Hey I haven't ridden with you guys before but am keen to come out tonight. If that's cool where and when are you meeting?

[Sis]

Hey I haven't ridden with you guys before but am keen to come out tonight. If that's cool where and when are you meeting?

Hi
We meet at the Takanini Z Station on the corner of Great South Road and Taka St. It has a Burger KIng at the back (should you need something to eat)
We leave there about 7 pm so I need to get my gear on and get down there.
Hope to see you there.

[Rikard]

Hi
We meet at the Takanini Z Station on the corner of Great South Road and Taka St. It has a Burger KIng at the back (should you need something to eat)
We leave there about 7 pm so I need to get my gear on and get down there.
Hope to see you there.

Hey mate thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I have a hairline crack on my alternator cover which has widened (jumped into my garage with all me gear on to see a puddle of oil under my bike). Drained all the oil and pulled off the cover to get welded tomorrow so might try to make it to the north shore meet tomorrow!

[f2dz]

Or you could just consider SASS a good opportunity to scrub in said tyres [emoji3] Assuming of course that you believe in the whole concept of scrubbing in tyres [emoji39]

I believe in it to an extent! I went easy on my last set of Bridgys for maybe 20km before riding like normal again.

My new tyres are some cheaper Continentals but I think they may come 'pre-scrubbed'. ie. not so shiny shiny

[aws]

I believe in it to an extent! I went easy on my last set of Bridgys for maybe 20km before riding like normal again.

My new tyres are some cheaper Continentals but I think they may come 'pre-scrubbed'. ie. not so shiny shiny
I had some of those Contis once. It is just a micro texture cast into the tyre. Looks really cool - for a tyre! [emoji6]

[Tigadee]

My new tyres are some cheaper Continentals but I think they may come 'pre-scrubbed'. ie. not so shiny shiny

Conti's technology for their tyre surface is great. Rode my Contis from new like normal, never a slip or slide... Much grip, so confident, wow!

[xXGIBBOXx]

Hey peeps hope all is well , I have my full now ! Yeah I know about time boy and all that jazz . Brought a new toy , 2008 street triple , with 15000 mms on the clock 😁 fun new toy like riding a magic carpet sitting on the bike rather that in the bike like the 500 . Just need a name for her now ? Will post pictures soon 😁

[Sis]

Hey peeps hope all is well , I have my full now ! Yeah I know about time boy and all that jazz . Brought a new toy , 2008 street triple , with 15000 mms on the clock 😁 fun new toy like riding a magic carpet sitting on the bike rather that in the bike like the 500 . Just need a name for her now ? Will post pictures soon 😁

Congrataulations on your license and ride.:Punk::Punk::Punk:


We will let you off the pics as long as you bring it along to SASS.

[aws]

Conti's technology for their tyre surface is great. Rode my Contis from new like normal, never a slip or slide... Much grip, so confident, wow!
I think it's just a textured mould. And I suspect the difference is mostly in our heads. Tyre break-in would have to be one of the most contentious subjects on a motorcycle forum - right up there with flip face helmets!😉 I was reading a forum recently where this very discussion was going on and a lot of the track guys were saying that they basically just take them out of the warmers and go hard from the first lap - most don't even bother to peel the stickers off!😨

[Tigadee]

Hey peeps hope all is well , I have my full now ! Yeah I know about time boy and all that jazz . Brought a new toy , 2008 street triple

Congrats and congrats! The Triple? Oh yeah! :Punk:


And I suspect the difference is mostly in our heads.

Sort of like riding in the rain - I used to be such a nana and scaredy cat when riding in the rain, it was almost comical.

Now I'm more confident, I ride like normal - just with more vigilance watching other vehicles (who would have an even harder time seeing me), and for oil slicks on the road and white paint.

[f2dz]

Hey peeps hope all is well , I have my full now ! Yeah I know about time boy and all that jazz . Brought a new toy , 2008 street triple , with 15000 mms on the clock 😁 fun new toy like riding a magic carpet sitting on the bike rather that in the bike like the 500 . Just need a name for her now ? Will post pictures soon 😁

Congrats mate! That's the bike I'm thinking of moving to next actually. Either that or maybe an MT-09..


I think it's just a textured mould. And I suspect the difference is mostly in our heads. Tyre break-in would have to be one of the most contentious subjects on a motorcycle forum - right up there with flip face helmets!😉 I was reading a forum recently where this very discussion was going on and a lot of the track guys were saying that they basically just take them out of the warmers and go hard from the first lap - most don't even bother to peel the stickers off!😨

I dunno. Perhaps like you say it's just a mental thing, but I know that when I get brand new tyres on a bike it definitely feels a bit more skitish to me for the first 10-20kms or so. After that I just ride like normal though.

Look up Marcel Irnie on YouTube - he's a professional racer in the America/Canada circuits and you can see a bunch of his videos on track where guys run brand new tyres with stickers on and they are cranked over right from the start. Those stickers don't last long at 250kph+. :P

[nzspokes]

I think it's just a textured mould. And I suspect the difference is mostly in our heads. Tyre break-in would have to be one of the most contentious subjects on a motorcycle forum - right up there with flip face helmets!😉 I was reading a forum recently where this very discussion was going on and a lot of the track guys were saying that they basically just take them out of the warmers and go hard from the first lap - most don't even bother to peel the stickers off!😨

Was speaking to the guys at Drury tyres, they can tell you how many people have gone for a slide just outside the shop on new tyres. It has to do a lot with compound, pressure etc etc.

Track tyres are soft anyway and will have traction right away, but will still need heating to get to there best.

My rules is ride normally but just dont pin it for 10ks.

[Tigadee]

Either that or maybe an MT-09..

Mmmmmm, if I were to move to another bike, that'd be the one I'd get!

[Maakz]

Congrats on the full licence and new ride Gibbox, fantastico! :drinknsin Have fun out there :Police: and eagerly awaiting pics :corn:-triple...och such a sleek machine, riders always look like they're gliding along the asphalt. :Punk: Have a great ANZAC everyone.

[james.g.gibbs]

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[james.g.gibbs]

After a day of ownership , Letty is now sporting new bar end mirrors and a sexy Zard exhaust . And photos to prove it happened .lol

[nzspokes]

After a day of ownership , Letty is now sporting new bar end mirrors and a sexy Zard exhaust . And photos to prove it happened .lol

Nice man! Really really nice. Enjoy.

I like the old mirrors. LOL

[aws]

I dunno. Perhaps like you say it's just a mental thing, but I know that when I get brand new tyres on a bike it definitely feels a bit more skitish to me for the first 10-20kms or so. After that I just ride like normal though.


I've never noticed anything unusual with new tyres, but then again I never normally ride that hard anyway, and usually take it easy on new tyres - just because, why take the risk ;)


Was speaking to the guys at Drury tyres, they can tell you how many people have gone for a slide just outside the shop on new tyres. It has to do a lot with compound, pressure etc etc.

Track tyres are soft anyway and will have traction right away, but will still need heating to get to there best.

My rules is ride normally but just dont pin it for 10ks.

I think the key is that the tyres need to be warm. "Outside the shop" implies "cold" as I doubt they use tyre warmers :p. 10 Ks ought to do it :).

I recall following someone else on a ride one night back in the day. He was a bit slow getting ready, so my bike was well warmed up by the time we left. With a warmed up bike, I gave it a bit more herbs on the first corner than I usually would with a cold bike. Man did I find out what a difference a few Ks of warm up riding make to your grip! Didn't come off, but it sure gave me a fright. I think the fact that I always take it easy while the bike is warming up helps to avoid those cold tyre slides.

[Sis]

I've never noticed anything unusual with new tyres, but then again I never normally ride that hard anyway, and usually take it easy on new tyres - just because, why take the risk ;)



I think the key is that the tyres need to be warm. "Outside the shop" implies "cold" as I doubt they use tyre warmers :p. 10 Ks ought to do it :).

I recall following someone else on a ride one night back in the day. He was a bit slow getting ready, so my bike was well warmed up by the time we left. With a warmed up bike, I gave it a bit more herbs on the first corner than I usually would with a cold bike. Man did I find out what a difference a few Ks of warm up riding make to your grip! Didn't come off, but it sure gave me a fright. I think the fact that I always take it easy while the bike is warming up helps to avoid those cold tyre slides.

When ever I begin a ride, I think, cold tyres, cold engine and cold brain. That way I am settling in for the ride as my bike does.

[Sis]

After a day of ownership , Letty is now sporting new bar end mirrors and a sexy Zard exhaust . And photos to prove it happened .lol

Love the pics and hope to see it in the flesh soon.

By the way, you have started a new name. What have you done under the old one? Banned? Or should we not ask?

[Sis]

If anyone is interested in joining in on a pootle out to Maraetai, I am leaving the Z service station on the Corner of Great South Road and Alfriston Road in MANUREWA at 2 pm. Please note that it is NOT the usual place we gather on a Tuesday evening.

I hope I have made it clear enough where the start is . Or I could see you out there. I might be a bit grumpy until I get a coffee.

[james.g.gibbs]

No new name , just set up my tap a talk thing and now I'm stuck with it round the wrong way . And yeah I'm trying to make it to this week's meet up .

[nzspokes]

If anyone is interested in joining in on a pootle out to Maraetai, I am leaving the Z service station on the Corner of Great South Road and Alfriston Road in MANUREWA at 2 pm. Please note that it is NOT the usual place we gather on a Tuesday evening.

I hope I have made it clear enough where the start is . Or I could see you out there. I might be a bit grumpy until I get a coffee.

Would love to but very tired from a big ride yesterday and getting over the cold. Have a fun ride!

[Sis]

[QUOTE=james.g.gibbs;1130856990]No new name , just set up my tap a talk thing and now I'm stuck with it round the wrong way . And yeah I'm trying to make it to this week's meet up .[/QUOTE

No new name is boring. We could do the gossip thing and come up with a very inventive story about it , rather than the phone thing.

And it would be lovely to see you this week. The daylight saving changes has us riding in the dark and it is surprising how it is taking a while to get a grip on night riding. Of course we also choose back roads with no road markings what so ever and after a recent storm with all sorts of debris on the roads like pine needles. On last week's ride we also managed somehow to throw in oncoming vehicle not keeping to their side of the road. Oh hang on a minute, that last bit happens all the time.

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[Tigadee]

Sorry won't be there tonight. :( Running a conference this week at Skycity...

[f2dz]

Don't think I'll be able to make it tonight.

Be careful if you guys ride anywhere near Sky High or out Hunua ways. I drove back that way yesterday from the Coromandel and there was a bunch of crap from the trees on the ground as well as pine needles thanks to the wild weather.

My car was sliding all over the place so I imagine it'd be very greasy on a bike also.

[bawked]

Won't be able to make it either, still too bloody busy at work to have a life haha

Should be able to start making it again in a couple weeks though!

[nzspokes]

Sorry. Ive come back down with the cold. I wont be there. Gunna go home to bed.

[Sis]

Just letting those who aren't working, or sick, that I will be there. :scooter:

[james.g.gibbs]

Damn having a fast bike with no traction control or ABS is fun in the wet . It's like learning to ride again . Have fun out there peer and keep it rubber side down yo !

[nzspokes]

Just letting those who aren't working, or sick, that I will be there. :scooter:

Thankfully I seem to be starting to come right. Over it.

[nzspokes]

Damn having a fast bike with no traction control or ABS is fun in the wet . It's like learning to ride again . Have fun out there peer and keep it rubber side down yo !

Yup, bikes with real power are different beasts. Just take your time getting used to it.

[james.g.gibbs]

Hell yeah the little Lams bike was to the stop all the time rain or shine and you had to cock it up big time to get out of shape .lol now the triple is pointing out all my little faults and fishtails in the wet if you are to fast on the gas . If rides beautiful and tips in fast and smooth . And that intake roar !

[nzspokes]

Hell yeah the little Lams bike was to the stop all the time rain or shine and you had to cock it up big time to get out of shape .lol now the triple is pointing out all my little faults and fishtails in the wet if you are to fast on the gas . If rides beautiful and tips in fast and smooth . And that intake roar !

Yes the change over to real power can be tricky for some. Torque is what catches people out as it comes on early and bites, very much so in the wet, tar bleeds and painted lines. And more weight means harder to stop and need to be more careful of your footing.

[samgab]

Yes the change over to real power can be tricky for some. Torque is what catches people out as it comes on early and bites, very much so in the wet, tar bleeds and painted lines. And more weight means harder to stop and need to be more careful of your footing.

I haven't had any traction issues with the gixxer since getting it (despite riding in the wet a large percentage of the time). The other day though I was riding a gsr600 loaner bike in the rain while mine was getting its 1000K service, and that got pretty squirrely under throttle. I think it might come down to tyres, and possibly more torque low down with the GSR. By the time I'm ready to update the gixxer ABS and Traction control will probably be standard issue on all new bikes, as it is on new cars today. I wonder what riding the 2015 R1 is like with all its electronic rider "aids"...

[nzspokes]

I haven't had any traction issues with the gixxer since getting it (despite riding in the wet a large percentage of the time). The other day though I was riding a gsr600 loaner bike in the rain while mine was getting its 1000K service, and that got pretty squirrely under throttle. I think it might come down to tyres, and possibly more torque low down with the GSR. By the time I'm ready to update the gixxer ABS and Traction control will probably be standard issue on all new bikes, as it is on new cars today. I wonder what riding the 2015 R1 is like with all its electronic rider "aids"...
To be fair a supersport 600 wont produce power untill higher rpm. others will produce strong power almost right away. My VTR will wheelspin at 2.5k rpm.

[f2dz]

To be fair a supersport 600 wont produce power untill higher rpm. others will produce strong power almost right away. My VTR will wheelspin at 2.5k rpm.

Ditto with a 750. I've never had my rear tyre lose traction under power except for over drain covers and white lines in the wet.

Not surprising you wheelspin easy - common knowledge you're a hoon.

[nzspokes]

Ditto with a 750. I've never had my rear tyre lose traction under power except for over drain covers and white lines in the wet.

Not surprising you wheelspin easy - common knowledge you're a hoon.
I'm struggling to argue with the Hoon comment.

[nzspokes]

So im not sick, Ive not got stuff to do. Looks like I will be there this week. Do have a hospital visit in a bit but nothing major.

Sharry may be along also. :niceone:

[f2dz]

I'm aiming to be there also.

New tyres have a couple hundred kms on em now so I'm good to gooo.

[Big Dog]

I'm aiming to be there also.

New tyres have a couple hundred kms on em now so I'm good to gooo.

Sounds... sticky.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Sis]

Well, I am glad someone is going to be there.
I may not.

Once again I am bogged down at work. I may call in to the pub on my way home

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Double shift at work, rails stand over... joy.

[Sis]

I am just bout finished here but it is too late to get home and get the bike out. So I am going to skip "GO" and go straight to Broncos, where I will get myself some food and drink. See you there

[f2dz]

Thanks for the ride last night y'all, was a good one - minus almost hitting a cat.

And thanks again to James for letting me ride his new beast. I'm jealous and I want one.

I'd share the video I took of me riding it down the motorway but I'm sure you don't wanna hear me squealing like a girl.


Sounds... sticky.

They're not too bad so far actually. The profile isn't as extreme as my last set though, so I've managed to get to the edge of them pretty quickly already. Don't know if that's a good or a bad thing..


Double shift at work, rails stand over... joy.

Cya next week maybe.

[Tigadee]

Not surprising you wheelspin easy - common knowledge you're a hoon.

I'm struggling to argue with the Hoon comment.

:killingme :killingme

[xXGIBBOXx]

Post it post it !

[f2dz]

Post it post it !

I'll pm you a link

[Tigadee]

...so I've managed to get to the edge of them pretty quickly already. Don't know if that's a good or a bad thing..

Who da hoon now? :laugh:

[f2dz]

Who da hoon now? :laugh:

Still Rob :bleh:

[nzspokes]

Still Rob :bleh:
Meh. I only got a 250.

[Tigadee]

Meh. I only got a 250.

What happened to the rest of the 1,000 CCs?! :shit:

[eldog]

Yesterday I was thinking bout the amount of traction I had when suddenly the rear slid out LOL was in the car :headbang:

thought it was time to reduce the pressure in my tyres to increase friction so the tyres heat up more (its cold outside) and get more grip. OK I'm not talking large amounts just 2-3 psi
Anyone got any ideas, maybe discussion at the pub? :scratch:

Just to reinforce my ideas on traction a Beemer did a 180 while going around the SOuthgate roundabout. Had to applaude him (definitely a him) stopped the traffic long enough for a few of us to get through. :banana: If it was me it would have been a 360 its so slick there.

RANT: There a few other slick intersections in Pkura, Council never fixes them-only the straight bits 3 or four times same place every year WTF. Seemed to remember Scenic Drive similar crappy road surface designed to reduce traffic speed.

[eldog]

What happened to the rest of the 1,000 CCs?! :shit:

He cut the other 3 cylinders off the block to make the CBR into a Speed Triple :whistle:

he pretty clever that man.:2thumbsup

[nzspokes]

Who da hoon now? :laugh:

To be fair Ive got to the edges of the Bandits tyres as well. This track stuff teaches you how to lean.

Its surprising how much further you can go than you think.

[eldog]

To be fair Ive got to the edges of the Bandits tyres as well. This track stuff teaches you how to lean.

Its surprising how much further you can go than you think.

try it with square scorpio tyres......

I remember our leaning at the Pkura On ramp, during that ride I never felt so safe. Amazing what feed back the tyres gave to simple person like me. I was impressed with how I could tell what was happening to the traction below me.

Thats why I suggested to Granda to give the pillion experience a go.

[Gremlin]

Its surprising how much further you can go than you think.
And then.... you can't :eek:

A lot depends on rider, bike, suspension and tyres. Not all tyres are equal, some are more rounded than others (mentioning this as it's less obvious than compound). Running off the edge of tyres results in a very sharp drop in contact patch and sidewalls aren't really designed for riding on.

Plus, just because you're grinding some part of a bike doesn't automatically mean you're leaning way over. Try taking a cruiser for a spin :laugh:

[nzspokes]

And then.... you can't :eek:

A lot depends on rider, bike, suspension and tyres. Not all tyres are equal, some are more rounded than others (mentioning this as it's less obvious than compound). Running off the edge of tyres results in a very sharp drop in contact patch and sidewalls aren't really designed for riding on.

Plus, just because you're grinding some part of a bike doesn't automatically mean you're leaning way over. Try taking a cruiser for a spin :laugh:

Agreed. When we got the Bandit, 2 up I scrapped pegs and boots along with the centre stand. It wasnt my epic skill but poorly set up suspension. Now I just touch my boot from time to time when being lazy.

Running off the edge of the tyre is not happy fun times.

[Sis]

And then.... you can't :eek:
Plus, just because you're grinding some part of a bike doesn't automatically mean you're leaning way over. Try taking a cruiser for a spin :laugh:

Yep, know that feeling. Bent my exhaust pipe so much after dragging it on the road that I put a crack in it. I think AMPS thought it was defective and replaced it free of charge.

[Gremlin]

Yep, know that feeling. Bent my exhaust pipe so much after dragging it on the road that I put a crack in it. I think AMPS thought it was defective and replaced it free of charge.
:laugh: Nice work.

Now that you mention it, I borrowed my boss's Blackbird at one point... then had to tell him afterwards I'd put big scrapes in the aftermarket headers as they sat a little proud of the fairing :facepalm:

[eldog]

I wasnt talking about riding at the edge of the tyre.

Looked at shape of tyre before I got on, took a mental picture.
Compared it to the angle of the bike relative to the ground.
Did this while Spokes repositioned himself before the corner.

Did a few calcs in my head, he probably was just getting to the start of the edge of the tyre
still mostly on the tyre itself.
felt the tyre when we finished, good heat across the surface (maybe 40 degree)
I am no tyre expert, I just look, listen, and take information. Rather than just accept like a
lemming.

I always question things part of why I still goto SASS so I can learn.

I get the feeling that most people dont read my posts correctly.....

its no wonder why I dont ride much any more. Just to pub and home again.

[eldog]

Yep, know that feeling. Bent my exhaust pipe so much after dragging it on the road that I put a crack in it. I think AMPS thought it was defective and replaced it free of charge.

Nah, you just flashed your eyes and pretended to be a little old lady rider.:banana:

[eldog]

And then.... you can't :eek:

A lot depends on rider, bike, suspension and tyres. Not all tyres are equal, some are more rounded than others (mentioning this as it's less obvious than compound). Running off the edge of tyres results in a very sharp drop in contact patch and sidewalls aren't really designed for riding on.

Plus, just because you're grinding some part of a bike doesn't automatically mean you're leaning way over. Try taking a cruiser for a spin :laugh:

Wasnt talking about running off the edge of the tyre, but points taken.

need to get a better cruiser model, with higher or short stub pipes.

Trying to get some discussion about weather related available traction and what we can do to increase it now that the cold, wet and oily surface has arrived along with the shit road construction AKA Tyre Bleed

[nzspokes]

As im doing a bit of study on oils, we can have a chat about it next week If anybody is interested.

[eldog]

As im doing a bit of study on oils, we can have a chat about it next week If anybody is interested.

I am always interested in anything remotely mechanical/chemical/boobs/mining etc

committments next week, not sure the week after.

so if I miss out, I miss out. Thanks for the offer.:rockon:

back to alcohol blindness....

[Gremlin]

Trying to get some discussion about weather related available traction and what we can do to increase it now that the cold, wet and oily surface has arrived along with the shit road construction AKA Tyre Bleed
A motorcycle's natural resting position is on its side, unlike a car which is its 4 wheels. The closer it is to its natural position, the more likely it is to adopt the position. Therefore, you want to maximise the time the motorcycle spends upright. A slippery road with a high crown presents more risk than a flat road with lots of grip.

Then, be aware of the surface by scanning forward as much as possible to give you the maximum reaction time. Try to avoid low traction areas, be aware of factors such as light rain after a long dry spell... etc.

[eldog]

A motorcycle's natural resting position is on its side, unlike a car which is its 4 wheels. The closer it is to its natural position, the more likely it is to adopt the position. Therefore, you want to maximise the time the motorcycle spends upright. A slippery road with a high crown presents more risk than a flat road with lots of grip.

Then, be aware of the surface by scanning forward as much as possible to give you the maximum reaction time. Try to avoid low traction areas, be aware of factors such as light rain after a long dry spell... etc.

Agree, seems to me most people don't want to talk about it or share the info. They only want to talk about wearing safe gear, not much about other important stuff.
so maybe SASS isn't the place for me and my ideas.

most don't want to know and think they are lucky not to experience what can happen to those who don't have that info in the first place - like me.

Being a NOOB hard to scan too much ahead, but I am getting more relaxed when I ride byself, this means that I can look further ahead and make better decisions. Less to worry about other riders and ME causing them any hassles.

Been trying to get the young guy who passes me every morning to wear gloves-no luck so far.

Seen mbike in its natural position several times now - not pretty.

Wondering if working 12-14 hour days then riding for 10minutes to meet with some like? minded riders is worth it only good bit I look forward to is going down the motorway on ramp.
Best acceleration the Scorpio will ever have unless I run it off a cliff LOL

[Gremlin]

Most of us started as noobs. With years of experience it's easy to look back, hindsight is always 20/20.

The years give you the experience... here's an example... 10 years for me this month: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/entry.php/5799-10-Years-On

[eldog]

Most of us started as noobs. With years of experience it's easy to look back, hindsight is always 20/20.

The years give you the experience... here's an example... 10 years for me this month: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/entry.php/5799-10-Years-On


Yes and I know that you are both willing and able to talk about all matters mbike.
Its the small things that experienced riders know and take for granted that they forget NOOBs don't know.

I guess that's why CBTA has come about and 'training' even training is still too blinkered - its goto be I guess to keep people coming back.

When you (me) ride once a week you don't really pick up any real skills, you try to do things like keep up etc and fall into traps out of your depth.

That's why I went to training, to SASS etc to find out those things that aren't in any book or video.

things that experience teaches people.

That's why I ask silly questions, don't mind sounding like an idiot. I spent years not asking questions-trying not to look stupid.

[nzspokes]

Most of us started as noobs. With years of experience it's easy to look back, hindsight is always 20/20.

The years give you the experience... here's an example... 10 years for me this month: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/entry.php/5799-10-Years-On

Nice read. But not many bikes. You must try harder.

[eldog]

Nice read. But not many bikes. You must try harder.

Agreed with the nice read.

but try harder? at whot?

10 years on a bike, 300,000 ks, overseas, seeing mates killed, buying and selling bikes, going offroad/gravel

buying a Beemer, seems to have covered it all, including a Honda

Maybe a few track days? MotoX?, X Games, Gymkhana on a 1200 GS - that I would like to see :headbang:

[Gremlin]

Nice read. But not many bikes. You must try harder.
Boike slut :bleh:


Maybe a few track days? MotoX?, X Games, Gymkhana on a 1200 GS - that I would like to see :headbang:
Well I've never ridden a motorcross/dirt bike. Track days, done two (Taupo on ZX10R, HD on 990SM) and marshalled countless more. Gymkhana? Well, I do triathlon/marathon etc which sees enough u-turns, slow speed riding (high speed riding too) etc :msn-wink:

[nzspokes]

Boike slut :bleh:



I can just see you on a Harley with a little trailer for your MTB. :yes:

[nzspokes]

So who else got out for a pootle? We did a very nice 320ish ks. Bit tired now. :yawn: Tiz a bit harder in winding roads 2 up.

Ive also just seen a black GSXR750 on trade me. :crybaby:

[f2dz]

Ive also just seen a black GSXR750 on trade me. :crybaby:

Tis a sad day. :(

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[Tigadee]

I am always interested in anything remotely mechanical/chemical/boobs/mining etc

:blink: :eek5:


A slippery road with a high crown presents more risk than a flat road with lots of grip.

On that thought, would it be better to run tyres slightly lower in pressure during the cold, wet winter months?

I know lower pressures means more wear and tear on the tyre so I am not saying drastically lower pressures, just 5psi or so below standard? Much less hooning around during that time of the year anyway, so less stress on the tyres, and running at slightly lower pressure would give more contact area to the road?


Tis a sad day. :(

Eh? Say it ain't so! What gives?

[f2dz]

Eh? Say it ain't so! What gives?

Leaving the country at the end of the month mate! You gotta come along to more SASS sessions.

I'm aiming to make it to tomorrow as well as one more week perhaps, but that may be my last for a wee while.

[Tigadee]

Dayum! Yeah, it's been crazy full on since last year for me...

Must make it this or next week to catch up with you before you're off to break some foreign girls' hearts!

[nzspokes]

Remember to bring warm gear as it will be starting to get cold in the country.

I must invest in some hand guards. Or cut up a milk bottle.

Tomorrow before we go we will have a little chat about lines and the 2 second rule.

[eldog]

I must invest in some hand guards. Or cut up a milk bottle.

Tomorrow before we go we will have a little chat about lines and the 2 second rule.

Bandibusa - Hand Guards off the new DL 1000 Vstrom should fit

When I was younger I preferred lines,
now I am older and wiser I prefer curves, can we talk about curves?

2 second rule, mmmm watz that again? Oh yeah the time it takes Granda to see the funny side.


Spokes your right you should talk about lines and 2 second rule (I know I break that all the time, its when I cant see the brake light in front, I try to catch up)

[eldog]

On that thought, would it be better to run tyres slightly lower in pressure during the cold, wet winter months?

I know lower pressures means more wear and tear on the tyre so I am not saying drastically lower pressures, just 5psi or so below standard? Much less hooning around during that time of the year anyway, so less stress on the tyres, and running at slightly lower pressure would give more contact area to the road?

tyre pressure - check out post #4876 - it was Eldog asking the same question:nya:

[eldog]

Leaving the country at the end of the month mate! You gotta come along to more SASS sessions.

I'm aiming to make it to tomorrow as well as one more week perhaps, but that may be my last for a wee while.
:hug:
:cry::cry:
:cry::drinkup:

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Hoping to be there all things going well with work... massive contract gone to s**t and we are just over 2 weeks in... yeeaahh not pretty.

In that sence, maybe i need to go for a good blat hahaha

Hopefully the weather comes right, ment to be a mess tomorrow

[nzspokes]

:blink: :eek5:



On that thought, would it be better to run tyres slightly lower in pressure during the cold, wet winter months?



I wouldn't IMO. As long as you are on good tyres they are designed for rain. We can chat about this tonight.

[f2dz]

Dayum! Yeah, it's been crazy full on since last year for me...

Must make it this or next week to catch up with you before you're off to break some foreign girls' hearts!

I have no idea how I'm gonna get any chocolate sauce hearts on my coffee now once I'm bikeless over there for a few months. :(


Remember to bring warm gear as it will be starting to get cold in the country.

I must invest in some hand guards. Or cut up a milk bottle.

Tomorrow before we go we will have a little chat about lines and the 2 second rule.

Or invest in a concrete sandwich? Hehe

Weird how it's felt warmer lately actually. That cold snap that went up the country last month was an eye opener but Rob is right, definitely chillier the further out you get from the city.


When I was younger I preferred lines,
now I am older and wiser I prefer curves, can we talk about curves?

I'm a fan of curves myself and always up to talk about em, but I think we might alienate some of the female members of SASS.

Unless we're not talking about the same thing...

[Tigadee]

I must invest in some hand guards. Or cut up a milk bottle.


Or invest in a concrete sandwich? Hehe

I reckon Spokes should of cut an orange traffic cone in half and fix it on as hi-vis hand guards. :laugh:

[nzspokes]

I reckon Spokes should of cut an orange traffic cone in half and fix it on as hi-vis hand guards. [emoji23]
Thats a legit idea.

[f2dz]

3 lights at the front of his bike + hivis handguards?

The making of the next death star in our midst?

[Tigadee]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltkr528WZ61qhgzf1o1_500.jpg


The making of the next death star in our midst?

Hard to find a replacement for that title... Maybe

[eldog]

Hard to find a replacement for that title... Maybe

Even Sis didn't notice there was 5 lights the other week :laugh: AWESOME
Just as well I didnt get the lights I ordered, there would be no one who could see.


f2dz: I have no idea how I'm gonna get any chocolate sauce hearts on my coffee now once I'm bikeless over there for a few months. :(

Bikeless not CHAPLESS :innocent:



f2dz: I'm a fan of curves myself and always up to talk about em, but I think we might alienate some of the female members of SASS.

f2dz: Unless we're not talking about the same thing...

could be, everyone else talks about corners - there are corners on a cube sharp corners, I like curves better
Maybe you are thinking of y=x^4-x^2 type curves or splines - anyway see you next week .... maybe... not sure just yet - waiting for my orders:facepalm:


NZSPOKES: I wouldn't IMO. As long as you are on good tyres they are designed for rain. We can chat about this tonight

The tyres maybe designed to get rid of water, but I was thinking about the COLD - the small bikes tyres just don't WARM up in the winter as I remember from last year

Your bigger/heavier bikes would be no problem, just need to check tyre temp when you get home tonight I guess

Higher Tyre temp more GRIP - is my thinking esp for lighter bikes and lightweight riders :shutup:

[f2dz]

Anyone head out last night? Wasn't feeling too flash so I just went home and had an early one.

Hopefully I'll make it next week, which might be my last.. :(

[bawked]

Will have come next week if it's your last man, will get a wof for the Honda this weekend.


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[nzspokes]

Anyone head out last night? Wasn't feeling too flash so I just went home and had an early one.

Hopefully I'll make it next week, which might be my last.. :(
The hardcore rode. Twas a wet and wild night but we all made it through. ...

To the pub for a coffee.

[f2dz]

Will have come next week if it's your last man, will get a wof for the Honda this weekend.

Sweet, be good to go for a ride. If it turns out I'm bikeless by then I might just show up to the start or the pub in ma cage.

Not actually leaving the country until the end of the month.

[nzspokes]

Sweet, be good to go for a ride. If it turns out I'm bikeless by then I might just show up to the start or the pub in ma cage.

Not actually leaving the country until the end of the month.
Plenty of spare pillion seats.

[f2dz]

Plenty of spare pillion seats.

I probably weigh a bit more than your usual pillion though.. :sweatdrop

But perhaps I'd take someone up on that. Only pillioned once before and it scared the shit outta me.

[Kartik]

Anyone head out last night? Wasn't feeling too flash so I just went home and had an early one.

Hopefully I'll make it next week, which might be my last.. :(
I'll also try to make it next week. Hopefully should be free next Tuesday evening.

[eldog]

Sweet, be good to go for a ride. If it turns out I'm bikeless by then I might just show up to the start or the pub in ma CHAPS.

Fixed that for ya.

Take it easy. Have a great time over there.:headbang::niceone:

[eldog]

I probably weigh a bit more than your usual pillion though.. :sweatdrop

But perhaps I'd take someone up on that. Only pillioned once before and it scared the shit outta me.

I went on SPOKES bike (fat bastard I am)
Wasnt scared one little bit. Only worried about if i got cramp mid corner, but i neednt have worried, had a blast. RECOMMENDED AT LEAST ONCE in your lifetime :cool:

[Tigadee]

Anyone head out last night? Wasn't feeling too flash so I just went home and had an early one.
Hopefully I'll make it next week, which might be my last.. :(

Ah, I turned up at the pub at least hoping to catch you there, but no chocolate hearts, no chapless F2dz... :facepalm: Just Sis, Spokes, Sharry, Kiwi-on-wheels and Granda.

:blink: What a disappointment. Good laughs at your expense though, which was compensation enough. ;)


I probably weigh a bit more than your usual pillion though..

Yes, yes, we know someone's been working out... Real subtle :whistle:

http://slodive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/trey-songz-tattoo/shirtless-trey-songz.jpg

"Oh sorry, did my guns bump into you? Poke your eyes out? Sorry..." :killingme

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins ©! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[f2dz]

I'll also try to make it next week. Hopefully should be free next Tuesday evening.

Sweet, be good to catch up with you again man!


Fixed that for ya.

Take it easy. Have a great time over there.:headbang::niceone:

At this point I can't even remember how that was started, but boy I'm never gonna live that one down. I might just buy a pair over there just to spite you all.


Ah, I turned up at the pub at least hoping to catch you there, but no chocolate hearts, no chapless F2dz... :facepalm: Just Sis, Spokes, Sharry, Kiwi-on-wheels and Granda.

:blink: What a disappointment. Good laughs at your expense though, which was compensation enough. ;)



Yes, yes, we know someone's been working out... Real subtle :whistle:

http://slodive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/trey-songz-tattoo/shirtless-trey-songz.jpg

"Oh sorry, did my guns bump into you? Poke your eyes out? Sorry..." :killingme

Bahaha, sounds like someone's jealous that I don't wanna pillion on his bike.

With the amount of interest I've had on the bike so far I'm guessing I'll still have it next Tuesday, so fingers crossed the weather gods give us no rain.

[eldog]

Bahaha, sounds like someone's jealous that I don't wanna pillion on his bike.

if your referring to me, cant pillion - too much POWER :crazy: you'd fall off
and with me on it would exceed the weight limit :scooter: - sorry its a one man bike .

I am sure there are a couple(2) of fellow SASS riders who would be glad to pillion a fellow SASS member behind you or in front iykwim

oops I might have gone too far

[nzspokes]

For those that helped out with the CBR600 strip down, that project will be back underway in a few weeks. The Hyosung is being put back to road worthy state then it will be sold. Then I can focus on the CBR.

I may get a sandblaster and try to strip it myself. Not so sure on powder coating now as I may need to make some frame changes along the way of the build. I wouldnt mind getting some of the steel parts made in alloy to reduce weight.

[eldog]

For those that helped out with the CBR600 strip down, that project will be back underway in a few weeks. The Hyosung is being put back to road worthy state then it will be sold. Then I can focus on the CBR.

I may get a sandblaster and try to strip it myself. Not so sure on powder coating now as I may need to make some frame changes along the way of the build. I wouldnt mind getting some of the steel parts made in alloy to reduce weight.

Hyosung - good move

I would be interested in CBR project.

Clean it, re install it, making changes
re strip, blast and paint/powder coat
re assemble

would be the best way - but its upto you.

consider strength of steel versus alli and wear factor

In a few weeks I will have sorted a few more of my own projects - some I have already completed, its been an interesting year so far.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

aahh nzspokes, ment to mention earlier but just remembered, your stop light and number plate light was doing some funky flickering on tyesday night. whole unit was flashing

[nzspokes]

aahh nzspokes, ment to mention earlier but just remembered, your stop light and number plate light was doing some funky flickering on tyesday night. whole unit was flashing

Yeah I know. Was one of my jobs for this weekend. Along with refitting all the under house insulation that the dog pulled down. Then Board up under the house so he cant do it again. Then replace the VTRs petcock valve diaphram, finish rebuilding the hyosung and attend a prize giving with the kids.

Didnt quite make it to the tail light, its a duff number plate LED bulb.

Oh and fire a staple from the staple gun through my finger. Felt it hit bone.

[eldog]

Didnt quite make it to the tail light, its a duff number plate LED bulb.

Oh and fire a staple from the staple gun through my finger. Felt it hit bone.

led bulb? cycletreads have some nice ones

at least staple didnt hit electrical wiring that would have been a buzz:devil2:

[nzspokes]

led bulb? cycletreads have some nice ones

at least staple didnt hit electrical wiring that would have been a buzz:devil2:

Meh, not a fan of LED replacement bulbs. Will go back to a normal one.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Staple gun? Yeowch.... been there before, not plesant

[Tigadee]

Oh and fire a staple from the staple gun through my finger. Felt it hit bone.

Yeow-uch! :shit:

[caseye]

Yeow-uch! :shit:

Pussies, try it with a gas finishing gun, through two fingers, sterilised Vice grips in the end, poor bloody guy he nearly fainted when it finally came out.

[nzspokes]

Pussies, try it with a gas finishing gun, through two fingers, sterilised Vice grips in the end, poor bloody guy he nearly fainted when it finally came out.

Well if it makes me look better I kept working untill it was coffee time as I figured with the staple in it was closed.

[nzspokes]

So who is along tomorrow night?

Sharry wont be along but I will be. Anybody wanting a try as a pillion can try it out.

My tail light is fixed. Stupid LED bulbs. Now trying to find some silver reflective tape.

Still need handguards.

[eldog]

Well if it makes me look better I kept working untill it was coffee time as I figured with the staple in it was closed.
didnt you work till you were finished. LOL

at least your OK, hope its not the clutch finger:(

[granda]

Im there as always. Not packing bike gear till moneys in bank and i have a new home. Not sure about the vl though. Need to find a hole for it somewhere. Maybe as a trade
Lol.

[Kartik]

I should also be there tonight. [emoji1]

[f2dz]

I'm hoping to be there also.

This will most likely be my last SASS session. I was contemplating coming to the next one too but I think I should probably reserve that time for some actual planning + tidying up of the rest of the crap I gotta sort out.

Fingers crossed this weather stays.

[f2dz]

Oh, and if someone just so happens to be after a black 2007 GSXR 750 I might just have one.

Special discout for SASS attendees. Might even throw in a pair of chaps.

[Rikard]

Hoping to come along for my first SASS


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[Tigadee]

Looking good for me to be there tonight. See you all there, aSASSins ©!

[granda]

Be great to have you along. The more the better

[xXGIBBOXx]

I'm coming , just running a bit late

[eldog]

I'm coming , just running a bit late
Running?:spanking:

[Maakz]

Hey yáll, sorry I couldn't be there tonight esp in lieu of this being f2dz last SASS. Not a good time at the moment. Hope yáll had a great ride out and watering hole sesh. Hope to catch yous next time and if I don't see you again before you leave to break hearts in foreign lands f2dz, then safe journey happy adventures and stellar travels...catch you on KB intermittently then?

[aws]

Good to catch up with a few of you briefly tonight. Difficult to get there these days with kids sports practice on opposite sides of Rewa every Tuesday.

All the best Fraser. Make sure you post a few pics from the IoM when you get there.

Wasn't expecting to see you on TV tonight Spokes.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

Sorry guys, finally got permits through work and didnt get out of the office till gone 8... :-(

[Rikard]

Made it home safe, thanks for those that stuck around to help me out it was much appreciated. Bikes got a snapped gear shifter and a few small scrapes but surprising nothing else.


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[kiwi-on-wheels]

All the interesting stuff happens when i'm not there!!!!! Lol jokes. Shame to hear about the drop, hopefully a relatively cheep lesson learned?

[Rikard]

Will find out today. As far as I can tell just gotta order a few bits and bobs in and get my forks straightened.


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[nzspokes]

Hope everybody is feeling ok today.

[Tigadee]

Morning everyone,

I'm A-OK. Sore right knee and left elbow but no abrasions or even bruises. Thankfully the adrenaline rush and subsequent effects I was warned about never kicked in. :whew:

Guess I wasn't in that much of a shock - kinda saw it coming and know why it happened, plus so thankful I got off very light for a skid round the corner. T'was a dark night and I came into the corner too fast, counter-steered for dear life but didn't lean enough and flirted with the edge and loose sand/gravel...

Thanks for all the assist and kind concern. Definitely a trait of SASS, aye? ;)

Bike also got off light - broken side mirror, mangled throttle cable and return cable, windscreen snapped off but could be fixed back on, and the handlebar is bent. And that's it, nothing much else except for some scratches on the body! Get those replaced and have a mechanic look over the bike and it should be all good and back on the road... :clap:

Sorry to hear about your off, Rikard. I'd say "Imitation is the best form of flattery" but I think that holds little truth here! :laugh: Yeah, gotta watch out for that sand or loose gravel on the road, saw you slip once earlier in the ride on the same (good save BTW) and I also had the same experience a while back.

[nzspokes]

Morning everyone, I'm A-OK. Sore right knee and left elbow but no abrasions or even bruises. Thankfully the adrenaline rush and subsequent effects I was warned about never kicked in. :whew:

Guess I wasn't in that much of a shock - kinda saw it coming and know why it happened, plus so thankful I got off very light for a skid round the corner. T'was a dark night and I came into the corner too fast, counter-steered for dear life but didn't lean enough and flirted with the edge and loose sand/gravel...

Thanks for all the assist and kind concern. Definitely a trait of SASS, aye? ;)

Bike also got off light - broken side mirror, mangled throttle cable and return cable, windscreen snapped off but could be fixed back on, and the handlebar is bent. And that's it, nothing much else except for some scratches on the body! Get those replaced and have a mechanic look over the bike and it should be all good and back on the road... :clap:

Sorry to hear about your off, Rikard. I'd say "Imitation is the best form of flattery" but I think that holds little truth here! :laugh:

Im sure Motoone has the same handlebar as yours hanging up on his wall.

[Tigadee]

Im sure Motoone has the same handlebar as yours hanging up on his wall.

And all the other bits too, I'm sure... He can have my current handlebar up on his wall as a trophy if he wants it. :lol:

[f2dz]

Hey yáll, sorry I couldn't be there tonight esp in lieu of this being f2dz last SASS. Not a good time at the moment. Hope yáll had a great ride out and watering hole sesh. Hope to catch yous next time and if I don't see you again before you leave to break hearts in foreign lands f2dz, then safe journey happy adventures and stellar travels...catch you on KB intermittently then?

Thanks Maakz, yep I'll still be lurkin around here. Might see you/ignore you in the CBD before I actually leave in a couple weeks. :P


Good to catch up with a few of you briefly tonight. Difficult to get there these days with kids sports practice on opposite sides of Rewa every Tuesday.

All the best Fraser. Make sure you post a few pics from the IoM when you get there.

Wasn't expecting to see you on TV tonight Spokes.

Thanks mate, real nice of you to come out last night - appreciate it.

Spokes was on TV??


Made it home safe, thanks for those that stuck around to help me out it was much appreciated. Bikes got a snapped gear shifter and a few small scrapes but surprising nothing else.

Glad you made it home man, a shame about the bike but main thing is that you're okay. Bikes are easily replaceable. Hope you make it along to the next SASS - they're not always that eventful!

Also glad to hear you made it home safe, Tig. Hope you didn't get too much of a talking to by the wifey.

[Tigadee]

Glad you made it home man, a shame about the bike but main thing is that you're okay. Bikes are easily replaceable. Hope you make it along to the next SASS - they're not always that eventful!

Shit no! But how else were we to make it a last session for you to remember? :rolleyes:


Also glad to hear you made it home safe, Tig. Hope you didn't get too much of a talking to by the wifey.

She thinks I dropped the bike... ... ... ... Shhhhhhh! :nya:

Y'know, things always look worse than they actually are?

[f2dz]

She thinks I dropped the bike... ... ... ... Shhhhhhh! :nya:

Ah yes, the foundation to any successful marriage - lying.

:lol:

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins ©! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[Tigadee]

Ah yes, the foundation to any successful marriage - lying.

Well, she came to the conclusion herself - because I DID drop the bike (stationary) last Friday night (another dark - and stormy - night that was too) on an inclined wet slippery car park...

So I didn't lie. Just didn't (have to) mention this off.

[Big Dog]

So, not lying. Merely controlling the context of the truth?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Tigadee]

Better half-truth than a ban on riding forever... What choice do you think I made? :shifty:

[Big Dog]

Lol, never been a choice I have had to make.
Every woman I have ever dated including the one I married wouldn't tolerate me without a bike.
It is not a coincidence that all my shortest relationships where when I only had a car.
No secrets helps.
Being honest about what I get out of riding and what I do to minimise the risks is the bulk of why no woman other than my mother has ever tried to stop me.
Positive reinforcement by way of my better moods and more assistance with chores on riding days does the rest. Pretty sure that would come to an abrupt end if I started lying about the circumstances of damage.

Oops slight lie there. One woman tried to suggest a motorcycle was not befitting a man in her company. I think she was quite surprised to find she was no longer in my company.

I gave up riding for six years because I couldn't afford both and I needed a car.
After 6 years of constant depression and alienating most of the people who mattered to me I got another bike.
I still get bouts of depression. But that is much more manageable than constant.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

I am not suggesting a bike is more important than a human. I am suggesting to give yourself fully to another you must first know who you are and be that person.

If they matter they don't mind.
If they mind they don't matter.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Tigadee]

Fair enough but what works for you won't likely work for me. I'd rather peace in the household, me still riding and no major harm to anyone, so win-win.

If I tried to explain that I'd had a skid down the road, the bike will be gone, I'd be miserable and would probably never hear the end of it. If I'd broken bones or anything serious, I wouldn't mind coming clean - might even give up riding myself.

But not for a few scratches and small broken parts (on the bike) and hardly any injuries. I consider myself very lucky to have come out of it unscathed - it could've been much worse. That would still be scant consolation for the Missus. She knows something went wrong anyway... Let's leave it at that.

"It's alright, honey, I should have had broken bones and lost skin but I'm fine! So see, riding motorcycles isn't so scary! Don't worry!" ... Yeah right. :eek:

[nzspokes]

It would seem Sass has moved on to marital advice. :woohoo:

Glad everybody is ok.

Next week as Peter is the trained guy I vote he gives a lecture on accident scene management.

[caseye]

Just glad that there wasn't two SASS riders down last night. Pleased that the both of you are OK, lessons leaned?
Yes I'm asking, were there lessons learned?
Best thing you two can do is talk this all the way out with your ride mates and of course the cock heads here on KB who WILL deride you for making errors.
Don't worry about them, make sure your fellow riders understand fully what happened and know how to avoid doing it themselves.
World wouldn't be the same without me ol mate TIG.
Need space, raised bike platform, tools and a bit of fuck knows etc , let me know, either of you.

[Rikard]

Yes lesson learned, avoid gravel and have your headlight adjusted properly. Didn't see the gravel on the road, flicked the bike, went straight down.

Thanks for the offer caseye. At this stage I should be fine. Just need to get my hands on a new shift lever and rod. Not sure how long that will take but I'd love to be up and running if not by the weekend then at least by the next week.

Thanks again for the support guys. Absolutely gutted to have dropped my bike so soon after picking it up but at least there wasn't too much damage and I was able to walk away uninjured.


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[Sis]

We were all affected by what happened on Tuesday night. And it will have an effect on our riding.
The trick is to recognise it and take action to mitigate the issues.

google search for the particular issues you might feel you want to brush up on. There might be something we can practise next Tuesday.

I plan on bringing some material (reading material) on accident scenes and management next Tuesday.

[Tigadee]

Just glad that there wasn't two SASS riders down last night. Pleased that the both of you are OK, lessons leaned?
Yes I'm asking, were there lessons learned?
World wouldn't be the same without me ol mate TIG.

I’m good, thanks. I saw it coming and know why it happened and am bloody lucky I got off so lightly. Overcooked the corner and came in too fast - counter-steered for dear life but I figure I didn’t lean enough since I could feel the bike not tipping in fast enough and ended up too close to the edge and hit the sand/gravel. Was too dark to see round the corner too and misjudged how tight it was.

Bitch of a thing to happen but I could still ride the bike home and only have a sore right knee and left elbow (and those are mostly 98% good now). Knee pad and textile took the brunt of my landing and so yeah, am very lucky...

Bent handlebar, broken side mirror, broken front brake lever, munted throttle cables, bent rear brake lever, scratches to some of the body and engine covers... that seems to be the extent of the damage to the bike. *whew* Good old Honda quality, aye?

[Tigadee]

Irony of it is that I was doing so well in the car park exercises, rode confidently through the roadworks and earlier dark corners of the Hunuas and was enjoying my ride... :facepalm:

Then again, after so many months away from SASS and the open road, I should've taken it easy - especially with some difficulty seeing in the dark.

[kiwi-on-wheels]

I've basically stopped riding in the dark atm... headlight angle adjusters have corroded solid so i'm getting some wd40 into it trying to loosen it all up. Good to know everyone is ok and its only metal and pride thats damaged

[eldog]

I plan on bringing some material (reading material) on accident scenes and management next Tuesday.

On that note does anyone have any suggestions what we should do/carry/have/training regarding incident/accidents.

not necessarily mbike incident/accidents.

- came across car accident last week :brick:made me think about it....

[eldog]

Irony of it is that I was doing so well in the car park exercises, rode confidently through the roadworks and earlier dark corners of the Hunuas and was enjoying my ride... :facepalm:

Then again, after so many months away from SASS and the open road, I should've taken it easy - especially with some difficulty seeing in the dark.

Pride before a fall.

I had this problem with mine, good frame of mind, went thru 3 very slippery corners, (1-oil, 1-pine needles, 1 car pulled out) all just prior to my accident corner.
just a bit too much over confidence that I had done the right thing on those corners so I was 'safe'.
just didn't see the change in surface road condition mid corner(road works stopped mid corner:brick:).


Most important, you are OK. and I have learnt from your post to be more careful esp in the dark.

[nzspokes]

On that note does anyone have any suggestions what we should do/carry/have/training regarding incident/accidents.

not necessarily mbike incident/accidents.

- came across car accident last week :brick:made me think about it....

This is a good point and will be putting some thought into it. I will be looking into first aid kits and gear to carry.

[Big Dog]

On that note does anyone have any suggestions what we should do/carry/have/training regarding incident/accidents.

not necessarily mbike incident/accidents.

- came across car accident last week :brick:made me think about it....

At a minimum i have done a first aid course at least once every 5 years for the last 28 years. Sometimes more often for work or relating to some hobby or other.
I don't carry a kit any more because I have thrown out 100's of dollars of mouldy or water damaged kit and never needed it in the the 20+ road accidents I have stopped for. Usually there is a better equipped car on scene before it gets to anything a bike size kit can cope with.

Knowledge is the set of keys you must carry:
Understand how to manage a scene.
Understand how to report an accident for the best outcome.
Know when, why and how to remove a helmet. Getting this wrong can end a life or change it significantly.
Know some first aid and how to think outside the box. When someone is bleeding to death they need you to stop the bleeding far more than they need you to have the right size bandage.

Fortunately I have never stopped on the road for a fatality, excluding major medical emergencies. 2 strokes and a heart attack.
Luckily: Most there has been a medical professional (either off duty or in a big white van) on the scene before I have finished securing it.

If you are prepared it is not a scary or traumatic thing. It kept me awake for weeks the first stroke, I was 13. So I did every discounted or free first aid course I could.
Road oriented AA ones through school, home and child oriented ones through my brothers play centre etc etcetera.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

This is a good point and will be putting some thought into it. I will be looking into first aid kits and gear to carry.

Recommended by St. John's last time I asked. 5years ago.
Blunt scissors.
Sharp knife.
I elasticised bandage
1 non elastic bandage
1 triangle bandage.
5 large gauze.
1 roll sports tape
1 roll surgical tape
Box of plasters.
Mouth to mouth dam.
5 pairs of non latex surgical gloves.
Med and large ziplock bags.
CPR card.

Everything can be improvised but that list will make that easier.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[nzspokes]

Recommended by St. John's last time I asked. 5years ago.
Blunt scissors.
Sharp knife.
I elasticised bandage
1 non elastic bandage
1 triangle bandage.
5 large gauze.
1 roll sports tape
1 roll surgical tape
Box of plasters.
Mouth to mouth dam.
5 pairs of non latex surgical gloves.
Med and large ziplock bags.
CPR card.

Everything can be improvised but that list will make that easier.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

I was thinking more for fixing a bike. Cable ties, more tools etc.

I dont know enough about the first aid to give decent information but we do have a trained rider that comes along.

[granda]

Having recently done both 1st aid and the ASMA ( motorcycle orientated) courses. There is little we untrained can do except as stated. Secure scene. Ascertain number and severity of injuries and provide emergancy services with clear and concise details and most importantly exact location
Basic ABC first aid is all we will be able to do along with hopefully stabilising the casualties
I highly recommend those that can do an ASMA and 1st aid course. 2 weeks after i did mine i came accross a three car prang
Everyone running round like headless chooks on their phones but no one with the injured
Even had 1 of the munted cars with people inside running. I was able to contain, assess and react calmly. Lets enjoy our riding but further arm our competency by knowledge and confidence
Well put Big Dog

[eldog]

I was thinking more for fixing a bike. Cable ties, more tools etc.

I dont know enough about the first aid to give decent information but we do have a trained rider that comes along.

I was thinking of both types

fixing SOMEONE (and that might include me) - well maybe not fixing, getting under control

AND

fixing bike bike(car) or otherwise (dependant on whats wrong)

might look at taking first aid course - would help at work too

otherwise it will be the MCoy approach "He's dead Jim"

[eldog]

1st aid and the ASMA ( motorcycle orientated) courses.

you will have to give us more details/suggestions/information

in-for-ma-tion - that will be easier for you Granda:banana: since your moving down south of the bombays (have you applied for your akl day entry visa?)

[nzspokes]

Dont worry, Gremlin will be along soon to tell us what to take. Mind you he has more storage than most.

[nzspokes]

Everybody stop worring, I have fixed the tail light. Some clown had put red LED bulbs in which are for a clear lens.

Normal bulbs now fitted.

[Gremlin]

Remember that unless you're trained, you could do more damage than save. I've also attended first aid courses due to being a flag marshal, but some basics:

D Danger, This is the scene. Try to minimise any further danger (reduce if possible), traffic management, no point trying to help someone at the risk of being run over. Nor can you help someone if you're in trouble
R Response. Look for a response from the patient (assuming something more than minor)
S Send Help. The sooner they're on the way, the better. You need the location, remember to try and speak calmly on the phone... shouting and screaming don't help. Description of the incident.

More medical side
A Airways. Clear obstacles, angle head (if appropriate)
B Breathing
C Compression - CPR etc

I carry a PLB for any decent ride, small first aid kit on some bigger or specific ones. Ultimately, it depends on the incident. First on scene of a fatal I couldn't get into the car, it was half off a bank etc, so focussed on getting help, managing traffic etc. It was only when I went to the cop car to give a statement I took stock, and there's Westpac landing in the field, 2-3 ambulances, a couple of fire trucks and 8-10 cop cars that I realised it was a reasonably major one...

[eldog]

Remember that unless you're trained, you could do more damage than save. I've also attended first aid courses due to being a flag marshal, but some basics:

D Danger, This is the scene. Try to minimise any further danger (reduce if possible), traffic management, no point trying to help someone at the risk of being run over. Nor can you help someone if you're in trouble
R Response. Look for a response from the patient (assuming something more than minor)
S Send Help. The sooner they're on the way, the better. You need the location, remember to try and speak calmly on the phone... shouting and screaming don't help. Description of the incident.

More medical side
A Airways. Clear obstacles, angle head (if appropriate)
B Breathing
C Compression - CPR etc

I carry a PLB for any decent ride, small first aid kit on some bigger or specific ones. Ultimately, it depends on the incident. At a fatal I couldn't get into the car, it was half off a bank etc, so focussed on getting help, managing traffic etc. It was only when I went to the cop car to give a statement I took stock, and there's Westpac landing in the field, 2-3 ambulances, a couple of fire trucks and 8-10 cop cars that I realised it was a reasonably major one...


I am not worrying, if we know the basics then that is a good start.
Its knowing what stupid things NOT to do which can be more important - like do we really need to take helmet off?
What circumstances would make it absolutely necessary.
where to park bikes, should we leave lights on? or Hazards ?

Location - another good reason to have GPS and know how to use it. Latitude/longitude etc. Saved a mate of mine who had an accident out in the sticks.

thanks Gremlin

[eldog]

Everybody stop worring, I have fixed the tail light. Some clown had put red LED bulbs in which are for a clear lens.

Normal bulbs now fitted.

I wasn't worrying about your light, some people might have been.....

[Gremlin]

I am not worrying, if we know the basics then that is a good start.
Its knowing what stupid things NOT to do which can be more important - like do we really need to take helmet off?
What circumstances would make it absolutely necessary.
where to park bikes, should we leave lights on? or Hazards ?

Location - another good reason to have GPS and know how to use it. Latitude/longitude etc. Saved a mate of mine who had an accident out in the sticks.

thanks Gremlin
Do NOT remove the helmet off unless you have been trained in the 2 person technique. Even at the track, we do not remove helmets. A rider can remove their own helmet, you can loosen the strap, but only they remove the helmet (or medical staff) as they can obviously feel if there is an issue. Helmets also do a really good job of keeping things together in bad incidents.

You park your bike/car for maximum benefit, least risk. ie, I might park mine a short distance from the accident in curvy roads to give more warning to approaching vehicles, or in the middle of the lane just before the incident (providing there is good visibility approaching the scene), hazards if you have them. This is mainly while you're trying to secure the scene, send people both ways to warn traffic etc. The more warning people get, the better (obviously not 1km before the scene though).

Also forgot, the PLB is actually in a red bag, I often note to anyone riding with me on trips that I'm carrying it, where it is etc. In that bag is a tiny first aid kit, emergency blanket and the PLB. Then I have a green larger first aid kit that I put in for certain stuff.

[nzspokes]

Remember that unless you're trained, you could do more damage than save.

Agree. Ive not been trained so dont go there.

Hope to get some soon for work.

Good thing is to tell people if you have bad allergies.

By the way Im allergic to bees.

[eldog]

Do NOT remove the helmet off unless you have been trained in the 2 person technique. Even at the track, we do not remove helmets. A rider can remove their own helmet, you can loosen the strap, but only they remove the helmet (or medical staff) as they can obviously feel if there is an issue. Helmets also do a really good job of keeping things together in bad incidents.

You park your bike/car for maximum benefit, least risk. ie, I might park mine a short distance from the accident in curvy roads to give more warning to approaching vehicles, or in the middle of the lane just before the incident (providing there is good visibility approaching the scene), hazards if you have them. This is mainly while you're trying to secure the scene, send people both ways to warn traffic etc. The more warning people get, the better (obviously not 1km before the scene though).

Also forgot, the PLB is actually in a red bag, I often note to anyone riding with me on trips that I'm carrying it, where it is etc. In that bag is a tiny first aid kit, emergency blanket and the PLB. Then I have a green larger first aid kit that I put in for certain stuff.

Helmet - loosen strap only - simple

middle of lane - would depend, last accident I arrived at would have been a bastard, but I get the gist - visibility so arriving vehicles can see somethings up but not so that emergency vehicles cant get through

PLB - Personal Locator Beacon, hope I ant colour blind.

Would it be a good idea to have a sticky (or on the Wiki) about 'suggested' stuff to take and the type of things to think about when at an accident scene.
It shouldn't be hidden away, but just the basics like those placed here so people will read and maybe remember

[eldog]

Dont worry, Gremlin will be along soon to tell us what to take. Mind you he has more storage than most.

before I go riding again, I want to setup a bag or such like with 2 small kits, one for the bike, one for first aid.

[Gremlin]

Swamp people with too much information, and it's too confusing when you're in the thick of it. You do what you can, and stick to the core principles, expanding as you feel comfortable.

Until you've been to a few and got comfortable, most tend to panic to a degree. The first thing you need to do is start thinking. What danger am I in, how do I stop further danger/incident escalating and how do I reduce the existing danger.

Also, if a rider has gone down, and the helmet has been removed, but they're being carted off to hospital, the helmet must go with them. This helps staff, as they can examine the helmet for damage etc.

[eldog]

Swamp people with too much information, and it's too confusing when you're in the thick of it. You do what you can, and stick to the core principles, expanding as you feel comfortable.

Until you've been to a few and got comfortable, most tend to panic to a degree. The first thing you need to do is start thinking. What danger am I in, how do I stop further danger/incident escalating and how do I reduce the existing danger.

Also, if a rider has gone down, and the helmet has been removed, but they're being carted off to hospital, the helmet must go with them. This helps staff, as they can examine the helmet for damage etc.

just want basics - not information overload

took me a sec to see why they needed the helmet but that's a really good idea. :Punk:

[Gremlin]

just want basics - not information overload
Level of equipment varies with a person's capability.

Not everyone carries a ramp in their vehicle at all times... but I do :laugh: Then again, mine is setup to take two motorbikes pretty much all the time. Also has tie downs, air compressor, basic tools etc

[kiwi-on-wheels]

having outdoor first aid, and regular first aid stuff for work helps. i'm qualified and will be as long as i'm employed as a sparky :P one of the requirements.

in the training they'll tell you that doing something is better than doing nothing, and with the way NZ is set up in reguards to legal action, it really doesnt matter what you do, so long as you do something. even if it's ring 111, direct traffic, hell just hold an umbrella.

DRSABC is a good one to remember
and if they arent breathing, 30 to 2, no matter who (30 compressions 2 breaths)in line with bottom of armpits.

and probably one of the most important things, dont move them if you dont need to

[nzspokes]

Tigadee is the most prepared, he brings spare undies. :blink:

[Big Dog]

Level of equipment varies with a person's capability.

Not everyone carries a ramp in their vehicle at all times... but I do :laugh: Then again, mine is setup to take two motorbikes pretty much all the time. Also has tie downs, air compressor, basic tools etc

Them bmws must be bigger than they look.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[aws]

5000 posts woohoo!