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Tigadee
19th January 2015, 13:30
Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS
WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.
Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.
WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.
MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm
START ride -----------------------------> 7pm
FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)
SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish
Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.
Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:
Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.
Tigadee
19th January 2015, 13:33
I'm quite sure I'll be there tomorrow, folks, with my different looking horney Black Beauty! See you there, aSASSins!
Going for my learners today(monday), it will be my first time on public main roads so not sure if i'll be confident enough to ride out to south.
Maybe after I get a bit more experience in on main roads with cagers around me, also fucked up my finger so not sure if i'll be able to use the clutch
Good luck and join us for SASS, whatever the outcome. You'll get better with SASS... :yes:
But it is quieter now.
Awwwww... :(
jeeron
19th January 2015, 13:37
Whereabouts are you coming from aziz? Might be able to pick you up if you want
Tigadee
19th January 2015, 14:41
Whereabouts are you coming from aziz? Might be able to pick you up if you want
:yes: If coming through SW20, I can meet and bring you in, Aziz.
Azizthetics
19th January 2015, 14:45
Good luck today Aziz. Let us know if you'd like an escort out South or to SASS if ur keen, someone might be able to meet ya and you could shadow them to the rendezvous point. Hope ur finger heels fast, bugga! How'd ya manage that? Now that's bloody inconvenient isn't it!
At piha
Rugby Ball
Friend told me to go long
Went long
Failed at catching
Finger dislocated I think.
Hopefully i'll be able to make it next week.
My bike doesn't have a fuel gauge so I have to continually open up the tank and check... Or maybe it does have one and I just can't find (?) lol
Whereabouts are you coming from aziz? Might be able to pick you up if you want
Also coming from West Auckland, Kelston, New Lynn Area
Tigadee
19th January 2015, 15:30
Also coming from West Auckland, Kelston, New Lynn Area
We can meet up at the BP in Mangere Bridge or Mangere Bridge Village and go on from there next week if you want... :yes:
aws
19th January 2015, 15:52
My bike doesn't have a fuel gauge so I have to continually open up the tank and check... Or maybe it does have one and I just can't find (?) lol
Don't know about Keeway, but old school bikes never had a fuel gauge - just a fuel tap to switch between normal and reserve - often on the left hand side below the tank. Run it till it splutters, then switch over to reserve - then you have about 30 or 40 ks to full up. Also used the trip meter to keep track of how far I'd gone on each tank. Still do this.
I used to hate it when my old TZR spluttered out at the lights. It had a vacuum fuel tap, so I'd have to kick it over heaps to pull enough fuel back through the carbies - usually with other traffic waiting to get going behind me :mad: Not so bad if I was moving with enough speed to draw it thru before it stopped (and that's without grabbing the clutch). Had to know exactly where the tap was for a quick switch in those days!
nzspokes
19th January 2015, 16:21
At piha
Rugby Ball
Friend told me to go long
Went long
Failed at catching
Finger dislocated I think.
Hopefully i'll be able to make it next week.
My bike doesn't have a fuel gauge so I have to continually open up the tank and check... Or maybe it does have one and I just can't find (?) lol
Also coming from West Auckland, Kelston, New Lynn Area
Just fill it when you come over, should have the range for that.
Im In Glen Eden and sometimes cut back home to pick up my pillion before coming back out. You can tag along with us.
Azizthetics
19th January 2015, 17:11
Just fill it when you come over, should have the range for that.
Im In Glen Eden and sometimes cut back home to pick up my pillion before coming back out. You can tag along with us.
Learners is booked for tomorrow as it was full today.
Can't move the finger so no riding for at least a week I'm guessing. Will most likely hit you up for next weeks SASS.
At least i'll have my learners sorted though!
Sis
19th January 2015, 18:00
Balls are packed on the bike.
Remember to bring your sunnies as my bike is clean now.:wings:
The bling might catch you out.
nzspokes
19th January 2015, 18:45
Learners is booked for tomorrow as it was full today.
Can't move the finger so no riding for at least a week I'm guessing. Will most likely hit you up for next weeks SASS.
At least i'll have my learners sorted though!
Well you will need some riding before coming out on Sass, If you have not ridden at all on the roads it would be a long night for you. From your place and back would be getting up to 200ks.
Again happy to head out before if we can fit it in.
nzspokes
19th January 2015, 18:49
How did Teawamutu fang go?
It was interesting and fun. On the way down my throttle suck wide open overtaking a 4x4 and on the way home I got hit in the face by a stone or very hard bug. Yes I didnt have my visor shut. On my way to a black eye I think....
Sis
19th January 2015, 20:14
It was interesting and fun. On the way down my throttle suck wide open overtaking a 4x4 and on the way home I got hit in the face by a stone or very hard bug. Yes I didnt have my visor shut. On my way to a black eye I think....
Sharon get you and the stone is a cover up?
Either way, you are very lucky.
nzspokes
19th January 2015, 20:25
Sharon get you and the stone is a cover up?
Either way, you are very lucky.
And more than a bit sore.:(
Bit of a fail on the hand gear shift on Sharons Hyobag. Think I need to buy a welder and learn to use it fast.
Sis
19th January 2015, 20:25
Going for my learners today(monday), it will be my first time on public main roads so not sure if i'll be confident enough to ride out to south.
Maybe after I get a bit more experience in on main roads with cagers around me, also fucked up my finger so not sure if i'll be able to use the clutch
Good Luck with the Learners.
Try and get some riding in. Easy enough in the evenings with these long summer nights. Anything is going to be good. Even just pootling around your neighbourhood. In fact keeping to roads that you know will help you gain confidence. It helps to keep doing the same roads over and over. Get as many kms under your belt as possible.At SASS, we can do up to 100 kms (at an easy pace) before getting to the carpark.
About the fuel, I have a fuel light that will give me warning but I don't rely on it. I know how many kms I can get out of a tank of fuel. SO before I even start SASS, I have done a little bit of maths in my head. Do I have enough to get thru SASS or do I top it up before we start? Such a habit now that I don't actively think it, I just "know".
And that is what SASS is all about. When you practise so much that it is instinctive and therefore if shit happens, you are thinking of the important things and the rest just happen.
Hope the finger heals and we see you at SASS soon.
Tigadee
20th January 2015, 15:06
:brick: Arrrgh! I've been ambushed by in-laws! :angry:
Won't be able to make it for the ride but will drop by later to the car park or pub if even later...:facepalm:
eldog
20th January 2015, 19:42
Anybody interested in a how to day again? Getting the Hyosung back on the road which needs throttle refitted, brakes bleed and the likes.
I would be interested. But date dependant.
jeeron
20th January 2015, 19:48
As requested a I'm home message. Fork already removed hopefully can get it done somewhere tomorrow
eldog
20th January 2015, 19:57
Azizthetics
Can't move the finger so no riding for at least a week I'm guessing.
Might be worth while going and seeing about it, just incase. That way you will get an ACC number - in case something else happens, expect 6-8 weeks of hitting that finger on EVERYTHING
[QUOTE=Sis;1130820011]Good Luck with the Learners.
Try and get some riding in. Easy enough in the evenings with these long summer nights. Anything is going to be good. Even just pootling around your neighbourhood. In fact keeping to roads that you know will help you gain confidence. It helps to keep doing the same roads over and over. Get as many kms under your belt as possible.At SASS, we can do up to 100 kms (at an easy pace) before getting to the carpark.[QUOTE]
Agree with everything Sis says, also think quality riding, not just running along a straight piece of road.
Practise, Practise, Practise (yeah I need to follow my own advice)
Slow speed stuff really helps you bond with the bike and get more comfortable with lean angles etc.
I think Sis meant to say, most SASS rides are about 100ks long, some are longer, some are shorter.
Most rides are upto 100 kph (motorway).
It isnt a race, its about being responsible for YOURSELF and how you feel comfortable.
Once you are comfortable about riding at or near 100kph, and try not to keep up, ride at your own pace, save yourself some stress. You will improve it will take time.
Some learn fast, others at another pace. The Guys and Gals at SASS will accomodate you, you just have to make yourself HEARD, speak up, dont feel afraid to ask or feel that you will look silly.
Everyone started somewhere.
I know I have been there done that(done all the wrong things).
YOUR RIDING IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY and BTW enjoy your riding. :niceone:
Sis
20th January 2015, 22:10
Great ride tonight. And trying something a little different. Carpark work half way through.
After the figure 8's, I bet you all found the corners easier. Having a bit of a play sharpens the brain.
And I found the link on you tube about the license plate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WErIq4Hd9zo
kiwi-on-wheels
20th January 2015, 22:24
Oh f**k!!! Lucky rider!!!
nzspokes
20th January 2015, 22:29
As requested a I'm home message. Fork already removed hopefully can get it done somewhere tomorrow
Cool, glad you made it ok.
Azizthetics
21st January 2015, 01:08
Azizthetics
Can't move the finger so no riding for at least a week I'm guessing.
Might be worth while going and seeing about it, just incase. That way you will get an ACC number - in case something else happens, expect 6-8 weeks of hitting that finger on EVERYTHING
[QUOTE=Sis;1130820011]Good Luck with the Learners.
Try and get some riding in. Easy enough in the evenings with these long summer nights. Anything is going to be good. Even just pootling around your neighbourhood. In fact keeping to roads that you know will help you gain confidence. It helps to keep doing the same roads over and over. Get as many kms under your belt as possible.At SASS, we can do up to 100 kms (at an easy pace) before getting to the carpark.[QUOTE]
Agree with everything Sis says, also think quality riding, not just running along a straight piece of road.
Practise, Practise, Practise (yeah I need to follow my own advice)
Slow speed stuff really helps you bond with the bike and get more comfortable with lean angles etc.
I think Sis meant to say, most SASS rides are about 100ks long, some are longer, some are shorter.
Most rides are upto 100 kph (motorway).
It isnt a race, its about being responsible for YOURSELF and how you feel comfortable.
Once you are comfortable about riding at or near 100kph, and try not to keep up, ride at your own pace, save yourself some stress. You will improve it will take time.
Some learn fast, others at another pace. The Guys and Gals at SASS will accomodate you, you just have to make yourself HEARD, speak up, dont feel afraid to ask or feel that you will look silly.
Everyone started somewhere.
I know I have been there done that(done all the wrong things).
YOUR RIDING IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY and BTW enjoy your riding. :niceone:
Went for a ride today, and I can operate the clutch with the other three fingers fine with no disability to my riding, I just need to sort out my learners and i'm all good.
Tigadee
21st January 2015, 07:29
Where were you guys last night? I went to the watering hole, and no bikes and no bikers there... :scratch:
8.45pm No one at pub
8.50pm No one at car park
9pm No one at pub again... :no:
f2dz
21st January 2015, 10:25
Where were you guys last night? I went to the watering hole, and no bikes and no bikers there... :scratch:
8.45pm No one at pub
8.50pm No one at car park
9pm No one at pub again... :no:
You were there too early for us. We only reached the pub close to 9.30 I think. We did our usual low speed practice out in the wops somewhere near Waiuku.
Tigadee
21st January 2015, 10:45
Ahhh, too bad... Oh well, catch you all next Tuesday then.:wait:
thehovel
21st January 2015, 11:10
[QUOTE=Azizthetics;1130819801]At piha
Rugby Ball
Friend told me to go long
Went long
Failed at catching
Finger dislocated I think.
Hopefully i'll be able to make it next week.
My bike doesn't have a fuel gauge so I have to continually open up the tank and check... Or maybe it does have one and I just can't find (?) lol
Old-school biking : Use your trip meter as a fuel gauge. Every bike you own one of the first rides you take is a fuel run. Gas the bike full, set the trip meter to "0", carry spare gas.
Bikes with a reserve
Ride until the bike runs out of gas. You can change to reserve before the bike stops (vacuum dependent taps take a long time to feed). Write down the Kms (yes write it down). Ride until the bike runs completely out of gas. write down the Kms.
If your bike has a fuel light
As above but you have to keep a close eye on the fuel light.
As SASS starts at a gas station( this is not an accident) fill the bike. Don't forget the trip meter every time you gas up and always gas to full. If cash is a problem it is a lot more worrying because you are working at the bottom of the tank.
In the early 90s bike makers made fuel reserve tanks and fuel lights give 50km at the most economic riding. I only trust it for 30km(bikes are BLOODY heavy to push) Regards Richard
flanders
21st January 2015, 13:39
Hi all, thanks for last night, I loved the ride!
Clearly I will have to spend some time on my left hand turning circles in my local car park!
(Hope you get the forks fixed ok J.)
Sis
21st January 2015, 18:25
Hi all, thanks for last night, I loved the ride!
Clearly I will have to spend some time on my left hand turning circles in my local car park!
(Hope you get the forks fixed ok J.)
We were talking last night about where you live and how we are going to have to see you home. :msn-wink:
Especially while the weather is good, we will do another Kaiaua ride one night. Gives us a good excuse:laugh::laugh:
Sis
21st January 2015, 18:28
(bikes are BLOODY heavy to push) Regards Richard
Aren't they.
Drop in and catch up with us if you find yourself in the area.
Maakz
21st January 2015, 18:32
Thought everyone did well on the figure 8s...Granda...you glide man. Made it look deceptively easy. Already knew Spokey & Sis were gonna do the biz. Nice to meet you Ollie & flanders. Bummer you had to gap it Moto Guzzi & Co-ah well, next week. :msn-wink:
nzspokes
21st January 2015, 20:12
Ok guys, If you have thought about doing a ART track day book in for the next one on the 15th of Feb. They are not getting the numbers they need to keep it viable and may not continue.
Couple of points to make. Its not racing. Nobody is allowed to cut you off in turns etc. Its very controlled. There is no mass start. They let you out in single file and in low numbers at a time. There is theory training and marshalls on the track at all times. Anybody behaves badly will be dealt with.
These are really very good and it would be a great shame if they are lost. Thread about it here, http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/172461-ART-Day-15-February-2015?highlight=15th
My call is you will learn more about riding and turns than you would in 5 years on the road. It does not matter what cc bike you ride as long as you are under 1000cc in the novice group.
For gear you need to have leather or textile that zips together and a back protector. This is for group 1 and 2. Above that its leather.
kiwi-on-wheels
21st January 2015, 20:41
have got this on my calender, need a few bits of overtime but definitely keen for the track time
The End
21st January 2015, 20:50
These are really very good and it would be a great shame if they are lost. Thread about it here, http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/172461-ART-Day-15-February-2015?highlight=15th
Definitely recommend this to anyone who hasn't been along before. Plenty of instructors and skilled riders to chat with and lots of teaching to take advantage of. Whether you've been riding 1 year or 10 years there's always something to learn.
Not to mention Hampton Downs is one heck of a fun track to ride :banana:
f2dz
22nd January 2015, 08:29
We were talking last night about where you live and how we are going to have to see you home. :msn-wink:
Especially while the weather is good, we will do another Kaiaua ride one night. Gives us a good excuse:laugh::laugh:
Think you're getting flanders here confused with the guy on the GPZ. Flanders was the other person on a dirty Honda. :P
Ok guys, If you have thought about doing a ART track day book in for the next one on the 15th of Feb. They are not getting the numbers they need to keep it viable and may not continue.
Hopefully they get the numbers. Would be a shame if they can't continue.
I'd go to the next one but I'm pinching ma pennies at the moment. Highly recommend for others who are considering it though, good fun.
eldog
22nd January 2015, 10:12
Sis - Think you're getting flanders here confused with the guy on the GPZ. Flanders was the other person on a dirty Honda. :P
deMENtia?:whistle: its what happens when your surrounded by too much Testosterone :nya:
flanders
22nd January 2015, 14:19
Think you're getting flanders here confused with the guy on the GPZ. Flanders was the other person on a dirty Honda. :P
Yep, I live in East Auckland not Orere Pt.
eldog
22nd January 2015, 17:46
Ok guys, If you have thought about doing a ART track day book in for the next one on the 15th of Feb. They are not getting the numbers they need to keep it viable and may not continue.
Couple of points to make. Its not racing. Nobody is allowed to cut you off in turns etc. Its very controlled. There is no mass start. They let you out in single file and in low numbers at a time. There is theory training and marshalls on the track at all times. Anybody behaves badly will be dealt with.
These are really very good and it would be a great shame if they are lost. Thread about it here, http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/172461-ART-Day-15-February-2015?highlight=15th
My call is you will learn more about riding and turns than you would in 5 years on the road. It does not matter what cc bike you ride as long as you are under 1000cc in the novice group.
For gear you need to have leather or textile that zips together and a back protector. This is for group 1 and 2. Above that its leather.
Spokes I just saw this, after my reply yesterday.
Seriously I wished you had put this up a few months back before things turned to custard for me.
its a much better explanation than what I got back then (I was otherwise occupied), oh well thems the brakes :facepalm:
I hope others give it a go.
nzspokes
22nd January 2015, 17:51
Spokes I just saw this, after my reply yesterday.
Seriously I wished you had put this up a few months back before things turned to custard for me.
its a much better explanation than what I got back then (I was otherwise occupied), oh well thems the brakes :facepalm:
I hope others give it a go.
Just go do it. Track surface is stunning, grip everywhere. Even in the wet. Its made to be grippy. You can try different lines and it doesnt matter as nothing is coming the other way to hit you. Some of the corners are wider than a motorway, 4 lane motorway.
Sis
22nd January 2015, 23:25
Yep, I live in East Auckland not Orere Pt.
What else do you expect, I am blonde after all.
Tigadee
23rd January 2015, 08:54
Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS
WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.
Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.
WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.
MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm
START ride -----------------------------> 7pm
FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)
SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish
Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.
Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:
Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.
eldog
23rd January 2015, 19:45
Spokes, made a decision about Track Day Feb 15, decided to go with original plan.
Booking some training with Phil at Riderskills.
I figure that I can improve my riding confidence and basic skills better this way at the moment. I have started again learning to ride.
This will fix up my skills and push me toward my full.
This is the same skill path I discussed with Phil when I did my restricted a few months back. Back then he and I both agreed I had to improve in some areas - and this required I did some on the road k's before I attempted this.
I might have to book a couple of sessions to iron out a few bugs.
Then I will book for my full test and following that after a few months (or earlier) I will do some training about riding a bigger bike.
Then it will be summer and the Xmas rush by then if the Track days are back and advertised earlier enough I will give them a go.
And yes I have been on a 4 lane road with no other cars etc and still been hit (a week ago) by something coming the other way (a starling direct hit in the shoulder-no doubt it didnt fly away) I was going at a fair rate of knots :innocent:
nzspokes
23rd January 2015, 19:49
I'd go to the next one but I'm pinching ma pennies at the moment. Highly recommend for others who are considering it though, good fun.
Go on, pry open that wallet and sign up. You can roll G3 this time.
I just found some more mid range.:shifty:
I just received a little bling.:shifty:
Next track day is game on.....:Punk:
nzspokes
23rd January 2015, 19:51
What else do you expect, I am blonde after all.
I thought that was grey? Going colour blind too? :wings:
I know your gunna kill me but its worth it. :shutup:
nzspokes
23rd January 2015, 19:55
Go on, pry open that wallet and sign up. You can roll G3 this time.
I just found some more mid range.:shifty:
I just received a little bling.:shifty:
Next track day is game on.....:Punk:
Oh and I need to find an good alloy welder, got bracing to fit. Muwahahahahahahaha
nzspokes
23rd January 2015, 19:57
Spokes, made a decision about Track Day Feb 15, decided to go with original plan.
Booking some training with Phil at Riderskills.
I figure that I can improve my riding confidence and basic skills better this way at the moment. I have started again learning to ride.
This will fix up my skills and push me toward my full.
This is the same skill path I discussed with Phil when I did my restricted a few months back. Back then he and I both agreed I had to improve in some areas - and this required I did some on the road k's before I attempted this.
I might have to book a couple of sessions to iron out a few bugs.
Then I will book for my full test and following that after a few months (or earlier) I will do some training about riding a bigger bike.
Then it will be summer and the Xmas rush by then if the Track days are back and advertised earlier enough I will give them a go.
And yes I have been on a 4 lane road with no other cars etc and still been hit (a week ago) by something coming the other way (a starling direct hit in the shoulder-no doubt it didnt fly away) I was going at a fair rate of knots :innocent:
All good. Tiz great fun.
I got a stone in the face last weekend, swelling only just going down.
eldog
23rd January 2015, 20:14
I thought that was grey? Going colour blind too? :wings:
I know your gunna kill me but its worth it. :shutup:
its bottle blonde mate, get it right.
shes got every excuse known to man, short, blonde, woman, age and riding (Shes VG) experience, harley rider and one hell of a sense of humour, we can never win... (we let her think so anyways):facepalm:
Spokes I may have saved your arse, but only just.
and oh yeah there's that vicious rumour that she's had her crack fixed:psst::bleh:
f2dz
24th January 2015, 22:41
Go on, pry open that wallet and sign up. You can roll G3 this time.
Would love to! You'll unfortunately lose your cameraman this time round. Although I'll think about stopping by. Might be able to borrow an SLR to get some good shots.
Oh and I need to find an good alloy welder, got bracing to fit. Muwahahahahahahaha
Uh oh. What crazy mods require this??
Spokes, made a decision about Track Day Feb 15, decided to go with original plan.
Booking some training with Phil at Riderskills.
I figure that I can improve my riding confidence and basic skills better this way at the moment. I have started learning to wheelie and drag knee
Fixed it for you.
eldog
24th January 2015, 23:32
Fixed it for you.
knee down, wheelies :laugh:
Current problems include - changing down while under brakes and includes throttle control at same time - issues
being smooth on the slow down
countersteering - although general cornering has improved a lot. Faster when I hang off.
not difficult stuff, just need some one on one coaching and plenty of practise & a lot of this :spanking: for not practising :devil2:
don't want to be practising this stuff with others right behind/around me - had few close calls on my own recently - not very funny
I will be trying to do this at slow speed as when I did this last summer my control improved a lot, lack of riding since then.
And twice now I have played as a dart board for starlings - they don't fly afterwards:cool:
and I have been getting my act together to do the NO trip (havent been past Matamata yet)
nzspokes
25th January 2015, 20:15
I have decided having somebody follow you with a camera is very good. Im going to get a helmet mount and if anybody wants vid of their riding I will tape them and give it to them the next week on USB.
Hope Fraser doesnt mind but this is a little of his footage of me, I now see very clearly what Im doing wrong. And why my corner speeds are low.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEUJpjEXOv8&feature=youtu.be
nzspokes
25th January 2015, 20:17
We are heading to the Nikau Cafe tomorrow if anybody is interested in a pootle.
The End
25th January 2015, 21:21
And why my corner speeds are low.
Get that knee down! :lol:
The rider at 1:18-1:24 looks super uncomfortable. Each to their own I guess...
nzspokes
25th January 2015, 22:01
Get that knee down! :lol:
The rider at 1:18-1:24 looks super uncomfortable. Each to their own I guess...
He ended up falling off a few laps later.
eldog
26th January 2015, 00:05
He ended up falling off a few laps later.
nice clear vid.
keep the revs up f2dz. revs are your friend. even on the almighty scorpio
that guy who came off reminds me of what i want to avoid
just my 2c (tell me if i am wrong)
nzspokes
26th January 2015, 06:49
nice clear vid.
keep the revs up f2dz. revs are your friend. even on the almighty scorpio
that guy who came off reminds me of what i want to avoid
just my 2c (tell me if i am wrong)
With a bike like that full revs out of a turn can be a bad thing as it will lead to highsides. You need to get the bike upright before full throttle. And on the straights with the amount of traffic you dont want to end up hitting somebody.
The guy on the R1 was leaning his upper body but not the bike, looked very awkward.
eldog
26th January 2015, 08:02
With a bike like that full revs out of a turn can be a bad thing as it will lead to highsides. You need to get the bike upright before full throttle. And on the straights with the amount of traffic you dont want to end up hitting somebody.
The guy on the R1 was leaning his upper body but not the bike, looked very awkward.
just thought the revs were a little low, wasnt thinking full revs, just make it easier to add as you exit..
thought the idea of track days was that the traffic is limited so you could get more time to practise byself without having to worry about others.
are there instructors following you, or was this the end blat around the track?
R1 guy looked like how i feel i ride, this i want to improve
nzspokes
26th January 2015, 08:09
just thought the revs were a little low, wasnt thinking full revs, just make it easier to add as you exit..
thought the idea of track days was that the traffic is limited so you could get more time to practise byself without having to worry about others.
are there instructors following you, or was this the end blat around the track?
R1 guy looked like how i feel i ride, this i want to improve
We were at the quicker end of the group which means you come up on others faster. There is not many riders out in each group. Also this is group 2 so a big step up from G1.
Instructors are in the yellow Highvis.
nzspokes
26th January 2015, 09:59
nice clear vid.
keep the revs up f2dz. revs are your friend. even on the almighty scorpio
that guy who came off reminds me of what i want to avoid
just my 2c (tell me if i am wrong)
My pillion seat is free this week if you want to give it a go. Position is much better from when you last sat on it.
eldog
27th January 2015, 06:00
My pillion seat is free this week if you want to give it a go. Position is much better from when you last sat on it.
Thanks for the offer I wont be there this week, already booked out
Position change - cool, I wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in the last setup
eldog
27th January 2015, 06:02
We were at the quicker end of the group which means you come up on others faster. There is not many riders out in each group. Also this is group 2 so a big step up from G1.
Instructors are in the yellow Highvis.
Makes sense, I wasnt there, I have never been.
So you might be steppin up to G3?
nzspokes
27th January 2015, 07:14
Thanks for the offer I wont be there this week, already booked out
Position change - cool, I wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in the last setup
Bawked told me it was more comfortable than his bike. He could have been being polite though.
Sharry sat on it for 300ks yesterday with no trouble.
nzspokes
27th January 2015, 07:14
Makes sense, I wasnt there, I have never been.
So you might be steppin up to G3?
Ive got a ways to go yet.
Tigadee
27th January 2015, 07:55
Current problems include - changing down while under brakes and includes throttle control at same time - issues
being smooth on the slow down
countersteering - although general cornering has improved a lot. Faster when I hang off.
not difficult stuff, just need some one on one coaching
I know you'll get this sorted out after your session with Phil. :niceone:
eldog
27th January 2015, 09:08
I know you'll get this sorted out after your session with Phil. :niceone:
thanks mate,
Most of the things are to do with slowing down.
I have found a loop I can try this stuff out without causing the neighbours to much grief :nono:
and I want to setup something else too, I have a cunning plan.
but I need to see what the things are that are causing the problems before I see Phil.
Like everyone says more k's, but I reckon its more quality k's for me at present (lots of corners where I have to slow down a lot), not just throttle off and power on or one gear change. With the brakes being applied and the throttle adjusted. Found myself at full throttle trying to stop, change gears mid corner, aye fun:no:
Yeah its coordination - more practise, and then I will see Phil as I planned, iron out the bugs do more practise.
Then do more learning. more practise. so I can get back to the sort of level of riding I feel confident riding with others
F2dz - riding, I found out its 'your responsibility' for yourself. Glad to see you are working on your skills.
f2dz
27th January 2015, 11:52
just thought the revs were a little low, wasnt thinking full revs, just make it easier to add as you exit..
If you thought that footage was lacking revs you wouldn't want to see my first track day. I was pretty conscious of this last time around though and thought I kept my revs a lot higher. Last time I lazily sat in third the whole way round.
As spokes said, I'm pretty concerned about highsiding coming out of a corner if I give it a whack of throttle although I thought I was coming out of turn 5 and 6 pretty well. Like he mentions, I also did struggle with some of the traffic being too slow and not wanting to go balls to the wall due to this. I personally think some people need to be dropped groups if they can't match the rest of the group as I got kinda frustrated with some riders doing group 1 speeds in group 2.
After seeing a Yamaha MT-09 blast past me on one session and disappear out of side I do realise my bike still has a ton left in it, but the rider on top is still too afraid of binning his pride and joy.
Gimme a couple years and I'll be getting a purpose built race bike and I'll ride a lot more ambitiously. :)
Glad you like the footage though man, I can talk to you about where I got my camera if you'd like to get the same. Don't buy them from NZ. You get charged roughly $150 more for nothin'.
nzspokes
27th January 2015, 12:17
So who is riding tonight?
Tigadee
27th January 2015, 12:27
I've tried to keep my evening clear tonight for SASS, so I should be there! :laugh:
eldog
27th January 2015, 13:09
If you thought that footage was lacking revs you wouldn't want to see my first track day. I was pretty conscious of this last time around though and thought I kept my revs a lot higher. Last time I lazily sat in third the whole way round.
As spokes said, I'm pretty concerned about highsiding coming out of a corner if I give it a whack of throttle although I thought I was coming out of turn 5 and 6 pretty well. Like he mentions, I also did struggle with some of the traffic being too slow and not wanting to go balls to the wall due to this. I personally think some people need to be dropped groups if they can't match the rest of the group as I got kinda frustrated with some riders doing group 1 speeds in group 2.
After seeing a Yamaha MT-09 blast past me on one session and disappear out of side I do realise my bike still has a ton left in it, but the rider on top is still too afraid of binning his pride and joy.
Gimme a couple years and I'll be getting a purpose built race bike and I'll ride a lot more ambitiously. :)
Glad you like the footage though man, I can talk to you about where I got my camera if you'd like to get the same. Don't buy them from NZ. You get charged roughly $150 more for nothin'.
I would like to see how you did on your first day, its good to see progress, being cautious is a good thing, take your time, it aint a race.
I don't expect you to whack full throttle, you are there to learn at your own pace. I would be in group 0-
take your time, falling off is easy to do - bugger again
always someone faster than you, thats ok, I learnt that at SASS, trouble is I know I can do better, just practise and knowledge (going to see phil issue)= frustration and errors and falling off
cool would like to see that race bike
I always listen to advice.
kiwi-on-wheels
27th January 2015, 13:14
Early knock at work yuss!!! Will definately be there tonight, happy to jump back a spot or 2 if someone wants closer to the front :-)
f2dz
27th January 2015, 16:07
You need a script for greeting on the answering machine? You do not know what kind of scenario do you need? Or do you doubt the necessity of greeting? For some of my clients write for ivr is complexity. In order to somehow make this task easier, and I wrote this article.
Answering Machine? Is that the new Honda?
Bit of a trek from Zambia, but expecting you there tonight..!
eldog
27th January 2015, 16:13
Answering Machine? Is that the new Honda?
Bit of a trek from Zambia, but expecting you there tonight..!
is it RED?
If it was Nigeria it would be bank account no :shit: (its a joke people)
get down to SASS
bawked
27th January 2015, 16:48
My new fairings arrived! But ive just finished work so wont be able to makr it in time. Next week though!
Sis
27th January 2015, 16:54
I will be there. And with the balls.
granda
27th January 2015, 21:06
I will be there. And with the balls.
Another awsome ride with a stunning sunset thrown in. Pillion loved it. Thanks all.
Sis
27th January 2015, 21:50
Yep another great day. Any chance for a ride is a great day.
We actually got to the car park tonight and got some basic braking skills started. Some of us had practised more and there were a few stoppies.
kiwi-on-wheels
27th January 2015, 22:20
Need new brake rotors, going up te irirangi drive i had a good opourtunity to just load up on the front brake, can feel the warpage, keeps grabing and nose of the bike oscilates up and down. Shall be getting that sorted asap
Tigadee
28th January 2015, 07:01
Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS
WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.
Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.
WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.
MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm
START ride -----------------------------> 7pm
FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)
SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish
Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.
Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:
Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.
nzspokes
28th January 2015, 07:02
Need new brake rotors, going up te irirangi drive i had a good opourtunity to just load up on the front brake, can feel the warpage, keeps grabing and nose of the bike oscilates up and down. Shall be getting that sorted asap
Spin the front wheel and see if there is any runout in the rotors, also check your pads for contamination.
Tigadee
28th January 2015, 07:38
Good ride, great company! Great to be back too, so thanks for the ride and welcome!
Good to meet the new aSASSins. Here are a couple of photos of the mean machines last night...
f2dz
28th January 2015, 15:35
Good ride, great company! Great to be back too, so thanks for the ride and welcome!
Good to meet the new aSASSins. Here are a couple of photos of the mean machines last night...
That bike between yours and Peters is veeeeery nice. ;)
Great pics, and great ride as always.
aws
29th January 2015, 00:01
Spin the front wheel and see if there is any runout in the rotors, also check your pads for contamination.
Yeah, apparently contamination is pretty common from lubing or cleaning products. Before replacing, first try giving the disc(s) a good clean with brake cleaner. Just keep it off your paintwork.
kiwi-on-wheels
29th January 2015, 07:43
Will crack into it this weekend
bawked
1st February 2015, 20:02
The cbr is all sexy again with new fairings and rearsets, took it for a ride around the block and all seems well except the splined shifter lever is too bent to work properly, so I'll just need to get one of those and it'll be ready for riding again.
And finally have the zxr motor sitting on my table so that'll get opened up tomorrow to inspect. If there are bent valves I have another motor lined up which i'll install on my next days off. If i'm lucky I'll just be doing the cam chain and seals as it seems to leak a bucket load of oil.
nzspokes
1st February 2015, 20:08
The cbr is all sexy again with new fairings and rearsets, took it for a ride around the block and all seems well except the splined shifter lever is too bent to work properly, so I'll just need to get one of those and it'll be ready for riding again.
And finally have the zxr motor sitting on my table so that'll get opened up tomorrow to inspect. If there are bent valves I have another motor lined up which i'll install on my next days off. If i'm lucky I'll just be doing the cam chain and seals as it seems to leak a bucket load of oil.
You could put them together and have a 500.......
Cool man. You got a tyre as well?
nzspokes
2nd February 2015, 13:22
I may or may not be there this week as I have a hospital visit tomorrow.
Big Dog
2nd February 2015, 14:46
I may or may not be there this week as I have a hospital visit tomorrow.
That may or may not be vague. Either way good luck with whatever beckons to the hospital.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Banditbandit
2nd February 2015, 14:59
South Auckland bikini
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/O45cddxicmk/maxresdefault.jpg
kiwi-on-wheels
2nd February 2015, 16:16
South auckland bikini? No way... that has to be photoshopped or stolen from some other country.
nzspokes
2nd February 2015, 19:36
That may or may not be vague. Either way good luck with whatever beckons to the hospital.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Well as I may or may not be having a procedure I have no idea if I can make it. That is up to the Doctors. :confused:
But If I do go my Pillion seat is not being used Lance. Feel free to give it a go.:niceone:
nzspokes
2nd February 2015, 19:37
Will crack into it this weekend
Did you get this sorted?
eldog
2nd February 2015, 20:31
SAB - say is that Sis in the front row of the picture? :eek: WOW, no wonder we follow her......<_<
Spokes, next week might be good for pillion, lets see what I can organise.
This week far to much work.
Just been to Taupo on bike on the weekend for a run. Meet the rellies - had a great time on and off the bike.
Picked up a few issues with the bike (I knew a few of them, sorted out the basic running ones but a few I have to sort at home)
Picked up my issues with my riding (i knew a few, but now have a few more)
The roads are much easier, but my riding needs to improve alot.
Still feel I am a danger to others, if I ride in a group and work has doubled, next week expected to quadrauple (most of it has to be processed by ME)
Good luck with you hospital visit mate. :niceone:
Come on KOWs, all South Auckland girls look like that:msn-wink:
....... must be the beer googles :drinknsin
bawked
2nd February 2015, 20:47
You could put them together and have a 500.......
Cool man. You got a tyre as well?
Not yet, I only get every second weekend off atm and working 11hr+ days so its a bit hard to find time.
eldog
2nd February 2015, 20:53
Not yet, I only get every second weekend off atm and working 11hr+ days so its a bit hard to find time.
I know this feeling all to well.
Its how you pay for the mbike, think about it so its worthwhile.
Its also why I dont improve, too little not often enough and its no use riding to work its less than 10ks at 50kph, takes me longer to get ready before and after the ride than the ride itself. I still enjoy it, but I need the car 50% of the time for work, so its a matter of fitting it in.
That and reasons above mean that I will be at SASS intermittently.
Just make sure its quality time when you ride:niceone:
kiwi-on-wheels
2nd February 2015, 21:38
Havnt had a chance to tinker with the bike, crazy busy with the car and prepping for the tramp over waitangi weekend i'm running.
Should be at sass tomorrow, looking at a new bike after work, so we will see
eldog
3rd February 2015, 06:20
Havnt had a chance to tinker with the bike, crazy busy with the car and prepping for the tramp over waitangi weekend i'm running.
Should be at sass tomorrow, looking at a new bike after work, so we will see
looking at another bike already?
it was the mistake I made.
no harm in looking get a feel for what you want to do.
Theres plenty of options/types
if you ask the others see what they think.
Get your skills up on your current bike, its less costly and easier to learn.
THE OTHERS AT SASS RIDE THEIR BIKES A LOT, THEY PRACTISE THEIR SKILLS DAILY
THATS WHY THEY MAKE IT SEEM EASY.
Play catch up at YOUR OWN pace. - That's what I am doing sorting out the bike and my riding at my own pace, because I don't get much time to do it. Its taking me longer.
However I know someone who started on a 500cc bike and never looked back-no accidents
I know its like being in a candy shop.
ATGATT-saw my blonde bit again this morning, young blonde female, lovely long tanned legs:yes: , frilly lycra shorts, no gloves, open face helmet, 50-100cc bike, likes to ride up the inside of cars, was lucky not to get knocked off last week, car did indicate-but realised mbike snuck up on inside in time. Rides with confidence. just saying ATGATT.
f2dz
3rd February 2015, 08:40
Havnt had a chance to tinker with the bike, crazy busy with the car and prepping for the tramp over waitangi weekend i'm running.
Should be at sass tomorrow, looking at a new bike after work, so we will see
Is it a 'busa?
nzspokes
3rd February 2015, 08:45
Is it a 'busa?
Always get a Busa.
Tigadee
3rd February 2015, 08:54
Probably won't be there tonight - got invaded by in-laws again! :facepalm:
Maybe might just make it to the pub... :mellow:
kiwi-on-wheels
3rd February 2015, 09:39
Not a 'busa, things are ugly as hell.
Looking in to de-restrictable bikes, something like the gsx650fu, ducatti monster etc
f2dz
3rd February 2015, 10:01
Won't be there tonight. Ride safe everyone!
Not a 'busa, things are ugly as hell.
Looking in to de-restrictable bikes, something like the gsx650fu, ducatti monster etc
Agreed.
I think Peter's bike is a GSX650FU, unrestricted though. If you're buying new/young then I'd also recommend checking out a Ninja 650. Cool bikes.
eldog
3rd February 2015, 10:50
I think Peter's bike is a GSX650FU, unrestricted though. If you're buying new/young then I'd also recommend checking out a Ninja 650. Cool bikes.
Pete's one has the lowered suspension for those with short inseam dimension :corn:
nzspokes
3rd February 2015, 12:37
I should be there tonight. Home and feeling a little average so will have a quiet arvo.
nzspokes
3rd February 2015, 15:53
I will have my camera on my bike so if anybody wants me to follow them Im happy to. Its on my bars so wont be as good as FD2Zs stuff but should be of use. I can pass it to up on USB the following week.
f2dz
3rd February 2015, 16:19
I will have my camera on my bike so if anybody wants me to follow them Im happy to. Its on my bars so wont be as good as FD2Zs stuff but should be of use. I can pass it to up on USB the following week.
I can also do the same if anyone would like, just let me know. Should hopefully be there next week.
eldog
3rd February 2015, 16:20
wish I was coming on the run tonight work has been soul destroying today :wait:
only a few more hours to go then back again tomorrow, bugger.
its paying for the motorbike:yes:
granda
3rd February 2015, 16:47
won't be there tonight. Ride safe everyone!
Agreed.
I think peter's bike is a gsx650fu, unrestricted though. If you're buying new/young then i'd also recommend checking out a ninja 650. Cool bikes.
gsx650f please fu is lams
granda
3rd February 2015, 16:53
wish I was coming on the run tonight work has been soul destroying today :wait:
only a few more hours to go then back again tomorrow, bugger.
its paying for the motorbike:yes:
To quote Nike JUST DO IT. See you there you know u want to
eldog
3rd February 2015, 19:04
To quote Nike JUST DO IT. See you there you know u want to
granda et al - what brand/type of intercom do you have - I am thinking of the future
F2dz+Spokes - yeah will talk to you about camera etc
I may want to, but I know I will be hung out to dry later. Got some work on the bike to do and heaps of work to process so others can earn $, else everything stops. mbiking included - mbike riding for me is a reward not a right
Tigadee - how does this sound? Got more done in the last hour than I did all day
Grasshopper knows sometimes better to take 2 steps back and turn on light before plunging in to darkness. :not:
Baldyman
3rd February 2015, 22:12
Great ride tonight. Thanks for all the input.
Here is the link to the MotoGP lean angles video.
http://youtu.be/J73XRDGPcpE
nzspokes
3rd February 2015, 22:18
I just had a quick look at the footage and its not bad. Will change settings for next time.
Happy to carry on doing this but from next week I will ask those that want it to bring a USB stick so I can load it to it.
This will not be shown to anyone but the rider being filmed or put on UTube.
Thanks for the ride tonight, :banana:
aws
3rd February 2015, 23:43
I think Peter's bike is a GSX650FU, unrestricted though. If you're buying new/young then I'd also recommend checking out a Ninja 650. Cool bikes.
Or the MT-07 - It sounds like an absolute weapon for a LAMS bike. Probably no point in de-restricting it.
f2dz
4th February 2015, 08:08
fu
No need to get antsy!
Or the MT-07 - It sounds like an absolute weapon for a LAMS bike. Probably no point in de-restricting it.
Agreed. If it's anything like its big brother the MT-09 then it'll be a good one.
Baldyman
4th February 2015, 08:11
I just had a quick look at the footage and its not bad. Will change settings for next time.
Happy to carry on doing this but from next week I will ask those that want it to bring a USB stick so I can load it to it.
This will not be shown to anyone but the rider being filmed or put on UTube.
Thanks for the ride tonight, :banana:
Thanks for the help, it should really improve my riding. How big is the file and what size USB stick would be required?
Tigadee
4th February 2015, 09:37
Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS
WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.
Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.
WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.
MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm
START ride -----------------------------> 7pm
FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)
SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish
Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.
Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:
Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.
nzspokes
4th February 2015, 11:28
Thanks for the help, it should really improve my riding. How big is the file and what size USB stick would be required?
I think it will be about 2g. But I will bring them along on a stick next week. Its more so it doesn't take 3 weeks of mucking about. Best would be if you have micro sd then I can give it to you on the night.
aws
4th February 2015, 11:37
Agreed. If it's anything like its big brother the MT-09 then it'll be a good one.
I believe it's right on the power to weight limit, but it's full of torque, so it doesn't feel lams. Apparently it has enough go to pop the front up.
Tigadee
4th February 2015, 13:24
Agreed. If it's anything like its big brother the MT-09 then it'll be a good one.
It's better apparently, as the MT-09's throttle-by-wire feels lacking...
kiwi-on-wheels
4th February 2015, 15:23
But naked bike... not so keen... but its definately on the test ride list.
f2dz
4th February 2015, 15:25
But naked bike... not so keen... but its definately on the test ride list.
Your current ride is quite on the naked side also..
kiwi-on-wheels
4th February 2015, 15:30
Yeas, i have acquired fairings for it, and they will be going on. Have 2 windshield bits, so might hack one up to try to keep the mx bars. failing that, the clip ons will be going back on.
aws
4th February 2015, 23:23
But naked bike... not so keen... but its definately on the test ride list.
But naked's where it's at...!
Tigadee
5th February 2015, 13:05
But naked's where it's at...!
+1 Yes, and I would have thought the (cost of) replacement fairings would be a good indicator of the benefit of naked bikes...
Cooler in the summer and chicks dig 'em too! :whistle:
eldog
5th February 2015, 18:44
Hot Nekered bike(r) chicks :not:
nzspokes
5th February 2015, 21:28
But naked's where it's at...!
Guess it was in the 60s. :bleh:
nzspokes
5th February 2015, 21:29
+1 Yes, and I would have thought the (cost of) replacement fairings would be a good indicator of the benefit of naked bikes...
Cooler in the summer and chicks dig 'em too! :whistle:
Didnt you just add fairings?:laugh:
nzspokes
5th February 2015, 21:34
But naked bike... not so keen... but its definately on the test ride list.
Hornet 250. :msn-wink:
Big Dog
6th February 2015, 00:23
Guess it was in the 60s. :bleh:
Any time is a good time to be naked.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
nzspokes
7th February 2015, 06:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_dF32JYCJPw#t=115
For our resident squid. :killingme
eldog
7th February 2015, 08:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_dF32JYCJPw#t=115
For our resident squid. :killingme
so you're been watching me ride lately = the red rider
no gear, no gloves, no helmet - seriously, around and around my street annoying the shit out of my neighbours (the big busty one in the next street over LOL - so much fun to see her run towards me)
ATGATT +1
granda
7th February 2015, 13:58
granda et al - what brand/type of intercom do you have - I am thinking of the future
F2dz+Spokes - yeah will talk to you about camera etc
I may want to, but I know I will be hung out to dry later. Got some work on the bike to do and heaps of work to process so others can earn $, else everything stops. mbiking included - mbike riding for me is a reward not a right
Tigadee - how does this sound? Got more done in the last hour than I did all day
Grasshopper knows sometimes better to take 2 steps back and turn on light before plunging in to darkness. :not:
Im running a pair of Sena,s pair together with pillion and bluetoothed to phone. Works great although txts are a bit of a pain as obviously you cant txt ride at same time. Also use it to listen to radio or pair with ipod. Works good for gps/maps loverly voice telling me where to g
eldog
7th February 2015, 14:10
Im running a pair of Sena,s pair together with pillion and bluetoothed to phone. Works great although txts are a bit of a pain as obviously you cant txt ride at same time. Also use it to listen to radio or pair with ipod. Works good for gps/maps loverly voice telling me where to g
Ta, Granda
better than the other half telling you were to go:spanking:
just thinking about what brand etc - most likely Sena at present
understand about txt/phone, if its important, I can stop/rest and reply.
only the music in my head, I listen/sing too. :killingme
gps and riding with others :niceone:, if they want to listen to my drivel. :argue:
going to do some research and add it to the household (bike) budget :rolleyes:
The End
7th February 2015, 15:06
going to do some research and add it to the household (bike) budget :rolleyes:
In the mean time I'd recommend checking out an app made by a user on here.
It's called RadioDrive and you can download it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiwiandroiddev.radiodrive
It reads out text messages, speed, weather updates etc. and also notifies you of missed calls and the like.
eldog
7th February 2015, 15:18
In the mean time I'd recommend checking out an app made by a user on here.
It's called RadioDrive and you can download it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiwiandroiddev.radiodrive
It reads out text messages, speed, weather updates etc. and also notifies you of missed calls and the like.
Thanks, Interesting, worth a look. I can see it working, but it will depend.
Although I prefer to ride by myself at night in the rain and dark (no phone ON) - silence just me, the bike and the road.
I think this will be a good addition when I have the GPS (finally setup) for those long rides when I don't know where I a going (which is most of the time :brick:)
the bike and my riding is still a work in progress (my riding will always be)
Big Dog
7th February 2015, 18:09
I have had my current interphone brand units for a little over 5 years.
They have been alternated as daily use items.
I have had to make a couple of repairs to them but so far have not cost me any extra money. Got 2 years problem free before first repair.
Cost $200 for 2 units. I just bought another pair 2 units for $120 delivered. Will fit these to the new helmet when I get rid of this whooping cough.
Dependable up to about 120. Beyond that the sound is distorted.
Under 120 the person calling normally thinks I am in an office.
One word of warning though listen to music or turn them right down. It still gives me the heebies when cruising through the country side and a voice suddenly pipes up "in 500m turn right" and it doesn't matter how much I expect the instruction.
Something to watch for when buying: volume control.
Not all units have. It can be very valuable to be in a position to turn it down. Especially if you have not normalised your volume levels across all your music in some way.
Buy the best units your budget allows for. Read reviews etc. Most expensive is not always best. On my budget i could have had much nicer brands but with only single device synch and no volume control. Or I could have had a cheaper unit with fm radio and a memo record but again no volume control.
Also helps if you take the time to practice operating your system with up your gear and no bike. Ie what plays music or stops it? How about making or receiving a call?
Does my phone auto answer when connected etc. Bastard things to work out while moving.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
nzspokes
7th February 2015, 18:14
One week untill ART day.......:niceone:
eldog
7th February 2015, 18:21
Something to watch for when buying: volume control.
Buy the best units your budget allows for. Read reviews etc.
Also helps if you take the time to practice operating your system with up your gear and no bike. Ie what plays music or stops it? How about making or receiving a call?
Does my phone auto answer when connected etc. Bastard things to work out while moving.
volume control and ease of use/reliability- got ya
used mostly for GPS and the odd group ride.
don't really need music - sound of engine is enough - yeah baby
don't want phone calls unless emergency
Big Dog
7th February 2015, 18:28
If you don't want the phone function there are units without the mic. Or there were in November. Search eBay for BT music helmet. The boom mike takes up more room than you would think.
I went with a full Comms because I hardly ever get calls but when I do they tend to be time critical.
At least one probably two high value contracts only came my way because I was the first candidate to answer the phone first time. A valuable asset in IT.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
nzspokes
7th February 2015, 18:42
Whats best for just talking to your pillion?
eldog
7th February 2015, 18:43
If you don't want the phone function there are units without the mic. Or there were in November. Search eBay for BT music helmet. The boom mike takes up more room than you would think.
I went with a full Comms because I hardly ever get calls but when I do they tend to be time critical.
At least one probably two high value contracts only came my way because I was the first candidate to answer the phone first time. A valuable asset in IT.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Valid point. Answer the phone. quite often means for me - a job
90% of my customers know I will ring them back, they know they don't have to leave a message, I will ring them. Most the rest will either leave a message or txt. I am cool with that. I don't get to ride to work often as I need my car for work.
eldog
7th February 2015, 18:46
Whats best for just talking to your pillion?
trust and understanding followed by hand signals, an integrated comms system then a Bluetooth coms system.
All technical developments off the phone - require power - something to think about
no good if battery is flat
nzspokes
7th February 2015, 19:10
trust and understanding followed by hand signals, an integrated comms system then a Bluetooth coms system.
All technical developments off the phone - require power - something to think about
no good if battery is flat
But thats hard to ask if she feels like a coffee at the next town etc. Had been thinking hard wired with a plug in type deal but dont know what to get.
eldog
7th February 2015, 19:46
But thats hard to ask if she feels like a coffee at the next town etc. Had been thinking hard wired with a plug in type deal but dont know what to get.
talk via helmet contact
or
tap on shoulder, she rubs your stomach and waves hand in front of face like drinking and point down the road - like at the pub.
Its unlikely I will ever have a pillion, although I have someone in mind who lives way down south - shes perfect as a pillion....
shes keen.
I got to get much better bike skills first before I try that.
Big Dog
7th February 2015, 19:58
Whats best for just talking to your pillion?
I bought these. http://www.trademe.co.nz/843183718
One touch to initiate voice operated 2 way coms. From there it is VOX until you switch off or receive a call. Wired systems normally require you to thumb a remote to speak.
No phone necessary unless you want to make calls.
Works rider to rider for up to a km of line of sight or near line of sight. E.g not through mountains or concrete. Maybe through bush. At 5 years old I get 7-9 hours o listening to music on my mobile. Gets a little less if I get a few phone calls. Rated to 3'hours calls or 12 hours standby. Charges off USB.
I was thinking if I was going away for a longer trip I would chuck a twin USB mount under the seat to have a spare and the phone on charge. And or keep a power bank in the tank bag or my pocket.
This far I have only ever carried a spare unit and a power bank for my phone.
I haven't used it rider to rider or rider to pillion.
Wired systems mostly don't require their own batteries but have issues with cable hang ups, broken leads etc.
Parts for wired can be bought in most cities.
Most wireless parts are model specific and need to be source before you need them.
Wireless has less bits to fail or snag but you need to be a little more organised with charging etc.
Wireless is dependent on software, which can be a limitation if you have to much shit on your phone but means you can add apps if you want to pre map rides, trace rides, listen to music, gps, inbound text, voice announce inbound caller ID etc.
It is a bit if a trade off.
What did I mend over last 5 years.
Broke several mounts putting bags on with helmet already on.
Had to put some plastic in between the PCB and the buttons because they were a bit soft in sunlight.
At 4-1/2 years I had to get the audio jack re soldered, and battery connectors that failed while fixing them.
I'd guess both units between them have 2500+ hours of use and still work.
Best dude to ask re Comms is probably gremlin. He has all the answers but tends to favour gear not in my budget.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
nzspokes
7th February 2015, 20:17
I bought these. http://www.trademe.co.nz/843183718
One touch to initiate voice operated 2 way coms. From there it is VOX until you switch off or receive a call. Wired systems normally require you to thumb a remote to speak.
No phone necessary unless you want to make calls.
Works rider to rider for up to a km of line of sight or near line of sight. E.g not through mountains or concrete. Maybe through bush. At 5 years old I get 7-9 hours o listening to music on my mobile. Gets a little less if I get a few phone calls. Rated to 3'hours calls or 12 hours standby. Charges off USB.
I was thinking if I was going away for a longer trip I would chuck a twin USB mount under the seat to have a spare and the phone on charge. And or keep a power bank in the tank bag or my pocket.
This far I have only ever carried a spare unit and a power bank for my phone.
I haven't used it rider to rider or rider to pillion.
Wired systems mostly don't require their own batteries but have issues with cable hang ups, broken leads etc.
Parts for wired can be bought in most cities.
Most wireless parts are model specific and need to be source before you need them.
Wireless has less bits to fail or snag but you need to be a little more organised with charging etc.
Wireless is dependent on software, which can be a limitation if you have to much shit on your phone but means you can add apps if you want to pre map rides, trace rides, listen to music, gps, inbound text, voice announce inbound caller ID etc.
It is a bit if a trade off.
What did I mend over last 5 years.
Broke several mounts putting bags on with helmet already on.
Had to put some plastic in between the PCB and the buttons because they were a bit soft in sunlight.
At 4-1/2 years I had to get the audio jack re soldered, and battery connectors that failed while fixing them.
I'd guess both units between them have 2500+ hours of use and still work.
Best dude to ask re Comms is probably gremlin. He has all the answers but tends to favour gear not in my budget.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Cool. Cheers for that. I dont want it for anything but talking to my pillion. And this will work when I get her bike finished. You can get bits ok then?
eldog
7th February 2015, 20:23
Cool. Cheers for that. I dont want it for anything but talking to my pillion. And this will work when I get her bike finished. You can get bits ok then?
surely you want to talk to the another rider not just your pillion or is this the one and the same (i take it once you get her bike sorted) there will be 2 bikes going for a ride.
Anyway I reckon it will be worth it if you use Big Dogs suggestions at least.
He uses it daily so it must be reliable.
If its reliable and easy to use - you will use it. Otherwise you will toss it.
Talk to Gremlin to see what the other types there are.
Big Dog
7th February 2015, 20:27
My pillion Comms normally:
Tap one hip twice = next turn on that side
Tap one hip 3 times = look over there.
Double tap both hips = stop when at next cafe or gas station.
Triple tap = stop as soon as you can.
Tap the helmet = slow down and put your visor up I want to talk to you.
Double tap both thighs = slow down.
Squeeze thighs = you can go faster again if you like.
Rub riders belly = I'm hungry.
Rub riders arm = I'm thirsty.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Big Dog
7th February 2015, 20:28
Cool. Cheers for that. I dont want it for anything but talking to my pillion. And this will work when I get her bike finished. You can get bits ok then?
Never needed to. Box came with bits for two units. But yes readily available on trademe and eBay.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
nzspokes
7th February 2015, 20:30
surely you want to talk to the another rider not just your pillion or is this the one and the same (i take it once you get her bike sorted) there will be 2 bikes going for a ride.
Anyway I reckon it will be worth it if you use Big Dogs suggestions at least.
He uses it daily so it must be reliable.
If its reliable and easy to use - you will use it. Otherwise you will toss it.
Talk to Gremlin to see what the other types there are.
We dont tend to ride with others as we have to do short hops to give her breaks. Most want to ride more distance, which is cool. We just cant as yet but we are getting more distance in.
nzspokes
7th February 2015, 20:35
Dave Moss is coming to town next month. He will be running track suspension classes and suspension nights where he will do a basic setup on your bike.
Dave Moss is an expert in suspension. I have been to one before and got a lot from it. There is an outside chance he will also be doing a ride along class for a half day but for that I need to find 7 other people at $100 each and a bike for him to ride. I cant see me getting that sorted.
This is his website. If you like the tech side he is the man, http://feelthetrack.com/
eldog
7th February 2015, 20:35
We dont tend to ride with others as we have to do short hops to give her breaks. Most want to ride more distance, which is cool. We just cant as yet but we are getting more distance in.
you must have forgotten our little pootle to matamata, paeroa, whangamata and back.
You rode ahead and waited very patiently for me.
I would do the same if you both came on a group ride. Hell she would outlast me anyway.
Group riding is about catering for all.
If the group cant handle it get another one.
Take your time. set small goals. thats how I am overcoming shit currently. and its working.
eldog
7th February 2015, 20:38
Dave Moss is coming to town next month. He will be running track suspension classes and suspension nights where he will do a basic setup on your bike.
Dave Moss is an expert in suspension. I have been to one before and got a lot from it. There is an outside chance he will also be doing a ride along class for a half day but for that I need to find 7 other people at $100 each and a bike for him to ride. I cant see me getting that sorted.
This is his website. If you like the tech side he is the man, http://feelthetrack.com/
Its still to early for me.
Next year should be different
Why dont you mention it in the NASS/ART threads and post on main KB thread
it should be worth it having a one to one type class
nzspokes
7th February 2015, 20:51
Its still to early for me.
Next year should be different
Why dont you mention it in the NASS/ART threads and post on main KB thread
it should be worth it having a one to one type class
8th of March by the way. I will see how it goes before posting up on the main board. Asking through some FB groups and here first.
nzspokes
7th February 2015, 21:58
you must have forgotten our little pootle to matamata, paeroa, whangamata and back.
You rode ahead and waited very patiently for me.
I would do the same if you both came on a group ride. Hell she would outlast me anyway.
Group riding is about catering for all.
If the group cant handle it get another one.
Take your time. set small goals. thats how I am overcoming shit currently. and its working.
The group I normally ride with would be fine with it. And have a couple of mates weve been out with. I just dont like to hold others up.
And its about timing, we dont often have a lot of time to plan with Sharry working a lot on weekends.
eldog
7th February 2015, 22:10
The group I normally ride with would be fine with it. And have a couple of mates weve been out with. I just dont like to hold others up.
And its about timing, we dont often have a lot of time to plan with Sharry working a lot on weekends.
I am not planning to do more group rides until I get myself a bit more bike sorted - I have pointed this out before. However much I enjoyed the SASS rides I dont want to put others at risk.
The only other group ride I may do soon is one for Northern Odyssey, if anyone is still interested.
I dont expect this ride to be a tight group, just people can go at their own pace, maybe smaller groups remeeting at each stop or similar. (a backup of sorts)
Otherwise I will do this by myself, I have already tested stuff out when I went to Taupo the other weekend. - thats how I know what I have to fix.
I am currently looking at late Feb or late March or Mid April - will try to avoid Easter unless others want to go then. Its approx 1200 ks from AKL
My current touring speed would indicate 3 days, however 2 days for more experienced riders would easily be possible.
My initial plan: day 1: Akl-Wanganui day 2: Wanganui-Tauranmanui? day 3: Tauranmanui?-Akl or similar
open for options, suggestions etc. Quite happy to be at the back, I dont have any experience as being a TEC but who knows.
I want to be able to see the sights not just blast up and down the country. I havent seen alot of the back country roads.
Gremlin
8th February 2015, 01:47
Well I'll have to ignore the cheap stuff (probably the budget Big Dog was talking about :laugh: ) simply because I don't consider it, and usually use extensively, so the cheap stuff often doesn't work out, or isn't compatible etc. Not worth the hassle which I've seen many go through. Getting parts for knock off stuff, while cheap, can be more difficult. I'd rather pay the extra for more odds of support (plus user gripes in forums pointing out any bugs).
Wired, the main brands are Starcom, Baehr, and something, sounds similar to Starcom from memory. I've used Baehr since circa 08/09, still have the original unit installed in the second bike. Probably done north of 150,000km, including bouncing down gravel, fording rivers etc, and still works fine as it's permanently wired into the bike. Never broken a lead either. German, not cheap, a complete setup is usually $3-5k. Comms to pillion available simply by talking, the unit has auto-volume when wind noise increases. If only rider and you talk, it's a sing-a-long mode, volume increases. I believe when two are plugged in, it cuts the music upon detection of voice and allows talking. I say believe, as I've never had a pillion with Baehr, being all proprietary, it would be a long term gf / wife (don't have either). Used to be used by police bikes, might still be used by ambo bikes. Also has additional modules for bluetooth, it's a powerful system, but as said, definitely not budget. The brains is a box under your seat, needs power.
Wireless, main brands are Interphone (boss had an F5 or something and problems), Scala and Sena (along with proprietary like Schuberth, N-Com). There is supposed to be some compatibility between brands now (used to be each brand could only talk to another of the same brand) but I haven't had this working yet. I've had Sena for a couple of years now, most in IAM have gone for Sena and we're regularly linking multiple units together in 2, 3, 4 way intercom (any Sena unit, pillion or another rider). New Sena 20S is capable of 8 way intercom with only itself apparently (previous units limited to 4). Batteries a little annoying (charging your helmet is a great gimmick for those that don't realise tho) but cordless... pros and cons. I have the GPS (Zumo 660) acting as the hub, linking helmet and mobile to it, allowing me to control the mobile from the GPS. Occasionally something in the bluetooth chain drops and I restart the GPS / Sena and all is fine again. I have a SMH10R installed permanently in my N104 (10R is modular and needed because of the design of the N104) and a SMH10B for installation temporarily on other people's helmets. Bluetooth doesn't need a central box, just link devices together.
I use both comm systems currently, but debating whether to remove the Baehr as most needs are satisfied via Bluetooth, but for example, I can't be bothered with bluetooth for a ride tomorrow, and the Baehr is instantly available, no charging required etc. Baehr audio installed in one helmet, Sena on another.
nzspokes
8th February 2015, 12:01
Well I'll have to ignore the cheap stuff (probably the budget Big Dog was talking about :laugh: ) simply because I don't consider it, and usually use extensively, so the cheap stuff often doesn't work out, or isn't compatible etc. Not worth the hassle which I've seen many go through. Getting parts for knock off stuff, while cheap, can be more difficult. I'd rather pay the extra for more odds of support (plus user gripes in forums pointing out any bugs).
Wired, the main brands are Starcom, Baehr, and something, sounds similar to Starcom from memory. I've used Baehr since circa 08/09, still have the original unit installed in the second bike. Probably done north of 150,000km, including bouncing down gravel, fording rivers etc, and still works fine as it's permanently wired into the bike. Never broken a lead either. German, not cheap, a complete setup is usually $3-5k. Comms to pillion available simply by talking, the unit has auto-volume when wind noise increases. If only rider and you talk, it's a sing-a-long mode, volume increases. I believe when two are plugged in, it cuts the music upon detection of voice and allows talking. I say believe, as I've never had a pillion with Baehr, being all proprietary, it would be a long term gf / wife (don't have either). Used to be used by police bikes, might still be used by ambo bikes. Also has additional modules for bluetooth, it's a powerful system, but as said, definitely not budget. The brains is a box under your seat, needs power.
Wireless, main brands are Interphone (boss had an F5 or something and problems), Scala and Sena (along with proprietary like Schuberth, N-Com). There is supposed to be some compatibility between brands now (used to be each brand could only talk to another of the same brand) but I haven't had this working yet. I've had Sena for a couple of years now, most in IAM have gone for Sena and we're regularly linking multiple units together in 2, 3, 4 way intercom (any Sena unit, pillion or another rider). New Sena 20S is capable of 8 way intercom with only itself apparently (previous units limited to 4). Batteries a little annoying (charging your helmet is a great gimmick for those that don't realise tho) but cordless... pros and cons. I have the GPS (Zumo 660) acting as the hub, linking helmet and mobile to it, allowing me to control the mobile from the GPS. Occasionally something in the bluetooth chain drops and I restart the GPS / Sena and all is fine again. I have a SMH10R installed permanently in my N104 (10R is modular and needed because of the design of the N104) and a SMH10B for installation temporarily on other people's helmets. Bluetooth doesn't need a central box, just link devices together.
I use both comm systems currently, but debating whether to remove the Baehr as most needs are satisfied via Bluetooth, but for example, I can't be bothered with bluetooth for a ride tomorrow, and the Baehr is instantly available, no charging required etc. Baehr audio installed in one helmet, Sena on another.
3 to 5k? :weird:
I think I will try the cheapy first.
nzspokes
8th February 2015, 12:02
Going to try and fit my own tyres today and balance them. :mellow:
What could go wrong. :facepalm:
eldog
8th February 2015, 12:45
Going to try and fit my own tyres today and balance them. :mellow:
What could go wrong. :facepalm:
You don't want to try this on the Scorpio tyres I have, it took the tyre shoppe over an hour to get it right for each tyre what a drama. Something I need to learn but not with Scorpio, with another bike yes.
good luck with that one.
from Granda and Gremlins posts - looks like the SENA is the go.
nzspokes
8th February 2015, 14:58
Any of you Hornet 900 riders need a spare front wheel? Ive got one for sale for $120. Turns out it wont fit a VTR. :facepalm:
eldog
8th February 2015, 15:05
Any of you Hornet 900 riders need a spare front wheel? Ive got one for sale for $120. Turns out it wont fit a VTR. :facepalm:
I gave away my OEM tyres for the Scorpio, to a friend who loves them, another Scorpio rider/racer
Tigadee
9th February 2015, 10:26
Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS
WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.
Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.
WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.
MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm
START ride -----------------------------> 7pm
FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)
SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish
Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.
Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:
Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.
Tigadee
9th February 2015, 10:27
Any of you Hornet 900 riders need a spare front wheel? Ive got one for sale for $120. Turns out it wont fit a VTR. :facepalm:
If it'd have been a spare rear wheel I would have jumped on this, sicne there is that little dent on the lip of mine...:no:
Tigadee
9th February 2015, 10:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSKKvnA47aU
I am not planning to do more group rides until I get myself a bit more bike sorted - I have pointed this out before. However much I enjoyed the SASS rides I dont want to put others at risk.
:blink: Don't overthink things... Make paranoia work for you, not against you.
eldog
9th February 2015, 11:38
:blink: Don't overthink things... Make paranoia work for you, not against you.
turning paranoia into normality before Sis started horseback riding :banana:
bawked
9th February 2015, 11:46
I'd be keen for the dave moss day rob, let me know if its happening
f2dz
9th February 2015, 13:53
Some mates at work went along to a Dave Moss evening once, they seemed to think it was worth it.
I would be interested but planning on flicking my bike off in the first half of this year so I won't be going.
If anyone's interested I may be heading along to the Friday 27th twilight track day at Hamptons. Not sure how these compare to the ART days in terms of riders but they're a decent amount cheaper. My ancestry is half Scottish after all so I blame that for my inherent cheap-ness.
nzspokes
9th February 2015, 14:01
There is no instructions at those. But still fun. I think I will have a go at that.
nzspokes
9th February 2015, 14:02
Anybody wants to be filmed tomorrow?
f2dz
9th February 2015, 15:14
Anybody wants to be filmed tomorrow?
So.... you're not coming to SASS?? :P
eldog
9th February 2015, 16:41
Some mates at work went along to a Dave Moss evening once, they seemed to think it was worth it.
I would be interested but planning on flicking my bike off in the first half of this year so I won't be going.
If anyone's interested I may be heading along to the Friday 27th twilight track day at Hamptons. Not sure how these compare to the ART days in terms of riders but they're a decent amount cheaper. My ancestry is half Scottish after all so I blame that for my inherent cheap-ness.
point me in the direction of the web site - I am a web noob too
might come along for a reco. Havent been to Hampton Downs
is it worth a look? I wont be riding.
eldog
9th February 2015, 16:44
So.... you're not coming to SASS?? :P
He's making a SASS porno and you've got the starring role :facepalm::shutup: Co-starring Suzi Gixer :Punk:
cant wait to see it :corn:
eldog
9th February 2015, 17:05
If it'd have been a spare rear wheel I would have jumped on this, sicne there is that little dent on the lip of mine...:no:
One good thing about Scorpio tyres, you can sling both front and rear tyres over your shoulder so you can replace them on the run :bash:
nzspokes
9th February 2015, 18:34
Going to try and fit my own tyres today and balance them. :mellow:
What could go wrong. :facepalm:
Tyre fitted and on the bike. Not that bad really.
Tigadee
10th February 2015, 07:53
Sorry won't be there tonight, I have come down with a case of "in-law-itis"... :facepalm:
One good thing about Scorpio tyres, you can sling both front and rear tyres over your shoulder so you can replace them on the run :bash:
I think I've seen that done in parts of south east Asia... :killingme
f2dz
10th February 2015, 11:36
Pouring rain in the city at the moment but if this clears I'll be there.
Tigadee
10th February 2015, 11:38
It'll clear before SASS, so enjoy your ride, aSASSins!
nzspokes
10th February 2015, 11:59
Pouring rain in the city at the moment but if this clears I'll be there.
Fine here. Harden up. Bwhahaha
f2dz
10th February 2015, 15:15
Ditto now. I'll b thur.
bawked
10th February 2015, 17:44
Ill be there may be 5-10mins late
Maakz
10th February 2015, 19:40
Hi folks-had every intention of coming tonight, went out to my bike, tried to start MY up and the battery was dead. Had to call AA to jump start. BUGGA. Hope yáll had a good ride out. Next time.
bawked
10th February 2015, 21:56
Hi folks-had every intention of coming tonight, went out to my bike, tried to start MY up and the battery was dead. Had to call AA to jump start. BUGGA. Hope yáll had a good ride out. Next time.
Mine was dead too, so just bumped it leaving the driveway haha motorbikes are ridiculously easy to bump start.
Sis
10th February 2015, 21:57
Hi folks-had every intention of coming tonight, went out to my bike, tried to start MY up and the battery was dead. Had to call AA to jump start. BUGGA. Hope yáll had a good ride out. Next time.
Thanks I got your message. We missed you.
We did the Waiuku/Tuakau/Runciman/Karaka loop tonight.
flanders
11th February 2015, 16:54
Ok, so I watched myself on the vid (thanks Rob) for 20+ mins. I discovered the high speed fast forward option far too late into the vid unfortunately!
Anyhooo, whilst I can see my mistakes I still don't quite get why.
All I know is that in the vid I corner poorly, as Rob said MX style with my body remaining upright whilst the bike leans.
I know from last nights ride that leaning forward reduces my wind resistance and helps me corner simply because my chest isn't taking a pounding from the wind and of course my arms, being attached to my chest, have more control.
However I also noticed with leaning forward I can stay far more stable on the outside of the curve and don't cross the centre line nor do I do the "multple stabs at cornering" behaviour that I sometimes do (the whole corner event is far more contiguous and stable and consistent curve action from me and the bike).
But I have no idea "why".
Plus, Rob, I was told to "look over my shoulder" which I have no idea what that actually means.
Whilst leaning forward improves my cornering a whole lot, in my mind I am still somewhat crossing my body across the bike as it leans into a corner, i.e. my body is not in line with the gravitational pull towards the tyres / circumference of the curve but leans into the curve waiting for the bike to catch-up. I'm still not in-line but just simply no longer sitting up-right. Is this correct?
I'd appreciate some physics lessons!!
The End
11th February 2015, 17:25
Thanks I got your message. We missed you.
We did the Waiuku/Tuakau/Runciman/Karaka loop tonight.
Bugger wish I had have known! You guys would have ridden right passed where I live :bleh:
The End
11th February 2015, 17:31
Plus, Rob, I was told to "look over my shoulder" which I have no idea what that actually means.
I wasn't there so could be wrong however I believe what is meant here is that you look over your shoulder THROUGH the corner. If you look through the corner, it unconsciously makes your body more comfortable and in the right position for the corner than when compared to being stiff and upright.
Watch this when you get a chance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVWLIfChUwg
It covers more than just riding position and is a must watch for all riders.
nzspokes
11th February 2015, 17:35
Ok, so I watched myself on the vid (thanks Rob) for 20+ mins. I discovered the high speed fast forward option far too late into the vid unfortunately!
Anyhooo, whilst I can see my mistakes I still don't quite get why.
All I know is that in the vid I corner poorly, as Rob said MX style with my body remaining upright whilst the bike leans.
I know from last nights ride that leaning forward reduces my wind resistance and helps me corner simply because my chest isn't taking a pounding from the wind and of course my arms, being attached to my chest, have more control.
However I also noticed with leaning forward I can stay far more stable on the outside of the curve and don't cross the centre line nor do I do the "multple stabs at cornering" behaviour that I sometimes do (the whole corner event is far more contiguous and stable and consistent curve action from me and the bike).
But I have no idea "why".
Plus, Rob, I was told to "look over my shoulder" which I have no idea what that actually means.
Whilst leaning forward improves my cornering a whole lot, in my mind I am still somewhat crossing my body across the bike as it leans into a corner, i.e. my body is not in line with the gravitational pull towards the tyres / circumference of the curve but leans into the curve waiting for the bike to catch-up. I'm still not in-line but just simply no longer sitting up-right. Is this correct?
I'd appreciate some physics lessons!!
Look over my shoulder refers to being my pillion. As you were in front of me you were not my pillion. :bleh:
The why is easy, your arms are bent and you dont have weight on the bars so you are correctly guiding the front wheel not using the bars to hold on with.
For position it will be easier to explain in person.
The End
11th February 2015, 17:39
For position it will be easier to explain in person.
And for what NOT to do for position checkout this guy at 1:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEUJpjEXOv8&feature=youtu.be
Maha
11th February 2015, 17:46
Ok, so I watched myself on the vid (thanks Rob) for 20+ mins. I discovered the high speed fast forward option far too late into the vid unfortunately!
Anyhooo, whilst I can see my mistakes I still don't quite get why.
All I know is that in the vid I corner poorly, as Rob said MX style with my body remaining upright whilst the bike leans.
I know from last nights ride that leaning forward reduces my wind resistance and helps me corner simply because my chest isn't taking a pounding from the wind and of course my arms, being attached to my chest, have more control.
However I also noticed with leaning forward I can stay far more stable on the outside of the curve and don't cross the centre line nor do I do the "multple stabs at cornering" behaviour that I sometimes do (the whole corner event is far more contiguous and stable and consistent curve action from me and the bike).
But I have no idea "why".
Plus, Rob, I was told to "look over my shoulder" which I have no idea what that actually means.
Whilst leaning forward improves my cornering a whole lot, in my mind I am still somewhat crossing my body across the bike as it leans into a corner, i.e. my body is not in line with the gravitational pull towards the tyres / circumference of the curve but leans into the curve waiting for the bike to catch-up. I'm still not in-line but just simply no longer sitting up-right. Is this correct?
I'd appreciate some physics lessons!!
Leaning forward has nothing to with correcting ''crossing the center line or "multiple stabs at cornering" another issue is a fault here.
I had a CB1300 and put a very small Givi screen on it which took the wind blast off my head area. The bike itself is designed for the more upright riding position and they go around corners (once you have sorted your corner entry issue) just fine.
Tigadee
12th February 2015, 07:19
I'd appreciate some physics lessons!!
Watch this guy's videos, very good he is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvsaN3Tc9c&list=PLq49az9efu7sa8YNx2cQhe_MUgTA9-hN
And for what NOT to do for position checkout this guy at 1:18
Wow, what's that called? "Lazy Leaning"?
eldog
13th February 2015, 16:37
And for what NOT to do for position checkout this guy
that's how I ride!:whistle:
explain to a NOOB (Lazy Leaner) what you mean.
and yes I know what happened later...... :facepalm:
would agreed with Maha - Flanders you describe multiple issues. Try to separate them. Take your time you will come right.
samgab
13th February 2015, 18:01
What sort of turnout do these rides usually get, and does anyone with any rider training quals or similar turn up? Cheers!
eldog
13th February 2015, 18:08
Now youvre done it:corn:
nzspokes
13th February 2015, 18:23
Now youvre done it:corn:
Who has done what?
nzspokes
13th February 2015, 20:10
Good news is Sharry has had a shift change so will be along more often:banana:.
f2dz
14th February 2015, 09:00
What sort of turnout do these rides usually get, and does anyone with any rider training quals or similar turn up? Cheers!
These days anywhere from 6-12 people or so. No one with rider training qualifications as far as I know but collectively there's a lot of experience between a few riders who go regularly.
If you're after high quality rider training it's best to seek out a course on offer from a registered provider - be it through ACCs programme or ProRider, Rider Training, etc.
These rides are really just about the camaraderie of riding with some tips and tricks thrown in by the more experienced riders (at least that's how I view it! :P)
Would be great to see you along if you're interested though. We don't bite, but we do order coffee instead of beers at a bar afterwards because we're proper jafas like that.
Sis
14th February 2015, 09:42
These days anywhere from 6-12 people or so. No one with rider training qualifications as
These rides are really just about the camaraderie of riding with some tips and tricks thrown in by the more experienced riders (at least that's how I view it! :P)
Would be great to see you along if you're interested though. We don't bite, but we do order coffee instead of beers at a bar afterwards because we're proper jafas like that.
Well said but you failed to mention chaps this time :bleh:
As everyone can see on this thread, we ride to refresh our skills and give each other some shit as well but all in good fun.
samgab
14th February 2015, 12:14
These days anywhere from 6-12 people or so. No one with rider training qualifications as far as I know but collectively there's a lot of experience between a few riders who go regularly.
If you're after high quality rider training it's best to seek out a course on offer from a registered provider - be it through ACCs programme or ProRider, Rider Training, etc.
These rides are really just about the camaraderie of riding with some tips and tricks thrown in by the more experienced riders (at least that's how I view it! :P)
Would be great to see you along if you're interested though. We don't bite, but we do order coffee instead of beers at a bar afterwards because we're proper jafas like that.
Cheers for that. Yeah, I might be keen to come along, work shifts permitting...
nzspokes
14th February 2015, 12:52
Well said but you failed to mention chaps this time :bleh:
As everyone can see on this thread, we ride to refresh our skills and give each other some shit as well but all in good fun.
He should warn people about his chaps.
Nicely put Fraser.
f2dz
14th February 2015, 13:19
How could I forget those.. :whistle:
nzspokes
14th February 2015, 19:19
Nice wee vid on trackdays for beginners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFwtHe_C_yY
Sis
15th February 2015, 18:07
I can't make it this Tuesday.
Once again I have a committee meeting.
eldog
15th February 2015, 21:23
tuesday: I will be breaking some rocks at Bethells Beach
kiwi-on-wheels
15th February 2015, 21:39
should be there, and hopefully with some new fairings, if i can get the front covers to fit around the mx bars.
nzspokes
16th February 2015, 05:50
Big day yesterday. The problem I have with slow speed drills is starting to turn up on the track. :(
But got a few good laps in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2-3qUEBsEg
Much quicker this time. If I can sort the dizziness I will be in G3 next time.
Big Dog
16th February 2015, 07:23
If it is an equalibrium / inner ear type issue you have try chewing mints at the begging of rides. Works a treat for me, I get a lot of inner ear infections due to a youth spent going swimming at any opportunity.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Tigadee
16th February 2015, 11:12
If you're after high quality rider training it's best to seek out a course on offer from a registered provider - be it through ACCs programme or ProRider, Rider Training, etc.
Och, laddie! You cannae forget Phil MacDaid from Rider Skills, mon!
These rides are really just about the camaraderie of riding with some tips and tricks thrown in by the more experienced riders...
Experienced, safety-minded and sane riders... :laugh: Even hard-out crazy and dangerous riders can be experienced.
Tigadee
16th February 2015, 11:13
Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS
WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.
Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.
WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.
MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm
START ride -----------------------------> 7pm
FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)
SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish
Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.
Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:
Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.
Tigadee
16th February 2015, 11:18
And for what NOT to do for position checkout this guy at 1:18
Well I never... :crazy: Never thought I'd see the day when I will witness the rarely seen anti-counter-steering leaning technique.
This will be one for the grandkiddies! :nya:
f2dz
16th February 2015, 11:45
Och, laddie! You cannae forget Phil MacDaid from Rider Skills, mon!
That's what my 'etc' was meant to cover, but yes, him too!
You get a new camera Rob? Quality looks improved from last time.
Bunch of rain at the start of next week so I'll wait a few more days before booking that track day on the 27th.
nzspokes
16th February 2015, 14:08
That's what my 'etc' was meant to cover, but yes, him too!
You get a new camera Rob? Quality looks improved from last time.
Bunch of rain at the start of next week so I'll wait a few more days before booking that track day on the 27th.
Same camera but new mount and mic is remote under the tail.
f2dz
16th February 2015, 14:41
Nice - definitely helps having the mic in a less windy position. If I don't use the one in my helmet I may as well not have sound at all.
nzspokes
16th February 2015, 17:23
Ok this week will be a longer ride due to Sis not being there with the balls. So will do my Mercer ride.
I wont be able to film this week as will be leading.
Who is coming along?
Sis
16th February 2015, 18:21
Ok this week will be a longer ride due to Sis not being there with the balls. So will do my Mercer ride.
I wont be able to film this week as will be leading.
Who is coming along?
Hey, I am missing out!!! You always do it when I am not there.
nzspokes
16th February 2015, 18:33
Hey, I am missing out!!! You always do it when I am not there.
We do it because you are not there. :baby:
Kartik
16th February 2015, 18:41
I will be there tomorrow. :)
Maakz
16th February 2015, 21:00
Will have to see how work pans out, have every intention of coming but as always, if um not there by the time you're ready to roll then go ahead and enjoy the ride.
kiwi-on-wheels
16th February 2015, 21:43
Very keen, wont have the new fairings on tho
f2dz
16th February 2015, 21:50
I'll see how tomorrow pans out. Just stuffed up my back after botching a lift at the gym - not feeling that great. :facepalm:
If I can't manage the bike ride I may just drive the cage down to the meet up for a coffeh.
nzspokes
16th February 2015, 21:53
I'll see how tomorrow pans out. Just stuffed up my back after botching a lift at the gym - not feeling that great. :facepalm:
If I can't manage the bike ride I may just drive the cage down to the meet up for a coffeh.
Those Latte's they serve at the Gym getting a bit big on you now?:laugh:
nzspokes
16th February 2015, 21:53
I will be there tomorrow. :)
Sweet! Great to have you back.
nzspokes
16th February 2015, 22:06
Im gunna skite.
Just realized nobody overtook me at the track day. :wings:
f2dz
16th February 2015, 22:10
Those Latte's they serve at the Gym getting a bit big on you now?:laugh:
If only!
Na, just a sudden lack of concentration. Sigh.
f2dz
16th February 2015, 22:11
Im gunna skite.
Just realized nobody overtook me at the track day. :wings:
G3 time buddy!
nzspokes
16th February 2015, 22:26
G3 time buddy!
Getting very close, turn 6 speed was up about 20kph. Will try to get to the 27th if the weather is ok.
By the way, I have got another small project. Well not so small.
Tigadee
17th February 2015, 08:14
Won't be there - have a meeting with daughter's teacher at school. :yawn:
Just stuffed up my back after botching a lift at the gym - not feeling that great.
Oh dear! Weren't you wearing your chap supports at the time?
http://knight.knationu.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/34/Do-you-even-lift-bro.jpg
Kartik
17th February 2015, 08:36
Sweet! Great to have you back.
Thanks. It's great to be back. Missed being on the bike a lot. Can't wait to ride again.....
See you all tonight.
f2dz
17th February 2015, 09:41
Oh dear! Weren't you wearing your chap supports at the time?
http://knight.knationu.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/34/Do-you-even-lift-bro.jpg
Haha - not this time!
Might not be able to make it to Broncos after all either actually, might have to play taxi for the night.
Guess I'll see y'all next week. Ride safe.
Tigadee
17th February 2015, 13:23
...might have to play taxi for the night.
Ha! Welcome to the club! :clap:
kiwi-on-wheels
17th February 2015, 17:20
Running a little late, will be there, wait for meeeeeeeee
Theantidote
17th February 2015, 20:24
Thanks everyone...great weee ride...c yall again
samgab
17th February 2015, 21:39
Great ride, thanks everyone. Thanks especially NZSpokes and Sharry for the tips. Good advice, taken on board.
Tired now, but feeling good for getting a good ride under my belt, so to speak.
Edit: Oh and really nice to meet you all whom I hadn't met before!
granda
17th February 2015, 22:11
Another excellent evenings ride and chit chat. Great to hear others ideas and riding suggestions. We all grow.
nzspokes
17th February 2015, 22:18
This is my tyres from the track day. Posted it because Lance was talking about tyre heat.
We canchat about tyre heat next week. Just remind me.
kiwi-on-wheels
17th February 2015, 23:18
Aahh yes, tyre heat, got some warmth into mine monday evening after a blat around maraetai, bike tips in real fast when the tyres are good and hot, its... interesting
Kartik
17th February 2015, 23:40
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/17/d81599e0744820d6efdb563eee2dd42c.jpgGreat ride tonight. Thanks guys. Felt good being back and going for the long ride.
eldog
18th February 2015, 06:18
Spokes - would be good to talk about tyre heat......... :2thumbsup
really noticeable on the narrow Scorpio tyres - so little contact patch.
Bike works much better with a little weight added and I scrubbed off some of those square shoulders I have been building
have to get the tyre pressures just right and I have to check before almost every ride :pinch:
Sorry wont be there next week - got those rocks to break at Waitakere Quarry
so will miss the tyre heat stuff :weep:, but you will have the balls :banana:
Got the dates wrong - rocks for brains :brick:
twas a great ride, I tried some stuff and its starting to work, better control - needs more adjustment (Levers) and practise.
f2dz
18th February 2015, 14:15
Speaking of tyres, how did your new ones go on Sunday, Rob?
I'm wondering if I should be changing my rear tyre before hitting the track again. Sitting at approx 3mms in the middle, sides are fine..
nzspokes
18th February 2015, 16:24
Speaking of tyres, how did your new ones go on Sunday, Rob?
I'm wondering if I should be changing my rear tyre before hitting the track again. Sitting at approx 3mms in the middle, sides are fine..
Very well. See pics above. They tip faster and it seems easier to hold the lean. Rear has a bit of a flat spot but thats reducing quickly. Say there is a good few more track days in them which is great. Happy with them. :yes:
Some may say the Hawk wont be doing much more commuting and Sass work now...... ;)
eldog
18th February 2015, 18:21
They tip faster and it seems easier to hold the lean. Happy with them. :yes:
Some may say the Hawk wont be doing much more commuting and Sass work now...... ;)
IMHO they tip really nice, they feel like a giant gorilla gripping the ground, they feel fantastic - I know, its amazing how they gave me confidence, and I was only along for the ride. Enabled me to totally look up thru the corner at the top of my visor, just like you see on the track. Great sensation.:headbang:
Cornering was just blip,- it was over, unlike my long sweepers :nono:
riding was smooth and predictable. learnt so much about position, speed, traction, angle, braking..... everything really what an eye opener! So much more than what I was told I would learn.
If youse get the opportunity take it with both hands. :not: and we wasn't going fast at all.
I thought 6 months ago that the Hawk may have another purpose, as a commuter :banana:
F2dz, 3mm is it going to rain? Might come and watch evening 27 Feb, you will have to remind me
nzspokes
18th February 2015, 21:10
I do see some longer rides in my future.
eldog
18th February 2015, 21:13
I do see some longer rides in my future.
I am planning a 1000+ k trip before the end of April :girlfight:
got to get sorted.
f2dz
19th February 2015, 08:04
F2dz, 3mm is it going to rain? Might come and watch evening 27 Feb, you will have to remind me
I'll keep an eye on the forecast - might book as late as mid next week. Sorta depends on how my back is doing before then though. My physio said I had to take it easy for 3 weeks.
What are you gonna be riding if you're tracking the Superhawk, Rob?
Tigadee
19th February 2015, 10:29
Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS
WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.
Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.
WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.
MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm
START ride -----------------------------> 7pm
FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)
SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish
Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.
Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:
Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.
Tigadee
19th February 2015, 10:31
What are you gonna be riding if you're tracking the Superhawk, Rob?
The milder version - the ChickenHawk...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/1c/1e/47/1c1e477d3952b2d206e137a02457cd80.jpg
nzspokes
19th February 2015, 12:27
What are you gonna be riding if you're tracking the Superhawk, Rob?
Just another big bore.
eldog
19th February 2015, 14:11
tonight MERCER RUN + I want to try and remember the route.
Its easy following someone else or being green. How else a I going to progress to RIC or TEC? By backing myself.
8pm usual place (I work till 7+ most nights) even making SASS is a hassle.
gentle pace - I need to chill.
no balls no pub, t'will be dark.
f2dz
19th February 2015, 16:14
tonight MERCER RUN +
8pm usual place
gentle pace - I need to chill.
Bit of a late start! Ride safe.
Tigadee
20th February 2015, 08:29
gentle pace - I need to chill.
no balls no pub, t'will be dark.
Keep your eyes peeled and just have fun! :yes:
nzspokes
20th February 2015, 20:14
So who can tell me how old your tyres are?
granda
20th February 2015, 21:06
So who can tell me how old your tyres are?
ah I know this one. I was listening last time you told us. But I wont spoil the party. Anyone else
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