South Auckland Street Skills

[Kartik]

I will be there tonight guys.

[Sis]

You like a dirty boy?

Oh Yeah........

[bawked]

Honda track day on Saturday still has places in the novice group. And it seems to be a training day with arron slight. Other makes of bikes are allowed.

I'd love to go but I've got to help the Mrs move up :/ so annoying

[Theantidote]

Hope yall enjoyed the ride tonight...doubt youll c me for a wee while as thunder beach is fast approaching, so me n boi need a few extra browniee points...plus surf to surf this weekend...
For those aSASSins that joined me for the first friday nite coffee run...next 1 will b 21st november....heading out bout same time...if no objections head to same place but different route home....weather permiting as riding in wet is not he purpose of this twilight run....pm me for more deets....
Ride safe people

[Kartik]

Great ride tonight although a little bit wet. Thanks Sis. :D

[Sis]

Great to practise in the rain when there is no pressure.

[Theantidote]

Great to practise in the rain when there is no pressure.

I had some greaaaaaat practice today....distracted for a second, foot full of rear brake, cold tires and very slippery white road markings....plus rear end of car in front approaching rapidly....snaked along the road like a freak....lesson, dont get distracted,increase following distance and focuss hard out....and maybe practice some more wet road braking in a safe environment....ride safe yall

[bawked]

I had some greaaaaaat practice today....distracted for a second, foot full of rear brake, cold tires and very slippery white road markings....plus rear end of car in front approaching rapidly....snaked along the road like a freak....lesson, dont get distracted,increase following distance and focuss hard out....and maybe practice some more wet road braking in a safe environment....ride safe yall

I had some sideways action the other day, it's happened a few times since i've gotten the cbr. Much touchier rear brake :pinch: Definitely wakes you up though ;)

[Sis]

See, all that practise with your braking has helped. You can feel the rear wheel misbehaving and you have kept your eyes up etc. Well done for keeping the rubber side down and the shiney side

[Maakz]

Hey guys, this weeks been tough in terms of work. Glad yous had a good ride out and practice in the rain. Theantidote-och, good work staying upright and riding or should I say 'snaking' it out.

[Sis]

He was just showing off his skills.
Probably wasted on those cage drivers.

[Theantidote]

Lol....i think it was more good luck than anything else....plus the threat of a cage ploughing me into the tarmac...kept me upright...
Next friday nite twighlight ride will b 21st leaving drury at about 730 this time....

[Grandad]

Well not the best day for riding today. Tomorrow looking better. Where is everyone heading?

[nzspokes]

I did 200kph in it. Got a bit interesting when a Duc that passed me didnt make the next turn. Jacked it in just after lunch.

Tomorrow is getting my bike off the trailer and try to get Sharrys bike going.

[Sis]

Well not the best day for riding today. Tomorrow looking better. Where is everyone heading?

I went out to Ardmore this morning and had coffee with a bunch of Ulyssians.

[Grandad]

I did 200kph in it. Got a bit interesting when a Duc that passed me didnt make the next turn. Jacked it in just after lunch.

Tomorrow is getting my bike off the trailer and try to get Sharrys bike going.

OMG not the best thing to do to a Duc. All ok I hope. Hope you get Sharry's going .

[Grandad]

I went out to Ardmore this morning and had coffee with a bunch of Ulyssians.

If its fine pillion and I are going to head down to the cafe just up Sh25 from SH2. Could be good ride via Kaiaua

[Sis]

I have a Committee meeting this week so wont be there.

[nzspokes]

Longer ride then. Who wants to go where?

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[Tigadee]

As long as nothing else happens (now that I've got my new battery and sparks), I will be there (I know, I know, said that before many a time...)

I'm keen for a long ride!

[Theantidote]

I think ive over worked myself over the last few months, struggling in so many ways...hence i think the best ill manage if its fine is to come down and say hi at the starting point...at least until after thunder beach...ride safe yall

[nzspokes]

Anybody feel like a long long ride tonight?

[Kartik]

Yes, I will be keen. Sounds like a good plan.

[nzspokes]

Ride im thinking of is about 140ks. Let me know if that doesn't suit those that are coming.

[Kartik]

Ride im thinking of is about 140ks. Let me know if that doesn't suit those that are coming.
That sounds good Rob. I'll be okay with that. Cheers

[Sushi Bandit]

There's a good chance I'll be able to make it tonight. Keen for a longer ride if everyone else is. Where were ya thinking?

[nzspokes]

Miranda loop.

[Sushi Bandit]

I'll be there. Keen for the Miranda Loop.

[bawked]

Miranda loop.

hell yes :2thumbsup

[Tigadee]

:yes: I'll go partway... got to pick up family from the airport later tonight.

[Kartik]

What a night! Quite a decent ride till it lasted. Thanks for all your help guys with the puncture. Peter, you are a life saver, if you didn't have the puncture kit, I'm not sure what I would have done.

Sorry to have cut your ride short.

Will be taking the bike to cycletreads this weekend to get the tyre checked.


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[Grandad]

What a night! Quite a decent ride till it lasted. Thanks for all your help guys with the puncture. Peter, you are a life saver, if you didn't have the puncture kit, I'm not sure what I would have done.

Sorry to have cut your ride short.

Will be taking the bike to cycletreads this weekend to get the tyre checked.


No worries that's what we ride together for. We all learnt how to use a puncture/co2 kit and yes if you do it right it works. Wont be too tricky if we ever have to do one again.
Great ride though. Really nice outlook over the Thames still as a mill pond. Roll on summer and more great rides.

[aws]

Yeah, I'm glad I opted for my winter gloves this evening! I almost picked up my summer gloves and it would have been a bit cold after dark. Not a bad ride though.

[Tigadee]

Wow, looks like I missed a bit! A new story at SASS next time!;)

AWS - Yeah, I swapped to my winter gloves when I turned back at Kawakawa... So glad I did!

[Kartik]

Wow, looks like I missed a bit! A new story at SASS next time!;)

AWS - Yeah, I swapped to my winter gloves when I turned back at Kawakawa... So glad I did!
Yeah mate, it was quite a night. We had just stopped for a bit when we heard a hissing sound and it turned out to be my rear tyre leaking with that bloody nail inside it. Luckily I had Rob, Andrew and Peter to help me out. So got home all right.

[nzspokes]

Great ride last night and we all learned something. I reckon any that were there could fix a puncture now. :niceone:

Remember we wont leave a rider on the side of the road at Sass, so no matter what we will get you home. I am looking at carrying more tools.

At my work we sell the CO2 carts so I may by a box of big ones.

Now Tigadee, do you have something to tell us about a downhill corner?

[Gremlin]

At my work we sell the CO2 carts so I may by a box of big ones.
air compressor :yes:

[Grandad]

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What a night! Quite a decent ride till it lasted. Thanks for all your help guys with the puncture. Peter, you are a life saver, if you didn't have the puncture kit, I'm not sure what I would have done.

Sorry to have cut your ride short.

Will be taking the bike to cycletreads this weekend to get the tyre checked.
No worries that's what we ride together for. We all learnt how to use a puncture/co2 kit and yes if you do it right it works. Wont be too tricky if we ever have to do one again.
Great ride though. Really nice outlook over the Thames still as a mill pond. Roll on summer and more great rides.
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[Theantidote]

So glad kartik made it home...bloody builders leaving their shit everywhere...kinda wish i was there for the tutorial...good ethos mr spokes, no rider left behind...evensome of the ulyses riders in charge could learn bout that...
Just on a side note....friday nite kroad cafe run is on again...and the weathers gonna be awesome...leave my place about 730ish...relaxed ride into town, grab some eats then coffee b4 a slow pootle through the burbs home...pm me if youre keen
Ride safe yall....

[Grandad]

Seems a few of us need to improve or technique in downhill riding. Struggled a bit in a few places there. easy to get ahead of yourself then whoops got a problem.

[nzspokes]

air compressor :yes:

MTB pump. :Punk:

[eldog]

Great ride last night and we all learned something. I reckon any that were there could fix a puncture now. :niceone:

Remember we wont leave a rider on the side of the road at Sass, so no matter what we will get you home. I am looking at carrying more tools.

At my work we sell the CO2 carts so I may by a box of big ones.

Now Tigadee, do you have something to tell us about a downhill corner?

It is this type of stuff that i wanted to find out about when i started with SASS, found out the hard way on my own with 2 flat tyes, lucky it wasnt out in the sticks like you Kartik, but its something i want to be able to do by myself. There is a lot of things like this, learners don't know about that makes SASS a good place to ask questions and get advice. Good on you guys, just a pity i wasnt there to learn too.

[Kartik]

It is this type of stuff that i wanted to find out about when i started with SASS, found out the hard way on my own with 2 flat tyes, lucky it wasnt out in the sticks like you Kartik, but its something i want to be able to do by myself. There is a lot of things like this, learners don't know about that makes SASS a good place to ask questions and get advice. Good on you guys, just a pity i wasnt there to learn too.

Oh that would have sucked, having 2 flat tyres. But yes, it was indeed a great learning experience and I think if it happens again, I will be able to do it myself. I'm going to buy one of those awesome puncture repair kits.

Also found out I actually have roadside assistance through my insurance company. Lol.

[Sushi Bandit]

Also found out I actually have roadside assistance through my insurance company. Lol.

Are you with Protecta?

[eldog]

Oh that would have sucked, having 2 flat tyres. But yes, it was indeed a great learning experience and I think if it happens again, I will be able to do it myself. I'm going to buy one of those awesome puncture repair kits.

Also found out I actually have roadside assistance through my insurance company. Lol.

I was ok, learnt how to remove and replace both the front and rear tyres myself, its a good idea to know how to do the basics. Expect to have NO cell phone coverage. Its outside Jafaland. So its important to know how to fix on the side of the road punctures in tubed and tubeless tyres and what we need to have on board, to get ourselves out of strife. :wait:

Roadside AS-SIS-tance is that when Sis comes and fixes your tyre? :rolleyes: or arrives and says I did it on my own back in the day (prob used the hot chickie babe card too) :killingme

must check that out, if I still have insurance that is, well worth the effort :niceone:

Tigadee was you thinkin of your stomach on the down hill run or was it a Banana skin? :banana:

[Kartik]

Are you with Protecta?
Hey sushi, No, I am with Star insurance through kiwibike.

Had a protecta policy on my previous bike and they also had roadside assistance.

[nzspokes]

Anybody interested in learning a bit about Bike Mechanics next Sunday?

[eldog]

Anybody interested in learning a bit about Bike Mechanics next Sunday?

+1/2 for me, i don't know one end of a bike from another, which way do you sit or is it side saddle? Were do i put the keys? on the seat? let me know.

[Kartik]

Anybody interested in learning a bit about Bike Mechanics next Sunday?
Yup. I would be interested in this. Sounds like a good idea. Something that will be very helpful. Let me know when and where. :D

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[Tigadee]

Tigadee was you thinkin of your stomach on the down hill run or was it a Banana skin? :banana:

Yeah, heard there was good eatings at the Kawakawa takaway... :bleh:

[nzspokes]

I will update a bit later on the mechanic idea.

In the meantime this is a good little watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aQMpl0pwtE

[Tigadee]

Anybody interested in learning a bit about Bike Mechanics next Sunday?

Would like to if I can keep that day clear (got me mum in town till Christmas...)

[eldog]

Yeah, heard there was good eatings at the Kawakawa takaway... :bleh:

Yep, Fried Tigadee Roadkill with leather lashings for those in need. :innocent: think about it.

[Tigadee]

Now Tigadee, do you have something to tell us about a downhill corner?

Yeah, a sphincter tightening moment... :apumpin: Pucker up baby!

Basically came in too hot into one of the last corners before Kawakawa. It was very tight, right up to the edge of the road and skidded a bit coming out of it. Kept my cool and stayed off the brakes, leaned more and kept the throttle steady.

Then used the rear brake as soon as the rear gripped again and then applied gently on the front as well to slow down, drop down a gear, off the brakes and into the last corner...

Put it down to unfamiliar road, too fast entry (should have dropped down another gear), and also found out later on the way home my rear tyre was over-inflated by 10 psi (50 psi instead of 40). I always do well on familiar corners but sometimes forget caution when approaching unfamiliar ones, and this was downhill (which I misjudged) too...

[eldog]

Yeah, a sphincter tightening moment... :apumpin: Pucker up baby!

Basically came in too hot into one of the last corners before Kawakawa. It was very tight, right up to the edge of the road and skidded a bit coming out of it. Kept my cool and stayed off the brakes, leaned more and kept the throttle steady.

Then used the rear brake as soon as the rear gripped again and then applied gently on the front as well to slow down, drop down a gear, off the brakes and into the last corner...

Put it down to unfamiliar road, too fast entry (should have dropped down another gear), and also found out later on the way home my rear tyre was over-inflated by 10 psi (50 psi instead of 40). I always do well on familiar corners but sometimes forget caution when approaching unfamiliar ones, and this was downhill (which I misjudged) too...

lucky about the slide esp in that spot, would have been worse in the wet. :facepalm:


did you check the tyres when they are cold? Always check them when cold. The Scorpio is notorious for losing tyre pressure, must be all the wheelies and stoppies, I guess :yes:

[Tigadee]

did you check the tyres when they are cold? Always check them when cold.

I wanted to at the start-out Z station but their pump was out of commission. I stopped into the one at Clevedon on the way back...


The Scorpio is notorious for losing tyre pressure, must be all the wheelies and stoppies, I guess

That's why they come with hard-lasting nylon tyres... LOL

[Big Dog]

That can be a case when either the carcass is damaged or you were too low to start with. Sidewall flex generates a lot of heat. This can lead to a lot of margin of error in the reading. Also it is rare for a gas station pump to be accurate.
Okay as a fall back, but generally it has not been treated well. Between people over inflating, dropping the unit, being left in the weather, run over etc.

I don't know I they still have them but last year acc were giving away pressure gauges in exchange for filling out a survey. Of 10 to $140 will get you a pocket one depending on what features you want.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[eldog]

I wanted to at the start-out Z station but their pump was out of commission. I stopped into the one at Clevedon on the way back...

That's why they come with hard-lasting nylon tyres... LOL

Changed the tyres as soon as I figured out they were not good in the wet :yes:

Did you have the gauge upside down when you read it? :corn:

[Tigadee]

Did you have the gauge upside down when you read it?

LOL Where do you think we are, the north pole?!


That can be a case when either the carcass is damaged or you were too low to start with. Sidewall flex generates a lot of heat. This can lead to a lot of margin of error in the reading. Also it is rare for a gas station pump to be accurate.

True that, and that was in the middle of a ride too...

[nzspokes]

Tyres should be checked cold. And rechecked cold. Huge difference between 36 psi cold and hot. I have a pressure Guage and bicycle pump at home.

[eldog]

LOL Where do you think we are, the north pole?!

No I thought you might have been reading it upside down or anticlockwise, to get to 50 OMG :bleh:

even tractors don't have that high a pressure :rolleyes: Note to self, check tyre pressure of tractor owners

NZSPOKES: Scorpio tyre pressure generally 3-4 PSI higher when hot and the tyre feels good, any less and its not grippy enough!

[nzspokes]

If I check my rear tyre hot I have seen 50psi. But was set 38 cold.

[eldog]

If I check my rear tyre hot I have seen 50psi. But was set 38 cold.

on a normal SASS run? or a track day? you don't carry that much gear.

Remember this is a learners site, I remember what happened last time and I have been away almost 2+ months.
OK if your tyres get that hot, then I am happy with that.

[nzspokes]

Yes at a track day, on a long ride and with a pillion. Sass we ride on cold roads at lower speeds.

[f2dz]

Anyone got their anti-rain dance ready?

These clouds in the city aren't looking too promising..

[nzspokes]

Will be a little drizzle if anything.

[Sis]

I will be there and wont bother to put on my wet gear.
Should I bring the gear to keep the rain away?

[eldog]

I will be there and wont bother to put on my wet gear.
Should I bring the gear to keep the rain away?

You should dry your gear before putting it away. You should put some gear on thou :facepalm:
It should hold off till I get home :bye:

Prefer riding in the rain :woohoo:

[f2dz]

I think I might be running 5-10 min late. I'll flick Jayne a txt if I end up too late.

[bawked]

Not going to be there tonight, too bloody tired haha

[Sis]

Bringing the wet gear with me worked. No rain.
And it was a nice evening for photos. Good light.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/50576885@N06/15560543990/in/photostream/

[nzspokes]

My idea for mechanical stuff is this.

Sharons CBR needs to come apart for a rebuild. Fairings are off along with many other parts. I reckon I could get it down to a bare frame in 2 and a bit hours. So if anybody wants to pull a bike right apart and see how it all works then rock over on Sunday in old clothes. We will warm the bike up and drain the oil, then move on from there. We will be removing head bearings etc.

If you have specifics of what you would like to know then this is the time to find out, so ask.

if interested let me know a time that would suit.

[bawked]

My idea for mechanical stuff is this.

Sharons CBR needs to come apart for a rebuild. Fairings are off along with many other parts. I reckon I could get it down to a bare frame in 2 and a bit hours. So if anybody wants to pull a bike right apart and see how it all works then rock over on Sunday in old clothes. We will warm the bike up and drain the oil, then move on from there. We will be removing head bearings etc.

If you have specifics of what you would like to know then this is the time to find out, so ask.

if interested let me know a time that would suit.

I could be keen, depends on whether I get the zxr running or not.

[Tigadee]

Spokes - I'll not be able to make it. This sounds like a good exercise though, and is a very good and rare opportunity...


I could be keen, depends on whether I get the zxr running or not.

You've got two bikes now, so no worries? :laugh:

[f2dz]

I'm keen for this also but not sure how I'm placed for Sunday yet.

I'll work towards whatever time you're gonna start, Rob.

[Kartik]

I'm also keen for this on Sunday. I don't have anything else planned on that day. So anytime would suit me. As long as it's not too early in the morning. Lol.

[nzspokes]

We will go with 10am. I will pm my address tonight.

[eldog]

I will be there Sunday - interested in triple tree - assembly, throttle controls, rear swing arm and shock mounting for project bike

Maybe we should start on something simplier like a TRACTOR, could have fun putting THAT back together :msn-wink:

[Sis]

I will be there Sunday - interested in triple tree - assembly, throttle controls, rear swing arm and shock mounting for project bike

Maybe we should start on something simplier like a TRACTOR, could have fun putting THAT back together :msn-wink:

OK now I am biting on that bait.
Said tractor is going to get a price from AMPS tomorrow for the bits that I cannot do. Also going to let them look at the crack. I don't really want that repaired, just the hole that is behind/underneath it. Or a new exhaust system but I can't really afford it. Over the phone they have all ready told me that if the belt is not damaged, don't replace it.
Tomorrow they view the bike.
Will be asking for a price.

[eldog]

My idea for mechanical stuff is this.

Sharons CBR needs to come apart for a rebuild. Fairings are off along with many other parts. I reckon I could get it down to a bare frame in 2 and a bit hours. So if anybody wants to pull a bike right apart and see how it all works then rock over on Sunday in old clothes. We will warm the bike up and drain the oil, then move on from there. We will be removing head bearings etc.

If you have specifics of what you would like to know then this is the time to find out, so ask.

Spokes, it was awesome, we got to ask the dumb questions (I did anyway) and you answered by getting us to do it ourselves, which is the best way of making sure the answer sticks.

Kartik and Bawked - awesome leadership, good riding and great decisions esp overtaking. It was a great ride.
Its great to ride with friends.

[Kartik]

Spokes, it was awesome, we got to ask the dumb questions (I did anyway) and you answered by getting us to do it ourselves, which is the best way of making sure the answer sticks.

Kartik and Bawked - awesome leadership, good riding and great decisions esp overtaking. It was a great ride.
Its great to ride with friends.
Yup, was a great time. Really cool stuff and very educational. I even got to do dumb things. Lol.

It was great ride, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Had to be very cautious in the last bit when it started to rain.

[nzspokes]

Glad you guys liked it. Bikes are pretty easy to work on.

Sounds like you had a good ride after to.:niceone:

[eldog]

Yup, was a great time. Really cool stuff and very educational. I even got to do dumb things. Lol.

It was great ride, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Had to be very cautious in the last bit when it started to rain.

You rode just how I would have, but you both did it better. I was just watching and learning from you both. I have a lot of work to do.
As expected injuries have become enflamed.
Yes the flash rain did make it interesting.
Look through the corner, try to steer a path to keep the shiny surface to a minimum when wet and very hot (my 2 cents)

[f2dz]

Sound like you guys had a good Sunday. Was gutted I couldn't make it, but I had a few things I had to tidy up.

I guess we'll see you at SASS on Tuesday then, eldog? Good to hear you're riding again.

[eldog]

Sound like you guys had a good Sunday. Was gutted I couldn't make it, but I had a few things I had to tidy up.

I guess we'll see you at SASS on Tuesday then, eldog? Good to hear you're riding again.

Riding on weekend has meant shoulder and foot flared up again, its worse than before, maybe I shouldn't have lifted the frame. :crazy:
So no at SASS and yes it was nice riding. From what its feeling it will be a while till I am back on the bike, bugger.:eek5:
Excellent to see the others riding to the conditions and those behind (me). So the ideals at SASS have sunk in :niceone:

[nzspokes]

I will be there tomorrow but not the following week. My son's birthday. Making up for it with a track day the following Thursday night.

[eldog]

I will be there tomorrow but not the following week. My son's birthday. Making up for it with a track day the following Thursday night.

Taking your son to the track for his birthday COOL!

[Tigadee]

- interested in triple tree -

Oh? Someone getting a Street triple some time soon? :msn-wink:

[eldog]

Oh? Someone getting a Street triple some time soon? :msn-wink:

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps! :devil2: (use Marilyn Monroes' silky voice)

looks perfect for a ride tonight.

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[f2dz]

I was going to pass on tonight to catch up on some work but the weather is too good to pass up.

I'll be thur.

[Maakz]

Um back!!!! and ready to ride. I will be there tonight, MYs a bit dirty but what the hey...:bleh:

[Kartik]

I'll also be there tonight, but don't think I'll come to the pub....

[Ninjacookie]

Was planning to come and ride tonight - but I'm afraid I'll have to pass. I'm tired enough to be dangerous so don't want to risk it. Shift work blows, just putting that out there.

[f2dz]

Thanks for the ride y'all. Great night for it.


Was planning to come and ride tonight - but I'm afraid I'll have to pass. I'm tired enough to be dangerous so don't want to risk it. Shift work blows, just putting that out there.

Fair enough. Cya next time.

[Theantidote]

I too was gonna turn up and say hi....but 1 event after another at work left me unsafe to ride...but a good now...

So anyone keen for a friday nite ride next week....?

[nzspokes]

Had anew riding experience today. Fire.

Center strip on George bolt Drive was on fire. Guess somebody flicked a ciggy butt into it. Was kinda smoky. :laugh:

[nzspokes]

Oh and how do I sign up for this Odessy thing?

[Sis]

Oh and how do I sign up for this Odessy thing?

It is a sticky under Meetings and Events
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/168497-Inaugural-Northern-Odyssey

[f2dz]

I'm keen for that too, but I'll sign up later. I always like leaving things til the last minute. :P

I'm thinking of doing a Coro Loop tomorrow. Just gotta get a haircut in the morning then aimng to leave mid morning. Send me a PM if you're keen.

[Tigadee]

Just gotta get a haircut in the morning...

Yup, that's a must do... Even better-er - Shave yer head, better aerodynamics and not helmet hair as well... Summer's coming, after all! :laugh:

[f2dz]

Definitely trying to tone down the helmet hair, but not so sure I'd suit the bald look.

Will be aiming to leave Auckland around 11am or so, weather permitting.

[nzspokes]

Only just caught up with this. Ooops. I went out on a gear hunt this morning. Got a few items, gotta love sales.

We are heading down Kaiaua for Fush and Chups later today if anybody is about.

[nzspokes]

About to do some more work on the CBR. Get the frame prepped for paint and strip the oil leak area on the motor.

May head out for a ride later in the day.

[bawked]

I'm going to head out for a ride 11ish is anyone is keen, gotta be back at 2 tho for cricket.

[nzspokes]

Will be after lunch before I go for a ride.

Found the source of the oil leaks on the CBR, very dead Orings. So will track down some new ones and seals for that whole assembly.

[nzspokes]

Went up 16. Nice day for it. Had a ute pull out of a driveway when I was doing 90. That was a bit exciting.

Couple of slips on tar bleeds to. Getting hot out there.

[eldog]

Went up 16. Nice day for it. Had a ute pull out of a driveway when I was doing 90. That was a bit exciting.

Couple of slips on tar bleeds to. Getting hot out there.

Did you evaluate the situation previous to him pulling out, if YES then excellent

Tar Bleed and Snakes my current favourite soapbox, nasty n the wet, nasty in the heat, nasty.

Scenic Drive, Kingseat, Tuakau all have interesting areas for Tar bleed. Keep your eyes open.

New seal on part of a corner another good one.

And whoever designs metal road covers in the beginning, middle, end of a corner.

We should put them on a bike just to see how they feel

Good things to discuss at SASS, = SEE, can anyone tell me what that means?

[nzspokes]

Reminder that I wont be there tomorrow.

Constantly reviewing road conditions is critical. I saw the bleeds which were small and just relaxed.

[eldog]

Reminder that I wont be there tomorrow.

Constantly reviewing road conditions is critical. I saw the bleeds which were small and just relaxed.

It was meant for newer people to think about, like me who sometimes forget that tar becomes slippery when hot.
I have to be careful, the Scorpio likes things like tar snakes, grooves etc which the tyres follow. I followed a crack for quite a while this year. :shutup:

[aws]

Might be different on the Scorpio, but I find that when my tyres start to follow joints on the road, it's a sign that they almost due for replacement (i.e. they're getting squared off)

[eldog]

Might be different on the Scorpio, but I find that when my tyres start to follow joints on the road, it's a sign that they almost due for replacement (i.e. they're getting squared off)

The Scorpio is a great learning tool, you find out all sorts of things, that a heavier bike wont show you, even how to desquare a tyre. :facepalm:
AWS - next time have a quick go on the Scorpio, you will see. I still have lots more learning on it to do, before I step up.
Its great for trying stuff out and the odd stuff up. :brick:

[bawked]

I had a massive drift on the weekend on sky high, which was exciting to say the least. Another reminder that my rear tire needs replacing lol That's 3 reminders now so better get it done. :sweatdrop

[nzspokes]

I had a massive drift on the weekend on sky high, which was exciting to say the least. Another reminder that my rear tire needs replacing lol That's 3 reminders now so better get it done. :sweatdrop

Its not always the tyres but if it needs doing, get it done before you get hurt.

[eldog]

Bawked, I am +1 With Spokes.

Get it checked out
check out the road - is there something there you didn't see?
fuel level
your position on the bike
your position on the road
your bike - anything loose
your tyres
your suspension

are your tyres warmed up

you are lucky its a 3x warning.

I had no warning, hate to see it happen to you.
Just do the simple checks

Maybe get someone to watch you in that spot, see if they can see (or video) what is happening

3x warnings - did you learn how to react? which is a good thing

[xXGIBBOXx]

I had a massive drift on the weekend on sky high, which was exciting to say the least. Another reminder that my rear tire needs replacing lol That's 3 reminders now so better get it done. :sweatdrop

Mine was a half high side in the wet , back let go bucked tried the kick me off . seat looks good spokes , Nick lower back support yeah ? . Went of a ride on Sunday , dumb slow people on Sunday drives .lol and yeah I will come back for a ride on night , it will be a surprise when :Punk:

[nzspokes]

Mine was a half high side in the wet , back let go bucked tried the kick me off . seat looks good spokes , Nick lower back support yeah ? . Went of a ride on Sunday , dumb slow people on Sunday drives .lol and yeah I will come back for a ride on night , it will be a surprise when :Punk:

Seat work was mainly for my pillion. Side effect is im more cumfy.

Yes Sunday drivers are a problem.

[xXGIBBOXx]

Yes Sunday drivers are a problem.

I don't mind slow drivers , But when they are doing 70 in a 100 zone and won't move to let me passed grrrrrr . And yeah traffic coming the other way and my little horse needs a run up to pass

[eldog]

I don't mind slow drivers ,But when they are doing 70 in a 100 zone and won't move to let me passed grrrrrr . And yeah traffic coming the other way and my little horse needs a run up to pass

Same as you regarding slow drivers, women mostly :bleh:.

If your horse needs a run up, I need the whole of a downhill run just to get level. I do remember passing someone .... once. :wings:

[nzspokes]

Same as you reaging slow drivers, women mostly :bleh:.

If your horse needs a run up, I need the whole of a downhill run just to get level. I do remember passing someone .... once. :wings:

Scorpios dont look slow to me. Maybe some more revs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9HbZf4alMg

[xXGIBBOXx]

Damn that looks fun ! Close balls out racing

[eldog]

Scorpios dont look slow to me. Maybe some more revs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9HbZf4alMg

Seems to have a large amount of dead weight attached to the top of the bike. Remove that and who knows.

Maybe I should get it into racing trim and remove some lights, the dead weight, reduce the fuel tank by half, reduce the seat, remove the mudguards etc

reduce the rear sprocket size or two, remove the chrome bits and only have a rev counter, only indicate with my finger like all the other riders.

Widen the handle bars, remove the centre stand, paint it Italian Red (it will go faster automatically)

then

Would almost have the performance of a 650 single. :chase:

Just looked at video, thats a whole lot of stuff for me to look at. Inspirational. This is the area I am looking at improving next, cornering.

Its the type of track we need. Inside a larger one for bigger bikes or longer tracks.

Maybe like the one in Queenstown?

[bawked]

It seems the cbr has worse brakes than the zxr, they are pretty spongy compared.

I'm not too worried about rear brake slides, they are quite controllable on a motorbike but it is annoying. I think its due to the tire, the fact I have better pedal leverage on the cbr and the front brake is a lot more progressive.

I was playing around with my braking after the slide, which is when I really noticed how much I have to pull the lever to get the fronts really stopping me.

[eldog]

It seems the cbr has worse brakes than the zxr, they are pretty spongy compared.

I'm not too worried about rear brake slides, they are quite controllable on a motorbike but it is annoying. I think its due to the tire, the fact I have better pedal leverage on the cbr and the front brake is a lot more progressive.

I was playing around with my braking after the slide, which is when I really noticed how much I have to pull the lever to get the fronts really stopping me.

Ok, I must have misread your original post, thought you were talking about rear wheel slides. :scratch:
Had great fun at SASS practising those in the car park.
Now I am trying to get a better feel for the rear brake pedal - so it doesn't lock up and cornering still eludes me :eek:

[nzspokes]

It seems the cbr has worse brakes than the zxr, they are pretty spongy compared.

I'm not too worried about rear brake slides, they are quite controllable on a motorbike but it is annoying. I think its due to the tire, the fact I have better pedal leverage on the cbr and the front brake is a lot more progressive.

I was playing around with my braking after the slide, which is when I really noticed how much I have to pull the lever to get the fronts really stopping me.

Make sure the bleed in them is good. If it looks ok then tie the lever back to the bar overnight so any bubbles can rise. When you do that tap the lines with a spanner to give them a hand. Seems to work well.

[eldog]

Make sure the bleed in them is good. If it looks ok then tie the lever back to the bar overnight so any bubbles can rise. When you do that tap the lines with a spanner to give them a hand. Seems to work well.

If you aren't sure get someone who you can trust to do it, properly. I get brake bleeding by people who do it for a living.

Nothing wrong with Spokes advice he's done it a few times, I am sure.

FYI My relly died following his brakes being incorrectly adjusted at a workshop (that's what I'm told) and that's a major reason why the delay in motorcycle activity for my whole life and since my little incident.

[Kartik]

Sorry guys. I can't make it tonight. See you all next week.

[Maakz]

Well, it started hosing down here half an hour ago and if it keeps it up um disinclined to wanna move my couch potato butt from PC range and jump on my butterbean chrome pony. Early finish from work today...woohoo BOSS!! Really enjoying making like a sloth bear...and like being dry and warm.

[f2dz]

I won't be there either tonight sorry. Cya next week.

[Sis]

What is about the younger generations??? :oi-grr:
A little bit of water, not even raining.
Back in my day, when I had to ride the horse to school,:rolleyes: there was never any discussion about staying in. I am not sure if raincoats were even invented way back then.

Well, I will be at the start point with my current horse, even though it really is a tractor.

[eldog]

What is about the younger generations??? :oi-grr:
A little bit of water, not even raining.
Back in my day, when I had to ride the horse to school,:rolleyes: there was never any discussion about staying in. I am not sure if raincoats were even invented way back then.

Well, I will be at the start point with my current horse, even though it really is a tractor.

You know why I am not there, its to pay for the feed for my horse :bleh:

ride almost in no matter what the weather and you had a very short horse or was it a pit pony, luxury - we had to walk.

Prefer the Clydesdales and other working horses - magnificent.

You ride a tractor never would have guessed :bleh:

[Big Dog]

If you aren't sure get someone who you can trust to do it, properly. I get brake bleeding by people who do it for a living.

Nothing wrong with Spokes advice he's done it a few times, I am sure.

FYI My relly died following his brakes being incorrectly adjusted at a workshop (that's what I'm told) and that's a major reason why the delay in motorcycle activity for my whole life and since my little incident.

Ironically this is why I don't let others do my brakes.
Brakes are not that complicated a technology unless you have an ABS system. Them I would not touch without tuition.
If I am going to make a mess up because a bum job was done on my brakes I'd rather it was my fault. To be fair I have departed on a bike with the caliper incorrectly secured once. For about 10 feet before I did my regular test squeeze.
On the other hand using mechanics I have had a few incidents... usually when the mechanic has gone for smoko right about the time they finished the job on my brakes.
To date that has been:
* Brakes not bled after fluid change.
* Reservoir not secured, levers etc rotate around the bars.
* Brake pad in crooked, preventing free movement.
* Shims left out making brakes noisy.
* Bottom banjo not tightened.


Fortunately only one has resulted in me leaving a mechanics before I noticed. The levers rotating around the bar one. tested fine. Just did not stand up to a full emergency stop... fortunately I managed to gas it around the object of distraction.

[bawked]

Yeah, i'll bleed them at some point. Probably this weekend, if i can be bothered.

Not going to be there tonight either, as I just got home from pokeno.

[eldog]

Ironically this is why I don't let others do my brakes.
Brakes are not that complicated a technology unless you have an ABS system. Them I would not touch without tuition.
If I am going to make a mess up because a bum job was done on my brakes I'd rather it was my fault. To be fair I have departed on a bike with the caliper incorrectly secured once. For about 10 feet before I did my regular test squeeze.
On the other hand using mechanics I have had a few incidents... usually when the mechanic has gone for smoko right about the time they finished the job on my brakes.
To date that has been:
* Brakes not bled after fluid change.
* Reservoir not secured, levers etc rotate around the bars.
* Brake pad in crooked, preventing free movement.
* Shims left out making brakes noisy.
* Bottom banjo not tightened.


Fortunately only one has resulted in me leaving a mechanics before I noticed. The levers rotating around the bar one. tested fine. Just did not stand up to a full emergency stop... fortunately I managed to gas it around the object of distraction.

If I suffered the same results I would look elsewhere. Rather pay/travel more to get better service.

I know with my 2 left feet and 2 right hands I would get it wrong the first couple of times. After that I would be OK.
I just don't have the confidence, tools, instructions or time at learn at present

I have done some quite nice mods to the bike (at least I think so) by myself.
Would be nice if I could do the brakes too, gives me that feeling of satisfaction/confidence. So good on you for being able.:niceone:

[Big Dog]

If I suffered the same results I would look elsewhere. Rather pay/travel more to get better service.

I know with my 2 left feet and 2 right hands I would get it wrong the first couple of times. After that I would be OK.
I just don't have the confidence, tools, instructions or time at learn at present

I have done some quite nice mods to the bike (at least I think so) by myself.
Would be nice if I could do the brakes too, gives me that feeling of satisfaction/confidence. So good on you for being able.:niceone:

All humans are fallible. Most mechs see brakes as a doddle and some don't give their undivided, especially in a busy workshop where they may be doing an oil change on another stand and doing an oil change on your own while they are at it.
I on the other hand give it my undivided attention and it is the only job I will tackle until it is done. No breaks and no distractions.

That said, a few minor techincalities over 500,000kms divided by 16000kms to the set of brake pads ( I am a bit hard on mine as I do lots of drills ) that is 31 opportunities to get it right. I have done about half. I have only ever had one mech who got it right every time and it was not me.

[nzspokes]

What is about the younger generations??? :oi-grr:
A little bit of water, not even raining.
Back in my day, when I had to ride the horse to school,:rolleyes: there was never any discussion about staying in. I am not sure if raincoats were even invented way back then.

Well, I will be at the start point with my current horse, even though it really is a tractor.

Im not long home from my boys birthday. Happy times.

I didnt realize horses had evolved when you were at school........:nya:





This is going to hurt, but it was worth it.

[nzspokes]

Yeah, i'll bleed them at some point. Probably this weekend, if i can be bothered.

Not going to be there tonight either, as I just got home from pokeno.

Couple of pro tips. Wip the calipers off and pull the pads. Make up wooden plugs to take the place of the rotor and pads. That way if you spill any it wont kill your pads.

Get a syringe from a vet and some tube. Push the fluid in from the calipers. I always get a faster and cleaner bleed that way.

[Sis]

Did the West/Twilight circuit tonight. Corner practise. Also turned out to be dodge the boy racers practise. Never seen so many wannabees on the roads. I think the bikes make them realise how unimportant cars really are, and they have to show what small appendages they really have. :shit:
Luckily we avoided them all.:woohoo:Good SASS practise.:wings:

[Big Dog]

Couple of pro tips. Wip the calipers off and pull the pads. Make up wooden plugs to take the place of the rotor and pads. That way if you spill any it wont kill your pads.

Get a syringe from a vet and some tube. Push the fluid in from the calipers. I always get a faster and cleaner bleed that way.

Perhaps your next mech afternoon? I'm sure plenty would be keen to hear how to service brakes.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[nzspokes]

Perhaps your next mech afternoon? I'm sure plenty would be keen to hear how to service brakes.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

I had thought that and probably will when I reassemble Sharrys CBR. I will try to dig out my procedure manual from when I was training it.

Need to rebuild the calipers first.

[nzspokes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FiPgAMXZKI

[eldog]

I had thought that and probably will when I reassemble Sharrys CBR. I will try to dig out my procedure manual from when I was training it.

Need to rebuild the calipers first.

I would be keen for this, but not this weekend. Its already booked out (no riding-working)
Prefer 2 weekends away minimum, get the Xmas stuff gone.

Nice to spend time learning new stuff and getting down and dirty (not in the horse shit) :cool:

[nzspokes]

I would be keen for this, but not this weekend. Its already booked out (no riding-working)
Prefer 2 weekends away minimum, get the Xmas stuff gone.

Nice to spend time learning new stuff and getting down and dirty (not in the horse shit) :cool:

Wouldn't be until well after Xmas anyway. I need to order calliper kits etc. Will be one of the last jobs on the bike.

[eldog]

Wouldn't be until well after Xmas anyway. I need to order calliper kits etc. Will be one of the last jobs on the bike.

Cool with that, anything else we might be interested in while you work away.
You arn't thinking of making a carbon fibre frame are you? Changing the wheel size? Fitting a supercharger or anything?

Might be interested if you strip it down to the insides gearbox and valve timing stuff just to see the insides and how they all work.
I suppose the front suspension will remain the same or are you going to change the setup to suit he new riders mass and reach?
Out of interest really. :rolleyes: see if we can make some more horse power and reliability/comfort

[nzspokes]

Cool with that, anything else we might be interested in while you work away.
You arn't thinking of making a carbon fibre frame are you? Changing the wheel size? Fitting a supercharger or anything?

Might be interested if you strip it down to the insides gearbox and valve timing stuff just to see the insides and how they all work.
I suppose the front suspension will remain the same or are you going to change the setup to suit he new riders mass and reach?
Out of interest really. :rolleyes: see if we can make some more horse power and reliability/comfort

Main changes wil be the bars, so Bandit handle bars with setback risers will go on. Then the shifter on the LH grip. Also re-locate as much as possible down low. Will get a Shorai battery and mount it either below the carbs or where the overflow bottle was. It may be lowered a little. Spring rates will be close. It has 105hp so thats enough.

The Turbo job is for the Superhawk........

[eldog]

Main changes wil be the bars, so Bandit handle bars with setback risers will go on. Then the shifter on the LH grip. Also re-locate as much as possible down low. Will get a Shorai battery and mount it either below the carbs or where the overflow bottle was. It may be lowered a little. Spring rates will be close. It has 105hp so thats enough.

The Turbo job is for the Superhawk........

100+ horses, I will have to pedal faster and get the skills up A LOT. Didnt realise the 600's put out that much.
Obviously going to have to look at sport bike stats for the next bike - yeh right!

Maybe a sports bike after the next one. Who knows what Santa will bring :devil2: (maybe its Sis's old horse and cart)

[nzspokes]

100+ horses, I will have to pedal faster and get the skills up A LOT. Didnt realise the 600's put out that much.
Obviously going to have to look at sport bike stats for the next bike - yeh right!

Maybe a sports bike after the next one. Who knows what Santa will bring :devil2: (maybe its Sis's old horse and cart)

600s have high HP but lower torque. They need to be revved. My bike will take a GSXR600 because it produces torque very low down.

[eldog]

600s have high HP but lower torque. They need to be revved. My bike will take a GSXR600 because it produces torque very low down.

If I win lotto maybe I will get a sports type bike, just to give it a try.
its nice to think about the possibilities.
There is a whole lot of different types of bikes to look at I guess, each has its own + and -

Lot of $ to own multiple bikes for 1 rider. - buggr I wonder if we could electronically register the bike somehow like the Eroad stuff for trucks?
Just 1 bike at a time and do a distance license somehow linked to each bike (upto a maximum $)- dunno really just thinking allowed.
If 2 bikes run at same time, then second license cost would start - some sort of average distance say 25000 ks for a maximum registration cost
OK I have been thinking again -my bad
Or we could share our bikes, everyone buys a particular type and swop, you bend it you fix it - arrangement:clap:like that's going to work

[nzspokes]

If I win lotto maybe I will get a sports type bike, just to give it a try.
its nice to think about the possibilities.


I will stick with the VTR and maybe a tourer.

Mind you, with a Turbo the VTR may be somewhat quick....

[Big Dog]

If I win lotto maybe I will get a sports type bike, just to give it a try.
its nice to think about the possibilities.
There is a whole lot of different types of bikes to look at I guess, each has its own + and -

Lot of $ to own multiple bikes for 1 rider. - buggr I wonder if we could electronically register the bike somehow like the Eroad stuff for trucks?
Just 1 bike at a time and do a distance license somehow linked to each bike (upto a maximum $)- dunno really just thinking allowed.
If 2 bikes run at same time, then second license cost would start - some sort of average distance say 25000 ks for a maximum registration cost
OK I have been thinking again -my bad
Or we could share our bikes, everyone buys a particular type and swop, you bend it you fix it - arrangement:clap:like that's going to work
Once you have your full cheapest way is test rides.... but most ethical is to rent a few. they have rentals for learner riders too but rates vs quality of bike is not terribly favourable.
Even at $1000 a week still cheaper than owing year round if you only wan to go for a spin and not go for regular rides.


When I worked at Red Baron there were a few regulars who had commuters 50 weeks a year and rented something for holiday week.
I have multiple bikes because I started off with the bus and added the scooter and the DR when the i needed to for financial reasons... as a way of not losing the busa. Given the heartache, the cost and the fact that I had to sell it any way less than 30,000 later for nearly 6k less than I had offers for I sometimes wished I had sold her sooner, still bought the DR and rented a bigger bike when needed.

[eldog]

Once you have your full cheapest way is test rides.... but most ethical is to rent a few. they have rentals for learner riders too but rates vs quality of bike is not terribly favourable.
Even at $1000 a week still cheaper than owing year round if you only wan to go for a spin and not go for regular rides.


When I worked at Red Baron there were a few regulars who had commuters 50 weeks a year and rented something for holiday week.
I have multiple bikes because I started off with the bus and added the scooter and the DR when the i needed to for financial reasons... as a way of not losing the busa. Given the heartache, the cost and the fact that I had to sell it any way less than 30,000 later for nearly 6k less than I had offers for I sometimes wished I had sold her sooner, still bought the DR and rented a bigger bike when needed.

Too much of a learner to just turn up and ride off, just yet. Need to get comfortable on a bigger bike than a Scorpio before hiring something bigger. But it sounds like a good idea. Like buying a house you only see the good stuff till you are actually living there.

I learnt a lot about cost of owning an air cooled bike, short intervals between services ben the main one, and selling old model stock.
I am wiser now, and know to ask. I was a real noob. that was the past, i had no one to ask. Just want to pass info on to other noobs.

Yes its sad when you love something and you have to let it go, even when you know things would have been great.
Sometimes the decisions are out of your hands. I have had a few of these, its hard but try not to dwell on it, like I did.
After 3 years I still have the occasional pain but I am getting used to it now. Its in the past. Be happy with what you have and try to make it better. Thats what the bikes for aint it

[Big Dog]

Too much of a learner to just turn up and ride off, just yet. Need to get comfortable on a bigger bike than a Scorpio before hiring something bigger. But it sounds like a good idea. Like buying a house you only see the good stuff ill you are actually living there.

I learnt a lot about cost of owning an air cooled bike, short intervals between services ben the main one, and selling old model stock.
I am wiser now, and know to ask. I was a real noob. that was the past, i had no one to ask. Just want to pass info on to other noobs.

Yes its sad when you love something and you have to let it go, even when you know things would have been great.
Sometimes the decisions are out of your hands. I have had a few of these, its hard but try not to dwell on it, like I did.
After 3 years I still have the occasional pain but I am getting used to it now. Its in the past. Be happy with what you hae and try to make it better. Thats what the bikes for aint it

That it is.

Truth be told, if I had to give up one type o bikes forever I'd probably go with the big bikes. I like them but I feel I get more out of the more utilitarian bikes. Like the DR350. If it had not started blowing oil is probably still have it. Still happily servicing it every second month. 4000km is not very far at 2-3000 per month.

I'd probably go 650 next time round for the servicing interval if I still lived that far.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[eldog]

That it is.

Truth be told, if I had to give up one type o bikes forever I'd probably go with the big bikes. I like them but I feel I get more out of the more utilitarian bikes. Like the DR350. If it had not started blowing oil is probably still have it. Still happily servicing it every second month. 4000km is not very far at 2-3000 per month.

I'd probably go 650 next time round for the servicing interval if I still lived that far.

Long Term I would tend to agree 650-800. nice comfortable, do all kind of bike with minimum fuss. Get on turn the key then off - boring and reliable but suited to most things at a pinch. Bit like a stationwagon or hatchback, but that's when I am too old to ride a horse. :nya:

But like all bikers I wanna try them all first :drool:

Matt when are you coming back?

[Sis]

I am not going to be there this week. Another committee meeting. So people start thinking about who is going to lead and where you want to go. :killingme

[nzspokes]

I will be there this week.

What do people want to practice?

[Big Dog]

But like all bikers I wanna try them all first :drool:

Matt when are you coming back?

Test rides are awesome.
Personally I only risk them when I can afford to buy. I have been known to buy bikes I can't afford when I already have a perfectly good bike. Virtually on a whim.

Bought my GPX when I had only dropped in to make my monthly payment to the workshop. Being a student I just used to give them a fixed amount each month. Sometimes I owed them money because I got all my servicing and gear there.


Bought my GSX1100f when I had gone looking for a middleweight commuter.


Bought my Hayabusa when I went in to see I a jacket that was ordered for me fit. Jacket fit but was unsuitable.

Bought the DR350 while looking for a DR650. Seemed to good of a bike to pass up at the price. I had only gone on a test ride so I could put it out of my mind.

Bought the CB1300 while looking for a 900 hornet or a bandit. Just too good a bike for the money. Probably helped no end by it is physically a good 10% bigger than a hornet.


There is a good reason sales staff are pretty keen to organise test rides. Choosing a bike is all about passion. For some that passion comes from drooling over parts catalogues and spec sheets. For me it is all about what moves me. I do try to find logical reasons not to buy or to buy but final call I go with my gut.

Choosing to buy it is best a financial decision but that is a different yarn.



So far I have bought 8 bikes.
2 based on Logic.
1 based purely on the I can have it now, not in 12 months.
5 based purely on how I felt about the buy.

2 based on logic worked out. Just not thrilling or noteworthy. Also shortest riding periods.
1 I can have it now got traded for my GPX.
5 others I have been stoked with. Owned well beyond a typical term of ownership ( or in the case of the CB expected to be.


If the Matt you refer to is me I have never actually made it to a SASS.




Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[eldog]

Test rides are awesome.
Personally I only risk them when I can afford to buy. I have been known to buy bikes I can't afford when I already have a perfectly good bike. Virtually on a whim.


If the Matt you refer to is me I have never actually made it to a SASS. .

I understand your points on bike buying with bikes it often about when you feel, smell and hear ie the tactile feeling and your senses.

yep brought a bike untest ridden by me, it's a lovely bike I just have to get better at riding before I ride it again. Sometimes logic and senses don't match which makes things seem not as good as you thought they would be. True.

matt is not you big dog. It is someone I put in a hard place on a sass ride, by accident, thinking about what happened during a sass ride amongst other things. Things boiled over in my head space and I put him in an difficult position. It wasn't his fault, no one was in danger. I was wrong I should have stopped or carried on. I only want him to realise this, I haven't been to sass for sometime and I want to make sure that he understands what happen. And I hope that he has continued with his riding, he was getting the hang of it when I left. I could see him on the ride in my mirrors. Still remember that. Sorry mate, I should have stuck it out with you like a good mate should have, even if I was totally unhappy then shot off when we got to the end of the ride
ok I stuffed up. Eventually it lead to me having an off lesson learnt, on my bike referred to above, I was being so antisocial, and wanted to prove to myself that I could do it by myself for myself. I got caught out on tar bleed I didn't see, that's another whole thread. I went to sass to learn about stuff like that, and yeah I did learn but not at sass. It's stuff like that I reckon places like Kb and sass can proved people with riding knowledge that often gets missed. Sass does provide a non aggressive friendly place to ask fellow riders their opinions about anything. You would get some strange one from me including replies, it all good.
only I was lucky, back riding jan/February.

matt and other beginners, don't worry if you feel like you are slow and keeping a learners group from travelling at a good pace, learn from me, ride at your own pace, tell the people at the beginning of your ride, your ability, Yes speak up, I know it's difficult, you want to show that you can ride, but things will go much better if you ride at your own pace. You will soon learn how to become smooth, position etc. some people learn much faster than others, I am a careful nervous slug, got no problems with that. My work precludes me from much riding, so I cherish the times I do ride.

See you on the road sometime

spokes you could lead maybe we could have a bbq at sis's place while she is at the committee meeting good place for practising tyre testing burnout to get tyre temp correct aye

[nzspokes]

I went to sass to learn about stuff like that, and yeah I did learn but not at sass. It's stuff like that I reckon places like Kb and sass can proved people with riding knowledge that often gets missed.

To be clear, Sass is more a riding group than a training system. Those that offer advice are not trainers and have not been trained to do so. Advice is offered from experience from riding and training we have had. No curriculum is used so if you want to know a particular thing then feel free to ask.

Sis and myself would invite experienced riders along to offer their views and knowledge to those at the start of riding. Those wanting structured rider training I would strongly recommend Phillip at Riderskills as he is the best in the business. Also remember Sis, myself and others like Andrew that come along to help out gain no financial benefit (in fact its a significant cost) for coming along each week rain, hail or shine. We do it because we became tired of going to mates funerals.

So if there is something you wish to know just ask, we will be happy to answer or try and find the answer.

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[f2dz]

I'll be there this week. I don't have a preference for what I want to practice – I'm easy.

Spokes, I would've thought your VTR was plenty fast already without strapping a turbo to it. That need for speed eh..!

I'll be staying in Auckland over the break so anyone who's keen to go for some rides during that time let me know. I'll probably be getting out a bit to keep me sane.

Was thinking of even doing to the Cape and back in a day.

[eldog]

To be clear, Sass is more a riding group than a training system. Those that offer advice are not trainers and have not been trained to do so. Advice is offered from experience from riding and training we have had. No curriculum is used so if you want to know a particular thing then feel free to ask.

Sis and myself would invite experienced riders along to offer their views and knowledge to those at the start of riding. Those wanting structured rider training I would strongly recommend Phillip at Riderskills as he is the best in the business. Also remember Sis, myself and others like Andrew that come along to help out gain no financial benefit (in fact its a significant cost) for coming along each week rain, hail or shine. We do it because we became tired of going to mates funerals.

So if there is something you wish to know just ask, we will be happy to answer or try and find the answer.

I dont think i wrote anything about FORMAL TRAINING.

Just my ideas about asking newbies to think about things which arent obvious, like what happoens when you get a flat tyre, what remedies do they have on board the bike, unless they carry a spare. Road surfaces and what happens in the heat and wet eg Tar bleed. IE experienced riders pointing out things for newbies to think about.

If I am stepping on toes, I can go elsewhere for my riding, plenty of other MC out there
WHICH IS DIFFERENT TO SASS WHICH IS NOT A MC.
in case anyone thinks it is

[nzspokes]

I'll be there this week. I don't have a preference for what I want to practice – I'm easy.

Spokes, I would've thought your VTR was plenty fast already without strapping a turbo to it. That need for speed eh..!

I'll be staying in Auckland over the break so anyone who's keen to go for some rides during that time let me know. I'll probably be getting out a bit to keep me sane.

Was thinking of even doing to the Cape and back in a day.
I saw you on Saturday heading south.

Cape run would be fun. Im going to Rotorua for a few days camping but will be free after that.

This may be my last Sass for a while as I resort priorities.

[f2dz]

Not what I was thinking
Will reply to this later when I have calmed down :brick:

did I miss something??


I saw you on Saturday heading south.

Cape run would be fun. Im going to Rotorua for a few days camping but will be free after that.

This may be my last Sass for a while as I resort priorities.

And you didn't wave or say hi? Sad..

Was a suprisingly good day for a ride. I rode down Highway 22 but then had to turn off to go to Ngaruawahia to refuel. Rode on to Pirongia before heading back to Auckland via the main boring highway.

I take it that you're keen then? Would be good to have some company on a ride for once. Last few I've been on have been all by my lonesome.

Can chat about timing tomorrow at SASS. Others are also welcome! I'm happy to keep a pace that works for everyone. So long as you're okay with me stopping for a stretch every 60-90 minutes. My seat isn't that flash on my gluteus maximus.

[nzspokes]

did I miss something??



And you didn't wave or say hi? Sad..

Was a suprisingly good day for a ride. I rode down Highway 22 but then had to turn off to go to Ngaruawahia to refuel. Rode on to Pirongia before heading back to Auckland via the main boring highway.

I take it that you're keen then? Would be good to have some company on a ride for once. Last few I've been on have been all by my lonesome.

Can chat about timing tomorrow at SASS. Others are also welcome! I'm happy to keep a pace that works for everyone. So long as you're okay with me stopping for a stretch every 60-90 minutes. My seat isn't that flash on my gluteus maximus.
I was in the car laden with kids. Went to test ride a bike.

[Sis]

I'll be there this week. I don't have a preference for what I want to practice – I'm easy

Not so sure about the easy part as a waitress hasn't been able to get your attention:innocent:

[f2dz]

I was in the car laden with kids. Went to test ride a bike.

Ooh. ST? Goldwing? Hayabusa?


Not so sure about the easy part as a waitress hasn't been able to get your attention:innocent:

I said that I was easy. She's playing hard to get with the lack of chocolate syrup hearts lately..

[nzspokes]

Ooh. ST? Goldwing? Hayabusa?



I said that I was easy. She's playing hard to get with the lack of chocolate syrup hearts lately..

ST1100. Didnt seem to work for Sharry so will keep looking. Goldwing will be tried along with a Concours 1000.

[nzspokes]

Next ART track day info below. Looking forward to it.

Some nice track based learning.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/171134-AMCC-ART-Day-11-January-2015?p=1130804525#post1130804525

[nzspokes]

Long ride tomorrow night as we have no balls.

So empty tank and full bladder. Hang on........

If dry we will have an extra observer along. :cool:

So chose somewhere to go. Dont leave it to me because I will find the hardest route.

[eldog]

I said that I was easy. She's playing hard to get with the lack of chocolate syrup hearts lately..

she sure is nice. maybe she is just waiting for you to ask were her heart is.
nothing wrong with you max glut

you should ask.

route coromandel loop if you had the balls

[Maakz]

Saw a dashing young fulla speed by on Fri (I recognised ur helmet first and then the sleek silhouette of ur bike) and give an amused Chica a wave-difficulty rating maybe 6...but totally appreciated and tickled to have seen someone...saw Kartik too as I was leaving the car park facility. Och, Some friends and I went for a pootle round the Coro loop Sat-alright, but lots of cages about though. Came back via Miranda, Mangatangi and up through Hunuas. Meh, I can't make tomorrow nights SASS, work Christmas DO and secret Santa.

Now for something totally random:
Question seeking the wisdom of others...anyone been in the situation of lusting after a bigger bike whilst having a perfectly capable bike at home that they still owe money on...currently coveting another shiny pretty thing with torque but question the illogical nature of this unholy fandangle. Um kickin round Aukz over Christmas...so could be up for a pootle depending when etc, that's if you're not adverse to having a tractor ride along.

[Sharry]

I dont think i wrote anything about FORMAL TRAINING.

Just my ideas about asking newbies to think about things which arent obvious, like what happoens when you get a flat tyre, what remedies do they have on board the bike, unless they carry a spare. Road surfaces and what happens in the heat and wet eg Tar bleed. IE experienced riders pointing out things for newbies to think about.

If I am stepping on toes, I can go elsewhere for my riding, plenty of other MC out there


No toes have been stepped on!!!!!

SASS is not a Motorcycle Club. It is a mentoring evening for riders.
Anyone can belong to a motorcycle club and is welcome to come along to SASS or NASS.

I apologise in advance if I have stepped on any toes that are smaller than mine.

[nzspokes]

Saw a dashing young fulla speed by my bus on Fri...too tired to ride that day after a week of late nights. Och, Some friends and I went for a pootle round the Coro loop Sat-alright, but lots of cages about though. Can't make tomorrow night, work Christmas function. Question seeking the wisdom of others...anyone been in the situation of lusting after a bigger bike whilst having a perfectly capable bike at home that they still owe money on...currently coveting another shiny pretty thing with torque but question the illogical nature of this unholy fandangle.

Depends if said bike will make you happier. You can handle any bike you want to. You do need to tell us what it is or better still show pics.

Does it get much bigger than a Harley?

Shame you wont be there for my special observer coming along.

[Maakz]

Fiscally a risk. Happier-it'll make me ecstatic until I think about the logic of what I've done and have buyers remorse. This...http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/harley-davidson/2014-harley-davidson-fxdf-fat-bob.html If I could get out of this Do-I would, but alas, it feels like one of those things one must do. Keen to know who the special observer is? Hmmm if no ones up for a BBQ at theirs for Chrissy/NY gathering, perhaps we could ride somewhere for a SASS munch out. Just a thought...

[nzspokes]

Fiscally a risk. Happier-it'll make me ecstatic until I think about the logic of what I've done and have buyers remorse. This...http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/harley-davidson/2014-harley-davidson-fxdf-fat-bob.html If I could get out of this Do-I would, but alas, it feels like one of those things one must do. Keen to know who the special observer is? Hmmm if no ones up for a BBQ at theirs for Chrissy/NY gathering, perhaps we could ride somewhere for a SASS munch out. Just a thought...

Looks very nice, but I know little about Harleys. It has more power then? Your current bike is stunning so its not second best. And ive not seen another like it.

Hint, observer will be on my bike. That should make it obvious.

Im always up for a ride, but I should really do some Xmas shopping.....

[Maakz]

1690 CC Fat Boy model, sleeker, better on long runs is all. That and it's Amber Whisky orange. Agent Orange mark 2. I like my ride just fine, but have a touch of chrome lust, covetousness and prob CC envy. A phase that got indulged with day dreaming one could say. I have an aversion to being broke and landing myself "innit" just because I fall in love with a new chrome pony. Haven't done my Chrissy shopping yet either...hate the shopping hubs and desperation and trying to battle through the marauding hoards of people buying up large.

Question-how does one get melted rain pants off chrome mufflers and tar flecks off the tin? Have tried the boot scuff stuff, pot scrub stuff...want to get it off but without scratching my poor bikes mufflers, which is looking well and truly broke in. Some threads mention oven cleaner? Eekkk...

[nzspokes]

1690 CC Fat Boy model, sleeker, better on long runs is all. That and it's Amber Whisky orange. Agent Orange mark 2. I like my ride just fine, but have a touch of chrome lust, covetousness and prob CC envy. A phase that got indulged with day dreaming one could say. I have an aversion to being broke and landing myself "innit" just because I fall in love with a new chrome pony. Haven't done my Chrissy shopping yet either...hate the shopping hubs and desperation and trying to battle through the marauding hoards of people buying up large.

Question-how does one get melted rain pants off chrome mufflers and tar flecks off the tin? Have tried the boot scuff stuff, pot scrub stuff...want to get it off but without scratching my poor bikes mufflers, which is looking well and truly broke in. Some threads mention oven cleaner? Eekkk...

Im known for my hate of shopping.

Tar? I read that butter does it. Not sure about rain pants though.

[Sharry]

1690 CC Fat Boy model, sleeker, better on long runs is all. That and it's Amber Whisky orange. Agent Orange mark 2. I like my ride just fine, but have a touch of chrome lust, covetousness and prob CC envy. A phase that got indulged with day dreaming one could say. I have an aversion to being broke and landing myself "innit" just because I fall in love with a new chrome pony. Haven't done my Chrissy shopping yet either...hate the shopping hubs and desperation and trying to battle through the marauding hoards of people buying up large.

Question-how does one get melted rain pants off chrome mufflers and tar flecks off the tin? Have tried the boot scuff stuff, pot scrub stuff...want to get it off but without scratching my poor bikes mufflers, which is looking well and truly broke in. Some threads mention oven cleaner? Eekkk...

Try Acetone, nail polish remover

[Maakz]

A friend mentioned the need for the finest grade steel wool and a little cleaning stuff, apparently ginger scrubbing does the trick and a little easy off but reluctant to try. Will try the butter thing just for the sake of it...Another reason I hate the shopping hubs is cos drivers are angry, frustrated and distracted looking for car parks...and they do some really crazed things in their pursuit of a car park. :baby:

[Big Dog]

A friend mentioned the need for the finest grade steel wool and a little cleaning stuff, apparently ginger scrubbing does the trick and a little easy off but reluctant to try. Will try the butter thing just for the sake of it...Another reason I hate the shopping hubs is cos drivers are angry, frustrated and distracted looking for car parks...and they do some really crazed things in their pursuit of a car park. :baby:

Acetone works but can cause chrome to stain.

Depending how long it has been on there, turtle wax bug and tar remover. Removes tar and rain pants. This may leave a discolouration in the shape of the original mark. If that does not fade after the first ride. It won't on its own. Toothpaste is good here. Small circular motions with just the toothpaste. When it starts to feel gritty wet the cloth and continue.

Still doesn't fade? Autoglym or mothers chrome Polish.
Small amounts and rub until cloth is black. Stain should be barely there and fade away after a couple or so cleans of your pipes.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

If you are going to use steel wool the self sudsing type that look like fibreglass wool. Not the sort that look like Annie's hair.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[eldog]

No toes have been stepped on!!!!!

SASS is not a Motorcycle Club. It is a mentoring evening for riders.
Anyone can belong to a motorcycle club and is welcome to come along to SASS or NASS.

I apologise in advance if I have stepped on any toes that are smaller than mine.

Never said it was a motorcycle club, just stated I was going to join another MC which is different to SASS

Then mentoring is not what i thought it means.
I am also promoting road awareness - not just riding, awareness about road surfaces and how poor some places are
1 place last week claimed the life of another biker last week

I wonder if ANYONE is going to standup and get some action on some of the road conditions.
I have already gotten 1 spot fixed, working on others, what are you doing?

I am also trying to promote awareness about drivers of all types cutting blind corners - what are we bikers going to do about that

and as usual I will get ignored

I know Sis is mentoring, she is doing a fantastic job. I wish I had her balls

[eldog]

Now for something totally random:
Question seeking the wisdom of others...anyone been in the situation of lusting after a bigger bike whilst having a perfectly capable bike at home that they still owe money on...currently coveting another shiny pretty thing with torque but question the illogical nature of this unholy fandangle. Um kickin round Aukz over Christmas...so could be up for a pootle depending when etc, that's if you're not adverse to having a tractor ride along.

Bikes are like being in a candy shop. You always like to have something else, and the range is great.

MY is not a tractor, they are great bikes, so much better than most others

Go for a test ride, take it here you think is the hardest place to ride and see how it performs

Take it back, go back after a month or two, try again

Like buying a house, you don't notice the small niggly things till later

If I had my time again I would be a proud tractor owner.

[eldog]

A friend mentioned the need for the finest grade steel wool and a little cleaning stuff, apparently ginger scrubbing does the trick and a little easy off but reluctant to try. Will try the butter thing just for the sake of it...Another reason I hate the shopping hubs is cos drivers are angry, frustrated and distracted looking for car parks...and they do some really crazed things in their pursuit of a car park. :baby:

thats why you need loud pipes, use them when you need to

[Sharry]

Never said it was a motorcycle club, just stated I was going to join another MC which is different to SASS

Can you please give the meaning for MC when referencing to groups of motorcyclists if it does not mean motorcycle club.

[eldog]

Can you please give the meaning for MC when referencing to groups of motorcyclists if it does not mean motorcycle club.

Mentoring Committee, Motorcycle Collective, the list goes on, they don't have to be clubs, clubs have rules.

SASS doesn't have rules that I know of, just a general understanding.

Is this the only comment you are going to make on what I wrote.
Do you have anything constructive to say? Its a pity.

I will defend SASS and what it stands for. I think its great

Yeah I think I will join a motorcycle collective which is not a club.

There are plenty of club members dying on our roads currently. You belong to a club don't you?
I would be scared.

[f2dz]

Long ride tomorrow night as we have no balls.

So empty tank and full bladder. Hang on........

If dry we will have an extra observer along. :cool:

So chose somewhere to go. Dont leave it to me because I will find the hardest route.

I'm still anticipating bringing my balls uhthankyou.

Maybe Hunua, Miranda, Kaiaua, Kawakawa ways?


Saw a dashing young fulla speed by on Fri (I recognised ur helmet first and then the sleek silhouette of ur bike) and give an amused Chica a wave-difficulty rating maybe 6...but totally appreciated and tickled to have seen someone...saw Kartik too as I was leaving the car park facility. Och, Some friends and I went for a pootle round the Coro loop Sat-alright, but lots of cages about though. Came back via Miranda, Mangatangi and up through Hunuas. Meh, I can't make tomorrow nights SASS, work Christmas DO and secret Santa.

Now for something totally random:
Question seeking the wisdom of others...anyone been in the situation of lusting after a bigger bike whilst having a perfectly capable bike at home that they still owe money on...currently coveting another shiny pretty thing with torque but question the illogical nature of this unholy fandangle. Um kickin round Aukz over Christmas...so could be up for a pootle depending when etc, that's if you're not adverse to having a tractor ride along.

Only a 6? I was banking around a corner dragging knee at the time too! First time I've seen someone from SASS not at SASS and not in bike gear!

I lust after other bikes all the time. I'd loves me a brand new R1 or an S1000RR but pretty sure I'd kill myself on either. Got a few years on a 750 or smaller sized bike before upgrading to the likes of a litre.

When I feel lke I want to upgrade to something else but feel I shouldn't I usually just think about how there are other people out there lusting after what I already have, which makes me feel better about it. A bit sappy, I know, but helps me at least to not get carried away.

Or just follow Rob's advice and go and buy eeet.


Mentoring Committee, Motorcycle Collective, the list goes on, they don't have to be clubs, clubs have rules.

SASS doesn't have rules that I know of, just a general understanding.

Is this the only comment you are going to make on what I wrote.
Do you have anything constructive to say? Its a pity.

I will defend SASS and what it stands for. I think its great

Yeah I think I will join a motorcycle collective which is not a club.

There are plenty of club members dying on our roads currently. You belong to a club don't you?
I would be scared.

Easy eaze! What club/collective/list are you going to be joining instead?

[f2dz]

Oh and I'll be signing up for ART maybe at the end of this week. Gotta wait for payday.

[nzspokes]

I'm still anticipating bringing my balls uhthankyou.

Maybe Hunua, Miranda, Kaiaua, Kawakawa ways?



Only a 6? I was banking around a corner dragging knee at the time too! First time I've seen someone from SASS not at SASS and not in bike gear!

I lust after other bikes all the time. I'd loves me a brand new R1 or an S1000RR but pretty sure I'd kill myself on either. Got a few years on a 750 or smaller sized bike before upgrading to the likes of a litre.

When I feel lke I want to upgrade to something else but feel I shouldn't I usually just think about how there are other people out there lusting after what I already have, which makes me feel better about it. A bit sappy, I know, but helps me at least to not get carried away.

Or just follow Rob's advice and go and buy eeet.



Easy eaze! What club/collective/list are you going to be joining instead?
I lust after a Gixxer 750.

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[Tigadee]

Question seeking the wisdom of others...anyone been in the situation of lusting after a bigger bike whilst having a perfectly capable bike at home that they still owe money on...currently coveting another shiny pretty thing with torque but question the illogical nature of this unholy fandangle. Um kickin round Aukz over Christmas...so could be up for a pootle depending when etc, that's if you're not adverse to having a tractor ride along.

Nah, I'm over large CC bikes now...

I am actually lusting for something smaller, like a 600cc or thereabouts. Street Triple, for example... Or an FZ6/XJ6, MT-07, GSR 600... :eek: And older bikes too, like the Yamaha Thundercat 600. (Still like me dem older bikes...)

[f2dz]

I lust after a Gixxer 750.

I'll give you a ride on mine sometime. I don't think you'll be that impressed after the torque of your VTR.


Nah, I'm over large CC bikes now...

I am actually lusting for something smaller, like a 600cc or thereabouts. Street Triple, for example... Or an FZ6/XJ6, MT-07, GSR 600... :eek: And older bikes too, like the Yamaha Thundercat 600. (Still like me dem older bikes...)

I quite like the look of the naked FZ6s. Street Triples are tasty too, but I'd be worried about their reliability. Can't go wrong with Japanese?

You coming to SASS tonight, Tig?

This will be my last one before Xmas. I've got my work do on next week so will be in no condition to ride a motorcycle at any point during that day.

[Big Dog]

I lust after a Gixxer 750.

If I fit it, I'd rather one of these over the a 1000. They handle much nicer and there is not enough performance differential to notice on the road or the track unless you are actually racing. Even then at a track like Ruapuna you could give the litre boys a fright.

I would need to lose 40kgs and get bike fit.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[nzspokes]

Nah, I'm over large CC bikes now...

I am actually lusting for something smaller, like a 600cc or thereabouts. Street Triple, for example... Or an FZ6/XJ6, MT-07, GSR 600... :eek: And older bikes too, like the Yamaha Thundercat 600. (Still like me dem older bikes...)
The Hornet motor is a gem. You may not enjoy a small bike now.

Nah, I'm over large CC bikes now...

I am actually lusting for something smaller, like a 600cc or thereabouts. Street Triple, for example... Or an FZ6/XJ6, MT-07, GSR 600... :eek: And older bikes too, like the Yamaha Thundercat 600. (Still like me dem older bikes...)

[Tigadee]

The Hornet motor is a gem. You may not enjoy a small bike now.

Probably true... I know 600cc or smaller bikes with their lower torque at low- to mid-ranges would be less frightening... I mean, more manageable for newer riders.

That said, my old dear YX600 Radian was a gem with excellent low-to-mid range torque - I still miss that bike. RIP Radian... :bye:

[f2dz]

What's wrong with the Hornet?

I'm thinking about moving onto one when I move overseas – a 600 though (doubt I'll be able to afford the thirst of a 900/919).

[nzspokes]

What's wrong with the Hornet?

I'm thinking about moving onto one when I move overseas – a 600 though (doubt I'll be able to afford the thirst of a 900/919).
Dibs on the Gixxer when you go.

[f2dz]

Dibs on the Gixxer when you go.

If the price is right. ;)

The sale of my bike will be going straight to my student loan. Sad I know.

[Tigadee]

What's wrong with the Hornet?

Sometimes, I feel it's more bike than I need, just sometimes...


If the price is right.

AND if the rider can fit on it... :whistle:

[BuzzardNZ]

What's wrong with the Hornet?


Where do I start...

The Hornet 600 I owned was horrible.

No character, incredibly thirsty, crazy vibrations at moderate speed. This was an early model one and had less than 30,000k on the clock. Only good thing about it was that it had pretty good acceleration.

[Sharry]

Mentoring Committee, Motorcycle Collective, the list goes on, they don't have to be clubs, clubs have rules.

SASS doesn't have rules that I know of, just a general understanding.

Is this the only comment you are going to make on what I wrote.
Do you have anything constructive to say? Its a pity.

I will defend SASS and what it stands for. I think its great

Yeah I think I will join a motorcycle collective which is not a club.

There are plenty of club members dying on our roads currently. You belong to a club don't you?
I would be scared.



Goodness, That implication is that members of a motorcycle club are more likely to die on the road.

1 To the best of my knowledge I have never joined a motorcycle club, unless KB is a club.

2 I do belong to an Institution and also a couple of groups and no I am not scared. Scared is not a good feeling to have when riding with people or alone.

3. I am particular with whom I ride, have been for years.

I am pleased you still hold SASS in regard, why do you not utilise it anymore? We can never get enough practice with our skills.

[nzspokes]

Sometimes, I feel it's more bike than I need, just sometimes...



AND if the rider can fit on it... :whistle:
Better to have more than you need than not enough.

[Kartik]

I should be there tonight guys, although on a different bike. ;)

[f2dz]

I should be there tonight guys, although on a different bike. ;)

No Z1000?? D:

[Kartik]

No Z1000?? D:
No Z1000 today. Have got my mates Gsxr600. :)

[f2dz]

Blegh. Not another bloody GSXR. Horrible bikes.

The Z1000 was much tastier. :D

[Kartik]

The Z is definitely tastier, but a bit of variety is great too. Lol. And this is only temporary.

[eldog]

Better to have more than you need than not enough.

Its all in how you use it :bleh:

[eldog]

Blegh. Not another bloody GSXR. Horrible bikes.

The Z1000 was much tastier. :D

liked the look of the Z1000 :drool:

[nzspokes]

Where do I start...

The Hornet 600 I owned was horrible.

No character, incredibly thirsty, crazy vibrations at moderate speed. This was an early model one and had less than 30,000k on the clock. Only good thing about it was that it had pretty good acceleration.
You should have tried the 900. Mine was comfortably quicker than a mates SV1k.

[eldog]

What club/collective/list are you going to be joining instead?

I am not leaving SASS, just extending my leave.

Respect for everything it does and stands for.

Not instead, as well as.

[nzspokes]

Dress warm. Bit windy out tonight.

[BuzzardNZ]

You should have tried the 900. Mine was comfortably quicker than a mates SV1k.

No kidding, almost all large capacity 4 pots will beat a V twin, your Firestorm included.

The hornet 600 just felt like a bargain bin bike, which I suppose it was. Biggest mistake I ever made was buying that damn 600.

[nzspokes]

No kidding, almost all large capacity 4 pots will beat a V twin, your Firestorm included.

The hornet 600 just felt like a bargain bin bike, which I suppose it was. Biggest mistake I ever made was buying that damn 600.
Nah I romp away from SVs. And Hornets. But then its not stock.

[BuzzardNZ]

Nah I romp away from SVs. And Hornets. But then its not stock.

Nor is mine and I've wasted many a Firestorm, so I'd be interested to see how mine would go against yours. I'd put $ on myself for the win as from what you've said, the poor Firestorm has to lug a lot of extra weight i.e. you

[eldog]

Nor is mine and I've wasted many a Firestorm, so I'd be interested to see how mine would go against yours. I'd put $ on myself for the win as from what you've said, the poor Firestorm has to lug a lot of extra weight i.e. you

This will be interesting, I have seen SPOKES bike and he hasn't finished yet. :corn:

[Big Dog]

Its all in how you use it :bleh:

It ain't the hammer, it's the carpenter.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[eldog]

It ain't the hammer, it's the carpenter.

+1 Hadnt thought of it this way :niceone:

[Big Dog]

+1 Hadnt thought of it this way :niceone:

To be fair a good carpenter has several hammers. :devil:


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[eldog]

To be fair a good carpenter has several hammers. :devil: Even bad carpenters have more than one tool.

Some are better at the job than others with better tools, its all in how you use them. :rolleyes:

The Scorpio is an excellent tool for learning, I just need to do more practise, I like Practising. :killingme

[eldog]

Any feed back on your video cams, Interested in how you found them, what you expected, what you got, is it really useful, what you need and didnt buy. all of that sort of stuff.

for I have a cunning plan.

[nzspokes]

Thanks Guys, nice but somewhat breezy ride tonight.

I fell in love tonight. :love: :bleh:

Fraser, dont crash my bike. :laugh:

My poor old Honda was outnumbered by Suzukis.

[xXGIBBOXx]

Even bad carpenters have more than one tool.

Some are better at the job than others with better tools, its all in how you use them. :rolleyes:

The Scorpio is an excellent tool for learning, I just need to do more practise, I like Practising. :killingme

I have a Go-Bro ( cheap cam , looks like a go pro ) use it to study my lines , remember fun new roads that find . It was about 80 bucks does the job don't care it I drop and break it

[xXGIBBOXx]

Thanks Guys, nice but somewhat breezy ride tonight.

I fell in love tonight. :love: :bleh:

Fraser, dont crash my bike. :laugh:

My poor old Honda was outnumbered by Suzukis.

Who's horse did you take ? The Hoonda will get jealous.lol

[f2dz]

Any feed back on your video cams, Interested in how you found them, what you expected, what you got, is it really useful, what you need and didnt buy. all of that sort of stuff.

for I have a cunning plan.

My Drift Ghost-S is going good so far. Have a couple complaints sometimes where it bugs out saying my card is too slow but I think that's because it doesn't like you reformatting the card on a PC. It prefers reformatting itself via its menu. Other than that I don't have any complaints whatsoever. I wouldn't mind a GoPro as a second camera for on the bike at track days though, but Santa won't be bringing one for Christmas so I'm out of luck there. The bastard.


Thanks Guys, nice but somewhat breezy ride tonight.

I fell in love tonight. :love: :bleh:

Fraser, dont crash my bike. :laugh:

My poor old Honda was outnumbered by Suzukis.

I think my bike has one less pillion seat than you need, and its also missing many panniers. Glad ya liked it though! :2thumbsup


Who's horse did you take ? The Hoonda will get jealous.lol

He rode a dirty 'zuki. Literally dirty – splattered bugs still on it from two weeks ago..

Attached a photo of tonight's bikes. Good ride y'all.

306695

[nzspokes]

Who's horse did you take ? The Hoonda will get jealous.lol

I took Frasers Gix for a short pootle. Nice bit of kit. Dont worry the VTR is not going anywhere.

For the record I am a member of a MC, a real one. :cool:

[Tigadee]

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1035616-z-takanini) -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&pq=z+station+takanini&cp=16&gs_id=1s&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=38897761&biw=1400&bih=966&wrapid=tljp1353894501071030&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=manukau+city+council&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=manukau+city+council&hnear=manukau+city+council&cid=0,0,18372865564506322212&sa=X&ei=bMqyULb7DaKgigfe2IHoAw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBEPwSMAA) for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp. :Police: police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS (https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=broncos+manukau&fb=1&gl=nz&hq=broncos&hnear=0x6d0d4dc0da10dc85:0x500ef6143a2df40,Manukau ,+Auckland&cid=0,0,9300130746200942903&ei=pr2QUeKhK8PqswbQ-oCwDA&ved=0CHwQ_BIwAA) after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins! :Punk:

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

[Tigadee]

It ain't the hammer, it's the carpenter.

That's me though, I'm happy with an Ozito (Bunnings brand) rather than wanting a Makita or Ryobi. A communter doesn't need a 1200cc sports bike...

Sometimes it's a matter of what we need (or don't), not what we want.


...the poor Firestorm has to lug a lot of extra weight i.e. you

:killingme :killingme :killingme


Better to have more than you need than not enough.

Meh... Pity that doesn't apply to wife's nagging or work hours...


This will be interesting, I have seen SPOKES bike and he hasn't finished yet.

Yeah, he hasn't fitted his uber-cool hi-tech blunderbuss/vevezula air scoop yet! :lol:


...I think that's because it doesn't like you reformatting the card on a PC. It prefers reformatting itself via its menu.

Yupe, that's usually the case...


I took Frasers Gix for a short pootle. Nice bit of kit.

You managed to get on?! :shit:

[eldog]

A communter doesn't need a 1200cc sports bike...

Sometimes it's a matter of what we need (or don't), not what we want. :shit:

So the HD sportster 1200 isn't a commuter? I will have to cancel the order :psst:

Thanks to those who posted about video cams :)

Def: Communter is that a commuter with tomato sauce?

[Maha]

A communter doesn't need a 1200cc sports bike...

Sometimes it's a matter of what we need (or don't), not what we want.



I have always bought (when it comes to bikes) what I want, it's seems easier (yet somehow the same) as buying what you need.
The bikes I have bought in the past have probably been a want/need purchase if I were to be honest.


So the HD sportster 1200 isn't a commuter? I will have to cancel the order :psst:

Do you still have/ride the Bandit Lance?

[Tigadee]

I have always bought (when it comes to bikes) what I want, it's seems easier (yet somehow the same) as buying what you need.
The bikes I have bought in the past have probably been a want/need purchase if I were to be honest.

Unfortunately, the bikes I want are not bikes I need, e.g. old bikes like the YX600 Radian, FZX750 Fazer, VF750C (with quad pipes)... I can't upkeep and fix those bikes, however, so I'm keeping away from them.

I know I need a decent, economical and reliable bike that's fine as a commuter that won't eat tyres like I eat chips. To and fro work mainly, so a Bandit or a 900 Hornet seems overkill (and frankly not what I had wanted anyway).

I was extremely happy with my old Radian if only it hadn't sadly developed electrical problems which no amount of testing and two mechanics could solve. C'est la vie...

[nzspokes]

Unfortunately, the bikes I want are not bikes I need, e.g. old bikes like the YX600 Radian, FZX750 Fazer, VF750C (with quad pipes)... I can't upkeep and fix those bikes, however, so I'm keeping away from them.

I know I need a decent, economical and reliable bike that's fine as a commuter that won't eat tyres like I eat chips. To and fro work mainly, so a Bandit or a 900 Hornet seems overkill (and frankly not what I had wanted anyway).

I was extremely happy with my old Radian if only it hadn't sadly developed electrical problems which no amount of testing and two mechanics could solve. C'est la vie...

What you need is reliable. And the 900 Hornet is one of the most reliable bikes out there.

[caseye]

The bandit is a bloody brilliant, reliable, commuter, it's just capable of warp 9 when and if needed. Not that often to be honest, but mate, it's also bloody economical and costs less than most small bikes to have "properly" serviced. Going like a dream presently, ready for Cemetery circuit on Boxing day, in company with it's little brother the M50 what you know who rides.
Go on, come round take em pics and take her for a quiet ( yeah right) spin, you will be taken by "the force"

[nzspokes]

The bandit is a bloody brilliant, reliable, commuter, it's just capable of warp 9 when and if needed. Not that often to be honest, but mate, it's also bloody economical and costs less than most small bikes to have "properly" serviced. Going like a dream presently, ready for Cemetery circuit on Boxing day, in company with it's little brother the M50 what you know who rides.
Go on, come round take em pics and take her for a quiet ( yeah right) spin, you will be taken by "the force"

Have ridden a couple of 1250s and them seem great bikes. I only hear good things. If Sharry would be cumfy on the back of one we would be looking for one as a pillion bike.

Easy to find more power from them to.

[Gremlin]

What you need is reliable. And the 900 Hornet is one of the most reliable bikes out there.
What he said... and it makes running costs low. Unless you get something like the NC700 which is better on gas (CB900 probably around 5-6L/100km, NC around 3-4L/100km) then the CB900 is a good pick.

Highest (owned by a KB'er) I know of has around 240-250k on the clock, but now had some work done on clutch and gears I think. Owned by a courier until 2xxk. Mates hornet has 150k, he's literally been all over the country on it, including fitting knobblies and doing some adventure roads. Mine has just gone into the shop this afternoon for 126k service. Front discs now worn out and being replaced, already on a 2nd rear disc, but besides replacing the 9yo battery during last winter, it continues to start first time every time... Tyres, I get 20k+ out of each set of Road 2s... Suspension was overhauled at 123k. Another mate has almost 100k on his...

Known problem is rear wheel bearings, crap from factory but then when done, sweet as. I still enjoy riding it after 8 years... but then I also ride other bikes constantly... it's refreshing changing between them.

[aws]

Have ridden a couple of 1250s and them seem great bikes. I only hear good things. If Sharry would be cumfy on the back of one we would be looking for one as a pillion bike.

Easy to find more power from them to.
I used to think Colemans' loaner 1250 was a bit of alright until I got the Fazer. Since then it has seemed kind of rough and a bit rattly. To be fair, it might be getting a bit older and loose, but I think the Yammy motor is way sweeter. And the specs are really in a different league anyway (and priced in a different league when new too). It may not be as efficient as the big Bandit, or the Hornet, but you can't have everything, can you :D I'll take the sweet smoothness.

By the way - did I mention that I just happen to have one of these exclusive machines for sale right now ;)

[Theantidote]

Awesome reading the latest threads...i buy what i can afford and love my uncle to bits...hoping she'll see me right for a few k's...on a side note....anyone keen for coffee on friday nite...leaving drury about 8 and heading into kroad....not a race just a gentle crooze and a catch up....dang good pizza not far fromthe coffee too...pm me or if u have my number txt me....hei sis and maakz miss u chicks....ride safe yall

[nzspokes]

I used to think Colemans' loaner 1250 was a bit of alright until I got the Fazer. Since then it has seemed kind of rough and a bit rattly. To be fair, it might be getting a bit older and loose, but I think the Yammy motor is way sweeter. And the specs are really in a different league anyway (and priced in a different league when new too). It may not be as efficient as the big Bandit, or the Hornet, but you can't have everything, can you :D I'll take the sweet smoothness.

By the way - did I mention that I just happen to have one of these exclusive machines for sale right now ;)

The Bandit produces max torque much lower than a FZ1. It IMO is a better everyday bike. And with 3 basic mods the Bandit matches the FZ1 for HP.

[aws]

The Bandit produces max torque much lower than a FZ1. It IMO is a better everyday bike. And with 3 basic mods the Bandit matches the FZ1 for HP.
True, the Bandit has a much flatter torque curve, but let's face it, any litre bike is going to have plenty of torque for "everyday" use ;)

[bawked]

True, the Bandit has a much flatter torque curve, but let's face it, any litre bike is going to have plenty of torque for "everyday" use ;)

what is this torque you guys keep referring to?! :bleh:

[eldog]

AWS - I used to think Colemans' loaner 1250 was a bit of alright until I got the Fazer. Since then it has seemed kind of rough and a bit rattly. To be fair, it might be getting a bit older and loose, but I think the Yammy motor is way sweeter.

I always wanted to ask what the Fazer was like, you were to far to good a rider for me to regain my breath when we stopped for me to ask you.
Hope you get out on the Brut, it looked nice and sounded better. :headbang:


what is this torque you guys keep referring to?! :bleh:

Its all the stuff you hear at the Pub after the ride = talk, some good, some bad, some funny, worth a listen. :not:

The Antidote-anyone keen for coffee on friday nite...leaving drury about 8 and heading into kroad, mate I cant afford it - I would never get home. :msn-wink:

Spokes - If Sharry would be cumfy on the back of one we would be looking for one as a pillion bike. - I tried the pillon, the seat is ok but the pegs arent comfortable would have to modify the pegs alot(unless you are MOM), feels like you are on top of the effiel tower. (Been there done that)
Spokes - What you need is reliable. And the 900 Hornet is one of the most reliable bikes out there. - +1 its a Honda ant it

Tigadee - Yeah, he hasn't fitted his uber-cool hi-tech blunderbuss/vevezula air scoop yet! :lol: - That thread didnt go anywhere, I was keen for a trip to Mansfield or Taupo. Still keen to see both the Vevezula scoop fitted with the Turbo and Intercooler.

Is it a cooincident that a Bandit is almost Identical for engine size, weight, length, power as stock standard as the Sportster. Anyone else noticed.
Both are understated bikes - simple, not many techo devices, apart from the Keyswitch on the HD. And watching that tail light is addictive.

[nzspokes]

AWS - I used to think Colemans' loaner 1250 was a bit of alright until I got the Fazer. Since then it has seemed kind of rough and a bit rattly. To be fair, it might be getting a bit older and loose, but I think the Yammy motor is way sweeter.

I always wanted to ask what the Fazer was like, you were to far to good a rider for me to regain my breath when we stopped for me to ask you.
Hope you get out on the Brut, it looked nice and sounded better. :headbang:



Its all the stuff you hear at the Pub after the ride = talk, some good, some bad, some funny, worth a listen. :not:

The Antidote-anyone keen for coffee on friday nite...leaving drury about 8 and heading into kroad, mate I cant afford it - I would never get home. :msn-wink:

Spokes - If Sharry would be cumfy on the back of one we would be looking for one as a pillion bike. - I tried the pillon, the seat is ok but the pegs arent comfortable would have to modify the pegs alot(unless you are MOM), feels like you are on top of the effiel tower. (Been there done that)
Spokes - What you need is reliable. And the 900 Hornet is one of the most reliable bikes out there. - +1 its a Honda ant it

Tigadee - Yeah, he hasn't fitted his uber-cool hi-tech blunderbuss/vevezula air scoop yet! :lol: - That thread didnt go anywhere, I was keen for a trip to Mansfield or Taupo. Still keen to see both the Vevezula scoop fitted with the Turbo and Intercooler.

Is it a cooincident that a Bandit is almost Identical for engine size, weight, length, power as stock standard as the Sportster. Anyone else noticed.
Both are understated bikes - simple, not many techo devices, apart from the Keyswitch on the HD. And watching that tail light is addictive.

You mean this project.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjkkKGI0HR0

[eldog]

You mean this project.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjkkKGI0HR0

Thats a lot of work. Not just a few simple mods like you suggested with a bandit. How is reliability, fuel range affected. You might have to drop a few teeth to be slow enough for SASS:facepalm: at least it will have enough power for lights:yes:

[nzspokes]

Thats a lot of work. Not just a few simple mods like you suggested with a bandit. How is reliability, fuel range affected. You might have to drop a few teeth to be slow enough for SASS:facepalm: at least it will have enough power for lights:yes:

With 260hp who cares about economy? :killingme

[nzspokes]

So are we having one more for the year?

[f2dz]

With 260hp who cares about economy? :killingme

Even with 260hp I think I would, haha.

[Tigadee]

What you need is reliable. And the 900 Hornet is one of the most reliable bikes out there.

After one year of ownership, I've put on new front and rear tyres, replaced the battery, chain and sprockets, rear brake switch and rear brake bulb. Not exactly economical...

Mind you, it is coming to ten years old now, so I guess some things would be failing... My luck... :rolleyes:


Go on, come round take em pics and take her for a quiet ( yeah right) spin, you will be taken by "the force"

Must do that... LOL!


Known problem is rear wheel bearings, crap from factory but then when done, sweet as. I still enjoy riding it after 8 years... but then I also ride other bikes constantly... it's refreshing changing between them.

What are the signs that they are going?


By the way - did I mention that I just happen to have one of these exclusive machines for sale right now ;)

Oh? More info, pray tell?


...i buy what i can afford and love my uncle to bits...hoping she'll see me right for a few k's

Uncle? She? Your bike's a trans?! :shit:


what is this torque you guys keep referring to?! :bleh:

:bleh: Don't you know what they're torque-ing about? :killingme


With 260hp who cares about economy? :killingme

Shit, that ain't a Bandit then, it's a touring Busa!

[nzspokes]

After one year of ownership, I've put on new front and rear tyres, replaced the battery, chain and sprockets, rear brake switch and rear brake bulb. Not exactly economical...

Mind you, it is coming to ten years old now, so I guess some things would be failing... My luck... :rolleyes:



Must do that... LOL!



What are the signs that they are going?



Oh? More info, pray tell?
Any bike needs tyres and chains.