Optimistic sellers

[yevjenko]

Reasonable if you don't have to pay. I withdrew the add after the sale and never heard from TM about it. Classified again for me next time, no charge for withdrawing the add.
there are no success fees for a classified, only for an auction.

Auctions are 39 bucks to host, plus a maximum of $49 success fees, and only last a maximum of 14 days, whereas a classified can last as long as you like.

Auctions can be withdrawn for $39 whereas a classified can be withdrawn for free.

The rationale here is that auctions generate more interest from their initial low price and the seller can end up getting more money if people get emotionally caught up in the auction process when compared to classifieds

[jasonu]

Fucking rip off. Ebay has an audience of hundreds of millions of people.

So a hundred bucks or so to advertise your ride to 4 millionish people is too much.?
Pete how much does it cost a dealers to have someones bike sitting in the showroom (with an audience of tens) on consignment?

[Maha]

there are no success fees for a classified, only for an auction.

Auctions are 39 bucks to host, plus a maximum of $49 success fees, and only last a maximum of 14 days, whereas a classified can last as long as you like.

Auctions can be withdrawn for $39 whereas a classified can be withdrawn for free.

The rationale here is that auctions generate more interest from their initial low price and the seller can end up getting more money if people get emotionally caught up in the auction process when compared to classifieds

Thank you for that explanation, makes sense.

[Crasherfromwayback]

So a hundred bucks or so to advertise your ride to 4 millionish people is too much.?
Pete how much does it cost a dealers to have someones bike sitting in the showroom (with an audience of tens) on consignment?

Yeah I do. And it's also about all the extra add ons they sting you with now too. Yes I know Ebay do it too.

You mean selling a bike on behalf of someone?

[mossy1200]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/180900-Bandit

What about this guy. Hes never going to get that much even with its new wof.

[babysteps]

Ohhhh i see what you did there! :msn-wink:

[jasonu]

Yeah I do. And it's also about all the extra add ons they sting you with now too. Yes I know Ebay do it too.

You mean selling a bike on behalf of someone?

Yes selling on behalf.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes selling on behalf.

% depends on several things mate. But remember, it's the selling dealer that has to back it's warranty, not the owner. So no point in doing it for fuck all. :msn-wink:

[AllanB]

Ah any dealer selling on behalf would need to make it worth their while with a reasonable cut. Why would they do it otherwise?

[Laava]

This is more WTF than optimistic!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/stands-lifts-ramps/auction-1149456486.htm

[F5 Dave]

Gee that doesn't look too bad. OKif you could weld tthere's$100 steel, $80 galvanising, $100 lights wiring connectors and the towbar fitting, then 5hrs grinding measuring and welding. WWhat's your time worth?

They work well on buckets and dirtbikes if secured properly.

[jellywrestler]

Gee that doesn't look too bad. OKif you could weld tthere's$100 steel, $80 galvanising, $100 lights wiring connectors and the towbar fitting, then 5hrs grinding measuring and welding. WWhat's your time worth?

They work well on buckets and dirtbikes if secured properly.

till some clown puts it on a narrow car and it exceeds the widths of overhang allowed on the road.

[swarfie]

till some clown puts it on a narrow car and it exceeds the widths of overhang allowed on the road.

Yeah I'm guessing you wouldn't want it on your vehicle while you were trying to get a WOF. That steel sticking out beyond the wheels on the bike might give some officious inspector the screaming meemees.:nono:

[jasonu]

This is more WTF than optimistic!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/stands-lifts-ramps/auction-1149456486.htm

Try making one for less including design, materials and paying yourself $25 an hour. I bet you can't.

[jellywrestler]

Try making one for less including design, materials and paying yourself $25 an hour. I bet you can't.

why $25 hr, people do this for hobbies, what do golfers do, is that $25 hr, i know hotrodders value their cars including their labour it's more of a wank value, fuck if i valued the time i put into my toys i'd be a milllionaire.

[Big Dog]

Lava didn't challenge the price. Just the WTF value of this contraption and it's implementation in the pics.

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[F5 Dave]

till some clown puts it on a narrow car and it exceeds the widths of overhang allowed on the road.

So, like a trailer?

Big Dog
Properly made these things are just fine. I mean dirt bikes are like 100kg. Half the wet weight of a 600. Don't go sticking your lardy road bike on it. With the right triangular straps this will work well and be less strain than a heavy trailer.

I can't weld worth trusting so id have to pay. Someone like Jason could make one easy. But this one is assembled. Just because you can doesn't mean you have to make everything yourself.

[Grumph]

Gee that doesn't look too bad. OKif you could weld tthere's$100 steel, $80 galvanising, $100 lights wiring connectors and the towbar fitting, then 5hrs grinding measuring and welding. WWhat's your time worth?

They work well on buckets and dirtbikes if secured properly.

Back in the early 90's an engineering firm here i was working for, made and sold them and various other add-on's.
ALL had to be certified before going on sale...
From memory, retail of the fairly similar bike carrier was just over $1000.
And at that the profit margin was very small - it only went into production because one of the partners wanted one for himself.

[Paul in NZ]

Back in the early 90's an engineering firm here i was working for, made and sold them and various other add-on's.
ALL had to be certified before going on sale...
From memory, retail of the fairly similar bike carrier was just over $1000.
And at that the profit margin was very small - it only went into production because one of the partners wanted one for himself.

I use a similar thing to sit 4 mountain bikes on the tow ball - $200 from torpedo 7. Best bike rack ever... Like this but 4 bike version..

http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7CATN03B/title/torpedo7-towball-mount-3-bike-channel-rack

[F5 Dave]

Back in the early 90's an engineering firm here i was working for, made and sold them and various other add-on's.
ALL had to be certified before going on sale...
From memory, retail of the fairly similar bike carrier was just over $1000.
And at that the profit margin was very small - it only went into production because one of the partners wanted one for himself.

And much easier to store than a trailer which takes up a lot of space for most people's sections.

[Big Dog]

So, like a trailer?

Big Dog
Properly made these things are just fine. I mean dirt bikes are like 100kg. Half the wet weight of a 600. Don't go sticking your lardy road bike on it. With the right triangular straps this will work well and be less strain than a heavy trailer.

I can't weld worth trusting so id have to pay. Someone like Jason could make one easy. But this one is assembled. Just because you can doesn't mean you have to make everything yourself.




Back in the early 90's an engineering firm here i was working for, made and sold them and various other add-on's.

I don't doubt these are useful. In thw 90s I used to see them on the back of caravans, buses and campers all the time. Dunno about a clapped out narrow sedan though.

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[F5 Dave]

Much maligned, better than urban legend But 5k for an 82kr? Fuk off.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1152343357.htm

[F5 Dave]

These are great little bikes for learners or commuters. . . at least it was but was left out to rust so someone painted the engine and most other bits an attractive brown to try hide the fact. And added a grogus headlight and who knows what other horrors befoul this hunk of junk.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1144539909.htm

[F5 Dave]

So let's talk 20yr old Suzuki's There are a couple of first model GSXR750s at the moment listed. GGenuine appreciating classic. A game changer at the time and infinitely more exciting to ride than this old tarts handbag for the same coin


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1142375059.htm



Still seeing lots of the same old listings for the same inflated prices. Guess they were. . . optimistic.

[Night Falcon]

These are great little bikes for learners or commuters. . . at least it was but was left out to rust so someone painted the engine and most other bits an attractive brown to try hide the fact. And added a grogus headlight and who knows what other horrors befoul this hunk of junk.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1144539909.htm

crap bike :killingme

[F5 Dave]

Toilet humour!

[Owl]

Rather expensive SV. Just love the seat. :laugh:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1150942050.htm

[Twowheelghost]

.....The insurance company got rid it off for me. It was written off. The damage on fairing, exhaust covers "miss placed"... it's because when I high sided all those bits broke off!:no:

Hey mate, bit of a low blow with the threads. I'm just testing the waters I'm not trying to get 11500 for the bike il be happy with much lower. I was unaware this was a write off and since I've found out I have been thinking about my auction.. But I was unaware of this all happening.. I'm not trying to misrepresent the bike. It's a great bike, obviously when you put the bike together after you crashed it the bike was white.. I bought a new fairing kit off eBay hence the fact it is black now, and the front fairing did crack during shipping to NZ. Sorry I upset you that much just trying to sell a great bike that I bought, what do you want me to do from here?

[Twowheelghost]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1146625439.htm

Funny when you see your old bike and you know the description just ain't true!:crazy:

And I will be changing this accordingly thanks MR 250, it's all news to me.. Would appreciate a private conversation to discuss what was carried out.. Cheers mate 🖕

[Twowheelghost]

After reading the some what gibberish listing I am betting you sold it to a sand nigger.

Not a sand nigger you racist prick just a nigger 😊✊🏾

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1154806754.htm


LOLOL

take a very average bike. Make it worse. Try and charge a premium to hipster douchenozzle fashion victims.

Its the trend.

[Twowheelghost]

.....The insurance company got rid it off for me. It was written off. The damage on fairing, exhaust covers "miss placed"... it's because when I high sided all those bits broke off!:no:

Sorry if I have represented this bike in anyway not trying to rip anyone off or mislead.. I was unaware of this bike being a write off.. Everything described on trademe is what I was told from the previous owner obviously I should of done my research... I will change the auction and bring down the price.. How ever great bike best road bike to date I've ridden had a lot of fun on it.. This guy however wish you would of contacted me first rather then be a keyboard warrior about it.. Yea the parts were replaced new headlights new full fairing kit, plus some others.. As for the exhaust cover when I put the bike back together I was so eager to get out I forgot to screw down the rightside exhaust cover hard enough and on that first glorious ride the screws wriggled loose and of course the exhaust cover came off... Genuine rider here love it live it for it, see on you on the road Mr 250


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1146625439&ed=true

[nzspokes]

Sorry if I have represented this bike in anyway not trying to rip anyone off or mislead.. I was unaware of this bike being a write off.. Everything described on trademe is what I was told from the previous owner obviously I should of done my research... I will change the auction and bring down the price.. How ever great bike best road bike to date I've ridden had a lot of fun on it.. This guy however wish you would of contacted me first rather then be a keyboard warrior about it.. Yea the parts were replaced new headlights new full fairing kit, plus some others.. As for the exhaust cover when I put the bike back together I was so eager to get out I forgot to screw down the rightside exhaust cover hard enough and on that first glorious ride the screws wriggled loose and of course the exhaust cover came off... Genuine rider here love it live it for it, see on you on the road Mr 250


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1146625439&ed=true

Epic chicken strips.

[Twowheelghost]

Epic chicken strips.

Here we go :facepalm:

[Grumph]

LOLOL

take a very average bike. Make it worse. Try and charge a premium to hipster douchenozzle fashion victims.

Its the trend.

"travels a lot for rugby" Gotta be a Blues signing.......

[mossy1200]

Not really in correct thread

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1154956055

Would it be legal to remove ABS if there wasn't a ABS version of this bike? Apparently ABS removal with a LVV cert is ok but it must have all parts the none ABS version has and LLV cert.

[jasonu]

Not a sand nigger you racist prick just a nigger ��✊��

Tru dat sista!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55mLS-qWnc

[nzspokes]

Not really in correct thread

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1154956055

Would it be legal to remove ABS if there wasn't a ABS version of this bike? Apparently ABS removal with a LVV cert is ok but it must have all parts the none ABS version has and LLV cert.

Correct. Something I looked into ages ago when a mate was looking at a ST1100 that had faulty ABS.

[Voltaire]

Not really in correct thread

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1154956055

Would it be legal to remove ABS if there wasn't a ABS version of this bike? Apparently ABS removal with a LVV cert is ok but it must have all parts the none ABS version has and LLV cert.

That's one ugly looking motorcycle, do BMW's get lardier over time?

[Drew]

Sorry if I have represented this bike in anyway not trying to rip anyone off or mislead.. I was unaware of this bike being a write off.. Everything described on trademe is what I was told from the previous owner obviously I should of done my research... I will change the auction and bring down the price.. How ever great bike best road bike to date I've ridden had a lot of fun on it.. This guy however wish you would of contacted me first rather then be a keyboard warrior about it.. Yea the parts were replaced new headlights new full fairing kit, plus some others.. As for the exhaust cover when I put the bike back together I was so eager to get out I forgot to screw down the rightside exhaust cover hard enough and on that first glorious ride the screws wriggled loose and of course the exhaust cover came off... Genuine rider here love it live it for it, see on you on the road Mr 250


Good work standing up for yourself man. But you're wasting your breath with that fucktard.

[Banditbandit]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1154806754.htm


LOLOL

take a very average bike. Make it worse. Try and charge a premium to hipster douchenozzle fashion victims.

Its the trend.

Too many mods for it to be LAMS ... don't these people realize?

[James Deuce]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1154806754.htm


LOLOL

take a very average bike. Make it worse. Try and charge a premium to hipster douchenozzle fashion victims.

Its the trend.

With photos by one of those people who can't turn their cellphone sideways to take pictures.

[Corse1]

Really...I mean really. Been around the clock and even if it was a nice one it would be worth less than half of asking price. Delusional
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1156037892.htm

[sidecar bob]

Really...I mean really. Been around the clock and even if it was a nice one it would be worth less than half of asking price. Delusional
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1156037892.htm

It does go hard though, well at least in someone's opinion. That's got to count for something.

[jafagsx250]

47 thousand kilometers and wants 5.5 grand. Worth half that most likely

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160905/5babaa26adf59d3c81cfd6dab8cd4f3c.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

^^^^ winner!


Not motorcycling but I was looking for Rammstein stuff on tardme and this came up.

What the actual fuck? a $200 mountainbike tyre!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/cycling/parts-components/tyres-tubes/auction-1152015581.htm

has anyone ever bought one?

In fact I asked them.

Hello. Has anyone EVER bought a tyre from you? This would end up costing $200NZD. If you buy a pair you are over $400 and the LANDED cost is in excess of $500 (say $400 for the tyres plus $60 for GST plus all the extra fees they tack on). So my question is: are you on crack?

[Big Dog]

^^^^ winner!


Not motorcycling but I was looking for Rammstein stuff on tardme and this came up.

What the actual fuck? a $200 mountainbike tyre!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/cycling/parts-components/tyres-tubes/auction-1152015581.htm

has anyone ever bought one?

In fact I asked them.

Hello. Has anyone EVER bought a tyre from you? This would end up costing $200NZD. If you buy a pair you are over $400 and the LANDED cost is in excess of $500 (say $400 for the tyres plus $60 for GST plus all the extra fees they tack on). So my question is: are you on crack?
Continental are pretty good, most serious multi terrain riders will pay top $ for these. $250 delivered?
Too rich for my blood... but then the continental Tyres I have on my MTB I bought on clearance when I went for a 300c conversion . 1 had $150 off the shelf price the other had $100 off. $200 the pair not fitted. Shelf price included fitting but seriously $550 the pair they better be.

That said... grippy as fuck even in the wet, very puncture resistent... radial type.

Possibly cheaper now I haven't had to buy the larger 29" tyres for 4 years or so, but back then good luck finding anything other than mud tyres for under $100.

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[jasonu]

Really...I mean really. Been around the clock and even if it was a nice one it would be worth less than half of asking price. Delusional
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1156037892.htm

Yep. It's not like the FJ1200 was or will ever be collectable or a classic.

[jasonu]

^^^^ winner!


Not motorcycling but I was looking for Rammstein stuff on tardme and this came up.

What the actual fuck? a $200 mountainbike tyre!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/cycling/parts-components/tyres-tubes/auction-1152015581.htm

has anyone ever bought one?

In fact I asked them.

Hello. Has anyone EVER bought a tyre from you? This would end up costing $200NZD. If you buy a pair you are over $400 and the LANDED cost is in excess of $500 (say $400 for the tyres plus $60 for GST plus all the extra fees they tack on). So my question is: are you on crack?


Sounds like a total rip off but maybe what he is asking is what it is really worth in NZ.
A quick google search and I found the same thing for less than $70USD.

[F5 Dave]

^^^^ winner!


Not motorcycling but I was looking for Rammstein stuff on tardme and this came up.

What the actual fuck? a $200 mountainbike tyre!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/cycling/parts-components/tyres-tubes/auction-1152015581.htm

has anyone ever bought one?

In fact I asked them.

Hello. Has anyone EVER bought a tyre from you? This would end up costing $200NZD. If you buy a pair you are over $400 and the LANDED cost is in excess of $500 (say $400 for the tyres plus $60 for GST plus all the extra fees they tack on). So my question is: are you on crack?

Du hast a mountain bike? Or Du hasst mountainbikes?

[Pound]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1156303658


$11000 for a "dropped" 2013 GSXR600 with 45,000km on the clock.



By Grathors hammer, what a savings...............

[Crasherfromwayback]

Good Englund too...100-10 percent you know...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1156253428

[HenryDorsetCase]

My A3 had a cool little display on the top of the fuel tank. Completely pointless of course because even me at 3 ft 6 tall could not see it when riding. Fuel guage I think it was

[aprilia_RS250]

Sorry if I have represented this bike in anyway not trying to rip anyone off or mislead.. I was unaware of this bike being a write off.. Everything described on trademe is what I was told from the previous owner obviously I should of done my research... I will change the auction and bring down the price.. How ever great bike best road bike to date I've ridden had a lot of fun on it.. This guy however wish you would of contacted me first rather then be a keyboard warrior about it.. Yea the parts were replaced new headlights new full fairing kit, plus some others.. As for the exhaust cover when I put the bike back together I was so eager to get out I forgot to screw down the rightside exhaust cover hard enough and on that first glorious ride the screws wriggled loose and of course the exhaust cover came off... Genuine rider here love it live it for it, see on you on the road Mr 250


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1146625439&ed=true

I commend you on fixing up the erroneous detail in your auction. I have no idea why you would say the bike has "forged pistons" or after market exhausts (when they are completely OEM) when you just admitted you have no idea what has been done to it?

Also something doesn't really add up with you saying you didn't know it was a write off. The photo of the bike in white/black... Right carbon side fairing is cracked, the front brake reservoir cap has a deep graze on front edge (this only happens when the bike is upside down btw).... The Fuel tank shows the "amazing paint work" applied on top right edge (around knee grips) and the red Yamaha logo (which is a sticker) are a dead give away this bike may have not been always on two wheels? Did you really not maybe think it could have been a decent crash/written off?

Also the title of this forum is "optimistic sellers". Just light hearted piss take. It's a free world, you can ask as much as you want for your bike but I can also comment on it.

[aprilia_RS250]

Good work standing up for yourself man. But you're wasting your breath with that fucktard.

As far as I am concerned knob cheese the kid owned up to putting up incorrect detail "inadvertently" and has changed the detail in his auction.

This doesn't make me a fucktard. It makes me right and makes you look like a clown.

[jellywrestler]

Yep. It's not like the FJ1200 was or will ever be collectable or a classic.

really, how come you're god and have decided that, just what makes it not collectable or classic?

[jellywrestler]

Good Englund too...100-10 percent you know...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1156253428

have asked him whether it's left or right hand drive, after reading your comment i doubt i'll get a reply...

[Crasherfromwayback]

I don't think so...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1156940128

[pritch]

I don't think so...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1156940128

Thanks for posting that. They may get their money, but I got a good laugh.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thanks for posting that. They may get their money, but I got a good laugh.

Nice patina though...

[Taxythingy]

Nice patina though...

One man's nice patina is another man's rust. Or something.

[jasonu]

really, how come you're god and have decided that, just what makes it not collectable or classic?

I didn't decide anything. The FJ1200 is like a brown paper bag of the motorcycle world. Functional and forgettable. I doubt you could find anyone that seriously considers the FJ1200 a classic but if you owned more than one of them then I guess that makes them collectable. Just don't count on making your fortune from it.

[Stylo]

The FJ1200 is like a brown paper bag of the motorcycle world. Functional and forgettable. I doubt you could find anyone that seriously considers the FJ1200 a classic but if you owned more than one of them then I guess that makes them collectable. Just don't count on making your fortune from it.

You're probably right but the FJ1100/1200 were fantastic bikes and the best of the class in more ways than one.

They just didn't have that X factor.

You could say that about the 380 Mitsubishi too. Best 6 cylinder car ever made in Australia in a lot of ways but you rarely see one anymore ...

[Crasherfromwayback]

You're probably right but the FJ1100/1200 were fantastic bikes and the best of the class in more ways than one.

..

Dunno 'bout that.

[Grumph]

You're probably right but the FJ1100/1200 were fantastic bikes and the best of the class in more ways than one.

They just didn't have that X factor.

You could say that about the 380 Mitsubishi too. Best 6 cylinder car ever made in Australia in a lot of ways but you rarely see one anymore ...

Ironic you mention cars...It's my understanding that Yamaha had to establish a production line for the engines in the US when the car race class using those engines took off in a big way...
From what i've heard, more of the engines were used in the cars than in bikes....

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1157022220.htm

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1157592149.htm

[AllanB]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1157022220.htm

WTF you can buy a brand new 2015 one from Kawasaki with a factory warranty for a dollar less!

http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/catalog/streetbikes/supersports/ZX1000KFFA/overview

[GrayWolf]

I didn't decide anything. The FJ1200 is like a brown paper bag of the motorcycle world. Functional and forgettable. I doubt you could find anyone that seriously considers the FJ1200 a classic but if you owned more than one of them then I guess that makes them collectable. Just don't count on making your fortune from it.


You're probably right but the FJ1100/1200 were fantastic bikes and the best of the class in more ways than one.

They just didn't have that X factor.

You could say that about the 380 Mitsubishi too. Best 6 cylinder car ever made in Australia in a lot of ways but you rarely see one anymore ...

Depends on your viewpoint..I think Stylo has it about right.
I'd say the high majority of those of us who have owned FJ1200's would consider them benchmark bikes for the age/period.
They were the first 'decent handling' Japanese bike. {the first one where the engine didnt overpower the frame} compared to the earlier bikes, they DID handle well.. Try the type of riding done today on an XS1100, Z900, GS1100 etc you soon realise suspension/frame/brakes are not up to the job.
The motor was/is an absolute 'peach'. The fact it is still used in the XJR1300 is testament to that fact, even HD have had 3 'upgrades' to the V twin in that time.
The FJ is considered even today a 'competent' touring mount, and it outlasted for production length ALL of it's contemporaries by many years. Yamaha got it 'right' with the FJ, just like the FJR1300 that finally replaced it... still in production and has outlasted all it's contemporaries bar the ST Honda.
To take off the idea of any 'rose tinted' I owned a ZZR1100 directly after the FJ1200. Absolutely a better bike in all aspects bar one... The FJ absolutely out performed the ZZR in top gear 80-140km roll on overtaking.
It is a 'classic', probably not 'collectable' yet, as there are still so many on the road compared to other bikes of the era. That fact alone is testament to the bike.

[Voltaire]

really, how come you're god and have decided that, just what makes it not collectable or classic?

+1 on not a classic or collectable. Just another fully faired two wheeled car.:laugh:

[James Deuce]

If a Mitsi 380 is the best 6 to ever come out of Australia it's a wonder that Ford and GM didn't team up to nuke Australia from orbit to prevent their Aussie product from ever being revealed to the public.

The Mitsi 380 is a wallowing, poorly assembled pig, that redefines understeer as the ability to plow furrows straight ahead while trying to change lanes on the motorway. It has an engine that makes the most uninspiring dull roar while accelerating slower than a 1964 Austin Cambridge running on three cylinders.

[HenryDorsetCase]

it's a wonder that Ford and GM didn't team up to nuke Australia from orbit to prevent their Aussie product from ever being revealed to the public.

.

They totes would have if they thought they could get away with it because they are fuckers, engaged in fuckery of the highest order.

Nice ALIENS reference BTW

[jellywrestler]

I didn't decide anything. The FJ1200 is like a brown paper bag of the motorcycle world. Functional and forgettable. I doubt you could find anyone that seriously considers the FJ1200 a classic but if you owned more than one of them then I guess that makes them collectable. Just don't count on making your fortune from it.

what is it about cunts that all they see in a classic bike is money? i've got old toys, and yes some have increased in value but there are many many better ways to make money.
anyway, explain army indians, bsa bantams etc, how come those peices of shit are classics and collectable?

[swarfie]

anyway, explain army indians, bsa bantams etc, how come those peices of shit are classics and collectable?

I'm with ya there Spyda....that's got me rooted as well:shit:

My old bangers might be increasing in value (are actually) but they're not for sale so who gives a toss. I just like riding the bloody things. Guess my kids will benefit from my obsession.:niceone:

Or by then they may be worthless:laugh:

[Drew]

Or by then they may be worthless:laugh:
I've seen you ride, so.......Yip.

[sugilite]

I consider the Yamaha FJ1100/1200 series to be very collectable.

[Drew]

I consider the Yamaha FJ1100/1200 series to be very collectable.

I've got one out back collecting cobwebs.

[jasonu]

I've got one out back collecting cobwebs.

Apparently it is a collectable classic and you should get fucking top dollar for it!!!

[F5 Dave]

Right I'll start a Dutch auction right now. Oh no, I started a Dutch oven by mistake. . .


The. . .


Smell. .

Must. . .

Reach. . .

Door. . . :sick:

[jasonu]

Right I'll start a Dutch auction right now. Oh no, I started a Dutch oven by mistake. . .


The. . .


Smell. .

Must. . .

Reach. . .

Door. . . :sick:

Your ol' lady will kill you for that...

[Night Falcon]

Nice patina though...

plus a KitKat engine upgrade.......there's 5hundy right there, you could say its "choc" full of extras :shifty:

[Crasherfromwayback]

plus a KitKat engine upgrade.......there's 5hundy right there, you could say its "choc" full of extras :shifty:

Totally original though...

[sidecar bob]

Why does this bike make me think of Voltaire?http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1158692852.htm

[Drew]

Why does this bike make me think of Voltaire?http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1158692852.htm
That's fucken awesome!

[GrayWolf]

That's fucken awesome!

That's fucken worse than a Jawa/CZ or MZ 2T.. I can remember a few of them {Vockshod's} in the UK

[F5 Dave]

Had one of these on loan for a couple of months. Was a whole lot better than walking. But well. . .

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1156574121.htm

[F5 Dave]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1107792521.htm

6 grand for an obscure 20yr old foofoo bike.

[F5 Dave]

I just keep seeing the same bikes. Listed forever. Not selling. Prices stay the same. :weird:

[Scubbo]

trademe auctions are the new Prada... way to show of your overprice hunks of shit

[Autech]

That's fucken awesome!

For once I agree with Drew. I'd ride that.


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[AllanB]

I consider the Yamaha FJ1100/1200 series to be very collectable.

Interesting. Why?

Not being rude, but there was nothing ground breaking about them - there was a very nice looking special edition in black and gold I have lustful memories of but otherwise are they not one of the best examples of a totally robust do it all Japanese IL4.

One excellent bike for modifications :-) collectible?

[Maha]

Interesting. Why?

Not being rude, but there was nothing ground breaking about them - there was a very nice looking special edition in black and gold I have lustful memories of but otherwise are they not one of the best examples of a totally robust do it all Japanese IL4.

One excellent bike for modifications :-) collectible?

Something like this may tickle your wassit.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Something like this may tickle your wassit.

That is a disgusting looking pig. You should be made to eat Judith Collins's cunt for even showing it to us, seeing as you obviously like pigs.

[HenryDorsetCase]

That is a disgusting looking pig. You should be made to eat Judith Collins's cunt for even showing it to us, seeing as you obviously like pigs.

I would. I love pussay. ;-)

[Maha]

That is a disgusting looking pig. You should be made to eat Judith Collins's cunt for even showing it to us, seeing as you obviously like pigs.

Winston says it's too dusty.

[sugilite]

Interesting. Why?

Not being rude, but there was nothing ground breaking about them - there was a very nice looking special edition in black and gold I have lustful memories of but otherwise are they not one of the best examples of a totally robust do it all Japanese IL4.

One excellent bike for modifications :-) collectible?
I think it was one of the first jap bikes with a perimeter style frame? I think from a Yamaha fan point of view, yes collectable.
I had the choice of a FJ1100 or a RZ500 back in the day when they first came out. After a test ride, it was a no brainer for me - off I went in a haze of blue smoke - BRAAAPPPP! :laugh:

[jellywrestler]

I would. I love pussay. ;-)

there's a vast difference between pussay and a dirty old stench trench like heres would be, i don't think you'd dare put anything in your fridge that looked like that...

[GrayWolf]

Interesting. Why?

Not being rude, but there was nothing ground breaking about them - there was a very nice looking special edition in black and gold I have lustful memories of but otherwise are they not one of the best examples of a totally robust do it all Japanese IL4.

One excellent bike for modifications :-) collectible?

NOTHING GROUND BREAKING? :brick::brick:

First japanese 'perimiter framed' bike. Ergo first 'decent handling' 1ltr plus Jap bike where the frame actually could HANDLE the engine performance.
It was also among first japanese 'monoshock' bikes.

Not the best example of a robust do it all??

Then why pray was the FJ1200 seen as one of the best sport tourers built? {and still respected today} it was the ONLY bike of its day that was in production for over a decade unchanged... because it was not a good, do it all, robust, big bike?
Oh it has it's issues for sure... the handling is like an ocean liner compared to today's bikes.... if it's been thrashed {like many other yam's} 2nd gear can jump out.
Rear wheel size is an 'oddball'.. it isnt economical, but then, back then? Compared to an H1 or H2 or GT750? :crazy:

That motor was a anachronism back then being air cooled, but it is an absolute peach..... maybe you should go ride an XJR 12/1300 and appreciate how sweet that engine is.

Yes I have a 'fond spot' for the FJ's..... of course by today's standards it is a bit primitive in the frame dept... but it still is very capable of huge distances at a fair clip.

[Crasherfromwayback]

NOTHING GROUND BREAKING? :brick::brick:

First japanese 'perimiter framed' bike. Ergo first 'decent handling' 1ltr plus Jap bike where the frame actually could HANDLE the engine performance.
It was also among first japanese 'monoshock' bikes.

Not the best example of a robust do it all??

.

My 1983 GPZ1100 was Uni Track (a year earlier than an FJ), and made as much power and handled better. Just as reliable, and a shitload better looking. Oh, and it was fuel injected too. :bleh: Ground breaking? Nah...

[GrayWolf]

My 1983 GPZ1100 was Uni Track (a year earlier than an FJ), and made as much power and handled better. Just as reliable, and a shitload better looking. Oh, and it was fuel injected too. :bleh: Ground breaking? Nah...

i did say one of, not the first 'monoshock' :msn-wink:
Pete I remember, rode, rode with those GPz's..... nah mate cant agree they handled 'better' than the FJ... and that perimeter frame was ground breaking' for the Japs.... think the only other bike to use it then was the Bimota, if memory serves correctly.

Yeh the fuel injected kwaka's??? let's not go there huh?? :bleh::bleh:

[jasonu]

That is a disgusting looking pig. You should be made to eat Judith Collins's cunt for even showing it to us, seeing as you obviously like pigs.

I didn't know Judith Collins had a cunt.

[AllanB]

NOTHING GROUND BREAKING? :brick::brick:

First japanese 'perimiter framed' bike. Ergo first 'decent handling' 1ltr plus Jap bike where the frame actually could HANDLE the engine performance.
It was also among first japanese 'monoshock' bikes.

Not the best example of a robust do it all??



That motor was a anachronism back then being air cooled, but it is an absolute peach..... maybe you should go ride an XJR 12/1300 and appreciate how sweet that engine is.



Best re-read what I wrote - I said 'are they not one of the best examples of a robust ......' NOT 'they are not ..' as you have taken it. And yes I have ridden them but if looking for a collectors bike for future value (which was the start of this comment) I'd look somewhere else.

Bloody fine bikes but still nothing groundbreaking IMO to make them collectible.

Mono shock was out way before that model - Yamaha I recall had them on the LC two strokes, Kawasaki on GPZ's Honda Pro-link ......



Of that era the first model GSXR750 is collectible as a game changer.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeh the fuel injected kwaka's??? let's not go there huh?? :bleh::bleh:

Kawasaki first injected the KZ1000 in 1980. By the time my GPZ came along (after the GPZ1100B2), they had it well sorted. I owned that thing for years. Drag raced it, road raced it, and generally cause havoc with it. Went trouble free for ever. Coped with going from 1100 to 1170, from std exhaust to 4-1, airbox to none. Never missed a beat. :headbang:

[Maha]

That is a disgusting looking pig. You should be made to eat Judith Collins's cunt for even showing it to us, seeing as you obviously like pigs.


You too, should be forced to eat Judith Collins's cunt for posting such things. You need to get out more. That bike, is as much of an ugly fat pig as she is.

Your obvious fascination with the National MP's private parts and pork is....disturbing to the point where maybe it's your half secret fantasy.

[Madness]

I didn't know Judith Collins had a cunt.

Her husband does. That and swamp kauri.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Your obvious fascination with the National MP's private parts and pork is....disturbing to the point where maybe it's your half secret fantasy.

It's weird that despite me using said things the way I do, you've taken it as a fascination. Think that says more about you mate.

[jellywrestler]

It was also among first japanese 'monoshock' bikes.

.
pretty embarrassing to crow about some thing that flying merkel did in about 1910, and others before really.

[Maha]

It's weird that despite me using said things the way I do, you've taken it as a fascination. Think that says more about you mate.

A lot of things fascinate me, it's quite a substantial list, but certainly no part of Judith Collins....and never twice in one day.

[Night Falcon]

I just keep seeing the same bikes. Listed forever. Not selling. Prices stay the same. :weird:

Was following all the DR's for sale on TM a while back. Kept details of what sold and what didn't (most of them).

Conclusions:
1. There are lots of DR's for sale at any given time
2. Folks expect to get out of the Charlie/Ewan midlife crisis they leapt into at little to no cost.
3. Most DR sellers have zero marketing nouse
4. Adding 2K of add on's to your DR wont get you a $500 off RRP sale price (even with only 1800klm on the clock...... its still 2nd hand)
5. A lot of DR sellers know better than purchasers about the value of their near new DR with 2K of extras and if they keep relisting the purchasers will come round
6. It is possible to sell a DR in under a week if you list it at an attractive price

Not sure if these findings are typical for other bike models

[AllanB]

Not sure if these findings are typical for other bike models

Nail it I think.


My favorite is the ones who list all the extras and the individual cost of the goodies.

You don't ever get that cost back.

Do it because you want to on your bike. Just don't expect to get the cost back. You are better off taking the goodies off, putting stock bits back and selling the bling on TM.

[mossy1200]

Not sure if these findings are typical for other bike models

My bike had a few buyers after a few days on listing here. One is still keen if the new owner doesn't collect as planned.
I probably made the mistake of asking what its worth.
Before I bought it a year ago there was one I considered in Hawera and offered him 3k
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1154209219.htm

15 months later its still for sale

[Katman]

it was the ONLY bike of its day that was in production for over a decade unchanged...

Kawasaki's GT750 beat it's longevity by a long shot.

[GrayWolf]

Best re-read what I wrote - I said 'are they not one of the best examples of a robust ......' NOT 'they are not ..' as you have taken it. And yes I have ridden them but if looking for a collectors bike for future value (which was the start of this comment) I'd look somewhere else.

Bloody fine bikes but still nothing groundbreaking IMO to make them collectible.

Mono shock was out way before that model - Yamaha I recall had them on the LC two strokes, Kawasaki on GPZ's Honda Pro-link ......

Of that era the first model GSXR750 is collectible as a game changer.

My apologies. I did read that incorrectly.


Kawasaki first injected the KZ1000 in 1980. By the time my GPZ came along (after the GPZ1100B2), they had it well sorted. I owned that thing for years. Drag raced it, road raced it, and generally cause havoc with it. Went trouble free for ever. Coped with going from 1100 to 1170, from std exhaust to 4-1, airbox to none. Never missed a beat. :headbang:

Yes well Lets say I do remember the H and the B1 injected...... maybe it was why I went the XJ route for a while.... but did go back to the big K with a ZL1000 and loved it.. except it handled like an articulated lorry

[Crasherfromwayback]

. but did go back to the big K with a ZL1000 and loved it.. except it handled like an articulated lorry

What did you expect of a drag replica?

[F5 Dave]

i did say one of the first 'monoshock' :msn-wink:
Pete I remember, rode, rode with those GPz's..... nah mate cant agree they handled 'better' than the FJ... and that perimeter frame was ground breaking' for the Japs.... think the only other bike to use it then was the Bimota, if memory serves correctly.

Yeh the fuel injected kwaka's??? let's not go there huh?? :bleh::bleh:
1978 DT175 goes mono. For Japanese bikes thats earlier. And super common on the road when i was a lad.

[F5 Dave]

Good analysis Falcon.

I do wonder what purple H2 owner is thinking. Heck, many years later its taking up space, probably doesn't ride it, just bought it to tell people he has a widowmaker. But now the bike is idle instead of being used by someone who could enjoy it (and put some better looking pipes on it rather than those poxy ones, originals being hard to get).

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1158680561.htm

I mean if it doesn't sell in the first five years, perhaps maybe you're asking too much. But no, continue extending the listing again and again for more years.
In 2030 it will be rare enough it will finally sell and he'll bore everyone saying. "There I told you". But they've all learned to avoid him.

[jellywrestler]

1978 DT175 goes mono. For Japanese bikes thats earlier. And super common on the road when i was a lad.

is this like the special olympics where the japs get a handicap?, the yanks did in 1910 vincent in the forties, one assembly two springs but still a mono unit, in paralell and yamaha in 1975
as for perimeter frames, a mate in fielding has a 1930's coventry eagle with that design

[F5 Dave]

You mean a bit like the equivalent of Bears racing?

[husaberg]

is this like the special olympics where the japs get a handicap?, the yanks did in 1910 vincent in the forties, one assembly two springs but still a mono unit, in paralell and yamaha in 1975
as for perimeter frames, a mate in fielding has a 1930's coventry eagle with that design

Pretty sure HRD/Vincent first did a real cantilever monoshock in about 1927.
straight rails like a Seeley mk4
Years behind the flying Merkel though.
The old FannyB bikes had a straight rail perimeter trellis as well in the 30's
Built like a bridge (a Bailey one)
324391

Edit it was 1928 and two shocks
324390

[jellywrestler]

Pretty sure HRD/Vincent first did a real cantilever monoshock in about 1927.
straight rails like a Seeley mk4
Years behind the flying Merkel though.
The old FannyB bikes had a straight rail trellis as well in the 30's
Built like a bridge (a Bailey one)

Edit it was 1928 and two shocks
324390

there were many, some may have used two shocks in parallel, but effectivly a monoshock set up, matchless silver hawks and arrows are late twenties oh didn't John Britten use them too?

[Voltaire]

is this like the special olympics where the japs get a handicap?, the yanks did in 1910 vincent in the forties, one assembly two springs but still a mono unit, in paralell and yamaha in 1975
as for perimeter frames, a mate in fielding has a 1930's coventry eagle with that design

Don't forget disc brakes, 1923 ...but Thrurrockfrogmorton probably did it earlier.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-D8ukgCPnn80/UjEVENuFVzI/AAAAAAAAY_k/gNWh_I0zGpc/s1600/IMG_0545.jpg

[husaberg]

there were many, some may have used two shocks in parallel, but effectivly a monoshock set up, matchless silver hawks and arrows are late twenties oh didn't John Britten use them too?

If only he had used the Neracars centerhub.
http://www.usscootermuseum.com/neracar7.jpg
Not to mention Sun had disk valves 30 or so years before Zimmerman and Kaaden discovered them with the MZ's

[Voltaire]

If only he had used the Neracars centerhub.
http://www.usscootermuseum.com/neracar7.jpg
Not to mention Sun had disk valves 30 or so years before Zimmerman and Kaaden discovered them with the MZ's

Were they getting 200 HP per litre like MZ?;)

2 stokes changed forever once Degner gave the designs to Suzuki.

I was caging to work on Friday and a RD summit was sitting at the lights, wound the window down, the smell took me back to Eastern Europe in '89...ah Trabants, MZ's and Wartburgs

[husaberg]

Were they getting 200 HP per litre like MZ?;)

2 stokes changed forever once Degner gave the designs to Suzuki.

I was caging to work on Friday and a RD summit was sitting at the lights, wound the window down, the smell took me back to Eastern Europe in '89...ah Trabants, MZ's and Wartburgs

No but they were finishing races.
To be sure the japanese had the edge in R&D spending and metallurgy.

[Grumph]

Don't forget disc brakes, 1923 ...but Thrurrockfrogmorton probably did it earlier.

RA Douglas The old man's first speedway iron was a converted RA. He reckoned it was the only good use for that model as the brakes were crap....

[jellywrestler]

RA Douglas The old man's first speedway iron was a converted RA. He reckoned it was the only good use for that model as the brakes were crap....

you've got a father, I always thought you were quarried.

[ural]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1160020876.htm

like did they mistyped the first digit? it should be 1.. even then it's still not a great deal

[pritch]

To be sure the japanese had the edge in R&D spending and metallurgy.

The R&D and metallurgy remarks apply to Honda but not so much to Suzuki.

If you read Hugh Anderson's book it will be apparent that any "edge" Suzuki had was microscopically thin. While the other riders were out smoking, drinking, and dining up large, Anderson was in the garage until late with his mechanic working on his bikes. He was removing high spots from the bores and changing gear ratios from those stipulated by the factory to what he thought they should be.

The other riders decided therefore that the greater speed and reliabilty of his bikes was due to favouritism on the part of the factory toward Anderson.

Maybe, maybe not.

[husaberg]

The R&D and metallurgy remarks apply to Honda but not so much to Suzuki.

If you read Hugh Anderson's book it will be apparent that any "edge" Suzuki had was microscopically thin. While the other riders were out smoking, drinking, and dining up large, Anderson was in the garage until late with his mechanic working on his bikes. He was removing high spots from the bores and changing gear ratios from those stipulated by the factory to what he thought they should be.

The other riders decided therefore that the greater speed and reliabilty of his bikes was due to favouritism on the part of the factory toward Anderson.

Maybe, maybe not.
Not as good as Hondas maybe, but it was still miles better than the east Germans, for instance Kaaden couldn't get decent plugs or ignition he had to trade MZ brakes for old Norton roadholder forks, he used to get these from Francis Beart and sneak them through the boarder up his Trousers.

[jellywrestler]

The R&D and metallurgy remarks apply to Honda but not so much to Suzuki.

If you read Hugh Anderson's book it will be apparent that any "edge" Suzuki had was microscopically thin. While the other riders were out smoking, drinking, and dining up large, Anderson was in the garage until late with his mechanic working on his bikes. He was removing high spots from the bores and changing gear ratios from those stipulated by the factory to what he thought they should be.

The other riders decided therefore that the greater speed and reliabilty of his bikes was due to favouritism on the part of the factory toward Anderson.

Maybe, maybe not.

hugh used to let them pump the tyres up, wheel it round,the side of the tent and let a couple of psi out, ermember too, he wasn't carrying any weight as such, but stood a foot or so taller than the other riders on those little 50's and 125's so imagine if the weight thing was even, he'd have been a step above them all, or moreso

[Crasherfromwayback]

This heap of shit...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1160218197

[Pound]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1160020876.htm

like did they mistyped the first digit? it should be 1.. even then it's still not a great deal


Saw a Nuda R a year ago on Trade Me with more mods and 2000 less kms for $12000

[EJK]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1160020876.htm

like did they mistyped the first digit? it should be 1.. even then it's still not a great deal

You see those wrapped headers? Yeah... $$$

[aprilia_RS250]

You see those wrapped headers? Yeah... $$$

Just wait till "Drew" (AKA knob cheese) tries to tell you not to diss a seller who wants too much.

[Banditbandit]

This heap of shit...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1160218197



hey ..it's not that good ..

[Crasherfromwayback]

hey ..it's not that good ..

Even a good one is a heap of shit.

[Banditbandit]

In case you missed it - I was suggesting that it is not good enough to be called a heap of shit ...

[Taxythingy]

This heap of shit...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1160218197

"I ran out of oxy acetylene years ago so never cut it up for scrap."

Fixed.

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1162166567.htm


mmmmMMMMMmmmmm dat ass.

[Maha]

Beauty is in the eye of the bee holder.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1162421718.htm

I don't understand why worth so much.

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1162421718.htm

I don't understand why worth so much.

It's not. 13k tops. It's the old 1130 engine too.

[pritch]

Strange description, it almost covers the catalogue - and all in one bike!

"Vrod night rod sporster hard tail custom night Train big block" ?

[mossy1200]

It's not. 13k tops. It's the old 1130 engine too.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1085482359.htm

I noticed a dealership selling 1250 2013 for less but not being learned in the way of Harley wasn't sure how the older one could be worth so much.

[Grumph]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1162166567.htm


mmmmMMMMMmmmmm dat ass.

Hell no...For less money you can pick up an early GSXR750 which is a better bike in so very many ways - and a genuinely bulletproof motor.

[jasonu]

It's not. 13k tops. It's the old 1130 engine too.

Shirley you are talking pesos...

[mossy1200]

Strange description, it almost covers the catalogue - and all in one bike!

"Vrod night rod sporster hard tail custom night Train big block" ?

model is VNRSHTCNTBB ?

[AllanB]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1162166567.htm


mmmmMMMMMmmmmm dat ass.

Advert states:
All positive comments and genuine inquiries welcome, but please keep your personal negative comments to yourself.

So I'm not allowed to comment ............

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1162197790.htm

Am I still in the great value bike thread?

[JimO]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1162197790.htm

Am I still in the great value bike thread?
so do you get a engine with it?

[mossy1200]

so do you get a engine with it?

Nope but its lams approved as is.

[nzspokes]

Nope but its lams approved as is.

Chuck a Briggs and Stratton in and it will be faster than stock.

[F5 Dave]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1162166567.htm


mmmmMMMMMmmmmm dat ass.
They sure know how to make em ugly. Just everywhere you look.

[mossy1200]

Chuck Norris and Pedals and it will be 10 times faster than stock.


Changed that for you. Always go large.

[hayd3n]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1162197790.htm

Am I still in the great value bike thread?

wtf how do you kill a engine at 8500kms??
my 600 is on 120,000 and it loves the redline

[F5 Dave]

[Channeling the boss]; Booourne inna USA, I wuz booorne inna YouEssAy

[Drew]

wtf how do you kill a engine at 8500kms??
my 600 is on 120,000 and it loves the redline

Lots of 600s don't make it to 120000 though. Lots of Harleys do (I don't actually know this for sure, it just seems likely).

[hayd3n]

Lots of 600s don't make it to 120000 though. Lots of Harleys do (I don't actually know this for sure, it just seems likely).

well all clearances are mint and she purrs like a angry kitten :)
i bet that broken harley is still on original tyres

[jasonu]

Chuck a Briggs and Stratton in and it will be faster than stock.

and more reliable

[Drew]

Chuck a Briggs and Stratton in and it will be faster than stock.

I've got an horizontal crank 400cc Briggs and Straton in the shed.

[Banditbandit]

I've got an horizontal crank 400cc Briggs and Straton in the shed.

Lot of good it's doing there .. are you going to use it in a racing chair?

[Drew]

Lot of good it's doing there .. are you going to use it in a racing chair?

It came out to make room for a CBR400 lump in the lawnmower.

[Crasherfromwayback]

No thanks...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1162893237

[Banditbandit]

No thanks...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1162893237

Naaa ...


This is a rare model there were only a few ever produced it is in effect an 850 except for barrels and pistons

adds at least $10grand to the price .. doesn't it (I feel a tui billboard coming on ...)

[pritch]

Naaa

adds at least $10grand to the price .. doesn't it (I feel a tui billboard coming on ...)

Wonder if he'd swap for my 2009 SE Speed Triple? Similar money. Naaa was right.:whistle:

[avgas]

No thanks...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1162893237
I never understood this model. The XS750 / 850 was a good bike. Who looked at it and went "You know what's wrong with it - it's not cruiser enough" ??????

[Crasherfromwayback]

I never understood this model. The XS750 / 850 was a good bike. Who looked at it and went "You know what's wrong with it - it's not cruiser enough" ??????

Yeah I quite like those old girls too. By the way...where you been hiding of late?

[eldog]

I never understood this model. The XS750 / 850 was a good bike. Who looked at it and went "You know what's wrong with it - it's not cruiser enough" ??????
Careful owner and just a few ks running in......:drinknsin

[F5 Dave]

No thanks...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1162893237

I used to have a yam 750 SP. don't seem to remember it looking much like that. Maybe it was the model before. Didn't Nori Haga win the Jap superbike series on one of those?

[AllanB]

No thanks...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1162893237

Fucks sake. That has to win a 2016 KB award!

Restored - I don't remember a dent in the muffler being factory.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I used to have a yam 750 SP. don't seem to remember it looking much like that. Maybe it was the model before. Didn't Nori Haga win the Jap superbike series on one of those?

Yours prob had six piston front calipers even!


Fucks sake. That has to win a 2016 KB award!

Restored - I don't remember a dent in the muffler being factory.

Total pile of shit.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Why the fuck would you even take pics before you put the fucking fairings back on if you want top dollar!?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1163485761

Speaking of Judith...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1163221992

[Madness]

Speaking of Judith...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1163221992

I'd tap it for $5k. The Goldwing that is, not Judith.

[Drew]

Why the fuck would you even take pics before you put the fucking fairings back on if you want top dollar!?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1163485761

Speaking of Judith...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1163221992

I really like the GL.

[BuzzardNZ]

Speaking of Judith...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1163221992

different tastes I suppose, but I reckon that goldwing looks bloody amazing.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I really like the GL.


different tastes I suppose, but I reckon that goldwing looks bloody amazing.

Sick cunts.

[Drew]

Sick cunts.

Looks cool as fuck to my eye.

[Ocean1]

I really like the GL.

Me too.

Desperately needs a turbo kit though.

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1163221992[/url]

I really like that. Tragic I know.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Me too.

Desperately needs a turbo kit though.

supercharger easier to package? and if I buy it will you?

[madandy]

I waded through these many 'optimistic sellers' auctions recently...
There's always a few comical buggers with few clues what they're selling
I got my very tidy 2 owner 919 (2bros. Pipe otherwise OEM) with 19kms for $4.5k and only round the corner in Rotorua, so pretty happy.

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1043697902.htm

I dont even. $25k??

[F5 Dave]

. . . eSpeaking of Judith...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1163221992
That GL looks Sick! The original meaning.

Desperately needs to be introduced to a sharp corner with whatever meagre speed it can muster.

[AllanB]

Speaking of Judith...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1163221992



That is friggen cool. Love the front end on it. Note the front turn signals appears to be LED's on the fork tubes.

Colour would not be my choice but the style works.

Anyone got a old GL going real cheap?

[Crasherfromwayback]

That is friggen cool. Love the front end on it. Note the front turn signals appears to be LED's on the fork tubes.

Colour would not be my choice but the style works.

Anyone got a old GL going real cheap?

Never did I realize there were so many sick fucks out there!

[Katman]

Never did I realize there were so many sick fucks out there!

You've sorely under estimated the depravity of this place.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You've sorely under estimated the depravity of this place.

Obviously. Gold Wings are fat ugly pigs at the best of times. When you try to make it anything other than what it is...you're really losing touch with reality.

[AllanB]

Obviously. Gold Wings are fat ugly pigs at the best of times. When you try to make it anything other than what it is...you're really losing touch with reality.

Nothing wrong with a bit of weight if styled well.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah, but fat, ugly, and can't `cook`?

[hayd3n]

That is friggen cool. Love the front end on it. Note the front turn signals appears to be LED's on the fork tubes.

Colour would not be my choice but the style works.

Anyone got a old GL going real cheap?

i prefer the deathwing thread dredge
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/155167-76-Goldwing-GL1000-quot-Deathwing-quot

[WristTwister]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1043697902.htm

I dont even. $25k??

That's the price I've seen on one going for at a dealership in Wellington.

[pritch]

That's the price I've seen on one going for at a dealership in Wellington.

I'd never buy another Triumph "special edition", and they are a fairly regular occurrence. Sure, they come with most of the accessory catalogue fitted as standard - for only a few thousand extra. When you go to trade though it's just another Triumph of that year, the extra $$$$ have magically evaporated.

Once bitten... :whistle:

[Pumba]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1043697902.htm

I dont even. $25k??

$2k over list price from what I can tell.

[AllanB]

I'd never buy another Triumph "special edition", and they are a fairly regular occurrence. Sure, they come with most of the accessory catalogue fitted as standard - for only a few thousand extra. When you go to trade though it's just another Triumph of that year, the extra $$$$ have magically evaporated.

Once bitten... :whistle:

Agree - it is just more desirable as a trade as it will move faster in the shop.

Best spend your bucks on a R spec - at least you get he fancy suspenders. However I have noticed in more and more magazine reviews the writers are questioning the cost of the R over the standard as the standard gear is more than most need on public roads (and more adjustable than most riders know what to do with).

The goodies I buy for my ride are that - for me. There is always a box of stock parts to put back on when selling. I have noticed people are generally more inclined to lean towards a nicely piped bike and dealers like them (like them more if you provide the stock ones too).

[AllanB]

i prefer the deathwing thread dredge
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/155167-76-Goldwing-GL1000-quot-Deathwing-quot

Not in the same league! I'd forgotten about that one - I think I had blanked it from my memory after seeing the welding on the inlet pipes .....

[Ocean1]

supercharger easier to package? and if I buy it will you?

You don't need me mate, it's a piece of piss.

http://thekneeslider.com/randakks-supercharger-for-honda-gl1000-gl1100/

And I can't do the tuning after it's bolted up anyway.

Grumph needs keeping off the streets. :laugh:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Obviously. Gold Wings are fat ugly pigs at the best of times. When you try to make it anything other than what it is...you're really losing touch with reality.

I read the 1975 Cycle World from when it was launched and it was the king of performance in its year. Cook Neilsen was doing 11 second quarters on their test one IIRC.

Why dont motorcyle magazines of my youth have their entire contents online, and google indexed?

I'd pay money for that shit. Ive got Cycle and Cycle world going back to 1982....

[Grumph]

You don't need me mate, it's a piece of piss.

And I can't do the tuning after it's bolted up anyway.

Grumph needs keeping off the streets. :laugh:

I'm in wellington briefly next weekend - don't make me come looking for you...

JJ Cobas did an endurance race spaceframe version GL1000 - I've always felt that would make a superb pre 82 joke.
Edit - looks like I was wrong on this. Could have sworn i'd seen a pic but can't find any mention of it.

[Drew]

I'm in wellington briefly next weekend - don't make me come looking for you...

JJ Cobas did an endurance race spaceframe version GL1000 - I've always felt that would make a superb pre 82 joke.

Flying up or driving? Could save a curier fee for this motor.

[Grumph]

Flying up or driving? Could save a curier fee for this motor.

PM sent....

[Ocean1]

I'm in wellington briefly next weekend - don't make me come looking for you...

JJ Cobas did an endurance race spaceframe version GL1000 - I've always felt that would make a superb pre 82 joke.

I don't know much about them, other than they've got a reputation for being fairly abuse proof. But slapping a blower on on would have to be almost the easiest HP you could get.

Not sure what sort of lean angle you'd manage out of one, and gearing is bound to be a problem for track work but for less bendy work an enhanced version would be a bit different, and probably reasonably capable.

[Drew]

I don't know much about them, other than they've got a reputation for being fairly abuse proof. But slapping a blower on on would have to be almost the easiest HP you could get.

Not sure what sort of lean angle you'd manage out of one, and gearing is bound to be a problem for track work but for less bendy work an enhanced version would be a bit different, and probably reasonably capable.

Still narrower than BMWs. Tyres were useless for big angles in the day anyway , they rode bikes different.

[pritch]

Best spend your bucks on a R spec - at least you get he fancy suspenders.

Not sure the R was a thing back then, but I've got the fancy suspenders: Racetech front end and Ohlins on the back, all 'made to measure'. Ohlins didn't offer hydraulic preload for Speed Triples but mine has that. (There are advantages to having Dr Robert living locally.)

Mind you, the Ohlins was not fitted when I took the bike to get a trade in price. I'm not giving that away.

[Ocean1]

Still narrower than BMWs. Tyres were useless for big angles in the day anyway , they rode bikes different.

Yeah probably. Mounted fairly high too, and I suspect new wheels and 17/70/190's wouldn't be too much of a problem.

Different is always good. I followed a guy on a wing around some of the road from Russel to Kawakawa, in fact I stayed behind him for 20min, it was enormously entertaining. :laugh: Never tried one on though.

[F5 Dave]

I'm in wellington briefly next weekend - don't make me come looking for you...

JJ Cobas did an endurance race spaceframe version GL1000 - I've always felt that would make a superb pre 82 joke.
Always welcome for a beer (if that won't actually kill you) and yer near the hutt.

[jasonu]

I really like the GL.

It is a hell of a lot less ugly than the standard GL.

[jasonu]

Nothing wrong with a bit of weight if styled well.

Fart and give us a clue.

[husaberg]

I read the 1975 Cycle World from when it was launched and it was the king of performance in its year. Cook Neilsen was doing 11 second quarters on their test one IIRC.

Why dont motorcyle magazines of my youth have their entire contents online, and google indexed?

I'd pay money for that shit. Ive got Cycle and Cycle world going back to 1982....

They do, you can with cycle world anyway.
http://covertocover.cycleworld.com/covertocover/

https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=MvO5RoR1buMC&pg=RA5-PA17&lpg=RA5-PA17&dq=cycle+world+1982&source=bl&ots=Pfw1_BLQhN&sig=00m6YuM9UluJYu30egIr_pkpcrk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHpOa1sJjPAhVo8IMKHXMHB3IQ6AEIOzAF#v=on epage&q=cycle%20world%201982&f=false

[Crasherfromwayback]

This cunt could just about take the cake...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1164474574

[Dadpole]

At least he got the name right.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1164572508.htm

[Ocean1]

This cunt could just about take the cake...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1164474574

Shouldn't that be a leading link?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Shouldn't that be a leading link?

Nah, they have normal forks.

[Drew]

This cunt could just about take the cake...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1164474574
We have a winner!


I want his drugs!

[jellywrestler]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1164663634.htm



better bend performance.....

[pritch]

We have a winner!


The spelling in these ads can induce despair or amusement depending on your mood or outlook at the time.
I'll give this dude 10/10 for the originality of his "faulks"...

[Drew]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1164663634.htm



better bend performance.....
I assume with the raised pegs you can't feel it bend in the middle as much.

[Drew]

The spelling in these ads can induce despair or amusement depending on your mood or outlook at the time.
I'll give this dude 10/10 for the originality of his "faulks"...
If he's as twisted as he'd need to be at $4k buy now, I'm impressed we can sort of make out what he means. I can't spell my name when I'm that high.

[F5 Dave]

This cunt could just about take the cake...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1164474574

Finally a useful application of exhaust wrap. Stop you getting so burnt.

[F5 Dave]

At least he got the name right.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1164572508.htm

AHAHA AHAHA AHAHA

Sigh. Fantastic. Thank you.

[OddDuck]

At least he got the name right.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1164572508.htm

+1, good work sir. I particularly like how it's spelled that way right through the whole listing.

[sidecar bob]

Well I'm considering listing my antique MV on trade me, but I'm scared you pricks won't have a clue what it's worth & pack it in here & call me a cunt. What to do?:msn-wink:

[AllanB]

Well I'm considering listing my antique MV on trade me, but I'm scared you pricks won't have a clue what it's worth & pack it in here & call me a cunt. What to do?:msn-wink:

Advertise it as a 'cunt magnet' - those bikes are worth a lot more.

[haydes55]

Well I'm considering listing my antique MV on trade me, but I'm scared you pricks won't have a clue what it's worth & pack it in here & call me a cunt. What to do?:msn-wink:
Sell it to me for $1000 instead of facing the embarrassment

[jasonu]

Well I'm considering listing my antique MV on trade me, but I'm scared you pricks won't have a clue what it's worth & pack it in here & call me a cunt. What to do?:msn-wink:

But some on here already call you a cunt...:corn:

[sidecar bob]

But some on here already call you a cunt...:corn:

Mainly Drew, so that doesn't count.

[Drew]

Mainly Drew, so that doesn't count.

Why doesn't that count cunt?

[sidecar bob]

Why doesn't that count cunt?

When a cunt calls a cunt a cunt it doesn't count.:bleh:

[Drew]

When a cunt calls a cunt a cunt it doesn't count.:bleh:

Ah, I see your logic.

[mossy1200]

Well I'm considering listing my antique MV on trade me, but I'm scared you pricks won't have a clue what it's worth & pack it in here & call me a cunt. What to do?:msn-wink:

Im prepared to pay you lots of chips and shit so don't listen to these cunts.

[IronPawz]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1164663634.htm

better bend performance.....

I like the polished douche looking bar ends. Finally a gal can flush with some style.

[Laava]

When a cunt calls a cunt a cunt it doesn't count.:bleh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYGy-j_oH5Q&sns=em

[aprilia_RS250]

When a cunt calls a cunt a cunt it doesn't count.:bleh:

Drew is a knob cheese. He made himself look a idiot when he decided to back a seller who had knowingly misrepresented the bike on his advert.

:wacko:

[sidecar bob]

Drew is a knob cheese.

:wacko:

Drew is also a bloke I spend a bit of time with when im able, so I can understand your point of view & totally agree.:msn-wink:

[aprilia_RS250]

Drew is also a bloke I spend a bit of time with when im able, so I can understand your point of view & totally agree.:msn-wink:

Jesus has he got friends?!

[Banditbandit]

Jesus has he got friends?!

No-one comes here for friends .. do they?

[caseye]

"Friend"Fuck that I want to be able to abuse everybody sometime!

[sidecar bob]

"Friend"Fuck that I want to be able to abuse everybody sometime!

There's absolutely nothing about being Drews friend that stops me abusing him, in fact it's damn near compulsory.

[Drew]

Drew is a knob cheese. He made himself look a idiot when he decided to back a seller who had knowingly misrepresented the bike on his advert.

:wacko:
I didn't back anyone. I said your information was out of date.


As you were.

[husaberg]

I didn't back anyone. I said your information was out of date.


As you were.

It would have been better with your traditional sentence structure.:bleh:


Cunt I didn't back anyone. I said your information was out of date cunt.
As you were cunt.

[F5 Dave]

Anyway before you lovebirds need a room.

Try this for size (said the . . . )


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1161362992.htm

Worth every dollar. Cough.

[Drew]

It would have been better with your traditional sentence structure.:bleh:
Lol.

Anyway before you lovebirds need a room.

Try this for size (said the . . . )


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1161362992.htm

Worth every dollar. Cough.
Jesus Christ, what the fuck could give anyone the idea that's worth more than $1500?

[F5 Dave]

He's a webel and he'll never ever be any good:tugger:

[AllanB]

Anyway before you lovebirds need a room.

Try this for size (said the . . . )


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1161362992.htm

Worth every dollar. Cough.


You are missing the vision

[Drew]

You are missing the vision

I really really like that!

[F5 Dave]

The thing that appeals is that is a super minimalist implementation, not often achieved. Those tyres look scary and as soon as you start it up reality will puttputt, albeit loudly, back to earth what you are sitting on.

[Drew]

The thing that appeals is that is a super minimalist implementation, not often achieved. Those tyres look scary and as soon as you start it up reality will puttputt, albeit loudly, back to earth what you are sitting on.

Don't get me wrong, it'd ride terrible like. But it looks fantastic. Be good for a poodle to the pub from time to time, and things like the Distinguished gentleman's ride coming up.

[awayatc]

Be good for a poodle to the pub from time to time, .

I wouldn't let my dog buy a bike.....

[jellywrestler]

I really really like that!

fuck you really do need help.

[Drew]

fuck you really do need help.

Prolly. But it looks well done in that pic.

[pritch]

Well I'm considering listing my antique MV on trade me, but I'm scared you pricks won't have a clue what it's worth & pack it in here & call me a cunt. What to do?:msn-wink:

That's possible. Have you put exhaust rap on it? That should make it worth more. :whistle: