Optimistic sellers

[Scubbo]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1560206879.htm?rsqid=885267a6feec4ac4834e8f9e70e60 05c

not sure what the second exhaust plugs into

[Tazz]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1560206879.htm?rsqid=885267a6feec4ac4834e8f9e70e60 05c

not sure what the second exhaust plugs into

A catheter maybe?

[F5 Dave]

GeeZuss, what a POS. No way it gets a woof (actually predictive text is more accurate there;))

Slug from new but sheesh.

[pritch]

Steve McQueen :gob:

He could time travel and jump WW2 fences on a post war bike....that's impressive.



Agreed. Except that wasn't Steve McQueen who jumped the fence on his Zundap 750 side valve flat twin, or whatever that Triumph was supposed to be. And when I just re-watched that Youtube clip, that fence was sooo much smaller than it looked in 1963.

[jasonu]

Would look good next to me old slabbie.

Be like mother and son. Make a great display in the lounge

[jasonu]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1560206879.htm?rsqid=885267a6feec4ac4834e8f9e70e60 05c

not sure what the second exhaust plugs into

What a cunt!!!

[jasonu]

Agreed. Except that wasn't Steve McQueen who jumped the fence on his Zundap 750 side valve flat twin, or whatever that Triumph was supposed to be. And when I just re-watched that Youtube clip, that fence was sooo much smaller than it looked in 1963.

It was a great movie. Stop looking behind the curtain.

[AllanB]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1560206879.htm?rsqid=885267a6feec4ac4834e8f9e70e60 05c

not sure what the second exhaust plugs into

I thought it may be the carb inlet - but alas it appears to be fake news

[T.W.R]

Agreed. Except that wasn't Steve McQueen who jumped the fence on his Zundap 750 side valve flat twin, or whatever that Triumph was supposed to be. And when I just re-watched that Youtube clip, that fence was sooo much smaller than it looked in 1963.

McQueen did most of the ride scenes but the jump itself (by common belief & understanding) was done by his race coach/mentor & mate Bud Ekins. McQueen wasn't allowed due to the insurers for the film not wanting any problems etc if the scene went belly-up. The TR6 was used because it was a shitload lighter than using an authentic Kraut bike.
There's reference to it all on multiple sites and where the bike currently is and who owns it now ;)

[T.W.R]

I thought it may be the carb inlet - but alas it appears to be fake news

He flicks it around for winter riding as a Jimmy warmer ;)

[husaberg]

McQueen did most of the ride scenes but the jump itself (by common belief & understanding) was done by his race coach/mentor & mate Bud Ekins. McQueen wasn't allowed due to the insurers for the film not wanting any problems etc if the scene went belly-up. The TR6 was used because it was a shitload lighter than using an authentic Kraut bike.
There's reference to it all on multiple sites and where the bike currently is and who owns it now ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xB81vqi2O4

[Voltaire]

geez....next your all going to say Kelly's Hero's never happened either...:laugh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgeIINs1TrQ

[Dadpole]

Damn you Volty. Now I have to watch that film again....

[WALRUS]

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/north-parramatta/motorcycles/honda-rvf-400-/1172424908

Here's one from this side of the ditch.. I know that these are kinda sought after these days (hell, I want one myself) but it's got that ghastly "RC211V" body kit on it, 23,000kms on the clock and being sold for AUD$7,500 (around NZD$8,050 currently)

I remember when these were all being sold for two or three grand, original, and tidy...

And holy shit, I know it's almost half the price but this abomination!?!? https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mordialloc/motorcycles/honda-rvf-400-1998-/1158759510

[F5 Dave]

Save me jeebuzz, that is one fucked up bike. Who looked at that and said. Yeah. Yeah that' finished. :crazy:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Save me jeebuzz, that is one fucked up bike. Who looked at that and said. Yeah. Yeah that' finished. :crazy:

Kerry Dukie?

[F5 Dave]

Ahahahaha.

Ha


Ha.

[WALRUS]

Save me jeebuzz, that is one fucked up bike. Who looked at that and said. Yeah. Yeah that' finished. :crazy:

Literally every detail makes me angrier than the last

[Banditbandit]

*sigh*

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1557311282.htm?rsqid=a1bc2122571346a09167f07627cdb 8b2


I like it - but not $9grand like ...

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/738027558.jpg

[WALRUS]

Save me jeebuzz, that is one fucked up bike. Who looked at that and said. Yeah. Yeah that' finished. :crazy:

Worse than that, someone bought it!!

https://image.ibb.co/fgh0v7/Untitled.png

[Crasherfromwayback]

Worse than that, someone bought it!!

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Well, some people like fucking fat chicks.

[Southern scratcher]

Surely someone else has already posted this one: https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1557615980.htm?rsqid=54be3704664e4692b405936886f6e 3fc

This guy is the dreamer of all dreamers. I sold a '94 model of this bike in race trim a bit over a year ago for 3k and I bought it off the previous owner for 3K

So at what point does a sub 5K bike suddenly become a 13K bike??

I dunno, but I'll have some of what he's on thanks. :doobey:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Surely someone else has already posted this one: https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1557615980.htm?rsqid=54be3704664e4692b405936886f6e 3fc

This guy is the dreamer of all dreamers. I sold a '94 model of this bike in race trim a bit over a year ago for 3k and I bought it off the previous owner for 3K

So at what point does a sub 5K bike suddenly become a 13K bike??

I dunno, but I'll have some of what he's on thanks. :doobey:

Yep, already been shown!

[Coldrider]

Surely someone else has already posted this one: https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1557615980.htm?rsqid=54be3704664e4692b405936886f6e 3fc

This guy is the dreamer of all dreamers. I sold a '94 model of this bike in race trim a bit over a year ago for 3k and I bought it off the previous owner for 3K

So at what point does a sub 5K bike suddenly become a 13K bike??

I dunno, but I'll have some of what he's on thanks. :doobey:Trumps tarriffs against imported steel and aluminium in a indirect way are going to cause HD to go to the wall through EU tarriff retaliation, as 40% of HDs are exported. This will force domestic yanks to desire 400cc japanese domestic market used imports. Simple logic really. These 400cc bikes will become out of reach for the average kiwi, much like foreign demand for our housing. I assume the seller is actually a aussie bank economist.

[Banditbandit]

Trumps tarriffs against imported steel and aluminium in a indirect way are going to cause HD to go to the wall through EU tarriff retaliation, as 40% of HDs are exported. This will force domestic yanks to desire 400cc japanese domestic market used imports. Simple logic really. These 400cc bikes will become out of reach for the average kiwi, much like foreign demand for our housing. I assume the seller is actually a aussie bank economist.

The same applies to all US-built transport - cars, trucks, bikes ...

Does the USA produce enough of it's own steel to support al it's production?

The best I can find is this - which shows steel consumption exceeded production (meaning the US needs to import) until 2010 - when production increased. But it shows no consumption figures for 2010.

http://marketsize.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/IronSteel-300x260.jpg

[husaberg]

The same applies to all US-built transport - cars, trucks, bikes ...

Does the USA produce enough of it's own steel to support al it's production?

The best I can find is this - which shows steel consumption exceeded production (meaning the US needs to import) until 2010 - when production increased. But it shows no consumption figures for 2010.

.....
335596335597
nafta is North American free trade area
Maybe Trump has mates that own US steal mills that would be "GREAT" for them
I think the US have the capascity about 20% or so to match consumption to production as its the world steel price drives us Steel production.
335598
What Trump is attempting to do is create an artifically driven increase in Steel price within the US, That will allow the increase of US steel production.
I am sure that the trarifs will not effectively flow back to the users of the steel or that even if it does that it will balance the increase in raw materials cost that will effect the end users.
But if you own a steel mill in the USA, good times ahead..........

In the early days of the Reagan Administration, steel firms won substantial tax breaks in order to compete with imported goods. But instead of modernizing their mills, steel companies shifted capital out of steel and into more profitable areas


Two-thirds of the iron and steel produced in the US is made from recycled scrap, rather than from iron ore


Nucor is North America's largest recycler of any material and recycled 16.9 million tons of scrap in 2015. None of Nucor's facilities are unionized.

[WALRUS]

I mean... IS this (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/doncaster/motorcycles/collectable-honda-cb400nc36-motorbike/1175817529) really collectable..??

And is it $11k collectable..??

[kazadi]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1562084846.htm?rsqid=9cc3696c34b84146a1c50dce2d4c5 aee

[HenryDorsetCase]

I mean... IS this (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/doncaster/motorcycles/collectable-honda-cb400nc36-motorbike/1175817529) really collectable..??

And is it $11k collectable..??

Its cool as shit! but yeah nah.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Its cool as shit! but yeah nah.

Nah. This is cool as shit.

335600

[AllanB]

I mean... IS this (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/doncaster/motorcycles/collectable-honda-cb400nc36-motorbike/1175817529) really collectable..??

And is it $11k collectable..??


It's bloody nice. But - NO.

Shit any of the NZ importers will probably find you one.

Aussie had the 400/4 available a decade or so back.

[Drew]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1562084846.htm?rsqid=9cc3696c34b84146a1c50dce2d4c5 aee
That's the later shape model. Doesn't add up that the number badge only be in the 400's.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Nah. This is cool as shit.

335600

Oooooh errrrr missus. Any more info about that. (like what that DOHC motor is doing?). I really like those Kineo wheels too.
edit: found it:
https://rocket-garage.blogspot.com/2017/11/cb1100ex-motorcycle-hobby-or-passion.html

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oooooh errrrr missus. Any more info about that. (like what that DOHC motor is doing?). I really like those Kineo wheels too.
edit: found it:
https://rocket-garage.blogspot.com/2017/11/cb1100ex-motorcycle-hobby-or-passion.html

Cool eh! And I'm no Honda fan.

[pritch]

Surely someone else has already posted this one: https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1557615980.htm?rsqid=54be3704664e4692b405936886f6e 3fc

This guy is the dreamer of all dreamers. I sold a '94 model of this bike in race trim a bit over a year ago for 3k and I bought it off the previous owner for 3K

So at what point does a sub 5K bike suddenly become a 13K bike??

I dunno, but I'll have some of what he's on thanks. :doobey:

I went to have a nose and it says, "Withdrawn by the administrator"

[Banditbandit]

I mean... IS this (https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/doncaster/motorcycles/collectable-honda-cb400nc36-motorbike/1175817529) really collectable..??

And is it $11k collectable..??

maybe in 80 or 90 years ...

[pritch]

Remember John Lennon's monkey bike?

[AllanB]

Remember John Lennon's monkey bike?

The Beatles are overrated..........

[Drew]

The Beatles are overrated..........

You're fucking blocked cunt!

[F5 Dave]

Talentless skiffle band only slightly better than their latter individual efforts. Mind you Ringo Starr's work on Thomas the Tank engine was the stand out.
I was in the supermarket late one night when they played Silly love songs by Paulmcfartknee. I was cursing that Chapman chap "YOU SHOT THE WRONG ONE!!!"
Or maybe that he just stopped where he did.
I couldn't escape and was looking around desperately for some way to injure myself to make the pain stop.
fortunately there was a clean up in isle 6 or somesuch and I managed to abandon the vicinity before further aural damage occurrd.

[AllanB]

You're fucking blocked cunt!


Love love me Drew

See what I did there?

Hey, it's been a Hard Days Night and I give them credit for their space in time but they are like a 1950's motorcycle - fun to play with down Penny Lane on the first Sunday of the month.

The Revolution is over and the Yellow Submarine has sunk, but don't worry Here Comes the Sun, and life goes on. We could All Come Together and We Can Work it Out as we walk down The Long and Winding Road.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The Beatles are overrated..........

interesting: are you being pointlessly provocative or serious?

[ellipsis]

The Beatles are overrated..........

...sacrilege...mods, ban him...

[Voltaire]

Baby you can ride my monkey bike, and maybe I'll love you...

Jim Morrison had a bigger one...

https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/916x515/quality/95/http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/07/01-jim-morrison-scrambler.jpg
https://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/25/jim-morrisons-1968-honda-305-scrambler-was-found-on-craigslist/

[babysteps]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1504449538.htm?rsqid=1f98eb57eefd482dab5e9062fae52 0c3

Close the thread now, this one beats everything!

[Coldrider]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1504449538.htm?rsqid=1f98eb57eefd482dab5e9062fae52 0c3

Close the thread now, this one beats everything!
Yeah, the que will be dying to buy it, for dead sure.

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1504449538.htm?rsqid=1f98eb57eefd482dab5e9062fae52 0c3

Close the thread now, this one beats everything!

2015 BUILD SO IT GETS A 3 YEAR WOF
Yet if it was registered as pre 77 it would get 1/2 price rego plus a number of other benefits go figure aye:laugh:

[Voltaire]

I would not be seen dead on that.

( got a Kombi Single cab in mind)

[WALRUS]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1504449538.htm?rsqid=1f98eb57eefd482dab5e9062fae52 0c3

Close the thread now, this one beats everything!

What the actual fuck is that!?

Complete with some weird crown shaped thing on the tank (fuel cap??) to rip your heart out when you have a stack, and.. Are they sealed exhaust pipes..??

[pritch]

What the actual fuck is that!?



According to the rego it's a hearse. Currently nearly seventy people have it watchlisted. There's no accounting for taste.

[jellywrestler]

What the actual fuck is that!?

Complete with some weird crown shaped thing on the tank (fuel cap??) to rip your heart out when you have a stack, and.. Are they sealed exhaust pipes..??

that's someone who has artistic ability, balls and desire to do something different, not my cup of tea but it sounds like you want every motorcycle to be identical to yours.

and at least it's built instead of these endless run of plywood seats and exhaust wrap shitters that are somehow 'cool'

[WALRUS]

that's someone who has artistic ability, balls and desire to do something different, not my cup of tea but it sounds like you want every motorcycle to be identical to yours.

and at least it's built instead of these endless run of plywood seats and exhaust wrap shitters that are somehow 'cool'

Oh heavens no, I don't want everything to be like mine, how dull would that be??

I fully agree about all those "plywood seats and exhaust wrap shitters". They're all over the place here as well.

[FlangMasterJ]

Do you know what's really baffling? Cunts who put up a motorcycle listing but don't wash their bike beforehand. It's an automatic 'return to previous page' from this guy.

[F5 Dave]

Or bother to wheel it outside of the shitshack that its in to get a picture.

[Tofu]

Considering I got offered $200 for my bike and it has wof + reg... The starting price on this is insane

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1561225872

[ellipsis]

Considering I got offered $200 for my bike and it has wof + reg... The starting price on this is insane

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1561225872


...I dunno...a grand for a runner that may suit someones budget for a project...it' has to be worth more than 200 bucks...

[FlangMasterJ]

Or bother to wheel it outside of the shitshack that its in to get a picture.

Yeah it's like three pics from the exact same angle showing a sixth of the bike and half their hovel of a garage.

[Banditbandit]

Love love me Drew



"You know I love Drew ... "


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :banana:

[Banditbandit]

Considering I got offered $200 for my bike and it has wof + reg... The starting price on this is insane

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1561225872

bet he gets that or better ..

[Voltaire]

Some keen bidding going on. Go HDC:niceone:
Brings back mid 80's memories of my 500/4 .

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/743107722.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1564885850

Wasn't this on recently? Recall some moaning about mismatched speedo/tacho?

[WALRUS]

Anyone fancy a crash damaged NC30 for $7k?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1516956093.htm?rsqid=ffd7cf6f03864f58a4b018f8b98bd 22e

[Drew]

Considering I got offered $200 for my bike and it has wof + reg... The starting price on this is insane

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1561225872
I'd pay a grand for that all day long. Good buying I reckon.

Bit of work restoring the pipes, but it'd be worth it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Anyone fancy a crash damaged NC30 for $7k?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1516956093.htm?rsqid=ffd7cf6f03864f58a4b018f8b98bd 22e

Yeah but hang on...this is awesome!

"Fully serviced, comes with a free 1 month / 1,000 km warranty!!! "

Lol. Might as well not have a fucking warranty.

[Tofu]

I'd pay a grand for that all day long. Good buying I reckon.

Bit of work restoring the pipes, but it'd be worth it.

I guess if you're really into those bikes it would be, being a runner does bring the price up. I personally wouldn't want to spend more than 800-1k tho

[HenryDorsetCase]

Some keen bidding going on. Go HDC:niceone:
Brings back mid 80's memories of my 500/4 .

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/743107722.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1564885850

Wasn't this on recently? Recall some moaning about mismatched speedo/tacho?

I was playing ebay chicken with it trying to find out the reserve . Clearly i cant do maths because all of a sudden I might own it. Still, I would own it for five k and all I would do is tidy it up and go through it and ride it as is. Fuck the purists and restorers - it reminds me a LOT of a bike I owned in the early 80's when they were just old shitters. Having said that I reckon $5k is all its worth and its top fucking dollar at that. And I got rid of all my "bits" I was hoarding years ago. Including a nice set of clocks. Meh - I'll put a full Motec dash in it.....

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'd pay a grand for that all day long. Good buying I reckon.

Bit of work restoring the pipes, but it'd be worth it.

Agree. Its a complete money pit (DAMHIK) if you wanted a "correct" concours restoration, but as something to offend purists and restorers you couldnt go wrong. Parts are reasonably priced, easily available, and plentiful. And if you wanted to go down the custom route, you arent fucking up a really nice one. A lot of work still to get it regd and wof'd and on the road... but the price is righ.

[Voltaire]

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/743107722.jpg[/IMG]]I was playing ebay chicken with it trying to find out the reserve . Clearly i cant do maths because all of a sudden I might own it. Still, I would own it for five k and all I would do is tidy it up and go through it and ride it as is. Fuck the purists and restorers - it reminds me a LOT of a bike I owned in the early 80's when they were just old shitters. Having said that I reckon $5k is all its worth and its top fucking dollar at that. And I got rid of all my "bits" I was hoarding years ago. Including a nice set of clocks. Meh - I'll put a full Motec dash in it.....
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/743107722.jpg

" Purists and Restorers" are they the ones who think brown seats, exhaust wrap, cheap looking digital speedos, cut down guards are shit?

Despite owning vinyl, having had a beard till last week and knowing my IPA from Double IPA there are a lot of crimes being committed to old bikes.

( embedded pic to piss of the :tugger:Mods too :bleh:)

[F5 Dave]

Oh God! Look!
, he's got his mirrors rotated down.

Burn him.

[AllanB]

Oh God! Look!
, he's got his mirrors rotated down.

Burn him.

Mirrors - first thing to go in the box. No self respecting custom builder keeps stock mirrors.

[neels]

I was playing ebay chicken with it trying to find out the reserve . Clearly i cant do maths because all of a sudden I might own it. Still, I would own it for five k and all I would do is tidy it up and go through it and ride it as is. Fuck the purists and restorers - it reminds me a LOT of a bike I owned in the early 80's when they were just old shitters. Having said that I reckon $5k is all its worth and its top fucking dollar at that. And I got rid of all my "bits" I was hoarding years ago. Including a nice set of clocks. Meh - I'll put a full Motec dash in it.....
Now on my watchlist, to see if HDC is going to end up owning it.

You'd be doing ok to pick that up for $5k and tidy enough to just ride as a 'survivor', not everything needs a full restoration just because you can.

[Banditbandit]

Oh God! Look!
, he's got his mirrors rotated down.

Burn him.

Maybe he's short and can't see them at the standard height - have a mate like that ...

[F5 Dave]

Now on my watchlist, to see if HDC is going to end up owning it.

You'd be doing ok to pick that up for $5k and tidy enough to just ride as a 'survivor', not everything needs a full restoration just because you can.

This one.

Yeah as Jelly and Drew have said people can modify their bikes as they want. I'm certainly no rivet counter. I see no problem with period mods.

But it will always lower the price. And tasteless mods are just super ghey and a waste of a bike to make something unrideable when it could have been use useable or fit for resto.

[Voltaire]

This one.

Yeah as Jelly and Drew have said people can modify their bikes as they want. I'm certainly no rivet counter. I see no problem with period mods.

But it will always lower the price. And tasteless mods are just super ghey and a waste of a bike to make something unrideable when it could have been use useable or fit for resto.

Jelly's right :laugh:https://i2.wp.com/www.bike-urious.com/wp-content/uploads/Vintley-Right-Side.jpg?fit=864%2C544

[Crasherfromwayback]

people can modify their bikes as they want. I'm certainly no rivet counter. I see no problem with period mods.

But it will always lower the price. .

Yep. I'm gonna build my 1000 Katana how I want to. It's not good enough to want to resto, but has some cool period correct mods done to it already, so I'll just go from there. Couldn't care less what it'll be worth, as I just want a fun wheelie/skid bike that I like the look of and is fun to ride.

[AllanB]

Restos.

Meh - one in the manufacturers museum, a couple handful around the world for us mortals to look over.

Mod the rest to suit the owners.


Years back on a Honda site I frequented there was this 'Merican who very strongly believed that no paint could ever be as good as the factory stock paint. Any time someone would post up a picture of their custom or restored Honda he would come on wanking on about how the paint was not stock, thus not up to standard yada yada.

[Voltaire]

Restos.

Meh - one in the manufacturers museum, a couple handful around the world for us mortals to look over.

Mod the rest to suit the owners.


Years back on a Honda site I frequented there was this 'Merican who very strongly believed that no paint could ever be as good as the factory stock paint. Any time someone would post up a picture of their custom or restored Honda he would come on wanking on about how the paint was not stock, thus not up to standard yada yada.
The pained look I get at the Vintage Motorcycle Club from older codgers when my Norton roars into life with the press of a Lucas button makes modifying more fun. Led indicators add to that. Might put radials on next😱

[jellywrestler]

But it will always lower the price. . really? how much lower than a gs1000l do you think my chopper is worth compared to a stocker??

[Crasherfromwayback]

really? how much lower than a gs1000l do you think my chopper is worth compared to a stocker??

To be fair, that's a pretty special chopper mate!

[F5 Dave]

really? how much lower than a gs1000l do you think my chopper is worth compared to a stocker??

The L is the CX400 Custom of the GS range. Although maybe in Merica as the classic world rises maybe. .
OK a Magnum will still attract good value, but a brown seated exhaust wrapped delugged Z1 bobber will be a fraction of the original worth.

Actually maybe Voltys Vinnie is an improvement :msn-wink:

[jellywrestler]

Actually maybe Voltys Vinnie is an improvement :msn-wink: so what are the deficiencies of the vincent in standard form then? given that they were the only performance one litre bike made in that era?

[Grumph]

really? how much lower than a gs1000l do you think my chopper is worth compared to a stocker??

In world market terms your chopper is worth about the same as a very, very good 1000S - IMO.








The L is the CX400 Custom of the GS range. Although maybe in Merica as the classic world rises maybe. .
OK a Magnum will still attract good value, but a brown seated exhaust wrapped delugged Z1 bobber will be a fraction of the original worth.

Actually maybe Voltys Vinnie is an improvement :msn-wink:

No - the " T " is the CX Custom of the range - we didn't see a lot of them here thank christ. Useful for engine parts....
The " L " is the BMW wannabe of the range and actually better than you'd think....

Volty's Vinnie - Well I met Phil Irving back in the day and he'd just laugh and tell a funny story...Phil Vincent from what I heard would have had a coronary...

[HenryDorsetCase]

really? how much lower than a gs1000l do you think my chopper is worth compared to a stocker??

WWOP just saying

[Voltaire]

Not just any old Vincent Chopper.


Vintley – 1949 Vincent Rapide Chopper

In America, Austria, Cruiser by AbhiAugust 2, 20154 Comments
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Post-Sale Update: This Vincent Chopper sold for $27,000 after 29 bids on eBay.

Here’s a Harley-Davidson K model frame that’s been raked and stretched to fit a Vincent Rapide engine that had been to Lightning specs. That’s a sentence I never expected to write out before…

The short story is that the seller bought the engine and frame (which were already together, so he asks that you don’t blame him for this!) in 1974 after he discovered the Vincent marque through a neighbor. He finished the bike with parts from Harley, parts from BSA, and a Honda front wheel assembly, then had it chromed and painted Candy Apple Red. It won 1st place in the All Bike competition at the Sacramento Autorama, then the seller lost interest in choppers and it’s pretty much sat in his garage ever since. Since that time it has less than 100 miles and suffered one fall in storage which resulted in a broken clutch lever and mirror mount.

Vintley - Engine

The seller has all receipts from the work done about over 40 years ago, and he believes it’s time to move on. The question is, is someone going to buy it and try to bring it back to life as is, or is everyone who’s bidding just looking for access to the engine? Find the Vintley for sale in Shingle Springs, California with bidding up to $18,401 (what’s the going rate for a Rapide/Lightning engine that needs to be restored?) and the reserve not yet met here on eBay.

Nice Ducati one.

http://www.bikermetric.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/czech_ducati-chopper_chopperweb.cz_-620x330.jpg

[jellywrestler]

Not just any old Vincent Chopper.



Nice Ducati one.

http://www.bikermetric.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/czech_ducati-chopper_chopperweb.cz_-620x330.jpg

so why do people persist with those hideous tanks on top of the frame shit?, in the old days they could extend the forks, throw away the rear suspension with their arc welders, but they couldn't do tanks so the tank was an afterthought and often a little bikes one perched on top, and then it became how choppers are, hideous...
then there's the Cisco choppers, cisco bars, real narrow, and tanks high up as mentioned, these were useful in san francisco with narrow streets and big wide yank tanks everywhere, you width was much narrower than a stock bike and you could squeeze through the traffic.

[F5 Dave]

so what are the deficiencies of the vincent in standard form then? given that they were the only performance one litre bike made in that era?
I think we touched a nerve there? That is called 'bait Spyda.

[jellywrestler]

I think we touched a nerve there? That is called 'bait Spyda.

not at all takes more than that to get me, i brought a vincent to find out myself as i'd heard good and bad things, just interested in your pearly gems of wisdom about them....

[russd7]

yeah but look at this stunning beauty,
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1564176812.htm?rsqid=e07f745b981b48c38689b2155092f 321

[F5 Dave]

No, I think you bit.

I only know a tiny amount about them, largely folklore, and of course have never ridden one, but would love to if you were stupid enough to give me the keys. If you remember I came over to salivate over it when it was just about finished.

[jellywrestler]

No, I think you bit.

I only know a tiny amount about them, largely folklore, and of course have never ridden one, but would love to if you were stupid enough to give me the keys. If you remember I came over to salivate over it when it was just about finished.

always interested in others opinions, and to inform the ill-informed,( cheaper then doing it my way, mine cost me a years wages when i first brought it), like you now, it doesn't have keys...

[Voltaire]

speaking of Vincents, I'm have a clear out of book and magazines that I don't want.

The Vincent HRD story by Roy Harper, The First Vincent Scene, Vincent Vee Twins also by Roy Harper. ( thats why Led Zep took off their hat for him)

Make me an offer, $5 and a bag of chips will get them if either Cassina or Axley turn up in person to collect.

Bought them in the 80's when I was looking at buying a British bike.

Sadly I went on to own British bikes...... one that runs and two in bits, should move them on whilst there are some cashed up Baby Boomers with rose tinted glasses left.

[AllanB]

yeah but look at this stunning beauty,
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1564176812.htm?rsqid=e07f745b981b48c38689b2155092f 321


Hmmm there is potential there. Depending on many many things, mainly the engineering ability of the builder..

[Laava]

yeah but look at this stunning beauty,
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1564176812.htm?rsqid=e07f745b981b48c38689b2155092f 321

If you haggled that down to $1500 and then got the mill running, you could sell the mill seperately and prob still find a sucker to pay $1500 for the trike...

[F5 Dave]

I am deeply cynical of the engineering ability of the type of people that want to build such things. Especially the ones that fail to finish. You only have to look as far as the 180 tyre on 3" rim thread.

[AllanB]

I am deeply cynical of the engineering ability of the type of people that want to build such things. Especially the ones that fail to finish. You only have to look as far as the 180 tyre on 3" rim thread.


And the current fad for young men to stretch tyres on their cars - 175's on 8 inch rims, 195's on 10's etc. It gives me the shits when you can see the entire lip of the tyre exposed.

[pritch]

And the current fad for young men to stretch tyres on their cars - 175's on 8 inch rims, 195's on 10's etc. It gives me the shits when you can see the entire lip of the tyre exposed.

When I was a lot younger I used to go sideways at triple digit mph speeds, but I'd have been a worried boy doing that on those wheels.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And the current fad for young men to stretch tyres on their cars - 175's on 8 inch rims, 195's on 10's etc. It gives me the shits when you can see the entire lip of the tyre exposed.

Yeah I wouldn't give it a wof.

[jasonu]

Yeah I wouldn't give it a wof.

I doubt the owner of such a shitbox would give a fuck.

[AllanB]

Yeah I wouldn't give it a wof.

They have had to issue a wheel/tyre chart a few years back for WOF reference

[Crasherfromwayback]

I doubt the owner of such a shitbox would give a fuck.

Yeah no doubt. Even when he kills someone.


They have had to issue a wheel/tyre chart a few years back for WOF reference

Yep, but as a wof tester, you normally have discretion anyway. Bit like the whole car tyres on the rear of motorcycles that came up a few years back...

[T.W.R]

This isn't that outrageous price-wise but WTF is the blue about :facepalm: smurf fetish or something :facepalm:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1567787594.htm?rsqid=2a171669d2fd406c8a27b8bf12af5 554

[Crasherfromwayback]

This isn't that outrageous price-wise but WTF is the blue about :facepalm: smurf fetish or something :facepalm:

l]

Agree on both counts. Acid has a lot to answer for.

[Voltaire]

Get yer Pre Unit Triumph...only 35K, won't last long at this price, roll up roll up ( in Dick Van Dyke Cockney accent)

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/743815586.jpg

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1566157193.htm?rsqid=101e691d646f421ba974b680e443f a12

I'm no expert but should it not have a monobloc to be the worlds best Thunderbird?

[T.W.R]

Agree on both counts. Acid has a lot to answer for.

:laugh: mescaline used to be a popular thing in that part of the country years back :rolleyes:

[sidecar bob]

This isn't that outrageous price-wise but WTF is the blue about :facepalm: smurf fetish or something :facepalm:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1567787594.htm?rsqid=2a171669d2fd406c8a27b8bf12af5 554

Why do people always put the brake discs on backwards?

[Drew]

Why do people always put the brake discs on backwards?

Because it doesn't matter?

[jellywrestler]

Because it doesn't matter?

it may not, but you wonder what other shit goes on that does matter?

[Drew]

it may not, but you wonder what other shit goes on that does matter?

I'm just saying it to wind him up.

[ellipsis]

...take a break, have a kit kat...

https://www.facebook.com/CatfishCooley/videos/1694384297466402/

[sidecar bob]

I'm just saying it to wind him up.

Must try harder. ;)

[jasonu]

...take a break, have a kit kat...

https://www.facebook.com/CatfishCooley/videos/1694384297466402/

I'm gittin a Vulcan!!!!!

[F5 Dave]

What will you do with the Harley? Keep it for parades?

[T.W.R]

Why do people always put the brake discs on backwards?

He was probably high as a kite after doing that top spec paint job and got himself confused :facepalm: hasn't even bothered to take the weights off the rims just paint over them she'll be right :pinch:

[Laava]

Always amuses me what is in the "other" section!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1379734944.htm?rsqid=9ca6b34c79874cb890e2b3dbfb3cd 19b
This guy has been trying to sell this for a while, he wants too much money and can provide no specs. Runs low 12s all day, with a best of 11.1 at 110mph? The difference between low 12's and 11.1 is massive, unlikely to even be the same bike? Low 12's would certainly be handicapped by having a wheelie bar surely?

[AllanB]

Always amuses me what is in the "other" section!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1379734944.htm?rsqid=9ca6b34c79874cb890e2b3dbfb3cd 19b
This guy has been trying to sell this for a while, he wants too much money and can provide no specs. Runs low 12s all day, with a best of 11.1 at 110mph? The difference between low 12's and 11.1 is massive, unlikely to even be the same bike? Low 12's would certainly be handicapped by having a wheelie bar surely?


It's not doing that well in photo two. Are the wheelie bars too low? Look at photo two, which I assume is a start image and they are already on the ground with little front rise (rear won't squat as it has solid struts).

Side note - rear struts are pointless on a HD - the stock springs are equivalent :bleh:

[Laava]

aq
It's not doing that well in photo two. Are the wheelie bars too low? Look at photo two, which I assume is a start image and they are already on the ground with little front rise (rear won't squat as it has solid struts).

Side note - rear struts are pointless on a HD - the stock springs are equivalent :bleh:

Well, you just dont need wheelie bars to do low 12's, I know that cos that is what my v strom will do, all day long... fair go tho, it might have a bit more grunt than std but you need to be able to prove it one way or the other?

[jasonu]

What will you do with the Harley? Keep it for parades?

Air compressor.

[Banditbandit]

Get yer Pre Unit Triumph...only 35K, won't last long at this price, roll up roll up ( in Dick Van Dyke Cockney accent)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1566157193.htm?rsqid=101e691d646f421ba974b680e443f a12

I'm no expert but should it not have a monobloc to be the worlds best Thunderbird?


yeah - it should be a monobloc ... the ignition switch is wrong ..

It's very well done - but not $35K.

[jasonu]

https://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/d/1982-honda-cm450/6531228671.html

Hahahahaha

[F5 Dave]

That's very nice. You' have to be proud to turn up on that.

[jasonu]

That's very nice. You' have to be proud to turn up on that.

Mate I don’t think it is worth that even in NZ

[FlangMasterJ]

May be a little optimistic with the price but this thing is pretty sweet. :Punk:

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/adelaide-cbd/motorcycles/honda-z50j-fully-registered/1177878813

[EJK]

May be a little optimistic with the price but this thing is pretty sweet. :Punk:

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/adelaide-cbd/motorcycles/honda-z50j-fully-registered/1177878813

Neighborhood friendship destroyer...

[Pound]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1571999556.htm?rsqid=5f8b6adffeb847d0bc289c138dc21 a6e

A 2007 CBR for $12K?

Does it come with Marc Marquez??

[Crasherfromwayback]

I don't think so matey...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1572420210.htm?rsqid=a1e8991c94734e1ca3a6b7e633e2a 949

[Banditbandit]

That's very nice. You' have to be proud to turn up on that.

Yeah - I like it


Mate I don’t think it is worth that even in NZ

I'd happy pay the asking price for that ... (wife won't let me)



May be a little optimistic with the price but this thing is pretty sweet. :Punk:

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/adelaide-cbd/motorcycles/honda-z50j-fully-registered/1177878813



Yeah .. Naaa .. and the price is way optimistic

[Banditbandit]

I don't think so matey...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1572420210.htm?rsqid=a1e8991c94734e1ca3a6b7e633e2a 949

But it's nearly a classic I'n'it ???

[Crasherfromwayback]

But it's nearly a classic I'n'it ???

Nope. Great bikes an all, but no.

[WALRUS]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1571999556.htm?rsqid=5f8b6adffeb847d0bc289c138dc21 a6e

A 2007 CBR for $12K?

Does it come with Marc Marquez??

This one has popped up before, but last time they wearing the two piece Repsol suit hanging up in the back ground.. I can't remember if they had a Marquez lid or a Stoner lid but he/she seems to be a bit of a fan!

[jasonu]

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/adelaide-cbd/motorcycles/honda-z50j-fully-registered/1177878813[/url]

Compared to what?

[F5 Dave]

Yeah - I like it



Really? I'm losing track of who's being sarcastic, who's taking the Piss and who is recovering from a blow to the head. (I've mostly recovered from the last knock to the noggin, so I'm one of the first two. . I think. . )

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1571999556.htm?rsqid=5f8b6adffeb847d0bc289c138dc21 a6e

A 2007 CBR for $12K?

Does it come with Marc Marquez??

11 plus years on a bike with 2 tanks of gas per year. Pathetic.

[Madness]

11 plus years on a bike with 2 tanks of gas per year. Pathetic.

With matching one-piece leathers :laugh:

[F5 Dave]

I don't think so matey...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1572420210.htm?rsqid=a1e8991c94734e1ca3a6b7e633e2a 949

Good bikes, better than the GSXR, but you'll never get as much as one.
So a tidy up presumably in situ with a spray can on a 87,000km bike.

I'll coin a new K1w1 phrase.; Nah, Nah.
See what I did there? Feel free to use it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Good bikes, better than the GSXR, but you'll never get as much as one.
So a tidy up presumably in situ with a spray can on a 87,000km bike.

I'll coin a new K1w1 phrase.; Nah, Nah.
See what I did there? Feel free to use it.

Def. Fucking weird eh. An FZR1000T is a better bike than my old Slabby, but won't fetch anywhere near the same coin. I'd like another one (had two of them), or maybe a B model. Cheap as chips, and fucking great bikes.

[eelracing]

Def. Fucking weird eh. An FZR1000T is a better bike than my old Slabby, but won't fetch anywhere near the same coin.

WTF it what universe???Maybe better in a gay pride parade.
Gixxers owned the racetrack...FIZZZZZ'ed's owned Queen street.

[jellywrestler]

Good bikes, better than the GSXR, but you'll never get as much as one.
So a tidy up presumably in situ with a spray can on a 87,000km bike.

I'll coin a new K1w1 phrase.; Nah, Nah.
See what I did there? Feel free to use it.

maybe but the earlier half faired one is more desirable and the five valve head a milestone

[Crasherfromwayback]

WTF it what universe???Maybe better in a gay pride parade.
Gixxers owned the racetrack...FIZZZZZ'ed's owned Queen street.

Lol. Easy there Tiger! Having owned a few of both, I can assure you it's true. GSXR1100 is the better engine, FZR1000 by far the better chassis. What get's you round a race track faster?


maybe but the earlier half faired one is more desirable and the five valve head a milestone

Agreed. Had one as a shop bike for a while when I started at Brisbane Yamaha, was a fucking fantastic bike.

[eelracing]

Lol. Easy there Tiger! Having owned a few of both, I can assure you it's true. GSXR1100 is the better engine, FZR1000 by far the better chassis. What get's you round a race track faster?

Proof is in the pudding chap...which one do you own?
And the 5 valve head was a complex gimmick looking for another sucker.Always has been.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Proof is in the pudding chap...which one do you own?
And the 5 valve head was a complex gimmick looking for another sucker.Always has been.

LOl. Well, I've owned four GSXR1100's and two FZR1000T's. But purchased my current GSXR, as it's an appreciating bike I love to ride/own. No point if buying an FZR1000T for anything other than the enjoyment of the ride. Never gonna be worth much. The 5 valve head was all good at the time, but no need for more than 4 now. :innocent:

[Banditbandit]

Really? I'm losing track of who's being sarcastic, who's taking the Piss and who is recovering from a blow to the head. (I've mostly recovered from the last knock to the noggin, so I'm one of the first two. . I think. . )

None - I'm serious (yes, I can be all of the above - but no - this time I'm serious ...)

[Grumph]

maybe but the earlier half faired one is more desirable and the five valve head a milestone

As one who's tried to get power equivalent to the GSXR out of one, You've mis-spelled that. It's millstone....

Yamaha hung with it for too long cos they'd lose face if they dropped it. Was only when the M1 got some serious changes they felt comfortable going to 4V.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1573253742.htm?rsqid=02f3f944f4b04d2ca5af8ab77436e ccd

on what planet is this worth 12 grand?

[Crasherfromwayback]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1573253742.htm?rsqid=02f3f944f4b04d2ca5af8ab77436e ccd

on what planet is this worth 12 grand?

Planet 10 tabs of LSD a day.

[F5 Dave]

Fuck on what planet is that worth 2 grand?

[WALRUS]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1573253742.htm?rsqid=02f3f944f4b04d2ca5af8ab77436e ccd

on what planet is this worth 12 grand?

You're forgetting.. It's a "Special edition"!! Therefore, instant ten grand gains!

[Voltaire]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1573253742.htm?rsqid=02f3f944f4b04d2ca5af8ab77436e ccd

on what planet is this worth 12 grand?

Q and A are funny.

Other than the price, probably a good bike as in 21 months it will cost bugger all to register a year.

( OMG thats the year I started work, shouldn't I be retired then eh Mr Muldoon?)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Q and A are funny.

)

Yeah. Think he's trying to use it as a gay dating site.

[AllanB]

Yeah. Think he's trying to use it as a gay dating site.


Honda..............

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah. Think he's trying to use it as a gay dating site.

sweet, best I express an interest!

[F5 Dave]

Ask if he's up for a 3some. Ot maybe a 4some. I dunno, how many do you need for a circle?:scratch:

[ellipsis]

Ask if he's up for a 3some. Ot maybe a 4some. I dunno, how many do you need for a circle?:scratch:

...an infinite number of straight cunts...oops, I meant lines...

[AllanB]

Ask if he's up for a 3some. Ot maybe a 4some. I dunno, how many do you need for a circle?:scratch:


I'm thinking five. Four is really a square, five would be the minimum to form a circle.

[husaberg]

I'm thinking five. Four is really a square, five would be the minimum to form a circle.
Steve is the expert



And off we go on one more little KB circle jerk wankfest.

[T.W.R]

Other than the price, probably a good bike as in 21 months it will cost bugger all to register a year

Not that good, apart from all the obvious....checking the number plate she's had a dodgy past and had a dulux overhaul & re-registered in 2014 :facepalm: and should be two-tone paint (green & black) too.

[Voltaire]

Some keen bidding going on. Go HDC:niceone:
Brings back mid 80's memories of my 500/4 .

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/743107722.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1564885850

Wasn't this on recently? Recall some moaning about mismatched speedo/tacho?

So HDC is the new owner, brown seat and exhaust wrap?

[HenryDorsetCase]

So HDC is the new owner, brown seat and exhaust wrap?

Fuck... Meh - can't go wrong really. I love these old beasts. Its not a good time but at least I've got the coin to pay for it sitting there.

Definitely have to sell the GS550 and NC30 now - I need the storage room!

[Crasherfromwayback]

So HDC is the new owner, brown seat and exhaust wrap?


Fuck... Meh - can't go wrong really. I love these old beasts. Its not a good time but at least I've got the coin to pay for it sitting there.

Definitely have to sell the GS550 and NC30 now - I need the storage room!

You could make something pretty cool with that if you feel the need.

[Voltaire]

Other than a good going over, looks fine as is, there are already enough hacked #hipstermetoo's around.:lol:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Other than a good going over, looks fine as is, there are already enough hacked #hipstermetoo's around.:lol:

That much is true. When I see some of these hipster cunts with their waxed beards, I wish I had a can of enginestart and a lighter. Love to set fire to their fucking faces. On another note, you could do something with that bike those other assholes don't have the brains or taste to build. Or ride and enjoy as is as said.

[pritch]

The bike looks tidy but it does sorta conflict with his signature line?

[Voltaire]

That much is true. When I see some of these hipster cunts with their waxed beards, I wish I had a can of enginestart and a lighter. Love to set fire to their fucking faces. On another note, you could do something with that bike those other assholes don't have the brains or taste to build. Or ride and enjoy as is as said.

Yeah, before I shaved mine off was using avocado oil...keeps my IPA game so lit.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, before I shaved mine off was using avocado oil...keeps my IPA game so lit.

Girl juice is the only thing that should go in ones beard.

[HenryDorsetCase]

That much is true. When I see some of these hipster cunts with their waxed beards, I wish I had a can of enginestart and a lighter. Love to set fire to their fucking faces. On another note, you could do something with that bike those other assholes don't have the brains or taste to build. Or ride and enjoy as is as said.

definitely a rider. My plan is to get it running (assuming the compression and leakdown tests go OK) by fettling the crabs, airbox, and ignition (I hate points so will drop some coin on a Boyer or equivalent, then go through the cycle parts as needed. At the pace I work that should take most of the winter then next year ride it as is.

The only modded CB750s I like are the ones that are modded to look like CR750's, or ones done by Wrenchmonkees or some of the japanese outfits. I have come to really dislike "bratstyle" which is just an excuse for someone with no taste or fabrication skills to "customise" something that went OK before they got their hands on it.

Plus I love American Pickers and they're all about the patina.

[Grumph]

Plus I love American Pickers and they're all about the patina.

So am I. I've built a couple of pre 82's where the aim is to have them look like they've just come out of storage...
When some other old fart looks the bike over and says in a puzzled tone, "I don't remember this one, who rode it ?" I know I've succeeded.

Put a Dyna on it - and yes, cleaning out the crabs is a good idea. Kelford still have the old Yosh R & T grind. Mild but makes a hell of a difference.

[jasonu]

Plus I love American Pickers and they're all about the patina.

You only get original patina once.

[AllanB]

Now look HDC just because you are a good -c**t on KB, and given your purchasing and subsequent selling over the past year, how about you have it delivered to my place and I'll pay ya $3k now for ownership.

This will save the expense of buying goodies, then selling it for a bigger loss after your recollection of the glory days becomes reality.

Shit maybe I should offer $2.5 .....


Nice Honda, a lot of fun as is, or a most excellent canvas.


American Pickers rules.

[neels]

Fuck... Meh - can't go wrong really. I love these old beasts. Its not a good time but at least I've got the coin to pay for it sitting there.

Definitely have to sell the GS550 and NC30 now - I need the storage room!
Bugger, in the middle of a cashflow crisis, otherwise I'd be interested in the GS550. Just because, ya know, back in the day I remember.......

[WALRUS]

Saw this pop up on the ol' FaceBrick the other day on a local "Bikes for Sale" page.

335791

When you go through the photos, literally every panel is cracked, scraped, scratched, or damaged somehow (apparently from the "previous owner")... And it has high kms.. And the sidestand switch is apparently dodgy (if it is an easy fix, why haven't they done it??).. And there's no low beam...

But it has a $150 Musarri slip on and runs well xD

I'm pretty sure that these days, everybody is all about the 300's too much to give two shits about these old 250's any more

[Crasherfromwayback]

I've always wanted a Yellow TT500, but FFS man. Rotate your handle bars back will ya? How could you even ride a bike with them at this angle?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1576445317.htm?rsqid=9ddad9e5fb074ac699a3ec23366d3 9f7

[HenryDorsetCase]

Now look HDC just because you are a good -c**t on KB, and given your purchasing and subsequent selling over the past year, how about you have it delivered to my place and I'll pay ya $3k now for ownership.

This will save the expense of buying goodies, then selling it for a bigger loss after your recollection of the glory days becomes reality.

Shit maybe I should offer $2.5 .....


Nice Honda, a lot of fun as is, or a most excellent canvas.


American Pickers rules.

I might fucking have to because I have nowhere to store it presently.

[jasonu]

I've always wanted a Yellow TT500, but FFS man. Rotate your handle bars back will ya? How could you even ride a bike with them at this angle?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1576445317.htm?rsqid=9ddad9e5fb074ac699a3ec23366d3 9f7

Thats a lot of dosh for a wanna be TT500

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thats a lot of dosh for a wanna be TT500

Yep. More than I'd want to pay for a real one. But yellow is the colour for me on them. Never liked the orange ones.

[F5 Dave]

Sure didn't have those bars on my TT500. Orange ones look best. Mine was black white and brushed ally . It was a bit shit as a roadbike and too heavy for skinny 19yr old Dave anywhere near the dirt. Then I rode a mate's XR500 which anailated it.

I'd like an orange one in my dream garage but it would get moved on as I can't imagine wanting to ride it. You can only have so many bikes in your dining room.(I'm still dreaming where the wiff would think this was a good idea especially as we're super wealthy in that scenario. Heck she only put up with the RS125 in the bedroom for a couple of months).

[Crasherfromwayback]

You can only have so many bikes in your dining room..

I managed three at one stage, but two is a good fit. 335795

[jasonu]

Then I rode a mate's XR500 which anailated it.
.

https://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/d/1983-honda-xr500r-prolink/6516026762.html

Not my fav model XR but not a bad looking bike for not much money

[russd7]

I managed three at one stage, but two is a good fit. 335795

fark, really!!, you parked a kawasaki beside that ghastly lookin thing :argh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sure didn't have those bars on my TT500. Orange ones look best. ).

Here ya go then. And once again...those fucking handle bars! And pull ya fork boots up Laddy!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1576037111.htm?rsqid=1f384453206548fc93deb9dbe4ea9 50e

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1577479308.htm?rsqid=eff4b5291b8b4f12b63232e8820f6 ef3

I wonder if this is indicative of a trend? These used to be REALLY expensive. I remember one being sold a couple years back on tardme and the asking was north of $30k.

If you wanted one, thats the one to buy I would have thought (rigid mount motor, four speed trans, 34 hp and all!)

[Voltaire]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1577479308.htm?rsqid=eff4b5291b8b4f12b63232e8820f6 ef3

I wonder if this is indicative of a trend? These used to be REALLY expensive. I remember one being sold a couple years back on tardme and the asking was north of $30k.

If you wanted one, thats the one to buy I would have thought (rigid mount motor, four speed trans, 34 hp and all!)

I like that model Harley.

I've noticed it with cars.
Its a reflection on demographics, and rose tinted specs to a degree.
Neither of these are now more than weekend bling but people who remember Vintage Cars are now a minority.
Toyota HiAces will be the next Kombi....but with houses being expensive and having less space for stuff, and lack of interest who knows.

There are VW split screen Kombis on TM for over 90K
Having owned/wrecked a few back in the day, I would not want to drive one with a split no syncro first reduction hub trans and a very gutless ( no spares available) 36 HP motor. As Iconic as they are pretty horrible to drive....especially over 80k
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/744122097.jpg

I remember when Ford Model A's were going for big money.
At 27K its pretty good buying if your a Waltons Fan....night Mary Ellen.:rolleyes:
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/747121859.jpg

[Ocean1]

I've noticed it with cars.
Its a reflection on demographics, and rose tinted specs to a degree.
Neither of these are now more than weekend bling but people who remember Vintage Cars are now a minority.
Toyota HiAces will be the next Kombi....but with houses being expensive and having less space for stuff, and lack of interest who knows.

You're doing it wrong, trade up to a smaller house with a small industrial estate attached.

You can get way too "authentic" when it comes to vintage stuff, you forget how shit they originally were. And somehow "hotrods", like Harleys have devolved into a fashion fetish. A good old fashioned sleeper is always fun though.

I'm aiming somewhere in between.

[pritch]

A friend of mine, no longer with us, worked in engine reconditioning. More than once he mentioned that the vintage car and bike enthusiasts cheaped out their restorations. They didn't want the job done properly they wanted it cheap. No shortcut too short.

[Grumph]

A friend of mine, no longer with us, worked in engine reconditioning. More than once he mentioned that the vintage car and bike enthusiasts cheaped out their restorations. They didn't want the job done properly they wanted it cheap. No shortcut too short.

Some do. Depends if they want a rider/driver or a display item. What pisses me off is the absolute originality fetishist who searches the world for original parts when he could have a runner indistinguishable from oe with a bit of lateral thinking. Spyda will know who/what I mean, lol.

Some upgrades are absolutely necessary too. Did a BMW Isetta engine a while back. Roller bearing big end conversions are available now for them - basically the 250 bike big end and rod - and if you want an Isetta to run in modern traffic it's a must have. The OE plain bush cannae take it captain....

[Voltaire]

You're doing it wrong, trade up to a smaller house with a small industrial estate attached.

You can get way too "authentic" when it comes to vintage stuff, you forget how shit they originally were. And somehow "hotrods", like Harleys have devolved into a fashion fetish, but a good old fashioned sleeper is always fun.

I'm aiming somewhere in between.

I showed the Missus this one yesterday...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-1475806127.htm
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/743338792.jpg

I've got a 74 VW Singlecab thats been in the shed worked on for .....gasp 12 years. I was seeking perfection, now more a daily run around and someone else can seek perfection one day.
They are quite nice to drive, a world away from the previous model.
Its also taking up quality bike space.
Auburn Speedster looks nice, can I have a go mista? :innocent:

[Ocean1]

What pisses me off is the absolute originality fetishist who searches the world for original parts when he could have a runner indistinguishable from oe with a bit of lateral thinking.

Aye, the XK120 pistons were utter shite, so the old man's got MK3 Zephyr pistons. He never told anyone at the club, he'd have been blackballed. :laugh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

fark, really!!, you parked a kawasaki beside that ghastly lookin thing :argh:

YZ465's are actually great bikes!

[Ocean1]

I showed the Missus this one yesterday...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-1475806127.htm

Perfect. Bloody solid that house, too.


I've got a 74 VW Singlecab thats been in the shed worked on for .....gasp 12 years. I was seeking perfection, now more a daily run around and someone else can seek perfection one day.
They are quite nice to drive, a world away from the previous model.
Its also taking up quality bike space.
Auburn Speedster looks nice, can I have a go mista? :innocent:

Mine's still in bits. Mostly all there. And yes I'll try not to fall into the perfection trap.

The '35 was a V12 Lycoming, the '36 a blown straight eight, so I'm tossing up between a BMW/Merc V12 and a blown LS1.

[F5 Dave]

Even my painter is dropping hints that the Hiace is getting on a bit. (He's trying to shed projects so he can finish his own stuff). But I'll counter that it's the new Kombi so I 'must' keep it going. He's got a barn full of old brit rubbish so the emotional heartstrings will be playing. I hope. Still need wife's car, Stinger and RD400 I'm lining up after the van.
I'm a bad person.
. . . But he's a good craftsman (& a good mate) so needs must.

[Crasherfromwayback]

3K you say? I'll pass thanks.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1577606903.htm?rsqid=db5a55b5305f4297af15ddef8f3bc 6af

[T.W.R]

YZ465's are actually great bikes!

:niceone: Rocket Rex Staten knew how to make one mumbo :2thumbsup

[Intruder VS]

Just why and and what planet are they from!!!!!!!!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1577826171.htm?rsqid=6f4adae8965c4ce0b7de7c779c97e 0c1

[T.W.R]

I showed the Missus this one yesterday...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-1475806127.htm

You could spend half that amount and get this

https://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-1472167235.htm?rsqid=eb41e277e0654a65a00f8e377db50 79c

Actually looked at it myself but I've already 6200m that's doing my head in :pinch:

[Crasherfromwayback]

:niceone: Rocket Rex Staten knew how to make one mumbo :2thumbsup

And Marty Moates! Winng a USGP on a production bike ahead of all of the factory bikes.

[T.W.R]

And Marty Moates! Winng a USGP on a production bike ahead of all of the factory bikes.

True! But Staten & Hannah's OWs looked the shizz and Rex with his big angry face & mo were intimidating......actually I see he's still at it in VMX ;)

[Crasherfromwayback]

True! But Staten & Hannah's OWs looked the shizz and Rex with his big angry face & mo were intimidating......actually I see he's still at it in VMX ;)

And Rick Burgett's OW41 was one angry looking mutha of a bike! Check the size of that gorgeously crafted alloy tank. 500cc +40mm carb + long race = fucking big fuel tank. True Moto art I reckon!

335832

[T.W.R]

And Rick Burgett's OW41 was one angry looking mutha of a bike! Check the size of that gorgeously crafted alloy tank. 500cc +40mm carb + long race = fucking big fuel tank. True Moto art I reckon!


Definitely some kick arse rolling art! Those big beasts I'd still be inclined to drift towards that Maico 490 ;)

I remember when I was racing one of the local top guns did the most impressive run besides I've seen on a YZ :lol: bet Kerry Reeves still has nightmares of that day at Ogg's Farm :crazy:

[sidecar bob]

You could spend half that amount and get this

https://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-1472167235.htm?rsqid=eb41e277e0654a65a00f8e377db50 79c

Actually looked at it myself but I've already 6200m that's doing my head in :pinch:

The first rule of property, lactation, lactation, lactation. That's cheap & it always will be because it's in a shithole nobody cares about.
I'd rather spend twice as much on a place I can sell for twice what I paid for it later on.

[T.W.R]

The first rule of property, lactation, lactation, lactation. That's cheap & it always will be because it's in a shithole nobody cares about.
I'd rather spend twice as much on a place I can sell for twice what I paid for it later on.


Depends on what you're looking for and there's more to property than speculating on purchases; Rolling in being able to pay cash without the bank throwing a noose around your neck and being upto your eyeballs in debt nah thanks cash talks. There's plenty worse places in the Nth island with a higher population of degenerates to deal with too ;)

[jasonu]

The first rule of property, lactation, lactation, lactation. .

Yep.
I remember mentioning Cuzziecliff to you a few years ago. Wish I had taken my own advice now.

[Grumph]

The '35 was a V12 Lycoming, the '36 a blown straight eight, so I'm tossing up between a BMW/Merc V12 and a blown LS1.

Nice long twin rail chassis - plenty of room in there for batteries....

[Ocean1]

Nice long twin rail chassis - plenty of room in there for batteries....

Probably. But I'm not an electrician.

Besides, a design philosophy of gross overkill is just easier to implement with a big fuckoff V8.

[F5 Dave]

Just why and and what planet are they from!!!!!!!!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1577826171.htm?rsqid=6f4adae8965c4ce0b7de7c779c97e 0c1
I think that's cool and think it's
Worth double that and isn't an abortion of the fifth order.


Oops, sorry. Must have been channeling Drew. :eek5:

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think that's cool and think it's
Worth double that and isn't an abortion of the fifth order.


Oops, sorry. Must have been channeling Drew. :eek5:

Lol. Yeah, just when you thought you'd seen it all.

[OddDuck]

$11K for 30 km range?!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1577209584.htm?rsqid=f6ff6d7d0c8549afae48b91c2620c 24f

[Drew]

Oops, sorry. Must have been channeling Drew. :eek5:
The fuck are you on about? The glued together luggage boxes are clearly your work. Hope they hold together better than your cylinder heads did.

[Crasherfromwayback]

$11K for 30 km range?!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1577209584.htm?rsqid=f6ff6d7d0c8549afae48b91c2620c 24f

LOl. But it can do 100kph!!!

[russd7]

YZ465's are actually great bikes!

this I know, was meaning that ghastly lounge suite :lol: yes i had opertunity to play on a 465 back in the day, was a mates, then he went an bought a 490 but i still think the 465 was a quicker beast, especially on the fire breaks, shame i couldn't ride it like he could.

[F5 Dave]

The fuck are you on about? The glued together luggage boxes are clearly your work. Hope they hold together better than your cylinder heads did.
Hahaha.
yup I owned that one. ;)

[F5 Dave]

$11K for 30 km range?!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1577209584.htm?rsqid=f6ff6d7d0c8549afae48b91c2620c 24f
Up to 30km range
Up to 100kph

But not at the same time.

You'll have to go 30kph to get 30km. That's not a problem is it?:shutup:

[sidecar bob]

You're doing it wrong, trade up to a smaller house with a small industrial estate attached.

You can get way too "authentic" when it comes to vintage stuff, you forget how shit they originally were. And somehow "hotrods", like Harleys have devolved into a fashion fetish. A good old fashioned sleeper is always fun though.

I'm aiming somewhere in between.

Here's your engines, two for a dollar. I'll buy some bits you won't need to take the sting out of it. https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1578232636.htm?rsqid=ee0bf7d5ca84492aa5150d31073ff 993

[Laava]

Lol, a suicide shifter is just what this thing needs!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1576810616.htm?rsqid=919affb344484790a3dedc9f1ce28 0d2

[sidecar bob]

Depends on what you're looking for and there's more to property than speculating on purchases; Rolling in being able to pay cash without the bank throwing a noose around your neck and being upto your eyeballs in debt nah thanks cash talks. There's plenty worse places in the Nth island with a higher population of degenerates to deal with too ;)

But I can pay cash in nicer places:msn-wink:
It's not speculating, just inflation proofing.
If it's worth the same price in 5 years then it's actually devalued because inflation.

[T.W.R]

But I can pay cash in nicer places:msn-wink:
It's not speculating, just inflation proofing.
If it's worth the same price in 5 years then it's actually devalued because inflation.

True, but there's a lot out there that aren't in that position and get into a place & graft their arses off each week working for literally someone else ie: the bank. I'm glad I busted a gut yrs ago and off the grid now sub 50 :niceone:

[jasonu]

Lol. Yeah, just when you thought you'd seen it all.

Yep it is special...

[Voltaire]

I'm glad I went to night school, hung up my tools and overalls and work in an office.

Alas my spare cash seems to be going to the next generation to assist house purchases....thanks US Banking system for fucking up the world.

The next GFC can't be too far away....American Isolationist policies ...two large countries with nigh on

Dictators....sound familar?

[Ocean1]

Here's your engines, two for a dollar. I'll buy some bits you won't need to take the sting out of it. https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1578232636.htm?rsqid=ee0bf7d5ca84492aa5150d31073ff 993

I haven't got a dollar to spend right now mate, been buying houses and trying to be disciplined re toy spending. :laugh: Later in the year when I've optimistically sold a couple maybe.

[Ocean1]

I'm glad I went to night school, hung up my tools and overalls and work in an office.

Alas my spare cash seems to be going to the next generation to assist house purchases....thanks US Banking system for fucking up the world.

The next GFC can't be too far away....American Isolationist policies ...two large countries with nigh on

Dictators....sound familar?

You're pointing the "housing crisis" finger too far from home mate. The yanks had their own correction in response to their own wee socialist experiment, we won't see houses the price our parents paid until we remove all of the barriers to building them we've assembled since then.

[Voltaire]

You're pointing the "housing crisis" finger too far from home mate. The yanks had their own correction in response to their own wee socialist experiment, we won't see houses the price our parents paid until we remove all of the barriers to building them we've assembled since then.

I thought it was the GFC resulting in quantitive easing ( printing money) making money worth less, coupled up with the rising middle class in China sneaking money out and putting into assets ( read houses) and low interest rates spurred on by the Federal Reserve to kick start making America Great Again and so on.

We will never see house prices like 10 years ago ever again. My two hour drive from Shanghai Airport a few backs showed me what the future holds and its ugly tower blocks.

Lots of houses being built in Pokeno but FFS.....its probably 3-4 hours a day driving to pay for the frigging thing.


Hey HDC, another one to add to your Honda Collection.
Bit scabby but....
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1578162536.htm?rsqid=20e9947c551b4c88b6d8c2204e660 ea2
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/752047624.jpg

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1578162536.htm?rsqid=20e9947c551b4c88b6d8c2204e660 ea2

[ellipsis]

...Fuck, I thought that was my one...mine is a pretty much like that, maybe a little less rust and completely as it was when it was brand spanking...it's probably for the 'off', at some point soon...I'm kind of over old shit now that I'm just about classified as the same...

[Ocean1]

I thought it was the GFC resulting in quantitive easing ( printing money) making money worth less, coupled up with the rising middle class in China sneaking money out and putting into assets ( read houses) and low interest rates spurred on by the Federal Reserve to kick start making America Great Again and so on.

Probably. In America.


We will never see house prices like 10 years ago ever again. My two hour drive from Shanghai Airport a few backs showed me what the future holds and its ugly tower blocks.

Lots of houses being built in Pokeno but FFS.....its probably 3-4 hours a day driving to pay for the frigging thing.

So if we could build the house your parents did, same size, standards, etc etc what makes you think it would cost more now than it did then?

[Crasherfromwayback]

this I know, was meaning that ghastly lounge suite :lol: yes i had opertunity to play on a 465 back in the day, was a mates, then he went an bought a 490 but i still think the 465 was a quicker beast, .

Ahhh! Yeah, when we bought the apartment, it was previously owned by an out of town company, and used for a crash pad when they had peeps in Welly. So we offered them another 5k if they left everything behind, and they took the offer. Right down to cutlery and TV's etc. So I've put up with green leather every since. It's fucking lasted well mind you. I've been here for 18 years now. And yep, the 465 was a better bike than the 490. Four speed boxes suck, and the 490 used to vibrate, rattle and pink it's self to death!

[Voltaire]

So if we could build the house your parents did, same size, standards, etc etc what makes you think it would cost more now than it did then?

You mean the one they bought in Mt Albert for 1000 pounds in 1960, or the one they had built in 1977 that would probably sell for 1.2 mill now?

If your referring to the three small bedroom, ktichen, bathoom, toilet weatherboard, tin roof, single light and PPt in each room.....er no.

no exhaust wrap....dreamin'

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1578814829.htm?rsqid=dc4d7eff2bfd4e6cb424abcd2a444 81a

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/727084773.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/727084773.jpg

Thats about right at $4200 I would have said.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Old Mate is back. This time at 88k.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1578219107

[Banditbandit]

Thats about right at $4200 I would have said.

Yeah - I agree.

[Banditbandit]

Old Mate is back. This time at 88k.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1578219107

And Henry is right on the ball ..

[Crasherfromwayback]

And Henry is right on the ball ..

So am I when I referred to the knock to the head.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1577826171.htm?rsqid=767a701d8f9b4c839a54076f3850d 09d

Drugs are bad!

[WNJ]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1577826171.htm?rsqid=767a701d8f9b4c839a54076f3850d 09d

Drugs are bad!
They must be bad, you missed this 3 pages ago :facepalm:

[Ocean1]

If your referring to the three small bedroom, ktichen, bathoom, toilet weatherboard, tin roof, single light and PPt in each room.....er no.

But, that's the one that gets compared to today's unaffordable mcmansions.

The point is prices are no longer related to the cost of supply.

[HenryDorsetCase]

They must be bad, you missed this 3 pages ago :facepalm:

LOL yeah I did!

[Stylo]

And Henry is right on the ball ..

I'm not interested until it gets to the 100k mark.

He must be off his medication.

[pritch]

....thanks US Banking system for fucking up the world.

The next GFC can't be too far away....

After the GFC new rules for banks were introduced to prevent a repeat (Dodd Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act). Y'all will be thrilled to know that Trump is rolling Dodd Frank back as part of his deregulation programme. So the same fucking idiots are free to do the same ol' same ol' all over again.

[Ocean1]

So the same fucking idiots are free to do the same ol' same ol' all over again.

What, lend money to people that can't afford to repay it?

Or flog the toxic debt off to unsuspecting 3rd parties?

[pritch]

What, lend money to people that can't afford to repay it?

Or flog the toxic debt off to unsuspecting 3rd parties?

It's likely they'll try to do both 'cause a lot of people made a lot of money last time around and nobody was called to account. Obama said the banks were too big to fail so they got govt bail outs and then payed themselves big bouses.

[sidecar bob]

the 465 was a better bike than the 490. Four speed boxes suck, and the 490 used to vibrate, rattle and pink it's self to death!

That's interesting,
I spent a week in Brisbane in February helping a mate sort out a few bikes, including a YZ490.
I set the timing two degrees late & it was less of a bitch in general, although still a bitch.
We were pondering how things like that ever got made by 60kg Asians.

[Grumph]

That's interesting,
I spent a week in Brisbane in February helping a mate sort out a few bikes, including a YZ490.
I set the timing two degrees late & it was less of a bitch in general, although still a bitch.
We were pondering how things like that ever got made by 60kg Asians.

Americans wanted it - and thought they could sell it. The 465 is a better engine all round.

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's interesting,
I spent a week in Brisbane in February helping a mate sort out a few bikes, including a YZ490.
I set the timing two degrees late & it was less of a bitch in general, although still a bitch.
We were pondering how things like that ever got made by 60kg Asians.

I think they were made better with mods to the head, changing the squish and other things. Still a cunt of a thing. Only my opinion of course, but I think by the time they got to 500cc, an air cooled single had all manner of *issues* the liquid cooled bikes didn't. The air cooled KX500's were shit too, and the RM500 not much better.

[sidecar bob]

Ive seen a sidecar outfit with two cr500 engines in it. It wouldnt stay together from vibration.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ive seen a sidecar outfit with two cr500 engines in it. It wouldnt stay together from vibration.

Talking of sidecar engines...

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[Grumph]

I think they were made better with mods to the head, changing the squish and other things. Still a cunt of a thing. Only my opinion of course, but I think by the time they got to 500cc, an air cooled single had all manner of *issues* the liquid cooled bikes didn't. The air cooled KX500's were shit too, and the RM500 not much better.

You'd have thought Yamaha would have been wary of going bigger. They'd been there before with an air cooled 500 2T - what was it called ? The SC500 ?
That didn't end well either.

No idea what that is you've posted - but Drew needs to see that chain run, LOL.

[jasonu]

Ive seen a sidecar outfit with two cr500 engines in it. It wouldnt stay together from vibration.

Paul Dobbs used to ride a (insert Japanese 4 cyl road bike model here) 400 with a KX500 motor on F3. Same thing, it was always cracking frames with all the shaking.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Paul Dobbs used to ride a (insert Japanese 4 cyl road bike model here) 400 with a KX500 motor on F3. Same thing, it was always cracking frames with all the shaking.

Only really large air cooled 2 stroke I've ridden that was nice other than the 465 was my 83 CR480. That was a fucken great bike left side kickstart aside.

[F5 Dave]

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No idea what that is you've posted - but Drew needs to see that chain run, LOL.

Yeah, that's a bit special.
Wonder what happens if you accelerate?

[jasonu]

No idea what that is you've posted - but Drew needs to see that chain run, LOL.

Eh? By the time the rider sits on it the chain will be more or less in a straight line (on the top side) from cog to cog.

[Grumph]

Eh? By the time the rider sits on it the chain will be more or less in a straight line (on the top side) from cog to cog.

You obviously didn't follow his sidecar build which involved a short drive chain to a layshaft concentric with the swingarm pivot...
The complications of a driveline avoiding structural members got quite amusing for a while.

[Drew]

You obviously didn't follow his sidecar build which involved a short drive chain to a layshaft concentric with the swingarm pivot...
The complications of a driveline avoiding structural members got quite amusing for a while.

I found it entirely not amusing.

[F5 Dave]

Eh? By the time the rider sits on it the chain will be more or less in a straight line (on the top side) from cog to cog.

Have a look at the chain link just ahead of the frame. It's real high. That puppy will have to have Rossane Barr on it before the chain is straight.

[Crasherfromwayback]

That puppy will have to have Rossane Barr on it

That's also why it needs to be 700cc.

[HenryDorsetCase]

OK, so I'm not an engineer and CBF trawling through the sidecar build thread, but to pick up on the point about short chain runs and layshafts and what not, the only one I have seen lately is this one: its the Classified Moto XR650 Big Wheel.

Would it have problems with the short chain run and jackshaft to clear the wide rear?

I am interested in a non-technical explanation if one is available.....

I love this bike - the first bike I ever rode was an RV90 (fell off it two minutes later and have been hooked ever since....) so this BW really appeals to me.

https://www.classifiedmoto.com/motorcycles/bw650/

[Crasherfromwayback]

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I love this bike - the first bike I ever rode was an RV90 (fell off it two minutes later and have been hooked ever since....) so this BW really appeals to me.

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Cool bike until you slice your inner thigh open on the rear guard. And I own an RV90 FTW!!!