Optimistic sellers

[onearmedbandit]

and BremBO brakes, not some shitty off-brand.



It's a typo, the pic and LVTA plate shows Brembo.

[Grumph]

It's a typo, the pic and LVTA plate shows Brembo.


If you're asking that much for an odd hybrid which is neither Rg400 or 500, you'd at least proof read the bloody ad.

[F5 Dave]

To be fair, maybe he does have a rare set if Bremcos and it is LVTA's typo. Took them three attempts to still get the LVV plate almost right on my RG hybrid . Yes I do have one, but mine would kick that ones arse. And I'd never expect to get 32k.

[onearmedbandit]

Possibly, if only the manufacturer also made a typo on the actual caliper too.

[onearmedbandit]

If you're asking that much for an odd hybrid which is neither Rg400 or 500, you'd at least proof read the bloody ad.

No ones perfect, and if he hadn't made that typo we wouldn't have had half as much to discuss about the ad haha!

[HenryDorsetCase]

OK, so I have sort of decided that I might buy another sports bike. I want "the one that got away" back in the day - Honda RC-51 VTR1000 SP1 or SP2.

I remmebered The Bike Dealer had one and checked out his website.

He does still have his lady friend draped all over bikes as his banner. He doesnt have those pix on tardme any more. Its weird and anachronistic

Just so you know. He's sold all his RC-51's too.

[Grumph]

That's Costas isn't it ?

As a lawyer, you're well situated to deal with him.

The rest of us, not so much.

[onearmedbandit]

That's Costas isn't it ?

As a lawyer, you're well situated to deal with him.

The rest of us, not so much.

The guy from Christchurch? If so, no not him (I've known a couple people come away from dealing with Costas feeling the same way).

[HenryDorsetCase]

That's Costas isn't it ?

As a lawyer, you're well situated to deal with him.

The rest of us, not so much.

:D I bought my Ducati off of Costa a year or so back (actually 18 months... time flies). It was as advertised and as inspected. It was an interesting experience though. I responded to an ad for a bike at one price, emailed him and said I will take it, and when I want to pick it up the price had increased..... Oh, and as soon as I got it I spent some money on consumables that had been tickled but should have been replaced. Whatever I was pretty flush at the time.

But I do get where you're coming from.

The guy who had the RC-51s is this guy out of Wellington I think: https://thebikedealer.co.nz/


Costa is Motorcycle Imports Direct: https://www.motorcycleimportsdirect.co.nz/bikes-for-sale really the most offputting thing for me was the memes on his noticeboard comparing Jacinda to Hitler (yes, really, in public) and Radio Christian Fascists playing on an out of tune tranny* in the showroom. He had some cool old bikes too which I got the feeling were part of his collection and not really for sale given the prices - like old mate with the $40k Kawa H2.

*as in transistor radio, not,uh, the other kind.

[mulletman]

I went to his shop when he was in St Asaph St a few years ago, the guy is a wanker.

I was looking for a Speed Triple back then and he had the bike on the floor. I asked Costa if I could sit on it. Politely, as you do. He said 'only if you want to buy it ' in a threatening tone. Costa has been a germ on the scene for a couple of decades now.

Caveat Emptor. Stay away from this guy. I walked away too, bought a bike from somewhere else.

Same here...asked if me and the wife could sit on a Tiger he said the same thing...we got to sit on it with the steering locked :facepalm:

[dangerous]

really... milage is low but 65K? https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4627528396

[Laava]

really... milage is low but 65K? https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4627528396
He wants $90K for his other one!

[F5 Dave]

Owned for 20 years (2004ish so much after any hype). . Investor trying to cash out at peak market. Which was probably a year or two ago.

[husaberg]

A wire wheel From Taupo.... I thought he was banned from Trade Me as well

[mulletman]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/suzuki/listing/4628486437

"loaded with extras" Only usefull extra's are the Tank and Seat , 2016 not the best year for gearbox circlips a few broke and carnage followed they were changed for 2017 onwards. 8k tops

[actungbaby]

I went to his shop when he was in St Asaph St a few years ago, the guy is a wanker.

I was looking for a Speed Triple back then and he had the bike on the floor. I asked Costa if I could sit on it. Politely, as you do. He said 'only if you want to buy it ' in a threatening tone. Costa has been a germ on the scene for a couple of decades now.

Caveat Emptor. Stay away from this guy. I walked away too, bought a bike from somewhere else.Tommy's Yamaha used to be in that street .I remember dodgy bike dealer new brighton in 80s [emoji41]

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[Grumph]

Tommy's Yamaha used to be in that street .I remember dodgy bike dealer new brighton in 80s [emoji41]

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Neither Tommy's nor the two shops that have been in Brighton are in the same class as Costa. Tommy's staff would be obliging to make a sale. Yes, it would sometimes be overpriced but he was basically honest.
Pacific Motorcycles after the shift to Manchester st became dodgy cos of one person - working I believe on commission - who pre sold bikes which did not arrive.
Genuine sales through the shop were backed up properly.
Darcy Watson's shop existed only as a base for the race guys operating out of it. Stu Avant would occasionally sell someone a bike. Laid back beach side shop which I'd doubt ever made money.

Costa, I've dealt with when I was in the trade in ChCh. Always wanted something for nothing. Suspicious amounts of money in hand with no apparent income stream. If there was a repair to be done it was as cheap as possible. Then tell the customer they were new parts....

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/suzuki/listing/4628486437

"loaded with extras" Only usefull extra's are the Tank and Seat , 2016 not the best year for gearbox circlips a few broke and carnage followed they were changed for 2017 onwards. 8k tops
Wot a fukn dreamer of the top notch. I've had my eye on this market recently and he is so far off the mark it's sad, not funny.
Even the questions say as much.

[F5 Dave]

Oh jesus really?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4625578839


A mate bought one of those new. Went down south and it used as much oil as petrol.

Had broken ring from new.

But shitty bike. But why, non-existent dog why?

[F5 Dave]

Ok so here's how tardme can work

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4620001053

This is a $200 bike the most.

But huge bid.. . .

It's clearly shite. Sk. Is this a self bid on another email to try ramp up the non existent value? Or are people actually as stupid as to buy a CB200?

[F5 Dave]

Eere! I can see through it!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4639530216

But I suppose it's a 90s model. Ooh 99 even :rolleyes:

[Laava]

Eere! I can see through it!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4639530216

But I suppose it's a 90s model. Ooh 99 even :rolleyes:
Boring…plus that seat would be shit. No wonder the current owner has barely ridden it

[F5 Dave]

Imagine, spending a bunch of money then just giving up motorcycles as they haven't really improved, in fact they are a bit shitter than you remember.

When for the same money you could have bought a clapped out CB500X or ER650, ridden around for thousands of kms and realised how fun bikes are nowadays, . . . then only to realise those were just the crappy starters.

[dangerous]

Eere! I can see through it!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4639530216

But I suppose it's a 90s model. Ooh 99 even :rolleyes:

ohhhh, thats just fucked... and try 78


now... ya gota watch the video... it is kinda cool, but its not ever going to be road worthy...https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4642697998

[HenryDorsetCase]

Eere! I can see through it!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4639530216

But I suppose it's a 90s model. Ooh 99 even :rolleyes:

It could be worse. It could be this fucking thing:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4642697998

[Laava]

ohhhh, thats just fucked... and try 78


now... ya gota watch the video... it is kinda cool, but its not ever going to be road worthy...https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4642697998
That is actually quite cool. I got a good laugh out of it! Be a shoe in for the DGR!

[F5 Dave]

Oh gawd the video was self righteous bullshit for the ten or fifteen seconds I could endure it. Yes you can wire up leds on a switch. No it is not some pioneer cutting edge technology from a bygone Era.:tugger:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Riddle me this: Why do these cost so much?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/ducati/listing/4644991377

As far as I can tell it is the same air cooled 1000cc powertrain as used in other contemporary models, and it has model specific wheels and tank and maybe instruments.

I do not understand. Maybe if Paul Smart had signed it, or ridden it or something....

What don't I get, Ducati afficionados?

[pritch]

Riddle me this: Why do these cost so much?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/ducati/listing/4644991377

As far as I can tell it is the same air cooled 1000cc powertrain as used in other contemporary models, and it has model specific wheels and tank and maybe instruments.

I do not understand. Maybe if Paul Smart had signed it, or ridden it or something....

What don't I get, Ducati afficionados?

They came out at the same time as the Paul Smart if I recall. I seem to remember a road tester whinging about comfort. That's a lot of money to pay to make yourself miserable.

He starts it up and the noisiest thing is the clutch. Would anybody accept that crap from a Japanese manufacturer?

[Grumph]

As regards the Paul Smart replicas, the unsigned ones are the rare ones. When Smart was last here in NZ, the model had been out for about 18 months.
Nearly every owner of one made the trek to Puke to get theirs signed.

Guy local to me went and told me how many were there. When I pointed out the scarcity value of an unsigned one he went away to think it through.
Haven't seen the bike since so don't know what conclusion he came to.

Ducati have mastered the marketing of "limited edition" "collectors model" motorcycles. Function is irrelevant.

[Berries]

What don't I get, Ducati afficionados?
I think that bike looks great and was contemplating one when they came out. Problem for me was no Ducati dealer within easy range of Dunedin for when it might need some attention. The last two new bikes I bought (KTM and Suzuki) both developed a sudden fault that made them unrideable and needing to be picked up by the dealer. Didn't fancy the risk with a Ducati but shit, ditch that exhaust and I cannot think of many better looking bikes than that, and thankfully not in red.

I'd be willing to go to something like $7.5 for that.

[F5 Dave]

Timeless classic ducati.

Um? Or replica of a GT. That's like calling a Zephyr a Timeless classic.

[Laava]

That's like calling a Zephyr a Timeless classic.
Those people exist.

[pete376403]

Timeless classic ducati.

Um? Or replica of a GT. That's like calling a Zephyr a Timeless classic.

Mark 1, 2 or 3, yeah. Not so much the Mark 4. Unless it's a Zodiac

[HenryDorsetCase]

Mark 1, 2 or 3, yeah. Not so much the Mark 4. Unless it's a Zodiac

Mark 3 Zephyr. They were everywhere. And then they were not.

Also: Mark 2 Zephyrs were the bogan car of choice when I was a teen. Now, not so much.

edit: Fucksakes now I want this https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/ford/falcon/listing/4615475471

edit 2. Fuck me how cool is THIS? https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/ford/cortina/listing/4647725873

[F5 Dave]

My Dad had a Zodiac. I think. Somebody did.

But we digress. I was of course talking about motorcycles, hence the Kawasaki kind of emulating Z900s. Kinda.

Not some putt putt car.

[F5 Dave]

Mark 3 Zephyr. They were everywhere. And then they were not.

Also: Mark 2 Zephyrs were the bogan car of choice when I was a teen. Now, not so much.

edit: Fucksakes now I want this https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/ford/falcon/listing/4615475471

edit 2. Fuck me how cool is THIS? https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/ford/cortina/listing/4647725873

Can you imagine how miserable they would be to drive? That scrapes the border of my experience. Cars of that era were Dreadful. Bikes just pissed on them by a much larger margin than now.
You'd bump your way along slowly with dramatic crucial gear changes thinking; gee I hope I look a lot cooler than I feel..

Yeah. You're remembering how that felt aren't you?

Saved you some money.

For hookers and blow obviously.

[Kickaha]

Also: Mark 2 Zephyrs were the bogan car of choice when I was a teen. Now, not so much.



I paid $300 for one for my first car and then turned it into a Street Stock and wrecked it at Woodford Glen, that was 3 weeks wages back in 1980

[jellywrestler]

I paid $300 for one for my first car and then turned it into a Street Stock and wrecked it at Woodford Glen, that was 3 weeks wages back in 1980

geez what were you doing, my first paycheque was $126 for a fortnight, $189 for three weeks?

[timg]

geez what were you doing, my first paycheque was $126 for a fortnight, $189 for three weeks?
Gigolo for the ugly and desperate :eek:

[jellywrestler]

Gigolo for the ugly and desperate :eek:

so you'd be able to post one of his receipts for verification then?

[timg]

:sick: :bleh: :laugh:
so you'd be able to post one of his receipts for verification then?

[HenryDorsetCase]

I paid $300 for one for my first car and then turned it into a Street Stock and wrecked it at Woodford Glen, that was 3 weeks wages back in 1980LOL we were on the same money!

[neels]

edit: Fucksakes now I want this https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/ford/falcon/listing/4615475471

Do you really though? Only 2/3 the engine it should have, one of those horrid underpowered models the poms liked to build.

[pete376403]

Fuck me how cool is THIS? https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/ford/cortina/listing/4647725873

Kite brothers of Napier used to cut down quite a few cars into utes. Regularly featured in NZ Hot Rod magazine. Imaging the certification hurdles that would have to be jumped now.

[pritch]

edit: Fucksakes now I want this https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/ford/falcon/listing/4615475471

Where that says cheap to run, it means gutless.


edit 2. Fuck me how cool is THIS? https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/ford/cortina/listing/4647725873

Now I'm starting to worry about you.

[neels]

Probably not too optimistic in terms of price, but maybe qualifies for this thread with the obligatory exhaust wrap, and hasn't escaped the seemingly overwhelming desire some people have to chop bits off.

Would it need the seat changed and bar ends to pass a wof?

354579

[Stylo]

Probably not too optimistic in terms of price, but maybe qualifies for this thread with the obligatory exhaust wrap, and hasn't escaped the seemingly overwhelming desire some people have to chop bits off.

Would it need the seat changed and bar ends to pass a wof?

354579

What does wrapping your exhaust pipes do to the bikes performance?

I must have missed something ....

[dangerous]

I paid $300 for one for my first car and then turned it into a Street Stock and wrecked it at Woodford Glen, that was 3 weeks wages back in 1980

$400... and it had been a street stock at WG... $91 a week



Mark 3 Zephyr. They were everywhere. And then they were not.

Also: Mark 2 Zephyrs were the bogan car of choice when I was a teen. Now, not so much.

edit: Fucksakes now I want this https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/ford/falcon/listing/4615475471

edit 2. Fuck me how cool is THIS? https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/ford/cortina/listing/4647725873

WTF MAN... 4 pots belong in jap bikes, all cars shuld have 6 and only a real bike has 2

fuck me 22k... not that longa ago I raced one for shits n giggles... https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4652551055

[F5 Dave]

Probably not too optimistic in terms of price, but maybe qualifies for this thread with the obligatory exhaust wrap, and hasn't escaped the seemingly overwhelming desire some people have to chop bits off.

Would it need the seat changed and bar ends to pass a wof?

354579
Oh lordy check the Kobe exhaust <_<. A mate had one but thats not it unless it has a new sprocket. His was just bumps and he tightened the chain more.

Oh wait that's the even more dreadful 250. I guess I might have to own up to having had one. Was a lot more standard and had a cycle works pipe

[pete376403]

Oh lordy check the Kobe exhaust <_<. A mate had one but thats not it unless it has a new sprocket. His was just bumps and he tightened the chain more.

Oh wait that's the even more dreadful 250. I guess I might have to own up to having had one. Was a lot more standard and had a cycle works pipe

Kobe sounds Japanese and exotic. Coby is a lot closer to home https://www.cobyexhausts.co.nz/product/839-1-1-2-id-3-diameter-10-long-resonator

[F5 Dave]

Meh, I never owned a vw so i never leant how to spell it. Actually I'm only on my 2nd car (both had std exhaust). They obviously shouldn't go on bikes.

[actungbaby]

Ok so here's how tardme can work

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4620001053

This is a $200 bike the most.

But huge bid.. . .

It's clearly shite. Sk. Is this a self bid on another email to try ramp up the non existent value? Or are people actually as stupid as to buy a CB200?It's arwfull been butchered
And de registered I be embarrassed list it.

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[dangerous]

It's arwfull been butchered
And de registered I be embarrassed list it.

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fark me... sold for 1200

[F5 Dave]

And that's how tardme can operate. A bloody CB200 for fuck sake! Yawn city.

[speedpro]

A mate had a few of the CB twins around that size. Always fun thrashing to the pub and back. I had a CB200 when in Perth. Well modified and lots of fun. $200 tops and then only if I was doin up another bike and needed parts

[jellywrestler]

RRP $4000, now who would be their advisor on that????????

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/frames/listing/4650015762

[rastuscat]

RRP $4000, now who would be their advisor on that????????

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/frames/listing/4650015762

Closed without selling.

SURPRISE !!!

[Berries]

Only because my wife never saw it. We have two double garages full of that shit.

[F5 Dave]

Do any of them go? Looks like they would handle like they were OnRailsTM.

[dangerous]

rrp $4000, now who would be their advisor on that????????

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/frames/listing/4650015762

ohhh go get fucked...

[jellywrestler]

not optimistic, but entertaining, Webbs auction description says will be sold with spare parts including mudguard and tyre, looking thought the piccies i reckon the office girl simply had no idea of what the other parts were!


https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/m/lot-details/index/catalog/689/lot/209187/1929-AJS-M6-350cc-Project-NO-RESERVE?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F689%3Futm_source%3Dmeta% 26utm_medium%3Dsocial%26utm_campaign%3DHigh%2Bend% 2BAudience%2B-%2BCars%2BLive%2B689%2B%25E2%2580%2593%2BHighlight s%2BCarousel%2B-%2BAuto_Placements%2B-%2BFC_no%2B-%2BTOF%2B-%2BN%252FA%2B%25E2%2580%2593%2BCopy%26utm_content% 3DCars%2BHighlights%253A%2BMotorbikes%2BTOF%26utm_ id%3D120207727907870006%26utm_term%3D1202077279081 60006%26fbclid%3DIwAR1pwYfaLQHc-zj97bUzu-qHxUn7-JC-d6e7xn4Zvl-pkq2qCW2yGhR3amo_aem_AVUE99caSUFZ_PbloHcOKVEFZcn6e eE7n9jder44HHKVitfZ5BtY38c_X6BhHgJThCnQKLBEdcQFhfg EeZIyXj-j

[Grumph]

Looking at that webbs catalogue, one expected price stood out as very optimistic.
The Maserrari - built by G Macrae. The 260M Zephyr single seater went recently down here for about 1/10 of the expected price of this.
A car with a better history and ready to race vs something with little recent history and needing recommissioning.

I suspect they're equating the Macrae name with added value.

Not a bike but IMO wildly optimistic.

[F5 Dave]

not optimistic, but entertaining, Webbs auction description says will be sold with spare parts including mudguard and tyre, looking thought the piccies i reckon the office girl simply had no idea of what the other parts were!


https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/m/lot-details/index/catalog/689/lot/209187/1929-AJS-M6-350cc-Project-NO-RESERVE?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F689%3Futm_source%3Dmeta% 26utm_medium%3Dsocial%26utm_campaign%3DHigh%2Bend% 2BAudience%2B-%2BCars%2BLive%2B689%2B%25E2%2580%2593%2BHighlight s%2BCarousel%2B-%2BAuto_Placements%2B-%2BFC_no%2B-%2BTOF%2B-%2BN%252FA%2B%25E2%2580%2593%2BCopy%26utm_content% 3DCars%2BHighlights%253A%2BMotorbikes%2BTOF%26utm_ id%3D120207727907870006%26utm_term%3D1202077279081 60006%26fbclid%3DIwAR1pwYfaLQHc-zj97bUzu-qHxUn7-JC-d6e7xn4Zvl-pkq2qCW2yGhR3amo_aem_AVUE99caSUFZ_PbloHcOKVEFZcn6e eE7n9jder44HHKVitfZ5BtY38c_X6BhHgJThCnQKLBEdcQFhfg EeZIyXj-j

Nah that could have been me. Not being a dick but I have a pretty good knowledge of motorcycles to poke holes in various books I read.

But that is way out of my knowledge base. How many people working in the area, and I mean still working doing that sort of stuff, would know what they are looking at?
I'd be reaching for the closest Google description.

[Kickaha]

Looking at that webbs catalogue,

I did and I want this

https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/m/lot-details/index/catalog/689/lot/209141/1955-BMW-R50-with-sidecar-by-Steib-500cc?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F689

[HenryDorsetCase]

I want this. I love them.

https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/m/lot-details/index/catalog/689/lot/208523/1950-Studebaker-Champion?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F689

[dangerous]

I want this. I love them.

https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/m/lot-details/index/catalog/689/lot/208523/1950-Studebaker-Champion?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F689

weirdo... looks like the wizards VW, has no idea which way its ent to go...

[husaberg]

I want this. I love them.

https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/m/lot-details/index/catalog/689/lot/208523/1950-Studebaker-Champion?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F689

https://www.carvibz.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/1951-Studebaker-Pickup-Bertha-Great-8-Winner-2022-Detroit-Autorama-World-Of-Wheels-Cavalcade-Of-Cool-YouTube-1-34.jpeg

fond memories of Happy ?Days the The bullet front end emblem is all I would like.

https://youtu.be/cGzl33g-vr4

[Grumph]

I did and I want this

https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/m/lot-details/index/catalog/689/lot/209141/1955-BMW-R50-with-sidecar-by-Steib-500cc?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F689

I'd like to know it's history. Years back - 1970's - a mate of Russell Gillard had that exact combo.
It went on most of the road trials held then.
Haven't seen the outfit or the owner for decades.
How many of them could there be in NZ ?

[jellywrestler]

Looking at that webbs catalogue, one expected price stood out as very optimistic.
The Maserrari - built by G Macrae. The 260M Zephyr single seater went recently down here for about 1/10 of the expected price of this.
A car with a better history and ready to race vs something with little recent history and needing recommissioning.

I suspect they're equating the Macrae name with added value.

Not a bike but IMO wildly optimistic.

the first couple of auctions went, Tom Sturgess of nelson classic bike museum, and another were locking horns and paying silly money, i don't think they sold a single bike in the last bike only auction, a mate paid to have his bikes shipped from timaru, and back, plus more too. he was not happy about it all,

[jellywrestler]

Nah that could have been me. Not being a dick but I have a pretty good knowledge of motorcycles to poke holes in various books I read.

But that is way out of my knowledge base. How many people working in the area, and I mean still working doing that sort of stuff, would know what they are looking at?
I'd be reaching for the closest Google description.

When you're playing with that stuff, and selling stuff on heritage, desireablility you'd expect them to have learned 'advisors' or 'consultants. I just found it odd.

[F5 Dave]

Oh yeah, it is odd, but I think indicative of an aging (retiring experts) workforce, and indeed buyer base.

[jellywrestler]

Oh yeah, it is odd, but I think indicative of an aging (retiring experts) workforce, and indeed buyer base.

retired experts are better, keen on rolling their sleeves up for a short job, pliable with wine maybe? The buyer base is shifting, a few years ago VMX bikes were of a value to people that had one when they were young had to sell, or dreamed of one, now they have chance to go back and relive that, those guys are too old to ride by and large so the next wave just wants a tool to have fun on, doesn't have to be a 1980 XYZ or the first of the prolinks that they dreamed of, and when they dont need to be so picky the market is wider, and cheaper in the end.

[pete376403]

Or there will be those who don't really care much what it is, other than what they can sell it for in a few years will be a good return on what they initially paid for it plus how much they paid to have it restored.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah but the point he is making is amplified by VMX scenario where people have to bail from riding as dirt is punishing to 65 Yr olds and MX earlier.
But Croz will fail to find a Market for top end restoration Z900 very soon as they are big and heavy for a 74yr old.

Younger blokes want a GSXR anyway, so the Z will fall in value.

Ooh, the GSXR stretch makes the bones ache a bit. . .

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah but the point he is making is amplified by VMX scenario where people have to bail from riding as dirt is punishing to 65 Yr olds and MX earlier.
But Croz will fail to find a Market for top end restoration Z900 very soon as they are big and heavy for a 74yr old.

Younger blokes want a GSXR anyway, so the Z will fall in value.

Ooh, the GSXR stretch makes the bones ache a bit. . .

Its already happened with Brit bikes.

Plus you can buy a brand new "BSA" or Triumph these days.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4669213391


The $6500 RV90. Complete fucking dreamer. I have a soft spot for them - first motorbike I ever rode. 30 seconds later, first motorbike I ever fell off.

[Berries]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4669213391


The $6500 RV90. Complete fucking dreamer. I have a soft spot for them - first motorbike I ever rode. 30 seconds later, first motorbike I ever fell off.
Love the questions.

[F5 Dave]

It's like the Larson cartoon. "School for the gifted". [Pulling on door marked PUSH].

[jellywrestler]

Love the questions.

interesting the unanswered questions being visible, not seen that before

[husaberg]

I gave one of those away about a year ago.....
It was even road registered at one stage.

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah it's odd, some auctions do and some don't.

[F5 Dave]

TM moderators probably had enough larfs so ran with it.

[F5 Dave]

Move quickly!

Closes Monday. Reserve not met but could be close. Your chance to own an icon that nobody really has heard of, but that's not important right now (I wanted one of these as a mate had one when I was 16).

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/4662490882
Probably could use a wipe over with a rag to bring it back to sparkly condition .:confused:

[neels]

Move quickly!

Closes Monday. Reserve not met but could be close. Your chance to own an icon that nobody really has heard of, but that's not important right now (I wanted one of these as a mate had one when I was 16).

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/4662490882
Probably could use a wipe over with a rag to bring it back to sparkly condition .:confused:
I would buy one of them, just because it's a 440 and nobody else ever made one, I'm odd like that which explains why there's also been a CB360 and XS360 in my past. Wonder what the Honda equivalent is?

Anyway, worth more than absolutely nothing with rego on hold, but looks like another listing that has one zero too many.

[Grumph]

I would buy one of them, just because it's a 440 and nobody else ever made one, I'm odd like that which explains why there's also been a CB360 and XS360 in my past. Wonder what the Honda equivalent is?

Anyway, worth more than absolutely nothing with rego on hold, but looks like another listing that has one zero too many.

Honda did the 450 plus the real equivalent would be the crappy 400 twin. Which they made even worse with an automatic version.

The Kawa 440 is the direct ancestor of the EX/GPZ500. Same bottom end layout as i found when developing the 500's for F3
But yes, way overpriced even though not a lot came here.

[F5 Dave]

And it's all there. But all in need of restoration. Or replacing, like the tank.

[F5 Dave]

Oh fuk off. It's not even in pristine condition and you want $25k for it?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4652495187

As justification he try to claim they are an investment as Lloyd's suggests only a bit less?!? Not negotiable. Yeah? Well I know of a $40k Mack IV on tradeMe so I think it will sell just as quickly.

Oddly in the photos he has several more bikes. Is he trying to cheap out on listing them, despite wanting moon beams?? Showing off? One of them is an actual Good condition TT500, a later model like I had, but in attractive orange.

But they weren't the Game changer. The XR was. And even then, only compared to other 4 strokes. In competition the 250 2 strokes roasted them, let alone the 490s etc.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Oh fuk off. It's not even in pristine condition and you want $25k for it?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4652495187

As justification he try to claim they are an investment as Lloyd's suggests only a bit less?!? Not negotiable. Yeah? Well I know of a $40k Mack IV on tradeMe so I think it will sell just as quickly.

Oddly in the photos he has several more bikes. Is he trying to cheap out on listing them, despite wanting moon beams?? Showing off? One of them is an actual Good condition TT500, a later model like I had, but in attractive orange.

But they weren't the Game changer. The XR was. And even then, only compared to other 4 strokes. In competition the 250 2 strokes roasted them, let alone the 490s etc.

Dealer, so there's that. This strikes me as cool and not bad buying. You'd have to want one of course, same as the TT500. I rode a mates XT500 back in the day when I had my TS125. It was a bit different from the TS.... https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/mitsubishi/l200/listing/4680861139


edit: also, this Yamaha 500 is only $7500! https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4656049629

[F5 Dave]

Erm first link is to a generic mazda ute. Is there something you want to tell us?

I rode to a mates to show off my tuff TT500. He had just bought an XR500. Had a ride on the road. My TT was pretty average in comparison.
Bear in mind at 18 or 19 on suburban roads these were beasts.

Then I took my TT on the motorway. Something I rarely did then. Hmm. Actually a bit anemic. Low gearing made them awesome in suberbia.

Oh alright. Here's my favourite TT500 story . Bought it on a Sunday. Went to show it off at young lass place. Stayed to watch the Sunday Horrors. Which were a thing back then. No offer, (or chance really) of staying the night.

Rode off in a blaze of glory. Just down the hill. Bububa. Changed to reserve. Erm, What the?

TT just has On/Off. Competition bike.

Kawharahara (sp) so miles from anywhere. Footpath is gravel by railway. Push to next gas station.

Which is close on a Sunday night

Finally arrive at CBD Shell on the Quay.

Can barely talk.

Kick, kick, kick. Wait. Gas gets through and finally away.

[Laava]

Jeez, I'm exhausted just reading that!

[husaberg]

Dealer, so there's that. This strikes me as cool and not bad buying. You'd have to want one of course, same as the TT500. I rode a mates XT500 back in the day when I had my TS125. It was a bit different from the TS.... https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/mitsubishi/l200/listing/4680861139


edit: also, this Yamaha 500 is only $7500! https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4656049629


Erm first link is to a generic mazda ute. Is there something you want to tell us?

y.

this is the one he intended to link
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4652495187

[F5 Dave]

this is the one he intended to link
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4652495187
But that's the one I originally linked?!?
I think not.

[roogazza]

But that's the one I originally linked?!?
I think not.

cheers rode them when new , if i wanted one ...... 5 grand tops , so I guess I wouldn't get one lol.

[husaberg]

But that's the one I originally linked?!?
I think not.
Have a gander at his other listings.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/search?member_listing=377430

[wetanz]

I want this. I love them.

https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/m/lot-details/index/catalog/689/lot/208523/1950-Studebaker-Champion?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F689

mmmm ... 2 door bomber - had one as a teenager in the 70s - high kool factor, even then - drove a 55 E Series Studdie pickup for years - never forgive the family for giving it away while i was living offshore, mf's ( i drove an AMC Eagle, 4wd, while living in BC - supakool)

[dangerous]

why the fuck would you want one... let alone 4 at 7Khttps://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/4686607846

[FLUB]

Have a gander at his other listings.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/search?member_listing=377430

How are these private listings? Sell 6 or more in a year and you have to sign up as a Registered Motor Vehicle Trader.

[F5 Dave]

why the fuck would you want one... let alone 4 at 7k?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/4686607846

Fixed link. Yeah not that appealing. I helped move a mate's affliction of them some years back when he shifted city. Feck they are heavvvy.

Ended up at the tip a couple of years later I believe. Where they belong. Although the scrappy would disagree. . .

[pete376403]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/4686607846

Fixed link. Yeah not that appealing. I helped move a mate's affliction of them some years back when he shifted city. Feck they are heavvvy.

Ended up at the tip a couple of years later I believe. Where they belong. Although the scrappy would disagree. . .
Are they the ones where the gear shift lever is also the kickstarter, when (IIRC) pushed in to disengage the gear selector and then swung back ?

[roogazza]

Are they the ones where the gear shift lever is also the kickstarter, when (IIRC) pushed in to disengage the gear selector and then swung back ?

That's the one ! A mate had a 350 the 60' s when we were riding YDS3 Yamahas ! He defied gravity and achieved amazing lean angles on the thing.

[F5 Dave]

Used to race with Peter Palmer from Palmy area when we raced Ohakea.

No idea re operation of the horrible things. Not much chance they were still operational, even though they were in good condition.

[rambaldi]

How are these private listings? Sell 6 or more in a year and you have to sign up as a Registered Motor Vehicle Trader.

They are in this thread, how many do you actually think they sell?

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectables/other/listing/4688239074

Not sure if this is "optimistic" or not. I think it is but he is absolutely correct in that it is very rare, it is a first press, and it is a piece of a very important slice of NZ music history.

It shows that the most expensive record I ever bought (a week or so back - Gordons 2nd LP, original press from 81 cover VG/vinyl EX) for $300) was a bargain.

The most expensive 7" I have personally bought was only $150.

It does strike me though that all these things are valuable only to a certain subset of people and that "collector value" will decline as the audience ages and dies.

Anyway: your record collection from your teen years might be worth money, i smy point. If you still have it.

[FLUB]

They are in this thread, how many do you actually think they sell?10 vehicles listed at the moment including cars, a ute and a van. That's a lot and should raise a flag.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

10 vehicles listed at the moment including cars, a ute and a van. That's a lot and should raise a flag.

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either vote with your feet or dob them in.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300887044/government-ministry-takes-aim-at-unlicensed-facebook-car-dealers#:~:text=Individuals%20are%20only%20allowed %20to,the%20Motor%20Vehicle%20Sales%20Act.&text=The%20maximum%20fine%20is%20%2450%2C000,and%2 0%24200%2C000%20for%20a%20company.

https://www.mbie.govt.nz/about/news/unregistered-motor-vehicle-trader-convicted-and-fined/

Less bleating, more doing!

[FLUB]

either vote with your feet or dob them in.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300887044/government-ministry-takes-aim-at-unlicensed-facebook-car-dealers#:~:text=Individuals%20are%20only%20allowed %20to,the%20Motor%20Vehicle%20Sales%20Act.&text=The%20maximum%20fine%20is%20%2450%2C000,and%2 0%24200%2C000%20for%20a%20company.

https://www.mbie.govt.nz/about/news/unregistered-motor-vehicle-trader-convicted-and-fined/

Less bleating, more doing!I've already reported it.

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[neels]

Not sure if this is "optimistic" or not. I think it is but he is absolutely correct in that it is very rare, it is a first press, and it is a piece of a very important slice of NZ music history.

It shows that the most expensive record I ever bought (a week or so back - Gordons 2nd LP, original press from 81 cover VG/vinyl EX) for $300) was a bargain.

It's optimistic until someone pays the asking price, then it just becomes the price.

Sadly I'm old enough to remember The Gordons posters stuck about town, think I still have have the future shock EP tucked away somewhere.

354657



Anyway: your record collection from your teen years might be worth money, i smy point. If you still have it.

Still have it, however much of it is described by the significant other as 'that shit', so it's value is probably debatable.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's optimistic until someone pays the asking price, then it just becomes the price.

Sadly I'm old enough to remember The Gordons posters stuck about town, think I still have have the future shock EP tucked away somewhere.

354657




Still have it, however much of it is described by the significant other as 'that shit', so it's value is probably debatable. I have had to say to SWMBO "don't just chuck these records in the dumpster when I go, some of them are worth decent money".

If you have that poster in good condition I will give you $200 for it. When you walk into my house the first thing you will see is a Gordons gig poster I stole back in the day, stored for years and had framed. I would love another deep sea diver poster.

John Halvorsen released a solo album last year under the name "Vorsen". It is cheerful, quiet and upbeat like the best Gordons work was. Fun fact - the first Gordons LP was re-released last year [edit: 2021] on Flying Nun and came with the Future Shock EP. https://www.flyingnun.co.nz/products/the-gordons-the-gordons-19812021-reissue?_pos=1&_sid=80517c3ad&_ss=r - I actually bought one so my OG '81 copy doesnt get any more worn - though it is in VGC.



My ears are still ringing from Gordons shows at the Gladstone and Hilly in the early 80's. :)

[neels]

If you have that poster in good condition I will give you $200 for it. When you walk into my house the first thing you will see is a Gordons gig poster I stole back in the day, stored for years and had framed. I would love another deep sea diver poster.

Sadly don't have the poster, found the pic on the interwebs of the one I remember being stuck on walls, there were smaller ones that were on lamp posts. Have to make do with a framed talking with the taxman about poetry tea towel instead.

I spotted a gordons poster among the images of christchurch past on the interactive picture wall thingy at the new library place, so somebody considers it to be historically relevant.

[Racing Dave]

My ears are still ringing from Gordons shows at the Gladstone and Hilly in the early 80's. :)

I second the motion! By far the loudest band playing in a pub (also at the Gladstone) that I have ever heard.

[F5 Dave]

A mate had the silhouette of the 3 unclad wimin in DMs on the wall (Blamx3) as well as some Gordon's stuff. Original stuff back then.

Had a search and what I found was not the same picture but close.

Had a GPz900. Many years since.

[Laava]

Tastefully customised. The back end looks like it has been dipped in the sea.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/4684548789

[F5 Dave]

Indeed it does.

Um, what exactly has been customised?
I mean apart from the drain pipe held on with a Rusty clamp?

[Grumph]

I'd like to see the left hand side.

If it goes for that price it may be a bargain.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I wanted to start my question with "Prior to it's life as an aquarium ornament, did it go down the road on its left side......" but I thought that was a bit smart arse.

[F5 Dave]

Thought that, Well he said it hadn't been dropped.

Maybe it was pushed?

Or Thrown. :msn-wink:

[Oakie]

Move quickly!

Closes Monday. Reserve not met but could be close. Your chance to own an icon that nobody really has heard of, but that's not important right now (I wanted one of these as a mate had one when I was 16).

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/4662490882
Probably could use a wipe over with a rag to bring it back to sparkly condition .:confused:

I had it's slightly smaller brother - the Z400C ... the only bike I've ever bought brand new. Nice wee bike and I paid $1999 for it back in about 1980? I'd only pay that much for it again today though ... certainly not close to $10k!

[dangerous]

Its got me fucked how these things sell for $6 let alone 6K... do people actually like building these shit heaps... fuck me so many questions but... BUT heres the big one...
How on gods earth do they get a WOF... a girl i know was just failed on her R3 all original apart from clutch n brake leavers as she put after market on so as her wee hands could operate them safely...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/custom-built/listing/4699940547

[jellywrestler]

Its got me fucked how these things sell for $6 let alone 6K... do people actually like building these shit heaps... fuck me so many questions but... BUT heres the big one...
How on gods earth do they get a WOF... a girl i know was just failed on her R3 all original apart from clutch n brake leavers as she put after market on so as her wee hands could operate them safely...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/custom-built/listing/4699940547

in short it looks like a recently fucked bum

[F5 Dave]

He's powder coated the rims and from quick inspection new spokes etc. Oddly I quite like them. Just not on that.
Spoilt by hubs.

Why do people let their bikes rust like that and then think its some sort of badge of honour? Just bloody lazy.

[HenryDorsetCase]

He's powder coated the rims and from quick inspection new spokes etc. Oddly I quite like them. Just not on that.
Spoilt by hubs.

Why do people let their bikes rust like that and then think its some sort of badge of honour? Just bloody lazy.

the coolest pushbike wheels I ever built were red rims, stainless spokes and black hubs with whitewall tyres. Had the frame powdercoated and it was frickin cool. Sold it because I needed to thin the herd and never rode it.

[dangerous]

the coolest pushbike wheels I ever built were red rims, stainless spokes and black hubs with whitewall tyres. Had the frame powdercoated and it was frickin cool. Sold it because I needed to thin the herd and never rode it. WOW you can reember back to the 50s as a 10yr old...




Why do people let their bikes rust like that and then think its some sort of badge of honour? Just bloody lazy.

rust... what about the corrosion on the engine, makes me wonder what the inside looks like... must a sat out side in the weather for years.




in short it looks like a recently fucked bum

SHIT MAN... what sorta bums do you fuck...

[dangerous]

https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2008-buell-1125cr-my09/OAG-AD-22759731/?Cr=13
yeahhhh na... thats more than they were new, then ya have to replace stators RRs etc... do like it in red tho, but hell even ours which is a one of a kind be lucky to get 8k for (attached)

[Drew]

Its got me fucked how these things sell for $6 let alone 6K... do people actually like building these shit heaps... fuck me so many questions but... BUT heres the big one...
How on gods earth do they get a WOF... a girl i know was just failed on her R3 all original apart from clutch n brake leavers as she put after market on so as her wee hands could operate them safely...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/custom-built/listing/4699940547
Ooof, good grief.
That's pretty terrible.

[dangerous]

I never ever thought id see the day... shit i sold 3 and a spear engine to WT for $400 years back... honestly as cool as they are... but dodgy as and imposable to get parts, ya couldent use it as a regular ride... ARE YA READY...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/search?sort_order=expirydesc.

[onearmedbandit]

I never ever thought id see the day... shit i sold 3 and a spear engine to WT for $400 years back... honestly as cool as they are... but dodgy as and imposable to get parts, ya couldent use it as a regular ride... ARE YA READY...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/search?sort_order=expirydesc.

Your link is just to the classic section, not a specific bike. Or is this a guessing game?

[husaberg]

the way he's ranting suggests its the plastic maggots

[pete376403]

the way he's ranting suggests its the plastic maggots

Or the MVX250 @ $12K

[Grumph]

Two BMW K1's there. Did not know there were that many in NZ.

But yeah, he'll be ranting about the MVX. Can't get over selling his before the price went up.

[F5 Dave]

Strangely the page lists a group of quite reasonably priced classics OK condition. I'd like that 87 RM250 for no particular reason.

Searches for MVX as I know what he was getting at. Yup, there it is.

Leggings and shoulder pads?
Well I'm wearing them Ironically.

[Kickaha]

I never ever thought id see the day... shit i sold 3 and a spear engine to WT for $400 years back... I had one of those in my shed for a bit waiting to get picked up for him, cast iron barrels in that era, what a heap of shit

[F5 Dave]

It wasn't the Era's fault. Only honda could use iron in the 80s. Heck my 78 mb was ally.

Sawyers up here when we passed by on the school bus, had about 17 mvx lined up outside.
Buy a bike, get an mvx as well. Here. Take 3 or 4. Please.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Or the MVX250 @ $12K
My guess too:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4702343266

Price is negotiable yer man says.


I want this - well not really. But I had literally never heard of it before so it must be worth...... something. Sometimes when I have insomnia I try and think of motorcycle brands starting with every letter of the alphabet. I used to get stuck on "U" - no more.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/4704812016

Jesus: please text as I am unable to speak is hardcore. Poor bastard.

[pete376403]

My guess too:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4702343266

Price is negotiable yer man says.


I want this - well not really. But I had literally never heard of it before so it must be worth...... something. Sometimes when I have insomnia I try and think of motorcycle brands starting with every letter of the alphabet. I used to get stuck on "U" - no more .

You had never heard of Ural before? Which is what this looks like.

[Grumph]

Don't know about only 2 in NZ. Went with the old man and my brother to look at a pre-war Universal in ChCh in the 1950's.
JAP ohv V twin apparently made under licence in a fairly rugged rigid frame with girders.
Last I heard it's in someone's collection. Bro didn't buy it as the vendor wanted too much and wouldn't haggle.

[dangerous]

Your link is just to the classic section, not a specific bike. Or is this a guessing game?

FFS try this then cooza https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4702343266



I had one of those in my shed for a bit waiting to get picked up for him, cast iron barrels in that era, what a heap of shit

very miss under stood bike, sort the timeing and fueling and away you goooooooooooo


"full compresion" well it will have when fill of water or siezed LMFAO. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4705883215

[pete376403]

"full compresion" well it will have when fill of water or siezed LMFAO. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4705883215

Is that sprocket nut welded on?

[jellywrestler]

is that sprocket nut welded on?

blue tack/smurf shit i think

[pete376403]

blue tack/smurf shit i think

Mmmm dunno - zoom in on the pic and cant see any part of a hexagon of a nut, though

[F5 Dave]

Oh they came from the factory like that I'm sure, or it is a period modification, very fashionable.

I think this used to be Neptune's bike.

[husaberg]

Oh they came from the factory like that I'm sure, or it is a period modification, very fashionable.

I think this used to be Neptune's bike.
Nah Neptune had a Trident.

[F5 Dave]

Ooh. Damit!:brick:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Here's your next project - thousand bucks!

Plus it has a lap record round the Puna, AND runs on menthols!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/4707301659

WCGW?

[F5 Dave]

I would. . , but it doesn't have upside down forks. [ ​TM skidmark]

[husaberg]

Here's your next project - thousand bucks!

Plus it has a lap record round the Puna, AND runs on menthols!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/4707301659

WCGW?
Funny enough the bike that cleaned up the pre 89 class at the GMSR was a vfr750.
I am no expert but what he has looks more like a VF750.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/22/4f/f7/224ff7bd7a6a2fd1cbb59eeaef946351.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

Funny enough the bike that cleaned up the pre 89 class at the GMSR was a vfr750.
I am no expert but what he has looks more like a VF750.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/22/4f/f7/224ff7bd7a6a2fd1cbb59eeaef946351.jpg

Absolutely it is. I actually had one and it went really well. Objectively a better bike than my 83 GPz750 as it was shorter in the wheelbase, quicker handling and (marginally) lighter. It FELT lighter to ride because it changed direction quicker. There are some cool custom ones too where people have turned them into reps of the racebikes or resto modded them with modern forks and wheels and brakes. They got a reputation for having camshafts made of chocolate causing engine failures but Honda fixed that fairly early in production - my theory is any still running will continue to run forever. The reputational damage was done so they went to the VFR soon after (86?). But Freddie Spencer raced a VF750F in the states and did OK on it. Its my desktop wallpaper at the mo.

[Grumph]

From an engine builder/tuners point of view the VF is much easier to tune. With bolt on sprockets on the cams it's easy to change the timing or install bigger/longer cams. The VFR gear drive pretty much sticks you with what Honda thought was best. Which isn't.
Both families of engines need crank massaging to make them reliable.
And they're a porky engine too.

[F5 Dave]

We got unloaded a bunch of 700s from the US. Tarrifs on 750s upwards to try prop up their shitty home market offerings. Pah. Like that would sway a buyer not wanting a boat anchor. Ohh I'd never considered a wobbly cruiser throwback, but wait, the gummermint throws a grand or whatever on the price of a GSXR.
Well let's buy me a HD Sprotster :yawn:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Funny enough the bike that cleaned up the pre 89 class at the GMSR was a vfr750.
I am no expert but what he has looks more like a VF750.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/22/4f/f7/224ff7bd7a6a2fd1cbb59eeaef946351.jpg

I like the cowl over the passenger seat, but it bothers me that the stripe is wrong. It should continue the red stripe along and over.

[roogazza]

From an engine builder/tuners point of view the VF is much easier to tune. With bolt on sprockets on the cams it's easy to change the timing or install bigger/longer cams. The VFR gear drive pretty much sticks you with what Honda thought was best. Which isn't.
Both families of engines need crank massaging to make them reliable.
And they're a porky engine too.

Cheers Grumph, this has reminded me when a mate won a NZ 6 hour in about 83 ? (memory?)
You'll probably know Bill the Biber ???? lol. From memory the front running teams all had problems,either jumping off or mechnicals ??? Still a win for Bill xxx :msn-wink:

[Grumph]

Cheers Grumph, this has reminded me when a mate won a NZ 6 hour in about 83 ? (memory?)
You'll probably know Bill the Biber ???? lol. From memory the front running teams all had problems,either jumping off or mechnicals ??? Still a win for Bill xxx :msn-wink:

Haven't seen Bill down here for a while. He'd descended to racing someone's classic Velo, probably getting more fun from upsetting the Velo clan than riding.
Steve Bryan has the 6 hour winning BMW in his collection.

[husaberg]

I like the cowl over the passenger seat, but it bothers me that the stripe is wrong. It should continue the red stripe along and over.
You're right the cowl it's a little amiss, The Rothmans colours, like the pepsi for the Suzukis or the red and white for the Yamahas are some of the more memorable colour schemes.
I like the front guard on the VF750 its shared with the CBX750F, IMO one of the prettiest front Guards ever made in the period with RWU forks.
I read something that the first VFR750's were all made at a loss to fix Hondas engineering reputation.

[jellywrestler]

Cheers Grumph, this has reminded me when a mate won a NZ 6 hour in about 83 ? (memory?)
You'll probably know Bill the Biber ???? lol. From memory the front running teams all had problems,either jumping off or mechnicals ??? Still a win for Bill xxx :msn-wink:

he had a co rider

[husaberg]

he had a co rider
He did, Phil Payne I am trying to remember what his business was called Dr Desmo?


1983: Bill Biber and Phil Payne – Honda VF750F

He had one of the first VEE Two Alchemy kits.

1974: Ginger Molloy (solo) – Kawasaki Z1-A
1975: Graeme Crosby (solo) – Kawasaki Z1-B
1976: Graeme Crosby (solo) – Kawasaki Z1000
1977: Graeme Crosby and Tony Hatton – Kawasaki Z1000
1978: Dave Hiscock and Neil Chivas – Suzuki GS1000EN
1979: Dave Hiscock and Neil Chivas – Suzuki GSX1100ET
1980: Dave Hiscock and Neil Chivas – Suzuki GSX1100T (Black Pipe)
1981: Malcolm Campbell and Mick Cole – Honda CB1100R
1982: Dave Hiscock and Neville Hiscock – Suzuki GSX1100SXZ Katana
1983: Bill Biber and Phil Payne – Honda VF750F
1984: Alan DeLatour and Dave Martin – Honda VF1000F
1985: Dave Hiscock and Neil Chivas – Suzuki GSX-R750F
1986: Aaron Slight and Rob Doran – Yamaha FZ750
1987: Aaron Slight and Wayne Clark – Yamaha FZR1000
1988: Tony Rees and Dave Hicks – Yamaha FZR1000

[roogazza]

Cheers husaberg, thanks for posting list of 6 hour winners. I only rode in two and pit crewed for WMCC as well. 83' was the last one I went to !
Packed up and went to Aussie some time after....<_<

[jellywrestler]

He did, Phil Payne I am trying to remember what his business was called Dr Desmo?


1983: Bill Biber and Phil Payne – Honda VF750F

He had one of the first VEE Two Alchemy kits.

1974: Ginger Molloy (solo) – Kawasaki Z1-A
1975: Graeme Crosby (solo) – Kawasaki Z1-B
1976: Graeme Crosby (solo) – Kawasaki Z1000
1977: Graeme Crosby and Tony Hatton – Kawasaki Z1000
1978: Dave Hiscock and Neil Chivas – Suzuki GS1000EN
1979: Dave Hiscock and Neil Chivas – Suzuki GSX1100ET
1980: Dave Hiscock and Neil Chivas – Suzuki GSX1100T (Black Pipe)
1981: Malcolm Campbell and Mick Cole – Honda CB1100R
1982: Dave Hiscock and Neville Hiscock – Suzuki GSX1100SXZ Katana
1983: Bill Biber and Phil Payne – Honda VF750F
1984: Alan DeLatour and Dave Martin – Honda VF1000F
1985: Dave Hiscock and Neil Chivas – Suzuki GSX-R750F
1986: Aaron Slight and Rob Doran – Yamaha FZ750
1987: Aaron Slight and Wayne Clark – Yamaha FZR1000
1988: Tony Rees and Dave Hicks – Yamaha FZR1000


the incorrect wikipedia list i'd pick?

[Kickaha]

Steve Bryan has the 6 hour winning BMW in his collection.

It didn't win a 6 hour, might have won the BEARs 3 hr the day before ?


He did, Phil Payne I am trying to remember what his business was called Dr Desmo?

Originally he had Cycletreads at 50 Tuam st where there was a collection of Motorcycle related businesses

[HenryDorsetCase]

Originally he had Cycletreads at 50 Tuam st where there was a collection of Motorcycle related businesses

Is he still doing tyres in Darfield? He had a nice OW01 too when he was in Manchester St as well.

[Grumph]

Is he still doing tyres in Darfield? He had a nice OW01 too when he was in Manchester St as well.

Different person. Don Wooley had Pit Lane in Manchester st then moved to Darfield post quakes. Now on the inland road and still trading as Pit Lane.

I've no idea where Phil Payne is now. About my age so retired I'd assume.

[Grumph]

It didn't win a 6 hour, might have won the BEARs 3 hr the day before ?

Don't know. It's a well known bike - Casper ? - Pretty sure it's got 6 hour history. Ask Steve.

[roogazza]

Don't know. It's a well known bike - Casper ? - Pretty sure it's got 6 hour history. Ask Steve.

Yes, Bill used to peddle a BMW named Casper' more likely a Bears bike tho ?
Don't recall BMW ever winning a 6 Hour ? Here I mean NZ.

[F5 Dave]

Got restoed, there was even an article about it in BRM Mag.
Anyhoo, off to buy some new Grips from TSS here in the Hutt.

[Kickaha]

Don't know. It's a well known bike - Casper ? - Pretty sure it's got 6 hour history. Ask Steve.

I know the bike, I have a pic I took of it at the 6 hour, pretty sure it did the BEARs event on the Saturday and didn't race the Sunday, they were going to run it at SOT until Jay hurt himself


Anyhoo, off to buy some new Grips from TSS here in the Hutt.

Give Jimmy a big kiss for me

[pete376403]

Was this a K100 BMW? Did it blow up in a fairly big way at some time? A mate bought a rather scuzzy K100 some years back off TradeMe, was reputedly a 6 hr bike that had dropped a rod and been rebuilt overnight (?) While replacing a clutch and fixing some other things he did find evidence of some damage including a rod that had been installed wrong way round on the crank. Ran ok but had evidence of a hard life, front disks were worn way past limits. He had a couple of replacements turned down from LandRover flywheels - top grade cast iron gave superb braking

[jellywrestler]

Yes, Bill used to peddle a BMW named Casper' more likely a Bears bike tho ?
Don't recall BMW ever winning a 6 Hour ? Here I mean NZ.

never happened, there would be only a couple that even competed too, i think john britten rode one in the six hour. i have all but one programme, i might sit down and have a looksee

[roogazza]

never happened, there would be only a couple that even competed too, i think john britten rode one in the six hour. i have all but one programme, i might sit down and have a looksee

Correct, I was more thinking of the Aussie 6 hours and the twin Beemers that raced in some of them.
Tony Hatton was one.

[F5 Dave]

I know the bike, I have a pic I took of it at the 6 hour, pretty sure it did the BEARs event on the Saturday and didn't race the Sunday, they were going to run it at SOT until Jay hurt himself



Give Jimmy a big kiss for me
Yeah Andrew said he'd busted his ankle poor chap.

And give Jimmy your own kiss you voyeur. :drool:

[Kickaha]

Kasper the K100, This was at the last 6 hour

[husaberg]

the incorrect wikipedia list i'd pick?

twas from Wikipedia, I cant speak for its accuracy, if its wrong though you can edit it
I tired to find it on the MNZ page but it looks like they list them individually.

Edit MNZ has the exact same list on their FB page?
https://www.facebook.com/motorcyclingnz/photos/a.147904465281449/1076041672467719

[husaberg]

never happened, there would be only a couple that even competed too, i think john britten rode one in the six hour. i have all but one programme, i might sit down and have a looksee

didn't one of the R90's nearly win an Aussie one? the ones with the orange fade out tanks

edit it runner up twice and then win on a R100
esults[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Castrol_Six_Hour&action=edit&section=3)]


<tbody>
Year
Position
Riders
Manufacturer
Motorcycle
Laps


1970


1st
Len Atlee, Brian Hindle
Triumph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_Engineering_Co_Ltd)
Bonneville 650
312


2nd
C Brown, R Jackson
Honda (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda)
CB750 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB750)
308


3rd
D Burgess, Joe Eastmure
Suzuki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki)
T20-250
303


1971


1st
Brian Hindle, Clive Knight
Honda
CB750
333


2nd
Tony Hatton, Paul Spooner
Yamaha (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Motor_Company)
XS650 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_XS_650)
330


3rd
Max Robinson, B Gault
Honda
CB750
328


1972


1st
Mike Steele, Dave Burgess
Kawasaki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Heavy_Industries)
H2 750
334


2nd
G Thomas, M Robinson
Honda
CB750
332


3rd
Ken Blake, J Curley
Ducati (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati)
GT750
330


1973


1st
Ken Blake
Kawasaki
Z1B 900
342


2nd
Warren Willing, John Boote
Kawasaki
H2 750
341


3rd
Tony Hatton
BMW
R75
340


1974


1st
Ken Blake, Len Atlee
Kawasaki
Z1 900
344


2nd
John Warrian
Kawasaki
Z1 900
336


3rd
K Chevell, B Mayes
Kawasaki
Z1 900
334


1975


1st
Gregg Hansford (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Hansford), Murray Sayle
Kawasaki
Z1 900
335


2nd
Ken Blake
BMW
R90S (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R90S)
331


3rd
Roger Heyes, S Crymble
Kawasaki
Z1 900
329


1976


1st
Jim Budd, Roger Heyes
Kawasaki
Z1B
350


2nd
Ken Blake, Tony Hatton
BMW
R90S
349


3rd
Dan Oakhill, Ross Pink
Ducati
900SS
348


1977


1st
Ken Blake, Joe Eastmure
BMW
R100S (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_R100S)
356


2nd
Jim Budd, Neil Chivas
Kawasaki
Z1B 900
356


3rd
Alan Hales, Dave Burgess
Kawasaki
Z650 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Z650)
353


1978


1st
Roger Heyes, Jim Budd
Yamaha
XS1100 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XS1100)
354


2nd
John Warrian, Terry Kelly
Ducati
900SS
353


3rd
Mick Cole, Dennis Neil
Honda
CBX1000
353


1979


1st
Alan Hales, Neill Chivas
Suzuki
GS1000 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_GS1000)
360


2nd
Greg Pretty, Jim Budd
Yamaha
XS1100
357


3rd
Len Atlee, Gary Coleman
Yamaha
XS1100
357


1980


1st
Andrew Johnson, Wayne Gardner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Gardner)
Honda
CB1100R (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CB1100R)
322


2nd
Neil Chivas, John Pace
Suzuki
GSX1100
322


3rd
Roger Heyes, Dennis Neil
Honda
CB1100R
318


1981


1st
Dave Petersen, Neville Hiscock (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Hiscock)
Suzuki
GSX1100
314


2nd
Roger Heyes, Malcolm Campbell
Suzuki
GSX1100
313


3rd
Ron Boulden, Stephen Gall
Yamaha
XS1100
312


1982


1st
Wayne Gardner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Gardner), Wayne Clarke
Honda
CB1100R
367


2nd
John Pace, Peter Byers
Honda
CB1100R
367


3rd
Alan Blanco, Geoff French
Honda
CB1100R
367


1983


1st
Malcolm Campbell, Rod Cox
Honda
VF750F (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_VF750F)
372


2nd
Rob Phillis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Phillis), G French
Honda
VF750F
372


3rd
R Heyes, Robert Holden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Holden_(motorcyclist))
Suzuki
GSX1000S
372


1984


1st
Richard Scott, Michael Dowson
Yamaha
RZ500 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_RZ500)
260


2nd
Wayne Gardner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Gardner), John Pace
Honda
VF1000 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_VF1000)
260


3rd
Neil Chivas, Robert Holden
Suzuki
Katana 750
256


1985


1st
Richard Scott, Paul Feeney
Yamaha
FZ750 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_FZ750)
238


2nd
Len Willing, Iain Pero
Kawasaki
GPz900R (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_GPZ900R)
238


3rd
Michael Dowson, Kevin Magee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Magee_(motorcycle_racer))
Yamaha
FZ750
238


1986


1st
Michael Dowson, Kevin Magee
Yamaha
FZ750
270


2nd
Robert Holden, Brent Jones
Suzuki
GSXR750
270


3rd
Richard Scott, Rod Cox
Yamaha
FZ750
269


1987


1st
Kevin Magee, Michael Dowson
Yamaha
FZR1000 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_FZR1000)
269


2nd
Peter Byers, James Knight
Yamaha
FZR1000
266


3rd
Robert Holden, Aaron Slight (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Slight)
Suzuki
GSX-R750H
265

</tbody>

Check out 1984..

Also Croz
Crosby, however, is the only rider ever to win each of the Daytona 200, Imola 200, Suzuka 8-Hour and the Isle of Man TT.

[Grumph]

Name there I've always wanted to know more about. Craig Brown, 2nd in 1970.
Supposedly a kiwi living in OZ. No one in local roadrace circles at the time had ever heard of him.
A mystery man.

[pritch]

- top grade cast iron gave superb braking

So rare as to be unique for a K100.

[roogazza]

Name there I've always wanted to know more about. Craig Brown, 2nd in 1970.
Supposedly a kiwi living in OZ. No one in local roadrace circles at the time had ever heard of him.
A mystery man.

Lol a mate from Lower Hutt , we met in about 1966 on 80cc Yamahas. Always admired his riding skills big talent. Rode to the 1970 Aussie 6 hour,took off the handlbar fairing on his CB 750 and put on some bars.Ran out of brakes and pitted but was gunna win it solo !
A group headed off to Sydney in about 68' I still had 3 mths to do on my apprenticeship so was delayed.
Craig got into some silly stuff and became a 501 couple of years ago. Lives Mangonui up Nrth.
Mystery man for sure !! I could write a book lol. (well I have,half way thru !).

[Grumph]

Thanks for that. At that time here in the SI we were sharing race days with the cars.
In the long gaps between our races there was usually a group formed to talk - well, gossip would describe it better - and of course after that ride his name came up.
As I said, no one had heard of him. So we went back to asking Nev Landrebe about the US....

[pete376403]

So rare as to be unique for a K100.

Dont know what standard K100 brakes were like, but these disks were really good. Probably illegal as not from an approved manufacturer. They were very well made and the only way you would now they were not a "off the shelf" part is that the threaded holes where the clutch cover bolted were still visible. And the light film of rust every morning, whcu went away with the first application of the brakes

[pete376403]

Lol a mate from Lower Hutt , we met in about 1966 on 80cc Yamahas. Always admired his riding skills big talent. Rode to the 1970 Aussie 6 hour,took off the handlbar fairing on his CB 750 and put on some bars.Ran out of brakes and pitted but was gunna win it solo !
Our group headed off to Sydney in about 68' I still had 3 mths to do on my apprenticeship so was delayed.
Craig got into some silly stuff and became a 501 couple of years ago. Lives Mangonui up Nrth.
Mystery man for sure !! I could write a book lol. (well I have,half way thru !).

"Two Wheels" did a feature about him after the 6 Hours, titled "A star out of nowhere", mentioning he was known in NZ as the "King of the Rimutaka hill"/
The story mentioned that he was unable to get replacement brake pads, the local distributor being unwilling to take them from a bike on the showroom floor, and that was the main reason for not winning. (Shit I wish my memory wculd recall useful stuff)

[F5 Dave]

Yer kidding right? Some people like these, but they are a big heavy slug that you would be mad to VMX as it would be hammered by its date range contemporaries as well as hammering you literally.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4713315457

And it's not very standard and it's not very road legal.

What else could you buy for that money? Quite a bit. Plus on behalf, that's always plausible deniabilty.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4718245670

I like this. Its cool. Someone buy it and let me ride it.

[Grumph]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4718245670

I like this. Its cool. Someone buy it and let me ride it.

His BMW K100 is a better buy if you want a decent bike that's been fucked about.

Mate had one of the first wings in ChCh. Freely admitted that if it fell over he couldn't pick it up. Not a small guy either.

[HenryDorsetCase]

His BMW K100 is a better buy if you want a decent bike that's been fucked about.

Mate had one of the first wings in ChCh. Freely admitted that if it fell over he couldn't pick it up. Not a small guy either.

I just do what everyone does and get my butler to pick it up if it falls down

[FLUB]

His BMW K100 is a better buy if you want a decent bike that's been fucked about.
.

It's horrible!

Sent from my Pixel 4a (5G) using Tapatalk

[roogazza]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4718245670

I like this. Its cool. Someone buy it and let me ride it.

Quite fast for their day, but there's always a corner after every straightaway !
Came across them at an early 6 hour...
Honda may have even taken them home after the first practice, wore thru their exhausts?? :laugh:

[F5 Dave]

So, why no front mudguard? How bad would that be in the rain (and wof fail surely? ).

[HenryDorsetCase]

His BMW K100 is a better buy if you want a decent bike that's been fucked about.


speaking of which:


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/bmw/listing/4715015728

[Grumph]

Quite fast for their day, but there's always a corner after every straightaway !
Came across them at an early 6 hour...
Honda may have even taken them home after the first practice, wore thru their exhausts?? :laugh:

Shades of the Yamaha TX750's at the Aussie 6 hour. The factory bought the only one that finished straight out of the impound area.
It was a private entry and they told Kirby they'd never taken it over 6000rpm....

[husaberg]

His BMW K100 is a better buy if you want a decent bike that's been fucked about.

Mate had one of the first wings in ChCh. Freely admitted that if it fell over he couldn't pick it up. Not a small guy either.

Which is funny as even Honda tried pretty hard as they put on Alloy rims.
By all accounts the first wings were quite sporty more in the vein of a VFR than a modern goldwing/winnebago
from memory they cut some pretty decent top speeds and 1/4's

[jellywrestler]

Quite fast for their day, but there's always a corner after every straightaway !
Came across them at an early 6 hour...
Honda may have even taken them home after the first practice, wore thru their exhausts?? :laugh:

i phil carmen told me a few months ago he raced a gold wing and yes they wore through their pipes, before the race he went back home and had to weld all the pipes up to be allowed to race, he asked the other team how they got on on a gold wing and they said they simply bogged up the pipes, enough for scrutineering as as soon as they were on the track no one would know, imagine how much bog was littering the circuit

[SaferRides]

I was on a group ride on Oz with someone who'd just ridden one around Australia! Cornering speeds were limited, but it was very quick once on the power.

Sent from my SM-S906E using Tapatalk

[jellywrestler]

speaking of which:


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/bmw/listing/4715015728

they are cracking down on side mounted plates, won't get a wof and moving the plate will be a mission.

[F5 Dave]

Good condition for the age, apparently.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4706336860

The Actual Fuck?!??

Cycled between chicken coup and outside every 5 or 10 years.

[jellywrestler]

Good condition for the age, apparently.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4706336860

The Actual Fuck?!??

Cycled between chicken coup and outside every 5 or 10 years.

there was a brand new one in levin that they couldn't get that money for about 18 months ago, who writes this shite, nothing about rego status etc, i guess 50% of the worlds people are below avergae in reality

[Laava]

You'd think he could throw in a new starter moor for that money! And at least straighten up the left hand mirror. Not only incredibly out of touch re price, but very fucken lazy!

[jim.cox]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4706336860


Ewww, Yuck!

[F5 Dave]

Nope. We're not there yet. Try again in 2030.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4753052533

[jellywrestler]

Nope. We're not there yet. Try again in 2030.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4753052533

why do people think people will buy of four photos that really show the bike, but not the condition?

[F5 Dave]

Left side of bike missing :gob:

[dangerous]

ya WHAT... its a fucking CG my kids kx with more HP per liter than a Lambo aint worth near that...https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4764737620

[F5 Dave]

It's not even in good condition.
Why do people think they can wind the speedo back to zero if they put a new piston in? Ooh look. We've made it new:rolleyes:.

[Racing Dave]

It's not even in good condition. .

And yet the outrageous price is 'frim'.

[dangerous]

And yet the outrageous price is 'frim'.

its the yongxing dash what ever the fuck that is, ohh and the apes LOL

[jim.cox]

A good honest listing this one

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/royal-enfield/listing/4775214307

The description is brilliant

[F5 Dave]

Ha, well written. Low mileage does say a lot, less than 1000km per year. Snore.

Head out on the Highwaaay. , . and return in 1/2 an hourrr.
Yeah girl gonna make a cuppa, search around and there's no earl gray.
Fire all of once a lamppost, and explode on the driveway. :Punk:

[dangerous]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4775878015

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4775878015
this below is pretty funky...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/4771191737

fuji rabbits you could say were Subarus


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4718245670

I like this. Its cool. Someone buy it and let me ride it.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bsa/listing/4669207887
if not this bike would be everything the SR should have been for a ton bike
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/triumph/listing/4759237371

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4775878015

I had the 250 as a 17yr old. It really was quite shit. I don't use the term 'shite' as it wasn't quite that good.

[wetanz]

wtf (https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4778037205)

a TX650 still has an e-start, no matter how much XS1 lipstick you smear over it

[dangerous]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4790211987

fuck... I paid half that for a turbo with half the milage... SHIT

[jellywrestler]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4790211987

fuck... I paid half that for a turbo with half the milage... SHIT

there will be someone who had one in their youth that will think this is right, there weer a shitload more owners of these than the turbos so a wide possible market.

[husaberg]

I think this is cool, Grooby at the hydraulic shop did one similar but this is even cooler.
I always loved the boardwalk racer look
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/4788650055
354785354786
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=5030
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/86554-ESE-s-works-engine-tuner?p=1130334491#post1130334491

[F5 Dave]

there will be someone who had one in their youth that will think this is right, there weer a shitload more owners of these than the turbos so a wide possible market.

Bollocks. There were heaps of Mitsi Mirages in the early 80s. I can't see anyone getting fizzy about them.
Ha let's check. 3 listings.
Na. Nope. N, um , hold on.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/mitsubishi/mirage/listing/4776532853

Ok, so is this proof Jelly is depressingly right?
Or is this just another Optimistic Seller?

I guess time will tell on both counts.
. . . Wonder if it has Super ShiftTM?

[jellywrestler]

Bollocks. There were heaps of Mitsi Mirages in the early 80s. I can't see anyone getting fizzy about them.
Ha let's check. 3 listings.
Na. Nope. N, um , hold on.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/mitsubishi/mirage/listing/4776532853

Ok, so is this proof Jelly is depressingly right?
Or is this just another Optimistic Seller?

I guess time will tell on both counts.
. . . Wonder if it has Super ShiftTM?

BSA Bantams, Army Indians, Morris Minors were all just tools, and yet they are popular now cause people have memories.
It's not everyones cup of tea but if i saw a red GS5500EX like my first new bike i'd be very tempted, got way better bikes but did 36000kms in 18 months on it and it was a fine machine, my next bike did everything better but it didn't have that place in my life as the GS did

[jellywrestler]

Bollocks. There were heaps of Mitsi Mirages in the early 80s. I can't see anyone getting fizzy about them.
Ha let's check. 3 listings.
Na. Nope. N, um , hold on.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/mitsubishi/mirage/listing/4776532853

Ok, so is this proof Jelly is depressingly right?
Or is this just another Optimistic Seller?

I guess time will tell on both counts.
. . . Wonder if it has Super ShiftTM?

have you seen what they are using on vintage car rallies nowadays, this will fit right in, as long as the heater works

[pritch]

have you seen what they are using on vintage car rallies nowadays, this will fit right in, as long as the heater works

That's just depressing. Recently I was thinking about Bond, James Bond. I never much liked the movies but did like the books. In a recent conversation I mentioned Bond's car and the person to whom I was talking assumed I meant the Aston Martin DB4. Nah, that's the movie. In the early books Bond drove a vintage Bentley like those big green lorries that won LeMans in the thirties. That seems odd now but in the 1950s when Fleming wrote the first Bond books those cars were only about twenty years old and that's when cars tend to be at their lowest value. Of course, most of us would probably have to take out a mortgage to buy one of those pre-war Bentleys now.

[roogazza]

have you seen what they are using on vintage car rallies nowadays, this will fit right in, as long as the heater works

I had a Cordia Turbo when they were new do they count ??
Come to think of it I've had a heap of cars and bikes. Like six Mk1 Escorts and 6 Mk two Escort Sports ! I won't do a list just too many !
I was a Mechanic from mid sixties , bought/sold lots. ( I did count the bikes tho.....56 ! LOL.)...
Bet you've had a few Spyda ????

[F5 Dave]

BSA Bantams, Army Indians, Morris Minors were all just tools, and yet they are popular now cause people have memories.
It's not everyones cup of tea but if i saw a red GS5500EX like my first new bike i'd be very tempted, got way better bikes but did 36000kms in 18 months on it and it was a fine machine, my next bike did everything better but it didn't have that place in my life as the GS did
Mine was a Blue 1980, but 2nd hand as poor. Did very many kms.
Much rather have my RZ back.

[jellywrestler]

I had a Cordia Turbo when they were new do they count ??
Come to think of it I've had a heap of cars and bikes. Like six Mk1 Escorts and 6 Mk two Escort Sports ! I won't do a list just too many !
I was a Mechanic from mid sixties , bought/sold lots. ( I did count the bikes tho.....56 ! LOL.)...
Bet you've had a few Spyda ????

not many cars, and most didn't get another owner, and nothing to speak of, they did a job, thats all

[F5 Dave]

I had a Vauxhall Victor at same time as GS.
GF said she preferred the bike. It really was that shite even as 3.3.

Then a mere 30something years later bought another car.
So, two and counting.

[neels]

have you seen what they are using on vintage car rallies nowadays, this will fit right in, as long as the heater works

Given that a lot of the membership of the VCC are now in their 70's and 80's I can understand why there are so many going for the more comfortable modern machinery, but still plenty willing to get the older machinery out, 200+ entries for this years Canterbury Branch pre-1932 vehicle Irishman's rally.

For context, anything 30 years old is Vintage Car Club eligible, so our Peugeot 306 cabriolet makes the list next year....


I had a Cordia Turbo when they were new do they count ??
Come to think of it I've had a heap of cars and bikes. Like six Mk1 Escorts and 6 Mk two Escort Sports ! I won't do a list just too many !
I was a Mechanic from mid sixties , bought/sold lots. ( I did count the bikes tho.....56 ! LOL.)...
Bet you've had a few Spyda ????
If you still had a running Cordia turbo it would get plenty of interest. The 80's cars are the current machines of interest, slowly catching up with the escalated values of the 60's & 70's machinery that the moneyed up young boomers and older Gen X have outbidding each other for

[Kickaha]

That's just depressing. Recently I was thinking about Bond, James Bond. I never much liked the movies but did like the books.

Daniel Craig was the first Bond to play him as in the books and not the fucked up comedy fest the others were


I had a Vauxhall Victor at same time as GS.
GF said she preferred the bike. It really was that shite even as 3.3.


Wash your mouth out with battery acid, compared to other offerings of the time the 3.3 was pure excellence

[Drew]

Bollocks. There were heaps of Mitsi Mirages in the early 80s. I can't see anyone getting fizzy about them.
Ha let's check. 3 listings.
Na. Nope. N, um , hold on.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/mitsubishi/mirage/listing/4776532853

Ok, so is this proof Jelly is depressingly right?
Or is this just another Optimistic Seller?

I guess time will tell on both counts.
. . . Wonder if it has Super ShiftTM?


I had a Cordia Turbo when they were new do they count ??
Come to think of it I've had a heap of cars and bikes. Like six Mk1 Escorts and 6 Mk two Escort Sports ! I won't do a list just too many !
I was a Mechanic from mid sixties , bought/sold lots. ( I did count the bikes tho.....56 ! LOL.)...
Bet you've had a few Spyda ????
I see the odd Mirage and Lancer on marketplace that I want. I'd prolly have one as a daily if I hadn't bought a fucking house.

[pete376403]

I see the odd Mirage and Lancer on marketplace that I want. I'd prolly have one as a daily if I hadn't bought a fucking house.

parents had a Mitsi GTO ( the original shape) , went in the estate sale for next to nothing.

[dangerous]

I had a Vauxhall Victor at same time as GS.
GF said she preferred the bike. It really was that shite even as 3.3.


FFS Dave... the 3.3 Victor ws AWESOME great seats nice dash and went like fucking stink... mine had 4x2s under the rear springs mean as

[HenryDorsetCase]

Daniel Craig was the first Bond to play him as in the books and not the fucked up comedy fest the others were




I used to think Dalton wasnt bad in terms of the stone killer aspect but its been a looooong time since I have seen the films. I did play that Goldeneye game a fair bit on playstation

[jim.cox]

The seller may might be optimistic,

Its a nice bike at a fair price.

But, my God, the description. Where did they get those words? Spin docteur par excellance, we are looking at A1 super-class bovine scatology here

:)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/4794531746

[F5 Dave]

The British cars were terrible, OK mine was more worn out (a mate went to look at it and for some reason I bought it) but they all got rooted extraordinarily quickly because, ironically, they were made out of the shit metal that the jap crap cars were supposedly made of.

That said, the Cordia turbos probably all went up in flames along with their turbos.,
(OK I only heard of one that did that, but I didn't really know car people). :msn-wink:

[F5 Dave]

The seller may might be optimistic,

Its a nice bike at a fair price.

But, my God, the description. Where did they get those words? Spin docteur par excellance, we are looking at A1 super-class bovine scatology here

:)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/4794531746
Sounds like he's scraped that from sales literature.

[Drew]

This fucken wounder.

[F5 Dave]

Unfinished projects as his handle.

Wot a tosseŕ.

[Vinz0r]

The seller may might be optimistic,

Its a nice bike at a fair price.

But, my God, the description. Where did they get those words? Spin docteur par excellance, we are looking at A1 super-class bovine scatology here

:)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/4794531746

Sounds like a ChatGPT generated sales ad.

[SaferRides]

It's not everyones cup of tea but if i saw a red GS5500EX like my first new bike i'd be very tempted, got way better bikes but did 36000kms in 18 months on it and it was a fine machine, my next bike did everything better but it didn't have that place in my life as the GS did
I had a blue one, one of my least favourite bikes. Maybe coming after a couple of 2-stroke triples didn't help, but it simply was not fun to ride.

At the time I could have bought a low mileage GS1000E for the same money, which would have been the better buy. But I wanted a new one.



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[husaberg]

there is a blue one on Facebook atm
price seem fair
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7791495800934235

[pritch]

This fucken wounder.

It might get 'looks' but not the good kind.

[F5 Dave]

Interesting term, what is a wounder? Someone who self harms perhaps?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Interesting term, what is a wounder? Someone who self harms perhaps?

Equally it could be someone who wounds others. I'm imagining Chopper Read

[pete376403]

Bot an optomistic seller yet, or even pessimistic but, what would be a fair price for a pair of Suzuki 1100s, one a 84 GS1100G and the other a 82 S1100GK.
Both are complete, run, have good seats, exhausts, tanks and side covers. Registrations on hold. Cosmetically ok but a long way from perfect. Also have a box of random spares including another engine lacking pistons or carbs. Getting too old (me) to finish

[pete376403]

That's drawing a long bow. To be fair, neither were stand out bikes eg "Classics'' in the making. What were you thinking ballpark ?

The only 'classic' bike I have is a zero hour CR500R bike sitting in the back of my shed. Been there for over 22 years.

I know they are not classics,just old UJMs and not expecting anyhting like your cr500 would be worth. I know they are only worth what someone will pay for them, thats why I threw it out here, as it seems to be where somehat knowlegeable people comment on prices. I also know I cant take them with me.

[F5 Dave]

Whatever you do, list them separately.

Ideally not at the same time. Not everyone wants two enormous bikes in the garage.

I got pretty good money for my 1100. Lordy, was that 20 year ago? Geez almost. Was a great tourer.

[jellywrestler]

Bot an optomistic seller yet, or even pessimistic but, what would be a fair price for a pair of Suzuki 1100s, one a 84 GS1100G and the other a 82 S1100GK.
Both are complete, run, have good seats, exhausts, tanks and side covers. Registrations on hold. Cosmetically ok but a long way from perfect. Also have a box of random spares including another engine lacking pistons or carbs. Getting too old (me) to finish

the value of those is largely in the rego year, $60 odd for a full year rego, none of this leave it on hold and miss a good day riding, GS's are good solid old gals too, someone will enjoy them

[Drew]

Interesting term, what is a wounder? Someone who self harms perhaps?

I dunno really. Not a self harm type though.

What does the collective reckon a 86 GSXR1100 is worth? Complete bike, tidy, all original.

[Grumph]

Interesting term, what is a wounder? Someone who self harms perhaps?


I'm advised that a wounder is generally someone who likes old shit eg crap Mitsubishis.

Possibly some self- harm involved once the old shit is purchased

[F5 Dave]

I dunno really. Not a self harm type though.

What does the collective reckon a 86 GSXR1100 is worth? Complete bike, tidy, all original.

1st model. I'm no expert but if one fell into my hands I'd try auction it with 10k reserve. That was fairly ground (&bone) breaking bike, unlike a lot of the shite being touted as special price book.

[Drew]

1st model. I'm no expert but if one fell into my hands I'd try auction it with 10k reserve. That was fairly ground (&bone) breaking bike, unlike a lot of the shite being touted as special price book.

Yeah, I kinda thought the same thing.

[F5 Dave]

Polish polish, take it to a nice venue and take good pictures then write something honest with a decent description.

All the opposite of most of the features on this tread.

Good luck.

[jim.cox]

what would be a fair price for a pair of Suzuki 1100s, one a 84 GS1100G and the other a 82 S1100GK.

I'd want to think in running condition around 12k each - advertised separately. Those are great bikes.

If you ever let the '84 go for 6K it would be a steal.

Somewhere between the two maybe?

Just my nzd$0.02

[dangerous]

not so much about the price... but some people really do try to hard to sell... https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4821021148?rsqid=6b15093cd61a4abfa55572f78af6e2c4-001

dry stored... means its fucked full re build needed
just a wee dent... WTF
wheels unique to the RD range... LMFAO
rare... definition please, cos they aint FUCKING RARE

[jellywrestler]

not so much about the price... but some people really do try to hard to sell... https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4821021148?rsqid=6b15093cd61a4abfa55572f78af6e2c4-001

dry stored... means its fucked full re build needed
just a wee dent... WTF
wheels unique to the RD range... LMFAO
rare... definition please, cos they aint FUCKING RARE

they say the paint isn't broken on that dent, looks like it is in two shots, if it isn't why does it look that way?

[F5 Dave]

Some cunts stood on it trying to reach the top shelf. Animals.

Fuk that fiberglass is ugly.

[onearmedbandit]

Seller has withdrawn the listing...looks like he might've seen this thread...

[F5 Dave]

I seriously doubt that. Someone has made a good enough offer probably. Pity it's 'only' a 250. It does need rescue, but it won't be cheap.