Optimistic sellers

[pritch]

a $7k Royal Enfield Himalayan is functionally equivalent and significantly cheaper, surely?

Some deride the Enfield but Noraly, she of Itchy Boots fame, got good service from hers. Certainly no worse than her Hondas. From memory mainly a clutch failure on the Enfield, as opposed to a broken subframe on the 230 Honda and a fork seal and steering head bearings on her 300.

[F5 Dave]

Out of my field of interest, possibly as I don't have the free time with young-uns to take more long weekends or tours than I do to find out of overweight dirtbikes are a thing, all seem to gravitate to DRs if they are doing more serious stuff than their other adventure bikes are suited to.

Heck one is thinking of replacing his 690katieoom for some reason.

[dangerous]

but Noraly, she of Itchy Boots fame.

ohhh lets start a poll right now... would you? its a yes from me LOL

[pete376403]

ohhh lets start a poll right now... would you? its a yes from me LOL

Oh yes indeedy

[nzspokes]

a $7k Royal Enfield Himalayan is functionally equivalent and significantly cheaper, surely?

Himalayan is 60kg heavier and 10hp less with horrid suspension.


Out of my field of interest, possibly as I don't have the free time with young-uns to take more long weekends or tours than I do to find out of overweight dirtbikes are a thing, all seem to gravitate to DRs if they are doing more serious stuff than their other adventure bikes are suited to.

Heck one is thinking of replacing his 690katieoom for some reason.

Easy to pick up and ride like an old skool dirtbike. Also very reliable.

690 is an interesting bike but they wont fix the wide gearbox spacing.

[F5 Dave]

I understand the 690 fuel filler is underneath where you mount luggage on the flanks. Adventure riders obsess over fuel capacity, presumably with good reason.

If everyone in the group is riding the same bike spares provisioning is rationalised. lordy, starting to sound like a ILS zealot :rolleyes:.

[Oscar]

I understand the 690 fuel filler is underneath where you mount luggage on the flanks. Adventure riders obsess over fuel capacity, presumably with good reason.

If everyone in the group is riding the same bike spares provisioning is rationalised. lordy, starting to sound like a ILS zealot :rolleyes:.

You can get 220-240km out of a 690, but the seat will make you stop before you run out of gas.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Himalayan is 60kg heavier and 10hp less with horrid suspension.


How can it POSSIBLY be that much heavier? Is the RE made of depleted Uranium and steam pipe? with rims made of lead?

[F5 Dave]

I helped a mate move house and moved his small collection of CZ or Jawa, probably doesn't matter.

I eventually concluded that motorcycle manufacture must have been considered a means of undermining the Capitalist pig dogs by somehow sinking their countries by exporting the highest mass of shit metal possible.

Ironically CZ ( the more I think they were) had a history of effective competition dirtbikes to showcase communist superiority. Can't imagine they were that heavy.

So , RE: what have the Indians got against us? I mean apart from the horrors of oppressive colonial rule and theft of zillions of dollars of resources and labour. . .

[husaberg]

I helped a mate move house and moved his small collection of CZ or Jawa, probably doesn't matter.

I eventually concluded that motorcycle manufacture must have been considered a means of undermining the Capitalist pig dogs by somehow sinking their countries by exporting the highest mass of shit metal possible.

Ironically CZ ( the more I think they were) had a history of effective competition dirtbikes to showcase communist superiority. Can't imagine they were that heavy.

So , RE: what have the Indians got against us? I mean apart from the horrors of oppressive colonial rule and theft of zillions of dollars of resources and labour. . .

When you use a poorer quality metal you make it up with tube gauge.
Zetor tractors used to use thicker casting as they were a bit crude in casting tech and it was less likely to be porous.
it worked up to a point, but they used to paint the insides of the castings to ensure oil tightness.
I cant remember exactly but they were at least 1/2 -1 ton heaver then a EQ western tractors
in a lot of cases you are paying for tech not raw materials

[Laava]

How can it POSSIBLY be that much heavier? Is the RE made of depleted Uranium and steam pipe? with rims made of lead?
I checked, it is 38 kg different wet.

[dangerous]

fuck sakes guys... stop squwobling over a few kg and titanium tubed tractors... I asked who would root itchy boots? FUCK its not hard or trick question...

[husaberg]

fuck sakes guys... stop squwobling over a few kg and titanium tubed tractors... I asked who would root itchy boots? FUCK its not hard or trick question...

Maybe if she had a cr500 or TDR250 or a New Holland 120+hp tractor with a front PTO and a ti exhaust.....
she does seem like a nice chick though.

[F5 Dave]

Jesus Dangerous. She wouldn't let you root her actual boots. :lol:

[Laava]

fuck sakes guys... stop squwobling over a few kg and titanium tubed tractors... I asked who would root itchy boots? FUCK its not hard or trick question...
I was talking about Itchy Boots! Fuxache, get with the program!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Jesus Dangerous. She wouldn't let you root her actual boots. :lol:

I would! thats my fetish.

Also - If I could swing a leg over one, a CRF300L seems like a good option.


https://www.hondamotorbikes.co.nz/adventure-bikes/crf300l

[pritch]

When you use a poorer quality metal you make it up with tube gauge.
Zetor tractors used to use thicker casting as they were a bit crude in casting tech and it was less likely to be porous.
it worked up to a point, but they used to paint the insides of the castings to ensure oil tightness.
I cant remember exactly but they were at least 1/2 -1 ton heaver then a EQ western tractors
in a lot of cases you are paying for tech not raw materials

Many moons ago a motor industry technical executive of my acquaintance was shown a Romanian(?) 4WD that someone was excited to import into the country.
He laughed. It was overbuilt to extremes and weighed accordingly. His mirth helped spare us that beast.

[F5 Dave]

Anyhoo. Back on track. A nice paintjob on the tank, and a corroded shitpile is worth $6500 apparently.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3897596288

[F5 Dave]

Hoho! Click on pictures to see full screen

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3893390056


Hillary Ous.

[dangerous]

Jesus Dangerous. She wouldn't let you root her actual boots. :lol:

ill take that...



Anyhoo. Back on track. A nice paintjob on the tank, and a corroded shitpile is worth $6500 apparently.

ohhhh yeah sorry...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Three strikes:

Massively overpriced.
That bullshit twee "pretending I dont want to sell it but my SO is making me"
not as described. (original- but it has another engine in it and the pipes aren't stock).

No.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3898046012?bof=iP83ZAvu

Dave will be all over this though.

[dangerous]

Three strikes:

Massively overpriced.
That bullshit twee "pretending I dont want to sell it but my SO is making me"
not as described. (original- but it has another engine in it and the pipes aren't stock).

No.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3898046012?bof=iP83ZAvu

Dave will be all over this though.

awesome... but yeah naaa... 23k they are just trying their luck, milage is irrelevant... would I love mine back, hell yes.

[F5 Dave]

Pretty RD, but I'm a before or after guy. RD400G rises me as got a pillion from my Bro in law and got hooked on bikes. Had an F2 YPVS so hot on them. Mind you I have the ultimate YPVS in the garage. . . . Must finish it. Sigh.

[pritch]

Don't know where to put this so...

[F5 Dave]

Yeah I've seen that in real life on two mates bikes. Crazy stuff. Chain jumped off on one locking the rear wheel.

[F5 Dave]

Does this look like it's been stoved into a lampost already?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/ducati/listing/3883757697

[rambaldi]

Does this look like it's been stoved into a lampost already?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/ducati/listing/3883757697

At first I thought you were linking me to a turners insurance write-off auction.

[F5 Dave]

But the result looks the same doesn't it? Weird , maybe not relevant to this thread but Eww.

[HenryDorsetCase]

the only person I know who had one of those traded it very quickly. Very uncomfortable to ride he said. Weird feet-forward, arse locked in one position, long reach to the bars type of thing. Plus they make quite a lot of power and gobs of torque - he had had Hardly Ablesons which made some torques but no power.... He ended up on a Monster 1200R

[husaberg]

the only person I know who had one of those traded it very quickly. Very uncomfortable to ride he said. Weird feet-forward, arse locked in one position, long reach to the bars type of thing. - he had had Hardly Ablesons which made some torques but no power.... He ended up on a Monster 1200R

That seating position had me think of the Sons of anarchy they should sell it with sunnies and sneakers and a german helmet
https://www.bikebound.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Jax-Bike-SOA.jpg

[pritch]

The new Sportster comes in with 120 some bhp - up from sixty. And with forward controls. Otherwise bearing a remarkable resemblance to an Indian Scout.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?

[F5 Dave]

Ohh, Double Denim, he must be cool.

120hp from a stock Hardley? What is it a 2 litre?

[pritch]

ohh, double denim, he must be cool.

120hp from a stock hardley? What is it a 2 litre?

1200 iirc.

[husaberg]

1200 iirc.
The balloon tires remind me of a 1950's indian chief all right or a DC3 Dakota.

[pritch]

The balloon tires remind me of a 1950's indian chief all right or a DC3 Dakota.

The 48 had those tyres. That seat looks suss.

[Laava]

Are those forks telescopic or solid?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Can we talk about how dreamy Charlie Hunnam is? *swoon*

[Laava]

Dont cheapen yourself Henry, its not becoming.
So are we talking about the hunchback on the harley?

[F5 Dave]

Well this is my first non motorcycle I think, but related. I clicked as I was intrigued why you might need this in some specific action. :confused:
No. It's just light.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/tools-toolkits/listing/3911560861?bof=KpuWh6Vl


How many of these do they ever expect to sell? I think the manufacturer and the online seller were optimistic.

[Grumph]

Well this is my first non motorcycle I think, but related. I clicked as I was intrigued why you might need this in some specific action. :confused:
No. It's just light.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/tools-toolkits/listing/3911560861?bof=KpuWh6Vl


How many of these do they ever expect to sell? I think the manufacturer and the online seller were optimistic.


From what I've seen the use of actual hand tools is becoming passe. 18V drills used on nuts rather than proper ratchets as an example. I've already told a mate still in the trade he's slowly losing the use of his wrists. Lightweight spanners for the limp wristed.

Maybe if you were flying with your toolkit a lightweight version could be justified. But only if you were paying the airfreight personally.

If I hit someone with a spanner I want them to know it. Another reason not to buy.

[F5 Dave]

I'd wildly hoped for some sort of magnetic use issue, but. . .

[husaberg]

I'd wildly hoped for some sort of magnetic use issue, but. . .
Well it is an elastic material hard wearing and doesn't rust.
used a lot on north sea oil rigs i am told but has stregnth uses with notched.

I remember reading years ago pre collapse the soviets (who it seems had shit tons of it (yes i know the sr71 story) ) used to use it allegedly for shovels as it doesn't wear or snap at subzero conditions....looks like the army i used them as well
When they plated my arm i was a bit disappointed not to get titanium plates, the orthopod said heck no they are not strong enough.

I guess those ti spanner are a gift for those that have everything.....

[pete376403]

Well it is an elastic material hard wearing and doesn't rust.
used a lot on north sea oil rigs i am told but has stregnth uses with notched.

Could that be because it wont spark against other metals? Sparks could be an issue around oil or gas vapours

[husaberg]

Could that be because it wont spark against other metals? Sparks could be an issue around oil or gas vapours

maybe..... understanding was primarily it was the non corrosiveness .
aluminum can are banned from underground mines i never have really 100 got an answer why.

okay google

The general rule for underground coal mines, rule 29.1, prohibits unauthorized aluminum alloys underground. A fire spark can occur if some aluminum alloys strike a steel object.

with Ti
https://www.amardeepsteel.com/blog/SpecificBlog/titanium-alloys/titanium-alloys-for-oil-and-gas-industries.html

[pete376403]

maybe..... understanding was primarily it was the non corrosiveness .
aluminum can are banned from underground mines i never have really 100 got an answer why.

okay google


with Ti
https://www.amardeepsteel.com/blog/SpecificBlog/titanium-alloys/titanium-alloys-for-oil-and-gas-industries.html

ok, ta. I suppose there are dozens of Ti alloys with different characteristics.
A wprkmate had a Merlin mountainbike with a Ti frame - major selling point (besides the weight) was the pivotless rear suspension, where the bottom legs of the rear triangle flexed and there was a spring /damper unit at the top of the triangle below the saddle. Something that flexy isn't going to make a good wrench

[pritch]

From what I've seen the use of actual hand tools is becoming passe.

Thinking back to Alex Briggs' tool tray, and assuming that MotoGP mechanics are relatively leading edge, each socket he required had it's own ratchet handle fitted.
No wasting time changing sockets, just grab a different ratchet.

I'm assuming there was a big tool box somewhere with electric and air tools and pretty much any tool money could buy, but his go to was a simple plastic tray.

[Grumph]

Mike Sinclair tells a good story about Yamaha factory racebikes. Apparently they had been using more and more oddball fasteners over a few years. When Mike went to the factory with K Roberts he made a point of going to see the designers. He showed them one of the 3 legged socket things - with 8. 10 and 12mm sockets on the legs. Asked them to make next season's bikes possible to service using only this tool. They did.

Ti is a bit flexy. One of the F1 Ferrari's in the turbo era designed by a pom whose name I've forgotten actually used light gauge Ti plates as suspension pivots rather than Heim joints.

[F5 Dave]

These are dreadful, from the era tha Honda had given up to focus on making Civics.

The only thing to make it more dreary would be if it was the 250. So it's a lot of coin for this model. I mean maybe if it was mint. . .

But someone has had a go with the paint haven't they? :rolleyes:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3908186241?bof=mme67G46

[neels]

These are dreadful, from the era tha Honda had given up to focus on making Civics.

The only thing to make it more dreary would be if it was the 250. So it's a lot of coin for this model. I mean maybe if it was mint. . .

But someone has had a go with the paint haven't they? :rolleyes:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3908186241?bof=mme67G46
And some of the paint is already falling off, probably because of the buble in it, trying to get away from the christmas music.

Old enough for cheap rego, but still a bit spendy for an average 400 with ugly wheels.

[husaberg]

For the same money you can get a RC31... Its a no brainer really....

[F5 Dave]

The more you look the worse it gets. That engine has been painted black, in situ I reckon. Bolts and all, so no surface prep, good luck that staying on. Rattle can bodywork. But it's the little touches that. . . Well:nya:

[jellywrestler]

The more you look the worse it gets. That engine has been painted black, in situ I reckon. Bolts and all, so no surface prep, good luck that staying on. Rattle can bodywork. But it's the little touches that. . . Well:nya:

and that perfectly appointed pin striping.....
the icing on the cake?

[F5 Dave]

My favorite is the pillion pegs (accessorised with blue tinges). You may note the end is only done on one side just to complete the quality job.

[dangerous]

These are dreadful, from the era tha Honda had given up to focus on making Civics.

The only thing to make it more dreary would be if it was the 250. So it's a lot of coin for this model. I mean maybe if it was mint. . .

But someone has had a go with the paint haven't they? :rolleyes:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3908186241?bof=mme67G46

bollicks man, very good bikes and 80s style to go... awesome... but alas thats horrid and the price worse LOL

[F5 Dave]

To be fair I looked at a 750F of the same lineage that they were style apeing.

It was backwards compared to the Katana that I ended up with.

And that wasn't a very good bike.

[Laava]

Not a bike, but it aint no Lambo either!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/holden/hsv-gts/listing/3897308334?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[F5 Dave]

Isn't that just a taxi without the meter?

[onearmedbandit]

It's no longer a car in the proper sense of the word, it's now just an investment.

[husaberg]

Ohh, Double Denim, he must be cool.

120hp from a stock Hardley? What is it a 2 litre?

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/gettyimages-74684761-1563827866.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

All that money and its a manual. Only "desirable" to a few well heeled punters in two markets that dont matter. There are better options if you are "investing" 600k

[onearmedbandit]

Of course there is. But for some very very well heeled people it's something they can add to their extensive collection. I doubt any investment advisor would suggest someone with $600k to go put it in a car with limited appeal. Regardless, still doesn't stop it from being an investment.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Of course there is. But for some very very well heeled people it's something they can add to their extensive collection. I doubt any investment advisor would suggest someone with $600k to go put it in a car with limited appeal. Regardless, still doesn't stop it from being an investment.

I've invested all my cash in Jack Daniels, hookers and blow. The rest I wasted.

[dangerous]

To be fair I looked at a 750F of the same lineage that they were style apeing.

It was backwards compared to the Katana that I ended up with.

And that wasn't a very good bike.

hows that? had both and they both very 80s and that was as good as it got... or are you compearing to a bike of today?

[F5 Dave]

From memory, and I was like 19, the Honda was top heavy especially at the front and wasn't as lively. The Katana actually went quite well and I didn't mind the riding position. A friends dad rode it and came back gushing, said it cornered like it was on rails. That was supposed to be a compliment. But on reflection he was right. It steered like a train.
I was hardly a good rider at 20 when it was time to sell, but even I could tell when, and I have a corner in mind going down the rimutukas to this day, you fell into this bump and you could feel it twist. I knew it wasn't right.

[jellywrestler]

From memory, and I was like 19, the Honda was top heavy especially at the front and wasn't as lively. The Katana actually went quite well and I didn't mind the riding position. A friends dad rode it and came back gushing, said it cornered like it was on rails. That was supposed to be a compliment. But on reflection he was right. It steered like a train.
I was hardly a good rider at 20 when it was time to sell, but even I could tell when, and I have a corner in mind going down the rimutukas to this day, you fell into this bump and you could feel it twist. I knew it wasn't right. and those containers looked like a recently fucked bum too.

[pritch]

All that money and its a manual. Only "desirable" to a few well heeled punters in two markets that dont matter. There are better options if you are "investing" 600k

Nah. You can't just throw a coupla bales of hay or a sheep in the back of those poofy European cars like you can with a Holden.

[F5 Dave]

and those containers looked like a recently fucked bum too.
At the time I thought they were space age cool like Starwars or Cattlecar Galactica. But to put that in reference, only a few scant years before KISS were my favorite band, so my taste at the time couldn't be relied upon.
Still the alternative GSX was boxy and "of it's time' having lost the old fashioned but classier look of the GS range.

[F5 Dave]

Jesus Do Me.

These were pretty miserable but honest commuter Japan excess.

This like it has been stored outside (next to the Titanic).

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3925813212

[F5 Dave]

This one gets a special mention for the photos. What did he use?


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3923637375

[dangerous]

Jesus Do Me.
These were pretty miserable but honest commuter Japan excess.
This like it has been stored outside (next to the Titanic).
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3925813212

farking awesome... under powered for touring but great bikes had a 500... but this junker at that price... loughable.

This one gets a special mention for the photos. What did he use?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3923637375
reserve met and a ok price, not optimistic, as fugley as it is.

[F5 Dave]

Hard to tell from pictures on my fairly large Capitalist (work) phone. Box Brownie Nokia perhaps?

I had use of a mates ex courier hack in late 80s and was grateful as only transport while my CBX550 got new mains. It was a Honda. With all that entails.

Soft spot for NVs as a result. But you wouldn't want to spend your own money on one.

[jellywrestler]

This one gets a special mention for the photos. What did he use?


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3923637375

he was vaping mild passionfruit and watermelon while taking them

[F5 Dave]

Or rock-melon and sperm.

[FJRider]

This one gets a special mention for the photos. What did he use?




A very poor phone camera.

And I've seen CX400's in worse condition ... but not as high in asking price.

[Stylo]

A very poor phone camera.

And I've seen CX400's in worse condition ... but not as high in asking price.

I'm more interested in the state of mind the bidders are in to even put a bid on a shower of shit like that.

It has negative value to me. I'm struggling that some people out there are actually bidding on it.

[FJRider]

I'm more interested in the state of mind the bidders are in to even put a bid on a shower of shit like that.

It has negative value to me. I'm struggling that some people out there are actually bidding on it.

I'm certainly not interested in the state of mind of the seller ... OR the bidders.

If the seller can't make a decent effort to present the item they are selling at it's best ... I wouldn't bother to make the effort to do any bidding.

Good photos with a good camera makes a sale easy. Well ... if the price is right.

[pritch]

A very poor phone camera.

And I've seen CX400's in worse condition ... but not as high in asking price.

Actually that collection is like a masterclass in crap picture taking. It's not just that they're blurred, the composition is crap, most wouldn't show you anything if crystal clear.

[actungbaby]

These are dreadful, from the era tha Honda had given up to focus on making Civics.

The only thing to make it more dreary would be if it was the 250. So it's a lot of coin for this model. I mean maybe if it was mint. . .

But someone has had a go with the paint haven't they? :rolleyes:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3908186241?bof=mme67G46Yes i wrote mine of into a car.
Just happened park in front of me .even my 17 yr old brain.
Workd that out cbx 400 fc
Was revalation in compasion .
No way i buy one know .its was
Fine but lacked something
Mind cm 400 rode as loaner
Felt great.

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[actungbaby]

And some of the paint is already falling off, probably because of the buble in it, trying to get away from the christmas music.

Old enough for cheap rego, but still a bit spendy for an average 400 with ugly wheels.What is age for cheap rego.
Am vintage myself .

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[actungbaby]

My favorite is the pillion pegs (accessorised with blue tinges). You may note the end is only done on one side just to complete the quality job.What whould it make it perfect if was my old bike .written off bike. Then have farked handling
Frame &forks

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[HenryDorsetCase]

What is age for cheap rego.
Am vintage myself .

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40 years I believe.

[caseye]

Yep Veteran Rego at 40 years Old, got the Ol Coal Burner languishing in the shed, only pay $78.00 per year now.
She goes great, loves getting out, never settles for a quick around the block, always HamilTron for a burger and back, at least.

[actungbaby]

40 years I believe.Thanks hard belive that and i be
60 in few months .

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[Laava]

Not a motorbike but this sort of shit always makes me laugh. It needs absolutely everything done to it with no redeeming features.
My V8 neighbour gets given job lots like this all the time cos they are not worth anything. You would have to be unscrupulous to expect someone to pay for it and be happy.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/car-parts-accessories/ford/engines/listing/3931636567?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[HenryDorsetCase]

Not a motorbike but this sort of shit always makes me laugh. It needs absolutely everything done to it with no redeeming features.
My V8 neighbour gets given job lots like this all the time cos they are not worth anything. You would have to be unscrupulous to expect someone to pay for it and be happy.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/car-parts-accessories/ford/engines/listing/3931636567?bof=S2E6Ch8I

I think it would need to be bolted together to even be of use at the task it is best suited for: ensuring your aquatic vessel does not float away from where it is parked.

[F5 Dave]

Take an uninspiring retro rehash circa 1991 in pretty lame condition with dents and bad wheel paint (probably rattlecaned). Take some parts off after crashing it and buying some cheap bars.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3934582339

Hey Presto! 10k please.

[Navy Boy]

Jeepers... I see what you mean. It's not as though they've taken the time to even get it looking presentable either :weird:

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bmw/listing/3947740813

optimistic because even though it probably OWES you $21k, cos thats what you have spent on it, its still a 40hp commuter with nice paint.

[F5 Dave]

Is a Choke Delete a good thing?

And why advertise the mismatched tyres like its a good thing?


Saw a few bikes out today. But I've never seen one of these so called modern cafe racers actually being ridden. Guess coffee shop is as far as they go.

[JATZ]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bmw/listing/3947740813

optimistic because even though it probably OWES you $21k, cos thats what you have spent on it, its still a 40hp commuter with nice paint.

Half that asking would be about right.

The back end looks all wrong though.

[Laava]

Is a Choke Delete a good thing?

And why advertise the mismatched tyres like its a good thing?


Saw a few bikes out today. But I've never seen one of these so called modern cafe racers actually being ridden. Guess coffee shop is as far as they go.

Is it appropriate to state cafe racer without the qualifier "project"?

[nerrrd]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bmw/listing/3947740813

optimistic because even though it probably OWES you $21k, cos thats what you have spent on it, its still a 40hp commuter with nice paint.


New rego and WOF will be issued on sale.

How will he be able to (legally) get a WOF for that back end?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Why is this worth $85000?

Does it have provenance and a full works race kit or summat?

I would ring Cyclesplat to ask but a) I am just a tyre kicker; and b) when I did want to buy a bike off them, I phoned and said "send me the paperwork and I will send you the money" and they sold it to someone else that afternoon. So fuckem. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3946194984

[husaberg]

Why is this worth $85000?

Does it have provenance and a full works race kit or summat?

I would ring Cyclesplat to ask but a) I am just a tyre kicker; and b) when I did want to buy a bike off them, I phoned and said "send me the paperwork and I will send you the money" and they sold it to someone else that afternoon. So fuckem. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3946194984
if an NC30 is worth 10 how can that not be worth 100G.?
there was a ex TKA Kawa ie semi works Slight Phillis etc team ZXR750 for sale on TM a while back at a pretty decent price ie less than 30. think it was only 24g

[James Deuce]

Why is this worth $85000?

Does it have provenance and a full works race kit or summat?

I would ring Cyclesplat to ask but a) I am just a tyre kicker; and b) when I did want to buy a bike off them, I phoned and said "send me the paperwork and I will send you the money" and they sold it to someone else that afternoon. So fuckem. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3946194984
That's cheap. Most of the ones I've seen overseas are selling in excess of $NZ100k.

It looks horrible though. I hate those 3 spoke wheels with a passion. In black too. Yeah, nah.

[Grumph]

The ad is very poor IMO. Much more info is needed. As HDC has said - provenance is everything. Condition is important too. How long since last engine rebuild ?
If it's reasonably fresh and with known provenance that's not a bad price. But a potential buyer needs to know.

[James Deuce]

It is a terrible ad, but most bike ads are copy pasta from the manufacturer's online marketing. 1987/88 is a long time ago now. This bike would leave Cyclespot's staff confused as fuck. It's a middle-weight, tiddler lady's bike with no HP compared to most new sports bikes, even in race trim.

[pritch]

Why is this worth $85000?



If it was raced by Freddie Merkel maybe but then they'd have mentioned that. I'm told by a former insider that Cyclespot still have one or two knowledgeable salesmen but most are now very 'ordinary'.

[onearmedbandit]

What does HP have to do with its value lol

[James Deuce]

What does HP have to do with its value lol
Absolutely nothing to those who know.

[onearmedbandit]

Absolutely nothing to those who know.

Which begs the question, why even raise the issue of HP? Serious question as the only people who would buy the bike would know.

[F5 Dave]

If it was raced by Freddie Merkel maybe but then they'd have mentioned that. I'm told by a former insider that Cyclespot still have one or two knowledgeable salesmen but most are now very 'ordinary'.
It would have to be Freddie Mercury's bike.

[James Deuce]

Which begs the question, why even raise the issue of HP? Serious question as the only people who would buy the bike would know.
I think you missed the point. I was talking about whoever put the ad up doesn't understand what they are advertising. So low effort ad as a result.

[onearmedbandit]

Sure the advert is very poorly written but the more important information would be provenance, mechanical history etc. Things particular to that bike. Anyone who knows what they’re looking at knows the HP but not the other important information. But maybe you’re right, maybe there’s ignorant RC30 buyers out there that are expecting a super high HP race bike and not some ‘tiddler lady’s’ bike…

[HenryDorsetCase]

It would have to be Freddie Mercury's bike.

If it was, wouldn't you lead your ad with "Raced by inaugural World Superbike Champion Fred Merkel, contains full HRC works race kit including unobtanium conrods and an ECU made out of unicorn tears and angels wings".

I could be wrong but arent those "ugly" 3 spoke wheels magnesium Dymags? I can't zoom in enough to see.

[HenryDorsetCase]

$26k Euro in 2013 for an actual Fred Merkel Rumi team bike seems like good buying about now.

https://www.bonhams.com/auction/20924/lot/486/the-ex-fred-merkel-world-superbike-championship198990-honda-vfr750r-rc30-production-racing-motorcycle-frame-no-hmrc30-2000429/

[F5 Dave]

If it was, wouldn't you lead your ad with "Raced by inaugural World Superbike Champion Fred Merkel, contains full HRC works race kit including unobtanium conrods and an ECU made out of unicorn tears and angels wings".

I could be wrong but arent those "ugly" 3 spoke wheels magnesium Dymags? I can't zoom in enough to see.
My post wasn't a typo.

I want to race my motorbicycle, I want to race my bike. . .

[husaberg]

I could be wrong but arent those "ugly" 3 spoke wheels magnesium Dymags? I can't zoom in enough to see.

Those Dymags appear to be Marvics
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[HenryDorsetCase]

Those Dymags appear to be Marvics
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click on the pics three times

I still can't read it. Old man shouts at cloud.

[husaberg]

I still can't read it. Old man shouts at cloud.

352159plus 10carrots

[James Deuce]

Sure the advert is very poorly written but the more important information would be provenance, mechanical history etc. Things particular to that bike. Anyone who knows what they’re looking at knows the HP but not the other important information. But maybe you’re right, maybe there’s ignorant RC30 buyers out there that are expecting a super high HP race bike and not some ‘tiddler lady’s’ bike…
No, I'm not commenting on the potential buyers.

[F5 Dave]

11yr old dirtbike. That's pretty spendy.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/yamaha/listing/3952807527

[F5 Dave]

I'm only posting this as HDC said he spent his school years doodling choppers on his exercise books. I imagine this qualifies. Where does one get a seat like that?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/harley-davidson/listing/3953881936
Looks like Cheeky's bike from Krazy magazine.

[jim.cox]

Where does one get a seat like that?

Straight out of the late 1960's

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm only posting this as HDC said he spent his school years doodling choppers on his exercise books. I imagine this qualifies. Where does one get a seat like that?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/harley-davidson/listing/3953881936
Looks like Cheeky's bike from Krazy magazine.

Thats cool AF. also very like the ones I used to draw in maths class. Because I am an outlaw I would buy it and just ride it with no reg or wof. Fuck you copper!! catch me if you can!

[Drew]

I'm only posting this as HDC said he spent his school years doodling choppers on his exercise books. I imagine this qualifies. Where does one get a seat like that?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/harley-davidson/listing/3953881936
Looks like Cheeky's bike from Krazy magazine.

That's fucking cool. I'd bid if I hadn't just spent all my money on a house

11yr old dirtbike. That's pretty spendy.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/yamaha/listing/3952807527

Nearly bought one of those new, for that same money I think.

[husaberg]

11yr old dirtbike. That's pretty spendy.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/yamaha/listing/3952807527

Its seems pretty spendy but, The find road legal ones tend to hold their value plus or because its on the Lams list as well.

My son made money on his WR250R. Which is the tame road one that has nothing in common with the YZ's. That is a real XL style Trail bike. But they were the same for donkeys years So KM and extras like big tanks is more important than year.

I just looked and that model has the 2012 YZ250F frame YZ450F based engine just slightly detuned with lights indicators and WR gearbox.

[F5 Dave]

Thats cool AF. also very like the ones I used to draw in maths class. Because I am an outlaw I would buy it and just ride it with no reg or wof. Fuck you copper!! catch me if you can!

Copper sticks leg out. Chopper disintegrates. HDC scrubbed with Iodene to get the gravel out of his bare limbs, cuffed and stuffed into a cell with Bubba.

So desired result for all involved. :love:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Copper sticks leg out. Chopper disintegrates. HDC scrubbed with Iodene to get the gravel out of his bare limbs, cuffed and stuffed into a cell with Bubba.

So desired result for all involved. :love:

I will be wearing a half face helmet and a denim vest and jeans (bare chest, of course) and steelcap boots. And those golf gloves. Boooorn to be wiiiiiiiiiiiiild.

[Stylo]

Straight out of the late 1960's

Hope he gets his money for the bike. I would say early '70's. Classic chopper.

That's pretty cool. Just me.

[george formby]

This TY could be well worth keeping an eye on.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/yamaha/listing/3963474459

His other listings are well worth a look, too.

[Beekeeper]

I'm only posting this as HDC said he spent his school years doodling choppers on his exercise books. I imagine this qualifies. Where does one get a seat like that?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/harley-davidson/listing/3953881936
Looks like Cheeky's bike from Krazy magazine.

suspension is for losers

[F5 Dave]

As are mirrors, indicators, mudguards and air cleaners. Apparently.

[F5 Dave]

Rusty 20yr old dirtbike left outside to rot. 9k anyone?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3968189700

[F5 Dave]

Another CB with bits taken off it, a silly seat and scary AF tyres on it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3966685423

Only done 65km since done. Long enough to find out he doesn't like it.

At least they've cleaned up the engine nicely.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Another CB with bits taken off it, a silly seat and scary AF tyres on it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3966685423

Only done 65km since done. Long enough to find out he doesn't like it.

At least they've cleaned up the engine nicely.

Its way better than most of the shit that people butcher. If it had some changes to improve rideability (tyres being the first) it might be fun. but not $25k fun.

[Beekeeper]

Another CB with bits taken off it, a silly seat and scary AF tyres on it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3966685423

Only done 65km since done. Long enough to find out he doesn't like it.

At least they've cleaned up the engine nicely.

One mans sore arse is another mans dream or vice versa

[pete376403]

Another CB with bits taken off it, a silly seat and scary AF tyres on it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3966685423

Only done 65km since done. Long enough to find out he doesn't like it.

At least they've cleaned up the engine nicely.
Would like to know the reasoning behind the balloon tyres. Is it going to be ridden in sand? Used for ploughing?

[HenryDorsetCase]

In fairness he does say in his ad that it is now on Pirellis not the firestones.

[F5 Dave]

Actually I didn't see that bit.

So he got rid of the dangerous tyres, put on new ones but decided it was still shit, so he had to sell it?

I mean 65km! That's get it home, back to bike shop for tyres, home again and push it outside to take some Trademe pictures. :crazy:

[Kickaha]

Wonder if it has cert for the frame mods, I think they are needed if you alter the frame ?

[dangerous]

Hahahaha.... fuck me, and to think I sold 3 bikes in good nick and a 4th engine for $400... what was I thinking...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3971305684

[Beekeeper]

Hahahaha.... fuck me, and to think I sold 3 bikes in good nick and a 4th engine for $400... what was I thinking...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3971305684


That you didnt have the skillset to install a banana seat and apehangers?

[F5 Dave]

Jezuz that pile of rusty junk is just a liability and tip run or three.

That's without trying to find engine parts and supercession bits, not that they helped.

[husaberg]

Didn't Drews Bro have a wet patch for these.....

[F5 Dave]

Yeah Jimmy, I was talking to him a while back and I think he said he still had one. Oddly I was in another Jimmy's garage a couple of months back and he had been doing engine for some poor soul. Must be something in the water.

[Laava]

Hahahaha.... fuck me, and to think I sold 3 bikes in good nick and a 4th engine for $400... what was I thinking...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3971305684
I am pretty sure these photos were taken by a scuba diver. He musta pulled all the kelp to one side.

[Drew]

Didn't Drews Bro have a wet patch for these.....

Yep. I bought him a couple for his birthday once.
His goal was to have the last running MVX in the world. He must be getting close.

[dangerous]

That's without trying to find engine parts and supercession bits, not that they helped.

thing is... you can replace the frount two pistons... but the rear is a odd ball at twice the weight, no such thing...

[F5 Dave]

There was a solid gungeon pin version as well. Why the hell they made it try balance like that beggars belief.

[Drew]

There was a solid gungeon pin version as well. Why the hell they made it try balance like that beggars belief.

None of it makes any sense. They fire two front pots together, then the rear.

[Kickaha]

Didn't Drews Bro have a wet patch for these.....

Yeah I collected one for him and had it here a for a few days, had a brief attempt at getting it to go but lot interest pretty quickly, I think the cylinder were cast iron rather than alloy ? I know there was something strange about it

[husaberg]

Yep. I bought him a couple for his birthday once.
His goal was to have the last running MVX in the world. He must be getting close.
To having his going? or being close to the last one running?
It was in theory kind of a reverse RS500/NS500 racer like Freddies but fredies had a balancer and still vibrated. Badly enough that they kept having to make the alloy frames stronger and heavier until thy lost most of the weight advantages of the tripple vs the 4.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=303366&d=1413015583
here at the inside pics of the NS RS500
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=4861
it was reversed as roadbikes need airbox's.

Yes iron cylinders iron cylinder covers. VT250 gearbox but so does a CBR250 4. :psst:
It was a model only nz and Japan plus maybe a few other countries got.
Lozza talked about doing one with 3 CR80 cylinder reed cylinders
No idea if they fit but appropriate CR125 ones go straight onto NS400's.


the MVX was in practice smooth.
For the lazy just here
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Its balance two up one down and is at a full 90's unlike the NS500 that was a conventional 120 firing but different offset on account of the wider V 118 degrees. As it had a but a wider angle for more room for the reeds.
The idea being that it has no rocking couple with this set up.


Honda loves doing odd engineering some to keep its designers fresh.
Hence the odd solutions and things that are not always the easiest solutions ie single cranks bridged ex V5 sticking to reed valves in GP odd ecentric pin in v twins like the bros, atac NR500, big bang.
The MVX is in essence a "big bang" as they fire everything in 90 degrees.
pretty sure Honda balance the V5 the same way

[F5 Dave]

Ages ago we looked at one to see if it was worth grafting onto an MB100 or 50. No it wasn't. Iron bore with an iron head bolted on and an ally cover I believe over the top of the head. Nothing special and not tolerant of a bigbore or porting, being iron. Pity as there were lots of donor barrels at the time.

[F5 Dave]

Well here's a failure to really think it through


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3975037237

I kinda like it on first pass. The pipes are a stunning, if styling based, success of the look. The paint and the fact it is actually LVV apparently is aiding the cause.

But, jeez. You just can't get past the incongruity of the front vs the rear end. They are clearly from different eras and neither matches the middle. And as a shaft drive you can't fix it. Well, not in a shed.

Call me mean, but that sort of thing is going to grate on you. If he'd started with a TR1 chain drive could have enabled say spoked wheels both ends and right way up forks. That would have made this bike much more complete and stunning. . . If disabled with a mediocre engine, it could be enough.

[F5 Dave]

Oh fuck me. I've never perused the cruiser section of TM. But every one is worse than before . Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Here's about listing 6. I had to stop. How hard would people larf at you?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/suzuki/listing/3971005556

Jesus it does get worse. Next one down

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/3966201577

[Grumph]

Well here's a failure to really think it through


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3975037237

I kinda like it on first pass. The pipes are a stunning, if styling based, success of the look. The paint and the fact it is actually LVV apparently is aiding the cause.

But, jeez. You just can't get past the incongruity of the front vs the rear end. They are clearly from different eras and neither matches the middle. And as a shaft drive you can't fix it. Well, not in a shed.

Call me mean, but that sort of thing is going to grate on you. If he'd started with a TR1 chain drive could have enabled say spoked wheels both ends and right way up forks. That would have made this bike much more complete and stunning. . . If disabled with a mediocre engine, it could be enough.

Pretty much agree. The 750 is the worst engine of that range too.

[husaberg]

Well here's a failure to really think it through


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3975037237

I kinda like it on first pass. The pipes are a stunning, if styling based, success of the look. The paint and the fact it is actually LVV apparently is aiding the cause.

But, jeez. You just can't get past the incongruity of the front vs the rear end. They are clearly from different eras and neither matches the middle. And as a shaft drive you can't fix it. Well, not in a shed.

Call me mean, but that sort of thing is going to grate on you. If he'd started with a TR1 chain drive could have enabled say spoked wheels both ends and right way up forks. That would have made this bike much more complete and stunning. . . If disabled with a mediocre engine, it could be enough.


Pretty much agree. The 750 is the worst engine of that range too.
the font pipe is fine but why the f is the rear so long he could have joind it far further ahead witout the loop?
the forks he could use FZR or TZR or a few models of FJ and still used RWA forks and 320mm discs and those blue spots
But seen far worse.

I really should be working on something else.....

i love the irony of altering a Yamaha cruiser styled after Harley cruiser with Harley road racer styling especially as the harley road racer was made obsolete by little Yamaha road racers....

[F5 Dave]

Well I don't think you'll be worrying Kar Lee, but yeah that's kinda where I was going with that.

[husaberg]

Well I don't think you'll be worrying Kar Lee, but yeah that's kinda where I was going with that.

They just have flasher graphics, bigger budgets better designers, glossier paper, more talent and probably better coffee.

Yet, in spite of their obvious flaws I like this one they did of a SV650.
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[jellywrestler]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/3966201577

worth the money for the sidestand alone, although clearly it needs a grown up to operate it.

[onearmedbandit]

That SV Supermoto design is cool as fuck.

[HenryDorsetCase]

worth the money for the sidestand alone, although clearly it needs a grown up to operate it.

compression is 5.5 to 1 so not so bad to kick.....

[F5 Dave]

Same sidestand as my kids bmx. But I'd be more concerned if that fell on the floor. The bmx I mean. The Harley looks like several interfaces could only improve it..

[Beekeeper]

Well here's a failure to really think it through


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3975037237

I kinda like it on first pass. The pipes are a stunning, if styling based, success of the look. The paint and the fact it is actually LVV apparently is aiding the cause.

But, jeez. You just can't get past the incongruity of the front vs the rear end. They are clearly from different eras and neither matches the middle. And as a shaft drive you can't fix it. Well, not in a shed.

Call me mean, but that sort of thing is going to grate on you. If he'd started with a TR1 chain drive could have enabled say spoked wheels both ends and right way up forks. That would have made this bike much more complete and stunning. . . If disabled with a mediocre engine, it could be enough.

He is the definition of an optimistic seller, the other guy did 65k's while this rooster is taking the piss at 165k's. It nearly up for a rebuild

[F5 Dave]

Really just for the handlebars :laugh:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3984852384

Could do with a rainy weekend and 4 tubes of solvo to clean the engine up. Never seen that silver, but American market, so?

[F5 Dave]

Makes a Harley look like a more attractive option. Almost. Jeez some poor sap is asking to see it!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3982811377

Needs cleansing with fire.

[dangerous]

Makes a Harley look like a more attractive option. Almost. Jeez some poor sap is asking to see it!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3982811377

Needs cleansing with fire.

ohhhh Dave... this is the 650 model with the jap market 400... great bkes out run a harley anyday, I dont like customs but allways thought this looked good

[husaberg]

Makes a Harley look like a more attractive option. Almost. Jeez some poor sap is asking to see it!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3982811377

Needs cleansing with fire.

At that stage Honda were locking in a epioc do or die battle for market domination with Yamaha
No excuses but there were so many ugly models from both then.
part of the appeal of a plastic maggot was its ugliness, but shit custom takes it to a new level.

[sugilite]

Really just for the handlebars :laugh:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3984852384

Could do with a rainy weekend and 4 tubes of solvo to clean the engine up. Never seen that silver, but American market, so?

The lengths some people go to in order to avoid buying underarm deodorant. The underarm dreadlocks would be a hit with the chicks though.

[pritch]

Really just for the handlebars :laugh:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3984852384

Could do with a rainy weekend and 4 tubes of solvo to clean the engine up. Never seen that silver, but American market, so?

"All lights work", but does the headlight dip left or right?

[neels]

Reserve is decidedly reasonable....but mostly amazed by the bars, the instruments, and the scale of that fairing.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/suzuki/listing/3990693836

[F5 Dave]

God!, that must be a Vetter windjammer or similar. But why are the bars rolled back like that. Fuckin odd! As an ex GS1100G owner (the unfaired version but with a screen fitted) that could only be a super weird position.

I hate people who call their wife 'Mum'. Jezuz fuck, how do you root them ? Oh Mum, oh Mum, I think I'm coming. Don't worry dear, mummy will wipe it up.

Just wrong on so many levels.

'Who's your Daddy??'

Erm, it's complicated ��.

[jellywrestler]

Reserve is decidedly reasonable....but mostly amazed by the bars, the instruments, and the scale of that fairing.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/suzuki/listing/3990693836

whats differnt about peoples feet that the need pegs that size?

[pete376403]

All that plastic is a factory GK fairing, not a Vetter. I'ts huge and looks odd from the outside, but from behind, in the rain and cold, it's pretty good. I have ridden mine is pissing down rain on the West Coast in winter, and only got wet below my knees. Weighs a metric tonne as well, but frame mounted so doesn't affect steering too much. Looks a little better when the factory bags and topbox are installed. I have a complete GK in the shed, along with a standard G.

[husaberg]

Well i will be buggered.
https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1982/9/1/suzuki-gs1100gk

[pete376403]

I believe the 1100GK was an interim model (AKA parts bin special) that was released because the V4 Cavalcade development was taking too long and Suzuki needed something to compete with the 'Wing, Venture Royale and Concours.
I got my one inn 1991, was sitting unloved and unwanted out the back of WMCC. Has done at least 16 Brass Monkeys , a few Cold Kiwis and others, always got me home and other than consumables, has cost me a pair of Koni shocks, a gasket set and piston rings, cam chain and a final drive ring gear.

[F5 Dave]

Golly I thought I knew what a GK looked like, after the Smith test in ACMN. That was funny.

Did 17 kiwis in a row, but only 6 Brass. 6 of the kiwis were on an RG50, despite the GS11 in the garage if that counts as making it an adventure on SH1. Or otherwise off beat track.

[Laava]

Yikes! Not a bike, but barely a car either! Straight outta Wacky Races!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/nissan/silvia/listing/3872189413?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[onearmedbandit]

There's a couple of these in ChCh too.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yikes! Not a bike, but barely a car either! Straight outta Wacky Races!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/nissan/silvia/listing/3872189413?bof=S2E6Ch8I

Cheapest S13 you can get. It would make a bitchin drift car.....

[jim.cox]

Yikes! Not a bike, but barely a car either! Straight outta Wacky Races!


Also from that same TV show

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/other/other/listing/3988945013

[Stylo]

Also from that same TV show

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/other/other/listing/3988945013

That's interesting.

[jellywrestler]

That's interesting.

dangerously gutless though

[F5 Dave]

Penelope Pitstop wasn't it? She was a hot bitch. :innocent:

[pritch]

Hmmm he only wants $18,000 but he's so keen to sell it he has taken one whole photograph.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4010840799

[dangerous]

Hmmm he only wants $18,000 but he's so keen to sell it he has taken one whole photograph.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4010840799

no such thing as a limited edition... and shit job on the muffler repair...

[F5 Dave]

If he could read the sidecover he would be able to correctly identify the model instead of writing CBF. Limited edition means some owner stuck on that fairing and sprayed it the closest colour they could find in a rattle can.

Yeah C- for effort. At least its outside and an ok quality picture.

For that sort of money youd want less kms and original not fucked with 'my first toothpaste welder seams' and why at that angle mufflers?

Apart from that looks pretty original so a good start. But that model isn't super collectible and silver/blue stripes would be the choice for Freddie bonus points.

[F5 Dave]

Ohh here's a nice desirable scooter. And they painted it .

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4004267197

All of it. Shock absorbers, axles, nuts, you name it.

[F5 Dave]

Lord Below. He bought this as a Passion project he says.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4008955006

Passion for oxidisation maybe. :crazy:


Do you reckon the rear wheel turns?
Says he realised he doesn't have the skillset. No shit!

[Grumph]

Ohh here's a nice desirable scooter. And they painted it .

All of it. Shock absorbers, axles, nuts, you name it.

I suspect it was actually dipped. Where do you get those tyres ? Local ag machinery supply co ?

[F5 Dave]

Wheelbarrows r us.

[husaberg]

I suspect it was actually dipped. Where do you get those tyres ? Local ag machinery supply co ?

Funny enough my old man had most of a mountain goat and a Yamaha Chappy i think this dude mixed both together

[HenryDorsetCase]

Lord Below. He bought this as a Passion project he says.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4008955006

Passion for oxidisation maybe. :crazy:


Do you reckon the rear wheel turns?
Says he realised he doesn't have the skillset. No shit!

I totally get the "know your limits" thing but even I can oil a fucking chain. Often with bonus oil on floor and tyre. MORE IS BETTER.

[george formby]

Lord Below. He bought this as a Passion project he says.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4008955006

Passion for oxidisation maybe. :crazy:


Do you reckon the rear wheel turns?
Says he realised he doesn't have the skillset. No shit!

I suspect the new Falsher Relay and Keyster Screw will give it the extra power needed to spin the drive bars.

[dangerous]

ohhhh dear... what we have here is, well... a worthless pile of shit, unless you want a poked 77 engine or a old yamy tank...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3997300051

[F5 Dave]

Jesus, I almost got a semi on with YDS3. Wot the fuk! Shitty *onda foul stroke get the fuk out of here.

[husaberg]

Jesus, I almost got a semi on with YDS3. Wot the fuk! Shitty *roundabout foul stroke get the fuk out of here.

if you promise not to send pictures your semi i will sell you a original YDS3.

[Beekeeper]

Lord Below. He bought this as a Passion project he says.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4008955006

Passion for oxidisation maybe. :crazy:


Do you reckon the rear wheel turns?
Says he realised he doesn't have the skillset. No shit!

Quite a looker

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1927210982.jpg

[Beekeeper]

ohhhh dear... what we have here is, well... a worthless pile of shit, unless you want a poked 77 engine or a old yamy tank...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3997300051

He is convinced this is the money shot so why not post it 3 times?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1924366879.jpg

[Laava]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/suzuki/listing/3972590579?bof=S2E6Ch8I
although interesting, it is about 4k overpriced and pretty much only ever going to be good for a track bike…

[neels]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/suzuki/listing/3972590579?bof=S2E6Ch8I
although interesting, it is about 4k overpriced and pretty much only ever going to be good for a track bike…
Another one that's got to the end of what some people seem to find the enjoyable part of these projects, shopping for shiny parts, then realised it's going to be hard and require some actual skill to make it into something useful.

[neels]

He is convinced this is the money shot so why not post it 3 times?

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1924366879.jpg
It would be interesting to know if it ever ran like that, or if it's just someones attempt at a bodge from years back that got shoved in the back of the shed.

One thing that does intrigue me though looking at the photos, when did the customary side for a chain on a motorcycle swap from right to left?

[husaberg]

It would be interesting to know if it ever ran like that, or if it's just someones attempt at a bodge from years back that got shoved in the back of the shed.

One thing that does intrigue me though looking at the photos, when did the customary side for a chain on a motorcycle swap from right to left?

after the cb22/77. the Cb350 etc were conventional for Honda they also played with it on the other side arround 81-82 on the cr125 and i think 250/450 Hondas.
On the dreams they has a massive front brake and a 2ls rear in that era but only useful std on a Aemacchi or Vincent or Hardly.
plenty of euro bikes ran right side drive right up until the last of the real husabergs and husky's.
Late triumphs and Norton run the right side drive so they can retain a old looking primary and timing side covers (pommy bike ran inboard countershaft sprokets behind the clutch. No one would put up with that now.

That bike is simply a YDS3 frame hacked and a Honda put in. it was rego'ed like that by the look of it. but they never care about the engine only the frame.

[Laava]

It would be interesting to know if it ever ran like that, or if it's just someones attempt at a bodge from years back that got shoved in the back of the shed.

One thing that does intrigue me though looking at the photos, when did the customary side for a chain on a motorcycle swap from right to left?
That motor was essentially the one that Laverda copied with their 750 and they also had the chain RHS as well as gear lever

[F5 Dave]

My Beta Trials bike is RH chain drive and left kickstarter. Strangely my GG Trials is conveniently equipped but the stand is on the right. and well hidden under the swingarm. Takes a while to work out which side to kick, which side to lube, and which side to dexterously flick your toe under the stand.

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/suzuki/listing/3972590579?bof=S2E6Ch8I
although interesting, it is about 4k overpriced and pretty much only ever going to be good for a track bike…

Not sure interesting is the right classification. Why advertise it as hardly suzuki? Which part is the hardly? Is it a Ruc savage frame? Not sure what that is. The Buel front end just limits your braking options.

The 1200 engine, if sound, is the prime part on it.

[husaberg]

Not sure interesting is the right classification. Why advertise it as hardly suzuki? Which part is the hardly? Is it a Ruc savage frame? Not sure what that is. The Buel front end just limits your braking options.

The 1200 engine, if sound, is the prime part on it.

There was a bike advertised previously maybe same bike on TM
Hard up choppers savage frame.
https://www.gasolineallyspeedshop.co.uk/product-page/hard-up-choppers-savage-caf%C3%A9-racer-frame-for-gsxr750-1100-and-bandit-600-1200
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184392049438
Here is what its meant to look like.
352516

[F5 Dave]

How do people let bikes get in this state and then how do they try sell them as viable for $1k reserve?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4037593741

Most bits missing of unpopular Jap import 250. Ps will need complete re-vin and on top of that LVV certificate for drum brake conversion. Which it might not pass.

At best a $300 field bike for the kids to fall off and set on fire when they discover drinking.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/porsche/911/listing/3969881006


The guy in the comments who says "it would be $200k to restore" is not far off I reckon. The more you look the more there is to see. If what you want to see is the sky and the grass outside the car without looking thru the windows.

[HenryDorsetCase]

How do people let bikes get in this state and then how do they try sell them as viable for $1k reserve?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4037593741

Most bits missing of unpopular Jap import 250. Ps will need complete re-vin and on top of that LVV certificate for drum brake conversion. Which it might not pass.

At best a $300 field bike for the kids to fall off and set on fire when they discover drinking.

when did we go away from backwards brake and clutch levers. They're kinda cool.

[Grumph]

when did we go away from backwards brake and clutch levers. They're kinda cool.


About 1930. They're cool until you have to replace a broken cable.

[F5 Dave]

Jesus I looked at the 250 on a bigger screen than my phone and it's worse than I thought.

As for the 911, well Binky required less work. And GADZOOKS! Looks like the engine is missing.

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/porsche/911/listing/3969881006


The guy in the comments who says "it would be $200k to restore" is not far off I reckon. The more you look the more there is to see. If what you want to see is the sky and the grass outside the car without looking thru the windows.

golly the salt was not kind.....

[HenryDorsetCase]

golly the salt was not kind.....

Amazing eh!?

I want to see it come out of the dip tank - I reckon it would look like lace.

[husaberg]

Amazing eh!?

I want to see it come out of the dip tank - I reckon it would look like lace.

That needs full scale electrolysis.
Anyone that has followed project crusty will see that's a "long term Project"

[Laava]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/porsche/911/listing/3969881006


The guy in the comments who says "it would be $200k to restore" is not far off I reckon. The more you look the more there is to see. If what you want to see is the sky and the grass outside the car without looking thru the windows.
This one is arguably in better nick…
https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/131487238/missing-rare-supercar-pulled-out-of-river-20-years-later

[jellywrestler]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/porsche/911/listing/3969881006


The guy in the comments who says "it would be $200k to restore" is not far off I reckon.
depends of course whther you farmed it all out or did it yourself.
a lot of people seem to value their hobby time at retail trademens rates when they are doing their projects it seems

[F5 Dave]

I'm not sure how much you could 'do yourself ' on that Porch unless you happened to own the tooling to press out entire chassis and panel sections. All of them.
Looking at the holes in the floors I can't imagine any of the metal is thick enough to weld onto.

[husaberg]

This one is arguably in better nick…
https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/131487238/missing-rare-supercar-pulled-out-of-river-20-years-later

Weren't NSX's all auminium Alloy?


I'm not sure how much you could 'do yourself ' on that Porch unless you happened to own the tooling to press out entire chassis and panel sections. All of them.
Looking at the holes in the floors I can't imagine any of the metal is thick enough to weld onto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCR_2TFL_e0

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm not sure how much you could 'do yourself ' on that Porch unless you happened to own the tooling to press out entire chassis and panel sections. All of them.
Looking at the holes in the floors I can't imagine any of the metal is thick enough to weld onto.

I follow a youtube channel called Brandon's bus, and the guy is restoring a VW Beetle bus that was in similar condition to that Porsche. He started with the chassis, and is working up and out from that. It is very much a labour of love but the skillset on display is also mind boggling. Plus of course you need a dry, well lit workshop with at least some tools. OK a lot of tools.

[F5 Dave]

And an excess of time and energy. A young man desiring a car like that at the time would be 70 now.

Ooh I'll just order engine rebuild parts required. Oops, there goes what I was going to be retired on.

[F5 Dave]

Well here's something in much better condition

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4040648910

But it's still a $7000 SR250. :nya: No expense spared must be a fairly Liberal use of the expression. Lest the $70 'slip-off' muffler put any doubts in your mind.

100% legal it sez. But comes with a muffler, mirrors, guard etc (not fitted ) needed to pass a wof. Wonder if the cop will be so lenient in that approach whilst standing at the side of the road as you look at your boots? ?

[Laava]

That is a boring bike. And, it will be shit to ride I bet. Do it for yourself if that is what you want but don't expect it to sell for huge money…

[dangerous]

Well here's something in much better condition

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4040648910

But it's still a $7000 SR250. :nya: No expense spared must be a fairly Liberal use of the expression. Lest the $70 'slip-off' muffler put any doubts in your mind.

100% legal it sez. But comes with a muffler, mirrors, guard etc (not fitted ) needed to pass a wof. Wonder if the cop will be so lenient in that approach whilst standing at the side of the road as you look at your boots? ?

7 grand... fuckwits got rocks in the head...

[dangerous]

FFS... have you polished it or not??? maybe just wanked over it cos that price is fucked mate...

PS dont get me wrong I love these things...
PPS... its a 1980
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4043352189

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4043235289

How cool is this??

[neels]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4043235289

how cool is this??
skeletor....

[F5 Dave]

FFS... have you polished it or not??? maybe just wanked over it cos that price is fucked mate...

PS dont get me wrong I love these things...
PPS... its a 1980
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4043352189
He's been polishing something. :msn-wink:

Bit of dedication to get the crankcase looking that pristine. Far more effort than the heaviest 500cc Twin ever made deserves.

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4043235289

How cool is this??
At first blush I thought that effect was done with paint and I thought, kewl man. Not as keen on grinder finishes esp will rust. But best cruiser on Trademe ever.

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4043235289

How cool is this??
I do not like choppers but that very neat especially the frame alterations and the tank.

[dangerous]

WOW... what a fucking Gem alright... LMFAO
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4051414785

[F5 Dave]

And like Gems look like they have been dug up from a long stay underground.


Ohh, ok who's brave enough to ask that in the questions?

[dangerous]

And like Gems look like they have been dug up from a long stay underground.


Ohh, ok who's brave enough to ask that in the questions?

LOL... I will, I sold 3 with 4 engines 15years ago for 400 bucks... clean and tidish.. wish Id kept em fuck it LOL

[F5 Dave]

Why? Aren't worth the effort finding soon to explode engine and chassis parts. You'd just have a brown flakey pile of metal.

[dangerous]

Why? Aren't worth the effort finding soon to explode engine and chassis parts. You'd just have a brown flakey pile of metal.

cos they would make the coolest 3 pot... pot plant holders in the garden art section...

[Laava]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/yamaha/listing/4054084661?bof=S2E6Ch8I
This guy has no idea what it is worth or how much effort it would take to get it on the road. Would be way better bike in it's original frame, if that was still available. Is the usual half arsed effort, doing all the easy stuff before running out of time, dedication and inspiration. You need to be determined to do a project like this from the get go.

[F5 Dave]

I remember my Grandad saying he wrecked his back riding old Indian motorcycles. Why the hell would you want to build, let alone ride a hardtail?

And being SLS, it shouldn't really matter, but that front brake mounted backwards just looks Gumby.

[jellywrestler]

I remember my Grandad saying he wrecked his back riding old Indian motorcycles. Why the hell would you want to build, let alone ride a hardtail?

And being SLS, it shouldn't really matter, but that front brake mounted backwards just looks Gumby.

Indians had rear suspension around 1912, it was likely an army indian which they didn't have rear suspension but did have a pair of large springs on the seat to while they were hardtail not like the silly stuff we see without any movement in the seat.
Can't see any fun in riding that sort of thing at all.

[husaberg]

Indians had rear suspension around 1912, it was likely an army indian which they didn't have rear suspension but did have a pair of large springs on the seat to while they were hardtail not like the silly stuff we see without any movement in the seat.
Can't see any fun in riding that sort of thing at all.

Not sure re the chiefs and other but pretty sure the 20's scouts never had any rear suspension just leaf sprung front?
https://www.yesterdays.nl/site/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Indian-1926-Scout-MM-1.jpg
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https://d3h6k4kfl8m9p0.cloudfront.net/stories/gwi722uihJF.UQ.qiG8SWg.jpg
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https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/lv0119/lv0119-348033/images/i6c9714-1542404111045@2x.jpg?1548189505000
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Wow thanks google I never heard of a scout pony i really like it.:love:


This cool little 1937 Indian Scout Pony is a very rare machine and a great factory special. It was created as a low-cost model during the Great Depression after Indian was sold to the DuPonts. To economize, Indian streamlined production by sharing parts across the model range and built less-expensive models to sell in hard times, including the Scout Pony introduced in 1932. It used a 30.5 CI (500cc) side-valve V-twin motor in the frame, forks and sheet metal of the single-cylinder 350cc Prince model, with the single’s clutch and gearbox as well. Far from looking cheap or cobbled up, the Scout Pony turned out to be a beautiful little bike. It had a very compact look with the V-twin motor in the single’s light frame, and it was priced at $225, making it the cheapest American V-twin on the marke

[jellywrestler]

Not sure re the chiefs and other but pretty sure the 20's scouts never had any rear suspension just leaf sprung front?
https://www.yesterdays.nl/site/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Indian-1926-Scout-MM-1.jpg
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https://d3h6k4kfl8m9p0.cloudfront.net/stories/gwi722uihJF.UQ.qiG8SWg.jpg
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https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/lv0119/lv0119-348033/images/i6c9714-1542404111045@2x.jpg?1548189505000
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Wow thanks google I never heard of a scout pony i really like it.:love:

20's chiefs were similar to the scouts, no rear suspension, it was the hedstoms and power plus that had it early. either way they had generously sprung seats

[pritch]

Guy I knew owned a Vincent Grey Flash in his day. It had rudimentary rear suspension of a sort, but he complained that it was murder riding home with lover's balls.

[F5 Dave]

Well my Grandad isn't around to ask anymore but it was nice to know there was some family motorcycle connection (mothers side). My Dad wanted to but a BSA as a student but was petitioned out of it by his sister convincing his mother against it. Hadn't thought about that for many years.

[jellywrestler]

Guy I knew owned a Vincent Grey Flash in his day. It had rudimentary rear suspension of a sort, but he complained that it was murder riding home with lover's balls.

the grey flash shared the same set up as the big twins, the seat front was joined to the back of the fuel tank and the rear pretty much to the rear axle pivot, a few inches up the swing arm. it meant the passenger got far less suspension than the rider and the whole bike sort of hinged in the middle. When I brought my Vincent that was the bit i was most concerned with, how would it feel with the seat moving when going over bumps, it was barely noticeable. I put a modern damper in there and it was nice suspension for it's age

[dangerous]

ohhh fuck me reqlly? seller must have rocks in the head they were only 4k new... well I paid that with 2000k on it...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4059514710

[jellywrestler]

ohhh fuck me reqlly? seller must have rocks in the head they were only 4k new... well I paid that with 2000k on it...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4059514710

yeah but the euro is sort after far more than the early models, don't forget, next year it's dirt cheap rego, that's a factor some people are taking note of nowadsy.

[pritch]

ohhh fuck me reqlly? seller must have rocks in the head they were only 4k new... well I paid that with 2000k on it...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4059514710

The seller is Leroy Brown?

"Bad bad Leroy Brown
Baddest man in the whole damn town
Badder than old King Kong
Meaner than a junkyard dog"

Jim Croce, 1973

Dunno if I'd buy a bike off Leroy...

[YellowDog]

ohhh fuck me reqlly? seller must have rocks in the head they were only 4k new... well I paid that with 2000k on it...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4059514710

So many better rides than that around for that sort of money. Like this W800 :yes:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/3991872850

[Black Knight]

That CX Euro is very tidy for the mileage-even still has original seat-But not 8K,s worth.

[jellywrestler]

So many better rides than that around for that sort of money. Like this W800 :yes:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/3991872850

maybe the value is associated with the rarity of a bike thats another 20 years older? There's a lot of people who cut their teeth on honda cervix's

[dangerous]

maybe the value is associated with the rarity of a bike thats another 20 years older? There's a lot of people who cut their teeth on honda cervix's

hey I love the CX had 7 of em one twice... but 8K fuck off think hes trying to get back his coin he lost replacing cam chains LOL

[F5 Dave]

Much as I am fond of CXs. . snigger. . .bibpbib. BWAAAAAAAA :lol::lol::lol:

Sorry, I can't continue.

[dangerous]

Much as I am fond of CXs. . snigger. . .bibpbib. BWAAAAAAAA :lol::lol::lol:

Sorry, I can't continue.
yeah well... your not worthy nor skilled enough LOL :woohoo:

[F5 Dave]

I see you simply progressed to the aircooled version.

[dangerous]

I see you simply progressed to the aircooled version.

but with good suspension and less HP per ltr :woohoo:

[F5 Dave]

Sad and tired trailbike, painted with a house brush by the looks.

Oh. "Good condition for an ex army bike" that's like saying low mileage for a courier.

4 grand? Oh sure, where do I sign?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4059557971?bof=ELigTbhK

[F5 Dave]

Look at this clown mobile. How super ghey would you have to be to be seen on this? https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/harley-davidson/listing/4056383701

And they think it is worth twice this?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/norton/listing/4057836291

Ok not a pearler, but honest add and far better looking. And every other measure.

Well maybe not reliability. But who cares if a Hardley breaks down? Who cares if it goes?

[F5 Dave]

What a shiney machine . Except it has wrong paint, guard, headlight and I'm not even an anorak.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4055264809

[F5 Dave]

Lordy I thought the Hardley was ghey, but this would have Posy Parker protesting against you.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4048392786

I mean what sort of chap thinks, "wow. That would make Adrian think I'm virile "

[HenryDorsetCase]

But who cares if a Hardley breaks down? Who cares if it goes?

You're confusing Hardley-world with motorcycling. People who want Hardleys dont care about motorcycles. and whether it is broken down or running matters naught when parked up outside the "biker" bar. Everything I know about this "lifestyle" (there's a clue) I learned from movies.

Top "biker" movies:

Torque (starring NZs own Martin Henderson)
Harley Davidon and the Marlboro Man - genre classic
Hot Shots (because Charlie Sheens character is called Topper Harley
Wild Hogs - never a more true representation of "biker lyf"