Optimistic sellers

[jellywrestler]

I saw those as I was lying on the showroom floor counting the spokes...only 36....not proper Briddish 40.:lol::

some of the old yank bikes had 36 and 40 on differnt wheels, fucks with peoples heads these days trying to find out what was the right wheel.

[AllanB]

some of the old yank bikes had 36 and 40 on differnt wheels, fucks with peoples heads these days trying to find out what was the right wheel.


Probably whatever was closest on the shelf on a Friday.

[husaberg]

some of the old yank bikes had 36 and 40 on differnt wheels, fucks with peoples heads these days trying to find out what was the right wheel.

Bsa restorers agrue over if the borrani or Dunlop rims are correct, when both can be.
USA BSA models can be nothing like the catalog pictures.
But i think Ducati takes the cake for changing bits brake calipers and numerous other stuff during production runs.
I have a feeling the CB750 Honda may have changed from 40 to 36 spokes during its run.

[F5 Dave]

Really? I thought it ws only Kawkasaki that did fourty spokes.

[husaberg]

Really? I thought it ws only Kawkasaki that did fourty spokes.

https://www.2fastmoto.com/Honda-18-Rear-Wheel-Rim-40-Spoke-and-Nipple-Kit-Zinc-Plated-CB750K-SOHC-1969-76_p_1050.html
https://www.2fastmoto.com/Honda-19-Front-Wheel-Rim-40-Spoke-and-Nipple-Kit-Zinc-Plated-CB-750-550-500-450_p_1049.html


Smaller bikes
https://www.2fastmoto.com/Honda-18-Rear-Wheel-Rim-36-Spoke-and-Nipple-Kit-Zinc-Plated-CB-CL-CJ-350-360_p_1048.html


Honda used to run 32 spoke rear wheels on the bigger MX bikes.
But most of the 65 and 85 bikes were also 28 and 32 spokes. cant remember what was at what end.

Pretty sure the Honda cub was 32 spoke both ends and it saved them millions of dollars to do this compared to 36 spoke as the legend goes.

[F5 Dave]

Jesus! I'm going to forget this post and make life simple.

[husaberg]

I am still looking for a 2.5X17 36 hole alloy rim to finish my Yamaha front end.
I still need a SRX250 or SDR200 Front mudguard also.

[jasonu]

Jesus! I'm going to forget this post and make life simple.

He's an expert on everything in the world.

[pete376403]

Bsa restorers agrue over if the borrani or Dunlop rims are correct, when both can be.
USA BSA models can be nothing like the catalog pictures.
But i think Ducati takes the cake for changing bits brake calipers and numerous other stuff during production runs.
I have a feeling the CB750 Honda may have changed from 40 to 36 spokes during its run.

CB750 front rim (dont know which model) was 36. I had trouble finding a 19" 36 holer to replace the rear rim on my speedway Jawa and a local bike shop* was able to use a Honda item.

* back in the day when Upper Hutt had three seperate motorcycle shops

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2039948788.htm?rsqid=91b7d955d7e947408d1348eb8b55a 2c3-003

I love these. Its the hoover tubes.

but if it is a race bike why does it have a side stand?


The better buy is actually this one:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2018497272.htm?rsqid=ebf4b7d7f2794cc0af9676e89c80d dd4-004


why did I have to pay tax again?

[husaberg]

He's an expert on everything in the world.

No Jason, i know what i know and i don't mind sharing it, i also happen to have a rusty old CB750 front wheel in 40 spokes, they fit the brembo/yamaha front disc same as a RD or XS one does only the yamahas ones are 36 spoke.

[HenryDorsetCase]

No Jason, i know what i know and i don't mind sharing it, i also happen to have a rusty old CB750 front wheel in 40 spokes, they fit the brembo/yamaha front disc same as a RD or XS one does only the yamahas ones are 36 spoke.

sing out if you want to sell it. I am probably going to build a new front wheel for mine. all I really want is the hub and disc (and not even really the disc).

[Ocean1]

why did I have to pay tax again?

It's only fair?

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's only fair?

Well, yes. but it fucked the new bike fund a bit.

[husaberg]

sing out if you want to sell it. I am probably going to build a new front wheel for mine. all I really want is the hub and disc (and not even really the disc).

I think the hub is all its good for.
i did have thoughts of adding two floating 320mm disc and brembo 4 pot calipers to some big conventional forks to sell to some rich biker with a CB750 or similar.

[avgas]

$22,000 for a limp old XS1100.
The guy I got my Kat from had a nice one for sale in Chch. He wanted $7K.... and it was original.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I think the hub is all its good for.
i did have thoughts of adding two floating 320mm disc and brembo 4 pot calipers to some big conventional forks to sell to some rich biker with a CB750 or similar.

LOL I'll let you know if I meet any. I think Mr s. Car Bob might meet those requirements....

[sidecar bob]

LOL I'll let you know if I meet any. I think Mr s. Car Bob might meet those requirements....

I only meet one sadly, but I do have two of them.:msn-wink:

[malcy25]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2042574089.htm?rsqid=ebd8e5cdcdb3464498b8b0182115f e37-002

I reckon about 50% over, and even then, I'd want mint factory fresh

[jasonu]

Not long ago they were $10k USD, then $13k. I have yet to see one at $20k.
Recently I saw a couple of modded RZ500's go for more than $20k and the RG500 has always been worth more so maybe $30K NZD is not to far off the mark.
I had a stab at an RC30 last month (The 2nd listing from Canada). At $28k I think it was a steal. Was already sold when I emailed the seller the same day the listing was published.
https://raresportbikesforsale.com/?s=rc30&submit=Search

[malcy25]

Not long ago they were $10k USD, then $13k. I have yet to see one at $20k.
Recently I saw a couple of modded RZ500's go for more than $20k and the RG500 has always been worth more so maybe $30K NZD is not to far off the mark.
I had a stab at an RC30 last month (The 2nd listing from Canada). At $28k I think it was a steal. Was already sold when I emailed the seller the same day the listing was published.
https://raresportbikesforsale.com/?s=rc30&submit=Search

RG and RZ's alien in the US, but less so here, as you know. I had an RZ and was never that fussed. I rode an RG and while it went well, didn't like the way it steered.

If we wants a US style price, he may want to advertise it somewhere where he may get a US buyer....

[avgas]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2042574089.htm?rsqid=ebd8e5cdcdb3464498b8b0182115f e37-002
I reckon about 50% over, and even then, I'd want mint factory fresh
Meh. I looked at one a little while ago for about $20K. So yeah over, but probably not 50% over.

$40K gets you a good V-Due

[jellywrestler]

$40K gets you a good V-Due is there such a thing? most people chase nostalgia hence army indians being high priced etc, rather than unobtain able. i chase stuff i like for what it is, turned away many a sweet deal cause it's not what i like simply

[husaberg]

is there such a thing? most people chase nostalgia hence army indians being high priced etc, rather than unobtain able. i chase stuff i like for what it is, turned away many a sweet deal cause it's not what i like simply

A US firm decided the main issues were porous crankcase castings poor crank seals and bearings as well as shitty mapping.
The original prototypes ran much better injectors made by Ferrari which were replaced on the production version.
Some crowd was making them for years after Bimota stopped.


Bob Steinbugler of specialists Bimota Spirit in North Carolina says that, while switching to carbs solved some problems, the V-Due’s bigger issue was the crankcase seals.
“These seals were too small and not up to the task of sealing the crankshafts,” Steinbugler explains. “They would allow small amounts of air to be sucked past them, and that phenomenon in a two-stroke changes the mixture. The amount of air varied over time and from V-Due to V-Due, so it couldn’t be tuned out.

“For the Trofeo series, Bimota changed from fuel injection to carburettors initially and nothing really improved. Upon further observation they discovered the crankcase seal problem. This was a difficult problem to solve because there was not enough material in the crankcase castings to machine a pocket for a larger outside diameter seal to fit the crankshaft and seal it better. They used a seal that was the same outside diameter and had a smaller inside diameter, but to do this they had to machine down the ends of the crankshafts. This then led to some crankshaft failures.
“The main investment that Piero Caronni made was to go back to the foundry and have crankcases re-cast with a new design that added some material around the crankshaft holes to accept better seals. Once this was done, the bikes became predictable and consistent. The fuel-injection system still suffered from lack of development time – the original prototypes used fuel-injectors supplied by Ferrari and were precise in the range that the V-Due required. For the production versions these were not available, so they went to a production injector and these were not precise enough at the low volume end and did not have enough mapping development to sort them out really well

[F5 Dave]

Oh Jayzus

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2056789090.htm?rsqid=db4dfcc8dcfe4c3d87b64c89b3471 50d-002

But it's only done 1000km. . . Sure buddy.

[F5 Dave]

Look at this miserable piece of shit.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2051379734.htm?rsqid=1d792262b8bb4a988477190faf72e ee1-003

" I found it as a non runner but after cleaning the carb it started up"

So 'Found'. . . Probably in the Bush where some hunter abandoned it whilst out for a spot of pig rooting and had to walk back. You too could break down in the middle of no where. . . Or be confronted by an angry armed man who has spotted his stolen bike.

[Voltaire]

is there such a thing? most people chase nostalgia hence army indians being high priced etc, rather than unobtain able. i chase stuff i like for what it is, turned away many a sweet deal cause it's not what i like simply

Nostalgia is not as good it was back in my day :lol:

There's a few Army Indians here in the VCC, I'm not hardcore enough to own one, prefer my press and ( mostly) go ES Commando.

[Vinz0r]

Look at this miserable piece of shit.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2051379734.htm?rsqid=1d792262b8bb4a988477190faf72e ee1-003

" I found it as a non runner but after cleaning the carb it started up"

So 'Found'. . . Probably in the Bush where some hunter abandoned it whilst out for a spot of pig rooting and had to walk back. You too could break down in the middle of no where. . . Or be confronted by an angry armed man who has spotted his stolen bike.

Hahaha, "custom spray job"... that's one way to put it.

[Autech]

Hahaha, "custom spray job"... that's one way to put it.

Found it in someone else's garage so gave it a shitty paint job so no one would recognise it

[F5 Dave]

What's next? Custom Bespoke Crash Damage by a professional

(apprentice turfed it up the road during a WOF).

[Pound]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2057940629.htm?rsqid=443e0dd8235942659561dc356514b 399-002


Mmmmm lots of tasty go fast bits.....:cool:

It's also one of those rare instances where you can say "photos do it justice".....

[speedpro]

All I can think is "How useful".

[pritch]

Mmmmm lots of tasty go fast bits.....:cool:



OK I can get nostalgic about 500 two stroke race replicas, but thought that last was too expensive. There are a lot of modern bikes that I'd rather have for the same or less cash. That BMW being one such.

[Pound]

All I can think is "How useful".


Good for a least 6+ seconds per lap time......:laugh:

[F5 Dave]

7&1/2 yrs old 4 stroke, no engine work. For the same amount of thousand dollars.

Tick tick tick.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-2044983380.htm?rsqid=86d847794a434b9898e6a1ae989d8 1c4-002

[F5 Dave]

This guy at least is honest about what it is.

But as I look further, sheesh. That alternator is kinda cool in a backyard get you home sort of way but jeez! Those fairing lowers are hideous and looking closer that top fairing I think if you poke around will someone's bad attempt at fiberglass, looks pretty rough.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2042542026.htm?rsqid=0e35a37414204b239c76594fdecde b98-009

[F5 Dave]

30 year old jap import 250 for 4k (without kudos for being a smoker)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-2044983380.htm?rsqid=86d847794a434b9898e6a1ae989d8 1c4-002

[Drew]

Are you supposed to be posting different links?

[husaberg]

Are you supposed to be posting different links?

maybe he means this?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2018979624.htm

[F5 Dave]

An jeez, nah this one, but that ones better.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2042503787.htm?rsqid=79cd5bf47282472485e508eab8fd1 8a4-006


I've fixed the other link above. Jeez I was careful too

[HenryDorsetCase]

This guy at least is honest about what it is.

But as I look further, sheesh. That alternator is kinda cool in a backyard get you home sort of way but jeez! Those fairing lowers are hideous and looking closer that top fairing I think if you poke around will someone's bad attempt at fiberglass, looks pretty rough.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2042542026.htm?rsqid=0e35a37414204b239c76594fdecde b98-009

The lost opportunity there is that could be a supercharger drive .....

[AllanB]

Agree - could have used the belt to drive both. I wonder if the belt whines like a supercharger.

POS otherwise though .......... just saying :weep:

[F5 Dave]

I had SZ model 750. Ex WMCC and drilled sump plug. Went well. But compared with my RZ350 F2, no chance. A revolution was happening. Small light with decent power wins the day.

[jellywrestler]

I had SZ model 750. Ex WMCC and drilled sump plug. Went well. But compared with my RZ350 F2, no chance. A revolution was happening. Small light with decent power wins the day.

they probably drilled thirty of them to hook the customers in.....

[F5 Dave]

Didn't notice until first oil change. It's hardly a selling point.

[jellywrestler]

Didn't notice until first oil change. It's hardly a selling point.

it definetly was, people still go on about have an ex race bike, i remember being in the shop and there'd be a row of bikes, they made a point of saying that this was ex hiscock etc and i'm sure people would have been prompted by that as a point of difference as people always wanted the best.

[F5 Dave]

Oh well I also didn't notice the damaged lock stop and when I replaced the broken choke dial in the side cover it was a totally different silver and it dawned on me the quality of repaint. But I was like 19 and dumb.

Talking of which as I sit in the cafe up from TSS a dude wearing a sweatshirt and a dealer plate over his shoulder has just gone round the corner for the 2nd time on some small bike doing laps. As I looked up his foot bounced off the ground back on the peg Think he was doing a Marquez at 35kph.:laugh:

[Grumph]

Talking of which as I sit in the cafe up from TSS a dude wearing a sweatshirt and a dealer plate over his shoulder has just gone round the corner for the 2nd time on some small bike doing laps. As I looked up his foot bounced off the ground back on the peg Think he was doing a Marquez at 35kph.:laugh:

Rubber sole was a good album - and a danger on boots. LOL.

[pritch]

Rubber sole was a good album - and a danger on boots. LOL.

That reference will probably have me going through my vinyl stack and giving that a whirl later this morning when the neighbours are at work.

[Voltaire]

That reference will probably have me going through my vinyl stack and giving that a whirl later this morning when the neighbours are at work.

Rubber Soul is a good Beatles album, start of Indian influence, quite different to the next one Revolver ( my fav)

[HenryDorsetCase]

the beatles are overrated. All you pricks are old. Music started with the Sex Pistols.

[Voltaire]

the beatles are overrated. All you pricks are old. Music started with the Sex Pistols.

I grew up in the punk era, most (all) of its just stripped down 60's music with a bit of Oi and spitting thrown in.

Never Mind the Bollocks is just easy listening these days....should be on The Sound instead of endless Fleetwood Mac, Phil fucking Collins and

other MOR shit.

[husaberg]

I grew up in the punk era, most (all) of its just stripped down 60's music with a bit of Oi and spitting thrown in.

.

With less cords, as most learned to play properly later on, Other then the Clash.

[Voltaire]

With less cords, as most learned to play properly later on, Other then the Clash.

Did they wear cords? I thought that was more late 60's :lol:

https://www.snapgalleries.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/London-Calling.png

[husaberg]

Time to cut the cords

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6GAGdBiJF0
This one only has 3 cords most punk is 4 i think.
I think the cord progression is more starting from 50's than 60's

This one only has three cord to i googled it

https://youtu.be/TVEhDrJzM8E
I am no muso though i just know what i like.

[HenryDorsetCase]

With less cords, as most learned to play properly later on, Other then the Clash.

Wait, whut? I guess it depends on what you mean by "play properly" - better than me, certainly, but adequate to get their message across? absolutely. And Joe Strummer's later work with the Mescaleros and solo is workmanlike git-box playing. Given how political they were then it was mostly about the message. Mick Jones was the actual "musician" in that band and wrote a lot of the music and pianner (as its referred to on the cover of London Calling) parts. Topper Headon is a way better than average drummer and smack habit notwithstanding was really the glue that held it all together. Paul Simonon was (and is) mainly an artist and was recruited for bass because he loved dancing and he looked divine- he loved bands when they played it hard, he wanted more and he wanted it fast. They did put him down and said he was wrong - a tacky thing, he put them on. He learned in rehearsals with the Clash but he got pretty good in the end.

So a lot of the stuff about the UK punk bands being shit on their instruments was to fit an image. Some of those cats actually could play really well. Remember Joe Strummer was a professional musician with a record out (the 101er's) when punk hit.... Steve Jones had played guitar for a few years before joining the Pistols, the guys from the Stranglers were in some covers band before their band took off, etc etc.

What continually surprises me is all the stuff that happened over a five year period. 1972 in the UK was Ziggy Stardust fever then 1977 punk was dead and we're looking for the next thing. I don't think there's been such a seachange in popular music since. The closest I can think of is the early to mid 90s with the socalled grunge thing, the rise of EDM and the morphing of rap and hiphop into the terrible juggernauts they have become. It was poor people protest music - its where punk rock went next - its fascinating.

[pete376403]

"chords" - just sayin'

[Ocean1]

What continually surprises me is all the stuff that happened over a five year period. 1972 in the UK was Ziggy Stardust fever then 1977 punk was dead and we're looking for the next thing. I don't think there's been such a seachange in popular music since.

Pink Floyd would like a word.

[Drew]

Popular music changes more often than my knickers do.

[Voltaire]

Pink Floyd would like a word.

Compared to Punk and New Wave.....yawn along with Yes and all that Prog rock wank.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Pink Floyd would like a word.

Oh don't get me wrong, that 60's England (well, specifically London) scene in the 60's was happening. I don't follow it but I have read about it principally in stuff to do with DAvid Bowie, who basically spent the whole of the 60's on the back foot trying different stuff till he finally broke big as a one hit wonder in 68 with Space Oddity... then had to wait five years for the next (Ziggy Stardust). And yes, that prog scene, of which Pink Floyd were part was very interesting and new. It seems dated and lame now but it was truly groundbreaking at the time.

My personal preference from that era is the US underground out of New York - and the East Coast (Stooges, MC5 etc) but what I am really into is the Velvet Underground. Kinda sorta cut from the same cloth (bit proggy - 20 minute live version of Sister Ray anyone?) but well into the brutal slice of life ("Heroin" anyone? "waiting for the Man"?) not your hearts and flowers and stuff.

The thing is we all think music peaked when we were age 14 to 25. What came before is boring old shit, what came after is just fucking noise.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Popular music changes more often than my knickers do.

Yeah but a once every ten year thing isn't something to be excited by.

I've never seen that photo of Paul Simonon without the LONDON CALLING on it. Its great.

[husaberg]

"chords" - just sayin'

Chairs............

[neels]

The thing is we all think music peaked when we were age 14 to 25. What came before is boring old shit, what came after is just fucking noise.
Not entirely true.

I am very much liking digging around 90's indie music at present, which is well out of my age range and usual area of interest, not to mention the occasional gem that my kids (who's music taste I've mostly polluted) turn up with. Then again, I'll listen to pretty much anything once, and a lot of new fringe music I'm quite happy to go back for another look.

Pop music (and yes, that very much includes early beatles) is shit, has always been shit, will likely always be shit.

Of course, I still have my default, and they've made me a whole radio station.....https://thegarage961.co.nz/

[Grumph]

My personal preference from that era is the US underground out of New York - and the East Coast (Stooges, MC5 etc) but what I am really into is the Velvet Underground. Kinda sorta cut from the same cloth (bit proggy - 20 minute live version of Sister Ray anyone?) but well into the brutal slice of life ("Heroin" anyone? "waiting for the Man"?) not your hearts and flowers and stuff.

The thing is we all think music peaked when we were age 14 to 25. What came before is boring old shit, what came after is just fucking noise.

You just fancied Nico...Watched the Stooges doco on Maori TV last night. Several LOL moments as you'd expect. MC5 featured too.
When all that was happening, I had no space for music interests, all my spare cash went on racebikes.

[AllanB]

the beatles are overrated. All you pricks are old. Music started with the Sex Pistols.


You must spread rep around .....

[Ocean1]

The thing is we all think music peaked when we were age 14 to 25. What came before is boring old shit, what came after is just fucking noise.

I once had an elderly neighbor sharing my latest batch of limoncello, at home. It prompted comparisons to his own, actual cello, and from that it became apparent that he'd at one time been a very very good cellist, until age crippled him.

A bit embarrassed, perhaps to be talking about himself, he asked me what I played on the piano in the corner. I denied any competence there whatsoever, pointing out that my music came from the far higher authority resident in the racks of CDs in the other corner.

On his third limoncello he wanted to listen to some of it. I played him Sorrow, from A Momentary Lapse of Reason. He cried. I wanted to give him the CD, but he had nothing to play it on.

So great music does transcend generations.

PS: just to keep it on topic: https://www.gearnews.com/david-gilmour-is-selling-his-black-strat/ Apparently $150k isn't optimistic at all....

[AllanB]

Thanks for the link. A generous man. Has he stopping playing publicly now?

[Ocean1]

Thanks for the link. A generous man. Has he stopping playing publicly now?

He's no as old as my neighbour was, and he was still only slightly less than his best a couple of years ago, but who knows?

Last public sighting of that particular axe was here:

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[jasonu]

I once had an elderly neighbor sharing my latest batch of limoncello, at home. It prompted comparisons to his own, actual cello, and from that it became apparent that he'd at one time been a very very good cellist, until age crippled him.

A bit embarrassed, perhaps to be talking about himself, he asked me what I played on the piano in the corner. I denied any competence there whatsoever, pointing out that my music came from the far higher authority resident in the racks of CDs in the other corner.

On his third limoncello he wanted to listen to some of it. I played him Sorrow, from A Momentary Lapse of Reason. He cried. I wanted to give him the CD, but he had nothing to play it on.

So great music does transcend generations.

PS: just to keep it on topic: https://www.gearnews.com/david-gilmour-is-selling-his-black-strat/ Apparently $150k isn't optimistic at all....

Anyone wanna go shares in it ?

[george formby]

The thing is we all think music peaked when we were age 14 to 25. What came before is boring old shit, what came after is just fucking noise.

I'm lucky enough to work with yoof and even luckier that they share their musical tastes with me. Well, sometimes I feel lucky. :pinch:

Their is some brilliant music out there, I just struggle to recall the name of the bands.....

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm lucky enough to work with yoof and even luckier that they share their musical tastes with me. Well, sometimes I feel lucky. :pinch:

Their is some brilliant music out there, I just struggle to recall the name of the bands.....

Yes, similar.... I always try and give new stuff a go. I have really liked St Vincent, Silversun Pickups and Courtney Barnett. Not so much Bloc Party. Early Unknown Mortal Orchestra is good but I dont like their latest.

[AllanB]

Carrying on with the music theme is this cooler than ....

https://www.trademe.co.nz/music-instruments/instruments/guitar-bass/electric-guitars/listing-2057670938.htm

[F5 Dave]

. . . . " I understand replacement tuners, whammy bar and a case are available from "BFG's guitars" if needed." :lol:

[husaberg]

Carrying on with the music theme is this cooler than ....

https://www.trademe.co.nz/music-instruments/instruments/guitar-bass/electric-guitars/listing-2057670938.htm

Surely it isnt solid fiberglass? and only 80+KG's? if solid it would be 300KGs?
bloody impressive though

[babysteps]

And here I was thinking this was a Motorcycle forum and not guitarchat.com

[HenryDorsetCase]

And here I was thinking this was a Motorcycle forum and not guitarchat.com

Why not both? Also Les Paul FTW

[FlangMasterJ]

Got the ergos bang on.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/pocket-pit-bikes/auction-2155388759.htm?rsqid=adaabf8b2a594102a0d79543818e8 ebc-002

[F5 Dave]

Gawd, I hope they all failed. Big on details, does it even run? Is steering possible? Did they intend to train a Orangutan to ride it?

[jellywrestler]

Did they intend to train a Orangutan to ride it? have they asked you yet?

[OddDuck]

since we're talking about ergos, have a look at this effort...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2054843277.htm?rsqid=d4e6c7933dad4e60b4b0fae7c5b7a 150-001

Just a couple of minor mods and yet so very wrong.

[jellywrestler]

since we're talking about ergos, have a look at this effort...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2054843277.htm?rsqid=d4e6c7933dad4e60b4b0fae7c5b7a 150-001

Just a couple of minor mods and yet so very wrong.

next step pipe wrap and a brown seat....

[Laava]

since we're talking about ergos, have a look at this effort...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2054843277.htm?rsqid=d4e6c7933dad4e60b4b0fae7c5b7a 150-001

Just a couple of minor mods and yet so very wrong.
Sensibly, he has done the bar height adjustment in small increments of 200mm at a time, until he gets it right.

[F5 Dave]

Heading towards the stupidity of journalist Gary Innman on PB mag many years back who put some apehangers on a Triumph Daytona or something and declared that if you had to ask 'why?' Then blah blah not a real argument. Muppet. :weird:

[Vinz0r]

since we're talking about ergos, have a look at this effort...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2054843277.htm?rsqid=d4e6c7933dad4e60b4b0fae7c5b7a 150-001

Just a couple of minor mods and yet so very wrong.


:(

At least it's easily reversible.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Sensibly, he has done the bar height adjustment in small increments of 200mm at a time, until he gets it right.

That is a hell of a lot of bike for $6k and it comes with the other bits if you don't like his mods. He might be like me with ducks disease and a bad back and its the only way he can ride the thing, but he can't bring himself to buy a Harley. We'll never know.

[Laava]

That is a hell of a lot of bike for $6k and it comes with the other bits if you don't like his mods. He might be like me with ducks disease and a bad back and its the only way he can ride the thing, but he can't bring himself to buy a Harley. We'll never know.
Well, in spite of owning a couple myself, I have to agree with you that it is a lotta bike. That wasn't my point tho...

[OddDuck]

That is a hell of a lot of bike for $6k and it comes with the other bits if you don't like his mods. He might be like me with ducks disease and a bad back and its the only way he can ride the thing, but he can't bring himself to buy a Harley. We'll never know.

That's a fair call. Have to admit that I started getting tempted. I'd be riding home with the tinted visor down 100% of the time though...

Bad back: yes been there, pilates worked for me.

[F5 Dave]

Nope


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2153372791.htm?rsqid=dcad68f704ee402fafa1a2c727c0e c24-002

Guessing reserve is silly.

[F5 Dave]

This doesn't look like it fits, just weird, - and the bodywork. . . Well maybe the French might like it


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2154747042.htm?rsqid=33dbdb97fb344811ae9ac48bc63d3 dc9-003

[F5 Dave]

Piss off.
It looks well done but for that price you'd want some evidence that it was more than just competitive

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2153843346.htm?rsqid=33dbdb97fb344811ae9ac48bc63d3 dc9-003

[F5 Dave]

On the other hand

81 people have added it to their watch list.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2149498021.htm?rsqid=dbe1e240ea4b4ee2ad02530724477 cd5-004


I bet Nicole gets a few calls.

[jellywrestler]

Piss off.
It looks well done but for that price you'd want some evidence that it was more than just competitive

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2153843346.htm?rsqid=33dbdb97fb344811ae9ac48bc63d3 dc9-003

i'd vouch for it and the owners a friend, do you want his number to tell him that yourself? actually there's a photo of a trophy in there. given that that's no nz biggest classic race meeting i'd say that's your evidence right there...

[AllanB]

Piss off.
It looks well done but for that price you'd want some evidence that it was more than just competitive

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2153843346.htm?rsqid=33dbdb97fb344811ae9ac48bc63d3 dc9-003


It's cool as fuck.

[F5 Dave]

i'd vouch for it and the owners a friend, do you want his number to tell him that yourself? actually there's a photo of a trophy in there. given that that's no nz biggest classic race meeting i'd say that's your evidence right there...
Fair enough, didn't see that withought scanning every picture. You'd think he'd mention it in the blurb. A race bike is only worth its potential. If it has potential and results its worth more straight off.

[husaberg]

Fair enough, didn't see that withought scanning every picture. You'd think he'd mention it in the blurb. A race bike is only worth its potential. If it has potential and results its worth more straight off.

Mb100 tank what else could you want for
Its amazing how big it looks on the T500

[F5 Dave]

Here's a nice not so little 13yr old dirt bike for pretty strong coin.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1991071810.htm?rsqid=ea6211a1ae60433d84e8fe4600284 73c-002

[F5 Dave]

I put some new plastics on my 12 year old dirt bike and now I want how much?!@!!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-2152415640.htm?rsqid=ea6211a1ae60433d84e8fe4600284 73c-002

[Pound]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2165295059.htm?rsqid=d760de89be34492fa4b408c660a01 de3-002

Can buy new for not much more.............:laugh:

[F5 Dave]

Oh yeah but its got 5hundy of his choice of parts. Plus there was some other stuff on it previously, you cant discount that.

1500km. That's like 4 tanks of gas in that thing, 5 maybe. Got bored after hed bought all the accessories?

[jellywrestler]

Oh yeah but its got 5hundy of his choice of parts. Plus there was some other stuff on it previously, you cant discount that.

1500km. That's like 4 tanks of gas in that thing, 5 maybe. Got bored after hed bought all the accessories?

I would prefer no test rides, the dealers have demo bikes, ready to use
sounds like one of those cunts that gets a tradie to give him a quote so his mate can do it for him....

[Banditbandit]

Yeah - I know few of you are into classics ..

here's four and a half grand's worth of rusty metal and lots of work ..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2052657616.htm?rsqid=c53a61e850cb473688f74ebea904f 3df-002

[F5 Dave]

Jeez! You'd have to be mad.

. . . Looks better than my Stinger did:facepalm:

[Pound]

Oh yeah but its got 5hundy of his choice of parts.


Of course, how could I forget that mods add value!? :laugh:

[husaberg]

Yeah - I know few of you are into classics ..

here's four and a half grand's worth of rusty metal and lots of work ..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2052657616.htm?rsqid=c53a61e850cb473688f74ebea904f 3df-002

thats had a rev counter at one stage.
The frame through me for a start off as it wasn't a duplex down tube. then i read the text.
I note it was in 4 fishbins and someone loosely put it together so the buyer could see what he was purchasing.:msn-wink:
Not sure what Grump thinks but i would say complete the engine is likely worth close to 2G
the rest not so much unless it had "real history"
Hugh anderson started racing on one of those Either (B33 or B31)
the flywheels wer so heavy on them and the cams so mild they never used to slow down when you shut the throttle on a B33

[Grumph]

You're thinking of stories about the M series singles flywheels...

Finally got a look at it on the wife's laptop. Forget about any performance future for it. Or road restoration. Too altered.
I'd turn it into a classic trials bike. Main frame diamond is same as the early Goldies as ridden by Nicholson etc.
I'd do a rigid rear end copy of the early works bikes.
Unless you got really lucky you wouldn't win anything on it - but it'd be fun anyway.

I've never seen a bog std B31 or B33 engine. Very easy to tweak a little. I'd not be surprised at anything found in that one.

Edit - yeah, two grand would be tops.

[AllanB]

That BSA is mainly interesting due to it's presentation. Looks like most of the parts are there, looks like a motorcycle.

Looks better than four fish bins full of parts.

Yes?

A week or two back there was a shit-fight on KB about a suggestion to cobble together your parts so it presents something like a motorcycle not a box of shitty bits.

I'm pretty sure you will agree he may have had a valid point! :2thumbsup

[Grumph]

That BSA is mainly interesting due to it's presentation. Looks like most of the parts are there, looks like a motorcycle.

Looks better than four fish bins full of parts.

Yes?

A week or two back there was a shit-fight on KB about a suggestion to cobble together your parts so it presents something like a motorcycle not a box of shitty bits.

I'm pretty sure you will agree he may have had a valid point! :2thumbsup

Only from a sellers point of view...I love bikes in fishbins, They're always cheaper.....

[husaberg]

You're thinking of stories about the M series singles flywheels...

Finally got a look at it on the wife's laptop. Forget about any performance future for it. Or road restoration. Too altered.
I'd turn it into a classic trials bike. Main frame diamond is same as the early Goldies as ridden by Nicholson etc.
I'd do a rigid rear end copy of the early works bikes.
Unless you got really lucky you wouldn't win anything on it - but it'd be fun anyway.

I've never seen a bog std B31 or B33 engine. Very easy to tweak a little. I'd not be surprised at anything found in that one.

Edit - yeah, two grand would be tops.

Not sure what the SIdevalve M series were like but the B33 was a oddly heavily flywheeled, My dad had a ZB33 i(e plunger engine) in a A10 frame with the usual goldie look stuff mudguards headlight goldie tank etc but stock engine and no twitter at all from the goldie pipe on std comp and cams.
it always amazed me how much flywheel it had. it was like a big rubber band was pulling it to accelerate and decelerate. it was actually presently smooth.
I think the B33 engine used to be in a railway or Bush tram jigger at one time
He might still have it but i think it gone he sold off a shitload of BSA stuff over the last 10 years. He sold the unrestored Cyclone the other day.
In that pic the rear loop looks like a cross between a C12 and a Norton (Rear plates)with a little velo thrown in

[Pound]

Actually a good price for brand new.....;)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2166309863.htm?rsqid=b6c227aefc38492189f7ec5d32b55 97f-002

[AllanB]

That's the Pure. The most basic version. I thought they were 19k new normal price?

[HenryDorsetCase]

That's the Pure. The most basic version. I thought they were 19k new normal price?

I like the one with the wire wheels and the alloy tank. Having said that I like most Moto Gooootzis and Hardly ablesons more.

[jellywrestler]

Actually a good price for brand new.....;)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2166309863.htm?rsqid=b6c227aefc38492189f7ec5d32b55 97f-002

buying one of those is like not getting lucky for five years,
then bringing home susan boyle....

[Voltaire]

buying one of those is like not getting lucky for five years,
then bringing home susan boyle....

Not the first time you have mentioned Susan Boyle, is she the gold standard in the Hutt?

[F5 Dave]

Nah, that would be Shazza the hairdresser, or maybe Tracie who sometimes does the late shift at the BP.

[Grumph]

Nah, that would be Shazza the hairdresser, or maybe Tracie who sometimes does the late shift at the BP.

Those may be your picks, but bear in mind jelly is a different age demographic....

[jellywrestler]

Those may be your picks, but bear in mind jelly is a different age demographic....

age doesn't matter when the lights are off...

[Paul in NZ]

Not sure what the SIdevalve M series were like but the B33 was a oddly heavily flywheeled, My dad had a ZB33 i(e plunger engine) in a A10 frame with the usual goldie look stuff mudguards headlight goldie tank etc but stock engine and no twitter at all from the goldie pipe on std comp and cams.
it always amazed me how much flywheel it had. it was like a big rubber band was pulling it to accelerate and decelerate. it was actually presently smooth.
I think the B33 engine used to be in a railway or Bush tram jigger at one time
He might still have it but i think it gone he sold off a shitload of BSA stuff over the last 10 years. He sold the unrestored Cyclone the other day.
In that pic the rear loop looks like a cross between a C12 and a Norton (Rear plates)with a little velo thrown in

Remember that in the 50's a 500 was a big bike and most of these things got connected to a sidecar... (not so much in NZ) The big rubber band thing was ideal for that

[F5 Dave]

age doesn't matter when the lights are off...
Why the Hell would you want to have sex with the lights off?!

[F5 Dave]

Don't want to upset Pat, but I think hes optimistic anyone would want this thing


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2169143582.htm?rsqid=93a4442e33d044a8a7ed0217db1bc dc6-002


Mind you they say No one ever went broke underestimating people's taste.
Does that make sense no I've written it. . .

[Grumph]

Mind you they say No one ever went broke underestimating people's taste.
Does that make sense no I've written it. . .

CCM may be the test case for that proposition.

[AllanB]

Don't want to upset Pat, but I think hes optimistic anyone would want this thing


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2169143582.htm?rsqid=93a4442e33d044a8a7ed0217db1bc dc6-002


Mind you they say No one ever went broke underestimating people's taste.
Does that make sense no I've written it. . .


I think they may finally be getting to the stage where they are worth around that dollar. Farking weird bikes, even worse looking in yellow.

[Laava]

Don't want to upset Pat, but I think hes optimistic anyone would want this thing


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2169143582.htm?rsqid=93a4442e33d044a8a7ed0217db1bc dc6-002


Mind you they say No one ever went broke underestimating people's taste.
Does that make sense no I've written it. . .
styling was way ahead of it's time.
think you,ll find the Jetsons was from the 70's!

[Voltaire]

Don't want to upset Pat, but I think hes optimistic anyone would want this thing


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2169143582.htm?rsqid=93a4442e33d044a8a7ed0217db1bc dc6-002


Mind you they say No one ever went broke underestimating people's taste.
Does that make sense no I've written it. . .

Probably looks ok with the lights off.

[F5 Dave]

I think they may finally be getting to the stage where they are worth around that dollar. Farking weird bikes, even worse looking in yellow.
First saw a yellow one parked at boxing day races. Bleurrg :shutup:

[husaberg]

I think they may finally be getting to the stage where they are worth around that dollar. Farking weird bikes, even worse looking in yellow.

Styling turns heads nah, more often it turns stomachs

[jasonu]

Why the Hell would you want to have sex with the lights off?!

For the benefit of the tart in some cases...

[F5 Dave]

Ooh you sensitive lover.

Heck, why not throw in a couple of bucks for a taxi instead of the bus?

[sidecar bob]

Seems a compact & well executed exhaust system for a two stroke.
Not like those silly big fat things they usually have.:facepalm:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2172082827.htm?rsqid=d7c0b1409c154d08b388ef12896bf bb2-003

[F5 Dave]

Oh gawd. What a piece of shite.

Wonder where the airbox is.

I still want it.:doh:

[AllanB]

Seems a compact & well executed exhaust system for a two stroke.
Not like those silly big fat things they usually have.:facepalm:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2172082827.htm?rsqid=d7c0b1409c154d08b388ef12896bf bb2-003


3-1 Chamber. Can't remember who was churning out stuff like that back in the day in NZ.

I always wondered what a X-1 system did on a 2 stroke other than save weight and increase ground clearance.

[F5 Dave]

Just that. -::: but if you make it into an expansion it can kinda work.

[AllanB]

V8 two stroke anyone?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppk3vfxfr34

[jasonu]

Seems a compact & well executed exhaust system for a two stroke.
Not like those silly big fat things they usually have.:facepalm:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2172082827.htm?rsqid=d7c0b1409c154d08b388ef12896bf bb2-003

Gordon Bennett!!!!!

[babysteps]

Gentlemen I present to you for your viewing pleasure the $19k 1980 XS1100 .....

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2031241661.htm?rsqid=1bea0f9fd7734bcd958b1b4ff8ee4 450-002

[AllanB]

Gentlemen I present to you for your viewing pleasure the $19k 1980 XS1100 .....

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2031241661.htm?rsqid=1bea0f9fd7734bcd958b1b4ff8ee4 450-002


It's just not worth anywhere near that .........

[jasonu]

It's just not worth anywhere near that .........

Even if you dropped one of the zeros...

[Stylo]

Maybe the price is a little 'optimistic' but I like the work that's been done on it.

Giving him some credit where it's due , nice bike on an alternative skew...

[sidecar bob]

The $514 motorcycle.
Not optimistic, just a bit weird.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2174633573.htm?rsqid=1d029fbea52746d0990f097437a87 dc9-002

[AllanB]

The $514 motorcycle.
Not optimistic, just a bit weird.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2174633573.htm?rsqid=1d029fbea52746d0990f097437a87 dc9-002


$514 a lucky number?

[sidecar bob]

I nearly put one of these in the joke thread.
24 HP or 128 HP for the same money.
Childrens stuff is so expensive these days.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2175477746
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2174872403

[jasonu]

I nearly put one of these in the joke thread.
24 HP or 128 HP for the same money.
Childrens stuff is so expensive these days.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2175477746
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2174872403

The Bucket guy prolly wants what it would cost to build if you paid someone $50 an hour.
I wouldn't pay $8k (or even $4k) for the both of them together.

[F5 Dave]

Yes that's silly money for both. Especially when you realise the GPR is not a full one, that's an FXR frame with the front half hacked off. FXR swingarm and presumably suspension at the rear.

[Banditbandit]

thats had a rev counter at one stage.
The frame through me for a start off as it wasn't a duplex down tube. then i read the text.
I note it was in 4 fishbins and someone loosely put it together so the buyer could see what he was purchasing.:msn-wink:
Not sure what Grump thinks but i would say complete the engine is likely worth close to 2G
the rest not so much unless it had "real history"
Hugh anderson started racing on one of those Either (B33 or B31)
the flywheels wer so heavy on them and the cams so mild they never used to slow down when you shut the throttle on a B33

And the brakes were no better .. minimal help to slow down ..

[F5 Dave]

So we all know 2 strokes are rapidly going mental price wise.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2183055038.htm?rsqid=0eaccf3ad1414d8197cc6a3c8e518 7e9-002

This is a Jap import. Not a 350. And it's been crash repaired without a fairing.

Nah mate. That's fancy NSR money.

[husaberg]

So we all know 2 strokes are rapidly going mental price wise.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2183055038.htm?rsqid=0eaccf3ad1414d8197cc6a3c8e518 7e9-002

This is a Jap import. Not a 350. And it's been crash repaired without a fairing.

Nah mate. That's fancy NSR money.

They have a bloop in their other listings for 2.5K

[F5 Dave]

Um, this seems somewhat confused
:confused:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2181268454.htm?rsqid=2022935a8b724886b47ab4cdae2a1 50d-003

[AllanB]

Um, this seems somewhat confused
:confused:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2181268454.htm?rsqid=2022935a8b724886b47ab4cdae2a1 50d-003

Jap bike Brit flag ..... price looks OK if it runs as well as he claims.

[F5 Dave]

99% finished<_<
Diff leaks. Badly done in primer.
Attn to detail; as it came, but look I sawed off the back of frame and fit a brown seat with a side mounted plate like everyone else .

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2177315672.htm?rsqid=56797d844e49478488fdd86fb2eb8 166-004

[bistard]

Um, this seems somewhat confused
:confused:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2181268454.htm?rsqid=2022935a8b724886b47ab4cdae2a1 50d-003

Well if anyone is looking for the correct hubs for a wire wheel Katana or GSX1100, there is a set right there!!

[Grumph]

I nearly put one of these in the joke thread.
24 HP or 128 HP for the same money.
Childrens stuff is so expensive these days.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2175477746
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2174872403


Everything that needed to be said abouit the bucket has been - but the 1100 is a potential can of worms.
The 6 speed box caught ny eye, Been there, broken that, fixed that so it worked, went back to 5 speed...
You don't need a 6 speed in a GSXR1100. Take Holden's word for it.
In the immortal words of Scotty...."It'll ney take it, Captain"

[AllanB]

You don't need a 6 speed in a GSXR1100. Take Holden's word for it.


Agree 100%

And you really don't need a six speed on a friggen Harley.

Trends are not always good.


So the question is - why has the world stopped at six gears? Regulated by racing?

[Grumph]

Basically, yes.

But I'd argue that you may need a 6 speed on a tuned Harley...

According to Jerry Branch's pamphlet on tuning the Evo, the hot ones start making serious power from about 2500rpm - and it's all over at 5800rpm....

That's a pretty narrow powerband.

[F5 Dave]

I did wonder about an early Mito gearbox for my 50. Bucket rules would allow 7 if it were road based.

[husaberg]

I did wonder about an early Mito gearbox for my 50. Bucket rules would allow 7 if it were road based.

A sachs mx bike had a seven speed as well. On both the 125 and 250's
you could run 12 if you want of on a bucket.

[F5 Dave]

And the Sachs; does it use an mx gearbox? Oh look! That is actually excluded by the rules.

Didn't know about it though.

[husaberg]

And the Sachs; does it use an mx gearbox? Oh look! That is actually excluded by the rules.

Didn't know about it though.

The AMA had different rules than the FIM for mx. The ama only had to use the same amount of gears as the homolgated bike.

But yes its an MX bike and i think an enduro as well, but not a trail bike.<_<

[pritch]

A sachs mx bike had a seven speed as well. On both the 125 and 250's
you could run 12 if you want of on a bucket.

Kreidler used to race 50s with 12 speeds: four speed foot change and a three position grip IIRC.

[husaberg]

Kreidler used to race 50s with 12 speeds: four speed foot change and a three position grip IIRC.

Suzuki were up to 18 sppeds but them the FIM brought in the rules in about 1968 limiting the classes to 6 speeds 4 cylinders for 500's and 350's twins for 250's and 125's and singles for 50's.

This was later changed to up to 4 for 500 2 for 250 one for 125 and 50/80 in arround the early 80's. all with max 6 speeds.
I have posted pics of the 12 speeds and accounts by Hugh Anderson of the Suzukis
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/86554-ESE-s-works-engine-tuner?p=1130412381#post1130412381
Frits
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/86554-ESE-s-works-engine-tuner/page360?p=1130196393#post1130196393
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/86554-ESE-s-works-engine-tuner/page360?p=1130196393#post1130196393
Suzuki
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151865-Old-multi-cylinder-bikes-of-the-50s-to-later-on-Japanese-British-Euro-etc?p=1130374843#post1130374843
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/86554-ESE-s-works-engine-tuner?p=1130412381#post1130412381
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/86554-ESE-s-works-engine-tuner?p=1130128384#post1130128384

Wooley used this kart od box to double the speeds
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/86554-ESE-s-works-engine-tuner?p=1130910999&highlight=kreidler#post1130910999

They needed that many gears as the powerbands were less than 500RPM wide

[speedpro]

But I'd argue that you may need a 6 speed on a tuned Harley...

According to Jerry Branch's pamphlet on tuning the Evo, the hot ones start making serious power from about 2500rpm - and it's all over at 5800rpm....

That's a pretty narrow powerband.

Not really. It's exactly the same as a GSX1100 with power from 4500rpm to 9500rpm.

Say you had the Harley geared for 80km/h at 2500rpm it would pull 160km/h at 5000rpm with 800rpm still to go. Seems like a decent spread to me.

[Pound]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2186956075.htm?rsqid=0d2a4e3425b54ddc8840471027321 31f-003

"Couple of little indents on either side of the tank"

"Needs new tires"

"Original MC was leaking so just replaced it with a nissin one"

"Engine had to be replaced due to fault with the last chain tensioner"

All for a "low" $12000......<_<

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'd like one of these as a trackday toy.... but not that one.

[AllanB]

It appears to have a left side crankcase slider.

[F5 Dave]

That one looks ideal. Suspension is a plus. Engine got lunched by tensioner but low mileage replacement.
Bit expensive yeah but. . .

[Drew]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2186956075.htm?rsqid=0d2a4e3425b54ddc8840471027321 31f-003

"Couple of little indents on either side of the tank"

"Needs new tires"

"Original MC was leaking so just replaced it with a nissin one"

"Engine had to be replaced due to fault with the last chain tensioner"

All for a "low" $12000......<_<
Was a race bike obviously....


That one looks ideal. Suspension is a plus. Engine got lunched by tensioner but low mileage replacement.
Bit expensive yeah but. . .
But I cobbled this piece of shit together to try and sell.



Didn't look at who is selling it, but sounds like the bike Rogan Chandler spent some time trying to destroy.

[F5 Dave]

That was Red, if you'd painted the tank you'd fix the dents, I had it on the dyno, didn't have the flash front end. . . Just trying to download memory, don't remember the Akrapovic. A track bike isn't going to be a virgin.

[jellywrestler]

That was Red, if you'd painted the tank you'd fix the dents, I had it on the dyno, didn't have the flash front end. . . Just trying to download memory, don't remember the Akrapovic. A track bike isn't going to be a virgin.

last triumph he rode was white

[F5 Dave]

Ok didn't see that one. Too selfish riding dirtbike etc to come watch other people race so I'm out of touch.

I'd still like the 675 if someone wants to buy it for me. I'll still care for it even if it has been deflowered and desecrated.

I dont need a track bike though. Too busy riding other bikes.

[jasonu]

https://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/d/bend-honda-ascot-1984/6913041273.html\

Yep a real head turner. You have to turn your head to puke.

[F5 Dave]

Link doesn't work. I think that's probably in my favour..

[Pound]

Yep a real head turner. You have to turn your head to puke.


Speaking of puke............


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2192357955.htm?rsqid=13000522202c4ef38056a18f66921 7a2-003:sick:

[Owl]

Speaking of puke............

The bike, Lorna or both?:confused:

[F5 Dave]

Strange. I still get an error message on the link. Maybe my browser has a Taste filter?

[layton]

https://trademe.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/triumph/listing/2193948629?tm=email&et=47&mt=78CAD1F1-B6C6-45C4-BD4D-5A5EB34080AF

[Drew]

https://trademe.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/triumph/listing/2193948629?tm=email&et=47&mt=78CAD1F1-B6C6-45C4-BD4D-5A5EB34080AF

Few bikes as popular as those were would be transformed as dramatically, with nothing but a decent shock.

They're really quite fucking terrible.

But that's stupid money.

[F5 Dave]

People who name their bike:blink:

But then not just Susan or Johnno , but The Rascal. That's just super ghey.
Next bike; Mr Naughtypants.


Nice bike but if he could just turn the clocks back 20,000km and 6 years he might have a chance.

[sidecar bob]

Seems a bit steep for a few lengths of exhaust tubing set up for an antique engine.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-2193799115.htm?rsqid=df96b2f44c6f49569a75131c1e950 389-002

[jasonu]

Seems a bit steep for a few lengths of exhaust tubing set up for an antique engine.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-2193799115.htm?rsqid=df96b2f44c6f49569a75131c1e950 389-002

Exhaust tube frame around a 100+hp motor...what could possible go wrong???

[F5 Dave]

Well I don't want to be alarmist, but its bent the 3rd wheel mount:shit:

[Drew]

Think that's the one lissa Birkett and her boyfriend were building up. She got a wide on for chairs after the 'have a go day' last year.

She was a good swinger, just had to work fucken hard since she only ways about 36 kilos. That's not an exaggeration.

[sidecar bob]

Well I don't want to be alarmist, but its bent the 3rd wheel mount:shit:

And it also has no brakes & no hope of ever having any. It also requires a crew of two, (more than an oil tanker) & it's a prerequisite that the two of them bicker & argue about pointless shit like spoilt children, both amongst themselves & with the operators of other similarly spasticated machines.
How the fuck did that concept ever catch on?

PS, everything I know about oil tankers I learned here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

[Drew]

This is her. Smoking' hottie!

[Grumph]

This is her. Smoking' hottie!

Not sure what to think there. Either there's a case for two passengers that size - or all of them should be Sidecar Bob's size....

[pritch]

https://trademe.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/triumph/listing/2193948629?tm=email&et=47&mt=78CAD1F1-B6C6-45C4-BD4D-5A5EB34080AF

Might be lucky to get half that?

[F5 Dave]

. .

PS, everything I know about oil tankers I learned here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM
Indeed an insightful dialogue.

Every day is a school day.

[jellywrestler]

This is her. Smoking' hottie!

you dirty old man, i went to her christening.

[sidecar bob]

Picked this up tonight.
It's off to live with TT lap record holder Pete Hickman in the UK.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2183045369
It couldn't be had for that many pounds over there apparently.

[onearmedbandit]

Picked this up tonight.
It's off to live with Pete Hickman in the UK.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2183045369
It couldn't be had for that many pounds over there apparently.

I keep on looking on trademe at old two-strokes I grew up with and telling myself I don't need another bike. I don't believe myself though.

[jasonu]

Picked this up tonight.
It's off to live with Pete Hickman in the UK.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2183045369
It couldn't be had for that many pounds over there apparently.

If it is as good as it looks its a bargain. All the faults listed sound like the owner is a numpty.

[sidecar bob]

If it is as good as it looks its a bargain. All the faults listed sound like the owner is a numpty.
It's at least as good as it looks & by the time I got there (pressed buy now in Lincolnshire) he had a footpeg bracket to replace the broken one which he chucked in.
He's not a complete unknown to me & makes very high quality fibreglass moulds & fairings as a hobby.
I had a look in his workshop & was blown away with the workmanship.
He is certainly not stupid, I can see how you might get that looking at the ad though.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Picked this up tonight.
It's off to live with TT lap record holder Pete Hickman in the UK.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2183045369
It couldn't be had for that many pounds over there apparently.

that was CHEAP!

[HenryDorsetCase]

I keep on looking on trademe at old two-strokes I grew up with and telling myself I don't need another bike. I don't believe myself though.

Fuck tell me about it. I had an opportunity a few years ago to buy an NSR250SP and turned it down. :( STUPID

I currently want a GPz550 because I am glutton for punishment.

[onearmedbandit]

Fuck tell me about it. I had an opportunity a few years ago to buy an NSR250SP and turned it down. :( STUPID

I currently want a GPz550 because I am glutton for punishment.

I feel like I should join the fray, two of my best friends have a couple examples sitting in their sheds (one has an NSR-SP NC21 in Rothmans, the other has an RGV250 that owes over 30k and also an MC28 SP Repsol).

[Katman]

I currently want a GPz550 because I am glutton for punishment.

If it's an '82 model you're after, you'll have to fight me for it.

[jasonu]

If it's an '82 model you're after, you'll have to fight me for it.

How come?
My mate had one when they were new. From memory it was just OK. It did everything well but didn't do anything particularly special.

[Grumph]

If it's an '82 model you're after, you'll have to fight me for it.

Anything that turns up down here gets grabbed for pre82 Junior CAMS racing. Lightly modded, they're pretty good - but ultimately the 550 yamaha is a better race bike.

[Katman]

How come?
My mate had one when they were new. From memory it was just OK. It did everything well but didn't do anything particularly special.

Four of my five bikes are '82 models.

Let's just say I thought it was a good year.

[husaberg]

To all the brown seat and exhaust tape wantabees, filling up trademe with ugly overpriced pos
this is a cafe racer......
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2188280204.htm?rsqid=0be57f6addb042739fb826435ba18 ee9-001
Nothing optimistic in the price either.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1037270139.jpg

$1,500.00
No reserve

[F5 Dave]

Quite a steering rake on that yeah? Wonder if the frame is GB or XL.

[husaberg]

Quite a steering rake on that yeah? Wonder if the frame is GB or XL.

What do you think the swing-arm is from?
Scratch that on the parts fiche the GB500 was a box section swingarm
https://images.cmsnl.com/img/partslists/honda-gb500-touristtrophy-1989-k-usa-california-swingarm_bighu0280f2300a_3618.gif
So given its a dual shock frame i would say it a STD GB frame
The rear shocks look like they are a little short. Maybe the forks a little long.
Its still very well made.

[Katman]

It looks like a fucking abortion.

[AllanB]

It looks like a fucking abortion.

I'm with Katman - not pleasing to the eye at all.

[Laava]

I'm with Katman - not pleasing to the eye at all.
If they had not used an old letterbox for the tank, that would have helped...

[F5 Dave]

Meh. Not my thing but it is worlds better than the usual bullshit. I'd prefer a striped down RD400 with big wire rims, chrome and deep blue metallic paint.


This isn't it
https://www.google.com/search?q=spirit+of+the+70s+rd400&client=tablet-android-samsung&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjuh9f94fziAhXOSH0KHZ88D3sQ_AUoAXoECA0QA Q&biw=1280&bih=800&dpr=1.5

[Voltaire]

Pre Unit Triumph
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2200684042
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/1072575057.jpg

I hope he gets it as might motivate me to do my 58 T110.
I suspect the demograph who likes these may be selling up to buy mobility scooters.

[jellywrestler]

Pre Unit Triumph
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2200684042

I hope he gets it as might motivate me to do my 58 T110.
I suspect the demograph who likes these may be selling up to buy mobility scooters.

nah some are grabbing them, a roll of exhaust tape a maltese cross taillights and playing soggy biscuit in each others sheds every saturday arvo

[sidecar bob]

nah some are grabbing them, a roll of exhaust tape a maltese cross taillights and playing soggy biscuit in each others sheds every saturday arvo

What is this soggy biscuit of which you speak?

[Voltaire]

nah some are grabbing them, a roll of exhaust tape a maltese cross taillights and playing soggy biscuit in each others sheds every saturday arvo

https://img.taste.com.au/RqNbJAgG/w720-h480-cfill-q80/taste/2016/11/chocolate-and-cream-biscuits-97445-1.jpeg

" they don't have as much 'cream' as they used to"

[jellywrestler]

What is this soggy biscuit of which you speak?

a bucket racing thing sometimes....

[jasonu]

What is this soggy biscuit of which you speak?

Never heard of the soggy sayo?
Its a game played mostly in boys boarding schools.

[Laava]

nah some are grabbing them, a roll of exhaust tape a maltese cross taillights and playing soggy biscuit in each others sheds every saturday arvo


Never heard of the soggy sayo?
Its a game played mostly in boys boarding schools.
Ah, so you are aware of the biscuit game. The only time being a premature ejaculator would come in handy! Or on biscuity as the case may be.

[jellywrestler]

. The only time being a premature ejaculator would come in handy! .
it's very handy for F5Dave, he spends way less on 0900 calls than normal people...

[HenryDorsetCase]

nah some are grabbing them, a roll of exhaust tape a maltese cross taillights and playing soggy biscuit in each others sheds every saturday arvo

You were one of the guys that bleated about "punk" right? Oh, they can't play, oh, they can't sing, oh they swear in their lyrics... Or Grunge. or when rock and roll took over from jazz, or when EDM took over from rock. or when rap took over from rock. Whatever. The important thing is that those young people that you spit on (to quote a Bowie lyric) are out in their sheds doing something. You don't like it? who gives a fuck. Its not about you, its not about me, its about them spending some time, learning some skills and moving forward. And hopefully sacrificing a few shitty old brit-bike heaps of shit in the process. Remember your first efforts in the shed? smashing knuckles, cutting that important bit 5mm too short? Breaking those blades and drill bits and parts you couldnt afford to replace?

I fucking despair some days I really do.

[F5 Dave]

it's very handy for F5Dave, he spends way less on 0900 calls than normal people...
Just the sound of the dial tone gets me off these days.

[OddDuck]

You were one of the guys that bleated about "punk" right? Oh, they can't play, oh, they can't sing, oh they swear in their lyrics... Or Grunge. or when rock and roll took over from jazz, or when EDM took over from rock. or when rap took over from rock. Whatever. The important thing is that those young people that you spit on (to quote a Bowie lyric) are out in their sheds doing something. You don't like it? who gives a fuck. Its not about you, its not about me, its about them spending some time, learning some skills and moving forward. And hopefully sacrificing a few shitty old brit-bike heaps of shit in the process. Remember your first efforts in the shed? smashing knuckles, cutting that important bit 5mm too short? Breaking those blades and drill bits and parts you couldnt afford to replace?

I fucking despair some days I really do.

Perhaps this ad is appropriate, at this moment in the discussion...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2202053684.htm?rsqid=ca9a88c3eb2f41e3a3fc45aa1ac7a 58b-003

[OddDuck]

The previous ad was (I reckon) on the right side of this particular coin. Here's the flip side:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2187802031.htm?rsqid=21a686b44a9748bb921b9dc8249c4 026-005

This is sadly typical of what's happening out there. High priced, not warrantable as is, mods that seriously compromise reliability and even safety... but there are 66 people watching this auction. An SR400.

Le sigh...

[HenryDorsetCase]

I really like that headlight bracket and headlight. Just saying

[sidecar bob]

The previous ad was (I reckon) on the right side of this particular coin. Here's the flip side:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2187802031.htm?rsqid=21a686b44a9748bb921b9dc8249c4 026-005

This is sadly typical of what's happening out there. High priced, not warrantable as is, mods that seriously compromise reliability and even safety... but there are 66 people watching this auction. An SR400.

Le sigh...

Ahh, so THATS the finest exhaust system in the world.:eek5:

[jellywrestler]

You were one of the guys that bleated about "punk" right? Oh, they can't play, oh, they can't sing, oh they swear in their lyrics... Or Grunge. or when rock and roll took over from jazz, or when EDM took over from rock. or when rap took over from rock. Whatever. The important thing is that those young people that you spit on (to quote a Bowie lyric) are out in their sheds doing something. You don't like it? who gives a fuck. Its not about you, its not about me, its about them spending some time, learning some skills and moving forward. And hopefully sacrificing a few shitty old brit-bike heaps of shit in the process. Remember your first efforts in the shed? smashing knuckles, cutting that important bit 5mm too short? Breaking those blades and drill bits and parts you couldnt afford to replace?

I fucking despair some days I really do.
never said a word about music at all. my post was to invoke some raised eyebrows from voltaire simply, seems you took the bait....

[Voltaire]

never said a word about music at all. my post was to invoke some raised eyebrows from voltaire simply, seems you took the bait....

Missed that, was out in the shed fitting a maltese cross tail light and exhaust wrap to the Triumph with a cupper and some bikkies.

" How do you make a Maltese Cross?"

" don't pay them"

Boom Boom says Basil.

[Voltaire]

The previous ad was (I reckon) on the right side of this particular coin. Here's the flip side:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2187802031.htm?rsqid=21a686b44a9748bb921b9dc8249c4 026-005

This is sadly typical of what's happening out there. High priced, not warrantable as is, mods that seriously compromise reliability and even safety... but there are 66 people watching this auction. An SR400.

Le sigh...

Not actually high priced if your familiar with them, he could part it out for more, and its not advertised as a road usable bike.
Wheels are hard to come by now, as are the twin disc forks.
Parts locally are hard to come by now.

Or you could buy my fully completed race bike for 10K and save yourself years of work. Over 80BHP on the Dyno too.
342192

[pritch]

Pre Unit Triumph
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2200684042
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/1072575057.jpg

I suspect the demograph who likes these may be selling up to buy mobility scooters.

That bike I like, and I'm in the appropriate demographic. Sadly I'm not a good enough mechanic to own it. Also there might be the matter of a drastic reassessment of my accustomed overtaking distances.

[jasonu]

, or when rap took over from rock.

.

That never happened!!!

[FlangMasterJ]

This listing is popping off in the Q & A https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2201711267.htm

[sidecar bob]

This listing is popping off in the Q & A https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2201711267.htm

Wow, hes an entitled millenial.
I dont often give trademe a heads up, but he earned that one.

[jasonu]

This listing is popping off in the Q & A https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2201711267.htm

It looks like a Buell knock off and Buells are mostly fucking ugly.
Going by the comments one might think the seller is that argumentative egg Husaberk.

[Ocean1]

PS: just to keep it on topic: https://www.gearnews.com/david-gilmour-is-selling-his-black-strat/ Apparently $150k isn't optimistic at all....


Anyone wanna go shares in it ?

I'm just a poor boy...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/113702218/dark-side-of-the-moon-guitar-sells-for-record-6-million

[jasonu]

I'm just a poor boy...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/113702218/dark-side-of-the-moon-guitar-sells-for-record-6-million

Yep. The estimates were way off. The lesser items that were estimated to sell in the low thousands all went for $100,000 +.

[Laava]

This is pretty good too for a shitbox old Datsun!

actually a cool car but...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/nissan/auction-2156931018.htm?rsqid=da7ea24586b746a49ed30ed1f73c4 0e1-001

[F5 Dave]

Well, it does answer some suspicions about people who add things to their watchlist. Over 1000 that are seriously unlikely to drop 400k on an old worn out Ratsun.

[jasonu]

Well, it does answer some suspicions about people who add things to their watchlist. Over 1000 that are seriously unlikely to drop 400k on an old worn out Ratsun.

I put a watch on plenty of stuff I have no immediate intention of buying. It can be good information if and when I do decide to buy.

[Voltaire]

I put a watch on plenty of stuff I have no immediate intention of buying. It can be good information if and when I do decide to buy.

I add ones that I have similar to so as to guage the market for the future.

Like that pile of BMW parts loosely assembled into a roller by a mate of mine that sold in a matter of hours for the asking price.

Was not that long about 2K bought you a running one. ( well it was probably about 15 years but hey this is KB after all)

[sidecar bob]

This is pretty good too for a shitbox old Datsun!

actually a cool car but...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/nissan/auction-2156931018.htm?rsqid=da7ea24586b746a49ed30ed1f73c4 0e1-001

Those guys are great if you want to pay around twice what something is worth.
Their BMW 3.0csi recently had so many mistakes in the description, they clearly had no idea what it was they were selling.

[Laava]

Those guys are great if you want to pay around twice what something is worth.
Their BMW 3.0csi recently had so many mistakes in the description, the clearly had no idea what it was they were selling.
Yeah, they have an RX3 there for $160,000 as well!

[sidecar bob]

Yeah, they have an RX3 there for $160,000 as well!

They managed to describe a four door "coupe" (go figure) 1300 four speed fiat with silver painted steel wheels, a Haynes manual and some English made spot lamps screwed to the bumper as "desirable options"
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/fiat/auction-2203148139.htm
They pulled "est 1911" out of their arses too, the company was formed in 2012 & is Australian owned.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Those guys are great if you want to pay around twice what something is worth.
Their BMW 3.0csi recently had so many mistakes in the description, they clearly had no idea what it was they were selling.

https://duttongarage.com/FERRARI-GT-DINO~50181

only the best looking car ever made by anyone anywhere. Millions of quatloos required.

They do a nice line in vintage Porsches (which is where my interests really are) but holy shitballs Batman, eye watering money. Worth it IF done properly but honestly if you are paying Singer money, don't you get a Singer car?

https://duttongarage.com/PORSCHE-CARRERA-RS~50821

Here's my car though it might be a bit extreme for the commute....

[sidecar bob]

https://duttongarage.com/FERRARI-GT-DINO~50181

only the best looking car ever made by anyone anywhere. Millions of quatloos required.

They do a nice line in vintage Porsches (which is where my interests really are) but holy shitballs Batman, eye watering money. Worth it IF done properly but honestly if you are paying Singer money, don't you get a Singer car?

https://duttongarage.com/PORSCHE-CARRERA-RS~50821

Here's my car though it might be a bit extreme for the commute....
One of my teachers had a Dino in around '79-80, it was white & dissapeared for several months & came back in red.
Rumour was he had invested in an unheard of fruit company called Apple that was starting to go large.

[Laava]

The Fiat Dino Spider they have is beautiful too.

[Voltaire]

As much as I like Bevel Drive Ducatis....24K


The Ducati 900 GTS is one of those motorcycles that sits very close to the top of most motorcycle obsessed gentlemans wish lists. Originally released in 1978 as a replacement for the 860 GTS, the 900cc engine was made using 2 x 450cc sleeves from Ducatis single cylinder motorcycle range.
The 900 GTS used the engine as a stressed frame-member, helping to reduce weight and increase frame rigidity. The 900cc v-twin is widely considered to be one of Ducatis finest and is certainly one of the best looking
1978 Ducati 900 GTS at only $24,990
Widely considered back in the day as the uglist thing they ever built.
The whole series uses the engine as a stressed member....
Its never been on my list other than when they were cheap a good base for a fake SS
Rant over.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1076004884.jpg

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1941086500.htm?rsqid=6b9a08b5b4194a358b480c959ffc9 0c7-003

[sidecar bob]

As much as I like Bevel Drive Ducatis....24K


Widely considered back in the day as the uglist thing they ever built.
The whole series uses the engine as a stressed member....



They're a stressed member as soon as they're running, closely followed by the rider.:msn-wink:
You could have three nice CB750/4's for that & clean fingernails.

[Voltaire]

They're a stressed member as soon as they're running, closely followed by the rider.:msn-wink:
You could have three nice CB750/4's for that & clean fingernails.

Sensing your not a fan. Had a 500/4 but no wish to own any more car engine bikes.:msn-wink:

[Grumph]

Sensing your not a fan. Had a 500/4 but no wish to own any more car engine bikes.:msn-wink:

Really ? The R50 is just two Isettas....

[sidecar bob]

Sensing your not a fan. Had a 500/4 but no wish to own any more car engine bikes.:msn-wink:

I only have two pet hates in motorcycling, Ducatis & buckets, if you're into either I'm going to take the piss mercilessly.
Although I know some rather nice chaps that are into one or the other.

[Voltaire]

I only have two pet hates in motorcycling, Ducatis & buckets, if you're into either I'm going to take the piss mercilessly.
Although I know some rather nice chaps that are into one or the other.

Thinking next a 125 Ducati powered bucket would be a cool ride.

[Grumph]

Thinking next a 125 Ducati powered bucket would be a cool ride.

Several years back when a certain glasshouse manufacturer was on here I told him I knew where he could find a 125 MV for a bucket appropriate to his status...

[sidecar bob]

Several years back when a certain glasshouse manufacturer was on here I told him I knew where he could find a 125 MV for a bucket appropriate to his status...

I can supply a MV350 at the moment. It's just as bad as a Ducati. Don't want to end up on the optimistic sellers thread though.:shit:

[sidecar bob]

Thinking next a 125 Ducati powered bucket would be a cool ride.

As long as it's not a Ducati bucket sidecar we can still be chums.

[HenryDorsetCase]

They managed to describe a four door "coupe" (go figure) 1300 four speed fiat with silver painted steel wheels, a Haynes manual and some English made spot lamps screwed to the bumper as "desirable options"
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/fiat/auction-2203148139.htm
They pulled "est 1911" out of their arses too, the company was formed in 2012 & is Australian owned.

It has too many doors

[Voltaire]

As long as it's not a Ducati bucket sidecar we can still be chums.

I can't recall seeing a Ducati powered sidecar outfit here.

[F5 Dave]

As long as it's not a Ducati bucket sidecar we can still be chums.
How much oil do they hold?