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jellywrestler
9th February 2019, 10:48
17 grand and you'll not even fix the hole in the tank!




Born Free.

Enslaved by image.

and he appears to be a welder!

george formby
9th February 2019, 11:29
i uderstand the rest but the best TDM?
I could understand TRX.
Always loved the idea of the TDR but not 9300K

I'm very fond of my Tedium! It just does everything well with a nice sound track and never causes trouble. A TRX would look good in the shed, too.

husaberg
9th February 2019, 11:39
I'm very fond of my Tedium! It just does everything well with a nice sound track and never causes trouble. A TRX would look good in the shed, too.

I remember the first TDM i seen it looked like a giant banana.
http://www.tdmitalia.net/lemoto/colorazioni/tdm1994-1.jpg

george formby
9th February 2019, 12:51
I remember the first TDM i seen it looked like a giant banana.


:facepalm: Mine is yellow, too.

jasonu
9th February 2019, 13:12
17 grand and you'll not even fix the hole in the tank!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1937690282.htm?rsqid=2f83fc747ae34381b8a0f19f9a365 890


Born Free.

Enslaved by image.

What's Vegus?

F5 Dave
9th February 2019, 13:40
Wasn't she a singer;)

husaberg
9th February 2019, 14:54
Nah it was that place set up by bugs Bunny Seagull, I understand they even still farm wabbits their.
340807340806

JimO
9th February 2019, 15:06
What's Vegus?
he road it from there

george formby
9th February 2019, 17:23
he road it from there

The sellers problem is catching. He rowed it from Vagus.

F5 Dave
9th February 2019, 18:40
He roughed it?

Nah doesn't work.

He rideded it.

He roved it?

OK I'm done. Can't beat rowed it.

Although road is spectacularly dumb.

malcy25
10th February 2019, 22:09
I am not 100% sure what the Cylinders are, reed valve 347cc TZ700?
Not any TZ350 i ever seen was Reed Valves
Swingarm looks G on TZ350 yet frame looks to be earlier
Clutch is Wet so not TZ . Cover on left sider is early RDA/B
That said wheels look to be Morris but as they not painted they will likely be un-serviceable.
It says numbers matching i would say its a RD with very few Tz and some period bits
Forks are RD as is calipers Rev counter is RD but yokes might be TZ or aftermarket top yoke
Tank looks late TZ.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5580cf97e4b0c3dfd73c834a/55a53c19e4b0fb4a990eebc0/55a53ea5e4b01d30adbf3b0f/1438029986178/TZ750-TD1A+047.jpg


Seller doesn’t know shit from chewed dates. The only things tz are the , shock, cylinder, head, water pump and rad. The cyl and head are 74/75 700 tz750. Swing arm is not tz350. Shock is C-e 76-78 250/350. The rest is some poor rd350. The most valuable item is the tz bits and the lectron carbs. 68hp/187mph go racer. Lol....

husaberg
10th February 2019, 22:34
Seller doesn’t know shit from chewed dates. The only things tz are the , shock, cylinder, head, water pump and rad. The cyl and head are 74/75 700 tz750. Swing arm is not tz350. Shock is C-e 76-78 250/350. The rest is some poor rd350. The most valuable item is the tz bits and the lectron carbs. 68hp/187mph go racer. Lol....

So what do you reckon the swingarm is I never noticed the round top tube, looks mabye TS125ER with a bit welded on top.
The yokes although gull shaped still dont look righ to be TZ, t plus i think they were fatter forks on TZ than thr 34mm forks on the early RD, although i dont know what mm the TZ a/b Was

malcy25
11th February 2019, 10:50
So what do you reckon the swingarm is I never noticed the round top tube, looks mabye TS125ER with a bit welded on top.
The yokes although gull shaped still dont look righ to be TZ, t plus i think they were fatter forks on TZ than thr 34mm forks on the early RD, although i dont know what mm the TZ a/b Was

TR3/TD3 and TZ250 through to B model 1975 were 35 upper, 34mm below the bottom triple clamp. The lower tripe clamp looked very RD in that it was steel. The upper was very steeply raked and alloy. Those look more RD with the handle bar mounts ground and filled. RD alloy legs quite often got used with a disc brake conversion, but they are specced for 267mm disc....That is a 298mm disc. Probably why the caliper is not bolted on....

The yokes are not anything TZ from 1976 onwards. had enough of those in my hands over the years. The lower is alloy and 35mm through to 1980 when they went to 36mm legs (but tapered to 35mm at the top).

This is a 250F/G or 350F/G/H swing arm. https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/263584241283_/YAMAHA-TZ250-TZ350-SWINGARM-F-or-G.jpg

Mutton dressed as lamb...with extra mint sauce to hide it...

husaberg
11th February 2019, 11:22
TR3/TD3 and TZ250 through to B model 1975 were 35 upper, 34mm below the bottom triple clamp. The lower tripe clamp looked very RD in that it was steel. The upper was very steeply raked and alloy. Those look more RD with the handle bar mounts ground and filled. RD alloy legs quite often got used with a disc brake conversion, but they are specced for 267mm disc....That is a 298mm disc. Probably why the caliper is not bolted on....

The yokes are not anything TZ from 1976 onwards. had enough of those in my hands over the years. The lower is alloy and 35mm through to 1980 when they went to 36mm legs (but tapered to 35mm at the top).

This is a 250F/G or 350F/G/H swing arm. https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/263584241283_/YAMAHA-TZ250-TZ350-SWINGARM-F-or-G.jpg

Mutton dressed as lamb...with extra mint sauce to hide it...

Okay the RDs were 34mm A/B then 35mm the last 400 Daytona might have been thicker again they then thinned them on the LC.
The yamaha twins book i have has the TZ growing nearly every 2 years.
That said i have found some stuff wring in the twins book some of the suff like the chassis and the gear ratios they mention as only being on 400's were on the 250's as well.
Some have said they used to use the Steel Early caliper on the TZs as they were stronger and flexed less the Early TZ750 looked Steel though.
Pretty sure as long as its like for like 2 piston opposed A/B RD they bolt on to the TZ as the forks mounting were higher onthe TZ forks?
RD C models on were silly slider calipers i actually think the are not even R and L handed or different front to rear.

malcy25
11th February 2019, 15:00
Okay the RDs were 34mm A/B then 35mm the last 400 Daytona might have been thicker again they then thinned them on the LC.
The yamaha twins book i have has the TZ growing nearly every 2 years.
That said i have found some stuff wring in the twins book some of the suff like the chassis and the gear ratios they mention as only being on 400's were on the 250's as well.
Some have said they used to use the Steel Early caliper on the TZs as they were stronger and flexed less the Early TZ750 looked Steel though.
Pretty sure as long as its like for like 2 piston opposed A/B RD they bolt on to the TZ as the forks mounting were higher onthe TZ forks?
RD C models on were silly slider calipers i actually think the are not even R and L handed or different front to rear.

TZ fork dia didn't change again until L model in 84 when they went from 36mm of the G / 1980 to 40mm
C-E 76-78 TZ250/350 plus A-C 74-76 TZ750 had cast iron calipers identical to the RD two piston ones. People reckon there's a slight variation in a casting mark, but nothing really.
79-80 TZ250/350 F-G and D model / 77 onwards TZ750's had the alloy ribbed calipers (plus also the TZ125G). They flexed and many riders took them off. Even Roberts did on his works 500 used the same RD style cast iron ones in 78!
In 1981 with the new Powervalve TZ250H, they reverted to the cast iron black caliper and then in about 83 a new works style allow two piston caliper also found on the TZ500J.
All these calipers are interchangeable with each other. Yes, the caliper mounts are higher on the TZ's than the RD's as these all used 298mm discs.
Non of the TZ's ever used a sliding pin caliper.
McKellars Factory road racer Yamaha book is full of inaccuracies, which have been repeated as fact for many years. E.g, TZ750C model (1976) he quotes 40 being made with the first one as 409-100101 frame / engine number. Mine was higher than 409-100160 (in fact the highest serial for that year that any one has ever seen)and I know others which were higher than 409-100141 that he would have you believe was the highest.

husaberg
11th February 2019, 16:13
TZ fork dia didn't change again until L model in 84 when they went from 36mm of the G / 1980 to 40mm
C-E 76-78 TZ250/350 plus A-C 74-76 TZ750 had cast iron calipers identical to the RD two piston ones. People reckon there's a slight variation in a casting mark, but nothing really.
79-80 TZ250/350 F-G and D model / 77 onwards TZ750's had the alloy ribbed calipers (plus also the TZ125G). They flexed and many riders took them off. Even Roberts did on his works 500 used the same RD style cast iron ones in 78!
In 1981 with the new Powervalve TZ250H, they reverted to the cast iron black caliper and then in about 83 a new works style allow two piston caliper also found on the TZ500J.
All these calipers are interchangeable with each other. Yes, the caliper mounts are higher on the TZ's than the RD's as these all used 298mm discs.
Non of the TZ's ever used a sliding pin caliper.
McKellars Factory road racer Yamaha book is full of inaccuracies, which have been repeated as fact for many years. E.g, TZ750C model (1976) he quotes 40 being made with the first one as 409-100101 frame / engine number. Mine was higher than 409-100160 (in fact the highest serial for that year that any one has ever seen)and I know others which were higher than 409-100141 that he would have you believe was the highest.

My Mckellars one is just the Twins one.
I think i posted all the TZ stuff ages ago
link to follow
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=4882&attachmentid=327106
it says thicker forks F on 350 then G 250
Folder TZ
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=4882

Laava
12th February 2019, 22:46
HOLD THE PHONE! I have the alltime winner! Out of Utah, united state of amazement!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/82-KAWASAKI-KZ550-LTD-LEFT-RIGHT-FOOTPEG-FOOT-PEG-STEP-BRACKET-MOUNTING-BOLT/401689276455?hash=item5d868bf027:g:DqYAAOSwoJZXRxE 1

F5 Dave
13th February 2019, 06:16
Ha, but yeah it's just way to advertise he has all parts.

sidecar bob
13th February 2019, 07:41
Just needs a few nuts & bolts to get it running. . . .. Oh, maybe a few other things.
Call the scrap man.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1948767975.htm?rsqid=f8b6508a6cc64b1e8e81d510bad30 7b0
And no, it's not $200.

jellywrestler
13th February 2019, 08:18
Just needs a few nuts & bolts to get it running. . . .. Oh, maybe a few other things.
Call the scrap man.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1948767975.htm?rsqid=f8b6508a6cc64b1e8e81d510bad30 7b0
And no, it's not $200.

i'm pretty sure this is an ex race bike as they have their instruments in upside down sometimes.....

jellywrestler
13th February 2019, 08:33
HOLD THE PHONE! I have the alltime winner! Out of Utah, united state of amazement!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/82-KAWASAKI-KZ550-LTD-LEFT-RIGHT-FOOTPEG-FOOT-PEG-STEP-BRACKET-MOUNTING-BOLT/401689276455?hash=item5d868bf027:g:DqYAAOSwoJZXRxE 1

if you have a close look it has a link to all the parts they have for the machine, on trade me often you get a bike and 'auction is for one bolt' scenrio, ebay have stomped on this.
what is of concern is said bolt here is described to be in good condition though, not a great advert really

F5 Dave
13th February 2019, 11:55
Just needs a few nuts & bolts to get it running. . . .. Oh, maybe a few other things.
Call the scrap man.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1948767975.htm?rsqid=f8b6508a6cc64b1e8e81d510bad30 7b0
And no, it's not $200.

" would suit someone who has the time . . . "

What was Sean Connery's character in Highlander? He'd probably have the time.

Mike.Gayner
13th February 2019, 12:02
Oh boy instead of working on my fake classic I should let it sit in my garage and appreciate, which apparently it already has!!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1945220311.htm

Scubbo
13th February 2019, 12:50
Oh boy instead of working on my fake classic I should let it sit in my garage and appreciate, which apparently it already has!!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1945220311.htm

rediculous eh, when you can get the 800 with far less Ks - https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1921903432.htm?rsqid=82dd51c2114e4c1b97da33ca5a59e 2a8

Fresh Oats
13th February 2019, 15:16
i'm pretty sure this is an ex race bike as they have their instruments in upside down sometimes.....

What? why?

Laava
13th February 2019, 15:41
i'm pretty sure this is an ex race bike as they have their instruments in upside down sometimes.....
Yep, probably a factory race team by the look. The old dog collar holding half the handlebars in situ is a bit of a giveaway.

peanut
14th February 2019, 23:10
$20 grand for a Vespa with a "Mahogany Digital Veneer" (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-1827950162.htm).

That's a lot of money for a vinyl wrap...

Fresh Oats
15th February 2019, 17:11
$20 grand for a Vespa with a "Mahogany Digital Veneer" (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-1827950162.htm).

That's a lot of money for a vinyl wrap...

Wait, wasn't that advertised a couple months back? Someone posted it.

Fresh Oats
15th February 2019, 18:54
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1948774179.htm?rsqid=fa64efb731574e52ba71e332d4f85 142

Check out the comment section. What the fuck lol?

Laava
15th February 2019, 20:11
That is very interesting!

AllanB
15th February 2019, 20:42
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1948774179.htm?rsqid=fa64efb731574e52ba71e332d4f85 142

Check out the comment section. What the fuck lol?


WTF is right!

OddDuck
16th February 2019, 07:45
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1948774179.htm?rsqid=fa64efb731574e52ba71e332d4f85 142

Check out the comment section. What the fuck lol?

Looks like some sort of really personal bust-up to me... the thing is that it's two guys, Steve (who's listed the bike) and John (who reckons it's his bike). 4Keegan has weighed in on John's side and she's called Caroline... girlfriend? Mum? The other stuff flicked on TM is all generic flatting stuff like stereo, coffee machine, loudspeakers etc.

Well spotted Fresh Oats!

pritch
16th February 2019, 08:48
Yeah apparently his laptop too. Selling a guy's coffee machine though, that's serious.

Interesting situation and Fresh Oats' explanation hadn't occurred to me. The comment to the effect "you may be an innocent party in this" seems to make it even more complicated, and although TM have allegedly been advised the ownership is in dispute the bike is still listed.

Some people have complicated lives.

babysteps
16th February 2019, 17:44
They fit on my SV650 for exactly the same reason

Blackbird
16th February 2019, 21:13
And as an aside trainspotters , did you know that the riders foot pegs from a Buell bolt directly onto a Gen 2 Hayabusa? I have them on my bike .

Perfect fit. Lighter, lower and better looking than the chunky Suzuki originals.

And my GSX-S 1000. They just needed a slight re-bushing. Bought mine from Joe Satterwhite of the Hayabusa forum. He actually modifies them and does a beautiful job.

Laava
18th February 2019, 18:09
Lol!
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/186565-Full-custom-Honda-Zoomer?p=1131125414#post1131125414

russd7
18th February 2019, 18:15
Lol!
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/186565-Full-custom-Honda-Zoomer?p=1131125414#post1131125414

:gob: oh dear, really

Grumph
18th February 2019, 18:23
Takes the prize for the most overuse of the word "custom"....

HenryDorsetCase
18th February 2019, 19:22
Can I ride it to the HOG rally?

YellowDog
18th February 2019, 19:40
Lol!
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/186565-Full-custom-Honda-Zoomer?p=1131125414#post1131125414

A 50cc moped for $6,500 :sick:

Well and truly takes the biscuit :shit:

pete376403
18th February 2019, 21:42
A 50cc moped for $6,500 :sick:

Well and truly takes the biscuit :shit:

Maybe the price reflects the additional block of wood/

layton
18th February 2019, 22:25
i dont see exhaust wrap?... im confused.

also no brown seat?......

Cant be worth asking price.

Laava
18th February 2019, 23:02
It is kinda cool but if you were going to make something like that, surely you could start with a Burgman or something...

jellywrestler
19th February 2019, 03:47
It is kinda cool but if you were going to make something like that, surely you could start with a Burgman or something...

you spelt harley wrong

speedpro
19th February 2019, 06:01
It's sort of a thing in parts of the USA. The ones I've looked at were mostly 125+cc. Ruckus and Zuma scooters usually

Scubbo
19th February 2019, 06:27
It's sort of a thing in parts of the USA. The ones I've looked at were mostly 125+cc. Ruckus and Zuma scooters usually

exactly... popular enough for chinese clones to clone a fully "kitted" one for 1/4 the price :-P probably was fun to put together but at the end you'd be standing back going shit that was a money pit and now I dont want it...

pritch
19th February 2019, 11:35
That scooter needs a custom carrier for that block of wood. He says he is selling this so he can begin his next project, the mind boggles.

F5 Dave
19th February 2019, 12:12
The next project probably entails hire purchase of a new CB500 to remain deathly std after this exercise, - bar petrol, and topping up the indicator fluid.

AllanB
19th February 2019, 18:51
Another one. I don't know man, I just don't see them as a $10k collector bike....

I need to Google what the special had over the standard - maybe carbs that worked properly?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1440696234.htm?rsqid=5ef2a41440c94ab89fb27bd981faa fc6

AllanB
19th February 2019, 19:00
How much were these new?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1670234322.htm?rsqid=a73a5a1a22cd49afaab0366a38cc9 c6b

sidecar bob
19th February 2019, 19:02
Another one. I don't know man, I just don't see them as a $10k collector bike....

I need to Google what the special had over the standard - maybe carbs that worked properly?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1440696234.htm?rsqid=5ef2a41440c94ab89fb27bd981faa fc6

According to the blurb it's a five speed with alloys:facepalm:
Car dealer selling a motorbike.

AllanB
19th February 2019, 19:06
These are lovely, sought after and becoming increasingly collectible (often reaching original purchase price). It has had thousands spend on goodies, but as we know you really get that value back.

Going by the comments and interest I am quite wrong again. Be interesting to see what it goes for.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1793641011.htm?rsqid=664ebe7297a94ab8a18c198039436 c23

F5 Dave
19th February 2019, 19:26
I though those were a pretty lame attempt back then. That one however looks great.

30k is a large wedge to spend and not get a new bike.

Mind you 66k is worse.

F5 Dave
19th February 2019, 19:28
According to the blurb it's a five speed with alloys:facepalm:
Car dealer selling a motorbike.
Yeah as opposed to steels and 4 on the floor<_<

F5 Dave
19th February 2019, 19:37
Have to admire this guy for sheer pigheadedness, at least a year on and still not asking a sensible price.

He's probably old enough to shave by now.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1952325569.htm?rsqid=66c90978b2524bbf978bafd1d909f e6a

Scubbo
19th February 2019, 19:44
Have to admire this guy for sheer pigheadedness, at least a year on and still not asking a sensible price.

He's probably old enough to shave by now.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1952325569.htm?rsqid=66c90978b2524bbf978bafd1d909f e6a

it's his audition for male modelling school i'd think :laugh:

AllanB
19th February 2019, 20:02
Have to admire this guy for sheer pigheadedness, at least a year on and still not asking a sensible price.

He's probably old enough to shave by now.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1952325569.htm?rsqid=66c90978b2524bbf978bafd1d909f e6a


I give the seller bonus points for getting some side-boob in the photo ;)

HenryDorsetCase
19th February 2019, 20:23
Back in the day whenever I saw someone dressed like him at the pub or whereever I would think "Fucking psycho skinhead boot boy - avoid".

Now its just a "look" and he probably wants to share his vegan recipes and discuss Sartre.

Insufficient sideboob to hold my interest, too.

There was the chick in the red indian head dress on the Harley who also had a low cut singlet on. Unfortunately she was very flat chested though not unattractive :(

Voltaire
19th February 2019, 20:34
Another one. I don't know man, I just don't see them as a $10k collector bike....

I need to Google what the special had over the standard - maybe carbs that worked properly?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1440696234.htm?rsqid=5ef2a41440c94ab89fb27bd981faa fc6

What do Collectors do with bikes?
I find the Italian ones are good for collecting dust.
The Paso would have to be the least desirable Ducati ever...I'd rather have the 500 parallel twin.

sidecar bob
20th February 2019, 05:55
What do Collectors do with bikes?
I find the Italian ones are good for collecting dust.
The Paso would have to be the least desirable Ducati ever...I'd rather have the 500 parallel twin.

I realise the Paso are pretty shit, but I didn't realise they were quite that bad.:shit:

F5 Dave
20th February 2019, 06:03
Well, no you've hit on something I guess. If collecting dust is a real problem for a collector; the Puso would have to be the ultimate answer.

Bit of pledge and a wipe over has never been so easy with so much plastic surface area.

Voltaire
20th February 2019, 07:35
I realise the Paso are pretty shit, but I didn't realise they were quite that bad.:shit:

I first saw one in Frazers in '87 and have never warmed to them, a less than pretty engine wrapped up in school chair steel and plastic.

Apparently they make good organ donors.

Grumph
20th February 2019, 07:51
I first saw one in Frazers in '87 and have never warmed to them, a less than pretty engine wrapped up in school chair steel and plastic.

Apparently they make good organ donors.

Yes...Given how many were made vs how many have been parted out, the rarity value of the 750's particularly must have risen.
Could be worth finding an original example and tucking it away.

Bit like an Edsel - ugly as sin but now has a value out of all proportion.

HenryDorsetCase
20th February 2019, 08:12
The Paso would have to be the least desirable Ducati ever...I'd rather have the 500 parallel twin.

Wow, that's harsh

Voltaire
20th February 2019, 08:29
Wow, that's harsh

If its just for collecting dust, wins on looks.
I'm biased as own a Darmah.
https://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201205/1983-ducati-gtv-500_1600x0w.jpg

Oscar
20th February 2019, 09:34
The 500GTL made the Yamaha TX500 look like a reliable, desirable motorcycle.
Later Ducati V Twins required a cam belt change at 20,000km.
Those 500's were lucky to do 20,000kms before needing a new engine...


...if Italy had of developed that thing 35 years earlier, they would have had the best grenade of the war.

Voltaire
20th February 2019, 10:03
The 500GTL made the Yamaha TX500 look like a reliable, desirable motorcycle.
Later Ducati V Twins required a cam belt change at 20,000km.
Those 500's were lucky to do 20,000kms before needing a new engine...


...if Italy had of developed that thing 35 years earlier, they would have had the best grenade of the war.

Collectors like rare bikes, some are rare for a reason.
Oddly you can pick up those Suzuki Rotaries for not a lot.
Changing belts is hardly an onerous job.

jellywrestler
20th February 2019, 10:12
I realise the Paso are pretty shit, but I didn't realise they were quite that bad.:shit:

can't be that bad as he didn't mention the 350 parallel twin.....

jellywrestler
20th February 2019, 10:12
Collectors like rare bikes, some are rare for a reason.
Oddly you can pick up those Suzuki Rotaries for not a lot.
Changing belts is hardly an onerous job.

yeah but there's one on trade me every few weeks, hardly rare

HenryDorsetCase
20th February 2019, 10:51
Collectors like rare bikes, some are rare for a reason.
Oddly you can pick up those Suzuki Rotaries for not a lot.
Changing belts is hardly an onerous job.

one on fixed price offer from tard me a week ago for $11500 - NZ new 1975, racing red, and with the pencil box instruments. Only one to buy.

pritch
20th February 2019, 11:41
These are lovely, sought after and becoming increasingly collectible (often reaching original purchase price). It has had thousands spend on goodies, but as we know you really get that value back.


Back when these were being launched BIKE took two, one with the Paul Smart on board, to a Ducati event at a track in Italy. The detail is blurry now but I do seem to recall that the bike was rated one of the most uncomfortable ever, although that wouldn't have been uppermost in Mr Smart's mind back in the day.

Interesting exchange when they arrived at the venue car park. There were passes for them, but the passes were in the pits, and there was a very large, very serious looking security guard on the gate between them and the pits. With arm waving and pidjin Italian they tried to explain the situation. When they finished he nodded at the bikes, "Is Ducati, is OK."

Voltaire
20th February 2019, 11:56
Mate of mine has the non Paul Smart one.....buried in the back of his garage collecting dust.

jasonu
20th February 2019, 13:14
Another one. I don't know man, I just don't see them as a $10k collector bike....

I need to Google what the special had over the standard - maybe carbs that worked properly?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1440696234.htm?rsqid=5ef2a41440c94ab89fb27bd981faa fc6


What do Collectors do with bikes?
I find the Italian ones are good for collecting dust.
The Paso would have to be the least desirable Ducati ever...I'd rather have the 500 parallel twin.


I realise the Paso are pretty shit, but I didn't realise they were quite that bad.:shit:

For $3k less you could have an actual Ducati collectable.
(I've got my eye on this one...)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-Ducati-Superbike/113644068239?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

neels
22nd February 2019, 09:52
$2k for some of a motorcycle.

You'd think for that much it would at least have the exhaust wrap already done.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1959792891.htm?rsqid=0c587304488d4e53bfa9dfbd3250e 2b3

jellywrestler
22nd February 2019, 10:49
For $3k less you could have an actual Ducati collectable.
(I've got my eye on this one...)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-Ducati-Superbike/113644068239?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

managed to travel away three up on mine

F5 Dave
22nd February 2019, 12:46
$2k for some of a motorcycle.

You'd think for that much it would at least have the exhaust wrap already done.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1959792891.htm?rsqid=0c587304488d4e53bfa9dfbd3250e 2b3

Hahaha .

.

Paul in NZ
22nd February 2019, 12:51
Back in the day whenever I saw someone dressed like him at the pub or whereever I would think "Fucking psycho skinhead boot boy - avoid".

Now its just a "look" and he probably wants to share his vegan recipes and discuss Sartre.

:(

Or sell you some meth...

Drew
22nd February 2019, 15:17
$2k for some of a motorcycle.

You'd think for that much it would at least have the exhaust wrap already done.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1959792891.htm?rsqid=0c587304488d4e53bfa9dfbd3250e 2b3
He does say he's open to offers.

I quite like it.

neels
22nd February 2019, 17:12
He does say he's open to offers.

I quite like it.

Given how incomplete it is how open is open to offers? Not sure how the low seat would go with the cylinders sticking out, have visions of a bizarre riding position to avoid burns to the inside of the knees.

Drew
22nd February 2019, 17:15
Given how incomplete it is how open is open to offers? Not sure how the low seat would go with the cylinders sticking out, have visions of a bizarre riding position to avoid burns to the inside of the knees.

I'd have to see it in the flesh, but if it's all done well I should think it's a thousand bucks all day.

husaberg
22nd February 2019, 17:15
He does say he's open to offers.

I quite like it.

Yet for similar money you could have this.
Yes i know you love them
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1958586180.htm

Drew
22nd February 2019, 17:16
Yet for similar money you could have this.
Yes i know you love them
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1958586180.htm
That's nearly twice the coin , and $3k bid doesn't even own it. I'd much rather have the CX.

husaberg
22nd February 2019, 17:18
That's nearly twice the coin , and $3k bid doesn't even own it. I'd much rather have the CX.

Buy now 3800
if you want a GL/CX 400 there is an engine on TM for piss all $150
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/complete-engines/listing-1953703873.htm?rsqid=6bc6f90dc2e74ce9a45d78ff64162 6aa
If the mrs wasn't angy with me at the moment or it was in the same island i would buy it to put in a Mircobuggy
that ratbike is going to need big dollars to get it legal.

Katman
22nd February 2019, 18:00
If the mrs wasn't angy with me at the moment....

Did she catch you at the neighbours washing line again?

F5 Dave
22nd February 2019, 20:40
Or restore it to Euro spec using approved Honda parts whilst cultivating a snazzy moustache.

Drew
22nd February 2019, 21:18
Buy now 3800
if you want a GL/CX 400 there is an engine on TM for piss all $150
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/complete-engines/listing-1953703873.htm?rsqid=6bc6f90dc2e74ce9a45d78ff64162 6aa
If the mrs wasn't angy with me at the moment or it was in the same island i would buy it to put in a Mircobuggy
that ratbike is going to need big dollars to get it legal.
I've got a CX400 motor sitting in my garage all set up to mount in anything.

husaberg
22nd February 2019, 21:39
I've got a CX400 motor sitting in my garage all set up to mount in anything.

Why then waste 2g on that pile


Did she catch you at the neighbours washing line again?

My neighbours are more than a few hundred meters away I am not sure if they even have washing lines so unlikely.
Thanks for sharing another one of your fetishes though, we will add that to the loitering around the public toilets and the begging random dude to perform fellatio that also appeal to you.

Drew
23rd February 2019, 06:29
Why then waste 2g on that pile

Oh, I wont be spending anything on it. But I like it and I said I'd go a grand for it if I was going to.

Think i spent $200 on all the stuff to make my street tracker legal, speedo, lights, switch blocks, and a whole bunch of other stuff. That CX wouldn't cost fuck all to get to an awesome rat bike.

sidecar bob
25th February 2019, 08:09
Look mum, no brakes.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1963842250.htm?rsqid=51b2393949194dad9cfbaf2ac8b6a 495

husaberg
25th February 2019, 09:46
Look mum, no brakes.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1963842250.htm?rsqid=51b2393949194dad9cfbaf2ac8b6a 495

Norton logo on the engines a nice touch
there is 1g just there.

pritch
25th February 2019, 10:23
Norton logo on the engines a nice touch
there is 1g just there.

And another for the brown seat? The enemy is close, that bike is local here.

F5 Dave
25th February 2019, 12:14
Look at those nasty gold detail touches. . .

Oh. Wait. . That was factory 'midnight I'm very special' version.

F5 Dave
25th February 2019, 12:23
Oh. It's not available until April. Takes a while to apply the exhaust wrap.

Have to see if it still employs Flintstone feet brakes. Bet that would be fun explaining to a wof dude. Where's the camera? It's not my birthday till next week. Johnno sent you yeah?

husaberg
25th February 2019, 13:02
Oh. It's not available until April. Takes a while to apply the exhaust wrap.

Have to see if it still employs Flintstone feet brakes. Bet that would be fun explaining to a wof dude. Where's the camera? It's not my birthday till next week. Johnno sent you yeah?

You are missing an opportunity here dave didn't you say you had the Triumph calipers with the right spacing for the Yams of that period RZ etc


And another for the brown seat? The enemy is close, that bike is local here.
Missed the seat colour, the tank is that late Kawsaki retro?
I always liked the look of those engines (XJ750)
i remember the XJ600's fondly they were a nice middle weight but clearly no ace rep so they died out.
https://img.tipcars.com/fotky_velke/08676847_5/1532984918/E/yamaha-xj-600.jpg
Can't remember the last time i seen one they were pretty common

jasonu
25th February 2019, 13:14
You are missing an opportunity here dave didn't you say you had the Triumph calipers with the right spacing for the Yams of that period RZ etc


Missed the seat colour, the tank is that late Kawsaki retro?
I always liked the look of those engines (XJ750)
i remember the XJ600's fondly they were a nice middle weight but clearly no ace rep so they died out.
https://img.tipcars.com/fotky_velke/08676847_5/1532984918/E/yamaha-xj-600.jpg
Can't remember the last time i seen one they were pretty common

Looks vaguely familiar...
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husaberg
25th February 2019, 14:55
Looks vaguely familiar...
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one sort or modern Triumph 4 pots bolt on to the RZ's.
http://www.2smoked.com/Yamaha_RD_%26_RZ_upgrades_-_Triumph_calipers.html
I cant see them being that different.
Check out the spacing and see if they are 83mm

You might also find the big Bremos discs bolt on as well. although you will need a new bracket then.
If you want to keep it period looking there are other bigger Yamaha discs or even fork bottoms.

Drew
25th February 2019, 15:25
Had an XJ900 for a while. Bloody good bike, proved to many a person that shaft drives wheelie just fine.

neels
25th February 2019, 15:36
i remember the XJ600's fondly they were a nice middle weight but clearly no ace rep so they died out.

Can't remember the last time i seen one they were pretty common

Haven't seen the one I used to own since I sold it, was still running fine when it left my place with 80k on it.

I think like a lot of the less exotic 80's stuff they got parked when the exhaust rotted out and at the time they weren't worth the money to bother fixing, once they've been sitting for a few years and the rego is dead it's a long way back.

husaberg
25th February 2019, 15:45
Haven't seen the one I used to own since I sold it, was still running fine when it left my place with 80k on it.

I think like a lot of the less exotic 80's stuff they got parked when the exhaust rotted out and at the time they weren't worth the money to bother fixing, once they've been sitting for a few years and the rego is dead it's a long way back.
It just seems odd they are not the ones being dragged out by the hipsters for the Brown seat and ex wrap treatment on mass maybe they are to modern looking.
They were a usefull bike dont see many GT750 Kawasaki's either they were common arround the same time.


Had an XJ900 for a while. Bloody good bike, proved to many a person that shaft drives wheelie just fine.
I had a feeling Richard Scott proddy raced one at the Castrol or something

roogazza
25th February 2019, 16:51
Looks vaguely familiar...
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Is that your one Jason ? I like it,maybe not the headlight thingy,but the rest of it.:shifty::confused:

neels
25th February 2019, 19:56
It just seems odd they are not the ones being dragged out by the hipsters for the Brown seat and ex wrap treatment on mass maybe they are to modern looking.
They were a usefull bike dont see many GT750 Kawasaki's either they were common arround the same time.
Probably a bit hard to hipster with the fairing and square headlight, and big cast bit behind the seat, monoshock not really the right look either.

Have been keeping an eye out for one, great fun to ride, and look good with the slash cut 4-1

speedpro
25th February 2019, 20:04
I can practically hear the pistons rattling and the moan from the carbs before it comes on the pipes. I can see the trail of blue smoke fading away as it it clears it's throat. Aahhh!

AllanB
25th February 2019, 20:21
A couple GT750's on TM presently. They were very nice bikes in the day - bike of the year at least once if I remember correctly.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1867066669.htm?rsqid=b5dcb101da784e5db2389cff37dd1 733

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1953701531.htm?rsqid=b5dcb101da784e5db2389cff37dd1 733

layton
25th February 2019, 20:33
A couple GT750's on TM presently. They were very nice bikes in the day - bike of the year at least once if I remember correctly.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1867066669.htm?rsqid=b5dcb101da784e5db2389cff37dd1 733

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1953701531.htm?rsqid=b5dcb101da784e5db2389cff37dd1 733

The bottom auction is a great example of what a good trade me listing should be!

I like it

jasonu
26th February 2019, 05:48
Is that your one Jason ? I like it,maybe not the headlight thingy,but the rest of it.:shifty::confused:

Yep mine.
I'm not totally sold on the little fairing either. Maybe when it is painted it might look a little better. If not, in the bin it goes, it was $19 on ebay so no real loss.

jasonu
26th February 2019, 05:49
I can practically hear the pistons rattling and the moan from the carbs before it comes on the pipes. I can see the trail of blue smoke fading away as it it clears it's throat. Aahhh!

It goes like a shower of shit!!!
Like riding a giant bucket.

tanken2
28th February 2019, 22:35
I can practically hear the pistons rattling and the moan from the carbs before it comes on the pipes. I can see the trail of blue smoke fading away as it it clears it's throat. Aahhh!

my god that brings back memories, don't regret the two H2s I had the pleasure of owning.

peanut
3rd March 2019, 14:43
What does the brains trust think about this (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1963538270.htm)?

AllanB
3rd March 2019, 16:12
What does the brains trust think about this (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1963538270.htm)?


A good base for a custom or rat bike. Something of a bitza - kms?????? appear way too low.

Price???? Not up on my Guzzis but as it is a non origional, it may be reaching. Or not.

Voltaire
3rd March 2019, 16:28
Price is a bit high for non standard, but as its a Tonti frame, with decent forks and spoked wheels would make a nice replica of my fav.
Other than the earlier being a 'round barrel'.
I've only ridden a Cali once and didn't really like the riding position.
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/e758eb_53c51f25a1b841e6aac5547633018bd8~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_630,h_419,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/e758eb_53c51f25a1b841e6aac5547633018bd8~mv2.jpg

jasonu
3rd March 2019, 18:02
Price is a bit high for non standard, but as its a Tonti frame, with decent forks and spoked wheels would make a nice replica of my fav.
Other than the earlier being a 'round barrel'.
I've only ridden a Cali once and didn't really like the riding position.
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/e758eb_53c51f25a1b841e6aac5547633018bd8~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_630,h_419,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/e758eb_53c51f25a1b841e6aac5547633018bd8~mv2.jpg

Looks like an over priced big fat ill handling gutless walrus.

AllanB
3rd March 2019, 18:06
Looks like an over priced big fat ill handling gutless walrus.


It gave me rumblings in my shorts :yes:

Laava
4th March 2019, 19:53
The new Yamaha Lolwtf 500
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1950812244.htm?rsqid=c5932de5590749af8388c44c9518a 59e

AllanB
4th March 2019, 19:55
The new Yamaha Lolwtf 500
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1950812244.htm?rsqid=c5932de5590749af8388c44c9518a 59e

Interesting ...............

pete376403
5th March 2019, 06:48
Never seen mechanical antidive using a drum brake before

Blackbird
5th March 2019, 07:58
Never seen mechanical antidive using a drum brake before

I'm pretty sure I know that bike and the guy who built it - he was a project engineer at the pulp and paper mill near Tokoroa. I remember one or two people riding it and saying how impressed they were with the anti-dive and that would have been some time in the 80s. If it's the same chap who has it up for sale, he's owned it an awful long time.

husaberg
5th March 2019, 09:03
The new Yamaha Lolwtf 500
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1950812244.htm?rsqid=c5932de5590749af8388c44c9518a 59e


Interesting ...............

Isnt that interesting that a Xt500 with a different tank looks better than than a SR500.;)

pete376403
5th March 2019, 18:34
I'm pretty sure I know that bike and the guy who built it - he was a project engineer at the pulp and paper mill near Tokoroa. I remember one or two people riding it and saying how impressed they were with the anti-dive and that would have been some time in the 80s. If it's the same chap who has it up for sale, he's owned it an awful long time.
Kawasaki did a mech antidive like that but with disk brakes.

F5 Dave
5th March 2019, 20:56
Well lots of people did, but the answer was proper shim type valving and appropriate springs all along.

pete376403
5th March 2019, 21:04
Kawasaki KR500

husaberg
5th March 2019, 23:03
Cagiva 94
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An Old MX book i have has al sorts of antidive stuff in it from the late 70's with Drum braked Mx bikes

HenryDorsetCase
6th March 2019, 11:29
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1971758711.htm?rsqid=8b19bb4c02c943e99313638ca8c9f e63


8250 start bid is up there. $15k buy it now he is dreaming. Particularly since he discloses that the tank will need repainting, and the tyres replacing before its properly roadworthy.

I do want it but not that much. I have a lot of fond memories of a mid-80's RZ350.

Were the frames red back in the day or is that an enhancement inflicted by the current owner? If you had asked me I would have said the frames were black.

jellywrestler
6th March 2019, 12:54
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1971758711.htm?rsqid=8b19bb4c02c943e99313638ca8c9f e63


8250 start bid is up there. $15k buy it now he is dreaming. Particularly since he discloses that the tank will need repainting, and the tyres replacing before its properly roadworthy.

I do want it but not that much. I have a lot of fond memories of a mid-80's RZ350.

Were the frames red back in the day or is that an enhancement inflicted by the current owner? If you had asked me I would have said the frames were black.

pretty sure they were red

HenryDorsetCase
6th March 2019, 16:05
pretty sure they were red

I googled at lunchtime and we're both right. there were red and black ones.

I also now have the horn for a 392 kitted RZ with a modern front end and 17 inch wheels. ......

Drew
6th March 2019, 16:50
I googled at lunchtime and we're both right. there were red and black ones.

I also now have the horn for a 392 kitted RZ with a modern front end and 17 inch wheels. ......
So you can have almost as good a bike as a modern 600, for at least twice the money.

roogazza
6th March 2019, 16:52
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1971758711.htm?rsqid=8b19bb4c02c943e99313638ca8c9f e63


8250 start bid is up there. $15k buy it now he is dreaming. Particularly since he discloses that the tank will need repainting, and the tyres replacing before its properly roadworthy.

I do want it but not that much. I have a lot of fond memories of a mid-80's RZ350.

Were the frames red back in the day or is that an enhancement inflicted by the current owner? If you had asked me I would have said the frames were black.

If the owner took off the 6 grand he spent on the engine it would be closer to a price. Still not enough to entice me to ride one again (had a new 250 around 83). But they were good in their day.

F5 Dave
6th March 2019, 16:54
I had the F2 which was black frame. How did he spend 6k on recon and paint?

I had a horn for a 496 kitted one but it's still not come to fruition despite being in the garage.

husaberg
6th March 2019, 17:04
I had the F2 which was black frame. How did he spend 6k on recon and paint?

I had a horn for a 496 kitted one but it's still not come to fruition despite being in the garage.

I would say to rebuild a Yam twin with new bearing and seals using OEM parts and no labour it would be 2g in parts.

Grumph
6th March 2019, 18:15
I would say to rebuild a Yam twin with new bearing and seals using OEM parts and no labour it would be 2g in parts.

About 6 years ago I rebuilt an air cooled RD350. Parts ex the US, crank by Barry Lynch incl sleeving the center for the lab seal, boring, blasting, case paint and polishing. No change out of $2G back then. Don't know who'd do the cranks now.

husaberg
6th March 2019, 18:47
About 6 years ago I rebuilt an air cooled RD350. Parts ex the US, crank by Barry Lynch incl sleeving the center for the lab seal, boring, blasting, case paint and polishing. No change out of $2G back then. Don't know who'd do the cranks now.

I think i got the figure from you :whistle:
Did you see that bit the other day i posted about how Suzuki and Kawaski never line bored the cases mains in one operation like Yamaha did that why they wont last to long with lab seals.
Supposedly measured in 100's of miles with the Kawkas

Grumph
6th March 2019, 19:22
I think i got the figure from you :whistle:
Did you see that bit the other day i posted about how Suzuki and Kawaski never line bored the cases mains in one operation like Yamaha did that why they wont last to long with lab seals.
Supposedly measured in 100's of miles with the Kawkas

If that is so, It'd be interesting to talk to the pom who's done fours and sixes from kawas - 2T and 4T.
He welds using mandrels apparently. If anyone would know how far out they are it'd be him.

husaberg
6th March 2019, 19:28
If that is so, It'd be interesting to talk to the pom who's done fours and sixes from kawas - 2T and 4T.
He welds using mandrels apparently. If anyone would know how far out they are it'd be him.

Yeah but pretty sure he line bores them afterwards. okay maybe not
I cant understand how he welds thse oil soaked 70's castings but says its easy.
I had posted his making a 4 cylinder wc KawaYamaha LC.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/171300-Oddball-engines-and-prototypes?p=1131103501#post1131103501
Hes was a legend even with just the V twin Honda 90 and the Massive V twin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=138&v=WlfHXvV68yk
it came from a guy that builds cranks i will see if i saved it.
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http://triplescanada.proboards.com/thread/11000/labyrinth-seals

Laava
6th March 2019, 21:25
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1974521267.htm?rsqid=ee2b1471d95649ffb9623b6a4b467 058
While not a complete pile of shit, the guy cannot be arsed getting it road legal to sell so is looking for a gullible buyer. Didn't even wipe off the dust!

AllanB
6th March 2019, 21:33
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1974521267.htm?rsqid=ee2b1471d95649ffb9623b6a4b467 058
While not a complete pile of shit, the guy cannot be arsed getting it road legal to sell so is looking for a gullible buyer. Didn't even wipe off the dust!

In a hurry to list I guess. Just needs a guard for a WOF.

I don't understand people who don't do that before selling. Then again maybe he's in a wheelchair now .... who knows.

Just quietly I don't see where the $15k spent went.

Laava
6th March 2019, 21:34
I actually quite like this, but not in an own it kind of a way! Pretty sure the same guuy did this treatment to a VX800 as well.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1955662534.htm?rsqid=4ca645929e364f41bec6d62faba5e 508

Laava
6th March 2019, 21:40
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1912774872.htm?rsqid=4ca645929e364f41bec6d62faba5e 508

Lol! It has a pissy little engine with a fake plastic v twin mounted in front of it!

F5 Dave
7th March 2019, 06:28
Just wait for the 2020 Hardley line up to steal that idea.

malcy25
7th March 2019, 06:33
About 6 years ago I rebuilt an air cooled RD350. Parts ex the US, crank by Barry Lynch incl sleeving the center for the lab seal, boring, blasting, case paint and polishing. No change out of $2G back then. Don't know who'd do the cranks now.

Parts will still be similar price. I totaled up to do the 750 the other day and ca
To $4k and it’s just 2x 350s

HenryDorsetCase
7th March 2019, 09:13
Yeah but pretty sure he line bores them afterwards. okay maybe not
I cant understand how he welds thse oil soaked 70's castings but says its easy.
I had posted his making a 4 cylinder wc KawaYamaha LC.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/171300-Oddball-engines-and-prototypes?p=1131103501#post1131103501
Hes was a legend even with just the V twin Honda 90 and the Massive V twin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=138&v=WlfHXvV68yk
it came from a guy that builds cranks i will see if i saved it.
341164
http://triplescanada.proboards.com/thread/11000/labyrinth-seals

I think Allen Millyard's day job is designing and or building nuclear reactors so welding up some shitty porous old scabby castings would be a piece of piss for him. I've not seen a bike of his I didnt like.

HenryDorsetCase
7th March 2019, 09:20
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1974521267.htm?rsqid=ee2b1471d95649ffb9623b6a4b467 058
While not a complete pile of shit, the guy cannot be arsed getting it road legal to sell so is looking for a gullible buyer. Didn't even wipe off the dust!

6 grand for that is good buying.... but of course start is not reserve.

Voltaire
22nd March 2019, 16:41
This one ticks all the boxes,
cheapish, exhaust wrap, matt black and comes with a blow up doll.....
Sex sells.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/999842889.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1995234499.htm?rsqid=17e0fe93151e48459d3ee7d0a5de8 262

Drew
22nd March 2019, 17:08
This one ticks all the boxes,
cheapish, exhaust wrap, matt black and comes with a blow up doll.....
Sex sells.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/999842889.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1995234499.htm?rsqid=17e0fe93151e48459d3ee7d0a5de8 262
There's nothing wrong with the price.

The pipes are likely fucked, and the mufflers are definitely hideous.

Wrong thread for it, I'd buy it for my Dad if I had the coin.

sidecar bob
22nd March 2019, 17:38
There's nothing wrong with the price.

The pipes are likely fucked, and the mufflers are definitely hideous.

Wrong thread for it, I'd buy it for my Dad if I had the coin.

You missed out on my GPZ500 for your dad, sold three days ago.
I'd even have delivered it & got a ride home with his rural postie that makes my bed.
How would he like a Burgman 250 tho?

jellywrestler
22nd March 2019, 17:52
There's nothing wrong with the price.

The pipes are likely fucked, and the mufflers are definitely hideous.

Wrong thread for it, I'd buy it for my Dad if I had the coin.

if the pipes aren't fucked they will be soon, exhaust wrap is great for adding patina to you bike, run it a few times with this shit on and then unwrap it and they look thirty years older, leave it more and all you have is rust flakes and wrap

jellywrestler
22nd March 2019, 18:12
This one ticks all the boxes,
cheapish, exhaust wrap, matt black and comes with a blow up doll.....
Sex sells.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/999842889.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1995234499.htm?rsqid=17e0fe93151e48459d3ee7d0a5de8 262

one wonders whether one mudflap is oversized compared with the other ?

husaberg
22nd March 2019, 19:04
one wonders whether one mudflap is oversized compared with the other ?

has koni dial a ride they were at least $350 or 500 back in the day.

F5 Dave
22nd March 2019, 19:10
Gawd those are awful. Had a friend with one back in the 80s and she thought it was exotic. It wasn't.

sidecar bob
24th March 2019, 08:40
Barbz is hating on me:no:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1997352326

husaberg
24th March 2019, 12:45
Barbz is hating on me:no:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1997352326

Anyone considered strapping two or 4 of these together to make a chariot.

Drew
24th March 2019, 13:22
Barbz is hating on me:no:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1997352326

We could make a cool toy from those.

husaberg
24th March 2019, 14:43
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/07/article-0-1F7221D400000578-508_638x464.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49PiIcxw8HQ
I knew seen this one i guess there is no original ideas

i had seen these ones years ago
http://media.galaxant.com/000/082/099/desktop-1412871066.jpg

sidecar bob
24th March 2019, 16:31
We could make a cool toy from those.

I'd be happy running them as a two bike team in the Hyo cup.

Drew
24th March 2019, 16:43
I'd be happy running them as a two bike team in the Hyo cup.

Ok, but they have to be green and black.

HenryDorsetCase
3rd April 2019, 12:30
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2010751217.htm?rsqid=aee93585395447a593a75754330b3 092


Looks cool. In fact looks like a GB400TT Mk 2. 8 grand brand new.

My concern would be build quality, parts backup/spares and so forth.

There are a lot of back yarders who are buying a containerload of shit out of China, floggin it to unsuspecting punters, trousering the profits never to be seen or heard of again. Remember those awful mini-choppers? Forza? Skyteam?

jasonu
3rd April 2019, 16:06
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2010751217.htm?rsqid=aee93585395447a593a75754330b3 092


Looks cool. In fact looks like a GB400TT Mk 2. 8 grand brand new.

My concern would be build quality, parts backup/spares and so forth.

There are a lot of back yarders who are buying a containerload of shit out of China, floggin it to unsuspecting punters, trousering the profits never to be seen or heard of again. Remember those awful mini-choppers? Forza? Skyteam?

$8k for a gutless 400cc 4 stroke with chinese pot metal cast parts.

Scubbo
3rd April 2019, 16:12
you too can be as awkward as this guy

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0596/4249/files/apollo-banner-5.jpg

OddDuck
3rd April 2019, 18:11
$8K gets you a fair lot of bike in the second hand market... and for $10.5 ish K you can get a new Enfield Interceptor / GT 650 twin... I'd save the extra two and a half grand.

It didn't take much googling to find this review on Reddit for a Sol Invictus Mercury 250 or Nemesis 400:

"Chinese trash that will fall apart. Yes they will fix it under warranty, but then the replacement will also fall apart just as fast.

When it comes to selling it on second hand, you will be getting the scrap value plus a fiver."

Ouch!!

F5 Dave
5th April 2019, 06:05
Well at least the tailpiece , despite strange tilt, is more 900SS so looks a fuck site better than most 'Cafe' attempts.

Ready for another SR400 debacle HDC?:msn-wink:

F5 Dave
5th April 2019, 06:43
Well here's a 400 for 1/2 the price.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2011411897.htm?rsqid=8664a38dae1543a59dd607390f912 18e


Although, - piss off as well.

HenryDorsetCase
5th April 2019, 09:02
Well at least the tailpiece , despite strange tilt, is more 900SS so looks a fuck site better than most 'Cafe' attempts.

Ready for another SR400 debacle HDC?:msn-wink:

Fuck no.

I have been thinking about a hot RZ350 powered FZR400......

pritch
5th April 2019, 09:11
"Sol Invictus introduces the 2019 Apollo Café Racer"

For some strange reason that doesn't fill me with excitement the way it was probably intended to.

F5 Dave
5th April 2019, 11:42
Fuck no.

I have been thinking about a hot RZ350 powered FZR400......

Not a bad thing to be thinking about. 3MA TZR frame would be better.

jasonu
5th April 2019, 13:15
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2013427397.htm?rsqid=3022e15468954bdfb8942c4c06840 230

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9O6pCYyelA

F5 Dave
5th April 2019, 18:47
I remember when I first saw one of those. Accidentally shipped here apparently. Still was pretty cool next to my MB50.

Rat shot next to an RG50.

husaberg
5th April 2019, 19:10
I remember when I first saw one of those. Accidentally shipped here apparently. Still was pretty cool next to my MB50.

Rat shot next to an RG50.

There was another one for sale about 9 months back in Yellow, there are very neat looking bikes regardless of scale.
Thats what the LC should have looked like.
I sat my learner skill check on a GT50 it had a front disc and mag wheels but i cant remember if it was air cooled or not, never seen any others the same.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/c2/25/b1c225132e7d715445b05eb587201487.jpg

F5 Dave
5th April 2019, 19:22
How else would it have been cooled? By the sea if you rode into it?

husaberg
5th April 2019, 19:29
How else would it have been cooled? By the sea if you rode into it?
By teen spirit
I wrote the text before i googled the pic, having a disc back then was pretty cool in itself.
I used my mates 50 as it was easier on the slalom course. I dont think i ever rode it again or before it was sold of the one of the older greys for a bucket.
I sat my restricted on a 1955 FB falcon. That i still have it.

Drew
6th April 2019, 06:57
I sat my restricted on a 1955 FB falcon. That i still have it.

This Falcon, I'm optimistic that you might sell it. Should it not be a rusted heap of shit.

husaberg
6th April 2019, 08:06
This Falcon, I'm optimistic that you might sell it. Should it not be a rusted heap of shit.

Google 1955 FB falcon i suspect you are thing ford oval rather than Coventry 2 stroke

YellowDog
6th April 2019, 08:27
Never been a fan of any road vehicle that is less powerful than my lawn mover.

Though my first new bike purchase was actually a Suzuki GP100, but didn't cost anywhere near $3.5k :no:

Looked identical to this one:

https://classic-motorbikes.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/8645.jpg

Pound
6th April 2019, 10:43
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1968342868.htm?rsqid=4950e3f5acca46c28e31efcad294e 0da

That's a great sales pitch....:rolleyes:

F5 Dave
6th April 2019, 11:46
Never been a fan of any road vehicle that is less powerful than my lawn mover.

Though my first new bike purchase was actually a Suzuki GP100, but didn't cost anywhere near $3.5k :no:

Looked identical to this one:

https://classic-motorbikes.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/8645.jpg

That's 10- 11hp at the rear. I want to see your lawnmower. :banana:

F5 Dave
6th April 2019, 11:53
What the fuck?..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2012445621.htm?rsqid=f59ae2a9a0ee4acab9c1a3cf0a730 423

Ok read further, 1200km, "fit for museum".

But who would want to go see one of those ? <_<

That would be a pearler 4k touring hack to go do lots of miles on. Seems like it was just a complete waste of a workhorse.

Laava
6th April 2019, 12:02
What the fuck?..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2012445621.htm?rsqid=f59ae2a9a0ee4acab9c1a3cf0a730 423

Ok read further, 1200km, "fit for museum".

But who would want to go see one of those ? <_<

That would be a pearler 4k touring hack to go do lots of miles on. Seems like it was just a complete waste of a workhorse.
Someone has missed out on 10 grands worth of touring...

Voltaire
6th April 2019, 12:03
What the fuck?..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2012445621.htm?rsqid=f59ae2a9a0ee4acab9c1a3cf0a730 423

Ok read further, 1200km, "fit for museum".

But who would want to go see one of those ? <_<

That would be a pearler 4k touring hack to go do lots of miles on. Seems like it was just a complete waste of a workhorse.

I asked my mate that when he sent me a photo of a Morris 1000 line up here...clearly a demand....:innocent:

https://www.britishcarmuseum.co.nz/

AllanB
6th April 2019, 12:12
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1968342868.htm?rsqid=4950e3f5acca46c28e31efcad294e 0da

That's a great sales pitch....:rolleyes:

WTF did they cost new? That's mighty expensive coin.

pritch
6th April 2019, 12:34
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1968342868.htm?rsqid=4950e3f5acca46c28e31efcad294e 0da

That's a great sales pitch....:rolleyes:

Has the look of having been seized as part of a drugs bust.

jasonu
6th April 2019, 12:36
What the fuck?..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2012445621.htm?rsqid=f59ae2a9a0ee4acab9c1a3cf0a730 423

Ok read further, 1200km, "fit for museum".

But who would want to go see one of those ? <_<

That would be a pearler 4k touring hack to go do lots of miles on. Seems like it was just a complete waste of a workhorse.

it would have to be a museum for bland forgettable stuff.

FlangMasterJ
6th April 2019, 13:58
Well here's a 400 for 1/2 the price.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2011411897.htm?rsqid=8664a38dae1543a59dd607390f912 18e


Although, - piss off as well.

The Q & A is going well.

Yokomama
7th April 2019, 07:33
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2014895264.htm?rsqid=86a61958d423425e9d33bcf8c99d2 568

YellowDog
7th April 2019, 08:59
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2014895264.htm?rsqid=86a61958d423425e9d33bcf8c99d2 568

THAT colour suits THAT fabulous custom vehicle SOOOOOOO well :no:

AllanB
7th April 2019, 09:23
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2014895264.htm?rsqid=86a61958d423425e9d33bcf8c99d2 568

Cafe Racer my arse-hole.

pzkpfw
7th April 2019, 10:32
The Q & A is going well.

Also, they've picked up on the km, but not the cc.

AllanB
7th April 2019, 13:56
Also, they've picked up on the km, but not the cc.

It appears to be the most reliable GN ever at 400,000 plus kms ....

husaberg
7th April 2019, 16:30
The brown seat and pipe wrap wob have moved onto 1990's Repli racers now, shame they are some of my fav bikes
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-2001793565.htm?rsqid=38ba8b5af87e47ac9d42fd9249cfe e90

I should say i pulled apart a decent bike through some mismatch parts at it then realised WTF
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1966423609.htm?rsqid=9afae01723554489aea0af3eaa224 fb9

onearmedbandit
7th April 2019, 19:00
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1968342868.htm?rsqid=4950e3f5acca46c28e31efcad294e 0da

That's a great sales pitch....:rolleyes:

I'm guessing anyone seriously considering that bike doesn't need a sales pitch.

F5 Dave
7th April 2019, 19:39
The brown seat and pipe wrap wob have moved onto 1990's Repli racers now, same they are some of my fav bikes
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-2001793565.htm?rsqid=38ba8b5af87e47ac9d42fd9249cfe e90

I should say i pulled apart a decent bike through some mismatch parts at it then realised WTF
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1966423609.htm?rsqid=9afae01723554489aea0af3eaa224 fb9
Jesus that FZR is repulsive.

But maybe only surpassed by the xl.

AllanB
7th April 2019, 19:55
Jesus that FZR is repulsive.

But maybe only surpassed by the xl.

I quite like the seat though.

If the XL was local ............. it would be a hoot to fat around on.

husaberg
7th April 2019, 20:02
Jesus that FZR is repulsive.

But maybe only surpassed by the xl.

Yip i wish they would stick to f-ing up GN250, savages and old CB hondas.
Leave the 90's replica racers alone. they are already a bloody replica racer ffs.
judging by the tanks and shocks that was a tidy XL200 superfarmer he ripped to bits.

Yokomama
7th April 2019, 20:04
Poor fizzer.
That yellow gn has been on crapbook since last year, and the price has gone up. Wtf.

pzkpfw
7th April 2019, 20:10
It appears to be the most reliable GN ever at 400,000 plus kms ....

Well, yeah, it gets that reliability from the 40 litre engine.

(Not a GN.)

F5 Dave
8th April 2019, 12:34
'Might be Honda I don't know'


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2016861319.htm?rsqid=21585a0c25de4565a7b11b2368fe6 29f


Yeah bud. Your broken down 15yr old Chinese scrapper isn't a Honda. And it isn't a Hardly lookalike either.

It certainly isn't worth what you are asking.

F5 Dave
8th April 2019, 12:39
"was running in 1980 now appears nipped up,. . . "


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2016073783.htm?rsqid=21585a0c25de4565a7b11b2368fe6 29f

. . . And someone seems to have crashed it breaking front brake and throttle. Sheesh dude.

peanut
8th April 2019, 16:54
Ducati 998S (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2005258090.htm) - "Has not been started since leaving factory in Italy"

Do these clowns not understand that this makes a bike less valuable, not more valuable?

That poor engine.

Scubbo
8th April 2019, 17:05
isnt the 999 the one you want? >_>

OddDuck
8th April 2019, 17:58
"was running in 1980 now appears nipped up,. . . "


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2016073783.htm?rsqid=21585a0c25de4565a7b11b2368fe6 29f

. . . And someone seems to have crashed it breaking front brake and throttle. Sheesh dude.

62 watchers... I guess there's a few people out there with fond memories of these things from when they were younger.

AllanB
8th April 2019, 19:10
62 watchers... I guess there's a few people out there with fond memories of these things from when they were younger.

Someone has bid. You can't buy a new one anymore.

AllanB
8th April 2019, 19:14
Ducati 998S (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2005258090.htm) - "Has not been started since leaving factory in Italy"

Do these clowns not understand that this makes a bike less valuable, not more valuable?

That poor engine.


I think you miss the point sir, it's a collectors piece - it will probably never be ridden. Thus the zero kms have value, it's impossible to buy another brand new one (other than other collectors that may have them sitting in their lounge).

Drew
8th April 2019, 19:49
isnt the 999 the one you want? >_>

The one worth inconceivable money is the coveted 2004 998R.

Actually 999cc, powered with the testastretta rather than whatever they called the 916 motors.

But the 998FE is prolly still worth good coin.

F5 Dave
8th April 2019, 20:22
It certainly looks good. But maybe a few blats down the street to see if you can hoist some mingers.



(. . . . I mean pull wheelies not pick up unsanitary wimin). :eek5:

peanut
9th April 2019, 00:22
I think you miss the point sir, it's a collectors piece - it will probably never be ridden. Thus the zero kms have value, it's impossible to buy another brand new one (other than other collectors that may have them sitting in their lounge).

And my point is that an unused one should be devalued because it is unused.

It's not a sign of quality - it is a sign of neglect.

Drew
9th April 2019, 06:39
And my point is that an unused one should be devalued because it is unused.

It's not a sign of quality - it is a sign of neglect.

It doesn't devalue the bike if it is something special. The FE is arguably just another 998 with a badge slapped in the headstock, but Ducati fanboys are all about that shit.

bistard
9th April 2019, 08:51
Ducati 998S (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2005258090.htm) - "Has not been started since leaving factory in Italy"

Do these clowns not understand that this makes a bike less valuable, not more valuable?

That poor engine.

I stored this for the original owner, he purchased it from Haldanes & went overseas for years, was an ornament in an office all that time
It has never had petrol in it or a battery connected, I tried selling it on ebay,as I don't thnk you will sell it here, had lots of interest in it, but trying to get a bike into the US, especially California, with there emission laws, was impossible
He also has heaps of parts for it,full set of carbon fairings, airbox etc

HenryDorsetCase
9th April 2019, 16:19
The one worth inconceivable money is the coveted 2004 998R.

Actually 999cc, powered with the testastretta rather than whatever they called the 916 motors.

But the 998FE is prolly still worth good coin.

Meh. 2004 749R FTW.

there are a couple for sale on tard me for like $18k. The engines are completely different from the 749S, full crabon bodywork, all the fruit.

Suits you Sir!

HenryDorsetCase
9th April 2019, 16:20
It certainly looks good. But maybe a few blats down the street to see if you can hoist some mingers.



(. . . . I mean pull wheelies not pick up unsanitary wimin). :eek5:

Ya see: I would be more interested in the unsanitary wimminz because I KNOW I can't wheelie for shit

Drew
9th April 2019, 17:27
Meh. 2004 749R FTW.

there are a couple for sale on tard me for like $18k. The engines are completely different from the 749S, full crabon bodywork, all the fruit.

Suits you Sir!

I raced a 749R for a year or so. They're not that great.

sidecar bob
9th April 2019, 17:32
I raced a 749R for a year or so. They're not that great.

No surprises there then. The clue is written on the tank.

Drew
9th April 2019, 17:59
True data.

The motors aren't completely different either. They're just more highly strung in the R than the S.

Voltaire
9th April 2019, 19:05
It doesn't devalue the bike if it is something special. The FE is arguably just another 998 with a badge slapped in the headstock, but Ducati fanboys are all about that shit.

Us fanboys prefer to call them a plaque...to maintain the gleam use special todger polish.:innocent:

TheDemonLord
11th April 2019, 11:08
Not a Motorbike, but still...


$21k for a Ride-on-mower... (https://www.trademe.co.nz/home-living/outdoor-garden-conservatory/lawnmowers/ride-on/listing-2015643546.htm?rsqid=90969a7661c847cb97dad9a5c9677 039&fbclid=IwAR0BhpD-KzenQ0MRPFuSp27U-5ZhuJ75dEJbS8CYelzNGBy428et9ExiMSY)

F5 Dave
11th April 2019, 13:11
Would that be more or less powerful than a GP100 on Yellowdogs dyno? :lol:

HenryDorsetCase
11th April 2019, 15:01
True data.

The motors aren't completely different either. They're just more highly strung in the R than the S.

According to PB they are different castings, different bore and stroke, ti rods and valves and so forth.... I remember seeing a well used one in a Ducati dealership in Melbourne with full crabon fribe and on slicks and so forth. It turns out that it was owned by Eric Bana who is a massive petrol head.

Pound
22nd April 2019, 08:58
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2033713235.htm?rsqid=e9037fa4a1af4c278312903380191 819-002

Nice, but $8000 for a 20 year old 750?

F5 Dave
22nd April 2019, 09:16
I bought this from a bike shop with only 5000km on it. Now I'd like my money back after devaluing it with another 10,000km and private sale.

husaberg
22nd April 2019, 10:01
I really like Srads from the front but they kind of remind me of this.
341582341583341584341585

Pound
22nd April 2019, 10:02
I really like Srads from the front but they kind of remind me of this.




They have a face that only a mother could love......:sweatdrop

Pound
22nd April 2019, 10:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0c7jCBSRwA


Team SRAD....:yes:

husaberg
22nd April 2019, 10:05
They have a face that only a mother could love......:sweatdrop

You have heard of butterface i guess to me a srad is a butterbody?
341586

Pound
22nd April 2019, 10:29
You have heard of butterface i guess to me a srad is a butterbody?


Speaking of that, here's one...........


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-2033373814.htm?rsqid=9b3cfe79889a44ffa44e2974bcf72 8ce-003

HenryDorsetCase
22nd April 2019, 12:10
I really like Srads from the front but they kind of remind me of this.
341582341583341584341585

she makes the rockin' world go round

george formby
22nd April 2019, 12:31
she makes the rockin' world go round

That's stuck in my head for the rest of the day now. :Punk:

F5 Dave
22nd April 2019, 15:30
Chain conversion eh? And decent front end.

But I don't care how much you've spent paying people. It ain't worth it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2031241661.htm?rsqid=49d96ff8d35444288fcccb0e76502 8a4-002

F5 Dave
22nd April 2019, 15:37
You can't give these things away


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2032507574.htm?rsqid=c23e761219f44beeab8a50c99a8cb 80b-003

Lash together that few people have heard of.

A mate has a similar one festering in his shed.

F5 Dave
22nd April 2019, 15:45
This looks horn!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2027897352.htm?rsqid=f59dde98493e4ca4b7131caab87d7 f08-004


"... has been down on its side in a past life....."

Hmm. . , you don't seem to have any pictures of the Left hand side. Coincide?:rolleyes:

F5 Dave
22nd April 2019, 15:52
This would be a neat hack to work bike if it weren't so ugly with 'mods'.

And devaluing it means it's not worth 4k


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2004878075.htm?rsqid=d66d8bffab924b119421e5ced8446 28a-005


Pre powerband engine huh.?:facepalm:

husaberg
22nd April 2019, 19:04
You can't give these things away


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2032507574.htm?rsqid=c23e761219f44beeab8a50c99a8cb 80b-003

Lash together that few people have heard of.

A mate has a similar one festering in his shed.

The story of them is quite intersting.
The original ones were build as a Race bike With a glued together with loctite frame from Tigcraft.
Until the Super-mono came along the 660 Yamaha was the engine to beat in SOS racing.
The original scorpion was styled by the same crew that desighned some famous kettles and toasters.
They also had the BSA name and were going to built a BSA with a similar frame ad a TDM/TRX engine, not sure if it was built.
If tyhey stuck to the original design it might have sold better.
the bike pictured has some quality looking running gear Brembo etc and what looks like supertrapp Exhausts
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4cxE2NUYypk/UKlFMc_Ud6I/AAAAAAAAEfE/o1lb5im_6PU/s1600/Rotax+Prototype.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b-v7Ev9P1vw/UKlFq6Z5rdI/AAAAAAAAEfM/jE2qQWBdf4w/s1600/MuZ-1994-Kobra-small.jpg

the original racer looked something like this
http://suprememotos.com/uploads/postfotos/tigcraft-supermono-race-track-bike-classic-tt-parade-investment-motorcycle-1.JPG

that said for a few dollars more you can buy a 748 or 749

AllanB
22nd April 2019, 19:12
Chain conversion eh? And decent front end.

But I don't care how much you've spent paying people. It ain't worth it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2031241661.htm?rsqid=49d96ff8d35444288fcccb0e76502 8a4-002

Fucks sake $22,000. Seriously. Twenty two fucking thousand dollars.

You can get yourself a 2018 S1000r naked for that money with warranty and all the bells and whistles.

$22,000 for a limp old XS1100.

I really question people. At what point when planning this build did someone think spending $25k on a old 80's standard was a good plan.

You could have kept the 1100 classic as an original bike (with some survivor value associated with that) and gone out and purchased a second NEW XXXX (add what you are into).

Seriously, they have just killed Easter.

Even Jesus would weep looking at that advert.

F5 Dave
22nd April 2019, 21:37
Don't be too sure about killing Easter. I just learnt its next week in orthodox calendar from random dog walking lady here. So jesus gets killed twice a year, heck maybe more times for other funny offshoots. Bet the 7th dayers do it 3 Thursdays from now.

So, ,. ,why did the devil just let him walk out of hell once he'd got him there? That part seems to be glossed over.:devil2:

Some of this story is a bit unbelievable now you think about it.

AllanB
22nd April 2019, 22:32
Some of this story is a bit unbelievable now you think about it.

Like your wife comes home and tells you she is pregnant to god, and you say 'that's nice dear, when will tea be ready?' ............

husaberg
22nd April 2019, 23:31
Like your wife comes home and tells you she is pregnant to god, and you say 'that's nice dear, when will tea be ready?' ............

In the version i am most familiar with the wife doesn't have sex with her husband even though they are married, as she saving herself for god even then.
to this day all woman still pretend its the almighty thats doing the deed, hence oh my god, my god dont stop etc etc

neels
26th April 2019, 18:50
Oh crap, this just got hard. And will probably never be road legal. Time to sell

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=2038744350&tm=email&et=45&mt=F9EBD93A-36D0-423B-BB16-006FB3C425E7

husaberg
26th April 2019, 18:59
Oh crap, this just got hard. And will probably never be road legal. Time to sell

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=2038744350&tm=email&et=45&mt=F9EBD93A-36D0-423B-BB16-006FB3C425E7

hes only selling the Diff and wheels and Swing arm and a set of Chinese shocks.

Voltaire
27th April 2019, 08:12
$18K for a retro Honda.


https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/917246152.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2040054085.htm?rsqid=94dd943443a543f4b049ec9487adc acc-002

F5 Dave
27th April 2019, 08:54
Oh crap, this just got hard. And will probably never be road legal. Time to sell

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=2038744350&tm=email&et=45&mt=F9EBD93A-36D0-423B-BB16-006FB3C425E7
I don't know much about diffs, universals, or cars for that matter.

But how long will that last with that fairly extreme angle of operation?

Drew
27th April 2019, 08:55
$18K for a retro Honda.


https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/917246152.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2040054085.htm?rsqid=94dd943443a543f4b049ec9487adc acc-002

It looks fucking fantastic.

F5 Dave
27th April 2019, 08:57
Cliche alert.

But wait. The stores were out of pipe wrapping tape.



https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2036322997.htm?rsqid=5a75632ab43e43eeba188653ea8c8 4a6-002

AllanB
27th April 2019, 09:07
I don't know much about diffs, universals, or cars for that matter.

But how long will that last with that fairly extreme angle of operation?


Yeah I'd be taking that diff and axle to a specialist company to have it shortened on one side so the head aligns with the Honda output.

jellywrestler
27th April 2019, 09:07
Cliche alert.

But wait. The stores were out of pipe wrapping tape.



https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2036322997.htm?rsqid=5a75632ab43e43eeba188653ea8c8 4a6-002

where's the battery?

F5 Dave
27th April 2019, 09:09
I was going to say No expense , expended. An unremarkable bike with some bits removed. Look at that nasty mess on the LHS engine cover. So. . . Carbs leak huh?

But then I read description, hes wasted 5k paying people to work on it. - That's not our fault and you won't get that back you Turkey!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2033787449.htm?rsqid=64d3a68904da40e2a3a5e5571bdad 2e0-004

There's no upgraded suspension or brakes, just tired old kit. Not sure I'd like to put those Comstars through powdercoating bake oven. .

husaberg
27th April 2019, 09:32
where's the battery?

moreover look at the side stand its appears to be a plank of wood.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1022937528.jpg

judging by the heavy gauge wires heading from the reg towards the rear of the seat i would say its tucked up there

AllanB
27th April 2019, 11:11
But then I read description, hes wasted 5k paying people to work on it. - That's not our fault and you won't get that back you Turkey!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2033787449.htm?rsqid=64d3a68904da40e2a3a5e5571bdad 2e0-004

.

Where was the $5k spent - lets add, and I'll put top numbers on this:

Tune - $500
Rear loop - $300
Seat - $500
Mufflers - $250 (pair) they are generic off the shelf units
Tyres - $350 (?)
Pipe wrap - $100
Paint - $500
Assorted E-bay parts - $500

Shit that's $3k there on a $2k bike ....... no wonder the Mrs wanted it gone, nappies are expensive.

HenryDorsetCase
27th April 2019, 12:05
$18K for a retro Honda.


https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/917246152.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2040054085.htm?rsqid=94dd943443a543f4b049ec9487adc acc-002

This is the classic "Well I've just added this up and it owes me $25k and I told my wife it was $18k so I have to try and sell it for that". Its been for sale for a long time....

Here's the thing: You can buy the real thing for that money. Probably not a sandcast but an early 750 in immaculate condition which should hold its value. I really like this but if I am spending $18k I am not buying that.... I may as well take my $8k CB750 ratbike out for a thrash if I want to re-live a misspent youth.

Also it has one too many cams. That CB750FA DOHC would be a decent place to start for my Freddie Spencer AMA Superbike replica though

AllanB
27th April 2019, 13:41
HDC makes a very valid point above.

The alternative view is the one that has allowed Triumph to sell zillions of 'new' Bonnies - the look with modern reliability and handling etc. But they don;t gain in value.

Hmmmm in twenty five years will a first model Hinckley be collectible.

HenryDorsetCase
27th April 2019, 13:45
HDC makes a very valid point above.

The alternative view is the one that has allowed Triumph to sell zillions of 'new' Bonnies - the look with modern reliability and handling etc. But they don;t gain in value.

Hmmmm in twenty five years will a first model Hinckley be collectible.

Hardly Ableson have an entire multi billion dollar company devoted entirely to the concept too. I'd have one.

Voltaire
27th April 2019, 13:52
This is the classic "Well I've just added this up and it owes me $25k and I told my wife it was $18k so I have to try and sell it for that". Its been for sale for a long time....

Here's the thing: You can buy the real thing for that money. Probably not a sandcast but an early 750 in immaculate condition which should hold its value. I really like this but if I am spending $18k I am not buying that.... I may as well take my $8k CB750 ratbike out for a thrash if I want to re-live a misspent youth.

Also it has one too many cams. That CB750FA DOHC would be a decent place to start for my Freddie Spencer AMA Superbike replica though

I was out on my Commando this morning and stopped in at the Triumph/Guzzi/Norton/BMW dealer, really just to look at a RE Interceptor but alas they are only at the RE branch a world away on the shore.
Used Thruxton R's are appearing for about 17K which is in the zone for me, they had a nice red one
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-2021237976.htm?rsqid=90a0d8057caf4db7af69edf288162 74c-003

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1014934569.jpg

pete376403
27th April 2019, 19:14
Amal Monobloc replica throttle bodies? Form over function?

husaberg
27th April 2019, 19:20
Amal Monobloc replica throttle bodies? Form over function?

Left and right handed and all.
https://cdp.azureedge.net/products/USA/TM/2019/MC/SPORT/THRUXTON_1200_R/50/COMPETITION_GREEN/2000000003_480px.jpg

F5 Dave
27th April 2019, 21:42
You know, I'm guessing they don't have a separate gearbox either. Ohh the deception. I love it when you lie to me.

AllanB
28th April 2019, 08:26
Fake mid section pipes too. The headers go into a cat under the front of the engine then end up at the muffler. Well done really.

Voltaire
28th April 2019, 08:42
Amal Monobloc replica throttle bodies? Form over function?


Fake mid section pipes too. The headers go into a cat under the front of the engine then end up at the muffler. Well done really.

I saw those as I was lying on the showroom floor counting the spokes...only 36....not proper Briddish 40.:lol:, nearly filled up my notebook before I stuffed it back in my anorak. My Triumph pen was leaking but luckily Mother had put my pocket protector back in.

Off to the shed today to get the 53 Sprung Hub Thunderbird ready to go to the market.:rolleyes:
Its got 'real' suspension with no damping, glow worm lights, a rabbit level of vibration and other goodies.:rolleyes:
Might see if Alibaba has Amal Throttle bodies.:rolleyes: