Optimistic sellers

[F5 Dave]

Looks well looked after though. You've always got to be optimistic. Haven't seen one for many a year...
Hey, I'm a big Yamaha fan. But that's 3k over let's try this on.

[Stylo]

Hey, I'm a big Yamaha fan. But that's 3k over let's try this on.

Agree. If he gets the money thats fine. 65k mileage tells me it needs some money spent on it, engine aside.

I'm a Yamaha fan too but the only Yamaha badges in my shed right now are on my E-MTB and my lawnmower.

[husaberg]

Hey, I'm a big Yamaha fan. But that's 3k over let's try this on.


Agree. If he gets the money thats fine. 65k mileage tells me it needs some money spent on it, engine aside.

I'm a Yamaha fan too but the only Yamaha badges in my shed right now are on my E-MTB and my lawnmower.

Legend as it, Dave has Yamaha on his organ.:innocent:

[Laava]

Yep, another cafe racer tragedy…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/yamaha/listing/3737320069?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[Laava]

This might be a good deal?
the answer to the first question is amusing tho…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/suzuki/listing/3736655460?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[husaberg]

This might be a good deal?
the answer to the first question is amusing tho…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/suzuki/listing/3736655460?bof=S2E6Ch8I

Has the same sales technique as the weed dude from towelrunga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0c3IZFMAPc

[Laava]

Lols, yeah that guy! I am picking we have not heard the last of him, he will end up in a jail in SE asia is my pick.
Anyway, check this disaster…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3722005377?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[husaberg]

Lols, yeah that guy! I am picking we have not heard the last of him, he will end up in a jail in SE asia is my pick.
Anyway, check this disaster…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3722005377?bof=S2E6Ch8I

I seen that one and i thought what would Drew think?

They were an underrated bike in their day. but shit ......literally



this one is on FB market place only $2000:niceone:
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[jellywrestler]

Legend as it, Dave has Yamaha on his organ.:innocent:

wear your glasses next time, it's Yahaha

[F5 Dave]

Lols, yeah that guy! I am picking we have not heard the last of him, he will end up in a jail in SE asia is my pick.
Anyway, check this disaster…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3722005377?bof=S2E6Ch8I
The upholstery is my fav . Obviously thought, you know? I'll have a go at that.:facepalm:

[Laava]

The upholstery is my fav . Obviously thought, you know? I'll have a go at that.:facepalm:
Yeah, we can see time and time again how hard it is to take a bike and try to change it's appearance and get it right. It is a lot harder than you think…IMO.

[F5 Dave]

And for some people, harder still. Its probably not stapled just duct taped underneath the seat.

[HenryDorsetCase]

And for some people, harder still. Its probably not stapled just duct taped underneath the seat.

Accepted trade practice you mean?

[F5 Dave]

Who invited the lawyer? How many of these Charletons do you represent? How do you sleep at night?

And will you represent me when I'm next accused of shoddy work (more often than you'd think considering I'm an air traffic controller, but the maths is a cruel mistress).

Guess I shouldn't be on KB during a shift but the computers have it pretty much under control.

[husaberg]

And for some people, harder still. Its probably not stapled just duct taped underneath the seat.


Accepted trade practice you mean?

You can tell he wasn't a farmer, they only use urea or calf meal sacks.

I could live with most mods other then the seat and the carb filters.
One of the naffest things about the CBX750 was the Faux bellmouths/side covers.

if you changed the seat and tank and got rid of the fairing to something like a ELR or a CBR400F nc17 it would look pretty cool
https://i0.wp.com/www.bike-urious.com/wp-content/uploads/Honda-CBX750-Right-Side.jpg?ssl=1
https://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/83ELR1.jpg
https://global-fs.webike-cdn.net/moto_img/cg/5/4678/L_cbr400f_1983.jpghttps://global.webike-cdn.net/@japan/moto_news/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/L_cbr400ffomula3_1985.jpg

or

https://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/image/dr000/auc0304/users/62152ca1701ab765cbc159ca222e916b804e5bd3/i-img1200x900-1650942410iycchd98272.jpg

[F5 Dave]

It's still hard to hide that tank. Why bother on such a vanilla bike?

[dangerous]

Has the same sales technique as the weed dude from towelrunga.


what a fucking bla bla bla ARSSHOLE...



who the hell is he, I reconise the floor in tardme adds... does he think the more times he says fuck... the more people will like him... FFS

[Grumph]

what a fucking bla bla bla ARSHOLE...


We've had them in ChCh too. You could name as many as me.

That Honda labelled an F3 is actually quite attractive. What sizes did it come in Husa ?

[F5 Dave]

Cruel mistress indeed. I'm a qualified pilot but I don't fly into Wellington. Keep my wings in the Mainland. And I keep my opinions largely to myself. Unless I have something to say.
Oh c'mon. You regularly post your opinions, have a look at you social disobedience rants.

And clearly. If it wasn't obvious. My post was pure satire in response to HDC's. I was going to choose Lay Cosmetic Surgeon or Embalmer, but those weren't quite as funny as ATC which affects most everyone.

I had a follow up if anyone took me seriously to remove all doubt, but its lost its steam now.

[husaberg]

We've had them in ChCh too. You could name as many as me.

That Honda labelled an F3 is actually quite attractive. What sizes did it come in Husa ?

It was the 400 it came in a few flavours, its claim to fame was it was a Vtec before there was Vtech it was called REV...?
its the CBR400F. if you gogle NC17 i assume that one slightly later with its VFR like seat. there are at least 4 versions i can see different fairing and frames.
There were some neat 400 around, there was a cool Suzuki with a sculptured seat that was just pre the Impulse.
I have only seen it in magazines.

https://global-fs.webike-cdn.net/moto_img/cg/5/4679/L_cbr400fendurance_1984.jpghttps://bike-lineage.org/honda/cbr400/img/cbr400f_formula-3.jpghttps://www.motorbikespecs.net/images/Honda/CBR400F_NC17__Japan__83-85/CBR400F_NC17__Japan__83-85_1.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/U3wxF6KCpt8/maxresdefault.jpg


It's still hard to hide that tank. Why bother on such a vanilla bike?
just change it.
they were better than they looked.
This is the morriwoki version that did everything but beat the works honda.
https://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mori-right-600x450.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Moriwaki_Zero_X-7.jpg/1200px-Moriwaki_Zero_X-7.jpg

[Laava]

Yep, it was called rev tech. As far as I remember it was tthe CBR400F and RR that both had it. I rode one and it went from 2 valves to 4 at a set rev limit (8000rpm?)and was electro hydraulicly locking in a second set of rockers to actuate the extra valves. Crude but it worked. Not that it was a world beater. My flatmate bypassed his to make it permanently 4 valve and discovered it was set like that for a reason

[F5 Dave]

Well Husa, the last pic has seat foam to be proud of, and some smart tank duct tape. But racebikes need to work as first priority. If they are pretty, you've given up on development . But why on an 80s bike are the calipers at the front?. :weird:

[jellywrestler]

Well Husa, the last pic has seat foam to be proud of, and some smart tank duct tape. But racebikes need to work as first priority. If they are pretty, you've given up on development . But why on an 80s bike are the calipers at the front?. :weird:

to assist in their cooling

[Grumph]

Well Husa, the last pic has seat foam to be proud of, and some smart tank duct tape. But racebikes need to work as first priority. If they are pretty, you've given up on development . But why on an 80s bike are the calipers at the front?. :weird:

Gary Jamieson - who organised the first 10 or so Burts - had one of those Moriwaki's. Pretty sure his had the calipers at the back of the forks. I think it could be assembled either way. Lovely bike. Phyllis rode it here several times. Think it's been sold overseas now. He did some research when it arrived and apparently only 6 or 7 were built. As a 750 with Phyllis riding it easily won pre 89 every time I saw it run.

[husaberg]

Well Husa, the last pic has seat foam to be proud of, and some smart tank duct tape. But racebikes need to work as first priority. If they are pretty, you've given up on development . But why on an 80s bike are the calipers at the front?. :weird:


Gary Jamieson - who organised the first 10 or so Burts - had one of those Moriwaki's. Pretty sure his had the calipers at the back of the forks. I think it could be assembled either way. Lovely bike. Phyllis rode it here several times. Think it's been sold overseas now. He did some research when it arrived and apparently only 6 or 7 were built. As a 750 with Phyllis riding it easily won pre 89 every time I saw it run.

I did a long reply and KB swallowed it into the mists
that lower darker pic is a version i had never seen before the colour is not what i associate with Moriwakis. its quite a lot darker. but i have seen other pics that colour now i look.
the caliper might be like that for post classic rules as all the other i have seen were Nissan 2 pots or 2 pots.
or maybe the rider just preferred the lockheeds Kevin used to have AP's.
pretty sure Lawson used to run only one sort of caliper or not running one sort after he had some pads fall out.

The story of the CBX750 race bike is well worth a read i am not sure if i posted it before or if i can be assed looking, but Honda used to give a lot of back door support to them until it got to fast.
its hard to tell from the pics but the shocks are twin shocks that mount through the swingarm for more travel. they ran a similar set up on a NS250 as well.
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That seat foam Dave i never understood the need for it as the leathers always had padded asses.

anyway here is one that came up on the same feed note the brakes.
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more pics of the era
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/73540-Bucket-bits-4-sale/page132?p=1130666019#post1130666019

note the waki and suzui calipers in front in the 4 8 hour pics
i see croz's era old Kawasaki used to run the same set up.

[F5 Dave]

Maybe it made tyre changes easier? Still means you have a heavy weight up high in front of the forks increasing thier detrimental effect.

All my racing seats have been sans foam but appreciate that fast bikes could do with some adhesion. I mean proper fast.

[husaberg]

Maybe it made tyre changes easier? Still means you have a heavy weight up high in front of the forks increasing thier detrimental effect.

All my racing seats have been sans foam but appreciate that fast bikes could do with some adhesion. I mean proper fast.

That theory fits, as the sole one with calipers mounted behind (the RVF750) has the RC30 like flip open axle clamps.
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i was reading about the RVF750 the other day one of Honda's engineers said the 360 crank saved a few KG as it needed less coils.:)
They used to run it with a 5 speed as 6 were not needed.

[F5 Dave]

$1500 isn't a lot to pay. . . Oh dear. .

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3725364426

[HenryDorsetCase]

$1500 isn't a lot to pay. . . Oh dear. .

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/3725364426

I might buy that for a project next winter.

edit - Nah just seen that it is in Norfland. Too hard to get it here and too expensive. You would have to budget for complete engine strip but you could end up with something cool. https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALiCzsbIczfIy-xGoLfMV3SOVkzX1vaStQ:1661641618594&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=greg+hagaman+XV1000&fir=x4Kgje-47cJkdM%252C5D2o8eegfQ_XYM%252C_%253B9Wuk79L4Kx6pY M%252C5D2o8eegfQ_XYM%252C_%253BwdfAujlKcPpJ3M%252C 5D2o8eegfQ_XYM%252C_%253BxArtFoTuHUextM%252Cnj2DRw VXVDZNGM%252C_%253BGciBPHWAOgbWcM%252CPdDjgPphpTGA AM%252C_%253ByLdES6DKW7J2hM%252CiaYq-kNSuUFYTM%252C_%253BZVRpbq5rJ1iECM%252Cp7KAKRr5b-xTjM%252C_%253Bl0WBF9QeuCN7bM%252CGGOM7vMn0D22lM%2 52C_%253BZaA9s4AG1zEOJM%252CVc08zEd_yATneM%252C_%2 53BI-jtLV4i_sRvIM%252Cnj2DRwVXVDZNGM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQY2wX_nmjElc8K9I0P4FtTlpJBsA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiuja6zkej5AhUL4TgGHTA4ArUQjJkEegQIAhAC&biw=1920&bih=965&dpr=1

[F5 Dave]

I'd rather recondition the Titanic. Terrible photos still cant hide that level of decay. It's been outside for many years probably with a tarp. Until that blew off.

[dangerous]

hahahahaaaaaaaaa... fuck me dead foreskin Fred... I paid $54 for one

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/toys-models/models/other/listing/3740405765

[Laava]

hahahahaaaaaaaaa... fuck me dead foreskin Fred... I paid $54 for one

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/toys-models/models/other/listing/3740405765
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, you paid $54 for one!




😆😆😆😆😆

[F5 Dave]

I briefly considered buying it just to piss you off, but I don't really want a *onda in the house.

Ohh he has a GS400 with a queer touring fairing. Hold me back.

[dangerous]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, you paid $54 for one!




😆😆😆😆😆

tucked in over the back...

[Laava]

Fuck me, you were serious!😳😳😳


😁😁😁

[F5 Dave]

Ohh look, forget the poxy NR. All the rest are two strokes. I never knew you had such taste.
I feel strangely attracted to you right now..

[dangerous]

Fuck me, you were serious!😳😳😳😁😁😁

well... to be honest mate... that is the best offer Iv had all week...



Ohh look, forget the poxy NR. All the rest are two strokes. I never knew you had such taste.
I feel strangely attracted to you right now..

OHHHH FFS Dave...

[F5 Dave]

Oh don't come over all bashful :love:

[YellowDog]

I'd rather recondition the Titanic. Terrible photos still cant hide that level of decay. It's been outside for many years probably with a tarp. Until that blew off.

Everyone knows that 'out-of-focus-photos' help improve the price attainable :o

[Gremlin]

I'll just leave this here... Reckon with 166k on my Hornet, it's appreciating! Perhaps I could get $10k for mine? :crazy:

At the end of the model life, they were being sold for around $10-11k new...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3749662479

[F5 Dave]

I was thinking that looks impossibly clean. Oh. 900km.

What sort of plonker buys a bike and barely gets past 1st service in coming on 18 years?

[pritch]

I'll just leave this here... Reckon with 166k on my Hornet, it's appreciating! Perhaps I could get $10k for mine? :crazy:

At the end of the model life, they were being sold for around $10-11k new...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3749662479

Mine wasn't the last model and I bought it when they dropped the price to $10,000 (from 12,000 IIRC). So yeah, he may be optimistic.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Mine wasn't the last model and I bought it when they dropped the price to $10,000 (from 12,000 IIRC). So yeah, he may be optimistic.

They're a very good bike IMO. Having said that my Monsters fill the same niche but make cooler noises.

[pritch]

They're a very good bike IMO. Having said that my Monsters fill the same niche but make cooler noises.

BIKE magazine rated them one of their 10 'best of the best' at the time. The results were far better than might be expected for a parts bin special. Mine had an Ohlins and a Powerful Commander with a custom map so it was extra good. It's my favourite bike.

If you added an Ohlins and a Power Commander to that bike at Casbolts it would be getting seriously expensive.

[Gremlin]

She's getting expensive to service though. Collected today after a couple of weeks... $2,369.34

That didn't even include the front fork inner tubes I sourced, Honda wanted $600 EACH
There were brake pads all round, fuel line, a rear tyre (the other got 2 punctures in 2 odd weeks) and then plenty of labour. Fork seals had to be replaced because of the pitting on the forks damaging the fork seals, hence replacing the tubes...

But Ohlins rear, Racetech internals in the front, I still enjoy riding her 15.5 years on...

[HenryDorsetCase]

She's getting expensive to service though. Collected today after a couple of weeks... $2,369.34

That didn't even include the front fork inner tubes I sourced, Honda wanted $600 EACH
There were brake pads all round, fuel line, a rear tyre (the other got 2 punctures in 2 odd weeks) and then plenty of labour. Fork seals had to be replaced because of the pitting on the forks damaging the fork seals, hence replacing the tubes...

But Ohlins rear, Racetech internals in the front, I still enjoy riding her 15.5 years on...

I had the same suspension setup and it was mint. Good tyres etc. First bike I got my knee down on. (on a trackday, closed course, professional rider blah blah). I will wander up the road to Casbolts and have a look.

The new dude who owns it has transformed the joint. Definitely worth visiting now.

[Grumph]

.

The new dude who owns it has transformed the joint. Definitely worth visiting now.


Passing through Sydenham the other day and saw a Honda dealer where one hadn't been before. Only found out who it was looking at the Hornet ad on here.
It's a risk moving away from Manchester St. Casbolts only moved to Manchester St because the others were there and they were out of the way.
Even further out of the way now.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Passing through Sydenham the other day and saw a Honda dealer where one hadn't been before. Only found out who it was looking at the Hornet ad on here.
It's a risk moving away from Manchester St. Casbolts only moved to Manchester St because the others were there and they were out of the way.
Even further out of the way now.

there are zero motorbike dealers in Manchester St now. Just as we moved into our new office very close by. At least George Henry is still there.

[HenryDorsetCase]

LOL this dude must win some sort of prize. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3760714076

eighty grand? Yeah but Nah.

[Drew]

LOL this dude must win some sort of prize. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3760714076

eighty grand? Yeah but Nah.

The instruments didn't get the treatment that the rest of the bike clearly did. The faded "redline" passes me off, and the chrome band around the Rev counter is damaged.

But fuck me if that doesn't look better than when Honda sent it out.

[F5 Dave]

They didn't polish the cam covers like that I bet. And the sparkplugs aren't original, pah knock 10k off for that.
And another 10 for being a Honda, make that 20.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Steve McQueen's sandcast sold for $155kUSD earlier this year. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-honda-cb750-sandcast-2/.

Having said that, it was Steve McQueens. here's a list of what they've sold for on BAT (sign up for their newsletters - thank me later)

https://bringatrailer.com/search/?s=CB750+sandcast


My sense is that like a lot of things (cough, property in NZ cough) values peaked last year and stuff is worth less this year than last. People have less optimism and less cash money or the propensity or ability to borrow it.

Anyway, old boy asking NZD$80k is around $48kUSD. So I stand by my initial assessment: it is still optimistic and quite substantially. I predict that if bought it will be bought by a collector/investor, not a motorbike guy, and it will never see the light of day until he tries to move it on for double its money.

If I was going to buy another CB750 (unlikely at this point) I would be looking for a tidy F2. they're about $6 to $8k US.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The instruments didn't get the treatment that the rest of the bike clearly did. The faded "redline" passes me off, and the chrome band around the Rev counter is damaged.

But fuck me if that doesn't look better than when Honda sent it out.


https://www.cb750faces.com/en/

for all your gauge-y goodness

[F5 Dave]

So 1969, a 25yr old would be 78 now. Any older and that's a big heavy bike. Any longer and it will be less relevant than a GSXR750F to the disposable income set.

So yeah likely peak value has probably passed, world economy aside.

Get those Z1 restos finished quick.

[Laava]

Well, I wouldn't pay that much, but actually kinda cool. 8/10 on the Drewo'meter.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3760513402?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[pritch]

Well, I wouldn't pay that much, but actually kinda cool.

That's the best CX500 I've ever seen, Alas! It's still only a CX500.

[husaberg]

Well, I wouldn't pay that much, but actually kinda cool. 8/10 on the Drewo'meter.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3760513402?bof=S2E6Ch8I
Not my taste, but engineered well finished and cohesive design.

[F5 Dave]

Sort of like building a swanky mansion in central Ruatoria. Overcapitalising and a bit useless even if you do a good job.

[YellowDog]

Well, I wouldn't pay that much, but actually kinda cool. 8/10 on the Drewo'meter.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3760513402?bof=S2E6Ch8I

Really like that one. I wouldn't pay more than $12k even for such an exceptional a bike if that age. As has been stated, severely over-capitalised.

$25k gets you something really nice in new condition these days.

[F5 Dave]

3,8 gets you a fair bike, but this isn't one of those :

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3769827223?bof=RDAOJtdq

No chance of a WOF for, shake a stick , number of reasons.

And oh, look it doesn't actually run. For electrical reasons. (Cracked head, which they all did).

[pritch]

3,8 gets you a fair bike, but this isn't one of those :

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3769827223?bof=RDAOJtdq

No chance of a WOF for, shake a stick , number of reasons.

And oh, look it doesn't actually run. For electrical reasons. (Cracked head, which they all did).

A pity. It's a nicer job than most of its type. Near four grand for an illegal non-runner seems way over the odds.

[Drew]

My CB must be worth ficken heaps!

[neels]

3,8 gets you a fair bike, but this isn't one of those :

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3769827223?bof=RDAOJtdq

No chance of a WOF for, shake a stick , number of reasons.

And oh, look it doesn't actually run. For electrical reasons. (Cracked head, which they all did).
Really don't get it, they're a nice enough looking bike without buggering about and chopping it up.

The bit that I don't like on most of these bikes is the bloody great hole where the airbox used to be, it just looks too much like there was something there but it got removed, and not sure what to do with it after that so just did nothing.

And yes, for almost 4k it needs to be riding home legal, or a bloody valuable project bike.

[Drew]

Really don't get it, they're a nice enough looking bike without buggering about and chopping it up.

The bit that I don't like on most of these bikes is the bloody great hole where the airbox used to be, it just looks too much like there was something there but it got removed, and not sure what to do with it after that so just did nothing.

And yes, for almost 4k it needs to be riding home legal, or a bloody valuable project bike.

I took that bloody great hole for the airbox, and expanded on it as a design feature

[F5 Dave]

Well it's got a pillion seat. Where are the pillion pegs going to mount?

[husaberg]

Personally i would be more worried about that bottle jacks affect on cornering clearance.

[Laava]

If you keep the front wheel lofted properly it shouldn't be a problem! It's not big or clever, sure, but gets the job done!

[husaberg]

Hey Drew, this needs to be your taillight design built into the seat like like a lightning clubman
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[Laava]

Whaaaaat! What's not to like? Warm in the winter, shade in the summer! 😁😁😁

[jellywrestler]

That's the best CX500 I've ever seen, Alas! It's still only a CX500.

a bit like being the tallest dwarf.

[Drew]

Well it's got a pillion seat. Where are the pillion pegs going to mount?

I did actually give this some thought when I built the bike. A sticker that says "no passengers" on the seat males it legal...for the certification process.
That realization came post. "How do I make a tidy cover for this"?

[Reckless]

Comments are a Good read

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/honda/listing/3776245323?bof=rzqv6JhJ

Already bids at $8.5K still no pics of the bike.

[Grumph]

Comments are a Good read

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/honda/listing/3776245323?bof=rzqv6JhJ

Already bids at $8.5K still no pics of the bike.


I'm sure now you've put it up there'll be a few from here commenting too.

[F5 Dave]

Ohh, just can we all guess who Sierra19 is? With the attitude it's not very hard.

[YellowDog]

Comments are a Good read

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/honda/listing/3776245323?bof=rzqv6JhJ

Already bids at $8.5K still no pics of the bike.

The magazine photo's enough to perhaps double that price :no:

[pritch]

The magazine photo's enough to perhaps double that price :no:

The KiwiBiker women's knitting circle is mentioned in despatches. I only recall one misfit using that description. And by a remarkable coincidence he lives in the same area.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah it's quite an attack considering I didn't post the link or make much of a comment at all and not about the bike . Weird. :confused:

[Grumph]

Yeah it's quite an attack considering I didn't post the link or make much of a comment at all and not about the bike . Weird. :confused:

Fame comes in many forms.

[husaberg]

Yeah it's quite an attack considering I didn't post the link or make much of a comment at all and not about the bike . Weird. :confused:
nah you are not objective enough hes clearly got you pegged:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
In all seriousness though, Mark P from palmy seems not to be a fan...
Wasn't there a Mark prone to emotional outbursts on KB, Was skidmark from palmy?

[HenryDorsetCase]

The KiwiBiker women's knitting circle is mentioned in despatches. I only recall one misfit using that description. And by a remarkable coincidence he lives in the same area.

Theres a knitting circle? I would like a new Fairisle jumper for next winter please.

[Laava]

nah you are not objective enough hes clearly got you pegged:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
In all seriousness though, Mark P from palmy seems not to be a fan...
Wasn't there a Mark prone to emotional outbursts on KB, Was skidmark from palmy?
Boner. Boner the moaner!😆😆😆

[Laava]

Can't do a Fairiisle jumper but might do you a pair of socks mate. Knitting's a bit new to me though.
Cant be that hard? I mean, girls can do it? Make a real mans jersey with tyre cord!

[dangerous]

fucking funny shit right there... Dave which one are you and whos the seller or is it another twat thats a KBer?

[Laava]

fucking funny shit right there... Dave which one are you and whos the seller or is it another twat thats a KBer?
Dave has not appeared in there. The reference to this thread is from a bitter KB member. Why would you derail someone's question area with such fuckwit comments? The seller is doing a good job of being patient and all he has done wrong is not have his photos ready…no big deal…

[husaberg]

Boner. Boner the moaner!������

Shit you are right, i checked and he used to say KB knitting circle a lot, plus he used to stalk Dave with a Ragin tiny affection phallus
his name was Mark from palmy and was also dishonorably discharged from the Airforce for blowing a goat. Or so i heard....

[husaberg]

Just learning how to knit mate. Blowing a goat. How do you do that ?
Odd that you ask how rather than why?
but mechanically, one would assume it was a bloke goat .
But best ask bonez

[F5 Dave]

Gee, I almost feel like apologising to the seller for that FW somehow implying that I was trashing him, which clearly I didn't. But then I'd have Boner following me around on Tardme if I ever launch an auction. So, no. I'm not on that Feral comments thread.

Generally such a sad man to hold such anger. Life is too short to be a ball of fury at the world what dun ronged you in some internalised manner.


I have better things to do.

Like actually ride motorcycles.

[Laava]

Gee, I almost feel like apologising to the seller for that FW somehow implying that I was trashing him, which clearly I didn't. But then I'd have Boner following me around on Tardme if I ever launch an auction. So, no. I'm not on that Feral comments thread.

Generally such a sad man to hold such anger. Life is too short to be a ball of fury at the world what dun ronged you in some internalised manner.


I have better things to do.

Like actually ride motorcycles.
So, I went and had a relook and Boner is having a right old paddy. Think the seller is commenting about Boners poor form rather than anything from here, which is not slating him in any case, rather the questions and comments on his auction. Poor fucking form Boner, shame!

[F5 Dave]

I see TM have cleaned up the comments, good call. I'm glad I decided not to get involved despite being called out. Fortunately he showed his true colours. Hopefully learning the lesson to stop being so nasty to people.

[pritch]

I see TM have cleaned up the comments, good call. I'm glad I decided not to get involved despite being called out. Fortunately he showed his true colours. Hopefully learning the lesson to stop being so nasty to people.

Learning a lesson? LOL good one... I was in Palmerston North this week, I coulda looked him up. Nah. :devil2:

[dangerous]

Learning a lesson? LOL good one... I was in Palmerston North this week, I coulda looked him up. Nah. :devil2:

ill be up soon for the buell rally, should I call in foe high tea and scones... could be funny as fuck... or i could leave rubbing my arse hole...

[F5 Dave]

You can imagine his workmates dreading going to the pub with him tagging along, knowing he'd drag them into a fight and hide behind them.

[Reckless]

Trade me should have pulled the whole Auction he clearly bought this on himself by trying to sell a bike that's is not ready for sale and reading his latest comments he's in no rush to get it ready.
Comments like "Maybe a thumpstar is more in your budget" don't do him any favors either. :girlfight:
There would be buyers already saying I'm not dealing with this guy. :mad:

The lesson here is if you want top dollar for your classic this is not the way to go about it :brick:

Created a bit of discussion here tho to pass the day :)

[HenryDorsetCase]

Cool Greg Hagaman modded XV920 but check out the comment from mark.p

So, welcome to the knitting circle, bitches!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/3770874625

clearly he has sat on some cutty grass and his nethers are shredded.

Bit rich for my blood at over $10k with an hour or so to go.


edit: sold for $12200 to gbexport. Him and brett37 had a real ding-dong over it.

[F5 Dave]

That actually looks quite good. Pity someone couldn't break out the autosol on the ally covers while in storage.

So I've mostly changed over to merino these days. Can you actually buy the wool? And its quite fine gauge, do you need real thin needles or something, or is it unrealistic to do by hand?

[HenryDorsetCase]

That actually looks quite good. Pity someone couldn't break out the autosol on the ally covers while in storage.

So I've mostly changed over to merino these days. Can you actually buy the wool? And its quite fine gauge, do you need real thin needles or something, or is it unrealistic to do by hand?

I dont know how it would ride. the suspension was lowered by two inches in front and it runs 30W fork oil! It did have some sort of shorter shock in it too.

My clipon days are gone I think.

I will ask SWMBO for any knitting tips though like you she hasnt done any for ages. She did actually knit me a fairisle jumper years ago. It was really cool and super warm. My gran could do all the fancy patterns with the cables and bobbles and so forth... she was amazing. I still have a winter hat she knitted me years ago. No pom pom though, I dont go for that. Unless they're on a well filled bikini.

[pritch]

C
clearly he has sat on some cutty grass and his nethers are shredded.


Without wishing to be uncharitable, he was a prick when he was here, I guess we shouldn't be surprised he's a prick elsewhere. They probably had a piss up in the Mess when he quit the air farce.

[Laava]

He would hilariously call me "sweaty" while he was trying to be condescending. I couldn't work out if he didn't know how to spell "sweetie" or sweaty was how he likes his men. Either way, he flounced out of here like a proper trump, or did he get pushed? Meh.

[husaberg]

Henry trolled him a great one a few years back with How nylocks were the go for VFR400 conrods.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/188014-Nylock-Nut-Myth?p=1131152852#post1131152852




As far as i can tell he's not binned he just somehow become self aware that almost everyone doesn't appreciate him.
Its possible I might have got him binned a few times and were also possibly the reason he opted out of rep.
But i am only 99.9% sure on that one.

With the bike.
Not my thing but better than 99% of what's modified on Tm.
but i would ask my money back on the mechanic charging him to re polish the corroded cases....

Should i know who Greg Hagaman is?
okay goggle found him
http://www.hagemanmc.com/

Looks like that particular bike he does starts at at $17,000usd
go to the pricing page, no guarantees it was in a mag he sells them bulk by the look of it.

[Stylo]

Trade me should have pulled the whole Auction he clearly bought this on himself by trying to sell a bike that's is not ready for sale and reading his latest comments he's in no rush to get it ready.
Comments like "Maybe a thumpstar is more in your budget" don't do him any favors either. :girlfight:
There would be buyers already saying I'm not dealing with this guy. :mad:

The lesson here is if you want top dollar for your classic this is not the way to go about it :brick:

Created a bit of discussion here tho to pass the day :)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/honda/listing/3776245323

Agree totally. I wouldn't want anything to do with him. The auction finishes in just over 24 hours and he still hasn't posted any pics. Go figure.

[pritch]

You've still got a couple of weeks to get there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dcN_eJ7wB4

[dangerous]

Old 80K cb 750!!!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3780938388

[husaberg]

Old 80K cb 750!!!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3780938388

i heard that they are gravity diecast as as opposed to pressure dicast.
7500 is not exactly gold dust rare.
RC30 was 3000 i think
annual production of RS bikes were likely around 1000 of each size.
There were from what i have seen about 8000 Ducati 851 and 888's
Husaberg production when they were in Sweden was in the hundreds per year.

[jellywrestler]

i heard that they are gravity diecast as as opposed to pressure dicast.
7500 is not exactly gold dust rare.
RC30 was 3000 i think
annual production of RS bikes were likely around 1000 of each size.
There were from what i have seen about 8000 Ducati 851 and 888's
Husaberg production when they were in Sweden was in the hundreds per year.

we lost a lot of RC30's from the first shipment to overseas. Superbike rider Gary Goodfellow saw that they were incorrectly priced in nz and jumped in a truck and drove around nz buying every unsold one up
the CB1100R is far rarer but was not released world wide so not as sought after.

[roogazza]

we lost a lot of RC30's from the first shipment to overseas. Superbike rider Gary Goodfellow saw that they were incorrectly priced in nz and jumped in a truck and drove around nz buying every unsold one up
the CB1100R is far rarer but was not released world wide so not as sought after.

I must say, when I returned to NZ in 1997 , my sister had an RVF 400 ! What a neat little bike,too small for me in size and I do like big engines.
But using it for fangs on the Rimatukas it was great.Lovely noises from the V4.

[F5 Dave]

we lost a lot of RC30's from the first shipment to overseas. Superbike rider Gary Goodfellow saw that they were incorrectly priced in nz and jumped in a truck and drove around nz buying every unsold one up
the CB1100R is far rarer but was not released world wide so not as sought after.

How the hell do you bankroll that? Assuming that the truck held more than one bike, that's a big wedge of wonga and racers are usually perpetually broke even if he was earning Can/US$ or whatever.

[jellywrestler]

How the hell do you bankroll that? Assuming that the truck held more than one bike, that's a big wedge of wonga and racers are usually perpetually broke even if he was earning Can/US$ or whatever.

he's a very astute business man, He owned at least one dealership in Canada, and invited Robert Holden over to race for a season.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I had no idea he was such an interesting dude.

https://nz.linkedin.com/in/gary-goodfellow-a55bb819

Plus he knows about plumbing!

[pritch]

Just came across this, unsure if it has been posted before.

[jellywrestler]

I had no idea he was such an interesting dude.

https://nz.linkedin.com/in/gary-goodfellow-a55bb819

Plus he knows about plumbing!

1st person to win a wsbk race on a suzuki, top nz motocrosser before road racing etc all round GC

[F5 Dave]

Good list.

Pity it wasn't edited for bikes but made me laugh more than once.

[jellywrestler]

wow, a badge so rare there could have been as few as just three made!!!! see questions https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectables/automotive-transport/motorbikes/listing/3808215402?tm=email&et=202&mt=E039B2BA-9026-439D-9608-BF25D51369E0&bof=N1rbKZwt

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3817619120?bof=iP83ZAvu

If you want one of these, this is the one to buy.

Having said that I think his $19k is severely optimistic. The collector market (which this is priced for, sadly) is all about the (so called) K0 and "sandcast". Earlier is better for those guys - even though the F1 and F2 are functionally better motorcycles.

I have never owned an air cooled DOHC Honda though and they're still half the price....

[Laava]

This is not in NZ, and although optimistic, you have to admire his honesty.

[F5 Dave]

Car stuff.

I kinds want to get to C.

$1500 is not nothing in US$.


Bike stuff.

Those later model 750s were just holding time while they launched their cars. Just before the 4 valve CBs. Which were a bit shit compared to. . . Well everything else.

Kinda cool old bike. But not the money shot model. 10k would be a nice buy if you liked that sort of thing.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Car stuff.

I kinds want to get to C.

$1500 is not nothing in US$.


Bike stuff.

Those later model 750s were just holding time while they launched their cars. Just before the 4 valve CBs. Which were a bit shit compared to. . . Well everything else.

Kinda cool old bike. But not the money shot model. 10k would be a nice buy if you liked that sort of thing.

I thought $12. I turned one down five years ago (US import, needed going through, compliance and rego) for $6500NZ

[F5 Dave]

So along came a 10k F.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3807978500

And this is an interesting example of perceived values. The last scrape of bottom of the barrel version posted before, vs the new 4V model. Undoubtedly the better bike, but not the iconic ground breaker the first model was. So, because the end of run, kinda looks like the first model, -is it worth more than the slightly older start of run model?
Depends who is squinting I guess.

[jellywrestler]

So along came a 10k F.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3807978500

And this is an interesting example of perceived values. The last scrape of bottom of the barrel version posted before, vs the new 4V model. Undoubtedly the better bike, but not the iconic ground breaker the first model was. So, because the end of run, kinda looks like the first model, -is it worth more than the slightly older start of run model?
Depends who is squinting I guess.

worth every penny , first thing is the classic rego, means that bikes will sit in the shed registered all year around, a big plus. Looks done well, try and restore one for that, the biggest thing is the endless fuck ups outwork goes through these days, a brain drain in itself. Also people will pay more than that for a royal enfeild, and what do you get

[F5 Dave]

Sorry, you missed my point, probably because I didn't frame it very well.

I was making a comparison between the 1981 F and the 1978 SOHC. The F is just fine at 10k. Could use a sidecover badge and some more photos, but seems reasonable enough if it is on the level.

So is the 3 year older bike worth twice that? Or less even? (assuming same condition for discussion sake). Just an interest in people's opinions.

[Laava]

The old, too many zeros, listing…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/suzuki/listing/3817511534?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[F5 Dave]

Ooh I do love Harry Davesons. :banana:

[Grumph]

The old, too many zeros, listing…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/suzuki/listing/3817511534?bof=S2E6Ch8I

They were a pretty shite bike but did this one have to die in such a brutal fashion.

[Jazzed]

They were a pretty shite bike but did this one have to die in such a brutal fashion.
Its all in how you ride em


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=376Ns8l6Q7M&list=FLkApPPrA_3QoZeIO3qO4Drw&index=12

[dangerous]

Its all in how you ride em

musics shit... but, he's actually quite bloody talented LMFAO

[F5 Dave]

Trawling through classic listings I see a lot of nicely presented bikes with strong but probably fair prices. Perhaps people feel it is time to get rid while market still has some money in their pockets.

But then there's this.

Dude, I'm sorry that you are ill, that must suck, but circa 10k and , well, this;
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/3821413484?bof=obKVAx3D

These were beautiful and lemons in equal measure. You cant even see the 2nd one, but the first is concerning. First he says they are complete, need recommissioning (replacing?). Then he says no accidents.
Then he later says owner ran into a ditch. (So if that wasn't an accident, perhaps it was on purpose? :rolleyes:)

Then he fessed up that will need tank, pump etc. You won't find that at your local Laverda dealership. . . Or a Laverda dealership.
Oh, look there's some bodywork. . . Maybe.

Someone here will probably have some angry words as they know him from the race scene.
Well great. Go offer to help him. Drag everything out and photograph it in a loose dry build so maybe someone will think this maxi project has some chance. As it is youd have to have rocks on your head to risk anything on that mystrybag assortment of parts.

[dangerous]

But then there's this.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/3821413484?bof=obKVAx3D


yeah well... I know the 668 and 750s well, the 750 well improved but still had its problems... hmmm, all he has is a pile of cool shit thats worth nothing the way hes advertising them.

[F5 Dave]

Sign up me man. Brother is down on his luck and needs a hand.

[Laava]

This is interesting? As far as I know, you cannot transfer a govt issue plate from one machine to another…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectables/automotive-transport/motorbikes/listing/3829399882?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[F5 Dave]

FFS! How is it 'still in the system ' and why the fuck would you want it? PS it's broken.

[husaberg]

The old, too many zeros, listing…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/suzuki/listing/3817511534?bof=S2E6Ch8I
check this one out Laava:psst:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3817795073?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[jellywrestler]

This is interesting? As far as I know, you cannot transfer a govt issue plate from one machine to another…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectables/automotive-transport/motorbikes/listing/3829399882?bof=S2E6Ch8I

Carl Coleman Rod Colemans son, although there was some doubt about that fact ...... Used to be sowhatsnew on trademe.

[dangerous]

This is interesting? As far as I know, you cannot transfer a govt issue plate from one machine to another…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/antiques-collectables/automotive-transport/motorbikes/listing/3829399882?bof=S2E6Ch8I

of course ya can... no different to a personalised one... but why the fuck would ya want that piece a shit...

[Laava]

of course ya can... no different to a personalised one... but why the fuck would ya want that piece a shit...
I did a quick research and apparently not…

[F5 Dave]

Yeah wouldn't make sense. Could fake off age of vehicle a bit. Course you might have go scan and photoshop the rego sticker, but a 14yr old could do that.

[neels]

PS it's broken.
Just like all the other plates that shape, they started cracking in the corners the day they were bolted on

But no, I can't see any use for a still live plate that doesn't belong to the bike you have. Unless you do have the same bike, and it comes with frame ID plate and papers also......

[Dadpole]

Just like all the other plates that shape, they started cracking in the corners the day they were bolted on

But no, I can't see any use for a still live plate that doesn't belong to the bike you have. Unless you do have the same bike, and it comes with frame ID plate and papers also......

Perhaps he knows that one of us is Stefan Jawagroper Zundaplover and was born in 1989... ;)

[F5 Dave]

Uncanny! I was borne in 1989! Well, I was alive in 1989. And I don't think that's a coincidence.
My name is made of letters.

[Laava]

Are you Rod Coleslaw?
oh, my bad, I thought you said lettuce!

[Dadpole]

Uncanny! I was borne in 1989! Well, I was alive in 1989. And I don't think that's a coincidence.
My name is made of letters.

Uncanny indeed. I too was alive in 1989 - and still am. Spooky.......................... :shit:

[dangerous]

Uncanny! I was borne in 1989! Well, I was alive in 1989. And I don't think that's a coincidence.
My name is made of letters.

fuck off ya were... and just to correct you your name is made from 5 letters and one numeral


I did a quick research and apparently not…

ok... I stand corrected thank you...

[F5 Dave]

fuck off ya were... and just to correct you your name is made from 5 letters and one numeral



ok... I stand corrected thank you...
I was too born by 1989. For a fair while, but that's just semantics.

[F5 Dave]

Well the inflation scene seems to be unearthing so ok bikes at ok prices. But there's still a few clangers left that have been on there for ages with no bites.

And there's this.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/3862177821

Yes it is likely the best one in NZ. But that's a lot of coin for a commie piece of shit that was panned by the bike press back in the day for being abysmal. Why on earth would you want one?

[Laava]

I rode my mates one on more than one occasion. It was abyssmal. He did at least put some ape hangers on it to make it look as funny as it rode.

[F5 Dave]

Well this is nice

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/3858781665

[F5 Dave]

I rode my mates one on more than one occasion. It was abyssmal. He did at least put some ape hangers on it to make it look as funny as it rode.
Well I can see the attraction in that. A sissy bar and some Hardly bloody Davisen stickers would seal the deal.

[F5 Dave]

Oh fuk off, it's not an RC45, it's a jap import 400.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3856999221


Ok if it was a 45 I'd be on the phone for that price, but jezuz.

[rastuscat]

Oh fuk off, it's not an RC45, it's a jap import 400.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3856999221


Ok if it was a 45 I'd be on the phone for that price, but jezuz.

LAMS approved. Increases value for those on a 6L or a 6R, decreases value for anyone on a 6F.

Cool bike, but not at that price.

[dangerous]

Oh fuk off, it's not raining again in welly

Yes .. yes it is Dave... I'm surprised you get any riding in... We at AJs for the night

[F5 Dave]

Ahh cool. But yeah started raining last night, been nice up until.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Oh fuk off, it's not an RC45, it's a jap import 400.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3856999221


Ok if it was a 45 I'd be on the phone for that price, but jezuz.

and we thought the NC30's at ten large were expensive.

[Laava]

Speaking of expensive…I would bet that you would never ride this thing enough to wear out that ridiculous front tyre
Cholololol!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/3841020693?bof=S2E6Ch8I
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/3841021817?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[Laava]

This one is more WTF?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/pocket-pit-bikes/other/listing/3857004333?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[pritch]

That oversize front wheel seems to have been in fashion for a while. There's no accounting for taste

[pete376403]

This one is more WTF?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/pocket-pit-bikes/other/listing/3857004333?bof=S2E6Ch8I

At least there is an element of builders own work in this - those other things are just an assemblage of aftermarket catalog parts

[Laava]

Yep, the price is realistic, but it is a ride on lawnmower…

[jellywrestler]

these came in Honda Cervix's, at this price It would need to include the car too


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3869942052?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[F5 Dave]

If it did include the original car youd need a shovel to move it.

Those Hardleys must be dreadful to ride. Fortunately that's not the point of them. The point is to separate fools from thier money.

[nerrrd]

these came in Honda Cervix's, at this price It would need to include the car too


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3869942052?bof=S2E6Ch8I


I think that was the Shitty, not the Cervix.

https://japanesenostalgiccar.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/City_Madness-640x443.jpg

[F5 Dave]

What on earth are they trying to portray in that add? Some kind of silly-haircut-fully-clothed-sodomy dance? :blink:

[husaberg]

What on earth are they trying to portray in that add? Some kind of silly-haircut-fully-clothed-sodomy dance? :blink:

My guess its the talking heads dance or the one from the breakfast club.

[Laava]

What on earth are they trying to portray in that add? Some kind of silly-haircut-fully-clothed-sodomy dance? :blink:
Madness!……

[F5 Dave]

Maybe that does ring a tiny bell in the distance. But WTF is the point of the add? Japanese Bizarro world.

[Laava]

Bizzaro sums it up. My good mate Harry thought it worth a send up!
https://youtu.be/SBHjSsjWuM4

[jellywrestler]

If it did include the original car youd need a shovel to move it.

Those Hardleys must be dreadful to ride. Fortunately that's not the point of them. The point is to separate fools from thier money.

your autocorrect changed drug dealers into fools!

[F5 Dave]

Sorry I had it set to White Middle Class Sensibilities.
I'll change it to MrT trash talk.

"The point is to separate fools from thier money. I pity the Fools." ;)

Similar correction, but with some 80s Sass.

[HenryDorsetCase]

What on earth are they trying to portray in that add? Some kind of silly-haircut-fully-clothed-sodomy dance? :blink:

I dont appreciate being kink-shamed in that way!

[HenryDorsetCase]

My guess its the talking heads dance or the one from the breakfast club.

Its a Madness album cover

[HenryDorsetCase]

Suzukis are like lego so different tanks and stuff might fit. Because whatever that tank seat combo is, it is fucking hideous. The issue is the drop in the seat tubes but that is not the solution. Half arsed and hideous.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/3867595676?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[rastuscat]

[QUOTE=HenryDorsetCase;1131208367] Half arsed and hideous.

Which is pretty much what I think whenever I see a bike people describe as a bobber, or a cafe racer. It's basically what you do to a bike when you don't have the time, money or class to do a proper restoration.

I really don't know why so many people screw bikes up by chopping the hell out of them, then expecting others to share their enthusiasm for it.

Like this.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3867441694?bof=S2E6Ch8I

[husaberg]

Its a Madness album cover

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Talking heads same as it ever was
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madness
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but those that said madness are 100% correct


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tijwq5P6mhY

[Grumph]

[QUOTE=HenryDorsetCase;1131208367] Half arsed and hideous.

Which is pretty much what I think whenever I see a bike people describe as a bobber, or a cafe racer. It's basically what you do to a bike when you don't have the time, money or class to do a proper restoration.

I really don't know why so many people screw bikes up by chopping the hell out of them, then expecting others to share their enthusiasm for it.

Like this.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3867441694?bof=S2E6Ch8I

When that came up on screen, I flinched. I thought it was a white Munch. It does rival a Munch for ugly.

[Laava]

The side covers and seat are wrong. It could be easily sorted for the money but there is so many bits that have been painted badly and need stripping back and redoing, such as the front calipers and lever setups.

[F5 Dave]

Jeebus they are both nasty, but the GSX takes it for why the fuck did you not change the tank? It looks like a mutant penis.
And the side picture shows the gap where the equally dumb seat clearly is just rested on top, probably held on with nails.

[pritch]

Suzukis are like lego so different tanks and stuff might fit. Because whatever that tank seat combo is, it is fucking hideous. The issue is the drop in the seat tubes but that is not the solution. Half arsed and hideous.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/3867595676?bof=S2E6Ch8I

All that bike needs is another 6 in the number on the side.

[Beekeeper]

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1851106928.jpg

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/suzuki/listing/3872571169?bof=GpsD2iFf

I dont know about optimistic, but Id be concerned about the health of my cock while riding this beauty

[F5 Dave]

:gob::sick:

Oh that's repulsive! Good find.

Painting the frame at the front just makes it weirder, if that's possible.

No, hold on,. . . check out the double seat option.

He's over it he says. Well you're going to attract some dreamers in that market sector.

[husaberg]

i remember seeing one like this down in the 80's
https://motorcyclemojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/SheCycle-040.jpg

[jellywrestler]

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1851106928.jpg

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/suzuki/listing/3872571169?bof=GpsD2iFf

I dont know about optimistic, but Id be concerned about the health of my cock while riding this beauty

if you wore all the gear all the time your Womb Broom should be well tucked away safe

[pete376403]

i remember seeing one like this down in the 80's
https://motorcyclemojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/SheCycle-040.jpg

Didn't John Britten make something like this, modelled on his GF/Wife?

[pritch]

Didn't John Britten make something like this, modelled on his GF/Wife?

Not quite. I checked Google images but photos of riderless Brittens looking vertical down seem hard to find.

[husaberg]

Didn't John Britten make something like this, modelled on his GF/Wife?


Not quite. I checked Google images but photos of riderless Brittens looking vertical down seem hard to find.

classic coke bottle maybe but that was to fit rider
it might expalin why the exhaust inlet and water plumbing were so close together though
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[HenryDorsetCase]

I was reading a test earlier this month of some new bike and it had the rad under the seat and ducted air from the front of the bike through the rad to exhaust in the low pressure zone behind the rider. It s the new great thing apparently and I was like "JB did that 30 years ago!" also their ducting solution was ugly as fuck. Can't find it now.

[onearmedbandit]

I was reading a test earlier this month of some new bike and it had the rad under the seat and ducted air from the front of the bike through the rad to exhaust in the low pressure zone behind the rider. It s the new great thing apparently and I was like "JB did that 30 years ago!" also their ducting solution was ugly as fuck. Can't find it now.

And JB copied it from a French designer I believe.

[F5 Dave]

There was a least one manuwatu bucket bike with rad be(low) seat in the late 80s. No ducting, but whaddya want?

[husaberg]

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Q3TIXf1_bpM/TfjYWsRFKeI/AAAAAAAAA0U/jFOa80cDxBo/s400/SAxon-posteriore2.jpg
the Saxon triumph at a similar time had a ducted rad as well the ducted rad goes back to WW2
http://www.supercoolprops.com/home/articles/meredith_effect2.html#:~:text=In%20that%20article% 2C%20Atwood%20describes,Spitfire%20using%20the%20s ame%20engine.
https://www.kitplanes.com/the-meredith-effect-fact-or-fiction/

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=4876

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/North_American_P-51_Mustang.jpg

the girders allegedly owed a bit to hossak
https://www.hossack-design.com/copy-of-projects

the frenchie fraser maybe thinking of is Claude Fior who did a lot of stuff esp for funny front ends
no idea re ducted rad
https://bikereview.com.au/claude-fior-the-motorcycling-musketeer/
https://amcn.com.au/editorial/french-revolution-claude-fiors-finest/

[jellywrestler]

my 1960 austin cambridge had a ducted radiator the air came through a grill and there was a four inch duct to the radiator. Those Saxons were built a while after the late model Brittens, Robert Holden raced one too I recall. The NR500 had a ducted radiator at the side of their bikes to, air came in the front and out via them warming the riders legs nicely.

[Jazzed]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/yamaha/listing/3878427585

"Fantastic bike with a heap of great upgrades that make this a very attractive and useable one off machine....."

I dont know where to start.... the rude little exhaust... or the badly fitting plastics/carbon

[F5 Dave]

Couple of mates had those. Great bike and would be worth saving. . . At 1/3rd that price. Jeez.

I know! Speedblock always looks good on Yamahas. . . Until it doesn't.

[Grumph]

i've seen worse. But yeah, the price....

[Laava]

Cut the top of some cockies mailbox, spread some cheap carbon film on and BAM! Instant cool solo seat!

[dangerous]

https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/1974-ducati-750-supersport-750ss/SSE-AD-13510164/?Cr=135

[husaberg]

https://youtu.be/zrTEL0XAARQ

Greg now you have decent net....
Bob seems to be the age i remember him being when i was a kid?

Were you there Spider?

I would have asked what happened to the 5 valvers ,were they all converted back to 4 valves?
i think Lauren Poole raced the 5 valver in the year they did the nats but i might be wrong.

[Grumph]

Bob doesn't age much. Afaik there was only one 5 valve engine. When it blew I assume the cases etc went into the general spares pool.

The Duc in aussie is probably correctly priced. Absurd and it'll never be ridden again.

[pritch]

Bob seems to be the age i remember him being when i was a kid?


I never met Bob but I did sell him a bike.

[dangerous]

The Duc in aussie is probably correctly priced. Absurd and it'll never be ridden again.

WTF is the point of a bike if its not riden...

[Laava]

I'm with you on that one D but I don't have the money to change it!

[Grumph]

WTF is the point of a bike if its not riden...

Well, the one I've kept is simply there to taunt me. And to show that occasionally I did good work.
If I could be sure the cats wouldn't piss on it I'd move it into the lounge.

[HenryDorsetCase]

WTF is the point of a bike if its not riden...

absolutely. Particularly a competition bike. If it is a static display it may as well have wooden dowels inside the fork legs and no internals in the cases. I was watching a guy on a youtube vid the other day not thrashing the tits off, but driving in a spirited manner a 70 MILLION pound Ferrari 250 GTO - round Goodwood. This isnt the video but its worth it just for the soundtrack - plus onboard:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MANN7jluq0o

So if these guys can do that, then a half million dollar Ducati (or an RC30 or 45, or all manner of competition two strokes, or vintage MV's or whatever) can and should be ridden. Even just paraded if not raced - and racers being racers the parade laps will be quicker than I could go.

[onearmedbandit]

It probably will get ridden again, or it probably won't. Who knows?

[pritch]

This rainy morning I watched forty odd minutes of a guy looking at the cars for auction at Sliverstone a couple of weeks ago. The prices were eye watering but even more surprising were the mileages. Most had hardly ever been driven, some had never been driven at all.

There were some bikes but very much an afterthought. He mentioned them mainly because a couple were his. This at 30.35 IIRC.

In case it's still raining where you are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljZadXKe78k

[Drew]

It probably will get ridden again, or it probably won't. Who knows?

Schrodinger's bike ya reckon?

[dangerous]

Well, the one I've kept is simply there to taunt me. And to show that occasionally I did good work.
If I could be sure the cats wouldn't piss on it I'd move it into the lounge.

and it is? fuck it post a pic, and I hope you are able to ride it round the block every now n again...

[Grumph]

Kept this. Last time it was raced in anger was Brighton '92. It now lives pretty well on the start line of that circuit. I'd love to ride it round the block, lol.

[roogazza]

Ahhhhh Budget Spares ! Wasn't that "Agent Orange " (Kirby ??) :laugh::msn-wink::msn-wink:

[Grumph]

Ahhhhh Budget Spares ! Wasn't that "Agent Orange " (Kirby ??) :laugh::msn-wink::msn-wink:

Yeah. Ran that bike while I was the workshop. Kirb's still around.

[roogazza]

Yeah. Ran that bike while I was the workshop. Kirb's still around.

Oh the memories !! seems many moons ago,and it is !
Say gidday from me sometime. ciao G.

[Berries]

I was watching a guy on a youtube vid the other day not thrashing the tits off, but driving in a spirited manner a 70 MILLION pound Ferrari 250 GTO - round Goodwood.
At Rally NZ a couple of months back Greg Murphy was doing parade laps in a seven figure Lancia at Jacks Ridge. Each lap he was getting more and more air on one of the jumps. The owner must have been shitting themselves.

[dangerous]

Yeah. Ran that bike while I was the workshop. Kirb's still around.

fucker came across the counter at me once and called the cops... didnt have any time for the wanker LOL

[husaberg]

fucker came across the counter at me once and called the cops... didnt have any time for the wanker LOL

had you perchance mentioned he was a wanker mere seconds before he leapt at you?
Was he also a Ranga?

[Grumph]

had you perchance mentioned he was a wanker mere seconds before he leapt at you?
Was he also a Ranga?

Knowing both, it's quite probable. But there was usually at least one incident like that each week.

And no. Merely socially challenged.

[Grumph]

Always Optimistic and I haven't put a bike for sale for a long time. Not sure what it's worth but here we go. Time to sell it My wife tells me. i'm 61 now and have to agree.

Selling my Gen 2 'Busa 2011 38.4ks on the clock . One owner from new, just me. Yoshi R22 pipes. KN Filter , Ventura pack rack. Factory Suzuki Gel seat. Buell pegs. Bar raiser kit fitted. Z levers, All original parts come with the bike.

Including all the books etc, always servced by the dealer. It's the black one with the red Japanese graphics.

I was thinking of asking 15k for it. Comments ?


At 61 I was in my prime. You're at least 5 years away from giving up bikes. Just downsize.

[Beekeeper]

Im only here to try and get on the podium for the 1000th page

[Beekeeper]

fuck me, just when you thought you hit rock bottom, they excavated another level
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/other/listing/3885280321

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1465339716.jpg

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/other/listing/3885280321

[Oscar]

Coming to a Court House near you:

"This is a high spec electric Harley scooter.."

[onearmedbandit]

I try to keep an open mind, and I know there's a buyer for almost everything, but just no.

[JimO]

Coming to a Court House near you:

"This is a high spec electric Harley scooter.."
yea but it has a oil brake

[Drew]

Like, the styling is not my thing and shit. But that's about what a scooter/moped thing goes for. If it comes registered that's OK buying.

[Laava]

Pretty cheap for a Harley. About time they dropped their prices.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3874652065


60 large? Tell 'im 'e's dreamin'!

[onearmedbandit]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/3874652065


60 large? Tell 'im 'e's dreamin'!

Looks like he's happy to just leave it advertised until the bike reaches that value. I know a few people who have done that with rare vehicles, just left them at the price they want until the market catches up then boom sold.

[Oscar]

While we're looking at TM, what the fuck is either "classic" or "vintage" about a new Royal Enfield, BMW R9T or Guzzi V7?
Or a near new Keeway (what the actual fuck is a Keeway?) or Ducati Scrambler?

Out of 383 bikes in this category, 118 of these bikes are less than 10 years old....

[HenryDorsetCase]

Looks like he's happy to just leave it advertised until the bike reaches that value. I know a few people who have done that with rare vehicles, just left them at the price they want until the market catches up then boom sold.

Old mate with the purple H2, fr'instance.

[HenryDorsetCase]

While we're looking at TM, what the fuck is either "classic" or "vintage" about a new Royal Enfield, BMW R9T or Guzzi V7?
Or a near new Keeway (what the actual fuck is a Keeway?) or Ducati Scrambler?

Out of 383 bikes in this category, 118 of these bikes are less than 10 years old....

When you're right, you're right.

[pritch]

Old mate with the purple H2, fr'instance.

The same guy that has that sand cast Honda for 60 large has an H1 for more reasonable money.

[Laava]

Do all the scramblers come from the same place? They all look the same.

[F5 Dave]

Looks like he's happy to just leave it advertised until the bike reaches that value. I know a few people who have done that with rare vehicles, just left them at the price they want until the market catches up then boom sold.
Well, 'BOOM' seems a little enthusiastic for something waiting for market to catch up?

If I was him I'd ebay it. Plenty more money around there and for US exchange money it might get snapped up at that.

I still wonder how long is too long to wait for your investment to peak. At my age that has no real appeal to me other than knowing what it was. Add another 10 years and yeah, that guy could have spare coin and have wanted one 'cause his uncle used to turn up on one. Add another 10 years and he wouldn't be so keen on manhandling it and his uncle's been put in the ground a while back.

[F5 Dave]

Oh fuk off. 15 years old and how much?. Geez.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/honda/listing/3885387855

[F5 Dave]

Just one burning question. . . https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bmw/listing/3888863557

[HenryDorsetCase]

Just one burning question. . . https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bmw/listing/3888863557
He needs to watch my favourite custom builder (46works Shiroh Nakajima) - he gets titanium tube and heats it, by hand to make smooth curves to fit those engines. it is beautiful. And you know you're watching an actual craftsman at the top of his game. Zen, and stuff.

Here's an example.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEUT7BwdRmA

[onearmedbandit]

Well, 'BOOM' seems a little enthusiastic for something waiting for market to catch up?



Not at all. You see you forgot about it, then one day it gets snapped up. so the expression fits. A bomb you've forgotten about still goes boom.

[HenryDorsetCase]

This new Ducati Monster is a nice looking little bike. only ten grand too. Its got all the Monster signatures though: trellis frame, upright riding position, feisty little engine (water cooled on this version), and OK cycle components.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/suzuki/listing/3877878469


tis the opposite of "optimistic"

[pete376403]

He needs to watch my favourite custom builder (46works Shiroh Nakajima) - he gets titanium tube and heats it, by hand to make smooth curves to fit those engines. it is beautiful. And you know you're watching an actual craftsman at the top of his game. Zen, and stuff.

Here's an example.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEUT7BwdRmA
I could spend a lot of time watching that guy - very satisfying

[pritch]

"Labour of love" or a nightmare. They'll need a variety of expertise to get that lot sorted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snL5iyHad8Q

[HenryDorsetCase]

I could spend a lot of time watching that guy - very satisfying

You can, and you should.

[F5 Dave]

This new Ducati Monster is a nice looking little bike. only ten grand too. Its got all the Monster signatures though: trellis frame, upright riding position, feisty little engine (water cooled on this version), and OK cycle components.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/suzuki/listing/3877878469


tis the opposite of "optimistic"
So many pictures but maybe it only has a Right hand side? Actually looks funky for a soozuk

[F5 Dave]

Not at all. You see you forgot about it, then one day it gets snapped up. so the expression fits. A bomb you've forgotten about still goes boom.
Reminds me of movie Hot Fuzz where they confiscated a WW2 sea mine and held it at the Police station. . .

[Laava]

So many pictures but maybe it only has a Right hand side? Actually looks funky for a soozuk

Often the case. I wonder if it is just the sidestand causing this?

[Oscar]

Just one burning question. . . https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bmw/listing/3888863557

The answer that you're looking for is that the author of that atrocity should be shot with a ball of his own shit.

[HenryDorsetCase]

a thousand pages of sniping, WTF? whinging and moaning. Good job lads, keep it up.

[F5 Dave]

I was going to say , sorry Beekeeper, I sniped the 1000 page header by accident.

But re the Beemer with the badly made pipes, my burning question was merely "Ouch! Who designed the pipes at thigh level?!?@@#!!"


There's a fine line between Unique, and Oh. . . I guess I didn't think about that. .:nya:

[onearmedbandit]

a thousand pages of sniping, WTF? whinging and moaning. Good job lads, keep it up.

375 pages for me, I think I have my view set to 40 posts per page.

[pete376403]

"Labour of love" or a nightmare. They'll need a variety of expertise to get that lot sorted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snL5iyHad8Q

a (very) long time ago* I went up to the mezzanine floor of Whites in Dixon Street to look at used bikes - it was almost like that.

*Long go enough that Garry Gill was selling bikes there and offered me a look.

[Dadpole]

*Long go enough that Garry Gill was selling bikes there and offered me a look.

Bloody 'ell... You are an old bugger.

[Laava]

There is/was a small vehicle collection in Te Kopuru. I say that cos I heard the old guy died recently. Whoever was telling me that also told me that it was all getting sold off. All the mezzanine floor was bikes, mostly pom stuff but there was one downstairs, a mid sixties Triumph Tiger still in the crate. The lid was loose and he showed us but 5 decades of dust had accumulated and it needed some kind of attention I guess. So, not sure if it has been sold or what but interesting. What would it be good for tho, still in the crate? The sides and top were ply so you could only look down upon. I think they come packed complete but front wheel off?

[nzspokes]

Lets talk DR650s. :eek:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/listing/3889902644?bof=lhHup4rj

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/suzuki/listing/3882859561?bof=lhHup4rj

:no::no::no::no::no::no::no:

[Laava]

Wow that first one got crashed early!

[F5 Dave]

So the talk of my mates while away is that the DR650 should be reintroduced with ABS as people are asking silly money for high mileage bikes as you can't get them new. . . They reckon it will happen.

That first one is shite though.

[JATZ]

So the talk of my mates while away is that the DR650 should be reintroduced with ABS as people are asking silly money for high mileage bikes as you can't get them new. . . They reckon it will happen.

That first one is shite though.
Probably need fuel injection too, and all the fluff that goes with it. It'd still only have an analog speedo though...

[nzspokes]

So the talk of my mates while away is that the DR650 should be reintroduced with ABS as people are asking silly money for high mileage bikes as you can't get them new. . . They reckon it will happen.

That first one is shite though.

My 2004 DR650 rally is currently worth 20k if your lookin. :shifty:

[HenryDorsetCase]

My 2004 DR650 rally is currently worth 20k if your lookin. :shifty:

a $7k Royal Enfield Himalayan is functionally equivalent and significantly cheaper, surely?