Optimistic sellers

[Kickaha]

No idea what is LAMs, to old to care about that malarkey. Just know what obviously fails the criteria with mods.

Learner Approved Motorcycle

All sorts of interesting bikes on it, all the BSA range, Diesel Pig went through the process and got the Suzuki T350 added to it, the Beta300 range is also approved

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/getting-a-licence/licences-by-vehicle-type/motorcycles/lams/lams-approved-and-prohibited-motorcycles/

Any modification that increases power to weight ratio and it is no longer LAMs eligible although under 250cc are allowed full exhausts and tuning

There's also a fair few bikes I've seen advertised with obvious frame mods which should have certification

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah it's always been a larf that the NC35 is LAMs but the NC30 isn't. Obviously it fulfills the criteria of claimed power to weight ratio.

[F5 Dave]

Ha! Beta 300RR approved, but my XTrainer with same engine but slightly lighter, not so. Actually with std pipe is about 1/2 the power.

[diesel pig]

Learner Approved Motorcycle

All sorts of interesting bikes on it, all the BSA range, Diesel Pig went through the process and got the Suzuki T350 added to it, the Beta300 range is also approved

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/getting-a-licence/licences-by-vehicle-type/motorcycles/lams/lams-approved-and-prohibited-motorcycles/

Any modification that increases power to weight ratio and it is no longer LAMs eligible although under 250cc are allowed full exhausts and tuning

There's also a fair few bikes I've seen advertised with obvious frame mods which should have certification

I only did that because it annoyed me that when I had a looked through that same List for LAMS bikes it had T500s and T250s Listed and the T350 is right between those two in power to weight. So I e-mailed nzta to whinge and they e-mailed me back that if I could prove that, They would include it in the list. As I had the factory manual for it, I scan the Title page and spec page e-mailed them to the nzta. When they e-mailed me to let me know it was on the list I was so pleased I printed out the e-mail, framed and hung it above where I park my T350.

[jellywrestler]

I only did that because it annoyed me that when I had a looked through that same List for LAMS bikes it had T500s and T250s Listed and the T350 is right between those two in power to weight. So I e-mailed nzta to whinge and they e-mailed me back that if I could prove that, They would include it in the list. As I had the factory manual for it, I scan the Title page and spec page e-mailed them to the nzta. When they e-mailed me to let me know it was on the list I was so pleased I printed out the e-mail, framed and hung it above where I park my T350.

Government agencies are often fun to play with, A while ago I laid a complaint with the advertising standards authority as there was an advert saying '30% of all men suffer from premature ejaculation'
Basically I said it was anything but suffering, after all when you're eyes are rolling back in your head, your toes are curled up and you're pumping population paste it is anything but suffering.
Got a letter back saying my complaint had been upheld and advert removed.
I was the first of a few to complain about the same advert, it was for another reason it was withdrawn however.

[Laava]

So they used the withdrawal method?






fnarr fnarr!

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5123734457

Not optimistic if ten large owns it.

Its cool as shit and well done by the looks.

[BMWST?]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5123734457

Not optimistic if ten large owns it.

Its cool as shit and well done by the looks.

and they very good pics. Which is ussually not the case with these listings

[F5 Dave]

I think this is what 'those listings' had in mind when they figured they could do similar and started unbolting large chunks off their clunker.

Then they typically run out of competence.
You'd have to see it but on my phone it looks well executed. Not my thing but have at it as they say.

[pritch]

Not my thing but have at it as they say.

Yeah. IIRC mine cost $1750.00 new but unless restored it would be looking very sad by now. Something like this would be infinitely prefereble. Not for me though, for somebody else.

[Racing Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5123734457

Not optimistic if ten large owns it.

Its cool as shit and well done by the looks.

I agree; no brown seat and no wrapped pipes. Hooray!

[F5 Dave]

There are some that cruelly say that SR250s are miserable little puss buckets...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5131927733

Personally I think they are being too kind.

Heck he hasn't even matched the hipster tyres.

[F5 Dave]

And this is a special kind of ugly.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5128898762

[jellywrestler]

And this is a special kind of ugly.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5128898762

mistakes turns heads for people shaking their heads....

[husaberg]

And this is a special kind of ugly.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5128898762


mistakes turns heads for people shaking their heads....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JuTlRc1xww

Some great Otago scenery in there
I watched battletruck the other week, that CX reminds me of the bike in it
It also had cliff from cheers in it as some post apocalyptic macgyver/a team fabricator.
I remember my father made a model of the truck from some sort of traveling thing that went with the movie release premiers.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMGM5YjczMzQtYTk4Yy00MzA0LTk2ZDUtNzE5YTliM2NjN2 UzXkEyXkFqcGc@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpghttps://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKtU_I4oQwhIL5z63QbQPJWIcyBvNn3TFT5zdbEf9gom iPYSxtZtcAfeOLZLm84DJPtq0tk1S3AcnvSD4eDi3YBJp_-HevjVn3M1EtpFImR8uWFzo9qUFqfV0xlvxSDOgLUOf2qnf6ilE/s1600/vlcsnap-00003.png

[pritch]

And this is a special kind of ugly.


Not that it was ever beautiful but that is baaaaad.

[jellywrestler]

Not that it was ever beautiful but that is baaaaad.

started life as the euro with usuually pearl white paint, a bikini fairing
, they to me were a nice looking bike, compared to the first model Cervix 500.

[Kickaha]

There are some that cruelly say that SR250s are miserable little puss buckets...

I'd have that as a commuter with different tyres and a not so optimistic price tag



And this is a special kind of ugly.

They're ugly in stock form and they certainly haven't made it look any better

[F5 Dave]

Oh gawd, had to sit through Cattletruck as somebody's choice of video on a rainy weekend.

[sugilite]

And this is a special kind of ugly.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5128898762

Uh oh, I kinda like it - I'm sorry :(
Would not want to own it though lol

Another AI generated description I see.

[dangerous]

[
I remember my father made a model of the truck from some sort of traveling thing that went with the movie release premiers.
I seen it driving past chch airport on the way south cool as fuck...


There are some that cruelly say that SR250s are miserable little puss buckets...
meet up with your friends... WTF ya wouldent have any, and at that price ya couldent aford to buy any..


And this is a special kind of ugly.

FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE...



started life as the euro with usuually pearl white paint, a bikini fairing
, they to me were a nice looking bike, compared to the first model Cervix 500.
500 eurosports actually the 400 was just the euro... and thank you my good sir for appreciating a great machine, and the A/B were a fine thing ahead of its time too.

355622 355621. 355623. 355624

[dangerous]

... and thank you my good sir for appreciating a great machine, andthe A/B were a fine thing ahead of its time too.

WANA see my 500 and 650 TURBO photos toooooooo

[dangerous]

WANA see my 500 and 650 TURBO photos toooooooo

yeah... fucking oath mate what ya got...

[dangerous]

yeah... fucking oath mate what ya got...

sure thing mate... horny shit right here...

355625. 355626. 355627

[dangerous]

fuck you are a cool as dude man...

[dangerous]

fuck you are a cool as dude man...

I know ya fucking twat...

[Kickaha]

Can someone give the fucking stupid Ginga his meds

[husaberg]

Can someone give the fucking stupid Ginga his meds
https://hatboy.blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/02_3guy2.jpg

[JimO]

fuck you are a cool as dude man...


he looks.........................................dang erous

[Kickaha]

https://hatboy.blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/02_3guy2.jpg

You two make a lovely couple

[husaberg]

You two make a lovely couple

You would never catch me of a kawa Z, or with a ginger

[dangerous]

You would never catch me of a kawa Z, or with a ginger

thats not what you said the other night in bed hun...

[sugilite]

https://hatboy.blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/02_3guy2.jpg

Are sidecar teams still a thing in the age of mad max? I figured the oil shortage would of immediately eliminated them.

[husaberg]

Are sidecar teams still a thing in the age of mad max? I figured the oil shortage would of immediately eliminated them.
I made a similar joke when the were on their way out to the track at Ruapuna last week.
Atlhough mine was about how long it was going to take to remove all the oil.

[jellywrestler]

I made a similar joke when the were on their way out to the track at Ruapuna last week.
Atlhough mine was about how long it was going to take to remove all the oil.

Bears racing is next month though

[HenryDorsetCase]

They wouldnt thank you for an oil dump this weekend - its the Skope Classic & one of their biggest weekends of the year.

[sugilite]

They wouldnt thank you for an oil dump this weekend - its the Skope Classic & one of their biggest weekends of the year.

Is there any truth to the rumor that they call their sidecars "rigs" in honor of oil rigs?

[Drew]

This fucking wounder.
He spent good money on a drive train, and threw it in a fucked body that really could be cool.
Then, without seeking any of the prerequisite legal docs wants to off load.

This car is fucked. It'd be fucken fast, but you will die if the wind changes and the sheetmetal flies away.

https://www.facebook.com/share/1A2QZTVoVx/

[onearmedbandit]

This fucking wounder.
He spent good money on a drive train, and threw it in a fucked body that really could be cool.
Then, without seeking any of the prerequisite legal docs wants to off load.

This car is fucked. It'd be fucken fast, but you will die if the wind changes and the sheetmetal flies away.

https://www.facebook.com/share/1A2QZTVoVx/

Ohhh I recognise the seller. Someone on here might too, including you.

[dangerous]

Those 250's and the swollen pustulent 400 twins were never more than basic transport.

The small fours can be made to go and look good too. One i built earlier, now racing in Oz. Quite successfully too. 465cc

awesome shit Greg... your wisdom and knowledge will be missed, Ill see ya in MC hell ya grumpy old prick.

[Laava]

Well this is mint.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/suzuki/listing/5154109089

[Kickaha]

Well this is mint.



You spelled "fucking ugly" wrong

[F5 Dave]

So if you want a lairy streetfighter OK. Silly bars and headlight can be changed.
But why put a Tractor seat on it??:lol:

[SaferRides]

So if you want a lairy streetfighter OK. Silly bars and headlight can be changed.
But why put a Tractor seat on it??[emoji38]And the swingarm? At least the seat isn't brown.

Sent from my SM-S906E using Tapatalk

[sugilite]

Well this is mint.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/suzuki/listing/5154109089

Holy fuck what a mutilation. He probably runs a side business offering circumcisions using a blunt axe :no:

[F5 Dave]

Ah the swingarm gives you the drag look and extension parts are available in US and UK for that purpose. Would make the bike drop into corners and steer like it's 'On Railstm ' (like a locomotive).
Not much use on an old 750 you'd think. Obviously attracted to the look.
TBH I kinda missed that as I couldn't see passed Farmer John's perch.

I like the paint. I'm funny like that.

[onearmedbandit]

I'm curious how it looks and feels to ride with the forward controls.

Nah, I tell a lie, I'm really not.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I might buy this

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/5157560981

[husaberg]

I might buy this

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/5157560981

if you do can you lower the tank down into the top rail please.:scratch:
Also if you are feeling Flush ,the Motard will be up for sale soon nice low seat height and just finished second in the under 600 national high climb championship
EX JC's own race bike. One of two made.

[Kickaha]

I might buy this

Waste of time, they've just fucked it for both applications, there a guy who builds them into proper usable scramblers which are far better

[F5 Dave]

I'm curious how it looks and feels to ride with the forward controls.

Nah, I tell a lie, I'm really not.
What?! I missed that as well. What a fuking abortion!

[F5 Dave]

Waste of time, they've just fucked it for both applications, there a guy who builds them into proper usable scramblers which are far better
. . . 'Both' applications?
That's two more than I can think of.:scratch:

Might want the rear tyre for next bike but. . .

[onearmedbandit]

What?! I missed that as well. What a fuking abortion!

Says it's cert'ed for all the mods, cert plate says "5spd Man". Now either he swapped it for the GSXR1100 'box and didn't mention it or he has no idea.

[Kickaha]

. . . 'Both' applications?
That's two more than I can think of.:scratch:

Might want the rear tyre for next bike but. . .

I was thinking road and off road, it's still usable as a boat anchor

[Laava]

Holy fuck what a mutilation. He probably runs a side business offering circumcisions using a blunt axe :no:
Judging by the appendage up on the LHS, I think he is into jousting.

[F5 Dave]

Says it's cert'ed for all the mods, cert plate says "5spd Man". Now either he swapped it for the GSXR1100 'box and didn't mention it or he has no idea.

Why would that be on the LVV plate?

Having said that it took 3 attempts to get my LVV plate wrong but explainable enough to use. We gave up at that point as using logic was futile.

[Laava]

well this is ordinary enough…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/harley-davidson/listing/5169175954 (https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/harley-davidson/listing/5169175954)

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[sugilite]

well this is ordinary enough…
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/harley-davidson/listing/5169175954 (https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/harley-davidson/listing/5169175954)

Yikes, that takes me back to my sesame st childhood days.. "one of these things is not like the others".

[F5 Dave]

Oh its got patina up the waazoo.

If you want to buy a dirty 883 for 3x as much as it isn't worth anyway <_<

[pritch]

Oh its got patina up the waazoo.


His spelling is quite ummm creative? I'm particularly impressed by his invention of an original oxymoron: "new patina".

[F5 Dave]

If you want to stunt, don't you just buy a crashed Sprotsbiketm. Or even better 1200 Bandit, add a long chain and 60t sprocket, cave the top of the tank in as a perch and there you are?

[Laava]

You prolly want something injected in any case so it can run reliably at the 12oclock position?
Plus, that bike has none of the stunting setup, extra brake calipers, super low gearing, throttle lock etc etc

[dangerous]

well this is ordinary enough…

muppits on the glass bowl mate... 30k fuck me... as for his sales pitch... was a good lough guys got humour

[Drew]

If you want to stunt, don't you just buy a crashed Sprotsbiketm. Or even better 1200 Bandit, add a long chain and 60t sprocket, cave the top of the tank in as a perch and there you are?
Kind of. Bandit is WAY too heavy. 600s are the best.

You prolly want something injected in any case so it can run reliably at the 12oclock position?
Plus, that bike has none of the stunting setup, extra brake calipers, super low gearing, throttle lock etc etc
Carbs wheelie just fine right up to the subframe scraping.

It's stoppies where they can come unstuck. My FZR would starve for fuel with the back wheel up, then it would be a cunt to start. Bit embarrassing with an audience, so I never really worked on my stoppie game.

[Laava]

Nah bro I stoppie everywhere!


actually I was only saying that cos my D class 4x4 mate put LPG on his machine as it would cut out or splutter on the upright sections and die when he was rollingover and there was a bit of mojo to be had being able to just drive on out of that crazy shit!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Nah bro I stoppie everywhere!


actually I was only saying that cos my D class 4x4 mate put LPG on his machine as it would cut out or splutter on the upright sections and die when he was rollingover and there was a bit of mojo to be had being able to just drive on out of that crazy shit!

I love that stuff. This "it cuts out when other than horizontal" thread has got me thinking about the upside down Daimler Benz V12 in a WW2 FW-190 and how the induction works. (mechanical fuel injection) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_601 - a boon to the piston powered fighter plane. Especially if your carburetted Spitfire spluttered and died........ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin Though Mis Shillings orifice did help with that.

Did we all see the C130-H flyover today?

[onearmedbandit]

Did we all see the C130-H flyover today?

Yup, certainly did. Then watched it land at Wigram. (timestamped)

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[HenryDorsetCase]

I didnt realise it was going to land. If I knew that I would have gone :( I saw it from the balcony at work as it flew over. When we lived in Riccarton when Wigram was an airbase they fairly routinely landed and took off from there. If there was a southerly blowing their final approach from the north was right over our house. Fucking cool as shit.

[dangerous]

Yup, certainly did. Then watched it land at Wigram. (timestamped)

at 4:15 and 39 you can see me LOL


Fucking cool as shit.
yes... yes it was, A4k, strikemaster, Bell... all FCS then there were the air shows and car/bike races... was a awesome place, even whan I square bashed in a hanger for hours on end... was sad seiing 01 grounded forever.

[dangerous]

3K... for a 42yr old 50 with no gears... FFS

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5185761873

[jellywrestler]

3K... for a 42yr old 50 with no gears... FFS

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5185761873

google collectors item

[dangerous]

google collectors item

ITS NOT A COLECTORS ITEM FFS... I know where theres a dozen of em, all run but not all as tidy... shit to learn on too go straight to a xr50 seen to many kids arse up on QRs

[onearmedbandit]

ITS NOT A COLECTORS ITEM FFS... I know where theres a dozen of em, all run but not all as tidy... shit to learn on too go straight to a xr50 seen to many kids arse up on QRs

I know a collector who has one in his collection.

[Stylo]

I know a collector who has one in his collection.

I have a Honda in my collection too.

2001 CR500R. Last model, zero hour bike.

Had it since new.

[dangerous]

I know a collector who has one in his collection.
LOL... i collect empty dunny role tubes... dont mean they are worth anything

[onearmedbandit]

LOL... i collect empty dunny role tubes... dont mean they are worth anything

Being a lazy prick and not chucking the empty rolls out does not make it a proper collection

[pete376403]

Being a lazy prick and not chucking the empty rolls out does not make it a proper collection
They can be useful - stand on end in a tray, fill with potting mix and plant seeds. transfer the whole thing into the garden when established and the cardboard rots away.

[Laava]

I collect wives.
well I've started.
will see how this one goes so I can get a complimentary one to "fill" the gaps. And so on.

[F5 Dave]

Haha, assume she doesn't have your login.

Anyway let's get this going back on track before I go run in a bike on a sunny school day (sorry boss, but the weather. . . )

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/5184298415

Lots of non std parts with cheap generic stuff, fork boots look like they fit as well as a tranny's shoes, bet tops are rusty. Nice Vance and Hines badge on a generic exhaust, dumb seat at least in black. Description, hmm, bet it's low on compression. Had short while and buying a better bike.

Yeah nah , as they used to say in the 2020s.

[dangerous]

Being a lazy prick and not chucking the empty rolls out does not make it a proper collection
well... they are collecting outside the bog window in the garden...




Lots of non std parts with cheap generic stuff, fork boots look like they fit as well as a tranny's shoes, bet tops are rusty. Nice Vance and Hines badge on a generic exhaust, dumb seat at least in black. Description, hmm, bet it's low on compression. Had short while and buying a better bike.
Yeah nah , as they used to say in the 2020s.

well... its a beter buy that this also a 77 650 for 6.5k https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5180519305

[F5 Dave]

Fuking hell! Good find. $200.

But jezzuz. You test that lovely wife of yours. You know you are punching up yeah?

Start being more considerate before she kicks you to the curb.

If she does let me know and I'll make a play. However my wife tells me I'm only allowed another if she can cook Thai food.:banana:

[dangerous]

Fuking hell! Good find. $200.

But jezzuz. You test that lovely wife of yours. You know you are punching up yeah?

Start being more considerate before she kicks you to the curb.

If she does let me know and I'll make a play. However my wife tells me I'm only allowed another if she can cook Thai food.:banana:

WTF are you referring to Dave?

[F5 Dave]

The used toilet rolls thrown to the wayside. Keep up man.

[Kickaha]

I have a Honda in my collection too.

2001 CR500R. Last model, zero hour bike.

Had it since new.

Sad that it hasn't been ridden, but also your bike to do with it what you want



well... its a beter buy that this also a 77 650 for 6.5k https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5180519305

XS650 go for dumb money, wouldn't be surprised if it got close to that

[dangerous]

The used toilet rolls thrown to the wayside. Keep up man.
sorry... bit slower than usual, and she dont cook Thai... actually she dont cook shit... brought a fucking robo vac the other day so dont even do that any more...

[F5 Dave]

This is a p
jhttp://https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/5202806702 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/5202806702) project bike

How much?

An ok commuting bike but thats it. Much more for your money available and I can virtually guarantee why it is off the road from experience as a 17yr old.

Repairs are what it's worth.

[husaberg]

This is a p
jhttp://https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/5202806702 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/5202806702) project bike

How much?

An ok commuting bike but thats it. Much more for your money available and I can virtually guarantee why it is off the road from experience as a 17yr old.

Repairs are what it's worth.

Their tanks look okay on BSA's. a10's B33's rd etc

[F5 Dave]

Pity one of those reasons is they silt out like crazy filling carbs with crap.


.and Yuck!

[husaberg]

Pity one of those reasons is they silt out like crazy filling carbs with crap.


.and Yuck!

i would blame that on on the famous suzuki diaphragm fuel tap, which encourage people to use reserve.
rather than have the bottom of the tank it as a crap trap. Emergency only use
The X7s tank looks okay on c15 b25 etc.

[F5 Dave]

No, the tanks rust out. On all 70s and 80s and 90s suzuki.
All.

[husaberg]

No, the tanks rust out. On all 70s and 80s and 90s suzuki.
All.
Must be that crap wet climate you all have...

The sunniest four locations so far in 2025 are Taranaki (621 hours), West Coast (606 hours), Mackenzie Basin (584 hours), and Central Otago (582 hours)

[Drew]

Nah, Suzuki just had the best idea to keep the fuel tap higher than the bottom of the tank. Like, on everything.
Festidious regular tank draining and cleaning is the only answer to an 80's Suzuki that goes outdoors at all.

[pritch]

Must be that crap wet climate you all have...

The sunniest four locations so far in 2025 are Taranaki (621 hours), West Coast (606 hours), Mackenzie Basin (584 hours), and Central Otago (582 hours)


The weather is occasionally mildly controversial in Taranaki. A few years back New Plymouth recorded the highest sunshine hours which must have come as a surprise to those in the corridors of power. They said the figures were wrong and ordered the measuring equipment replaced. Next year, with shiny new equipment, New Plymouth again recorded the highest number of sunshine hours. Nature's way of showing the middle finger?

[roogazza]

The weather is occasionally mildly controversial in Taranaki. A few years back New Plymouth recorded the highest sunshine hours which must have come as a surprise to those in the corridors of power. They said the figures were wrong and ordered the measuring equipment replaced. Next year, with shiny new equipment, New Plymouth again recorded the highest number of sunshine hours. Nature's way of showing the middle finger?

Lol I have a mate who's a retired boffin ,he loves data. He put a rain gauge on my fence to collect data.

I'm close to Lake Horowhenua and the weather is totally different to where we were before, close to the Tararuas (rural) Levin.
Another mate is close to where we were and our rainfall here is always about one third of the old place.

Haha, messes with Mr Boffins head !!!!!!!!!!!
(he lives Waikanae which is shit weather compaired to Levin).

[husaberg]

The weather is occasionally mildly controversial in Taranaki. A few years back New Plymouth recorded the highest sunshine hours which must have come as a surprise to those in the corridors of power. They said the figures were wrong and ordered the measuring equipment replaced. Next year, with shiny new equipment, New Plymouth again recorded the highest number of sunshine hours. Nature's way of showing the middle finger?

There is a weather station high on Mt Taranaki that completes with one high up a gorge inland from kowhiterangi for the most rainfall each year.
The Cropp rivers record is 18 meters in a year with a 48 hour record of over 1 meter.

[Kickaha]

Their tanks look okay on BSA's. a10's B33's rd etc

Fuck off they do, ugly boxy things, BSA tanks look best on BSA and there's a lot to choose from

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bsa/listing/5210323280


How cool is this???? My favourite colour (really - I'm all about the Womens Suffrage).

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/bsa/listing/5210323280


How cool is this???? My favourite colour (really - I'm all about the Womens Suffrage).
C10 seems a bit fast being a 250 side valve.
Ariel make a 200cc version I think with 3 speed called a colt. Far more sedate. If you want one I think we have most of one.

[HenryDorsetCase]

C10 seems a bit fast being a 250 side valve.
Ariel make a 200cc version I think with 3 speed called a colt. Far more sedate. If you want one I think we have most of one.


I'm good. Thanks though. I thought I was over projects but still trawl marketplace and tardme

[F5 Dave]

Geez. Must be worth heaps. Don't they realise it's been owned by me? (not me obviously).

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/triumph-bonneville/listing/5201703632

See comments.

[F5 Dave]

Sing along.
Ridin Hi on my Hi Rider, safety saddle bound, Hi Rider.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/norton/listing/5213727382?rsqid=81f04c044bf548eeb8c2a781038dff1e-003

Just me that remembers that add?

Norton always made pretty top range bikes.
Mostly. :weird:

[Laava]

Yuk, that seat tho!

[pete376403]

Sing along.
Ridin Hi on my Hi Rider, safety saddle bound, Hi Rider.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/norton/listing/5213727382?rsqid=81f04c044bf548eeb8c2a781038dff1e-003

Just me that remembers that add?

Norton always made pretty top range bikes.
Mostly. :weird:
Possibly the best part of Nortons of that era was the advertisements

[HenryDorsetCase]

Sing along.
Ridin Hi on my Hi Rider, safety saddle bound, Hi Rider.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/norton/listing/5213727382?rsqid=81f04c044bf548eeb8c2a781038dff1e-003

Just me that remembers that add?

Norton always made pretty top range bikes.
Mostly. :weird:

Peter Egan loves Nortons and there is a really good series of articles about his "last" resto of one. Expensive. Cool bikes though. I saw one of the remanufactured ones (that went tits up) last week. Lovely.

https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/12/03/1974-norton-850-commando-restoration-photo-gallery-new-life-for-an-old-britbike-peter-egan/

[jim.cox]

Possibly the best part of Nortons of that era was the advertisements

Yeah, the riding and the ownership never quite matched up

[dangerous]

Sing along.
Ridin Hi on my Hi Rider, safety saddle bound, Hi Rider.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/norton/listing/5213727382?rsqid=81f04c044bf548eeb8c2a781038dff1e-003

Just me that remembers that add?

Norton always made pretty top range bikes.
Mostly. :weird:

which bike ya link does the hole page?

[F5 Dave]

Cmon Daryl, speak engrish. Check your posts and edit. No idea what you want to say.

[dangerous]

Cmon Daryl, speak engrish. Check your posts and edit. No idea what you want to say.

your.... link... opens... a... page... of... bikes... which... bike... on... that... page... are... you... refering... TOO? FFS


Geez. Must be worth heaps. Don't they realise it's been owned by me? (not me obviously).

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/triumph-bonneville/listing/5201703632

See comments.

[jellywrestler]

your.... link... opens... a... page... of... bikes... which... bike... on... that... page... are... you... refering... TOO? FFS

try using one finger not your whole 12, it worked for me

[F5 Dave]

That's better.:sunny:

Hmm still just shows the Norton HiRider when I look at tgat link. Others seem to have commented on it so not sure how to change what seems to work for us.

[pritch]

The Norton seems to have vanished. A vast improvement IYKWIM. The top bike on the page now is a 1977 Silver Jubilee Bonneville which possibly qualifies to be here anyway. It has a 'buy now' price of $25,000 on it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/ducati/listing/5231721508

I do not understand these - even after owning (and selling) some Ducatis.

nice looking thing no doubt (though cripplingly uncomfortable for an old fat bloke to ride), fast because red. But nearly $30k? I dont understand. Also there are others that are like $15k as well?

Does anyone know?

[F5 Dave]

But is a replica, well sort of, not really, , of a bike that's worth a lot of money. Surely this is too?

[HenryDorsetCase]

But is a replica, well sort of, not really, , of a bike that's worth a lot of money. Surely this is too?


Paul Smarts Imola winning 900SS? Or the thing that won Daytona built by Phil Schilling and Cook Neilsen? (the cooler of the two, no doubt)? I dunno, man. How is it different from an equivalent year 900SS? cast wheels vs spoked but the motors the same? Or is it like those 748/749R where the motors were sandcast and came with Ti rods and valves and were built in the race shop? I have no clue, as you can likely tell.

[husaberg]

Paul Smarts Imola winning 900SS? Or the thing that won Daytona built by Phil Schilling and Cook Neilsen? (the cooler of the two, no doubt)? I dunno, man. How is it different from an equivalent year 900SS? cast wheels vs spoked but the motors the same? Or is it like those 748/749R where the motors were sandcast and came with Ti rods and valves and were built in the race shop? I have no clue, as you can likely tell.

Some people get caught up in their own emotions on what a value is. Or what they think it should be.
That price is very interesting considering the price on this one.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/ducati/listing/5227920973

In total they made about 7200 MHRs

From what I seen they made about 16000 sports classics.
Neither really float my boat.
Give me a 851/888 anyday. They only made about 3200 ish of these.
I thought it was 5k but what ever it is it was smaller then the number of RC30's built so go figure how one of those si worth more then a 1990 SP2 ho,olgation special that was only one of less then 400
The made about 400 Green frame 750ss which are highly prized.
Which is what I think makes people think somehow all Ducatis are collectors items sure to be worth zillions in the future.

[F5 Dave]

Don't know how many YZF750SP they made but no bugger over here knew what they were anyway so I made a special light weight version with mine as never was going to get collector money and I wanted to ride it. Being a Yamaha I did about 48,000km and of course never had to look inside the engine aside from valve check (no shims required) and neither would the next guy.

Eat yer heart out Dooclattery.

[Kickaha]

In total they made about 7200 MHRs


They made more of them than Darmahs, I sold my MHR Mille about 10 years ago for 20k, I think 40k is probably dreaming and 30-35k more realistic but some of these bikes go for dumb money, I sold my Darmah late nineties for 5.5k and now you'd pay triple for one in the same condition, guys from Oz were buying them to ship back over as they were cheaper here even with freight

[husaberg]

Don't know how many YZF750SP they made but no bugger over here knew what they were anyway so I made a special light weight version with mine as never was going to get collector money and I wanted to ride it. Being a Yamaha I did about 48,000km and of course never had to look inside the engine aside from valve check (no shims required) and neither would the next guy.

Eat yer heart out Dooclattery.
I know they made 500 one year which I think was the min number for homolgation for WSBK 1993?
I have seen a total of 1000 or up 2000 mentioned. For all years.
They might be worth more though if any of them won a WSBK championship.:msn-wink:

Scott Griff I think has a ZXR750RR?

[jellywrestler]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/ducati/listing/5231721508

I do not understand these - even after owning (and selling) some Ducatis.

nice looking thing no doubt (though cripplingly uncomfortable for an old fat bloke to ride), fast because red. But nearly $30k? I dont understand. Also there are others that are like $15k as well?

Does anyone know?

lied to the wife on what it's worth, now stuck with that lie, or doesn't want to sell it but has looked the wife in the eye and said it's for sale, or he's a dreamer.....

[Gremlin]

your.... link... opens... a... page... of... bikes... which... bike... on... that... page... are... you... refering... TOO? FFS
You'll see a red banner at the top, because the listing has expired. TM then shows you a list of similar bikes.
If the listing is still valid, then you should go straight to it.

[SaferRides]

Don't know how many YZF750SP they made but no bugger over here knew what they were anyway so I made a special light weight version with mine as never was going to get collector money and I wanted to ride it. Being a Yamaha I did about 48,000km and of course never had to look inside the engine aside from valve check (no shims required) and neither would the next guy.

Eat yer heart out Dooclattery.Half the fun is all the time you spend working on them. Or so I'm told!

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[SPman]

Don't know how many YZF750SP they made but no bugger over here knew what they were anyway so I made a special light weight version with mine as never was going to get collector money and I wanted to ride it. Being a Yamaha I did about 48,000km and of course never had to look inside the engine aside from valve check (no shims required) and neither would the next guy.

Eat yer heart out Dooclattery.
Mine had over 80,000km on the clock when I moved it on to Frosty .....

[HenryDorsetCase]

This struck me as amusing (and one of these sellers is, shall we say, a tad optimistic). Same money, one is a functionally better motorcycle in every way than the other and comes with a warranty.

[F5 Dave]

Quite. And those 360s were considered turds back when, or at least in the 80s, when I saw them.

[Laava]

I learnt to ride on one of them at 14. I thought it was pretty shit hot!

[F5 Dave]

Hey, my sister's xl185 was pretty shit hot. It might have pulled a wheelie if abused enough. Even with a ramp a 360 would have stuck solemnly to the ground.

[SaferRides]

400's seem to be a thing at the moment. I saw a Speed 400 at Motomail and can understand why.



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[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/5255151296


this does not start with a 3. Nope. Nada. No No No

[onearmedbandit]

At that price he needn't be sad to see it go because it will be in his garage for a very long time.

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/5255151296


this does not start with a 3. Nope. Nada. No No No

even if he was dyslexic and it was meant to be 13 look what that could get you

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/aprilia/listing/5254730296

[HenryDorsetCase]

even if he was dyslexic and it was meant to be 13 look what that could get you

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/aprilia/listing/5254730296

I somehow missed that but now its the only motorbike I want in the world.

[husaberg]

I somehow missed that but now its the only motorbike I want in the world.
treat yourself you deserve it.:msn-wink:

[Laava]

I somehow missed that but now its the only motorbike I want in the world.
You have to buy it now with your big city money and flashy charm. It's the law.

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/5258238398


There were thousands of these things and this one was a complete wreck. Never worth that much.
Oh wait. He's put an 1100 in it. Won't be tuned for it I'll safely bet. Also a bit optimistic on the re-vin process. Will totally need an lvv certificate for an engine over 15% bigger.

[SaferRides]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/5255151296


this does not start with a 3. Nope. Nada. No No NoI wouldn't pay $13,000. Maybe it's the rarity value of the Diablo Rossi tyres?

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[jellywrestler]

https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/1332309324667772/?media_id=0&ref=share_attachment


lot of money for a few links suitable for garden art......

[dangerous]

https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/1332309324667772/?media_id=0&ref=share_attachment


lot of money for a few links suitable for garden art......

yeah... thats fucked...

[F5 Dave]

Strange. Can't see it. What's this book of faces?

[husaberg]

Strange. Can't see it. What's this book of faces?

funny enough only its mother would love it ,its dad would have gone out for a packet of ciggys years ago.....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/nzmotorcycles/posts/9734883439901346/

[F5 Dave]

Posting here. Your chance to own a GSX400!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/5279030178

I used to have the 250 version of this and it was a missile. Can you imagine how fast the 400 is??! Wow. Worth every penny for a real game changer.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Posting here. Your chance to own a GSX400!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/5279030178

I used to have the 250 version of this and it was a missile. Can you imagine how fast the 400 is??! Wow. Worth every penny for a real game changer.

I had one exactly the same as my first "big" roadbike. It was significantly quicker than my mates CB400N. I paid $3000 for mine slightly second hand out of Wellington Motorcycles in late 81.

I religiously look at "Classic and Vintage" but i am not drawn to stuff that I had back in the day... I want stuff that I didnt get beck then. I have never owned a DOHC CB750/900/1100 for example. Or a GPz900

[F5 Dave]

Actually a mate had one. I had to go pick it up when his car broke down. You had to let the clutch out carefully. Turns out the chain was bow tight as the sprocket was more 'bumps' rather than teeth. Scary.

[diesel pig]

Posting here. Your chance to own a GSX400!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/5279030178

I used to have the 250 version of this and it was a missile. Can you imagine how fast the 400 is??! Wow. Worth every penny for a real game changer.

Had do one up for my cousin's as a post classic racer. was NOT impressed. Was told they are just waiting to crack the cylinder head at the most inconvenient time.

[F5 Dave]

. , . just waiting to crack the cylinder head at the most inconvenient time. what? Later rather than sooner? :devil2:

[diesel pig]

what? Later rather than sooner? :devil2:

Like right after one has put a lot of time into getting it running good. Was told the last time he had it out racing it started smoking. I think I know what's about to happen.

[HenryDorsetCase]

If it was good enough for Freddie Spencer it's good enough for you.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5312874166

[Racing Dave]

If it was good enough for Freddie Spencer it's good enough for you.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5312874166

It looks like the auto-bid war has begun! When I looked, the price seemed about right at $22.

[F5 Dave]

Yor behind the timz. Bownd 2 mak fiddy!:yes:

[HenryDorsetCase]

151 as of right now. If it needs a motor rebuild then $500 maybe a grand. Some of the cosmetics arent great - in particular that fuel tank. I had one BITD and it was quite capable. Bit of a big old bus though

[Stylo]

This guy had a good day. Aways optomistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gklZfGD36r0

US$78,000 . Sold https://www.advrider.com/auction-update-new-in-crate-honda-cr500-sells-for-78k/

[Kickaha]

This guy had a good day. Aways optomistic.

US$78,000 . Sold https://www.advrider.com/auction-update-new-in-crate-honda-cr500-sells-for-78k/

Cheap compared to the ATC 250 https://www.thedrive.com/news/holy-grail-1986-honda-atc250r-3-wheeler-still-in-crate-sells-for-200k

[pritch]

Those American prices are high (astronomical?). A couple of articles I've seen of late have said that arse has dropped out of the collector bike market in Britain.

[F5 Dave]

You only need people to feel the pinch economically and discretionary spending drops across the board. Add certain eras 'aging' out. Great investment until it's not.

[Kickaha]

Those American prices are high (astronomical?). A couple of articles I've seen of late have said that arse has dropped out of the collector bike market in Britain.

I know the guys on the BSA forum I belong to have been saying the prices on the stuff they have has been down for some time now compared to a few years back

[dangerous]

HOW MUCH?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5324782903

[Laava]

I think there is a good reason there is only 3 fuzzy photos…

[Kickaha]

HOW MUCH?

I wonder if it has cert for frame mods, maybe if it was a stock standard one in the same condition but even then I think you'd be struggling to get that price

[HenryDorsetCase]

HOW MUCH?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5324782903

nice looking workshop what I can see of it

[Dodgyiti]

This was listed at 20 grand, which even in the market peak of 2018 was too much.
Then there is no interest, and it closes.
And now relisted at 22 grand!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/ducati/listing/5324348155

Maybe this is one of those 'told to sell it, so make it unsaleable ' type of situations?
I like it, but seriously. :weird:

[F5 Dave]

Ooh yes. Ripe for making a replica of something, anything , else.

[Stylo]

This was listed at 20 grand, which even in the market peak of 2018 was too much.
Then there is no interest, and it closes.
And now relisted at 22 grand!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/ducati/listing/5324348155

Maybe this is one of those 'told to sell it, so make it unsaleable ' type of situations?
I like it, but seriously. :weird:

Tidy condition, tiny oil leak, electrict start removed. And it's yellow.

Houston. We have a problem.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/norton/listing/5327879077

Do want.

[F5 Dave]

Oh gawd no. Garners bikes were sheit apparently. Look nice but buy a new one if design fixes and quality control are important to you.

[Dodgyiti]

Tidy condition, tiny oil leak, electrict start removed. And it's yellow.

Houston. We have a problem.

Yeah, I see it as a bit of a project.
And assuming the major things are okay, your still going to spend a few grand.
A GTS at an SS price

[husaberg]

nice looking workshop what I can see of it

I have always wanted one of these. The Brits press used to rave on about how great they were.
please buy and try it out for me.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/moto-morini/listing/5312354644

[jim.cox]

I have always wanted one of these. The Brits press used to rave on about how great they were.
please buy and try it out for me.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/moto-morini/listing/5312354644

Nah Mate,
its the 500 you'll be wanting (and even it was gutless)

[Kickaha]

A GTS at an SS price

I doubt you'd get an SS at that price, not a tidy one anyway

[F5 Dave]

I imagine that you could get some nicely prepared replica bodywork and controls to fit to that if it was at a reasonable price, then you could Walter Mitty owning an SS, or even a Candy red GT. Or Orange. I like Orange.

Should have enough left over to pay the man servant to transport you within suitable distance of where you want to ,'arrive '.

As it is it looks like Ginacarlo Fillapa (spelling, but excellent superbike rider back in 1990 ish). His mother probably loved him.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I thought the 860's were conventional valve operation i.e. valvesprings not desmo.

is that right?

[jellywrestler]

I thought the 860's were conventional valve operation i.e. valvesprings not desmo.

is that right?

yip correct

[F5 Dave]

I thought the 860's were conventional valve operation i.e. valvesprings not desmo.

is that right?
That won't bother Walter in the slightest. Bevel and kick start is close enough.

Jesus, who signed off on that tank/sidecover arrangement?

Give it the low rent cafe racer, no sidecover, cx500 tank and brown seat cover. It would look terrible,. . . but an improvement.

[husaberg]

As it is it looks like Ginacarlo Fillapa (spelling, but excellent superbike rider back in 1990 ish). His mother probably loved him.

Win or die and massive wheelies either way.
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I cant remember exactly how it went but there was a story of him falling of a bike in the the Euro MX series where he crashed off and ran into his team mate and he was that angry that he took off on his team mates bike by mistake, and rode like a demon got back to second of something only to be black-flagged for not having his own bike.
Every thing I have seen suggests massive wheelies in shallow sumped pre teslaretta dukes is not a good long term strategy but the bikes he used used have the engines changed each session.

I read something the other day about how the Cagiva owner paid him a pension after he had a serious injury on the 916.

[pritch]

I read something the other day about how the Cagiva owner paid him a pension after he had a serious injury on the 916.

It may have been Ducati who provided a pension although the company was perpetually broke back then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giancarlo_Falappa

[F5 Dave]

Hey look. I got some of the letters of his name in the right places.
He was pretty cool though.

[jellywrestler]

but the bikes he used used have the engines changed each session.


each session? that's not right, you wouldn't want to start a race with an untried motor

[husaberg]

each session? that's not right, you wouldn't want to start a race with an untried motor
legend is They were bench ran in, then dynoed and they used something like 4-5 engines a meeting for each rider.
from everything I read The mechanics never touched them other than to put them in. No gear ratio changes were needed either.
This was the pretty widely spoken of in roche polen foggy era.
They were then crated up and went back to the factory. it was written down somewhere how many engine Roche or pollen used in a season somewhere. I have posted the number before.

The similar era GP bikes were far less labour intensive.
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if you read the second attachment in the second column you will see it was only 87 when they got rid of the push starts on freshly rebuilt engines

[F5 Dave]

I was flag Marshalling when Roche exploded his in front of us (and then continued to the pit leaving a snail trail), so yeah I believe that they were quite fragile. Many crankcase itteraions followed. Bear in mind where the original design came from.

RC30s were reputedly too.

[husaberg]

I was flag Marshalling when Roche exploded his in front of us (and then continued to the pit leaving a snail trail), so yeah I believe that they were quite fragile. Many crankcase itteraions followed. Bear in mind where the original design came from.

RC30s were reputedly too.

endlessly watching that meeting is the main reason I have a 851sp2 (888) they were out to about 918cc 95.6mm or something on max bore at that stage.
My current boss got to ride roches bike back to the pits when he fell off in practice. Before he blew it up in the race He was reving the nuts off it.
Its also why my 851 race bike is having 916 cases (like everyone else does)

[jellywrestler]

I was flag Marshalling when Roche exploded his in front of us (and then continued to the pit leaving a snail trail), so yeah I believe that they were quite fragile. Many crankcase itteraions followed. Bear in mind where the original design came from.

RC30s were reputedly too.

if you look at the 888 ducatis they have a position for a kick starter, The original design was for a 350 and 500cc belt drive aircooled 2 valve twin. They rehashed and rehashed and rehashed the same bottom end for all those years includint water cooling 888 four valve units. A bit like Triumph with the 1938 500cc pre unit twin, this too got rehashed to unti then 650 and 750cc then they added a cylinder for the trident, never really starting with a clean sheet of paper.
Even the quadrant was a trident with another cylinder added on.

[jellywrestler]

legend is They were bench ran in, then dynoed and they used something like 4-5 engines a meeting for each rider.
from everything I read The mechanics never touched them other than to put them in. No gear ratio changes were needed either.
This was the pretty widely spoken of in roche polen foggy era.
They were then crated up and went back to the factory. it was written down somewhere how many engine Roche or pollen used in a season somewhere. I have posted the number before.

true they didn't try to fix them when here, but it wasn't a new donk every session

[F5 Dave]

if you look at the 888 ducatis they have a position for a kick starter, The original design was for a 350 and 500cc belt drive aircooled 2 valve twin. They rehashed and rehashed and rehashed the same bottom end for all those years includint water cooling 888 four valve units. A bit like Triumph with the 1938 500cc pre unit twin, this too got rehashed to unti then 650 and 750cc then they added a cylinder for the trident, never really starting with a clean sheet of paper.
Even the quadrant was a trident with another cylinder added on.
Exactly, a 40hp 'panting' (heavily)

[Dodgyiti]

That won't bother Walter in the slightest. Bevel and kick start is close enough.

Jesus, who signed off on that tank/sidecover arrangement?

Give it the low rent cafe racer, no sidecover, cx500 tank and brown seat cover. It would look terrible,. . . but an improvement.

It's the chugga motor. Making it into a cafe racer style would just be making it uncomfortable, it would still be a chugga.

[F5 Dave]

S'alright, looks only count. Wouldn't be ridden far.

[husaberg]

true they didn't try to fix them when here, but it wasn't a new donk every session
While I am sure they might have recycled some parts, the life expectancy of an early 851 crankcase bored to full oversize and having its nuts revved off is far less than 300 km. Lots of early engines never even lasted a race. I know at least some Corse cases were sandcast; they went back to this again with later R engines.
This does not in itself not make them stronger ,but is cheaper method of making heavier designs and faster changers.

Later 888 models (1990 SP2) and onward are stronger but still not strong enough. The 916 is better, and the 996 is better again. Later deep sumps are better still. From memory, Cathcart was at times using one case per meeting on the tricolor kit bike, which is why it was almost brand new when he sold it. As even with his special relationship with the factory he could get all the cases he needed.


Every iteration was ever so slightly different, according to Rankin, with webbing and changes as the factory tried to make them work within the confines of the limitations of the molds and tooling they had. Also, the design, although better than the non-Mille bevels, still resembles a significant compromise, as it has outer roller bearings under preload, which places loads on the case. The Supermono had plain bearings all around as an attempt to show what could be done with the next engine; Bordi had hoped to make the 916 like this, but they couldn't afford the new tooling. The rollers also limit the material and space they have to add material compared to plain main bearings. Remember the ducks have the two small outer outrigger bearings as well to stop the crankflap. if you look at the Ducati or even a old pommy parallel twin you can see why they need outrigger bearings.



Two years ago, Superbike Ducatis regularly broke the main bearings out of their cases, making one-race-percase the rule if 11,000 rpm was used often. The cases were later reinforced.
actory Ducatis employ relatively heavy, Austrian-made Pankl con> rods in steel. There have been occasional failures of the very heavily loaded rod bolts, for the Austrians don’t yet make use of the multi-phase steels pioneered by the U.S. firm SPS. Multi-phase steels not only have extremely high tensile strengths, but they also have high elongation before failure-they stretch before they break. This means it takes a lot of extra energy to break them. Eraldo Ferracci uses American-made steel Carrillo rods and bolts in the engines he builds for Doug Polen, and has never had a rod or a bolt fail-even in cases of piston break-up.

Kevin Cameron Daytona 1992

COntrast this with Slight on the works RC45

People think in a factory team you just bolt stuff in and out but we didn’t. Everything had a life. We didn’t just bolt engines in and out. You might pull down an engine and even re-use the same rods and pistons, just put new rings and valves in. We never used a whole new engine all at once. It had an optimum running time and was changed accordingly. It amazed me. I used to think well, you’ve got the engine apart, you might as well use new parts in it. There was no rule against it. But they didn’t. They were like, well, it’s run in now, might as well keep using it. Leave it alone. But because we were using a different gearbox every weekend, and that meant the cases had to be split, the engine was apart all the time. You could’ve put anything in it you wanted to.



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While it's true the crankcase design goes back to the pantah. The gearbox centers were moved after the first pre 851 748ie as the 748 had to have a rather weak 6 speed to fit in the extra ratios I think they keep these centers and widths with some later bikes, Maybe the 350/400 six speeds. (edit seems to be 600/750's these were reused in the 800 series too according to BradB)I have never questioned why, but I know The belt 750 cases at least up to the mid 90's don't fit the std 900/851/916 6 speed. (edit you can used the 6 speed from the 696/796/800.in the 600/750 5 speed cases)
looking into it The gearbox it seems was moved for to reasons the swing of the crank being one.

This kind of reuse old shit designs is not restricted to old pommy twins and shitty Ducati's have a look at almost any MF tractor up to the 1980 an you can see TEA ferguson DNA.
Not to mention the venerable VW, 350 chev 6 cylinder and 308 Holden etc etc.
The Desmoquattro engine itself, with the valve spacing originally designed as a 748ie, (which evolved to the 851 that won the Daytona Bott around 86?87?) designed by bordi and migoni (sp)
places the valves too close together which limits the valve size able to be used when used in a bigger bore engine, leading to the engines having to use almost two-valve timing. Plus, greater revs are needed to make enough power. It is said that later 996 works bikes had wider-spaced valves and special rockers, but I have never seen photographic proof.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=356216&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1748043361

My SP2 has the AA spec cams the are rather too much for the road even for a lot of tracks. Unless you are a works class rider. You can spend $$$$ chasing that last few HP.

If you have a look at the 748SPS you can see why the top ends were so short lasting

[F5 Dave]

My information is heresay, ((heresy says correction) but came from Chris who used to work for Dallas) so same same

[Laava]

My information is heresay, ((heresy says correction) but came from Chris who used to work for Dallas) so same same
Hearsay is gossip, heresy used to carry the death penalty.

[F5 Dave]

Sorry autocorrect got me twice!

[pete376403]

The Duke of Wellington story mentions crankcase issues and how every set they got from the factory seemed to be different in some way

https://www.classicracer.com/dukes-wellington/

[husaberg]

The Duke of Wellington story mentions crankcase issues and how every set they got from the factory seemed to be different in some way

https://www.classicracer.com/dukes-wellington/

One of jelly's bikes is pictured in that article...:msn-wink:
There was one article only about fast-n-fragile writen years before for streetbike mag.
He's also mentioned previously he was one of those that cajoled Dallas into putting the speedway headed version back together.

That said I never picked up they deleted the flywheel and used the cover as a form of Brace??)
This makes sense now as F&F ran a ignition trigger on the clutch hub and a 900SS ignition this is possible as early Ducatis have a 2:1 primary later ones are 1.8:1

They removed the alternator, cut off the end of the crankshaft and made a replacement outer cover-plate to strengthen the most stressed side of the crankcases.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/5334768365

not optimistic. I need this, right?

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/5334768365

not optimistic. I need this, right?
It's Greg's old bike

[Kickaha]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/5334768365

not optimistic. I need this, right?

You do, if I had money I'd already be bidding on it

I can remember him coming into work with it in the back of a CF Bedford van back in the day

[dangerous]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/5334768365

not optimistic. I need this, right?

KBer Grumph... seen the bike at the track last weekend, i duno what class it go in but hey...

[timg]

KBer Grumph... seen the bike at the track last weekend, i duno what class it go in but hey...
Pre ‘89 F3

[husaberg]

This is the thread about Greg refreshing the Bike.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/185748-A-Revival-Mission

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/royal-enfield/listing/5344640575


I love this. I dont think it is optimistic per se but he might be an optimist trying to find the other person in the country who thinks "dang, cool, I need to own that please take my $20k. I followed along on The Kneeslider (remember that site?) when the indian dude was building RE twins and I really liked the concept and the engineering was very interesting. (along with Allen Millyard, and the various home-brewed V-8's etc).

Since this is one of the only actual motorbike related threads on the site any more the thread title is a bit of a misnomer - it was started to mock people like Mr H2A with his $40k pile of shit (back in the day it was $16k and it was too too dear then). Anyway, should I start a "this is cool/interesting/fun/would like to ride" thread?

[F5 Dave]

I think there was one, but start one, should be fun.

That seat would have to go though.
52bhp would fair rip your arms outta their sockets.:shit:

[dangerous]

sorry no MC content... but WTF, gota be a piss take.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/jaguar/other/listing/5346657701

[Blackbird]

sorry no MC content... but WTF, gota be a piss take.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/jaguar/other/listing/5346657701

Most likely, but you never know! Some people in our classic car club pay ridiculous sums for something original, especially if they're into the concours side of classics. There's a restored XK120 at Waimak Cars going for $190,000 at present. Paying $20k if there are salvageable original parts might be small beer for a well-heeled collector. You want to see the state of some of the classics and classic car parts coming across the wharf at Mt Maunganui from the US. Some of them are appalling, albeit not as bad as this one.

[jellywrestler]

Most likely, but you never know! Some people in our classic car club pay ridiculous sums for something original, especially if they're into the concours side of classics. There's a restored XK120 at Waimak Cars going for $190,000 at present. Paying $20k if there are salvageable original parts might be small beer for a well-heeled collector. You want to see the state of some of the classics and classic car parts coming across the wharf at Mt Maunganui from the US. Some of them are appalling, albeit not as bad as this one.

or valid numbers

[F5 Dave]

Someone already got in with 'It'll Buff out.' Geez some people are so unoriginal. I'd already thought of that before, or very very shortly after reading that, so he was clearly copying me. :argue:

[pritch]

The questions were amusing. A good start to the day. Now to depress myself by reading what happened in the world overnight.

[neels]

or valid numbers
Probably that, worth 20k for a traceable identity, you can build the rest around it.

[pritch]

If you can be bothered wading past the many ads here's a brief Antiques Roadshow clip of an original Norton Manx frame jig and associated bits valued at thirty to fifty thousand quid. The jig was found in a pile of pig shit which is somewhat of a comment on the demise of he British bike industry.


https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/2060057/BBC-antiques-roadshow-motorcycle-tool-manure-huge-sum?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawKpvlhleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETEzcXliZ HJiNlFVRXJaaXpiAR4RwUNP0mRhzH2l25LVxbK4tRaRBFBuG99 xrQNjjqJtCGodPOJO2poLhkp3mw_aem_7o5lY_lDiDD5XrBoOS WGJQ#Echobox=1748203375

[husaberg]

If you can be bothered wading past the many ads here's a brief Antiques Roadshow clip of an original Norton Manx frame jig and associated bits valued at thirty to fifty thousand quid. The jig was found in a pile of pig shit which is somewhat of a comment on the demise of he British bike industry.


https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/2060057/BBC-antiques-roadshow-motorcycle-tool-manure-huge-sum?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawKpvlhleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETEzcXliZ HJiNlFVRXJaaXpiAR4RwUNP0mRhzH2l25LVxbK4tRaRBFBuG99 xrQNjjqJtCGodPOJO2poLhkp3mw_aem_7o5lY_lDiDD5XrBoOS WGJQ#Echobox=1748203375
Even more damming is according to the renyolds guy Ken Sprayson .All Norton featherbeds were made at renyolds as Norton never had the facilities to weld frames.

No idea of where the manx ones were made but I guess they would have brazing facilities...

okay edit

All Featherbed frames from Jan. 1951 to 1970 were made at Reynolds Tube Co. in two basic versions, Manx & road, the only alteration to the Manx being the shortening & welding on of the rear subframe in '53/'54. They were made in 531 tubing of 1 /1/4" & 3/4" both 16 gauge & bronze welded. Frames for Inters were as Manx but made from A grade mild steel, & had a flat on the top tube to clear the taller engine.The road frames were made from B grade mild steel tube but in 14 gauge, all arc welded, & had a reduction in bend radius under the seat tube to give more room for road equipment. The only differences being alterations to mounting points for various engines.
All frames had a headstock angle of 64 deg./26 deg. as this was never changed.
Note there was bolt on subframes and slimline wideline version each frame had over 40Ft of tubing. 10Ft of bronze welding wire.
The original works frames were made by the Norton works were not well equipped so the sif-bronze welding was undertaken by the McCandless brothers who produced the eight frames for the racing team by hand.

On the wiki page I found this you have to love Easter eggs.
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[pritch]

No idea of where the manx ones were made but I guess they would have brazing facilities...



That AR clip was filmed in Belfast and the McCandless brothers were from there. According to Wikipedia the first eight Norton Manx frames were built by the brothers so it's possible/likely the jig and associated items are their original tooling.

[husaberg]

That AR clip was filmed in Belfast and the McCandless brothers were from there. According to Wikipedia the first eight Norton Manx frames were built by the brothers so it's possible/likely the jig and associated items are their original tooling.


I have a Sprayson article somewhere as well as one of the mccadless bross they made a few prototype frames for Norton one for a four which I think had a car engine and one with a monocoque subframe.
As it would have been a fabrication jig, Renyolds would have made there own production jigs.
But you can see why the pom's failed when the cream of the crop don't the brazing facilities.
I have a feeling they were sidecar racers or owned a garage?

much like BSA not racing the MC1 and they needed to guarantee to management that it would win its first race
Or Enfield? not being able to buy a Dyno unless it was made by a company under the same ownership

look at this type second page I looked at
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Interestingly, Norton didn't have the facility to produce the Featherbed frame themselves, nor could Reynolds (the tubing mf'r), so Rex brought his own jigs over from Ireland, and personally built the Works Norton frames from 1950-53 (that original jig, as it exists today, can be seen in the pic below - what a historic piece of scrap iron!).

https://thevintagent2011.blogspot.com/2008/12/rex-mccandless-and-featherbed-frame.html

[F5 Dave]

They were all old shit pampered by 40hp engines and bakelite tyres.
No mystery, just slightly better than worse shite.
I sound like I've been drinking, but honest.

We had a crew at the dyno, mate of a mate, but one of the bikes they had on, something special. But the frame had a squashed tube at the front and looked agricultural. British stuff of that era was bent gaspipe.

Saw them later in a mag going to Classic IOM.
Pity year or a few before one of the riders got killed there. Him and his Dad were nice guys.

[husaberg]

This belongs in that thread that Henry has not set up yet
Just seen this I never realised he had 4t bikes as well as the TZ's

I haven't seen him on KB for a few years malcy25 was Alister and Kerry was I cant rememeber?

Its a similar price to other similar era 851 SP's I have seen, plus more realistic than a RC30 price appears to be now ,and far rarer. (the OW01)
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5360208430?bof=PT9gvK4v

[dangerous]

This belongs in that thread that Henry has not set up yet
Just seen this I never realised he had 4t bikes as well as the TZ's

I haven't seen him on KB for a few years malcy25 was Alister and Kerry was I cant rememeber?

Its a similar price to other similar era 851 SP's I have seen, plus more realistic than a RC30 price appears to be now and far rarer.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5360208430?bof=PT9gvK4v

the RZ250R hes selling is a minter aswell, that fzr is cool but meh... having said that the RC30 theres 2 in Oz at 100k and one at 110k in rothmans markings... well spose the FZR is way beter bang for buck... that said this is also 40k and a fraction of the bike the FZR is but id prefer it as fucked as the price is. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5341181335

[HenryDorsetCase]

This belongs in that thread that Henry has not set up yet
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I cant think of a title for it (lame, I know)

How about "Cool shit someone should buy me"

[HenryDorsetCase]

This belongs in that thread that Henry has not set up yet
Just seen this I never realised he had 4t bikes as well as the TZ's

I haven't seen him on KB for a few years malcy25 was Alister and Kerry was I cant rememeber?

Its a similar price to other similar era 851 SP's I have seen, plus more realistic than a RC30 price appears to be now and far rarer.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5360208430?bof=PT9gvK4v

there were a lot less OW01's than RC30s made as well. according to Gooooooogle 500 Yamaha vs 5000 Honda

[husaberg]

there were a lot less OW01's than RC30s made as well. according to Gooooooogle 500 Yamaha vs 5000 Honda
I kind of thought i had said that?
I hope to have my 851SP2 (1990)on the road for summer 2027 (380 made).. I posted a while back that Honda had made more RC30 than all of the Ducato 851 888's stradas and all. So its kind of perverse that a RC30's are then worth more? Same as the OW01's Should be on par or worth more than a RC30.


that said I am surprised its only 500 especially has Aussie got 26 and the UK 150 odd?
that said off google

https://www.cyclenews.com/2023/04/article/archives-column-1989-yamaha-ow01/

guss as the OW01 never won a championship unlike the RC30 and 851?


.When launched in 1989, the Honda and Yam were poles apart price-wise, with the Yam a whopping £12,749 and the RC30 £8499. By 1991 the Honda cost £11,337 and the Yamaha a princely £14,816. A lot of the price differential was made up in the race kits. As standard the Yam had more trick bits on it, so the race kit cost around £2500 compared to £8500 for the Honda


Despite only 500 OW01s being made between 1989 and the end of 1992, Pete reckons he’s had ‘around 50’ of this total. And of that 500, only 140 or so were imported into the UK.


I cant think of a title for it (lame, I know)

How about "Cool shit someone should buy me"

A most excellent tittle.

[dangerous]

guss as the OW01 never won a championship unlike the RC30 and there Id say ya have it in one

[malcy25]

Yeah, the OW is mine. It's parked next to my TZ750 and TZ350!

I don' have an RZ250R for sale DD!

The OW01 is cooler than RC30's - they're the thinking mans bike not the "me too"buyers bike :rolleyes:

Google is wrong about how many built. the 500 quoted was year one for Homologation. They built more in 90, 91 and 92. I think about 2000 or so. Most have been rolled bowled and arseholed. I'd estimate 2000.

There's multiple different yamaha Model codes depends on country , germany, UK, Swiss even( had a rectangular single head light, eek!, as did the 916!) , JDM.

I think they only made about 500 RC45's .

The Rc30's are very "Honda" the Yamaha is quite raw in comparison. I go a bone for one after Scott Buckley passed me at Ruapuna in jan 93 laying rubber and then popping and banging like a bastard on the over run into the next left. I was on my RS125 Honda on the open practice before the GP meeting. He'd bought the BP bike that Chris Haldane had broyght back from the US.

[malcy25]

and there Id say ya have it in one
Ducati got their shit together and spoiled the party in that respect. I think the Yam proved to be a better bike in WSBK through 90-92 than the Honda. Honda riders were moaning from about 1990 about lack of speed .

V&H got over 150hp from their OW's at the end. The story goes that they blew a rod out the front of the cases on the dyno. RaNg Yamaha with a" WTF , those are Ti rods". Yamaha said "how many HP?" V&H said " >150hp". Yamaha said "we only designed for 150 - never thought anyone would get near that!"

[husaberg]

Ducati got their shit together and spoiled the party in that respect. I think the Yam proved to be a better bike in WSBK through 90-92 than the Honda. Honda riders were moaning from about 1990 about lack of speed .

V&H got over 150hp from their OW's at the end. The story goes that they blew a rod out the front of the cases on the dyno. RaNg Yamaha with a" WTF , those are Ti rods". Yamaha said "how many HP?" V&H said " >150hp". Yamaha said "we only designed for 150 - never thought anyone would get near that!"


Honda only would have had only one if Ducati had have turned up to NZ and Tadozzi on the yam fz powered Bimotas had have not fallen off in the rain here the same year.89?
If Yamaha had of added the flat slides I think they would have been competitive longer.
Greg always said you could make a Yam 5 valve fast or accelerate but not both. iI you had a high comp it spoiled the combustion shape t never rev'ed as the shape need too much advance.Awesome in std trim on the road though.p

Pretty sure Doohan embarrassed everyone on one at Aussie just berore HRC picked him up. Gobert and corserwas able to win/nearly win a championship on RC30 just before the RC45 arrived against t well supported Ducatii Aussie team (Fraser's) but that RC30 was very special and not maybe 100% legal. (the Same as Gobert)

funniest fact I can think of about OW01's is Tony Rees has been around now that long he was racing them new....

[SaferRides]

I cant think of a title for it (lame, I know)

How about "Cool shit someone should buy me"Interesting discussion, definitely needs its own thread.

Sent from my SM-S938B using Tapatalk

[malcy25]

Honda only would have had only one if Ducati had have turned up to NZ and Tadozzi on the yam fz powered Bimotas had have not fallen off in the rain here the same year.89?
If Yamaha had of added the flat slides I think they would have been competitive longer.
Greg always said you could make a Yam 5 valve fast or accelerate but not both. iI you had a high comp it spoiled the combustion shape t never rev'ed as the shape need too much advance.Awesome in std trim on the road though.p

Pretty sure Doohan embarrassed everyone on one at Aussie just berore HRC picked him up. Gobert and corserwas able to win/nearly win a championship on RC30 just before the RC45 arrived against t well supported Ducatii Aussie team (Fraser's) but that RC30 was very special and not maybe 100% legal. (the Same as Gobert)

funniest fact I can think of about OW01's is Tony Rees has been around now that long he was racing them new....

Mick never raced an OW. They didn’t arrive until after he left to Honda, but Scott did later on. Mick destroyed everyone on the old FZR.

The Aussie last hurrah of the Rc30 was the Winfield bikes and they were seriously trick, lot of work.

Yeah, Tony and I have talked a bit about the OW’s. Told me earlier this year about getting his. Raced it pretty well much with not a lot of work at all.

The UK in the early 90s I found out a while back to compete with the ducatis , a lot of the four cylinder bikes like the OW and ZXR were actually more like 840cc! Gentlemen’s agreement they wouldn’t protest each other🤣

Stock carbs are the same basically as the FZR1000 and later the TRX850 actually. I can’t remember whether the last OWs had FCRs or just allowed to use. A mate has one with them.

‘Twas 88 at Manfeild that a Bimota was laying on its side at splash on the warm up lap of the last race. I got a photo just after and that was the only year I made it there.

[F5 Dave]

I cant think of a title for it (lame, I know)

How about "Cool shit someone should buy me"

Doo eet.

:first:

[F5 Dave]

I had an SP YZF, the much cheaper in between bike. That has flatslides. Won BSB.
Did always want an R7 though.

[husaberg]

Mick never raced an OW. They didnÂ’t arrive until after he left to Honda, but Scott did later on. Mick destroyed everyone on the old FZR.

oh a plain FZR I never knew that? he was racing a YZf750 ie works F1 bike in Japan, So I assumed it was an OW01. everyday is a school day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=903&v=CnIDVyVqFpw&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com %2Fsearch%3Fq%3D%2B1988World%2BSuperbike%2BChampio nship.%2BSugo%252C%26sca_esv%3D0997bde18d0af1f5%26 rlz%3D1CAGTJZ_enNZ1123%26sxsrf%3DA&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3LDM2ODQyLDI4NjY2

Aussie last hurrah of the Rc30 was the Winfield bikes and they were seriously trick, lot of work.
yeah full engines RVF F1 spec straight from Japan but with Std type carbs.
looking on Google Corser was ran a RC30 for a part of the following year as well.
Lots of protests over airbox etc which is hilarious as the Ducati Corse airbox is 100% different then the SP airbox.


, Tony and I have talked a bit about the OWÂ’s. Told me earlier this year about getting his. Raced it pretty well much with not a lot of work at all.

The UK in the early 90s I found out a while back to compete with the ducatis , a lot of the four cylinder bikes like the OW and ZXR were actually more like 840cc! Gentlemen’s agreement they wouldn’t protest each other🤣

Stock carbs are the same basically as the FZR1000 and later the TRX850 actually. I canÂ’t remember whether the last OWs had FCRs or just allowed to use. A mate has one with them.
I remember there used to be a lot of arguments over carb stuff. and over fork eligibility.

plenty of honda converted race bikes like hawk bros used to use RC kit carb internals as well I do recall the kawak had FCR
I think there was a later on rule that the carbs had to cost under X $ as one crowd was offering 12k kit carbs?
Kawasaki's def had flat slides later on, as did I think the later GSXR?



‘Twas 88 at Manfeild that a Bimota was laying on its side at splash on the warm up lap of the last race. I got a photo just after and that was the only year I made it there.

Dave was there in 1990.. (just beating you Dave)

[jellywrestler]

‘Twas 88 at Manfeild that a Bimota was laying on its side at splash on the warm up lap of the last race. I got a photo just after and that was the only year I made it there.

that crash wasn't an accident the word was that bimota couldn't actually supply the paperwork with valid engine and frame numbers for the 200 manufactured bikes they were supposed to produce, and if they finished the race and scored points the protest would have been lodged.

[F5 Dave]

Hey these are actually rare.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5376710089

A lass i knew bought one new and I had a ride on it. It was pretty miserable.

And then they and the 550s got somewhat of a reputation as possibly the least reliable Yamaha.

Thought they had all died and gone to petroleum hell a long time ago.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hey these are actually rare.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5376710089

A lass i knew bought one new and I had a ride on it. It was pretty miserable.

And then they and the 550s got somewhat of a reputation as possibly the least reliable Yamaha.

Thought they had all died and gone to petroleum hell a long time ago.

Is that an XJ650 turbo in the background?

[pritch]

Hey these are actually rare.



For good reason apparently. This'll bring back memories Dave...

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/44919-Yamaha-XZ400-opinions

[F5 Dave]

Oh golly. Forgot about that.

[F5 Dave]

Is that an XJ650 turbo in the background?
Yes I think you are right. What a wounder (to channel Drew).

Ooh, ohh. We should ask him about it and then ask if he's related to Plumley Walker?

[Kickaha]

Is that an XJ650 turbo in the background?

It could be, there was an XJ750 version which also looked like that

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yes I think you are right. What a wounder (to channel Drew).

Ooh, ohh. We should ask him about it and then ask if he's related to Plumley Walker?


His last words as he went over the falls were "How much does this cost?" I've forgotten the chicks name (Renee something?) but the phrase "teenage dominatrix"..? That'll keep me warm at night in the rest home....

[Laava]

I said hook my balls, not Huka Falls!

[F5 Dave]

Yes the old joke "I can't afford thiiiis" came to mind.

Police trope had jealous boyfriend beating him to death first, but apparently a myth.
Shouldn't kink shame I guess. But asphyxiation is no joke.
Why oh why did they think it was going to make him disappear? Surely they could have used the time spent driving to mid island just digging a deep hole in a deserted forest and raking pine needles back?

[pritch]

"I sad kick be in the balls not kick me in the falls."

[Katman]

While we're on the subject, has anyone got any jokes they'd like to share about Grace Millane?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Here's a heart warming story from Women's Day about hos Renee Chignall turned her life around after the whole Peter Plumley-Walker thing.

I dont want to kink shame anyone but come on! He was a cricket umpire!

https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/lifestyle/career/renee-chignell-peter-plumley-walker-scandal-38444/


Anyway, it's your good news story for the day. You're welcome

[F5 Dave]

It woke sleepy conservative nz up to that particular fringe.

Not a good day to be a cricket umpire, but confirmed a suspicion many probably had about that endeavour.

But with such a specific name, his whole family would have had to ejecting and deedpoll to Smith.

[F5 Dave]

Here's a heart warming story from Women's Day about hos Renee Chignall turned her life around after the whole Peter Plumley-Walker thing.

I dont want to kink shame anyone but come on! He was a cricket umpire!

https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/lifestyle/career/renee-chignell-peter-plumley-walker-scandal-38444/


Anyway, it's your good news story for the day. You're welcome

Ohh you're right thanks for posting.

Never saw the documentary, but i don't see much TV proper.


And the article continues:
If one of your 2025 resolutions is clearing out your beauty cupboard. . .

Well, words to live by i guess. :blink:

[F5 Dave]

It's bike bingo time again.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5396276881

Silly seat, pipe wrap. Shitty model. Generally in a state of fucked. Passes wof easily it sez. . . But obviously can't.

Serious offers only.
Seriously?

It's a $300 bike. - Pay me $300 and I'll come around to set it on fire in your driveway if there's nothing close that could catch fire.
You'll have to provide matches and fuel mind.

[dangerous]

It's bike bingo time again.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5396276881

Silly seat, pipe wrap. Shitty model. Generally in a state of fucked. Passes wof easily it sez. . . But obviously can't.

Serious offers only.
Seriously?

It's a $300 bike. - Pay me $300 and I'll come around to set it on fire in your driveway if there's nothing close that could catch fire.
You'll have to provide matches and fuel mind.

ohhhhhhhhhh... dear

[Laava]

That is a stretch alright! $3500!

[dangerous]

fuck sakes... hes back to putting the missus in the photos...and she still hasent learnt to SMILE...
and Dave... how cool man, 2 bikes for 1 deal

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/5401627150?bof=XIJAt52d

[F5 Dave]

Yeah she hasn't aged well, why does she still put up with this,? assuming it's the same lass.

And yeah. Who has $59k and want two bikes¿?. Jesuz!

[husaberg]

fuck sakes... hes back to putting the missus in the photos...and she still hasent learnt to SMILE...
and Dave... how cool man, 2 bikes for 1 deal

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/5401627150?bof=XIJAt52d


Yeah she hasn't aged well, why does she still put up with this,? assuming it's the same lass.

And yeah. Who has $59k and want two bikes¿?. Jesuz!


IMO The Mv would be an less tough wank:lol:

[dangerous]

IMO The Mv would be an less tough wank:lol:

Im hving a wank right now... well I would ride but its fucked

[husaberg]

Im hving a wank right now... well I would ride but its fucked

Funny you should say that I was at a Temuka the other weeekend. Dave had a collection of guzzis and also had possibly the worlds only decent looking restyled plastic maggot and NV400.

[dangerous]

Funny you should say that I was at a Temuka the other weeekend. Dave had a collection of guzzis and also had possibly the worlds only decent looking restyled plastic maggot and NV400.

Dave S aka eurodave... Not seen that old loot for years, stoked he's still about

[husaberg]

Dave S aka eurodave... Not seen that old loot for years, stoked he's still about

Yip. he's pretty easy to find and still making all sorts of stuff has heaps of moulds for all sorts of cool random and eclectic stuff.
Hes working from home and down to 2 days a week at a day job.

[Katman]

IMO The Mv would be an less tough wank:lol:

Your mum must be so proud of you.

[Kickaha]

Dave had a collection of guzzis and also had possibly the worlds only decent looking restyled plastic maggot and NV400.

He's always been a Guzzi guy, was the CX the Trail/ADV bike ?

[husaberg]

He's always been a Guzzi guy, was the CX the Trail/ADV bike ?

i can't exactly remember there might have been more than one maggot ,it was more a did at dangerous and CX's but there were so many bike in a two bay shed.
I would say cross between a flat tracker and a Secca II or a Yamaha Raiden.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSAvHCuFCTRmpHOoqbIvKiCAHt2NphvT 3mswQ&shttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbF7xqqPOfXhSEmHooW5QsnOVIuwID0 43jew&s
The NV or VT was all flat track but there were other bike flat track styled as well.

The 900SS "replica" was the coolest.
The Morgan guzzi engine was pretty amazing.