Optimistic sellers

[jellywrestler]

Probably is in The USA they were not officially imported after all.


As cool as RG500s are I don't think they rate as high in collectability as an RC30 or OW01 would
Plus the NR750 would be closer to the top of the jap collectors pole for bikes other then works or strictly racing bikes, along with the CBX1000 and Honda CX turbo. the RG is near unique being one of just two big bore four cylinder twostrokes, rc30's and OW01's are just another version of a common bike....

[HenryDorsetCase]

the RG is near unique being one of just two big bore four cylinder twostrokes, rc30's and OW01's are just another version of a common bike....

Ow01 MAYBE, but definitely not RC30 or RC45

[F5 Dave]

Ahh Cmon. Pretty sure the RC kit manual listed optional heated grips and Givi mounts.

(Lights touch paper and stands well back. . . )

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ahh Cmon. Pretty sure the RC kit manual listed optional heated grips and Givi mounts.

(Lights touch paper and stands well back. . . )

Yes, and the RC51 is basically the same as the Firestorm.

[husaberg]

the RG is near unique being one of just two big bore four cylinder twostrokes, rc30's and OW01's are just another version of a common bike....
Dont get me wrong i would much rather a RG500 or a RZ500 myself, but i would hazard a guess that the production numbers on both are much larger than the RC30's and OW01s were.
RC30 3 years production 3000 bikes.
The OW01 was 500 over two years

While the RG500 talies like this
.............85.......86......87....Total

<tbody>
RG500
7340
1412
532
9284


RG400
5002
863
348
6213

</tbody>

The OW01 was a pretty simple homolgation special of a STD, bike the RC30 was a complete redesign. Which is why i would value it higher than the Yam, plus the two WSB titles. As far as i am aware the RC30 were also not assembled on a normal production line.
But the market will decide in the future what is worthwhile.

[Grumph]

Ahh Cmon. Pretty sure the RC kit manual listed optional heated grips and Givi mounts.

(Lights touch paper and stands well back. . . )

Almost...the std RC30 is actually a pretty good steriliser - of the rider. Anything over 10 minutes ride and you're moving round on the seat to avoid burns on an area you don't want burned...

The OW might be a homologtion special - but it is pretty special inside. Not a lot interchanges between the FZ and the OW.
The sales pitch of the RC being built in the toolroom at Honda is crap - or the toolroom is. Non parallel bores, badly finished cranks are just some of the problems. The Ti rods should be lifed too if you want to use one...and the "C" springs in the 2 piece cam drive gears break and are damm near impossible to replace.
I'd have either an RC or an OW - the problems can be sorted and they're nice bikes to ride once it's done.

[Grumph]

four grand for the RGV250/RG500 hybrid provided it runs. Cash money!

If I have to sort his estate, I'll bear you in mind. He doesn't need the money....

[husaberg]

Almost...the std RC30 is actually a pretty good steriliser - of the rider. Anything over 10 minutes ride and you're moving round on the seat to avoid burns on an area you don't want burned...

The OW might be a homologtion special - but it is pretty special inside. Not a lot interchanges between the FZ and the OW.
The sales pitch of the RC being built in the toolroom at Honda is crap - or the toolroom is. Non parallel bores, badly finished cranks are just some of the problems. The Ti rods should be lifed too if you want to use one...and the "C" springs in the 2 piece cam drive gears break and are damm near impossible to replace.
I'd have either an RC or an OW - the problems can be sorted and they're nice bikes to ride once it's done.
Both OW and RC had Ti rods didn't they?
I know the OW had 2 ring pistons what about the RC?
I recall someone saying the biggest issue with the RC was it lacked an crank end feed oiling is this true? Because the early ones used to go through a crank in racing in less than 500 miles.
At least with the RC30 they had a separate carrier so you could skim the head. that's impossible on all the road CBR and NC's

[Drew]

At least with the RC30 they had a separate carrier so you could skim the head. that's impossible on all the road CBR and NC's

I've been inside a few CBR motors. Pretty sure there is room to move with head height.

Would take some fucking around to work out how much, but there is quite a bit of lash in the cam gears. Hence the need for the spring loaded doohickey.

[HenryDorsetCase]

.
The sales pitch of the RC being built in the toolroom at Honda is crap - or the toolroom is. Non parallel bores, badly finished cranks are just some of the problems. The Ti rods should be lifed too if you want to use one...and the "C" springs in the 2 piece cam drive gears break and are damm near impossible to replace.


Nooooooooo!

They were built by zen monks whose very movement was like ballet, one at a time, from components hand-hewn and finished to a mirror smoothness, then wrapped in origami wrapping paper only to be unleashed by carefully chosen samurai who were also wealthy, or in service to the great gods, the lords of HRC.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO9YVYg4FyU

[AllanB]

Bugger - I meant to go to Casbolts and perv at the first V4 Ducati that has arrived. Owner picks it up tomorrow apparently.

[Grumph]

Both OW and RC had Ti rods didn't they?
I know the OW had 2 ring pistons what about the RC?
I recall someone saying the biggest issue with the RC was it lacked an crank end feed oiling is this true? Because the early ones used to go through a crank in racing in less than 500 miles.
At least with the RC30 they had a separate carrier so you could skim the head. that's impossible on all the road CBR and NC's

OW rods as sold are steel so the kit rods have to be the same material. RC as sold 3 ring pistons. Kit has 2mm longer rods and matching shorter 2 ring pistons.
The initial short life of the RC's is two things. Poorly finished cranks - same as nearly all the early V4's - the oil holes on the crank have sharp edges.
And the oil level is too close to the crank. Over heating, frothing, all the usual. Later sumps - and the kit one - lower the level and it's a lot better.

For all purposes, the gear driven cam later Hondas which have the cam bearings in one piece with the head can't have anything taken off the head. Yes Drew, it's theoretically possible to close up the gear backlash - but it would amount to about .005in which simply isn't worth doing. And it would probably whine like fuck too.

[malcy25]

Dont get me wrong i would much rather a RG500 or a RZ500 myself, but i would hazard a guess that the production numbers on both are much larger than the RC30's and OW01s were.
RC30 3 years production 3000 bikes.
The OW01 was 500 over two years

While the RG500 talies like this
.............85.......86......87....Total

<tbody>
RG500
7340
1412
532
9284


RG400
5002
863
348
6213

</tbody>

The OW01 was a pretty simple homolgation special of a STD, bike the RC30 was a complete redesign. Which is why i would value it higher than the Yam, plus the two WSB titles. As far as i am aware the RC30 were also not assembled on a normal production line.
But the market will decide in the future what is worthwhile.

Re the OW, yeah, nah. Have had an OW in the garage for 9 years and it is very different beast to the FZ and FZR. The motor may have a lot of external / visual commonality but that's about it really. The OW bears more history to the YZF F1 racer they built around 87/88. The OW01 motor in fact was the basis for a lot of the YZF750SP. Grumph I think said they had steel conrods - not looked inside mine, but pretty sure Ti Valves and Rods factory fitted.

Purchase price of the OW in the UK was 50% MORE than the RC 12500 pounds verses 8000 but the OW race kit was very cheap in comparison as there's was little in it. cams, pistons, ign box, tail pipe. Whereas Honda race kit was monty.

In fact there was a great story on superbikeplanet a few years agoi about Vance and Hines blowing a big hole in the crankcases on the dyno on one when they went past 150hp. They rang the factory and said, what gives, we broke a rod. The factory said "how many HP?", Vance and hines tell them. Factory goes "ahh, san, we only build the rods good for 150hp, there's your problem!"

I also believe there's also a lot on misinformation around the OW01 build numbers. Fact is they are way less than the RC30 which I think are circa 3500. The OW's are more like 2000. They were built 89-92 - 4 years. the last ones had different carbs I think - FCR's or something. Not totally sure, but I think more like 500 per year.

I have the RZ/RDLC/RZV 500 production numbers at home as a result of a formal request to Yamaha. They built more RZV's (alloy frame / domestic market) than anything else....the standard RZ like we had here 84/85 were less.

I've done about 5000km on my OW (almost all at track days) and while I don't have a lot of modern large bike time lately, the chassis is pretty flash to ride.

With regards to Homologation specials, the Ducati's were very much more a version of the road bike Ie 851/888/916 with cams and suspension upgrades more like the R1M and CBR Sp2 Hondas etc of late. The OW and RC are VERY different beasts to to the road based 2nd cousins ( FZ and VFR respectively) and while are just a "4 cylinder jap bike" to some people are very much the real deal specials.

[Grumph]

You may be right about OW rods - I really can't remember. The WSB rules said that any kit rods had to be the same material as what the bike was homologated with.

The early kit valves for the OW stretched like buggery. By the time the WSB circus got to NZ, most of the OW's had stainless aftermarket valves fitted. One local - who shall be nameless - still had kit valves in and was chasing valve clearances every day of the meeting. The pits installed for the WSB round had very nice benchtops of 6 X 4 dressed cedar beams. To get the very thin shims needed for the stretched valves, our man was hammering them into the benchtop and using a disc grinder to thin them...You can imagine what the bench looked like.
Easily fixed - before going home, they pulled the beams off the bench frames and turned them over....

[malcy25]

You may be right about OW rods - I really can't remember. The WSB rules said that any kit rods had to be the same material as what the bike was homologated with.

The early kit valves for the OW stretched like buggery. By the time the WSB circus got to NZ, most of the OW's had stainless aftermarket valves fitted. One local - who shall be nameless - still had kit valves in and was chasing valve clearances every day of the meeting. The pits installed for the WSB round had very nice benchtops of 6 X 4 dressed cedar beams. To get the very thin shims needed for the stretched valves, our man was hammering them into the benchtop and using a disc grinder to thin them...You can imagine what the bench looked like.
Easily fixed - before going home, they pulled the beams off the bench frames and turned them over....

Ouch! Though I did see Kev from Motoextreme in Dunners at PI this yeah "correcting" some Yamaha shims on a belt sander!

My own OW at 14,000 ks had closed up the clearances enough to warrant a change.

[F5 Dave]

Glad they fixed that. My YZF750SP never needed valves adjusted when checked. It was a road bike but the stretching was limited to the throttle cables.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It was a road bike but the stretching was limited to the throttle cables.

Cable. Only one needs be stretched unless you have a problem! :innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah...nah. And which one of you fuckwits built the exhaust?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1600379215.htm?rsqid=a51b1a3634b448968ce954fc452c3 895

And "stupid questions wont be answered and daft comments wont be tolerated." Not sure what'll happen if you make a daft comment but...I'm very tempted to find out.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1599673588.htm?rsqid=a51b1a3634b448968ce954fc452c3 895

[jasonu]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1599673588.htm?rsqid=a51b1a3634b448968ce954fc452c3 895

After looking at all the other rubbish on TM this one looks to be reasonably priced, especially if it is a proper S model.




Hey Malcy how about this one.?
Reasonable or rip off?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Yamaha-TZ750/112930302031?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

[HenryDorsetCase]

After looking at all the other rubbish on TM this one looks to be reasonably priced, especially if it is a proper S model.




Hey Malcy how about this one.?
Reasonable or rip off?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Yamaha-TZ750/112930302031?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

hence my question....

[T.W.R]

And "stupid questions wont be answered and daft comments wont be tolerated." Not sure what'll happen if you make a daft comment but...I'm very tempted to find out.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1599673588.htm?rsqid=a51b1a3634b448968ce954fc452c3 895


After looking at all the other rubbish on TM this one looks to be reasonably priced, especially if it is a proper S model.

You wouldn't want to be asking Russell silly Qs to his face :oi-grr: he's got a firecracker temper lol
HDC has already gone down the numpty track
And it's a real one

[malcy25]

After looking at all the other rubbish on TM this one looks to be reasonably priced, especially if it is a proper S model.




Hey Malcy how about this one.?
Reasonable or rip off?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Yamaha-TZ750/112930302031?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

The bike is known to me a little bit elsewhere - another forum- and seems quite genuine. Is an early bike that has been modded in period, by a well known name. 50k kiwi plus landed costs is possibly not bad. May be a little high though once landed and paid shipping and GST etc. Depends on what you want. It will never be the handler of the later bikes (or mine given it’s not old!). Fairly original spec bikes like that without the monoshock conversion in the uk have been 35-40k pounds sterling. The guy knows what it worth, but I am not sure if he knows a lot about TZ750's. See how high it looks in the front? The stock setting is 25mm of fork protrusion above the top triple clamp.....this is flush.

Any 750 early or late will always be worth the price of admission when you ride one. I’ve been scared every time time I ride one and have ridden 4 now!

They do command big money for an old bike. BUT......bonkers is a good word. They sort of defy the laws of physics the way they go. Craig Ditchburn was clocked at 281km/h in Jan on his at Phillip Island. That's pretty impressive for an early 1970's design and and aero dynamics, plus still only 750cc. The big 4 strokes that did that speed were close on 1300cc and only a couple of them

[malcy25]

You may be right about OW rods - I really can't remember. The WSB rules said that any kit rods had to be the same material as what the bike was homologated with.

The early kit valves for the OW stretched like buggery. By the time the WSB circus got to NZ, most of the OW's had stainless aftermarket valves fitted. One local - who shall be nameless - still had kit valves in and was chasing valve clearances every day of the meeting. The pits installed for the WSB round had very nice benchtops of 6 X 4 dressed cedar beams. To get the very thin shims needed for the stretched valves, our man was hammering them into the benchtop and using a disc grinder to thin them...You can imagine what the bench looked like.
Easily fixed - before going home, they pulled the beams off the bench frames and turned them over....

I remember the RC30 superbikes always seemed quite measured and "perfected"....whereas the OW01's were very "raw". they backfired, snorted and seemed hard out in comparison. Made me want to buy an OW01, especially when Scot Buckley passed me at Ruapuna in open practice before the 1993 GP meeting , laying a black stripe.....

[Drew]

Yea
And "stupid questions wont be answered and daft comments wont be tolerated." Not sure what'll happen if you make a daft comment but...I'm very tempted to find out.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1599673588.htm?rsqid=a51b1a3634b448968ce954fc452c3 895

Dunno what your problem is. That's good buying right there.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Dunno what your problem is. That's good buying right there.

That's because you're fucking thick. Did I say there was a fucking problem with the fucking price? No? That's right. But, (and you know, I've been selling bikes for a while now) if you wanna sell your bike, be nice.

PS: Cool story.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And it's a real one

Bike looks good, and I've always wanted one. But a Blue/White one thanks. And if he's a mate of yours, might pay for you to tell him to lighten up on the add a lil. :innocent:

[HenryDorsetCase]

You wouldn't want to be asking Russell silly Qs to his face :oi-grr: he's got a firecracker temper lol
HDC has already gone down the numpty track
And it's a real one

Honestly I would buy it tomorrow except I am skint having just bought the CB750. The last one of these on tardme looked as tidy as this but was a tarted up E.... not cool.

Wonder if he wants my GS550 and $5 and a bag of chips.

At least he isnt in dreamworld like the man with the $100k XR500 (or whatever outlandish number it ended up at)

[Grumph]

I remember the RC30 superbikes always seemed quite measured and "perfected"....whereas the OW01's were very "raw". they backfired, snorted and seemed hard out in comparison. Made me want to buy an OW01, especially when Scot Buckley passed me at Ruapuna in open practice before the 1993 GP meeting , laying a black stripe.....

I made him put all 6 disc mounting bolts in each side, LOL. For some reason all the OW and most of the TZ owners thought they could leave out half the mounting bolts that season. I passed word along to the other Nat scrutineers to try and stop it.
The OW will sound raw - 52 deg of advance will do that. Mo Haley told me never to use an OW kit ignition box in an FZR sidecar engine. They tried it in the Agip chair and apparently nearly detonated it to a standstill. The FZR1000 has two peaks in the advance curve - 46 and 48 degrees. The OW uses more advance than that...I always thought it was poor turbulence in the 5 valvers at certain RPM made it necessary to be that agressive. The bigger valves and cams in the OW just made the problem worse.

Did you ride at the Wigram meeting between Nat rounds where Tony McMurdo's 600 on nitro embarrassed the 750's ?

[husaberg]

Re the OW, yeah, nah. Have had an OW in the garage for 9 years and it is very different beast to the FZ and FZR. The motor may have a lot of external / visual commonality but that's about it really. The OW bears more history to the YZF F1 racer they built around 87/88. The OW01 motor in fact was the basis for a lot of the YZF750SP. Grumph I think said they had steel conrods - not looked inside mine, but pretty sure Ti Valves and Rods factory fitted.

Purchase price of the OW in the UK was 50% MORE than the RC 12500 pounds verses 8000 but the OW race kit was very cheap in comparison as there's was little in it. cams, pistons, ign box, tail pipe. Whereas Honda race kit was monty.

In fact there was a great story on superbikeplanet a few years agoi about Vance and Hines blowing a big hole in the crankcases on the dyno on one when they went past 150hp. They rang the factory and said, what gives, we broke a rod. The factory said "how many HP?", Vance and hines tell them. Factory goes "ahh, san, we only build the rods good for 150hp, there's your problem!"

I also believe there's also a lot on misinformation around the OW01 build numbers. Fact is they are way less than the RC30 which I think are circa 3500. The OW's are more like 2000. They were built 89-92 - 4 years. the last ones had different carbs I think - FCR's or something. Not totally sure, but I think more like 500 per year.

I have the RZ/RDLC/RZV 500 production numbers at home as a result of a formal request to Yamaha. They built more RZV's (alloy frame / domestic market) than anything else....the standard RZ like we had here 84/85 were less.

I've done about 5000km on my OW (almost all at track days) and while I don't have a lot of modern large bike time lately, the chassis is pretty flash to ride.

With regards to Homologation specials, the Ducati's were very much more a version of the road bike Ie 851/888/916 with cams and suspension upgrades more like the R1M and CBR Sp2 Hondas etc of late. The OW and RC are VERY different beasts to to the road based 2nd cousins ( FZ and VFR respectively) and while are just a "4 cylinder jap bike" to some people are very much the real deal specials.
Neat stuff, So did the OW still have the Poxy small Front axel that Yamaha for some reason had in that era going back to the RD250. ie 15mm.
With the original 851 they built it as a race bike and then turned it into a road bike to be fair to Ducati. the TRi colours had a race kit . but The SP had different gear ratios different injection systems twin injectors as well. different crank.
For the build numbers I just went with what was on the net.

Bike looks good, and I've always wanted one. But a Blue/White one thanks. And if he's a mate of yours, might pay for you to tell him to lighten up on the add a lil. :innocent:
Crasher assuming hes reading this. should have a blue book if they still do those that might give an impartial value of all the RC OW NR CBX RG500 and RZ500s.

[T.W.R]

Bike looks good, and I've always wanted one. But a Blue/White one thanks. And if he's a mate of yours, might pay for you to tell him to lighten up on the add a lil. :innocent:

He isn't a mate by any means just crossed paths & horns a couple of time via his brother. The tone of the ad pretty much reflects him....I could tell you a few stories of his antics but wont air them here....just think winja :msn-wink:


Honestly I would buy it tomorrow except I am skint having just bought the CB750. The last one of these on tardme looked as tidy as this but was a tarted up E.... not cool.

Wonder if he wants my GS550 and $5 and a bag of chips.

At least he isnt in dreamworld like the man with the $100k XR500 (or whatever outlandish number it ended up at)

I saw it and thought the same...any other point in time I would've grabbed it plus a couple of other bikes that a currently on TM but situation dictates otherwise and I've 3 bikes I've got think about moving soon so any more would just make it a logistical nightmare.

I've been watching the Z13 in town and keeping a eye on Classic Zed's electric blue one too but he's wanting way too much

I see that 82 600 Pantah in town hasn't taken long to get a bid placed on it, I'd even consider that if things were further along onpersonal level even if I would look like a gorilla on a tonka toy :laugh:

He's clearing things out as the big lad upstairs is chasing him :msn-wink: just recently got rid of his Mustang etc

Yeah that dropkick with the XR was just waving his dick scouting for hand jobs

[AllanB]

$5K for that Suzuki was good buying I reckon.

I lusted after them when young.

[F5 Dave]

The bike is known to me a little bit elsewhere - another forum- and seems quite genuine. Is an early bike that has been modded in period, by a well known name. 50k kiwi plus landed costs is possibly not bad. May be a little high though once landed and paid shipping and GST etc. Depends on what you want. It will never be the handler of the later bikes (or mine given it’s not old!). Fairly original spec bikes like that without the monoshock conversion in the uk have been 35-40k pounds sterling. The guy knows what it worth, but I am not sure if he knows a lot about TZ750's. See how high it looks in the front? The stock setting is 25mm of fork protrusion above the top triple clamp.....this is flush.

Any 750 early or late will always be worth the price of admission when you ride one. I’ve been scared every time time I ride one and have ridden 4 now!

They do command big money for an old bike. BUT......bonkers is a good word. They sort of defy the laws of physics the way they go. Craig Ditchburn was clocked at 281km/h in Jan on his at Phillip Island. That's pretty impressive for an early 1970's design and and aero dynamics, plus still only 750cc. The big 4 strokes that did that speed were close on 1300cc and only a couple of them
If only. I can but dream:sleep: here I come big teezeed!

[T.W.R]

$5K for that Suzuki was good buying I reckon.

I lusted after them when young.

Well that didn't take long going by the reply to question 3 and what has been added to the auction detail it sold sometime late yesterday arvo :yes:
Not quite as rapid sale as the one a couple of years back down near Winton that lasted a couple of hrs & sub 50 views.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck me. A purple H2! I'd give me left nut for this. Groovy Baby!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1600515732.htm?rsqid=16e062dc242e4c22b9095d7bf2c73 471

[AllanB]

Fuck me. A purple H2! I'd give me left nut for this. Groovy Baby!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1600515732.htm?rsqid=16e062dc242e4c22b9095d7bf2c73 471


That's a fine example.

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's a fine example.

Indeed, and I've always wanted one in purple. Fucking tempted to sell a few to try and get it.

[jasonu]

Fuck me. A purple H2! I'd give me left nut for this. Groovy Baby!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1600515732.htm?rsqid=16e062dc242e4c22b9095d7bf2c73 471

What do you recon it is worth?

[Crasherfromwayback]

What do you recon it is worth?

Like anything mate. Whatever someone is prepared to pay for it. I offered him my works bike in exchange, and I've been offered 20k for that. That's my limit.

[sidecar bob]

Like anything mate. Whatever someone is prepared to pay for it. I offered him my works bike in exchange, and I've been offered 20k for that. That's my limit.

Someone's trying to trade it for some Chinese kitchen utensils. Takes all sorts I guess.

[ellipsis]

...I'd steal the other half of the coin I didn't have to own that...at the, long moment, I don't have the half of it to even contemplate it...silly old man shit though... to be avoided...

[F5 Dave]

I would like to ride that.

And Cameron Diaz. Either is as likely.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I would like to ride that.

And Cameron Diaz. Either is as likely.

I'd let her stick a butternut squash up my butt if it'd get me that H2!

[ellipsis]

I'd let her stick a butternut squash up my butt if it'd get me that H2!


...I'd let her boyfriend or her mother do that for the kwaka...

[Kickaha]

I see that 82 600 Pantah in town hasn't taken long to get a bid placed on it, I'd even consider that if things were further along onpersonal level even if I would look like a gorilla on a tonka toy
Spent a bit of time riding a 600 Pantah, very cool bike, lots of fun, I wouldn't mind another one to play with

[AllanB]

I can't find it but I think the last clean Kawa 750 triple went for about 20k

[T.W.R]

Spent a bit of time riding a 600 Pantah, very cool bike, lots of fun, I wouldn't mind another one to play with

Definitely :yes: One of my old riding buddies had a 500 and after it had a bit of tickling done to it the damn thing was a weapon on a tight twisty road...shitload of fun :2thumbsup the only problem he had was starter motors lol :facepalm: 90% of the time it was Le Mans starts everywhere!

[Laava]

:2thumbsup the only problem he had was starter motors lol :facepalm: 90% of the time it was Le Mans starts everywhere!

Right, the old fragile sprag clutch setup, I remember paying an absolute fortune to get my Darmah back on the road...

[F5 Dave]

Pipe wrap. CB250RS headlight.
$400 chain:nya: sure


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1589573399.htm?rsqid=ffae69f5ece74179bc27d2af793b1 df6

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1596474140.htm?rsqid=ffae69f5ece74179bc27d2af793b1 df6

Everyone had one. . . . Err. . No?

So why have 32 people got this on their watchlist? I don't want to pay 3 grand for a cute but otherwise gutless little shitbox.

[Laava]

Pipe wrap. CB250RS headlight.
$400 chain:nya: sure


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1589573399.htm?rsqid=ffae69f5ece74179bc27d2af793b1 df6

One guy wants to swap his mx5 for it cos he wants a "bucket racer"!

[F5 Dave]

Sheesh. He'd be somewhat disappointed come the first flag drop. And the first corner for that matter.

Ever ridden one of these?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1601562524.htm?rsqid=51b7837eef5547208fc217223198d 9fd

I have, and they feel dreadful. My TT500 was a better road bike. Well, more fun.

How much?.!?

[jasonu]

I'd let her stick a butternut squash up my butt if it'd get me that H2!

But would you eat Paula Bennets vag for it?

[Drew]

Pipe wrap. CB250RS headlight.
$400 chain:nya: sure


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1589573399.htm?rsqid=ffae69f5ece74179bc27d2af793b1 df6
I like it. Not at that money, and the headlight needs to be round though.

[ellipsis]

But would you eat Paula Bennets vag for it?

...I'd even tell her it tastes nice ...

[T.W.R]

Right, the old fragile sprag clutch setup, I remember paying an absolute fortune to get my Darmah back on the road...

Yeah, damn things. He paid up twice for getting it sorted but it'd crap itself again in short time so gave just bump started everywhere :facepalm:

[T.W.R]

This will be interesting to see where it ends up at :msn-wink:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1602146646.htm?rsqid=f480b5c2a2cf466c9c361d5bc00f5 c4b

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/770080394.jpg

jasonu you should keep tabs on this one for your idea a couple of pages back

[Dadpole]

Stored since 2000? I would budget the price of an engine rebuild on that one.

[T.W.R]

Stored since 2000? I would budget the price of an engine rebuild on that one.

Haven't seen an old spec ME77 for a while either, but I'm curious about the bush-mechanic's fuse that's been wired into it though

[AllanB]

Sheesh. He'd be somewhat disappointed come the first flag drop. And the first corner for that matter.

Ever ridden one of these?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1601562524.htm?rsqid=51b7837eef5547208fc217223198d 9fd

I have, and they feel dreadful. My TT500 was a better road bike. Well, more fun.

How much?.!?


Jesus - even if it was a absolute mint original one that would be top dollar I'd think.

I rode a couple of these back in the day - they were well hyped up. Over rated in my opinion.

Should not have a WOF with no chain guard - imagine the poor bugger on the back of the bike ....

I like the sellers comment about the muffler - forgets to point out the custom muffler has a big fucking dent in it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

But would you eat Paula Bennets vag for it?

As much as I'd love that H2...no.

[jasonu]

This will be interesting to see where it ends up at :msn-wink:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1602146646.htm?rsqid=f480b5c2a2cf466c9c361d5bc00f5 c4b

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/770080394.jpg

jasonu you should keep tabs on this one for your idea a couple of pages back

Yes mate, very interesting.
That resto mod RG500 on USA ebay is at $21200 reserve not met.

[jasonu]

...I'd even tell her it tastes nice ...

You sick puppy.




although I would consider it but would have to view the Kwakka first.

[Crasherfromwayback]

...I'd even tell her it tastes nice ...

You'd do it for a GN125.

[malcy25]

I made him put all 6 disc mounting bolts in each side, LOL. For some reason all the OW and most of the TZ owners thought they could leave out half the mounting bolts that season. I passed word along to the other Nat scrutineers to try and stop it.
The OW will sound raw - 52 deg of advance will do that. Mo Haley told me never to use an OW kit ignition box in an FZR sidecar engine. They tried it in the Agip chair and apparently nearly detonated it to a standstill. The FZR1000 has two peaks in the advance curve - 46 and 48 degrees. The OW uses more advance than that...I always thought it was poor turbulence in the 5 valvers at certain RPM made it necessary to be that agressive. The bigger valves and cams in the OW just made the problem worse.

Did you ride at the Wigram meeting between Nat rounds where Tony McMurdo's 600 on nitro embarrassed the 750's ?

Yeah, the 5 valve head needed lots of advance as the chamber was so flat - a real nightmare I heard.

Rode Wigram Jan 1993 after the GP on my RS125 - smallest bike in the field. I remember John Boote next to me on the grid and a couple of Brittens there also - the taxi ways were so wide, I was getting lost!

I recall many riders with 3 each side thinking, why.....

[jasonu]

This will be interesting to see where it ends up at :msn-wink:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1602146646.htm?rsqid=f480b5c2a2cf466c9c361d5bc00f5 c4b

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/770080394.jpg

jasonu you should keep tabs on this one for your idea a couple of pages back

Here's another resto mod.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Suzuki-RG500/183175555717?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.M BE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3D75c6a9 2016b445e7bf76f37fd50d5691%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D1 %26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D152976213413%26itm% 3D183175555717&_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476

[T.W.R]

Here's another resto mod.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Suzuki-RG500/183175555717?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.M BE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3D75c6a9 2016b445e7bf76f37fd50d5691%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D1 %26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D152976213413%26itm% 3D183175555717&_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476

That's pretty sharp looking piece of kit....though at the current bid it's over $20kNZ already. I'm not really a fan of the RGs even though they're a potent machine my personal preference is a NS400R, though in saying that one of those hybrid RG500/RGV250s would be an entertaining package.

[ellipsis]

You'd do it for a GN125.

...maybe a really nice GN250, pipe wrapped, wet dream, but not a 125 Pete...I do have some limits to my obsessive, compulsive, motorcycle, disorder...HDC probably knows what I mean regards the syndrome...in fact I think he is silly enough to know exactly what I mean...I'd even smile and do it twice, if that was required...it's a nice bike...I def wouldn't suck the peanuts out of her shit though...that would be a tough one...I'd probably consider it though...

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's pretty sharp looking piece of kit....though at the current bid it's over $20kNZ already. I'm not really a fan of the RGs even though they're a potent machine my personal preference is a NS400R, though in saying that one of those hybrid RG500/RGV250s would be an entertaining package.

30K and climbing...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-RG500/183168980016?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

[Dadpole]

I will just roll this in using a long stick... https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1601499390.htm?rsqid=17a766231599452baa88afe2449f3 60b

[Mike.Gayner]

I will just roll this in using a long stick... https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1601499390.htm?rsqid=17a766231599452baa88afe2449f3 60b

LOL $5k for a bike that literally has an onion sack for a seat.

[husaberg]

LOL $5k for a bike that literally has an onion sack for a seat.

Its a coffee sack, remember this is a quality bike, "Distinguished Gentleman's ride prize winner" no less.
I am open to correction but I think its actually the worst attempt at a café racer I have ever seen grace the pages of this thread.

[Voltaire]

I will just roll this in using a long stick... https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1601499390.htm?rsqid=17a766231599452baa88afe2449f3 60b

In 1983 when my Sl 100 motor blew up I fitted an XR200 motor.
I painted the tank black with rattle cans from the Post Office store and the rusty exhaust VHT matt black...with Born to Run playing on the record player and lashings of Steinlager blue.

[T.W.R]

30K and climbing...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-RG500/183168980016?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

:gob: At the price but mmm would be an interesting ride :yes:


I will just roll this in using a long stick... https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1601499390.htm?rsqid=17a766231599452baa88afe2449f3 60b

:facepalm: Looks like a Fifth form engineering project gone wrong

[Voltaire]

$15990 :laugh::laugh::laugh:

for 1/2 an engine.


https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/770372702.jpg

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1593619488.htm?rsqid=a4809848d71b4cf2be223d9a282a3 066

[Kickaha]

[URL]So why have 32 people got this on their watchlist? I don't want to pay 3 grand for a cute but otherwise gutless little shitbox.
I picked one up free from the local dump several years ago


Haven't seen an old spec ME77 for a while either
Best tyre I ever ran on my R75/7, still available new


the taxi ways were so wide, I was getting lost! .
I found it hard to pick the corners and where to turn in because it was so fucking flat and hard to see


$15990 :laugh::laugh::laugh:

for 1/2 an engine.
On any winding road I'd rather have that than your Darmah

[Crasherfromwayback]

On any winding road I'd rather have that than your Darmah

It'd have to be a downhill winding road.

[T.W.R]

Best tyre I ever ran on my R75/7, still available new

Yeah iran them on a few of my older bikes back in the day and never had a problem with them ever, that one would probably be as hard as the hobbs though along with the 33 on the front ;)

I see new generation have wee flutes (want of a better word) in the tread blocks now




On any winding road I'd rather have that than your Darmah

:yes: yep seen that happen plenty of times even with a shit hot rider on the Darmah and even the old MHR too that would only see the arse end of the Pantah scooting off into the distance :lol: Big open country was a different story though

That Pantah at CMG mmm nah doesn't even look right, even with the low kms they're dreaming :pinch:

[jasonu]

30K and climbing...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-RG500/183168980016?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

70hp TZR250??? I'd like to see it.

[Voltaire]

On any winding road I'd rather have that than your Darmah

On any winding road I'd take my R80ST over the Darmah, for posing the Darmah is better.

[F5 Dave]

I will just roll this in using a long stick... https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1601499390.htm?rsqid=17a766231599452baa88afe2449f3 60b
You're getting a bit too good at finding these:crazy:. . .
Like, you're not building these things so you can post them up first are you?

[sidecar bob]

Its a coffee sack, remember this is a quality bike, "Distinguished Gentleman's ride prize winner" no less.
I am open to correction but I think its actually the worst attempt at a café racer I have ever seen grace the pages of this thread.

They couldn't even get some pics of it without a lady dry retching in the background.

[pritch]

After 34 bids the RG500 went for NZD30,631.25.

[Oscar]

$15990 :laugh::laugh::laugh:

for 1/2 an engine.


https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/770372702.jpg

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1593619488.htm?rsqid=a4809848d71b4cf2be223d9a282a3 066

Notes I made for a thing I wrote a while ago:

Pantah

Admittedly attractive on the eye, it was uncomfortable gutless lumpen proof of what happens when socialists drinking Grappa working under Mafioso management build a bike.

And then it rained.
The overtaxed 500 would randomly change into the worlds heaviest and least powerful 250 when water got anywhere near the front cylinder.
And then back to a 500 again.
Usually on the apex of a corner.

[Dadpole]

You're getting a bit too good at finding these:crazy:. . .
Like, you're not building these things so you can post them up first are you?

How dare you Sir. I may be lower than pond slime, but I do have some standards.

[rambaldi]

I see new generation have wee flutes (want of a better word) in the tread blocks now


Are 'sipes' the word you are looking for?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Are 'sipes' the word you are looking for?

That's the one. The new Michelins have real deep mothers. They look great.

[jasonu]

I think this prick got the decimal point in the wrong place.
Shoulda cleaned up the puddle of green liquid before taking the photos too.
https://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/d/2001-suzuki-s650/6562260668.html

[T.W.R]

Are 'sipes' the word you are looking for?

Yeah that'd be the one even though the ones on the new gen ME77s don't extend all the way to the edge of the tread blocks per the average water sipes, I suppose they're more for heat dissipation. Bloody bloody butchers naming slits after themselves lol probably only came up with it after attacking a tire with his carving knife :blink:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Think this cunt needs to stay off the old glass bbq.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604175066.htm?rsqid=bccbd1735cbd450ab2d22fbf72f2a c10

Very Rare Collectors item

LIMITED EDITION

Don'tcha know!!

It's not even tidy.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1601530817.htm?rsqid=b7d3c9e334564ce3af82d4f9eabe4 251


eighteen grand? fucks sake.

the Q & A is worth a look. I am being a cunt again

Please quote the listing number of the KZ900 that sold on tardme "last week" for $28k.

[T.W.R]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1601530817.htm?rsqid=b7d3c9e334564ce3af82d4f9eabe4 251


eighteen grand? fucks sake.

the Q & A is worth a look. I am being a cunt again

Please quote the listing number of the KZ900 that sold on tardme "last week" for $28k.

When he 1st had it listed a month or so back he was only wanting around $10k the auction start was $8.5k lol

[WALRUS]

How about this beauty? Only 1km showing on the odometer apparently! That's so new it isn't even run in

http://www.manheim.co.nz/damaged-vehicles/000000000005230388/2013-honda-trx500-quad-bike?referringPage=SearchResults

[ellipsis]

How about this beauty? Only 1km showing on the odometer apparently! That's so new it isn't even run in

http://www.manheim.co.nz/damaged-vehicles/000000000005230388/2013-honda-trx500-quad-bike?referringPage=SearchResults

...now that's patina...

[Mike.Gayner]

This bike isn't grossly overpriced, though probably worth under $10k because of its age. But why specifically advertise as "No drop, no damage" when anyone with half decent vision can see the banana shaped brake lever?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1599502501.htm?rsqid=a0ea4e799e50420196e1a17da1ff8 091

[AllanB]

Think this cunt needs to stay off the old glass bbq.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604175066.htm?rsqid=bccbd1735cbd450ab2d22fbf72f2a c10




A untidy of a unpopular 'Katana' mate - ya - dreaming

[AllanB]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1601530817.htm?rsqid=b7d3c9e334564ce3af82d4f9eabe4 251


eighteen grand? fucks sake.



But it's a LTD - that stands for Limited so it must command a high price............

I note one header is very blue compared to the other three.

[Crasherfromwayback]

A untidy of a unpopular 'Katana' mate - ya - dreaming

Yep. A high mileage, rough heap of shit, that's dime a dozen. A guy I used to work with at WMCC had about 8 of the fucking things! Super rare!

[F5 Dave]

How about this beauty? Only 1km showing on the odometer apparently! That's so new it isn't even run in

http://www.manheim.co.nz/damaged-vehicles/000000000005230388/2013-honda-trx500-quad-bike?referringPage=SearchResults
As a trailrider sight that warms the heart. Friggin cars for the dirt.

[Drew]

This bike isn't grossly overpriced, though probably worth under $10k because of its age. But why specifically advertise as "No drop, no damage" when anyone with half decent vision can see the banana shaped brake lever?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1599502501.htm?rsqid=a0ea4e799e50420196e1a17da1ff8 091
They've got curly levers, and in the shot looking down on the bars the lever is clearly not bent out of shape.

The pic where it looks bent is something in the background I think.

[jasonu]

How about this beauty? Only 1km showing on the odometer apparently! That's so new it isn't even run in

http://www.manheim.co.nz/damaged-vehicles/000000000005230388/2013-honda-trx500-quad-bike?referringPage=SearchResults

Why would you even bother? Except for possibly the frame the whole thing is useless and I doubt there is a hot market for burnt trx500 frames.

[Mike.Gayner]

They've got curly levers, and in the shot looking down on the bars the lever is clearly not bent out of shape.

The pic where it looks bent is something in the background I think.

I disagree, the lever is most definitely bent. These bikes do not have "curly levers", I've never seen such a thing.

It's not even a big deal, bikes get dropped. I just don't understand why you'd unnecessarily say "never dropped" when there is obvious evidence of a driveway drop.

336250

336251

336252

336253

[Drew]

Ah, I wasn't looking at the end. Thought you were talking about the master cylinder side, where they curl in toward the bar.

[Crasherfromwayback]

For 5k, you can have this rusty pile of poo.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604460477.htm?rsqid=bfd433485880499882252a3b730be 3bc

[F5 Dave]

Why would you even bother? Except for possibly the frame the whole thing is useless and I doubt there is a hot market for burnt trx500 frames.

Why would you bother?@ I think everyone should be encouraged to do that to them.

Oh you mean to buy the cremated remains? Well. . . Maybe if there was a market for them like that. Some sort of crowd source venture?

[F5 Dave]

For 5k, you can have this rusty pile of poo.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604460477.htm?rsqid=bfd433485880499882252a3b730be 3bc

Only thing that made me feel nostalgic for my old 750 version was the speedo.
Good basis for a restorer. But don't sink too much on a 400. Grand?

[F5 Dave]

I disagree, the lever is most definitely bent. These bikes do not have "curly levers", I've never seen such a thing.

It's not even a big deal, bikes get dropped. I just don't understand why you'd unnecessarily say "never dropped" when there is obvious evidence of a driveway drop. . . ]

Maybe he never let go of the handlebars. . So . . Technically. . .

[Crasherfromwayback]

Good basis for a restorer. But don't sink too much on a 400. Grand?

Tops I would've thought. Not as bad as the freak with the Popup 750 though!

[HenryDorsetCase]

For 5k, you can have this rusty pile of poo.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604460477.htm?rsqid=bfd433485880499882252a3b730be 3bc

could you staple a GSXR750 motor in there?

[Crasherfromwayback]

could you staple a GSXR750 motor in there?

Dunno mate. But I wouldn't bother.

[T.W.R]

This would have to be right at the stiff end of the wedge if not completely dropped off the end into the abyss :rolleyes:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604954134.htm

[jasonu]

This would have to be right at the stiff end of the wedge if not completely dropped off the end into the abyss :rolleyes:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604954134.htm

Prolly the same cunt as the $60k XR500

[T.W.R]

Prolly the same cunt as the $60k XR500

:laugh: nah no pictures of a Choppa Reid wannabe posing with the bike :facepalm: though suppose give it time; actually you'd think if you were trying to sell something unrealistically you'd market it the best way possible by throwing up as many good pictures as you're allowed to showing the bike at it's best :confused:

[sidecar bob]

This would have to be right at the stiff end of the wedge if not completely dropped off the end into the abyss :rolleyes:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604954134.htm

Yeah, I'd always thought a 5 speed 350 would go better than a 6 speed 400.:weird:

[T.W.R]

Yeah, I'd always thought a 5 speed 350 would go better than a 6 speed 400.:weird:

Was having a look at the sellers feedback before :pinch: It'd be proceed with caution...could quite well be a highly polished turd :msn-wink:

[Voltaire]

This would have to be right at the stiff end of the wedge if not completely dropped off the end into the abyss :rolleyes:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604954134.htm

I saw that at a classic run a couple of weeks ago and spoke to the owner, seemed to think it was very collectable. Pays to get Beaded Wheels and trawl the classifieds.....:laugh:

[T.W.R]

I saw that at a classic run a couple of weeks ago and spoke to the owner, seemed to think it was very collectable. Pays to get Beaded Wheels and trawl the classifieds.....:laugh:

I've got an evaluation booklet on Honda bikes and in the "nice idea but" listing they have the 350 saying as a little brother of the 500, the 500 was a peach and the 350 all revs & no action but when 400 came along all was forgiven :lol:
Haven't read a Beaded Wheels for years....got a handful from the early 80s that'll probably be getting turfed out soon.

[Grumph]

Yeah, I'd always thought a 5 speed 350 would go better than a 6 speed 400.:weird:

The only advantage of the 350 is that it's age eligible for pre 72. Both have to be taken out to around 450 before they go. And recammed...and recarbed...etc etc etc....

[Voltaire]

The only advantage of the 350 is that it's age eligible for pre 72. Both have to be taken out to around 450 before they go. And recammed...and recarbed...etc etc etc....

One running in CMRR got black flagged for laying down a smoke screen.... 350/4 apparently has oil ring issues.

I suspect pre 72 is a dying class and with pre 95 coming on line pre 82 might be too.

[husaberg]

Yeah, I'd always thought a 5 speed 350 would go better than a 6 speed 400.:weird:
not any I ever rode either, the only thing in the favour of the 350/4 was the cb400 really didn't need the 6th gear.
The 400/4 was a much better bike all around.

Not sure what Grumph will say but he should know having built both, but I would expect a CB350 twin would be way faster and cheaper than a 350/4 racer with only the 350 four sounding a bit cooler.

[ojyamaha]

For 5k, you can have this rusty pile of poo.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604460477.htm?rsqid=bfd433485880499882252a3b730be 3bcThose guys have bikes all the time on tme that are way overpriced .

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Those guys have bikes all the time on tme that are way overpriced .

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I know. Shame on them. Sullies the *industry*, although I'm thinking their just opportunistic cowboys.

[riffer]

Tops I would've thought. Not as bad as the freak with the Popup 750 though!
Now I'm depressed. I was hoping for a second there that mine was gonna be worth some serious coin when I'd finished the resto. It wasn't in much worse condition than that when I got it off trademe for $1... its not even gonna owe me $8k once I've finished a ground up resto.

What's a decent condition one of those worth anyway (for insurance purposes)? $5k?

[riffer]

This would have to be right at the stiff end of the wedge if not completely dropped off the end into the abyss :rolleyes:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1604954134.htm

Now I'm doubly depressed. My 1969 CB350 would be worth $40K now...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Now I'm depressed. I was hoping for a second there that mine was gonna be worth some serious coin when I'd finished the resto. It wasn't in much worse condition than that when I got it off trademe for $1... its not even gonna owe me $8k once I've finished a ground up resto.

What's a decent condition one of those worth anyway (for insurance purposes)? $5k?

As I said to you on FB, Bro. Don't worry what it owes you, or what you spent resto-ing it. That clown is asking 8k for a totally fucked, huge mileage one. If you ever need a written valuation for your bikes for insurance purposes, I'm only too happy to help.

[ojyamaha]

Now I'm depressed. I was hoping for a second there that mine was gonna be worth some serious coin when I'd finished the resto. It wasn't in much worse condition than that when I got it off trademe for $1... its not even gonna owe me $8k once I've finished a ground up resto.

What's a decent condition one of those worth anyway (for insurance purposes)? $5k?Mines 37000 km unmolested except for Marving pipes. Paid 5k for it a couple of years agohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180418/d34821c6376d861d33a8d78e7517221a.jpg

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Mines 37000 km unmolested except for Marving pipes. Paid 5k for it a couple of years ago[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-lk

Nice collection mate.

[riffer]

What I'd give to ride a Yammie LC again...

but I need to get my arm out of this damned sling first...

[ojyamaha]

Nice collection mate.Not allowed to say the c word !! But thanks . Stuck in the 80's.

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[T.W.R]

What I'd give to ride a Yammie LC again...

but I need to get my arm out of this damned sling first...

One to keep an eye on

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1605226897.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

One to keep an eye on

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1605226897.htm

Except for this bit... "and is still scary fast..you have to hold on tight when the power valves open! ". Righto!

[T.W.R]

Except for this bit... "and is still scary fast..you have to hold on tight when the power valves open! ". Righto!

:laugh: Yeah must be a rather timid soul :facepalm: but you missed the bast part : "Still with its factory motor and frame" :blink:

[Crasherfromwayback]

:laugh: Yeah must be a rather timid soul :facepalm: but you missed the bast part : "Still with its factory motor and frame" :blink:

Lol. Top show Old Bean!

[Grumph]

not any I ever rode either, the only thing in the favour of the 350/4 was the cb400 really didn't need the 6th gear.
The 400/4 was a much better bike all around.

Not sure what Grumph will say but he should know having built both, but I would expect a CB350 twin would be way faster and cheaper than a 350/4 racer with only the 350 four sounding a bit cooler.

The twin is the better bike, yes, but finding one with a good crank is nearly impossible now. At least the plain bearing 350/400 is readily rebuildable.

[pritch]

Now I'm depressed. I was hoping for a second there that mine was gonna be worth some serious coin when I'd finished the resto. It wasn't in much worse condition than that when I got it off trademe for $1... its not even gonna owe me $8k once I've finished a ground up resto.



A guy I know records every cent he spends on his bikes. Normally Beemers, normally fours. He strayed from the straight and narrow and bought a Ducati, the relationship was very brief. He didn't like what the figures were adding up to. A decade or two later he strayed again and bought a Harley, that relationship too was very brief for the same reason.

Me, I'd rather not know. On the other hand, I'd have been able to afford a new bathroom years ago.

[F5 Dave]

:laugh: Yeah must be a rather timid soul :facepalm: but you missed the bast part : "Still with its factory motor and frame" :blink:
Oohh, non std frame/tank rubbers. Disqualified :laugh:

I had mine for years, it was cool. If you hadn't riddn for 10 years maybe scary fast for a week or so. After that just useful. 6k and even though obsessively clean you just know there will be a bunch of stuff to fix and replace. Mine had over an inch play in the rear linkage at the wheel. Mate just bought it new and never noticed, as it wore, heck must have been 4 years old when I got it. Needed some inventive machining to avoid new link arms.

[T.W.R]

Oohh, non std frame/tank rubbers. Disqualified :laugh:

I had mine for years, it was cool. If you hadn't riddn for 10 years maybe scary fast for a week or so. After that just useful. 6k and even though obsessively clean you just know there will be a bunch of stuff to fix and replace. Mine had over an inch play in the rear linkage at the wheel. Mate just bought it new and never noticed, as it wore, heck must have been 4 years old when I got it. Needed some inventive machining to avoid new link arms.

Yeah after a extended break if you jumped on one and gave it's head a few times you'd get a few shocks but the novelty would soon wear off. Back in the 80s a mate had RZ250RR that was pretty nice to ride but back then we were jumping up the ladder fast so never had any bikes longer than a year so didn't get to see a lot of long term wear & tear on items, the bunch of us were playing the who's got the biggest & fastest game so middle weights came & went pretty quickly then stupidly did the got to have italian trip :pinch: . wised up to that one though it'd be nice to have them sitting in the shed now :facepalm:

[ojyamaha]

Yeah after a extended break if you jumped on one and gave it's head a few times you'd get a few shocks but the novelty would soon wear off. Back in the 80s a mate had RZ250RR that was pretty nice to ride but back then we were jumping up the ladder fast so never had any bikes longer than a year so didn't get to see a lot of long term wear & tear on items, the bunch of us were playing the who's got the biggest & fastest game so middle weights came & went pretty quickly then stupidly did the got to have italian trip :pinch: . wised up to that one though it'd be nice to have them sitting in the shed now :facepalm:I own a 84 rz350 . They are great fun , light turn fast wobble brake ok need constant attention smell awesome. Good unmolested ones hard to come by I recon.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

The twin is the better bike, yes, but finding one with a good crank is nearly impossible now. At least the plain bearing 350/400 is readily rebuildable.

We did one for a customer at work. Made one good one out of three fucked ones, plus a bit of engineering. Cost the guy fucking thousands all up, we spent that much time on it. Cunt of a thing.

[T.W.R]

I own a 84 rz350 . They are great fun , light turn fast wobble brake ok need constant attention smell awesome. Good unmolested ones hard to come by I recon.


A mate had one the same year & colour as yours back in the day :yes: we put him on to Castrol R and used to enjoy chasing him around getting a lung full of them fumes :cool:

[Grumph]

We did one for a customer at work. Made one good one out of three fucked ones, plus a bit of engineering. Cost the guy fucking thousands all up, we spent that much time on it. Cunt of a thing.

I'm assuming you're talking about the twin ? Try the same exercise with a 450 for another degree of difficulty....but that's Honda....

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm assuming you're talking about the twin ? Try the same exercise with a 450 for another degree of difficulty....but that's Honda....

Yep. But Paul, John and Mark are all crank rebuilding pros. And yeah, typical eh!

[Voltaire]

Speaking of Honda 450's. My mate has spend $$$$ building up a Honda 450, now 500cc racer.

After two sessions at Pukekohe and HD decided its time to give up racing.

A no expense spared build. He says it owes him over 15K.

I don't think it has any rego history so not road legal.

Comes with a full fairing. Dynoed at 50 HP he tells me.

PM if you want his contact details.

[sidecar bob]

Speaking of Honda 450's. My mate has spend $$$$ building up a Honda 450, now 500cc racer.

After two sessions at Pukekohe and HD decided its time to give up racing.

A no expense spared build. He says it owes him over 15K.

I don't think it has any rego history so not road legal.

Comes with a full fairing. Dynoed at 50 HP he tells me.

PM if you want his contact details.

If he had bought a tired old BMW & pulled the lights off & raced that, he would only be in the hole for a couple of grand about now.:innocent:

[Voltaire]

If he had bought a tired old BMW & pulled the lights off & raced that, he would only be in the hole for a couple of grand about now.:innocent:

Actually....he did that and spent north of 15K on that too, crashed it twice and its since been sold to another guy who has crashed it three times.

He was however 5 seconds faster than my one that cost less than 5k to build.

Despite what Optimistic Tyre Kickers say, prices on old bikes are going up.

[sidecar bob]

Actually....he did that and spent north of 15K on that too, crashed it twice and its since been sold to another guy who has crashed it three times.

He was however 5 seconds faster than my one that cost less than 5k to build.

Despite what Optimistic Tyre Kickers say, prices on old bikes are going up.

Oh A.C. Lovely chap. Chased him a few times.

[F5 Dave]

I own a 84 rz350 . They are great fun , light turn fast wobble brake ok need constant attention smell awesome. Good unmolested ones hard to come by I recon.

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The F2 were less flighty than the Ks but needed bearings and suspension fluids renewed and matched tyres. A 120 on the rear screwed them up. I machined an FZ400 wheel (same spoke pattern as F2) so I could run a 130 ok.

[Voltaire]

"1984" Norton Commando.$12K


https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/773105145.jpg


Bike has cracked left hand crank case, 2 0clock from drive side main bearing about 70mm long. see Photo.
Left hand crankcase is about 500 Eng Pounds ex England.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1606538274.htm?rsqid=9e6401144a0646548566249310709 a87

[F5 Dave]

And Lord knows what else you would find when you're in there that would quickly add to the bill.
Would like to ride one one day just for experience..

[rustys]

Speaking of Honda 450's. My mate has spend $$$$ building up a Honda 450, now 500cc racer.

After two sessions at Pukekohe and HD decided its time to give up racing.

A no expense spared build. He says it owes him over 15K.

I don't think it has any rego history so not road legal.

Comes with a full fairing. Dynoed at 50 HP he tells me.

PM if you want his contact details.

Sent you a PM... Voltaire

[Voltaire]

Sent you a PM... Voltaire

replied with his number. I think a Mark Brooks has been enquiring on your behalf.:niceone:

[AllanB]

Nice Norton, shame about the crack - the owner knows there is potential for hurt opening that up thus it's not done.

[F5 Dave]

Oops almost posted a blasphemous post about Counting Jesus Kristy. Dam spell check.

[rustys]

Can't belive what some people are asking these days for bike prices on TDM, did'nt think the money was around, are they being sold?
Spotted this on TDM although rather nice, why would you pay $36500.00 for it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1607370251.htm

[AllanB]

Can't belive what some people are asking these days for bike prices on TDM, did'nt think the money was around, are they being sold?
Spotted this on TDM although rather nice, why would you pay $36500.00 for it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1607370251.htm

No idea of it's value but it is friggen cool. I want it. OK not $36K want, but darn I'd love to Sunday ride it.

Given the expensive top end new motorcycles I see on the road all the time, there is plenty of money around.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Can't belive what some people are asking these days for bike prices on TDM, did'nt think the money was around, are they being sold?
Spotted this on TDM although rather nice, why would you pay $36500.00 for it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1607370251.htm

I've been wrong many times before, but I'd be surprised if it'll do 100mph.

[jellywrestler]

No idea of it's value but it is friggen cool. I want it. OK not $36K want, but darn I'd love to Sunday ride it.

Given the expensive top end new motorcycles I see on the road all the time, there is plenty of money around.

yeah i just about fell out of my secretary when i saw that, they've got a few 'collectable ducatis', i always laugh when i see an SPS. when i had my 851 duke i checked import numbers, approx half were base models and half the numbered specials, so 50% of them are 'colletable', bit like the black shadow vincent, at one stage they were selling more black shadows than rapides...

[AllanB]

I've been wrong many times before, but I'd be surprised if it'll do 100mph.

A bit if Googling says it can - speeds ranging from 140 to 170 with 'sports tuning' they all appear to back up the 100mph claim - at something like 10,000 rpm on the wee single!

http://www.ducati.com/history/60s/mach_1/index.do

[Crasherfromwayback]

A bit if Googling says it can - speeds ranging from 140 to 170 with 'sports tuning'

http://www.ducati.com/history/60s/mach_1/index.do

Lol. Sports tuning. Like using nitro?

[T.W.R]

I see the whole lot are Brian & Kath Barnsley's bikes the HMC founders. Kath was a nice person to deal with she sold me my FJ11 back the early mid 90s
I was shaking my head at the MHR900 for $36.5K though....felt like having a bit of a :weep: thinking of what the ol Mille would be worth now

[AllanB]

Ah the collector bikes - I'm shit at picking them. Stuff I'd think was worth F-all becomes expensive and ones I think should gain in value don't.

MHR Ducatis - continue to gain in value. The Ducati Sport Classic family models from the mid 2000's are gaining in value and most near original asking price. I think they have become unintentionally collectible. I recall a yellow one sat in Casbolts for ages until it was suitably reduced in value to move it - bloody should have purchased it!

But that 250 post at $36k has me thinking and after reading a bit about them I'd rather own that than a $36k Graham Crosby streetfightered Z900. Some days I surprise myself!

[T.W.R]

But that 250 post at $36k has me thinking and after reading a bit about them I'd rather own that than a $36k Graham Crosby streetfightered Z900. Some days I surprise myself!

Croz's Zeds mmm all he's doing is copying Bull Dock in Japan but for a fraction of the price & a small portion of the go fast goodies :msn-wink:

http://www.bulldock.jp/

[Grumph]

I've been wrong many times before, but I'd be surprised if it'll do 100mph.

While I can't see the ad, I gather it's a mach 1 250. I did the motor and tidied the frame on one for a restorer a few years back. Got it running and sorted jetting etc for him too. Mid 90's bog stock is it. Open pipe and changed gearing, yes, 100mph. Lovely little bike to ride. I'd have one.

[Crasherfromwayback]

While I can't see the ad, I gather it's a mach 1 250. I did the motor and tidied the frame on one for a restorer a few years back. Got it running and sorted jetting etc for him too. Mid 90's bog stock is it. Open pipe and changed gearing, yes, 100mph. Lovely little bike to ride. I'd have one.

I'm impressed! Thought it was impressive that my wee BR250 could do it back in the day!

[husaberg]

A bit if Googling says it can - speeds ranging from 140 to 170 with 'sports tuning' they all appear to back up the 100mph claim - at something like 10,000 rpm on the wee single!

http://www.ducati.com/history/60s/mach_1/index.do
in the early days of Cams racing here there were heaps of them plus the 350's Bland brought them in by the 40ft container from America.
they were quite quick but outclassed by the Honda's. The ones to have for racing were the later wide case models i think the gearbox was stronger.
Vic camp used them in the UK for his race school, he made up fibreglass seat and tank based on the works singles that Bruno Spaggiary raced most of the bikes here were converted to that trim. All the 250 and 350 were 57mm stroke so they were quite a revy motor for its day.
https://www.racebikemart.com/uploads/images/sPKEv1447682484.jpg (https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi9gZaBiMraAhWDxLwKHXRvAJAQjRx6BAgAEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.racebikemart.com%2Fadverts%2 FDucati_350_Single_Racer__1447682476.php&psig=AOvVaw2TZwrBmy81rREmYP9nIPnD&ust=1524355260780342)

[jasonu]

Lol. Sports tuning. Like using nitro?

No. Neutral going down a steep hill.

[T.W.R]

Go Diesel FTW

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1608259094.htm

[pritch]

No idea of it's value but it is friggen cool. I want it. OK not $36K want, but darn I'd love to Sunday ride it.



I'll second that. It might have to go back overseas to get top dollar. I'd like to see the rest of the collection.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Go Diesel FTW

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1608259094.htm

I've always wanted a motorbike powered by a concrete mixer engine!

[Crasherfromwayback]

I've always wanted a motorbike powered by a concrete mixer engine!

Easy. Buy a Boxer.

[Voltaire]

Easy. Buy a Boxer.

I clearly like concrete mixer engines :innocent:, saying that if I was a serious luddite would probably own a Harley...but I don't like tassles.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I clearly like concrete mixer engines :innocent:, saying that if I was a serious luddite would probably own a Harley...but I don't like tassles.

Lol. You took the bait. Again! I can't find it right now, but I actually came across a Boxer on a particular FB page, that gave me a stiffy! No tassles required. There's only two or three HD's I'd ever want to own. None of them I'll ever be able to afford.

[Intruder VS]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1608115589.htm?rsqid=93d4e06e69164b37a00d4ef12fb4b 8a5

Hope his missus isn’t in a hurry for a new car

[Scubbo]

so it's basically a gn125 with a lifan motor with a honda badge? $4k :rolleyes:

[Mike.Gayner]

What do you lot think about this one?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1595470279.htm

Disclaimer: I have one sitting in the garage, reg'd in great unrestored condition, that I scored for very little money a few years ago. No idea what it's worth, no intention of ever selling it.

[jasonu]

What do you lot think about this one?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1595470279.htm

.

Prolly cost more than that to PROPERLY restore one.

[Mike.Gayner]

Prolly cost more than that to PROPERLY restore one.

Yeah it's not a great restoration.

[ellipsis]

Yeah it's not a great restoration.

...I'd own that in a flash...
...if I had 8G's lazy cash...

[AllanB]

Won't be surprised if it fetches $8

What were those twin cylinder Suzukis back in the day - wolf or something - had twin high pipes one either side in my minds eye - mainly painted green. Sure it was the wolf but some good craft brew may be clouding my memory.

[T.W.R]

Won't be surprised if it fetches $8

What were those twin cylinder Suzukis back in the day - wolf or something - had twin high pipes one either side in my minds eye - mainly painted green. Sure it was the wolf but some good craft brew may be clouding my memory.

Wolfs and Stingers :msn-wink:

[ellipsis]

Wolfs and Stingers :msn-wink:

...and my Hustler...

[T.W.R]

...and my Hustler...

Ah a Super Six X6 huh that's a bit more special than your average T20 :yes:

[GrayWolf]

While I can't see the ad, I gather it's a mach 1 250. I did the motor and tidied the frame on one for a restorer a few years back. Got it running and sorted jetting etc for him too. Mid 90's bog stock is it. Open pipe and changed gearing, yes, 100mph. Lovely little bike to ride. I'd have one.

Not a 'mach 1' but in the 70's as a learner {UK} I had an early Kwaka S1 250 they were good for a 'ton' or bloody close to it. Anyway, I overtook this yellow 'BSA?' cafe racer thing on a ride, and then got absolutely cleaned out when we hit the twisty stuff'... It was a 250 Desmo, bloody quick thing for a single.

[Kickaha]

thinking of what the ol Mille would be worth now

I sold mine for 20k three years ago, 18-25k USD for one out of the USA

[Voltaire]

I sold mine for 20k three years ago, 18-25k USD for one out of the USA

:woohoo: Your in luck, one on TM for $21K.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/774457907.jpg

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1608517060.htm?rsqid=db3fbdcccc6f4dfaa88ca94d09873 66b

Get rid of those money pit sidecars and stop being a " bit on the side'.:lol:

[Crasherfromwayback]

:woohoo: Your in luck, one on TM for $21K.

:

Nice one. I'd rather have a Mille though.

[Kickaha]

Nice one. I'd rather have a Mille though.

Engine parts are far easier to get for a 900

[Crasherfromwayback]

Engine parts are far easier to get for a 900

Yeah, but I'm used to trying to find needles in haystacks. I'd love either of course, but after my lotto win, it'd be a Mille by choice.

[Voltaire]

Yeah, but I'm used to trying to find needles in haystacks. I'd love either of course, but after my lotto win, it'd be a Mille by choice.

You need lotto for that?, just save up a bit.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You need lotto for that?, just save up a bit.

Hahahaha. Yes, I would. Whilst I could sell a few toys, save a bit, it'd take me winning lotto before buying one would come into view. There are many things I want/need to do first. ;-). Like build my fuck off you Katana, and finish my SR builds. :msn-wink:

[tigertim20]

maybe we should direct sellers here with their bikes first, to get a more realistic market price. aside from the odd ignorant naysayer, seems like a few on here are actually pretty clued up on things.

Ive actually got one im thinking of getting rid of, still on the fence, but dunno what its worth!

[F5 Dave]

Well clearly Axhell will pay $5 And a bag of chips, so that' a good reserve price and the sky's your limit.

[tigertim20]

Well clearly Axhell will pay $5 And a bag of chips, so that' a good reserve price and the sky's your limit.

what kind of chips, and how big is the bag?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ive actually got one im thinking of getting rid of, still on the fence, but dunno what its worth!

As risky as it seems, putting it out with $1.00 res will normally fetch around current market value. I've only once been raped badly doing so, and that was only because no one was obviously after a YZ465 right then. That, and the two cunts I did know that would've liked it, were too fucking pussy whipped to bid on it.

[sidecar bob]

Engine parts are far easier to get for a 900

Which is handy seeing as you need some every time you ride one through a puddle.;)

[tigertim20]

As risky as it seems, putting it out with $1.00 res will normally fetch around current market value. I've only once been raped badly doing so, and that was only because no one was obviously after a YZ465 right then. That, and the two cunts I did know that would've liked it, were too fucking pussy whipped to bid on it.

My issue with $1 reserve on bikes is that, often I see the auction and dont have enough time to sort out the cash on such short notice. My concern is that Il miss out on better money from others in the same situation as me - I dont routinely have several thousand dollars in disposable cash in a place that is particularly fast to access (protecting me from my own impulses).

the bike in question is a '04 cbr600rr, about 34k on it. reg on hold till next month. Im sure it will fly through a WOF. Isnt rough, but not mint either.
Has a full exhaust system on it, an HRC ecu, aftermarket adjustable pegs, longer bars and some other bits like wavy rotors etc.
Has spares, including all the stock stuff, full exhaust, rotors, pegs, bars, ecu and a bunch of other bits, and about 3 sets pf spare fairings (one fibreglass race set almost complete, another road set modified for track duty, and another road set thats been sanded back) tyres less than 1000k on them.

fucked if I know what its worth?

[Dadpole]

First get the WOF.
Every sale I see that says "Will fly through WOF but no time" I wonder would the seller sign a binding contract about that. It looks to much like the infamous "Only needs a tune".

[tigertim20]

First get the WOF.
Every sale I see that says "Will fly through WOF but no time" I wonder would the seller sign a binding contract about that. It looks to much like the infamous "Only needs a tune".

I agree, and I will do, I always wonder why if it would fly through, the seller hasnt put one on given its likely to affect the price . . . but even with wof i still have no idea of value

[AllanB]

I agree, and I will do, I always wonder why if it would fly through, the seller hasnt put one on


I swear these sellers KNOW it won't or recently has NOT got a WOF.

If you are selling you want top dollar right? Best buck is if it has a new WOF. It's a Saturday morning to arrange or if you are lucky your local bike shop is near work.

Lying fuckers IMO.

[F5 Dave]

Pit it back to stock put say 5k on it and accept anything a jump above 4, then sell off bit separately. Else people will think it' spent most of its life on the track. Unless it actually has, then sell it as a track bike and sell the stock stuff separately.
I'm guessing at price, Pete should know better.

[F5 Dave]

Actually this seems quite reasonable

https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/mcy/d/solid-gold-cb350/6564591401.html

[jasonu]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Yamaha-XS/152985017378?hash=item239e9e1c22:g:CVgAAOSwl8Ja20a Q&vxp=mtr

[Scubbo]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rJORT2wSNcA/hqdefault.jpg

[Pound]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1610240487.htm?rsqid=8f7516662ea94c9190d387eda4dfa 2b8

Maybe I could understand just what the hell he was trying to say if he stopped shouting....

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1610240487.htm?rsqid=8f7516662ea94c9190d387eda4dfa 2b8

Maybe I could understand just what the hell he was trying to say if he stopped shouting....

That dude is overcompensating for something (or perhaps he just enjoys sexe d'anal - I'm not judging) because there is an entire section about the seat on that bike. Like a paragraph.

Its also got them new-fangled "Metseler" tyres.

I am tempted to ask a question as to whether I can get finance.

Also, what's a "Cargo Transom"?

[F5 Dave]

Ahh Cmon the Internet is quite new and people have to get used to etiquette.
Someone should be along shortly to accuse him of being Hitler.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1236576612.htm?rsqid=26cdc200d69c4481acaa89f761a18 d67


ELEVEN GRAND? I mean its cool as shit, and being sold by the most expensive and biggest fuckwit of a dealer in creation. But this must be some sort of record.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ahh Cmon the Internet is quite new and people have to get used to etiquette.
Someone should be along shortly to accuse him of being Hitler.

Hmmmmm that might be me. I have ten more minutes of lunch to kill.

Whats a cargo transom though?

[pritch]

ELEVEN GRAND? I mean its cool as shit, and being sold by the most expensive and biggest fuckwit of a dealer in creation. But this must be some sort of record.

"Fully striped" it's a bloody zebra?

"Very rear" More anal fixation?

Some of us can be picky, and I'm guilty, but if whoever writes the ads isn't great at England as she is writ, somebody else should proof read the ads prior to posting.

On an unrelated matter I find it mildly intriguing that HenryDC, who lives in Christchurch, has such pronounced antipathy to an Auckland dealer.

[Grumph]

On an unrelated matter I find it mildly intriguing that HenryDC, who lives in Christchurch, has such pronounced antipathy to an Auckland dealer.

It's bred into us. As my old man used to quote - when they enlarged the embankment at Lancaster Park in the 1950's they dug up a one eyed skull - Canterbury Man. We're proud of it too...

cargo transom - Brings to mind the back end of a RoRo ship - bloody big hatch. Otherwise a window above a door you can pass goods through....

[Drew]

My issue with $1 reserve on bikes is that, often I see the auction and dont have enough time to sort out the cash on such short notice. My concern is that Il miss out on better money from others in the same situation as me - I dont routinely have several thousand dollars in disposable cash in a place that is particularly fast to access (protecting me from my own impulses).

the bike in question is a '04 cbr600rr, about 34k on it. reg on hold till next month. Im sure it will fly through a WOF. Isnt rough, but not mint either.
Has a full exhaust system on it, an HRC ecu, aftermarket adjustable pegs, longer bars and some other bits like wavy rotors etc.
Has spares, including all the stock stuff, full exhaust, rotors, pegs, bars, ecu and a bunch of other bits, and about 3 sets pf spare fairings (one fibreglass race set almost complete, another road set modified for track duty, and another road set thats been sanded back) tyres less than 1000k on them.

fucked if I know what its worth?

I reckon its three and a half grand. But I'm a bit stingey on bikes set up for track use.

[Kickaha]

Yeah, but I'm used to trying to find needles in haystacks. I'd love either of course, but after my lotto win, it'd be a Mille by choice.

Well even something as simple as finding pistons involved having them made, clutch plates no longer available, think it was the same with the plain mains bearings


Which is handy seeing as you need some every time you ride one through a puddle.;)

Rode through plenty and it was fine, although it was raining when it dropped that valve

[JimO]

.

Whats a cargo transom though? its a nautical term

[HenryDorsetCase]

On an unrelated matter I find it mildly intriguing that HenryDC, who lives in Christchurch, has such pronounced antipathy to an Auckland dealer.

Not really. I saw a bike on their site and phoned up to buy it. Got some fuckwit who said "Orrrr nuuuuurrrrr maiiiiite uts sold". It wasnt sold I found out later. Cockhead. Lazy and stupid.

[F5 Dave]

Nice shiny front tyre.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1602533350.htm?rsqid=5f05e5fe5ed644ff8bc58cf6a089e 3ec

And naahh.

[F5 Dave]

It's old.
It's rare.
It's fucked.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1609646109.htm?rsqid=5f05e5fe5ed644ff8bc58cf6a089e 3ec

But good luck selling that scrap.

He was going to do it up with his son, but that' not going to happen. . . Because the son said -"what's that turd old man?"

Followed by, oh look! No chance of buying any spare parts.

[AllanB]

Nice shiny front tyre.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1602533350.htm?rsqid=5f05e5fe5ed644ff8bc58cf6a089e 3ec

And naahh.

Lets hope it's water.

Cool bikes, weirdly low kms, reckon it's priced too high.

[Voltaire]

Wow.

If only the front valve guides didn't fall out when you went thru puddles.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1610422217.htm?rsqid=d46fefec4e59467781b8648b59523 77b

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/775664373.jpg

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wow.

]

Whoever the cunt is with the cherished collection, they've had a few!

[Voltaire]

Whoever the cunt is with the cherished collection, they've had a few!

Probably a member of KB :laugh:

[F5 Dave]

Under silly questions; Does it run?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1610539568.htm?rsqid=5f6ed324d2b942f8a797dc1d59abb 30e

Yeah sure buddy. I left it outside for a couple of decades with a bunch of parts missing and now it fires off the button just fine.

Besides, it' missing the airbed:shutup:

[pritch]

Not really. I saw a bike on their site and phoned up to buy it. Got some fuckwit who said "Orrrr nuuuuurrrrr maiiiiite uts sold". It wasnt sold I found out later. Cockhead. Lazy and stupid.

Ahh, a suitable candidate for a job at Bluewing. :devil2:

[husaberg]

Ahh Cmon the Internet is quite new and people have to get used to etiquette.
Someone should be along shortly to accuse him of being Hitler.
Its kb so quite a few jerks few solely write posts in adulation of Adolfie.
but shit, that write up on a bike, half of it is about a seat. it would have to be a special seat, much like the $5 shake in pulp fiction.
Someone really needs to find out more about that seat.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Its kb so quite a few jerks few solely write in posts in adulation of Adolfie.
but shit that write up on a bike, half of it is about a seat. it would have to be a special seat, much like the $5 shake in pulp fiction.
Someone really needs to find out more about that seat.

I've had a whisky so its me.

[F5 Dave]

Oh this is vile

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1603309799.htm?rsqid=5f6ed324d2b942f8a797dc1d59abb 30e

Brown seat. Check.
pipe wrap. Check.
painted stuff that is probably corroded badly. Check.
Optimistic price. Double check.

And the thing looks like it is on a queer angle. Like those HQ holders were likened to a great white shark.

[F5 Dave]

These are good bikes. I looked at one but was a bit appliance-like as a main bike but could see the appeal.
now 10 + years old with well over 70,000ks.
I'd say good buying at 6?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1606467723.htm?rsqid=76e0353ed6774e1b89b3650e9a9d2 b5f

[F5 Dave]

These are good bikes. I looked at one a ways back, but was a bit appliance-like as a main bike but could see the appeal.
now 10 + years old with 74,000ks.
I'd say good buying at 6?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1606467723.htm?rsqid=76e0353ed6774e1b89b3650e9a9d2 b5f

[Kickaha]

Wow.

If only the front valve guides didn't fall out when you went thru puddles.

Shouldn't if they're put in right, but shit breaks on them just taking them out of the garage


Whoever the cunt is with the cherished collection, they've had a few!

Yeah there's a 750SS for sale in Germany for 54K euro which would be a better bet and a lot more rare

[jellywrestler]

there's a lot of expensive dukes in one big pile, it's going to be tough for this country to absorb that many at those prices i reckon

[sidecar bob]

there's a lot of expensive dukes in one big pile, it's going to be tough for this country to absorb that many at those prices i reckon

My thoughts exactly. He should have leaked them in slowly, or found an overseas buyer.
A guy that sold him a few of those was at my house over the weekend & told me that at least two so far were sold vastly under their international values.

[jellywrestler]

My thoughts exactly. He should have leaked them in slowly, or found an overseas buyer.
A guy that sold him a few of those was at my house over the weekend & told me that at least two so far were sold vastly under their international values.

we're talking dealers here, entertaining bunch. when I was looking for a honda bros for my kitchen bitch i sat down and rang every dealer from newplymouth across to gisborne and south to wellington. that in itself was simple entertainment, a number just didn't know what one was. so many asked straight away if i'd tried trademe etc
fuck me, if i had a phone call come in i'd be on the computer right in front of me doing my best to identifyone and find one, even on trademe, most had just surrendered if they didn't have one sitting on the shop floor right in front of them

[ojyamaha]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1236576612.htm?rsqid=26cdc200d69c4481acaa89f761a18 d67


ELEVEN GRAND? I mean its cool as shit, and being sold by the most expensive and biggest fuckwit of a dealer in creation. But this must be some sort of record.They never present them well either. You go in there and they are typically dirty and could do with a polish and small things that could be fixed aren't. As they are a premium price you would expect them to be honkydory. Probally why they have rg400's on the floor unsold for over 12 months ay.

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[tigertim20]

yep, last year's used model seems like a bargain at this price
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1599023480.htm?rsqid=0c87ccf56ca54c599daf9d5796747 0cf


As long as you dont want a brand new 2018 one that is

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1606729305.htm?rsqid=747086018c0444bda8f3c606df6d8 a39

[russd7]

Besides, it' missing the airbed:shutup:

could explain the "no Prego" then

[tigertim20]

I reckon its three and a half grand. But I'm a bit stingey on bikes set up for track use.

whatsit worth in full road trim with wof and reg then?

I dont think its worth big bucks, but its gotta be more than 3.5k!!!

this bloke is a bit optimistic though, same model, slightly higher kms, not running, potential electrical issue, but undiagnosed, asking $4.3k
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1605182687.htm?rsqid=ccd7b63241c14a8c875ef2a3f64d2 102

[Honest Andy]

could explain the "no Prego" then

you could try starting it for half and hour and end up with a knee trembling...?

[sidecar bob]

we're talking dealers here, entertaining bunch. when I was looking for a honda bros for my kitchen bitch i sat down and rang every dealer from newplymouth across to gisborne and south to wellington. that in itself was simple entertainment, a number just didn't know what one was. so many asked straight away if i'd tried trademe etc
fuck me, if i had a phone call come in i'd be on the computer right in front of me doing my best to identifyone and find one, even on trademe, most had just surrendered if they didn't have one sitting on the shop floor right in front of them

The motor trade is fucked.
The talent pool is about 2cm deep. Anyone under 40 hasn't got a fuckin clue what's what & how to deal with the simplest situation that doesn't involve selling someone a brand new bike, or part for one.

[ellipsis]

Under silly questions; Does it run?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1610539568.htm?rsqid=5f6ed324d2b942f8a797dc1d59abb 30e

Yeah sure buddy. I left it outside for a couple of decades with a bunch of parts missing and now it fires off the button just fine.

Besides, it' missing the airbed:shutup:

...that would be a good price...if you wanted the turmoil of doing it...I'd have jumped at that thing five years back...I've grown up since then...it took 60 years to get to that point though...I'm gently ridding myself of all that 70's shit that I have had hanging around the shed for too long...I can't be fucked wanting to stay seventeen anymore...I wanna piece of late fifties yank iron with fins...I want to be one, again...

[F5 Dave]

Yes i wanted one until 2 weeks ago when a mate described riding one. But its a pity that an otherwise complete straight bike clearly with some mechanical issue had a few parts removed then lost and was then pushed outside so it became absolutely fucked.
Just a waste and makes a resto uneconomic, you'd be stupid to take it on.
My Stinker was somewhat worse than that.:crazy:

[Drew]

whatsit worth in full road trim with wof and reg then?

I dont think its worth big bucks, but its gotta be more than 3.5k!!!

this bloke is a bit optimistic though, same model, slightly higher kms, not running, potential electrical issue, but undiagnosed, asking $4.3k
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1605182687.htm?rsqid=ccd7b63241c14a8c875ef2a3f64d2 102

This is just my opinion, but that's it I reckon. Its a 14 year old bike. Even though it was the best 600 of the time, its nothing special now.

I've got a buyer for the race fairings though if ya want.

[Voltaire]

The motor trade is fucked.
The talent pool is about 2cm deep. Anyone under 40 hasn't got a fuckin clue what's what & how to deal with the simplest situation that doesn't involve selling someone a brand new bike, or part for one.

You sound like the guy who sent me off for a packet of amps when I was an apprentice?:innocent:

Saying that I do search out the old guys at Bunnings who know what inches are.

[Drew]

You sound like the guy who sent me off for a packet of amps when I was an apprentice?:innocent:

Saying that I do search out the old guys at Bunnings who know what inches are.

And you went?

[F5 Dave]

I think the general rule is that you go missing for a couple of hours then return denying all knowledge of the mission. If pushed claim you were washing the owners car.

[Voltaire]

And you went?

Yeah, but I fooled them and got a long weight at the same time and was gone for hours.:banana:

[Voltaire]

10K is a bit much for a wall hanging.:rolleyes:
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/777281732.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1612575620.htm?rsqid=bea65a246e9c430bb110cd0d78340 8c7

[AllanB]

10K is a bit much for a wall hanging.:rolleyes:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1612575620.htm?rsqid=bea65a246e9c430bb110cd0d78340 8c7


Agree about the price.

But it is cool as F. I dig those old little bikes. Mike Pero has a motorcycle museum in CHCH and one of my favorite bikes in the collection is a little Honda.

Hey - if that is hanging on his wall as art I wonder what is in the garage as a rider..... could be some cool shit.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Old mate is back.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1611879676.htm?rsqid=20a8a6a28fd74e9b841f6bb4d80b0 b36

[rustys]

I know you want it Pete.......

[jasonu]

Old mate is back.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1611879676.htm?rsqid=20a8a6a28fd74e9b841f6bb4d80b0 b36

What a fucking homo.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What a fucking homo.

Especially when you consider the tosser reckons he's been offered 30k for it. Tui!!!If you didn't sell ya XR500 for 30k, you'd want bumming.

[AllanB]

Old mate is back.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1611879676.htm?rsqid=20a8a6a28fd74e9b841f6bb4d80b0 b36



Something weird about that trader.

I think the 'offers' in a earlier set of comments were piss-takes at his $10k original asking price.

Maybe his partner has said it must go and he wants to keep it - so over price it and act like a dickhead on the advert.