Optimistic sellers

[Banditbandit]

What's going on here?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1290597630.htm

I like it - a small custom bike

The price is over the top ..

(Oh yeah .. and it won't be a LAMS bike ... the seller doesn't claim it is, but I doubt many prospective buyers know it is not .. )

[Scubbo]

you could just buy a new suzuki van van 200 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1275806709.htm)--- cheaper and road legal with the same-ish look

[pzkpfw]

$9k and not registered. He's hardly ridden it - surely getting it legal has been the trouble?


This is a custom bike built for me just recently, only had it for a month now and have only had the chance to ride it a few times.

... selling within a month when custom built for him?

[jasonu]

What's going on here?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1290597630.htm

I like it
for $1500

[F5 Dave]

This looks already registered. OK its $500 more expensive but the rego plate alone makes up for that. Resale value?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1286138290.htm

[Ocean1]

This looks already registered. OK its $500 more expensive but the rego plate alone makes up for that. Resale value?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1286138290.htm

Lovely engine. Nice bike.

For those with a cog below their arsehole.

Seriously, if you're anywhere over 4' 9" you can't stay on the fuckers under brakes or gas.

[mossy1200]

What's going on here?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1290597630.htm

This bike has not been to get a VIN, so is not road legal as of yet. This must be why its only 9k. It does not have tail lights, indicators,mirror on right side, chain guard or a front guard that would pass so I would be thinking road legal could include an unknown amount of monies. Likely going to need controls, switches, relays, rewire and countless other bits to comply. If this guy paid someone about 9k to have it made he didnt get a lot for his money either.

[F5 Dave]

Is it fit for porpoise?

[YellowDog]

What's going on here?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1290597630.htm

This one has to be one of the worst to date :lol:

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1292818159.htm

Is this for real?

[F5 Dave]

Sadly yes. Its been slated on Facebook apparently for a month. You can spend that much if you pay someone to do everything and keep every receipt. Expecting to get back everything you spent like some sort of investment, or even more tragically because you need a set amount of money is just missing the point.

My bike would of course slaughter this. I wouldn't get 1/2 that asking.

[Drew]

Sadly...

My bike would of course slaughter this. I wouldn't get 1/2 that asking.

There might be added value in not needing to rebuild the engine on his FXR every race.

[roogazza]

This one has to be one of the worst to date :lol:

The prices asked on this page for piles of shit are totally alien to me.Its almost like we've bred a group that have nothing to do with motorcycling, (or motorcycling the way we grew into it).
Wonder if they actually ever manage to sell this shit ? :facepalm:

[Rcktfsh]

Is it fit for porpoise?

Probably not as it doesn't appear to be marinised.

[F5 Dave]

The prices asked on this page for piles of shit are totally alien to me.Its almost like we've bred a group that have nothing to do with motorcycling, (or motorcycling the way we grew into it).
Wonder if they actually ever manage to sell this shit ? :facepalm:
Just check back on tardme in several months time.

[jasonu]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1292818159.htm

Is this for real?

Prolly what was spent on it.

[Drew]

Prolly what was spent on it.

If anyone is prepared to spend that on a bucket in one hit, they're a fucken moron. I appreciate that a bike will end up having that spent on it of course.

That money would buy a real race bike and pay for a whole season of club racing. Shit, even in F2!

[jellywrestler]

Prolly what was spent on it.

one doesn't see superbikes sold at their build cost...

[AllanB]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1292818159.htm

Is this for real?

Bloody nice trailer though. Hmm - say $2k for the trailer.

[AllanB]

Prolly what was spent on it.

Is it like a $50 blowjob compared to a $500 one?

[jellywrestler]

Is it like a $50 blowjob compared to a $500 one?

where do you get them for fiddy?

[Drew]

Bloody nice trailer though. Hmm - say $2k for the trailer.

I'll build and sell ya one for $2k!

[F5 Dave]

I'm trying to imagine what a $500 BJ would be like. I mean I like them but not $500s worth. Drew would do it for $70 I'm sure.
But I'm still not buying.

[F5 Dave]

Oh fuk off

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1291064858.htm

[F5 Dave]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1285316612.htm.
Iconic bik. . . . oh wait, no as you were

[F5 Dave]

Shit somebody and his mate were drunk 3 days back and will be regretting it in 1\2 an hr

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1287142962.htm

[Grumph]

Shit somebody and his mate were drunk 3 days back and will be regretting it in 1\2 an hr

Nikasiled bore ? Really ?

[AllanB]

I'm trying to imagine what a $500 BJ would be like. I mean I like them but not $500s worth. Drew would do it for $70 I'm sure.
But I'm still not buying.

Drained of body fluids but smiling

[AllanB]

Oh fuk off

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1291064858.htm

How did it get a two year WOF?

Hmmm $3k. I don't know if that is OK. Someone will pay that probably for a slice of memory lane (possible a first bike they owned).

[mossy1200]

How did it get a two year WOF?

Hmmm $3k. I don't know if that is OK. Someone will pay that probably for a slice of memory lane (possible a first bike they owned).

I would have fun riding around the bays on it. Maybe only 2k worth of fun though. It is pretty.

[F5 Dave]

Geez I remember those as a plastic play bike. Neither a real dirtbike nor anything else. And squat at the back.

[mossy1200]

Drained of body fluids but smiling

My wife has sucked the life out of me but I think its cost me a lot more than 500. Im that spasticated now that I am still smiling.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Oh fuk off

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1291064858.htm

I owned one back in the day. Yeah nah

[mossy1200]

I owned one back in the day. Yeah nah

Back in the day you tried ride it like it was a IT490. Now your approach might be different.

[jasonu]

where do you get them for fiddy?

From yo momma....:msn-wink:

[jellywrestler]

Geez I remember those as a plastic play bike. Neither a real dirtbike nor anything else. And squat at the back.

and that's possibly why they'll get their price, they were popular at the time and rare as fuck nowadays

[F5 Dave]

The car I was allowed to drive as a young-un was a white 5 door fiord laser. There were lots of them. I don't ever see that becoming a classic.

[MENTAL490]

The car I was allowed to drive as a young-un was a white 5 door fiord laser. There were lots of them. I don't ever see that becoming a classic.

for sure i had the 3 dr sport, it took a hell of a beating, it was the rust that killed it in the end. But in saying that my first car was a toyota corolla 3dr wagon (ke30) with the good old ke30, when my dad was away I worked the hell out of the engine, put a cam in so it wouldnt idle under 2500 rpm. Got nicked 3 days after moving to welly. I never though those would ever be worth much....same with the rg400, if i only knew....

[jellywrestler]

The car I was allowed to drive as a young-un was a white 5 door fiord laser. There were lots of them. I don't ever see that becoming a classic.

you mean like the morris minor and army indians?

[Dadpole]

In a world where a Lada has become a classic, anything can be a classic

[AllanB]

In a world where a Lada has become a classic, anything can be a classic

This is true. Bread and butter little Japanese, Italian etc commuters from decades back are now very collectible.

[roogazza]

In a world where a Lada has become a classic, anything can be a classic
Fuck it, I'm going out to buy a Vauxhall Velox !! NOT !

Actually I was thinking yesterday as I blasted past your place yesterday morn. Why would I ever want to ride something from the 70's when I have this ? I'm a modern ''Milly'' !!!!! :rolleyes:

[Dadpole]

Why would I ever want to ride something from the 70's when I have this ? I'm a modern ''Milly'' !!!!! :rolleyes:

Don't ask me. I just picked up a '77 Honda XL250. :wacko:

[F5 Dave]

you mean like the morris minor and army indians?
OK you might have me there.

[Pound]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1294000268.htm

I like this line............


"Buyer has to satisfy himself before buying."


Isn't that illegal in public places? :sweatdrop

[Voltaire]

you mean like the morris minor and army indians?

Can yo think of any two more horrible examples. Side valves yuk.

[jellywrestler]

Can yo think of any two more horrible examples. Side valves yuk.

no, but look at their 'desirability' now

[HenryDorsetCase]

Can yo think of any two more horrible examples. Side valves yuk.

Morris Minor. My first car. Had a van, and the uber-desirable Morris Traveller (Woody). I would consider another because I could do the woodwork myself - its English Ash and it rots in our climate - plus its 40 y.o. Oak apparently or er, something. I thought about laminating up some marine ply - I reckon that would look good plus you could do it with hand tools in your garage.

[Grumph]

Morris Minor. My first car. Had a van, and the uber-desirable Morris Traveller (Woody). I would consider another because I could do the woodwork myself - its English Ash and it rots in our climate - plus its 40 y.o. Oak apparently or er, something. I thought about laminating up some marine ply - I reckon that would look good plus you could do it with hand tools in your garage.

The rivet counters would lynch you....The ChCh group who've put better (as defined by reliability criteria...) engines in them, are social pariahs to the VCC.

[Voltaire]

Morris Minor. My first car. Had a van, and the uber-desirable Morris Traveller (Woody). I would consider another because I could do the woodwork myself - its English Ash and it rots in our climate - plus its 40 y.o. Oak apparently or er, something. I thought about laminating up some marine ply - I reckon that would look good plus you could do it with hand tools in your garage.

Uber-desirable in my circles was a VW Kharman Ghia or a split window Beetle, we used to laugh at Morris Minors :lol:

My view of Briddish cars is probably tainted by driving lessions in a Morris/Austin 1300 and driving my Dads A60 ute. Mum's V8 Holden Premier was somewhat cooler to my 15-17 year old eyes....despite it being Orchid ( metalic purple)

[AllanB]

The car I was allowed to drive as a young-un was a white 5 door fiord laser. There were lots of them. I don't ever see that becoming a classic.

I was looking around Turners car auctions today. There is a Lazer S model in there - rather ratty example but all there (not all attached) - it is featuring in their next classic car auction.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1294000268.htm

I like this line............


"Buyer has to satisfy himself before buying."


Isn't that illegal in public places? :sweatdrop

I think if you could get that for 600 or close could make a great entry level bucket racer.

[F5 Dave]

Or five hundred but you have to satisfy yourself twice and there's time pressure.

[pritch]

Hope you'll pardon my post? (And in mitigation may I mention that y'all have been talking cars?)

A lot of the photos in this thread just make me think, "Why?".

This provoked a similar response.

[Drew]

Hope you'll pardon my post? (And in mitigation may I mention that y'all have been talking cars?)

A lot of the photos in this thread just make me think, "Why?".

This provoked a similar response.
I met a guy in Aukland some years ago who has a genuine matching numbers GT500 Mustang....that he put a big block with a blower that'll replace the air volume of a 747 hanger every thirty seconds obscuring the view through the front window.

Why? It's my car, I'll do whatever the fuck I like.

[Grumph]

I met a guy in Aukland some years ago who has a genuine matching numbers GT500 Mustang....that he put a big block with a blower that'll replace the air volume of a 747 hanger every thirty seconds obscuring the view through the front window.

Why? It's my car, I'll do whatever the fuck I like.

Quite so. I used to work with the wife of a guy who has a very early Falcon GT - VERY early...
It went through several incarnations incl a blower and bigger motors as you do.

Last time I saw it, it was absolutely original. Original engine and box back in it, right paint and trim...

What goes around can come around.

[Voltaire]

Quite so. I used to work with the wife of a guy who has a very early Falcon GT - VERY early...
It went through several incarnations incl a blower and bigger motors as you do.

Last time I saw it, it was absolutely original. Original engine and box back in it, right paint and trim...

What goes around can come around.

Note to self: buy all the sidecovers,fenders, guages, seats etc on Trade Me for 70's and 80's bikes for the inevitable de-cafe and why-bobbers in 10 years time :laugh:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Uber-desirable in my circles was a VW Kharman Ghia or a split window Beetle, we used to laugh at Morris Minors :lol:

My view of Briddish cars is probably tainted by driving lessions in a Morris/Austin 1300 and driving my Dads A60 ute. Mum's V8 Holden Premier was somewhat cooler to my 15-17 year old eyes....despite it being Orchid ( metalic purple)

I learned to drive my my Dad's P & J : a 1973 HQ Kingswood in that metallic brown. Bench seat covered in actual vinyl. fantastic

[jellywrestler]

Note to self: buy all the sidecovers,fenders, guages, seats etc on Trade Me for 70's and 80's bikes for the inevitable de-cafe and why-bobbers in 10 years time :laugh:

same with original pipes and centrestands in the old days.

[pritch]

I met a guy in Aukland some years ago who has a genuine matching numbers GT500 Mustang....that he put a big block with a blower that'll replace the air volume of a 747 hanger every thirty seconds obscuring the view through the front window.


Guy I knew brought back a Shelby Cobra with full size pre politically correct engine. He didn't have a big blower but it wouldn't have made much difference, the car was LH drive and you couldn't see shit anyway. All that power and you couldn't overtake grandma in her Morris Oxford.

[awayatc]

Problematic. ....

Look it up!

[Rcktfsh]

How not to sell 101.....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/1294645122

[OddDuck]

How not to sell 101.....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/1294645122

That's a stunner. The Q&A is worth a look through.

[Mike.Gayner]

How not to sell 101.....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/1294645122

Here's another non-motorcycle related ad in the same theme.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1294807216

[Rcktfsh]

Here's another non-motorcycle related ad in the same theme.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1294807216

The minimalist approach.

[YellowDog]

The minimalist approach.

Nice leaker. And they want over the CV value for it - lol

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1300256175.htm

Yep. Expensive

[rambaldi]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1300256175.htm

Yep. Expensive

At least they seem to know how to take a nice photograph.

[Mike.Gayner]

Perhaps he fat-fingered and pressed the 4 and 1 keys on his keypad at the same time. Which begs the question, should it be $4,500 or $1,500?

[Grumph]

Yep. Expensive

The crank is probably fucked. Most of those hours would have been spent sitting looking at it drinking piss. No stand.....
And it's bloody ugly.

(FYI - 450's go through the hardening on the mainshafts of the crank where the roller mains run direct on the crank. OR they wear the ID of the big ends on the rods...Try and find a good one, go on.....)

[husaberg]

The crank is probably fucked. Most of those hours would have been spent sitting looking at it drinking piss. No stand.....
And it's bloody ugly.

(FYI - 450's go through the hardening on the mainshafts of the crank where the roller mains run direct on the crank. OR they wear the ID of the big ends on the rods...Try and find a good one, go on.....)

How chunky are those 450 Cranks Greg, i know the 350 (325) ones are heavier then an Yam XS650 one.
Its a shame they never designed either with a separate crankpin.

[Banditbandit]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1300256175.htm

Yep. Expensive

he also has this for sale ...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1300225127.htm

Wants 27grand - even more expensive ..

[F5 Dave]

At least that's a classic. Looks good and will appreciate. Can't imagine wanting to spend that on a tractor but you can understand someone might. The CB is only slightly more attractive than leprosy.

[Dadpole]

And, for a mere 27 thousand, will be throwing in a tank of 95 fuel for free

[jellywrestler]

At least they seem to know how to take a nice photograph.

you're joking right, the pics might look good on a birthday card but for someone buying they're not worth a cunt full of cold snow.

[5150]

you're joking right, the pics might look good on a birthday card but for someone buying they're not worth a cunt full of cold snow.

Never personaly seen cunt full of cold snow before. Can you please post a picture for reference? :confused:

[mossy1200]

Never personaly seen cunt full of cold snow before. Can you please post a picture for reference? :confused:

How did you think popsicles were made?

[jellywrestler]

How did you think popsicles were made?

every 28 days....

[jasonu]

every 28 days....

Bloodberry flavor....

[FlangMasterJ]

And it's bloody ugly.

Gotta disagree there. Looks great to me. $14500? Hell to the no.

[babysteps]

Ummmmmmm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1241976397.htm

[F5 Dave]

That would be a sad waste if, well, if it was a decent bike. A motorcycle for a non motorcyclist.

Why is the front tyre not a whitewall? Its such a glaring omission that it's inexcusable.

[Paul in NZ]

Look I reall don't expect people to slavishly restore an old brit bike to factory perfection as there are loads of tasteful specials out there... BUT then theres this...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1301609782.htm

OMG - needs to be bought just to put it out of its misery but sadly that's about what a good standard one would go for...

[OddDuck]

Look I reall don't expect people to slavishly restore an old brit bike to factory perfection as there are loads of tasteful specials out there... BUT then theres this...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1301609782.htm

OMG - needs to be bought just to put it out of its misery but sadly that's about what a good standard one would go for...

That's horrible, perhaps the 'restorer' has issues with colour perception... aside from the motor it's got the same colour scheme as a Buzzy Bee!

Fuck it. Go the whole hog. Add feelers.

[Voltaire]

Look I reall don't expect people to slavishly restore an old brit bike to factory perfection as there are loads of tasteful specials out there... BUT then theres this...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1301609782.htm

OMG - needs to be bought just to put it out of its misery but sadly that's about what a good standard one would go for...

Well on the upside at least its not languishing in some old blokes shed waiting for him to die before escaping.

[swarfie]

Well on the upside at least its not languishing in some old blokes shed waiting for him to die before escaping.

I know the old geezer that created that abomination. No name mentioned but he is well known in classic racing, and has seriously sponsored some good riders including Dr Rodger Freeth. Built some good shit in times gone by but the last few years he's completely lost the plot....especially with that POS :crazy:

[5150]

I know the old geezer that created that abomination. No name mentioned but he is well known in classic racing, and has seriously sponsored some good riders including Dr Rodger Freeth. Built some good shit in times gone by but the last few years he's completely lost the plot....especially with that POS :crazy:

Maybe, just maybe you want to tell him that it's time to stop and retire from bike building :laugh:

[EJK]

Ummmmmmm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1241976397.htm

We have a winner! With that money I could buy a 2nd hand S1000RR.

[pritch]

but the last few years he's completely lost the plot....especially with that POS :crazy:

I have no idea of whom you speak but you'll get argument from me. It hurts my eyes - and not just because my first bike was an AJS.

[Moi]

We have a winner! With that money I could buy a 2nd hand S1000RR.

But, but, but... it's a piece of art...


and beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

http://www.stylehasnosize.com/wp-content/uploads/MissPiggy31.jpg

[F5 Dave]

Selling on behalf of a mate. . Because he was scared of the abuse

Can't be bothered finding it (thats what we have husi for ) but reminds me of old cartoon of person knocking on a door. . Are you the person advertising the chopped Vincent? (Lynch mob hidden around the corner)

[EJK]

But, but, but... it's a piece of art...


and beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

That's something only fat people would say.

[Voltaire]

I know the old geezer that created that abomination. No name mentioned but he is well known in classic racing, and has seriously sponsored some good riders including Dr Rodger Freeth. Built some good shit in times gone by but the last few years he's completely lost the plot....especially with that POS :crazy:

looks like he/kids are having a clear out..

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/578866255.jpg

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/578859956.jpg

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/578868782.jpg

[Grumph]

The single is the only one that interests me. The 750 Triton needs a link taken out of the primary chain to get the gearbox into position - and there's something odd about the front fork offset too.
The 500 triton has what looks like a Yamaha TD/TR rear hub...rare shit now.

If I ever produce something like the 650 twin, I'll expect a KB execution squad....and welcome it.

[pritch]

The single is the only one that interests me. .

I find all three appeal much more than the idiocy we normally come across in this thread. At first I too preferred the Matchless, but it appears to be a chopped road bike (as was common) rather than a CS model so I've gone off that.

Good, I can save my money.

[Voltaire]

I find all three appeal much more than the idiocy we normally come across in this thread. At first I too preferred the Matchless, but it appears to be a chopped road bike (as was common) rather than a CS model so I've gone off that.

Good, I can save my money.

They are also missing the essential ingredients of cool:
Brown seat
Exhaust wrap
Digital speedo
Jailbar rear light on sideways plate
Cut down guards

I'll think of more after my beard wax and Parrot Dog Bitterbitch IPA

[WNJ]

$80000. :eek5: https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/182879-Ducati-1098S

[Laava]

Actually is only $8000, must be a typo. I see that Axehole(number8) has given his usual abuse to a first time poster.

[Mike.Gayner]

To be fair, first time posters should be prohibited form buy/sell. It's pretty obnoxious joining a community for the sole purpose of selling your shit.

[mossy1200]

To be fair, first time posters should be prohibited form buy/sell. It's pretty obnoxious joining a community for the sole purpose of selling your shit.

This and add join to complain about someone that sold them something.

[F5 Dave]

Thing is about old Brit nails; I can't imagine how they ever got this untouchable reputation for handling. All the frames had enormous unsupported bends in them. I was helping with a Goldie on the dyno and was surprised at the flattened framerail bottom right. That was the best bodge they could think of? And of course the suspension was cruder than a crude thing.
Maybe I missed the early Jap bikes and came in aircooled RDs and GS550s, but sheesh!

[Grumph]

Thing is about old Brit nails; I can't imagine how they ever got this untouchable reputation for handling. All the frames had enormous unsupported bends in them. I was helping with a Goldie on the dyno and was surprised at the flattened framerail bottom right. That was the best bodge they could think of? And of course the suspension was cruder than a crude thing.
Maybe I missed the early Jap bikes and came in aircooled RDs and GS550s, but sheesh!

Weeeellll.....The better brit stuff - the Nortons and goldies actually did handle pretty well. particularly compared to the early jap products.
I can only put it down to many years of developing basically the same thing to the last degree - because you couldn't afford to build anything else...
A straight Norton frame handles well - power on or off. A BSA handles well with the power on, but don't shut off....
Don't forget Dave, tyres weren't much cop so the loads going into the frame were not anywhere near what we have now.

In the early days of the Classic Register, I ran a Domiracer and took Kirby's advice on rubber. Fitted the sticky Michelins he was proddy racing on at the time.
The extra grip was - interesting....If you were trying hard, front end patter going into the Ruapuna sweeper, then power on hard and the rear weaved...
Not many years earlier my good manx on triangulars could be drifted around the same corner.

[Intruder VS]

WTF 7k says he needs the money soon for his big OE, hope he's not needing it to soon!!!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1303765263.htm

[pritch]

Thing is about old Brit nails; I can't imagine how they ever got this untouchable reputation for handling. !

In my totally unqualified opinion it was probably because they didn't have enough horsepower to highlite the deficiencies of their frames. MV Agusta, Honda and others reportedly had handling problems. They were using the same primitive frame technology as the Poms but their frames had to deal with a lot more ponies.

That and a somewhat unrealistic nostalgia when looking at the past through rose, white, and blue, tinted glasses.

[Grumph]

In my totally unqualified opinion it was probably because they didn't have enough horsepower to highlite the deficiencies of their frames. MV Agusta, Honda and others reportedly had handling problems. They were using the same primitive frame technology as the Poms but their frames had to deal with a lot more ponies.

That and a somewhat unrealistic nostalgia when looking at the past through rose, white, and blue, tinted glasses.

Very possibly - but I'd point out lap speeds in the IOM. 103mph on 50HP - and 130 odd now. 30% faster on four times the power with road improvements too...

[pritch]

Very possibly - but I'd point out lap speeds in the IOM. 103mph on 50HP - and 130 odd now. 30% faster on four times the power with road improvements too...

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. At 40 to fifty odd bhp the Manx and its frame seem to have been a match. The current bikes with vastly more horse power and their much more advanced frames seem matched too. (Although looking at some of those IoM video clips might make you wonder.)

I don't think it follows that four times the power could be expected to reduce the lap times to 25% of what they had been previously.

[Voltaire]

As a rather mediocre classic racer I'm amazed how well some of them 'old nails' go.

I did swap my BMW for a few laps round Taupo on my mates Triumph T140 and the difference between a light Brit and a German touring bike was very obvious.

The BMW was called the " rubber cow" when it came out, but can't say I've ever noticed it.

[mossy1200]

WTF 7k says he needs the money soon for his big OE, hope he's not needing it to soon!!!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1303765263.htm

I think he needs plan a South Island trip. It should fetch him a ferry ticket and bus to Oamaru plus couple of nights at a backbackers. Maybe even some hot chips and burger at Jumbos. Freedom camping is an option.

[F5 Dave]

Well technically it is 'overseas'. I was going to suggest Melbourne, I mean, I assume he has some other money, like what Dad gave him.

[Ocean1]

Well technically it is 'overseas'. I was going to suggest Melbourne, I mean, I assume he has some other money, like what Dad gave him.

I think Cook straight qualifies. I suspect it'll have to.

He might have to hitch to Welly but...

[mossy1200]

I actually think that is the largest optimist that this thread has uncovered.

[jafar]

WTF 7k says he needs the money soon for his big OE, hope he's not needing it to soon!!!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1303765263.htm


As they are selling brand new ones for $8,000 including ORC
I guess is isn't that serious about selling it :devil2:

[caseye]

Oi! jafar, front an centre this bloody Thursday night, Old guy will be there ( aye john!) an if yer lucky ol Sharper might put in another rare cameo show.

[husaberg]

WTF 7k says he needs the money soon for his big OE, hope he's not needing it to soon!!!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1303765263.htm

$1500 for the bike the $5500 for the patina.......

[riffer]

Well this guy is definitely optimistic.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1296076420.htm

Paint the tank and side covers primer grey, pull the tank badges off, pull the handlebars back and you have a bobber eh?

And only $150 cheaper than a brand new one.

No expense spared. Well, except for the WOF and Rego thing...

Sigh...

[riffer]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1275500515.htm

Mwahahahahahahaha.....

nope.

[riffer]

On the other hand, I think this is a bit pricey, but I think it's really quite nicely done. Possibly worth it, but limited market.

What do you guys think?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1304408798.htm

[Scubbo]

nah just buy a new W800 ~_~

[OddDuck]

On the other hand, I think this is a bit pricey, but I think it's really quite nicely done. Possibly worth it, but limited market.

What do you guys think?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1304408798.htm

It's rather well done. Refreshing lack of pipe wrap. Sane clipon position for real world riding.

I did look twice at the remote reservoir for the front brake... a bit of hose with a cap screw and about 3 cc capacity, flapping around in the breeze? Really? And I'd have to ask if he's retuned / rejetted the carbs.

Otherwise, I like it.

[jafagsx250]

Oi! jafar, front an centre this bloody Thursday night, Old guy will be there ( aye john!) an if yer lucky ol Sharper might put in another rare cameo show.
If it's not raining I'll come. Haven't been for a ride in a while.

[jafar]

On the other hand, I think this is a bit pricey, but I think it's really quite nicely done. Possibly worth it, but limited market.

What do you guys think?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1304408798.htm

Spectrum have a BRAND NEW one for $1,000 less !!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1133003732.htm
:baby:

[jafar]

Oi! jafar, front an centre this bloody Thursday night, Old guy will be there ( aye john!) an if yer lucky ol Sharper might put in another rare cameo show.

It'll be wether dependant, wether I take the scooter to work or I take the jamjar ;)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Spectrum have a BRAND NEW one for $1,000 less !!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1133003732.htm
:baby:

Totally diff bike.

[riffer]

Totally diff bike.

Yeah. To be honest, it looks probably the best of all the current ones I've seen.

[AllanB]

Now it is already collectible, but, shit the bed - how the other half live aye. Still better than a OCC theme chopper :lol:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1301705306.htm

[Askor]

Well this guy is definitely optimistic.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1296076420.htm

Paint the tank and side covers primer grey, pull the tank badges off, pull the handlebars back and you have a bobber eh?

And only $150 cheaper than a brand new one.

No expense spared. Well, except for the WOF and Rego thing...

Sigh...

Every time I see black electrical tape in a cross over headlights, I gag a little

[mossy1200]

Every time I see black electrical tape in a cross over headlights, I gag a little

Its to light up a target spot on the back wall of the garage. You ride into it until the fork angle gets steeper.

[F5 Dave]

Every time I see black electrical tape in a cross over headlights, I gag a little

Too young to remember Wendy O'Williams from the Plasmatics I guess? Google images.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Too young to remember Wendy O'Williams from the Plasmatics I guess? Google images.

Is this *her*?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1304655624.htm

[jasonu]

Is this *her*?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1304655624.htm

Ha, looks like Trustrum has finally let himself go...

[F5 Dave]

Here ya go ya arse plumbers. Black electrical tape across the headlights.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The Plasmatics were a terrible band. There, I said it. Wendy O Williams had some nice tits back in the day though, I'll give you that.

I was wondering if sticking the tape on then ripping it off would give any sexual pleasure. I've just tried it on myself and can report no.

[Zedder]

The Plasmatics were a terrible band. There, I said it. Wendy O Williams had some nice tits back in the day though, I'll give you that.

I was wondering if sticking the tape on then ripping it off would give any sexual pleasure. I've just tried it on myself and can report no.


Haha, love the experimentation. O'Williams was damned sexy.

[F5 Dave]

All punk bands were a bit terrible except the Stranglers, but it didn't matter, it was an antidote to the even worse music of the time. The Beegees, Abba, anything to do with paulfuking McCartney, RodSpewup, PaulSimon and whatever his faggy mate was. :headbang: I owned some really bad music. Only the Stranglers and Siouxsie gets a repeat now.

[Laava]

All punk bands were a bit terrible except the Stranglers :headbang:

The damned, the clash, stiff little fingers, generation x and others are superb bands, then and now in most cases. I have seen the stranglers live twice and absolutely vouch for them too. Much as I like John Lydon, the sex pistols were pretty rough musically...
Hey! WTF! This is Optimistic sellers!

[F5 Dave]

Hahahaha. Buy yourself a lawyers midlife crisis (no offence to hdc) with all the tassels included for a ridiculous price.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1305756302.htm

[F5 Dave]

I did think the Clash, Wire, Buzcocks, but I just don't listen to them really.

[F5 Dave]

So this fool admits to paying 5k for this (probably no longer) rolling POS!


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1296219860.htm

I think I'd move overseas to get away from it.

[F5 Dave]

1981 I was a 13yr old from a good family in suburbia with a tough taste in music. I was about as hard as HughHefner without Viagra.:lol:

[F5 Dave]

Spot this unholy mashup!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1300846374.htm

No mention of an LVV for the 25% increase in engine size, and those headlights don't look legal. The whole thing is a confused taste crime.

[husaberg]

1981 I was a 13yr old from a good family in suburbia with a tough taste in music. I was about as hard as HughHefner without Viagra.:lol:

I think i just about nearly became incontinent......:innocent:

[HenryDorsetCase]

All punk bands were a bit terrible except the Stranglers, but it didn't matter, it was an antidote to the even worse music of the time. The Beegees, Abba, anything to do with paulfuking McCartney, RodSpewup, PaulSimon and whatever his faggy mate was. :headbang: I owned some really bad music. Only the Stranglers and Siouxsie gets a repeat now.

depending on your definition of "punk" - :punk: But as a bit of a history lesson the first punk band might have been the Velvet Underground. Or the Stooges, or the MC5. They (with others) were the nucleus of that east coast underground music scene which gave birth in the early 1970's to bands like the New York Dolls and later Television, Blondie, The Ramones, Talking Heads, Jim Carroll etc.

Punk as you're thinking of it, started in the UK started pretty much when Malcolm McLaren toured the New York Dolls there but there was a nascent scene there ready to explode: the "times" created an environment that just needed a spark. And it was provided by the Sex Pistols, without question. I often think if I could travel back in time I would go back to London c 1975 1976 and seek out those early shows. If you listen to tapes of them the band were actually pretty good. Decent rhythm section in Cook and Matlock, not a terrible guitarist (on a guitar stolen from Mick Ronson!) in Steve Jones, and Mr Lydon snarling over the top and talking about stuff that was definitely not on the BBC approved list.

What ruined it pretty much was it getting popular and them getting on national TV with Grundy and cue moral outrage.

Bands like The Clash and all the rest of that scene were slightly later though I would argue the Clash were at least as important as the Pistols.

the Stranglers were never a punk band though they did produce some decent albums - Rattus Norvegicus in particular, and I still enjoy "Live X Certificcate". I dont like the later stuff and detest shit like "Golden Brown".

That era (roughly 1966- 1978) is my favourite era in music from both sides of the Atlantic.

Listen to the Pistols again, and the Clash because that is some timeless quality rock and roll that sounds as fresh and angry now as it did in 1979-1980 when I first heard it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Only the Stranglers and Siouxsie gets a repeat now.

Saw Siouxsie at The Old Town Hall back in the day. Robert Smith was playing for them...so double whammy really. Saw The Stranglers last year. They were fucking awesome, and they're coming back again next year.

[F5 Dave]

Couldn't afford that concert but I hear she sconed some skinhead with her mic.

Watched filth and the fury last week on the tube, pistols own take on the era. A revolution and they only had about 3 decent songs. All their albums were largely the same songs.

[Drew]

I always thought punk was just people bitching about society with no musical talent.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I always thought punk was just people bitching about society with no musical talent.

I thought that was thrash metal? :innocent:

Get this into ya.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Couldn't afford that concert but I hear she sconed some skinhead with her mic.

.

She certainly did. Well deserved too.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Couldn't afford that concert but I hear she sconed some skinhead with her mic.

Watched filth and the fury last week on the tube, pistols own take on the era. A revolution and they only had about 3 decent songs. All their albums were largely the same songs.

Not that I am a Pistols nerd at all but........

The Pistols had ONE album - Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols. It was recorded nominally by the Cook - Jones - Vicious - Lydon lineup but in fact because Sid could not play bass really Steve Jones did most of the arrangements with the engineer and also did the bass parts on the album.

Any other Pistols album was demos, terrible live recordings, and outtakes plus a few tracks put together by Malcolm with Cook and Jones but not Lydon - notably the stuff with Ronnie Biggs and like that.

basically because of the fuckery with record labels (they wrote a song about it...) by the time they got to record, it was with the far inferior later lineup. Apparently because Sid was so terrible on the bass they used to unplug him or just turn him down in the mix and turn Steve up.

If you can track it down there's a good live record in "Live at Chelmsford Prison" which is a decent snapshot of the band.

Recommended further reading: "Lonely Boy" by Steve Jones, "Rotten" by John Lydon, and the book with the pink cover whose name escapes me right now.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I always thought punk was just people bitching about society with no musical talent.

No, but thanks for playing.

[Ocean1]

I always thought punk was just people bitching about society with no musical talent.

Pretty much describes music for teenagers since Adam was an ant.

'Cept Pink FLoyd. Dem's the real deal.

[F5 Dave]

I was late to the party due to age and bought the 1980 cynically titled Flogging a dead horse. Some of was awesome. Some of it was clearly filler made up at the time.

Got distracted by the Dead Kennedys along the way even if they were hated Americans -we all still had some misguided alliance to the motherland. My mate still laughs about me trying to order single Too drunk to Fuck from Chelsea records, of course the prettiest girl had to be serving at the time.

Sound track of my youth that was. . . Or more correctly Not given the opportunity to Fuck.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I was late to the party due to age and bought the 1980 cynically titled Flogging a dead horse. Some of was awesome. Some of it was clearly filler made up at the time.

Got distracted by the Dead Kennedys along the way even if they were hated Americans -we all still had some misguided alliance to the motherland. My mate still laughs about me trying to order single Too drunk to Fuck from Chelsea records, of course the prettiest girl had to be serving at the time.

Sound track of my youth that was. . . Or more correctly Not given the opportunity to Fuck.

LOL yup. That's a band with an interesting and chequered history. That SF hardcore scene of which they were pioneers produced some stellar stuff.

Pity that the (im)Moral Majority in Mrka fucked the DK's over - just because they called an album "Frankenchrist" - so much for the land of the free and the home of the brave!

[jasonu]

Watched filth and the fury last week on the tube, pistols own take on the era. A revolution and they only had about 3 decent songs. All their albums were largely the same songs.

Yep and they managed to make a lifetime living out of it.

[Drew]

I would rate hip hop much much higher than punk.

[Grumph]

I would rate hip hop much much higher than punk.

I no longer know you.....

[F5 Dave]

I would rate hip hop much much higher than punk.
And that surprises no one.:yawn:

[husaberg]

I would rate hip hop much much higher than punk.

Punk is 4 cords of human angst.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EEPvXlTUnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoYiQ8Qsozk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwAtifCoB3I

[Drew]

One of my all time favourite tracks.

https://youtu.be/fGx6K90TmCI

[Crasherfromwayback]

I would rate hip hop much much higher than punk.

And that's simply because you lack the ability to like anything other than an incredibly narrow range of music.

[Drew]

And that's simply because you lack the ability to like anything other than an incredibly narrow range of music.

That's rather presumptuous, and pretty inaccurate.

[GrayWolf]

That's rather presumptuous, and pretty inaccurate.

https://img.memesuper.com/1caf871cbf99c132af07d92c4c88e6fa_-throw-up-ghetto-gang-signs-meme-gang-signs_430-430.jpeg

[husaberg]

One of my all time favourite tracks.

https://youtu.be/fGx6K90TmCI

You are lucky unstuck isn't arround at the moment
He would tear you a new one.
He lived in Gore ya know...........

Last day in gorrre.:headbang::headbang:

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's rather presumptuous, and pretty inaccurate.

So, much like your post regarding punk then?

[Drew]

So, much like your post regarding punk then?

Not so. My post about punk quite clearly said that it was my own view. I didn't try and label it at all.

[Stylo]

Each to their own I guess ..slightly off topic again but the Punk theme can be defined and orchestrated in many different ways ...

M E Smith has been doing it for decades, as good to watch as it is to listen to ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_godSE6RJy0

[F5 Dave]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mK3iSglbZUM


Well I've never seen two mics before. . . and for an English girl, she was beautiful.


OK well this probably isn't punk but let it ride on a Saturday night. (Link at the top)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mK3iSglbZUM

[F5 Dave]

Some people get by. . . with a little understanding.

Some people get by. . . with a whole lot more. N

[jasonu]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mK3iSglbZUMWell I've never seen two mics before. . . and for an English girl, she was beautiful.


OK well this probably isn't punk but let it ride on a Saturday night.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mK3iSglbZUM

Same horse different jockey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpoqzt2EHaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC9AUR-iTo0

[riffer]

Couldn't afford that concert but I hear she sconed some skinhead with her mic.

Watched filth and the fury last week on the tube, pistols own take on the era. A revolution and they only had about 3 decent songs. All their albums were largely the same songs.

She tried. But missed. Saw it, and knew both the fellas gobbing on her and the poor unfortunate who got sconed.

The skinhead was Gary Stone, a bit of a dickhead whose main claim to fame was that he could drink more and take more drugs than any of us, and that, unfortunately, he could beat almost all of us in a fight. And he had a bad attitude when he was drinking.

The poor unfortunate was Gerald Dwyer (RIP), a good friend, who used to front Wellington band Flesh D-vice, whom I had many dealings with as my bands played with them regularly.

[Crasherfromwayback]

She tried. But missed. Saw it, and knew both the fellas gobbing on her and the poor unfortunate who got sconed.

.

Ahhhhhh. I thought she'd got her target! Sure made a noise. Pity it was the wrong chap. Spitting on people is fucking disgusting.

[jasonu]

Spitting on people is fucking disgusting.

I saw the Pistols at Mt. Smart and went home covered in gob. Great night!

[jasonu]

She tried. But missed. Saw it, and knew both the fellas gobbing on her and the poor unfortunate who got sconed.

The skinhead was Gary Stone, a bit of a dickhead whose main claim to fame was that he could drink more and take more drugs than any of us, and that, unfortunately, he could beat almost all of us in a fight. And he had a bad attitude when he was drinking.

The poor unfortunate was Gerald Dwyer (RIP), a good friend, who used to front Wellington band Flesh D-vice, whom I had many dealings with as my bands played with them regularly.

I think I saw Flesh Dvice at the Glue Pot. Sure as shit listened to them on BFM.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I saw the Pistols at Mt. Smart and went home covered in gob. Great night!

You sure it was gob? :crazy:

[jasonu]

You sure it was gob? :crazy:

If you were there maybe not...

[Crasherfromwayback]

If you were there maybe not...

I was pretty excited.:banana:

[Dadpole]

I may be in the wrong thread. All I find here is a load of over the hill punk rockers swapping body fluid stories.

I shall, however, pull on a pair of rubber gloves :sick: and continue.

I present, for your edification, a listing that will undoubtedly return to this thread when some monkey has done the hacksaw, pipe tape and rattle can customisation. For the moment, it remains unfucked.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1309605477.htm

[Rcktfsh]

Warning the following link contains images of a deeply disturbing nature, once seen they will sadly never likely be erased from ones memory.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1304655624.htm

[jasonu]

I was pretty excited.:banana:

Mate it was a total hock fest. Best concert I have been to. The other best concert I have been to was Pink Floyd in Sydney. 2nd best was The Prodigy at Selinas in Sydney.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Warning the following link contains images of a deeply disturbing nature, once seen they will sadly never likely be erased from ones memory.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1304655624.htm

See post #6379. And I know right...

[HenryDorsetCase]

The poor unfortunate was Gerald Dwyer (RIP), a good friend, who used to front Wellington band Flesh D-vice, whom I had many dealings with as my bands played with them regularly.

Huh. I met him a few times as he was friends with some people I knew. I went to an epic party up in Aro Valley one weekend full of punk rockers and his band was set up in this hallway of this big old house. It didnt get raided by the police, it got visted by the Mongrel Mob. That wasnt cool.

He was also Shihads manager.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I may be in the wrong thread. All I find here is a load of over the hill punk rockers swapping body fluid stories.

I shall, however, pull on a pair of rubber gloves :sick: and continue.

I present, for your edification, a listing that will undoubtedly return to this thread when some monkey has done the hacksaw, pipe tape and rattle can customisation. For the moment, it remains unfucked.

no l ink? disappoint .

[Dadpole]

no l ink? disappoint .

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1309605477.htm

My mind must be wandering. If you see it, tell it to piss off home...

[EJK]

Thoughts? Great decal tho.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1303097400.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thoughts? Great decal tho.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1303097400.htm

Tell him he's dreaming.

[F5 Dave]

I clean it after every ride. Poofter.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I clean it after every ride. Poofter.

Prob just single.

[Dadpole]

Another offering for your entertainment.

Exhibit A: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1311957663.htm Yeah right.....

Exhibit B: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1312128114.htm I am quite impressed with this one. The 'Customiser' had a clear vision and did it properly, unlike so many others. It features the traditional pipe wrap and brown seat, but somehow (in my eyes) turned out well above the usual standard of Caffination.

[R650R]

Hhhmmmm 'replacement engine"...........

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1309644329.htm

Still own an injected version of this, never going to really be a classic. A good bike but never really had a following in NZ and failed to perform in WSBK apart from a couple of brief victories.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Another offering for your entertainment.

Exhibit A: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1311957663.htm Yeah right.....

.

Think that just about takes the cake....

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hhhmmmm 'replacement engine"...........

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1309644329.htm

Still own an injected version of this, never going to really be a classic. A good bike but never really had a following in NZ and failed to perform in WSBK apart from a couple of brief victories.

Yeah they're not a bad old Bus to ride. Just haven't dated very well in my opinion.

[Drew]

Think that just about takes the cake....

That is dreaming at the highest level.

Center seal not done on the crank, bet it leaks.

Airbox not functional, bet it's down on standard power.

$7k over priced.

[Crasherfromwayback]

$7k over priced.

At least. ...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Another offering for your entertainment.

I am quite impressed with this one. The 'Customiser' had a clear vision and did it properly, unlike so many others. It features the traditional pipe wrap and brown seat, but somehow (in my eyes) turned out well above the usual standard of Caffination.

I quite like it too but I am not sure its $7k worth - but it does now have two CDI units instead of just the one...

[F5 Dave]

The GT looks cute. But not 10k cute. Or 5k. And I never trust people who have done engine work unless I know them well.

[Drew]

The GT looks cute. But not 10k cute. Or 5k. And I never trust people who have done engine work unless I know them well.

It's only a twin. Have the crank stripped and the middle bloody seal done, is how I see it.

[riffer]

It's only a twin. Have the crank stripped and the middle bloody seal done, is how I see it.

How can you tell the middle seal isn't done? It's not like you can see inside the engine...

Although, re-reading the auction, I guess it's this bit got you spooked Drew:

Bottom end like New, replace l/h and r/h Crank Seals and Output Seals.Clean and re-build.

[AllanB]

Another offering for your entertainment.


Exhibit B: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1312128114.htm I am quite impressed with this one. The 'Customiser' had a clear vision and did it properly, unlike so many others. It features the traditional pipe wrap and brown seat, but somehow (in my eyes) turned out well above the usual standard of Caffination.



That one is pretty cool.

The CB650 was possibly one of the sweetest engines of the era - don't know if those dollars are valid (not to me) but I'll add it to the watch list and see what happens out of interest.

[F5 Dave]

So the bottom end isn't like new. 2strokes don't like to sit around unused. Any degradation of the big end rod plating or the rollers will shorten the lifespan quite dramatically. My Stinger for example had a good crank for casual observation. But I knew the bike had sat outside for years. Queue full rebuild.

[riffer]

So the bottom end isn't like new. 2strokes don't like to sit around unused. Any degradation of the big end rod plating or the rollers will shorten the lifespan quite dramatically. My Stinger for example had a good crank for casual observation. But I knew the bike had sat outside for years. Queue full rebuild.

Why is that Dave? Is it something to do with the metals they use - designed to handle a petroil mix - or is it the actual petroil sitting inside the crankcase (albeit not very much) that degrades the metal?

[F5 Dave]

Well no just like it isn't sitting in a bath of oil likeva 4 stroke. The GS were indistructable for any length of time with a built up crank.

[YellowDog]

Another offering for your entertainment.

Exhibit A: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1311957663.htm Yeah right.....

Exhibit B: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1312128114.htm I am quite impressed with this one. The 'Customiser' had a clear vision and did it properly, unlike so many others. It features the traditional pipe wrap and brown seat, but somehow (in my eyes) turned out well above the usual standard of Caffination.

$10k for a poxy 185cc bicycle doesn't really do it for me. But the serious restoration and amount of work to the CB650, sort of makes the price justified. Just not classic enough for me :no:

[F5 Dave]

Well line up guys, this is a collector's item they sez.

Yup I can just imagine it in a glass case at the side of the lounge. A few Brandies after a dinner party, guests suck through their teeth. `Well Stanley, you don't see many of those anymore`

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1312437089.htm

[F5 Dave]

Yeah, that's your finger buddy. That's one of the photos that you don't load up, or if you do by mistake, don't use as your featured photo.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1305950437.htm

[F5 Dave]

I'm calling the manufacturer the optimistic seller.

What the hell were Yamaha thinking??

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1309086592.htm

So you buy Parkers Radd project to make a cutting edge Honda style (think NR750 or CXTurbo) statement bike. Then you make it enormous, heavier than it needed to be, and butt ugly.
Hmm. . . maybe that was in Honda style.

Haven't seen one for sale before, but I took one for a decent strop up old coast rd wainui. I actually rated it. I mean it was a better bike than my RF900 for example. Could have done with some more go as they'd detuned it. And a plastic tank so no tankbag on what clearly is a tourer. And good luck getting parts if you crash it.

Well that was a dead end when they didn't sell. Maybe they were trying to kill off hub steering once and for all?

[Owl]

What the hell were Yamaha thinking??

Guess it was too early to claim Gangnam Style?:confused:

[pritch]

What the hell were Yamaha thinking??


Dunno but it's a significant piece of history and If I wanted an old bike I'd be interested in that. Much more keen than on that Ajay model 18 with fingers included.

My first bike was a '54 model 16 and I have no desire to go that far back in time. I couldn't be bothered with decompression and advance/retard levers. All that faffing about for maybe 130kph flat out? The thing would just rot in the shed. /RANT

[jellywrestler]

I'm calling the manufacturer the optimistic seller.

What the hell were Yamaha thinking??

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1309086592.htm

So you buy Parkers Radd project to make a cutting edge Honda style (think NR750 or CXTurbo) statement bike. Then you make it enormous, heavier than it needed to be, and butt ugly.
Hmm. . . maybe that was in Honda style.

Haven't seen one for sale before, but I took one for a decent strop up old coast rd wainui. I actually rated it. I mean it was a better bike than my RF900 for example. Could have done with some more go as they'd detuned it. And a plastic tank so no tankbag on what clearly is a tourer. And good luck getting parts if you crash it.

Well that was a dead end when they didn't sell. Maybe they were trying to kill off hub steering once and for all?
didn't stop steve lyndsell getting ninth in the senior tt on one, fact is few people wanted to accept the move forward in front ends, we're still stuck with antiqated forks....

[F5 Dave]

Yeah took him quite some work to shed the weight though.

If they launched a bike much closer to the Radd concept bike, which was a sports bike I think it would have sold better.

Geez Jelly I was expecting some greif over stating the quad not being collectable.

[Grumph]

Geez Jelly I was expecting some greif over stating the quad not being collectable.

The only four wheelers with that amount of plastic that are even remotely collectible were made by Lotus....

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm calling the manufacturer the optimistic seller.

What the hell were Yamaha thinking??

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1309086592.htm

l?

Had two brand new ones avail for sale when I started at Brisbane Yamaha, and a demo. I actually quite enjoyed riding it (apart from the front end). They were still avail when I left...

[Crasherfromwayback]

fact is few people wanted to accept the move forward in front ends, we're still stuck with antiqated forks....

Only because there's as yet, no better alternative.

[Drew]

Only because there's as yet, no better alternative.

Let's not forget that they keep making forks better too.

Line up a set of balance free forks against the best oem item from a decade ago. There's no comparing the levels of control available then and now.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Let's not forget that they keep making forks better too.

.

That, and every time I ride on a front end that doesn't dive when on the picks, I shudder. I was there when bikes had anti dive fitted cause it seemed like a good idea. Didn't like it then, hate it now.

[Drew]

That, and every time I ride on a front end that doesn't dive when on the picks, I shudder. I was there when bikes had anti dive fitted cause it seemed like a good idea. Didn't like it then, hate it now.

I liked it on the gamma. But I was so young when I rode that, there's no chance I was trying to carry any brake into a turn.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I liked it on the gamma. .

Fuck that. My first ever road bike (KR250) had it too. Hated it. Had come from long travel MX bikes, and it just made no sense.

[jasonu]

didn't stop steve lyndsell getting ninth in the senior tt on one, fact is few people wanted to accept the move forward in front ends, we're still stuck with antiqated forks....

Yep, antiquated... laughable actually...
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[neels]

Another offering for your entertainment.

Exhibit A: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1311957663.htm Yeah right.....

You guys need to shut up, I've got one of those so I'm quite happy if the market will pay $10k.

Also, if it's been parked for an extended period then it needs the crank split and the centre seal and bearing replaced. I'm going to run mine for a giggle before I rebuild the bottom end, and see what comes oozing out.

[Mike.Gayner]

https://trademe.co.nz/1312375859

Not a smart dealer - your competitors are selling brand new ones for $1,000 less than the asking price of your 2 year old used demonstrator.

[jellywrestler]

Yep, antiquated... laughable actually...
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teles have been around for a hundred or more years, there are other better options for variable travel on the way through like rear suspension has moved to; but nobodies picked them up, i don't doubt that shit is state of the art but look at the way rear suspension has evolved....

[pritch]

No price mentioned but things have been a bit quiet so...



http://newatlas.com/factory-1957-gilera-500cc-grand-prix-racer-auction/49357/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=32f1f98082-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-32f1f98082-90148181

[Voltaire]

No price mentioned but things have been a bit quiet so...



http://newatlas.com/factory-1957-gilera-500cc-grand-prix-racer-auction/49357/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=32f1f98082-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-32f1f98082-90148181



Provenance means you can brag more. Unless these bikes get started up and run for people to appreciate they are just nice static displays.

[F5 Dave]

Well I don't think he'll get this much.

But I Want It!!

http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/RGV500-Suzuki-Motorcycle-RGV250-RG500-/172616506088?hash=item2830bedae8%3Ag%3AdxwAAOSwTuJ YwO1-&_trkparms=pageci%253Aedb89970-3142-11e7-ae78-74dbd180f93c%257Cparentrq%253Ad6a6f7d215b0a7f26998 12e3fffe0ee7%257Ciid%253A2

[Grumph]

Well I don't think he'll get this much.

But I Want It!!

Now there's a name from the past - Dennis Foran must have done those pipes before coming back to ChCh a few years back.

[F5 Dave]

Unfinished project, yeah buddy, good luck giving that away let alone asking real money

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1315438988.htm

I can see thousands to go and you end up with a lemon.

[F5 Dave]

Collector's bike or embarrassing deadend until they got their stride back? We'll let the market decide.


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1300311172.htm

. . . through inaction.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well I don't think he'll get this much.

But I Want It!!

L]

If I had too much money I'd buy it. But that'll never happen...

[F5 Dave]

At least ts not another Pepsi replica.

But while I'm dreaming, change the tailpiece to that of a 70deg model 250, to suit the old style can.
And get Kevin to sign the tank.

Not because I'm some sort of sad fan.

Just to increase resale value.

Maybe something like 'Hi Dave, buddy'.

What? Its a popular name.

[Grumph]

Collector's bike or embarrassing deadend until they got their stride back? We'll let the market decide.

. . . through inaction.

Probably not many Puso's left worldwide as they very quickly became donors for parts to build something better.

[F5 Dave]

Recycling bins full of full coverage fairings.

[Mike.Gayner]

Another local KB Optimistic Seller.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/183018-2004-Honda-Hornet-250

[Laava]

Fuck, that is ridiculous, for similar money you could have this; http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1316760915

[Mike.Gayner]

Yep and thanks to LAMS the days of the 250cc premium are long gone.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This has prob already featured here. But just in case...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1273551309.htm

[Dadpole]

This has prob already featured here. But just in case...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1273551309.htm

And it still makes me ..... :rofl:

[jasonu]

This has prob already featured here. But just in case...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1273551309.htm

Wot a cock.

[AllanB]

Wot a cock.

Yep, don't see that as collectible.


Buy a nice Sporster for that ... in fact apart from the pipe wrap this is cool

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1309735396.htm

[AllanB]

A really nicely modded Bonnie. Price - hmm depends, if you want the mods then probably a saving. If not a couple k high?

Interested in comments.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1306059483.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

Buy a nice Sporster for that ... in fact apart from the pipe wrap this is cool

[l]

I'd like to build something like this one day...I don't like the mufflers, but the rest...oh yeah!

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[jasonu]

I'd like to build something like this one day...I don't like the mufflers, but the rest...oh yeah!

330784

You could look just as cool on a similarly boogered GN250

[F5 Dave]

Yep, don't see that as collectible.


Buy a nice Sporster for that ... in fact apart from the pipe wrap this is cool

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1309735396.htm
Wow. I can't believe that waste of pot metal sold for nigh $12k.

Still, McDonalds is our national dish and Tui sells well.

[AllanB]

Wow. I can't believe that waste of pot metal sold for nigh $12k.

Still, McDonalds is our national dish and Tui sells well.

I thought that's a good price - 2014, only 4,500 kms. Nice custom work. It's practically a new bike.

A new, stock, everyone has one Sporty start in the low $19,000 now. https://rollingthunder.co.nz/collections/2017-harley-davidson

[F5 Dave]

Sportster. Motorcycling`s biggest oxymoron.

[OddDuck]

A really nicely modded Bonnie. Price - hmm depends, if you want the mods then probably a saving. If not a couple k high?

Interested in comments.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1306059483.htm

Tastefully done. Not quite my cuppa tea but someone out there will go for it.

[Mike.Gayner]

A really nicely modded Bonnie. Price - hmm depends, if you want the mods then probably a saving. If not a couple k high?

Interested in comments.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1306059483.htm

I reckon that's ridiculously expensive. It's a 2005, and these air cooled varieties aren't going to hold their value - not classic enough to be good, trying too hard to be classic, and not nearly as good as the new water cooled bikes.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I reckon that's ridiculously expensive. It's a 2005, and these air cooled varieties aren't going to hold their value - not classic enough to be good, trying too hard to be classic, and not nearly as good as the new water cooled bikes.

Meh. I love those '72's. I'd have one.

[Mike.Gayner]

Meh. I love those '72's. I'd have one.

What? The link is a 2005. It's a bad modern copy of a 72, and doesn't resemble the 72 in any meaningful way. A 72 will hold its value because it has legitimate classic credentials.

[HenryDorsetCase]

What? The link is a 2005. It's a bad modern copy of a 72, and doesn't resemble the 72 in any meaningful way. A 72 will hold its value because it has legitimate classic credentials.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/content/h-d/en_US/home/motorcycles/2016-motorcycles/sportster/seventy-two.html

Yeah, not what I was talking about.

[kazadi]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1259857772.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1259857772.htm

Fuck me that's UGLY!

[EJK]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1259857772.htm

That thing must weigh a ton!