Optimistic sellers

[Stylo]

Two diff models though. I'd rather have the blue version with the clock in the dash...

I'd say 25k in US money is a fair asking price for the blue one. Try and find another. He'll probably get that.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'd say 25k in US money is a fair asking price for the blue one. Try and find another. He'll probably get that.

Another one will come along. That's the main diff between Ebay and Trademe. Only 8 hours to go and no bids yet...I'm thinking he won't get it. That's Z1RTC money, and there were only 500 or so of those ever built. Even then, super low mile versions of those still pop up from time to time.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I've been offered 'very' slightly north of 20k recently for a zero hour CR500 I have in my shed, go figure.

A fool and his money ...

I'd tell the man he owns it if it was mine. Hell, I'd prob be tempted to part with my SR500 for that sort of coin...

[T.W.R]

Two diff models though. I'd rather have the blue version with the clock in the dash...

79 SN & 80 ST ;)

That's the Twowheels Feb 80 test of the 79 model (actually Neil Chivas's production race bike)

[F5 Dave]

Hmm circa 58kw= 78 on chassis dyno say 70 at the rear. Always figured that was about what my 11 put out (via shafty rather than more efficient chain)
How far we've come. That's SV650 power.

[AllanB]

Hmm circa 58kw= 78 on chassis dyno say 70 at the rear. Always figured that was about what my 11 put out (via shafty rather than more efficient chain)
How far we've come. That's SV650 power.

That's Harley power ....

[T.W.R]

Hmm circa 58kw= 78 on chassis dyno say 70 at the rear. Always figured that was about what my 11 put out (via shafty rather than more efficient chain)
How far we've come. That's SV650 power.

That's 57.1kw max rwp which isn't that far behind the GSX11 measured at 65.5 rwp and they were 120hp at the crank. A back to back tug of war between a SV & the GS I know which one would submit in defeat.
The test is an interesting read though, they make plenty of comparisons to the other current jappers and continually do head to head against the Laverda Jota and it set a whole new standard for it's fellow countrymen to follow and did everything as well as the european stuff did for a fraction of the price.
That Red one in Welly could be legit but the paint job isn't that great for a refurb and it's easy to give an E a dulux overhaul to make it look like an S :yes:

[F5 Dave]

That's Harley power ....
A 1340 Evo used to put out 53 on a real dyno. Not sure if they've progressed past 70 but you'd think so.

[F5 Dave]

That's 57.1kw max rwp which isn't that far behind the GSX11 measured at 65.5 rwp and they were 120hp at the crank. A back to back tug of war between a SV & the GS I know which one would submit in defeat. . .

:yes:
Well that's an interesting thought experiment, if a whole bunch not real world. Let's consider that you'd keep abusing the clutch and raising the revs as the other person started to get the better. So the low down power would become a little irrelevant. The GS has weight on its side. . . but as this escalating power struggle continues, eventually one of you is going to lose traction.
Assuming the rope is high enough that you don't wheelie it if you sit back. Is it going to be the modern 160 rear tyre that wins the day, or the 120 ME99 that spins up first?
I might put money on the SV.
But I'd far rather take the GS home any day.

[HenryDorsetCase]

That's 57.1kw max rwp which isn't that far behind the GSX11 measured at 65.5 rwp and they were 120hp at the crank.

wait, whut?

so just under HALF of the engine output is lost in the clutch, gearbox, chain and wheel and interface with the dyno.?

Nope.

They might have been 120 at the brochure.

Just think about it: 1100cc air cooled, 4 valve heads, 10000 or so rpm before it goes bang. State of the art thirty years ago. Think about a BMW S10000RR motor with titanium rods and valves, 14000 rpm redline, watercooled blah de blah. The streetbike version puts out 180hp or so at the wheel: by your logic it should be 300 plus at the crank, which ain't happening.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/first-rides-tests/2009/december/dec1909-bmw-s1000rr-dyno-curve/

here is an interesting article on drivetrain loss

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/engine/modp-1005-drivetrain-power-loss/

[T.W.R]

Well that's an interesting thought experiment, if a whole bunch not real world. Let's consider that you'd keep abusing the clutch and raising the revs as the other person started to get the better. So the low down power would become a little irrelevant. The GS has weight on its side. . . but as this escalating power struggle continues, eventually one of you is going to lose traction.
Assuming the rope is high enough that you don't wheelie it if you sit back. Is it going to be the modern 160 rear tyre that wins the day, or the 120 ME99 that spins up first?
I might put money on the SV.
But I'd far rather take the GS home any day.

Just a theoretical comparison, though the GS would do it more consistently for longer
Though I have seen 1st hand a spectacularly fried GS1000e clutch pack fused together from a massive launch off the lights :whistle:


wait, whut?

so just under HALF of the engine output is lost in the clutch, gearbox, chain and wheel and interface with the dyno.?

Nope.

They might have been 120 at the brochure.

Just think about it: 1100cc air cooled, 4 valve heads, 10000 or so rpm before it goes bang. State of the art thirty years ago. Think about a BMW S10000RR motor with titanium rods and valves, 14000 rpm redline, watercooled blah de blah. The streetbike version puts out 180hp or so at the wheel: by your logic it should be 300 plus at the crank, which ain't happening.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/first-rides-tests/2009/december/dec1909-bmw-s1000rr-dyno-curve/

here is an interesting article on drivetrain loss

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/engine/modp-1005-drivetrain-power-loss/

mmm? read it again first...the specs from the test document is measuring the power in Kw and what I referred to crank power for the GSX was HP...pretty big difference :yes:
remember 1HP = .7457Kw and 1Kw = 1.34102Hp

So for the GSX's 120hp equals 89.484Kw.............65.5Kw = 87.83681Hp
And if my memory serves me right the GS was 98Hp so
98Hp = 73.0786Kw............57.1Kw = 76.572242Hp

[jasonu]

I dunno. I reckon it's worth twice that, as it'll sound like a Harley with those HD muffers he's got! Fuggin choice one!

Aside from how fucking queer this bike is, check the qual of some of this peanuts pics.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1403641180

Embarrassing at best.
What a cunt!!!

[Stylo]

I'd tell the man he owns it if it was mine. Hell, I'd prob be tempted to part with my SR500 for that sort of coin...

I guess it comes down to desirability coupled with disposable income and rarity. I don't do SR500's much but I'd love a mint XT or TT500. If either one of those three was a zero hour bike like mine for sale I'd expect the asking price to reflect the chance of finding another. Which would be pretty much nil.

Don't want to pay the money ? See you later then, someone else, somewhere, will pay the money and buy it.

[Stylo]

Embarrassing at best.
What a cunt!!!

Not, he's not a cunt at all. Just someone asking too much for a bike that he doesn't want any more because it's totally impractical. And looks silly.

And he spent a lot of money making it that way ...

And his choice of bikes are as bad as his photography skills..

[Crasherfromwayback]

I guess it comes down to desirability coupled with disposable income and rarity. I don't do SR500's much but I'd love a mint XT or TT500. .

I wouldn't pay any cunt anywhere near 20k for a Yamaha SR500 even if it was brand spanking new. I was referring to my Kawasaki SR500. Which if I may be so rude as to point out, is prob more sought after than a CR500. :innocent:

[Drew]

I wouldn't pay any cunt anywhere near 20k for a Yamaha SR500 even if it was brand spanking new. I was referring to my Kawasaki SR500. Which if I may be so rude as to point out, is prob more sought after than a CR500. :innocent:

I have a chuckle wondering how many people aren't familiar with what bike you're actually talking about sometimes.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I wouldn't pay any cunt anywhere near 20k for a Yamaha SR500 even if it was brand spanking new. I was referring to my Kawasaki SR500. Which if I may be so rude as to point out, is prob more sought after than a CR500. :innocent:

A fucking Yamaha SR400E brand new can be had for like $8k. DAMHIK but anyway, just dont do it.

[Laava]

I have a chuckle wondering how many people aren't familiar with what bike you're actually talking about sometimes.

My GT350 makes 600hp at the rear wheels.

[AllanB]

$20k for a old dirt bike .......... pfttt.

[HenryDorsetCase]

that looks comfy

[Stylo]

I wouldn't pay any cunt anywhere near 20k for a Yamaha SR500 even if it was brand spanking new. I was referring to my Kawasaki SR500. Which if I may be so rude as to point out, is prob more sought after than a CR500. :innocent:

Calm down Crasher ..

[Rcktfsh]

Agree - Lexus is Toyota. Set up as despite being able to produce a luxury car that could rival the European ones they were still perceived as a 'Toyota' (brand snobbery). Particularly in the USA.

Smart move really - Lexus is now perceived as a brand in it's own right.

Honda tried the same in the USA - I think they called them Saturn cars. Did not take off like Lexus.

Perceived as a Toyota as that is what they are, still they have at least given us Toyota oops I mean Lexus snobs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YllyBr_4Kxk

[F5 Dave]

Not, he's not a cunt at all. Just someone asking too much for a bike that he doesn't want any more because it's totally impractical. And looks silly.

And he spent a lot of money making it that way ...

And his choice of bikes are as bad as his photography skills..
So therefore a Kunt,

[Crasherfromwayback]

Calm down Crasher ..

Perfectly clam here. Not my fault or problem if you don't know what an SR500 is in 500cc two stroke speak mate...

[F5 Dave]

But ironically you have demonstrated that an SR500 is far less sought after than a CR500 as no kunt this side of Bad Brad knows what one is. Desirability is another matter.

[AllanB]

But ironically you have demonstrated that an SR500 is far less sought after than a CR500 as no kunt this side of Bad Brad knows what one is. Desirability is another matter.

CR500 - now you are talking.

A SR can't be a real Kawasaki - real Kawasakis have a K in their prefix.

[Crasherfromwayback]

CR500 - now you are talking.

A SR can't be a real Kawasaki - real Kawasakis have a K in their prefix.

I say what Old Bean! A Honda CR, is the garden variety moto-x bike for the common man, where as, an RC, is the works version, built by HRC, for the Moto-X Gods of the time.

An SR Kawasaki, is Kawasaki's HRC version (SR, standing for *Special Race*) of the garden variety of KX for the common man.

So you see, my SR500 is no dirty Yamaha Diesel I'll have you know, but a hand crafted full on works bike, that neither you nor I, could ever hope to buy back in the day.

As you were...

:msn-wink:

[Crasherfromwayback]

But ironically you have demonstrated that an SR500 is far less sought after than a CR500 as no kunt this side of Bad Brad knows what one is. Desirability is another matter.

Desirability comes at a severe cost. No hair due to pulling it all out whilst trying to find bits for the cunting thing!

[AllanB]

One would assume that the fire breathing Kawasaki would potentially be worth more than the Honda then?

Unless all that factory goodness failed to win races ......... must do some Googling.

I'll ask Jacinda - she knows everything apparently.

[Crasherfromwayback]

One would assume that the fire breathing Kawasaki would potentially be worth more than the Honda then?

Unless all that factory goodness failed to win races ......... must do some Googling.

.

Everything is only ever worth what someone is willing to pay you.

They (all four they built in 1983) won races on them, but no titles. Kent Howerton raced them in AMA competition, and in Europe, think it was Kurt Nichol and I canne remember the other cunts name.

[jellywrestler]

Two diff models though. I'd rather have the blue version with the clock in the dash...

suzuki nz imported one red SN, the owner from memory worked for them in wanganui, he didn't like the colour and changed it to blue, then when the ST came out the paint was opposite placement on the tank etc and never looked quite as good, in either red or blue.

[jellywrestler]

I was going to say that's not a S. No clock. Paint is funny too. But maybe there are ones without. Was popular to turn Es into S. Hmm can I make out what size the rear wheel is? Carbs aren't cvs mind. Rear wheel looks big for a 17.

it's a 1980 gs1000st

[jellywrestler]

I'd say 25k in US money is a fair asking price for the blue one. Try and find another. He'll probably get that.

you can have mine for half that

[Grumph]

suzuki nz imported one red SN, the owner from memory worked for them in wanganui, he didn't like the colour and changed it to blue, then when the ST came out the paint was opposite placement on the tank etc and never looked quite as good, in either red or blue.

Saw a red ST in ChCh last year. I've always liked them better than the blue cos every bastard has a blue one...
Memory says that when senior prod was GS1000's, a couple of red ones were raced.

[F5 Dave]

SR kawi, Hmm. Lackey rode one in '80 before his defection and consequent title for suzuki.
Always remembered those Simmonsforks. First upside downies.

[husaberg]

Always remembered those Simmonsforks. First upside downies.

Only 30 years after James and BSA had them........:bleh:
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[Crasherfromwayback]

SR kawi, Hmm. Lackey rode one in '80 before his defection and consequent title for suzuki.
.

The chappy that I've been dealing with over the last four years or so (trying to get all the bits I need sorted) in Australia, has (would you believe?) 22 genuine SR's of various flavours!!!?? Including ex Lackey SR500's, ex Jobe SR500's and 250 even etc etc. Been a long road, but he's helped me no end. Need to get over there at some stage to see his collection in person!

BTW...just how the fuck do you get to own 22 bikes that in theory, should've made it into the crusher!? He won't answer me that question. But my bet is...he had a mate somewhere pretty high up in the race dept at some stage...

[AllanB]

BTW...just how the fuck do you get to own 22 bikes that in theory, should've made it into the crusher!? He won't answer me that question. But my bet is...he had a mate somewhere pretty high up in the race dept at some stage...

More likely a mate who owned a crusher ........

[husaberg]

Everything is only ever worth what someone is willing to pay you.

They (all four they built in 1983) won races on them, but no titles. Kent Howerton raced them in AMA competition, and in Europe, think it was Kurt Nichol and I canne remember the other cunts name.

I thought yours was an air cooled one?


The chappy that I've been dealing with over the last four years or so (trying to get all the bits I need sorted) in Australia, has (would you believe?) 22 genuine SR's of various flavours!!!?? Including ex Lackey SR500's, ex Jobe SR500's and 250 even etc etc. Been a long road, but he's helped me no end. Need to get over there at some stage to see his collection in person!

BTW...just how the fuck do you get to own 22 bikes that in theory, should've made it into the crusher!? He won't answer me that question. But my bet is...he had a mate somewhere pretty high up in the race dept at some stage...

Aussie got about 4 one year according to the VMX mag i am guessing its the same guy?
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[Crasherfromwayback]

I thought yours was an air cooled one?

Nah. Mines an 83 500. The KX of 83 and 84 were still air cooled though. Funny thing is, mine still uses the air cooled cases, with a modified clutch cover etc to accept the water pump etc etc

Aussie got about 4 one year according to the VMX mag i am guessing its the same guy?
332479

Aussie wouldn't have gotten 4 SR's a year I wouldn't have thought. Unless it was in the Gunter years or summat.

[husaberg]

Aussie wouldn't have gotten 4 SR's a year I wouldn't have thought. Unless it was in the Gunter years or summat.

I can't be assed trying to find the mag, but they were in various displacements. late 70's ...78?
Wrangler series or something, I would say they survived as they never made many spares so they were tucked away and not on sold to lesser mortals for mx back in the day.
According to the blub Even the team couldn't get spares for the bikes the year they were made. They got a few a lot of begging.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I can't be assed trying to find the mag, but they were in various displacements. late 70's ...78?
Wrangler series or something, I would say they survived as they never made many spares so they were tucked away and not on sold to lesser mortals for mx back in the day.
According to the blub Even the team couldn't get spares for the bikes the year they were made. They got a few a lot of begging.

The Boyle Bros had many Suzuki equilvs through back in the day. The diff being, privateers could buy RA's, RH's and RN's. They actually took an old RN to the tip many years ago. Oh the shame.

[F5 Dave]

Only 30 years after James and BSA had them........:bleh:
332478


I wasnt counting useless pommy shit.

[Grumph]

[Quote husaberg;1131061631]Only 30 years after James and BSA had them........:bleh:
I wasnt counting useless pommy shit.

What about Italian top quality shit then ?
My brother's 1949 250 Guzzi Airone has them....

[husaberg]

I wasnt counting useless pommy shit.

Or clearly the old Suzuki RV's either:facepalm:......
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[husaberg]

The Boyle Bros had many Suzuki equilvs through back in the day. The diff being, privateers could buy RA's, RH's and RN's. They actually took an old RN to the tip many years ago. Oh the shame.

A guy i used to work with worked with who grumph likely knows, used to have and still race a RH or RN 400 and something.

[EJK]

Having a laugh?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Having a laugh?

LAMS approved, Shirley?

[AllanB]

Not a bike but whats the point if you can't drive it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/volkswagen/auction-1387723438.htm

[Banditbandit]

LAMS approved, Shirley?

I'm sure shirley will like it then .. Me .. not so much.

[Drew]

Having a laugh?

It takes everything I've got not to comment on those face book ads and tell people their being a fucktard.

[husaberg]

It takes everything I've got not to comment on those face book ads and tell people their being a fucktard.
Cunts

I'd perhaps suggest that, Before rushing off to post your views on farsebook, Especially when calling other "fuckards", you should spell they're right Drew.............:bleh:
Is hitcher dead or something, because that would give him a coronary.

[Drew]

I'd perhaps suggest that, Before rushing off to post your views on farsebook, Especially when calling other "fuckards", you should spell they're right Drew.............:bleh:
Is hitcher dead or something, because that would give him a coronary.
My bad. Missed that in an edit.

[Paulo]

back on track.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1411950017.htm

[T.W.R]

Someone is keen, this didn't last long....must have been needing a new door for their barn :laugh:

Think it's a old original Don Vesco but the CB would've been using all the neddies it had to push it along


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1411112153.htm

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/640238749.jpg

[Voltaire]

Good to see non running Ducatis are now hitting over 10K, $12150.00 in this case.:banana:

Not bad for an old slow POS over rated, unreliable Italian bike....have I left anything out Drew?;)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1401371308&archive=1

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/633817247.jpg

[dinosaur]

Now heres a project
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1412048076.htm
332507

[F5 Dave]

Project, or a Sentence?

That SRV is rather biscuit taking. Imagine 6 large on gutless 250?

[Intruder VS]

Now heres a project
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1412048076.htm
332507

Yeah saw that and did think about it, be bit of fun to do up I reckon and so do a few others going by the Q&A

[Crasherfromwayback]

A guy i used to work with worked with who grumph likely knows, used to have and still race a RH or RN 400 and something.

I see and RN400 was ridden at a recent VMX meeting up North by Peter Ploen.

[jim.cox]

Here's another

Wants just short of new price

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1408639796.htm

Been listed for a couple of months, no bites, I wonder why....

[pritch]

Good to see non running Ducatis are now hitting over 10K, $12150.00 in this case.:banana:


One of the Brit bike pundits restored a bevel drive similar to that. His might have had alloy rims and spokes? He did a beautiful job - no shortcuts, everything immaculate like new or better.

If I had done a job like that, I'd be scared to ride it.

[husaberg]

I see and RN400 was ridden at a recent VMX meeting up North by Peter Ploen.

For what they were meant to be They used to be pretty common by NZ stds, well the 250 were.
Who i was thinking of is at least your age, so hes likely been put himself out to pasture by now:msn-wink:

[Voltaire]

A Legal High for HDC.:laugh:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1412858696.htm

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/641338945.jpg

[Crasherfromwayback]

at least your age, so hes likely been put himself out to pasture by now:msn-wink:

Something I should've done years ago.

[HenryDorsetCase]

A Legal High for HDC.:laugh:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1412858696.htm

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/641338945.jpg

That's good enough buying for that bike I reckon (assuming $3500 buys it).

I bought a Suzuki GS550 a month or so back which I have ridden a bit (300km) I quite like it but I would rather have that. Wonder if he wants to swap?

[F5 Dave]

550 was my first 4 cylinder bike. Unremarkable but sweet UJM.
Think you would actually find the GS much nicer to ride.
Tank will need a seal if not already done to keep silt out of the carbs. And check the charge voltage.

[F5 Dave]

Here's another

Wants just short of new price

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1408639796.htm

Been listed for a couple of months, no bites, I wonder why....

What sort of total tit spends 7 large on a brand new bike and well, like rides it a couple of times and puts it up for sale?!??

You know what I really hate?

People who treat motorcycling like some sort of hobby :crazy:

[AllanB]

What sort of total tit spends 7 large on a brand new bike and well, like rides it a couple of times and puts it up for sale?!??

You know what I really hate?

People who treat motorcycling like some sort of hobby :crazy:

Lots of really low km motorcycles over TM like that. Spotted a Ducati 1200 monster the other day - 2 years old, 1500 kms :no: a fair number of Harleys like that - buy the dream and find it's not a wet one I guess.

They all state something like: 'no time to ride' clearly. And clearly when you purchased it you had no time to ride then either ...... or maybe thought you'd 'get' time......

Funny side note - Mrs B often gets asked silly questions like - you let him have a motorcycle? Her response shuts then up - he had one long before meeting me. And, 'oh he goes out on it for ride then (duh!)' - response, yes and he does not spend all day at golf/pub/TAB/rugby (insert as required) like your man ........

[Drew]

550 was my first 4 cylinder bike. Unremarkable but sweet UJM.
Think you would actually find the GS much nicer to ride.
Tank will need a seal if not already done to keep silt out of the carbs. And check the charge voltage.
I'm pretty sure it's you making these countless bikes unremarkable.

I've ridden very few bikes I couldn't have an absolute ball On, I think you're just fucken doing it wrong.

[russd7]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1407187999.htm

only $4500 brand new in 83, don't see many round tho

[F5 Dave]

Notice how I called it sweet? I did about 50,000k on that bike. It was well maintained and fettled and used to get the engine bars ( remember them?) ground down.
But with circa 40hp, slow but steady handling and a bit lardy, well it was unremarkable. My CBX550 knocked it into a cocked hat and my RZ350 was much much more fun. All bikes had many 10s of thousands of ks put on them. I'd only bother having the RZ back. And I kinda do.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm pretty sure it's you making these countless bikes unremarkable.

I've ridden very few bikes I couldn't have an absolute ball On, I think you're just fucken doing it wrong.

That was you not all that long ago, Old Bean.

[HenryDorsetCase]

What sort of total tit spends 7 large on a brand new bike and well, like rides it a couple of times and puts it up for sale?!??

You know what I really hate?

People who treat motorcycling like some sort of hobby :crazy:

I did with my SR400. Having said that I was realistic and sold it for 25% less than new price with 600km/2 months use.

Bit of a hard lesson....

[F5 Dave]

And fair to admit. Did you sell with "not the time to ride it? ". I'd bet not.

I did sell a bike with that reason, although I kinda needed the money to put back into racing and with new kids the Trials bike was underutilised. Cut the stable back to six.


Actually thinking of going down to 4.
Would free up some cash if that RD400 I'm hankering after magically appears for not too much money.

Ohh, pics of the 550. Or start a classic thread.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Actually thinking of going down to 4.
.

Don't do it.

[eelracing]

Don't do it.

Someone get round there ASAP and administer drugs,booze and uppercuts quicksmart...and in no particular order.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Someone get round there ASAP and administer drugs,booze and uppercuts quicksmart...and in no particular order.

You know it! Must be on drugs already though.

[Drew]

That was you not all that long ago, Old Bean.

Woah woah woah.

I've ridden a lot of shit bikes. They were usually fucken fun to abuse though.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Woah woah woah.

I've ridden a lot of shit bikes. They were usually fucken fun to abuse though.

Come on mate. Not so long ago, if it wasn't a GSXR1000 or similar, it was a shitheap not worthy of mention. :msn-wink:

[Drew]

Come on mate. Not so long ago, if it wasn't a GSXR1000 or similar, it was a shitheap not worthy of mention. :msn-wink:

I did and do maintain. If value for money is the question, then a modern thou is impossible to go past.

But having fun on bikes is pretty much default. It's gotta be a complete lemon before it isn't fun.

[riffer]

Oldest son is considering a race bike. He's been checking out trademe. There sure are some dreamers on there.

Here's one.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1408730144.htm

[AllanB]

Oldest son is considering a race bike. He's been checking out trademe. There sure are some dreamers on there.

Here's one.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1408730144.htm

You get F-all for $2k that's WOF and regoed. How much do you think it is worth?

[ellipsis]

...It's been the start to race bike for a lot of champs the old RGV150...a lot of learn in that there 2000 bucks and an education in 2t's...

[pritch]

Oldest son is considering a race bike. He's been checking out trademe. There sure are some dreamers on there.

Here's one.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1408730144.htm

Nice of him to give the tread measurements of the tyres, I'd be more interested in the year they were manufactured. Of course if it's for racing the tyres won't be an issue, they'll be gone.

[riffer]

...It's been the start to race bike for a lot of champs the old RGV150...a lot of learn in that there 2000 bucks and an education in 2t's...

Well I stand corrected. :)

I was thinking it was at least $500 too expensive.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Well I stand corrected. :)

I was thinking it was at least $500 too expensive.

there's an FXR150 on there that is not too bad looking. Ownd by someone who posts on here I think.

[ellipsis]

Well I stand corrected. :)

I was thinking it was at least $500 too expensive.


...maybe it is too...but then again every bloody thing we want always costs more than we hope...we just picked up a fairly good FXR for racing...it cost 500 bucks more as soon as it was in our possession and that could only be the start if we wanted to keep up with the ones that have had 1500 thrown at them and they don't always catch the faster ones that have more TIME and money thrown at them...:blink:

[F5 Dave]

Um so what class was he intending to race? The RGV 150 is not the same as the RG150 which is water cooled and much better. But do they still even run the 150 class?

Buy a bucket and get much more track time. Did OK for Jay and Sketchy and well heaps of others.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Buy a bucket and get much more track time. .

And spend at least as much as anyone does on an actual motorcycle. Heaven forbid you get a Triumph 675 or similar, so you can do BEARS meets as well. :msn-wink:

[HenryDorsetCase]

And spend at least as much as anyone does on an actual motorcycle. Heaven forbid you get a Triumph 675 or similar, so you can do BEARS meets as well. :msn-wink:

Its a hell of a thing though: the difference between riding a 675 and racing one. Its a 240kph, 100 hp motorbike. Not a particularly forgiving learner race bike.

[jasonu]

Well I stand corrected. :)

I was thinking it was at least $500 too expensive.

It does say OBO and I'll bet he isn't being inundated with offers....
Try him at $1500

Better still, get an FXR150 then he can go Bucket racing.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah the RGV150 was dreadful and they usually break pistons which is odd. The RG is a totally different bike.

What on earth are you on about Pete? My multichampionship 50 I sold for 2&1\2 thou, a set of 2nd hand slicks lasts at least a year, and there's a cheap local event every month.

[Drew]

It does say OBO and I'll bet he isn't being inundated with offers....
Try him at $1500

Better still, get an FXR150 then he can go Bucket racing.

Get a gixxer cup bike and get a full race kit with it.

[jasonu]

Get a gixxer cup bike and get a full race kit with it.

What does the full race kit include? A different sprocket and some stickers me thinks.

[Drew]

What does the full race kit include? A different sprocket and some stickers me thinks.
Fairing, bars, levers, full pipe. And some other stuff.

Add to that a race suit, helmet, gloves and boots.

So Yeah, fuck all.

[ellipsis]

Yeah the RGV150 was dreadful and they usually break pistons which is odd. The RG is a totally different bike.





...as soon as I had posted I realised the V part was not part of the deal... the rest of the meanderings were pretty close though...if you have a set budget to race a bike, double it before you even start and start saving even harder...forever...

[malcy25]

Oldest son is considering a race bike. He's been checking out trademe. There sure are some dreamers on there.

Here's one.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1408730144.htm

Buy this. national and club level class. Learn about the mechanical side while reassembling it. https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1411950214.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'll take two!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1416120502.htm


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1414836634.htm

[EJK]

I'll take two!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1416120502.htm


He's dreaming for sure.

[F5 Dave]

I'd like to ride the 550. Have a soft spot (probably in the head) for them. 12k? As they say in nu zeelund- yeah nah.

[Stylo]

He's dreaming for sure.

I'd say he'll get his asking price easy. He's not dreaming. That's a genuine classic , I think he's not asking enough in my book..

Dream machine ...

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'd say he'll get his asking price easy. He's not dreaming. That's a genuine classic , I think he's not asking enough in my book..

Dream machine ...

Time will tell. Me, I think you need to stay of the LSD. :innocent:

[Paulo]

I'd say he'll get his asking price easy. He's not dreaming. That's a genuine classic , I think he's not asking enough in my book..

Dream machine ...

hmmm I saw a beautifully restored Moto Guzzi V7 sport (1974) go for only a grand more on TM last month, I know what i'd prefer ;)

[Stylo]

Time will tell. Me, I think you need to stay of the LSD. :innocent:

LSD not required, I'm doing Ok without that thanks.....

[jellywrestler]

He's dreaming for sure.

why, it's a pretty good original bike for its age, very very rare as they usually riode till death whereas there's a lot of low mileage british shit lying around as people got sick of them breaking down all the time
cool looking peice of history of the time too when all the british stuff was real slow in changing

[pritch]

I think y'all are being unkind that Honda Dream. That is THE Japanese motorcycle, nothing else comes close. (Don't choke on yer beer.) There have been more exotic and more powerful Japanese bikes, there have been other brands since, but that was the one that kicked off the Japanese industry internationally.

There can't be many of those around, time can't have been kind to all those steel pressings.

[Crasherfromwayback]

LSD not required, I'm doing Ok without that thanks.....

Well, you turned down over 20k for a CR500, so I'm beginning to wonder...:bleh:

How's the rear brake setup on this thing? Why not use a clutch master cyl?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1415691621.htm

[Voltaire]

Honda is very cool as is the Corvair truck, can't say I have seen one in the metal.

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1413600115.htm.
Sez "Too many bikes to restore. "


Erm yeah, but you seem to be asking the restored price. Can't enter twinshock class by definition I would have thought.

[F5 Dave]

Rego on hold. WOF on an extended holiday.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1416588297.htm

Guards. No. Mufflers. No. Taste. Nien.

[Intruder VS]

Rego on hold. WOF on an extended holiday.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1416588297.htm

Guards. No. Mufflers. No. Taste. Nien.

HAHA yeah if this sells at that price I'm thorowing the mufflers, guards and WOF in the bin from mine

[Ocean1]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1413600115.htm.
Sez "Too many bikes to restore. "


Erm yeah, but you seem to be asking the restored price. Can't enter twinshock class by definition I would have thought.

Unless you're competing nationally does it matter? I think they let you pretend to ride whatever class you want locally don't they?

Be a not bad trail bike at about half that price.

[Honest Andy]

How's the rear brake setup on this thing? Why not use a clutch master cyl?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1415691621.htm

An upside-down brake master cylinder... on the wrong side... man that's a quality restoration... where's my wallet...

[F5 Dave]

5 & a 1\2 k for a wheezey 400! And they really are quite unspectacular, although Drew will say they are magnificent and has wet dreams about them.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1410334268.htm

They were a cynical attempt to cash in but are really low spec.

[F5 Dave]

Unless you're competing nationally does it matter? I think they let you pretend to ride whatever class you want locally don't they?

Be a not bad trail bike at about half that price.
I sold my gasgas for considerably less, a world more competent and parts still available for the gg.

[Ocean1]

I sold my gasgas for considerably less, a world more competent and parts still available for the gg.

But did it have a seat?

[F5 Dave]

Well, . . it kinda had a sticker where the seat should have been, does that count?

[Ocean1]

Well, . . it kinda had a sticker where the seat should have been, does that count?

So more a deformed scooter than a proper motorbike?

I'm too fucking old to be climbing trees up the Maungatuks on a modern, and when the knees give way I quite like some padding where the delicate bits land.

[AllanB]

BMW dealers with this https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1411825154.htm

Should be $20K tops.

Side note - it's a old school heck of a reach to the clip-ons.

[AllanB]

WOW To be fair I have no idea if this is a realistic price, it's just shit loads for a motorcycle! https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1417453990.htm

[sidecar bob]

BMW dealers with this https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1411825154.htm

Should be $20K tops.

Side note - it's a old school heck of a reach to the clip-ons.

That price does include BST. (BMW suckers tax)

[Laava]

BMW dealers with this https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1411825154.htm

Should be $20K tops.

Side note - it's a old school heck of a reach to the clip-ons.
I'm no expert, but is that kinda budget front susp for a $23k bike?

[OddDuck]

5 & a 1\2 k for a wheezey 400! And they really are quite unspectacular, although Drew will say they are magnificent and has wet dreams about them.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1410334268.htm

They were a cynical attempt to cash in but are really low spec.

Hey!! I had one for years and years and was very happy on it and... and...

...fuck it, you're right.

I got rid of mine about three weeks after I bought the 900ss and don't miss it a bit.

[Laava]

WOW To be fair I have no idea if this is a realistic price, it's just shit loads for a motorcycle! https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1417453990.htm

Maybe Superleggera is eytie for "comes with supermodel"?

[HenryDorsetCase]

BMW dealers with this https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1411825154.htm

Should be $20K tops.

Side note - it's a old school heck of a reach to the clip-ons.

The cheapest R Nine T is $18990 which is the peasant pack cast wheel one - I sat on that Racer one last weekend and decided I didnt want it.

I sat on the R 9T scrambler they have which i could ride quite happily - they offered me the one they have in stock for $23k ride away. Its quite cool its got the polished alloy tank and wire wheels which I like.

[AllanB]

The cheapest R Nine T is $18990 which is the peasant pack cast wheel one - I sat on that Racer one last weekend and decided I didnt want it.

I sat on the R 9T scrambler they have which i could ride quite happily - they offered me the one they have in stock for $23k ride away. Its quite cool its got the polished alloy tank and wire wheels which I like.

I do like their seat heights! Friggen tippy toe on my Ducati.

The Scrambler BMW - would you actually scramble on it? Maybe a shingle drive to your mancave.

Price wise I compare them with BMW's own naked S1000R which is $24 something. OK totally different buyers but ones is hyper tech zillion horses, decent suspenders etc and a grand cheaper than the more hmm 'traditional' R9T (wire wheel).

I'd have thought the old boxer would be cheaper to produce.

Fucked if I know really but there is some heavy hitters in the $25k bracket.

[Voltaire]

The cheapest R Nine T is $18990 which is the peasant pack cast wheel one - I sat on that Racer one last weekend and decided I didnt want it.

I sat on the R 9T scrambler they have which i could ride quite happily - they offered me the one they have in stock for $23k ride away. Its quite cool its got the polished alloy tank and wire wheels which I like.


Retro bikes are just for posers who think they can relive the past buy spending thousands on leather jackets, beard oil,open face helmets ( yuk) and ethically farmed blah blah bowls of over milked latte.

I've parked outside cafes in Europe in the late 80's and never looked anything like the brochure,well used non matching riding gear, unshaven and helmet hair and riding an early 70's BMW.

They are selling a dream....don't buy into it, buy a shitter a manual and some tools.

[Laava]

I do like their seat heights! Friggen tippy toe on my Ducati.

The Scrambler BMW - would you actually scramble on it? Maybe a shingle drive to your mancave.

Price wise I compare them with BMW's own naked S1000R which is $24 something. OK totally different buyers but ones is hyper tech zillion horses, decent suspenders etc and a grand cheaper than the more hmm 'traditional' R9T (wire wheel).

I'd have thought the old boxer would be cheaper to produce.

Fucked if I know really but there is some heavy hitters in the $25k bracket.

The R1200R seems a way better bit of kit for the same money...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Retro bikes are just for posers who think they can relive the past buy spending thousands on leather jackets, beard oil,open face helmets ( yuk) and ethically farmed blah blah bowls of over milked latte.

I've parked outside cafes in Europe in the late 80's and never looked anything like the brochure,well used non matching riding gear, unshaven and helmet hair and riding an early 70's BMW.

They are selling a dream....don't buy into it, buy a shitter a manual and some tools.

I won't be buying one. I am saving up to put a new engine in my VFR400.

(actually I have spent all my money on plaid shirts and beard oil....)

[Ocean1]

buy a shitter a manual and some tools.

Dude, a brand new Ducati totally has that covered!


Sorry, couldn't resist...

[Crasherfromwayback]

An upside-down brake master cylinder... on the wrong side... man that's a quality restoration... where's my wallet...

I know right! Sucking air.

[F5 Dave]

I won't be buying one. I am saving up to put a new engine in my VFR400.

(actually I have spent all my money on plaid shirts and beard oil....)

Must be a few out there wreckers can't sell

[F5 Dave]

I know right! Sucking air.

Sucking Arse.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Must be a few out there wreckers can't sell

less than you'd think....

[pritch]

Retro bikes are just for posers who think they can relive the past buy spending thousands on leather jackets, beard oil,open face helmets ( yuk) and ethically farmed blah blah bowls of over milked latte.

I've parked outside cafes in Europe in the late 80's and never looked anything like the brochure,well used non matching riding gear, unshaven and helmet hair and riding an early 70's BMW.

They are selling a dream....don't buy into it, buy a shitter a manual and some tools.

And I thought Drew was a 'glass half empty' kinda guy. :whistle:

[Voltaire]

And I thought Drew was a 'glass half empty' kinda guy. :whistle:

Will be full tomorrow riding down to to New Plymouth.:2thumbsup

[Drew]

And I thought Drew was a 'glass half empty' kinda guy. :whistle:

It'd a chemical imbalance.

[F5 Dave]

Yes it's kinda cool.

No, just no.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1413662571.htm

[AllanB]

Yes it's kinda cool.

No, just no.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1413662571.htm

It's friggen cool - that is exactly the type of second hand bike me and my mates used to save up for. It strongly appeals to the 50 plus brigade.

Reckon the price is OK as well.

[F5 Dave]

Allot(?) Of money went into this.

Its not just stripping a sad old bike, putting on a generic headlight, some adventure tyres and a brown seat. Oh no.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1417212377.htm

[F5 Dave]

Ho-ho

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1407071482.htm

[F5 Dave]

Its mother wouldn't acknowledge it in a crowd. Blueerg.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1402325886.htm

[Laava]

Allot(?) Of money went into this.

Its not just stripping a sad old bike, putting on a generic headlight, some adventure tyres and a brown seat. Oh no.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1417212377.htm

At least you know that all of nz's brat bikes, bobbers, scramblers and associated projects are all on trade me! Along with all the stripped off bits and roll upon roll of used lagging masquerading as pipe wrap.

[jim.cox]

Its mother wouldn't acknowledge it in a crowd. Blueerg.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1402325886.htm

Indeed - another fine example of a bike beaten with "The German Ugly Stick" :(

They do it to their cars too :(

[roogazza]

Here ya go , for all you fellas that like shit heaps from our youth , spotted this on a site last night.

http://jwoodandcompany.com/

[F5 Dave]

Golly, like to get there with a roll of 50s and a free shipping voucher.

X75 with 500 miles in a junkyard:nya:

[Drew]

Allot(?) Of money went into this.

Its not just stripping a sad old bike, putting on a generic headlight, some adventure tyres and a brown seat. Oh no.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1417212377.htm
I like the paint on the tank. That's bloody well done.

[Honest Andy]

Here ya go , for all you fellas that like shit heaps from our youth , spotted this on a site last night.

http://jwoodandcompany.com/

Far out! Bloody yanks, some of those bikes are in short supply, and he created the shortage!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Allot(?) Of money went into this.

]

Alloy tank you say? I'd be surprised.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah seem to remember that the K100 a mate had was ally perhaps to make it feel less top heavy so the 75 may have followed . Meant your touring bike didn't accept a tank bag.

[F5 Dave]

I like the paint on the tank. That's bloody well done.

Isn't that kinda like getting your previously ok looking gf made up to to look like she's got bad acne, a scar and face tattoo?

Ohh look at the quality of the ugliness :wacko:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah seem to remember that the K100 a mate had was ally perhaps to make it feel less top heavy so the 75 may have followed . Meant your touring bike didn't accept a tank bag.

Actually...that's ringing some bells...

[pritch]

Alloy tank you say? I'd be surprised.

Ferrous alloy? As in umm steel? I can't remember what my K100RS tank was, that's the sort of thing you don't necessarily want to find out.

[Drew]

Alloy tank you say? I'd be surprised.

Sure is mate.

[Drew]

Isn't that kinda like getting your previously ok looking gf made up to to look like she's got bad acne, a scar and face tattoo?

Ohh look at the quality of the ugliness :wacko:

But that's the point. Those not in the know see it ad being shit. Select few however appreciate the effort.

Like anything, it's quite subjective. Some in the know still don't like it.

[swarfie]

Yep, they got ali tanks. Got an Aussie mate who comes over here each year to ride and has a K75S and he borrows my strap on tank bag as his magnetic one slithers right off.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sure is mate.

See posts 7652 and 7653

[F5 Dave]

See posts 7657 and 7658.

Oops. Now we're in a continuous loop.

[Drew]

I quoted Pete not realising there was another page.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I quoted Pete not realising there was another page.

Sweet as! Best thing about dem bikes probably! Gotta love alloy fuel tanks...

[Drew]

Sweet as! Best thing about dem bikes probably! Gotta love alloy fuel tanks...

I got to ride Jay's K100 the other day. Throwing a leg over it's easy to forget that it is still an injected inline thou. But it hoes pretty well.

[F5 Dave]

Si`s R1M has brushed ally tank and it looks a bit special. Kinda reminds me of my old TT500, but not much.;)

[AllanB]

I've got a plastic tank! At least it is light.

[jellywrestler]

Si`s R1M has brushed ally tank and it looks a bit special. Kinda reminds me of my old TT500, but not much.;)

admitting your sister has an R1M means she's a bigger man than you....

[F5 Dave]

Nah she had an XL185 I learnt to ride on. Gotta watch those apostrophes Spida, tricky stuff.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1415949928.htm

FIFTY EIGHT GRAND? What the fuck? Is this guy smoking the same crack that idiot with the boat tail AMF POS is smoking?

[F5 Dave]

I think you'd deserve everything you got if you bought that old chuffer at any price.

[AllanB]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1415949928.htm

FIFTY EIGHT GRAND? What the fuck? Is this guy smoking the same crack that idiot with the boat tail AMF POS is smoking?

But it says it is a collectible icon.

[ellipsis]

But it says it is a collectible icon.

...nah, it's the red stripes on the hoops...ya just can't go an find them, they are a very special red...50k for a 250ml test pot...:cool:

[F5 Dave]

Does 'collectable` mean you'd be stuck with it?:laugh:

[EJK]

Don't mind the price.

5 speed with clutch. Not auto? Damn :-(

[awayatc]

was one zero to many......
$5800 is about right i think

[FJRider]

But it says it is a collectible icon.

"A few minor upgrades where needed for durability and reliability"...which would be Harley speak for ... complete engine rebuild.

[jim.cox]

Is it just me, or is everything here WAY overpriced?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/browse/motors/dealershowroom.aspx?showroom_id=698

I mean $16K for a '98 900SS or $20K for a '93 Daytona FFS

[AllanB]

Is it just me, or is everything here WAY overpriced?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/browse/motors/dealershowroom.aspx?showroom_id=698

I mean $16K for a '98 900SS or $20K for a '93 Daytona FFS

Reckon that's not far off for the Superlight. Better off putting it on Ebay though. Those limited edition Ducatis have a collector following.

Careful marketing from Ducati that continues today with very limited editions of very expensive bikes.


Harley on the other hand pump out some bullshit anniversary edition all the time. Ironically some of their most collectible bikes are the ones that did not sell so well - thinking 80's xr1000 off the top of my head.

[F5 Dave]

I'm thinking, Ditch pump.

[russd7]

was one zero to many......
$5800 is about right i think

i was thinking they had . in wrong place, $580.00 :sleep:

[Laava]

Yep, a few decimal points out here too! Sorry it's not a bike...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/porsche/auction-1412658645.htm

[Drew]

Yep, a few decimal points out here too! Sorry it's not a bike...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/porsche/auction-1412658645.htm

I can't think of a bike I've seen in this thread that's anywhere near as rare as that car.

[Jazzed]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1418937647.htm

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1418772187.htm

Forget Ducati these are going up in price, must be collectible now

[F5 Dave]

What you talking about drew? There's 159 of those in lh drive let alone total.
Many of the bikes featured here have been made unique. Thank goodness. Hopefully soon to be extinct.

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1418937647.htm

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1418772187.htm

Forget Ducati these are going up in price, must be collectible now
Hadn't seen the black one before, nice find. I like this bit,

All it needs is to be taken for a VIN and to then be registered. The bike is complete and is not missing anything so should pass without any complications.

Let's make a list, mirrors, indicators, approved tail light, proper mudguard, OK I'm bored now.

[Drew]

What you talking about drew? There's 159 of those in lh drive let alone total.
Many of the bikes featured here have been made unique. Thank goodness. Hopefully soon to be extinct.

Must spread more rep.

Got a good laugh.

[sidecar bob]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1418937647.htm
Can anyone confirm if Deus is pronounced Douche?

[russd7]

Hadn't seen the black one before, nice find. I like this bit,

All it needs is to be taken for a VIN and to then be registered. The bike is complete and is not missing anything so should pass without any complications.

Let's make a list, mirrors, indicators, approved tail light, proper mudguard, OK I'm bored now.







and what about the speedo that reads 104kms but the trip meter reads 426kms :Oops:

[AllanB]

Yep, a few decimal points out here too! Sorry it's not a bike...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/porsche/auction-1412658645.htm

I wonder if it was traded on something, and if so what they got?

[jellywrestler]

I can't think of a bike I've seen in this thread that's anywhere near as rare as that car.

it says virtually one owner, that's like being a little bit pregnant isn't it?

[Drew]

it says virtually one owner, that's like being a little bit pregnant isn't it?

I was perplexed at that line too.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Cool helmet Bro!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1422035826.htm

And which one of you acid heads built this?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1421812196.htm

[F5 Dave]

Aww me bro lowered the Holden since I figered (sp) I shood lower the bike.

But don't let's poke fun. Has a scary tail light so he's probably pretty tuff.

[F5 Dave]

And since when has the GP125 been called the Mosquito in any market?
Nothing with 13hp (probably 10 by now) is a 'weapon'. Tool.

[HenryDorsetCase]

And which one of you acid heads built this?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1421812196.htm

That is the basis of my homage to Freddie Spencer.

I own a hacksaw so that hideous exhaust is not going to be a problem.

[Honest Andy]

Cool helmet Bro!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1422035826.htm



I love the photos of it on a trailer... something to look forward to :weird:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yep, a few decimal points out here too! Sorry it's not a bike...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/porsche/auction-1412658645.htm

that car gives me inappropriate trouser feelings. If you want one, thats the one to buy. You might get it cheaper- but you certainly won't get a better or rarer one.

[Madness]

that car gives me inappropriate trouser feelings.

This one makes me want to rub possum fur all over my naked body.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1291258677

[HenryDorsetCase]

This one makes me want to rub possum fur all over my naked body.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1291258677 To each their own. It doesnt do a thing for me, though of course if you chucked me the keys and your credit card and said "Best you do a hot lap of the South Island" I wouldnt turn you down. But I prefer the looks and smallness and utility of your classic 911 and earlier stuff. Its like my current fixation with a Dodge Viper after watching the MEGAFACTORIES show about it. I really want to drive one if only to do a big fat fucking burnout with that V10 and fry a set of tyres.

Speaking of rare Porsches:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/porsche/auction-1407241200.htm


Funny, I just read this article about what a hidden gem they are:

http://jalopnik.com/why-the-porsche-912-has-its-own-cult-following-1807563500

[Ocean1]

that car gives me inappropriate trouser feelings. If you want one, thats the one to buy. You might get it cheaper- but you certainly won't get a better or rarer one.


To each their own. It doesnt do a thing for me, though of course if you chucked me the keys and your credit card and said "Best you do a hot lap of the South Island" I wouldnt turn you down. But I prefer the looks and smallness and utility of your classic 911 and earlier stuff. Its like my current fixation with a Dodge Viper after watching the MEGAFACTORIES show about it. I really want to drive one if only to do a big fat fucking burnout with that V10 and fry a set of tyres.

Speaking of rare Porsches:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/porsche/auction-1407241200.htm


Funny, I just read this article about what a hidden gem they are:

http://jalopnik.com/why-the-porsche-912-has-its-own-cult-following-1807563500

My only Porsche ownership involved a 914 Targa. Detachable hard top. Unfortunately it was the 4, not the 6. Still a hoot to drive, but like most straight sprots cars the manifest impracticalities eventually conspired against it.

But. I has a potential new project in view. Of an even more sublimely impractical nature. With the potential for three times as many cylinders. :eek:

[HenryDorsetCase]

My only Porsche ownership involved a 914 Targa. Detachable hard top. Unfortunately it was the 4, not the 6. Still a hoot to drive, but like most straight sprots cars the manifest impracticalities eventually conspired against it.

But. I has a potential new project in view. Of an even more sublimely impractical nature. With the potential for three times as many cylinders. :eek:

Three times 6 or 3 x 4?

either's good...

[Ocean1]

Three times 6 or 3 x 4?

either's good...

I do like to do ridiculously extravagant.

In this case it's not complete, and I'd get to choose, however the original was either a V12 or a blown straight 8.

I think there's enough scope there for at least slightly extravagant...

[Moi]

I do like to do ridiculously extravagant.

In this case it's not complete, and I'd get to choose, however the original was either a V12 or a blown straight 8.

I think there's enough scope there for at least slightly extravagant...

Go on, be a devil...

http://atomictoasters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/scaledeltic.jpg


[Napier Deltic 18 cylinder and 36 piston diesel engine]

[jasonu]

This one makes me want to rub possum fur all over my naked body.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1291258677

Not all that great up close. A guy at work had one. Shit build quality and did a lot of over heating which is common for that car.

[Banditbandit]

$95 grand ??? One for Drew to trash ...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1417453990.htm

[dinosaur]

$95 grand ??? One for Drew to trash ...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1417453990.htm

A quick search and you can import one for way less, but I really can't see why it's worth that much (or any bike)

[James Deuce]

$95 grand ??? One for Drew to trash ...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1417453990.htm

Definitely smoking something as it's been updated once then completely replaced by the new V4.

It's not collectible. It's just another Ducrappy in the SP SPS S R ARSE mould of let's make another version that makes last week's one look cheap.

[F5 Dave]

A quick search and you can import one for way less, but I really can't see why it's worth that much (or any bike)

IF I had say, Sam Morgan sort of money I'd gladly drop that on, say ex-Crafer wcm YZR500 for a start. Ex Doohan NSR500. Heck an NSR500 Vtwin would make a cracking track bike and less likely to kill you.

Certainly not on any car. No car is worth more than say 20k. Twice that for a decent van fitted to transport dirt bikes race bikes etc.

The only Dueclattery worth that this side of current GP bike would be somewhat older and have a fly visible in the gell coat of the tank, (as fable tells it).

[James Deuce]

IF I had say, Sam Morgan sort of money I'd gladly drop that on, say ex-Crafer wcm YZR500 for a start. Ex Doohan NSR500. Heck an NSR500 Vtwin would make a cracking track bike and less likely to kill you.


Nice pic in the latest Bike (UK) magazine of the mangled tank of an NSR500V presented to the cretunculous punk who highsided it into the far side of a gravel pit at a track day of cool race bikes provided for paying punters to destroy in an orgiastic frenzy of ambition outstripping talent.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Nice pic in the latest Bike (UK) magazine of the mangled tank of an NSR500V presented to the cretunculous punk who highsided it into the far side of a gravel pit at a track day of cool race bikes provided for paying punters to destroy in an orgiastic frenzy of ambition outstripping talent.

I love you.

[eelracing]

Nice pic in the latest Bike (UK) magazine of the mangled tank of an NSR500V presented to the cretunculous punk who highsided it into the far side of a gravel pit at a track day of cool race bikes provided for paying punters to destroy in an orgiastic frenzy of ambition outstripping talent.

TC cradled sluggards.

[F5 Dave]

3-2-1 bike goes BWAAP. Make sure you know which way it's pointed.
Customer slicks will be better than Sete had in 1999.

[Drew]

Customer slicks will be better than Sete had in 1999.
Dunno really. Manufacturers were making hoops to order back then.

[F5 Dave]

With 20 years technology. . .

[Drew]

With 20 years technology. . .

Yeah, it's a lot of time to advance.

[AllanB]

Certainly not on any car. No car is worth more than say 20k. Twice that for a decent van fitted to transport dirt bikes race bikes etc.

The only Dueclattery worth that this side of current GP bike would be somewhat older and have a fly visible in the gell coat of the tank, (as fable tells it).


Shit mate - plenty pay over a hundy thou for a bloody HSV Commy and way higher for a euro vehicle.

Casbolts have just sold a 1299 Superleggera - only two coming to NZ and 500 world wide. $128,000 NZ. The last of the last of the last top end twins. Time will tell if it is a good investment.

Drew don't know shit. He's brand racist. :bleh:

[jasonu]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Suzuki-GSX-R-/292246084802?hash=item440b395cc2:g:wj4AAOSw2AFZsu5 M&vxp=mtr

Sounds like a lot of dough but.....

here's another for a similar asking price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Suzuki-GSX-R-/202058550296?hash=item2f0ba0cc18:g:d5IAAOSwqJRZpxR c&vxp=mtr

Apparently this one is mint...Never seen a twin headlight RG500. What a dick.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Suzuki-RG500-Gamma-/172872380140?hash=item283fff2eec:g:-8gAAOSwSzRZVYSG&vxp=mtr

[AllanB]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Suzuki-GSX-R-/292246084802?hash=item440b395cc2:g:wj4AAOSw2AFZsu5 M&vxp=mtr

Sounds like a lot of dough but.....

here's another for a similar asking price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Suzuki-GSX-R-/202058550296?hash=item2f0ba0cc18:g:d5IAAOSwqJRZpxR c&vxp=mtr

Apparently this one is mint...Never seen a twin headlight RG500. What a dick.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Suzuki-RG500-Gamma-/172872380140?hash=item283fff2eec:g:-8gAAOSwSzRZVYSG&vxp=mtr

I'm not surprised. I was talking about these being collectible a week back, they were a game changer - the first ones would eat the big bore bikes due to power to weight and excellent handling. You never see them on the road anymore - most are probably dead, crashed or tucked in a shed corner.

IMO a bike worthy of being collectible.

[AllanB]

I cannot remember what the Rune sold for new in NZ - I'm pretty sure they got discounted down to $25k to get rid of them.

A bike that in theory should have been collectible.

God dam the Corbin seat on this one is vile.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1267351061.htm

[russd7]

I cannot remember what the Rune sold for new in NZ - I'm pretty sure they got discounted down to $25k to get rid of them.

A bike that in theory should have been collectible.

God dam the Corbin seat on this one is vile.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1267351061.htm

but they are a really butt ugly bike and the only reason to own one is that it is difficult to find any other production bike that is that butt ugly straight off the production line so therefor making it unique

[spanner spinner]

I cannot remember what the Rune sold for new in NZ - I'm pretty sure they got discounted down to $25k to get rid of them.

A bike that in theory should have been collectible.

God dam the Corbin seat on this one is vile.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1267351061.htm

not really collectible if you can't ride it. Try getting a correct front tyre for them, seller has put a rear tyre on the front which is no longer legal. This also makes them handle even more shit at low speed, and yes i have had the misfortune to ride a few of them when i was working in the motorcycle industry with both correct and incorrect tyre fitments. A B train turns better they they do at low speed, only good thing on them was the motor Honda should have offered this state of tune for the 1800 gold wing. More lift in the cams and multi port injection transformed this motor.

[James Deuce]

I cannot remember what the Rune sold for new in NZ - I'm pretty sure they got discounted down to $25k to get rid of them.

A bike that in theory should have been collectible.

God dam the Corbin seat on this one is vile.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1267351061.htm
The went for $44k new.

[HenryDorsetCase]

not really collectible if you can't ride it. Try getting a correct front tyre for them, seller has put a rear tyre on the front which is no longer legal. This also makes them handle even more shit at low speed, and yes i have had the misfortune to ride a few of them when i was working in the motorcycle industry with both correct and incorrect tyre fitments. A B train turns better they they do at low speed, only good thing on them was the motor Honda should have offered this state of tune for the 1800 gold wing. More lift in the cams and multi port injection transformed this motor.

are they different wheel sizes from the gold wing?...

[F5 Dave]

I wonder if any were actually sold for that price.
Can't imagine anyone would actually wear out a front tyre. I'm assuming that the rider would require grade 17 earplugs to drown out the laughing and vomiting from pedestrians.

[pritch]

Not my style of bike but then I've only seen one in the flesh, it was a really impressive looking beast. His mate had a Honda 1800 cruiser that was bloody near as big.
I wouldn't want either to get far from vertical.

[AllanB]

I wonder if any were actually sold for that price.
Can't imagine anyone would actually wear out a front tyre. I'm assuming that the rider would require grade 17 earplugs to drown out the laughing and vomiting from pedestrians.

They won't hear any laughing over the exhaust. It's one Honda in the past 20 years that had a meaty stock exhaust. Sounded Ace.

[spanner spinner]

are they different wheel sizes from the gold wing?...

yes you could say they have different tyres sizes, rune Front Tyre 150/60 R18 Rear Tyre 180/55 R17 1800 gold wing Front tyre 130/70-18 Rear tyre 180/60-16.

it's the front 150/60-18 which is the problem, unique to rune no other motorcycle runs this size. this is a great Honda trick running weird tyres sizes, try getting PC800 tyres same issue weird size next to no choice.

[Racing Dave]

this is a great Honda trick running weird tyres sizes, try getting PC800 tyres same issue weird size next to no choice.

If running odd tyre sizes keeps even one PC800 off the road, then it's worthwhile.

[ellipsis]

...at the risk of ending up a post in this thread later, I will volunteer my optimism now...I don't want to sell my '78 GL1000 because, (insert all the fucked up reasons for hanging onto a bike you don't and probably wont ride again)...

...it is a completely original GL which is a lie because it comes with the complete Vetter livery from Windjammer to all the boxes and seat, which were not part of any Honda GL1000 at the time...it runs like a dream, has a couple of rust spots on the chrome bits hanging the Windjammer, has a coke can wrapped around the exhaust balance pipe under the motor, which works really well...it needs a front tyre and after sitting for any length of time the back brake pads get a little seized on the discs...it will piss through a warrant anytime with a new tyre and next year is it's 40th birthday so it is cheap rego...what do the panel think it's worth...I'd like 4k but I'm open to advice from those who may want to take the piss or even be serious...it's hard to tell on here at times...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Another one of Crosby's dreams.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1425016562.htm

[HenryDorsetCase]

...at the risk of ending up a post in this thread later, I will volunteer my optimism now...I don't want to sell my '78 GL1000 because, (insert all the fucked up reasons for hanging onto a bike you don't and probably wont ride again)...

...it is a completely original GL which is a lie because it comes with the complete Vetter livery from Windjammer to all the boxes and seat, which were not part of any Honda GL1000 at the time...it runs like a dream, has a couple of rust spots on the chrome bits hanging the Windjammer, has a coke can wrapped around the exhaust balance pipe under the motor, which works really well...it needs a front tyre and after sitting for any length of time the back brake pads get a little seized on the discs...it will piss through a warrant anytime with a new tyre and next year is it's 40th birthday so it is cheap rego...what do the panel think it's worth...I'd like 4k but I'm open to advice from those who may want to take the piss or even be serious...it's hard to tell on here at times...

I'd love it but can't justify the expense at the mo. Unless I swap you my GS550 with cash your way?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Another one of Crosby's dreams.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1425016562.htm

I saw that and thought to myself that he was being a bit optimistic. I didnt think that they were that collectable or desirable - just old.

[F5 Dave]

I'd have 4 of those before 1/2 the shit on here that has been skilsawfully modified.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I saw that and thought to myself that he was being a bit optimistic. I didnt think that they were that collectable or desirable - just old.


I'd have 4 of those before 1/2 the shit on here that has been skilsawfully modified.

The MKII's never used to be collectable, but they are becoming more so now. Still never pay you 23 K for one though. It's weird how things go. Many years ago, Z1R's weren't at all collectable, everyone wanted Z1's. Now, a nice Z1R will often collect more than a Z1.

[jellywrestler]

I saw that and thought to myself that he was being a bit optimistic. I didnt think that they were that collectable or desirable - just old.

Why does everyone have to have the 'thing to have' rather than follow their own passion?
There's a shitload of shitty bikes on our roads worth way more than this, true it's not cheap, but there's plenty of people around who if they follow their hearts and heads would rather pay for a bike that has been rebuilt to a standard like this than other shit that they look cool to their mates on.

[Crasherfromwayback]

like this than other shit that they look cool to their mates on.

Therein lies the problem. There are so many cunts with groomed beards out there, that have too much money, that know nothing about bikes, paying fucking stupid money for heaps of fucking shit, simply to buy into a lifestyle. Hipster MoFo's.

[jasonu]

Therein lies the problem. There are so many cunts with groomed beards out there, that have too much money, that know nothing about bikes, paying fucking stupid money for heaps of fucking shit, simply to buy into a lifestyle. Hipster MoFo's.

Sounds like an accurate description of a lot of Hardley owners.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sounds like an accurate description of a lot of Hardley owners.

Yeah. But at least most of them get out and ride 'em often and far.

[Maha]

Sounds like an accurate description of a lot of Hardley owners.

Accurate = Park Drive tobacco stained moustache with a leather vest/jacket burdened with 856 badges from the 856 events he has attended over the years, plus the Lion Red induced waistline hanging over the faux bull denim jeans which barely covers the 1970’s etched Tan leather cowboy boots. :2guns:

[jasonu]

Accurate = Park Drive tobacco stained moustache with a leather vest/jacket burdened with 856 badges from the 856 events he has attended over the years, plus the Lion Red induced waistline hanging over the faux bull denim jeans which barely covers the 1970’s etched Tan leather cowboy boots. :2guns:

I was thinking more like this.
https://www.google.com/search?q=wild+hogs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif8dWA9cHWAhUP7GMKHersDUQQ_AUICigB&biw=1024&bih=690#imgrc=LgQ8gJQgHIubLM:

[T.W.R]

Accurate = Park Drive tobacco stained moustache with a leather vest/jacket burdened with 856 badges from the 856 events he has attended over the years, plus the Lion Red induced waistline hanging over the faux bull denim jeans which barely covers the 1970’s etched Tan leather cowboy boots. :2guns:

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=312121&d=1432338770

[Honest Andy]

GL1000...what do the panel think it's worth...I'd like 4k but I'm open to advice from those who may want to take the piss or even be serious...it's hard to tell on here at times...

My memory is a bit hazy but roughly 3 or 4 months ago on TradeMe a naked '75 went for about 5k. I think. It was very tidy but had done over 100,000km.
So put a start bid of 4k to get things started and sit back and watch :yes:

[Pound]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1427442362.htm

"makes around 240 hp"


Give or take a few hp I'm sure.............................:rolleyes:

[Drew]

Why didn't he just get the cable and flash the ecu himself?

[pritch]

Why didn't he just get the cable and flash the ecu himself?

He might have. That might just be the name of the software he installed.

There is some nice fruit salad, like a TTX shock, but Two Muthas cans are not that flash.

[Drew]

He might have. That might just be the name of the software he installed.

There is some nice fruit salad, like a TTX shock, but Two Muthas cans are not that flash.

TTX is fucken good gear.

[russd7]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1427442362.htm

"makes around 240 hp"


Give or take a few hp I'm sure.............................:rolleyes:

and a zx14 should never be dressed in virginal white :oi-grr:

[AllanB]

but Two Muthas cans are not that flash.


Flashy price, the bike in question claims a full system - must be a $3k jobbie? https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/exhaust/auction-1423341309.htm


Don't like it in White.


I do like the pipes on this one
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1379254384.htm

[F5 Dave]

He didn't mention the twin turbos. Maybe there's three?

[pritch]

Flashy price, the bike in question claims a full system - must be a $3k jobbie?

I'm biased. A particular owners site I used to frequent did not like Two Brothers products at all. People who did have them complained of problems with fit and with discolouring of the carbon fibre. Although I did quite like the Two Brothers "stash" system. It converted a twin can system to a single can system, with an additional lockable fake can that could be used to carry items umm unobtrusively. Should you ever need such an arrangement. :whistle:

My Speed Triple has a full system, sans cat, I was told it was six grand worth, but I didn't pay. The system on the Triumph is three into one, so could be cheaper than some twin can systems.

From memory the price I was quoted for a Termignoni full system for my Ducati was $7,500, including chip. And no, I didn't get that I just went with cans.

[russd7]

I do like the pipes on this one
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1379254384.htm

a colour much more becoming for a zx

[babysteps]

I'm a huge fan of 2 Strokes, but surely this is taking the piss a bit........

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1420277840.htm