Optimistic sellers

[HenryDorsetCase]

nAH, THEY'LL STILL BE DRY SUMP MY FRIEND. tHEY'VE PROB JUST PUT THE OIL TANK ON THE SOFTAILS WHERE IT IS/WAS ON THE dYNA'S AND THE flh ENGINES, INSTEAD OF UNDER THE SEAT WHERE THEY USED TO BE. Cunting caps lock button!

LOL caps lock

https://www.cycleworld.com/2018-harley-davidson-softail-first-rides#page-3

definitely wet sump the shock is where the oil tank used to be.

[Banditbandit]

Yep. Tiny amount of travel, that's not well dampened either. Def only for pottering around on. Even then, no good for a bigger person.

Yeah - 1972 styling and 1972 suspension ..

It felt like the forks were out in front doing their own thing, independently of each other ...

[Crasherfromwayback]

LOL caps lock

https://www.cycleworld.com/2018-harley-davidson-softail-first-rides#page-3

definitely wet sump the shock is where the oil tank used to be.

Nah. Whilst I could be well wrong again, think you'll find that the oil tank on the softail motor, is simply where it's always been on the Dyna's and FLH's. You won't want a crank the size of wheel barrow tyres spinning in oil. I cannae see this engine being wet sump, as they ain't no sump on it. Mr Journo has got his wires crossed I think. Check the oil feed off the cyl in the pic. That goes to a sep oil tank me thinks. But hey, as said, I could be well wrong. Have to go see one in the flesh.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

definitely wet sump the shock is where the oil tank used to be.

Here's a pic of the Breakout mate...you can spot the filler for the sep oil tank under the rear shock preload adjuster.. So, from the engine pic, you can see the power unit, it's totally sep to the oil tank. So not true wet sump. It just has an oil tank, when the sump may be on a four cyl etc....333201333200

[jellywrestler]

Here's a pic of the Breakout mate..

Harley must have some fine people in marketing calling a bike after a disease epidemic! kind of goes somewhere to explaining the way they seem to treat nz dealers......

[HenryDorsetCase]

Here's a pic of the Breakout mate...you can spot the filler for the sep oil tank under the rear shock preload adjuster.. So, from the engine pic, you can see the power unit, it's totally sep to the oil tank. So not true wet sump. It just has an oil tank, when the sump may be on a four cyl etc....333201333200

Ah, so. thats interesting.... I never grovelled underneath it but I definitely will now. On a separate note I thought the great big knob (hur hur) above it was the oil filter not a preload adjustment knob!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ah, so. thats interesting.... I never grovelled underneath it but I definitely will now. On a separate note I thought the great big knob (hur hur) above it was the oil filter not a preload adjustment knob!

Nah. Oil filter is at the front of the engine unit, above the oil outlet tube, with it's back to us. Many bikes have oil tanks sep from the actual crank cases, so as to be dry dry sump. Think TRX850 etc.

[Crasherfromwayback]

kind of goes somewhere to explaining the way they seem to treat nz dealers......

Every NZ dealer should tell them to go fuck themselves. Not that it'd matter in the grand scheme of things.

[F5 Dave]

I'm surprised every customer hasn't told them that.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm surprised every customer hasn't told them that.

$23k ride away. Just saying.

[Crasherfromwayback]

For 8k, you can have this. Or not.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1456837852.htm

[F5 Dave]

$23k ride away. Just saying.

I really cannot imagine paying that much for a piece of ghey shit that still needs several k hrown at it before it is a slow badly handling ugly super ghey mobile with slightly more comfortable suspension.
How much is a GSXR thou with real technology and bad quality to make a Hardley look even worse? Fuk that's bad value.

[F5 Dave]

For 8k, you can have this. Or not.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1456837852.htm

Its kinda cool. Well a lot better than most of the 8k shit posted here. But hard to be sympathetic to a competition bike when there's always something lightyears more potent.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I really cannot imagine paying that much for a piece of ghey shit that still needs several k hrown at it before it is a slow badly handling ugly super ghey mobile with slightly more comfortable suspension.
How much is a GSXR thou with real technology and bad quality to make a Hardley look even worse? Fuk that's bad value.

I get that. In fact I shared that opinion for years.

But you know. I am older and fatter and slower and I want hot bitches to throw themselves at me (I mean, more than they do already) and I figure if I own the ultimate lifestyle accessory (TM) then I win.

Another point of view is this: Sure sprotsbikes are a lot of fun. But you can't use their capabilities on the road. You just can't. So, if you can't use the thing as its meant to be used then why not get something else. Like a standard (SV650, Honda Hornet 919, even Yamaha SR400, but Street Triple, Speed Triple, MT09, even MT10 etc etc) or an AD V bike (oooh, cool lets go up that road and see whats at the end of it) or a cruiser.

I love going fast round corners as much as anyone, and all that malarkey (how fast can I be going at the end of this motorway onramp if I nail this thing when I turn onto it) that sort of stuff.

Bur roads are dangerous as fuck and impacting anything at high velocity is bad.

I dunno: I think we are going to have to agree to disagree. I totally see your point, but it isnt the point I am making, nor is it the criteria I am using to assess a new bike I may be getting.

[F5 Dave]

Last two silly bikes I rode were 1100 Tuorno and a fully loaded R1M (Google it). I came back from the11 giggling like a schoolgirl. Owner said; you don't have to ride it like that. But I think, yes you kinda did.
The owner of the R1M said another owner told him it made you ride it like a wanker. He then agreed.
After riding it through some fast wairarapa back roads I parked it up in an intersection and told him I shouldn't ride it anymore. Afterwards getting on the STR it felt like a foofoo bike.

So yes. Sports Thous ridden on the road are too fast for me. But at the other end of the extreme- why cripple yourself?

[F5 Dave]

Have you ridden an early model Bandit 12? Big heavy bouncy but grunty and kinda fun bike mired by crap suspension and barely adequate quality. Much rather have one of those. I mean if you have to have a fairly blunt heavy road tool.

Or 5 for that price.

[YellowDog]

For 8k, you can have this. Or not.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1456837852.htm

I quite like that one. Not sure the price is reasonable, but it certainly is a fine example :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Its kinda cool. Well a lot better than most of the 8k shit posted here. But hard to be sympathetic to a competition bike when there's always something lightyears more potent.

Fuck that. I sold my RM400T for $8250.00, and it had Fox Forxs, shocks, and was basically brand new, all with NOS parts. I also gave him enough spares to keep running for the next 20 years or so. Unlike TM's, it has 12" of travel, and a useable power spread, and brakes that sort of work.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I quite like that one. Not sure the price is reasonable, but it certainly is a fine example :yes:

See post 8018.

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[AllanB]

I really cannot imagine paying that much for a piece of ghey shit that still needs several k hrown at it before it is a slow badly handling ugly super ghey mobile with slightly more comfortable suspension.
How much is a GSXR thou with real technology and bad quality to make a Hardley look even worse? Fuk that's bad value.

You are looking at it all wrong.

Head your mind this way for a minute - some like big boobs, some like small, some like slim, some like curves, blonde or brunette or dark or redhead? You get my drift - all different but the same but appeal to different people.

Now keeping the same mindset, apply to motorcycles - all are good, some types just appeal more to other riders.

[jellywrestler]

You are looking at it all wrong.

Head your mind this way for a minute - some like big boobs, some like small, some like slim, some like curves, blonde or brunette or dark or redhead? You get my drift - all different but the same but appeal to different people.

Now keeping the same mindset, apply to motorcycles - all are good, some types just appeal more to other riders.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm boobs...
some like women with long legs, some with short, i prefer something in between

[pritch]

some like women with long legs, some with short, i prefer something in between

And so say most of us. :whistle:

[Laava]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm boobs...... i prefer something in between

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/69344-Associations-a-picture-game?p=1131070123#post1131070123

[pritch]

For 8k, you can have this. Or not.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1456837852.htm

It's advertised as a Suzuki but the normal naming convention would have it a CZ/Suzuki. The price seems high for a "special" of no great note. And you'd need to have faith that the guy who did the job did it well. $8,000 worth of faith.

:whistle:

[jasonu]

This cunt has his decimal point in the wrong place.
https://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/d/1980-honda-ct70-custom/6376796760.html

[jellywrestler]

This cunt has his decimal point in the wrong place.
https://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/d/1980-honda-ct70-custom/6376796760.html

those little Z50 hondas can command twice that so it's probably the next bike coming through with the same type of people who inflate their actual worth

[Laava]

This cunt has his decimal point in the wrong place.
https://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/d/1980-honda-ct70-custom/6376796760.html

Imagine doing 70mph on that! Fuck....

[F5 Dave]

Nope.
Nope. Nope nope. Nope.

http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1460748757.htm

[F5 Dave]

I bought this 15 years ago and I want more than a grand more than I paid.

http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1461348406.htm

[F5 Dave]

Oh no! You know what this is huh? Its a poxy Savaged.

http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1472234641.htm

Cornering? No
Skin off rice pudding pulling ability? Nope
Reliability? . , , well OK, but you'd kinda want it to break down.

[F5 Dave]

These are pretty rare because they were a mistake. Preceded the quad bike and used to roll over at unfortunate times. But would you really want a mint one? What would you do with it?!??


http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1465620127.htm


Strangely I saw one yesterday on a sandy trail ride. He wasn't on the ride.

[F5 Dave]

Sorry for overload

This looks, , . .




Great.

And I'd gladly pay. . . that much for it:weird:

http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1463768869.htm

[jellywrestler]

These are pretty rare because they were a mistake. Preceded the quad bike and used to roll over at unfortunate times. But would you really want a mint one? What would you do with it?!??


http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1465620127.htm


Strangely I saw one yesterday on a sandy trail ride. He wasn't on the ride.

peice of racing history....

[Ocean1]

These are pretty rare because they were a mistake. Preceded the quad bike and used to roll over at unfortunate times. But would you really want a mint one? What would you do with it?!??

If you take an ill advised dab you can use them to run up the back of your leg and fuck your knee up. :laugh:

[husaberg]

These are pretty rare because they were a mistake. Preceded the quad bike and used to roll over at unfortunate times. But would you really want a mint one? What would you do with it?!??


http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1465620127.htm


Strangely I saw one yesterday on a sandy trail ride. He wasn't on the ride.


The Yanks had a CR250 powered one (well almost a CR250)
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they even had a 2 wheeled conversion for dunes and stuff.
it was called the missle conversion.
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The old three wheelers esp the early lighter ones without suspension used to float as long as you were not onboard them so they were good at river crossings.
It was a useful feature here in whitebait country.
The three wheelers could also be lifted out of a bog and they would wheelie.

[AllanB]

I bought this 15 years ago and I want more than a grand more than I paid.

http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1461348406.htm

It's cool though. Some coin spend on fruit but as we know you do that for love not profit.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's cool though. Some coin spend on fruit but as we know you do that for love not profit.

I love that GS1200 but would never own it.... unless I hit the $38M on wednesday in which case I'll make an exception

[EJK]

Yeah nah

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1462934296.htm

[jellywrestler]

Yeah nah

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1462934296.htm

but it has an AUTO GEAR CHANGER .....

[EJK]

but it has an AUTO GEAR CHANGER .....

Broken caps lock too

[Navy Boy]

I went to go and take a look at an MV Agusta Brutale advertised on Trademe last night. I'd contacted the chap over a week ago to arrange the time and day and it's advertised as being 'Immaculate' and a lack of use being the reason for selling. I discovered that he'd lost his licence riding it rather too enthusiastically and his idea of 'Immaculate' isn't quite the same as mine (Or indeed many others I suspect).

Imagine my disappointment when I turned up to find it clearly having not had any TLC for some time. Unwashed and the battery that dead that the bike simply cut out as soon as the jump leads were disconnected... The battery was that far gone...

The kicker? he wants $18.5k for it... :facepalm:

[jasonu]

peice of racing history....

Maybe it could be raced at Buckets... side cars of course

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah nah

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1462934296.htm


LOL its in "Sports"

[AllanB]

I went to go and take a look at an MV Agusta Brutale advertised on Trademe last night. I'd contacted the chap over a week ago to arrange the time and day and it's advertised as being 'Immaculate' and a lack of use being the reason for selling. I discovered that he'd lost his licence riding it rather too enthusiastically and his idea of 'Immaculate' isn't quite the same as mine (Or indeed many others I suspect).

Imagine my disappointment when I turned up to find it clearly having not had any TLC for some time. Unwashed and the battery that dead that the bike simply cut out as soon as the jump leads were disconnected... The battery was that far gone...

The kicker? he wants $18.5k for it... :facepalm:

Triple or four? Wasn't that long back there were great deals on new 1090's like https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1463911172.htm weird thing on that link is the plate - it's advertised as a 2016 but has a old square plate?

[russd7]

Triple or four? Wasn't that long back there were great deals on new 1090's like https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1463911172.htm weird thing on that link is the plate - it's advertised as a 2016 but has a old square plate?

carjam suggests its first reg jan 2016,

[sidecar bob]

LOL its in "Sports"

To be fair, it's a fuckin site sportier than a sportster.

[spanner spinner]

Triple or four? Wasn't that long back there were great deals on new 1090's like https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1463911172.htm weird thing on that link is the plate - it's advertised as a 2016 but has a old square plate?

the old square plates are still available as a special order, "If you are ordering a motorcycle plate, it will be made in a One Line format. If you require a Two Line square plate ph 0800 736 253 (0800 REMAKE)" you can get a new plate number made up as a two line plate.

[neels]

the old square plates are still available as a special order, "If you are ordering a motorcycle plate, it will be made in a One Line format. If you require a Two Line square plate ph 0800 736 253 (0800 REMAKE)" you can get a new plate number made up as a two line plate.
Why the hell would you, the bloody things flexed too much at the mountings and fell off, one of the reasons for changing back to single line plates.

[Navy Boy]

Triple or four? Wasn't that long back there were great deals on new 1090's like https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1463911172.htm weird thing on that link is the plate - it's advertised as a 2016 but has a old square plate?

This was a four cylinder bike advertised as a 2015 model. I rode another example last night but wasn't too impressed to be honest. Looks nice though.

[Banditbandit]

Nope.
Nope. Nope nope. Nope.

http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1460748757.htm


You are right


Oh no! You know what this is huh? Its a poxy Savaged.

http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1472234641.htm


Savages make nice cafe racers - I'd pay that for one like that .. but I would rather have a GS1200SS ..



These are pretty rare because they were a mistake. Preceded the quad bike and used to roll over at unfortunate times. But would you really want a mint one? What would you do with it?!??


http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1465620127.htm


Strangely I saw one yesterday on a sandy trail ride. He wasn't on the ride.

They were scarey to ride .. not worth that price

[EJK]

This was a four cylinder bike advertised as a 2015 model. I rode another example last night but wasn't too impressed to be honest. Looks nice though.

What did you think? I also rode F3 800 few months ago and found that too throttle choppy for town riding.

[Navy Boy]

What did you think? I also rode F3 800 few months ago and found that too throttle choppy for town riding.

I also rode an F3 675 which I liked a lot. I suspect this particular Brutale needed some TLC so I don't want to judge it too harshly. The 675 was chuffing good though. I've traded my Harley Street Rod for it as I liked it a lot more than I was expecting.

[Banditbandit]

Why the hell would you, the bloody things flexed too much at the mountings and fell off, one of the reasons for changing back to single line plates.

I had exactly that happen with a one-line plate - luckily my mate behind me saw it go and picked it up .. I had no idea.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/184090-Suzuki-GT500


Five grand!

[Drew]

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/184090-Suzuki-GT500


Five grand!
I'd prolly give him three if I had it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'd prolly give him three if I had it.

Cool story. But you have neither the money, nor the taste.

[Drew]

It's not about taste. It's a nostalgia thing.

[nzspokes]

Cool story. But you have neither the money, nor the taste.

A mate has a minter blue one, and its proper mint. I saw that one and thought it would be a great project.

For somebody else.

[Drew]

A mate has a minter blue one, and its proper mint. I saw that one and thought it would be a great project.

For somebody else.
I had a Titan and a GT when I was a lad of about 16 or 17.

They were rough as guts, ill handling, and horrible. Fuck I loved them

[F5 Dave]

Yeah I'm starting to accept the RD400G project I'm pining for is now beyond my means.
Problem is that people are now expecting restore prices for projects. That GT500 is a project. Restore is lke 4 grand. Prolly 1/2 that would sort a going bike with all the bits there. Double it for something ragged and then keep adding zeros for something iconic.

[jellywrestler]

Yeah I'm starting to accept the RD400G project I'm pining for is now beyond my means.
Problem is that people are now expecting restore prices for projects. That GT500 is a project. Restore is lke 4 grand. Prolly 1/2 that would sort a going bike with all the bits there. Double it for something ragged and then keep adding zeros for something iconic.

yip, and save $450 a year on rego, as pre 1977 is classic rego, payback comes pretty quick so that's another reason the value is in the base product these days.

[Murray]

yip, and save $450 a year on rego, as pre 1987 is classic rego, payback comes pretty quick so that's another reason the value is in the base product these days.

Are you sure on that - Thought classic was 40 years old

[HenryDorsetCase]

yip, and save $450 a year on rego, as pre 1987 is classic rego, payback comes pretty quick so that's another reason the value is in the base product these days.

Pre 87? Pre 77 innit?

[jellywrestler]

Are you sure on that - Thought classic was 40 years old

oops, meant 77, i've got a couple of bikes heading that way next year, they're 1978

[F5 Dave]

My Stinger is a 1970, but struggling to think it would get a real rego on it.

[jellywrestler]

My Stinger is a 1970, but struggling to think it would get a real rego on it.

or a real rider...

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1478510828.htm


O RLY?

[Drew]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1478510828.htm


O RLY?Hahahahaahahaha. Not a gas shock, so no damping because it's upside down to clear the filter.

Prof as build.

[Banditbandit]

Hahahahaahahaha. Not a gas shock, so no damping because it's upside down to clear the filter.

Prof as build.

Yeah - it's a beach bike - $5,000 for a beach bike??? No ..

[Mike.Gayner]

I went to go and take a look at an MV Agusta Brutale advertised on Trademe last night. I'd contacted the chap over a week ago to arrange the time and day and it's advertised as being 'Immaculate' and a lack of use being the reason for selling. I discovered that he'd lost his licence riding it rather too enthusiastically and his idea of 'Immaculate' isn't quite the same as mine (Or indeed many others I suspect).

Yeah there's a lot of that shit around. Some (younger people in particular) need to re-read the definition of the word "mint" as well.

[AllanB]

No my preferred colours but effort has gone into it and it's realistically priced.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1479089750.htm?rsqid=WO6s5RhSlECpR22COYccNQ


There was a half baked non runner CB360 on TM a week back for $2k - dreaming.

[EJK]

Apparently you can sell a car that doesn't exist yet. $300k for a Holden, anyone? What am I missing?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/hsv/auction-1468263249.htm

[gsxr]

Holden are no longer produced in Australia so it is either a scam or the seller has been hacked

[Crasherfromwayback]

Apparently you can sell a car that doesn't exist yet. $300k for a Holden, anyone? What am I missing?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/hsv/auction-1468263249.htm


Holden are no longer produced in Australia so it is either a scam or the seller has been hacked

A friend of mine has one, they'll end up being silly money. One already sold in Aust for 100k more than the original price tag I think. And yep, they're built in Australia. Last ones ever though. Animal of a thing.

[HenryDorsetCase]

A friend of mine has one, they'll end up being silly money. One already sold in Aust for 100k more than the original price tag I think. And yep, they're built in Australia. Last ones ever though. Animal of a thing.

It'll be great when they put the taxi meter and radio and stuff in it. Does it come with the faint smell of cumin and coriander, and a wee man called Harpreet to drive it?

[EJK]

A friend of mine has one, they'll end up being silly money. One already sold in Aust for 100k more than the original price tag I think. And yep, they're built in Australia. Last ones ever though. Animal of a thing.

I guess there's historic value to the price then? However I'm still not convinced. Apart from LS9 engine in C6 ZR1 most parts would be shared with standard commodore, including cheap plastic dashboard panels and quirky media system.

Hey, it's buyers money, not mine.

[Banditbandit]

http://www.hsv.com.au/GEN-F2-2017/see/GTSR-W1/#home

It's as close to an aussie super car that's road legal as you are likely to get

[Crasherfromwayback]

I guess there's historic value to the price then? However I'm still not convinced. Apart from LS9 engine in C6 ZR1 most parts would be shared with standard commodore, including cheap plastic dashboard panels and quirky media system.

Hey, it's buyers money, not mine.

Well I sure as fuck wouldn't pay that for one. Not that I could actually afford the steering wheel from one. But it's a pretty cool and nasty car. Lots of angry sounding HP.

[jasonu]

http://www.hsv.com.au/GEN-F2-2017/see/GTSR-W1/#home

It's as close to an aussie super car that's road legal as you are likely to get

Looks like a tarted up commode with a Yank motor.

[Ocean1]

Looks like a tarted up commode with a Yank motor.

Other way around innit? Chevrolet use Australian V8s.

At least until next year, when I understand neither of them will be offering one.

[EJK]

Other way around innit? Chevrolet use Australian V8s.

At least until next year, when I understand neither of them will be offering one.

I'd always thought LS engines were from Murica' GM.

[AllanB]

Well I sure as fuck wouldn't pay that for one. Not that I could actually afford the steering wheel from one. But it's a pretty cool and nasty car. Lots of angry sounding HP.

Stupid money. Mind you looking at the stupid value of some of the old now collectible Holdens what do I know!

[Ocean1]

I'd always thought LS engines were from Murica' GM.

Nope, the Bro's LS3/LS4 Camaro is an Aussie unit. He reckons they're all made in Aussie.

[EJK]

Stupid money. Mind you looking at the stupid value of some of the old now collectible Holdens what do I know!

Falcon GTHO yes, but Holden? Hmmm nah! I dunno.

[F5 Dave]

Well that's why both the Aussie taxi makers closed up. Their market is going hybrid/electric and Uber has had a bit effect.

Anyway, Boar-rinnggg!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Stupid money. Mind you looking at the stupid value of some of the old now collectible Holdens what do I know!

Nick Mason's Ferrari 250GTO is allegedly worth 40 million. Pounds.

now THATS collectible.

Aussie piece of pooz? Meh, its worth whatever you can get at the recyclers for re-recycled eskys.

[T.W.R]

Nick Mason's Ferrari 250GTO is allegedly worth 40 million. Pounds.

now THATS collectible.

Watched that did you....see what was sitting in the background the majority of the show as they were talking in his garage :cool: type 35B Bugatti :drool:
Funny how they talked about the Ferrari though, brought for 40 thou in the 70s sold to fund the momentary lapse of reason tour and then he brought it back :rolleyes:
Amusing when the go for a drive was offered to Brian....he was all hell yeah and then Nick says as long as I drive :lol: then here they are screaming along in it yapping to each other and neither wearing the seat belts :clap:

[jasonu]

Other way around innit? Chevrolet use Australian V8s.

At least until next year, when I understand neither of them will be offering one.

A few years ago there was a rebadged Monaro on offer as a Pontiac GTO but that was the whole car. Pretty sure Chev make their own motors for Corvettes, Camaros etc.

[F5 Dave]

Who gives a rats?

Right back on track. Bid fast it closes soon

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1475027095.htm

[F5 Dave]

Should have left it on the junk pile

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1478931069.htm

Really? A bad investment of money ok we've all done that. But recognise what something is likely worth when cutting your losses not just what you spent.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Anyway, Boar-rinnggg!

Cars mostly are. But a big HP number is far from. Being pinned in ya seat is quite a hoot.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Right back on track. Bid fast it closes soon

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1475027095.htm

Where do I sign?

[AllanB]

Cars mostly are. But a big HP number is far from. Being pinned in ya seat is quite a hoot.

I really enjoy a decent car.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I really enjoy a decent car.

Yep. I've been in a few that nearly scare me. Something not quite right about accelerating as hard as a big motorcycle in a tonne and a half of metal.

[AllanB]

Yep. I've been in a few that nearly scare me. Something not quite right about accelerating as hard as a big motorcycle in a tonne and a half of metal.

I've thought about this over the years and reckon I have it pegged. On a fast bike, accelerating hard and fast you are also very exposed - picture yourself riding a missile. In a car, you have a illusion of a degree of security being fully caged.

Of course both are fine until shit happens.

[Mike.Gayner]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1477476996.htm?rsqid=2UmWz9El1UORh9PkSr644A


Be quick it will be gone fast!

Not at that price mate.

[AllanB]

Nick Mason's Ferrari 250GTO is allegedly worth 40 million. Pounds.

now THATS collectible.


If it was the very first model T Ford I'd say - yeah, maybe worth 40 mill (NZ) Anything else. Nah.

Which makes me wonder - just what is the most expensive collectible item in the world? Hand written original bible? Jesus's loin strap? Riding training with Cassisa?

[Ocean1]

If it was the very first model T Ford I'd say - yeah, maybe worth 40 mill (NZ) Anything else. Nah.

Neighbour had one, not pristine but close. Dunno what the family got for it when he died, under $10k anyway.

The thing about cars that age is understanding that they were built in that special era between tradesmen and hand tools and labourers and production machinery: Cheap labour and hand tools.

So you tend to find that the build quality is often absolute crap. An expert, evaluating a 1935 Auburn Speedster identified it as a very good copy in seconds, the panel fit was good, the trim detail was to almost modern standards and the exhaust headers were obviously done by someone more capable than the local school shop class.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Watched that did you....see what was sitting in the background the majority of the show as they were talking in his garage :cool: type 35B Bugatti :drool:
Funny how they talked about the Ferrari though, brought for 40 thou in the 70s sold to fund the momentary lapse of reason tour and then he brought it back :rolleyes:
Amusing when the go for a drive was offered to Brian....he was all hell yeah and then Nick says as long as I drive :lol: then here they are screaming along in it yapping to each other and neither wearing the seat belts :clap:

I did notice the Bugatti. And all the other Fazza's. Its not a great TV show but I sat through it....

http://pinkfloyd.eu/pictures/a-visit-to-nick-masons-car-colletion.html


I do like hearing Brian's accent. 'e's from Newcastle!

[HenryDorsetCase]

If it was the very first model T Ford I'd say - yeah, maybe worth 40 mill (NZ) Anything else. Nah.

Which makes me wonder - just what is the most expensive collectible item in the world? Hand written original bible? Jesus's loin strap? Riding training with Cassisa?

wearing Jesus loin strap while riding Cassina? are you as turned on as I am right now?

Nothing special about a Model T ford: for the same reason Honda Cubs will always have a value ceiing: they made millions of the fucking things and they are like cockroaches - unkillable.

There were only 39 GTO's ever made.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_250_GTO

[EJK]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1477476996.htm?rsqid=2UmWz9El1UORh9PkSr644A



Not at that price mate.

Holy crap ya dreamin' mate!

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1477476996.htm?rsqid=2UmWz9El1UORh9PkSr644A



Not at that price mate.
It was just a hunch, but surely enough,

The purveyor of the $9000 bucket is revealed once again. A truely optimistic seller.
Nice looking bike mind.

[Banditbandit]

It was just a hunch, but surely enough,

The purveyor of the $9000 bucket is revealed once again. A truely optimistic seller.
Nice looking bike mind.

But but .. it's go tons of extras ...

Powder-coated pillion footpegs ... a Gel seat ... after-market rear sets (no idea why - they are in the same place - just a different colour)


THat's all got to add - oh - a good 50c to the price ..

[F5 Dave]

He's always been real pleasant when I've met him so I won't diss him as a person. But the 9k bucket is still being used by the trolls on this site to try claim that . . .well I dunno, some troll shit.
Fortunately no one listens to Drew and Bob. Spyda, well, we kinda have to. He has a microphone.

Maybe Triumph owners are next. Hey that's a good point. Can you run a modern Oil leaker in BEARs now they are made in Thailand?

[sidecar bob]

He's always been real pleasant when I've met him so I won't diss him as a person. But the 9k bucket is still being used by the trolls on this site to try claim that . . .well I dunno, some troll shit.
Fortunately no one listens to Drew and Bob. Spyda, well, we kinda have to. He has a microphone.

Maybe Triumph owners are next. Hey that's a good point. Can you run a modern Oil leaker in BEARs now they are made in Thailand?

Whats troll about telling the truth about the price being asked for a bike on trademe? Im sure you saw it too because it seems youre on trademe a fuckin site more than me, but it obviously suits your agenda to pretend it didnt happen for whatever reason.

[F5 Dave]

All i hear is Blah blah angry old man rant.

[Drew]

All i hear is Blah blah angry old man rant.

Since you don't have a bucket to push anymore, would you have a turn on a superbike?

[YellowDog]

I've thought about this over the years and reckon I have it pegged. On a fast bike, accelerating hard and fast you are also very exposed - picture yourself riding a missile. In a car, you have a illusion of a degree of security being fully caged.

Of course both are fine until shit happens.

Years ago, when I was rich and successful (pre-Divorce) I used to have a 5.0ltr V8 and 250Kph was quite achievable. There was a certain enjoyable buzz that went with that.

I would say that 180Kph, on a motorcycle, is even more enjoyable. Particularly around the long sweeping bends.

[F5 Dave]

No way is this selling for this

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1481868596.htm

[F5 Dave]

This guy keeps banging on at the same price as the seasons change back and forth.

There's little market for it. It's too old for being competitive in a class that's depleted. If you lie a bit for pre89 it's only a 125.

6k? Who's going to buy it? At least in NZ. Despite being some HRC coolness.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1449117540.htm

[sidecar bob]

All i hear is Blah blah angry old man rant.

Really? You should get some help for that, or pull your head out of your arse.
You seem to be in some kind of denial, which is sad, because you are a world expert on what people should be asking for stuff.
You could start a website called "Ask Dave" so people could get their bikes priced accurately just from a few crappy photos to prevent embarrassment when they list their bikes on trademe.
You could also pretend certain bikes were never on there as & when it suits your agenda.

[F5 Dave]

Aww. What's the matter?

Its alright for you to purposely trol and bait in the bucket section but you get in a huff when people don't take you seriously thereafter?
Goes with the territory.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This guy keeps banging on at the same price as the seasons change back and forth.

There's little market for it. It's too old for being competitive in a class that's depleted. If you lie a bit for pre89 it's only a 125.

6k? Who's going to buy it? At least in NZ. Despite being some HRC coolness.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1449117540.htm

Sold my 92 RS250 for that when I started racing 883's. Kicking myself now.

[HenryDorsetCase]

All i hear is Blah blah angry old man rant.

I want that on my tombstone.

[HenryDorsetCase]

No way is this selling for this

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1481868596.htm

Its been for sale for a year now. It started at $22k I believe.

[YellowDog]

You could start a website called "Ask Dave" so people could get their bikes priced accurately just from a few crappy photos to prevent embarrassment when they list their bikes on trademe.

Sound like a pretty good idea, but then it might spoil this thread, which is one of the best on KB :yes:

[YellowDog]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1477476996.htm?rsqid=2UmWz9El1UORh9PkSr644A



Not at that price mate.


Nice condition bike, with loads of extras. But the MY18 model is what people now want and the days of flogging dressed up old models, at a high price, are well and truly gone.

[pritch]

I want that on my tombstone.

I always liked Spike Milligan's, "I told you I was sick".

That Kawasaki is just twenty minutes down the road but... It's nice, and I like the model, but nah. And definitely not at that price. Maybe it'd be worth more overseas?

[AllanB]

No way is this selling for this

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1481868596.htm

Hmmm - it is collectible. Value in NZ? I don't know.

[F5 Dave]

Well its nice. Its old. It looks original I guess. But its not an iconic game changer. And I can't remember wanting one when I was a kid.

[Mike.Gayner]

No way is this selling for this

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1481868596.htm

He's been re-listing that FOR-EVER.

[F5 Dave]

Bit like that 50k 70s white Hardley and the Be-ewe-al westwind

Here's the reminders

http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-887551588.htm


http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1112340200.htm

Hmm. I suspect he hasn't done his research very well.

This might well be the only product of the Buell Motor Company currently in New Zealand?


Really?

[AllanB]

Bit like that 50k 70s white Hardley and the Be-ewe-al westwind


http://trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1112340200.htm

Hmm. I suspect he hasn't done his research very well.

This might well be the only product of the Buell Motor Company currently in New Zealand?


Really?


Is rare because it is a lemon bike a reason to charge more?

[F5 Dave]

That is an excellent question.
Let's ask Dave;

I'd say, generally, no - fuck off ya dick. Keep your XZ400.



But in some cases, after time, that very failure of an outlier makes it worthy of collection as it is noteworthy.
TX750s with their novel balancing system are picking up in value.
RE5
Maybe, I say maybe MVX250. Honda's we have to do it differently fall -on- their- face 2 stroke pocket rocket.


And what of sales flops?
I'd say less value but sometimes worthy of note. Someone here has a Hesketh. I'd grouped them as Lemon as they kept closing up shop, but as it turned out that was business incompetence rather than the actual bike. Yamaha GTS, I rode one and really rated it as a decent ports tourer.
Two examples of wrong bike for the market at the time. I think people are less likely to pay the dollars, suppressing the price commanded.

[Drew]

That is an excellent question.
Let's ask Dave;

I'd say, generally, no - fuck off ya dick. Keep your XZ400.



But in some cases, after time, that very failure of an outlier makes it worthy of collection as it is noteworthy.
TX750s with their novel balancing system are picking up in value.
RE5
Maybe, I say maybe MVX250. Honda's we have to do it differently fall -on- their- face 2 stroke pocket rocket.


And what of sales flops?
I'd say less value but sometimes worthy of note. Someone here has a Hesketh. I'd grouped them as Lemon as they kept closing up shop, but as it turned out that was business incompetence rather than the actual bike. Yamaha GTS, I rode one and really rated it as a decent ports tourer.
Two examples of wrong bike for the market at the time. I think people are less likely to pay the dollars, suppressing the price commanded.
The lemons do seem to generally have silly value, if one manages to keep them going. The XZ being an exception, since they didn't try and do anything different, instead just building a piece of shit.

The Hesketh I know of is pretty friggin cool. I'd never heard of it before, and the resto done on it is proper. Done to the standard it would have come from the factory, instead of perfect in every way possible. Fuck knows what they're worth though. Not a question I ask someone about stuff like that.

[pritch]

I seem to recall the Hesketh had gearbox problems. The testers had either overlooked it because they could ride around it, or for nationalistic reasons. Owners though were not so happy.

[T.W.R]

The Honda CB750 automatic would have to be right up there as a lemon, but highly desirable just because of the oddity that it is.....ever seen one in the flesh?

That aussie thing, the Hunwick Hellum that was a storm in a tea cup

Those Voxan things, they were short lived here....suppose they'll end up as a collectible oddity.

The Hesketh got a heap of articles from when they were 1st aired to the public through to initial tests and interviews with Lord Hesketh about the bike

[Grumph]

The whole automatic fiasco of the 80's produced a bunch of collectibles that should have gone straight to a museum. Guzzi, Honda, anyone realise that Suzuki actually sold a small GS twin automatic ? Competition for the Honda 400 auto.
Yamaha should have been on a winner with the TX500 - 8 valve twin cam twin - but they cracked heads and got dropped when the TX750 did. Both rare now.

I can't think of a bike equivalent of the Bugatti type 35 series. It's pretty well documented that there are more "genuine" type 35's in existence than ever came out of the works...A result of building them up from as little OE content as just a gearbox and back axle...

Some years back I helped a guy - coincidentally about Daves size and build - restore a Ducati mach one. I suggested to him that it would be worth collecting similar 250 sporting singles as he liked that kind of thing. Honda did a 250 version of the 500TT, Kawsaki the BR, Yamaha the cafe styled V twin for a variation.
He understood the idea and liked it but never did it.

[T.W.R]

The whole automatic fiasco of the 80's produced a bunch of collectibles that should have gone straight to a museum. Guzzi, Honda, anyone realise that Suzuki actually sold a small GS twin automatic ? Competition for the Honda 400 auto.
Yamaha should have been on a winner with the TX500 - 8 valve twin cam twin - but they cracked heads and got dropped when the TX750 did. Both rare now.

I can't think of a bike equivalent of the Bugatti type 35 series. It's pretty well documented that there are more "genuine" type 35's in existence than ever came out of the works...A result of building them up from as little OE content as just a gearbox and back axle...

Some years back I helped a guy - coincidentally about Daves size and build - restore a Ducati mach one. I suggested to him that it would be worth collecting similar 250 sporting singles as he liked that kind of thing. Honda did a 250 version of the 500TT, Kawsaki the BR, Yamaha the cafe styled V twin for a variation.
He understood the idea and liked it but never did it.

The GS450A was a semi cruiser and even used different engine casings to the standard GS450 ;)

The old man and his mate built 2 replica Bugatti type35 based on VW chassis

Those wee BR250 kwakas were actually a nice looking bike.....shame they didn't do a big brother version with the 650 motor to go head to head against the GB/XBR hondas & SRX Yamahas :yes:

[Drew]

The whole automatic fiasco of the 80's produced a bunch of collectibles that should have gone straight to a museum. Guzzi, Honda, anyone realise that Suzuki actually sold a small GS twin automatic ? Competition for the Honda 400 auto.
Yamaha should have been on a winner with the TX500 - 8 valve twin cam twin - but they cracked heads and got dropped when the TX750 did. Both rare now.

I can't think of a bike equivalent of the Bugatti type 35 series. It's pretty well documented that there are more "genuine" type 35's in existence than ever came out of the works...A result of building them up from as little OE content as just a gearbox and back axle...

Some years back I helped a guy - coincidentally about Daves size and build - restore a Ducati mach one. I suggested to him that it would be worth collecting similar 250 sporting singles as he liked that kind of thing. Honda did a 250 version of the 500TT, Kawsaki the BR, Yamaha the cafe styled V twin for a variation.
He understood the idea and liked it but never did it.
The Guzzi California auto was perfectly acceptable for its application. Even with the masses of loss through it, they go surprisingly well.

[Mike.Gayner]

Hopefully not optimistic, but you lot can tell me if I'm on track with my asking price. Honest feedback please:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1482834509

[Grumph]

The Guzzi California auto was perfectly acceptable for its application. Even with the masses of loss through it, they go surprisingly well.

Not surprising - pretty sure the auto was first used with that engine in something else besides a bike. The inline crank and auto is a more logical layout anyway. And the engine had enough torque to make it viable. Probably the best of the autos.

[AllanB]

Hopefully not optimistic, but you lot can tell me if I'm on track with my asking price. Honest feedback please:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1482834509

I've looked at your add a few times - nice bike, I prefer the look of that model to the later ones. And some good fruit added to it. Kms will slow the sale but price it to suit.

[T.W.R]

The Guzzi California auto was perfectly acceptable for its application. Even with the masses of loss through it, they go surprisingly well.

Your thinking of the Convert V1000 it came out in 75 & continued to the early 80s, the Cali had already been around since 71 and was still in 850 guise when the convert was released :msn-wink:

[F5 Dave]

Hopefully not optimistic, but you lot can tell me if I'm on track with my asking price. Honest feedback please:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1482834509
Like the pipe

[F5 Dave]

. . .

Some years back I helped a guy - coincidentally about Daves size and build . . . .
So being that the last time we met it was pretty clear that I'm taller than you. I'm working on the breadth.

[T.W.R]

:crazy: $5250

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1482859272.htm

[AllanB]

:crazy: $5250

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1482859272.htm

Oh dear. All that work and money and IMO it has devalued the bike. The same effort and expense into a restoration would have value.

[neels]

:crazy: $5250

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1482859272.htm
My eyes :blink:

Must have been a special on yellow paint that week, there's a lot of work to turn that back into something that a right minded person would be seen riding.....

[YellowDog]

Hopefully not optimistic, but you lot can tell me if I'm on track with my asking price. Honest feedback please:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1482834509

I was thinking $6500-$7000, before I saw the price. Ks are a bit high. Nice bike :)

[jasonu]

:crazy: $5250

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1482859272.htm

Which led to this

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1476558650.htm

[T.W.R]

Which led to this

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1476558650.htm

Saw that a few days back, it's cheaper though rougher than this one

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1478372502.htm?rsqid=hepAElz4SUKlFQuRy4lhBw

The prices they're asking are pretty damn close to what they were new :yes: One of the guys I've ridden with since that era had one of the 1st NS250Rs sold in ChCh (first 6 sold by Casbolts) I rode that bike plenty of times & I actually do like them :yes: Far better bike than the RZ250RR he had prior.
I'd like to have the 400 sitting the shed for special occasions :innocent:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Saw that a few days back, it's cheaper though rougher than this one

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1478372502.htm?rsqid=hepAElz4SUKlFQuRy4lhBw

The prices they're asking are pretty damn close to what they were new :yes: One of the guys I've ridden with since that era had one of the 1st NS250Rs sold in ChCh (first 6 sold by Casbolts) I rode that bike plenty of times & I actually do like them :yes: Far better bike than the RZ250RR he had prior.
I'd like to have the 400 sitting the shed for special occasions :innocent:

I had a mate with one too - it was his "learner" bike. I have a model of Mr F. Spencer's NS500R Grand Prix bike 1983 and I reckon you could vinyl wrap one of those in the HRC colours and it would look mint. I could ride it wearing my F. Spencer Arai. And look like a complete pillock.

[T.W.R]

I had a mate with one too - it was his "learner" bike. I have a model of Mr F. Spencer's NS500R Grand Prix bike 1983 and I reckon you could vinyl wrap one of those in the HRC colours and it would look mint. I could ride it wearing my F. Spencer Arai. And look like a complete pillock.

The one my mate had was fitted with a factory rear seat cowl......the silly bugger paid something like $500 for it & had to wait nearly 2mths for it to be sent out from japan. He got the bike after he & his RZ were skittled at the Ferry Rd/Fitzgerald Ave intersection though both those were a step up from having had 2 CG110s prior that he used to commute between ChCh & Geraldine :lol: so the NS was a huge step up. He actually ended up swapping it after a couple of years with a workmate for a 1yr old 750SE Katana

[EJK]

$3.5k 11 years old. I remember Suzuki were selling them for $2990 brand new.

[russd7]

$3.5k 11 years old. I remember Suzuki were selling them for $2990 brand new.

I take your 11yr old suzi and raise you 1 9 year old Keeway
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1464265279.htm?rsqid=2ae01afc4db9438fa6028f629c8c0 2fd

[F5 Dave]

I take your 11yr old suzi and raise you 1 9 year old Keeway
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1464265279.htm?rsqid=2ae01afc4db9438fa6028f629c8c0 2fd
Shit-oh-dear!!

[EJK]

I take your 11yr old suzi and raise you 1 9 year old Keeway
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1464265279.htm?rsqid=2ae01afc4db9438fa6028f629c8c0 2fd

I fold... :eek5:

[pritch]

This doesn't really belong here but it is causing a stir on social media and it's a bit quiet so... Somebody put a Yamaha 250 2 stroke MX engine in a Honda Grom thereby raising the hp from 9 to 49. Heh heh heh heh (maniacle cackle).

[EJK]

This doesn't really belong here but it is causing a stir on social media and it's a bit quiet so... Somebody put a Yamaha 250 2 stroke MX engine in a Honda Grom thereby raising the hp from 9 to 49. Heh heh heh heh (maniacle cackle).

I'll raise you this..!!!

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/ducati-1199-panigale-powered-honda-grom-is-as-insane-as-it-gets-104732.html

[T.W.R]

This doesn't really belong here but it is causing a stir on social media and it's a bit quiet so... Somebody put a Yamaha 250 2 stroke MX engine in a Honda Grom thereby raising the hp from 9 to 49. Heh heh heh heh (maniacle cackle).


I'll raise you this..!!!

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/ducati-1199-panigale-powered-honda-grom-is-as-insane-as-it-gets-104732.html

In ChCh in the 80s there was a CB900 powered Vespa lurking on the streets and supposedly a Fiat Bambina with a CB900 in it getting around as well :eek:

[jasonu]

This doesn't really belong here but it is causing a stir on social media and it's a bit quiet so... Somebody put a Yamaha 250 2 stroke MX engine in a Honda Grom thereby raising the hp from 9 to 49. Heh heh heh heh (maniacle cackle).

But is it Bucket legal???


I like it BTW...

[AllanB]

In ChCh in the 80s there was a CB900 powered Vespa lurking on the streets and supposedly a Fiat Bambina with a CB900 in it getting around as well :eek:

Pretty sure the Bambina was a road legal race build. Whale tail and all if memory serves.

I've seen a Vespa with one of the small (350/400) Honda fours (years back now) - it was a tidy fit.


Number 95 has been making me smile on Youtube for some time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4iKGMom3K0

[T.W.R]

Pretty sure the Bambina was a road legal race build. Whale tail and all if memory serves.

I've seen a Vespa with one of the small (350/400) Honda fours (years back now) - it was a tidy fit.


I remember the bambina wearing the whale tail, there were a couple of weird ones getting about...some guys that worked at the railways engineering workshops in Addington, there was a Bambina with an extended front & wheelie bars with a small block 327 sitting out for all to see, A Morris Minor with some V8 under the hood, the 4x4 Triumph 2000 & the V8 kit cars (firebirds & stingrays).
Used to see them quite regularly as two of them lived pretty close & the others were seen quite often around Riccarton.

The Vespa with the 900 was probably in the same bunch or maybe one of them as I'd see it once every couple of weeks in the arvo traffic on Clarence St heading to Straven Rd

I reckon this here would be great fun to get into FJ1200 powered Aussie Race Cars

http://bathurst6hour.com.au/sites/default/files/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/BMF.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

I remember the bambina wearing the whale tail, there were a couple of weird ones getting about...some guys that worked at the railways engineering workshops in Addington, there was a Bambina with an extended front & wheelie bars with a small block 327 sitting out for all to see, A Morris Minor with some V8 under the hood, the 4x4 Triumph 2000 & the V8 kit cars (firebirds & stingrays).
Used to see them quite regularly as two of them lived pretty close & the others were seen quite often around Riccarton.

The Vespa with the 900 was probably in the same bunch or maybe one of them as I'd see it once every couple of weeks in the arvo traffic on Clarence St heading to Straven Rd

I reckon this here would be great fun to get into FJ1200 powered Aussie Race Cars

http://bathurst6hour.com.au/sites/default/files/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/BMF.jpg

there was also the two engined Mini. I think it went spectacularly well but not for long... issues with gearbox synchronisation?

GSXR1000 powered Smart cars are a thing.

[T.W.R]

GSXR1000 powered Smart cars are a thing.

I'd love have something like that...just keep it bog stock to look at but have a hotrod motor under hood :laugh:

[YellowDog]

:crazy: $5250

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1482859272.htm

"She will only ever increase in value" :rofl:

[Mike.Gayner]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1486343357.htm?rsqid=888eae1ae1994e34a24010c58bfc0 d70

Good lord.

[dinosaur]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1487356542

[AllanB]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1486343357.htm?rsqid=888eae1ae1994e34a24010c58bfc0 d70

Good lord.

Did I fall into a coma and they became collectible while I was out?

[AllanB]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1487356542

Yeah - $2,000 - 2,400 I reckon tops.

[YellowDog]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1486343357.htm?rsqid=888eae1ae1994e34a24010c58bfc0 d70

Good lord.

Very low Ks, but the reserve is above $16k :nono:

[YellowDog]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1487356542

I quite like that setup. If it's been looked after as well as he states, I might go to $3k for that.

[Mike.Gayner]

Did I fall into a coma and they became collectible while I was out?

Absolutely not.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'd love have something like that...just keep it bog stock to look at but have a hotrod motor under hood :laugh:

https://thekneeslider.com/smart-car-plus-gsxr-equals-smartuki-a-very-smart-car/

[F5 Dave]

Absolutely not.
My reaction was an involuntary snort followed by an increasing chuckle.

Also why such low kms on such an old bike that's had fruit spent on it? Just don't get some people.

[Banditbandit]

Yeah - $2,000 - 2,400 I reckon tops.


I quite like that setup. If it's been looked after as well as he states, I might go to $3k for that.

It's a very nice example - a mate's bike - well looked after and excellent mods.

The $3,000 is well negotiable ...

[pritch]

I rode one of those CB1300s and liked it a lot, so much so that I thought of buying one new, but Bluewing had run out of the ones with half fairing. Can't remember, but I'd be surprised if it cost that much new?

[EJK]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1487356542

$3k ono for a well maintained GSF1200S tourer. I don't think that's optimistic, almost a bargain if you ask me. I bet that engine can do another 100,000kms easy.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's a very nice example - a mate's bike - well looked after and excellent mods.

The $3,000 is well negotiable ...

$1500 cash money and a packet of chups

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's a very nice example - a mate's bike - well looked after and excellent mods.

The $3,000 is well negotiable ...

I'm tempted to get it for donor parts for my Katana...

[Banditbandit]

$1500 cash money and a packet of chups

Not for me to say .. make him an offer ..


I'm tempted to get it for donor parts for my Katana...


Would seem to be a waste of that bike ...

[T.W.R]

It's a very nice example - a mate's bike - well looked after and excellent mods.

The $3,000 is well negotiable ...


Not for me to say .. make him an offer ..

Would seem to be a waste of that bike ...

That's too tight of package for a donor, if it's been maintained well there's another 100k in it easy ;)

Though what's up with the matt black repaint of the bikini ?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Would seem to be a waste of that bike ...


That's too tight of package for a donor, if it's been maintained well there's another 100k in it easy ;)



Nah, it's a perfect one for a donor. I want the front end and rear wheel. Could easily sell off the engine and a few other bits to lower the cost of the bits I need.

[AllanB]

$3k ono for a well maintained GSF1200S tourer. I don't think that's optimistic, almost a bargain if you ask me. I bet that engine can do another 100,000kms easy.

Nah - it's shy of 20 years old. Nothing collectible in the future about a white bread and butter Suzuki.

The fruit makes it more attractive but you never get coin back on that.

Don't get me wrong the thing looks well sorted and will probably do 300 thou with just basic routine maintenance.

For me it's sub $3k but then I'm not after one of them.

Alternatively I may be talking out my arse and the $3k budget is full of dungers making this example sweet. A research project for me this weekend.

[T.W.R]

Nah, it's a perfect one for a donor. I want the front end and rear wheel. Could easily sell off the engine and a few other bits to lower the cost of the bits I need.

I see differently :yes:

The way I see that bandit is as the sort of bike that could easily sit in the shed as a competent backup, a loaner for mates if their bike is out of action or as pops up here every now & then something suitable for an overseas visitor on a budget looking for a cheap bike to see the country on without having to follow the fashionista idea of having to be seen on a big name adventure tourer.
Or even someone who has a highly strung sports bike that slogs it commuting, the bandit would chug away all day saving the sports for cobweb clearing on the weekends.

The frugal part of me says for the sake of stripping a bike out for 2 components I'd rather find one with a toasted motor strip out what's wanted and the dismantle from there & recoup expenses through individual parts, might take a bit longer but can increase total return in the long run

[neels]

I see differently :yes:

The way I see that bandit is as the sort of bike that could easily sit in the shed as a competent backup, a loaner for mates if their bike is out of action or as pops up here every now & then something suitable for an overseas visitor on a budget looking for a cheap bike to see the country on without having to follow the fashionista idea of having to be seen on a big name adventure tourer.
Or even someone who has a highly strung sports bike that slogs it commuting, the bandit would chug away all day saving the sports for cobweb clearing on the weekends.

The frugal part of me says for the sake of stripping a bike out for 2 components I'd rather find one with a toasted motor strip out what's wanted and the dismantle from there & recoup expenses through individual parts, might take a bit longer but can increase total return in the long run
With you on all of that.

Looks like a bloody good 'tool' for 3k, and would be a great commuter if it wasn't for the $1k a year in rego and insurance to keep it legal. Ideal for someone to just jump on and ride with no surprises,.

It seems a horrible end to a very tidy bike for it to be wrecked for a couple of bits that could be sourced from something already broken, then again I'm one of those people that wants to save them all.....

[EJK]

Nah, it's a perfect one for a donor. I want the front end and rear wheel. Could easily sell off the engine and a few other bits to lower the cost of the bits I need.

You know, you could try making it into a bobber...

[F5 Dave]

Or a streetfightered bagger.


Or Badger.

I get those confused.

[Mike.Gayner]

LOL I know this has been posted here half a dozen times (at least), but the price has gone UP since I last saw it. This seller is the definition of truly delusional. The silly thing is he has a genuinely collectable bike worth some real money....but more like $9k than $20k.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1488876072.htm?rsqid=a5b440536e9c40178d1435787653c c21

[OddDuck]

Hmm

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-1482589182.htm?rsqid=85c1a576a29b4c618d996a130e9e0 eaf

The price is probably OK, it quite likely does everything the seller reckons but sweet jeebus you'd get some shit for being seen on it...

... Uber pizza delivery anyone?

[F5 Dave]

Yeah as I've said I believe Sam Morgan left that H2 in the original source code of Trade me.
With original pipes rather than those dreadful spannies it would help the price about 3000k. 9k is a bit mean but. . . would you get 14 with decent pipes? Say 11 with better aftermarket pipes. Heck I dunno but clearly the market says he's fukin nowhere near for the last several years.

[babysteps]

$3k ono for a well maintained GSF1200S tourer. I don't think that's optimistic, almost a bargain if you ask me. I bet that engine can do another 100,000kms easy.

Throw $500 at it and get this......

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VHpln3Y7C4g/VNjMD3PKTXI/AAAAAAAARE8/G8YI0qT1EXk/s1600/alessandro%2Bnappo%2B-001.jpg

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, nah. Heaps of shit then, old heaps of shit now.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1488158257.htm?rsqid=96916c9d206a42a38cb5cf36d9422 9c7

[Laava]

Throw $500 at it and get this......

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VHpln3Y7C4g/VNjMD3PKTXI/AAAAAAAARE8/G8YI0qT1EXk/s1600/alessandro%2Bnappo%2B-001.jpg

You'ld be lucky to get that front end for less than a grand...

[babysteps]

You'ld be lucky to get that front end for less than a grand...

Racetech internals are $175 ish......

[F5 Dave]

No they're not and that is fukn ugly.

[AllanB]

No they're not and that is fukn ugly.

Nah man your bike radar is off - that is cool. The Bandit Suzuki should have built instead of the fatty they released.

[Laava]

Nah man your bike radar is off - that is cool. The Bandit Suzuki should have built instead of the fatty they released.

Yep if they had put the decent front end on the bandit and the SV, things may have been way different...

[YellowDog]

Hmm

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-1482589182.htm?rsqid=85c1a576a29b4c618d996a130e9e0 eaf

The price is probably OK, it quite likely does everything the seller reckons but sweet jeebus you'd get some shit for being seen on it...

... Uber pizza delivery anyone?

I thought those were mail delivery vehicles. But, what a pile of crap it is :(

[F5 Dave]

Nah man your bike radar is off - that is cool. The Bandit Suzuki should have built instead of the fatty they released.
Its the rear end. That seat is lame and just tacked on like an afterthought. Front is OK.

[jellywrestler]

Throw $500 at it and get this......


won't sell, without exhaust wrap, and a side mounted number plate light, you'll be laughed at without that shit

[HenryDorsetCase]

Its the rear end. That seat is lame and just tacked on like an afterthought. Front is OK.

Its that long tube that is just squooshed down and then welded. Horriffic.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Cheap way to go road racing...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1489796851.htm?rsqid=d3b09b5fd2bc49fa9200ee44e6244 ad9

[jasonu]

Cheap way to go road racing...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1489796851.htm?rsqid=d3b09b5fd2bc49fa9200ee44e6244 ad9

Almost looks to nice to be raced.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Almost looks to nice to be raced.

Yeah does look pretty good. I loved mine back in the day. Prob one of only 3 or 4 Yamaha's I've ever owned.

[Dave-]

Check out this clown:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1410423444

Waaaay too optimistic.

You guys should all check it out then tell all your friends about it and how they should chuck in a cheeky offer.

That'd be hilarious.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Check out this clown:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1410423444

Waaaay too optimistic.

You guys should all check it out then tell all your friends about it and how they should chuck in a cheeky offer.

That'd be hilarious.

four grand.

[Banditbandit]

Check out this clown:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1410423444

Waaaay too optimistic.

You guys should all check it out then tell all your friends about it and how they should chuck in a cheeky offer.

That'd be hilarious.


four grand.


It's a 10-year-old bike - and thrashed on a track - even 4grand sounds too much .. and it's not that fast - if it was he'd be boasting about it being a winning bike ..

[SVboy]

Check out this clown:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1410423444

Waaaay too optimistic.

You guys should all check it out then tell all your friends about it and how they should chuck in a cheeky offer.

That'd be hilarious.

Whoops, slight backfire there Dave!

[Dave-]

Whoops, slight backfire there Dave!

Haha, no such thing as bad publicity :lol:

Least it's not as bad as this guy!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1337LOLBBQ (https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1410423444)

I can't believe how many red and white r6's there are on trade me at the moment, here's another one!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=145653543543654 (https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1410423444)

[Drew]

Check out this clown:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1410423444

Waaaay too optimistic.

You guys should all check it out then tell all your friends about it and how they should chuck in a cheeky offer.

That'd be hilarious.

Pillock. That is all.

[Dave-]

Pillock. That is all.

Calm ya farm.

[T.W.R]

Surprised this old girl hasn't sold yet :yes: It's had a few bits n pieces added and removed over the years but still looks pretty much how it did 30yrs ago though she was sporting a Sagar 4-1 back then :shifty:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1483056026.htm?rsqid=ce01d1c2913044a5b66733ae3fb29 552

[HenryDorsetCase]

Surprised this old girl hasn't sold yet :yes: It's had a few bits n pieces added and removed over the years but still looks pretty much how it did 30yrs ago though she was sporting a Sagar 4-1 back then :shifty:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1483056026.htm?rsqid=ce01d1c2913044a5b66733ae3fb29 552

Its the basis of my F.Spencer AMA Superbike replica.

[T.W.R]

Its the basis of my F.Spencer AMA Superbike replica.

:lol: Could well be! having seen it pop up on TM over the last ten yrs the owner who had it when it was living in Dunedin (about 3 owners back) took it out to near 1000cc & was running smooth bores on it :yes:

A good mate owned in the late 80s, he brought it from Whitings at which time it'd supposedly just had a full top end refurb etc. 1st weekend he had we did a long block run to Greymouth 2up and blew the head gasket coming back over Arthur's, so it was back to Whitings the following week :pinch:
But over the next few years spent many kms either chasing or being chased by it or seeing Matt do some of the most spectacular shit I've seen done on bikes on the old rolla dor :yes:
If I wasn't in the throws of sorting my property out for selling & running on a tight budget I'd buy it just for the memories :2thumbsup

[F5 Dave]

Everyone has clipped the ticket and I want to do the same.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1492243980.htm?rsqid=1e06c0eea52044d6b45ec7766c5de 7df

These things were a money sinkhole from new. Don't expect this to have gotten better with age.
Still kinda cool but I'd want the man looking after my fleet to be riding behind with my next choice so can swap and he can call up a van.

[F5 Dave]

Lot of bike for the money

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1481518413.htm?rsqid=30b93d8b8db64811bfb3cc1dbd3a9 1f3
So much so when I first rode one (actually maybe the 1300) I thought the tyres were flat. Off the side stand was a major effort.

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1491439474.htm?rsqid=6ed0787037114b848730460ee16a6 3e1I think you mean thirty dollars:nya:

[Murray]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1490715079.htm?rsqid=cf0d914083b34b218f26dd530c037 99f

What would my 650 be worth then

[F5 Dave]

Well there has been a few first model GSXR750s at that or a bit less. They must be worth collecting or as a rider considerable more potent. So less than that.

[F5 Dave]

Ive spent a lot on this so want every cent back on my lukewarm retro

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1474409417.htm?rsqid=ca1cd960b9ea43e48439471d6dd23 a56

Really! Can you think of a better place for 10k to go? And how many milliseconds did that take?
And how much was left over for the obligatorily Blow&Hookers?:love:

[Grumph]

Surprised this old girl hasn't sold yet :yes: It's had a few bits n pieces added and removed over the years but still looks pretty much how it did 30yrs ago though she was sporting a Sagar 4-1 back then :shifty:]

Well if you're identifying it as ex Dunedin - and i recognise the pipe - it's probably the one Kevin Orr and I picked up on the way back from a Burt a few years back. That had a Wiseco big bore, 1100 cams and 33CR's with a Dyna 2000 ignition plus a spare one too...He bought it for the ignitions and the carbs. I put a set of 31CR's on it and pulled it down to sort a gearbox problem. We ran it once at a CAMS meeting - and very competent it was too. Much better with 31's than 33's. He sold it to a guy in Auck who wanted to go pre 82 racing. We heard back it was too fast for owner...
My guess is someone's got the good engine....

The really funny bit was that it was a case of take everything the seller had - heaps of old pipes, centerstands, damaged cosmetics - mainly useless stuff. There was a wheelie bin left out from the property opposite, it got filled with what we didn't want....Kev didn't exactly get good trademe feedback for that, LOL.

[AllanB]

Everyone has clipped the ticket and I want to do the same.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1492243980.htm?rsqid=1e06c0eea52044d6b45ec7766c5de 7df

These things were a money sinkhole from new. Don't expect this to have gotten better with age.
Still kinda cool but I'd want the man looking after my fleet to be riding behind with my next choice so can swap and he can call up a van.


Interesting. So a bike that has sat for so long - I'm thinking a potential lot of issues once fired up and being used - gaskets pissing oil once heated etc.

But man oh man when on song with a rowdy 3-1 exhaust these sound so sweet. A chap down road had one he thrashed down my street when I was 10 or so. Left a lasting memory.

[AllanB]

Ive spent a lot on this so want every cent back on my lukewarm retro

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1474409417.htm?rsqid=ca1cd960b9ea43e48439471d6dd23 a56

Really! Can you think of a better place for 10k to go? And how many milliseconds did that take?
And how much was left over for the obligatorily Blow&Hookers?:love:

Way too expensive and I find it odd that so much has been done to a basically indestructible Kawasaki (those old school oil/air cooled ones last forever) - reckon it sat abandoned for a while?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Lot of bike for the money

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1481518413.htm?rsqid=30b93d8b8db64811bfb3cc1dbd3a9 1f3
So much so when I first rode one (actually maybe the 1300) I thought the tyres were flat. Off the side stand was a major effort.

I want you to buy that and then I want you to strip all that touring shit off it, put a decent front end in it (CBR1000 or RVT1000) with clipons and a single round headlight then a smaller tank, tidy up the aesthetics, single seat (XR750 style, or TZ750 or classic cafe racer hump). Then you'll need to sell it to me for $3500 with 12 months rego and a new WOF and new tyres.

sort of like this:

http://www.bikeexif.com/custom-motus-mst-r-fuller-moto

[T.W.R]

Well if you're identifying it as ex Dunedin - and i recognise the pipe - it's probably the one Kevin Orr and I picked up on the way back from a Burt a few years back. That had a Wiseco big bore, 1100 cams and 33CR's with a Dyna 2000 ignition plus a spare one too...He bought it for the ignitions and the carbs. I put a set of 31CR's on it and pulled it down to sort a gearbox problem. We ran it once at a CAMS meeting - and very competent it was too. Much better with 31's than 33's. He sold it to a guy in Auck who wanted to go pre 82 racing. We heard back it was too fast for owner...
My guess is someone's got the good engine....

The really funny bit was that it was a case of take everything the seller had - heaps of old pipes, centerstands, damaged cosmetics - mainly useless stuff. There was a wheelie bin left out from the property opposite, it got filled with what we didn't want....Kev didn't exactly get good trademe feedback for that, LOL.

I exchanged a few emails with a seller about 5yrs or so back about it, he told me he'd got it ex Dunedin juiced-up to buggery and it was too potent for him so tamed it down. I told him a bit of what I knew about the old girl as I recognised the number plate (77HKO) in the ad, but it's had later model front brakes fitted as well as braided lines etc. I sure the kms shown are suspect as it had nearly 60k on it when Matt brought it and we all covered some massive kms in those years.
When Matt had it it definitely got all of what it had to offer well used :yes: It used to do regular sub 1hr runs to Akers back in the day and lunatic shit around town.
The pic I put up it's sporting a CRC handy can lid aroldited to the timing cover as the nib got ground off when it was shoved under the back end of a ute one winter morning at the Moorhouse Ave/Lincoln Rd lights. It lived amongst us for a few years and if it could talk it'd tell some hellish stories :yes:

Found a pic taken at Little river on a nut run to akers

[HenryDorsetCase]

I exchanged a few emails with a seller about 5yrs or so back about it, he told me he'd got it ex Dunedin juiced-up to buggery and it was too potent for him so tamed it down. I told him a bit of what I knew about the old girl as I recognised the number plate (77HKO) in the ad, but it's had later model front brakes fitted as well as braided lines etc. I sure the kms shown are suspect as it had nearly 60k on it when Matt brought it and we all covered some massive kms in those years.
When Matt had it it definitely got all of what it had to offer well used :yes: It used to do regular sub 1hr runs to Akers back in the day and lunatic shit around town.
The pic I put up it's sporting a CRC handy can lid aroldited to the timing cover as the nib got ground off when it was shoved under the back end of a ute one winter morning at the Moorhouse Ave/Lincoln Rd lights. It lived amongst us for a few years and if it could talk it'd tell some hellish stories :yes:

Found a pic taken at Little river on a nut run to akers

Thats fantastic. I have similar memories of my GPz750. Good to see the uniform of jeans and unarmoured leather jacket and mullet held sway. I havent got enough hair to rock a mullet these days

[AllanB]

Thats fantastic. I have similar memories of my GPz750. Good to see the uniform of jeans and unarmoured leather jacket and mullet held sway. I havent got enough hair to rock a mullet these days

Back then anything starting with GPZ was the bizz. Mmmmmm GPZ900R

[T.W.R]

Thats fantastic. I have similar memories of my GPz750. Good to see the uniform of jeans and unarmoured leather jacket and mullet held sway. I havent got enough hair to rock a mullet these days

Ha, only a couple of us had leather jackets at that time, Matt had one of those Belstaff waxed cotton replica jackets that came out of Whanganui (Armstar if I remember right) and a mix of Puma & PRO helmets :lol: He ended up with hair almost halfway down his back and now is pretty much bald :rolleyes:
Though I've never ridden with some one who had so much natural ability, could be a right friggin lunatic but fuckin fast!! He ended up doing 8yrs over in London 7 of which he spent as a motorcycle courier; that used to make me laugh as he had naff all navigational skills :lol:

[Laava]

Back then anything starting with GPZ was the bizz. Mmmmmm GPZ900R

Lou Reed was a fan too! "New sensations"

[Grumph]

I exchanged a few emails with a seller about 5yrs or so back about it, he told me he'd got it ex Dunedin juiced-up to buggery and it was too potent for him so tamed it down. I told him a bit of what I knew about the old girl as I recognised the number plate (77HKO) in the ad, but it's had later model front brakes fitted as well as braided lines etc. I sure the kms shown are suspect as it had nearly 60k on it when Matt brought it and we all covered some massive kms in those years.
When Matt had it it definitely got all of what it had to offer well used :yes: It used to do regular sub 1hr runs to Akers back in the day and lunatic shit around town.
The pic I put up it's sporting a CRC handy can lid aroldited to the timing cover as the nib got ground off when it was shoved under the back end of a ute one winter morning at the Moorhouse Ave/Lincoln Rd lights. It lived amongst us for a few years and if it could talk it'd tell some hellish stories :yes:

Found a pic taken at Little river on a nut run to akers

Kev put the calipers on it. Legal pre 82, same as CB1100R. He rode it on the street for a short while and had got tired of it not stopping...
I may have dialled the cams while it was here... We reckoned it was a good starter pre 82. At the time we had just started on the GS1000 development but it was lighter, handled and stopped better than the Honda already. And those things are always waiting to break a camchain.
There was a shitload of engine spares came with it - most have gone to Sid Challoner to keep the Nico Bakker running.

[F5 Dave]

[QUOTE=HenryDorsetCase;1131076233]I want you to buy that and then I want you to strip all that touring shit off it, put a decent front end in it (CBR1000 or RVT1000) with clipons and a single round headlight then a smaller tank, tidy up the aesthetics, single seat (XR750 style, or TZ750 or classic cafe racer hump). Then you'll need to sell it to me for $3500 with 12 months rego and a new WOF and new tyres.

sort of like this:

http://www.bikeexif.com/custom-motus-mst-r-fuller-moto
Probably won`t make it out of my garage without a 2 stroke engine in it.

[T.W.R]

$15k mmm yeah nah, maybe if it was mint original & a fraction of the kms. And there's more than 3 of them in the country too

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1489410165.htm?rsqid=aea59cb5cfd54d6a8d2de64af2ad9 83e

[AllanB]

Someone spent a lot on the web.....

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1491309228.htm?rsqid=83c0c44c2a3a47eba4c4586ae12ba 6d6

[HenryDorsetCase]

Someone spent a lot on the web.....

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1491309228.htm?rsqid=83c0c44c2a3a47eba4c4586ae12ba 6d6

The Carbon key surround is what makes it for me. Who the fuck spends 65quid ($130NZD plus shipping probably) on fucking fripperies and geegaws? Why not spend your money on actual performance enhancement on a performance bike? Crabon wheels, say, and adding lightness.

Fuck people.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Someone spent a lot on the web.....

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1491309228.htm?rsqid=83c0c44c2a3a47eba4c4586ae12ba 6d6

What.

A.

Fucking.

Dreamer.

[jellywrestler]

What.

A.

Fucking.

Dreamer.

no exhaust wrap, what a rebel

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1495242465.htm?rsqid=673ff37bd131404099e03c3001de7 d21


Anybody here care to comment? I know nothing about Ducatis really but $43k seems like a lot of money. Having said that: iconic model (916) and rare-ish variant (SPS) as I understand it. plus under a thousand km.

[Crasherfromwayback]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1495242465.htm?rsqid=673ff37bd131404099e03c3001de7 d21


Anybody here care to comment? I know nothing about Ducatis really but $43k seems like a lot of money. Having said that: iconic model (916) and rare-ish variant (SPS) as I understand it. plus under a thousand km.

Tell him he's dreaming.

[pritch]

Tell him he's dreaming.

He says he's trying hard to sell it. At $43,000 though I'm not convinced.

[Crasherfromwayback]

He says he's trying hard to sell it. At $43,000 though I'm not convinced.

What a fucking sifter. No way he'll get anywhere close. Neither should he.

[OddDuck]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1495242465.htm?rsqid=673ff37bd131404099e03c3001de7 d21


Anybody here care to comment? I know nothing about Ducatis really but $43k seems like a lot of money. Having said that: iconic model (916) and rare-ish variant (SPS) as I understand it. plus under a thousand km.

Something very odd going on here, the 996 engine is referred to twice but as far as I understand, none of the 916's had that capacity. The 996 was introduced in 1999, the bike advertised is supposed to be the pinnacle of the 916 line in the last year of production... which was 1998.

It's a seriously pretty bike but if the seller is being (ahem) economical with the bike's history, what chance do you have of getting your $43 K back?

[T.W.R]

Something very odd going on here, the 996 engine is referred to twice but as far as I understand, none of the 916's had that capacity. The 996 was introduced in 1999, the bike advertised is supposed to be the pinnacle of the 916 line in the last year of production... which was 1998.

They went 916, 955, 996 :msn-wink: brittle motors from the 955 upwards

$43k he's in La La land though :facepalm:

[AllanB]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1495242465.htm?rsqid=673ff37bd131404099e03c3001de7 d21


Anybody here care to comment? I know nothing about Ducatis really but $43k seems like a lot of money. Having said that: iconic model (916) and rare-ish variant (SPS) as I understand it. plus under a thousand km.

Now I too was interested in this sale and posted on the NZ FB Ducati page asking if it was a realistic price. No one has told me he's dreaming yet. Those limited edition ones do become collectible but that's up there IMO (somewhat uneducated opinion I may add). Shit you can order a new V4 and a new Scrambler for that!

Side note - I was more disturbed that it had only covered 800kms and lived in the lounge presumably as a investment piece of art.

[pritch]

They went 916, 955, 996 :msn-wink: brittle motors from the 955 upwards


I had a 996 in my S4R and it was fine. On the Ducati boards there was a lot of chat about chrome peeling off the cam followers with all kinds of arcane procedures that were to be followed to avoid this. I thought it more likely there was a bad batch and if your bike had those you were in trouble. From memory the cam followers were only about $100 each - but there's sixteen of them.

[T.W.R]

I had a 996 in my S4R and it was fine. On the Ducati boards there was a lot of chat about chrome peeling off the cam followers with all kinds of arcane procedures that were to be followed to avoid this. I thought it more likely there was a bad batch and if your bike had those you were in trouble. From memory the cam followers were only about $100 each - but there's sixteen of them.

S4R had the Testastretta 996 which was 5yrs development over the 996 Desmoquattro used in the 916SPS :msn-wink:
But the referral to being a brittle engine was more directed towards the 955 due to the fact they'd maxed out the engine casings and under race conditions and had plenty suffer from cracking & stress fracturing

[jellywrestler]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1495242465.htm?rsqid=673ff37bd131404099e03c3001de7 d21


Anybody here care to comment? I know nothing about Ducatis really but $43k seems like a lot of money. Having said that: iconic model (916) and rare-ish variant (SPS) as I understand it. plus under a thousand km.they made so may limited edition bikes that there's a flood of them around so nothing really special about them really, every second man and his dog has one

[Crasherfromwayback]

they made so may limited edition bikes that there's a flood of them around so nothing really special about them really, every second man and his dog has one

This guy must think Christmas makes buyers simple.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1500967216.htm?rsqid=6cdcbc9fef8f454d971051279cb8b a9a

[pritch]

This guy must think Christmas makes buyers simple.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1500967216.htm?rsqid=6cdcbc9fef8f454d971051279cb8b a9a

It might be a tad too picky of me but he says, "Wired for a trickle charger".
A. That's hardly a big deal,
B. Different charger brands use different connectors.

[Laava]

They come std wired for a trickle charger now. Not sure when that started...

[AllanB]

They come std wired for a trickle charger now. Not sure when that started...

When I purchased mine new it came with the charger as well :2thumbsup

[AllanB]

This guy must think Christmas makes buyers simple.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1500967216.htm?rsqid=6cdcbc9fef8f454d971051279cb8b a9a

I did a bit of Googling as I've never seen one of them. 155 made for the USA and 155 for the UK. THe USA has the standard engine with better suspenders and of course the graphic fruit. UK got a hotted engine as well. UK should be worth more?

In the USA in 02 they were US$22,695 - now it appears they sell around $US10-15k depending on kms. Hardly a good investment.

Coys had one in the UK estimated to go for 17 -20,000 pounds! http://www.coys.co.uk/cars/2002-ducati-998s-ben-bostrom-race-replica

One thing for sure - it's one of the most unattractive 'special' limited edition Ducatis I've seen (personal opinion, if you love it tug away).

And they don't appear to get ridden a lot - all had really low kms, which for a lounge bike or pure collector is probably good, but if you wanted to actually use one I'd be avoiding something that only got started once a year and ridden 50kms ...

[AllanB]

I reckon this would be a better Ducati 'investment' if I win Lotto tomorrow night I may just give the seller a call. A good way to start my collection ..... hmmm sand cast 750/4 next ....

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1501052445.htm?rsqid=e44ab7ea85be4f12b9777936a7693 624

And a interesting read about the bikes position in Ducatis history. http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/ducati/ducati_750f1_86.htm

[pritch]

That's the same guy. Wonder what else he's got?

Well actually, he's got quite a lot and the ones I checked look like recent imports. He's got himself a good source wherever it is.

[AllanB]

That's the same guy. Wonder what else he's got?

Well actually, he's got quite a lot and the ones I checked look like recent imports. He's got himself a good source wherever it is.

Hmmmmm he does. Bimotas even. I'd figure NZ is a fairly limited market for exotic collections but I may be completely wrong as over the years I have bumped into a number of collectors of motorcycle greatness.

[Waihou Thumper]

Hi guys
You are the all in the know here with the prices of bikes.....
What do you think this one would be worth? Not looking at a huge price, just want to move it on.....

334211 All information can be found below.
I welcome any comments or feedback. Cheers!



https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/184368-VStrom-1000-Mike-Hyde-old-bike-is-now-for-sale-to-right-owner?p=1131077904#post1131077904


http://www.twistingthrottle.com/buy-bike.html

[F5 Dave]

Looks clean. Good luck man.
No idea for this sort of bike.
Best of wishes.

[rambaldi]

Hi guys
You are the all in the know here with the prices of bikes.....
What do you think this one would be worth? Not looking at a huge price, just want to move it on.....

334211 All information can be found below.
I welcome any comments or feedback. Cheers!



https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/184368-VStrom-1000-Mike-Hyde-old-bike-is-now-for-sale-to-right-owner?p=1131077904#post1131077904


http://www.twistingthrottle.com/buy-bike.html

It looks to be in good nick, probably between 4k and 6k before taking into account the bikes history? There have been a few newer models not go for as much as they should on Trademe recently but that may have just been people saving their pennies for Christmas. There was another 1000 (slightly newer I think) sitting on Trademe at 4100 for quite a while with similar k's but it was pretty much the base model, it hasn't been re-listed (after being put up a couple times) so I assume it finally went.

[Waihou Thumper]

It looks to be in good nick, probably between 4k and 6k before taking into account the bikes history? There have been a few newer models not go for as much as they should on Trademe recently but that may have just been people saving their pennies for Christmas. There was another 1000 (slightly newer I think) sitting on Trademe at 4100 for quite a while with similar k's but it was pretty much the base model, it hasn't been re-listed (after being put up a couple times) so I assume it finally went.


Thanks for that....
Yep, I was going to advertise it for $4500 no reserve or just a classified. There is a shit load of spares!