Optimistic sellers [Archive] - Page 37

Drew

26th March 2018, 14:37

OK, so I'm not an engineer and CBF trawling through the sidecar build thread, but to pick up on the point about short chain runs and layshafts and what not, the only one I have seen lately is this one: its the Classified Moto XR650 Big Wheel.

Would it have problems with the short chain run and jackshaft to clear the wide rear?

I am interested in a non-technical explanation if one is available.....

I love this bike - the first bike I ever rode was an RV90 (fell off it two minutes later and have been hooked ever since....) so this BW really appeals to me.

https://www.classifiedmoto.com/motorcycles/bw650/
A short chain gets really fucking hot. Then it snaps.

F5 Dave

26th March 2018, 17:32

Yeah but once some fat cunt sits on it that angle will mostly go away.

Oh and never mention Rosanne Barr on this forum ever again!!!
And the 700cc engine will try it's hardest to flatten it further until it pulls straight or chainsaws its way through the pivot point. Either would be funny. Neither conducive to good handling.

F5 Dave

26th March 2018, 17:36

A short chain gets really fucking hot. Then it snaps.
Huh! I would not have thought of that but it makes heapbigsense.

Unless you had room to run big sprockets which would take 2 of the 3 drivers out of the equation. Well, and make the chain a bit longer too for better cooling.

Grumph

26th March 2018, 18:52

Huh! I would not have thought of that but it makes heapbigsense.

Unless you had room to run big sprockets which would take 2 of the 3 drivers out of the equation. Well, and make the chain a bit longer too for better cooling.

Honda tried to make it work with the CB750/900/1100 16V family. One chain up the back to the inlet cam, then another short one across to the exhaust cam.
Guess which one broke regularly...

Drew

26th March 2018, 19:11

Huh! I would not have thought of that but it makes heapbigsense.

Unless you had room to run big sprockets which would take 2 of the 3 drivers out of the equation. Well, and make the chain a bit longer too for better cooling.

Yeah, I didn't think of it either.

Didn't have space for big sprockets. Oil bath would have worked, but it gets messy.

ellipsis

26th March 2018, 19:14

Honda tried to make it work with the CB750/900/1100 16V family. One chain up the back to the inlet cam, then another short one across to the exhaust cam.
Guess which one broke regularly...

...when my wife's CBX did a really big chain fuck thing, I couldn't believe how much chain protruded through so many bits of engine casings...

T.W.R

29th March 2018, 08:33

mmm take a reasonably unmolested bike chop it about a bit & dulux overhaul it then try to pretend it's something it'll never be and ask silly money :confused:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1584745823.htm?rsqid=f58a440b52d04a829c88ac8d15266 bd2

Voltaire

29th March 2018, 08:43

T.W.R

29th March 2018, 08:51

I like it, not 9K like but...:niceone:

It's nicely done job and they're a damn fine bike at their intended purpose but 250kg & 90 odd neddies it'll never be a cafe racer :msn-wink:
would've been far better off keeping it stock and sprucing it up as is. Did about 100kms as pillion on one many yrs ago and I know why they've got the rep as the "lazy man's tourer"....stock that seat is plush!

Voltaire

29th March 2018, 09:06

It's nicely done job and they're a damn fine bike at their intended purpose but 250kg & 90 odd neddies it'll never be a cafe racer :msn-wink:
would've been far better off keeping it stock and sprucing it up as is. Did about 100kms as pillion on one many yrs ago and I know why they've got the rep as the "lazy man's tourer"....stock that seat is plush!

This is a Cafe Racer
http://caferacertv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/discovery-hd-theater-cafe-racer-caferacer-tv-vintage-motorcycles-ace-cafe-london-rockers-59club-norton-triumph-triton-honda-historic-phot-29.jpg

The rest are just homages to that era.
I would like a new Thruxton but can't be bothered spending all that on a weekend toy.
From memory 650's had a about 40 HP and about 150 KG's, probably less of a power to weight ratio :laugh:

T.W.R

29th March 2018, 10:06

This is a Cafe Racer

The rest are just homages to that era.
I would like a new Thruxton but can't be bothered spending all that on a weekend toy.
From memory 650's had a about 40 HP and about 150 KG's, probably less of a power to weight ratio :laugh:

:lol: That bloke must have got around a bit back in the day, I posted a pic of him on a Kennedy Lister in almost the same pose 9yrs ago :rolleyes:

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/95072-Name-the-cafe-racer?p=1988518#post1988518

Might be a lower power to weight ratio but i know which one I'd rather be on in tight country :yes:

F5 Dave

29th March 2018, 12:29

I rescued one of those 1100s from the scrapper.
Diff, Suspension, paint, and some CBR brakes.

Made a great tourer. Lazy is right. I only sold it as it got a bit ponderous if riding with mates and they got a move on. Nothing 20yrs of chassis development wouldn't fix I always said.

The real answer is not try keep up or rides with the wife. We did some kms in comfort.
Best memory up 90mile beach in our bikinis (or one of us at least) then stream at the end out to the road. No drama.

Voltaire

29th March 2018, 12:59

:lol: That bloke must have got around a bit back in the day, I posted a pic of him on a Kennedy Lister in almost the same pose 9yrs ago :rolleyes:

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/95072-Name-the-cafe-racer?p=1988518#post1988518

Might be a lower power to weight ratio but i know which one I'd rather be on in tight country :yes:

Yes, Pom Bombs are ideal for small islands with lots of corners.:lol:

HenryDorsetCase

29th March 2018, 13:21

This is a Cafe Racer
http://caferacertv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/discovery-hd-theater-cafe-racer-caferacer-tv-vintage-motorcycles-ace-cafe-london-rockers-59club-norton-triumph-triton-honda-historic-phot-29.jpg

The rest are just homages to that era.
I would like a new Thruxton but can't be bothered spending all that on a weekend toy.
From memory 650's had a about 40 HP and about 150 KG's, probably less of a power to weight ratio :laugh:

is he nine feet tall or is that bike tiny?

AllanB

29th March 2018, 16:11

is he nine feet tall or is that bike tiny?

I suspect he's a sizable piece of meat, but the bike is also small compared to at lot now. It still annoys me that the new Bonnie looks like a fuller figured gal as the original looked very slim. I swear the new engine is so overbuilt the metal content could be cut by 25% and they would still last forever.

F5 Dave

29th March 2018, 16:47

Being light has to help. Only Meriden I've ridden was a 500. Was pretty cool in 50kph zone. Felt like it might of got a bit breathless beyond that. Would be cool to try something bigger than a Daytona thing.
But can't think an RZ350 wouldn't bake it and I love those.

Voltaire

29th March 2018, 16:59

I suspect he's a sizable piece of meat, but the bike is also small compared to at lot now. It still annoys me that the new Bonnie looks like a fuller figured gal as the original looked very slim. I swear the new engine is so overbuilt the metal content could be cut by 25% and they would still last forever.

That was before you could have your cake and eat it too.
1200cc of Triumph makes about 90 BHP at 200 kgs?

AllanB

29th March 2018, 17:13

That was before you could have your cake and eat it too.
1200cc of Triumph makes about 90 BHP at 200 kgs?

Specs say a T1200 is 224 kg DRY :blink: 79hp but look at that torque figure - that's nice.

http://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.nz/bikes/classics/bonneville/2018/bonneville-t120/variants/bonneville-t120

Thruxton R is 97 and 203 kg dry. And more torque.

Drop 20kg off one and shit it would fly.

F5 Dave

29th March 2018, 18:24

So what does torque mean? No really. An R6 has more Torque than a Harley.
Your move.

GazzaH

29th March 2018, 18:30

You're all torque, you are.

Torque is what leaves you behind when the bike takes off like a bat out of hell.
I'll be gone when the morning comes.
When the night is over, like a bat out of hell, I'll be gone, gone, gone.

Unless I let go.

F5 Dave

29th March 2018, 19:54

I'm gonna hit the highway like a battering ram
On a silver-black mountain bike

Classic Hitcher.

AllanB

29th March 2018, 20:06

So what does torque mean? No really. An R6 has more Torque than a Harley.
Your move.

On what spec sheet ? Google tells me a R6 has 42 ft-lbs and a Fat Boy 109.

One's a tractor ones a rev bitch.

F5 Dave

29th March 2018, 20:16

Measure the turning force at the rear wheel. Bikes have gears. Horsepower wins. Circa 100hp at the wheel. Don' let journalists try convince you there is some other energy measurement.

husaberg

29th March 2018, 21:17

Measure the turning force at the rear wheel. Bikes have gears. Horsepower wins. Circa 100hp at the wheel. Don' let journalists try convince you there is some other energy measurement.
No mater what the HP?Kw or foot pounds/Nm's are in the end it is air resistance that wins:whistle:

F5 Dave

30th March 2018, 07:32

Not in space.

Voltaire

30th March 2018, 07:35

You don't need a lot of power to have fun. Less than 40 HP.

F5 Dave

30th March 2018, 08:42

About what my dirt bike has, and certainly a lot more than any of my racebike ever had.

But the first time I took my super grunty TT500 on the motorway I realised how gutless it was out of its natural environment.

husaberg

30th March 2018, 15:50

Not in space.

Unless you are talking electric maybe , But in regards to combustion motor as there is no oxygen in space, You would therefor need thrust in the vacuum.
Actually space might be the best place for Harleys. Where their Potato sound would be less objectionable and their excessive weight less noticeable

jellywrestler

30th March 2018, 16:35

husaberg

30th March 2018, 16:52

most are ridden by space cadets....

Explains the lack of waving....

HenryDorsetCase

30th March 2018, 17:53

Unless you are talking electric maybe , But in regards to combustion motor as there is no oxygen in space, You would therefor need thrust in the vacuum.
Actually space might be the best place for Harleys. Where their Potato sound would be less objectionable and their excessive weight less noticeablemass does not change even in the absence of gravity so less mass is better always. quicker to accelerate, easier to change direction, less fuel required.

Rocket engines use liquid oxygen (carried on board in a tank) as an oxidiser for fuel.

Scubbo

30th March 2018, 18:08

:scratch:https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1583557475.htm?rsqid=d2cc10340129425f89b2faaee770d 170

AllanB

30th March 2018, 18:09

Unless you are talking electric maybe , But in regards to combustion motor as there is no oxygen in space, You would therefor need thrust in the vacuum.
Actually space might be the best place for Harleys. Where their Potato sound would be less objectionable and their excessive weight less noticeable

Harleys would re-entry faster that a wayward satellite due to their mass - even on re-entry I reckon there would be a Motor Company logo left on the molten slag heap that hits Mother Earth.

Space travel - ride the Solar Waves I say. Yeah Baby.

AllanB

30th March 2018, 18:12

:scratch:https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1583557475.htm?rsqid=d2cc10340129425f89b2faaee770d 170

Farrrrrrrrkkkkk is that a ex Liberace Kawasaki?

F5 Dave

30th March 2018, 19:19

:scratch:https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1583557475.htm?rsqid=d2cc10340129425f89b2faaee770d 170

That's cool! !!

Wait, how much?@@!

AllanB

30th March 2018, 19:28

That's cool! !!

Wait, how much?@@!

It's friggen Purple and Green - two colours that should only appear together on a flower or finger nails.

WALRUS

31st March 2018, 02:01

:scratch:https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1583557475.htm?rsqid=d2cc10340129425f89b2faaee770d 170

That's brilliant! Only thing it's missing is a Muzzy exhaust

jasonu

31st March 2018, 02:25

That's brilliant! Only thing it's missing is a Muzzy exhaust

You'll have to find an old one, Muzzys went out of business a few years ago.

F5 Dave

31st March 2018, 07:03

It's friggen Purple and Green - two colours that should only appear together on a flower or finger nails.
Meh, I had a Pink, White and Blue shellsuit YZF750SP so maybe my sense of taste was dulled by that. Superbikes of the 90s were supposed to be garish.

Drew

31st March 2018, 08:03

:scratch:https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1583557475.htm?rsqid=d2cc10340129425f89b2faaee770d 170
No idea what its worth, but I fucken want it.

AllanB

31st March 2018, 09:19

Meh, I had a Pink, White and Blue shellsuit YZF750SP so maybe my sense of taste was dulled by that. Superbikes of the 90s were supposed to be garish.

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the period I lost interest in them - no way I could buy some of the colour schemes that were appearing in the shops. the Fireblade had bits of pink in it too! Apparently the 'Tiger' colour scheme version has become desirable.

husaberg

31st March 2018, 09:41

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the period I lost interest in them - no way I could buy some of the colour schemes that were appearing in the shops. the Fireblade had bits of pink in it too! Apparently the 'Tiger' colour scheme version has become desirable.
The 90s were all about shell suits.
http://www.belfastvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/shellsuits.jpg (https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwit5JvMgZXaAhXHvLwKHWOUABUQjRx6BAgAEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.belfastvibe.com%2Fbig-stories%2Fcringeworthy-fashion-trends%2F&psig=AOvVaw2JpIF4gk3Oyii3UviiuCN8&ust=1522532432293195)http://picture-cdn.wheretoget.it/gd1efz-l-610x610-jacket-pullover-colorful-addias-windbreaker-addidas-vintage-90s+jacket-90s+style-80s+style-retro-retro+jacket-adidas+windbreaker-90s-80s-90s+windbreaker-blue+pink+white-shell+suit.jpg (https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjQpaXtgZXaAhXCTLwKHRokDgkQjRx6BAgAEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwheretoget.it%2Flook%2F1259772&psig=AOvVaw2JpIF4gk3Oyii3UviiuCN8&ust=1522532432293195)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/7d/65/4d7d65dce826281d14061b98086b37c5.jpg (https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjb88KZgpXaAhWLTrwKHdfsA70QjRx6BAgAEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F557953 841309747286%2F&psig=AOvVaw1R2XykL_RyLpCWBzaLFAla&ust=1522532624777712)

AllanB

31st March 2018, 09:55

I potentially have a 90's Honda shell jacket, never worn, tucked away in a box somewhere.

Crasherfromwayback

31st March 2018, 11:13

:scratch:https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1583557475.htm?rsqid=d2cc10340129425f89b2faaee770d 170

An absolutely mint one might fetch that, but that one is far from mint. Think what it'd be worth if it was an OWO1 or an RC30. Whilst a ZX7RR will never be worth what the other two are, they're cool as shit just the same. I got my Z1RTC cause they guy traded it on one of those, albeit an earlier version. Bet he's kicking himself now.

AllanB

31st March 2018, 12:56

Z1RTC - now there is a desirable Kawasaki. I love the story behind them too - sales dropping on the Z1 in the USA as the competitors are bringing out newer, better handling models. So whats the USA do - turbo them and make the thing even more crazy!

jellywrestler

31st March 2018, 13:27

Z1RTC - now there is a desirable Kawasaki.

real mean don't use the word desirable.

jasonu

31st March 2018, 15:38

No idea what its worth, but I fucken want it.

Looking at some of the other crap on Tardme, is the zzr really over priced?

jellywrestler

31st March 2018, 16:11

Looking at some of the other crap on Tardme, is the zzr really over priced?

it's a zxr, either the guys got no clues or it's on there on instructions from his kitchen bitch, overpriced so it won't sell, or he's overinvested and too scared to tell her it's worth a lot less.

Laava

31st March 2018, 16:25

it's a zxr, either the guys got no clues or it's on there on instructions from his kitchen bitch, overpriced so it won't sell, or he's overinvested and too scared to tell her it's worth a lot less.

It's Graeme Crosby...so, not clueless I would have thought?

sidecar bob

31st March 2018, 17:24

It's Graeme Crosby...so, not clueless I would have thought?
Would you feel differently if it was simply Mr Dobalina?

AllanB

31st March 2018, 17:41

real mean don't use the word desirable.

She was desirable ............

jellywrestler

31st March 2018, 18:45

She was desirable ............

can you remember where you buried here afterwards?

babysteps

31st March 2018, 19:13

Mr Dobalina?

Mr Bob Dobalina?

sidecar bob

31st March 2018, 19:15

Mr Bob Dobalina?

Why yes.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qFqov8a9iL4

babysteps

31st March 2018, 20:00

Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge.

Laava

31st March 2018, 20:33

Would you feel differently if it was simply Mr Dobalina?

If it was someone who I didn't know had been involved in the motorcycle industry and sport for years then yes I would be more sceptical. Don't get me wrong, I have no idea what the bike is worth and 18k seems OTT but I would have thought Cros would have at least some idea of its value...

Crasherfromwayback

31st March 2018, 20:43

If it was someone who I didn't know had been involved in the motorcycle industry and sport for years then yes I would be more sceptical. Don't get me wrong, I have no idea what the bike is worth and 18k seems OTT but I would have thought Cros would have at least some idea of its value...

Nah. He speculates some sorry cunt is gonna spend way more than a bike is worth because he got it from *Graeme Crosby*!

Laava

31st March 2018, 20:59

Nah. He speculates some sorry cunt is gonna spend way more than a bike is worth because he got it from *Graeme Crosby*!

Lol, well I don't know him at all but I guess that is a possibility too!

F5 Dave

1st April 2018, 06:58

Ahahaha, a poked old xr of no real importance and you want?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1587125237.htm?rsqid=e2bdd0fb792d414aa1d2fd0e36320 591

It's a hack around trailbike, the kind hunters or fishers use to get places and leave somewhere.

F5 Dave

1st April 2018, 07:07

Um. . . This just looks like some scrap that' been left outside to rot

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1578763397.htm?rsqid=dd5669ac764d4fdd98d283fe85181 ae5

I can' imagine a wrecker bothering to put it on his trailer for free.

F5 Dave

1st April 2018, 07:11

Well at least he is covering up the manky tart nowadays.

But why is this worth 5k?
It' had the big bucks thrown at it. . . Like tyres and chain, and other service items . .

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1579090593.htm?rsqid=dd5669ac764d4fdd98d283fe85181 ae5

F5 Dave

1st April 2018, 07:31

Oooh, this looks like it will be fun to ride.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1584014499.htm?rsqid=4e07267c098b411daff382c7d6830 e77

And nice use of the word apparently
I never said that it was Lams with that pipe

jellywrestler

1st April 2018, 07:33

F5 Dave

1st April 2018, 07:37

Voltaire

1st April 2018, 07:55

Theres just so much here spyda.and I've got an extra hour.

Sheesh. This one has been on here so long he's probably all grown up and finished school.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1583393309.htm?rsqid=18f0752947824da6b39c58b50fa02 de9

She is also a little bit famous, featuring in the Nick Von K Motorcycle Club campaign, as can be seen in the photos, and the World Famous in NZ KB Optimistic Sellers.

fixed it for him.

pritch

1st April 2018, 09:37

Nah. He speculates some sorry cunt is gonna spend way more than a bike is worth because he got it from *Graeme Crosby*!

Exactly. All of his bikes are priced thousands higher than similar elsewhere. OK, some people may think they are worth that, and they must do if he's selling them.

AllanB

1st April 2018, 09:56

HenryDorsetCase

1st April 2018, 10:15

fixed it for him.

I hate a lot of things.

One of the things I hate is people anthropomorphising motorcycles - or anything - referring to them as "she". Its a thing. It has no gender.

It is barely acceptable for a capital ship and only by dint of long historical use, but never for anything displacing less than (say) 8000 long tons.*

*so, maybe for harleys?

roogazza

1st April 2018, 10:20

Exactly. All of his bikes are priced thousands higher than similar elsewhere. OK, some people may think they are worth that, and they must do if he's selling them.

Nice fella but just like us an old fella now.
Selling old stuff to people who can afford it,but probably can't ride much anymore .
Not us pritch.we're still doing it,if only short distances once a week !! lol :rolleyes:

F5 Dave

1st April 2018, 11:04

Concepts cool. Rattle can paint job is poor.
Conept is; those pipes will be hideous in less than a tank of gas worth, or maybe until you burn your leg. Dangerous tyres, silly riding position. Quality of work aside:tugger:

husaberg

1st April 2018, 11:21

Concepts cool. Rattle can paint job is poor.

One of the better uses for a Suzuki GSX250/400 tanks

jasonu

1st April 2018, 12:03

AllanB

1st April 2018, 12:53

Conept is; those pipes will be hideous in less than a tank of gas worth, or maybe until you burn your leg. Dangerous tyres, silly riding position. Quality of work aside:tugger:

I think you need to start a thread called something like 'F5 Dave's cool customs' and post up pictures of modified bikes you like. I'm getting concerned that you are morphing into one of those people who truly believe that 100% factory is the only way.

I too and not a fan of pipe wrap. On a race engine - fine, it's there for a reason, on a road bike it will just rot your pipes.

Firestones (often called Fuckstones on the net) are something I just ignore now, changing tyres is easy.

Hot leg - meh I ride a Ducati, it's nice on the right leg mid winter. Interesting here I removed the factory heat shield for the rear header because I did not like the way it covered the lovely pipe and made up my own smaller more discrete shields that exposed a lot more of the pipes. Then polished the F out of the stainless pipes, that have now turned a quite beautiful colour. Anyway, the smaller shields I've made don't increase the heat on the leg to any noticeable degree. I almost wonder if it's fractionally cooler due to improved air flow. Go figure, looks heaps better but would upset 'Mericans as the dumb fucks would probably touch the hot pipe!

AllanB

1st April 2018, 12:55

That guy looks like a right fucking turd.

Yeah but if you zoom in on the gal behind him there is a hint of side boob. ;)

jellywrestler

1st April 2018, 13:11

Yeah but if you zoom in on the gal behind him there is a hint of side boob. ;)

looks like a bobfoc to me, body off baywatch, face off crimewatch.

F5 Dave

1st April 2018, 17:41

I think you need to start a thread called something like 'F5 Dave's cool customs' and post up pictures of modified bikes you like. I'm getting concerned that you are morphing into one of those people who truly believe that 100% factory is the only way.

I too and not a fan of pipe wrap. On a race engine - fine, it's there for a reason, on a road bike it will just rot your pipes.

Firestones (often called Fuckstones on the net) are something I just ignore now, changing tyres is easy.

Hot leg - meh I ride a Ducati, it's nice on the right leg mid winter. Interesting here I removed the factory heat shield for the rear header because I did not like the way it covered the lovely pipe and made up my own smaller more discrete shields that exposed a lot more of the pipes. Then polished the F out of the stainless pipes, that have now turned a quite beautiful colour. Anyway, the smaller shields I've made don't increase the heat on the leg to any noticeable degree. I almost wonder if it's fractionally cooler due to improved air flow. Go figure, looks heaps better but would upset 'Mericans as the dumb fucks would probably touch the hot pipe!

Nah I appreciate a 100% rest but I'm unlikely to do one. I like
95%,looks like new
But non obvious upgrades.
I also lie specials and have built a couple. Let' see if I can post picture for your derision for humour sake.

Nah it's a drag on the tablet to post. . .
today I was dynoing my RG/RGV/RZ 496cc 2 stroke - a mongrel of several bikes. But when it's
Finished it should actually be a fast good handling road bike and reasonable to look at. Target 100hp, 140kg. Target 1 pretty much done. Haven't weighed it yet.

I can't see the point in shitters that will be crap to ride. Mine will be practical. . . Except for the premix and horrific fuel consumption.

AllanB

1st April 2018, 18:35

I can't see the point in shitters that will be crap to ride.

Agree 99%.

99 as I have a 1% desire for a real old school, hardtail panhead chopper.

YellowDog

1st April 2018, 20:00

looks like a bobfoc to me, body off baywatch, face off crimewatch.

It says 'Single Banger' - more like 'Gang Banger' :rolleyes:

Crasherfromwayback

1st April 2018, 21:02

Might actually have the wrong seat on this one Bro...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1588657014.htm?rsqid=9a2416209b8749dbbc1b9b9d33363 d4b

YellowDog

1st April 2018, 21:12

Might actually have the wrong seat on this one Bro...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1588657014.htm?rsqid=9a2416209b8749dbbc1b9b9d33363 d4b

I think you're right. It's so far over the mudguard, it will probably get chain fling on the under side. Hopefully it is more than just foam.

speedpro

1st April 2018, 21:21

jasonu

2nd April 2018, 04:15

Depends how big your arse is

I've seen worse on Bucket Racers...

F5 Dave

2nd April 2018, 08:27

I like the headlight set up for possum hunting.
And why oh sweet baby Jeezus are the bars on that queer-as angle?

jellywrestler

2nd April 2018, 09:06

And why oh sweet baby Jeezus are the bars on that queer-as angle?

bars are adjustable, and the owner can choose where to put them, your OCD getting to ya this long weekend?

HenryDorsetCase

2nd April 2018, 09:20

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=1586177651&cc=602&pid=749477996&hbc=&member_hash=&ct=image&tm=email&et=602&mt=9c1d36cc-4229-4a71-bc36-5a25a9bf762f

I reckon this is good buying and if I hadnt bought that earlier 750 might have a tilt at it.

HenryDorsetCase

2nd April 2018, 09:22

Agree 99%.

99 as I have a 1% desire for a real old school, hardtail panhead chopper.

LOL I have a screensaver on my work computer of a similar bike. Its the bike I used to draw in maths class in the back of my exercise book with all the wee squares in it.

F5 Dave

2nd April 2018, 10:21

bars are adjustable, and the owner can choose where to put them, your OCD getting to ya this long weekend?

Yeah but can you imagine riding a bike where your thumbs are angled down? Over bumps?
Why did he adjust them like that? Didn' he notice the first time he got on?.

AllanB

2nd April 2018, 19:20

Yeah but can you imagine riding a bike where your thumbs are angled down? Over bumps?
Why did he adjust them like that? Didn' he notice the first time he got on?.

Ironically it may work OK when standing on the pegs? Ironic as it currently features a couch of a seat, so why stand.

F5 Dave

2nd April 2018, 20:09

I spend a fair while on dirtbikes. I can't think of anything worse.

Crasherfromwayback

4th April 2018, 14:48

No thanks.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1591000804.htm?rsqid=79bc789b72824e1c8021ebe72648f 03f

HenryDorsetCase

4th April 2018, 15:19

No thanks.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1591000804.htm?rsqid=79bc789b72824e1c8021ebe72648f 03f

not for that money, but its a nice old girl. You used to see GPz550's with that styling (so 81-83) ALL the time but I havent seen one for sale for years.

Crasherfromwayback

4th April 2018, 15:22

not for that money, but its a nice old girl. .

Not when you consider I sold my 2002 GS1200SS with only 26k on it for $3500.00.

AllanB

4th April 2018, 18:53

No thanks.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1591000804.htm?rsqid=79bc789b72824e1c8021ebe72648f 03f

Should have a Muzzy or Kerker on that girl.

T.W.R

5th April 2018, 11:19

Must be a fresh batch of P making the rounds in ChCh :lol:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1592249798.htm?rsqid=b5266037a92f41df9382f079d147b 818

Crasherfromwayback

5th April 2018, 12:57

Must be a fresh batch of P making the rounds in ChCh :lol:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1592249798.htm?rsqid=b5266037a92f41df9382f079d147b 818

But it's got electrical tape on the headlight!

F5 Dave

5th April 2018, 13:29

Does that hold in the electricity?

Crasherfromwayback

5th April 2018, 13:33

Does that hold in the electricity?

Like this! Nice exhaust too.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1592147850.htm?rsqid=a51eb530506d4f3396e3c8ae457a3 a4b

Ummmmmm

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1591399746.htm?rsqid=a51eb530506d4f3396e3c8ae457a3 a4b

T.W.R

5th April 2018, 13:36

But it's got electrical tape on the headlight!

Does that hold in the electricity?

Have a good look at the battery :rolleyes:

F5 Dave

5th April 2018, 13:40

What would be cool is an algorithm to datamine Tardme. By model number with age and kms

Mean price advertised.
Mean price sold for.

Then as an enhanced feature the AI could detect pipe wrap, brown seat covers, the words bobber, squatter, crapper, cafe, brat etc then the gloss level of the paint etc. Indicated bodggery and grammatical turds.
Add that to the comparison and predict a sale price or typical time till advert not continued.

Might clean out some of the deadwood.

F5 Dave

5th April 2018, 13:43

Like this! Nice exhaust too.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1592147850.htm?rsqid=a51eb530506d4f3396e3c8ae457a3 a4b

Ummmmmm

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1591399746.htm?rsqid=a51eb530506d4f3396e3c8ae457a3 a4b

Love the tank Muriel. Would impress any 8yr old.

jasonu

5th April 2018, 14:04

Then as an enhanced feature the AI could detect pipe wrap, brown seat covers, the words bobber, squatter, crapper, cafe, brat etc then the gloss level of the paint etc. Indicated bodggery and grammatical turds.
.

But I thought that was your job.

Here's another. $2k for a beat up shitter.
https://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/d/1998-honda-cr125r-2-stroke/6552113157.html

F5 Dave

5th April 2018, 20:57

Nice pipe. I need it gone today. As I'm seeing spiders and need another fix quick

T.W.R

5th April 2018, 21:01

Here's another. $2k for a beat up shitter.

:crazy: hose clamp on the brake master cylinder is epic :lol:

AllanB

5th April 2018, 23:21

Like this! Nice exhaust too.

Ummmmmm

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1591399746.htm?rsqid=a51eb530506d4f3396e3c8ae457a3 a4b

What The Actual Fuck ?

I may put a Harley badge on my Ducati - they tried to buy Ducati so it must be valid.

T.W.R

5th April 2018, 23:42

What The Actual Fuck ?

I may put a Harley badge on my Ducati - they tried to buy Ducati so it must be valid.

Could be worse

http://www.indianchiefmotorcycles.com/IMAGES/Indian%20Ducati%20Type%201%20lower%20res.jpg

Mike.Gayner

6th April 2018, 16:46

LOL no one's going to pay top dollar for your 10 year old, crashed-to-fuck bike.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1593384405&rsqid=713859bf500b49388167b728896f7f5f

F5 Dave

6th April 2018, 17:18

Only $200 to spray the tank.
Yeah. Not sure which way to go with that, but I think for mates rates you might get a rattlecan job with no preparation at all (yep, stand back, dont bother taking it off the bike) plus a left hook for being so cheeky.

husaberg

6th April 2018, 18:47

LOL no one's going to pay top dollar for your 10 year old, crashed-to-fuck bike.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1593384405&rsqid=713859bf500b49388167b728896f7f5f
What shit photos FFS

Crasherfromwayback

6th April 2018, 22:09

pritch

7th April 2018, 10:20

We're struggling to find a (decent) painter that'll do a tank for less than a grand.

I used to get the work cars repaired and after a while my guess at what the quote would be was usually pretty close . The minimum if they had to open a tin of paint was $300 - and that was five years ago.
So $200 is a definite rattle can job.

AllanB

7th April 2018, 10:33

It looks like shit with the tank still red.

Sure he gets comments ....... presumably not positive.

AllanB

7th April 2018, 10:37

I'd assume the first edition is the most collectible, however this looks very tidy and probably will fetch good money - it has not hit reserve yet at $14k

I remember when you struggled to give them away!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1581935011.htm?rsqid=6d3c832a9c1e4a7f9fc4b098c3157 d08

AllanB

7th April 2018, 10:52

Really nice MV but it goes to show these 'Specials' are not always good investments by any means. Paid $75k - done F-all kms and will take $25k. Puts the investment purchase in line with a Orange County Chopper.

Comments are interesting.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1584984379.htm?rsqid=6d3c832a9c1e4a7f9fc4b098c3157 d08

Talking of losses - I occasionally wander through the local Masareti dealership. Dreaming of the big Lotto win.

You can pick up a couple year old Masareti with bugger all kms for a fraction of the new car price.

AllanB

7th April 2018, 10:55

AllanB

7th April 2018, 11:05

In the early 80's I almost purchased a green one of these with the loudest 4-1, flat bars and rear-sets. It looked the business and went like hell. Kind of regret not buying it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1581121301.htm?rsqid=6d3c832a9c1e4a7f9fc4b098c3157 d08

AllanB

7th April 2018, 11:13

Fuck me are they really $21 grand now? https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1593300087.htm?rsqid=6d3c832a9c1e4a7f9fc4b098c3157 d08

I have always, and continue to hate with a passion the curved cut-outs on the front disks. I'd have to change them out.

Crasherfromwayback

7th April 2018, 11:15

AllanB

7th April 2018, 11:17

What-da-ya-reckon about this box of goodies?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1592137875.htm?rsqid=5df5aaa87dde4c88990c2a7b84242 450

sidecar bob

7th April 2018, 12:01

We're struggling to find a (decent) painter that'll do a tank for less than a grand.

Wow, really. I'd better start taking better care of the tradesman painter that paints multiple bikes for me in exchange for some basic repairs & maintenance on his family's vehicles.

Crasherfromwayback

7th April 2018, 12:11

Wow, really. I'd better start taking better care of the tradesman painter that paints multiple bikes for me in exchange for some basic repairs & maintenance on his family's vehicles.

Is that the guy that painted this gem?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1594362328.htm?rsqid=9ceb6b5235304ae189d5abcb67f90 f6f

jellywrestler

7th April 2018, 12:28

pritch

7th April 2018, 12:48

Is that the guy that painted this gem?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1594362328.htm?rsqid=9ceb6b5235304ae189d5abcb67f90 f6f

"A beauty" he says, thereby proving the old adage about it being in the eye of the beholder.

Fuck me are they really $21 grand now? https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1593300087.htm?rsqid=6d3c832a9c1e4a7f9fc4b098c3157 d08

Apparently the 1200s are. The 900s should be less, $15,000?

Laava

7th April 2018, 14:17

What-da-ya-reckon about this box of goodies?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1592137875.htm?rsqid=5df5aaa87dde4c88990c2a7b84242 450

Apparently it's one of the last of the big thumpers! I guess the seller doesn't get out much?

F5 Dave

7th April 2018, 15:36

Ignoring the tyres it's pretty cool. Thinking the asking price is around the original purchase price (I paid $4k for a Kawa 750 new in 1982).

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1592756063.htm?rsqid=6d3c832a9c1e4a7f9fc4b098c3157 d08
Letting go a part of his family:violin:

. . . Re vinned as reg lapsed in storage.

Wouldn't like to have him with enduring power of attorney as an elderly parent.

Typical. Never ridden after built.

F5 Dave

7th April 2018, 15:43

Apparently it's one of the last of the big thumpers! I guess the seller doesn't get out much?

Maybe spends his time fishing instead. It's got twin Carps:blink:

F5 Dave

7th April 2018, 15:48

AllanB

7th April 2018, 15:53

This is the model to put away I reckon
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1588470119.htm?rsqid=51ca66e38057497c8fca191be2ebe f1d

Pity about that hoady pipe, and the paint looks funny. . .Oh it seems to be a us market one.

What's a re-store? bawahhahaha

Ah the model with the vacuum cleaner hose intakes.

150,000 kms on the girl. That's a lot of thrashing :bleh:

F5 Dave

7th April 2018, 15:57

And this one isn't the one to put away.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1589337024.htm?rsqid=57cfcd92295a47ab96279d9c8b8f9 529

When something is so rare no one has heard of it it's value is priceless. As in no price. No one will buy it except for it' intended purpose. Which would appear to be for junior to ride around the back yard smiling until it runs out of gas. . . . No chance of finding parts you say? I'll just buy him a Yamaha thanks.

F5 Dave

7th April 2018, 16:01

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
look at this sad thing
does it come with arseless chaps?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1589058685.htm?rsqid=57cfcd92295a47ab96279d9c8b8f9 529

How much?!?! Boy you really would have to like being Rogered.

T.W.R

7th April 2018, 16:15

Ah the model with the vacuum cleaner hose intakes.

150,000 kms on the girl. That's a lot of thrashing :bleh:

:facepalm: don't know much about them do you :lol:

obviously didn't read the Q&A or look at the images either :pinch:

Shame it's a jap import one otherwise it'd be worthwhile looking at but not at $8k

Berries

7th April 2018, 16:57

:facepalm: don't know much about them do you :lol:
Glad it was posted though as it made me find this which to my eyes is beautiful - https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1583557475.htm?rsqid=27cc105595b84f69a537d7faac69f 2c6

Perhaps a birthday selfie for later in the year? Sellers name seems familiar but.

T.W.R

7th April 2018, 17:08

Glad it was posted though as it made me find this which to my eyes is beautiful -
Perhaps a birthday selfie for later in the year? Sellers name seems familiar but.

That was digested a page or so back.... funny reading what some said regarding the N1....Mikkel's old one was for sale down your way a couple of month's back but didn't sell. There's another N1 not too far away from where I am as well. They're peaky sods though everythings packed up in the top end ;)

Thanks to crasher I know where there's a low km NZ new H1 after doing a pick for him of one of his purchases and my old one is still lurking around the traps and makes the odd appearance at Ruapuna Shonshi got a taste of what it could do once when he thought he taken off on his busa during a KB ride only to find me filling his mirrors...poor lad got a hell of a shock. Sugilite wanted to take it home to race too after having a strop on it

jasonu

7th April 2018, 18:16

This is the model to put away I reckon
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1588470119.htm?rsqid=51ca66e38057497c8fca191be2ebe f1d

Pity about that hoady pipe, and the paint looks funny. . .Oh it seems to be a us market one.

Its missing a air tube and a tweet.
Plees send your pass word to the nigeria royal family.

jasonu

7th April 2018, 18:17

AllanB

7th April 2018, 19:31

:facepalm: don't know much about them do you :lol:

It's another non-important sport bike. Over priced and nothing special. In that era every friggen 9 months a new jap sport bike would appear better than the rest. Yawn.

Seriously, it's not a game changer like a edition one GSXR750.

And it still has vacuum cleaner hoses. Always did - but when Kawasaki came out with them back in the day I remember thinking they were 'cool' - time has not been kind on the tubes ......

T.W.R

7th April 2018, 19:42

It's another non-important sport bike. Over priced and nothing special. In that era every friggen 9 months a new jap sport bike would appear better than the rest. Yawn.

Seriously, it's not a game changer like a edition one GSXR750.

The gixxer was only a game changer because it was a new direction in so-called sports bikes at the time :msn-wink: everything else was basically a sports tourer
The ZXRs were the only things that dominated the dukes in WSBK back in the day and for years the ZXRs were the benchmark for front ends and remember Kawasaki sat back and watched what the others were doing before releasing the ZXRs

AllanB

7th April 2018, 20:08

You know what should be collectible today - the original 1980 R80GS. Technically it invented the 'adventure touring bike' category.

F5 Dave

7th April 2018, 20:43

Wasn't that the Triumph Adventurer of early 70s era? Well they first coined the name:innocent:

T.W.R

7th April 2018, 21:02

You know what should be collectible today - the original 1980 R80GS. Technically it invented the 'adventure touring bike' category.

What would be collectible if it's survived all these years is the bike the spawned the GS beemers :yes: The bike Bernd Walrof built, that's were BMW got the idea as he was one of their mechanics

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/95513-The-BMW-GS-boxer-twin-thread?p=1130661930#post1130661930

Crasherfromwayback

7th April 2018, 21:18

What would be collectible if it's survived all these years is the bike the spawned the GS beemers :yes: The bike Bernd Walrof built, that's were BMW got the idea as he was one of their mechanics

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/95513-The-BMW-GS-boxer-twin-thread?p=1130661930#post1130661930

Very G.A.Y.

AllanB

7th April 2018, 21:18

T.W.R

7th April 2018, 22:12

Very G.A.Y.

Bit Harsh Pete considering when it was built and considering nowadays the beemer adventure set are boutique fashionista that buy their bikes rather build them

That is cool.

160 odd kgs it'd be more enjoyable & capable ride off road than the current or any off the factory built GSs :msn-wink:

Crasherfromwayback

7th April 2018, 22:59

Bit Harsh Pete considering when it was built and considering nowadays the beemer adventure set are boutique fashionista that buy their bikes rather build them

:

Worst engine design in the history of motorcycling! Well, nearly...

jasonu

8th April 2018, 06:53

https://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/d/mini-bike/6554658534.html

Could have at least dragged it out of the weeds.

F5 Dave

8th April 2018, 07:12

Worst engine design in the history of motorcycling! Well, nearly...
Yeah good point! Can't forget that knife and fork shitter with crankcase the size of a tractor. Totally unsuitable for a 2 wheeler.

Voltaire

8th April 2018, 07:41

Worst engine design in the history of motorcycling! Well, nearly...

😂 whatever.

AllanB

8th April 2018, 08:58

Worst engine design in the history of motorcycling! Well, nearly...

Ouch. I'm afraid to ask what your worst is ......

jellywrestler

8th April 2018, 09:13

Worst engine design in the history of motorcycling! Well, nearly...

so how come they won so many world sidecar championships then?

jasonu

8th April 2018, 10:05

Ouch. I'm afraid to ask what your worst is ......

Hardley Shitterson of course.

sidecar bob

8th April 2018, 10:23

Worst engine design in the history of motorcycling! Well, nearly...

Natural balance factor, excellent cooling, great ground clearance, low centre of gravity, simple maintenance & overhaul of major components. What were the drawbacks again?

Voltaire

8th April 2018, 11:20

You know what should be collectible today - the original 1980 R80GS. Technically it invented the 'adventure touring bike' category.

They can't be as have not seen any being on Dave's Dreamer's and Tyre Kickers thread.

BMW invented the ADV bike about 1940 with the R75, Brits and Yanks had some old sidevalve things.....

Crasherfromwayback

8th April 2018, 11:35

�� whatever.

so how come they won so many world sidecar championships then?

How many flat track, drag racing and top speed titles have HD powered rigs one, and it's not like you're a fan of the brand eh?! :innocent:

Natural balance factor, excellent cooling, great ground clearance, low centre of gravity, simple maintenance & overhaul of major components. What were the drawbacks again?

Man you Boxer Boys are easy to wind up. Natural balance factor is all good till you blip the throttle and the thing tips over. Excellent cooling? Power makes heat, and there's fuck all cooling needed. Great ground clearance you say? If you lift the motor up in the frame maybe. Then your low centre of gravity argument takes a hit too. Did I mention they sound like wet farts and are as ugly as all fuck? Where as you tilt the cyls up some a-la Guzzi, and they look and sound great. :scooter:

Dadpole

8th April 2018, 11:48

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Crasherfromwayback again."

:rofl:

jellywrestler

8th April 2018, 12:10

How many flat track, drag racing and top speed titles have HD powered rigs one, and it's not like you're a fan of the brand eh?! :innocent:

hey, i never mentioned harleys here.... i've got the first of the R80GS's and it's a great dirt bike, went up the akatarawas with a bunch of trail bikes once, no-one could get up one bit so we all had to ride up with five or so on each side helping. They all looked at the beemer thinking it would be shit going up, with all the engine bars, saddle bag frmes to grab and assist it was the easiest of all. also great when it does go over, yip it's heavier but when you get it on it's wheels an a cylinder it's well over halfway upright and so much easier on a bad back to pick up.

Voltaire

8th April 2018, 12:27

I quite like this Harley.
http://www.classicmotorcycleconsignments.com/motorcycles/Harley-Davidson/images/1942-Harley-Davidson-XA/1942%20HD%20XA-1.jpg
http://www.classicmotorcycleconsignments.com/motorcycles/1942-harley-davidson-xa-2

pritch

8th April 2018, 12:36

Dadpole

8th April 2018, 13:10

When the first GS came out I thought it was the stupidest concept in history. I believed it would an embarrassing stain on BMW in no time.
My judgement is legendary. I am the idiot who turned down a $500 RE5 and sold a minter GT750 for the price of a new rear tyre...:crazy:

Voltaire

8th April 2018, 15:19

When the first GS came out I thought it would make the ideal bike for Australia. The Australians didn't seem to agree, they all buy sport bikes. Last time I was in Sydney I saw a big GS parked and thought that may have been evidence of an intelligent Australian but no. It was a Euro tourist on a hire bike.

I toured as far as Eastern Turkey in the late 80's on a 1971 R75/5. For a few days we traveled the back and gravel roads with a couple on what would have been a brand new GS. He was surprised to see such a bike as he never takes his R100CS out of what was then Western Europe.

Can't say I saw the point of the G/S until I bought an R80 ST ( same but with different forks,dash/headlight and 19" front wheel) 4 years ago.
They are a lot of fun to ride on back roads and gravel. Down side is the tank is only 19 litres and gearing is a bit low, probably why the Aussies didn't go for them.

Note G/S is the early mono one, GS is the later paralever one.

husaberg

8th April 2018, 17:47

Natural balance factor, excellent cooling, great ground clearance, low centre of gravity, simple maintenance & overhaul of major components. What were the drawbacks again?
it doesn't make a potaoe potatoe sound plus the Germans never had a race series where they constantly modified the rules to exclude other marques from competing equal footing like the AMA did.

Laava

8th April 2018, 17:51

Germans never had a race series where they constantly modified the rules to exclude other marques from competing equal footing like the AMA did.

It's called american sportsmanship. Plenty more examples of it, how about the world series?

Crasherfromwayback

8th April 2018, 17:54

plus the Germans never had a race series where they constantly modified the rules to exclude other marques from competing equal footing like the AMA did.

Hardly explains the world land speed record and too many drag race titles to count though eh! Haters gonna always hate! But the very same ones, I'm willing to bet, have never ridden an angry Harley powered anything.

husaberg

8th April 2018, 18:04

Hardly explains the world land speed record and too many drag race titles to count though eh! Haters gonna always hate! But the very same ones, I'm willing to bet, have never ridden an angry Harley powered anything.
To be fair they did win a three world championships as well Pete with a Italian designed and made Aermacchi 2 stroke. they also won many races with the four stroke Macchis as well
That gave them some international credibility.
PS bonneville records are not always world landspeed records the AMA doesn't always meet the criteria of the FIM.
BMW have had a few actual world landspeed records as well as IOM multiple wins
Never ridden a fast Harley well you would lose that bet I have ridden a decent Harley, it wouldn't turn unless it was ridden around a corner under a rising throttle much like an old Triumph.
It was fast for what it was. but no where near as good as a RG500 or anything.
That isn't to say I wouldn't much rather have a XLCR than a R90s.

While on records Vescos Yamaha one was set with stock Std engines.

Dadpole

8th April 2018, 18:05

Crasher. What have you started? If you hear a lot of 'wet farts' approaching - Run. Run like the wind. :corn:

Crasherfromwayback

8th April 2018, 18:33

Crasher. What have you started? If you hear a lot of 'wet farts' approaching - Run. Run like the wind. :corn:

Lol. Sunday entertainment whilst waiting for the racing no less!

Crasherfromwayback

8th April 2018, 18:37

Never ridden a fast Harley .

Well, if you ever see a 120R powered anything at an HD dealership near you, do yourself a favour and ride it. They're fucking cool fun. And before anyone could say I have an HD bent simply because I sold them for 20 years, I currently own 9 motorcycles. 4 Suzuki's and the rest Kawasaki's. But a thundering big twin (or good Sporty for that matter) is a shitload of fun. More so than any boxer I've ever ridden. And yes, I've worked in two BMW dealerships over the years too...

AllanB

8th April 2018, 18:47

Ohhh anti-boxer - I think that's a new one. I understand the anti-BMW rider thing of past years as, lets face it, pre 4 cylinder BMW's they used to be a snobby pack of buggers, but I've never heard or read of a anti-boxer bent.

husaberg

8th April 2018, 18:51

Well, if you ever see a 120R powered anything at an HD dealership near you, do yourself a favour and ride it. They're fucking cool fun. And before anyone could say I have an HD bent simply because I sold them for 20 years, I currently own 9 motorcycles. 4 Suzuki's and the rest Kawasaki's. But a thundering big twin (or good Sporty for that matter) is a shitload of fun. More so than any boxer I've ever ridden. And yes, I've worked in two BMW dealerships over the years too...

Well if the produced a Repilca VR1000 in decent numbers above 55 I would have a go or a Modern XLCR
But the others are not to my taste. they missed the boat when it came to the mass appeal styling.
https://www.odd-bike.com/2016/03/harley-davidson-vr1000-gods-own-voice.html

jasonu

8th April 2018, 18:52

plus the Germans never had a race series where they constantly modified the rules to exclude other marques from competing equal footing like the AMA did.

Like the Aussies did to the Nissan Godzilla, the Beemers and RX7's to protect the shitty holden and ford v8's

husaberg

8th April 2018, 18:54

Like the Aussies did to the Nissan Godzilla, the Beemers and RX7's to protect the shitty holden and ford v8's
Yip. just ask Jim or Murph or Phar Lap.:innocent:
The yanks did tend to do it in all the classes not just dirt track though like the AMA capacity rules favouring side valves and rules against OHC limiting number of gears etc etc

ellipsis

8th April 2018, 19:22

...I had a couple of hours of probably the most exhilarating, motorcycle time in my life recently...V4 Tuono, a year old...I was glad by the time I gave it back that I choose my Sporty to go and ride with the twats that have a licence to share our space...so boringly, unbreakable, forgiving, industrial, that just like a new roof and a freezer full of good kai, all is well...embarrasses a few Sprottys that can only pin it on the straights...I like that bit...don't handle, where's your nuts?...

Voltaire

8th April 2018, 20:19

That isn't to say I wouldn't much rather have a XLCR than a R90s.

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I'd have the R90s.... a 1974 one.

husaberg

8th April 2018, 20:24

I'd have the R90s.... a 1974 one.
You already have a R90, R90/6, R100RT.

Voltaire

8th April 2018, 21:07

You already have a R90, R90/6, R100RT.

Note to self: update profile more than twice a decade. List is somewhat longer.... thanks to GFC and career change.

Crasherfromwayback

8th April 2018, 21:18

Note to self: update profile more than twice a decade. List is somewhat longer.... thanks to GFC and career change.

No such thing as too many motorsickles!!!

Voltaire

8th April 2018, 21:33

No such thing as too many motorsickles!!!

maybe.....but if I could only have two would be Thruxon R and R9T Urban GS.

What two would you have?

Kickaha

8th April 2018, 21:46

What would be collectible if it's survived all these years is the bike the spawned the GS beemers :yes: The bike Bernd Walrof built, that's were BMW got the idea as he was one of their mechanics]

BMW already had their ISDE bikes and own cross country bikes well before he built that and that's what their GS was based on

Voltaire

8th April 2018, 22:03

BMW already had their ISDE bikes and own cross country bikes well before he built that and that's what their GS was based on

Only cool if Steve McQueen rode them ( when not escaping from Germany)
https://speedtracktales.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/picture_324.jpg

Crasherfromwayback

8th April 2018, 22:18

maybe.....but if I could only have two would be Thruxon R and R9T Urban GS.

What two would you have?

That's a fucking tough question. Prob my GSXR1100 and either a 500cc two stroke dirt bike, or a modern 450cc dirt bike.

T.W.R

8th April 2018, 22:32

BMW already had their ISDE bikes and own cross country bikes well before he built that and that's what their GS was based on

The early ISDT bikes weren't official BMW team bikes the only put an official team up in 1979 with a precursor R80GS which was built after Walrof's bike and have a look at the 1980 BMW team ISDT winning bike styling look familiar mmm?
http://www.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/bmw_enduro_isdt.jpg

Early ISDT privateer beemers if anything have more resemblance to an R80ST if anything and they were used as the basis of the original R80GS

http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/photos/specphotos/r80st.jpg

Crasherfromwayback

8th April 2018, 22:59

The early ISDT bikes weren't official BMW team bikes the only put an official team up in 1979 with a precursor R80GS which was built after Walrof's bike and have a look at the 1980 BMW team ISDT winning bike styling look familiar mmm?
http://www.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/bmw_enduro_isdt.jpg

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Fancy that? Engine and frame lifted up to increase ground clearance!

T.W.R

8th April 2018, 23:56

Fancy that? Engine and frame lifted up to increase ground clearance!

Almost a clone of Walrof's bike though :msn-wink:

Crasherfromwayback

9th April 2018, 00:15

Almost a clone of Walrof's bike though :msn-wink:

Here's an idea...

336053

T.W.R

9th April 2018, 00:29

Here's an idea...

336053

Channeling Ivan Miller huh? I remember going to an invitational meeting at Woodford Glen and seeing the old RMs get made to look totally stupid trying to chase Iki Watanabe on the pre release Full Floater version, Miller & the Colemans were doing the Suzuki roadshow; was a good day though spent it with the Malaysian GP team & John Woodley :msn-wink:

Crasherfromwayback

9th April 2018, 06:01

Channeling Ivan Miller huh? I remember going to an invitational meeting at Woodford Glen and seeing the old RMs get made to look totally stupid trying to chase Iki Watanabe on the pre release Full Floater version, Miller & the Colemans were doing the Suzuki roadshow; was a good day though spent it with the Malaysian GP team & John Woodley :msn-wink:

Nice one! Yep, I've had a 400C as a kid, but lusted after the N's and T's, and have since had three N's an a T. Great race bikes for VMX duty.

F5 Dave

9th April 2018, 07:27

Hardley Shitterson of course.
Well I was kinda going for that with my tractor gearbox quip, but Pete didn't bite on that.

Crasherfromwayback

9th April 2018, 07:50

Well I was kinda going for that with my tractor gearbox quip, but Pete didn't bite on that.

Hahahaha. Yep. Their gear boxes are def pretty Massey Ferguson like. But apart from the old four speed Sporty boxes, are pretty unbreakable at least. Long throw much?

sidecar bob

9th April 2018, 09:18

Fancy that? Engine and frame lifted up to increase ground clearance!

I classic raced a 90/6 in virtually standard trim, I beat the ones with raised engines, and by quite some margin, and a heap of other bikes & never touched my cylinders down.
You would be surprised how hard you have to go to do that. I'd say on the later mono r100rs it's virtually impossible without crashing first. I've done near 100,000km on one of those. As for the r1200gs, hitting the engine down is as likely as hitting the handlebar down.

Crasherfromwayback

9th April 2018, 09:19

I classic raced a 90/6 in virtually standard trim, I beat the ones with raised engines, and by quite some margin, and a heap of other bikes & never touched my cylinders down.

That doesn't say a lot sorry.

sidecar bob

9th April 2018, 09:24

That doesn't say a lot sorry.

Really, I'm not sure why you would say that, when I never saw you beating me or at any meetings. You have absolutely no idea how I ride.
Your comment doesn't exempt you from talking out your arse on this paticular occasion.:bleh:

Crasherfromwayback

9th April 2018, 09:29

Really, I'm not sure why you would say that, when I never saw you beating me or at any meetings. You have absolutely no idea how I ride.
Your comment doesn't exempt you from talking out your arse on this paticular occasion.:bleh:

You having your man time of the month? The fact you beat up on other boxers could well mean you're way better a rider than them, and the reason for not scaring may well mean you're way smoother than them. But we don't know, so your point was a bit moot either way. But carry one getting your panties hitched. But I have a feeling that the real reason we've never raced each other, is I was not that interested in parading around on old oil leakers. :bleh:

sidecar bob

9th April 2018, 09:34

You having your man time of the month? The fact you beat up on other boxers could well mean you're way better a rider than them, and the reason for not scaring may well mean you're way smoother than them. But we don't know, so your point was a bit moot either way. But carry one getting your panties hitched. But I have a feeling that the real reason we've never raced each other, is I was not that interested in parading around on old oil leakers. :bleh:

I beat bonnevilles, guzzi's manx's tridents, in fact the entire pre 76 bar two bikes that cost over ten times what mine did.
Not a " time of the month" just that your making incorrect assumptions that are wrong & im correcting them.
You need to be very smooth & on the gas & back brake together before the apex & they stand up tall just nice.

Crasherfromwayback

9th April 2018, 09:38

I beat bonnevilles, guzzi's manx's tridents, in fact the entire pre 76 bar two bikes that cost over ten times what mine did.

Well done. And without touching down the rocker box covers on a Boxer. :msn-wink:

Voltaire

9th April 2018, 09:47

Early ISDT privateer beemers if anything have more resemblance to an R80ST if anything and they were used as the basis of the original R80GS

http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/photos/specphotos/r80st.jpg

The R80ST was a response to the market wanting a road going version of the GS. The ST came out in 1982 and stopped in 1984.

The ST uses R65 forks and instruments along with a 19" front wheel,sidecovers are different, rear shock is slightly shorter.:sherlock:

Three bolt rear wheel/FD is unique to the GS/ST series and limits gearing options and expensive to replace.

Now where did I leave my anorak and notebook....:yawn:

T.W.R

9th April 2018, 10:10

The R80ST was a response to the market wanting a road going version of the GS. The ST came out in 1982 and stopped in 1984.

The ST uses R65 forks and instruments along with a 19" front wheel,sidecovers are different, rear shock is slightly shorter.:sherlock:

Three bolt rear wheel/FD is unique to the GS/ST series and limits gearing options and expensive to replace.

Now where did I leave my anorak and notebook....:yawn:

:clap: either way but it still has more resemblance to the early ISDT privateer bikes if you care to look and remove your anorak of arrogance
And there's a reason the ST had such a short life as it's referred to the cobbled together parts bin special and the response of wanting was that because the GS was stupidly over priced at the time :yes:

Voltaire

9th April 2018, 10:33

Stupidly overpriced.... I suppose thats why they only sold about 21 000 of them,

For actual BMW facts this is a good site.

http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/information.htm

T.W.R

9th April 2018, 11:06

Stupidly overpriced.... I suppose thats why they only sold about 21 000 of them,

For actual BMW facts this is a good site.

http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/information.htm

I could scan off original release tests from multiple magazines on the 1st GS if you want and a few all state the price at the time was too much for what they considered a design exercise or wondered if it was an unfinished project, they liked it though and one mag even states they'll sell well as an important new step in motorcycles.
Beemers aren't something that float my boat and there's only 3 models I'd consider to own, two of them being older classics and one recent model all being boxxer based.

HenryDorsetCase

9th April 2018, 11:23

Well if the produced a Repilca VR1000 in decent numbers above 55 I would have a go or a Modern XLCR
But the others are not to my taste. they missed the boat when it came to the mass appeal styling.
https://www.odd-bike.com/2016/03/harley-davidson-vr1000-gods-own-voice.html

eighteen grand buys you that XLCR on tardme if you want one.

Voltaire

9th April 2018, 11:35

I could scan off original release tests from multiple magazines on the 1st GS if you want and a few all state the price at the time was too much for what they considered a design exercise or wondered if it was an unfinished project, they liked it though and one mag even states they'll sell well as an important new step in motorcycles.
Beemers aren't something that float my boat and there's only 3 models I'd consider to own, two of them being older classics and one recent model all being boxxer based.

Probably the same magazines that voted Norton Commando motorcycle of the year 5 years in a row :rolleyes:

One other is a road test of a Commando Interstate Vs and R90/S,another rose tinted view.

One of the best ones is a drag between an R90/S and a Guzzi 750S and the R90/S pulled away despite the Vaguealia speedo saying 220 kph.

Thanks to the internet you can read actual owner reviews, I've tosses most of the old mags.

I have a passing interest in them, built up an R75/5 in my lounge in Sydney and did about 50 000 kms around Europe on it, its currently in

storage along with the side car I fitted for winter rallies in Germany.

I've got 5 of them in various guises, and I'm on my second Commando.

I'm going to leave it there and the thread can resume normal service of rose tinted tyre kicking.:lol:

husaberg

9th April 2018, 14:13

eighteen grand buys you that XLCR on tardme if you want one.
I did see that i was tempted till i remebered just how unrealible those AMF ones were, it seemed rather cheap.
I just tried to look for it and i can't find it even under expired listings.
Oh there it is it sold for $18500 still seems rather cheap. I can't imagine there would be more than 5 in NZ.
Some "Richard" in Welly got it.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1591153990.htm

Crasherfromwayback

9th April 2018, 14:59

Probably the same magazines that voted Norton Commando motorcycle of the year 5 years in a row :rolleyes:

:

Talking all things magazines. Have you seen the new Cycleworld? I was fucking well pissed when right after renewing my sub they announced it was going to become a quarterly deal. As it turns out, it's fucking great, and looks much better on ya table. Who would've thunk it.

HenryDorsetCase

9th April 2018, 16:36

Talking all things magazines. Have you seen the new Cycleworld? I was fucking well pissed when right after renewing my sub they announced it was going to become a quarterly deal. As it turns out, it's fucking great, and looks much better on ya table. Who would've thunk it.

interesting. I would have renewed if they'd fucking sent me a renewal. Then it got too hard. Plus the mag is tiny AND the print is so small. I like their web presence.

I only subscribe to Performance Bikes now. I still buy the occasional other (NZ or classic bike) mag

Crasherfromwayback

9th April 2018, 16:42

interesting. I would have renewed if they'd fucking sent me a renewal. Then it got too hard. Plus the mag is tiny AND the print is so small. I like their web presence.

I only subscribe to Performance Bikes now. I still buy the occasional other (NZ or classic bike) mag

I'll send you a pic or two of the new layout. Even though you're getting soft in your old age. :bleh:

husaberg

9th April 2018, 16:48

interesting. I would have renewed if they'd fucking sent me a renewal. Then it got too hard. Plus the mag is tiny AND the print is so small. I like their web presence.

I only subscribe to Performance Bikes now. I still buy the occasional other (NZ or classic bike) mag
Classic Racer is still great last one had a write up on Aaron Slight and Ginger Molloy plus a few words from Croz.
Next one has Doohan

jellywrestler

9th April 2018, 19:22

Classic Racer is still great last one had a write up on Aaron Slight and Ginger Molloy plus a few words from Croz.
Next one has Doohan

i took the steve roberts monocoques over to eastern creek a couple of weeks ago and alan cathcart tested them, expect an article in it in a few months as he has others in the pipeline including joe letts tr500.

husaberg

9th April 2018, 20:43

i took the steve roberts monocoques over to eastern creek a couple of weeks ago and alan cathcart tested them, expect an article in it in a few months as he has others in the pipeline including joe letts tr500.
Great stuff, Golly he (alan) must be getting on a bit now, i assume it was him who did the Slight story it never actually credited the author but it mentioned both Slight and foggy threathened to beat him up in the mid nineties. It also said slight was maybe doing up a RZ.
It never mentioned slight having the ex works bikes i know he was given a ZXR and a RC45 after the suzuka wins, maybe he sold them?

AllanB

9th April 2018, 20:48

Talking all things magazines. Have you seen the new Cycleworld? I was fucking well pissed when right after renewing my sub they announced it was going to become a quarterly deal. As it turns out, it's fucking great, and looks much better on ya table. Who would've thunk it.

Hmm that explains the edition 1 one on mine when it turned up recently. Where does it say it's quarterly? If so that pisses me off as there was not talk of that in the sub renewal.

I do like the new format though. :banana:

jellywrestler

9th April 2018, 21:00

Great stuff, Golly he (alan) must be getting on a bit now, i assume it was him who did the Slight story it never actually credited the author but it mentioned both Slight and foggy threathened to beat him up in the mid nineties. It also said slight was maybe doing up a RZ.
It never mentioned slight having the ex works bikes i know he was given a ZXR and a RC45 after the suzuka wins, maybe he sold them?

one of them was only a replica 400 i thought?

husaberg

9th April 2018, 21:13

one of them was only a replica 400 i thought?
yeah i think your right, but pretty sure he got a RC45 i think he even did a demo on it here.
Doohan got three NSR's
There was a story a while back about someone getting shafted and dicked arround for a bike they were promised i cant remember who it was? Rossi with a NSR i think? pretty sure it was a fair bit in why he soured on Honda.
Bazza had it in his contract that he kept all of his bikes..

AllanB

9th April 2018, 21:17

I remember that XLCUNT Harley looking way cooler back in the day. Mind you I would have been only 12 in 1977 so anything in the motorcycle magazines I did two after school jobs to afford looking bloody great.

Crasherfromwayback

9th April 2018, 21:22

one of them was only a replica 400 i thought?

Think that was the ZXR mate.

Kickaha

9th April 2018, 21:30

The early ISDT bikes weren't official BMW team bikes the only put an official team up in 1979]

BMW had team bikes in ISDT since the thirties and in later years through the 60-70s were often involved in with with either their own team or privateer support

To say the Bernd's bike is solely responsible for the introduction of the R80GS is a bit of a stretch

Kickaha

9th April 2018, 21:39

too many drag race titles to count though .

How many of those were full of Harley bits and not just a sticker on the tank?

HenryDorsetCase

9th April 2018, 22:02

How many of those were full of Harley bits and not just a sticker on the tank?

about as many GS1000's and Kawasaki's probably.

Crasherfromwayback

10th April 2018, 00:01

How many of those were full of Harley bits and not just a sticker on the tank?

about as many GS1000's and Kawasaki's probably.

Maybe they were Boxers in disguise! Oh hang on...

T.W.R

10th April 2018, 14:49

BMW had team bikes in ISDT since the thirties and in later years through the 60-70s were often involved in with with either their own team or privateer support

To say the Bernd's bike is solely responsible for the introduction of the R80GS is a bit of a stretch

Not properly prepared factory bikes by any means; Herbert Schek was basically modifying stock bikes and when he requested a proper factory bike be produced to be competitive the request was declined. His mods & Walrof's bike were the template for the GS's. BMW have Schek to thank for the all conquering early 80s Paris Dakar beemers ;)

Though I'd like to have seen the privateer in the 50s who won on a R27 beemer :lol:

Crasherfromwayback

10th April 2018, 14:59

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1595470279.htm?rsqid=e63a6f2fff96443a94d1835590fa4 411

This always gets me... "Fully restored. Everything that needed to be done has been done. Totally original."

Totally original is just that. Fully restored is just that. You can't be both.

Voltaire

10th April 2018, 15:32

Maybe they were Boxers in disguise! Oh hang on...

8 minutes of wet fart, sump grinding action pre R80G/S, sit back with a Bier und Pretsal and enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ6mSGLVquI

sidecar bob

10th April 2018, 15:48

8 minutes of wet fart, sump grinding action.

Phew, I thought you were posting gay porn.:bleh:

sidecar bob

10th April 2018, 15:51

BMW had team bikes in ISDT since the thirties and in later years through the 60-70s were often involved in with with either their own team or privateer support

To say the Bernd's bike is solely responsible for the introduction of the R80GS is a bit of a stretch

A similar thing happened with the E30 touring.
https://ranwhenparked.net/2013/10/16/the-story-behind-the-bmw-3-series-e30-touring/

Crasherfromwayback

10th April 2018, 16:20

8 minutes of wet fart, ]

Arrrrrgh! My ears! To be fair, we see a shitload of Boxers most Thursdays at work, as Michael Dobson works with us then. So I get to hear plenty on a reg basis...

HenryDorsetCase

10th April 2018, 17:13

It is a weird configuration for an off road engine, innit? Has anyone ever smacked a cylinder or head off one?

Crasherfromwayback

10th April 2018, 17:23

Has anyone ever smacked a cylinder or head off one?

Every time i see one I'm sorely tempted!

T.W.R

10th April 2018, 17:38

It is a weird configuration for an off road engine

Hercules Rotary is even more of an odd set-up for off road; that's a 1977 ISDT bike

http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23103&d=1138552825

sidecar bob

10th April 2018, 18:30

Arrrrrgh! My ears! To be fair, we see a shitload of Boxers most Thursdays at work, as Michael Dobson works with us then. So I get to hear plenty on a reg basis...

He's a legend. I've restored Kasper, the K100 race bike he & a few chums built up in the '80's that Bill raced.
What a bunch of colourful chaps.

Crasherfromwayback

10th April 2018, 18:41

He's a legend. I've restored Kasper, the K100 race bike he & a few chums built up in the '80's that Bill raced.
What a bunch of colourful chaps.

Indeed! We always enjoy funny stories with beer after work. They're (Boyle Kawasaki) gonna have another do soon. If it's anything like the last one, it'll be fucking awesome! All manner of people came out of the woodwork.

Kickaha

10th April 2018, 18:43

BMW have Schek to thank for the all conquering early 80s Paris Dakar beemers ;)

He did some interesting stuff but even when he was a privateer he was well supplied by BMW

He rode the rotary engined bikes before going back to BMW

It is a weird configuration for an off road engine, innit? Has anyone ever smacked a cylinder or head off one?

I tried on the front of an L300 van in 1988, it just fucked my exhaust and the threads on the cylinder head

This always gets me... "Fully restored. Everything that needed to be done has been done. Totally original."
I was looking at the twin to that bike last week just down the road from work

sidecar bob

10th April 2018, 18:48

Indeed! We always enjoy funny stories with beer after work. They're (Boyle Kawasaki) gonna have another do soon. If it's anything like the last one, it'll be fucking awesome! All manner of people came out of the woodwork.

Andrew from TSS is one of those colourful characters too. He's full of good surprises.
Kasper belongs to him, technically I'm just minding it.

Grumph

10th April 2018, 19:19

It is a weird configuration for an off road engine, innit? Has anyone ever smacked a cylinder or head off one?

I screwed the engine back together on a late cammer that had one side knocked off. Bit of welding on the cases and a s/h barrel and (lower compression) piston off ebay. Went OK but someone will get a surprise when it needs work, LOL.

Incidentally, if anyone knows the trick to keeping both cam chains on the crank while you button each side up, I'd like to hear it. I managed with a couple of pieces of bicycle innertube slid down the chains but I'm sure there's a factory tool.

Laava

10th April 2018, 20:30

Lol! Looks like a school metalshop project
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1589249123.htm?rsqid=9616bccdc3dd478dbee17c22e2c64 d2e

AllanB

10th April 2018, 20:38

Lol! Looks like a school metalshop project
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1589249123.htm?rsqid=9616bccdc3dd478dbee17c22e2c64 d2e

It's kind of cool. I'd be very worried about this comment in the advert though
So close to getting on the road just needs someone with some fresh motivation and a little bit of time to get it road legal.

Which reads to me as: there is no way they would give it a VIN plate without spending a lot of coin....

husaberg

10th April 2018, 20:42

Lol! Looks like a school metalshop project
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1589249123.htm?rsqid=9616bccdc3dd478dbee17c22e2c64 d2e
there is a whole site that does kits for those bikes.
the café kits actually end up looking okay compared to what the std bike looks like.
http://rycamotors.com/RYCA-cs1-cafe-racer-kit.html
336079336080336081

Crasherfromwayback

10th April 2018, 20:57

Andrew from TSS is one of those colourful characters too. He's full of good surprises.
Kasper belongs to him, technically I'm just minding it.

Andrew Lawrence is a bloody nice chap, as is his lad.

F5 Dave

11th April 2018, 00:25

Andrew Lawrence is a bloody nice chap, as is his lad.

And it's nice to have someone behind the counter who actually knows about shit they are selling and cares to learn shit. Jay has taken on the same attitude but it's still hard not to think of him as a pimpley 13yr old who never said boo. Must be getting old.

jellywrestler

11th April 2018, 06:22

learn shit. Jay has taken on the same attitude but it's still hard not to think of him as a pimpley 13yr old who never said boo. . he probably did when he watched the motogp start at the weekend

sidecar bob

11th April 2018, 06:50

And it's nice to have someone behind the counter who actually knows about shit they are selling and cares to learn shit. Jay has taken on the same attitude but it's still hard not to think of him as a pimpley 13yr old who never said boo.

Knowing what I do about him, I'd say he was doing a lot of listening.

Scubbo

11th April 2018, 08:38

there is a whole site that does kits for those bikes.
the café kits actually end up looking okay compared to what the std bike looks like.
http://rycamotors.com/RYCA-cs1-cafe-racer-kit.html
336079336080336081

such a rip those kits though :lol:

jasonu

11th April 2018, 16:48

Drew

11th April 2018, 17:26

jellywrestler

11th April 2018, 19:00

Must be if people are bidding on it. I wouldn't think so.

the culture of bikes as investments is rife in the usa, recenetlty a wincheseter motorcycle sold for an exorbitant price considering what type of bike it was, ie similar to a lot of other single cylinder bikes of the era, nothing special at all, but with that name the gun collectors went for it, turns out there's guns that have sold for way more than the most expensive motorcycle sale in history, heaps more.
rg500's rc30's are at the top of the list of jap investments, so it's not pricey at all.

as a bike you;ve owned the old british stuff was part of you, you spent the weekend working on it to get back to work during the week, and you could work on it, restore one yourself, and fire it up after six months in the corner
jap bikes were reliable, they were transport and a throaway item too, they are very hard to restore compared and easy to die in a corner with multiple fine orificed carbs etc,
in short they don't have the 'character' of the other stuff....

jellywrestler

11th April 2018, 19:04

Must be if people are bidding on it. I wouldn't think so.

actually it's good money for a resto mod, mind you, Croz sells his z900's for about that and they sell well, was up there a month ago and there was a line up of them on the go, you
don't do that if they're not selling.

husaberg

11th April 2018, 19:09

Was up for Buy It Now for $26500USD with no takers.
Now has bids at over $18k USD.
Nice bike. Worth that sort of money? I don't know.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/152976213413?ViewItem=&vxp=mtr&item=152976213413

Must be if people are bidding on it. I wouldn't think so.

Probably is in The USA they were not officially imported after all.

the culture of bikes as investments is rife in the usa, recenetlty a wincheseter motorcycle sold for an exorbitant price considering what type of bike it was, ie similar to a lot of other single cylinder bikes of the era, nothing special at all, but with that name the gun collectors went for it, turns out there's guns that have sold for way more than the most expensive motorcycle sale in history, heaps more.
rg500's rc30's are at the top of the list of jap investments, so it's not pricey at all.

As cool as RG500s are I don't think they rate as high in collectability as an RC30 or OW01 would
Plus the NR750 would be closer to the top of the jap collectors pole for bikes other then works or strictly racing bikes, along with the CBX1000 and Honda CX turbo.

Grumph

11th April 2018, 19:27

Probably is in The USA they were not officially imported after all.

As cool as RG500s are I don't think they rate as high in collectability as an RC30 or OW01 would
Plus the NR750 would be closer to the top of the jap collectors pole for bikes other then works or strictly racing bikes, along with the CBX1000 and Honda CX turbo.

The key is in your first sentence. We got a lot they didn't - and value some models very differently. I wouldn't have an RG500 if you paid me. I worked on the bastards when they were still pretty new. RC's and OW's with history are worth having - after you've sorted them.
The CBX is pretty common in the US - not so here. I've looked at the NR and seen/heard it run too. Not exciting, boring as a VFR. Doesn't even look that different.

husaberg

11th April 2018, 19:30

I've looked at the NR and seen/heard it run too. Not exciting, boring as a VFR. Doesn't even look that different.

I cant remember for sure but I think they were 75K plus landed here.
Massimo Tamburini admitted in the press that the styling lines of the 916 were based on the NR750.
the styling flowed through to other Hondas much later but much diluted.
I think the RF900 even had the louvers pre the NR750
by all accounts Something like 80% of NR750's never even started they were simply brought as collector models.
probably 25% of RC30's were the same.

jasonu

12th April 2018, 02:20

The key is in your first sentence. We got a lot they didn't - .

Might be worth looking into sending a nice example from NZ to here.

Grumph

12th April 2018, 06:45

Might be worth looking into sending a nice example from NZ to here.

Well, I've got a mate who's overstocked....Among the crap is a roughish, pretty complete RG500 - and one that has been put into a banana arm RG250 chassis. That's nearly complete too. If you want to make offers, let me know. We can start an optimistic buyers thread.

jasonu

12th April 2018, 07:22

Well, I've got a mate who's overstocked....Among the crap is a roughish, pretty complete RG500 - and one that has been put into a banana arm RG250 chassis. That's nearly complete too. If you want to make offers, let me know. We can start an optimistic buyers thread.

5 buck and a bag of chups.

Actually I will give it a bit of thought.

T.W.R

12th April 2018, 07:48

Might be worth looking into sending a nice example from NZ to here.

We could send you a few RG400s in exchange ;) got a few of them during the grey import era

Well, I've got a mate who's overstocked....Among the crap is a roughish, pretty complete RG500 - and one that has been put into a banana arm RG250 chassis.

A mate in Rakaia has a couple of 500s & a couple of 400s he could do with a thin out. Wasn't that many yrs back and the stories of the chap in England doing the 500/250 hybrids who couldn't keep up with demand for them

HenryDorsetCase

12th April 2018, 10:59

Well, I've got a mate who's overstocked....Among the crap is a roughish, pretty complete RG500 - and one that has been put into a banana arm RG250 chassis. That's nearly complete too. If you want to make offers, let me know. We can start an optimistic buyers thread.

four grand for the RGV250/RG500 hybrid provided it runs. Cash money!