Optimistic sellers

[pritch]

Just as many people buy a sports bike and then shell out for a bunch of parts too. Is that different somehow?

Yeah although that seems to be worse in Britain than here, people fit purple screens and a bunch of garishly coloured anodised bits. Having said that, to a certain extent I've regarded my last four bikes as something of a blank canvas.

[jellywrestler]

This guy needs to give it a rest. This bike has some real value, but the market has spoken for the last year+ you've been listing it: your asking price is too high.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1867657990&

i got one of those, paid just over a third of that for it a couple of years ago, good solid cool bike, way more fun than my vincent to ride so that's on the market.
he should really be keeping an eye on ebay for the correct switchblocks etc, at that price people really want an investment and that means stock, or at least the parts on hand

[tigertim20]

no really over here, it's rare to see a stock harley, most sports bikes might have a muffler tail tidy stomp grip levers and rear sets, but that's about all they do.

Yeah but a pipe usually means a power commander as well. Rear sets ain't cheap and neither are pipes, or quality levers.

Late model bike is easily 2k plus for pipe 500 ish PCv 300 is rearsets 600-1000, pazos are a couple hundy. Adds up quick.

[F5 Dave]

I think you will find many don't buy the PC3 and aliexpress the rest, for better or worse.
(Cough) I have some very nice looking shorty levers sitting on a shelf as I had to conceed they didn't work as well as the originals.


Drew is trying to call me out on my brash statement, and to an extent he has a point.

But I'd argue that improvements on a sportsbike are much slimmer than on a ditch pump. Even the good lord Taylor proclaimed the std shocks were less than fit and combined with short travel.

[AllanB]

Just as many people buy a sports bike and then shell out for a bunch of parts too. Is that different somehow?


They wear brighter leather.


Same thing. Personalizing their ride. Healthy in my opinion.

[AllanB]

Yeah but a pipe usually means a power commander as well. Rear sets ain't cheap and neither are pipes, or quality levers.

Late model bike is easily 2k plus for pipe 500 ish PCv 300 is rearsets 600-1000, pazos are a couple hundy. Adds up quick.


I'd bet a beer the majority do not fit a PC or similar - just add the louder muffler.


I've just ordered myself a set of CRG levers for Christmas. Spiffier than a spiffy thing.

[AllanB]

But I'd argue that improvements on a sportsbike are much slimmer than on a ditch pump.

So you are saying you should spend money on improving a HD as opposed to a sportbike as you'll get better value for your money ;)

[F5 Dave]

One might make that association but that is ignoring the ​sunk cost fallacy.

[Drew]

One might make that association but that is ignoring the ​sunk cost fallacy.

That's just motorcycling. Unless one is buying a $400 GN250 and hacking it to pieces then selling for $4K.

[F5 Dave]

Ah! So the dirty dirty truth comes out! You paid money for that GN:crazy:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah although that seems to be worse in Britain than here, people fit purple screens and a bunch of garishly coloured anodised bits. Having said that, to a certain extent I've regarded my last four bikes as something of a blank canvas.

tyres then suspension work followed by crash protection followed by pointless bling.... my 2c

[HenryDorsetCase]

One might make that association but that is ignoring the ​sunk cost fallacy.

Bag them all you like but take a modern one for a ride. They are surprisingly capable and fun bikes to ride. Plus they seem to hold their value well. I'd have one.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah but a pipe usually means a power commander as well. Rear sets ain't cheap and neither are pipes, or quality levers.

Late model bike is easily 2k plus for pipe 500 ish PCv 300 is rearsets 600-1000, pazos are a couple hundy. Adds up quick.

Am I right in thinking that the market for pipes and reflashes and so forth is drastically reduced on a new bike because Euro 4 and 5 and emissions bullshit means it is unlawful to change that stuff?

I could be wrong and I hope I am.

[tigertim20]

Am I right in thinking that the market for pipes and reflashes and so forth is drastically reduced on a new bike because Euro 4 and 5 and emissions bullshit means it is unlawful to change that stuff?

I could be wrong and I hope I am.

I don't think so, there's still plenty of providers offering flashing services. and its hard to spot a late model sportsbike that's bone stock, so Id say the vast majority are modifying still.

As far as I'm aware there aren't any countries that do any type of spot checks or WOF style checks that check for actual emissions so I think it's kind of a pointless rule since its willfully ignored.

edited to add that since most of the factory aftermarket parts providers (GYTR for yamaha for example) offer a variety of pipe options it's sort of shws that even the manufacturers expect people to modify the minute they roll their new ride out the door

[Honest Andy]

Bag them all you like but take a modern one for a ride. They are surprisingly capable and fun bikes to ride. Plus they seem to hold their value well. I'd have one.

My brother turned up one day a few years ago and gave me his new one for a blat. I just about lost it the first time I wound on the throttle and found myself pushed so far back in the seat I couldn't turn off the juice!
After that I only used half the power but kept scraping the footplates on every corner...
I gave it back and said "I don't get it"

[Honest Andy]

tyres then suspension work followed by crash protection followed by pointless bling.... my 2c

Indeed that is a good priority list.

I still haven't got round to getting the ding taken out of the tank on one of mine, but the suspension is perfect :niceone:

[AllanB]

Am I right in thinking that the market for pipes and reflashes and so forth is drastically reduced on a new bike because Euro 4 and 5 and emissions bullshit means it is unlawful to change that stuff?

I could be wrong and I hope I am.

Currently we are pretty lucky in NZ with motorcycle modifications. In theory it is illegal to eliminate the cat from your exhaust or run something that is louder than stock without a certificate - but no one appears to care come WOF time.
Heck my Termignoni slip-ons have a plate riveted to the back of them stating 'for competition use only'. The VTNZ chap thought they sounded good when he checked it for a WOF. ;)

Every couple years the Govt talks about testing emissions as part of a WOF (stick a sensor up the pipe) - they keep chickening out.

[Drew]

Ah! So the dirty dirty truth comes out! You paid money for that GN:crazy:

I did no such thing.

[WALRUS]

I HATE these Tyga bodykits, the original OEM shape looks so much better in my opinion.. BUT I do like that this is the first time I've seen someone relocate the exhaust to match the RC211-V

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1865776123.htm?rsqid=71498776367c4941b0e8704321457 75b

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/923993143.jpg

WELL, almost.. It should have been a 4 into 2 arrangement with one in the tail fairing and one side mounted but I'll let it pass

Not even that optimistic a sale either, I just wanted to share it with someone/s

[Autech]

I HATE these Tyga bodykits, the original OEM shape looks so much better in my opinion.. BUT I do like that this is the first time I've seen someone relocate the exhaust to match the RC211-V

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1865776123.htm?rsqid=71498776367c4941b0e8704321457 75b

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/923993143.jpg

WELL, almost.. It should have been a 4 into 2 arrangement with one in the tail fairing and one side mounted but I'll let it pass

Not even that optimistic a sale either, I just wanted to share it with someone/sSeen that.
Want.
Want very much

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[george formby]

Seen that.
Want.
Want very much

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For the first few photos so did my G/F, but she felt the 69 on it would draw unwarranted attention.

She has a lovely little bum.

Lovely bike.

[Drew]

Reckon that's about three grand heavy.

Horrid piles of shit.

[HenryDorsetCase]

For the first few photos so did my G/F, but she felt the 69 on it would draw unwarranted attention.

She has a lovely little bum.

Lovely bike.

wait, whut?

[pritch]

Yeah but a pipe usually means a power commander as well. Rear sets ain't cheap and neither are pipes, or quality levers.

Late model bike is easily 2k plus for pipe 500 ish PCv 300 is rearsets 600-1000, pazos are a couple hundy. Adds up quick.

When I went to AMPS for a custom map there was a non-stop racket from Harleys getting dyno'd for custom maps. Whether any of the riders actually used the added grunt is another matter.

Quality levers? Pazzo levers are rip offs, imitations of the real thing. CRG are the real deal.

[Autech]

Reckon that's about three grand heavy.

Horrid piles of shit.I'd pay 4-5 for it any day of the week.

Gimme


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[WALRUS]

Yeah, NC30's and NC35's have started going for stupid money over here if you can find one for sale. I remember when they just used to be cheap (like, just a couple of grand), old, small bikes.. Now $6k is a cheap one

[george formby]

Yeah, NC30's and NC35's have started going for stupid money over here if you can find one for sale. I remember when they just used to be cheap (like, just a couple of grand), old, small bikes.. Now $6k is a cheap one


What are the chances this one has spent time on a race track?

[F5 Dave]

Or under a milk float? Actually not as much as they kinda got phased out in the early 90s but it's where my RZ apparently ended up losing its life.

Tyga NSR tart ups are. . . . Actually seriously cool. Have a look under their options. There's an NSR300 jobbie in CMM mag December ( I think) with Rothmans fag packet livery and it looks cool.

[george formby]

Or under a milk float? Actually not as much as they kinda got phased out in the early 90s but it's where my RZ apparently ended up losing its life.

Tyga NSR tart ups are. . . . Actually seriously cool. Have a look under their options. There's an NSR300 jobbie in CMM mag December ( I think) with Rothmans fag packet livery and it looks cool.

Just mentioned it coz the body work looks as if it's been on and off quite a few times. In a hurry.

NSR's are seriously cool, full stop. It's amazing how many are being used in Japan for motogymkhana, must still be shed loads of them over there.

[WALRUS]

Tyga NSR tart ups are. . . . Actually seriously cool.

There's no denying they make some nice stuff, but the RC211-V bodykits they do for these and the old CBR250R/RR's look so crappy.. I think it's the headlight shape and placement that does it and the shape of the rear cowl. They mould in this round bit which is where one of the exhausts were on the 211-V as just a bit of plastic and it looks shithouse IMHO haha. That's one of the reasons why I like the one I listed above, they've actually relocated the exhaust.. Headlights still look crappy though.

[WALRUS]

I'd love one to park next to the 996 but this guy doesn't know how old the belts are or when they were last checked (meh, easy enough to tension or change yourself) and also the comment about "the paint is not that great but can be expected being 18 years old".. Yeeeeah pretty sure they ain't the original fairings and paint, buddy! Also, I'm curious as to where the original mirrors are and indicators/why they aren't on there.. I suspect they got fucked in the same stack which wrote off the original fairings, requiring the cheap chinese MotoGP reps to replace them.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1869617312.htm?rsqid=bbf26f21a1e44bc58339635a76a8b 943

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/929848706.jpg

It's a shame to see something which started life as a special, expensive thing turn into.. That..

[YellowDog]

I think you are right about the fairings.

They're supposed to look more like this kind of shape:

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/714520261.jpg

[WALRUS]

Sorry about bad pictures, they don't do the bike justice.

Sure, it's a real work of art!

He says the previous owner has put on a Ninja tail fairing? Looks more like an '03-'05 R6 tail to me..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1855697226.htm?rsqid=004ba9960c5c4bf2a0992ccacac3d b3b

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/852208803.jpg


It's been a lovely bike to work on

Good, looks like you'll be going a bit of work if you buy it..

[Vinz0r]

There's no denying they make some nice stuff, but the RC211-V bodykits they do for these and the old CBR250R/RR's look so crappy.. I think it's the headlight shape and placement that does it and the shape of the rear cowl. They mould in this round bit which is where one of the exhausts were on the 211-V as just a bit of plastic and it looks shithouse IMHO haha. That's one of the reasons why I like the one I listed above, they've actually relocated the exhaust.. Headlights still look crappy though.

The new kit that Tyga have out for the NC30 and NSR looks bloody amazing. A lot cleaner than their old offerings.

http://iforce.co.nz/i/4gllcm0z.0cq.jpg

http://iforce.co.nz/i/gkjk0drs.cp5.jpg

[WALRUS]

MUCH better.. I still prefer OEM... Better than THIS abomination..

http://jap4performance.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/bpfs003303.jpg

[F5 Dave]

4 yr old dirt bike

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1873238518.htm?rsqid=38d66f76e8514ac1bb76832b31bf1 5fa

[george formby]

4 yr old dirt bike

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1873238518.htm?rsqid=38d66f76e8514ac1bb76832b31bf1 5fa

That opens up another conversation about plastics.

120 hrs is about 24 rides @ 5 hours per giggle.

:wait:

[F5 Dave]

6 yr old competition bike. No suspension work and obsolete.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1872249233.htm?rsqid=38d66f76e8514ac1bb76832b31bf1 5fa

Now expense spared. Or normal maintenance. Semantics.

[fridayflash]

6 yr old competition bike. No suspension work and obsolete.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1872249233.htm?rsqid=38d66f76e8514ac1bb76832b31bf1 5fa

Now expense spared. Or normal maintenance. Semantics.

Pfft! absolutely dreamimg there, two years ago i bought a '13 ktm125 for my son, 70 hours and in faultless condition for $4200.00
which was a bargain price but even still, this guy is a wank:tugger:

[pritch]

4 yr old dirt bike

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1873238518.htm?rsqid=38d66f76e8514ac1bb76832b31bf1 5fa

He wants 7 grand but there's multiple between 5 and 6.

[Fresh Oats]

The new kit that Tyga have out for the NC30 and NSR looks bloody amazing. A lot cleaner than their old offerings.

http://iforce.co.nz/i/4gllcm0z.0cq.jpg

http://iforce.co.nz/i/gkjk0drs.cp5.jpg

Holy shit. I'm kinda meh in regards to sports bike looks, but that... that's sexy as fuck.

[Vinz0r]

Holy shit. I'm kinda meh in regards to sports bike looks, but that... that's sexy as fuck.

Yeah the tail is a lot more minimal and curves to follow the lines of the bike, it doesn't have all the gaudy rubbish that the other Tyga kits have. The headlights are a little too futuristic looking for me, but miles better than the older kits which have the headlights way too close together.

[WALRUS]

Eh, I'm still running with OEM looking best with NC30's and NC35s... I mean, you have a wee baby RC30/45, why the fuck would you change that? :P

[F5 Dave]

The NSR I think looks the biscuits. But a quick read reveals those lights aren't road legal. It would be a risk as if you didn't get through the WOF, well, then what? Won't find anything to replace them. Retain a whole std fairing, brackets lights etc for each WOF? What a faff.

[Autech]

They look good but they also look good bone stock. Who needs fancy fairings when you have a single sided swingarm that looks that sexy?

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[HenryDorsetCase]

Eh, I'm still running with OEM looking best with NC30's and NC35s... I mean, you have a wee baby RC30/45, why the fuck would you change that? :P

bottom pic actual RC30

[Fresh Oats]

The NSR I think looks the biscuits. But a quick read reveals those lights aren't road legal. It would be a risk as if you didn't get through the WOF, well, then what? Won't find anything to replace them. Retain a whole std fairing, brackets lights etc for each WOF? What a faff.

Oh that sucks. Take it to VTNZ? they're not as knowledgeable as bike shops.

[FlangMasterJ]

The new kit that Tyga have out for the NC30 and NSR looks bloody amazing. A lot cleaner than their old offerings.

Hnnnnnnnnng! :drool:

Yeah that's the tits.

[YellowDog]

6 yr old competition bike. No suspension work and obsolete.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-1872249233.htm?rsqid=38d66f76e8514ac1bb76832b31bf1 5fa

Now expense spared. Or normal maintenance. Semantics.

Must have been totally fucked before:

Brand new piston and rings not yet run in
Brand new sprockets and renthal chain
Brand new rear disc and pads
Brand new graphics
Brand new pro circuit chamber and pipe
Boyesen RAD Valve
3x twin air air filters

Before and after photos are always welcome :yes:

[F5 Dave]

Top 3 items done every year on a competition bike or more if you want to be competitive. All cheapish for a 2 stroke.

The bottom ones most race monkeys would consider imperative. Especially the stickers.

[AllanB]

Stickers are know to add up to 5hp if placed in the correct position on the bike.

A lot of people make the mistake of placing them on the swingarm or front forks - this will not assist at all.

To be effective stickers must be placed on the lower fairing or belly-pan. Small ones are acceptable on the tail but this will reduce the hp-gain ratio by between 2 and 2.5%.

It is also acceptable to place your favorite tyre brand sticker on the front guard. You won't gain any hp with this sticker but you will find the front end will turn in slightly quicker.

Helmet stickers mainly assist in distracting other riders, thus having a consequential effect on keeping you ahead of them.

[Autech]

Stickers are know to add up to 5hp if placed in the correct position on the bike.

A lot of people make the mistake of placing them on the swingarm or front forks - this will not assist at all.

To be effective stickers must be placed on the lower fairing or belly-pan. Small ones are acceptable on the tail but this will reduce the hp-gain ratio by between 2 and 2.5%.

It is also acceptable to place your favorite tyre brand sticker on the front guard. You won't gain any hp with this sticker but you will find the front end will turn in slightly quicker.

Helmet stickers mainly assist in distracting other riders, thus having a consequential effect on keeping you ahead of them.I find that if you place the sticks on your tool box they have the effect of giving the HP to more than one bike. Its effects are slightly diluted as all the bikes have to share but it gives them all the edge

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[husaberg]

Must have been totally fucked before:

Brand new piston and rings not yet run in
Brand new sprockets and renthal chain
Brand new rear disc and pads
Brand new graphics
Brand new pro circuit chamber and pipe
Boyesen RAD Valve
3x twin air air filters

Before and after photos are always welcome :yes:
Never seen one with a blue frame looks neat in blue

[F5 Dave]

Stickers are know to add up to 5hp if placed in the correct position on the bike.

A lot of people make the mistake of placing them on the swingarm or front forks - this will not assist at all.

To be effective stickers must be placed on the lower fairing or belly-pan. Small ones are acceptable on the tail but this will reduce the hp-gain ratio by between 2 and 2.5%.
. . . .
Um,. . . Have you seen a dirt bike before?:wacko:

[WALRUS]

bottom pic actual RC30

Indeed it is. There's a bloke who races over here, got a shed of modern Jap race bikes, and a pair of 996's.. And a MINT RC30.. Bastard! I did "race" one of his sons on the RC30 around our local circuit on my 996 but yeah, spent most of my time behind it to have a look and a listen (well, that's my excuse)

[AllanB]

Meh - spend you money on a V4 Aprilia or Ducati :yes:

Honda are dicks. They have the V4 heritage to dive into and the Moto GP bikes but only produce one for a touring bike.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Meh - spend you money on a V4 Aprilia or Ducati :yes:

Honda are dicks. They have the V4 heritage to dive into and the Moto GP bikes but only produce one for a touring bike.

I was offered a VERY tasty Aprilia V41000 sprotsbike thing RVF something?. Ohlins each end, Brembo, Akra Ti full system, reflashed. 201hp dyno sheet.

$22k. I want it.

[WALRUS]

RSV-4 Factory? They're fun!

[jasonu]

$4k for a fucked bike you can't even register until you deal with the very hard to deal with DMV
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Honda-CBX/302997018555?hash=item468c0797bb:g:q5kAAOSwtKlcFDz Z&vxp=mtr

or for a little more a quite nice ready to go example.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Honda-CBX/192755227074?hash=item2ce11b59c2:g:IZgAAOSw0YlcEAB R&vxp=mtr

[jasonu]

1 mile CBX.
Dreaming at $20k????
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Honda-CBX/292860738445?hash=item442fdc3b8d:g:TtUAAOSwmkBcDwC v&vxp=mtr

[F5 Dave]

Well. . . The early twin shock ones are worth a bunch more than the revised monoshock ones. It's a pity the dude didn't put away a couple of those.
But for collectors those prices don't look too outlandish.

[HenryDorsetCase]

RSV-4 Factory? They're fun!

It has six axis IMU for the TC and ABS. And an app for your phone.

[AllanB]

And an app for your phone.

Which does what out of interest? Probably tracks you .......... big brother is watching.

Maybe you get a special back door pass to the factory grid girls private website.

With electronic this and that adjusting via your smartphone is coming. Suspension needs a tweak - no tools dial in a few clicks on the app.

[Autech]

I'd love a CBX... One day...

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[HenryDorsetCase]

I'd love a CBX... One day...

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the only one I want has a Spondon frame and single sided swingarm. And a turbo.

[jim.cox]

Five years old and 43 000 km.

I know these Tenere's were well overpriced new

But I can think of a heap better ways to spend 11.5 grand...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1876968883.htm

[russd7]

Five years old and 43 000 km.

I know these Tenere's were well overpriced new

But I can think of a heap better ways to spend 11.5 grand...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-1876968883.htm

you obviously did not read the full description, "Forget what all the other bikes have, this bike has quality and it will outlast the others " this is obviously why it is worth what its listed for.

[jellywrestler]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1877731382.htm?rsqid=73549e68baff465292b6090abb431 7f4

$7k for paint and it's only got painted tank and sidecovers, what the fuck????

[Owl]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1877731382.htm?rsqid=73549e68baff465292b6090abb431 7f4

$7k for paint and it's only got painted tank and sidecovers, what the fuck????

Shit I need to start doing perks again.:blip:

[husaberg]

This is what the CB1100 should have looked like from the start!
Nah
<img src="https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/735649298.jpg" Height="440px"/><img src="https://world.honda.com/EWC/invincible/images/1979_1_2.jpg" Height="440px"/>
<img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uXgjvegn-Bs/SgLgqDnbVII/AAAAAAAAEzc/Z5O5YteUL6g/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/RS+1000+Works+Endurance+03.jpg" Height="440px"/><img src="https://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mori-right.jpg" Height="440px"/>

[Autech]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1877731382.htm?rsqid=73549e68baff465292b6090abb431 7f4

$7k for paint and it's only got painted tank and sidecovers, what the fuck????They spelt it color too not colour so I am going to go bitch slap them

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[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1877731382.htm?rsqid=73549e68baff465292b6090abb431 7f4

$7k for paint and it's only got painted tank and sidecovers, what the fuck????

I read that as they were new items purchased at great expense. He says the originals are included in the sale. I think that those items on the bike are made by someone as a kit to transform your CB1100 into a CB750-alike.

I really love that bike but not at $18k. Its a great example of how you dont get back farkle money when selling. This is the model to have though: 6 speed and ABS. Blue Wang imported a few of the early ones which were 5 speed no ABS and tried to sell them for $20k.

Also, Honda RSC is sort of cooler than HRC. Though not by much

[YellowDog]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1877731382.htm?rsqid=73549e68baff465292b6090abb431 7f4

$7k for paint and it's only got painted tank and sidecovers, what the fuck????


I'm a big retro fan and that is a fine example.

Not so sure how you spend $7k on a paint job, with so few panels to paint :wacko:

[Murray]

1 mile CBX.
Dreaming at $20k????
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Honda-CBX/292860738445?hash=item442fdc3b8d:g:TtUAAOSwmkBcDwC v&vxp=mtr

Sold tho!!

[F5 Dave]

No it didn't. Relisted.

[Voltaire]

My first bike.
Unfortunately they don't make Rose Tinted Glasses strong enough to make me want to drop 5K into one....+revin.
The lack of cam bearing ensured I never want one ever again.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/934430475.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1877902443.htm?rsqid=1e35a0be875f4744916fbc0f5ae38 9df

[sidecar bob]

My first bike.
Unfortunately they don't make Rose Tinted Glasses strong enough to make me want to drop 5K into one....+revin.
The lack of cam bearing ensured I never want one ever again.


I machined up a plate & tig'd it to the top cam chain cover that held a 6 series bearing & held the cam on the part between the cam chain sprocket & advancer where the seal usually ran & used a LLU sealed bearing.
Could never make it oil tight though.

[Ocean1]

I machined up a plate & tig'd it to the top cam chain cover that held a 6 series bearing & held the cam on the part between the cam chain sprocket & advancer where the seal usually ran & used a LLU sealed bearing.
Could never make it oil tight though.

I bored the journals, made sintered bronze shells and pinned them in place. Think I did two 125's and three 175's, worked just fine.

Some bikes seemed to suffer more than others, a friend's 125 did absurd miles and never had a problem.

[AllanB]

I read that as they were new items purchased at great expense. He says the originals are included in the sale. I think that those items on the bike are made by someone as a kit to transform your CB1100 into a CB750-alike.
Though not by much


Advert is worded poorly.

I has a K10 kit on it - full new tanks and other goodness to give it that original CB750 look. Looks fantastic and it costs coin to do so.

Here is the link to such spiffyness and cost. There is a currency convertor on the left of the site - full K10 kit is NZ$6,800 plus.

https://www.samurider.com/?cat=253

[F5 Dave]

Fuk these are ugly


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1880170432.htm?rsqid=6d5074d51a444717ad61043bcd2bb f26

[F5 Dave]

What the actual fuck?!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1879282169.htm?rsqid=6d5074d51a444717ad61043bcd2bb f26

[layton]

What the actual fuck?!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1879282169.htm?rsqid=6d5074d51a444717ad61043bcd2bb f26

Yeeeeesssss, that is one sexy beast.

[AllanB]

What the actual fuck?!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1879282169.htm?rsqid=6d5074d51a444717ad61043bcd2bb f26


That is fucking cool and if it was local I'd seriously consider a bid.

The Mantra must be getting to the point when they are so ugly they become collectible.

[Voltaire]

What the actual fuck?!


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1879282169.htm?rsqid=6d5074d51a444717ad61043bcd2bb f26

Greek style :msn-wink:

Looks to be some parts missing.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/MEBEA_pickup.jpg/1097px-MEBEA_pickup.jpg

[pritch]

Fuk these are ugly


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1880170432.htm?rsqid=6d5074d51a444717ad61043bcd2bb f26

Bimotas can be things of unsurpassed beauty. Then there are those.

[jasonu]

Fuk these are ugly


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1880170432.htm?rsqid=6d5074d51a444717ad61043bcd2bb f26

Yep bloody hideous.

[F5 Dave]

I've seen one, parked at boxing day races in Yellow Black and Silver that was somehow worse.

[Drew]

I need a fucken 'tuk tuk' in my life.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah, that heady combination of taking up as much parking space as a car and inadequacy facing Wellington hills.:crazy:


Wait. A fucking tuk tuk you say? So you might have a racing tuk tuk, a commuting tuk tuk, and then, . . .

[AllanB]

Wait. A fucking tuk tuk you say? So you might have a racing tuk tuk, a commuting tuk tuk, and then, . . .


Go to Thailand and there is a real risk that you end up fucking someone who was tuck tucking their dick when you started buying 'her' drinks at the start of the evening ......

[HenryDorsetCase]

Go to Thailand and there is a real risk that you end up fucking someone who was tuck tucking their dick when you started buying 'her' drinks at the start of the evening ......

Two drinks in I wouldnt care. Long as I wake up with my wallet, both my kidneys and no hangover I'm good

[AllanB]

Two drinks in I wouldnt care. Long as I wake up with my wallet, both my kidneys and no hangover I'm good


There was a doco on TV a few years aback about the Thai lady boys. Apparently when the punter finds out that the delightful young lady he has home has a dick nine out of ten carry on.
The other beats the shit out of them - probably when they realize the lady girl has a larger pee pee then they do.

[Runty]

I bored the journals, made sintered bronze shells and pinned them in place. Think I did two 125's and three 175's, worked just fine.

Some bikes seemed to suffer more than others, a friend's 125 did absurd miles and never had a problem.Had an SL125 as my first bike too
I did the cam twice - the rings twice the piston and small end once and eventually the big ends once as well
The Haines manual said "Seperate the crankshaft assembly" - so I did - with a hammer and cold chisel!!!
Amazingly all the dents evened out and it balanced easily (at a shop with a press - i didnt hammer it back together)
Learnt a lot from that wee bike - damn piece of junk :-)


Sent from my SOV32 using Tapatalk

[babysteps]

Thai lady boys.

Any old Port in a Storm

[mulletman]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1882769061.htm?rsqid=e72618a443874dfeb41eecaece8d6 81d

Gotta be a poms bike...:facepalm:

[babysteps]

That is Special.....

[AllanB]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1882769061.htm?rsqid=e72618a443874dfeb41eecaece8d6 81d

Gotta be a poms bike...:facepalm:

Agree.

It's like someone was on acid and on the internet with their credit card.

[pritch]

It's impressive but it's too bloody expensive. Who knows but that somebody might get caught up in the spirit of Christmas?

[Laava]

Done an average of 453km a year. Seems legit!

[Laava]

Two drinks in I wouldnt care. Long as I wake up with my wallet, both my kidneys and no hangover I'm good
That is very liberal of you! That happens in nz as well? Asking for a friend...

[YellowDog]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1882769061.htm?rsqid=e72618a443874dfeb41eecaece8d6 81d

Gotta be a poms bike...:facepalm:

More farkin gay than I will ever be.

Gotta be a Transgender or BumBandit curious bikers bike.


You can't unsee that hideous piss-flap pink seat :no:

[F5 Dave]

I like the, um, tyres are ok. Nissin brakes are always pretty good. . . Um. . . .

[Fresh Oats]

Well that things an absolute abomination.

[speedpro]

Love or hate the style, i can't make my mind up, I have to admit that it has been well done. Lots of attention to detail.

Like nearly every bike on the road at the moment a complete waste of time, 100kmh limit, 4 kmh tolerance, and roads infested by cops who believe speed kills and who have a duty to save us all.

[jasonu]

Love or hate the style, i can't make my mind up, I have to admit that it has been well done. Lots of attention to detail.

Like nearly every bike on the road at the moment a complete waste of time, 100kmh limit, 4 kmh tolerance, and roads infested by cops who believe speed kills and who have a duty to save us all.

yep those in charge are doing their best to make riding bikes on public roads a thing of the past.

[F5 Dave]

Deciding to get out to Wairarapa or garage day on the 500. Still lots of area out there.

Fuck living in Auckland.

[Fresh Oats]

wtf...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1881176464.htm?rsqid=41478263afbb41f5a2b2c312e9391 df5

[malcy25]

wtf...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1881176464.htm?rsqid=41478263afbb41f5a2b2c312e9391 df5

Add Brown seat, exhaust wrap, clip ons, knobblies/fat white walls, will sell in no time...

[YellowDog]

wtf...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1881176464.htm?rsqid=41478263afbb41f5a2b2c312e9391 df5

Nice shopping rack. Might even get my tools on there and use it to lane split my way to work :shit:

Not ever been a fan of trikes, but I do appreciate that as we get older...……………. :yawn:

[AllanB]

wtf...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1881176464.htm?rsqid=41478263afbb41f5a2b2c312e9391 df5


Interesting conversion - tidy for a trike in that it has been completed - most look like unfinished projects.

I'm interested if it has any rear suspension - the stock twin shocks are gone obviously and from the rear view it does not looks almost like a solid rear.

[YellowDog]

Interesting conversion - tidy for a trike in that it has been completed - most look like unfinished projects.

I'm interested if it has any rear suspension - the stock twin shocks are gone obviously and from the rear view it does not looks almost like a solid rear.

Not sure it would pass compliance with a solid rear.

Starting to grow on me, mainly because it is not too flashy and looks practical :yes:

[Dadpole]

Right. Stop that right now or I will have to come around and slap you. It is a poxy trike and fit for only scrap metal with its' silly little......OOOH.....Shiney and well done..... :drool:

As you were.....

[AllanB]

I asked the question. It's a rigid rear end.

[WALRUS]

Well, if we're doing the trikes thing...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-1820304177.htm?rsqid=91b65c50e12f46c7a6cc89110e87c 209

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/899163347.jpg

A glorious engineering marvel of the modern age!

[pritch]

At least that Yamaha would make a half decent farm tool - but that???

[F5 Dave]

So where do you park something like that? At least to hide your shame. Take up more space than a Dodge Charger.

[AllanB]

It's a Barney trike!

If I was re-covering the seats to sell it I would have done them black ...... each to their own but now it's a girls trike. Or possible it will be seen in a Queen Street parade with men wearing leather chaps (that's all they are wearing).

I did scoff at the phrase 'feels like a bike to ride'. NO, well may it corners like a HD ......

[HenryDorsetCase]

Well, if we're doing the trikes thing...

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/899163347.jpg

A glorious engineering marvel of the modern age!

I love that colour. Purple is my favourite colour

[AllanB]

I love that colour. Purple is my favourite colour

But the seats as well ...........:facepalm:

[F5 Dave]

Maybe he's a lesbian trapped in a gay man's body :blink:

I don't think black seats would preclude you friends wearing arseless chaps and biker caps.

[HenryDorsetCase]

But the seats as well ...........:facepalm:

Especially the seats!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Maybe he's a lesbian trapped in a gay man's body :blink:
.

I don't even... yeah, it probably is true.

[AllanB]

Maybe he's a lesbian trapped in a gay man's body :blink:

I don't think black seats would preclude you friends wearing arseless chaps and biker caps.

Possibly that is why they are purple - black seats seriously heat up in the sun and if you are wearing arseless chaps, well, that's dinner cooked :sick:

[AllanB]

Especially the seats!

You sir are a confusing man. Such taste with the Triumph and old CB, then you dig purple seats ........

I'm a big fan of metal flake paint, so the purple body is fine (needs some contrasting panels IMO) but the seats ......

[pritch]

I love that colour. Purple is my favourite colour

I'd have thought that was mauve, then again I'm not confident in offering an opinion on colour. I did read that if you even know what colour chartreuse is you're gay. I'm no interior decorator. Beige rulz.

Was at a Billy Connolly show and he exhorted the audience not to be beige people. My reaction?
"Beige and proud!"

[babysteps]

Does it play Prince songs on start up? :crazy:

[F5 Dave]

That Emoji looks like you would look having spent much time on that with your new friends.

[YellowDog]

Not such a bad colour really:

http://ego01.manworldmediacdn.com/data/images/egotastic-all-stars/133/055/092/969/490/450/mtmzmduznjaxodewndkymdm1-146dec89-9b2007d4.jpg

[F5 Dave]

Um, I'm colour blind but, there are some boobies

[Fresh Oats]

I don't get trikes. What is the appeal? At least scooters I 'get', even if I think they're stupid. But trikes... like why? why are they a thing?

[jellywrestler]

I don't get trikes. What is the appeal? At least scooters I 'get', even if I think they're stupid. But trikes... like why? why are they a thing?

to take the barby and 15 x 15 tent to a rally

[F5 Dave]

But where do you fit the motorcycles? Maybe some sort of bus would be in order.:yes:

[pritch]

At least scooters I 'get', even if I think they're stupid.

Nothing beats a moped for a quick trip to town. Sometimes wish I still had one.


Exhaust wrap: that shit looks ugly as Hell. Apparently one argument is that it increases power. I'd need convincing as most of the exhaust systems wearing that crap have been mutilated so as to be likely producing less ponies than standard.

This did however cause me to wonder if, with it being so effective, the MotoGP bikes used exhaust wrap. Sadly the factories are not normally so forthcoming as to let us see such intimate photographs of their machinery.

This photo from Moto2, Catalunya, 2014. "To limit the temperature and ensure performance, some Moto2 teams applied a ceramic coating on the exhaust manifold."

Sure looks a lot neater than fucking exhaust wrap.

[F5 Dave]

HPC coating has been around for 20 years at least. In black you can hardly tell.

It's not the go for 2 strokes though.

[jellywrestler]

It's not the go for 2 strokes though.

nah, that's where scrap dealers come into use.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Exhaust wrap: that shit looks ugly as Hell. Apparently one argument is that it increases power.


I put some round the rear cylinder pipes of the VFR where they run very close to the rear shock. Not for the pipes but to try and keep heat away from the shock.

[AllanB]

I put some round the rear cylinder pipes of the VFR where they run very close to the rear shock. Not for the pipes but to try and keep heat away from the shock.


Ah yes the V twin thing. Nice hot rear header next to a performance item you don't want to overheat. Actually most high pipe systems have the same issue.

[Voltaire]

I don't get trikes. What is the appeal? At least scooters I 'get', even if I think they're stupid. But trikes... like why? why are they a thing?

I get trikes like with VW engines and Italian scooters but liquid cooled engines..... whats all that about?:lol:

[YellowDog]

Um, I'm colour blind but, there are some boobies


Has anyone told you the colour of the bikes you own? :eek5:

[AllanB]

The VW trikes are a result of a really simple solution to making a trike - the engine and rear running gear is all set up to bolt into a inexpensive frame/body - bolt on a MC front end and done.

The coolest one I have seen had the VW engine mid mounted - somewhere I have old printed photo (pre digital) from Ruapuna when I was probably 17 or so.

Here is a google image of the concept - the NZ one I remember was low and purposeful looking. I must search what they use diff wise to reverse the engine.

Update - apparently all you do is flip the crown wheel.

Actually I'd like one. If it was designed right.

[Ocean1]

The VW trikes are a result of a really simple solution to making a trike - the engine and rear running gear is all set up to bolt into a inexpensive frame/body - bolt on a MC front end and done.

The coolest one I have seen had the VW engine mid mounted - somewhere I have old printed photo (pre digital) from Ruapuna when I was probably 17 or so.

Here is a google image of the concept - the NZ one I remember was low and purposeful looking. I must search what they use diff wise to reverse the engine.

Update - apparently all you do is flip the crown wheel.

Actually I'd like one. If it was designed right.

You can use a kombi transaxle, which had a pair of reduction gears built into the hub, you just replace the complete axle assembly with std bug items.

Gear linkages could be challenging, they felt pretty vague standard without any extra linkages to get around the engine.

[husaberg]

The VW trikes are a result of a really simple solution to making a trike - the engine and rear running gear is all set up to bolt into a inexpensive frame/body - bolt on a MC front end and done.

The coolest one I have seen had the VW engine mid mounted - somewhere I have old printed photo (pre digital) from Ruapuna when I was probably 17 or so.

Here is a google image of the concept - the NZ one I remember was low and purposeful looking. I must search what they use diff wise to reverse the engine.

Update - apparently all you do is flip the crown wheel.

Actually I'd like one. If it was designed right.
AFASK they just flip the transaxel upside down.
or just use a Subaru transaxel for a decent gearbox
The casing classic cars had a Porsche 4 made into a race car mid engined
https://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/11/d32b795bf6593e8c4ce9368ed5e80cec.jpg
https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/hsx/2011/06/Bathtub-Rising/3699821.html#PhotoSwipe1546156288381

[F5 Dave]

Has anyone told you the colour of the bikes you own? :eek5:

I'm pretty sure that they are all Velvet Ochre .
Except the 500 which has a chrome tank. Pretty sure thats orange.

[Voltaire]

You can use a kombi transaxle, which had a pair of reduction gears built into the hub, you just replace the complete axle assembly with std bug items.

Gear linkages could be challenging, they felt pretty vague standard without any extra linkages to get around the engine.

Taking the diff out and putting it in the other side with the correct shimming is pretty easy.

Vagueness is usually down to wear in the rubber couplings and bushes.

Reduction hubs were fine on Kubelwagens and for getting cheap lower gearing and height but other than that.....and 8 extra bearings.

I don't know why anyone would use a swing axle box when the IRS full independent is so much better, saying that I can't see the point in

spending all that money on a trike in the first place.:sick:

Anyhow back to the shed to do some work on my rather tired but well travelled 71'Westy. Anyone shipped a car to the US for a roadtrip?

[Voltaire]

AFASK they just flip the transaxel upside down.
or just use a Subaru transaxel for a decent gearbox
The casing classic cars had a Porsche 4 made into a race car mid engined


Never thought of that back in the day, probably due to wanting to the starter motor at the top and the ease of reversing the crown wheel and pinion.:laugh:

Clearly a lot of VW fake news around like " you only need to undo 4 bolts to take the engine out" and " they roll over around corners"... both of which have some facts but not a complete story.

[F5 Dave]

AFASK they just flip the transexual upside down.
. . . ]

Another for you odd quote list:whistle:

[husaberg]

Never thought of that back in the day, probably due to wanting to the starter motor at the top and the ease of reversing the crown wheel and pinion.:laugh:

Clearly a lot of VW fake news around like " you only need to undo 4 bolts to take the engine out" and " they roll over around corners"... both of which have some facts but not a complete story.

Plenty of people have done it. its not fake news its simple geometry. its a way not be the best way.
the starter motor and all the other positions are irrelevant, and fixable
AS i also suggested the Subaru transaxel is a better option there are plenty of bell housing around. Dellow in Aus used to be thego to.

[Voltaire]

FOMO?

Be quick this has met reserve at $4500 only needs compliance and your away.

No needless fancy valve gear, silly clutches or rubber bands, just good honest Japanese engineering :msn-wink:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1883962974

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/936656994.jpg

[OddDuck]

100 watchers... no wof or rego... $4.5 K... a dinky 125... people are weird.

[AllanB]

100 watchers... no wof or rego... $4.5 K... a dinky 125... people are weird.

It's getting collectible. Like just about any 70's Honda.

I reckon it could hit 5k. In a decade it could be double that if the restro is completed.

[YellowDog]

It's getting collectible. Like just about any 70's Honda.

I reckon it could hit 5k. In a decade it could be double that if the restro is completed.

Honestly, I really do fail to get my head around why someone would spend so much on such an insignificant bike :no:

[sidecar bob]

100 watchers... no wof or rego... $4.5 K... a dinky 125... people are weird.

I did my licence test on one of them, so a fairly significant bike in my life & I wouldn't be in it past a grand.

[AllanB]

Honestly, I really do fail to get my head around why someone would spend so much on such an insignificant bike :no:

I'd not put down that coin but watch it hit $4500.

There will be a number of bidders who had one when they were teenagers all those years ago who would like one back in their stable. Then the Honda collectors wanting to add to the fleet, or start a fleet for that matter.

Retro is in, and Honda's at top of the list for obvious reasons - reliable, parts are available and the starting money is not silly compared to say a Norton Commando or the 'good' year Bonnies.

I see on TM there are two unrestored BSA Bantams going for about $5k for the pair.

[F5 Dave]

I posted those Bantams on this thread about a year ago and they ain't going anywhere.

[AllanB]

I posted those Bantams on this thread about a year ago and they ain't going anywhere.

People to chicken to buy them :lol:

[malcy25]

People to chicken to buy them :lol:
That is such a bad Dad joke!

[AllanB]

That is such a bad Dad joke!


No so bad that I have egg on my face .....

[tanken2]

The VW trikes are a result of a really simple solution to making a trike - the engine and rear running gear is all set up to bolt into a inexpensive frame/body - bolt on a MC front end and done.

The coolest one I have seen had the VW engine mid mounted - somewhere I have old printed photo (pre digital) from Ruapuna when I was probably 17 or so.

Here is a google image of the concept - the NZ one I remember was low and purposeful looking. I must search what they use diff wise to reverse the engine.

Update - apparently all you do is flip the crown wheel.

Actually I'd like one. If it was designed right.

what about putting diff in upside down ?

[AllanB]

what about putting diff in upside down ?

Can't be that easy! Hmm I'd need to check but I suspect the mounting holes/bolts would not align flipping it 180.

[F5 Dave]

FIRE. These things need Fire:devil2:

[Voltaire]

I'd not put down that coin but watch it hit $4500.

There will be a number of bidders who had one when they were teenagers all those years ago who would like one back in their stable. Then the Honda collectors wanting to add to the fleet, or start a fleet for that matter.

Retro is in, and Honda's at top of the list for obvious reasons - reliable, parts are available and the starting money is not silly compared to say a Norton Commando or the 'good' year Bonnies.

I see on TM there are two unrestored BSA Bantams going for about $5k for the pair.

$5525.00....what price do you put on reliving youth. Should come with a crate of DB Export, some Flying Nun mixed tapes and snifters.

[YellowDog]

$5525.00....what price do you put on reliving youth. Should come with a crate of DB Export, some Flying Nun mixed tapes and snifters.


I've gone back to early bikes I have owned and, whilst they seemed pretty outstanding in those days, it's all relative to what you are now used to.

Though the one thing I'd say about that Honda, is that always was a pretty light and nimble model. Most likely still good fun :clap:

Congrats to both the buyer and to the seller too.

[Black Knight]

This lives in my lounge now,every late 60's teenagers wet dream-am thinking of selling,any clues on $ value.

[Fresh Oats]

People to chicken to buy them :lol:

Wow, that pun is so fowl.

[tanken2]

Wow, that pun is so fowl.

don't egg him on please

[husaberg]

don't egg him on please

Bantams are for lightweights.

[george formby]

Bantams are for lightweights.

Would they be any good for a vintage scramble?

[pritch]

Would they be any good for a vintage scramble?

Eggzactly.

[husaberg]

What kind of cock would want a Bantam.

[george formby]

Someone needs to have a crack at getting this conversation laid to rest.





:shutup:

[husaberg]

Bantams are only for eccentrics

[onearmedbandit]

There will be a number of bidders who had one when they were teenagers all those years ago who would like one back in their stable. Then the Honda collectors wanting to add to the fleet, or start a fleet for that matter.



Some years back I read the same argument regarding the prices Phase III GTHO's etc were hitting. At that stage one had recently changed hands for AUD$750,000. Guys who had the poster on the wall as a kid or 'dad had one but sold it' who were now very financially successful and paying obscene amounts to get their hands on them. One sold in OZ for a millllliiion dollars last year.

https://www.finder.com.au/ford-gtho-sells-for-1-million

[george formby]

I would pay well over the odds for a TDR...

Same reason as above.

[F5 Dave]

They are already over the odds and certainly not worth it. Well at least unless you can prove it.


PM me when you have one and I'll be up the next day to test ride it for you and provide my endorsement or condescending review.

I'd prefer TZR wheels and 090s fitted. JL Pipes jetted to suit, Stan Stephen's tune and an ignitech, maybe PWKs.

Just sayin.

[george formby]

They are already over the odds and certainly not worth it. Well at least unless you can prove it.


PM me when you have one and I'll be up the next day to test ride it for you and provide my endorsement or condescending review.

I'd prefer TZR wheels and 090s fitted. JL Pipes jetted to suit, Stan Stephen's tune and an ignitech, maybe PWKs.

Just sayin.

I'm too big for a TZR.....:weep:

[F5 Dave]

I'd love to ride one. Bit of an oddity in the day and never knew anyone with one.

If you can't stretch to the TZR wheels, wider laced rims in Gold will do.

And a bigbore RZ350 engine.

[F5 Dave]

Well this looks as good as a dose of the pox.

There's an $800 one a little further on, both need work to finish.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1894729217.htm?rsqid=e8d0df31ace748fd88dbc8da41645 1b3


Or even compared with this pretty decent one.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1893370045.htm?rsqid=ccf82c99312e4e7cbdcd6c9c93dce d6f

[F5 Dave]

Here's a $300 bike. I spent $300 trying all the usual things but it still looked shite, didn't run properly without the airbox, now I just want out with all my money.

I was quite proud of the mirror position looking for drones.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1892924017.htm?rsqid=0537148be62b415b88710f97007ce 6d7

[roogazza]

Bantams are only for eccentrics

haha Husa, that applies to everyone who love and buy old shit doesn't it.
We have our share on here ?? !!!!! :laugh:

I might be nearly 70, but appreciate all the new tech modern bikes provide.
If I have a ride these days on old stuff, I say, ok ! But now..... where's MY bike!
( hey, thats 12 years old now). :confused:

[OddDuck]

OK, the seller is brutally realistic, but check this horror show out:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1893852109.htm?rsqid=c4e00294eba945baa0f2b602c098e d03

it's not even a hipster racer.

[AllanB]

Here's a $300 bike. I spent $300 trying all the usual things but it still looked shite, didn't run properly without the airbox, now I just want out with all my money.

I was quite proud of the mirror position looking for drones.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1892924017.htm?rsqid=0537148be62b415b88710f97007ce 6d7

Drones are dangerous - good to keep a eye out for them while riding. I like one on the road one in the sky personally - or two on the sky and add some bar end mirrors for the road. Yeah - that's a plan.

I'm looking at the red/brown seat - it's well made, fits beautifully around the rear frame but then stops short by the tank - I'm now assuming it may not be a GN tank? What's with the left fork leg missing a cap - make it lighter I suppose.

[Fresh Oats]

haha Husa, that applies to everyone who love and buy old shit doesn't it.
We have our share on here ?? !!!!! :laugh:

I might be nearly 70, but appreciate all the new tech modern bikes provide.
If I have a ride these days on old stuff, I say, ok ! But now..... where's MY bike!
( hey, thats 12 years old now). :confused:

I don't think those bantams are selling because they're the wrong kind of old. They're too old.
They're the sorts of bikes old people would buy because they want to restore it (not chop it up and turn it into a bobber or something) and collect them.

Yobbo's like me want 70's/80's Japanese bikes (like my cx) that we can chop up and make it look somewhat cafe racer-ish but with a modern take.
Pity there seems to be a lot of people who are so bad at it, aka the last couple of listings posted.

[tanken2]

that H2 at 30,000 , had long history with them , loved them to bits , but shit not paying that when you can pick up a top end Ducati and even a Senna for a bit more. They were great back then, but 75 hp and iffy handling would wear off compared with bangs for bucks now.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I don't think those bantams are selling because they're the wrong kind of old. They're too old.
They're the sorts of bikes old people would buy because they want to restore it (not chop it up and turn it into a bobber or something) and collect them.

Yobbo's like me want 70's/80's Japanese bikes (like my cx) that we can chop up and make it look somewhat cafe racer-ish but with a modern take.
Pity there seems to be a lot of people who are so bad at it, aka the last couple of listings posted.

A mate of mine younger than me (40 or so) has a BSA Bantam he restored. It was his Dads though so there is that.

[HenryDorsetCase]

that H2 at 30,000 , had long history with them , loved them to bits , but shit not paying that when you can pick up a top end Ducati and even a Senna for a bit more. They were great back then, but 75 hp and iffy handling would wear off compared with bangs for bucks now.

That bike has been on tardme at an outlandish price (It started at $20k) for what, three years? MOre?

[tanken2]

A mate of mine younger than me (40 or so) has a BSA Bantam he restored. It was his Dads though so there is that.

ha ha first bike I ever rode hard tail 125cc Bantam , shit now look where its got me. must have been chicken pox.

[husaberg]

haha Husa, that applies to everyone who love and buy old shit doesn't it.
We have our share on here ?? !!!!! :laugh:

I might be nearly 70, but appreciate all the new tech modern bikes provide.
If I have a ride these days on old stuff, I say, ok ! But now..... where's MY bike!
( hey, thats 12 years old now). :confused:

To round off my points about Bantams. They just dont fly with me.
You just know first time it gets hot the miler electrics will be fried.
If lucas was the prince of darkness miller was punching above its weight in a whole new class.
I like my ignition hot but not my whole battery sunny side up.
Ps i have stuff right back to 1954 rright up to my Husaberg chock chaser

[F5 Dave]

OK, the seller is brutally realistic, but check this horror show out:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1893852109.htm?rsqid=c4e00294eba945baa0f2b602c098e d03

it's not even a hipster racer.

which has been modified into a cafe racer or lane splitter whatever you want to call it

Looks more like a Wayside Pusher than a Lane Splitter.

[pritch]

OK, the seller is brutally realistic, but check this horror show out:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1893852109.htm?rsqid=c4e00294eba945baa0f2b602c098e d03

it's not even a hipster racer.

He calls it a lane splitter. First time I've seen that expression used. The mirrors on my bike are "Lanesplitter" though.

[F5 Dave]

That bike has been on tardme at an outlandish price (It started at $20k) for what, three years? MOre?
Nah nah nah. Mate that as I've said before was accidentally hard coded into the original Tardme software. Think it's still there for testing purposes. Seems to be able to change the price. It was 15 then 17. 18. 20. Now 30.

[AllanB]

Nah nah nah. Mate that as I've said before was accidentally hard coded into the original Tardme software. Think it's still there for testing purposes. Seems to be able to change the price. It was 15 then 17. 18. 20. Now 30.


That and the $50,000 XR500 that keeps reappearing........

[YellowDog]

That and the $50,000 XR500 that keeps reappearing........

STOP PRESS: He now only wants $30,000 - A true bargain :no:

[HenryDorsetCase]

You want trikes? THIS IS THE KING OF ALL TRIKES!!!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1893686383&rsqid=54ce696404a14a0e8285a139b78f651e

I like it!

[AllanB]

I have to say that is a beautifully well made kit. The trike it self is significantly better that HD's stock version.

Pretty limited market though - we had some stats up on KB the other day maybe 40 riders killed last year? If that? A percentage of them will be HD die-hards (see what I did there), others would not go near a Hog.

What you need to do is take out the coffin sliders, make the trailer watertight with a opening roof, fill it with water and couple of bikini clad lasses and charge punters for 'swim' time.

You would also need rules like taxis have if your chunder in their cab - but with this set-up it would be something else floating around in the water that would be of concern.

[jasonu]

OK, the seller is brutally realistic, but check this horror show out:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1893852109.htm?rsqid=c4e00294eba945baa0f2b602c098e d03

it's not even a hipster racer.

he forgot to fit the fucking seat.

[Voltaire]

I don't think those bantams are selling because they're the wrong kind of old. They're too old.
They're the sorts of bikes old people would buy because they want to restore it (not chop it up and turn it into a bobber or something) and collect them.

Yobbo's like me want 70's/80's Japanese bikes (like my cx) that we can chop up and make it look somewhat cafe racer-ish but with a modern take.
Pity there seems to be a lot of people who are so bad at it, aka the last couple of listings posted.

One of the best bikes I have bought and sold from a percentage profit point of view.

Older chap next to me as swap meet made me take off it his hands for $150 ( Its was all in bits).

Took it home, loosely reasembled it for photo shoot, listed on TM and it went mad....sold for over $300

I've gone off projects as the time/money pendulum is swinging the other way now.:(

[roogazza]

that H2 at 30,000 , had long history with them , loved them to bits , but shit not paying that when you can pick up a top end Ducati and even a Senna for a bit more. They were great back then, but 75 hp and iffy handling would wear off compared with bangs for bucks now.

Funny story, I couldn't sell my H2 in about 74' But I traded it on a SL125 in Wgton at a Honda Dealer.The Sales Manager came back after xmas to find an H2 in the shop (not impressed) !!
He said to the salesperson,did you see Gracefeild the other weekend ??????
No , was the answer.
Well thats Gazza's bike and it was a winner there !!!!!!! lol:laugh::bleh::shifty::msn-wink:

Race bikes had a bad rep in those days Thrashed etc etc ,which was bullshit cos they're often well sorted.
It was a bloody good bike. (think I got $1300 for it ? with cash my way?).
Only way to get out of it.
I was joining the Police and needed to move on.340184

[Grumph]

Snap !! I traded my Mach 3 in on an AC50 at Tommy's in ChCh. I needed a commuter that got better than 8 mpg....

And yes, it was another race bike....

[AllanB]

Snap !! I traded my Mach 3 in on an AC50 at Tommy's in ChCh. I needed a commuter that got better than 8 mpg....

And yes, it was another race bike....

Surely Tommy's took the Mach III and gave you some cash, then you rode away on a new AC50.

[Grumph]

Surely Tommy's took the Mach III and gave you some cash, then you rode away on a new AC50.

It'd been on HP for under a year. So, yes, I did get a little cash in hand. Not a lot....Tommy always was a tight fisted trader.

[tanken2]

Surely Tommy's took the Mach III and gave you some cash, then you rode away on a new AC50.

traded first Mach 4 at Len Perrys for CB750, traded 2nd one at Colemans for KZ900 , bought and sold Mach 3 Privately , none set foot on a racetrack.

[YellowDog]

One of the best bikes I have bought and sold from a percentage profit point of view.

Older chap next to me as swap meet made me take off it his hands for $150 ( Its was all in bits).

Took it home, loosely reasembled it for photo shoot, listed on TM and it went mad....sold for over $300

I've gone off projects as the time/money pendulum is swinging the other way now.:(

I bought a Suzuki 1999 XF650 (Freewind) for $3,300 in 2004 and sold it for $5,500 in 2007.

I knew I'd bought her cheaply, but that was far more than I was expecting to get from my Trademe listing, with $2,500 reserve.

Bike was Selling at $2,505, with just 2 minutes to go. Then at $3,001.89, with three seconds to go, and I went and got a beer out to celebrate.

And then the fun started, but I missed it all, as by then, I was watching the day's footy replays/highlights :eek5:

[AllanB]

I Trademe searched 'Chopper' last night. A surprising number of big-arse USA choppers up for sale and some big budgets on some of them.

Also a bagger style ride with a 30 inch front wheel.

I wonder how that would handle - be different for sure. Plus thinking of the massive wheel with not significant brake upgrade the stopping power would be significantly reduced.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I Trademe searched 'Chopper' last night. A surprising number of big-arse USA choppers up for sale and some big budgets on some of them.

Also a bagger style ride with a 30 inch front wheel.

I wonder how that would handle - be different for sure. Plus thinking of the massive wheel with not significant brake upgrade the stopping power would be significantly reduced.

Surely the limiting factor is tyre contact patch size area.?

[AllanB]

Surely the limiting factor is tyre contact patch size area.?


The bigger the wheel the more it takes to stop it once it's rolling. ANd that 30 incher had a skinny tyre as well.

[F5 Dave]

And no doubt a shit tonne of weight attached behind via long flexible forks pushing it along.

[AllanB]

Here it is. Must be a wide front tyre looking at the rim width, just looks skinny due to the diameter.

I really want to ride it and see how it feels. I'd think changing from left to right would be a slow affair.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1893023930.htm?rsqid=0711a0fad72d4a4db5cdf98e83a06 dd7

[tanken2]

Here it is. Must be a wide front tyre looking at the rim width, just looks skinny due to the diameter.

I really want to ride it and see how it feels. I'd think changing from left to right would be a slow affair.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1893023930.htm?rsqid=0711a0fad72d4a4db5cdf98e83a06 dd7

not my cup of anything , but nice build if that's what your into.

[HenryDorsetCase]

These are my two favourites on tardme at present. The XLS is nicely done but hardtail and 4 speed iron head sportster. It would feel fast, and would sound fast, without actually being fast. Cool as fuck though. Probably too cool for middle age tiny fat guy to pull off.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1898639751.htm?rsqid=1fdf9dd1f8e34719995fcf1006187 bdd


The other one is this Sportster 72. Nowhere near as cool (and why is that girl perched on it with the Indian headdress ?) but a modern powertrain, EFI, and at least some rear suspension. Its got the look, too.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1889172421.htm?rsqid=1fdf9dd1f8e34719995fcf1006187 bdd

The 72 has been for sale for a while - if $11k bought it I might be in - except my CB750 is in bits again.

And I guess too that if I want something heavy, slow, with marginal brakes and that vibrates I have the CB750 for that....

[Drew]

These are my two favourites on tardme at present. The XLS is nicely done but hardtail and 4 speed iron head sportster. It would feel fast, and would sound fast, without actually being fast. Cool as fuck though. Probably too cool for middle age tiny fat guy to pull off.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1898639751.htm?rsqid=1fdf9dd1f8e34719995fcf1006187 bdd


The other one is this Sportster 72. Nowhere near as cool (and why is that girl perched on it with the Indian headdress ?) but a modern powertrain, EFI, and at least some rear suspension. Its got the look, too.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1889172421.htm?rsqid=1fdf9dd1f8e34719995fcf1006187 bdd

The 72 has been for sale for a while - if $11k bought it I might be in - except my CB750 is in bits again.

And I guess too that if I want something heavy, slow, with marginal brakes and that vibrates I have the CB750 for that....
The hard tail is fucken awesome. The repowered 72 is just junk.

[AllanB]

So surfing the web looking at Baggers with silly large front wheels. This is true America - someone does a 21 or 23 inch wheel on a show bike so everyone must do it larger. And you end up with a front tyre measuring 140/40/30!

Anyway - found this beauty of engineering for your pleasure. Even with those huge wheels her bum still looks ....

[Drew]

The hard tail is fucken awesome. The repowered 72 is just junk.

Ah. The model is a '72'. I misunderstood.

[AllanB]

Ah. The model is a '72'. I misunderstood.

Yeah it's one they bought out a few years back with styling harking back to 1972. Thankfully they used current running gear as you are correct - the 70's was a bad time for HD until the Alloy EVO engine arrived in what early/mid 80's? I remember the magazines being all excited about a alloy HD engine when everyone else had been using them for ...... jeepers decades?

They really should have gone bankrupt in the AMF days.

Side note I read about 115th anniversary bikes coming out this year. Fucks sake, another non event year being celebrated, the 100th was and should have been big, with a genuine reason for a collector to fork out for a anniversary bike, but now the fuckers run them out evey following 5 years.

[Banditbandit]

The other one is this Sportster 72. Nowhere near as cool (and why is that girl perched on it with the Indian headdress ?) but a modern powertrain, EFI, and at least some rear suspension. Its got the look, too.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-1889172421.htm?rsqid=1fdf9dd1f8e34719995fcf1006187 bdd

The 72 has been for sale for a while - if $11k bought it I might be in - except my CB750 is in bits again.

And I guess too that if I want something heavy, slow, with marginal brakes and that vibrates I have the CB750 for that....


I rode a demonstrator '72 ... in 1972 it would have been my dream bike .. so I took it out for a ride ..

It was a piece of shit ... a high speed industrial vibrator ... could not take a corner at 100 klicks without bouncing all over the road .. and after 20 minutes I could feel the bones in my elbows banging together ...

Looks the part tho' ...

[HenryDorsetCase]

I rode a demonstrator '72 ... in 1972 it would have been my dream bike .. so I took it out for a ride ..

It was a piece of shit ... a high speed industrial vibrator ... could not take a corner at 100 klicks without bouncing all over the road .. and after 20 minutes I could feel the bones in my elbows banging together ...

Looks the part tho' ...

You and I must be about the same age. In my early teens I spent most of maths class drawing choppers in the back of my maths book. The paper was a grid so it was easier. They all looked like the "72"

[F5 Dave]

I couldn't decide a colour and changed my mind, then I thought maybe I'd paint some of the engine, then



https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1898763748.htm?rsqid=60e2070ece04440185d233993db0e e95


But I want another bike so I need this much so if. . .

[jellywrestler]

Side note I read about 115th anniversary bikes coming out this year. Fucks sake, another non event year being celebrated, the 100th was and should have been big, with a genuine reason for a collector to fork out for a anniversary bike, but now the fuckers run them out evey following 5 years.

like ducati limited editions, when i had my 851 i recall half of that range were 'limited editions SP models' and the other half run of the mill. Triumph used to have royal wedding models, but not he modern company, mind you i'd buy anything with a seat knitted out of meghan markles pubic hair if it did come out.

[WALRUS]

I couldn't decide a colour and changed my mind, then I thought maybe I'd paint some of the engine, then



https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1898763748.htm?rsqid=60e2070ece04440185d233993db0e e95


But I want another bike so I need this much so if. . .

Needs more exhaust wrap

[Fresh Oats]

I couldn't decide a colour and changed my mind, then I thought maybe I'd paint some of the engine, then



https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1898763748.htm?rsqid=60e2070ece04440185d233993db0e e95


But I want another bike so I need this much so if. . .

Colour scheme is beyond terrible. Improper fitted seat. Grips do not match anything on the bike and look out of place. Stock rear mudguard defeats the purpose of making a 'cafe racer'. And the creme-de-la-creme and my biggest pet-pev when people are trying to make cafes is the god damn speedo and tacho are stock and look big bulky and ugly.

4 grand. This guys on some serious crack cocaine. Stay off the crack kids.

[WALRUS]

This poor, poor bike started life as a Suzuki TLS.. These are desirable and collectable now (over here at least)..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1794445546.htm?rsqid=3ab47357183a41adad9ab361e79a3 041

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/883599340.jpg

Poor thing!

[Banditbandit]

I couldn't decide a colour and changed my mind, then I thought maybe I'd paint some of the engine, then



https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1898763748.htm?rsqid=60e2070ece04440185d233993db0e e95


But I want another bike so I need this much so if. . .


Umm .. it's modified - I don't believe any modifications are allowed to get LAMS approval ..

And road lice remain road lice .

[pritch]

Triumph used to have royal wedding models, but not he modern company, mind you i'd buy anything with a seat knitted out of meghan markles pubic hair if it did come out.

And a Queen’s Silver Jubilee model etc. Hinkley still do special editions, usually to celebrate the anniversary of a model. I’ve got one but I wouldn’t buy another, they cost up to several thousand more than standard when new, but when it’s time to trade it in, it’s just a standard model.

[jellywrestler]

This poor, poor bike started life as a Suzuki TLS.. These are desirable and collectable now (over here at least)..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1794445546.htm?rsqid=3ab47357183a41adad9ab361e79a3 041

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/883599340.jpg

Poor thing!

it's a streetfighter, a term used to descibe a bike that was smashed all over the road and the owner was too tight to bu all the parts to repair it.

[F5 Dave]

Just noticed the seat, erm, I'll say unit, but jeez dude that is rude.

[AllanB]

And a Queen’s Silver Jubilee model etc. Hinkley still do special editions, usually to celebrate the anniversary of a model. I’ve got one but I wouldn’t buy another, they cost up to several thousand more than standard when new, but when it’s time to trade it in, it’s just a standard model.

Like that McQueen model. Slap a badge on, olive paint ..........

[pritch]

Like that McQueen model. Slap a badge on, olive paint ..........

I had mercifully forgotten that. :whistle:

[jellywrestler]

Like that McQueen model. Slap a badge on, olive paint ..........

and the senna dukes he wasn't even into bikes, at least a michael schumaker wheelchair would have more relevance

[Voltaire]

Like that McQueen model. Slap a badge on, olive paint ..........

I love those WW2 German Bikes ( clearly Triumph liberated the swinging arm tele fork alternator as reparations)

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/steve-mcqueen-us-actor-wearing-a-german-military-uniform-sitting-a-picture-id121654522

[WALRUS]

Yes, yes I know it's Wikipedia and it's probably bollocks written by some rando' Ducatista but I have heard similar things before

https://i.ibb.co/wz728pv/Capture.png

It happened when Ducati was owned by Cagiva and the Castiglioni family. It would also explain my MV Augusta built 300ish F4 1000 Senna's

[pritch]

[QUOTE=Voltaire;1131121613]I love those WW2 German Bikes ( clearly Triumph liberated the swinging arm tele fork alternator as reparations)

Love that front guard 1959 to 196?. Gotta admit though, I didn't notice that when I was watching the movie...

[Voltaire]

[QUOTE=Voltaire;1131121613]I love those WW2 German Bikes ( clearly Triumph liberated the swinging arm tele fork alternator as reparations)

Love that front guard 1959 to 196?. Gotta admit though, I didn't notice that when I was watching the movie...

Putting my Triumph anorak on, head looks like a 60's one, front guard is off some tourer,pre 57 front brake and the twin down tubes are 60 onwards.

I think he was not trying to escape to Switzerland but a portal to 1954 Meriden as thats when the swinging arm came out.:confused:

Watch Steve being beaten by a VW Beetle in Bullit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZj2nJkZ81k

[AllanB]

Yes, yes I know it's Wikipedia and it's probably bollocks written by some rando' Ducatista but I have heard similar things before

https://i.ibb.co/wz728pv/Capture.png

It happened when Ducati was owned by Cagiva and the Castiglioni family. It would also explain my MV Augusta built 300ish F4 1000 Senna's


It's because Ducatis are so sexy that people want their name on them.
Maybe I could arrange a special limited edition NZ version of the Scrambler - the Jacinda model. It will be red of course and have a really large gleaming headlight. It will also claim to be able to 'self fix' any issues it has during ownership - after a working group has assessed it for six months.

[husaberg]

I love those WW2 German Bikes ( clearly Triumph liberated the swinging arm tele fork alternator as reparations)


TBF there was a German Triumph motorbike company
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Triumph_Boss.jpg/1280px-Triumph_Boss.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_(TWN)
plus the BSA bantam was a copy of a prewar DKW
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m_1vGu9BMgQ/TzG0eY09nQI/AAAAAAAACDs/AYQlqaOLziQ/s1600/1954_dkw_rt_125-2h.jpg

From memory all the guards spoke english in the movie as well

[Yokomama]

That didn’t look like a terrible deal, really. Wtf is that seat though.

Edit: re the white suzi 450

[sidecar bob]

I would seriously like to unsee this.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1907122163.htm?rsqid=95a3f3eddb6f43498605971b06d24 1e8

[jellywrestler]

I would seriously like to unsee this.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1907122163.htm?rsqid=95a3f3eddb6f43498605971b06d24 1e8

yip, those canisters on the tailpeice are for their medication

[Dadpole]

Although we can not claim to being the biggest and brightest motorcycle shop in New Zealand...

I believe the bit about not being the brightest. Is a bike capable of self-harming? We need an intervention.

[F5 Dave]

TBF there was German Triumph motorbike company as well

We'll they should have bloody well won the war or Shut The Fuck up.

[F5 Dave]

I would seriously like to unsee this.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1907122163.htm?rsqid=95a3f3eddb6f43498605971b06d24 1e8

About a year ago. No one likes it. P. O. S.

[pzkpfw]

I would seriously like to unsee this.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1907122163.htm?rsqid=95a3f3eddb6f43498605971b06d24 1e8

Just broke up with my girlfriend, and seeing that bloody hurt more.

[jellywrestler]

Just broke up with my girlfriend, and seeing that bloody hurt more.

his girlfriend is most likely to be susan boyle...

[tanken2]

TBF there was a German Triumph motorbike company
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Triumph_Boss.jpg/1280px-Triumph_Boss.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_(TWN)
plus the BSA bantam was a copy of a prewar DKW
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m_1vGu9BMgQ/TzG0eY09nQI/AAAAAAAACDs/AYQlqaOLziQ/s1600/1954_dkw_rt_125-2h.jpg

From memory all the guards spoke english in the movie as well

wow there is certainly a bit of pressure in those header pipes

[tanken2]

We'll they should have bloody well won the war or Shut The Fuck up.

how is Volkswagen doing then , do they own all the British car companies yet ?

[husaberg]

We'll they should have bloody well won the war or Shut The Fuck up.

Considering we paid to rebuild them, wiped their war debt and they subsequently turned into international manufacturing powerhouses while old blightly is still paying off war debts i am not sure we did win.

[Voltaire]

Considering we paid to rebuild them, wiped their war debt and they subsequently turned into international manufacturing powerhouses while old blightly is still paying off war debts i am not sure we did win.

Is that We as in the US Marshall plan?

The Russians knocking on the door of Europe probably had nothing to do with this kind gesture, who incidentally gave the whole wall thing a

good crack.

Oh Well...The Romans had a nice little empire for a bit too.:laugh:

Waits for deluge of Wiki quotes....

[husaberg]

Is that We as in the US Marshall plan?

The Russians knocking on the door of Europe probably had nothing to do with this kind gesture, who incidentally gave the whole wall thing a

good crack.

Oh Well...The Romans had a nice little empire for a bit too.:laugh:

Waits for deluge of Wiki quotes....

Remember there as the other half of Germany and Japan

[tanken2]

I didn't know but VW owns Ducati too. but then I guess they were allies.

[pritch]

I didn't know but VW owns Ducati too. but then I guess they were allies.

Isn't it BMW who own Rover, Land Rover, Jaguar, and the Mini? Probably all owned by Kuwait and Saudi Oil money anyway, like Mercedes.

[tanken2]

and Britain gave the Indians failing royal Enfield , now a success story growing year on year . Egli builds the Vincent . Is Triumph the only British Bike manufacturer left ?

[Drew]

and Britain gave the Indians failing royal Enfield , now a success story growing year on year . Egli builds the Vincent . Is Triumph the only British Bike manufacturer left ?

No. 'Enfield' were produced in India. Enfield went bust and let the rights to the production go to settle a debt. The Indians weren't allowed to use the name, hense 'Royal Enfield'.

Jesus man, use Google.