Optimistic sellers

[pritch]

I seriously doubt that. Someone has made a good enough offer probably. Pity it's 'only' a 250. It does need rescue, but it won't be cheap.

It seems like it's too much to ask for sellers to give their bike a polish, but he didn't even hose that off before he took his pics.

[Kickaha]

wheels unique to the RD range...

Some of the XJ range had the same style wheels

[onearmedbandit]

I seriously doubt that. Someone has made a good enough offer probably. Pity it's 'only' a 250. It does need rescue, but it won't be cheap.

It was a little tongue-in-cheek

[F5 Dave]

Oh, right. My 'casim-o-meter' was in getting serviced.

[dangerous]

Some of the XJ range had the same style wheels

there was a very nice 550 on tardme only con was a 4-1 exhaust but bloody tidy

[husaberg]

Some of the XJ range had the same style wheels
As did some models of xs xv and the TR1.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Some of the XJ range had the same style wheels

Theres a tidy looking 550 on there at the mo. If it was a Kawasaki I would have probably bought it

[Grumph]

Theres a tidy looking 550 on there at the mo. If it was a Kawasaki I would have probably bought it

And suffered. In good nick, yes, they're a nice bike. But all of them should have the primary chain replaced as insurance - and the clutch cush drive will be fucked.
All fixable. But the Yamaha and Suzuki 550's have less problems.

[dangerous]

And suffered. In good nick, yes, they're a nice bike. But all of them should have the primary chain replaced as insurance - and the clutch cush drive will be fucked.
All fixable. But the Yamaha and Suzuki 550's have less problems.

shit man... Kickahas was maybe still is his most reliable bike hes got, been up the north Is with him it even made it back...

[Grumph]

shit man... Kickahas was maybe still is his most reliable bike hes got, been up the north Is with him it even made it back...

Read my post sober. I was dissing the 550 Kawasakis. Last I heard kick had about 1 3/4 Yamaha 550's.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah last time I saw him in this island he was on a Yam550.
Gosh that would be 17yrs ago.

[Kickaha]

Read my post sober. I was dissing the 550 Kawasakis. Last I heard kick had about 1 3/4 Yamaha 550's.

2 3/4 now and some XJ600 engines

I think they're the best of the 4T twin shock middleweights, probably biased as they're the first road bike I ever tried

[husaberg]

Read my post sober. I was dissing the 550 Kawasakis. Last I heard kick had about 1 3/4 Yamaha 550's.

https://www.icegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/icegif-668.gif

[dangerous]

Read my post sober. I was dissing the 550 Kawasakis

yeah true... ill give you that, but in my defence LOL... to say Kickaha has a reliable bike dont really mean SFA...

[jellywrestler]

Aside from looking like a recently fucked bum what would you do with this in NZ even at a quarter of the price? with all those waterlogged indians that sold a year ago, none have turned up as race bikes, which surprised me a bit so maybe they are not a choice at all here


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/listing/4732565809?bof=bPsnQ1MNface

[F5 Dave]

Bigger screen, a Sat nav, maybe a trailer?

I have a feeling the headlights may need a substantial upgrade to get a wof.

[HenryDorsetCase]

all those waterlogged indians that sold a year ago,

Wait, whut? what'd I miss? The only ones I remember (because they are the only ones I lust after) were an RC30 and an RC45

[Grumph]

Aside from looking like a recently fucked bum what would you do with this in NZ even at a quarter of the price? with all those waterlogged indians that sold a year ago, none have turned up as race bikes, which surprised me a bit so maybe they are not a choice at all here


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/listing/4732565809?bof=bPsnQ1MNface

Someone with loose money must have had a yen for a bagger racebike. Gawd knows why. I suspect you'd have to run it in BEARS F1.

There have been a couple of Indians turn up at BEARS club days. And I saw one having a pipe built which has already been either to Bonneville or
Lake Gardner. The speeds mentioned weren't impressive.

[jellywrestler]

Wait, whut? what'd I miss? The only ones I remember (because they are the only ones I lust after) were an RC30 and an RC45

nope, cyclespot had at least a dozen new or near new indians along with maybe 80 yamahas etc etc
if i had one of the big bikes it was almost worth buying one just as spares, although a few went for silly money
lots of ducatis too

[Laava]

Aside from looking like a recently fucked bum what would you do with this in NZ even at a quarter of the price? with all those waterlogged indians that sold a year ago, none have turned up as race bikes, which surprised me a bit so maybe they are not a choice at all here


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/listing/4732565809?bof=bPsnQ1MNface
There is very little resemblance tho between this and something you could buy from Indian. It was sitting in Hayes Hammer Hardware early this year, good conversation piece, nicely put together, but at that price? Going to remain a conversation piece…unless someone wants to kick off a special race series in NZ which tbh is kinda like the special olympics…

[jellywrestler]

one motorcycle and four cars sold, thinking a few of the owners are going to be tad annoyed with Webbs auctions over promising prices....
there's a lot of cost in transporting these things to and from an auction, and fees up front for advertising etc.

I think their last bike only auction saw maybe two bikes sold, one at the fall of the hammer and one leter on


https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/auctions/catalog/id/731

[dangerous]

well... prices are a wee fucked, not a lot of money around at the mo... those that paid big a few years ago will regret it...love the 77 AM tho

[HenryDorsetCase]

There is very little resemblance tho between this and something you could buy from Indian. It was sitting in Hayes Hammer Hardware early this year, good conversation piece, nicely put together, but at that price? Going to remain a conversation piece…unless someone wants to kick off a special race series in NZ which tbh is kinda like the special olympics…

There's one on Iconic for sale currently at $75k USD. even with the conversion and shipping (and given it will never be complied for the road) then that would be cheaper.

edit: my bad https://iconicmotorbikeauctions.com/auction/2023-indian-challenger-rr-king-of-the-baggers/ - 90 grand US so $150NZD plus shipping - say 10k? maybe old boy with the one on tardme used this as his price guide?


But such an orphan here and my understanding is that the motors aren't quite 50 mile motors but they have racebike service intervals. So, expensive to own, expensive to run, and an orphan

[HenryDorsetCase]

well... prices are a wee fucked, not a lot of money around at the mo... those that paid big a few years ago will regret it...love the 77 AM tho

I have been thinking about another Bentley - the ashtrays in the current one are nearly full.

https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/lot-details/index/catalog/731/lot/225770/1952-Bentley-Mk-VI-Drop-Head-Coup?url=%2Fauctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F731

[Laava]

I have been thinking about another Bentley - the ashtrays in the current one are nearly full.

https://auctions.webbs.co.nz/lot-details/index/catalog/731/lot/225770/1952-Bentley-Mk-VI-Drop-Head-Coup?url=%2Fauctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F731
Bro, don't you just rub the ash into your jeans? Did you not grow up in NZ?

[F5 Dave]

He was so taken with Finishing school, he persuaded Matter and Patter that he keep attending until age 24.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/triumph/listing/4842442977

So, uh, doesn't everyone who ever wanted one of these already have one? And north of $25k - really?

[F5 Dave]

They have become quite reasonable as less people want them now vs. a GS1000S for example.

But it is new, so that's OK. Just.

[F5 Dave]

Well someone has had a vision here.
Probably a Fever dream.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4858416751

What is it worth? I'd say if you can get it into your garage in a stormy night without the neighbour's seeing, then quickly disassemble it, that very night, spray it black with rattle can, then you can drop it off to be paint stripped and buy some more parts. Could be OK. I'd say free would be good.

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/triumph/listing/4842442977

So, uh, doesn't everyone who ever wanted one of these already have one? And north of $25k - really?

I think you should get this just the thing for the urban top gun
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4827769047

probably faster then the SR was as well.

or more like I would expect a frame a leftist ;)
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/moto-guzzi/listing/4857908372

[dangerous]

I think you should get this just the thing for the urban top gun
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4827769047

probably faster then the SR was as well.

or more like I would expect a frame a leftist ;)
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/moto-guzzi/listing/4857908372

both very cool... mavrick not a bad price... the v35, bit steep but a tidy one

[HenryDorsetCase]

I think you should get this just the thing for the urban top gun
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4827769047

probably faster then the SR was as well.

or more like I would expect a frame a leftist ;)
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/moto-guzzi/listing/4857908372

If its the same basic motor as a V50 of similar era I wouldnt have one - I know someone who bought one new and it as a complete fucking lemon. I do like the new V7 850 though. I cant get over the new version of the "big" Guzzi's where they have turned the heads 90 degrees. It makes logical sense in terms of packaging inlet and exhaust, moving the induction away from your knees and so forth but it just looks off to me.

I would probably buy that AC50 for $1600 if it was closer to me :)

[F5 Dave]

Gawd the V50s were slow, I can't fathom wanting a huge reduction of cc in same size.

The 100 is getting great reviews . Only guzzi I have ever thought " hmm if I had 30k and a bent to do some big touring miles" otherwise the brand just leave me totally cold.

[Laava]

Couple of our far north ulysses guys had v7’s They both hated them and moved them on quite quickly. It was poor suspension in both cases. You buy them cos you love the brand and they sound awesome and shaft drive etc but at the end of the day, if you found them uncomfortable….buyers remorse I guess.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Couple of our far north ulysses guys had v7’s They both hated them and moved them on quite quickly. It was poor suspension in both cases. You buy them cos you love the brand and they sound awesome and shaft drive etc but at the end of the day, if you found them uncomfortable….buyers remorse I guess.

interesting thanks. And its interesting that suspension is the weak link, and it only costs about $3500 to fix........ Its the best money you can spend on a bike though.

[Kickaha]

Gawd the V50s were slow, I can't fathom wanting a huge reduction of cc in same size.

A V50 through the Hundalees is awesome fun, a V50 heading south from Christchurch is total shit

[Berries]

I don't have a bike bucket list but I reckon one day I will get a Guzzi solely so I can throw a lot of money at these guys.

Ghezzi Brian (https://www.ghezzi-brian.com/en/modelli/sport-monza-2-2/)

That and my RC30 for going to the shops on should just about cover it.

[F5 Dave]

A V50 through the Hundalees is awesome fun, a V50 heading south from Christchurch is total shit
Give me an RZ350 in both instances as a much better bike in every way except probably gas mileage.

[husaberg]

Give me an RZ350 in both instances as a much better bike in every way except probably gas mileage.
There is def no RZ350 in that price range but there was a RG250
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/4840890730?bof=IDYSqiHy
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/1941828430.jpg
but seeing as you have half of one with a better engine I thought you might not like one.:2thumbsup
I thought it an okay price. although I am wondering what the white smudge is hiding????? also the front caliper ?
An elder brother of a friend of mine back when I was a teen used to have one as a daily, it used to use a tank to get to the coast from CHCH which I thought was okay.I think it was a single disc one.

[jellywrestler]

Gawd the V50s were slow, I can't fathom wanting a huge reduction of cc in same size.

. is supplied a shorai battery for a mates V50, the weight saved was a good old imperial stone, yip 16 pounds, i think the battery is the same size as my MV950 super america.

[Stylo]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/triumph/listing/4842442977

So, uh, doesn't everyone who ever wanted one of these already have one? And north of $25k - really?

I would say the asking price is about right. Try and find another, if that's your thing.

[F5 Dave]

Mate has a couple of those RGs. I rode one a ways back. Neat little think std. Felt nothing like mine on 17s and riding position.

[husaberg]

Mate has a couple of those RGs. I rode one a ways back. Neat little think std. Felt nothing like mine on 17s and riding position.

I think one with 17 inch wheels say off a impulse with decent calipers off an early GSXR would be a neat daily/weekender on cheap rego too.
Add some emulators and a decent shock with tires liked treaded SS300 supercorsa track tires.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Isn't a fully restored Z1 worth about $28k?

And also he's off to an excellent start with his answer to the first question. Well played!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/4861755130

[Grumph]

Bit more rust than I'd like to see for that money. Croz doesn't ask much more for a fully restored one.

Given the amount of work I can see needed it is a tad overpriced - but they seem to have gone to stupid money.

[pete376403]

Standard exhaust seem to last a lot longer in the US. Local bikes seemed to get a 4-into1 along with the first service

[jellywrestler]

Isn't a fully restored Z1 worth about $28k?

And also he's off to an excellent start with his answer to the first question. Well played!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/4861755130

there's a lot of work to do, it seems by the Q & A it's still left hand drive....

[dangerous]

Gawd the V50s were slow, I can't fathom wanting a huge reduction of cc in same size.
slow compaired to what??? they are a riders bike know how to ride and the lack of power will not slow you... like a 400 duc Dave wind it up and ya dont need a slow till ya get off.



If its the same basic motor as a V50 of similar era I wouldnt have one - I know someone who bought one new and it as a complete fucking lemon.

NOPE... you know nuthing John Snow...

ya thinking of the 4V head 650, they were not Guzzis best days... the 350 is the same as the 500 is the same as the 750 (you can get the rear as 750 and 350 4V head bikes)

[Kickaha]

slow compaired to what???



Compared to everything, my GN125 would make more power

[F5 Dave]

slow compaired to what??? they are a riders bike know how to ride and the lack of power will not slow you... like a 400 duc Dave wind it up and ya dont need a slow till ya get off.




NOPE... you know nuthing John Snow...

ya thinking of the 4V head 650, they were not Guzzis best days... the 350 is the same as the 500 is the same as the 750 (you can get the rear as 750 and 350 4V head bikes)
You are talking to someone who spent decades racing a 50cc often against those with bikes 2 to 3 times the size.

A "riders bike?!?" Fuk off. That's just code for bland and slow. Ohh, ooh. Maybe it's got " character " that's code for the same with some good old 70s/80s Italian electrics thrown into the mix.

[jellywrestler]

good old 70s/80s Italian electrics.

never before have those words been printed or spoken before, you had italian from that era yet?

[F5 Dave]

I was being saaarcastik.
Only on the bookend, 1989. Ironically the electrics were tye most reliable part by not raising their head over the other noise.
My 2008 I rewound a coil.
My 2021 touch wood has been OK.

Continuing on the V50 slight, one of the occasional group had one. She flattened on the tank and took off at full speed (on an off road testing ground, not too dissimilar to the Himatangi straights) . My poor old GS550 had been geared up by previous owner, squashing whatever acceleration it had. I sidlded up beside her, bolt upright, one hand on the tank curious to her blending under the paintwork prone antics.

"Sometimes you just have to wind it out to 160 she excitedly exclaimed later". Or at least what her Velga (Vaguear?) instruments had displayed. Funny. I was only doing 140 (probably a real 130).

Oh well.

[jim.cox]

Or at least what her Velga (Vaguear?) instruments had displayed.

Veglia - also known as Vague Liar

[F5 Dave]

I considered looking it up as I knew it wasn't quite right, but decided I didn't really care. Then I started humming the tune for Luca (who lives on the 2nd floor) and got distracted.
(Suzanne Veglia)
​[Not really]

[jim.cox]

Then I started humming the tune for Luca (who lives on the 2nd floor)

You really are an old bastard if you still have that one running around your head...

[F5 Dave]

1987 and I spelt Luka wrong too..

[dangerous]

You are talking to someone who spent decades racing a 50cc often against those with bikes 2 to 3 times the size.

A "riders bike?!?" Fuk off. That's just code for bland and slow. Ohh, ooh. Maybe it's got " character " that's code for the same with some good old 70s/80s Italian electrics thrown into the mix.

"DAVES NOT HERE MAN"

sheeeeeert dave, lay off the weed man... what I was saying is by fuck they handle and brake like a weapon... a 350 once left me at bay 0n the 1100 in the twisties, correct that are gutless but fucking fun and faultless bikes (excepting the 4v head bikes they were fast but not for very long)




Compared to everything, my GN125 would make more power
yeah sure but FFS... it would actually have to be running for that...



You really are an old bastard if you still have that one running around your head...
yip id agree... but fuck you cox... that tune is still in my head too...

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/4891629285


80 grand to you, Sir, I like the look of your face and the cut of your jib.

[Grumph]

I'd have thought the market for that would have shrunk with the Comancheros taken down

Quite possibly a number of HD's coming up for auction soon which must depress the market.

[jim.cox]

>the extraordinary performance of the Milwaukee-Eight VVT 121 powertrain
>and advanced suspension,
>and infotainment technology
>powered by the exclusive SkylineTM OS

Yuk - sounds absolutely dreadful - what marketing cretin came up with that drivel?

[pete376403]

>the extraordinary performance of the Milwaukee-Eight VVT 121 powertrain
>and advanced suspension,
>and infotainment technology
>powered by the exclusive SkylineTM OS

Yuk - sounds absolutely dreadful - what marketing cretin came up with that drivel?

Boris likes it https://borismihailovic.com/2024-harley-davidson-road-glide-cvo-st-review-the-boss-hog/

[jim.cox]

Boris likes it

I've always been partial to a large capacity aircooled V-twin myself
and Hardleys sure could do with an advance in Suspension
but Infotainment?

That's NOT what I ride a bike for....

[HenryDorsetCase]

Boris likes it https://borismihailovic.com/2024-harley-davidson-road-glide-cvo-st-review-the-boss-hog/

I do like a man who refers to the "two beer solution"

I believe there are many parallels between the people who buy blingy "Special Edition" Ducatis and blingy (which is all of them) Harleys.

[dangerous]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/harley-davidson/listing/4891629285


80 grand to you, Sir, I like the look of your face and the cut of your jib.

Thats a 2000cc engine with a lot of fancy shit, it will sell several times over... but not to me.
a good case of how the japs and euros saved HDs arse...

[pete376403]

I've always been partial to a large capacity aircooled V-twin myself
and Hardleys sure could do with an advance in Suspension
but Infotainment?

That's NOT what I ride a bike for....

Maybe if riding on an endless superslab highway in the US the sound system may have a place.

[dangerous]

SUPER RARE...

FFS itsa old GT nice cool... but with that milage vs age start riding it and it will need a full rebuild... ohhh those old seals n bearings that have stood still for so long... 8k max
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4897822323

[Grumph]

SUPER RARE...

FFS itsa old GT nice cool... but with that milage vs age start riding it and it will need a full rebuild... ohhh those old seals n bearings that have stood still for so long... 8k max
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4897822323

Agreed. Plus a carb rebuild.

[pete376403]

SUPER RARE...

FFS itsa old GT nice cool... but with that milage vs age start riding it and it will need a full rebuild... ohhh those old seals n bearings that have stood still for so long... 8k max
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4897822323


I'd rather have the first model with the 4LS front brake. While probably not as good as the disk, it looked far more unique

[Kickaha]

I'd rather have the first model with the 4LS front brake. While probably not as good as the disk, it looked far more unique

I had one of those back when they were a 500 dollar bike, a friend bought a disc version for 300, both good runners, mid eighties

Very nice smooth motor

[F5 Dave]

I wanted to ride one, I have in my mind how they must feel from the noise and old suzuki ethos. A mate rode one back in the day and said it was just dreadful. I'll prefer Kicks account as that suits my mental narrative and I'm unlikely to have keys put in my hand.

[SaferRides]

I had one of those back when they were a 500 dollar bike, a friend bought a disc version for 300, both good runners, mid eighties

Very nice smooth motorI had one when I was at Uni, it was stolen just before I finished my course. Still pissed off, a great bike. Much more enjoyable than the GS550E I eventually bought to replace it after I started work.

I'd look for the L model as they had a more tucked in exhaust and didn't scrape as easily. But much as I'd like another, I'm sure it would be a disappointment to ride one again.

Sent from my SM-S906E using Tapatalk

[F5 Dave]

I had a GS550. It was a capable motorcycle and glad it wasn't a CB550 for example. But the love ended there. After a Katana 750 (original) I had a CBX550 which was better than either of them. An the RZ '88 eclipsed them all by a margin.

[jellywrestler]

I had a GS550. It was a capable motorcycle and glad it wasn't a CB550 for example. But the love ended there. After a Katana 750 (original) I had a CBX550 which was better than either of them. An the RZ '88 eclipsed them all by a margin.

I brought a GS550EX new, 36000lm in 18 months, was a great bike but off an ZR250 as pretty much my road bike anything would have been, then got a new GPZ550 unitrak.

[F5 Dave]

I came from a TT500. That was humorous, but Trials Universals on the road or at least the wet were a bit dodge. Having said that, 3 bikes back was an XR250A on absolute worn out knobblies, how I never crashed that I don't know.

[F5 Dave]

Ah my old favourite..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/4896502121

[F5 Dave]

Well this is very curious. No idea what it should be worth, but it is, well kinda fugly.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/norton/listing/4906567261

[jellywrestler]

Well this is very curious. No idea what it should be worth, but it is, well kinda fugly.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/norton/listing/4906567261

built by chris knibbs it's a work of art, and some works of art are fugly
Chris was a low volume certifier and very talented

[F5 Dave]

Yeah I imagine the end product could be good but depends on geometry, by the sounds it isn't a lashup. It's a pity it sounds like it never really got finished like many projects, but that could just be the current owner isn't describing very much. LVV is critical.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ah my old favourite..

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/kawasaki/listing/4896502121

I rang that guy about a CB750 he had/has - Seemed like a decent guy. Personally I think he is asking 2021 prices and the economy has moved on. Cars and bikes seem to be slower moving and cheaper than they were then. Not sure how flexible he is on the prices. Touch him up, you now you want one. Or two. Perhaps three.

[HenryDorsetCase]

This wanker is back. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/ducati/listing/4907669224

[Berries]

He couldn't even be arsed removing the washing cloth before taking the photos.

[HenryDorsetCase]

He couldn't even be arsed removing the washing cloth before taking the photos.

Or in fact washing the bike properly. There's dust all over the frickin' wheels. Since he took that photo in April and today it has done 125 km. Needs to hand in the motorcycling card.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah I imagine the end product could be good but depends on geometry, by the sounds it isn't a lashup. It's a pity it sounds like it never really got finished like many projects, but that could just be the current owner isn't describing very much. LVV is critical.

That does have very "Bevel Ducati" vibes in the front end. Its a cool bike though.

[neels]

This wanker is back. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/ducati/listing/4907669224
I'm usually a bit dubious of 'no test rides', I'd like to hear if it makes any horrid noises (other than the built in Ducati ones) before I start sinking money into inspections etc. A bit like buying from Turners, where the test drive is to the end of the car park and back.

However I'm also considering shedding one of the fleet, and don't like the idea of some fuckwit seeing how fast it goes in first gear on a residential street straight into the side of nana's suzuki swift, so there is the quandary.

Anyway, 'tis a nice looking bike, the optimistic bit is finding someone with money to buy it in the current cost of living crisis.

[jellywrestler]

I'm usually a bit dubious of 'no test rides',.

i think a lot of people dont know how to write an advert, so revert to cliches like that, barn find, only ridden on sundays. etc.
look at how many can't even think to put whether a bike is regoed or even in the system.

[F5 Dave]

Well I actually sold a bike today now I think of it:cry:

Wrote the add, took the pictures on Sunday, but never got as far as TradeMe.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Well I actually sold a bike today now I think of it:cry:

Wrote the add, took the pictures on Sunday, but never got as far as TradeMe.

Now you're flush with CASH MONEY might one suggest...............

[F5 Dave]

Well there's another on TM that is taking a while . Need to pay for the van I had to replace.
If I get well enough there's an Adventure bike I'm eyeing up so that might mean another bike has to go. Could 5 be enough?

[Laava]

There is a mean as Multi 1100S on TM at the moment Dave, you will not want to miss it! Plus, I am riding it down to wellies on Thursday if you want me to drop it off!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/ducati/listing/4906721777

[F5 Dave]

Looks like a very reasonable price. Way too Red to roll down a bank into a creek.
(I was going to sat pretty, but, ah, I bet she's comfortable and a good cook. :shutup:

[Laava]

She's a dirty girl! She is happy to be rolled thru shit into a creek!

[Drew]

There is a mean as Multi 1100S on TM at the moment Dave, you will not want to miss it! Plus, I am riding it down to wellies on Thursday if you want me to drop it off!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/ducati/listing/4906721777

At least you don't have to look at it if you're the one riding it.

[Laava]

At least you don't have to look at it if you're the one riding it.
Haha, you're just being mean! Don't make me come down there and run you over with my Fiat Multipla!

[F5 Dave]

Had to Google that. -Ohh! Mumma.:sick:

[Laava]

Had to Google that. -Ohh! Mumma.:sick:
He is asking for it tho! :laugh:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Haha, you're just being mean! Don't make me come down there and run you over with my Fiat Multipla!

I once did a four person road trip/mountainbiking trip in a Multipla. Incredible vehicle. Comfortable, spacious, quick, and two bikes on the roof and two on the back and all the shit inside.

[husaberg]

Well there's another on TM that is taking a while . Need to pay for the van I had to replace.
If I get well enough there's an Adventure bike I'm eyeing up so that might mean another bike has to go. Could 5 be enough?


I have never understood the van thig with dirt bikes Dave. Other then the low ramp height?
I fully understand with road race bikes security bike not getting wet in rain etc etc
but with the dirt bikes wouldn't a ute be more butch?

[F5 Dave]

I have never understood the van thig with dirt bikes Dave. Other then the low ramp height?
I fully understand with road race bikes security bike not getting wet in rain etc etc
but with the dirt bikes wouldn't a ute be more butch?
Well that one is sold too. Down to five bikes.

Utes are terrible. Only good for getting out of the carpark if it rained.

Ramp height means you either have to ride it up (cue youtube or the old America's funniest home videos), or be 7' tall.

Then if you stop for a meal all your gear is exposed, gas, tools, riding kit. Do an overnight, more security issues. Inclement weather you can't change in the van. Only trailers are worse, but have advantage of low loading.

[dangerous]

There is a mean as Multi 1100S on TM at the moment Dave, you will not want to miss it! Plus, I am riding it down to wellies on Thursday if you want me to drop it off!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/ducati/listing/4906721777
the short arsed prick would never manage to get on it, besides he reckons any more than 2 strokes and its a wast.


This wanker is back. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/ducati/listing/4907669224
ewwww... its like it wants to be a Deavel...


However I'm also considering shedding one of the fleet, and don't like the idea of some fuckwit seeing how fast it goes in first gear on a residential street straight into the side of nana's suzuki swift,
in the current cost of living crisis.

can I be that fuckwit... Im good at it, which bike... and what "crisis" shit we aint near that YET

[pete376403]

As a sixteen year old I bought a Bambina 500 Fiat for my first car hahaha

It had a Nardi conversion which had a big bore 650 and doubled the HP to 36 bhp !!!! went about as fast as a Mini...... (no not a Cooper !)...

The things we do huh ? lol. :woohoo: :yes:

Did you buy that in Wellington (Lower Hutt)? A guy I did my apprenticeship with had a Nardi Bambina - VW 1300 barrels and pistons, might have been the VW head as well. Went a lot better than it stopped

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/4913464322?bof=LqR7XgvA

Want to hate it. Dont hate it. Cool.

[dangerous]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/4913464322?bof=LqR7XgvA

Want to hate it. Dont hate it. Cool.

thats shit...

[Grumph]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/4913464322?bof=LqR7XgvA

Want to hate it. Dont hate it. Cool.


You sir, are a sick puppy.

[HenryDorsetCase]

You sir, are a sick puppy.

I invested a lot of time age 11-15 drawing choppers in the back of my maths book. It had the grid so you could sort of get the proportions right. Never owned one but this and the Captain America bike from Easy rider were probably the first motorbikes I was conscious of. And a neighbour who had a Honda CB750.

[onearmedbandit]

I think it's pretty cool and I ain't even a chopper guy

[F5 Dave]

It's so blury it looks like a model, but scale of grass and garage look right. How did he transfer the photo from his flip Nokia?

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's so blury it looks like a model, but scale of grass and garage look right. How did he transfer the photo from his flip Nokia?

You can buy a flip Motorola again. I am going to look at one cos that was the coolest phone I ever had. SWMBO wants one of those brick Nokias again because her first one lasted 6 or 8 years till they turned off 3g or 2g or something.

[F5 Dave]

They were analogue, let's say 2C, just for giggles..

[Drew]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/4913464322?bof=LqR7XgvA

Want to hate it. Dont hate it. Cool.

I think it's cool.

[jim.cox]

I think it's cool.

But I would not want to ride/own it

[F5 Dave]

Well the bike just left. I have no more motorcycles.

Well, no more GasGas motorcycles that is. (Geez!).
I'll probably not buy another.

Old GG factory is Reiju, but not well supported in NZ.
Otherwise they are just Red KTooms.

GG Trials bikes are pretty epic.

[dangerous]

I think it's cool.

not as cool as me tho...

[jellywrestler]

not as cool as me tho...

having covid isn't cool but at least you're masking up

[F5 Dave]

Dude, yer about an inch taller than me if that.

[husaberg]

Dude, yer about an inch taller than me if that.

so he's 5''4' then?

[Kickaha]

so he's 5''4' then?

Only if he wears his heels

[pritch]

Haha, you're just being mean! Don't make me come down there and run you over with my Fiat Multipla!

You own a Popemobile?

[Laava]

Bless you my son!…

[Hairymcsweary]

If you almost triple the cc rating description and you can inflate the value by as much as you like .....

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/listing/4924032958?tm=email&et=45&mt=92EB27AA-546B-4DDE-8454-0C60D78C452A&bof=FAaEX0iK

[F5 Dave]

Nice find.

Brandy (stripper name) sez that the pates are not live.
Well that's a relief. Never was into Goldfish laybacks in the 90s and my taste for eating live food has not increased since then.

[dangerous]

shit... close to 12k and not ar reserve...fuck I shoulda kept mine...https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4952050746

[speedpro]

I had a good time on mine when I was in Perth in the late '80s

[F5 Dave]

If it starts to get bids. A 350 would have maybe some chance. Nah I think 8-10k. No engine work. You could get an Aprilia for that maybe.

[husaberg]

Not optimistic at all only seen these in old mags ..how bloody cool
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1363270061716471
water in wheel 2wd cvt

[dangerous]

Not optimistic at all only seen these in old mags ..how bloody cool
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1363270061716471
water in wheel 2wd cvt

sick farker...

[F5 Dave]

Except for old mags I saw one on YouTube, perhaps a bikes and beards where they got one going.

[dangerous]

DAVE, DAVE... 'DAVES NOT HERE MAN'

mate heres one you will love... includes a trailer... COOL
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4960090055

[F5 Dave]

Ooh, yeah you're right. Madness.
Also that first one will be a 250A with 23" front wheel.
I had one when I was 17.
It was shit.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4965519361

What makes this optimistic is the thought that there is anything usable or salvageable here. The guy making the crack about givvus a hunge to take it away is on the right track. Clearly it has been stored in a pond.

[F5 Dave]

Ahh, that'll buff out.

[pritch]

His optimism knows no bounds. To be worth restoring from that condition a bike would need to be exceptional. Say f'rinstance a Brough Superior formerly owned by T E Lawrence. A Honda? Nah.

[F5 Dave]

I don't usually delve other listings but he's also selling some other honda engines, what looks like a CB450 and maybe CB77. Probably stored in the same lake.

Estate sale. Wonder if these were unearthed when the police dredged the farm waterways looking for the murder weapon?

[onearmedbandit]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/listing/4967348130?bof=IZ5wvFPk

Even with those kms I have to assume this is a typo.

[F5 Dave]

Ha!
But jeez how lazy is the single photo? I almost removed the sheet. . .

[F5 Dave]

Why do people think they can get 12k for an RD400 with shit pipes on it?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/4965552396

This looks like quite a nice bike but someone has baulked at the cost of importing some unobtanium original pipes or as 2nd best some period Higgspeed etc chambers in chrome.
Instead bodge on some cigar RZ pipes perhaps with some cruddy interface welding and certainly not a performance match.

Seat strip will be hard to find.

Look, I understand these parts would set you back 2-4 grand maybe more. But understand that it devalues the bike by that or even more.
Problem is there's another clown with one asking the same. (With no bites as it is still several grand over odds even with pipes).
Oh lordy both Nelson lakes. . .

Hmm seems to have dropped price or i mis read. But thick end of 11k is still cuckoo

[Kickaha]

Hmm seems to have dropped price or i mis read. But thick end of 11k is still cuckoo

I don't think it is that unrealistic anymore, maybe a little on the high side but not much, I bought 2 RD400 for $750, one a runner, sold them for about the same to a guy I knew but that was some time ago

I said to a guy a while ago who was moaning about the price of something that back when he was younger was a few hundred dollars, those times are long gone, the cheapest time to buy is normally now, they'll only go up

[F5 Dave]

If it had the most expensive and hardest to source bits.
I appreciate that an RD is skyrocketing. Trust me I was chasing one for quite a while. There was a mint original that didn't make $6k but was (eventually) withdrawn (sold out of TM I guess) post covid. So 5 years ago a mint one could just about make 6k.
It would have to double in 5 years and get those so important for the right look pipes.

But we are getting to peak RD value I'd offer. Peak RZ is around the corner and Aprilia RS250s will climb for maybe another 10 years maybe.
Buyers of an age will be downsizing after that and the new crowd coverting K5 zooks (which suzuki will still be producing engines based off that platform in 2030 assuming petrol is still selling. :lol:

[dangerous]

https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/1976-honda-400-four-cb400f/SSE-AD-17980934/?Cr=176

[Grumph]

I think I just threw up....

And it's got keihin CR's.....

Probably needed a performance boost if he's got a pillion passenger to match the seat size....

[HenryDorsetCase]

If you want one, this is the one to buy.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/4955673851


Now I am very old I am way into my tiny bikes.

[F5 Dave]

https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/1976-honda-400-four-cb400f/SSE-AD-17980934/?Cr=176
Wow! It's got everything. The king and queen seat, those bars, the tool roll in silly place, gold springs, highway pegs. The list just goes on and on.
It would be hard to make a funnier bike. Gumby mixed with Gee I'm cool :headbang:Eh?

[Laava]

Wow! It's got everything. The king and queen seat, those bars, the tool roll in silly place, gold springs, highway pegs. The list just goes on and on.
It would be hard to make a funnier bike. Gumby mixed with Gee I'm cool :headbang:Eh?
Bring back Itchiban Moto!
Oh, wait, here he is!
https://youtu.be/dfS18QKkabY?si=4swNyKurCoDw-B0S

[Stylo]

Bring back Itchiban Moto!
Oh, wait, here he is!
https://youtu.be/dfS18QKkabY?si=4swNyKurCoDw-B0S

That's good.

[F5 Dave]

Have these really reached this much?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4962498472

I mean a nice enough bike and well restored probably.
But there's a Katana for that and a 916 for less.
Hmm comments show there's debate already.

[Stylo]

Have these really reached this much?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/suzuki/listing/4962498472

I mean a nice enough bike and well restored probably.
But there's a Katana for that and a 916 for less.
Hmm comments show there's debate already.

Lot of money asking for a bike, while nicely resored, was only a gap filler for Suzuki.

I could think of better bikes for the money too mate.

[Grumph]

More than they could ever have hoped for as a gap filler.

Set performance standards that took the Hayabusa to equal and eventually beat.

An absolute legend of a motor.

But I doubt the asking price is justified while there are still some good examples to be found.

[roogazza]

What do you get if you cross a Triumph and a Greeves? A Grumph!

sorry bud, saw this and had to share !!!!! G xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Grumph]

What do you get if you cross a Triumph and a Greeves? A Grumph!

sorry bud, saw this and had to share !!!!! G xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Seen a couple - but never built or ridden one.

[dangerous]

WTF on earth...https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/other/listing/4989560807

[Grumph]

Now that's what I call patina.

Don't restore it, just get it running and clearcoat over everything.

[dangerous]

Now that's what I call patina.

Don't restore it, just get it running and clearcoat over everything.

KN oath aye...

[jellywrestler]

Now that's what I call patina.

Don't restore it, just get it running and clearcoat over everything.

unless the rust is active don't touch it

[F5 Dave]

Was running when parked. . . What came before Neanderthals?

[pritch]

Was running when parked. . . What came before Neanderthals?

LOL. "Needs full rebuild." No argument from me.

[Laava]

My current project was in similar condition for the most part. And no, it is not Triggers broom.

[dangerous]

$1000 for two rusted shit heaps that "aparently run"
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5003667231

[jellywrestler]

$1000 for two rusted shit heaps that "aparently run"
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5003667231

fucked photos, no rego status, who lets these people on computers?

[SaferRides]

$1000 for two rusted shit heaps that "aparently run"
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5003667231And as of now, 7 people are watching!

Sent from my SM-S906E using Tapatalk

[pritch]

$1000 for two rusted shit heaps that "aparently run"


"Apparently run." That's a new one - and looking at the bikes certainly qualifies as optimistic.

[jellywrestler]

And as of now, 7 people are watching!

Sent from my SM-S906E using Tapatalk

for amusement probably, like the term often used "turns heads" often confused with people shaking their heads.....

[Laava]

"Apparently run." That's a new one - and looking at the bikes certainly qualifies as optimistic.
He should start a "bearded mechanic" channel

[jellywrestler]

He should start a "bearded mechanic" channel

dunno what your autocorrect changed to bearded, but i can think of several words.

[F5 Dave]

Ahh that's only Surface Rusttm.

It's the Rust under the Surface Rusttm you need to be worried about.

[Laava]

dunno what your autocorrect changed to bearded, but i can think of several words.

https://youtu.be/hRXM51DWNJ0?si=Mx5nDW0psAc1I4fG
This guy I was referencing. Kinda entertaining in a why would you kinda way but he has endless patience and some humour.

[pritch]

Currently EICMA is on again. Clips are popping up on YouTube. Some new models, some same ol' same ol', and a tease or two. In the latter category a Honda 900cc V3 with "compressor".


Update:
The compressor is an electrically powered fan forcce feeding the airbox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuhthWvIkY8

[HenryDorsetCase]

Currently EICMA is on again. Clips are popping up on YouTube. Some new models, some same ol' same ol', and a tease or two. In the latter category a Honda 900cc V3 with "compressor".


Update:
The compressor is an electrically powered fan forcce feeding the airbox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuhthWvIkY8

Packaging the fuel and rider and the stuff to make it road legal would be a challenge, but I love that concept. Imagine it with Britten-esque bodywork and absolute minimum of road legal compliant frippery. Would buy.

[F5 Dave]

Only if styled as a cross between Bobber, Cafe Racer, and Adventure bike so I don't have to choose which worn out fad I'm following.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Only if styled as a cross between Bobber, Cafe Racer, and Adventure bike so I don't have to choose which worn out fad I'm following.

Nah full fairing sports bike

With this colour scheme and number. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY

[F5 Dave]

Make it a 500 2 stroke and yeah my money too.

[pete376403]

Currently EICMA is on again. Clips are popping up on YouTube. Some new models, some same ol' same ol', and a tease or two. In the latter category a Honda 900cc V3 with "compressor".


Update:
The compressor is an electrically powered fan force feeding the airbox.

So, an electric turbo. While not denying Honda can make anything happen, wondering about the amount of electric power required to spin the compressor fast enough to supply the volume of air necessary - given the 130-140,000 rpm is not unusual for an exhaust driven turbo. So where is this electric power coming from? The engine alternator, which requires engine power to spin it. Whereas an exhaust driven turbo is (almost) free power from otherwise wasted heat energy.
.

[husaberg]

So, an electric turbo. While not denying Honda can make anything happen, wondering about the amount of electric power required to spin the compressor fast enough to supply the volume of air necessary - given the 130-140,000 rpm is not unusual for an exhaust driven turbo. So where is this electric power coming from? The engine alternator, which requires engine power to spin it. Whereas an exhaust driven turbo is (almost) free power from otherwise wasted heat energy.
.

On demand power when needed. Can be powered from Regen power.
A decent size road bike is only likely at full throttle for approx 1% of the time.
Honda is not really a big turbo fan (get it)
other than f1 the CX and the City I don't recall many. edit they did a civic 1.5 as well.

[pritch]

wondering about the amount of electric power required to spin the compressor fast enough to supply the volume of air necessary - given the 130-140,000 rpm is not unusual for an exhaust driven turbo.


The compressor could be compared to a turbo - as you have done. It does sorta look like one. Pressurising the airbox though might require less output than what a turbo could produce.

[F5 Dave]

I've got a few old desktops I could pull the fans out of, we're onto something here. :clap:

Bike has enough shunt for me, but my new van is pretty pedestrian. More Power! :crazy:

[pritch]

That bloody V3 is bothering me. I've had singles, two stroke and four; a V Twin; a triple; fours standing up, lying down, and in a V. No V3 though. :nono:
Bugger!

[Grumph]

That bloody V3 is bothering me. I've had singles, two stroke and four; a V Twin; a triple; fours standing up, lying down, and in a V. No V3 though. :nono:
Bugger!

I wouldn't let it worry you. Honda's record with V3's is 50/50 so far.

Old favourite MVX is a regular in this thread.

If this one is as reliable or well designed, it may also achieve disaster status.

[pritch]

Old favourite MVX is a regular in this thread.


Ah yes. I'd forgotten about those. In my defence, they were eminently forgettable.

Thanks. That helped ease the lust.

[dangerous]

That bloody V3 is bothering me. I've had singles, two stroke and four; a V Twin; a triple; fours standing up, lying down, and in a V. No V3 though. :nono:
Bugger!

ridden the MVX and NS400 awesome in a Honda way...what about a DKW 350 also a 2 stroke but Guzzi built a V3 4 stroke, tho you should really call it a W3

[husaberg]

ridden the MVX and NS400 awesome in a Honda way...what about a DKW 350 also a 2 stroke but Guzzi built a V3 4 stroke, tho you should really call it a W3
I have posted the laverda v3 somewhere.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/86554-ESE-s-works-engine-tuner?p=1130212594#post1130212594

[dangerous]

I have posted the laverda v3 somewhere.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/86554-ESE-s-works-engine-tuner?p=1130212594#post1130212594

well there ya go... i never knew

[husaberg]

Suzuki V3 50cc
355150355151355152

[dangerous]

Why the FUCK... do people destroy a awesome looking bike butcher it into a bullshit Cafe wreck and think its worth more than the original???
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/moto-guzzi/listing/5026025359

[F5 Dave]

Well he has done a nice job on the upholstery, it's almost tight in places and doesn't really look like a plank was the seatbase.

[jellywrestler]

Why the FUCK... do people destroy a awesome looking bike

they didn't, the larios always looked like a recently fucked bottom, in saying that they have managed to make an ugly bike worserer here

[dangerous]

they didn't, the larios always looked like a recently fucked bottom, in saying that they have managed to make an ugly bike worserer here

Well... I never, no jelly for youuuuu... ya off my xmas card list.

[husaberg]

I just bought a cafe bike with a brown seat
cut mufflers and subframe and striped and clear coated tank stripped fairing street fighter weird led light
almost like those french monstrosities they used to have occasionally in FB and PB in the 90's
I call it rescue mutt.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I just bought a cafe bike with a brown seat
cut mufflers and subframe and striped and clear coated tank stripped fairing street fighter weird led light
almost like those french monstrosities they used to have occasionally in FB and PB in the 90's
I call it rescue mutt.

Gonna need a picture. Hopefully its a GN250 cafe. Or an SR400

[Grumph]

I just bought a cafe bike with a brown seat
cut mufflers and subframe and striped and clear coated tank stripped fairing street fighter weird led light
almost like those french monstrosities they used to have occasionally in FB and PB in the 90's
I call it rescue mutt.


Dogcati ?

And a couple of extra characters

[HenryDorsetCase]

The least desirable variant of a still-not-very desirable model. And you want how much?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/5050631443?bof=tI9NbBzN

[Stylo]

The least desirable variant of a still-not-very desirable model. And you want how much?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/5050631443?bof=tI9NbBzN

True. On every point.

[F5 Dave]

Great condition. Tedious model. $7k? But you'd only own it because it's clean. No one would come up in the street and state their lust for it.

[jellywrestler]

Great condition. Tedious model. $7k? But you'd only own it because it's clean. No one would come up in the street and state their lust for it.

they weren't a model sold in nz new from memrory and most people who want old bikes have a connection to them.

on the plus side cheap rego so the savings in rego what with it going up soon will pay for itself in maybe ten years or so.

[F5 Dave]

Agreed re the connection. Or the lust back in the day.
Or just being so damn Quirky (only explanation of my Stinger, it's as old as I am).

I used to buy old Cycle magazines 2nd hand so schooled up on mercan market bikes more than was healthy. But they did strip and photograph the engines. I assume not on test bikes, but importer training props. Sure looked like it though, was impressive.

Just glad I didn't start buying SleasyRider. My adolescent mind might have taken a liking for PigIrontm steeds and tattoo'd wimmin objects.

[Dak S83]

If this isn't optimistic I don't know what is https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/5054873378?bof=yH4TP3ft

[F5 Dave]

Ooh yes, featuring here before. Quite a piece. .Strange . He hasn't sold it?:innocent:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ooh yes, featuring here before. Quite a piece. .Strange . He hasn't sold it?:innocent:

You want the motor for some two stroke shenanagins, and I want the running gear. Front end complete, rear wheel complete with brake m/c.

Why?

Because this is the only Harley I want:

https://www.bikeexif.com/harley-sportster-1200-street-tracker

[Grumph]

Reading the spiel with that, I'm glad they left the XRTT alone. Probably worth shedloads more than the custom.

[dangerous]

Because this is the only Harley I want:

https://www.bikeexif.com/harley-sportster-1200-street-tracker

not much thought put into his brand... im embrassed that he would put a slur on the name Buell and use the Pegasus horse... and a 1203, dick

[Kickaha]

If this isn't optimistic I don't know what is https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/listing/5054873378?bof=yH4TP3ft

LAMs approved ? I don't fucking think so, would also need cert if it was going to go on the road as do a lot of modified bikes that are advertised

[Stylo]

LAMs approved ? I don't fucking think so, would also need cert if it was going to go on the road as do a lot of modified bikes that are advertised

I don't understand why you would base your project build powered by a DT175 motor. It was never a good motor to start with. Apart from being totally gutless. No engineering is going to change that . 10k ?

Good luck .

[husaberg]

What I don't understand is this
how was this fuel cap going to work with this tank......
355309355310

[F5 Dave]

Oh but it's very SteamPunk Darling. That was a thing 10 years back.
You just have to, hmm, try, . . Well maybe it can be ornamental?

[Grumph]

Magpie syndrome - It's shiny, I want it.

Look at what else was bought in. Shiny,shiny,shiny.

[husaberg]

Oh but it's very SteamPunk Darling. That was a thing 10 years back.
You just have to, hmm, try, . . Well maybe it can be ornamental?


Magpie syndrome - It's shiny, I want it.

Look at what else was bought in. Shiny,shiny,shiny.

Ahh the shiny gold dangler....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yQMN_nCYqc

[dangerous]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5060566422


I mean what the actual fuck n fuckery... sit on it and the rear wheels going through the guard... like a shella I know couldent get a WOF on her R3 cos she changed the leavers for after market so it was a lot safer to ride with her wee hands...

[pete376403]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5060566422


a shella I know couldent get a WOF on her R3 cos she changed the leavers for after market so it was a lot safer to ride with her wee hands...

Let me guess - that was at VTNZ?

[dangerous]

Let me guess - that was at VTNZ?

You know it...

[neels]

Probably optimistic that it will sell at any price given the rego is dead, but at least there's some entertainment in the description

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/listing/5060596802

[neels]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5060566422


I mean what the actual fuck n fuckery... sit on it and the rear wheels going through the guard... like a shella I know couldent get a WOF on her R3 cos she changed the leavers for after market so it was a lot safer to ride with her wee hands...

And yet, with your fascination for things with the cylinders pointing the wrong way, you still want it.....

[F5 Dave]

Probably optimistic that it will sell at any price given the rego is dead, but at least there's some entertainment in the description

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/listing/5060596802
Thank you. That's well written.

[F5 Dave]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5051616677

Um. Well it would be amusing for a short white, but um, I could think of better use for your money.

[F5 Dave]

Same for this, but without the amusement.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5063600468

[Grumph]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5051616677

Um. Well it would be amusing for a short white, but um, I could think of better use for your money.

His other listings are worth a look. The CB250RS almost deserves it's own mention here.

[F5 Dave]

My word that is ugly. The scopio is perhaps worse with the false bug eye headlight.

Why so many small ugly bikes? And a $430k plane. So he's not short of a coin.

[jellywrestler]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5051616677

Um. Well it would be amusing for a short white, but um, I could think of better use for your money.

i find it very cool, and well worth the coin in the right area. there's many blue smoke and pedal rides that that would stand out above many, there's many people who commute who will have soemthing unique too

[husaberg]

My word that is ugly. The scopio is perhaps worse with the false bug eye headlight.

Why so many small ugly bikes? And a $430k plane. So he's not short of a coin.

As a former bucket racer Dave,
based on his location and the plane I would say he's ex or current RNZAF Woodbourne the bird will I guess be on behalf or part of a syndicate.
The CG looks well engineered, Whilst the fairings would be not for everyone the bike is far far better than most.
I can't pick what the tank is from it might be fabricated?

[F5 Dave]

His other bikes listed are Fugly as fick. The CG, well actually I quite like it. But for the money you'd have to really have a lot spare to put that away for an occasional joke as it is a 110. Bear in mind I rode to the Cold Kiwi 6 times on my RG50 (once gf had CG110) despite more suitable bikes in shed, but the RG was my commuter.

I guess the CG could be. But you'd want to be close to work and not ride in the rain on those tyres.

[sugilite]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5051616677

Um. Well it would be amusing for a short white, but um, I could think of better use for your money.

I quite like it and can appreciate the workmanship that has gone into the build. I personally would not want it unless a dual exhaust was built with up swept mufflers. Pop a couple of marshmallows onto those glorious fins, then the exhausts could do their work and one would have glorious gooey marshmallows to go withe the morning coffee on the commute to work.

[F5 Dave]

Oh dear
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5060201583

You van buy an honest looking VF1000F for this sort of money.

Even has picture of kid on toy scooter pointing and laughing (presumably).

[HenryDorsetCase]

Oh dear
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5060201583

You van buy an honest looking VF1000F for this sort of money.

Even has picture of kid on toy scooter pointing and laughing (presumably).

COME AND TAKE IT FOR A BRAAAAP

whatever the hell that is

[F5 Dave]

Sounded better than "come and take it for a slow wet fart"

[jellywrestler]

COME AND TAKE IT FOR A BRAAAAP

whatever the hell that is

it's like ride it and see how sick it is, I think.

[dangerous]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5089068841 :nya::brick::motu:

[Kickaha]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/yamaha/listing/5089068841 :nya::brick::motu:

Not really that optimistic, how many do you see for sale and what money do they want for them ? if you really wanted one you'd pay that

[husaberg]

worth it if he threw in suit.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5083672362

[Racing Dave]

if you really wanted one you'd pay that

...unless it appeared to have been stored outdoors on a beach.

[F5 Dave]

Not really that optimistic, how many do you see for sale and what money do they want for them ? if you really wanted one you'd pay that

For that sort of money it would need to be:
1. Cleaned so you could assess condition.
2. Loosely assembled so you could assess what you were getting.

It would be safer to assume what you are looking at was:
1. Crashed
2. Rusted beyond repair
3. Worn out
4. If you can't actually see it, lost.

It would be a lot cheaper to buy the mintest example for moonbeam money than try fix that pile of misery.

. . . in fact I'm waiting for a mate to decide he needs more room in his lounge.

[pritch]

OK so apropos of optimistic sellers... The passage below is from the official website. I have edited it to remove identifying information.

What marvel of modern motorcycling do you think this blurb refers to?


Where every ride is a symphony of heartbeats. This motorcycle is a unique blend of styling, precision and affordability. Feel the power of its grunty engine, delivering a ride that is as sophisticated as it is thrilling. With a timeless design that seamlessly fuses with modern technology, it is more than a bike – it's an experience.
Crafted with premium materials it is a testament to quality and attention to detail. The smooth throttle response adds a touch of finesse to every twist of the wrist, making it not just a means of transportation but a journey through time and style. It redefines your expectations of what a motorcycle can be.

[pritch]

Symphony of heartbeats?

https://www.hondamotorbikes.co.nz/gb350

[F5 Dave]

I was thinking something Hondaish or a clone of the c50 up to 150cc. So I was wrong, but in the right place.

Ooh. Riding with precision. Instead of bouncing off guttering to wherever the road is heading. :pinch:

[sugilite]

Reads like Honda sacked the marketing team and got a bean counter to do a CHAT GPT insert.

As an example I just used the prompt "please provide a marketing snippet using a poetic style for a suzuki B120 motorcycle " and the below is what chat gpt came up with - look familiar?
"Beneath the urban twilight, whispers of adventure call, Suzuki B120—your timeless companion for the open road, With every gentle purr, freedom's siren echoes, Through city streets and winding paths, your spirit boldly flows.

In a world where dreams ignite, this classic ride prevails, Its chrome and curves, a testament to tales, Of journeys past and those to come, where heart and engine meld, Suzuki B120, where the winds of wanderlust are held.

Feel the pulse, the rush, the thrill—embrace the ride anew, Let every mile, every twist, in vibrant hues imbue, For in the dance of wheels and earth, a story finds its start, Suzuki B120, the poet's steed, with rhythm, grace, and heart."



OK so apropos of optimistic sellers... The passage below is from the official website. I have edited it to remove identifying information.

What marvel of modern motorcycling do you think this blurb refers to?


Where every ride is a symphony of heartbeats. This motorcycle is a unique blend of styling, precision and affordability. Feel the power of its grunty engine, delivering a ride that is as sophisticated as it is thrilling. With a timeless design that seamlessly fuses with modern technology, it is more than a bike – it's an experience.
Crafted with premium materials it is a testament to quality and attention to detail. The smooth throttle response adds a touch of finesse to every twist of the wrist, making it not just a means of transportation but a journey through time and style. It redefines your expectations of what a motorcycle can be.

[Grumph]

When I went to school, that was called selling the sizzle,not the sausage.

Between new bikes that look like sharp edged decepticons - and those that are simply a poor pastiche of what some child designer thinks is "classic"
I suspect it's time to abandon road motorcycles.

Does anyone know who's got a mould for the big 50's Royal Enfield aeroflow fairing ?

I reckon it'd suit the mobility scooter I'm overdue for.....

[husaberg]

When I went to school, that was called selling the sizzle,not the sausage.

Between new bikes that look like sharp edged decepticons - and those that are simply a poor pastiche of what some child designer thinks is "classic"
I suspect it's time to abandon road motorcycles.

Does anyone know who's got a mould for the big 50's Royal Enfield aeroflow fairing ?

I reckon it'd suit the mobility scooter I'm overdue for.....

Oddly I see you getting a C5 Sinclair.
355353

Or maybe a Greeves invacar
355354

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY2jvzAWR2k

[sugilite]

I sent Sinclair Grumphs riding resume, and they felt the new sexy C6 prototype would be more fitting for him.

https://andys-kawasaki-zxr-zx7r-tribute-site.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/pixeldojo-image-1735257281535-snhg077gy.png

[Grumph]

The Sinclair would only work if I built a good engine for it....

The story about Derry Preston-Cobb's Invacar is funny. It had a full house works scrambles engine fitted.
Reputedly capable of well over 80mph.

None of the works riders would even get into it - yet they were always pressing journalists to road test it.

None ever did.

[husaberg]

Maybe the thunderbolt..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFdBcYN3sNw

[dangerous]

Not really that optimistic, how many do you see for sale and what money do they want for them ? if you really wanted one you'd pay that

its fucked... the state of the engine is any ones guess if it ca even be used...

as for this... shit it was half that NEW and a 500 euro sport was cheaper...https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5093394874




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY2jvzAWR2k

WTF... the 250 that became a 360... its a 2 stroke that sounds like a 4 strok... that said great watch

[F5 Dave]

My bro had one just like this. Well, maybe not quite like this.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5095213505

To be fair he seems to have original parts, maybe in good order. But the question is. . WHY???:weird:

[Grumph]

My bro had one just like this. Well, maybe not quite like this.


https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5095213505

To be fair he seems to have original parts, maybe in good order. But the question is. . WHY???:weird:

No, the question is WTF ? Did you blank out the price Dave ?

[F5 Dave]

The Brits go silly for them. Never really seen the appeal. A very nice lass had one down here. She was besotted. Fair enough. But her BF had a 400 Triple which was more appealing. Sure smelt better.

Bear in mind I had a GS550 at the time.

[husaberg]

No, the question is WTF ? Did you blank out the price Dave ?
For that price I would expect to see the FVQ shocks at least replaced with period correct Konis if not Ohins off the EL original

[HenryDorsetCase]

No, the question is WTF ? Did you blank out the price Dave ?

It was originally $12k. Presumably someone has made him an offer and he has yeeted the price so it can end or be withdrawn unsold so he doesnt have to pay tardme fees.

There was a red one on there very recently at $15k.

They are a lovely little bike and I regret selling mine. Having said that not enough to buy another.


Luckily he has another. It's almost as cool:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5095168691

[pete376403]

For that price I would expect to see the FVQ shocks at least replaced with period correct Konis if not Ohins off the EL original

Cycle magazine opined the FVQ meant fade very quickly

[husaberg]

Cycle magazine opined the FVQ meant fade very quickly
They were to polite i always thought it was "Fucked Very Quick.

Those on S models XL only lasted about 2 hours...

[F5 Dave]

My bro also had an XL250S at the time.

I later had an XR250A. It was shit.

[Grumph]

It was originally $12k. Presumably someone has made him an offer and he has yeeted the price so it can end or be withdrawn unsold so he doesnt have to pay tardme fees.

There was a red one on there very recently at $15k.

They are a lovely little bike and I regret selling mine. Having said that not enough to buy another.


Luckily he has another. It's almost as cool:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5095168691

Those 250's and the swollen pustulent 400 twins were never more than basic transport.

The small fours can be made to go and look good too. One i built earlier, now racing in Oz. Quite successfully too. 465cc

[pritch]

That seems a lot even for a 500. The 400s never appealed, it's not quite all there iyswim.

[F5 Dave]

This needs a fairing angled like a breaching dolphin, :Punk:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5095168691

[F5 Dave]

A mate had one if these as a plaything. Chap here seems to be confused. It's not a HRC homoligation WSB.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5102082195

Somehow it's LAMs he says. Yes. That's because it is a jap import 400.<_<

[onearmedbandit]

A mate had one if these as a plaything. Chap here seems to be confused. It's not a HRC homoligation WSB.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/honda/listing/5102082195

Somehow it's LAMs he says. Yes. That's because it is a jap import 400.<_<

The VFR400 NC30 was an import too but isn't LAMs. Along with all the other 'race rep' 400's of the time.

[F5 Dave]

A mate is currently recommissioning / riding her Dad's one. Looks mint.

No idea what is LAMs, to old to care about that malarkey. Just know what obviously fails the criteria with mods.