Optimistic sellers

[TheDemonLord]

Is that all? That'sactuallyfuckall,I'vehad25yearoltwinsthatwoul drevthathigh,theRVFasdiscussedgoeswayhigher

That's a really poor showing and if you really think 13k is a worthy rpm, you need to cast down your beige idols.

I'm making close to 200 Bhp at 13,000 RPM and can go all the way up to 300 Kph (well, if I had the testicles to get there)

[bogan]

I'm making close to 200 Bhp at 13,000 RPM and can go all the way up to 300 Kph (well, if I had the testicles to get there)

Goodness, your false prophets really have done a number on you. Power and speed are things any configuration engine can have (what are motogp bikes running again?), but they're often simply used as abstract figures (I'm guessing it very rare you do achieve any of those three things) used to sell substandard gods...

[TheDemonLord]

Goodness, your false prophets really have done a number on you. Power and speed are things any configuration engine can have (what are motogp bikes running again?), but they're often simply used as abstract figures (I'm guessing it very rare you do achieve any of those three things) used to sell substandard gods...

It gives me a raging hardon and that is good enough for me....

but the reality is that every Vtwin I have ridden, I haven't enjoyed as much as I enjoyed the comparable IL4 - nothing against Vtwins, they just aren't my thing

[imdying]

the reality is that every Vtwin I have riddenWhich v-twins have you ridden?

[TheDemonLord]

Which v-twins have you ridden?

Vstrom 1000,
Honda VTR250
Hyobag thing (it was a 250)
a 400 CC Vtwin Loan Bike (can't remember what it was)
Oh and an 800 CC Bonneville (okay its an Inline Twin, but Potato, Potarto)


Not a huuuuuge selection granted, but enough to know that I prefer my IL4's

[imdying]

Vstrom 1000,
Honda VTR250
Hyobag thing (it was a 250)
a 400 CC Vtwin Loan Bike (can't remember what it was)
Oh and an 800 CC Bonneville (okay its an Inline Twin, but Potato, Potarto)Ahh, makes sense now.

[TheDemonLord]

Ahh, makes sense now.

If you have any I should get my leg over that I might like - I'm always keen to try and wrangle a 'test ride' from a bike shop.

I should also put that I did enjoy some of those on my list (the Vstrom and the 400cc loan bike were both very good bikes)

[sugilite]

I agree. They are nice bikes. Suited to a small rider that spends time on twisty roads. Not quite big enough to compete with a larger modern bike for most riders that could spend the same money on a newer bike at the same value.

I have won hill climbs on both a Honda NC24 (VFR400) and a Yamaha FZR1000 and I'm 6'6. I remember I did the Admiral Road hill climb at Gladstone in the days before the cliff hanger. Other riders laughed at me as I got the FZR1000 out the back of the van - they told me "You will never get out of 2nd gear". They were right if course, did not stop me beating 2nd place by over 2 seconds on a course only 30 odd seconds long haha. Mind you I had developed a unique style from blasting big bore blasters through the Akatarawas many, many times. I called the style "Controlled Crashing" :lol:

The NC24 maybe roomier than the RVF, but I never had any issues with it size wise despite my height.


It was built to go long distance into a head wind ... a "decent" gorge ride can be done. But it is hard on the rider ... more than the bike. Especially if the suspension hasn't been upgraded.

I climb on the FJ and head for Picton for coffee ... then go home (up one coast and down the other). Try THAT on a VFR400 and see how you feel at the end of it ... ;)

I have done numerous 1000 km rides on both big bore IL4's and a VFR400 and I did not really notice that much difference fatigue wise - but I would still choose a big bore if push comes to shove.

[James Deuce]

RVF and NC24 are quite similar ergonomically. I'm broken and I commuted to Wellington from Greytown on an RVF infrequently without any issues. Bit stiff in the legs to move around much with my legs bent up a bit though. Need to do more squats.

I used to ride my NC24 to and from Auckland a few times a year without issue as well, but I wasn't broken then.

[bogan]

Vstrom 1000,
Honda VTR250
Hyobag thing (it was a 250)
a 400 CC Vtwin Loan Bike (can't remember what it was)
Oh and an 800 CC Bonneville (okay its an Inline Twin, but Potato, Potarto)


Not a huuuuuge selection granted, but enough to know that I prefer my IL4's

To put it into perspective, I'd rate the VTR highest on that list for v-twin riding experience. Ride some good ones SP2 is a good start... and get back to us.

What's your V4 list like?

[F5 Dave]

Derestricted RGV250 VG23. There's a good V twin.

[FJRider]

I have done numerous 1000 km rides on both big bore IL4's and a VFR400 and I did not really notice that much difference fatigue wise - but I would still choose a big bore if push comes to shove.

I have completed 6 Chatto Creek 1000 mile rally's ... thats 1635 km's ... within 24 hours. One on an XJ750 and five on the FJ1200. My preference would be the FJ ... definitly.

If I had the fuel range ... I could easily go from Paradise to Christchurch in top gear. That includes over the Lindis pass ... and the VFR400 might struggle in top gear all the way over that pass.

[FJRider]

And you need some time on a GP125. At least it will sound good. Then we`ll move you up to an RZ350 and you will find they tour in comfort, but handle better than a behemoth. and sound better and have a fun power delivery but still enough midrange.

I tour (usually) two up with the panniers full ... and a tank bag (MY space) ... an RZ350 (or the rider) might struggle to cope ...

I did hanker for an RZ350 when they came out ... but it passed ...

[FJRider]

If I owned one, I would go to Akaroa on my RVF for a coffee....then go home with a smile pasted all over my face....try THAT on a FJ and see how how you feel at the end of it.....

I've been in there about a half dozen times already on the FJ ... (during both night and day times) whats the issue ... ?? :scratch:

There are worse bits of road south of Kaikoura ... and over the Arthurs pass. Not to mention down southern Westland ... Try those places on your RVF ...


Your point is ... ??? :confused:

[F5 Dave]

I tour (usually) two up with the panniers full ... and a tank bag (MY space) ... an RZ350 (or the rider) might struggle to cope ...

I did hanker for an RZ350 when they came out ... but it passed ...
Maybe you should buy a nice sensible car. And a onesie for comfort.

[nzspokes]

I cannot hear you over the sound of 13,000 RPM

Oh you have much to learn. Busa at high rpm is mocked by my bike at idle. Then ripped apart by 5000, and a crying mess by 9000.

[nzspokes]

I'm making close to 200 Bhp at 13,000 RPM and can go all the way up to 300 Kph (well, if I had the testicles to get there)

And no corners.

[FJRider]

Maybe you should buy a nice sensible car. And a onesie for comfort.

Does it work for you .. ?? :innocent:

[TheDemonLord]

To put it into perspective, I'd rate the VTR highest on that list for v-twin riding experience. Ride some good ones SP2 is a good start... and get back to us.

What's your V4 list like?

VFR800 is really the only one so far

[HenryDorsetCase]

VFR800 is really the only one so far

I had a look at a brand new VFR800 yesterday. they're making or bringing them in again. Lovely bike. It was red too. bright red.

[F5 Dave]

[QUOTI =FJRider;Does it work for you .. ?? :innocent:[/QUOTE]
Well i did own one breifly in the late 80s. It was a 3.3 vaxhaul victor.

Actually i do own a onesie now i think of it, but its leather and has kneesliders.

[Tazz]

I take it you've yet to have a decent ride on a 100+hp bike?

Yep, to be fair that's correct. Few 'big' bikes but nothing over 650cc that would be classed as a high/race performance. After a tough life lesson a friend went through when were were teens I'm reluctant to ride/drive anything hard that I can't afford to replace.
In saying that I learnt the slow vehicle fast thing from cars to begin with. Friends have sunk tens of thousands of dollars (of regret) into vehicles that can only be used to it's full potential on a track, so why bother?


Everyone is free to ride what they like. I had fun on a low hp t100 bonnie for a year due to the feeling of riding hard without going fast.
The fact still remains most riders reaching a full licence search a larger bike than a sports 400 unless they have another bike and want a screaming play machine for less dollars than 7grand up.

There is always going to be exceptions but this bike as shown is neither original or lams legal so has a limited market audience in the price bracket.

Tell me why I couldn't have the same fun on this bike for a fraction of the price.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-892930843.htm

Nothing wrong with that one :D You were saying 7k was not good spending specifically because it was a wee machine.

[yevjenko]

Vstrom 1000,
Honda VTR250
Hyobag thing (it was a 250)
a 400 CC Vtwin Loan Bike (can't remember what it was)
Oh and an 800 CC Bonneville (okay its an Inline Twin, but Potato, Potarto)


Not a huuuuuge selection granted, but enough to know that I prefer my IL4's
Damn, you need to ride a proper v twin :)

[bogan]

VFR800 is really the only one so far

So how come that didn't make it to your V list but a fucking parallel twin did? they only invented parallel twins due to a gross surplus of balance shafts they needed to be rid of :innocent:

[mossy1200]

Nothing wrong with that one :D You were saying 7k was not good spending specifically because it was a wee machine.

Kind of.
Im saying that 7k buys you more bike for that price if your not specifically after that model.
If your after that model then your going to expect an original bike if paying that price.
Its not the bike its the price.
If I owned a cruiser for example and wanted a sports bike also I would buy the nc30 for 3k as it would offer the same riding experience for a fraction of the cost. If my budget was 7kish idd buy the ducati 748 for 7kish over the rvf. More bike same dollars.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-929848124.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-634093630.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-891195644.htm

3 748s priced under the value the rvf is asking of 8.5k
Bikes idd rather own and I would class as capable in the handling to ride in on a twisty road if that's the purpose.

[SVboy]

I've been in there about a half dozen times already on the FJ ... (during both night and day times) whats the issue ... ?? :scratch:

There are worse bits of road south of Kaikoura ... and over the Arthurs pass. Not to mention down southern Westland ... Try those places on your RVF ...


Your point is ... ??? :confused:

Sorry, I must be being a bit oblique. I am sure your FJ is a fabulous tourer, but for genuine fun and competence in tight twisties it simply is not the weapon of choice. You are not being honest if you don't think an RVF would be more fun in all of the rides you suggest. Sounds like our definitions of fun on a bike might differ.

[mossy1200]

Sorry, I must be being a bit oblique. I am sure your FJ is a fabulous tourer, but for genuine fun and competence in tight twisties it simply is not the weapon of choice. You are not being honest if you don't think an RVF would be more fun in all of the rides you suggest. Sounds like our definitions of fun on a bike might differ.

Its very likely. Differing riders and styles and choice of bike will be different.
I like both styles but the 400 punch leaving corners isn't big enough for me. Fun to ride a few times but couldn't be my primary ride.
Could be that you need ride 35mins from Welly just to reach the hill.
Might be different if I lived next to the hill.

[FJRider]

Sorry, I must be being a bit oblique. I am sure your FJ is a fabulous tourer, but for genuine fun and competence in tight twisties it simply is not the weapon of choice. You are not being honest if you don't think an RVF would be more fun in all of the rides you suggest. Sounds like our definitions of fun on a bike might differ.

My budget does not extend to a second bike ... and the main use I have for the FJ is long distance touring. For which ... I find adequate.


Different horses for different courses ... and I cope with the roads I encounter ... to the best of my ability. And ... still enjoy every minute of it ...

[FJRider]

Could be that you need ride 35mins from Welly just to reach the hill.
Might be different if I lived next to the hill.

The Kawerau Gorge is a 5 minute ride away ... and the Crown Range road is a further 30 minutes away ... and the FJ does both well.

I go with what I have ... and enjoy ..

[Ender EnZed]

Sports bike vs straight line super tanker, one will be more fun than the other.......oh your sig shows you have a Hayabusa, you know what I am saying then!

A smaller, lighter bike is always going to be more fun in the twisties. But even Goldwing riders prefer twisties to long, boring straights.

Regardless of what you're riding, there's no downside to a good road. A bigger, heavier bike is "less good" in plenty of situations but it's only ever "bad" when you're trying to park on a slope. When you're on a small, cramped sportsbike there can be a significant downside to riding on a boring road.

[SVboy]

Lol! You two gotta lighten up! I have an FZ1 for big bike fun, a GXSR600 for cornering fun and a motard for shits n giggles.... Covering all bases!

[Ender EnZed]

I have an FZ1 for big bike fun, a GXSR600 for cornering fun and a motard for shits n giggles.

I sure as shit can't fault that set up.

But, if you're only playing with one bike, you may as well go big.

[sidecar bob]

W..t.f? $3000 for the bike, $15,000 for the life changing expierence.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-930203027.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

W..t.f? $3000 for the bike, $15,000 for the life changing expierence.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-930203027.htm

Beat me to it. What a fucking tossbag the seller is.

[Pumba]

W..t.f? $3000 for the bike, $15,000 for the life changing expierence.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-930203027.htm

And that is not even is reserve. Looks like he as just taken the top end guide price of 12,000GBP and converted it to NZD. Not a bad return for a bike you won in a raffle

[Pumba]

So just to recap, because there as been a bit of lively debate for the last 8 pages


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-924567681.htm

Not optimistic as such just my "I would fucking love to own a Vincent" tribute.

What do we reckon it's worth peeps?

Top bid $78K. Reserve was $90K. Was offered post auction to watchers and bidders for $85k.


Fwiw the old fella rang back after having a gander at the auction,all good with the Vincent and the numbers are correct,here nor there really but the "new front rim" is the wrong size...apparently.Rang his mate that currently has a couple who confirmed numbers etc etc and when asked what he thought on a fair sale price said 80k.

Your "old fella's mate" was pretty much on the money.

[mossy1200]

W..t.f? $3000 for the bike, $15,000 for the life changing expierence.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-930203027.htm

That's never going to sell at that price. He wasted $50.00 on a ticket for a bike he doesn't want.
I just had to ask a question on the auction.

"Have you set the price high because it is already sold? Would you take 2k. Thanks. "

[Voltaire]

Triumph Thruxton, 35K worth double with improvements.:eek5:

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/402346341.jpg


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-929691602.htm

[yevjenko]

Triumph Thruxton, 35K worth double with improvements.:eek5:


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-929691602.htm
You have to love this thread...

Maybe he got his stock number and his price confused ;)

[Laava]

But they make it sound like an easy buy with this line;
with possibly a low deposit of only $3540.5 and $292.22 per week on our easy in-store finance.

[JATZ]

But they make it sound like an easy buy with this line;
with possibly a low deposit of only $3540.5 and $292.22 per week on our easy in-store finance.

I wonder if that's a 3 yr term ?? :scratch:

That'd make it a shade under 50k :2thumbsup

[mossy1200]

But they make it sound like an easy buy with this line;
with possibly a low deposit of only $3540.5 and $292.22 per week on our easy in-store finance.

$300 per week finance. Do people that can afford that need to borrow money to buy a toy?

House in some towns would cost less to repay a mortgage per week with a low deposit?

[FJRider]

$300 per week finance. Do people that can afford that need to borrow money to buy a toy?

House in some towns would cost less to repay a mortgage per week with a low deposit?

That would be for two .. to three years ... usually. You wont pay your house off in that time.

[mossy1200]

That would be for two .. to three years ... usually. You wont pay your house off in that time.

Its the size of the weekly expenditure though.
You would expect most people buying that kind of value bike would have bigger deposits I guess.

[Laava]

Anyone who buys that bike for that price is going to be making deposits on the bike IYKWIM

[FJRider]

Its the size of the weekly expenditure though.
You would expect most people buying that kind of value bike would have bigger deposits I guess.

And with payments like that ..if they bin it ... they end up with nothing.

Not even the wreck ...

[Banditbandit]

W..t.f? $3000 for the bike, $15,000 for the life changing expierence.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-930203027.htm

The bike is stunning .. I'd love to own it ... the price is way over the fucking top ... One third that price and he MIGHT get it ... even then images of hills, pushing and shit spring to mind ..

[HenryDorsetCase]

Triumph Thruxton, 35K worth double with improvements.:eek5:



http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-929691602.htm

I see Ohlins forks, big-ass Brembo brakes, some sort of custom triple clamp, ohlins shocks and either PVM or Marchesini wheels. the rear wheel looks fatter than stock implying work to the swingarm and frame (maybe) and the oil cooler is larger than stock, perhaps implying more horsepowers. That pipe is very cool too.

Put it this way: I am a middle aged office dwelling fart, and I want to "re live my yoof" I ride a stock Bonnie or Thrux and go "yeah, it isnt quite doing it for me ... but I dont want a Harley I want to go round the odd corner or two and be able to stop in less than the length of the Queen Mary. Oh look, for the same money as a Harley I can get this? where do I sign?" Usually those guys dont need finance and there should be wiggle room for cash.

Those forks have got to be $8k a pair retail right?

[HenryDorsetCase]

The bike is stunning .. I'd love to own it ... the price is way over the fucking top ... One third that price and he MIGHT get it ... even then images of hills, pushing and shit spring to mind ..

same.

It reminds me a lot of an XLCR Harley.

He should put it on a $1 reserve then you and I can battle it out.....

[Banditbandit]

I see Ohlins forks, big-ass Brembo brakes, some sort of custom triple clamp, ohlins shocks and either PVM or Marchesini wheels. the rear wheel looks fatter than stock implying work to the swingarm and frame (maybe) and the oil cooler is larger than stock, perhaps implying more horsepowers. That pipe is very cool too.

Put it this way: I am a middle aged office dwelling fart, and I want to "re live my yoof" I ride a stock Bonnie or Thrux and go "yeah, it isnt quite doing it for me ... but I dont want a Harley I want to go round the odd corner or two and be able to stop in less than the length of the Queen Mary. Oh look, for the same money as a Harley I can get this? where do I sign?" Usually those guys dont need finance and there should be wiggle room for cash.

Those forks have got to be $8k a pair retail right?

Yeah .. it's a nice bike .. but they only, in the end, run 68horses ... my Suzie 650 is way above that ... and it cost me a shit load less than this ... for fun value I'l take the mid-range bandit any day of the week ..

[98tls]

I see Ohlins forks, big-ass Brembo brakes, some sort of custom triple clamp, ohlins shocks and either PVM or Marchesini wheels. the rear wheel looks fatter than stock implying work to the swingarm and frame (maybe) and the oil cooler is larger than stock, perhaps implying more horsepowers. That pipe is very cool too.

Put it this way: I am a middle aged office dwelling fart, and I want to "re live my yoof" I ride a stock Bonnie or Thrux and go "yeah, it isnt quite doing it for me ... but I dont want a Harley I want to go round the odd corner or two and be able to stop in less than the length of the Queen Mary. Oh look, for the same money as a Harley I can get this? where do I sign?" Usually those guys dont need finance and there should be wiggle room for cash.

Those forks have got to be $8k a pair retail right?

Fwiw pretty sure there Carraozzeria rims as on my TL.Nice looking bike and if someones got that sorta cash for a bike then good luck to em hope whoever buys it enjoys it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah .. it's a nice bike .. but they only, in the end, run 68horses ... my Suzie 650 is way above that ... and it cost me a shit load less than this ... for fun value I'l take the mid-range bandit any day of the week ..

Richard Pollock (Mule motorcycles) is on the record as saying that motor is good for 95RW HP. He is not known as a bullshitter.

Like everything though innit: speed costs money: how fast can you afford to go?

[Rcktfsh]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-929691602.htm

Whats with the "Shuzi"on the tank, isn't that the name of the snake oil bracelets Gary Goodfellow pedals? Appears to be their logo as well.

[mossy1200]

Richard Pollock (Mule motorcycles) is on the record as saying that motor is good for 95RW HP. He is not known as a bullshitter.

Like everything though innit: speed costs money: how fast can you afford to go?

I think the bikes quite well done. Other than the red I would get tempted by it if money wasn't an issue. Bet it handles and stops well. Im not sure if its going to sell and 29990 would make it more attractive.

Issue would be if you could afford to pay 35k for it would you buy a new Norton instead?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-845079906.htm

[98tls]

I think the bikes quite well done. Other than the red I would get tempted by it if money wasn't an issue. Bet it handles and stops well. Im not sure if its going to sell and 29990 would make it more attractive.

Issue would be if you could afford to pay 35k for it would you buy a new Norton instead?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-845079906.htm

The Norton for me in a heartbeat...mind you that fugly exhaust would need to go so there more $

[Drew]

I see Ohlins forks, big-ass Brembo brakes, some sort of custom triple clamp, ohlins shocks and either PVM or Marchesini wheels. the rear wheel looks fatter than stock implying work to the swingarm and frame (maybe) and the oil cooler is larger than stock, perhaps implying more horsepowers. That pipe is very cool too.

Put it this way: I am a middle aged office dwelling fart, and I want to "re live my yoof" I ride a stock Bonnie or Thrux and go "yeah, it isnt quite doing it for me ... but I dont want a Harley I want to go round the odd corner or two and be able to stop in less than the length of the Queen Mary. Oh look, for the same money as a Harley I can get this? where do I sign?" Usually those guys dont need finance and there should be wiggle room for cash.

Those forks have got to be $8k a pair retail right?
"Wiggle room for cash"?

That makes no sense. The shop makes more money on finance deals.

[mossy1200]

"Wiggle room for cash"?

That makes no sense. The shop makes more money on finance deals.

Its a funny thing though. The buyer believes he/she has upper hand with cash to spend. The buyer that needs to lend does not believe.

Shops know this and treat the cash buyer like a fund that can walk away. They treat a finance buyer as a customer who cant afford to by privately.

[Ocean1]

"Wiggle room for cash"?

That makes no sense. The shop makes more money on finance deals.

And it was the financial arm of HD that apparently came close to closing their doors during the GFC.

[98tls]

Its a funny thing though. The buyer believes he/she has upper hand with cash to spend. The buyer that needs to lend does not believe.

Shops know this and treat the cash buyer like a fund that can walk away. They treat a finance buyer as a customer who cant afford to by privately.

Back in the day people wanting finance got the red carpet rolled out all the way to the finance managers door...longer the better,chuck in a few warrantys and everybodys smiling.

[F5 Dave]

Bird in the hand. . . Playing the long game is all very well but cashflow is king so you need to have a spread of quick and slow money. The more the finance will throw you straight away the more you will pay for it.

[Smifffy]

W..t.f? $3000 for the bike, $15,000 for the life changing expierence.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-930203027.htm

"You may have seen me riding it around Ponsonby or Grey Lynn or Herne bay........."

[Drew]

Bird in the hand. . . Playing the long game is all very well but cashflow is king so you need to have a spread of quick and slow money. The more the finance will throw you straight away the more you will pay for it.

The shop get their money straight away. Including a kick back on the interest. They don't give a shit how ya pay for it. Finance term means squat to them.

[Crasherfromwayback]

"You may have seen me riding it around Ponsonby or Grey Lynn or Herne bay........."

When I go cottaging.

[sidecar bob]

When I go cottaging.

Cool, now I know what cottaging is, & yes, you're probably correct.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Cool, now I know what cottaging is, & yes, you're probably correct.



The English are weird...... "cottaging" and "dogging"

[husaberg]

The English are weird...... "cottaging" and "dogging"

I understand the English are revolting
Take that which ever way you wish.

[mossy1200]

When I go cottaging.

Had to look that up. You learn something new everyday. Not all days are equal.

[husaberg]

Had to look that up. You learn something new everyday. Not all days are equal.
Those English go yomping as well.

[mossy1200]

Those English go yomping as well.

Ill check that out tomorrow if I am stuck for my fix of education.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Those English go yomping as well.

I thought that was specific to the Royal Marines? - In that that is the only context I have ever heard that word

[husaberg]

I thought that was specific to the Royal Marines? - In that that is the only context I have ever heard that word

Pretty sure most of'm were Brits.

[Banditbandit]

Richard Pollock (Mule motorcycles) is on the record as saying that motor is good for 95RW HP. He is not known as a bullshitter.

Like everything though innit: speed costs money: how fast can you afford to go?

I can afford to reach 200mph ... I choose not to ... (I could pay cash for a ZX14 brand new )

1) I realize I would probably die on a bike that fast (I'm a old speed freak and on the open roads speed freaks on very fast bikes don't last long - I'm happy with my Bandits).

2) I'd rather spend $35grand on a new boat

3) My wife wants a new car before I can have another bike ..

[yevjenko]

Pretty sure most of'm were Brits.
I'm British and I've never heard of it... Maybe you have to be English

[husaberg]

I'm British and I've never heard of it... Maybe you have to be English
Maybe you are to young.
It was popularized during the 1982 Falklands Conflict coverage, they had to Yomp. The unplanned forced march was not planned. The top brass had planned to use Helicopters.
But some Argie buggers blew up all the helicopters on one of the freighters (11 helicopters) so they were forced to Yomp all the way over to the other side of the island.
It stands for your own marching pace.
I understand in true British style they whinged all the way, fuelled only by strong tea and thoughts of Princess Diana. On account of the untropicalness of the island no British solders succumbed to sunburn.
I can't remember how far it was but it was in full kit with ammo likely well over 30kg over hard boggy hilly terrain in near freezing conditions so it would not have been at all pleasant.
Edit it was 90km in three days with 36kg.

[TheDemonLord]

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+yomper&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIoc2t96OjxwIVBCCmCh04mglr&biw=1680&bih=939

I'm british, and I know what Yomping refers to...

[Smifffy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/6c3109328bc2dc5af5c9ffba5946cbb191d66440.jpg

Plus 10 mofarchar

[nzspokes]

Thats not Lams approved?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-933163703.htm

[TheDemonLord]

Thats not Lams approved?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-933163703.htm

(insert derogatory comment about a Hyobag not having enough power to pull the skin off of custard)

[Banditbandit]

Not !!! The GT650 is on the Prohibited list ..

[bingslayer]

its not, the Lams list one is a GT650PL, detuned specially for the lams list. I have sent him an message educating him, we will see if he listens:rolleyes:

[awayatc]

How likely is it that a cop would pick up on that.....?

Seller on TM is ranting his auction to self destruction...
leave him alone before he gets a heart attack

Potential buyers can check lams list themselves.......

[F5 Dave]

Yes he certainly is. Fast forward 4yrs when he's selling his Harley and even more angry and I'll informed.

[bingslayer]

holy shit, what a lil bitch! I bet that one out of 2 scenarios happened when he phoned, they asked if it was a pl and said an uneducated yes.

they told him it wasnt and he argued untill they hung up which means he won and was right.

[nzspokes]

How likely is it that a cop would pick up on that.....?

Seller on TM is ranting his auction to self destruction...
leave him alone before he gets a heart attack

Potential buyers can check lams list themselves.......

Wow. His head exploded. We are selling the exact same bike. No its not Lams approved.

In fact I think its really low to try and catch a new rider out like that. If they went to sit a licence on it they would be turned away.

Kinda like the guy selling a Hornet 250 on TM as a good bike that has a duff motor....

[Bikemad]

Not !!! The GT650 is on the Prohibited list ..

where is this list?

[WNJ]

But it comes with a L plate so it must be approved :killingme:nya:

[mossy1200]

where is this list?

The Prohibited list is a few 2 smokes that don't fall into the all 250cc class and everything not on the approved list.

[Bikemad]

The Prohibited list is a few 2 smokes that don't fall into the all 250cc class and everything not on the approved list.

oh ok......that explains why i couldn't find anything above 250 on the "prohibited" list as such........i can see why the seller is confused,though he still comes across as a bit of an agro not to bright plonker

[mossy1200]

oh ok......that explains why i couldn't find anything above 250 on the "prohibited" list as such........i can see why the seller is confused,though he still comes across as a bit of an agro not to bright plonker

Makes you wonder how many punters are riding bikes they shouldn't blissfully unaware.
If you got pulled and claimed your bike was LAMS approved I wonder what your chances are of getting away with it.

They should have a site that you put in the rego number like carjam and it tells you yes or no to LAMS approval.

[HenryDorsetCase]

How likely is it that a cop would pick up on that.....?

Seller on TM is ranting his auction to self destruction...
leave him alone before he gets a heart attack

Potential buyers can check lams list themselves.......

LOLOL excellent find. My question:

Best auction Q&A ever. Hyosung should send you a free bike because they will be so grateful anyone thinks one of their 650's is a "super" bike.

[nzspokes]

If you got pulled and claimed your bike was LAMS approved I wonder what your chances are of getting away with it.



I had thought they were going to put LAMS on the rego sticker things so it was easy for the coppers to check. We dont have any Lams bikes so I cant wander out and check. Our Hyobag 2006 GT650 does not have Lams on the tag for sure.

For a Hyobag It dont go that bad to be fair.

[nzspokes]

And for shits and giggles, the auction he bought it on. Where Cyclespot clearly state it is not Lams approved.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=908171450

[awayatc]

Read both auctions with ever increasing dismay.......

wannabeme is not only as thick as a runway approched sideways,

He is also deliberately misleading in his auction....

I humbly apologise and eat humble pie.....

please ad me as keen member to wannabeme's firing squad......

[Banditbandit]

where is this list?

Interesting ...I went here .. http://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/getting-a-licence/licences-by-vehicle-type/motorcycles/lams/lams-approved-and-prohibited-motorcycles/?make=hyosung#prohibited-motorcycles


but I can't see the difference between the tweo lists - in fact it appers to list both approved and prohibited in one4 list - maybe that's a list off those bikes they have tested to date???

Who knows ,,,

[MarkW]

The list isn't super clear but the top section with multiple brands listed are all the 250 models that are NOT Lams. Prohibited in other words. All other 250cc or smaller machines are approved.

The second list that is filtered by brand covers the specific models of motorcycle between 251 and 660 cc that ARE approved as Lams provided that they haven't been, in simple terms, modified since leaving the factory.

So if 250cc or less and not in the top list the bike is OK as Lams.
Over 250cc and under 660cc and specifically included in the bottom list makes the bike OK as Lams.

Over 250cc and under 660cc and NOT in the bottom list means NOT Lams.

Hope this helps.

[James Deuce]

What a combative arsehole. No one "interfered" with his trade, he was, at best, misinformed about its LAMS status.

I STILL haven't figured out who "LANS" is? Is that supposed to be LTNZ?

[TheDemonLord]

What a combative arsehole. No one "interfered" with his trade, he was, at best, misinformed about its LAMS status.

I STILL haven't figured out who "LANS" is? Is that supposed to be LTNZ?

Local Area NetworkS?

[Oscar]

Thats not Lams approved?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-933163703.htm

That is great!
TM just keeps giving...:lol:

[Tazz]

The list isn't super clear but the top section with multiple brands listed are all the 250 models that are NOT Lams. Prohibited in other words. All other 250cc or smaller machines are approved.

The second list that is filtered by brand covers the specific models of motorcycle between 251 and 660 cc that ARE approved as Lams provided that they haven't been, in simple terms, modified since leaving the factory.

So if 250cc or less and not in the top list the bike is OK as Lams.
Over 250cc and under 660cc and specifically included in the bottom list makes the bike OK as Lams.

Over 250cc and under 660cc and NOT in the bottom list means NOT Lams.

Hope this helps.

It is very clear. People just need to read the writing on the page (like you have) instead of skimming it.

[Oscar]

What a combative arsehole. No one "interfered" with his trade, he was, at best, misinformed about its LAMS status.

I STILL haven't figured out who "LANS" is? Is that supposed to be LTNZ?

Maybe they're the guys with the Supper bike?

[James Deuce]

Maybe they're the guys with the Supper bike?

I'd prefer morning tea with sausage rolls.

[WNJ]

I like this comment ,Seller Comment: in all honesty I find this bike to slow and under powered . 1:02 pm, Mon 17 Aug and in his first comment
no thanks need the money for Harley 12:40 pm, Fri 14 Aug seller thinks a Harley is faster :corn:

[awayatc]

Give me a tingle if you want your arse whipped.....
Harley slow ....?

[Mike.Gayner]

Been keeping an eye on these B-kings recently, this one is hilariously overpriced. Probably $5g too expensive, on a good day.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=927992389

[mossy1200]

Been keeping an eye on these B-kings recently, this one is hilariously overpriced. Probably $5g too expensive, on a good day.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=927992389

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-932497748.htm

That ones more realistic. He would want be under 14 at least to compete. There is a few B Kings for sale at reasonable prices and they all have a few extras.

When you can get a new busa for 19k how can a 5 year old second hand B King be worth 18k

[Mike.Gayner]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-932497748.htm

That ones more realistic. He would want be under 14 at least to compete. There is a few B Kings for sale at reasonable prices and they all have a few extras.

When you can get a new busa for 19k how can a 5 year old second hand B King be worth 18k

That one and this one are the best on Trademe at the moment:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=931305468

[mossy1200]

That one and this one are the best on Trademe at the moment:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=931305468

Personally not a fan of the design but the black is a winner looks wise. Bet they are fun to ride.

[mulletman]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-930424176.htm

"souped up Kim Basinger on two wheels" :laugh:

[Banditbandit]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-930424176.htm

"souped up Kim Basinger on two wheels" :laugh:

Yeah nice .. but $12five for an 18-year-old bike???

[imdying]

Yeah nice .. but $12five for an 18-year-old bike???
$12,500 was the retail price here in NZ back in 1996.

[TheDemonLord]

Yeah nice .. but $12five for an 18-year-old bike???

I think this is one of those 'but Honey - it is listed on TradeMe, I can't make them buy it' listings

[Drew]

Hang on. Does it have an 1100 in it or is he saying that's what they made the motor from?

[mulletman]

I think this is one of those 'but Honey - it is listed on TradeMe, I can't make them buy it' listings

I reckon too, see a few of those listings and think the same and fair enough !

[Mike.Gayner]

Close to home.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/175804-FS-2009-Honda-CB400SF-REVO-LAMS-EFI-VTEC?p=1130892443

$7,400, he must be having a laugh.

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-930424176.htm

"souped up Kim Basinger on two wheels" :laugh:

What a fucking cum dumpster.

[HenryDorsetCase]

What a fucking cum dumpster.

second worst film I have ever paid money to see: BLIND DATE with Bruce Willis and Kim Basinger.

the absolute worst? THE DA VINCI CODE. Fucking Tom Hanks. Not even saved by Audrey Tatou.

[Virago]

second worst film I have ever paid money to see: BLIND DATE with Bruce Willis and Kim Basinger.

the absolute worst? THE DA VINCI CODE. Fucking Tom Hanks. Not even saved by Audrey Tatou.

New thread topic right there.

[Laava]

second worst film I have ever paid money to see: BLIND DATE with Bruce Willis and Kim Basinger.

the absolute worst? THE DA VINCI CODE. Fucking Tom Hanks. Not even saved by Audrey Tatou.

Surf Nazis Must Die is the movie for you! You will have a new appreciation for just about anything after that!

[husaberg]

Surf Nazis Must Die is the movie for you! You will have a new appreciation for just about anything after that!

Bridges of Madison County

[Tazz]

Surf Nazis Must Die is the movie for you! You will have a new appreciation for just about anything after that!
It's no Sharknado...

[Crasherfromwayback]

second worst film I have ever paid money to see: BLIND DATE with Bruce Willis and Kim Basinger.

the absolute worst? THE DA VINCI CODE. Fucking Tom Hanks. Not even saved by Audrey Tatou.


New thread topic right there.

Lol. Yep. I was referring to the owner of the TM ad not KB.

[TheDemonLord]

second worst film I have ever paid money to see: BLIND DATE with Bruce Willis and Kim Basinger.

the absolute worst? THE DA VINCI CODE. Fucking Tom Hanks. Not even saved by Audrey Tatou.

For me it was "Into the Woods" - The only movie at a Cinema that I have fallen asleep during.

Unfortunatelt I didn't realise it was a Musical (and I am allergic to musicals)

[HenryDorsetCase]

Surf Nazis Must Die is the movie for you! You will have a new appreciation for just about anything after that!

Seen it. Not on your DVD either: it had a theatrical release in UnZud... pre VHS days too I think. It was OK from what I remember, for what it was

[Oscar]

Seen it. Not on your DVD either: it had a theatrical release in UnZud... pre VHS days too I think. It was OK from what I remember, for what it was


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yjDutKfpm1k/hqdefault.jpg
"Taste some o' Momma's home cookin', Adolf..." - BOOM -

[Oscar]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NDrXOackvOQ/TXSu0Y2KZFI/AAAAAAAACIU/bR0nO_FvdDk/s1600/vlcsnap-2011-03-07-00h39m45s151.png

I wanna buy a gun... Keep talkin' white trash, but I'm more interested in something that'll take the head off a honky at 20 paces!

[Laava]

Seen it It was OK from what I remember, for what it was

No. No it wasn't.
The highlight was the promo for it with the line, "she's big, she's bad, she's Leroys mumma!"

[Kickaha]

Surf Nazis Must Die is the movie for you! You will have a new appreciation for just about anything after that!
You'd appreciate stabbing yourself in the eyeballs after watching it for a start

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=933616424

The fastest LAMS bike you can buy.

[Bikemad]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=933616424

The fastest LAMS bike you can buy.

haven't we just been through all this with the other hyosung gt650 comet guy??????

[Laava]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=933616424

The fastest LAMS bike you can buy.

That's a bit like, "the cleverest retard"

[mossy1200]

haven't we just been through all this with the other hyosung gt650 comet guy??????

This is a lams version though.

Just not sure 54 claimed hp and 200kg will be that fast.

I was reading earlier about a disc that prevents butterflies opening more than 30%. Re-shape that and it becomes unrestricted and 80hp with no other changes. Probably as accurate as calling a hypadung fast.

[F5 Dave]

Since when has a fucked 11yr old dirty badly painted Ginny been worth more than $6 and a bag of salt and vinegar chups?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-934340402.htm

[F5 Dave]

And what could be more tedious than a v50? Well this for a starter, and all for the pleasure of 4 big ones
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-934297539.htm

[Virago]

A 1987 Jap import with 4,000 "original" km?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Who wants a Honda NTV650 for $400.00?

[bogan]

Who wants a Honda NTV650 for $400.00?

Probably, details?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Probably, details?

Lol. Just PM'd ya too. Rego has lapsed. The guy that bought it from TM has passed away and it was never put into his name, hence prob only good for spares unless you want to jump through the hoops to get it re reged.

[mossy1200]

Lol. Just PM'd ya too. Rego has lapsed. The guy that bought it from TM has passed away and it was never put into his name, hence prob only good for spares unless you want to jump through the hoops to get it re reged.

I had one of those and they are a good ride for what they are.
I sold mine for 2k very easily back pre lams days. I think they are on the list now.

If bogans not taking it idd like photos.

[nzspokes]

This is a lams version though.

Just not sure 54 claimed hp and 200kg will be that fast.

I was reading earlier about a disc that prevents butterflies opening more than 30%. Re-shape that and it becomes unrestricted and 80hp with no other changes. Probably as accurate as calling a hypadung fast.

Careful, those 79hp will rip your arms out. The one we are selling is a rocket I tell ya. Lifts its front wheel in every gear. Well as long as its first and you sit on the pillion seat.

Goes ok to be fair, not a rocket though.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I had one of those and they are a good ride for what they are.
I sold mine for 2k very easily back pre lams days. I think they are on the list now.

If bogans not taking it idd like photos.

I'll post a couple of pics for all of yas.

[mossy1200]

I'll post a couple of pics for all of yas.

Mine was one the guy had knocked of its stand. The clip-ons were $400 odd dollars and pegs were not available. He had broken the headlight also. I put triumph thruxton clip-ons on it and Kawasaki pegs and a cheap complete headlight then rode it a while and sold it. Repainted the tank also that had been dented.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mine was one the guy had knocked of its stand. The clip-ons were $400 odd dollars and pegs were not available. He had broken the headlight also. I put triumph thruxton clip-ons on it and Kawasaki pegs and a cheap complete headlight then rode it a while and sold it. Repainted the tank also that had been dented.

This one's a rusty pile of shit that hasn't been running for a year or two. But I figure even as spares it's worth $400.00.

[mossy1200]

This one's a rusty pile of shit that hasn't been running for a year or two. But I figure even as spares it's worth $400.00.

Yes if its got the higher handle bars, cast ally bars they are likely worth 200 alone each.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes if its got the higher handle bars, cast ally bars they are likely worth 200 alone each.

Nah. Tubular steel bars. Here it be... Tank has a small dimple above the "N" on the left side of it, pretty bloody good otherwise. Rest of the body work looks pretty good, gauges are good.

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[BMWST?]

The bike is stunning .. I'd love to own it ... the price is way over the fucking top ... One third that price and he MIGHT get it ... even then images of hills, pushing and shit spring to mind ..
what its a bloody sr400 with a few mods to make it a cafe racer look a like

[FJRider]

what its a bloody sr400 with a few mods to make it a cafe racer look a like

Better value for money than ...


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-935432922.htm

[nzspokes]

Better value for money than ...


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-935432922.htm

Go on, Buy Now. Imagine the sellers fee on that now.

[bogan]

Nah. Tubular steel bars. Here it be... Tank has a small dimple above the "N" on the left side of it, pretty bloody good otherwise. Rest of the body work looks pretty good, gauges are good.

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Yeh I'm not wanting that to sully my garage, (I forget the NTV was shafty in my earlier reply). The guy who was after the tank just changed his mind too. So it's all mossy's if he wants it.

[FJRider]

Go on, Buy Now. Imagine the sellers fee on that now.

It's just outside my budget ... :pinch:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeh I'm not wanting that to sully my garage, (I forget the NTV was shafty in my earlier reply). The guy who was after the tank just changed his mind too. So it's all mossy's if he wants it.

No worries mate.

[fokky]

wonder if its the graphics that added 3k to the value :facepalm:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-934297360.htm

[mossy1200]

No worries mate.

If its still doing nothing a little later on ill have a look. I think I only have enough coin to go to cold kiwi and do the gtr180 motor so it would need be later on before even worth looking at it. If your not quit of it in 4 weeks pm me.

Most likely you scrub rust away with scrunched up tin foil and $1 reserve it as an unknown project bike and it will go 600+ since its on lams list. 7 day auction and take the coins would be your quickest good return.

[98tls]

Hey M....what happened to the blue TLS you sent me the link to,did the thing sell and if so how much?

[jasonu]

Nah. Tubular steel bars. Here it be... Tank has a small dimple above the "N" on the left side of it, pretty bloody good otherwise. Rest of the body work looks pretty good, gauges are good.

315040315041315042315043315044

I am representing Prince Harry and if I promise to send you $1500 for it can you right away send $300 cash to my shipping agent in Nigeria?

[bogan]

wonder if its the graphics that added 3k to the value :facepalm:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-934297360.htm

Is that really a 2006 model? cos he looks about 20 years optimistic on the age too...

[mossy1200]

Hey M....what happened to the blue TLS you sent me the link to,did the thing sell and if so how much?

It wasn't on my watchlist so I cant tell you sorry.

[mossy1200]

Is that really a 2006 model? cos he looks about 20 years optimistic on the age too...

Age is fine. They are a Bandit Motor in a GS1000R replica style frame.

[JimO]

wonder if its the graphics that added 3k to the value :facepalm:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-934297360.htm
makes me larf the say selling because they have too many toys but may take a trade

[Crasherfromwayback]

wonder if its the graphics that added 3k to the value :facepalm:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-934297360.htm

I just sold my really tidy one for $3500.00. And it wasn't wanked up!

[mossy1200]

I just sold my really tidy one for $3500.00. And it wasn't wanked up!

You cant flood the market with sensibly priced good used bikes. Leave the guys that believe they have a one off gem collectable piece of motorcycle art and their inflated optimistic prices alone.

I wonder how hard it is to be a salesman selling bikes when customer believes their bike has the magic wow factor to be worth retail plus 60% as a trade in.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You cant flood the market with sensibly priced good used bikes. Leave the guys that believe they have a one off gem collectable piece of motorcycle art and their inflated optimistic prices alone.

I wonder how hard it is to be a salesman selling bikes when customer believes their bike has the magic wow factor to be worth retail plus 60% as a trade in.

Hahaha...it can be a tough time explaining it to them without insulting them. And I'll have a well priced 99 CBR600 to sell off shortly too.

[mossy1200]

Hahaha...it can be a tough time explaining it to them without insulting them. And I'll have a well priced 99 CBR600 to sell off shortly too.

Its actually interesting that several people can tell someone that they are asking way above some things value but the owner genuinely believes people should be lining up to hand over the money they are asking.
Whats even more interesting is how long they will hold the belief even though its not selling.
I track the bottom end trade me market and see an overpriced bike sit for 6 months at the same price.
I have a theory. If you overprice something enough a lot of people watch it to see if someone is silly enough to buy it. I think it feeds their false hope.

[Gremlin]

I have a theory. If you overprice something enough a lot of people watch it to see if someone is silly enough to buy it. I think it feeds their false hope.
It's because they look at TM, see what people are asking (ie, it hasn't actually sold) then add a % for their unique customisations...

[mossy1200]

It's because they look at TM, see what people are asking (ie, it hasn't actually sold) then add a % for their unique customisations...

Definitely take an inflated price and add inflation but maybe the fact people are watching the stupidity make them believe they are on the verge of success. People, when they get an offer will even state there is X number of people watching the auction so they will let it run.

[FJRider]

... People, when they get an offer will even state there is X number of people watching the auction so they will let it run.

Perhaps .... we should rerfer to those not as "Watchers" ... but instead .. as laughers ... ??? :laugh:

[BMWST?]

watchers may have some interest in the bike but arent always buyers.I had a lot of watchers and admirers when i sold a rare ish car but not one fronted up with the cash.In the end i sold to a car club guy for a pittance .

[husaberg]

You cant flood the market with sensibly priced good used bikes. Leave the guys that believe they have a one off gem collectable piece of motorcycle art and their inflated optimistic prices alone.

I wonder how hard it is to be a salesman selling bikes when customer believes their bike has the magic wow factor to be worth retail plus 60% as a trade in.


Hahaha...it can be a tough time explaining it to them without insulting them. And I'll have a well priced 99 CBR600 to sell off shortly too.

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[Drew]

I'm soooooo trying not to buy that NVT.

[husaberg]

I'm soooooo trying not to buy that NVT.

Don't fight it Drew everyone suspects that you ride a Honda Shaft.

[mossy1200]

I'm soooooo trying not to buy that NVT.

Bet you could get it down to $375.00
$25 buys a lot of tinfoil for rust removal.

[F5 Dave]

Bet you could get it down to $375.00
$25 buys a lot of tinfoil for rust removal.





The girl on the left is better than most of us could expect.


Oops, drunk and replying to wrong quote.

[babysteps]

Has this made an appearance yet?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-934560429.htm

[James Deuce]

Has this made an appearance yet?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-934560429.htm

LAMS approved. Lol.

[F5 Dave]

WOF approved triple LoL

Followed by. . . Opps a bump. I'm sure I'll land safely on the seat.


Seriously. What do you think would happen? It would be horrific. Bloodbath stuff. Tyres grip skin better than tarmac and are indiscriminate .

[Laava]

Jeepers! I would be expecting something special for 25k! That is more like 2.5k to the right person.

[mossy1200]

Jeepers! I would be expecting something special for 25k! That is more like 2.5k to the right person.

Like electrics, lights or a speedo?

[Laava]

Like electrics, lights or a speedo?

Holy fuck you are hard to please!:msn-wink:

[mossy1200]

Holy fuck you are hard to please!:msn-wink:

If I was spending 25k even the smallest details would be important.
Otherwise idd feel like I was buying an engine bolted to half a frame and a 1940s tractor seat.

[WNJ]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-937838915.htm

[nzspokes]

Im selling a cheap bike at the moment, the TM fucktards that come around are amazing. :tugger::brick:

[Virago]

LAMS approved. Lol.

Hahahaha. Get pulled over with an unregistered and completely unwarrantable bike - "But officer, it's LAMS approved."

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-937838915.htm


Brand new Dan moto aluminum weave exhaust and joiner pipe which removes the exhaust valves. (I have all of the original exhaust parts and exhaust valve cables).

Brand new front sprocket (-1 tooth) for better acceleration–still does 300kph easily only gets there quicker.Also easier to handle around town.

One of my favorite features on this beast is the electronic steering damper that I haven’t seen on any other bike and makes this superbike incredibly stable in the corners. This feature was introduced from the RC211V MotoGP machine. "


Gives gsxr R1 ‘s ninja s a thrashing

I would ask if its been crash damaged and repaired also. He seems to have hit his head a bit lately.

[mossy1200]

Im selling a cheap bike at the moment, the TM fucktards that come around are amazing. :tugger::brick:

I have sold plenty and no one has ever came and looked prior to bidding. Maybe im just lucky.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-923080615.htm

This is interesting. Even lists the value of the extras but wants to charge retail for a new bike plus value of extras plus some extra cash. Also surely a dealership must realise the extras legally take the LAMS approval away.:facepalm:

[FJRider]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-923080615.htm

This is interesting. Even lists the value of the extras but wants to charge retail for a new bike plus value of extras plus some extra cash. Also surely a dealership must realise the extras legally take the LAMS approval away.:facepalm:

As I recall ... except for those bikes on the Prohibited list ... all 250's are automatically on the LAM's list and do not have the same strict conditions regarding modifications ... as the bike OVER 250 cc are.

Hint ...


The following list of motorcycles with engine capacities between 251cc and 660cc – these motorcycles must be in standard form as produced by the manufacturer. They cannot be modified in any way to increase the power-to-weight ratio.

[mossy1200]

As I recall ... except for those bikes on the Prohibited list ... all 250's are automatically on the LAM's list and do not have the same strict conditions regarding modifications ... as the bike OVER 250 cc are.

Hint ...
This is on the same page as your quote just further down.


If you modify your motorcycle, it may not be approved

Any motorcycle modified in a way that increases its power-to-weight ratio is no longer LAMS-compliant, regardless of whether it appears on the list.

[FJRider]

This is on the same page as your quote just further down.


If you modify your motorcycle, it may not be approved

Any motorcycle modified in a way that increases its power-to-weight ratio is no longer LAMS-compliant, regardless of whether it appears on the list.

Have you noticed this bit ... ???



If there is a motorcycle you believe should be on the LAMS-approved list and it fits the primary criteria of being between 251cc and 660cc, and less than 150 kilowatts per tonne, you will need to submit a formal application to the Transport Agency for consideration. Vehicle specifications for the motorcycle should be gathered from your motorcycle manufacturer.

The LAM's system was introduced for the motorcycles other than the 250cc maximum under the previous regulations. You won't find any 250cc bike (or under) on any LAM's list.

[mossy1200]

Have you noticed this bit ... ???




The LAM's system was introduced for the motorcycles other than the 250cc maximum under the previous regulations. You won't find any 250cc bike (or under) on any LAM's list.

So your saying the word ANY only means 251-660cc and REGARDLESS means most times?
Remember its their written guidelines and it says ANY and its says REGARDLESS.


"ANY motorcycle modified in a way that increases its power-to-weight ratio is no longer LAMS-compliant, REGARDLESS of whether it appears on the list."


Its on the same page you took your quote from and im just pointing it out. Truth being I don't really care but a dealership would want to ensure they get it correct. Ticket time is like lottery time when it comes to getting pulled over. Outcome depends on popo interpretation and how much he wants to rape your pocket depending on the level of stupidity you were at causing your to be pulled over.

[nzspokes]

I have sold plenty and no one has ever came and looked prior to bidding. Maybe im just lucky.

You are. Both that have come round make me want to scratch my eyeballs out. :facepalm:

Yes the bike is 10 years old and has some wear. thats why its cheap. its not a new motorcycle.

Retards.

[FJRider]

Bike for sale ... advertised as being LAM's approved. A good start.

The model gets its LAMs approval from a throttle restricter plate fitted. All good ... so far ..

Owner states the restrictor plate has been removed ... but the new owner will get the restrictor plate on purchase of the bike and can fit it themselves ... :scratch: ?????

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-935028623.htm

[jasonu]

As I recall ... except for those bikes on the Prohibited list ... all 250's are automatically on the LAM's list and do not have the same strict conditions regarding modifications ... as the bike OVER 250 cc are.

Hint ...


This is on the same page as your quote just further down.


If you modify your motorcycle, it may not be approved

Any motorcycle modified in a way that increases its power-to-weight ratio is no longer LAMS-compliant, regardless of whether it appears on the list.


Have you noticed this bit ... ???




The LAM's system was introduced for the motorcycles other than the 250cc maximum under the previous regulations. You won't find any 250cc bike (or under) on any LAM's list.


So your saying the word ANY only means 251-660cc and REGARDLESS means most times?
Remember its their written guidelines and it says ANY and its says REGARDLESS.


"ANY motorcycle modified in a way that increases its power-to-weight ratio is no longer LAMS-compliant, REGARDLESS of whether it appears on the list."


Its on the same page you took your quote from and im just pointing it out. Truth being I don't really care but a dealership would want to ensure they get it correct. Ticket time is like lottery time when it comes to getting pulled over. Outcome depends on popo interpretation and how much he wants to rape your pocket depending on the level of stupidity you were at causing your to be pulled over.

Looks like the MNZ rule writers also wrote the LAMS rules...

[mossy1200]

Looks like the MNZ rule writers also wrote the LAMS rules...

If you don't know how to make a sensible rule write down some conflicting crap and let everyone else argue about it?

[Gremlin]

Im selling a cheap bike at the moment, the TM fucktards that come around are amazing. :tugger::brick:
When you have that, you realise why auctions like these exist:

[nzspokes]

I have sold plenty and no one has ever came and looked prior to bidding. Maybe im just lucky.

Well the last guy that came round was trying hard to get the price down. I turned up halfway through him being here. The bike wouldnt start but had been running when he got there and he heard it going. It was dark and he had a close look. Then when i came and it wouldnt go he went hard to try get the price down.

Turns out after a bit of fucking about the little fuck had wound the idle speed all the way out.

[Drew]

When you have that, you realise why auctions like these exist:

I really wanna buy some blocks, best sales pitch I've ever read...and I'm not even building anything!

[Banditbandit]

Very Nice

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/407086817.jpg



But 53grand ????


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-941443644.htm

[jasonu]

Very Nice

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/407086817.jpg



But 53grand ????


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-941443644.htm

More and better quality pix and a full and complete description would help. It is all about presentation and there is fuck all of that on this auction.

[mossy1200]

More and better quality pix and a full and complete description would help. It is all about presentation and there is fuck all of that on this auction.

Problem is that if I had the VERY big coins in my collection I would pay the 53k.
If 53k was a small amount in a very large account balance you would also.

[James Deuce]

Problem is that if I had the VERY big coins in my collection I would pay the 53k.
If 53k was a small amount in a very large account balance you would also.

7 or 8 years ago they were selling for $12-$14k Australian. $53k is mental. Low 20s, max.

[mossy1200]

7 or 8 years ago they were selling for $12-$14k Australian. $53k is mental. Low 20s, max.

Yup. That's why if its a tiny percentage of the monies you have you would consider it because your not likely to find another.
But if you care about using 53k like most people you wouldn't.

[mossy1200]

Ok, so what would a zero hour 500 MX bike be worth, made by Honda ?

Got one in the shed, guess it's a market call but interested in your opinions, '01 Cr500

No hurry to sell

$5 and a packet of chips

[HenryDorsetCase]

A Magni MV wouldnt even be that would it?



Also that blue R80G/S for six grand: go or no go?

[Oscar]

A Magni MV wouldnt even be that would it?



Also that blue R80G/S for six grand: go or no go?

Check carjam first.
It's probably a little expensive for the k's it's done.

[pritch]

Age is fine. They are a Bandit Motor in a GS1000R replica style frame.

And, IIRC, they cost about $9,990 new?

[James Deuce]

Yup. That's why if its a tiny percentage of the monies you have you would consider it because your not likely to find another.
But if you care about using 53k like most people you wouldn't.

Not following the logic. Most rich people aren't stupid.

[mossy1200]

Not following the logic. Most rich people aren't stupid.

So your really rich and you want something you may not get another chance to own but don't buy it even though financially it wont effect your account a lot?

[98tls]

Problem is that if I had the VERY big coins in my collection I would pay the 53k.
If 53k was a small amount in a very large account balance you would also.

True that but lets be fair if your pockets were that deep you would no doubt have some old stuff worthy of the 53k and far more desirable to ride (900SS bevel springs to mind..78..80) therefore the 53k tractor (lets be fair minus a few wheels thats all it is) is merely something to look at...briefly.

[TLDV8]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-RG500-/131591515245?hash=item1ea3772c6d




Very Nice

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/407086817.jpg



But 53grand ????


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-941443644.htm

[F5 Dave]

That's a stupid price to pay for an RG. But miles better value than the guzzly

[James Deuce]

So your really rich and you want something you may not get another chance to own but don't buy it even though financially it wont effect your account a lot?
Most rich people manage their cents and let the dollars take care of themselves. The only rich person I can see buying this is an instant Lotto or inheiritance millionaire who is destined to be working in a petrol station within a year.

[jasonu]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-RG500-/131591515245?hash=item1ea3772c6d

Makes this one look like a total bargain.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-Other-/141756671848?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=Xn%252BDKM1lmYdtAMy8DC2mVfdpAE0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

[TheDemonLord]

Most rich people manage their cents and let the dollars take care of themselves. The only rich person I can see buying this is an instant Lotto or inheiritance millionaire who is destined to be working in a petrol station within a year.

Or someone with OCD who needs to have a complete collection....

[James Deuce]

Or someone with OCD who needs to have a complete collection....

Those people are usually asset rich and cash poor with big mortgages

[jasonu]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-RG500-/131591515245?hash=item1ea3772c6d

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-Other-/201417184043?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2ee566532b&item=201417184043

[nodrog]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-943756494.htm

the buy now is way more than a new one.

[husaberg]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-943756494.htm

the buy now is way more than a new one.

You went off the wrist to fast, you missed his other listings
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-943756378.htm

[Banditbandit]

You went off the wrist to fast, you missed his other listings
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-943756378.htm

Such things should not exist ..

[OddDuck]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-927206568.htm

Well, he calls it a cafe racer. I think he's taken bits off three or four great bikes and trashed everything... I reckon it just looks horrible.

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-943756494.htm

the buy now is way more than a new one.

They're not fuel injected either.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-927206568.htm

I reckon it just looks horrible.


Likely will look good finished. Its the kind of thing I would buy if it was a lot cheaper. Swingarm isn't the best look for me though.

[F5 Dave]

Full LVV for self built frame as he seems to indicate. Pain to rego and unknown quality.

[husaberg]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-927206568.htm

Well, he calls it a cafe racer. I think he's taken bits off three or four great bikes and trashed everything... I reckon it just looks horrible.

You have to wonder why he never stated with a monster change tanks and seat and bars job done.

[Gremlin]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-927206568.htm

Well, he calls it a cafe racer. I think he's taken bits off three or four great bikes and trashed everything... I reckon it just looks horrible.
Smart fella. Cafe racers are selling for sooooo much. Hell, just sell the unfinished project for $$$ instead, that way, you don't have to put all that horrible effort stuff in!

:facepalm:

[mossy1200]

Smart fella. Cafe racers are selling for sooooo much. Hell, just sell the unfinished project for $$$ instead, that way, you don't have to put all that horrible effort stuff in!

:facepalm:

Not selling for enough. I lost 1800 on mine once finished:(

Maybe the problem was I finished it.

[Gremlin]

Not selling for enough. I lost 1800 on mine once finished:(

Maybe the problem was I finished it.
Don't go into business for yourself. You sold the last trailer at a loss as well :sunny:

[mossy1200]

Don't go into business for yourself. You sold the last trailer at a loss as well :sunny:

Yes. Your correct. Im starting to plan my next loss already. Might be easier just to chuck money at dirty girls at the strip clubs.

I do enjoy building things though.

[eldog]

Not selling for enough. I lost 1800 on mine once finished:(

Maybe the problem was I finished it.

nah the problem was you had to sell it.
you can never get back what you put into it unless you find someone who appreciates what yourve done or can afford it.

its the reward of setting a task, finding the bits and putting together a solution which can often be outside your comfort zone, which gives me satisfaction.
i find the same with riding, going different places outside my usual space. :niceone:

and if you want to give away money the dirty girls dont need it give it to us KBers were always spending $5 and bags of chips.

[husaberg]

Yes. Your correct. Im starting to plan my next loss already. Might be easier just to chuck money at dirty girls at the strip clubs.

I do enjoy building things though.

I suggest you invest in their boob jobs.

[mossy1200]

I suggest you invest in their boob jobs.

Most would get more tips if they invested in their own. Low talent levels unless your into the girl next door look.
I lie. The girls next door are very talented.

Last time I went strip club with workmates one of the girls told me to F off and leave because I had given my tipping dollars to the younger guys to use and none to give her.
These clubs were a lot better 20 year ago when it was about the performance and the entry fee was the main expense.

[eldog]

Most would get more tips if they invested in their own. Low talent levels unless your into the girl next door look.
I lie. The girls next door are very talented.

Last time I went strip club with workmates one of the girls told me to F off and leave because I had given my tipping dollars to the younger guys to use and none to give her.
These clubs were a lot better 20 year ago when it was about the performance and the entry fee was the main expense.

last time i was in a strip club the waitress was so much better looking than the stripper. could have ordered drinks all night.:shutup:

dont need fake boobs unless its a reconstruction.

[EJK]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/175993-FOR-SALE-quot-Honduki-quot-streetfighter-VFR750

$7.5k.

[Drew]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/175993-FOR-SALE-quot-Honduki-quot-streetfighter-VFR750

$7.5k.
Yeah, I reckon Steve is asking a bit much for it. He did wverything tidy as fuck, but it's $5k real world.

[OddDuck]

Likely will look good finished. Its the kind of thing I would buy if it was a lot cheaper. Swingarm isn't the best look for me though.

He's got a pic on the listing of what it'll look like finished - simulation and all that.

I still disagree, there's no clear vision of how the bike should look. It's visually very cluttered and there's no visual flow to it anywhere. It's separate areas flying in close formation rather than one coherent machine.

I also can't see it as a cafe racer. A musclebike, maybe, a streetfighter maybe, but to my mind a cafe racer is a very definite style and this isn't it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah, I reckon Steve is asking a bit much for it. He did wverything tidy as fuck, but it's $5k real world.

would he sell it for that do you think? No reason for asking....

[mossy1200]

Yeah, I reckon Steve is asking a bit much for it. He did wverything tidy as fuck, but it's $5k real world.

Followed it for a while to the Kiwi and its going, sounding and looking very good. Perhaps the correct buyer will pay almost the asking figure but is hard to find that person. NZ doesn't have as many buyers for one off machines as other countries yet.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This may've been listed already. But for a thousand dollars Aus, I'd want her to jump out off the page and fuck me all week as well.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-GSX-1100S-KATANA-POSTER-1981-ISSUE-GENUINE-MINT-CONDITION-NOS-/161817324017?

[Scubbo]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-944941394.htm :sleep:

[mossy1200]

This may've been listed already. But for a thousand dollars Aus, I'd want her to jump out off the page and fuck me all week as well.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-GSX-1100S-KATANA-POSTER-1981-ISSUE-GENUINE-MINT-CONDITION-NOS-/161817324017?

Are you sure 1981 was a while ago now. Im thinking she may have aged a bit.

[Drew]

would he sell it for that do you think? No reason for asking....No idea. He's selling his bucket as well, so I'm guessing he's got something planned.


Followed it for a while to the Kiwi and its going, sounding and looking very good. Perhaps the correct buyer will pay almost the asking figure but is hard to find that person. NZ doesn't have as many buyers for one off machines as other countries yet.
It's not my cup of tea, but if he can wait as long as he needs it might fetch $7k. There's nothing wrong with the bike, I'd just prefer it to have that front end and standard bodywork.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Are you sure 1981 was a while ago now. Im thinking she may have aged a bit.

Just take me a bit longer than usual to find the right wrinkle.

[jellywrestler]

Yeah, I reckon Steve is asking a bit much for it. He did everything tidy as fuck, but it's $5k real world.

top sales work too, AWARD WINNING....
it got 37 votes from a country of 23 million and won bike of the month

[jasonu]

Are you sure 1981 was a while ago now. Im thinking she may have aged a bit.

Probably still looks better than an old Kraptana.

[Drew]

Probably still looks better than an old Kraptana.

Wash your fucken mouth out!

[nzspokes]

This has to be a pisstake. http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=944225462

Ive found it cheaper to import used parts than buy local.

[mulletman]

This has to be a pisstake. http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=944225462

Ive found it cheaper to import used parts than buy local.

Reckon, more like a grand including carbs....whos gonna freight a heavy engine to B/B to start with ?

[Shaun Harris]

Reckon, more like a grand including carbs....whos gonna freight a heavy engine to B/B to start with ?



Agreed, Totally stupid price

[Banditbandit]

This may've been listed already. But for a thousand dollars Aus, I'd want her to jump out off the page and fuck me all week as well.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-GSX-1100S-KATANA-POSTER-1981-ISSUE-GENUINE-MINT-CONDITION-NOS-/161817324017?

Yeh - but a grand for a poster ???

[babysteps]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=945730335

Potential CASH buyer "Hey, can I come have a look over the weekend? Mark "

Seller "Hi, not into showing it. If you want it use the buy now button. I am happy to keep the bike if it does not sell."

Someone doesn't want to sell their bike.

[Mike.Gayner]

Considering my last experience buying a bike unseen, this seller can rape himself with rebar.

edit: The same model as this one, coincidentally.

[F5 Dave]

Haha. Yeah you might notice the bent frame or the engine sounds like two skeletons fucking in a trashcan.