If You Know What I Mean

[MSTRS]

Do I win a prize for being post 5000? If you know what I mean.

[Genie]

Do I win a prize for being post 5000? If you know what I mean.

Well, I was gonna bling ya, but i'm all out...if you know what I mean.

Congrats on that post, you did soooooo well. Here's a nice pic of a bike for you to look at instead

http://www.heatworld.com/upload/99739/images/1000029019.jpg

[MSTRS]

Perfect round town bike...if you know what I mean

[Maha]

Someone once said blondes have more fun if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

I know I'd have fun on that bike....if you know what I mean

[Coldrider]

The tassels need hair straighteners, if you know what I mean

[Genie]

Tassles? Did you see a Harley Rider? If you know what I mean

[FROSTY]

people actually RIDE harleys they don't push em --if ya know wot I mean

[Maha]

We not within sight of others anyway if you know what I mean.

[Edbear]

Neither Harley's nor blondes if you know what I mean

[Genie]

Would you ride a harley or a blonde? If you know what I mean

[Edbear]

Maybe a Harley riding blonde? if you know what I mean

[Ratti]

only if he has a nice bod and a beard...iykwim

[scissorhands]

and knows how to freudian slip you a good one...IYKWIM

[oldrider]

Is that the same as slipping into something a little more comfortable?.......if you know what I mean! :innocent:

[Eyegasm]

I slipped once... Gave me a boy, If you know what I mean.

[Ronin]

I slipped once... Gave me a boy, If you know what I mean.

You slipped into a boy once if you know what I mean?

[Eyegasm]

You slipped into a boy once if you know what I mean?

Ouch bro, that was low. I'm not Michael Jackson if you know what I mean.

[MSTRS]

Lowboy - tallboy - they're all the same when you crack your shin on one...if you know what I mean

[Genie]

damn sight worse when it's your pinky toe...if you know what I mean

[MSTRS]

Or just your pinky...if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

Not so good for tea and scones if you know what I mean

[Genie]

High tea anyone? If you know what I mean

[Maha]

I did a vinyl job for Lady Beattie once and she asked me if I would like to 'take tea' on the front porch if you know what I mean.

[oldrider]

Tea for one, tea for two, what did lady Beattie, do for you?.......if you know what I mean! :facepalm:

[Maha]

We spoke about David in Fiji helping to re-write the constitution at that time if you know what I mean.

[Maha]

5:30ish am and im about to get on the bike a ride to Rotorua for the day, tis chilly out but sun will shine when its good and ready if you know what I mean.:scooter:

[Genie]

WOW, how absolutely spiffing, enjoy the ride and the day young Maha....if you know what I mean

[oldrider]

Motorcycling...I remember when...but then...ACC ........ if you know what I mean! :bye: :crybaby:

[Genie]

Bollix....if you know what i mean

[Maha]

WOW, how absolutely spiffing, enjoy the ride and the day young Maha....if you know what I mean

Feck it was cold in tha 'am' but nice in the 'pm' for the retrun if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

Feck it was cold in tha 'am' but nice in the 'pm' for the retrun if you know what I mean.

Awesome to know you returned. The cold was to wake you up, that was such and early start....if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

Not too keen on cold wake ups if you know what I mean

[Genie]

Those cold wakes up are nearing to an end....if you know what I mean:woohoo:

[cc rider]

not if it involves having a cold nose... if you know what I mean :innocent:

[Maha]

Doesn't that mean you are healthy or is that when its wet if you know what I mean.

[Edbear]

A cold wet nose indicates a cold, doesn't it if you know what I mean?

[Genie]

A cold wet nose indicates a cold, doesn't it if you know what I mean?

either that or you're kissing a dog....if you know what I mean:shit:

[Edbear]

"Kissing a dog" could have a double meaning if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

It most certainly does....if you know what I mean

[MSTRS]

Your top lip is getting a little hairy. Tell for some Veet. If you know what I mean.

[MadDuck]

Takes more than a bit of Veet in some circumstances ..... if you know what I mean

[Maha]

Those Russian women eh if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

Yugoslavians' were pretty mushed up ... if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

Is that mushed or moustachio'd if you know what I mean?

[Genie]

Pistashcios would be the prefered option if you know what I mean

(I'm freakin' nuts)

[Edbear]

I'm picturing a mushy Pistashcio moustache if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

Is that like a banana smoothie one...if you know what I mean

[Maha]

I'm picturing a mushy Pistashcio moustache if you know what I mean.

Come on Ed! nuts on the top lip? you know what that means if you know what I mean.

[Edbear]

Come on Ed! nuts on the top lip? you know what that means if you know what I mean.

I swear I don't know what you mean if you know what I mean :innocent:

[MSTRS]

Me thinketh he doth protesteth too much...if you knowe what I mean

[Genie]

Me thinks it's too damn quiet around here and I should have a party....if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

I was about to do a search for this thread as it's been a bit quiet lately if you know what I mean

[Genie]

and then up pops a special Genie, you wished and I appeared....hey there's a rally in Nelson soon, I'm going to lose my virginity....if you know what I mean

[one fast tl1ooo]

I like a good rub .... if you know what I mean

[Genie]

I like a good rub .... if you know what I mean

Oh I so enjoy's a good rub....if you know what I mean

...but then again, doesn't everyone!!!

[one fast tl1ooo]

:woohoo: yes I know what I mean...if you know what I mean

[Genie]

and your avatar so loves a good rubbing...if you know what I mean:yes:

[MSTRS]

I like a good rub .... if you know what I mean

More than 2 and you're playing with it...it you know what I mean.

[Genie]

well what else would you be doing with it?....it you know what I mean:shit:

[Maha]

97-98-99 change hands and gain a stroke if you know what I mean.

[MSTRS]

Two nuns met a naked man. One fainted. The other had a stroke. If you know what I mean.

[Genie]

rub-a-dub-dub, two men in a tub....if you know what I mean

or was that three men????

(geez, some of the old nursery rhymes were a little bit dodgy)

[Maha]

I think the three men were blind weren't they if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

Is that the tailless ones?...if you know what i mean

[Maha]

Could always pin one on if you know what I mean.

[Edbear]

Seems we're exploring what men, mice and donkeys have in common if you know what I mean...

[Maha]

Must be the ears if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

I wouldn't mind exploring a few men....if you know what i mean

[Cheshire Cat]

I wouldn't mind exploring a few men....if you know what i mean

We all think you have made this VERY clear....if you know what i mean

[Genie]

We all think you have made this VERY clear....if you know what i mean

and you would know F all about anythng...if you know what I mean

(go back to your corner)

[Cheshire Cat]

and you would know F all about anythng...if you know what I mean

(go back to your corner)

I am god if you know what i mean

[Genie]

I am god if you know what i mean

You are nothing...if you know what i mean

[Cheshire Cat]

You are nothing...if you know what i mean

you'd be supprised...if you know what i mean

[Genie]

you'd be supprised...if you know what i mean

Why, what you got that's so God like...if you know what I mean :lol:

[Cheshire Cat]

Why, what you got that's so God like...if you know what I mean :lol:

a pony if you know what i mean.....

[Genie]

a pony if you know what i mean.....

Haha, I'm totally confused...WTF has a pony got to do with being God Like...if you know what I mean

[Cheshire Cat]

Haha, I'm totally confused...WTF has a pony got to do with being God Like...if you know what I mean

oh you'll see....

[Genie]

oh you'll see....

somehow I doubt that very much...if you know what I mean

[Cheshire Cat]

somehow I doubt that very much...if you know what I mean

join the club of doubters if you know what i mean

[Genie]

join the club of doubters if you know what i mean

have you collected a few? If you know what I mean

[Cheshire Cat]

have you collected a few? If you know what I mean

obviously!!! :facepalm:

[Genie]

obviously!!! :facepalm:

you forgot...if you know what I mean....If you know what I mean

(Mr Maha may grumble you)

[Cheshire Cat]

you forgot...if you know what I mean....If you know what I mean

(Mr Maha may grumble you)

the only person who can out-grumble me is Goblin.....if you know what i mean

[Genie]

the only person who can out-grumble me is Goblin.....if you know what i mean

hehe...if you know what I mean

[Cheshire Cat]

:violin: if you know what i mean.....

[Maha]

Thats not quite the worlds smallest but it will do if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

Thats not quite the worlds smallest but it will do if you know what I mean.

hey twiddle dee, hey twiddle dum....if you know what I mean

[Genie]

hey twiddle dee, hey twiddle dum....if you know what I mean

and, Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall....if you know what I mean

[Maha]

All the kings horses and men were prepearing to fight France on tha day if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

and a fat lot of good that did them....if you know what I mean

[Maha]

...not to mention poor ole' humpty if you know what I mean.

(thats why they couldn't put him back together, they weren't there)

[Genie]

very hard to repair a broken egg once it's cracked, unless of course it's hard boiled or hollow.....if you know what I mean

[Maha]

.....and made of chocolate if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

well if it chocolate you just eat it, yum, if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

Does anyone know what they mean if you know what I mean..?

[Maha]

What what means Ed if you know what I mean

[Genie]

Whaty Whats is such an inane programme, if you know what I mean

[oldrider]

Auckland's dis-functionality looks set to continue, despite the new super city.....if you know what I mean! :facepalm:

[howdamnhard]

not if it involves has a cold nose... if you know what I mean :innocent:

You need to clear your box ...... if you know what I mean.

[MSTRS]

Is a girl with a runny nose full...if you know what I mean

[Genie]

Answer me this...
how come, sometimes, the "ride" doesn't quite "cut the mustard", no matter how far you ride? If you know what I mean.

[98tls]

If you have to ask,if you know what i mean.

[Genie]

Just received my answer - via text- there's times when I'm simply "in another zone"...if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

At times I think we're all being taken for a ride, if you know what I mean.

[98tls]

Just received my answer - via text- there's times when I'm simply "in another zone"...if you know what I mean

Speaking of Zones its back,though a little different.if you know what i mean.

[98tls]

At times I think we're all being taken for a ride, if you know what I mean.

:facepalm:Sorry ED,missed your post,if you know what i mean.

[Edbear]

:facepalm:Sorry ED,missed your post,if you know what i mean.

You musta been in a back zone somewhere... :yes:

[Genie]

At times I think we're all being taken for a ride, if you know what I mean.

But we are able to change lanes....if you know what I mean :yeah:

[Edbear]

But we are able to change lanes....if you know what I mean :yeah:

So which lane is the one where you can cut the mustard while in the zone being taken for a ride if you know what I mean... :blink:

[98tls]

So which lane is the one where you can cut the mustard while in the zone being taken for a ride if you know what I mean... :blink:

:facepalm:Actually no Ed,no fucking idea,if you know what i mean:woohoo:

[Edbear]

Must be the right one then if you know what I mean... :yes:

[Genie]

So which lane is the one where you can cut the mustard while in the zone being taken for a ride if you know what I mean... :blink:

Ha, I know, the one with the finest of chunky ham....if you know what I mean:msn-wink:

[Edbear]

Ha, I know, the one with the finest of chunky ham....if you know what I mean:msn-wink:

Ah, the old chunky ham and cut mustard lane trick, if you know what I mean... :sunny:

[Genie]

I'm quite partial to the cutting lanes thing, threading? And merge like a zip, WOW....if you know what I mean

(love my bike)

[FJRider]

I'm partial to "stuff" that lists a contents % ... if you know what I mean ...

[Genie]

oh yes, me too, mines 37.5%...hehe, if you know what I mean

[FJRider]

oh yes, me too, mines 37.5%...hehe, if you know what I mean

I hope the Genie does not live in a bottle ... if you know what I mean ...

[Genie]

I hope the Genie does not live in a bottle ... if you know what I mean ...

No, a cosy home on a handy corner.....if you know what I mean

[FJRider]

No, a cosy home on a handy corner.....if you know what I mean

Pleased to hear .... if you know what I mean ... :yes:

[oldrider]

No, a cosy home on a handy corner.....if you know what I mean

Sounds like the little house on the prairie.......if you know what I mean! :grouphug:

[Genie]

:clap::rofl:

Laura...if you know what I mean :lol:

[MSTRS]

Oh no! There's someone in the dooryard. With a chainsaw. Finally...some excitement. If you know what I mean.

[Edbear]

I'm partial to a bit of excitement in the doorway, but maybe not with a chainsaw, if you know what I mean. :bye:

[Ratti]

Mstrs is partial to living dangerously. iykwim

[MSTRS]

Really? What do you know? What have you heard? If you know what I mean...

[Edbear]

One need only say. "I have it from reliable sources." if you know what I mean.:innocent:

[Ratti]

I have it from reliable sources...iykwim

[yungatart]

They lie...he's a boring old fart, if you know what I mean......

[Hitcher]

"Old farts" can be reliably accused of many things, but are rarely boring, if you know what I mean.

[Maha]

....leaving heat-wave marks on the bed sheets for one if you know what I mean.

[MSTRS]

Wasn't me....if you know what I mean

[Genie]

....leaving heat-wave marks on the bed sheets for one if you know what I mean.

yuck, that just gross and rude....what's a Dutch Oven? If you know what I mean

[Edbear]

"A Dutch oven is a thick-walled (usually cast iron) cooking pot with a tight-fitting lid. Dutch ovens have been used as cooking vessels for hundreds of years." Wikipedia...

220998

If you know what I mean...

[Edbear]

Or is my innocence showing again if you know what I mean?

[MSTRS]

Yes...if you know what I mean.

[Edbear]

Yes...if you know what I mean.

"A dutch oven is a fart chamber (a contained area of flatus) created by pulling a blanket over someone's head and breaking wind. The phrase is a slang description based on the cooking action of a Dutch oven where food is cooked and steamed inside a closed chamber. Performing a Dutch oven creates an area of foul-odored air in an enclosed space that must be breathed in.[1] This is done as a prank or by accident to one's sleeping partner.[2][3]". Wikipedia

Oh, I see what you mean now if you know what I mean. :yes:

[Genie]

Top of the Class young fella...if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

You can teach an old dog new tricks if you know what I mean.

[Maha]

....but it will still sniff your bollocks if you know what I mean.

[oldrider]

Might sniff yours but it can still lick it's own balls though.......if you know what I mean! :nya:

[Genie]

So that's why dog is man's best friend....if you know what I mean:gob:

[oldrider]

True!.............if you know what I mean! :bleh:

[Genie]

True!.............if you know what I mean! :bleh:

The truth shall set you free....if you know what I mean

[marie_speeds]

The truth shall set you free....if you know what I mean

Or get one into a lot of trouble...if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

Especially if it's the dog's bollocks if you know what I mean...

[Maha]

Thats a Bar out East aint it if you know what I mean.

[cc rider]

The best bars are up... North... if you know what I mean :blip:

[Genie]

There's also the Dennison Dog down the coast...if you know what I mean:yes:

[Ratti]

And Bulls has the Rat's Hole. iykwim

[oldrider]

And they are "all" where I aint!....................if you know what I mean! :facepalm:

[Edbear]

Are we raising the bar? If you know what I mean

[marie_speeds]

Or holding it up.....if you know what I mean :drinkup:

[Edbear]

Raising the bar isn't the same as holding it up is it, if you know what I mean?

[MSTRS]

With apologies to the Abyss...
He who holds up the bar, the bar is also holding him up
If you know what I mean

[Edbear]

So it's a two-way hold-up if you know what I mean

[MSTRS]

"Stick'em up" "No, you stick'em up"
If you know what I mean

[Edbear]

Then someone lowers the boom if you know what I mean...

[MSTRS]

Eyesight fail! That's a yardarm. And now the sun's over it...if you know what I mean

[Genie]

Does that mean it time for a drink? If you know what I mean

[Edbear]

I'd enjoy an afterwork drink about now, that is, if I worked, if you know what I mean. :shutup:

[yungatart]

I'd enjoy an afternoon drink, if I didn't have to go to work, if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

The good thing about an afterwork drink is it doesn't matter when you finish if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

the bad thing about that is if you finish at 5.00 am....if you know what I mean

[Maha]

Work or Drinking? if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

Neither bodes well .... if you know what I mean

[oldrider]

An afternoon drink would be great, if we didn't have to wait all morning to get there!........if you know what I mean! :drinknsin

[Edbear]

So one needs a morning activity to pass the time if you know what I mean :innocent:

[Genie]

I cna think of many morning activites that would make one very thirsty...if you know what I mean

[Maha]

Just waking up does it for me if you know what I mean.

[Maha]

Of to the beach tomorrow for the weekend ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

the edit function is such a remarkable wee tool....if you know what I mean

[Maha]

.....:facepalm::innocent::o:corn: if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

:scooter:...............if you know what I mean

[Maha]

:laugh::niceone:...if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

:yes:, I know and tomorrow is bike riding day.....if you know what I mean:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[Edbear]

I so like smiley's if you know what I mean... :yes:

:drinkup: :corn: :violin: :love: :wings: :done: :first: :drinknsin

[oldrider]

I like money, that's what I like.
So that I can continue,
to register my bike!...............if you know what I mean! :motu:Nick!

[Genie]

I like yellow roses, t-bone steak, juicy oranges and hokey pokey ice-cream (ffs).....if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

If it's food, I like it if you know what I mean... :yes:

[FJRider]

I'd settle just for a nice sleep in .... :yes::yes::yes: ... If you know what I mean ...

[Genie]

Me Too! I've had very little sleep this last week....if you know what I mean

(damn too much to do and not enough time, always time for a ride)

[oldrider]

Red hot poker eyes :eek5: Hayfever :facepalm: .......... if you know what I mean! :drool:

[Genie]

Fortunately I have no experience with what you mean....if you know what I mean

[oldrider]

Bloody silver birch trees :argh: if you kn ..... but you don't do you! :doh: ....if you know what I mean! :scratch:

[Genie]

They're rather nice trees, I love the patterns on the bark....if you know what I mean

[oldrider]

May all the dogs in the world piss on them ........... if you know what I mean! :drool:

[Genie]

did you know that pissing on lemon trees results in amazing lemons?....if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

Especially if you ride a hot Indian if you know what I mean

[Ratti]

did you know that pissing on lemon trees results in amazing lemons?....if you know what I mean

pissing on lemon trees results in wet feet if you are a woman.iykwim

[MSTRS]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Camping-outdoors/Other/auction-324110033.htm
...if you know what I mean

[Maha]

The shewee, even I can find a use for that if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

pissing on lemon trees results in wet feet if you are a woman.iykwim

no cocking of leg then? Not enough spreadage...if you know what i mean

[Genie]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Camping-outdoors/Other/auction-324110033.htm
...if you know what I mean

Priceless...if you know what I mean

[MSTRS]

no cocking of leg then? Not enough spreadage...if you know what i mean

One of the Black Arts. Dangerous until perfected. If you know what I mean.

[oldrider]

I offered to duct tape one on with a little valve to control flow .... idea not well received .... removal not clearly thought out ...... if you know what I mean! :eek5:

[Genie]

now that's an interesting concept....if you know what I mean

[MSTRS]

Brazillians. Not just cosmetic...if you know what I mean.

[Ratti]

:cry: if you know what I mean

[MSTRS]

Brings tears to one's eyes? I wouldn't know...if you know what I mean

[Ratti]

The experience can be arranged-iykwim

[MSTRS]

Pass...if you know what I mean

[Ratti]

always indicate when passing-iykwim

[Pussy]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Camping-outdoors/Other/auction-324110033.htm
...if you know what I mean

Girlies would even be able to write their names in roadside banks like we can, with one of those things.... if you know what I mean :)

[MSTRS]

Ohhh...I can see it now. Ratti woz here...if you know what I mean

[Genie]

and in winter it would be steamin....if you know what I mean

[Maha]

Girlies would even be able to write their names in roadside banks like we can, with one of those things.... if you know what I mean :)

And scoop up the rice when in the kitchen if you know what I mean.

[MSTRS]

Feeling a little...sick...if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

Feeling a little...sick...if you know what I mean.


Me too and I'm so not cooking rice tonight....if you know what I mean

[MSTRS]

And use a spoon for that ice cream. No...not the one in your top pocket..if you know what I mean

[oldrider]

Stuck up the front of the helmet (cover mouth and nose) for a defogger in winter? .... if you know what I mean? :shutup:

Stick one in each ear so you can hear the conversations at the pit stops? .... if you know what I mean! :psst:

Handy pourer for oil when doing an oil change fill ..... if you know what I mean! :scratch:

A must have universal tool for bikers perhaps ....... if you know what I mean! :yes:

[cc rider]

A must have universal tool for bikers perhaps ....... if you know what I mean! :yes:
there are a few bikers who are tools.. if you know what I mean

[MSTRS]

Biking seems to attract tools...if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

But not Suzuki's if you know what I mean...

[MSTRS]

In a class of their own...upper class, that is...if you know what I mean.

[oldrider]

Indulge in a threesome, ride a Triumph ........ if you know what I mean! :whistle:

[Banditbandit]

I prefer four - if you know what I Mean ...

[MSTRS]

Four is just being greedy. But what the hell. Why not. If you know what I mean

[Ratti]

At least 3 reasons why not- iykwim

[cc rider]

At least 3 reasons why not- iykwim
No reason, no rhyme if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

And yet most rhyme's are resonable if you know what I mean.

[Genie]

it's a shame some people aren't...if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

Like, "Why can't you be reasonable and see it my way?" if you know what I mean.

[MSTRS]

And yet most rhyme's are resonable if you know what I mean.

Oh, I know a few that aren't...if you know what I mean

[Genie]

Like, "Why can't you be reasonable and see it my way?" if you know what I mean.

But, it's my way because i'm always right....if you know what I mean:woohoo:

[Edbear]

I might not always be right, but I'm never wrong, if you know what I mean...

[MSTRS]

A casual acquaintance with precision? If you know what I mean

[Maha]

Its blowin' in the wind and I mean blowin' if you know what I mean.

[MSTRS]

Put your trousers back on, and leave the onions alone...if you know what I mean

[Maha]

Radish's make you fart...I mean fit! if you know what I mean.

[oldrider]

Breaking wind with gay abandon ........... if you know what I mean! :nya:

[Genie]

I'd choose dancing with gay abandon thanks very much, if you know what I mean

[Edbear]

dance with the stars if you know what I mean

[Genie]

I saw me some sand stars once, thought that dance would last forever...if you know what I mean

[oldrider]

The sands of time? Unfortunately nothing lasts forever ........ if you know what I mean! ...... (Even :ride: bliss!)

[Banditbandit]

And the best things only last seven seconds - if you know what I mean ...

[yungatart]

And the best things only last seven seconds - if you know what I mean ...

Ooh, as long as that??? You are a real stayer, if you know what I mean....

[Botany Honda]

I really should get back to work instead of posting in this thread, if ya know what the hell I'm on about :facepalm:

[Edbear]

Yeah, me too.... :innocent: if you know what I mean.

[yungatart]

Where would be the fun in that, if you know what I mean....

[Maha]

My working day ended just before midday ifyouknowwhatimean.

[yungatart]

The long weekend has already started in HB, if you know what I mean.....

[Maha]

Here also, might be off a wee ride tomorrow way up Norf, weather look spankin' ifya no wot I meen.

[yungatart]

mmmm...spanking...if you know what I mean...

[oldrider]

Spanking? ..... does that mean someone is "hitting on you" ...... if you know what I mean! :innocent:

[MSTRS]

Just when I started getting 'anticipatory', she said she wanted to be the spankER...if you know what I mean

[oldrider]

It is (obviously) far better to give than to receive ..... if you know what I mean! :killingme

[Edbear]

To be the spanker or the spankee, that is the question, if you know what I mean.

[Ronin]

To be the spanker or the spankee, that is the question, if you know what I mean.

I thought "To be or not to be" was the question if you know what I mean.

[yungatart]

Who cares what the question is, the answer is 42... if you know what I mean....