Trump - 4 more years of this at least... [Archive] - Page 33

pritch

26th March 2025, 12:54

The drama over the Signal group chat between Trump Cabinet members continues. During the chat Pete Kegbreath posted,“We are currently clean on OPSEC.”
Clean on OPSEC except for the presence of a journalist on the call?

Almost unbelievably one group member was in Moscow during the call. The correct procedure would have been for him to visit the embassy and use their SCIF. Not only did he not do that, it's not certain he even used a secure phone.

Tulsi Gabbard stated in the Congressional hearing that no classified matters were discussed. She also stated that she cannot answer questions regarding the call because it is classified.

As a retired general said, if a group of military officers had done this they would all have been suspended immediately and be facing Courts Martial.

husaberg

26th March 2025, 20:05

The drama over the Signal group chat between Trump Cabinet members continues. During the chat Pete Kegbreath posted,“We are currently clean on OPSEC.”
Clean on OPSEC except for the presence of a journalist on the call?

Almost unbelievably one group member was in Moscow during the call. The correct procedure would have been for him to visit the embassy and use their SCIF. Not only did he not do that, it's not certain he even used a secure phone.

Tulsi Gabbard stated in the Congressional hearing that no classified matters were discussed. She also stated that she cannot answer questions regarding the call because it is classified.

As a retired general said, if a group of military officers had done this they would all have been suspended immediately and be facing Courts Martial.

Wasn't there a KB lynch mob out for the former US SOS about cyber security of their own server and backberry?
Constant drowning but security but security...
Same about security at Benghazi?
Seems to be a two different rules thing.... not to mention but but but hunter Biden...

1/32 man

27th March 2025, 06:19

In an ideal world the difference between the village idiot and the US president world would not boil done to"a small loan of a 100 million dollars"

Good point but was it a loan or a grift? er gift?

pritch

27th March 2025, 08:38

Interesting. Charges have been brought against all of the participants in the Signal group chat under the Federal Records Act. The judge assigned is Judge Boesberg. He who Trump loves to hate.

The Federal Records Act requires that copies are kept of all official government communications. The group were presumably using Signal so there would be no record.
Anyhoo they now have a chance to prove that their motives were as pure as the driven snow.

pritch

27th March 2025, 19:04

Trump has introduced a 25% tariff on motor vehicles. Prices have risen sharply in recent years and the yards are full with nothing moving. To fully understand the likely result of the tariff it would be necessary to know which cars are assembled in the US and which aren't.
I don't suppose it's just a favour to his biggest donor to make Tesla more competitive against Chinese imports?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-announces-25-percent-tariffs-on-cars-ramping-up-trade-war/ar-AA1BJCs8

onearmedbandit

27th March 2025, 19:15

While there currently are no Chinese branded cars sold in America, some models of other brands that are made in China are, like the Polestar 1 and 2, Volvo S90 and a couple 'American' models. A few Doug Demuro vids brought this to my attention when he's reviewed them or spoken about them but I did need to look up which ones they were.

pete376403

27th March 2025, 21:22

Trump has introduced a 25% tariff on motor vehicles. Prices have risen sharply in recent years and the yards are full with nothing moving. To fully understand the likely result of the tariff it would be necessary to know which cars are assembled in the US and which aren't.
I don't suppose it's just a favour to his biggest donor to make Tesla more competitive against Chinese imports?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-announces-25-percent-tariffs-on-cars-ramping-up-trade-war/ar-AA1BJCs8

Mexican built cars: Ford:
Hermosillo: Ford produces the Ford Maverick and Bronco Sport at its plant in Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico.
Cuautitlan: Ford produces the Mustang Mach-E at its plant near Mexico City.
Other Ford Models: Ford also produces the Fusion and Lincoln MKZ at its Hermosillo plant.
GM:
Silao: GM's Silao plant produces the Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500.
Ramos Arizpe: Chevy Blazer and Equinox.
San Luis Potosi: GMC Terrain and Chevy Equinox.
Other GM Models: GM also produces engines and transmissions for domestic and international markets in its Mexican plants.

All the MAGA-favourite trucks and SUVs - that's gonna piss=off the good ol' boys

Pursang

27th March 2025, 22:15

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbTFkbjB3MDRtM3oyYjY5aGpvMDd3eHY 5eWlvaXc0dzBmNGI4OXI2cSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/If1Ld9PNnswYAxgOrW/giphy.gif

Pursang

28th March 2025, 08:19

https://i.imgur.com/oJyWerK.jpeg

Pursang

28th March 2025, 21:12

When your immigrant workers are deported or just too scared too scared to come to work.......
.....MAGAts have the answer!!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnBFGEbbIAEQ2Ku.jpg:large

Dean

29th March 2025, 07:26

Stocks are going to hit an all time low with the confirmed second round of tarrifs (already trending pre 2024), property is down and expect more mortgagee sales in Q2 & Q3. Time to buy more stocks and property!

R650R

29th March 2025, 11:49

Stocks are going to hit an all time low with the confirmed second round of tarrifs (already trending pre 2024), property is down and expect more mortgagee sales in Q2 & Q3. Time to buy more stocks and property!

Volatility is certainly creating great opportunities

Dean

29th March 2025, 14:59

Volatility is certainly creating great opportunities

For sure, what video from Alex Prehn do you recommend? Have got some time up my sleeve to watch some.

R650R

29th March 2025, 18:09

For sure, what video from Alex Prehn do you recommend? Have got some time up my sleeve to watch some.

Watch the free masterclass linked in start of all his videos or just watch any of his regular ones and learn something small each day. It looks click baity but I like his strategies and the way he explains stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c97nF8Ranfw

Pursang

29th March 2025, 21:40

Looks life-like to me
https://scontent.fbne6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/487203008_1717478625837901_9196011221893793748_n.j pg?stp=dst-jpg_s640x640_tt6&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=E-GMCk-9q7AQ7kNvgGbGxcF&_nc_oc=AdkzeDlK24B3mXWQ_9jhSg9vjW9YSSC2EBxGhBHwvod 1HHJcxuOaPX--C3fwUF_Ch9FZc90IEq2wO4zohAJiYdPU&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne6-1.fna&_nc_gid=-7U--zY75fiBQZe13y2qOw&oh=00_AYEdDgfN_olwvJj8ByiIOBDVI1P4QDgpQrRj_3KXRdLX KA&oe=67ED99A5

husaberg

30th March 2025, 09:11

sugilite

30th March 2025, 09:43

husaberg

30th March 2025, 10:03

How do you get youtube shorts to display and play in the forum threads?

right click and copy then paste the code
<iframe width="315" height="560" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HlA3gDu6Y90" title="Canada Breaks Free from the Trump Show" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

<iframe width="315" height="560" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wTQFvomTcuo" title="Trump demands Putin sign ceasefire #PuppetRegime #UkraineWar #Trump #Putin" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen=""></iframe><iframe width="315" height="560" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/PqzQEoC22uA" title="#Trump renames EVERYTHING #PUPPETREGIME" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen=""></iframe><iframe width="315" height="560" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nwcVw8tEsRw" title="Trump's deal to end the Ukraine war — #PUPPETREGIME #TrumpPuppet #PutinPuppet" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

F5 Dave

30th March 2025, 15:25

Repeal the female vote next?

How did these guys get in power?

pritch

30th March 2025, 18:03

How did these guys get in power?

That is a very good question. There was more information about who and what Trump is than any previous president. Yet enough people voted for a criminal conman with an IQ barely above handicapped level to get him elected.

Then there is Project 2025 which mentioned Trump by name over 300 times yet some suggested that didn't mean he knew about it. Of course he immediately started implementing the policies in P2025 and appointed the authors to high positions in his administration.

The gullibility of some people is beyond comprehension.

TheDemonLord

31st March 2025, 07:55

Repeal the female vote next?

How did these guys get in power?

4 years of the catastrophic failure of the Biden administration.

Quite simple really.

Pursang

31st March 2025, 08:38

4 years of the catastrophic failure of the Biden administration.

Quite simple really.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/fact-sheet-the-biden-harris-administration-record

What a pack of bastards!

Laava

31st March 2025, 09:42

Was only a matter of time!….
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360634114/trump-says-hes-considering-ways-serve-third-term-president

TheDemonLord

31st March 2025, 09:57

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/fact-sheet-the-biden-harris-administration-record

What a pack of bastards!

Yes, thank you for posting the press release of the Democratic Party.

How'd that work out with the voters?

Oh yes, Popular Vote, House, Senate, Presidency - all Republican.

And that is where the Rubber hits the road. Biden, on multiple fronts, was an abject disaster. The American people soundly rejected him and his Parties ideas and his annointed successor Kamala.

At some point the Left has to see where it has gone wrong. I doubt it will, or we will see a situation like in the UK where Keir Starmer got elected.

nerrrd

31st March 2025, 11:15

Let's just get through this term first, there's more than enough global strategic and economic upheaval (and associated fallout) to worry about already.

F5 Dave

31st March 2025, 11:37

He's of course taking notes from his boss on how to hold onto power.

1/32 man

1st April 2025, 06:48

I see what you did there TDL.

pritch

1st April 2025, 08:44

Pete Kegbreath Secretary of Defence and town drunk, has been claiming that the US military is now a meritocracy. DEI is dead. That will be why he was appointed to Trump's cabinet from a weekend talking head position on FOX. That'll also be why his younger brother has been appointed to a senior advisor position at the Pentagon despite having no relevant qualifications or experience. Kegbreath the younger's entire career to date has been involved with podcasting.

Pete has also been towing his wife around a series of high level international meetings. In case you are wondering that is not normal. Not even close.

pete376403

1st April 2025, 09:45

What does our resident US Constitution expert have to say about trump claiming he can have a third presidential term?

onearmedbandit

1st April 2025, 11:28

To be fair, he's not claiming he can yet (from what I've seen), just looking into whether he could. I was reading yesterday that there are a couple ways he could, have maybe Vance run for office and then have him step down and hand the presidency to Trump or change to the constitution (which then support numbers wouldn't be there for him).

pete376403

1st April 2025, 11:56

To be fair, he's not claiming he can yet (from what I've seen), just looking into whether he could. I was reading yesterday that there are a couple ways he could, have maybe Vance run for office and then have him step down and hand the presidency to Trump

No - this potential loophole is invalidated by the 12th Amendment redefining the procedure to elect the president and vice president, experts said. This earlier amendment, ratified in 1804, states that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.” This means that, because he would have already served two terms, Trump would be barred from running as president and thus also barred from being vice president.

or change to the constitution (which then support numbers wouldn't be there for him)

Agree, unlikely as amending the Constitution to abolish the two-term limit would be exceedingly difficult, requiring either a two-thirds vote of Congress or two-thirds of the states agreeing to call a constitutional convention to propose changes. Either route would then require ratification from three-quarters of the states.

A third method would involve just riding roughshod over the Constitution , with the S/C as backup, and that might just lead to a civil war

onearmedbandit

1st April 2025, 12:20

No - this potential loophole is invalidated by the 12th Amendment redefining the procedure to elect the president and vice president, experts said. This earlier amendment, ratified in 1804, states that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.” This means that, because he would have already served two terms, Trump would be barred from running as president and thus also barred from being vice president.

Yes this was mentioned in the article I read but they had a counter to that which I'll quote from another source -

Other legal experts, however, point to the last sentence of the 12th Amendment, which covers the Electoral College, as a roadblock for any twice-elected president attempting to return to the White House through the vice presidency. It says that "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

Still, in court, a lawyer could try to argue that being a "natural born" citizen, at least 35 years old and a resident within the U.S. for at least 14 years are the only presidential eligibility requirements specified in the Constitution, says Stephen Gillers, a professor emeritus at New York University School of Law, who proposed in 2004 that Clinton run for vice president.

Typically, all down to interpretations, the devil is in the detail. This article does cite another way he could though -

The federal government-sanctioned record of interpretations of the Constitution also points to the possibility of a former two-term president serving as speaker of the House of Representatives or as another federal officer who could become president through the Presidential Succession Act of 1947.

Interpretations again.

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/31/nx-s1-5191889/is-trump-running-for-a-third-term

I guess only time will truly tell. Makes for a controversial topic though right!

pritch

1st April 2025, 13:12

Actually the idea of appointing Trump Speaker of the House was floated before he was officially the Republican nominee for this last election. The Speaker is not required to be an elected representative. Slightly weird because the House Speaker is only two heart beats away from being president. (The VP is only one heart beat away.)

R650R

1st April 2025, 17:17

April 2 2025 will be judgement day, Independence Day, or as Trump calls it liberation day. What could be so powerful that he didn’t want to announce on April fools day????

1-Tie dollar back to gold like JFK wanted???
2-Exit NATO???
3-End income tax
4-EXIT UN and WHO
5-Amend Constitution
6-Bring all troops home and close foreign bases????
7-Declare himself emperor of the world or something equally crazy???

pritch

2nd April 2025, 08:14

No - this potential loophole is invalidated by the 12th Amendment redefining the procedure to elect the president and vice president, experts said. This earlier amendment, ratified in 1804, states that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.” This means that, because he would have already served two terms, Trump would be barred from running as president and thus also barred from being vice president.

True, but Trump is banned from being elected president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Yet here we are.

TheDemonLord

2nd April 2025, 09:32

True, but Trump is banned from being elected president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Yet here we are.

Clearly not...

onearmedbandit

2nd April 2025, 09:40

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/napier-bb-turning-away-americans-because-of-trump/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1743531598

Funnily enough, there's people up in arms saying this is racist. I don't think the republican supporters are a race but could be mistaken.

TheDemonLord

2nd April 2025, 09:53

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/napier-bb-turning-away-americans-because-of-trump/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1743531598

Funnily enough, there's people up in arms saying this is racist. I don't think the republican supporters are a race but could be mistaken.

Racist?

No.

Discriminatory?

Absolutely.

The irony is hilarious.

pritch

2nd April 2025, 14:02

Trump has announced plans to scrap the Department of Education. Naturally the MAGA politicians are applauding this move. The same States that fill the bottom rungs of the states listed by educational attainment.

1. West Virginia

2. Mississippi

3. Louisiana

4. Arkansas

5. Nevada

6. New Mexico

7. Alabama

8. Oklahoma

9. Texas

10. South Carolina

These are the states where religious nutters tend to fill high positions. Like the dude in Oklahoma who wants to spend big bucks putting bibles in every classroom. Trump bibles no less. It's all a glorious crime spree.

neels

2nd April 2025, 15:44

Trump has announced plans to scrap the Department of Education. Naturally the MAGA politicians are applauding this move. The same States that fill the bottom rungs of the states listed by educational attainment.

1. West Virginia

2. Mississippi

3. Louisiana

4. Arkansas

5. Nevada

6. New Mexico

7. Alabama

8. Oklahoma

9. Texas

10. South Carolina

These are the states where religious nutters tend to fill high positions. Like the dude in Oklahoma who wants to spend big bucks putting bibles in every classroom. Trump bibles no less. It's all a glorious crime spree.
Surely that's to be expected when you elect a convicted criminal as president

R650R

2nd April 2025, 16:10

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/napier-bb-turning-away-americans-because-of-trump/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1743531598

Funnily enough, there's people up in arms saying this is racist. I don't think the republican supporters are a race but could be mistaken.

Prob said by people who are careless with their words but hey everything is “racist” these days.

So he’s anti fascism but Show me your papers and political thoughts before you book here!!!
What I think is worse that our media thought some glorified air bnb cancelling two bookings is news.
Laughable the bit about boycott American goods ain’t t gonna do nothing.

onearmedbandit

2nd April 2025, 18:29

Prob said by people who are careless with their words but hey everything is “racist” these days.

Actually, the few cases I saw, they weren't that type of person. Just up in arms about it.

Stylo

2nd April 2025, 19:38

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/napier-bb-turning-away-americans-because-of-trump/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1743531598

Funnily enough, there's people up in arms saying this is racist. I don't think the republican supporters are a race but could be mistaken.

The Republican supporters are a cult movement now.

husaberg

2nd April 2025, 19:52

Prob said by people who are careless with their words but hey everything is “racist” these days.

So he’s anti fascism but Show me your papers and political thoughts before you book here!!!
What I think is worse that our media thought some glorified air bnb cancelling two bookings is news.
Laughable the bit about boycott American goods ain’t t gonna do nothing.
You are constantly batting zero percent with all your predictions why change now.
Maybe you might want to look at the US trade deficient since trump took over, its death by a billion cuts not just one Air BNB.
Look at the decline of Tesla.
The biggest increase in trade deficit ever recorded has happened since trump took over, the US is Nigel no mates.

pritch

3rd April 2025, 09:40

Trump has presented his US Liberation Day speech and I made myself sit through it. Mostly waffle, lots of denigrating Biden, lots of whinging about how unfairly treated the US is. Versions of the phrase, "like nobody has ever seen before" appeared at intervals. Australia received specific mention though, they export beef to the US but won't import US beef, 'to protect their farmers'. Not true. Very few countries will accept US beef because of the chemical growth hormones.

Motorcycles received specific mention. The US has a low tariff on imported motorbikes. Many countries, particularly those in Asia, have a very high tariff on imported bikes. It's hard to imagine the scooter riders in Vietnam or India swapping their mounts for Harleys because of tariff changes.

At one point he produced a chart showing the tariffs other countries put on US goods and the tariffs US put, or will put, on theirs. It did seem the lowest tariff anyone could expect would be 10%. NZ wasn't on the list that I could see so we have to wait.

Computer hardware companies, chip makers etc, were listed. Many are to return to US production to the value of about half a trillion annually. So too cars. Another half trillion.

Time will tell.

onearmedbandit

3rd April 2025, 10:51

NZ wasn't on the list that I could see so we have to wait.

10% for us too now it seems.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/live-updates-trump-announces-sweeping-tariffs-including-10-on-nz-goods-in-liberation-day-speech/TMC5Z65R7RB6FE34KG2GVYZABE/

husaberg

3rd April 2025, 11:12

10% for us too now it seems.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/live-updates-trump-announces-sweeping-tariffs-including-10-on-nz-goods-in-liberation-day-speech/TMC5Z65R7RB6FE34KG2GVYZABE/

Yip and Nats say, oh we did better than some other countries so we won't retaliate.
Gee we really stand tough.
Especially funny considering we have a very even trade balance with USA. Weak national. As far as i know We don't need US goods.

pritch

3rd April 2025, 11:26

Yip and Nats say, oh we did better than some other countries so we won't retaliate.
Gee we really stand tough.
Especially funny considering we have a very even trade balance with USA. Weak national. As far as i know We don't need US goods.

Apparently most imports from the US are tariff free here. Newstalk ZB News reports that the US govt figures incorrectly indicate that NZ has a 20% tariff on US imports. It seems the US civil servants can't distinguish between a tariff and a GST.

And yes, NZs response will likely be perceived as weakness in the US.

sugilite

3rd April 2025, 12:13

Apparently most imports from the US are tariff free here. Newstalk ZB News reports that the US govt figures incorrectly indicate that NZ has a 20% tariff on US imports. It seems the US civil servants can't distinguish between a tariff and a GST.

And yes, NZs response will likely be perceived as weakness in the US.

My retail business is largely US based, with most orders going to USA individuals. How will I be effected? Who the fuck knows as there is zero details on how all this is going to be administered. The whole thing could be totally performative and trump is waiting for countries to come and bend the knee granting concessions. They say the tariffs are being implemented Thursday, but it appears there is no plan in place or details of what that actually looks like and works admin wise. Also, I noticed how the seemingly disproportionately tarrifed poorer countries just happen to also be mineral rich - inflating my already high suspicion that this is all performative.

husaberg

3rd April 2025, 16:18

Apparently most imports from the US are tariff free here. Newstalk ZB News reports that the US govt figures incorrectly indicate that NZ has a 20% tariff on US imports. It seems the US civil servants can't distinguish between a tariff and a GST.

And yes, NZs response will likely be perceived as weakness in the US.
The US civil servent that knew the trade rules, were likely fired by musk and replaced by a spotty teen using Google.

Not sure we would have tariffs on anything since the late 80's early 90's.
I was thinking maybe a stealth embargo on US goods. no need to tariff ,just avoid all us products.
Exactly what products does the us produce that have no alternatives?

Maybe trumps mates confused duties on alcohol and tobacco or maybe he's just not a genius

Katman

3rd April 2025, 16:26

I was thinking maybe a stealth embargo on US goods. no need to tariff ,just avoid all us products.
Exactly What products does the us produce that have no alternatives?

But if anyone suggested boycotting Israeli products you'd be screaming like a stuck pig.

neels

3rd April 2025, 17:02

It's a fairly blanket approach with the tariffs, given that it also includes uninhabited islands.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025/04/02/trump-imposes-tariffs-on-uninhabited-heard-and-mcdonald-islands-remotest-places-on-earth/

It has been noted that the Norwegian territory of Svalbard has a lower tariff than mainland Norway, so clever people have suggested they might ship their goods via a small Arctic island and save 5%

R650R

3rd April 2025, 17:03

I watched the live stream also. Trump said he’d keep it simple and he did.

He’s basically charging half of whatever the other country is charging. Sounded pretty reasonable.
Yes we call it gst but essentially it’s a 15% sales tax whether it’s on imported goods or not. Thanks Adern.

Europes doubling down, bad idea I think, there’s a reason that 50% buffer was left open to adjust.

International markets have barely reacted, in fact there happy he’s erased the uncertainty around the whole idea. So a small blip in prices which people will absorb just like when ciggy tax or alcohol level goes up, life will go on.

I did go on customs website to try see our tariffs but it’s an unnavigable rabbit warren of sub menus on every product description. There’s more category’s than a pride march.

Pretty simple if you don’t want tariffs then don’t charge them on others.

husaberg

3rd April 2025, 17:29

But if anyone suggested boycotting Israeli products you'd be screaming like a stuck pig.
Free free to suggest a boycott of all Israeli pork products ,some things will never be kosher.
I seems you are confused though. What I object to is not the free exchange of political ideas, I object to your obvious rampant racism about anything Jewish. Ranging from your denial of the Holocaust. Your denial of the existence of gas chambers, Plus all sorts of other stuff you claim about Jews. Including but not limited to being behind 911 or some sort of Jewish conspiracy to take over the world. Also your continued posting of crackpot conspiracy ideas in general.
I feel this is because you can't tell the difference between spreading racially motivated hate speech and free speech.
I don't blame you for your ignorance, I solely blame your lack of intelligence.

husaberg

3rd April 2025, 17:40

I watched the live stream also. Trump said he’d keep it simple and he did.

He’s basically charging half of whatever the other country is charging. Sounded pretty reasonable.
Yes we call it gst but essentially it’s a 15% sales tax whether it’s on imported goods or not. Thanks Adern.

You clearly alacking some insight, its a 10% tariff on goods sold into the USA by NZ, VS GST which s an internal tax paid on all goods so there is no advantage or disadvantage on it being imported or not. so its not half of what nz charges When a person with anything over child like intellect looks at this. they should be able understand how the US is not disadvantaged from GST. If anything a lot of goods come into NZ from direct purchases without having the GST added.

pritch

3rd April 2025, 17:56

I saw it at the time but didn't take notice. Trump went walkabout again. If it was Biden the press would be trumpeting it from the tree tops. At the end of his speech Trump wandered off past the desk with executive orders on it awaiting his signature. Not for the first time a staff member had to stop him and redirect him back to where he was supposed to be. He didn't even know where he was.

F5 Dave

4th April 2025, 06:23

And now wrecking the world economy. Doubling down and not realising the damage is pig ignorant. I daren't look at my investments . Fuker:mad:

pritch

4th April 2025, 07:50

Trump's "reciprocal tariffs" are not reciprocal tariffs at all. That's just another Trump lie.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/03/economy/reciprocal-tariff-math/index.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

Interestingly the president does not normally have the power to introduce tariffs. So it seems Trump signed two executive orders. The first declared an emergency which then, in theory, gave him the power to create the tariffs.

It's not impossible that Congress could yet stall the tariffs. It depends on how concerned Republicans are at the possibility of losing their seats because of the impending recession.

F5 Dave

4th April 2025, 07:53

Or damaging their wealth which is more likely.

pritch

4th April 2025, 08:35

Comrade Krasnov strikes again? Here is the full list of Trump's tariffs. There seems to be one country missing. It's difficult, there's a lot of countries including one or two I've never heard of, and it's not in alphabetical order. If you can find Russia please let me know.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-reciprocal-tariff-chart-2054514

nerrrd

4th April 2025, 09:00

Comrade Krasnov strikes again? Here is the full list of Trump's tariffs. There seems to be one country missing. It's difficult, there's a lot of countries including one or two I've never heard of, and it's not in alphabetical order. If you can find Russia please let me know.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-reciprocal-tariff-chart-2054514

Thanks to the magic of command F (on the Mac anyway) here you go.

White House Explains Why Russia Not Included in Trump's New Tariffs (https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-explains-why-russia-not-included-trumps-new-tariffs-2054548)

pete376403

4th April 2025, 09:02

Comrade Krasnov strikes again? Here is the full list of Trump's tariffs. There seems to be one country missing. It's difficult, there's a lot of countries including one or two I've never heard of, and it's not in alphabetical order. If you can find Russia please let me know.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-reciprocal-tariff-chart-2054514

Dont see North Korea on there either. But Heard and McDonald islands? There's no-one there but penguins.

R650R

4th April 2025, 11:07

One analyst has said the crash may be deliberate. During times of market stress funds seek the safety of US govt bonds. The amount of money flowing into bonds right now is apparently forcing the rates down. The govt uses bonds to repay debt and right now the govt is getting a 10% discount on that tool which ads up quite nicely for them.

Anyone who’s losing money right now including myself is only there due to a lack of risk management. We all knew this volatility was coming. Once the dust settles it will be like a briscoes 50-60% of everything sale and the cycle begins again.

Funny how people hate on billionaires then hate on the man who who slashes their profit margins….

TheDemonLord

4th April 2025, 11:10

One Battery to rule them all, One Battery to find them, One battery to power them all and in the Darkness, Bind them. (https://www.protoolreviews.com/doge-mandates-power-tool-manufacturers-use-same-battery/)

So - this was unexpected.

And to be honest - I am conflicted.

On the one hand - Libertarian me says Get Government out of Private industry.

On the other hand, Pragmatic me says that a standard form factor would be a really bloody useful thing, like standard battery sizes, Thread types pitches etc.

Discuss.

onearmedbandit

4th April 2025, 11:30

One Battery to rule them all, One Battery to find them, One battery to power them all and in the Darkness, Bind them. (https://www.protoolreviews.com/doge-mandates-power-tool-manufacturers-use-same-battery/)

So - this was unexpected.

And to be honest - I am conflicted.

On the one hand - Libertarian me says Get Government out of Private industry.

On the other hand, Pragmatic me says that a standard form factor would be a really bloody useful thing, like standard battery sizes, Thread types pitches etc.

Discuss.

Will do. But first we should address the tag at the bottom of that page...

TheDemonLord

4th April 2025, 11:37

Will do. But first we should address the tag at the bottom of that page...

Oh bloody hell! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Well, I got played

1/32 man

4th April 2025, 19:03

Discuss.

Yes meeting chair

pritch

5th April 2025, 08:26

This doesn't appear to have received much coverage but it's out there. When Trump was flown by helicopter to Walter Reed Hospital with breathing difficulties arising from COVID a Dr Peter Stein administered the latest in anti viral medication potentially saving Trump's life.

Dr Stein has now been dismissed from his position as part of the DOGE campaign against waste, fraud, and abuse.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/donald-trump-fired-the-man-who-likely-saved-his-life-former-medical-official-236335685814

Kickaha

5th April 2025, 08:41

One Battery to rule them all, One Battery to find them, One battery to power them all and in the Darkness, Bind them.

Will do. But first we should address the tag at the bottom of that page... :lol:

There was a UK video on this a year ago as a new EU standard being introduced, coincidentally also on April 1st ;) I hadn't realised that when I told the Milwaukee rep about it a couple of days after seeing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKOvXigyrXA

pritch

5th April 2025, 13:42

Somewhat interesting goings on in the US - of course. As time passes there seems to be a lengthening list of people who were shipped to prison in El Salvador in error.
One was a refugee with court ordered protected status. The Judge told the government to fix it. The government replied thatt it couldn't. The judge said they have until 11.59PM Monday.

While I admire the judge's optimism I can't help feeling this will not end well for the prisoner.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/04/politics/judge-orders-us-government-return-man-from-el-salvador/index.html

sugilite

5th April 2025, 18:52

this is interesting, if true, this administration is far too incompetent to get this intricate plan through.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ts5wJ6OfzA

husaberg

5th April 2025, 20:35

husaberg

5th April 2025, 20:40

pritch

6th April 2025, 10:46

This is fifteen minutes long but it details the origin of Trump's tariff plan. It's almost unbelievable except that Kushner and Navarro both have form. Navarro recently did jail time related to his service in Trump's first presidency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8DbwGM4cig

sugilite

7th April 2025, 09:34

Here is what a real leader looks like. Gives a pragmatic speech to his countries population regarding the serious changes coming. Can you imagine luxon ever doing that? We would be very lucky to see him make a shitty tiktok about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0swAZQeZRc&list=WL&index=1&pp=gAQBiAQB

nerrrd

7th April 2025, 10:34

Here is what a real leader looks like. Gives a pragmatic speech to his countries population regarding the serious changes coming. Can you imagine luxon ever doing that? We would be very lucky to see him make a shitty tiktok about it.

Yes watched that over the weekend, some NZ politicians have been using Singapore as the yardstick for economic success we should be aspiring to for decades and that seems to demonstrate why.

Meanwhile President Trump could declare "my beautiful trade war is over and we won so big" tomorrow and everything goes back to normal. Or not, and after a couple of months China invades Taiwan using the economic stress created by the trade war as an excuse. I wouldn't rule out anything at all at this point, which does make it difficult for our average politicians to judge their responses.

sugilite

7th April 2025, 11:22

Meanwhile President Trump could declare "my beautiful trade war is over and we won so big" tomorrow and everything goes back to normal. Or not, and after a couple of months China invades Taiwan using the economic stress created by the trade war as an excuse. I wouldn't rule out anything at all at this point, which does make it difficult for our average politicians to judge their responses.

Great points, and I will add luxon never misses an opportunity do do nothing and does appear easily confused.

sugilite

7th April 2025, 14:39

I've not had much time of late to post on trumps maga universe. But have a little time to revisit this one. He was criticized heavily for hiring unqualified cabinet picks and none more than tulsi traitor gabbard has proven the naysayers right.

The so called "director of Intelligence" cannot remember what she said the day before, nor two weeks previous and could not even remember the contents of an illegal chat group call regarding military intelligence:facepalm:
Any of the cabinet clowns on that ill advised group chat would have been fired on the spot had they actually been in the armed forces and done what they did, but lucky for them their boss is a thin skinned narcissistic wanker who can never accept any sort of responsibility when things go badly wrong, in this case hiring incompetent idiots - so their jobs are safe.
It surprises me not that gabbard is essentially a traitor to her country with her promoting russian propaganda journalists on her personal social media pages, as she has a history of being a traitor.

gabbards incompetence on full display in the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbiB0YC1zsg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atd8L_cXFRo

TheDemonLord

9th April 2025, 09:07

So, this video has been doing the rounds - and I am going to post it here for a number of reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBF73bCYg5A

This is Nancy Pelosi, in 1996 talking about China-US Trade.

Firstly I want you to do a little bit of a thought experiment - close your eyes - and pretend it is Donald Trump's voice - does the messaging sound any different?

I have been saying for years that MAGA is essentially disenfranchised 90's era Democrats - and here we have the Arch-Democrat herself, from the 90s - saying what Trump is saying now.

Next, I want to re-iterate another of my favourite talking points - Every president of both flavors, with the exception of Trump has allowed this problem to get worse and worse over the last 30+ years.

Finally - linked to the above point - is I want to outline just how far the Democrats have shifted Left. The above speech would be considered today as 'Far Right extremism' and 'Fascist Nationalism' and other such buzzwords that I am loathed to use. Back then, it was a reasonable left-wing position.

nerrrd

9th April 2025, 13:41

Couldn't agree with her more. I think I heard Novarro ran (unsuccessfully) for office a few times as a Democrat?

But this isn't China's fault (or before them Japan's or Germany's, or more recently Vietnam's), however. Blaming them is pure misdirection. It's 100% the fault of the US government AND US corporations embracing globalisation as their preferred economic (and political) strategy, and as you say, it's taken 30+ years to get where we are today.

President Trump seems intent on blowing the whole system up overnight. And in the process, goad China into...what, exactly? Authoritarian regimes are not known for backing down when challenged internationally.

TheDemonLord

9th April 2025, 15:34

Couldn't agree with her more. I think I heard Novarro ran (unsuccessfully) for office a few times as a Democrat?

But this isn't China's fault (or before them Japan's or Germany's, or more recently Vietnam's), however. Blaming them is pure misdirection. It's 100% the fault of the US government AND US corporations embracing globalisation as their preferred economic (and political) strategy, and as you say, it's taken 30+ years to get where we are today.

President Trump seems intent on blowing the whole system up overnight. And in the process, goad China into...what, exactly? Authoritarian regimes are not known for backing down when challenged internationally.

Yep - in the 90s he tried to run as a Democrat (anyone starting to notice a pattern here?)

Blame and fault are too harsh a word IMO.

From the Chinese side - their disregard for Copyright is definitely a key factor and more generally the theory that Economic prosperity would turn a Communist country into a liberal western democracy abjectly failed.

The US Government are more culpable than most as it was their trade policy that allowed this to happen. I don't think you can judge the US Corporations for what they did. Afterall, if you can reduce your costs by a significant percentage - why wouldn't you?

One group not mentioned is Us, that is the Consumer - we constantly demand more for less and we, too, have our part to play. How many of us would spend more for an item that does the same thing, based purely on where it was made?

As for the final part - Well, this is where it gets interesting. If we look at Russia and how well they are or are not doing in the Ukraine, We see a numerically superior force being held at bay mostly by better equipment. Quick Aside - the defenders always have an advantage of sorts and the Ukrainians are putting up one hell of a fight.

One very clear conclusion to be drawn is that the West's military equipment is simply better than anything that the old Communist Bloc has. China has not been battle-tested, they do not have a blue water navy that can hold a candle to the US.

They are, quite simply, not in the position yet to throw weight around. Give them another 10-20 years if nothing changes - and I would agree that they would spoil for a fight.

Hence why I believe that it is critical that something be done now.

Laava

9th April 2025, 16:10

Wonder if this regime can last another 3 years, 9months?

https://youtu.be/Caazuqn42Fc

pritch

9th April 2025, 17:24

In that clip J D Vance expresses concern for the people. He is so concerned about farmers that he has set up a company to assist overseas buyers purchase farms which have been foreclosed on by the banks due to Trump's tariff insanity.

I'd like to think US farmers were aware of this but they probably aren't. A lot of them voted for Trump so they are actually getting what they voted for.

pete376403

9th April 2025, 18:54

In that clip J D Vance expresses concern for the people. He is so concerned about farmers that he has set up a company to assist overseas buyers purchase farms which have been foreclosed on by the banks due to Trump's tariff insanity.

I'd like to think US farmers were aware of this but they probably aren't. A lot of them voted for Trump so they are actually getting what they voted for.

It has been mentioned before - Chinas tariff on soyabeans in retaliation for trumps tariff on steel from China = american farmers lost out while brazilian farmers found a new market. American government bailed out the farmers last time (thought - isn't that what socialist governments do?) but that's not likely to happen again, thanks to doge. And still the farmers will vote republican https://www.npr.org/2025/02/08/nx-s1-5288119/a-soybean-farmer-recalls-how-he-was-impacted-by-chinese-tariffs-in-trumps-first-term

1/32 man

10th April 2025, 08:40

Trumpf won his latest golf tournament.....just incase you didnt know that he won. Did you know he won? He won!

pritch

10th April 2025, 09:25

Back in 2017 or whenever it was, Trump was in Paris for their Bastille Day celebration. He was so impressed by the big parade that he went home and told the generals he wanted a big parade. He was advised that it would cost over a hundred million dollars and given a variety of other reasons including that DC is built on a swamp and tanks travelling down Pennsylvania Avenue was not an option.

Trump has now surrounded himself with more compliant minions and he has apparently announced a big military parade to be held on his birthday. Kim Jong Trump? The cost, in excess of a hundred million dollars, is not considered waste, fraud, or abuse, apparently but I don't see how Pennsylvania Avenue can suddenly withstand the weight of tanks.

R650R

10th April 2025, 16:34

Back in 2017 or whenever it was, Trump was in Paris for their Bastille Day celebration. He was so impressed by the big parade that he went home and told the generals he wanted a big parade. He was advised that it would cost over a hundred million dollars and given a variety of other reasons including that DC is built on a swamp and tanks travelling down Pennsylvania Avenue was not an option.

Trump has now surrounded himself with more compliant minions and he has apparently announced a big military parade to be held on his birthday. Kim Jong Trump? The cost, in excess of a hundred million dollars, is not considered waste, fraud, or abuse, apparently but I don't see how Pennsylvania Avenue can suddenly withstand the weight of tanks.

It would be interesting to see a breakdown on those numbers. If you google Independence Day costs you’ll see it’s typically cheaper by a factor of ten at least and that’s with complaints about spending last time.
American citizens spend some 9.4 Billion celebrating July 4, an average of $28 each so I do r think people will be concerned at celebrating Americas success and national pride.
Apparently a lot of military costs come out of their budgeted training hours for flying or logistics in transporting tanks etc.
At least they’ll be getting a spectacular display. Jacinda’s lot spent $337,000 on sausage rolls and marques to open transmission gully so we really can’t be criticising any other nation…

R650R

10th April 2025, 16:46

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360648757/trumps-buy-tip-social-media-his-tariffs-pause-made-money-investors-who-listened

Apparently big players get around the whole insider trading thing quite easy. If information is publicly available then it can’t be considered insider trading. Apparently the big boys get around this by having someone publish the relevant information in any available obscure financial news magazine or blog before they do their trade.
I think truth social definately qualifies as an obscure publication lol

Oh well it will be worth a couple days of copium news cycles about trump maybe getting arrested again…

pritch

10th April 2025, 16:48

It would be interesting to see a breakdown on those numbers. If you google Independence Day costs you’ll see it’s typically cheaper by a factor of ten at least and that’s with complaints about spending last time.
American citizens spend some 9.4 Billion celebrating July 4, an average of $28 each so I do r think people will be concerned at celebrating Americas success and national pride.
Apparently a lot of military costs come out of their budgeted training hours for flying or logistics in transporting tanks etc.
At least they’ll be getting a spectacular display. Jacinda’s lot spent $337,000 on sausage rolls and marques to open transmission gully so we really can’t be criticising any other nation…

It was a YouTube interview. From memory the Federal cost was ninety million approx with another twenty or so from the DC government for policing, security, and maybe a million portaloos.

pritch

11th April 2025, 13:51

I watched the live stream also. Trump said he’d keep it simple and he did.

He’s basically charging half of whatever the other country is charging. Sounded pretty reasonable.
Yes we call it gst but essentially it’s a 15% sales tax whether it’s on imported goods or not. Thanks Adern.

Europes doubling down, bad idea I think, there’s a reason that 50% buffer was left open to adjust.

International markets have barely reacted, in fact there happy he’s erased the uncertainty around the whole idea. So a small blip in prices which people will absorb just like when ciggy tax or alcohol level goes up, life will go on.

I did go on customs website to try see our tariffs but it’s an unnavigable rabbit warren of sub menus on every product description. There’s more category’s than a pride march.

Pretty simple if you don’t want tariffs then don’t charge them on others.

Well this aged badly, seems you managed to get everything wrong. As you say though tariffs are complicated which is why Trump's calculations have nothing to do with tariffs at all. Far too complicated for his cretins.

WTF did Ardern have to do with GST?

I was actually looking for another of your posts where I seem to recall you thought that some people would be making a killing on the markets due to the volatility introduced by Trump's erratic behaviour.. I thought so too. I did wonder about insider trading though. There is an opinion that US politicians of all stripes play that game if possible. This time the focus is on Marjorie Taylor Green who has been making quite a large number of particularly advantageous trades the timing of which is suspicious. It'll be interesting to watch developments if the spotlight shines on her.

pritch

11th April 2025, 18:59

I'm sure you will all recall the plight of the immigrant with protected status and an America wife who was shipped off to El Salvador. A judge ruled that he be returned by midnight the following Monday. The Trump Justice Department refused. That ruling was appealed to the Supreme Court who put it on hold for a week or so. The Justices have now decided, they have ruled 9 - 0 that he is to be returned to the USA.

This may still end badly though. I don't think Trump wants him running around telling the world about what is happening in El Salvador.

F5 Dave

11th April 2025, 20:54

What a fucking moron r666 is. Jesus lots of American states have tax. THATS NOT A TARRIFF if it's applied to both domestic and international.

And blaming it on ardern. Jesus how ignorant of history are you? Did you not notice GST for the previous 40 years? I had to Google it as it was only in my children's memory.
. It was Roger Douglas in 1986.
You are an incel if you want to lay blame at a 'powerful woman' because you feel inadequate. I mean 40 years wrong. It can only be for your introverted psychosis trying to transfer guilt. Jesus let's blame Kate Shepherd.

onearmedbandit

11th April 2025, 21:46

I thought he was referring to the GST being applied to imported goods under the old threshold that once existed (around $400). That was Labour's move from memory.

pritch

11th April 2025, 21:53

I thought he was referring to the GST being applied to imported goods under the old threshold that once existed (around $400). That was Labour's move from memory.

The limit seems to be $1000 now. A strange thing to complain about.

onearmedbandit

11th April 2025, 21:57

The limit seems to be $1000 now. A strange thing to complain about.

Some overseas merchants do charge GST on goods under $1000 still, I've seen that happen.

pritch

12th April 2025, 09:01

Some overseas merchants do charge GST on goods under $1000 still, I've seen that happen.

True. The least three purchases I made from Chinese companies all arrived GST free though.

sugilite

17th April 2025, 08:17

Putin: "Thank You beloved comrade trump, your plan to make Russia great again at the USA's expense is working very very well." :facepalm:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-rouble-crowned-world-best-162446201.html

Laava

18th April 2025, 09:23

Good old Krasnov!

pritch

18th April 2025, 12:50

WTF? DOGE went into the National Labour Relations Board offices and seemingly exported a large amount of data. They then set up user accounts and within minutes there was an attempt by a Russian IP address to access these new accounts. The log in details the would-be intruder were using were correct but the attempt was stalled by the fact the system was set to deny access to IP addresses outside the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLPL0MZ7aVQ

husaberg

18th April 2025, 13:12

WTF? DOGE went into the National Labour Relations Board offices and seemingly exported a large amount of data. They then set up user accounts and within minutes there was an attempt by a Russian IP address to access these new accounts. The log in details the would-be intruder were using were correct but the attempt was stalled by the fact the system was set to deny access to IP addresses outside the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLPL0MZ7aVQ

Yeah don't expect anything but, but ....buts ....buts from the KB no1 trump fanboi, plus his KB chief apologist.

sugilite

18th April 2025, 18:00

Yeah don't expect anything but, but ....buts ....buts from the KB no1 trump fanboi, plus his KB chief apologist.

been a bit quiet of late, tough gig propping up total failure and lunacy wrapped up in one.

Laava

18th April 2025, 19:39

The ground is lava!

R650R

18th April 2025, 21:26

I know the above meme is a poor metaphor for the border wall saga but Iceland’s already got it covered. The big gear on the job and a geothermal power station ;p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHDHmqsh9_A

pritch

19th April 2025, 09:02

The thought keeps recurring but Trump's whole idiot tariff policy is based on the advice of a non-existent fictional character. Which does explain a lot.

sugilite

19th April 2025, 11:15

The thought keeps recurring but Trump's whole idiot tariff policy is based on the advice of a non-existent fictional character. Which does explains a lot.

Hannibal Lector for new FED chief?

pritch

19th April 2025, 14:00

Hannibal Lector for new FED chief?

Specifically Ron Vara the trade expert oft quoted by the only recently released from prison Peter Navarro, Trump's trade advisor. Vara doesn't exist, his name is an anagram of Navarro.

The Fed Reserve thing is interesting. Trump can't legally sack him but then very little of what Trump has been doing has been legal.

pritch

22nd April 2025, 09:13

Trump's cabinet members continue to distinguish themselves.

Kristi Noem, noted puppy killer and Secretary of Homeland Security, had her purse stolen while dining out. The purse contained blank cheques and $3,000 in cash.
The person responsible for the security of the nation can't look after her handbag? This also raises questions about what her Secret Service detail were doing at the time.

Ever the gentleman Pete Kegbreath stepped up and took the heat off Kristi. It seems he had another text message group, more in the nature of friends and family, on which he posted war plans prior to the attack on Yemen. This is strike 2 for Pete but he may be out anyway.

Kickaha

22nd April 2025, 15:32

So did J D Vance poison the Pope on Trumps orders when he met him ? that's my new conspiracy theory

Laava

22nd April 2025, 16:41

So did J D Vance poison the Pope on Trumps orders when he met him ? that's my new conspiracy theory
FFS! Don't get them started!
He certainly is gay enough to be a cloister loiterer!

pritch

24th April 2025, 22:19

There are lots like this currently. Trump was waiting for a call from China that never came. So he caved - again.

pete376403

25th April 2025, 11:09

Trump's cabinet members continue to distinguish themselves.

Kristi Noem, noted puppy killer and Secretary of Homeland Security, had her purse stolen while dining out. The purse contained blank cheques and $3,000 in cash.
The person responsible for the security of the nation can't look after her handbag? This also raises questions about what her Secret Service detail were doing at the time.

Ever the gentleman Pete Kegbreath stepped up and took the heat off Kristi. It seems he had another text message group, more in the nature of friends and family, on which he posted war plans prior to the attack on Yemen. This is strike 2 for Pete but he may be out anyway.

Or RFKjr for health - deciding to make an "Autism database" (for what purpose?)

https://www.facebook.com/reel/676747991976288/?s=single_unit&__cft__[0]=AZVQgCtaosODWHKE3vcobtHGbt5QP6JPUSMG8zb43km_3eqjn fZ1sz8jN0w21bB7eby_E6ZAob0W25SPj3xPENn_TUVdVqzTwJY XhpF8ceBxS3WOMUOjeLbb5KVJm3VJl4ZoEZfRnTmHdx7k65CYG w72fEoqG_hwlNwxpQ-XOx8dxCbZfd6j4pvuIb1LOuaWDFs&__tn__=H-R

jellywrestler

25th April 2025, 14:25

So did J D Vance poison the Pope on Trumps orders when he met him ? that's my new conspiracy theory

i thought he had got his 14th covid booster that morning?

Katman

25th April 2025, 15:11

Or RFKjr for health - deciding to make an "Autism database" (for what purpose?)

Maybe as a means to further understand the rate at which autism is increasing.

And why.

pete376403

25th April 2025, 15:25

Maybe as a means to further understand the rate at which autism is increasing.

And why.

OK, if the children are given Lupron it's going to solve that problem isn't it. I guess the Tusksgee syphilis experiment has just come around again. Or perhaps the forced sterilisation of handicapped children in this country

Katman

25th April 2025, 15:29

OK, if the children are given Lupron it's going to solve that problem isn't it. I guess the Tusksgee syphilis experiment has just come around again. Or perhaps the forced sterilisation of handicapped children in this country

They're your words - not mine.

onearmedbandit

25th April 2025, 15:30

Maybe as a means to further understand the rate at which autism is increasing.

And why.

The website autismspeaks can answer that for you.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-causes-autism

Why is autism on the rise?

Autism prevalence has risen due to increased awareness of autism, broader diagnostic criteria for autism, improved screening tools and standardized screening processes. These factors have led to earlier detection and more diagnoses.

Changes in diagnostic criteria: Diagnostic guidelines have evolved from the DSM-III to the current DSM-5, broadening the definition of autism. The modern autism diagnosis now includes people with lower support needs who previously got a different diagnosis or were overlooked entirely.
Improved screening tools and procedures: The development and widespread use of more effective screening tools, such as the Modified Checklist for Autism in Toddlers (M-CHAT) published in 2001, have enabled earlier and more accurate identification of autism in all young children.
Increased awareness: Greater autism awareness in the public as well as among medical professionals has led to an increase in diagnoses. In 2007, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) formally recommended that pediatricians begin incorporating standardized autism screening at 18- and 24-month well-child visits, leading to a rise in autism diagnosis and improved access to early intervention.

While the impact of other genetic and environmental factors on prevalence is still being studied, they likely account for only a small part of the increase.

Oh they also have information on the link between vaccines and autism too.

Do vaccines cause autism?

There is no connection between vaccines and autism. Autism is often diagnosed around the same time children receive routine vaccinations, which has led to concerns about a connection—but decades of scientific research have confirmed that vaccines do not cause autism. In fact, vaccines play a crucial role in protecting children from serious diseases like measles. Explore the research on vaccines and autism.

Katman

25th April 2025, 15:32

The website autismspeaks can answer that for you.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-causes-autism

Oh they also have information on the link between vaccines and autism too.

Spare me, I've heard it all before.

Katman

25th April 2025, 15:47

Satire at it's best.

356082

Pursang

25th April 2025, 21:29

...
trump asserts that trade talks are underway with China.

Beijing denies any ongoing negotiations!

https://static.toiimg.com/thumb/imgsize-23456,msid-79092589,width-600,resizemode-4/79092589.jpg

pete376403

26th April 2025, 08:10

The art of the deal

R650R

26th April 2025, 16:00

A few more epic own goals are emerging from the rather bluntly implemented tariffs coupled with chinas war material restrictions.
The new F47 stealth fighter was announced with lines like the enemy will never see it coming. Well even America won’t see it as Boeing is now named on Chinas do not export critical materials to list.
On top of that one of Boeings critical suppliers of aerospace spec fasteners has announced it’s not going to import them anymore due to tariff costs.
This is all on top of Boeing being way behind schedule and ability to deliver even passenger plane contracts.
Meanwhile China plane builder Comac is rapidly scaling up and going to be the next big or only global player as airbus and Boeing keep getting crippled by own western govt policies.
Never mind accepting Chinese made motorbikes, your next big holiday may be flying out on made in China whether you like it or not.

pritch

26th April 2025, 16:07

Time magazine have an interview with Trump. You remember when he said he would end the Ukraine war in 24 hours? He was only joking.

I'm not sure yet if this is the interview or of it's about the interview, I haven't read it yet, gotta finish the dishes.

https://time.com/7280106/trump-interview-100-days-2025/

Update - Looks like I need to buy a Time mag.

Pursang

27th April 2025, 02:29

....
356085

pritch

27th April 2025, 13:46

Trump managed to make his mark on the funeral. Apparently he demanded a seat right in front. He didn't need to, he would have been easy to spot, he hadn't even changed for the funeral. He was wearing his usual blue suit and was the only person present not wearing black. He played with his phone briefly then went to sleep.

pritch

27th April 2025, 14:06

Der Spiegel reports that German intelligence have arrested two Russian spies. Both had Pete Kegbreath's private cellphone number in their mobiles.

caseye

27th April 2025, 19:37

Ol WHUMPUM also wore a HAT at a funeral, poor ol Francis! and it was red, couldn't miss the barstard if you tried, where was the marksman?

F5 Dave

27th April 2025, 20:27

Oh fuck the old cunt was still complicit with the sexual rape his followers perpetuated on countless innocent children. That is inexcusable.

Pursang

27th April 2025, 21:20

.....
356086

husaberg

27th April 2025, 21:38

Trump managed to make his mark on the funeral. Apparently he demanded a seat right in front. He didn't need to, he would have been easy to spot, he hadn't even changed for the funeral. He was wearing his usual blue suit and was the only person present not wearing black. He played with his phone briefly then went to sleep.

Story goes prince Willy was also in blue, supposed to be a religious thing as neither is catholic?
Melania wore black and a veil and is by all accounts Catholic?

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/b2e8/live/dc677530-2293-11f0-9060-674316cb3a1f.jpg
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/aa56/live/16370c30-2280-11f0-9060-674316cb3a1f.jpg

Not sure if its true, but interesting theory.
trump was likely very confused his mate Vlad wasn't there.

Pursang

27th April 2025, 21:43

https://i2-prod.irishstar.com/news/boston-news/article35124014.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_mainsocial.jpg

Disrespectful POS's!!

Not like they can't actually afford a black suit!

FLUB

28th April 2025, 07:09

There were plenty of blue suits if you care to look. Lucky the funeral wasn't here. Everyone would be wearing board shorts and jandles.

Sent from my Pixel 8 using Tapatalk

jellywrestler

28th April 2025, 08:23

There were plenty of blue suits if you care to look. Lucky the funeral wasn't here. Everyone would be wearing board shorts and jandles.

Sent from my Pixel 8 using Tapatalk

nah, tamakis v rod lot don't do board shorts

jellywrestler

28th April 2025, 08:24

https://i2-prod.irishstar.com/news/boston-news/article35124014.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_mainsocial.jpg

Disrespectful POS's!!

Not like they can't actually afford a black suit!

i didn't realise there was a uniform required, what did you wear?

pritch

28th April 2025, 09:45

Trump has now said that ICE officers can enter homes in search of immigrants without a warrant. In a country with more guns than people that could lead to fraught situations for ICE officers arriving in a home unannounced. Rather them than me.

R650R

28th April 2025, 17:29

Trump has now said that ICE officers can enter homes in search of immigrants without a warrant. In a country with more guns than people that could lead to fraught situations for ICE officers arriving in a home unannounced. Rather them than me.

I think the sea of red and blue lights and loudspeakers kinda negates that.

In any case it’s got to be less riskier than illegal immigrants in transnational crime gangs forcing their way into homes…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JbIt11fdf4

Pursang

28th April 2025, 21:34

i didn't realise there was a uniform required, what did you wear?

I don't rate an invitation to such occasions, but the Official Vatican Invitations specified that attendees wear black!

"The Vatican, as it typically does, had a strict dress code for attendees.
For men, it dictated dark suits with white shirts and long black ties.
Shoes, long socks, coats, and umbrellas were also asked to be black to mark the occasion."

Obviously... this does not apply to trump and other egotistical, vain, self-centered, self-absorbed, ego-maniacal, and conceited 'royals'!

husaberg

28th April 2025, 23:40

I don't rate an invitation to such occasions, but the Official Vatican Invitations specified that attendees wear black!

"The Vatican, as it typically does, had a strict dress code for attendees.
For men, it dictated dark suits with white shirts and long black ties.
Shoes, long socks, coats, and umbrellas were also asked to be black to mark the occasion."

Obviously... this does not apply to trump and other egotistical, vain, self-centered, self-absorbed, ego-maniacal, and conceited 'royals'!
or Biden and his blue tie?

TheDemonLord

29th April 2025, 08:19

I don't rate an invitation to such occasions, but the Official Vatican Invitations specified that attendees wear black!

"The Vatican, as it typically does, had a strict dress code for attendees.
For men, it dictated dark suits with white shirts and long black ties.
Shoes, long socks, coats, and umbrellas were also asked to be black to mark the occasion."

Obviously... this does not apply to trump and other egotistical, vain, self-centered, self-absorbed, ego-maniacal, and conceited 'royals'!

Now, far from me to be an absolute Rules Pedant.

But the quote does not say Black.

It says Dark suits. Dark Blue or Navy Blue would comply with that.

It also says Black Ties - it appears Trump was wearing a Black Tie. It says Umbrellas were asked to be Black... but the suits? Just Dark.

In other pictures (where the sun isn't right on the suit) it looks to be... Dark blue.

pete376403

29th April 2025, 10:47

Now, far from me to be an absolute Rules Pedant.

But the quote does not say Black.

It says Dark suits. Dark Blue or Navy Blue would comply with that.

It also says Black Ties - it appears Trump was wearing a Black Tie. It says Umbrellas were asked to be Black... but the suits? Just Dark.

In other pictures (where the sun isn't right on the suit) it looks to be... Dark blue.

Colour blindness among the other things you are blind to? William had the black tie, trumps is as blue as his suit

TheDemonLord

29th April 2025, 10:52

Colour blindness among the other things you are blind to? William had the black tie, trumps is as blue as his suit

https://www.hindustantimes.com/ht-img/img/2025/04/27/550x309/trump_pope_francis_funeral_1745712365641_174571236 5919.JPG

Tie looks black to me.

I suspect it is more to do with the light/angle from the 'picture'

onearmedbandit

29th April 2025, 11:22

Come on, that tie is as blue as his suit in every picture, contrasting with all the black ties near him in the same pics.

pritch

29th April 2025, 12:34

I think the sea of red and blue lights and loudspeakers kinda negates that.

In any case it’s got to be less riskier than illegal immigrants in transnational crime gangs forcing their way into homes…

You've done it again.

There are often no lights or loudspeakers. And that's with normal cops not the amateurish fuckwits in ICE.

That clip of the Colorado apartment is old and it's "fake news".
https://www.factandmyth.com/immigration/fact-check-did-venezuelan-gangs-take-over-an-apartment-building-in-aurora-co

husaberg

29th April 2025, 20:15

Come on, that tie is as blue as his suit in every picture, contrasting with all the black ties near him in the same pics.
Anyone who attempts to say its not a blue tie is plainly Covfefe biggly Nambia fake newsing.
356094356095356096

pritch

30th April 2025, 12:07

Trump has surreptitiously raised a very large red flag. He has authorised the US military to operate in an area across three southern border states. The whole area has been redefined as a military installation. The assigned duties include search, arrest, and crowd control. US law prohibits the US military from operating in the US and against its own citizens. This is an attempt to get around the law, a low key introduction. Not unlike the boiling of the frog?

pritch

30th April 2025, 12:19

Aaaand in case that didn't bother you there's this. Section 4 refers.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/strengthening-and-unleashing-americas-law-enforcement-to-pursue-criminals-and-protect-innocent-citizens/

pritch

30th April 2025, 17:19

Pete Kegbreath has been outspokenly anti DEI. Only the best most qualified people should be appointed to any position quothe he. Obviously this does not apply to him, or to his brother, whom he appointed to a Pentagon position for which he had zero qualifications or experience.

Pete is at least nominally against waste, fraud, and abuse, and his priority is maximising the effectiveness of the "war fighters." To these ends he has installed a make up room in the Pentagon.

pete376403

1st May 2025, 09:08

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-pardons-nevada-politician-paid-cosmetic-surgery-funds-121142937

Pursang

2nd May 2025, 09:01

This has been around the net for a while.
I think it is Perfect.

356099

pritch

2nd May 2025, 15:10

Couple of items from the USA. The Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee voted to deport US citizens. Now they want to deport their own voters?

And a clip featuring Homan. It didn't work in 1945 so...

neels

2nd May 2025, 15:42

Mike Waltz is a 'good man' and isn't getting fired.....oh wait.... (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx20zw32lpgo)

It seems to be well established in politics that if someone says they fully support you, they'll be sticking a knife in your back a couple of week later.

pritch

3rd May 2025, 18:39

This is allegedly a genuine Trump post, he did say he'd like to be pope, but I have no idea. I'm not joining his Truth Social sewer to check.

Update: It seems to be genuine but Catholics don't find it funny.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360676121/trump-draws-criticism-ai-image-himself-pope-ahead-papal-conclave?cx_testId=47&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=0#cxrecs_s

pete376403

3rd May 2025, 20:07

Any minute now....

TheDemonLord

3rd May 2025, 22:19

Any minute now....

I mean... California does overwhelmingly vote Democrat....

Laava

4th May 2025, 08:01

This is allegedly a genuine Trump post, he did say he'd like to be pope, but I have no idea. I'm not joining his Truth Social sewer to check.
Is he outing himself as a paedo?
I think he should do another one depicting himself as the prophet Mohammed. That would be worth following…

nerrrd

4th May 2025, 11:39

Then there’s the interview where he insists the gentleman deported to El Salvador actually has ‘MS13’ tattooed on his knuckles, despite the interviewer gently trying to point out that those letters were added to the photo he was referring to as a key to show how the actual tattoos might be interpreted.

So by his own logic, he is actually the Pope now.

F5 Dave

4th May 2025, 12:26

How could he not be aware that it is deeply offensive to grieving Catholics. I mean imagine showing up at a family gathering wearing dear uncle John's army uniform a week after he'd popped his clogs?

And his evangelical following who may think he's Jesus, would be aghast at even considering him as a Catholic deity. I mean Jesus wasn't a Catholic.

sugilite

4th May 2025, 14:09

How could he not be aware that it is deeply offensive to grieving Catholics. I mean imagine showing up at a family gathering wearing dear uncle John's army uniform a week after he'd popped his clogs?

And his evangelical following who may think he's Jesus, would be aghast at even considering him as a Catholic deity. I mean Jesus wasn't a Catholic.
It's the typical petty grievance filled fuck you from trump. The pope gave a speech a whilez back that criticizes trumps handling of immigrants.

Credit where credit is due for trump though. I have to admit, he is getting pretty good at winning elections now. Just in the last week he has won both the Canadian and Australian elections....................... for the left. Impressive :laugh:

Laava

4th May 2025, 14:14

Lols, it had to be done!…

pritch

4th May 2025, 19:06

Lols, it had to be done!…

Incoming fatwa for fatso?

pritch

4th May 2025, 21:54

Y'all may be aware Putin is to have a large military parade in Moscow on the ninth to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the end of WW2. Putin has invited some world leaders to attend - including Trump. Military weaponry is a legitimate target in time of war. Zelensky has issued a statement that he cannot guarantee the safety of anyone attending the parade.

How's that for balls?

Laava

5th May 2025, 00:29

Please newly found god, let him rain down the IBMs! Amen.

oh, and, er, hallefuckenluyah!

pritch

6th May 2025, 09:28

The other night a movie is shown on Trump's local TV station: "Escape From Alcatraz." Next day Trump announces he's reopening Alcatraz. A remarkable coincidence.
Feasibility studies? Detailed planning? Careful costings? I think not. Talk about waste fraud and abuse...

husaberg

7th May 2025, 18:17

Pursang

10th May 2025, 00:41

Every now and then, something about the United States of Lunacy gives me a smile.
356129

Pursang

12th May 2025, 08:08

https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED764/6815e56d13ece.webp

R650R

12th May 2025, 19:41

Beyond the grave. There’s a lot of debate about using AI to complete dead authors unfinished books.
But I just got chaTGPT to do a Hunter S Thompson spiel on Trump and I’m not disappointed. Think you’ll all enjoy

By the late Hunter S. Thompson (not really, but damned close)

Somewhere near the flaming edge of the American Dream

There’s something grotesque about waking up in the year of our Lord 2016 and finding that the President of the United States is a bloated real estate huckster from Queens who made his name slapping gold on skyscrapers and peddling snake oil to rubes on late-night TV. And yet, there he is—Donald J. Trump—grinning like a jackal in a red power tie, waving his tiny fists while the republic burns behind him like a derailed oil train.

I’ve seen some bad acts in American politics—Nixon slinking around the White House like a vampire in a windbreaker, Reagan playing cowboy while his brain turned to pudding, the Bush dynasty treating the Constitution like a bar tab they could stick someone else with—but Trump... Trump is something new. Not a politician. Not even a man, really. More like a weaponized symptom of the disease we’ve all been pretending we didn’t have for the last 50 years. Late-stage capitalism given flesh and spray tan.

Make no mistake: this isn’t politics. This is reality porn for the chronically online. The elevation of a man with the attention span of a concussed ferret and the moral code of a slot machine into the most powerful seat on the planet. The Beast has breached the gate, and it’s tweeting at 3 a.m. about toilet pressure and celebrity grudges.

People say he’s a genius because he “tells it like it is.” No—what he tells is the lie so enormous, so cartoonishly vile, that it short-circuits the critical faculties of half the electorate. He’s the chaos candidate, a foghorn in a library, a carnival barker who accidentally got elected King and then tried to run the country like one of his failed casinos—loud, gaudy, bankrupt in six months, and reeking of unpaid contractors.

And the people love it. Christ, they love it. Because Trump didn’t hijack America—he is America, or at least the ugly, bloated, steroid-fed caricature we’ve been selling to the world for decades. He’s the logical endpoint of our obsession with celebrity, with wealth, with dominance without dignity. He’s everything we warned about when we said the center couldn’t hold—but we laughed too hard at the warning, thinking the joke was on someone else.

It wasn’t.

Now we’re all in it—neck-deep in the swamp he promised to drain, watching him install family members and golf buddies while the grifters gorge themselves and the news becomes indistinguishable from satire. The country is a sideshow, the world is on fire, and the president is angry because someone didn’t like his tie.

The American Dream? That’s long dead. Trump just dug up the corpse, slapped a wig on it, and sold tickets to the freak show.

God help us all.

pritch

12th May 2025, 20:15

Qatar is in the process of making a gift to Trump of a Boeing "whorehouse in the sky" worth some $400,000.00. Well it will officially be donated to the government because for Trump to accept it would be cause for impeachment. When he leaves office the plan is that ownership would transfer to the Trump library. A cruel joke because the Trump library would fit in the map pocket behind your car seat. In reality the ownership would transfer to Trump.

The plan is to spend big bucks adding the extra comms gear, inflight refuelling capability and anti missile defences etc needed to bring it up to Air Force 1 standard.

There is a slight inconvenience though, the US Constitution which states in the foreign emolument clause as follows:
"Nor shall any person holding any office of profit or trust under the United States, or any of them, accept any present, emolument, office or title of any kind whatever from any King, Prince or foreign State; nor shall the United States in Congress assembled, or any of them, grant any title of nobility."

King, Prince or foreign state? Trump scored a hat trick there.

The Justice Dept has OK'd the arrangement. That'd be the DoJ headed by Attorney General Pam Bondi, formerly paid over a million dollars a year to act as registered foreign agent for the state of Qatar. No conflict of interest there then.

If the Democrats don't strive to throw an outsize spanner in the works they might as well give up.

pete376403

12th May 2025, 20:20

Beyond the grave. There’s a lot of debate about using AI to complete dead authors unfinished books.
But I just got chaTGPT to do a Hunter S Thompson spiel on Trump and I’m not disappointed. Think you’ll all enjoy

By the late Hunter S. Thompson (not really, but damned close)

Somewhere near the flaming edge of the American Dream

God help us all.

That's pretty good. Now get a George Carlin monologue on trump

R650R

12th May 2025, 22:20

That's pretty good. Now get a George Carlin monologue on trump

Damn this is a bit addictive and it nails anyone’s style so good.

GEORGE CARLIN ON DONALD TRUMP (Channeling the Ghost of Brutal Honesty)

You want to talk about Donald Trump?

This guy isn’t a politician — he’s a game show host who wandered onto the wrong set and decided to start bombing the script. And America, bless its chemically-addled soul, cheered him on like he was the second coming of Thomas Jefferson in a Brioni suit.

But let’s not get confused here. Trump didn’t ruin America. Oh no. He’s the natural byproduct of a country that worships money, bullies, and big shiny things. He’s the orange zit on the face of a bloated culture that thinks fast food is a food group and billionaires are messiahs.

You wanted a straight-talker? You got a guy who lies with the confidence of a televangelist on meth. You wanted an outsider? You got a real estate huckster who’s been neck-deep in the system his entire life — just on the side that buys the politicians instead of pretending to be one.

This guy speaks to the “forgotten man,” sure — but only if the forgotten man is a loudmouth uncle who gets banned from Applebee’s for screaming about windmills and Hillary Clinton.

But hey, let’s not make this just about Trump. He’s not the disease — he’s the rash. The itchy, inflamed, loud-mouthed rash that pops up after decades of American stupidity, greed, and willful ignorance. And half the country scratched it raw and called it patriotism.

So yeah, Trump’s a clown — but the circus has been in town a long, long time. He just ran off with the megaphone and the keys to the Ferris wheel.

And you know what the real joke is?

He didn’t lie to the American people — he told them exactly what they wanted to hear. Over and over. Loudly. With hand gestures. And a red hat.

⸻

Closing Note (Carlin-style):
“Trump isn’t the end of the world. He’s just what it looks like when the empire starts using its outside voice.”

nerrrd

13th May 2025, 18:01

Qatar is in the process of making a gift to Trump of a Boeing "whorehouse in the sky" worth some $400,000.00.

Jeez I’d buy one for that…who am I kidding.

It’s 400 million though, obviously, I mean President Trump wouldn’t be seen dead in a jet worth $400,000.

Coincidentally I saw not one, but two Rolls Royces this afternoon, the SUV one (yikes, also fixed wheel hubs with the logo on them, what’s that about? How gauche) and the more typical sedan. He likes Rolls Royces also, no tariffs on them, because of course you can’t build them anywhere else but in Britain…except for all the BMW componentry.

husaberg

13th May 2025, 18:10

https://youtu.be/EMyvarVRvOI

pritch

14th May 2025, 14:23

Ain't it funny how time slips away...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/APQY9CiY7CA

pritch

14th May 2025, 17:14

Omaha Nebraska has its first ever black mayor in a 20 point swing against the incumbent Republican. The incumbent ran on banning trans people from public restrooms, the successful challenger ran on fixing potholes.

This result will blow a chill wind through Congress. Republicans will note the result and contemplate the effect that a twenty point swing would have in their district.

Ah well, it seems we only have an impeachment vote coming up. Nothing serious then.

TheDemonLord

14th May 2025, 19:24

So, I have been seeing this a lot on Left-Wing Content, which I find hilarious.

Consider a video or a post screaming about how terrible and Fascistic the Trump Government is.

Someone will reply or comment on it "We have had enough! When are we going to start FIGHTING BACK! and not protesting!"

And then something magical happens:

"So, I guess you'll be supporting the 2nd Amendment now"

Followed by screeching from the Left.

I have seen this multiple times and it constantly amuses me.

R650R

14th May 2025, 22:35

So, I have been seeing this a lot on Left-Wing Content, which I find hilarious.

Consider a video or a post screaming about how terrible and Fascistic the Trump Government is.

Someone will reply or comment on it "We have had enough! When are we going to start FIGHTING BACK! and not protesting!"

And then something magical happens:

"So, I guess you'll be supporting the 2nd Amendment now"

Followed by screeching from the Left.

I have seen this multiple times and it constantly amuses me.

And of the other claims they made too….

No one has been rounded up into work camps or the like ( except those who entered country illegally and were deported) so all AMERICAN citizens 100% safe.
Trump hasn’t suspended the constitution or declared himself king
He hasn’t engaged in retaliatory style lawfare against political opponents.
And now the stock market has returned to the same levels it was six weeks ago before all the drama and is set to climb again

Laava

15th May 2025, 15:46

ten characters

sugilite

16th May 2025, 15:20

And of the other claims they made too….

No one has been rounded up into work camps or the like ( except those who entered country illegally and were deported) so all AMERICAN citizens 100% safe.
Tourists not so much, so many countries are issuing travel advisory notices as they have had a large up tick in overzealous border agents detaining and strip searching then deporting tourists for the crime of having anti trump sentiments on their phones. - this includes the nz government saying beware btw.

Trump hasn’t suspended the constitution or declared himself king
Not in words, but in actions, trying to get rid of birthrights, and rights to due process under the flimsiest of reasons, and lets not forget his team fighting to get a him a 3rd term, Steve Bannon and Steven "Dracula" Miller. And there is the small matter of defying a direct unanimous ruling from the supreme court. Sounds like the actions of a wannabe king to me.

He hasn’t engaged in retaliatory style lawfare against political opponents.
Political opponents, no - but media and law firms, absolutely yes - lawfare galore there.

And now the stock market has returned to the same levels it was six weeks ago before all the drama and is set to climb again
What about the many people who have lost their jobs due to the tariff uncertainties, some large car manufacturers have closed down plants since trump started his stupid tariff wars. It is not all about just the stock markets.
Because his tariffs potentially effect my business I have been keeping an eye on what he says. I carefully watched his state of the nation speech and liberation day speech and he listed a wide range of "feel good" policies that were going to be financed by these tariffs. He also said manufacturing will come back to the USA. I mean would you have the confidence to build a plant when the guy in charge changes his mind by the hour? Lets take the China tariffs. China kinda just sat back, issued a few tariff hikes of their own and not much more, in the mean time trump spits out crazy shit for weeks, with no end of big noting, then ultimately capitulates and declares a win. China gave up nothing.
So how is trump going to finance these policies without this big tariff windfalls?

The moron is a complete fuckwit, no matter the metric you measure him by.

jim.cox

16th May 2025, 15:52

The moron is a complete fuckwit, no matter the metric you measure him by.

Ahem
Them merkins dont do metric
They threw off the yoke of Imperialism a couple of centuries ago
Yet they stuck with the measurement system (go figure)
It still fits though...

The moron is a complete fuckwit, no matter the imperial system you measure him by. :crazy::yes:

pritch

16th May 2025, 17:20

\
No one has been rounded up into work camps or the like ( except those who entered country illegally and were deported) so all AMERICAN citizens 100% safe.
Trump hasn’t suspended the constitution or declared himself king
He hasn’t engaged in retaliatory style lawfare against political opponents.

!00% factually incorrect.

People have been rounded up and sent to camps in the US. These are "black sites" the people cannot be contacted by lawyers or anybody else. American citizens are not safe, US citizens have been deported. Also immigrants who have served in the military, and thus qualify for citizenship, have also been deported.

Trump is ignoring the Constitution and the Supreme Court. So saying he hasn't suspended the Constitution (yet) is playing with semantics.

A judge was arrested for doing her job. Trump's FBI Director has said he will prosecute people he perceives as enemies of Trump. It seems though that currently he's more interested in night clubs than work. In his case that's a good thing.

F5 Dave

16th May 2025, 20:58

Don't expect anything other than disinformation from 666, he just repeats whatever his social media Bots feed him.

And ironically he will likely think other people are sheep. <_<

sugilite

19th May 2025, 12:39

Ahem
Them merkins dont do metric
They threw off the yoke of Imperialism a couple of centuries ago

It is all fun and games until the imperial death star shows up! :laugh:

F5 Dave

19th May 2025, 12:43

Yeah. If it pops in for an oil change.
Oh dang! Rounded the sump bolt. Hey what the dang size is this?:blink:

pritch

20th May 2025, 10:39

Following storms in the mid west leaving twenty eight dead and dozens injured, people in Kentucky are waiting in vain for relief to arrive from the federal government. FEMA, the federal government relief agency, was gutted by DOGE. They have neither the staff nor the funding to provide assistance. Similarly the meteorological services were reduced and after hours coverage was cut completely resulting in some of the storms arriving without warning.

Officials in Kentucky say they have had no contact from central government at all. Trump who has said that the states should look after their own problems, recently made a rambling speech but made no mention of the disaster at all. Almost as if it hasn't happened.

Kentucky, Missouri, and Texas will not yet have had time to ponder the thought that elections have consequences.

R650R

20th May 2025, 11:00

While that sounds like a lot to us in a country of 330 million you can’t be at every bad event

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/weather-related-deaths-and-injuries/

Over the last five years, weather-related deaths are up 20% from 2019 and injuries have increased 120%, while the number of weather events have increased 11%. In 2023, 75,104 weather events resulted in 877 deaths and 3,857 injuries. Heat, wildfires, and tornadoes were responsible for the most deaths during 2023. The largest number of reported injuries resulted from heat, tornadoes, and winter weather. The deadliest weather events in the United States over the past five years include winter weather in 2021, drought and heat wave in 2023, and drought and heat wave in 2021.

Laava

20th May 2025, 11:11

https://www.ducati.community/attachments/1747692195641-webp.138933/

pete376403

20th May 2025, 17:01

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-pay-5-million-settle-lawsuit-ashli/story?id=121959389

killed while rioting,.

pritch

21st May 2025, 12:35

While that sounds like a lot to us in a country of 330 million you can’t be at every bad event

It's not the job of FEMA to be 'at every bad event'. It's their job to be there immediately after the event to assist the potentially thousands of people who have no water, food, or shelter.

Since DOGE gutted the staff FEMA currently lack sufficient people with the technical knowledge to do the job. We have all seen how Trump performs in an emergency situation. He's as much use as the proverbial chocolate tea pot.

F5 Dave

21st May 2025, 12:43

Gee. Who could have predicted that?

Actually, I can think of some.

pritch

24th May 2025, 12:35

Trump has had a series of meetings with Tim Cook of Apple. Trump wants iPhones manufactured in the US. This is not a matter of bringing production back to the US, iPhones have not previously been manufactured in the US. The estimated cost of a US iPhone is in the region of US$3500 nearly NZ$5900. That's a tad expensive.

pritch

24th May 2025, 18:27

Trump seems to have declared war on Harvard. Anyone else get the impression that Barron Trump applied to go to Harvard but that his application was not successful?

pritch

26th May 2025, 13:01

The cartoon is funny. Extra humour accrues though because one person hereabout read Trump's book in the mistaken belief that Trump actually wrote it. That person, who shall remain nameless, even went so far as to quote it here.

F5 Dave

26th May 2025, 13:25

Oh that's priceless. :laugh:

sugilite

26th May 2025, 17:19

In terms with the "gifted" 400 million dollar jet, mark my words, that plane will not be ready by the time trump leaves office and ownership of it essentially moves to him. And this crypto coin bullshit he is peddling is a very REAL problem. They are not even trying to hide the abject corruption now.
Trumps so called skills at bringing truce to wars has resulted in a predictably miserable failure.
And the so called big beautiful deal adds trillions to their national debt.
Not long before trump got back in, I mentioned here that the republicans are only fiscal hawks when they are not in power and morph into reckless spenders the moment they are in power - and our resident trump apologist said, oh no, no , no they don't. Yet just a handful of months later - here we are. I do not expect a walk back on that as when it comes to trump, honesty and integrity goes out the door with that one.

R650R

26th May 2025, 18:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YV_R_8RD3w

pritch

27th May 2025, 07:45

Not long before trump got back in, I mentioned here that the republicans are only fiscal hawks when they are not in power and morph into reckless spenders the moment they are in power - and our resident trump apologist said, oh no, no , no they don't. Yet just a handful of months later - here we are. I do not expect a walk back on that as when it comes to trump, honesty and integrity goes out the door with that one.

That's true and verifiable. Clinton had to deal with economic problems left by Bush Snr. Obama had to sort the GFC left by Bush Jnr. Biden sorted the wreckage left by Trump who immediately set about undoing all that had been done when elected again.

husaberg

27th May 2025, 17:35

That's true and verifiable. Clinton had to deal with economic problems left by Bush Snr. Obama had to sort the GFC left by Bush Jnr. Biden sorted the wreckage left by Trump who immediately set about undoing all that had been done when elected again.

Odd, Trumps now calling putin crazy and has just suddenly realised that Putin is targeting civilians.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UAeMpiqzAM

pete376403

28th May 2025, 00:36

Odd, Trumps now calling putin crazy and has just suddenly realised that Putin is targeting civilians...

https://mindsitenews.org/2025/04/01/sanewashed-trump-dementia-and-mental-illness/

R650R

29th May 2025, 15:56

‘Merica just got couple things right this week, probably without Trumps help too.

Iowa state just passed bill 645, you can no longer complain/sue about noise or anything else related to a motorsports venue if it was there before you bought your house. This sounds like something Seymour or Jones could run with and get passed here.

De Santis in Florida announced physical Gold and Silver be legal tender tender to settle all debts and poured cold water on the idea of a central bank digital currrncy which lot of people are talking about. Cash is still king for now….

One wonders though if it’s just like the crypto bill about making it easier for state to sell assets seized from drug lords than preserving financial freedom but it’s a win anyway.

pritch

30th May 2025, 19:17

It seems Trump is not pleased with his new name TACO. Trump Always Chickens Out. He said he had never heard that. I'm not surprised, any staff member telling him about that would be looking for a job.

In a very long Truth Social post he had a good whinge about judges among other things. The judges finding against him in court on an almost daily basis are not the left wing nutters he seems to think. Some were appointed by Republican presidents including Trump himself. He explains that he just appointed names put forward to him by the Federalist Society. We knew that but now he is unhappy about it. He calls Leonard Leo a sleazebag. That might be biting the hand that feeds you though. Leonard Leo, he who has bought and paid for a couple of Supreme Court justices, is a billionaire donator to right wing US causes.

In conclusion a little Schadenfreude? Stephen Miller, the architect of Trump's immigration policies and an all round arsehole, was married a while back to the surprise of many. It seems the relationship may have struck rocks. His bride has left the White House to work for Elon Musk. It's thought by many that the new arrangement is not entirely employment related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UR5_2SFilg

pete376403

2nd June 2025, 21:02

Just keeps getting better - Taco is now claiming Biden died in 2020 and was replaced by a clone. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-biden-clone-not-real-truth-social-b2761770.html

Meanwhile the "big beautiful bill" has a provision, hidden away, that "No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued….”

Translated: No federal court may enforce a contempt citation.
https://robertreich.substack.com/p/the-hidden-provision-in-the-big-ugly

So not only does taco want to be king, looks like he wants to be a mad king

F5 Dave

3rd June 2025, 07:24

Ooh. A robotic clone no less. Didn't know we had that technology.

But why do that, then make the clone so dozy and likely to lose the election? :confused:

Just asking questions.

pritch

4th June 2025, 11:00

FEMA, the US government department that responds to natural disasters, has a newly appointed head. It also has a new homepage warning of the approaching hurricane season. When the new head saw the new homepage he told staff he didn't know there was a hurricane season. Another top man on the job.

https://www.fema.gov/

Laava

4th June 2025, 11:34

I see, on Stuff, and predictably, that Elon is now making disparaging remarks about the big beautiful bill. I wondered how long it would take to start the niggling and how much longer before Trump calls him a nasty person? Inevitable right?

jim.cox

4th June 2025, 11:38

how much longer before Trump calls him a nasty person? Inevitable right?

Well, Musk IS a nasty person! So for once Trump might be telling the truth

Laava

4th June 2025, 14:26

I did not think that thru!😂😂😂

pritch

6th June 2025, 09:13

The Trump /Musk break up is getting ugly. Musk says the reason it's taking so long to release the Epstein files is that Trump features large. Most people would have assumed that already but confirmation is always nice.

R650R

6th June 2025, 09:34

The Trump /Musk break up is getting ugly. Musk says the reason it's taking so long to release the Epstein files is that Trump features large. Most people would have assumed that already but confirmation is always nice.

Just read that news too. Not defending Trump but I’d say there’s a lot of big names that would have been in that circle but absent witnesses we’ll never know what level of knowledge they had.

Musk has kinda thrown himself under the bus, because he’s just admitting to knowing about this information and only used it to his own benefit when he’s not getting his own way. No one’s going to trust him in business circles if he’s gonna throw dirt when deals go sour.

Popcorn time for sure

pritch

6th June 2025, 11:40

Just read that news too. Not defending Trump but I’d say there’s a lot of big names that would have been in that circle but absent witnesses we’ll never know what level of knowledge they had.

There was a govt inquiry into Epstein and that's what the MAGA people want released. They imagine it will incriminate Democrats. It may incriminate Democrats but likely the name most featured other than Epstein is Trump. Which will be why the information is still not forthcoming as promised.

Things are still heating up, Steve Bannon has called for Elon Musk to be deported.

sugilite

6th June 2025, 12:33

There was a govt inquiry into Epstein and that's what the MAGA people want released. They imagine it will incriminate Democrats.

Maga and critical thinking are forever divorced, behold the first comment on fox news over musks trump/epstein confirmation.

https://andys-kawasaki-zxr-zx7r-tribute-site.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Screenshot-2025-06-06-122150.png

Yep, 340 dumb arse magas have not considered the dems will have a load of their own on that list :laugh:

Things are still heating up, Steve Bannon has called for Elon Musk to be deported.
If I were one of those South African white refuges escaping the "white genocide" I would not be unpacking my suitcases just yet.

I wonder how our resident trump/musk fanboi is taking this breakup?

Add musks name to the already exceedingly long list of dimwits who thought trump would have their back :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Laava

6th June 2025, 16:53

No! Trump and Elon are awesome! In a WWF kinda way! Trump has the speech down pat!
But yeah, you'd have to be seriously retarded/easily brainwashed to imagine that either of these clowns were ever going to be good for a nation.

sugilite

6th June 2025, 17:58

Trumps administration - the most corrupt in history.

<iframe width="315" height="560" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/e31KVoDWbL4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Pursang

6th June 2025, 20:51

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aW42Az2_460swp.webp

pritch

8th June 2025, 17:35

Interesting. Farming operations in red states rely on undocumented immigrants in the thousands. So ICE is raiding court houses in LA, arresting people who are endeavouring to obtain legal status by the proper means. Hardly the hardened criminals famed cuckold Stephen Miller keeps ranting about. Naturally the citizens of LA have protested. Trump has ordered the National Guard to deploy. The power to deploy the Guard belongs with the Governor of California, not the president. There is an act of Congress specifically forbidding this exact situation. Pete Kegbreath reportedly wants to deploy the US Marines in LA. Again unlawfull.

Apparently we now have a race between the courts ordering the troops withdrawn and Trump declaring Martial Law. Even if he can't spell it.

It seemed to me that the Democrats were always unduly optimistic about the mid term elections. If martial law is declared, King Trump can probably postpone the elections.

I'll have to start listening to stateside constitutional experts again to fully understand the ramifications. Meanwhile we await developments with bated breath.

TheDemonLord

8th June 2025, 19:36

So ICE is raiding court houses in LA, arresting people who are endeavouring to obtain legal status by the proper means.

Trying to do it by the proper means would mean leaving the USA, going back to where they are a Citizen or Legal Resident, then applying for the correct residency Visa.

As for LA - well, California has the highest proportion of Illegal Migrants - so it stands to reason that this is why ICE would be targetting California.

R650R

9th June 2025, 00:20

Just imagine if undocumented migrants were wealthy through some miracle discovery in their homeland. Suddenly the same people defending them would be trying to keep out the wealthy colonisers…
I wonder how many of these people leave their doors unlocked gates open and welcome any stranger into their home to stay indefinitely…
Just imagine if Putin had the foresight to send his troops westwards with suitcases and blankets en masse instead of guns and called it the Special Undocumented Migration Operation. A giant SUMO wrestler mass of people just stopping by indefinitely….

pritch

9th June 2025, 09:22

Trying to do it by the proper means would mean leaving the USA, going back to where they are a Citizen or Legal Resident, then applying for the correct residency Visa.

As for LA - well, California has the highest proportion of Illegal Migrants - so it stands to reason that this is why ICE would be targetting California.

Wrong on the first, that's just the gospel according to MAGA. Probably wrong on the second too. There is no intellectual reason for what is happening, it is motivated purely by hate.

TheDemonLord

9th June 2025, 09:49

Wrong on the first, that's just the gospel according to MAGA. Probably wrong on the second too. There is no intellectual reason for what is happening, it is motivated purely by hate.

I think as an Immigrant to another country, I might know a thing or two about the Immigration process.

If they are already in the country with a valid temporary Visa, going for their Green Card (Permanent Residency Visa) - then they have nothing to fear.

In almost all cases - One has to apply for a temporary Visa before entering the country.

There is a Change of Status process - but this more for exceptional circumstances - e.g. I was lawfully in the USA on Holiday (not an Illegal Migrant) and I was headhunted by a US Company for a job that was too good to pass up and they needed a start ASAP.

And no, I do not believe that they are all valid Asylum seekers.

Sauce (https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-states-illegal-immigration-2010192#:~:text=You%20can%20contact%20Billal%20at% 20b.rahman%40newsweek.com.&text=California%20and%20Texas%20remained%20the,whi le%20Texas%20had%202.1%20million.)

California and Texas remained the leading states for undocumented immigrant populations in 2022, accounting for 42 percent of the 10.99 million U.S. total, a Newsweek map shows.

California had 2.6 million unauthorized immigrants, while Texas had 2.1 million.

So correct on the second one - which means there is very much an intellectual reason for this being done - namely you go to where the problem is the most prevalent.

I will grant that since California is a Demorat state and opposes this, there is an element of Political Theatre - But that opens up a whole load of other questions.

pritch

9th June 2025, 10:49

[QUOTE=TheDemonLord;1131237240]

If they are already in the country with a valid temporary Visa, going for their Green Card (Permanent Residency Visa) - then they have nothing to fear.

Not so. Even citizens are being trafficked. The word deported is not appropriate in the circumstances.

Notwithstanding that even you don't believe much of what you post. There is no path to citizenship for illegal immigrants in the US. You confused that with legal status. Illegal immigrants may become legal immigrants which is why they would be attending court hearings.

Don't try and intellectualise any of this Stephen Miller just hates brown people. It's just that simple. He is especially angry at the moment because it seems his bride has left him for Elon Musk. Katie evidently has abysmal taste in blokes.

Trump simply wants vengeance against Democrats. He recently threatened to cut federal funding to California. Ironic because most federal funding comes from the likes of California and New York. The red states mostly exist on federal welfare.

Some states would likely have a higher proportion of illegal immigrants. Their major industries rely on them. Intensive farming and meat packing plants are almost entirely staffed by undocumented immigrants. It would be easy to round them up but catastrophic to the local economy. Even Trump's golf courses rely on immigrant labour to a large extent.

Anyhoo you will believe what you choose as will I.

pritch

9th June 2025, 10:57

In case anyone was wondering what Trump did to deserve the gift of a flying whorehouse jet from Qatar. President Zelensky of Ukraine has announced that shipments of US anti aircraft defences intended for Ukraine have been diverted to the Middle East.

TheDemonLord

9th June 2025, 12:54

Not so. Even citizens are being trafficked. The word deported is not appropriate in the circumstances.

Eh.... The most recent case I can think of where a so-called 'Citizen' was Deported... Turns out they were not a Citizen at all. And had gone through 2 court processes that ordered Deportation.

Of course, there are dependents - but they aren't being 'Deported' as such, they are remaining with their legal guardian (who is being deported)

There is no path to citizenship for illegal immigrants in the US.

Yes there is, Leave the country and then apply properly.... Like everyone else.

You confused that with legal status. Illegal immigrants may become legal immigrants which is why they would be attending court hearings.

Which would be a Change of Status. Most often this is via Asylum - but very rarely successful. Most of them know they do not meet the Legal requirements to be a Legal Immigrant - that's why they entered Illegally in the first place.

Don't try and intellectualise any of this Stephen Miller just hates brown people.

I disagree. Putting aside various Economic and Social arguments - the key crux that I hear from many Republicans is this: They broke the Law and should not be here - removing them from the US and returning them to where they came from is Justice - it is the right thing to do.

The fact that we have come to the point in Western Politics where we no longer have a consensus around Legal vs Illegal Migration is absurd to me - even more so that there are many elements where an actual discussion could be had.

Trump simply wants vengeance against Democrats. He recently threatened to cut federal funding to California. Ironic because most federal funding comes from the likes of California and New York. The red states mostly exist on federal welfare.

Maybe he does.

Although I am reminded of another instance where a Republican President had to mobilize the Military to enforce federal rules on a Democratic State and Democrat Governor who was openly trying to defy them. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine)

Just a thought...

jim.cox

9th June 2025, 16:47

He said he was going to annex Canada
He said he was going to take Greenland
He didn't say anything about invading California

sugilite

9th June 2025, 17:51

What a wonderful manufactured distraction to his getting a good head start on gutting medicare/aid, adding TRILLIONS to the debt, completely failing to end the the war he promised he would in 24 hours - it is six months now for those counting ;) And lets not get started on his completely failed TACO tariff dumpster fire.

With all that mess going on, trump could hardly wait to put the troops in and indeed - did not. His war on America is going exactly to plan.
Tragedy upon the American people bought to you by GREEEEEEEED & CORRUPTION.

Laava

9th June 2025, 20:25

All of this shit has been a deliberate action by Trump. All of it. Is that treason?

husaberg

9th June 2025, 20:51

All of this shit has been a deliberate action by Trump. All of it. Is that treason?

I am confused how a protest of the other side of the USA is a danger to democracy, and yet a insurrection attacking the seat of Govt in Washington was just a peaceful protest..:facepalm:

R650R

10th June 2025, 00:37

I bet there’s a lot of people out there forgetting what they had to say about the beehive protestors….

Suddenly “free speech” is fashionable again. I wonder what the fire and fury doco makers would have to say about all this.
Every now and then something happens that illustrates a new level of dumbness. Some of the protesters have decided to ram the police lines while riding small motorbikes with a probability of success being zero. Multiple federal crimes are involved, asssukt on police and with a weapon, prob deadly weapon, anyhow jail terms are looking around 40 year mark. At least in jail they will spend time with many former undocumented migrants….

On a side note if you thought MI6/CIA/SBU drones launching out of trucks was clever( blatant tipoff of the world in conflict game franchise from 20 years ago) the California protestors have taken guerilla warfare/insurgency to a new level. They’ve been summoning driverless Waymo cars spray painting their propoganda on them then setting g them on fire as barricades.
Guess you could call it dial a bonfire.

pritch

10th June 2025, 09:04

I am confused how a protest of the other side of the USA is a danger to democracy, and yet a insurrection attacking the seat of Govt in Washington was just a peaceful protest..:facepalm:

True. Trump is now referring to what is happening in LA as an insurrection. That's total bollox of course but observers think that he is preparing to invoke the Insurrection Act. Sadly that is probably correct, it was the plan all along.

sugilite

10th June 2025, 09:42

Cockwomble trump has 500 marines on the way to LA now to "protect" government property.
He is testing how complient and loyal the armed forces are to him. And I fear they will be.

Again, a fantastic distraction at worst, and a accelerated time line to a dictatorship at best for trump. This was always the plan.

HenryDorsetCase

10th June 2025, 10:21

Here we see the beginning of American Civil War, part deux. Buckle up kids!

HenryDorsetCase

10th June 2025, 10:23

I bet there’s a lot of people out there forgetting what they had to say about the beehive protestors….

Nah mate, cunts then, cunts now.

nerrrd

10th June 2025, 10:27

…They’ve been summoning driverless Waymo cars spray painting their propoganda on them then setting g them on fire as barricades.
Guess you could call it dial a bonfire.

Not cheap, those cars ($100,000+ US). Doubtful if they’re comprehensively insured either, given the nature of the business. Ouch.

R650R

10th June 2025, 12:21

Ever notice how down trodden oppressed broken arse poor protestors always managed to have nice professional printed signs and banners? Some else is always pulling the strings and paying the bill for these rent a mobs.

And now someone’s done some timely research interesting read

https://notthebee.com/article/someone-did-a-deep-dive-on-whos-funding-the-la-riots-and-the-answer-is-the-lease-surprising-thing-ever?

HenryDorsetCase

10th June 2025, 12:23

Ever notice how down trodden oppressed broken arse poor protestors always managed to have nice professional printed signs and banners? Some else is always pulling the strings and paying the bill for these rent a mobs.

And now someone’s done some timely research interesting read

https://notthebee.com/article/someone-did-a-deep-dive-on-whos-funding-the-la-riots-and-the-answer-is-the-lease-surprising-thing-ever?

What a lot of shit. I have brain cancer from clicking that link.

Who cares who is funding it. We know the cunts that bought and paid for america and I dont care who funds the opposition to them as long as there is some. EAT THE FUCKING RICH

Katman

10th June 2025, 12:42

I have brain cancer from clicking that link.

Nah, that'll be the vaccine.

sugilite

10th June 2025, 12:49

What a lot of shit. I have brain cancer from clicking that link.

Who cares who is funding it. We know the cunts that bought and paid for america and I dont care who funds the opposition to them as long as there is some. EAT THE FUCKING RICH

Cockwomble trumps authoritarianism oligarchy is making socialism look pretty enticing right now.

HenryDorsetCase

10th June 2025, 12:51

Nah, that'll be the vaccine.

How's that polio treating you? Made it as far as your brain I see... or is that the syphilis?

HenryDorsetCase

10th June 2025, 12:51

Cockwomble trumps authoritarianism oligarchy is making socialism look pretty enticing right now.

As an ardent anarcho-socialist I approve of this message

TheDemonLord

10th June 2025, 12:52

EAT THE FUCKING RICH

Until you are the Rich that they are eating. ;)

R650R

10th June 2025, 14:22

Thought for the day. If this is how people (protestors) who legitimately belong in America behave, you couldn’t have a better illustration of why it’s important to check who you let in the country.

My moneys on the other states making Californians apply for a visa to cross state lines next.

R650R

10th June 2025, 14:25

What a lot of shit. I have brain cancer from clicking that link.

Who cares who is funding it. We know the cunts that bought and paid for america and I dont care who funds the opposition to them as long as there is some. EAT THE FUCKING RICH

I think people trying to get to work on rock covered freeways will care.

I think people with jobs whose taxes will pay for all the damage will care.

I think the critically ill elderly or cancer patients who couldn’t get to hospital due to protests will care.

Socialists want everything YOU have except your job and personal responsibility.

HenryDorsetCase

10th June 2025, 15:58

Until you are the Rich that they are eating. ;)

Zero chance of that I'm afraid

HenryDorsetCase

10th June 2025, 16:00

I think people trying to get to work on rock covered freeways will care.

I think people with jobs whose taxes will pay for all the damage will care.

I think the critically ill elderly or cancer patients who couldn’t get to hospital due to protests will care.

Socialists want everything YOU have except your job and personal responsibility.

That is simply untrue, and is ad hominem. Your premises do not support your conclusion.

TheDemonLord

10th June 2025, 16:13

Zero chance of that I'm afraid

Thus spake every revolutionary, ever.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

pete376403

10th June 2025, 19:40

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1277769427102741

For those who dont/wont facebook, it is a clip of Kristi Noem condemning Joe Bidens threat of use of natl guard in South Dakota

sugilite

11th June 2025, 09:46

Trump is sending even more troops.
Get used to this, as this new found trump distraction method is a doozy.
So expect him to ignite and inflame mini wars every time he fucks something else up or screws the middle/lower classes - which is all the time.

Just wait to see what he does when the mid terms don't go the republicans way.

TheDemonLord

11th June 2025, 10:15

I dunno - the Mexican President is telling me that the 'protesters' are Patriotic Mexicans.

The pictures show people waving Mexican flags, wearing Keffiyehs, chanting anti-American and revolutionary slogans.

The 'Protesters' who seem to have a remarkable access to bricks and breeze blocks, Riot shields that are clearly made, professionally printed placards etc.

But all the curious trail of coincidences aside - I think there is one overarching point: If they hate the USA so much, then why are they there? This is where the protests are doing the Lords Work when it comes to anti-Illegal Immigration sentiment - because even the regular people are asking that question.

Also - I am loving the 'leadership' that Gavin Newsom is providing. Very Presidential.:lol::lol::lol:

jim.cox

11th June 2025, 10:31

Seems to me the circumstances in California are exactly those anticipated by the second amendment

TheDemonLord

11th June 2025, 10:51

Seems to me the circumstances in California are exactly those anticipated by the second amendment

Exactly.

And the funniest thing is - a lot of Lefties have been going:

"Where is the 2nd Amendment advocates now, LOL!!!"

To which All the Republicans make the following points:

"Yes, if you genuinely believe the US Government is Tyrannical, go grab your Rifle and overthrow the Government"
and
"Good luck doing that in California"

Dean

11th June 2025, 12:12

I think people trying to get to work on rock covered freeways will care.

I think people with jobs whose taxes will pay for all the damage will care.

I think the critically ill elderly or cancer patients who couldn’t get to hospital due to protests will care.

Socialists want everything YOU have except your job and personal responsibility.

Nailed it.

Hundreds of millions of dollars of damage both physical and unseen (loss of productivity, opportunity etc) all absorbed by the rate payers (the middle class) whether direct or indirect. The claims will start rolling in.

sugilite

11th June 2025, 12:47

Nailed it.

Hundreds of millions of dollars of damage both physical and unseen (loss of productivity, opportunity etc) all absorbed by the rate payers (the middle class) whether direct or indirect. The claims will start rolling in.

Heyya Dean, nice to note your concern for the middle class.
With that in mind, what do you think of trumps "Big Beautiful Bill" adding trillions in national debt to largely pay for tax cuts for the rich?
And is adding national debt what republicans nauseatingly and insistently whined about all through the last 4 years?
From where I stand I can only see it being a big beautiful bill for the rich, and a big fucking ugly tax bill for the middle class to pay for years to come.
What say you?

Seems to me the circumstances in California are exactly those anticipated by the second amendment
I feel I have found the perfect instrument for 2nd amendment aficionados.

<iframe width="525" height="933" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/PBpyCdy4pMg" title="Gun piano makes music from peoples screams" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Yes it is impracticable and not really fit for purpose, much like the second amendment itself.

pritch

11th June 2025, 13:20

Thought for the day. If this is how people (protestors) who legitimately belong in America behave, you couldn’t have a better illustration of why it’s important to check who you let in the country.

My moneys on the other states making Californians apply for a visa to cross state lines next.

Your thought for the day is confused. No surprises there. From memory California is the world's fourth biggest economy. A large chunk of their taxes goes to support the inbred Trump voters in the raggedy arsed states. They would love the federal government to give them an excuse to leave the US. California could become a province of Canada?