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HenryDorsetCase

11th June 2025, 14:40

Love it, they could rename the new Country as Calanda :shifty:

the aftermath of the upcoming civil war might look like Canada aligned with the western states (currently Washington State, Oregon, California - that gives them all of the western seaboard and borders with Canadia and Mehico... if they draw the line at (say) the top of the Rockies then they have to work out what to do with ARizona, Nevada, Utah. Colorado spans the Rockies too. Lot of nukes in bunkers in the flat bits. It is a fairly defensible land border but of course that is the least of your worries really. When California secedes from the Union, that will be the trigger.

pritch

11th June 2025, 15:39

There has been from time to time talk of secession. Marjorie Taylor Greene was keen on the idea of the southern states seceding. An approiately idiotic idea for her, the southern states are only kept afloat by money from the big cities which are all Democrat. The southern states on their own would be broke in weeks.

Recently I was watching a series on YouTube. A guy drives across the USA filming what he sees and citing the relevant statistics and history. In Texas many towns deliberately create an entirely false impression. The Main Street is sealed. The side streets are sealed for precisely one block. The rest is dirt roads. If you drive straight through it looks great.

Trump recently threatened to withhold federal funding from California. He must be about about as bright as MTG. The Governor of California replied that California would withhold all federal taxes. Difficult to do these days since most of the tax take is automated but hopefully he has somebody working on how it could be done.

Since I posted that previous post YouTube has served me up a Los Angeles resident passionately suggesting secession. From little acorns giant oak trees grow.

TheDemonLord

11th June 2025, 16:49

I feel I have found the perfect instrument for 2nd amendment aficionados.

Yes it is impracticable and not really fit for purpose, much like the second amendment itself.

The problem is that the Gun Drummer has already beaten you to it - and is far more awesome, practical and fits the purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onBpdFxQz5M

jim.cox

11th June 2025, 18:35

neels

12th June 2025, 09:30

I wonder if Trump's general dislike of things higher education related is due to him not being very good at it.

entire-fulbright-board-quits-in-mass-revolt-over-trump-assault (https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/entire-fulbright-board-quits-in-mass-revolt-over-trump-assault/ar-AA1GwLVC?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=c31ec56144a14a34d624425c92f78f64&ei=18)

R650R

12th June 2025, 10:40

Odd!

I genuinely thought

It would be the Republicans defending the Constitution

Not destroying it

I dont see a single one of them standing up to Trump - Spineless Jellyfish the lot of them

Guess it just goes to show how naive I must be

What part of the constitution written by patriarchal colonialist oppressors are the republicans destroying????

pritch

12th June 2025, 10:46

Trump has been referring to paid protestors again. There is no evidence to suggest this has ever been true but Trump has occasionally paid people to attend events.

His latest effort is paying people to attend his DC military birthday bash. Some of the language is interesting. They want people for 'space maximisation and attendance perception' as well as 'maximum perception control'. And for this the attendees get $1,000 paid in Trump's crypto currency, a lunch of fast food and a soda.

The ad particularly requires people of colour and ethnic groups who as a bonus are likely to be arrested by ICE after the conclusion of the day's events?

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/tlg/d/washington-seat-fillers-needed-june/7857143452.html

jim.cox

12th June 2025, 11:09

What part of the constitution written by patriarchal colonialist oppressors

Ah. No,

Thanks for playing, but wrong answer

The American constitution came after the War of Independence, and was written by those that had thrown off the yoke of imperialism

Go to the bottom of the class

HenryDorsetCase

12th June 2025, 15:02

What part of the constitution written by patriarchal colonialist oppressors are the republicans destroying????

Read some history, son. It'll do you good.

Start here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States

There is a really good book I read years ago about the Constitutional congress. I cannot remember the title or author now. If I do I will send it on. Fun fact though: most of the delegates were atheists and it was really important to them that the machinery of government be free of the yoke of religion - bearing in mind they had just beaten the English who were ruled by a constitutional monarch who was apparently ordained by god to rule. Again - hazy memory but I am pretty sure Ben Franklin was a leading light.

Far cry from the christofascist theocracy now in charge, no?

husaberg

12th June 2025, 17:51

Ah. No,

Thanks for playing, but wrong answer

The American constitution came after the War of Independence, and was written by those that had thrown off the yoke of imperialism

Go to the bottom of the class

What is rather funny as the civil war started as the southern states wanted to leave the USA's oppression due of the to progressive and democratic rules with their too progressive and way too liberal hipster republican party...
This might be why trump thinks he's done more for the black people than any president maybe since Ab Lincoln.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbk4AQQDg9c

sugilite

12th June 2025, 19:11

The problem is that the Gun Drummer has already beaten you to it - and is far more awesome, practical and fits the purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onBpdFxQz5M

Actually, that was bloody brilliant!
2A still sux arse though :bleh:

sugilite

13th June 2025, 11:14

trump to sycophant advisor "Wait, so you mean to tell me if we remove immigrants indiscriminately, somehow food does not to get to our tables????"
Queue The Village peoples hit song remixed especially for trump - "Taco, Taco man, I wanna be a Taco man" .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnhgeUmHcO0&t=81s

He will need to distract from the above, sooooooo send the troops into New York to "Protect Government Property?

I strongly advise the American people who actually value democracy - they need to give this cockwomble (and the armed forces at the same) a valuable lesson. And the best way they can achieve that is to go in their hundreds of thousands to trumps birthday parade in Washington, D.C this Saturday US time - and sit on the road "peacefully" in front of the tanks ensuring his parade goes nowhere. I think he will notice.

pritch

13th June 2025, 11:36

I strongly advise the American people who actually value democracy - they need to give this cockwomble (and the armed forces at the same) a valuable lesson. And the best way they can achieve that is to go in their hundreds of thousands to trumps birthday parade in Washington, D.C this Saturday US time - and sit on the road "peacefully" in front of the tanks ensuring his parade goes nowhere. I think he will notice.

They aren't doing that but there are a series of "No kings" protests all over the country. Well, in blue states anyway.

I just hope it rains on Trump's parade. The forecast did mention rain but currently the forecast is for sun and temperatures close to 100f. Nice for any troops marching.

sugilite

13th June 2025, 12:07

They aren't doing that but there are a series of "No kings" protests all over the country.
What a wasted opportunity. Seriously, I'm beginning to wonder if the anti trump movement are as gormless as trump himself.
Maybe I should go and do a bit of promo work on some of the US News Websites comment sections.

sugilite

13th June 2025, 14:32

Would not have happened under Biden <_<

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360722787/israel-launches-pre-emptive-attack-iran

pritch

13th June 2025, 16:17

What a wasted opportunity. Seriously, I'm beginning to wonder if the anti trump movement are as gormless as trump himself.

The Democrats seem to be. Top Democrat in the Senate wrote a 'stern letter' to Trump. Sending any kind of letter to a guy famous for not reading seems gormless.

One piece of good news: a federal court has restored control of the California National Guard to the governor. Governor Newsom says that tomorrow the Guard will go back to what they were doing before Trump interfered.

Laava

13th June 2025, 17:18

I am still hopeful that someone shoots the cunt. I cant help thinking that this israeli attack in Iran smacks of his meddling bullshit!

Katman

13th June 2025, 17:32

Maybe I should go and do a bit of promo work on some of the US News Websites comment sections.

Well I'm sure you couldn't do any worse than you do here.

F5 Dave

13th June 2025, 18:04

I'd be a bit surprised if he is above literature that doesn't have speech bubbles.

pritch

13th June 2025, 18:18

I'd be a bit surprised if he is above literature that doesn't have speech bubbles.

It might actually be worse than that. He doesn't take the daily presidential briefings. Last time he was in The White House they put his name in every other pragraph in an effort to keep him reading at least once or twice a week. That's not working now. One of his cabinet members wants to present the briefing in the form of a FOX News broadcast. He definitely watches those.

F5 Dave

13th June 2025, 18:24

How long is this four years going to take?

husaberg

13th June 2025, 18:44

I am still hopeful that someone shoots the cunt. I cant help thinking that this israeli attack in Iran smacks of his meddling bullshit!

30th March“If they don’t make a deal, there will be bombing,” Trump said in a telephone interview. “It will be bombing the likes of which they have never seen before.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-threatens-there-will-be-bombing-if-iran-fails-to-make-peace-deal/

Russia is openly helping Iranian exchange for drones etc

sugilite

13th June 2025, 18:50

Well I'm sure you couldn't do any worse than you do here.

Hey! Wassup Sourpuss?

I reckon a good catch cry to get this party started would be.... "Big protest in D.C. on <s>January 6th</s> June 14th - Be there, will be wild!" Have a big orange buffoon say it for extra omphalompa.

Kickaha

13th June 2025, 22:06

His latest effort is paying people to attend his DC military birthday bash. Some of the language is interesting. They want people for 'space maximisation and attendance perception' as well as 'maximum perception control'. And for this the attendees get $1,000 paid in Trump's crypto currency, a lunch of fast food and a soda.

The ad particularly requires people of colour and ethnic groups who as a bonus are likely to be arrested by ICE after the conclusion of the day's events?

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/tlg/d/washington-seat-fillers-needed-june/7857143452.html

From everything I've seen that's been shown to be bullshit, yes the add was placed but no one seems to know by who as the company listed doesn't seem to exist

Katman

14th June 2025, 08:32

From everything I've seen that's been shown to be bullshit...

Since when has that ever bothered pritch?

pritch

14th June 2025, 09:42

From everything I've seen that's been shown to be bullshit, yes the add was placed but no one seems to know by who as the company listed doesn't seem to exist

Yes I've seen comments since. I didn't question it because although Trump often refers to "paid protestors" the only instances of people being paid to attend events that I know of has been by Trump himself. Every accusation a confession, as they say.

husaberg

14th June 2025, 11:00

Yes I've seen comments since. I didn't question it because although Trump often refers to "paid protestors" the only instances of people being paid to attend events that I know of has been by Trump himself. Every accusation a confession, as they say.
Narcissistic projection... like most trolls do .....
https://www.selfloverecovery.com/cdn/shop/articles/Picture1.jpg

Since when has that ever bothered pritch?
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0d/85/38/0d85382bf72b332b046e3feafcd7b46b.jpg

pritch

15th June 2025, 10:53

Watching Trump's birthday bash. I knew the Yanks weren't great at marching but it's actually bad. They are just out for a walk. Guards regiments or French Foreign Legion they ain't.

husaberg

15th June 2025, 12:50

Watching Trump's birthday bash. I knew the Yanks weren't great at marching but it's actually bad. They are just out for a walk. Guards regiments or French Foreign Legion they ain't.

It seems Trump missed the bit where if you want to show you are powerful.
A gaudy show of force is not power. Just as a gaudy show of gold and flashy crap like gold taps and watches is not a sign of true wealth.
Superficial displays tend to come from very insecure personalities.
True power is shown through the use of restraint when faced with provocation and measured carefully considered response to aggressive acts.
True wealth is shown by understated class and willingness to help the less fortunate.
Maybe he's solely playing to the less sophisticated of all audiences. (Trump voters):eek:

Katman

15th June 2025, 14:06

True power is shown through the use of restraint when faced with provocation and measured carefully considered response to aggressive acts.

Fucking priceless!! :killingme

Kiwibiker's retarded version of Sun Tzu.

pritch

15th June 2025, 14:06

Well I sat right through Trump's parade waiting for the good part. It never came. First up were historic vehicles similar to any historic military vehicle gathering in this country. Then they moved on to Sherman tanks from WW2. Various Army units marched (shuffled) - in their fatigues. They didn't even get dressed for it.
Some of the crews of the armoured vehicles smiled and waved to the modest crowd. The crowd was not large, perhaps Trump should have paid out some crypto to seat fillers.
Putin will have had a good laugh.

Most appropriate comment I have seen so far? "Whoever organised this parade has never seen a parade."

Judging by their bored expressions we can assume that the wives of the dignitaries will do their best to ensure there is no more of this silliness.

Pursang

15th June 2025, 21:44

I've seen many, many, better ANZAC Day parades.

$US 65 (or more) million and they couldn't even grease the tracks links on the WW11 tanks.

What a Pathetic National Embarrassment!......and his birthday parade was pretty lame too!

sugilite

16th June 2025, 08:51

I did wonder if you guys might have just seen the left leaning medias take on the parade with carefully edited shots and pans. So I went over to fox to check out the other sides footage expecting to see something different. But OMG, Foxs footage also showed the same completely boring and uncompelling footage. The soldiers mostly looked like they did not want to be there and were just going through the motions. There were the usual maga desperadoes in the comments raving about it, but there was just no hiding the super low energy. I did not bother watching any of the no kings protest footage for comparison.
Speaking of people wanting to be treated like a king......

<iframe width="525" height="933" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NqPqdi3orzQ" title="TRUMP CAUGHT ON CAMERA: says he wants "his people" to obey him like in North Korea" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

pritch

16th June 2025, 09:29

Speaking of people wanting to be treated like a king......

This has been a pattern. First go round he referred to "my generals". He also referred to 'my lawyers' and was taken aback when eventually told that the White House Counsel did not work for him but for the institution of the presidency, for the people, not the president. He had been discussing matters with the White House Counsel that he should not have.

Recently he has referred to "my army". That might seem quaint but it's actually dangerous.

As for the marching in his parade. US Army marching is always lame but one unit was particularly bad. The suggestion has been made that it was a form of protest.

The standard of drill reached by Guards regiments is extreme. This clip shows Legionaires in working kit similar to the troops in Trump's parade but the effect is just so much better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4E28S64pCw

Afterthought: Just saw a comment on social media re Trump's parade - which has been mercilessly mocked in Russia and Korea apparently. A black former soldier commented that there are many black soldiers in the US Army but there was not a single black soldier in Trump's parade. Apparently the parade was strictly whites only. I didn't notice it at the time but now that it's mentioned.

neels

16th June 2025, 10:40

More TACO, and it's not even Tuesday.

trump-curbs-immigration-enforcement-farms-meatpacking-plants-hotels-and-restaurants (https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360724679/trump-curbs-immigration-enforcement-farms-meatpacking-plants-hotels-and-restaurants)

Katman

16th June 2025, 12:25

Afterthought: Just saw a comment on social media re Trump's parade - which has been mercilessly mocked in Russia and Korea apparently. A black former soldier commented that there are many black soldiers in the US Army but there was not a single black soldier in Trump's parade. Apparently the parade was strictly whites only. I didn't notice it at the time but now that it's mentioned.

The first video I checked out had a number of black soldiers marching.

Why do you constantly latch on to such idiotic ideas? (Especially ones that are so easy to disprove).

F5 Dave

16th June 2025, 12:51

Boom chucka chucka boom chuck chucka.
RAZZLE DAZZLE. (Name the movie for Internet choccy fish and bragging rights).

husaberg

16th June 2025, 13:09

There goes that narcissistic projection again twice in a single page...

sugilite

16th June 2025, 13:39

Speaking of easy to prove stances.
Check out this expanded country list that trump wants to block these counties citizens from visiting the states.
Sooooooooo many countries teeming with white Christians in that list - aren't there? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Benin, Bhutan, Burkina Faso, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Dominica, Ethiopia, Egypt, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Kyrgyzstan, Liberia, Malawi, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Sao Tome and Principe, Senegal, South Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Tonga, Tuvalu, Uganda, Vanuatu, Zambia, and Zimbabwe

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-mulls-adding-36-more-075657725.html?guccounter=1

FLUB

16th June 2025, 14:12

Boom chucka chucka boom chuck chucka.
RAZZLE DAZZLE. (Name the movie for Internet choccy fish and bragging rights).Stripes

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F5 Dave

16th June 2025, 14:51

Stripes

Sent from my Pixel 8 using Tapatalk

Fishy award.:sunny:

Talking of ridiculous parades. . .

pritch

16th June 2025, 14:59

The first video I checked out had a number of black soldiers marching.

Why do you constantly latch on to such idiotic ideas? (Especially ones that are so easy to disprove).

You referring to idiotic ideas with your history is ironic. It was a black guy wrote that so I assumed he knew that of which he spoke. My recollection was that the parade seemed white but no, there are black soldiers in the happy throng.

R650R

16th June 2025, 15:48

Taking out the trash , first clip is bit average but there’s some doozies in there that are worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5tzk5zCOeA

R650R

16th June 2025, 15:58

Fucking priceless!! :killingme

Kiwibiker's retarded version of Sun Tzu.

Must spread rep…. That is gross insult to Tzun Su though

TheDemonLord

16th June 2025, 16:29

It was a black guy wrote that so I assumed he knew that of which he spoke.

Because Race Grifters have never lied about Racism in order to justify their continued Grifting.

Jussie Smollet (for example)

sugilite

16th June 2025, 16:47

Interesting, giving a cursory look into this notion of the white soldiers narrative. A right leaning media outlet (originally set up by Nixon) was promoting the parade. Check out their promo example photo of US troops below.

https://nationalinterest.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Military-Parade-6_12_25-ss.jpg

Source = https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/the-us-army-will-descend-on-washington-dc-on-saturday

It sure looks like some ethnic and gender based cleansing was performed due to the cross reference of soldiers that did show up on the day :no: (photo below)

https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_new_republic_521/81e1f44768faee6d99e4f29ecb13be54

Pretty sad when the parade participants out number the spectators.

F5 Dave

16th June 2025, 16:51

Sheesh! Not an ICBM in sight! The Ruskis and N.Koreans showed them up considerably. :lol:

Katman

16th June 2025, 17:56

Recently he has referred to "my army". That might seem quaint but it's actually dangerous.

Is the president not the Commander in Chief?

sugilite

16th June 2025, 18:18

I think I found trumps next cabinet pick, surely he is a shoe-in with those credentials?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czpVCB_Q_qM

R650R

16th June 2025, 22:16

R650R

16th June 2025, 22:20

Sheesh! Not an ICBM in sight! The Ruskis and N.Koreans showed them up considerably. :lol:

Mobile ICBMs are really just a Chinese and Russia thing, yanks have never really been into them.

pete376403

16th June 2025, 23:07

Mobile ICBMs are really just a Chinese and Russia thing, yanks have never really been into them.

There was the "Peacekeeper Rail Garrison" was a rail mounted system, so, mobile, even if not truck-mounted as the Russian /Chinese/Nth Korean versions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacekeeper_Rail_Garrison

Laava

17th June 2025, 00:22

There was the "Peacekeeper Rail Garrison" was a rail mounted system, so, mobile, even if not truck-mounted as the Russian /Chinese/Nth Korean versions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacekeeper_Rail_Garrison
Any chance they can point it at Mar a lardo?

pritch

17th June 2025, 09:35

Because Race Grifters have never lied about Racism in order to justify their continued Grifting.

This was against a background of Pete Kegbreath firing black officers and female officers to enhance "lethality." Selecting military presidential audiences according to political views and weight. Renaming naval ships named after people he dislikes. With all that going on a racially selected parade was not at all unlikely.

On the basis that it's an ill wind that blows no good, that parade was so bad there is unlikely to be another Trump parade. Until he shuffles off this mortal coil.

Katman

17th June 2025, 09:39

With all that going on a racially selected parade was not at all unlikely.

In a previous post you stated that you watched the entire parade, and yet you still swallowed the 'strictly whites only' bullshit.

That's a new level of fucking stupid - even for you.

TheDemonLord

17th June 2025, 10:26

This was against a background of Pete Kegbreath firing black officers and female officers to enhance "lethality." Selecting military presidential audiences according to political views and weight. Renaming naval ships named after people he dislikes. With all that going on a racially selected parade was not at all unlikely.

So, he removes people who promote a worldview that is the polar opposite of what the USA stands for (collectivists vs individualists) and doesn't use names that the US Liberals like?

Oh No!

And yes, spending time worrying about Diversity is time that could be spent on training or better equipment. Afterall, they are already all Green.

Now we come to the last part: Was the Parade racially selected or was the source you listened to lying to you?

(given we have the photographic evidence, this should be an easy answer)

HenryDorsetCase

17th June 2025, 14:59

In a previous post you stated that you watched the entire parade, and yet you still swallowed the 'strictly whites only' bullshit.

That's a new level of fucking stupid - even for you.

You, Sir, are a nasty piece of work. Fuck off again will you?

Katman

17th June 2025, 15:17

You, Sir, are a nasty piece of work.

I've been called a lot worse.

sugilite

17th June 2025, 18:26

Zooming in on the second pic of Sugi post there is quite a few dark skinned and slightly darker skin tones, the two formations behind the caps are obscuring most of faces.
Given the advent of mixed families these days it can be hard to judge someone’s race purely on appearance so jury’s not out on this one.

Yep, I could see some were black and mixed race, hence the term "Some". But nonetheless, I do find it a startling difference between the two photos. I reckon the ratio of black/mixed/white is about the same as trumps cabinet picks below.

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iHA6mnTfMNQo/v0/-1x-1.webp

And this has all come from left scratching for dirt to throw as they are the only ones into identity politics, right wing leaning people care about meritocracyand would just assume that however was selected for the parade were the best available troops at time.
Is this some sort of reference to DEI? I wanna puke every time right wingers raise the DEI thing, when again, looking at trumps cabinet, barely any of them could even begin to claim they are the "best" in their position. I can show you videos of nearly all of them not being able to answer the most basic of questions pertaining to their positions - and "I mean really, really bad videos of them. This DEI rhetoric from the right is pure bullshit, they just want their mates and rich people to be in positions of power - ala trumps cabinet.

In any case does anyone seriously think that even Trump would risk a career ending own goal by putting out a directive of what race soldiers will be in the parade. Just one disgruntled whistleblower would trigger race riots and downfall of his presidency.
It would not be a public directive, more a nudge and a wink to the right people. AND my perception pretty much since 2016 is that there simply no career ending move trump could make, his base will just prop him up no matter what. In my opinion trump is craving for disorder and riots as it gives him more opportunities to put in troops and wave that magic distraction wand to get people from noticing his MANY, MANY failures.

husaberg

17th June 2025, 19:19

pritch

17th June 2025, 19:26

In any case does anyone seriously think that even Trump would risk a career ending own goal by putting out a directive of what race soldiers will be in the parade. Just one disgruntled whistleblower would trigger race riots and downfall of his presidency.

That could only make sense if you were blissfully unaware that he had just visited troops and the troops on view were selected by their political views and their weight. There were to be no fat soldiers visible.

TheDemonLord

17th June 2025, 19:35

That could only make sense if you were blissfully unaware that he had just visited troops and the troops on view were selected by their political views and their weight. There were to be no fat soldiers visible.

Now, I don't know about their Political Views - but in regards to their weight:

USMC has the Body Composition Standard (https://www.fitness.marines.mil/BCP_Standards/)

The Army has AR600-9 (https://www.army.mil/e2/downloads/rv7/r2/policydocs/r600_9.pdf)

I CBF checking Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard and Space Force - but I feel reasonably certain that they will have similar regulations.

If there is a Parade and a service member was not adhering to the regulations on Uniform or Appearance - would they still be allowed to partake in the Parade?

That is a far simpler and reasonable explanation than a very stretched attempt to have a dig at Trump.

pritch

17th June 2025, 19:57

Now, I don't know about their Political Views - but in regards to their weight:

USMC has the Body Composition Standard (https://www.fitness.marines.mil/BCP_Standards/)

The Army has AR600-9 (https://www.army.mil/e2/downloads/rv7/r2/policydocs/r600_9.pdf)

I CBF checking Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard and Space Force - but I feel reasonably certain that they will have similar regulations.

If there is a Parade and a service member was not adhering to the regulations on Uniform or Appearance - would they still be allowed to partake in the Parade?

That is a far simpler and reasonable explanation than a very stretched attempt to have a dig at Trump.

That's all completely irrelevant. Trump is all about appearances and nothing about the clip in question suggests the information is incorrect.

Katman

17th June 2025, 20:23

That's all completely irrelevant. Trump is all about appearances and nothing about the clip in question suggests the information is incorrect.

When you're in a hole, stop digging.

TheDemonLord

17th June 2025, 20:42

That's all completely irrelevant. Trump is all about appearances and nothing about the clip in question suggests the information is incorrect.

Do you know what other organization has a long and storied history about having Uniform Appearance, Standards, Physical Fitness etc?

In all seriousness - For the sake of a Hypothetical, Remove all traces of Trump from the equation.

A Military is doing a Parade.

Do they:

A) Pick the best people who conform to the standards who give off an Aura of Physical prowess, Battle readiness, Discipline etc. or
B) A bunch of scruffy and overweight Soldiers

Trying to argue that any Military would pick anything other than Option A is wild. Hell - There is videos from the likes of Senegal - where the Soldiers can barely march in step - yet all the people they picked still have the Aesthetic we would commonly associate with a Soldier.

Laava

18th June 2025, 06:56

Trump has wildly flipflopped from "sometimes you have to let countries fight" to "ayatollah must surrender unconditionally"

A very stable genius.

pritch

18th June 2025, 09:11

Do you know what other organization has a long and storied history about having Uniform Appearance, Standards, Physical Fitness etc?

In all seriousness - For the sake of a Hypothetical, Remove all traces of Trump from the equation.

A Military is doing a Parade.

Do they:

A) Pick the best people who conform to the standards who give off an Aura of Physical prowess, Battle readiness, Discipline etc. or
B) A bunch of scruffy and overweight Soldiers

Trying to argue that any Military would pick anything other than Option A is wild. Hell - There is videos from the likes of Senegal - where the Soldiers can barely march in step - yet all the people they picked still have the Aesthetic we would commonly associate with a Soldier.

You don't have to go to Senegal to find soldiers that can barely march in step. Marching in step was clearly beyond some of the soldiers in Trump's parade. Either that or it was a form of protest?
In fairness to the troops they had no music. A big parade in the west would normally have bands at intervals. In North Korea it seems to blast out over the PA system.

This morning YouTube thought I needed to see this. It covers Trump's visit to Fort Bragg which was the event I was referring to when I mentioned political views and weight because that had been reported. Trump has long controlled who sits behind him at rallies, or who sits in the front rows if they will appear on camera..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5uazGAS0Yg&t=1s

This also appeared on my screen. Not entirely relevant but... Drill such as that performed by Guards regiments requires an inordinate amount of time. Time that some would consider could be better spent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VXPoczMFTI

TheDemonLord

18th June 2025, 10:26

You don't have to go to Senegal to find soldiers that can barely march in step. Marching in step was clearly beyond some of the soldiers in Trump's parade. Either that or it was a form of protest?
In fairness to the troops they had no music. A big parade in the west would normally have bands at intervals. In North Korea it seems to blast out over the PA system.

This morning YouTube thought I needed to see this. It covers Trump's visit to Fort Bragg which was the event I was referring to when I mentioned political views and weight because that had been reported. Trump has long controlled who sits behind him at rallies, or who sits in the front rows if they will appear on camera..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5uazGAS0Yg&t=1s

This also appeared on my screen. Not entirely relevant but... Drill such as that performed by Guards regiments requires an inordinate amount of time. Time that some would consider could be better spent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VXPoczMFTI

The American video came off as just more Trump Bashing - however, I did enjoy the British one (shock!) - but it does raise a very good point. Even as a Trump fan - the snippets of the Parade (I haven't watched the whole thing) was a shambles. The closing line 'If you are going to do it, do it well'

Although one does wonder - perhaps it was intentional. If they marched properly - everyone would be making the comparison to NK or Russia - so Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.

Finally...

God I miss Field Gun.

pritch

18th June 2025, 11:55

The American video came off as just more Trump Bashing -

It did, however, disprove your arguments entirely. The troops were selected by weight and their political views. Additionally they were not permitted to drink water. They were to be fully hydrated, which probably meant they were all bursting for a piss by the time it was over.

The American army never looks good marching, it's like they are into energy conservation, minimal movement of arms and legs. Trump's parade though was particularly bad at times. The person who said that whoever organised this parade had never seen one had a point.

sugilite

18th June 2025, 11:57

Trump has wildly flipflopped from "sometimes you have to let countries fight" to "ayatollah must surrender unconditionally"

A very stable genius.

My God man, that was so 5 hours ago.
Now trump is planning to enter the war :oi-grr:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360722787/israel-iran-conflict

sugilite

18th June 2025, 12:10

Yikes, does tulsi not know, if she lets trumps dick fall from her mouth for even a second, it is goneburgers for her.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-blows-off-gabbard-downplaying-iran-nuke-threat-wh-still-says-president-intel-chief-sync

TheDemonLord

18th June 2025, 13:27

It did, however, disprove your arguments entirely. The troops were selected by weight and their political views. Additionally they were not permitted to drink water. They were to be fully hydrated, which probably meant they were all bursting for a piss by the time it was over.

Now - on the first point selected by Weight - absolutely, the Memo says "Are to be fit and not look fat" - again, I say that this is easily in line general Military Aesthetic.

Not drinking during official duties? Again, this is not uncommon - It was national news a few years ago when the then Queens Guard needed water whilst on-duty because of the British Heat wave.

But on selected based on Political position? Hold up... Let's just review exactly what was shown on the news article shall we?

If any soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the current administration and they don't want to be in the audience then they need to speak to their leadership to get swapped out. Basically they don't want soldiers in the audience rolling their eyes or shaking their heads in disagreement

That's quite a world away from what you lead us to believe. They were not 'selected' as in "Oh you are a Democrat, you can't sit behind Trump" it is: "If you don't want to be there or you are going to break Military Bearing - let us know and you don't have to go"

And I use the phrase 'Military Bearing' because there is a very long history of Soldiers not cracking a smile, laughing, looking away, being distracted etc. whilst in an official capacity.

So no - they were not selected on Political Views, they were asked if they can't maintain bearing, not to go. BIG difference.

The American army never looks good marching, it's like they are into energy conservation, minimal movement of arms and legs. Trump's parade though was particularly bad at times. The person who said that whoever organised this parade had never seen one had a point.

I dunno - the USMC silent drill teams are pretty damn impressive, Sentinels of the Tomb of the unknown warrior are fantastic.

pritch

18th June 2025, 14:02

Now trump is planning to enter the war

Trump has no authority to enter a war. That authority is held by Congress alone. Then again Trump did not have the authority to send the National Guard or the Marines into Los Angeles. He did not have the authority to create a Department Of Government Efficiency either. He doesn't much care for laws, especially if they constrain him.

Laava

18th June 2025, 17:26

At one point he was just amusing in a "holy fuck, they elected(ended up with) a fucking retard in the top job" kinda way.
But now he is running amok big time and making some catastrophic mistakes.

Katman

18th June 2025, 18:03

At one point he was just amusing in a "holy fuck, they elected(ended up with) a fucking retard in the top job" kinda way.
But now he is running amok big time and making some catastrophic mistakes.

And yet you fail to recognise the irony of the fact that Americans were presented with a choice between two halves of the same shit sandwich.

husaberg

18th June 2025, 18:11

Trump has no authority to enter a war. That authority is held by Congress alone. Then again Trump did not have the authority to send the National Guard or the Marines into Los Angeles. He did not have the authority to create a Department Of Government Efficiency either. He doesn't much care for laws, especially if they constrain him.
Classic Trump.
Goes on and blames Trudeau for his friend Putins Russia being removed from G8 and and causing the war.
Never mind the fact Trudeau was not elected until a year after Russia were thrown out of the G8 .
He also seems to miss out they were thrown out for invading the Ukraine in the first place (the original annexation of Crimea)
Not to mention G7 are democratic countries, Only a fool would believe Russia is really democratic.
What an absolute pillock. He fanbois will never call him on this bullshit.....
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Then he confuses a trade deal he supposed to have signed with the UK calling it the EU
Not to mention the blank pages
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Then for the triple "blurred score" he confuses his own country and Israel.

US President Donald Trump demands Iran’s “unconditional surrender”, saying, “We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran.”

I am picking that is Israel never gave the yanks much of a heads up, as they yanks are now franticlly rushing a carrier to the med and another carrier to the Indian ocean from Japan
All the rest apparently are in home ports?

Bonus check out the Italian PM eye roll as trump starts to speak
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