Stupid World

[Akzle]

Its only illegal where they have massive water problems - streams drying up, streams which feed the town local water supply.......

totally a good place to build a fucking city with shitloads of dickheads in it

[Ocean1]

totally a good place to build a fucking city with shitloads of dickheads in it

In some cases the maximum feasible long term population density is fuck all.

Like Montana. Even low density cattle ranches and fairly widely scattered towns weren't viable after the high country forests were milled and the mining fukd the water table. And then you get a sort of industrial scale in-fill lifestyle block development...

Jared Diamond's book "Collapse" covered it well.

Compared to almost all continental environments NZ has no resource issues whatsoever.

[Akzle]

Compared to almost all continental environments NZ has no resource issues whatsoever.

shhhhhhh. The jews in parliament will sell that shit if word gets out.

[blue rider]

just for a change,

this is cool

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/29/worlds-largest-solar-boat-searches-for-prehistoric-village-in-the-argolic-gulf/

[mashman]

The sanction games take a new twist.

EU and US impose new round of sanctions on Russia over Ukraine (http://rt.com/usa/176516-bank-moscow-financial-sanctions/).

Duma mulls new bill to define and punish ‘aggressor nations’ (http://rt.com/politics/176348-russia-sanctions-aggressor-nations/).

Fuckin children.

[oldrider]

The sanction games take a new twist.

EU and US impose new round of sanctions on Russia over Ukraine (http://rt.com/usa/176516-bank-moscow-financial-sanctions/).

Duma mulls new bill to define and punish ‘aggressor nations’ (http://rt.com/politics/176348-russia-sanctions-aggressor-nations/).

Fuckin children.

What a toothless Zionist puppet Obama is proving himself to be! (USA is little more than Israel's big bully lap dog anyway)

Tough sanctions against Russian aggression in Ukrain?

Meanwhile he casts a blind eye over the genocidal atrocities going on in Gaza! FFS! ... Does he think the world is blind and ignorant! ... Israel is a real aggressor nation!

Grow some balls Obama and ............... SANCTION ISRAEL!

[Brian d marge]

VIZIO M701d-A3R 70-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D Smart LED HDTV (http://amazon.com/dp/B00CHKPYM0/?tag=flatscreenexp-20)


u will be mine ......


Oh and what point do I get to say ,,,i told ya so .....


:laugh:

Stephen

[oldrider]

VIZIO M701d-A3R 70-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D Smart LED HDTV (http://amazon.com/dp/B00CHKPYM0/?tag=flatscreenexp-20)


u will be mine ......


Oh and what point do I get to say ,,,i told ya so .....


:laugh:

Stephen

Choice! and Choice again!

[SPman]

totally a good place to build a fucking city with shitloads of dickheads in itThey have - Las Vegas!

[SPman]

Quite frankly - fuck Ukraine and Gaza

Ebola has reached Lagos (pop 21m).

Next stop Paris, then.............

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/25043-hospital-quarantined-as-ebola-spreads-to-nigerias-largest-city

[Ocean1]

Quite frankly - fuck Ukraine and Gaza

Ebola has reached Lagos (pop 21m).

Next stop Paris, then.............

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/25043-hospital-quarantined-as-ebola-spreads-to-nigerias-largest-city

Yeah that's scary shit, it's airborne, and the game's just changed.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ebola-doctors-told-prepare-global-3933249

[blue rider]

so much fun everywhere


http://phys.org/news/2014-07-alaska-fisheries-ocean-acidification.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/08/us-usa-salmon-alaska-idUSKBN0DO01120140508

nothing happening here
nothing at all

[oldrider]

Quite frankly - fuck Ukraine and Gaza

Ebola has reached Lagos (pop 21m).

Next stop Paris, then.............

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/25043-hospital-quarantined-as-ebola-spreads-to-nigerias-largest-city

:eek: Anyone know the Rife frequency for Ebola? :blip: :shifty:

[Akzle]

Grow some balls Obama and ............... SANCTION ISRAEL!

no... because then israel may just "sanction" the US money supply...

[Brian d marge]

Yeah that's scary shit, it's airborne, and the game's just changed.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ebola-doctors-told-prepare-global-3933249
Now wasnt there a movie about this

And disnt christine say shyt would hit the fan from july 20th

Ebola scary shyt . . , .

Stephen

[mashman]

US House votes to sue Obama (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/24594241/us-house-votes-to-sue-obama/)... bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa. Sue'd for doing the same things that one's predecessors have done. Gud bliss murca.

[Banditbandit]

And disnt christine say shyt would hit the fan from july 20th



Couldn't be ... 2+0 = 2 not 7 ...

[blue rider]

can't make shit up


As reported by Tyler Durden of Zero Hedge, the Russian response to the extra-legal ruling of a corrupt court in the Netherlands, which had no jurisdiction over the case on which it ruled, awarding $50 billion dollars from the Russian government to shareholders of Yukos, a corrupt entity that was looting Russia and evading taxes, is telling. Asked what Russia would do about the ruling, an advisor to President Putin replied, “There is a war coming in Europe.” Do you really think this ruling matters?”

Fun
so much
Fun

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/28/war-coming-paul-craig-roberts/

yes, in the year 2014 the war came to Europe. Aren't we grand?

[blue rider]

even miracles die in gaza

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2014/07/gaza-miracle-baby-dies-after-six-days-201473113345982958.html

http://www.preventgenocide.org/genocide/officialtext.htm


It is a crime to plan or incite genocide, even before killing starts, and to aid or abet genocide: Criminal acts include conspiracy, direct and public incitement, attempts to commit genocide, and complicity in genocide.
Punishable Acts The following are genocidal acts when committed as part of a policy to destroy a group’s existence:

Killing members of the group includes direct killing and actions causing death.

Causing serious bodily or mental harm includes inflicting trauma on members of the group through widespread torture, rape, sexual violence, forced or coerced use of drugs, and mutilation.

Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy a group includes the deliberate deprivation of resources needed for the group’s physical survival, such as clean water, food, clothing, shelter or medical services. Deprivation of the means to sustain life can be imposed through confiscation of harvests, blockade of foodstuffs, detention in camps, forcible relocation or expulsion into deserts.

Prevention of births includes involuntary sterilization, forced abortion, prohibition of marriage, and long-term separation of men and women intended to prevent procreation.

Forcible transfer of children may be imposed by direct force or by fear of violence, duress, detention, psychological oppression or other methods of coercion. The Convention on the Rights of the Child defines children as persons under the age of 18 years.

Genocidal acts need not kill or cause the death of members of a group. Causing serious bodily or mental harm, prevention of births and transfer of children are acts of genocide when committed as part of a policy to destroy a group’s existence.

The law protects four groups - national, ethnical, racial or religious groups.

A national group means a set of individuals whose identity is defined by a common country of nationality or national origin.

An ethnical group is a set of individuals whose identity is defined by common cultural traditions, language or heritage.

A racial group means a set of individuals whose identity is defined by physical characteristics.

A religious group is a set of individuals whose identity is defined by common religious creeds, beliefs, doctrines, practices, or rituals.

Key Terms

The crime of genocide has two elements: intent and action. “Intentional” means purposeful. Intent can be proven directly from statements or orders. But more often, it must be inferred from a systematic pattern of coordinated acts.

Intent is different from motive. Whatever may be the motive for the crime (land expropriation, national security, territorrial integrity, etc.), if the perpetrators commit acts intended to destroy a group, even part of a group, it is genocide.

The phrase "in whole or in part" is important.
Perpetrators need not intend to destroy the entire group. Destruction of only part of a group (such as its educated members, or members living in one region) is also genocide. Most authorities require intent to destroy a substantial number of group members – mass murder. But an individual criminal may be guilty of genocide even if he kills only one person, so long as he knew he was participating in a larger plan to destroy the group.

[Brian d marge]

Couldn't be ... 2+0 = 0 not 7 ...
Its numerology

666 the number of the wife

And all that

[scrivy]

Couldn't be ... 2+0 = 0 not 7 ...

Ah yes, but today is 1/8/14..... or as the US say it 8/1/14.

So, 8-1+14=21, divided by 3 =7!!

Oh shit!!! Today is the fucken day!!!! Who wants to buy my business?? Who wants my business for free??? Who wants group sex, and all the free beer you can drink????

HELP...... the end of the world is nigh!!!!

:rolleyes::killingme

[oldrider]

Its numerology

666 the number of the wife

And all that

666 thats a digital sum of zero ... time to reshuffle the pack! :scratch:

[Akzle]

Oh shit!!! Today is the fucken day!!!! Who wants to buy my business?? Who wants my business for free??? Who wants group sex, and all the free beer you can drink????

HELP...... the end of the world is nigh!!!!

so.... ahh, party at yours tonight huh?

[yokel]

so much fun everywhere


http://phys.org/news/2014-07-alaska-fisheries-ocean-acidification.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/08/us-usa-salmon-alaska-idUSKBN0DO01120140508

nothing happening here
nothing at all

fukushima sushi anyone haha.
we are fucked really really fucked.

while everyone is preoccupied with MH370, MH17, Ukraine, Gazza and ebola the actual problem just keeps festering away under the radar.

stupid TV watchers.

[blue rider]

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/01/israels-exterminatory-impulse-toward-gaza/

and just because the world sucks

have some squeee

http://www.zooborns.com/zooborns/2014/07/five-baby-capybaras-born-at-zoo-berlin.html

[mashman]

fukushima sushi anyone haha.
we are fucked really really fucked.

while everyone is preoccupied with MH370, MH17, Ukraine, Gazza and ebola the actual problem just keeps festering away under the radar.

stupid TV watchers.

Preoccupied? As you say it's all happening at once and we can't, supposedly, do anything about it. It's almost as though every single situation is coordinated to keep another truth down, like running out of oil or some such other irrelevant concern.

On the upside two "primitive" tribes recently met and swapped bananas. From different cultures but poignant that one tribe has been displaced by man and his never ending search for wood and the other tribe has greeted them without slitting their throats or putting voodoo spells on them. Dipshit translation: Amazonian tribe band together to drive the world back into the 12th century.

[avgas]

fukushima sushi anyone haha.
we are fucked really really fucked.

while everyone is preoccupied with MH370, MH17, Ukraine, Gazza and ebola the actual problem just keeps festering away under the radar.

stupid TV watchers.
pffft Fukushima

Never mind the land that is dying due to PH levels elevated with phosphate. The (food) animals that are growing tumors for no known reasons. The reason why bee populations have decreased by 90% in the last 50 years. The birds mass dying. The unexplained sounds that are happening. The global financial system which has a collective sum of -45% value.......and 1000's of other issues which no one cares about.

Glow in the dark fish is the least of out problems. We are fucked in every circumstance in 50 generations. Even if we stop what we are doing right now and be good for now on. There is no backup plan without finding another planet with life.
50 generations and we are done - regardless of what we do.

The age of man will be done in 1 million years. Earth will no longer sustain our life. And that is the positive estimate........the actual estimate is far worse (50 generations or 5,000 years)

[Akzle]

The age of man will be done in 1 million years. Earth will no longer sustain our life. And that is the positive estimate........the actual estimate is far worse (50 generations or 5,000 years)

i generally agree but must point out, the age of *white* man.
Theres a flock of abos in the outback just kickin it till this cracker ass honky fad passes. 50 generations what? Your intelligent postdecessors will be reading about your white societal stupidity on cave walls.

[avgas]

i generally agree but must point out, the age of *white* man.
Theres a flock of abos in the outback just kickin it till this cracker ass honky fad passes. 50 generations what? Your intelligent postdecessors will be reading about your white societal stupidity on cave walls.
I think you will find most "culture" has become "society" sadly. So even your precious abo's buy food (/drink) and don't live in the dream time anymore.
I did hear of an Amazonian tribe which was still traditional even though the birds got bigger and become "made of metal". But now we are on this roller coaster of doom (white man or otherwise) we are doing so as a melting pot of stupid people.

Also there wont be cave walls. This whole place will be cut open in that time. Even after the black man has claimed it back to sell the resources.

So racial discrepancies don't really mean a damn anymore.
We are all white men, or wannabe white men now. Even the women are working and taken the white men's jobs. I fail to see a trend in any other direction.
Even "earthship"s are made with tyres........so the greenies gonna complain when we make hover cars.

[Scuba_Steve]

Never mind the land that is dying due to PH levels elevated with phosphate. The (food) animals that are growing tumors for no known reasons. The reason why bee populations have decreased by 90% in the last 50 years. The birds mass dying.

Well that lot all sounds like Monsanto so...

[unstuck]

i generally agree but must point out, the age of *white* man.
Theres a flock of abos in the outback just kickin it till this cracker ass honky fad passes. 50 generations what? Your intelligent postdecessors will be reading about your white societal stupidity on cave walls.

Have you read "Mutant Message down under", By Marlo Morgan? If not have a squizz, it talks in great detail about your "flock of abos" chilling and watching.:2thumbsup

[Ocean1]

pffft Fukushima

Never mind the land that is dying due to PH levels elevated with phosphate. The (food) animals that are growing tumors for no known reasons. The reason why bee populations have decreased by 90% in the last 50 years. The birds mass dying. The unexplained sounds that are happening. The global financial system which has a collective sum of -45% value.......and 1000's of other issues which no one cares about.

Glow in the dark fish is the least of out problems. We are fucked in every circumstance in 50 generations. Even if we stop what we are doing right now and be good for now on. There is no backup plan without finding another planet with life.
50 generations and we are done - regardless of what we do.

The age of man will be done in 1 million years. Earth will no longer sustain our life. And that is the positive estimate........the actual estimate is far worse (50 generations or 5,000 years)



Oh fuck off. It might be terribly fashionable to blame everyone for everything but it's tiresome bullshit, and it doesn't get any more true for the mindless repetition.

Have some perspective: http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/reader's-digest.aspx

[Brian d marge]

FFS

Seriously America .... FK off

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/10341050/US-to-train-and-arm-Ukraine-army


Stephen

[avgas]

Oh fuck off. It might be terribly fashionable to blame everyone for everything but it's tiresome bullshit, and it doesn't get any more true for the mindless repetition.

Have some perspective: http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/reader's-digest.aspx
Nah not fashionable - sadly its the fact that we know more (and understand less, as it commonly found with knowing more).
As for the perspective. I'm positive enough living in the now. Life is good and will continue to be good. My only concern is the future generations..........and how badly I have fucked them by enjoying now so much.

As for that link. I call bullshit on a few of those. It doesn't change my perspective, as I mentioned I am positive for what I have right now. But its very easy to say life is better because we don't need kerosene lamps.......... but we also spend about 30% less time with out kids due to having increased ability to work. So swings and roundabouts.
When I see people needing to sign up for 40 year mortgages to buy a house......I wonder if the grass really is greener, or the people who say that had life changes up while others went down.

Musical chairs if you will. I certainly know my sins for being able to have a comfortable life. I have balanced most of them with good gestures. But I know I could have done more.

[avgas]

Well that lot all sounds like Monsanto so...
They weren't the first and won't be the last. We have a few good kiwi collaborations the world would be horrified to hear about.

[Akzle]

I think you will find most "culture" has become "society" sadly. So even your precious abo's buy food (/drink) and don't live in the dream time anymore.
I did hear of an Amazonian tribe which was still traditional even though the birds got bigger and become "made of metal". But now we are on this roller coaster of doom (white man or otherwise) we are doing so as a melting pot of stupid people.

Also there wont be cave walls. This whole place will be cut open in that time. Even after the black man has claimed it back to sell the resources.

So racial discrepancies don't really mean a damn anymore.
We are all white men, or wannabe white men now. Even the women are working and taken the white men's jobs. I fail to see a trend in any other direction.
Even "earthship"s are made with tyres........so the greenies gonna complain when we make hover cars.
yeah, nah.

Have you read "Mutant Message down under", By Marlo Morgan? If not have a squizz, it talks in great detail about your "flock of abos" chilling and watching.:2thumbsup

i have not, and here i was thinking you didn't know how to read, chur bro, i'll add it to my watchlist.

[Ocean1]

Nah not fashionable - sadly its the fact that we know more (and understand less, as it commonly found with knowing more).
As for the perspective. I'm positive enough living in the now. Life is good and will continue to be good. My only concern is the future generations..........and how badly I have fucked them by enjoying now so much.

As for that link. I call bullshit on a few of those. It doesn't change my perspective, as I mentioned I am positive for what I have right now. But its very easy to say life is better because we don't need kerosene lamps.......... but we also spend about 30% less time with out kids due to having increased ability to work. So swings and roundabouts.
When I see people needing to sign up for 40 year mortgages to buy a house......I wonder if the grass really is greener, or the people who say that had life changes up while others went down.

Musical chairs if you will. I certainly know my sins for being able to have a comfortable life. I have balanced most of them with good gestures. But I know I could have done more.

Wrong, more knowledge does not equate to understanding less.

And no, that tiresome wee rant would not have been positive from a destitute third-world subsistence farmer, from a member of the world's top 5% income earners it's obscene.

You're correct about future generations, first world, they'll fuck it up because they've been stupidly sheltered from the consequences of their behaviour. Bad parenting.

Kerosene lamps is what you got from that article? What about the extra decade of life? What about the 400% reduction in infant mortality? Avgas must try harder with comprehension.

Not greener? What fucking planet are you on? NZ houses cost twice what they did a generation ago because they're more than twice the size and full of expensive shit your granddad couldn't have afforded even if it were available then.

If you regret you haven't done more with what chances you've had then I can only suggest that you've got more to come yet. I also suggest you could probably spend some of it to good effect by enumerating the benefits you enjoy compared to every other human ever to have walked the earth under your feet. Then you can explain to your kids what it takes to maintain that quality of life, 'cause there's every indication that they haven't got a fucking clue.

[unstuck]

yeah, nah.


i have not, and here i was thinking you didn't know how to read, chur bro, i'll add it to my watchlist.

I actually read quite a lot, apart from westerns that is.:msn-wink:

[mashman]

Chris Gunness, a spokesman for the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees, succumbs to his emotions during a live interview with Al Jazeera. Gunness was being interviewed about an attack on a UN school shelter in which at least 15 people, mostly women and children, were killed. Gunness says 'What is happening in Gaza, particularly to the children, is an affront to the humanity of all of us' (http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jul/31/un-spokesman-chris-gunness-breaks-down-during-aljazeera-interview-video)

[Akzle]

Chris Gunness, a spokesman for the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees, succumbs to his emotions during a live interview with Al Jazeera. Gunness was being interviewed about an attack on a UN school shelter in which at least 15 people, mostly women and children, were killed. Gunness says 'What is happening in Gaza, particularly to the children, is an affront to the humanity of all of us' (http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jul/31/un-spokesman-chris-gunness-breaks-down-during-aljazeera-interview-video)

jews is hitler.

[oldrider]

jews is hitler.

Compaired to Adolf Netenyahu ... Hitler was a nice guy! :sick: And then there is the rest of the world sitting idly buy like they did when Nazi Germany was killing Jews! :brick:

[Akzle]

Compaired to Adolf Netenyahu ... Hitler was a nice guy! :sick: And then there is the rest of the world sitting idly buy like they did when Nazi Germany was killing Jews! :brick:

hey! Thats racist yo! jews is the most opressed poorest boofuckinghoo race around man, you should feel sorry for them, or youre antisemitic!

[oldrider]

hey! Thats racist yo! jews is the most opressed poorest boofuckinghoo race around man, you should feel sorry for them, or youre antisemitic!

I feel for all humanity .. take away all that stupid religion and everyone involved are probably the nicest individuals you could meet! :love:

Even with the purist form of their religions they might probably make it OK!

The extremists and self interested psychopaths are probably most of the problem! ... They wont go so nothing will change! :facepalm:

[Brian d marge]

reytard alert..............reytard alert

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/10341318/US-rushes-emergency-Iron-Dome-funding

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSuobq-De7uII1fQbILzmb_4FnYExPyGSwT99k0r4_sTtIE_v08KmitqJ bC



Stephen

[avgas]

reytard alert..............reytard alert
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/10341318/US-rushes-emergency-Iron-Dome-funding
Stephen
Just did some research last night on 911 (not conspiracy stuff, just about the terrorists etc) - turns out the attack happened because USA supporting the Israel in the first place :weird:

Of all the dumb things in the planet.....

[unstuck]

Too much momentum involved now for a satisfactory ending, from a human perspective. This is only the beginning, buckle up your seatbelts folks, the track is going to get a little bumpy up ahead.:woohoo::woohoo::Punk::Punk::Punk:

[Akzle]

Just did some research last night on 911 (not conspiracy stuff, just about the terrorists etc) - turns out the attack happened because USA supporting the Israel in the first place :weird:

Of all the dumb things in the planet.....

you've got that one the wrong way 'round there crackerfulla.

the israel owns the jew S of A. the jew S of A is the literal cash cow, farming citizens for jewgolds.

but shhhhhhh. it's a conspiracy mann!

[avgas]

you've got that one the wrong way 'round there crackerfulla.

the israel owns the jew S of A. the jew S of A is the literal cash cow, farming citizens for jewgolds.

but shhhhhhh. it's a conspiracy mann!
Israel didn't exist 100 years ago so not sure how you got that.

It is the other Jubes who own USA. And they are not fans of Israel at all.

It's like 10,000 spoons and all you needed was a UN treaty settlement to stick 50 years ago.

[Akzle]

Israel didn't exist 100 years ago so not sure how you got that.

It is the other Jubes who own USA. And they are not fans of Israel at all.

It's like 10,000 spoons and all you needed was a UN treaty settlement to stick 50 years ago.

whut chu talkin 'bout willis, all gews :heart: israel. that's part of being a gew.
the yurpgews (ironically the ones that also started the jewnited nations, or league of nations, as it was, but that name can't be jewenated.) made up gewland and started hating on the cameljockeys. everyone involved is just jacking the others off, proved time and again. they also made up americaland, so have had their hooks in from the git go.

as far as israel "owning" 'murca there's info out there, i heard the other day that blackarse was going to give them 300 bajillion of americunt monies or some shit to bomb some more kindergartens in the un(jew)occupied parts of palestineland. fun times!

[Brian d marge]

look what santas bringing me
http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-images/lgphilips100inchlcd.jpg

Hope I get the little helpers as well ,,,,

Samick sage I love u


Stephen

[yokel]

Jews having fun with DEW's

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/XCE_047iJaY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Akzle]

look what santas bringing me


a fuken racoon?

[Brian d marge]

a fuken racoon?

kinky byatch


Stephen

[oldrider]

Israel is a nation of peace --- that is absolutely true! :yes:

Yes, they are determined to destroy the Palestinians ... peace by peace by peace by peace! (check out the maps in the post #2801 above)

Don't quote me on this just watch them do it with your own eyes in our most enlightened time in history when every one in the world knows better than that!

They suffered under Nazi Germany and have been telling the world to feel guilty about that and to never ever let it happen again! :spanking:

But guess what? here it is happening again right under our very noses and guess who is doing it this time? ... Israel ... YES! ... Israel! :eek:

"Why" does not matter to me, I have no quarrel about "why" nor do I even judge them on why!

It is simply that they are doing to others what they "screamed blue murder about" when it was being done to them ... and ever since! :nono:

The world should demand that they stop! "NOW"! ... But be prepared to be deafend by the silence ... unfortunately the world gives it's approval by it's silence! :facepalm:

[Banditbandit]

Yeah mate .. the similarities between Gaza and the Warsaw Ghetto in WWII are truly scary ...

http://www.polishgreatness.com/sitebuilder/images/WarsawGhettoUprising-371x243.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-134-0791-29A,_Polen,_Ghetto_Warschau,_Ghettomauer.jpg

https://loosendsdotme.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/childrenoncement_warsaw-02.jpg?w=584&h=432

[mashman]

Obama: 'Russia doesn't make anything,' West must be firm with China (http://news.yahoo.com/obama-russia-doesnt-anything-west-must-firm-china-201843411.html)... he might not want to produce the official, snigger, unemployment stats to back up his case though. And this is the supposed leader of the free world... sounds like yer typical petulant child spewing that his dad is bigger than the other fullas dad. What a dipshit.

[mashman]

French bank latest to fall to IRD tax avoidance net (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/french-bank-latest-fall-ird-034100612.html)... 13 years of avoidance eh. They're a bank. They can print their own money. Yet they choose to avoid taxes. Something wrong with that picture.

[oneofsix]

French bank latest to fall to IRD tax avoidance net (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/french-bank-latest-fall-ird-034100612.html)... 13 years of avoidance eh. They're a bank. They can print their own money. Yet they choose to avoid taxes. Something wrong with that picture.

Makes perfect sense, they are a bank, they are all about having money and protecting the money.

[blue rider]

fun times in british columbia

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/06/this-is-devastation-toxic-british-columbia-mine-spill-compared-to-exxon-valdez-disaster/

[avgas]

fun times in british columbia
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/06/this-is-devastation-toxic-british-columbia-mine-spill-compared-to-exxon-valdez-disaster/

It's like Waihi...... 20 years from now.

K gouge will never been the same that is for sure.

[Kornholio]

Wow, that is pretty fucked up

[Brian d marge]

Wow, that is pretty fucked up


So is this

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I was going to post something half way intelligent , then I thought .....


ahhhhhh fk it . ......

Stephen

[Banditbandit]

I was going to post something half way intelligent , then I thought .....


ahhhhhh fk it . ......

Stephen

Yeah .. excellent choice

[Akzle]

Makes perfect sense, they are a bank, they are all about having money and protecting the money.

oh honey, you clearly missed T. Jewensteins seminar: 'Banking 101, or - how to get everyone to consent to voluntary enslavement, and your own motoryacht!'

[unstuck]

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[oldrider]

Thats a bit like Gaza and Israel ... only the guy with the fingers has got more strike power than Gaza! :shifty:

[mashman]

Obama authorizes airstrikes in Iraq ‘to protect US personnel’ (http://rt.com/news/178852-obama-authorizes-iraq-airstrikes/)... preparing for round 3?

[Banditbandit]

They're just not going to let Iraq go ...

[oldrider]

“When we face a situation like we do on that mountain, with innocent people facing the prospect of violence on a horrific scale, when we have a mandate to help ... and when we have the unique capabilities to avert a massacre," he added, "then I believe the United States of America cannot turn a blind eye”! .......... Like we did in Gaza! ..... President Obama on Iraq! Really consistent aye! :yes:


... No no no not Gaza! .... In that one he sent Israel money and munitions to quell the wrath of the Hamas terrorist invaders and protect Israeli citizens from babies! :kick:

[yokel]

They're just not going to let Iraq go ...

It's ok cupcake, the universe doesn't exist so it's not actually happening.
Go back to sleep

[mashman]

They're just not going to let Iraq go ...

It's not theirs.

[mashman]

fun times in british columbia

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/06/this-is-devastation-toxic-british-columbia-mine-spill-compared-to-exxon-valdez-disaster/

Not enough money available to make it a priority eh :facepalm:. It's gonna cost a fortune to pretend to put right. Wonder where that money is going to come from? Anyhoo...

I've yet to watch this (http://rt.com/shows/documentary/174308-canada-profitable-oil-sands/) but the ad for it looked interesting.

[Brian d marge]

Israel is a nation of peace --- that is absolutely true! :yes:

Yes, they are determined to destroy the Palestinians ... peace by peace by peace by peace! (check out the maps in the post #2801 above)

Don't quote me on this just watch them do it with your own eyes in our most enlightened time in history when every one in the world knows better than that!

They suffered under Nazi Germany and have been telling the world to feel guilty about that and to never ever let it happen again! :spanking:

But guess what? here it is happening again right under our very noses and guess who is doing it this time? ... Israel ... YES! ... Israel! :eek:

"Why" does not matter to me, I have no quarrel about "why" nor do I even judge them on why!

It is simply that they are doing to others what they "screamed blue murder about" when it was being done to them ... and ever since! :nono:

The world should demand that they stop! "NOW"! ... But be prepared to be deafend by the silence ... unfortunately the world gives it's approval by it's silence! :facepalm:


a NICE 101 of whats going on......

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Stephen

[mashman]

a NICE 101 of whats going on......

Stephen

Isralistine is the only way to go. Get it over with and integrate. Behead those who would kill based on nationality and past grievances. Move forwards, coz it sounds like the ceasefire is going to end.

[oldrider]

a NICE 101 of whats going on......Stephen

That is the Israeli soft (Disney world type) version of events! ... Kinda like the the Pakeha/Maori versions of the treaty of Waitangi low on empathy!

Why can't those pesky Palestinians see a good deal when it's dished up to them? .... Because it's icing sugar coated :bs: distributed by Zionist controlled world media!

Find the equivalent from a Palestinian source then compare the two versions! :niceone:

[Kornholio]

The only winner out of this will be Youtube

[Brian d marge]

That is the Israeli soft (Disney world type) version of events! ... Kinda like the the Pakeha/Maori versions of the treaty of Waitangi low on empathy!

Why can't those pesky Palestinians see a good deal when it's dished up to them? .... Because it's icing sugar coated :bs: distributed by Zionist controlled world media!

Find the equivalent from a Palestinian source then compare the two versions! :niceone:

heading down that path as we speak....Even that version seemed liike one particular side was and still is making a land grab.....

well they printed enough money , so funds should be an issue


Stephen

btw , some jewish friends of mine living in Belfast joined the Orange order ,

everytime u give them a hug , u get freshly squeezed orange jews

[avgas]

That is the Israeli soft (Disney world type) version of events! ... Kinda like the the Pakeha/Maori versions of the treaty of Waitangi low on empathy!
Why can't those pesky Palestinians see a good deal when it's dished up to them? .... Because it's icing sugar coated :bs: distributed by Zionist controlled world media!
Find the equivalent from a Palestinian source then compare the two versions! :niceone:
My Palestinian friends were quite vocal about their hatred towards Israel. But even they said that if the previous UN plans were put in place, they would live peacefully with Israel.
So I guess you know when your beat, and sometimes survival is better than fighting for the risk of having more land or death.

[unstuck]

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[unstuck]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/06/01/grow-food-not-lawns-families-are-fined-for-growing-food-on-their-front-lawn/ :facepalm:

[mashman]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/06/01/grow-food-not-lawns-families-are-fined-for-growing-food-on-their-front-lawn/ :facepalm:

Thank god for that. It might have caught on.

[unstuck]

Thank god for that. It might have caught on.

Fuck no, we cannot having people being self sufficient. No profit in that.:cool:

[Akzle]

fuken hate pricks who tell me what i cant grow

[oldrider]

fuken hate pricks who tell me what i cant grow

Tell you what you can grow and nobody can stop you unless they kill you .... OLD! :nya: .(lead us not into temptation!)

[Brian d marge]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/06/01/grow-food-not-lawns-families-are-fined-for-growing-food-on-their-front-lawn/ :facepalm:

Im with Vyvyan on this ....

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[oldrider]

Im with Vyvyan on this ....Stephen

Hey my Mom was a ginger ... I wonder if we (me and Vyvyan) are related? :blip:

[mashman]

(lead us not into temptation!)

But deliver us from those fuckers who believe that we should live like them, because they say so.

[Brian d marge]

But deliver us from those fuckers who believe that we should live like them, because they say so.


You do realise that after the reign of terror in froggyland back in the day , more peasants were killed by rampaging aristos than were given haircuts by robespierre.....

run away run away .........

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[yokel]

it's a stupid world full of idiots

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[oldrider]

it's a stupid world full of idiots

An unfortunate truth, take the shades down and look, you can clearly see the people who control the world! :yes:

They are so sure of themselves that they don't even try to hide it any more ... you gotta hand it to them we are in their palm! :brick:

Is it too late to change things? .... Never say die but it won't be easy now! :oi-grr:

[yokel]

An unfortunate truth, take the shades down and look, you can clearly see the people who control the world! :yes:

They are so sure of themselves that they don't even try to hide it any more ... you gotta hand it to them we are in their palm! :brick:

Is it too late to change things? .... Never say die but it won't be easy now! :oi-grr:

I cant clearly see the ones that control the world but when you take the shades down you can clearly see the results of their actions.
They've done a geat job of staying out of the limelight.

I want to know who these individuals are?

[Akzle]

I cant clearly see the ones that control the world but when you take the shades down you can clearly see the results of their actions.
They've done a geat job of staying out of the limelight.

I want to know who these individuals are?

the board of dark shadowy figuires, obviously.

[yokel]

the board of dark shadowy figuires, obviously.

yeah that is obvious.
well I guess these fucking cowards are not going to come out of the shadows, I'll have to go into the dark and try and poke one of these cunts in the eye! from the safety of the internet obviously haha

[puddytat]

I cant clearly see the ones that control the world but when you take the shades down you can clearly see the results of their actions.
They've done a geat job of staying out of the limelight.

I want to know who these individuals are?

KDC will tell you who is one of them on the 15th.....

[mashman]

You do realise that after the reign of terror in froggyland back in the day , more peasants were killed by rampaging aristos than were given haircuts by robespierre.....

run away run away .........

Stephen

Wouldn't surprise me. I haven't seen many aristo's in NZ mind.

[yokel]

KDC will tell you who is one of them on the 15th.....

I want KDC to be the real deal, but cant help but think he's just another puppet.
guess we will see

[mashman]

Explained: Argentina’s very modern default (https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-s-default-explained-120953681.html)... The things people do for money, like, "Until this situation is sorted out, Argentina remains in default, its economic outlook remains uncertain and the prospects of its people are left hanging in the balance". The people did nothing.

[mashman]

I want to know who these individuals are?

Here's a starter with a feckload of links. It's pointless searching for them, but if you remove their toys they'll out themselves :yes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvfVR9E6KVA

CHOOOOOOOOOON

[yokel]

Here's a starter with a feckload of links. It's pointless searching for them, but if you remove their toys they'll out themselves :yes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvfVR9E6KVA

CHOOOOOOOOOON

We are the toys, just turn in your IRD number and wind up your corporation as dead

[yokel]

more lies on the TV news this morning about who is funding ISIS,
people are stupid

[mashman]

We are the toys, just turn in your IRD number and wind up your corporation as dead

Do you have any detailed resources (i.e. steps on how to). Civil death is the best I've found so far, but still not found out exactly how it works.

[yokel]

Do you have any detailed resources (i.e. steps on how to). Civil death is the best I've found so far, but still not found out exactly how it works.

I only have a basic understanding on that other than faking your death, look up maritime admiralty law, witch is banking law

[unstuck]

DOC and the government, twisting the truth, never.:tugger::tugger:
Glad I got away from the madness that is DOC.:yes:

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[Banditbandit]

I only have a basic understanding on that other than faking your death, look up maritime admiralty law, witch is banking law

Man, what have you been smoking ??? Where can I get some ??

[mashman]

I only have a basic understanding on that other than faking your death, look up maritime admiralty law, witch is banking law

Chur... I have already been made aware of such things with many thanks to my green texted brother.

[yokel]

Man, what have you been smoking ??? Where can I get some ??

It's that grey stuff between your ears, but I think you stash as gone mouldy bro haha

[yokel]

Chur... I have already been made aware of such things with many thanks to my green texted brother.

You know it stands to reason that there must also be a galactic law as well ha

[mashman]

You know it stands to reason that there must also be a galactic law as well ha

lol... I'm becoming familiar with it.

[Brian d marge]

Do you have any detailed resources (i.e. steps on how to). Civil death is the best I've found so far, but still not found out exactly how it works.


I wonder how far one could go with non participation

wasnt it a guy called spooner ? in the us of a who at the time of the civil war went down that path??

Stephen

[mashman]

I wonder how far one could go with non participation

wasnt it a guy called spooner ? in the us of a who at the time of the civil war went down that path??

Stephen

Dunno. As long as you can pay for it I doubt anyone would give a shit though. Obviously country dependent :laugh:

Never heard of the guy.

[Brian d marge]

I mean
If start off paying everything in cash

Then withdraw from the system

Earning no money

All self sufficient. , . .

I get to rates and hospital . . .actually hospital i can get around

But rates i cant as i need to use roads . . .here im stuck


Lysander spooner . Is his name and became a non citizen in order to protest against the war

[mashman]

I mean
If start off paying everything in cash

Then withdraw from the system

Earning no money

All self sufficient. , . .

I get to rates and hospital . . .actually hospital i can get around

But rates i cant as i need to use roads . . .here im stuck


Lysander spooner . Is his name and became a non citizen in order to protest against the war

No doubt one could fuck off into the bush and do that very thing. Why I have no idea, but there's likely folks who do that very thing... like, Amazonians n the like. So it works, right up to the point that whitey mcwhite decides he wants yaw shit.

[unstuck]

Beansprout has been trying that at Gorge river for the last 30yrs, but the good old government still want a slice of flesh of the dude. :devil2:

[Brian d marge]

Beansprout has been trying that at Gorge river for the last 30yrs, but the good old government still want a slice of flesh of the dude. :devil2:
Who is beansprout

[mashman]

Beansprout has been trying that at Gorge river for the last 30yrs, but the good old government still want a slice of flesh of the dude. :devil2:

How are they pinging him?

[unstuck]

How are they pinging him?

Various devious means, Audits by IRD, DOC have decided to charge him for living there, after all the work he has done on the place. But I guess he started it by starting to trade his artworks.:pinch:

[unstuck]

Who is beansprout

http://www.randomhouse.co.nz/books/robert-long/a-life-on-gorge-river-new-zealands-remotest-family-9781869793302.aspx :2thumbsup

[mashman]

Various devious means, Audits by IRD, DOC have decided to charge him for living there, after all the work he has done on the place. But I guess he started it by starting to trade his artworks.:pinch:

Ahhh, the, if you integrate you must do so by our rules eh. My sympathies. He should declare his land a sovereign nation and shoot any fucker that comes to tell him otherwise. I believe that that is permissible by international law.

[unstuck]

Ahhh, the, if you integrate you must do so by our rules eh. My sympathies. He should declare his land a sovereign nation and shoot any fucker that comes to tell him otherwise. I believe that that is permissible by international law.

He chose to live on crown land, his first mistake, believing DOC, his second mistake, taking his wife there and having a family, 3rd mistake. Strike 3 your out. The dude is starting to lose his mind, years ago you could have a decent conversation with him, now it is all garbled and confusing. Bush crazy perhaps. :weird:

[mashman]

He chose to live on crown land, his first mistake, believing DOC, his second mistake, taking his wife there and having a family, 3rd mistake. Strike 3 your out. The dude is starting to lose his mind, years ago you could have a decent conversation with him, now it is all garbled and confusing. Bush crazy perhaps. :weird:

Bagga..........

[Brian d marge]

Once u get between the man and his slice of pie ......

He started to make money , to which you pay the TAX

Suck it up , thats life

Use no money , make no money ( officially, doest mean you have to give up the house in Hong Kong, after all this is what the big corporations do ....and the man is getting pissed at them to !)

Stephen

[yokel]

Once u get between the man and his slice of pie ......

He started to make money , to which you pay the TAX

Suck it up , thats life

Use no money , make no money ( officially, doest mean you have to give up the house in Hong Kong, after all this is what the big corporations do ....and the man is getting pissed at them to !)

Stephen

you do not pay tax, the corporation that is in your name does.
e.g. if you check your drivers licence you'll see your name spelt in all capital letters, that is not you

[Brian d marge]

you do not pay tax, the corporation that is in your name does.
e.g. if you check your drivers licence you'll see your name spelt in all capital letters, that is not you

i have a Japanese licence, its in capitals and the order is wrong AND the first and middle names are joined

dat aint me ......

Officer

Stephen

ps
I think me and the tax dept are plus minus equal ...... not sure who owes whom

Stephen

[Akzle]

you do not pay tax, the corporation that is in your name does.
e.g. if you check your drivers licence you'll see your name spelt in all capital letters, that is not you

not really YOUR name then, is it.
(also, defo not YOUR driving license)

[avgas]

You know it stands to reason that there must also be a galactic law as well ha
Our ones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_plaque#mediaviewer/File:Pioneer10-plaque.jpg

or their ones?
http://sumerianshakespeare.com/media/eff4fb62c807457effff8059ffffe417.jpg

[avgas]

DOC and the government, twisting the truth, never.:tugger::tugger:
Glad I got away from the madness that is DOC.:yes:
Seems crazy doesn't it.
Why are we dumping poisons on the land we are trying to product. Seems very counter productive. You almost wonder if we are just better off leaving it up to the pests to take over instead.

[avgas]

Explained: Argentina’s very modern default (https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-s-default-explained-120953681.html)... The things people do for money, like, "Until this situation is sorted out, Argentina remains in default, its economic outlook remains uncertain and the prospects of its people are left hanging in the balance". The people did nothing.
Can I vote for her to be in charge of NZ?
She has my 2 requirements
- Good enough looking chick
- Understands what an idle threat finances are.

[yokel]

Our ones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_plaque#mediaviewer/File:Pioneer10-plaque.jpg

or their ones?
http://sumerianshakespeare.com/media/eff4fb62c807457effff8059ffffe417.jpg

this dude has a view on the Sumerian texts

http://youtu.be/pe6DN1OoxjE

[Akzle]

Seems crazy doesn't it.
Why are we dumping poisons on the land we are trying to product. Seems very counter productive. You almost wonder if we are just better off leaving it up to the pests to take over instead.

the biggest pests already have.... Y'know, the ones poisoning the land sea and sky as fast as they can manage.

[mashman]

Can I vote for her to be in charge of NZ?
She has my 2 requirements
- Good enough looking chick
- Understands what an idle threat finances are.

No you can't. I wonder if Xena is up for it though :blip:

[SPman]

Explained: Argentina’s very modern default (https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-s-default-explained-120953681.html)... The things people do for money, like, "Until this situation is sorted out, Argentina remains in default, its economic outlook remains uncertain and the prospects of its people are left hanging in the balance". The people did nothing.

Thank you, Paul Singer, Vulture #1

http://www.gregpalast.com/the-vulture-chewing-argentinas-living-corpse/

http://www.gregpalast.com/how-barack-obama-could-end-the-argentina-debt-crisis/

[SPman]

I want to know who these individuals are?

Here's an article about Putin - apparently not the person that's portrayed in the western media.....he's honest, for a starter...!

http://www.russiaotherpointsofview.com/2014/04/russia-report-putin-.html

[oldrider]

I want to know who these individuals are?

Obviously it's not Putin because he is pissing them off and they are trying to discredit him for threatening their plans!

So have a look at who Putin is pissing off.


Here's an article about Putin - apparently not the person that's portrayed in the western media.....he's honest, for a starter...!

http://www.russiaotherpointsofview.com/2014/04/russia-report-putin-.html

Obama says yes master who do you want me to kick to take the worlds attention away from "other" attrocities and at the same time make it look as I am the man?

Whoa hey there is that Putin guy who is thumbing his nose and a few rowdy Arabs who need a good kicking so I will go make a noise over there! :corn:

So he put in his thumb and pulled out a plumb and said ... "what a good boy am I"! ... (Meanwhile relatively unarmed people are being slaughtered in Gaza and he doesn't notice!)

[avgas]

this dude has a view on the Sumerian texts
http://youtu.be/pe6DN1OoxjE
Yes he did. (Saw a while back)
It's funny when you sit in the middle between creationist and evolution and tell everyone they are completely independent of each other. You get called nuts.

Yet if evolution was 100% true - wouldn't we have run out of chimps a few thousand years ago?
Many people have not actually read Darwin's texts either - Darwin clearly states that evolution does not go back to the dawn of time, just he summarized the last 5-10,000 years. The rest he honestly said "I do no know". He completely avoided the historical age of a crocodile or frog - on purpose. His study was how animals had changed from a core set of creatures.
Poor guys must be turning in his grave after what people did by misinterpreting his writings.

[yokel]

Yes he did. (Saw a while back)
It's funny when you sit in the middle between creationist and evolution and tell everyone they are completely independent of each other. You get called nuts.

Yet if evolution was 100% true - wouldn't we have run out of chimps a few thousand years ago?
Many people have not actually read Darwin's texts either - Darwin clearly states that evolution does not go back to the dawn of time, just he summarized the last 5-10,000 years. The rest he honestly said "I do no know". He completely avoided the historical age of a crocodile or frog - on purpose. His study was how animals had changed from a core set of creatures.
Poor guys must be turning in his grave after what people did by misinterpreting his writings.

yeah it is funny, I'd say evolution is at best 50% true, people use what fits their agenda and disregard the rest.

here's another vid http://youtu.be/L777RhL_Fz4

[blue rider]

stuff that happens there and here?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/12/the-de-industrialization-of-america/

[Brian d marge]

I think in detroit some people are moving back to the city and starting gardens making a good wage too so i heard

[mashman]

I think in detroit some people are moving back to the city and starting gardens making a good wage too so i heard

Pretty hard to do when the white muthafuckas are dicking around with the water supply. (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/21/detroit-water-shutoff-life-or-death)

[Brian d marge]

That old nugget . . They have been switching the water back on after the man has disconnected them

Aquaponics baby uses f all water

[avgas]

I'd be buying a big tank and hooking it up to the gutter.......but then I remember yank houses a build by complete retards who can't even figure out why a room needs windows.

[yokel]

Pretty hard to do when the white muthafuckas are dicking around with the water supply. (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/21/detroit-water-shutoff-life-or-death)

detroit is a playground of population manipulation, oh yeah and white mother fuckers are awesome

[mashman]

Flood recovery highlights financial plight of small communities (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/flood-recovery-highlights-financial-plight-185157164--spt.html)... alas, there just isn't enough money so they should all move to the city :facepalm:.

[unstuck]

Flood recovery highlights financial plight of small communities (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/flood-recovery-highlights-financial-plight-185157164--spt.html)... alas, there just isn't enough money so they should all move to the city :facepalm:.

Sounds like one of akky's mates. NZIER principal economist Shamubeel Eaqub says sufficient rates income is not there for some of these small communities to fund large infrastructure like roads.:whistle:

[mashman]

Sounds like one of akky's mates. NZIER principal economist Shamubeel Eaqub says sufficient rates income is not there for some of these small communities to fund large infrastructure like roads.:whistle:

That doods a serious economist... Eaqub too ;) (in fact Eaqub was the fulla that went on telly and said that the entire financial system runs on nothing more than confidence.). Still doesn't help them thar folk up norf though eh. So stressed about a situation that is outwith their control. They should just have a smoke and let it go ;)

[unstuck]

That doods a serious economist... Eaqub too ;) (in fact Eaqub was the fulla that went on telly and said that the entire financial system runs on nothing more than confidence.). Still doesn't help them thar folk up norf though eh. So stressed about a situation that is outwith their control. They should just have a smoke and let it go ;)

Or buy a dirtbike and a 4x4 and shit in a bucket. FTW.:Punk::Punk::Punk:

[mashman]

Or buy a dirtbike and a 4x4 and shit in a bucket. FTW.:Punk::Punk::Punk:

Good way to keep the tourists out :Oops:

[yokel]

http://favimages.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/albert-einstein-quotes-sayings-technology-world-generation.jpg

[mashman]

http://favimages.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/albert-einstein-quotes-sayings-technology-world-generation.jpg

lol... there's a sweet irony in that photo.

[unstuck]

lol... there's a sweet irony in that photo.

Aint that the truth.:lol::lol:

[yokel]

Aint that the truth.:lol::lol:

well at lest I know I'm a dumb cunt haha

[unstuck]

well at lest I know I'm a dumb cunt haha

And are quite happy to stay that way by the sound of it, shame really, I think there is a real heap of potential under that dumb exterior.:niceone:

[Akzle]

And are quite happy to stay that way by the sound of it, shame really, I think there is a real heap of potential under that dumb exterior.:niceone:

huh?
I thought the cunt knew about jews and shit

[unstuck]

huh?
I thought the cunt knew about jews and shit

Dunno about that, seems to be quite intelligent under all that shit though.:2thumbsup

[yokel]

And are quite happy to stay that way by the sound of it, shame really, I think there is a real heap of potential under that dumb exterior.:niceone:

yeah I'm working on it, I know a lot and I don't know a lot ha.
all wise men start off as fools

[unstuck]

yeah I'm working on it, I know a lot and I don't know a lot ha.
all wise men start off as fools

I knew you were a wise man hiding under all that foolishness.:2thumbsup

[yokel]

I knew you were a wise man hiding under all that foolishness.:2thumbsup

Hey thanks bro, wouldn't be the first time I've been told there's some wiseness to my madness but just think yeah right? haha.

[avgas]

Sounds like one of akky's mates. NZIER principal economist Shamubeel Eaqub says sufficient rates income is not there for some of these small communities to fund large infrastructure like roads.:whistle:
Roads are expensive if you fix them every 2 weeks because you don't want to work anymore than 20 minutes drive from home.
As for the poo network - I can attest for its stinkyness. I had to [content removed due to work place BS] :drinknsin

Great bunch of guys up there in Kaikohe too. Friendly bunch.

[unstuck]

Great bunch of guys up there in Kaikohe too. Friendly bunch.

Yep, stayed at a the local nick for a while. Great bunch of blokes and very giving with their ciggys, and the feeds were pretty good.:niceone:

[avgas]

Yep, stayed at a the local nick for a while. Great bunch of blokes and very giving with their ciggys, and the feeds were pretty good.:niceone:
Hangi Pies at the local are good. As are the fancy pants restaurant meals at the local motel (very cool 70's theme).

Coffee at the transfield depot is shit though lol.

[unstuck]

Kaikohe demolition, now there's a movie to give you the giggles.:2thumbsup

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Xa3vpf8p-iA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>:lol::lol:

[blue rider]

so it does work?

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/08/12/3470070/germany-reliable-grid-renewables/

http://www.theecoreport.com/green-blogs/technology/energy/utilities-energy-energy-articles/germany-has-one-of-the-worlds-most-efficient-grids/

[unstuck]

https://scontent-b-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/1743439_619866138130434_8167455104965940682_n.jpg

[mashman]

Cannot spread to unstuck yada yada

http://i1.cpcache.com/product/332467431/dude_wheres_my_401k_green_tshirt.jpg?color=Green&height=150&width=150

[carbonhed]

so it does work?

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/08/12/3470070/germany-reliable-grid-renewables/

http://www.theecoreport.com/green-blogs/technology/energy/utilities-energy-energy-articles/germany-has-one-of-the-worlds-most-efficient-grids/

Talk about rose tinted spectacles. It's reliable "in spite of" not "because of" renewable energy. The whole grid is buckling at the knees because of renewable energy and it's staggeringly expensive energy to boot. It's insane.

Still... if you want to destroy your economy...

Germany's Green Energy Destabilizing Electric Grids (http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/germanys-green-energy-destabilizing-electric-grids/)

Electricity prices in selected countries in 2013 (http://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/electricity-prices-in-selected-countries/)

[avgas]

Renewable energy is a tough one for someone (like me) who worked in that space. I think it needs to exist and be a substantial contributor. The same reason I think we need multiple sources of anything.

I am still scratching my head on why we don't have a thorium test reactor in NZ..........we seemed to have cut our selves off the whole Nuclear debate thing purely because we don't understand (or we suck too much American cock when it comes to knowledge on the matter).

[yokel]

Renewable energy is a tough one for someone (like me) who worked in that space. I think it needs to exist and be a substantial contributor. The same reason I think we need multiple sources of anything.

I am still scratching my head on why we don't have a thorium test reactor in NZ..........we seemed to have cut our selves off the whole Nuclear debate thing purely because we don't understand (or we suck too much American cock when it comes to knowledge on the matter).

look up "LENR" all I can say is the artificial transmutation of the elements is the future, our power needs will be over.
I believe it so it must be true! haha

http://youtu.be/yHJ6julvoMg

[mashman]

Renewable energy is a tough one for someone (like me) who worked in that space. I think it needs to exist and be a substantial contributor. The same reason I think we need multiple sources of anything.

I am still scratching my head on why we don't have a thorium test reactor in NZ..........we seemed to have cut our selves off the whole Nuclear debate thing purely because we don't understand (or we suck too much American cock when it comes to knowledge on the matter).

Completely agree wiv ya. However, as per usual, money and the pursuit of money stops play.

[mashman]

Two held in Malaysia for 'stealing from MH370 victims' (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/24730947/two-held-in-malaysia-for-stealing-from-mh370-victims/)... this sort of shit wouldn't happen under an R.B.E. Actually, there'd be no bank tellers.

[mashman]

Michael Brown shooting: Governor deploys National Guard (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28839522)... I wondered how long that would take. From the reports I've read over the last few days, a little information would have gone a long way in preventing the escalation.

[yokel]

Michael Brown shooting: Governor deploys National Guard (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28839522)... I wondered how long that would take. From the reports I've read over the last few days, a little information would have gone a long way in preventing the escalation.

They want this escalation so they can test out all their new bling bling mob control gear

[Brian d marge]

Well the gun worked . . .6x

[carbonhed]

It's no secret that wind power slaughters tens of thousands of birds every year... often, because of the sites location, the big raptors that sit at the top of the avian food chain.

Now it's been revealed that some of the solar power plants that use computer controlled mirrors to focus the suns rays do an even more spectacular job. Igniting the birds mid flight and leaving a smoking streamer to plunge to the earth.

http://www.chicoer.com/breakingnews/ci_26357771/emerging-desert-solar-plants-scorch-birds-midair

[Akzle]

It's no secret that wind power slaughters tens of thousands of birds every year... often, because of the sites location, the big raptors that sit at the top of the avian food chain.

Now it's been revealed that some of the solar power plants that use computer controlled mirrors to focus the suns rays do an even more spectacular job. Igniting the birds mid flight and leaving a smoking streamer to plunge to the earth.

http://www.chicoer.com/breakingnews/ci_26357771/emerging-desert-solar-plants-scorch-birds-midair

delicious!

[Brian d marge]

Acid rain does a better job

[SPman]

For Mr dmarge


* After the great Abenomics hari-kiri fest, Japan’s public debt is now five times the size of its economy – or a gobsmacking 250% of GDP (http://wolfstreet.com/2014/08/17/japans-fiscal-demise-a-cautionary-tale-for-our-times/). That is off-the-charts relative to all other large developed economies, and is without parallel in previous history.

So...how are things in the land of the plummeting sun.....

[carbonhed]

Acid rain does a better job

Funny you should mention that. That was another scare that didn't pan out at all wasn't it? All rain is acidic 'parently. CO2, water, weak carbonic acid or somesuch. Bit like the ocean acidification when it's actually alkaline and is never likely to become acidic.... spose it's more scarey than "oooh the oceans going to become a tiny amount less alkaline lets be very afraid! Communism is the answer!" Ecofaaaaaags.

[Akzle]

"oooh the oceans going to become a tiny amount less alkaline lets be very afraid! Communism is the answer!" Ecofaaaaaags.

why shouldnt you be afraid? >80% of shit is water. Including you. If you fuck up 80% of shit, (and you dont know you arent) well, that would make you a dick. Faaaaaaaaag.

[Brian d marge]

For Mr dmarge



So...how are things in the land of the plummeting sun.....
Same as

Beer has gone up 280 to 330

Add 10 yen to anything that costs around 100 yen . . . .this cheap arse wine im drinking

The young girls are getting younger and sexier

Gasoline is 151 yen a litre and 160 out of town

My mortgage aint changed 15 million over 40 years at 4 percent . . I think

Viagra is available and is subsidized

This decanter is empty and will cost 200 yen to refill

Banging 20 yr olds is like shooting fish in a barrel

America asked japan which is a pacifist country to buy more guns

China . According to the japanese are a bunch of dishonest poisoners

Schoolgirls still dress in sailor uniforms but their pantys are harder to find in vending machines

Unlike beer and ciggies which are available in vending machines everywhere even soft drink vending machines have beer

I get 50 000 yen a month from the government because 2 condoms had a hole in them with the obvious results

Shaggin a virgin is still not a suprise

The price of motorbikes are still high due to those damn ruskies buying at bds

And thanks to global warming and 50 billion air conditioning machines outside is a place few venture

Mr Abes hands are tiedcause there are too many old people and no want stuff....

If the debt repayment gets to 4 percent we are screwed in a spiralistic germany in 33 kinda way which will be nothin compared to this mess

And the old bill still do fk all


Stephen

Ps whisky is still 20 bucks a bottle for scottish single malt

[carbonhed]

And in another blow to Eco Loonery... shale gas is destroying the bio fuels industry. Cheaper food for the worlds poor FTW.

Must be time to increase those subsidies to keep on turning food into fuel for rich Western Wankers to put in their Prius's.

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/shale-gas-to-drag-world-agro-prices-lower/1280505/0

[Brian d marge]

Funny you should mention that. That was another scare that didn't pan out at all wasn't it? All rain is acidic 'parently. CO2, water, weak carbonic acid or somesuch. Bit like the ocean acidification when it's actually alkaline and is never likely to become acidic.... spose it's more scarey than "oooh the oceans going to become a tiny amount less alkaline lets be very afraid! Communism is the answer!" Ecofaaaaaags.
The germans might disagree

[mashman]

Stuff to do with energy and dead things

So where are we going to get our energy from in the future? Ya can't dig forever coz yer gonna run out. When was the last time the sun ran out? I don't see you printing a story about the billions of wildlife wiped out when felling the amazon f'rinstance. Where's the happy happy balance story to counteract the ravenous financial industrial machine?

[Brian d marge]

And in another blow to Eco Loonery... shale gas is destroying the bio fuels industry. Cheaper food for the worlds poor FTW.

Must be time to increase those subsidies to keep on turning food into fuel for rich Western Wankers to put in their Prius's.

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/shale-gas-to-drag-world-agro-prices-lower/1280505/0
This is a party political broadcast on behalf of the Monsanto party

Have you seen the mess left behind by monocultures?

seriously not good

Stephen

[Akzle]

This is a party political broadcast on behalf of the Monsanto party

Have you seen the mess left behind by monocultures?

seriously not good

Stephen

fuck i thought i saw a bee the other day... but i didn't.

just munching back my grain fed beef burger from maccas yo. roundup ready (and willing) zea mays crop, fed to antibiotically, hormonally enhanced cows, ground up and
served on ground bleached wheat (also roundup ready, and grown in depleted soils with petroleum based fertilisers) that's been added to water and baked, instead of used as glue.

fuck i love bees.

[carbonhed]

This is a party political broadcast on behalf of the Monsanto party

Have you seen the mess left behind by monocultures?

seriously not good

Stephen

You mean the way they grow crops for biofuels?

Or do you have some quaint notion that it's done in a permaculture stylee with little fluffy ducks wandering about?

On an unrelated note did you hear that the smelly hippies in Germany had turned off all their nuclear power plants after Fukushima? Presumably because they don't have massive earthquakes and tsunamis in Germany very often... but you can never be too carefull eh?

Guess what they replaced it with. Yep that's right coal. Not just any coal though. Over half is generated by burning lignite/brown coal... the shittiest coal on the planet. This when there's oceans of shale gas just waiting to be exploited.

If you wanted a graphic example of exactly why you should NEVER let the smelly hippies get in charge of anything... Germany would be a case study.

http://theenergycollective.com/robertwilson190/456961/reality-check-germany-does-not-get-half-its-energy-solar

[blue rider]

interesting read

http://kottke.org/14/08/policing-by-consent

[Akzle]

interesting read

http://kottke.org/14/08/policing-by-consent
i like this bit:
constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy,

[Brian d marge]

You mean the way they grow crops for biofuels?

Or do you have some quaint notion that it's done in a permaculture stylee with little fluffy ducks wandering about?

On an unrelated note did you hear that the smelly hippies in Germany had turned off all their nuclear power plants after Fukushima? Presumably because they don't have massive earthquakes and tsunamis in Germany very often... but you can never be too carefull eh?

Guess what they replaced it with. Yep that's right coal. Not just any coal though. Over half is generated by burning lignite/brown coal... the shittiest coal on the planet. This when there's oceans of shale gas just waiting to be exploited.

If you wanted a graphic example of exactly why you should NEVER let the smelly hippies get in charge of anything... Germany would be a case study.

http://theenergycollective.com/robertwilson190/456961/reality-check-germany-does-not-get-half-its-energy-solar
Fluffy ducks

As for germany nuclear is quite a clean source of electricity

Just, . Well look what happened here
There are stone markers all around japan saying once upon a time there was a tsunami that reached here
The highest i saw was 34 meters up a hill

When anuke plantis workin all basically is ok

But


When it goes tits up . It fks thing up big style

If ur happy with that more power to ya

Same with monocultures

Stephen

[puddytat]

You mean the way they grow crops for biofuels?

Or do you have some quaint notion that it's done in a permaculture stylee with little fluffy ducks wandering about?

On an unrelated note did you hear that the smelly hippies in Germany had turned off all their nuclear power plants after Fukushima? Presumably because they don't have massive earthquakes and tsunamis in Germany very often... but you can never be too carefull eh?

Guess what they replaced it with. Yep that's right coal. Not just any coal though. Over half is generated by burning lignite/brown coal... the shittiest coal on the planet. This when there's oceans of shale gas just waiting to be exploited.

If you wanted a graphic example of exactly why you should NEVER let the smelly hippies get in charge of anything... Germany would be a case study.

http://theenergycollective.com/robertwilson190/456961/reality-check-germany-does-not-get-half-its-energy-solar

You haven't been taking your meds eh?

Or a bad day on Whaleoil.

[Brian d marge]

fuck i thought i saw a bee the other day... but i didn't.

just munching back my grain fed beef burger from maccas yo. roundup ready (and willing) zea mays crop, fed to antibiotically, hormonally enhanced cows, ground up and
served on ground bleached wheat (also roundup ready, and grown in depleted soils with petroleum based fertilisers) that's been added to water and baked, instead of used as glue.

fuck i love bees.

Hey dont knock Roundup, its been topping Indian farmers since august 1971 ...

Stephen

[carbonhed]

Hey dont knock Roundup, its been topping Indian farmers since august 1971 ...

Stephen

Link? Because I'm going with your usual horseshit.

[yokel]

Stupid world

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[Oscar]

Stupid world



That is even more retarded than usual.
If you believe that you may be the stupidest person on KB (and that would mean being stupider than Mashy, which is a big call).

[yokel]

That is even more retarded than usual.
If you believe that you may be the stupidest person on KB (and that would mean being stupider than Mashy, which is a big call).

Hey if you want to believe everything on the idiot box that is entirely up to you

[Brian d marge]

Link? Because I'm going with your usual horseshit.
Just type in india and monsanto

Its not hard

[carbonhed]

Just type in india and monsanto

Its not hard

Ah right. Horseshit then.

[Brian d marge]

Well ivejust done it and the first 2 explained all

Try it i dare u

Google that internet thingy

Then keyboard tap the following keys

India monsanto . . .in that order

Bingo . . . .

[puddytat]

Ah right. Horseshit then.

Yeah. just like neonicotinoids.......head in the sand much?

[carbonhed]

Really? You read that shit and believe it? Truly you cunts shouldn't be allowed out without a white stick and a seeing eye dog.

So the farmer fucks up and fucks up and fucks up... and it's the guy who sold him the seeds? Did you ever read the limits of liability on a packet of seeds? It amounts to the price of the seeds... and only then if they're not true to type.

I've spent my entire life growing food and if shit goes wrong the person to blame... it'll be me.

And what kind of goober swallows insecticide to kill themselves? What an arse of a way to die.

It's always a surprise how divorced from the real world you supermarket shoppers are.

[Brian d marge]

Really? You read that shit and believe it? Truly you cunts shouldn't be allowed out without a white stick and a seeing eye dog.

So the farmer fucks up and fucks up and fucks up... and it's the guy who sold him the seeds? Did you ever read the limits of liability on a packet of seeds? It amounts to the price of the seeds... and only then if they're not true to type.

I've spent my entire life growing food and if shit goes wrong the person to blame... it'll be me.

And what kind of goober swallows insecticide to kill themselves? What an arse of a way to die.

It's always a surprise how divorced from the real world you supermarket shoppers are.
Did you know they produce seeds that only lastone growth cycle

Try saving 10 percent of your seeds for next year

Or buying seeds that you can reuse


Mooooooo

[blue rider]

this could be fun

much fun

http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2014/aug/19/bardabunga-iceland-latest-volcano-threat-air-travel
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/20/1323371/-10-Of-Iceland-Is-Now-A-Prohibited-Area

[carbonhed]

Did you know they produce seeds that only lastone growth cycle

Try saving 10 percent of your seeds for next year

Or buying seeds that you can reuse


Mooooooo

I have never saved my seeds from one season to the next... not for a commercial crop. Why in Gods name would you introduce a risk like that from the get go? There's people who already do that stuff... and a lot better than I can. Like Monsanto. If you save your own seeds you'll get carryover of diseases and viruses that will impact randomly from one season to the next. It can be done but it's subsistence agriculture... who the fuck wants to do that.

Half a dozen lettuces in your back garden does not an authority make.

[carbonhed]

Aaaand just like I can read that shit you're blethering on about and know it's garbage from the off.... here's a link... you don't have to search for it... that gives a slightly more adult version of events than the Daily Mail and Prince Charles.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/01/26/the-myth-of-indias-gm-genocide-genetically-modified-cotton-blamed-for-wave-of-farmer-suicides/

[Brian d marge]

It can be done but it's subsistence agriculture... who the fuck wants to do that.

.
people with little money ......in India

Wonder how we got on all those years ago ( and quite a few years an all ) , with no one to buy seeds from. . . .

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

Aaaand just like I can read that shit you're blethering on about and know it's garbage from the off.... here's a link... you don't have to search for it... that gives a slightly more adult version of events than the Daily Mail and Prince Charles.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/01/26/the-myth-of-indias-gm-genocide-genetically-modified-cotton-blamed-for-wave-of-farmer-suicides/

I poo poo , your poo poo

The Bt cotton theory was challenged. In 2008, a report published by the International Food Policy Research Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Food_Policy_Research_Institute), an agriculture policy think tank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_tank) based in Washington DC


Completely non biased are they ,,,,,,,,,snip IFPRI is part of a network of international research institutes funded in part by the CGIAR (http://www.cgiar.org/), which in turn is funded by governments, private businesses and foundations, and the World Bank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Bank).

Now I wonder who funds the Internationaal food policy institute......oh,,,,,Crop life international is just one .....and I wonder who funds them ...ahhhh

CropLife International is an international federation of agricultural biotechnology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_biotechnology) companies. It was previously known as Global Crop Protection Federation and International Group of National Associations of Manufacturers of Agrochemical Products. CropLife International's members include most of the world's largest agriculture companies such as BASF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASF), Bayer CropScience (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_CropScience), Dow AgroSciences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dow_AgroSciences), DuPont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuPont), FMC Corp. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMC_Corp.), Monsanto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto), Sumitomo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumitomo) and Syngenta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syngenta).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CropLife_International#cite_note-members-2)



wheres me Tui.......



Stephen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers'_suicides_in_India ( wiki but sums up the whole affair)

[yokel]

The TV never lies and tells you all the facts so you can make an informed decision haha

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[carbonhed]

I poo poo , your poo poo

The Bt cotton theory was challenged. In 2008, a report published by the International Food Policy Research Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Food_Policy_Research_Institute), an agriculture policy think tank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_tank) based in Washington DC




wheres me Tui.......



Stephen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers'_suicides_in_India ( wiki but sums up the whole affair)

Did you read the wiki? It supports my link and demolishes your nonsense.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Bt_Cotton_Hectares_and_Farmer_Suicides_Time_Trend_ India.png/390px-Bt_Cotton_Hectares_and_Farmer_Suicides_Time_Trend_ India.png

And we did really fucking badly under subsistence agriculture. You'd be dead in a fortnight if you tried it.

[yokel]

Did you read the wiki? It supports my link and demolishes your nonsense.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Bt_Cotton_Hectares_and_Farmer_Suicides_Time_Trend_ India.png/390px-Bt_Cotton_Hectares_and_Farmer_Suicides_Time_Trend_ India.png

And we did really fucking badly under subsistence agriculture. You'd be dead in a fortnight if you tried it.

Great we get more Indians

[mashman]

people with little money ......in India

Wonder how we got on all those years ago ( and quite a few years an all ) , with no one to buy seeds from. . . .

Stephen

I think they did business with Nature. I keep hearing about this, nature stuff... sounds amazing and should be given some serious consideration. Perhaps someone should study it some day, it might turn out t be useful.

[Ocean1]

I think they did business with Nature. I keep hearing about this, nature stuff... sounds amazing and should be given some serious consideration. Perhaps someone should study it some day, it might turn out t be useful.



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300135

[mashman]

http://media.veryfunnypics.eu/2012/12/funny-picture-i-see-people-who-like-their-own-status.jpg

http://cdn.timerime.com/cdn-4/upload/resized/60900/692149/resized_image2_e5618a04e2a2f6c915bb0a139ba8a8fb.jp g

Oh noes, they're coming to take stuff away from me :killingme... your ignorance knows no bounds it seems.

[carbonhed]

I think they did business with Nature. I keep hearing about this, nature stuff... sounds amazing and should be given some serious consideration. Perhaps someone should study it some day, it might turn out t be useful.

Oh wait! Now I get it. We're dealing with middle aged urbanistas dreaming of returning to the land. So where I see sharecropping as a life of unremitting toil, hardship and misery, you just see yourself sitting on your porch in a honey coloured evening, chillin after a days rewarding manual labour.

Man this could be you!

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[mashman]

Oh wait! Now I get it. We're dealing with middle aged urbanistas dreaming of returning to the land. So where I see sharecropping as a life of unremitting toil, hardship and misery, you just see yourself sitting on your porch in a honey coloured evening, chillin after a days rewarding manual labour.


No, you don't get it... quite obviously... but at least you stayed true to the KB assumptions doctrine of making shit up irrespective. Choice bro.

[carbonhed]

No, you don't get it... quite obviously... but at least you stayed true to the KB assumptions doctrine of making shit up irrespective. Choice bro.

Damn!

Maybe you see yerself electrified?

Mashie chillaxin en famille after a hard day pickin cotton (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/3478659)

[mashman]

Damn!

Maybe you see yerself electrified?


Meh, de blues is de blues irrespective of electricity... I'm in the pink :D

[mashman]

"Outgoing UN rights chief rebukes UN Security Council
Navi Pilay, the outgoing UN rights chief, has rebuked the UN Security Council for failing to stop intolerable human suffering and serious breaches of global peace and security and accused it of putting short-term geopolitical concerns and narrow national interests first. She said crises in Syria, Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iraq, Libya, Mali, Gaza Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan and Ukraine are all examples of the international community’s failure to prevent conflict. She suggested the UN should come up with a new response to rights violations, such as rapid, flexible human rights monitoring missions. She also recommended introducing a UN Arms Trade Treaty to try and regulate the $85 billion a year industry and keep weapons out of the hands of rights abusers and criminals."

Not shit, ya don't say, ya coulda fooled me, how's yer millennium development goals goin? :facepalm:

[mashman]

Bank of America agrees to record $17bn settlement over mortgage fraud (http://rt.com/business/181724-bank-of-america-17-billion/)... fraud committed, no one in jail, could it be that bankers can't be jailed because they print money? What was it that Mayer Amschel Bauer said.......

[Ocean1]

Oh noes, they're coming to take stuff away from me :killingme... your ignorance knows no bounds it seems.

Sure it does.

When I see the beginning of yours I know I'm already well tapped out.

[SPman]

‘the eurozone economy is flatlining, the African banks look suspect, and the damned if do or don’t list reads America, Russia, Germany, Eurozone and China. So convinced are the movers and shakers that there is zero real prospect of economic recovery, they’ve first poured money into gold, then smelt the fix and moved onto property. Now even the alternative of effectively paying to lend money to the German and American governments looks better than hanging around too much longer in the most overpriced stock market in human history.’
.......Looked at from this angle, I really don’t see how a stock market crash can now be more than six weeks away.




http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/08/21/interest-rate-rises-stand-by-for-the-traffic-accident/

[Brian d marge]

Did you read the wiki? It supports my link and demolishes your nonsense.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Bt_Cotton_Hectares_and_Farmer_Suicides_Time_Trend_ India.png/390px-Bt_Cotton_Hectares_and_Farmer_Suicides_Time_Trend_ India.png

And we did really fucking badly under subsistence agriculture. You'd be dead in a fortnight if you tried it.

not only did I read it , but I found out WHO wrote it ...

You have used an article supporting Monsanto , written by a group who "claim" to be independent , in fact on the international food policys web site , they proudly say how independent they are

Funded, by ....Monsanto and every other big agi business

Kinda like the Labour party writing a press release for the national party ......


As for subsistance farming , and a big mess .....Um.... No I wouldnt be dead in a fortnight , as even my my little 5x10 m plot produces enough for my family ...Have so much in fact I swap with the neighbours ...

One wonders how I can get soooo much from such a small space .......I even have enough to make wine and Potieen .... It even supports fish ......

I was told that you could grow Lemons here in Tokyo ....well the tree obviously didnt listen ,

One wonders how ....This nature stuff seems to work .....

So to tidy up the 2 points, for thousands and thousands of years , we did really badly food wise and since Mr Tull and his new fangled invention we have been doing really well........

I call bullshyt

Years ago there was a TV or radio programe in Australia, where some smelly hippies and a main stream famer were gives some land and challenged to grow cotton

the hippies lost, the main stream farmer produced more and made more of a profit .....

No problems here ......except

it was a monoculture, The Hippies failed or werent allowed to explore the other 7 revenue streams that could have been grow as well as the cotton.....

So next time ya down ya big lettuce patch and ya see a bee or healthy insect life , , then ya can say Im wrong ,
BUT if ya dont see a bee or healty insect life ......Im right and in this case ....I would like to be wrong

Sadly ,,,,,,,Im probably not

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

[QUOTE=carbonhed;1130762748]Oh wait! Now I get it. We're dealing with middle aged urbanistas dreaming of returning to the land. So where I see sharecropping as a life of unremitting toil, hardship and misery, you just see yourself sitting on your porch in a honey coloured evening, chillin after a days rewarding manual labour.

Man this could be you!

[QUOTE]

Have you ever though you may have got it wrong

here we have a hippie in action , in Riverton ,,,,,notice how much work he does .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L74WkW1rWKU

here is a farm in England ...... dirty money making farmers ,,,,

http://youtu.be/qVBYgg013KM

here is corn production in America

http://youtu.be/DOD5CsiMey8 ( note the comment about water,)

Now you tell me , which is the better one ...........

Stephen

[puddytat]

Really?

I've spent my entire life growing food and if shit goes wrong the person to blame... it'll be me.

.

And that's why Ive been trying over my entire adult life to not buy shit food grown by cunts like you.

[carbonhed]

Have you ever though you may have got it wrong

here we have a hippie in action , in Riverton ,,,,,notice how much work he does .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L74WkW1rWKU

here is a farm in England ...... dirty money making farmers ,,,,

http://youtu.be/qVBYgg013KM

here is corn production in America

http://youtu.be/DOD5CsiMey8 ( note the comment about water,)

Now you tell me , which is the better one ...........

Stephen

I found all of those truly fascinating, thanks. Particularly the longer British permaculture one.

My favourite bit was " Farmers drool and gardeners rule"... something I've always held to be true.

The worst bit was Mr Jeremy Legett Executive Chairman of Solarcentury confidently predicting in 2009 that "by 2013 , at the latest, we will be facing not just an oil crisis but an energy famine". Personally I think useless cunts like this should simply be dragged out and publicly executed. Harsh perhaps but if we start thinning these fuckers out now future commentators might like to anchor their opinions more closely with the real world and less with what they're trying to sell.

If we all start swinging from the trees, charming though it looks, how do we terraform Mars? How do we sustain a technological society. What's the point of this idyllic "sustainable" lifestyle if we're just sitting on our chuffs waiting for the next big asteroid?

I actually bought, what must have been, one of the very first Permaculture textbooks when I was at university. Probably 1980. When I was studying my lecturers confidently predicted that organics was the next big thing. Still waiting. Though I can swing both ways.

[Akzle]

‘the eurozone economy is flatlining, the African banks look suspect, and the damned if do or don’t list reads America, Russia, Germany, Eurozone and China. So convinced are the movers and shakers that there is zero real prospect of economic recovery, they’ve first poured money into gold, then smelt the fix and moved onto property. Now even the alternative of effectively paying to lend money to the German and American governments looks better than hanging around too much longer in the most overpriced stock market in human history.’
.......Looked at from this angle, I really don’t see how a stock market crash can now be more than six weeks away.




http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/08/21/interest-rate-rises-stand-by-for-the-traffic-accident/

theyll be really fucked when the majority realises that money doesnt exist.

[Brian d marge]

I found all of those truly fascinating, thanks. Particularly the longer British permaculture one.

My favourite bit was " Farmers drool and gardeners rule"... something I've always held to be true.

The worst bit was Mr Jeremy Legett Executive Chairman of Solarcentury confidently predicting in 2009 that "by 2013 , at the latest, we will be facing not just an oil crisis but an energy famine". Personally I think useless cunts like this should simply be dragged out and publicly executed. Harsh perhaps but if we start thinning these fuckers out now future commentators might like to anchor their opinions more closely with the real world and less with what they're trying to sell.

If we all start swinging from the trees, charming though it looks, how do we terraform Mars? How do we sustain a technological society. What's the point of this idyllic "sustainable" lifestyle if we're just sitting on our chuffs waiting for the next big asteroid?

I actually bought, what must have been, one of the very first Permaculture textbooks when I was at university. Probably 1980. When I was studying my lecturers confidently predicted that organics was the next big thing. Still waiting. Though I can swing both ways.

Organic and Permaculture wont be the next big thing , ,,,not enough money in it .....

Stephen

[carbonhed]

Organic and Permaculture wont be the next big thing , ,,,not enough money in it .....

Stephen

No money at all in a handful of berries. Did love it though. Don't want to live like it and wonder how many billions would have to die to be supported by it. I just think if we don't have a technological future and get off this rock then inevitably it will end.

[Ocean1]

Don't want to live like it and wonder how many billions would have to die to be supported by it.

All of those with enough time in their day to bitch about the "economic elite" to start with.

You can take the dole bludger out of the ghetto...

[carbonhed]

All of those with enough time in their day to bitch about the "economic elite" to start with.

You can take the dole bludger out of the ghetto...

:laugh: Would that it were so. Somehow I think we're going to be stuck with them... and roaches.

[mashman]

When I see the beginning of yours I know I'm already well tapped out.

Don't like what you don't understand eh. Fair enough.

[mashman]

‘the eurozone economy is flatlining, the African banks look suspect, and the damned if do or don’t list reads America, Russia, Germany, Eurozone and China. So convinced are the movers and shakers that there is zero real prospect of economic recovery, they’ve first poured money into gold, then smelt the fix and moved onto property. Now even the alternative of effectively paying to lend money to the German and American governments looks better than hanging around too much longer in the most overpriced stock market in human history.’
.......Looked at from this angle, I really don’t see how a stock market crash can now be more than six weeks away.

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/08/21/interest-rate-rises-stand-by-for-the-traffic-accident/

I hope they're wrong about the crash. Ya gotta wonder if TPTB are looking for a viable way out coz they're the ones everyone seems to want to lynch first. I guess that's what's gonna happen if saner heads don't prevail. Ho hum.

[mashman]

If we all start swinging from the trees, charming though it looks, how do we terraform Mars? How do we sustain a technological society. What's the point of this idyllic "sustainable" lifestyle if we're just sitting on our chuffs waiting for the next big asteroid?

Take a look at where we are and ask why? A guy was interested in electricity, another in telephone, another in cars, another in spaceships etc... and they built the lot. We are here because of human innovation. I don't see that changing because we decided to go sustainable. In fact pushing towards sustainability to encourage some spectacular technological advances I reckon. No doubt many will chuff sit, but hey, they do it at the moment, why stress over their non participation and stifle development by pouring money into subsidising their existence.

[Ocean1]

Don't like what you don't understand eh. Fair enough.

Correct.

I don't understand ignorant cunts and I don't like 'em.

[mashman]

Correct.

I don't understand ignorant cunts and I don't like 'em.

You mean you don't like 'em, because you are incapable of understanding 'em? Yeah, that sounds more like it.

[Brian d marge]

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Say no more

Stephen

[avgas]

Bank of America agrees to record $17bn settlement over mortgage fraud (http://rt.com/business/181724-bank-of-america-17-billion/)... fraud committed, no one in jail, could it be that bankers can't be jailed because they print money? What was it that Mayer Amschel Bauer said.......
Charges can still be pressed to lock people up - the settlement was just to appeal to the government.

Still I doubt someone will get locked up. But just saying - they still could.

[mashman]

Charges can still be pressed to lock people up - the settlement was just to appeal to the government.

Still I doubt someone will get locked up. But just saying - they still could.

lol, true, they could. Maybe after the revolution ;)

[Scuba_Steve]

I don't know what movie this is from, but the end of this clip gave me a chuckle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv4iBGjJbaw

[Brian d marge]

Dear ms yellen

WTF are you talkin about willis

It was understated by the unemployment rate, at 6%, she said

2 pencils up the nose and say . . . .wibble . . . Works for me

[SPman]

So - the US reserves the right to invade The Netherlands.........didn't see this in the news.......

......It was not long, however, before the public mood in Europe began to turn. A pivotal factor was openly voiced U.S. threats in a law that had been passed by both the House of Representatives and the Senate of the U.S. Congress that could eventually result in an invasion of the Netherlands by United States army forces. http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/internationales-strafgericht-us-kongress-droht-niederlanden-mit-invasion-a-200430.html

(http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/internationales-strafgericht-us-kongress-droht-niederlanden-mit-invasion-a-200430.html)
When this was learned outrage was expressed not only within the Dutch government, but also among the population of the country. According to the law, if it should ever happen that American citizens are brought before the International Criminal Court (ICC) and accused at The Hague, Washington would exercise the preemptive right to invade the country in order to prevent prosecution.


Remember that Malaysia’s government had permitted a tribunal in 2011, whose judges in the tradition of British court proceedings condemned both George W. Bush and Tony Blair as war criminals. http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/11/20111128105712109215.html
Some Europeans are asking if there could be a connection between the ruling of this tribunal and the loss of two Malaysian airliners.

:killingme

You couldn't make this shit up.........

[carbonhed]

Environmentalism and the fear of disorder (http://reason.com/archives/2014/08/22/environmentalism-and-the-fear-of-disorde)

Know you know the reason for the ...mentalism in Enviromentalism.

[mashman]

Environmentalism and the fear of disorder (http://reason.com/archives/2014/08/22/environmentalism-and-the-fear-of-disorde)

Know you know the reason for the ...mentalism in Enviromentalism.

bwaaaaaaaha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa... where the fuck do you dig up such shite? NEWS FLASH: Humans respond to the information that they have at their disposal.

The example used: "Abstract: In this paper, we address the often contentious debate over state and local recycling policy by carefully estimating the social net benefit of curbside recycling. Benefits are estimated using household survey data from over 4,000 households across 40 western U.S. cities" :shit: and then a decision is made on the social benefits of curbside recycling for the entire country? WTF have you guys been smoking?

You can argue tree huggy fear mongering all you like, but their are environmental issues that need to be addressed for future generations. Mental? Nah.

[yokel]

Things are about to get "interesting"
well played Assad!

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[bogan]

Environmentalism and the fear of disorder (http://reason.com/archives/2014/08/22/environmentalism-and-the-fear-of-disorde)

Know you know the reason for the ...mentalism in Enviromentalism.

Interesting stuff, seems plausible in many cases. Overall though, I'd think no matter the motivation, a lot of environmentalism is for the good.

[Ocean1]

Interesting stuff, seems plausible in many cases. Overall though, I'd think no matter the motivation, a lot of environmentalism is for the good.

It is. Unfortunately, rather a large amount of environmentalism as attempted to be practiced by most environmentalists is ill conceived crap.

[Brian d marge]

A natural forest is in equilibrium and has been since adam was a lad
A system will always try towards equilibrium thats a fact . A trueism

Another fact is that you cannot pump energy into a closed system without a consequence

So if you turn the air conditionioner on at some point along the chain a consequence will appear

Question is how do we minimize the consequences

Stephen

[yokel]

It is. Unfortunately, rather a large amount of environmentalism as attempted to be practiced by most environmentalists is ill conceived crap.

The problem is when certain types use "environmentalism" as a means to control your ass

[Akzle]

The problem is when certain types use "environmentalism" as a means to control your ass

plant some trees, smoke some trees, the circle of life.

[Brian d marge]

plant some trees, smoke some trees, the circle of life.
Respect

Im still on the bushes

[avgas]

lol, true, they could. Maybe after the revolution ;)
There won't be a revolution. All the great minds will simply disappear.
Last country to have a revolution and succeed was Ukraine.......look where they are now?
The world is watching and learning that there is no point fighting the government - now you simply plan your exit from them and leave them.
25% of NZ understands this - If you include the ones who begrudgingly voted.....I estimate that 50% of NZ doesn't care anymore. That figure could be much higher.
In the US the figures are about the same.

The only way a revolution will happen in a 1st world, is if that 50% of the population gets backed into a corner. This will never happen.
We have the perception of freedom and that is enough for most.

[Brian d marge]

There won't be a revolution. All the great minds will simply disappear.
Last country to have a revolution and succeed was Ukraine.......look where they are now?
The world is watching and learning that there is no point fighting the government - now you simply plan your exit from them and leave them.
25% of NZ understands this - If you include the ones who begrudgingly voted.....I estimate that 50% of NZ doesn't care anymore. That figure could be much higher.
In the US the figures are about the same.

The only way a revolution will happen in a 1st world, is if that 50% of the population gets backed into a corner. This will never happen.
We have the perception of freedom and that is enough for most.
London manchester . . . .

And i have my heart set on a tv

[Brian d marge]

bwaaaaaaaha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa... where the fuck do you dig up such shite? NEWS FLASH: Humans respond to the information that they have at their disposal.

The example used: "Abstract: In this paper, we address the often contentious debate over state and local recycling policy by carefully estimating the social net benefit of curbside recycling. Benefits are estimated using household survey data from over 4,000 households across 40 western U.S. cities" :shit: and then a decision is made on the social benefits of curbside recycling for the entire country? WTF have you guys been smoking?

You can argue tree huggy fear mongering all you like, but their are environmental issues that need to be addressed for future generations. Mental? Nah.
its the.......................................

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stephen