Stupid World

[mashman]

Huge rise in catalytic converter thefts (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49767195)... :killingme... seldom is there a more apt example of how the economy works.

[Laava]

LOL, wonder how long before that becomes rife here!

[Viking01]

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/09/21/novelty-joke-pm-from-fake-country-meets-with-trump-silent-on-assange/

And please do watch the Honest Government advert at the end.

[ Edit ]

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/sugar-and-smiles-can-t-dissolve-the-risks-in-getting-too-close-to-trump-20190921-p52tkk.html

[Viking01]

https://www.businessinsider.my/google-ceo-sundar-pichai-warns-against-rushing-into-regulating-ai-2019-9/

[austingtir]

https://www.businessinsider.my/google-ceo-sundar-pichai-warns-against-rushing-into-regulating-ai-2019-9/


Google have proven to be nothing more than a bunch of communist scumbags. Do we really want them pulling the strings of the most powerful computers in the world (which they just finished building I might add) then using that to control the world via AI??

[oldrider]

Google have proven to be nothing more than a bunch of communist scumbags. Do we really want them pulling the strings of the most powerful computers in the world (which they just finished building I might add) then using that to control the world via AI??

Just take a little time and look closer:- That is what you have already got - your "hero" is simply a useful deception/distraction while they get on with it! - MIGA? - :doh: Absolutely!

[Banditbandit]

Google have proven to be nothing more than a bunch of communist scumbags. Do we really want them pulling the strings of the most powerful computers in the world (which they just finished building I might add) then using that to control the world via AI??

So Raymond - what are you going to do about it?

[austingtir]

Just take a little time and look closer:- That is what you have already got - your "hero" is simply a useful deception/distraction while they get on with it! - MIGA? - :doh: Absolutely!


Again do you spaz out and are unable to control your bodily actions at the sight of yarmulkes or do you just gag a little? :weird:

[husaberg]

So Raymond - what are you going to do about it?

I would be interested to see how he figures google are communists, when they are clearly to the non Raymond's a capitalists company attempting to fight regulations so they can maximise their share price and companies net worth
Maybe he just struggles with the meaning of words.:msn-wink:

[Viking01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW-OMR-iWOE

[Viking01]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/24/trump-america-first-unga-1509356

Two video clips present. You can watch the full presentation as well as
Don's little cameo (sorry, am I allowed to say "little" ? )

And being so inclusive, it looks as if everyone that mattered got a mention
as well (whether they wanted it or not).

[Edit]

The deciphered version

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/24/trump-speech-at-un-1507923

[austingtir]

Klanada oh klanada...

Another absolute masterpiece from John Ward:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaf7vImjOz4

[Viking01]

Limbless chickens abroad, and headless chickens at home.

https://www.apnews.com/b576f0f185774b01b8008a91b2b8cdc5

[oldrider]

Trump’s future war with Iran would be ill-advised, illegal, and immoral. It would also occur with near total absence of context.

by Maj. Danny Sjursen, USA (ret.) Posted on September 26, 2019:- https://original.antiwar.com/danny_sjursen/2019/09/25/locked-loaded-and-ludicrous/ - :corn: - Interesting for those that might be interested.

[Laava]

Trump’s future war with Iran would be ill-advised, illegal, and immoral. It would also occur with near total absence of context..

And the sad part is that none of us will be surprised if it happens, and powerless to do anything about it.

[Viking01]

https://www.dw.com/en/bavaria-drunk-unlicensed-driver-speeds-steals-speed-camera-runs-red-light-is-caught/a-50704679

[Viking01]

https://journal-neo.org/2019/10/03/vietnam-begins-reclaiming-info-space-from-us-tech-giants/

You can't do that. Next, you'll be wanting to block our "exceptional" products
and services. And then how will we project "democracy" and "right thinking" into
your homeland ?

I can feel another colour revolution coming on. Or maybe just a few sanctions
to begin with.

[mashman]

Greta Thunberg’s Not-So-Little Carbon Footprint (https://nz.yahoo.com/finance/news/greta-thunberg-not-little-carbon-170000654.html)... :killingme

[TheDemonLord]

Greta Thunberg’s Not-So-Little Carbon Footprint (https://nz.yahoo.com/finance/news/greta-thunberg-not-little-carbon-170000654.html)... :killingme

Well, that should be a surprise to no one.

[austingtir]

The correct way to handle climate activists.

https://twitter.com/neiljetel/status/1179841276050579456?s=21


Honestly all these people just need a damn good hiding like they would of got 20 years ago when everyone wasnt cucked.

[Woodman]

The correct way to handle climate activists.

https://twitter.com/neiljetel/status/1179841276050579456?s=21


Honestly all these people just need a damn good hiding like they would of got 20 years ago when everyone wasnt cucked.

The guys a fuckwitted dinosaur.

[mashman]

The correct way to handle climate activists.

https://twitter.com/neiljetel/status/1179841276050579456?s=21

Aye, best stay quiet and just let the nutters get on the speshul bus coz those anti-climate activist climate activists are the worst.



Honestly all these people just need a damn good hiding like they would of got 20 years ago when everyone wasnt cucked.

That's a bit harsh though, as they only advocate for a worse climate. Sure it's a bit of a fuckin' odd thing to advocate for, but injections.

[TheDemonLord]

The guys a fuckwitted dinosaur.

If you are referring to the guy in the Video - why?

You can protest.
You can protest something that I like.
You can protest something that I like and do so in a manner the inconveniences my access to it.
You cannot, however, protest something that I like and attempt to block my lawful access to it.

I don't speak Danish - but it sounds like he asked them to move first, they didn't comply and so he went about his lawful business. They had no right to prevent his access, they are attempting to use Force to stop people from doing something they don't like, then they get upset when someone reacts in kind.

[Berries]

If you are referring to the guy in the Video - why?
I think he was referring to austingtir.

[Woodman]

If you are referring to the guy in the Video - why?

You can protest.
You can protest something that I like.
You can protest something that I like and do so in a manner the inconveniences my access to it.
You cannot, however, protest something that I like and attempt to block my lawful access to it.

I don't speak Danish - but it sounds like he asked them to move first, they didn't comply and so he went about his lawful business. They had no right to prevent his access, they are attempting to use Force to stop people from doing something they don't like, then they g
et upset when someone reacts in kind.
Oh ffs.
It was just a fucking burger, there would have been another burger shop down the road. Let them protest, it's more important than a burger.

Cue pretend intellectual reply......

[oldrider]

It all looked kinda staged to me - even if you are a big dude why would you trade your life (?) or physical well-being for a frigging burger? :bash:

[austingtir]

They are just really really really stupid people.

Only really stupid people join cults which is exactly what extinction rebellion and practically every other climate change movement is.... all instigated by communists of course.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=m03stzFLcGg



Surprise: Another "Spontaneous" protest group that turns out to be a multi-million dollar organization. And guess whose involved again in backing it...... you guessed it it's everyone's favourite nazi-collaborator Soros.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/03/xr-unglued-cache-of-documents-exposes-green-menace-of-the-extinction-rebellion-xrgate/
https://larouchepub.com/special_report/2019/co2_reduction_is_mass_murder/Text/extinction_rebellion_climate_violence.html

[TheDemonLord]

Oh ffs.
It was just a fucking burger, there would have been another burger shop down the road. Let them protest, it's more important than a burger.

They can protest - if you read my reply carefully, you'll see I even acknowledged their right to protest multiple times. Even going so far to allow them to inconvenience (but not stop) people as part of their protest.

What they cannot do, is unlawfully stop someone from going about their lawful business.

It may be more important than a burger to you. But that does not automatically give you rights over me. You do not get to use your perceived grievances as justification to gain any form of dominion over me. This goes both ways, I neither get to use my issues as grounds to force you to do something to my liking.

And for the bonus point - we know what would happen if the Tables were turned - I'm reminded of a Vegan protest in Canada, where the owner had enough and decided (on his premises) to butcher a Carcass in front of them.

How many of the Protesters said 'Let him Protest'...

If memory serves, they tried calling the Police, the local Council to find every and any means to shut him down. And were ever so butt-hurt when they couldn't.

[TheDemonLord]

It all looked kinda staged to me - even if you are a big dude why would you trade your life (?) or physical well-being for a frigging burger? :bash:

At first I let them stop me from having a Burger, afterall, I'm not crazy about Burgers.
Then I let them stop me from having a car, Afterall, I'm not crazy about Cars.
Then I let them stop me from having Electricity, afterall, I'm not crazy about Electricity.
When they came for me, I was too tired, cold and immobile to fight back.

[oldrider]

Owen Benjamin Reacts to a Brilliant Troll - :corn: - Interesting? Well at least for those that are interested. :whistle:


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Strange? - "State Bill Outlaws Use Of Fetuses In Food Industry" https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/01/20/145539661/state-bill-outlaws-use-of-fetuses-in-food-industry-meets-visceral-reaction

[Woodman]

They can protest - if you read my reply carefully, you'll see I even acknowledged their right to protest multiple times. Even going so far to allow them to inconvenience (but not stop) people as part of their protest.

What they cannot do, is unlawfully stop someone from going about their lawful business.

It may be more important than a burger to you. But that does not automatically give you rights over me. You do not get to use your perceived grievances as justification to gain any form of dominion over me. This goes both ways, I neither get to use my issues as grounds to force you to do something to my liking.

And for the bonus point - we know what would happen if the Tables were turned - I'm reminded of a Vegan protest in Canada, where the owner had enough and decided (on his premises) to butcher a Carcass in front of them.

How many of the Protesters said 'Let him Protest'...

If memory serves, they tried calling the Police, the local Council to find every and any means to shut him down. And were ever so butt-hurt when they couldn't.


Meanwhile, in the real world.......

[TheDemonLord]

Meanwhile, in the real world.......

Is that the 'real world' that is going to end in 10 years? or was it 20? or maybe it was just irreparable damage in 50 years? Or was it 100 years? Or Just that Fossil fuels will run out in 30 years? Or that Civilization will end by the 1990s? Or that Global Cooling will cause major problems post 2000?

Tell me - just Which 'real world' are you referring to?

[oldrider]

FIRST CONTACT? - (Be very very afraid!)

Nasa scientist says ‘we’re close’ to huge reveal about life on Mars – "and humanity ‘isn’t prepared’ for it" :rolleyes: https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/10057875/nasa-scientist-jim-green-life-mars/ - :shit:

[Woodman]

Is that the 'real world' that is going to end in 10 years? or was it 20? or maybe it was just irreparable damage in 50 years? Or was it 100 years? Or Just that Fossil fuels will run out in 30 years? Or that Civilization will end by the 1990s? Or that Global Cooling will cause major problems post 2000?

Tell me - just Which 'real world' are you referring to?

Seriously? You are the stupidest poster on kb Ever.

[austingtir]

Seriously? You are the stupidest poster on kb Ever.

You lefties make it pretty obvious when you've got nothing.


Winning you should try it for once.:yes:

[mashman]

You lefties make it pretty obvious when you've got nothing.

He's a lefty? How can you tell?

[mashman]

Seriously? You are the stupidest poster on kb Ever.

Fish in a fuckin' barrel or what.........

[TheDemonLord]

Seriously? You are the stupidest poster on kb Ever.

Clearly - which is why you continually avoid the point put to you.

I mean, I too can post vapid one-liners, but it comes across as rather 'stupid'....

[Woodman]

Clearly - which is why you continually avoid the point put to you.

I mean, I too can post vapid one-liners, but it comes across as rather 'stupid'....

We are all stupid, just on differing levels of stupid.

[oldrider]

I made a comment to some younger people the other day about New Zealand's Japanese Prisoner of war camp at Featherston in the Wairarapa during WW2.

They were in disbelief of any such thing. - https://nzhistory.govt.nz/49-killed-during-riot-at-featherston-pow-camp - :hitcher: - A little bit of history. Google has much more.

I personally witnessed the camp on many occasions as we rode past in the old Wairarapa rail-car service between Woodville and Wellington.

The camp was right beside the railway track and the POW's could be seen quite clearly. - There was also POW confinement facilities on Soames Island in Wellington harbour. https://www.google.co.nz/search?source=hp&ei=m4ydXfakPITdrQGGpLGIDQ&q=Somes+Island+POW+history%3F&oq=Somes+Island+POW+history%3F&gs_l=psy-ab.12..33i160.3825.17914..22651...0.0..0.272.5948. 2-25......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j0j0i3j0i22i30j33i21.LL6E-xh3hCU&ved=0ahUKEwi23pyW1I7lAhWEbisKHQZSDNEQ4dUDCAk - What else in history gets overlooked in our schools? - :scratch:

[mashman]

What else in history gets overlooked in our schools? - :scratch:

I like this kind of stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W17-QoMzdx8

[Berries]

What else in history gets overlooked in our schools?
Let's get spelling sorted before worrying about history.

[oldrider]

OK - I'll work on that - :laugh:

[oldrider]

Historic and Factual Basis of North Korea’s Hatred Toward America:- :scratch: - https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/10/historic-and-factual-basis-of-north-koreas-hatred-toward-america/ - :Oops: - But aren't we the good guy's?

[Viking01]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/11/michel-barnier-meets-brexit-secretary-after-uks-positive-talks-with-ireland

God help any businesses trying to operate (let alone plan) under the current
environment. [Choose your God as appropriate]

[oldrider]

Gaddafi's last words - "What did I do to you?" - And then they murdered him. :ar15: https://worldtruth.tv/gaddafis-last-words-while-begging-for-mercy-what-did-i-do-to-you/ :o


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[austingtir]

Gaddafi's last words - "What did I do to you?" - And then they murdered him. :ar15: https://worldtruth.tv/gaddafis-last-words-while-begging-for-mercy-what-did-i-do-to-you/ :o




If only these were Clintons last words:

She's a complete turd of a human being. The people that voted for her in 2016 should be ashamed of themselves.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI

[Banditbandit]

FIRST CONTACT? - (Be very very afraid!)

Nasa scientist says ‘we’re close’ to huge reveal about life on Mars – "and humanity ‘isn’t prepared’ for it" :rolleyes:

The SUN !!!!

My God - do you really take the Sun seriously ???


https://www.opnlttr.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/the-sun-3-february-2012-001.jpg?itok=yqEoQuN5

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b5/Freddiehamster.jpg/170px-Freddiehamster.jpg

[TheDemonLord]

To be honest, The Sun used to have some of the most unbiased reporting.

You could always trust what was on Page 3....

[austingtir]

Syria has supposedly declared war on Turkey...

https://twitter.com/AlertChannel/status/1183432994457038848

https://twitter.com/AlertChannel/status/1183462813920124929

Shit could get interesting here.

The Russians might have to start sending over some more heavy ordinance to sort those Turks out.

The Turks just want to put those millions of ("ex" ISIS) they have in camps back in between themselves and kurds which is why they are in there trying to cut this "exclusion zone".... And of course within a year or two we will have ISIS most likely marauding around Syria again cutting peoples heads off or similar in the news and the international community will again feel the need to "conveniently" intervene.... Hopefully Trump just leaves them all to it.

NATO will do SFA.

All this mess was created by Obama and Hillary. They should be strung up.

[austingtir]

https://i.redd.it/n41exkv08ds31.png

[mashman]

:killingme :killingme :killingme

OMG, someone's getting paid for organising something. You communists are all the same. I suppose you think they should protest for free?

[Viking01]

https://southfront.org/ecuador-and-the-imfs-killing-spree/

[austingtir]

OMG, someone's getting paid for organising something. You communists are all the same. I suppose you think they should protest for free?


Good to hear we are on the same page finally. I knew you would come around.:rolleyes:

[Viking01]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/teach-me/116502022/want-to-live-longer-try-getting-a-dog

It was interesting to see the above article this morning.

While only observational, no correlation was established between
the size of the dog and longevity. One can only hope that it is both
linear and positive.

I noted there was little mention of cats in the article, and whether
they could gift any of their extra (un-used) lives to their owners -
and whether there is any limit to gifting.

But I wouldn't be surprised if Treasury currently has a team working
on this problem, in order to more precisely determine future resident
pension entitlements (and costs).

It was also interesting to see at the end of the article that they
had performed a parallel study in Korea, where care home residents
were tasked with looking after crickets for a few weeks (and how
there was an improvement in cognitive function and a reduction in
depression).

But you do have to be careful when conducting such tests. It may be
fake news, but I understand What they didn't tell you was afterwards
(once the study had been concluded), they then fried up the crickets
(into a tasty stir fry) and resident depression sky-rocketed.

[TheDemonLord]

OMG, someone's getting paid for organising something. You communists are all the same. I suppose you think they should protest for free?

They want everyone else to do stuff for free so....

[Woodman]

https://i.redd.it/n41exkv08ds31.png

Pretty sure oil company, pesticide company etc lobbyists are paid as well.

[austingtir]

Pretty sure oil company, pesticide company etc lobbyists are paid as well.


Last I looked they arent climbing on top of airliners which are loading passengers and using diesel powered firetrucks to hose parliament buildings down with fake blood. And just generally being degenerate fuckwits....

But I agree that none of what you mention should be able to openly get paid for spouting propaganda either.

[Woodman]

Last I looked they arent climbing on top of airliners which are loading passengers and using diesel powered firetrucks to hose parliament buildings down with fake blood. And just generally being degenerate fuckwits....

But I agree that none of what you mention should be able to openly get paid for spouting propaganda either.

I dunno, the protesters are more transparent whereas the lobbyists and corporate political party donaters and politicians are as sneaky and backhanded as they come.

Also environmental protesters don't have to go full environmentalist to promote their cause, just as someone who doesn't protest has to start tipping waste oil down the stormwater.

[mashman]

Good to hear we are on the same page finally. I knew you would come around.:rolleyes:

Thank you for making my mind up for me.

[Katman]

Thank you for making my mind up for me.

You will conform.

[mashman]

You will conform.

I always do... albeit in everyone else's lunchtime. It's a much easier delusion to deal with than the facts, heh.

[TheDemonLord]

I dunno, the protesters are more transparent whereas the lobbyists and corporate political party donaters and politicians are as sneaky and backhanded as they come.

Bullshit - the Protestors are as sneaky and backhanded as the Lobbyist - trying to maintain a facade that this is purely a grassroots movement, when it's clearly being funded by certain interest groups.

At least the Lobbyists are honest about who their backers are.


Also environmental protesters don't have to go full environmentalist to promote their cause, just as someone who doesn't protest has to start tipping waste oil down the stormwater.

Okay then - let's dissect that for a moment with one simple question:

"When is it good enough?"

[austingtir]

sEtTLeD sCiEncE

https://i.imgur.com/hvFN5EQ.jpg

[Banditbandit]

sEtTLeD sCiEncE

https://i.imgur.com/hvFN5EQ.jpg

Not true - she has not denied Climate Change at all

[Laava]

Not true - she has not denied Climate Change at all
Lol! "austingit facts" :brick:

[mashman]

sEtTLeD sCiEncE

The settled science of man made climate change.

Once upon a time trees ran from coast to coast. Every now and then the lot would go up in a ball of smoke making the atmosphere and oceans somewhat inhospitable for life... enough so for there to be fossil and geologic records of such cataclysmic events. One pleasant side effect of this natural part of the cycle is that the burn benefits the soil and thus the next generation of tees coming through to clean help make the atmosphere and oceans a little more habitable for life.

Man is the forest fire, except the trees don't get to grow back to balance atmosphere and ocean. Given that our behaviour is outwith the natural cycle of things, and given that we are pumping shitloads of gas (not just one gas... if you wish to pull the whole thing down on the basis of CO2, then you are one of them) into the atmosphere and oceans. Back in the day, nature didn't have smog, nor vehicles pollution of any kind. Nature didn't create petroleum cut with fuels to benefit engines. All completely unnatural gases that change the climate of entire cities for periods of time... or at the very least are only visible under certain heat conditions.

Man is changing the climate, and away from its natural cycle. You can bet yer arse that's going to change the climate... and who knows in what ways given the junk that's in the air and ocean and soil... but hey, yer only a troll when yer slippery eh.

[Woodman]

Bullshit - the Protestors are as sneaky and backhanded as the Lobbyist - trying to maintain a facade that this is purely a grassroots movement, when it's clearly being funded by certain interest groups.

At least the Lobbyists are honest about who their backers are.



Okay then - let's dissect that for a moment with one simple question:

"When is it good enough?"

When is what good enough? You making no sense to me.

[TheDemonLord]

When is what good enough? You making no sense to me.

Given the context I thought it would have been clear: "When is it Good enough?" - in this context referring to Environmentalism.

When is it that we have done enough? At what point do all the Environmental Activists go home, disband their organisations and stop?

[Woodman]

Given the context I thought it would have been clear: "When is it Good enough?" - in this context referring to Environmentalism.

When is it that we have done enough? At what point do all the Environmental Activists go home, disband their organisations and stop?

Never, they are absolutely necessary.

[austingtir]

The settled science of man made climate change.

Once upon a time trees ran from coast to coast. Every now and then the lot would go up in a ball of smoke making the atmosphere and oceans somewhat inhospitable for life... enough so for there to be fossil and geologic records of such cataclysmic events. One pleasant side effect of this natural part of the cycle is that the burn benefits the soil and thus the next generation of tees coming through to clean help make the atmosphere and oceans a little more habitable for life.

Man is the forest fire, except the trees don't get to grow back to balance atmosphere and ocean. Given that our behaviour is outwith the natural cycle of things, and given that we are pumping shitloads of gas (not just one gas... if you wish to pull the whole thing down on the basis of CO2, then you are one of them) into the atmosphere and oceans. Back in the day, nature didn't have smog, nor vehicles pollution of any kind. Nature didn't create petroleum cut with fuels to benefit engines. All completely unnatural gases that change the climate of entire cities for periods of time... or at the very least are only visible under certain heat conditions.

Man is changing the climate, and away from its natural cycle. You can bet yer arse that's going to change the climate... and who knows in what ways given the junk that's in the air and ocean and soil... but hey, yer only a troll when yer slippery eh.


You've never heard of Volcanoes then. Because they back in the day put out more shit into the atmosphere than we could dream of.


End of the day these people greta included and you cant back up a single thing you say with actual science. And the few scientists that do back that up quickly get shown up for having alternative motives (or will do as time goes on).

This explains it best: "If you believe climate change is an existential threat to humanity in 2019, you are the neanderthal of contemporary evolution" NEVER WAS A TRUER WORD SPOKEN!

THE ENTIRE THING IS HIGHLY LIKELY TO BE THE BIGGEST FRAUD EVER PERPETUATED IN HUMAN HISTORY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjcdMU2itv8


And why even bothering to discuss this topic is a complete waste of time (Even if it was a real thing):

"Low Resolution Thinking"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBbvehbomrY&t=3s

[Woodman]

You've never heard of Volcanoes then. Because they back in the day put out more shit into the atmosphere than we could dream of.


End of the day these people greta included and you cant back up a single thing you say with actual science. And the few scientists that do back that up quickly get shown up for having alternative motives (or will do as time goes on).

This explains it best: "If you believe climate change is an existential threat to humanity in 2019, you are the neanderthal of contemporary evolution" NEVER WAS A TRUER WORD SPOKEN!

THE ENTIRE THING IS HIGHLY LIKELY TO BE THE BIGGEST FRAUD EVER PERPETUATED IN HUMAN HISTORY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjcdMU2itv8

So were the volcanoes good or bad?

[austingtir]

So were the volcanoes good or bad?

Depends on your perspective.

I live in a volcanic area and everything grows like crazy here. Im sick of mowing the lawn but my tomatoes are fuckin awesome for instance.

[mashman]

You've never heard of Volcanoes then. Because they back in the day put out more shit into the atmosphere than we could dream of.

I did have volcano written at first, but then removed the need to specify a source for the spark as the spark is pretty much irrelevant when those trees go poof... obviously worse when accompanied by a volcano. Yes volcanoes do do that stuff well, but they stop, just like the forest fire eventually stops, then that super soil gets to annoy the shit out of people who maintain lawns Humans don't stop and nor do their emissions stop and take a break either. But you seem to be on the right lines towards accepting that AGW is an actual thing... just not under the microscope of blaming a single gas. Slight of hand to fool the weak minded into having a fight over what started the fire when it's pretty obvious who's doing the shoveling (all of us). It's like when the Greens state that methane isn't an issue because it's a gas that only lasts about 10 years. What they don't say is that that methane then, primarily, turns into either water vapour or, wait for it, CO2. But yes, that is done on purpose to let the dipshits fight over what does the most damage to justify continuing our AGW at all costs.



End of the day these people greta included and you cant back up a single thing you say with actual science. And the few scientists that do back that up quickly get shown up for having alternative motives (or will do as time goes on).

I just gave you undeniable proof. You even chimed in with what Volcanoes do when they changed the climate. Are you really that much of a dumb fuck to fall for the show? AGW is a thing dude, get used to it... or indeed don't and keep blithering on with your dumbfuckery coz it is moderately amusing.



This explains it best: "If you believe climate change is an existential threat to humanity in 2019, you are the neanderthal of contemporary evolution" NEVER WAS A TRUER WORD SPOKEN!

Did you get that quote from a kindergarden?... coz the kid who uttered it doesn't seem to have got to F for Fossil yet. Extinction events have occurred on this planet before because the climate changed. Maybe you added a word in there that shouldn't have been... coz the NEVER A TRUER WORD is clearly bollocks. Maybe you have a different definition of climate change and you think I'm being unduly unfair and using evidence out of context?



THE ENTIRE THING IS HIGHLY LIKELY TO BE THE BIGGEST FRAUD EVER PERPETUATED IN HUMAN HISTORY

Even more likely is you being sucked in by their propaganda. You spew it like a slippery troll then fall flat on your face thinking you;ve landed in beer. Deny deny deny the completely bleeding obvious ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa. Man they got you good... or was the HIGHLY LIKELY bit added for plausible deniability, pffft. There may well be a massive fraud associated with it, but it doesn't matter if you can't stop it... just like the volcano and forest fire do.



And why even bothering to discuss this topic is a complete waste of time (Even if it was a real thing)

Some people find it important as it really does look to be a real thing... just not the thing they sold you to sell.



"Low Resolution Thinking"


:killingme.... fucksake stop it bro, you're killing me.

[austingtir]

I did have volcano written at first, yada yada yada.....


And after all that you still have not posted a shred of evidence... Atleast you have something in common with your cult leader Greta!!:brick:


Either you've been fooled or you are a fool which is it?


https://youtu.be/NjlC02NsIt0

[Woodman]

Depends on your perspective.

I live in a volcanic area and everything grows like crazy here. Im sick of mowing the lawn but my tomatoes are fuckin awesome for instance.
So you are pro "shit in the air" if it's volcanoes? And anti "shit in the air"if it's humans?

[austingtir]

So you are pro "shit in the air" if it's volcanoes? And anti "shit in the air"if it's humans?

No Its the same thing and neither really matters imo... For one thing even if what you believe is true I think we need a good culling off anyway so even if im wrong (which im not) it doesnt matter.

When was the last time man made pollution stopped a plane flying through a certain area?

Volcanoes kick our ass when it comes to outright output.


"what we are doing now is a fart in the wind in the cosmos of time"

[Woodman]

When was the last time man made pollution stopped a plane flying through a certain area?

What a dumb fuck question

[austingtir]

What a dumb fuck question


Just as I thought you've got nothing. And it wasnt really a question I expected you to answer BTW.

[Woodman]

Just as I thought you've got nothing. And it wasnt really a question I expected you to answer BTW.

Just not worth the effort sorry. If you think it's because I got nothing then, fine, knock yourself out.

[austingtir]

Anyway, the queen is back in my good book after telling parliament over there to pull the stick out of their asses and finish brexit off.

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/e16ac714fc.jpg

[mashman]

And after all that you still have not posted a shred of evidence... Atleast you have something in common with your cult leader Greta!!:brick:

Either you've been fooled or you are a fool which is it?

Yeah, good one.

[TheDemonLord]

Never, they are absolutely necessary.

Correct.

So, if they are never going to stop protesting - why bother trying to appease them?

If there is nothing we can do that will make them happy, then we may as well ignore them - as the net result is better for us.

Then we also need to look at the underlying motivation - if nothing will make them happy, where does that lead to: When we are either all dead and Nature can do as Nature wants or we are reverted back to an animalistic existence.

Either way - no thanks.

[Woodman]

Correct.

So, if they are never going to stop protesting - why bother trying to appease them?

If there is nothing we can do that will make them happy, then we may as well ignore them - as the net result is better for us.

Then we also need to look at the underlying motivation - if nothing will make them happy, where does that lead to: When we are either all dead and Nature can do as Nature wants or we are reverted back to an animalistic existence.

Either way - no thanks.

Okay maybe not to the degree they are protesting now , and I think they are only starting, but they are necessary as a control. Utopia wouldn't need them, but that unicorn will never happen.

[TheDemonLord]

Okay maybe not to the degree they are protesting now , and I think they are only starting, but they are necessary as a control. Utopia wouldn't need them, but that unicorn will never happen.

So we are back to the question - When is it enough? When will the rest of society have done enough so that they are not protesting, at all?

[Katman]

So we are back to the question - When is it enough? When will the rest of society have done enough so that they are not protesting, at all?

I'd suggest that that is a question that can't really be quantified.

I suspect that 'society' will determine when enough protesting has been done.

And with specific regard to environmental issues, I'd also suggest they we're only just seeing the start of any real significant amount of protesting.

[TheDemonLord]

I'd suggest that that is a question that can't really be quantified.

I know, that is the point of asking it, to show that there is not a definitive problem that can be identified and fixed and make them happy, the point is that they will never be happy. And so all attempts to appease them are pointless.


I suspect that 'society' will determine when enough protesting has been done.

There's definitely a Bell Curve of sorts, on some issues, there is enough wider society buy-in to make changes, however at the tail end of the curve, there is a group who are the majority of Protestors who will always be protesting.


And with specific regard to environmental issues, I'd also suggest they we're only just seeing the start of any real significant amount of protesting.

Maybe, Maybe not.

My prediction is that all the Alarmist Predictions will be shown to be nothing but activists crying wolf, meanwhile Society at large will make small incremental adjustments, until someone comes up with some real alternatives for the likes of Plastic, Energy generation, Energy Storage and mined resources.

[Katman]

I know, that is the point of asking it, to show that there is not a definitive problem that can be identified and fixed and make them happy, the point is that they will never be happy. And so all attempts to appease them are pointless.

And I strongly disagree.

There are plenty of definitive problems that can be identified and fixed.

Where it stops is for society to decide.

[Katman]

These two cartoons remind me of a number of people on here.

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[Woodman]

I





My prediction is that all the Alarmist Predictions will be shown to be nothing but activists crying wolf, meanwhile Society at large will make small incremental adjustments, until someone comes up with some real alternatives for the likes of Plastic, Energy generation, Energy Storage and mined resources.

Yup, so the protesting is working. Future generations will be way better informed about the environment, habitat loss etc so that it will be a major consideration in everything we do. Basically if your business plan adversely affects the environment in any way, and/or is not sustainable then it won't happen.

[Woodman]

And with specific regard to environmental issues, I'd also suggest they we're only just seeing the start of any real significant amount of protesting.

Agree, and looking forward to it...

[austingtir]

I would have to flip a coin to decide which one is stupider or more dangerous to this country. The part time PM in this instance is probably making slightly more sense though. But still you've got to wonder when neither of these idiots seem to consider that we could just not let in any. And that should include the refugees that Hannah Tamaki thought might be a good idea when she was caught on the hop this morning to offer them 50k a year not to come.... umm how about we just do nothing! And put all that tax payer money to good use on current NZ citizens!!

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAIQ2h6.img?h=640&w=1119&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=501&y=271


https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/pm-rejects-green-mps-description-of-anti-terrorist-law-as-dog-whistling/ar-AAIQ2hb?li=BBqdk7Q&fbclid=IwAR1M2IkE-5Jd_Wgi7py6P0eyNUKpFsS8UXgbCeYGLnl3apIb7hx_gF8uLvY

Golly G just got back from visiting qatari spy Ilhan Omar in the states im sure to discuss how they can attempt to fuck their respective countries as much as possible before they get the boot!

[Woodman]

I would have to flip a coin to decide which one is stupider or more dangerous to this country. The part time PM in this instance is probably making slightly more sense though. But still you've got to wonder when neither of these idiots seem to consider that we could just not let in any. And that should include the refugees that Hannah Tamaki thought might be a good idea when she was caught on the hop this morning to offer them 50k a year not to come.... umm how about we just do nothing! And put all that tax payer money to good use on current NZ citizens!!

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAIQ2h6.img?h=640&w=1119&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=501&y=271


https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/pm-rejects-green-mps-description-of-anti-terrorist-law-as-dog-whistling/ar-AAIQ2hb?li=BBqdk7Q&fbclid=IwAR1M2IkE-5Jd_Wgi7py6P0eyNUKpFsS8UXgbCeYGLnl3apIb7hx_gF8uLvY

Golly G just got back from visiting qatari spy Ilhan Omar in the states im sure to discuss how they can attempt to fuck their respective countries as much as possible before they get the boot!

Does beg the questions of who decides who Is a terrorist. At what level of protestation does a protestor become a terrorist?

[mashman]

Basically if your business plan adversely affects the environment in any way, and/or is not sustainable then it won't happen.

What are people going to do for work when businesses are no longer allowed to continue trading under those guidelines? Using an approximation of 50% of that which we produce as no longer being allowed to be extracted/produced etc..., where are the new jobs going to come from?... coz jobs are important for some reason, especially the pointless ones.

[Woodman]

What are people going to do for work when businesses are no longer allowed to continue trading under those guidelines? Using an approximation of 50% of that which we produce as no longer being allowed to be extracted/produced etc..., where are the new jobs going to come from?... coz jobs are important for some reason, especially the pointless ones.
No idea, but due to the amount of us, if we keep wrecking bits and pieces of the environment as we go along, the end game isn't going to be very pretty.

[mashman]

No idea, but due to the amount of us, if we keep wrecking bits and pieces of the environment as we go along, the end game isn't going to be very pretty.

Aye... it already isn't for too many. Thing is though, the maths says that it isn't the number of us that's the issue, moreover that which we produce for consumption is. Very briefly: Earth Overshoot = 1.7 sustainable planets each year for BAU to take place. 20% of 7.6 billion people consume 80% of that which is produced. 6.08 billion people survive on 0.34 sustainable planets... but as you say, we keep wrecking bits and pieces of environment as we go, and what's worse, it was all planned approximately 10 years ago when business planned its future, leveraged against it, and delivered year in year out. We are literally living the past lol.

[mashman]

The second image

Technically they'd need to be wearing radiation gear as the 450+ active nuclear reactors missing their regular maintenance would make things a little hard to handle otherwise. ATGATT for the future.

[austingtir]

LMFAO The brits are to kind to these idiots. What we are look at is anti democratic anti western POS and they should be treated as such! Which means they both needed a minimum of a bloody nose.


https://youtu.be/9P1UXYS6Bmg



When the Marxist virtue signalers meet the actual proletariat....

[Woodman]

The commuters are dicks, but that kind of shit is what the movement needs. Good result.

[austingtir]

The commuters are dicks, but that kind of shit is what the movement needs. Good result.

Stopping poor people from getting on an electric train to goto work in apparently one of the roughest areas in london. Not the smartest this bunch...
Yet the crowd still looked like they might give them tea and scones after the fact....

This is what will happen when the police arent around to protect them. And it should be allowed to happen more often than it is.

[Banditbandit]

And it should be allowed to happen more often than it is.

Are you seriously advocating for the return of the Brown Shirt squads???

Seriously ???

People allowed to roam free and attack who they disagree with???


Actually, now I come to think about it - that would mean we could come after you with baseballs bats .. BRING IT ON ..

[austingtir]

Are you seriously advocating for the return of the Brown Shirt squads???

Seriously ???

People allowed to roam free and attack who they disagree with???


Actually, now I come to think about it - that would mean we could come after you with baseballs bats .. BRING IT ON ..


Only you would see any brown shirts in that vid. All I saw was a bunch of people going about their daily lives (which are probably pretty tough) and then having to deal with those clowns. They handled it pretty well really but I would still like to of seen them get a few more bruises on them than they did. If that makes me a brown shirt in your pathetic little mind then so be it.

You should tell your mum to check under the bed for those "nazi's" your worried about before you goto bed each night you might sleep easier.

Must suck still living in your parents basement.

[onearmedbandit]

Rights to protest? Certainly.

Rights to stop me earning a living to support my family? Nope, you better get out of my way.

[mashman]

Rights to protest? Certainly.

Rights to stop me earning a living to support my family? Nope, you better get out of my way.

And if your living is earned in a manner that causes the destruction that is being protested against? Or would you not stop an assassin with a gun pointed at your family's head?

[austingtir]

And if your living is earned in a manner that causes the destruction that is being protested against? Or would you not stop an assassin with a gun pointed at your family's head?

First you've got to prove the destruction is real.

IF the world does not end in 10 years like these people claim they should all be rounded up as the communist agitators that they are (or useful puppets of communist agitators as is more likely) and put in jail for the harm THEY have done to the west.

[Woodman]

First you've got to prove the destruction is real.

IF the world does not end in 10 years like these people claim they should all be rounded up as the communist agitators that they are (or useful puppets of communist agitators as is more likely) and put in jail for the harm THEY have done to the west.

Remember it's not just global warming, it's habitat destruction, biodiversity loss etc. It's happening, these guys are trying to help.

[TheDemonLord]

And if your living is earned in a manner that causes the destruction that is being protested against? Or would you not stop an assassin with a gun pointed at your family's head?

Your proposed manner of Living will cause Destruction - do I get to stop you?

[onearmedbandit]

And if your living is earned in a manner that causes the destruction that is being protested against? Or would you not stop an assassin with a gun pointed at your family's head?

Got anything to support that those commuters were off to their jobs destroying the environment?

[Woodman]

Got anything to support that those commuters were off to their jobs destroying the environment?

The point of the protest was disruption. Nothing really to do with the commuters. They just collateral damage.

[Ocean1]

The point of the protest was disruption. Nothing really to do with the commuters. They just collateral damage.

The fuck you say, if the commuters hadn't been there the rentamob wouldn't have bothered.

[Woodman]

The fuck you say, if the commuters hadn't been there the rentamob wouldn't have bothered.

Why I said nothing REALLY to do with the commuters.

[mashman]

First you've got to prove the destruction is real.

IF the world does not end in 10 years like these people claim they should all be rounded up as the communist agitators that they are (or useful puppets of communist agitators as is more likely) and put in jail for the harm THEY have done to the west.

I gave you more than enough evidence. :killingme@10 years. They're saying we have approximately 10 years to start turning things around. Climate change will play its part, but focusing on CO2 to debunk the destruction that's taking place (where do you think your laptop comes from, or your phone, or your house or shows or clothes or roading or lights or glass or or or or or or or tis all bits of planet) is gullibility personified. CO2 is for the dimwitted to argue over whilst production continues.


Got anything to support that those commuters were off to their jobs destroying the environment?

Yeah sure. Earth Overshoot of the UK sits at 1 sustainable planet used by the 17 May each year. As such, the UK uses approximately 2.7 sustainable planets per year to conduct BAU. If the UK were to address their Overshoot, they would have to cut approximately 2/3's of their economic activity in order to be sustainable i.e. produce less than can be regenerated. Aaaaand for comparison purposes, NZ uses 1 sustainable planet by 6 May. How can a country of 65 million people have a lower carbon footprint than a country with 5 million? By default, wiping out NZ over the UK is better for the future, ha, go figure.

[Viking01]

Despite all the recent news about the expansion of US energy supplies
- and the US now being the largest global exporter of energy, it seems
that it all comes with environmental (and financial) costs.

And thems that incurred the costs may not be the ones meeting the costs
of remediation at the end of the day. The US public has something to look
forward to, in coming years:

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/10/will-the-fracking-revolution-peak-before-ever-making-money.html

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/10/will-the-public-end-up-paying-to-clean-up-the-fracking-boom.html

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/09/documentary-blowout-follows-climate-cost-of-oil-boom-from-fracking-to-exports.html

[Viking01]

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50107320

Suppose that with all the Brexit to-and-fro going on at the moment,
it's a good time to just quietly drop this little item into the press. And
trust that it will be largely overlooked.

[Viking01]

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019/10/feds-balance-sheet-spikes-by-253-billion-now-topping-4-trillion/

Obviously, being a major US bank comes with extra privileges.

[mashman]

You got nothing then Instigatur? Just the usual ignore the evidence. Typical activist.

[austingtir]

^^ He doesnt know the difference between an opinion and actual evidence. It figures.:rolleyes:

If you were talking to me I was ignoring your Opinion. That fact of the matter is you didnt post a jot of evidence for me to ignore.

And im the "activist" when he's the one supporting a bunch of loonie tune extinction rebellion retards....

[mashman]

^^ He doesnt know the difference between an opinion and actual evidence. It figures.:rolleyes:

If you were talking to me I was ignoring your Opinion. That fact of the matter is you didnt post a jot of evidence for me to ignore.

And im the "activist" when he's the one supporting a bunch of loonie tune extinction rebellion retards....

Earth Overshoot and Natural Planetary Systems are exceptionally well documented evidence. That you do not understand this is not a surprise... activist trolls work more effectively when they're dumber than a box of spanners. You activists are all the same. All mouth and zero ability to cognise anything that does not fit within your drama circle. However in the case of the instigatur (it is an anagram of your chosen moniker, dumb ass) your case, Trump the inconsequential, you should be proud of yourself for getting the dumbass Trump commentator troll gig (obviously tailored to your lack of knowledge about anything), coz there must have been millions who were considered, and you were chosen. You are a roll model to all ostriches. Heil mein fuhrer.

[austingtir]

Earth Overshoot and Natural Planetary Systems are exceptionally well documented evidence. That you do not understand this is not a surprise... activist trolls work more effectively when they're dumber than a box of spanners. You activists are all the same. All mouth and zero ability to cognise anything that does not fit within your drama circle. However in the case of the instigatur (it is an anagram of your chosen moniker, dumb ass) your case, Trump the inconsequential, you should be proud of yourself for getting the dumbass Trump commentator troll gig (obviously tailored to your lack of knowledge about anything), coz there must have been millions who were considered, and you were chosen. You are a roll model to all ostriches. Heil mein fuhrer.

^^
https://media.giphy.com/media/XOfhtdaCJg8dG/giphy.gif

[mashman]

delusions of grandeur

Nah bro, this is more like you https://i.imgflip.com/2e6m5j.jpg

[Viking01]

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-court/

[austingtir]

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-court/

The west is on track to be the mirror image of the soviet union within 10 years imo.

All that blood and tears over the last 100 years spent for nothing imo.


The outright propaganda by our MSM and those in power is astounding.

[mashman]

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-court/

Poor fella...

[oldrider]

Only the garb and names were changed to protect the innocents? :blip: https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/1188526416264122370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - (It's an old trick but it just might work again?) - :done:

[austingtir]

https://i.imgur.com/Z9P5JWL.jpg

[Viking01]

https://sputniknews.com/world/201910281077167977-disposal-of-remains-of-eliminated-daesh-leader-baghdadi-completed/

It has been interesting to watch the news slowly unfold.

Especially at a time when the US is seeking all manner
of justification to illegally remain in Syria (and guard
the oil, though I'm not sure who for).

No doubt al Baghdadi will have been "buried at sea" as
well. As per local custom.

I'd hoped the US Joint Chiefs of Staff might be included,
but No, it seems not.

Any Special Forces staff involved in the operation should
take care and avoid helicopter flights in the near future.

[Woodman]

https://i.imgur.com/Z9P5JWL.jpg

Why is she wrong?

[TheDemonLord]

Why is she wrong?

They are the single biggest contributors to CO2 emissions?

[Banditbandit]

Why is she wrong?

She's right because it requires collectivist action .. and Communist China is well set up or that ...

She's wrong because of everything else that goes with Communism ..

I'm surprised because (maybe) austin seems to support her PoV ..

[austingtir]

She's right because it requires collectivist action .. and Communist China is well set up or that ...

She's wrong because of everything else that goes with Communism ..

I'm surprised because (maybe) austin seems to support her PoV ..

I support her POV if that means she gets a free no questions asked bullet to the head.


And it only requires collectivist action if its actually a thing.... which it isnt.

[austingtir]

CNN Uncovers Evidence Hero Dog Sniffed Dozens Of Butts Back In College!

The dog has issued a statement: "I like butts. I've always liked butts. I still like butts, but I never sniff butts to the point of excess. Who's a good boy? I am."

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-uncovers-evidence-hero-dog-sniffed-butts?fbclid=IwAR2a2tbOBDnxMGaI0DIkXYc7Vodn9CsP-yMn6AEWRGMfPqNas3jH9a1uBvk

[oldrider]

MIT PhD Exposes the Entire Student Loan Scam System:- :confused: https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/mit-phd-exposes-the-entire-student-loan-scam-system/ - :hitcher: - Watch the video. :shifty:

[Woodman]

And it only requires collectivist action if its actually a thing.... which it isnt.

On this planet it is.

[austingtir]

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=432381604053963

[mashman]

On why troops are still in Syria. Fuck the hundreds of thousands in the area like... and if no one is fighting then there's no point in guarding anything and your access rights vanish. And all packaged as the U.S. doing the world many services that they should of course be allowed to make on any deal made........ Suck fucked logic it's kind of funny that such is acceptable to the general public of any who support such economics.

“The oil is, you know, so valuable for many reasons. It fueled ISIS, number one. Number two, it helps the Kurds, because it’s basically been taken away from the Kurds. They were able to live with that oil. And number three, it can help us because we should be able to take some also. And what I intend to do, perhaps, is make a deal with an Exxon Mobil or one of our great companies to go in there and do it properly. But, no, we’re protecting the oil. We’re securing the oil. Now, that doesn’t mean we don’t make a deal at some point.” - Donaldo.

[austingtir]

On why troops are still in Syria. Fuck the hundreds of thousands in the area like... and if no one is fighting then there's no point in guarding anything and your access rights vanish. And all packaged as the U.S. doing the world many services that they should of course be allowed to make on any deal made........ Suck fucked logic it's kind of funny that such is acceptable to the general public of any who support such economics.

“The oil is, you know, so valuable for many reasons. It fueled ISIS, number one. Number two, it helps the Kurds, because it’s basically been taken away from the Kurds. They were able to live with that oil. And number three, it can help us because we should be able to take some also. And what I intend to do, perhaps, is make a deal with an Exxon Mobil or one of our great companies to go in there and do it properly. But, no, we’re protecting the oil. We’re securing the oil. Now, that doesn’t mean we don’t make a deal at some point.” - Donaldo.


LOL I saw an article yesterday stating a convoy of exxon mobile trucks escorted by US army was going to get some oil. LMFAO

[austingtir]

The reason why California is really burning...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyJEQjabJjI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=32&v=6roZSA-Q50U

[austingtir]

AT about 6 minutes in the earthworm sex thing takes the cake.



https://youtu.be/f2GA6o6E7hk

[Woodman]

The reason why California is really burning...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyJEQjabJjI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=32&v=6roZSA-Q50U

And if you want more info "just put a little money in my PayPal account" lol lmfao.

[austingtir]

And if you want more info "just put a little money in my PayPal account" lol lmfao.

Yeah that dude is a bit off to say the least.

Still pretty much on the money as I saw someone do an overlay map of the fires from LAST YEAR when that was happening to the proposed amtrac. It layed over perfectly.

[Woodman]

Yeah that dude is a bit off to say the least.

Still pretty much on the money as I saw someone do an overlay map of the fires from LAST YEAR when that was happening to the proposed amtrac. It layed over perfectly.

But what is the theory behind them being in a line?

[mashman]

LOL I saw an article yesterday stating a convoy of exxon mobile trucks escorted by US army was going to get some oil. LMFAO

Did it mention anything about the hundreds of thousands of people being displaced to accommodate such strategy? you may have read it as the dirty dogs running away or something similar.

[austingtir]

Did it mention anything about the hundreds of thousands of people being displaced to accommodate such strategy? you may have read it as the dirty dogs running away or something similar.


You mean the hundres of thousands of people ISIS already raped and murdered? They must like all that if they stuck around.

[mashman]

You mean the hundres of thousands of people ISIS already raped and murdered? They must like all that if they stuck around.

No, the other hundreds of thousands that the U.S. backed and armed temporary allies didn't. I guess not.

[austingtir]

This can only be fixed by doing what a sixteen year old retard says to do and to have a one world government.

"How dare you" not do that!



https://www.foxnews.com/science/explosion-antarctic-sea-ice-ice-age

"Upside-down "rivers" of warm ocean water may be one of the causes of Antarctica's ice shelves breaking up, leading to a rise in sea levels. But a new study suggests an increase in sea ice in a colder climate may lead to a much more devastating change in the Earth's climate — another ice age."



Pfffff

[mashman]

This can only be fixed by doing what a sixteen year old retard says to do and to have a one world government.

What sixteen year old, retarded or not, and outwith yourself of course, wants a 1 world government?

[austingtir]

What sixteen year old, retarded or not, and outwith yourself of course, wants a 1 world government?

Woodman will know he's part of the cult worshiping her afterall. "How dare you" call me retarded BTW.... that should give you another hint.

Edit. Here you go:
https://media.tenor.com/images/3c38117949fb7fcd9baa97291fb7bf3a/tenor.gif


Plenty want a 1 world government. Thats practically the UN's mission statement atm.

[Woodman]

Woodman will know he's part of the cult worshiping her afterall. "How dare you" call me retarded BTW.... that should give you another hint.

Edit. Here you go:
https://media.tenor.com/images/3c38117949fb7fcd9baa97291fb7bf3a/tenor.gif


Plenty want a 1 world government. Thats practically the UN's mission statement atm.

I don't worship her, just think her message is a good one that needs more noise.

[mashman]

Woodman will know he's part of the cult worshiping her afterall. "How dare you" call me retarded BTW.... that should give you another hint.

Plenty want a 1 world government. Thats practically the UN's mission statement atm.

And where did she state that she wanted a one world government?

[austingtir]

And where did she state that she wanted a one world government?

She didnt need to those of us that look into things deeper than face value can find things like this out. Who funds all these climate cultists and antifa? Yep its all the same groups.

She and her parents get there strings pulled by Soros and ANTIFA.


The 1 world government thing is just the end game for them.

[mashman]

She didnt need to those of us that look into things deeper than face value can find things like this out. Who funds all these climate cultists and antifa? Yep its all the same groups.

She and her parents get there strings pulled by Soros and ANTIFA.

The 1 world government thing is just the end game for them.

:killingme... brilliant. Ignore what she's saying on the basis that she is being paid by the people who are actually paying Trump. Priceless mate, priceless. A printed copy of Agenda 21 fell off a shelf and hit you square in the noggin pretty hard dinnit......

[austingtir]

:killingme... brilliant. Ignore what she's saying on the basis that she is being paid by the people who are actually paying Trump. Priceless mate, priceless. A printed copy of Agenda 21 fell off a shelf and hit you square in the noggin pretty hard dinnit......

^^
Why u shouldnt post when your drunk or high!

[mashman]

^^
Why u shouldnt post when your drunk or high!

And yet more class. Well done. Truth that even in paper copy books can knock plenty of sense out of ya. Trump is a globalist climate denier. These are pre-requisites for the continuation of agenda 21. You should know this, even as a troll you should know this. Yet no. Right wing, Left wing. Same bird. Yet no. He gets a hall pass because, erm, well he's not a democrat. Don't you have a better script to choose from? or even a decent comeback perhaps? Maybe you shoulda read the agenda instead of using it as a subliminal learning pillow.

[austingtir]

And yet more class. Well done. Truth that even in paper copy books can knock plenty of sense out of ya. Trump is a globalist climate denier. These are pre-requisites for the continuation of agenda 21. You should know this, even as a troll you should know this. Yet no. Right wing, Left wing. Same bird. Yet no. He gets a hall pass because, erm, well he's not a democrat. Don't you have a better script to choose from? or even a decent comeback perhaps? Maybe you shoulda read the agenda instead of using it as a subliminal learning pillow.

https://developer.ibm.com/apiconnect/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2017/10/princess-bride-quote-300x187.jpg



https://youtu.be/gz--5LTTmaM?t=213

https://i.imgflip.com/13b5op.jpg

[mashman]

:killingme

Both wings, same bird, same lies, same nothing happening other than business growth around the world and a president to enforce his will upon the globe.

Globalist: a person who advocates the interpretation or planning of economic and foreign policy in relation to events and developments throughout the world.

Trump is a globalist. All denial is stupidity. Oh, and if you think there's something wrong with being a globalist, then you need to be whacked with that printed copy of agenda 21 again. But it was funny to watch you spurt out meme's in his defense thinking that being a globalist is a bad thing. Being a useless twat of a human is a bad thing... but that's why you follow who you follow. I love your desperation.

[TheDemonLord]

Both wings, same bird, same lies, same nothing happening other than business growth around the world and a president to enforce his will upon the globe.

Globalist: a person who advocates the interpretation or planning of economic and foreign policy in relation to events and developments throughout the world.

Trump is a globalist. All denial is stupidity. Oh, and if you think there's something wrong with being a globalist, then you need to be whacked with that printed copy of agenda 21 again. But it was funny to watch you spurt out meme's in his defense thinking that being a globalist is a bad thing. Being a useless twat of a human is a bad thing... but that's why you follow who you follow. I love your desperation.

I don't personally take as much objection to the term Globalist as others, but it is clear that Trump is not a Globalist in the traditional sense. He has withdrawn US troops from overseas, he has engaged in protectionist actions for the US economy, He has withdrawn from international treaties.

The only 'globalist' part of Trump is that he wants to do business with the world, but that is not the same as wanting to be in control of the world.

That you would try and claim it when it's patently clear he isn't is delusional.

[Katman]

The only 'globalist' part of Trump is that he wants to do business with the world, but that is not the same as wanting to be in control of the world.

And anyone assuming that the globalist term 'One World Government' equates to America being "in control of the world" is ignoring the big fat Zionist elephant in the room.

[oldrider]

And anyone assuming that the globalist term 'One World Government' equates to America being "in control of the world" is ignoring the big fat Zionist elephant in the room.

Totally agree with and support that statement. - :niceone:

[Viking01]

http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO29Oct2019.php

No doubt it will be very extensively trialed within the US before being
released more widely around the world. Instead of their usual tests
"on the quiet" in India beforehand.

And that there will be suitable warnings on foods to advise consumers.

Best of all, it sounds very profitable. What's not to like?

What could possibly go wrong ?

[oldrider]

FYInformation only - make of it what you will? - :mellow: - or not!

-<iframe width="280" height="158" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/DIV39-KOzh0" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[mashman]

In the war on plastic is Coca-Cola friend or foe? (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50175594)...

What does a business do when a business knows that it is unsustainable and is highly likely to be unsustainable into the future, and knows it? The positive spin is a cute though... yes, we'll still producing 100+ billion pointless plastic bottles each year, but 40 billion of those will be used more than once, so all good yeah. Coca-cola serves no life purpose. The business should not exist.

[oldrider]

In the war on plastic is Coca-Cola friend or foe? (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50175594)...

What does a business do when a business knows that it is unsustainable and is highly likely to be unsustainable into the future, and knows it? The positive spin is a cute though... yes, we'll still producing 100+ billion pointless plastic bottles each year, but 40 billion of those will be used more than once, so all good yeah. Coca-cola serves no life purpose. The business should not exist.

That's just a bit too ideologically narrow - think of all the work and income that they produce while providing a product that according to your theory nobody wants?

It may not be "needed" but for something that is not needed it sure satisfies a major commercial demand.

There are people out there that espouse that the "human race should not exist" - now that will not benefit mankind much either will it? - :Oops:

[mashman]

That's just a bit too ideologically narrow - think of all the work and income that they produce while providing a product that according to your theory nobody wants?

Tsk tsk John. There's nothing ideological about the facts. It's fizzy flavoured water, and a personal fave I might add... however it is not a sustainable practice and has to go on those grounds alone. I Am more than aware of the economic ramifications of doing what needs to be done, coz if we don't try the sustainable thing, it is pretty much certain death. There is no ideology in that, just facts... put ideology down and try engaging brain, because that is all that is required.



It may not be "needed" but for something that is not needed it sure satisfies a major commercial demand.

And because it satisfies a major commercial demand it's ok to continue with that business? Like child trafficking for instance. There is a major demand for it, because it exists and keeps on existing, and all because it makes some people money whilst the "pervs" get their kicks. That is completely fucked logic!... albeit the current cultural ideological standpoint, because it completely ignores reality in favour of keeping things the way they are because "we" like them that way. I can only assume you were being sarcastic.



There are people out there that espouse that the "human race should not exist" - now that will not benefit mankind much either will it? - :Oops:

No it won't... neither will consuming our way through a finite planet and nearly 2 planets per year guarantee much of a future... but please feel free to ignore that inconvenient truth as some ideological standpoint that is entirely divorced from all evidence, logic, reason and common sense.

Tsk tsk.................. hardly surprising we go nowhere when we can dismiss the evidence because it's bad for business and no other reason. Stupid World at its very finest.

[Woodman]

In the war on plastic is Coca-Cola friend or foe? (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50175594)...

What does a business do when a business knows that it is unsustainable and is highly likely to be unsustainable into the future, and knows it? The positive spin is a cute though... yes, we'll still producing 100+ billion pointless plastic bottles each year, but 40 billion of those will be used more than once, so all good yeah. Coca-cola serves no life purpose. The business should not exist.

Somehow sustainability should be part of a constitution type agreement that all businesses have to adhere to. The likes of corps the size of Coca-Cola have too much clout with the politicians for just normal type regulations to be effective.

Oh and Trump needs shooting.

[onearmedbandit]

Like child trafficking for instance. There is a major demand for it, because it exists and keeps on existing, and all because it makes some people money whilst the "pervs" get their kicks. That is completely fucked logic!...



No comparing child trafficking to the sales of Coca Cola is fucked logic. And 'major demand'? Not where I live...

[mashman]

Somehow sustainability should be part of a constitution type agreement that all businesses have to adhere to. The likes of corps the size of Coca-Cola have too much clout with the politicians for just normal type regulations to be effective.

Oh and Trump needs shooting.

Businesses cannot survive the way we are going. The article and coca-cola themselves are highlighting the issues of sharing a limited resource pool to compete in the same market. There simply isn't the resource to maintain anywhere business as usual where sustainability becomes a part of anything. Even if coca-cola was split up into more competitive units to prevent political intereference, they'd still be producing the same amount of product and we'd still be unsustainable. It kind of needs to stop.


No comparing child trafficking to the sales of Coca Cola is fucked logic. And 'major demand'? Not where I live...

True, people are free to choose to drink coke from a plastic bottle and children that are trafficked are so against their will. In terms of commercial demand, the revenues are, depending on what you read, approximately the same with the child trafficking potentially being the bigger earner in the wider economy. Throw in the rest of the forced labour market and "forced" labour takes the win over coca-cola by a military mile in terms of (even if you add in canned coke and every other product that coca-cola makes), well everything apart from satisfying the thirst of a larger number of customers. But sure, go ahead and ignore that fact solely on the basis of the ... and thanks for proving that yet another KBer is incapable of rational thought or indeed the most basic of research. S'ok though, I'm a wanker, so just ignore the fact that tens of millions suffer at the hands of dirty little grubby bastards just coz I did the legwork and passed on the relevant information. You must live under a fuckin' rock eh mate.

[onearmedbandit]

But sure, go ahead and ignore that fact solely on the basis of the ... and thanks for proving that yet another KBer is incapable of rational thought or indeed the most basic of research. S'ok though, I'm a wanker, so just ignore the fact that tens of millions suffer at the hands of dirty little grubby bastards just coz I did the legwork and passed on the relevant information. You must live under a fuckin' rock eh mate.

Oh my god, listen to yourself. So full of ignorant assumption.

[mashman]

Oh my god, listen to yourself. So full of ignorant assumption.

I thought it a wee work of art to see if you still respond in the same ways. Ya see, you deride a certain thing, get shown otherwise, and then focus on the purposefully placed insult. Tis still an amusing thing to do to this day, but sad to see you all still fail... well, most of you. When given the option to play the man, you guys continue to choose to play the man. Yeah, it's a silly game to play, but it's far easier to find out where the "chat" is likely to go than continuing to play the, who can play the man better game. Oh, and go fuck yourself <3

[onearmedbandit]

I thought it a wee work of art to see if you still respond in the same ways. Ya see, you deride a certain thing, get shown otherwise, and then focus on the purposefully placed insult. Tis still an amusing thing to do to this day, but sad to see you all still fail... well, most of you. When given the option to play the man, you guys continue to choose to play the man. Yeah, it's a silly game to play, but it's far easier to find out where the "chat" is likely to go than continuing to play the, who can play the man better game. Oh, and go fuck yourself <3

Dude you are well and truly overthinking it.

[mashman]

Dude you are well and truly overthinking it.

And your mum loved next doors cat and that's why you have fur behind your ears. :yawn:

After the last decade+ on KB and given the bullshit that's been thrown my way, I've found that is it an exceptionally sound strategy when it comes to things as important as millions of kids are being bought and sold... coz not everyone knows the scale, or cares to know, some see it as a conspiracy that can never happen, and yet more seem to want to get angry at me for posting that truth. Meh.

And thanks again for telling me what I'm thinking and just that I am in to overthinking territory ;).

[onearmedbandit]

And your mum loved next doors cat and that's why you have fur behind your ears. :yawn:

After the last decade+ on KB and given the bullshit that's been thrown my way, I've found that is it an exceptionally sound strategy when it comes to things as important as millions of kids are being bought and sold... coz not everyone knows the scale, or cares to know, some see it as a conspiracy that can never happen, and yet more seem to want to get angry at me for posting that truth. Meh.

And thanks again for telling me what I'm thinking and just that I am in to overthinking territory ;).


I thought it a wee work of art to see if you still respond in the same ways. Ya see, you deride a certain thing, get shown otherwise, and then focus on the purposefully placed insult. Tis still an amusing thing to do to this day, but sad to see you all still fail... well, most of you. When given the option to play the man, you guys continue to choose to play the man. Yeah, it's a silly game to play, but it's far easier to find out where the "chat" is likely to go than continuing to play the, who can play the man better game. Oh, and go fuck yourself <3



Let me explain.

I have no interest in your argument or 'their' argument on this site, you'll never reach a consensus, middle ground will never be found. Ever. I only open threads like this one as a moderator to check in to see who has thrown their toys out of the cot. But on the odd occasion I come across something that in my opinion I think is downright idiotic. And you comparing the justification of purchasing a beverage to that of the transitivity of purchasing a minor was indeed just that. So I'm not even playing your game.

[mashman]

Let me explain.

I have no interest in your argument or 'their' argument on this site, you'll never reach a consensus, middle ground will never be found. Ever. I only open threads like this one as a moderator to check in to see who has thrown their toys out of the cot. But on the odd occasion I come across something that in my opinion I think is downright idiotic. And you comparing the justification of purchasing a beverage to that of the transitivity of purchasing a minor was indeed just that. So I'm not even playing your game.

Oh don't worry, I got it the moment you opened your virtual mouth. Amusing how people who repeatedly say never try to tear down the people who say can. Negative fucktards according to their own language.

[austingtir]

Has anyone got any cliffs on what mashman is dribbling on about?

(I cant read more than a sentence of his jibberish without nopeing out).

[mashman]

▪️No more subsidies for forestry. Plant them if the figures stack up.

▪️Invest in research and development for solutions for pollution and export those solutions to really impact the world



Satire at its finest. Aren't trees are the original solution for pollution? Still beating ye olde planned obsolescence drum eh. I thought that died a long time ago. Perhaps they should be called the newer conservatives... coz there ain't nothin' new about 'em... just as economically dogmatic as the rest and twice as stupid. Plant them if the figures stack up indeed :killingme

[austingtir]

Satire at its finest. Aren't trees are the original solution for pollution? Still beating ye olde planned obsolescence drum eh. I thought that died a long time ago. Perhaps they should be called the newer conservatives... coz there ain't nothin' new about 'em... just as economically dogmatic as the rest and twice as stupid. Plant them if the figures stack up indeed :killingme

So I see NZfirst chortelling about giving foresty 58million for I assume exactly that. I was in the forest industry for a while. Whats happening now is Russia is delivering shit tons of logs to China by RAIL!

Who do you think its cheaper for to supply China? Us or Russia who are practically right on their doorstep?

Most people dont realize the foresty industry has reached its peak. Its all downhill form here imo.


I dont see whats so funny about government policy based around good economic principles.

Whats the point in planting trees with a high chance that they will be worthless in 20 years time? And on top of that the move to plant flat arable land??

Not the smartest bunch this government.

Lets take some of the best productive volcanic soil on the planet and plant fucking trees on it.

Yeah brilliant.....

[mashman]

Economy:

1. the state of a country or region in terms of the production and consumption of goods and services and the supply of money.
"he favours tax cuts to stimulate the economy"

2. careful management of available resources.



I dont see whats so funny about government policy based around good economic principles.

Inefficiency by design is only a good economic principle because it selectively ignores the life utility of the trees. It is a waste of resources in every single way shape and form, by design, and therefore cannot be considered anything but completely retarded outwith living on a finite planet.

Planting a seed v's technology doing the same thing? Anything other than planting the seed is clearly the dominion of policy for the insane... and quite clearly the new conservatives are insane as they are ignoring the finite planet like every single financial ideology that came before them. Tis beautiful satire though.

[TheDemonLord]

they are ignoring the finite planet like every single financial ideology that came before them. Tis beautiful satire though.

Because all of the Marxist inspired Financial Ideologies worked out so well.

[Woodman]

Why we need a few environmental dictators.

[TheDemonLord]

Why we need a few environmental dictators.

Sure.

Put yourself first up against the Wall for Torture and Execution, then we'll see if you are still keen.

[Woodman]

Sure.

Put yourself first up against the Wall for Torture and Execution, then we'll see if you are still keen.

Again, stop trying to be clever, you are not pulling it off very well.

[austingtir]

Again, stop trying to be clever, you are not pulling it off very well.

And your not pulling it off at all.

Spouting basically communist idealogy all over the shop on here and expect not to be called out about it? Dream on.

[Woodman]

And your not pulling it off at all.

Spouting basically communist idealogy all over the shop on here and expect not to be called out about it? Dream on.

Haven't ever claimed to be clever, just a different level of stupid.

Lol at communist.

[mashman]

Why we need a few environmental dictators.

The appropriate education and there'd be 7.6 billion dictators. Alas, too many teachers that read stuff in a book once.

[austingtir]

Speaking of dictators...

Is this Aucklands future?


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-19/fake-chinese-police-cars-spotted-in-adelaide-and-perth/11426850


Honestly the cheek of these fuckers!!!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/11428272-3x2-700x467.jpg

[mashman]

Is see that Q is back. WWG1WGA. Quite the globalist mantra. Isn't Trump a supporter?

[TheDemonLord]

Again, stop trying to be clever, you are not pulling it off very well.

What's the matter? The inconvenient facts of history a bit too risque for you?

If you want a Dictatorship, just be prepared to accept ALL that comes along with, especially all that happens to the first wave of 'revolutionaries'.

I'll even give you a hint: It ended badly for them.

[Woodman]

What's the matter? The inconvenient facts of history a bit too risque for you?

If you want a Dictatorship, just be prepared to accept ALL that comes along with, especially all that happens to the first wave of 'revolutionaries'.

I'll even give you a hint: It ended badly for them.

Some people are aware that it is not all about them.

[TheDemonLord]

Some people are aware that it is not all about them.

Indeed.

That's part of the logic that all the greatest Genocidal Murderers used to justify their acts of wanton cruelty.

But I'll make you a deal, if you want me to stop being all about me, then by all means, stop being all about you: Donate all that you own, work for no pay for the benefit of others, reduce your entire environmental impact to zero.

Do all of that, and I might consider what you say.

Of course, to do that would mean not being on the Internet, so....

[Woodman]

Indeed.

That's part of the logic that all the greatest Genocidal Murderers used to justify their acts of wanton cruelty.

But I'll make you a deal, if you want me to stop being all about me, then by all means, stop being all about you: Donate all that you own, work for no pay for the benefit of others, reduce your entire environmental impact to zero.

Do all of that, and I might consider what you say.

Of course, to do that would mean not being on the Internet, so....

I will if you do absolutely everything you can to destroy the environment, because that Is what your argument suggests.

[austingtir]

I will if you do absolutely everything you can to destroy the environment, because that Is what your argument suggests.

Now your just being hysterical.


He was just saying put your money where your mouth is and he is correct in stating you would not be on this motocycle forum at all if you really believed in what you say.


Its funny how those preaching to us about saving the enviroment are the ones flying everywhere on jet planes that they could of just had a teleconference to exchange their stupid ideas......

Its also funny how all cults act exactly the same. Do as I say not as I do.

You should be exchanging ideas with Brian Tamaki.....

[TheDemonLord]

I will if you do absolutely everything you can to destroy the environment, because that Is what your argument suggests.

No, it does not.

Because if you remember I asked you at what point does Environmentalism stop - you couldn't answer.

Whereas if you were to ask me the inverse question, I'm quite happy to put a large number of safeguards in place.

[mashman]

He was just saying put your money where your mouth is and he is correct in stating you would not be on this motocycle forum at all if you really believed in what you say.


He is putting his money where his mouth is you fucking idiot. That you do not understand this is evident. Does he want the internet or motorcycles not to exist? I highly doubt it. Would he like access to both if they both exist? Probably. Is it feasible to keep the internet and motorcycles where we address Earth Overshoot appropriately? Yes, absolutely.

That you continue to tell him what his position is despite him not having stated much along those lines shows just how fucktarded you are :killingme. It's even more moronic to think that the internet and motorcycles have to go where in reality stopping the producing of shite will more than make up for the entertainment and sanity that such things provide.

So fucko, are you able to understand the position of another. or is it troll ram 4ev's. Notice the lack of question marks, coz I already know....... ironic eh.

[TheDemonLord]

He is putting his money where his mouth is you fucking idiot. That you do not understand this is evident. Does he want the internet or motorcycles not to exist? I highly doubt it. Would he like access to both if they both exist? Probably. Is it feasible to keep the internet and motorcycles where we address Earth Overshoot appropriately? Yes, absolutely.

Actually, no.

A Motorcycle is a Consumer product (you know, the ones you rant and rave against) and so is diametrically opposed to his viewpoint.

As for the Internet.

Requires Servers and Power and stuff.

Power that requires non-renewable energy to power them because renewable energy isn't reliable enough.

Even if it was reliable enough, the same group would complain it's damaging to the Environment to have Wind-Turbines, Solar Arrays, etc.

[austingtir]

He is putting his money where his mouth is you fucking idiot. That you do not understand this is evident. Does he want the internet or motorcycles not to exist? I highly doubt it. Would he like access to both if they both exist? Probably. Is it feasible to keep the internet and motorcycles where we address Earth Overshoot appropriately? Yes, absolutely.

That you continue to tell him what his position is despite him not having stated much along those lines shows just how fucktarded you are :killingme. It's even more moronic to think that the internet and motorcycles have to go where in reality stopping the producing of shite will more than make up for the entertainment and sanity that such things provide.

So fucko, are you able to understand the position of another. or is it troll ram 4ev's. Notice the lack of question marks, coz I already know....... ironic eh.


No you are just so dumb that you think you or your kids will be driving around in electric porsches 100 years from now.

When the reality is you or your kids will be in the gulags or driving electric lada's on the implementation of green policies. (and thats actually the best case scanario). The fact is none of this stuff will exist because the greenies will not be able to get all this tech they claim is going to save us all to work properly or as efficiently as they claim it will never mind saving the enviroment because all the batteries produced today and in the future will require lithium or similar which is far worse on your precious enviroment than carbon based forms of transport and power.

And on top of that greenies will never admit that nuclear power (properly implemented) is the only way to solve all these problems (short of culling over half of the worlds population) so they are doomed to fail.

[mashman]

No you are just so dumb that you think you or your kids will be driving around in electric porsches 100 years from now.

No I don't think any of those things at all... so it was pointless reading anything else you posted, coz the foundation is clearly delusional. Lame troll is lame troll. You thought going for the family would work? Really? You truly are a dumb fuck :killingme...

[oldrider]

Food for thought? - :mellow:

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[Woodman]

No, it does not.

Because if you remember I asked you at what point does Environmentalism stop - you couldn't answer.

Whereas if you were to ask me the inverse question, I'm quite happy to put a large number of safeguards in place.

Neither you or me are at either end of environmentalism, rather we are both somewhere in the middle (approx), but you expect me to live like a wild animal because I put forward views on how to make the environment better, inferring that because you don't express the same views then you should be actively destroying it. You can't have it both ways, your view is just as hypocritical as mine.

[Woodman]

Now your just being hysterical.


He was just saying put your money where your mouth is and he is correct in stating you would not be on this motocycle forum at all if you really believed in what you say.


Its funny how those preaching to us about saving the enviroment are the ones flying everywhere on jet planes that they could of just had a teleconference to exchange their stupid ideas......

Its also funny how all cults act exactly the same. Do as I say not as I do.

You should be exchanging ideas with Brian Tamaki.....

Fucking idiot......

[Laava]

Food for thought? - https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/images/smilies/mellow.gif

She said it herself, "why must I reap what my grandfather sowed?"
That is the ongoing repercussions of invading and colonising another culture.

[mashman]

Deafening silence

Here, learn something. It comes with numbers and everything. Most notable of which is: "82% of total world energy demand is NOT electricity production." (https://lokisrevengeblog.wordpress.com/2016/01/24/no-soil-water-before-100-renwable-energy/).

[TheDemonLord]

Neither you or me are at either end of environmentalism, rather we are both somewhere in the middle (approx), but you expect me to live like a wild animal because I put forward views on how to make the environment better, inferring that because you don't express the same views then you should be actively destroying it. You can't have it both ways, your view is just as hypocritical as mine.

It's not that you put forward views to make the Environment better.

It's two-fold:

Firstly that you seem fine with trampling on the rights of others in order to make it better - which is why I continually challenge you to have your rights trampled at the behest of someone else.

Secondly that you cannot place a limit on how far it should go - which is why I continually challenge you to live like a Wild Animal.

If you want to criticise Consumerism in the manner that you do, then you must accept that things you like to own (like Motorbikes) are equally as luxurious and unnecessary extravagances as whatever it is you critique.

Add in for bonus points that every system that is based upon the talking points you espoused devolved into the hellscapes that I critique you on.

So, I'll ask you again: What is the limit to Environmentalism? When is it enough?

As for your final retort - the problem you have there is that I've expressed numerous views in support of various things that could be considered 'Green', the difference is that I like my environmentalism to be pragmatic approaches to solvable problems, as opposed to hysterical predictions to browbeat others into submission.

[Woodman]

It's not that you put forward views to make the Environment better.

It's two-fold:

Firstly that you seem fine with trampling on the rights of others in order to make it better - which is why I continually challenge you to have your rights trampled at the behest of someone else.

Secondly that you cannot place a limit on how far it should go - which is why I continually challenge you to live like a Wild Animal.

If you want to criticise Consumerism in the manner that you do, then you must accept that things you like to own (like Motorbikes) are equally as luxurious and unnecessary extravagances as whatever it is you critique.

Add in for bonus points that every system that is based upon the talking points you espoused devolved into the hellscapes that I critique you on.

So, I'll ask you again: What is the limit to Environmentalism? When is it enough?

As for your final retort - the problem you have there is that I've expressed numerous views in support of various things that could be considered 'Green', the difference is that I like my environmentalism to be pragmatic approaches to solvable problems, as opposed to hysterical predictions to browbeat others into submission.

You do realise that the environment is where we all live? What's wrong g with looking after it?

[TheDemonLord]

You do realise that the environment is where we all live? What's wrong g with looking after it?

Interesting that you still refuse to set a limitation on it.

Let me try another way: Your very existence has an impact on the environment. You change it, interact with it, destroy it etc.

Thus, you cannot exist without harming the Environment in some way.

Following on from that, we can have the discussion as to whether any harm is permanent to the environment, what is an acceptable amount of impact and over what time period - but this is what you refuse to do.

Hence why I ridicule your statements by taking them to their extremes, because you don't, or more specifically refuse to, define a limit.

But, by all means - I'll still hear you if you want to reconsider and actually put in some limits. Then we can discuss those, the merits of them and perhaps most interestingly, what some of the unintended consequences may be of those ideas.

[Woodman]

Interesting that you still refuse to set a limitation on it.

Let me try another way: Your very existence has an impact on the environment. You change it, interact with it, destroy it etc.

Thus, you cannot exist without harming the Environment in some way.

Following on from that, we can have the discussion as to whether any harm is permanent to the environment, what is an acceptable amount of impact and over what time period - but this is what you refuse to do.

Hence why I ridicule your statements by taking them to their extremes, because you don't, or more specifically refuse to, define a limit.

But, by all means - I'll still hear you if you want to reconsider and actually put in some limits. Then we can discuss those, the merits of them and perhaps most interestingly, what some of the unintended consequences may be of those ideas.

I thought about windi g you up, but then thought about this limit thing, and it has merit, but the answer is that I have no idea. The zero carbon by 2050 by NZ is not enough, in fact nobody is doing enough. Our lifestyle is doomed. Possibly human race is heading for extinction? Not particularly bothered to be fair.

[TheDemonLord]

I thought about windi g you up, but then thought about this limit thing, and it has merit, but the answer is that I have no idea.

That's my problem with the Green advocacy. Even if I agree there's a Merit to your idea, you've not thought it through to any conclusion.


The zero carbon by 2050 by NZ is not enough, in fact nobody is doing enough. Our lifestyle is doomed. Possibly human race is heading for extinction? Not particularly bothered to be fair.

..."Not enough"...
..."Never enough"...
..."Not doing enough"...

Do you see what I might be very concerned and very vigilant of there not being a limit?

I don't think our Lifestyle is doomed, there's been naysayers at every point in Human History, I see the current crop of Climate Crisis cretins as a continuation of this Capitulation (heh.).

But if it is, and we are heading for extinction, and you aren't particularly bothered - why are you disagreeing with me when I made the above suggestions to you?

[oldrider]

You do realise that the environment is where we all live? What's wrong g with looking after it?

Very true that!. :hitcher:

Well "they" could start by stopping their silly wars that destroy everything and everyone all around the world for no valid reason other than balancing international banking! - :weird:

[mashman]

I thought about windi g you up, but then thought about this limit thing, and it has merit, but the answer is that I have no idea. The zero carbon by 2050 by NZ is not enough, in fact nobody is doing enough. Our lifestyle is doomed. Possibly human race is heading for extinction? Not particularly bothered to be fair.

The limits have been set and they have all been smashed through. Kate Raworths stuff proves that beyond the shadow of a doubt. Earth Overshoot is that which should be setting the limits i.e. the data sets the limits. Jeremy Rifkins work also acknowledges this, as well as seeing what comes next as the forerunner to the sharing economy, where Zero Marginal Cost all but renders money moot. The limits are known and have been empirically defined by more than enough people. Earth Overshoot has set the global environmental limit. Collectively we use 0.7 times more than we can reproduce in the same timeframe as we use it. Carbon 2050 isn't enough I agree, otherwise Kyoto would have worked or at the very least led to some form of stability. We are facing extinction, along with everything else on this planet. The interruption of maintenance/supply chains to any of the 450+ active nuclear reactors says so, with a hat tip to an unknown number of research reactors etc... The potential sources of interruption include social or economic collapse. Climate change is certainly up there in terms of the threat to food/water, which is important for people in the support supply chains. Wouldn't wanna run out of diesel in yer cooling towers machinery eh. And so on. All of these things are known and confirmed as more than plausible whether we fuck it up ourselves or nature does it for us and we simply weren't prepared for it.

Our lifestyle isn't doomed though. Where we cut out the shit that serves no life purpose so we're gonna be pretty close to having the lifestyle we currently have... better were you consider that bullshit jobs will be gone (massive energy saving alone), as people will be available to do something that A) isn't contributing to the waste of resource i.e. traveling to a job that serves no purpose
Your) will see them more likely to work closer to home and within their community than their current job is i.e. available to rebuild the village where the village is.

Who dictates what who should be doing and what they should be consuming? The individual does. If we are not able to be responsible enough to do what is necessary to address Earth Overshoot, then nothing else matters coz it is bye bye. Where we address Earth Overshoot shoot, so there will be no such thing as employer and employee, and people will outnumber jobs 1000:1. All you need is 1 in 1000 to do any given job for 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, and all important functions will continue, as well as having more than enough cover. As such, where you have 2 in 1000 who are willing to learn what it takes to do any given job(s), so you have a human who works half as much. Where there are 7 people, so they can work 1 day each. And so on... People are going to outnumber jobs... it's almost as if it's possible to have more teachers and doctors and emergency services etc... lol

[austingtir]

^^

https://static.businessinsider.com/image/548076d06da8111e5b7a8c96/image.gif

[TheDemonLord]

The limits have been set and they have all been smashed through. Kate Raworths stuff proves that beyond the shadow of a doubt. Earth Overshoot is that which should be setting the limits i.e. the data sets the limits. Jeremy Rifkins work also acknowledges this, as well as seeing what comes next as the forerunner to the sharing economy, where Zero Marginal Cost all but renders money moot. The limits are known and have been empirically defined by more than enough people. Earth Overshoot has set the global environmental limit. Collectively we use 0.7 times more than we can reproduce in the same timeframe as we use it. Carbon 2050 isn't enough I agree, otherwise Kyoto would have worked or at the very least led to some form of stability. We are facing extinction, along with everything else on this planet. The interruption of maintenance/supply chains to any of the 450+ active nuclear reactors says so, with a hat tip to an unknown number of research reactors etc... The potential sources of interruption include social or economic collapse. Climate change is certainly up there in terms of the threat to food/water, which is important for people in the support supply chains. Wouldn't wanna run out of diesel in yer cooling towers machinery eh. And so on. All of these things are known and confirmed as more than plausible whether we fuck it up ourselves or nature does it for us and we simply weren't prepared for it.

Our lifestyle isn't doomed though. Where we cut out the shit that serves no life purpose so we're gonna be pretty close to having the lifestyle we currently have... better were you consider that bullshit jobs will be gone (massive energy saving alone), as people will be available to do something that A) isn't contributing to the waste of resource i.e. traveling to a job that serves no purpose
Your) will see them more likely to work closer to home and within their community than their current job is i.e. available to rebuild the village where the village is.

Who dictates what who should be doing and what they should be consuming? The individual does. If we are not able to be responsible enough to do what is necessary to address Earth Overshoot, then nothing else matters coz it is bye bye. Where we address Earth Overshoot shoot, so there will be no such thing as employer and employee, and people will outnumber jobs 1000:1. All you need is 1 in 1000 to do any given job for 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, and all important functions will continue, as well as having more than enough cover. As such, where you have 2 in 1000 who are willing to learn what it takes to do any given job(s), so you have a human who works half as much. Where there are 7 people, so they can work 1 day each. And so on... People are going to outnumber jobs... it's almost as if it's possible to have more teachers and doctors and emergency services etc... lol

And of course, you're the one that will usher in this Utopia.

Just like Stalin did.
Or Mao.
Or Pol Pot.
Or the Kims.

Not to mention the internal contradictions, suspect individuals and historical record of the predictions made by certain people.

[Woodman]

That's my problem with the Green advocacy. Even if I agree there's a Merit to your idea, you've not thought it through to any conclusion.



..."Not enough"...
..."Never enough"...
..."Not doing enough"...

Do you see what I might be very concerned and very vigilant of there not being a limit?

I don't think our Lifestyle is doomed, there's been naysayers at every point in Human History, I see the current crop of Climate Crisis cretins as a continuation of this Capitulation (heh.).

But if it is, and we are heading for extinction, and you aren't particularly bothered - why are you disagreeing with me when I made the above suggestions to you?
If it's too hard, don't bother.. I hope I am wrong, but don't think so. Arguing round in circles will be our biggest fuck up.

[TheDemonLord]

If it's too hard, don't bother.. I hope I am wrong, but don't think so. Arguing round in circles will be our biggest fuck up.

It's not that it's too hard, it's just that you have to accept some damage to the Environment and for the average Environmentalist type person that is unacceptable. Hence my critique.

I'd be more than happy to place some limits, but then, I'm not the one saying that it's never enough.

Well take solace in this - the last 100 years of long-term Climate predictions have been hopelessly wrong.

And we've been arguing around in Circles since Ancient Greece - haven't done too badly... I hear the Internet is pretty cool...

[Woodman]

And we've been arguing around in Circles since Ancient Greece - haven't done too badly......

We've done pretty shit actually.

[TheDemonLord]

We've done pretty shit actually.

By what Metric?

We've eradicated Small Pox in the wild - that was the cause of Death of some 500 Million people in the 20th Century.
We've double the life expectancy in the west in the last 100 years.
We are (thanks entirely to Capitalism) lifting more people out of absolute poverty by almost double the best estimate of the UN.

I could go on.

This is not to say we've not done some pretty shitty things too, because there have been heaps of those.

[Woodman]

By what Metric?

We've eradicated Small Pox in the wild - that was the cause of Death of some 500 Million people in the 20th Century.
We've double the life expectancy in the west in the last 100 years.
We are (thanks entirely to Capitalism) lifting more people out of absolute poverty by almost double the best estimate of the UN.

I could go on.

This is not to say we've not done some pretty shitty things too, because there have been heaps of those.

We have basically destroyed ourselves and pretty much every other species and ecosystem in a short period of time. Humans think we are so clever because we can make shit, whereas in actual fact our intelligence and superiority complex renders us the stupidest life form ever to inhabit this planet.

[TheDemonLord]

We have basically destroyed ourselves and pretty much every other species and ecosystem in a short period of time.

Even if I were to agree with that premise (I don't) this is no better than every other species that has been wiped out by Nature itself, in fact, Nature's track record of Eradicating species is far greater than ours. But if you are right, Life will go on, something will come along after us, so your point of 'Destroyed' is wrong.


Humans think we are so clever because we can make shit, whereas in actual fact our intelligence and superiority complex renders us the stupidest life form ever to inhabit this planet.

Yet, we are the only life form that has the potential to avert a Mass Extinction event.

So, based on your own Logic, we clearly ARE the cleverest.

But as I said, if you hate your own existence that much, feel free to loosen yourself from it.

[Woodman]

Even if I were to agree with that premise (I don't) this is no better than every other species that has been wiped out by Nature itself, in fact, Nature's track record of Eradicating species is far greater than ours. But if you are right, Life will go on, something will come along after us, so your point of 'Destroyed' is wrong.



Yet, we are the only life form that has the potential to avert a Mass Extinction event.

So, based on your own Logic, we clearly ARE the cleverest.

But as I said, if you hate your own existence that much, feel free to loosen yourself from it.

Case in point.

[austingtir]

Punked!


https://youtu.be/cVh2HRuE83k

[TheDemonLord]

Case in point.

Whilst I admit a degree of Hubris.

Your Climate change mantra insists on a number of actions, for which the following must be true:

1: That by changing our actions, we can reverse the negative impact
2: That we are able to change our actions based on a hypothetical future

If both of those are true, then we clearly are the Cleverest species on the Planet, however if you want to claim we aren't the cleverest, then by all means forgo your Climate Change Activism, since if we are so stupid, we clearly can't enact change on a Global Scale.

Catch-22.

[Woodman]

Whilst I admit a degree of Hubris.

Your Climate change mantra insists on a number of actions, for which the following must be true:

1: That by changing our actions, we can reverse the negative impact
2: That we are able to change our actions based on a hypothetical future

If both of those are true, then we clearly are the Cleverest species on the Planet, however if you want to claim we aren't the cleverest, then by all means forgo your Climate Change Activism, since if we are so stupid, we clearly can't enact change on a Global Scale.

Catch-22.

Good that you admit it, well done, but I stand by what I say, we are the only ones who think our intelligence makes us superior. A horse is much better at being a horse than you are, in fact if you went to horse school you would be in the special classes. So in horse terms, if a horse gave a fuck, your human measure of intelligence is irrelevant.

[husaberg]

Good that you admit it, well done, but I stand by what I say, we are the only ones who think our intelligence makes us superior. A horse is much better at being a horse than you are, in fact if you went to horse school you would be in the special classes. So in horse terms, if a horse gave a fuck, your human measure of intelligence is irrelevant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hDy4Hhuso

[TheDemonLord]

Good that you admit it, well done, but I stand by what I say, we are the only ones who think our intelligence makes us superior. A horse is much better at being a horse than you are, in fact if you went to horse school you would be in the special classes. So in horse terms, if a horse gave a fuck, your human measure of intelligence is irrelevant.

Except for one teensy tiny detail.

I can make a horse do what I want it to do. Not the other way round.

So, in your imaginary Horse school, I saddle up the best horse in the class and Viola - I'm top of the class now.

[mashman]

Sustainable New Zealand..................party

[Viking01]

Except for one teensy tiny detail.

I can make a horse do what I want it to do. Not the other way round.

So, in your imaginary Horse school, I saddle up the best horse in the class and Viola - I'm top of the class now.

If you think that, then you obviously haven't ridden many horses.

The only thing it means is that you're sitting on top of the horse. For now.

[austingtir]

If you think that, then you obviously haven't ridden many horses.

The only thing it means is that you're sitting on top of the horse. For now.


Still beats being donkey kicked in the face by the horse like mashman/woodman.

[TheDemonLord]

If you think that, then you obviously haven't ridden many horses.

The only thing it means is that you're sitting on top of the horse. For now.

At the very least, I'm pretty sure the Horse doesn't want my fatass sitting on it's back, and yet - there I am.

[Woodman]

Except for one teensy tiny detail.

I can make a horse do what I want it to do. Not the other way round.

So, in your imaginary Horse school, I saddle up the best horse in the class and Viola - I'm top of the class now.

As a horse you are still a retard.

[TheDemonLord]

As a horse you are still a retard.

I'd rather be retarded as a Horse, Than retarded as a Human ;)

[Woodman]

I'd rather be retarded as a Horse, Than retarded as a Human ;)

You can only wish...

[mashman]

Still beats being donkey kicked in the face by the horse like mashman/woodman.

Then stop posting such facile shit that you can't back up in any way shape or form. In lieu of the fucktardery that you use to back up your position i.e. having nothing in the form of evidence to assert that your point is anything other than wishful thinking in light of the facts, I do appreciate your meme's.

Stop looking at me offering you information as receiving a kick in the face then. It isn't that tricky. Up your game. Bring the reign. Let's see what ya have... no, hang on, I'll answer for you first


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVcSIZyBuE

[austingtir]

This was supposed to be a parody I guess....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=178&v=T4VuR_jN1JI&feature=emb_logo

[mashman]

Australia and others ask for Brexit trade compensation (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50419130)... fuckin' loons

[austingtir]

The actually banned this in the EU? WTF is this world coming to??

Watch it before its gone (full episode).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2nKbHWmlPc


And we havent seen a journalist in NZ owned like this since Southern and Molyneux pulled Gowers Y fronts over his head.

Its also amusing to watch the trans and feminist movements eat each other alive (mainly due to the tranny sides rampant mental illness).

Meghan Murphy interview on newshub nation....
https://www.facebook.com/NewshubNationNZ/videos/803012933474754/

[mashman]

Could this happen again?

So, is this all in the past, or could something like this happen again?

“There is the possibility,” Claire Matthews says. “Institutional knowledge disappears, so people don’t remember what happened before or they think it’s not going to happen this time. It’s human nature.” (https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/11/18/908994/how-banks-peddled-a-product-that-killed-farmers)

... and doesn't it show... repeatedly... Some day humans will be allowed to be seen as more precious than money.

[oldrider]

There always has to be a bigger better weapon to "keep us safe"? - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-deceased-scientists-mystery-blast-were-developing-unparalleled-weapon - :mellow:

[Laava]

There always has to be a bigger better weapon to "keep us safe"? - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-deceased-scientists-mystery-blast-were-developing-unparalleled-weapon - :mellow:

I can't help thinking that the world might be a better place if these regimes with these massive weapons of overkill should actually engage and use them up...

[husaberg]

There always has to be a bigger better weapon to "keep us safe"? - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-deceased-scientists-mystery-blast-were-developing-unparalleled-weapon - :mellow:

The Russians are a bit slow on them, The yanks first made them in 1961:whistle:
The yank versions were called plutos. that's nearly 60 years ago. SO its hardly cutting edge stuff now is it.
They are very dangerous tech though as you are using the air flowing through the engine to cool the nuclear reactor rather than massive lakes of water water and massive cooling towers and reactors encased in huge amounts of concrete.
they are basically a giant ramjet like a V1 i can imagine they would also make a similar sound only had a much higher frequency probably 4-6 times or more higher.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1qsBGTkVSk

SOund something more like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0KJwa5iWTY

[mashman]

There always has to be a bigger better weapon to "keep us safe"? - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-deceased-scientists-mystery-blast-were-developing-unparalleled-weapon - :mellow:

Indeed there does (https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29232/navys-advanced-aerospace-tech-boss-claims-key-ufo-patent-is-operable)

[austingtir]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdftbYqA_VQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1E_rGRAV6BZy7etHo_NZBbMIErxr_cyVmjPNqOS hohB8Hd5HHEWac9Kuo

[austingtir]

Very interesting viewpoints on 5g and very much on the money imo. (no its not the scramble your brain conspiracy theories).


https://youtu.be/e2R9RDL4yck

[Viking01]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/404275/crown-may-foot-155m-bill-to-decommission-taranaki-oil-field

[austingtir]

No wonder there is so many self proclaimed atheists and anti christians in here:shifty::


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=Ayxj5YoIyQA&feature=emb_logo


This is the first time iv seen someone put actual evidence forward for why the powers that be are so crazy about everyone take vacs.

[Mr. Peanut]

I hope you guys have taken an extra dose of Super Male Vitality

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.thedailybeast.com%2Fimage%2Fu pload%2Fc_crop%2Cd_placeholder_euli9k%2Ch_1440%2Cw _2560%2Cx_0%2Cy_0%2Fdpr_2.0%2Fc_limit%2Cw_740%2Ffl _lossy%2Cq_auto%2Fv1506972869%2F171002-Grove-Alex-Jones-hero_nmtqz7&f=1&nofb=1

[scumdog]

I can't help thinking that the world might be a better place if these regimes with these massive weapons of overkill should actually engage and use them up...

To hell with collateral damage eh!

[Laava]

To hell with collateral damage eh!
Yeah! Now people are starting to catch on!

[austingtir]

Yeah! Now people are starting to catch on!

Why would they waste expensive nukes on us peasants when they can just import the third world and get them to stab us all to death?


"part and parcel of living in a big city"


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2019/nov/29/london-bridge-incident-police-city

[oldrider]

As close as close can be? - :facepalm: - https://twitter.com/thehumanxp/status/1200444353900089344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - :yes: - Did ya notice the little hesitation prior to stepping over the last rail? - cool as! :cool:

[austingtir]

Has anyone seen any explanation for this during the knife attack on london bridge?

Just seems weird....

https://www.bitchute.com/video/GGMfZZT0ioXD/

[oldrider]

Watch the shot guy?

<iframe width="827" height="620" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/dh6UP7kbWNM" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[austingtir]

This is probably the most ironic thing I have ever seen:


https://i.imgur.com/MpLmYna.png

[mashman]

Auckland bus strike: 100 drivers suspended with no pay until Christmas Eve (https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/118023864/auckland-bus-strike-100-drivers-suspended-with-no-pay-until-christmas-eve)

Capitalism... it really can't be much more stupid. Quick, create more money or take it from a few groups who can't shout as loud and give it to the people driving the buses so they'll go back to work... you know, automate accounting or something. No, actually I've changed my mind. Suspend the drivers and let them feel what it's like to be hit in the pocket eh eh eh... the government will likely provide relief for the business owners who are being rained on., just like they do the farmers, so we can't lose. No, hang on a sec, I've changed my mind again, I reckon we should sell this mess to the NZ government when they bail it out, coz it's gonna happen more and more often, and they won;t keep giving us money. The left are in, we might get a decent price :killingme.........

The people are there, the buses are there, there are people who need buses and what happens? An outbreak of capitalism. Stupid world at its finest.