Stupid World

[R650R]

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CAPITALISM Gods way of determining who is 'smart' and can afford $250K to be imploded to mush, at the front of the Titanic!

I’d say socialism acceptance of unchecked migration has drowned more boat people fleeing commie dictatorships by orders of magnitude…

[husaberg]

I’d say socialism acceptance of unchecked migration has drowned more boat people fleeing commie dictatorships by orders of magnitude…
You say a lot that is proven to be incorrect
Like how you miss the owner of said boat was maximising their returns by overloading it.
Or how the boat people attempt to illegally migrate were to escape from economic hardship because legal means are reserved for the more wealthy....

[onearmedbandit]

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How is this even a debate?

[husaberg]

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How is this even a debate?

Because of people like Caster Semenya where it isn't so clear cut.
Ted Cruze is just grandstanding.

[onearmedbandit]

Because of people like Caster Semenya where it isn't so clear cut.
Ted Cruze is just grandstanding.

I don't care about Ted Cruze, he is just grandstanding as you say, as I feel most politicians do. Caster is an outlier, not really representative of the argument at hand in my opinion.

[TheDemonLord]

How is this even a debate?

Where would you like to begin?

There's two schools of thought to blame - one is Gender ideology (from Marxism) and the other is Radical Feminism (also...).

From the Rad Fem side the argument goes something like this: If there are biological differences between Men and Women, then that can be used as justification for different treatment. Therefore, if we want our utopian equitable vision, there must be no differences between the sexes. Then you bend reality to fit your ideal.

That's why we have the chant 'Trans Women are Women'.

From Gender ideology, you get the abstraction of Gender from Sex (which you can make an argument for) and then once you've abstracted it, you get to ignore all the biological factors that inform gender.

I'm opposed to Gender ideology being taught to kids - however, when it comes to adults - seeing Women being most affected by the ideology that they championed and helped create is proof that Karma has one hell of a sense of humour.

Seeing those same feminists who told us at length that 'They don't need no Man' - asking for men to help them because of biological men invading their spaces - it is glorious to be on the sidelines.

[R650R]

A lot of commenters are saying why does pride get a whole month but veterans only get one day of remembrance….

This long time ford owner is pissed and says what everyone is thinking of all this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgzYzGSTUv4&pp=ygUUY29sdW1iaWEgd2FyIG1hY2hpbmU%3D

[pritch]

There’s outcry about the usual bad taste jokes coming out but what’s worst is a lot of feminists and socialists going on about the money spent trying to save five rich men. What has humanity come to….



The reaction of some people surprised me initially. There had recently been a ship with 500 migrants go down in the Mediterranean though, the rescue effort(?) was in marked contrast to the effort in the Atlantic.

[pritch]

A lot of commenters are saying why does pride get a whole month but veterans only get one day of remembrance….


Those commenters are misinformed rednecks. Every year the whole month of May is Military Appreciation Month in the USA.

[TheDemonLord]

The reaction of some people surprised me initially. There had recently been a ship with 500 migrants go down in the Mediterranean though, the rescue effort(?) was in marked contrast to the effort in the Atlantic.

Almost like one was doing something legal and the other was trying to do something illegal.

[TheDemonLord]

Those commenters are misinformed rednecks. Every year the whole month of May is Military Appreciation Month in the USA.

If you can point me to all multinational the corporations that changed their social media profile pictures, hung flags etc.
If you can point me to the local councils that had Military Vet Story hour for Children at the local Library and a Military parade etc.
If you can point me to the NZ Government buildings that hung the Military appreciate flag for the month of May etc.

Then - I will accept the point.

But I've got $5 that says you can't

[R650R]

If you can point me to all multinational the corporations that changed their social media profile pictures, hung flags etc.
If you can point me to the local councils that had Military Vet Story hour for Children at the local Library and a Military parade etc.
If you can point me to the NZ Government buildings that hung the Military appreciate flag for the month of May etc.

Then - I will accept the point.

But I've got $5 that says you can't

And can we have a police car with camo paint job instead of rainbow.
And one year can the pink shirt anti bully day have big camo stripe cause our militaries go after the worst bullies in the world.
Jesus could you imagine the outcry if a bunch of vets turn up to school hand out toy guns and teach the kids what helps keep democracy alive in the world.
Will whittakers bring out a war ration chocolate bar?

Btw I’ve yet to hear of any trans freedom fighters dying in Ukraine????

[TheDemonLord]

And can we have a police car with camo paint job instead of rainbow.
And one year can the pink shirt anti bully day have big camo stripe cause our militaries go after the worst bullies in the world.
Jesus could you imagine the outcry if a bunch of vets turn up to school hand out toy guns and teach the kids what helps keep democracy alive in the world.
Will whittakers bring out a war ration chocolate bar?

At this point, I'd rather that than Pride TBH.

Although - I could live with both in moderation.


Btw I’ve yet to hear of any trans freedom fighters dying in Ukraine????

I have heard of the opposite though... Several Trans-Women fleeing from the fighting and several Trans-Men suddenly remembering they are Women afterall...

[sugilite]

:yawn: - OH MY GOD THE COMMIE TRANS ARE COMING FOR OUR CHILDREN. Yes rightwingers be scared, be afraid be very afraid, be sooooooooo fucking afraid. I bet that queue is out the school library door for those trannie books and every person who sees a trans reading a book at story time races off to sign up for team commie! RUN FOR YOUR VERY LIVES!

Oh yeah, the Irony goes WOOOSH!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm08CkYoL2U

I'll let you two go back to quivering under your blankets and crying with anquish at the commie trans invasion now. ;)

[TheDemonLord]

:yawn: - OH MY GOD THE COMMIE TRANS ARE COMING FOR OUR CHILDREN. Yes rightwingers be scared, be afraid be very afraid, be sooooooooo fucking afraid. I bet that queue is out the school library door for those trannie books and every person who sees a trans reading a book at story time races off to sign up for team commie! RUN FOR YOUR VERY LIVES!

Oh yeah, the Irony goes WOOOSH!

I'll let you two go back to quivering under your blankets and crying with anquish at the commie trans invasion now. ;)

See, I could concede the irony, if they didn't keep trying to do it.

Whether it's Disney execs admitting to 'putting as much Queerness in as I can', Queering of popular characters in media, Teaching radical gender theory in schools, Drag Queen story hour (even in my local library), Graphic comics in School Libraries etc. etc.

They keep trying to do it. So - on the Irony front - not to much.

However - I like Nick's response to this:


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TNU72D1XwSE

[pritch]

And can we have a police car with camo paint job instead of rainbow.


I wish you hadn't posted TDL's reply. Ive been managing to avoid them.

The rednecks complaining about there being a Gay Pride Month and only one day for veterans live in the USA - not in NZ. (Although it is evident that NZ has its own idiot element ready to adopt America's latest silliness.) One knuckle dragger came up with a bumper sticker slogan after a couple of Bud Lights and it caught on. Most of those people don't read anything longer than a bumper sticker anyway.


The facts are that in the USA they have Memorial Day to remember the fallen. They also have Veterans Day which acknowledges those who served, and they have Military Appreciation Month.

So to say that gays get a month and veterans only get one day is clearly nonsense..

[sugilite]

"Whether it's Disney execs admitting to 'putting as much Queerness in as I can', Queering of popular characters in media, Teaching radical gender theory in schools, Drag Queen story hour (even in my local library), Graphic comics in School Libraries etc. etc."

Did you go to the local library to check out the devastation being metered out in person?
Or are you just relying on the right leaning media branches reports that I'm sure are not over exaggerated at all.
SO SCARY!!!!!

[TheDemonLord]

"Whether it's Disney execs admitting to 'putting as much Queerness in as I can', Queering of popular characters in media, Teaching radical gender theory in schools, Drag Queen story hour (even in my local library), Graphic comics in School Libraries etc. etc."

Did you go to the local library to check out the devastation being metered out in person?
Or are you just relying on the right leaning media branches reports that I'm sure are not over exaggerated at all.
SO SCARY!!!!!

Why do they need to do it in Drag?

Answer that question first - then we can discuss.

[TheDemonLord]

I wish you hadn't posted TDL's reply. Ive been managing to avoid them.

The rednecks complaining about there being a Gay Pride Month and only one day for veterans live in the USA - not in NZ. (Although it is evident that NZ has its own idiot element ready to adopt America's latest silliness.) One knuckle dragger came up with a bumper sticker slogan after a couple of Bud Lights and it caught on. Most of those people don't read anything longer than a bumper sticker anyway.


The facts are that in the USA they have Memorial Day to remember the fallen. They also have Veterans Day which acknowledges those who served, and they have Military Appreciation Month.

So to say that gays get a month and veterans only get one day is clearly nonsense..

Does Military appreciation month get the same corporate backing as pride month? If the answer is no, then they are not comparable.

[Berries]

Oh I do like a man in uniform.

[Pursang]

It isn't a Binary World...It's obvious that you can have both!
https://sdpride.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Untitled-design-1-1024x576.png

[sugilite]

@ TDL, well it's right there in the title, Drag Queen story hour.
You are welcome :sunny:

[TheDemonLord]

@ TDL, well it's right there in the title, Drag Queen story hour.
You are welcome :sunny:

Doesn't answer the question though:

I've no issue with a rampantly gay man or cross dresser reading to kids. In the same way that I had no problem with Sasha Grey reading to kids.

However, someone who insists on flaunting sexuality in front of Children, I have to ask the question: Why do you need to do it in costume?

[R650R]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/130101648/ferdinand-the-bull-shot-with-arrows-two-men-involved-discharged-without-conviction

[Pursang]

However, someone who insists on flaunting sexuality in front of Children, I have to ask the question: Why do you need to do it in costume?

"I'm a Catholic Priest...It's not a Costume, it's the Uniform!"

[Pursang]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/130101648/ferdinand-the-bull-shot-with-arrows-two-men-involved-discharged-without-conviction

Perhaps a civil (Tort) suit is in order!

[TheDemonLord]

"I'm a Catholic Priest...It's not a Costume, it's the Uniform!"

Yep, I've no love for the Catholic Church either.

[pritch]

Perhaps a civil (Tort) suit is in order!

Not much point. To make a legal action worthwhile the defendant has to have the wherewithal to make the considerable expense worthwhile. The no-hopers involved in this case will have nothing.

[pritch]

Apparently there are cases of malaria reported in Florida and Texas. No doubt the conspiracy theorists will be creating stories about super insects escaping laboratories. This is more likely an effect of climate change but that would spoil a good story. They should have plenty of Chloroquine on hand though, having bought it up on Trump's suggestion as one of his magic COVID treatments.

[Pursang]

Apparently there are cases of malaria reported in Florida and Texas. No doubt the conspiracy theorists will be creating stories about super insects escaping laboratories. This is more likely an effect of climate change but that would spoil a good story. They should have plenty of Chloroquine on hand though, having bought it up on Trump's suggestion as one of his magic COVID treatments.

There should be plenty of Ivermectin out there too!

Not too much difference between equine intestinal worms and MALARIA...if you dig deep enough into the more endogamic web sources

Cheers, Daryl.

[R650R]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132464640/greens-rental-rules-rent-control-and-warrant-of-fitness-on-election-wishlist

Vote green if you want more costs passed onto renters and gauranteed rent rises every year. Also less rentals as many landlords will pull out of the market.

[pete376403]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132464640/greens-rental-rules-rent-control-and-warrant-of-fitness-on-election-wishlist

Vote green if you want more costs passed onto renters and gauranteed rent rises every year. Also less rentals as many landlords will pull out of the market.

So what happens to the places when landlords pull out of the market? Some will sell to people who were previously renting, maybe there are a (very) few who can afford to keep them empty, but most will have a mortgage on the place that has to be serviced.

[george formby]

Not well thunk through IMHO. Virtue signalling to the people who like glueing themselves to roads.

Why would a landlord spend money on improving a property, which is the greens aim, if it takes many years to recoup the costs?

Even if little landlords sell up, more properties on the market doesn't necessarily mean more private ownership, it's too hard to get a mortgage.
More likely property companies will step in, increase their portfolios and do the bare minimum to squeak by the requirements.

[pete376403]

Not well thunk through IMHO. Virtue signalling to the people who like glueing themselves to roads.

Why would a landlord spend money on improving a property, which is the greens aim, if it takes many years to recoup the costs?

Even if little landlords sell up, more properties on the market doesn't necessarily mean more private ownership, it's too hard to get a mortgage.
More likely property companies will step in, increase their portfolios and do the bare minimum to squeak by the requirements.

Agreed, but they still remain as rentals (even if almost unaffordable). Landlords small or large do not remain in business by keeping properties empty.

[Laava]

Another part of the same problem is how expensive it is to build. And the costs are ever being driven up by beauracracy. It should be cheaper to build than buy, therefore old shitboxes that do not comply with almost ANY standards are selling for ridiculous money. Desperate potential home owners with low incomes feel themselves being sucked under.

[Ocean1]

Another part of the same problem is how expensive it is to build. And the costs are ever being driven up by beauracracy. It should be cheaper to build than buy, therefore old shitboxes that do not comply with almost ANY standards are selling for ridiculous money. Desperate potential home owners with low incomes feel themselves being sucked under.

Have you read the draught new RMA?

Truly astonishing woke bullshit, after jumping endless hoops and hurdles which do nothing but limit your options you then have to deal with a local Iwi group with right of veto for pretty much everything.

[Laava]

I find all this shit deeply depressing. As we pay more money to compensate for endless select committees and public relations nonsense we are winding ourselves further into the bog. I no longer hesitate to build unconsented projects but even then, there can be considerable risk. Mostly, my work is not in glaringly obvious spots which attract attention…Our shortage of competant tradesmen is likely to be making things even more expensive…

[onearmedbandit]

If I pay the $1.50 per week to get access to better journalism from the Herald, does that mean they won't incorrectly point out errors?

They're. Short for 'they are'. As in 'they are a bit hesitant...'

[TheDemonLord]

If I pay the $1.50 per week to get access to better journalism from the Herald, does that mean they won't incorrectly point out errors?

They're. Short for 'they are'. As in 'they are a bit hesitant...'

Really is a damning indictment of what the bar is for 'New Zealands best journalism'

[pritch]

This was to my mind an interesting little storm in a tea cup. Nigel Farage, a noted bullshit artist, produced this clip when his bank asked him to take his business elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0F3OVfrQRA

Fans of Mr Farage were outraged. "If they can do this to him who will be next?" Etc etc. To their shame Tory MPs entered the fray. Farage is a proven liar and they should have known it would be unwise to rush to his defence on the basis of something he said.

Initially there were thoughts, that because the bank would not comment, he may have had some transactions that had triggered anti-money laundering actions by the bank. If suspicious activity is detected the banks are forbidden to disclose any information which could tip off guilty parties.

Thankfully the BBC has provided the answer. The bank in question is Coutts. This is a private bank for the very wealthy. They are open about their requirements, they are listed on the bank's web site. To have an account at Coutts you have to have a million pounds invested or on loan, or have three million pounds in savings with the bank. Farage evidently did not comply.

Farage claims the bank had not bothered about this during the previous ten years, which suggests he has failed to meet the criteria for at least ten years. Farage is also very upset at the BBC revealing his personal information.

There ar a number of entertaining YouTube clips from interested parties. Some from Farage supporters and some from sane people. :whistle:

[TheDemonLord]

This was to my mind an interesting little storm in a tea cup. Nigel Farage, a noted bullshit artist, produced this clip when his bank asked him to take his business elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0F3OVfrQRA

Fans of Mr Farage were outraged. "If they can do this to him who will be next?" Etc etc. To their shame Tory MPs entered the fray. Farage is a proven liar and they should have known it would be unwise to rush to his defence on the basis of something he said.

Initially there were thoughts, that because the bank would not comment, he may have had some transactions that had triggered anti-money laundering actions by the bank. If suspicious activity is detected the banks are forbidden to disclose any information which could tip off guilty parties.

Thankfully the BBC has provided the answer. The bank in question is Coutts. This is a private bank for the very wealthy. They are open about their requirements, they are listed on the bank's web site. To have an account at Coutts you have to have a million pounds invested or on loan, or have three million pounds in savings with the bank. Farage evidently did not comply.

Farage claims the bank had not bothered about this during the previous ten years, which suggests he has failed to meet the criteria for at least ten years. Farage is also very upset at the BBC revealing his personal information.

There ar a number of entertaining YouTube clips from interested parties. Some from Farage supporters and some from sane people. :whistle:

And the fact that this happened just after Farage won an award for Best News Presenter, rubbing it in the faces of the likes of the BBC is, of course, a complete coincidence.

[pete376403]

Really is a damning indictment of what the bar is for 'New Zealands best journalism'

Quotation marks indicate a cut and paste of Tams writing on Facebook. The (sic) - indicating "we know this is a mistake but that is what they wrote") would suggest the journalist recognised the mistake and flagged it accordingly, in which case the mistake is Tams, not the journalist. Journalists are not meant to alter another persons writing.

[onearmedbandit]

Quotation marks indicate a cut and paste of Tams writing on Facebook. The (sic) - indicating "we know this is a mistake but that is what they wrote") would suggest the journalist recognised the mistake and flagged it accordingly, in which case the mistake is Tams, not the journalist. Journalists are not meant to alter another persons writing.

How is it a mistake though? "They're" is the correct usage.

[husaberg]

How is it a mistake though? "They're" is the correct usage.

I'll say you're right;)

[pritch]

A short clip from Britain. Finding someone in any local Council who can talk sense is a challenge. Hopefully this guy can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqlf4B9ftAw

[onearmedbandit]

It's like something out of the Mr Bean series.

[sugilite]

A treat for our resident "humans are not causing climate change" affectionado.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfhqvWHpll8&

[TheDemonLord]

A short clip from Britain. Finding someone in any local Council who can talk sense is a challenge. Hopefully this guy can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqlf4B9ftAw

Heh - didn't know you watched BBB - I've been enjoying his analysis on the Farage/Bank account issue.

[pritch]

The BBC have been having a bad run. Politicians appointing mates to the board and recurring sex scandals among the problems. Now one more of the latter.

The BBC have confirmed the details as reported but have not named the presenter. The British national sport it now seems is posting on social media the name of whichever presenter has pissed you off lately as being the perv. It's hard to say how this should be handled but it might be that there's a better way than just having all their top presenters being accused.

This report has most of the details except the gender of the kid - and the name of the presenter of course.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/08/bbc-presenter-allegations-teenager

[pritch]

In case you hadn't heard, the Police investigation found no crime had been committed. The BBC have restarted their own investigation.

Jonathan Pie has released his take on proceedings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLFKcYphPCM

[R650R]

Awhile ago I posted some Green Party madness in here thinking they didn’t do dumb shit often enough (well not new dumb shit) to warrant their own thread…
However they are going for gold now…. Buckle up this one’s a doozy.

The greens want to undo the historic 2008 treaty claims deadline you know where national paid out billions for a “ final “ settlement so we could move forward as a nation.
They also want private land to be subject to claims with the crown/Maori getting first rights when it comes up for sale… what could possibly go wrong here..,.

I guess with labour and national selling out and going green stealing g their thunder they need to steal votes from the Maori party.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out as it’s likely many green voters could be wealthy pakeha living in remote scenic coastal areas that are prob former Maori lane areas. You’ve just spent mega bucks on your off grid solar hideawsy now it’s up for grabs

[pritch]

On FOX "News" Jesse Waters has now officially taken over Tucker Carlson's "white power hour" time slot. Apparently in the US it's not unusual for the station to have the proud mum call in to the show. This time it did not go quite as expected. It started with the proud mum bit then this...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6zxJgRxdrOc

[onearmedbandit]

What she said was right on point about not talking about other peoples bodies . Something for others to remember when they talked about Trump too maybe? There were plenty of comments on his skin colour, hand size and whether you could see he wore adult diapers or not under his suit pants.

Or is what is good for the goose also good for the gander? For the record I find comments from anyone criticising how other people look to be classless, even when I myself may have done it.

[pritch]

What she said was right on point about not talking about other peoples bodies . Something for others to remember when they talked about Trump too maybe? There were plenty of comments on his skin colour, hand size and whether you could see he wore adult diapers or not under his suit pants.

Or is what is good for the goose also good for the gander? For the record I find comments from anyone criticising how other people look to be classless, even when I myself may have done it.

I believe that comment is in reference to the current Republican obsession with matters transgender. This has puzzled me, they are treating it as a major problem, but how many trans people can there be? In my entire life I've seen two in this town. OK, I'd guess there are more in Karangahape Road or in downtown Wellington. To listen to the Republicans though you could get the impression that their country is over run with them.

It's not like they are the ones molesting kids either, it's the church leaders who tend to be Republicans. It seems like more than one a week in the news lately, either interfering with kids or being caught with a stash of kiddie porn.

[onearmedbandit]

I believe that comment is in reference to the current Republican obsession with matters transgender. This has puzzled me, they are treating it as a major problem, but how many trans people can there be? In my entire life I've seen two in this town. OK, I'd guess there are more in Karangahape Road or in downtown Wellington. To listen to the Republicans though you could get the impression that their country is over run with them.

It's not like they are the ones molesting kids either, it's the church leaders who tend to be Republicans. It seems like more than one a week in the news lately, either interfering with kids or being caught with a stash of kiddie porn.

Ah good point, I had missed that reference, I figured that it was regarding attacks on Biden.

I attended a private christian school, solely for its academic rating at the time, nothing to do with religion. Two of the more prominent heads of that school, both of whom would regularly lecture us on moral standards were found to be living in glass houses, one having an affair with an international teacher he had worked hard to bring to New Zealand 'for the betterment of the school', the second found himself in jail for child molestation...

[R650R]

I believe that comment is in reference to the current Republican obsession with matters transgender. This has puzzled me, they are treating it as a major problem, but how many trans people can there be? In my entire life I've seen two in this town. OK, I'd guess there are more in Karangahape Road or in downtown Wellington. To listen to the Republicans though you could get the impression that their country is over run with them.

It's not like they are the ones molesting kids either, it's the church leaders who tend to be Republicans. It seems like more than one a week in the news lately, either interfering with kids or being caught with a stash of kiddie porn.

You’re likely 100% correct in that assessment Pritch.

The problem is this small minority for some unknown reason tends to gravitate towards educational professions and govt jobs where they can overly influence young minds and public policy.

There’s so few of them yet this govt in this country made a law banning conversion therapy. Digest that for a moment… there are so few of them yet if one of them decides they want to change their mind and go back the other way again it’s ILLEGAL to offer them assistance in that journey. Think of the mental health trauma someone in that situation would be going through and it’s illegal to help them.

There’s so few of them major movie companies and other big business are investing pro rainbow money well out of proportion to the market share of the audience revenue value. It’s almost like there’s a worldwide conspiracy to completely deconstruct the traditional family unit.

[pritch]

I attended a private christian school, solely for its academic rating at the time,

Yeah, my brother's kid attended Dilworth School which has been in the news for the wrong reasons of late. The events in the news are historic and took place prior to his time there.

[Laava]

of the more prominent heads of that school, both of whom would regularly lecture us on moral standards were found to be living in glass houses, one having an affair with an international teacher he had worked hard to bring to New Zealand 'for the betterment of the school', the second found himself in jail for child molestation...
Sadly this is more of an expectation than an outrage.
My personal involvements with catholic priests was limited to one, on one day, in less than 5 minutes. He didn't know me but immediately started feeling me up. I was 7 and had no idea what was going on and it wasn't even until years later that I figured out what had happened. And since then, given the propensity for priests to be paedos and the church to enable them I have ZERO regard for priests, their rotten churches and the whole farcical catholic religion in general.
If you are a member of the catholic club, sorry for offending you but seriously, get a better religion.

Long story short, catholic priests I have met, 100% paedos.

[husaberg]

You’re likely 100% correct in that assessment Pritch.

The problem is this small minority for some unknown reason tends to gravitate towards educational professions and govt jobs where they can overly influence young minds and public policy.

There’s so few of them yet this govt in this country made a law banning conversion therapy. Digest that for a moment… there are so few of them yet if one of them decides they want to change their mind and go back the other way again it’s ILLEGAL to offer them assistance in that journey. Think of the mental health trauma someone in that situation would be going through and it’s illegal to help them.

There’s so few of them major movie companies and other big business are investing pro rainbow money well out of proportion to the market share of the audience revenue value. It’s almost like there’s a worldwide conspiracy to completely deconstruct the traditional family unit.

To me its really odd how consumed you are by your perceived take on transgender and sexual preference issues?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRcWi123n9GVV2MBS5iJcUNOydW5cLnC KA5Sg&usqp=CAU

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/FT_17.11.21_religionTransgender_featured.png?w=640&h=320&crop=1https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/FT_17.11.21_religionTransgender_determined420px.pn g

[onearmedbandit]

This was to my mind an interesting little storm in a tea cup. Nigel Farage, a noted bullshit artist, produced this clip when his bank asked him to take his business elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0F3OVfrQRA

Fans of Mr Farage were outraged. "If they can do this to him who will be next?" Etc etc. To their shame Tory MPs entered the fray. Farage is a proven liar and they should have known it would be unwise to rush to his defence on the basis of something he said.

Initially there were thoughts, that because the bank would not comment, he may have had some transactions that had triggered anti-money laundering actions by the bank. If suspicious activity is detected the banks are forbidden to disclose any information which could tip off guilty parties.

Thankfully the BBC has provided the answer. The bank in question is Coutts. This is a private bank for the very wealthy. They are open about their requirements, they are listed on the bank's web site. To have an account at Coutts you have to have a million pounds invested or on loan, or have three million pounds in savings with the bank. Farage evidently did not comply.

Farage claims the bank had not bothered about this during the previous ten years, which suggests he has failed to meet the criteria for at least ten years. Farage is also very upset at the BBC revealing his personal information.

There ar a number of entertaining YouTube clips from interested parties. Some from Farage supporters and some from sane people. :whistle:

I care not of UK politics but I see now that Coutts have apologised to Farage and that he did have sufficient funds to keep his account open.

[pritch]

I care not of UK politics but I see now that Coutts have apologised to Farage and that he did have sufficient funds to keep his account open.

I saw the apology and wondered if they were just trying to make the problem go away. If they hoped Farage would quietly disappear they stuffed up. This could drag on, Farage is hardly ever out of the news. He's one of these people who endlessly claims on TV that he is being silenced.

[onearmedbandit]

At the end of the day as they are a private institute they can decide who they want to have as a client and who they don't, but it appears the way this was handled they've ended up looking a bit silly. Which if what you say about Farage is true he won't let them forget in a hurry.

[pritch]

Seems the twat liked getting an apology so now he needs another fix.

[husaberg]

Seems the twat liked getting an apology so now he needs another fix.

you have to love that he is trying to use this clause.


The legislation states: “A credit institution must not discriminate against consumers legally resident in the European Union by reason of their nationality or place of residence or by reason of any other ground referred to in article 21 of the charter of fundamental rights of the European Union when those consumers apply for or access a payment account.”
https://ez9mxwef6ut.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Copy-of-goalposts-vaccine-1-fact-check-1024x1024.png?strip=all&lossy=0&ssl=1
https://www.politico.eu/article/basic-right-to-a-bank-account/
They can decide hes not a cutomer they want to have.

[pritch]

you have to love that he is trying to use this clause.


He appears to have no sense of irony.

The Government are considering law changes but with typical acumen the proposed changes will make it easier for criminals and money launderers. Chunks of London real estate are owned by Russian oligarchs because of Britain's slack adherence to international requirements.

From the Guardian today,
"It follows the recent furore over Coutts’s rationale for closing Farage’s accounts, the details of which emerged after he obtained and released internal documents last week. Those documents showed Farage had been “below commercial criteria for some time”, since customers are required to hold £3m in savings or borrow or invest £1m, and that the bank believed his alleged “xenophobic, chauvinistic and racist views” did not align with its values."

The word "alleged" seems superfluous in that instance.

[husaberg]

He appears to have no sense of irony.

The Government are considering law changes but with typical acumen the proposed changes will make it easier for criminals and money launderers. Chunks of London real estate are owned by Russian oligarchs because of Britain's slack adherence to international requirements.

From the Guardian today,
"It follows the recent furore over Coutts’s rationale for closing Farage’s accounts, the details of which emerged after he obtained and released internal documents last week. Those documents showed Farage had been “below commercial criteria for some time”, since customers are required to hold £3m in savings or borrow or invest £1m, and that the bank believed his alleged “xenophobic, chauvinistic and racist views” did not align with its values."

The word "alleged" seems superfluous in that instance.

They are also required to monitor politically exposed persons for laundering etc this comes at a cost

[As of June 2017, the UK's PEP definition is identical to the 2012 FATF definition, i.e. including reference to domestic PEPs; it is found in the Money Laundering Regulations 2017 Section 35A PEP is considered to be any individual who fits any of the criteria listed below:

A foreign person who has held any time in the preceding year a prominent public function outside the United Kingdom, in a state or international institution
Members of courts of auditors or of the boards of central banks
Ambassadors, chargés d'affaires and high-ranking officers in the armed forces
Members of the administrative, management or supervisory bodies of state-owned enterprises
Heads of state, heads of government, ministers and deputy or assistant ministers
Members of parliaments
Members of supreme courts, constitutional courts or of other high-level judicial bodies
The definition explicitly excludes middle-ranking or more junior officials.

PEP status also extends to relatives and close associates. Relatives and close associates include a spouse, a partner, children and their spouses or partners and parents. While other family members may not qualify under this definition, it may be appropriate to consider that other family members can also be used as a front for corrupt activities. Therefore, it may be appropriate to apply the definition to other extended family members that may have increased risk factors present and apply the requirements of the regulation (e.g. a PEP with material negative information may use their brother as a front for processing their proceeds of corruption). Close associates include any individual who is known to have joint beneficial ownership of a legal entity or legal arrangement, or any other close business relations. It also includes any individual who has sole beneficial ownership of a legal entity or legal arrangement which is known to have been set up for the benefit of a person referred to in regulation.

The Financial Conduct Authority and Joint Money Laundering Steering Group both publish comprehensive guidance on both PEPs and other know your customer (KYC) related matters to assist firms in complying with their legal obligations.

The 4th EU AML Directive is expected to update the definition to include domestic PEPs, and limit relatives-status to spouse and partner only, and no longer the children and parents of PEPs.


Coutts reiterated that account closures involved a number of factors "including commercial viability, reputational considerations, and legal and regulatory requirements." Coutts said it could not comment on the detail of the case due to client confidentiality.

[onearmedbandit]

It just gets worse (which is better as far as Farage is concerned I guess)...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jul/26/natwest-boss-alison-rose-nigel-farage-account-coutts

Turns out she leaked the story to the BBC...not a good look for the CEO of the bank to be providing surely sensitive information on a client to the media. Just dumb.

[pritch]

Turns out she leaked the story to the BBC...not a good look for the CEO of the bank to be providing surely sensitive information on a client to the media. Just dumb.

A news comment clip I heard this morning suggested that following her resignation she has a golden parachute and will now likely be able to have her own account at Coutts.

[husaberg]

So Farange politicises his bank account from a private exclusive bank being wound up, Then complains when it is reported its because of his his politics and lack of funds for the accounts, Then gets apologies from the BBC reporting what they were told and brings down the CEO of the bank for releasing the information he was politicising.
Hard to believe with all his good press, links to Russia, racism, xenophobia the potential laundering of bribes and other costs where they are obliged to closely monitor his accounts.
Why they or other banks might want to not be involved with him. Its a real puzzler:scratch:

[onearmedbandit]

A news comment clip I heard this morning suggested that following her resignation she has a golden parachute and will now likely be able to have her own account at Coutts.

A total and absolute mess. And it leaves him with a rather smug looking smirk on his face.

[pete376403]

A total and absolute mess. And it leaves him with a rather smug looking smirk on his face.
Isn't that his look at any time?

[pritch]

Isn't that his look at any time?

Exactly.

Twitter (X?) seems to think I want to read his utterings and I've been getting several a day. I'm reminded of the time early in Trump's presidency when Farage visited Trump and they got on so well Trump asked the British government to make Farage Ambassador to the US.

[pritch]

How embarrassing.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/27/mod-accidentally-sends-classified-emails-meant-for-us-to-russian-ally

[Laava]

I am sure they will take steps to ensure it never happens again!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[pritch]

Among other things the bank called Farage. a “disingenuous grifter” who promoted “xenophobic, chauvinistic and racist views”.

Sounds about right.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/28/tapped-into-something-banking-row-nigel-farage-crusade

[pritch]

While all the RWNJs are agonising about drag shows it seems every day there's another news item about a US pastor or church youth group leader sexually assaulting or raping a kid. In the light of that I guess this shouldn't come as a surprise.

[george formby]

:facepalm: Not much thinking about this decision.

Fat Bottom Girls not appropriate. (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/fat-bottomed-girls-cut-from-queens-greatest-hits-to-appease-younger-audience/4OIKYCXVOFE3DP5WORBQFVGTH4/)

Whut?

[Pursang]

:facepalm: Not much thinking about this decision.

Fat Bottom Girls not appropriate. (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/fat-bottomed-girls-cut-from-queens-greatest-hits-to-appease-younger-audience/4OIKYCXVOFE3DP5WORBQFVGTH4/)

Whut?

Yet pretty stupid. There are a lot more fat bottomed girls around these days than there were back in the 70's.
So, cutting the track is actually a dis to the whole modern 'Body Positive' & it's OK to be full figured movement, (which, it appears, is getting bigger every day!)

[pritch]

There are unconfirmed reports that the head of the Wagner Group, Prigozhin, has been killed ina plane crash. He had been recalled to Moscow from Africa for a meeting. Following the meeting the plane he was on crashed. Or was shot down? Details are murky. Prigozhin has been declared dead before. Some news sources will not confirm the death without sighting a body.

Update:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UQAUj914h0

[Laava]

Love the comment, "imagine being the pilot and seeing prigozhin get on your plane!"

[actungbaby]

:facepalm: Not much thinking about this decision.

Fat Bottom Girls not appropriate. (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/fat-bottomed-girls-cut-from-queens-greatest-hits-to-appease-younger-audience/4OIKYCXVOFE3DP5WORBQFVGTH4/)

Whut?Love the song seems bit pc

Sent from my CPH1941 using Tapatalk

[actungbaby]

Yet pretty stupid. There are a lot more fat bottomed girls around these days than there were back in the 70's.
So, cutting the track is actually a dis to the whole modern 'Body Positive' & it's OK to be full figured movement, (which, it appears, is getting bigger every day!)Thats what i think too i guess
Most rap videos girls twriling
There behinds be taken down.

Sent from my CPH1941 using Tapatalk

[mashman]

Climate change: Thousands of penguins die in Antarctic ice breakup (https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66492767)...

Could be in for an interesting summer.

353631353632

[pritch]

This Doctor has lost her licence to practice. If you read the item you may wonder why it took so long. I recall the YouTube clip when she was in the news for claiming the COVID vaccine made you magnetic.

She was not an MD she was a DO, a doctor of osteopathy. As far as I know that's only a thing in the US, in this country osteopaths are not doctors. DOs have not been covering themselves in glory of late. The US gymnastic team doctor who performed 'pelvic manipulation' on the young girls in his care was also a DO. He is serving sixty years in prison and the athletes were awarded a US$380 million payout.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/doctor-covid-vaccines-magnetic-licence-suspended-b2391094.html

[pritch]

David Seymour ACT considers that if Nelson Mandela was alive today he'd vote for ACT.

Ooops!

[pritch]

Saw this yesterday but it was brief and just the one report. Today there's more. Firefighters in Florida's special Disney District supported the Governor in his war on woke - and on Disney. They are now dismayed to learn that they and their families will no longer get free passes to Disney World. Guess you could say they failed a real world intelligence test.

In response to the Governor's moves against the state's biggest employer Disney cancelled moving their headquarters from California to Florida. Billions gone from Florida's economy. Disney have also launched a legal action against the Governor. His response is to say he has 'moved on' and they should drop the action. One of the moves he made against them was to remove the special tax arrangement Disney had, so dropping their legal action is unlikely.

DeSantis has other things to worry about though. Florida now has Malaria, Dengue fever, and leprosy, in the community. The public health positions in the state remain unfilled.

But he wants to be President.

[Ocean1]

David Seymour ACT considers that if Nelson Mandela was alive today he'd vote for ACT.

Ooops!

He wouldn't have, of course, like labour and te pati Maori he had a lot to say about equality of outcomes for distinct ethnic groups, and not a lot about equality for individuals.

[mashman]

Wind Farm in Germany Dismantled to Expand Coal Mine (https://www.realclearenergy.org/2023/04/04/wind_farm_in_germany_dismantled_to_expand_coal_min e_891111.html)

[R650R]

Wind Farm in Germany Dismantled to Expand Coal Mine (https://www.realclearenergy.org/2023/04/04/wind_farm_in_germany_dismantled_to_expand_coal_min e_891111.html)

The pitfalls of being in NATO. Russia has turned off the gas, greens and Fukushima turned off nuke plants…. and now the Germans are freezing to death….
Lignite is a low grade coal only useful for energy burning but before the war was about 15% of German energy needs prob higher now.

It may help you to sleep at night though that thanks to German efficiency they restore the landscape as the huge bucket conveyer shovel travels along…


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoy6PjCyWDM&pp=ygUbV2VsdCB3b3JsZHMgbGFyZ2VzdCBtYWNoaW5l

[pritch]

The stuff of nightmares.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/aug/28/live-worm-living-womans-brain-australia-depression-forgetfulness

[pritch]

You may have the impression that your local council does not employ the best and brightest. I certainly do. The arborists are great but you have to run an obstacle course of the drones in the office to get to them. Still, it could be worse.


From Atlanta this is like something Kafka might have written.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEa2HiUDy5Y

[pritch]

Two people in China have been charged with demolishing a section of the Great Wall to create a shortcut. It's simply staggering that they thought that would be OK.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2023/09/two-detained-after-using-digger-to-create-shortcut-through-great-wall-of-china.html

[sugilite]

Fuck you automotive industry, especially you Nissan!
https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/06/mozilla_vehicle_data_privacy/

[george formby]

Fuck you automotive industry, especially you Nissan!
https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/06/mozilla_vehicle_data_privacy/

And here's me getting a wee nudge for listening to the radio in the car..

Never crossed my mind to connect the phone.

[sugilite]

A Texas town with population of 250 - 50 of them are cops - no corruption to see here :lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vkD-efoFos&t=608s

[onearmedbandit]

A Texas town with population of 250 - 50 of them are cops - no corruption to see here :lol:



Now suspended for 30 days while they 'investigate' him.

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[pritch]

Whoever said there was no such thing as a silly question hadn't heard this.

[onearmedbandit]

Yup that's blown that theory out of the water!!

[pritch]

It's probably best not to piss off the digger driver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPXk9B1GTsU

[pritch]

in Ohio a dad found that his eleven year old daughter had been groomed by an adult male and had supplied explicit pics in response to his requests. There is a clip on social media showing the police at the house following the dad's call. During the conversation a woman cop tells the father that the daughter could be charged for creating porn. At that point the father said goodnight and closed the door, then posted a clip of the incident. Online outrage ensues.

The PD has responded as below.

[onearmedbandit]

Just f*cking wow.

[pritch]

In Nevada two teens, 16 and 18, joy riding in a stolen car came across a cyclist. They deliberately rammed him and drove off leaving him dying on the road. They recorded this, presumably to post on social media. The victim was a retired police officer.

They are to be tried as adults. They are black. Nevada still has the death sentence.

One of the teens has told the cops that he'll be out in 30 days.

He may be out in thirty days, but thirty years might be more likely.


Update. Now that time has passed a more detailed news report.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx52YKPpN7w

[R650R]

In Nevada two teens, 16 and 18, joy riding in a stolen car came across a cyclist. They deliberately rammed him and drove off leaving him dying on the road. They recorded this, presumably to post on social media. The victim was a retired police officer.

They are to be tried as adults. They are black. Nevada still has the death sentence.

One of the teens has told the cops that he'll be out in 30 days.

He may be out in thirty days, but thirty years might be more likely.

In NZ the judges would be required to account for their disadvantaged upbringing so they would be lucky to get ten years. Vote ACT to change this ;)

[pritch]

In NZ the judges would be required to account for their disadvantaged upbringing so they would be lucky to get ten years. Vote ACT to change this ;)

That can happen in the USA, but seems less likely if the perpetrators are black. Which is why I mentioned their colour.

Voting ACT will change nothing. ACT will not be the government, they will just be a sideshow. Situation normal...

[R650R]

That can happen in the USA, but seems less likely if the perpetrators are black. Which is why I mentioned their colour.

Voting ACT will change nothing. ACT will not be the government, they will just be a sideshow. Situation normal...

We shall see come results day. A lot of people including myself are still disappointed with National as they are still a bit too softly softly PC trying to get centre vote and also believe in the climate religion. ACTs no nonsense signs are everywhere including “end division by race”.

[sugilite]

Might be a bit early to be breaking out the party hats R650R. We might get the nirvana of a labor/green/maori/nz first coalition :sunny: <===== Sarcasm alert


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7tmERW4dwk&t=140s&pp=ygUOd2luc3RvbiBwZXRlcnM%3D

[R650R]

Hehe imagine that hell…. Peters has given his word he won’t go with labour after they concealed the te puapua report from him.
Maori and greens are both becoming irrelevant as the other parties take up their cause anyway.
Also the fringe antivax parties are stealing votes from them too.
It ain’t over till the fat lady sings though…

[sugilite]

The fat lady may well be on a diet. The latest polls (for what that is worth) is showing act, labor down, and the coocoo parties are down - greens are up and Luxon saying he is willing to work with Peters. That will have Seymour swallowing a dead rat.
And Peters saying he will not work with labor - he is a politician, so is likely lying.

[pritch]

The only thing reliable about the polls is that they are unreliable. Technology changes mean they are outdated and no longer an accurate indicator of what people are thinking. They likely won't be completely wild but their margin of error is probably just joke status.

[pritch]

Some 59 hours from a government shut down the Republicans in the US Congress are busying themselves with their sham impeachment inquiry. Hundreds of thousands of government employees won't get paid. Some, like military personnel, will be paid later. Some though, will be laid off until funding resumes and will never get the money. Contractors working for firms that rely on government work will have no money coming in.

Trump has encouraged Republicans to do this, he seems to think it will stop his court cases. It won't. The courts and the Justice Department are funded differently.

Neither does it stop politicians wages, although should. They might be less enthusiastic about the shut down if it did.

[sugilite]

Yeah, I see mat gates has generously asked not to be paid through the shut down.
I just wanna puke when I see polis pull this malarkey.
I remember when jenny shiply went on the benefit for 1 whole week. Never mind her power bill would of been settled, and all her cupboards were already filled with food.
Fuggen polis :tugger:

[R650R]

Some 59 hours from a government shut down the Republicans in the US Congress are busying themselves with their sham impeachment inquiry. Hundreds of thousands of government employees won't get paid. Some, like military personnel, will be paid later. Some though, will be laid off until funding resumes and will never get the money. Contractors working for firms that rely on government work will have no money coming in.

Trump has encouraged Republicans to do this, he seems to think it will stop his court cases. It won't. The courts and the Justice Department are funded differently.

Neither does it stop politicians wages, although should. They might be less enthusiastic about the shut down if it did.

Now please remind us all who’s actually in charge of USA at moment….

When Trump was President the hysteria from the left that this normal yearly event was his fault but it’s no different to our parliament closing near Xmas time etc except the process is a bit different money wise.

This is a normal process that intelligent human beings should have marked on their calandra and be prepared for.

[pritch]

Yeah, I see mat gates has generously asked not to be paid through the shut down.
I just wanna puke when I see polis pull this malarkey.
I remember when jenny shiply went on the benefit for 1 whole week. Never mind her power bill would of been settled, and all her cupboards were already filled with food.
Fuggen polis :tugger:

Can't recall that, but I do recall a minister was going survive on the dole for a week - in her ministerial house - with her ministerial chauffeur. She caught a cold though, so she cancelled her plan.

[pritch]

Now please remind us all who’s actually in charge of USA at moment….

When Trump was President the hysteria from the left that this normal yearly event was his fault but it’s no different to our parliament closing near Xmas time etc except the process is a bit different money wise.

This is a normal process that intelligent human beings should have marked on their calandra and be prepared for.



The Republicans are in charge of Congress and Congress controls the purse strings. Government shut downs are not supposed to be normal.

I don't know if it's true, but I read recently that the Democrats have never initiated a government shut down. It seems to be entirely a Republican thing. Certainly every one that I recall has been, going back to the Tea Party members who basically got themselves elected to do exactly that. Some are still there, now they and those of like mind, call themselves the Freedom Caucus.

[pete376403]

Now please remind us all who’s actually in charge of USA at moment….

When Trump was President the hysteria from the left that this normal yearly event was his fault but it’s no different to our parliament closing near Xmas time etc except the process is a bit different money wise.

This is a normal process that intelligent human beings should have marked on their calandra and be prepared for.

Federal shutdowns only started being a thing in the 80's The AG issued opinions that said it was illegal for the government to spend money without congressional approval. Long shutdowns have been stimulated by republicans. The longest federal shutdown was 34 days, december 2018 - january 2019, occurred when republicans had the congress and the presidency (trump). Even when they had two out of three branches they still couldn't agree on how to get things done.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_United_States_federal_government _shutdown
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/longest-government-shutdown-us-history/

So not really a "normal process", more like a political point scoring exercise that even Mitch McConnell says "They never have produced a policy change and they've always been a loser for Republicans politically."

[pritch]

The lunatic MAGA Republicans: Gaetz, Tayor Green, Boebert, etc, were out played and outvoted. A short term spending extension has been approved. They have a replay in 45 days?

Gaetz tried to move a motion to vacate the chair, with the intent of sacking the Speaker, but he wasn't quick enough, he was beaten by the gavel.

[sugilite]

They passed a 45 day stop gap, so caved as usual. What a shit show. Imagine a bunch of your teams supposed "law makers" acting more immature than your average primary school kid. :facepalm:

[pritch]

It is alleged that a Democrat tried to set off the fire alarms in an effort to cause a delay at one point. Had he been successful he should have faced the same obstructing Congress charge that some of the Jan 6 insurrectionists faced.

[husaberg]

Now please remind us all who’s actually in charge of USA at moment….

When Trump was President the hysteria from the left that this normal yearly event was his fault but it’s no different to our parliament closing near Xmas time etc except the process is a bit different money-wise.

This is a normal process that intelligent human beings should have marked on their calandra and be prepared for.

70% of us govt shutdowns are republican initiated when the Senate is republican
When Trump was in charge they had a 35 day shutdown the republicans controlled both the senate and Congress.
but you don't mind when the facts don't agree with your theories...

[pete376403]

One of my preferred US commentators talking about how the shutdown was avoided (or deferred for 45 days)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHGPz0xec0s

[pritch]

One of my preferred US commentators talking about how the shutdown was avoided (or deferred for 45 days)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHGPz0xec0s

Agreed. I visit him most days.

[pritch]

History is made in the US Congress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJfX9zSVQmo

[R650R]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/133061240/climate-researcher-set-to-lose-his-job-because-he-refused-to-get-on-a-longhaul-plane

Can’t help but think this guy was setup by his employer, not that I have much sympathy for any of ctinction rebellion nutters.
Also hilarious is the Keli institute exposing their own hypocracy which seems common to all these climate cult organisations

[pritch]

Well the citizens of the USA can breathe a sigh of relief. Conspiracy theorists predicted the 5G phone alarm test on the 4th October was going to turn people who had been vaccinated into zombies. There are no reports of this happening.

You'd think after the failure of so many of their idiot predictions they might get the message. Apparently not.

[Laava]

Idiot predictions by idiots are never seen as failures by those idiots

[pritch]

Idiot predictions by idiots are never seen as failures by those idiots

Excellent.

[sugilite]

To summarize.....
Gang member picks a fight with an intellectually handicapped guy minding his own business.
Gang member proceeds to bash the poor guy.
Gang member decides to go prime time and relocate the "fight" to a position in view of CCTV cameras.
Gang member then takes poor guys bloodstained shirt and pops it in his own car for the cops to find later.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I feel we have a winner for the very much coveted KB Fridays "Stupid World" Awards :brick:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300984093/gang-member-violently-attacked-intellectually-disabled-man-smashing-bottle-on-his-head

[pete376403]

To summarize.....
Gang member picks a fight with an intellectually handicapped guy minding his own business.
Gang member proceeds to bash the poor guy.
Gang member decides to go prime time and relocate the "fight" to a position in view of CCTV cameras.
Gang member then takes poor guys bloodstained shirt and pops it in his own car for the cops to find later.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I feel we have a winner for the very much coveted KB Fridays "Stupid World" Awards :brick:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300984093/gang-member-violently-attacked-intellectually-disabled-man-smashing-bottle-on-his-head

Looking forward to seeing the sentencing outcome in December. Arsehole lawyer will probably argue the victim was already disabled so the assault wont have done any more damage, thus the cunt should get a lesser sentence. At most he will get home detention and anger management counselling .

[R650R]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/napier-areas-puketapu-bridge-to-be-rebuilt-after-cyclone-gabrielle-damage

At least another 18 months (on top of six already passed) to build a new bridge. I say we offer 1000 Chinese engineers and workers citizenship and get it built in say 6 months.
Thanks to peculiarity’s of local boundaries Hastings District Council is footing the bill.
The article goes on about cycle route impact but losing this bridge has buggeted a lot of motorcycle loops too.

[pritch]

The recent happenings in Israel are tragic. Sensible comment on social media is hard to come by. The situation is complicated and goes back a century or so. It's not all the fault of one side.

This editorial in Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper, appeals to me because it aligns with my thoughts. To read it all you need to supply an email address, their software didn't recognise a .co.nz email address. I used my backup Gmail address no problem.


https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-10-08/ty-article-opinion/netanyahu-bears-responsibility/0000018b-0b9d-d8fc-adff-6bfd1c880000

[pete376403]

The recent happenings in Israel are tragic. Sensible comment on social media is hard to come by. The situation is complicated and goes back a century or so. It's not all the fault of one side.

This editorial in Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper, appeals to me because it aligns with my thoughts. To read it all you need to supply an email address, their software didn't recognise a .co.nz email address. I used my backup Gmail address no problem.


https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-10-08/ty-article-opinion/netanyahu-bears-responsibility/0000018b-0b9d-d8fc-adff-6bfd1c880000
I agree.
Russia annexes Crimea then invades the rest of Ukraine because, ostensibly, vague historical reasons, but really to shore up a faltering political system, so Ukraine fights back - world says "Russia bad, lets all help the poor Ukrainians"
Israel annexes the west bank and attacks Gaza, because, ostensibly, vague religious reasons, but really to shore up a faltering political system, so Hamas fights back - world says "Hamas evil terrorists, more aid to Israel is required"

[onearmedbandit]

The way I see it, there are no innocent sides in either war. But there are plenty of innocents being murdered. Stupid world indeed. Even stupider is this sort of shit has been going on for eons, and will forever continue too until mankind no longer exists.

[george formby]

The recent happenings in Israel are tragic. Sensible comment on social media is hard to come by. The situation is complicated and goes back a century or so. It's not all the fault of one side.

This editorial in Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper, appeals to me because it aligns with my thoughts. To read it all you need to supply an email address, their software didn't recognise a .co.nz email address. I used my backup Gmail address no problem.


https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-10-08/ty-article-opinion/netanyahu-bears-responsibility/0000018b-0b9d-d8fc-adff-6bfd1c880000

You can only kick a dog so often before it bites and that is exactly how a swathe of Israelis think of and treat Palestinians.

Again, the pollys and terrorist leaders are sacrificing the innocent. It's shit.

[pritch]

The US DoJ seem to operate off a long run up. The BBC are reporting that Congressman George Santos who lied about anything and everything has been charged with twenty three criminal counts.

That has taken a long time but seems to have been worth waiting for. Then again it could take years to get to court.

[pritch]

A Xitter exchange. It would be dangerous to piss this woman Greta off.

Charlie Kirk runs Turning Point a MAGA propaganda outfit funded by the far right and aimed at students.

[pritch]

Senator Tommy Tuberville, Republican, Alabama - or Florida? The confusion arises because the Senator represents Alabama but he owns no property there and has lived in Florida for years. That could be regarded as electoral fraud.

When the former college football coach arrived in DC to take his Senate seat he was asked by a journalist what the three branches of government were. He didn't know

Senator Tuberville is currently holding up over 300 senior military promotions because he believes the military should not be providing abortions. The military does not provide abortions, but if a serving member needs that service and it is not available where they are posted, the military will move them to somewhere it is available.

When Biden stumbled boarding a 'plane Tuberville made much of this as evidence that Biden was not fit to be President. Karma can be brutal.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QkErZomQUSE

[pritch]

Sometimes the world gets it right.

The Tory candidate for the Tamworth seat vacated by the deplorable Nadine Dories, who had resigned because she hadn't been given a seat in the House of Lords, had posted the attached flow chart. It was ages ago, he said. I didn't write it I just posted it, he said.

I was pleased to see this morning that Labour had taken the seat. The Tory candidate can return to well merited obscurity.

[R650R]

This is so hilariously stupid it should be in joke section. But it’s nailed stupid because of how many media outlets gave this oxygen when it was so obviously never going to work on so many levels.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5EGx4u0NMs&pp=ygULdGh1bmRlcmYwMHQ%3D

[R650R]

If only one had the foresight to setup for this scenario. There’s so many angles on this. Sheer govt ineptitude that they can’t manage the process themselves and use military land etc. The massive profit of one man through the misery of many enabled by weak political choices….

“Earning 3.5million pounds a day would be nice”


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12668151/The-60-million-migrant-hotel-king-Taxpayers-hand-caravan-park-tycoon-fortune-house-asylum-seekers.html

[pritch]

Y'all will recall that Sidney Powell accepted a plea deal thus avoiding jail time. She, or her people, are now claiming that the plea deal was extorted from her.
Interesting. The trial was due to start the day after the deal was announced. The DA can now schedule a trial almost immediately if she wishes. There may be some serious discussions taking place about now.

Sidney always impressed as being a bit loopy. It was as if she really believed the idiocy about Hugo Chavez and the voting machines. She needs to smarten up.

[pete376403]

Y'all will recall that Sidney Powell accepted a plea deal thus avoiding jail time. She, or her people, are now claiming that the plea deal was extorted from her.
Interesting. The trial was due to start the day after the deal was announced. The DA can now schedule a trial almost immediately if she wishes. There may be some serious discussions taking place about now.

Sidney always impressed as being a bit loopy. It was as if she really believed the idiocy about Hugo Chavez and the voting machines. She needs to smarten up.

a BIT loopy?

[husaberg]

Senator Tommy Tuberville, Republican, Alabama - or Florida? The confusion arises because the Senator represents Alabama but he owns no property there and has lived in Florida for years. That could be regarded as electoral fraud.

When the former college football coach arrived in DC to take his Senate seat he was asked by a journalist what the three branches of government were. He didn't know

Senator Tuberville is currently holding up over 300 senior military promotions because he believes the military should not be providing abortions. The military does not provide abortions, but if a serving member needs that service and it is not available where they are posted, the military will move them to somewhere it is available.

When Biden stumbled boarding a 'plane Tuberville made much of this as evidence that Biden was not fit to be President. Karma can be brutal.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QkErZomQUSE
He started a charity much like ol trumps


Tommy Tuberville Foundation
Through its first five years, the foundation raised $289,599 but spent just $51,658 on charitable causes, tax records showed.n 2020, The New York Times reported that Tuberville campaign and foundation officials "produced internal records for 2018 that showed nearly $20,000 was raised for a temporary project to provide a retreat for veterans. But the records raised bookkeeping questions, since they showed more than $61,000 of 2018 revenue, roughly twice what the charity reported to the I.R.S. that year".

In 2021, the Washington Post reported, the foundation "reported it had $74,101 in revenue and spent just 12 percent of that, or $9,000, while $32,000 went to administrative costs (including nearly $12,400 to pay off a truck the charity purchased in 2018 for $27,369)". By the end of 2021, the foundation's website had gone defunct.

In an Alabama Daily News interview after the election, Tuberville said that the European theater of World War II was fought "to free Europe of socialism" and erroneously that the three branches of the U.S. federal government were "the House, the Senate, and the executive." He also said that he was looking forward to raising money from his Senate office, a violation of federal law.

[pritch]

These people are out there.

[Grumph]

They always were - but when all they could reach was the rest of the crowd in a public bar they weren't as visible.

Now they've got a megaphone. And a way of reaching other dickheads.

[Laava]

Dont worry, this is not the US, these people will always be marginal and too gutless to make a show of it.

[onearmedbandit]

They always were - but when all they could reach was the rest of the crowd in a public bar they weren't as visible.

Now they've got a megaphone. And a way of reaching other dickheads.

100% this. There have always been nutcases, just before the internet they had no reach other than a town square. Now every nutter has a soap box.

[Grumph]

Dont worry, this is not the US, these people will always be marginal and too gutless to make a show of it.

Not when there are people like Brian Tamaki and other aspiring politicians who can see something in it for them.
The show they made at Parliament should have opened eyes to what was going on in the background.

[pritch]

Dont worry, this is not the US, these people will always be marginal and too gutless to make a show of it.

There are a number of these people receiving more than their share of attention: Liz Gunn, Julian Batchelor, Chantelle Baker, Kelvyn Alp, Philip Arps, Sue Grey etc. There are others but hopefully they've moved on. There was one local demented clown who travelled to Wellington to arrest Andrew Little.

I blame Jenny Shipley. She's the one who closed the funny farms.

[nerrrd]

100% this. There have always been nutcases, just before the internet they had no reach other than a town square. Now every nutter has a soap box.

I’m still of a mind that the internet might actually end up destroying our civilisation.

But it’s very convenient, I’ll give it that.

[R650R]

I’m still of a mind that the internet might actually end up destroying our civilisation.

But it’s very convenient, I’ll give it that.

I’ve heard one influencer describe social media as “digital syphilis”, quite apt.

Our media has a lot to answer for. They seize on a lot of fringe views for east clickbait news articles pouring more gas on the fire.

There is one positive aspect though, hearing such views we disagree with is a sign of a healthy free democratic society. There’s several large nations where no other views are tolerated and it quite clearly doesn’t work out well for those that live there.

[pritch]

What a dag. Weird shit in weirder places. Meanwhile in Dagestan...


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/29/mob-storms-dagestan-airport-in-search-of-jewish-passengers-from-israel

[R650R]

Oh dear the timing couldn’t be worse on this problem…

https://joannenova.com.au/2023/11/wind-turbines-scramble-the-air-force-radars-and-provide-cover-for-enemy-jets/

It seems Britains off shore wind farms are screwing up the nations air defence radars.

[pritch]

Suella Braverman the British Home Secretary who recently pronounced that being homeless was a lifestyle choice, I do not like. Jonathan Pie, though I do like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dspmCsq7ghw

[R650R]

What the Dodge????

https://www.motor1.com/news/694976/ram-1500-ramcharger-electric-truck-range-extender/amp/

From the only in America files. Dodges new EV ram is the opposite of a hybrid. It’s primarily an EV but has an optional range extender package which is an onboard 3.6L V6 engine with a 27 gallon fuel tank that is solely connected to an electrical generator.
Its ace card is that it can fast charge itself in 10mins running the petrol generator while you sit at side of road scrolling Fakebook or something.
And it can boogie HP wise as generator can supply extra angry pixies alongside the batteries efforts.
But it’s complete insanity if you want to think about any kind of logical efficiency of resources and long term maintenance costs…
You have to wonder if they are doing it in jest/cheekiness or stupidity…???
I can’t wait til we see footage of one of these in thermal runaway with a full tank of gas on board lol

[pritch]

What the Dodge????

https://www.motor1.com/news/694976/ram-1500-ramcharger-electric-truck-range-extender/amp/

From the only in America files. Dodges new EV ram is the opposite of a hybrid. It’s primarily an EV but has an optional range extender package which is an onboard 3.6L V6 engine with a 27 gallon fuel tank that is solely connected to an electrical generator.
Its ace card is that it can fast charge itself in 10mins running the petrol generator while you sit at side of road scrolling Fakebook or something.
And it can boogie HP wise as generator can supply extra angry pixies alongside the batteries efforts.
But it’s complete insanity if you want to think about any kind of logical efficiency of resources and long term maintenance costs…
You have to wonder if they are doing it in jest/cheekiness or stupidity…???
I can’t wait til we see footage of one of these in thermal runaway with a full tank of gas on board lol

That seems similar in concept to the Mazda which has an 800cc rotary running but not connected to the drive system. Its only job is to charge the battery.

[R650R]

That seems similar in concept to the Mazda which has a 800cc rotary running but not connected to the drive system. Its only job is to charge the battery.

Thanks for bringing that to our attention. It seems with usual Japanese efficiency they e implemented the idea with a bit more common sense.
Although in “petrol” mode it’s using 9L per 100km which is disssppointing as the new Mazda 6 with sky active engine is getting near or better than motorcycle fuel economy.

I wonder if this is how govts and companies will skirt around the impracticality of a full ev world.
It’s still introducing a secondary manufacturing and complexity issue, more build resources etc
Time will tell how it all plays out..,,

[R650R]

The things people will pay money for….

https://essentialsnz.com/collections/remy-aillaud

Story in stuff about kid starting successful business. After a bit of googling yep there’s a rich mum or dad in background with rich friends to help things get started “ but anyone can do it”….

So next time you have Dante’s inferno in mancave with spilt petrol don’t throw away that used extinguisher. Print a high end brand name on it and its “art”.

[pritch]

A nineteen year old male seeking Internet glory dreamed up a "prank" whereby he assaulted random strangers in a park. His friend filmed it and they uploaded it to TikTok. He's now looking at fifteen years in the big house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAyMLx427a4&t=41

[george formby]

A nineteen year old male seeking Internet glory dreamed up a "prank" whereby he assaulted random strangers in a park. His friend filmed it and they uploaded it to TikTok. He's now looking at fifteen years in the big house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAyMLx427a4&t=41

Another dude with a similar modus operandi ended up getting shot. Initially the shooter was going to be prosecuted but the prankster ended up in the dock.

I was listening to a podcast by a Scottish musician the other day and he recounted how he was bailed up in a Glasgow park by a teen with a kitchen knife wanting his money and phone. His response was to chase him around the park and give him a bit of boot.

I'm amazed "Mr Everyone Makes Mistakes" didn't get a good hiding off someone.

[R650R]

This is priceless coming straight from YouTube itself lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MkX-DAzl3Y

[Ocean1]

Oh dear the timing couldn’t be worse on this problem…

https://joannenova.com.au/2023/11/wind-turbines-scramble-the-air-force-radars-and-provide-cover-for-enemy-jets/

It seems Britains off shore wind farms are screwing up the nations air defence radars.

A well known issue, that was the reason initial resource consent was declined. I'm surprised they eventually got the go ahead.

[R650R]

It seems like some don’t understand how democracy, govt and law works.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/133391888/te-pti-mori-plans-protests-across-the-north-island-as-parliament-restarts

You can’t on one hand hold sacred an agreement reached with the crown/colonialists then on the other hand say “no allegiance to the genocidal legacy of the British Empire.

“There is no honour in the Crown. It is tainted with the blood of indigenous nations, and its throne sits at the apex of global white supremacy.”

I suspect they will have no problem
swearing allegiance next time their in a coalition with labour and need to go to the governor general for approval to form a govt.
You’re either a functioning participant in democracy or not. You can’t be half in half out and throwing a tantrum when there’s ideas you don’t like.The original title of the protest says it all really. Stuff must be desperate to restore journalistic credibility by reporting that instead of quietly deleting that bit.
Someone should remind them that even us pakeha are still legal subjects of the British commonwealth and abide by their laws and decrees(governor general has to approve all our laws) even if we disagree with royals behaviour or policies.
And anyone who’s been to Britain will tell you it has to be one the most racially and culturally diverse countries in western world.To say it’s a centre of white supremacy is joke of week.

[Pursang]

You’re either a functioning participant in democracy or not. You can’t be half in half out and throwing a tantrum when there’s ideas you don’t like.

I often fail to agree with R650R but this is GOLD!

[R650R]

Shane Jones seems last straight talking man out there. Packer of course doesn’t like what he says and try’s to call him a bully. Typical lefty response. I fail to see where he used threat of harm or anything else.And who would know that the image of two pistols is “ just modern cultural art”.

I think the sublteness of Jones Sinn Fein line is completely lost on the target


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrydTl0964c&pp=ygUIb25lIG5ld3M%3D

[sugilite]

The Maori thing is complex, and cannot be assigned to the left wing basket imo. some things certainly amount to aparthied, but it is really hazy because of the past, and some of it quite recent.

What is spectacularly stupid is to go after Maori rights right at the beginning of their cycle in power - like REALLY stupid. These protests are just starting, they will get much rowdier and louder.
The morons should have waited until at least their 2nd term.
Morons.

[Grumph]

The Maori thing is complex, and cannot be assigned to the left wing basket imo. some things certainly amount to aparthied, but it is really hazy because of the past, and some of it quite recent.

What is spectacularly stupid is to go after Maori rights right at the beginning of their cycle in power - like REALLY stupid. These protests are just starting, they will get much rowdier and louder.
The morons should have waited until at least their 2nd term.
Morons.

Won't be a second term. Coaliion will fall apart.

[R650R]

The Maori thing is complex, and cannot be assigned to the left wing basket imo. some things certainly amount to aparthied, but it is really hazy because of the past, and some of it quite recent.

What is spectacularly stupid is to go after Maori rights right at the beginning of their cycle in power - like REALLY stupid. These protests are just starting, they will get much rowdier and louder.
The morons should have waited until at least their 2nd term.
Morons.

Just what Maori rights do you think are going to be taken away??? Luxon was right to say he doesnÂ’t know what this protest is about. Yes a lot of bad stuff happened in the past and itÂ’s National who signed some of the biggest settlements ever.
As far as I can tell they are just upset that National won and the free ride with labour is gone.
Despite being 17% of population they only got 3% of vote. That tells you a lot of Maori likely voted for Labour and the Greens.
I think a lot of Maori will be embarrassed by this commotion about nothing
Today Maori have equal rights as any other nz citizen and in three years time they will still have same rights.
We have a rapidly aging population with a poor health system. Labour tried to bring in a race based que jumping system and people wonÂ’t be forgetting that in a hurry.Never mind trying to give away the water infrastructure that we already paid forÂ….

[pete376403]

We have a rapidly aging population with a poor health system. Labour tried to bring in a race based que jumping system and people wonÂ’t be forgetting that in a hurry.Never mind trying to give away the water infrastructure that we already paid forÂ….

Leaving aside the "Giving away the water infrastructure" dog whistle, Three Waters was an acknowledgement that the problem is now too big for local bodies to manage on their own. The proposal was howled down and, as expected, this is the result: https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/12/02/watercare-govt-must-guarantee-debt-or-users-will-pay-the-price/. Next step - sell the water to any of the large overseas companies that are just waiting around like vultures

[pritch]

As far as I can tell they are just upset that National won and the free ride with labour is gone.


Umm I think Seymour's plan to revisit the treaty may have something to do with it.

[R650R]

Umm I think Seymour's plan to revisit the treaty may have something to do with it.

In an effort to buy votes Jacinda waved the treaty wand and sprinkled fairy dust everywhere without taking time to consult the country about what it all mean. Govt depts and media instructed to take into account the treaty etc. well I’m sure they were already meeting their relevant obligations before that. Anyway it’s created a climate of confusion about just what influence the treaty should have.

All David asking for at the moment is for the country to sit down and study what does the treaty say and what does it mean for all. Because you have an English version and a Maori version and there are discrepancies in the translation/understanding of what it says. This kinda makes sense as if you’ve ever read older literature you’ll find even in English 100 years ago people spoke and write quite differently.

The activists out there are making out like it’s going to be ripped up but that will never happen. It’s about gaining an accurate understanding of what the contract (treaty) intended for both people’s.

[R650R]

Leaving aside the "Giving away the water infrastructure" dog whistle, Three Waters was an acknowledgement that the problem is now too big for local bodies to manage on their own. The proposal was howled down and, as expected, this is the result: https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/12/02/watercare-govt-must-guarantee-debt-or-users-will-pay-the-price/. Next step - sell the water to any of the large overseas companies that are just waiting around like vultures

I love the dog whistle insult, it shows the other person has no proper counter to the statement.
Winston won’t let them sell the water.
Well likely get public/private partnership joint ventures to get roads built but you won’t see water sold off I mean we can’t even agree yet who owns it…
BTW labour was one of the biggest sellers of state assets.

[R650R]

Another wet bus ticket sentence for taking a life.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/133398524/drinkdriver-who-fatally-crashed-into-cyclist-sentenced-to-home-detention

No mention of the employers obligation here hopefully work safe has a go at them. Obviously no fatigue management or random drug checks going on.

[neels]

Another wet bus ticket sentence for taking a life.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/133398524/drinkdriver-who-fatally-crashed-into-cyclist-sentenced-to-home-detention

No mention of the employers obligation here hopefully work safe has a go at them. Obviously no fatigue management or random drug checks going on.
But he said he's really sorry, and went along to some counselling, so that makes it all better.

[pete376403]

I love the dog whistle insult, it shows the other person has no proper counter to the statement.
Winston won’t let them sell the water.
Well likely get public/private partnership joint ventures to get roads built but you won’t see water sold off I mean we can’t even agree yet who owns it…
BTW labour was one of the biggest sellers of state assets.

1/ Who was planning on "giving away" the water and to whom? But thats a sure fire way to rile up the rednecks, so, dog whistle.
2/ That assumes Winston will still be there
3/ P/P partnerships like the one tht did Transmission Guly? Huge cost overruns, delays, major reworks, still not complete, etc. Sounds good.
4/ Labour asset sales under the direction of Douglas/Prebble, the founders of ACT, your "Davids" (are you really on first name terms?) spiritual leaders

[pritch]

1/ Who was planning on "giving away" the water and to whom?


Some of our more inbred local councils apparently. IIRC Ashburton sell water to China at a very fvourable rate. Favourable for China.
The Canterbury plains used to have some of the highest quality water in the country, but somebody thought it was a good idea to put dairy farms on the plains.
Ah well, it was nice while it lasted.

[pritch]

And TIME magazine's person of the year is... Taylor Swift. The MAGA crowd are not pleased. Normally a pop star wouldn't upset them but she said publicly that people should register to vote and tens of thousands of people did. Although she had long kept her political views private, more recent comments indicate she leans left.

Ms Swift's music has never graced my turntable. I know she managed to piss Kanye West off some years ago and probably Trump more recently. Kanye West is another artist I've never heard. It's OK I'm mostly stuck in the 70s and I like it there.

A social media commentator recently received a communication questioning whether any heed should be paid to the political opinions of Taylor Swift and Pink. The communication referred to both as teeny boppers. Ms Swift is mid thirties. Ms Pink is mid/late forties. Presumably they are old enough to have opinions.

[jim.cox]

A social media commentator recently received a communication questioning whether any heed should be paid to the political opinions of ...

Typical Fascist behaviour - your opinion only counts if it is EXACTLY the same as theirs

[R650R]

Typical Fascist behaviour - your opinion only counts if it is EXACTLY the same as theirs

Sounds like the last six years of our lives…

[pete376403]

Some of our more inbred local councils apparently. IIRC Ashburton sell water to China at a very fvourable rate. Favourable for China.
The Canterbury plains used to have some of the highest quality water in the country, but somebody thought it was a good idea to put dairy farms on the plains.
Ah well, it was nice while it lasted.

Happening all over the place. As National decided no-one "owns" water, no one can sell it. Councils are charging fees for resource consent and so on but the takers are getting the water free of charge eg "In this case, consent to bottle and export 580m litres of water would cost the company around $2000 a year, the price of a resource consent monitoring fee."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/112321733/chinese-water-giant-nongfu-spring-had-a-rocky-road-to-setting-up-in-new-zealand

[R650R]

Nothing lasts forever… Someone’s done the maths (a this is from a pro ev outfit)and by 2040 the worldwide grid needs 80 million km of new or replacement transmission lines to meet the demand.
Guess we won’t be stopping digging big holes in the ground in a hurry.

https://www.iea.org/news/lack-of-ambition-and-attention-risks-making-electricity-grids-the-weak-link-in-clean-energy-transitions

[pritch]

In an effort to buy votes Jacinda waved the treaty wand and sprinkled fairy dust everywhere without taking time to consult the country about what it all mean. Govt depts and media instructed to take into account the treaty etc. well I’m sure they were already meeting their relevant obligations before that. Anyway it’s created a climate of confusion about just what influence the treaty should have.


I know Jacinta is your bogeyman but was nowt to do with her. When I was still working the treaty program was in full effect. For instance teachers were assessed on how they implemented the treaty in the classroom - whatever that means. That was when John Key was PM.

[pritch]

Apparently only 29% of Americans are in favour of teaching Arabic numerals in schools. At least that might explain how Trump got elected.
The depressing part is that judging by what I see on Xitter, NZ may not do *that* much better in such a poll.

[Grumph]

Apparently only 29% of Americans are in favour of teaching Arabic numerals in schools. At least that might explain how Trump got elected.
The depressing part is that judging by what I see on Xitter, NZ may not do *that* much better in such a poll.

Should have come with an explanation of what arabic numerals were.

But it's all part of the whole. When Trump is back in charge as Caesar, you can expect to see Roman numerals come back.

[R650R]

https://joannenova.com.au/2023/12/the-chinese-communist-party-linked-to-funding-for-climate-activists-in-the-us-and-uk/

The Chinese Communist Party just wants to save the Earth, right?
Even though China is the largest single user of fossil fuels on Earth, for some reason The Energy Foundation China — an NGO dedicated to worrying about carbon emissions — spent nearly $4 million working on reducing US emissions instead of Sino ones. They also spent some undisclosed amount helping the Grantham Research Institute in London last year. So we have donors in a developing country giving generously to the US and UK because the rich first world is too poor to fund their own environmental philanthropy groups, right?

More profits and power for China
China controls the rare metals market, builds the wind turbines and solar panels, and now also the EV’s. Obviously, on a pure self-serving business level, the CCP would be crazy if they weren’t amplifying Green fantasia in the West in order to sabotage the competition. And the idea of undermining energy security and the general industrial power base of the West might also appeal to CCP leaders. And hypothetically, if it did, what would stop it happening — investigative reporting from The ABC or the BBC? As if.

[R650R]

Wow NZ hottest day on record inconveniently about 20 years before global warming…

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/canterbury/301007474/nzs-hottest-day-ever-melted-roads-workers-striked-and-it-killed-26000-chickens

[pete376403]

Wow NZ hottest day on record inconveniently about 20 years before global warming…

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/canterbury/301007474/nzs-hottest-day-ever-melted-roads-workers-striked-and-it-killed-26000-chickens

Really? Scientists generally regard the later part of the 19th century as the point at which human activity started influencing the climate. But the new study brings that date forward to the 1830s.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/scientists-clarify-starting-point-for-human-caused-climate-change/

[pritch]

Wow NZ hottest day on record inconveniently about 20 years before global warming…

It is commonly observed that people opposed to making any adjustments to mitigate the effects of climate change tend not to understand the difference between the words 'weather' and 'climate.' Thus when its snowing, in a place where it normally snows at that time of year, they will often point at the snow and ask what happened to global warming. Or they might point to a hot day in Canterbury.

Weather can be misleading, people in New York may have had cause to wonder as they can now suffer full blown blizzards. This could lead the 'weathermen' to think the weather is getting colder. What has actually happened is that climate change has caused the weather patterns that previously remained over the Arctic to break up and become mobile. Places that previously didn't normally suffer blizzards now can. That change is life threatening in places where large numbers of people are sleeping rough.

[pritch]

The Christmas spirit was lacking. And in another instance the kid was so pissed off about his presents he shot his mother.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPgLTtczgSc

[R650R]

Weather can be misleading, people in New York may have had cause to wonder as they can now suffer full blown blizzards. This could lead the 'weathermen' to think the weather is getting colder. What has actually happened is that climate change has caused the weather patterns that previously remained over the Arctic to break up and become mobile. Places that previously didn't normally suffer blizzards now can. That change is life threatening in places where large numbers of people are sleeping rough.

If one cares to research outside the narrow window of history that the mainstream media and “science” selectively use we find New York is no stranger to snow blizzards in fact in 1888 they suffered Americas greatest snow disaster ever to this day!!!

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/the-blizzard-of-1888-americas-greatest-snow-disaster

New York’s Central Park has seen only 4.8 inches of snow during winter 2019-20 as of March 12. With no snow in the forecast, it is possible this winter will end up with the fourth lowest snow total at Central Park in its 152 years of recordkeeping. It’s hard to believe that this week marks the 132nd anniversary of New York’s—and America’s—worst blizzard on record.

Few storms are as iconic as the “Blizzard of ‘88”. It was the deadliest, snowiest, and most unusual winter storm in American annals. No storm of similar magnitude has occurred anywhere in the contiguous United States since. Over 400 perished, including 200 in New York City alone, many literally buried in drifts in downtown Manhattan. On March 13, 1888, the temperature in New York fell to 6°F during the storm—still the coldest temperature ever measured there so late in the season.

[husaberg]

Wow NZ hottest day on record inconveniently about 20 years before global warming…

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/canterbury/301007474/nzs-hottest-day-ever-melted-roads-workers-striked-and-it-killed-26000-chickens

yet the two hottest years on record thus just happen to be 2021 and 2022.

[pritch]

If one cares to research outside the narrow window of history that the mainstream media and “science” selectively use we find New York is no stranger to snow blizzards in fact in 1888 they suffered Americas greatest snow disaster ever to this day!!!

https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/the-blizzard-of-1888-americas-greatest-snow-disaster

New York’s Central Park has seen only 4.8 inches of snow during winter 2019-20 as of March 12. With no snow in the forecast, it is possible this winter will end up with the fourth lowest snow total at Central Park in its 152 years of recordkeeping. It’s hard to believe that this week marks the 132nd anniversary of New York’s—and America’s—worst blizzard on record.

Few storms are as iconic as the “Blizzard of ‘88”. It was the deadliest, snowiest, and most unusual winter storm in American annals. No storm of similar magnitude has occurred anywhere in the contiguous United States since. Over 400 perished, including 200 in New York City alone, many literally buried in drifts in downtown Manhattan. On March 13, 1888, the temperature in New York fell to 6°F during the storm—still the coldest temperature ever measured there so late in the season.

Again. That is weather rather than climate. One blizzard does not a climate make.

[roogazza]

If I remember correctly South Australia 1990 or there abouts, the record was broken at 46.4 C.

It took two years really, to get acclimatised to Adel from NZ . you'd get 40-42 on a Summer's day. Overnight it would be 35 all night and then by 0730 in the morning it'd be back to 40.
(A coolish winters day there is 13 or 14 ...... )

I was running and playing squash in those days, (every day !!!!) Fit as a Buck Rat !!!!! :confused::laugh:

[R650R]

Again. That is weather rather than climate. One blizzard does not a climate make.

You could do well for society to educate the mainstream media and science of that Factas the latest “ hottest day/coldest day, flood, drought, bushfire” is always screamed about in hysteria as evidence of climate change.

Farmers in Australia sold off their livestock early after burning hot droughts forecast by the experts, instead they got biblical rainfall….

https://joannenova.com.au/2023/12/the-bom-predicted-a-hot-dry-summer-right-before-the-flooding-rains-came/

[pete376403]

You could do well for society to educate the mainstream media and science of that Factas the latest “ hottest day/coldest day, flood, drought, bushfire” is always screamed about in hysteria as evidence of climate change.

Farmers in Australia sold off their livestock early after burning hot droughts forecast by the experts, instead they got biblical rainfall….

https://joannenova.com.au/2023/12/the-bom-predicted-a-hot-dry-summer-right-before-the-flooding-rains-came/

A few posts back you were quoting the "hysterical media" as evidence that you think that climate change is a hoax.

"Wow NZ hottest day on record inconveniently about 20 years before global warming…

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/cante...26000-chickens"

[R650R]

A few posts back you were quoting the "hysterical media" as evidence that you think that climate change is a hoax.

"Wow NZ hottest day on record inconveniently about 20 years before global warming…

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/cante...26000-chickens"

And There in lays my mission, using their own lies to expose there lies with a good does of sarcasm.

Anyhow back to topic Diahatsu is going gangbusters to outdo VW in auto scandals.The Toyota owned subsidiary has been faking crash test data for about 30 years. Some of these cars have been sold under Toyota and other big name brands.And not just faking but submitting extra reinforced cars for testing only.

https://jalopnik.com/daihatsu-admits-it-forged-crash-test-results-for-30-yea-1851129221

[husaberg]

And There in lays my mission, using their own lies to expose there lies

Their.....
but nice attempt at misdirection, following from he obvious loss with what you originally posted, that bit where you confused one day's result against decades of data from scientist that proved you wrong.
But seeing as you decided to say about lies, Tell us about when you posted about all these covid cures with hydroxychloroquine also how mask wearing was a conspiracy how there no chance of dying from covid etc etc etc etc etc....


There’s two ways this pans out... the virus magically mostly disappears and we return to some form of normal rampant consumerism after being tattooed/implanted with bill gates digital ID2020 social/vaccine passport
Certificate
Of
Vaccination
I
D
Covid
Or this virus turns out to be as nasty as they say it is. Then we have at least three years living under full blown communism to control spread til it naturally mutates itself out of existence as all virus strains do. This will be a major worldwide depression and everyone will be off to workcamps in exchange for food as all western economies will be crippled by the early welfare dolled out to “keep the economy going”
One thing Is for sure either way, given the chance of a crisis govt will pass new laws and taxes to “save us”.... next election will be very interesting

The media are tripping over themselves trying to solve the mystery of why Africans aren't dying from covid as badly as the west.
Africans routinely take a cheap safe anti malaria drug invented in n 1960's called hydroxychloroquine....
Scooby Doo would solve that puzzle faster



odd how you never respond to how inept these quotes now make you look....




Your mission is apparently to narcissistic troll.

[pritch]

Deja vu all over again?

Nimrata Randhawa better known now as Nikki Haley is doing quite well in the polls so suddenly her eligibility to run for president is being called into question. This is straight out of the play book Trump tried to use against Obama. The "news" is being circulated that she was not actually born in the USA. Her parents are from India but she was born in South Carolina.

Interestingly she has previously campaigned for the repealing of birthright citizenship. The very mechanism that made her a citizen. Talk about pulling the ladder up behind you.

[roogazza]

Deja vu all over again?

Nimrata Randhawa better known now as Nikki Haley is doing quite well in the polls so suddenly her eligibility to run for president is being called into question. This is straight out of the play book Trump tried to use against Obama. The "news" is being circulated that she was not actually born in the USA. Her parents are from India but she was born in South Carolina.

Interestingly she has previously campaigned for the repealing of birthright citizenship. The very mechanism that made her a citizen. Talk about pulling the ladder up behind you.

I wonder if she's any good at a nice Buttered Chicken and garlic Naan ? :banana: :lol:

[pritch]

I wonder if she's any good at a nice Buttered Chicken and garlic Naan ? :banana: :lol:

Dunno but I had lamb nawabi with garlic naan a coupla nights ago.

[pritch]

There is an amazing story taking place in Britain. For some thirty years this has been going on with no discernible action by the politicians responsible, and all major political parties have been involved. A recent docu drama on TV has boosted interest to the point something may actually be done, although it will be too late for many.

In the 1990s the Post Office purchased a new accounting system, Horizon, from Fujitsu. Almost immediately the system indicated financial discrepancies. The Brit Post Office has it's own prosecution service dating back to the days of the Royal Mail. The prosecutors attacked their work with a will. Seven hundred Post Office staff were prosecuted for theft, many were jailed, others went bankrupt from legal expenses, four committed suicide. This was all the result of a glitch in the software. Independent people were telling the politicians there must be a problem but they didn't understand software and weren't interested. Most politicians are known to be disinterested in computers or software. To make it worse Fujitsu became aware of the problem but said nothing.

This is now thought to be the biggest miscarriage of justice in British judicial history but nobody is accountable. With a few notable exceptions, such as Private Eye, media organisations have shown little interest - until now when it has appeared on TV.

One woman, responsible for the Post Office for part of the time this has been going on, was given a CBE. There is a petition with over a million signatures demanding the honour be withdrawn.

There is currently a shit ton of comment in the Brit press and on YouTube and elsewhere, fill your boots.




Afterthought: When watching the various political figures discussing this be aware that most are blaming people from a different party. Labour, Conservative, and the Lib Dems, all have politicians who are culpable. Some speakers though will attribute blame to people who were not actually involved. This story is never the less a lesson to all politicians wherever they are.

[pritch]

Drug prices in the USA tend to be very high, often double what they are in Canada. Florida has announced a plan to buy their drugs from Canada. The industry has announced that they will fight this. The companies have cause to be optimistic, they are among the biggest donors to politicians in the US.

[pzkpfw]

There is an amazing story taking place in Britain. ...

Discussion on it at skeptics forum: https://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=350973

[Berries]

This was big news when I was over there last month, mainly because a documentary series had been made and was about to be shown on the TV. Am sure if anyone is interested they should be able to track it down -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Bates_vs_The_Post_Office

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67921673

[pete376403]

This was big news when I was over there last month, mainly because a documentary series had been made and was about to be shown on the TV. Am sure if anyone is interested they should be able to track it down -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Bates_vs_The_Post_Office

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67921673


After 46 million in legal costs the group were left with only £12million, which totalled around £20,000 each, far less than some had lost. They should have been awarded costs as well.

[husaberg]

Drug prices in the USA tend to be very high, often double what they are in Canada. Florida has announced a plan to buy their drugs from Canada. The industry has announced that they will fight this. The companies have cause to be optimistic, they are among the biggest donors to politicians in the US.

i could be wrong I thought it was because Canada had a system like pharmac in NZ?
The nats and Act dont like Phrmac...

[pritch]

i could be wrong I thought it was because Canada had a system like pharmac in NZ?
The nats and Act dont like Phrmac...

That may be the case but the problem in the US is basically unbridled profiteering. There was the case of the notorious Martin Shkreli and his 5000% price increase. The maunfcturerers of insulin introduced massive price increases which lead to people rationing their insulin - fatally. The manufacturer of Epi Pens is another example, big price increases and the pens apparently only come packaged in pairs so you have to buy two.

Some Americans who live near the Canadian border will get their prescriptions filled in Canada, they may also enjoy a Cuban cigar while there.

[pritch]

In Britain the match of the day is the blame game. As already suggested some of those casting stones live in glass houses.

The Post Office says they will compensate the victims of injustice but they have also employed one of the highest priced lawfirms in London to fight every case.

Since the problem with the Fujitsu software became apparent about five years ago, Fujitsu have been awarded further government contracts worth almost four billion quid.
Good luck with that.

[pritch]

Saw this item and thought we had another Mayor Brown, but no. The letter was in reply to a sovereign citizen. Apparently we have a growing number of these deluded twats in this country. I first became aware of the local variant during the protest at Parliament. They were claiming they could park indefinitely wherever they liked because of Admiralty Law.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/301039932/mayor-has-no-regrets-over-signing-off-email-go-f-yourself

So I'm sympathetic to the mayor, although he can't compete with the letter writing creativity of then Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger. Ernie wrote a reply in which the first letter of each line read:

F
U
C
K

Y
O
U

[pritch]

Haven't read this up so my details are sparse. Texas installed traps in the river comprised of drums and razor wire with the intention of seriously damaging or drowning people trying to cross the border. This was appealed to the Supreme Court. That Republican super majority Supreme Court, which has now ruled the traps are illegal.

Republicans are feeling utterly betrayed and are crying in their beer. It's a good day.

[pritch]

Florida is where woke goes to die sayeth Governor DeSantis. He went to war with Disney over their policy that their staff had a right to privacy. He went to war with Budweiser when they put out an ad featuring a trans person.

In his withdrawal speech he incorrectly attributed a quote to Churchill. The quote was actually from an old Budweiser ad.


https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/politics/desantis-fake-churchill-quote-original-trace-1930s-budweiser/67-e85ad6df-8c81-4658-a85d-1f01d7c8e48c

[pritch]

Y'all might remember the fuss bout litter boxes being provided in schools for kids identifying as animals - furries. This was a hoax of course, but was adopted enthusiastically by some of the more inbred state and local politicians in the US.

An Oklahoma state representative has introduced a bill banning litter boxes in schools. If the parents don't come and get their kid, he wants animal control to do it.

The Yanks really do need to take more care over who they are electing to office.

https://nypost.com/2024/01/17/news/lawmaker-proposes-bill-banning-furries-in-oklahoma-schools/

[R650R]

Haven't read this up so my details are sparse. Texas installed traps in the river comprised of drums and razor wire with the intention of seriously damaging or drowning people trying to cross the border. This was appealed to the Supreme Court. That Republican super majority Supreme Court, which has now ruled the traps are illegal.

Republicans are feeling utterly betrayed and are crying in their beer. It's a good day.

I thought this was ai fake news at first but Yexas as deployed troops to secure the border.

In any society about 10% have the qualities at various levels of thugs/bullues/narcissistic traits etc. About 1% may be or have sociopathic traits that is they are capable or nasty stuff or even being serial killers etc. The border problem has progressed to 4.8million unchecked people arriving illegally every year now, that’s nearly the population of NZ. And even here we prob have several thousand people that we’d say yeah nah to if they were t actually born and raised here.
So America is being invaded by at least 48,000 people capable of causing serious harm. It is known that Hamas has a presence in Mexico and after the Middle East incident the picture of cheap labour via slack borders has changed with the prospect of terrorist sleeper cells walking into the country.

BTW you won’t see any mantraps in this video looks like a well practised art


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBqRDfSocNc&pp=ygUTSW52YXNpb24gb2YgYW1lcmljYQ%3D%3D

[pritch]

It is known that Hamas has a presence in Mexico

It is? By whom? And how much electric puha had been consumed prior to this knowledge occurring.

Governor Abbott is, to use the words of one of his cronies, a sick son of a bitch.

Recently the Mexican border people notified the US Border Patrol that there was a woman with two children in trouble in the river. The Border Patrol attended the location but Abbotts National Guard would not let them access the river and the three people died.

It would pay Abbott to remember that he has control of the Texas National Guard only as long as Biden permits it. Biden can take control at any time and presidents have used this power previously.

[Grumph]

It would pay Abbott to remember that he has control of the Texas National Guard only as long as Biden permits it. Biden can take control at any time and presidents have used this power previously.

Interestingly, there's a bill being worked on in the Senate which would take some of the President's power to use the Guard away. It's being done as a potential stopper to Trump sending the Guard to democrat controlled cities as he has threatened previously. It's actually either the second or third attempt to get something similar through.
What has gone through is a bill requiring a majority in the Senate and Congress before the US can withdraw from NATO.
There are some guardrails being put in place.

[neels]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/350157756/why-us-target-workers-were-fired-buying-stanley-cups (http://https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/350157756/why-us-target-workers-were-fired-buying-stanley-cups)

Seriously, people 'swarming stores' and losing their jobs over buying a cup....

It's a cup....

Have we actually reached the point where people are driven into a fear of missing out frenzy to get the latest fashionable...cup....just because they've seen it on the interwebs :facepalm:

[pritch]

Seriously, people 'swarming stores' and losing their jobs over buying a cup....

It's a cup....



Beats me. That cup was US$50.00 retail apparently and flippers were advertising them online for US$299. A fool and his money?

[pritch]

At a meeting of Colorado Republican Congressional candidates they were asked if they'd been arrested. Six held up their hands. A seventh was not at the meeting because he has current problems with law enforcement. So that's seven out of ten have arrest records - and they call themselves the party of law and order.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN-5-AK9fO8

[R650R]

Typical govt trying to get more blood out of a stone….

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350161504/owners-may-pay-demolition-homes-lost-gabrielle

I can see their argument, after all no one is ever supposed to profit from an insurance payout. But it ignores being kicked off/bought out from your own bit of land(no matter what culture) and the trauma from the floods and drawn out compensation process.
Can anyone say if they did this after quakes???
Its even worse when some of the flooding is due to years of neglect in planning and maintenance of flood control works and ignorance of history.

[pritch]

Can anyone say if they did this after quakes???


Can't answer that, but I was told to allow for clearing the section in my home insurance valuation.

[neels]

Can't answer that, but I was told to allow for clearing the section in my home insurance valuation.
Post Chch earthquakes, the insurance payouts were for full rebuild cost, so therefore in many cases far exceeded the value of the existing house.

The amount paid when red zoned and land sold to the govt was less the demo cost, as ownership of the structure passed to the insurance company and it was their responsibility to get rid of it.

Have the insurance people now found a way to get out of it being their problem by paying the full amount to the owners and leaving responsibility with them, in which case it's their cost not the councils?

Many people have objections to spending their insurance money on what it was intended for.

[Laava]

Heaven forbid people would take their insurance payout and then just sell as is! That would never happen!

[Grumph]

Heaven forbid people would take their insurance payout and then just sell as is! That would never happen!


It's not the deed itself that is the problem. It's the subsequent lying about what happened and what was done to the property.

I struck an example where a relative of my wife died and in the course of sorting the estate it became apparent that another family member had ripped her off when doing quake repairs. The paperwork had vanished in the short time following the death but looking at the payout and what she'd paid for out of it, something didn't add up.

Buying a house here where the owner has taken a payout and sorted it themselves is Russian roulette played with properties.

[Laava]

It's not the deed itself that is the problem. It's the subsequent lying about what happened and what was done to the property.

I struck an example where a relative of my wife died and in the course of sorting the estate it became apparent that another family member had ripped her off when doing quake repairs. The paperwork had vanished in the short time following the death but looking at the payout and what she'd paid for out of it, something didn't add up.

Buying a house here where the owner has taken a payout and sorted it themselves is Russian roulette played with properties.
Yeah, I have family members that moved to Chch from Wanaka into rental accom. It was all freshly painted, all white, and looked good but black mould started growing everywhere within weeks. They had signed a longish term lease and so had to break it when it turned out that the liquifaction was still hard up underneath the floorboards. The house had been through an insurance claim, but it was sold without having the full remedial works done. I know that there were and prob still are a lot of stories…

[pritch]

Here we have the moment FOX decided global warming wasn't a hoax. Climate change is indeed a threat. And Taylor Swift is responsible.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/touchdown-taylor-swift-lands-baltimore-ahead-afc-championship-jet-tons-c02-emissions

[R650R]

The Green Party has announced today what they will announce tommorow. Priceless.

“Chlöe Swarbrick to announce co-leadership bid

At 11am tomorrow Chlöe Swarbrick will announce her intention to run for the Green Party co-leadership.

Nominations opened yesterday to fill the role of outgoing co-leader James Shaw who resigned on Tuesday.

Any Green Party member can put themselves forward to lead the party but even if others do, Swarbrick is the obvious choice and clear front-runner.

The candidates can be any gender thanks to a change in 2022 which shifted the co-leadership model from ‘one man, one woman’ to one woman plus one leader of any gender - and one of the leaders must be Māori. ”

[pritch]

The candidates can be any gender thanks to a change in 2022 which shifted the co-leadership model from ‘one man, one woman’ to one woman plus one leader of any gender - and one of the leaders must be Māori. ”

Doesn't that just sum up the Greens. They sit round in sandals drinking carrot juice dreaming up ways to make themselves less effective. Twats!

[pete376403]

r - and one of the leaders must be Māori. ”

If a person can decide their gender by how they "feel" at the time then so can racial blend. Both Winston and Seymour can claim to be maori to some degree, and how can it be proved or disproved? Will DNA testing be required?

[pritch]

Some people have found the new government's stance on smoking to be distinctly strange. It seems we were leading the world in kicking the habit and we threw that away to help pay for a tax cut.

The attachment may remove some of the smoke and mirrors. (Don't click on the YouTube linky thingy it doesn't work.)

[Laava]

Am I being overly cynical in thinking that Phillip Morris and The other outfit are hoping to get full control of the vaping industry supply before relinquishing too much on the tobacco?

[pritch]

Am I being overly cynical in thinking that Phillip Morris and The other outfit are hoping to get full control of the vaping industry supply before relinquishing too much on the tobacco?

It could be. It was truly startling to hear an Associate Health Minister express concern about the tobacco industry being on its knees. But it does explain a few things.

[R650R]

If a person can decide their gender by how they "feel" at the time then so can racial blend. Both Winston and Seymour can claim to be maori to some degree, and how can it be proved or disproved? Will DNA testing be required?

That doesn’t concern me at all and I doubt either plans to join the Green Party. I think it was during the Helen Clark era that the whole how much thing became taboo to even mention so you either were or were not.
All I’m ever concerned with is what is someone contribution to society or their policies.

[R650R]

Some people have found the new government's stance on smoking to be distinctly strange. It seems we were leading the world in kicking the habit and we threw that away to help pay for a tax cut.

The attachment may remove some of the smoke and mirrors. (Don't click on the YouTube linky thingy it doesn't work.)

We are now entering a new era of personal choice. I used to dislike Ziggy smoke a bit but I hate the sickly sweet odour of these lolly flavour vape fumes.The previous govt allowed vape to become a thing when it had chance to stop it starting, its health effects are going to be just as bad as smoking long term.

[roogazza]

Doesn't that just sum up the Greens. They sit round in sandals drinking carrot juice dreaming up ways to make themselves less effective. Twats!

Haha love it pritch !!!

[Laava]

Some people have found the new government's stance on smoking to be distinctly strange. It seems we were leading the world in kicking the habit and we threw that away to help pay for a tax cut.

The attachment may remove some of the smoke and mirrors. (Don't click on the YouTube linky thingy it doesn't work.)
And also, coincidentally, turns out that Luxons sister in law is Trade and Marketing coordinatior for British American tobacco.
All smacks of corruption if you ask me…

[pete376403]

And also, coincidentally, turns out that Luxons sister in law is Trade and Marketing coordinatior for British American tobacco.
All smacks of corruption if you ask me…

All of which the media will ignore while getting hysterical over alleged (not yet proved nor convicted) shoplifting.

[R650R]

And also, coincidentally, turns out that Luxons sister in law is Trade and Marketing coordinatior for British American tobacco.
All smacks of corruption if you ask me…

Given that we completely banned ciggie advertising along time ago it’s completely irrelevant then.

It could make entertaining reading if we compile a complete list of all politicians in-laws and who they work for. But despite six years of the Stalinda regime I don’t think even her lot managed to collect that type of data on the citizens.

A lot of the greens would have family perhaps working g for DOC, would it be corrupt for them to increase DOC wages or conditions.

Labour massively increased public service sector, most of whom living in Wellington usually vote for the incumbent govt to keep their jobs, that’s like buying voters with taxpayer money.

[R650R]

All of which the media will ignore while getting hysterical over alleged (not yet proved nor convicted) shoplifting.

Well latest article other day said it’s $10k worth so quite serious. The damning video evidence along with her and her employers public confession will seal it. By playing the mental health card as a reason they confessed the crime as they had to qualify WHY the offending occurred. You do not offer a reason why something happened if you’re claiming innocence.

Her only chance is if a procedural error occurs in the collecting or presentation of evidence in court which happens surprisingly often.

I still think the bigger scandal is a green who claims to represent conservation of resources and equality for the poor is even setting foot in a high end fashion store selling items that are likely worn once or twice then forgotten about. It could be argued that women’s fashion industry is perhaps one of the biggest and most wasteful users of resources.

[nerrrd]

Apple Vision Pro and the idea of ‘spatial computing’, basically integrating the real world with a responsive visual computer interface in real time…


https://youtu.be/UvkgmyfMPks?si=rrMkbs1vAUKvq5mr

Clunky to the point of ridiculousness so far, but preferable I think to Elon’s approach of actually rummaging around in people’s brains.

If this is where the tech sector wants to go, the future is looking even more dystopian to me…

[Berries]

I gave up the fags when the price got stupid and I have put on about 15kg of pure lard since. Shirts don't fit, trousers don't fit, bike jacket is busting zips.

If the good old Nats can get the price of a pack of B&H down to a tenner then they can have my vote, will save me fucking around with gym membership.

:doobey:

[husaberg]

I gave up the fags when the price got stupid and I have put on about 15kg of pure lard since. Shirts don't fit, trousers don't fit, bike jacket is busting zips.

If the good old Nats can get the price of a pack of B&H down to a tenner then they can have my vote, will save me fucking around with gym membership.

:doobey:
You should move to Russia you could get 3 packs of Marlboro cigarettes for under $10 nz.
Vodkas about $12 nz /litre
They also offer free exercise programs in the Army.

[pritch]

They also offer free exercise programs in the Army.

The exercise programs may be brief however. Significant weight loss can be achieved by use of Ukrainian pyrotechnics though.

[pritch]

One for the history books. The Republicans held a vote to impeach Secretary Mayorkas(?), Secretary of Homeland Security. They said he hasn't been doing his job as too many illegals were crossing the border. Some irony is apparent as this current congress has done very little work themselves. I did read that in the history of the US only one congress has done less. Whatever, they haven't done much.

They didn't do much in this instance either. Four Republicans voted with the Democrats and the motion was lost.

How embarrassing.

[R650R]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ztU2hoaC50&pp=ygUUamIgbWlsaXRhcnkgYW50aXF1ZXM%3D

[pritch]

Wow! Those San Francisco Forty Niners are surely bad losers. :whistle:


https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/kansas-city-chiefs-parade-shooting-02-14-24/index.html

[pritch]

This has to take the cake. A cop places a guy in the police car in cuffs and restrained. An acorn falls on the car and the cop confuses the sound with a gunshot from the car. He falls to the ground claims he is shot and empties his pistol into the car. His partner hearing the commotion empties her pistol into the car. None of bullets from either cop hits the prisoner. They should both be fired for shite marksmanship. Talk about spray and pray... The cop who mistook the acorn for a gun shot has resigned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKmnJgXyZpU



That's even more stupid than the cop who placed a woman suspect in a police car parked on a railway track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sj59BSpTQA

[R650R]

This has to take the cake. A cop places a guy in the police car in cuffs and restrained. An acorn falls on the car and the cop confuses the sound with a gunshot from the car. He falls to the ground claims he is shot and empties his pistol into the car. His partner hearing the commotion empties her pistol into the car. None of bullets from either cop hits the prisoner. They should both be fired for shite marksmanship. Talk about spray and pray... The cop who mistook the acorn for a gun shot has resigned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKmnJgXyZpU



That's even more stupid than the cop who placed a woman suspect in a police car parked on a railway track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sj59BSpTQA

There’s another new one too where cop empties mag through windscreen after woman runs him over. Also a spray and pray job as after she escapes and gets in a traffic collision up road she does not appear to be bleeding.
Donut Operator (ex cop) did a good breakdown too about the now common practice of shooting from inside the car at crims through one windscreen. Apparently it’s quite unhealthy due to micro glass shards getting in lungs and eyes but I guess that’s a little bit better than being dead.
I’m gonna have to watch the acorn job though at first I skipped as just thought it was another overkill job

[onearmedbandit]

I love Donut's breakdowns of cop shooting. He typically pulls no punches, especially when it comes to cross-fire instances or just poor training fullstop.

[onearmedbandit]

From his 'raw' channel.

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Suspects brother states - "He’s a good guy. They can’t tell me he had a machete and tried to cut people throat," said Wilkinson Alexis, the suspect's brother. "Nah, he ain’t like that."

He said his brother struggled with his mental health, and he doesn't believe what police are saying about the incident is true.

"They’re lying. Just be real about (it)... say you killed someone," Wilkinson Alexis said.

[pritch]

Just seen on Xitter. Alex Navalney died following a COVID vaccination. That’s even crazier than the usual anti vax bollox.

[neels]

Just seen on Xitter. Alex Navalney died following a COVID vaccination. That’s even crazier than the usual anti vax bollox.

That's up there with 'Jeffrey Epstein killed himself' in the bollocks explanations department.