Stupid World

[Brian d marge]

made a mistake on how the banks work ,

follow this video through , Doesnt change HOW the currency is made

but DOES change the limits on how MUCH Currency is made

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Stephen

[yokel]

Anti petrodollar oil company CEO dies in another "air accident"

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[mashman]

made a mistake on how the banks work ,

follow this video through , Doesnt change HOW the currency is made

but DOES change the limits on how MUCH Currency is made

Stephen

Great little series of vids... although you shouldn't post it here in case the scared old white men watch it and have a meltdown as their brain actually starts to work and questions the definitions that they hold so dear. Then again, there could be lulz.

[ellipsis]

...interesting little article...

http://collectivelyconscious.net/articles/why-iceland-should-be-in-the-news-but-is-not/

[bogan]

made a mistake on how the banks work ,

follow this video through , Doesnt change HOW the currency is made

but DOES change the limits on how MUCH Currency is made

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Stephen

Kinda good in parts, but they glossed over the debt aspects way too much. Money supply can only be created with a corresponding amount of debt, as they said at the end, more money supply = more debt. So in the example of govt backing the credit so it was risk free, what happens to all those who owed the bank money when to govt steps in to guarantee that credit? do they then owe the govt? and if so then it isn't going to take anything from the general populace unless valuation has changed. But perhaps more importantly, risk free credit still has the associated debt somewhere, whereas central bank money does not.

[mashman]

...interesting little article...

http://collectivelyconscious.net/articles/why-iceland-should-be-in-the-news-but-is-not/

I wonder what that constitution will look like? and it is damned funny that they haven't been in the media. However, here's an idea ;). If the people have gone this far in coming together, then why not go that little bit further and become the worlds first R.B.E. and prove that an economy will run without a financial system? In order to get the "word" out, free Sigurður Einarsson with that message. NOW them's would be real fireworks.

[mashman]

Kinda good in parts, but they glossed over the debt aspects way too much. Money supply can only be created with a corresponding amount of debt, as they said at the end, more money supply = more debt. So in the example of govt backing the credit so it was risk free, what happens to all those who owed the bank money when to govt steps in to guarantee that credit? do they then owe the govt? and if so then it isn't going to take anything from the general populace unless valuation has changed. But perhaps more importantly, risk free credit still has the associated debt somewhere, whereas central bank money does not.

I know I shouldn't. What happens is, recession, GFC, new laws/rules/regulations/standards/money, misery/suffering/poverty/job losses/waste of resources/more debt/more profit/public carrying the can ... you can also tag on war and death on to that too.

[Brian d marge]

Yeeeehaaaaaa
U.S. stocks dropped, halting a four-day rally, while the dollar advanced as the cost of living in America unexpectedly rose. Oil sank to a two-year low after an inventory report and gold fell the most in two weeks.

The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index lost 0.7 percent at 4 p.m. in New York after its biggest rally in a year yesterday. Boeing Co. (BA) plunged 4.5 percent to drag the Dow Jones Industrial Averagelower. The Stoxx Europe 600 Index rose 0.7 percent to cap its best two-day rally in 15 months. The Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index rose 0.3 percent. Gold slid 0.5 percent to settle at $1,245.50 an ounce, while crude lost 2.4 percent


The cost of living . . . . Unexpectedly . . . . Rose


Evil fkrs

[mashman]

http://snowyduck.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/why-cant-we-just-print-more-money-to-clear-country-debt-or-loan-700x350.jpg

[Scuba_Steve]

Middle Class


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyUIpgrjKUk

[mashman]

Ukraine's multibillion-dollar gas debt: Who pays? (http://rt.com/business/198080-who-pay-ukraine-gas-debt/)... cut off people's gas because of money n other money related shit. So stoopid.

[Brian d marge]

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Margret at her best.........

Stephen

[mashman]

Margret at her best.........

Stephen

lol, and the cabinet too.

[yokel]

Ottawa shooting staged false flag attack, much like the reichstag fire?
everyone has the potential to be a "Muslim convert" you know what that means

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[bogan]

Hmmm, now I want some marble...

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[Scuba_Steve]

Banking system... in animation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM

[Brian d marge]

Its the holiday season in america now . . If the sales figures are down or terminal in jan . . Im assuming a shtf senario
. . Hahahahah

[mashman]

Its the holiday season in america now . . If the sales figures are down or terminal in jan . . Im assuming a shtf senario
. . Hahahahah

Time to prepare... me archery lessons start on saturday :wari:

[Brian d marge]

Time to prepare... me archery lessons start on saturday :wari:
Wear a red head band

And remember to shout

Dont push me

A lot

Stephen

Ps check out you tube for making ur own arrows . . Ya dont want to pay too much for the tv

[mashman]

Wear a red head band

And remember to shout

Dont push me

A lot

Stephen

Ps check out you tube for making ur own arrows . . Ya dont want to pay too much for the tv

lol... I've already got the TV, and the birfday money won't spend itself (actually it will given the house full of women). Iffen I can't shoot the fuckin thing, a crossbow it'll have to be.

[Brian d marge]

lol... I've already got the TV, and the birfday money won't spend itself (actually it will given the house full of women). Iffen I can't shoot the fuckin thing, a crossbow it'll have to be.
It dont half annoy next doors cat

The fire rate of a cross bow is slow

Longbow think machine gun

Crossbow think sniper rifle

Theres a crossbow with an ar15 stock and trigger system

Stephen


Them fuzzy wuzzies dont like it up em you know . . . Dont like it up em

[yokel]

more stuff on how the banks go about their business.

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[mashman]

more stuff on how the banks go about their business.

Remember listening to Jordan Maxwell a while ago on THC (the show, not the drug). Eye opening stuff. Amazing that he keeps on going despite them czech (if memory serves) feckers that "legally" stole his website.

[mashman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fC6RP6tZ1Q

[Brian d marge]

Japan
The ultimate in mustnt grumble
The olympics is coming

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2014/10/24/olympics/negative-impact-1964-olympics-profound/#.VE8LY3OmrqB

Happened before will happen again

Abe hasnt got any room to move . .no money

So who will pay

[Akzle]

more stuff on how the banks go about their business.

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well, actually...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DT7bX-B1Mg

[yokel]

well, actually...


The banks believe they own you so they can pretty much do what they want to you.

[blue rider]

Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

In an interview with Gilbert in Göring's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/570974/20141028/new-zealand-john-key-isis-iraq.htm#.VE86DCLLfO8

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11349273

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/john-key-nz-morally-right-take-action-against-isis-6117691

http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/key-changed-views-on-iraq-after-special-briefing-2014063017

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11342821

http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/key-changed-views-on-iraq-after-special-briefing-2014063017

[Brian d marge]

The banks believe they own you so they can pretty much do what they want to you.
The sun king believe he was divine until his head came off

[Brian d marge]

Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

In an interview with Gilbert in Göring's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/570974/20141028/new-zealand-john-key-isis-iraq.htm#.VE86DCLLfO8

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11349273

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/john-key-nz-morally-right-take-action-against-isis-6117691

http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/key-changed-views-on-iraq-after-special-briefing-2014063017

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11342821

http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/key-changed-views-on-iraq-after-special-briefing-2014063017
#Onphonecantbling

[Brian d marge]

Mr key thinks

he thinks ISIS militants are "very bad people" who have gone out of control.

Ohh yes i do so agree they are very bad men . . Very very bad men

Stephen

[oldrider]

Mr key thinks

he thinks ISIS militants are "very bad people" who have gone out of control.

Ohh yes i do so agree they are very bad men . . Very very bad men

Stephen

That is what the media have told us anyway ... over and over and over and over ... but how else would we ever know? :shifty:

[Brian d marge]

That is what the media have told us anyway ... over and over and over and over ... but how else would we ever know? :shifty:

Me personally , I go and talk to Musilims .....I may not agree,,,,,,

Stephen

[mashman]

Mr key thinks

he thinks ISIS militants are "very bad people" who have gone out of control.

Ohh yes i do so agree they are very bad men . . Very very bad men

Stephen

ISIS, fighting for God.
U.S., fighting because they're being paid.

Both as bad as each other.

[Oscar]

Me personally , I go and talk to Musilims .....I may not agree,,,,,,

Stephen

Tell you what, I'll buy you a ticket to Mosul or Tikrit - you go and talk to them in person and see how you get on...

[carbonhed]

Tell you what, I'll buy you a ticket to Mosul or Tikrit - you go and talk to them in person and see how you get on...

I'd help out with the fund raising for that. Maybe we could organise a group tour?

[Brian d marge]

Tell you what, I'll buy you a ticket to Mosul or Tikrit - you go and talk to them in person and see how you get on...

loony

keep watching tv ,,,,it will soothe your savage soul

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

I'd help out with the fund raising for that. Maybe we could organise a group tour?

Here ,

Knock your self out

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Stephen

dont show tweedle dee, at his age , it could be dangerous

[Brian d marge]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/29/5196bca2594e091775b48a143da99dbf.jpg

Hell of a way to balance the books

Me i would of thought writing of a few student loans would have made more sense

[oldrider]

Stupid world = this twitter: http://www.theedge.co.nz/They-gave-a-homeless-man-a-pizza-and-what-he-does-with-it-will-shock-you/tabid/106/articleID/33750/Default.aspx

Of course the whole thing could be staged but it gets you! :weep:

[Brian d marge]

Bush family back in the whitehouse

[Brian d marge]

The fed to end QE

[mashman]

Stupid world = this twitter: http://www.theedge.co.nz/They-gave-a-homeless-man-a-pizza-and-what-he-does-with-it-will-shock-you/tabid/106/articleID/33750/Default.aspx

Of course the whole thing could be staged but it gets you! :weep:

Repost, but worth it... was passed it the other morning when I got to work, bastard.

[oldrider]

With the creation of ISIS does that mean that the West can now treat the whole Middle East the same way that Israel treats Gaza? :shifty:

Every time ISIS wriggles (judged by USA) the Western nations swoop in and bomb shit out of some place and people and call it retaliation? :rolleyes:

Sounds sorta like Israel/Gaza on steroids ... well yeah, it works for Israel so I guess it must be legal and sanctioned by the United Nations then! :mellow:

[mashman]

With the creation of ISIS does that mean that the West can now treat the whole Middle East the same way that Israel treats Gaza? :shifty:

Every time ISIS wriggles (judged by USA) the Western nations swoop in and bomb shit out of some place and people and call it retaliation? :rolleyes:

Sounds sorta like Israel/Gaza on steroids ... well yeah, it works for Israel so I guess it must be legal and sanctioned by the United Nations then! :mellow:

Proven to work under the monroe doctrine. Why break a winning formula. We've been smart for millennia... some smart folk believe that that isn't the case and therefore, as they know better, should be allowed to rule their inferiors.

[blue rider]

lookit thems terrorists over there

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/capitalism-in-crisis-amid-slow-growth-and-growing-inequality-a-998598.html

[mashman]

lookit thems terrorists over there

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/capitalism-in-crisis-amid-slow-growth-and-growing-inequality-a-998598.html

"Performance must be rewarded." has to be the singularly most damaging attitude in society. What's laughable about it though, is that those who spout such tripe often take umbrage with those who earn excessive salaries or form monopolies and demand some form of controls be put in place to redress the balance. Major ironing. Both positions using an entitlement complex to back up their selfish and flawed proposition that "Performance must be rewarded.".

It's always amusing that no matter how many financial commentators comment on the financial economy, they miss that point entirely. I can only assume that they're just as blind as those they comment on, as they too look to revere the Wenger maxim. They believe that they are entitled to more, because they have put in more effort than another. "Performance must be rewarded.". Bullshit moronicity!

[Ocean1]

"Performance must be rewarded." has to be the singularly most damaging attitude in society.

Panic not, you're in no danger of being rewarded.

[mashman]

Panic not, you're in no danger of being rewarded.

I am rewarded every single day... just not in any way that you'd probably understand. I have no use for panic as change is coming and is absolutely inevitable :wari:

[carbonhed]

I am rewarded every single day... just not in any way that you'd probably understand.

Who knew ironing your wife's panties while she provided for the family could be such a buzz.

[mashman]

Who knew ironing your wife's panties while she provided for the family could be such a buzz.

You ain't lived man.

[mashman]

lookit thems terrorists over there

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/capitalism-in-crisis-amid-slow-growth-and-growing-inequality-a-998598.html

"Performance must be rewarded." is bad m'kay (http://www.now-nz.com/) ;). Thanks for the inspiration.

[yokel]

The Occult, it's fucking real man!
your mind is theirs

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[bogan]

"Performance must be rewarded." is bad m'kay (http://www.now-nz.com/) ;). Thanks for the inspiration.

I think laughably, it is a lack of performance (among other things) that prevents the performanceless entitilists from pushing their agenda over the top of the tried and true performance entitles system.

[Ocean1]

I think laughably, it is a lack of performance (among other things) that prevents the performanceless entitilists from pushing their agenda over the top of the tried and true performance entitles system.

A symptom of the general lack of understanding about the natural link between effort and reward.

Fucking lucky lot that elite with all them rewards, eh?

[mashman]

I think laughably, it is a lack of performance (among other things) that prevents the performanceless entitilists from pushing their agenda over the top of the tried and true performance entitles system.

You thinking does seem to be laughable... it certainly tickles my funny bone as you fumble with the concept that I am actually a productive member of society and am remunerated as such. I'm happy to forgo that for the greater good... yet another concept I believe that you have trouble with.


A symptom of the general lack of understanding about the natural link between effort and reward.

Fucking lucky lot that elite with all them rewards, eh?

We are a vast improvement over your generation. Whilst we understand your generation, he same can't be said for yours.

Thanks for underlining my point.

[oldrider]

A symptom of the general lack of understanding about the natural link between effort and reward.

Fucking lucky lot that elite with all them rewards, eh?

Old adage springs to mind: "The harder and smarter I work the luckier I get"! ... Samual Goldwyn.

I added smarter because of the fly on the window syndrome = no matter how hard he tries unless he works smarter he aint going anywhere! :oi-grr:

[mashman]

After Fukushima, Japan gets green boom _ and glut (http://news.yahoo.com/fukushima-japan-gets-green-boom-glut-071656407.html)... yet another case of money halting play, or at the very least stifling it.

"Traumatized by the world's worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl and encouraged by the highest rates for renewable energy in the world, Japan has been undergoing a green boom. It's now rapidly turning into a fiasco as the cost proves prohibitive and utilities anticipate putting some nuclear reactors, shuttered since the March 2011 Fukushima disaster, back online. The unfolding green glut in Japan echoes similar experiences in Germany and Spain."

Fuckin idiotic to continue using money given the restrictions it puts on everything.

[bogan]

A symptom of the general lack of understanding about the natural link between effort and reward.

Fucking lucky lot that elite with all them rewards, eh?

Shirley knot? Almost like that dude's law, work in = work out...

Fuck I reckon, if I was a slack arse I might even be jealous of such luck :shifty:

[Akzle]

the greater good... yet another concept I believe that you have trouble with.

me too.

http://healthland.time.com/2011/12/05/would-you-kill-one-person-to-save-five-new-research-on-a-classic-debate/

[Ocean1]

After Fukushima, Japan gets green boom _ and glut (http://news.yahoo.com/fukushima-japan-gets-green-boom-glut-071656407.html)... yet another case of money halting play, or at the very least stifling it.

You really are spectacularly thick aincha?

Japan can simply not afford what's often laughably called "green" energy mostly because it's hideously expensive, often unavailable and often not very fucking green. They're just now realising that wee fact. Which would be good for NZ, what with Japan buying most of our propane exports, except for the fact that the US has begun selling them LNG at a quarter of the price.


Fuckin idiotic to continue using money given the restrictions it puts on everything.

Money restricts fuck all, what restricts shit is a lack of money, which anyone with intelligence enough to actually remember to breath recognises as synonymous with a lack of resources.

[Ocean1]

me too.

http://healthland.time.com/2011/12/05/would-you-kill-one-person-to-save-five-new-research-on-a-classic-debate/

Aye. Makes a nonsense of the Hippocratic oath that controls ethics in the medical industry eh?

Speaking of which.... You'll like this: http://drpate.stlukesblogs.org/2014/10/27/healthcare-costs-its-going-to-take-all-of-us/

[mashman]

You really are spectacularly thick aincha?

Japan can simply not afford what's often laughably called "green" energy mostly because it's hideously expensive, often unavailable and often not very fucking green. They're just now realising that wee fact. Which would be good for NZ, what with Japan buying most of our propane exports, except for the fact that the US has begun selling them LNG at a quarter of the price.

Nope, I leave that to the scared old white muthafuckas.

Thanks for making the point, again.



Money restricts fuck all, what restricts shit is a lack of money, which anyone with intelligence enough to actually remember to breath recognises as synonymous with a lack of resources.

bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... it's exactly the same thing... and exceptionally stupid given that money is an infinite resource that can be plucked out of thin air as and when required.

[mashman]

Speaking of which.... You'll like this: http://drpate.stlukesblogs.org/2014/10/27/healthcare-costs-its-going-to-take-all-of-us/

All a result of the "Performance must be rewarded." maxim. Obviously you don't have the mental faculty to process such a statement in a context other than the single context you choose... but I will persist.

[Brian d marge]

You really are spectacularly thick aincha?

Japan can simply not afford what's often laughably called "green" energy mostly because it's hideously expensive, often unavailable and often not very fucking green. They're just now realising that wee fact. Which would be good for NZ, what with Japan buying most of our propane exports, except for the fact that the US has begun selling them LNG at a quarter of the price.



Money restricts fuck all, what restricts shit is a lack of money, which anyone with intelligence enough to actually remember to breath recognises as synonymous with a lack of resources.

Here is my mates company , http://looop.co.jp/index.html

basically , older retired farmers are getting into the "solar farming " roughly you get 40 000 yen return a month for the basic "farm " set up roughly 2.5 million yen set up costs for the smallest set, 16 kw output or something like that , thats about 1/2 million a year ...

The prices are dropping , so much so I have a small set up for my garden ....

Many small communities along the Japanese sea coast line are on wind power , one turbine providing power to a small shopping centre and local houses

UNFORTUNATELY , the Japanese have a huge appetite for power , they waste shiloads... the houses are poorly insulated for example

because

Nuclear energy is , relatively safe , clean and cheap for the amount of power it produces

Though

The construction company’s are as dodgy as the day is long , and IF a big problem occurs , such as we have seen ..... that fks the whole are for a few thousand years


whoops

Atlas shrugged Ayn rand, the money speech ,

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Stephen

[Akzle]

Money restricts fuck all, what restricts shit is a lack of money, which anyone with intelligence enough to actually remember to breath recognises as synonymous with a lack of resources.

like to think i would you're aught but a shill.
i get the feeling you believe what you type, though, (which, i suppose = successful troll is successful)
but which being the case, you need to learn. there is no lack of resources, and any lack of "money" is purely artificial.

i have a right to 1/6billionth of the planet... do i have 1/6billionth of the planet's worth of either money or resources?

vis a vis, is the "money" representative of either actual scarcity, or... well, anything but the faith old white fucks and jews put into it?

[Brian d marge]

and the wrecking ball continues ......

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10689973/Government-could-sell-thousands-of-state-houses


Stephen

[mashman]

me too.

http://healthland.time.com/2011/12/05/would-you-kill-one-person-to-save-five-new-research-on-a-classic-debate/

Tricky one. But hardly similar like.

[mashman]

and the wrecking ball continues ......

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10689973/Government-could-sell-thousands-of-state-houses


Stephen

Well, it worked for maggie :laugh: same shit and this time same colour. Things must be bad.

[mashman]

Here is my mates company , http://looop.co.jp/index.html

basically , older retired farmers are getting into the "solar farming " roughly you get 40 000 yen return a month for the basic "farm " set up roughly 2.5 million yen set up costs for the smallest set, 16 kw output or something like that , thats about 1/2 million a year ...

The prices are dropping , so much so I have a small set up for my garden ....

Many small communities along the Japanese sea coast line are on wind power , one turbine providing power to a small shopping centre and local houses

UNFORTUNATELY , the Japanese have a huge appetite for power , they waste shiloads... the houses are poorly insulated for example

because

Nuclear energy is , relatively safe , clean and cheap for the amount of power it produces

Though

The construction company’s are as dodgy as the day is long , and IF a big problem occurs , such as we have seen ..... that fks the whole are for a few thousand years


whoops

All money related. We all know that it is technically possible.



Atlas shrugged Ayn rand, the money speech ,

Stephen

If you are men of such honour, why do you require tokens in the first place? springs to mind... for starters ;)

[mashman]

Atlas shrugged Ayn rand, the money speech

Stephen

I agree with a lot of what she says... however :D

The man who damns money: Cap seems to fit... if anyone believes that the reason I damn money is because I have "earned" it dishonourably or disrespect it really needs their heads read. Kinda makes that deserve shit she talks about look like nothing more than a justification for greed and entitlement.

Given the above view, that I know exists, that renders Rand's maxim to being just a speech in a book that offered nothing more than a single view of why: The man who damns money is dishonourable and doesn't respect money. Innit. Fortunately I doubt that anyone on this planet is under such a delusion.

[bogan]

Atlas shrugged Ayn rand, the money speech ,

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Some powerful stuff; the point about 'to make money' and its relation to societies virtues is relevant but I think a bit hazy by people of today who do not understand how money is created in that context. Undeniably true are the points about a mans own production belonging to him, and that it is money or the whip.

[mashman]

Hungary's Orban puts Internet tax on hold after huge protests (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/31/us-hungary-internet-tax-idUSKBN0IK0MM20141031)... Tax it. Good olde Ronnie.

[mashman]

Some powerful stuff; the point about 'to make money' and its relation to societies virtues is relevant but I think a bit hazy by people of today who do not understand how money is created in that context. Undeniably true are the points about a mans own production belonging to him, and that it is money or the whip.

Perhaps you can give me an answer then: If you are men of such honour, why do you require tokens in the first place?

[bogan]

Perhaps you can give me an answer then: If you are men of such honour, why do you require tokens in the first place?

If by tokens you mean money, the answer is simple, to keep account of what is owed. also not all are as honorable as the productive members of society.

[mashman]

If by tokens you mean money, the answer is simple, to keep account of what is owed. also not all are as honorable as the productive members of society.

I'm sure all productive members of society are honourable. One of the many reasons I support getting rid of that mechanism that lubricates it.

[Ocean1]

UNFORTUNATELY , the Japanese have a huge appetite for power , they waste shiloads... the houses are poorly insulated for example

I think I said that: they got a wee fright with a nuclear accident and swore off nuclear facilities. Until the "green" alternatives turned out to be unaffordable, not to mention often not very green.


Nuclear energy is , relatively safe , clean and cheap for the amount of power it produces

Though

The construction company’s are as dodgy as the day is long , and IF a big problem occurs , such as we have seen ..... that fks the whole are for a few thousand years


And yet nuclear energy would be the same price if the construction and management of the plants were not dodgy.

So why not do that?

And in fact developing modular nuclear tech looks to be a bunch less risky, so why throw the baby out with the cooling water?

[Ocean1]

bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... it's exactly the same thing... and exceptionally stupid given that money is an infinite resource that can be plucked out of thin air as and when required.

If money is an infinite resource then you won't mind giving me all of yours, will you?

Now, if you really are thick as pigshit you'll do just that.

And if you're simply full of shit and hoping nobody notices then you won't.

So which is it?

[Ocean1]

like to think i would you're aught but a shill.
i get the feeling you believe what you type, though, (which, i suppose = successful troll is successful)
but which being the case, you need to learn. there is no lack of resources, and any lack of "money" is purely artificial.

i have a right to 1/6billionth of the planet... do i have 1/6billionth of the planet's worth of either money or resources?

vis a vis, is the "money" representative of either actual scarcity, or... well, anything but the faith old white fucks and jews put into it?

Who gave you that right?

And if "money" don't represent resources or assets then how come you willingly exchange one for the other every day?

[Ocean1]

If by tokens you mean money, the answer is simple, to keep account of what is owed. also not all are as honorable as the productive members of society.

Correct. In fact while you might struggle to make a case for a direct link between honour and production there's certainly fuck all honour in expecting others to support you.

[mashman]

If money is an infinite resource then you won't mind giving me all of yours, will you?

Now, if you really are thick as pigshit you'll do just that.

And if you're simply full of shit and hoping nobody notices then you won't.

So which is it?

None of the above.

[bogan]

Correct. In fact while you might struggle to make a case for a direct link between honour and production there's certainly fuck all honour in expecting others to support you.

Exactly, though there is honor in supporting others too.

[Brian d marge]

None of the above.
Agreed money is finite . . Currency is infinite

[mashman]

Agreed money is finite . . Currency is infinite

Watch out, mr semantics is on the prowl.

[Brian d marge]

Watch out, mr semantics is on the prowl.
Lurking . .that wasnt a cat outside

Anyway the semantics are decended from abraham . . A very powerful force on the world stage


I .

[oldrider]

Atlas shrugged Ayn rand, the money speech ,

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Stephen

"That which is physically possible and morally desirable should be made financially possible" for the benefit of all mankind!

Unfortunately it doesn't happen quite like that because organisations have captured part of the process for their own advantage to the disadvantage of everybody else!

["Give me control of the finances of the world I care not who makes the laws"] Rothschild family motto! (Example of those that produce nothing)

Creation of "new money" as a interest bearing debt for the personal advantage of the controllers of the financial system is the first crime against humanity!

To restore that control for the benefit of "all of mankind" is the only action that needs to be taken to realise the goals espoused courtesy of Ayn Rand in the video!

I.E. Monetary reform means - - Stop "new money" being created as an interest bearing debt and create "new money" as "debt free credit"!

All the mechanisms to allow this to happen are in place right now "except the political will and understanding" to make it happen! :shifty:

[Brian d marge]

["Give me control of the finances , I care not who makes the laws"]
Not the Rothschilds , but.. My wife who first used this .....

It was in the small print of my marriage contract

Stephen

[Akzle]

Who gave you that right?

And if "money" don't represent resources or assets then how come you willingly exchange one for the other every day?

i need someone to give me rights now?
O pleas massa, sha' i shiyne ya ova boots now massa?

So, to extend that, since you give no answer: The only rights one is entitled to are those can be bought with jewgold?

2a) i dont
2b) that 'faith of old white fucks and jews'. aforementioned.

I look forward to when youre all dead.

[mashman]

RT: "China has passed counter-espionage legislation, which is set to beef up state security and ensure that a "comprehensive" national security system is constructed, state media reported. The new law will let authorities seal or seize any property connected with activities considered harmful to the state, according to Xinhua news agency. Also, the authorities may demand the individuals or organizations to stop or change behavior deemed inappropriate by the state – or have the property confiscated.".

[oldrider]

Seems to be a "changing" stupid world all right! :confused:

Russia is becoming the new America (Capitalist) while USA is becoming the old USSR (Communist) with China hanging in the middle trying to have a bob each way! :corn:

Sorta like the way National and Labour swapped rolls in the eighties ... nobody noticed that either until it was too late! :shifty:

[Ocean1]

i need someone to give me rights now?
O pleas massa, sha' i shiyne ya ova boots now massa?

So, to extend that, since you give no answer: The only rights one is entitled to are those can be bought with jewgold?

2a) i dont
2b) that 'faith of old white fucks and jews'. aforementioned.

I look forward to when youre all dead.

Apparently you just assume them.

And don't really want answers.

And if you really don't use money then there's simply no way you get to live longer than me, caveboy.

[Akzle]

Apparently you just assume them.

And don't really want answers.

And if you really don't use money then there's simply no way you get to live longer than me, caveboy.

no no hosc. Dont dodge this one like some kind of illiterate bitch, youre better than that.

Who assigns 'rights'?
Who denies my claim to 1/6billionth of human existence?

Haha. Live longer. Like it matters.

Youre poorer than i thought hosc.

[bogan]

no no hosc. Dont dodge this one like some kind of illiterate bitch, youre better than that.

Who assigns 'rights'?
Who denies my claim to 1/6billionth of human existence?

Haha. Live longer. Like it matters.

Youre poorer than i thought hoscar.

The only claim you can make as a human, is your right to be self aware and intelligent, just like everyone else. Whether you exercise that right or not determine what assets you get. You and mashy clearly would rather put hands out than exercise that, so are left to deal with the consequences; seems pretty ideal to me :sunny:

[blue rider]

The private market looking after the needs of the population, consumer, citizens or maybe hostage?

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/oct/31/millionaire-landlords-fergus-judith-wilson-evicting-families

Free Market - fuckayeah

[bogan]

Trading basics explained.

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[blue rider]

and also this

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[Akzle]

did i mention an illiterate bitch? oh well.


The only claim you can make as a human, is your right to be self aware and intelligent,
is it? really? who limits me to that claim?
do you deny the "self/awareness" of any other species? do you deny the intelligence of any other species?
quite a high fucking horse you're on there bog.


Whether you exercise that right or not determine what assets you get.
so, i if make full use of that claim, and either a) ponzi scheme some cunts out of jewgold by banking or politicianing or b) go and take money off people by persuasion of a shotgun: that's sweet yeah, because i've deemed that to be a viable option?


You and mashy clearly would rather put hands out than exercise that, so are left to deal with the consequences;

i think you miss several points (why am i even bothering, oh, by the way, i found a crate of stout i'd forgotten about this morning...) "putting my hand out" implies someone else will put something in it - not so much how i operate. i use my hands for things, like picking up the things i want, and masturbation.

but, YOU can't hardly whinge about "handouts" as you're voluntarily part of a society that endorses/provides them, so up the fuck shut.
next.
i think, if you ever think, you'll find that both mashy and i live with the consequences of our decisions, every day, in this way we're no more or less special than you, we're just better humans.

[bogan]

did i mention an illiterate bitch? oh well.


is it? really? who limits me to that claim?
do you deny the "self/awareness" of any other species? do you deny the intelligence of any other species?
quite a high fucking horse you're on there bog.


so, i if make full use of that claim, and either a) ponzi scheme some cunts out of jewgold by banking or politicianing or b) go and take money off people by persuasion of a shotgun: that's sweet yeah, because i've deemed that to be a viable option?



i think you miss several points (why am i even bothering, oh, by the way, i found a crate of stout i'd forgotten about this morning...) "putting my hand out" implies someone else will put something in it - not so much how i operate. i use my hands for things, like picking up the things i want, and masturbation.

but, YOU can't hardly whinge about "handouts" as you're voluntarily part of a society that endorses/provides them, so up the fuck shut.
next.
i think, if you ever think, you'll find that both mashy and i live with the consequences of our decisions, every day, in this way we're no more or less special than you, we're just better humans.

Due to target audience aptitude I went with a simplified working example. Of course other species should be afforded the same rights as their sentience allows.

If you're looking for reasons why you can't be a tin-pot dictator, the consensus of society is your answer; you don't have to like that btw, but it is the way things are.

You and mashy want thins your way, for not other reason than it is your way. And yes that way gives you more things in hand, so it is a hand out.

[mashman]

You and mashy want thins your way, for not other reason than it is your way. And yes that way gives you more things in hand, so it is a hand out.

No other reason? Putting words into someone else's mouth in order to prove a point again eh. Your yardstick looks to be missing about 35 inches.

[mashman]

i think, if you ever think, you'll find that both mashy and i live with the consequences of our decisions, every day, in this way we're no more or less special than you, we're just better humans.

Gotta wonder what percentage of humans are actually practicing humans. I reckon about 99%.

[Akzle]

i'd rank that a C-. not because you could do better, it just isn't worth failing and getting your parents all upset,
but nor is it worth a real pass mark. i'm sure you'll muddle your way through adulthood without doing too much harm...

other species should be afforded the same rights as their sentience allows.
so... sentience is the only measure of worth?
tell me bog, how sentient do you believe to be the trees?
and their pertinence to you existence?
and how do you feel about carrots?

If you're looking for reasons why you can't be a tin-pot dictator, the consensus of society is your answer;
an answer to a question neither asked nor implied..my my bog, those tinted spectacles are detracting from your observation...

You and mashy want thins your way, for not other reason than it is your way. And yes that way gives you more things in hand, so it is a hand out.
i do want things my way. so i do things my way. it goes good.

"gives me MORE things in hand"? more than what?
and i just told you, you're not allowed to whinge about "handouts" because you do it voluntarily. so stfu.

[Akzle]

No other reason? Putting words into someone else's mouth in order to prove a point again eh. Your yardstick looks to be missing about 35 inches.

i'd have said more like 3 feet...

[mashman]

i'd have said more like 3 feet...

lol, harsh, but not entirely without merit.

[bogan]

No other reason? Putting words into someone else's mouth in order to prove a point again eh. Your yardstick looks to be missing about 35 inches.

The reasons you keep banging on about are moronic, and not shared by the majority of the population; so yeh, it is your imagination-over-reality wants that should be dismissed as nonsense. Not putting words into your mouth, just objectively interpreting what comes out.


i'd rank that a C-. not because you could do better, it just isn't worth failing and getting your parents all upset,
but nor is it worth a real pass mark. i'm sure you'll muddle your way through adulthood without doing too much harm...

so... sentience is the only measure of worth?
tell me bog, how sentient do you believe to be the trees?
and their pertinence to you existence?
and how do you feel about carrots?

an answer to a question neither asked nor implied..my my bog, those tinted spectacles are detracting from your observation...

i do want things my way. so i do things my way. it goes good.

"gives me MORE things in hand"? more than what?
and i just told you, you're not allowed to whinge about "handouts" because you do it voluntarily. so stfu.

Nope, but the sentient are the only ones who get a say.

Then be happy with doing things your way, why all the bitching about our ways?

More than you have under the current system. To give voluntarily is fine, to think you are entitled to those gifts is not.

[Akzle]

Nope, but the sentient are the only ones who get a say.
i'll tell that to the next typhoon.volcano/earthquake that i'm talking to...


Then be happy with doing things your way, why all the bitching about our ways?
you've lost your way bog.


To give voluntarily is fine, to think you are entitled to those gifts is not.
uhh. are you actually fucking retarded?
seriously, look around you right now... are you wearing a helmet and licking the paint? are there other adults in the room wearing diapers?

who is entitled to what you "give", if not me?

[bogan]

i'll tell that to the next typhoon.volcano/earthquake that i'm talking to...


you've lost your way bog.


uhh. are you actually fucking retarded?
seriously, look around you right now... are you wearing a helmet and licking the paint? are there other adults in the room wearing diapers?

who is entitled to what you give, if not me?

Feel free to get right up close when you do.

Ah, so your opinion (minority) about our ways is more valid than ours? That's that tinpot dictator shit I was going on about.

Whoever I deem worthy or needy. My production, my resources I've gathered are my own, who are you to tell me you have a right to them? The tinpot dictator?

[Akzle]

Feel free to get right up close when you do.

Ah, so your opinion (minority) about our ways is more valid than ours? That's that tinpot dictator shit I was going on about.

Whoever I deem worthy or needy. My production, my resources I've gathered are my own, who are you to tell me you have a right to them? The tinpot dictator?

that's an F on comprehension. and basic logic.

you GIVE. ergo, whatever you think "you own" is no longer yours, but the recipients'. fuck, how hard is that to comprehend.

and yes, my opinion is way, way above yours.
no major or minor labia about it.

me vs you.
i win.

[Brian d marge]

The private market looking after the needs of the population, consumer, citizens or maybe hostage?

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/oct/31/millionaire-landlords-fergus-judith-wilson-evicting-families

Free Market - fuckayeah

about time I reactivated my list .....

Burn his fkin houses down ...and keep doing it ...

As for Jk , ...well hes on me list

Stephen

[bogan]

that's an F on comprehension. and basic logic.

you GIVE. ergo, whatever you think "you own" is no longer yours, but the recipients'. fuck, how hard is that to comprehend.

and yes, my opinion is way, way above yours.
no major or minor labia about it.

me vs you.
i win.

Once the giving is done yes, but pre-giving it is my choice, not yours. Don't beleive me? entitle yourself to the biggest TV at Harvey Normans and see how far you get with it :laugh::Police:

Exactly, tinpot dictator is what you would like to be.

[Akzle]

Once the giving is done yes, but pre-giving it is my choice,
but it's given. past tense. present tense. you give it as you get it. you. work. for. me.

and you give it voluntarily. so seriously, shut the fuck up about it princess.

entitle yourself to the biggest TV at Harvey Normans and see how far you get with it
i dislike harvey norman so much i wouldn't even steal from them. (the insurance jews, you see.)

[bogan]

but it's given. past tense. present tense. you give it as you get it. you. work. for. me.

and you give it voluntarily. so seriously, shut the fuck up about it princess.

i dislike harvey norman so much i wouldn't even steal from them. (the insurance jews, you see.)

See, there's that handout entitlement I was going on about earlier; so as I said:

Tinpot dictator, check
Handouts, check
#rekt, check

[Akzle]

See, there's that handout entitlement I was going on about earlier; so as I said:

Tinpot dictator, check
Handouts, check
#rekt, check


entitlement? you entitle me to it, when you give it me.
thanks bog. i'll give you a reach around one time. or, maybe not.
xoxo - jews.



(just to recap - you choose to give it to me, my receipt/etitlement is ergo post-your-choice. ergo your bleeding-out-the-vagina about it is null and void.)

i'll let your wife suck my cock.

[bogan]

entitlement? you entitle me to it, when you give it me.
thanks bog. i'll give you a reach around one time. or, maybe not.
xoxo - jews.



(just to recap - you choose to give it to me, my receipt/etitlement is ergo post-your-choice. ergo your bleeding-out-the-vagina about it is null and void.)

i'll let your wife suck my cock.

You seem to be confused, I'm not 'bleeding out the vagina' about how things currently are, but about how shit things would be if people who feel entitled to handouts were made tinpot dictators. I think Ayn Rand shares those thoughts...

Akzle status updates:

tinpot dictator aspirations
entitlement complex
confused
#rekt
#salty

final grade:
:killingme

[mashman]

The reasons you keep banging on about are moronic, and not shared by the majority of the population; so yeh, it is your imagination-over-reality wants that should be dismissed as nonsense. Not putting words into your mouth, just objectively interpreting what comes out.

Not shared by the majority? They've obviously never been asked. The KB poll is over 50% for Yes. Yet you claim the majority?

My reality is that I desire to live in an R.B.E.... and that I believe over 50% of the population would happily contribute towards? I'll take it. Therefore your reality isn't mine and must be dismissed as nonsense on the basis that you didn't ask anyone and I did. I trust my results over yours to be closer to our "shared" reality.

[bogan]

Not shared by the majority? They've obviously never been asked. The KB poll is over 50% for Yes. Yet you claim the majority?

My reality is that I desire to live in an R.B.E.... and that I believe over 50% of the population would happily contribute towards? I'll take it. Therefore your reality isn't mine and must be dismissed as nonsense on the basis that you didn't ask anyone and I did. I trust my results over yours to be closer to our "shared" reality.

I voted yes on that, the poll is obviously flawed.

How did the money free party do? Not even enough support (<0.01%) of population to even get it on the voting forms. The majority has had their say, if you refuse to exercise your right to intelligence on that matter it is your choice.

[mashman]

You seem to be confused, I'm not 'bleeding out the vagina' about how things currently are, but about how shit things would be if people who feel entitled to handouts were made tinpot dictators. I think Ayn Rand shares those thoughts...

Akzle status updates:

tinpot dictator aspirations
entitlement complex
confused
#rekt
#salty

final grade:
:killingme

Rand made a pretty speech, nothing more, nothing less.

My conclusion is different. I have met the man himself twice. When did you meet him in order to gauge his intentions?

So based on both verbal and written evidence

tinpot dictator aspirations - nope, but he could do the job blindfolded whilst riding a rainbow pony and throwing knives at scantily clad women on a spinning wheel. He doesn't want it, and I don't blame him.
entitlement complex - bwaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... nah, that's reserved for those who believe that they deserve based on what they perceive what they have done and how well they have done it. (see bluerider dog picture).
confused - nah.

final grade:
Real PM material

[mashman]

I voted yes on that, the poll is obviously flawed.

How did the money free party do? Not even enough support (<0.01%) of population to even get it on the voting forms. The majority has had their say, if you refuse to exercise your right to intelligence on that matter it is your choice.

There was no flaw. It was unbias. It did not speak of mechanisms and it did not speak of goals other than living in NZ without money. based on that alone more than 50% said yes. Get over it.

They did better than they did at the election before... and they will keep on growing coz they're asking the question and people are understanding the concept. Would point toward your analysis being the problem. I'm not the mentally deficient one that believes that he's coming from a place of knowledge when talking about how the people voted. The majority had their say in that poll and for the reasons they felt at the time. I know that I'm not the first person to have thought about how easy it would be to transition to an R.B.E. So seems like my intelligence is firing on all cylinders... which, unfortunately again brings us back to your analysis. Wouldn't wanna be you

[bogan]

Rand made a pretty speech, nothing more, nothing less.

My conclusion is different. I have met the man himself twice. When did you meet him in order to gauge his intentions?

So based on both verbal and written evidence

tinpot dictator aspirations - nope, but he could do the job blindfolded whilst riding a rainbow pony and throwing knives at scantily clad women on a spinning wheel. He doesn't want it, and I don't blame him.
entitlement complex - bwaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... nah, that's reserved for those who believe that they deserve based on what they perceive what they have done and how well they have done it. (see bluerider dog picture).
confused - nah.

final grade:
Real PM material

She'd also seen firsthand the corruption and inefficiencies present in a non-capitalist system, and also experience in capitalist one; making her words more than just pretty.

I was gong by his posts as evidence of his thoughts; as is what we all do online. I understand he is a much meeker man in person, but this is of no real relevance to the point at hand.

His thinking that his opinions are worth more than another's (and indeed many others) and should be acted upon as such is what earns him (and you) the label of aspiring tinpot dictator.

He believes he is entitled to what I have earned, that is an entitlement complex, yes it is a working definition and if you want to imagine up another meaning for it so it doesn't cover him, then by all means ignore your right to intelligence again.

Confused as he thought I was complaining about the current state of societies handouts when I was instead talking about the idea that a society with handouts as its primary currency form.


There was no flaw. It was unbias. It did not speak of mechanisms and it did not speak of goals other than living in NZ without money. based on that alone more than 50% said yes. Get over it.

They did better than they did at the election before... and they will keep on growing coz they're asking the question and people are understanding the concept. Would point toward your analysis being the problem. I'm not the mentally deficient one that believes that he's coming from a place of knowledge when talking about how the people voted. The majority had their say in that poll and for the reasons they felt at the time. I know that I'm not the first person to have thought about how easy it would be to transition to an R.B.E. So seems like my intelligence is firing on all cylinders... which, unfortunately again brings us back to your analysis. Wouldn't wanna be you

The flaw was that you offered no other mechanism in its place; yet are trying to apply the answer to a specific mechanism of your interpretation of an R.B.E. I voted yes because I would like to live in such a society but only if it was realistically sustainable (by replacing the mechanism of money with something else). Lets see if you really think it representative, do another one and this time a simple yes/no but you have to outline the exact system of resource allocation. Get even 25% yes in that one and I shall not post in this thread ever again; but I know you don't, won't, and can't.

Like I said, <0.01%, the people have spoken. It is not intelligent to think that <0.01% represent the will of the people. Neither is it intelligent to draw trends from such small sample data.

[Akzle]

he could do the job blindfolded whilst riding a rainbow pony and throwing knives at scantily clad women on a spinning wheel.

fuck. I thought thap was just particularly good acid last weekend....

[mashman]

She'd also seen firsthand the corruption and inefficiencies present in a non-capitalist system, and also experience in capitalist one; making her words more than just pretty.

I was gong by his posts as evidence of his thoughts; as is what we all do online. I understand he is a much meeker man in person, but this is of no real relevance to the point at hand.

His thinking that his opinions are worth more than another's (and indeed many others) and should be acted upon as such is what earns him (and you) the label of aspiring tinpot dictator.

He believes he is entitled to what I have earned, that is an entitlement complex, yes it is a working definition and if you want to imagine up another meaning for it so it doesn't cover him, then by all means ignore your right to intelligence again.

Confused as he thought I was complaining about the current state of societies handouts when I was instead talking about the idea that a society with handouts as its primary currency form.


She saw yet another failed capitalist system. They abused money to the detriment of the population back then too. If she were here to day I'd have her converted in a matter of minutes as she's obviously intelligent if not somewhat bias based on her observations.

I wouldn't necessarily call him meek. I would call him honest though.

He doesn't think that his opinion is worth more than anothers. That's not what a disagreement is. I have no doubt he understands your position, hence the ability to explain a different one. If you're writing him off because of how you have translated his posts, then that's not his issue. Call us what you like... we will know the truth.

No, he's saying that you give it and he will accept that gift graciously and with thanks if and when that time comes. Sorry, I was submitting a fact in regards to entitlement complex. It wasn't open for debate. That you believe that you are in a position to make that judgement concerns me.

Well you are. You're wanting to choose who should be allowed to receive your handout. You've voted for a govt to do that on your behalf. I fail to see how you can see that any differently... unless you didn't vote of course?

[Akzle]

I was gong by his posts as evidence of his thoughts; as is what we all do online. I understand he is a much meeker man in person, but this is of no real relevance to the point at hand.

His thinking that his opinions are worth more than another's ...
He believes he is entitled to what I have earned,



but bog, youre reading through a haze of glitter and donkey shit, you (obviously)have no idea my meaning, and you are so far below that you struggle to grasp even the edge of 'my' ideas.

And, for the last time, darlin, you give it me, ergo, its mine. Theres no entitlement about that. Just fact.

[bogan]

She saw yet another failed capitalist system. They abused money to the detriment of the population back then too. If she were here to day I'd have her converted in a matter of minutes as she's obviously intelligent if not somewhat bias based on her observations.

I wouldn't necessarily call him meek. I would call him honest though.

He doesn't think that his opinion is worth more than anothers. That's not what a disagreement is. I have no doubt he understands your position, hence the ability to explain a different one. If you're writing him off because of how you have translated his posts, then that's not his issue. Call us what you like... we will know the truth.

No, he's saying that you give it and he will accept that gift graciously and with thanks if and when that time comes. Sorry, I was submitting a fact in regards to entitlement complex. It wasn't open for debate. That you believe that you are in a position to make that judgement concerns me.

Well you are. You're wanting to choose who should be allowed to receive your handout. You've voted for a govt to do that on your behalf. I fail to see how you can see that any differently... unless you didn't vote of course?

That's just fucking delusional, so obviously nothing more will be gained from discussion such.

Like I said, of no relevance anyway.

No who is puttin gwords into whose mouth? He said "and yes, my opinion is way, way above yours. no major or minor labia about it. me vs you. i win"

Why am I even discussing what he says with you anyway, he tried to do it himself and failed misrebly, you're off to an even worse start. So lets come back to something which can actually be discussed without ending in the mass of 'this means that' semantics you seem to prefer.

"The flaw was that you offered no other mechanism in its place; yet are trying to apply the answer to a specific mechanism of your interpretation of an R.B.E. I voted yes because I would like to live in such a society but only if it was realistically sustainable (by replacing the mechanism of money with something else). Lets see if you really think it representative, do another one and this time a simple yes/no but you have to outline the exact system of resource allocation. Get even 25% yes in that one and I shall not post in this thread ever again; but I know you don't, won't, and can't."

So yeh, put up or <s>shut up</s> babble on about how your revocation fo your right to intelligence makes you smarter than me if you only just rewrite the dictionary/history/reality to your advantage.

[mashman]

The flaw was that you offered no other mechanism in its place; yet are trying to apply the answer to a specific mechanism of your interpretation of an R.B.E. I voted yes because I would like to live in such a society but only if it was realistically sustainable (by replacing the mechanism of money with something else). Lets see if you really think it representative, do another one and this time a simple yes/no but you have to outline the exact system of resource allocation. Get even 25% yes in that one and I shall not post in this thread ever again; but I know you don't, won't, and can't.

Like I said, <0.01%, the people have spoken. It is not intelligent to think that <0.01% represent the will of the people. Neither is it intelligent to draw trends from such small sample data.

In which case people had the option to say No. Well an R.B.E. does not run using money. Striking resemblance. The system matters not to some people, so long as the stated outcomes are positive across the board and are met and addressed across the board. If you want to re-frame the question in a poll, then by all means go and do it... but still doesn't change the validity or the outcome of the poll and the options given. Yer dreamin...

:killingme... I hope they're not insulted at being called unintelligent because they voted on, what you claim, is a badly worded poll. Yer dreamin... I don't see KB as mis-representative of people in general.

[bogan]

And, for the last time, darlin, you give it me, ergo, its mine. Theres no entitlement about that. Just fact.

To demand the gift though, that is entitlement.

[mashman]

That's just fucking delusional, so obviously nothing more will be gained from discussion such.

Like I said, of no relevance anyway.

No who is puttin gwords into whose mouth? He said "and yes, my opinion is way, way above yours. no major or minor labia about it. me vs you. i win"

Why am I even discussing what he says with you anyway, he tried to do it himself and failed misrebly, you're off to an even worse start. So lets come back to something which can actually be discussed without ending in the mass of 'this means that' semantics you seem to prefer.

"The flaw was that you offered no other mechanism in its place; yet are trying to apply the answer to a specific mechanism of your interpretation of an R.B.E. I voted yes because I would like to live in such a society but only if it was realistically sustainable (by replacing the mechanism of money with something else). Lets see if you really think it representative, do another one and this time a simple yes/no but you have to outline the exact system of resource allocation. Get even 25% yes in that one and I shall not post in this thread ever again; but I know you don't, won't, and can't."

So yeh, put up or <s>shut up</s> babble on about how your revocation fo your right to intelligence makes you smarter than me if you only just rewrite the dictionary/history/reality to your advantage.

Brave brave sir bogin, quoted rand an ran away, away he ran he ran away.....

Squirrel.

[bogan]

In which case people had the option to say No. Well an R.B.E. does not run using money. Striking resemblance. The system matters not to some people, so long as the stated outcomes are positive across the board and are met and addressed across the board. If you want to re-frame the question in a poll, then by all means go and do it... but still doesn't change the validity or the outcome of the poll and the options given. Yer dreamin...

:killingme... I hope they're not insulted at being called unintelligent because they voted on, what you claim, is a badly worded poll. Yer dreamin... I don't see KB as mis-representative of people in general.

Exactly, yours does not address those, this is why you get <0.01% support. Don't believe me, run the poll again but put your system vs the current one (I can't run it cos you keep telling me I have no idea how your system works). Your logic at the moment is like saying 50% of NZ support the money free party because 50% didn't vote for national in the current election. The question is not what people don't vote for, but what they do, and in both cases yours wasn't in the running.

Nobody is being called unintelligent becasue of what they vote on. People who wrongly interpret the results of polls are however, demonstrably unintelligent.


Brave brave sir bogin, quoted rand an ran away, away he ran he ran away.....

Squirrel.

Yet it is you who runs at the hint of any argument that does not come down to you just having a rewrite of the dictionary/history/reality to your advantage.

[mashman]

Exactly, yours does not address those, this is why you get <0.01% support. Don't believe me, run the poll again but put your system vs the current one (I can't run it cos you keep telling me I have no idea how your system works). Your logic at the moment is like saying 50% of NZ support the money free party because 50% didn't vote for national in the current election. The question is not what people don't vote for, but what they do, and in both cases yours wasn't in the running.

Nobody is being called unintelligent becasue of what they vote on. People who wrongly interpret the results of polls are however, demonstrably unintelligent.

Yet it is you who runs at the hint of any argument that does not come down to you just having a rewrite of the dictionary/history/reality to your advantage.

You have no argument. The question and answers stand in their own right. You run the poll as you want certain terms of reference added before answering the question.

:killingme. Fuck that was funny, chur.

We've done that to death. You have a full cup. Squirrel.

[bogan]

The question and answers stand in their own right.

Question 1; how many of NZ supported the money free party during the 2014 general election?

Answer, <0.01%.

Yes, I agree the question and answer does stand in it's own right.

Question 2; how many kwibikers who bothered to vote in mashy's poll (99) would live in NZ if there was no financial system?
Answer; 47.5%

Interpretation of both questions; People are willing to put up with (mashy failed to ask if people wanted to live here in such circumstance, just whether they would or not) a money free society, but not support it.

[Akzle]

i wish ocean would come back. He's more interesting. But he might be out RIDING HIS MOTORBIKE.

Beaut fuken weather an' all.

Id have a beer with you bog. Once.

[mashman]

‘Entire villages disappeared’: Ebola deaths in Sierra Leone ‘underreported’ (http://rt.com/news/201567-ebola-sierra-leone-toll-underreported/)

‘Water not for sale’: Ireland stands up against water tax, tens of thousands march in protest (http://rt.com/news/201575-ireland-protest-water-charges/)... tax tax tax it's all they know how to do.

Hungary internet tax cancelled after mass protests (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29846285)... tax tax tax it's all they know how to do.

[Ocean1]

no no hosc. Dont dodge this one like some kind of illiterate bitch, youre better than that.

Ohyea, when it comes to comprehension I'm better than you by pretty much the complete discipline in question. Which is why I'm qualified to educate you in such matters as rights.


Who assigns 'rights'?

In particular it's not you. Not ever. In fact the duty of assigning rights belongs to the members of your society.

Only fools believe they have any ability to arbitrarily assume any sort of rights and have any of their contemporaries respect them.

[Brian d marge]

Question 1; how many of NZ supported the money free party during the 2014 general election?

Answer, <0.01%.

Yes, I agree the question and answer does stand in it's own right.

Question 2; how many kwibikers who bothered to vote in mashy's poll (99) would live in NZ if there was no financial system?
Answer; 47.5%

Interpretation of both questions; People are willing to put up with (mashy failed to ask if people wanted to live here in such circumstance, just whether they would or not) a money free society, but not support it.

Asking sheep , do they prefer the - freezing works - or -green pasture- is like pissing into the wind as they have no concept of both .....

As for the frog, well hes happy in his nice warm place ........

Watch the left hand side of the whiteboard , Mr banke manager isnt lending to the high street , he is in the stockmarket .......

Well he was , hes been buying hard assets as of late , ...watch that market come down , me thinks

Not an IF , more like a when ,........
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Stephen


making table candles ..oh yea ~

[Akzle]

Ohyea, when it comes to comprehension I'm better than you by pretty much the complete discipline in question. Which is why I'm qualified to educate you in such matters as rights.



In particular it's not you. Not ever. In fact the duty of assigning rights belongs to the members of your society.

Only fools believe they have any ability to arbitrarily assume any sort of rights and have any of their contemporaries respect them.

poor. poor. hosc.


1) educate me? please do, what is it you know that i do not?

2)did i claim the right to assign rights? no... i asked who does. you didn't answer..
my society? there's a few of us now... just wait

3)contemporaries? son, you're far below my contemporary...

[bogan]

Asking sheep , do they prefer the - freezing works - or -green pasture- is like pissing into the wind as they have no concept of both .....

As for the frog, well hes happy in his nice warm place ........

Are you saying that before voting there is an aptitude test to weed out the 'sheep'? Or some other way of not counting or redistributing the opinion of society?

I'm not completely opposed to either of those things, but like a money free society, the replacement mechanism must be superior to what it replaces.

[oldrider]

Asking sheep , do they prefer the - freezing works - or -green pasture- is like pissing into the wind as they have no concept of both .....

As for the frog, well hes happy in his nice warm place ........

Watch the left hand side of the whiteboard , Mr banke manager isnt lending to the high street , he is in the stockmarket .......

Well he was , hes been buying hard assets as of late , ...watch that market come down , me thinks

Not an IF , more like a when ,........

Stephen

In a true capitalist/market economy Barry the Bank manager should be left to go broke or be dismissed, based on his own banking performance!

His banking business is being propped up artificially "twice" by the government, at the expense of the taxpayer!

That is the anomaly that the government should be fixing!

Instead they keep just propping him up again and again with quantitative easing using true taxpayer based wealth to do it!

This is a case of the tail wagging the dog and it happens because the politicians and the electorate know not what Barry the banker really does!

Barry the banker behaves the way he does because the vested interests that put him there do so to maintain their own special privileged lifestyle!

They will not relinquish their hold over society willingly it will have to be wrenched off them by political strong men who know exactly what they are doing!

Did we elect "any" of those strong types of politicians at the last general election?

It has been said that we elect the government that we deserve! .. Did we do that last time? :shutup:

John Key is a banker, he must know exactly what is going on but where do his loyalties actually lie?

Is it with Barry the banker and his benefactors? Or is it with the electorate that he represents?

That is an important question for every New Zealand voter to ask and understand!

Unfortunately the media circus makes sure that we never focus on that question by constantly raising meaningless distractions!

[Brian d marge]

Are you saying that before voting there is an aptitude test to weed out the 'sheep'? Or some other way of not counting or redistributing the opinion of society?

I'm not completely opposed to either of those things, but like a money free society, the replacement mechanism must be superior to what it replaces.
No , what Im saying is you cannot expect anyone of whom;
has had a less than stellar upbringing
B, operates in a differing universe , think halfwits in south Auckland ..who wear red a blue and never blow on pies
People who through no fault of their own , are unable to access information about all sides of the issues
Dumb arse cracker who cannot tie shoelaces
To make an informed decition regarding the future and policies of our country .....

Whats wrong with a free and independent press ..........

oh thats right , its on youtube and not from fairfacts media .....( even the name is a joke )

Stephen

proud as punch of his new Table candle

[Brian d marge]

meanwhile ...in little old NZ

The Green Party is calling for an independent umpire to regulate buy-back prices set by power companies, after a major supplier slashed its rate for new customers generating solar or wind power.
Users of renewable energy - such as solar or wind - use the electricity to power their home or business, and can sell back any excess electricity to their supplier to be used on the national grid.


ho hum .....

Stephen

[bogan]

No , what Im saying is you cannot expect anyone of whom;
has had a less than stellar upbringing
B, operates in a differing universe , think halfwits in south Auckland ..who wear red a blue and never blow on pies
People who through no fault of their own , are unable to access information about all sides of the issues
Dumb arse cracker who cannot tie shoelaces
To make an informed decition regarding the future and policies of our country .....

Whats wrong with a free and independent press ..........

oh thats right , its on youtube and not from fairfacts media .....( even the name is a joke )

Stephen

proud as punch of his new Table candle

Yet we must give them the opportunity to have an intelligent say. I have faith the majority can be educated, mitigating the damage of the minority in that fashion. I mean the mark of a good idea/theory is the ability to convince others, not your own conviction in it; and on that basis democracy works.

[Brian d marge]

Yet we must give them the opportunity to have an intelligent say. I have faith the majority can be educated, mitigating the damage of the minority in that fashion. I mean the mark of a good idea/theory is the ability to convince others, not your own conviction in it; and on that basis democracy works.


The original idea of democracy was good, the old Greeks had it well nailed ...but then some fkr went and ruined it so we end up in a society like


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More Hippies !!!

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This guy done gone Gansta

Legend
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Stephen

[bogan]

The original idea of democracy was good, the old Greeks had it well nailed ...but then some fkr went and ruined it

Imo, the time of representative democracy should be nearing an end. Non-binding referendums are a travesty. The people should control those 'in power', not the other way around.

[Brian d marge]

To see our future .....

Download ...... the road

Damn...... how come this wasnt in the Cinema ????

http://torrent.eval.hu/torrent/The%20Road%20%282009%29%20720p%20BrRip%20x264%20-%20700mb%20-%20YIFY/6676853

Stephen

[bogan]

To see our future .....

Download ...... the road

Damn...... how come this wasnt in the Cinema ????

http://torrent.eval.hu/torrent/The%20Road%20%282009%29%20720p%20BrRip%20x264%20-%20700mb%20-%20YIFY/6676853

Stephen

Why, because it is such a terrible movie it makes you want to go through that apocalypse just to get out of watching it? :shifty:

[Brian d marge]

Imo, the time of representative democracy should be nearing an end. Non-binding referendums are a travesty. The people should control those 'in power', not the other way around.

fk me u will be wearing a tin hat next ,,,,,,

[avgas]

Question 1; how many of NZ supported the money free party during the 2014 general election?Answer, <0.01%.Yes, I agree the question and answer does stand in it's own right.Question 2; how many kwibikers who bothered to vote in mashy's poll (99) would live in NZ if there was no financial system?Answer; 47.5%Interpretation of both questions; People are willing to put up with (mashy failed to ask if people wanted to live here in such circumstance, just whether they would or not) a money free society, but not support it.How many people voted for the Nazi party?
How many people wanted to remove Jews from the planet?
Sometimes you can't join the dots.

[Brian d marge]

How many people voted for the Nazi party?
How many people wanted to remove Jews from the planet?
Sometimes you can't join the dots.

Answer to Q1

over 50 %
Q2 not many deep down but it was a populist sentiment
Q3 ya can and its happening now ......god damn those sand colored people

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

fast forward to about 25 min ,,,,

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people helping people !!

fkin hippies

Stephen

[mashman]

fkin hippies

Stephen

So fuckin nice... I hate them too.

[Banditbandit]

The people should control those 'in power', not the other way around.

You fail to understand the nature of political power ...

http://i.imgur.com/M4iHiFL.jpg

[mashman]

Israeli ministers pass bill jailing stone throwers for 20 years (http://rt.com/news/201695-israel-stone-throwing-law/)... those in glass houses like. I see Stockholm Syndrome is alive and well and flourishing. Fuckin Nazi's.

[bogan]

You fail to understand the nature of political power ...

The pen has been mightier than the sword (and gun) for a good while now.

[oldrider]

Nun in a taxi .... an ode to Akzle.

A cabbie picks up a Nun. She gets into the cab, and notices that the VERY handsome cab driver won't stop staring at her. She asks him why he is staring.

He replies: 'I have a question to ask you but I don't want to offend you.'

She answers, 'My son, you cannot offend me. When you're as old as I am and have been a nun as long as I have, you get a chance to see and hear just about everything.

I'm sure that there's nothing you could say ask or do that I would find offensive.'

'Well, I've always had a fantasy to have a nun kiss me.'

She responds, 'Well, let's see what we can do about that: #1, you have to be single and #2, you must be Catholic.'

The cab driver is very excited and says, 'Yes, I'm single and Catholic!'

'OK' the nun says. 'Pull into the next alley.'

The nun fulfills his fantasy, with a kiss that would make a hooker blush.

But when they get back on the road, the cab driver starts crying.

'My dear child,' says the nun, 'why are you crying?'

'Forgive me but I've sinned. I lied and I must Confess, I'm married and I'm Jewish.'

The nun says, 'That's OK. My name is Akzle and I'm going to a Halloween Party.' .... :wait:

[Banditbandit]

The pen has been mightier than the sword (and gun) for a good while now.

Oh ... 'kay ... I guess that's why the pen is currently working so well in Afghanistan .. Syria .. Iraq ...

[bogan]

Oh ... 'kay ... I guess that's why the pen is currently working so well in Afghanistan .. Syria .. Iraq ...

The exceptions which prove the rule.

What did they sign the treaty or waitungi with again?

[Scuba_Steve]

The exceptions which prove the rule.

What did they sign the treaty or waitungi with again?

The pen only works while people are willing to obey it, so really the pen only works while the sword is not being used

[awa355]

Going to stick this here. Another dumb gang mentality or something more sinister?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11352299

[mashman]

MPs to escape expenses investigations after paperwork destroyed by Parliament (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/11204405/MPs-to-escape-expenses-investigations-after-paperwork-destroyed-by-Parliament.html)... bwaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa. Lies and deception.

[Brian d marge]

Going to stick this here. Another dumb gang mentality or something more sinister?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11352299
Te Amorangi Izhaq Kireka-Whaanga titi fifi coathanger washington jr

[blue rider]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10710731_773926739332513_8761638554081387403_n.png ?oh=f5b1cad9e7b762a9a930a3faf081df71&oe=54F8C7BB&__gda__=1424944899_90f44daab9f5fa18d2290054067b7a9 3

[blue rider]

from one of those dis-reputable resources online, a few graphs :)

http://qz.com/289390/for-halloween-the-10-scariest-economic-charts-in-the-world/

[Brian d marge]

from one of those dis-reputable resources online, a few graphs :)

http://qz.com/289390/for-halloween-the-10-scariest-economic-charts-in-the-world/
Still mustnt grumble . . .mustnt grumble

That cooking program is on tv tonite , . .i like that

[blue rider]

General Petraeus in his own words

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/david-petraeus-ex-cia-head-says-security-must-be-balanced-by-privacy-1.2820197


"The general thrust of this always has to be, again, to strike that proper balance between taking measures that, at the end of the day, are in some cases intrusive, that is what surveillance is all about after all, and yet allow the freedoms as much as is absolutely possible, to the citizens of a country that prides those freedoms greatly," he said.

:laugh:

[Brian d marge]

Poor hard up peoplehttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/02/792f38f9c854272f87eee1d4c1f94abb.jpg

Should cut their hair and get a real job

[mashman]

Plight of Ebola orphans revealed (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/25416738/plight-of-ebola-orphans-revealed/). Yet more world failure.

[blue rider]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuUBCF3KKxc

nothing much has changed since

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/opinion/political-report-not-without-evidence/#.VFdfynvYJxE.facebook


This is something the Prime Minister needs to clearly explain when he makes his speech on Wednesday.

Yet it appears such a level of detail may not be forthcoming. When asked this weekend if direct threat evidence would be presented, Mr Key signalled that would be unlikely. Unfortunately this level of disclosure is in line with the attitude displayed by our authorities on the nature and scope of the foreign fighter problem.

So far neither the SIS or the Department of Internal Affairs have released the sort of information that would allow the public to gauge how many Kiwis have sought to fight for terrorist groups, and how many of them have had their passports revoked.

This is not good enough.

Any Government that seeks to curtail a fundamental freedom like the freedom of movement must give, not only clear reasons for its actions, but also specific and comprehensive evidence to back its case. A government’s de facto position should be to protect personal freedoms and civil liberties, not limit them.


Someone who today would be considered a terrorist and a prime candidate for an indefinite stay at guantanamo bay once said this: Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

But then dear Leader is not giving up his essential Liberties, as he believes, and rightly so, that his status and money will always buy him some liberties. It is our Liberties that he is happy curtailing.

[Akzle]

status and money will always buy him some liberties.

http://www.guncity.com/img/?syscmd=picoverlay&picID=171225&text=&col=cc0000&angle=15&size=11&font=Verdana&flags=4&quality=90&loc=1094&spacing=0&resizeTo=290&prdID=242988

http://www.guncity.com/hornady-308-168-gr-z-max-xidp242988.html

[mashman]

Firefighters' strike: Ricky Matthews' walkout 'illegal' (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-29879531)... fuckin nazi's.

[bogan]

You no worksky, send to gulag; then you make worksky.

[avgas]

Off to the tip
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[oldrider]

This stuff happens because .... only 1 in 3 admit to questioning the "AUTHORISED" versions .... the rest become staunch defenders of TPTB! :yes:

Simply quoting KB statistical information there is a 1% margin of error in the survey methodology. :scratch:

[bogan]

This stuff happens because only 2 in 3 have an I.Q above that of a chicken :yawn:

[mashman]

This stuff happens because .... only 1 in 3 admit to questioning the "AUTHORISED" versions .... the rest become staunch defenders of TPTB! :yes:

Simply quoting KB statistical information there is a 1% margin of error in the survey methodology. :scratch:

Yet 50% of KB confirmed that they would live in an NZ without money. Better odds for swinging a majority. Maybe that majority will allow all of those investigations that are needed to be had :shit:

[bogan]

Yet 50% of KB confirmed that they would live in an NZ without money.

Yet less than 0.01% were willing to actively pursue that outcome.

[mashman]

Yet less than 0.01% were willing to actively pursue that outcome.

Likely the same number who know about an R.B.E., as well as having the testicular fortitude to vote for something real for a change. Onwards and upwards laddy :woohoo:

[Brian d marge]

Firefighters' strike: Ricky Matthews' walkout 'illegal' (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-29879531)... fuckin nazi's.
Just work to rule when an mp s house burns down
Same with the medical prof . .

The arses

[Brian d marge]

This stuff happens because only 2 in 3 have an I.Q above that of a chicken :yawn:
Doesnt bode well forth the rest of new zealand then

[bogan]

Likely the same number who know about an R.B.E., as well as having the testicular fortitude to vote for something real for a change. Onwards and upwards laddy :woohoo:

A such a low proportion is likely due to the laziness and incompetence of the system's proponents. Steady as she goes, homie :yes:

[mashman]

A such a low proportion is likely due to the laziness and incompetence of the system's proponents. Steady as she goes, homie :yes:

You know what you know. Can't wait til ALL get to decide :wari:

[blue rider]

roast busters.
a comment
a few pdfs
and a sad story

over a hundred girls, a core of 5 'boys' and a mere extra 30 'boys' as bystanders and a police that has lied publicly about the case, that wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars on 'monitoring' the group and that got nothing done.

http://www.sexualpoliticsnow.org.nz/where-to-after-operation-clover/

[Akzle]

roast busters.
a comment
a few pdfs
and a sad story

over a hundred girls, a core of 5 'boys' and a mere extra 30 'boys' as bystanders and a police that has lied publicly about the case, that wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars on 'monitoring' the group and that got nothing done.

http://www.sexualpoliticsnow.org.nz/where-to-after-operation-clover/

hey!
ONLY five girls made formal complaints.
Not nearly worth doing anything about.
YAY society!

[Scuba_Steve]

hey!
Ones related to a cop, another a "movie star"
They spent alot of time "justifying" why they can't do anything about it
YAY corruption!

^ fixed that for you :innocent:

[mashman]

Or perhaps the iranian girl going to jail because she was watching a volleyball game.

[Brian d marge]

Or perhaps the iranian girl going to jail because she was watching a volleyball game.
Should have watched the netball

[blue rider]

I honestly don't know what Dear Leader remembers or what he does not remember.

but really. Really?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Uqqwr-wXA

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[Brian d marge]

[QUOTE=blue rider;1130788324]I honestly don't know what Dear Leader remembers or what he does not remember.

but really. Really?


/QUOTE]

Ive had personal dealings with that arse D carter ..., moran ...speaker of the house ,,,fk... I remember him as a fkin farmer in Canterbury ....

As for the exchange , look thats a good example of the debate in the house , Ibve been in there and watched them fling a rugby ball around ,,like it was all a joke . I had to apologize the the person I was with , as the fkers were an embarrassment ..

Shonkey? lets make a list of things he has blatantly lied about ...

Selling our money , which helped old Andy make a killing
This lie ...about the fossil fuels

How many others ?

Fk , you lot are going to get raped in his final year .....sux to be you

Damn
shonkey , ur nothing better than a bit of

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Stephen

[Brian d marge]

Kama???
Fast food behemoth McDonald’s is struggling to remain relevant.
It reported a larger-than-expected drop in profits Tuesday morning. Net income for the third quarter fell 30% to $1.07 billion ($1.09 per share) from $1.52 billion ($1.52 per share) a year ago.
“McDonald’s third quarter results reflect a significant decline versus a year ago, with our business and financial performance pressured by a variety of factors – from a higher effective tax rate, to unusual events in the operating environments in APMEA and Europe (http://www.forbes.com/europe-news/), to under-performance in the U.S., our largest geographic segment,” said McDonald’s President and Chief Executive Officer Don Thompson.

[mashman]

Kama???
Fast food behemoth McDonald’s is struggling to remain relevant.
It reported a larger-than-expected drop in profits Tuesday morning. Net income for the third quarter fell 30% to $1.07 billion ($1.09 per share) from $1.52 billion ($1.52 per share) a year ago.
“McDonald’s third quarter results reflect a significant decline versus a year ago, with our business and financial performance pressured by a variety of factors – from a higher effective tax rate, to unusual events in the operating environments in APMEA and Europe (http://www.forbes.com/europe-news/), to under-performance in the U.S., our largest geographic segment,” said McDonald’s President and Chief Executive Officer Don Thompson.

That'll be the workers' fault. They should sell more burgers and should accept that their underskilled job is overpaid. Just sack a few a things'll look rosey next year when the economy bounces back and people start spending what they don't have.

[Scuba_Steve]

Kama???
Fast food behemoth McDonald’s is struggling to remain relevant.
It reported a larger-than-expected drop in profits Tuesday morning. Net income for the third quarter fell 30% to $1.07 billion ($1.09 per share) from $1.52 billion ($1.52 per share) a year ago.
“McDonald’s third quarter results reflect a significant decline versus a year ago, with our business and financial performance pressured by a variety of factors – from a higher effective tax rate, to unusual events in the operating environments in APMEA and Europe (http://www.forbes.com/europe-news/), to under-performance in the U.S., our largest geographic segment,” said McDonald’s President and Chief Executive Officer Don Thompson.

Well that could be fixed instantly... Drop the "healthy" campaign

[blue rider]

sums it up nicely

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10612860_774761995915654_1866987721158339094_n.jpg ?oh=6f3d87a635ca645e46e7473c2a7b57ea&oe=54DB50B0&__gda__=1425303404_74c20382c586104884b024cb2e9d4dd 7

[Brian d marge]

strange how Mc d proffits drop by a dramatic amount ,,,,JUST when the workers are asking for a pay rise !

Cnts

Stephen

[Akzle]

^ fixed that for you :innocent:
yeah, that's what i said...

sums it up nicely
((third term image))
:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=305067&stc=1&d=1415152982

[Brian d marge]

What did i say
Tthe republicans have won the elections

Stand by for more bullshit of a crappier kind

[oldrider]

What did i say
Tthe republicans have won the elections

Stand by for more bullshit of a crappier kind

Meanwhile SKY TV continues to buy and screen repeat programs of "finding Sasquatch" so that we can bring our education levels up to match that of the USA! :rolleyes:

Whatever you do, if you have questions about USA foreign policy or it's incestuously unnatural relationship with Israel keep it to your self because self righteous New Zealand USA "protectors" will attack you unmercifully! ... They have obviously been programmed to do this! :kick:

[Brian d marge]

If the sales fiqures come out low or non existant next year . . Ie the m1 rate is through the floor and or the stock market continues to rise as will house prices

Im running to the hills and pulling the drawbridge up

Actually im really considering buying a shitty bit of land in the middle of nowhere and paying my tax as a percentage of what i earn . ,wonder what they will do with a box of spuds .:D

[mashman]

Educational apartheid is Scotland’s greatest national disgrace (http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/11/educational-apartheid-is-scotlands-greatest-national-disgrace/)

"In other words, broadly speaking, the overall picture is the same as it was ten years ago"

[Ocean1]

Educational apartheid is Scotland’s greatest national disgrace

Apartheid?

Just people having kids they can't afford I'd say. And blaming rich pricks for it.

[bogan]

Educational apartheid is Scotland’s greatest national disgrace (http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/11/educational-apartheid-is-scotlands-greatest-national-disgrace/)

"In other words, broadly speaking, the overall picture is the same as it was ten years ago"

Get a plane ticket, with more uneducated you might get more than 0.01% support...

[mashman]

Get a plane ticket, with more uneducated you might get more than 0.01% support...

Funny, and quite obviously given your efforts to date, but it's the highly educated that understand an R.B.E.

[bogan]

Funny, and quite obviously given your efforts to date, but it's the highly educated that understand an R.B.E.

Yeh but now you are talking about a different benchmark of being 'highly educated', obviously the standard your article talks about is the traditional science and fact based stuff, while the 'highly educated' people you refer to are generally those not 'burdened' by things like science, facts, or logic.

[mashman]

Yeh but now you are talking about a different benchmark of being 'highly educated', obviously the standard your article talks about is the traditional science and fact based stuff, while the 'highly educated' people you refer to are generally those not 'burdened' by things like science, facts, or logic.

Nope, you're deciding what my benchmark is for me as per usual and therefore disqualifying any opinion that you may have. Hence the reason for removing you from the afore mentioned highly educated "grouping".

[bogan]

Nope, you're deciding what my benchmark is for me as per usual and therefore disqualifying any opinion that you may have. Hence the reason for removing you from the afore mentioned highly educated "grouping".

Exactly my point, I am highly educated by the traditional standard (masters degree, 130+ iq), what my opinions are cannot disqualify me from that group; yet you use a different benchmark to ensure they do. Hench why I suggested you buy a plane ticked and go be where there are more of your kind.

[mashman]

Exactly my point, I am highly educated by the traditional standard (masters degree, 130+ iq), what my opinions are cannot disqualify me from that group; yet you use a different benchmark to ensure they do. Hench why I suggested you buy a plane ticked and go be where there are more of your kind.

Thanks for underlining my point.

[Akzle]

Exactly my point, I am highly educated by the traditional standard (masters degree, 130+ iq), what my opinions are cannot disqualify me from that group;

and yet yuu sooooo dumm!

[mashman]

Sounds vaguely familiar... didn't johnny boy key mention something about selling council houses. uk wannabees.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ8ryFVY8pQ&index=1&list=UU43nIp-o5OiTz8T8xYIpg-A

[bogan]

and yet yuu sooooo dumm!

This right here is the problem with plebs today, the basis of the 'stupid world', is the ideal that those who do not agree with the aforementioned pleb's must be considered stupid by said pleb, regardless of their actual intellect.
There just isn't room for self improvement with that mindset, and without self improvement comes stagnation and an eventual backslide into stupidity.
Luckily this stupidity does seem more prevalent online that it really is, then again maybe I just have a higher class of irl associates.

[Ocean1]

This right here is the problem with plebs today, the basis of the 'stupid world', is the ideal that those who do not agree with the aforementioned pleb's must be considered stupid by said pleb, regardless of their actual intellect.

In fact you can probably track the offending IQ fairly accurately as an inverse function of the level of desperation and insistence in the assertions that everyone else is stupid.

[Brian d marge]

This right here is the problem with plebs today, the basis of the 'stupid world', is the ideal that those who do not agree with the aforementioned pleb's must be considered stupid by said pleb, regardless of their actual intellect.
There just isn't room for self improvement with that mindset, and without self improvement comes stagnation and an eventual backslide into stupidity.
Luckily this stupidity does seem more prevalent online that it really is, then again maybe I just have a higher class of irl associates.
Oh no
Stupidity is rife .

There will be one along shortly to show how its done

The ones with bits of paper are the scary ones they advise the truly stupid

Whom then direct the mass stupid into a catotonic state of which the analogy of sheep is often used to descibe

Never under estimate the power of stupid

[Brian d marge]

Sounds vaguely familiar... didn't johnny boy key mention something about selling council houses. uk wannabees.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ8ryFVY8pQ&index=1&list=UU43nIp-o5OiTz8T8xYIpg-A
Carpenter estate was just down road from me
Its ok as far as estates go

But this aint the first time this has happened . . In fact the first estate albert grove ? E1 was made by slum clearances with no compensation

In fact so were most if not all of the train stations

Me . . My thoughts would be i wonder how much rent they would collect on a smoking ruin

Or how much they would lose if they modernised the place but no one wanted to live there .

Just sayin


Stephen

[Brian d marge]

In fact you can probably track the offending IQ fairly accurately as an inverse function of the level of desperation and insistence in the assertions that everyone else is stupid.
Go back and have a look at ur track record . . . .:eek:

[Ocean1]

Go back and have a look at ur track record . . . .:eek:

Don't have to. Just count the number of posts in this thread bitching about every other cunt.

When it comes to inverse IQ snobbery you just can't get more qualified than to be recognised as a fully paid up citizen of Stupid World.

[mashman]

This right here is the problem with plebs today, the basis of the 'stupid world', is the ideal that those who do not agree with the aforementioned pleb's must be considered stupid by said pleb, regardless of their actual intellect.
There just isn't room for self improvement with that mindset, and without self improvement comes stagnation and an eventual backslide into stupidity.
Luckily this stupidity does seem more prevalent online that it really is, then again maybe I just have a higher class of irl associates.

The brighter they are the stupider they are, primarily as they try to defend an, what I would describe, indefensible position. Or some shit like that. I'm improving all the time... and you know what you know.
Why do I need improving? I'm not the one that limits creative intelligence to IQ points.
No doubt you do. Everyone I know's a wanker... but they're all I can attract.

[mashman]

Carpenter estate was just down road from me
Its ok as far as estates go

But this aint the first time this has happened . . In fact the first estate albert grove ? E1 was made by slum clearances with no compensation

In fact so were most if not all of the train stations

Me . . My thoughts would be i wonder how much rent they would collect on a smoking ruin

Or how much they would lose if they modernised the place but no one wanted to live there .

Just sayin


Stephen

Tis what happens when ya need to get rid of them noisy wapscallions from next door. Cynical maybe, but fucksake some people grow old way before their time.

Rent. Bet there's an LAQC equivalent for that sort of shit.

They'd flattened a place where I used to live in Glasgow the last time we went back. Green grass there the noo and the posh houses approaching rapidly. Even the car yard out the back has gone. Shame as it made the occasional nice fire.

[bogan]

The brighter they are the stupider they are, primarily as they try to defend an, what I would describe, indefensible position. Or some shit like that. I'm improving all the time... and you know what you know.
Why do I need improving? I'm not the one that limits creative intelligence to IQ points.
No doubt you do. Everyone I know's a wanker... but they're all I can attract.

See, there it is. Brighter they are, the brighter they are, it isn't opposite world. It is not a limitation, bright people disagreeing with you should give you the hint maybe you are wrong (might be a difficult concept to entertain I know).
We all need improving. Creativity is not limited by I.Q. quite the opposite in fact. Creativity in the actual sense of the word, to create things within this reality. While you may consider things like the money free party creative, nothing of note has actually been created because the theoretical underpinnings are lacking; you can imagine how good it could be all you like, but that is not creating anything.

[mashman]

Don't have to. Just count the number of posts in this thread bitching about every other cunt.

When it comes to inverse IQ snobbery you just can't get more qualified than to be recognised as a fully paid up citizen of Stupid World.

I love the ironing.

[mashman]

See, there it is. Brighter they are, the brighter they are, it isn't opposite world. It is not a limitation, bright people disagreeing with you should give you the hint maybe you are wrong (might be a difficult concept to entertain I know).
We all need improving. Creativity is not limited by I.Q. quite the opposite in fact. Creativity in the actual sense of the word, to create things within this reality. While you may consider things like the money free party creative, nothing of note has actually been created because the theoretical underpinnings are lacking; you can imagine how good it could be all you like, but that is not creating anything.

You don't think I've considered that I'm out of my mind barking mad after 6 years (on and off) of thinking about it? Dear boy.
I know what creativity is. I am practicing it.
The so called theoretical underpinnings are of your own making. Why? Because I have a solution for them, and in my solution people understand the benefits by far outweigh the negatives and therefore do the very thing that has been suggested. That suggestion could come from you, Ocean, Oscar, Akzle, Ed, Katman, Mom, CC, Husabang, unstuck, Madness, James Deuce, HITCHER, yokel... anyone, and the suggestion stands in its own right. Just in case you missed the point there, I ain't the lord almighty, there is no it's my way or the highway etc... tis just doing the best we can without the vast array of negative outcomes that a financial system hamstrings us with.

That is what Stupid World is to me. In that context, you guys are lulz.

[bogan]

You don't think I've considered that I'm out of my mind barking mad after 6 years (on and off) of thinking about it? Dear boy.
I know what creativity is. I am practicing it.
The so called theoretical underpinnings are of your own making. Why? Because I have a solution for them, and in my solution people understand the benefits by far outweigh the negatives and therefore do the very thing that has been suggested. That suggestion could come from you, Ocean, Oscar, Akzle, Ed, Katman, Mom, CC, Husabang, unstuck, Madness, James Deuce, HITCHER, yokel... anyone, and the suggestion stands in its own right. Just in case you missed the point there, I ain't the lord almighty, there is no it's my way or the highway etc... tis just doing the best we can without the vast array of negative outcomes that a financial system hamstrings us with.

That is what Stupid World is to me. In that context, you guys are lulz.

Clearly not enough, the FRB discussion was an example of that, you came in with preconceived ideas that were beaten back through application of logic and reality, but then your arguments retreated into the more abstract simply because you decided the cost of changing your mind was to great; that barrier to learning was too high for you to overcome.
You are practicing imagination, as evidenced by your conclusion that the underpinnings are all my own making. You have not created anything, as the creation of the thing you strive for would dispel all doubts I might have about it. I can imagine a reality in which artificial gravity, space travel, and all such things are possible, and it can make perfect sense within this imagined reality, but unless its underpinning are grounded in ours, it is not practical. And the only way to show this, is to create. So I ask, what have you created? not imagined, created!

Until you gain an objective view based in this reality, you will remain as stupid in this world; no matter how high you hold yourself in your own fairyland.

[Brian d marge]

Don't have to. Just count the number of posts in this thread bitching about every other cunt.

When it comes to inverse IQ snobbery you just can't get more qualified than to be recognised as a fully paid up citizen of Stupid World.
Tried failed . . . I just went

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/06/9183092aa999a6524577ae95ae3060b0.jpg

[mashman]

Clearly not enough, the FRB discussion was an example of that, you came in with preconceived ideas that were beaten back through application of logic and reality, but then your arguments retreated into the more abstract simply because you decided the cost of changing your mind was to great; that barrier to learning was too high for you to overcome.
You are practicing imagination, as evidenced by your conclusion that the underpinnings are all my own making. You have not created anything, as the creation of the thing you strive for would dispel all doubts I might have about it. I can imagine a reality in which artificial gravity, space travel, and all such things are possible, and it can make perfect sense within this imagined reality, but unless its underpinning are grounded in ours, it is not practical. And the only way to show this, is to create. So I ask, what have you created? not imagined, created!

Until you gain an objective view based in this reality, you will remain as stupid in this world; no matter how high you hold yourself in your own fairyland.

Oh dear...

[Brian d marge]

Dont laugh ,

its coming to a town near u

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but we have this ....

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Stephen

[mashman]

Dont laugh ,

its coming to a town near u

but we have this ....


Stephen

Out of touch scared old white muthafuckas v's sheeple. It ain't gonna end well.

[bogan]

Crowd funding, giving power back to the people; an emergent R.B.E even?

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[Ocean1]

Crowd funding, giving power back to the people; an emergent R.B.E even?

>

Have we done the P2P thing yet?

[mashman]

Crowd funding, giving power back to the people; an emergent R.B.E even?


I believe the Venus Project have used crowd funding and who knows, it may well lead to an R.B.E.

[bogan]

Have we done the P2P thing yet?

Depends on what context you mean P2P...

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[unstuck]

http://thespiritscience.net/2014/10/26/still-unsure-about-alien-life-this-settles-it/ :shifty:

[Scuba_Steve]

I can imagine a reality in which artificial gravity, space travel, and all such things are possible,

Doesn't this shit actually already exist tho... So you're not so much imagining a reality as you are imagining within reality.



Also with the whole "intelligence" thing, a genius with his head in the ground is less useful that an idiot experimenting.
I don't care how intelligent someone is if they're not willing to look outside some arbitrary defined parameters they might as well be an imbecile.
Intelligence doesn't stop anyone from being blind

[unstuck]

Doesn't this shit actually already exist tho... So you're not so much imagining a reality as you are imagining within reality.

According to the ex cia fella in that link I shared, yes.:shifty:

[bogan]

Doesn't this shit actually already exist tho... So you're not so much imagining a reality as you are imagining within reality.



Also with the whole "intelligence" thing, a genius with his head in the ground is less useful that an idiot experimenting.
I don't care how intelligent someone is if they're not willing to look outside some arbitrary defined parameters they might as well be an imbecile.
Intelligence doesn't stop anyone from being blind

Not to the degree I can imagine it, and certainly not using the same underlying principals.

Yeh I agree, smart people can sometimes be thick as pig shit, but there is no causative factor there. However a genius has an advantage in determining which parameters are arbitrarily defined, and which are grounded in reality.

[Akzle]

which are grounded in reality.

no, because reality is relative.

[oldrider]

no, because reality is relative.

My perception is my reality ... so I guess that makes it relative!? :mellow:

[unstuck]

My perception is my reality ... so I guess that makes it relative!? :mellow:

A relative perception. :niceone:

[bogan]

no, because reality is relative.

Take a relatively imaginative view of how gravity works then, and take a jump off a relatively large cliff and let us know how that goes, relatively speaking.

[blue rider]

lalalala

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-9-billion-witness-20141106

[Akzle]

Take a relatively imaginative view of how gravity works then, and take a jump off a relatively large cliff and let us know how that goes, relatively speaking.

that's actually exactly my plan for tomorrow.

how's those carrots?

[Brian d marge]

More from this awesome thinker:

"A diverse community is a resilient community, capable of adapting to changing situations. However, diversity is a strategic advantage only if there is a truly vibrant community, sustained by a web of relationships. If the community is fragmented into isolated groups and individuals, diversity can easily become a source of prejudice and friction. But if the community is aware of the interdependence of all its members, diversity will enrich all the relationships and thus enrich the community as a whole, as well as each individual member. In such a community information and ideas flow freely through the entire network, and the diversity of interpretations and learning styles-even the diversity of mistakes-will enrich the entire community."
Varela (1977)

[mashman]

no, because reality is relative.

Requires intellectual empathy.

[mashman]

More from this awesome thinker:

"A diverse community is a resilient community, capable of adapting to changing situations. However, diversity is a strategic advantage only if there is a truly vibrant community, sustained by a web of relationships. If the community is fragmented into isolated groups and individuals, diversity can easily become a source of prejudice and friction. But if the community is aware of the interdependence of all its members, diversity will enrich all the relationships and thus enrich the community as a whole, as well as each individual member. In such a community information and ideas flow freely through the entire network, and the diversity of interpretations and learning styles-even the diversity of mistakes-will enrich the entire community."
Varela (1977)

Nicely put...

[unstuck]

More from this awesome thinker:

"A diverse community is a resilient community, capable of adapting to changing situations. However, diversity is a strategic advantage only if there is a truly vibrant community, sustained by a web of relationships. If the community is fragmented into isolated groups and individuals, diversity can easily become a source of prejudice and friction. But if the community is aware of the interdependence of all its members, diversity will enrich all the relationships and thus enrich the community as a whole, as well as each individual member. In such a community information and ideas flow freely through the entire network, and the diversity of interpretations and learning styles-even the diversity of mistakes-will enrich the entire community."
Varela (1977)

We are one.:niceone:

[Ocean1]

Depends on what context you mean P2P...

<Fillum>

The other one. https://www.harmoney.com/how-it-works

I'm amazed Stupid World hasn't been tripping over it's collective bottom lip trumpeting the end of evel bank domination of the financial sector.

I mean, fuck, real actual money not pulled out of fresh air!

[mashman]

The other one. https://www.harmoney.com/how-it-works

I'm amazed Stupid World hasn't been tripping over it's collective bottom lip trumpeting the end of evel bank domination of the financial sector.

I mean, fuck, real actual money not pulled out of fresh air!

Cute name. Like bitcoin, peercoin etc... The names may change but it doesn't protect the innocent from the entitlement complex brigade. I know, not your concern. And no, I'm not after a wounding, I want it dead and buried.

Like that's a solution. It's still plucked out of the air. Just because it is backed by nothing more than confidence in a market, I'm guessing it'll change nothing as it's still just money getting to the same people. What it's valued against, excluding the resources inherent value, matters not... it never has. Bury it deep and execute the zealots that follow such a false idol.

[Brian d marge]

The other one. https://www.harmoney.com/how-it-works

I'm amazed Stupid World hasn't been tripping over it's collective bottom lip trumpeting the end of evel bank domination of the financial sector.

I mean, fuck, real actual money not pulled out of fresh air!
Ill give u ten gold coins

U can lend out as much as u want and at any interest rate

And at then end of the day you will still have10 gold coins

Unless . . . . . .

[Brian d marge]

btw

If everybody would agree that their current reality is a reality, and that what we essentially share is our capacity for constructing a reality, then perhaps we could all agree on a meta-agreement for computing a reality that would mean survival and dignity for everyone on the planet, rather than each group being sold on a particular way of doing things.
- Francisco Varela (1946-2001) Biologist, Philosopher.

Smart people them fillies


Stephen

[unstuck]

I would say that current reality is only an illusion of reality.:2thumbsup
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[Ocean1]

Cute name. Like bitcoin, peercoin etc... The names may change but it doesn't protect the innocent from the entitlement complex brigade. I know, not your concern. And no, I'm not after a wounding, I want it dead and buried.

Like that's a solution. It's still plucked out of the air. Just because it is backed by nothing more than confidence in a market, I'm guessing it'll change nothing as it's still just money getting to the same people. What it's valued against, excluding the resources inherent value, matters not... it never has. Bury it deep and execute the zealots that follow such a false idol.

It's OK, dude, don't choke on the foam, I wasn't offering you any.

And nor would anyone else with a jot of sense.

[Ocean1]

no, because reality is relative.

Well it's certainly relatively scarce in Stupid World.

[mashman]

It's OK, dude, don't choke on the foam, I wasn't offering you any.

And nor would anyone else with a jot of sense.

I didn't realise I was asking.

Ya never know eh.

[bogan]

The other one. https://www.harmoney.com/how-it-works

I'm amazed Stupid World hasn't been tripping over it's collective bottom lip trumpeting the end of evel bank domination of the financial sector.

I mean, fuck, real actual money not pulled out of fresh air!

That's cool, I had not heard of that. Have you used it at all?

[Ocean1]

That's cool, I had not heard of that. Have you used it at all?

So far it seems stable, I like it as the low risk end of an investment spread.

I like the general concept too, though.

[bogan]

Read this and thought of KB's own stupid worlders...

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8370260736/h1F7ED7DE/

Then faith was at least partially restored...

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8371472896/h766F4566/

[mashman]

Read this and thought of KB's own stupid worlders...


Depends on how you choose to add them... or if you're adding them together to prove a specific point. But I know how dumb I am.

[bogan]

Depends on how you choose to add them... or if you're adding them together to prove a specific point. But I know how dumb I am.

The right way in core maths is not open to choice, any other choice is willfully ignorant, and an explanation for a lack of creativity. This isn't a discussion on how to art.