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Katman
4th December 2015, 12:42
A fair explanation of American politics.
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Brian d marge
4th December 2015, 14:23
A fair explanation of American politics.
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How about the van that was stolen in the british election last
Contained voting papers . .
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yokel
4th December 2015, 17:02
So if this WW3 kicks off, exactly who is the enemy going to be??
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Brian d marge
4th December 2015, 17:22
So if this WW3 kicks off, exactly who is the enemy going to be??
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Forces of anarchy
https://youtu.be/8nxo0fS2VMM
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Brian d marge
4th December 2015, 17:38
And you can kiss goodbye to national radio
Appalling reporting
From that silly mare in the morning presenting documented facts as quote "your opinion"
To the panel today on le penns speech, while promoting hilary benns speech to the house . . .the influences are so clear
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Scuba_Steve
4th December 2015, 18:54
So if this WW3 kicks off, exactly who is the enemy going to be??
Well that all depends on who you support... me, for my "superpower" support I have to go with Russia because Vodka!!! :drinkup:
Akzle
5th December 2015, 18:06
this really has nowhere but here to be:
http://www.nzcpr.com/
really, how do these people get dr in front of their name???
A doctorate in being-a-fucking-moron-and-full-of-horseshit? And that woman. (srsly, there's no way in science that a woman should be called Dr. )
"dayom cleuatus, dem mowrees are gunnae steel thuh crowns's warter like. ayund awl uhss wayte folk um gunna be pooer now y'hea"
it saddens me that these fuckwits arent drowned as a matter of course.
Brian d marge
5th December 2015, 19:23
this really has nowhere but here to be:
http://www.nzcpr.com/
really, how do these people get dr in front of their name???
A doctorate in being-a-fucking-moron-and-full-of-horseshit? And that woman. (srsly, there's no way in science that a woman should be called Dr. )
"dayom cleuatus, dem mowrees are gunnae steel thuh crowns's warter like. ayund awl uhss wayte folk um gunna be pooer now y'hea"
it saddens me that these fuckwits arent drowned as a matter of course.
First demonize a group of people
Next make them scare the shit out of shortland st viewers
Finally annex the sudatenland and blame it on the demonized group
Then send the uninformed over
Eugenics has its place
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oldrider
6th December 2015, 07:38
A debt based system is reliant upon war - war is continuous the only variables are where and how much? :scratch:
Check out history - there is always war somewhere - war is simply supercharged debt on steroids! - You have been conditioned to accept it! - :whocares: - :corn:
Ocean1
6th December 2015, 11:29
this really has nowhere but here to be:
http://www.nzcpr.com/
really, how do these people get dr in front of their name???
A doctorate in being-a-fucking-moron-and-full-of-horseshit? And that woman. (srsly, there's no way in science that a woman should be called Dr. )
"dayom cleuatus, dem mowrees are gunnae steel thuh crowns's warter like. ayund awl uhss wayte folk um gunna be pooer now y'hea"
it saddens me that these fuckwits arent drowned as a matter of course.
Ohyeah, Maori cultural consultancy sinecures always work best for everyone, what could possibly be wrong with that?…
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/collins-wants-monster-maori-board-dumped/ar-AAg3A5M?ocid=spartandhp
Brian d marge
6th December 2015, 15:07
But its islam that the problem . .TV said so
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Akzle
6th December 2015, 16:50
Ohyeah, Maori cultural consultancy sinecures always work best for everyone, what could possibly be wrong with that?…
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/collins-wants-monster-maori-board-dumped/ar-AAg3A5M?ocid=spartandhp
thanks dr ocean.
mashman
6th December 2015, 16:52
Ohyeah, Maori cultural consultancy sinecures always work best for everyone, what could possibly be wrong with that?…
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/collins-wants-monster-maori-board-dumped/ar-AAg3A5M?ocid=spartandhp
Pot, kettle...
oldrider
6th December 2015, 21:33
But its islam that the problem . .TV said so
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." --Voltaire-- :scratch:
bogan
6th December 2015, 21:48
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." --Voltaire-- :scratch:
I don't think you quite understand that one properly... But then, tis the thread for that sort of carry on init :laugh:
mashman
7th December 2015, 07:53
Erdogan says Turkey has proof Russia involved in IS oil trade (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/erdogan-says-turkey-proof-russia-involved-oil-trade-112804544.html#50i8dta)... no doubt there'll be representatives from many oil buying countries wanting to get their hands on cheap oil. Oh the games.
Brian d marge
7th December 2015, 09:32
Erdogan says Turkey has proof Russia involved in IS oil trade (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/erdogan-says-turkey-proof-russia-involved-oil-trade-112804544.html#50i8dta)... no doubt there'll be representatives from many oil buying countries wanting to get their hands on cheap oil. Oh the games.
Oh this will be good
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yokel
7th December 2015, 16:20
Why have there been more mass shootings under Obama than the four previous presidents combined?
https://www.intellihub.com/why-more-mass-shootings-under-obama-previous-presidents/
Mass Shootings under the Last Five Presidents
Ronald Reagan: 1981-1989 (8 years) 11 mass shootings
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 5
George H. W. Bush: 1989-1993 (4 years) 12 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 3
Bill Clinton: 1993-2001 (8 years) 23 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 4
George W. Bush: 2001-2009 (8 years) 20 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 5
Barrack H. Obama: 2009-2015 (in 7th year) 162 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 18.
must be something to do with all the fake shootings going on?
husaberg
7th December 2015, 16:31
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/4/9849390/mass-shootings-count
:2thumbsup
317782
yokel
7th December 2015, 17:19
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/4/9849390/mass-shootings-count
:2thumbsup
Well that was a whole lot of stupid, no wonder you're confused cunt.
Katman
7th December 2015, 17:34
Can the circus possibily get any more bizarre?
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/12/04/san-bernardino-media-hoax-cnn-media-and-victims-families-ransack-suspects-family-home-crime-scene/
Woodman
7th December 2015, 17:34
Why have there been more mass shootings under Obama than the four previous presidents combined?
https://www.intellihub.com/why-more-mass-shootings-under-obama-previous-presidents/
Mass Shootings under the Last Five Presidents
Ronald Reagan: 1981-1989 (8 years) 11 mass shootings
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 5
George H. W. Bush: 1989-1993 (4 years) 12 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 3
Bill Clinton: 1993-2001 (8 years) 23 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 4
George W. Bush: 2001-2009 (8 years) 20 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 5
Barrack H. Obama: 2009-2015 (in 7th year) 162 mass murders
Incidents with 8 or more deaths = 18.
must be something to do with all the fake shootings going on?
I remember when Richard Loe eye gouged Matthew Cooper and they played it over and over again on TV, and everyone was talking about it. Eye gouging then became common place in games of rugger for a while after that. Was on both ends of a few myself.
So the mass shootings are probarbly not conspiratorial, but just rather popular at the moment.
mashman
8th December 2015, 14:43
Iraq PM says Turkey main conduit for Islamic State oil-smuggling (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/world/a/30300912/iraq-pm-says-turkey-main-conduit-for-islamic-state-oil-smuggling/)... but but but iraq is fwiends wiv the u.s. and the u.s. is standing by turkey saying that it's all russia's doing.
Brian d marge
8th December 2015, 15:00
Iraq PM says Turkey main conduit for Islamic State oil-smuggling (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/world/a/30300912/iraq-pm-says-turkey-main-conduit-for-islamic-state-oil-smuggling/)... but but but iraq is fwiends wiv the u.s. and the u.s. is standing by turkey saying that it's all russia's doing.
These truck are high tech
I mean a long line of trucks carrying oil and the dont know who is buying the oil
What must be happening is that the truck have stealth tech
Following the line of trucks is difficult at they just vanish so one cannot determine the destination
A big fkin line of oil carrying trucks driving through a desert and they dont know where the oil is
Bullshyt
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mashman
8th December 2015, 15:26
These truck are high tech
I mean a long line of trucks carrying oil and the dont know who is buying the oil
What must be happening is that the truck have stealth tech
Following the line of trucks is difficult at they just vanish so one cannot determine the destination
A big fkin line of oil carrying trucks driving through a desert and they dont know where the oil is
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1 word: Transformers.
mashman
8th December 2015, 15:28
Finland Will Pay Everyone in the Country $876 a Month (http://usuncut.com/world/finland-plans-to-pay-everyone-in-the-country-876-a-month/)... paid to be alive is gonna make its modern day debut eh. Tis a farkin insult.
yokel
8th December 2015, 15:51
Can the circus possibily get any more bizarre?
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/12/04/san-bernardino-media-hoax-cnn-media-and-victims-families-ransack-suspects-family-home-crime-scene/
Yip, just another hoax shooting.
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Katman
9th December 2015, 07:23
People scream blue murder when ISIS chop off a head but remain deathly silent when a Western 'ally' does considerably worse.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125069/saudi-arabias-depraved-justice
oldrider
9th December 2015, 08:06
People scream blue murder when ISIS chop off a head but remain deathly silent when a Western 'ally' does considerably worse.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125069/saudi-arabias-depraved-justice
KB self righteous will be along to ridicule and condemn you for posting this link referencing man's inhumanity to man - how dare you! :shutup:
Katman
9th December 2015, 10:46
Some interesting questions.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/06/holes/
Brian d marge
9th December 2015, 12:43
See my video i madehttps://vimeo.com/148297059
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oldrider
9th December 2015, 14:06
When they get to his size - they are well past their use-by date! :killingme
The plot is beginning to get so obvious even the supporters of the official line must be having doubts - even asking themselves questions - surely! :scratch:
They would rather die for the cause than admit they have been hoodwinked though! :corn:
Katman
9th December 2015, 14:22
The plot is beginning to get so obvious even the supporters of the official line must be having doubts - even asking themselves questions - surely!
It's why all the tough questions are now being steadfastly ignored.
Brian d marge
9th December 2015, 15:42
Hows that panel in national radio nail em up I say . . Nail em up
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mashman
13th December 2015, 09:14
Good times go for Norway's oil capital (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/good-times-norways-oil-capital-020106601.html)... Oh fuck! we've got too much oil to make stuff with. Quick. Sack people, lots and lots of people. :facepalm:
Ocean1
13th December 2015, 17:00
I expect you lot were down at the waterfront today for a wee opportunistic Stupid World recruitment drive?
Only this lot were there: http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/75048729/antioil-community-flotilla-attracts-hundreds-to-wellington-harbour
Bleating about oil, as usual. While wallowing around our pristine harbour in boats made of 100% oil. Wearing clothing made from oil, waving placards made of oil, written on with pens made of oil, with ink made from oil, having likely driven there............
Moi
13th December 2015, 17:07
I expect you lot were down at the waterfront today for a wee opportunistic Stupid World recruitment drive?
Only this lot were there: http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/75048729/antioil-community-flotilla-attracts-hundreds-to-wellington-harbour
Bleating about oil, as usual. While wallowing around our pristine harbour in boats made of 100% oil. Wearing clothing made from oil, waving placards made of oil, written on with pens made of oil, with ink made from oil, having likely driven there............
It's your last few words that always get to me... having likely driven there
What's the word I'm looking for? hypocritical...
husaberg
13th December 2015, 17:20
I expect you lot were down at the waterfront today for a wee opportunistic Stupid World recruitment drive?
Only this lot were there: http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/75048729/antioil-community-flotilla-attracts-hundreds-to-wellington-harbour
Bleating about oil, as usual. While wallowing around our pristine harbour in boats made of 100% oil. Wearing clothing made from oil, waving placards made of oil, written on with pens made of oil, with ink made from oil, having likely driven there............
You missed typing it out on a keyboard made from...................
awa355
13th December 2015, 17:56
Before plastic!! We managed. :no: ?
http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/whilma.jpg
http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/fred%201.jpg
yokel
13th December 2015, 19:17
Man "identifies" himself as a transgender 6 year Old Girl.
Is that you Bagon?
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mashman
13th December 2015, 20:01
I expect you lot were down at the waterfront today for a wee opportunistic Stupid World recruitment drive?
Only this lot were there: http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/75048729/antioil-community-flotilla-attracts-hundreds-to-wellington-harbour
Bleating about oil, as usual. While wallowing around our pristine harbour in boats made of 100% oil. Wearing clothing made from oil, waving placards made of oil, written on with pens made of oil, with ink made from oil, having likely driven there............
Better than sitting on one's arse and accepting that all is well because the cost of destruction is factored into the cost of production :killingme. Now that really is dangerous hypocrisy.
Ocean1
13th December 2015, 20:12
Better than sitting on one's arse and accepting that all is well because the cost of destruction is factored into the cost of production :killingme. Now that really is dangerous hypocrisy.
Still got it with the wrong doncha?
I don't sit on my arse, I behave as I believe is right. Which is a world more than you do.
Nor do I think all is well, there's far too many fuckwit's that produce fuck all and whine about what everyone else does.
And the cost of RECYCLING is factored into the market price only in Germany as far as I'm aware, and only in some markets.
All of which is a tiny part of the veritable planet load of shit about which you have absolutely no idea.
Now fuck off and play on the motorway like a good wee cretin.
puddytat
13th December 2015, 20:24
So what answers have you got then?
mashman
13th December 2015, 21:09
Still got it with the wrong doncha?
I don't sit on my arse, I behave as I believe is right. Which is a world more than you do.
Nor do I think all is well, there's far too many fuckwit's that produce fuck all and whine about what everyone else does.
And the cost of RECYCLING is factored into the market price only in Germany as far as I'm aware, and only in some markets.
All of which is a tiny part of the veritable planet load of shit about which you have absolutely no idea.
Now fuck off and play on the motorway like a good wee cretin.
No.
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa... Aye, and with yer thumb up yer arse.
Pot kettle.
Recycling :killingme... bolting the gate once the horse has boarded a plane to a neeeeeighbouring country. Fuckin dinosaur.
No. All you have is knowledge that you claim I don't. Highly amusing given your inherent ignorance.
I would, but I'd rather not be a drain on already stretched resources. Should save a few litres so that industry can waste it by producing yet more meaningless and useless shit. I bet you even claim yourself to be a captain of industry too huh?
mashman
15th December 2015, 06:41
Child poverty on rise again: report (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/30364706/child-poverty-on-rise-again-report/#pause)
Ocean1
15th December 2015, 06:49
Child poverty on rise again: report (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/30364706/child-poverty-on-rise-again-report/#pause)
Pretty obvious who's fault that is.
And really really easy to fix: those who earn less than 60% of the average income shouldn't have kids.
mashman
15th December 2015, 10:57
Pretty obvious who's fault that is.
And really really easy to fix: those who earn less than 60% of the average income shouldn't have kids.
Yup, the economy and those captains of industry that actually aren't and are really fucking things up with their entitlement complexes and need to be rewarded for being a good dog.
Average? bwaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Although, as you say, it is easy to fix, because the moment you remove the $ value from the equation, poverty wouldn't exist... but no, that's too hard, that gives people too much for free and they simply don't deserve it and therefore the only viable alternative is, the one that you seem to like the most, forced sterilisation and vaccination. Heil Industry Solutionist!
Ocean1
15th December 2015, 11:17
Yup, the economy and those captains of industry that actually aren't and are really fucking things up with their entitlement complexes and need to be rewarded for being a good dog.
Their customers seem happy enough to pay them, here's an idea: if you don't want what they're selling then don't fucking buy it.
Average? bwaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Although, as you say, it is easy to fix, because the moment you remove the $ value from the equation, poverty wouldn't exist... but no, that's too hard, that gives people too much for free and they simply don't deserve it and therefore the only viable alternative is, the one that you seem to like the most, forced sterilisation and vaccination. Heil Industry Solutionist!
I didn't define "poor". the fuckwits in your link did. And they, like everyone except you used money to do so: under 60% average income is "poor".
And apparently what's "too hard" is earning enough to make your kids "not poor".
And I don't advocate forced anything, in particular I don't advocate forcefully stealing money from people who earned it to give to "poor" people that didn't.
So let's just agree that their definition of "poor" deserves to be right there in inverted comas, and that anywhere outside that their definition is a joke, a hypocritical, disrespectful parody of those in third world countries that really are poor.
mashman
15th December 2015, 12:04
Their customers seem happy enough to pay them, here's an idea: if you don't want what they're selling then don't fucking buy it.
That must have been one hell of a survey to come to that conclusion... although I never got to fill it in.
I didn't define "poor". the fuckwits in your link did. And they, like everyone except you used money to do so: under 60% average income is "poor".
And apparently what's "too hard" is earning enough to make your kids "not poor".
And I don't advocate forced anything, in particular I don't advocate forcefully stealing money from people who earned it to give to "poor" people that didn't.
So let's just agree that their definition of "poor" deserves to be right there in inverted comas, and that anywhere outside that their definition is a joke, a hypocritical, disrespectful parody of those in third world countries that really are poor.
Median, not average. Careful, you'll lose your service industry. Anyhoo, you were always so keen to point out that poverty is a financial measure. Changing your story again? I didn't think you were that boganesque. Perhaps I wasn't reading you correctly.
I blame the wages that the people are given... coz if they were paid well enough, they wouldn't have poor kids.
Not sure how else you're going to achieve your goal of preventing the "poor" from breeding... other than by force that is. Taking away the money that they are entitled to is force as well. So you seem to advocate it across the board on a $ basis. Perhaps you haven't noticed it is you. I have though.
Their definition? Disassociating yourself from a financial measure where you advocate financial measures is highly stupid... in fact it's up there with claiming social responsibility merely because one gives to charity. I have disappoint... I expected "better". If you're offended by the word poor, because there are "poor" people in 3rd world country's, then perhaps you should use words that more closely resemble their situation like, impoverished or destitute.
Ocean1
15th December 2015, 13:05
That must have been one hell of a survey to come to that conclusion... although I never got to fill it in.
Median, not average. Careful, you'll lose your service industry. Anyhoo, you were always so keen to point out that poverty is a financial measure. Changing your story again? I didn't think you were that boganesque. Perhaps I wasn't reading you correctly.
I blame the wages that the people are given... coz if they were paid well enough, they wouldn't have poor kids.
Not sure how else you're going to achieve your goal of preventing the "poor" from breeding... other than by force that is. Taking away the money that they are entitled to is force as well. So you seem to advocate it across the board on a $ basis. Perhaps you haven't noticed it is you. I have though.
Their definition? Disassociating yourself from a financial measure where you advocate financial measures is highly stupid... in fact it's up there with claiming social responsibility merely because one gives to charity. I have disappoint... I expected "better". If you're offended by the word poor, because there are "poor" people in 3rd world country's, then perhaps you should use words that more closely resemble their situation like, impoverished or destitute.
Damn, no Stupid World passport. Again.
Ah well, at least you don't have what it takes to live out here in Real World.
bogan
15th December 2015, 16:02
Changing your story again? I didn't think you were that boganesque. Perhaps I wasn't reading you correctly.
Strange adjective since the rare times I need to I'm up front about it. Of course you'll counter with claims I do but no evidence as always, or maybe you'll just change your own story; that's certainly been known to happen :whistle: :killingme
mashman
15th December 2015, 17:15
Damn, no Stupid World passport. Again.
Ah well, at least you don't have what it takes to live out here in Real World.
WTF? Mate, change "bogeyman" to "President". Tis your world.
True. I ditched that though and found something else, primarily as I found that living the "Real World" was counter-productive to a Real Future.
Strange adjective since the rare times I need to I'm up front about it. Of course you'll counter with claims I do but no evidence as always, or maybe you'll just change your own story; that's certainly been known to happen :whistle: :killingme
Rare? lulz. Thank you for proving that I can, and do indeed change my mind. You may wanna try it someday :D So, the adjective is safe and built upon solid foundations ;)
bogan
15th December 2015, 17:24
Rare? lulz. Thank you for proving that I can, and do indeed change my mind. You may wanna try it someday :D So, the adjective is safe and built upon solid foundations ;)
Called it, no foundations supplied; just like your pissant money free ideals. And an FYI, I supplied no proof that you can change your story/mind, just made the claim; perhaps where you go wrong is you confuse the two :laugh:
mashman
15th December 2015, 17:31
Called it, no foundations supplied; just like your pissant money free ideals. And an FYI, I supplied no proof that you can change your story/mind, just made the claim; perhaps where you go wrong is you confuse the two :laugh:
Fair enough.
Ocean1
15th December 2015, 17:57
WTF? Mate, change "bogeyman" to "President". Tis your world.
It only counts when someone else give you the name.
True. I ditched that though and found something else, primarily as I found that living the "Real World" was counter-productive to a Real Future.
I can see that. It takes Real Talent to survive anywhere Real.
jonbuoy
15th December 2015, 19:07
Pretty obvious who's fault that is.
And really really easy to fix: those who earn less than 60% of the average income shouldn't have kids.
The worry is a lot of people with common sense and a half a brain realise this and don't breed so we get less people with common sense and half a brain. Meanwhile the ones who think it's everyone else's place to bring up their kids are breeding like mice.
mashman
15th December 2015, 20:15
It only counts when someone else give you the name.
Ah, I see your problem ;)... you need someone else to define you.
I can see that. It takes Real Talent to survive anywhere Real.
I'm sure there's a deep message in there somewhere.
oldrider
15th December 2015, 22:22
Satisfied with the way our stupid world is tracking right now? - If not do these films help explain in any way at all why? http://www.thecrowhouse.com/nwofs.html
J.A.W.
15th December 2015, 23:23
Pretty obvious who's fault that is.
And really really easy to fix: those who earn less than 60% of the average income shouldn't have kids.
Yeah, wasn't so long ago that the Kiwi bloke on the average wage could afford to buy a home & keep a housewife to raise the kids..
Nowadays wifey will have be working to pay the mortgage too, so kids are out.. by abortion on request, if wanted..
Yet kids born into poverty are sponsored by the DPB.. false economy? Where's a bloody eugenics program when you need it..
mashman
16th December 2015, 09:32
Global supermarkets selling shrimp peeled by slaves (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ap-global-supermarkets-selling-shrimp-peeled-slaves-111008690.html)
mashman
16th December 2015, 16:39
Company Selling ‘Bottled Air’ Sells Out in 4 Days as China’s Smog Crisis Deepens (http://usuncut.com/climate/chinas-smog-is-so-bad-its-started-buying-bottled-air-from-canada/)... bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a
Akzle
16th December 2015, 17:58
Company Selling ‘Bottled Air’ Sells Out in 4 Days as China’s Smog Crisis Deepens (http://usuncut.com/climate/chinas-smog-is-so-bad-its-started-buying-bottled-air-from-canada/)... bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a
would you like a lorax with that?
J.A.W.
16th December 2015, 21:58
would you like a lorax with that?
Loraxapam, did you.. ah, Lorazepam.. more like.. but then again.. 'tis the season of the Grinch..
mashman
17th December 2015, 08:23
In support of a Universal Basic Income – introducing the RSA Basic Income Model (https://www.thersa.org/discover/publications-and-articles/rsa-blogs/2015/12/in-support-of-a-universal-basic-income--introducing-the-rsa-basic-income-model)... yet still no Financial Transaction Tax to radically simplify taxation. I mean, why not just tax the $ exchanged on each transaction? It's what currently happens, although it's done via an "honesty" system that costs 10/100's of millions and that workforce must be bored out of their minds. Meh. Games.
mashman
17th December 2015, 08:25
would you like a lorax with that?
I didn't even get a thneed.
Scuba_Steve
17th December 2015, 20:12
Again China leads the way to our future...
If success expect it coming to a Western nation near you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI
yokel
20th December 2015, 06:09
The Abiotic Oil Theory.
Is this why they want to get away from "fossil" fuel?
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hu_R3gp84TY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
And now the US after 40 years want to start exporting crude oil?
I take it this is a move to upset Putin and others.
https://youtu.be/hdcc_I0Vs0M
yokel
20th December 2015, 06:21
Are there fossils 35,055 feet deep in the earth crust?
http://lubbockonline.com/stories/090309/bus_489121723.shtml#.VnWfPrZ97iw
"At 35,055 feet, it is as deep as Mount Everest is tall, not including more than 4,000 feet of water above it. Drilling at those depths shows how far major oil producers will go to find new supplies as global reserves dwindle, and how technology has advanced, allowing them to reach once-unimaginable depths."
mashman
20th December 2015, 13:23
Pentagon: US strike that killed Iraqi soldiers could be 'mistake' by both sides (https://www.rt.com/news/326515-pentagon-strike-iraqi-soldiers/)
"The incident fuels suspicions in Iraq that the US-led coalition may be helping IS rather than fighting against it, a notion that is widespread in the country. Shiite militias, which are fighting against IS forces in Iraq, had suffered from American interventions that helped the terrorists in the past, militia commander Hakim al-Zamili told RT. Al-Zamili also heads the Iraqi parliament’s defense and security committee.
“We don't believe it was a technical mistake. We constantly see that the United States are trying to provide air cover to Islamic State. They are preventing us from making an offensive,” he said.
“I think everyone is now convinced that the United States is not sincere in its fight against Islamic State. Maybe they have another agenda. The Pentagon, the CIA and other agencies in the US are trying to make a [rift] between Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq,” he added. “They are trying to tear [apart] Iraq with the help of their allies like Turkey and the Gulf states.”"... lulz
oldrider
20th December 2015, 14:00
It's staggering just how conditioned and programmed (as a people) we are to think in a certain way! (there really are a lot of bullshitters in the highest places!)
Even more amazing is the way we react when that conditioning/programming etc is challenged!
Much like an alcoholic defending their bottle - the emotion and anger applied or expressed is unlimited passionate and cunning!
Simply stop and think about things for a while and ask yourself if what you really think you believe is true or false - prepare to be surprised!
So oil is fossil fuel - you learned that at kindergarten school and university right? - Yeah right! - just one example?) http://www.rense.com/general67/oils.htm
Woodman
20th December 2015, 14:49
But I am happy in the matrix.....
Akzle
20th December 2015, 15:05
It's staggering just how conditioned and programmed (as a people) we are to think in a certain way! (there really are a lot of bullshitters in the highest places!)
Even more amazing is the way we react when that conditioning/programming etc is challenged!
Much like an alcoholic defending their bottle - the emotion and anger applied or expressed is unlimited passionate and cunning!
Simply stop and think about things for a while and ask yourself if what you really think you believe is true or false - prepare to be surprised!
So oil is fossil fuel - you learned that at kindergarten school and university right? - Yeah right! - just one example?) http://www.rense.com/general67/oils.htm
the planets made out of oil.
But, y'know. Scarcity creates 'value'.
= profit.
Damn jews.
mashman
21st December 2015, 07:26
But I am happy in the matrix.....
As you shall be not in the matrix ;)
Katman
23rd December 2015, 07:26
Make an orderly line citizens.
http://www.truthandaction.org/un-plans-implant-everyone-biometric-id/2/
bogan
23rd December 2015, 07:32
Make an orderly line citizens.
http://www.truthandaction.org/un-plans-implant-everyone-biometric-id/2/
Did you fact check that, even a little bit?
And I think one of the reasons of putting a chip in would be to keep lines shorter :msn-wink:
I'll get one once the tech has stabilised, and it can do paywave, door locks, vehicle start, etc.
Katman
23rd December 2015, 07:35
I'll get one once the tech has stabilised, and it can do paywave, door locks, vehicle start, etc.
Yeah, you strike me as that sort.
Akzle
23rd December 2015, 07:43
Did you fact check that, even a little bit?
And I think one of the reasons of putting a chip in would be to keep lines shorter :msn-wink:
I'll get one once the tech has stabilised, and it can do paywave, door locks, vehicle start, etc.
and when you exceed the posted speed limit, their sensor can tag you and deduct it straight from your realme account.
And if you become politically undesirable they can flip the switch...
bogan
23rd December 2015, 13:59
and when you exceed the posted speed limit, their sensor can tag you and deduct it straight from your realme account.
And if you become politically undesirable they can flip the switch...
It will do neither of those things.
And there is already a thing called a speed camera, and a number plate.
But if you're really worried, there is a thing called a scalpel.
Akzle
23rd December 2015, 15:00
It will do neither of those things.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
to whom according?
bogan
23rd December 2015, 15:10
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
to whom according?
One with an understanding or RFID technologies.
Scuba_Steve
23rd December 2015, 20:11
Did you fact check that, even a little bit?
And I think one of the reasons of putting a chip in would be to keep lines shorter :msn-wink:
I'll get one once the tech has stabilised, and it can do paywave, door locks, vehicle start, etc.
If it can do all that I think it's an awesome thing for stupid worlders to have... by that stage I'll probably be a full "outlaw" so it'll give me access to people like Bogans money, house, cars/bikes; fuck it'll be better than working
Akzle
23rd December 2015, 21:15
One with an understanding or RFID technologies.
while i get that precludes remote detonation (though not inductive superheating), the roadside scanning is fully viable. Even at >100km/h and inside an ungrounded metal cage
bogan
23rd December 2015, 21:19
If it can do all that I think it's an awesome thing for stupid worlders to have... by that stage I'll probably be a full "outlaw" so it'll give me access to people like Bogans money, house, cars/bikes; fuck it'll be better than working
Go on, just how will you crack the coding in one of these things?
while i get that precludes remote detonation (though not inductive superheating), the roadside scanning is fully viable. Even at >100km/h and inside an ungrounded metal cage
No, it just isn't.
Akzle
23rd December 2015, 21:27
Go on, just how will you crack the coding in one of these things?
No, it just isn't.
nyahahahahaha. Lulz. Your dum.
bogan
23rd December 2015, 21:38
nyahahahahaha. Lulz. Your dum.
If you can explain how a fixed size, passively powered antenna circuit is going to push its signal roughly a hundred thousand times stronger than it can today, on roughly a thousandth of the power, then I'm all ears...
In the mean time, I think taking ANPR is a somewhat more attractive option :laugh:
Akzle
23rd December 2015, 21:48
If you can explain how a fixed size, passively powered antenna circuit is going to push its signal roughly a hundred thousand times stronger than it can today, on roughly a thousandth of the power, then I'm all ears...
In the mean time, I think taking ANPR is a somewhat more attractive option :laugh:
not much clued up on rf, are ya?
The answer is inductively. (duh)
hell, i could probably pull voltage out of the air on 13.5meg right meow. that shits longer wave than AM CB and THAT shit is good for a few fucken kms, innit.
The rfid chip antenna doesn't "push it's signal". You need to google this shit at least, before posting.
Scuba_Steve
23rd December 2015, 21:50
Go on, just how will you crack the coding in one of these things?
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: for starters paywave's only security is someone not bothering to obtain the data
and if the rest of the abilities are via RFID they're no secure than the Paywave... but hey I'm all for you stupid worlders having them; don't worry I'm sure they'll implement some sort of security theater "protection" so you can feel safe
bogan
23rd December 2015, 22:15
not much clued up on rf, are ya?
The answer is inductively. (duh)
hell, i could probably pull voltage out of the air on 13.5meg right meow. that shits longer wave than AM CB and THAT shit is good for a few fucken kms, innit.
The rfid chip antenna doesn't "push it's signal". You need to google this shit at least, before posting.
Of course RFID pushes it's signal out, pretty fucking useless if it's only in receive mode. The question is still "how a fixed size, passively powered antenna circuit is going to push its signal roughly a hundred thousand times stronger than it can today, on roughly a thousandth of the power" were it simple RF shit they'd already be good for that sort of range. Then again, reality is not a strong point with stupid worlders...
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: for starters paywave's only security is someone not bothering to obtain the data
and if the rest of the abilities are via RFID they're no secure than the Paywave... but hey I'm all for you stupid worlders having them; don't worry I'm sure they'll implement some sort of security theater "protection" so you can feel safe
Paywave uses cryptography on the card, you can't just obtain that data. Fucks sake, even rolling codes have been around decades; get with the times mate.
Scuba_Steve
23rd December 2015, 22:23
Paywave uses cryptography on the card, you can't just obtain that data. Fucks sake, even rolling codes have been around decades; get with the times mate.
it takes a laptop, 50$ of components & someone with paywave to get their CC details; then you just need a card writer & ta da you have access to all their moneys not just the 80$ paywave limit. Even John Key could do it... Great security there :rolleyes: but don't worry it has "cryptography on the card" that makes it totally safe, about as safe as WEP security on WiFi
bogan
23rd December 2015, 22:33
it takes a laptop, 50$ of components & someone with paywave to get their CC details; then you just need a card writer & ta da you have access to all their moneys not just the 80$ paywave limit. Even John Key could do it... Great security there :rolleyes: but don't worry it has "cryptography on the card" that makes it totally safe, about as safe as WEP security on WiFi
Which isn't a problem with the technology, it's a problem with legacy compatibility. You're not obtaining the paywave data, you're obtaining the credit card data which just happens (though this may be phased out soon, to be written to, and accessibly through the paywave RFID chip.
Akzle
24th December 2015, 04:53
it takes a laptop, 50$ of components & someone with paywave to get their CC details; then you just need a card writer & ta da you have access to all their moneys not just the 80$ paywave limit. Even John Key could do it... Great security there :rolleyes: but don't worry it has "cryptography on the card" that makes it totally safe, about as safe as WEP security on WiFi
actually, lens is pretty secure.
The cards can be read by blackberrys and probably other cellphoneries with nfc though, so...
Akzle
24th December 2015, 05:12
Of course RFID pushes it's signal out, pretty fucking useless if it's only in receive mode.
no, it doesn't. Or rather, it doesn't have to.
And it's probably >80/20 passive/active chips.
Hint, 13.5 is an AM frequency.
Google "i'm fucking retarded, please help!" then "how does amplitude modulation work"
The question is still "how a fixed size, passively powered antenna circuit is going to push its signal roughly a hundred thousand times stronger than it can today, on roughly a thousandth of the power" were it simple RF shit they'd already be good for that sort of range. Then again, reality is not a strong point with stupid worlders...
and the answer is still the same. Dumbass.
i dont know if induction is to be considered "passively powered", so i'm going to assume it's just your nignorance.
The nfc standard /iso limits/ protocol / whatever the fuck limits the wattage (presumably) of "readers" which limits them to 20cm or so.
Howe'er, the actual frequency used is good for fucking miles.
Bit like bluetooth, the PROTOCOL/ standards limits it to 33feet, but it's in the same 2.4g spectrum as wifi, whos PROTOCOL/ standards limit it to 100.
Get it yet?
Make ya a deal, you can pick an rfid chip to have implanted in your face, let me know when, then i'll set up camp with my fucking sky dish beside the road, and you try speeding past.
And you really rhink that civilians get to use the forefront of developed technology?
bogan
24th December 2015, 07:52
no, it doesn't. Or rather, it doesn't have to.
And it's probably >80/20 passive/active chips.
Hint, 13.5 is an AM frequency.
Google "i'm fucking retarded, please help!" then "how does amplitude modulation work"
and the answer is still the same. Dumbass.
i dont know if induction is to be considered "passively powered", so i'm going to assume it's just your nignorance.
The nfc standard /iso limits/ protocol / whatever the fuck limits the wattage (presumably) of "readers" which limits them to 20cm or so.
Howe'er, the actual frequency used is good for fucking miles.
Bit like bluetooth, the PROTOCOL/ standards limits it to 33feet, but it's in the same 2.4g spectrum as wifi, whos PROTOCOL/ standards limit it to 100.
Get it yet?
Make ya a deal, you can pick an rfid chip to have implanted in your face, let me know when, then i'll set up camp with my fucking sky dish beside the road, and you try speeding past.
And you really rhink that civilians get to use the forefront of developed technology?
So, you understand that the transmission side needs to get bigger to get more range, why can't you understand that the other transmission side must get bigger too?
And yeh, if if your flawed theory was correct, it would have to be one huge fucking sky-dish.
In any case, I've got two on my finger right now, (and boards etc to develop secure technologies with them), three in my wallet, ranging across 3 different frequencies, let me know when you get off your lazy arse and set up some sort of sky dish and I'll pop around to see if you can read any of them. You'll need to send a pic first, I'm not going up there to see 2 tin cans, some string and 37 skittish goats.
Akzle
24th December 2015, 08:56
So, you understand that the transmission side needs to get bigger to get more range, why can't you understand that the other transmission side must get bigger too?
incorrect.
Let me know when you get off your lazy arse and set up some sort of sky dish and I'll pop around to see if you can read any of them. You'll need to send a pic first, I'm not going up there to see 2 tin cans, some string and 37 skittish goats.
cantenna bru. Cantenna.
bogan
24th December 2015, 15:41
incorrect.
cantenna bru. Cantenna.
Care to elaborate? I mean by now you should have at least mentioned the term 'inductive coupling'
Brian d marge
25th December 2015, 01:56
Happy Saturnius week ya all:devil2::drinkup::drinkup:
oldrider
25th December 2015, 05:12
Happy Saturnius week ya all:devil2::drinkup::drinkup:
Likewise and happy :ride: to everyone out there doing it and take care during the silly season on the roads! - North :cold: South :sunny: Should be a lot of fun times! :ride:
mashman
26th December 2015, 12:29
Burn your bills: Denmark wants to go cashless by 2016 (http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/denmark-going-cashless-emoney/)... bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa@killing off the black market.
Brian d marge
26th December 2015, 23:16
Burn your bills: Denmark wants to go cashless by 2016 (http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/denmark-going-cashless-emoney/)... bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa@killing off the black market.
fk me the boys are workin quick , they must be a hurtin
oldrider
27th December 2015, 07:53
Food for thought? - you can easily spot certain conditioned KBr's in the mix right on cue with the plan? :rolleyes:
<iframe width="370" height="238" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Xbp6umQT58A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
mashman
27th December 2015, 08:56
fk me the boys are workin quick , they must be a hurtin
Desperate times etc... :shifty:
mashman
27th December 2015, 09:02
Close enough I reckon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct04WHeX67k
and
German code-breakers expose huge credit card flaw, companies continue keeping silent (https://www.rt.com/news/327161-credit-card-protocal-vulnerability/) What can't eventually be hacked? Smoke and mirrors.
oldrider
27th December 2015, 09:56
Close enough I reckon.
[video=youtube;Ct04WHeX67k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct04WHeX
and
[B][U]German code-breakers expose huge credit card flaw, companies continue keeping silent (hps://www.rt.com/news/327161-credit-card-protocal-vulnerability/) What can't eventually be hacked? Smoke and mirrors.
Give me control of the finances of the world I care not who makes the law!
Financial control of the world (The plan) New World Order (The journey) Planet Khazaria (The destination) Are we there yet? - nearly! - Not long now! :devil2:
yokel
27th December 2015, 10:05
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ag2F7rNq9vI/TpztdO_YNkI/AAAAAAAAAPo/wCi3TdrfRVI/s1600/henry+ford.jpg
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/dJxLIzNjJBw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Woodman
27th December 2015, 11:31
But I pay cash for everything.....
husaberg
27th December 2015, 11:46
More twaddle from an idiot with zero understanding of history
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ag2F7rNq9vI/TpztdO_YNkI/AAAAAAAAAPo/wCi3TdrfRVI/s1600/henry+ford.jpg
http://www.richgibson.com/History101/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Ford-Newspaper-300x203.png
Although both publications are my property, it goes without saying that in the multitude of my activities it has been impossible for me to devote personal attention to their management or to keep informed as to their contents. It has therefore inevitably followed that the conduct and policies of these publications had to be delegated to men whom I placed in charge of them and upon whom I relied implicitly...
I am deeply mortified that this journal, which is intended to be constructive and not destructive, has been made the medium for resurrecting exploded fictions, for giving currency to the so-called Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion, which have been demonstrated, as I learn, to be gross forgeries, and for contending that the Jews have been engaged in a conspiracy to control the capital and the industries of the world, besides laying at their door many offenses against decency, public order and good morals.
Had I appreciated even the general nature, to say nothing of the details ,of these utterances, I would have forbidden their circulation without a moment's hesitation, because I am fully aware of the virtues of the Jewish people as a whole, of what they and their ancestors have done for civilization and for mankind and toward the development of commerce and industry, of their sobriety and diligence, their benevolence and their unselfish interest in the public welfare...
I frankly confess that I have been greatly shocked as a result of my study and examination of the files of The Dearborn Independent and of the pamphlets entitled "The International Jew." I deem it to be my duty as an honorable man to make amends for the wrong done to the Jews as fellow-men and brothers, by asking their forgiveness for the harm that I have unintentionally committed, by retracting so far as lies within my power the offensive charges laid at their door by these publications, and by giving them the unqualified assurance that henceforth they may look to me for friendship and good will...
Finally, let me add that this statement is made on my own initiative and wholly in the interest of right and justice and in accordance with what I regard as my solemn duty as a man and as a citizen.
Henry Ford
Then again Henry Ford is the only American mentioned in Mein Kamph and he was also decorated by Hilters Goverment
http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/712284090d61.jpg
Henry Ford's reward from Hitler finally came in July 1938, when on his seventy-fifth birthday he was awarded the Grand Cross of the Supreme Order of the German Eagle. Ford was the first American and the fourth person in the world to receive this medal, which was the highest decoration that could be given to any non-German citizen. Benito Mussolini, another of Hitler's financiers, had been decorated with the same honor earlier that year.]
http://www.midsouthsentinel.com/uploads/2/9/5/4/29542111/135954189.jpg?440
yokel
27th December 2015, 14:02
Then again Henry Ford is the only American mentioned in Mein Kamph and he was also decorated by Hilters Goverment
Henry Ford's reward from Hitler finally came in July 1938, when on his seventy-fifth birthday he was awarded the Grand Cross of the Supreme Order of the German Eagle. Ford was the first American and the fourth person in the world to receive this medal, which was the highest decoration that could be given to any non-German citizen. Benito Mussolini, another of Hitler's financiers, had been decorated with the same honor earlier that year.]
This is what you get from a muppet that can't comprehend shit and thinks Niels Harrit is a "crackpot" because some reporter got away with calling him that.
News flash dummy, Niels Harrit is not a "crackpot"
Tell me about the history regarding the alleged extermination of 6,000,000 jews??
Hitler was a Zionist puppet.
That's right, you don't have a fucking clue,
You are truly one stupid cunt.
oldrider
27th December 2015, 15:20
Hitler was a Zionist puppet.
The Zionists "thought" that he was their puppet but he kicked the ladder out from under them and carried on without them!
Hitler employed all the Zionists own secret monetary methodologies for the benefit of German governance and exposed their shady practices for what they were!
Hitler proved that without the Zionist monetary constraints any nation could easily lead the world economically technically militarily and politically as never before!
This really pissed the Zionists off and they pulled out all stops to put him in his place and punish anyone who may develop aspirations to imitate him!
The Zionists have carried on a policy to ridicule and denounce him so much that no one else would/could ever pick up where Hitler left off as he almost defeated them!
Hitler was exposing and kicking shit out of the Zionist (monetary dominated) rice bowl and Germany (read whole world?) was made to pay dearly for that indiscretion!
Try tuning in to Sky television etc and finding there is not a slot of programming that doesn't defame or focus on Hitler and/or the the Nazi period of German history!
It never bloody well stops! - Lest we forget the bad bits and start to focus on the good bits of Hitler's successful period in power!
The German people did not follow Hitler because he was a numskull - they followed him because he was a very successful and persuasive leader!
Had Hitler won WW2 - how do you think the world would compare to the way it is today? - We are not allowed to even think about that - let alone mention it! :oi-grr:
Tell a lie often enough in every form of media, theatre and educational process to the exclusion of all forms of alternative opinion - it will become the accepted truth!
How do you know that what you think you know about history is actually what really happened if you don't challenge it or ask why? - Think about that for a little while!
Have you been fooled? :scratch: - Or are you totally convinced that you have always been told the historic truth? :niceone:
husaberg
27th December 2015, 15:22
This is what you get from a muppet that can't comprehend shit and thinks Niels Harrit is a "crackpot" because some reporter got away with calling him that.
News flash dummy, Niels Harrit is not a "crackpot"
Tell me about the history regarding the alleged extermination of 6,000,000 jews??
Hitler was a Zionist puppet.
That's right, you don't have a fucking clue,
You are truly one stupid cunt.
Niels Harrit is a crackpot it was proven in court.
epic your so called experts own star expert scientific witness that he called, Professor Hedegaard (who is a real physic professor rather than a crackpot assistant chemistry professor like Niels Harrit is)
When asked Hedegaard what he thought of calls Niels Harrit and his theories calls them Nuts........
Villemoes' lawyer asked Hedegaard if he could support statements he had made about Harrit quoted in an article used in City Court — statements substantiating that Dr. Harrit was a "crackpot". Hedegaard replied that he still agreed with his statements in the article, in which he had called Harrit's theories "nuts." That became the final answer from the last witness of the day.
Under Danish libel law the plaintiff had to prove that Niels Harrit was a crackpot, he did in both libel cases.
Remember that crackpot statement put the crackpot in the same class of crackpots as holocaust deniers :clap:
The Zionists "thought" that he was their puppet but he kicked the ladder out from under them and carried on without them!
Hitler employed all the Zionists own secret monetary methodologies for the benefit of German governance and exposed their shady practices for what they were!
Hitler proved that without the Zionist monetary constraints any nation could easily lead the world economically technically militarily and politically as never before!
This really pissed the Zionists off and they pulled out all stops to put him in his place and punish anyone who may develop aspirations to imitate him!
The Zionists have carried on a policy to ridicule and denounce him so much that no one else would/could ever pick up where Hitler left off as he almost defeated them!
Hitler was exposing and kicking shit out of the Zionist (monetary dominated) rice bowl and Germany (read whole world?) was made to pay dearly for that indiscretion!
Try tuning in to Sky television etc and finding there is not a slot of programming that doesn't defame or focus on Hitler and/or the the Nazi period of German history!
It never bloody well stops! - Lest we forget the bad bits and start to focus on the good bits of Hitler's successful period in power!
The German people did not follow Hitler because he was a numskull - they followed him because he was a very successful and persuasive leader!
Had Hitler won WW2 - how do you think the world would compare to the way it is today? - We are not allowed to even think about that - let alone mention it! :oi-grr:
Tell a lie often enough in every form of media, theatre and educational process to the exclusion of all forms of alternative opinion - it will become the accepted truth!
How do you know that what you think you know about history is actually what really happened if you don't challenge it or ask why? - Think about that for a little while!
Have you been fooled? :scratch: - Or are you totally convinced that you have always been told the historic truth? :niceone:
Pretty sure everyone on KB knows by now you think Hitler was just misunderstood and that your own views on race relations strongly mirror his.............
Voltaire
27th December 2015, 15:32
Don't forget the VW, AH did plan on cheap Peoples Car, only got as far as collecting money though.... and a few Autobahns.
From memory he sent his mate Porsche to the US to check out modern car production, and was I think offered a job by Stalin at one point.
One of his observations of the car manufacturing was how easily it could be converted to war production and just how big the US production was. Not to worry they thought as the
Americans can only make refrigerators....
OMG....I just saw Hitcher is looking....quick edit...
Woodman
27th December 2015, 15:34
News flash dummy, Niels Harrit is not a "crackpot"
.
Just back up the truck a bit and make sure its not just because that's what you (Yokel) want to think?
Oscar
27th December 2015, 15:56
The Zionists "thought" that he was their puppet but he kicked the ladder out from under them and carried on without them!
Hitler employed all the Zionists own secret monetary methodologies for the benefit of German governance and exposed their shady practices for what they were!
Hitler proved that without the Zionist monetary constraints any nation could easily lead the world economically technically militarily and politically as never before!
This really pissed the Zionists off and they pulled out all stops to put him in his place and punish anyone who may develop aspirations to imitate him!
The Zionists have carried on a policy to ridicule and denounce him so much that no one else would/could ever pick up where Hitler left off as he almost defeated them!
Hitler was exposing and kicking shit out of the Zionist (monetary dominated) rice bowl and Germany (read whole world?) was made to pay dearly for that indiscretion!
Try tuning in to Sky television etc and finding there is not a slot of programming that doesn't defame or focus on Hitler and/or the the Nazi period of German history!
It never bloody well stops! - Lest we forget the bad bits and start to focus on the good bits of Hitler's successful period in power!
The German people did not follow Hitler because he was a numskull - they followed him because he was a very successful and persuasive leader!
Had Hitler won WW2 - how do you think the world would compare to the way it is today? - We are not allowed to even think about that - let alone mention it! :oi-grr:
Tell a lie often enough in every form of media, theatre and educational process to the exclusion of all forms of alternative opinion - it will become the accepted truth!
How do you know that what you think you know about history is actually what really happened if you don't challenge it or ask why? - Think about that for a little while!
Have you been fooled? :scratch: - Or are you totally convinced that you have always been told the historic truth? :niceone:
And as usual it would be futile to ask for a ounce of proof?
Some documentary evidence that would back up your anti-Semitic ravings?
You are a bigoted old fool.
Voltaire
27th December 2015, 16:31
I've found the truth at last :rolleyes:
http://i2.wp.com/memecollection.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/500-instances-of-zionist-conspiracy.jpg?w=900
Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 01:49
Food for thought? - you can easily spot certain conditioned KBr's in the mix right on cue with the plan? :rolleyes:
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Stefan is always good for a laugh
While he is a bit rightist for me . .he makes some good points
As for seeing the farm is to leave
Im too bloody knackered
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Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 01:51
But I pay cash for everything.....
Good man good man
But ya bettrr have a plan b
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Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 02:11
And as usual it would be futile to ask for a ounce of proof?
Some documentary evidence that would back up your anti-Semitic ravings?
You are a bigoted old fool.
Be a waste of time presenting anything on your doorstep you wouldnt know what to do with it
Seems to that quite a few actually liked the fella
The voter turnout at one of his gigs looks like a national parties wet dream
If ya hurry your favorite infomercial will be on soon
Ps Hjalmar schacht . . .then come back to the table when ya have ad a wee think
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yokel
28th December 2015, 08:20
Niels Harrit is a crackpot it was proven in court.
epic your so called experts own star expert scientific witness that he called, Professor Hedegaard (who is a real physic professor rather than a crackpot assistant chemistry professor like Niels Harrit is)
When asked Hedegaard what he thought of calls Niels Harrit and his theories calls them Nuts........
Under Danish libel law the plaintiff had to prove that Niels Harrit was a crackpot, he did in both libel cases.
Remember that crackpot statement put the crackpot in the same class of crackpots as holocaust deniers :clap:
Pretty sure everyone on KB knows by now you think Hitler was just misunderstood and that your own views on race relations strongly mirror his.............
So the professor called him "nuts" thats not a crackpot.
The fact is it was NOT proven in court that he was a "crackpot", you can not prove that some is a derogatory comment.
The reporter did not and can not prove that Niels Harrit is a "crackpot"
Also from what I've seen Holocaust "deniers" are not "crackpots", or can you show me a gas chamberer that is capable of gassing thousands of people in one gassing?
The people that believe in the Holocaust after it has been being clearly pointed out that it's just not physically possible just like 9/11, they are the "crackpots"
so you sir, is a pot with a crack in it.
http://image.slidesharecdn.com/thecrackedpot-140506232204-phpapp02/95/the-cracked-pot-very-inspirational-story-3-638.jpg?cb=1399418872
Oscar
28th December 2015, 09:17
Be a waste of time presenting anything on your doorstep you wouldnt know what to do with it
Seems to that quite a few actually liked the fella
The voter turnout at one of his gigs looks like a national parties wet dream
If ya hurry your favorite infomercial will be on soon
Ps Hjalmar schacht . . .then come back to the table when ya have ad a wee think
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Ah, the assistant village idiot is back with the same old same old.
Or maybe you're some sort of Eskimo with a hundred ways to say "I got nuthin'".
I could post something but you wouldn't know what to do with it?
Really?
What are you?
Eight years old?
oldrider
28th December 2015, 09:43
the same class of crackpots as holocaust deniers :clap:
All this raving about holocaust deniers coming from the greatest holocaust denier himself - what about the holocaust of Palestine?
It's been raging for 67 years - compared to the 10 year Nazi holocaust of the Jews! - Collectively that's an awful lot of unnecessary inflicted misery!
Holocaust for Holocaust - who has more blood on their hands Nazi Germany or Nazi Israel? - (Neither should ever have had any and should never have occurred!)
Holocaust: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/the-word-holocaust-history-and-meaning_n_1229043.html
Oscar
28th December 2015, 10:35
All this raving about holocaust deniers coming from the greatest holocaust denier himself - what about the holocaust of Palestine?
It's been raging for 67 years - compared to the 10 year Nazi holocaust of the Jews! - Collectively that's an awful lot of unnecessary inflicted misery!
Holocaust for Holocaust - who has more blood on their hands Nazi Germany or Nazi Israel? - (Neither should ever have had any and should never have occurred!)
Holocaust: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/the-word-holocaust-history-and-meaning_n_1229043.html
Revisionist, twisted comparison.
Both events are tragedies.
You should be ashamed.
husaberg
28th December 2015, 10:49
So the professor called him "nuts" thats not a crackpot..
Incorrect the Real Professor (which Harrit had called as an expert) called both him and his theories Nuts are you unable to read?
Villemoes' lawyer asked Hedegaard if he could support statements he had made about Harrit quoted in an article used in City Court — statements substantiating that Dr. Harrit was a "crackpot". Hedegaard replied that he still agreed with his statements in the article, in which he had called Harrit's theories "nuts." That became the final answer from the last witness of the day.
The fact is it was NOT proven in court that he was a "crackpot", you can not prove that some is a derogatory comment. .
It was proven in Court Twice as under Danish libel laws the defendant had to prove Harrit was a crackpot to defend himself against the libel suit harrit had initated
Under Danish libel law the plaintiff had to prove that Niels Harrit was a crackpot, he did in both libel cases.Remember that crackpot statement put the crackpot in the same class of crackpots as holocaust deniers. Ie you
The reporter did not and can not prove that Niels Harrit is a "crackpot" .
As above. He did, He has twice proven so in Court Twice as under Danish libel laws, the defendant he had to prove Harrit was a crackpot to defend himself against the libel suit Harrit had initiated.
Also from what I've seen Holocaust "deniers" are not "crackpots", or can you show me a gas chamberer that is capable of gassing thousands of people in one gassing?.
You are a deluded morron
The people that believe in the Holocaust after it has been being clearly pointed out that it's just not physically possible just like 9/11, they are the "crackpots" .
so you sir, is a pot with a crack in it.
Thus as above you are a crackpot idiot as clearly defined by the Danish courts.
husaberg
28th December 2015, 10:54
All this raving about holocaust deniers coming from the greatest holocaust denier himself - what about the holocaust of Palestine?
It's been raging for 67 years - compared to the 10 year Nazi holocaust of the Jews! - Collectively that's an awful lot of unnecessary inflicted misery!
Holocaust for Holocaust - who has more blood on their hands Nazi Germany or Nazi Israel? - (Neither should ever have had any and should never have occurred!)
Holocaust: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/the-word-holocaust-history-and-meaning_n_1229043.html
It would be nice for you to provide any evidence to substantiate up these statements above.
Especially the one that accuses me of being the greatest holocaust denier.
I await this evidence with baited breath.
Especially in light of the facts that the Palestinian populations have greatly increased rather than decreased?
Riad al-Zeitouniya, the head of the Civil Status and Passport Department in the Ministry of Interior of the Gaza government, speaking to Al-Monitor.
According to Zeitouniya, the total number of births in Gaza in 2013 exceeded 56,000, while the first three months of 2014 saw more than 13,000. He added, “The increase of the population in the Gaza Strip is excessive; it is very large.
Between 2000 and 2013, the number of Gazans increased by more than 687,000 people.”
According to a 2008 article in The Guardian, using PCBS census figures, the Palestinian territories have one of the fastest growing populations in the world, with numbers surging 30% in the past decade (2008). There were 3.76 million Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, up from 2.89 million 10 years earlier
http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/files/1-israeli-palestinian-images/west-bank-and-gaza-strip-arab-population-1948-to-2005.gif
Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 12:21
Ah, the assistant village idiot is back with the same old same old.
Or maybe you're some sort of Eskimo with a hundred ways to say "I got nuthin'".
I could post something but you wouldn't know what to do with it?
Really?
What are you?
Eight years old?
This eight yr old gave u a name
Stop yer gum flapping and spend some time on google
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yokel
28th December 2015, 12:30
It would be nice for you to provide any evidence to substantiate up these statements above.
Especially the one that accuses me of being the greatest holocaust denier.
I await this evidence with baited breath.
Especially in light of the facts that the Palestinian populations have greatly increased rather than decreased?
Hey numbskull, where's the population graph that shows the missing 6,000,000 jews?
yokel
28th December 2015, 12:37
Incorrect the Real Professor (which Harrit had called as an expert) called both him and his theories Nuts are you unable to read?
Villemoes' lawyer asked Hedegaard if he could support statements he had made about Harrit quoted in an article used in City Court — statements substantiating that Dr. Harrit was a "crackpot". Hedegaard replied that he still agreed with his statements in the article, in which he had called Harrit's theories "nuts." That became the final answer from the last witness of the day.
It was proven in Court Twice as under Danish libel laws the defendant had to prove Harrit was a crackpot to defend himself against the libel suit harrit had initated
Under Danish libel law the plaintiff had to prove that Niels Harrit was a crackpot, he did in both libel cases.Remember that crackpot statement put the crackpot in the same class of crackpots as holocaust deniers. Ie you
As above. He did, He has twice proven so in Court Twice as under Danish libel laws, the defendant he had to prove Harrit was a crackpot to defend himself against the libel suit Harrit had initiated.
You are a deluded morron
Thus as above you are a crackpot idiot as clearly defined by the Danish courts.
I know you really really really want to believe that the court proved Niels Harrit was a "crackpot"
but the reality says other wise.
you just keep doing what ever it takes to keep your delusions alive.
The reason you can't show me a real gas chamber capable of gassing thousands of people is because they only exist in your imagination.
husaberg
28th December 2015, 12:43
I know you really really really want to believe that the court proved Niels Harrit was a "crackpot"
but the reality says other wise.
you just keep doing what ever it takes to keep your delusions alive.
The reason you can't show me a real gas chamber capable of gassing thousands of people is because they only exist in your imagination
.
Incorrect the reality of the situation is your idiot was proven to be a crackpot not once but twice on two separate occasions in a court of law.
Even his expert witness described his theory as being "NUTS."
Villemoes' lawyer asked Hedegaard if he could support statements he had made about Harrit quoted in an article used in City Court — statements substantiating that Dr. Harrit was a "crackpot". Hedegaard replied that he still agreed with his statements in the article, in which he had called Harrit's theories "nuts." That became the final answer from the last witness of the day.
I note you again attempt to change the subject.
You believe there was no Nazi gas chambers no amount of evidence will ever be able to prove it to you. That's because you are a idiot retard.
Tell everyone on here what you got in School Cert Scott.......:laugh:
yokel
28th December 2015, 12:57
Incorrect the reality of the situation is your idiot was proven to be a crackpot not once but twice on two separate occasions in a court of law.
Even his expert witness described his theory as being "NUTS."
I note you again attempt to change the subject.
You believe there was no Nazi gas chambers no amount of evidence will ever be able to prove it to you. That's because you are a idiot retard.
Tell everyone on here what you got in School Cert Scott.......:laugh:
If you can't show me a Nazi gas chamber capable of gassing thousands of people in one gassing then you are the crackpot.
As for School cert, I got B's in science and metal work two C's in some other shit and a D the english.
I didn't really try that hard at school, left after fifth from.
husaberg
28th December 2015, 13:04
If you can't show me a Nazi gas chamber capable of gassing thousands of people in one gassing then you are the crackpot.
As for School cert, I got B's in science and metal work two C's in some other shit and a D the english.
I didn't really try that hard at school, left after fifth from.
Anyone that denies millions of people died at the hands of the Nazis by being gassed is a crackpot.
Especially considering all of the experts you offered up previously as being proof have admitted it obviously occurred.
As for David Irving? well he seems to be quite a logical reasonable fellow.
the fact that historians can not question or have a different view of the Holocaust means its most likely bullshit,
that is why it's a logical fallacy to say all historians agree with the Holocaust, that's why it's true.
liars don't like being questioned.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/D2ZzrYRRpHU
I note you have also previously admitted that there was gas chamber used on Jews did you forget that.:done:
and that 4 tons of zyklon b? well only 5% was used for gassing jews
anything to do with documentation I don't really trust as being genuine, documents help support the physical evidence but on its own it's useless.
The British revisionist historian and Nazi apologist David Irving was today sentenced to three years in prison after he admitted denying the Holocaust.
Irving had pleaded guilty to denying the Holocaust in two speeches on a visit to Austria in 1989, but said at the trial that he had later changed his views. The speeches included a call for an end to the "gas chambers fairy tale", and claims that Adolf Hitler had helped Europe's Jews and that the Holocaust was a myth. Irving told the court today he had revised his opinion after seeing the personal files of Adolf Eichmann. Speaking in German, he told the court he now accepted that the Nazis had killed millions of Jews. At one stage, while giving evidence, he expressed sorrow for "all the innocent people" who died during the war. "I made a mistake when I said there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz," he said
As is you key conspiracy expert, even the real professor he tried to get to back up his theories concluded and testified that his theories are Nuts.
Villemoes' lawyer asked Hedegaard if he could support statements he had made about Harrit quoted in an article used in City Court — statements substantiating that Dr. Harrit was a "crackpot". Hedegaard replied that he still agreed with his statements in the article, in which he had called Harrit's theories "nuts." That became the final answer from the last witness of the day.
Do you deny this was what occurred?
As for your school results they had nothing to do with your lack of intelligence though did they?:laugh:
Maybe it was a conspiracy...........
Oscar
28th December 2015, 13:10
This eight yr old gave u a name
Stop yer gum flapping and spend some time on google
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Name calling is about all you're good at.
What should I google?
Delusional theories by lazy wankers who post links but aren't even bright enough to back up their own nonsense?
You are a sad child.
Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 13:11
If you can't show me a Nazi gas chamber capable of gassing thousands of people in one gassing then you are the crackpot.
As for School cert, I got B's in science and metal work two C's in some other shit and a D the english.
I didn't really try that hard at school, left after fifth from.
Ill second that im afraid
Work camps yes
Chambers capable of killing . . . .lice yes
attrocites from all involved . .yes
Sorry but there are just too many things that dont add up
For example. My uncle took between 15 an 20 min to be creamated using the latest high tech equipment
Think about it
At the very least the numbers are inflated
Why would you inflate those numbers . . . Could it be that the money to fund those camps came from people who would rather renain unknown
I smell bullshyt . . And of a type i wouldnt use in my garden
Ps
Ill indulge only for as long as it takes tweedledee to figure out google
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Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 13:36
Name calling is about all you're good at.
What should I google?
Delusional theories by lazy wankers who post links but aren't even bright enough to back up their own nonsense?
You are a sad child.
Read your own posts
I knew you wouldnt . . . sorry couldnt deal with any informstion . .
Not even a simple name could you look up
And you have the gaul to call others stupid
Holy cow
The thing that worries me is that you have been free and running loose in society since arriving here
Voting . . Participating in society and god forbid breeding
One can only speculate on the trail of destruction you have wreaked
Now be a good fellow . Type in the name i gave you and you may find the answers to why the german people thought so much of mr hitler
8 yr olds are particularly adept st computers if you need help
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bogan
28th December 2015, 13:49
Read your own posts
I knew you wouldnt . . . sorry couldnt deal with any informstion . .
Not even a simple name could you look up
And you have the gaul to call others stupid
Holy cow
The thing that worries me is that you have been free and running loose in society since arriving here
Voting . . Participating in society and god forbid breeding
One can only speculate on the trail of destruction you have wreaked
Now be a good fellow . Type in the name i gave you and you may find the answers to why the german people thought so much of mr hitler
8 yr olds are particularly adept st computers if you need help
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frank winterbottom
husaberg
28th December 2015, 13:49
Ill second that im afraid
Work camps yes
Chambers capable of killing . . . .lice yes
attrocites from all involved . .yes
Sorry but there are just too many things that dont add up
For example. My uncle took between 15 an 20 min to be creamated using the latest high tech equipment
Think about it
At the very least the numbers are inflated
Why would you inflate those numbers . . . Could it be that the money to fund those camps came from people who would rather renain unknown
I smell bullshyt . . And of a type i wouldnt use in my garden
Ps
Ill indulge only for as long as it takes tweedledee to figure out google
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Can you then logically explain the existence of Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka
Proof that Treblinka was an extermination camp is contained in a 16-page secret document, that was submitted by Nazi statistician Dr. Richard Korherr to Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler on March 27, 1943. Reichsführer-SS Himmler was a five-star general and the leader of the SS; he was responsible for all the Nazi concentration camps, which were administered by the SS. This report on "The Final Solution of the European Jewish Problem," compiled at Himmler's request, stated that of the 1,449,692 Jews deported from the Eastern provinces, 1,274,366 had been subjected to Sonderbehandlung at camps in the General Government.
In 2000, a document called the Höfle Telegram was discovered by Holocaust historians in the Public Records Office in Kew, England. This document consists of two intercepted encoded messages, both of which were sent from Lublin on January 11, 1943 by SS-Sturmbannführer Hermann Höfle, and marked "state secret." One message was sent to Adolf Eichmann in the Reich Security Main Office (RSHA) in Berlin and the other to SS-Oberststurmbannführer Franz Heim, deputy commander of the Security Police (SIPO) at the headquarters of German-occupied Poland in Krakow.
The encoded messages gave the number of arrivals at the Operation Reinhard camps during the previous two weeks and the following totals for Jews sent to the Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor and Lublin (Majdanek) camps in 1942:
Treblinka, 71,355; Belzec, 434,500; Sobibor, 101,370; and Majdanek, 24,733.
The number for Treblinka, 71,355, was a typographical error; the correct number should be 713,555, based on the total given. The total "arrivals" for the four camps matches the total of 1,274,166 "evacuated" Jews in the Korherr Report.
Besides the freight trains that carried the Jews in box cars to Treblinka, there were also passenger trains with 3,000 people on board each train, as well as trucks and horse-drawn wagons that brought the victims to Treblinka.
They had a railhead and no related work factories for the prisoners they had train schedules that showed trains arriving full nearly every day full but no one ever left...........
As for the cremation times maybe you might want to look into how the bodies were disposed and the processes the Nazis used.
At Auschwitz, the corpses were incinerated in crematoria and the ashes either buried, scattered, or dumped in the river. At Sobibór, Treblinka, Belzec, and Chełmno, the corpses were incinerated on pyres. The efficiency of industrialised killing at Auschwitz-Birkenau led to the construction of three buildings with crematoria designed by specialists from Topf und Söhne. They handled the body disposal around the clock, day and night, and yet the speed of gassing required that some corpses burn in an open air pit also
These supplementary open air cremation pits are clearly visible in aerial recognisance photos.
Auschwitz had at its peak Fifty two crematorium ovens.
At the Nuremberg Trials after World War II, a deputy of Adolf Eichmann, SS-Hauptsturmführer Dieter Wisliceny gave the following testimony regarding Aktion 1005.
In November 1942, in Eichmann's office in Berlin, I met Standartenfuehrer Plobel who was leader of Kommando 1005, which was specially assigned to remove all traces of the final solution of the Jewish problem by Einsatz Groups and all other executions. Kommando 1005 operated from at least autumn 1942 to September 1944 and was all this period subordinated to Eichmann. The mission was constituted after it first became apparent that Germany would not be able to hold all the territory occupied in the East and it was considered necessary to remove all traces of the criminal executions that had been committed. While in Berlin in November 1942, Plobel [sic] gave a lecture before Eichmann's staff of specialists on the Jewish question from the occupied territories. He spoke of the special incinerators he had personally constructed for use in the work of Kommando 1005. It was their particular assignment to open the graves and remove and cremate the bodies of persons who had been previously executed. Kommando 1005 operated in Russia, Poland and through the Baltic area. I again saw Plobel [sic] in Hungary in 1944 and he stated to Eichmann in my presence that the mission of Kommando 1005 had been completed. — SS-Hauptsturmführer Dieter Wisliceny [12]
Blobel was sentenced to death by the U.S. Nuremberg Military Tribunal in the Einsatzgruppen Trial. He was hanged at Landsberg Prison on June 8, 1951. Nearly 60,000 deaths are attributable to Blobel though during testimony at Nuremberg he alleged he only killed between 10,000–15,000 people.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderaktion_1005
Oscar
28th December 2015, 14:01
Read your own posts
I knew you wouldnt . . . sorry couldnt deal with any informstion . .
Not even a simple name could you look up
And you have the gaul to call others stupid
Holy cow
The thing that worries me is that you have been free and running loose in society since arriving here
Voting . . Participating in society and god forbid breeding
One can only speculate on the trail of destruction you have wreaked
Now be a good fellow . Type in the name i gave you and you may find the answers to why the german people thought so much of mr hitler
8 yr olds are particularly adept st computers if you need help
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Now you're starting to argue with yourself.
I have no intention of debating anything with the likes of you.
I only come back here occasionally to marvel on the fact that the internet has yet to reach it's lowest level of stupidity.
However keep it up, I'm sure either you or the old cahnt will win the prize as the biggest idjut on the web...
Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 14:37
Now you're starting to argue with yourself.
I have no intention of debating anything with the likes of you.
I only come back here occasionally to marvel on the fact that the internet has yet to reach it's lowest level of stupidity.
However keep it up, I'm sure either you or the old cahnt will win the prize as the biggest idjut on the web...
Oscieeee dont give up
Surely you must have someone of whom to turn to when modern technology proves a triffle daunting
So as per . .ya gums were flapping names were a flyin
You were given a simple name to look up which if you had half an ounce of curiosity you may have asked the nice young librarian to help you do a search .
But ya didnt . .
Hey hoo there is always next year
Did you know you can record the infomercials and watch em later just point your vcr camera at the tv screen and press play and rec at the same time if you see a red light on the camera its recording
Enjoy
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Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 14:40
Can you then logically explain the existence of Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka
They had a railhead and no related work factories for the prisoners they had train schedules that showed trains arriving full nearly every day full but no one ever left...........
As for the cremation times maybe you might want to look into how the bodies were disposed and the processes the Nazis used.
These supplementary open air cremation pits are clearly visible in aerial recognisance photos.
Auschwitz had at its peak Fifty two crematorium ovens.
At the Nuremberg Trials after World War II, a deputy of Adolf Eichmann, SS-Hauptsturmführer Dieter Wisliceny gave the following testimony regarding Aktion 1005.
No I cant
So you are going to hae to get another crackpot label printed up
I might be needing it
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husaberg
28th December 2015, 14:53
No I cant
So you are going to hae to get another crackpot label printed up
I might be needing it
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I guess you might, As a Crackpot that's what you call someone who not only forms an opinion, He then voices it, but when is questioned about it systamitically avoids answering any questions that might cause them to admit they actually have zero foundation to support it rather than a vague hunch.
Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 15:01
I guess you might, As a Crackpot that's what you call someone who not only forms an opinion, He then voices it, but when is questioned about it systamitically avoids answering any questions that might cause them to admit they actually have zero foundation to support it rather than a vague hunch.
No we have been down that path before
For the record
Things dont add up so something aint right
Or someone is bullshyting
Not saying hitler and his mate were all lovely people here
No the word thugs come to mind
But . .
Print label move on . ..
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Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 15:03
frank winterbottom
Great musicisn esp when in the royal marines in 1870
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bogan
28th December 2015, 15:04
Great musicisn esp when in the royal marines in 1870
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Nope, not what I meant.
husaberg
28th December 2015, 15:06
No we have been down that path before
For the record
Things dont add up so something aint right
Or someone is bullshyting
Not saying hitler and his mate were all lovely people here
No the word thugs come to mind
But . .
Print label move on . ..
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Stephen I gave you the chance to do some of your own research.
You voiced that you thought it didn't add up based on the time taken to cremate your father.
What did you find that is the difference in procedures used then and now that easily explains how the Germans were able to incinerate the bodies so fast back then compared to a modern crematorium facility.
Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 15:16
Nope, not what I meant.
Shame because he was a great musician
Still if you are in a common industry with a common name mistaks are bound to happen
Though if you were in an uncommon postion with a peculiar name one would ,i presume
Stand out
I new a frank winterbottom used to run a farm n banks peninsula might have played rugby at lincon
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Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 15:21
Stephen I gave you the chance to do some of your own research.
You voiced that you thought it didn't add up based on the time taken to cremate your father.
What did you find that is the difference in procedures used then and now that easily explains how the Germans were able to incinerate the bodies so fast back then compared to a modern crematorium facility.
Sothe germans in 1940 had eter equiment
Rubbish
And i did look into it and hense my current opinion
Too many roads leading to the bullshyt button
And due to the fellas from zion track record in shouting wolf
Im comfortable with my current opinion
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bogan
28th December 2015, 15:32
Shame because he was a great musician
Still if you are in a common industry with a common name mistaks are bound to happen
Though if you were in an uncommon postion with a peculiar name one would ,i presume
Stand out
I new a frank winterbottom used to run a farm n banks peninsula might have played rugby at lincon
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All irrelevant. I gave you a name, but since you don't beleive as I do, you must be completely incompetent at doing your own research and it's far below me to do any sort of spoon feeding. insert additional insults, blah blah blah.
You guys see why you're fuckwits yet?
Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 15:42
All irrelevant. I gave you a name, but since you don't beleive as I do, you must be completely incompetent at doing your own research and it's far below me to do any sort of spoon feeding. insert additional insults, blah blah blah.
You guys see why you're fuckwits yet?
Ummm no
You are just being stupid
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bogan
28th December 2015, 15:53
Ummm no
You are just being stupid
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As were you, stop hiding behind this lazy arse bullshit of vaguely directing somebody towards a bloke who (allegedly) thinks like you do, and instead support your own statements with logic and reason.
husaberg
28th December 2015, 16:07
Sothe germans in 1940 had eter equiment
Rubbish
And i did look into it and hense my current opinion
Too many roads leading to the bullshyt button
And due to the fellas from zion track record in shouting wolf
Im comfortable with my current opinion
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Incorrect and also lazy why don't you actually do a bit of research into the differences in the modern way vs how the Germans did it back then
you might find the process used was a little different. What do you have to lose.
After all its not as if you have made up your mind before actually doing any research is it?
I grant you plenty of latitude because I know you are far smarter than Yokel (but then again so is my lemon tree and most fungal infections)
Oscar
28th December 2015, 16:11
Oscieeee dont give up
Surely you must have someone of whom to turn to when modern technology proves a triffle daunting
So as per . .ya gums were flapping names were a flyin
You were given a simple name to look up which if you had half an ounce of curiosity you may have asked the nice young librarian to help you do a search .
But ya didnt . .
Hey hoo there is always next year
Did you know you can record the infomercials and watch em later just point your vcr camera at the tv screen and press play and rec at the same time if you see a red light on the camera its recording
Enjoy
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Wow, every time I think you've plumbed the depths of your feeble-mindedness, you surprise me.
I have no intention of seeking out your odious and silly theories.
My recurring thought is that anyone who posts the bilge that you do lacks any capacity for critical thinking and could be sold a bridge by a bag of hammers.
Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 16:24
As were you, stop hiding behind this lazy arse bullshit of vaguely directing somebody towards a bloke who (allegedly) thinks like you do, and instead support your own statements with logic and reason.
the reply to uncle Oscar was warranted under the circumstances, I KNOW he will not set forth from his narrow paradigm so why waste my valuable time
Give him a name , a bone to chew on and if he has any questions then answer them .
Plenty of time given to people who ask interesting questions ...very little time to those that dont ( looked into the holocaust ...and came to my conclusion , because it was a good question from a honest fella ...)
I did a while back spend time explaining and posting my opinions ..now your quite right , Im a lazy arsed crockpot ...Theres a very good reason why too.......
NO ONE has even asked who Hjamer Scharcht was... such an unusual name for a nazi dont you think ...? or did you even think that was an unusual name ?
I doubt Dr Sharcht and I would share the same opinion apart from patriotism maybe ..... but the as you are familiar with the good doctor , I assume I can talk freely and the discussion can move forward .
I think it was the removal of the international debt based currency that was his undoing
what do you think?
yokel
28th December 2015, 16:29
Anyone that denies millions of people died at the hands of the Nazis by being gassed is a crackpot.
Especially considering all of the experts you offered up previously as being proof have admitted it obviously occurred.
I note you have also previously admitted that there was gas chamber used on Jews did you forget that.:done:
As is you key conspiracy expert, even the real professor he tried to get to back up his theories concluded and testified that his theories are Nuts.
Do you deny this was what occurred?
As for your school results they had nothing to do with your lack of intelligence though did they?:laugh:
Maybe it was a conspiracy...........
The fact remains that what the Holocaust historians try pass off as gas chambers are not gas chambers at all.
This leaves two conclusions,
A- The Holocaust historians are bunch completely incompetent buffoons that actually believe they are gas chambers.
B- They are lying.
I say B.
Fun fact,
There was some 20,000 forced-labour camps.
husaberg
28th December 2015, 16:32
The fact remains that what the Holocaust historians try pass off as gas chambers are not gas chambers at all.
This leaves two conclusions,
A- The Holocaust historians are bunch completely incompetent buffoons that actually believe they are gas chambers.
B- They are lying.
I say B.
Fun fact,
There was some 20,000 forced-labour camps.
I do believe you are again trying to change the subject
If you can't show me a Nazi gas chamber capable of gassing thousands of people in one gassing then you are the crackpot.
As for School cert, I got B's in science and metal work two C's in some other shit and a D the english.
I didn't really try that hard at school, left after fifth from.
Anyone that denies millions of people died at the hands of the Nazis by being gassed is a crackpot.
Especially considering all of the experts you offered up previously as being proof have admitted it obviously occurred.
As for David Irving? well he seems to be quite a logical reasonable fellow.
the fact that historians can not question or have a different view of the Holocaust means its most likely bullshit,
that is why it's a logical fallacy to say all historians agree with the Holocaust, that's why it's true.
liars don't like being questioned.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/D2ZzrYRRpHU
I note you have also previously admitted that there was gas chamber used on Jews did you forget that.:done:
and that 4 tons of zyklon b? well only 5% was used for gassing jews
anything to do with documentation I don't really trust as being genuine, documents help support the physical evidence but on its own it's useless.
The British revisionist historian and Nazi apologist David Irving was today sentenced to three years in prison after he admitted denying the Holocaust.
Irving had pleaded guilty to denying the Holocaust in two speeches on a visit to Austria in 1989, but said at the trial that he had later changed his views. The speeches included a call for an end to the "gas chambers fairy tale", and claims that Adolf Hitler had helped Europe's Jews and that the Holocaust was a myth. Irving told the court today he had revised his opinion after seeing the personal files of Adolf Eichmann. Speaking in German, he told the court he now accepted that the Nazis had killed millions of Jews. At one stage, while giving evidence, he expressed sorrow for "all the innocent people" who died during the war. "I made a mistake when I said there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz," he said
As is you key conspiracy expert, even the real professor he tried to get to back up his theories concluded and testified that his theories are Nuts.
Villemoes' lawyer asked Hedegaard if he could support statements he had made about Harrit quoted in an article used in City Court — statements substantiating that Dr. Harrit was a "crackpot". Hedegaard replied that he still agreed with his statements in the article, in which he had called Harrit's theories "nuts." That became the final answer from the last witness of the day.
Do you deny this was what occurred?
As for your school results they had nothing to do with your lack of intelligence though did they?:laugh:
Maybe it was a conspiracy...........
yokel
28th December 2015, 16:41
Ill second that im afraid
Work camps yes
Chambers capable of killing . . . .lice yes
attrocites from all involved . .yes
Sorry but there are just too many things that dont add up
For example. My uncle took between 15 an 20 min to be creamated using the latest high tech equipment
Think about it
At the very least the numbers are inflated
Why would you inflate those numbers . . . Could it be that the money to fund those camps came from people who would rather renain unknown
I smell bullshyt . . And of a type i wouldnt use in my garden
Ps
Ill indulge only for as long as it takes tweedledee to figure out google
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Yes, I smell a rat.
People still say 6,000,000 when the official number is now less than 3,000,000.
some interesting info on cremation. https://youtu.be/-rhGMCYWqKI?t=6m57s
Waihou Thumper
28th December 2015, 16:50
Yes, I smell a rat.
People still say 6,000,000 when the official number is now less than 3,000,000.
some interesting info on cremation. https://youtu.be/-rhGMCYWqKI?t=6m57s
Your post count is frozen? For a good reason....:)
Why hasn't this muppet's posts ever gone past 40? What gives?
I reckon they only count the ones that are worthwhile perhaps?
Still a fucking useless newbie.....obviously. :facepalm:
yokel
28th December 2015, 16:51
I do believe you are again trying to change the subject
Anyone that denies millions of people died at the hands of the Nazis by being gassed is a crackpot.
Especially considering all of the experts you offered up previously as being proof have admitted it obviously occurred.
I note you have also previously admitted that there was gas chamber used on Jews did you forget that.:done:
As is you key conspiracy expert, even the real professor he tried to get to back up his theories concluded and testified that his theories are Nuts.
Do you deny this was what occurred?
As for your school results they had nothing to do with your lack of intelligence though did they?:laugh:
Maybe it was a conspiracy...........
I don't know how you get I admitted that there was gas chamber used on Jew from that??
the 5% of zyclon B used is what's claimed by the Holocaust historians.
no jews were gassed.
yokel
28th December 2015, 16:54
Your post count is frozen? For a good reason....:)
Why hasn't this muppet's posts ever gone past 40? What gives?
I reckon they only count the ones that are worthwhile perhaps?
That means your post is not worthwhile ether.
you stalking me bro?
Waihou Thumper
28th December 2015, 16:57
you stalking me bro?
No of course not. I am just following your erudite conversation...:weird:
AND I am not your Bro....you simple minded Fuck!
Doesn't exist, it's a BOT!
1. Simple computer program used to perform highly repetitive operations, :wings:
Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 17:03
No of course not. I am just following your erudite conversation...:weird:
AND I am not your Bro....you simple minded Fuck!
Doesn't exist, it's a BOT!
1. Simple computer program used to perform highly repetitive operations, :wings:
Fucking intelligent BOT that one amazing what they can do now a days
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Brian d marge
28th December 2015, 17:05
Yes, I smell a rat.
People still say 6,000,000 when the official number is now less than 3,000,000.
some interesting info on cremation. https://youtu.be/-rhGMCYWqKI?t=6m57s
Sorry i live with an expert
One day Ill post a picture of sunday lunch
the fkin aga went thermo nuclear
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husaberg
28th December 2015, 17:15
I don't know how you get I admitted that there was gas chamber used on Jew from that??
the 5% of zyclon B used is what's claimed by the Holocaust historians.
no jews were gassed.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/172649-USA-and-Israel?p=1130878651#post1130878651
and that 4 tons of zyklon b? well only 5% was used for gassing jews
anything to do with documentation I don't really trust as being genuine, documents help support the physical evidence but on its own it's useless.
I also posted a series of questions Does your E in School Cert English mean you can't read as well as comprehend.
The fact remains that what the Holocaust historians try pass off as gas chambers are not gas chambers at all.
This leaves two conclusions,
A- The Holocaust historians are bunch completely incompetent buffoons that actually believe they are gas chambers.
B- They are lying.
I say B.
Fun fact,
There was some 20,000 forced-labour camps.
I do believe you are again trying to change the subject
If you can't show me a Nazi gas chamber capable of gassing thousands of people in one gassing then you are the crackpot.
As for School cert, I got B's in science and metal work two C's in some other shit and a D the english.
I didn't really try that hard at school, left after fifth from.
Anyone that denies millions of people died at the hands of the Nazis by being gassed is a crackpot.
Especially considering all of the experts you offered up previously as being proof have admitted it obviously occurred.
As for David Irving? well he seems to be quite a logical reasonable fellow.
the fact that historians can not question or have a different view of the Holocaust means its most likely bullshit,
that is why it's a logical fallacy to say all historians agree with the Holocaust, that's why it's true.
liars don't like being questioned.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/D2ZzrYRRpHU
The British revisionist historian and Nazi apologist David Irving was today sentenced to three years in prison after he admitted denying the Holocaust.
Irving had pleaded guilty to denying the Holocaust in two speeches on a visit to Austria in 1989, but said at the trial that he had later changed his views. The speeches included a call for an end to the "gas chambers fairy tale", and claims that Adolf Hitler had helped Europe's Jews and that the Holocaust was a myth. Irving told the court today he had revised his opinion after seeing the personal files of Adolf Eichmann. Speaking in German, he told the court he now accepted that the Nazis had killed millions of Jews. At one stage, while giving evidence, he expressed sorrow for "all the innocent people" who died during the war. "I made a mistake when I said there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz," he said
As is you key conspiracy expert, even the real professor he tried to get to back up his theories concluded and testified that his theories are Nuts.
Villemoes' lawyer asked Hedegaard if he could support statements he had made about Harrit quoted in an article used in City Court — statements substantiating that Dr. Harrit was a "crackpot". Hedegaard replied that he still agreed with his statements in the article, in which he had called Harrit's theories "nuts." That became the final answer from the last witness of the day.
Do you deny this was what occurred?
As for your school results they had nothing to do with your lack of intelligence though did they?:laugh:
Maybe it was a conspiracy...........
PrincessBandit
29th December 2015, 17:52
Your post count is frozen? For a good reason....:)
Why hasn't this muppet's posts ever gone past 40? What gives?
I reckon they only count the ones that are worthwhile perhaps?
Still a fucking useless newbie.....obviously. :facepalm:
Post count: I seem to recall posts on R'n'R don't contribute to your post count. I could be mistaken. (For the benefit if anyone who took the post count question seriously).
Voltaire
30th December 2015, 20:46
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Brian d marge
30th December 2015, 22:31
We could all march up and down shouting . .now that would be fun
https://youtu.be/HwY1kYXMZHY
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oldrider
31st December 2015, 02:55
The Zionists "thought" that he was their puppet but he kicked the ladder out from under them and carried on without them!
Hitler employed all the Zionists own secret monetary methodologies for the benefit of German governance and exposed their shady practices for what they were!
Hitler proved that without the Zionist monetary constraints any nation could easily lead the world economically technically militarily and politically as never before!
This really pissed the Zionists off and they pulled out all stops to put him in his place and punish anyone who may develop aspirations to imitate him!
The Zionists have carried on a policy to ridicule and denounce him so much that no one else would/could ever pick up where Hitler left off as he almost defeated them!
Hitler was exposing and kicking shit out of the Zionist (monetary dominated) rice bowl and Germany (read whole world?) was made to pay dearly for that indiscretion!
Try tuning in to Sky television etc and finding there is not a slot of programming that doesn't defame or focus on Hitler and/or the the Nazi period of German history!
It never bloody well stops! - Lest we forget the bad bits and start to focus on the good bits of Hitler's successful period in power!
The German people did not follow Hitler because he was a numskull - they followed him because he was a very successful and persuasive leader!
Had Hitler won WW2 - how do you think the world would compare to the way it is today? - We are not allowed to even think about that - let alone mention it! :oi-grr:
Tell a lie often enough in every form of media, theatre and educational process to the exclusion of all forms of alternative opinion - it will become the accepted truth!
How do you know that what you think you know about history is actually what really happened if you don't challenge it or ask why? - Think about that for a little while!
Have you been fooled? :scratch: - Or are you totally convinced that you have always been told the historic truth? :niceone:
And as usual it would be futile to ask for a ounce of proof?
Some documentary evidence that would back up your anti-Semitic ravings?
You are a bigoted old fool.
Well you could begin by listening to some other opinions points of view or historic facts about German history under Hitler such as this for example:
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkenkfRTn4c
[Quote]● "Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 on, which accounts for Germany's startling rise from the depression to a world power in five years. The German government financed its entire operations from 1935 to 1945 without gold, and without debt. It took the entire Capitalist and Communist world to destroy the German revolution, and bring Europe back under the heel of the Bankers."
- Quote taken from: Sheldon Emry's Book:
'Billions for the Bankers, Debts for the People' (1984) [unquote] - http://liberty-tree.ca/research/Billions.for.the.Bankers
Of course while not claiming everything this (or any other) author says is verbatim absolutely correct he does offer an alternative presentation to that of the mainstream media of the Western world for "consideration" by those who are interested in true history!
Oscar
31st December 2015, 07:22
Well you could begin by listening to some other opinions points of view or historic facts about German history under Hitler such as this for example:
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkenkfRTn4c
[Quote]● "Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 on, which accounts for Germany's startling rise from the depression to a world power in five years. The German government financed its entire operations from 1935 to 1945 without gold, and without debt. It took the entire Capitalist and Communist world to destroy the German revolution, and bring Europe back under the heel of the Bankers."
- Quote taken from: Sheldon Emry's Book:
'Billions for the Bankers, Debts for the People' (1984) [unquote] - http://liberty-tree.ca/research/Billions.for.the.Bankers
Of course while not claiming everything this (or any other) author says is verbatim absolutely correct he does offer an alternative presentation to that of the mainstream media of the Western world for "consideration" by those who are interested in true history!
Posting stuff like:
Hitler proved that without the Zionist monetary constraints any nation could easily lead the world economically technically militarily and politically as never before!
Makes you look like a bigoted anti-Semitic idiot.
You need to think about these opinions that you're quoting and perhaps use that calcified disaster area between your ears for a change.
For example "Zionist monetary constraints" indicates a cabal or conspiracy that you have not provided evidence for because it doesn't exist.
Just grow up and think for yourself for a change.
Katman
31st December 2015, 07:26
For example "Zionist monetary constraints" indicates a cabal or conspiracy that you have not provided evidence for because it doesn't exist.
Plenty of evidence exists to indicate just such a Zionist cabal.
Your Jew-coloured glasses are preventing you from seeing the evidence though.
Oscar
31st December 2015, 07:37
Plenty of evidence exists to indicate just such a cabal.
Your Jew-coloured glasses are preventing you from seeing the evidence though.
And another village idiot, right on cue.
Offensive and stupid, just like the average Hitler admirer.
Oscar
31st December 2015, 07:40
Well you could begin by listening to some other opinions points of view or historic facts about German history under Hitler such as this for example:
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkenkfRTn4c
[Quote]● "Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 on, which accounts for Germany's startling rise from the depression to a world power in five years. The German government financed its entire operations from 1935 to 1945 without gold, and without debt. It took the entire Capitalist and Communist world to destroy the German revolution, and bring Europe back under the heel of the Bankers."
- Quote taken from: Sheldon Emry's Book:
'Billions for the Bankers, Debts for the People' (1984) [unquote] - http://liberty-tree.ca/research/Billions.for.the.Bankers
Of course while not claiming everything this (or any other) author says is verbatim absolutely correct he does offer an alternative presentation to that of the mainstream media of the Western world for "consideration" by those who are interested in true history!
So would you like to explain the fact that the German national debt was 40 billion Resichsmarks in 1939?
This was on a total government income of 30 billion Resichsmarks in 1939.
oldrider
31st December 2015, 12:50
[QUOTE=oldrider;1130933640]Well you could begin by listening to some other opinions points of view or historic facts about German history under Hitler such as this for example:
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkenkfRTn4c
So would you like to explain the fact that the German national debt was 40 billion Resichsmarks in 1939?
This was on a total government income of 30 billion Resichsmarks in 1939.
Your not interested and frankly I can't be bothered so I will just wish you and yours a Happy new Year for 2016 - cheers.
Brian d marge
31st December 2015, 14:30
[QUOTE=oldrider;1130933640]Well you could begin by listening to some other opinions points of view or historic facts about German history under Hitler such as this for example:
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkenkfRTn4c
So would you like to explain the fact that the German national debt was 40 billion Resichsmarks in 1939?
This was on a total government income of 30 billion Resichsmarks in 1939.
Those roads had be paid for
Keynesian economics was all the rage my dear even
If the new deal could work in america . . .
But you already knew that . . .
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husaberg
31st December 2015, 14:33
And another village idiot, right on cue.
Offensive and stupid, just like the average Hitler admirer.
He has said it before in pretty much those exact words previously.
Funny enough
Later, after Hitler was elected Chancellor he made a deal with Alfried Krupp - then Europe's leading industrialist - that if he would help him convince the rest of Germany's leading industrialists to back the Nazi party both politically and financially, Hitler would make sure Krupp would get preferred treatment during the rebuilding of the army. The deals he made with the others was that they would get government contracts when he rebuilt Germany's military if they would start hiring and tell their workers to support the Nazi party as the economic saviour of Germany. In addition he arranged for loans from Germany's leading banks and financiers based on the introductions from Krupp and the other industrialists to help fund public works projects aimed at getting Germans back to work and preparing the nation's infrastructure for what was to come. This is all described in Alfried Krupp's autobiography; he survived the war and a prison term and even got his family's steel works back into operation before he died.
In the wake of the world economic crisis, unemployment was high in Europe. Germany had even more financial problems than other nations because of obligations in the Treaty of Versailles, a consequence of WWI. Nevertheless, unemployment decreased in Germany more than elsewhere in Europe because Hitler and Schacht used deficit spending to finance massive job-creation programs. From 1936 on, these programs focused on re-armament. They were mostly financed by means of so-called Mefo bills, a system of deferred payment. Mefo (full name: Metallurgische Forschungsgesellschaft mbH) was a shell company (founded by Schacht) whose sole function was to accept promissory notes, mainly from armament manufacturers. This created a bubble economy, and Schacht stepped down in 1939, but the whole scandal was covered up when war broke out.
Nazi government was operating on the edge as early as 1937, and that looting the Austrian treasury in that year kept things afloat. Siezing the Ceczh treasury in early 1939 helped as well.
Germany's current balance of payments moved into deficit in 1938. In the winter of 38/39 Hitler faced a choice of either curtailing civilian consumption or slowing down rearmament.
Goering November 1938 "There is a tremendous shortage of skilled workers .....This cannot be relieved through closing down the factories which produce seemingly unimportant consumer goods. For when the workers can no longer buy consumer goods for their wages......that is the beginning of inflation, and that is the beginning of the end".
The Nazis given Germany's recent history of hyper inflation would naturally wish to avoid inflation at all costs. Hitler 22 August 1939 "Our economic situation is such that we can hold out a few more years.....We have no other choice, we must act".
Military outlays as a percent of national income (GDP for Germany):
1935: France 5.8%, Britain 2% Germany 6%
1938: France 8.6%, Britain 8%, Germany 17.2%
1939: France 23%, Britain 22%, Germany 30%
Its pretty easy to see why and what the money was being spent on.
This was also contrary to popular belief despite being repeatedly given huge write offs and concessions from the WW1 war reparations
In 1933, the new German Chancellor Adolf Hitler cancelled all payments
Brian d marge
31st December 2015, 14:53
He has said it before in pretty much those exact words previously.
Funny enough
Later, after Hitler was elected Chancellor he made a deal with Alfried Krupp - then Europe's leading industrialist - that if he would help him convince the rest of Germany's leading industrialists to back the Nazi party both politically and financially, Hitler would make sure Krupp would get preferred treatment during the rebuilding of the army. The deals he made with the others was that they would get government contracts when he rebuilt Germany's military if they would start hiring and tell their workers to support the Nazi party as the economic saviour of Germany. In addition he arranged for loans from Germany's leading banks and financiers based on the introductions from Krupp and the other industrialists to help fund public works projects aimed at getting Germans back to work and preparing the nation's infrastructure for what was to come. This is all described in Alfried Krupp's autobiography; he survived the war and a prison term and even got his family's steel works back into operation before he died.
In the wake of the world economic crisis, unemployment was high in Europe. Germany had even more financial problems than other nations because of obligations in the Treaty of Versailles, a consequence of WWI. Nevertheless, unemployment decreased in Germany more than elsewhere in Europe because Hitler and Schacht used deficit spending to finance massive job-creation programs. From 1936 on, these programs focused on re-armament. They were mostly financed by means of so-called Mefo bills, a system of deferred payment. Mefo (full name: Metallurgische Forschungsgesellschaft mbH) was a shell company (founded by Schacht) whose sole function was to accept promissory notes, mainly from armament manufacturers. This created a bubble economy, and Schacht stepped down in 1939, but the whole scandal was covered up when war broke out.
Nazi government was operating on the edge as early as 1937, and that looting the Austrian treasury in that year kept things afloat. Siezing the Ceczh treasury in early 1939 helped as well.
Germany's current balance of payments moved into deficit in 1938. In the winter of 38/39 Hitler faced a choice of either curtailing civilian consumption or slowing down rearmament.
Goering November 1938 "There is a tremendous shortage of skilled workers .....This cannot be relieved through closing down the factories which produce seemingly unimportant consumer goods. For when the workers can no longer buy consumer goods for their wages......that is the beginning of inflation, and that is the beginning of the end".
The Nazis given Germany's recent history of hyper inflation would naturally wish to avoid inflation at all costs. Hitler 22 August 1939 "Our economic situation is such that we can hold out a few more years.....We have no other choice, we must act".
Military outlays as a percent of national income (GDP for Germany):
1935: France 5.8%, Britain 2% Germany 6%
1938: France 8.6%, Britain 8%, Germany 17.2%
1939: France 23%, Britain 22%, Germany 30%
Its pretty easy to see why and what the money was being spent on.
Whats the difference between a whooping great big dam
And some refrigerators . . Er panzers
Im also not convinced that seizing the czech treasury helped that much
Hard assets yes treasury no
Another country that tried to go it alone was Italy
That went well . . . Not
So the lessons we can learn , . . If ya go against the boys and their baylonian debt based system it will end in tears
Big time
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husaberg
31st December 2015, 14:58
Whats the difference between a whooping great big dam
And some refrigerators . . Er panzers
Im also not convinced that seizing the czech treasury helped that much
Hard assets yes treasury no
Another country that tried to go it alone was Italy
That went well . . . Not
So the lessons we can learn , . . If ya go against the boys and their baylonian debt based system it will end in tears
Big time
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Back then Stephan the treasury's assets were GOLD.......
looting assets from annexed Austria, occupied Czechoslovakia, and Nazi-governed Danzig. It is believed that these three sources boosted German official gold reserves by US $71m between 1937 and 1939.
They even managed by threating the bank officials with death to get 50 tons of Czech reserve gold transferred over in England. Before anyone caught on.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/bank-of-england/10213988/Never-mind-the-Czech-gold-the-Nazis-stole....html
Brian d marge
31st December 2015, 16:01
Back then Stephan the treasury's assets were GOLD.......
looting assets from annexed Austria, occupied Czechoslovakia, and Nazi-governed Danzig. It is believed that these three sources boosted German official gold reserves by US $71m between 1937 and 1939.
They even managed by threating the bank officials with death to get 50 tons of Czech reserve gold transferred over in England. Before anyone caught on.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/bank-of-england/10213988/Never-mind-the-Czech-gold-the-Nazis-stole....html
Didnt help much
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/BSPDRWeltkriseEngl.PNG
And if i remember germany had come off the gold standard in about 33 and was funding internal expansion through government issued bonds as well as a refusal to payback overseas debt
Except one the dawes and young loan
It wasnt as rosy for the average german as one might think but it would have been a lot worse if mr hiltler have gone totally iceland on the bankers
The point is with keynesian ecomomics ya spend in the bad times and pay back in the good
Twas NZ formula for many a year until the arab money seduced a certain socialist
Anyway war ( may have) helped america hide its debts and we will never find out if germany could have
Either way the war had nowt to do with the silly little man with the face fungus
Much more to do with . . .money . . . . Just imagine if the great unwashed found out that debt free money was the way to go . . . . Bad juju . . right there .
Ps
Bank of england and old monty . . And scharcht best mates
And owned by the zionist
Look at the zionist finger prints all over the german economy until Georing took over
husaberg
31st December 2015, 16:18
Didnt help much
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/BSPDRWeltkriseEngl.PNG
And if i remember germany had come off the gold standard in about 33 and was funding internal expansion through government issued bonds as well as a refusal to payback overseas debt
I hate to burst your bubble Stephen, but whether or not the Germans were on the gold standard does not make 100's of tons of gold little or no value.
It wasnt as rosy for the average german as one might think but it would have been a lot worse if mr hiltler have gone totally iceland on the bankers
The whole world at the time was coming out of a global recession, the point I was making was Oldies posts about the great financial genius of Hitler was both naïve, wrong and plain stupid.
Brian d marge
31st December 2015, 16:38
Well i agree about the value of the gold
Gold . .money retains wealth
Hitler . .i.e scharcht and the fella before him was hitlers good management of finances
So im afraid that I agree the oldrider
Though I will add the caveat that life in germany wasnt all a box of chocolates those unemployment figures were definitely massaged as were some employment practices
Now i dont want to head down this path again but i just thought
If you had a labour skill shortage as Georing said early 40s
Why would you exterminate a labour asset . . . Me I would be making em work , .just a thought . . . off topic
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husaberg
31st December 2015, 16:56
Well i agree about the value of the gold
Gold . .money retains wealth
Hitler . .i.e scharcht and the fella before him was hitlers good management of finances
So im afraid that I agree the oldrider
Though I will add the caveat that life in germany wasnt all a box of chocolates those unemployment figures were definitely massaged as were some employment practices
Now i dont want to head down this path again but i just thought
If you had a labour skill shortage as Georing said early 40s
Why would you exterminate a labour asset . . . Me I would be making em work , .just a thought . . . off topic
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You seem to forget the labour skilled labour shortages were brought about by the elimination of millions of the countries future best and brightest workers in a previous war not so long previously over which monarch actually had the shiniest helmet.
Also there was quite a few best and brightest actually left the country over not being able to hold any opinion other than that the little moustached one was totally ubber cool and it was unreasonable as well as deadly to have any opinions that might be contrary to his total godlike ubber coolness.
Funny thing is all the free thinkers on KB are so quick to call the moustached one a great idol while shouting down everyone every authority figure seem to forget that holding unpopular opinions about authority would have resulted in them disappearing without a trace one night in 1933-1945 Germany. I love that irony......
Brian d marge
31st December 2015, 17:10
Now you will have to excuae me from this conversation for a few min
This free thinker has just burnt a hole in the kitchen table . . Wife seriously not happy . . Might have to emigrate . .
As I said mr h was indeed brutal or while not being himself brutal the others that he aligned himself with were
But imagine the mess if the versailles treaty was allowed to continue
We call it austerity now and she is called angela same agenda same zionist (judaic christian alliance) only 3 countries without a cenral bank . . .they are indeed pesistant
Ps
Germany weponary was the coolist , .the tiger . . .the panzer
Britain . The matilda
The prosecution rests
Untill he can fix the table
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Brian d marge
31st December 2015, 17:13
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20151231/8f6c210bede69fc2f469516bbcc2564b.jpg
Is this in the right thread
Why do women get so upset over a little dent in the table cant hardly see it . .
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Katman
31st December 2015, 17:17
Buy a new table cloth.
Problem solved.
Brian d marge
31st December 2015, 17:25
Buy a new table cloth.
Problem solved.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20151231/931aaf1708bab940ff5453e17f3e8af9.jpg
Sorted
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RGVforme
31st December 2015, 17:31
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20151231/8f6c210bede69fc2f469516bbcc2564b.jpg
Is this in the right thread
Why do women get so upset over a little dent in the table cant hardly see it . .
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FFS just don't burn that popcorn later or you might not see in the new year lol. :corn: :argue:
husaberg
31st December 2015, 17:46
Now you will have to excuae me from this conversation for a few min
This free thinker has just burnt a hole in the kitchen table . . Wife seriously not happy . . Might have to emigrate . .
As I said mr h was indeed brutal or while not being himself brutal the others that he aligned himself with were
But imagine the mess if the versailles treaty was allowed to continue
We call it austerity now and she is called angela same agenda same zionist (judaic christian alliance) only 3 countries without a cenral bank . . .they are indeed pesistant
Ps
Germany weponary was the coolist , .the tiger . . .the panzer
Britain . The matilda
The prosecution rests
Untill he can fix the table
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Pretty sure Those tank names were the allied designations for them, Zee jermaninians in there normal Teutonic efficient way just called them numbers from memory.
But seriously ME109 or FW190 vs Such great names as the Tempest, The Fury, The hurricane, the Typhoon The spitfire.
No wonder they sucked the bratwurst
Tell the misses it could be worse you could have burnt a hole in her.
Katman
31st December 2015, 17:54
But seriously ME105 or FW190.....
Thanks for the history lesson.
husaberg
31st December 2015, 18:07
Thanks for the history lesson.
Someone mentions sucking bratwurst and then you suddenly appear.........while some might say its only a co-incidence
Thanks though for quoting me though, I just realised it should have been ME109.
If you really want a history lesson in how important Gold was to the Germans ask who Max Heiliger was.
Voltaire
31st December 2015, 21:00
Pretty sure Those tank names were the allied designations for them, Zee jermaninians in there normal tectonic efficient way just called them numbers from memory.
But seriously ME109 or FW190 vs Such great names as the Tempest, The Fury, The hurricane, the Typhoon The spitfire.
No wonder they sucked the bratwurst
Tell the misses it could be worse you could have burnt a hole in her.
Great British Tank names like: Matilda, Stuart, Lee/Grant Vs German Tiger, Panther, Jagdpanther....Elefant....oh well....
husaberg
31st December 2015, 21:12
Great British Tank names like: Matilda, Stuart, Lee/Grant Vs German Tiger, Panther, Jagdpanther....Elefant....oh well....
Pz.Kpfw. V and Pz.Kpfw. VI. Panzerkampfwagen 1 and Panzerbefehlswagen doesn't have the same ring does it.
Brian d marge
31st December 2015, 21:16
And if those british tanks were painted in UN peace keeping colors . . They would be refered to as
White elephants
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Brian d marge
31st December 2015, 21:19
Someone mentions sucking bratwurst and then you suddenly appear.........while some might say its only a co-incidence
Thanks though for quoting me though, I just realised it should have been ME109.
If you really want a history lesson in how important Gold was to the Germans ask who Max Heiliger was.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20151231/e12c0d0744d541996bd7d3041a229c48.jpg
Same max one presumes
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mashman
2nd January 2016, 10:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j3glxu2wOc... Capitalism is dead and Bankism rulez. Gold :facepalm:
husaberg
2nd January 2016, 12:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnfT55QO-tU
mashman
2nd January 2016, 16:36
Over 22,000 Iraqi civilians killed & injured in violence in 2015 (https://www.rt.com/news/327678-iraq-war-terrorism-isis/)... :facepalm:
oldrider
2nd January 2016, 21:31
How many of these can you identify on KB?: http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/
We have our enthusiastic amateurs but do we have any professionals? - Some would appear to be a little too enthusiastic but lets give them the benefit of the doubt!
For now anyway! :corn:
bogan
2nd January 2016, 21:41
How many of these can you identify on KB?: http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/
We have our enthusiastic amateurs but do we have any professionals? - Some would appear to be a little too enthusiastic but lets give them the benefit of the doubt!
For now anyway! :corn:
Relevance?
It doesn't matter what somebody else's motivation is unless you are really shit at discussing the points. It does matter what your own motivation is though, as that can often show you to be a bigoted fool.
So are you able to make the logical conclusion as to how the article's irrelevance is relevant?
husaberg
2nd January 2016, 21:45
How many of these can you identify on KB?: http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/
We have our enthusiastic amateurs but do we have any professionals? - Some would appear to be a little too enthusiastic but lets give them the benefit of the doubt!
For now anyway! :corn:
...................
318476
RGVforme
2nd January 2016, 21:51
"Bringing down the tone of the conversation with sexual innuendo"
"Smearing the characters of our opponents"
"Complaining to the moderators"
"Derailing conversations"
FFS KB is loaded with these guys.It must be the site they use to hone their skills!!! :crazy:
That being said if the jobs going where do I sign up....;)
oldrider
2nd January 2016, 21:53
Very fast response from the cheap seats - if the cap fits - as they say! :rolleyes: wear it! :blip:
bogan
2nd January 2016, 22:04
Very fast response from the cheap seats - if the cap fits - as they say! :rolleyes: wear it! :blip:
Very lame ad-hominems and pointless response from you. I've noticed on here it's the bigots and conspiracy theorists that insist on the ad-hominems that take threads off topic and into PD.
Gives rise to a theory, yokel, mashy, katman, and oldy are all shills, all doing the 'false flag' postings; and only doing so because each other is doing it and they think CT's actually have some numbers. When in fact it is just 4 different shill companies with overlapping 'operatives' :killingme
Katman
2nd January 2016, 22:45
I've noticed on here it's the bigots and conspiracy theorists that insist on the ad-hominems that take threads off topic and into PD.
Are you sure it's got nothing to do with the frequency with which you go running crying to the moderators?
bogan
2nd January 2016, 22:50
Are you sure it's got nothing to do with the frequency with which you go running crying to the moderators?
Reporting such poor thread behaviour is just the result, the cause comes before; and as I said, that comes predominantly from cts and bigots resorting to lame ad-hominems.
husaberg
2nd January 2016, 23:28
Reporting such poor thread behaviour is just the result, the cause comes before; and as I said, that comes predominantly from cts and bigots resorting to lame ad-hominems.
Pretty sure it could have nothing to do with anyone telling the mods to suck his cock or another idiot abusing a site administrator......:laugh:
Katman
3rd January 2016, 07:48
Pretty sure it could have nothing to do with anyone telling the mods to suck his cock or another idiot abusing a site administrator......:laugh:
There's that tongue firmly embedded in MT's lower colon again.
yokel
3rd January 2016, 08:26
Reporting such poor thread behaviour is just the result, the cause comes before; and as I said, that comes predominantly from cts and bigots resorting to lame ad-hominems.
It's not a ad-hominem if you fit the disruption.
The "poor" thread behaviour comes from you being a ignorant cunt.
bogan
3rd January 2016, 08:40
It's not a ad-hominem if you fit the disruption.
The "poor" thread behaviour comes from you being a ignorant cunt.
Actually it is the disruption, by definition. So thanks for proving my point.
mashman
4th January 2016, 08:39
http://www.zengardner.com/wp-content/uploads/RockefellerMemoiren-640x480.jpg
https://2012patriot.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/david_rockefeller_msm_world_government_quote.jpg?w =450&h=295
https://gangstalkingsurfers.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/david-rockefeller.jpg?w=300&h=143
Surely he didn't say those things.
Katman
4th January 2016, 10:01
Surely he didn't say those things.
The quotes become even more interesting when examined alongside some of the things Nick Rockefeller is purported to have said to Aaron Russo.
Katman
4th January 2016, 12:01
Henry Kissinger has come out with some doozies as well.
“Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.”
“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
“It is not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.”
“The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.”
And one that is alleged to have been spoken by him, (what is discussed in Bilderburg meetings supposedly stays in Bilderburg meetings), so I'll leave out the quotation marks.
Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the world government.
pritch
4th January 2016, 12:13
Just this morning a Twitter post from a US Republican political advocate named Norquist who has an MBA from Harvard no less. They must be giving the fucking things away?
“An armed people are a free people. If our forefathers were not armed before the American revolution we would all be speaking English today.”
:crazy:
Then there was this from former Presidential candidate and total flake Michele Bachman.
husaberg
4th January 2016, 12:19
It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.
Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.
The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.
All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.
By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.
The art of leadership... consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention.
Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice.
Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized.
The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.
I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
Who says I am not under the special protection of God?
A Hitler
It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion.
If we are attacked we can only defend ourselves with guns not with butter.
We can do without butter, but, despite all our love of peace, not without arms. One cannot shoot with butter, but with guns.
J Goebbels
To sum it all up, I must say that I regret nothing.
We shall meet again. I have believed in God.
A Eichmann
The real strong have no need to prove it to the phonies.
We're not in Wonderland anymore Alice.
C Manson
oldrider
4th January 2016, 13:45
We're not in Wonderland anymore Alice. C Manson
That is really funny - Charles Manson is the "minds eye picture" that automatically forms when I see a husaburg post! :lol: No kidding! - Have no idea what he looks like!
husaberg
4th January 2016, 13:56
That is really funny - Charles Manson is the "minds eye picture" that automatically forms when I see a husaburg post! :lol: No kidding! - Have no idea what he looks like!
Funny that you think of Charles Manson often, disturbing to realise just how often you think of me...........:love:
Funny enough Charles was the only one there quoted not as racist as you are. He was merely a common psychopath.
Of course you, couldn't select any of the other monsters as they all shared you views on race relations.
Katman
4th January 2016, 14:41
Charles Manson is the "minds eye picture" that automatically forms when I see a husaburg post!
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/532b4541e4b078ca803911d1/54ac2678e4b0c2c76cbefa8b/5564571fe4b0924f5e2424d5/1442358073427/?format=2500w
mashman
4th January 2016, 16:05
The quotes become even more interesting when examined alongside some of the things Nick Rockefeller is purported to have said to Aaron Russo.
Maybe they're all just misunderstood and we should get behind their grand plans for us all :D
Katman
4th January 2016, 16:06
Maybe they're all just misunderstood and we should get behind their grand plans for us all :D
I think bogan's already lined up for his microchip.
mashman
4th January 2016, 16:07
That is really funny - Charles Manson is the "minds eye picture" that automatically forms when I see a husaburg post! :lol: No kidding! - Have no idea what he looks like!
More in a Jack Elam style though yeah?
mashman
4th January 2016, 16:09
I think bogan's already lined up for his microchip.
He'll be way down the list though... hope he doesn't get too disappointed. Perhaps he'll download the specs, make his own and insert it into that special place he calls home.
husaberg
4th January 2016, 16:11
Gollum had some grand plans for precious metals.
While a few might recognise him from his Movies
Less is know about Steves retirement to Taupo.
318539
Brian d marge
4th January 2016, 19:41
...................
318476
Hahahaaa saved for future use
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Brian d marge
4th January 2016, 19:42
"Bringing down the tone of the conversation with sexual innuendo"
"Smearing the characters of our opponents"
"Complaining to the moderators"
"Derailing conversations"
FFS KB is loaded with these guys.It must be the site they use to hone their skills!!! :crazy:
That being said if the jobs going where do I sign up....;)
Not guilty as charged m ludd
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Brian d marge
4th January 2016, 19:46
Reporting such poor thread behaviour is just the result, the cause comes before; and as I said, that comes predominantly from cts and bigots resorting to lame ad-hominems.
Werent the hominems the better half of the yahoos in a book by johnathon livingston swift
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husaberg
4th January 2016, 19:51
Not guilty as charged m ludd
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Neither am I, Katman, yokel plus Oldie clearly have no character.
Katman
5th January 2016, 19:32
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/04/middleeast/saudi-arabia-iran-severing-ties-whats-next/
Things are certainly hotting up.
Is the execution of this Shiite cleric a deliberate move to provoke Iran into aggression?
What a handy way of drawing America even further into the Middle East conflict.
oldrider
5th January 2016, 19:41
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/04/middleeast/saudi-arabia-iran-severing-ties-whats-next/
Things are certainly hotting up.
Is the execution of this Shiite cleric a deliberate move to provoke Iran into aggression?
What a handy way of drawing America even further into the Middle East conflict.
United States of Israel at it again - they will have their war with Iran - one way or another! :brick:
Katman
5th January 2016, 19:50
United States of Israel at it again - they will have their war with Iran - one way or another! :brick:
Obscenely rich people will get to make even more money while Israel sits back and lets others do their bidding.
Brian d marge
5th January 2016, 20:05
It gets better at home . . Bearded beer bellies are hiding in the oregon woods with ak 47s in one hand and the constitution in the other shouting god be praised
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Katman
5th January 2016, 20:09
<img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iCD2AzYUTpM/UBR1gszhC8I/AAAAAAABF5w/Lkoh2xfgJQc/s1600/sharon1.jpg"/>
Brian d marge
5th January 2016, 20:18
Ariel my arse he should be called NSU Quickly
Both that excuae for a human and that excuse for bike both are a mountain of human extrement
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husaberg
5th January 2016, 20:48
<img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iCD2AzYUTpM/UBR1gszhC8I/AAAAAAABF5w/Lkoh2xfgJQc/s1600/sharon1.jpg"/>
Citation needed
alleged falsely quote attributed to Ariel Sharon
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that. …I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." – Alleged quote by Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres (October 3, 2001); as reported by Haaretz. CAMERA is a pro-Israeli propaganda organization. Not exactly a credible source to refute the veracity of a comment which places the Israelis in a bad light, The website that claimed he said the Jews run America which in do a lot of major institution in the USA are run by Jewish people.is pro-Hamas propaganda, which is as credible as the Israeli government.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Ariel_Sharon
MISQUOTE:
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as quoted in an op-ed by nationally syndicated columnist Georgie Anne Geyer, allegedly said at an Israeli Cabinet meeting in autumn, 2001and reported by Kol Yisrael radio:
“Don't worry about American pressure, we control America.”
“Don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”
FACT:
These quotes originated with the pro-Hamas American group Islamic Association for Palestine in an Oct. 13, 2001 press release, which claimed its source as Israeli radio Kol Yisrael:
According [to] the Israeli Hebrew radio, Col Yisrael Wednesday, Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and turn the US against us. At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying “ . . . I want to tell you something clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”…
Elsewhere in the press release, the quote was repeated, albeit slightly altered to: “we control America.”
CAMERA received confirmation from Kol Yisrael political correspondent Yoni Ben-Menachem, who reports on Cabinet meetings, that he never made such a broadcast and that Sharon never made such a statement.
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_article=373&x_context=7
Syndicated Columnist Georgie Anne Geyer Uses Fabricated Sharon Quote
Editor’s note: Georgie Anne Geyer’s May 10 column included a quote from Ariel Sharon, 'I control America.’ This quote was widely reported in the Palestinian press but cannot be confirmed in independent sources. Geyer and Universal Press Syndicate regret not having attributed the quote more specifically.
While the syndicate thus admitted that “This quote...cannot be confirmed in independent sources,” it failed to state unambiguously that Sharon never uttered the words and that the alleged quotation first appeared in a press release from the pro-Hamas IAP. Since IAP said that Kol Yisrael was their source and Kol Yisrael denies broadcasting any such report, there should be no question that IAP was attempting to perpetrate a hoax. The syndicate also should have written “alleged quote” whenever referring to the supposed statement by Sharon.
Furthermore, the Editor’s Note implies that the problem was one merely of mistaken attribution – that it would have been acceptable for Geyer to use the bogus quotation had she cited “Palestinian sources.” Obviously, since these sources have been proven false, the quote should not have been published at all
Katman
5th January 2016, 20:55
Ah yes, CAMERA - the pro-Israeli propaganda machine.
husaberg
5th January 2016, 21:00
Ah yes, CAMERA - the pro-Israeli propaganda machi
As a opposed to the source of the Quote HAMMAS
Notice the news story that ran the Quote had to appoligise as the sourse has no basis or evidence to support it other than it originated being run on a Hammas website.:lol:
Go on find a direct deputable corroborated sourse or a tape recording it was allegedly in an interview ...go on, how hard can it be? for a man of your obvious integity:nya:
Katman
5th January 2016, 21:04
As a opposed to the sourse of the Quote HAMMA
According to CAMERA.
husaberg
5th January 2016, 21:10
According to CAMERA.
and wiki Cnn ABC NBC BBC ajezzera yeah Katman don't worry i am sure your conspiracy blogs and white supremacist websites are much more credible
As a opposed to the sourse of the Quote HAMMAS
Notice the news story that ran the Quote had to appoligise as the sourse has no basis or evidence to support it other than it originated being run on a Hammas website.:lol:
Go on find a direct deputable corroborated sourse or a tape recording it was allegedly in an interview ...go on, how hard can it be? for a man of your obvious integity:nya:
So how are you getting on proving that quote is not made up.?
Still stalling or just hoping to change the subject?
Katman
5th January 2016, 21:36
So how are you getting on proving that quote is not made up.?
Still stalling or just hoping to change the subject?
The exchange between Sharon and Peres was allegedly reported by an Israeli radio station.
CAMERA claim that the radio station now says they never said it.
I'm not convinced.
husaberg
5th January 2016, 21:54
The exchange between Sharon and Peres was allegedly reported by an Israeli radio station.
CAMERA claim that the radio station now says they never said it.
I'm not convinced.
As a opposed to the sourse of the Quote HAMMAS
Notice the news story that ran the Quote had to appoligise as the sourse has no basis or evidence to support it other than it originated being run on a Hammas website.:lol:
Go on find a direct deputable corroborated sourse or a tape recording it was allegedly in an interview ...go on, how hard can it be? for a man of your obvious integity:nya:
and wiki Cnn ABC NBC BBC ajezzera yeah Katman don't worry i am sure your conspiracy blogs and white supremacist websites are much more credible
So how are you getting on proving that quote is not made up.?
Still stalling or just hoping to change the subject?
So you have no evidence, no crediable sourses at all, Plus you are still stalling some more in the hope that no one will notice?
Give me the sourse of the quote, Acyual verifiable proof that it was ever said, it was meant to be an interview so there will be recordings surelyif it was ever said
Katman
5th January 2016, 22:01
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p-SszJkjy60
Katman
5th January 2016, 22:05
it was meant to be an interview so there will be recordings surelyif it was ever said
No, it was allegedly a heated exchange between Sharon and Peres in the Israeli Cabinet.
Do you think they were interviewing each other?
husaberg
5th January 2016, 22:08
No, it was allegedly a heated exchange between Sharon and Peres in the Israeli Cabinet.
Do you think they were interviewing each other?
The Israeli radio report where is it? what did the radio station say,DO they coroberate that it ever occured? show me something creditable?
That says it was ever reported by an Israeli radio station ? Again show a crediable source that can be substainated. That it ever occured anywhere ever.
I have asked you what four or five times now..........you have yet to show any evidence.
Are you still stalling? or can it be you can't provide this evidence, as it never actually happened. It is just a piece of HAMMAS propaganda that a sheep like you lap up............
Its astonishingly similar of some other propaganda from the 1930's and 1940's Germany............
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Katman
5th January 2016, 22:33
The Israeli radio report where is it?
Probably hidden so deeply no-one is ever likely to find it.
Did you watch that Press TV video?
Voltaire
6th January 2016, 06:34
K and H: the cutting edge of KB enlightenment, with Y and O their loyal followers.
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oldrider
6th January 2016, 09:16
K and H: the cutting edge of KB enlightenment, with Y and O their loyal followers.
Chortle chortle - (I must spread etc) - is that you looking out? :lol:
yokel
6th January 2016, 10:59
The Israeli radio report where is it? what did the radio station say,DO they coroberate that it ever occured? show me something creditable?
That says it was ever reported by an Israeli radio station ? Again show a crediable source that can be substainated. That it ever occured anywhere ever.
I have asked you what four or five times now..........you have yet to show any evidence.
Are you still stalling? or can it be you can't provide this evidence, as it never actually happened. It is just a piece of HAMMAS propaganda that a sheep like you lap up............
Its astonishingly similar of some other propaganda from the 1930's and 1940's Germany............
Speaking of propaganda, which image is that of a real gas chamber?
Chamber A?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/28/article-0-1B02BCF700000578-850_470x423.jpg
Or chamber B?
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/2005Photos/GasChamberBackWall.jpg
As long as you believe that the holocaust actually happened, anything you have to say is meaningless.
Woodman
6th January 2016, 11:06
Speaking of propaganda, which image is that of a real gas chamber?
Chamber A?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/28/article-0-1B02BCF700000578-850_470x423.jpg
Or chamber B?
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/2005Photos/GasChamberBackWall.jpg
As long as you believe that the holocaust actually happened, anything you have to say is meaningless.
C. All of the above
Brian d marge
6th January 2016, 11:38
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yokel
6th January 2016, 12:04
C. All of the above
If you're a historian that doesn't want to land their asre in jail, then that would definitely be the right answer haha.
Even if the "gas chamber" in image B has rather ordinary wooden door that opens inwards with thousands of dead people piled up behind it.
husaberg
6th January 2016, 15:01
Probably hidden so deeply no-one is ever likely to find it.
Did you watch that Press TV video?
Your video will wait until you can provide evidence to support what you posted as being what someone said otherwise its like all your other crap.
I notice your wording is now allegedly said.
Is that the Katman way of admitting you are posting more made up shit?
So for the fifth time... do you have any creditable evidence to prove it was not just made up by hammas or not?
husaberg
6th January 2016, 15:13
If you're a historian that doesn't want to land their asre in jail, then that would definitely be the right answer haha.
Even if the "gas chamber" in image B has rather ordinary wooden door that opens inwards with thousands of dead people piled up behind it.
Your historian was sentenced and served prison time you dipstick.
He also implied you would have to be retarded to think there was no Nazi gas chambers. He obviously had you in mind when he thought retard............
As for the rest of the other blah blah. You are a retard.
Katman
6th January 2016, 15:29
Your video will wait until you can provide evidence to support what you posted as being what someone said otherwise its like all your other crap.
I notice your wording is now allegedly said.
Is that the Katman way of admitting you are posting more made up shit?
So for the fifth time... do you have any creditable evidence to prove it was not just made up by hammas or not?
The video goes a long way towards corroborating what was 'allegedly' said by Sharon.
In fact, you could almost say it confirms it.
husaberg
6th January 2016, 15:39
The video goes a long way towards corroborating what was 'allegedly' said by Sharon.
In fact, you could almost say it confirms it.
Yet it doesn't its just more uncorroborated conspiracy crap, That fact you think that is evidence suggests, what I already knew, You are of sub average intelligence.
For the seventh time. do you have actual evidence to back up what you posted was not made up Hammas propaganda?
Katman
6th January 2016, 16:36
Yet it doesn't its just more uncorroborated conspiracy crap
How would you know? You haven't watched it.
Woodman
6th January 2016, 16:38
If you're a historian that doesn't want to land their asre in jail, then that would definitely be the right answer haha.
Even if the "gas chamber" in image B has rather ordinary wooden door that opens inwards with thousands of dead people piled up behind it.
Now Yokel....Thousands of people were not gassed in that chamber at the same time because they wouldn't all fit. They would have been gassed in runs of x amount, so saying that they couldn't open the doors because of thousands of bodies piled up is a bit tabloid. Don't you think?
Katman
6th January 2016, 16:43
Now Yokel....Thousands of people were not gassed in that chamber at the same time because they wouldn't all fit. They would have been gassed in runs of x amount, so saying that they couldn't open the doors because of thousands of bodies piled up is a bit tabloid. Don't you think?
Except that you could probably expect a pile of bodies right at the door - if they were desperately trying to get it open.
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