Stupid World [Archive] - Page 24

oldrider

17th June 2015, 12:32

Would there have been any advantage for Germany pushing for Jewish migration to what was a British colony then?
So after the war got under way what happened then oldie?
What was it that Germany chose to do with these people they then deemed to be non citizens.

My point was that if they are going to cleanse their country then where are their rejects going to go!

Germany could not freely ship people to Palestine once the war started because that would have been more difficult. (Rock and a hard place I presume!)

It was you who raised the German comparison in your post - maybe that's why the camps started to fill up!

husaberg

17th June 2015, 12:41

My point was that if they are going to cleanse their country then where are their rejects going to go!

Germany could not freely ship people to Palestine once the war started because that would have been more difficult. (Rock and a hard place I presume!)

It was you who raised the German comparison in your post - maybe that's why the camps started to fill up!

Cleanse is an interesting choice of words Oldie, difficult would be being at war with Russia And the British allies at the same time.
But the logistics can't have been that big of an issue They seemed to be able to organise transport for all those people they did not want anyway.
I raised the rather obvious comparison as it was interesting Mashy would raise their plight as being an issue.

oldrider

17th June 2015, 13:38

Cleanse is an interesting choice of words Oldie, difficult would be being at war with Russia And the British allies at the same time.
But the logistics can't have been that big of an issue They seemed to be able to organise transport for all those people they did not want anyway.
I raised the rather obvious comparison as it was interesting Mashy would raise their plight as being an issue.

Cleaning was the word used in the DR article - the derivative "cleanse" was used to stay on track with that theme. (Ethnic cleansing seems a popular term today)

True about the train loads of refugees displaced and desperate multinational civilian people being moved among the German occupied territories but not by ships at sea!

It makes you wonder how they could have fed all of those people considering the logistics of even feeding their own troops and civilians.

husaberg

17th June 2015, 13:51

It makes you wonder how they could have fed all of those people considering the logistics of even feeding their own troops and civilians.

No it doesn't. As for the feeding they managed to feed themselves and all their people before the war without much issue.
They certainly never bothered to ask the red cross for help or even let them have access to the concentration camps if they were at all concerned.
As fir them being refugees they were not refugees they were taken into cusdudy or displaced by there own countries or by the captors of there own countries
I sincerely doubt that the Nazis considered feeding them as being a long term issue at all did they, or do you think they actually did?
As for the trains the Nazi's probably got outstanding gas millage too.
What you are inferring is a cop out oldie. I know that you do know better than to make any feeble excuses for what occurred.

oldrider

17th June 2015, 13:57

No it doesn't. As for the feeding they managed to feed themselves and all their people before the war without much issue.
They certainly never bothered to ask the red cross for help or even let them have access to the concentration camps if they were at all concerned.
I sincerely doubt that they considered feeding them as being a long term issue at all did they, or do you think they did?
As for the trains the Nazi's probably got outstanding gas millage too.
What you are inferring is a cop out oldie. I know that you do know better than to make any feeble excuses for what occurred.

I was actually thinking of and referring to all those people that followed them (German troops) retreating from the Eastern front!

The Russians (Soviets) were not very considerate especially to any of their own - Stalin was the worst cunt that ever inhabited this earth!

husaberg

17th June 2015, 14:07

I was actually thinking of and referring to all those people that followed them (German troops) retreating from the Eastern front!

The Russians (Soviets) were not very considerate especially to any of their own - Stalin was the worst cunt that ever inhabited this earth!

I am not sure anyone consider Stalin to be much of a wonderful example of humanity.
Nor Russians either, for the treatment the Russians received from the Germans or from there own people or what they dealt out afterwards to who they targeted afterwards as being the same.
It maters not to me what uniform perpetrators of racial hate crimes were wearing, As I doubt it matters to you that the Russians fabricated the protocols of Zion either.
It does still not in anyway mitigate the treatment that the Germans done to a wide range of ethnicities they deemed to be unworthy, now or then does it.

oldrider

17th June 2015, 15:11

I am not sure anyone consider Stalin to be much of a wonderful example of humanity.
Nor Russians either, for the treatment the Russians received from the Germans or from there own people or what they dealt out afterwards to who they targeted afterwards as being the same.
It maters not to me what uniform perpetrators of racial hate crimes were wearing, As I doubt it matters to you that the Russians fabricated the protocols of Zion either.
It does still not in anyway mitigate the treatment that the Germans done to a wide range of ethnicities they deemed to be unworthy, now or then does it.

I did not write the protocols of Zion and I don't know who did - I had a copy given to me (as a teenager) way back in the 1950's - don't know where it went!

I dismissed it at the time but to be honest there is much about life since that makes me wonder if it was not genuine - but moving on and away from that!

Of the leadership of the day (Stalin Churchill Roosevelt Hitler) it's questionable about who was the most honest or worthy among them!

It is difficult in the haze of opinion and fact to mitigate the treatment any of them did to innocent victims of their excesses in their time!

If each of them were to publicly face their accusers today perhaps it would be judged that they were all as bad as each other!

Katman

17th June 2015, 15:26

I did not write the protocols of Zion and I don't know who did - I had a copy given to me (as a teenager) way back in the 1950's - don't know where it went!

I dismissed it at the time but to be honest there is much about life since that makes me wonder if it was not genuine - but moving on and away from that!

Oops, you've gone and done it now.

:shutup:

bogan

17th June 2015, 18:21

Occupy gone sour? 'Bombs' in Hong Kong (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-33152603)

Kind of an odd thing to post mashy what is the actual problem with that?

They didn't put herr mushy in charge? Or is it that the poor are cleansed instead of the rich?

Brian d marge

17th June 2015, 18:31

I disagree - Spain has made some good gains - its not leaving the EU anytime soon. Spain GDP/government debt is now at 93.9% (more or less the same as France) vs Greece 175%. Unemployment in Spain is still high at 23% but it is dropping. By no means are things "great" but they aren´t Greece/EU split-tingly bad.
Thats why there is all this fuss over greece
If it goes and it will
Spain and portugal may follow and that will be a big mess

And they dont want that

Either way what will be will be . . .

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husaberg

17th June 2015, 18:32

They didn't put herr mushy in charge? Or is it that the poor are cleansed instead of the rich?

Nah more the irony of Mashy recognising that is was seemingly unjust..........:thud:

bogan

17th June 2015, 18:34

Nah more the irony of Mashy recognising that is was seemingly unjust..........:thud:

That's what I meant, it is ironic as he finds it unjust based on whose choice it were, and who might be getting cleaned.

husaberg

17th June 2015, 18:37

That's what I meant, it is ironic as he finds it unjust based on whose choice it were, and who might be getting cleaned.

Nah not I. I actually find the greatest irony in the primary reason they decide, I just always assumed Herr Mashman is in favour of de cleansing.........

mashman

17th June 2015, 18:50

Having sex with Akzel is a bit drastic isn't it.:rolleyes:

I blame your coma.

Nah more the irony of Mashy recognising that is was seemingly unjust..........:thud:

Likely for very different reasons than you may think. It's an article. Spend your energy thinking what you choose to think about it instead of what I choose to think about it, else yer really wastin yer time pard.

mashman

17th June 2015, 18:51

They didn't put herr mushy in charge? Or is it that the poor are cleansed instead of the rich?

Things change. It's that people are being cleansed at all. Stupid fuck.

husaberg

17th June 2015, 18:56

Spend your energy thinking what you choose to think about it .
I did I found it rather ironic, so whats in it for the Zionist conspiracy. what's the angle.

Things change. It's that people are being cleansed at all. Stupid fuck.

People are people, really?.......... So is defining and discriminating against people based on race wrong? :msn-wink:

Stupid fuck.
You honestly expected more out of sex with Axel........

Katman

17th June 2015, 19:05

.....potty mouth.

your idiotic theories are boundless you are without a doubt a stupid thick miserable fuck wit and thats stating it as it is you racist cunt

Pot. Kettle. Black.

bogan

17th June 2015, 19:07

Things change. It's that people are being cleansed at all. Stupid fuck.

How ironic :killingme

husaberg

17th June 2015, 19:34

Pot. Kettle. Black.

I never inferred you were a black dopehead silly, just an stupid, thick, miserable, fuck wit and a racist cunt. :tugger:

mashman

17th June 2015, 20:26

I did I found it rather ironic, so whats in it for the Zionist conspiracy. what's the angle.

People are people, really?.......... So is defining and discriminating against people based on race wrong? :msn-wink:

You honestly expected more out of sex with Axel........

Where there fuck did the Zionist bit come from?

It's based on choice, and sometimes re-enforced by background influence. I'd say it was wrong though :bleh:

I'd be covered in less shit ;)

mashman

17th June 2015, 20:28

How ironic :killingme

I fail to see it, but goan, get all tingly.

husaberg

17th June 2015, 20:29

Where there fuck did the Zionist bit come from?

I'd be covered in less shit ;)

I am not buying it where is the Zionist plot to justify the racism...........
The goat shits just a rouge........

mashman

17th June 2015, 20:34

I am not buying it where is the Zionist plot to justify the racism...........
The goat shits just a rouge........

The reports are overrepresented by the communities of colour. You do not believe that that is still an attitude that is held by influential people?
You probably bored him to sleep once he'd had his herring.

husaberg

17th June 2015, 20:37

The reports are overrepresented by the communities of colour. You do not believe that that is still an attitude that is held by influential people?
You probably bored him to sleep once he'd had his herring.

I know you are a Pom but English rather than Dutch please........

jonbuoy

18th June 2015, 03:53

Thats why there is all this fuss over greece
If it goes and it will
Spain and portugal may follow and that will be a big mess

And they dont want that

Either way what will be will be . . .

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Time will tell - I'm not convinced it's not a big game of Chicken - who will flinch first.

mashman

19th June 2015, 08:21

oldrider

19th June 2015, 10:29

Greek PM Tsipras holds IMF 'criminally responsible' for debt crisis (http://europe.newsweek.com/greek-pm-tsipras-holds-imf-criminally-responsible-debt-328802?ref=yfp)

Syriza split looms as left-wing propose 'Icelandic-style default' (http://europe.newsweek.com/syriza-split-looms-left-wing-propose-grexit-icelandic-option-328732)

The problem is a financial one. The solution, isn't... although it may be a while before they figure it out :facepalm:

The banking cartel is only interested in building their own power through debt - if every country in the world is in debt - to whom are they in debt to? - the cartel! :sick:

Ocean1

19th June 2015, 10:36

mashman

19th June 2015, 12:11

The banking cartel is only interested in building their own power through debt - if every country in the world is in debt - to whom are they in debt to? - the cartel! :sick:

I think in this day and age you'd have to be exceptionally ignorant to blame the people for banks making bad loans and socialising the debt. The cabal will fall! :yes:

Brian d marge

19th June 2015, 13:29

Greek PM Tsipras holds IMF 'criminally responsible' for debt crisis (http://europe.newsweek.com/greek-pm-tsipras-holds-imf-criminally-responsible-debt-328802?ref=yfp)

Syriza split looms as left-wing propose 'Icelandic-style default' (http://europe.newsweek.com/syriza-split-looms-left-wing-propose-grexit-icelandic-option-328732)

The problem is a financial one. The solution, isn't... although it may be a while before they figure it out :facepalm:

"Think big " , borrow the money at cheap rates , build a Dam or two , will keep people employed

all will be well

If we get stuck , we could sell it ,,,,

Soo whats the problem ....as long as we follow the IMFs awesum plan ... we will be sweet bro

Stephen

Ps ,,,, Greece is small ....whats the real agenda .... problem reaction solution

mashman

19th June 2015, 14:37

Ps ,,,, Greece is small ....whats the real agenda .... problem reaction solution

Ooooooo, haven't worn my tin foil hat in a while... but since you ask: they're looking for a Messiah to save them as "they" realise that they're all butt fucked.

husaberg

19th June 2015, 15:09

http://www.cowanauctions.com/itemImages/H4781.jpg

Brian d marge

19th June 2015, 16:56

Ooooooo, haven't worn my tin foil hat in a while... but since you ask: they're looking for a Messiah to save them as "they" realise that they're all butt fucked.
We could go down the one world path

And the rise of the cashless society

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mashman

19th June 2015, 17:35

We could go down the one world path

And the rise of the cashless society

lol... that sounds like a really cool idea.

bogan

19th June 2015, 17:43

We could go down the one world path

Bit beige, I think personal choice moar betterer.

husaberg

19th June 2015, 18:30

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pbX7uZF0--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/186t1j8dzz8sgjpg.jpg

bogan

19th June 2015, 18:48

http://reality-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Alien-Money-382.jpg

Brian d marge

19th June 2015, 18:54

lol... that sounds like a really cool idea.
Becareful what you wishfor young grasshopper

It may be digital

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husaberg

19th June 2015, 19:06

http://joshuaspodek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Snake-Oil-Ad.jpg

mashman

19th June 2015, 20:03

Bit beige, I think personal choice moar betterer.

I think that's what he may well have meant. Evidence: My personal choice would be one world... and all of my responsible personal choices that follow, such as being productive for the wider good instead of to and for someone's pocket, being responsible for my consumption, being respectful of as many human beings as far as is possible :bleh: and all of that positive lovely stuff. You're right though, that doesn't sound beige :wari:... but I thought that's what he meant.

mashman

19th June 2015, 20:04

Becareful what you wishfor young grasshopper

It may be digital

lol... My heart is set on the financially free version. Much nicer place to live.

Digital communism ;).

bogan

19th June 2015, 20:06

I think that's what he may well have meant. Evidence: My personal choice would be one world... and all of my responsible personal choices that follow, such as being productive for the wider good instead of to and for someone's pocket, being responsible for my consumption, being respectful of as many human beings as far as is possible :bleh: and all of that positive lovely stuff. You're right though, that doesn't sound beige :wari:... but I thought that's what he meant.

Yeh, but your personal choice of beigifying one world doesn't maximise other's personal choices (who may not like the color beige). Which is what I meant; it remains not all about you. You can do your thing, and I can do mine, and others can do theirs; sorry, I guess you can't do your thing because it is...

https://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/snake-oil-bottle-cropped-label.jpg

mashman

19th June 2015, 20:36

Yeh, but your personal choice of beigifying one world doesn't maximise other's personal choices (who may not like the color beige). Which is what I meant; it remains not all about you. You can do your thing, and I can do mine, and others can do theirs; sorry, I guess you can't do your thing because it is...

If all you can see is beige. Then that's all YOU can see. As for the rest, stupid fuck.

puddytat

19th June 2015, 20:39

You snake oil posters are so yesterday with your cures, its medical marijuana now.

Get with the programme willya....out with the old & in with the new.

bogan

19th June 2015, 20:44

If all you can see is beige. Then that's all YOU can see. As for the rest, stupid fuck.

I can see plenty more than beige now, because nobody has dictated a unified one world of beigery, we all do as we do, freedom, murica.

https://trucknutsphenomenon2.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/01dodgeballs1.jpg

You seem to see our world as one color now, but imagine more colors for another. Stupid worlder.

mashman

19th June 2015, 20:50

You seem

Everything after that was stupid fuck.

husaberg

19th June 2015, 20:53

http://cdn.discogs.com/ccPOmYk-6ypnGK8koEkbZv2yyA4=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb()/discogs-images/R-605518-1197193475.jpeg.jpg

bogan

20th June 2015, 09:31

Everything after that was stupid fuck.

Guess after last time you've gone off the whole idea of shared understanding :laugh: Stupid worlder. You guys make an excellent case for eugenics tbh.

Ocean1

20th June 2015, 09:37

Guess after last time you've gone off the whole idea of shared understanding :laugh: Stupid worlder. You guys make an excellent case for eugenics tbh.

Ah leave 'em alone, mate Darwin will deal with them in good time.

mashman

20th June 2015, 11:20

Guess after last time you've gone off the whole idea of shared understanding :laugh: Stupid worlder. You guys make an excellent case for eugenics tbh.

Yet more false reasoning :facepalm:... and onto eugenics because of your false reasoning. You ignorant stupid fuck.

mashman

20th June 2015, 11:20

Ah leave 'em alone, mate Darwin will deal with them in good time.

Already has... we're evolving :wari:

bogan

20th June 2015, 14:57

Yet more false reasoning :facepalm:... and onto eugenics because of your false reasoning. You ignorant stupid fuck.

It's is demonstrably not false, ie, if you had any interest in shared understanding you would demonstrate it.

Katman

20th June 2015, 15:03

It's is demonstrably not false, ie, if you had any interest in shared understanding you would demonstrate it.

If you had any interest in shared understanding you'd start understanding.

bogan

20th June 2015, 15:12

If you had any interest in shared understanding you'd start understanding.

I have. That is why there is refusal to share, because it would just be confirmation and make it even more illogical to call me a stupid fuck.

Katman

20th June 2015, 15:26

call me a stupid fuck.

Ok.

Stupid fuck.

husaberg

20th June 2015, 16:26

http://a.u1sf.com/j/3092753/b36785475bf.jpg

mashman

21st June 2015, 10:10

Brian d marge

22nd June 2015, 02:31

Which side is he on? Blair speaks at Putin's 'vanity summit' A DAY after Ukraine job offer (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/585587/Tony-Blair-attends-Vladimir-Putin-vanity-summit-after-job-offer-from-Ukraine-government?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-uk-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+UK+Feed%29&ref=yfp)

"The former British Prime Minister attended the St Petersburg Economic Forum yesterday where he advised business people on improving efficiency."

(bonus: "The 62-year-old has to have British police officers following him around the world for security reasons. " - :killingme.)

Cherie Blair's health business goes spectacularly wrong as company goes bust (https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/cherie-blairs-health-business-goes-193836257.html)

but, but, but, her husband has just addressed an economic forum. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa

As long as he keeps the secret hand shake and helping Israel , he will be fine !

The reason he needs security is because half the world want to lynch him for war crimes ...

Here is a simple test ... One of these T Blair will find spankthemonekyable Those pants will be down his by his ankles and the shuffle to the toilet will begin

the other is what a normal average Joe finds amusing .....

312964312963

Note remind me not to buy this months Playboy .....yiick

Stephen

mashman

22nd June 2015, 08:13

The reason he needs security is because half the world want to lynch him for war crimes ...

True, although you'd think the british tax payer would have provided someone decent for that job :shifty:

oldrider

22nd June 2015, 10:41

If the Ukraine really want help over their conflict with Russia - they should stop listening to the United States and tell them to fuck off! :kick:

mashman

22nd June 2015, 11:43

If the Ukraine really want help over their conflict with Russia - they should stop listening to the United States and tell them to fuck off! :kick:

Awesome solution! Why u not PM?

Brian d marge

25th June 2015, 13:26

Iran

Lets hope he wasnt a Rothschild ...........

Snip: Authorities put Mahafarid Amir Khosravi, also known as Amir Mansour Aria, to death at Evin prison, just north of the capital, Tehran, the station reported. The report said the execution came after Iran’s Supreme Court upheld his death sentence.

I mean...... The Tsar , just walked out of a meeting and looked what happened ...................

meanwhile , Queenie ...nails her colours to the mast ;
The UK monarch, who was at a state banquet in Berlin as part of a four-day visit to Germany, said that "division in Europe is dangerous".
Her speech was made in the presence of German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Prime Minister David Cameron, who wants to reform the UK's EU membership.

Brian d marge

25th June 2015, 23:12

Bye bye the american dollar

You been hung out to dry me thinks

http://www.imf.org/external/np/sec/pr/2015/pr15273.htm

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husaberg

25th June 2015, 23:37

Brian d marge

26th June 2015, 00:25

They killed him again?
Because they killed him last year as well.
Hey im a slow reader

But yes they killed him again

I heard silver bullets work for the undead

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mashman

26th June 2015, 08:36

Government shake-up for rail plans (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/rail-revamp-plans-disarray-114918666.html#vGGlMsd)... sounds oh so familiar.

husaberg

26th June 2015, 09:00

Hey im a slow reader

But yes they killed him again

I heard silver bullets work for the undead

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lolololololololol

Ocean1

26th June 2015, 13:32

Government shake-up for rail plans (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/rail-revamp-plans-disarray-114918666.html#vGGlMsd)... sounds oh so familiar.

Governments choosing the lowest bidder and then acting all shocked and mortified when it goes custard? Aye, very familiar.

If you want to know who knows their shit from amongst competing quotes just look for the highest cost, it's almost always the most accurate.

mashman

26th June 2015, 14:37

Governments choosing the lowest bidder and then acting all shocked and mortified when it goes custard? Aye, very familiar.

If you want to know who knows their shit from amongst competing quotes just look for the highest cost, it's almost always the most accurate.

More the trainset thing going into private hands only to be reigned in coz their business is fuckin useless.

That's quite possibly one of the most stupid things you've ever said. I'm impressed that you're plumbing new lows, but FFS that's just stupid fuck... something I expect from bogan.

Ocean1

26th June 2015, 18:56

That's quite possibly one of the most stupid things you've ever said. I'm impressed that you're plumbing new lows, but FFS that's just stupid fuck... something I expect from bogan.

Only someone with minimal experience in the tender/quote process would consider that observation inaccurate. Only a fuckwit with no financial clues whatsoever would venture to call it stupid.

mashman

26th June 2015, 20:22

Only someone with minimal experience in the tender/quote process would consider that observation inaccurate. Only a fuckwit with no financial clues whatsoever would venture to call it stupid.

Where did I say it was inaccurate? See, before quote comes due diligence. Relying on price as your almost always starter for 10 is stupid fuck.

bogan

26th June 2015, 20:29

but FFS that's just stupid fuck... something I expect from bogan.

not that you'd pass judgement or give insult of course :whistle:

Ocean1

26th June 2015, 20:31

Where did I say it was inaccurate? See, before quote comes due diligence. Relying on price as your almost always starter for 10 is stupid fuck.

Where did I say highest price was always the best option?

I said it was usually the most accurate, and since you agree it's a bit fucking stupid to be calling it stupid, innit?

Fuckwit.

bogan

26th June 2015, 20:32

mashman

26th June 2015, 20:34

not that you'd pass judgement or give insult of course :whistle:

I doubt he felt any injury.

bogan

26th June 2015, 20:35

I doubt he felt any injury.

It's the intent though init. Obviously you're an impotent fuckwit who couldn't injure any of us; it's just funny to see your hypocrisy in the attempts.

Ocean1

26th June 2015, 20:37

Not nearly enough spittle in here for quality entertainment...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/69733931/inequality-in-nz-hasnt-risen-in-20-years-treasury-paper-says

mashman

26th June 2015, 20:37

Where did I say highest price was always the best option?

I said it was usually the most accurate, and since you agree it's a bit fucking stupid to be calling it stupid, innit?

Fuckwit.

I said almost always weasel.

I know, I quoted as such. I did not say I agreed with you, either. Look, if you're that angry that you can't read a post, may I suggest focusing on your breathing. Perhaps ask someone to rub your tummy in that special place.

ASSumption making silly old fart.

mashman

26th June 2015, 20:42

It's the intent though init. Obviously you're an impotent fuckwit who couldn't injure any of us; it's just funny to see your hypocrisy in the attempts.

bwaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. You have no clue what my intent was, is or will be in the future... when you stop pretending that you do, oh who the fuck am I kidding... such stupid fuckery. The hypocrisy is breath taking innit, well, when looking at things through such a negative looking glass. do-be-do-be-do

bogan

26th June 2015, 20:43

Not nearly enough spittle in here for quality entertainment...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/69733931/inequality-in-nz-hasnt-risen-in-20-years-treasury-paper-says

Gets better too if you don't use the financial metric the stupid worlders are so caught up on (ironically) too.

"The most striking finding in the latest Treasury work is that inequality in consumption is lower than it was before the reforms of the 1980s. While salary-based measures of income inequality have not declined as dramatically, a lot of work ignore the fact that the tax and transfer system already works to equalise incomes," Crampton said.

mashman

26th June 2015, 20:44

bogan

26th June 2015, 20:44

bwaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. You have no clue what my intent was, is or will be in the future... when you stop pretending that you do, oh who the fuck am I kidding... such stupid fuckery. The hypocrisy is breath taking innit, well, when looking at things through such a negative looking glass. do-be-do-be-do

And that folks, is the mark of a driveling idiot who has no idea how to effectively communicate. Didn't take long at all to bring that out :laugh: (obviously it is also the reason for your impotence)

mashman

26th June 2015, 20:48

And that folks, is the mark of a driveling idiot who has no idea how to effectively communicate. Didn't take long at all to bring that out :laugh: (obviously it is also the reason for your impotence)

Really? The penis? You've got nothing else other than, "I don't understand what the fuck he's talking about and I know he's right, but I'll go for him not communicating effectively over my own ASSumptions of what I think he actually meant... then I'll throw in a penis gag and run away feeling awesome.". Well, whatever floats your boat babes.

Ocean1

26th June 2015, 20:49

Yet in 20 years it hasn't been eradicated :rolleyes:. Fail!

That's 'cause all them poor people have failed to produce shit equal in value to anyone else's.

When they do you'll get income equity, and not until.

I'm not holding my breath.

mashman

26th June 2015, 20:55

That's 'cause all them poor people have failed to produce shit equal in value to anyone else's.

When they do you'll get income equity, and not until.

I'm not holding my breath.

They may well be a revolving workforce, buts that's what ya needs when the pickins is slim coz no cunt wants to pay for what the market deems a useless job.

They don't need to for there to be equity.

Neither am I. There's simply aren't enough consumers.

bogan

26th June 2015, 21:02

Really? The penis? You've got nothing else other than, "I don't understand what the fuck he's talking about and I know he's right, but I'll go for him not communicating effectively over my own ASSumptions of what I think he actually meant... then I'll throw in a penis gag and run away feeling awesome.". Well, whatever floats your boat babes.

No, it's because you've got nothing else other than relying on the creation of misunderstandings simply so you can insult others.

The great irony with your post is your (perhaps deliberate) misASSumption about a penis gag and subsequent attempt to insult me based on that 'misunderstanding'. The word impotent was used because you are unable to take effective action (the exact context in which I has earlier been using, and the 1st definition in oxford) due to your inability to communicate; it is obvious to anyone with the basic grasp on language that is what I meant due to the earlier context supplied.
But no doubt you'll have some cop-out prepared to avoid the shock horror of ever admitting a mistake :facepalm:

mashman

26th June 2015, 21:06

No, it's because you've got nothing else other than relying on the creation of misunderstandings simply so you can insult others.

The great irony with your post is your (perhaps deliberate) misASSumption about a penis gag and subsequent attempt to insult me based on that 'misunderstanding'. The word impotent was used because you are unable to take effective action (the exact context in which I has earlier been using, and the 1st definition in oxford) due to your inability to communicate; it is obvious to anyone with the basic grasp on language that is what I meant due to the earlier context supplied.
But no doubt you'll have some cop-out prepared to avoid the shock horror of ever admitting a mistake :facepalm:

I am not responsible for your assumptions.

:facepalm:

bogan

26th June 2015, 21:07

I am not responsible for your assumptions.

:facepalm:

Weak, so fucking weak. And you are responsible for your own ability to communicate your ideas.

mashman

26th June 2015, 21:08

Weak, so fucking weak. And you are responsible for your own ability to communicate you ideas.

I am responsible for my ability to communicate... I'm not responsible for your understanding.

bogan

26th June 2015, 21:11

I am responsible for my ability to communicate... I'm not responsible for your understanding.

Understanding is part of the ability to communicate; so whose ability was shown to be shit when you decided my use of the word impotence was sexual despite it being otherwise explained to be the primary definition earlier on?

mashman

26th June 2015, 21:17

Understanding is part of the ability to communicate; so whose ability was shown to be shit when you decided my use of the word impotence was sexual despite it being otherwise explained to be the primary definition earlier on?

Your derision is amusing, because it bares no correlation to my actual reality. See, I know what I mean and how I mean it. You just stupid fuck who thinks he knows better. I care not how you used the word in the first place as it was irrelevant other than for my amusement, and I thought yours too but alas, it was not to be.

bogan

26th June 2015, 21:22

Your derision is amusing, because it bares no correlation to my actual reality. See, I know what I mean and how I mean it. You just stupid fuck who thinks he knows better. I care not how you used the word in the first place as it was irrelevant other than for my amusement, and I thought yours too but alas, it was not to be.

Fuck it's getting weaker. Anyone can see you misinterpreted what I wrote and made banal insults based on that. Quit with the politician's approach and grow a spine.

mashman

26th June 2015, 21:33

Fuck it's getting weaker. Anyone can see you misinterpreted what I wrote and made banal insults based on that. Quit with the politician's approach and grow a spine.

Yes, anyone can choose to see that. Maybe you need a tummy rub too. :killingme@politician and get me a whaaaaaaaabulance. You've been right all along, I apologise for being so awkward about it, but my special condition compels me to act in such a way... also, I do have impotence. It was a freudian slip. The guys at the clinic reckon it's related to my anger issues and multiple personalities disorder, but all in all, life's great. Thank you for helping me see the light so clearly... how I wish I were as enlightened as yourself as perhaps then, I could grow a spine too. Go fish!

husaberg

26th June 2015, 21:57

Yes, anyone can choose to see that. Maybe you need a tummy rub too. :killingme@politician and get me a whaaaaaaaabulance. You've been right all along, I apologise for being so awkward about it, but my special condition compels me to act in such a way... also, I do have impotence. It was a freudian slip. The guys at the clinic reckon it's related to my anger issues and multiple personalities disorder, but all in all, life's great. Thank you for helping me see the light so clearly... how I wish I were as enlightened as yourself as perhaps then, I could grow a spine too. Go fish!

OK Can't decide between sarcasm or opportunistic Aboulomania...........;)

bogan

26th June 2015, 22:02

You've been right all along, I apologise for being so awkward about it, but my special condition compels me to act in such a way...

Just learn to own your mistakes and from each experience you will learn.

mashman

26th June 2015, 22:04

OK Can't decide between sarcasm or opportunistic Aboulomania...........;)

Limiting yourself to only 2 options :shifty:

mashman

26th June 2015, 22:05

Just learn to own your mistakes and from each experience you will learn.

Stupid fuck....

husaberg

26th June 2015, 22:37

Limiting yourself to only 2 options :shifty:

Yeah but both encompass multiple personalities............:bleh:

mashman

26th June 2015, 22:49

Yeah but both encompass multiple personalities............:bleh:

Cannot spread apparently.

husaberg

26th June 2015, 23:12

Cannot spread apparently.

Just log in as Azkle his password is goatduffa2000

mashman

27th June 2015, 07:54

Just log in as Azkle his password is goatduffa2000

Steady fucker. You'll get your red when you get it and not a moment sooner, so I'll not be borrowing someone else's account tyvm.

husaberg

27th June 2015, 09:56

Steady fucker. You'll get your red when you get it and not a moment sooner, so I'll not be borrowing someone else's account tyvm.

Thank you very much................

mashman

27th June 2015, 18:45

Pope talking 'drivel' on the role of markets, says NZ Initiative head (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-talking-drivel-role-markets-005300284.html)

Brian d marge

27th June 2015, 22:20

Not nearly enough spittle in here for quality entertainment...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/69733931/inequality-in-nz-hasnt-risen-in-20-years-treasury-paper-says

That report is , basically true ....

the speed at which non-conservative reforms were rushed through( ..yes Mr president , Ill jump , how high do you want me to Jump Mr president ! sir ) the speed at which those reforms were rushed through caused the spike in the Gini , and the continuance of the status quo ,,,keeps the Gini steady...

All we need to do it look at the historical Gini trend line , and the date of the Glass stegal removal(s) and bingo theres your answer

The article was written by the business round table , for the business round table and for men in white vans who still believe in the American dream .......( deluded never had it so goods )

http://www.chartbookofeconomicinequality.com/inequality-by-country/new-zealand/

25.8 in 1982 ...........

Just sayin thats all

Stephen

ps.....
Second, the small number of countries that exhibit signifi cant increases in inequality followed
broadly similar economic and social policies, with labour market deregulation perhaps being the most
important.
The increases in inequality for the Anglo-Saxon ‘neoliberal four’ are striking for the dramatic
and historical change that they represent

from here; http://www.un.org/esa/desa/papers/2005/wp6_2005.pdf ( your actual UN report type thing )

Brian d marge

27th June 2015, 23:38

I am responsible for my ability to communicate... I'm not responsible for your understanding.
Thats my line . . . .get ur own

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mashman

28th June 2015, 08:50

That report is , basically true ....

the speed at which non-conservative reforms were rushed through( ..yes Mr president , Ill jump , how high do you want me to Jump Mr president ! sir ) the speed at which those reforms were rushed through caused the spike in the Gini , and the continuance of the status quo ,,,keeps the Gini steady...

All we need to do it look at the historical Gini trend line , and the date of the Glass stegal removal(s) and bingo theres your answer

The article was written by the business round table , for the business round table and for men in white vans who still believe in the American dream .......( deluded never had it so goods )

http://www.chartbookofeconomicinequality.com/inequality-by-country/new-zealand/

25.8 in 1982 ...........

Just sayin thats all

Stephen

ps.....
Second, the small number of countries that exhibit signifi cant increases in inequality followed
broadly similar economic and social policies, with labour market deregulation perhaps being the most
important.
The increases in inequality for the Anglo-Saxon ‘neoliberal four’ are striking for the dramatic
and historical change that they represent

from here; http://www.un.org/esa/desa/papers/2005/wp6_2005.pdf ( your actual UN report type thing )

The need to waste such huge resources on the need to calculate a number to measure how we're doing is kind of sad really.

Thats my line . . . .get ur own

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Well someone's been handing it out like swedgers for some unknown reason :shifty:

Ocean1

28th June 2015, 09:42

That report is , basically true ....

the speed at which non-conservative reforms were rushed through( ..yes Mr president , Ill jump , how high do you want me to Jump Mr president ! sir ) the speed at which those reforms were rushed through caused the spike in the Gini , and the continuance of the status quo ,,,keeps the Gini steady...

All we need to do it look at the historical Gini trend line , and the date of the Glass stegal removal(s) and bingo theres your answer

The article was written by the business round table , for the business round table and for men in white vans who still believe in the American dream .......( deluded never had it so goods )

http://www.chartbookofeconomicinequality.com/inequality-by-country/new-zealand/

25.8 in 1982 ...........

Just sayin thats all

Stephen

ps.....
Second, the small number of countries that exhibit signifi cant increases in inequality followed
broadly similar economic and social policies, with labour market deregulation perhaps being the most
important.
The increases in inequality for the Anglo-Saxon ‘neoliberal four’ are striking for the dramatic
and historical change that they represent

from here; http://www.un.org/esa/desa/papers/2005/wp6_2005.pdf ( your actual UN report type thing )

It's not a bogyman document, it's a treasury report. And I see you can still agree that it's true but then go right ahead and disagree with it anyway. :facepalm:

As for your reference, the use of "households below 60% median income" is a "bullshit in" unit, invented by socialist entities like the UN in a tragic attempt to manipulate public opinion. You could double the income of every household in the country and not change that unit a jot. Note that the rest of the data presented there agrees exactly with the report I posted.

So your anti "neoliberal policy" rant is well off the mark. Again.

Brian d marge

28th June 2015, 10:03

It's not a bogyman document, it's a treasury report. And I see you can still agree that it's true but then go right ahead and disagree with it anyway. :facepalm:

As for your reference, the use of "households below 60% median income" is a "bullshit in" unit, invented by socialist entities like the UN in a tragic attempt to manipulate public opinion. You could double the income of every household in the country and not change that unit a jot. Note that the rest of the data presented there agrees exactly with the report I posted.

So your anti "neoliberal policy" rant is well off the mark. Again.
Thank god
The equilibrium is still maintained

I was getting worried but no

One question is your van gasoline or diesel

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oldrider

28th June 2015, 10:29

Pope talking 'drivel' on the role of markets, says NZ Initiative head (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-talking-drivel-role-markets-005300284.html)

Is this just the beginning? - watch as MSM etc continue to escalate their attacks on the Pope by increasingly ridiculing his statements etc.

The Vatican may well have been infiltrated at the time Pope John (Roncalli) was "appointed?" http://www.opusdeialert.com/roncaliamason.htm

Real election of Pope thwarted?: http://www.theimmaculateheart.com/gregoryXVII.htm

Little by little they intend to undermine his authority among Christians while they build an onslaught of anti-Christian propaganda especially focused on America!

Is Obama's current war on Russia more about the destruction of the Russian orthodox church? - something the Bolshevik's failed to complete with their revolution? :shifty:

Watch this space to define events over time against reality on this subject - I.E. time will tell! :yes:

mashman

28th June 2015, 21:21

Is this just the beginning? - watch as MSM etc continue to escalate their attacks on the Pope by increasingly ridiculing his statements etc.

The Vatican may well have been infiltrated at the time Pope John (Roncalli) was "appointed?" http://www.opusdeialert.com/roncaliamason.htm

Real election of Pope thwarted?: http://www.theimmaculateheart.com/gregoryXVII.htm

Little by little they intend to undermine his authority among Christians while they build an onslaught of anti-Christian propaganda especially focused on America!

Is Obama's current war on Russia more about the destruction of the Russian orthodox church? - something the Bolshevik's failed to complete with their revolution? :shifty:

Watch this space to define events over time against reality on this subject - I.E. time will tell! :yes:

Any group is a threat... hence the "need" to break the unions, make assembly unlawful without license, disband the power of govt etc... it's business apparently. So yeah, I agree that we're going to see all sort of "groups" legislated out of existence, because there really is no other direction to take. To be fair though, it's nice to see that they're taking the long way around :shifty:.

Brian d marge

28th June 2015, 23:14

Mean while in goldman slacks

Dodgy dealing done dirt cheap

http://m.risk.net/risk-magazine/feature/1498135/revealed-goldman-sachs-mega-deal-greece

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mashman

29th June 2015, 08:10

Mean while in goldman slacks

Dodgy dealing done dirt cheap

http://m.risk.net/risk-magazine/feature/1498135/revealed-goldman-sachs-mega-deal-greece

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So, lying and fudging the data so that it makes the stats look good is kosha? I guess it's better to look at these sorts of things from an optimistic standpoint... merely ignore the lies and the fudged stats and pretend that all is well because the report says so :killingme. Reports, letting people fool themselves since ages ago.

yokel

29th June 2015, 08:30

So, lying and fudging the data so that it makes the stats look good is kosha? I guess it's better to look at these sorts of things from an optimistic standpoint... merely ignore the lies and the fudged stats and pretend that all is well because the report says so :killingme. Reports, letting people fool themselves since ages ago.

I wonder what the Greeks answer to 'the Jewish question' will be?

mashman

29th June 2015, 10:32

I wonder what the Greeks answer to 'the Jewish question' will be?

‘We don’t need EU permission’: Greek parliament ratifies bailout referendum (http://rt.com/news/270187-greece-parliament-debt-referendum/)... fuck off seems to be still on the table.

Brian d marge

29th June 2015, 13:45

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33305019

This is what to expect ,

Wonder whats going to happen in September ........??

Stephen

mashman

29th June 2015, 13:55

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33305019

This is what to expect ,

Wonder whats going to happen in September ........??

Stephen

Capital controls = proof that the money you claim to have and claim to own is not actually yours by any stretch of the imagination. It also proves that you can fool most of the people all of the time, and that the ones who claim that they're really intelligent and know what's what and where money comes from and who owns it etc... really haven't got a clue :killingme :crybaby: :killingme suckas the lot!

puddytat

30th June 2015, 12:17

313222............................

mashman

30th June 2015, 14:34

Israeli military escorts Gaza-bound aid flotilla flagship to port of Ashdod (http://rt.com/news/270523-gaza-flotilla-escorted-ashdod/)

husaberg

30th June 2015, 15:05

Israeli military escorts Gaza-bound aid flotilla flagship to port of Ashdod (http://rt.com/news/270523-gaza-flotilla-escorted-ashdod/)

Note it constantly refers to the people "as activists" not aid workers.
is there not a road from Egypt into the Gazza strip that "the aid" and activists can go in though.

oldrider

30th June 2015, 15:46

Is this just the beginning? - watch as MSM etc continue to escalate their attacks on the Pope by increasingly ridiculing his statements etc.

The Vatican may well have been infiltrated at the time Pope John (Roncalli) was "appointed?" http://www.opusdeialert.com/roncaliamason.htm

Real election of Pope thwarted?: http://www.theimmaculateheart.com/gregoryXVII.htm

Little by little they intend to undermine his authority among Christians while they build an onslaught of anti-Christian propaganda especially focused on America!

Is Obama's current war on Russia more about the destruction of the Russian orthodox church? - something the Bolshevik's failed to complete with their revolution? :shifty:

Watch this space to define events over time against reality on this subject - I.E. time will tell! :yes:

Islam lining up the ducks!

Why Western Judaic-Christian-Zionism (USA etc) will ultimately wage war on Russia China and/or Iran: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ate1fVVwg4

husaberg

30th June 2015, 16:21

Islam lining up the ducks!

Why Western Judaic-Christian-Zionism (USA etc) will ultimately wage war on Russia China and/or Iran: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ate1fVVwg4

how could they?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/145464/its-official-all-muslim-leaders-are-actually-jews-daniel-greenfield

:laugh:

mashman

1st July 2015, 10:23

oldrider

1st July 2015, 12:44

IMF: austerity measures would still leave Greece with unsustainable debt (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/30/greek-debt-troika-analysis-says-significant-concessions-still-needed)... :killingme, no fuckin shit!

Centuries before the IMF Greece was - long after the IMF Greece will still be! - Give the IMF back exactly what it has contributed = nothing! :corn:

IMF creates an IOU from nothing and charges interest for the recognition of the debt - meanwhile bankrupting Greece by bleeding her dry! :doh:

Greece should just tell the IMF to fuck off :kick: and take their IOU with them! :yes:

Brian d marge

1st July 2015, 15:29

A warning from history ,,hahahahahahahaa

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Good old Aunty

Stephen

Brian d marge

1st July 2015, 17:53

The question is why is the kiwi dollar falling
They are blaming greece

But i suspect the price of our primary products is falling

Any ideas

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Akzle

1st July 2015, 17:56

IMF: austerity measures would still leave Greece with unsustainable debt (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/30/greek-debt-troika-analysis-says-significant-concessions-still-needed)... :killingme, no fuckin shit!

but, but but. what do you MEAN, sir, that there isn't an economic solution to an economic problem??!

Akzle

1st July 2015, 17:59

The question is why is the kiwi dollar falling
They are blaming greece

But i suspect the price of our primary products is falling

Any ideas

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'murcan's (hoo rah) pay $4 for a gallon of milk.... and tip half of it down the sink.

down in kueewuee lund, we pay about that for half as much.

take into account the exchange rate, the gdp, the imf and the fucken jews... and

http://www.keepcalmstudio.com/_gallery/300/kcs_543a83ab.png

bogan

1st July 2015, 18:16

'murcan's (hoo rah) pay $4 for a gallon of milk.... and tip half of it down the sink.

down in kueewuee lund, we pay about that for half as much.

take into account the exchange rate, the gdp, the imf and the fucken jews... and

Perhaps you should take GST into account as well...

1.56NZD/L in US, or 1.70NZD/L in NZ, you capable to taking it from here to compare the ex GST numbers? :innocent:

Brian d marge

1st July 2015, 18:19

Nail on the head in 3. 2. 1

https://youtu.be/cTWi5GefKYc

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mashman

1st July 2015, 18:51

Centuries before the IMF Greece was - long after the IMF Greece will still be! - Give the IMF back exactly what it has contributed = nothing! :corn:

IMF creates an IOU from nothing and charges interest for the recognition of the debt - meanwhile bankrupting Greece by bleeding her dry! :doh:

Greece should just tell the IMF to fuck off :kick: and take their IOU with them! :yes:

They should. Not looking good for Puerto Rico either. (Down and out in San Juan as Puerto Rico debt disaster looms Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article25818208.html#storylink=cpy).

The question is why... better version ;)...

... the fuck are we persisting with a mechanism that allows a single entity to fuck over an entire nation of people for no reason other than the mechanism exists?

but, but but. what do you MEAN, sir, that there isn't an economic solution to an economic problem??!

Fortunately there is... fortunately not using any kind of financial economic model and therefore not bound by the limits of finance.

Brian d marge

1st July 2015, 19:05

They should. Not looking good for Puerto Rico either. (Down and out in San Juan as Puerto Rico debt disaster looms Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article25818208.html#storylink=cpy).

... the fuck are we persisting with a mechanism that allows a single entity to fuck over an entire nation of people for no reason other than the mechanism exists?

Fortunately there is... fortunately not using any kind of financial economic model and therefore not bound by the limits of finance.
At the moment they are just sayin

One thing is for sure they all know something we dont

Was just reading donkeys comments a few months ago about greece

Almost like he already knew the outcome

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bogan

1st July 2015, 19:06

Fortunately there is... fortunately not using any kind of financial economic model and therefore not bound by the limits of finance.

Fortunately there are no barriers to that except that which you put up yourself.

mashman

1st July 2015, 19:26

Fortunately there are no barriers to that except that which you put up yourself.

:killingme..................

mashman

1st July 2015, 19:30

At the moment they are just sayin

One thing is for sure they all know something we dont

Was just reading donkeys comments a few months ago about greece

Almost like he already knew the outcome

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I guess it's whether they allow it or not.

Ocean1

1st July 2015, 19:38

Fortunately there are no barriers to that except that which you put up yourself.

Yeahbut, he's an idiot. And, a): it don't take much of a barrier to stop a drivelling idiot, and b): drivelling idiots are the world's biggest barrier to achieving anything.

A sort of positive feedback on steroids. Spittle for Africa.

Akzle

1st July 2015, 20:15

Fortunately there is... fortunately not using any kind of financial economic model and therefore not bound by the limits of finance.

you know what i meant.

Can we start burning things yet?

Akzle

1st July 2015, 20:28

Yeahbut, he's an idiot. And, a): it don't take much of a barrier to stop a drivelling idiot, and b): drivelling idiots are the world's biggest barrier to achieving anything.

A sort of positive feedback on steroids. Spittle for Africa.

poor, old, white guy.

bogan

1st July 2015, 20:30

Brian d marge

1st July 2015, 21:09

you know what i meant.

Can we start burning things yet?
Sadly

As much as I would like to go a burnin and a slashin

Doin fk all is the best way . . .in a skinny indian lawyer kinda way

But if that fails thena burning and a slashin raping and a pillaging
In a blazing saddles kinda way will need to happen

https://youtu.be/2_urvjCXg6c

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mashman

1st July 2015, 21:24

you know what i meant.

Can we start burning things yet?

heh... never underestimate the power of repetition, it is a weapon used by those of the scared blind old white muthafucka crowd that is actually useful. Maybe not to day, maybe not tomorrow, but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4HXNESjlJ4

;)

Tempting, but there's still a way.

poor, old, white guy.

Forgive them for they know not what they do... or some such shit.

This maybe true, it is just sad that people like him are their own greatest source of misery.

There is no misery... only possibility and that will remain however much you crow to the contrary. Yehaw!

mashman

1st July 2015, 21:29

Sadly

As much as I would like to go a burnin and a slashin

Doin fk all is the best way . . .in a skinny indian lawyer kinda way

But if that fails thena burning and a slashin raping and a pillaging
In a blazing saddles kinda way will need to happen

https://youtu.be/2_urvjCXg6c

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_2Npp-euLU

Scuba_Steve

1st July 2015, 21:35

Can we start burning things yet?

What? were we not meant to start yet??? :Oops:

Ocean1

1st July 2015, 21:45

This maybe true, it is just sad that people like him are their own greatest source of misery.

Meh. People like him are the same as everyone else: their own source of whatever they want.

When they understand that maybe they'll start producing something someone else would value instead of excuses.

Or not, nobody else really gives a fuck.

Brian d marge

2nd July 2015, 01:50

Dont piss the oldies off They get mean real mean

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Stephen

mashman

2nd July 2015, 07:59

Gazprom halts gas deliveries to Kiev – CEO Miller (http://rt.com/business/270949-gazprom-miller-gas-ukraine/)

oldrider

2nd July 2015, 22:56

Greek situation nervous time for world banksters: https://youtu.be/dwGC2is1DGw - :wait: - :corn:

Brian d marge

3rd July 2015, 02:56

Greek situation nervous time for world banksters: https://youtu.be/dwGC2is1DGw - :wait: - :corn:

Greece is a test case to see how much debt the great unwashed will bear ........

Yes , Old banke de Germanie and the derivitives ........ oh how I LOLed ! ....

Stephen

mashman

3rd July 2015, 07:54

Driver Let Off Drugs Charges After Scientists Claim That Crystal Meth Improves Your Driving (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/driver-let-off-drugs-charges-121518139.html#os1WFhu)... woohoo, meth heads go hard coz yar gonna get away with it :facepalm:

French court: No compensation over faulty breast implants (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/french-court-no-compensation-over-faulty-breast-implants-085451682.html#T1ArHzH)

Gardener Who Spent £5,000 Creating Urban Oasis Is Ordered To Destroy It (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/gardener-who-spent-life-savings-on-creating-urban-oasis-is-ordered-to-destroy-it-150549104.html#kxcSifv)

mashman

3rd July 2015, 08:26

The case for Greece: when it forgave Germany's debt (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/case-greece-forgave-germanys-debt-154755455.html)... finally we get to the debt jubilee shit... shame it takes so much drama to get there.

Brian d marge

3rd July 2015, 18:59

But John the jew told me that it wasnt the chinese and by building a few more houses that john the jew and his mates have investments in . . .houses would fall back to an affordable rate
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-33339804

Not

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mashman

3rd July 2015, 19:58

Brian d marge

3rd July 2015, 20:29

Didn't Maxy deboy Keiser mention, several months back, that the chinese had been buying up london?
Yup
Hong Kong , .2 3 year short term investment
Doesnt matter if there are no people living in the house

At 13percent or what ever the london market is returning

In out and and sod the family

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mashman

3rd July 2015, 21:16

Yup
Hong Kong , .2 3 year short term investment
Doesnt matter if there are no people living in the house

At 13percent or what ever the london market is returning

In out and and sod the family

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Yeuk......

Brian d marge

4th July 2015, 01:19

Yeuk......

Meanwhile the jewish media is into overtime on the greek issue , trying for a Yes vote ....

Blah de Blah de Blah ........Snip

If voters back a bailout plan the government has scorned, Tsipras and Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis have said they would quit. That would lead to a scramble to either try to put together a national unity government to negotiate a loan deal or call new elections by September.
Already, Tsipras' coalition is under strain as a succession of deputies from the right-wing Independent Greeks, his junior partners, have backed the 'Yes' vote.
Varoufakis, who alienated many euro zone colleagues with his economic lectures and outspoken style, said the IMF's report vindicated Greece's demands to put debt relief at the centre of the negotiations.
"It is music to our ears because what we have been saying right from the beginning is that the great, big reason why we have a huge crisis here in Greece is because our debt is unsustainable," he told Irish radio.
- Reuters

yokel

4th July 2015, 12:03

The worlds about to get a whole lot more stupid.

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husaberg

4th July 2015, 12:23

https://setimoportal.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/gay-neo-nazis-360x267.jpg
http://spi3uk.itvnet.lv/upload2/articles/65/659102/images/Es-izkapu-no-skapja-4.jpg

Brian d marge

5th July 2015, 22:52

Analysts say the youth vote is important in greece . , , . Heard that one before . .
Scotland me thinks

Not so much in this case but if they can stack the odds
https://youtu.be/kZk400xCu-A

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mashman

6th July 2015, 08:28

Crackdown On 'Rich' Council House Tenants (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/crackdown-rich-council-house-tenants-221350191.html#f9ZdaO2)

mashman

6th July 2015, 09:11

Christine Lagarde attack on Greece backfires as she pays no tax (http://www.makewarshistory.co.uk/?p=1259)... bwaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa

Katman

7th July 2015, 18:23

yokel

7th July 2015, 18:41

Brian d marge

8th July 2015, 01:12

Jew.S.A playing with their toys again .......J P M , doesnt mean John player Matchless ....

in Q1, JPM cornered the commodity derivative market, with a total derivative exposure of just over of $4 trillion, an increase ot 1,691% from just $226 billion in one quarter!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-29/jpm-just-cornered-commodity-derivative-market-and-time-we-have-proof

not yet September ......

Stephen

Brian d marge

8th July 2015, 01:26

once upon a time

in................................................ .....................

313551Greece before.....
313550Greece After.......
313549 Venezuela
and a place not called Greece.........
313552 oh I thought you said Bail OUT .......my Bad Sorry

Just Sayin thats all ........ Just sayin

Stephen

Ocean1

8th July 2015, 08:44

Just Sayin thats all ........ Just sayin

Stephen

Borrowing money with no plans to repay it always ends badly?

Well, yeah, any 10 year old knows that.

Akzle

8th July 2015, 10:06

money... it always ends badly.

. .

yokel

8th July 2015, 10:10

Borrowing money with no plans to repay it always ends badly?

Well, yeah, any 10 year old knows that.

And loaning money out with no hope of it being paid back ends badly too, unless you're Jewish cockroach

mashman

8th July 2015, 11:21

Borrowing money with no plans to repay it always ends badly?

Well, yeah, any 10 year old knows that.

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-the-problem-is-that-borrowing-money-to-pay-back-more-borrowed-money-that-will-oblige-john-podhoretz-23-35-32.jpg

So let's not call it borrowing, let's call it leverage... coz that covers a multitude of scared old white muthafucka policies which means that they don't borrow :facepalm:.

Brian d marge

8th July 2015, 13:25

Borrowing money with no plans to repay it always ends badly?

Well, yeah, any 10 year old knows that.
So which counrty are you talking about ....They have ALL done similar ..

Greece did a legal currency swap derivitive deal with the help of JP Morgan to get into the Eu Germany was a willing partner as it lowered the mark making German exports cheaper

THEN the lending started , as it always does with the IMF ....( in order to inflate the assets before transfer ) .and with any lending its ALSO up to the lender to make sure the borrower can pay it back

any 10 year old knows that

Stephen

oldrider

8th July 2015, 18:01

mashman

8th July 2015, 18:19

So - all this money that the world has borrowed from the IMF and federal reserve system where did the lenders get it from? - it wasn't there before - who created it?

The people that borrowed it created the wealth - the lenders simply made book entries and charged interest for the privilege!

Yes - that makes sense every time - if you are a bunch of bloody crooks or con men! :Pokey: That is! :shifty:

Aliemz.

Once upon a time we didn't have wires. NOW we do and wireless etc... and WTF do we do with it :facepalm:... just chips in a game used to create and destroy indiscriminately. When man finally figures that little beauty out, we'll, as an earthbound species, change. We should mean what we do for everything concerned, and we don't, coz some scared old blind white muthafuckas simply can't grow up. What a lot of them don't actually realise, is that they've become nought more than the playground bully. They hold the balance of power. This will not always be the case :wari: The world is waking up, and that means new leaders :headbang:

They're not men. They're Aliemz ;)

Ocean1

8th July 2015, 19:34

So let's not call it borrowing, let's call it leverage...

Let's call it borrowing. 'Cause that's what the borrower agreed it was when they borrowed it.

Calling it anything else would only be an attempt to pretend it was something else.

mashman

8th July 2015, 23:49

Let's call it borrowing. 'Cause that's what the borrower agreed it was when they borrowed it.

Calling it anything else would only be an attempt to pretend it was something else.

Aha, borrowing leveraged against some form of asset i.e. labour...

Leverage gives a positive connotation... more justification :killingme

Brian d marge

9th July 2015, 03:51

As money flees it flees to safe havens

Hows those Auckland house prices

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33438416

Just sayin thats all

Stephen

Brian d marge

9th July 2015, 05:40

Borrowing money with no plans to repay it always ends badly?

Well, yeah, any 10 year old knows that.

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Socializim explained 4 u

mashman

9th July 2015, 08:29

Magical meat: 'Eating halal can turn you into a Muslim' says nationalist Swedish party (http://rt.com/news/272368-sweden-halal-meat-muslims/) :facepalm:... caliber noted and global guilt by association implemented.

Katman

9th July 2015, 09:55

oldrider

9th July 2015, 11:28

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/07/greece-financial-elite-democracy-liassez-faire-neoliberalism?CMP=fb_gu

http://www.nationofchange.org/2015/07/05/greece-what-you-are-not-being-told-by-the-media/

The same interests that own the banks own the media - so it is the banks reporting favourably about the banks - despite what is the real truth! - Go figure! :kick:

Katman

9th July 2015, 11:51

The same interests that own the banks own the media - so it is the banks reporting favourably about the banks - despite what is the real truth! - Go figure! :kick:

I found this sentence interesting.

"This is the essence of the New World Order — a world owned by a handful of corporations and banks; a world that is full of obedient, powerless debt serfs."

Is 'obedient, powerless serfs' another name for Goyim?

oldrider

9th July 2015, 12:51

I found this sentence interesting.

"This is the essence of the New World Order — a world owned by a handful of corporations and banks; a world that is full of obedient, powerless debt serfs."

Is 'obedient, powerless serfs' another name for Goyim?

They are relentless - the evidence is obvious - and they don't care any more that we know - the die is long cast! - Perhaps they deserve it? :corn: and so do we! :weird:

Brian d marge

9th July 2015, 18:53

Starter for 10

Which bank(er) made greece a nation ( state) ?

Hint; His cousin many times removed once cried " if you cut us do we not bleed "

Stephen

mashman

10th July 2015, 09:32

The Greeks work the longest hours in Europe? (https://instagram.com/p/47O6hGtIwk/)... oh dear, coz that'd mean that anyone who believes that hard work is rewarded is full of shit.

Scuba_Steve

10th July 2015, 10:07

The Greeks work the longest hours in Europe? (https://instagram.com/p/47O6hGtIwk/)... oh dear, coz that'd mean that anyone who believes that hard work is rewarded is full of shit.

Anyone with any sort of intelligence knows pay rate is inversely proportional to the work done*

* With exception being working for yourself

mashman

10th July 2015, 14:39

Anyone with any sort of intelligence knows pay rate is inversely proportional to the work done*

* With exception being working for yourself

... and when they say NO, they actually mean yes (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/greece-agrees-over-euro-demands-222112825.html) :shifty:

oldrider

10th July 2015, 14:49

... and when they say NO, they actually mean yes (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/greece-agrees-over-euro-demands-222112825.html) :shifty:

Goodbye Greece - after all these years - swallowed up by the NATO debt conglomerate - for a wee while - then the NWO? :corn:

Brian d marge

10th July 2015, 15:53

Goodbye Greece - after all these years - swallowed up by the NATO debt conglomerate - for a wee while - then the NWO? :corn:
Thats the real power being weilded

No wonder varis was told to leave

Bugger I had hope

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Scuba_Steve

10th July 2015, 15:54

... and when they say NO, they actually mean yes (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/greece-agrees-over-euro-demands-222112825.html) :shifty:

I love the title "Greece agrees over euro demands" like it was actually the people which decided

mashman

10th July 2015, 16:38

Goodbye Greece - after all these years - swallowed up by the NATO debt conglomerate - for a wee while - then the NWO? :corn:

They had absolutely no alternative from the get go. Would have loved to have heard some of the conversations :yes:... do it or you'll get no more money from the WEST... shoulda taken the deal let Greece descend into the first country to become an RBE :2thumbsup

Thats the real power being weilded

No wonder varis was told to leave

Bugger I had hope

It's good that some people look to be fighting for their country. There's never real hope where an alternative is not been offered to the people. Hopefully Varis will return with somefink free ;).

I love the title "Greece agrees over euro demands" like it was actually the people which decided

heh...

Brian d marge

10th July 2015, 18:15

League division 1

Shylock athletic 1 Greece nill

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mashman

11th July 2015, 00:31

League division 1

Shylock athletic 1 Greece nill

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I take it that's the 80's version of league 1?

Brian d marge

11th July 2015, 01:47

I take it that's the 80's version of league 1?
No the new ..... Euro vision

313597

Stephen

oldrider

11th July 2015, 12:13

I love the title "Greece agrees over euro demands" like it was actually the people which decided

Greek's didn't even get any EU loan money????: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT33xJQfboo :scratch:

Greg Palast on Greek situation: http://www.gregpalast.com/greeced-we-voted-no-to-slavery-but-yes-to-our-chains/

blue rider

11th July 2015, 18:15

this is very cool

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/10/denmark-wind-windfarm-power-exceed-electricity-demand

On an unusually windy day, Denmark found itself producing 116% of its national electricity needs from wind turbines yesterday evening. By 3am on Friday, when electricity demand dropped, that figure had risen to 140%.

Interconnectors allowed 80% of the power surplus to be shared equally between Germany and Norway, which can store it in hydropower systems for use later. Sweden took the remaining fifth of excess power.

“It shows that a world powered 100% by renewable energy is no fantasy,” said Oliver Joy, a spokesman for trade body the European Wind Energy Association. “Wind energy and renewables can be a solution to decarbonisation – and also security of supply at times of high demand.”

Brian d marge

12th July 2015, 00:48

Greek's didn't even get any EU loan money????: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT33xJQfboo :scratch:

Greg Palast on Greek situation: http://www.gregpalast.com/greeced-we-voted-no-to-slavery-but-yes-to-our-chains/
Yup only 3 %

But the Rothchild warburgs have spoken

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carbonhed

12th July 2015, 11:41

this is very cool

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/10/denmark-wind-windfarm-power-exceed-electricity-demand

No it's actually really stupid.

On a windy day in the middle of summer at the time of least demand they had a surplus of windpower. Bravo! What happens on a still day in winter?

The engineers at Google have already crunched the numbers on this and it doesn't work.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/5a2rv4.jpg

mashman

13th July 2015, 14:51

US soldiers opposed to war now find Canada less hospitable (http://news.yahoo.com/us-soldiers-opposed-war-now-canada-less-hospitable-153458414.html)

oldrider

13th July 2015, 16:44

US soldiers opposed to war now find Canada less hospitable (http://news.yahoo.com/us-soldiers-opposed-war-now-canada-less-hospitable-153458414.html)

According to plans that have been posted on the Nett - it will soon be all one country with Canada USA and Mexico lumped in together to form North America!

Have a read of this proposal. - link: http://www.rense.com/general67/einn.htm

mashman

13th July 2015, 18:38

According to plans that have been posted on the Nett - it will soon be all one country with Canada USA and Mexico lumped in together to form North America!

Have a read of this proposal. - link: http://www.rense.com/general67/einn.htm

I'm sure I've seen an accompanying map on my trails. Monroe Doctrine accomplished perhaps?

carbonhed

13th July 2015, 19:07

According to plans that have been posted on the Nett - it will soon be all one country with Canada USA and Mexico lumped in together to form North America!

Have a read of this proposal. - link: http://www.rense.com/general67/einn.htm

That's so dumb it reaches a new low even for these depths of retardedness.

mashman

13th July 2015, 19:33

That's so dumb it reaches a new low even for these depths of retardedness.

Yeah, but the depth of perception that you show would barely contain my ejaculate.

Brian d marge

13th July 2015, 19:39

Yeah, but the depth of perception that you show would barely contain my ejaculate.
Imperial measures or metric

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FJRider

13th July 2015, 19:42

Yeah, but the depth of perception that you show would barely contain my ejaculate.

His depth of perception is obviously pretty shallow ... ;)

husaberg

13th July 2015, 19:48

Yeah, but the depth of perception that you show would barely contain my ejaculate.

Just as well for you then livestock are more accommodating and offer ample capacity for you endeavours.:nya:
Careful though Axhole will get jealous.

mashman

13th July 2015, 21:09

Imperial measures or metric

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Depends on who you ask and after what.

His depth of perception is obviously pretty shallow ... ;)

It does get scarey mind.

Just as well for you then livestock are more accommodating and offer ample capacity for you endeavours.:nya:
Careful though Axhole will get jealous.

I oft dress up as a bull and get the farmer to do it for me :eek:

Brian d marge

13th July 2015, 21:22

Some of the people that post here are farmers

Eek

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husaberg

13th July 2015, 21:33

I oft dress up as a bull and get the farmer to do it for me :eek:

I think you are getting the Cows and the Bulls mixed up ya poofta urbanite.
There is a couple of pretty obvious visual clues.

oldrider

13th July 2015, 21:46

That's so dumb it reaches a new low even for these depths of retardedness.

Here's a link with an earlier "world" map on it: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/new_world_order_map.htm

There is more.

mashman

13th July 2015, 22:19

I think you are getting the Cows and the Bulls mixed up ya poofta urbanite.
There is a couple of pretty obvious visual clues.

heh... I can think of worse things to be.
There are also ways and means.

husaberg

13th July 2015, 22:21

heh... I can think of worse things to be..

That's only because you don't know any better.

mashman

13th July 2015, 22:23

That's only because you don't know any better.

lol... gotta weigh worse against something.

husaberg

13th July 2015, 22:29

lol... gotta weigh worse against something.
Just do what everyone else, does compare it to sex with Axel then everything just looks like its awesome;)

mashman

13th July 2015, 22:33

Just do what everyone else, does compare it to sex with Axel then everything just looks like its awesome;)

And miss my own experience by settling for what everyone else does... nah, stupid idea.

husaberg

13th July 2015, 22:38

And miss my own experience by settling for what everyone else does... nah, stupid idea.

Settling is that like a English/irish humping dog.
http://www.allatkaink.eoldal.hu/img/mid/98/ir_szetter1.jpg

mashman

14th July 2015, 08:21

Settling is that like a English/irish humping dog.

If you mean sitting and doing as one's told by their master, then yes :devil2:

mashman

14th July 2015, 08:24

Secret UFO Files Released As German Government Lose The Right To Keep Research Private (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/07/10/ufo-files-released-as-german-court-rules-against-parliament_n_7768572.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-tech&ir=UK%20Tech&ref=yfp)... govts, keeping important information away from people under the guise of competition and transparency since ages ago.

husaberg

14th July 2015, 11:01

If you mean sitting and doing as one's told by their master, then yes :devil2:

Dude, Flees I was thinking you were more the fetching and humping your owners leg.

mashman

15th July 2015, 10:54

Jade Helm 15: What you need to know about 7-state Pentagon super-drill (http://rt.com/usa/273436-jade-helm-drill-explained/)...

"and even Chuck Norris is running scared" bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa... millions of $ to run around getting ready :killingme fuckin idiots.

Banditbandit

15th July 2015, 11:11

Settling is that like a English/irish humping dog.

Or Maybe a Gordon Setter ????

http://www.dogsreviewed.com/images/gordon-setter.jpg

oldrider

15th July 2015, 11:27

Or Maybe a Gordon Setter ????

More your style I would have thought: https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Maori+kuri&biw=1268&bih=877&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CDsQ7AlqFQoTCOyYmYni28YCFaMppgod7RkHCQ

husaberg

15th July 2015, 12:28

Or Maybe a Gordon Setter ????

Is that you nodog:shifty:

mashman

16th July 2015, 09:29

Police To Be Investigated Over McIntyre Photo (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/privacy-debate-police-tweet-mcintyre-photo-132514990.html#ipuRbcy)

swtfa

16th July 2015, 10:17

mashman

16th July 2015, 10:25

This guy is a genius, one possible answer to explain our 'stupid world' . (Yes I'm throwing the cat among the pigeons). Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/feb/01/stephen-fry-god-evil-maniac-irish-tv

That if he existed we could blame him for our woes? Me thinketh the brainbox doth protest too much about what other people choose to think. Mind you, the way he's been "hounded" over his sexuality, it's bound to taint one's experience ;).

husaberg

16th July 2015, 11:22

That if he existed we could blame him for our woes? Me thinketh the brainbox doth protest too much about what other people choose to think. Mind you, the way he's been "hounded" over his sexuality, it's bound to taint one's experience ;).

So we can't blame god because he doesn't exist, but we can blame religious groups. Seems a little odd mashy?

swtfa

16th July 2015, 11:32

Me thinketh the brainbox doth protest too much about what other people choose to think.

We do, but it does make for a good debate ;)

mashman

16th July 2015, 11:38

So we can't blame god because he doesn't exist, but we can blame religious groups. Seems a little odd mashy?

I don't blame religious groups either.

We do, but it does make for a good debate ;)

heh... aye, it's up there with what do I wear today and pictures of Pluto.

puddytat

16th July 2015, 11:41

We do, but it does make for a good debate ;)

So good in fact that its been going on for thousands of years & no doubt now we'll be back to page upon page of Schism & semantics :facepalm::corn:

swtfa

16th July 2015, 11:51

So good in fact that its been going on for thousands of years & no doubt now we'll be back to page upon page of Schism & semantics :facepalm::corn:

I don't blame religious groups either.

heh... aye, it's up there with what do I wear today and pictures of Pluto.

:brick: I think I better go off and do something else with my day :lol:

mashman

16th July 2015, 18:46

Greece seeks relief from lenders after first bailout test (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/greece-seeks-relief-lenders-first-040219750.html)... gah :facepalm:

oldrider

16th July 2015, 19:38

Greece seeks relief from lenders after first bailout test (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/greece-seeks-relief-lenders-first-040219750.html)... gah :facepalm:

Think William Shakespeare had some time tested theories/observations on that subject! - :rolleyes:

Brian d marge

16th July 2015, 23:04

Think William Shakespeare had some time tested theories/observations on that subject! - :rolleyes:

Jp Morgan and Goldman sachs had yet to say; And if you wrong us, do we not revenge? If we are like you in the
rest, we will resemble you in that.

Stephen

jonbuoy

17th July 2015, 01:02

Greece seeks relief from lenders after first bailout test (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/greece-seeks-relief-lenders-first-040219750.html)... gah :facepalm:

It seems crazy to just keep pushing Greece further into debt. They have to give the Greeks something to work towards - if they aren´t careful they will end up with a civil war. Best thing for Greece would be to ditch the Euro but stay in the EU - I don´t think anyone is going to let them do that. Surely the German government can remember what happens when you cripple an economy with an un-payable debt?

Brian d marge

17th July 2015, 02:23

It seems crazy to just keep pushing Greece further into debt. They have to give the Greeks something to work towards - if they aren´t careful they will end up with a civil war. Best thing for Greece would be to ditch the Euro but stay in the EU - I don´t think anyone is going to let them do that. Surely the German government can remember what happens when you cripple an economy with an un-payable debt?
I have a feeling greece is a litmus case
A. Look at who is in charge
B. How much can people take before the toys are thrown

Finally asset stripping since ages ago .same assets same numbers ho hum

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oldrider

17th July 2015, 10:00

It seems crazy to just keep pushing Greece further into debt. They have to give the Greeks something to work towards - if they aren´t careful they will end up with a civil war. Best thing for Greece would be to ditch the Euro but stay in the EU - I don´t think anyone is going to let them do that. Surely the German government can remember what happens when you cripple an economy with an un-payable debt?

War of any kind is what the bankers make the most money from - that's why they manipulate and finance them where ever they can! - bigger the better! :niceone:

mashman

17th July 2015, 10:05

It seems crazy to just keep pushing Greece further into debt. They have to give the Greeks something to work towards - if they aren´t careful they will end up with a civil war. Best thing for Greece would be to ditch the Euro but stay in the EU - I don´t think anyone is going to let them do that. Surely the German government can remember what happens when you cripple an economy with an un-payable debt?

Silly innit.

I have a feeling greece is a litmus case
A. Look at who is in charge
B. How much can people take before the toys are thrown

Finally asset stripping since ages ago .same assets same numbers ho hum

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Wonder if good ole Schwartz had anything to do with it... coz he has form :yes:

Hobbyhorse

17th July 2015, 10:06

A lesson in economics:

Explanation of the Greek Bailout.

It is a slow day in a little Greek Village. The rain is beating down and the streets are deserted.

Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.

On this particular day a rich German tourist is driving through the Village, stops at the local hotel

and lays a €100 note on the desk, telling the hotel owner he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs in
order to pick one to spend the night.

The owner gives him some keys and, as soon as the visitor has walked upstairs, the hotelier grabs the

€100 note and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.

The butcher takes the €100 note and runs down the street to repay his debt to the pig farmer.

The pig farmer takes the €100 note and heads off to pay his bill at the supplier of feed and fuel.

The guy at the Farmers' Co-op takes the €100 note and runs to pay his drinks bill at the taverna.

The publican slips the money along to the local prostitute drinking at the bar,

who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer him "services" on credit.

The hooker then rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill to the hotel owner with the €100 note.

The hotel proprietor then places the €100 note back on the counter so the rich German traveler will not suspect anything.

At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, picks up the €100 note,

he states that the rooms are not satisfactory, pockets the money, and leaves town.

"No one produced anything", "No one earned anything".
However, the whole village is now out of debt and looking to the future with a lot more optimism.

And that is how the bailout package works!

oldrider

17th July 2015, 11:24

mashman

17th July 2015, 11:29

Thatcher made secrecy pact with Saudi king over ‘corrupt’ arms deal (http://www.rt.com/uk/310030-saudi-thatcher/)... Iron Lady? No! Just another in a long line of twisted cunts... kinda hardly surprising that the right whinge revere her so much given that they reflect her character.

mashman

17th July 2015, 11:40

MPs To Get 10% Backdated Pay Rise To £74,000 (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mps-backdated-10-pay-increase-104950204.html#Msrhevi)... bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa

Brian d marge

17th July 2015, 12:44

A lesson in economics:

"No one produced anything", "No one earned anything".
However, the whole village is now out of debt and looking to the future with a lot more optimism.

And that is how the bailout package works!

That is what you transactional banking ..... the above would work fine ... and is what some people have been saying ,

But as oldrider points out, some old Babylonian trick was copied , and if applied to the above , by the time the jerman arrived back he would have had only 41 Euro to give back to de jerman ( greeces long term interest rate is around 12 % )

So the Island needs some QE and some asset sales to occur then Greece would be debt free to the bank and minus 59 Euros worth of assets

May the shwartz be with you

Stephen

Brian d marge

17th July 2015, 12:48

Poor old OTTO

Throughout his reign, Otto was unable to resolve Greece's poverty and economic meddling from outside powers. The politics of Greece of this era was based on affiliations with the three Great Powers, and Otto's ability to maintain the support of the powers was key to his remaining in power. To remain strong, Otto had to play the interests of each of the Great Powers' Greek adherents against the others, while not aggravating the Great Powers. When Greece was blockaded by the (British) Royal Navy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Navy) in 1850 and again in 1854, to stop Greece from attacking the Ottoman Empire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) during the Crimean War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War),

I wonder WHO financed old otto !! Capt Red shield to the rescue !
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Stephen

Brian d marge

17th July 2015, 18:53

Oh Uncle Bertie you rake you ...

http://www.edwardianpromenade.com/society/the-many-scandals-of-the-marlborough-house-set/

(http://www.edwardianpromenade.com/society/the-many-scandals-of-the-marlborough-house-set/)I wonder who looked after the finances ........ de Hirsch , by chance ????

Oh noes the plot thickens .......

Stephen

blue rider

18th July 2015, 21:13

Almost unnoticed, in the niches and hollows of the market system, whole swaths of economic life are beginning to move to a different rhythm. Parallel currencies, time banks, cooperatives and self-managed spaces have proliferated, barely noticed by the economics profession, and often as a direct result of the shattering of the old structures in the post-2008 crisis.

You only find this new economy if you look hard for it. In Greece, when a grassroots NGO mapped the country’s food co-ops, alternative producers, parallel currencies and local exchange systems they found more than 70 substantive projects and hundreds of smaller initiatives ranging from squats to carpools to free kindergartens. To mainstream economics such things seem barely to qualify as economic activity – but that’s the point. They exist because they trade, however haltingly and inefficiently, in the currency of postcapitalism: free time, networked activity and free stuff. It seems a meagre and unofficial and even dangerous thing from which to craft an entire alternative to a global system, but so did money and credit in the age of Edward III.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jul/17/postcapitalism-end-of-capitalism-begun

Brian d marge

18th July 2015, 22:11

Another edward . . ,what was that quote from Churchill "From the days of Spartacus—Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky (Russia)... this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization... has been steadily growing

Mashy might well be on to something

On noes

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mashman

19th July 2015, 12:18

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jul/17/postcapitalism-end-of-capitalism-begun

:wari:... within 10 years!

Mashy might well be on to something

Funny, I'm merely one of "Millions of people are beginning to realise they have been sold a dream at odds with what reality can deliver." whilst coming up with an alternative. Millions of us and growing every day :wari:..

Akzle

19th July 2015, 13:43

i still say we should burn stuff...

Brian d marge

19th July 2015, 14:34

:wari:... within 10 years!

Funny, I'm merely one of "Millions of people are beginning to realise they have been sold a dream at odds with what reality can deliver." whilst coming up with an alternative. Millions of us and growing every day :wari:..
Why is the greece payment holiday only 5 yrs
Ive heard 5 to 8 years from a couple of other places but stuffed if i can remember where
Didnt think it was important at the time

Lets see if we get a bush or a clinton in the hot seat first

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mashman

19th July 2015, 17:23

Why is the greece payment holiday only 5 yrs
Ive heard 5 to 8 years from a couple of other places but stuffed if i can remember where
Didnt think it was important at the time

Lets see if we get a bush or a clinton in the hot seat first

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One final push before I arrive to conquer Europe perhaps :shifty:

I wouldn't worry about which temporary custodian gets in this time around... coz they're gonna be the last of that breed that hold office in the u.s.