Stupid World [Archive] - Page 31

Ocean1

22nd March 2016, 20:23

You still interested in that bridge I have for sale

My ounce of gold still buys the same toga

How's your paper money doing

Making poor people look rich since 1776???

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When you can wipe the dribble off your chin and debate the facts you might be worth replying to.

As it is you're not worth reading.

bogan

22nd March 2016, 20:30

No. I'm comparing how shit it is compared to something else we can have. Alas it's a system I must conduct commerce with... and I'm not one to cut ones nose off to spite ones face. Perhaps you've mistaken me for someone else.
Sounds like guesswork to me :killingme

Brian d marge

22nd March 2016, 20:34

When you can wipe the dribble off your chin and debate the facts you might be worth replying to.

As it is you're not worth reading.
That's a cop out and you know it

Many people have shown you the facts but ....

And I know why ..

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mashman

22nd March 2016, 20:57

So it's all guesswork and you can dismiss it out of hand. :rolleyes:

Better go tell the UN, they'll be mortified to be shown to be wrong by the preeminent professional... what field of statistics was your doctorate in again?

And you can stick your pity up yer arse, along with the rest of your enormously elastic dogma.

Nope.

Bullshit.

:killingme... well you could look on the positive side and accept it for free.

mashman

22nd March 2016, 20:59

Sounds like guesswork to me :killingme

Of course it does.

Woodman

22nd March 2016, 21:01

oh noes mr ocean!

http://visual.ly/global-debt-clock

we're better off that ever before!

//wait, wat?

$25k debt each? Pretty sure most people would be happy with just $25k debt.

mashman

23rd March 2016, 07:08

oldrider

23rd March 2016, 08:52

WA organic farmer must pay $804,000 in court costs after losing GM legal battle (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/mar/22/wa-organic-farmer-must-pay-804000-in-court-costs-after-losing-gm-legal-battle?CMP=soc_567)

Like the monetary system - justice serves everyone - unless you are honest innocent and law abiding! _ :doh: . (sigh)

Brian d marge

23rd March 2016, 08:57

Like the monetary system - justice serves everyone - unless you are honest innocent and law abiding! _ :doh: . (sigh)
Just been a good interview on national radio about the labour market ..the fella hit nail on head

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Akzle

23rd March 2016, 09:16

Just been a good interview on national radio about the labour market ..the fella hit nail on head

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http://www.converge.org.nz/pirm/nutech.htm

Brian d marge

23rd March 2016, 17:07

http://www.converge.org.nz/pirm/nutech.htm
They will never get a robot to get this ratty old xs650 to start ....

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Ocean1

23rd March 2016, 20:25

http://www.converge.org.nz/pirm/nutech.htm

Yeah, turns out a career flipping burgers was a bad idea!

Who knew??!!!

mashman

24th March 2016, 11:10

Yeah, turns out a career flipping burgers was a bad idea!

Who knew??!!!

Or Healthcare.

Who knew??!!!

(Junior)Doctors Set To Strike Without Emergency Cover (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/junior-doctors-escalate-strike-action-142732373.html)... coz Junior Doctors are mindless morons that follow "unions" etc...?

Brian d marge

24th March 2016, 13:11

8.50 a pint ...fk me

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Ocean1

24th March 2016, 13:13

Or Healthcare.

Who knew??!!!

(Junior)Doctors Set To Strike Without Emergency Cover (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/junior-doctors-escalate-strike-action-142732373.html)... coz Junior Doctors are mindless morons that follow "unions" etc...?

Go find out what it costs the taxpayer per year to train a doctor, then come back and we'll talk about your poor apprentice doctors and their "remuneration".

Brian d marge

24th March 2016, 13:19

Go find out what it costs the taxpayer per year to train a doctor, then come back and we'll talk about your poor apprentice doctors and their "remuneration".
Having just paid 200 dollars for a consultation
And first rate treatment
That's one tax/wage I'm happy to stump up for
Imagine how much cheaper it would be without

Capitalism

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Ocean1

24th March 2016, 13:31

Having just paid 200 dollars for a consultation
And first rate treatment
That's one tax/wage I'm happy to stump up for
Imagine how much cheaper it would be without

Capitalism

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Which is nothing like what the taxpayer pays for a RD's training per year, is it? Why even bother mentioning it?

And in fact state subsidized training of doctors isn't really anything like capitalism, is it? It's decidedly socialist, innit?

And I don't have to imagine what health care would be like without capitalism, I just have to look at communists efforts in national health care. It's third rate, at best.

mashman

24th March 2016, 14:50

Go find out what it costs the taxpayer per year to train a doctor, then come back and we'll talk about your poor apprentice doctors and their "remuneration".

We'll talk? :killingme...

Ocean1

24th March 2016, 16:42

We'll talk? :killingme...

You'll find out what it costs the taxpayer per year to train a doctor? :killingme

mashman

24th March 2016, 16:52

You'll find out what it costs the taxpayer per year to train a doctor? :killingme

heh... if you know, please share.

I realise that a doctor is required and wants to be trained. I believe that there should be no thing to prevent that person from training to be a doctor (short of competency etc...). This can be achieved without it costing anyone anything... but meh, You're still hung up on how much it costs to train a doctor.

Ocean1

24th March 2016, 18:42

heh... if you know, please share.

I realise that a doctor is required and wants to be trained. I believe that there should be no thing to prevent that person from training to be a doctor (short of competency etc...). This can be achieved without it costing anyone anything... but meh, You're still hung up on how much it costs to train a doctor.

The cost of training over a typical doctor's career is approximately NZ$1 million, about 80% of that cost is born by the taxpayer.

And what you believe is wrong.

Brian d marge

24th March 2016, 19:05

The cost of training over a typical doctor's career is approximately NZ$1 million, about 80% of that cost is born by the taxpayer.

And what you believe is wrong.
Lots of unused doctors in the beehive
And under current system ...your beloved capitalism
Their funding is being stretched cause we can't afford it .....
There might actually be a better way .... One that contributes to the production and supply to the community
Or one that puts social supply and production ...,

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Ocean1

24th March 2016, 19:21

Lots of unused doctors in the beehive
And under current system ...your beloved capitalism
Their funding is being stretched cause we can't afford it .....
There might actually be a better way .... One that contributes to the production and supply to the community
Or one that puts social supply and production ...,

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Yeah? What percentage of medical doctors are currently no working in their chosen field?

It's not my system. And if it's so capitalistically inclined then why is the state paying to train doctors?

And if funding is being stretched then how come the health budget has grown every year for the last decade?

And yes, even though NZ has one of the best health systems in the world there probably is a better way. But it's not a way you can claim to know anything about, let alone enunciate clearly.

Brian d marge

24th March 2016, 19:31

Yeah? What percentage of medical doctors are currently no working in their chosen field?

It's not my system. And if it's so capitalistically inclined then why is the state paying to train doctors?

And if funding is being stretched then how come the health budget has grown every year for the last decade?

And yes, even though NZ has one of the best health systems in the world there probably is a better way. But it's not a way you can claim to know anything about, let alone enunciate clearly.

Pot kettle

Point 1. Wtf left field that one are u trying to say ..ummm what exactly
Percentage of doctors not working in current field ... Show inefficiency...?

Point 2 health care budget is growing ..yes. So ???? Your point being ??? Possibly due them oldies ... You know the ones the ones that cost over 50 % of the welfare budget....

Point 3

U just fail to understand.....
In fact

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/765611c5acaab219c070fa3acca2f64c.jpg

Stop watching that purile television and look outside into the real world

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Ocean1

24th March 2016, 19:58

Let me see if I can help you follow your own conversation...

Lots of unused doctors in the beehive

Yeah? What percentage of medical doctors are currently no working in their chosen field?

Which is pretty simple, is there a veritable host of unemployed medical doctors or isn't there?

And under current system ...your beloved capitalism
Their funding is being stretched cause we can't afford it .....

And if funding is being stretched then how come the health budget has grown every year for the last decade?

Which is also simple, you claim we can't afford... something, presumably doctors, that being the topic of conversation.

Which is completely at odds with not only the increase in the number of doctors in the workforce but the size of the budget that pays for them.

So not only can we afford more health care but we actually are affording it.

AU just fail to understand.....

And since you're not one to back up your extraordinarily illiterate claims with anything resembling actual facts it sorta looks like you're the one failing to understand. Dunnit?

mashman

24th March 2016, 19:58

The cost of training over a typical doctor's career is approximately NZ$1 million, about 80% of that cost is born by the taxpayer.

And what you believe is wrong.

Wow. Chur.

No, it isn't.

Brian d marge

24th March 2016, 20:10

Let me see if I can help you follow your own conversation...

Which is pretty simple, is there a veritable host of unemployed medical doctors or isn't there?

Which is also simple, you claim we can't afford... something, presumably doctors, that being the topic of conversation.

Which is completely at odds with not only the increase in the number of doctors in the workforce but the size of the budget that pays for them.

So not only can we afford more health care but we actually are affording it.

And since you're not one to back up your extraordinarily illiterate claims with anything resembling actual facts it sorta looks like you're the one failing to understand. Dunnit?

Ummm no I think u have just miss understood

Doctors ..beehive ... ??? There might be politicians in the beehive

Or do I have spell it out further...

Where did I say can't afford doctors

I did however say there is a better way
To which those two ..isms sailed right over your head

Sharp seven is a callin ....hope you have it video taped. .
You can watch it again and again. And again

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mashman

25th March 2016, 10:55

Turkey has ‘serious questions’ to answer: Reactions to RT report on post-ISIS town in Syria (https://www.rt.com/news/337079-turkey-isis-oil-trade-evidence/)... Oh dear.

mashman

25th March 2016, 10:56

USDA okays Monsanto’s herbicide-resistant GMO corn w/o permits (https://www.rt.com/usa/337088-usda-deregulates-monsanto-corn/)... ugh.

Brian d marge

25th March 2016, 14:01

Turkey has ‘serious questions’ to answer: Reactions to RT report on post-ISIS town in Syria (https://www.rt.com/news/337079-turkey-isis-oil-trade-evidence/)... Oh dear.
Christmas will sort that out

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Brian d marge

25th March 2016, 17:46

USDA okays Monsanto’s herbicide-resistant GMO corn w/o permits (https://www.rt.com/usa/337088-usda-deregulates-monsanto-corn/)... ugh.
I'd you take them to Fukushima you would get popcorn
Win win

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carbonhed

25th March 2016, 18:11

USDA okays Monsanto’s herbicide-resistant GMO corn w/o permits (https://www.rt.com/usa/337088-usda-deregulates-monsanto-corn/)... ugh.

Dicamba isn't an alternative to glyphosate. You add it to glyphosate to broaden the spectrum of weeds it controls. Like clovers frinstance.

It's also not under any Monsanto patents so there's plenty of generic alternatives.

Think that about covers it.

You don't know shit from cereals.

carbonhed

25th March 2016, 18:22

Artificial intelligence gets on interweb, learns from morons and evolves into Katman?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/science/article4721272.ece

mashman

25th March 2016, 18:40

Dicamba isn't an alternative to glyphosate. You add it to glyphosate to broaden the spectrum of weeds it controls. Like clovers frinstance.

It's also not under any Monsanto patents so there's plenty of generic alternatives.

Think that about covers it.

You don't know shit from cereal.

That's nice dear.

I was looking at it more along the lines of, without permit for GM stuff... but your story was good too.

mashman

25th March 2016, 18:41

I'd you take them to Fukushima you would get popcorn
Win win

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Blow your microwave up surely?

husaberg

26th March 2016, 14:32

Artificial intelligence gets on interweb, learns from morons and evolves into Katman?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/science/article4721272.ece

Brilliant:corn:
but as the AI was actually answering questions, it must have been already more evolved than Katman.

Katman

26th March 2016, 14:43

Husaberk as AI.

http://beafunmum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/dreamstime_s_20093731.jpg

husaberg

26th March 2016, 16:40

Its probably time you exited the closet Steve. It might make you a nicer person, With you not having to lead a double life and continually attempt to over compensate.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/d5/19/84/d519847291a545d0da937e8d19fd4736.jpg

awa355

29th March 2016, 17:23

Only in amerika.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11613161

Trump's adviser on defence.

mashman

3rd April 2016, 08:42

Outrage at solar power fee increase (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/31229659/outrage-at-solar-power-fee-increase/)... irony, ignorance, idiocy... welcome home story.

Woodman

3rd April 2016, 09:09

Outrage at solar power fee increase (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/31229659/outrage-at-solar-power-fee-increase/)... irony, ignorance, idiocy... welcome home story.

If what Unison say is correct and non solar users are subsidising the solar users then yes the extra charges are fair.

mashman

3rd April 2016, 09:19

If what Unison say is correct and non solar users are subsidising the solar users then yes the extra charges are fair.

Ahhhhh, it's catching. Fortunately no one else will read it.

bogan

3rd April 2016, 09:20

If what Unison say is correct and non solar users are subsidising the solar users then yes the extra charges are fair.

Yeh, but it's just approximated. Using more power at peak times is what all users do, it's what makes it 'peak' time. Seems poorly handled, either go to multi rate monitoring and billing, or charge for infrastructure and power used, in amounts reflecting the cost to the provider. Which, this later could just be what they are doing, and it's just another media beatup to captive the outrage of stupid worlders...

oldrider

3rd April 2016, 09:20

Outrage at solar power fee increase (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/31229659/outrage-at-solar-power-fee-increase/)... irony, ignorance, idiocy... welcome home story.

Obviously an opportunity to shop around for another supply partner! - Competition? :shifty:

mashman

3rd April 2016, 09:25

Obviously an opportunity to shop around for another supply partner! - Competition? :shifty:

Aye, that's in the idiocy category :laugh:

Ocean1

3rd April 2016, 10:17

If what Unison say is correct and non solar users are subsidising the solar users then yes the extra charges are fair.

Only a supplier working in a very distorted market could come up with that rationalisation. It sort of says that these are our costs and we'll mess with charges to each category of client however we see fit in order to cover those costs.

When in fact the cost to supply their product is nearly identical for all of their (residential) clients: the cost of supplying the infrastructure. The actual consumption affects that cost-to-supply figure so little it's not worth worrying about, certainly not worth the costs of metering.

So they should really be charging a set fee for connection, and that's it. They've distorted the market to extract the most from it and the market has reacted as it always will: it's changed shape to meet supply costs.

When the industry sorts their charges out more in line with the cost to supply they'll have my respect. Until then, like every other customer I'll take every opportunity to cut their margins as far as possible.

Brian d marge

3rd April 2016, 10:53

That's slow ..America went through this about a year ago..with utilities in one of the coastal regions adding charges to solar .....because of the dumping of cheap solar panels on the market by china AFTER soros pulled his investment by selling to a German company who as any capitalist would know ramped up supply to meet the demand tis what more or less happened

Welcome to the new world order ... Now bend over

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mashman

3rd April 2016, 11:59

Only a supplier working in a very distorted market could come up with that rationalisation. It sort of says that these are our costs and we'll mess with charges to each category of client however we see fit in order to cover those costs.

When in fact the cost to supply their product is nearly identical for all of their (residential) clients: the cost of supplying the infrastructure. The actual consumption affects that cost-to-supply figure so little it's not worth worrying about, certainly not worth the costs of metering.

So they should really be charging a set fee for connection, and that's it. They've distorted the market to extract the most from it and the market has reacted as it always will: it's changed shape to meet supply costs.

When the industry sorts their charges out :killingme

And that one, even though I agree with the vast majority of the post in regards to market "ethic", goes in the ignorance category... but only coz money.

Woodman

3rd April 2016, 16:52

Only a supplier working in a very distorted market could come up with that rationalisation. It sort of says that these are our costs and we'll mess with charges to each category of client however we see fit in order to cover those costs.

When in fact the cost to supply their product is nearly identical for all of their (residential) clients: the cost of supplying the infrastructure. The actual consumption affects that cost-to-supply figure so little it's not worth worrying about, certainly not worth the costs of metering.

So they should really be charging a set fee for connection, and that's it. They've distorted the market to extract the most from it and the market has reacted as it always will: it's changed shape to meet supply costs.

When the industry sorts their charges out more in line with the cost to supply they'll have my respect. Until then, like every other customer I'll take every opportunity to cut their margins as far as possible.

Fair enough, also the solar guys could just man up and go completely off grid if the energy companies don't play ball.

bogan

3rd April 2016, 17:19

Fair enough, also the solar guys could just man up and go completely off grid if the energy companies don't play ball.

Better yet, get the infrastructure to go off grid, but instead use the battery bank to buffer the load on the grid.

Woodman

3rd April 2016, 17:31

Better yet, get the infrastructure to go off grid, but instead use the battery bank to buffer the load on the grid.

Correct me if I misunderstand, but do you mean that every house has its own solar power and we get rid of power stations, and any excess goes into a grid/battery bank? maybe smaller localised or community grids? sort of like the internet?

Would that work?

Or have I got the wrong end of your stick?

bogan

3rd April 2016, 17:36

Correct me if I misunderstand, but do you mean that every house has its own solar power and we get rid of power stations, and any excess goes into a grid/battery bank? maybe smaller localised or community grids? sort of like the internet?

Would that work?

Or have I got the wrong end of your stick?

Sort of, I was more thinking home batteries would be more important, as they could buffer out the peak demand completely. Local grid, and power generation, can then be rated to a lower value; or conversely (and more usefully), with the existing infrastructure we could supply a higher 'peak' demand.

Similar to Electric vehicles, if it's not effectively planned, there will be breakers tripping all over the show at 5:30pm when cars are put on the charge. But were it actually engineered, you could use the batteries in those cars to trickle charge overnight, but also feed back to the grid when required.

Ocean1

3rd April 2016, 18:07

Fair enough, also the solar guys could just man up and go completely off grid if the energy companies don't play ball.

Trouble is the cost of the local storage. It'd cost far more to build a realistic storage system than it cost to generate the power.

One of the reasons for the acceleration in installing smart meters is the growth in domestic generation, the new meters either don't record power going the other way or they record it separately. This so that the supplier isn't paying for their clients contribution, it's not being treated as a credit.

A good system would be a national supply network charged for on the basis of a direct share of the infrastructure cost, while taking advantage of the growing micro-generation capacity by end users by allowing credits for local generation. Best of both worlds.

But to make that work you have to free up the market, take out all the subsidies and surcharges.

Grumph

4th April 2016, 06:41

A good system would be a national supply network charged for on the basis of a direct share of the infrastructure cost, while taking advantage of the growing micro-generation capacity by end users by allowing credits for local generation. Best of both worlds.

Your charge system would work if all were at an equal distance from supply...It's very bad now in some rural areas. I met a couple who lived in Lees valley - some distance inland from Oxford,North Canty. They'd been forced to go off the grid cos the cost of putting in a line from the closest mains supply was in excess of $6000. They'd been advised that annual maintenance costs could in some years equal that too.

Ocean1

4th April 2016, 08:39

Your charge system would work if all were at an equal distance from supply...It's very bad now in some rural areas. I met a couple who lived in Lees valley - some distance inland from Oxford,North Canty. They'd been forced to go off the grid cos the cost of putting in a line from the closest mains supply was in excess of $6000. They'd been advised that annual maintenance costs could in some years equal that too.

I meant an equal share of the cost of the infrastructure.

You're right in that that's still a distortion of the costs of supply, a subsidy, but I think it's one that most users would be happy to bear.

What they're probably less happy with is the suppliers all refusing to allow consumer generated power to use the grid as a storage facility, a practice that would arguably eventually form the basis of a better system. Better because the thousands of micro-generators would be far more flexible and would allow better use of the national generating facilities. Far less use of coal to start with.

Jantar will be along shortly to express his horror at the thought of amateurs playing with his toys. :laugh:

idb

4th April 2016, 10:28

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2015/10/spain-approves-sun-tax-discriminates-against-solar-pv.html

Spain's government has recently approved a new national law on self-consumption of energy that taxes solar installations disproportionately. Most notably, the majority of self-consumers will be also taxed for the electricity they generate and consume in their premises, via their own PV systems.

According to Spain’s Photovoltaic Union (UNEF), the new law requires self-consumption PV system owners to pay the same grid fees that all electricity consumers in Spain pay, plus a so-called 'sun tax'. Specifically, said UNEF, a self-consumption PV owner "will pay a 'sun tax' for the whole power [capacity] installed (the power that you contracted to your electricity company, plus the power from your PV installation) and also another [second] 'sun tax' for the electricity that you generate and self-consume from your own PV installation (this applies to installations larger than 10 kW)."

Grumph

4th April 2016, 10:41

bogan

4th April 2016, 11:05

Or as may be more likely, where a council charges for water, your own well will probably have to be metered and paid for.....

Welcome to farm irrigation 20 years ago...

Which to be fair, is justified as the water table wells go in to, should be managed for environmental reasons.

mashman

4th April 2016, 11:43

Thin end of the bloody wedge...How long before you're charged for rain you've caught and stored ?

Or as may be more likely, where a council charges for water, your own well will probably have to be metered and paid for.....

You'll need to have rights to the water before you're charged for its use.

Collecting rainwater now illegal in many [US] states as Big Government claims ownership over our water (http://www.naturalnews.com/029286_rainwater_collection_water.html#)

Ocean1

4th April 2016, 12:57

You'll need to have rights to the water before you're charged for its use.

Collecting rainwater now illegal in many [US] states as Big Government claims ownership over our water (http://www.naturalnews.com/029286_rainwater_collection_water.html#)

Oh look, Big Government does something else you don't like. :rolleyes: In fact there's nothing new about it at all, it's amongst the oldest legislation in history.

It's purpose is to prevent someone monopolizing water resources. And you'd be the very first to bleat like a stuck pig if your uphill neighbor prevented you getting access to "your share" of the stream.

In fact given the number of dry rivers this summer I could wish there was a bunch more such legislation here.

Brian d marge

4th April 2016, 15:01

Oh look, Big Government does something else you don't like. :rolleyes: In fact there's nothing new about it at all, it's amongst the oldest legislation in history.

It's purpose is to prevent someone monopolizing water resources. And you'd be the very first to bleat like a stuck pig if your uphill neighbor prevented you getting access to "your share" of the stream.

In fact given the number of dry rivers this summer I could wish there was a bunch more such legislation here.
Big difference collecting rainwater and damming a stream up river

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mashman

4th April 2016, 15:01

Oh look, Big Government does something else you don't like. :rolleyes: In fact there's nothing new about it at all, it's amongst the oldest legislation in history.

It's purpose is to prevent someone monopolizing water resources. And you'd be the very first to bleat like a stuck pig if your uphill neighbor prevented you getting access to "your share" of the stream.

In fact given the number of dry rivers this summer I could wish there was a bunch more such legislation here.

T'was No. 1 off the rank for example purposes.

Who would have ever thought eh.

:killingme... coz it's a lack of legislation that's responsible for water usage. Good one.

Banditbandit

4th April 2016, 15:09

Given that many rural properties here rely on rainwater off the roof (either solely or in conjunction with other sources) as their only source of household water, the effect of that legislation in Godzone would be disastrous for us rural dwellers.

bogan

4th April 2016, 15:25

Big difference collecting rainwater and damming a stream up river

sent for a divine source

Is a stream not just a collection of rainwater? :scratch:

mashman

4th April 2016, 16:46

"Unprecedented Leak" Exposes The Criminal Financial Dealings Of Some Of The World's Wealthiest People (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-03/unprecedented-leak-exposes-criminal-financial-dealings-some-worlds-wealthiest-people)

Ocean1

4th April 2016, 17:58

T'was No. 1 off the rank for example purposes.

Who would have ever thought eh.

:killingme... coz it's a lack of legislation that's responsible for water usage. Good one.

Yeah, it's not like there's ever much relevance to your links.

Obviously not you.

Lack of effective legislation, correct.

Ocean1

4th April 2016, 17:59

mashman

4th April 2016, 18:45

Yeah, it's not like there's ever much relevance to your links.

Obviously not you.

Lack of effective legislation, correct.

There is. Just not the relevance you choose for my reason for posting.

Zero chickens.

Legislation is a retrospective act of punishment. The harsher the punishment, the more law bending will be prevalent. Just hope that ye have enough money to have ones misdemeanor quashed as economically expedient. Effective legislation indeed, ha.

Ocean1

4th April 2016, 18:58

There is. Just not the relevance you choose for my reason for posting.

Zero chickens.

Legislation is a retrospective act of punishment. The harsher the punishment, the more law bending will be prevalent. Just hope that ye have enough money to have ones misdemeanor quashed as economically expedient. Effective legislation indeed, ha.

No logical relevance, no.

There's your relevance problem again.

Your own definition I take it? Or is there another Stupid Worlder idiot enough to spout such shite?

Brian d marge

4th April 2016, 19:07

Is a stream not just a collection of rainwater? :scratch:
Yes but it is the potential of the water
If fall from sky into your rain barrel
How does this effect your mate next door
If you divert the stream to grow ya weed .. How does this effect your mate next door

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Grumph

4th April 2016, 19:32

If you divert the stream to grow ya weed .. How does this effect your mate next door

Aren't they in danger of breaking the commandment "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's stash" ?

Brian d marge

4th April 2016, 19:48

Aren't they in danger of breaking the commandment "thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's stash" ?
No water no stash
...

sent for a divine source

mashman

4th April 2016, 20:54

No logical relevance, no.

There's your relevance problem again.

Your own definition I take it? Or is there another Stupid Worlder idiot enough to spout such shite?

The you missed at least 1 logical reason. Meh.

Yeah, mine.

Fact.

Banditbandit

5th April 2016, 09:53

We already have similar legislation. Almost every country does.

Show me legislation in Godzone that prohibits rainwater being collected.

oldrider

5th April 2016, 10:27

Show me legislation in Godzone that prohibits rainwater being collected.

Well you can't do anything with it (apart from providing stock-water) without a water right - unless you buy it off the council for a specific purpose! :shifty:

Banditbandit

5th April 2016, 12:41

Well you can't do anything with it (apart from providing stock-water) without a water right - unless you buy it off the council for a specific purpose! :shifty:

I'll lay good money that more than half (it could be less, but I doubt it) the rural homes in Godzone exist because they collect and use rainwater off the roof ..

carbonhed

5th April 2016, 15:42

I'll lay good money that more than half (it could be less, but I doubt it) the rural homes in Godzone exist because they collect and use rainwater off the roof ..

In Kapiti new houses have to harvest and store rain water for the garden.

oldrider

5th April 2016, 16:08

I'll lay good money that more than half (it could be less, but I doubt it) the rural homes in Godzone exist because they collect and use rainwater off the roof ..

True but they still have to pay rates to have the roof there to collect the rain - indirect cost through legislation!

Anything that is free in this country simply means someone else is paying! - This information is not free I have to pay Spark for the privilege!

Ocean1

5th April 2016, 18:27

Show me legislation in Godzone that prohibits rainwater being collected.

It's been rolled up into the resource management act.

And yes, water is a resource managed under the act.

Well, it is for most people. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/67700797/maori-in-freshwater-bid

Scuba_Steve

5th April 2016, 22:29

It's been rolled up into the resource management act.

And yes, water is a resource managed under the act.

Well, it is for most people. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/67700797/maori-in-freshwater-bid

Just did a quick search of that & of over 100 mentions of 'water' not 1 says you can't collect it when it falls from the sky... you can take the tin foil hat off for the moment, your stupid worlder mates haven't outlawed it in NZ quite yet, they're still working on that one apparently.

Grumph

6th April 2016, 07:59

I'll lay good money that more than half (it could be less, but I doubt it) the rural homes in Godzone exist because they collect and use rainwater off the roof ..

Just did a quick search of that & of over 100 mentions of 'water' not 1 says you can't collect it when it falls from the sky... you can take the tin foil hat off for the moment, your stupid worlder mates haven't outlawed it in NZ quite yet, they're still working on that one apparently.

In Federated Farmers we place our trust that collecting rainwater in NZ will never be illegal...

Brian d marge

6th April 2016, 21:32

Ocean1

6th April 2016, 22:09

Just did a quick search of that & of over 100 mentions of 'water' not 1 says you can't collect it when it falls from the sky... you can take the tin foil hat off for the moment, your stupid worlder mates haven't outlawed it in NZ quite yet, they're still working on that one apparently.

I never said it wasn't legal to collect rainwater from your roof.

I said it was subject to resource consent. In other words, like pretty much every other country there MAY be constraints placed on your use of "your" water if that affects others. History's full of hydraulic monopolies, and laws controlling/preventing them have been around almost as long.

It's fuck all to get your G string in a knot about, the law's there simply to make sure arseholes don't starve their downstream neighbours of water.

Except here, of course. Here it's "Big Water", depriving the peeple of their rightfull.... sorry, got a little sick there, carry on.

mashman

7th April 2016, 00:18

where is mr Soros when ya need him ,,,cant find him anywhere .....not even a Hilary .....

https://panamapapers.icij.org/the_power_players/

must have taken a few hours on an unlimited data connection to download .....

Stephen

IRS HQ to remain closed for repairs for the rest of the week (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/irs-hq-to-remain-closed-for-repairs-for-the-rest-of-the-week/2016/04/05/79d3dce2-fb8d-11e5-886f-a037dba38301_story.html)

Brian d marge

7th April 2016, 00:28

IRS HQ to remain closed for repairs for the rest of the week (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/irs-hq-to-remain-closed-for-repairs-for-the-rest-of-the-week/2016/04/05/79d3dce2-fb8d-11e5-886f-a037dba38301_story.html)
Probably downloading Ted cruz s little black book or soros has been playing with his computer again...

sent for a divine source

Banditbandit

7th April 2016, 09:31

Chapman Tripp publication:

New Zealand now an attractive tax location for offshore managed funds
10 October 2011

"Foreign investors in a New Zealand fund with only foreign investments will now bear no New Zealand tax on their income, whether or not the fund distributes that income. The tax change, which came into force in September 2011, should make New Zealand managed funds an attractive alternative to funds resident in Luxembourg, Ireland or the Caymans."

http://www.chapmantripp.com/publications/Pages/New-Zealand-now-an-attractive-tax-location.aspx

So ... we are not a tax haven ... yeah right ..

Brian d marge

7th April 2016, 13:18

Good old Soros ...bulshytting since ages ago
Why doesn't he stick to color revolutions ... He could do one in Panama..
Or draft plans to track money then we would know where the bad people hide their money..
I know digital money ....

Great plan Soros .. Well done

sent for a divine source

mashman

7th April 2016, 20:58

Brian d marge

7th April 2016, 21:30

Saudi-led naval blockade leaves 20m Yemenis facing humanitarian disaster (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/05/saudi-led-naval-blockade-worsens-yemen-humanitarian-disaster)... the pinnacle of civilisation :facepalm:
I'm waiting for the press to leak 20 million terabytes so that we can make an informed decision

sent for a divine source

mashman

8th April 2016, 09:09

I'm waiting for the press to leak 20 million terabytes so that we can make an informed decision

sent for a divine source

Aye... coz who in their right mind would have already have made their decision by now based on the evidence already before the jury for consideration. A lovely little irony, there's no one to grass too :killingme

mashman

8th April 2016, 09:47

Kiwibank share buy-back `could cost $1.1b' (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/31287440/mixed-feelings-about-kiwibank-sale/#pause)

Brian d marge

10th April 2016, 22:29

A good watch , but then those who wont ....wont ......]

https://youtu.be/6P97r9Ci5Kg

(https://youtu.be/6P97r9Ci5Kg)

Katman

12th April 2016, 08:31

Why I keep banging on about certain issues.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/11/the-panama-papers-told-us-what-we-already-knew-how-we-respond-will-be-the-story

Akzle

12th April 2016, 09:22

Why I keep banging on about certain issues.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/11/the-panama-papers-told-us-what-we-already-knew-how-we-respond-will-be-the-story

i was thinking of this this morning. all the faux outrage. it will burn out in a week or two. then ther'll be another media beatup/ distracto bullshit and status quo prevails.

ahh. sheeple.

Katman

12th April 2016, 09:24

i was thinking of this this morning. all the faux outrage. it will burn out in a week or two. then ther'll be another media beatup/ distracto bullshit and status quo prevails.

ahh. sheeple.

It's a sad fact that society's apathy is it's biggest downfall.

Banditbandit

12th April 2016, 09:26

It's a sad fact that society's apathy is it's biggest downfall.

It's deliberate - an apathetic population is easy to control ...

Just give them beer, Saturday night football and the occasional faux scandal to make them think they are on top of things ...

Katman

12th April 2016, 09:28

It's deliberate - an apathetic population is easy to control ...

Just give them beer, Saturday night football and the occasional faux scandal to make them think they are on top of things ...

I'm well aware of that.

Hence my scorn directed at the sheeple.

mashman

12th April 2016, 09:44

Change in focus for Canterbury portfolio (http://cera.govt.nz/news/2016/change-in-focus-for-canterbury-portfolio-11-april-2016)... Oh Christchurch you lucky bastards. More chair shuffling and fiddling. WTF did you do to get such attention!

Banditbandit

12th April 2016, 09:50

mashman

12th April 2016, 11:52

Deck chairs on the Titanic ..

And don't forget them thar Roman fiddles :violin:

Woodman

12th April 2016, 12:46

I'm well aware of that.

Hence my scorn directed at the sheeple.

Do we need to bow to your superiority?

Katman

12th April 2016, 12:48

Do we need to bow to your superiority?

I'd prefer that you just woke the fuck up.

Brian d marge

12th April 2016, 15:10

I'd prefer that you just woke the fuck up.
Not when subjected to that purile garbage you fellas called TV
Agenda ridden lies at 6pm followed by adverts for banks disguised as home improvement shows ..
Once in a blue moon a national radio hack with a conscience would slip in a story ...but it's a rarity

Though ..I was at a book reading in Hamner and a farmer's wife came out with a belter
She said " I hope the economy will crash so that we can return to normality" ...or something like that

I suspect she may not have fully understood how close to the mark she actually was

Stephen

sent for a divine source

oldrider

12th April 2016, 17:18

Don't usually care too much for this guy but he is spot on about this onslaught against Putin and Russia! :yes: (So bloody obvious - if it wasn't so serious it's laughable)

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Woodman

12th April 2016, 17:44

I'd prefer that you just woke the fuck up.

Ticked that box. Stopped giving a fuck about 6 months ago.

Not when subjected to that purile garbage you fellas called TV
Agenda ridden lies at 6pm followed by adverts for banks disguised as home improvement shows ..
Once in a blue moon a national radio hack with a conscience would slip in a story ...but it's a rarity

Though ..I was at a book reading in Hamner and a farmer's wife came out with a belter
She said " I hope the economy will crash so that we can return to normality" ...or something like that

I suspect she may not have fully understood how close to the mark she actually was

Stephen

sent for a divine source

With you on that, no longer watch the news, its crap and mostly irrelevant, and don't talk to me about what people watch on plebs tv. Since cancelling SKY a few months back, its a real shock to see what is on offer. :weep: and supposedly what people want to watch.

Katman

12th April 2016, 17:46

Ticked that box. Stopped giving a fuck about 6 months ago.

That's precisely the apathy that makes you one of the sheeple.

Woodman

12th April 2016, 17:53

That's precisely the apathy that makes you one of the sheeple.

Disagree, I choose to not give a fuck. Nobody told me to not give a fuck. I am not blindly following a group of not give a fucks. It was a conscious choice. Make of that what you will.

And you forgot the sheep picture.

Katman

12th April 2016, 17:59

Disagree, I choose to not give a fuck. Nobody told me to not give a fuck. I am not blindly following a group of not give a fucks. It was a conscious choice. Make of that what you will.

Governments love people like you.

mashman

12th April 2016, 18:07

Don't usually care too much for this guy but he is spot on about this onslaught against Putin and Russia! :yes: (So bloody obvious - if it wasn't so serious it's laughable)

I'm still waiting for someone to answer the $64 gazillion question. Given that the US has double the number of squillionaires than any other country and given that Mossack Fonseca don't like mercans as customers, who's hiding the mercan money?

Ocean1

12th April 2016, 18:08

That's precisely the apathy that makes you one of the sheeple.

I think he's just aware that if giving the sort of fucks you do results in your particular range of character deficits then he's better off giving none.

Better off dead, in fact.

sidecar bob

12th April 2016, 18:09

That's precisely the apathy that makes you one of the sheeple.

Some of us don't need to escape the mediocrity of our daily lives by using a faux interest in the cares of the world as a distraction.
Maybe some people are burying their heads in the sand of what is happening to them in their daily lives, which is probably far more tragic than burying ones head in the sand regarding world politics, which frankly, we can do fuck all about anyway.

mashman

12th April 2016, 18:10

With you on that, no longer watch the news, its crap and mostly irrelevant, and don't talk to me about what people watch on plebs tv. Since cancelling SKY a few months back, its a real shock to see what is on offer. :weep: and supposedly what people want to watch.

Supply and demand at its finest. Fuck demand!

Ocean1

12th April 2016, 18:11

I'm still waiting for someone to answer the $64 gazillion question. Given that the US has double the number of squillionaires than any other country and given that Mossack Fonseca don't like mercans as customers, who's hiding the mercan money?

You might have more luck using a language someone other than just you understands.

mashman

12th April 2016, 18:17

You might have more luck using a language someone other than just you understands.

What??????

Katman

12th April 2016, 18:23

.....results in your particular range of character deficits......

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Katman

12th April 2016, 18:30

Some of us don't need to escape the mediocrity of our daily lives by using a faux interest in the cares of the world as a distraction.

No wonder you got your head smacked in by a woman.

Woodman

12th April 2016, 18:41

I think he's just aware that if giving the sort of fucks you do results in your particular range of character deficits then he's better off giving none.

Better off dead, in fact.

Exactly, it was doing nothing for me at all.

Akzle

12th April 2016, 18:43

Ticked that box. Stopped giving a fuck about 6 months ago.

your welcome.

sidecar bob

12th April 2016, 18:56

No wonder you got your head smacked in by a woman.
Head smacked in? Right in no less? lol, that's a major advance on the real story from 8 or 9 years ago, but a good addition of G.S.T etc on your part.
Interesting come back & not sure how my aversion to woman beating & me not effortlessly thrashing the fuck out of her aprox 40 per cent of my body mass in return has anything to do with it.
Yeah, that was Goblin, a member on here. I repaired parts for her bike & when I requested minimal payment, she tried to steal them, & when I stopped her, she took a feeble swing at me (real fuckin classy) which I didn't retaliate to.
How's that related, except as a pathetic misguided attempt at a put down?
Upshot is that recently I gifted the repaired parts to a lovely bloke that races the same model bike, for which he was very grateful.
I'm curious to know exaclty what you are doing about changing the actions & views of the governments of the world apart from bitching about it on the net, wearing a colander on your head & talking down to people more than a commission only duvet salesman.

Brian d marge

12th April 2016, 19:00

That's precisely the apathy that makes you one of the sheeple.
Well it does matter what kind of fk your not caring about
If it's about those idiots in Wellington I also have plenty of give a shits that they will not get in their Xmas stockings
However I will distribute gasoline or coordinates to North Korea so that a rocket can be placed firmly up the arse of ashburton district council

sent for a divine source

Brian d marge

12th April 2016, 19:02

I'm still waiting for someone to answer the $64 gazillion question. Given that the US has double the number of squillionaires than any other country and given that Mossack Fonseca don't like mercans as customers, who's hiding the mercan money?
Ask George Soros he wrote the document he should know

However a BBC article pointed out that Americans don't need off shore accounts because their own system is dodgy enough

sent for a divine source

Brian d marge

12th April 2016, 19:03

Some of us don't need to escape the mediocrity of our daily lives by using a faux interest in the cares of the world as a distraction.
Maybe some people are burying their heads in the sand of what is happening to them in their daily lives, which is probably far more tragic than burying ones head in the sand regarding world politics, which frankly, we can do fuck all about anyway.
Mediocrity .,..that near Paris Texas?

sent for a divine source

Brian d marge

12th April 2016, 19:04

What??????
Don't worry he says that to all the boys

sent for a divine source

mashman

12th April 2016, 20:02

Ask George Soros he wrote the document he should know

However a BBC article pointed out that Americans don't need off shore accounts because their own system is dodgy enough

sent for a divine source

:killingme... t'would be the sensible approach I guess.

Don't worry he says that to all the boys

sent for a divine source

Must be a good thing then.

yokel

12th April 2016, 22:46

A good watch , but then those who wont ....wont ......]

https://youtu.be/6P97r9Ci5Kg

(https://youtu.be/6P97r9Ci5Kg)

Capitalism isn't killing itself, Marxism is you clown.

Brian d marge

13th April 2016, 00:42

Capitalism isn't killing itself, Marxism is you clown.
Tell me more ...... Seems to me you may not know what capitalism is

Think what efficiency does to a consumer market ...
Hint ...if everyone drives cars how can u sell cars to that market
Even more so when you have ramped up your production to meet the demand ...

Fail.org.com

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Banditbandit

13th April 2016, 10:20

Capitalism isn't killing itself, Marxism is you clown.

Marxism only exists as an idea .. how can an idea kill itself?

yokel

13th April 2016, 11:11

Marxism only exists as an idea .. how can an idea kill itself?

If Marxism only exists as an idea?(which it doesn't)
Then it was Pol Pot that killed loads of people not the Marxist ideas rolling around in his head?
He sure knows how to kill ideas.

Is this how you Marxist get around the fact that it is a failed idea?

We're already living in a Marxist society.

Banditbandit

13th April 2016, 11:22

If Marxism only exists as an idea?(which it doesn't)
Then it was Pol Pot that killed loads of people not the Marxist ideas rolling around in his head?
He sure knows how to kill ideas.

Is this how you Marxist get around the fact that it is a failed idea?

We're already living in a Marxist society.

Pol Pot was not a Marxist ... some kind of strange Asian revolutionary - but never a Marxist .. Maybe a Stalinist, or just another brutal dictator - but never a Marxist.

No-one has ever put Marx' ideas into practice - and if you truly understand historic materialism, then you don't need to put Marx' ideas into practice - according to Marx it will happen according to the historic processes.

And we are not living in a Marxist Society - whatever gave you that idea? A capitalist democracy - or maybe democratic capitalism .. but not even close to a socialist or a communist society - and not even close to the dictatorship of the proletariat, which was Marx' goal - not a socialist or communist state - they are only stages a society goes through to reach the ultimate goal - no government.

(PS. I'm not a marxist either ...)

Brian d marge

13th April 2016, 11:25

Pol Pot was not a Marxist ... some kind of strange Asian revolutionary - but never a Marxist .. Maybe a Stalinist, or just another brutal dictator - but never a Marxist.

No-one has ever put Marx' ideas into practice - and if you truly understand historic materialism, then you don't need to put Marx' ideas into practice - according to Marx it will happen according to the historic processes.

(PS. I'm not a marxist either ...)
If u mean
1. private capitalisms (the US, Western Europe, Japan, etc.),

2) state capitalism in the USSR and Eastern Europe, and

3)state feudalism and then a state capitalism in the PRC.

Then yes..

sent for a divine source

mashman

13th April 2016, 17:27

Stephen Fry Provokes Storm After Telling Sex Abuse Victims To Stop Whining And ‘Grow Up’ (https://www.yahoo.com/news/stephen-fry-provokes-storm-after-telling-sex-abuse-115208193.html)... what a hypocritical cunt.

Woodman

13th April 2016, 20:47

puddytat

13th April 2016, 21:03

mashman

13th April 2016, 21:26

Is he not allowed to speak his mind?

Of course he is... doesn't prevent him from being a hypocritical cunt does it.

Woodman

13th April 2016, 21:33

Of course he is... doesn't prevent him from being a hypocritical cunt does it.

I will give you that one.

mashman

13th April 2016, 22:00

I will give you that one.

You are so kind... I wish I could be all on your wavelength like all the time so I could give a fuck unlike no other :)

mashman

13th April 2016, 22:42

mashman

13th April 2016, 22:56

Homeless Man Owes Government Over $110,000 In Fines For Being Homeless (http://collectivelyconscious.net/articles/homeless-man-owes-government-over-110000-in-fines-for-being-homeless/)

Brian d marge

13th April 2016, 23:03

If Marxism is the problem why is the capitalist world buying all their stuff from China then....:scratch:
Marxism isnt a problem ..capitalism is

Two things create jobs .. Demand and nature

Capitalists organise and take a risk in order to use raw materials to supply the demand...

When the demand is met ,.,...profit the reward for doing the above....falls to zero

So you either reduce costs labour by using the new fangled areoplane and cheap labour to maintain or even boost profits

Or .....

sent for a divine source

Akzle

14th April 2016, 06:47

Thousands of students affected as 17 Edinburgh schools to close amid safety fears (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/thousands-of-students-affected-as-17-edinburgh-schools-to-close-amid-safety-fears-a6976641.html)... coz money.

i see your stupid money and raise you, new zealand primary kids.

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/education/78238496/primary-schoolkids-banned-from-climbing-trees-because-of-liability-fears

Akzle

14th April 2016, 06:54

Homeless Man Owes Government Over $110,000 In Fines For Being Homeless (http://collectivelyconscious.net/articles/homeless-man-owes-government-over-110000-in-fines-for-being-homeless/)
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11621374

i like the bit where " the problem still remained: "Wellingtonians are too generous.""
not ocean, obviously, but the rest of them.

And how the report about it cost $50 000.
O lawl.

yokel

14th April 2016, 06:55

Marxism isnt a problem ..capitalism is

Two things create jobs .. Demand and nature

Capitalists organise and take a risk in order to use raw materials to supply the demand...

When the demand is met ,.,...profit the reward for doing the above....falls to zero

So you either reduce costs labour by using the new fangled areoplane and cheap labour to maintain or even boost profits

Or .....

sent for a divine source

Or...... Pol Pot.

http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/museum/cook.htm

Capitalism is by far the best system, it is what brings around the efficiency that makes people think about dumb arse utopias.

your Marxist utopia will last 5 minutes, no Capitalism = no complex efficient society.

We were capitalists, now socialists and now with the stupid young people coming out of universities that have no will to work or no job to go to become budding Marxists.

Capitalisms doesn't fail, but societies sure do.

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Scuba_Steve

14th April 2016, 07:18

Capitalism is by one of the worst systems
...
We were socialists, now heading capitalist

Capitalisms is designed to fail, and societies based on it sure do.

FTFY :yes:
If you really like capitalism so much I suggest fucking off to one of the most capitalist countries in the world at current, China. Have fun!

Akzle

14th April 2016, 07:33

Capitalism is by far the best system, it is what brings around the efficiency that makes people think about dumb arse utopias.

your Marxist utopia will last 5 minutes, no Capitalism = no complex efficient society.

hahahahhaahahhaahahhaaaaaaa. You fucken idiot.

yokel

14th April 2016, 08:34

FTFY :yes:
If you really like capitalism so much I suggest fucking off to one of the most capitalist countries in the world at current, China. Have fun!

If you don't like capitalism so much? Then give me all your stuff.
China is a lot better off today than back in the day under Marxist Mao's communist utopia.

mashman

14th April 2016, 09:12

i see your stupid money and raise you, new zealand primary kids.

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/education/78238496/primary-schoolkids-banned-from-climbing-trees-because-of-liability-fears

Ooooof, close call. Although the solution to that one is easier than the stupid money problem mind. Simply get the parents to sign a waiver. Done.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11621374

i like the bit where " the problem still remained: "Wellingtonians are too generous.""
not ocean, obviously, but the rest of them.

And how the report about it cost $50 000.
O lawl.

"Beggars are there because they have psychiatric and addiction problems."... sounds like yer average capitalist.

mashman

14th April 2016, 09:16

your Marxist utopia will last 5 minutes, no Capitalism = no complex efficient society.

If you don't like capitalism so much? Then give me all your stuff.

That you Ocean? Anyhoo, you're right, there will be no complex efficient society. There will be a far simpler far more efficient and far more effective society though. Just keep reading those books and I'm sure you'll be up to Ocean's standard of moronicity soon.

Akzle

14th April 2016, 09:21

If you don't like capitalism so much? Then give me all your stuff.
China is a lot better off today than back in the day under Marxist Mao's communist utopia.

woah nelly!

http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/07/05/diet-related-health-crisis-invades-asia

methinks you understand not, the werd "capitalism"

Ocean1

14th April 2016, 09:36

woah nelly!

http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/07/05/diet-related-health-crisis-invades-asia

methinks you understand not, the werd "capitalism"

Fuck all to do with capitalism.

But the fact they're overeating rather than dying of hunger is certainly due to free trade benefits.

And in passing, you're not one to be shooting your mouth off about either thinking or understanding much.

Akzle

14th April 2016, 09:43

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=320963&stc=1&d=1460583596

since i was already sitting in this thread.

the ironies being: i dont run winblows, and when i do, it doesn't look liek ghey XP theme. and b) there's no cunt within 300 yards of my house.
(C&D bonus, my ISP routes me through auckland and my browser routes me through california, so finding where i am isn't all that likely, either)

ahh, stupid people.

Akzle

14th April 2016, 09:45

And in passing, you're not one to be shooting your mouth off about either thinking or understanding much.

:killingme

coming from YOU.
just-too-muchery old son, just too much! :laugh:

mashman

14th April 2016, 10:02

The new astrology - By fetishising mathematical models, economists turned economics into a highly paid pseudoscience (https://aeon.co/essays/how-economists-rode-maths-to-become-our-era-s-astrologers)

"In the hypothetical worlds of rational markets, where much of economic theory is set, perhaps. But real-world history tells a different story, of mathematical models masquerading as science and a public eager to buy them, mistaking elegant equations for empirical accuracy."

"The discipline of economics, however, is presently so blinkered by the talismanic authority of mathematics that theories go overvalued and unchecked."

yokel

14th April 2016, 10:39

Banditbandit

14th April 2016, 10:51

But the fact they're overeating rather than dying of hunger is certainly due to free trade benefits.

You say that like it is a good thing ...

"You're really poor and dying of hunger .. there's no profit in that ... OK we will improve your economy so you can afford to eat yourself to death while we makes profits .. "

Good idea .. Yeah right !

Brian d marge

14th April 2016, 12:40

What are you even doing with a capitalist invention like a computer?
You should be outside toiling with your hammer and sickle.
When I visited your wonderful country I was shocked how deep the Orwellian brainwashing had run

At least they haven't started building the human resettlement zones

No wait they have .....

Baaaaa

sent for a divine source

Ocean1

14th April 2016, 13:25

You say that like it is a good thing ...

"You're really poor and dying of hunger .. there's no profit in that ... OK we will improve your economy so you can afford to eat yourself to death while we makes profits .. "

Good idea .. Yeah right !

Why don't you go and explain to them that they've made a terrible mistake, that they need to reassemble their bamboo curtain and starve to death behind it like good wee third world socialist peasants.

Oh, and maybe have a chat to them about how good socialists should ideally be feeling a bit more guilty about that profit they're now making than they currently do.

In fact, maybe you could go join them, you've obviously spotted some awesome advantages that they gave up along with their previous communist ideologies, and starving to death is such a small price to pay for the greater good that is socialism.

Ocean1

14th April 2016, 13:29

Baaaaa

sent for a divine source

Fuck me, your phone's caught your illiteracy!

Brian d marge

14th April 2016, 13:35

Fuck me, your phone's caught your illiteracy!

Fk me you understood something ....

Brian d marge

14th April 2016, 13:36

What are you even doing with a capitalist invention like a computer?
You should be outside toiling with your hammer and sickle.
here is a 9 min sound bite to help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSQgCy_iIcc

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSQgCy_iIcc)

Scuba_Steve

14th April 2016, 19:49

If you don't like capitalism so much? Then give me all your stuff.
China is a lot better off today than back in the day under Marxist Mao's communist utopia.
I don't think you understand the systems being mentioned...

What are you even doing with a capitalist invention like a computer?
You should be outside toiling with your hammer and sickle.
yea, you really have no fucking clue!

mashman

14th April 2016, 20:47

Carters takes leaky suit to Supreme Court (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/31339015/carters-takes-leaky-suit-to-supreme-court/)... coz money.

mashman

14th April 2016, 20:49

Brian d marge

15th April 2016, 00:50

US warns of global attack on freedom, slams some allies (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/world/a/31348525/us-warns-of-global-attack-on-freedom-slams-some-allies/)... :killingme. If you want a laugh, this is most definitely the document for you. Irony and hypocrisy on levels seldom found in one reading.

He complained that Moscow treats Russians campaigning against torture or for free elections as if they are traitors and that Chinese law conflates peaceful activism and journalism with terrorism, through legislation.

why dont they just shoot the cowboys like the Americans do ...or steal the elections like Cruz did , or waterboard a few ethnics ..... or invade whole countries without being asked .....like the Americans do ....

Vote for Hitlary , shes the future !

mashman

15th April 2016, 13:12

Free market (https://www.crn-health-reports.com/?utm_source=NewsMax&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=Sponsor_Top_Banner&utm_campaign=newsmax)... bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa.

Greenland is now melting at a potentially catastrophic pace (http://theweek.com/articles/618147/greenland-now-melting-potentially-catastrophic-pace)

Akzle

15th April 2016, 14:21

Free market (https://www.crn-health-reports.com/?utm_source=NewsMax&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=Sponsor_Top_Banner&utm_campaign=newsmax)... bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa.

what you were searching to find THAT, im sure i dont know!

mashman

15th April 2016, 17:33

what you were searching to find THAT, im sure i dont know!

Obama on Hilary (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/178017-The-American-(USA)-2016-presidential-elections-thread?p=1130963563#post1130963563) sponsored link at the top "Americans Shocked as FDA Looks to Limit Choice of Popular Meds". It was all innocent til the system tried to corrupt me :innocent:

mashman

16th April 2016, 13:20

UC Davis pepper-spray officer awarded $38,000 (http://www.sfgate.com/politics/joegarofoli/article/UC-Davis-pepper-spray-officer-awarded-38-000-4920773.php)

"Earlier this year, UC Davis settled a federal lawsuit by paying $1 million to three dozen protesters who were pepper-sprayed."... If that $1 million was shared between those who were sprayed, then the sprayer got more in compensation than the sprayed. Justice eh, who needs it.

yokel

16th April 2016, 16:48

More dumbarse anti-capitalists,racists,sexists meat puppets.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/xRoIQEsjDds" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

mashman

16th April 2016, 17:27

More dumbarse anti-capitalists,racists,sexists meat puppets.

I know right. They shoulda learned something from him instead of mob ruling him out the door using force. How communistic of them.

mashman

18th April 2016, 10:05

Brian d marge

18th April 2016, 11:24

Saudi Arabia wants US to kill 9/11 bill, threatens to dump US assets worth $750 bn - report (https://www.rt.com/usa/339832-saudi-arabia-bill-terrorism/)... just a medium of exchange :killingme

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-s3BsmtvBIik/UezWM5z2WAI/AAAAAAAAPU0/FgcLmjhydR4/s1600/heads+sand.jpg
Smoke screen ..the dollar is heading towards the toilet ..so everyman and their dog will be dedollarising soon
Buy gold like the Chinese...

sent for a divine source

mashman

18th April 2016, 12:26

Smoke screen ..the dollar is heading towards the toilet ..so everyman and their dog will be dedollarising soon
Buy gold like the Chinese...

sent for a divine source

Hmmmmmmm, but who will buy the $ in that case? Sounds more like a case for debt jubilee?

Akzle

18th April 2016, 14:17

Hmmmmmmm, but who will buy the $ in that case? Sounds more like a case for debt jubilee?

or... Jewbilee. Iykwim.

Brian d marge

18th April 2016, 14:22

Hmmmmmmm, but who will buy the $ in that case? Sounds more like a case for debt jubilee?
No one
The Arabs are getting out of oil and into investment trusts or what ever ...the Chinese and Russians are buying gold
Half of the hot money is trying to find a place to park ..and Auckland house prices ain't what they used to be
We need Israel to get one of their minions to start a war...that will fix things
Did last 2 times ...[emoji12]

sent for a divine source

mashman

18th April 2016, 15:39

No one
The Arabs are getting out of oil and into investment trusts or what ever ...the Chinese and Russians are buying gold
Half of the hot money is trying to find a place to park ..and Auckland house prices ain't what they used to be
We need Israel to get one of their minions to start a war...that will fix things
Did last 2 times ...[emoji12]

sent for a divine source

Money eh... or indeed currency ;). None can afford a market collapse shirley? What affects one affects the other.

mashman

19th April 2016, 18:36

Brian d marge

19th April 2016, 18:48

New UN report finds almost no industry profitable if environmental costs were included (http://www.exposingtruth.com/new-un-report-finds-almost-no-industry-profitable-if-environmental-costs-were-included/)
Oh what a surprise
The UN promoting agenda 2030
So we must find a way to stop global warming and reducing our carbon footprint

Now before anyone starts .....some things ain't good ..like non biodegradable plastics ...

sent for a divine source

mashman

19th April 2016, 20:16

Oh what a surprise
The UN promoting agenda 2030
So we must find a way to stop global warming and reducing our carbon footprint

Now before anyone starts .....some things ain't good ..like non biodegradable plastics ...

sent for a divine source

heh... all fumbling for market share. Tis funny watching them all fall over each other despite what they know is coming.

"The best way to convince a fool that he is wrong is to let him have his own way." - Josh Billings

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fb/1b/bf/fb1bbf9ddfd4176707c026d25119827d.jpg

mashman

19th April 2016, 20:30

Rejected New Zealand baby names of 2015 (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/31383925/rejected-new-zealand-baby-names-of-2015/)... the fascist state ticks along nicely.

yokel

19th April 2016, 20:41

Smoke screen ..the dollar is heading towards the toilet ..so everyman and their dog will be dedollarising soon
Buy gold like the Chinese...

sent for a divine source

I just got myself more silver for a rainy no currency day.

Brian d marge

20th April 2016, 00:16

I just got myself more silver for a rainy no currency day.
Russia bought the gold and they do say silver will be the more usable ..can't remember the silly price they said it would get to

On saying that ..the only gold I have is the stuff I got at shantytown a few years back ..came in a nice bottle

sent for a divine source

Akzle

20th April 2016, 05:44

Rejected New Zealand baby names of 2015 (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/31383925/rejected-new-zealand-baby-names-of-2015/)... the fascist state ticks along nicely.

"allowed" names. :laugh:

Only a problem if you're trying to register a birth, silly coonts.
I think i'll rename myslef "the crown in right of ax,"
Yes. Yes that should wind up a few londonners.

Looking down thee list but, i wonder is "rogue" and "knight" were rejected on the same application...
And really, who the fuck calls their kid "superintendant"

Scuba_Steve

20th April 2016, 22:07

Looking down thee list but, i wonder is "rogue" and "knight" were rejected on the same application...
And really, who the fuck calls their kid "superintendant"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgX-oVZDS44

Banditbandit

21st April 2016, 14:15

Looking down thee list but, i wonder is "rogue" and "knight" were rejected on the same application...
And really, who the fuck calls their kid "superintendant"

And 'Sarjant' ... military father or demonstration of illiteracy ???

Katman

21st April 2016, 14:17

And really, who the fuck calls their kid "superintendant"

Well it beats calling them 'cuntstable'.

mashman

22nd April 2016, 00:14

Brian d marge

22nd April 2016, 00:42

:clap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em20wNHZsQc

Venezuela is on the brink of complete economic collapse (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-on-the-brink-of-complete-economic-collapse-a6850861.html)

13 Mainstream Corporations Benefiting from the Prison Industrial Complex (http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/10/10/12-mainstream-corporations-benefiting-from-the-prison-industrial-complex/)
Told ya about Venezuela a while back ...hats off to the boys for imposing sanctions and shit canning the oil price...
The Arabs ain't going to play as nice

Especially when Hitlary get her feet under the desk

Anyway who cares about the great unwashed ..agenda 2030 will see to that... They dress inappropriately anyway

sent from a divine source

Akzle

22nd April 2016, 07:40

13 Mainstream Corporations Benefiting from the Prison Industrial Complex (http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/10/10/12-mainstream-corporations-benefiting-from-the-prison-industrial-complex/)

i would just like to encourage everyone to not go to this site, or sites like these. anyone that cant put all the relevant information on one fucking page (rather than 5. FIVE!) doesn't deserve attention.
i NEVER click next. i will find another site, written by someone with an IQ, that will furnish the information i require.
srsly internets. stop being gay.

mashman

24th April 2016, 08:32

"The only people who will benefit are not investors, but anarchists who will embrace with delight the resulting chaos these policies will bring"

“The people are angry and they are lashing out” adding that people are “rejecting the establishment political parties and candidates at almost every electoral turn and seeking out more extreme alternatives at both ends of the political spectrum.” (http://www.businessinsider.com.au/societe-generales-albert-edwards-on-the-global-economy-2016-4)...

They hold on so tight to the obvious solutions. But at least "I" get a mention eh :wari:

oldrider

24th April 2016, 10:21

“The people are angry and they are lashing out” adding that people are “rejecting the establishment political parties and candidates at almost every electoral turn and seeking out more extreme alternatives at both ends of the political spectrum.”...

QUOTE ALBERT EDWARDS: "Central bankers will destroy the 'enfeebled' global economy and plunge the world into chaos" - really? :scratch:

"SURPRISE"! - that's exactly where they said they would take us - but the world didn't listen - they sucked up to the bankers! :doh:

From the ashes comes the Phoenix! - their very own prescribed Phoenix ffs! - too late! :facepalm: - :bye: - :kick: Christians and Muslims need not apply! :oi-grr:

mashman

24th April 2016, 11:00

mashman

25th April 2016, 07:52

Let the patient pay the piper, and the price of health care will fall (http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/04/23/let-patient-pay-piper-and-price-health-care-will-fall/QxVblSxYITIGW5EkpMXy3K/story.html)

Warren Buffett sees a smarter fix for inequality than raising the minimum wage (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/warren-buffett-thinks-there-s-a-smarter-solution-than-just-raising-the-minimum-wage-122322575.html)... "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Einstein

mashman

26th April 2016, 14:57

Meet the Aussie MP who set a river on fire to protest fracking (http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.3551902/meet-the-aussie-mp-who-set-a-river-on-fire-to-protest-fracking-1.3551905)... it must be natural.

mashman

28th April 2016, 18:25

A majority of millennials now reject capitalism, poll shows (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/26/a-majority-of-millennials-now-reject-capitalism-poll-shows/)... ut oh.

Akzle

28th April 2016, 19:33

A majority of millennials now reject capitalism, poll shows (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/26/a-majority-of-millennials-now-reject-capitalism-poll-shows/)... ut oh.

yay !

A shame the old white cunts will be dead.
No comeuppance. Shame.

Katman

28th April 2016, 20:26

Down the rabbit hole.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/john-keys-lawyers-involvement-in-lobbying-government-over-tax-laws-revealed

Brian d marge

29th April 2016, 00:29

A majority of millennials now reject capitalism, poll shows (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/26/a-majority-of-millennials-now-reject-capitalism-poll-shows/)... ut oh.
Reject it in favour of ??? .. Debt slavery ...organic tofu?

Vegetarians are crap at revolutions

sent for a divine source

Brian d marge

29th April 2016, 02:30

Anyway ..to more pressing matters..... Where the white women at

I have monies

sent for a divine source

Akzle

29th April 2016, 02:57

Down the rabbit hole.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/john-keys-lawyers-involvement-in-lobbying-government-over-tax-laws-revealed

looooooooooooololol. Fucken jews.

Brian d marge

29th April 2016, 03:01

looooooooooooololol. Fucken jews.
Dude...this packet of biscuits I'm eating
I've just discovered, has another 6 biscuits hidden under a separate tray
Which means there are 12 gourmet biscuits in this packet
Life is good
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sent from a divine source

mashman

29th April 2016, 14:22

Reject it in favour of ??? .. Debt slavery ...organic tofu?

Vegetarians are crap at revolutions

sent for a divine source

Yeah... that one used to get me too. "Something that works" is usually the answer I hear.

Too busy hugging.

Akzle

29th April 2016, 17:53

i'm generally dissatisfied with the state of things.

Brian d marge

29th April 2016, 20:46

i'm generally dissatisfied with the state of things.
Those biscuits were nice

sent for a divine source

mashman

29th April 2016, 21:34

i'm generally dissatisfied with the state of things.

Yeah... I'm moderately miffed. It's the british in me I think.

mashman

29th April 2016, 22:10

In the Name of the Profit: New RT documentary exposes dirty oil secrets, ISIS cozy ties with Turkey (https://www.rt.com/news/341317-isis-oil-profit-rt-documentary/)

Akzle

30th April 2016, 05:38

Yeah... I'm moderately miffed. It's the british in me I think.

i think we need to escalate that to "rather peeved" and you'll set fire to things...

oldrider

1st May 2016, 09:56

Like the direction this stupid world is heading in? - here's a few samples to ponder! :corn:

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Banditbandit

2nd May 2016, 15:45

i'm generally dissatisfied with the state of things.

Buddhists know that as Dukkha ... one of the Four Noble Truths ....

Akzle

2nd May 2016, 17:29

Buddhists know that as Dukkha ... one of the Four Noble Truths ....

i think you have too much faith in me

Banditbandit

2nd May 2016, 17:40

i think you have too much faith in me

Buddhism requires no faith .. in fact, faith is one of the major issues that Buddhism seeks to over-come ..

Akzle

2nd May 2016, 17:54

Buddhism requires no faith .. in fact, faith is one of the major issues that Buddhism seeks to over-come ..

i think you have too much faith in buddhism

Banditbandit

3rd May 2016, 13:18

i think you have too much faith in buddhism

:rofl:

I have no faith in Buddhism - I've seen what people do with it ..

Brian d marge

3rd May 2016, 15:24

:rofl:

I have no faith in Buddhism - I've seen what people do with it ..
I love buddism ....lovely and sticky

sent for a divine source

mashman

3rd May 2016, 15:57

:rofl:

I have no faith in Buddhism - I've seen what people do with it ..

People eh. Ruin everything ;)

mashman

4th May 2016, 08:53

EU to fine countries 'hundreds of millions of pounds' for refusing to take refugees (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/03/eu-to-fine-countries-that-refuse-refugee-quota/)

Brian d marge

4th May 2016, 14:43

EU to fine countries 'hundreds of millions of pounds' for refusing to take refugees (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/03/eu-to-fine-countries-that-refuse-refugee-quota/)

What about cashed up poms escaping England ????
Stephen

mashman

4th May 2016, 17:04

What about cashed up poms escaping England ????
Stephen

Ach, they're just emulating the Chineses.

Akzle

6th May 2016, 15:33

aha!

https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0000216105&owner=exclude&count=40&hidefilings=0

wait. wut?

mashman

6th May 2016, 16:57

aha!

https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0000216105&owner=exclude&count=40&hidefilings=0

wait. wut?

"C/O NEW ZEALAND DEBT MANAGEMENT OFFICE" :killingme

Brian d marge

8th May 2016, 23:27

here come the rumblings !

Several noted economists and distinguished investors are warning of a 50% stock market crash.
Billionaire Carl Icahn, for example, recently threw up a red flag on national broadcast when he declared, “The public is walking into a trap again as they did in 2007.”
Unfortunately, Icahn’s warning is tame compared to his peers.
“U.S. stocks are now about 80% overvalued,” says Andrew Smithers, the chairman of Smithers & Co. He backs up his prediction using a ratio which proves that the only time in history stocks were this risky was 1929 and 1999. And we all know what happened next. Stocks fell by 89% and 50%, respectively.
http://9639-presscdn-0-85.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Sandcastle.300x300.jpg (http://pro1.strategicinvestment.com/486729)This simple sandcastle analogy proves an economic collapse is imminent. Click here to see how… (http://pro1.strategicinvestment.com/486729)

Even the Royal Bank of Scotland says the markets are flashing stress alerts akin to the 2008 crisis. They told their clients to “Sell Everything” because “in a crowded hall, the exit doors are small.”
Stocks like Apple, will plunge.

mashman

9th May 2016, 08:50

here come the rumblings !

Even the Royal Bank of Scotland says the markets are flashing stress alerts akin to the 2008 crisis. They told their clients to “Sell Everything” because “in a crowded hall, the exit doors are small.”
Stocks like Apple, will plunge.

Ooooo, must be time for a debt jubilee.

Brian d marge

9th May 2016, 11:56

Ooooo, must be time for a debt jubilee.
You made a funny ....

Currency , trade then world war ..same as last time and the time before that and the time before that ....

sent for a divine source

mashman

9th May 2016, 17:54

You made a funny ....

Currency , trade then world war ..same as last time and the time before that and the time before that ....

sent for a divine source

Must have been an accident.

Ach, we can but try to avoid rinse and repeat :D

SPman

9th May 2016, 18:18

Buddhists know that as Dukkha ... one of the Four Noble Truths .... Isn't Dukkah what you dip olive oil soaked bread into and consume......qualifies as a noble truth anyhows.

Brian d marge

9th May 2016, 18:22

Isn't Dukkah what you dip olive oil soaked bread into and consume......qualifies as a noble truth anyhows.
It's a Polish football team ....

sent for a divine source

bogan

9th May 2016, 19:48

https://youtu.be/0Rnq1NpHdmw?t=14m39s

Banditbandit

10th May 2016, 11:38

Bwhahahahaha ...

http://yournewswire.com/

jonbuoy

10th May 2016, 22:28

Brian d marge

11th May 2016, 00:23

Good way to try and drive down the prices and create volatility- which a lot of investors love.
Good point

The opposite is true with gold ...

But we shall see

sent for a divine source

mashman

12th May 2016, 10:30

Yanis lays it all out there. I reckon I might enjoy that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Xeejewj3c

mashman

14th May 2016, 10:27

Brexit could cause house-price crash: IMF (https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/imf-warns-over-negative-impact-brexit-090404283.html). Games.

mashman

14th May 2016, 10:51

No tax cuts and spending down: English (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/31581024/no-tax-cuts-next-year/). Ooooo something new.

mashman

15th May 2016, 12:19

Deutsche Bank Confirms Silver Market Manipulation In Legal Settlement, Agrees To Expose Other Banks (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-14/case-closed-deutsche-bank-confirms-silver-market-manipulation-legal-settlement-agree)... a problem shared is a problem halved.

mashman

16th May 2016, 22:25

Nestlé Just Gained Control Over This Town’s Water for the Next 45 Years (http://usuncut.com/news/nestle-water-deal-fryeburg-maine/)... wonder if they get to defend the water with violence.

Revealed: New Zealand’s enormous 60-year, 25 million tonne illegal fishing lie (http://thespinoff.co.nz/media/16-05-2016/revealed-new-zealands-enormous-60-year-25-million-tonne-illegal-fishing-operation/#.VzkB8TRSq2c.twitter)... at least it ain't exhaust emissions.

oldrider

18th May 2016, 14:27

Another one of those false conspiracy leads we hear about in this stupid world? :scratch:

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carbonhed

18th May 2016, 15:28

Brian d marge

18th May 2016, 16:31

Jeremy Corbyn's favourite example of 21st century socialism continues on it's inexorable path....

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/05/venezuela-is-falling-apart/481755/?utm_source=atltw
Nothing to do with trade embargoes then .....all the fault of the corrupt socialist government

sent for a divine source

oldrider

18th May 2016, 16:54

Jeremy Corbyn's favourite example of 21st century socialism continues on it's inexorable path....

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/05/venezuela-is-falling-apart/481755/?utm_source=atltw

Might have something to do with this? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread853902/pg1

yokel

18th May 2016, 17:13

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/80122285/uk-university-forbids-throwing-mortarboards-in-the-air

"The University of East Anglia in Norwich said a number of graduates had been hurt by falling hats in recent years, "

"But students could have a mortarboard added digitally to photographs afterwards - £8 (NZ$17)."

Yip, the worlds getting stupider.

mashman

18th May 2016, 17:17

Jeremy Corbyn's favourite example of 21st century socialism continues on it's inexorable path....

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/05/venezuela-is-falling-apart/481755/?utm_source=atltw

Substitute coffee with toilet paper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA

Voltaire

18th May 2016, 21:41

The Economy Made Simple.
http://advrider.com/index.php?attachments/724-jpg.531159/

awa355

25th May 2016, 06:38

Laava

25th May 2016, 07:29

I see that Obama is doing his bit for world peace. The USA is lifting its embargo on arms sales to Vietnam. Next step will be military advisers to show them how to aim missiles at China, maybe?. Oops, that's been tried before.

Another boost to the American economy.

You spelt "oops" correctly. That is rare these days.

oldrider

25th May 2016, 10:24

I see that Obama is doing his bit for world peace. The USA is lifting its embargo on arms sales to Vietnam. Next step will be military advisers to show them how to aim missiles at China, maybe?. Oops, that's been tried before.

Another boost to the American economy.

Saw this on TV news and thought WTF haven't they had enough of America and that bullshit - who needs enemies with friends like the USA! (government that is)

Banditbandit

25th May 2016, 10:27

Saw this on TV news and thought WTF haven't they had enough of America and that bullshit - who needs enemies with friends like the USA! (government that is)

yeah .. but Vietnam WON the war remember - so they have the upper hand ..

Akzle

25th May 2016, 12:06

yeah .. but Vietnam WON the war remember - so they have the upper hand ..

errr, actually it wasn't a war as such. just a "conflict"

MURKA, hoo-rah!

Banditbandit

25th May 2016, 12:12

errr, actually it wasn't a war as such. just a "conflict"

MURKA, hoo-rah!

Wikipedia lists it as a war - so it must be true ... :innocent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

And Vietnam also calls it a war - and they won - the victors get to write history - it was a war ...

Calling it a "conflict" is an America-centric response ... shame on you .. .

Akzle

25th May 2016, 12:28

Wikipedia lists it as a war - so it must be true ... :innocent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

And Vietnam also calls it a war - and they won - the victors get to write history - it was a war ...

Calling it a "conflict" is an America-centric response ... shame on you .. .

weeeeeeel. the facts as related to me was that MURKA hoo-rah never declared war.... so.