Stupid World

[Kickaha]

Just seen on Xitter. Alex Navalney died following a COVID vaccination. That’s even crazier than the usual anti vax bollox.

Nobody dies from Natural causes anymore; everyone dies from the vaccine.

[pete376403]

Nobody dies from Natural causes anymore; everyone dies from the vaccine.

Sometimes they fall out of windows

[R650R]

Just seen on Xitter. Alex Navalney died following a COVID vaccination. That’s even crazier than the usual anti vax bollox.

Hehe I thought the other day of posting that as a joke cover the Russians might use. Russian prisons are brutal places though so either way it will be hard to prove what actually happened unless you were there.

And we have pages of quotes here saying one cannot contest a govts covid stats. If someone died and they were covid positive that’s a covid death, it’s in black and white record with our mainstream media. In fact the WHO is prob calling for a ceasefire so they can send Russia some new vaccines incase it’s a new variant.

Its pure conspiracy theory to allege navalny died any other way


On a side note isn’t it convenient that the world waited til after the pandemic before plunging into WW1 style trench warfare where sanitation and disease control would be very difficult.

Anyway while we are talking Russia this Carlson clip has a real kicker half way through comparing our society to what was happening before the Bolshevik revolution


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOs3DGD_D1o&pp=ygUbVHVja2VyIGNhcmxzb24gcGxhbmUgY3Jhc2gg

[R650R]

Boom!!! Called it like about ten years ago. This is why I’ve always hated QR codes and before that tiny url links. You can’t see the address your device is navigating to. Finally scammers are in on it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU_y85NlSeY&pp=ygUXV3IgY29kZXMgc2NzbXMgZmJpIGFiYyA%3D

[pritch]

Boom!!! Called it like about ten years ago. This is why I’ve always hated QR codes and before that tiny url links. You can’t see the address your device is navigating to. Finally scammers are in on it.


I've never seen a QR code on a parking building and can't imagine using it if I did. Having said that I used a QR code yesterday - first time in a while. It told me the month and year the whisky was bottled, the batch number, the number of bottles in the batch, and which bottle mine was within that. I only wanted to know the year but OK...

[pete376403]

Boom!!! Called it like about ten years ago. This is why I’ve always hated QR codes and before that tiny url links. You can’t see the address your device is navigating to. Finally scammers are in on it.

If expanding a tiny URL s beyond you maybe you should avoid them. It's not hard to expand a tiny URL

To unshorten the link:

Go to https://urlex.org/ Copy and paste the link into the text box. Press "Expand" The URLEX website will "expand" the shortened URL so that you can, after reviewing for appropriateness, go to the site.

Likewise with QR codes:
How do I preview a QR code URL?

Open the Google Lens application and select the image icon in the top right corner.
Open the image that you want to scan the QR code from.
Tap the QR code, and it will take you to the stored URL.

[R650R]

If expanding a tiny URL s beyond you maybe you should avoid them. It's not hard to expand a tiny URL

To unshorten the link:

Go to https://urlex.org/ Copy and paste the link into the text box. Press "Expand" The URLEX website will "expand" the shortened URL so that you can, after reviewing for appropriateness, go to the site.

Likewise with QR codes:
How do I preview a QR code URL?

Open the Google Lens application and select the image icon in the top right corner.
Open the image that you want to scan the QR code from.
Tap the QR code, and it will take you to the stored URL.

Thanks for that bit of info, however most people aren’t going to utilise that tool so my comment about risk still stands. And just look at the recent scams with NZTA where scammers were using fake website with very similar naming.

[pritch]

Slightly different topic. Y'all will be familiar with US Congress woman Marjorie Taylor Greene. She refused to wear a mask in Congress during COVID. The fine for a first offence was $500, subsequent offences 2,500. Those fines added up. Her fines totalled over $100,000. So Marg appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, claiming the deductions from her salary were illegal. Yesterday SCOTUS ruled that the deductions stand. Pardon my schadenfreude.

[husaberg]

Slightly different topic. Y'all will be familiar with US Congress woman Marjorie Taylor Greene. She refused to wear a mask in Congress during COVID. The fine for a first offence was $500, subsequent offences 2,500. Those fines added up. Her fines totalled over $100,000. So Marg appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, claiming the deductions from her salary were illegal. Yesterday SCOTUS ruled that the deductions stand. Pardon my schadenfreude.
Especially when Her salary is listed at $174K
Maybe Putin pays her enough...

[pritch]

In the wrong part of town wearing an expensive watch can be asking for trouble. For instance some people occasionally wear a fake Rolex leaving their Oyster Perpetual safe at home. The idea being that if they are mugged it's no great loss. It turns out that's not such a great idea.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13077595/He-didnt-deserve-die-like-Grieving-fianc-e-music-industry-boss-stabbed-death-gang-muggers-fake-10-watch-weeps-killers-jailed.html

[pritch]

New York AG Letitia James is running hot. La Pierre cops near US$4.5 million fine.

[pritch]

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree?

Tyler Boebert 18yo son of "the gentlelady from Colorado" Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, has been charged with a variety of offences arising from theft from vehicles and use of stolen credit cards. Interestingly he allegedly also made a sex tape with one of his co-offenders. The only female in this sad little group is underage so he may have more serious problems pending.

Both his mother and his father have rap sheets so I guess we could say it runs in the family. He is, however, innocent until proven guilty of course.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13142259/lauren-boebert-son-tyler-sex-tape-defendant.html

[pritch]

Congressman Ronny Jackson, formerly Admiral Jackson, Trump's White House doctor and he who rejoiced in the nickname "Candyman," has been reduced in rank by the US Navy to Captain. His behaviour while in the White House is the cause of his demotion which negatively impacts his pension to the tune of US$15,000 pa.

There is also a recent Rolling Stone article which sheds light on the drug abuse rife in Trump's White House under Jackson. The place was awash with speed and tranqs.

Americans are more generous with the title doctor than most places. Jackson would not be permitted to call himself a doctor in this country.

[R650R]

Everyone knows you don’t mess with cops in south east Asia.

The full story here includes lot of detail that our media chose to leave out.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2760128/2-new-zealanders-attack-phuket-traffic-policeman

No matter what was going down this has to be stupidest move ever….

[pritch]

Everyone knows you don’t mess with cops in south east Asia.

No matter what was going down this has to be stupidest move ever….

Messing with cops in South East Asia has been done but you do have to know what you are doing and be very fit. Of course it is better and safer not to.

It'd be interesting to know exactly what those two thought they were doing. It would seem they may have a long time in a Thai jail to reflect.

[FLUB]

It would seem they may have a long time in a Thai jail to reflect.

Daddy will buy them out of jail.

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[jim.cox]

Daddy will buy them out of jail.



Apparently attempted bribery is among the charges, so maybe not.

Suspect these boys are going to be made an example of, and wont be home for quite a while

"Aint no limit to dumb" as they say

[R650R]

A former inmate think he was a kiwi gave brief interview about jail/prison in Thailand.

You don’t get your own cell you share with about 15-20 people who you sleep on floor next to as there are no beds. You don’t get fed. Locals bring food to cell presumably only for those they know.
There are lots of rats and creep crawlers I guess that is food for some.

I hope they get hefty sentence I can’t think of anything worse a kiwi has done abroad to shame our nation amongst such a welcoming culture.


In other stupid news local police and fire are conducting an exercise downtown in large building. Of course many will find this interesting to observe as they pass through. But they are asking public to move on to help exercise conduct safely, surely it’s only helping to make it even more real.
Performance anxiety maybe…???

[pritch]

In other stupid news local police and fire are conducting an exercise downtown in large building.

Years ago the Police were involved in a combined anti terrorist exercise with the SAS. It was in an abandoned hospital if memory serves. The Police were aghast. Totally shocked. The SAS were kicking doors in. They were using explosive devices which left marks on the Lino. It was at that point that the Police should have realised that any anti terrorist training they had done to that point was utterly irrelevant and completely useless. Wouldn't want to bet on that though.

We have one professional anti terrorist organisation in this country - and it is not part of the police.

[R650R]

Years ago the Police were involved in a combined anti terrorist exercise with the SAS. It was in an abandoned hospital if memory serves. The Police were aghast. Totally shocked. The SAS were kicking doors in. They were using explosive devices which left marks on the Lino. It was at that point that the Police should have realised that any anti terrorist training they had done to that point was utterly irrelevant and completely useless. Wouldn't want to bet on that though.

We have one professional anti terrorist organisation in this country - and it is not part of the police.

It’s high time we lost our she’ll be right attitude and took security seriously in this country. The eco-nutters are getting increasingly militant and we have now created a whole generation that entirely believes we are killing ourselves and the planet with climate change.
The restore passenger rail nutters were given too much tolerance for too long so you have people out there who misguidedly think they can do anything if it’s just.
Couple that with diminishing job opportunities for those at lower end of scale soon you will have terrorist actions by green nutters against our infrastructure.
The worst part won’t be any lack of ability on police capacity but the political decision making in senior leadership that will delay appropriate response.
Lets not forget we gave up full time armed response cop cars in our crime ridden larger cities because it was offensive that they occasionally were involved dealing with lower level offenders.

[pritch]

In the US, in California in particular, squatters can be a problem. A serious problem, they just move in and change the locks. The Police won't respond to a call about squatters, so you have to start legal action which can take years, to get the squatters out. One lady had this problem so her son decided to help. Now he has started a business helping others in this situation.

It's really weird that he had to do this but here is how it works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySD3dzCP0MM

[Laava]

So America, has decided not to be Israel’s bitch anymore and Israel is not happy!

[pritch]

This is massive and tragic. The ship sent a mayday which enabled the authorities to close the bridge to traffic except for any vehicles already on the bridge and a maintenance crew.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68664664

Afterthoughts:

That mess is going to take some clearing. Baltimore is one of the biggest ports in the US. Every ship that's in there is stuck there, and no more ships can get in until the bridge wreckage is cleared. It being the US presumably they have big cranes on barges or whatever they'll need to clear it. It'll take some time to get the equipment there though. That bridge was part of the main road around Baltimore, very busy.

The bridge staff did well. They closed the bridge within 90 seconds of receiving the emergency call apparently.

The nut job conspiiracy theories are creative. One suggested the captain had been recently vaccinated and collapsed on the controls. Never mind the ship was under the control of the pilot at the time. It was a terrorist attack. It was illegal immigrants. It was caused by DEI (positive discrimination, hiring somebody female, black, or gay...) The most extraordinary one so far though, it was to distract us from the 'fact' that Katherine the Princess of Wales is currently being replaced by a body double.

[R650R]

https://joannenova.com.au/2024/03/misinformation-experts-are-almost-all-left-wing-and-they-want-to-censor-you/

“The “Misinformation Industry” has been caught with its pants down — accidentally finding, then burying, the information that nearly everyone in their own industry “leans left”.

This is a field that generated headlines about how conservatives are more susceptible to believing misinformation, and conservatives consume more Facebook disinformation. It would be awkward then if the whole field turned out to be leftist academics, and they tried to hide that, which is exactly what just happened.

The leading “journal” on misinformation surveyed 150 of its own academic experts, then forgot to mention that one of the most striking and significant results from their own survey was that being a “Misinformation Expert” was a left wing phenomena.”

[pritch]

https://joannenova.com.au/2024/03/misinformation-experts-are-almost-all-left-wing-and-they-want-to-censor-you/

“The “Misinformation Industry” has been caught with its pants down — accidentally finding, then burying, the information that nearly everyone in their own industry “leans left”.



That may well be true. After all, the misinformation mostly comes from the right.

[nerrrd]

The “Misinformation Industry” has been caught with its pants down — accidentally finding, then burying, the information that nearly everyone in their own industry “leans left”...

So why aren't 'right-leaning' people working in the industry? That's the real question.

Come on all you 'right-leaners', dust off your CVs already.

[pete376403]

https://joannenova.com.au/2024/03/misinformation-experts-are-almost-all-left-wing-and-they-want-to-censor-you/

“The “Misinformation Industry” has been caught with its pants down — accidentally finding, then burying, the information that nearly everyone in their own industry “leans left”.

This is a field that generated headlines about how conservatives are more susceptible to believing misinformation, and conservatives consume more Facebook disinformation. It would be awkward then if the whole field turned out to be leftist academics, and they tried to hide that, which is exactly what just happened.

The leading “journal” on misinformation surveyed 150 of its own academic experts, then forgot to mention that one of the most striking and significant results from their own survey was that being a “Misinformation Expert” was a left wing phenomena.”

Joanne Nova aka JoNova (real name Joanne Codling), born circa 1967, is an Australian right wing communicator who mainly writes to promote anti-science views of climate in books and a denialist weblog, joannenova.com.au. She has no evident academic background in climate science; her degree (B.Sc.) is in molecular biology.[1] Nova is based in Perth, Western Australia. https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Joanne_Nova

Nova runs the Australian company Science Speak,[2] the main aim of which is to promote AGW denialism.

For four years, Nova worked for the Shell Questacon Science Circus, based in Canberra, Australia. The Science Circus is an outreach program run by Questacon, the Australian National Science and Technology Centre. The program is sponsored by Shell Oil, with additional support from Australian National University. She has also worked for Foxtel, a cable television company part owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation.
That figures...
Codling (Nova) lives in Perth and denies temperatures are rising. Yet "The Swan Valley has set a new record for its hottest day ever as a heatwave grips Perth." https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/temperature-records-tumble-as-perth-s-east-cops-brunt-of-heatwave-20240201-p5f1qb.html

[R650R]

Unlike many media outlets Jo references all her sources and it’s not so much denials as exposing the lies and contradictions of the climate cult.
Often the climate cult talks about a consensus of scientists agreeing, hundreds have signed a letter etc….
If something is a scientificly proven it only needs two scientists to agree. The one producing the results and the one doing peer review who is able to repeat the same observations after experiment.
So if you want to talk about money, talk about scientists receiving climate research money paid by govts that benefit from the predetermined results.

Your right it is terrible that someone producing a form of news should be paid by one side of the debate. I’m mean the next most terrible thing would be for a govt to have a $50million slush fund paid only to journalists willing to report something based on certain criteria…

[R650R]

The Coming Electricity Crisis
The Editorial Board, The Wall Street Journal

Artificial-intelligence data centers and climate rules are pushing the power grid to what could become a breaking point.

AEP Ohio says new data centers and Intel’s $20 billion planned chip plant will increase strain on the grid. Chip factories and data centers can consume 100 times more power than a typical industrial business. … A new Micron chip factory in upstate New York is expected to require as much power by the 2040s as the states of New Hampshire and Vermont combined.

Electricity demand to power data centers is projected to increase by 13% to 15% compounded annually through 2030.

The shortage of power is already slowing the building of new data centres by up to six years. It’s so bad, Amazon just bought a 1,200 acre data warehouse right next to a nuclear plant so it can live off nuclear energy. The data center may use up to 960 MW of power, which would be nearly 40% of all the power provided by the nuclear plant.

It’s almost like the CCP is in charge of our electricity grids?
The green subsidies make the unreliable generators happy, but more unreliables in turn destroys the market for the reliable guys. There’s not much point running major capital infrastructure as a back up for a second rate generators. Not surprisingly, many of the essential generators are about to go off to grid-heaven forever and the new replacements are, as the bureaucrats say “not clearly identified” yet.

PJM Interconnection runs the wholesale power market on 13 US States. They latest report signals trouble coming according to the WSJ:

About 20 gigawatts of fossil-fuel power are scheduled to retire over the next two years—enough to power 15 million homes—including a large natural-gas plant in Massachusetts that serves as a crucial source of electricity in cold snaps. PJM’s external market monitor last week warned that up to 30% of the region’s installed capacity is at risk of retiring by 2030.

Meantime, the Inflation Reduction Act’s huge renewable subsidies make it harder for fossil-fuel and nuclear plants to compete in wholesale power markets. The cost of producing power from solar and wind is roughly the same as from natural gas. But IRA tax credits can offset up to 50% of the cost of renewable operators.

All the artificial intelligence arriving appears to be shining a light onto human stupidity.

Who could have guessed that if we subsidize unreliable generators we would get an unreliable grid?

[husaberg]

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/images/2024.01.16/chart2.svg

:msn-wink:

[R650R]

Some pretty cool engineering analysis of a problem that is probably the root cause of many wind turbine fails/fires

https://www.malloywind.com/articles/false-brinelling

The Washington Post, a big fan of the “Green transition”, puts in an admirable effort to make excuses for the bad luck of the wind industry — anything but admit that this failure may represent real mechanical limits to the collection of erratic, low density energy in the most hostile settings on Earth.

These machines are so fragile they cannot just sit under their own weight motionless, less they get permanent brinelling damage to the bearings. And tiny micro-oscillations can create False Brinelling.

…the Siemens Gamesa wind business moved too fast and has now discovered abnormal vibrations arising from blades and bearings which may have to be replaced.

While the affected models represent only 4% of its installed fleet, the direct costs of the fix are estimated at €1.6 billion. The company faces further unexpected expenses related to ramping up production of offshore turbines, as well as unfavorable tax effects. Bernstein Research analyst Nicholas Green has evocatively dubbed the moment Turbinegeddon.

Shares fell dramatically six weeks ago when the problems were first announced and after more information, and a long hard think — have not recovered at all.

[pritch]

A hospital administrator stole the identity of a co worker and ran up a couple of hundred thousand in loans. When the victim became aware off the problem he complained but was arrested and locked up in jail and in a mental health facility.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndia/pr/former-hospital-administrator-pleads-guilty-identity-theft-scheme-spanned-three

[pritch]

Republicans in Congress have commenced a move to rename Dulles International Airport in DC to Trump International. Democrats have responded by a move to rename a prison in Texas after Trump. The latter seems more appropriate.

[pritch]

Some dude running amok in Sydney stabbing people. It seems he brought a knife to a gunfight though.

[pritch]

Marjorie Taylor Greene had stated that if House Speaker Mike Johnson permitted a vote on aid to Ukraine she would move to remove him as Speaker. He did permit the vote, it passed, and so far nothing.

There are a number of congressmen retiring before the November election. Apparently some of the Republican retirees have announced their intention to leave immediately if Mad Marge carried out her threat. That would hand the majority in the House to the Democrats and Hakeem Jeffries would be Speaker.

Marge in an interview has said she did not enter Congress to damage the Republican majority. It seems she got the message. They've all gone home for a week now.
No doubt the plot will thicken.

[R650R]

From 2billion value to zero. Another major failure in EV marketplace

https://thedriven.io/2024/04/19/australia-ev-fast-charging-tritium-says-it-is-insolvent-appoints-administrators/




Only one year ago the Prime Minister of Australia was raving about them, and using Tritium as the posterchild to sell his new $15 billion “National Reconstruction Fund” to “build sovereign capability”.

During his visit, the Prime Minister said, “This is my third visit to Tritium. Every time I come back, I hear about more revenue, more jobs being created, and more countries where Australia is exporting to. This is a great success story here and I congratulate everyone at Tritium for their achievements.”

Nick Bonyhady and Tom Rabe at The Australian Financial Review point at energy prices:

A Nasdaq-listed electric vehicle fast-charger company hailed first as a Queensland success story and then as a justification for government subsidies is the second major Australian manufacturer to collapse this week.

Tritium’s demise comes just days after Australia’s largest plastics producer, Qenos, was placed into administration, and as an industry chief warns that rising east coast gas prices will continue to threaten a range of domestic manufacturing across the country.

In 2021 Australia was the world’s largest exporter of LNG but in a quest for climate purity we’ve banned so many exploration sites, and pursued so many stupid energy options we are about to start importing gas.

” Gas industry leaders have labelled “bizarre” and unbelievable the likelihood that Australia could soon start importing gas.”

Daniel Mercer, ABC

Peter Tinley [MP] said it made no sense for states to ban the practice of fracking to develop onshore gas reserves while also allowing the import of offshore supplies that were exploited using the same method.

Victoria has banned fracking through legislation since 2017.

“I find it ironic that some jurisdictions ban fracking, for example, but will eventually be importing fracked gas,” Mr Tinley told the Australian Domestic Gas Outlook conference in Sydney. “How do you correlate that?

[pritch]

A mini rant if I may...

There are many clips on YouTube detailing encounters between US citizenry and law enforcement. It seems the initial reaction of a cop is to request ID. In most states though a person does not have to provide ID or any other information unless being arrested. The police though do not like their request being refused and the more simple minded cops then arrest the person for obstruction. This may lead to a lawsuit costing the cops employers a large sum.

The most ironic thing about this, however, is when the cops arrest somebody for refusing to answer questions they have to read them their rights. "You have the right to remain silent..." The actual meaning of those seven words eludes the cops completely, even as they say them out loud while arresting someone for exercising their right to remain silent.

[onearmedbandit]

I've seen a few of those too, often I feel sorry for the cop as a lot of these citizens are goading the police, but the cop is the professional and needs to know the laws they are upholding or applying.

[pritch]

I've seen a few of those too, often I feel sorry for the cop as a lot of these citizens are goading the police, but the cop is the professional and needs to know the laws they are upholding or applying.

True. There's a brilliant example on Elon's X. Two blokes in a work vehicle are stopped at a Border Patrol check point. All they had to do was reply that they were US citizens. One of the pair starts shouting about his Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendment rights. Nobody ever proclaimed their right to remain silent so loudly. Of course it ends badly.

A search on X for 'border patrol arrest' finds it. You might need to scroll down past several other clips but when the relevant clip starts it shows the driver in an orange T shirt.

[R650R]

Quite the first world problem isn’t it. Weird given the most basic human interaction with a stranger is to say hello and introduce yoursel, how can I help you?
If people realised how much intel they are giving away for free to international corporations via phone apps and technology with no real safe guards it makes it absurd to worry about giving a cop your name.
Although I do get the imposing impersonal nature of it having witnessed the departure of count to ten with say your name and address into random breat.h tests.

On our local police fakebook page something new was announced and of course the anti police brigade was in there with usual comments. It seems popular to demand cops wear body cams, I wonder what those people’s reactions were if general public were asked/mandated to wear body cams???

[nerrrd]

So I hear the latest AI development from Google is, instead of searches returning links to websites, the AI is going to scrape the information from those sites and then present the search results to you in a custom webpage.

So bang goes another business model, since a lot fewer people will need to visit an actual website (and see the advertisements).

On top of that, they've now made the AI models much more 'human-like' in their responses, so when they give people incorrect information (which they are still regularly doing) they at least sound convincing.

What could possibly go wrong.

[R650R]

So I hear the latest AI development from Google is, instead of searches returning links to websites, the AI is going to scrape the information from those sites and then present the search results to you in a custom webpage.

So bang goes another business model, since a lot fewer people will need to visit an actual website (and see the advertisements).

On top of that, they've now made the AI models much more 'human-like' in their responses, so when they give people incorrect information (which they are still regularly doing) they at least sound convincing.

What could possibly go wrong.

Well for starters it’s a short jump from there to Minority Report style thought crime being arrested before you’ve even thought about robbing the bank.

A couple weeks ago YouTube shifted to near mandatory sign in as I predicted in an earlier post. I’ve found a method to circumvent it but I need to do a previous search to generate content I’m likely to watch. Also the buggets have massively upped the ad content length and quantity.

Jerry Seinfeld made a great comment about AI and Human race at his recent university speech(the one where 30 terrorist sympathisers were thrown out and hundreds stayed to listen to him
Speak)
“We’re smart enough to design AI, dumb enough to need it and stupid enough to think it will work out ok.”

[pritch]

For some days the Arizona Attorney General's office have been trying to serve former NY Mayor and well known bankrupt Rudy Giuliani with a summons to answer charges related to election fraud. Giuliani has been making it difficult. Last night our time though Rudy threw an eightieth birthday bash which included posts on Twitter and other social media. And yes, the party was attended by representatives of the Arizona AG's office. Job done.

[pritch]

Close but no prize.

[onearmedbandit]

I'm surprised it didn't read "Speak American'...

[husaberg]

For some days the Arizona Attorney General's office have been trying to serve former NY Mayor and well known bankrupt Rudy Giuliani with a summons to answer charges related to election fraud. Giuliani has been making it difficult. Last night our time though Rudy threw an eightieth birthday bash which included posts on Twitter and other social media. And yes, the party was attended by representatives of the Arizona AG's office. Job done.
An update on that story is he allegedly posted something gloating about how they only had so many hours to serve him...
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/rudy-giuliani-claims-he-tipped-off-arizona-agents-trying-to-serve-him-indictment-papers-despite-gloating-online-about-evading-them
https://i.redd.it/87igm0ijl71d1.jpeg

[husaberg]

In other news R650R's hero Alex Jones s officially f-ed.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2024/06/alex-jones-agrees-to-liquidate-his-assets-to-pay-sandy-hook-families.html

[onearmedbandit]

Could not have happened to a more deserving specimen.

[pritch]

An update on that story is he allegedly posted something gloating about how they only had so many hours to serve him...


Saw that at the time but I didn't know what he was talking about. Neither did he apparently.

[R650R]

Govt doing its best at being govt agency.

An absolute critical piece of national infrastructure under threat and oh we can’t close the road to fix it straight away because someone that wants to use the road might take us to court!!!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350314363/crucial-rail-corridor-risk-unstable-hamilton-street

This is the kind of stuff National and ACT said they would get on top of, let’s see if they act on it…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350314363/crucial-rail-corridor-risk-unstable-hamilton-street

[R650R]

The war in Ukraine highlighted perils of globalisation(we kinda need their fertilizer and gas).
Now it gets worse. Sanctions against China means key knowledge holders are now going home.
Some pretty interest points outlined in this vid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=ADBYqHkJl1eHtJhF&v=M9d-o0uPE9I&feature=youtu.be

On the plus side Chinese motorbikes are likely to rapidly improve in tech and reliability…

[R650R]

Green Party doing what it does best….

I must say “mp/party not aware of staffers actions” is right up there with John keys “I don’t recall”

https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/350314795/how-green-mps-hit-trouble-their-own-cycleway/?utm_source=stuff_article&utm_medium=referral

[pritch]

Interesting little corruption story out of the UK. The British bookmakers take bets on the future date of an election. It transpires they also monitor betting patterns. There was a sudden flurry of bets on the date of the election and amazingly they were all winners. This warranted investigation as to who these people were. One is a political advisor to the Prime Minister, others are Tory MPs or candidates, there are also a number are Metropolitan Police officers.

The Met are now investigating whether a crime has been committed.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/25/election-betting-fifth-tory-investigated-in-growing-scandal

[pritch]

This is not something I can comment on directly as I didn't see it. There was reportedly some sort of a performance during the opening ceremony enacting scenes from Greek mythology and featuring Bacchus and Co. This being the Olympics and Mt Olympus being in Greece after all. That performance has been widely interpreted in the US of A to have been a blasphemous take on the last supper. What relevance the last supper would have to the Olympics hasn't been adequately explained but there is ample evidence on social media that the Christo fascists are offended.

[pritch]

A man named Stephan Fischer (sp?) has a smallish off road four wheeler website in Australia. He undertook a long term test of a battery brand and published his findings.
He is now being sued for defamation by the company. It is more complicated than that though, the company claims they are not taking action against him but he has court papers listing the company as plaintiff.

Y'all will be familiar with the Streisand effect and if you were wondering where you might find an example this could be it.

I was wondering what Mr Cadogan would make of it and he has not let me down. His YouTube comment contains links to the original site and to the other main site of relevance. It is worth the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUA1I_oMNl4

[Laava]

This is not something I can comment on directly as I didn't see it. There was reportedly some sort of a performance during the opening ceremony enacting scenes from Greek mythology and featuring Bacchus and Co. This being the Olympics and Mt Olympus being in Greece after all. That performance has been widely interpreted in the US of A to have been a blasphemous take on the last supper. What relevance the last supper would have to the Olympics hasn't been adequately explained but there is ample evidence on social media that the Christo fascists are offended.
Lols, big deal, some jesus freaks are getting their snowflake on!

[Pursang]

.......the Christo fascists are offended.

This is not a High Bar.....and therefore definitely not an official Olympic event.

Still, Kudos to France for flipping the bird to the Small World view!

[nerrrd]

I’ve noticed on my walks that Auckland Transport is spending thousands (millions?? I hope not) of dollars installing mini arrival and departure screens (like at the airport) at local bus stops.

My question is what practical use is knowing when the bus is going to get there when you’re already at the bus stop that makes it worth spending that amount of money?

I can understand it’s important information to have available, say, in an app on your phone which you have with you when you’re not at the bus stop, or trying to get to the stop in time to catch the bus.

The world makes no sense anymore.

[pritch]

My question is what practical use is knowing when the bus is going to get there when you’re already at the bus stop that makes it worth spending that amount of money?


Sometimes the vagaries of roadworks or traffic congestion mean that the bus timetable becomes a work of fiction. If the new signs reflect what is happening in real time that would be of value. Otherwise not so much.

[nerrrd]

Sometimes the vagaries of roadworks or traffic congestion mean that the bus timetable becomes a work of fiction. If the new signs reflect what is happening in real time that would be of value. Otherwise not so much.

Agreed, surely something these days which is better handled by notifications on an app for the majority of users.

They’ve also spent the last month turning the intersection of Mt Eden and Balmoral Roads into some kind of hub with 2 metre-tall fancy back-lit signs and new curbs and footpaths, but functionally, so far it’s exactly the same as before.

Why some paint on the road and a shelter isn’t enough anymore is beyond me.

[pete376403]

IÂ’ve noticed on my walks that Auckland Transport is spending thousands (millions?? I hope not) of dollars installing mini arrival and departure screens (like at the airport) at local bus stops.

My question is what practical use is knowing when the bus is going to get there when youÂ’re already at the bus stop that makes it worth spending that amount of money?

I can understand itÂ’s important information to have available, say, in an app on your phone which you have with you when youÂ’re not at the bus stop, or trying to get to the stop in time to catch the bus.

The world makes no sense anymore.


If AT can spend $32000 building a bus stop in Great Barrier Island (which doesn't have public transport) nothing else they do is surprising. https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/sk85a7/auckland_transport_builds_32000_bus_stop_on_an/

[pete376403]

And again. AT spending $40,000 on cameras to monitor the car parking at Claris Airport (also Great barrier island), Apparently there are about 1200 cars in total on the island.
https://aoteagbi.news/2024/08/02/parking-cameras-coming-to-claris-airport/

[husaberg]

The war in Ukraine highlighted perils of globalisation(we kinda need their fertilizer and gas).
Now it gets worse. Sanctions against China means key knowledge holders are now going home.
Some pretty interest points outlined in this vid

On the plus side Chinese motorbikes are likely to rapidly improve in tech and reliability…

Weren't you the guy that claimed Russia would never invade ukraine.
yet now you claim to be an expert...,.
It does seem a little odd....



Russia won’t invade anyway. There troops on border are like patched gang members sitting in a car in street while the prospects go do dirty work and collect debts.
There has been substantial internal skirmishes going on for a long time by rebel groups, many think Ukraine really is still pretty much Russia absent post Cold War changes. Funny how when yanks do same with cia interfering in other countries no one says anything...,,

[pritch]

There are reports that the FBI have executed a search warrant on the house of Congressman Andy Ogles (R) Tennessee. It's thought that this may involve hundreds of thousand of dollars worth of fraudulent "campaign contributions" but so far the FBI haven't said.

[pritch]

The rioters in Britain are stupid and not just because the reason for the riot was nonsense. One guy was wearing a balaclava to conceal his identity but he did have a large distinctive tattoo and if you have a large tat you have show it off don't you? Busted.

There is another guy pictured looting three stores at least while wearing an England shirt with a huge red cross. Someone spotted a recent photo of him leaving court with his name in the caption. His new free Apple goodies may prove very costly.

There was a tweet on X from a guy sympathetic to the rioter's cause. He was whinging 'cause they smashed his windows too. Tough.

The establishment are probably doing a rain dance but meantime they do have special measures for rioters. It's normal for those charged to be remanded in custody for however long it takes.

[Laava]

It was a typical protest tho. Probably most of the people there are looking for excitement above all. These guys will have no problems provoking the police, the muslims, anyone opposed to them being there. So it is a touchpaper waiting for a spark. The other thing happening in the UK is that the jails are already more than full…so they may be reluctant to just slap everyone inside…
It seems to me that the UK needs to close the doors to these muslim asylum seekers. The guys that are leaving are the very people that should be staying in their own country and making it a better place. Winston had the suggestion here that we take in the women and kids and send the men back to sort their own country out so their family can return in time…
I know I am generalising but I have been to a few muslim countries and would hate for that to happen here, or in the UK but that is actually happening.

[Pursang]

I don't know why on-line marketers keep promoting these to me?

https://img.kwcdn.com/product/Fancyalgo/VirtualModelMatting/9a0753bcd92cc639f290571fcab51a69.jpg?imageView2/2/w/650/q/50/format/webp

I've already got one...had it for years!

[sugilite]

I don't know why on-line marketers keep promoting these to me?

https://img.kwcdn.com/product/Fancyalgo/VirtualModelMatting/9a0753bcd92cc639f290571fcab51a69.jpg?imageView2/2/w/650/q/50/format/webp

I've already got one...had it for years!

That looks super secure, both a button and velcro!

[neels]

The current Nat govt trying to fix something a previous Nat govt fucked.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350392000/three-things-government-says-will-help-make-power-cheaper

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/electricity-reform-way-forward

[pritch]

Y'all will have noticed that a super yacht sank with loss of life in the Mediterranean. The CEO of the designer/builder was very quick to blame the skipper, a kiwi.

This YouTube channel is generally well informed on yachting matters and his explanations are better than most I've seen. The company claims the yacht was "unsinkable." Where have we heard that before? It would seem though that the design figures very much suggest otherwise. One public comment suggests that if you walked around any marina you'd be unlikely to see another boat with lower figures.

The yacht had a retractable keel. The press are making news of the fact the keel was up when the boat sank. In port the keel would be retracted but normally the keel would be retracted unless the sails were up or the ship was more than a specified distance offshore.

This clip goes into some of the design figures but not enough to cause drowsiness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGULtQjJrvQ&t=604s

This clip gets straight into the figures and is easily understandable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEJbyuH-t7E

[pritch]

It seems Raheem Stierling, Manchester City FC, sent his car to the valet with his payslip in it. He won't do that again.

[R650R]

Well that didn’t take long. I cant remember where I originally posted about the potential but here we are, scammers using QR codes to steal your data/banking details/access.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350416267/new-qr-code-scam-may-be-its-way-police

“with scammers hoping to make people curious enough to scan the QR code.
“The QR code allows the offenders to then access any and all data on your phone or device you used to scan the code, including financial information such as your bank account login details, and personal data,” police wrote.
Police urged people to be vigilant and to resist the urge to scan the QR code. ”

[pritch]

The Mayor of New York has been indicted on criminal charges related to corruption. Associates of the Mayor have had their homes raided by the FBI.


https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/529114/new-york-city-mayor-adams-indicted-following-corruption-probe-report

[pritch]

Rudy Giuliani who made himself somewhat of a hero after 9/11, "the nation's mayor," has now been disbarred in Washington DC. He is already disbarred in his home state New York. He is being sued for unpaid legal bills but everything he owns and a whole lot more is already owed to Ruby Freeman and her daughter.

it's difficult to imagine a more dramatic fall from grace and all in support of Donald J Trump.

[R650R]

On paper it probably seemed like a good idea at the time. Once again though a green ideologically driven project ends up failing at great cost.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/09/30/the-green-new-folly-how-virtue-signaling-killed-a-ferry-and-wasted-millions/comment-page-2/

Whole article quite a good read but basically solar panels acted like a sail that overwhelmed ferry. Guidance cables not up to added load and pile driving new support columns in ecological area not popular idea. Chap that bought old diesel ferry for £17,000 got to sell it back to them for £100,000.

[pritch]

You will all no doubt have noticed that we are once again in Nobel Prize season. You may or may not be aware that there is no Nobel Prize for mathematics. Or why some people consider that to be the case.

The story goes that Mr Nobel suspected, or knew, that one of the foremost mathematicians of the day was having it off with a lady in whom Nobel had an interest and there was no way Nobel wanted him winning one of the new prizes. The only way he could ensure that never happened was to exclude mathematics from the list of prizes.

Unfortunately we can’t know if that’s the gospel truth but I’m small minded enough to find the story mildly amusing.

[R650R]

The Cobra Effect, we see this in so many of our own govt policies…

I like a quote near the end-“The last three decades of western govts have mostly been about replacing what actually worked with what sounded good”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLIP1ScHUg

[pritch]

This doesn't really belong here but it doesn't deserve its own thread so this'll do.

Was talking to a biker yesterday and he was saying there is a mass gathering of patched bikers this weekend. All sorts, from Killer Bees to Patriots. He said they are all out to make the most of the last weekend they can ride patched legally. The new law must come into effect 1 November apparently.

[R650R]

This doesn't really belong here but it doesn't deserve its own thread so this'll do.

Was talking to a biker yesterday and he was saying there is a mass gathering of patched bikers this weekend. All sorts, from Killer Bees to Patriots. He said they are all out to make the most of the last weekend they can ride patched legally. The new law must come into effect 1 November apparently.

It seems Ulysses club didn’t make the prescribed list as feared in Dave’s thread, scroll down to schedule 2

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2024/0023/10.0/whole.html

[R650R]

As usual the govt has stuffed it up
“8 Exceptions to prohibition
Section 7 does not apply if the display of gang insignia in a public place—
(a)
was for or relates to—
(i)
a genuine artistic or educational purpose:
(ii)
media reporting of news, observations on news, or current affairs:
(iii)
the broadcast of a documentary:
(iv)
law enforcement:
(v)
providing training or information to persons carrying out work for a government agency or local authority; and
(b)
was, in the circumstances, reasonable for that purpose.”

So all they have to do is to frequently engage with media for interviews or perhaps take a VERY long time to film a documentary of club lifestyle etc. Lawyets going to be busy….

[Grumph]

Do the Mothers still put on a day at Manfield ?

That used to be well supported so I was told.

[pritch]

Strange times when Iran is the sensible world citizen and Israel are the nutters risking WWIII.

[jellywrestler]

Do the Mothers still put on a day at Manfield ?

That used to be well supported so I was told.

they are no longer an entity

[Laava]

Strange times when Iran is the sensible world citizen and Israel are the nutters risking WWIII.
Do you think they might light up some hypersonics? Iran I mean.

[nerrrd]

Do you think they might light up some hypersonics? Iran I mean.

Seems to me like they’re trying very hard not to give the current Israeli government what they want, namely an excuse to escalate things even further.

[R650R]

Strange times when Iran is the sensible world citizen and Israel are the nutters risking WWIII.

It’s seems everyone is a student of Tsun Zu these days. For those who’ve not read it’s about choosing the time and place of battle and making your strengths and weakness appear as opposites to your enemy.
All war is bad let’s hope everyone comes to their senses. The one thing saving the world is the eastern culture of trade being number one. Their economies do not profit from war like us in the west.

[husaberg]

It’s seems everyone is a student of Tsun Zu these days. For those who’ve not read it’s about choosing the time and place of battle and making your strengths and weakness appear as opposites to your enemy.
All war is bad let’s hope everyone comes to their senses. The one thing saving the world is the eastern culture of trade being number one. Their economies do not profit from war like us in the west.
So just How much is your old favorite Vlad Putin benefiting from the war at the moment then.

that said..





Russia won’t invade anyway. There troops on border are like patched gang members sitting in a car in street while the prospects go do dirty work and collect debts.
,,

Many people don't understand the Russian military doctrine. They are very smart and don't play the same gameplan as the west.Russia is all about defence, they have seen the economic and military disaster that the Americans have created for themselves, heaps of expensive overseas bases with resupply issues.
Russia will never invade anyone, they will provide very rapid support for chosen allies in a massive no nonsense manner.
They have spent over 400 billion in last ten years modernising their armed forces. Stories of decay are same propaganda plants as the ones about usa F35 being a lemon etc.....
Watch ISIS turn and run, no CIA paycheck is big enough for them to face the Russian war machine, they will quickly fall apart with out American resupply. Guess they'll be a whole lot of Toyota hilux's going cheap soon....


While western media has championed international mercenaries going to fight for Ukraine it seems Russia is going to play that card too... we all know what they will be called...Quite ironic that western security will be threatened by a mechanism they helped build....
The resulting lawless bloodbath will prob see Russia welcomed in as peacekeepers.. we all should have seen this coming...
After all this blows over Eastern Europe will end up as a haven for unemployed terrorists like Afghanistan.... maybe Putin has done his homework after all...4Dchess????
The plot thickens....

[R650R]

Man buys $35k Harley trike.
Man crashes Harley and injures girlfriend after it veers off road unexpectedly when brakes lock them selves.
Man gets bike repaired for $25k, claims bike faulty Harley says no.
Harley issues recall for very similar thing.
Man has recall done.
Man crashes same way again but girlfriend dies this time.
Man asks harley for 53k medical costs, they decline.
Man sues harley gets awarded 290 million!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjuLtFpOq3w

[pritch]

Been watching videos featuring the down town areas in British cities almost totally boarded up. The comments refer to the advent of new super stores as the cause, you park your car and can buy almost anything you'll need at the one huge shop. I think Brexit may also be a major contributor to the malaise. The boards are indicative of minimal economic activity. Britain is a self inflicted economic basket case. The last remaining steel works in Britain is closing and that was a predicted Brexit outcome.

Closer to home for us, big motorcycle dealerships are closing and that can't be attributed to the new superstores. When I first became interested in bikes a typical arrangement was the owner was salesman, bookkeeper, parts guy, and mechanic. The only other staff member was the apprentice. These days there may be a receptionist, office lady, salesman or men, parts guy or girl, and a team of mechanics. That needs a high level of business to be profitable. If money stops coming in the costs escalate quickly.

In Britain big dealerships are failing: Sheffield Motorcycles has closed, Kawasaki Colchester closes at Christmas. Three major dealership chains have entered administration. The overall mood is very depressed. Articles are appearing on the death of motor cycling. That may be too extreme but at least we can understand why.

I hope it isn't contagious.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2024/october/motorcycle-dealership-administration-concerns/

[R650R]

I think the world is still trying to stagger to its feet after the economic damage of virus/lockdowns/war. That combination has pushed done big changes in work practices, disrupted supply chains and driven costs up. And on top of climate hysteria insurance companies reaming us deep as they can get away with.
Meanwhile in the background China whose top people we trained in our technologies at our universities are now doing there own thing and pushing ahead in a lower wage economy. To top it off they practically own the world supply chain.
Yes brexit it prob had an effect but we’ve been idling in our research, restricting our growth with safety and climate concerns while China has the foot to the floor drifting burnouts in front of us.

Anyhow motorcycling has mostly been a luxury addition to our lifestyles with it always being slightly more expensive if your buying the good gear and good tyres compared to a car. But now everything costs a lot more and cars built ten years ago can fairly well match a big bikes fuel use unless you ride like a complete nana.Everyones making sacrifices and it prob doesn’t take many sales losses for over stocked dealerships to suffer.

[roogazza]

I don't feel like I have many more years of riding sadly. But hey at 75 I reckon I've had a great run starting in 1965.
I wave to other bikes still, all the time, but waves back are getting fewer .

Maybe we bought bikes for different reasons back then, (like cheap transport ?)

But if you are honest, NZ racing is fading as well ?

60 years riding for me so far and I consider myself bloody lucky.
Make the most of it fellas' it's been a fun generation to live in.
:mellow::confused:<_<:msn-wink::rolleyes:

[pritch]

I don't feel like I have many more years of riding sadly. But hey at 75 I reckon I've had a great run starting in 1965.


We can lower our sights? Just came cross a YouTube channel from a man of somewhat mature years. He tours Britain on Yamaha YB100/XSR125. He picks his routes and outings to suit his bikes. We may need to slow down but we don't have to stop. I find 300cc scooters are gaining in appeal.

[Berries]

I wave to other bikes still, all the time, but waves back are getting fewer.
Try waving at the riders instead grandad.

[Laava]

We have an 88yr old riding a BMW750GS in our group. We were all watching some geezer on an electric trike trickling past at one of our stops and he said, "that'll be all of us when we get older" 😂😂😂😂 fucking classic!

[R650R]

I don't feel like I have many more years of riding sadly. But hey at 75 I reckon I've had a great run starting in 1965.
I wave to other bikes still, all the time, but waves back are getting fewer .

Maybe we bought bikes for different reasons back then, (like cheap transport ?)

But if you are honest, NZ racing is fading as well ?

60 years riding for me so far and I consider myself bloody lucky.
Make the most of it fellas' it's been a fun generation to live in.
:mellow::confused:<_<:msn-wink::rolleyes:

I got an itchy boots style wave from another ride couple weeks ago (full arm extend welcome to Liberia!)
Gave me a chuckle as I imagined her voice saying welcome to the fertiliser works we were passing.
Kill them with kindness keep waving, same for saying hello walking to shops or working in front garden.

[pritch]

Alex Jones' Info Wars business was auctioned off as part of his bankruptcy settlement in favour of the Sandy Hook parents. The successful bidder? The Onion.

Doncha just love it?

[onearmedbandit]

Alex Jones' Info Wars business was auctioned off as part of his bankruptcy settlement in favour of the Sandy Hook parents. The successful bidder? The Onion.

Doncha just love it?

Hahahaha saw that, apparently he's none too happy. Good.

[pritch]

The YouTube algorithms are sending me clips of economists and others warning about the US economy becoming unstable. It is rocketing along at present. Just fast enough to trigger warnings. In a marginally unstable condition the economy is not in a good state to withstand heavy handed amateurs like Musk or Trump.

[R650R]

The YouTube algorithms are sending me clips of economists and others warning about the US economy becoming unstable. It is rocketing along at present. Just fast enough to trigger warnings. In a marginally unstable condition the economy is not in a good state to withstand heavy handed amateurs like Musk or Trump.

In that case you’ve prob been seeing the BRICS stuff. USA used to be the big dominant economy of the world but there are only 330million people.They are quickly making them selves irrelevant no matter who is in charge when China alone is a 1.4 billion people market but are hooking up with likes of Russia,India and Brazil plus many more.
Very soon America won’t be dictating others economic choices if they want their own economy to stay afloat.
Interesting side note China is using its surplus US dollar holdings to prop up a new digital currency this creating. Clever move as it gives them economic redundancy and helps mai rain a relationship of sorts with USA.

[pete376403]

In that case you’ve prob been seeing the BRICS stuff. USA used to be the big dominant economy of the world but there are only 330million people.They are quickly making them selves irrelevant no matter who is in charge when China alone is a 1.4 billion people market but are hooking up with likes of Russia,India and Brazil plus many more.
Very soon America won’t be dictating others economic choices if they want their own economy to stay afloat.
Interesting side note China is using its surplus US dollar holdings to prop up a new digital currency this creating. Clever move as it gives them economic redundancy and helps mai rain a relationship of sorts with USA.

trump imagines tariffs will hurt China. Last time he tried this with soybeans, repeating events of his first term, Washington then spent tens of billions of dollars to ease the pain on the agriculture sector.https://rollcall.com/2024/11/14/trumps-tariffs-seen-delivering-a-repeat-blow-to-us-farm-exports/

Also "Soybeans took the biggest hit — $9.4 billion annualized — and in the absence of U.S. supply Brazil gained about $4 billion in agricultural export to China in 2018. The losses were felt primarily in Midwestern states like Iowa, Illinois and Kansas."

States which overwhelmingly voted for trump.

[pritch]

trump imagines tariffs will hurt China. Last time he tried this with soybeans, repeating events of his first term, Washington then spent tens of billions of dollars to ease the pain on the agriculture sector.https://rollcall.com/2024/11/14/trumps-tariffs-seen-delivering-a-repeat-blow-to-us-farm-exports/

Also "Soybeans took the biggest hit — $9.4 billion annualized — and in the absence of U.S. supply Brazil gained about $4 billion in agricultural export to China in 2018. The losses were felt primarily in Midwestern states like Iowa, Illinois and Kansas."

States which overwhelmingly voted for trump.

Apart from sourcing their requirements from elsewhere thereby causing the US to lose foreign exchange and their farmers to have silos full of produce nobody wanted, the Chinese targeted their responses. For instance they put a tariff on chocolate. The biggest producer of chocolate in the US is in Kentucky and the senior senator from Kentucky was Mitch McConnell, leader of the Senate.

Trump said trade wars were easy to win. He was right. China had an easy win.

[R650R]

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-runs-low-on-air-defense-missiles-as-demand-surges-7fc9370c

America is running low on interceptor missiles. Let’s just make some more… er no it’s not that easy.

It seems the USA manufacturers aren’t keen on building extra production facilities or hiring more staff unless they know there is a long term commitment to buy at higher numbers.

In another article China is implementing export controls in December 1st on dual use materials that can be used in weapons production. China controls 90% of global magnesium and 80% of tungsten. So expect high end motorcycles and anything that is welded to increase in price or be in short supply.

[pritch]

In another article China is implementing export controls in December 1st on dual use materials that can be used in weapons production. China controls 90% of global magnesium and 80% of tungsten. So expect high end motorcycles and anything that is welded to increase in price or be in short supply.

Neither tungsten nor magnesium should affect road bikes too much.

[pritch]

A couple of decades ago - and a bit? A then young social worker suggested at a conference that in the event a child was to be registered with a silly name at the Registrar of Births, Oranga Tamariki should be notified. People looked at him as if he had two heads. His idea didn't catch on. Since then though people with silly names have been over represented in the court reports.

Today the IPCA ruled that the shooting of Kaoss Price was unjustified. The officer had a taser and should have used that instead of a gun apparently. One report referred to the shooting as taking place "in Waitara". The photos of the makeshift memorial though show the location as out of town on SH3, the area surrounded by farms. In town it ain't. The situation for a cop facing a gang member nutting off by a country road in the dark is very different to sitting in an office in Wellington conducting a review of the incident. Prosecution was not recommended. All things considered then the result seems fair. Well about as fair as these things get.

When Kaoss was shot his father had to be released from prison to attend the funeral. My thought was that the guy never really had chance. On TV tonight his mum and grandma were interviewed. Mention was made of his kids but not of his wife. Nor of his dad. The press asked if the family will be taking legal action, which plants the idea. Sadly the press didn't then ask how this potential litigation would be funded.

Hopefully that's the end of a tragic incident. Wouldn't bet on it though.

[BMWST?]

I don't feel like I have many more years of riding sadly. But hey at 75 I reckon I've had a great run starting in 1965.
I wave to other bikes still, all the time, but waves back are getting fewer .

Maybe we bought bikes for different reasons back then, (like cheap transport ?)

But if you are honest, NZ racing is fading as well ?

60 years riding for me so far and I consider myself bloody lucky.
Make the most of it fellas' it's been a fun generation to live in.
:mellow::confused:<_<:msn-wink::rolleyes:
my first bike was a $650 honda Cl175.It was a year old I think. The only car i could aford was a 650 dollar 1950 s something English Ford

[Grumph]

Neither tungsten nor magnesium should affect road bikes too much.

Tungsten will affect manufacturing. Anything chewed out on CNC equipment likely uses Tungsten Carbide cutting tips.

[onearmedbandit]

Stupid Alex Jones...

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[pritch]

The ICC having issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu, various shills are crying that it must be anti semitisim. In Israel Netanyahu is facing charges of breach of trust, accepting bribes and fraud. Apparently the Israeli justice system is anti semitic too?

[pritch]

Y’all may or may not be aware of the antics of Johnny Somali. That’s his alias. He is one of those loathsome cretins who “create content”. For some time he has been travelling outside the US. In Japan he faced charges for breaking various laws in search of his content. He apologised and as far as the judge was aware he was a first time offender so he escaped meaningful punishment. He is banned from entering Japan for five years.

Next he went to Israel where he started out by filming himself making inappropriate comments to and about female IDF/Police personnel. That got him a visit from police.

Currently he is in South Korea where he has broken a raft of laws. This is all available on YouTube. His behaviour in Korea has reached new lows though. Such that Korean YouTubers have been seeking him out to attack him. A former Korean Navy diver decked him in front of Police so was arrested. Public donations to this hero were apparently immediate and generous.

The low point? There are a series of statues in Korea to commemorate the “comfort women.” Women the Japanese took as sex slaves for their troops. One of the statues is of a thirteen year old girl who was used thus. Somali took his shirt off, smeared baby oil on himself and the statue and cavorted about suggestively. Korean people were shouting at him to stop but of course Somali doesn’t understand Korean.

People are adding up the maximum penalties for his various offences and talking about thirty years in the big house. That’s not realistic but the Korean Police are aware of what happened in Japan so a judge is unlikely to be as impressed by another meaningless apology and will be aware that he is far from a first time offender..

https://www.dexerto.com/youtube/johnny-somali-south-korea-drama-explained-2978443/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxzO4sxjyGI

[R650R]

Whoever knew you could make an insurance claim for stone chips???

Chap in Herald needs a 16k paint job for his Holden after being sprayed by other vehicles at roadworks.I always thought it was just fair wear and tear in our third world road network. I wonder how much the rest of us are paying in premiums for these finicky owners????

No wonder our premiums are so high.

[onearmedbandit]

I know this is selected clips but still...

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[onearmedbandit]

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Australia has just as much fun with supermarkets as we do.

[R650R]

Australia has just as much fun with supermarkets as we do.

A variety of factors means it’s not going to get better in a hurry too. With current population trends, during next 20 years the world must produce the same amount of food it has in the entire last 10,000 years again.
I don’t think anyone needs reminding the the worlds largest piece of fertile land is at war with the largest fertilizer producer.
The world needs to learn to play nicely in a hurry.

[pritch]

Been seeing clips referencing United Healthcare in the US. Stories of claims being denied and of frustrated doctors. There has apparently also been serious fraud. Whether it was a frustrated claimant or an upset investor, it's a wonder nobody had shot that prick earlier. Whatever, it did look like a professional job.

[Laava]

Someone sent in the cleaners.

[sugilite]

Been seeing clips referencing United Healthcare in the US. Stories of claims being denied and of frustrated doctors. There has apparently also been serious fraud. Whether it was a frustrated claimant or an upset investor, it's a wonder nobody had shot that prick earlier. Whatever, it did look like a professional job.

They have a photo of the assassins face now, he is stuffed.

[Berries]

Australia has just as much fun with supermarkets as we do.
Nah. While we have dog food in rolls in the fridge like bits of luncheon meat they have Coon cheese.

No contest.

[pritch]

Tha Assad regime in Syria appears to have fallen. That was swift and surprising, not least for Assad. My sympathies to Tulsi Gabbard, Trumps Director of Intelligence, in this her time of loss.

[R650R]

Tha Assad regime in Syria appears to have fallen. That was swift and surprising, not least for Assad. My sympathies to Tulsi Gabbard, Trumps Director of Intelligence, in this her time of loss.

A power vacuum in that area won’t be great for anyone though. Thousands of isis and al queda rebels with nothing left to do. Will be interesting to see how it all looks after the dust settles.
I guess post occupied Iraq could be a bellwether for what to expect.

[Berries]

Assad day all round.

[sugilite]

Malaysia be hummin

https://thesun.my/opinion-news/take-action-against-unruly-motorcyclists-GH13411564

[pritch]

Not sure if y'all are aware but there is currently some mass hysteria in the north eastern US about unidentified drones. Considering the great quality cameras virtually everybody has in their phones the photos of these drones tend to be blurred. Fully equal in quality to shots of Big Foot or flying saucers. Until now. A photograph of a large mystery drone on a truck with the caption,
"Breaking News: Crashed drone in Orange Beach retrieved from water, and taken to undisclosed location for further investigation."

To you and me it's obviously a replica Star Wars TIE fighter and as it happens it's not in the US, it's in the Phillipines,. Senator Doug Mastriano who posted it on X is not big on detail. Mastriano is a twat.

I'd have posted a pic of the TIE fighter on the truck but KB doesn't permit me to post screenshots. Unlike Mastriano though, I'm confident KBers know would know a TIE fighter when they saw one.

[pritch]

Malaysia be hummin

https://thesun.my/opinion-news/take-action-against-unruly-motorcyclists-GH13411564

ATGATT would only slow them down.

[Berries]

I'd have posted a pic of the TIE fighter on the truck but KB doesn't permit me to post screenshots.
WTF?

Had a great Thai ladyboy fighter photo to post here and it won't let me.

[pete376403]

Malaysia be hummin

https://thesun.my/opinion-news/take-action-against-unruly-motorcyclists-GH13411564

Not like there is any shortage, but... Malaysia records an average of 16 motorcyclist deaths daily, amounting to 112 fatalities each week

[Katman]

Tha Assad regime in Syria appears to have fallen. That was swift and surprising, not least for Assad.

Another win for the Greater Israel Project.

[pritch]

Mrs Assad who married for better or worse appears to have decided it was just for better. She reportedly wants a divorce, life in Moscow is not to her liking, she'd like to return to the UK. She holds British and Syrian citizenship but some officials have said she is not welcome in Britain.

The divorce is story is from Arabic and Turkish sources. Moscow deny it. Take your pick.

[Katman]

She holds British and Syrian citizenship but some officials have said she is not welcome in Britain.

Isn't it funny how her and her husband were welcomed into Buckingham Palace not that long ago.

[Grumph]

Mrs Assad who married for better or worse appears to have decided it was just for better. She reportedly wants a divorce, life in Moscow is not to her liking, she'd like to return to the UK. She holds British and Syrian citizenship but some officials have said she is not welcome in Britain.

The divorce is story is from Arabic and Turkish sources. Moscow deny it. Take your pick.

Reputedly, she has leukemia.

[Grumph]

Isn't it funny how her and her husband were welcomed into Buckingham Palace not that long ago.

Isn't it funny how this gets blamed on the royals - when it would have been at the request of the Foreign Office.

Not that long ago on whose terms ? 2002 according to google. The world has changed a lot in 22 years.

[pritch]

Cheerful thought. Just listening to a former British politician and he says Russia had a selection of satchel sized nuclear devices in their arsenal. The devices are not where they are supposed to be and nobody knows where they are.

Just in case you couldn't think of anything to worry about?

[husaberg]

Cheerful thought. Just listening to a former British politician and he says Russia had a selection of satchel sized nuclear devices in their arsenal. The devices are not where they are supposed to be and nobody knows where they are.

Just in case you couldn't think of anything to worry about?

Didn't Prigozhin try and pick up a few of those?

[Katman]

Just listening to a former British politician and he says Russia had a selection of satchel sized nuclear devices in their arsenal.

Israel had those back in 2001.:whistle:

[pritch]

Israel had those back in 2001.:whistle:

Presumably Israel still know where theirs are? Unlike Russia.

[Katman]

Presumably Israel still know where theirs are?

I think they used theirs.

[pritch]

A victim of the New Orleans attack who suffered 'multiple fractures' and who still had a bullet in her foot requested a leave of absence from the Amazon warehouse where she worked. Her request was denied. Naturally this attracted media attention. Amazon have now reconsidered and said she can have leave with pay.


https://www.msn.com/en-nz/public-safety-and-emergencies/health-and-safety-alerts/amazon-denies-new-orleans-truck-attack-victim-s-request-for-leave-of-absence-report/ar-AA1wUZ1e

[onearmedbandit]

Definitely on topic, that sums up 'Stupid World' with great accuracy.

[R650R]

A victim of the New Orleans attack who suffered 'multiple fractures' and who still had a bullet in her foot requested a leave of absence from the Amazon warehouse where she worked. Her request was denied. Naturally this attracted media attention. Amazon have now reconsidered and said she can have leave with pay.


https://www.msn.com/en-nz/public-safety-and-emergencies/health-and-safety-alerts/amazon-denies-new-orleans-truck-attack-victim-s-request-for-leave-of-absence-report/ar-AA1wUZ1e

Big companies like Amazon it’s prob an automated online process. Despite USA lifestyle there prob isn’t a box to tick for special leave due to being shot at. Other story’s mention she selected wrong option. While it sounds shocking it’s also easy to understand how it would happen. News outlets know this but it’s much better to capitalise on mega corporate envy of their profits for a clickbsit story.

[pete376403]

Big companies like Amazon it’s prob an automated online process. Despite USA lifestyle there prob isn’t a box to tick for special leave due to being shot at. Other story’s mention she selected wrong option. While it sounds shocking it’s also easy to understand how it would happen. News outlets know this but it’s much better to capitalise on mega corporate envy of their profits for a clickbsit story.


Would you be making the same excuses if the event happened in a nominally "socialist" country, eg Finland or another Scandinavian country? Too hard to admit that Amazon is completely profit driven, from Bezos down, to the exclusion of reasonable employment policies?

[Katman]

Too hard to admit that Amazon is completely profit driven, from Bezos down, to the exclusion of reasonable employment policies?

But just let anyone dare suggest that the pharmaceutical industry is profit driven.

[pritch]

Big companies like Amazon it’s prob an automated online process. Despite USA lifestyle there prob isn’t a box to tick for special leave due to being shot at. Other story’s mention she selected wrong option. While it sounds shocking it’s also easy to understand how it would happen. News outlets know this but it’s much better to capitalise on mega corporate envy of their profits for a clickbsit story.

There has been quite a bit written about the Dickensian working conditions at Amazon. The whole thing is automated and the people are treated like part of a machine. There is a strict time limit to retrieve each item ordered, if you speak to another staff member it's instant dismissal, the schedule for the delivery drivers is so tight that they reportedly pee in a bottle to keep to the schedule. Amazon's usual response is to say it's not them it's the contractor, but of course the contractor wouldn't have the contract unless they met Amazon's conditions.

[onearmedbandit]

But just let anyone dare suggest that the pharmaceutical industry is profit driven.

I don't know, I think a lot people (at least those I've ever discussed it with) are fully onboard that that industry is profit driven. All businesses are by definition. I just think most people realise we are essentially stuck with that model (and arguably we have to be, no one is doing it for charity or purely the betterment of mankind).

[Katman]

(and arguably we have to be, no one is doing it for charity or purely the betterment of mankind).

Human health shouldn't be something that's governed by profit.

It should be governed by what is good for the health of humanity.

[TheDemonLord]

Would you be making the same excuses if the event happened in a nominally "socialist" country, eg Finland or another Scandinavian country? Too hard to admit that Amazon is completely profit driven, from Bezos down, to the exclusion of reasonable employment policies?

Social Democracies are not Socialist.

[onearmedbandit]

Human health shouldn't be something that's governed by profit.

It should be governed by what is good for the health of humanity.

That would be nice. But where does the money come from for the research, the development, the infrastructure?

[Katman]

That would be nice. But where does the money come from for the research, the development, the infrastructure?

I'd happily see my taxes go towards that ideal.

[onearmedbandit]

I'd happily see my taxes go towards that ideal.

As would many others. And many others would not. Already there are lots of people struggling financially, covering all healthcare related costs from taxation would break many of them.

[TheDemonLord]

Human health shouldn't be something that's governed by profit.

It should be governed by what is good for the health of humanity.

A Laudible goal - but there are a number of inherent problems:

The moment you are asking someone else to do something, there is an exchange of resources - whether that is Money, physical items or even just someone elses Time - these are all finite and as such need to be paid for.

One look at the migration of Doctors and Nurses out of NZ to Australia shows that at the individual level, if people do not feel they are being paid their worth, they will go elsewhere.

When you say Governeed by what is good for the Health of Humanity - one could easily take actions such as:

- Banning just about everything fun in this world
- Calorie restrictions for people
- Mandated Exercise regimine

etc.

How many here can say they are at the correct weight for their height, that they exercise regularly in-line with the best Health advise, dont smoke, limit their alcohol consumption to the recommended levels, dont engage in risky behavior etc.

Many of us, will incur usage of the Health Care system - not by random chance - but as a direct consequence of our own life choices. Who should pay for our choices.

Which leads to a 3rd point - If there is no penalty for abuse of a system, it will get abused. This can take two different forms:

Imagine a person who has a condition that is being caused or agrievated by their actions, if they have to pay the full cost of treatment, they are self-motivated to remedy their behavior.

The most dedicated people at brushing their teeth are the ones who have had to pay large Dentist bills...

Imagine now a Mental Health question - the expansion of conditions and specifically conditions that need funded treatment has been very noticeable over the last 2 decades. This is not to say this is necessarily a bad thing - as this has meant that some people who previously were unable to properly function in society have gotten access to what they need to be productive members of society. It has also meant that people who are dissatisfied with their lives (and traditionally would have turned to religion or an OE to find themselves) - now have a number of self-diagnosed conditions that need treatment.

A small barrier to entry to ensure that only those who really need the assistance are seeking it - is not necessarily a bad thing.

[TheDemonLord]

I'd happily see my taxes go towards that ideal.

So would all the Consultants, Middle Managers, Service providers and everyone else who gets in on a Government funded Gravy Train.

[Katman]

As would many others. And many others would not. Already there are lots of people struggling financially, covering all healthcare related costs from taxation would break many of them.

Imagine what could be achieved if there was total accountability for our taxes that the government currently collect and spend.

[Katman]

And in respect of health care, I'm very much looking forward to seeing what Robert F Kennedy Jr might bring about.

Maybe he might chart a course that the rest of the world sees fit to follow.

[onearmedbandit]

Imagine what could be achieved if there was total accountability for our taxes that the government currently collect and spend.

You'd think that would be a given right. Stupid world indeed.

[R650R]

Would you be making the same excuses if the event happened in a nominally "socialist" country, eg Finland or another Scandinavian country? Too hard to admit that Amazon is completely profit driven, from Bezos down, to the exclusion of reasonable employment policies?

Nothing to do with politics itÂ’s just nature of how bigger companies operate these days, even in NZ this type of stuff is coming as technology make it easy.
You donÂ’t have to be right wing to be a billionaire just ask Taylor Swift, George Soros, Steven Spielberg, Tom Steyer, Bill GatesÂ…..

Btw a quick google of Swedish furniture giant IkeÂ’s reveals allÂ’s not rosey there at times and perhaps as enjoyable as assembling flat pack without reading the instructions

https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/company-profile/ikea-ltd

[pritch]

The Pulitzer Prize winning editorial cartoonist at the Washington Post produced this cartoon. Bezos didn't like it and it wasn't published, the cartoonist resigned. Principled people are going to be feeling the pressure for the next four years.

[jim.cox]

Bezos didn't like it and it wasn't published

Now it has gone viral worldwide, many many more people have seen it, far more than just the WashPot subscription base. Stupid Bezos

[TheDemonLord]

Now it has gone viral worldwide, many many more people have seen it, far more than just the WashPot subscription base. Stupid Bezos

The Streisand effect is real.

[R650R]

CEO of major tech company just smashed all the others with a few words wiping out millions of dollars investments. Most of everyone’s retirement funds/kiwisaver plans will have money in some of these places.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/quantum-computing-stocks-drop-nvidia-005300972.html

On the plus side it means it delays the AI robot takeover of jobs somewhat…

[pritch]

Y'all will no doubt remember the guy who having read of Hillary Clinton running a child sex ring in the basement of a pizza place grabbed his AR15 and went to see for himself. Obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed. Seems he grabbed his gun once too often.

[Laava]

Assuming that is true, I hope he didn't breed first. GFJ.

[husaberg]

Y'all will no doubt remember the guy who having read of Hillary Clinton running a child sex ring in the basement of a pizza place grabbed his AR15 and went to see for himself. Obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed. Seems he grabbed his gun once too often.



Assuming that is true, I hope he didn't breed first. GFJ.
Well, he seems pretty stupid, So what's the bet the conspiracy nutters on the site will still claim he was killed because"he clearly knew too much":msn-wink:
Maybe he was very smart compared to other "conspiracy religious cult members"

[mashman]

Chinese AI chatbot DeepSeek sends shares in US tech firms plummeting (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qw7z2v1pgo)... lol... just lol... and a hey nonny no. Better is worse it seems.

[Laava]

Thought I would park this here. Hope it doesn't upset those with "inquiring" minds too much…
oh, and just so you know, I did all this research myself. You're welcome.

[onearmedbandit]

$241m spent on 'transgender animal testing' (and it's believed that's the floor, not the ceiling...)

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[R650R]

If you ever wanted evidence dogs can understand what we say just look at how uncomfortable that puppy gets listening to it!!! And ol Fauci involved too, well guess he got bored…

[pritch]

Most of you will be aware that Trump has said he will declassify some secret documents such as those relating to the assassination of President Kennedy. He was notably less keen on declassifying the Epstein files.

Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna (R) Florida, has seized the opportunity. She believes there was a second shooter and wants to open a Congressional inquiry into the assassination of President Kennedy. She wants to interview the "attending physicians" and the signatories to the Warren Report. The assassination took place in 1963 but the significance of this date seems to have escaped Ms Luna. Only one of the signatories to the Warren Report survived into the twenty first century but he died nearly twenty years ago.

Is she planning on using a Ouija board?

[pritch]

It seems Pam Bondi Attorney General of the Unites States of America recently appointed by Trump, although a lawyer she does not understand the difference between criminal charges and initiating a civil action. No criminal charges have been filed against any of those she mentions. We knew she was corrupt. We didn't know she was stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N1Jt1MaGhO8

[onearmedbandit]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360582522/shark-bites-tourists-hands-she-tries-take-selfie-caribbean-beach

Because, why not huh. They looked real friendly in 'Finding Nemo'...

[Laava]

So it is ok to bite the hand that is not feeding. That has been cleared up thanks.

[R650R]

Apparently there’s a thing planned for Feb 28 where you’re not supposed to buy anything in real life or online to send a message to the big corporations.

Of course this was pasted on FB, a 1.78 trillion dollar company that keeps 82% of pure profit from the advertising it presents to users.

Placing yourself under financial house arrest for 24hrs… priceless for everything else there’s Mastercard 🤣😀🤣😀🤣

[pritch]

When your 'bright' ideas come back to bite you on the arse.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OZtuQCQu86k

[onearmedbandit]

While I definitely agree that preferred pronouns should not be compelled speech, he should should've been smarter than to respond in the manner he did. Mind you, intelligence was never a prerequisite for a career in politics.

[pritch]

Interesting clip I saw this morning. The Brit equivalent of our Tax Payers Union claimed that the British government had wasted 8 Billion pounds on "woke" projects. A fact checking organisation looked at the figure and spotted an error. They weren't interested in questioning which projects were woke and which weren't, just a very large mathematical error. The actual amount spent on the woke projects was ten million pounds.

The spokesnman for the fact checking orgniataion said that people have trouble grasping the significance of large sums of money. He said it helps to change the money to units off time such as seconds. He said ten million seconds is 4 months. Eight billion seconds is 250 years.

That's one Hell of an error.

[onearmedbandit]

Good god. I posted a link from facebook a couple days ago about the so called bio labs in the South Island. I won't go into any detail but the person who shared it on their facebook page posted another today, and curiousity got the better of me. Wow....just wow. I dare you to look at some of the comments. Once again, no need to log in to see this.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BVcYy6Ybm/


I watched frame by frame, many times. From memory i found over 100 discrepancies.
I also know it was done by 3 people, mossad was involved, as was the clinton foundation.
My conclusion is by far more believable than the official one, put hundreds of hours into ivestigating.

[Laava]

That is pretty fucked up. Hopefully they will go full public with that and get prosecuted. Sadly tho, that will only convince them more. Cunts like this should have a cow dropped on them from height.

[Berries]

The Air Force have been doing that for years for target practice, it is cheaper than dummy bombs.

The farmers try and complain as they lose so much stock but Fonterra are actually an SIS front so their dairy payout drops if they talk too much. If they keep stirring then false flag rumours of foot and mouth get dropped to the media and eventually they are forced out of the industry.

It's all out there if you read between the lines.

Apparently they sound like a Stuka when they pass through 1,500 feet.

[R650R]

A bunch of nz university students are upset at getting AI presented lectures instead of a real professor.
Of course none of them have ever used chatGPT to finish an assignment hehe

What they are missing though is they are on the wrong course. If AI knows enough about a subject to teach the human, the humans knowledge is worthless by the time they enter the workforce as the real world AI will have updated itself far more than the human could.

Time to re enrol into a subject that needs human interaction in its final delivery in the workforce

[pritch]

Good god. I posted a link from facebook a couple days ago about the so called bio labs in the South Island. I won't go into any detail but the person who shared it on their facebook page posted another today, and curiousity got the better of me. Wow....just wow. I dare you to look at some of the comments. Once again, no need to log in to see this.



Incredible. Some time back I learned that there were people on Telegram who were discussing 'executing' NZ politicians and journalists that had displeased them. I was unaware that there was so much insanity on Facebook. Out in the open, for all to see.

[Laava]

I am ashamed now for my suggestion of dropping a cow on someone. I need to rethink my life…

[neels]

I am ashamed now for my suggestion of dropping a cow on someone. I need to rethink my life…
To be fair, there are some who are deserving of bovine intervention.

Death threats to people just because they made a decision or published something you didn't like is a completely different herd of cattle.

[pritch]

This clip is about a town hall meeting in Idaho. A predominantly Republican area, they don't want Californians bring in their lefty woke ideas. The guy with the mic and the sheriff are both from California though. The sheriff is the guy in the baseball cap.

Following the fracas in which a woman, who has run for political office as a Democrat is dragged out, there were consequences for some. She was charged but the charges were dropped. The security company that supplied their staff, who wore no unidentification, lost its licence to operate. The sheriff who instigated events? Crickets. Until now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NJAj4hsJQs

[pritch]

Strange times we live in. Yesterday I found myself defending RFK jr online. He wants to eliminate chemical food colourings in the US. Most Americans know RFK JR is insane so they have tended to assume this is just another of his idiot schemes. I’ve attempted to convince them it is not. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

[pritch]

This is a new problem locally. There used to be just the one rough sleeper. He could often be could be seen sitting in the library near a sunny window in the morning.
Now we have multiples and they are building cardboard constructions in the street? How many of these people are teens doing this as a 'lifestyle choice' I don't know, but the city needs to move quickly and find these people a better arrangement. Councils though do not tend to be light on their feet.

In Cologne there was a new modern art museum built which incorporated a lengthy verandah. Perfect for the homeless and the intravenous drug users, not all of whom were overly concerned about disposal of their personal waste. Every morning at sparrow fart the Fire Department arrives and hoses the area down. The various nightly visitors still use the place but at least it's spic and span when the tourists arrive to visit the adjacent cathedral.

Something like that might work here?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360615147/new-plymouth-rough-sleepers-warned-remove-their-belongings-or-risk-them-being-impounded

[nerrrd]

This is a new problem locally. There used to be just the one rough sleeper. He could often be could be seen sitting in the library near a sunny window in the morning.
Now we have multiples and they are building cardboard constructions in the street? How many of these people are teens doing this as a 'lifestyle choice' I don't know, but the city needs to move quickly and find these people a better arrangement. Councils though do not tend to be light on their feet.

In Cologne there was a new modern art museum built which incorporated a lengthy verandah. Perfect for the homeless and the intravenous drug users, not all of whom were overly concerned about disposal of their personal waste. Every morning at sparrow fart the Fire Department arrives and hoses the area down. The various nightly visitors still use the place but at least it's spic and span when the tourists arrive to visit the adjacent cathedral.

Something like that might work here?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360615147/new-plymouth-rough-sleepers-warned-remove-their-belongings-or-risk-them-being-impounded

I've been passing by a local homeless person on my daily walks, he's usually pushing a trolley along and acting in a way which implies he's not all there for whatever reason, but he's not abusive that I've seen. Watched him crossing Mt Eden Rd last night (one of the main arterials in Central Auckland) and all the traffic gave him plenty of room but he was clearly annoyed by them and kicking out with one foot while pushing the trolley (he picked one of the steepest bits so gravity was slowing him down a bit).

No groups so far in my suburb, but I've regularly seen individuals sleeping in local parks and in the doorways of local shops. I also drive regularly into the CBD and along Federal St which has the City Mission building backing on to it, there's a lot of rough looking people around there too but they look as though they're getting some support. Interestingly there's some kind of Police presence there as well, I think in the long run that's where the new Central Police Station is going.

Hard to see why anyone would choose that lifestyle but I guess everyone has their own story.

[R650R]

It’s easy to forget in short history our population has near doubled while costs of living are off the chart and housing availability plummeting due to policies by all govts.
I buy one of the older chaps a pie and a cold drink now and then as he has decency to say a polite hello to people rather than demand stuff.its good karma too as it could be easier than you think to end up in that position.
We have dozens in bay that sleep on beach or in their cars, they don’t cause anyone a problem.
Yes the odd one or two prob could just “ go get a job” but for ones that have trouble dealing with the system or getting a bank account etc the services to help them are lacking in ease of access.
It will get exponentially worse before govt ever comes up with a meaningful solution as automation and AI take away more traditional jobs.

[TheDemonLord]

Hard to see why anyone would choose that lifestyle but I guess everyone has their own story.

Most habitually homeless people have a history of undiagnosed mental illness and a lot try to self-medicate with substances.

There are a few 'regulars' around here.

Most are harmless enough, on their good days.

The problem is on their bad days. One gentleman will sit and yell incoherently, whilst whacking his head - and it can be quite scary, because you don't know what is going on up there and whether or not someone else could be the target of whatever is troubling them.

As such, it is not so much that they choose that lifestyle, it is that they lack the necessary pre-requisites to live in a house.

Do we chuck them in an early 90s era Insane Asylum and leave them to rot, possibly subject to well-intentioned, but in hindsight horrific medical procedures?

Do we leave them be to live their lives as they see fit?

In Pritch's post there is a line that I feel needs to be emphasized:


not all of whom were overly concerned about disposal of their personal waste

That is a big reason for why many people see the Homeless as a problem or nuissance. I don't want to walk along streets smelling like Piss and shit... and I especially don't want my children walking in areas covered in human piss and shit.

It is a tricky issue with no good options.

[nerrrd]

I buy one of the older chaps a pie and a cold drink now and then as he has decency to say a polite hello to people rather than demand stuff.its good karma too as it could be easier than you think to end up in that position..

Good on you for doing that and I feel the same way, there are a few times looking back where if I hadn't had family help, I'm not sure I could have gotten myself out of difficulty.


As such, it is not so much that they choose that lifestyle, it is that they lack the necessary pre-requisites to live in a house.

...

Do we leave them be to live their lives as they see fit?

...

It is a tricky issue with no good options.

Yes we seem to be forever searching for solutions to a lot of social problems and not finding any. I think fundamentally the problem is despite appearances, people are not all the same, and there's no system that works for everybody.

[TheDemonLord]

Yes we seem to be forever searching for solutions to a lot of social problems and not finding any. I think fundamentally the problem is despite appearances, people are not all the same, and there's no system that works for everybody.

I mean, obviously people are not all the same, I think the deeper problem is that as society becomes more complex and we move further from an extended familial/tribal existence - that some people are not capable of living in a modern society.

And that is a really prickly problem to think about.

[nerrrd]

Maybe we look forward to a (dystopian?) future of AI social workers for everyone, each one specifically tailored to an individuals needs and personality...like having a helpful voice inside your head, only this one's real. Except it isn't. What could go wrong?

[R650R]

Perhaps this is what Trump was alluding to when he joked with Starmer that they can’t look after themselves without USA.Pretty damning.

This guy has done some great historical military vids and analysis for awhile but some interesting critical pieces in recent times of that state of western preparedness.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Z0Y-mFMBk

[husaberg]

Perhaps this is what Trump was alluding to when he joked with Starmer that they can’t look after themselves without USA.Pretty damning.

This guy has done some great historical military vids and analysis for awhile but some interesting critical pieces in recent times of that state of western preparedness.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Z0Y-mFMBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAZQvZg2qRU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKRjUS2rS7U
That stuff started back in the 1960s with the cancellation of the britsh "super harrier" and TSR 2etc in favour of the UK modded phantom etc

But trumps leveraging idea... it will likely backfire, as its clear now by the US electing loon like him and then his unpredictable behaviour and his favouritism of non allies.
Relying on the US is not worth the lower cost compared to the pain. It will simply force the UK to team up with France to develop their own stuff.
its the same if the US uses its veto on the GE engines for the Grippen to Canada, it will simply move people away from US products.

The US's biggest export to NZ last year was gas turbines. I assume for a power station but they are not the only country that makes them.

but still way ahead of the Russian navy
https://preview.redd.it/8d4y7z5nx1n81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&a37fb274https://recyclenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/K-55-side.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFOnaes8jbsx1B6PmLHIpSeeDcC9TdQ WfxZw&shttps://i.insider.com/5a67654200d0ef97028b4b50?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webphttps://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1370972/subamrine-graveyard.jpg

[pritch]

Perhaps this is what Trump was alluding to when he joked with Starmer that they can’t look after themselves without USA.Pretty damning.

This guy has done some great historical military vids and analysis for awhile but some interesting critical pieces in recent times of that state of western preparedness.



That might not be quite as bad as it appears if you take into account the Russian polystyrene jet fighters, the tanks with blocks of wood for reactive armour, and similarly the individual armour plates supplied to soldiers being made of wood.

[R650R]

That might not be quite as bad as it appears if you take into account the Russian polystyrene jet fighters, the tanks with blocks of wood for reactive armour, and similarly the individual armour plates supplied to soldiers being made of wood.

An interesting concept when you think about reactive armour on both sides. Even if it works it’s bad news. It means the enemy has zeroed in your position. Could be it’s really just some kind of placebo immunity pill to get the modern soldier into combat.
Wonder if any studies have been done on effectiveness or if there have been enough full on peer adversary battles to get enough data.
Bit like airbags and crumple zones on modern cars, so much safer in principle yet a big enough hit and she’s all over. At least in a car crash there’s generally not another one coming straight at you in following minutes.

[pritch]

Congress woman Marjorie Taylor Greene is stupid and nasty with it. She outdoes herself with her message on the death of the pope though.

[pritch]

It would seem that the Senator has pissed off the retired Colonel.

[pritch]

Brent Terhune's take on an American pope.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3iASXxe1x94

[TheDemonLord]

On a different note:

India vs Pakistan.

What's everyone's feelings on this?

[Berries]

Without Wasim Akram Pakistan are shit.

[sugilite]

Would not of happened under biden. As soon as big daddy left the room, the boys started a game of rough and tumble :oi-grr:

[R650R]

Would not of happened under biden. As soon as big daddy left the room, the boys started a game of rough and tumble :oi-grr:

10/10 gave me a chuckle. Reminds me funny left right meme seen recently. “Give us all your guns if saves just one life it’s worth it - Ok send back all illegal immigrsnts if ut saves just one life it’s worth it”. So many political arguments can go both ways, guess why it’s so entertaining

[R650R]

On a different note:

India vs Pakistan.

What's everyone's feelings on this?

Not really done any research but bombing “terrorists” on someone else territory sounds oh so amercican.

The timing just after USA looking at India trade deals to replace cheap Chinese manufacturing????
Is India about to get a discount of USA military hardware in return for lighting the fuse in region????
On a Geopolitical level a new Pakistan after the dust of a brief war settles with a CIA installed puppet leader would be a massive strategic landing point for American forces to base attacks on Iran/Yemen/China.
Also in background there have been border skirmishes going on for long time between China and India, they’d love to be feeding weapon systems into there to test against China like Ukraine/russia deal.

[pritch]

This isn't particularly stupid but I'm hoping posting this here is OK 'cause we don't have a 'random shit' thread.

Y'all may remember the sinking of the super yacht Bayesian off Sicily last year. The Kiwi skipper was being investigated by Italian police. Things are moving on if slowly.
The skipper, the engineer, and a crew member are still under investigation by the authorities and may yet face charges. Work has now commenced on raising the Bayesian and I've seen comments that the task is dangerous. The vessel is at a depth of thirty metres which doesn't sound terrifying to me but then I'm not a diver. It can't be argued that it's not dangerous, however, as a diver on the job has now died.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/09/diver-dies-during-salvage-operation-to-recover-mike-lynchs-sunken-superyacht

[FLUB]

On a different note:

India vs Pakistan.

What's everyone's feelings on this?Apparently Indian fighter pilots dropped 1000 onion bhajis and 500 pakoras on Pakistan....

They said thats just for starters…

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[TheDemonLord]

Would not of happened under biden. As soon as big daddy left the room, the boys started a game of rough and tumble :oi-grr:

I will admit - well played.

Let's see if it escalates though.

[TheDemonLord]

Without Wasim Akram Pakistan are shit.

I am going to assume this is a Cricket joke?

[TheDemonLord]

Not really done any research but bombing “terrorists” on someone else territory sounds oh so amercican.

The timing just after USA looking at India trade deals to replace cheap Chinese manufacturing????
Is India about to get a discount of USA military hardware in return for lighting the fuse in region????
On a Geopolitical level a new Pakistan after the dust of a brief war settles with a CIA installed puppet leader would be a massive strategic landing point for American forces to base attacks on Iran/Yemen/China.
Also in background there have been border skirmishes going on for long time between China and India, they’d love to be feeding weapon systems into there to test against China like Ukraine/russia deal.

I mean, that region has been heavily disputed for yonks, I was watching a military analysis of it - apparently the big issue is Pakistan relies on the Indian controlled region of Kashmir for all their fresh water - not to mention Ethnic and religious tensions.

I saw a news article this morning that reports of a 100 jet dogfight lasting for a few hours. Pakistan is claiming to have shotdown 5 Indian jets. I am waiting for verified reporting - but it is interesting.

[pritch]

A long time ago in a galaxy far away my brother worked for an airline. Accordingly he got discounted air travel. Such largesse made holiday planning considerably more interesting for him than for most of us. I was never at all jealous - until he was told by the host airline that travel to Europe for him and his wife would be complimentary.

Anyhoo his holidays tended to be more interesting than most with trips to South America, Europe - and Kashmir. The latter appears to be beautiful place and the higher altitude climate makes it a tourist Mecca. The Indian government will appreciate the cash that brings in. That the population is largely muslim is a minor inconvenience.

There are seperatists mostly financed by Pakistanis living in the UK or the USA. Such expats far removed are always the most fervent supporters of military action. Similar to the Irish "troubles" when US citizens with a great great grandfather from Ireland considered themselves Irish and provided financial support to the IRA.

At a dangerous time such as is curently occurring wise words would normally be forthcoming from world leaders including the USA. Unfortunately wise words in Washington DC are currently almost as rare as rocking horse shit.


Edit: added the word "almost".

[R650R]

Australia just what are you thinking or smoking over there???? Seriously with so much land how does this even happen????

For those short on time, graves of former soldiers have been neglected and forgotten in best cases and in worst some have had concrete pathways and rubbish bins installed on top. Just how does this ever happen????


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pCnMv74aW8

[sugilite]

10/10 gave me a chuckle. Reminds me funny left right meme seen recently. “Give us all your guns if saves just one life it’s worth it - Ok send back all illegal immigrsnts if ut saves just one life it’s worth it”. So many political arguments can go both ways, guess why it’s so entertaining
Yep, when it comes to thousands of years of my imaginary best friend is better than yours hatred, american president influence is greatly over exaggerated.


I will admit - well played.

Let's see if it escalates though.
I really hope it deescalates and fast.

[TheDemonLord]

I really hope it deescalates and fast.

Agreed.

I am also eagerly awaiting the Dog Fight reports and analysis - from a pure aviation nerd perspective.

[sugilite]

Agreed.

I am also eagerly awaiting the Dog Fight reports and analysis - from a pure aviation nerd perspective.

So far the Chinese weapons appear to be performing very well. Yikes
https://www.afr.com/world/asia/why-china-s-military-is-the-big-winner-from-india-pakistan-attacks-20250511-p5ly67

[TheDemonLord]

So far the Chinese weapons appear to be performing very well. Yikes
https://www.afr.com/world/asia/why-china-s-military-is-the-big-winner-from-india-pakistan-attacks-20250511-p5ly67

I'm still waiting on a good in-depth analysis - but looking at the various claims - they went up against Rafales and Mirage 2000s - both of which (in terms of Air frame) are about 20 years older than the J10. Gen 4 vs Gen 4.5 fighters.

The other interesting thing of note is that India uses a domestically produced Air-to-Air Missile - the Astra. Doesn't look like it has been fired in anger yet.

In terms of Yikes though - If Indian was flying something contemporary - like Hornets or Typhoon 2 or an F35 - with Sidewinders and AMRAAMs - then I would be worried.

Still though - highly interested to see the analysis - e.g. when was the successful missile fired, what range, what tracking mode etc.

I believe Pakistan does have F16s with American Missiles and it wouldn't surprise me if these were responsible for the successful engagement.

Alternatively - it is possible that something similar to when the Iranian F14s took on Iraqi Migs with the Pheonix Missile - fired from well over the horizon - apparently the PL-15 has a very long range - so who knows.

[pritch]

Australia just what are you thinking or smoking over there???? Seriously with so much land how does this even happen????


Last year I was involved in a meeting with the local Council and a representative of the company that manufactures the grave markers for war cemeteries. The council does a great job but there are a couple of problems. In times past the family had to pay for a marker. Some families could not pay, or did not want to, so some graves are unmarked. Work is being undertaken to correct that. At a period of government penny pinching, yeah another one, it was decided to make the headstones of terrazzo rather than stone. These are not aging well and may need replacing with stone at some point.

The people running that cemetery in WA need a boot up the arse. Evidently they just don't care. That TV programme might make something happen but the cemetery spokesman didn't inspire confidence.

I haven't heard anybody use the expression "boil your piss" on Kiwi TV. Yet.

[Pursang]

Not the usual clickbait crap. Worth a bit of your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeitXe63P7w

[pritch]

Not the usual clickbait crap. Worth a bit of your time.

Excellent. I had previously been exasperated by people who otherwise appeared reasonably intelligent but held stupid views. Not just on KB either. A married couple I know, both bright people with qualifications, but they believe every Trump utterance unquestioningly. I'd read that stupidity can be in the nature of a moral choice but that didn't fully answer my questions.

The "tribalism" factor is a good explanation for some of it. That goes a long way to explain the conspiracy theorists who consider they are in the know so they feel superior to the "sheeple" when in fact it is they who are stupid.

Anyhoo thanks.

[Katman]

Excellent. I had previously been exasperated by people who otherwise appeared reasonably intelligent but held stupid views. Not just on KB either. A married couple I know, both bright people with qualifications, but they believe every Trump utterance unquestioningly. I'd read that stupidity can be in the nature of a moral choice but that didn't fully answer my questions.

The "tribalism" factor is a good explanation for some of it. That goes a long way to explain the conspiracy theorists who consider they are in the know so they feel superior to the "sheeple" when in fact it is they who are stupid.

Anyhoo thanks.

And yet you completely miss the irony that the video could just as easily be describing you and your entrenched beliefs.

[R650R]

Conspiracy theorists don’t feel superior or think they are special, they just ask why is everyone saying 2+2=5 when we know 2+2=4…

And the JFK hearings going on know are already showing clear expert witness testimony that was ignored, lost or deliberately not presented.

Bit hard finding the best clips as Forbes posts so many videos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQGSmYSaKiA

[husaberg]

Conspiracy theorists don’t feel superior or think they are special,

I must say with that post you have outdone even yourself, that's really funny
The media are tripping over themselves trying to solve the mystery of why Africans aren't dying from covid as badly as the west.
Africans routinely take a cheap safe anti malaria drug invented in n 1960's called hydroxychloroquine....
Scooby Doo would solve that puzzle faster


The Ebola hoax continues... note how it hasn't been newsworthy since other stuff has been in the news, you'd almost think a cure had been developed or they's stopped spreading the disease....


You may or may not have noticed but a lot of commie virtue signalling leftist alphabet people probable enjoyed themselves at those capitalist run rock concerts, many of them too lazy to take home their petroleum product based tents....
No the Elite always controls the narrative via the media to direct public opinion, the sheeple are so easily led....Big money OWNS a lot of NGO and protest outfits and DECIDES what is the issue of the day.... that’s why things suddenly drop off the news once they serve their purpose of redirection...





Well well well, our journey into communist hell continues.


There has only been 1650 alleged cases (out of 700,000 tests!!!!) of the virus, but what has spread faster has been submission to communist control.
Nearly 2 million have downloaded the Covid app so you can be sent to a govt “ health” camp to catch the virus if you didnt already have it.
But yay 3 million kiwis have said no to turning their phone into govt spy device.
Tommorow is D-day, public transport will be the barometer of how many of us have rolled belly up to mask wearing.
Hopefully most will say screw this shit and drive their cars to work.
You don’t have to wear a mask if it affects your physical or mental health and you do NOT need to present documents to prove this.
Out and about it’s refreshing to see nearly No one scanning the qr code thingy.
It’ quite clear now as the mountain of contradictions grow that it’s not about stopping the “virus”..
Masks are for destroying social interaction and communication with strangers. You know those moments in life when some shitbag is bashing his missus and enough of you make visual contact to know you’ve got each other back and intervene.
But with masks there will never be any Flight 93 “lets roll” moments of bravery, you’ll never know if your fellow citizen is a Karen or Stasi as you reluctantly board the blacked out train carriage...
A cop will never see your friendly smile, never know you like them and not let you off that minor stop sign indescretion...


Many people don't understand the Russian military doctrine. They are very smart and don't play the same gameplan as the west.
Russia is all about defence, they have seen the economic and military disaster that the Americans have created for themselves, heaps of expensive overseas bases with resupply issues.
Russia will never invade anyone, they will provide very rapid support for chosen allies in a massive no nonsense manner.
They have spent over 400 billion in last ten years modernising their armed forces. Stories of decay are same propaganda plants as the ones about usa F35 being a lemon etc.....
Watch ISIS turn and run, no CIA paycheck is big enough for them to face the Russian war machine, they will quickly fall apart with out American resupply. Guess they'll be a whole



Russia won’t invade anyway. ,,

Well we all should have seen this coming...


While western media has championed international mercenaries going to fight for Ukraine it seems Russia is going to play that card too... we all know what they will be called...
Quite ironic that western security will be threatened by a mechanism they helped build....
The resulting lawless bloodbath will prob see Russia welcomed in as peacekeepers...

[pritch]

A state representative in Louisiana has introduced a bill to ban chemtrails. She believes the government is adding chemicals to the atmosphere to modify the weather. Americans really do need to pay more attention to the people they are electing.

[Katman]

A state representative in Louisiana has introduced a bill to ban chemtrails. She believes the government is adding chemicals to the atmosphere to modify the weather. Americans really do need to pay more attention to the people they are electing.

Weather manipulation has been going on for a long time.

Have you never heard of cloud seeding?

[pritch]

Weather manipulation has been going on for a long time.

Have you never heard of cloud seeding?

Yeah but I've never heard of it being done hereabout. These days the word of the US government does not count for much, but I'll believe they aren't using chemtrails to manipulate the weather. 'Cause chemtrails don't exist.

It seems the inbred yokels in the Louisiana state house have voted for the ban so the bill moves to the state senate.

[neels]

Weather manipulation has been going on for a long time.

Have you never heard of cloud seeding?
There is something of a difference between directly applying chemicals at low altitude to clouds already present, and contrails behind commercial jet aircraft flying 10000ft above normal cloud height on a clear day not resulting in any change of weather.

[Katman]

Cause chemtrails don't exist.

What would you call chemicals sprayed into the atmosphere from a plane?

[jim.cox]

What would you call chemicals sprayed into the atmosphere from a plane?

top dressing

[R650R]

Yeah but I've never heard of it being done hereabout. These days the word of the US government does not count for much, but I'll believe they aren't using chemtrails to manipulate the weather. 'Cause chemtrails don't exist.

It seems the inbred yokels in the Louisiana state house have voted for the ban so the bill moves to the state senate.

Inbred yokels tend to have outside jobs where they are in a position to notice change more than say office workers.
It’s not a debate that I follow deeply or get involved in but I distinctly remember as a child seeing the contrail from globe master flying to Antartica via chch on sunny Saturday mornings. The contrail would appear behind the fast moving jet and rapidly dissapate within in minutes. If you weren’t outside st right time you’d miss seeing it.

[R650R]

There is something of a difference between directly applying chemicals at low altitude to clouds already present, and contrails behind commercial jet aircraft flying 10000ft above normal cloud height on a clear day not resulting in any change of weather.

What’s your timeline for no change in weather??? We’ve had hysterical scientists and mainstream media telling us our weather is changing for last 35 years…

[Katman]

There is something of a difference between directly applying chemicals at low altitude to clouds already present, and contrails behind commercial jet aircraft flying 10000ft above normal cloud height on a clear day not resulting in any change of weather.

I never said anything about contrails.

[R650R]

That pesky teenager trying to tell adults how to live has just set an amazing precedent with her disaster of a Gaza/israel visit/protest.

She’s become the first person to be kidnapped where the hostage taker demands are only that she leave the country 😂😂🤣😂😂

[pritch]

That pesky teenager trying to tell adults how to live has just set an amazing precedent with her disaster of a Gaza/israel visit/protest.

She’s become the first person to be kidnapped where the hostage taker demands are only that she leave the country ����������

That pesky teenager is 22, another amazing precedent? Her generation will have to deal with the problems being caused the people currently in charge so they have the right to speak. Or to attempt to do something to help. Attempting to get food to starving people is nothing to be ashamed of, although the outcome was predictable.

[Katman]

Attempting to get food to starving people is nothing to be ashamed of...

Careful - a berk might be along soon to accuse you of being an antisemite.

[R650R]

That pesky teenager is 22, another amazing precedent? Her generation will have to deal with the problems being caused the people currently in charge so they have the right to speak. Or to attempt to do something to help. Attempting to get food to starving people is nothing to be ashamed of, although the outcome was predictable.

Jesus I can’t believe we’ve been subjected to her demands for so long, you are correct in age.

What her generation will have to deal with is footing the bill for all these virtue signalling climate related policies/taxes/levies and increased costs of production. On the bright side they’ll get their equality demands met, everyone will be on Chinese/mexican slave labour level wages after economies collapse from debt burden.
Our cost of living isnt going up our purchasing power is just being slowly reset to nothing

[sugilite]

Jesus I can’t believe we’ve been subjected to her demands for so long, you are correct in age.

What her generation will have to deal with is footing the bill for all these virtue signalling climate related policies/taxes/levies and increased costs of production. On the bright side they’ll get their equality demands met, everyone will be on Chinese/mexican slave labour level wages after economies collapse from debt burden.
Our cost of living isnt going up our purchasing power is just being slowly reset to nothing

A bunch of solid points there, however there is a reason why insurance companies are pulling out of Florida, and that will be just the tip of the rapidly melting iceberg.
Climate change is real, and it is already here and accelerating. Now - we as humans can sit around squabbling about how much humankind contributed towards it as much as we like. But I can tell you who gives not one shit about those squabbles and she is by far the largest stakeholder and pretty much holds all the power cards in all of this - Mother Nature.

[Katman]

Climate change is real, and it is already here and accelerating.

There are plenty of people out there, far more qualified than you, who have a very different view.

[sugilite]

There are plenty of people out there, far more qualified than you, who have a very different view.

An interesting premise, interesting in the fact that it can also be applied to your views on vaccines.
I tend to follow the money, an often murky endeavor when it comes to scientific reports, who is paying for it seems to impact the results - go figure. Now insurance companies, the last thing they want to do is actually pay out, and those pricks are pulling the plug on insurance packages left right and center, even here in little ole NZ. They are turning down premiums because the risk is not worth the reward. To stay in business, they have to deal with the cold hard facts. A concept us keyboard "experts" are unencumbered by.

[R650R]

An interesting premise, interesting in the fact that it can also be applied to your views on vaccines.
I tend to follow the money, an often murky endeavor when it comes to scientific reports, who is paying for it seems to impact the results - go figure. Now insurance companies, the last thing they want to do is actually pay out, and those pricks are pulling the plug on insurance packages left right and center, even here in little ole NZ. They are turning down premiums because the risk is not worth the reward. To stay in business, they have to deal with the cold hard facts. A concept us keyboard "experts" are unencumbered by.

No that’s just marketing genius creating artificial scarcity. Lose a couple policies to stoke the fear and team everyone else. Eg my home wasn’t in danger during Gabriel and I’m not stupid enough to drive through floodwater but now I’m getting reamed as “oh it might happen again”

The latest worst storm ever has usually already happened same place decades early at same or worse levels. Check out Darwin cyclone 1974 and multiple esk valley floods back in early 1900’s. It just with ease of taking photos these days and high speed communication we get to hear about everything.

Climate is always changing it just depends on what timeline you are looking at everything g goes in cycles.

[sugilite]

No that’s just marketing genius creating artificial scarcity. Lose a couple policies to stoke the fear and team everyone else. Eg my home wasn’t in danger during Gabriel and I’m not stupid enough to drive through floodwater but now I’m getting reamed as “oh it might happen again”

The latest worst storm ever has usually already happened same place decades early at same or worse levels. Check out Darwin cyclone 1974 and multiple esk valley floods back in early 1900’s. It just with ease of taking photos these days and high speed communication we get to hear about everything.

Climate is always changing it just depends on what timeline you are looking at everything g goes in cycles.
I'll let you continue that argument with Mother Nature in the years to come.

[Katman]

I tend to follow the money, an often murky endeavor when it comes to scientific reports, who is paying for it seems to impact the results - go figure.

You mean like studies funded by the pharmaceutical industry?

[sugilite]

You mean like studies funded by the pharmaceutical industry?

Yes, exactly. Any studes that are funded by industries with a vested outcome are to be treated with high suspicion - from both sides.

For instance, when a power company wanted to build a wind farm with the closest turbine to my house being under one kilometer away, I went looking for information, studies that had been done on their impact. What I found were studies funded by power companies saying nothing to worry about, and then studies funded by wind farm opponents that were saying they represented the end of the universe as we know it. If I had a slight lean in one direction or the other, I could of found seemingly compelling "science" to support that lean in these studies from both sides.
It was not until I found a social/medical study initially unrelated to wind farms (they inadvertently came into the long term study later) that I finally found unbiased information, which unfortunately for me - had negative connotations towards living so close to them.

[TheDemonLord]

It was not until I found a social/medical study initially unrelated to wind farms (they inadvertently came into the long term study later) that I finally found unbiased information, which unfortunately for me - had negative connotations towards living so close to them.

So, I am curious on a number of fronts - if you don't mind:

What were the Negative Connotations (for you, specifically)

and the secondary element (which is where my curiousity is really piqued) - Which of the two biased studies (For and Against) would you say was closest (and why) to the unbiased one?

[sugilite]

So, I am curious on a number of fronts - if you don't mind:

OK, even the nutshell version will likely be considered by many to be a wall of text, guess what goes around comes around :bleh:


What were the Negative Connotations (for you, specifically)
The effects on my 4 children.
The study I finally found was a very long term one, 15 to 20 odd years I vaguely remember. It was a USA based study on health and education of rural community children. With my family living 25 kilometers from the closest store, it seemed apt. The study measured all sorts of things once or twice a year, education levels, amount of sleep attained, and all sorts of other health/education orientated things.
About 6 years in, a wind farm was built nearby some of the houses. The education numbers, sleep hours and concentration level test scores in particular all went down.
Turns out the wind farm had not been correctly consented, and it was decommissioned and ripped out. Subsequent test levels returned back to the same ranges pre wind farm. The report theorized that the rhythmic sub sonic sound (low frequency) that wind farms produce prevent many people from attaining rem state while asleep. I then looked around for such studies and found this effect, is actually a thing. Studies were done on sailors with particular diesel engines creating these harmonics and so on.
The study noted that the changes for student levels dropping was about 3 kilometers out, getting progressively worse the closer the children lived to the wind farm.
My preconceived bias was I wanted to find no problems btw.
Interestingly through the consent hearings I attended, the community funded resistance did find experts from the Massey University who were part way thorough a study looking into if houses were acting as speaker boxes for these low frequency sounds and houses with iron roofs in particular seemed to be the worst for doing it, so the roof acts as a receiver for the sound vibrations, in essence turning the house into a "boom box". And it is a fact, if you want to listen to what a turbine sounds like, do not stand under it, rather go anywhere up to 2.5 to 3 km's away, and park in a quiet enclave, then you will hear that wop, wop, wop sound. And it matters not if you have the windows of the car wound up or down, the volume level does not change. When the Massey professors had said their piece, the power company experts wrote it off as pseudo science. I took this up directly with the power company experts and asked them what made them consign this research to the pseudo science trash can, and what I received, was a bunch of mealy mouthed ramblings that basically watered down to the study had not been peer reviewed. I then told them that considering the study had not been completed, that their pseudo science comments seemed very performative and baselesly emotive. I could see from the joy on their faces that they were very grateful for my input ;)


and the secondary element (which is where my curiousity is really piqued) - Which of the two biased studies (For and Against) would you say was closest (and why) to the unbiased one?

I cannot answer this question, because the study that (finally) gave me the information I needed was not a wind farm study. The wind farm was just there for 2 or 3 years or so during that part of the study.

As for the studies I found that I detected were biased, there were many. And my perception was both sides pushed very dodgy claims tailored to suit what ever result they wanted to "find/pay" for.

The community fought hard against the wind farm, and subsequently it was never built. The community did get it stopped at the council consent stage, but then the power company appealed to the environment court, who nauseatingly sided 100% with the power company. Of particular annoyance to me was the power company swore black and blue that the noise levels would stay under certain ;levels, when the community asked for monitoring to be put in place to make sure these levels are met, the environment court judges said nah. What stopped it was what the local farmers had been saying all along to the power company. A Karst Limestone environment is not stable enough to hold up turbines, especially with thousands of tomos everywhere. After spending MILLIONS on tests and reports. When the power company finally drilled 21 test holes, 17 of those tests ended up in tomos. To this day that power company is still trying to flog the project off to another power company lol

As an aside, I took much satisfaction in costing that particular power company hundreds of thousands of dollars in wasted reports, because during my in person submission at the council hearing stage, I mauled 2 of the reports and associated expert report writers so badly, they completely dropped them from the case they presented to the environment court. (one of the power company lawyers told me this after they won in the environment court) This was the same power company that tried to rip me off years earlier and took me more than 11 months to get them to do the right thing.

With some irony, I now overlook a wind farm, luckily 7 km's away, so I have never heard it. The only slight annoyance is the red flashing lights causing light pollution effecting my stargazing. I'm fine with that though, as it is better than small aircraft and helicopters banging into the turbines.

Wall of text over.

[R650R]

Must spread rep Sugi, nice work.

Even just visiting the ones at palmy lookout gets nauseating pretty quick that low freq hum just gets inside you. You definitely wouldn’t want to live to close.
Low freq noises are what wakes people up, in same range as speech it’s our human defence instinct biology and why DOOF DOOF feral music choices can be so annoying.

[TheDemonLord]

That was thoroughly interesting. The clincher being the Low frequency vibration being constant - very interesting.

[pritch]

I could see from the joy on their faces that they were very grateful for my input ;)



The high point of an excellent post.

[TheDemonLord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWk2bsIa3EE

The most up-to-date analysis of the Indian Vs Pakistan air combat.

Which, TL;DR - We don't have any conclusive info to understand what was done, how it was done.

But, despite there being very little details - there is some very interesting insights.

[R650R]

An indictment on low level of modern journalism and intelligence.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360735452/nuclear-war-could-kill-22000-kiwis-cause-1-trillion-harm-report

There is no such thing as a limited nucluer exchange. It’s why the Russians and USA did the START treaty to get rid of intermediate range tactical nukes. The prime reason being the have the reach to eliminate longer range weapons that make the crazy theory of MAD workable.

Although the article makes some mentions of supply chain disruptions it’s not even close to how bad or non existent resupply of anything useful will be. Just look at Covid and that was with most freight modes still in working condition just slowed by precautions.

[husaberg]

An indictment on low level of modern journalism and intelligence.


Yeah reporters sure are stupid, I can remember one saying over and over how Russia would not invade Ukraine, how COVID mask wearing was a conspiracy, how COVID as cured with malaria drugs and ivermectin. So how seriously stupid was that.
.......oh yeah that was you wasn't it aye...

[pritch]

Several times I've seen comment that people who have to eat gluten free in the US find that they can eat any bread in Europe without experiencing problems.
This may explain why that is.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3i16zp2LeDA

[Katman]

Several times I've seen comment that people who have to eat gluten free in the US find that they can eat any bread in Europe without experiencing problems.
This may explain why that is.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3i16zp2LeDA

Maybe instead of automatically belittling RFK Jnr's efforts, more people should be grateful that he's trying to address many of these issues.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Maybe instead of automatically belittling RFK Jnr's efforts, more people should be grateful that he's trying to address many of these issues.

He has zero credibility for anything because he is an insane piece of vaccine denying shit. How's that polio treating you? Measles? Shingles for fucks sake?

[Katman]

How's that polio treating you? Measles? Shingles for fucks sake?

I had shingles a couple of years ago.

It wasn't pleasant - but I didn't die.

[husaberg]

look at me.... look at me
You always attempt to flex like you're a alpha chad character, but you constantly complain like you want to speak to the manager Karen.

For the elderly or others that are imumo compromised what is a more likely probability , suffering serious effects from having shingles? or a side effect from a vaccine?
Then do the same for any diseases karen.

Don't worry, everyone on KB knows you are far too hypocritical to give an honest straightforward answer.