Stupid World

[avgas]

London manchester . . . .

And i have my heart set on a tv
Pffft. They didn't even bring in tanks there. Even LA, 1992 was pathetic.

You want to go against a government you gotta have bigger balls.
Keep in mind - these guys lost.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140527041719-tam-goddess-2-horizontal-gallery.jpg
http://gdb.voanews.com/26C87718-7EAB-4A12-803B-A7C1CE79C336_mw1024_s_n.jpg

https://joshwilltravel.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/lszvwlu.jpg
http://www.2gb.com/sites/default/files/field/image/20140603/tiananmen_square2.jpg

[yokel]

plant some trees, smoke some trees, the circle of life.

the circle of life is now a straight line into a brick wall.

http://youtu.be/pSp14zV_jSI

[Akzle]

You want to go against a government you gotta have bigger balls.

i think youre confusing 'government' with jews, which, they mostly are anyway, but jews are far, far more sinister.
Theyre winning too, because old white cunts refuse to change the way they whip dead horses.
Lol. Silly white cunts.

[mashman]

There won't be a revolution. All the great minds will simply disappear.
Last country to have a revolution and succeed was Ukraine.......look where they are now?
The world is watching and learning that there is no point fighting the government - now you simply plan your exit from them and leave them.
25% of NZ understands this - If you include the ones who begrudgingly voted.....I estimate that 50% of NZ doesn't care anymore. That figure could be much higher.
In the US the figures are about the same.

The only way a revolution will happen in a 1st world, is if that 50% of the population gets backed into a corner. This will never happen.
We have the perception of freedom and that is enough for most.

No point fighting? WTF happened, did your balls go back up or somefink. True on the revolution front, although I reckons it'd take about 5% of the population to kick off... then we'll watch the beehive turn into a giant toaster.

[avgas]

No point fighting? WTF happened, did your balls go back up or somefink. True on the revolution front, although I reckons it'd take about 5% of the population to kick off... then we'll watch the beehive turn into a giant toaster.
I will support the first person who wants to blow up the beehive.

Until then - like a good house of cards, I will sit back and watch it get higher. I will be fine when it falls, the believers not so much.

[mashman]

I will support the first person who wants to blow up the beehive.

Until then - like a good house of cards, I will sit back and watch it get higher. I will be fine when it falls, the believers not so much.

Nah, I'd rather it was used to good effect for a change, like housing the homeless etc...

lol... ain't much else we can really.... mebee.

[yokel]

I will support the first person who wants to blow up the beehive.

Until then - like a good house of cards, I will sit back and watch it get higher. I will be fine when it falls, the believers not so much.

We do, it's called guy fawkes day haha.

[blue rider]

one geezer building windmills from scrap

but thats in africa

http://www.labioguia.com/emprendedor-africano-construye-molinos-eolicos-con-chatarra/

[SPman]

Islamic extremism.......it's the Saudis, stupid..........


The recent rise of the Islamic State (IS) in Syria and Iraq, along with its bedfellow Jahbat Al-Nusra (JN) is being viewed with alarm worldwide. It is the latest in a series of problems related to Islamic extremism for which Al Qaeda is the poster child. From Somalia to Yemen to Nigeria to the Levant to Afghanistan and Pakistan, to Chechnya to Xinjiang, China and even raising its head among the populations of western countries, both Muslim and non-Muslim are facing the ravages of the Salafi/Takfiri Nexus of Jihad............................
..........The Saudis and their Gulf co-conspirators have not limited themselves to promoting their hateful ideology. They have provided billions in material support for Muslims worldwide willing to take extremist action in accordance with Salafi/Takfiri principles. Any Muslim group worldwide willing to take violent actions that accord with this extreme Salafi/Takfiri worldview finds it easy to tap into the Saudi/Arab Gulf international network to receive funding and other forms of tangible support to launch their violent campaigns.

http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2014/08/its-saudis-stupid.html

[avgas]

We do, it's called guy fawkes day haha.
Another failed attempt to overthrow the government.

[yokel]

Another failed attempt to overthrow the government.

And like morons we celibate this failed attempt every year

[Brian d marge]

And like morons we celibate this failed attempt every year
Im not sure why . . . .

I think as british we celebrate incompetence

I mean 32 barrels of gunpowder and a slow fuse and matches

In a cellar under the parliament

Try explaining that one

[mashman]

Im not sure why . . . .

I think as british we celebrate incompetence

I mean 32 barrels of gunpowder and a slow fuse and matches

In a cellar under the parliament

Try explaining that one

It was already there when I got here.

[Brian d marge]

It was already there when I got here.
Matches and fuse in pocket

And why are dressed like that

Possibly the origin of the bonfire setting fire to and setting an example against bad fashion

[mashman]

Matches and fuse in pocket

And why are dressed like that

Possibly the origin of the bonfire setting fire to and setting an example against bad fashion

Oi, you just put that in my pocket. Bet, if he's in heaven, that he's looking at modern day detonators with envy.

Fucksake... they had fashion police back then. Sounds more likely they thought him a witch.

[Brian d marge]

I would have strung him for the face fuzz alone . . Dont get me started on the tights

Hey nonnie nonnie slap my thighs and call me bob

[mashman]

I would have strung him for the face fuzz alone . . Dont get me started on the tights

Hey nonnie nonnie slap my thighs and call me bob

You're a man out of time bbobb.

[Brian d marge]

of course they are focused at 1300 dollars a pop

snippty poo;

Now, they assure me * (dkey) they are. But they also assure me they're very focused on that area." The airline announced today annual profits had soared by 45 per cent due to higher passenger numbers and greater capacity.

Key said it was doing a "magnificent job" and was one of the few airlines in the world to make a profit.

However, the high price of airfares to regional areas had been raised with him as he travelled around New Zealand, and he had "directly raised" that with Air NZ.


Even I could make a profit , charging those rates .....

Stephen

[avgas]

Im not sure why . . . .
I think as british we celebrate incompetence
I mean 32 barrels of gunpowder and a slow fuse and matches
In a cellar under the parliament
Try explaining that one
"Bro! This shit was supposed to be sent to the docks! My bad - I don't read good."

[mashman]

:facepalm:... war mongers just wanna be war mongers (http://rt.com/news/183064-nato-rasmussen-europe-russia/) and will murder their way towards getting their own way.

[mashman]

Transport winner in Akld Council budget (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/transport-winner-akld-council-budget-004838617.html)... shame no fucker will be able to afford to use the transport after 10 years of rates rises.

[avgas]

Transport winner in Akld Council budget (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/transport-winner-akld-council-budget-004838617.html)... shame no fucker will be able to afford to use the transport after 10 years of rates rises.
To give this some perspective. The rates bill in Auckland is still about 1/4 what it is here.......

[Akzle]

To give this some perspective. The rates bill in Auckland is still about 1/4 what it is here.......

aren't there places in the states where "teh govt" can't afford bin men?

[Brian d marge]

aren't there places in the states where "teh govt" can't afford bin men?
Most of europe

Oh my bad i thought u said . , to be a bin man


Due to those pesky americans


Snip
Meanwhile, it looks as if Rasmussen will be passing around the proverbial hat during next week’s summit, looking to collect more money from NATO members, even as their own countries are facing economic turmoil amid IMF-enforced austerity measures

Feelin like sending a letter to putin saying dont worry mate

Us common folk are against the current military movements

Hahaha for shits and giggles i wonder how far it would get

Only cost the price of a stamp

[blue rider]

also posted in the election thread but for shits n giggles

http://www.horizonpoll.co.nz/attachments/docs/horizon-research-political-conduct-survey-repo.pdf

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10354826_738622882862899_6973257996725390631_n.jpg

[Brian d marge]

Britain sent a batalion to poland on exercises a few months ago

[yokel]

Most of europe

Oh my bad i thought u said . , to be a bin man


Due to those pesky americans


Snip
Meanwhile, it looks as if Rasmussen will be passing around the proverbial hat during next week’s summit, looking to collect more money from NATO members, even as their own countries are facing economic turmoil amid IMF-enforced austerity measures

Feelin like sending a letter to putin saying dont worry mate

Us common folk are against the current military movements

Hahaha for shits and giggles i wonder how far it would get

Only cost the price of a stamp

Putin is the man, I'd vote for him if I could

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[Akzle]

Putin is the man, I'd vote for him if I could


don't vote. elect.

[Brian d marge]

don't vote. elect.
I get one in the morning

[mashman]

don't vote. elect.

Need to vote before you get to elect though innit.

[Akzle]

Need to vote before you get to elect though innit.

oh yeah? says who?

[yokel]

haha, wonder if this will take off?

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[avgas]

aren't there places in the states where "teh govt" can't afford bin men?
Worse than that. Seems that in my local Greenwich (where all the bankers live) they can't afford to put gutters on the sides of roads that have houses less than $3M in value. (I am not kidding)

But to go back to my previous point:
$800K house in Auckland (sale price not LIM) = $2700 rates
Same house in CT = $6000-8000 rates per year
Same house in NY = $15000-$20000 rates per year

[mashman]

oh yeah? says who?

The non pro-revolution side of me... and

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-raI00KIBers/T-jdNxHBuRI/AAAAAAAAAA4/rRAngfbzi3c/s1600/Cartman.jpg

[mashman]

Wal-Mart to Embed RFID Tags in Clothing Beginning August 1 (http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/computers/item/7183-wal-mart-to-embed-rfid-tags-in-clothing-beginning-august-1) (from 2010). Make of it what you will.

[Brian d marge]

why am I thinking bullsht

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28982551

Stephen

[avgas]

Wal-Mart to Embed RFID Tags in Clothing Beginning August 1 (http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/computers/item/7183-wal-mart-to-embed-rfid-tags-in-clothing-beginning-august-1) (from 2010). Make of it what you will.
Actually most quality clothing in NZ has these already. Feel around, you are looking for a hard rectangle about 1cm x 3cm x 1-2mm. You will know it when you find it.

Last clothes I cut ones out of was some Kathmandu Pants, Hallenstiens T-shirt and Billabong board shorts.

[mashman]

Actually most quality clothing in NZ has these already. Feel around, you are looking for a hard rectangle about 1cm x 3cm x 1-2mm. You will know it when you find it.

Last clothes I cut ones out of was some Kathmandu Pants, Hallenstiens T-shirt and Billabong board shorts.

I wouldn't be surprised at all. Fortunately my wardrobe has limited clothing of that quality.

[Woodman]

Wal-Mart to Embed RFID Tags in Clothing Beginning August 1 (http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/computers/item/7183-wal-mart-to-embed-rfid-tags-in-clothing-beginning-august-1) (from 2010). Make of it what you will.

Great idea, no more stocktakes:eek5:

[mashman]

why am I thinking bullsht

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28982551

Stephen

What took your disfancy sir?

However it's hardly surprising if the figures in this story are to be believed (http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/05/11/number-of-the-week-total-world-debt-load-at-313-of-gdp/).

Happy happy joy joy that it ends with a smile

"Per-capita indebtedness is still just $11,621 in emerging economies (and rises to $12,808 if you exclude the two largest populations, China and India). For developed economies, it’s $170,401. The U.S. alone has total per-capita indebtedness of $176,833, including all public and private debt.". S'ok though, we can borrow more money to service the interest debt on that baby.

[Brian d marge]

Try this one

Air New Zealand was one standout performer for the year, announcing a 45 per cent increase in net profit to $262 million, only a day before Australian rival Qantas shocked the market with a A$2.8 billion ($3.1b) loss on the back of large-scale writedowns and restructuring.


45 %
What magic did they do

Charge everyone 45 percent more
Cut costs by 45

Stuff 45 percent more people onto the plane

Or massage the figures

[Brian d marge]

dont worry Im going to


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/video/news/video.cfm?c_id=1501138&gal_cid=1501138&gallery_id=145153

fk not that thats just a lyin knt

no this , I forgot the milk


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heres the English version
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Stephen

[mashman]

Oirish Version

English version

Win, Ingrand.

[oldrider]

More evidence that the media think that they and they alone govern this country since the advent of MMP! :nya: .. SUCKERS!

[blue rider]

ooooooops

http://enformable.com/2014/08/workers-drop-refueling-crane-console-fukushima-daiichi-reactor-3-spent-fuel-pool/

[yokel]

It's ok, all that unit 3 MOX fuel has long been burnt off anyway, it's somewhere else now

http://enenews.com/tv-large-numbers-whales-dolphins-stranding-california

[Brian d marge]

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hahahahahahahaaaaaa like I never saw this coming !!

Mr obama .....Classic fail.org on foreign policies

New bank , new market for me oil and the yuan ruble as the new reserve currency ]

#classicfailobama

Stephen

[mashman]

hahahahahahahaaaaaa like I never saw this coming !!

Mr obama .....Classic fail.org on foreign policies

New bank , new market for me oil and the yuan ruble as the new reserve currency ]

#classicfailobama

Stephen

I love the music in those things... so uplifting. Good on 'em for building the worlds biggest target.

[blue rider]

paranoid, puritanical and sexually depraved

the us has lost its nuts and bolts

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-was-taking-pictures-of-my-daughters-but-a-stranger-thought-i-was-exploiting-them/2014/08/29/34831bb8-2c6c-11e4-994d-202962a9150c_story.html

[mashman]

And so it begins (https://nz.totaltravel.yahoo.com/news-opinions/news/a/-/24871305/new-travel-restrictions-for-britain/)

"Prime Minister David Cameron says his government will give police more powers to seize a passport from someone leaving the country, and draw up plans to block British nationals of concern from returning to the UK."

Fuckin nazi's.

[Brian d marge]

And so it begins (https://nz.totaltravel.yahoo.com/news-opinions/news/a/-/24871305/new-travel-restrictions-for-britain/)

"Prime Minister David Cameron says his government will give police more powers to seize a passport from someone leaving the country, and draw up plans to block British nationals of concern from returning to the UK."

Fuckin nazi's.
Dont worry he hasnt borrowed from the swiss yet

[Akzle]

if i heard right, the us and the aus are sending AID. and WEAPONS. To iraq.
Good fuken business, that.

[Scuba_Steve]

if i heard right, the us and the aus are sending AID.

Man why they doing that wouldn't some South African country be better sending the AID's?

[SPman]

Well....what is "The West"

Interesting blog by John Ward on this......


....All of which makes me doubt if there is any such thing in 2014 as The West. The dislike of American commercial imperialism so strongly expressed by Charles de Gaulle in the 1960s has long since spread across Europe, and although British governments continue to spout “special relationship” at every opportunity, I’d be prepared to bet that – were there to be an Ashton Poll tomorrow – the majority would wish Westminster to be much less closely aligned to Washington. Certainly, there is no doubt in my mind that inside the Chancellery, the key players are fed up to the back teeth of knee-jerk US energy-supply obsession. Merkel in particular (I’m told) has several times asked her aides rhetorically if President Obama has spotted that the EU has a bigger problem in that area…but seems less willing than Washington to blow up the planet in pursuit of a solution.......

.........So I ask again, ‘What exactly is The West in 2014?’. For me, it looks like this: an America increasingly out of step with its allies, a Britain out of step with the EU, an Australia heavily dependent on China as a customer, a Russia keen to move closer to Beijing, a Japan looking after Number One as always, a Germany tired of America and ClubMed – and an utterly divided EU on the subject of neoliberal austerity.


Looked at from this perspective, exactly who are all these clowns speaking on behalf of when they warn Russia of dire consequences: the Greeks, who have never trusted the US? The Hungarians, who see Brussels as merely an agent of globalist colonialism? The British, whose dash towards UKip gathers momentum? The French, whose ruling Party has a large minority against Brussels-am-Berlin economic policy that is spookily close to the views of Marine LePen? The Italians, who display – with every month – a growing desire to exit the euro?


I think not. Rather, they speak – as always these days – for puffed-up functionaries, deeply disturbed globalists, panicky bankers, and the eclectic gestalt that goes to make up what most people these days casually call The Elite.



http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/09/01/ukraine-tension-assertive-russia-disappearing-west-game-over/

[Brian d marge]

This is Just down the road .....literally I drink next station up ....

might be good for a day off work then

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29026023

Stephen

[blue rider]

if i heard right, the us and the aus are sending AID. and WEAPONS. To iraq.
Good fuken business, that.



one hand washes the other?

[Brian d marge]

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hahahahaaaaa classic , dem naughty circumcised people again.....

Stephen

[mashman]

Well finally something to rival the Nobel Prize that Obama received...

GQ Awards: Tony Blair Named Philanthropist Of The Year (https://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/gossip/omg/gq-awards-tony-blair-named-philanthropist-of-the-year-internet-implodes-121412167.html?vp=1) :killingme :facepalm:

[oldrider]

Well finally something to rival the Nobel Prize that Obama received...

GQ Awards: Tony Blair Named Philanthropist Of The Year (https://uk.celebrity.yahoo.com/gossip/omg/gq-awards-tony-blair-named-philanthropist-of-the-year-internet-implodes-121412167.html?vp=1) :killingme :facepalm:

Both puppets of Israel and Zionism don't you think they deserve to be justly rewarded? :first:

[mashman]

Both puppets of Israel and Zionism don't you think they deserve to be justly rewarded? :first:

Lies. For you :laugh:

http://thelastgreatstand.com/lgs/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/tin-foil-hat-3.jpg

[Brian d marge]

Follow this thread ,,,,,,,,

Stanley "Stan" Fischer (Hebrew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language): סטנלי פישר‎; born October 15, 1943) is an economist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economist) and the vice chair of the U.S. Federal Reserve System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System) . Born in Northern Rhodesia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Rhodesia) (now Zambia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zambia)), he holds dual citizenship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_Citizenship_in_United_States#Dual_citizenship ) in Israel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel) and the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Fischer#cite_note-SMH-Dec12-1) He served as governor of the Bank of Israel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Israel) from 2005 to 2013. He previously served as chief economist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Bank_Chief_Economist) at the World Bank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Bank).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Fischer#cite_note-2) On January 10, 2014, United States President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_President) Barack Obama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama) nominated Fischer to be Vice-Chairman of the US Federal Reserve Board of Governors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Board_of_Governors).

Michael Chertoff (born November 28, 1953) was the second United States Secretary of Homeland Security (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_Homeland_Security) under President George W. Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush) and co-author of the USA PATRIOT Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act). He previously served as a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Third_Circu it), as a federal prosecutor, and as Assistant U.S. Attorney General (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Assistant_Attorney_General). He succeeded Tom Ridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Ridge) as United States Secretary of Homeland Security on February 15, 2005.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/07/02/transcript-of-yellen-and-lagarde-comments-at-imf-event/


and then we have Victoria Nuland ......

Nuland is the daughter of Yale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_University_School_of_Medicine) bioethics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioethics) and medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine) professor Sherwin B. Nuland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherwin_B._Nuland), whose original surname was Nudelman. Victoria’s paternal grandfather was Meyer Nudelman from a family of Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew) immigrants who came to New York City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City) from the Russian Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland#cite_note-2)

remember her ..........

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS5RGIJTHUIHRI591sBTsYi0s3no6BnM oAGNOlhls50c-uGSAn3



Hmmm what that saying about no smoke without fire

Wonder how Israel is doing these days............


Stephen

[mashman]

Just what are the ECB's bond-buying options? (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/just-ecbs-bond-buying-options-124607575.html) lolly lolly lolly. And when that fails?

[blue rider]

a nice little reminder of all the finance companies gone bust

all those peeps that lost their money should have made better decisions and such

http://www.interest.co.nz/saving/deep-freeze-list

have a look at it
it is an impressive list

[Ocean1]

a nice little reminder of all the finance companies gone bust

all those peeps that lost their money should have made better decisions and such

http://www.interest.co.nz/saving/deep-freeze-list

have a look at it
it is an impressive list

Add up the number of investors involved. It's rather a lot less than the number of certified fools in the country. Some of them escaped.

For any non-fools there's now this: http://www.interest.co.nz/personal-finance/71744/nzs-first-licenced-online-peer-peer-lender-now-and-running

Where there really is nobody else to blame for your poor decisions.

[Brian d marge]

may be a nut but some interesting points raised

Now it may be that IF you are of a certain way , then your social background may be statistically influential on your final position in life ...ie because of your social background ethics , it may lead you to be the head of the fed

BUT ........
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Stephen

[carbonhed]

may be a nut but some interesting points raised

Now it may be that IF you are of a certain way , then your social background may be statistically influential on your final position in life ...ie because of your social background ethics , it may lead you to be the head of the fed

Stephen

It constantly surprises me that rabid antisemitism is so pervasive amongst the conspiracy wackjobs... or perhaps not so much.

[puddytat]

Well it constantly surprises me that the rest of you cant see a link.....just like you cant get your head around people like Hagar or Pilger et al...

[carbonhed]

Well it constantly surprises me that the rest of you cant see a link.....just like you cant get your head around people like Hagar or Pilger et al...

But antisemitism is just so lame. How do you bring that up at parties? "no really I'm a nice guy just don't get me started on the fucking Jews, Maoris, Chinks, wops, dagos............... blahblahbla.

And it's Hager and I do get him. Trust fund socialist... an activist pretending to be a journalist. Boring.

[puddytat]

But antisemitism is just so lame. How do you bring that up at parties?
.

Its not just at parties.....mostly I hear it from my fellow countryman every time politics or Palestine are mentioned. And that's from people on both sides of the political divide. Oh, also when banking is mentioned.
Maybe because you associate with those that , or are like yourself, in the holier than thou catergory that benefit from their meddling?

[Brian d marge]

Now I don't care either way , but our Brother Nathaniel ...raises a point

whether its a valid point is another matter ...

but others including Prez Putin have also raised the point

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Stefan

[oldrider]

Take care not to confuse anti-Semitism with anti "sector of influence"! ... I.E. anti Zionism does not equal anti-Semitism!

The only thing Jewish is that Jews (by design) make up the bottom layers of the pyramid of world power!

It is the peak of the pyramid (the 1%) that is dangerous to everyone else in the world, the rest of the pyramid is benign and expendable!

I.E. None of the top 1% suffered at the hands of the Nazis during the Holocaust ... they were all safely and comfortably ensconced in United States of Israel! (aka USA)

[puddytat]

I liked the way his wee hat responds to his eyebrow movements.....

certainly has valid points but I take an orthodox Christian as seriously as I would a Jewish or Islamic one....

[Brian d marge]

It does doesnt it up and down

[mashman]

Renouncing U.S. citizenship is about to get a lot more expensive (http://news.yahoo.com/renouncing-u-s--citizenship-is-about-to-get-a-lot-more-expensive-150405883.html)... You must pay to leave? :killingme

[Akzle]

Renouncing U.S. citizenship is about to get a lot more expensive (http://news.yahoo.com/renouncing-u-s--citizenship-is-about-to-get-a-lot-more-expensive-150405883.html)... You must pay to leave? :killingme

1) terrorists.
1b) free men. (obviously, terrorists)

[mashman]

Evil not so banal, says disturbing new probe (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/evil-not-banal-says-disturbing-060928267.html#S9SIbrE). Sheeple research back in the day.

[oldrider]

Evil not so banal, says disturbing new probe (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/evil-not-banal-says-disturbing-060928267.html#S9SIbrE). Sheeple research back in the day.

That very subject roused my interest as young boy growing up during and following WW2 .... I asked myself, how on earth could this ever have happened?

Interestingly enough the situation that Germany blamed for their persecution of Jews (and odd fellows) for all of Germany's problems has happened again!

Did it ever stop? Was the world always the target? There is much to suggest that it always was!

The Jewification (Zionism) of USA, Britain, etc. I.E. "the western world", is exactly the situation Germany was enraged about from WW1 to WW2!

The same old problem only now a "world wide problem" exists right now ... the only world leader that is openly resisting the Zionist take over is Vladimir Putin!

You can see what the Zionist juggernaut and it's puppet presidents have planned for him in the Ukrain and just why it is happening!

The Zionist media machine is trying to paint Putin into the picture as the "evil self serving zealot" but you can fool some of the people some of the time etc!

The world fortunately is not completely fooled! :oi-grr:

[mashman]

That very subject roused my interest as young boy growing up during and following WW2 .... I asked myself, how on earth could this ever have happened?

Interestingly enough the situation that Germany blamed for their persecution of Jews (and odd fellows) for all of Germany's problems has happened again!

Did it ever stop? Was the world always the target? There is much to suggest that it always was!

The Jewification (Zionism) of USA, Britain, etc. I.E. "the western world", is exactly the situation Germany was enraged about from WW1 to WW2!

The same old problem only now a "world wide problem" exists right now ... the only world leader that is openly resisting the Zionist take over is Vladimir Putin!

You can see what the Zionist juggernaut and it's puppet presidents have planned for him in the Ukrain and just why it is happening!

The Zionist media machine is trying to paint Putin into the picture as the "evil self serving zealot" but you can fool some of the people some of the time etc!

The world fortunately is not completely fooled! :oi-grr:

They're gearing up to something. (http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140907/DEFREG01/309070011/DoD-Georgian-MoD-Discuss-Black-Hawk-Helicopter-Sale?odyssey=mod_sectionstories). I can hear it now... "oi, pssst, the ruskies are comin after you once they've finished with Ukraine, best arm yourself quickly. We've got some cool helicopters you might be interested in, really cheap too."

Stupid, stupid world.

Iran first I reckon.

[SPman]

Interesting little article here - How Empires End....http://www.internationalman.com/articles/how-empires-end

the summation ......


.........The very same events occur, falling like dominoes, more or less in order, in any empire, in any age:



The reach of government leaders habitually exceeds their grasp.
Dramatic expansion (generally through warfare) is undertaken without a clear plan as to how that expansion is to be financed.
The population is overtaxed as the bills for expansion become due, without consideration as to whether the population can afford increased taxation.
Heavy taxation causes investment by the private sector to diminish, and the economy begins to decline.
Costs of goods rise, without wages keeping pace.
Tax revenue declines as the economy declines (due to excessive taxation). Taxes are increased again, in order to top up government revenues.
In spite of all the above, government leaders personally hoard as much as they can, further limiting the circulation of wealth in the business community.
Governments issue bonds and otherwise borrow to continue expansion, with no plan as to repayment.
Dramatic authoritarian control is instituted to assure that the public continues to comply with demands, even if those demands cannot be met by the public.
Economic and social collapse occurs, often marked by unrest and riots, the collapse of the economy, and the exit of those who are productive.
In this final period, the empire turns on itself, treating its people as the enemy....


...............Once an empire has reached stage eight above, it never reverses. It is a “dead empire walking” and only awaits the painful playing-out of the final three stages. At that point, it is foolhardy in the extreme to remain and “wait it out” in the hope that the decline will somehow reverse. At that point, the wiser choice might be to follow the cue of the Chinese, the Romans, and others, who instead chose to quietly exit for greener pastures elsewhere.

[Brian d marge]

Interesting little article here - How Empires End....http://www.internationalman.com/articles/how-empires-end

the summation ......
I had put pen to paper and had seven points
I had used rhe roman empire as a model see my posts about the gini in rome before its collapse 0.44 from memory compared to americas 0.42 at the moment and france 0.6 when heads were lost
The food price index is a good guide
One thing though germany and england both frm collapse one through the use of the tallystick the other by pegging to land
Under the tally stick england prospered and pegged to a hard asset germany also kinda prospered

Tapped out phone so not going into detail

[mashman]

Interesting little article here - How Empires End....http://www.internationalman.com/articles/how-empires-end

the summation ......

It is inevitable where a financial system is involved. Remove the financial factor from each of those 11 points and you can avert collapse. Alas, some folks just can't wrap their head around it... shame really as we'd all be riding hoverboards.

[mashman]

New EU Commission to be unveiled, draft line-up offers clues (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/germany-britain-belgium-powerful-posts-next-eu-commission-181900503--business.html#ASTO6CF)... coz more regulation and oversight is what's required in order to get the Euro block up and running again :facepalm:. Fuckin idiots.

[Brian d marge]

They're gearing up to something. (http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140907/DEFREG01/309070011/DoD-Georgian-MoD-Discuss-Black-Hawk-Helicopter-Sale?odyssey=mod_sectionstories). I can hear it now... "oi, pssst, the ruskies are comin after you once they've finished with Ukraine, best arm yourself quickly. We've got some cool helicopters you might be interested in, really cheap too."

Stupid, stupid world.

Iran first I reckon.


Seven countries in 5 years , that was the draft ....

meanwhile ...on humanitarian grounds ...The us has sent aid to the Ukraine ...

Snip
Bild cites sources who report that on April 29, Germany's Federal Intelligence Service (BND) informed the Angela Merkel government about Academi commandos' involvement in Kiev's military operations in eastern Ukraine. Spiegel adds (http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-400-us-soeldner-von-academi-kaempfen-gegen-separatisten-a-968745.html)that "the information originates from U.S. intelligence services and was presented during a meeting chaired by the Chancellor's Office chief Peter Altmaier (CDU). At the meeting were present the president of the intelligence agencies and the Federal Criminal Office, as well as the intelligence coordinator of the Chancellor's Office and senior Ministry officials."


oh those naughty blackwater fellas ..sorry Academi fellas

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

Talking about the stupids

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29139462

Idiot s

[Brian d marge]

so why are we using Gasoline????

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Stephen

[Brian d marge]

Evil not so banal, says disturbing new probe (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/evil-not-banal-says-disturbing-060928267.html#S9SIbrE). Sheeple research back in the day.

Evil

or

plain stupidity




http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M2

yup the m2 velocity is tanking !!! hahahahahahahaha


here it comes ............

Stephen

[mashman]

Evil

or

plain stupidity

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M

yup the m2 velocity is tanking !!! hahahahahahahaha


here it comes ............

Stephen

Evil playing on stupidity.

Yer link is missing a 2 at the end: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M2

[mashman]

Following weeks of financial propaganda, coz an independent Scotland would mean the end of civilisation as we know it, the nukes have finally hit the media (http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/news/scotland/trident-removal-dangerous-for-uk-1.568549)... and in typical propaganda fashion the warmongers are flapping their gums with nothing to back themselves up it would seem.

I hope they vote Yes (I would if I still lived there), as watching the money men run around like headless chickens (even more so than usual) would be exceptionally entertaining.

[Brian d marge]

Evil playing on stupidity.

Yer link is missing a 2 at the end: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M2
Inflation

And stupid phone

[mashman]

Inflation

And stupid phone

It's 1 tool.

Sure. Phone.

[mashman]

bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa How a Scottish exit could hit Britain's wealthy (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/scottish-exit-could-hit-britains-092227595.html). On no it's the rich people excuse... they pay more tax than anyone and we'll be screwed without them. They ain't got many more tricks left up their sleeves.

[Brian d marge]

bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa How a Scottish exit could hit Britain's wealthy (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/scottish-exit-could-hit-britains-092227595.html). On no it's the rich people excuse... they pay more tax than anyone and we'll be screwed without them. They ain't got many more tricks left up their sleeves.
Tell ya i wont be surprised if it doesnt happen rich fuckers dont like losing money hahahaha

[Akzle]

bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa How a Scottish exit could hit Britain's wealthy (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/scottish-exit-could-hit-britains-092227595.html). On no it's the rich people excuse... they pay more tax than anyone and we'll be screwed without them. They ain't got many more tricks left up their sleeves.

theres less and less pink on my maps by the decade....

[mashman]

Tell ya i wont be surprised if it doesnt happen rich fuckers dont like losing money hahahaha

Very true... although, they can't be that rich if they're living in the UK lol.

[mashman]

theres less and less pink on my maps by the decade....

That sounds like a euphemism for something I'm hesitant to follow up on.

[Akzle]

That sounds like a euphemism for something I'm hesitant to follow up on.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_the_British_Empire

[mashman]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_the_British_Empire

Cool map. Does it have one for goldman sachs?

[mashman]

The modern day equivalent of "off with his head" (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/24959076/camerons-job-at-risk-if-scotland-breaks-away/#). Isn't it exciting. The fight over RBoS should keep the lawyers happy... bet they're rootin for it :laugh:

[Akzle]

Cool map. Does it have one for goldman sachs?

'the city of london'...

[mashman]

'the city of london'...

Is that all. I thought they'd be bigger. I can take 'em.

[Brian d marge]

Is that all. I thought they'd be bigger. I can take 'em.

dont worry it will get bigger

Royal Bank of Scotland has confirmed it will relocate its registered headquarters to London if Scotland votes for independence next week.


Stephen

[mashman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpOP7N7to5U

[mashman]

Syrian opposition welcomes Obama's announcement (http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-opposition-welcomes-obamas-announcement-064335464.html)... Murderous wankers.

The most educated countries in the world (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-educated-countries-world-135700294.html)... Russia #1. Weren't the Iraqi's beating the US before they went on their usual murderous campaigns?

Student loan debt surges for senior citizens (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/student-loan-debt-surges-senior-211900000.html)... Stupid govts and stupid people for voting for those govts.

[mashman]

Boeing staff scared to fly on their own planes (https://nz.totaltravel.yahoo.com/news-opinions/news/a/-/24964010/boeing-staff-scared-to-fly-on-their-own-planes/)...

"This same (anonymous) employee asks 15 of his co-workers if they would fly on the Dreamliner planes. Ten of them say they would not, with one replying “we're not building them to fly. We're building them to sell. You know what I'm saying?”"

erm :shutup:

[SPman]

'the city of london'...Shouldn't that be "the city, in London".........

[Akzle]

Shouldn't that be "the city, in London".........

no. the city of london. not london city, as most would think of it. but the actual square mileage that is "the city of london". it being pwned by the city of london corporation....

[Brian d marge]

The squirrel master wont be here for you next time .........FRUIT


More words from brother Nate .......

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up and down ...up and down.....:banana:


Stephen

[oldrider]

Oops mashman sounds brother Nat is right onto your cashless society as a Zionist plan to take us over (Including our minds) entirely! :kick::thud:

I don't think brother Nat likes the Zionists too much! :rolleyes:

[yokel]

Oops mashman sounds brother Nat is right onto your cashless society as a Zionist plan to take us over (Including our minds) entirely! :kick::thud:

I don't think brother Nat likes the Zionists too much! :rolleyes:

Bro Nat use to be a jew so guess he has a insight or 2?
with facial recondition technology there will most likely be no need for bar codes on the back of your neck or ID cards

[mashman]

Oops mashman sounds brother Nat is right onto your cashless society as a Zionist plan to take us over (Including our minds) entirely! :kick::thud:

I don't think brother Nat likes the Zionists too much! :rolleyes:

:rofl:, fuck, I've been rooted out. Oh no, hang on... there's a rather large difference between a cashless society and one without a financial system.

Thing is, it doesn't matter who it is coz you heard the man, gimme control of the money supply etc... and there's always another waiting to take the throne. That's where it ends............. unless of course folk decide to vote for an R.B.E. as that'd kinda scupper their influence over an entire planet. Just sayin like :yes:

[mashman]

The squirrel master wont be here for you next time .........FRUIT

More words from brother Nate .......

up and down ...up and down.....:banana:

Stephen

Where there is darkness, there is also light ommmmmmmmmmm. True mind. "Mainstream" people are beginning to recognise an R.B.E. I bet it scares the living shit out of nickers smithy. His Nelson electorate is being contested by an R.B.E. advocate who also ran for mayor. He is gaining support and has been presenting the R.B.E. at the same gatherings as smiffy and a few others a lolly quote from their page being:

"You want everything to be free, and all work voluntary ?" Ministers Groser and Smith wrestle with the concept...

However he is gaining support slowly but surely and whilst he may not have a chance this time around, I reckon next time around will be a different story :yes:. The R.B.E. is a game changer. Maybe the Zorro's will breath a sigh of relief... well, stranger things have happened.

[avgas]

Bro Nat use to be a jew so guess he has a insight or 2?
with facial recondition technology there will most likely be no need for bar codes on the back of your neck or ID cards
What about the grain of "rice" (http://www.positiveidcorp.com/) they implant into every Child before the leave the hospital?

[Akzle]

What about the grain of "rice" (http://www.positiveidcorp.com/) they implant into every Child before the leave the hospital?

that whole taking the blood from the heel and cataloging it in central government files is a bit vampiric, too.

[avgas]

that whole taking the blood from the heel and cataloging it in central government files is a bit vampiric, too.
Well they had to create a new job for the postage stamp lickers when the made them redundant from the post-office. Think of it like a litmus test for crazy.

[blue rider]

the 23 year long war

http://digbysblog.blogspot.co.nz/2014/09/the-23-year-long-war.html

[Brian d marge]

the 23 year long war

http://digbysblog.blogspot.co.nz/2014/09/the-23-year-long-war.html
We have been at the infidels since salahadin was a lad and uncle richard popped over to sort it out

[oldrider]

the 23 year long war

http://digbysblog.blogspot.co.nz/2014/09/the-23-year-long-war.html

It's really Israel's war! ... The yanks simply supply the weapons and the foot soldiers as decreed by the USA Zionist lobby and the needs of Israel. :sick: . :brick:

Just don't tell America! :psst:

Americans think it is their idea because that's what their president wants them to think but if he tells the truth the Zionists will cut off his money and sack him! :bash:

Those who control the money also make the rules and the Zionist banks control world money! :yes: . Obama is simply their puppet president! :mellow:

[Brian d marge]

buy now and get one free only from KTEL

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Stephen

btw 300lb ...fkin whale

[mashman]

US govt warned Sotloff's parents of prosecution if they paid ransom - family spox (http://www.rt.com/usa/187728-sotloff-parents-ransom-prosecution/)...

"News of Sotloff's parents alleged warning came shortly after the mother of James Foley, another journalist murdered at the hands of Islamic State militants, told media that US officials repeatedly warned their family they may face criminal charges for supporting terrorism, when they considered paying a ransom.".

Well, given that the US trained and armed many of these guys, shouldn't the US govt? all be jailed for supporting terrorism?

[Brian d marge]

Are we here yet ,,,,are we here yet .....

Lordy lordy ......

http://youtu.be/E48QqcTOXeY


Stephen

[Brian d marge]

And when America says jump , we say how high sir........

Snip,

Phase one of Speargun - the tapping of the Southern Cross cable - was complete, according to the NSA slides. Phase two needed the law change. Snowden said last night: "It's very concerning when the NSA can propose a law to be put in place in New Zealand for the GCSB ... and the GCSB can start proposing programs that are unlawful at the time they are being considered and say 'hey pass a law to make this legal and we are going to go ahead and put this out there immediately'. Why are they even considering things that are not even legal?"


Stephen

[mashman]

And when America says jump , we say how high sir........

Snip,

Phase one of Speargun - the tapping of the Southern Cross cable - was complete, according to the NSA slides. Phase two needed the law change. Snowden said last night: "It's very concerning when the NSA can propose a law to be put in place in New Zealand for the GCSB ... and the GCSB can start proposing programs that are unlawful at the time they are being considered and say 'hey pass a law to make this legal and we are going to go ahead and put this out there immediately'. Why are they even considering things that are not even legal?"


Stephen

http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/7/77/Spanish_inquisition.jpg

That and it's likely that us human beings might tell them to fuck off. Well, at least a couple of us as the rest are seriously mentally deficient.

[Brian d marge]

That and it's likely that us human beings might tell them to fuck off. Well, at least a couple of us as the rest are seriously mentally deficient.

snIp;
March 20, 2012: The Iranian oil bourse will no longer trade oil in the US dollar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_dollar) but start trading oil in other currencies like the euro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro), yen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yen), yuan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan), rupee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupee) or a basket of currencies.[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_oil_bourse#cite_note-40)

OOHH how did I miss this ,,,,NOW all we we need is pipe line to by pass the the petro dollar ......

found it
The Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline (called the Friendship Pipeline by the governments involved and the Islamic gas pipeline by some Western sources[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline#cite_note-2)) is a proposed natural gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas) pipeline (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_transport) running from the Iranian-Qatari South Pars / North Dome Gas-Condensate field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pars_/_North_Dome_Gas-Condensate_field) field towards Europe via Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran), Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq), Syria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria) and Lebanon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon) to supply European customers as well as Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline#cite_note-UPI-1) The pipeline is planned to be 3480 miles long and have a diameter of 56 inches.[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline#cite_note-UPI-1)

and they didnt get an invite to the party .......


http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/deputy-pm-astonished-syria-not-invited-anti-isis-talks

also ....Mr President , you moran ......If you bomb syria, Iran, the real target ...the one that has an agreement with syria........Iran is going to get Miffed , and ,,,once one gets Miffed .......yeeeehaaaaaaaaaa

fun fun fun ......looks like Im getting a tv , but no fkin planet to watch it on

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Stephen

[mashman]

Brazil election poll shows very tight presidential race (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/25001184/brazil-election-poll-shows-very-tight-presidential-race/) (when it really really wasn't 6 months ago, although the tide was turning)

Wonder if she'll follow her predecessor (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/19/eduardo-campos-brazil-mourning-presidential)

[mashman]

5 Steps to Solving Money Fights in Marriage (http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/my-money/2013/09/13/5-steps-to-solving-money-fights-in-marriage)

6. Remove the financial system lol.......... it'll stop people from having kids because it earns them $.

[mashman]

snIp;
March 20, 2012: The Iranian oil bourse will no longer trade oil in the US dollar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_dollar) but start trading oil in other currencies like the euro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro), yen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yen), yuan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan), rupee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupee) or a basket of currencies.[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_oil_bourse#cite_note-40)

OOHH how did I miss this ,,,,NOW all we we need is pipe line to by pass the the petro dollar ......

found it
The Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline (called the Friendship Pipeline by the governments involved and the Islamic gas pipeline by some Western sources[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline#cite_note-2)) is a proposed natural gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas) pipeline (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_transport) running from the Iranian-Qatari South Pars / North Dome Gas-Condensate field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pars_/_North_Dome_Gas-Condensate_field) field towards Europe via Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran), Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq), Syria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria) and Lebanon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon) to supply European customers as well as Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline#cite_note-UPI-1) The pipeline is planned to be 3480 miles long and have a diameter of 56 inches.[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline#cite_note-UPI-1)

and they didnt get an invite to the party .......


http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/deputy-pm-astonished-syria-not-invited-anti-isis-talks

also ....Mr President , you moran ......If you bomb syria, Iran, the real target ...the one that has an agreement with syria........Iran is going to get Miffed , and ,,,once one gets Miffed .......yeeeehaaaaaaaaaa

fun fun fun ......looks like Im getting a tv , but no fkin planet to watch it on


Stephen

:killingme... ready, steady, yeah, nah. Oh shit, go go go.

[Brian d marge]

:killingme... ready, steady, yeah, nah. Oh shit, go go go.

And no house to live in

because

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/10510673/NZ-homes-among-least-affordable-BIS

because other people have lots more money and can .....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/10510536/Russian-pays-record-3m-for-Picton-home

meaning that every cracker under the sun will reckon his mud hut will be worth millions and the average punter will have to work 3 jobs just to pay the rent ....in the middle of Erewhon

one loves market forces ............

but dont worry the voice of NZ is ........People are just brought up to rely on handouts all the time now, They get the student loan first and spend it on cars and party's then they all of a sudden realise they need a mortgage to buy a house but need a deposit first and it's like "who gives you that” or “where do I go for that" . People just need to get real,do some hard work and save $$ instead of wasting it on stuff they don’t need like booze and drugs.


Then National will fix it for us .....just like Jim ....
http://www.apres.co.uk/ebay/img/badges/jimfixit.jpg


Im voting Maori .... the nice man with the tattoo , cant be worse than the current lot .....

http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1332238587/703/6608703.jpg


Stephen



People are just brought up to rely on handouts all the time now, They get the student loan first and spend it on cars and party's then they all of a sudden realise they need a mortgage to buy a house but need a deposit first and it's like "who gives you that” or “where do I go for that" . People just need to get real,do some hard work and save $$ instead of wasting it on stuff they don’t need like booze and drugs.

People are just brought up to rely on handouts all the time now, They get the student loan first and spend it on cars and party's then they all of a sudden realise they need a mortgage to buy a house but need a deposit first and it's like "who gives you that” or “where do I go for that" . People just need to get real,do some hard work and save $$ instead of wasting it on stuff they don’t need like booze and drugs.


Stephen

[mashman]

And no house to live in

because

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/10510673/NZ-homes-among-least-affordable-BIS

because other people have lots more money and can .....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/10510536/Russian-pays-record-3m-for-Picton-home

meaning that every cracker under the sun will reckon his mud hut will be worth millions and the average punter will have to work 3 jobs just to pay the rent ....in the middle of Erewhon

one loves market forces ............

but dont worry the voice of NZ is ........People are just brought up to rely on handouts all the time now, They get the student loan first and spend it on cars and party's then they all of a sudden realise they need a mortgage to buy a house but need a deposit first and it's like "who gives you that” or “where do I go for that" . People just need to get real,do some hard work and save $$ instead of wasting it on stuff they don’t need like booze and drugs.


Then National will fix it for us .....just like Jim ....


Im voting Maori .... the nice man with the tattoo , cant be worse than the current lot .....

http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1332238587/703/6608703.jpg


Stephen



People are just brought up to rely on handouts all the time now, They get the student loan first and spend it on cars and party's then they all of a sudden realise they need a mortgage to buy a house but need a deposit first and it's like "who gives you that” or “where do I go for that" . People just need to get real,do some hard work and save $$ instead of wasting it on stuff they don’t need like booze and drugs.

People are just brought up to rely on handouts all the time now, They get the student loan first and spend it on cars and party's then they all of a sudden realise they need a mortgage to buy a house but need a deposit first and it's like "who gives you that” or “where do I go for that" . People just need to get real,do some hard work and save $$ instead of wasting it on stuff they don’t need like booze and drugs.


Stephen

Aye, the uk's in a bit of a mess too house price wise (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/sep/16/house-prices-record-bubble-interest-rates-uk)... and you know the size of those houses :yes:. Value for money :rofl: aha, sure, why not, the economoney requires such to take place.

:killingme@


People are just brought up to rely on handouts all the time now, They get the student loan first and spend it on cars and party's then they all of a sudden realise they need a mortgage to buy a house but need a deposit first and it's like "who gives you that” or “where do I go for that" . People just need to get real,do some hard work and save $$ instead of wasting it on stuff they don’t need like booze and drugs. (2 times)

Economically shooting oneself in the foot in the persecution others. Stupid at best.

[mashman]

Oh noes, not the french too. France is 'sick', says new economy minister (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/25026324/france-is-sick-says-new-economy-minister/)... I find the solution particularly hilarious:

"The French government's response to the economic crisis is the so-called Responsibility Pact, a package of 40 billion euros ($52 billion) in tax breaks for business, financed with 50 billion euros in public spending cuts." :killingme :crybaby: :killingme

Subsidize business at the cost of the public :killingme.

[blue rider]

for mashman
:)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/17/1330375/-Strike-Debt-s-Rolling-Jubilee-Erases-4-000-000-in-Student-Loan-Debt-For-100-000

[mashman]

for mashman
:)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/17/1330375/-Strike-Debt-s-Rolling-Jubilee-Erases-4-000-000-in-Student-Loan-Debt-For-100-000

Ta muchly... saw it this morning as I get the Occupy updates. Amusingly enough, should world debt be the target of Occupy (and they get 2.5c per $), they'd only need to print $25 trillion to clear the $100 trillion of world debt. Then they could print $6.25 trillion, then $1.56 trillion, then $390 billion, all the way down to zero and the world would be debt free <_<

[oldrider]

With only one party on offer that wants to even "begin" to reform the nations criminal monetary system, why would you vote for anyone else? :facepalm:

At least I will be consistant and putting my vote where my mouth is! :yes: http://www.democrats.org.nz/

[mashman]

What's behind London's freak sidewalk explosions? (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/whats-behind-londons-freak-sidewalk-092213674.html)

"Basil Scarsella, Chief Executive Officer of UK Power Networks, told councillors for Westminster, a district in central London, that heavy rainfall was "more important" than aging infrastructure when it came the integrity of London's electricity cables ."

:rofl:... guess he'll be retiring soon then.

[Brian d marge]

What did I say about Scotland ......tha man dont like losing his money and 24 billion in oil aint to be sneezed at ......

Funny that ,

but the people have spoken........ Yeah right , conned would be a better word , me thinks

Stephen

[mashman]

What did I say about Scotland ......tha man dont like losing his money and 24 billion in oil aint to be sneezed at ......

Funny that ,

but the people have spoken........ Yeah right , conned would be a better word , me thinks

Stephen

Or 1.5 trillion as one article had valued it as.

I'm not surprised by the Glasgow vote in the slightest. Tis a shame they didn't vote Yes. I'd love to know why, because if the financial propaganda won (which I suspect), then the Scots missed a trick by forgetting that they could become a tax haven should they choose.

But yah, peeps have spoken... if you believe that that's what they wanted :shifty:.

[Brian d marge]

Meanwhile in the rest of the world ..

Dump those dollars,,,,,, it makes the man mad ...real mad ....

Go China !!!!! Red team go , red team go !


http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/05/31/364945/us-reacting-to-chinas-no-to-dollar/


Yeeehaaaaaa Ill get a tv for xmas !


Stephen

[blue rider]

for mashman


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jnf9GILjFM

[mashman]

for mashman

Carlin classic

The man has a fine point.

[Brian d marge]

oldies again

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In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert discuss the United Kingdom waking up to a new motto: “IT’S NOT WORTH THE RISK,” following the outcome of the Scottish independence referendum. They look at the breakdown on who voted for independence (the under 54’s) and who didn’t back independence (the over 55’s) so as the taxpayer owned Royal Bank of Scotland said of the result, “It’s business as usual.” In the second half, Max interviews an investor, who unlike 55% of the population of Scotland, truly has no fear about taking risks, Brock Pierce. Max and Brock discuss bitcoin as the internet 2.0 and what the future holds for the technology.

Stephen

ps watch for the poke at the media controllers

[Scuba_Steve]

National won... That is all

[oldrider]

A yes vote with an overhaul of the monetary system and a break out from the IMF and world bank, possibly joining BRICS would have been something!

We all know that that was never going to happen so all that would have actually happened is that the Zionists would have screwed Scotland over!

The Zionist plan is to crush and obliterate the British empire, the comonwealth and finally pick the bones of the UK until it's dead ... are they there yet! ... ALMOST!

Scotland independance "foiled" was simply a last gasp of a dying regime being slowly crushed by world Zionisim set out in "The Balfour Declaration" of 1917.

If you want to read that declaration go here: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p389_John.html

[Brian d marge]

For surrender monkeys they do alright ....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29294096

the training camps would be much better than the Arab ones ..long lunch with a bottle of Bordeaux some nice cheese before a spot of shouting in the afternoon ,

The only goat to be seen would be in the curry .......Hmmmmm might Join

Stefan

[SPman]

Craig Murray, who was an enthusiastic yes supporter sums it up.....
What Did You Expect? (http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/what-did-you-expect/) by craig on September 20, 2014


I have no sympathy at all for anybody who voted No on the grounds of the pledges by Brown, Miliband, Cameron and Clegg about constitutional change, and is now whingeing about the blatant dishonour of those pledges. I cannot understand how anybody could be so stupid as to have believed them, and yet have a brain capable of sparking respiration.
Labour is interested in losing no influence of Scottish Labour MPs on any UK or English matters. It wants greater powers to English metropolitan councils which are controlled by Labour – because that will give Labour careerists more jobs and access to contracts. Those are Labours “constitutional reform” goals. The Conservatives “constitutional reform” goals are to keep Scotland’s tax on oil revenues and tax on whisky coming to Westminster, while loading greater responsibilities but no more money on the Scottish parliament, and stopping Scottish MPs voting on English matters thus guaranteeing conservative apparatchiks continued jobs and access to contracts.
Both Tories and Labour want to keep the appalling corrupt and undemocratic House of Lords for its jobs for apparatchiks, access to contracts etc.
Nobody cares what the Lib Dems think anyway.
I ask again – what did you expect?

[yokel]

Ok so whats the guts with TPPA shit then?
why was I not consulted haha

fuck you donkey!

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[oldrider]

Ok so whats the guts with TPPA shit then?

Very important to keep this TPPA right up front and controlled (yes or no) by the people rather than John Key and his cronies! (they work for us remember) :shifty:

Sunday (today) was the first day of the rest of our lives! ... Don't overlook that fact, we must become seriously more politically aware over this next three years! :yes:

[Brian d marge]

Ok so whats the guts with TPPA shit then?
why was I not consulted haha

fuck you donkey!

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In a nut shell corporate usa makes the rules and any local idiosyncratic ideas such as acc can go and fk right off

Bend over like u have never known it before

[SPman]

s! ... Don't overlook that fact, we must become seriously more politically aware over this next three years! :yes:Nah - f**k that - I think I'll become less so - being aware only leads to hair loss........and I don't like the bald look...........:niceone:

[mashman]

Ok so whats the guts with TPPA shit then?
why was I not consulted haha

fuck you donkey!

Can't wait for it to be signed into existence!

[Brian d marge]

Here we go ....

stand back and watch the death throws of a ,sic , super power ....

yeeeehaaa ....100 inch plasma with in home theatre ...here I come


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-14/it-begins-past-week-foreigners-sell-record-amount-over-100-billion-treasurys-held-fe


well some one dumped something ....

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/WMTSECL1

Stephen

[mashman]

Typical that the old bastards fucked it up for Scotland (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/25067883/scots-voted-no-over-economic-worries/#). They should be giving the future generation what they want instead of being allowed to vote for the old ways :shifty:

[mashman]

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa (https://nz.totaltravel.yahoo.com/news-opinions/news/a/-/25072384/doodling-man-booted-from-flight-in-melb/)... dammit... t'was always my favourite thing in the world to do when on planes too.

[SPman]

And around 25 percent said it was the promise of new powers for the devolved Scottish Parliament that would result in "the best of both worlds". Well, they fell in, didn't they, as tory blue, tory red and tory....whatever backpedal as fast as they can........!!

[Brian d marge]

Typical that the old bastards fucked it up for Scotland (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/25067883/scots-voted-no-over-economic-worries/#). They should be giving the future generation what they want instead of being allowed to vote for the old ways :shifty:
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/21/f626f3b4c97d56331bbed114ce56e623.jpg

Twitter data backed this up

Frightened people voting for the devil we know

[mashman]

Twitter data backed this up

Frightened people voting for the devil we know

lol@data (2000 people). I was amused to see that SNP put all of their eggs into the nationalist basket instead of focusing on the likes of economic policy, currency, finances etc... I was laughing at the fear that businesses would up and eff-off, primarily as Scotland would have been able to set it's own taxation "terms". Tax free haven anyone? Anyway, they fought the wrong fight and should have fought for the minds instead.

[Brian d marge]

Typical that the old bastards fucked it up for Scotland (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/25067883/scots-voted-no-over-economic-worries/#). They should be giving the future generation what they want instead of being allowed to vote for the old ways :shifty:
Student loans

Neo conservative economics

Welfare cost

The shitty weather in southland

And the reason im not rich

All the fault of


Old people

[mashman]

Student loans

Neo conservative economics

Welfare cost

The shitty weather in southland

And the reason im not rich

All the fault of


Old people

Best hope we don't run out of coffee... the horror. the horror.

[Brian d marge]

Old people dont coffee do they???

Maybe if we change the flag they might go away

[mashman]

Old people dont coffee do they???

Maybe if we change the flag they might go away

Sorry, had an airplane moment... seemed apt ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA

A new flag could work if it had jk's face on it. He's a nice guy.

[Brian d marge]

Sorry, had an airplane moment... seemed apt ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA

A new flag could work if it had jk's face on it. He's a nice guy.
Hahahahahaaa that sums it up nicely . . .
A friend said , . .when the big boys start running around in big boy boots . Time to live in the chathams

[mashman]

Hahahahahaaa that sums it up nicely . . .
A friend said , . .when the big boys start running around in big boy boots . Time to live in the chathams

I'm gonna need a bigger boat.

[SPman]

Student loans

Neo conservative economics

Welfare cost

The shitty weather in southland

And the reason im not rich

All the fault of


Old peopleThat would be....people over the age of 85.......:yes:

[SPman]

Club Orlov has a nice little post last week.......
..............If you had told someone on September 10, 2001 that ten years later America would be running $1.5 trillion annual deficits, fighting two wars of choice in countries that despise our presence, and had not only not addressed the $100 [trillion] of unfunded welfare liabilities but added billions more with Medicare D and Obamacare, they would have thought you were a crazy doomster predicting the end of the world. They would have put you away in a padded cell if you had further predicted that politicians would cut taxes three separate times, that the Wall Street banks that leveraged themselves 40 to 1 and destroyed the financial system [would be] handed $2 trillion of taxpayer funds so they could pay themselves multi-million dollar bonuses, and that the Federal Reserve would triple its balance sheet to $2.45 trillion by running its printing presses at hyper-speed and handing the money to those same Wall Street Mega-Banks...........


............................

Back to the question of stupidity: Why are we (as a country) being so fucking stupid? This question has puzzled me for some time. It appears that the problem of stupidity is quite pervasive: look at any large human organization, and you will find that it is ruled by stupidity. I was not the first to stumble across the conjecture that the intelligence of a hierarchically organized group of people is inversely proportional to its size, but so far the mechanism that makes it so has eluded me. Clearly, there is something amiss with hierarchically organized groups, something that causes all of them to eventually collapse, but what exactly is it? To try to get at this question, last year I spent quite a while researching anarchy, and wrote a series of articles on it (Part I (http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/10/in-praise-of-anarchy-part-i.html), Part II (http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/10/in-praise-of-anarchy-part-ii.html), Part III (http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/10/in-praise-of-anarchy-part-iii.html)). I discovered that vast hierarchies do not occur in nature, which is anarchic and self-organizing, with no chains of command and no entities in supreme command. I discovered that anarchic organizations can go on forever while hierarchical ones inevitably end in collapse.............

post http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2014/09/understanding-organizational-stupidity.html#more

[mashman]

US: Homelessness increases among school children (http://news.yahoo.com/homelessness-increases-among-school-children-185932587--politics.html)

Coz psychopaths (http://news.yahoo.com/boehner-says-unemployed-don-t-really-want-jobs-172131239.html)

[SPman]

US: Homelessness increases among school children (http://news.yahoo.com/homelessness-increases-among-school-children-185932587--politics.html)

Coz psychopaths (http://news.yahoo.com/boehner-says-unemployed-don-t-really-want-jobs-172131239.html)

Snap - I was just reading this.....http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/22/opinion/paul-krugman-those-lazy-jobless.html?_r=0

[mashman]

Snap - I was just reading this.....http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/22/opinion/paul-krugman-those-lazy-jobless.html?_r=0

Well Mr Krugman, it's called an entitlement complex... boner and his chums believe that they have earned what they have acquired (they haven't, they've stolen it) and that they have accrued what they have in a fair way and that anyone who does not put in the equivalent effort and yield the same result is to be deemed as less entitled to everything. That they believe that their input is more important than those who keep the lights on in the u.s. is hilarious as they could not survive without those who they deem to be less entitled (whilst using the "free market" and legislation to underpin their pathetic need to be superior). NZ is becoming the u.s., just as the u.k. did before it and the sheep, using the keeping up with the jones's mantra, keep on following what they believe is a recipe for producing success. Idiotic at best, but hey, some people just don't have the capacity for rational thought coz it would require that they also felt.

Sigh.

[mashman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nwnZYX4tB4

[Brian d marge]

Club Orlov has a nice little post last week.......

post http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2014/09/understanding-organizational-stupidity.html#more


Lovely little ditti for the oldies then.......

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Stephen

[mashman]

Lovely little ditti for the oldies then.......

Stephen

Don't post shit like that as you'll drive the ACC hearing aid repair bill through the roof. Much better:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj0ChLVTpaA

[Brian d marge]

And its not even Xmas yet ......I must get off me arse and see whats in the shops ......

Because these idiots , have finally done it ,,,,,,

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29321136

and we all know who has an agreement with one and the other !


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3263739,00.html

So we just sit back and see the response


Wot an absolute arsse the warmongering pricks are


but dont worry We get a new Flag , that will fool em !!!

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/styles/fullsize/public/images/maori-national-flag.gif?itok=2vUNwQv5


Stephen

with musical background as suggested
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[mashman]

I was looking for the article that Iran had recently allowed a chinese warship to dock. Little did I know that whist searching that I'd find some fear that's putting the west and the east in close proximity with each other i.e. syria. The great game of chicken goes on :facepalm:

Have some fear:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNialNqmFh0

[mashman]

"The Israeli army says it has killed two Palestinians suspected of kidnapping and murdering three Israeli teenagers in June."

"We have visual confirmation for one. The second one, we have no visual confirmation, but the assumption is he was killed." (http://www.rt.com/news/189812-suspect-israeli-teen-killed/)

Eh? Is there anyone left that isn't trying to kill someone?

[Brian d marge]

"There is plenty in that for Tony Abbott to emulate: even more so as the scale of the National Party's success is only rivaled by that of Labour's humiliation."
Meanwhile in Israel, the Haaretz newspaper reported that Jewish people in New Zealand would be "relieved" at Key's re-election.
"Jogn Key's government has in the past shown greater sympathy to Israel and the Jewish community than the previous government, and during the most recent conflict with Gaza the foreign affairs department was not very outspoken and was reasonably balanced in their comments," Jewish Federation of New Zealand president Alison Dyson told the paper.


Now that is a surprise.......

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

Jamie want big boom boom

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/22/us/us-ramping-up-major-renewal-in-nuclear-arms.html?_r=0


Stephen

[yokel]

get ready to say good by to the middle class, and may other things

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[Brian d marge]

get ready to say good by to the middle class, and may other things

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Middle class went back in the late 80s . .
Sorry to report

[yokel]

Middle class went back in the late 80s . .
Sorry to report

all the wealth in the middle class has been transferred to the elite since the 1950's
I wonder who thinks their kiwisaver will still be there when they retire? haha

[Brian d marge]

America to send up to 3000 troops to help Ebola

Snip
WASHINGTON — Under pressure to do more to confront the Ebola outbreak sweeping across West Africa, President Obama on Tuesday is to announce an expansion of military and medical resources to combat the spread of the deadly virus, administration officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/world/africa/obama-to-announce-expanded-effort-against-ebola.html

Handy dandy to , can set up a few command centres , ...Help Syria to win the war ...........:brick:

Stephen

[Akzle]

America to send up to 3000 troops to help Ebola

yeeeeaaaaa!
bomb the fuck out of that cunt!

o....wait on...

[avgas]

America to send up to 3000 troops to help Ebola
That should really help it.
It keeps running out of stupid Africans to spread, but seems to spread well onto stupid Americans.

But don't worry about the Americans - "God" will save them (http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dr-Kent-Brantly-Releases-Statement-From-Hospital-Isolation-Room-Ebola-270504661.html)

[SPman]

Just been reading Dmitry Orlovs "The Five Stages Of Collapse". Interesting stuff.


Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in "business as usual" is lost. The future is no longer assumed resemble the past in any way that allows risk to be assessed and financial assets to be guaranteed. Financial institutions become insolvent; savings are wiped out, and access to capital is lost.

Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that "the market shall provide" is lost. Money is devalued and/or becomes scarce, commodities are hoarded, import and retail chains break down, and widespread shortages of survival necessities become the norm.

Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that "the government will take care of you" is lost. As official attempts to mitigate widespread loss of access to commercial sources of survival necessities fail to make a difference, the political establishment loses legitimacy and relevance.

Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that "your people will take care of you" is lost, as local social institutions, be they charities or other groups that rush in to fill the power vacuum run out of resources or fail through internal conflict.

Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in the goodness of humanity is lost. People lose their capacity for "kindness, generosity, consideration, affection, honesty, hospitality, compassion, charity" (Turnbull, The Mountain People). Families disband and compete as individuals for scarce resources. The new motto becomes "May you die today so that I die tomorrow" (Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago).

The thing is, ALL civilisations/societies collapse at some point - it's just a matter of when.

The USSR collapse of 1991 got as far as stage 3 before it was pulled back, due to the structure of Russian society more than anything else - when the US goes, it'll probably go all the way (as they tend to do anyway....)


The "Limits to growth" study in 1972, often derided and marginalised, but frequently updated and checked against "progress", still suggests we are on track for societal collapse by mid 21st century. Combined with some predictions of runaway global warming of up to 4C by 2050,
Some reports by the likes of the World Bank, pdfs here, (http://www.unric.org/en/images/stories/2012/pdf/Turn_Down_the_heat_Why_a_4_degree_centrigrade_warm er_world_must_be_avoided.pdf) and here (http://www.worldbank.org/content/dam/Worldbank/document/Full_Report_Vol_2_Turn_Down_The_Heat_ Climate_Extremes_Regional_Impacts_Case_for_Resilie nce_Print version_FINAL.pdf) , the International Energy Agency (http://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/english.pdf) and Price Waterhouse Cooper (http://www.pwc.com/gx/en/sustainability/publications/low-carbon-economy-index/index.jhtml) suggest that 4 degrees C of warming above pre-industrial global temperatures could be experienced by as early as 2040-2050 . ( p1 para 4 and 5 (http://www.bristol.ac.uk/cabot/documents/anderson-transcript.pdf))
4 degrees warming isn’t an option for us either biologically or in terms of having a civilisation. That level of warming is widely seen within the scientific community as being incompatible with any kind of organised global community. So we have to avoid it. No ‘ifs’ and no ‘buts’.
It could well be an interesting next 30 yrs! What a bugger I won't be around to see it.......

[Brian d marge]

Just been reading Dmitry Orlovs "The Five Stages Of Collapse". Interesting stuff.



The thing is, ALL civilisations/societies collapse at some point - it's just a matter of when.

The USSR collapse of 1991 got as far as stage 3 before it was pulled back, due to the structure of Russian society more than anything else - when the US goes, it'll probably go all the way (as they tend to do anyway....)


The "Limits to growth" study in 1972, often derided and marginalised, but frequently updated and checked against "progress", still suggests we are on track for societal collapse by mid 21st century. Combined with some predictions of runaway global warming of up to 4C by 2050,
4 degrees warming isn’t an option for us either biologically or in terms of having a civilisation. That level of warming is widely seen within the scientific community as being incompatible with any kind of organised global community. So we have to avoid it. No ‘ifs’ and no ‘buts’.
It could well be an interesting next 30 yrs! What a bugger I won't be around to see it.......
Noo i had my heart set on a new tv by xmas

[Brian d marge]

A couple of years ago Russia said this ......

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/6057.htm

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

and a few min ago ISIS said this ....

http://www.memrijttm.org/responding-to-us-led-campaign-is-spokesman-calls-to-kill-westerners-soldiers-or-civilians-by-any-means-possible.html

had some nice things to say about Obama

Snip

Obama, "The Mule Of The Jews", Thinks America's Arm Is Long, But He Should Know That "Our Blade Is Hard And Sharp, And Will Chop Off Hands And Heads"
Addressing Obama, Al-'Adnani says: "O Obama, O mule of the Jews, you are despicable, despicable, despicable. Is this all you have managed to arrange as a war against us? Has America reached such a degree of weakness and helplessness? Is America and all its allies, from the Crusaders to the infidels, unable to wage a ground campaign? Have you not understood, O Crusaders, that a war [fought] by means of agents will not avail you, and will not avail him [Obama]? Have you not understood, O mule of the Jews, that the campaign will never be decided from the air alone? Do you think you are cleverer than the imbecilic [George] Bush, who came [to Iraq] with Crusader armies and took them right into the lion's den the mujahideen on the ground? No, you are [even] stupider than he was." He continues: "You said, O mule of the Jews, that America will not be dragged into a ground war, but it will [indeed] sink into a ground [war] and will be dragged to its death, to its grave and to its destruction. O, Obama, you said that the long arm of America will reach any [target] it wished. But know that our blade is hard and sharp, and will chop off hands and heads, and the eye of your Lord is ever watchful."


Then some things to Europe , luckily NZ isnt worth worrying about !


Addressing the American and European people, Al-'Adnani adds: "The IS did not launch a war against you, as your lying governments and your media claim. You are the ones who initiated hostilities against us, and the [side] that initiates hostilities is the evil one. You will pay [for it] dearly when your economies collapse. You will pay dearly when your sons are sent to fight us and return crippled and damaged, in coffins or as lunatics. You will pay when each of you feels afraid to travel abroad. You will pay when you walk the streets in trepidation, for fear of the Muslims. You will not be safe in your own beds. You will pay the price when your Crusader war fails, and then we invade the very heart of your countries. After that you will never again be aggressive towards anyone..." Turning to the Muslims, he warns them about the hypocrisy of the Americans and their allies, saying that the Americans are not coming to protect the innocent, as they claim, but only to protect their interest in Erbil and Iraq.

[B]"If You Are Able To Kill An American Or European Infidel... Then Put Your Trust In Allah And Kill Him"


what a nice man , a very very nice man

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[mashman]

and a few min ago ISIS said this ....

http://www.memrijttm.org/responding-to-us-led-campaign-is-spokesman-calls-to-kill-westerners-soldiers-or-civilians-by-any-means-possible.html

Stephen

I wonder if they have a safe word? I mean, sometimes you can't tell a muslim from a christian when they're walking down the street, so there must be a safe word, there must be.

[mashman]

Money leading the charge yet again: Huge fishing fraud suspected (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/huge-fishing-fraud-suspected-233648800.html)

[mashman]

"Your future will be my past" - Second World War veteran, 91-year-old Harry Smith upstages Ed Miliband at the Labour Party Conference with a speech that reduces politicians to tears. (https://uk.screen.yahoo.com/nhs-issues-and-facts/mr-cameron-keep-mitts-off-124502596.html?vp=1)

[oldrider]

Money leading the charge yet again: Huge fishing fraud suspected (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/huge-fishing-fraud-suspected-233648800.html)

True! Always money at the root of every problem but average political pundits will never face up to it's reality!

Resounding win by National completely overshadowed by constant publicity for Labour over it's leadership failure and failure at the polls!

Every newspaper you pick up is full of it, TV news is full of it, there is no doubt about where the media is centred politically in New Zealand! :yes:

[oldrider]

"Your future will be my past" - Second World War veteran, 91-year-old Harry Smith upstages Ed Miliband at the Labour Party Conference with a speech that reduces politicians to tears. (https://uk.screen.yahoo.com/nhs-issues-and-facts/mr-cameron-keep-mitts-off-124502596.html?vp=1)

That link wont open ... Labour and media only want maximum exposure for the Labour leadership crisis at the moment! :Pokey:

[mashman]

That link wont open ... Labour and media only want maximum exposure for the Labour leadership crisis at the moment! :Pokey:

Have a boobtoob version:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF1JiUx437M

Politics is all about who can shout loudest and scream the right things innit. It can, and will, be used against itself.

[SPman]

True! Always money at the root of every problem but average political pundits will never face up to it's reality!

Resounding win by National completely overshadowed by constant publicity for Labour over it's leadership failure and failure at the polls!

Every newspaper you pick up is full of it, TV news is full of it, there is no doubt about where the media is centred politically in New Zealand! :yes:It's centered on trashing and marginalising any opposition to national..........

[oldrider]

It's centered on trashing and marginalising any opposition to national..........

True but how do you reconcile the constant pushing of Labour (for whatever reason) into the front pages of almost every news paper in the country?

Might be a bit hard for you to gage from over there but is sure stands out like dogs balls here, where I am!

Remember tha old adage: "The only bad publicity is no publicity"!

[mashman]

‘Anti-nuclear’ Obama plans to spend $1 trillion on nukes (http://rt.com/usa/189660-obama-trillion-nuclear-times/)

[oldrider]

Have a boobtoob version:

Politics is all about who can shout loudest and scream the right things innit. It can, and will, be used against itself.

OK fair enough, I live practically right where the foundations of our NZ welfare system grew out of and frequently ask my self the question, if we led the world then, why do we not lead it now?

If Britain and it's NHS led the world why is it falling around their necks now?

The reason always come down to the fact that whatever social advance our world makes, it is never very long before it gets choked to death by Debt!

The financial compounding debt system is the enemy and until that strangle hold is ripped away and the orthodox political parties stop pandering to it, nothing will change!

We can send vehicles to outer space and back and yet we can not maintain a monetary system to sustain our everyday lives without war booms and bust economics!

WHY?

It is not a fluke that this happens, it is engineered on purpose and that purpose and it's perpetrators need to be rooted out flayed to death and corrected!

Then and only then might you see some real social justice and peace in the world!

That is the conclusion my life experience has taught me and I believe that the perpetrators while obvious are protected by the very people that need them to be gone!

[yokel]

People like being told what they want to hear, that's why we're fucked!

[SPman]

True but how do you reconcile the constant pushing of Labour (for whatever reason) into the front pages of almost every news paper in the country?

Might be a bit hard for you to gage from over there but is sure stands out like dogs balls here, where I am!

They're the easiest target and old habits die hard - keep hammering the biggest opposition party and take the odd opportunity to snipe at the lesser ones - continued bad coverage is like water torture, gradually wearing down "the others" Throw enough mud and some will stick. A bit like policy - National had fuck allexcept business as usual, and the msm didn't report on any of the rest, unless they could get a snide dig in and run it down. But quite happy to headline manufactured lies about Labour and Cunliffe.

I'm pretty aware of the papers over there - the wonders (or not) of the net. Perhaps I should just say fuck it, pull my head back into the sand like the rest of the population and ignore what's going on, but, I'm a 5th generation Euro with kids and grandkids over there and often, you can get a clearer picture of events by standing back a bit with a critical eye......


The reason always come down to the fact that whatever social advance our world makes, it is never very long before it gets choked to death by Debt! There's a good explanation of that in "The Five Stages Of Collapse" by Dmity Orlov. Makes interesting reading and he has a humourous style that makes it easy to read as well....

[mashman]

OK fair enough, I live practically right where the foundations of our NZ welfare system grew out of and frequently ask my self the question, if we led the world then, why do we not lead it now?

If Britain and it's NHS led the world why is it falling around their necks now?

The reason always come down to the fact that whatever social advance our world makes, it is never very long before it gets choked to death by Debt!

The financial compounding debt system is the enemy and until that strangle hold is ripped away and the orthodox political parties stop pandering to it, nothing will change!

We can send vehicles to outer space and back and yet we can not maintain a monetary system to sustain our everyday lives without war booms and bust economics!

WHY?

It is not a fluke that this happens, it is engineered on purpose and that purpose and it's perpetrators need to be rooted out flayed to death and corrected!

Then and only then might you see some real social justice and peace in the world!

That is the conclusion my life experience has taught me and I believe that the perpetrators while obvious are protected by the very people that need them to be gone!

We've gone from being people focused to economy focused. It's arse about face as people are sacrificed to make the economy look like it's working. Man built the economy to serve man, yet uses the economy to destroy man... and psycho's in da house don't help. An interesting reflection on the population and their tendencies to vote for those who they see as being better than them.

Because of the right whinge ideology. I've seen estimates that state that the NHS will cost 4 times as much to run in private hands (calculated using the u.s. model). It makes money!

Behaviour driven by budget constraint. It's no more complicated than that.

Any financial system will fail where the human being is removed from the equation that measures the goals.

lol, we're great aren't we... but be fair, money doesn't grow on trees so you need death and chaos in order to make money. That what we see is oft touted as normality shows just how stupid we are :laugh:

Look at every single question you have and then remove the financial system. Do those questions still exist.

[Oscar]

Because of the right whinge ideology. I've seen estimates that state that the NHS will cost 4 times as much to run in private hands (calculated using the u.s. model). It makes money!

.

Propagandist shit.
For all the good it would do, you might as well calculate using the Icelandic model.
Where do you get this crap?
Why would you use the US model to compare a possible privatised UK system?

[mashman]

Propagandist shit.
For all the good it would do, you might as well calculate using the Icelandic model.
Where do you get this crap?
Why would you use the US model to compare a possible privatised UK system?

Is it? Prove it!
Icelandic model? You mean the one where they kicked the govt out of town, jailed the bankers and told the EU and the world banks to fuck right off? That Iceland. Yah see, I really don't think you thought that through.
Have you heard of Clive Peedell?
Duh!

[Oscar]

Is it? Prove it!
Icelandic model? You mean the one where they kicked the govt out of town, jailed the bankers and told the EU and the world banks to fuck right off? That Iceland. Yah see, I really don't think you thought that through.
Have you heard of Clive Peedell?
Duh!

The Icelandic reference was humour, but since humour requires intellect, I guess you didn't get it.
I don't have to prove anything, you're the one saying that the US model can be used for the UK.
Prove it or have another rant, I don't care - you're wrong as usual....

[Brian d marge]

it is engineered on purpose and that purpose and it's perpetrators need to be rooted out flayed to death and corrected! !

it is happening , slowly .

I just need people to well ...here s my action list .....

Challenge the TINA ( there is no alternative ) syndrome ..
* Promote informed debate and critique ..
* Promote participatory democracy ..
* Embrace the Treaty of Waitangi as a liberating force ..
* Encourage progressive counter-nationalism ..
* Develop multi-level strategies ..
* Hold the line ..
* Localise politics ..
* Ginger up party politics ..
* Invest in the future ..
* Support those who speak out ..
* Promote ethical investment ..
* Think global, act local ..
* Think local, act global ..


can just call a spade a spade , John key is a lyin cnt ..and the rest of them aint so hot either

Stephen

[mashman]

The Icelandic reference was humour, but since humour requires intellect, I guess you didn't get it.
I don't have to prove anything, you're the one saying that the US model can be used for the UK.
Prove it or have another rant, I don't care - you're wrong as usual....

I wouldn't even call that a near decent recovery.
Of course you do. You jerked and went for propaganda, I gave you the name of the person in order to help you with your edification.
I did prove it, you failed in your due diligence. Your issue, not mine, thank fuck.

[Brian d marge]

fk me its true

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6057734.stm

I think the evidence has just been presented .....

Stephen

[mashman]

fk me its true

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6057734.stm

I think the evidence has just been presented .....

Stephen

Awwwww, look at the little fat kid... so sweet (I don't think we need to wait that long eh :shifty:)

[Brian d marge]

Is it? Prove it!
Icelandic model? You mean the one where they kicked the govt out of town, jailed the bankers and told the EU and the world banks to fuck right off? That Iceland. Yah see, I really don't think you thought that through.
Have you heard of Clive Peedell?
Duh!

from the white paper liberating the nhs

Snip

Of course, our massive deficit and growing debt
means there are some difficult decisions to
make. The NHS is not immune from those challenges. But far from that being reason to
abandon reform, it demands that we accelerate it
. Only by putting patients first and trusting
professionals will we drive up standards, deliver better value for money and create a healthier
nation

gold right there.......hahahahahahahahahaaaa

Stephen

[mashman]

from the white paper liberating the nhs

Snip

Of course, our massive deficit and growing debt
means there are some difficult decisions to
make. The NHS is not immune from those challenges. But far from that being reason to
abandon reform, it demands that we accelerate it
. Only by putting patients first and trusting
professionals will we drive up standards, deliver better value for money and create a healthier
nation

gold right there.......hahahahahahahahahaaaa

Stephen

Fucksake I'm glad I'm alive given that the NHS hasn't been putting patients first all of these years. WHEW!

[Oscar]

I wouldn't even call that a near decent recovery.
Of course you do. You jerked and went for propaganda, I gave you the name of the person in order to help you with your edification.
I did prove it, you failed in your due diligence. Your issue, not mine, thank fuck.

That's nice, you obviously have more issues to deal with.
My only issue is that your rantings here are becoming boring and predictable, and I can't be fucked engaging anymore.
The thrill is gone, up your bloody game...

[mashman]

That's nice, you obviously have more issues to deal with.
My only issue is that your rantings here are becoming boring and predictable, and I can't be fucked engaging anymore.
The thrill is gone, up your bloody game...

Nope.
Bye.
Nope.

[Banditbandit]

fk me its true

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6057734.stm

I think the evidence has just been presented .....

Stephen

Just remember - the Morlocks (underclass) rounded up and ate the Eloi (elite) ...

[mashman]

Just remember - the Morlocks (underclass) rounded up and ate the Eloi (elite) ...

How uncivilised... and I thought they ate cake. Do the elite taste like cake?

[Ocean1]

The thrill is gone, up your bloody game...

Look on the bright side: At least he's restricting his excremental gibberish to the single most appropriately named thread in the history of the internets.







:rolleyes:

[Brian d marge]

Look on the bright side: At least he's restricting his excremental gibberish to the single most appropriately named thread in the history of the internets.







:rolleyes:
Of which you both are contributing to

Stephen

[mashman]

A Ukip donor has called for an English referendum on ejecting Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland from the United Kingdom. (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukip-donor-issues-referendum-call-125748128.html) :killingme

[MisterD]

Where's the petition, I'm signing.

[Brian d marge]

kill the poor ...ship em off to Australia !

well thats wot they reckon in my hometown ........
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[mashman]

kill the poor ...ship em off to Australia !

well thats wot they reckon in my hometown ........


Watched the trews earlier. Fuckin good on them girls. It's an epidemic of political stupidity across the entire euro block at least (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/23/europe-11m-empty-properties-enough-house-homeless-continent-twice)

"More than 11m homes lie empty across Europe – enough to house all of the continent's homeless twice over – according to figures collated by the Guardian from across the EU.". Puffed up smidgens of blowfish shit that they are (which is a self-destructive need to defy authority apparantly). Ach, delivery is everything:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VklQQrb9-4c

One of my all time fave movies.

[Brian d marge]

I used to squat in london for many years , some very nice places we lived in as well , One would be worth millions now , empty to make way for a wider north circular rd ,,,,, which never happened as far as I know ........the place had velvet drapes , fitted kitchen 5 bedrooms , a separate garage and nice back garden ....

fk em

Stephen

[mashman]

I used to squat in london for many years , some very nice places we lived in as well , One would be worth millions now , empty to make way for a wider north circular rd ,,,,, which never happened as far as I know ........the place had velvet drapes , fitted kitchen 5 bedrooms , a separate garage and nice back garden ....

fk em

Stephen

We're all squatters man :laugh:... but yeah, saw a doco where they went by some knightsbridge and mayfair apartments that had been left to accrue money. Likely an awesome tax deduction without the hassle of tenants.

[mashman]

Pentagon denies civilian deaths in Syria bombing – so far (http://rt.com/usa/190768-pentagon-civilian-deaths-syria/)... I believe 'em, don't you?

Victim to blame for getting raped at work by inmate, says Penn. attorney general (http://rt.com/usa/190756-pennsylvania-blames-prison-rape-victim/)... Shoot him!

[oldrider]

Pentagon denies civilian deaths in Syria bombing – so far (http://rt.com/usa/190768-pentagon-civilian-deaths-syria/)... I believe 'em, don't you?

Can't help noticing that the pics in that article and recent pics from Gaza look just the same! ... Just sayin, just sayin! :yes:

[Banditbandit]

Can't help noticing that the pics in that article and recent pics from Gaza look just the same! ... Just sayin, just sayin! :yes:

The difference between bombing Wellington and bombing Chch ..

[oldrider]

The difference between bombing Wellington and bombing Chch ..

:kick: I think I liked it better while you were away! :lol:

[Scuba_Steve]

These guys deal in tame conspiracies (they're Documentary Channel) but here's their pre vid to the stock markets


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EBLvltz5OI

[blue rider]

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/inside-the-koch-brothers-toxic-empire-20140924?page=2

interesting read

[Brian d marge]

I like russels brands latest take on things . . . .fk em just ignore the powers that be

[Ocean1]

I like russels brands latest take on things . . . .fk em just ignore the powers that be

Makes sense, Brand is socialist hypocrisy's latest poster idiot.

Vacuous cunt. I mean, really, yet another "massively wealth redistributing socialist state"? He was obviously elsewhere when his teacher covered the history of previous failures.

And fucking stupid? What does he think his share of his supposed $15M will be after his brave new socialist utopia gets their hands on it?

[Brian d marge]

Makes sense, Brand is socialist hypocrisy's latest poster idiot.

Vacuous cunt. I mean, really, yet another "massively wealth redistributing socialist state"? He was obviously elsewhere when his teacher covered the history of previous failures.

And fucking stupid? What does he think his share of his supposed $15M will be after his brave new socialist utopia gets their hands on it?
And the solution is?

[Ocean1]

And the solution is?

What, you can't ignore him without help?

[Brian d marge]

What, you can't ignore him without help?

dont want to ignore , I think he has the right idea AND we need MORE of people like him ...

I know you are keeping ya head above the water , and are scared about change , but it is coming so just accept it .....

The only help I need will be carrying the TV out the door by Xmas

Stephen

[Ocean1]

dont want to ignore , I think he has the right idea AND we need MORE of people like him ...

I know you are keeping ya head above the water , and are scared about change , but it is coming so just accept it .....

The only help I need will be carrying the TV out the door by Xmas

Stephen

Scared of change driven by fuckwits that don't believe they have to play by everyone else's rules?

Don't think so.

The hypocrisy alone isn't a good look but historically it goes hand in hand with the general "against everything" fuckwits that have been around for centuries, spoilt children spitting the dummy because the world doesn't work the way they want.

[Brian d marge]

Scared of change driven by fuckwits that don't believe they have to play by everyone else's rules?

Don't think so.

The hypocrisy alone isn't a good look but historically it goes hand in hand with the general "against everything" fuckwits that have been around for centuries, spoilt children spitting the dummy because the world doesn't work the way they want.

you might have revisit you history .....and no , the rules of a few evil people are not the ones we should follow ,....sorry bout that

Now , this is what will happen ....

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[jonbuoy]

dont want to ignore , I think he has the right idea AND we need MORE of people like him ...

I know you are keeping ya head above the water , and are scared about change , but it is coming so just accept it .....

The only help I need will be carrying the TV out the door by Xmas

Stephen

Na can´t see it once the economy picks up again and the masses are pacified with some extra hand outs and tax cuts they will all go back to sitting in front of the telly watching Jeremy Kyle and picking their noses. No one whined about the 1%´ers in the good times.

[Brian d marge]

Na can´t see it once the economy picks up again and the masses are pacified with some extra hand outs and tax cuts they will all go back to sitting in front of the telly watching Jeremy Kyle and picking their noses. No one whined about the 1%´ers in the good times.
Yes they did. But only a few . .
But true if people are comfortable within themselves they wont expand their horisions or indeed challenge
The economy wont pick up . .its fundementally flawed

[jonbuoy]

Makes sense, Brand is socialist hypocrisy's latest poster idiot.

Vacuous cunt. I mean, really, yet another "massively wealth redistributing socialist state"? He was obviously elsewhere when his teacher covered the history of previous failures.

And fucking stupid? What does he think his share of his supposed $15M will be after his brave new socialist utopia gets their hands on it?

Yeah its hard to take a multi millionaire socialist seriously. If he made some sort of huge political statement by giving away his cash to the more needy he would have a stronger soap box to stand on.

[jonbuoy]

Yes they did. But only a few . .
But true if people are comfortable within themselves they wont expand their horisions or indeed challenge
The economy wont pick up . .its fundementally flawed

So is the human race but we still keep on truckin. The "economy" will continue until we get unlimited free clean energy - which in turn gives humans unlimited resources.

[Ocean1]

you might have revisit you history .....and no , the rules of a few evil people are not the ones we should follow ,....sorry bout that

Now , this is what will happen ....

When did hypocritical fuckwits ever construct a workable alternative to liberal democracy?

And I'd hardly call an entity with a clean election day majority "a few evil people".

But you go ahead and bitch about it, it'll make a world of difference.

[mashman]

Yeah its hard to take a multi millionaire socialist seriously. If he made some sort of huge political statement by giving away his cash to the more needy he would have a stronger soap box to stand on.

Why? Don't you believe that people can change?... even people who earned money before they changed. Hasn't he set up a foundation that helps people along? I find it amusing that ocean slams brand for having money and yet maintains that no man should tell another how to spend it. It's fuckin priceless, and hugely ironic, that he throws the hypocrisy label around willy nilly. Still, at least Brand is doing something.

[Ocean1]

Why? Don't you believe that people can change?... even people who earned money before they changed. Hasn't he set up a foundation that helps people along? I find it amusing that ocean slams brand for having money and yet maintains that no man should tell another how to spend it. It's fuckin priceless, and hugely ironic, that he throws the hypocrisy label around willy nilly. Still, at least Brand is doing something.

It's a perfectly accurate label for fuckwits that want to share everyone else's money and not their own.

If he gave all of his away he wouldn't be a hypocrite. Just a fuckwit. One with a centuries old, boring, self-centred "message" that only other fuckwits want to hear.

But, as usual, you believe whatever your tiny intellect can muster in order for you to feel that you know better than everyone else.

[mashman]

It's a perfectly accurate label for fuckwits that want to share everyone else's money and not their own.

If he gave all of his away he wouldn't be a hypocrite. Just a fuckwit. One with a centuries old, boring, self-centred "message" that only other fuckwits want to hear.

But, as usual, you believe whatever your tiny intellect can muster in order for you to feel that you know better than everyone else.

Ooooo look, it's the fucktard hour.

No it isn't.

:killingme thing is, he earned his money before he changed i.e. under your rules... which makes you even more of a hypocrite than him. I wish he had the same message as I do... but I guess there's time.

:rofl:@intellect "jibe". You have no idea what I believe coz like oscar, you haven't the first clue about the system that you're deriding coz you don't have the mental faculty to process the ideas that a kid can grasp. Achually I think lumping oscar in with your level of fail is doing him a bit of a disservice. :killingme@me knowing better than everyone else... does your hypocrisy know no bounds?

[Brian d marge]

When did hypocritical fuckwits ever construct a workable alternative to liberal democracy?

And I'd hardly call an entity with a clean election day majority "a few evil people".

But you go ahead and bitch about it, it'll make a world of difference.


Scotland

Case for the defence rests

[mashman]

Interlude


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8

[Brian d marge]

am i too early?????

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Stephen

[mashman]

am i too early?????

Not at all. You can never come too early.






Actually Brand is a cunt. There's just no consistency, I mean is he supporting re-housing projects or firefighters (http://www.fbu.org.uk/news/2014/09/russell-brand-to-headline-the-fbus-ring-of-fire-anti-cuts-event-when-it-comes-to-london-this-friday/) ffs. So fuckin fickle.

[mashman]

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/004222797/Prison-Public-Housing-134346097485_xlarge.jpeg

[yokel]

Sooo the US military know about "climate change" what are they going to do, bomb it?
any group or origination that speaks out against climate change will now be considered a "security threat"
Leonardo is just another lying UN actor, he cant even look straight ahead.

I hope everyone is ready for a healthy dose of population control, not the numbers of people but every move you make, you wont be able to fart without permission

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[puddytat]

What the fuck are you worried about cuz....they aint done nuffink about Climate change yet so I cant see anything being done about it in the future.
Corporates will sue their fucking asses au.

Free trade = free reign.

[Brian d marge]

Part 2 , coming to a town near you ..( actually THAT is my town , born a few meters up the road from there ! hahahaha)

People are on the point ,,IN london , I have always felt that NZ is about about 15 years behind England ...possibly less now , what with the internet ! ,,,,

So If london kicks off , NZ , ,,in a much minor scale will follow ...a handful of people in the larger centres

Either way change is a comin........

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Stephen

[SPman]

Not voting has some point in the UK, where there is NO difference between the 3 major parties except the colour of their ties!

[yokel]

What the fuck are you worried about cuz....they aint done nuffink about Climate change yet so I cant see anything being done about it in the future.
Corporates will sue their fucking asses au.

Free trade = free reign.

the pacific ocean is fucked from the fallout from fukushima, GE and friends plan is to pin it on climate change with the nifty catch phrase of "ocean acidification" and "methane plumes"
have a guess at what is driving this "accelerated climate change"?
when the US military start talking about "facts" fucking watch out

[Berries]

Not voting has some point in the UK, where there is NO difference between the 3 major parties except the colour of their ties!
Like there is a difference in New Zealand.

[SPman]

Like there is a difference in New Zealand.Believe it or not - yes