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mashman
20th January 2015, 15:20
British spy agency tapped journalists' emails (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/26039777/british-spy-agency-tapped-journalists-emails/)

blue rider
20th January 2015, 15:36
ohhhhh ffs

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/01/14/declining-population-could-reduce-global-economic-growth-by-40/

really, where do they find these peeps?

yokel
20th January 2015, 17:19
I <3 free speech!
at the end, apparently this news anchor lost is way and got a little freaked out.
No, he's just speaking is mind!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/sIXVTX9pMKo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

............

husaberg
20th January 2015, 17:50
Paul Bloxham, the HSBC economist who coined the phrase 'rock star economy' for New Zealand's economic growth last year, is forecasting the country will remain one of the strongest performing developed economies in 2015.

ACDC

Ocean1
20th January 2015, 18:47
Paul Bloxham, the HSBC economist who coined the phrase 'rock star economy' for New Zealand's economic growth last year, is forecasting the country will remain one of the strongest performing developed economies in 2015.

ACDC

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/65213809/goldilocks-run-for-nz-economy

husaberg
20th January 2015, 18:55
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/65213809/goldilocks-run-for-nz-economy


The Goldilocks economy- not too hot, not too cold- has seen business confidence steady in the December quarter, with retailers saying things are looking good.

Goldilocks was after all a fairy tale, So yes I will go along with that, I also recall she was a thief.:bleh:

A mathematician, an accountant and an economist apply for the same job.

The interviewer calls in the mathematician and asks "What do two plus two equal?" The mathematician replies "Four." The interviewer asks "Four, exactly?" The mathematician looks at the interviewer incredulously and says "Yes, four, exactly."

Then the interviewer calls in the accountant and asks the same question "What do two plus two equal?" The accountant says "On average, four - give or take ten percent, but on average, four."

Then the interviewer calls in the economist and poses the same question "What do two plus two equal?" The economist gets up, locks the door, closes the shade, sits down next to the interviewer and says, "What do you want it to equal"?

Ocean1
20th January 2015, 19:06
"What do you want it to equal"?

The reason they invented economists was to make weather forecasters look better.

blue rider
20th January 2015, 19:20
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/65213809/goldilocks-run-for-nz-economy




The retail sector rebounded strongly in the December quarter, even though most of the survey responses came in before the typical Christmas spending surge. That lift was likely to reflect the impact of falling petrol prices, which have eased pressure on household budgets at a time when wage rises have been modest.

Retailers reported strong sales and expected that to carry on. A net 36 per cent of merchants saw sales rise in the December quarter, up from a net 11 per cent in the September quarter



and then the holiday is over, and the credit card bill arrives and the feasting is over and everyone goes back to fasting and paying off their bills with the little extra money they got from lower gasoline prices considering that for most wages have been stagnant for a few years.


disclaimer. I have a manufacturing and retail business with a few part timers. christmas was good, january is very slow, but i was lucky christmas was good. lol

husaberg
20th January 2015, 19:47
The reason they invented economists was to make weather forecasters look better.

If all the economists were laid end to end, they'd never reach a conclusion.

Ocean1
20th January 2015, 20:08
and then the holiday is over, and the credit card bill arrives and the feasting is over and everyone goes back to fasting and paying off their bills with the little extra money they got from lower gasoline prices considering that for most wages have been stagnant for a few years.


disclaimer. I have a manufacturing and retail business with a few part timers. christmas was good, january is very slow, but i was lucky christmas was good. lol

Xmas is good for chocolate, yes? Summer generally not though.

I don't really care what retail is doing, it's mostly discretionary spending, which makes it a good indicator of how earnings are trending but let's face it none of us would die if we never set foot in an actual retail shop again.

And then, deflation threatens to improve the spending power of what you earn.

Now spending on capital plant...

Brian d marge
20th January 2015, 20:12
thing about these gasoline prices

121 yen a litre here in japan atm

now

if prices are supply and demand and the earth was round and went on its merry way around the sun

falling prices suggest over supply . . isis flogging it off to new ford explorers

so . . . why wasnt it cheap before . .

after all some say its running out . .

its reached its peak . . .

or have have we been propping up the arab economy

Ocean1
20th January 2015, 20:17
If all the economists were laid end to end, they'd never reach a conclusion.

Funny. There's some very serious mathematics involved in predicting market movements, but in the final analyses you're dealing with human behaviour, and that's rarely amenable to logic systems. You can tell: there's no more millionaire economists than any other profession.

Brian d marge
20th January 2015, 20:18
print money

buy back shares

rinse and repeat

blue rider
20th January 2015, 20:39
Xmas is good for chocolate, yes? Summer generally not though.

I don't really care what retail is doing, it's mostly discretionary spending, which makes it a good indicator of how earnings are trending but let's face it none of us would die if we never set foot in an actual retail shop again.

And then, deflation threatens to improve the spending power of what you earn.

Now spending on capital plant...

retail / wholesale / trade / brokerage etc etc etc are all just words for the same thing exchanging goods for an agreed value in an agreed currency. the currency can be rocks/ gold/ shells or cabbage for that matter.

but you will have to go to some retail space be it in meatspace or virtual space to get your knickers and socks. unless of course you think that a helmet is enough gear. And even that one you should go to a retail space to try it on...lest it be to small for a big head.

as for the economy....it is fuelled by discretionary spending. No matter if one buys a box of sweets, a bike / car / boat or half a dozen of state houses. if one has the aggreed currency available one can discreetly spend.

Ocean1
20th January 2015, 21:11
retail / wholesale / trade / brokerage etc etc etc are all just words for the same thing exchanging goods for an agreed value in an agreed currency. the currency can be rocks/ gold/ shells or cabbage for that matter.

but you will have to go to some retail space be it in meatspace or virtual space to get your knickers and socks. unless of course you think that a helmet is enough gear. And even that one you should go to a retail space to try it on...lest it be to small for a big head.

as for the economy....it is fuelled by discretionary spending. No matter if one buys a box of sweets, a bike / car / boat or half a dozen of state houses. if one has the aggreed currency available one can discreetly spend.

No, discretionary means not absolutely necessary. And for most people other than groceries "retail" means consumer items. Again, not the end of the world if you don't have the currently fashionable phone.

So when they report retail spending is up I figure people are spending money over and above what's required for their basic needs. In the real world that's called luxury.

And when inflation is heading into the negatives you don't really have much reason to expect a wage rise, do you? Nor do you really need it if prices are going down.

blue rider
20th January 2015, 21:26
No, discretionary means not absolutely necessary. And for most people other than groceries "retail" means consumer items. Again, not the end of the world if you don't have the currently fashionable phone.

So when they report retail spending is up I figure people are spending money over and above what's required for their basic needs. In the real world that's called luxury.

And when inflation is heading into the negatives you don't really have much reason to expect a wage rise, do you? Nor do you really need it if prices are going down.



Consumer Items that we need in order to exist

Clothes - parading around naked falls under lewd behaviour - so while a consumer item it is a need first then a want
Housing - sleeping rough, or building dwellings without permit can get one in a big heap of trouble - so while a consumer item it is a need first then a want to own
Food - pretty much the same without it we die and stealing gets us in trouble - so a consumer item that is a need first than a want
Drink - see food
Transport - see above - needed in todays times and I doubt anyone could walk from Papatoetoe to the CBD for work...well they could but would not get there in time
Education - see above - needed in todays times as no one is actually training the young ones anymore...again it is a need first and then a want

that would pretty much make all your discretionary spending on which most of the economy is based. And if you would like to say that all peeps could do without, i would agree...see certain parts of the world where peeps do without these nice things, but honestly would you want this to happen to nZ?

Retail spending is up for a few reasons. A. Peeps spend because it is the season....Xmas, Easter, a birthday, a wedding, or just a needed suit for an employment.
B. Peeps spend because they must, the car is dead, the roof needs to be fixed, the dentist is needed for some fillings.
C. Peeps spend because they feel miserable and want to feel better....so a new pair of shoes or a new bike.
d. peeps spend on rent, food, clothes to be sensible, education to get a better job and health care to keep those teeth.

And as for many the wages are not covering what must be spend on, after rent/mortgage, food and the basics often there is little left over they use the credit card.

Now we could go all Spartan on the peeps that spend and only promote virtuous spending and a whole lot of businesses would go down and under, unemployment would go up and so on and so on and so on.

but you know all that, because you are a smart and studied fellow.


As for prices going down? Nope my friend they are going up. Milk, up three times this year...chocolate..oh well up, nuts? up. Cream n butter? up. Rent? up. Electricity? up. phone? up.

but then you are a smart n studied fellow and you will have an answer to that too.

bogan
20th January 2015, 21:36
As for prices going down? Nope my friend they are going up. Milk, up three times this year...chocolate..oh well up, nuts? up. Cream n butter? up. Rent? up. Electricity? up. phone? up..

Wages, up. Miniumum wage, up. Beneifts, up.

So in short; inflation, continues. There endeth the lesson.

Brian d marge
21st January 2015, 00:50
inflayion good

makes govnmt debt worth less

strange how they say deflation is bad , i cant see why
me beer gets cheaper and thats a good thing . . i reckons

bogan
21st January 2015, 07:05
inflayion good

makes govnmt debt worth less

strange how they say deflation is bad , i cant see why
me beer gets cheaper and thats a good thing . . i reckons

Discourages spending, slows the economy; oh, and the rich would just get richer.

blue rider
21st January 2015, 07:15
Wages, up. Miniumum wage, up. Beneifts, up.

So in short; inflation, continues. There endeth the lesson.



currently it is prices up, minimum wage not going anywhere benefits being cut across the bord.

but somewhere in this country someone is experiencing the rockstar economy while screwing over goldilocks.

bogan
21st January 2015, 07:20
but somewhere in this country someone is experiencing the rockstar economy while screwing over goldilocks.

People who work for a living? I've had plenty of pay increases of late anyway...

Scuba_Steve
21st January 2015, 07:27
Wages, up. Miniumum wage, up. Beneifts, up.

So in short; inflation, continues. There endeth the lesson.

My wage aint gone up this year, it hardly went up last year & definitely no-where near enough to cover the increases in power, feed, mortgage, insurance etc
Minimum wage? Don't know not on it but I'm pretty sure that hasn't changed
Benefits? again don't know not on one, but I don't think that's changed either

In short 'inflation' just seems to be a fancy word for "increasing prices faster than your pay"

blue rider
21st January 2015, 08:05
My wage aint gone up this year, it hardly went up last year & definitely no-where near enough to cover the increases in power, feed, mortgage, insurance etc
Minimum wage? Don't know not on it but I'm pretty sure that hasn't changed
Benefits? again don't know not on one, but I don't think that's changed either

In short 'inflation' just seems to be a fancy word for "increasing prices faster than your pay"



but but

are you trying hard enough?

cause surely if you are trying hard enough (TM) you too will experience the rockstar economy with free for use goldilocks thrown in. ....only moochers and un or under- educated lazy peeps are struggling...the others ....payrises everywhere.

:girlfight:

oldrider
21st January 2015, 08:51
Simply trying harder is a fallacy - watch the blowfly on the window pane - no matter how hard it tries it isn't going anywhere! :no: he will eventually die there! :brick:

Try smarter - knowledge is key - if is not working for you change direction try something else - :sunny: TRY ANYTHING! :shifty:

Keeping on doing the same thing expecting a different result is like a death sentence! - check out any windowsill for all the evidence you need! :yes:

Ocean1
21st January 2015, 09:32
Consumer Items that we need in order to exist

Clothes - parading around naked falls under lewd behaviour - so while a consumer item it is a need first then a want
Housing - sleeping rough, or building dwellings without permit can get one in a big heap of trouble - so while a consumer item it is a need first then a want to own
Food - pretty much the same without it we die and stealing gets us in trouble - so a consumer item that is a need first than a want
Drink - see food
Transport - see above - needed in todays times and I doubt anyone could walk from Papatoetoe to the CBD for work...well they could but would not get there in time
Education - see above - needed in todays times as no one is actually training the young ones anymore...again it is a need first and then a want


Housing, transport and education aren't retail spending. And I'm not sure food is either.

And none of the above represents discretionary spending, so what's your point?


Retail spending is up for a few reasons. A. Peeps spend because it is the season....Xmas, Easter, a birthday, a wedding, or just a needed suit for an employment.
B. Peeps spend because they must, the car is dead, the roof needs to be fixed, the dentist is needed for some fillings.
C. Peeps spend because they feel miserable and want to feel better....so a new pair of shoes or a new bike.
d. peeps spend on rent, food, clothes to be sensible, education to get a better job and health care to keep those teeth.

If "peeps" are spending for any other reason than they have the money to do so then they deserve all of the "bad luck" that comes their way.

I'm pretty sure you'll find that "peeps" spend money on retail (read: from discretionary income) because they have the money to do so.


And as for many the wages are not covering what must be spend on, after rent/mortgage, food and the basics often there is little left over they use the credit card.

Which is exactly the short term solution that likely resulted in them failing to earn what they want in the first place. Idiots.


Now we could go all Spartan on the peeps that spend and only promote virtuous spending and a whole lot of businesses would go down and under, unemployment would go up and so on and so on and so on.

And the businesses that go under would be exactly those that make their living from people who don't earn what they spend. In other words borrowed money.

Excellent. Next problem?


As for prices going down? Nope my friend they are going up. Milk, up three times this year...chocolate..oh well up, nuts? up. Cream n butter? up. Rent? up. Electricity? up. phone? up.

Nice bunch of cherries you got there.

In fact inflation is now lower than it's been for almost a generation, decades. We're expected to have DEflation next month. And while the individual doesn't have much control over that it does mean that whatever income he does have buys him more. So you're wrong, on average "peeps" have more buying power, not less.

What the individual does have some control over is how productive they are. And I promise you that of all the different traits that influence how much income "peeps" make that's the single most effective way to do so.

Bitching about how someone else isn't making it for you isn't on the list.


It's not in the same book.


It's not even in the same language.

Ocean1
21st January 2015, 09:37
currently it is prices up, minimum wage not going anywhere benefits being cut across the bord.

but somewhere in this country someone is experiencing the rockstar economy while screwing over goldilocks.

Bullshit. There's always been a hard core bunch of doomsayers hell bent on the theory that someone else is responsible for their income, (usually the lack of it). They seem to make more noise, if at all possible when times are good.

The facts are that across the board the standard of living here and in most places has never been better.

Get a grip, chicken little.

Scuba_Steve
21st January 2015, 11:42
but but

are you trying hard enough?

cause surely if you are trying hard enough (TM) you too will experience the rockstar economy with free for use goldilocks thrown in. ....only moochers and un or under- educated lazy peeps are struggling...the others ....payrises everywhere.

:girlfight:

I think that's the problem... I am trying & I'm good at what I do; Seems everyone experiencing the "rockstardom" are the useless cunts making sure their words are louder than action as they're pretty good at the former, fucking useless at the latter.
Needless to say I'm not good with my words :no: ... Well not in the "right way" anyways :shutup:

mashman
21st January 2015, 12:26
Live by the report, watch everyone else die by the report :tugger:

Ocean1
21st January 2015, 14:13
Live by the report, watch everyone else die by the report :tugger:

Not yet. Darwin's on leave.

Normal service will be resumed when he returns.

Which is scheduled right after some connection between value and reward has been re-established.

blue rider
21st January 2015, 15:01
verily i say unto you....its the poor man's fault.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-20/sec-to-suspend-s-p-from-rating-part-of-cmbs-market-for-year.html

mashman
21st January 2015, 15:07
Not yet. Darwin's on leave.

Normal service will be resumed when he returns.

Which is scheduled right after some connection between value and reward has been re-established.

Normal service. Bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa :niceone:

Brian d marge
21st January 2015, 15:32
Told you didnt I


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-14/retail-sales-in-u-s-slumped-in-broad-based-december-retreat.html


Oh gold ...hahahahahahaaaa oh how I lolled

Women and Children first .........


Stephen

Brian d marge
21st January 2015, 21:31
The Blind
Consider them, my soul, they are a fright!
Like mannequins, vaguely ridiculous,
Peculiar, terrible somnambulists,
Beaming - who can say where - their eyes of night.
These orbs, in which a spark is never seen,
As if in looking far and wide stay raised
On high; they never seem to cast their gaze
Down to the street, head hung, as in a dream.
Thus they traverse the blackness of their days,
Kin to the silence of eternity.
o city! while you laugh and roar and play,
Mad with your lusts to point of cruelty,
Look at me! dragging, dazed more than their kind.
What in the Skies can these men hope to find?


Stephen

mashman
21st January 2015, 21:39
The Blind
Consider them, my soul, they are a fright!
Like mannequins, vaguely ridiculous,
Peculiar, terrible somnambulists,
Beaming - who can say where - their eyes of night.
These orbs, in which a spark is never seen,
As if in looking far and wide stay raised
On high; they never seem to cast their gaze
Down to the street, head hung, as in a dream.
Thus they traverse the blackness of their days,
Kin to the silence of eternity.
o city! while you laugh and roar and play,
Mad with your lusts to point of cruelty,
Look at me! dragging, dazed more than their kind.
What in the Skies can these men hope to find?


Stephen

Superman...

Brian d marge
21st January 2015, 21:46
Superman...

Great , super


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papist rapists .......

Stephen

mashman
22nd January 2015, 11:27
BP asks for lower fine in penalty phase of Gulf spill trial (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/bp-asks-lower-fine-penalty-phase-gulf-spill-023753436--finance.html) :killingme

oldrider
22nd January 2015, 12:43
BP asks for lower fine in penalty phase of Gulf spill trial (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/bp-asks-lower-fine-penalty-phase-gulf-spill-023753436--finance.html) :killingme

Incredible gall - should be the right of all environmental criminals to be allowed to set their own punishment or penalties FFS! :facepalm:

bogan
22nd January 2015, 12:48
Incredible gall



http://www.france.fr/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_cover_large/asterix-obelixc2013-les-editions-albert-rene-goscinny-uderzo.jpg

You rang? :shifty:

oldrider
22nd January 2015, 14:12
You rang? :shifty: Well done that man :lol:

blue rider
22nd January 2015, 17:26
ahhh fuck it

http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/jan/19/davos-climate-action-democracy-failure-jorgen-randers?CMP=share_btn_tw

mashman
22nd January 2015, 19:34
Kenya police tear-gas primary school children in playground protest (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/kenya/11355297/Kenya-police-tear-gas-primary-school-children-in-playground-protest.html)

Scuba_Steve
22nd January 2015, 22:00
Piracy... It has it's own stock exchange system

That's right you too can invest in the Somalian pirates, quick returns too; One women made over 75,000$ USD after her low low investment of just an RPG6... Seems a more sound investment scheme than Wall Street if you ask me

mashman
23rd January 2015, 09:54
Video: Police Shoot Unarmed Black Man (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/video-unarmed-black-man-shot-dead-police-073841289.html?vp=1#gx3qo3g)... when they say shoot, they actually mean murder.

Akzle
23rd January 2015, 11:20
Video: Police Shoot Unarmed Black Man (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/video-unarmed-black-man-shot-dead-police-073841289.html?vp=1#gx3qo3g)... when they say shoot, they actually mean murder.

the funniest (or least funny, depending on your humor) was a darkie shot "in self defense"....
with two and a half clips in him. that is, the officer shot until he ran out of bullets, reloaded, repeated, and reloaded again...

niggers sure is scary if it takes 30 HP slugs to put them down... :facepalm:

Banditbandit
23rd January 2015, 11:34
niggers sure is scary if it takes 30 HP slugs to put them down... :facepalm:

Yeah .. us darkies have been scaring the hell out of white people since they first found us ...

We rape their women ... eat their men (or is it rape the men and eat the women) ... give drugs to their children, immigrate to their countries ... take their benefit payments, ..

The glorious British Empire on which the sun never shits was always meant to control us .. that was why the US was so stupid to secede and have a war of independence ..

blue rider
23rd January 2015, 11:36
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/22/kim-dotcom-launches-encrypted-voice-chat-skype-killer

news they don't do in Nuzillind

Brian d marge
23rd January 2015, 15:51
i thought it was the muslims that were the bad ones

oldrider
23rd January 2015, 16:18
i thought it was the muslims that were the bad ones

That is what the same people who brought us 9/11 want you to believe but the same god that they claim gave them Israel gave us all "free will" - so use it wisely! :blip:

blue rider
23rd January 2015, 17:10
bwahahahaha
fired CEO receives severance package amounting to same amount as the combined severance package for the 17.600 workers that lost their jobs due to his incompetence.

Ocean1 wetdream come true......work hard...rewards...or something.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/target-s-package-for-ex-ceo-matches-package-for-all-17-600-canadian-workers-1.2927893

Ocean1
23rd January 2015, 18:44
Ocean1 wetdream come true......work hard...rewards...or something.


Nope, it's a genuine certified fact. You may not get everything you earn, but if you produce fuck all then that's more or less what you're worth.

The fact that you've found someone supposedly paid more than he's worth changes that not a jot.

But I understand your need to believe something different, it means being responsible for yourself.

blue rider
23rd January 2015, 18:58
global warming or just shit out of luck or something like that.
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11390803

blue rider
23rd January 2015, 18:59
Nope, it's a genuine certified fact. You may not get everything you earn, but if you produce fuck all then that's more or less what you're worth.

The fact that you've found someone supposedly paid more than he's worth changes that not a jot.

But I understand your need to believe something different, it means being responsible for yourself.



oh my gosh you are pathetic.

essentially just that pathetic.

vile, inside and out.

bogan
23rd January 2015, 19:00
oh my gosh you are pathetic.

essentially just that pathetic.

vile, inside and out.

right in as much as the context supplied though

Ocean1
23rd January 2015, 19:07
oh my gosh you are pathetic.

essentially just that pathetic.

vile, inside and out.

And you're ugly.

But tomorrow I'm cutting wood for some girlscouts.

And you'll still be ugly.

yokel
23rd January 2015, 19:45
global warming or just shit out of luck or something like that.
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11390803

well no point going to Mars, their ice caps a melting too!

apparently it is a "controversial theory" that global warming is natural and is from changes in solar radiation from the sun.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

blue rider
23rd January 2015, 21:02
the king is dead...long live another king


http://www.vineyardsaker.co.nz/2015/01/19/what-game-is-the-house-of-saud-playing-by-pepe-escobar/

mashman
23rd January 2015, 22:34
well no point going to Mars, their ice caps a melting too!

apparently it is a "controversial theory" that global warming is natural and is from changes in solar radiation from the sun.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Lots of things have been happening for a while (http://www.enterprisemission.com/_articles/05-14-2004/Interplanetary_1.htm)... just a shame that instead of preparing we see it as a reason to get rich... which leads to us advancing sideways (sometimes backwards) instead of forwards.

Brian d marge
24th January 2015, 02:03
Go Geraldo...

not if but when.........

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Stephen

carbonhed
24th January 2015, 19:08
Ecotards get fined $2.5 million for killing 38 golden eagles and 336 other protected birds.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/utility-company-sentenced-wyoming-killing-protected-birds-wind-projects-0

Meanwhile in the UK... gamekeeper goes to jail for killing a goshawk.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11341014/Gamekeeper-jailed-for-first-time-in-Scotland-for-killing-rare-bird-of-prey.html

In a spirit of proportionality surely every ecotard on the planet should be lined up against a wall and shot for the wholesale slaughter of rare and endangered avian species by their ridiculous windmilly blenders?

Brian d marge
24th January 2015, 20:13
Ecotards get fined $2.5 million for killing 38 golden eagles and 336 other protected birds.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/utility-company-sentenced-wyoming-killing-protected-birds-wind-projects-0

Meanwhile in the UK... gamekeeper goes to jail for killing a goshawk.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11341014/Gamekeeper-jailed-for-first-time-in-Scotland-for-killing-rare-bird-of-prey.html

In a spirit of proportionality surely every ecotard on the planet should be lined up against a wall and shot for the wholesale slaughter of rare and endangered avian species by their ridiculous windmilly blenders?
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/05/software-bot-darknet-shopping-spree-random-shopper

who do we shoot here

oldrider
24th January 2015, 21:00
Goy (non Jew) guide to world history by Michael E Jones : Part one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNWPYQjXSYA

Published on 22 Dec 2014

E. Michael Jones, author of The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and Its Impact on World History, begins the series.

Goy guide to world history part two:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgf1B_2MgNg&x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534

Published on 14 Jan 2015

In Part 2 of the Goy Guide to World History, E. Michael Jones compresses hundreds of pages of his book, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and Its Impact on World History, into a few words and phrases: the necessity of understanding 'usury' and what its elimination would mean; the cultural propensity for the Talmud-Tanach propagandized Jew to mistrust and exploit the Goyim; the subsequent destruction of the Church and the public commons (focusing here on England); the toleration and then triumph of usury; the guilt and cover-up culture of the new 'owners' of the Commons; the 'triumph' of state socialism (lottery & football mayhem); the inability of the Goy to recognize the Jew (goy blindness) and its affects; the corrosive effects of the loss of trust in our economic and political system. (Parts 1&2 of 6)

yokel
25th January 2015, 09:42
"the road to hell is paved with good intentions"

http://youtu.be/LHFuQvXn8MU

Brian d marge
26th January 2015, 02:35
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2874816/us-to-impose-big-tariffs-on-china-and-taiwan-for-dumping-solar-panels-on-market.html#tk.rss_news&foo=U.S.%20to%20impose%20big%20tariffs%20on%20Chin a%20and%20Taiwan%20for%20dumping%20solar%20panels% 20on%20market%2001-25-2015&des=The%20U.S.%20International%20Trade%20Commissio n%20%28ITC%29%20has%20voted%20to%20uphold%20earlie r%20findings%20that%20Chinese%20and%20Taiwanese%20 photovoltaic%20manufacturers%20have%20been%20satur ating%20their%20market%20with%20low-cost%20photovoltaic%20%28PV%29%20panels.The%20ruli ng%20follows%20a%20similar%20one%20last%20mont

What a surprise ......those rare birds will be safe now !

Stephen

Akzle
26th January 2015, 06:10
http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/25/5431382/the-internet-is-fucked
this quote sums up jewciety.

"Anyone who says
otherwise is lying for money."

mashman
26th January 2015, 11:01
Greece’s anti-austerity Syriza party officially wins parliamentary elections (http://rt.com/news/226119-greece-election-results-syriza/)... wonder if the leader has real balls?

SPman
26th January 2015, 14:32
Well - if he does, he'll ditch the Euro.... http://www.gregpalast.com/trojan-hearse-greek-elections-and-the-euro-leper-colony/

mashman
26th January 2015, 17:33
Well - if he does, he'll ditch the Euro.... http://www.gregpalast.com/trojan-hearse-greek-elections-and-the-euro-leper-colony/

Soft landings, well, for a few: Report: Insider Documents Detail a March 23 Greek Default Plan; Gov to Freeze Bank Accounts, Eliminate Euro, Restrict Capital Flow (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/breaking-report-insider-documents-detail-a-march-23-greek-default-plan-gov-to-freeze-bank-accounts-eliminate-euro-restrict-capital-flow_02162012)

Brian d marge
26th January 2015, 18:18
Soft landings, well, for a few: Report: Insider Documents Detail a March 23 Greek Default Plan; Gov to Freeze Bank Accounts, Eliminate Euro, Restrict Capital Flow (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/breaking-report-insider-documents-detail-a-march-23-greek-default-plan-gov-to-freeze-bank-accounts-eliminate-euro-restrict-capital-flow_02162012)
bail ins . . .or no pun intended . .bail outs

followed by spain .. italy . . and germany

does anyone know of any caves near goldbearing steams on west coast

need to keep head down for a time

hahhaa

carbonhed
26th January 2015, 18:56
does anyone know of any caves near goldbearing steams on west coast

need to keep head down for a time

hahhaa

What has NZ ever done to deserve being constantly threatened with your return Brain of Marge?

Akzle
26th January 2015, 19:21
bail ins . . .or no pun intended . .bail outs

followed by spain .. italy . . and germany

does anyone know of any caves near goldbearing steams on west coast

need to keep head down for a time

hahhaa

you can crash at my whare.

I can hear em coming a mile in any direction. Drop 2 bridges and it becomes no mans land.
Bring ammo.

Brian d marge
26th January 2015, 19:52
What has NZ ever done to deserve being constantly threatened with your return Brain of Marge?
well if left to u the place would be uninhabitable

thing of me as the white knight . . .your saviour

by the way marge was the brains of the outfit . . . thank you

Brian d marge
26th January 2015, 20:00
you can crash at my whare.

I can hear em coming a mile in any direction. Drop 2 bridges and it becomes no mans land.
Bring ammo.
just bought the xpectre 45 pound bow and some new arrows . hours of fun . . .with the next doors kids

Akzle
26th January 2015, 20:10
just bought the xpectre 45 pound bow and some new arrows . hours of fun . . .with the next doors kids

fuken almost go 125 grain heads with that... Almost.

.22 cal glass arrows. Do it faggot.

Brian d marge
26th January 2015, 21:08
fuken almost go 125 grain heads with that... Almost.

.22 cal glass arrows. Do it faggot.

I love Faggots I do ....iN FACT iLL DO ALL 4

308369

Stephen

carbonhed
26th January 2015, 21:21
thing of me as the white knight . . .your saviour



I think of you as a whining pommy faggot with a bow and arrow.

Brian d marge
26th January 2015, 21:28
I think of you as a whining pommy faggot with a bow and arrow.
still your saviour unbeknowest to you

still you fellas will be useful when the balloon goes up

blue rider
26th January 2015, 21:41
:bleh:

http://www.tickld.com/x/economicsexplained

mashman
26th January 2015, 21:59
bail ins . . .or no pun intended . .bail outs

followed by spain .. italy . . and germany

does anyone know of any caves near goldbearing steams on west coast

need to keep head down for a time

hahhaa

You could hollow out the underneath of Akzle's caravan (ignore the hookers). Not sure if the streams have gold mind.

Akzle
27th January 2015, 05:12
i let a golden stream go every morning

oldrider
27th January 2015, 08:34
i let a golden stream go every morning

Sharp :lol: Eeeewww! :sick: but still funny though!

Brian d marge
27th January 2015, 10:52
i let a golden stream go every morning
theres me thinking a shower

mashman
29th January 2015, 08:19
"The Nonce Finder General strikes again: Within days of his death, MP Tom Watson accused Leon Brittan of child rape without hard evidence, so RICHARD LITTLEJOHN wants to know why the LEFT don't think libel rules apply to them" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2927655/The-Nonce-Finder-General-strikes-days-death-MP-Tom-Watson-accused-Leon-Brittan-child-rape-without-hard-evidence-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-wants-know-LEFT-don-t-think-libel-rules-apply-them.html)... and what do you know, yet another MP serving that served under Thatcher. Lucky he died before he had to answer any questions eh, how fortuitous indeed.

carbonhed
29th January 2015, 08:47
"The Nonce Finder General strikes again: Within days of his death, MP Tom Watson accused Leon Brittan of child rape without hard evidence, so RICHARD LITTLEJOHN wants to know why the LEFT don't think libel rules apply to them" (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2927655/The-Nonce-Finder-General-strikes-days-death-MP-Tom-Watson-accused-Leon-Brittan-child-rape-without-hard-evidence-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-wants-know-LEFT-don-t-think-libel-rules-apply-them.html)... and what do you know, yet another MP serving that served under Thatcher. Lucky he died before he had to answer any questions eh, how fortuitous indeed.

Did you read the article?

mashman
29th January 2015, 08:58
Did you read the article?

Yup... but it looks as though I have missed something that you have picked up on. Do tell.

Brian d marge
31st January 2015, 00:46
Pretty much as one suspects .........

http://<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ILfmmawu4mQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> (http://<iframe width=&quot;560&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/ILfmmawu4mQ&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; allowfullscreen></iframe>)


Stephen

Brian d marge
31st January 2015, 03:10
I see eugenics is making a comeback

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29760212

stephen

yokel
31st January 2015, 06:52
The Zionist Jews go Greek on Greece

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MemkM_kEGpQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

mashman
31st January 2015, 07:35
'It’s business': Poland ready to sell weapons to Ukraine if Kiev has money (http://rt.com/news/227887-poland-sell-weapons-ukraine/)

oldrider
31st January 2015, 09:04
'It’s business': Poland ready to sell weapons to Ukraine if Kiev has money (http://rt.com/news/227887-poland-sell-weapons-ukraine/)
And Poland wonders why historically it always ends up an oppressed occupied country! :doh:

Brian d marge
1st February 2015, 16:01
The Zionist Jews go Greek on Greece



Wonder if they will default by March.. the fella in the video was right ..it will take some mighty big ball to do so........

I had a feeling based on what I have read that they would bail by end of March ............but the signs so far dont look so healthy

Interesting times

If they dont bail , the people of Greece are going to be pissed off .........

Stephen

yokel
1st February 2015, 16:55
Wonder if they will default by March.. the fella in the video was right ..it will take some mighty big ball to do so........

I had a feeling based on what I have read that they would bail by end of March ............but the signs so far dont look so healthy

Interesting times

If they dont bail , the people of Greece are going to be pissed off .........

Stephen

The party is just about over, time for some civil unrest is just around the corner.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1073116829381914&fref=nf

mashman
2nd February 2015, 17:14
Pilot held by Islamic State puts Jordan's king in a tough spot (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/26170764/pilot-held-by-islamic-state-puts-jordans-king-in-a-tough-spot/)

blue rider
3rd February 2015, 08:48
https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/mlo_one_week.png

mashman
3rd February 2015, 10:59
Croatia writes off debts for poorest citizens (https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/croatia-writes-off-debts-poorest-111606454.html)

Edbear
3rd February 2015, 11:10
Imagine if the whole world did that?

mashman
3rd February 2015, 11:27
Imagine if the whole world did that?

It has already done that several times over and it's still a fail. Who woulda thunk it eh.

Banditbandit
3rd February 2015, 11:32
Imagine if the whole world did that?

'T'would seem to be the Christian thing to do would it not ???

Akzle
3rd February 2015, 12:37
'T'would seem to be the Christian thing to do would it not ???

no i believe the christ-ian thing to do involved flipping tables, putting foot to arse and horse whipping jew cunts.
:rockon:

Banditbandit
3rd February 2015, 12:40
no i believe the christ-ian thing to do involved flipping tables, putting foot to arse and horse whipping jew cunts.
:rockon:

Wasn't that a Jew who threw tables around and swung his whip in the temple???

mashman
3rd February 2015, 13:16
English: Reserve Bank in a difficult situation (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/english-bank-difficult-situation-201032934.html)... should ditch the financial system son, coz that'll remove the "difficult situation".

Akzle
3rd February 2015, 14:02
Wasn't that a Jew who threw tables around and swung his whip in the temple???

jesus the communist jew...

Brian d marge
3rd February 2015, 14:05
jesus the communist jew...
he was a carpenter . . probably self employed

mashman
3rd February 2015, 16:59
"The affair reads like fiction. You have politicians (and a couple of famous pop stars, allegedly) raping and murdering children, then using channels of power to cover up their crimes. It sounds like an absurd conspiracy theory. Except it’s not – every detail written here is merely what has been reported so far. If you needed a reason to fear your own government – beyond the corruption we’re still dealing with every day – it’s here, in the Westminster abuse scandal. Because if we didn’t know this was happening then, then what don’t we realise is happening right now? Come back in 30 years’ time, when all will be revealed." (https://shamocracy.org/2015/02/02/westminster-sex-abuse-scandal-talking-arent)

An incorruptible politician is a useless politician.

Brian d marge
3rd February 2015, 17:20
"The affair reads like fiction. You have politicians (and a couple of famous pop stars, allegedly) raping and murdering children, then using channels of power to cover up their crimes. It sounds like an absurd conspiracy theory. Except it’s not – every detail written here is merely what has been reported so far. If you needed a reason to fear your own government – beyond the corruption we’re still dealing with every day – it’s here, in the Westminster abuse scandal. Because if we didn’t know this was happening then, then what don’t we realise is happening right now? Come back in 30 years’ time, when all will be revealed." (https://shamocracy.org/2015/02/02/westminster-sex-abuse-scandal-talking-arent)

An incorruptible politician is a useless politician.
david ike has been on about that for years

hmmmm that nut job label is looking tenuous . . .

hahahahhahahahahaaaaa

Akzle
3rd February 2015, 17:41
when a government fears the people, there is liberty.
when a people fears the government, there is tyranny.

oldrider
3rd February 2015, 19:03
Pretty potent stuff in that article if there is not enough evidence there to get a prosecution going then I guess there will be slander charges! - Yeah right!

How do these bloody pedophiles always manage to escape justice - and "WHY" are there so bloody many of them FFS! :scratch:

mashman
3rd February 2015, 19:11
Pretty potent stuff in that article if there is not enough evidence there to get a prosecution going then I guess there will be slander charges! - Yeah right!

How do these bloody pedophiles always manage to escape justice - and "WHY" are there so bloody many of them FFS! :scratch:

They never employ anyone that they do not have a hold over. "Jobs for the boys", takes on a new meaning.

Brian d marge
3rd February 2015, 19:40
British Home Office behind cover up of elite homopaedo network in the UK...: http://youtu.be/WtImlYJtCzk

i noticed was raised in an empty chamber . .

fkrs the lot of em

wheres me knitting

mashman
3rd February 2015, 20:03
British Home Office behind cover up of elite homopaedo network in the UK...: http://youtu.be/WtImlYJtCzk

i noticed was raised in an empty chamber . .

fkrs the lot of em

wheres me knitting

Fuck the law. The cops should rip every single one of those files open and arrest any name that is in there instantly. Just need a judge with balls.

Scuba_Steve
3rd February 2015, 20:04
Rap for thought


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xe6nLVXEC0

oldrider
3rd February 2015, 22:19
Rap for thought


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xe6nLVXEC
So so true!

My life story - condemned and caned for asking why - why - why - why - from people who simply didn't know the answers! :spanking:

I lived - they died - I made it they existed - I forgive them! :love: They did their best - I know better now! :niceone: unfortunately they will never know the difference! :oi-grr:

mashman
4th February 2015, 07:03
S&P to pay $1.4 billion settlement to end probe stemming from '08 recession (http://rt.com/usa/228963-standard-poors-doj-settlement/)

oldrider
4th February 2015, 07:25
S&P to pay $1.4 billion settlement to end probe stemming from '08 recession (http://rt.com/usa/228963-standard-poors-doj-settlement/)

I smiled (at the end quip) about S&P being able to down grade Russian economy while they can't even manage themselves - who were they doing that for anyway?

Can't trust USA for anything anymore! :facepalm:

Akzle
4th February 2015, 08:03
Can't trust USA for anything anymore! :facepalm:

i have to call you out on this John!!








- When could you ever

oldrider
4th February 2015, 09:18
i have to call you out on this John!!








- When could you ever

Yeah - Well I grew up thinking it was the Americans that saved us from the Japs and "that" was fucking scary and closer than many today realise! :2guns:

Bitter disappointment when you find out that you are not actually on the same side as the good guys - never really were! :oi-grr: Hollywood? - lying bastards :facepalm:

Edbear
4th February 2015, 10:00
Yeah - Well I grew up thinking it was the Americans that saved us from the Japs and "that" was fucking scary and closer than many today realise! :2guns:

Bitter disappointment when you find out that you are not actually on the same side as the good guys - never really were! :oi-grr: Hollywood? - lying bastards :facepalm:

They offered to build the Auckland Harbour Bridge after the war and we turned them down.

mashman
4th February 2015, 10:23
They offered to build the Auckland Harbour Bridge after the war and we turned them down.

Dodged a bullet there then? (http://www.artba.org/economics/us-deficient-bridges/)

mashman
4th February 2015, 10:24
I smiled (at the end quip) about S&P being able to down grade Russian economy while they can't even manage themselves - who were they doing that for anyway?

Can't trust USA for anything anymore! :facepalm:

Coming to a country near you, soon lol.

Edbear
4th February 2015, 10:26
Dodged a bullet there then? (http://www.artba.org/economics/us-deficient-bridges/)

You might have a point there...

Akzle
4th February 2015, 10:57
You might have a point there...

holy fuck, with point-detection skills like that, how are you still so fucking stupid?

mashman
5th February 2015, 13:51
Judge approves forced sterilisation (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/judge-approves-forced-sterilisation-115048866.html#mWcQh9s)... it begins.

Brian d marge
5th February 2015, 13:58
Yeah - Well I grew up thinking it was the Americans that saved us from the Japs and "that" was fucking scary and closer than many today realise! :2guns:

Bitter disappointment when you find out that you are not actually on the same side as the good guys - never really were! :oi-grr: Hollywood? - lying bastards :facepalm:
Oh it can get a lot better ....


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/PaFklTLNy8c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Stephen

remember these Alexi ? the youngest of the family was shot twice as he was still alive ...he was around 8 years old ,,,fkin evil fkers

Akzle
5th February 2015, 14:18
Judge approves forced sterilisation (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/judge-approves-forced-sterilisation-115048866.html#mWcQh9s)... it begins.

fucken scary alright.

of course, w' don't know the full facts of the matter.

but still. i'd lend her me pig gun. (and donate a gallon of diesel, 80lbs of fertiliser... just incase they do get in)

Brian d marge
5th February 2015, 14:43
fucken scary alright.

of course, w' don't know the full facts of the matter.

but still. i'd lend her me pig gun. (and donate a gallon of diesel, 80lbs of fertiliser... just incase they do get in)
i support it . . . .have you seen some of the bushpigs that have been allowed to reproduce

shudder

mashman
5th February 2015, 15:43
fucken scary alright.

of course, w' don't know the full facts of the matter.

but still. i'd lend her me pig gun. (and donate a gallon of diesel, 80lbs of fertiliser... just incase they do get in)

True, could be loads of factors that lead to a supposedly mentally ill woman becoming pregnant. I know of at least 1 person, not mentally ill (certainly portrayed that way coz she defied the advice), who was told exactly how dangerous becoming pregnant again was, but she went on to have another 2 without any complimications. Context eh.

I guess it's always in the post, just a case of justifying it to the public eh.

mashman
5th February 2015, 16:38
I love Max Keiser. Shame he's a capitalist pig. And love the way Randy Quaid nails the point home.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZytS6kFGsI

Brian d marge
5th February 2015, 18:34
I love Max Keiser. Shame he's a capitalist pig. And love the way Randy Quaid nails the point home.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZytS6kFGsI
notice at the end . . man saves tablet computer . , women gets the slap in . . .hahahahaa

Brian d marge
8th February 2015, 03:07
btw

not just Chinese, Hows those zero interest , abandon american folks looking for a bolt hole

And all of that aside

who the fk can afford 1 million dollars ........

let me remind you , a burnt pile of rubble aint worth Jack ..........

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/65894003/wealthy-chinese-buyers-snap-up-property


Stephen

mashman
9th February 2015, 08:11
Outrage Over Barrister's 'Appalling' Rape Post (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/outrage-over-barristers-rape-comments-104000050.html)... and he's a father. What a fuckin muppet.

unstuck
9th February 2015, 08:19
He later added: "I tell you what would drop the rape statistics would be if girls covered up, dressed appropriately and stopped drinking themselves legless."


WTF.....No what would drop the rape statistics is men behaving like men, and not animals.
Kinda reminds me of those muslims that think a man cannot control his natural urges, so women should cover themselves up completely. :tugger:

Akzle
9th February 2015, 12:46
He later added: "I tell you what would drop the rape statistics would be if girls covered up, dressed appropriately and stopped drinking themselves legless."

welllllll... ther's rape ("tee hee, i was mildly tipsy, slipped, fell and landed with his penis in my mouth, then he raped me") and then there's rape (like, actual non consensual secks), and then there's asking for it.
http://media2.policymic.com/85ea8cdbad21a55ce271a9258a21ee5f.jpg

unstuck
9th February 2015, 13:01
welllllll... ther's rape ("tee hee, i was mildly tipsy, slipped, fell and landed with his penis in my mouth, then he raped me") and then there's rape (like, actual non consensual secks), and then there's asking for it.


Your full of shit, I know you don't mean that.:shifty:

Akzle
9th February 2015, 14:32
Your full of shit, I know you don't mean that.:shifty:

You're* :bleh:

yokel
9th February 2015, 15:55
Outrage Over Barrister's 'Appalling' Rape Post (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/outrage-over-barristers-rape-comments-104000050.html)... and he's a father. What a fuckin muppet.

so if I drive a car under the influence of alcohol and crash in to a big hard pole, it's the pole's fault right?

there's rape then there's sexual misadventure.

Brian d marge
9th February 2015, 15:56
i like miss adventure . wasnt she runner up to miss carolina

mashman
9th February 2015, 19:51
so if I drive a car under the influence of alcohol and crash in to a big hard pole, it's the pole's fault right?

there's rape then there's sexual misadventure.

I can actually accept the possibility that a pole would seek you out, just to beat some sense into you.

If you're told to stop, stop. If you don't, then it's rape.

Akzle
9th February 2015, 20:02
I can actually accept the possibility that a pole would seek you out, just to beat some sense into you.

If you're told to stop, stop. If you don't, then it's rape.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOVq81k4Y_U

Brian d marge
9th February 2015, 21:19
If you're told to stop, stop. If you don't, then it's rape.

My wife has been telling me to stop drinking for years now

I feel so abused .....


Stephen

oldrider
9th February 2015, 21:33
My wife has been telling me to stop drinking for years now

I feel so abused .....


Stephen

Well - the word is banana - drinking makes them droopy - male failing (according to women) is not LISTENING! :doh:

yokel
9th February 2015, 21:38
My wife has been telling me to stop drinking for years now

I feel so abused .....


Stephen

yes, listening to a women is a form of abuse, there should be more awareness of this kind of abuse brought to the public's attention.

my ear's are not women's property.

yokel
9th February 2015, 21:59
I can actually accept the possibility that a pole would seek you out, just to beat some sense into you.

If you're told to stop, stop. If you don't, then it's rape.

that would depend if her panties are on the floor? if so then I'd call it being sexually aggressive.

Brian d marge
10th February 2015, 00:48
nearest i get to sexually aggressive is when ive forgotten the corkscrew

mashman
10th February 2015, 06:42
that would depend if her panties are on the floor? if so then I'd call it being sexually aggressive.

Cool. I'd be offering my services with a needle and thread to fix the elastic in her knickers.

unstuck
10th February 2015, 06:56
that would depend if his boxers are on the floor? if so then I'd call it being sexually satisfying .

Fixed that for you to what you really meant. If you do seriously believe some of the crap you are posting here, then I suggest you seek some sort of help.
Please do not ever have kids, I would hate for more people to be raised with your attitude to women.:msn-wink:

MisterD
10th February 2015, 07:15
If you're told to stop, stop. If you don't, then it's rape.

Can't disagree with that, but the idea that if a chick is drunk and what seems like a good idea the night before, is actually a mistake the next morning...*that's* rape now?

How come being pissed is a "defence" for the female ie "too drunk to give consent" but not for the male? How far would "we were both pissed and I wouldn't have shagged her sober" go as a defence against a rape charge for a bloke?

mashman
10th February 2015, 09:48
Can't disagree with that, but the idea that if a chick is drunk and what seems like a good idea the night before, is actually a mistake the next morning...*that's* rape now?

How come being pissed is a "defence" for the female ie "too drunk to give consent" but not for the male? How far would "we were both pissed and I wouldn't have shagged her sober" go as a defence against a rape charge for a bloke?

Being boozed up is not a defense. Rape is rape. Yup, unfortunately it can be as easy as saying "I said no and so I was raped" with someone ending up doing time for something they didn't do.

If no consent is given, then the rapist shouldn't have started. I guess one can only hope you get a decent judge, in the man's case, likely like the judge in the case mentioned. Tis a minefield. In order to avoid such a minefield, keep yer dick in yer undies.

unstuck
10th February 2015, 10:30
Being boozed up is not a defense. Rape is rape. Yup, unfortunately it can be as easy as saying "I said no and so I was raped" with someone ending up doing time for something they didn't do.

If no consent is given, then the rapist shouldn't have started. I guess one can only hope you get a decent judge, in the man's case, likely like the judge in the case mentioned. Tis a minefield. In order to avoid such a minefield, keep yer dick in yer undies.

A mate of mine did 4 yrs for shagging a woman who was drunk and willing at a party, but decided she was raped the next morning when she sobered up. We all saw how she was all over him the night before with her hands down his pants and stuff. But in the end he was found guilty and did his time. Pretty much ruined his life.
It is a tough one I reckon. Dont shag anyone you are not sure of, especially if alcohol is involved.

mashman
10th February 2015, 11:20
A mate of mine did 4 yrs for shagging a woman who was drunk and willing at a party, but decided she was raped the next morning when she sobered up. We all saw how she was all over him the night before with her hands down his pants and stuff. But in the end he was found guilty and did his time. Pretty much ruined his life.
It is a tough one I reckon. Dont shag anyone you are not sure of, especially if alcohol is involved.

Sounds like a fuckin nightmare. I've read a bit about honey traps where girls will pick up fellas who they know have money, then blackmail them with going to the police the following morning and crying rape. It's gotten to a stage where guys are starting to record themselves when rejecting the women, coz they know that they don't even have to stick their dick in 'em to face the accusation. I'm sure one of the vids was posted on KB somewhere and it was a pretty sobering watch.

Scuba_Steve
10th February 2015, 11:47
A mate of mine did 4 yrs for shagging a woman who was drunk and willing at a party, but decided she was raped the next morning when she sobered up. We all saw how she was all over him the night before with her hands down his pants and stuff. But in the end he was found guilty and did his time. Pretty much ruined his life.
It is a tough one I reckon. Dont shag anyone you are not sure of, especially if alcohol is involved.

Either that or always record... you know for defence & shit :shifty:

yokel
10th February 2015, 12:28
Fixed that for you to what you really meant. If you do seriously believe some of the crap you are posting here, then I suggest you seek some sort of help.
Please do not ever have kids, I would hate for more people to be raised with your attitude to women.:msn-wink:

Yes I do believe it.
If a woman dresses like a slut and behaves like a slut then she shall be treated like a slut.
But do I have the balls to back up what I believe with real life actions? Proly not.

unstuck
10th February 2015, 12:35
Yes I do believe it.
If a woman dresses like a slut and behaves like a slut then she shall be treated like a slut.
But do I have the balls to back up what I believe with real life actions? Proly not.

May I suggest that if you do happen to find a woman like that, rather than treating her like a slut and taking advantage of that situation, walk away.
You preach a lot about how fucked up the world is, why not make a stand and lead by example? Maybe then we could start to get somewhere as a society.:msn-wink:

avgas
10th February 2015, 14:34
What ever happened to the Harlem Shake?

Banditbandit
10th February 2015, 15:56
Can't disagree with that, but the idea that if a chick is drunk and what seems like a good idea the night before, is actually a mistake the next morning...*that's* rape now?

How come being pissed is a "defence" for the female ie "too drunk to give consent" but not for the male? How far would "we were both pissed and I wouldn't have shagged her sober" go as a defence against a rape charge for a bloke?

Hmm - if a man is that drunk he can't give consent then I suspect that brewers drop would also make rape impossible ... just sayin' ...

blue rider
10th February 2015, 17:12
file this under: You can't make this shit up or :facepalm:

http://polity.co.nz/content/parliamentary-opening-say-what

interesting times
we are living in interesting times

mashman
10th February 2015, 18:13
Shameless UK mother 'can't work because she's a parent' (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/26252151/shameless-uk-mother-cant-work-because-shes-a-parent/). Shameless? Someone has to be unemployed.

SwissLeaks revelations started with a story -- and a USB drive (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/swissleaks-revelations-started-story-usb-210026556.html)... wait what... journalists doing journalist shit? Can't be.

Ocean1
10th February 2015, 18:39
Shameless UK mother 'can't work because she's a parent' (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/26252151/shameless-uk-mother-cant-work-because-shes-a-parent/). Shameless? Someone has to be unemployed.

Meh. Easy fix...

"I used to get £1000 a month working but I get that on benefits so what's the point working?"

... stop paying the lazy bint.

bogan
10th February 2015, 18:43
Meh. Easy fix...

"I used to get £1000 a month working but I get that on benefits so what's the point working?"

... stop paying the lazy bint.

Yup, breeding should not be considered a right, much less a paycheck.

mashman
10th February 2015, 19:15
file this under: You can't make this shit up or :facepalm:

http://polity.co.nz/content/parliamentary-opening-say-what

interesting times
we are living in interesting times

was?.......

mashman
10th February 2015, 19:16
Meh. Easy fix...

"I used to get £1000 a month working but I get that on benefits so what's the point working?"

... stop paying the lazy bint.

Aye, then he'll go back to crime and the public will all have to pay more to keep him inside.

Ocean1
10th February 2015, 20:11
Aye, then he'll go back to crime and the public will all have to pay more to keep him inside.

He?

And the alternative to legally bludging from someone else's effort isn't to illegally bludge from someone else's effort. It's make the effort yourself.

yokel
10th February 2015, 20:20
A mate of mine did 4 yrs for shagging a woman who was drunk and willing at a party, but decided she was raped the next morning when she sobered up. We all saw how she was all over him the night before with her hands down his pants and stuff. But in the end he was found guilty and did his time. Pretty much ruined his life.
It is a tough one I reckon. Dont shag anyone you are not sure of, especially if alcohol is involved.

do women lie about rape? fuck yes! in fact women lie all the time, even to themselves.

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May I suggest that if you do happen to find a woman like that, rather than treating her like a slut and taking advantage of that situation, walk away.
You preach a lot about how fucked up the world is, why not make a stand and lead by example? Maybe then we could start to get somewhere as a society.:msn-wink:

yes I'm going to do just that, going to Cambodia to marry a girl (yes I have checked that she is indeed female) in a few mouths and bring her back to NZ so I can live out my sadistic patriarchal fantasies haha.

I'm going to do my best to unfuck the world, but the damage has been done and I seriously doubt it can be turned around.

mashman
10th February 2015, 20:28
He?

And the alternative to legally bludging from someone else's effort isn't to illegally bludge from someone else's effort. It's make the effort yourself.

Her partner.

That would be ideal... but alas, his criminal record blah blah blah.

unstuck
11th February 2015, 05:21
I'm going to do my best to unfuck the world, but the damage has been done and I seriously doubt it can be turned around.

I doubt very much you are going to change anything with your current attitude. I believe It can be turned around, but only by people with the willingness to change their own attitudes and belief systems.:msn-wink:

unstuck
11th February 2015, 06:00
https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10686901_831857133519834_7763981766301526691_n.png ?oh=8df77fcd46b8e690f9aa1cc5b80f825d&oe=555167E7

yokel
11th February 2015, 06:14
If only posting inspirational quotes on the internet actually did something.

I'm retuning to the ways of old.

mashman
11th February 2015, 06:29
If only posting inspirational quotes on the internet actually did something.

I'm retuning to the ways of old.

They do.

You mean the scared old white mutha fucka way? What a waste.

unstuck
11th February 2015, 06:44
If only posting inspirational quotes on the internet actually did something.

I'm retuning to the ways of old.

I guess it is easier for some people to go on blaming others for the way the world is.:msn-wink:

I am busy changing the world, one thought at a time.:niceone:

Good luck with the old ways though.:devil2:

bogan
11th February 2015, 07:07
https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10686901_831857133519834_7763981766301526691_n.png ?oh=8df77fcd46b8e690f9aa1cc5b80f825d&oe=555167E7

You sir, have just 'won' this thread. :2thumbsup

unstuck
11th February 2015, 07:15
You sir, have just 'won' this thread. :2thumbsup

Cool, what do I win? :bleh:

bogan
11th February 2015, 07:24
Cool, what do I win? :bleh:

Materialist pig, is spreading the enlightenment not enough? :Punk:

BuzzardNZ
11th February 2015, 07:39
Cool, what do I win? :bleh:

Congrats, your prize is Ed... enjoy!

unstuck
11th February 2015, 08:01
Materialist pig, is spreading the enlightenment not enough? :Punk:

I only light the wick, how high the flame goes depends on the candle.:devil2:

unstuck
11th February 2015, 08:04
Congrats, your prize is Ed... enjoy!

Cool, I need someone to research The shipyard in Ulsan South Korea for me. He likes research.:shifty:

BuzzardNZ
11th February 2015, 08:07
Cool, I need someone to research The shipyard in Ulsan South Korea for me. He likes research.:shifty:

Perhaps a one way ticket to Ulsan is in order then ;)

Banditbandit
11th February 2015, 14:00
Materialist pig, is spreading the enlightenment not enough? :Punk:

You could get arrested for spreading his kind of enlightenment ...

unstuck
11th February 2015, 19:08
You could get arrested for spreading his kind of enlightenment ...

That was just a stepping stone, Prefer the buzz that comes from a different high.:whistle:
So I suppose it WAS a gateway drug after all.:innocent:

blue rider
12th February 2015, 09:17
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/11/the-hsbc-files-what-we-know-so-far

oh man were it not for all these poor people, those lazy baby popping women, those dole bludging retirees we would have absolutly no problems and no debt to pay off and all be rosy rosy rosy like a marshmallow

suckers

but fear not our government is on to it....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10808314

hahahahahaha

because clearly it is easier to fleece the lazy bums then their mates and fellow bribed citizens of the million dollar suburbs

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11400417


feel better now

mashman
12th February 2015, 11:56
You gotta feel for the Irish coz they are getting shafted big time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3mzoECUok0

carbonhed
14th February 2015, 09:31
The perfect gift for the misanthropic doomer in your life.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Utopia-Experiment-Dylan-Evans/dp/1447261291/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=finantimes-21&linkCode=w00&linkId=ML4SE2F6C2DX65UO&creativeASIN=1447261291

Ocean1
14th February 2015, 12:09
The perfect gift for the misanthropic doomer in your life.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Utopia-Experiment-Dylan-Evans/dp/1447261291/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=finantimes-21&linkCode=w00&linkId=ML4SE2F6C2DX65UO&creativeASIN=1447261291

I don't have any. Why would you? I mean, they don't like me or mine or our way of life then why would anyone bother including one in their life?

Fuckem, they deserve all of the self-hatred they can get their hands on, and the privacy to enjoy it.

mashman
14th February 2015, 15:50
The perfect gift for the misanthropic doomer in your life.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Utopia-Experiment-Dylan-Evans/dp/1447261291/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=finantimes-21&linkCode=w00&linkId=ML4SE2F6C2DX65UO&creativeASIN=1447261291

I'm about to make that fucker a best seller.

Brian d marge
14th February 2015, 16:25
Im looking for the best cellar

carbonhed
14th February 2015, 17:05
I'm about to make that fucker a best seller.

Mention a misanthropic doomer and you'll hear the flutter of his leathery wings :laugh:

There's an entertaining review in the Financial Times.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/2d0633d4-a6e7-11e4-8a71-00144feab7de.html

Select quoote :-

"There are only a few paranoid steps from the sober assessment by one of the more pessimistic mainstream scientists, Martin Rees, that humankind has a 50/50 chance of reaching the next century, to the conviction that catastrophe is inevitable and imminent. Nor does it appear to take long before this dire prospect becomes a source of perverse glee. Judging by the doomers Evans met, many are misanthropes, revelling in the destruction of the vile modern world and the anticipation of being able to say gloatingly “I told you so”.

Even without these millenarian tendencies, the intensity of small community life was always going to be testing. People do not cease being competitive, arrogant, jealous, pigheaded or stupid just because they spend more time chopping wood than checking their iPhones. The romantic idea that the collapse of modernity will lead to a simpler, bucolic kind of existence has always been a myth. The basic problem with civilisation today is not that it is late capitalist, industrial or lacking in spirituality, but that it is human."

It reminded me of somebody... but I can't think who.

carbonhed
14th February 2015, 17:12
I don't have any. Why would you? I mean, they don't like me or mine or our way of life then why would anyone bother including one in their life?

Fuckem, they deserve all of the self-hatred they can get their hands on, and the privacy to enjoy it.

Family mate. Seems just about every female is a greenie. Endlessly exercised about the perils of vaccination but happy to take the benefits of herd immunity and leave others clutching the risks. :facepalm:

mashman
14th February 2015, 18:08
Mention a misanthropic doomer and you'll hear the flutter of his leathery wings :laugh:

It reminded me of somebody... but I can't think who.

Better prepared than not.

unstuck
14th February 2015, 18:48
http://theantimedia.org/six-news-outlets-following/ :whistle:

bogan
14th February 2015, 18:50
http://theantimedia.org/six-news-outlets-following/ :whistle:

Whatever happened to 'no news is good news'? :laugh:

unstuck
14th February 2015, 18:51
Whatever happened to 'no news is good news'? :laugh:

The times they are a changing. Or blowing in the wind, I disremember which. :shifty:

oldrider
14th February 2015, 18:56
Actually last I heard - the answer was blowing in the wind! - :yes:

unstuck
14th February 2015, 18:57
Actually last I heard - the answer was blowing in the wind! - :yes:

Must be a political convention on somewhere, quite a lot of hot air blowing through.:msn-wink:

oldrider
14th February 2015, 19:04
Must be a political convention on somewhere, quite a lot of hot air blowing through.:msn-wink:

Schooling is the answer and it "is" definitely blowing in the wind per se:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBPGW0SRFKw - :blip:

Ocean1
14th February 2015, 19:10
Actually last I heard - the answer was blowing in the wind! - :yes:

Not around here it isn't, not even with the veritable anti-hurricane of anti-fact blowing through stupid world.

Brian d marge
14th February 2015, 20:14
Not around here it isn't, not even with the veritable anti-hurricane of anti-fact blowing through stupid world.
yes the wind has died down a bit

where u been of late

we missed you

Brian d marge
14th February 2015, 20:31
sooo
just a quick recap here
acc through the roof due to neocom imf policies

house prices . .due to zero interest money

basic food prices up due to same neo con policies

electricity up due to same policies

health . . .same

egalitarian society nz once was destroyed by neo con policies

the rise of the 2 dollar shop

i said to a frog once . . .who was sitting in some very hot water ( this is a metaphor just in case one doesnt realise )

i told you so . . . .

not sure if it understood . . ( it can be any carbon based life form )

btw 1.4 million for a shitty bit of land in chch those Chinese have more money than sense...... hahahahaa

oh Im sorry . . . .your son cant afford to get on the housing ladder . . .must be because he aint working had or smart enough

dont worry ...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b263/On3w1ng3D4ng3L/DrSLovesYou.jpg


Stephen

carbonhed
14th February 2015, 21:00
sooo

i said to a frog once . . .who was sitting in some very hot water

i told you so . . . .



OK so that's the fuckwit it reminded me of.

Brian d marge
14th February 2015, 22:10
OK so that's the fuckwit it reminded me of.



Oh dear , at the limit of your known world again......

I was going to toss in a cheap remark about playing with your cousin , but then I decided it would be more fun to throw stones at the retard instead...

Tweedle dee and Tweedle dum havent been much fun of late ,

No offence to any actual retards out there , the recipient of this reply is trying to form , either A; a sentence , B: a thought and is struggling , and gives you lot a bad name .. He probably still thinks that Mono cultures are a good thing bless his little cotton socks


Stephen

bogan
15th February 2015, 08:47
either A; a sentence , B: a thought and is struggling

Mate, you really don't want to be calling others out on bad grammar; it would be transcendent of the whole pot-kettle thing.

mashman
15th February 2015, 10:48
Shit creek

i said to a frog once . . .who was sitting in some very hot water ( this is a metaphor just in case one doesnt realise )

Logical fallacy sarcasm

Stephen

https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10410958_789801401075867_5388845770732368902_n.jpg ?oh=652c9f9b46df222c3afb9e6ed735cee4&oe=5559D515

Brian d marge
15th February 2015, 14:09
Mate, you really don't want to be calling others out on bad grammar; it would be transcendent of the whole pot-kettle thing.
did i . . . .i dont think that tis what it says
for one thing as hard as i look i cannot see the word grammar

bogan
15th February 2015, 14:09
did i . . . .i dont think that tis what it says
for one thing as hard as i look i cannot see the word grammar

Exactly, even you don't seem to know what you are saying half the time :bleh:

mashman
15th February 2015, 15:14
UK may look into welfare cuts for addicts, overweight (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/26295290/uk-may-look-into-welfare-cuts-for-addicts-overweight/)... more nazi govt shit.

unstuck
15th February 2015, 15:33
more nazi govt shit.

How would you fix it? Seems like a reasonable idea to me, but would add that they should at least be offering some sort of life skills training to go with it.
Surely you are not suggesting we should be supporting those who do not wish to contribute to their own health and wellbeing? :whistle:

mashman
15th February 2015, 16:20
How would you fix it? Seems like a reasonable idea to me, but would add that they should at least be offering some sort of life skills training to go with it.
Surely you are not suggesting we should be supporting those who do not wish to contribute to their own health and wellbeing? :whistle:

I wouldn't try to fix it as it's entirely up to the individual... as is whether they decide to "improve" themselves or not.
No, that would be the ocean1 line... and you're already supporting them, including allowing the production of the shit that makes them obese. Get what ya pay for :devil2:

bogan
15th February 2015, 16:22
I wouldn't try to fix it

Good motto for the stupid worlders that is. :whistle:

unstuck
15th February 2015, 16:46
I wouldn't try to fix it as it's entirely up to the individual... as is whether they decide to "improve" themselves or not.
No, that would be the ocean1 line... and you're already supporting them, including allowing the production of the shit that makes them obese. Get what ya pay for :devil2:

So you are happy for someone to sit around smoking P, while you go out to work to pay them to do so? :shifty:

Ocean1
15th February 2015, 17:33
Good motto for the stupid worlders that is. :whistle:

Better candidate than:
Get what ya pay for

unstuck
15th February 2015, 17:35
http://earthweareone.com/russia-to-usa-tell-the-world-about-ets-or-we-will/ Oh goody, about time.:wait:

Ocean1
15th February 2015, 18:01
http://earthweareone.com/russia-to-usa-tell-the-world-about-ets-or-we-will/ Oh goody, about time.:wait:

"More detailed information on this topic you can get from a well-known movie called Men In Black" :facepalm:

Brian d marge
15th February 2015, 18:16
Exactly, even you don't seem to know what you are saying half the time :bleh:
oh I know alright

just simplifying it is the hard part

would make my life a lot easier if you fellas were up to speed

but we all crosses to bear. ,

bogan
15th February 2015, 18:20
oh I know alright

just simplifying it is the hard part

would make my life a lot easier if you fellas were up to speed

but we all crosses to bear. ,

Careful fella, blaming everyone else would put you in the stupid worlder category. Changes come from within and all that...

unstuck
15th February 2015, 18:33
"More detailed information on this topic you can get from a well-known movie called Men In Black" :facepalm:

Of course, I forget you are an EXPERT on everything.:shifty: Ed Ed, is that you....:innocent:

Ocean1
15th February 2015, 19:59
Of course, I forget you are an EXPERT on everything.:shifty: Ed Ed, is that you....:innocent:

It was a quote from your link, dude. Didn't you read it?

unstuck
15th February 2015, 20:01
It was a quote from your link, dude. Didn't you read it?

Dont be stupid, this is the internet.:2thumbsup

mashman
15th February 2015, 20:04
So you are happy for someone to sit around smoking P, while you go out to work to pay them to do so? :shifty:

I already do work to pay people to smoke P and I'm not unhappy about it. I'd much rather that they didn't have the power to hold the economy back, but hey, why be unhappy about it if there isn't a single financial alternative that can do anything about it. Got unemployed people, then you're going to have to pay for them and at the very same time take money away from at least one section of society that could actually do with the investment... surely you're used to it by now ;).

Strangely enough, society wouldn't be held back by the unemployed under a Resource Based Economy :wari:... alas, peeps iz just too dim to grasp that concept and they get what they pay for.

mashman
15th February 2015, 20:08
Good motto for the stupid worlders that is. :whistle:


Better candidate than:

Building a Brighter Future was taken.

mashman
15th February 2015, 20:11
Careful fella, blaming everyone else would put you in the stupid worlder category. Changes come from within and all that...

I didn't see any blame... just a statement of fact. Stop blaming people for your failed perception.

unstuck
15th February 2015, 20:12
I already do work to pay people to smoke P and I'm not unhappy about it. I'd much rather that they didn't have the power to hold the economy back, but hey, why be unhappy about it if there isn't a single financial alternative that can do anything about it. Got unemployed people, then you're going to have to pay for them and at the very same time take money away from at least one section of society that could actually do with the investment... surely you're used to it by now ;).

Strangely enough, society wouldn't be held back by the unemployed under a Resource Based Economy :wari:... alas, peeps iz just too dim to grasp that concept and they get what they pay for.

Keep giving them enough fish though, and soon there will be nothing but plastic in it.:rolleyes:

mashman
15th February 2015, 20:19
Keep giving them enough fish though, and soon there will be nothing but plastic in it.:rolleyes:

I doon't get the analogy laddy.

unstuck
15th February 2015, 20:21
I doon't get the analogy laddy.

Teach a man to fish and shit. It's in the bible so it's true.:msn-wink:

mashman
15th February 2015, 20:26
Teach a man to fish and shit. It's in the bible so it's true.:msn-wink:

You can only teach him when he's ready :bleh:

bogan
15th February 2015, 20:39
I didn't see any blame... just a statement of fact. Stop blaming people for your failed perception.

Didn't see any blame allocated in my post either, perhaps you should start blaming yourself for your failed perceptions :whistle:

bogan
15th February 2015, 20:40
Keep giving them enough fish though, and soon there will be nothing but plastic in it.:rolleyes:

You too have your witty pants on today. That's pretty clever, no wonder mashy didn't get it :bleh:

mashman
15th February 2015, 20:49
Didn't see any blame allocated in my post either, perhaps you should start blaming yourself for your failed perceptions :whistle:

Or in your case, carry on.

bogan
15th February 2015, 21:11
Or in your case, carry on.

Exactly, one of the many reasons I am so much smarter than you is the ability to quickly see where I am to 'blame' and learn from it. It's a catch 22 in your case.

Akzle
15th February 2015, 21:17
You can only teach him when he's ready :bleh:

if a student fails to learn.... the teacher fails to teach.

mashman
15th February 2015, 21:22
Exactly, one of the many reasons I am so much smarter than you is the ability to quickly see where I am to 'blame' and learn from it. It's a catch 22 in your case.

Thanks Doc, I can now sleep much betterer. :killingme@catch 22.

mashman
15th February 2015, 21:27
if a student fails to learn.... the teacher fails to teach.

They both get to take an early lunch, huzzah.

unstuck
16th February 2015, 06:16
They both get to take an early lunch, huzzah.

But there are no fish left, what ya gonna eat?:innocent:

mashman
16th February 2015, 06:30
But there are no fish left, what ya gonna eat?:innocent:

In my reality there will be fish :D

unstuck
16th February 2015, 06:34
In my reality there will be fish :D

Do you get ghost chips with your ghost fish bro?:msn-wink:

unstuck
16th February 2015, 06:46
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/03/19/best-known-peer-reviewed-medical-journal-officially-classifies-fluoride-as-a-neurotoxin/

Peer reviewed and on the internet, must be true aye Ed? :msn-wink:

mashman
16th February 2015, 07:00
Do you get ghost chips with your ghost fish bro?:msn-wink:

I better or I'll blame the management.

unstuck
16th February 2015, 07:12
I better or I'll blame the management.

Blame is so much better and easier than responsibility.:lol:

mashman
16th February 2015, 14:55
Blame is so much better and easier than responsibility.:lol:

I wish I knew the difference :laugh:

oldrider
16th February 2015, 15:15
USA keeping up a long trend of super hero BS!:http://www.storyleak.com/the-true-chris-kyle-story-finally-comes-out/ - :cool:

unstuck
16th February 2015, 17:40
http://earthweareone.com/tesla-batteries-to-power-entire-homes-out-soon-elon-musk/ Thoughts????:cool:

bogan
16th February 2015, 17:45
http://earthweareone.com/tesla-batteries-to-power-entire-homes-out-soon-elon-musk/ Thoughts????:cool:

I dunno, on the one hand energy storage can be up to fuck all since it is all used anyway; on the other, if it buffers demand and infrastructure load it will be of some use. I think he might have more luck just putting inverters in the cars so they can buffer it, if the batteries are good for that.

unstuck
16th February 2015, 17:48
I dunno, on the one hand energy storage can be up to fuck all since it is all used anyway; on the other, if it buffers demand and infrastructure load it will be of some use. I think he might have more luck just putting inverters in the cars so they can buffer it, if the batteries are good for that.

Yep, at least I think it may be a step in A direction.:scratch:
What kind of raping of the earth is required to produce the batteries? If it is worse than what is already happening, then I guess It is a step backwards? :scratch:
Exciting times none the less.:2thumbsup

mashman
16th February 2015, 17:54
http://earthweareone.com/tesla-batteries-to-power-entire-homes-out-soon-elon-musk/ Thoughts????:cool:

Reckon I could be interested in sommink like that.

unstuck
16th February 2015, 17:57
Reckon I could be interested in sommink like that.

Be great for a grow room out in the bush.:shifty:

mashman
16th February 2015, 18:06
Be great for a grow room out in the bush.:shifty:

heh heh heh... worth excavating under the hoose eh.

bogan
16th February 2015, 18:07
Yep, at least I think it may be a step in A direction.:scratch:
What kind of raping of the earth is required to produce the batteries? If it is worse than what is already happening, then I guess It is a step backwards? :scratch:
Exciting times none the less.:2thumbsup

Once they nail down a clean battery, it'll be all good. But I think lithium is a bit damaging to the environment. Although a lot of the raping is simply due to the energy consumed in manufacturing (as is true for most things); start at the source and focus on green power production is the step in the Right direction imo.

unstuck
16th February 2015, 18:36
heh heh heh... worth excavating under the hoose eh.

Need a clean skin for that. Im filthy when it comes to that.:sweatdrop

mashman
16th February 2015, 18:40
Need a clean skin for that. Im filthy when it comes to that.:sweatdrop

Is that where you keep that goat I keep hearing about?

unstuck
16th February 2015, 18:45
Is that where you keep that goat I keep hearing about?

Nah, she gets her own little shed. :innocent:
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Brian d marge
16th February 2015, 19:30
america just put tarrifs on solar panels imported from china , . . .
a month or so before the utility companies were complaining about daytime loads and their loss of revenue. . . . . . .strange that . . . .

Akzle
16th February 2015, 19:42
america just put tarrifs on solar panels imported from china , . . .
a month or so before the utility companies were complaining about daytime loads and their loss of revenue. . . . . . .strange that . . . .

it's like the harley story all over again... and we all know how that turned out.... they're still shit!

Brian d marge
16th February 2015, 19:50
it's like the harley story all over again... and we all know how that turned out.... they're still shit!
actually the new harleys are a nice bit of kit . .

just not american anymore hahahahha

how much parts are sourced overseas
are they even made in america now . . by americans even

cant even use them as boat anchors as they are too bloody heavy and the ship falls over . korean ferry . . .concordia etc

even that thai airlines had problems taking off when it had a box full of harley parts as checked baggage

unstuck
16th February 2015, 19:54
http://themindunleashed.org/2015/02/muslim-man-blindfolded-took-streets-happened.html :wari::wari:

Brian d marge
16th February 2015, 21:17
http://themindunleashed.org/2015/02/muslim-man-blindfolded-took-streets-happened.html :wari::wari:
wonder if it will make fox news