Sidecar Racing

[Grumph]

[QUOTE=Kickaha;

Couple of times loading up at night with no lights in the rear has been a real prick[/QUOTE]

I'm looking forward to seeing what scurvy makes of that statement.....

[Kickaha]

I'm looking forward to seeing what scurvy makes of that statement.....

Correct answer is "who cares" not as though he has anything worth reading to type

[swarfie]

Just looking at doing some LEd lighting, it's got fittings in the back for small fluro tubes and it looks like there's an LED bulb that fits and works if you take the starter out

Couple of times loading up at night with no lights in the rear has been a real prick

Yep I just bought a strip in a roll and cut off suitable lengths to fit (peel and stick) and solder them in the place of the fluoro tubes and just used the existing housing, switches and diffuser covers. Probably works out cheaper to buy it that way than pre-made lights. Got heaps left over so might look at a way of using some in my classics for day riding lights. :clap:

[nodrog]

Wot you talkin bout, it's early...I'm not drunk yet. I just went out to check the lumins. Gunna need them :cool: in our pit at night time now. Holy shit thems bright :banana:

Lumins? Is that what they call Pate and kick when they hang around the toilets?

[scrivy]

in the rear has been a real prick

WTF??? You mean you can self sodomise yourself?? :devil2:

[swarfie]

WTF??? You mean you can self sodomise yourself?? :devil2:

Bout up to par. Live up to your'e expectations did it Grumph?

[scrivy]

Bout up to par. Live up to your'e expectations did it Grumph?

Nah, ya have to be careful with Kick now. He's gotten all professional and serious..... I don't wanna be the one to turn him into another Shaun.....:no::bleh:

[Kickaha]

Yep I just bought a strip in a roll and cut off suitable lengths to fit (peel and stick) and solder them in the place of the fluoro tubes and just used the existing housing, switches and diffuser covers. Probably works out cheaper to buy it that way than pre-made lights.

$6.95 for 200mm LED strip vs $23 and upwards for pre made lights, not really a hard choice

[husaberg]

Nah, ya have to be careful with Kick now. He's gotten all professional and serious..... I don't wanna be the one to turn him into another Shaun.....:no::bleh:

Yeah but has he done the beast with two backs with the Caprine.......Please don't post photos

[scrivy]

Yeah but has he done the beast with two backs with the Caprine.......Please don't post photos

I'm picking he has.............

I once saw scratch marks down his body when he was putting his leathers on...

He advised he now clips its hooves......

[Grumph]

Bout up to par. Live up to your'e expectations did it Grumph?

Sadly, no....you realise i only read this thread for it's entertainment value as on dialup i can't watch the videos.

[haydes55]

At risk of posting a message relevant to the thread title...... What boots do swingers prefer to use?

This is for the speedway sidecar, but mx boots have no flexibility, and speedway boots are for solos. I was going to try using my old dririder commuter boots and see how they hold up.

Suggestions or if you have some size 10ish boots for sale that would do the job. Cheers

[swarfie]

At risk of posting a message relevant to the thread title...... What boots do swingers prefer to use?

This is for the speedway sidecar, but mx boots have no flexibility, and speedway boots are for solos. I was going to try using my old dririder commuter boots and see how they hold up.

Suggestions or if you have some size 10ish boots for sale that would do the job. Cheers

Any thing that's comfortable and flexible with good grip will do the job as long as they cover your ankle bones so in the event of shit happening you've got protection for your ankles. I found my bike racing boots too stiff. Basket ball boots/shoes are okay.

[Stirts]

At risk of posting a message relevant to the thread title...... What boots do swingers prefer to use?

Best you ask these fullas...
https://www.facebook.com/SwingersInHamilton

:bleh:

[haydes55]

Best you ask these fullas...

https://www.facebook.com/SwingersInHamilton



:bleh:


Hahahahahahaha you win blings

[scrivy]

At risk of posting a message relevant to the thread title...... What boots do swingers prefer to use?


North Islanders wear anything flexible and comfortable.
South Islanders wear gumboots - for obvious reasons......

[Stirts]

Hahahahahahaha you win blings

Careful, you'll get accused of being in the bling ring...and no, it is not as exciting as it sounds.

But seriously now. I think footwear comes down to personal choice, and with my limited experience possibly to do with not only the type/size of deck your passenger-ing on but also your style of passenger-ing too. I know Richie Lawrance wears road boots on the inside of his leathers, Little Jo wears sneakers, and Tracey is currently trying out those flash little ankle bootie things.

[swarfie]

Careful, you'll get accused of being in the bling ring...and no, it is not as exciting as it sounds.

But seriously now. I think footwear comes down to personal choice, and with my limited experience possibly to do with not only the type/size of deck your passenger-ing on but also your style of passenger-ing too. I know Richie Lawrance wears road boots on the inside of his leathers, Little Jo wears sneakers, and Tracey is currently trying out those flash little ankle bootie things.

Little Jo wears sneakers that she stole from her Mother :laugh:
Legally (MNZ rules) they must cover your ankles so just wear what ever you feel comfortable with and if they don't cover your ankles just duct tape them to the bottom of your leathers like Jo does. By the way Mum doesn't want her sneakers back now...they're rooted :laugh:

[old rig]

Little Jo wears sneakers that she stole from her Mother :laugh:
Legally (MNZ rules) they must cover your ankles so just wear what ever you feel comfortable with and if they don't cover your ankles just duct tape them to the bottom of your leathers like Jo does. By the way Mum doesn't want her sneakers back now...they're rooted :laugh:

with last two words are you on the face book page in hamilton

[Kickaha]

At risk of posting a message relevant to the thread title...... What boots do swingers prefer to use?

Yeah well it's a pity more people wouldn't post stuff that is relevant

I used to use car racing boots, more grip and more feel, I wouldn't ever go back to Motorcycle boots

[sidecar bob]

Yeah well it's a pity more people wouldn't post stuff that is relevant



If we did this thread would only have three pages.

[nodrog]

For speedway you can just have bare feet, its just fuckin mud.

[Fast Eddie]

I used ankle high (leather) converse sneakers, But car racing boots are my favourite.. I still use them in the riders seat. Good feel and flexibility. Like those hoes in Bejing

don't one of the motorcycle boot companies make a dedicated swingers boot now? or at least a more flexible ankle high boot..

[scrivy]

Yeah well it's a pity more people wouldn't post disgusting, rude, smutty, pornographic, hardcore gaybo, goat sex items.

I used to use car racing boots, more grip and more feel, I wouldn't ever go back to Motorcycle boots

So what is it?? You used to use, you wouldn't go back??

So you still do use them in the drivers seat???

Oh, and we don't post that naughty shit Kick....

[Kickaha]

don't one of the motorcycle boot companies make a dedicated swingers boot now? or at least a more flexible ankle high boot..

Daytona make the sidecar boot you're thinking of, most of the top guys use them, ugly and expensive £280, although I guess that's no worse the Sidi or some other brands
http://www.motochannel.co.uk/media/catalog/product/d/a/daytona-sidecar.jpg

[Kickaha]

If we did this thread would only have three pages.

Well with Scrivy on ignore the thread does get quite a bit shorter, but it's still considerably more than 3 pages

[swarfie]

with last two words are you on the face book page in hamilton

That would be an emphatic NO :shutup::no::no::no::no::facepalm:

[swarfie]

Daytona make the sidecar boot you're thinking of, most of the top guys use them, ugly and expensive £280, although I guess that's no worse the Sidi or some other brands
http://www.motochannel.co.uk/media/catalog/product/d/a/daytona-sidecar.jpg

Holy shit you wouldn't want a boot up the arse with those....:pinch::sick:

[Fast Eddie]

Daytona make the sidecar boot you're thinking of

That's them.

I like the extra toe caps - damn clown feet drag on the ground every now and again in the riders seat - good for passengers too, I used to wear out the old toes in the monkey seat

[haydes55]

Yeah well it's a pity more people wouldn't post stuff that is relevant



I used to use car racing boots, more grip and more feel, I wouldn't ever go back to Motorcycle boots


Now that's an idea! My mates raced cars most of his life, I'll try borrow an old pair of his and see how they go.

[nodrog]

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=52652

probably better than Kai's windle, and cheap.

[sidecar bob]

Well with Scrivy on ignore the thread does get quite a bit shorter, but it's still considerbaly more than 3 pages

Did your sponsor make you do that? :spanking:

[Drew]

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=52652

probably better than Kai's windle, and cheap.
That's a bargain!

[Kickaha]

Did your sponsor make you do that? :spanking:

My sponsors don't make me do anything, I just got tired of his constant dribble, he was probably funny once but that would have been a decade or so back

[Kickaha]

probably better than Kai's windle, and cheap.

Not now the Windle is going properly it wouldn't be, even with what it'd cost landed it would still be cheap though

[husaberg]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/teamheronsuzuki/sets/72157594371961909/

[Kickaha]

15 F1/F2 Modern Sidecars entered for the BSTT so far and 11 classics, thought there'd be a few more than that

[nodrog]

15 F1/F2 Modern Sidecars entered for the BSTT so far and 11 classics, thought there'd be a few more than that

Theres an aussie championship on the week after so most of the moderns arent coming

[Kickaha]

Theres an aussie championship on the week after so most of the moderns arent coming

Supporting their own local Championship instead? that'll never catch on :msn-wink:

There were 17 moderns on the grid at Wangas without any Oz bikes

[Drew]

15 F1/F2 Modern Sidecars entered for the BSTT so far and 11 classics, thought there'd be a few more than that
Still a good field, should be some good racing.

[nodrog]

Supporting their own local Championship instead? that'll never catch on :msn-wink:

There were 17 moderns on the grid at Wangas without any Oz bikes

Ok-

No bert
no LB's
no spike

thats my guesses

Adding up yet?

[sidecar bob]

Ok-

No bert
no LB's
no spike

thats my guesses

Adding up yet?

Yeah, a bit rough seeing as one of those sent a very terse e mail to my wife about us not supporting the local scene when we went to the Bazza in Aus.

[scrivy]

Yeah, a bit rough seeing as one of those sent a very terse e mail to my wife about us not supporting the local scene when we went to the Bazza in Aus.

Whose sandpit do we have to play in??
Is there a sandpit bully??

[sidecar bob]

Whose sandpit do we have to play in??
Is there a sandpit bully??

Na, just someone shagging a goat behind the climbing tower.

[scrivy]

Na, just someone shagging a goat behind the climbing tower.

I think we know who that'll be.....:rolleyes:

[sidecar bob]

I think we know who that'll be.....:rolleyes:

Its always little Johnny isint it.

[scrivy]

Its always little Johnny isint it.

Peeheehee...

Fuck it, I'll be on ignore more now...... :2thumbsup

[Drew]

Ok-

No bert
no LB's
no spike

thats my guesses

Adding up yet?
Who or what is an LB's?

[Danger Dave]

Who or what is an LB's?

I'm guessing Lawerence brothers

[Drew]

I'm guessing Lawerence brothers

Oh yep, that makes sense.

[nodrog]

Who or what is an LB's?

Dude I thought you were the smart one?

[Kickaha]

Still a good field, should be some good racing.
Yup, shold be a good one, not long to go now

Na, just someone shagging a goat behind the climbing tower.
Can't Noddoggy leave those goats alone

Fuck it, I'll be on ignore more now...... :2thumbsup
I just made that bit up Dick

Dude I thought you were the smart one?
If you'd met the rest of them you'd know there aren't any smart ones

[Drew]

Dude I thought you were the smart one?

Ummmmm, why?

[jellywrestler]

Dude I thought you were the smart one?

are you kidding, he takes an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes....

[scrivy]

Yup, shold be a good one, not long to go now

I just made that bit up Dick

If you'd met the rest of them you'd know there aren't any smart ones

I hear the forecast is for heavy rain.....

I know....

Quote of the week!

[scrivy]

are you kidding, he takes an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes....

Yeah but can you count to 12 on your toes?:eek:

[Kickaha]

I hear the forecast is for heavy rain....

That would be excellent

They tell me the leaks in the pit sheds have been fixed

[Kickaha]

Looks like a sidecar event on at Manfield in a couple of weeks time
http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/10570425/Students-itching-to-test-drive-their-new-wheels

Feilding High School has some new wheels which are sure to impress at a bumper contest at Manfeild.

The school will be entering new sidecars for the secondary schools' Mini-Moto GP on October 13-15, which will be raced by year 13 engineering students.

Students from Feilding High School and more than 300 other entries from around the country will be at the annual fixture.

Designed by students last year and made by Fibreglass Developments in Feilding, the motorbikes and sidecars will reach speeds of up to 80kmh.

Feilding High School engineering teacher Roger Emerson said this was five seconds faster than the un-streamlined ones they had previously had.

Emerson said the students were excited to test them out on race day. He said the boys were extremely competitive, especially with each other.

Student Simon Goss, 17, said the new sidecars were awesome. He said it was easier to be the driver than the swinger in the sidecar.

"The driver just keeps you moving, the swinger has all the control."

Emerson said one wrong move by the person in the sidecar and they would rip the bum out of their leathers.
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- Manawatu Standard

[Pumba]

Shit those are looking the part now. Found some more photos here http://www.composites.co.nz/fahs-sidecars.html

[Drew]

https://m.facebook.com/thedailystar/photos/a.196941016989436.61840.161612017189003/939142939435903/?type=1&ref=bookmark

Oh fuck I hope that works. Wonder if that sifting little cunt still reads this thread.

[nodrog]

https://m.facebook.com/thedailystar/photos/a.196941016989436.61840.161612017189003/939142939435903/?type=1&ref=bookmark

Oh fuck I hope that works. Wonder if that sifting little cunt still reads this thread.

when the fuck did goats start having calves?

[husaberg]

when the fuck did goats start having calves?

its those bits behind those shins they have 4 of them na just kidding ya:msn-wink:

[Kickaha]

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=52707
F1 Tubular Baker 1000 Suzuki, 2007 European Championship Winner.
New paint job for Mallory Sidecar Bonanza ( 9th )
Race Prepared.
9 Wheels.
Must go, Wife not happy!
£9,000.00

Also unused K8 engine flat sump Yoshi Cam, Sprockets etc.
£2,000.00

Loads of spare parts and tyres

Call Chris on: 07966 360 456
Email: ssd@ssdltd.info

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=9813&t=1

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=9814&t=1

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=9819&t=1

[Kickaha]

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=52711
F1 Windle built and maintained by Steve Abbott.
K5/6 Suzuki engine built to BSB specification.
Koni suspension with brand new Maxton F/B as well.
AP brakes with pagid brake pads.
New radiators built by S. Abbott this year.
new under tray built by S. Abbott this year.
Good slicks and new wets.
Boxes of spares, including chain sprockets and new fuel pump.
This bike has had thousands spent on it this year.
Excellent handling machine.
£9250 ono
If interested call 07941043108.

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=9828&t=1

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=9829&t=1

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=9830&t=1

[scrivy]

F1 Windle built and maintained by Steve Abbott.
K5/6 Suzuki engine built to BSB specification.
Koni suspension with brand new Maxton F/B as well.
AP brakes with pagid brake pads.
New radiators built by S. Abbott this year.
new under tray built by S. Abbott this year.
Good slicks and new wets.
Boxes of spares, including chain sprockets and new fuel pump.
This bike has had thousands spent on it this year.
Excellent handling machine.
£9250 ono


That's alot of rig for that coin.
Why are they going so cheap?

[Kickaha]

Why are they going so cheap?

Fuck knows, probably about 25k landed here , looks to be simailar to the one Barry and Robbie are on but it's got the LCR style master cylinder conversion

[Grumph]

That's alot of rig for that coin.
Why are they going so cheap?

i hear on another forum with lotsa Poms that fields are down across the board in the UK - except the very top level.

Ironically, Shaun can probably answer this one better.....

[Drew]

i hear on another forum with lotsa Poms that fields are down across the board in the UK - except the very top level.

Ironically, Shaun can probably answer this one better.....

I doubt it. No one over there talks to him these days either.

[Kickaha]

i hear on another forum with lotsa Poms that fields are down across the board in the UK - except the very top level..
With the sidecars they seem to frequently have a choice of 2-3 different meetings in a weekend so some meetings will have good numbers at the expense of others being a bit slim

[Shaun Harris]

i hear on another forum with lotsa Poms that fields are down across the board in the UK - except the very top level.

Ironically, Shaun can probably answer this one better.....


Fields are fuller of Lower quallity riders and equipment like that Fuk wit Dreamer Drew on here that thinks he know;s everyone amd every thing. Money is just getting harder and harder for Sidecar teams to find to race seriously in the UK these days

[scrivy]

I guess in reality, everyones dollars are lean at the moment, thanks to the GFC (and no Gordie - that's not KFC). The UK and Europe in particular. I still would have thought that they would have gone for more coin than that though. Seriously, that's just giving them away! I guess they are long bikes though..... :crazy::sick::oi-grr::whistle: (Im kidding Kick....) :yes:
I wish we had more rigs here in NZ...

[Shaun Harris]

I guess in reality, everyones dollars are lean at the moment, thanks to the GFC (and no Gordie - that's not KFC). The UK and Europe in particular. I still would have thought that they would have gone for more coin than that though. Seriously, that's just giving them away! I guess they are long bikes though..... :crazy::sick::oi-grr::whistle: (Im kidding Kick....) :yes:
I wish we had more rigs here in NZ...


There sure are some very very cheap rigs availlable in the UK

[nodrog]

..I wish we had more rigs here in NZ...

feel free to buy me one of those long chairs, so I can chop it up and make a aluminium monocock hub steer short bike.




There sure are some very very rigs availlable in the UK

Yep, and theres some very very Retards in NZ.

[Shaun Harris]

feel free to buy me one of those long chairs, so I can chop it up and make a aluminium monocock hub steer short bike.





Yep, and theres some very very Retards in NZ.


Now that is not a very PC Word to use in public ya HOMO

[scrivy]

I've said it before, look lovers.... get a fucken room.......

I will pay for the room, buy the lube, the anal toys, and the frozen chicken.... but I will not procure a goat... OK?!
Oh, and ask Drew to join ya's..... the 3 of you would make an excellent movie......

:banana::banana:

[nodrog]

I've said it before, look lovers.... get a fucken room.......

I will pay for the room, buy the lube, the anal toys, and the frozen chicken.... but I will not procure a goat... OK?!
Oh, and ask Drew to join ya's..... the 3 of you would make an excellent movie......

:banana::banana:

I've got a room, in Taupo, with toys, already.

[scrivy]

feel free to buy me one of those long chairs, so I can chop it up and make a aluminium monocock hub steer short bike.


But with two people on it, wouldn't that be a duocock, or a bicock?? Oh, I get it, you'd have a female passenger...... I'm onto it!! So it would be called a duotube like your BMW.

A short hub steer monocoque would be my dream rig.

[scrivy]

I've got a room, in Taupo, with toys, already.

I told ya before, Eve has burnt those 'yogurt' covered toys you used.....

She wants to know why there were pubes around her toothpaste tube from when you last stayed.....

Oh fuck!!
I just opened up my tiger balm, and there's pubes in that too ya sick fuck!!
Teenie did say you were a hot fuck....... clitterally.....

[nodrog]

.......
A short hub steer monocoque would be my dream rig.

Dude, I have tin snips and a rivet gun.


I told ya before, Eve has burnt those 'yogurt' covered toys you used.....

they used me bro.

[nodrog]

She wants to know why there were pubes around her toothpaste tube from when you last stayed.....

must be Pates, I don't have any.

[scrivy]

must be Pates, I don't have any.

How do you know he has??

[scrivy]

they used me bro.

Not what they said....................
Mind you.... BIG TED does smell like shit......

[Shaun Harris]

I've said it before, look lovers.... get a fucken room.......

I will pay for the room, buy the lube, the anal toys, and the frozen chicken.... but I will not procure a goat... OK?!
Oh, and ask Drew to join ya's..... the 3 of you would make an excellent movie......

:banana::banana:


Fuk that and leave his pollution in a room, be better off in the paddock with me and the other goat. I will keep my eyes open for special cheap rigs when I am in Ireland next year for ya all

[nodrog]

How do you know he has??

I thought it was your moustache at first.

[nodrog]

test drive video of the new LCR prototype released


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHl24QynOM

[scrivy]

test drive video of the new LCR prototype released


Might be fucken ugly, but looks like fun!!
I was expecting it to do wheelies!!

[Kickaha]

A short hub steer monocoque would be my dream rig.
The first sidecar I raced was a short centre hub steer but tube frame, there were 2-3 short mono centre hub steer built in Australia several years back with 600cc motors in them, fuck knows why they were built because they weren't actually legal for the F2 class form what I remember

[scrivy]

The first sidecar I raced was a short centre hub steer but tube frame, there were 2-3 short mono centre hub steer built in Australia several years back with 600cc motors in them, fuck knows why they were built because they weren't actually legal for the F2 class form what I remember

Sounds strange....

Chris Pyms rig does it for me. All I would want is either Aarons or Spikes engine, then you'd never touch it.
302970302971

[Drew]

But with two people on it, wouldn't that be a duocock, or a bicock?? Oh, I get it, you'd have a female passenger...... I'm onto it!! So it would be called a duotube like your BMW.

A short hub steer monocoque would be my dream rig.
Would there be any advantage in taking up half of your passengers room, with an aluminium box?

[scrivy]

Would there be any advantage in taking up half of your passengers room, with an aluminium box?

Why start caring about passengers now???? :lol:

[Drew]

Why start caring about passengers now???? :lol:Touchè.

I gotta care for mine, I'd struggle to replace him.

[scrivy]

Touchè.

I gotta care for mine, I'd struggle to replace him.

There's heaps of replacements down at the home........:shifty:

I know of a few people with death wishes......

[Kickaha]

Chris Pyms rig does it for me. All I would want is either Aarons or Spikes engine, then you'd never touch it.
Wasn't that for sale a while back?, it still ran a swing arm in the rear though?

Would there be any advantage in taking up half of your passengers room, with an aluminium box?
How much room do you think they need?

[scrivy]

Would there be any advantage in taking up half of your passengers room, with an aluminium box?

But if it was a hairy box in my passengers room, then it would be fucked in a few hours..... :shutup::shit::facepalm::yes:

[scrivy]

Wasn't that for sale a while back?


Yeah, I heard $70K Aussie......

Too much for dis kid....

[scrivy]

Kick or Drew, can you tell me what's in Aarons or Spikes engines??? Rods, cams, pistons -what else to make them so fucken quick?

[Drew]

I know of a few people with death wishes......There in lies the problem. Those with the right aptitude for not giving a fuck, usually aren't that flash at the job.



How much room do you think they need?
You remember short chairs, right? Passenger actually matters on them.:bleh:

[scrivy]

You remember short chairs, right? Passenger actually matters on them.:bleh:

:corn::shutup:

You get hover on yours Drew????

[Kickaha]

I gotta care for mine, I'd struggle to replace him.

No you don't and no you wouldn't, this guy will do it, looks like he'd be happy to race with Shaun too


Sidecars are dangerous anyway, why be picky about who you jump on for? You could just as easily fall off a top outfit, as you would with a brain damaged rider.

[scrivy]

No you don't and no you wouldn't, this guy will do it, looks like he'd be happy to race with Shaun too

:2thumbsup:rofl::rofl:
Can we get a whole heap of them for the BS?? Would be hilarious to watch.

[Kickaha]

:2thumbsup:rofl::rofl:
Can we get a whole heap of them for the BS?? Would be hilarious to watch.
So long as they shout coke as well as beer

[Drew]

Kick or Drew, can you tell me what's in Aarons or Spikes engines??? Rods, cams, pistons -what else to make them so fucken quick?From the top. Cams, valve springs and retainers, valves, injectors, flowed head, slugs, rods, crank (if someone were to be doing it properly but you can get away with a standard one), clutch (the whole lot), selector barrel and shifter star, and oil pump and pickup. Then there's the ECU and loom.

That represents $70k ish on a superbike. I doubt there's a lot on the list that doesn't go into a top chair motor.

To sum up, get a/another mortgage on your house broseph.

[Drew]

:corn::shutup:

You get hover on yours Drew????Yeah boooooiiiiiiiii. Depends what I'm trying to achieve as to how impressive it is though. Can keep it to about six inches off the ground when we're trying to go fast.

This all might change though, since the good Dr might have an appropriate spring for the rear shock.

[nodrog]

...
You remember short chairs, right? Passenger actually matters on them.:bleh:

With a monocock tub short chair the fuel tank would be around the back wheel helping with traction, lessening the required passenger input on right handers. well that's how I would build it.


Yeah, I heard $70K Aussie......

Too much for dis kid....

yeah, and theres 2 off them, identical. when one has a problem the other gets pulled and fixed too, regardless of whether its broken or not.


.... and oil pump.....

god knows why, Cresent Suzuki used the standard oil and water pump on Hoppers 2011 bike, just used a stronger pressure relief valve, but that only made around 220bhp at the wheel.

[Kickaha]

That represents $70k ish on a superbike. I doubt there's a lot on the list that doesn't go into a top chair motor.

To sum up, get a/another mortgage on your house broseph.

You could buy a 2010 motor off Yoshi Merica with 207hp for $12,500NZ, if you bought direct through them instead of the middleman in Oz apparently it was only $3600US

[Kickaha]

This all might change though, since the good Dr might have an appropriate spring for the rear shock.
How do you work out what spring rate you need, I've always thought the rear of our bike is too stiff, but the UK guys say to run it that way

[Shaun Harris]

You could buy a 2010 motor off Yoshi Merica with 207hp for $12,500NZ, if you bought direct through them instead of the middleman in Oz apparently it was only $3600US



or you could just Pay Guy Martin to build you one

[Drew]

How do you work out what spring rate you need, I've always thought the rear of our bike is too stiff, but the UK guys say to run it that way

Same way as a solo, measure the sag. Helps to have a basic understanding of what each function of a shock does.

Standard on the shock we run is about 8-9kg, reckon we'll go 11 or 12 to gain the stability I want. But if that kills the pace we can launch at, I'll find a middle ground and get the compression stack stiffened up to all fuck in the middle.

[Drew]

or you could just Pay Guy Martin to build you one

Why are you still here?


Anyhoo. $70k would be paying retail or close to it. Mr Clee could get a better deal for you if you signed a waiver saying the motor was not going in competition with a Suzuki NZ backed bike while it was still current.

[Shaun Harris]

Why are you still here?


Anyhoo. $70k would be paying retail or close to it. Mr Clee could get a better deal for you if you signed a waiver saying the motor was not going in competition with a Suzuki NZ backed bike while it was still current.




Cause concrete walls and bitches like you cannot kill me

[Shaun Harris]

Same way as a solo, measure the sag. Helps to have a basic understanding of what each function of a shock does.

Standard on the shock we run is about 8-9kg, reckon we'll go 11 or 12 to gain the stability I want. But if that kills the pace we can launch at, I'll find a middle ground and get the compression stack stiffened up to all fuck in the middle.




you'll crash it or blow the piece of shit real quickly anyway, so dont waste ya money on springs

[Drew]

you'll crash it or blow the piece of shit real quickly anyway, so dont waste ya money on springs

Come swing on the piece of shit. Thousand bucks says I can get rid of you without being overly rough for it's own sake, before normal race distance is reached and without crashing.

[Shaun Harris]

Come swing on the piece of shit. Thousand bucks says I can get rid of you without being overly rough for it's own sake, before normal race distance is reached and without crashing.




fuked if I would go anywhere near anything you were pretending to be in control of, I have seen you try with 2 wheels and crash ya Brain CELL out and 3 now to help your ballance, which still has not happend

[Drew]

fuked if I would go anywhere near anything you were pretending to be in control of, I have seen you try with 2 wheels and crash ya Brain CELL out and 3 now to help your ballance, which still has not happend

Really? Because one of us has had several trips to hospital after bike crashes, the other has been once after his brakes failed.

Guess you don't have the sack.

[scrivy]

You could buy a 2010 motor off Yoshi Merica with 207hp for $12,500NZ, if you bought direct through them instead of the middleman in Oz apparently it was only $3600US

$3600US is only $4636NZ??
Why $12,500??

[scrivy]

From the top. Cams, valve springs and retainers, valves, injectors, flowed head, slugs, rods, crank (if someone were to be doing it properly but you can get away with a standard one), clutch (the whole lot), selector barrel and shifter star, and oil pump and pickup. Then there's the ECU and loom.
That represents $70k ish on a superbike. I doubt there's a lot on the list that doesn't go into a top chair motor.

I understand the basic go fast goodies, but why the clutch (we haven't put in a single plate or spring in the bus in about 6 seasons, are 1000 ones weaker or not lock up?), also, why the selector barrel and star? I could understand H/D forks, but barrel and star?? What about an increase in fuel pressure??

[scrivy]

Guess you don't have the sack.

Goat balls??

[Shaun Harris]

Really? Because one of us has had several trips to hospital after bike crashes, the other has been once after his brakes failed.

Guess you don't have the sack.




Yep, and some of us have actually won major races also

[Drew]

I understand the basic go fast goodies, but why the clutch (we haven't put in a single plate or spring in the bus in about 6 seasons, are 1000 ones weaker or not lock up?), also, why the selector barrel and star? I could understand H/D forks, but barrel and star?? What about an increase in fuel pressure??
Clutch because the slipper from Yoshi is a comete unit, and adjustable, and really cool. Selector stuff because all that shit is specific to quick shifter.

Fuel pressure is a cheat, bigger injectors and adjustable timing is better.

Yep, and some of us have actually won major races alsoWonder what the odds would be given on you or I ever doing that in the future. Sure as fuck I can't think of anyone who'd bet on either of us.

[nodrog]

Yep, and some of us have actually won major races also

dude its smoko time

http://www.sixeightkafe.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Hasbeanlogo-red.jpeg

[husaberg]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQsezjtCQAIW4sA.jpg:thumb

[Shaun Harris]

Clutch because the slipper from Yoshi is a comete unit, and adjustable, and really cool. Selector stuff because all that shit is specific to quick shifter.

Fuel pressure is a cheat, bigger injectors and adjustable timing is better.
Wonder what the odds would be given on you or I ever doing that in the future. Sure as fuck I can't think of anyone who'd bet on either of us.



I will ask My sponsor for next year what he reckons Drew and get back to ya

[Shaun Harris]

dude its smoko time

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An what an Honour it is to be one after all the work and commitment that went into it for so many years

[Kickaha]

Same way as a solo, measure the sag. Helps to have a basic understanding of what each function of a shock does.
Standard on the shock we run is about 8-9kg, reckon we'll go 11 or 12 to gain the stability I want. But if that kills the pace we can launch at, I'll find a middle ground and get the compression stack stiffened up to all fuck in the middle.
We had one of the top UK guys give our outfit a going over when he was here on holiday a few years back and he reckoned we were pretty well right with what we had, since then both rider and swinger weights have gone down about 20kg per each, launches are the worst bit, wheel spins like a bastard

I understand the basic go fast goodies, but why the clutch (we haven't put in a single plate or spring in the bus in about 6 seasons, are 1000 ones weaker or not lock up?)
We used the same clutch in the K4 for 4 seasons and it wasn't new when we got it

$3600US is only $4636NZ??
Why $12,500??
Because he got tucked by the guy in Oz he got it through and didn't know any better at the time

[nodrog]

We had one of the top UK guys give our outfit a going over when he was here on holiday a few years back and he reckoned we were pretty well right with what we had, since then both rider and swinger weights have gone down about 20kg per each, launches are the worst bit, wheel spins like a bastard

We used the same clutch in the K4 for 4 seasons and it wasn't new when we got it

Because he got tucked by the guy in Oz he got it through and didn't know any better at the time

Fuck me, how fat was dave?

[scrivy]

Because he got tucked by the guy in Oz he got it through and didn't know any better at the time

Ok, at $4600ish, lets buy 2 each.

[scrivy]

You could buy a 2010 motor off Yoshi Merica with 207hp for .... only $3600US

Really??????? That can't be right bro.... the fast bits cost 4 times that alone....

[scrivy]

since then both rider and swinger weights have gone down about 20kg per each, launches are the worst bit, wheel spins like a bastard


Hang on, you used to swing for Dave..... so you BOTH can't have lost 20 kgs......:whistle: maybe your passenger is 20 kgs lighter than you were.....

[Kickaha]

Really??????? That can't be right bro.... the fast bits cost 4 times that alone....

Well the guy who told me has had a few #NZ1 plates on his bikes over the years so I think he should know what he's talking about, if I can come up with 10K I'll have the K9 and K10 motors he has sitting in his shed one of which is full of good bits :2thumbsup

[Kickaha]

Fuck me, how fat was dave?

Didn't you just buy some new leathers because you were too fucking fat to fit your old set?

[Drew]

We had one of the top UK guys give our outfit a going over when he was here on holiday a few years back and he reckoned we were pretty well right with what we had, since then both rider and swinger weights have gone down about 20kg per each, launches are the worst bit, wheel spins like a bastard

20kgs is a shit tonne in terms of the spring to use.


Taking preload out won't cut it on these either with that kind of change.

A soft spring is ooooooober good for leaving the line, but it's not much good for anything else.

[Drew]

Really??????? That can't be right bro.... the fast bits cost 4 times that alone....

They drop in value a touch when a new model is released. You can buy a whole superbike L0 for $11k. Flash suspension in it and all. You get half the money back from selling bits.

[Kickaha]

20kgs is a shit tonne in terms of the spring to use.


Taking preload out won't cut it on these either with that kind of change.

We's already tried reducing preload but didn't really expect it to do bugger all, so I was looking at going one spring rate down in the back to try it once we work out what is actually in there

Alex tried a big change on his going a lot softer in the back and said it handled like crap

[swarfie]

Didn't you just buy some new leathers because you were too fucking fat to fit your old set?

Ha...Gordie too fat??? Christ man he's like a rake handle with the wood shaved off :lol:

[Kickaha]

Ha...Gordie too fat??? Christ man he's like a rake handle with the wood shaved off :lol:

Obviously needs a few decent pies

[scrivy]

Ha...Gordie too fat??? Christ man he's like a rake handle with the wood shaved off :lol:

Teenie says he can't develop 'wood'.............:shutup::facepalm::shit:

[scrivy]

Well the guy who told me has had a few #NZ1 plates on his bikes over the years so I think he should know what he's talking about, if I can come up with 10K I'll have the K9 and K10 motors he has sitting in his shed one of which is full of good bits :2thumbsup

Ok, so now I know where to pinch one from...................;)
I'd love a hot thou. Would take 15 kgs off the busa for a start!!

If they devalue that much, shit, my 1999 busa would be worth $10.50

[scrivy]

Well the guy who told me has had a few #NZ1 plates on his bikes over the years so I think he should know what he's talking about, if I can come up with 10K I'll have the K9 and K10 motors he has sitting in his shed one of which is full of good bits :2thumbsup

Didn't Burt get pinged $5,000 from someone in the US that didn't front up with an engine??

[swarfie]

Teenie says he can't develop 'wood'.............:shutup::facepalm::shit:

Yeah but to be honest he probably shaves it off himself...with his hand:tugger:

[Kickaha]

Ok, so now I know where to pinch one from...................;)
I'd love a hot thou. Would take 15 kgs off the busa for a start!!
Probably as much HP as well, I can put you in touch with the guy if you like

Didn't Burt get pinged $5,000 from someone in the US that didn't front up with an engine??
Some kind of Ebay scam from what I remember

[Bert]

Really great to see the lads take it to the next level.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/10570425/Students-itching-to-test-drive-their-new-wheels

:headbang:

[nodrog]

Really great to see the lads take it to the next level.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/10570425/Students-itching-to-test-drive-their-new-wheels

:headbang:

When are you gunna take it to the next level and race that rig of yours? at the Sheene?

[Bert]

When are you gunna take it to the next level and race that rig of yours? at the Sheene?

When I grow some balls...

Maybe I should get a set of these kids to ride it... most of them are far more capable than I will ever be...

[Drew]

When I grow some balls...

Maybe I should get a set of these kids to ride it... most of them are far more capable than I will ever be...It is a very cool feeling to send someone out on your bike, and to see them improve. As rewarding as riding yourself, but different so the racing buzz isn't quite completely satisfied.

You ride toy bikes though also though, no? So ya might be all good.

[Kickaha]

20kgs is a shit tonne in terms of the spring to use.

Online calculator says our rear spring is about 457 pounds/inch

[Drew]

Online calculator says our rear spring is about 457 pounds/inchConvert that to proper measurements will ya.

[husaberg]

Convert that to proper measurements will ya.

A kilo is 2.205 pounds
an inch is 25.4 mm (All out of my head)

He goes and gets a calculator
457/ 2.205=207.25kg then divide by 25.4 =8.16kg/mm

[Bert]

It is a very cool feeling to send someone out on your bike, and to see them improve. As rewarding as riding yourself, but different so the racing buzz isn't quite completely satisfied.

You ride toy bikes though also though, no? So ya might be all good.

Yes Drew, I love my toy bikes these days.
One day I might dust off the TZ and scare myself shitless as well.

Skinky has been out a few times (almost a decade ago now), we had lots of fun.
But life got all a bit serious and she got pushed to the back of the shed.

[Kickaha]

Convert that to proper measurements will ya.

I would of if the Merkins used real measurements, have to check something cause I might have cocked it up anyway

I'm now thinking compressed length would be when it becomes coil bound not how much suspension travel it's using?

edit: found another site which works it out at and 8.8 rear and the front at a 5.4

[Drew]

I would of if the Merkins used real measurements, have to check something cause I might have cocked it up anyway

I'm now thinking compressed length would be when it becomes coil bound not how much suspension travel it's using?

edit: found another site which works it out at and 8.8 rear and the front at a 5.4
Compressed length is just what it measures when fitted I think.

Right, so the spring is what we just call a 9. An 8 or 8.5 is worth a try.

Get it out and measure the uncompressed length, and the inside diameter of the spring top and bottom. With that info a suspension guy can check to see what he has lying around. In fact, I might have something in the shed.

[Shaun Harris]

Compressed length is just what it measures when fitted I think.

Right, so the spring is what we just call a 9. An 8 or 8.5 is worth a try.

Get it out and measure the uncompressed length, and the inside diameter of the spring top and bottom. With that info a suspension guy can check to see what he has lying around. In fact, I might have something in the shed.

Correct, compressed length is " SET" length and free length is just that. I would send it direct to CKT to have Robert throw in his spring rate checker load machine to make sure it is what you think it is! Often springs rate change radically due to be made from low quality material in the first place

[husaberg]

Correct, compressed length is " SET" length and free length is just that. I would send it direct to CKT to have Robert throw in his spring rate checker load machine to make sure it is what you think it is! Often springs rate change radically due to be made from low quality material in the first place

I think what Shaun means to say is get a bathroom scale and a drill press and measure it yourself:innocent:

[nodrog]

I think what Shaun means to say is get a bathroom scale and a drill press and measure it yourself:innocent:

What part do you drill the hole in?

[husaberg]

What part do you drill the hole in?

303020..............

[Kickaha]

Get it out and measure the uncompressed length, and the inside diameter of the spring top and bottom.

150mm long and 58mm ID, Daves got a box of them at his place, just need a to measure up to see what they are

Wound all the preload out and will check sag when we get it back on the ground

[Drew]

150mm long and 58mm ID, Daves got a box of them at his place, just need a to measure up to see what they are

Would all the preload out and will check sag when we get it back on the ground

Wonder if it has any static sag without rider and passenger. Ours doesn't.

[Kickaha]

Wonder if it has any static sag without rider and passenger. Ours doesn't.

It had none, I don't think I've seen a sidecar yet which has and I haven't once seen it mentioned on other sites discussing suspension setup

[Shaun Harris]

I think what Shaun means to say is get a bathroom scale and a drill press and measure it yourself:innocent:



Haha I said CKT NOT Dukic

One of the MOST important things re your spring rates and suspension set up is Tyre Opperating temp! You all need to find out what is the best Hot temp for them to be operating at ( So you need to but a tyre temp testing gauge simillar to what Robert uses and ADAM UNSWORTH also ( Adam has my old one) and then adjust spring rates and pre loads and tyre pressure to get the tyres working as they are designed to work

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=Kickaha;1130777633]It had none, I don't think I've seen a sidecar yet which has and I haven't once seen it mentioned on other sites discussing suspension setup

Top out messurement V Static Sag is seriously only rellavent to 2 wheel thingies and the way the rider wants the bike to behave on the brakes.

[scrivy]

Wtf? When did we start getting anal about suspension? Bob n me never changed ours. Beat quite a few nice rigs in our time too.... even some that measured their suspension by the 0.5mm....

I think we have the hardest suspension out there, and about 15mm of travel max.
But who used to get into the first corner first?

Sent from my beligerent mobile whilst away from home.....

[Drew]

I want to put top out springs in the front of ours. Pretty sure it will seriously aid in turning right with the power on.

[Drew]

Wtf? When did we start getting anal about suspension? Bob n me never changed ours. Beat quite a few nice rigs in our time too.... even some that measured their suspension by the 0.5mm....

I think we have the hardest suspension out there, and about 15mm of travel max.
But who used to get into the first corner first?

Sent from my beligerent mobile whilst away from home.....

An argument I used to subscribe to. But perhaps you could have continued taking it to everyone if some time got spent on set up, rather than them getting quicker and you two being hard up against the limit.

[peril 787b]

Not now the Windle is going properly it wouldn't be, even with what it'd cost landed it would still be cheap though

What was the fix?

[scrivy]

and you two being hard up....

Nope. Just me....:rolleyes:

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[scrivy]

An argument I used to subscribe to. But perhaps you could have continued taking it to everyone if some time got spent on set up, rather than them getting quicker and you two being hard up against the limit.

I do agree with you Drew, but truth is though, we were never beaten under brakes or outcornered. Only our weight and straight line speed...

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[Shaun Harris]

I want to put top out springs in the front of ours. Pretty sure it will seriously aid in turning right with the power on.




Maybe it will, but really all that is doing is like winding up a stearing damper more rather than fixing the main problem in the first place. With the rest still fukddd up the chair will still top out on the top out springs ( Yes marginally later than it used too) and still understeer or what ever. Wheel base, rear shock action and sag settings and spring rate and correct tyre temp side wheel position etc will FIX more than top out springs ever can. Top outs are critical to road race bikes due to lack of tyre contact patch more than anything, they need to gently top out as such to not cause hysterics with the chassis pitch, and lack off tyre contact is something Chairs never have an issue with

[Kickaha]

But who used to get into the first corner first?
A few different people in the races I watched or took part in

I do agree with you Drew, but truth is though, we were never beaten under brakes or outcornered. Only our weight and straight line speed...
No you weren't, but there got to a time when you weren't beating people under brakes or out cornering them

What was the fix?
Bypassing the fuel relay and getting rid of the stupid quick connect fuel fitting, it did two races with out crapping out with those things done

[Shaun Harris]

I do agree with you Drew, but truth is though, we were never beaten under brakes or outcornered. Only our weight and straight line speed...

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A thou beating your 13 hundi in a streight line eh, never seen that ever dude. You boys did always put on a great show though

[sidecar bob]

A thou beating your 13 hundi in a streight line eh, never seen that ever dude.

We'll then you are a fuckin blind and stupid.
If you never watched a sidecar race, don't make up shit that isn't true to look as if you did.

[Shaun Harris]

We'll then you are a fuckin blind and stupid.
If you never watched a sidecar race, don't make up shit that isn't true to look as if you did.




FUK you dick licker, get back to being the wanker you are. Any more lies to post about people asking for sponsorship from tyre companies etc and getting refused?


Your turn, bla bla bla I was really very fast years ago. but always got beaten by people using legal bikes haha yea write man, you were slow then and that is why you became a swinger, cause you do not have the brain to operate at speed like fast riders can and do, I enjoy your pathetic attacks though, gives me some thing to do whilst I am enjoying my life. You and Scrizy were a good team on track, but off track you are a fuk wit

[Kickaha]

A thou beating your 13 hundi in a streight line eh, never seen that ever dude. You boys did always put on a great show though
He isn't the one that's full of it, those bikes had seriousy quick 1000cc motors, they'd run away from Dave's 1300 with around 200rwhp

We'll then you are a fuckin blind and stupid.
I'm not sure about the blind bit but definitely the stupid is correct

but off track you are a fuk wit
He's a good cunt on and off the track, Scrivy is a dick though

[Drew]

Maybe it will, but really all that is doing is like winding up a stearing damper more rather than fixing the main problem in the first place. With the rest still fukddd up the chair will still top out on the top out springs ( Yes marginally later than it used too) and still understeer or what ever. Wheel base, rear shock action and sag settings and spring rate and correct tyre temp side wheel position etc will FIX more than top out springs ever can. Top outs are critical to road race bikes due to lack of tyre contact patch more than anything, they need to gently top out as such to not cause hysterics with the chassis pitch, and lack off tyre contact is something Chairs never have an issue with
I want a softer top out, because there is little that can be done without huge changes to the chair to FIX the problem. These things are flawed by imbalance, that is hard to fix.

[nodrog]

...... imbalance, that is hard to fix.

Shaun knows that.

[scrivy]

He isn't the one that's full of it, those bikes had seriousy quick 1000cc motors, they'd run away from Dave's 1300 with around 200rwhp


Even chris pyms and jeff browns 1000 shorties were quicker in a straight line than us two years in a row at Eastern Creek. Still beat them in all 8 races. Our weight is our biggest hinderance, not our suspension is all im saying.

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[sidecar bob]

FUK you dick licker, get back to being the wanker you are. Any more lies to post about people asking for sponsorship from tyre companies etc and getting refused?


Your turn, bla bla bla I was really very fast years ago. but always got beaten by people using legal bikes haha yea write man, you were slow then and that is why you became a swinger, cause you do not have the brain to operate at speed like fast riders can and do, I enjoy your pathetic attacks though, gives me some thing to do whilst I am enjoying my life. You and Scrizy were a good team on track, but off track you are a fuk wit

ow, You hurted my feeling.
I dont care abut your rant paticularly, but if you never saw a thou pass our 1300 in a straight line doing about 30kmh faster than ours, then you are full of shit, as we already know.
The sidecar that Aaron Lovell has can do it easily.
Do you really believe that a almost stock 15 year old touring bike engine is quicker than the latest superbike engin ya fuckin genius?
Im quite comfortable with the level that im able to operate a bike at, there are other things I can do quite well that are far more benificial to my life in general.
Im not the least bit concerned by the people that have decided im a fuckwit, & I doubt your Mr Rantyness is going to create any more converts.

[Shaun Harris]

I want a softer top out, because there is little that can be done without huge changes to the chair to FIX the problem. These things are flawed by imbalance, that is hard to fix.



My personell choice for top out springs was always the Longest softest ones so they acted calmly and not aggresively, good luck

[peril 787b]

Bypassing the fuel relay and getting rid of the stupid quick connect fuel fitting, it did two races with out crapping out with those things done

Bypassing the fuel relay? Which relay? The electrical power supply one or the fuel pressure regulator?

The quick disconnect under the tank? That was added after the issues were found, due to the fact we had fuel pouring on the ground every time we disconnected the fuel pump or filter. It's a dual shut-off style out of a Triumph 1050i so shouldn't have caused an issue, especially as it's pre-pump. Or do you mean the OEM one onto the fuel rail?

[nodrog]

..... It's a dual shut-off style out of a Triumph 1050i......

well theres the fuckin problem.

[Drew]

well theres the fuckin problem.Yep, them piles O' shit are nothing but trouble....aye?

[nodrog]

Yep, them piles O' shit are nothing but trouble....aye?

they would make a choice mooring.

[Shaun Harris]

well theres the fuckin problem.


Are they the ones that were part of a massive recall from Triumph

[nodrog]

Are they the ones that were part of a massive recall from Triumph

probably. I think the only thing triumph haven't recalled is the tyres.

[sidecar bob]

Our weight is our biggest hinderance, not our suspension is all im saying.

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Cheers for that. It's only because I have to drink so much Heineken to put up with all you riders.
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[sidecar bob]

My personell choice for top out springs was always the Longest softest ones so they acted calmly and not aggresively, good luck

Can you get ones that are sometimes calm & sometimes aggressive without warning?

[husaberg]

Can you get ones that are sometimes calm & sometimes aggressive without warning?

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[Kickaha]

Our weight is our biggest hinderance
You two fat cunts should go on a diet then


The sidecar that Aaron Lovell has can do it easily.
Not sure if was that one or the one Spike has that was clocked at 280kmh in the flying KM


Bypassing the fuel relay? Which relay? The electrical power supply one or the fuel pressure regulator?

The quick disconnect under the tank? That was added after the issues were found, due to the fact we had fuel pouring on the ground every time we disconnected the fuel pump or filter. It's a dual shut-off style out of a Triumph 1050i so shouldn't have caused an issue, especially as it's pre-pump. Or do you mean the OEM one onto the fuel rail?

Fuck knows, some relay that had power in but no power coming out, pump shit itself as well last meeting

Quick connect under the tank, my dick would flow more than that thing

[scrivy]

You two fat cunts should go on a diet then.

Ive lost 2.5kgs in the last month.... poor pinky will still be struggling though...

[scrivy]

Cheers for that. It's only because I have to drink so much Heineken to put up with all you riders.
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:rolleyes: Geezuz.... I mean from steel, aluminium, wiring, tubing, fibreglass etc.. not from ballsack weight.....:bleh:

[Kickaha]

King of Ruapuna Rd2 21/09/14

The weather was a bit average when we arrived but we got set up and ready to go.

We’d put a new front and rear tyres on to scrub in so we weren’t planning on going that quick in practice and Goober was scrubbing in a new rear tyre in as well, this was all in preparation for the BSTT in October

Alex as usual was telling us he was going to be taking it easy but we’ve seen what his version of easy is before and it differs quite a bit from ours

Practice
We’re taking it easy and Kai/Ella blast on past us, a couple of laps in and so does Goober/Matt so we up the pace a bit and stick with him
About 3 laps in and we spot Kai/Ella off the side of the track near pothole with the motor having stopped on them

Grid positions up and Goober/Matt on P1, Alex/Andy P2, Me and Will P3, Kai/Ella P4 and Phil/Stephen P5

Kai/Ella get towed in and immediately go to work on the bike, it’s got power but no action from the fuel pump, I get my spare pump and hooked up it doesn’t go either, power feed into the relay has power in but no power out so a quick bypass and his pump isn’t working but my spare one is, a toggle switch goes into it so the pump can be shut off and it fires up and Kai/Ella are good to go

Race 1
Kai/Ella get a flyer into T1 and as I get alongside and look at having a try riding around him having passed Goober/Matt off on the run down into T1 I’m thinking I really should repossess my fuel pump

Down into pothole and I think about an inside pass when Goober/Matt does exactly that, it blocks me in behind Kai/Ella and then Alex/Matt go up the inside of Goober/Matt into the hairpin
Not wanting to be left out of all the fun I go around the outside of Kai/Ella knowing if I get held up I won’t be able to stick with Alex/Andy and Goober/Matt

I see a flash of grey out of the corner of my eye and think Kai/Ella are going to T bone us but they just give Will a bit of a hit and we carry on, unknown to us Ella gets spat off the side when they hit us and owes even more beer

We push as hard as we can but can’t close the gap on Goober/Matt although in the last few laps we’re both closing the gap on Alex/Andy, but he keeps enough in reserve to run home first with Goober/Matt second and Me and Will 3rd, Phil/Steve 4th and Kai/Ella finishing 5th after Ella climbs back on after her tumble

Race 2
Alex/Andy decide to start off the back and Kai is taking the launch a bit easier, probably thinking if he throws Ella down the track to many more time he’ll have to make his own breakfast and find a new passenger

We get a good run down into T1 and go around Goober/Matt, through pothole and then and then Alex/Andy pass both of us
Goober/Matt make the pass on us into the hairpin

We get a good run off the hairpin and go straight back under them into the next right and lead them around the infield sweeper where they get a run into the next right and we chase them around onto the front straight

Down the front straight and we pull out and pass, hooking into T1 fairly hard I just about run into the back of Alex/Andy, Andy looks around gives us the finger and then they accelerate away

Still right behind Alex/Andy onto the straight and pull out and pass, it’s not too long before they go back past us and try as we might we can’t get them back

I can see Goober/Matt out of the corner of my eye at the hairpin so know we have a bit of a gap and that’s the order we finish in

Race 3
We get the call up to the grid but there a 3 bike accident when a bike highsides in T1 and the meeting is cancelled

That aside an excellent day out with some great dicing between us, Kai seems to have his Sidecar sorted and now just needs to stop tossing Ella down the track and start picking up a bit of speed
Phil and Steve coming along nicely as well looking better each meeting and hopefully a couple more on the grid next time out

Thanks to:
Jason and Michelle Bishop @ Sourced - http://sourced.kiwi/
Joanne van der Westhuizen @ Career Success - http://www.careersuccess.co.nz/
Chrissie Whitfield @ WF consulting - http://wfconsulting.co.nz/
Warren Watty RPM Painters & Decorators

Also a special thanks to Joanne van der Westhuizen, Sidecar owner and Team manager for all the time and effort she puts in

[scrivy]

Phil and Steve coming along nicely as well looking better each meeting and hopefully a couple more on the grid next time out

So has the Agip bike gotten its steering problems sorted?

[peril 787b]

Fuck knows, some relay that had power in but no power coming out, pump shit itself as well last meeting

Quick connect under the tank, my dick would flow more than that thing

That would be the tip over switch, factory fitting in the two wheeler that stops the pump should it end upside down. It ought to be glued /siliconed up inside (as in a sidecar the forces acting upon it are different).

Strange that the quick connect has crapped out, you know it needs the connection in to flow? Not that it's an issue now that it's no longer in place.

[nodrog]

I think Ella needs a tip over switch

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=peril 787b;1130778236]That would be the tip over switch, factory fitting in the two wheeler that stops the pump should it end upside down. It ought to be glued /siliconed up inside (as in a sidecar the forces acting upon it are different).


I would imagine the tip over sensor NOT SYLICONED UP as you suggest to be useless on a Chair from my experience on one with all the motion they have that bikes do not have

[Drew]

We just took the pendulum out of ours.

[Shaun Harris]

We just took the pendulum out of ours.



shit, u do actually have a brain, or borrowed a good one from some where

[peril 787b]

I would imagine the tip over sensor NOT SYLICONED UP as you suggest to be useless on a Chair from my experience on one with all the motion they have that bikes do not have

Shut up Shaun, it needs to be stopped from swinging as the centripetal force acting upon a sidecar (as it does not lean over) makes the switch cut the power to the fuel pump.
If you actually read what I posted, I had said IT OUGHT TO BE GLUED UP, so your post was, as usual, totally unnecessary.

[Shaun Harris]

Shut up Shaun, it needs to be stopped from swinging as the centripetal force acting upon a sidecar (as it does not lean over) makes the switch cut the power to the fuel pump.
If you actually read what I posted, I had said IT OUGHT TO BE GLUED UP, so your post was, as usual, totally unnecessary.




fuk you also, I totally agreed with you fool

[peril 787b]

How have you not yet realized that NO-ONE appreciates your input?

[Shaun Harris]

How have you not yet realized that NO-ONE appreciates your input?



Have you and them not realised that I do not give a fuk man, and this is all about filling in time for me

[sidecar bob]

I think Ella needs a tip over switch

She already has one, it just has'nt been glued up properly.

[Kickaha]

That would be the tip over switch, factory fitting in the two wheeler that stops the pump should it end upside down. It ought to be glued /siliconed up inside (as in a sidecar the forces acting upon it are different).

Strange that the quick connect has crapped out, you know it needs the connection in to flow? Not that it's an issue now that it's no longer in place.

It isn't the tip over switch, that's already been checked

Quick connect was plugged in when Kai tested the flow, he took the hose off somewhere downstream of it

[scrivy]

She already has one, it just has'nt been glued up properly.

I heard Kai hasn't 'plugged it in' lately....... :shutup::facepalm:

[Kickaha]

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[Grumph]

That one appears to have enough tank capacity to do a complete NZ season....And while it looks good, leaving the frame bare probably means polishing it weekly to stay in front of the rust.
And don't tell me it's clear coated as I can point to a couple of frames here which are visibly rusting under the clear....

[Drew]

That one appears to have enough tank capacity to do a complete NZ season....And while it looks good, leaving the frame bare probably means polishing it weekly to stay in front of the rust.
And don't tell me it's clear coated as I can point to a couple of frames here which are visibly rusting under the clear....

The reason for bare steel is because it has to be like that for inspection. You're not allowed a painted frame.

[sidecar bob]

That one appears to have enough tank capacity to do a complete NZ season....And while it looks good, leaving the frame bare probably means polishing it weekly to stay in front of the rust.
And don't tell me it's clear coated as I can point to a couple of frames here which are visibly rusting under the clear....

Pink bike's frame has never been painted. We scrub it with scotcbrite's & spray it with longlife.
Probably sounds like a mission, but isn't really seeing as I've never done it myself.
Pinky is an ex I.o.m winner.
It's constructed from hydraulic tubing.

[nodrog]

The reason for bare steel is because it has to be like that for inspection. You're not allowed a painted frame.

You are allowed powder coating though.

[old rig]

You are allowed powder coating though.

i saw lots of painted frames at the tt this year or power coated
do they power coat them as it is stronger than painting

[nodrog]

i saw lots of painted frames at the tt this year or power coated
do they power coat them as it is stronger than painting

They will be powder coated. You can order your chair powder coated straight from Louis

[scrivy]

They will be powder coated. You can order your chair powder coated straight from Louis
WTF????

Since when did my son start making chairs????:scratch::scratch::scratch:

[old rig]

WTF????

Since when did my son start making chairs????:scratch::scratch::scratch:

about the same time your daughter started swinging

[scrivy]

about the same time your daughter started swinging
She had her first swing on a chair at 2!

[haydes55]

She had her first swing on a chair at 2!


Yea but how old was she when she started swinging?

[scrivy]

Yea but how old was she when she started swinging?

Ok, she just turned 13, 4 days ago, so I've called the Police to come and get your paedophile ass.....

:bleh::bleh::laugh:

[Steve-e]

The chassis are usually left unpainted or powder coated as you can spot the cracks as soon as they start to appear.

The rules don't say they have to be clear but if you're stripping the bike down between every meeting it's not going to go rusty. Powder coating is OK but you won't see the smaller cracks as soon as they start and then by the time they've got bigger you've got a proper job on your hands getting the coating off before fixing shit back up.

[Shaun Harris]

The chassis are usually left unpainted or powder coated as you can spot the cracks as soon as they start to appear.

The rules don't say they have to be clear but if you're stripping the bike down between every meeting it's not going to go rusty. Powder coating is OK but you won't see the smaller cracks as soon as they start and then by the time they've got bigger you've got a proper job on your hands getting the coating off before fixing shit back up.



Logic from the BOSS

[scrivy]

The chassis are usually left unpainted or powder coated as you can spot the cracks as soon as they start to appear.

The rules don't say they have to be clear but if you're stripping the bike down between every meeting it's not going to go rusty. Powder coating is OK but you won't see the smaller cracks as soon as they start and then by the time they've got bigger you've got a proper job on your hands getting the coating off before fixing shit back up.

WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW..... :shutup::facepalm::shifty::weird::dodge::lol:

[nodrog]

You guys Must be rough, I've never cracked a sidecar.

[old rig]

You guys Must be rough, I've never cracked a sidecar.

keep trying you get there one day

[scrivy]

You guys Must be rough, I've never cracked a sidecar.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl:

[Drew]

You guys Must be rough, I've never cracked a sidecar.

You don't count pistons, rods or cranks?

[nodrog]

You don't count pistons, rods or cranks?

Ive never cracked any of those either, scrivy did the pistons and crank and timing gear.

[scrivy]

Ive never cracked any of those either, scrivy did the pistons and crank and timing gear.
...and head stock....


Shows you I ride it to the limit..... you're too soft to thrash it...... :zzzz::zzzz::whistle::whistle:
You should advertise that you do Sunday ticky tours..... might get some oldies wanting a slow putt around...... :devil2:

Wanna root?

[Grumph]

The chassis are usually left unpainted or powder coated as you can spot the cracks as soon as they start to appear.

The rules don't say they have to be clear but if you're stripping the bike down between every meeting it's not going to go rusty. Powder coating is OK but you won't see the smaller cracks as soon as they start and then by the time they've got bigger you've got a proper job on your hands getting the coating off before fixing shit back up.

Fine as far as it goes but I won't use powder on the (solo) frames I build. i've seen too many bruised patches of powdercoat which have allowed water underneath. Looks OK on top, but.....i do most in baked enamel now or if the customer wants, nickel plate.
i suspect that in NZ most chairs will sit for longer between meetings than in the UK - and possibly get less maintenance too. If you're building a tube frame and worried about cracking, set it up with the appropriate valve etc to hold air pressure in the tubing. Makes cracks easy to find too.

[Kickaha]

The chassis are usually left unpainted or powder coated as you can spot the cracks as soon as they start to appear.

The rules don't say they have to be clear but if you're stripping the bike down between every meeting it's not going to go rusty. Powder coating is OK but you won't see the smaller cracks as soon as they start and then by the time they've got bigger you've got a proper job on your hands getting the coating off before fixing shit back up.


Welcome aboard Steve, when are you and Jo popping over ? ;)

Stripping the bike down between meetings? you'd be lucky if it's done between seasons

[sidecar bob]

Stripping the bike down between meetings? you'd be lucky if it's done between seasons

Us fullas with proper sidecars with the motor at the right end do.

[Kickaha]

Us fullas with proper sidecars with the motor at the right end do.

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[Drew]

Eeewwww, cross plane R1 would be a God awful motor in a chair I think. Most horrible motor I've had the displeasure of riding.

[Kickaha]

Eeewwww, cross plane R1 would be a God awful motor in a chair I think. Most horrible motor I've had the displeasure of riding.

Get one with a BMW instead then

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[Steve-e]

:jerry:
Eeewwww, cross plane R1 would be a God awful motor in a chair I think. Most horrible motor I've had the displeasure of riding.


Couple of guys here tried. Simon Gilbert had a go with it and it just didn't work right in an outfit. Think that's the one Rod Robinson uses now at the brits.

[Drew]

:jerry:


Couple of guys here tried. Simon Gilbert had a go with it and it just didn't work right in an outfit. Think that's the one Rod Robinson uses now at the brits.

Not a surprise. They're snatchy, and love to step a back wheel out as soon as ya look at the throttle. How Spies rode the Superbike I'll never understand...much the same way Milandri struggled with the concept I imagine.

[Kyler]

... but if you're stripping the bike down between every meeting ...

from what I've read in this thread, the only stripping the Kiwis do between meetings involves goats or each other :wacko:

Just sayin' ...:bye:


:killingme

[Kickaha]

from what I've read in this thread, the only stripping the Kiwis do between meetings involves goats or each other

Only the guys in the North Island, we have a lot higher standards in the South

[scrivy]

Hmmmm.... not just sidecars having brake problems......

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/10606367/Lowndes-Luff-crash-in-Bathurst-practice

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-2547378/Lewis-Hamilton-crashes-day-turbo-charged-testing-ahead-new-F1-season.html

[Kickaha]

Hmmmm.... not just sidecars having brake problems......

Only sidecar I've been on with brake problems was when I raced with Murray Bowden at Ruapuna about 2003 on the bike Alex has now

Good pads, decent brake fluid and replace it each season as a minimum, and so long as a torque arm doesn't break or something you'll be sweet

[Kyler]

I just saw this on Google Play and immediately thought of the Northern Island guys ... according to Kickaha ...

Goat Simulator
Goat Simulator (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coffeestainstudios.goatsimulator)is the latest in goat simulation technology, bringing next-gen goat simulation to YOU. You no longer have to fantasize about being a goat.

[scrivy]

Good pads, decent brake fluid and replace it each season as a minimum, and so long as a torque arm doesn't break or something you'll be sweet

My post above alludes to other classes having gear failure too, rather than regular maintenance.
I put in all new pads, and fluids and even caliper and master cylinder seals.... so pretty much everything. Still had gear failure like the best classes in the world...

Sent from my.... oh you know by now...

[scrivy]

Good pads, decent brake fluid and replace it each season as a minimum, and so long as a torque arm doesn't break or something you'll be sweet

My post above alludes to other classes having gear failure too, rather than regular maintenance.
I put in all new pads, and fluids and even caliper and master cylinder seals.... so pretty much everything, even have everything lockwired too. Still had gear failure like the best classes in the world...

Sent from my.... oh you know by now...

[scrivy]

Good pads, decent brake fluid and replace it each season as a minimum, and so long as a torque arm doesn't break or something you'll be sweet

My post above alludes to other classes having gear failure too, rather than regular maintenance.
I put in all new pads, and fluids and even caliper and master cylinder seals.... so pretty much everything, even have everything lockwired too. Still had gear failure like the best classes in the world...

Sent from my.... oh you know by now...

[Kickaha]

My post above alludes to other classes having gear failure too, rather than regular maintenance.
I put in all new pads, and fluids and even caliper and master cylinder seals.... so pretty much everything. Still had gear failure like the best classes in the world...

Sent from my.... oh you know by now...


My post above alludes to other classes having gear failure too, rather than regular maintenance.
I put in all new pads, and fluids and even caliper and master cylinder seals.... so pretty much everything, even have everything lockwired too. Still had gear failure like the best classes in the world...

Sent from my.... oh you know by now...


My post above alludes to other classes having gear failure too, rather than regular maintenance.
I put in all new pads, and fluids and even caliper and master cylinder seals.... so pretty much everything, even have everything lockwired too. Still had gear failure like the best classes in the world...

Sent from my.... oh you know by now...

Is your Tourette's playing up?

If you do regular maintainence the chances of a falure reduce considerably, for many people brakes aren't something that gets looked at until they need to change pads or there's a problem

[scrivy]

Is your Tourette's playing up?


Fucken tapatalk.....

Sent from my XT535 using Tapatalk 2

[scrivy]

If you do regular maintainence the chances of a falure reduce considerably

Yip.
But even top F1 and V8 teams have brake gear failure....

[kiwi cowboy]

only the guys in the north island, we have a lot higher standards in the south

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Kickaha]

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Except for the odd guy down in central who'd rather have a sheep simulator or more likely he'd just go and get one from the paddock

[kiwi cowboy]

Except for the odd guy down in central who'd rather have a sheep simulator or more likely he'd just go and get one from the paddock

Lambing at the moment:yes:none looking like me yet:sweatdrop:sweatdrop:sweatdrop:sweatdrop:sweatd rop:sweatdrop

[husaberg]

Lambing at the moment:yes:none looking like me yet:sweatdrop:sweatdrop:sweatdrop:sweatdrop:sweatd rop:sweatdrop

could be cause of that vasectomy though:lol:

[kiwi cowboy]

could be cause of that vasectomy though:lol:

may be it failed (always a worry):cool:;)

[old rig]

Only the guys in the North Island, we have a lot higher standards in the South

do you call sheep higher standards i thought you guys can't be bothered to catch a goat as there are more sheep down you way(bedroom) lol

[kiwi cowboy]

do you call sheep higher standards i thought you guys can't be bothered to catch a goat as there are more sheep down you way(bedroom) lol

Fuck me (not literaly) depending on where you go these days you would be hard pressed to find a bloody sheep:angry:bloody dairy cockies:shutup::shutup::shutup::shutup::shutup::sh utup::shutup::shutup:

[Drew]

Fuck me (not literaly) depending on where you go these days you would be hard pressed to find a bloody sheep:angry:bloody dairy cockies:shutup::shutup::shutup::shutup::shutup::sh utup::shutup::shutup:
Soooo, based on rarity alone they would be considered a step above goats?