Sidecar Racing

[Fast Eddie]

haha i like ur quote at the bottom Drew..

have to say i like long chairs tho..

but love short chairs too..

can't we all just get a long

(tee hee)

[Drew]

its a funny looking bike.. engine at the rear eh? but looks quite short stilll...

Only LCRs I've seen up close and naked were Steve Bron's ones. They were much newer than this one I think which might explain the funny body work, but I know fuck all about it all. It's definitely a long chair though.

[Tony.OK]

I've riden that second one mate. It's SIIIIICCCCKKKK. Not really into the long chair, be better for a swinger of advancing years such as yourself though.

Ya cheeky coont! Actually I studied the pics and for the life of me I can't see the passengers seat? Ya wouldn't expect a 40 y/o too bloody kneel would ya?

[Fast Eddie]

i don't think thats an LCR..

thought it would be a Kiwi built machine..

wouldnt mind a DMR short bike actually ;) 1000cc powerplant tho

[Drew]

Ya cheeky coont! Actually I studied the pics and for the life of me I can't see the passengers seat? Ya wouldn't expect a 40 y/o too bloody kneel would ya?Small black tray rear left. On a long chair your on your arse more than a short chair i think. I do the ridey ridey bit, not the climbing around bit so I could be wrong. I'm a NOOOB.


i don't think thats an LCR..

thought it would be a Kiwi built machine..

wouldnt mind a DMR short bike actually ;) 1000cc powerplant thoI'm sticking with LCR till one of these dudes who actually have a clue makes me look stupid.

Take that Windle short for a hoon. You won't wanna get back on your beast.

[Tony.OK]

Small black tray rear left. On a long chair your on your arse more than a short chair i think. I do the ridey ridey bit, not the climbing around bit so I could be wrong. I'm a NOOOB.

I'm sticking with LCR till one of these dudes who actually have a clue makes me look stupid.

Take that Windle short for a hoon. You won't wanna get back on your beast.

Was more looking for something like this to sit in and be chauffered around :yes:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-40_9daW4dkI/TzJIpa1OQJI/AAAAAAAAASY/c-kqSo9bW0Y/s1600/comfy_chair.jpg

[Fast Eddie]

Take that Windle short for a hoon. You won't wanna get back on your beast.

I've txt speedway grant several times and emailed now expressing my interest in borrowing his bike for some test laps etc..

not a single reply

I don't think he likes me, I was joking about putting carbs on a fuel inj motor..

oh well

[Drew]

Was more looking for something like this to sit in and be chauffered around :yes:
What happened to you and Darryn getting into the game?

[Tony.OK]

What happened to you and Darryn getting into the game?

Only briefly talked about it, both wanted to be swingers hahaa. There's really not enough going on to warrant having that outlay sitting around for me to be honest. And you know me mate..............first sign of pain or panic and I'd be selling everything again hahaaa, def not hard enough to mix with chair skidders hehee.

[Drew]

Only briefly talked about it, both wanted to be swingers hahaa. There's really not enough going on to warrant having that outlay sitting around for me to be honest. And you know me mate..............first sign of pain or panic and I'd be selling everything again hahaaa, def not hard enough to mix with chair skidders hehee.

You should check out the average age of them man, you've got youth on your side!

[sidecar bob]

i don't think thats an LCR..

thought it would be a Kiwi built machhine

The yellow one is a Chivas built chassis (Aussie) its a monocoque short rear engined outfit. Hope that clears up any confusion.

[scrivy]

You should check out the average age of them man, you've got youth on your side!

You cheeky coont!!!! The older I get, the faster I am!!;)

[scrivy]

The yellow one is a Chivas built chassis (Aussie) its a monocoque short rear engined outfit. Hope that clears up any confusion.

Didn't it get a second at Hampton Downs last year?

[Kickaha]

and the boys will take care of her!
Sometimes you say the dumbest things :facepalm:


Oh, Bobs BMW might need a passenger......... Either piloted by me or Gordy...... Or even Bob - (that'll be a slower ride.....)
It's fucken easy to swing on....... not like the 1300!
That sounds more like me, I'll just go pack my gear

Only LCRs I've seen up close and naked were Steve Bron's ones. They were much newer than this one I think which might explain the funny body work, but I know fuck all about it all. It's definitely a long chair though.
More of a mid sized chair, very quick with the right rider too

[sidecar bob]

Didn't it get a second at Hampton Downs last year?

Not sure it did.
Chivo had a lot of sucess on it when it was new. Id guess its about 12 years old now.
Its a very clever chassis with great weight distribution.
I seriously pondered getting it for Tracey a while back, & we spent a morning going over it, but she loves her 600 too much to change.
It really needs a Gordy to tidy it right up.

[Kickaha]

Not sure it did.
Chivo had a lot of sucess on it when it was new. Id guess its about 12 years old now.
Its a very clever chassis with great weight distribution.
I seriously pondered getting it for Tracey a while back, but she loves her 600 too much to change.

I thought Chivo had a lap record at Wangas on it at one stage?

Mick wasn't ever that quick on it

[sidecar bob]

That sounds more like me, I'll just go pack my gear


Are you a starter for that?

[Kickaha]

Are you a starter for that?
Fuck yes, I've been trying to scrounge a ride on something since I decided to head up to this

[sidecar bob]

I thought Chivo had a lap record at Wangas on it at one stage?

Mick wasn't ever that quick on it

Yeah, Chivo had Traceys brother on the side there at one point.
Mick didnt go too bad from memory, but of course Chivo is the Peter Brock of sidecar racing, except he's not dead, so he is a toughie to compare too.

[sidecar bob]

Fuck yes, I've been trying to scrounge a ride on something since I decided to head up to this

Ok, mum always said I had to share my toys. Fight amongst yourselves as too who is riding, (no, not you Drew, because first I have to swing with a new rider) & let me know.
You only get to choose from Gordy or Scrivy, or you can import Neville Mickleson from Aussie at your expense. I dont have a favourite, theyre all one as good as the other.

[scrivy]

You only get to choose from Gordy or Scrivy, or you can import Neville Mickleson from Aussie at your expense. I dont have a favourite, theyre all one as good as the other.

Well fuck you!!!!! Gordys done 2 meetings on it, and he's as good as me??? You can go and get fucked!!! :ar15:
You swing for Gordy, I'll take the second best swinger in NZ on the 1300!
Kick, you've got a ride big boy!! :woohoo:

[scrivy]

Are you a starter for that?

Seriously, the above post was a piss take!!
Kick really is the best swinger in NZ!!!! :facepalm:



Nah................. That was taking the piss................... :bleh::laugh:

Actually, Bob, you ride the BMW, and Kick can swing on it. Seriously!
All the modern racers can watch you for a change.

You'll both have truck loads of fun!!
And we'll all get to drink lots of piss afterwards......................

[Drew]

(no, not you Drew, because first I have to swing with a new rider)
Weeeeeeeee, these things go sideways real...Oh fuck. Sorry man.

Yeah, I get it.

[scrivy]

Yeah, I get it.

..........and people told me you are dense.......... :shifty:

I knew they were wrong! :shutup:

[Drew]

..........and people told me you are dense.......... :shifty:

I knew they were wrong! :shutup:

Medium
Density
Fuckwit

That's me mate.

[Kickaha]

Actually, Bob, you ride the BMW, and Kick can swing on it. Seriously!
All the modern racers can watch you for a change.

You'll both have truck loads of fun!!
And we'll all get to drink lots of piss afterwards......................
Fuck yeah I'm in for that, cept for shouting the piss bit

Well fuck you!!!!! Gordys done 2 meetings on it, and he's as good as me???
Well if you can do it how hard can it really be?

Medium
Density
Fuckwit
That's me mate.
You're selling yourself short, you're a lot more than a medium

Ok if someones doing the entry for the BMW put my name down licence #10818, and I'll flick you some money for the entry, fuel etc

did I tell you I'm a slow learner,fat, unfit and unco

[Drew]

did I tell you I'm a slow learner,fat, unfit and uncoThey knew.

[scrivy]

did I tell you I'm a slow learner,fat, unfit and unco

Yes, you did tell us you're a slow learner,fat, unfit and unco :bleh:

oops............ didn't mean to shout!!!! :love:

[Fast Eddie]

Fuck yes, I've been trying to scrounge a ride on something since I decided to head up to this
wicked! glad ya got a ride for the weekend!

Sometimes you say the dumbest things :facepalm:


hahaha i choose my words carefully to allow for various interpretations

[Fast Eddie]

The yellow one is a Chivas built chassis (Aussie) its a monocoque short rear engined outfit. Hope that clears up any confusion.

yea, i knew it wasnt an lcr... i spend too much time on stevesplace..

and looked a bit short to be a long bike.

[sidecar bob]

Well fuck you!!!!! Gordys done 2 meetings on it, and he's as good as me??? You can go and get fucked!!! :ar15:
You swing for Gordy, I'll take the second best swinger in NZ on the 1300!
Kick, you've got a ride big boy!! :woohoo:

Wahahaha, that got your attention!!! You are both similarly easy on the gear, so I dont mind who uses it.

[nodrog]

Actually, Bob, you ride the BMW, and Kick can swing on it. Seriously!
All the modern racers can watch you for a change.......................

its been done before............

nek miniut!

[Drew]

I still reckon we need to start calling Scrivy, Sidecar Neil.

I'm quite confident those two Neil and Bob quite often.

[scrivy]

its been done before............

nek miniut!

Pee hee hee.............
There's no way I'd swing for Bob..................... :no:

Shit, and I used to trust sitting on the back of his Katana at 230 kms...................... :facepalm:


Neil.

[Fast Eddie]

I'll take the second best swinger in NZ on the 1300!
Kick, you've got a ride big boy!! :woohoo:

haha mean, is your beast a 1300? fancy chassis? its not still the one you crashed into the hay bales back in the 80's is it :D

[Drew]

fancy chassis?Hahahahaha, wait till you see how flash it is.

Got a nice airbox though.

[Kickaha]

haha mean, is your beast a 1300? fancy chassis? its not still the one you crashed into the hay bales back in the 80's is it :D

You had to fucking ask didn't you? next he'll be on here dribbling on about his "post classic" :drool:

[sidecar bob]

haha mean, is your beast a 1300? fancy chassis? its not still the one you crashed into the hay bales back in the 80's is it :D

Its a 23 year old, metal pipe, porteous chassis short bike.
Its truly nothing flash at all, & Im fucked if I know how anyone could ride it fast enough to come last most of the time. let alone actually be competitive.

[Drew]

Im fucked if I know how anyone could ride it fast enough to come last most of the time. let alone actually be competitive.

Even I know the answer to that. After half a lap on th eside it becomes quite clear, and flies in the face of the single thing every other chair rider tells you about riding.

More MONGREL!!! Smooth is fast, pfft.

[Fast Eddie]

yea can't wait to be part of a grid of more than 3 bikes :D

Biketranz called, pick up scheduled for this thursday, let ya know how it goes.

stickers arent on it yet, might get a chance to shoot up to chch on the fireblade and stick em on before thurs.

hadn't quite finished welding up the exhaust yet either hopefully the swinger gets that done today/tomorrow or something.

will post up when its on the truck heading to the north island

[sidecar bob]

Hey Kick, have you & Gordy got your heads together for Hamton Downs on the BMW?
Shes all serviced & ready to go, mainly thanks to Gordy for doing it & Jayracer for spectating.

[scrivy]

Hey Kick, have you & Gordy got your heads together for Hamton Downs on the BMW?
Shes all serviced & ready to go, mainly thanks to Gordy for doing it & Jayracer for spectating.

Whats this 'it' that Gordys been doing?? Sounds suspect to me......
Actually, Jayracer spectating Gordy doing 'it' - that's even more dodgy!! :shutup:

Got a video of it????? :woohoo:

[scrivy]

Finally got the 1300 ready last night. :Punk:
After months in the off season, I've finally managed to charge the battery! :yawn:

Bob, should I check the tyre pressures now, or do it at Hamster Downs syndrome? What if I do them now up to 30 PSI? Is that alright?? It'll be more fun for Hamsters if they stayed at that pressure! :facepalm:

[scrivy]

Shes all serviced & ready to go, mainly thanks to Gordy for doing it...

I heard thats the only thing Gordys 'serviced' recently since he's been working on his sidecar........ :love::shifty::shutup:

[scrivy]

hadn't quite finished welding up the exhaust yet either hopefully the swinger gets that done today/tomorrow or something.


Don't sweat if ya don't get ya exhaust welded up. Bob has just txt me saying he'll do it for ya if you can't do it in time!!
How f@cken good is that! LEGEND!!

Now, you just worry about getting up here!

[sidecar bob]

Don't sweat if ya don't get ya exhaust welded up. Bob has just txt me saying he'll do it for ya if you can't do it in time!!
How f@cken good is that! LEGEND!!

Now, you just worry about getting up here!

Yep, I TXT rapid edward the same thing.

[Fast Eddie]

Don't sweat if ya don't get ya exhaust welded up. Bob has just txt me saying he'll do it for ya if you can't do it in time!!
How f@cken good is that! LEGEND!!

Now, you just worry about getting up here!

Chur - yea thats awesome, I was gonna hop on the old fireblade and fire up to chch and back over night between uni days to get it finished but might just leave it for you guys :D hahaha cheers! shes a pretty rugged exhaust (not my fault) few holes/leaks and one of the header pipes has snapped clean in half (cyl 2 i think if you go 1-4 left to right looking at engine front on) I tacked up the one that snapped in half.. but didn't finish it cause had to come back to dunners yesterday night for uni.

Yip will buy plane tickets next week (thats the plan) should arrive either night of the 19th or early morn of the 20th. and leave monday 22nd late at night or early morn tuesday (arrive/leave from Auckland)


Yep, I TXT rapid edward the same thing.

yessum, cheers! should be 3 wet wheels strapped to sidechair and a spare rear slick. Will carry my leathers/helmet as luggage on plane.. and umm.. hope to borrow other peoples tools at HD and Cem Circuit (promise i wont nick em)

[nodrog]

Got a video of it????? :woohoo:

yep, it involves 3 men, a dark tight hole, 2 womens weeklys, the listener, and cosmopolitan magazine, and heaps of grunting.


I heard thats the only thing Gordys 'serviced' recently since he's been working on his sidecar........ :love::shifty::shutup:

I accidently wrote on your fairings yesterday, sorry.


Yep, I TXT rapid edward the same thing.

should we wait to see if the beemer is going to fall in half first?


...should be 3 wet wheels strapped to sidechair and a spare rear slick.....

what size and stud pattern are they? :eek:

[Fast Eddie]

what size and stud pattern are they? :eek:

13" and 4 stud but dunno pattern, each ones different. Good old Mo Haley.

hands off I'll need them back down here in the south. rains a bit. its raining right now

[sidecar bob]

We discovered how many sidecar racers it takes to change a light bulb last night.
The answer is four. We may have pics to follow.

[Kickaha]

what size and stud pattern are they? :eek:

Wont fit your one and they're steel wheels not alloy like yours, you might be able to use the tyres off them though

[Fast Eddie]

they're steel wheels not alloy like yours

well la dee da, alloys huh.

I'll have you know there is 1 alloy on my bike, the front slick is an alloy (I think) its much lighter than all the other rims I have.

there is a lovely tri spoke steel wheel in my spares collection..

[jellywrestler]

cyl 2 i think if you go 1-4 left to right looking at engine front on
try again in English, sitting on the bike cylinder one is on the left and four on the right

[wildman]

Chur - yea thats awesome, I was gonna hop on the old fireblade and fire up to chch and back over night between uni days to get it finished but might just leave it for you guys :D hahaha cheers! shes a pretty rugged exhaust (not my fault) few holes/leaks and one of the header pipes has snapped clean in half (cyl 2 i think if you go 1-4 left to right looking at engine front on) I tacked up the one that snapped in half.. but didn't finish it cause had to come back to dunners yesterday night for uni.

Yip will buy plane tickets next week (thats the plan) should arrive either night of the 19th or early morn of the 20th. and leave monday 22nd late at night or early morn tuesday (arrive/leave from Auckland)



yessum, cheers! should be 3 wet wheels strapped to sidechair and a spare rear slick. Will carry my leathers/helmet as luggage on plane.. and umm.. hope to borrow other peoples tools at HD and Cem Circuit (promise i wont nick em)

When you've got your tickets sorted let me know times and dates your arriving and leaving as i'm only a couple of minutes from airport. Will have plenty of tools in van and my mate in Drury has got welders and fabricating gear if you need it during the weekend.

[scrivy]

Just had a pxt and phonecall from Glen Murray in Aussie.
He brought the ex Dowman sidecar minus the engine. Transplanted a GS1000 (stocker) in it, and won first time out on it over in WA in period 5 class. Had his young son on it - was his first time also!

Fuken LEGEND!!

[scrivy]

try again in English, sitting on the bike cylinder one is on the left and four on the right

Was plain as day!!
Its the second cylinder from the right or the third from the left when sitting on the rig. So that would make it cylinder 4.... :facepalm:

[scrivy]

.. and umm.. hope to borrow other peoples tools at HD and Cem Circuit (promise i wont nick em)

No worries, my tools are sluts...........................

Actually, that's probably why Bob keeps hanging around my pit...................... <_<

[Kickaha]

Hey Kick, have you & Gordy got your heads together for Hamton Downs on the BMW?
I sent him a pm to see if he wants me to buy him a pie or something

Actually, that's probably why Bob keeps hanging around my pit...................... <_<
I thought that was because you are a slut

Pretty sure it was cylinder 3 on Beakers (slow as all fuck eddies)outfit

[Fast Eddie]

lol if you sit on the bike its 2nd cyl from the right.

But you're retarded if you're trying to weld while sitting on the bike.

So when you're infront of it, facing the exhaust manifolds, it's second in from the left.

[Kickaha]

lol if you sit on the bike its 2nd cyl from the right.

but you're retarded if your trying to weld while sitting on the bike.

so when your infront of it, facing the exhaust manifolds. its second in from the left.

NUMBER FUCKING THREE you knobend, you sure you're not related to the Captain?

[Fast Eddie]

When you've got your tickets sorted let me know times and dates your arriving and leaving as i'm only a couple of minutes from airport. Will have plenty of tools in van and my mate in Drury has got welders and fabricating gear if you need it during the weekend.

cheers bro! I'll get them next week hopefully

[Fast Eddie]

nah scrivys right, cyl 4, second in from right

[Fast Eddie]

you knobend, you sure you're not related to the Captain?

yea pretty sure, cause my brakes work.

[scrivy]

I sent him a pm to see if he wants me to buy him a pie or something
He'll need hair-pie after he's finished working on his rig.... :yes::shifty:

I thought that was because you are a slut
Dude, I pilot the same sidecar - you're the one going from chair to chair........ You disease spreader...... :love:

Pretty sure it was cylinder 3 on Beakers (slow as all fuck eddies)outfit

NUMBER FUCKING THREE you knobend, you sure you're not related to the Captain?

Actually Kick, Eddies got a point. You can't weld it sitting on it!!! Are you related to Patrick Starfish??

Neil.

[scrivy]

This you kick??

I'd be friggin nervous if I was Gordy................
You've been known to fall off abit!

Make sure you bring your velcro gloves......

[Kickaha]

Actually Kick, Eddies got a point. You can't weld it sitting on it!!!

He's University educated so he's not that clever, you get some other cunt to weld it while you sit on it and watch

[Kickaha]

This you kick??

I'd be friggin nervous if I was Gordy................
You've been known to fall off abit!

Make sure you bring your velcro gloves......

Pis off, those pics aren't even local racing. it's only been twice in 12 years

[jellywrestler]

lol if you sit on the bike its 2nd cyl from the right.

But you're retarded if you're trying to weld while sitting on the bike.

So when you're infront of it, facing the exhaust manifolds, it's second in from the left.
my point was the correct way to number the cylinders is when sitting on a bike...

[scrivy]

my point was the correct way to number the cylinders is when sitting on a bike...

Well, if it was in a bike, then that would be the correct way of measuring it.
BUT..... its in a sidecar, so you don't sit, you kneel on it..... Read ya rulebook................ :facepalm:

[scrivy]

Pis off, those pics aren't even local racing. it's only been twice in 12 years

Twice??? At your pace??!!! GEEZUS H .........
Shit, Bobs never fallen off due to his fault, and he goes 3 times as fast as you................... :woohoo:

[Kickaha]

Twice??? At your pace??!!! GEEZUS H .........
Shit, Bobs never fallen off due to his fault, and he goes 3 times as fast as you................... :woohoo:

Yeah but he only does about 1/4 of the amount of racing, do you guys get any club racing yet :whistle:

[scrivy]

Yeah but he only does about 1/4 of the amount of racing, do you guys get any club racing yet :whistle:

Depends, do you call Eastern Creek a club round?? :Punk:

We just went there for practice for the 'Have-a-go day'.

[Kickaha]

http://youtu.be/vCz-RvjeRRQ

[nodrog]

mega huge video

29mins!!! is there a whole fuckin seasons worth of racing in that video?

[scrivy]

29mins!!! is there a whole fuckin seasons worth of racing in that video?

They're all long bikes Gordy - don't bother watching................. :shutup::dodge:

Nah, I just watched the whole lot! Hegarty into the left hander leaning on the other rig was nice!
Rubbings racing!!

29 mins?? You'd better start working out bro..........

[nodrog]

29 mins?? You'd better start working out bro..........

fuck that, I'll just go faster, finish earlier, as usual.

[gsxr]

They're all long bikes Gordy - don't bother watching.................

Nah, I just watched the whole lot! Hegarty into the left hander leaning on the other rig was nice!
Rubbings racing!!

29 mins?? You'd better start working out bro..........

Ya all need to do a few speedway meetings to harden up and get fit.
Thatll save you having to take your glass full of concrete before
your wee excursion on the tarmac.

[Kickaha]

29mins!!! is there a whole fuckin seasons worth of racing in that video?
Over there they do decent race distance, over here they whine if the GP at Ruapuna is more than 10 laps

Ya all need to do a few speedway meetings to harden up and get fit.
Get fit? speedway races are over by the time we've only done about 3/4 a lap
One of our races at a club day is more time racing than an entire speedway meeting

[Fast Eddie]

Ya all need to do a few speedway meetings to harden up and get fit.
Thatll save you having to take your glass full of concrete before
your wee excursion on the tarmac.

baaaa hahahahahahahaha !!! you're a riot bro.

we had one of your speedway guys come and race with us..

lets hope the rest of them aren't as soft on the road circuits!

speedway is easy, just keep turning one way for a couple of laps on the dirt going sideways. I can do that shit asleep and wake up refreshed

[Fast Eddie]

its fucking snowing in Dunedin!

finally I can take my fireblade out for a decent ride, been too hot lately.

yut UGGGHHHHHHH (clutch it up wheelie)

[sidecar bob]

Ya all need to do a few speedway meetings to harden up and get fit.
Thatll save you having to take your glass full of concrete before
your wee excursion on the tarmac.

What? A 3 minute race with all the corners going the same way.
Id dare not try it for fear of nodding off.

[Fast Eddie]

This

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and then add these.. (1 sticker missing, 2 wrong size but he will print me correct ones soon)

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and we should get close to this!

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[Kickaha]

What? A 3 minute race with all the corners going the same way.
Id dare not try it for fear of nodding off.

3 minutes? they're about 1/2 that

[scrivy]

Ya all need to do a few speedway meetings to harden up and get fit.
Thatll save you having to take your glass full of concrete before your wee excursion on the tarmac.

Glass??? Pfffttttt........ we're men, we drink our concrete out of heineken bottles........ :headbang: oh wait, they are glass.... :weird:

Have you ever watched the Lawrance Brothers in action?? They race like they are at speedway....... :rolleyes::bleh:

[scrivy]

3 minutes? they're about 1/2 that

You'd be screwed then Kick. You can't last that long in the sack.......... :eek:

[Kickaha]

You'd be screwed then Kick. You can't last that long in the sack.......... :eek:

Don't need to, it's all about me

[old rig]

well i got my entry in
can't wait to get the new motor out there (it will be interesting)
looking forward to the smart ass replys

[scrivy]

well i got my entry in
can't wait to get the new motor out there (it will be interesting)
looking forward to the smart ass replys

You got ya what in??? You feeling randy again Darren?
Pointless just taking ya motor out there. Why not take your whole sidecar...................... :rolleyes:

You should be able to take at least 2-3 seconds a lap off!!

[Fast Eddie]

haha definitely bring the whole sidecar out. those motors are cramped with 2 people hanging on.

[scrivy]

Actually Kai, I reckon your first lap around there will beat my time around there...............:banana:

[Fast Eddie]

.. why

are you leaving your motor at home and just bringing the sidechair rolling chassis?

[scrivy]

.. why

are you leaving your motor at home and just bringing the sidechair rolling chassis?

Nope.
I've never raced around there before on the house bus! :bleh::eek:

[Fast Eddie]

haha, you'll have to take 1 wheel off the bus at least.. surely the scrutineers will notice if you show up with a 4 wheeler

[Henk]

Eddie

Hyabusa = hire bus

[Fast Eddie]

you see, you gotta explain everything to me.

haha..

'busa huh! should be quick enough then ;)

[old rig]

Nope.
I've never raced around there before on the house bus! :bleh::eek:

well we will have fun then as i never had as much hp on this track

but bring on the rain i say lol

[Drew]

'busa huh! should be quick enough then ;)You'd bloody hope so, the thing has held the lap record at nearly every track in the country. Still only one rooster to have gone faster than a couple of those records too.

[sidecar bob]

You'd bloody hope so, the thing has held the lap record at nearly every track in the country. Still only one rooster to have gone faster than a couple of those records too.

Funny bit is, that we get cleaned up on the straights by good R1 & Gixer 1000 powered outfits.
Go figure.

[scrivy]

Still only one rooster to have gone faster than a couple of those records too.

You mean Foghorn Leghorn??? :rofl:

[scrivy]

Funny bit is, that we get cleaned up on the straights by good R1 & Gixer 1000 powered outfits.
Go figure.

If you lost your stomach, we wouldn't.................. :doh:

[scrivy]

Still only one rooster to have gone faster than a couple of those records too.

Do Ferraris go faster than V8 supercars? :corn:

[Kickaha]

There's really not enough going on to warrant having that outlay sitting around for me to be honest..
IF everyone that I'd heard make that comment bought an outfit then we'd have the biggest class out there and plenty more going on

He brought the ex Dowman sidecar minus the engine.
Bit of a pity to loose another one off the grid here

Have you ever watched the Lawrance Brothers in action?? They race like they are at speedway....... :rolleyes::bleh:
What was that line from Chris at one of the riders briefings? ah yes "It's not stockcars" and that just after they'd been giving someone a "nudge" in the previous meeting/race

Still only one rooster to have gone faster than a couple of those records too.
He went faster than a couple, and wasn't it levels the lap record changed hands about 3 times in one race?

If you lost your stomach, we wouldn't.................. :doh:
It'll be a bit hard to loose when I heard you can see it from the international space station

[Fast Eddie]

Funny bit is, that we get cleaned up on the straights by good R1 & Gixer 1000 powered outfits.
Go figure.
its all about the torque tho! straights are for pussies.


You'd bloody hope so, the thing has held the lap record at nearly every track in the country. Still only one rooster to have gone faster than a couple of those records too.
haha.. the Bron man claimed he held/holdsevery lap record in the country when he was down south last year or year before.. Hope you guys own em again :D

[Kickaha]

haha.. the Bron man claimed he held/holdsevery lap record in the country when he was down south last year or year before.. Hope you guys own em again :D

Although he has gone faster than it, he doesn't hold the record for Teretonga as it wasn't set during a race, not sure about Taupo either?

The chances of them getting those records again on that outfit are slim to none


its all about the torque tho! straights are for pussies
If you have good corner speed you'll normally have better straightline speed, that's where the captain falls on his arse

[sidecar bob]

The chances of them getting those records again on that outfit are slim to none


Is that a challenge?

[Kickaha]

Is that a challenge?
I can't see anyone doing it anytime soon, but I'll fork out a slab of piss and a chocolate fish each for any team that officially break a lap record that Bron currently holds

[scrivy]

If you have good corner speed you'll normally have better straightline speed, that's where the captain falls on his arse

Ah yes..... we have great corner speed, but with our sit up and beg riding position and a huge airbox in the way...... :cry:

[scrivy]

The chances of getting those records again on that outfit are slim to none


So.......... if we put another 60 kgs on the LCR, would he still have been able to break the lap records?? :shifty:
'Cause his rig is 60 kg lighter than ours. (Rig only) About 100 kgs if you take passengers into account..... :facepalm:

[scrivy]

I can't see anyone doing it anytime soon, but I'll fork out a slab of piss and a chocolate fish each for any team that officially break a lap record that Bron currently holds

You'd better bring up a fucken big chocolate fish and a slab of 'Ken to Hamsters then Kick, 'cause we were definately faster than him at the Creek!! :Punk:
........and the creek has a niceeeee longggggggggggg front straight too.......
Corner speeds Kick, corner speeds...... :woohoo:

[scrivy]

..:corn: ..

[Kickaha]

You'd better bring up a fucken big chocolate fish and a slab of 'Ken to Hamsters then Kick, :

I doubt that I'll need it


So.......... if we put another 60 kgs on the LCR, would he still have been able to break the lap records?? :shifty:
Who would know but even if you took 60kg off yours I doubt you'd be as fast

[scrivy]

I doubt that I'll need it

Ya muppet - I said for us going faster than him at the creek!

[Kickaha]

Ya muppet - I said for us going faster than him at the creek!

Fuck off dick, that wasn't a lap record

I'm talking local tracks, thats when you're not to busy pissing off to Oz because you can't win here anymore

[scrivy]

Fuck off you awesome dude, that wasn't a lap record
No it wasn't - and Bron was over 8 seconds slower than the lap record there.......
I'm talking local tracks, thats when you're not to busy pissing off to Oz because you can't win here anymore

Mate, when you get a free trip jammed under your nose, you take it - ask Kai!! I see you're coming up to Hamsters - when the Aussies are coming over here. Pot kettle? :innocent:
:shake:

[nodrog]

But i dont like chocolate fish :-(

[scrivy]

But i dont like chocolate fish :-(

For you it'll be a chocolate starfish.....:shifty:

[Kickaha]

Mate, when you get a free trip jammed under your nose, you take it - ask Kai!! I see you're coming up to Hamsters - when the Aussies are coming over here. Pot kettle? :innocent:
:shake:
I don't have a National series to avoid at the same time though:shifty:

But i dont like chocolate fish :-(
Well if you break one of the lap records I'll let you suck Scrivys dick, Bob tells me it's quite tasty

[sidecar bob]

Fuck off dick, that wasn't a lap record

I'm talking local tracks, thats when you're not to busy pissing off to Oz because you can't win here anymore

Thats odd, we pissed off to OZ because we cant win here anymore?? And somehow Aussie is a less competitive scene??
Im confused.

[sidecar bob]

I don't have a National series to avoid at the same time though:shifty:

Well if you break one of the lap records I'll let you suck Scrivys dick, Bob tells me it's quite tasty

Ive loosened one bolt loose on the BMW, you get to find out which one.

[scrivy]

I don't have a National series to avoid at the same time though:shifty:
I didn't know I was racing in a National series back then??? F@ck, you learn something everyday!! :shit:

Well if you break one of the lap records I'll let you suck my dick, Bob tells me it's quite small though.......

Dude, relax.... someone will blow you......... :violin:
Oh, and next to Bob, your's would look pretty small................. :bleh:

[sidecar bob]

Seriously, can we keep this thread fun & informative.
Could we also refrain from mentioning certain people, that usually end up with people that are friends, arguing.

[Fast Eddie]

Ah yes..... we have great corner speed, but with our sit up and beg riding position and a huge airbox in the way...... :cry:
sound like my bike :D yay


Mate, when you get a free trip jammed under your nose, you take it - ask Kai!!

fuckin' oath!!

[scrivy]

Seriously, can we keep this thread fun & informative.
Could we also refrain from mentioning certain people, that usually end up with people that are friends, arguing.

Right you are!! I won't mention that Khant Kick anymore!!! :love::shutup:

Informative?? WTF?? I thought this was a shit talk thread?? :eek:

[Kornholio]

Seriously, can we keep this thread fun & informative.
Could we also refrain from mentioning certain people, that usually end up with people that are friends, arguing.

Heh

Gordon, can you or someone give me some information on the sidecar you have ie history, specs etc

No blowjobs please :blink:

[scrivy]

sound like my bike :D yay
fuckin' oath!!

Hey Eddie, just checking, is this you????
Steady Eddie.....

[scrivy]

Seriously, can we keep this thread fun & informative.


You still haven't told me if I can set my tyre pressures now for Hampsters...... :soon:

Neil.

[Fast Eddie]

Seriously, can we keep this thread fun
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these fellas were all about sidecars and having fun!


& informative.

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this is pretty informative. always wear your helmet. simple.

[nodrog]

Ive loosened one bolt loose on the BMW, you get to find out which one.

Im the loose nut!

Ffs, can somebody buy me an iphone? Its taken me 10, edi t, 15 mins to post this.

[Fast Eddie]

Hey Eddie, just checking, is this you???? [potrait of andy himself in the mid 90's]
nah bro - this is me:
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darkness!

[Kickaha]

WTF?? I thought this was a shit talk thread?? :eek:
Me too, fuck that sidecarboob is a spoilsport

these fellas were all about sidecars and having fun!
Yeah just on their way to invade Poland

[Fast Eddie]

Yeah just on their way to invade Poland

like I said, they knew how to have fun!

[Fast Eddie]

Hey Bob - do you guys have a decent sign writer up there that you use for pinky or anyone uses for their bikes? I havent really seen any of your guys bikes.

All the agip stickers I had made up - they are all wrong, I gave him specific measurements and he f*cked every single one up. He wants to charge me another couple hundred to re do them - f*ck him! useless git.

So i need a competant sign writer I guess, bike leaves tomorrow so only option now is to have it done up north before the race. or it will just be a shitty plain yellow bike lol

[Kickaha]

Hey Bob - do you guys have a decent sign writer up there that you use for pinky or anyone uses for their bikes?

I can just see the look on your face arriving at the track to get your bike and seeing the signwriter under special orders from Scrivy and Sidecarbob has put in 400mm high letters

"Kai loves cock"

[sidecar bob]

Hey Bob - do you guys have a decent sign writer up there that you use for pinky or anyone uses for their bikes? I havent really seen any of your guys bikes.

All the agip stickers I had made up - they are all wrong, I gave him specific measurements and he f*cked every single one up. He wants to charge me another couple hundred to re do them - f*ck him! useless git.

So i need a competant sign writer I guess, bike leaves tomorrow so only option now is to have it done up north before the race. or it will just be a shitty plain yellow bike lol

Umm, to be honest, our sticker guy did all the wrong sizes for pinky too.
Its like dealing with special needs children.
Ill make some calls.
Edit.. Calls made. E mail me some pics & sizes that I can forward on directly too the man & he will supply.
The Agip name is currently being replaced by the name ENI, so Agip will be no more.

[Fast Eddie]

Umm, to be honest, our sticker guy did all the wrong sizes for pinky too.
Its like dealing with special needs children.
Ill make some calls.

haha! it is.. well at least they weren't drunk and cheeky with you (or maybe they were)

yea let me know - I just went to a professional outfit in town.. they were much more enthusiastic and proffessional but couldn't find the "Team Agip" font (old sign writer won't give me the source files either, cunt)

anyway.. im a bit calmer now.. was throwing a wobbly before!

[Fast Eddie]

I can just see the look on your face arriving at the track to get your bike and seeing the signwriter under special orders from Scrivy and Sidecarbob has put in 400mm high letters

"Kai loves cock"

didn't you do that or similar to Annans trailer?

[scrivy]

I can just see the look on your face arriving at the track to get your bike and seeing the signwriter under special orders from Scrivy and Sidecarbob has put in 400mm high letters

"Kai loves cock"

I like the way you think Kick....!!! :shifty::innocent::woohoo:

800mm high, maybe 'Kai loves to back it in......' or 'Gordy's so fast... and then it's over..' :shutup:

[Kickaha]

didn't you do that or similar to Annans trailer?


Nah, that was Spike and Denny, don't think I've ever seen Dave so wild
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=122175&d=1236658496
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=122176&d=1236658496
I was fucking pissing myself an he really wanted to kill someone, Spike had to do some quick sucking up, or is that sucking off? one of the those anyway when he got to Puke so Dave didn't dismember him and feed his body to some pigs

That's the trailer speedway Grant has got after a repaint

[Fast Eddie]

hahaha both hilarious. ill take the backing it in one.

i got time to kill now, got Custom Signs in dunners trying to whip my up new stickers by 5.30! way better service than trying to talk to a drunk fella at the pub "having tequila shots in the sun"

[nodrog]

nah bro - this is me:
269966

darkness!

Do you have dreds too?


...
The Agip name is currently being replaced by the name ENI, so Agip will be no more.

Just slap ENI old stickers on it then, I have some brats ones.


That's the trailer speedway Grant has got after a repaint

So thats the trailer I get with my new rig, choice!

[Kickaha]

So thats the trailer I get with my new rig, choice!

We better get the blue off and back into the pink then

[Fast Eddie]

Edit.. Calls made. E mail me some pics & sizes that I can forward on directly too the man & he will supply.
The Agip name is currently being replaced by the name ENI, so Agip will be no more.

Hey Bob thanks, this other sign place here in Dunedin is having a go, I just stopped in out of curiousity and they were like we can do that in a matter of hours, apparently I can pick new ones up tomorrow - if they can't manage it will email you pics and sizes

eni is parent company of agip eh? see how long agip as a brand lasts, think its big in the states? anyway.. doesn't matter, as long as the bike looks like it used to.

and finally - Bike Tranz called and they are delayed in Wellies, so pick up my bike Friday night now.

[Fast Eddie]

Do you have dreds too?



Just slap ENI old stickers on it then, I have some brats ones.



haha no dreads no.

nah flag eni stickers.. gotta be the same as it used otherwise no point.. agip/eni don't actually sponsor me haha. just doin it for the history value.

transdiesel chch does however supply me cheap agip oil. but thats thanks to transdiesel

[Kickaha]

and finally - Bike Tranz called and they are delayed in Wellies, so pick up my bike Friday night now.
Pity they can't be delayed until Monday

[scrivy]

....better get back into the pink then....

WTF???? I didn't think you went for anything other than brown?? :bleh:

Or am I colour blind??? :facepalm:

[Fast Eddie]

Pity they can't be delayed until Monday

yea.. didn't ask actually - but literally out of money at the mo so meh

Grant said i could have a swing on the windle on sat (if they are racing, he seems to think they are)

[scrivy]

(if they are racing, he seems to think they are)

Is that what they call it............. :facepalm::laugh::bleh::corn:

[Fast Eddie]

hahaha, you only need 2 to have a race..

doesn't even have to be 2 of the same thing.. race a car versus a horse if you like.

winnings winning!

[Kickaha]

Is that what they call it............. :facepalm::laugh::bleh::corn:

Well depends, quite often we just fuck about, but we get to do that because the club down here is ok with giving us a run even if only a couple or three turn up

How would you get on trying that with the clubs up there? oh sorry forgot, they don't fucking want you :finger: :bleh:

[Kickaha]

Fuck, someone in Tauranga won big Wednesday, wonder if was my new best friend Sidecar bob (top bloke that he is):shifty:

[Fast Eddie]

get off, hes my best friend. Hey Bob, how are you millionaire mate?

could be my parents.. fingers crossed! sidecars for everyone!

[Drew]

sidecars for everyone!I'll put in my order for the Windle short thanks.

[scrivy]

Fuck, someone in Tauranga won big Wednesday, wonder if was my new best friend Sidecar bob (top bloke that he is):shifty:

He's not returning my txts or calls................. Kahnt!! :no:

[scrivy]

I'll put in my order for the Windle short thanks.

What?? Is it mis-firing?? <_< Why would ya want that??

[Kickaha]

fingers crossed! sidecars for everyone!
I'm not greedy, get me Daves and a front end upgrade

[scrivy]

I'm not greedy, get me Daves and a front end upgrade

Front end?? You mean a new rider?? :facepalm:

[scrivy]

a front end upgrade

What up with the front end? :confused:

[Kickaha]

What up with the front end? :confused:

If you knew anything about the LCR you would know that about 1994/95 they went to a different front suspension set up which you can upgrade the earlier bikes to, of course it probably costs about a gazillon swiss francs because Louis isn't one to charge a pittance

[Drew]

If you knew anything about the LCR you would know that about 1994/95 they went to a different front suspension set up which you can upgrade the earlier bikes to, of course it probably costs about a gazillon swiss francs because Louis isn't one to charge a pittance
I was looking at the difference at Ruapuna between the two. Get the upgrade made.

[scrivy]

If you knew anything about the LCR you would know that about 1994/95 they went to a different front suspension set up which you can upgrade the earlier bikes to, of course it probably costs about a gazillon swiss francs because Louis isn't one to charge a pittance

Well fuck me drunk!! I didn't know that - go figure!!
How old is Divvos rig?? I thought it was 2003/4ish??

Fuck the upgrade. We've got 1930's front end technology, suspension from the ark, and tyres from 2 years ago. We're good to go! :Punk:

[scrivy]

If you knew anything about the LCR you would know that about 1994/95 they went to a different front suspension set up which you can upgrade the earlier bikes to, of course it probably costs about a gazillon swiss francs because Louis isn't one to charge a pittance

Just as a matter of interest, what lap times did you do around Ruapuna on the old bike compared to the new bike?
....and how much of that is the engine only?

[Kickaha]

How old is Divvos rig?? I thought it was 2003/4ish??

It's a 1992 so it's 20 years old, Pete the Pirate and that other guy have the only LCRs later than 2000, I think the latest one in the country is about an 08

There's a 04 LCR on Steves Place at the moment for 19,000 GBP with an 06 engine and another similar one for 14,600 GBP so price wise they've come down quite a lot from what they were probably close to 50% on 5-6 years ago

You can buy an eighties or early nineties F2 for anywhere from 3000GBP upwards and it'd still be better than 90% of the short bikes in the country

[Kickaha]

Just as a matter of interest, what lap times did you do around Ruapuna on the old bike compared to the new bike?
....and how much of that is the engine only?
On the old bike a low 1.49 and the best I could find was a 1.48 with Frilly onboard, Aaron Lovell on the sister bike with R1 power could do 1.45

We can now run flat 1.45 all day long with roughly 40 less HP and I'm guessing 50kg plus less weight and I think there's a bit more in it yet, I honestly still don't think we've quite got our heads around just how hard it can be pushed as the Lawrances, Adam/Stu and you and Steve are still another 2-3 seconds a lap faster

I think most of the gains are in better handling and less weight although the 1000 is a lot less brutal in the power delivery and doesn't just smoke up everywhere at a touch of the throttle

[scrivy]

It's a 1992 so it's 20 years old.
There's a 04 LCR on Steves Place at the moment for 19,000 GBP with an 06 engine and another similar one for 14,600 GBP so price wise they've come down quite a lot from what they were probably close to 50% on 5-6 years ago
You can buy an eighties or early nineties F2 for anywhere from 3000GBP upwards and it'd still be better than 90% of the short bikes in the country
Cheers for that Kick. I always thought Daves was much later than that. 3K GBP for a shorty!? Fark! That's cheap, and yes, would wipe out the field with a decent rider (oh, and passenger...)!! Why aren't more being imported? What does it cost to get it shipped over here?


On the old bike a low 1.49 and the best I could find was a 1.48 with Frilly onboard, Aaron Lovell on the sister bike with R1 power could do 1.45

We can now run flat 1.45 all day long with roughly 40 less HP and I'm guessing 50kg plus less weight and I think there's a bit more in it yet, I honestly still don't think we've quite got our heads around just how hard it can be pushed as the Lawrances, Adam/Stu and you and Steve are still another 2-3 seconds a lap faster
I think most of the gains are in better handling and less weight although the 1000 is a lot less brutal in the power delivery and doesn't just smoke up everywhere at a touch of the throttle

See, and this is what I don't understand, why are people spending bigger dollars on flasher machines, when if you imported a shorty, for maybe $9K, you'd go faster than 1.45's also. As for the less weight etc, that's a given for racing, but our rig is pretty much the opposite. Ours doesn't handle (we've never even altered the suspension...), is heavier (by lots...), and the Busa is by all comparisons 'brutal'...
If I was starting out in our class, I'd import a later model, ultra light shorty as you've mentioned. You'd cane up!
They are also far more forgiving than long bikes - from what I've seen.

For me, it's gotta be value for money. We spend fark all, and always have fun.

[Fast Eddie]

theres heaps on stevesplace.

'90 lcr with front upgrade for 7kGBP

lushh, then you got windles and bakers and others too..

good question - why aren't more being imported? im going to get me one in the next season or two (how many loans can I acquire lol).. prob from steves place ;) shipping can't be too bad.. 2kish i assumed? NZD

[scrivy]

theres heaps on stevesplace.

'90 lcr with front upgrade for 7kGBP

lushh, then you got windles and bakers and others too..

good question - why aren't more being imported? im going to get me one in the next season or two (how many loans can I acquire lol).. prob from steves place ;) shipping can't be too bad.. 2kish i assumed? NZD

Kai, if there were more people like you out there, then our class would be the best bar none!

This year has seen a few teams/and newbies up their game.
The farm boys, upgrading to a 600 weapon,
Des upgrading to a nice long bike from his shorty, (the long bike wasn't out there the previous 6 years),
Robbie Shorter re-powering Westies long chair with a GSXR1000, (the long bike wasn't out there the previous 12 years),
Rob Edwards and his wife buying the Blackbird Zimmerframe, (wasn't out there the previous 4 years - But unfortunately won't be ready for this season),
Kai re-juvenating his machine to bring it into the 2012's!

Who else have I missed?

:woohoo:

[Kickaha]

3K GBP for a shorty!? Fark! That's cheap, and yes, would wipe out the field with a decent rider (oh, and passenger...)!! Why aren't more being imported? What does it cost to get it shipped over here?
I dont understand why more aren't being bought in, I suspect it's the hassle of organising it and buying something sight unseen
dunno if you can see this http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=42977 but it's a 1984 F2 bike for $2500GBP with a recent engine overhaul and some spares, as old as it is it'd still be better than most short chassis in this country
There's another one that sold for 2000GBP http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=42755[/B]
But when you get into the late nineties outfits you're up around 6000GBP


See, and this is what I don't understand, why are people spending bigger dollars on flasher machines, when if you imported a shorty, for maybe $9K, you'd go faster than 1.45's also. As for the less weight etc, that's a given for racing, but our rig is pretty much the opposite. Ours doesn't handle (we've never even altered the suspension...), is heavier (by lots...), and the Busa is by all comparisons 'brutal'...
If I was starting out in our class, I'd import a later model, ultra light shorty as you've mentioned. You'd cane up!
They are also far more forgiving than long bikes - from what I've seen.

For me, it's gotta be value for money. We spend fark all, and always have fun.
I thnk it's about what people want and what they like, I love the LCRs although I still think if one of the top Euro guys came over on one we'd all look like rank amatuers but we'd probably see that if a top F2 crew came over as well as I think they'd smoke most if not all the F1 bikes here

Given the choice I'd be equally as happy with either an LCR or something like the R1 powered Windle for sale down here

I had a chat about value for money a while ago, basically the more we spent and the closer up the ladder we got the less I found I was enjoying it, the dollar vs enjoyment got all out of kilter

[Kickaha]

Kai, if there were more people like you out there, then our class would be the best bar none!

This year has seen a few teams/and newbies up their game.
The farm boys, upgrading to a 600 weapon,
Des upgrading to a nice long bike from his shorty, (the long bike wasn't out there the previous 6 years),
Robbie Shorter re-powering Westies long chair with a GSXR1000, (the long bike wasn't out there the previous 12 years),
Rob Edwards and his wife buying the Blackbird Zimmerframe, (wasn't out there the previous 4 years - But unfortunately won't be ready for this season),
:

What did Des end up getting? did he sell the short bike because that was very fast with Johnny B on it, high 1.44 at Ruapuna back in 02 with the original FZR in it

Is the bike Robbie bought the one Craig McDonald had with the Kawasaki in it that ran in AFR colours?

[scrivy]

I dont understand why more aren't being bought in, I suspect it's the hassle of organising it and buying something sight unseen. I thnk it's about what people want and what they like, I love the LCRs although I still think if one of the top Euro guys came over on one we'd all look like rank amatuers but we'd probably see that if a top F2 crew came over as well as I think they'd smoke most if not all the F1 bikes here
I had a chat about value for money a while ago, basically the more we spent and the closer up the ladder we got the less I found I was enjoying it, the dollar vs enjoyment got all out of kilter

Those rigs are dirt cheap!!! You would spend $20K to build something like that. Unbelieveable!

As for value for money. As I've said before, Bob and I used to cap our entire season at $5,000 between us. ($2500 each) We were always up the pointy end, sometimes running on canvas (but still did a lap record at Levels as you mentioned previously), but we were the team out there having the most fun - you must agree with that. Just 'cause someone does a National race meeting, doesn't mean they want to be a National Champ - rather than have fun!

[Kickaha]

Just 'cause someone does a National race meeting, doesn't mean they want to be a National Champ - rather than have fun!
I think quite a few people have forgotten the "have fun" part of it

[sidecar bob]

My shit stirring days are over, & id never get into a short bike long bike argument again.
But three weeks ago I was at manfield & caught up with an old racing chum that bought a long outfit a few years ago, after having a ball on a shorty for many years.
The long bike is for sale now & he remarked to me, these things are too complex to set up & I cant get on top of it, im slower, ive got too much money tied up & im not having fun anymore, I wish id kept the short bike.
Thats just a fact as he said it.

[sidecar bob]

I think quite a few people have forgotten the "have fun" part of it

And I dont think people get jealous of people that are faster than them, but of people that are having more fun than them, for less input.

[Kickaha]

The long bike is for sale now & he remarked to me, these things are too complex to set up & I cant get on top of it, im slower, ive got too much money tied up & im not having fun anymore, I wish id kept the short bike.
What is it and how much does he want?

They aren't that hard to set up and the information to do so is easily available

Funny though, Dave reckons he can't ride a short bike and different bikes do seem to suit different people

[scrivy]

Funny though, Dave reckons he can't ride a short bike and different bikes do seem to suit different people

Divvo couldn't FIT into a short bike..... :shutup::laugh:

[jellywrestler]

if a top F2 crew came over as well as I think they'd smoke most if not all the F1 bikes

Biggs/Biggs won the NZTT at Pukekohe one year on an F2

[jellywrestler]

The long bike is for sale now & he remarked to me, these things are too complex to set up & I cant get on top of it,
in one respect that is the case but on the other side of the coin at least if it's a 'brand' of bike (as opposed to a one off) then there's usually a benchmark setup to work from and with that you can compare with another bike that's as close as possible to yours so that helps some people as the whole sidecar set up for a lot of people is a dark art.

[Kickaha]

Short vs Long, I also don't think one or the other is inherently better than the other, they're just different, if anything though I think the short bikes are generally restricted by the F2 rules that run overseas and the type of front ends they can use

Here there's been other stuff tried like back in the eighties with the AGIP bike and Battletruck being front engined but hub centre steer and this lot latter oufit built in OZ
http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6803&t=1

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6802&t=1

[Kickaha]

in one respect that is the case but on the other side of the coin at least if it's a 'brand' of bike (as opposed to a one off) then there's usually a benchmark setup to work from and with that you can compare with another bike that's as close as possible to yours so that helps some people as the whole sidecar set up for a lot of people is a dark art.

We had a bit of a struggle with the LCR handling like crap when Dave took delivery of it but with information readily available it was only a few meetings to get it handling a lot better, then a year back we had a guy out from the Uk who went over it with us as well

It too us longer to learn how to ride it than to set it up and I'd say the learning to ride bit hasn't finshed yet

[scrivy]

Here there's been other stuff tried like back in the eighties with the AGIP bike and Battletruck being front engined but hub centre steer and this lot latter oufit built in OZ
http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6802&t=1

That looks exactly what I raced with at the Creek! It was a weapon!! If I was to build a rig, it would be exactly the same as that one!! The Aussie rider reckoned it had cost him $70K AUD up to that point!! That's simply too much coin for me for a hobby. Our Busa wasn't any slower than it (but did weigh about 40kgs heavier), and we beat it 4 out of 4 races. Still it's a bloody nice example of a shorty! Respect!!

[scrivy]

I'd say the learning to ride bit hasn't finshed yet

You'd fuggin hope so......... :facepalm::shutup::laugh:

[sidecar bob]

Kai, if there were more people like you out there, then our class would be the best bar none!

This year has seen a few teams/and newbies up their game.
The farm boys, upgrading to a 600 weapon,
Des upgrading to a nice long bike from his shorty, (the long bike wasn't out there the previous 6 years),
Robbie Shorter re-powering Westies long chair with a GSXR1000, (the long bike wasn't out there the previous 12 years),
Rob Edwards and his wife buying the Blackbird Zimmerframe, (wasn't out there the previous 4 years - But unfortunately won't be ready for this season),
Kai re-juvenating his machine to bring it into the 2012's!

Who else have I missed?

:woohoo:
Who else have you missed??
Only the best rider in the country currently. think about it!!

[Kickaha]

That looks exactly what I raced with at the Creek! !

Might have been, it is an Oz bike and currently for sale

[scrivy]

Who else have you missed??
Only the best rider in the country currently. think about it!!

My bad..........
Sorry, GORDY!!....
How did I miss him!!!????? :love:
Oh, he's also on a bike that was not out there for the last few years....... This years racing will be jam packed!!! Better bring ya KY it'll be that tight at the front........... :buggerd:

[Kickaha]

Oh, he's also on a bike that was not out there for the last few years......
2010 at Levels nationals was that last time that Sidecar was on the track

I'm looking forward to seeing what Gordy has done to it as it was about a decade overdue for a overhaul

[scrivy]

2010 at Levels nationals was that last time that Sidecar was on the track
You are shitting me!!!!?????:shit:

I'm looking forward to seeing what Gordy has done to it as it was about a decade overdue for a overhaul
You will spank your monkey!!!

[scrivy]

Might have been, it is an Oz bike and currently for sale

Yip, looks close to the same one - found pics of it still on my camera. Nice rig!! Beautiful workmanship.
There were two of them like it.

[sidecar bob]

My bad..........
Sorry, GORDY!!....
How did I miss him!!!????? :love:
Oh, he's also on a bike that was not out there for the last few years....... This years racing will be jam packed!!! Better bring ya KY it'll be that tight at the front........... :buggerd:

Its going to be fairly tight in the rear too. Theres a few virgins out there this year, or ones that havent done it for ages.
My vote goes to carnage!!

[Fast Eddie]

carnage wooo!!!

its not too late yet - we can still bring up the numbers with some positive encouragement to all those that are remotely keen :)

that aussie bike is so sweet eh Kick.. i look at it weekly on old stevesplace haha.

looking forward to nationals as well, we will be doing north and south rounds and so will Grant on the long windle down here, and maybe Annan and Kick will get their gay outreach program sponsoring a trip up north again

[Drew]

Cheers for that Kick. I always thought Daves was much later than that. 3K GBP for a shorty!? Fark! That's cheap, and yes, would wipe out the field with a decent rider (oh, and passenger...)!! Why aren't more being imported? What does it cost to get it shipped over here?



See, and this is what I don't understand, why are people spending bigger dollars on flasher machines, when if you imported a shorty, for maybe $9K, you'd go faster than 1.45's also. As for the less weight etc, that's a given for racing, but our rig is pretty much the opposite. Ours doesn't handle (we've never even altered the suspension...), is heavier (by lots...), and the Busa is by all comparisons 'brutal'...
If I was starting out in our class, I'd import a later model, ultra light shorty as you've mentioned. You'd cane up!
They are also far more forgiving than long bikes - from what I've seen.

For me, it's gotta be value for money. We spend fark all, and always have fun.Have you ever ridden teh short Windle the pirate brought over? I wonder how it would respond to yourself and Steve trying to manhandle it the way you do on the house bus.

You ride completely opposite what every other rider told me to do it. "It's getting out of shape. Yeeehaaaaaaa, twist bitch...TWIST"! No noe else does that, they all swear it needs finesse. The blue pile of shit we rode responded to a brute force attack suck as you ride, but the Windle didn't like it. When the rear stepped out on a right hander, feeding it the message made it sorta bounce the drive wheel. Instead I had to kind of stay with a neutral throttle till it came back in line.

Mind you, I had two days riding experience, and Jimmy had none. So I am probably just guilty of being a noob without a clue.

[Fast Eddie]

Kai, if there were more people like you out there, then our class would be the best bar none!



cher cher bro, I ask everyone I meet if they wanna get into it haha, I take people out during lunch times race day or during test days I invite people out and give everyone whos keen a few laps - everyone loves it.. but taking that next step to commit to buying one seems tricky. Gotta find the key to make them take the plunge eh! We'll get there, its not too late to fire up the class and pick numbers up

[Fast Eddie]

"It's getting out of shape. Yeeehaaaaaaa, twist bitch...TWIST"! No noe else does that,
right here! haha.. everyone tells me my engine is gonna blow up soon.. pff. rear tyre is going down fast! had heaps of life 3 meetings ago.. now not so much. not canvas yet so we are good to go.



but the Windle didn't like it. When the rear stepped out on a right hander, feeding it the message made it sorta bounce the drive wheel. Instead I had to kind of stay with a neutral throttle till it came back in line.


swinger would have been messing it up for you :) I get around the right handers in a strange fish tail motion... I got plenty to learn! just need to twist it more I recon.

[nodrog]

Dont any of you bastards have a job?

[Drew]

right here! haha.. everyone tells me my engine is gonna blow up soon.. pff. rear tyre is going down fast! had heaps of life 3 meetings ago.. now not so much. not canvas yet so we are good to go..You'll know what I mean when you see those two laricans ride. No one looks as out of shape as Andy when he's in a mood for showing off.





swinger would have been messing it up for you :) I get around the right handers in a strange fish tail motion... I got plenty to learn! just need to twist it more I recon.If the swinger is still when the back steps out then what I was describing is not down to them.

Might have been a bit soft on the chair wheel come to think of it, I don't know if anyone did a pressure check before we went out.

[Drew]

Dont any of you bastards have a job?Been there, home now.

[sidecar bob]

Have you ever ridden teh short Windle the pirate brought over? I wonder how it would respond to yourself and Steve trying to manhandle it the way you do on the house bus.

You ride completely opposite what every other rider told me to do it. "It's getting out of shape. Yeeehaaaaaaa, twist bitch...TWIST"! No noe else does that, they all swear it needs finesse. The blue pile of shit we rode responded to a brute force attack suck as you ride, but the Windle didn't like it. When the rear stepped out on a right hander, feeding it the message made it sorta bounce the drive wheel. Instead I had to kind of stay with a neutral throttle till it came back in line.

Mind you, I had two days riding experience, and Jimmy had none. So I am probably just guilty of being a noob without a clue.

Its the only way Scrivy knows. I saw a u tube clip on how to swing, I think kick posted it a while back. It described ONE way of swinging for ONE style of riding.
Swinging for scrivy dosent involve any bullshit steering & balancing the outfit, he does all the steering himself with throttle & brute force, he dosent let you steer, because if you tried that shit, he would sit you on your arse quick smart.
All swinging for scrivy involves, is NOT FALLING OFF, to the point where toes are tucked under & you asshole is sucking the vinyl off the deck.
Conversely, scriv looks at a picture on our passage wall of Tracey at Eastern Creek, up on two wheels until the faring is dragging on the R/H side, on full opposite lock & shakes his head in disbelief at how "she just got away with that one" (lap after lap after lap)
Finesse & balance meets brute force & ignorance.

[tail_end_charlie]

OK, so I'm interested in having a go at the whole swinger thing. Sure as hell looks like it would be fun, so long as I can hang on. Anyways, is anyone doing some testing or something or other at Taupo, Puke, or HD anytime soon where I could hang on and scream like a little girl for a few laps? I'll make sure and bring a case of beer for when you throw my ass off.

I have all the gear, just need a ride................................on the sidecar. I'll bring along a shotgun to prevent any other "riding" you lot seem to enjoy, I don't 'swing' that way.

[sidecar bob]

OK, so I'm interested in having a go at the whole swinger thing. Sure as hell looks like it would be fun, so long as I can hang on. Anyways, is anyone doing some testing or something or other at Taupo, Puke, or HD anytime soon where I could hang on and scream like a little girl for a few laps? I'll make sure and bring a case of beer for when you throw my ass off.

I have all the gear, just need a ride................................on the sidecar. I'll bring along a shotgun to prevent any other "riding" you lot seem to enjoy, I don't 'swing' that way.

Nek weekend 22nd at Taupo on the BMW classic.
Gordy can take you for a few laps, I dont need the practice.

[scrivy]

Gordy can take you for a few laps, I dont need the practice.

LMFAO!! Doesn't Gordy make your arse eat the vinyl??? :rofl:

[Kickaha]

but the Windle didn't like it. When the rear stepped out on a right hander, feeding it the message made it sorta bounce the drive wheel. Instead I had to kind of stay with a neutral throttle till it came back in line.
Chair wheel digging in to much

All swinging for scrivy involves, is NOT FALLING OFF
That's what Daves old bike was like

[tail_end_charlie]

Nek weekend 22nd at Taupo on the BMW classic.
Gordy can take you for a few laps, I dont need the practice.

Sweet, that sounds awsome!
Will I need any specific paperwork, license or any of that junk?


LMFAO!! Doesn't Gordy make your arse eat the vinyl??? :rofl:

Ummmm, the point of the game is to not throw me off the first time out right? I mean, wouldn't it make better sense to get me interested and suckered into the whole sidecar thing and then sometime down the road have fun scaring the crap outta me? Or am I just going to be scared shitless from the first lap and forever more?

[Kickaha]

Or am I just going to be scared shitless from the first lap and forever more?
It varies between individuals, I would say 7 out of ten love it, 2 out of ten can take it or leave it, one out of ten will go out of there way to not set foot with 10km of a sidecar ever again

[sidecar bob]

Sweet, that sounds awsome!
Will I need any specific paperwork, license or any of that junk?



Ummmm, the point of the game is to not throw me off the first time out right? I mean, wouldn't it make better sense to get me interested and suckered into the whole sidecar thing and then sometime down the road have fun scaring the crap outta me? Or am I just going to be scared shitless from the first lap and forever more?

Gordy is smooth & reliable (well he is now anyway) You will be exhausted after 3 slow laps & will wonder how anyone ever completes a race on the side.
The next time you try it you will be twice as good & so on.
You wont need a licence etc, just wear some boots & leathers that dont rip chunks out of my paintwork & vinyl.
In other words, no exposed buckles & zips. And no, I dont lend my gear.

[Drew]

All swinging for scrivy involves, is NOT FALLING OFF,Only time I've swing, and all I tried to do.:sweatdrop

[Fast Eddie]

sigh - second attempt at stickers.. :S no improvement but another 120 bucks

they couldn't do it either. 140mm does not mean 100mm !!! wtf! I even gave them the first stickers and told them they had to be bigger, they are not noticeably bigger - and seems to be a no refunds type of game sign writing, if I want another go I gotta pay again.. fuck em! paid twice now to two diff signwriters I shan't do it a third time.

its a shame, I wanted the bike to look as close to the photos I have, but all the stickers are gonna be noticeably too small - tough shit, im past outta money trying to make it look pretty :)

shooting up to chch now to do as much as I can before bike gets picked up tmoro arvo and then its heading to you fellas up north!

catch yas soon

[tail_end_charlie]

Gordy is smooth & reliable (well he is now anyway) You will be exhausted after 3 slow laps & will wonder how anyone ever completes a race on the side.
The next time you try it you will be twice as good & so on.
You wont need a licence etc, just wear some boots & leathers that dont rip chunks out of my paintwork & vinyl.
In other words, no exposed buckles & zips. And no, I dont lend my gear.

Cool. Smooth and reliable sounds good to me.

Exhausted after 3 slow laps?!?! Come on now, can't be that hard, right? :msn-wink:

I have a set of 1-piece Berik leathers that should be alright.

Is it just a test day at Taupo? And what time are ya'll gonna be there?

[jellywrestler]

sigh - second attempt at stickers.. :S no improvement but another 120 bucks

they couldn't do it either. 140mm does not mean 100mm !!! wtf! I even gave them the first stickers and told them they had to be bigger, they are not noticeably bigger - and seems to be a no refunds type of game sign writing, if I want another go I gotta pay again.. fuck em! paid twice now to two diff signwriters I shan't do it a third time.

i
so surely on your order sheet you wrote down the measurements or the signwriter did in front of you? how then can it go wrong and why did you even hand over said money?

[nodrog]

Cool. Smooth and reliable sounds good to me.

Exhausted after 3 slow laps?!?! Come on now, can't be that hard, right? :msn-wink:

I have a set of 1-piece Berik leathers that should be alright.

Is it just a test day at Taupo? And what time are ya'll gonna be there?

Its the NZCMRRRRR winter Metamucil spectacular. Dont panic I will be nice, but bring some beers just incase I am thirsty (actually bring a couple of Heinikens for Bob anyway, its his sidecar).

P.S. you arent 140kgs or anything are you?

[tail_end_charlie]

Its the NZCMRRRRR winter Metamucil spectacular. Dont panic I will be nice, but bring some beers just incase I am thirsty (actually bring a couple of Heinikens for Bob anyway, its his sidecar).

P.S. you arent 140kgs or anything are you?

Ha ha ha, naaaa, I'm only about 70 kg in full kit. Right, I'll bring a case of Heiniken.

[Kickaha]

Ha ha ha, naaaa, I'm only about 70 kg in full kit. Right, I'll bring a case of Heiniken.

70kg? you'll probably need to use the Heiniken for ballast

[tail_end_charlie]

70kg? you'll probably need to use the Heiniken for ballast

What?!? Naaaa, lighter weight = better acceleration. Way better than lugging around some huge 100kg oaf around.

[Kickaha]

Way better than lugging around some huge 100kg oaf around.

100kg? wait until you see the Pigster

[scrivy]

100kg? wait until you see the Pigster

Pot = Kettle..................... :shutup:

[Henk]

Exhausted after 3 slow laps?!?! Come on now, can't be that hard, right? :msn-wink:


I've never swung on a proper sidecar at a proper track, Hamster will be my first time, but 8 laps on the bucket chair round a kart track leaves me more crippled that a 30 lap race on the bucket. I can easily believe that I'm going to be crying like a girl after the first practice labour weekend.

[sidecar bob]

Ha ha ha, naaaa, I'm only about 70 kg in full kit. Right, I'll bring a case of Heiniken.

Chur Bro, if you bring a box of Heineys, Ill let you swing all day while I work on them!!

[jellywrestler]

I've never swung on a proper sidecar at a proper track, Hamster will be my first time, but 8 laps on the bucket chair round a kart track leaves me more crippled that a 30 lap race on the bucket. I can easily believe that I'm going to be crying like a girl after the first practice labour weekend.

I've had a swing or two on Sidecars and the hardest by far was on a bucket...

[wildman]

I've never swung on a proper sidecar at a proper track, Hamster will be my first time, but 8 laps on the bucket chair round a kart track leaves me more crippled that a 30 lap race on the bucket. I can easily believe that I'm going to be crying like a girl after the first practice labour weekend.

So you'll be keen to do Paeroa next year then:corn:

[Drew]

I've never swung on a proper sidecar at a proper track, Hamster will be my first time, but 8 laps on the bucket chair round a kart track leaves me more crippled that a 30 lap race on the bucket. I can easily believe that I'm going to be crying like a girl after the first practice labour weekend.First time swinging, my bro and I went out for a practice. Come back in after an out lap, flying lap, and the in lap because the front tyre was flat, (I didn't kick it hard enough as a pressure check Scriv), and Jimmy says. "That was good bro, was that six or seven laps"?

[nodrog]

Chur Bro, if you bring a box of Heineys, Ill let you swing all day while I work on them!!

Dont you like going around with me anymore? :-(

[scrivy]

I've had a swing or two on Sidecars and the hardest by far was on a bucket...

WTF??? Where does the rider sit? What deck do you sit on??? How do you check tyre pressures?? :shutup:

[scrivy]

Dont you like going around with me anymore? :-(

You're too fast for him now. He can't come to grips with the increased speed differential.
Plus he's just getting too friggin old to do this shit anymore.............. :corn:

[tail_end_charlie]

Chur Bro, if you bring a box of Heineys, Ill let you swing all day while I work on them!!

Ha ha ha, we'll just see how it goes. I might stumble off after the first session and never talk to you again........

[scrivy]

:woohoo: 1 week of no ice-cream, and I've dropped 1.3 kgs. Shit, by Hampster Up's I'll be as skinny as Gordy!!:woohoo:
(or half the weight of Bob...) :yes::love:

[scrivy]

Oh, hang about....... I had a dump this morning before I weighed myself...... :facepalm:

Alright, I haven't lost any weight.... as you were..... :pinch:

I'll get back to the ice-cream tonight then......

[Tony.OK]

Oh, hang about....... I had a dump this morning before I weighed myself...... :facepalm:

Alright, I haven't lost any weight.... as you were..... :pinch:

I'll get back to the ice-cream tonight then......
It only took 49 pages until ya's started talking proper shit!! :facepalm::laugh:

[Kornholio]

Shit, by Hampster Up's I'll be as skinny as Gordy!!:woohoo:
(or half the weight of Bob...) :yes::love:

Really? He's the only albino Ethiopian I know....

[scrivy]

Really? He's the only albino Ethiopian I know....

Is Gordy pissed there, or pretending to swing???

[scrivy]

Really? He's the only albino Ethiopian I know....

Actually, come to think of it, I don't think I was that skinny when I was born......... :laugh:

[Kornholio]

Actually, come to think of it, I don't think I was that skinny when I was born......... :laugh:

Gordon would have slithered out, the only thing that would have got in the way would have been his ears(oh and his willy... so Tina reckons) :blink:

[nodrog]

Is Gordy pissed there, or pretending to swing???

Havent you ever played horizontal Teken?

p.s. I think somebody may have spiked my Shirley Temple.

p.p.s I think I may have fallen off the pool table.

p.i.s.s I dont remember.

[scrivy]

Havent you ever played horizontal Teken?

p.s. I think somebody may have spiked my Shirley Temple.

p.p.s I think I may have fallen off the pool table.

p.i.s.s I dont remember.

I think you fell off the pool table impersonating Shirley Temple.......

[nodrog]

I think you fell off the pool table impersonating Shirley Temple.......

I have an inner ear balance problem, that doesnt go well with my drinking problem.

[Kickaha]

just as an after thought I'll put something sidecar racing related up


Michael Dunlop has just confirmed that in addition to his Solo entries in this weekend’s Steve Henshaw International Gold Cup at Oliver’s Mount, Scarborough, he will be making his first competitive outing in a Sidecar outfit.

The current Southern 100 Solo Champion, had originally intended to compete at an earlier meeting at Oliver’s Mount this year, but this fell through due to his late solo commitments.

Race organiser, Peter Hillaby has confirmed that the sidecar outfit, owned by outright sidecar lap record holder around the 2.43-mile North Yorkshire course, since 2008, Nick Crowe will be preparing the machine for Michael to race on Saturday and Sunday.

Michael's passenger will be Dan Sayle.


http://youtu.be/2b-5Qrzx1pY
The passenger going over the front is quite impressive

[Fast Eddie]

so surely on your order sheet you wrote down the measurements or the signwriter did in front of you? how then can it go wrong and why did you even hand over said money?

cause i wanted to get bike done before it was picked up for barry sheene.

yes i wrote down measurements and he wrote them down too. how he got it wrong i dunno (edit we figured it out.. they did 140mm from top of T to bottom of g instead of from top to bottom of T (Team Agip)

anyway.. looks mint. photos coming..

handed over said money because thats how it works.. i ordered these tricky to make stickers on the condition i actually buy em or no one would have bothered trying. its tricker than one thinks to get these stickers done up. very few source images and no source image for Team Agip.. had to get it made up from scratch

[Fast Eddie]

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[Fast Eddie]

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ok, in the car and bk t dunners fr me

[scrivy]

ok, in the car and bk t dunners fr me

Fark dude!! Looks mint!! Brings back memories from 20 years ago!! :woohoo:

[sidecar bob]

Awesome mate, that looks very tidy.
Scrivy, it was a bit more than 20 years ago.

[scrivy]

The passenger going over the front is quite impressive

Speaking from experience..... :shutup:
Or a premenition for Hampster ups?? :shifty:

[scrivy]

Awesome mate, that looks very tidy.
Scrivy, it was a bit more than 20 years ago.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..............
You're giving away our age now ya bastard!!

[nodrog]

i just need a couple of stickers and im good to go!

[scrivy]

i just need a couple of stickers and im good to go!

You all ready bro?? Pictures or it isn't ready!!

[Kickaha]

Speaking from experience..... :shutup:
Or a premenition for Hampster ups?? :shifty:

Fuck off you knob

Excellent job Kai, looks fucking mint

[Grumph]

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ok, in the car and bk t dunners fr me

Looking very good - deja vue time...

Gotta ask, does Mo know you're doing this ? I've never, ever, heard him be complimentary about any of his old outfits. He seems to work on the basis that the current or most recent build is the last word and all the others are now shit.....and that one and it's owners gave him a fair amount of grief at the time. i'm curious to see his reaction to someone thinking one of his is worth restoring....

[Fast Eddie]

Excellent job Kai, looks fucking mint
Cheers bro :) the front stickers on the nose got a bit creased.. i was doing it by myself in the wind and it got away on me.. couldn't save em. doesn't show up in photos. still looks neat tho hehe


Awesome mate, that looks very tidy.
. Cheers bro, Biketranz grab it 9am tmoro hopefully.


Fark dude!! Looks mint!! Brings back memories from 20 years ago!! :woohoo: :D cheers brother, I love it. sadly I mucked up the frnt stickers, they got all creased. oh well, next time will be better. can prob rip em off and try again with new stickers in same spot with someone helping.


Looking very good - deja vue time...

Gotta ask, does Mo know you're doing this ? I've never, ever, heard him be complimentary about any of his old outfits. He seems to work on the basis that the current or most recent build is the last word and all the others are now shit.....and that one and it's owners gave him a fair amount of grief at the time. i'm curious to see his reaction to someone thinking one of his is worth restoring....
Thanks Grumph :)

- Nah I doubt Mo knows I've done this/doing this.. I wouldn't know how to get a hold of him or anything, and like you say - he may not care at all haha! maybe he will see it one day or find out about it :)
Vince Steur said he might be at the Barry Sheene/Hampton Downs though so hopefully he comes over for a look.

[Grumph]

Mo's still in Richmond, Nelson. He moved a while back so i don't have a number now but the pub at lunchime will find him...

The annual outing to the GP at Ruapuna seems to be his only trip outside Nelson now. I must come along on the Friday to see his reaction....

Maybe it should be a formal thing...all the guys who know him at an unveiling ?

[Henk]

Looks bloody mint. I wouldn't get too worried about a sticker that is a bit wobbly, most people are only going to see it from a distance and at speed anyway. Excellent job, can't wait to see it in the flesh.

[Kickaha]

Vince Steur said he might be at the Barry Sheene/Hampton Downs though so hopefully he comes over for a look.
You should ask him for a loan of the AGIP leathers

[jellywrestler]

You should ask him for a loan of the AGIP leathers
fuck that, would you let anyone you know get in those! David Attenborough could do a Doco series on what probably lives and has lived in those...

[nodrog]

You all ready bro?? Pictures or it isn't ready!!

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[sidecar bob]

You should ask him for a loan of the AGIP leathers

Yeah, because you would only need one set then.
Eddie, Take another look at that old clip that ends with the Scrivy crash (I had nothing to do with it) & see the deck extension on the Agip outfit that extends behind the rear wheel. For some reason it has been removed over the years & I wonder if it should be re fitted.
It seemed to work quite well & I dont think you will find another passenger anywhere, that got as far right & as far left as Vince did, he was an extremely comitted passenger.
The thing is, that people buy a NZ title winner, as was the case with the Agip outfit, & then think they can make it faster with some hair brained mods, in their first ever year on sidecars.
I suspect it stems from people thinking that they should be faster than they are & blaming the equipment, before they even begin to grasp the basics of how it all works.