Sidecar Racing

[sidecar bob]

They swear it's the only real class of racing. I like to fuck them off though. Wish I could do it with results, I ride the things all wrong.

What? Like someone that's riding for giggles, rather than treating it like a Moto GP audition.

[Drew]

What? Like someone that's riding for giggles, rather than treating it like a Moto GP audition.

Na, like I can't ride them to save myself...and that makes it good for a giggle.

[Kickaha]

They swear it's the only real class of racing.
You mean there's others?

[nodrog]

Na, like I can't ride them to save myself...and that makes it good for a giggle.

Turn the throttle, go forwards, sounds pretty fuckin technical.

[Kickaha]

Turn the throttle, go forwards, sounds pretty fuckin technical.

I'll lend you my bucket for BOB and we'll see how you go

[nodrog]

I'll lend you my bucket for BOB and we'll see how you go

What is BOB?

[Kickaha]

What is BOB?

Battle of the Buckets 55minutes + 1 lap main race

[nodrog]

Battle of the Buckets 55minutes + 1 lap main race

Where is it?

[Kickaha]

Where is it?

Ruapuna B Track 17th October, just deciding if I want to ride it and risk fucking myself up before the Shorai

http://www.racingcircuits.info/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/Ruapuna-Park-B-93.77a040104f4ae35ee34e5a02aed31463.png

[jellywrestler]

Container from the uk for Wanaganui/tri s series Any contact for some one to talk with about potentuall space in for another race unit?

i'd start with Flea Willacy, you'll need a time machine though, the tri series hasn't run since 2012, it's been called the Suzuki Series for a couple of years and i think the container left the UK four days ago, but check with him.

[Kickaha]

Just loaded and getting ready to head off to King of Ruapuna, looks like it'll be some wet racing today

[Kickaha]

King of Levels Rd 4, 12/09/15

Once again Pete and Matt from Independent line services came to the rescue and gave us a trailer to cart all the gear down there so were loaded and ready to go the night before
We didn’t have the -5 degree temps or the rain of we’d experienced at the two previous rounds when we arrived which made it a bit more pleasant at the track
Practice

We’d been looking at a couple of areas on the track to concentrate on with one being braking off the end of the back straight and started going in a little deeper each lap and trying to find a better way into the decreasing radius

It was all feeling pretty good but with Alex/Andy there we knew it’d be hard work for us to get a win

Race 1

Our starts have got pretty good and we make turn one in the lead, I can hear what I assume is Alex/Andy behind us and sure enough down the straight they poke a nose up the inside and then let us have the corner

Over the next few laps they torment us a bit by showing the nose on the inside, outside and pretty much anywhere they damn well please on the track to let us know they’re there
A lap to go and they pull the pin and pass us and start pulling away to take the win

We don’t have too much to do between races but give it a look over, check the gas and get ready for the next one

Alex suggests a handicap race so we promote new guys James/Hayley up to P1 with Goober/Matt alongside and we go off 3 with Alex/Andy off 4

Race 2

Goober/Matt and James/Hayley launch and we let them get out of sight before we leave the line

Alex/Andy gives us until half way around the sweeper onto the back straight before they go after us

Lap 2 and we catch and pass James/Hayley and set off after Goober/Matt and a lap later we pull alongside under brakes into turn 4 then let them back in front
A lap later I’m regretting giving it to them when I duff a corner and let them get more of a lead than I wanted but we close them back down over the rest of the lap and with the white flag out and a lap to go we’re running out of options to get by

We’re right on the back of their tray into T6 decreasing radius and looking to make a move when Alex/Andy blow past us around the outside blocking us in and pretty much cut Goober/Matt’s nose off into the next corner

I have a half arsed attempt into the hairpin but don’t really have the room to pull it off and we finish 3rd with Alex/Andy taking the win and Goober/Matt 2nd

Race 3

We run the same handicap, although Alex decides he’ll give us a slightly less as he was close to not making it to the front in the last one
Goober/Matt deicide to play about with James/ Hayley and we catch them both on lap 2

We come onto the straight and can see them a wee way ahead and are rapidly running them down but there doesn’t look to be enough room to get by while they’re running side by side
Just before the 200 metre mark they move slightly apart and there’s a gap through the middle we take and pass them both

I can’t hear Alex/Andy behind us and with the white flag out and a lap to go think we might have a chance

Off the end of the straight they still haven’t come past us but that soon changes as he goes down the outside and cuts across in front to take T5
We can’t hold the same speed through T6 and he pulls a couple of lengths on us, we gain a little back into the hairpin but not enough to make a challenge and we finish 2nd with Alex/Andy 1st , Goober/Matt 3rd and Hayley/James 4th

That gives us enough points to take the win for King of Levels which was run 3 rounds with Alex/Andy and James/Hayley taking the next two spots

Thanks to
Joanne van der Westhuizen @ Career Success - www.careersuccess.co.nz
Pete and Matt @ http://www.independentlines.com/
Scott McCone @ http://prometal.co.nz/

[jellywrestler]

Andy Kippen pulled the 'broken' rear hub of his outfit today, hasn't been touched since last raced in 1995 and found it wasn't a broken hub, but just a rod end. he's now looking for a different disc to fit, as that was on the upgrade list......

[scrivy]

Andy Kippen pulled the 'broken' rear hub of his outfit today, hasn't been touched since last raced in 1995 and found it wasn't a broken hub, but just a rod end. he's now looking for a different disc to fit, as that was on the upgrade list......

Is he going to race it again Spyda?

[Shaun Harris]

Is he going to race it again Spyda?



That would be cool to see

[sidecar bob]

Andy Kippen pulled the 'broken' rear hub of his outfit today, hasn't been touched since last raced in 1995 and found it wasn't a broken hub, but just a rod end. he's now looking for a different disc to fit, as that was on the upgrade list......

It must come as an exhibit to the Barry Shorai.

[jellywrestler]

Is he going to race it again Spyda?
don't think that's on the list, but at least get it on it's wheels, apart from the rear hub issue he lent his hot cylinder head to colin brewer who never returned it, so that's got to be sorted.


It must come as an exhibit to the Barry Shorai.
he's only in the country occasionally, and lots to do to get it presentable again, don't really know who'd bother carting it all that way to put on display.

[scrivy]

he lent his hot cylinder head to colin brewer who never returned it, so that's got to be sorted.


It'll be cold by now, surely.......

[Drew]

What's it powered with?

[merv]

Is this the one Spyda?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jorvikiwi/6148158003

[merv]

While looking for pics of Andy's sidecar I found this lot of pics of a lot of NZ history - very cool. Even that fellah Shaun Harris features on a 250.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jorvikiwi/sets/72157616567897336/

[jellywrestler]

Is this the one Spyda?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jorvikiwi/6148158003

yip, it's as it last raced in 1995, not many top level bikes around like that sadly.

[Drew]

yip, it's as it last raced in 1995, not many top level bikes around like that sadly.

Broken and in a shed. Heaps of chairs suffer that fate.

[nodrog]

Broken and in a shed. Heaps of chairs suffer that fate.

in a shed? that's flash, I found one under a tree.

[scrivy]

I found one under a tree.
SO IT WAS ROOTED THEN??

:eek5:

[nodrog]

SO IT WAS ROOTED THEN??

:eek5:

contain yourself.

[jellywrestler]

Broken and in a shed. Heaps of chairs suffer that fate.

not entirely, it was the first rivetted monocoque in nz, andy had won three championships on it, it's dimensions were outdated not being long enough in the front and it's chassis was tired, so many other people had sold their rigs and people had chopped them around i don't think he wanted to see his baby suffer the same fate. he'd put a lot of time and money into it over the years.
he liver abroad and the effort to come back here and race was not want he wanted to put into it anymore.

[sidecar bob]

Just heard that Terry Windle died.
A very talented chap that built some beautiful gear.
My dream sidecar, a short Windle with a Krauser 500 in it.

[Grumph]

Just heard that Terry Windle died.
A very talented chap that built some beautiful gear.
My dream sidecar, a short Windle with a Krauser 500 in it.

That must have been sudden, he was profiled recently in Classic Racer and was reportedly very busy.
Yes, very interesting guy, I'd have liked to meet him, very sad.

[sidecar bob]

Spyda, would these be any help,to Andy? I know it was a GPZ900 engine, but same basic unit.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/engine-components/auction-953145112.htm
This is the same bloke gordie got the ex Colin Hooper outfit off that now belongs to Rick.

[Kickaha]

Cool camera, you can scroll 360 degrees during the race, using the top left button


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMlFWeZLLxc

[Grumph]

Spyda, would these be any help,to Andy? I know it was a GPZ900 engine, but same basic unit.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/engine-components/auction-953145112.htm
This is the same bloke gordie got the ex Colin Hooper outfit off that now belongs to Rick.

i don't recognise the yellow cover but remember the blue one...I doubt if they will be of use as i think he's set up for the horizontal inlet head in that chair.Which means either a 900 head or the GPZ1000 horizontal inlet one.

[sidecar bob]

Cool camera, you can scroll 360 degrees during the race, using the top left button



That's the longest left hander I've ever seen, it hurts my brain.

[sidecar bob]

Road sidecars & foreign language, but some serious art amongst it all the same.
Start at the last page & work backwards as some of the earlier images have expired.
http://forum.wild-motorcycles.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6061&start=495

[jellywrestler]

Spyda, would these be any help,to Andy? I know it was a GPZ900 engine, but same basic unit.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/engine-components/auction-953145112.htm
This is the same bloke gordie got the ex Colin Hooper outfit off that now belongs to Rick.

zx10 actually, at one stage he brought a new zzr1100 motor but didn't use it. andy actually collects zx10's so has more motor stuff than cycle parts, the biggest thing is time, he only comes over occasionally and has other shit to do, there is no need to get it going, if there was an event where it would fit in then that might move it up the priority list...

[sidecar bob]

zx10 actually, at one stage he brought a new zzr1100 motor but didn't use it. andy actually collects zx10's so has more motor stuff than cycle parts, the biggest thing is time, he only comes over occasionally and has other shit to do, there is no need to get it going, if there was an event where it would fit in then that might move it up the priority list...

You know I really like tidying up old race machinery don't you?

[jellywrestler]

You know I really like tidying up old race machinery don't you?

me too but i think he wants to do it himself

[wildman]

zx10 actually, at one stage he brought a new zzr1100 motor but didn't use it. andy actually collects zx10's so has more motor stuff than cycle parts, the biggest thing is time, he only comes over occasionally and has other shit to do, there is no need to get it going, if there was an event where it would fit in then that might move it up the priority list...

Would be cool to see it out running against the Agip bike. Speaking of which Agip bike will be back in Auckland monday afternoon then start stripping it down to clean up chassis and repaint bodywork again [ looking a bit second hand again at the moment ] Vince also gave me the low down on how to make it a 6 speed gearbox again. Colin Buckley told me the original yamaha motor out of it was what he used when at Bathurst in 2000

[Kickaha]

Vince also gave me the low down on how to make it a 6 speed gearbox again.
750 gearbox, it was a common mod

[Drew]

750 gearbox, it was a common mod

Someone told me ya gotta make sure to change the selector rod too. But it all goes straight in.

[wildman]

Someone told me ya gotta make sure to change the selector rod too. But it all goes straight in.

yep also have to change the spray bar as well

[Grumph]

Would be cool to see it out running against the Agip bike. Speaking of which Agip bike will be back in Auckland monday afternoon then start stripping it down to clean up chassis and repaint bodywork again [ looking a bit second hand again at the moment ] Vince also gave me the low down on how to make it a 6 speed gearbox again. Colin Buckley told me the original yamaha motor out of it was what he used when at Bathurst in 2000

If you pull the top off the motor, FFS mark where the cams are - it's not stock.
Also mark which cam bearing goes where as it's been f'd up previously - don't change them round as i'm pretty sure i had to hone them as sets cos it'd picked up in the journals.

[Kickaha]

Just spent a couple of hours pulling bits off the LCR, getting ready for an engine change and fixing a few little bits an pieces before we head up to HD

It's been a pig to start and hopefully the broken wire to the airbox sensor is the cause of that. I wont mention the water temp wasn't even plugged in

Need a helicoil in the rear hub where the sprocket bolts on, replace the rod end that cant be done unless the engine is out, new brake pads and change the fluids, new chain and change the gearing to suit the smaller OD Yokohamas

I also need to tidy up the catch tray a little bit and sort some exhaust leaks, get Pig to finish the new handlebars and maybe fit a longer pull throttle,pull the sidehub apart and replace the wheel bearings and the top rose joint there as well

[jellywrestler]

Would be cool to see it out running against the Agip bike. Speaking of which Agip bike will be back in Auckland monday afternoon then start stripping it down to clean up chassis and repaint bodywork again [ looking a bit second hand again at the moment ] Vince also gave me the low down on how to make it a 6 speed gearbox again. Colin Buckley told me the original yamaha motor out of it was what he used when at Bathurst in 2000

don't think it will be out in the near future, being a rivetted bike and having down around six seasons at the front of the pack it's pretty tired chassis wise, it's alos andy's bike and he's got other things in his life to do but if we can get this rear end sorted, finding and mounting a new disc, repalce the cracked front one, a cylinder head then when he chooses to do something we a hole chunk closer

[nodrog]

Just spent a couple of hours pulling bits off the LCR, getting ready for an engine change and fixing a few little bits an pieces before we head up to HD

It's been a pig to start and hopefully the broken wire to the airbox sensor is the cause of that. I wont mention the water temp wasn't even plugged in

Need a helicoil in the rear hub where the sprocket bolts on, replace the rod end that cant be done unless the engine is out, new brake pads and change the fluids, new chain and change the gearing to suit the smaller OD Yokohamas

I also need to tidy up the catch tray a little bit and sort some exhaust leaks, get Pig to finish the new handlebars and maybe fit a longer pull throttle,pull the sidehub apart and replace the wheel bearings and the top rose joint there as well

fuck that's sounds like of hard work to me.

[sidecar bob]

fuck that's sounds like of hard work to me.

Absolutely, didn't the factory put them together properly?

[Kickaha]

fuck that's sounds like of hard work to me.
Nah Louis makes them fairly easy to work on

Absolutely, didn't the factory put them together properly?
More likely the munter that currently owns it

[Kickaha]

King of Ruapuna Rd 2

After not having enough of us for the first round this would be the first sidecar round Alex decides to stay in bed as the weather is a bit crap and Goober sounds none too keen to be going to it either

Regardless of the rain we head out and get set up and it is looking pretty dismal, Graeme turns up after not being out for a year which makes 4

Practice

It seems to start raining heavier as we line up and doesn’t get any better once we’re out there, it seems very slippery and we’re locking the rear brake when I try standing on it hard

James/Hayley go past us and I follow them down into T1 and we pass them under brakes, next lap they go past again and we go up the inside on the exit to T1 and pass them on the run down to pothole

Goober has newcomer Jessie out for a couple of laps before swapping back to Matt for another couple

Practice over and we’re pretty much cold wet and miserable but get the bike checked over and ready for race 1

James/Hayley have taken the top spot with me and Will on P2, Goober/Jessie on P3 and Graeme/ring in on P4

Race 1

We dial in about half the revs we normally would and get off the line fairly good and lead down into T1

The next few laps I can hear James/Hayley behind us, we’ve kept a bit in reserve and are running a fairly comfortable pace

I can see Goober/Jessie as we come around the hairpin slowly gaining on us but we have plenty of gap back to them

James/Hayley get a good run onto the straight and pass us, we chase them down into T1

They run out a bit wide on the exit and we pull past down into Pothole, we give the kerb a bit of a smack with the chair wheel and get loose on the exit and I just about expect James/Hayley to make it back in front and I can hear them right behind us at the hairpin but once we turn into the dipper I know we’ve got it in the bag and run home 1st with James/Hayley 2nd and Goober/Jessie 3rd

We’re checking the track and see it’s drying out so we swap back to slicks, Goober leaves his wets on because it takes him 2 ½ weeks to change the rear

Race 2

We get a good start and make T1 in front, the bikes developed a miss until the revs get up and it’s not long before Goober makes it past
The next few laps we run nose to tail, he drags out an extra few lengths off each corner while we make it back up under brakes
Down the straight he pulls away about 4 -5 lengths and we get right back behind him off the end and then lose another couple of lengths punching off T1 and then make it back up again into the hairpin and stick with him through the infield

We can’t quite get close enough to think about making a pass and he leads us over the line

Goober/Matt 1st, Warwick/Will 2nd, James/Hayley 3rd

We give the bike a look over and Will finds a loose plug cap and we check the plug which is looking a bit dodgy so we replace it

Race 3

Our best start for the day and we run down into T1 a bit hotter than usual, a lap later I can hear a bike behind us and as we exit Carousel Goober/Matt have the drive and move past us on the inside into the next right

We’re alongside but they have the line and we have to back out, we follow around through onto the straight and now with the bike running right we’re right behind them into T1
Goober/Matt like a wide line into it and we hold it a bit tighter, there’s a puff of smoke as Goober/Matt lock the chair wheel and then we’re on the brakes hard and making a move on the inside of them

We go in a bit deeper than I’d like and it cuts out exit speed, there’s a flash of red and White on the inside down to pothole but we don’t back out and are first through it, I take a defensive line into the hairpin so they have to go around us and as we’re turning in they’re trying to make an outside pass

We exit the hairpin and I’m gassing it up hard and the back breaks loose and flick sideways, I have to back out of the throttle for a fraction and that’s enough of a pause for Goober/Matt to outrun us into the next right

I start to go back up the inside and think better of it when Goober cuts across the nose, we’re on the last lap with not to many chances left, through the s bends and into Carousel , we run out a bit wide intending to turn in tighter and try and get back up the inside when it all turns to custard and we spin 270 degrees

A quick check to make sure Will is still on the side and we get turned around and set off again, we have a big enough gap back to third we don’t lose a spot but that give Goober/Matt a unchallenged run to the flag

Goober/Matt 1st, Warwick/Will 2nd, James/Hayley 3rd

Considering how cold and crap it is, a great days racing with some good close dicing between us
Now we’ve got a bit of a strip down, engine change, new brake pads, new chain and a few other bits to do before we head North for the Shorai at Labour weekend

Thanks to
Joanne van der Westhuizen @ Career Success - www.careersuccess.co.nz
Pete and Matt @ http://www.independentlines.com/
Scott McCone @ http://prometal.co.nz/

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[wildman]

Agip bike arrived in Auckland this week and have started stripping it for full rebuild, chassis goes to painters as soon as it's completely stripped. Will be back to original red colour.

[Shaun Harris]

King of Ruapuna Rd 2

After not having enough of us for the first round this would be the first sidecar round Alex decides to stay in bed as the weather is a bit crap and Goober sounds none too keen to be going to it either

Regardless of the rain we head out and get set up and it is looking pretty dismal, Graeme turns up after not being out for a year which makes 4

Practice

It seems to start raining heavier as we line up and doesn’t get any better once we’re out there, it seems very slippery and we’re locking the rear brake when I try standing on it hard

James/Hayley go past us and I follow them down into T1 and we pass them under brakes, next lap they go past again and we go up the inside on the exit to T1 and pass them on the run down to pothole

Goober has newcomer Jessie out for a couple of laps before swapping back to Matt for another couple

Practice over and we’re pretty much cold wet and miserable but get the bike checked over and ready for race 1

James/Hayley have taken the top spot with me and Will on P2, Goober/Jessie on P3 and Graeme/ring in on P4

Race 1

We dial in about half the revs we normally would and get off the line fairly good and lead down into T1

The next few laps I can hear James/Hayley behind us, we’ve kept a bit in reserve and are running a fairly comfortable pace

I can see Goober/Jessie as we come around the hairpin slowly gaining on us but we have plenty of gap back to them

James/Hayley get a good run onto the straight and pass us, we chase them down into T1

They run out a bit wide on the exit and we pull past down into Pothole, we give the kerb a bit of a smack with the chair wheel and get loose on the exit and I just about expect James/Hayley to make it back in front and I can hear them right behind us at the hairpin but once we turn into the dipper I know we’ve got it in the bag and run home 1st with James/Hayley 2nd and Goober/Jessie 3rd

We’re checking the track and see it’s drying out so we swap back to slicks, Goober leaves his wets on because it takes him 2 ½ weeks to change the rear

Race 2

We get a good start and make T1 in front, the bikes developed a miss until the revs get up and it’s not long before Goober makes it past
The next few laps we run nose to tail, he drags out an extra few lengths off each corner while we make it back up under brakes
Down the straight he pulls away about 4 -5 lengths and we get right back behind him off the end and then lose another couple of lengths punching off T1 and then make it back up again into the hairpin and stick with him through the infield

We can’t quite get close enough to think about making a pass and he leads us over the line

Goober/Matt 1st, Warwick/Will 2nd, James/Hayley 3rd

We give the bike a look over and Will finds a loose plug cap and we check the plug which is looking a bit dodgy so we replace it

Race 3

Our best start for the day and we run down into T1 a bit hotter than usual, a lap later I can hear a bike behind us and as we exit Carousel Goober/Matt have the drive and move past us on the inside into the next right

We’re alongside but they have the line and we have to back out, we follow around through onto the straight and now with the bike running right we’re right behind them into T1
Goober/Matt like a wide line into it and we hold it a bit tighter, there’s a puff of smoke as Goober/Matt lock the chair wheel and then we’re on the brakes hard and making a move on the inside of them

We go in a bit deeper than I’d like and it cuts out exit speed, there’s a flash of red and White on the inside down to pothole but we don’t back out and are first through it, I take a defensive line into the hairpin so they have to go around us and as we’re turning in they’re trying to make an outside pass

We exit the hairpin and I’m gassing it up hard and the back breaks loose and flick sideways, I have to back out of the throttle for a fraction and that’s enough of a pause for Goober/Matt to outrun us into the next right

I start to go back up the inside and think better of it when Goober cuts across the nose, we’re on the last lap with not to many chances left, through the s bends and into Carousel , we run out a bit wide intending to turn in tighter and try and get back up the inside when it all turns to custard and we spin 270 degrees

A quick check to make sure Will is still on the side and we get turned around and set off again, we have a big enough gap back to third we don’t lose a spot but that give Goober/Matt a unchallenged run to the flag

Goober/Matt 1st, Warwick/Will 2nd, James/Hayley 3rd

Considering how cold and crap it is, a great days racing with some good close dicing between us
Now we’ve got a bit of a strip down, engine change, new brake pads, new chain and a few other bits to do before we head North for the Shorai at Labour weekend

Thanks to
Joanne van der Westhuizen @ Career Success - www.careersuccess.co.nz
Pete and Matt @ http://www.independentlines.com/
Scott McCone @ http://prometal.co.nz/

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Fuk you type a load of shit

[Drew]

Fuk you type a load of shit

You are the expert.

[nodrog]

Agip bike arrived in Auckland this week and have started stripping it for full rebuild, chassis goes to painters as soon as it's completely stripped. Will be back to original red colour.

when are you going to race it?

[Shaun Harris]

when are you going to race it?



would be cool to see the old girl back out there

[onearmedbandit]

You are the expert.

Ba-dom tsssshhh.

[wildman]

when are you going to race it?

With work commitments and fitting it in with other things Paeroa next year will be it's first outing after rebuild, Kai will be riding it but still looking for a swinger if anyone is keen

[Kickaha]

would be cool to see the old girl back out there
It has been back out there racing for the last few years, you need to get out more


Kai will be riding it but still looking for a swinger if anyone is keen
I doubt Kai will have the three licence signings he needs to be able to

[Drew]

I doubt Kai will have the three licence signings he needs to be able to

He can get the road race commissioner to give permission to ride the streets.

[nodrog]

He can get the road race commissioner to give permission to ride the streets.

If he's lucky, its getting harder to get a dispensation for a road circuit.

[Drew]

If he's lucky, its getting harder to get a dispensation for a road circuit.

He's raced Wanganui before, and done quite a few meetings down south. I don't imagine it will be too hard. We're going to need dispensation for Wanganui.

[nodrog]

He's raced Wanganui before, and done quite a few meetings down south. I don't imagine it will be too hard. We're going to need dispensation for Wanganui.

I'd suggest you try and sort it out now, rather than on the day.

[Grumph]

I'd suggest you try and sort it out now, rather than on the day.

Highly recommended - down here dispensations will be hard to get as at one meeting I'm told most of those given one, crashed.....

[Shaun Harris]

Agreed with both posts above. The new safety laws are making things like this harder to do these days

[nodrog]

fuck don't listen to me, I'm a dumb cunt.

[sidecar bob]

I wouldn't even waste my time travelling up to Wanganui / Paeroa without three stamps.
They are that worried about someone fucking it up & the whole event being canned forever as a result that he wouldn't get a look in.
Make sure he knows that, because I wouldn't be able to stand him snivelling about the place that he travelled all that way & nobody bent the rules for him.
Its not like he's some kind of ex multiple NZ champ, he's just a nobody that rides a sidecar, so why would they treat him special?
I have seen him crash completely of his own doing too.

[Shaun Harris]

fuck don't listen to me, I'm a dumb cunt. I didn't, I read ya man

[Drew]

Hmmmm, might not write the Shorai off just yet then.

[Kickaha]

fuck don't listen to me, I'm a dumb cunt.

I don't and you are

[nodrog]

I don't and you are

life is like a box of chocolates....

[jellywrestler]

life is like a box of chocolates....

i remember a chcik in palmy who was a bit of a mattress back, they call her cadburys as she always had a box full of mixed creams...

[Shaun Harris]

i remember a chcik in palmy who was a bit of a mattress back, they call her cadburys as she always had a box full of mixed creams...


sounds familliar, I may have left a deposit there

[Drew]

My cousin had a girlfriend called Coral-Lee. He called her meadowlea though, because she spreads easy.

[Shaun Harris]

My cousin had a girlfriend called Coral-Lee. He called her meadowlea though, because she spreads easy.


when are you intending on having this finished to do some testing

[sidecar bob]

when are you intending on having this finished to do some testing

You might have to explain what that last word means.

[Shaun Harris]

You might have to explain what that last word means.



it means, will Drew stay mentally stable enough or not

[Drew]

when are you intending on having this finished to do some testing
I think you're confused about which thread this is.

We will have it together before the Shorai, but won't have it tested. So not gonna risk that. So test soon, and race the circuit meetings of the Suzuki series. Make a phone call after that to find out if we can do the cemetery.

[swarfie]

I think you're confused about which thread this is.

We will have it together before the Shorai, but won't have it tested. So not gonna risk that. So test soon, and race the circuit meetings of the Suzuki series. Make a phone call after that to find out if we can do the cemetery.

That's a bit disturbing Drew....you're actually starting to make sense :laugh::niceone:

[Drew]

That's a bit disturbing Drew....you're actually starting to make sense :laugh::niceone:

You should seek help, if I've started making sense Nev.

[Kickaha]

We will have it together before the Shorai, but won't have it tested. So not gonna risk that. So test soon, and race the circuit meetings of the Suzuki series. Make a phone call after that to find out if we can do the cemetery.

KOR Nov 22 will get you another one


That's a bit disturbing Drew....you're actually starting to make sense :laugh::niceone:

And sound somewhat responsible

[Shaun Harris]

I think you're confused about which thread this is.

We will have it together before the Shorai, but won't have it tested. So not gonna risk that. So test soon, and race the circuit meetings of the Suzuki series. Make a phone call after that to find out if we can do the cemetery.



May I suggest an earlier call than that, to let them know your intensions, it may work in your favour man, as I can bugger all people getting special start permission for wanganui, with all the inters coming, and the new push on osh and safety as such. Maybe even call Greg P first, to get his opinion. Hope it all works for ya's. I know aht not racing does to us head cases lol. YEP, Im fukin off now

[Kickaha]

Well after a fucking shit start to the week when we thought we might not make HD things see to have turned around a bit, Van will be sorted by end of next week, sign writing being done tomorrow, bike should be back together with a few little improvements by the end of next week, it's starting to look a bit more positive

It hasn't gone so well for Goober though, after pulling to motor to fix a transmission problem they found a munted big end and crank so are on the hunt for another 05 R1 motor and have pretty much pulled the pin on doing it

It's not all bad though, they're still flying up to grace us with their presence so at least I'll have some pit bitches

[sidecar bob]

It's not all bad though, they're still flying up to grace us with their presence so at least I'll have some pit bitches

You're going to be the envy of the entire paddock with those pricks "helping" you.

[wildman]

Well after a fucking shit start to the week when we thought we might not make HD things see to have turned around a bit, Van will be sorted by end of next week, sign writing being done tomorrow, bike should be back together with a few little improvements by the end of next week, it's starting to look a bit more positive

It hasn't gone so well for Goober though, after pulling to motor to fix a transmission problem they found a munted big end and crank so are on the hunt for another 05 R1 motor and have pretty much pulled the pin on doing it

It's not all bad though, they're still flying up to grace us with their presence so at least I'll have some pit bitches

Gee South Islanders seem to be hard on R1 motors, has Kai got his going yet?

[Grumph]

Well after a fucking shit start to the week when we thought we might not make HD things see to have turned around a bit, Van will be sorted by end of next week, sign writing being done tomorrow, bike should be back together with a few little improvements by the end of next week, it's starting to look a bit more positive

It hasn't gone so well for Goober though, after pulling to motor to fix a transmission problem they found a munted big end and crank so are on the hunt for another 05 R1 motor and have pretty much pulled the pin on doing it

It's not all bad though, they're still flying up to grace us with their presence so at least I'll have some pit bitches

Tell them to go and see Glen Durie Engine reconditioners. There's a customer R1 engine which has dropped a valve sitting there which can be bought for parts.
It's from a speedway Mini Sprint. I asked on Kai's behalf a while ago but also found one on trademe for him which he bought....

[Kickaha]

Tell them to go and see Glen Durie Engine reconditioners. There's a customer R1 engine which has dropped a valve sitting there which can be bought for parts.
It's from a speedway Mini Sprint. I asked on Kai's behalf a while ago but also found one on trademe for him which he bought....

What year? their motor is 05, which is a different generation motor than the one Kai has

[nodrog]

What year? their motor is 05, which is a different generation motor than the one Kai has

The year that goes.

[Drew]

The year that goes.

Not too well with a dropped valve, one would think.

[Kickaha]

Right seeing as those dicks are no longer bringing their sidecar up, I have a spare spot in the pit shed $200 for the three days to cover it, I only want one other sidecar in it

[nodrog]

Not too well with a dropped valve, one would think.

Better than a brokded crank.


Right seeing as those dicks are no longer bringing their sidecar up, I have a spare spot in the pit shed $200 for the three days to cover it, I only want one other sidecar in it

You could just sponsor me it.

[Kickaha]

You could just sponsor me it.

You can have it from 4pm on the Monday

[Grumph]

What year? their motor is 05, which is a different generation motor than the one Kai has

All I know is that it's 4 valve and pre crossplane....Are they not capable of ringing Glen and asking ? I'm certainly not following up on it.
The owner has no further use for it and it may well be pretty cheap....

[nodrog]

You can have it from 4pm on the Monday

Anybody called you a cunt today?

[Kickaha]

Anybody called you a cunt today?

At least two of my staff

[Shaun Harris]

well I saw 1 nth Island chair on the track at Manfeild yesterday

[mr bucketracer]

well I saw 1 nth Island chair on the track at Manfeild yesterdaydid the rest have oil leaks (-::msn-wink:

[Shaun Harris]

did the rest have oil leaks (-::msn-wink:




haha Nah, that was a bike again yesterday which threw a leg out bed on the poor bugger, it was no real issue though, apart to the guys motor and wallet.

[nodrog]

well I saw 1 nth Island chair on the track at Manfeild yesterday

is it a secret who it was?

[Shaun Harris]

is it a secret who it was?



Adan an Stu and team

[Kickaha]

Just finished putting the rear upright back in with some new rod ends, fitted the sprocket carrier, new brake pads in, just need to get a chain during the week, just tossing up if we convert to 520 or stay with 530 and put the motor back in it and we should be firing it up next weekend

[Drew]

I like to go 520 on bikes, but they'd wear pretty quick on a chair methinks.

[Kickaha]

I like to go 520 on bikes, but they'd wear pretty quick on a chair methinks.

The UK guys I know use it, the shorter life might be evened out by being slightly cheaper, fucking expensive for good 530 anyway

[Shaun Harris]

The UK guys I know use it, the shorter life might be evened out by being slightly cheaper, fucking expensive for good 530 anyway


520 will not last as long as the 530, but will give you a HP or 3, and that is about it. I watched a 125 team in japan dyno a bike with a chain that had done 1 race only, then they threw on a new one, and gained 1.2 peak HP

[Kickaha]

520 will not last as long as the 530, but will give you a HP or 3, and that is about it.

I wouldn't even notice it

Just ordered a good 530 online as I found a place having a special, think thats the last bit I need to finish the bike

Dug some old Yokos out of the shed to use for the meeting, I guess putting the motor back in might help as well

[Shaun Harris]

I wouldn't even notice it

Just ordered a good 530 online as I found a place having a special, think thats the last bit I need to finish the bike

Dug some old Yokos out of the shed to use for the meeting, I guess putting the motor back in might help as well


wise choice. Small gain for massive cost of sprockets also to suit, is just not worth it. I am using a std 525 chain on my old 520 sprockets to save me from buying a new 520 currently. I will fit a new 520 come serious race days though, like the Suzuki Series.

[Kickaha]

wise choice. Small gain for massive cost of sprockets also to suit, is just not worth it.
Already had rears available, but I would have had to buy fronts so not really a big deal, more convenience than cost that decided it

[Kickaha]

Finally got the side wheel hub reassembled, all presses together and the hub is an interference fit on the shaft, thats pretty much all the play that was developing gone

I didn't think the wheel bearings felt to bad but the new bearings are way smoother, new rod ends, changed the brake fluid, Thursday night the motor goes back in

[Grumph]

Finally got the side wheel hub reassembled, all presses together and the hub is an interference fit on the shaft, thats pretty much all the play that was developing gone

I didn't think the wheel bearings felt to bad but the new bearings are way smoother, new rod ends, changed the brake fluid, Thursday night the motor goes back in

And on the Friday, thou shalt prepare the bucket.....

[Shaun Harris]

Do any of you ever stop working ffs

[swarfie]

Do any of you ever stop working ffs

Nope....work, the curse of the racing man:facepalm:

[Grumph]

Do any of you ever stop working ffs

I'm only on line now cos I'm waiting for parts for one build and i got pissed off with the fill in job.....And i'm old and lazy....

[Shaun Harris]

I'm only on line now cos I'm waiting for parts for one build and i got pissed off with the fill in job.....And i'm old and lazy....



haha. I fill in time here for entertainment and a chat also. Im old and lazy also

[Kickaha]

And on the Friday, thou shalt prepare the bucket.....
Well I had planned on having it ready but shit happens and it wont be, needs fork seals and charge the battery, far to much to do in such limited time :laugh:

[sidecar bob]

This has popped back up.
Not a bad little unit for the money. http://www.obdsoftware.co.uk/obdstore/

[Shaun Harris]

This has popped back up.
Not a bad little unit for the money. http://www.obdsoftware.co.uk/obdstore/


Would not take long to make it pay for it self for sure

[nodrog]

This has popped back up.
Not a bad little unit for the money. http://www.obdsoftware.co.uk/obdstore/

who has a sidecar with an obd plug?

[jellywrestler]

who has a sidecar with an obd plug?

the cunts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRtAO-nffz0

[sidecar bob]

who has a sidecar with an obd plug?

How the fuck did that happen. No checky linky.
I meant this.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=963318054

[Grumph]

How the fuck did that happen. No checky linky.
I meant this.

I admire the honesty - 31hp at the crank and few spares.

Looks like an Imp wouldn't be hard to fit.

[swarfie]

Yeah it needs a bit of a bomb under it. I sold a spare engine to the original owner (before Max bought it) of that rig a few years ago (actually I've still got the four cylinder magneto off it in my shed somewhere if someone wants it). I also "loaned" him a Cosworth cam to copy the lobe profiles to make a better cam for it....haven't seen the bloody thing back again. Must chase that up :scratch:

[sidecar bob]

I admire the honesty - 31hp at the crank.

It would probably be more effective to just have curry the night before racing seeing as it's a semi kneeler.

[nodrog]

....
Looks like an Imp wouldn't be hard to fit.

its a shame that only air cooled twins were raced back in the day.

[jellywrestler]

its a shame that only air cooled twins were raced back in the day.

and minis

[nodrog]

and minis

there were none of those either.

[Grumph]

there were none of those either.

Are you telling us that the Register (I'm assuming it's them you're dealing with) are saying that they want to be true to genuine NZ racing history in the sidecar class ? Fuck me, they've deliberately fostered false history in the solos for years...which is why I have nothing to do with them.
Minis - ha, period tests show 15hp at the wheels for a stock 850...
Swarfie, the Cosworth cam for that FPF I'd be prepared to bet has BSA Gold Star profiles on it....

[sidecar bob]

Are you telling us that the Register (I'm assuming it's them you're dealing with) are saying that they want to be true to genuine NZ racing history in the sidecar class ? Fuck me, they've deliberately fostered false history in the solos for years...which is why I have nothing to do with them.
Minis - ha, period tests show 15hp at the wheels for a stock 850...
Swarfie, the Cosworth cam for that FPF I'd be prepared to bet has BSA Gold Star profiles on it....

Na, its a genuine history, based solely on what an enthusiastic amateur on minimum wage could knock up in their shed in Wanganui with bits sourced from the local car & bike wreckers.
With the addition of brand new six speed gearboxes & 20k Maney engines.

[swarfie]

Na, its a genuine history, based solely on what an enthusiastic amateur on minimum wage could knock up in their shed in Wanganui with bits sourced from the local car & bike wreckers.
With the addition of brand new six speed gearboxes & 20k Maney engines.

:whistle::2thumbsup

But not genuine four cylinder engines of oriental origin....apparently....according to some...

[nodrog]

Are you telling us that the Register (I'm assuming it's them you're dealing with) are saying that they want to be true to genuine NZ racing history in the sidecar class ? Fuck me, they've deliberately fostered false history in the solos for years...which is why I have nothing to do with them.
Minis - ha, period tests show 15hp at the wheels for a stock 850...
Swarfie, the Cosworth cam for that FPF I'd be prepared to bet has BSA Gold Star profiles on it....

no not the register just some one eyed individuals, who when asked for their opinion of new class rules for pre 72 (which included Japanese) basically all wrote rules which advantaged their own outfits.

I was basically told I was a retarded for suggesting we just use the aussie rules, with 2 amendments so current machinery is still eligible.

It seems you can have a remanufactured pom bomb made in 2015 to what ever specs you please, but if you want to run a std 41 year old jap motor it has to run the same oil it left the factory with.

One competitor even said "we don't want 3 or 4 cylinder engines as it will be too much like the 70's again", I kinda thought that was the point of historic racing.

Anyway it doesn't bother me, I've just ordered a remanufactured Konig engine which should be 160hp when run on methanol, just to fit in with the rules.

[Shaun Harris]

Dam this sounds like a load a dam bollocks. The Australin sim rules is the logical set as fa as I am concerned

[scrivy]

Anyway it doesn't bother me, I've just ordered a remanufactured Konig engine which should be 160hp when run on methanol, just to fit in with the rules.

Did that sponsor finally front up?!

[Grumph]

no not the register just some one eyed individuals, who when asked for their opinion of new class rules for pre 72 (which included Japanese) basically all wrote rules which advantaged their own outfits.

I was basically told I was a retarded for suggesting we just use the aussie rules, with 2 amendments so current machinery is still eligible.

It seems you can have a remanufactured pom bomb made in 2015 to what ever specs you please, but if you want to run a std 41 year old jap motor it has to run the same oil it left the factory with.

One competitor even said "we don't want 3 or 4 cylinder engines as it will be too much like the 70's again", I kinda thought that was the point of historic racing.

Anyway it doesn't bother me, I've just ordered a remanufactured Konig engine which should be 160hp when run on methanol, just to fit in with the rules.

So where and how does the Hoggley fit in ?
Time for a takeover of the committee with some people who might stop the register's habit of running "closed to club" meetings to rules not in the MNZ rulebook.

I'm still working on the owner of the Ex White/Hooper Honda outfit to get it out - but he's got major family probs at present so it's on the back burner.
If we can get it to a Southern festival, be interesting to see the NI guys reactions.....

[nodrog]

Did that sponsor finally front up?!

I wish, I cant even get anybody to sponsor me beer for a race meet.


........

I'm still working on the owner of the Ex White/Hooper Honda outfit to get it out - but he's got major family probs at present so it's on the back burner.
If we can get it to a Southern festival, be interesting to see the NI guys reactions.....

their heads are so far up their own arses I doubt they would even notice it.

[sidecar bob]

Dam this sounds like a load a dam bollocks. The Australin sim rules is the logical set as fa as I am concerned

Well join the NZSRA, come to the AGM at Hampton & give them all a jolly good shouting at about it. Bring your water bottle too & squirt the ones that argue with you. Id love to see that again, it was priceless.

[Shaun Harris]

Well join the NZSRA, come to the AGM at Hampton & give them all a jolly good shouting at about it. Bring your water bottle too & squirt the ones that argue with you. Id love to see that again, it was priceless.



Haha, they dam well deserved that, useless buggers

[scrivy]

Well join the NZSRA, come to the AGM at Hampton & give them all a jolly good shouting at about it. Bring your water bottle too & squirt the ones that argue with you. Id love to see that again, it was priceless.

Gordie, have you gotten hold of Bobs password again...?

[sidecar bob]

Haha, they dam well deserved that, useless buggers

That was when you went to help push start Tracey on the line at Manfield when she stalled & you squirted the official that tried to stop you helping.:clap:

[nodrog]

Gordie, have you gotten hold of Bobs password again...?

no, I've never seen Shaun squirt.

[nodrog]

anyhow....

can anybody tell me why nobody uses bearings in the pivot point between the fork and front swinging arm?

Everybody seems to have a hardon for bushes (calm down Scrivy).

[Shaun Harris]

That was when you went to help push start Tracey on the line at Manfield when she stalled & you squirted the official that tried to stop you helping.:clap:



sure was, the dam race had not even started, and they just stood there and did nothing FFS I did apologise to the official later on though,m as they are volunteers and appreciated, but bet he learnt a good lesson for the future in case lol Once a chair racer, always one I guess.

[Drew]

anyhow....

can anybody tell me why nobody uses bearings in the pivot point between the fork and front swinging arm?

Everybody seems to have a hardon for bushes (calm down Scrivy).
Ours has bushes, but it must be the only moving part on the chassis that we haven't rebuilt. Instead we had to make new bushes rather than chop the bottom off the fork legs.

But if that point were to ever be replaced, it'd get bearings.

Shit, the gear lever pivot is bearings on ours at the moment...but it's prolly getting done away with.

[Shaun Harris]

Ours has bushes, but it must be the only moving part on the chassis that we haven't rebuilt. Instead we had to make new bushes rather than chop the bottom off the fork legs.

But if that point were to ever be replaced, it'd get bearings.

Shit, the gear lever pivot is bearings on ours at the moment...but it's prolly getting done away with.


Curious, why would you do away with bearing pivot points, and what is better than a bearing acting as such then?

[Grumph]

anyhow....

can anybody tell me why nobody uses bearings in the pivot point between the fork and front swinging arm?

Everybody seems to have a hardon for bushes (calm down Scrivy).

Well BMW always used bearings in their Earles forks...But bushes are more tolerant of misalignment (read that as, a damm good and rigid jig is needed to keep them in alignment when the fork is welded...) So for the average punter, bushes are easier.
That said, i've always been amazed at the Speedway chairs using bushes for the steering head...

[nodrog]

Well BMW always used bearings in their Earles forks...But bushes are more tolerant of misalignment (read that as, a damm good and rigid jig is needed to keep them in alignment when the fork is welded...) So for the average punter, bushes are easier.
That said, i've always been amazed at the Speedway chairs using bushes for the steering head...

I thought it may have had something to do with soaking up bumps or something, but I would have thought all the force is basically transferred from the axle straight up into the front shocks.

the windle front end I have in my shed has these funny urethane bushes that are all flogged out.

[Shaun Harris]

Well BMW always used bearings in their Earles forks...But bushes are more tolerant of misalignment (read that as, a damm good and rigid jig is needed to keep them in alignment when the fork is welded...) So for the average punter, bushes are easier.
That said, i've always been amazed at the Speedway chairs using bushes for the steering head...



Had to be some thing logical like that. Bearings are made to go around ( Move) Bushes are made to fill in spaces

[scrivy]

no, I've never seen Shaun squirt.
Bob, have you got Gordies login password??

[Grumph]

I thought it may have had something to do with soaking up bumps or something, but I would have thought all the force is basically transferred from the axle straight up into the front shocks.

the windle front end I have in my shed has these funny urethane bushes that are all flogged out.

machining urethane has defeated some good machinists...but a rough bugger like me can do it.
Replacements can be made...at a cost.....

[nodrog]

machining urethane has defeated some good machinists...but a rough bugger like me can do it.
Replacements can be made...at a cost.....

I used to run the machine shop at a plastic manufacturing firm, piece of piss. pity I don't have a cnc machine at home.

I'm not using that windle front end, just have it here to look at, will be making one from scratch.

[Drew]

Big rod ends would be my go to, now that I think of it.

Adjustable ride height!

Ours had bushes when we got the chair Shaun. They were just fucked. So we made some more.

[sidecar bob]

I used to run the machine shop at a plastic manufacturing firm, piece of piss. pity I don't have a cnc machine at home.

I'm not using that windle front end, just have it here to look at, will be making one from scratch.

If you did use that windle front end it would turn corners really good one way.

[Shaun Harris]

If you did use that windle front end it would turn corners really good one way.



Just like Adam's does Great one way, shit the other

[Drew]

If you did use that windle front end it would turn corners really good one way.

I investigated what it would take to straighten that front end out. It could be done, but it wouldn't be fun.

I looked at copying it and it's construction too. Decided I could buy a replacement for less than the bending gear required.

So I let Alan give it a clean and send it back.

[nodrog]

If you did use that windle front end it would turn corners really good one way.

like a sidecar?

[Drew]

Just like Adam's does Great one way, shit the other

They all do that. It's the inherint issue of an asymmetric vehicle.

[nodrog]

They all do that. It's the inherint issue of an asymmetric vehicle.

can you run out to the shed and measure the internal width of the swingarm on my superbike when you have a minute?

[Shaun Harris]

They all do that. It's the inherint issue of an asymmetric vehicle.


Learn some thing new every day, and NO, I won't remember how to spell it after google searching the meaning

[Drew]

can you run out to the shed and measure the internal width of the swingarm on my superbike when you have a minute?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha, you think it's in the shed!

[Kickaha]

I'm still working on the owner of the Ex White/Hooper Honda outfit to get it out - but he's got major family probs at present so it's on the back burner.
If we can get it to a Southern festival, be interesting to see the NI guys reactions.....
Tell him I am keen to thrash it for him, you'd need new exhausts, you wont even be allowed to start it with what it has

I wish, I cant even get anybody to sponsor me beer for a race meet..
I have a 12 pack of Ken someone gave me I will bring it up

can anybody tell me why nobody uses bearings in the pivot point between the fork and front swinging arm?
Because they're dumb, although even my mate Louis uses them in the front of the LCR on the bottom pivot

[Drew]

Because they're dumb, although even my mate Louis uses them in the front of the LCR on the bottom pivot
That's what he's talking about. Mr Windle does the same I think.

I still think rod ends has merit.

[Drew]

can you run out to the shed and measure the internal width of the swingarm on my superbike when you have a minute?

205 clear between the axle spacer mating surfaces.

[Kickaha]

That's what he's talking about. Mr Windle does the same I think.

I still think rod ends has merit.

They use rod ends in the top

[Grumph]

I still think rod ends has merit.

I don't - unless you have the budget to replace several times a season. If you're using them as a rotating bearing, they wear quick.
Remember the Britten front end ? Patter problems cos the rod ends wore bloody quick, and any wear there meant patter.

There's a car suspension trick of using the spherical bearing piece in a tube with wedge rings welded either side. Used for wishbone pivot shaft bearings on race stuff with a short life span. Useful if the chassis flexes as it'll self align.

[Grumph]

Tell him I am keen to thrash it for him, you'd need new exhausts, you wont even be allowed to start it with what it has

Yeah, I can see myself doing a lot of work on it...And the original builder is an old mate of mine too, he'd be keen to have a punt. Trouble is, he's the size of an All Black lock....

[Shaun Harris]

I don't - unless you have the budget to replace several times a season. If you're using them as a rotating bearing, they wear quick.
Remember the Britten front end ? Patter problems cos the rod ends wore bloody quick, and any wear there meant patter.

There's a car suspension trick of using the spherical bearing piece in a tube with wedge rings welded either side. Used for wishbone pivot shaft bearings on race stuff with a short life span. Useful if the chassis flexes as it'll self align.




The main reason behind the Britten front end patter, was due to the carbon girders being to rigid, but YES, the rod ends did take a hell of a hammering, and needed changing often.

[Grumph]

The main reason behind the Britten front end patter, was due to the carbon girders being to rigid, but YES, the rod ends did take a hell of a hammering, and needed changing often.

I thought that would provoke a reply from you...Interesting answer. Is that the accepted reason now as last time i talked to anyone they still reckoned it was the rod ends...Never got an answer to the question of exactly when - at what point in the turn - it started to patter, either.

[Shaun Harris]

I thought that would provoke a reply from you...Interesting answer. Is that the accepted reason now as last time i talked to anyone they still reckoned it was the rod ends...Never got an answer to the question of exactly when - at what point in the turn - it started to patter, either.



I am not 100% on the general opinion to be honest, but after my year on it, and testing many many different styles of build of them, the patter only ever got worse from the original designed one's. A big problem with the Britten program was, not enough notes were recorded from the many different riders to come to any real conclusions. As you would understand, there are theories, and then there is on track reality, which comes down to rider feel and the stop watch I guess. Patter with the original ones, would normally begin between tip in, and full lean, but then using the 2 different styles that I tested for them, it would cause head shakes and patter in a straight line even, to the point of being near on lethal, especially at the TT with the hammering a bike takes there. It was like a small rubber bush inside another rubber to try and absorb the shock, but this design only exaggerated the problem with the patter. All the boys involved in it were good, but I personally would listen to GUY re the Britten, over any one else involved with it.

[nodrog]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha, you think it's in the shed!

Dude you need to show it the love.


....I have a 12 pack of Ken someone gave me I will bring it up.....

see, I cant understand why everybody else thinks your a cunt.


205 clear between the axle spacer mating surfaces.

chur.


They use rod ends in the top

where?

[Kickaha]

where?

I'm talking about the front of the long bikes with parallelogram front end, bushes in the bottom pivot and rod ends at the top which give you caster adjustment

[Drew]

I thought they had four rod ends. So you could adjust the offset too. Guess I remembered wrong.

[Drew]

Dude you need to show it the love.



I haven't done skids on it, that's fucken love?

[nodrog]

I haven't done skids on it, that's fucken love?

cool, I'd like to at least see it before its broken :niceone:

[Drew]

cool, I'd like to at least see it before its broken :niceone:

I can't promise I won't break it, I just won't be riding it.

[Kickaha]

This is the LCR fuel tank from the two stroke era, should be good for forty laps, lets do some endurance racing

316576

I think when Dave priced up going to a smaller 20L tank it was about $2500

[nodrog]

This is the LCR fuel tank from the two stroke era, should be good for forty laps, lets do some endurance racing

316576

are you giving away those gold rims?

[Drew]

I'm keen. We've got space to make our tank hold another five or ten litres.

[Grumph]

are you giving away those gold rims?

A guy down here brought in two sets, I've got the other set...They're motard wheels - dirt bike hubs which are quite wide and awkward.
No cush on the rear, chain line very wide, lateral thinking and some machining required to get it in far enough for a "normal" chain line.
Front has a big PCD for the single disc too, very limiting...
But, they are RS125 widths....

tank size....check out replacement cell liners for the speedway cars. Should be something smaller at a lower price surely.

[Kickaha]

are you giving away those gold rims?

Yes, giving them away for $400 2.5 x 17 front and 3.5 x 17 rear, wire wheels

[nodrog]

A guy down here brought in two sets, I've got the other set...They're motard wheels - dirt bike hubs which are quite wide and awkward.
No cush on the rear, chain line very wide, lateral thinking and some machining required to get it in far enough for a "normal" chain line.
Front has a big PCD for the single disc too, very limiting...
But, they are RS125 widths....

tank size....check out replacement cell liners for the speedway cars. Should be something smaller at a lower price surely.

I've found a zxr400 wheel with sprocket and disk that may work.


Yes, giving them away for $400 2.5 x 17 front and 3.5 x 17 rear, wire wheels

thats pretty cheap.

[Drew]

Lace the rims onto the GN hubs.

[Kickaha]

Fuck me what a cunty time it has been lately, everything seems to turn to shit

Radiator froze and split which also popped frost plugs in the head which meant an engine strip and several hundred dollars

The van has been in the panel shop getting some fairly major repairs which were going to take 3 -4 weeks about 10 weeks ago when we dropped it off

After a bit of back and forth they say It'll be ready on the 16th, which if no one has noticed was a few days ago, so they ring today and now they are paying to rent me a truck to go to the meeting

Next with 3 days to go before we load our truck up the fucking signwriter rings up and say he cant do some of the shit we wanted

[Grumph]

Does the rebuilt motor run and hold water ?

[Kickaha]

Does the rebuilt motor run and hold water ?

So far, it only went back in last Saturday, if it turns to shit at HD I think I will take up drinking again

[nodrog]

Fuck me what a cunty time it has been lately, everything seems to turn to shit

Radiator froze and split which also popped frost plugs in the head which meant an engine strip and several hundred dollars

The van has been in the panel shop getting some fairly major repairs which were going to take 3 -4 weeks about 10 weeks ago when we dropped it off

After a bit of back and forth they say It'll be ready on the 16th, which if no one has noticed was a few days ago, so they ring today and now they are paying to rent me a truck to go to the meeting

Next with 3 days to go before we load our truck up the fucking signwriter rings up and say he cant do some of the shit we wanted

What sort of truck are You getting?

[Grumph]

So far, it only went back in last Saturday, if it turns to shit at HD I think I will take up drinking again

Well it was a light frost here today, looks like a calm and clear night. I'd suggest wrapping the outfit in a blanket and heating the garage....

[Kickaha]

What sort of truck are You getting?

http://www.hireatruck.co.nz/nz-truck-hire/

What fucking shit do you need bought up, so far there's some household shit for Welly, A motor to drop in Bulls, some stuff for Sidecarbob, I may as well leave the sidecar at home and make myself a few bucks carting stuff around

[sidecar bob]

Is it still cold enough down there to freeze a radiator? That's ridiculous, it wasn't that cold here in the middle of winter.

[sidecar bob]

http://www.hireatruck.co.nz/nz-truck-hire/

What fucking shit do you need bought up, so far there's some household shit for Welly, A motor to drop in Bulls, some stuff for Sidecarbob, I may as well leave the sidecar at home and make myself a few bucks carting stuff around

Business opportunity just waiting to happen.
Of course once you start charging we will all disappear.

[Kickaha]

Is it still cold enough down there to freeze a radiator? That's ridiculous, it wasn't that cold here in the middle of winter.

Minus 5 when we got to levels for one of the meetings, frost formed on the bodywork when we unloaded it

Yow Ling had an RG150 split a barrel when it froze in his workshop

[kiwi cowboy]

Minus 5 when we got to levels for one of the meetings, frost formed on the bodywork when we unloaded it

Yow Ling had an RG150 split a barrel when it froze in his workshop

Engine ice????

[nodrog]

http://www.hireatruck.co.nz/nz-truck-hire/

What fucking shit do you need bought up, so far there's some household shit for Welly, A motor to drop in Bulls, some stuff for Sidecarbob, I may as well leave the sidecar at home and make myself a few bucks carting stuff around

That's pretty big. Can you post daily updates of where you are so I can check the $1 reserve auctions in that region?

[Kickaha]

That's pretty big. Can you post daily updates of where you are so I can check the $1 reserve auctions in that region?

6am Friday I will be rolling off the Cook Straight Ferry, you can work it out yourself from there

[sidecar bob]

That wrecker dude says he will drop those parts to yours Thursday arvo. You can't leave until he's been, or this freight lark thing of yours will get a reputation for unreliability.

[wildman]

http://www.hireatruck.co.nz/nz-truck-hire/

What fucking shit do you need bought up, so far there's some household shit for Welly, A motor to drop in Bulls, some stuff for Sidecarbob, I may as well leave the sidecar at home and make myself a few bucks carting stuff around

A couple of tall blonde [female ] pits girls would be nice, plenty of room to fit them in the truck and a sidecar log book that seems to have gone into hiding somewhere in the South Island.

[Kickaha]

That wrecker dude says he will drop those parts to yours Thursday arvo. You can't leave until he's been, or this freight lark thing of yours will get a reputation for unreliability.

Hoping to be home about 5pm and gone by 6pm at latest

[Grumph]

Is it still cold enough down there to freeze a radiator? That's ridiculous, it wasn't that cold here in the middle of winter.

I was actually joking about it still being that cold...But when I sent the Laverda crank to queensland for a holiday in the sun, and a rebuild, we had to carry it out to the gate over frozen snow. Yes, two of us - the bastard things are that heavy...And yes, you've been here, imagine my place under 10inches of frozen snow...Global bloody warming ? Where ? Now it's looking like a drought summer and bloody high fire risk well before Christmas...More fires on the infield at Ruapuna I'd expect.

[sidecar bob]

I was actually joking about it still being that cold...But when I sent the Laverda crank to queensland for a holiday in the sun, and a rebuild, we had to carry it out to the gate over frozen snow. Yes, two of us - the bastard things are that heavy...And yes, you've been here, imagine my place under 10inches of frozen snow...Global bloody warming ? Where ? Now it's looking like a drought summer and bloody high fire risk well before Christmas...More fires on the infield at Ruapuna I'd expect.
We were there for an hour at Christmas & had to park in the shade & put the sunshade in the windscreen to stop the dash from melting, so no, I can't imagine it in snow.
Can you jump in that truck with Warwick & head up here for the weekend, I feel like some intelligent conversation & Warwick isint going to be able to provide that.

[Drew]

It's OK Steve. I'll be there mate.

[Kickaha]

Can you jump in that truck with Warwick & head up here for the weekend, I feel like some intelligent conversation & Warwick isint going to be able to provide that.
Cab is already full, he'll have to go in the cargo area

[old rig]

Cab is already full, he'll have to go in the cargo area
Fuck if that's not full
I'll just get on trademe 😆

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[scrivy]

Fuck if that's not full
I'll just get on trademe 😆

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But he'll eat all the pies that you order online....[emoji12]

Damn phone....

[sidecar bob]

Warwick, Can you grab this for me on your way out of town mate?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/home-living/laundry/washing-machines/top-loader-6kg-under/auction-967255332.htm

[Shaun Harris]

Warwick, Can you grab this for me on your way out of town mate?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/home-living/laundry/washing-machines/top-loader-6kg-under/auction-967255332.htm


But but, you never wash dude, I can smell ya from here

[Kickaha]

Warwick, Can you grab this for me on your way out of town mate?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/home-living/laundry/washing-machines/top-loader-6kg-under/auction-967255332.htm

We'd probaby have room

[Kickaha]

Right all loaded and about to leave, just so you cunts know, you will all be helping me unload seeing as our ramps are sitting in Pigs workshop and it was a big fucking effort for the two of us to even get it in the truck

[Drew]

Righto, we'll be there around lunch time tomorrow.

[nodrog]

Right all loaded and about to leave, just so you cunts know, you will all be helping me unload seeing as our ramps are sitting in Pigs workshop and it was a big fucking effort for the two of us to even get it in the truck

I've got two ramps, you can watch me unload my chair.

[nodrog]

Righto, we'll be there around lunch time tomorrow.

be aware you cant get in past the top carpark until 7am Saturday morning.

[Drew]

be aware you cant get in past the top carpark until 7am Saturday morning.

I meant Saturday.

[old rig]

be aware you cant get in past the top carpark until 7am Saturday morning.
What about Friday night


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[sidecar bob]

What about Friday night


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You can get your motor home bottomed out on a small hump & remain stranded all weekend.:facepalm:

[old rig]

You can get your motor home bottomed out on a small hump & remain stranded all weekend.:facepalm:
Not me I can drive

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[sidecar bob]

Not me I can drive

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You must have improved in the last year or two. It's never too late to learn new things.:msn-wink:

[old rig]

You must have improved in the last year or two. It's never too late to learn new things.:msn-wink:
Wasn't me I just hit them with a sidecar

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[nodrog]

I meant Saturday.

dude, you're supposed to be the smart one.


What about Friday night


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I'm pretty sure that falls before 7am Saturday morning this week.

[Drew]

dude, you're supposed to be the smart one.
May God have mercy on us all.

[old rig]

dude, you're supposed to be the smart one.



I'm pretty sure that falls before 7am Saturday morning this week.
I see you are the wize one [emoji15]

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[Drew]

The shit we go through, for a fucken race meeting....that I'm not even racing at.

[scrivy]

The shit we go through, for a fucken race meeting....that I'm not even racing at.

Bring ya gear just incase........:love:

[sidecar bob]

The shit we go through, for a fucken race meeting....that I'm not even racing at.

Fuckin tell me about it, your not providing bikes for all & sundry to fuck.

[swarfie]

Any of you slackers need a place to stay tonight, there's room at ours and we're only 40 minutes from the track...just sayn

[nodrog]

Fuckin tell me about it, your not providing bikes for all & sundry to fuck.

I feel your pain.

[scrivy]

I feel your pain.

I'm spectating now.....

[swarfie]

I'm spectating now.....

I feel your pain...

I'm not going.

[nodrog]

I'm spectating now.....

you going to spank your monkey over people spanking their monkey?

theres a name for that.

sick cunt!

[nodrog]

....

I'm not going.

what's wrong with you?

Pate said he would passenger for you.

[swarfie]

what's wrong with you?

Sick Bugger from way back:rolleyes:

[old rig]

what's wrong with you?

Pate said he would passenger for you.
Only for you

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[sidecar bob]

I'm spectating now.....

You can sit with Gordie, I broke pinky loading it into the van, its not too broken for you to ride, but Gordie wont be able to cope.

[scrivy]

You can sit with Gordie, I broke pinky loading it into the van, its not too broken for you to ride, but Gordie wont be able to cope.

Can I spank over it....?? :devil2::devil2:

[scrivy]

you going to spank your monkey over people spanking their monkey?

theres a name for that.

sick cunt!

.................316784

[swarfie]

Pate said he would passenger for you.


Only for you

Don't think the Matchy would have enough power.....:lol:

[old rig]

Don't think the Matchy would have enough power.....[emoji38]
At least you have the balls

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[nodrog]

At least you have the balls

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now theres an image


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18TWdhxoGSc

[scrivy]

At least you have the balls

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Yip.... yours in his hands....

[swarfie]

Got social media / yewchoob block on my work computer....don't know what that was about....probly just as well.

[nodrog]

Got social media / yewchoob block on my work computer....don't know what that was about....probly just as well.

send the link to Sheryl, she can confirm if its accurate for us.

[swarfie]

send the link to Sheryl, she can confirm if its accurate for us.

OORsum...thanks bud.

[sidecar bob]

Couple of Aussie chums have invited us to the next running of the Townsville TT over the Barry shorai weekend.
https://www.facebook.com/events/996496687029890/
We have organised the loan of a P5 gsx1100 shorty for Tracey to ride & me to swing on.
They have a fancy dress lemans start sidecar race under lights & the whole thing is a bit of a hoot.
Any further takers? Plenty of time to get your shit together.

[scrivy]

I hear the Germans have invaded Katikati......

[sidecar bob]

I hear the Germans have invaded Katikati......

Theyre looking a bit lost.

[nodrog]

I hear the Germans have invaded Katikati......

http://temolopez.com/images/incomingbaby5og2.jpg

[Stirts]

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[scrivy]

Colonel Schultz is gunna ride it...
But I see nothing......

Damn phone....

[old rig]

Theyre looking a bit lost.
The bombing runs will start soon

[emoji629] [emoji574]

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[sidecar bob]

The bombing runs will start soon

[emoji629] [emoji574]

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I think youre going to need an experienced tail gunner with a type rating on that machine.

[scrivy]

I think youre going to need an experienced tail gunner with a type rating on that machine.

I think the Colonel will be nailing the tail more like it...... possible on the machine too.... :shutup::shit::love:

[old rig]

I think the Colonel will be nailing the tail more like it...... possible on the machine too.... :shutup::shit::love:
Have you put fuckin cameras in my shed

[emoji41]

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[old rig]

I think youre going to need an experienced tail gunner with a tap rating on that machine.

Fixed it for ya

[swarfie]

It's gunna need more horsepower:psst:

[scrivy]

It's gunna need more horsepower:psst:

Pfftt.... horsepower is over rated.....
Just use worse brakes...... :msn-wink:

[Drew]

Pfftt.... horsepower is over rated.....
Just use worse brakes...... :msn-wink:

Worked for Tracey.

[old rig]

It's gunna need more horsepower[emoji14]sst:
Less weight = more hp I'm hoping lol

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[nodrog]

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