The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread? [Archive] - Page 13

Brian d marge

29th January 2017, 14:30

This isn't a paradigm shift - it's an ongoing fuckup. The reason international affairs have been run as they have for centuries now is because that way works - at least most of the time.

The US ambassador to the UN is reported as saying to US ALLIES, "We're watching to see who doesn't support us - and we're taking names"

That to your allies....Keep it up and you won't have many. Isolationist America is fast becoming a fact.
Look up ,or try and get a copy of your " living birth certificate"
There are 2, one , the one you have is written in capital letters
The other the living is written in lower case letters ....

This is how international world affairs is run.

PS , a friend of mine has just got his and I've just started the process.
Ain't Skype wonderful [emoji12]

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Virago

29th January 2017, 22:29

It will be interesting to see how Trump's ban on Muslims pans out, and what exactly he's trying to achieve.

- Not a single American has been killed on U.S. soil by citizens of any of the countries banned, in statistics going as far back as 1975.

- Most US terrorist attacks are carried out by American born citizens.

- The largest proportion of actual foreign terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, a country not on the banned list - Trump is quite open about his Saudi business interests.

- Roughly ten times as many Americans are killed each year by toddlers with handguns, than by foreign terrorists.

I think that before Trump can figure out "what the hell is going on" with Muslims, he's first going to have to figure out "what the hell he's talking about".

oldrider

30th January 2017, 07:15

mashman

30th January 2017, 16:49

Most of the agitation being created at the bottom is a direct result of the agitation that Trump is causing among the so called upper echelon! :rolleyes:

They are obviously very afraid of him! :corn:

Smoke and mirrors. Gets ya'll up in arms whilst forgetting about other things that might be happening. The usual MO innit?

No they're not. He's there for a reason. Likely coz he's good with smoke and mirrors.

Brian d marge

30th January 2017, 17:29

Smoke and mirrors. Gets ya'll up in arms whilst forgetting about other things that might be happening. The usual MO innit?

No they're not. He's there for a reason. Likely coz he's good with smoke and mirrors.
Don't Know, the Germans the Catholics or the Kazaks.... I'm backing the Catholics

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Brian d marge

30th January 2017, 18:07

mashman

30th January 2017, 18:22

Don't Know, the Germans the Catholics or the Kazaks.... I'm backing the Catholics

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I find it funny, in a kind of ha ha way, but also in a kind of facepalm way to think that the same shit still works. Powerful stuff lol. Gotta wonder, if Trump passes the relegislation of them thar pipelines that are on the table for passing, and 3 guys turn up at the dead of night to pass it, would it lead to the brutality of a large group of people protecting their ancestral right and protecting the water quality that they use for their day to day survival... and any other towns and future in the path of that pipeline n wildlife n shit for who knows how long, would happen. The last picture I saw was that of some form of smallish rocket launcher. Fake news or wouldn't put it past 'em lol. Think Flint (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis) as a potential length of time that a problem can be ignored if it isn't economically viable. It's business, not personal (http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/512096744/as-trump-reboots-pipeline-expansion-an-unexpected-delay-emerges). Economoney must be protected first and foremost. And people can't be seen to be getting in the way of economic acquisition and success for the rest of the country. It's business, not personal. Praps he should use that money to fund some free electricity projects lol. Story goes on long time. Not sure what else is going on in the world that kind of defies belief in the name of shhhhhhh, it's ok, we've got a lullaby for ya :)

Brian d marge

30th January 2017, 18:29

Carry on eating grass and shut up...
The top of the Serengeti food chain ,will see ya right

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mashman

30th January 2017, 18:38

I think the agenda is ticking along nicely ,

get rid of alternative governments ...No private property unless ya rich ...get rid of patriotism
get rid of the family structure
, religion , ....and throw away ya money and government

and replace it with one big shiny new world council , like Christchurch city council but more in tune with the worlds challenges., and digital money , no more heavy coins wearing holes in ya pocket

and a park , with swings for the kids ....

I like parks, and those rainbow cities that magically rebuild themselves (Kudos to Japan some crackin clean up jobs)... unless people are busy in bullshit jobs n we need to import loads of people to make it all work like :bleh: There's plans for the local duck pond to be concreted over to make way for a splash pad. The original quote for the job doubled at some point in time. And I really like ducks. A nice couple of 'em used to clean the front of our garden, yeah, garden, in the rain.

mashman

30th January 2017, 18:39

Carry on eating grass and shut up...
The top of the Serengeti food chain ,will see ya right

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Well, the presidency is pretty high up the food chain. It's right above us lol.

Katman

30th January 2017, 18:43

I find it funny, in a kind of ha ha way, but also in a kind of facepalm way to think that the same shit still works. Powerful stuff lol. Gotta wonder, if Trump passes the relegislation of them thar pipelines that are on the table for passing, and 3 guys turn up at the dead of night to pass it, would it lead to the brutality of a large group of people protecting their ancestral right and protecting the water quality that they use for their day to day survival... and any other towns and future in the path of that pipeline n wildlife n shit for who knows how long, would happen. The last picture I saw was that of some form of smallish rocket launcher. Fake news or wouldn't put it past 'em lol. Think Flint (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_water_crisis) as a potential length of time that a problem can be ignored if it isn't economically viable. It's business, not personal (http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/512096744/as-trump-reboots-pipeline-expansion-an-unexpected-delay-emerges). Economoney must be protected first and foremost. And people can't be seen to be getting in the way of economic acquisition and success for the rest of the country. It's business, not personal. Praps he should use that money to fund some free electricity projects lol. Story goes on long time. Not sure what else is going on in the world that kind of defies belief in the name of shhhhhhh, it's ok, we've got a lullaby for ya :)

And the thing I find the weirdest is that there are dumb fucks out there who will disagree with your post.

mashman

30th January 2017, 19:05

And the thing I find the weirdest is that there are dumb fucks out there who will disagree with your post.

I'm beyond caring. I understand. Powerful stuff! A comfortable life or an inconvenient truth. Great image. N business is business n economoney is economoney n progress, coz growth must come first else we suffer some form of financial penalty coz economoney is financial economoney. Someone should do something about that, heh.

Woodman

30th January 2017, 19:20

And the thing I find the weirdest is that there are dumb fucks out there who will disagree with your post.

Some of us dumbfucks agree with it too.

Katman

30th January 2017, 19:24

Some of us dumbfucks agree with it too.

It might come as a shock to you but you're not the dumbest fuck here.

Woodman

30th January 2017, 19:27

It might come as a shock to you but you're not the dumbest fuck here.

But I am trying...

Brian d marge

30th January 2017, 19:30

I'm beyond caring. I understand. Powerful stuff! A comfortable life or an inconvenient truth. Great image. N business is business n economoney is economoney n progress, coz growth must come first else we suffer some form of financial penalty coz economoney is financial economoney. Someone should do something about that, heh.
https://youtu.be/EhbxI5eVnM4

They are

And someone had better tell the hippies , it's dawned....

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Katman

30th January 2017, 19:32

But I am trying...

I'm sure I've given you credit for your persistence in the past.

Voltaire

30th January 2017, 19:52

But I am trying...

Careful...two threads going to PD might the KB equivalent of a week in the US.

Needs a personal attack......um....Gremlin is dumb.:innocent:

Woodman

30th January 2017, 19:55

Careful...two threads going to PD might the KB equivalent of a week in the US.

Needs a personal attack......um....Gremlin is dumb.:innocent:

He does ride a bmw, not an airhead but a bmw nevertheless so he can't be too dumb.

Voltaire

30th January 2017, 20:04

He does ride a bmw, not an airhead but a bmw nevertheless so he can't be too dumb.

There are BMW's that are not air cooled ?????:shit:

Katman

30th January 2017, 20:06

There are BMW's that are not air cooled ?????:shit:

You should start a thread about it.

Voltaire

30th January 2017, 20:13

You should start a thread about it.

I did but Axlie got abusive about his air bike and Gremlin sent it to PD.

husaberg

30th January 2017, 20:23

I did but Axlie got abusive about his mohair bike and Gremlin sent it to PD.

fixed it.........

See trumps spokesman has told the media to keep their mouth shut.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/steve-bannon-donald-trump-war-media-transparency-liberal-elite-interview-new-york-times-a7548406.html

Brian d marge

30th January 2017, 21:42

These are the fkers we need in government

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Woodman

30th January 2017, 21:54

These are the fkers we need in government

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Those people in the middle east are nothing like americans. Ban them all I say......:weep:

yokel

31st January 2017, 18:00

The Muslim ban that's not a Muslim ban.

https://youtu.be/JNu4xU9qOEM

Why is Saudi Arabia not on the list?
Jews is why

https://youtu.be/9nrhavKccsQ

husaberg

1st February 2017, 17:19

Trump Donald: Blow Mr. Trump's Hair with a Trumpet

Pissed off at Donald Trump and his constant misinformed rants or simply annoyed at his unique but stupid haircut? What better way to vent your anger than to blow a trumpet on his little orange head.
Head over to TrumpDonald.org (http://trumpdonald.org/)to have a go, it's oddly satisfying and will even spurt out some confetti every once in a while.
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Woodman

1st February 2017, 19:25

husaberg

1st February 2017, 20:22

Yeah that was fun. Scared the cat though.

I guess he finally has someting in common with Bill Clinton now, what with the trumpet and the blowjob.

oldrider

1st February 2017, 21:24

This apparently is not a holocaust? - 100,000 Hours of Isolation: Gaza Blockade Enters Its 12th Year: http://www.globalresearch.ca/100000-hours-of-isolation-gaza-blockade-enters-its-12th-year/5571461

Well - not according to the United States of Israel! - (Aka the Bibi and Donald show!) - :whocares:? apparently no-one cares! :no: seems that they deserve it! :yes:

Oakie

1st February 2017, 21:38

Trump Donald: Blow Mr. Trump's Hair with a Trumpet

That was indeed fun! And I got confetti!

My 6 year old grandaughter was watching the news with her mum a couple of nights ago. Trump came on and was talking. Little Miss 6 says "Wanker. He is a wanker"

husaberg

1st February 2017, 21:43

That was indeed fun! And I got confetti!

My 6 year old grandaughter was watching the news with her mum a couple of nights ago. Trump came on and was talking. Little Miss 6 says "Wanker. He is a wanker"

I nearly spat out my coffee, they are so honest........and perceptive and clearly eloquent.

Stylo

1st February 2017, 22:39

I nearly spat out my coffee, they are so honest........and percetive and clearly eloquent.

I'm still stuck wether he's a Sociopath or a Psycopath, maybe a bit of both, help me out.

He's certainly one of them at the very least, been watching closely , seems that the 'team' will say whatever they want as long as Trump tells them what to say and the $$ oil the wheels.

Richard Nixon, all is forgiven

Katman

1st February 2017, 22:48

I'm still stuck wether he's a Sociopath or a Psycopath, maybe a bit of both, help me out

Nah, he's just a retarded Liaison Officer for Transpower.

Stylo

1st February 2017, 23:01

Nah, he's just a retarded Liaison Officer for Transpower.

Aaah, Ok ...:-)

Grumph

2nd February 2017, 06:52

I'm still stuck wether he's a Sociopath or a Psycopath, maybe a bit of both, help me out.

He's certainly one of them at the very least, been watching closely , seems that the 'team' will say whatever they want as long as Trump tells them what to say and the $$ oil the wheels.

Richard Nixon, all is forgiven

What's worrying me is that the god botherers are hailing him as the next messiah. He's building up so much anti Muslim feeling in the US that we could well be looking at the next crusade....All in the name of US "safety"
And i do wonder how long he can get away with his private news releases (twitter) and one MSM outlet (breitbart) before the media take a class action...

oldrider

2nd February 2017, 08:09

US Has Killed More Than 20 Million People in 37 “Victim Nations” Since World War II: http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051

An informative listing of American greatness? :rolleyes:

pritch

2nd February 2017, 08:21

And i do wonder how long he can get away with his private news releases (twitter) and one MSM outlet (breitbart) before the media take a class action...

The term MSM has been abused of late, but including Breitbart under that umbrella is stretching the concept to breaking point.

Reuters news agency have issued an instruction to their staff. They are to ignore the news gathering practices previously used in the USA. They are to adopt the same techniques they use successfully in countries with authoritarian regimes.

Anybody who still hasn't acknowledged that Trump and his spokespeople are full of shit might wonder why Reuters would do that?

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15F276

pritch

2nd February 2017, 10:58

You have to give him credit, Trump is having enourmous success as a recruiter for Islamic militant groups. And OK, I understand about "the fog of war", but I can't really visualise how it is necessary for the SEALS to shoot and kill an eight year old US citizen. According to their own publicity the SEALS are very good at what they do. The US military may have to commission Hollywood to create another suitably heroic movie in an effort to convince people of their claims.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/world/eight-year-old-american-daughter-anwar-al-awlaki-killed-along-seal-team-6-member-trumps

Katman

2nd February 2017, 11:03

You have to give him credit, Trump is having enourmous success as a recruiter for Islamic militant groups. And OK, I understand about "the fog of war", but I can't really visualise how it is necessary for the SEALS to shoot and kill an eight year old US citizen. The SEALS are reputedly very good at what they do. The US military may have to commission Hollywood to create another suitably heroic movie to convince people of that claim.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/world/eight-year-old-american-daughter-anwar-al-awlaki-killed-along-seal-team-6-member-trumps

God bless America, eh?

oldrider

2nd February 2017, 11:41

An alternative Canadian researcher's opinion on just who is running America including how and why. - Where would Trump fit in with this if correct? :scratch:

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Banditbandit

2nd February 2017, 12:35

Why is Saudi Arabia not on the list?

Here's a list of the country of origin of fatal jihadist terrorist attacks on US soil

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kyrgyzstan, Kuwait, Pakistan, USA, (New York.)

Don't see any of those countries on the banned list - and these are not potential threats - these are actual attacks.

There have been non-fatal attacks from citizens of these countries:

Britain (ban them?) Afghanistan, Nigeria, Guinea, Iran and Somalia (the last two are on Trump's list).

If Trump wanted to ban citizens of the countries which have actually carried out the jihadi terrorist attacks on US soil, the list would be Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kyrgyzstan, Kuwait, Pakistan, Britain, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Guinea, Iran and Somalia.

This ban looks a lot like posturing - and has bugger all to do with who actually carried out the attacks.

TheDemonLord

2nd February 2017, 13:21

This ban looks a lot like posturing - and has bugger all to do with who actually carried out the attacks.

Possibly - could also be something to do with following through on what he said he would do.

pritch

2nd February 2017, 13:25

This ban looks a lot like posturing - and has bugger all to do with who actually carried out the attacks.

Of course. The countries listed in the ban are those in which Trump has no business interests. Which illustrates why the President is supposed to relinquish his business assets to avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest. Of course he says he has handed his business interests over to his adult sons.

According to the Constitution (which Trump has clearly not read) no President is permitted to accept emoluments (payments) from any overseas source. Legal action is being taken against Trump as he is believed to be receiving money from overseas sources. One defence offered is that he is not receiving the payments, his business is.

Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat too.

Voltaire

2nd February 2017, 14:10

The list of countries that America is viewed as a terrorist would be much longer.

Voltaire

2nd February 2017, 14:13

Of course. The countries listed in the ban are those in which Trump has no business interests. Which illustrates why the President is supposed to relinquish his business assets to avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest. Of course he says he has handed his business interests over to his adult sons.

According to the Constitution (which Trump has clearly not read) no President is permitted to accept emoluments (payments) from any overseas source. Legal action is being taken against Trump as he is believed to be receiving money from overseas sources. One defence offered is that he is not receiving the payments, his business is.

Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat too.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMeeNAYU8AA18VI.jpg

" its the best cake, tastes beautiful and made with all American ingredients by Americans in America, Gonna make America cake again'

Brian d marge

2nd February 2017, 14:23

Meet Trump's , business partners
Meyer Lansky (born Meier Suchowlański;[1] July 4, 1902 – January 15, 1983), known as the "Mob's Accountant", was a major organized crime figure who, along with his associate Charles "Lucky" Luciano, was instrumental in the development of the "National Crime Syndicate" in the United States.

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Banditbandit

2nd February 2017, 14:47

Possibly - could also be something to do with following through on what he said he would do.

may be - where did he say that he would temporarily ban people from those countries on his list?

I could accept if he had said he would temporarily ban citizens from the countries where their citizens have attacked the US.

He also said the US should shut down theinetrnet until he could work outr what was going on - don't see any follow through on that

TheDemonLord

2nd February 2017, 15:43

may be - where did he say that he would temporarily ban people from those countries on his list?

He did say he would put a temporary halt on Immigration - I can't remember if he specified the countries - but TBH - I think the ban is 90 days? This isn't like he is stopping it permenantly (although I think the Syrian ban is indefinite at this point)

I could accept if he had said he would temporarily ban citizens from the countries where their citizens have attacked the US.

I tend to think he is making an example of those countries, in an effort to persuade the so-called 'moderate muslim countries' to start taking the problem of Extremism seriously.

He also said the US should shut down theinetrnet until he could work outr what was going on - don't see any follow through on that

I think the Internet comment was in reference to specific areas - It's been taken out of Context - he didn't say he would cut off the internet entirely - but that he would need to talk with people like Bill Gates, to see what options there are, in terms of restricting criminals using the Internet to commit further criminal acts.

Voltaire

2nd February 2017, 15:57

The Muslim ban that's not a Muslim ban.

why is Saudi Arabia not on the list?

Because Trump knows 911 was as inside job :killingme

yokel

2nd February 2017, 16:51

Here's a list of the country of origin of fatal jihadist terrorist attacks on US soil

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kyrgyzstan, Kuwait, Pakistan, USA, (New York.)

Don't see any of those countries on the banned list - and these are not potential threats - these are actual attacks.

There have been non-fatal attacks from citizens of these countries:

Britain (ban them?) Afghanistan, Nigeria, Guinea, Iran and Somalia (the last two are on Trump's list).

If Trump wanted to ban citizens of the countries which have actually carried out the jihadi terrorist attacks on US soil, the list would be Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kyrgyzstan, Kuwait, Pakistan, Britain, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Guinea, Iran and Somalia.

This ban looks a lot like posturing - and has bugger all to do with who actually carried out the attacks.

You'll have to ask the Obama administration, apparently they come up with the list back in 2011, you know after they fucked over Libya and the like.

Seen as terrorism is a crock shit, this restriction of movement of refugees should not be taken at face value.

Could be to stop the flow of fresh meat for the Clinton pedos?

https://youtu.be/n0zz5WxzjV0

Virago

2nd February 2017, 17:41

Seen as terrorism is a crock shit, this restriction of movement of refugees should not be taken at face value.

Could be to stop the flow of fresh meat for the Clinton pedos?

Dude. Get some help. Seriously, get some help.

yokel

2nd February 2017, 18:11

Dude. Get some help. Seriously, get some help.

Nope, no help needed.
And you're clearly in no position to say who is indeed in need of help.
If anyone needs help it's the Clinton pedos.
Trump knows what they've been upto.

https://youtu.be/KMJoNl2RHIU

Woodman

2nd February 2017, 18:23

Dude. Get some help. Seriously, get some help.

Don.t discourage him.

Yokel, now you just carry on with all your really cool clever clogs posts. We all really like them and respect your ability to form an opinion all by yourself.

Grumph

2nd February 2017, 19:05

Well, after Trump's rant at Malcolm Turnbull, I bet Bill English isn't looking forward to any incoming calls...Wonder if he can arrange things so Paula takes it...

Given the post call rant on twitter, and the notice served on Iran, I hope someone in the Iranian Govt has a twitter feed.
They may wake up and find he's declared war via a tweet....

Katman

2nd February 2017, 19:38

Dude. Get some help. Seriously, get some help.

Well actually, the triangle symbol is most certainly there on the Ratcliffe website.

Check for yourself.

http://radcliffefoundation.org/project/elpida-home/

Whether it indicates anything or not is anyone's guess.

It's a bit weird though.

yokel

2nd February 2017, 20:05

Well actually, the triangle symbol is most certainly there on the Ratcliffe website.

Check for yourself.

http://radcliffefoundation.org/project/elpida-home/

Whether it indicates anything or not is anyone's guess.

It's a bit weird though.

They're not the only ones to use that logo https://youtu.be/tkzklwBW-vo (edit that's actually has something to do with the Radcliffe foundation)

If you're human trafficker, what better thing to be involved in?

Oh yeah, and then there's Nicole Kidman's Dad....

Brian d marge

2nd February 2017, 20:07

Paula Bennet her relative in England I think was called Gordon
Her and crusher Collins ideal candidates for the Trump alliance ...

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Berries

2nd February 2017, 20:18

So when is this election then? It must be getting close.

YellowDog

2nd February 2017, 20:26

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Oakie

2nd February 2017, 21:43

husaberg

2nd February 2017, 21:53

yokel

3rd February 2017, 05:53

Coincidentally, it occurred to me a few days ago that USA is becoming more like North Korea. More isolationist, seeming not to care what others think, distrusting of outsiders, inward looking and with a nutter in charge of nuclear arms.

Coincidentally, it occurred to me a few days ago that the muppet media use the wrong words and is full of "double speak".

eg,calling being independent a "isolationist".

Why should Trump care much about what others think, specially when that thinking is counter productive and sometimes just retarded.

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Grumph

3rd February 2017, 06:20

Coincidentally, it occurred to me a few days ago that USA is becoming more like North Korea. More isolationist, seeming not to care what others think, distrusting of outsiders, inward looking and with a nutter in charge of nuclear arms.

And badly internally divided. Small town USA distrusts the cities, the city dwellers don't believe what small town USA has elected.

Whoever thought up the campaign to make the population distrust the media was brilliant when you look at what has ensued from that.

Now comes the campaign to make sure that the heartland believes that the only saviour is Trump - all else are fake news.

Oakie

3rd February 2017, 18:26

Coincidentally, it occurred to me a few days ago that the muppet media use the wrong words and is full of "double speak". eg,calling being independent a "isolationist". Can't say I've heard the media actually use the term ... it was my own opinion. I guess they could have though. Regardless, telling a company that if it builds things overseas and imports them back home they'll be slapped with huge levies at the border is more about isolation than independance.

husaberg

3rd February 2017, 18:55

Grumph

3rd February 2017, 19:21

Coincidentally, it occurred to me a few days ago that the muppet media use the wrong words and is full of "double speak".

eg,calling being independent a "isolationist".

Why should Trump care much about what others think, specially when that thinking is counter productive and sometimes just retarded.

Perhaps "anti globalist" would suit better. From what I see on other forums, if you declare yourself a globalist in the US now, the wrath of the good 'ol boys and the god botherers will descend upon you...Globalism is unpatriotic I have on good authority. And probably ungodly....

Trump should in fact care what others think, despite the US' undoubted power, they're not self sufficient and do need trading partners.
Being on good terms with them can also be fruitful...

Ocean1

3rd February 2017, 19:26

Regardless, telling a company that if it builds things overseas and imports them back home they'll be slapped with huge levies at the border is more about isolation than independance.

It'll also make fuck all difference to the price.

Do these fuckwits really believe that they can make manufacturers come back to the US, pay US wages and overheads and not double the product's price?

husaberg

3rd February 2017, 20:10

Perhaps "anti globalist" would suit better. From what I see on other forums, if you declare yourself a globalist in the US now, the wrath of the good 'ol boys and the god botherers will descend upon you...Globalism is unpatriotic I have on good authority. And probably ungodly....

Trump should in fact care what others think, despite the US' undoubted power, they're not self sufficient and do need trading partners.
Being on good terms with them can also be fruitful...

First sign of any bully tacits from Trump we should limit the amount of cheese we export them...........:laugh:

pritch

3rd February 2017, 20:19

Bearing in mind that the US participation in the Vietnam war was started with a lie about an attack on US ships in the Tonkin Gulf, and that George W's war in Iraq was started with a lie about non-existent weapons of mass destruction. The efforts of the Trump administration to lie about a Houti rebel attack on a Saudi ship, and present it as "an attack by Iran on one of our ships" should ring a bell. An alarm bell. Those who do not learn from history...

Any hopes that Trump would become "Presidential" have proved unfounded. He's the same ignorant, arrogant, fuckwit he always was, except that now he's being manipulated by a dangerous arsehole who is a lot smarter than he is.

husaberg

3rd February 2017, 20:23

Bea
He's the same ignorant, arrogant, fuckwit he always was, except that now he's being manipulated by a dangerous arsehole who is a lot smarter than he is.

Every member of KB other than Yokel?

oldrider

3rd February 2017, 21:11

jasonu

4th February 2017, 04:05

double the product's price?

It would still be cheaper than in NZ.

jasonu

4th February 2017, 04:06

Every member of KB other than Yokel?

and Cassina.

husaberg

4th February 2017, 05:12

and Cassina.

By Yokel, i of course, meant Katman and Cassina as well:niceone:.

pritch

4th February 2017, 09:20

It just gets more weird by the day. Kellyanne Conway when being asked on TV about the muslim ban pointed out that Obama had done a similar thing previously when two Iraqis became radicalised and organised the massacre at Bowling Green (Kentucky). What's wrong with that? Nothing, except that the "Bowling Green Massacre" exists entirely in her mind. No such event took place. Well, not yet anyway.

The Department of Defence had an Al Queda video clip on their website, apparently presented as captured during the recent botched raid. Unfortunately people recognised the clip as one that had been shown previously, closer examination showed the clip to be ten years old. The DOD have now removed the clip from their website. That clip is about as believable as the Pentagon statements about the raid.

Trump tweeted overnight about paid protesters. People are wondering how they might go about getting one of these paid protester positions. The "paid protesters" was fake news. The only person genuinely known to have paid people to attend a political meeting is Trump himself. Although the firm that he engaged to organise the casting call had to wait months for their money.

Grumph

4th February 2017, 11:46

Ocean1

4th February 2017, 12:10

It would still be cheaper than in NZ.

It fucking should be if it's built there and then trundled half way around the world.

The thing is, shit's currently cheap as chips because the US moved most of their manufacturing off shore, to where the wages were much, much lower.

Anyone that thinks they can bring it back without the associated cost increases is delusional.

Brian d marge

4th February 2017, 12:28

As far as i know the only massacre at Bowling Green Ky, was when T C Christensen took out a mess of Harleys on the "Hogslayer" Norton double...

Used to be a very famous drag race meeting there. Well, this is still a M/c forum...

The presentation of "alternative facts" has got to get somewhat better. This administration is under more scrutiny than any previous.
How he did that I will never know , even in standard form , what was it the "combat?? " cant remember which , but the internal were at the limit. Im surprised they even concidered putting that thing into production

then to drag race it ... must have cost him a fortune

husaberg

4th February 2017, 13:22

It fucking should be if it's built there and then trundled half way around the world.

The thing is, shit's currently cheap as chips because the US moved most of their manufacturing off shore, to where the wages were much, much lower.

Anyone that thinks they can bring it back without the associated cost increases is delusional.

Thats part two of the plan, As trump believes you should be greatful for the oportunity to work for pitance in Don Trump run America ...

oldrider

4th February 2017, 21:12

America’s Drums of War: White House Issues War Threat Against Iran: http://www.globalresearch.ca/americas-drums-of-war-white-house-issues-war-threat-against-iran/5572420 :wait:

US Betrays Iran Deal as Predicted – Edges Closer to War: http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-betrays-iran-deal-as-predicted-edges-closer-to-war/5572348?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

yokel

5th February 2017, 06:26

Can't say I've heard the media actually use the term ... it was my own opinion. I guess they could have though. Regardless, telling a company that if it builds things overseas and imports them back home they'll be slapped with huge levies at the border is more about isolation than independance.

Do you honestly believe you come up with that shit all by yourself?
Ha that's funny.

You do realise that shit comes from the same outfit that legitimately calls Bruce / Catlyn Jenner a "woman"

Perhaps "anti globalist" would suit better. From what I see on other forums, if you declare yourself a globalist in the US now, the wrath of the good 'ol boys and the god botherers will descend upon you...Globalism is unpatriotic I have on good authority. And probably ungodly....

Trump should in fact care what others think, despite the US' undoubted power, they're not self sufficient and do need trading partners.
Being on good terms with them can also be fruitful...

Perhaps, or nationalism.

If you want New Zealand to become a district of global governance?
Well I guess it's going to happen anyway or SHIFT.

https://youtu.be/DMHJbbYx5WE

yokel

5th February 2017, 06:59

A bunch of mentally enslaved morons egged on by the fascist media.

I'd say these cowards behind their covered up faces are mostly anarchists.

"The fascist of the future will be called the anti-fascists" - Winston Churchill

https://youtu.be/hwzffeICkP8

pzkpfw

5th February 2017, 07:07

It just gets more weird by the day. Kellyanne Conway when being asked on TV about the muslim ban pointed out that Obama had done a similar thing previously when two Iraqis became radicalised and organised the massacre at Bowling Green (Kentucky). What's wrong with that? Nothing, except that the "Bowling Green Massacre" exists entirely in her mind. No such event took place. Well, not yet anyway.
...

I've begun to wonder if that's a brilliant piece of misdirection.

The "massacre" was used as the claimed trigger for a 6 month ban on Iraqi refugees.

... but that ban also didn't happen. (Actual event was re-vetting of said refugees, after those two guys were arrested, and this caused delays. There was no outright ban).

Now, however, everyone who knows about the false claim talks about the massacre that didn't happen, and she apologised for it. Nobody seems to be talking about how the 6 month ban was also false. (I noticed this on network news, not just internet forums).

It's like their style is to use one outrageous falsehood to act as a "sacrificial fact" to mask another slightly more complex less outrageous falsehood. Bannon/Breitbart influence on style?

Laava

5th February 2017, 07:40

I've begun to wonder if that's a brilliant piece of misdirection.

The "massacre" was used as the claimed trigger for a 6 month ban on Iraqi refugees.

... but that ban also didn't happen. (Actual event was re-vetting of said refugees, after those two guys were arrested, and this caused delays. There was no outright ban).

Now, however, everyone who knows about the false claim talks about the massacre that didn't happen, and she apologised for it. Nobody seems to be talking about how the 6 month ban was also false. (I noticed this on network news, not just internet forums).

It's like their style is to use one outrageous falsehood to act as a "sacrificial fact" to mask another slightly more complex less outrageous falsehood. Bannon/Breitbart influence on style?

So if the massacre didn't happen, what were the two guys arrested for?

Ocean1

5th February 2017, 07:41

Thats part two of the plan, As trump believes you should be greatful for the oportunity to work for pitance in Don Trump run America ...

Aye, the fly in the ointment there being "what Trump believes".

His ignorance is simply unbelievable, even a very basic review of history would indicate that market protectionism produces exactly the opposite result to what he's suggesting: http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/International-Relations/Who-will-lose-in-the-looming-US-China-trade-war

US trade policy has always been about bullying smaller markets into line, it's what their whole standard of living is based on, it'll be interesting to see how the new big kids on the block respond to those tactics.

pzkpfw

5th February 2017, 08:40

So if the massacre didn't happen, what were the two guys arrested for?

Are you kidding?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/02/03/kellyanne-conway-cites-bowling-green-massacre-that-never-happened-to-defend-travel-ban/?utm_term=.f4f26c8ac7f7

(
This is part of the cleverness - Trump supporters will say "they were 'bad guys' anyway, so what does it matter if the facts got a bit muddled?".
)

pritch

5th February 2017, 08:47

So if the massacre didn't happen, what were the two guys arrested for?

They were collecting weapons to send back to Iraq. There was no massacre, nobody was even injured. This was on our TV news last night.

Ocean's comment about Trump's unbelievable ignorance is on the mark. Overnight Trump tweeted about the "so called judge" that stopped his muslim ban executive order.

Trump is completely ignorant of the relationship between the executive and the courts, and how the courts are supposed be a safeguard against abuse of power by politicians.

Very few in his administration even know how government is supposed to work, the few who do appear to have a battle to educate the others. Trump doesn't understand that he is not a dictator. Yet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/04/president-trumps-do-it-myself-approach-just-suffered-a-big-and-rare-early-setback/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na

Katman

5th February 2017, 09:07

Laava

5th February 2017, 10:05

They were collecting weapons to send back to Iraq. There was no massacre, nobody was even injured. This was on our TV news last night.

Ocean's comment about Trump's unbelievable ignorance is on the mark. Overnight Trump tweeted about the "so called judge" that stopped his muslim ban executive order.

Trump is completely ignorant of the relationship between the executive and the courts, and how the courts are supposed be a safeguard against abuse of power by politicians.

Very few in his administration even know how government is supposed to work, the few who do appear to have a battle to educate the others. Trump doesn't understand that he is not a dictator. Yet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/04/president-trumps-do-it-myself-approach-just-suffered-a-big-and-rare-early-setback/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na

K, haven't seen the news fir a coupla days and to be honest, anythng mentioning trump seems to dull my hearing quite a bit. You are right, there is a lot trump doesn't understand, starting with basic communication. He is shitting in his own nest, sooner or later he is just gonna flush himself out.

husaberg

5th February 2017, 12:06

Aye, the fly in the ointment there being "what Trump believes".

His ignorance is simply unbelievable, even a very basic review of history would indicate that market protectionism produces exactly the opposite result to what he's suggesting: http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/International-Relations/Who-will-lose-in-the-looming-US-China-trade-war

US trade policy has always been about bullying smaller markets into line, it's what their whole standard of living is based on, it'll be interesting to see how the new big kids on the block respond to those tactics.
His ignorance is will continue to get wors, mostly e as he has surrounded himself exclusively with “Yes” men that will continue feeding with ego with "alternative facts", they will do this simply because as his out of control ego won't accept he is thought of as being a f-wit by most of the world. .....Sounds exactly like a few KB Narcissistic trolls, only i guess he is clearly more successful.

Ocean1

5th February 2017, 12:15

Trump is completely ignorant of the relationship between the executive and the courts, and how the courts are supposed be a safeguard against abuse of power by politicians.

One of the key differences compared to the Westminster model: non-partisan public service entities, including the judiciary.

Which is probably a bigger actual threat to it's perception as a democratic institution than the extra separation from its electorate caused by the use of electoral colleges.

I'm not even sure how they justify the continued use of the distorted Westminster split house system, it no longer seems to add anything by way of the original's safeguards, simply completely cripples the government of any divided term.

Perhaps our setup isn't so bad, eh?

Ocean1

5th February 2017, 12:21

pritch

5th February 2017, 12:27

His ignorance is will continue to get wors, mostly e as he has surrounded himself exclusively with “Yes” men that will continue feeding with ego with "alternative facts", they will do this simply because as his out of control ego won't accept he is thought of as being a f-wit by most of the world. .....Sounds exactly like a few KB Narcissistic trolls, only i guess he is clearly more successful.

I'm not sure if he is *that* successful. One theory is that he only stood as a candidate to increase his bargaining power for his "Apprentice" TV show. It all got rather out of hand as he never actually intended to be the Republican candidate let alone President.

Another theory which may or may not be correct - but seems to make sense - is that he believes what he sees on TV. He doesn't read, nor does he seem to be at all curious, and that's a worry because his channel of choice appears to be FOX News. Several times he has posted an angry tweet within minutes of the same topic being mentioned on FOX.

There have been instances where members of his team have gone on TV apparently in opposition to him. People wondered what was going on. Now it seems they do that to get his attention, as their comments will get more credibility with him because he saw it on TV.

It's OK though, he's only the leader of the free world. :whistle:

Grumph

5th February 2017, 12:51

One of the key differences compared to the Westminster model: non-partisan public service entities, including the judiciary.

Which is probably a bigger actual threat to it's perception as a democratic institution than the extra separation from its electorate caused by the use of electoral colleges.

I'm not even sure how they justify the continued use of the distorted Westminster split house system, it no longer seems to add anything by way of the original's safeguards, simply completely cripples the government of any divided term.

Perhaps our setup isn't so bad, eh?

I see one of Gareth Morgan's ideas is an upper house - to be at least 50% maori....How to cripple any government IMO.

What does seriously worry me about the US at present is the rise and rise of religious fervour since the election.
The crazies have come out of the religious closet. So much for separation of church and state.

Ocean1

5th February 2017, 12:58

I see one of Gareth Morgan's ideas is an upper house - to be at least 50% maori....How to cripple any government IMO.

What does seriously worry me about the US at present is the rise and rise of religious fervour since the election.
The crazies have come out of the religious closet. So much for separation of church and state.

It's to an electorate's advantage to separate state and church only if most of 'em aren't church members.

The US electorate self-identifies as 80% Christian. 60% of them believe the bible is historically somewhat accurate. 30% of them believe the bible is factually accurate.

Go right ahead and be as worried as you like, but the religious closet over there has always been quite open, they've got the government they wanted, make no mistake.

Brian d marge

5th February 2017, 13:28

It's in an electorate's advantage to separate state and church only if most of 'em aren't church members.

The US electorate self-identifies as 80% Christian. 60% of them believe the bible is historically somewhat accurate. 30% of them believe the bible is factually accurate.

Go right ahead and be as worried as you like, but the religious closet over there has always been quite open, they've got the government they wanted, make no mistake.
I'mafraid ocean is right , not the people , the people have been duped as usual. but as far as I can find out , the people in power havent changed, since georgie boy ,
here is trumps university
http://news.fordham.edu/tag/trump-presidency/

(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/07/17/yes-donald-trump-really-went-to-an-ivy-league-school/)https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/07/17/yes-donald-trump-really-went-to-an-ivy-league-school/

http://www.georgetown.edu/clinton-lectures.html

and I think, they are just as interbred as the British ,,, I heard somewhere that trumps dna goes back to one of the Frankish families of Europe as does Hitlarys
but I havent had time to look into that...so just hear say atm

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husaberg

5th February 2017, 15:09

Aye. If there's a culture that examplifies the Dunning Kruger effect the USA is it, and if there's a particular example he's got to be it.
https://hbr.org/2014/07/the-dangers-of-confidence
He. along with the kardasians and Paris Hilton Zsa Zsa Gabor etc etc is a textbook example of all that is wrong with the world.

I'm not sure if he is *that* successful. One theory is that he only stood as a candidate to increase his bargaining power for his "Apprentice" TV show. It all got rather out of hand as he never actually intended to be the Republican candidate let alone President.

Another theory which may or may not be correct - but seems to make sense - is that he believes what he sees on TV. He doesn't read, nor does he seem to be at all curious, and that's a worry because his channel of choice appears to be FOX News. Several times he has posted an angry tweet within minutes of the same topic being mentioned on FOX.

There have been instances where members of his team have gone on TV apparently in opposition to him. People wondered what was going on. Now it seems they do that to get his attention, as their comments will get more credibility with him because he saw it on TV.

It's OK though, he's only the leader of the free world. :whistle:

That all actually seems pretty creditable given his demeanour and past history, more interesting is his propensity of personally attacking the messenger rather than the message.
Which suggests he is emotionally stunted, prone to anger outbursts and personal attacks
This is something you would expect from a total narcissist, that has barely evolved past a 10 child’s emotional development.

One thing i would suggest about his reliance and preoccupation with Fox News is most likely because they often have attractive (in an american sense)female presenters.
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Often it seems in short skirts
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PrincessBandit

5th February 2017, 15:55

K, haven't seen the news fir a coupla days and to be honest, anythng mentioning trump seems to dull my hearing quite a bit. You are right, there is a lot trump doesn't understand, starting with basic communication. He is shitting in his own nest, sooner or later he is just gonna flush himself out.

I reckon it's all one almighty chess game and Trump's election to POTUS is just one in a loooong set of chess moves that perhaps he doesn't even realise. Or more likely wouldn't see even if it smacked him between the eyes.
My call is that the string pullers are all quietly working to set him up to "fire"/ impeach so they can put who they wanted in the top chair all along.

Katman

5th February 2017, 16:08

That all actually seems pretty creditable given his demeanour and past history, more interesting is his propensity of personally attacking the messenger rather than the message.
Which suggests he is emotionally stunted, prone to anger outbursts and personal attacks
This is something you would expect from a total narcissist, that has barely evolved past a 10 child’s emotional development.

https://goo.gl/images/Yq5lNI

husaberg

5th February 2017, 16:13

I reckon it's all one almighty chess game and Trump's election to POTUS is just one in a loooong set of chess moves that perhaps he doesn't even realise. Or more likely wouldn't see even if it smacked him between the eyes.
My call is that the string pullers are all quietly working to set him up to "fire"/ impeach so they can put who they wanted in the top chair all along.

Sorry without first changing the constitution, i can't see how that’s a viable theory
The pecking order works like this
1 Vice President... Mike Pence
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives..... Paul Ryan
3 President pro tempore of the Senate.... Orrin Hatch
4 Secretary of State ...Rex Tillerson
5 Secretary of the Treasury.. Adam Szubin
6 Secretary of Defense... James Mattis
None of those ran for the presidential nomination.
Interstingly number 5 is actually a Democrat while 6 is an independant.

PrincessBandit

5th February 2017, 16:19

Sorry without first changing the constitution, i can't see how that’s a viable theory
The pecking order works like this
1 Vice President... Mike Pence
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives..... Paul Ryan
3 President pro tempore of the Senate.... Orrin Hatch
4 Secretary of State ...Rex Tillerson
5 Secretary of the Treasury.. Adam Szubin
6 Secretary of Defense... James Mattis
None of those ran for the presidential nomination.
Interstingly number 5 is actually a Democrat while 6 is an independant.

I'm sure they'd find a way to "make it so". :msn-wink:

Katman

5th February 2017, 17:27

Quite frankly, what we're seeing now is probably the best thing that could have ever happened.

It has opened the eyes of countless people to the absurdity that is World Politics.

bogan

5th February 2017, 17:51

Quite frankly, what we're seeing now is probably the best thing that could have ever happened.

It has opened the eyes of countless people to the absurdity that is World Politics.

Has it though? Trump's campaign against the media and coining of the 'alternate facts' term is driving his followers away from open minded and logical thought into the pro-trump echo-chambers, paralleling what we've seen with the conspiracy theorists of the last two decades.

Katman

5th February 2017, 17:57

Must admit though, Trump's comment today (in reply to the interviewer calling Putin a 'killer') that America is equally guilty, was admirable.

Woodman

5th February 2017, 18:01

Quite frankly, what we're seeing now is probably the best thing that could have ever happened.

It has opened the eyes of countless people to the absurdity that is World Politics.

That's what I reckon too. Whether it does any good or not will remain to be seen, but I reckon world politics will not change dramatically after the trump sideshow, except that America will become less significant due to trumps "fuck the rest of the world" attitude. The rest of the world will just develop a "fuck you America" attitude.

Katman

5th February 2017, 18:12

The rest of the world will just develop a "fuck you America" attitude.

Wouldn't be a silly idea.

Brian d marge

5th February 2017, 18:43

Wouldn't be a silly idea.
America I don't have a problem with , it's the district of Columbia I have problems with

sent for a divine source

Grumph

5th February 2017, 18:58

America I don't have a problem with , it's the district of Columbia I have problems with

sent for a divine source

Well, besides DC, I'm currently having problems with a religious zealot from Tucson Az on another forum...The Canadians are all baiting him and another Kiwi is currently arguing with him...Prior to the election he appeared to be a reasonably competent auto sparky. Now...I don't know if he's stopped his meds or it's a brain tumor...
I'm seriously thinking of putting him in touch with Yokel. The posts of both of them might get a bit more interesting.

As an aside, the Canadians are agitating for a wall too...

Brian d marge

5th February 2017, 19:03

Well, besides DC, I'm currently having problems with a religious zealot from Tucson Az on another forum...The Canadians are all baiting him and another Kiwi is currently arguing with him...Prior to the election he appeared to be a reasonably competent auto sparky. Now...I don't know if he's stopped his meds or it's a brain tumor...
I'm seriously thinking of putting him in touch with Yokel. The posts of both of them might get a bit more interesting.

As an aside, the Canadians are agitating for a wall too...
The Chinese do a mighty fine wall..

And the church , not the one in Fulham where all the kiwis and Aussies went to , but the Roman one , that church is ..well dodgy

In fact wasn't Mike pense a choir boy for said church

sent for a divine source

husaberg

5th February 2017, 19:09

I'm sure they'd find a way to "make it so". :msn-wink:

Well logic dictates that you would think if there was all powerful machiavellian forces running things in the US they would find a far simple plan.
Plus a far more stable patsy.
You know KISS.

https://youtu.be/5xAMYHJYesM?t=1m9s

Katman

5th February 2017, 19:14

You know KISS.

They're probably not too bothered whether you manage to keep up or not.

husaberg

5th February 2017, 19:46

I want sharks with laser beams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60AjI1pIzVQ

YellowDog

6th February 2017, 07:57

I take it all back Mr Trump.

Wish I had a gold bike (even if it's an ape-mobile).

oldrider

6th February 2017, 08:30

Well, besides DC, I'm currently having problems with a religious zealot from Tucson Az on another forum...The Canadians are all baiting him and another Kiwi is currently arguing with him...Prior to the election he appeared to be a reasonably competent auto sparky. Now...I don't know if he's stopped his meds or it's a brain tumor...
I'm seriously thinking of putting him in touch with Yokel. The posts of both of them might get a bit more interesting.

As an aside, the Canadians are agitating for a wall too...

Interesting how majority will slag off any other religion as totally crap but Judaism is strictly off limits for anything except support! :shutup:

When Christians like Edbear or (way back) Zed post anything they are torn to bits! :spanking:

Funny too how you all accept that Jews are God's chosen people and that they "religiously" have every right to take Palestine for their own almost without question. :innocent:

Making no religious judgement here - simply observing people behaviour! :scratch: I ask myself quietly - why is this so? :confused:

husaberg

6th February 2017, 09:21

Interesting how majority will slag off any other religion as totally crap but Judaism is strictly off limits for anything except support! :shutup:

When Christians like Edbear or (way back) Zed post anything they are torn to bits! :spanking:

Funny too how you all accept that Jews are God's chosen people and that they "religiously" have every right to take Palestine for their own almost without question. :innocent:

Making no religious judgement here - simply observing people behaviour! :scratch: I ask myself quietly - why is this so? :confused:

Okay Oldie Find me a single post on KB where someone has epoused the virues of judaism compared to other religions, Hint it may be all in your head.
Also you seem to be confused with your posts that constantly slag of an entire race of people with a religon.

Grumph

6th February 2017, 09:43

Interesting how majority will slag off any other religion as totally crap but Judaism is strictly off limits for anything except support! :shutup:

When Christians like Edbear or (way back) Zed post anything they are torn to bits! :spanking:

Funny too how you all accept that Jews are God's chosen people and that they "religiously" have every right to take Palestine for their own almost without question. :innocent:

Making no religious judgement here - simply observing people behaviour! :scratch: I ask myself quietly - why is this so? :confused:

DO NOT accuse me of favouring any religion AT ALL.

They're ALL crap

THERE IS NO GOD

Got that ?

oldrider

6th February 2017, 10:06

Okay Oldie Find me a single post on KB where someone has epoused the virues of judaism compared to other religions, Hint it may be all in your head.
Also you seem to be confused with your posts that constantly slag of an entire race of people with a religon.

I think these guy's know who they are even if you don't!: http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm You should try reading before ranting for a change! :weird:

• In the Bible, Jews were called Hebrews or Children of Israel
• The terms "Jew" and "Judaism" come from the tribe or kingdom of Judah
• "Jew" now refers to all physical and spiritual descendants of Jacob
• A person can be Jewish by birth or by conversion
• Traditionally, Jewish status passes through the mother, not the father

husaberg

6th February 2017, 10:11

blather...........

Interesting how majority will slag off any other religion as totally crap but Judaism is strictly off limits for anything except support! :shutup:
When Christians like Edbear or (way back) Zed post anything they are torn to bits!

Okay Oldie Find me a single post on KB where someone has epoused the virues of judaism compared to other religions.?

How about you actually answer the question i posted to you.
Go on it can't be that hard.

oldrider

6th February 2017, 11:43

There is definitely a shill in air on KB! :sick:

husaberg

6th February 2017, 12:06

There is definitely a shill in air on KB! :sick:

How about you answer the question, rather then just posting yet another racially motivated conspiracy theory.

Interesting how majority will slag off any other religion as totally crap but Judaism is strictly off limits for anything except support! :shutup:
When Christians like Edbear or (way back) Zed post anything they are torn to bits!

Okay Oldie Find me a single post on KB where someone has epoused the virues of judaism compared to other religions?
Or is it just like your "Myth of antisemitism"

All dependent upon protection by the myth of anti-Semitism and the ignorance of the masses! (Goyim - non Jew etc) Still stronger than ever today! :confused:
Hitler's Germany dared to expose them by controlling Germany's own money system and are still paying the price for that "crime" today!
Thanks again to mass ignorance of the Gentile or non Jew and the perpetuation of the anti-Semitic myth! :zzzz: Time to wake up? :shit:
Or germany's No debt war

or historic facts about German history under Hitler such as this for example:
"Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 on, which accounts for Germany's startling rise from the depression to a world power in five years. The German government financed its entire operations from 1935 to 1945 without gold, and without debt.

pritch

6th February 2017, 12:37

Superbowl 51 is on. I know very little of the game but OK, I've got time to watch. Neither team held any particular interest for me, The Patriots I'd heard of, the Falcons less so. In the pre match hoo ra ra with one exception the pundits all predicted a Patriots win. That alone was almost enough to make me a Falcons fan, then I read that the Patriots' owner, their coach, and their quarteback are all Trump fans.

Go the Falcons! :2thumbsup

oldrider

6th February 2017, 13:06

How about you answer the question

I don't even recognise that you exist as a person - why on earth do you think I would want to answer your stupid question? :laugh:

Grumph

6th February 2017, 13:08

I laughed at the literal rolling out of George and Mrs Bush...Are we sure they aren't stuffed ?

Brian d marge

6th February 2017, 13:24

Okay Oldie Find me a single post on KB where someone has epoused the virues of judaism compared to other religions, Hint it may be all in your head.
Also you seem to be confused with your posts that constantly slag of an entire race of people with a religon.
I posted one the other day .They were playing
A wicked pink Floyd cover

sent for a divine source

pritch

6th February 2017, 13:52

I laughed at the literal rolling out of George and Mrs Bush...Are we sure they aren't stuffed ?

Well they were pretty stuffed, they both only just made it out of hospital. It Looked like Bush 41 was barely able to toss the coin. Sad really, but presumably preferable to getting #45 to do it.

Actually something I'm looking forward to, in rather sadistic fashion, is the first throw of the next baseball season. If it was me I'd be practicing hard out so as not to humiliate myself in front of millions. Daresay this hasn't even crossed the mind of the victim, errr guest of honour. :whistle:

Brian d marge

6th February 2017, 13:56

DO NOT accuse me of favouring any religion AT ALL.

They're ALL crap

THERE IS NO GOD

Got that ?
my wife thinks there is
she is always shouting "oh god ,oh god"

Voltaire

6th February 2017, 14:40

DO NOT accuse me of favouring any religion AT ALL.

They're ALL crap

THERE IS NO GOD

Got that ?

There must be, surely 1/2 the worlds population can't be wrong?:innocent:

Next you'll be saying religions are all run by self serving money grubbing snake oil salesmen.

Grumph

6th February 2017, 14:41

my wife thinks there is
she is always shouting "oh god ,oh god"

Stop playing with your crossbow indoors....

Grumph

6th February 2017, 14:43

There must be, surely 1/2 the worlds population can't be wrong?:innocent:

Next you'll be saying religions are all run by self serving money grubbing snake oil salesmen.

The first person who came up with the idea of a god and "I am his servant" guaranteed himself a job for life....and free food.

husaberg

6th February 2017, 14:51

I don't even recognise that you exist as a person - why on earth do you think I would want to answer your stupid question? :laugh:

You can't answer the questions because an answer would expose that you are a old bigoted fool.
So rather than answering a rather easy questions, about what you posted as being facts. You go all bitchy and sullen.

Interesting how majority will slag off any other religion as totally crap but Judaism is strictly off limits for anything except support! :shutup:
When Christians like Edbear or (way back) Zed post anything they are torn to bits!

Okay Oldie Find me a single post on KB where someone has epoused the virues of judaism compared to other religions?
Or is it just like your "Myth of antisemitism"

All dependent upon protection by the myth of anti-Semitism and the ignorance of the masses! (Goyim - non Jew etc) Still stronger than ever today! :confused:
Hitler's Germany dared to expose them by controlling Germany's own money system and are still paying the price for that "crime" today!
Thanks again to mass ignorance of the Gentile or non Jew and the perpetuation of the anti-Semitic myth! :zzzz: Time to wake up? :shit:
Or Germany's No debt war

or historic facts about German history under Hitler such as this for example:
"Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 on, which accounts for Germany's startling rise from the depression to a world power in five years. The German government financed its entire operations from 1935 to 1945 without gold, and without debt.

Brian d marge

6th February 2017, 14:52

Stop playing with your crossbow indoors....
Recurve ..... Hahaha

sent for a divine source

jasonu

6th February 2017, 15:24

I laughed at the literal rolling out of George and Mrs Bush...Are we sure they aren't stuffed ?

Old Bush looks like he is nearly stuffed...

F5 Dave

6th February 2017, 20:09

Brian d marge

6th February 2017, 20:15

You don't know the half of it oldrider. I probably shouldn't say anything, but once we've wrecked the economy and taken control of the politicians and police, and we're almost there, we are going to come for those who tried to warn the others against us. We've been collecting IP addresses and customer data.
Are those footsteps outside going to pass or stop tonight?
Already done, and if you do speak out you:
Suicide by two bullets in the back of the head
Car crash 50m from your house killing everyone
Helicopter crash
Or even the odd fall or pillow while sleeping or bar bell slipping while exercising
Wonder what they will get up to next ...

sent for a divine source

pritch

6th February 2017, 20:15

Voltaire

6th February 2017, 20:29

Well I enjoyed most of the game, all except the last few seconds. :weep:

Interesting development on the judicial front: 97 companies including Apple. Intel, LinkedIn, Microsoft, Facebook, Levi Strauss, E Bay, Reddit, Strava, Uber, etc, etc, have filed a "friend of the court" brief opposing Trump's Muslim ban.

Its easier than filing a tax return in the country they operate in.

Has anyone else noticed how cheap levis feel these days ?

husaberg

6th February 2017, 20:36

Its easier than filing a tax return in the country they operate in.

Has anyone else noticed how cheap levis feel these days ?

Just buy a set of CK's, Diesels or RL's, they are as thick as the old Levis.

Woodman

6th February 2017, 20:47

Pants, this thread is now pants............

husaberg

6th February 2017, 21:10

Pants, this thread is now pants............

And Strauss was such a good german name too:whistle:

Stylo

6th February 2017, 22:51

If Trump see's another Christmas as president, I'll eat my hat ( mental note: must buy a hat ).

pritch

7th February 2017, 08:21

If Trump see's another Christmas as president, I'll eat my hat ( mental note: must buy a hat ).

Yeah helmets are a bit crunchy.

Husaberg, Strauss might sound German but Levi sounds Jewish. (:psst: Better keep that quiet though.)

Banditbandit

7th February 2017, 10:58

my wife thinks there is
she is always shouting "oh god ,oh god"

Well maybe if you did the dishes and vacuum the house once a week she might not be so angry ..

Grumph

7th February 2017, 11:13

Well I enjoyed most of the game, all except the last few seconds. :weep:

Interesting development on the judicial front: 97 companies including Apple. Intel, LinkedIn, Microsoft, Facebook, Levi Strauss, E Bay, Reddit, Strava, Uber, etc, etc, have filed a "friend of the court" brief opposing Trump's Muslim ban.

And something like 150 canadian based companies have published an open letter telling skilled migrants they are welcome in Canada...
As one door closes, another opens.

pritch

7th February 2017, 11:59

And something like 150 canadian based companies have published an open letter telling skilled migrants they are welcome in Canada...
As one door closes, another opens.

In the last day or so I saw a report that says there is agitation in Canada for a border wall there too. When the Trump voters find out they were sold a crock of shit they might start heading north 'cause they won't be able to live in the US - and Mexico won't want them. :whistle:

On a slightly more worrying note Trump told US military personnel that there are frequent terrorist attacks occuring in Europe that aren't reported 'cause, you know, reasons.

Kellyanne Conway says that when she mentioned the Bowling Green massacre it was a mistake, she mispoke, she got one word wrong, she meant to say terrorists. It now turns out that she has mentioned her imaginary massacre on at least two other occasions. Trump's whole team is living in a fantasy world.

Brian d marge

7th February 2017, 12:26

Well maybe if you did the dishes and vacuum the house once a week she might not be so angry ..

tropic thunder........

jasonu

7th February 2017, 12:34

Just buy a set of CK's, Diesels or RL's, they are as thick as the old Levis.

If you are a name brand big noter poof i suppose...

Carhartts are as good as it gets for work wear.

Grumph

7th February 2017, 13:25

In the last day or so I saw a report that says there is agitation in Canada for a border wall there too. When the Trump voters find out they were sold a crock of shit they might start heading north 'cause they won't be able to live in the US - and Mexico won't want them. :whistle:

On a slightly more worrying note Trump told US military personnel that there are frequent terrorist attacks occuring in Europe that aren't reported 'cause, you know, reasons.

Kellyanne Conway says that when she mentioned the Bowling Green massacre it was a mistake, she mispoke, she got one word wrong, she meant to say terrorists. It now turns out that she has mentioned her imaginary massacre on at least two other occasions. Trump's whole team is living in a fantasy world.

can't argue with that conclusion.
Initially the Canadians were asking for a wall as a joke - it's actually getting serious in some areas now, LOL.

husaberg

7th February 2017, 15:48

If you are a name brand big noter poof i suppose...

Carhartts are as good as it gets for work wear.

No idea who Carhart are but the ones i mentioned are better than the D&G and Levis ones which are rather thin and cheap material now.
Bsides If you were going to be a jeans band name poofer these days you would be wearing some raw japanese ones

jasonu

7th February 2017, 16:02

.
Bsides If you were going to be a jeans band name poofer these days you would be wearing some raw japanese ones

and drinking $9 lattes at some ponsey sidewalk cafe in Parnell.

husaberg

7th February 2017, 16:26

and drinking $9 lattes at some ponsey sidewalk cafe in Parnell.

Ie.... slumming it Auckland style

Brian d marge

7th February 2017, 16:30

and drinking $9 lattes at some ponsey sidewalk cafe in Parnell.
Fk that's cheap
That fair trade coffee is really helping u fellas out

sent for a divine source

Virago

7th February 2017, 17:00

my wife thinks there is
she is always shouting "oh god ,oh god"

I can confirm that.

Virago

7th February 2017, 17:05

...What does seriously worry me about the US at present is the rise and rise of religious fervour since the election.
The crazies have come out of the religious closet. So much for separation of church and state.

It's not just the US. I'm aware of more than one religious group in NZ hailing him as a triumphant messiah.

husaberg

7th February 2017, 18:49

my wife thinks there is
she is always shouting "oh god ,oh god"

I think she is requesting some divine intervention rather, than your further deviant attention.:bleh:

oldrider

8th February 2017, 07:53

Emboldened by the Trump victory in America? :- http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-legalizes-palestinian-land-theft-entire-land-is-ours/5573441 Alls fair in love and war apparently! :corn:

Voltaire

8th February 2017, 14:04

and drinking $9 lattes at some ponsey sidewalk cafe in Parnell.

Parnell.....long time since that has been trendy.

jasonu

8th February 2017, 14:29

Parnell.....long time since that has been trendy.

Long time since I've been to Parnell...

Brian d marge

8th February 2017, 15:25

Emboldened by the Trump victory in America? :- http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-legalizes-palestinian-land-theft-entire-land-is-ours/5573441 Alls fair in love and war apparently! :corn:
Hoho u should see what he up to with the pipeline , and agency's
Now admittedly the whole place is corrupt, and I will give him his first 100 days , but he is sucking a ton of Jesuit cock.... Bent over backwards for the boys ...he is

sent for a divine source

oldrider

8th February 2017, 22:23

husaberg

8th February 2017, 23:03

Is The Trump Administration Already Over? - http://www.globalresearch.ca/is-the-trump-administration-already-over/5573287?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

Kevin Bloody Wilson song "It was over before it began" springs to mind! :rolleyes: Humming quietly in the background. :laugh:

from your link....

Israel has successfully used the corrupt British and now the corrupt Americans to reestablish themselves on lands from which God evicted them. This doesn’t speak well of the intelligence and morality of the British and US governments. But what does?

old god aye.........:laugh:

Interesting how majority will slag off any other religion as totally crap but Judaism is strictly off limits for anything except support! :shutup:

When Christians like Edbear or (way back) Zed post anything they are torn to bits! :spanking:

Funny too how you all accept that Jews are God's chosen people and that they "religiously" have every right to take Palestine for their own almost without question. :innocent:

Making no religious judgement here - simply observing people behaviour! :scratch: I ask myself quietly - why is this so? :confused:

F5 Dave

9th February 2017, 06:19

Maybe he should have put them on a bad tenants list:confused:

Grumph

9th February 2017, 06:46

Maybe he should have put them on a bad tenants list:confused:

Had to keep the commandments down to 10 to match the number of fingers & thumbs - "thou shalt not return" got dropped off the list....

oldrider

9th February 2017, 09:31

Castigating Trump for Truth-Telling: “You Think Our Country’s So Innocent?”:- http://www.globalresearch.ca/castigating-trump-for-truth-telling-you-think-our-countrys-so-innocent/5573654 :corn:

pritch

9th February 2017, 10:39

Castigating Trump for Truth-Telling: “You Think Our Country’s So Innocent?”

They were probably taken completely by surprise, nobody in full possession of their faculties expects Trump to be telling the truth.

Banditbandit

9th February 2017, 10:55

Ummm yeah .. from this perspective he is tellign the truth ...

From the US perspective they have the moral high-ground, so comparisons with killer regimes are not correct.

http://thehill.com/homenews/318086-retired-general-trumps-putin-remarks-most-anti-american-statement-ever-said-by

Katman

9th February 2017, 11:18

http://thehill.com/homenews/318086-retired-general-trumps-putin-remarks-most-anti-american-statement-ever-said-by

How can that stupid prick say that all that with a straight face?

oldrider

9th February 2017, 11:20

They were probably taken completely by surprise, nobody in full possession of their faculties expects Trump to be telling the truth.

Ummm yeah .. from this perspective he is tellign the truth ...

From the US perspective they have the moral high-ground, so comparisons with killer regimes are not correct.

http://thehill.com/homenews/318086-retired-general-trumps-putin-remarks-most-anti-american-statement-ever-said-by

Those American Generals must be the most brainwashed people on earth - probably more dangerous than the nuclear bombs themselves! :doh:

TheDemonLord

9th February 2017, 11:48

You see - this is why I'm starting to like Trump more and more.

He's not Perfect - but goddamn sometimes he is so incredibly on point.

Banditbandit

9th February 2017, 12:48

How can that stupid prick say that all that with a straight face?

Because they actually believe the bullshit - as I said, from our perspective, Trump is telling the truth - from their perspective, where they have the moral high ground and are taught that everything America does is right - - he is saying things they do not like. And it is his natural supporters who are objecting to this one ..

Brian d marge

9th February 2017, 12:53

How can that stupid prick say that all that with a straight face?
Bill had no problem , even with monica

sent for a divine source

Brian d marge

9th February 2017, 13:00

Because they actually believe the bullshit - as I said, from our perspective, Trump is telling the truth - from their perspective, where they have the moral high ground and are taught that everything America does is right - - he is saying things they do not like. And it is his natural supporters who are objecting to this one ..
Actually they do believe they are doing God's work
The whole place is so corrupt , it would make ur eyes water
The mafia are just boys playing with toys compared to this lot
Basically throwing the unwashed a scrap or two so that 5% doing get pissed and reliving the golden age
The ends justify the means
I don't think I'll make his first 100 days before passing judgement me thinks
Dodgy evil doers the lot of em

sent for a divine source

jasonu

9th February 2017, 14:03

How can that stupid prick say that all that with a straight face?

Because he is an old git that is stuck in the past.

oldrider

9th February 2017, 16:59

Listened to this just because it was there - found it interesting and topical to Trump's latest retort on truth!

9/11 and the Transporter Jihad:- http://www.globalresearch.ca/911-and-the-transporter-jihad/5573505 :corn:

Grumph

9th February 2017, 19:06

This is a pretty accurate reflection of the immigrant situation...

yokel

9th February 2017, 19:44

This is a pretty accurate reflection of the immigrant situation...

Are you muppets allergic to the combination of the words "illegal" and "immigrant"?

Trumps just doing what he said he would do, if he flip flopped then cunts would still complain that hes just another spineless politician.

oldrider

9th February 2017, 19:54

This is a pretty accurate reflection of the immigrant situation...

Thats clever stuff - :killingme

yokel

9th February 2017, 19:58

Thats clever stuff - :killingme

Yip, Trump hates immigrants so much he decided to marry some of em!

yokel

9th February 2017, 20:22

Now that Jeff Sessions is sworn in, apparently there's going to be a number of very VIP arrests coming in the next few weeks.

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Brian d marge

10th February 2017, 12:56

Trump and anglebox showing loyalty....

well he and Hitlary are royalty....

Stylo

10th February 2017, 16:58

He's just had a minor set-back

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-court-idUSKBN15O2XS

Petulant twat

husaberg

10th February 2017, 17:10

https://trumpathetic.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/trump_canada_wall.jpghttps://s32.postimg.org/y989sqi1h/2016_07_16_01_13_37.png

jasonu

10th February 2017, 17:27

Are you muppets allergic to the combination of the words "illegal" and "immigrant"?

Trumps just doing what he said he would do, if he flip flopped then cunts would still complain that hes just another spineless politician.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
He is doing what he said he would do and in a timely fashion, it's no wonder some cunts are confused...

Stylo

10th February 2017, 17:38

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
He is doing what he said he would do and in a timely fashion, it's no wonder some cunts are confused...

Oh dear ...

oldrider

10th February 2017, 17:49

Perfect example of why we only get fuckwits standing and nothing ever gets done - Auckland anyone? - Same shit today as when I lived there in early 1960's! :brick:

Grumph

10th February 2017, 18:57

Now we're hearing of hacking and false news around the French presidential elections.

I'd be surprised if our elections attract anything like this attention.....But you never know, Russia might want Gareth Morgan to win.
After all, they backed Trump....

pritch

10th February 2017, 20:13

He is doing what he said he would do and in a timely fashion, it's no wonder some cunts are confused...

Trouble is there's this little thing called the US Constitution that says he can't do that. Well, two courts have said that so far. More to come no doubt, but a popular opinion is that the government lawyers are not very good. That sounds about right, same as here. :whistle:

TheDemonLord

10th February 2017, 20:17

oldrider

10th February 2017, 20:25

pritch

10th February 2017, 20:27

That however will play right into Trump's position...

Well it's a sort of win/win for Trump. If he loses and there is an attack he will milk it. If he gets his way he'll milk that too. Never mind that nobody in the US has been killed by anyone from the seven countries he has listed.

But he hasn't thought of everything:

husaberg

10th February 2017, 20:28

Trouble is there's this little thing called the US Constitution that says he can't do that. Well, two courts have said that so far. More to come no doubt, but a popular opinion is that the government lawyers are not very good. That sounds about right, same as here. :whistle:
Trump election promises
I am going to Drop that "dirty, rotten traitor" Bowe Bergdahl out of an airplane into desolate Afghanistan without a parachute.

Refuse to call Iran's leader by his preferred title. "I guarantee you I will be never calling him the Supreme Leader... I'll say, 'Hey baby, how ya doing?' I will never call him the Supreme Leader."

Force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States. And bully Apple into making its "damn computers" and other products here.

Sign an executive order calling for the death penalty for anyone found guilty of killing a police officer.

End birthright citizenship.

Never take a vacation while serving as president.

Prosecute Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state.

Be unpredictable. "No one is going to touch us, because I'm so unpredictable."

Target and kill the relatives of terrorists.

"Bomb the s--- out of ISIS." Also bomb oil fields controlled by the Islamic State, then seize the oil and give the profits to military veterans who were wounded while fighting.

"I promise I will never be in a bicycle race. That I can tell you."

Voltaire

10th February 2017, 20:38

Perfect example of why we only get fuckwits standing and nothing ever gets done - Auckland anyone? - Same shit today as when I lived there in early 1960's! :brick:

I suppose if you liked instant coffee and the only take aways being Fish and Chips.
Other than the traffic I prefer Auckland now.
Its good all the bigots live in the Provinces.

http://static.stuff.co.nz/1451941243/463/13579463.jpg

oldrider

10th February 2017, 20:54

I suppose if you liked instant coffee and the only take aways being Fish and Chips.
Other than the traffic I prefer Auckland now.
Its good all the bigots live in the Provinces.

The traffic is the main thing that I was referring to!

Sir Dove-Myer Robinson wanted to start fixing it way back and all there really (apart from the growth) has been is talk! :brick:

Bigot crack I thought was beneath you - but oh well :yawn:

oldrider

11th February 2017, 02:55

Berries

11th February 2017, 07:44

Its good all the bigots live in the Provinces.
Well there's no room in Auckland for us due to all the Chinese.

Zedder

11th February 2017, 08:55

Well there's no room in Auckland for us due to all the Chinese.

Southland's growing Chinese population: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/73395481/southlands-asian-population-fastestgrowing-in-nz--report

pritch

11th February 2017, 10:06

Unlike Russian Wars, US Wars ‘Promote Freedom and Democracy’: New York Times: http://www.globalresearch.ca/unlike-russian-wars-us-wars-promote-freedom-and-democracy-new-york-times/5573990 :rolleyes: Normalcy raging? :yes:

Meanwhile back in the real world! :Oops: - None so blind as those who will not see! :cool:

Once upon a time it was said that if it hadn't been reported in the New York Times it hadn't happened. During the recent US election though they seemed to have lost the plot completely and there is no sign as yet that they have found it. Fuckem! I'll read the Washington post.

oldrider

11th February 2017, 10:06

Very cosmopolitan in Oamaru these days - lots of Tongans, Filipinos, Chinese, Indians, Europeans and miscellaneous tourists of all kinds!

Towns a buzzing - no complaints it's great! :niceone:

eldog

11th February 2017, 11:10

Well there's no room in Auckland for us due to all the Chinese.

They are slowly replacing the 'New Zealanders' in the engineering workplace

they turn up to work. Monday to Friday

Brian d marge

11th February 2017, 13:05

Once upon a time it was said that if it hadn't been reported in the New York Times it hadn't happened. During the recent US election though they seemed to have lost the plot completely and there is no sign as yet that they have found it. Fuckem! I'll read the Washington post.

Time warner , Disney, Vavendi , Via com, news corp, Bartelmann AG,

These are the owners of the news, and as far as I know, Bartlemann ag is the largest publisher of English language books ....yes they are jerman

As fro anything in NZ ...... ( dont get me started on the newspeak that is Japan !)

Voltaire

11th February 2017, 17:04

They are slowly replacing the 'New Zealanders' in the engineering workplace

they turn up to work. Monday to Friday

House being built across the road for Chinese owners had Chinese builders, they are there when i go to work at 7 and after my

3 hour fukn townie trip home* they are still there as I watch MSM news at 6:00 absorbing all the news of the day.

* courtesy axhole alternative facts.com

jasonu

11th February 2017, 17:37

Woodman

11th February 2017, 17:55

They are slowly replacing the 'New Zealanders' in the engineering workplace

they turn up to work. Monday to Friday

I do a bit of work in the marine industry and the Asians* are indeed taking over the workforce. The biggest problem with them is if they don't get enough overtime they start looking for jobs elsewhere. That's why it always makes me laugh when you hear "proper kiwis" moaning about immigrants taking all their jobs. Man up guys they haven't taken your jobs, you gave them away.

*Various ethnicities.

oldrider

11th February 2017, 17:57

House being built across the road for Chinese owners had Chinese builders, they are there when i go to work at 7 and after my

3 hour fukn townie trip home* they are still there as I watch MSM news at 6:00 absorbing all the news of the day.

* courtesy axhole alternative facts.com

Freezing works down the road has now got accommodation for Chinese managers to come and get accustomed to their works.

They are expanding accommodation to house Chinese workers next.

All of the buses at the pub down the road have complete Chinese crew and The tours are completely Chinese run.

Soon they will buy the pub and stock it with Chinese workers too! - Maybe our grand-kids are going to be in deep Chinese doo doo!

Not panicking or being sensationalist but are we looking after our kids future here or have we tossed the babies out with the bathwater? :scratch:

Woodman

11th February 2017, 18:00

Freezing works down the road has now got accommodation for Chinese managers to come and get accustomed to their works.

They are expanding accommodation to house Chinese workers next.

All of the buses at the pub down the road have complete Chinese crew and The tours are completely Chinese run.

Soon they will buy the pub and stock it with Chinese workers too! - Maybe our grand-kids are going to be in deep Chinese doo doo!

Not panicking or being sensationalist but are we looking after our kids future here or have we tossed the babies out with the bathwater? :scratch:

Waddaya mean "our kids'? Are the Chinese NZ citizens? or by "our kids" do you mean kids without slitty eyes?

bogan

11th February 2017, 18:09

Waddaya mean "our kids'? Are the Chinese NZ citizens? or by "our kids" do you mean kids without slitty eyes?

Reminds me of a thingo I saw the other day, to paraphrase it "Yes Gary, with your highschool diploma; Muhammad the neuroscientist is stealing your job"

Look, I can understand people taking issue with exporting our production to China, as relative wage laws favor them over local production; but it's fucking pathetic hearing bigots complain about New Zealanders of foreign descent taking jobs locally when the playing field is completely even.

Zedder

11th February 2017, 18:26

Freezing works down the road has now got accommodation for Chinese managers to come and get accustomed to their works.

They are expanding accommodation to house Chinese workers next.

All of the buses at the pub down the road have complete Chinese crew and The tours are completely Chinese run.

Soon they will buy the pub and stock it with Chinese workers too! - Maybe our grand-kids are going to be in deep Chinese doo doo!

Not panicking or being sensationalist but are we looking after our kids future here or have we tossed the babies out with the bathwater? :scratch:

Yet you were doing so well with post #3202. What happened?

Brian d marge

11th February 2017, 18:36

There are a shitload of Chinese living in China.,..I mean a shit load
If you try and supply them with food you will have to ramp up production ...A lot
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170211/f51bce5043ee8c861af45096b6bc0ff5.jpg

Tis what I'm thinking

sent for a divine source

Voltaire

11th February 2017, 19:28

They're prolly illegals. Build a fucking wall!!!
or have them build a wall on their lunch break if they get one.

They have put up a 2.4M high basement in a week, I should Trumpher ( formally Twitter) their number to The Easy D to build

the Mexican wall, and of course invoice Mexico.

They should get China to build more of the stuff here as it would be done a lot faster than Fulton feckin' Hogan and their sweet Council Kerb Stone contract.

I want a job on the Council, $150K a year would do me.

awa355

11th February 2017, 20:50

Trump has done a deal with Bill English, we take his amigos, he keeps John Key. Seems a good deal to me. :yes:

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/IMGP7216.jpg

oldrider

11th February 2017, 20:52

Yet you were doing so well with post #3202. What happened?

Fuck me it was only an observation - I was talking to the Chinese fellahs that live down the road and they were telling me about the plans for the works!

Then I was talking to some of the guys at the works and they was lamenting the reductions that their pays were suffering re purchasing power over the last five years!

Then I went to the pub and and was listening to how much the changes in staffing had taken place among the bus tour crews and hotel staff.

Then I was reading some of the posts on here and made my comment on what might be trending - maybe you should file your trigger fingers back a bit! :yes:

pritch

11th February 2017, 21:05

Reminds me of a thingo I saw the other day, to paraphrase it "Yes Gary, with your highschool diploma; Muhammad the neuroscientist is stealing your job"

I saw that too. Can't remember where but...

Virago

11th February 2017, 21:09

Approximately 20% of the world population is Chinese. At only 4% New Zealand is not pulling their weight here.

Freezing works down the road has now got accommodation for Chinese managers to come and get accustomed to their works.

They are expanding accommodation to house Chinese workers next.

All of the buses at the pub down the road have complete Chinese crew and The tours are completely Chinese run.

Soon they will buy the pub and stock it with Chinese workers too! - Maybe our grand-kids are going to be in deep Chinese doo doo!

Not panicking or being sensationalist but are we looking after our kids future here or have we tossed the babies out with the bathwater? :scratch:

The Chinese will be quite happy when we all fuck off. They need more room to park their cars.

oldrider

11th February 2017, 21:16

Approximately 20% of the world population is Chinese. At only 4% New Zealand is not pulling their weight here.

The Chinese will be quite happy when we all fuck off. They need more room to park their cars.

True! - When the Chinese lady asked me to help fix her Cherry for her - I wasn't exactly thinking of a car! - :thud: - Language problems! :scratch:

Katman

11th February 2017, 21:22

Anti-asiatic!!!

oldrider

11th February 2017, 22:02

Israel might even emerge from the Trump presidency era as a world superpower: http://www.globalresearch.ca/tensions-rising-in-the-middle-east-trump-threatens-iran-and-the-palestinians/5573996?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page& :corn:utm_medium=related_articles :corn:

Unless of course they lose their ("just"?) war with Iran in March! :confused: - :Oops: - not part of the plan? :no:

Zedder

11th February 2017, 22:18

Fuck me it was only an observation - I was talking to the Chinese fellahs that live down the road and they were telling me about the plans for the works!

Then I was talking to some of the guys at the works and they was lamenting the reductions that their pays were suffering re purchasing power over the last five years!

Then I went to the pub and and was listening to how much the changes in staffing had taken place among the bus tour crews and hotel staff.

Then I was reading some of the posts on here and made my comment on what might be trending - maybe you should file your trigger fingers back a bit! :yes:

Without the relvant info, it came across as more anti Chinese than that.

eldog

11th February 2017, 23:24

Without the relvant info, it came across as more anti Chinese than that.
No not anti Chinese, just an observation about different work attitudes.

when I visited China a few years back you could see why NZ looked so good in comparison and why they work the way they do. There are so many many people over there all competing for the same opportunities. There didn't seem to be a social backup like in NZ. We have gotten a bit soft and haven't realised what is happening out in other parts of the world.

time to wake up/smarter or get replaced.

the ones I have been dealing with pay to get a position/job placement they have a 3 month trial, no good they go back.

a bit like the attitudes from days gone by
italians work to live
germans live to work

jasonu

12th February 2017, 06:02

Freezing works down the road has now got accommodation for Chinese managers to come and get accustomed to their works.

They are expanding accommodation to house Chinese workers next.

All of the buses at the pub down the road have complete Chinese crew and The tours are completely Chinese run.

Soon they will buy the pub and stock it with Chinese workers too! - Maybe our grand-kids are going to be in deep Chinese doo doo!

Not panicking or being sensationalist but are we looking after our kids future here or have we tossed the babies out with the bathwater? :scratch:

Sounds like east Auckland in the 90's. They came over in droves (fleeing from the Hong Kong takeover by communist China), bought all the houses, set up all their own businesses and sure as shit didn't try to assimilate.

oldrider

12th February 2017, 07:27

Without the relvant info, it came across as more anti Chinese than that.

Actually I really enjoy talking and interacting with the individuals and groups of different people!

But only a few of them are able to speak understandable English and I can't speak any of theirs! :scratch:

Had a great team of Indians working for Chorus on our fibre optic installation they had a long hard day due to fuck up by the earlier Chorus street lay out!

The only racial problem that I have ever had is from the KB "reactors" to any criticism about Israel and their treatment of Palestine! - Go figure! :rolleyes:

There is something very fishy (Trumpy?) about the Israel / USA relationship if only it was allowed to be discussed it might become clearer! :shutup: :oi-grr:

Zedder

12th February 2017, 09:00

No not anti Chinese, just an observation about different work attitudes.

when I visited China a few years back you could see why NZ looked so good in comparison and why they work the way they do. There are so many many people over there all competing for the same opportunities. There didn't seem to be a social backup like in NZ. We have gotten a bit soft and haven't realised what is happening out in other parts of the world.

time to wake up/smarter or get replaced.

the ones I have been dealing with pay to get a position/job placement they have a 3 month trial, no good they go back.

a bit like the attitudes from days gone by
italians work to live
germans live to work

Did you actually read his post #3202? he went from "...No complaints it's great." to the next post about "...our Grandkids going to be deep in Chinese doo doo" etc.

Zedder

12th February 2017, 09:05

Sounds like east Auckland in the 90's. They came over in droves (fleeing from the Hong Kong takeover by communist China), bought all the houses, set up all their own businesses and sure as shit didn't try to assimilate.

So what if they saw opportunities? Why did you go to the USA? Did they have to assimilate?

Zedder

12th February 2017, 09:06

Actually I really enjoy talking and interacting with the individuals and groups of different people!

Good to know.

eldog

12th February 2017, 10:14

Did you actually read his post #3202? he went from "...No complaints it's great." to the next post about "...our Grandkids going to be deep in Chinese doo doo" etc.

Yes I read it. I wasn't commenting on it.

i also read his next posts.

i don't agree with everything that gets posted on here.
i just don't comment on most things, even if I strongly disagree/agree with them.

i was only commenting on what I see happening about me.
certainly enjoy working with the Chinese people I am currently working with, totally different outlook on life. But that doesn't necessarily mean they represent the Chinese community as a whole.

yokel

12th February 2017, 19:52

Trump has been catching up with the Jap PM, wonder if they talking much about Fukushima?

Apparently the south island east coast is 'hot', thats just fucking great.

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Berries

12th February 2017, 20:25

Apparently the south island east coast is 'hot', thats just fucking great.
Come on down.

oldrider

13th February 2017, 09:38

Trump has been catching up with the Jap PM, wonder if they talking much about Fukushima?

Apparently the south island east coast is 'hot', thats just fucking great.

Sorry yokel - Watching and listening to that clip was like having a discussion with a freshly opened can of spaghetti! :scratch:

Banditbandit

13th February 2017, 11:14

Are you muppets allergic to the combination of the words "illegal" and "immigrant"?

Trumps just doing what he said he would do, if he flip flopped then cunts would still complain that hes just another spineless politician.

Yip, Trump hates immigrants so much he decided to marry some of em!

Yes - and Melania is an illegal immigrant - broke immigration laws while in the US before meeting Thrumper .. He needs to ensure his next clone is not an illegal immigrant.

Trump has been catching up with the Jap PM, wonder if they talking much about Fukushima?

Apparently the south island east coast is 'hot', thats just fucking great.

This map shows just how far the radiation pollution from Fukishima has spread to date.

https://climateviewer.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/235b2a1.jpg?w=940

Brian d marge

13th February 2017, 17:01

Yes - and Melania is an illegal immigrant - broke immigration laws while in the US before meeting Thrumper .. He needs to ensure his next clone is not an illegal immigrant.

This map shows just how far the radiation pollution from Fukishima has spread to date.

https://climateviewer.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/235b2a1.jpg?w=940
That's fked it
Perth looks like is in need of Britishness...

sent for a divine source

yokel

13th February 2017, 19:53

Yes - and Melania is an illegal immigrant - broke immigration laws while in the US before meeting Thrumper .. He needs to ensure his next clone is not an illegal immigrant.

This map shows just how far the radiation pollution from Fukishima has spread to date.

Correct me if wrong, I think that's just a map of the tusumami wave.
Notice the "cm" scale on the right.

yokel

13th February 2017, 20:03

Sorry yokel - Watching and listening to that clip was like having a discussion with a freshly opened can of spaghetti! :scratch:

Yeah a lot of the stuff on fuku is kinda kooky.

The magnitude seems to very from banners and licking your iPhone charger to being an extinction level event.

I was looking at buy a jap import car, did some ringing around and no cunts doing anything about checking cars coming into the country, solely relying on the japs not to send any hot cars.

oldrider

13th February 2017, 22:20

This clip was first published 25 July 2013 - interesting portrayal of history and forecast of the future and why we are taken in certain directions! :corn:

Strangely it's listed as comedy but that is probably true for some on KB and they will soon tell us where it is all wrong and why we shouldn't be taken in by such rubbish!

We owe such a lot to them for saving us from ourselves!

Initially watched it to see if there were any hints of the emergence of today's Trump situation - there is but you have to think about it! :scratch:

Edit: The front page is misleading it is about banks, banking, bankers and how they control us with wars booms and bust economics!

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pritch

14th February 2017, 08:46

"No challenge is to great." With the possible exception of spelling?

YellowDog

14th February 2017, 09:37

So John Oliver is quite a twat in his own right. He got BREXIT completely wrong and also prefered the 'Disgusting Woman' to the 'Pathalogical Liar'.

So here's another version of his many personal sour grapes (why do I keep getting everything wrong) rants:

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Katman

14th February 2017, 09:50

Edit: The front page is misleading it is about banks, banking, bankers and how they control us with wars booms and bust economics!

And yet there will still be many on here that will view all those events as nothing more than unconnected coincidences instead of a carefully choreographed series of events.

TheDemonLord

14th February 2017, 10:33

And yet there will still be many on here that will view all those events as nothing more than unconnected coincidences instead of a carefully choreographed series of events.

Just like there are those that laugh at children who think they see faces in the clouds....

Katman

14th February 2017, 10:36

Just like there are those that laugh at children who think they see faces in the clouds....

Did you watch the video?

TheDemonLord

14th February 2017, 10:44

Did you watch the video?

And that sailed over your head, like a cloud in the sky

Katman

14th February 2017, 10:56

And that sailed over your head, like a cloud in the sky

But did you watch the video?

Banditbandit

14th February 2017, 11:17

Correct me if wrong, I think that's just a map of the tusumami wave.
Notice the "cm" scale on the right.

Yes - you are right. This site makes that clear (the site I found it on was wrong)

This also shows how far the pollution has spread

https://climateviewer.com/2013/10/22/ten-years-of-fukushima-radiation-crossing-the-pacific-ocean/

Woodman

14th February 2017, 12:17

And yet there will still be many on here that will view all those events as nothing more than unconnected coincidences instead of a carefully choreographed series of events.

Are they a series of unconnected coincidences? and have you proof* that they are not?

*proof not to be confused with opinion.

TheDemonLord

14th February 2017, 12:33

But did you watch the video?

Why do you ask?

What did I say that had any reference to the Video?

Katman

14th February 2017, 12:44

Why do you ask?

What did I say that had any reference to the Video?

I assumed that the inference of your post was likening those who saw everything as unconnected coincidences to the adults in your 'analogy', and likening those who saw them as a series of carefully choreographed events to the children who saw faces in clouds.

Feel free to correct me if that wasn't what you meant.

TheDemonLord

14th February 2017, 13:02

I assumed that the inference of your post was likening those who saw everything as unconnected coincidences to the adults in your 'analogy', and likening those who saw them as a series of carefully choreographed events to the children who saw faces in clouds.

Feel free to correct me if that wasn't what you meant.

You were so close and then you took a sharp u-turn and missed it entirely.