The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[oldrider]

Got any probabilities though? :laugh:

Trump getting shot for being a cunt is more probable than a vril assasination to prevent him... wait, why the fuck would the vril even want to prevent the biggest puppet we've seen in decades from gaining 'power'?

True! - even you have to admit - Trump would be a very untidy President even though he has ticked all the appropriate boxes - they must be getting nervous! :corn:

[bogan]

You wouldn't know satire if it fucked you up the arse.

Forgive me if I don't take satire identification lessons from the guy who just failed to identify the satire :facepalm: A reacharound hint though, if something is fucking you up the arse, it probably isn't satire, might be a bloke names Stanley though; I dunno, and I'd prefer if you kept your home antics to just between yourself and Stan though...


True! - even you have to admit - Trump would be a very untidy President even though he has ticked all the appropriate boxes - they must be getting nervous! :corn:

Everyone with enough brain cells to rub together is getting nervous at the prospect of that buffoon getting into office; half of the problem is we didn't realise just how many don't; cos that's who is voting for him...

[YellowDog]

Many on here are not grasping the general intilligence level of your average American citizen.

Lots of super bright people, but most are not :weird:

[pritch]

I did not know about
Jill Stein .... NOTHING in the media
Even the alternative media

Probably as you said she is a ruuskie Green and most probably a sandal wearing

Hippie



Apparently she's a doctor. The medical kind.

I didn't say she was a Russian Stooge, that was FOX News. One of their talking heads said Stein had her own show on the RT TV channel but she doesn't now, nor ever did. She appeared in one interview. FOX were just being their usual fucked up selves.

[oldrider]

Forgive me if I don't take satire identification lessons from the guy who just failed to identify the satire :facepalm: A reacharound hint though, if something is fucking you up the arse, it probably isn't satire, might be a bloke names Stanley though; I dunno, and I'd prefer if you kept your home antics to just between yourself and Stan though...



Everyone with enough brain cells to rub together is getting nervous at the prospect of that buffoon getting into office; half of the problem is we didn't realise just how many don't; cos that's who is voting for him...

There is also the chance that Trump may be the real deal and is being pilloried by the biased MSM etc etc to destroy him - how do we know?

Just listening to him speak and act personally on TV etc even from so far away makes that one appear a pretty long shot at best but :shifty: this is America! :blip:

Time will reveal all but still, how would we ever know except through trusted information sources. :shutup: that's why so many men, so many opinions! :corn:

[bogan]

There is also the chance that Trump may be the real deal and is being pilloried by the biased MSM etc etc to destroy him - how do we know?

Just listening to him speak and act personally on TV etc even from so far away makes that one appear a pretty long shot at best but :shifty: this is America! :blip:

Time will reveal all but still, how would we ever know except through trusted information sources. :shutup: that's why so many men, so many opinions! :corn:

The real deal? There's absolutely 0 chance of that. Every information source shows that he isn't, it clearly is not some msm smear campaign.

[Voltaire]

You are not forgetting that you too are a member a poster and participant - there is no discount for feeling a little superior! :msn-wink:

Suppose...I'm only here for the blithering.:woohoo:
I get bored looking out the window of the PWC building at the extensive views of the Waitamata Harbour and the endless flat whites.

[oldrider]

Suppose...I'm only here for the blithering.:woohoo:
I get bored looking out the window of the PWC building at the extensive views of the Waitamata Harbour and the endless flat whites.

It's still like being a - "little bit pregnant" - either she is or she is not - the class or personal/public standing of the woman is immaterial - she is pregnant!

Everyone on here is the same when they refer to KB - that is us - every one of us - we are the same - doing the same thing - posting on KB!

That's why I linger here and truth be known I am going to miss it - when we were kids we used to read comics - same thing I spose! :mellow:

I have met some really good people through this forum and expect those relationships will remain always. :niceone:

[Voltaire]

It's still like being a - "little bit pregnant" - either she is or she is not - the class or personal/public standing of the woman is immaterial - she is pregnant!

Everyone on here is the same when they refer to KB - that is us - every one of us - we are the same - doing the same thing - posting on KB!

That's why I linger here and truth be known I am going to miss it - when we were kids we used to read comics - same thing I spose! :mellow:

I have met some really good people through this forum and expect those relationships will remain always. :niceone:

Spose....

I also post on a Ducati, Norton, BMW,Guzzi and a couple of VW forums, they don't have a blithering section so come here for that :laugh:

You get banned from the Norton forum for being silly.:Police:, here you just get sent to PD.

[oldrider]

True but meanwhile back on topic - could this be where John Key picked up his hair fetish from? :eek:

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[Voltaire]

Back on topic.....yeah right.

US having used Kurds as Proxy army now sticks the knife in.

Anyone who thinks the Americans have their interests at heart should read about how they supported South Vietnam in the early 70's

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/biden-visits-turkey-on-mission-to-repair-strained-relations/2016/08/24/bc684904-6a04-11e6-99bf-f0cf3a6449a6_story.html

[oldrider]

Back on topic.....yeah right.

US having used Kurds as Proxy army now sticks the knife in.

Anyone who thinks the Americans have their interests at heart should read about how they supported South Vietnam in the early 70's

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/biden-visits-turkey-on-mission-to-repair-strained-relations/2016/08/24/bc684904-6a04-11e6-99bf-f0cf3a6449a6_story.html

How do you get rid of that sign in popup?

[idb]

There is also the chance that Trump may be the real deal and is being pilloried by the biased MSM etc etc to destroy him - how do we know?

Just listening to him speak and act personally on TV etc even from so far away makes that one appear a pretty long shot at best but :shifty: this is America! :blip:

Time will reveal all but still, how would we ever know except through trusted information sources. :shutup: that's why so many men, so many opinions! :corn:

Trump doesn't need to be pilloried...he just needs to be reported verbatim.

[YellowDog]

Easiest election for the Democrats ever but...............................

[husaberg]

You forgot to quote this part of the article.....

Donald Trump asked a foreign policy expert advising him why the U.S. can't use nuclear weapons, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough said on the air Wednesday, citing an unnamed source who claimed he had spoken with the GOP presidential nominee.

But you'll just lap up that mainstream media like a good little sheep.
I note that "Trump himself" has never denied this is a fact.
He used an aid to say it was without basis.
You need to prove, he didn't ask three times how long it would take to deploy nuclear weapons.

When MSNBC’s Chris Matthews told Trump in March that presidents shouldn’t suggest they might use nukes, as Trump has done repeatedly, the candidate responded with a question: "Then why do we make them?"


At a December Republican debate, radio host Hugh Hewitt asked Trump about the "nuclear triad" — the three different ways the US can deliver nuclear weapons (bomber aircraft, submarines, and land-based missiles).
It’s not clear, in this mostly incoherent answer, that Trump actually knows what the triad is. When Hewitt pressed him, Trump answered with a single line: "I think, for me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ7_bo74VMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op7PKNCH65A
The ex KKK leader endorses Trump.
People like Donald trump "and us" need to take over the republican party

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4qm8xc_the-david-duke-show-8-26-16-004_news

[oldrider]

I note that "Trump himself" has never?????????????????

Are you related to George W Bush or one of the Clintons?

We all interested spectators etc but I don't think anybody cares too much because it is all way outside our field of influence - we don't even get a vote!

Why do you get so worked up and agitated with anybody who thinks or expresses an opinion outside of main stream thinking? :scratch:

[husaberg]

Are you related to George W Bush or one of the Clintons?

We all interested spectators etc but I don't think anybody cares too much because it is all way outside our field of influence - we don't even get a vote!

Why do you get so worked up and agitated with anybody who thinks or expresses an opinion outside of main stream thinking? :scratch:

That's very funny.
I get all worked up and agitated....:killingme.
No doubt Whilst you, Katman and yokel remain all so calm and reasonable.
Tell me another joke, or just share another of your conspiracy theories (same thing)

On the off chance you will actually answer a question, what do you think about the former KKK leader endorsing Trump.

[oldrider]

On the off chance you will actually answer a question, what do you think about the former KKK leader endorsing Trump.

I couldn't care less - don't have any affiliation or firm opinions on any of them - why do you think I should? :scratch:

[husaberg]

I couldn't care less - don't have any affiliation or firm opinions on any of them :

Or its seems an ability to answer a question relating to your own and the KKK's rather obvious shared interests.
But do carry on trying to avoid these comparisons to what is rather obvious shared interests. The same ones that you also share with neo Nazis.

Also feel free, to continue to espouse the virtues of Mien Kamph and Adolf Hitler as well.
But don't act all surprised, when you are called a racist or a bigot, when your common interests are highlighted.

[oldrider]

Or its seems an ability to answer a question relating to your own and the KKK's rather obvious shared interests.
But do carry on trying to avoid these comparisons to what is rather obvious shared interests. The same ones that you also share with neo Nazis.

Also feel free, to continue to espouse the virtues of Mien Kamph and Adolf Hitler as well.
But don't act all surprised, when you are called a racist or a bigot, when your common interests are highlighted.

Fuck me dead - you really are one confused sick puppy! :rolleyes:

[husaberg]

I couldn't care less - don't have any affiliation or firm opinions on any of them :

Or its seems an ability to answer a question relating to your own and the KKK's rather obvious shared interests.
But do carry on trying to avoid these comparisons to what is rather obvious shared interests. The same ones that you also share with neo Nazis.

Also feel free, to continue to espouse the virtues of Mien Kamph and Adolf Hitler as well.
But don't act all surprised, when you are called a racist or a bigot, when your common interests are highlighted.

Fuck me dead - you really are one confused sick puppy! :rolleyes:

Okay it clearly must be another person who posts with your log in then?
You might also find less need for profanity, if you had a defendable stance.


Mein Kampf - often quoted seldom read - it is simply an historic infamous/famous (take your pick) book not illegal quite easy to obtain and available on line.
I have not read it yet but am doing so when I have time simply to see what it is all about and how much of it is reflected in what "actually" took place in history.
I posted it so that anybody else who felt the same could access it and see for themselves - does this cause you be afraid or something - is there something you fear?
The only thing to fear about fear is fear it's self ----- are you afraid we might learn that somebody has been telling porkies? :shutup:

Many posters on KB refer to Hitler and Mein Kampf etc but have never seen or read it and have very little understanding about real German Jewish history or WW2!
Here is "Mein Kampf" for free: http://www.radicalpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Adolf-Hitler-Mein-Kampf-english-translation-unexpurgated-1939-copy-2.pdf

Those who were against Hitler before Hitler was exposed were conspiracy theorists - those who conform were with Hitler because he was the Authority!


But of course silly me - your explanation would account for why Hitler was so popular with his German people - he treated them so badly! - Yeah right! :rolleyes:

Or maybe you could explain this post you made?

A non MSM view of what Donald Trump's election might mean to the world.
The Walking Dead–Donald Trump as an enemy of ‘Greater Israel’ living every day of his candidacy in Netanyahu’s crosshairs
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/177859-Signs-of-big-changes-that-you-might-want-to-pay-attention-to?p=1130948123#post1130948123

[Katman]

Or its seems an ability to answer a question relating to your own and the KKK's rather obvious shared interests.
But do carry on trying to avoid these comparisons to what is rather obvious shared interests. The same ones that you also share with neo Nazis.

Also feel free, to continue to espouse the virtues of Mien Kamph and Adolf Hitler as well.
But don't act all surprised, when you are called a racist or a bigot, when your common interests are highlighted.

What. A. Fucking. Moron.

[husaberg]

What. A. Fucking. Moron.

https://media.giphy.com/media/yAXvLBVOHMmVG/giphy.gif

[mashman]

Ahhhhhhh TV. A fair hearing for a Presidential Candidate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QYZVoZGhow

[pritch]

Ahhhhhhh TV. A fair hearing for a Presidential Candidate.


That's interesting 'cause PBS is supposedly neutral. Well, as neutral as it gets. FOX would be completely bent in favour of Trump, MSNBC would be bent just as far in the other direction for Clinton.

How voters are supposed to get good information about all the candidates is a mystery.

[TheDemonLord]

On the off chance you will actually answer a question, what do you think about the former KKK leader endorsing Trump.

From a strictly logical point of view - you are doing a textbook example of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy#Guilt_by_association_as_an_ad_ hominem_fallacy

[jasonu]

How voters are supposed to get good information about all the candidates is a mystery.

Firstly don't believe anything the media says.
Secondly, fucked if I know.

I'm voting for the one that makes me feel the least like chucking up every time I see their face.

[TheDemonLord]

Firstly don't believe anything the media says.
Secondly, fucked if I know.

I'm voting for the one that makes me feel the least like chucking up every time I see their face.

So you aren't voting this year?

[YellowDog]

Firstly don't believe anything the media says.
Secondly, fucked if I know.

I'm voting for the one that makes me feel the least like chucking up every time I see HER face.

Fixed it 4ya :)

[husaberg]

From a strictly logical point of view - you are doing a textbook example of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy#Guilt_by_association_as_an_ad_ hominem_fallacy

Nah....., okay yes, I was just doing what he does all the time.
In fact I was replying to one.
That said, its not all surprising that the Former KKK leader is endorsing Trump really.
What is surprising, is that Trump claims to not know who he is.
So either he himself has issues with it, or he's very forgetful, or he is a liar.
As in the 90's the reason he said he didn't run for president was David Duke was part of the reform party

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/28/politics/donald-trump-white-supremacists/

The Sunday uproar started when Trump was asked by Tapper whether he would disavow Duke and other white supremacist groups that are supporting his campaign.
"Just so you understand, I don't know anything about David Duke, OK?" Trump said.
Trump was pressed three times on whether he'd distance himself from the Ku Klux Klan -- but never mentioned the group in his answers.
"I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists," he said. "So I don't know. I don't know -- did he endorse me, or what's going on? Because I know nothing about David Duke; I know nothing about white supremacists."

Because he should did when he made an earlier statement.
7.32

https://youtu.be/oQ7_bo74VMA?t=7m32s

No doubt this is a beat up as well...............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz1F58BvlE0

Here is a Report on Trump from the conspiracy media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URPCoReshzg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmne8r2sIFA

[idb]

Nah....., okay yes, I was just doing what he does all the time.
In fact I was replying to one.
That said, its not all surprising that the Former KKK leader is endorsing Trump really.
What is surprising, is that Trump claims to not know who he is.
So either he himself has issues with it, or he's very forgetful, or he is a liar.
As in the 90's the reason he said he didn't run for president was David Duke was part of the reform party

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/28/politics/donald-trump-white-supremacists/


Because he should did when he made an earlier statement.
7.32

https://youtu.be/oQ7_bo74VMA?t=7m32s

No doubt this is a beat up as well...............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz1F58BvlE0

Here is a Report on Trump from the conspiracy media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URPCoReshzg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmne8r2sIFA

Trump said, "I have the world's greatest memory. It's one thing everyone agrees on."
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/amid-latest-controversy-trump-claims-worlds-greatest-memory-n468621

[Virago]

Trump said, "I have the world's greatest memory. It's one thing everyone agrees on."
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/amid-latest-controversy-trump-claims-worlds-greatest-memory-n468621

Yet another misquote. He actually said he has the world's greatest mammaries.

[husaberg]

Trump said, "I have the world's greatest memory. It's one thing everyone agrees on."
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/amid-latest-controversy-trump-claims-worlds-greatest-memory-n468621

Yet another misquote. He actually said he has the world's greatest mammaries.
Are you sure he wasn't saying his daughter had great mammaries?
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/66/af/ee/66afeefdcc853c453e9cb787a2fb1a22.jpg

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/200x/53/32/41/5332412a38eef092b36b5c82cab260f1.jpghttp://deadstate.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-21-at-6.48.19-PM.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7goA_DnGIbU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52yOdl9_oZ4

Better is still Trumps legal advisor, After trump loses 22 polls in a row, What polls.....?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bWsNpMvKfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9YPYRaeTW0
Better still threaten the media when they say something he doesn't like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daVbHgGBtmo

[yokel]

I am the 'alt right '

Lets hope Trump puts to death all this feminist cultural marxist political correct nonsense.

Hillary has made yet another fatal mistake by mentioning the 'alt right' most of the cunts listening will be like 'WTF is that? '


https://youtu.be/JPhg49BkVrw

[yokel]

Hillary's 'argument' style sound a lot some of the cucks on this forum.


https://youtu.be/8btR2U2EM_Y

[Akzle]

That's interesting 'cause PBS is supposedly neutral. Well, as neutral as it gets. FOX would be completely bent in favour of Trump, MSNBC would be bent just as far in the other direction for Clinton.

How voters are supposed to get good information about all the candidates is a mystery.

ahhh. they're not?

if they knew anything about the system, or the puppets, there would be revolution by dawn.

selfish ignorant citizens. selfish ignorant leaders.

it's a bullshit 3 ring circus sideshow i tell ya.

i mean really, how long have us "kiwibikers" been discussing this irrelevant distracto-bullshit from the us, and how long yet to go? (i don't know or care)
seriously!

and ask any moron on the street what the actual POLICIES are and it's all herp-a-derp. not that these ineffectual puppets can actually implement any policy they may have, without the blessing of the IMjewF.

seriously. this farce has to be the most redundant shit of this decade.

vive la revolutioné

[mashman]

That's interesting 'cause PBS is supposedly neutral. Well, as neutral as it gets. FOX would be completely bent in favour of Trump, MSNBC would be bent just as far in the other direction for Clinton.

How voters are supposed to get good information about all the candidates is a mystery.

The shiny award for most apt post goes to Akzle. It'd be great to hope for a neutral source in all of this. The problem with the neutral source is that it'll get all of the traffic and those who prefer to spin the slightly, tui, more sensational side of things'll get nada. The bases are loaded, so to speak.

I recently spoke to a Council representative wanting to find out more about the history of the Porirua area. All fine and well until I mentioned that I was a mayoral candidate. Not knowing anything about me or what I would like to see done in the area, the Council representative has already decided who they would like for Mayor and therefore why would they wish to inform anyone of anything that they didn't have to deal with? I wasn't asking for votes, just history. That's just Porirua. Fortunately I didn't expect otherwise, but to actually have it confirmed so early on in the process, well, let's just say that politics is alive and well in a place where it shouldn't be and ideas matter not a jot so long as you have something shiny, like a cycleway, I mean walkway, I mean pathway, I mean turf covered place for people to traverse or whatever du jour phrase is required not to scare people away with, but dazzle them with.

I'm not for a moment claiming that the candidates are useless or can't do the job etc... but I do find it ironic that they still vote for people who claim to know the systems in use, having been ex or serving Councilors, and therefore decide that they have to be the best candidates for the job. Ironic in that, if they knew/know the systems so well, then they're responsible for the issues that they're coming forwards to claim that they can solve :laugh: The shame is that the people vote for them too, and on the same basis.

You said "How voters are supposed to get good information about all the candidates is a mystery.". It's not a mystery. It's well known. Too many people simply can't be arsed looking at what candidates stand for coz they're much of a much right, and so they're happy to follow the biggest herd coz they must be right, right. Tragic, but the evidence is hard to ignore... should you choose to have given a shit in the first place that is.

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[Brian d marge]

ahhh. they're not?

if they knew anything about the system, or the puppets, there would be revolution by dawn.

selfish ignorant citizens. selfish ignorant leaders.

it's a bullshit 3 ring circus sideshow i tell ya.

i mean really, how long have us "kiwibikers" been discussing this irrelevant distracto-bullshit from the us, and how long yet to go? (i don't know or care)
seriously!

and ask any moron on the street what the actual POLICIES are and it's all herp-a-derp. not that these ineffectual puppets can actually implement any policy they may have, without the blessing of the IMjewF.

seriously. this farce has to be the most redundant shit of this decade.

vive la revolutioné
The farce has been going on since the Sumerians
The fkers were taking a cut of the gold silver exchange between the jewdaic temples and China
THEN once they realized how good a scan it was , they entrenched it in religion..
And the sheep are STILL none the wiser
Though one has to say the festivals were better back then
Much better... Oh lord.. of miss rule ( her business card was in the telephone box )

sent for a divine source

[Brian d marge]

The shiny award for most apt post goes to Akzle. It'd be great to hope for a neutral source in all of this. The problem with the neutral source is that it'll get all of the traffic and those who prefer to spin the slightly, tui, more sensational side of things'll get nada. The bases are loaded, so to speak.

I recently spoke to a Council representative wanting to find out more about the history of the Porirua area. All fine and well until I mentioned that I was a mayoral candidate. Not knowing anything about me or what I would like to see done in the area, the Council representative has already decided who they would like for Mayor and therefore why would they wish to inform anyone of anything that they didn't have to deal with? I wasn't asking for votes, just history. That's just Porirua. Fortunately I didn't expect otherwise, but to actually have it confirmed so early on in the process, well, let's just say that politics is alive and well in a place where it shouldn't be and ideas matter not a jot so long as you have something shiny, like a cycleway, I mean walkway, I mean pathway, I mean turf covered place for people to traverse or whatever du jour phrase is required not to scare people away with, but dazzle them with.

I'm not for a moment claiming that the candidates are useless or can't do the job etc... but I do find it ironic that they still vote for people who claim to know the systems in use, having been ex or serving Councilors, and therefore decide that they have to be the best candidates for the job. Ironic in that, if they knew/know the systems so well, then they're responsible for the issues that they're coming forwards to claim that they can solve [emoji23] The shame is that the people vote for them too, and on the same basis.

You said "How voters are supposed to get good information about all the candidates is a mystery.". It's not a mystery. It's well known. Too many people simply can't be arsed looking at what candidates stand for coz they're much of a much right, and so they're happy to follow the biggest herd coz they must be right, right. Tragic, but the evidence is hard to ignore... should you choose to have given a shit in the first place that is.

Akzle 1 - KB 0
Well stranger things have happened
Leicester city winning the cup

sent for a divine source

[mashman]

Well stranger things have happened
Leicester city winning the cup

sent for a divine source

Leeds did that once and then, erm :rofl:... but yeah, it is more than possible that people will click as to what they're voting for and I may well point it out at the Meet The Mayor meetings that are rapidly approaching. Could make me popular :killingme

[Brian d marge]

Leeds did that once and then, erm :rofl:... but yeah, it is more than possible that people will click as to what they're voting for and I may well point it out at the Meet The Mayor meetings that are rapidly approaching. Could make me popular :killingme
I can be bought for a can of Waikato...

sent for a divine source

[TheDemonLord]

I am the 'alt right '

No, I'm pretty sure you are the Retard Yokel.

There's a difference.

[mashman]

I can be bought for a can of Waikato...

sent for a divine source

:laugh: point very well illustrated sir.

[yokel]

If you want to keep your face in the TV box? then don't say negative shit about the hildabeast.


http://youtu.be/7HAIbJhj1Q0

more intesting shit.
Her next seizure may be her last.

http://youtu.be/m-8iaJTC5jk

[YellowDog]

If you want to keep your face in the TV box? then don't say negative shit about the hildabeast.
video=youtube_share;7HAIbJhj1Q0]http://youtu.be/7HAIbJhj1Q0[/video]

more intesting shit.
Her next seizure may be her last.

http://youtu.be/m-8iaJTC5jk

HILARY CLINTON IS A VAMPIRE :yes:

[Virago]

It surprises me that so much opposition to Clinton revolves around her looks.

Much the same as Helen Clark's perceived ability to take on the UN role.

I'm not sure what people are expecting for a 68 year old.

Trump is a couple of years older, but luckily doesn't have the same perceived limitations - despite having the sex appeal of a road accident.

[husaberg]

HILARY CLINTON IS A VAMPIRE :yes:

Katman and yokel outed her as a shapeshifting lizard ages ago, they had a video and all.
As for the who cares about US politics, just consider that whoever wins, will be in control of the most powerful war machine in the world.
Then consider for a moment, that one of the contenders is a lunatic egomaniac.

[jasonu]

Katman and yokel outed her as a shapeshifting lizard ages ago, they had a video and all.
As for the who cares about US politics, just consider that whoever wins, will be in control of the most powerful war machine in the world.
Then consider for a moment, that one of the contenders is a lunatic egomaniac.

and the other one is Donald trump

[Voltaire]

Why is that the most useless knobs run the world and the real experts are on a Bike Forum.:baby:

[oldrider]

It surprises me that so much opposition to Clinton revolves around her looks.

Much the same as Helen Clark's perceived ability to take on the UN role.

I'm not sure what people are expecting for a 68 year old.

Trump is a couple of years older, but luckily doesn't have the same perceived limitations - despite having the sex appeal of a road accident.

They will think that they follow the flag of their choice - but they will follow the flag that we hold out in front of them! = Deception! :scratch:

Identify the deceivers and the true government of the world shall be revealed. :whistle:

[YellowDog]

Katman and yokel outed her as a shapeshifting lizard ages ago, they had a video and all.
As for the who cares about US politics, just consider that whoever wins, will be in control of the most powerful war machine in the world.
Then consider for a moment, that one of the contenders is a lunatic egomaniac.

So Bill and Hailary are actually the same person, with a shape shifting ability. Though you sometimes see both of them in the same room, they don't ever both move at the same time :eek5:

When Bill is actually Hilary, he/she models him/herself upon the President character from Prison Break - right?

Democracy is soooo tough to follow. I'm voting Green the next time we have an election :o

[Banditbandit]

As for the who cares about US politics, just consider that whoever wins, will be in control of the most powerful war machine in the world.


That has yet to be tested .. but I don't want to be around when they do ..

[Virago]

So Bill and Hailary are actually the same person, with a shape shifting ability. Though you sometimes see both of them in the same room, they don't ever both move at the same time :eek5:

In these situations you'll find that Bill is an inflatable lookalike.

That's what caused the trouble over Monica - she was simply helping out when he started to deflate.

[Banditbandit]

https://i.imgflip.com/zuyjb.jpg


http://memeshappen.com/media/created/IT39S-MY-TURN-TO-BE-PRESIDENT-bill-promised-I-COULD-AFTER-I-FOUND-OUT-ABOUT-MONICA-meme-39818.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fb/3f/f1/fb3ff14d3bbdecaef04903c964cb7e17.jpg

[mashman]

Why is that the most useless knobs run the world and the real experts are on a Bike Forum.:baby:

Remember that Inconvenient Truth - Comfortable Life pic. Voila ;)

[husaberg]

and the other one is Donald trump

Yeah Both are "AMERICANS"


So Bill and Hailary are actually the same person, with a shape shifting ability. Though you sometimes see both of them in the same room, they don't ever both move at the same time :eek5:

When Bill is actually Hilary, he/she models him/herself upon the President character from Prison Break - right?

Democracy is soooo tough to follow. I'm voting Green the next time we have an election :o
We should get someone to start a poll.

That has yet to be tested .. but I don't want to be around when they do ..

Talk about going international.

[oldrider]

That has yet to be tested .. but I don't want to be around when they do ..

Well there is one country in the world that has openly declared that they will take everybody else down with them should they suffer nuclear attack! :facepalm:

And they have the capacity and the will to do just that! :shifty: .............................. so probably wont be any of us around! :bye:

[husaberg]

Well there is one country in the world that has openly declared that they will take everybody else down with them should they suffer nuclear attack! :facepalm:

And they have the capacity and the will to do just that! :shifty: .............................. so probably wont be any of us around! :bye:


Incorrect.


In 2000, Russia did away with its “no first use” nuclear weapons policy and added the option of “de-escalatory” nuclear strikes, placing these dangerous weapons at the center of its military doctrine. De-escalatory nuclear strikes allow Russia to respond with a limited nuclear strike if confronted with a large-scale conventional attack that exceeds its defense capabilities. For the Russians, this strategy deters the U.S. and its allies from becoming involved in conflicts that Moscow wishes to dominate. For the rest of the world, it increases fear that deterrence will fail – Putin could miscalculate a threat and fire nuclear weapons due to miscommunication.


The opposing superpowers of the worlds operate on the system of mutually assured destruction


The MAD doctrine assumes that each side has enough nuclear weaponry to destroy the other side and that either side, if attacked for any reason by the other, would retaliate without fail with equal or greater force. The expected result is an immediate, irreversible escalation of hostilities resulting in both combatants' mutual, total, and assured destruction. The doctrine requires that neither side construct shelters on a massive scale, such as there are in Switzerland. If one side constructed a similar system of shelters, it would violate the MAD doctrine and destabilize the situation, because it would not have to fear the consequences of a second strike.The same principle is invoked against missile defense.

The doctrine further assumes that neither side will dare to launch a first strike because the other side would launch on warning (also called fail-deadly) or with surviving forces (a second strike), resulting in unacceptable losses for both parties. The payoff of the MAD doctrine was and still is expected to be a tense but stable global peace.

The primary application of this doctrine started during the Cold War (1940s to 1991), in which MAD was seen as helping to prevent any direct full-scale conflicts between the United States and the Soviet Union while they engaged in smaller proxy wars around the world. It was also responsible for the arms race, as both nations struggled to keep nuclear parity, or at least retain second-strike capability. Although the Cold War ended in the early 1990s, the MAD doctrine continues to be applied.

Proponents of MAD as part of U.S. and USSR strategic doctrine believed that nuclear war could best be prevented if neither side could expect to survive a full-scale nuclear exchange as a functioning state. Since the credibility of the threat is critical to such assurance, each side had to invest substantial capital in their nuclear arsenals even if they were not intended for use. In addition, neither side could be expected or allowed to adequately defend itself against the other's nuclear missiles.[citation needed] This led both to the hardening and diversification of nuclear delivery systems (such as nuclear missile silos, ballistic missile submarines, and nuclear bombers kept at fail-safe points) and to the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty

[oldrider]

Incorrect.

Not incorrect - not USSR or modern day Russia! :no:

[husaberg]

Not incorrect - not USSR or modern day Russia! :no:

Its clearly correct, that you are totally incorrect in your original assertion, But feel free to ignore that, as it clearly doesn't suit your agenda.

Well there is one country in the world that has openly declared that they will take everybody else down with them should they suffer nuclear attack! :facepalm:
And they have the capacity and the will to do just that! :shifty: .............................. so probably wont be any of us around! :bye:


Proponents of MAD as part of U.S. and USSR strategic doctrine believed that nuclear war could best be prevented if neither side could expect to survive a full-scale nuclear exchange as a functioning state.

By the mid-1960s, unilateral deterrence gave way to "mutual deterrence," a situation of strategic stalemate. The superpowers would refrain from attacking each other because of the certainty of mutual assured destruction, better known as MAD. This theory is still a major part of the defense policies of the United States and Russia.

In 2000, Russia did away with its “no first use” nuclear weapons policy


So nothing really new in that aye.

[Katman]

http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/israelithreats.html

[oldrider]

What's this then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

[husaberg]

What's this then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option


its a webpage,. that also has this video plus a seris of text that proves your original assertion is bogus.

Well there is one country in the world that has openly declared that they will take everybody else down with them should they suffer nuclear attack! :facepalm:
And they have the capacity and the will to do just that! :shifty: .............................. so probably wont be any of us around! :bye:
but like I said, But feel free to ignore that, as it clearly doesn't suit your agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7AwMdu1llc



During the 1999 NATO Bombings of Serbia

During the 1999 NATO bombing of Serbia, Russian leaders repeatedly inferred that if bombing continued or ground troops entered Serbia, it might lead to nuclear war with Russia. A series of quotes, right up until the bombing stopped, illustrate how serious they were.
“I told NATO, the Americans, the Germans: Don't push us toward military action. Otherwise there will be a European war for sure and possibly world war.'' Russian President Boris Yeltsin, April 6, 1999
"In the event that NATO and America start a ground operation in Yugoslavia, they will face a second Vietnam, I do not want to forecast what is going to start then. I cannot rule out a third world war.'' Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov, April 17, 1999
"If NATO goes from air force to ground force it will be a world catastrophe. (Russia) has never felt such anti-Western, anti-European feelings." First Deputy Russian Prime Minister Anatoly Chubais, April 25, 1999.
“You have to understand that if we want to cause you a problem over this, we could. Someone, we don't know who, could send up a missile from a ship or a submarine and detonate a nuclear weapon high over the United States. The EMP (electromagnetic pulse that destroys electronic and computer equipment) would take away all your capability.” Vladimir Lukin, Chairman of the Russian State Duma Foreign Policy Committee, late April, 1999
“Just let Clinton, a little bit, accidentally, send a missile. We will answer immediately. Such impudence! To unleash a war on a sovereign state. Without Security Council. Without United Nations. It could only be possible in a time of barbarism.” Boris Yeltsin, May 7, 1999
"The world has never in this decade been so close as now to the brink of nuclear war." Viktor Chernomyrdin, May 27, 1999




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uudp6pQLa5k

[oldrider]

Adage springs to mind: You can fool some people some of the time but you won't fool all of the people all of the time! :shifty:

[husaberg]

Adage springs to mind: You can fool some people some of the time but you won't fool all of the people all of the time! :shifty:

A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer.


Well there is one country in the world that has openly declared that they will take everybody else down with them should they suffer nuclear attack! :facepalm:

And they have the capacity and the will to do just that! :shifty: .............................. so probably wont be any of us around! :bye:


Incorrect.



The opposing superpowers of the worlds operate on the system of mutually assured destruction

[Voltaire]

A stitch in time saves 9

[husaberg]

A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open.

[Voltaire]

If Donald can get this far give hope to the Kanye's of this world.:eek5:

[oldrider]

If Donald can get this far give hope to the Kanye's of this world.:eek5:

Nothing left to do now but sit back and watch the results and see what damage this circus inflicts upon the world - :wait: - Hope lives eternal! :corn:

[husaberg]

There's no fool, like an old fool.

[oldrider]

There's no fool, like an old fool.

From the likes of you that is a compliment - no time like the present to shill out - do you get paid or are you a simple volunteer! :sick:

[husaberg]

From the likes of you that is a compliment - no time like the present to shill out - do you get paid or are you a simple volunteer! :sick:

You might what to find out what a shill is oldie.
Its someone who purports "unsolicited propaganda endorsing or promoting a product or a premise."
As my replies are in response to your own (and others), unsolicited and rather transparent, wholly and solely racially motivated posts.
This makes you a shill for the KKK.

[oldrider]

You might what to find out what a shrill is oldie.
Its someone who purports "unsolicited propaganda endorsing or promoting a product."
As my replies are in response to your own and others, unsolicited and rather transparent wholly racially motivated posts.
This makes you a shill for the KKK.

You are still running second - the world is made up of leaders and followers - eat my dust! :ride:

[pritch]

You might what to find out what a shrill is oldie.


I give up. So what is a shrill?

[Brian d marge]

I give up. So what is a shrill?
It's the noise my wife makes when she finds my credit card bill

sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

I give up. So what is a shrill?

Its a misspelled shill, but its more an apt description of the noise oldie makes harping on with Goebbels era propaganda.

[husaberg]

You are still running second - the world is made up of leaders and followers - eat my dust! :ride:

Au contraire, As you are only repeating ad nausea Nazi propaganda, that clearly makes you a follower.

[Brian d marge]

Au contraire, As you are only repeating ad nausea Nazi propaganda, that clearly makes you a follower.
What happens if that doctrine was ... politically correct..and has some, or more correctly, quite a lot of truth and that the western media , which is owned by a few families , is false
Example ... Barbarossa, why was the Russian army over taken in the early stages so quickly
Was it because the Russians were on the offensive? If the Russian were on the defensive , how far would the Germans have got?
Simple question that opens up too many doors .....
If you follow western retoric back the picture does indeed change


sent for a divine source

[oldrider]

Au contraire, As you are only repeating ad nausea Nazi propaganda, that clearly makes you a follower.

And where does that leave you? - the follower of a follower? - your natural value = nil - Eat my dust! :ride:

[yokel]

How to spot a fool?
The sound like the TV.

The TV is not reality.


http://youtu.be/jMnOHLM-R-M

[Voltaire]

How to spot a fool?
The sound like the TV.

The TV is not reality.



The internet is Stewart's reality :rofl:

[yokel]

The internet is Stewart's reality :rofl:

And with the internet, I control the media.
http://thequotes.in/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/jim-morrison-quotes-7.jpg



http://youtu.be/NNJS8Ihctbc

[Woodman]

And with the internet, I control the media.
http://thequotes.in/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/jim-morrison-quotes-7.jpg



http://youtu.be/NNJS8Ihctbc

Says a long dead celebrity heroin addict.

[Voltaire]

Says a long dead celebrity heroin addict.

Media controls the mind...what drivel....anyway Jims not dead.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/aZ08Uyz11WDl.jpg

[husaberg]

What happens if that doctrine was ... politically correct..and has some, or more correctly, quite a lot of truth and that the western media , which is owned by a few families , is false
Example ... Barbarossa, why was the Russian army over taken in the early stages so quickly
Was it because the Russians were on the offensive? If the Russian were on the defensive , how far would the Germans have got?
Simple question that opens up too many doors .....
If you follow western retoric back the picture does indeed change


sent for a divine source
The Nazi doctrine was, plus has never been politically or factually correct. It was a a bogeyman hate policy inspired to shift blame onto others.
Which is exactly what oldie promotes
In case you missed it all the experienced Russian military officers were killed by Stalin prior to the war. also Stalin was a piss poor military CNC.
The Russians prior to that were fighting on the Germans side, despite warnings from the Us and English intelligence that the germans were preparing to invade russa Stalin was too naive to believe it would happen.
Hilter was also too stupid to realise he couldn't win a war on three fronts at the same time.


And where does that leave you? - the follower of a follower? - your natural value = nil - Eat my dust! :ride:
Funny distortion of reality that does not in anyway respond tologic
I guess you have been swallowing to much of what katman and his Aryan brotherhood mates post on storm front

[Brian d marge]

The Nazi doctrine was, plus has never been politically or factually correct. It was a a bogeyman hate policy inspired to shift blame onto others.
Which is exactly what oldie promotes
In case you missed it all the experienced Russian military officers were killed by Stalin prior to the war. also Stalin was a piss poor military CNC.
The Russians prior to that were fighting on the Germans side, despite warnings from the Us and English intelligence that the germans were preparing to invade russa Stalin was too naive to believe it would happen.
Hilter was also too stupid to realise he couldn't win a war on three fronts at the same time.


Funny distortion of reality that does not in anyway respond tologic
I guess you have been swallowing to much of what katman and his Aryan brotherhood mates post on storm front

it might be the opposite , for ex: yes , Stalin was famous for shooting his officers , how many were shot after Barbarossa? ,,,not many, if at all ,,,now why would that be ??? and IF the Russians WERE on the offensive that would mean Germany HAD to attack , and even a raving loony would know that having a second front against Russia isnt one of the best ideas UNLESS , one thinks that the other front may not exist , i.e become peaceful . , i.e Germany expected Britain to become an ...ally ( after all shacht and Montague Norman were best buddies ....)

Hows that open mind going?

[oldrider]

Funny distortion of reality that does not in anyway respond tologic
I guess you have been swallowing to much of what katman and his Aryan brotherhood mates post on storm front

The shill cry of the cut and paste king of KB - see all know all fuck all. :sick:

[husaberg]

The shill cry of the cut and paste king of KB - see all know all fuck all. :sick:

I know a guy that repeatedly posts unsolicited racial propaganda is a racist.

[bogan]

The shill cry of the cut and paste king of KB - see all know all fuck all. :sick:

It's actually copy and paste, since the source remains. But you go on blithering if you like, you've got up a good head of steam so don't let me slow you down...

[husaberg]

it might be the opposite , for ex: yes , Stalin was famous for shooting his officers , how many were shot after Barbarossa? ,,,not many, if at all ,,,now why would that be ??? and IF the Russians WERE on the offensive that would mean Germany HAD to attack , and even a raving loony would know that having a second front against Russia isnt one of the best ideas UNLESS , one thinks that the other front may not exist , i.e become peaceful . , i.e Germany expected Britain to become an ...ally ( after all shacht and Montague Norman were best buddies ....)

Hows that open mind going?

Unfortunately your post ignores the fact that Hilter always intended to invade Russia just as he always intended to invade Poland as he deemed them to be inferior Slavs, plus both Russa and Poland had a lot of resources Germany desperately needed to continue to fight a war. oil, coal, gas, timber, arable farm land, slave labour.


“Bear in mind that between Germany and Russia there is Poland, that is completely in hands of France. In case of war between Germans, Russian alliance and Western European powers, for Russia, before it manages to send any soldier to German front, will have to beat Poland first. In such war thing lies more in armament not in count of soldiers”.A Hitler 1925


“We want to halt pointless German crushing in south and west of Europe and we point our finger to the territory that lies in the west. We completely break our past colonial and trade policy and deliberately turn to acquiring new lands in Europe. We can only consider Russia and its neighboring countries.”
A Hitler 1925


Hitler was also a megalomaniac that like Stalin refused to follow his own military advice.
Stalin could not dispose of his military offices after he was invaded, as he already had killed off too many prior. thus he desperately needed them.
But yes Hitler was deluded enough to think that England would become a allies.
The only problem he overlooked was, Britain had no reason to fight Russia, plus plenty of reasons to continue to fight Germany.

[oldrider]

It's actually copy and paste, since the source remains. But you go on blithering if you like, you've got up a good head of steam so don't let me slow you down...

Birds of a feather post together - nough said! :sick:

[oldrider]

As they say - Only in America? - :scratch: (remember the film - Party at Bernie's?)

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[Ocean1]

Says a long dead celebrity heroin addict.


....anyway Jims not dead.

I think he meant Dilbert.

[Brian d marge]

Unfortunately your post ignores the fact that Hilter always intended to invade Russia just as he always intended to invade Poland as he deemed them to be inferior Slavs, plus both Russa and Poland had a lot of resources Germany desperately needed to continue to fight a war. oil, coal, gas, timber, arable farm land, slave labour.





Hitler was also a megalomaniac that like Stalin refused to follow his own military advice.
Stalin could not dispose of his military offices after he was invaded, as he already had killed off too many prior. thus he desperately needed them.
But yes Hitler was deluded enough to think that England would become a allies.
The only problem he overlooked was, Britten had no reason to fight Russia, plus plenty of reasons to continue to fight Germany.
If I remember he pointed out in his book that at some point the Russian problem would have to be faced ...
Why? After all the Frogs didn't do to well , disastrous retreat....

Is it because he knew who was pulling strings , as you would if you received your money from the same source.

So why would you expose yourself to 2 substantial fronts UNLESS
A. You had no choice
B. Something you expected to happen didnt leaving u in a difficult position

sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

If I remember he pointed out in his book that at some point the Russian problem would have to be faced ...
Why? After all the Frogs didn't do to well , disastrous retreat....

Is it because he knew who was pulling strings , as you would if you received your money from the same source.

So why would you expose yourself to 2 substantial fronts UNLESS
A. You had no choice
B. Something you expected to happen didnt leaving u in a difficult position
C You are a total egomaniac nutter who actually mistakenly believes he a warfare genius, who also flatly refuses to listen to his far more experienced generals.
sent for a divine source

Its clearly C

The frogs didn't do so well as they were caught out with a unexpected flanking move. Straight through the Forrest of the Arden with heavy armour. This was something the frogs considered impossible.
In case you missed it all their defence was based on a WW1 style static front war of a attrition with a forest line of defence.
They also did not want their country and capital destroyed and burnt to the ground like Warsaw and the rest of Poland.

[Voltaire]

Its clearly C

The frogs didn't do so well as they were caught out with a unexpected flanking move. Straight through the Forrest of the Arden with heavy armour. This was something the frogs considered impossible.
In case you missed it all their defence was based on a WW1 style static front war of a attrition with a forest line of defence.
They also did not want their country and capital destroyed and burnt to the ground like Warsaw and the rest of Poland.

The Germans had a good handle on Bltizkreig tactical warfare, they had been practicing it since 1936 in Spain, the French on the other hand had a very long border to defend and

after the horrors of WW1 only 20 years earlier why would you want to repeat that.

If it had not been for the Americans I'd imagine Aussie and NZ would have fallen in a matter of weeks.

[husaberg]

The Germans had a good handle on Bltizkreig tactical warfare, they had been practicing it since 1936 in Spain, the French on the other hand had a very long border to defend and

after the horrors of WW1 only 20 years earlier why would you want to repeat that.

If it had not been for the Americans I'd imagine Aussie and NZ would have fallen in a matter of weeks.

A long border alright, one which also bordered Italy, which also many forget also invaded France as well.
Yeah we would all be driving around in Japanese vehicles..........:lol:

[Brian d marge]

Its clearly C

The frogs didn't do so well as they were caught out with a unexpected flanking move. Straight through the Forrest of the Arden with heavy armour. This was something the frogs considered impossible.
In case you missed it all their defence was based on a WW1 style static front war of a attrition with a forest line of defence.
They also did not want their country and capital destroyed and burnt to the ground like Warsaw and the rest of Poland.

hows that open mind going??

Sorry my bad , I meant Napoleon ( should have been more clear )

but doesn't it seem strange that an ( Hitler) artist , who was health conscious , loved animals , didn't drink or smoke and had an affinity with Britain ( cliveden set , Montague Normand , shacht etc ) and did what at that time 1 other had done , create a monetary system outside of the international bankers.

( abe Lincoln , Kennedy and Gaddaffi all moved away from international debt based money and they ALL met a similar fate)

So could there be an argument for a white washing of History. ?? I think yes . ( for the record I don't care either way about the German leader , he was a just a pawn in a bigger picture )

and if you want a real laugh , follow the money ( gold ) AFTER the war .. Where DID the money for the marshal plan come from? Britain was broke ....So the Americans out ouf the kindness of their heart , invested into infrastructure in BOTH defeated countries ( iRAQ anyone !) ...

another question why I think of it , WHY did Patton ( or the guy who took over.... Omar Bradly ) NOT go for Berlin , I mean pearl handle pistols , an ego bigger than my credit card bill , and the prize of Berlin was given to the Russians??? ( YEAH RIGHT ) ... WHAT was the real prize Patton( or Bradly ) was told to find ...

I content that it was the Nazi research center in Poland , and why did the British head towards Norway ? :msn-wink:

no Im doing this from memory , and you know what my memory is like !

tis why they call me Brian ....

[husaberg]

hows that open mind going??

Sorry my bad , I meant Napoleon ( should have been more clear )

but doesn't it seem strange that an ( Hitler) artist , who was health conscious , loved animals , didn't drink or smoke and had an affinity with Britain ( cliveden set , Montague Normand , shacht etc ) and did what at that time 1 other had done , create a monetary system outside of the international bankers.

( abe Lincoln , Kennedy and Gaddaffi all moved away from international debt based money and they ALL met a similar fate)

So could there be an argument for a white washing of History. ?? I think yes . ( for the record I don't care either way about the German leader , he was a just a pawn in a bigger picture )

and if you want a real laugh , follow the money ( gold ) AFTER the war .. Where DID the money for the marshal plan come from? Britain was broke ....So the Americans out ouf the kindness of their heart , invested into infrastructure in BOTH defeated countries ( iRAQ anyone !) ...

another question why I think of it , WHY did Patton NOT go for Berlin , I mean pearl handle pistols , an ego bigger than my credit card bill , and the prize of Berlin was given to the Russians??? ( YEAH RIGHT ) ... WHAT was the real prize Patton was told to find ...

I content that it was the Nazi research center in Poland , and why did the British head towards Norway ? :msn-wink:

no Im doing this from memory , and you know what my memory is like !

tis why they call me Brian ....
An artist is a considerable stretch, a failed artist, with minimal talent, who was at best only a capable draughtsman.
Hilter did not create anything other than a empire that was destroyed in short fashion, along with most of his subjects.
Contrary to what you purport ,He also borrowed up huge and created massive debts he could never pay, which was why he ransacked half of Europe.
It had nothing to do with money, other than his own greed for power.
The other two examples are ridiculous at best, in case you never realised Hussain and ab Lincon met similar fates to Kennedy and Gadaffi yet did not have anything to do with changes to monetary systems.
Simple reason Patton never went for Belin is was it was a futile loss of life caused by Hitler's refusal to surrender, as was his executions right up to the last minute for treason.
ps what about the gold during the war?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTYGmjgSMv8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyVkHUFdmsk

[Brian d marge]

An artist is a considerable stretch, a failed artist, with minimal talent, who was at best only a capable draughtsman.
Hilter did not create anything other than a empire that was destroyed in short fashion, along with most of his subjects.
Contrary to what you purport ,He also borrowed up huge and created massive debts he could never pay, which was why he ransacked half of Europe.
It had nothing to do with money, other than his own greed for power.
The other two examples are ridiculous at best, in case you never realised Hussain and ab Lincon met similar fates to Kennedy and Gadaffi yet did not have anything to do with changes to monetary systems.
Simple reason Patton never went for Belin is was it was a futile loss of life caused by Hitler's refusal to surrender, as was his executions right up to the last minute for treason.


Who where these debt owed to? considering the Renttenmark was a internal land backed currency and his labour treasury certificates. and Prescott bush , investing willy nilly !

As for the monetary system , sorry , greenback , and Kennedy silver ( the dollar notes with the red writing on them ) and the dinar , moving away from the petro dollar

As for Omar bradly ( whom took over from patton , I just checked ) , YEAH right , ya dont give the bragging rights to a lesser power UNLESS there is a bigger prize
IMHO

[husaberg]

Who where these debt owed to? considering the Renttenmark was a internal land backed currency and his labour treasury certificates. and Prescott bush , investing willy nilly !

As for the monetary system , sorry , greenback , and Kennedy silver ( the dollar notes with the red writing on them ) and the dinar , moving away from the petro dollar

As for Omar bradly ( whom took over from patton , I just checked ) , YEAH right , ya dont give the bragging rights to a lesser power UNLESS there is a bigger prize
IMHO

International debts Stephen don't tell me you forgot about them you have even posted about them before

Didnt help much

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/BSPDRWeltkriseEngl.PNG

And if i remember germany had come off the gold standard in about 33 and was funding internal expansion through government issued bonds as well as a refusal to payback overseas debt

Except one the dawes and young loan

Ps

Bank of england and old monty . . And scharcht best mates

And owned by the zionist
Look at the zionist finger prints all over the german economy until Georing took over



Funny enough
Later, after Hitler was elected Chancellor he made a deal with Alfried Krupp - then Europe's leading industrialist - that if he would help him convince the rest of Germany's leading industrialists to back the Nazi party both politically and financially, Hitler would make sure Krupp would get preferred treatment during the rebuilding of the army. The deals he made with the others was that they would get government contracts when he rebuilt Germany's military if they would start hiring and tell their workers to support the Nazi party as the economic saviour of Germany. In addition he arranged for loans from Germany's leading banks and financiers based on the introductions from Krupp and the other industrialists to help fund public works projects aimed at getting Germans back to work and preparing the nation's infrastructure for what was to come. This is all described in Alfried Krupp's autobiography; he survived the war and a prison term and even got his family's steel works back into operation before he died.

In the wake of the world economic crisis, unemployment was high in Europe. Germany had even more financial problems than other nations because of obligations in the Treaty of Versailles, a consequence of WWI. Nevertheless, unemployment decreased in Germany more than elsewhere in Europe because Hitler and Schacht used deficit spending to finance massive job-creation programs. From 1936 on, these programs focused on re-armament. They were mostly financed by means of so-called Mefo bills, a system of deferred payment. Mefo (full name: Metallurgische Forschungsgesellschaft mbH) was a shell company (founded by Schacht) whose sole function was to accept promissory notes, mainly from armament manufacturers. This created a bubble economy, and Schacht stepped down in 1939, but the whole scandal was covered up when war broke out.

Nazi government was operating on the edge as early as 1937, and that looting the Austrian treasury in that year kept things afloat. Siezing the Ceczh treasury in early 1939 helped as well.
Germany's current balance of payments moved into deficit in 1938. In the winter of 38/39 Hitler faced a choice of either curtailing civilian consumption or slowing down rearmament.

Goering November 1938 "There is a tremendous shortage of skilled workers .....This cannot be relieved through closing down the factories which produce seemingly unimportant consumer goods. For when the workers can no longer buy consumer goods for their wages......that is the beginning of inflation, and that is the beginning of the end".
The Nazis given Germany's recent history of hyper inflation would naturally wish to avoid inflation at all costs. Hitler 22 August 1939 "Our economic situation is such that we can hold out a few more years.....We have no other choice, we must act".

Military outlays as a percent of national income (GDP for Germany):
1935: France 5.8%, Britain 2% Germany 6%
1938: France 8.6%, Britain 8%, Germany 17.2%
1939: France 23%, Britain 22%, Germany 30%

Its pretty easy to see why and what the money was being spent on.

This was also contrary to popular belief despite being repeatedly given huge write offs and concessions from the WW1 war reparations
In 1933, the new German Chancellor Adolf Hitler cancelled all payments


Back then Stephan the treasury's assets were GOLD.......
looting assets from annexed Austria, occupied Czechoslovakia, and Nazi-governed Danzig. It is believed that these three sources boosted German official gold reserves by US $71m between 1937 and 1939.
They even managed by threatening the bank officials with death to get 50 tons of Czech reserve gold transferred over in England. Before anyone caught on.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/bank-of-england/10213988/Never-mind-the-Czech-gold-the-Nazis-stole....html

Well Bradley and Patton are both Tanks
but its pretty simple and entirely reasonable to let 100,000 of your allies soldiers die rather than your own, for a futile reason of capturing a defeated army.
The same reason that the US never went through with the plans to invade the Japanese mainland.

Ps I always thought it was Brian demarge because you spread easier than butter.

[Voltaire]

My old man used to wonder how Stalin managed to get such a large slice of Europe at Tehran or one of those conferences ( can't be arsed looking it up) when both Churchill and Roosevelt spoke English and Stalin did not.... Suspect Roosevelt was a Commie, probably why he died and Truman got it back on track.( last bit a diy conspiracy bit)

[Katman]

It was the decision made at Casablanca, to accept nothing less than unconditional surrender, that saw the war drag on for longer than necessary - along with the resulting deaths.

Clearly there was still good money to be made.

[husaberg]

My old man used to wonder how Stalin managed to get such a large slice of Europe at Tehran or one of those conferences ( can't be arsed looking it up) when both Churchill and Roosevelt spoke English and Stalin did not.... Suspect Roosevelt was a Commie, probably why he died and Truman got it back on track.( last bit a diy conspiracy bit)

My understanding was Poland was important to Russia as that is where they were normally invaded through.
Stalin was pretty upset that the other two had dragged their heels in opening the western front.
the US also needed Russia to open another front with Japan.
It was a deal of convenience.

ps it was in the Crimea at Yalta, as Smoking joe was scared of flying. that the borders were decided.
the first meting was at iran. where D.day was planned
Stalin never went to the Casablanca conference. No mater what katman thinks


Casablanca Conference
Morocco January 14 – 24, 1943 Churchill, Roosevelt, Charles de Gaulle, Henri Giraud
Plan Italian Campaign, plan cross-channel invasion in 1944, declaration of "unconditional surrender" of Axis, incitement to unify French fighting authorities of London and Algiers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_conferences

[Katman]

Stalin never went to the Casablanca conference. No mater what katman thinks

I never said he did, you stupid fuck.

[husaberg]

I never said he did, you stupid fuck.

put down the p pipe and look what you replied to you cretin.


My old man used to wonder how Stalin managed to get such a large slice of Europe at Tehran or one of those conferences ( can't be arsed looking it up) when both Churchill and Roosevelt spoke English and Stalin did not.... Suspect Roosevelt was a Commie, probably why he died and Truman got it back on track.( last bit a diy conspiracy bit)


It was the decision made at Casablanca, to accept nothing less than unconditional surrender, that saw the war drag on for longer than necessary - along with the resulting deaths.

Clearly there was still good money to be made.

[Katman]

Look what you replied to you cretin.

I added a comment.

I didn't 'reply' to anyone.

You stupid fuck.

[husaberg]

You are both stupid, narcissistic, paranoid, deluded and wrong. I will shorten it though, you are katman

ps that's not a reply to you. Its just a comment

[awa355]

I never said he did, you stupid fuck.


put down the p pipe and look what you replied to you cretin.

Have you two given thought to standing for the Presidential election yourselves? :shit::shit:

[husaberg]

Have you two given thought to standing for the Presidential election yourselves? :shit::shit:
Pretty sure you would need to be American.
Funny enough ol katman also believes in a lot a lot of the stuff Trump says.
katman can't even answer if he was speeding when he was fitted up for a speeding ticket by a corrupt NZ police and judicial system.
So how would he go on the hard questions like his own drug use.

[Katman]

katman can't even answer if he was speeding when he was fitted up for a speeding ticket by a corrupt NZ police and judicial system.
So how would he go on the hard questions like his own drug use.

:killingme

You stupid fuck.

[husaberg]

:killingme

You stupid fuck.

Still no answers to simple questions then
The offers open should you wish to take an IQ test against me, then we can see who is the stupid fuck, I bet you are stupid enough be an American. (Sorry Jason)

[Brian d marge]

International debts Stephen don't tell me you forgot about them you have even posted about them before

Well Bradley and Patton are both Tanks
but its pretty simple and entirely reasonable to let 100,000 of your allies soldiers die rather than your own, for a futile reason of capturing a defeated army.
The same reason that the US never went through with the plans to invade the Japanese mainland.

Ps I always thought it was Brian demarge because you spread easier than butter.


And if i remember germany had come off the gold standard in about 33 and was funding internal expansion through government issued bonds as well as a refusal to payback overseas debt

Except one the dawes and young loan

As I said what debt ! ,

and its what NZ , greece and Ireland should have done or do . As fraudulent debts shouldnt be paid back.

yes , I said fraudulent.


ps buy me a can of waikato and see how easy I am ! ...

[husaberg]

And if i remember germany had come off the gold standard in about 33 and was funding internal expansion through government issued bonds as well as a refusal to payback overseas debt

Except one the dawes and young loan

As I said what debt ! ,

and its what NZ , greece and Ireland should have done or do . As fraudulent debts shouldnt be paid back.

yes , I said fraudulent.


ps buy me a can of waikato and see how easy I am ! ...

you answered it yourself (above) plus as Goering said they were basically bankrupt despite not paying their debt even after stealing all of the Czech and Austrian gold and wealth.
Nazi government was operating on the edge as early as 1937, and that looting the Austrian treasury in that year kept things afloat. Siezing the Ceczh treasury in early 1939 helped as well.

Germany's current balance of payments moved into deficit in 1938. In the winter of 38/39 Hitler faced a choice of either curtailing civilian consumption or slowing down rearmament.

Goering November 1938 "There is a tremendous shortage of skilled workers .....This cannot be relieved through closing down the factories which produce seemingly unimportant consumer goods. For when the workers can no longer buy consumer goods for their wages......that is the beginning of inflation, and that is the beginning of the end".
The Nazis given Germany's recent history of hyper inflation would naturally wish to avoid inflation at all costs. Hitler 22 August 1939 "Our economic situation is such that we can hold out a few more years.....We have no other choice, we must act".

By 1939 his bubble economy was about to burst.
Simply pretending debt doesn't exist doesn't actually work.

Waikato....Not only easy, but piss poor taste in beer as well.

[oldrider]

New twist looming in USA Presidential election? http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/homeland-eyes-special-declaration-to-take-charge-of-elections/article/2600592

Homeland eyes special declaration to take charge of elections --------- :rolleyes: Third term for Obama coming up? :shifty:

[jasonu]

, I bet you are stupid enough be an American. (Sorry Jason)

Get fucked!!!:motu:


Actually there isn't a lot in it...
https://www.iqtestforfree.net/average-IQ-by-country.html

[Banditbandit]

New twist looming in USA Presidential election? http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/homeland-eyes-special-declaration-to-take-charge-of-elections/article/2600592

Homeland eyes special declaration to take charge of elections --------- :rolleyes: Third term for Obama coming up? :shifty:


Scary idea .. but hardly grounds to worry that Obama will get a third term ..

[oldrider]

So near and yet so far away! - America? - anything can happen - are the Democrats (as has been suggested) flogging a dead horse? :corn:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/H133cTro1NQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Banditbandit]

Maybe a dead donkey ...

http://cliparts.co/cliparts/rcn/9qA/rcn9qAocR.jpg

[Akzle]

Maybe a dead donkey ...

[IMG]

bro your MS Paint 95 skills are l33t!

[yokel]

So near and yet so far away! - America? - anything can happen - are the Democrats (as has been suggested) flogging a dead horse? >

Man that's a big arse class of water, better be careful she don't overflow that catheter.


https://youtu.be/5dJ10x9ck_4

[husaberg]

Get fucked!!!:motu:


Actually there isn't a lot in it...
https://www.iqtestforfree.net/average-IQ-by-country.html

Gee I did say sorry after I insulted you.

[YellowDog]

Man that's a big arse class of water, better be careful she don't overflow that catheter.


https://youtu.be/5dJ10x9ck_4

Sexy !!

'cos doesn't Michelle Ob have a colostomy bag?

[Brian d marge]

One does wonder about the us bond market ...two and a quarter now?.... Who in their right mind would buy us debt..
Especially after Obama missed out on the red carpet..

Classic snub ...






sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

One does wonder about the us bond market ...two and a quarter now?.... Who in their right mind would buy us debt..
Especially after Obama missed out on the red carpet..

Classic snub ...






sent for a divine source

So how do Japan and china get on?

[Brian d marge]

So how do Japan and china get on?
Officially not very well , though Japan is moving into Africa using the same technique as china , please trade with us and we will build your roads
So I feel that on the surface, like nz , is all usa usa usa...but actually
Tis a dangerous game as the us is using Asia to ring fence china and Russia ....and from what Putin is saying and the state of the petrodollar
I'm worried

And I'll be more worried if Hitlary rotten Clinton gets in ....

sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

Officially not very well , though Japan is moving into Africa using the same technique as china , please trade with us and we will build your roads
So I feel that on the surface, like nz , is all usa usa usa...but actually
Tis a dangerous game as the us is using Asia to ring fence china and Russia ....and from what Putin is saying and the state of the petrodollar
I'm worried

And I'll be more worried if Hitlary rotten Clinton gets in ....

sent for a divine source
I was being facetious about China Japan
Ring fence China?
So you find it acceptable for China to claim total ownership of a the international waters in the south China Sea?
I'd be worried too if I was the Philippines or a lot of other countries in the area.

[Brian d marge]

I was being facetious about China Japan
Ring fence China?
So you find it acceptable for China to claim total ownership of a the international waters in the south China Sea?
I'd be worried too if I was the Philippines or a lot of other countries in the area.
Check your history ... Japan wasn't interested in those islands Until oil was found and fishing became important
Yes ring fence china ... Zibrnow old game plane

Read his book

sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

Check your history ... Japan wasn't interested in those islands Until oil was found and fishing became important
Yes ring fence china ... Zibrnow old game plane

Read his book

sent for a divine source

er I was talking about the other neighbours like the Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan, Cambodia Malaysia, Brunei in the south China sea. Not really about Japan and Chinas little island spat
You know international waters and international shipping lanes that are errr International.
Why China is preventing people from using these and claiming ownership of areas that are international.

https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/territorial-disputes
324283

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kz0JTEoXXc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwaZdz-tITY

[Oscar]

Off topic, but enough of the foil hat brigade are here:

https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14222329_10206889935509965_694405370196084697_n.jp g?oh=4e5197deada26adc546f9d6ac98a7c55&oe=587C356B

[Ocean1]

Off topic, but enough of the foil hat brigade are here:

:laugh: Magic.

[Virago]

...ring fence china and Russia...

Yes. We're going to build a big fence - and China and Russia are going to pay for it.

[husaberg]

Yes. We're going to build a big fence - and China and Russia are going to pay for it.

Orange is the new RED........
http://i.guancha.cn/mobile/news/2016/06/28/20160628150232240.jpghttps://justrivals-webassets.s3.amazonaws.com/rivals/8a8ac079b09f4fd1808d01d5b673f1b6.jpg


http://xnug.tv/images/media/649abf84-868a-4708-9e9f-56ac05fd77e4596x425.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLSy8Tl2bjs

[Brian d marge]

Yes. We're going to build a big fence - and China and Russia are going to pay for it.
The British one is better ...British built ,

sent for a divine source

[oldrider]

Opinion that American (USA) presidential election is fake - really? :rolleyes: http://www.globalresearch.ca/entire-us-presidential-election-is-fake-from-start-to-finish/5544436

[yokel]

Well looks like Hillary just hacked up an offspring or something into the big are glass, fucking gross.
You can't make this shit up haha.


http://youtu.be/4fuui9qICYg

[yokel]

Journalist says he's not suicidal or accident prone.


http://youtu.be/xHhNr5jeTIw

[oldrider]

[Quote] I Am A Syrian Living in Syria: “It was Never a Revolution nor a Civil War. The Terrorists are sent by your Government”

By Mark Taliano, September 07 2016

Two years ago, “Majd” wrote these words on a Facebook posting: “ I am Syrian… living in Syria in the middle of everything. We have seen horrors. It was never a revolution nor a civil war. The terrorists are sent by your goverment. They are al Qaeda Jabhat al Nusra Wahhabi Salafists Talibans etc and the like extremists jihadists sent by the West and the Saudis and Qatar and Turkey. Your Obama and whoever is behind him or above him are supporting al Qaeda and leading a proxy war on my country. We thought you are against al Qaeda and now you support them.

Syria? - but not as MSM would have you believe! :oi-grr: http://www.globalresearch.ca/selected-articles-i-am-a-syrian-living-in-syria-it-was-never-a-revolution-nor-a-civil-war-the-terrorists-are-sent-by-your-government/5544518?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

What difference will either Trump or Clinton make in Syria or the Middle East generally should they be - "elected"? :scratch:

[Virago]

Gotta giggle at the furore over Clinton's coughing fit, and it's significant indication about her health.

Is there a human being alive who doesn't have the occasional coughing fit?

I had one myself yesterday. Should I get myself to A&E as soon as possible?

[neels]

The US presidential election is a huge farce.

Have just come back from a holiday there, and after talking to a few locals the same theme emerges....

Republicans will vote republican
Democrats will vote democrat

Both sides pretty much equally hate Hillary and Trump, but will vote by colour as they feel obliged to do so.

They all seem to also have the opinion that they have been engineered into a lesser of 2 evils situation, so will continue to vote along party lines due to the lack of a credible reason not to.

Long live the land of the dollar, oops, I mean free.....

[Brian d marge]

Gotta giggle at the furore over Clinton's coughing fit, and it's significant indication about her health.

Is there a human being alive who doesn't have the occasional coughing fit?

I had one myself yesterday. Should I get myself to A&E as soon as possible?
Yes but bigger picture
If she cannot complete the job the vice president takes over
And they are. ???? Council on foreign relations and the other is all
AIPAC...
Also it's a fall that caused a head injury ..
It's not if , but when and it's will suck goat balls for anyone living near the action
.....

Doh! ..oh bollox.....

sent for a divine source

[Banditbandit]

Gotta giggle at the furore over Clinton's coughing fit, and it's significant indication about her health.

Is there a human being alive who doesn't have the occasional coughing fit?

I had one myself yesterday. Should I get myself to A&E as soon as possible?

Only if you've been around pigs recently - get checked for swine flu ..

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/77627/original.jpg

[pritch]

They all seem to also have the opinion that they have been engineered into a lesser of 2 evils situation, so will continue to vote along party lines due to the lack of a credible reason not to.



Except that some may feel voting in such an election is just not worth the trouble. Low voter numbers tend to favour the right, so it may be that the Democrats stay home and Trump is elected President by default.

The low turnout will be exacerbated by the "voter ID" requirements intended to disqualify black people, welfare recipients, and students, from voting in Republican controlled states.

There are some remarkably silly stories doing the rounds. Some are started by satire sites but are picked up by activists and repeated as fact. One that repeats almost every election states that Obama will not leave office at the end of his term. That's not possible for a number of reasons. Come what may his term ends 20/1/17 (or whatever the actual date is). The Vice President is sworn in first so that if anything happens to the Presidential nominee in the next few minutes the VP takes over immediately.

The Republicans like to make much of the FBI prosecuting a case against Hillary arising from her use of a private email server which may disqualify her from office. The only crimes which may disqualify a President from holding office are those committed while actually in office. Crimes committed prior are irrelevant. At least one person has stood for President from prison.

That people who believe these fairy tales have the right to vote is a worry.

[oldrider]

That people who believe these fairy tales have the right to vote is a worry.

The bigger the mess such as is the case this US presidential election the greater the example that the system has you by the balls - no matter what!

Your assertion that people (no matter what and who may believe anything) have the right to vote is a worry - because it proves that the system is infallible!

As long as we have the right to vote and believe that it is meaningful we are well and truly screwed! :facepalm:

"COMPLY" - and or accept the consequences! :doh: - :bye:

[jasonu]

They all seem to also have the opinion that they have been engineered into a lesser of 2 evils situation, so will continue to vote along party lines due to the lack of a credible reason not to.

.....

Insert any country name (that still have voter type elections) in the above statement.

[yokel]

The US presidential election is a huge farce.

Have just come back from a holiday there, and after talking to a few locals the same theme emerges....

Republicans will vote republican
Democrats will vote democrat

Both sides pretty much equally hate Hillary and Trump, but will vote by colour as they feel obliged to do so.

They all seem to also have the opinion that they have been engineered into a lesser of 2 evils situation, so will continue to vote along party lines due to the lack of a credible reason not to.

Long live the land of the dollar, oops, I mean free.....

And that farce is created by dishonest misleading MSM.


http://youtu.be/g95KRpSTujg

Hillary is clearly sick, and is unable to even conduct an press conference.
What's it been, Some 280+ days now?


http://youtu.be/HoBL7fqOVcQ

[yokel]

And now the MSM is trying to say Hillary is having trubble expressing emotions.

OK TV box, whatever you say


http://youtu.be/vqYJRc0TJkQ

[pritch]

As someone else said, "It's as if the US has been set an intelligence test - and they are not doing very well."

[Akzle]

And now the MSM is trying to say Hillary is having trubble expressing emotions.

OK TV box, whatever you say

your pretty much single-handedly determined to keep this thread alive.

why do you give so much of a fuck??

[oldrider]

your pretty much single-handedly determined to keep this thread alive.

why do you give so much of a fuck??

Not so much as giving a fuck - but to follow along and see just how low this circus can go - so far? - incredible! - and the Americans let them get away with it!

Mind you we are are carbon copy of the same thing! :rolleyes:

[jasonu]

As someone else said, "It's as if the US has been set an intelligence test - and they are not doing very well."

Erm you cunts aren't all that either...
There isn't much in it.
https://www.iqtestforfree.net/average-IQ-by-country.html

[YellowDog]

Erm you cunts aren't all that either...
There isn't much in it.
https://www.iqtestforfree.net/average-IQ-by-country.html

We passed our test. It was called 'Kim Dotcom' :lol:

[awa355]

Erm you cunts aren't all that either...
There isn't much in it.
https://www.iqtestforfree.net/average-IQ-by-country.html

We don't need to be all that bright. We have DonKey looking after us. He tells us what is the best for us. :brick::brick::brick:

[YellowDog]

The most worrying part of that chart is that it shows we are getting stupider, whereas the Yanks are not ��

[Brian d marge]

The most worrying part of that chart is that it shows we are getting stupider, whereas the Yanks are not ��
Race to the bottom

sent for a divine source

[YellowDog]

HILARY CLINTON PLANS BIG WITHDRAWAL
http://noiimages.s3.amazonaws.com/images/redstate/20160729-1938150304.jpeg
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=37039

[jasonu]

HILARY CLINTON PLANS BIG WITHDRAWAL
http://noiimages.s3.amazonaws.com/images/redstate/20160729-1938150304.jpeg
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=37039



There might actually be something to that.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-says-im-feeling-great-had-left-9-11-event-early/ar-AAiLvEu?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=EIE9HP

I hope that greedy cunt drops dead!!!

[yokel]

Hillary Clinton collapses due to ' overheating'.
Just like the twin towers haha .


http://youtu.be/zXX6XZuV4zI

[YellowDog]

Hillary Clinton collapses due to ' overheating'.
Just like the twin towers haha .


http://youtu.be/zXX6XZuV4zI

Could have been anyone :wacko:

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37332106

[jasonu]

Could have been anyone :wacko:

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37332106

True but it wasn't just anyone.

[Voltaire]

clearly a cover up Stewart, could only find it on Fox News.:niceone:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5120530968001/video-appears-to-show-clinton-collapse-as-she-leaves-event/

[YellowDog]

clearly a cover up Stewart, could only find it on Fox News.:niceone:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5120530968001/video-appears-to-show-clinton-collapse-as-she-leaves-event/

She's been jabbed with a Plutonium tipped umbrella.

It's the only way the Democrats can save the election :o

[jasonu]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/doctor-clinton-has-pneumonia-recovering-after-9-11-event/ar-AAiLvEu?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=EIE9HP

Hopefully it is terminal.

[yokel]

clearly a cover up Stewart, could only find it on Fox News.:niceone:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5120530968001/video-appears-to-show-clinton-collapse-as-she-leaves-event/

Fuck you're draft cunt, They tried to but failed.
Where were all the reporters when this went down?
Oh they were penned up while they snuck out the back door.

I hope the phrase 'conspiracy theory' dies when Hillary does.

Anyone with eyes attached to their brain can see shes been sick as sin for quite some time.

It's quite ironic thats this happened on 9/11


https://youtu.be/uq7yHddozqg

[TheDemonLord]

Anyone with eyes attached to their brain can see shes been sick as sin for quite some time.


True - she was and stayed married to Bill.....

[oldrider]

Nobody Shows up for Hillary in Kansas City (Twitter) http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2016/09/nobody-shows-up-for-hillary-in-kansas-city-3184355.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=beforeitsnews :corn:

[pritch]

Where were all the reporters when this went down?
Oh they were penned up while they snuck out the back door.

I hope the phrase 'conspiracy theory' dies when Hillary does.

Anyone with eyes attached to their brain can see shes been sick as sin for quite some time.

It's quite ironic thats this happened on 9/11




'Just asking the question', but this could possibly form the basis of a case study into paranoia?

[Brian d marge]

No they like their numbers. Do a little research and check the dates .... Notice in July things went silly nothing in august so to speak

Whether it's true or no , no one can tell ,,, but when the same thing keep happening or the same numbers keep popping up ....
Now she smells of fish .....

Why did Douglas adams use 42 as a number .... that wasn't a random number plucked out of thing air ....

sent for a divine source

[Akzle]

Why did Douglas adams use 42 as a number .... that wasn't a random number plucked out of thing air ....

smith. agent smith.

or rainbows. who really knows?

[Brian d marge]

smith. agent smith.

or rainbows. who really knows?
The arc of a rainbow rounded is .....


42

sent for a divine source

[Akzle]

Why did Douglas adams use 42 as a number .... that wasn't a random number plucked out of thing air ....

smith. agent smith.

or rainbows. who really knows?

[Brian d marge]

smith. agent smith.

or rainbows. who really knows?
Check your kabbalah....

sent for a divine source

[Virago]

Why did Douglas adams use 42 as a number .... that wasn't a random number plucked out of thing air ...

The ultimate answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything was calculated by a huge computer. Computers work in binary. 42 in binary is 101010.

So the ultimate answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is on-off-on-off-on-off...

[Brian d marge]

The ultimate answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything was calculated by a huge computer. Computers work in binary. 42 in binary is 101010.

So the ultimate answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is on-off-on-off-on-off...

that would make sense since its the code my wife uses ,

[Akzle]

The ultimate answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything was calculated by a huge computer. Computers work in binary. 42 in binary is 101010.

So the ultimate answer to Life, the Universe and Everything is on-off-on-off-on-off...

no it actually starts with two zeros. read into that what you will.

modern jew computers use binary. if the ruskies were more popular we'd be rolling ternary, which is more eneregy efficient and better at fuzzy logic computation. but hey, there's money to be made.

[oldrider]

Have to agree somewhat with David Icke's take on the Trump situation in this interview.

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[Brian d marge]

Have to agree somewhat with David Icke's take on the Trump situation in this interview.

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Old ikee
He's a very entertaining speaker

And yes ... I've been looking into their use of numbers of late

And I agree

Dem fellas at da top

A batshyt fking nuts Zbiginew even LOOKS like he has sold his soul

Eugenics for the bloodline I reckon ...and their toadies..... donkey u listening


sent for a divine source

[Virago]

Have to agree somewhat with David Icke's take on the Trump situation in this interview.

Haven't had the time to watch it. Is Icke still claiming to be Jesus? And I'm assuming Trump is one of those lizard shape-shifters?

[Katman]

Haven't had the time to watch it. Is Icke still claiming to be Jesus?

Are you husaberk's twin?

[husaberg]

Haven't had the time to watch it. Is Icke still claiming to be Jesus? And I'm assuming Trump is one of those lizard shape-shifters?
324436324437324438

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiyrHZCksDM

[Katman]

Fuck me - speak of the devil......

[Virago]

Hey, it's on Youtube - it must be true...

[yokel]

FUCK! You stupid cunts are relentless.

No wonder the human race is so easily controlled .

[yokel]

And that farce is created by dishonest misleading MSM.


http://youtu.be/g95KRpSTujg

Hillary is clearly sick, and is unable to even conduct an press conference.
What's it been, Some 280+ days now?


http://youtu.be/HoBL7fqOVcQ

Notice in that one year to live vid, at 2:45

'Most people will die either from compilations of dementia, such as pneumonia'

[husaberg]

Hey, it's on Youtube - it must be true...

Daily motion as well

http://dai.ly/x11dci9

[mashman]

Haven't had the time to watch it. Is Icke still claiming to be Jesus? And I'm assuming Trump is one of those lizard shape-shifters?

He always has been, is and will be. No to Trump. You're welcome.

[Voltaire]

FUCK! You stupid cunts are relentless.

No wonder the human race is so easily controlled .

You went to see him, us kunts were waiting for the review.

[husaberg]

You went to see him, us kunts were waiting for the review.


You went to see him, us kunts were waiting for the review.

Shit there is a geiko in here.:whistle:

[Voltaire]

Clinton may have a body double

Whats MSM up to?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11709138

What silliness next....reptilian shape shifters lolz

Still waiting on the David Icke Review...:laugh:

[YellowDog]

Clinton may have a body double

Whats MSM up to?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11709138

What silliness next....reptilian shape shifters lolz

Still waiting on the David Icke Review...:laugh:

What's the shit about?

If Hilary & Bill are 'Shape-Shifters' (we all know they are 'cos we have proof) why would you need a body-double?

[Voltaire]

What's the shit about?

If Hilary & Bill are 'Shape-Shifters' (we all know they are 'cos we have proof) why would you need a body-double?

Oh Dohhh....coz you don't want the sheeple to know that, only the smart ones on R and R Bike Sites:laugh:

Can Reptilian Shape Shifters get pneumonia? or is that why they avoided the hospital or maybe she is a reptile that has gone rogue and the

Masters want Donald ( also a shapeshifter)

https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/hillary-clinton-shape-shifter.jpg


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-vgh65205Do/maxresdefault.jpg

[oldrider]

I can see further now the rain has gone :whistle: - all contributions greatly received and appreciated - or does the plot just get thicker? (read sicker) :lol:

[yokel]

Clinton may have a body double

Whats MSM up to?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11709138

What silliness next....reptilian shape shifters lolz

Still waiting on the David Icke Review...:laugh:

It's all strawman 'conspiracy theory' .
Whether the observation that it was indeed a body double is true or not is not that important.
But I would like to see some prof of life that the hildabest is still alive.

Just a distraction from her health issues.

http://youtu.be/KLop4NUxsQs


http://youtu.be/l-sVI-vcq-w

[Akzle]

.

Just a distraction from her health issues.]

who. fucken. cares???
fuck off and die already.

[YellowDog]

AND what does he know about anything? :lol:

https://nigelfarndale.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/colin-powell-backs-obama-on-national-security-recordscale.jpgw560.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/us/politics/colin-powell-emails-hack-donald-trump.html?_r=0

[pritch]

AND what does he know about anything? :lol:



When Powell was in Dubbya's cabinet he pissed Dubbya off so much he was sent on a tour overseas to get him out of the way. So he can't be all bad. :whistle:

[jasonu]

AND what does he know about anything? :lol:

https://nigelfarndale.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/colin-powell-backs-obama-on-national-security-recordscale.jpgw560.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/us/politics/colin-powell-emails-hack-donald-trump.html?_r=0

He also called HRC a pompous old cunt.

[TheDemonLord]

I do have a soft spot for Colin Powell.

[pritch]

He also called HRC a pompous old cunt.

Like I said, "He can't be all bad."

[pete376403]

Powell could have been great, if only he hadn't talked up the Iraqi WMDs that weren't. Instead he became just another lying political hack .

[Brian d marge]

Powell could have been great, if only he hadn't talked up the Iraqi WMDs that weren't. Instead he became just another lying political hack .
He is just one of the boys ...

sent for a divine source

[oldrider]

Powell could have been great, if only he hadn't talked up the Iraqi WMDs that weren't. Instead he became just another lying political hack .


He is just one of the boys ...

sent for a divine source

Sure was surprised when Powell chimed in with Bush and company on the Iraq WMD crap - even gave it a degree of respectability for a while! :o

The adage: "You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" - springs to mind! :rolleyes:

Americans and their patriotism? - none so blind as those who will not see! :facepalm: - look no further than the current election fiasco! :corn:

[yokel]

Hillary is done, just get the Scooby van to drop her at the nearest geriatric ward.

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/cheats/2016/09/16/donald-trump-embraces-les-deplorables-meme/jcr:content/image.img.707.jpg/49135605.cached.jpg


http://youtu.be/TEiTKloMgBg

[Brian d marge]

Hillary is done, just get the Scooby van to drop her at the nearest geriatric ward.

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/cheats/2016/09/16/donald-trump-embraces-les-deplorables-meme/jcr:content/image.img.707.jpg/49135605.cached.jpg


http://youtu.be/TEiTKloMgBg
As long as she has a pulse , the investments will pay off

sent for a divine source

[Virago]

Hillary is done, just get the Scooby van to drop her at the nearest geriatric ward.

Perhaps she needs a pair of your anti-gravity balls.

[oldrider]

Perhaps she needs a pair of your anti-gravity balls.

As a female she should be able to have as many pairs of balls as she likes! - reputation (if correct) indicates that she over subscribed! :eek:

Remember the adage: Women need a reason - me only require a place! :sick:

[mashman]

Story time

324521

In 1947, congress limited the president to 2 terms stating: "Too much power, for too long, is a threat to our freedom"

[oldrider]

Interesting article about whats really wrong with American politics: http://www.globalresearch.ca/zionist-israel-hides-its-crimes-behind-its-smears-of-truth-tellers/5524699 - Food for thought. :corn:

[mashman]

Interesting article about whats really wrong with American politics: http://www.globalresearch.ca/zionist-israel-hides-its-crimes-behind-its-smears-of-truth-tellers/5524699 - Food for thought. :corn:

You know that using the popcorn emote icon has been statistically linked to anti-semites, right?

[mashman]

New DNC Leaks Blow Hillary’s Health and Obama’s Corruption Wide Open (http://www.trueactivist.com/breaking-new-dnc-leaks-blow-hillarys-health-and-obamas-corruption-wide-open)... ya get what ya pay for it seems.

[yokel]

Interesting article about whats really wrong with American politics: http://www.globalresearch.ca/zionist-israel-hides-its-crimes-behind-its-smears-of-truth-tellers/5524699 - Food for thought. :corn:

Zionism and Nazism, the different sides of the same globalist coin.
https://mindcontrolblackassassins.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/satangoebbelscoin.gif

Hillary, sick as sin as always.


http://youtu.be/oQZyQC2Mr5k

[husaberg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CSDXtzaZIg

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump finally admitted Friday that "President Barack Obama was born in the United States," reversing himself on the issue that propelled him into national politics five years ago.
Trump sought to end his longstanding attempt to discredit the nation's first African-American president with just a few sentences tacked on at the end as he unveiled his new hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington.

But the issue isn't likely to die down any time soon -- especially as Trump continues to falsely blame Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton for starting the "birtherism" controversy. Clinton said earlier Friday that Trump's acknowledgment that
Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcbiGsDMmCM

[yokel]

Worng , Hillary started.
What a bunch of dumb cunts running her campaign,
Totally reliant on idiot's like yourself.

And according to the Muppet's in the MSM, Trump saying her bodyguards should disarm is some how inciting violence.



http://youtu.be/wYhCO2_ORhc

[Brian d marge]

Zionism and Nazism, the different sides of the same globalist coin.
https://mindcontrolblackassassins.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/satangoebbelscoin.gif

Hillary, sick as sin as always.


http://youtu.be/oQZyQC2Mr5k
That's right and if ya had 1000 sounds you got a get out of jail card
...

sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

Worng , Hillary started.

Well show me one speach or peiece of evidence that she ever claimed Obama was born outside the USA.
Or are you to full of shit?

Because i can likely link a 40 speeches of Trumps. Where he says he wasn't.

[yokel]

Well show me one speach or peiece of evidence that she ever claimed Obama was born outside the USA.
Or are you to full of shit?

Because i can likely link a 40 speeches of Trumps. Where he says he wasn't.

Her campaign started it, its was her campaign so she is responsible.

http://youtu.be/sv6sBjDZ1t0

You really are qute simple.

Fooled by google much?


http://youtu.be/9sTQEEHaQqc

[husaberg]

Her campaign started it, its was her campaign so she is responsible.

http://youtu.be/sv6sBjDZ1t0

You really are qute simple.

Fooled by google much?
http://youtu.be/9sTQEEHaQqc

No you said she started it.
Your exact words were Hillary started it.

Wrong , Hillary started it



Well show me one speech or peiece of evidence that she ever claimed Obama was born outside the USA.
Or are you to full of shit?

Because i can likely link a 40 speeches of Trumps. Where he says he wasn't.


Yet she never once said anything nor has her campain not one speech
Yet how many has many times has Trump said he was not born in the USA
Yes You are ofen fooled by google Yokel, antigravity energy balls springs to mind.
baha Its pretty simple what a yokel is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_7g2026bOo

What only Only 38 fact check itemised and sourced lies this week.
http://trumplies.com/1-week-38-lies/

[yokel]

No you said she started it.
Your exact words were Hillary started it.
Yet she never once sid anything nor has her capain not one speech
Yet how many has many times has Trump said he was not born in the USA
Yes You are ofen fooled by google Yokel, antigravity energy balls springs to mind.
baha Its pretty simple what a yokel is.

Yes she started it you dumb cunt,
She was running against Obama, Trump was not you drop kick.

[husaberg]

Yes she started it you dumb cunt,
She was running against Obama, Trump was not you drop kick.

Well as you are so sure of this fact, Then producing some evidence ie factual evidence will be so simple for you then.

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[oldrider]

Powell could have been great, if only he hadn't talked up the Iraqi WMDs that weren't. Instead he became just another lying political hack .

Here is cousin Colin Powell emerging again from the shadows with some (current) political jive: http://www.globalresearch.ca/colin-powell-acknowledges-israeli-nuclear-arsenal-200-israeli-nukes-targeted-against-iran/5546198

Who is the bigger nuclear threat to the world Iran or Israel? :scratch:

[pritch]

Yes she started it you dumb cunt,
She was running against Obama, Trump was not you drop kick.

You do need to understand that this opinion makes you a member of a very small minority and that many/most of the others may be suffering personality disorders. We say they are suffering personality disorders now 'cause it's no longer PC to call them nutters.

Trump was the standard bearer for the birther movement and it raised his profile from that of a local New York conman to a national political figure.

So you could say he did start running in 2008.

One thing puzzled me: if it was so important that Obama was born in the USA why was it not so serious when it became known that Ted Cruz was born in Canada? And yes, I know that Trump said Cruz should test his eleigibilty in court. Trump was in that respect at least consistent.

[oldrider]

There is a lot about American politics in here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/911-truth-15-years-later-the-anthrax-attacks-alleged-saudi-involvement-in-911-the-media-campaign/5546310

This for instance :corn: Interesting point of view! :shifty:


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[Akzle]

Yes she started it you dumb cunt,
She was running against Obama, Trump was not you drop kick.

Bro.
arguing with a husabitch is like....

well. there is no comparison. if you can visualise the lounge-room at your local IHC, and they all have hammers, probably a bit like walking into that with no pants on.

...half would be licking the hammer, the other half would be tonguing your balls while making some kind of retarded noise that it thinks means something.

[husaberg]

https://steynian.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/attentionhoor.jpg

[mashman]

Bro.
arguing with a husabitch is like....

well. there is no comparison. if you can visualise the lounge-room at your local IHC, and they all have hammers, probably a bit like walking into that with no pants on.

...half would be licking the hammer, the other half would be tonguing your balls while making some kind of retarded noise that it thinks means something.

bwaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. That's a little politically incorrect (thread pun)... irrespective of accuracy.

[mashman]

I watched this on farcebook and it crashed my browser. Twice! Who says artificial intelligence isn't here, good browser, smart browser, nice browser there there, would ya like a chocolate :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68qJN9MwDfY

[yokel]

More MSM lolz.
Maybe Hillary's mental illness is contagious?


http://youtu.be/SBfCehA_mJg

CNN and their 'fancy' editing skills


http://youtu.be/s4kj5nckR_c

[husaberg]

Yokels worst fears realised:corn:
http://www.waronwethepeople.com/alex-jones-protection-racketeer-personified-sherri-kane-dr-leonard-horowitz/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwURLwd8pEA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zftn8_ZqzDg

[yokel]

Have scientist's predictions ever been wrong before?

Some say Hillary's collapse on the anniversary of 9/11 and Benghazi was an act of divine intervention that has ended her campaign.

Is that Pepe the frog meme that Hillary is so afraid of in fact some kinda Egyptian/pagon god?
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/post/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/



http://youtu.be/5FU2nG9gTlc


http://youtu.be/UVybt9CO4N8

[Virago]

Have scientist's predations ever been wrong before?

No doubt. Being a scientist does not justify being a predator. It's morally wrong.

[oldrider]

Double take - who are the real offenders in this woeful world of ours? http://www.globalresearch.ca/will-russia-surrender/5546711?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

Interesting stuff for those who are genuinely interested. :corn:

[TheDemonLord]

I've decided - that if I were to Vote, I'd vote for Trump.

[mashman]

Double take - who are the real offenders in this woeful world of ours? http://www.globalresearch.ca/will-russia-surrender/5546711?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

Interesting stuff for those who are genuinely interested. :corn:

"The wider question is whether the extant socio-politico-economic systems can act in behalf of humanity. It is not clear that capitalist civilizations are capable of being humane, because worth is based on money, which makes greed and power the overpowering factors. It is possible that human evil and incompetence have destroyed not only the planet’s environment but also humane social systems. Globalism is not a scheme for cooperation."

I think there's enough evidence on here to know just how inhumane capitalists really are. Maybe they just need a hug.

[Akzle]

"Maybe they just need a hug.

around the throat.

with piano wire.

[Katman]

around the throat.

with piano wire.

I'll donate my piano.

[mashman]

around the throat.

with piano wire.

bwaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa... I thought I'd try love, logic and reason for a while.

[Katman]

bwaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa... I thought I'd try love, logic and reason for a while.

What were you saying last night about stupidity?

[mashman]

What were you saying last night about stupidity?

:laugh: Touche. What can I say, I like a challenge.

[YellowDog]

What were you saying last night about stupidity?

Give the guy a break. It was well after 'Beers a clock' :laugh:

[Ocean1]

"The wider question is whether the extant socio-politico-economic systems can act in behalf of humanity. It is not clear that capitalist civilizations are capable of being humane, because worth is based on money, which makes greed and power the overpowering factors. It is possible that human evil and incompetence have destroyed not only the planet’s environment but also humane social systems. Globalism is not a scheme for cooperation."

I think there's enough evidence on here to know just how inhumane capitalists really are. Maybe they just need a hug.

Really?

How about you go look at the history of the world's most wealthy people and let us know how much they've collectively given to charity.

Or you could just stumble on blindly in the secure belief that rich capitalist pricks are all cunts and they've somehow got their hands on your slice of the commune's pie.

[mashman]

Really?

How about you go look at the history of the world's most wealthy people and let us know how much they've collectively given to charity.

Or you could just stumble on blindly in the secure belief that rich capitalist pricks are all cunts and they've somehow got their hands on your slice of the commune's pie.

:killingme@charity. The Charitable-Industrial Complex By PETER BUFFETT (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/27/opinion/the-charitable-industrial-complex.html?_r=0)... that rich fullas son. Coz charity works :niceone:

Fortunately I don't have that belief... so it's eye wide open and lol@insanity time.

[Katman]

How about you go look at the history of the world's most wealthy people and let us know how much they've collectively given to charity.

When you say 'charity' are you talking solely about money given for purely humanitarian causes or are you including money donated to institutions?

[oldrider]


America is ISIS itself

The US Air strikes were deliberate, they were carefully planned and coordinated with ISIS-Daesh commandos on the ground.

The bombings enabled the ISIS-Daesh Islamic State mercenaries to wage an effective counterattack against Syrian government forces.

The “incident” was casually dismissed by America’s media: “US airstrikes Missed ISIS, but Damaged US Policy in Syria”.

Testimonies of Syrian Soldiers Who Witnessed the US Airstrikes http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-is-protecting-the-terrorists-america-to-the-rescue-of-isis-daesh-testimonies-of-syrian-soldiers-who-witnessed-the-us-airstrikes/5546610?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

What difference will either Trump or Clinton make to all this bullshit? - Business as usual or something worse! :yes:

[YellowDog]

Why are you stating this?

Mr Trump has already told us Obama & Clinton jointly founded ISIS ��

[Banditbandit]

The loose collection of jihads that now form ISIS have been around a lot longer than Obama or Clinton - have a look here.

http://www.crethiplethi.com/the-historical-roots-and-stages-in-the-development-of-isis/islamic-countries/syria-islamic-countries/2015/

[Katman]

The loose collection of jihads that now form ISIS have been around a lot longer than Obama or Clinton - have a look here.

http://www.crethiplethi.com/the-historical-roots-and-stages-in-the-development-of-isis/islamic-countries/syria-islamic-countries/2015/

While the foundations of ISIS pre-date Obama or Clinton, they formed as a direct result of America's meddling in the Middle East.

Some might say their formation was all part of the plan.

[Banditbandit]

While the foundations of ISIS pre-date Obama or Clinton, they formed as a direct result of America's meddling in the Middle East.

Some might say their formation was all part of the plan.

Bush and then Bush meddled in the middle east - yeah Obama continued it .. the problem is once they are in it fucking hard to get out without leaving absolute chaos behind .. which is pretty much what the US has done in Iraq .. leaving a vacuum for the jihadists to come together and for DAESH/ISIS

Yeah - it could be seen as a direct result - but hardly planned or desired ..

[Katman]

Bush and then Bush meddled in the middle east - yeah Obama continued it .. the problem is once they are in it fucking hard to get out without leaving absolute chaos behind .. which is pretty much what the US has done in Iraq .. leaving a vacuum for the jihadists to come together and for DAESH/ISIS

Yeah - it could be seen as a direct result - but hardly planned or desired ..

Why "hardly planned or desired"?

It suits Israel perfectly.

[Voltaire]

The Middle East is always going to be a shambles with wonderful people like the House of Saud and Mullahs calling the shots or

chops.

US and UK would be better of telling them pricks to keep their oil.

Good doco on Netflix about Saudi.

[oldrider]

Why are you stating this?

Mr Trump has already told us Obama & Clinton jointly founded ISIS ��

Mainly because the Americans keep breaking the truce in Syria by "accidentally" bombing Assad's troops helping ISIS and blaming Russia via the MSM. :blip:

I find it interesting to hear the other view point - thought you might too! :corn: