The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[husaberg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_MwpagOWo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c89u3a9n0b0

[Viking01]

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3014759/us-election-2020-trump-campaign-dumps-pollsters

[pritch]

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3014759/us-election-2020-trump-campaign-dumps-pollsters

Reading that I was thinking, "Not again". He had done that a few months ago. But no, that's a report from June.



This morning I saw a tweet from Trump about an imaginary big election win in 2016. Hillary Clinton slapped him back to reality.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Wow, Report Just Out! Google manipulated from 2.6 million to 16 million votes for Hillary Clinton in 2016 Election! This was put out by a Clinton supporter, not a Trump Supporter! Google should be sued. My victory was even bigger than thought!


Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
The debunked study you’re referring to was based on 21 undecided voters. For context that’s about half the number of people associated with your campaign who have been indicted.

[Banditbandit]

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/denmark-offers-to-buy-us


Excellent find.

But I think that the Danes are sensible enough to know that might
be a little bit too ambitious. Besides, what would be the payoff ?

Get China to foreclose on the loans Denmark will get a bargain then ..

[Banditbandit]

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3014759/us-election-2020-trump-campaign-dumps-pollsters

Shooting the messenger ...

[Banditbandit]

See for yourself how wrong they are - https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/1027204516096233473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - The Protocols of Zion (1902) in Summary. - Never happened yet? - Yeah Right! :rolleyes:

Oh you are kidding me - the Protocols of Zion were debunked many years ago ..

Circulating them, to me, suggest you've given up any claim to be intelligent ..

[Laava]

Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
The debunked study you’re referring to was based on 21 undecided voters. For context that’s about half the number of people associated with your campaign who have been indicted.
I can just see his deformed little duck lip face going "fake noos!"

[Viking01]

Get China to foreclose on the loans Denmark will get a bargain then ..

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=buyer%27s%20remorse

[oldrider]

Oh you are kidding me - the Protocols of Zion were debunked many years ago ..

Circulating them, to me, suggest you've given up any claim to be intelligent ..

The protocols of whoever - who cares - the world today has followed their path remarkably closely from the time they were first circulated - that is the point of the post! :shifty:

[husaberg]

The protocols of whoever - who cares - the world today has followed their path remarkably closely from the time they were first circulated - that is the point of the post! :shifty:

Yet You keep posting it totally unsolicited on a motorbike forum, so you clearly do care. otherwise you would stop.
Lets be frank here, The point of your post with the protocols of zion and 80% of everything else you post, is to spread racial hate.
It seems you enjoy continuing to be spread racial motivated propaganda, that has no foundation in truth.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/examples-racist-material-internet

[oldrider]

Yet You keep posting it totally unsolicited on a motorbike forum, so you clearly do care. otherwise you would stop.
Lets be frank here, The point of your post with the protocols of zion and 80% of everything else you post, is to spread racial hate.
It seems you enjoy continuing to be spread racial motivated propaganda, that has no foundation in truth.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/examples-racist-material-internet

You are totally confused - as is your right and I support you in demonstrating that right however you wish. - Doesn't mean I agree with you though. :no:

[husaberg]

You are totally confused - as is your right and I support you in demonstrating that right however you wish. - Doesn't mean I agree with you though. :no:

Whats there to be confused about? You obsessively post unsolicited racially motivated propaganda on practically a daily basis on a motorbike forum.

[oldrider]

Whats there to be confused about? You obsessively post unsolicited racially motivated propaganda on practically a daily basis on a motorbike forum.

Silly boy - this is - "Off topic" - "Rant and Rave" - Forum. - Is English not your first language? - :rolleyes:

[husaberg]

Silly boy - this is - "Off topic" - "Rant and Rave" - Forum. - Is English not your first language? - :rolleyes:

It says rant and rave, not racist rants from a bitter old racist egg.
lets see how many day's it takes for another lot of racist crap to be posted by you.
I would bet that you cant go more than a few days witout posting something about Jews or Israel.

[oldrider]

It says rant and rave not racist rants from a bitter old racist egg.
lets see how many day s it takes for another lot of racist crap to be posted by you.
I would bet that you cant go more than a few days witout posting something about Jews or Israel.

You obviously don't read it because you never comment with any accuracy on the content but you do rant and rave - and that's what the forum is all about! :killingme

[pritch]

The "Christian" preachers in the US of A are an interesting lot. They don't pay any attention to the teachings of Christ but they convince gullible idiots with their "teachings". If they actually read Revelations they would see specific warnings against themselves and others of their ilk.

If this imbecile isn't actually Q himself he's right up there with the gospel according to QAnon.

https://deadstate.org/christian-prophet-patriots-will-drag-dead-democrats-through-the-streets-if-trump-doesnt-carry-out-mass-arrests-by-january/

[Laava]

Halleluyah! Your hard earned but easily tithed dollars at work people!
Religion doing what religion does, preach hate and fear to control the masses. Fortunately, there are gettting less of the gullible masses every year...

[Grumph]

Halleluyah! Your hard earned but easily tithed dollars at work people!
Religion doing what religion does, preach hate and fear to control the masses. Fortunately, there are gettting less of the gullible masses every year...

I'm not so sure of that. The internet and improved access to it has in my opinion increased the number of options available to the gullible masses - and given rise to an increase in their numbers.
The popularity of off the wall, conspiracy loving sites proves the gullible are out there in numbers.

[oldrider]

I'm not so sure of that. The internet and improved access to it has in my opinion increased the number of options available to the gullible masses - and given rise to an increase in their numbers.
The popularity of off the wall, conspiracy loving sites proves the gullible are out there in numbers.

What makes you think that you are not one of them? - :lol:

[mashman]

What makes you think that you are not one of them? - :lol:

Q. R. Welcome. :)

[Laava]

I'm not so sure of that. The internet and improved access to it has in my opinion increased the number of options available to the gullible masses - and given rise to an increase in their numbers.
The popularity of off the wall, conspiracy loving sites proves the gullible are out there in numbers.
I was talking of religion mainly, otherwise I agree with you

[Banditbandit]

The protocols of whoever - who cares - the world today has followed their path remarkably closely from the time they were first circulated - that is the point of the post! :shifty:

Nope ...

The only thing that it does seem to follow is the wealthy Jewish people - such as the Rothschilds. This is NOT a planned action - but rather the results of history ..

Back in the Middle Ages Christians were banned from charging interest on loans

Exodus 22:25 “If you loan money to my people, to the poor among you, don’t be like a creditor to them and don’t impose interest on them.” and others ..

Within the anti-Semitic ideas of the period money lending was one of the few professions allowed to Jews. This allowed those who took up that profession to accumulate plenty of money ... this is the basis of many Jewish fortunes ... and then get nailed for it - which continues today with people such as yourself ...

[Banditbandit]

I'm not so sure of that. The internet and improved access to it has in my opinion increased the number of options available to the gullible masses - and given rise to an increase in their numbers.
The popularity of off the wall, conspiracy loving sites proves the gullible are out there in numbers.

Hmm - partly - it has also become the site of extreme contestation - bar physical confrontation .. lot's of abuse etc .. lots of shouters very few listeners

They say that if an infinite numbers of monkeys is each given a typewriter, eventually they will write the script to Hamlet ..
The internet proves this is wrong.

[husaberg]

I was talking of religion mainly, otherwise I agree with you
Conspiracy theory is a religion, as it solely relies on faith, gullibility and absence of a reasoned and logical thought process.

[oldrider]

[Quote]The Internationale
Published on 12 Jan 2019
State of California and California State are not the Same thing!
Wait a sec, Israel is officially called State Of Israel - part of US Federal Govt.That's why US is spending so much money in Israel because its STATE OF like State of New york ,State of California.

Every States is 2 States like California State & State of California.
Every Human is 2 like the Private you(Upper and Lower case name) & Public you(ALL CAPITAL upper case name created by your govt when you are born via Birth Certificate).

But you are not supposed to know that,all you need to do is drink your beer,watch TV and Shut up. [Unquote]

Dare yourself to listen to this and say "I knew that" already. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYkq202XIa8 - :corn:

[husaberg]

It says rant and rave, not racist rants from a bitter old racist egg.
lets see how many day's it takes for another lot of racist crap to be posted by you.
I would bet that you cant go more than a few days witout posting something about Jews or Israel.



State of California and California State are not the Same thing!
Wait a sec, Israel is officially called State Of Israel - part of US Federal Govt.That's why US is spending so much money in Israel because its STATE OF like State of New york ,State of California.


True to form not even a day.....................
https://www.jta.org/wp-content/uploads/1980/06/Children_with_Dr._Samuel_Green_Ku_Klux_Klan_Grand_ Dragon_July_24_1948-1.jpghttps://www.buffalorising.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Buffalo-NY-KKK-1.jpg
https://www.nate-thayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/abarr-768x1024.jpghttps://www.memri.org/sites/default/files/2019_Q2/ji1g.jpg

[oldrider]

Face it you silly arse "you" post more of that shit than I ever have - even in jest FFS! - :killingme

[pritch]

In reaction to the Danish PM's amused remarks in response to his stated desire to buy Greenland, the toddler in chief has postponed his upcoming trip to Denmark.

[Laava]

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/attachments/trump-png.166382/

I cannot claim to have seen this on twatter, I just copied the link...

[Laava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECXzFuBXkAc0Dbf.jpg

[husaberg]

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/attachments/trump-png.166382/

I cannot claim to have seen this on twatter, I just copied the link...

Maye Denmark also wants to see his tax returns to see if he can afford it.

[Viking01]

In reaction to the Danish PM's amused remarks in response to his stated desire to buy Greenland, the toddler in chief has postponed his upcoming trip to Denmark.

Oh dear. Now Don is annoyed. And now comes the sanctions and the
economic blockade.

[Grumph]

A UK political commentator has possibly hit on the real reason the Greenland purchase was floated.

Obama is scheduled to visit Denmark about 10 days after Trump. Trump fears comparison to Obama - see crowd sizes, lol - so put forward the whole Greenland thing knowing what reaction it'd get. And giving him a reason to cancel the visit...

It's just silly enough to be possible, given the idiot we're talking about.

[pritch]

Thought this was interesting.

The farmers are on their knees but many say they will still vote for Trump. Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas.

It seems the trucking industry is also feeling the pain of Trump's financial genius after most voted for him. If they want to survive they will need to be smarter than the farmers.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/truckers-donald-trump-trade-war-taxes-2019-8

[pritch]

And he's still up to his shonky financial tricks.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-scotland-golf-courses-inflating-value_n_5d5c1ccce4b05f62fbd5f559?ncid=engmodushpmg 00000004

[Viking01]

A UK political commentator has possibly hit on the real reason the Greenland purchase was floated.

Obama is scheduled to visit Denmark about 10 days after Trump. Trump fears comparison to Obama - see crowd sizes, lol - so put forward the whole Greenland thing knowing what reaction it'd get. And giving him a reason to cancel the visit...

It's just silly enough to be possible, given the idiot we're talking about.


Thanks for the heads-up.The locals may not be large in number,
but I'm sure that they can get their flippers together to give
them a warm welcome.

I see both RT and Sputnik websites making the most of it again
this morning:

https://www.rt.com/usa/467004-trump-danish-nasty-greenland/
https://sputniknews.com/us/201908221076604654-cruz-nuke-denmark-comments-resurface/

But in the scheme of things, it's not necessarily to "purchase"
Greenland.

The Danes already realise increased US presence in Greenland
in the future is likely, whether they (or the locals) want it or
not. An earlier article from the Copenhagen Post:

http://cphpost.dk/news/danish-pm-open-to-increased-us-military-presence-in-greenland.html

and with Chinese interest in Greenland minerals (plus the Polar
Silk Road leg - and climate change), this is definitely not the
last that we will hear on this topic:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-arctic/china-unveils-vision-for-polar-silk-road-across-arctic-idUSKBN1FF0J8

[Edit: A following post mentioned interceptor rockets - yes, I
forgot to mention them as well ]

So I watch this space with interest.

On a personal note:

I have always been interested in Greenland, mainly because my
father was a mining engineer and he lived / worked in southern
Greenland from 1947-1953. He hunted and fished with the local
Inuit people while there, and had lots of good stories to tell.

And why the old chap has sadly passed away, I still have a trove
of old black and white photos and other mementos from that era.

Though it might surprise, Greenland has an interesting history in
its own right. Kim Petersen did a series of 3 articles on the local
independence movement in 2007, and which also contain some
interesting snippets of history:

https://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/the-struggle-against-colonialism-and-imperialism-in-kalaallit-nunaat/
https://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/nuclear-tragedy/
https://dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/sovereignty-in-kalaallit-nunaat/

And I see that he has added a fourth article following the latest
Trump episode:

https://dissidentvoice.org/2019/08/colonialism-lives-on-in-the-mind-of-donald-trump/

[austingtir]

A UK political commentator has possibly hit on the real reason the Greenland purchase was floated.

Obama is scheduled to visit Denmark about 10 days after Trump. Trump fears comparison to Obama - see crowd sizes, lol - so put forward the whole Greenland thing knowing what reaction it'd get. And giving him a reason to cancel the visit...

It's just silly enough to be possible, given the idiot we're talking about.


The TDS in here is out of control.... Its good to be back to keep you lot under control.

As the wizard above me mentions on minerals.....
If you plonkers bothered to pay any attention at all you would see the reason for Trump wanting Greenland is because the Chinese are muscling in there VIA AUSTRALIAN MINING companies (which they have a stake in) to mine the rare minerals that place supposedly has a crap load of. Also the USA already has THULE military base in greenland which controls alot of "space force" type stuff for shuttle launches and that as it is the highest US military base on the globe. Then theres the obvious interceptors for Russian/chinese nuke attack type stuff to cover for.


Anyway some of Trumps statements are hilarious (if you dont have said TDS and can see them for the pure trolling that they are).
Trump is the president they need but dont deserve!
Here he is putting the boot into Denmarks feminist flunky pm:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/21/donald-trump-danish-pm-mette-frederiksen-nasty-over-greenland-spat/2072705001/


Surely people can see through all this "organge man bad" narrative by now surely??

[Laava]

The TDS in here is out of control.... Its good to be back to keep you lot under control.?

Lol, the site's village idiot has been let out again!
Get ready peeps for a plethora of rabid postings, facts ignored or unchecked!
Won't be long before you're blubbering back in the naughty corner again....

[austingtir]

Oh dear. Now Don is annoyed. And now comes the sanctions and the
economic blockade.

No those Viking "terrorists" have been naughty....

As they say there's more than one way to skin a cat.



Im betting by or before the end of Trump's (TWO) term's that Greenland and the danes bend the knee. (im not talking selling greenland of course but they will allow him to do whatever it is he was aiming to do in the first place which was not "buy" greenland.)

Hell he will probably get it for free.

This whole thing is straight out of "art of the deal".

[austingtir]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECXzFuBXkAc0Dbf.jpg


You realize this was posted by Trump himself on his own instagram right?

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1XXkVshvhT/

[Viking01]

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/money-can-buy-anything-so-why-not-greenland-20190820-p52ivt.html

[austingtir]

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/money-can-buy-anything-so-why-not-greenland-20190820-p52ivt.html


He doesnt even need to buy it. Just get them to vote like crimea. The majority of Greenlanders want to join the USA anyway.


LOL.

[Viking01]

He doesnt even need to buy it. Just get them to vote like crimea. The majority of Greenlanders want to join the USA anyway.


LOL.

Well, that is a possibility, but it still leaves too much to the whim
of the local population.

Personally, at the risk of being accused of being a "conspiracy
theorist", I think that the US will announce that an underground
(sub-polar?) branch of al Qaeda has just been discovered up in
Greenland.

A small "false flag" incident against US forces will then occur,
and then the US will be compelled to invade in order to restore
law and order. QED.

No messy "coalitions of the unwilling". No United Nations required.
And the cost is absolutely minimal.

Meanwhile, people will have not even noticed the disappearance
of the Jeffrey Epstein saga off the front page of their newspaper.

Let alone the revocation of the Volcker Rule.

[pritch]

So Trump looks toward the heavens and announces he's "the chosen one" and some people still don't get it.

It's hard to see how his "easy to win" trade war will have a happy ending for the US. I've got no idea how bad it's hurting China and likely neither does he. Trump has an election next year if he's allowed to run again - and not removed to the funny farm - China doesn't. If it's a matter of he who blinks first loses, Trump will likely have to blink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js4wcaPqSow&frags=pl%2Cwn

[Laava]

You realize this was posted by Trump himself on his own instagram right?

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1XXkVshvhT/
prove it......

[austingtir]

prove it......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U99A9SsKf8g

Two scoops boyo!! :bleh:

[Laava]

So Trump looks toward the heavens and announces he's "the chosen one" and some people still don't get it

Yep, the cult of personality thing. When you have that, you don't need fuck all to back it up. Just a horde of fanatical and gullible twats.



Two scoops boyo!! :bleh:
So what's your excuse?

[austingtir]

So what's your excuse?

What would I need an excuse for? Is that Trumps instagram or not? Hint: It is!

https://www.instagram.com/realdonaldtrump/

Trump's message was at the top of course instagram has move it: "I promise not to do this to Greenland"


When does it stop being funny that Trump is taking the piss out of TDS sufferers? NEVER!! LMFAO

[Laava]

What would I need an excuse for? Is that Trumps instagram or not? Hint: It is!

I'm not sure if you have realised that you just posted a 5sec youtube video of charlton heston, or you think you have a great wacky sense of humour, or you are just totally fucked in the head? Which is it?
We should start a poll.

[austingtir]

I'm not sure if you have realised that you just posted a 5sec youtube video of charlton heston, or you think you have a great wacky sense of humour, or you are just totally fucked in the head? Which is it?
We should start a poll.

Because your slow I'll let you in on a little secret:

Its to trigger you.


How come it keeps working?:innocent:

[Laava]

Good try Yokel, 2nd fail of the evening. I am going to go with two weeks this time before you toss your toys and get banned.

[austingtir]

Good try Yokel, 2nd fail of the evening. I am going to go with two weeks this time before you toss your toys and get banned.



https://media.giphy.com/media/XHeK5o8RQPuMQBpp5p/giphy.gif


https://youtu.be/6bHB2ksrdaE

[Laava]

Yep, he's the king of the jews....
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR0l_7Ih9cAfsNGfiTdtlQCmoG3Yij B41I_y4571XPTK0XCNFV7

[Laava]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcT56rqVn2ty8zLKThpQcvOahOpzHTf sQN7WiB5jMG4GPc1n27Wm

[Laava]

https://bigjolly.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/trump-hitler.jpg

[Laava]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSLaGBcxx5c7qhYgX6I6r7dnNRSiN6 Xgh67rSyYckjEEgX7lsJU

[Laava]

It is telling that he says of himself he's like the 2nd coming of god. Good insight into his appalling lack of general knowledge.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECf17GVXUAA7Zbk.jpg

[pritch]

Can you imagine the uproar if Obama had claimed to be the chosen one and the king of Israel? Or if he said that he had considered awarding himself a Medal of Honor but that he had been advised against it? Or he had called the President of Denmark nasty? Or suggested that Russia be readmitted to the G8?

Not only did Trump do these things, he did all of this, and more, in one day and the GOP considered it just another day at the office.

The president of the USA is mentally ill. We can laugh but seriously...

[GazzaH]

He's playing to the crowd. We already know there was an ample sufficiency of voters willing to vote him in.

And the media still hate him, taking every opportunity to fire potshots.

Mind you, he's an easy target.

[Honest Andy]

https://tribunecontentagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/rss.tribunecontentagency.com20190819edwas-a.tifampp-641a67712902248a33d704eaa690273d0f741c91

[austingtir]

^^Thats actually good!

You should help Laava out with his meme posting game.

ATM its not even fair one of my meme's is equal to atleast 20 of his.

[austingtir]

Can you imagine the uproar if Obama had claimed to be the chosen one and the king of Israel? Or if he said that he had considered awarding himself a Medal of Honor but that he had been advised against it? Or he had called the President of Denmark nasty? Or suggested that Russia be readmitted to the G8?

Not only did Trump do these things, he did all of this, and more, in one day and the GOP considered it just another day at the office.

The president of the USA is mentally ill. We can laugh but seriously...


Did you hear that reporter asking Trump if he was God in the flesh over and over?(im sure you never even watched the entire segment) This likely atheist anti-Christian reporter starts acting like Trump just called himself God or the Son of God. These idiot liberals don't even know the difference between a Messiah and "The Chosen One" like Neo from The Matrix.

The funny about this, that is even dumber, is Trump obviously meant he was the chosen one for the job. The chosen one to get it done by the people, as a sort of facetious and playful statement, and these idiots are so stupid they start trying to claim Trump just declared himself, in full seriousness, a deity.

These are not smart people Trump is dealing with and he is treating them accordingly...


But in all seriousness He is God Emperor. He is a God amongst men. Change my mind.

[Honest Andy]

Did you hear that reporter asking Trump if he was God in the flesh over and over?(im sure you never even watched the entire segment) This likely atheist anti-Christian reporter starts acting like Trump just called himself God or the Son of God. These idiot liberals don't even know the difference between a Messiah and "The Chosen One" like Neo from The Matrix.

The funny about this, that is even dumber, is Trump obviously meant he was the chosen one for the job. The chosen one to get it done by the people, as a sort of facetious and playful statement, and these idiots are so stupid they start trying to claim Trump just declared himself, in full seriousness, a deity.

These are not smart people Trump is dealing with and he is treating them accordingly...


But in all seriousness He is God Emperor. He is a God amongst men. Change my mind.


I would have said YOU have a God complex

except you are not complex

[oldrider]

Tucker Carlson Tonight 8/21/19

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[Laava]

Can you imagine the uproar if Obama had claimed to be the chosen one and the king of Israel? Or if he said that he had considered awarding himself a Medal of Honor but that he had been advised against it? Or he had called the President of Denmark nasty? Or suggested that Russia be readmitted to the G8?

Not only did Trump do these things, he did all of this, and more, in one day and the GOP considered it just another day at the office.

The president of the USA is mentally ill. We can laugh but seriously...
Sadly, you are right. Still, it won't matter who his opposition is next year, it can,t get any worse.

[Laava]

I would have said YOU have a God complex

except you are not complex
He is about as fucken simple as it gets while still breathing.

[austingtir]

Tucker Carlson Tonight 8/21/19

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This is like being in a time machine and looking into Aucklands future under Comrade Goff or that other lefty twerp mate of his he is running against.....

[pritch]

It’s reported that Iceland’s PM has cancelled US Vice President Pence’s visit due to ‘prior commitments’.

We await Trump’s carefully considered response. Or not?

[Laava]

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net%2Fv%2Ft1.0-9%2F67557178_495587121192697_3084842934453927936_n .jpg%3F_nc_cat%3D104%26_nc_oc%3DAQmzge8ejmsxdmbi4S xQ6a_XqvQn3LIJKhnAzybz0HZP75yhxqBAOqkpr5Gh8WCEAnA% 26_nc_ht%3Dscontent.flhr4-1.fna%26oh%3D4c5b44a2bc96b7668e0398e6cb70e6dd%26oe %3D5DDB21F5&hash=7c9a1d44842b61d6e77c53b8c1033621
This should keep Yokel busy for a few hours/days!

[Laava]

It’s reported that Denmark’s PM has cancelled US Vice President Pence’s visit due to ‘prior commitments’.

We await Trump’s carefully considered response. Or not?
Haha, gold! But considered and response never go together when it comes to the POOTUS.

[austingtir]

It’s reported that Denmark’s PM has cancelled US Vice President Pence’s visit due to ‘prior commitments’.

We await Trump’s carefully considered response. Or not?


They are just pissed at Trump like the British for busting all the pedos...


I think Iceland is what they should invade. That pussy is top notch they could grab it all.

[Laava]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSJytWLBF-M0wsQW-kqmvCi_9mXHIEqypaYCxwyTzZAVM5cYYnO

[Laava]

http://nzh.tw/12261111
A very well worded rundown of what has happened with the Denmark visit how it was handled so badly.

[pete376403]

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/denmark-offers-to-buy-us

[austingtir]

https://i.redd.it/n9vn6clnq1i31.jpg

[oldrider]

Trump: I am the King of Israel? - MAGA? - :scratch:

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[pritch]

Irrelevant I know, but by way of lightening the mood. Restoring sanity would be too much to ask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykJ7pyr87Qc&frags=pl%2Cwn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltNKiBbGgVU&frags=pl%2Cwn

Y'all can draw your own conclusions about the second one. This being KB there is a snowball's chance we'd all agree.

According to US comments the law there is similar to here: the property owner maintains the berm but the local council owns it. It's not 'his' lawn.

Oh, and the truck on the lawn was nothing to do with the concrete workers, it was a guy visiting his mother across the street, he'd parked it there to let traffic past the road works.

[Viking01]

It’s reported that Iceland’s PM has cancelled US Vice President Pence’s visit due to ‘prior commitments’.

We await Trump’s carefully considered response. Or not?

Some people just don't know when to stop. Once might be considered
an honest mistake; twice is starting to look like stupidity.

https://www.rt.com/news/467041-iceland-pence-visit-meeting/

In our household, when there is mention about "standing to attention
for the Queen", the first question is always "which Queen?". The Danish
Queen or the Dutch Queen ? But that's a separate matter kept inside
the "family".

But it is "understood" that no-one dis-respects the Danish Queen !

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=12261111&ref=twitter

Have they never wondered how we fill those holes from which ice cores
have been drilled ?

You can be sure that Don will not turn up to visit Denmark in the near
future. Take it from me.

Not only is the word "apology" not in his lexicon, but more importantly,
when it came to conferring an honour on "His Godliness" and he has to
kneel before the Queen, Margrethe would definitely be swinging the
broadsword.

And then they can all take his head out on the front lawn to use in a
game of soccer (just like in the old days). Respect.

[husaberg]

Trump: I am the King of Israel? - MAGA? - :scratch:


Again with the Jews aye, anyone would think you are obsessed or a racist or something.
Or do you think its normal to post endless day after day about a innocent race of people in a derogatory manner.

[oldrider]

Trump: I am the King of Israel? - MAGA? - :scratch:

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Again with the Jews aye, anyone would think you are obsessed or a racist or something.
Or do you think its normal to post endless day after day about a innocent race of people in a derogatory manner.

:scratch: Err, I think if you really look my post was about Trump! - But then you never do look - you just accuse and rave on relentlessly! - :weird:

Carry on as you wish it is after-all a forum to Rant or Rave in so I guess you are at least "on topic". - :rolleyes:

More on same: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-22/msm-levels-bizarre-anti-semitism-charge-trump-while-conveniently-ignoring-us-middle

[husaberg]

:scratch: Err, I think if you really look my post was about Trump! - But then you never do look - you just accuse and rave on relentlessly! - :weird:

Carry on as you wish it is after-all a forum to Rant or Rave in so I guess you are at least "on topic". - :rolleyes:

More on same: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-22/msm-levels-bizarre-anti-semitism-charge-trump-while-conveniently-ignoring-us-middle

Yeah you just post stuff about Jews all day and every day as a its a coincidence. Everyone else is the problem not wjhat you post day after day.
That must be the same with the Mein kamph and the protocols of Zion and all the posts you do going on in glowing terms about how great Hitler was that appear with your log in.

[oldrider]

Trump Should Free Greenland Plagued by Pedophiles and Poverty? - :Oops: - https://leozagami.com/2019/08/22/trump-should-free-greenland-plagued-by-pedophiles-and-poverty/ - Didn't see that coming! :confused:

[Kickaha]

[R RATED][/R RATED]
Trump Should Free Greenland Plagued by Pedophiles and Poverty? - :Oops: - https://leozagami.com/2019/08/22/trump-should-free-greenland-plagued-by-pedophiles-and-poverty/ - Didn't see that coming! :confused:

That has to be a satire site, no one could possibly be fucking stupid enough to take that seriously

[oldrider]

[R RATED][/R RATED]

That has to be a satire site, no one could possibly be fucking stupid enough to take that seriously

Like the little Pacific Island near us - nobody took that seriously either but time reveals all eventually - if there is anything to reveal that is? :wait:

[austingtir]

[R RATED][/R RATED]

That has to be a satire site, no one could possibly be fucking stupid enough to take that seriously

What makes you say that?

Theres plenty of evidence the danes and greenland is plagued by pedophiles. Just the same as the brits are. Its a european thing so they say....

[Laava]

That has to be a satire site, no one could possibly be fucking stupid enough to take that seriously

ordinarily I would agree with you but...


What makes you say that?

Theres plenty of evidence the danes and greenland is plagued by pedophiles. Just the same as the brits are. Its a european thing so they say....

Oh, fucking LOL!

[austingtir]

ordinarily I would agree with you but...



Oh, fucking LOL!


You should go back to doing stuff your actually good at like burning rubbish bins.


I see your mates ANTIFA in the states are doing their damndest to get themselves labelled as domestic terrorists. And it cant come soon enough imo.

These people are pure scum and heres the proof: Always walking up on people from behind with their stupid masks on this one even looks to be attempted to shank someone!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7RlN6j9s7Q

This guy Brandon is this like this veterans guardian angel in that clip. Dude would of been stabbed 100% without that guy there watching his six.

[Laava]

^^ You're no Oscar Wilde, that is for sure. If you want a good comeback, you should scrape it off your mommas back.

[pritch]

If having multiple billboards telling blokes not to fuck their daughter is an indication of a problem, it may not be Greenland that needs to worry. These from the good ol' US of A.

"Getting drunk is never an excuse. She's your daughter not your date."

[husaberg]

If having multiple billboards telling blokes not to fuck their daughter is an indication of a problem, it may not be Greenland that needs to worry. These from the good ol' US of A.

"Getting drunk is never an excuse. She's your daughter not your date."

Trump has never hid his "special feeling for his daughter
https://www.elitedaily.com/p/9-donald-trump-quotes-about-ivanka-that-are-super-uncomfortable-8646720
Including this alleged event

Columist Richard Cohen claimed 6 that Donald Trump once asked him, “Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?"

[Viking01]

Thank Thor. Something to change the news away from all that Trump
business focusing on Denmark and Greenland. We Scandinavians don't
like all that direct attention. Especially from Donald.

https://www.rt.com/business/467167-dow-drops-china-trump/

Now that "normal service" has been resumed, they can get some peace
and quiet back in the homeland.

So, Don, how is this new proclamation of yours going to work ? The Dow
certainly responded.

[Edit]

That was quick. Announced by Don after US markets had closed:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3024186/trump-raises-tariffs-us250-billion-chinese-imports-30-cent-25

[Laava]

Yep, it is kinda funny how deeply retarded this cunt really is. The fallout from his presidency will take years or possibly decades to recover from. Meanwhile USA No1 keeps sliding further south...

https://www.rt.com/business/467169-trump-china-tariffs-hike/

[austingtir]

Yep, it is kinda funny how deeply retarded this cunt really is. The fallout from his presidency will take years or possibly decades to recover from. Meanwhile USA No1 keeps sliding further south...

https://www.rt.com/business/467169-trump-china-tariffs-hike/


You dont even have the most basic understanding of what Trump is doing. He's going to have the Chinese fighting amongst themselves before his term is out. Think Tiananmen square on steroids... Its already started in Hong Kong. He's just waiting on the Chinese to take the bait and go into HK and wreak havoc then all the other "students" (CIA instigated) around china will start acting up. It wont be isolated to just bejing so Xi is going to have his hands full just staying in power.

China will be destroyed economically and Xi will be swept from power. Chinas one party system GONE.

The US has over 120 military bases surrounding china. There aint shit they can do about it.


4d chess boyo.

I buy stuff out of china and I can already see them massively discounting all sorts of machinery and equipment I buy. They are going to start feeling it real bad over the next year or two.

[Laava]

Oh, sorry Yokel, I was referring to reality, not your CT entrenched imagination.
Feel free to think what you like. Be nice if you could keep it to yourself tho, there's a good boy!

[husaberg]

Yep, it is kinda funny how deeply retarded this cunt really is. The fallout from his presidency will take years or possibly decades to recover from. Meanwhile USA No1 keeps sliding further south...

https://www.rt.com/business/467169-trump-china-tariffs-hike/

I wonder how many years it will take trump to understand that the tariffs on imported Chinese good are paid by the people that import the goods not that sell or produce them in China.
So all this tariff money i coming out of American pockets same as the money he is using to pay the subsidies for the farmers who now cant sell their soya beans to china

[Laava]

Should we send Yokel over there to enlighten them? He certainly knows more than all the financial experts in the media!

[austingtir]

I wonder how many years it will take trump to understand that the tariffs on imported Chinese good are paid by the people that import the goods not that sell or produce them in China.
So all this tariff money i coming out of American pockets same as the money he is using to pay the subsidies for the farmers who now cant sell their soya beans to china


Thats irrelevant if you go back to making your own stuff.

The soy bean thing is the same as our dairy farmers being slowly fucked over by Jacinda and the greens.... yet I dont see jacinda offering the dairy people any relief.... Is that a communist trait?


Must be interesting to see everything through $hit covered lenses.

[husaberg]

Thats irrelevant if you go back to making your own stuff.

The soy bean thing is the same as our dairy farmers being slowly fucked over by Jacinda and the greens.... yet I dont see jacinda offering the dairy people any relief....


Must be interesting to see everything through $hit covered lenses.
No its not NZ has no subsidies or trafifs in regards to Ag production we got rid of the 30 years ago.
NZ dairy framers dont feed soya beans its not a crop nz grows needs or imports
If you knew anything about farming in NZ you would know we don't need soya protein for dairy production as pasture has ample crude protein, we need metabolism energy.
The Chinese are not hurting, Americas bleeding money.
You dont know buggar all about anything and you tend to talk through a orifice in your anus.
Its time you moved to america if you think its so great Yokel. No one will miss you at all Scott

[pritch]

You dont even have the most basic understanding of what Trump is doing. He's going to have the Chinese fighting amongst themselves before his term is out. Think Tiananmen square on steroids... Its already started in Hong Kong. He's just waiting on the Chinese to take the bait and go into HK and wreak havoc then all the other "students" (CIA instigated) around china will start acting up. It wont be isolated to just bejing so Xi is going to have his hands full just staying in power.

China will be destroyed economically and Xi will be swept from power. Chinas one party system GONE.

The US has over 120 military bases surrounding china. There aint shit they can do about it.

4d chess boyo.




What a load of delusional bollocks. Almost everything in the Mango Musselini's "easy to win" trade war is in favour of China. The US has lost markets, even if Trump surrendered tomorrow the markets won't come back in time to halp the farmers, the truckers or the railroads who are going broke.

Hong Kong has got nothing to do with Trump. I'm sure all those CIA spies in China will be thrilled you just outed them. Just as well they only live in your fevered imagination.

4D chess? What a laugh, that idiot couldn't manage a game of checkers. Multiple cabinet members have labelled him a moron or a fucking moron and they were successful people who knew him. All of which is absolutely unprecedented which should be a hint.

The toddler in chief's trade war will probably be decided by who blinks first. Trump (or another Republican) has an election next year, the Chinese Premier has no such problem.

I have no idea which imaginary 120 US bases you refer to. They sure as shit aren't on the Spratleys where the Chinese are ignoring international law and there's sfa the Yanks can do about it.

In an earlier post you mentioned Trump joking or trolling. Seriously, he is too stupid to do those things. A sense of humour takes an intelligence higher than that with which he was "blessed". He utters outrageous statements from time to time and later claims it was a joke. The reality is that he's testing the reaction. Twice that I'm aware of he has mentioned a third of fourth term neither of which is possible under the constitution. Although the US Constitution is a total mystery to Trump. He has also suggested he may not permit the 2020 election to go ahead. He's not joking. It's also considered possible that if he loses 2020 he won't leave the White House, he'll claim the vote was rigged. Again!

He is affected by multiple personality disorders, many professionals believe his has NPD, and I'm convinced. His cogntive function is deteriorating. There are times he has no idea where he is or why he is there. He is living in a fantasy world. He should be removed under the 25th amendment but I won't hold my breath.

Don't stop taking your meds.

[austingtir]

No its not NZ has no subsidies or trafifs in egards to Ag.
NZ dairy framers dont feed soya beans its not a crop nz grows needs or imports
If you knew anything about farming in NZ you would know we don't need soya protein for dairy production as pasture as ample, we need metabolism energy.
The Chinese are not hurting Americas bleeding money.
You dont know buggar all about anything and you tend to talk through a orifice in your anus.
Its time you moved to america if you think its so great Yokel. No one will miss you Scott


HAHAHA LOL

Im not even going to bother replying to much of this its just pure snowflakery and rubbish.

Who other than husaberg would of assumed I was implying NZ feeds our cows soya beans and needs to import them... Just LMFAO.

[austingtir]

What a load of delusional bollocks. Almost everything in the Mango Musselini's "easy to win" trade war is in favour of China. The US has lost markets, even if Trump surrendered tomorrow the markets won't come back in time to halp the farmers, the truckers or the railroads who are going broke.

Hong Kong has got nothing to do with Trump. I'm sure all those CIA spies in China will be thrilled you just outed them. Just as well they only live in your fevered imagination.

4D chess? What a laugh, that idiot couldn't manage a game of checkers. Multiple cabinet members have labelled him a moron or a fucking moron and they were successful people who knew him. All of which is absolutely unprecedented which should be a hint.

The toddler in chief's trade war will probably be decided by who blinks first. Trump (or another Republican) has an election next year, the Chinese Premier has no such problem.

I have no idea which imaginary 120 US bases you refer to. They sure as shit aren't on the Spratleys where the Chinese are ignoring international law and there's sfa the Yanks can do about it.

In an earlier post you mentioned Trump joking or trolling. Seriously, he is too stupid to do those things. A sense of humour takes an intelligence higher than that with which he was "blessed". He utters outrageous statements from time to time and later claims it was a joke. The reality is that he's testing the reaction. Twice that I'm aware of he has mentioned a third of fourth term neither of which is possible under the constitution. Although the US Constitution is a total mystery to Trump. He has also suggested he may not permit the 2020 election to go ahead. He's not joking. It's also considered possible that if he loses 2020 he won't leave the White House, he'll claim the vote was rigged. Again!

He is affected by multiple personality disorders, many professionals believe his has NPD, and I'm convinced. His cogntive function is deteriorating. There are times he has no idea where he is or why he is there. He is living in a fantasy world. He should be removed under the 25th amendment but I won't hold my breath.

Don't stop taking your meds.


The USA doesnt need ANY markets outside of its own.

See I dont need to write an essay of pure TDS garbage to say what I mean.

As for the 120 bases. go around every country surrounding China and see if they have a US military base. And then add the countries behind those. China and Russia are totally surrounded by US military bases. END OF STORY.

China and Russia know damn well they cant beat the USA in a military confrontation or they would of already done it.

And they cant beat them in an economic war either even if MSM watching TDS fanatics like yourself WRONGLY claim otherwise.

[husaberg]

The USA doesnt need ANY markets outside of its own.

See I dont need to write an essay of pure TDS garbage to say what I mean.

Youre so funny
The U.S.-China trade tensions have caused wild swings in the trade deficit, with exporters and importers trying to stay ahead of the tariff fight between the two economic giants.

In May, goods imports increased 4.0% to $217.0 billion. Imports of consumer goods rose $1.4 billion, while those of motor vehicle and parts soared $2.3 billion to a record high. There were also big increases in imports of capital goods and industrial supplies and materials.

Goods exports rose 2.8% to $140.8 billion. Exports of consumer goods increased $0.8 billion and soybean exports advanced $0.7 billion. Civilian aircraft exports rose $0.5 billion. Gains are, however, likely to be capped after Boeing in March suspended deliveries of its fastest-selling MAX 737 jetliner. The aircraft was grounded indefinitely following two deadly crashes in five months. Production of the troubled plane has been cut.


When adjusted for inflation, the goods trade deficit increased $4.8 billion to $87.0 billion in May. The increase in the so-called real goods trade deficit suggests that trade could be a drag on second-quarter gross domestic product.
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[austingtir]

Youre so funny
The U.S.-China trade tensions have caused wild swings in the trade deficit, with exporters and importers trying to stay ahead of the tariff fight between the two economic giants.

In May, goods imports increased 4.0% to $217.0 billion. Imports of consumer goods rose $1.4 billion, while those of motor vehicle and parts soared $2.3 billion to a record high. There were also big increases in imports of capital goods and industrial supplies and materials.

Goods exports rose 2.8% to $140.8 billion. Exports of consumer goods increased $0.8 billion and soybean exports advanced $0.7 billion. Civilian aircraft exports rose $0.5 billion. Gains are, however, likely to be capped after Boeing in March suspended deliveries of its fastest-selling MAX 737 jetliner. The aircraft was grounded indefinitely following two deadly crashes in five months. Production of the troubled plane has been cut.

When adjusted for inflation, the goods trade deficit increased $4.8 billion to $87.0 billion in May. The increase in the so-called real goods trade deficit suggests that trade could be a drag on second-quarter gross domestic product.


So all is fine and dandy in the good old US of A then.

Call me when their economy collapses.

[Laava]

So all is fine and dandy in the good old US of A then.

Call me when their economy collapses.
Oh no, they're sweet now bro. One nation, under god.*snigger*

[austingtir]

Oh no, they're sweet now bro. One nation, under god.*snigger*

He's a reeeal staable geeeniiiuuus!!! :laugh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9w7aJRuZGE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_Dlry4Rtm4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCNTOsb0WhM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks679p8AaOM

[austingtir]

....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bP5DZZ2Jzc



The Joe Biden one......LMAO

[pritch]

So all is fine and dandy in the good old US of A then.

Call me when their economy collapses.

You seem to be able to use Google, check out ‘inverse yield curve’. The stable genius has just presided over one, and almost every time that occurs it’s followed by a recession. It’s an indication an economy is seriously out of whack

Somebody must have explained the situation to Trump because he’s losing it.

I feel sorry for the other G7 leaders.

[Voltaire]

You seem to be able to use Google, check out ‘inverse yield curve’. The stable genius has just presided over one, and almost every time that occurs it’s followed by a recession. It’s an indication an economy is seriously out of whack

Somebody must have explained the situation to Trump because he’s losing it.

I feel sorry for the other G7 leaders.

You need to explain it in simple terms for /\

If you put money into an interest bearing account you get more interest the longer term you agree to.

If its the other way around tends to suggest that long term confidence is declining, as you would probably expect after a 10 year run ( of

which very little had to do with the last 3 years)

I do like the line " Economic expansions don't die of old age" but hey even a broken clock is right twice a day.

The NZX has gone a bit mad since the OCR dropped, interesting times.

I work for a US company , will be busy on Monday pulling out of China :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Hang on an enjoy the ride which comes with a free muppet show to distract.

[oldrider]

I work for a US company , will be busy on Monday pulling out of China! - Xi Jinping interruptus? - :rolleyes:

[Laava]

He's a reeeal staable geeeniiiuuus!!! :laugh:

Your infatuation is kinda creepy dude! I bet you have a shrine to him in your house that you pray to.

[Laava]

So China stands to lose, Mc Donalds, Burger King, KFC, etc, along with all the auto manufacturers and Harley Davidson? Gonna hurt american companies massively having to just pull out because of the knee jerk emotional reaction of one person!
Seems like a big win to China to me?
but reality will kick in, this won't happen and Trunt will have to backtrack a bit like he has every other time. He will probably even find a scapegoat to fire publically.

[Laava]

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwingsoverscotland.co m%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F08%2Fimg397.jpg&hash=9854d9d4c3f0433f56f9d575d37a1638

[pritch]

I work for a US company , will be busy on Monday pulling out of China :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:


It's a crying shame Trump's father didn't pull out. :whistle:

[austingtir]

Pritch and Laava couldn't sell their soy beans thus we must let China take over the world.


The state of politics on KB R&R in 2019.....

[Voltaire]

saw somewhere that only 10% of soy beans are for Human Consumption so gonna be a lot of hungry protein out there.:laugh:

[pritch]

Pritch and Laava couldn't sell their soy beans thus we must let China take over the world.


The state of politics on KB R&R in 2019.....

Dunno why I read this crap. Well, normally I don't.

China owns a major share of US overseas debt, Trump's ignorant blundering about could mean major problems for the US economy.

Russia has a sequence of events they employ to gain influence in a country. In the early stages we see the sort of things that happened during the US election with the Internet, the manipulation and the disinformation. There were multiple Russian agents in play too, but the big move is economic influence.

A Russian oligarch who was supposed to be sanctioned is setting up an aluminium factory in Moscow Mitch's Kentucky. Approaches have already been made to eight other state governors to set up Russian owned factories in their states. You don't need to be too clever to see how this can be used to influence the way that people vote. Trump will have presumably been warned about this but currently it would appear to favour him so...

[husaberg]

saw somewhere that only 10% of soy beans are for Human Consumption so gonna be a lot of hungry protein out there.:laugh:

Yip and its the US second largest export in Dollars.
the thing is though US soya beansis its replaceable with from countries or other feeds as its simply a commodity feed source.
The fact they have an over supply now the US Soy Beans is not going to china means the price is going down as there is a lack of demand so its a lose, lose and trump has to pay out the farmers a susisdy wjhich makes it a lose lose lose for the US.

Traditionally The U.S. exports about 30% of its soy harvest and half get sold to China. At the start of the year, only 3% of last year’s exports to China had been sold to the Chinese.
U.S. soybean exports to China totally collapsed last year. Brazil benefited. Here's one example: in December, China imported a record 2.4 million tons of Brazil soybeans. They usually purchase from the U.S. at that time, as the soybean harvest would be only a month old. Brazil's soy exports rose 22.5% last year, though that does not look like enough to have made up for the reduction in U.S. purchases.

China is out of the American soy market not because of tariffs, per se. China is out of the market because, in its trade war, it wants to make the farm belt collateral damage. The Chinese are also aware that the American heartland tends to vote Republican.

Soybean futures have fallen to compensate for tariffs, and record supply in the U.S. and Brazil



"With depressed prices and unsold stocks forecast to double before the 2019 harvest begins in September, we need the China market reopened to U.S. soybean exports within weeks, not months or longer,


China is also putting pressure on prices by adding to soybean supplies. They are the fourth largest producer, though still a tiny one producing just 16 million metric tons per year. At least 90% goes for soy food production as opposed to oils, which it imports mainly from Argentina. China’s goal is to increase soybean production to 24 million tons in five years, potentially reducing demand for imports, says the U.S. Soybean Export Council.

[austingtir]

LOL I just cant even. ^^ These two are more worried about their soy supplies than legit communists taking over the world.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Voltaire]

OMG your right, forget soy beans all hands to the keyboards to save the world from Communists.

[austingtir]

OMG your right, forget soy beans all hands to the keyboards to save the world from Communists.


Ok then seeing as your soy latte's are obviously going to be effected and this is a big deal for you we shall continue to debate the whole US farmer soy debacle.

Wont the "smart" farmers just diversify into other produce?

My grandfather managed to go from just sheep to sheep/dairy/peas/ in 90's when sheep farming became practically a waste of time due to the price of wool and lamb.

Only the farmers that dont have any foresight and are unable to adapt will have major problems with what is going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DeDdvkPrhA

Farming has worked in cycles like this from boom to bust for a very long time. Any old timer farmers know this and know how to adapt to the times.


IMO Jacinda and Greens intentions with the NZ dairy industry are a far bigger deal (and more evil in intent to us here in NZ) than the necessary re-balance that Trump is trying to achieve. Sure what Trump is doing will effect things over the short term a great deal. The big picture is not having a Chinese superpower dictating to everyone around the world what they can do and say because left unchecked thats where it was headed.


What has been done to the US over the last 40-50 years by their own government and politicians is downright criminal/treason! And is the single reason they have such huge problems right now.

[Viking01]

.....

What has been done to the US over the last 40-50 years by their own government and politicians is downright criminal/treason! And is the single reason they have such huge problems right now.

But , but, but .....you just said before that it was all due to the Communists.

[austingtir]

But , but, but .....you just said before that it was all due to the Communists.

Thats just what you assumed.

As Trump himself said previous admins have let the chinese get away with murder of the US economy by stealing intellectual properly and even outright spying to gain weapons tech. Previous admins just basically let them do it. As Trump said thats not the chinese fault if they are basically getting gifted this stuff for nothing. But he's going to stop it.

It wasnt just the chinese either. The awans pakistani spy thing in congress had access to half the dems blackberries. All kinds of ridiculousness has been going on and its Treasonous because some of these congressmen and woman have been knowingly letting them do it.

[husaberg]

Thats just what you assumed.

As Trump himself said previous admins have let the chinese get away with murder of the US economy by stealing intellectual properly and even outright spying to gain weapons tech. Previous admins just basically let them do it. As Trump said thats not the chinese fault if they are basically getting gifted this stuff for nothing. But he's going to stop it.

It wasnt just the chinese either. The awans pakistani spy thing in congress had access to half the dems blackberries. All kinds of ridiculousness has been going on and its Treasonous because some of these congressmen and woman have been knowingly letting them do it.

No one needs to worry about Trump having anything intellectual stolen from him.



Ok then seeing as your soy latte's are obviously going to be effected and this is a big deal for you we shall continue to debate the whole US farmer soy debacle.

Wont the "smart" farmers just diversify into other produce?

My grandfather managed to go from just sheep to sheep/dairy/peas/ in 90's when sheep farming became practically a waste of time due to the price of wool and lamb.

Only the farmers that dont have any foresight and are unable to adapt will have major problems with what is going on.

.
the problem isnt the economics of the farming system its the stupidly of their elected president starting a trade war when he docent understand or care about the repercussions of it.
The quickest and easiest fix is to vote him out.
The crops have been planted and the problem is what to do with them now they are an important part of the crop rotation as they are legume.
I can see Trumps oli company mates thinking that 35% of the worlds supply of soya beans should be turned into biofuel either

[austingtir]

^^

This is the state of your leading candidate boyo: Sleepy, creepy joe doesnt even know which state he's in.

He cant even tell he's in New hampshire..... If Trump did this the shills in the media would of been going apeshit right in front of him.....

https://youtu.be/-1jqVXAbq2Y

[Voltaire]

Ok then seeing as your soy latte's are obviously going to be effected and this is a big deal for you we shall continue to debate the whole US farmer soy debacle.

Wont the "smart" farmers just diversify into other produce?

My grandfather managed to go from just sheep to sheep/dairy/peas/ in 90's when sheep farming became practically a waste of time due to the price of wool and lamb.

Only the farmers that dont have any foresight and are unable to adapt will have major problems with what is going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DeDdvkPrhA

Farming has worked in cycles like this from boom to bust for a very long time. Any old timer farmers know this and know how to adapt to the times.


IMO Jacinda and Greens intentions with the NZ dairy industry are a far bigger deal (and more evil in intent to us here in NZ) than the necessary re-balance that Trump is trying to achieve. Sure what Trump is doing will effect things over the short term a great deal. The big picture is not having a Chinese superpower dictating to everyone around the world what they can do and say because left unchecked thats where it was headed.


What has been done to the US over the last 40-50 years by their own government and politicians is downright criminal/treason! And is the single reason they have such huge problems right now.

I tried a soy latte the other day, could not finish it, find the flat white too milky really would be quite happy to have less cows. Go the US Farmers.

[austingtir]

I tried a soy latte the other day, could not finish it, find the flat white too milky really would be quite happy to have less cows. Go the US Farmers.

Its alright. Husaberg, viking01, laava and pritch will all single handedly keep all the US soy farmers going......:rolleyes:

[husaberg]

https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/dbTaFmiivA6WAQeFPP9fvrBwxmY=/768x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/trump-fourth-grade-level-57e602863df78c690f3517ee.jpg
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[Laava]

LOL I just cant even. ^^ These two are more worried about their soy supplies than legit communists taking over the world.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Hey numbnuts, I'll let you in on a little secret. It's a secret that apparently only you are unaware of!
it's not about soy beans. It's not about communists taking over the world. It's about money. It always has been. And your dreamboat world leader, and potential deity, is amongst the worst of them. In simple terms, so you can at least attempt to get the gist of it, it is about the Trumpster wanting a bigger slice than China, and North Korea and everyone else. He wants the best deal possible from everyone else without acknowledging that he has to compromise. And if eveyone else gets a shitty deal, then he will feel that he has won.
Someone is going to miss out as a result, unfortunately, it will be the USA in the longrun.

[Laava]

^^

This is the state of your leading candidate boyo: Sleepy, creepy joe doesnt even know which state he's in.

He cant even tell he's in New hampshire..... If Trump did this the shills in the media would of been going apeshit right in front of him.....
]

Here you are again making the assumption that anyone opposed to Trump must then be pro the opposing polly. Are you really that small minded?
And as for the media going apeshit over Trumps numerous blunders, that's because he's really just an arsehole. Always has been and always will be.

[onearmedbandit]

Thats just what you assumed.

As Trump himself said previous admins have let the chinese get away with murder of the US economy by stealing intellectual properly and even outright spying to gain weapons tech. Previous admins just basically let them do it. As Trump said thats not the chinese fault if they are basically getting gifted this stuff for nothing. But he's going to stop it.

It wasnt just the chinese either. The awans pakistani spy thing in congress had access to half the dems blackberries. All kinds of ridiculousness has been going on and its Treasonous because some of these congressmen and woman have been knowingly letting them do it.


No one needs to worry about Trump having anything intellectual stolen from him.



But do you disagree with what austingtir is saying?

[oldrider]

But , but, but .....you just said before that it was all due to the Communists.

A Communist by any other name? - :scratch: ------------- is still but a "Communist"! - :msn-wink:

[austingtir]

Hey numbnuts, I'll let you in on a little secret. It's a secret that apparently only you are unaware of!
it's not about soy beans. It's not about communists taking over the world. It's about money. It always has been. And your dreamboat world leader, and potential deity, is amongst the worst of them. In simple terms, so you can at least attempt to get the gist of it, it is about the Trumpster wanting a bigger slice than China, and North Korea and everyone else. He wants the best deal possible from everyone else without acknowledging that he has to compromise. And if eveyone else gets a shitty deal, then he will feel that he has won.
Someone is going to miss out as a result, unfortunately, it will be the USA in the longrun.


Again you dont understand the entirety of the situation and it shows glaringly in your posts.

It actually is about taking over the world to china. Like thats the whole entire point to them.

Trump has shown many many times he can compromise. The thing is, is he's the one with the leverage in this instance and you can bet he's going to use it. No other president even had close to the balls to pull off what Trump is trying to do.

IMO people like you in the west are either nutters, just dumb or outright begging to be under communist rule there is no other explanation for your position. If Trump fails in what he is doing we are all fucked. Not just the USA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxN12jzHrqI

[husaberg]

But do you disagree with what austingtir is saying?

What he wrote was nothing to do with what i said.............
Nor was it anything to do with the reasons Trump stated until recently either as it escalated out of control.
Trump started a war he he simply can't win. Hes too stupid and arrogant to negotiate his way out if it either as he doesn't understand for a business deal to work it has to be win win for both sides, which requires both trust and compromise.
Hes also managed to alienate all the rest of his biggest trade partners. SO he should expect any support any time soon.

[austingtir]

What he wrote was nothing to do with what i said.............
Nor was it anything to do with the reasons Trump stated.
Trump started a war he he simply can't win.


Posted after I posted a video that explains in detail exactly why he CAN win the trade war.

[Laava]

Again you dont understand the entirety of the situation and it shows glaringly in your posts.

It actually is about taking over the world to china. Like thats the whole entire point to them.

Trump has shown many many times he can compromise. The thing is, is he's the one with the leverage in this instance and you can bet he's going to use it. No other president even had close to the balls to pull off what Trump is trying to do.

IMO people like you in the west are either nutters, just dumb or outright begging to be under communist rule there is no other explanation for your position. If Trump fails in what he is doing we are all fucked. Not just the USA.

Do you get fed all this bullshit at church or something. Can't imagine how else you've become so brainwashed.

[oldrider]

New Money: The Greatest Wealth Creation Event in History (2019) - Full Documentary. (for those who may ((or may not?)) be interested) - :corn:

This is really a documentary about "progress in China" - as opposed to the crap that the MSM feeds us with!

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[Banditbandit]

^^

This is the state of your leading candidate boyo:


Hey little willie - I'll let you in on a secret - we live in New Zealand - he is not "our" candidate ..

[austingtir]

Hey little willie - I'll let you in on a secret - we live in New Zealand - he is not "our" candidate ..

Pitch lives in the USA (or claims to) and Laava and Husaberk are probably the same chinese bot. Like you they cant pull an original insult out of their ass.

Given that every US president since the end of the second world war has basically been the leader of the western world your opinion is invalid.

[Katman]

Pitch lives in the USA

I'm sure that will be news to him.

[Banditbandit]

Pitch lives in the USA and Laava and Husaberk are probably the same chinese bot.

Given that every US president since the end of the second world war has basically been the leader of the western world your opinion is invalid.

"The leader of the western world" ??????


Hahahaha ...

Oh hang on - I get it .... little willie, you need a demi-god who is a big dick to make up for your own inadequacies ...

I'll let you into another secret - Stormy Daniels called him "two minute Trump" and said "It was the most annoying sex I ever had .. "

[austingtir]

"The leader of the western world" ??????


Hahahaha ...

Oh hang on - I get it .... little willie, you need a demi-god who is a big dick to make up for your own inadequacies ...

I'll let you into another secret - Stormy Daniels called him "two minute Trump" and said "It was the most annoying sex I ever had .. "


Oh yeah is that why Stormy had to go on a pan american cock snuffling spree to pay back the Trumps lawyers as the judge ordered because her case didnt hold upto even the slightest scrutiny?

[Banditbandit]

Oh yeah is that why Stormy had to go on a pan american cock snuffling spree to pay back the Trumps lawyers as the judge ordered because her case didnt hold upto even the slightest scrutiny?

You're away in dreamland little willie - watch out for repetition sprains in your wrists ...

[austingtir]

I'm sure that will be news to him.


Yeah I never believed a word of anything the guy says its all projection about his hate of Trump just like these other clowns on here.

[jasonu]

I'm sure that will be news to him.


Yeah I never believed a word of anything the guy says its all projection about his hate of Trump just like these other clowns on here.

and yet he is a total fucking expert on the subject.

[austingtir]

Farrage calling the EU and in particular Merkel out for the bunch of scumbags they are and rightly pointing out how they are creating a militarized EU and creeping to the east.

These are the people looking for war. History repeats with Germany at the helm. Is the USA going to have to give these clowns a second serving and will the UK come to their senses in time and help?


https://www.facebook.com/nigelfarageofficial/videos/446480095880198/

[Laava]

Hey Yokel, yer president gonna nuke him some hurricanes! Yeehaa!
https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/attachments/secret-jpg.166922/

[austingtir]

Hey Yokel, yer president gonna nuke him some hurricanes! Yeehaa!





Only people of Husaberg's and your ilk would believe that.

You realize this idea was floated back in the 50's or something right? Like they actually did think about it.

[Laava]

Well he certainly is dumb enough to say it!

[husaberg]

In late night tweets last week, Trump warned tariffs would start at five per cent on June 10 and increase to 25 per cent on October 1 unless Mexico stops immigrants from entering the US illegally.
A dozen of the world's largest automakers - including Ford, Toyota and Volkswagen - lost about US$18 billion in market value the day following Trump's tweets.

President Donald Trump has also asked Japanese automakers to consider making vehicles in the US, apparently unaware they've been doing that for decades.
"Try building your cars in the United States instead of shipping them over. That's not too much to ask,"
Only issue is The Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association estimates that its members built nearly 4 million vehicles in the US last year. Exports from Japan to the US have fallen from 3.5 million cars a year in 1986 to just over 1.5 million in 2016.

Despite that presence, the US still runs a trade deficit with Japan of about US$69 billion. That’s Because Ford, General Motors and Fiat Chrysler sell very few vehicles in Japan.
Some of his other Car maker gaffs his other gaffs include blasting General Motors Co and threatened to impose a "big border tax" for making some Chevrolet Cruze cars in Mexico, which the US carmaker defended as part of a strategy to serve global customers, not sell them in the United States.
GM responded it makes its Cruze sedan in the United States and that all of those sold in the United States are made in a plant in Lordstown, Ohio. GM builds the Chevrolet Cruze hatchback for global markets in Mexico, with a small number GM began producing the Cruze in Mexico last year, making 52,631 cars there. In comparison, it built 319,536 of them in the United States. Previous versions of the Cruze sold in Mexico were made in a GM South Korea plant,

[austingtir]

Well he certainly is dumb enough to say it!



Like, if they are doing a nuclear test anyway why not just put the bomb to use?


Reeal Staaable Geeeeniuuuus!!


Just more "anonymous sources familiar with the matter.....".

Im honestly embarrassed for the number of you leftist (and otherwise clowns) that fall for all this fake news.

[husaberg]

The Partial Test Ban Treaty (PTBT) is the abbreviated name of the 1963 Treaty Banning Nuclear Weapon Tests in the Atmosphere, in Outer Space and Under Water, which prohibited all test detonations of nuclear weapons except for those conducted underground


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-LTRwZb35A

[austingtir]

The Partial Test Ban Treaty (PTBT) is the abbreviated name of the 1963 Treaty Banning Nuclear Weapon Tests in the Atmosphere, in Outer Space and Under Water, which prohibited all test detonations of nuclear weapons except for those conducted underground


Well given Trumps previous history with treaties I cant see that stopping him. Fact of the matter is its fake news though.

Its still better than the liberal idea that proposed a giant air conditioner to stop global warming. (global warming is fake news too kinda ironic huh?)

Try again fellas.

[Laava]

Like, if they are doing a nuclear test anyway why not just put the bomb to use?


Reeal Staaable Geeeeniuuuus!!


Just more "anonymous sources familiar with the matter.....".

Im honestly embarrassed for the number of you leftist (and otherwise clowns) that fall for all this fake news.

OMG! I just figured it out! You're Peter Griffin! Now that I hear his voice saying everything you say, it all fits into place!
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[husaberg]

Well given Trumps previous history with treaties I cant see that stopping him. Fact of the matter is its fake news though.

Its still better than the liberal idea that proposed a giant air conditioner to stop global warming. (global warming is fake news too kinda ironic huh?)

Try again fellas.

Just when i thought you couldn't spell out a less coherent thought process , you go and top your own personal best, with this masterpiece of non reality.:laugh:
There was a letter written to trump signed by 1100 economists including 4 noble laureates warning him that his trade war will cause a depression and cost more jobs than it saves.
Turns out that multi times bankrupt trump knows better.
this is a guy whose stunning lack of business accruement has resulted in accumulating ess money than if his father inheritance was just put in a bank.

[austingtir]

Just when i thought you couldn't spell out a less coherent thought process , you go and top your own personal best, with this masterpiece of non reality.:laugh:
There was a letter written to trump signed by 1100 economists including 4 noble laureates warning him that his trade war will cause a depression and cost more jobs than it saves.
Turns out that multi times bankrupt trump knows better.
this is a guy whose stunning lack of business accruement has resulted in accumulating ess money than if his father inheritance was just put in a bank.


Dont make me go back through this thread in its entirety and post every piece of utter garbage you have claimed is reality and with time has proven to be total phony ballony.

There's plenty of damning evidence in this thread alone to prove your TDS is totally out of control.

[husaberg]

Dont make me go back through this thread in its entirety and post every piece of utter garbage you have claimed is reality and with time has proven to be total phony ballony.

There's plenty of damning evidence in this thread alone to prove your TDS is totally out of control.

GO ahead be my guest yuokel/Scott......................
While you are out it translate your latest outburst for everyone.


Well given Trumps previous history with treaties I cant see that stopping him. Fact of the matter is its fake news though.

Its still better than the liberal idea that proposed a giant air conditioner to stop global warming. (global warming is fake news too kinda ironic huh?)

Try again fellas.

[austingtir]

GO ahead be my guest yuokel/Scott......................
While you are out it translate your latest outburst for everyone.


Now that I have had a quick look back to the start of this thread I can see the poster Yokel you are referring to. Nope not me but I hope he comes back as it seems he was one of the few talking some sense on here way back. I was never posting on this forum at the election but was on here back over 10 years ago or something pretty sure was posting under the same name I am now too. Not sure if this forum got some history deleted or they upgraded or something but something has changed between then and now for my old acc to disappear (maybe because I didnt use it? but im sure the mods can help you with that inner dr watson of yours thats screaming to get out). Unlike you iv got nothing to hide.

Its interesting just how many shit talkers have disappeared out of here since Trumps election.... Speaks volumes actually.... Its just a pitty you and Laava still feel the need to put your 2c in and thats being generous. No shame it seems.


So your wrong again.

I dont see anybody else needing a translation so maybe you should get that dyslexia of yours looked at.

[Laava]

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net%2Fv%2Ft1.0-9%2Fs851x315%2F69405931_10156972168057098_82557037 80373299200_n.jpg%3F_nc_cat%3D101%26_nc_oc%3DAQk0Z RN78Hxq76Oyx6AZ2eEcUlZypn4BWgM2ARnWHi7baGEcxsvhPCm fUbfjG8geIGM%26_nc_ht%3Dscontent.flhr4-1.fna%26oh%3D78d51f46c752606659de1dbc22390fc6%26oe %3D5DD58F5F&hash=b9b7c85f7e144a9e1f6521be9eb7636b

[pritch]

Meanwhile back on earth...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/26/trumps-presser-confirms-it-he-has-no-idea-why-hes-losing-trade-war/

[austingtir]

Meanwhile back on earth...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/26/trumps-presser-confirms-it-he-has-no-idea-why-hes-losing-trade-war/

WP is 100% fake news.

[husaberg]

Now that I have had a quick look back to the start of this thread I can see the poster Yokel you are referring to. Nope not me but I hope he comes back as it seems he was one of the few talking some sense on here way back. I was never posting on this forum at the election but was on here back over 10 years ago or something pretty sure was posting under the same name I am now too. Not sure if this forum got some history deleted or they upgraded or something but something has changed between then and now for my old acc to disappear (maybe because I didnt use it? but im sure the mods can help you with that inner dr watson of yours thats screaming to get out). Unlike you iv got nothing to hide.

Its interesting just how many shit talkers have disappeared out of here since Trumps election.... Speaks volumes actually.... Its just a pitty you and Laava still feel the need to put your 2c in and thats being generous. No shame it seems.


So your wrong again.

I dont see anybody else needing a translation so maybe you should get that dyslexia of yours looked at.

Yeah sound legit tell us some more Scott how you are not Yokel.
then show me the evidence you claim to have to back up your accusations you made below.


Dont make me go back through this thread in its entirety and post every piece of utter garbage you have claimed is reality and with time has proven to be total phony ballony.
There's plenty of damning evidence in this thread alone to prove your TDS is totally out of control.

Unless of course you cant.

[austingtir]

Yeah sound legit tell us more Scott how you are not Yokel.
then sh w me the evidence you claim to have to back upyour accusations.


I really couldnt care less and dont need to back up anything. Everyone on here knows your full of crap.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1165918301932916736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1165918301932916736&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediae mbed%2Fcvm38s%3Fresponsive%3Dtrue%26is_nightmode%3 Dfalse


Why are you purveyors of fake news getting BTFO in here just by me on my own? You backed the wrong horse in 2016 and you are still doubling down 3 years later.... makes sense.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKdIz9gP1uI

[oldrider]

This guy has died - how much of what he was telling us has turned out to be true?

REPORT: Iran War "rollout" a "disaster" says top Israeli Rabbi

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[pritch]

WP is 100% fake news.

"Fake news" is anything Trump doesn't like. So Hannity who spouts endless nonsense, Box o' Wine Pirro who shouts incoherently at the camera, and Fox and Friends are considered news by him. Not by anybody with an IQ above room temperature though, which by the way, excludes Trump.

Rex Tillerson, formerly successful CEO of the sixth biggest company on the planet, until appointed Secretary of State by Trump, called the latter "a fucking moron". He'd have been in a position to know, but Trump's condition has deteriorated since then.

[husaberg]

I really couldnt care less and dont need to back up anything. Everyone on here knows your full of crap.


Scott ie Yokel never could spell YOU'RE either.:laugh:

[austingtir]

China bending the knee already....


"China announces it seeks 'calm' end to trade war, as markets tank and currency hits 11-year flatline"

https://i.imgur.com/XXAkuZi.jpg

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/china-announces-it-seeks-end-to-trade-war-as-markets-tank-and-currency-hits-11-year-flatline

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/23/chinas-debt-levels-amid-its-slowing-economy.html

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/15/chinese-economic-growth-falls-to-62-as-global-slowdown-bites


Are Husaberg and co just going to pretend china isnt getting destroyed economically?



Its just getting embarrassing for you guys now. I think it's time you guys stopped posting.

[jasonu]

I think it's time you guys stopped posting.

The world would be a better place.

[Viking01]

Perhaps let's not get too far ahead of ourselves, shall we ?

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/trump-claims-meaningful-talks-at-the-highest-level-china-doesn-t-confirm-tkFBUQbEdU6L4Zcq6VA9hQ/

Let's just wait until we hear some official announcements about
who is going to be meeting with whom, and when ?

[austingtir]

Even half Cuban cucks like Trudeau are finally admitting China is a bad actor:

Trudolt now:
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Beijing_hits_back_after_Trudeau_vows_to_stand_up_t o_China_999.html

Most people wont admit what a master stroke it was by Trump to get Trudeau in the shit with his Chinese mates by telling him to arrest that Huawei chick.


Trudolt in 2017:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/trudeaus-embrace-of-china-exposes-his-naivete/article33619462/


So how long until our own cuck mistress Ardern realizes NZ is in a sticky situation with China? I see Rotorua's own Todd Mclay is being hauled over the coals this very moment for dodgy chinese donations.... Of course im sure Labour will try and smear all Nationals connections to china while ignoring and sweeping under the rug their own ones.


Times they are a changing!!

[Laava]

I think it's time you guys stopped posting.


The world would be a better place.

I think you clowns have lost sight of who is having to have their posting rights removed because they can't play nice. Dumb and fucking Dumber.

[husaberg]

I see Rotorua's own Todd Mclay is being hauled over the coals this very moment for dodgy chinese donations.... Of course im sure Labour will try and smear all Nationals connections to china while ignoring and sweeping under the rug their own ones.


Mclay is a National party member, the donations were to the Nations party they were made while Mclay was a national party cabinet minister.
There are national party documents that show an invoice showing the donation was paid into the National party's Rotorua electorate bank account, and details of a cluster of calls to and from National party MP Mr McClay around correspondence with the donor.
National party MP Mr McClay said he met the National party donor, Lang Lin, in July 2016 when he travelled to China as the National party's Trade Minister.Mr McClay later met Mr Lang in his National party Rotorua electorate where he indicated that his New Zealand business, Inner Mongolia Rider Horse Industry NZ Limited, would like to support the National Party.

Previously National Party leader Simon Burrrridges received a $100,000 donation from Auckland businessman Zhang Yikun, following a dinner at Zhang’s home, and a subsequent National Party fundraising event.

On the evening of the fundraiser in May, Former National party Deputy Whip Ross alleges National party leader Bridges called him with instructions to collect the $100,000 donation and split it into smaller sums so it would be below the threshold for declaration, and Zhang would not have to be declared as the source. In the national party electoral returns
National party leader simon Buurrrridges has denied any “corruption”, wrongdoing, or illegal activity regarding his returns.
However a taped conversation between National Party leader Simon Bridges and then National party MP Jami-Lee Ross is opening the National Party to accusations of a cash-for-candidates policy, prompting the Green Party to call for sweeping changes to political donations.
The conversation about a $100,000 donation to the National Party, following a dinner with Zhang Yikun and Colin Zheng, also traversed how to include another National party Chinese MP in the caucus.
"Now there's no catch or anything to it. You may recall at the dinner they did discuss candidacy, and another Chinese candidate," former National party member Ross said in the recording, also noting that Zheng had signed up for National Party candidates' college.
National party leader Simon Burrrrridges then talks about getting rid of some current National party MPs to make way for new ones, adding that it is "bloody hard, you've only got so much space ... Two (National party)Chinese [MPs] would be nice".

[austingtir]

Bolsonaro the most Trump like candidate anywhere else in the world?


https://imgur.com/a/JwvykTN

"Brazilian govt wont accept g7 money to fight fires saying that europe should use it to forrest europe instead and adding that Macron cant even stop a forseeable fire in a church"

Macrons going to need a massage from his pedophile wife to work that burn out of him!! :laugh::laugh:


Bolsonaro is going ham on Macron!! Obviously knows Macron is nothing more than another globalist stooge like Merkel......

https://www.thedailybeast.com/emmanuel-macron-slams-brazils-jair-bolsonaro-for-incredibly-disrespectful-comments-about-his-wife?ref=home

And heres why the leftist hysteria around the amazon fires is retarded:

Nobody has to worry about the Amazon, President Bolsonaro has already sent 43,000 army soldiers to help put out the fires, mobilized the brazilian air force to put out fires in hard to reach areas and our Justice Minister mobilized the Federal Police, which is the same as the FBI, to investigate and arrest those who committed these horrible acts against the amazon.

Now I will explain why he cannot accept this money:

1- The old laws still prevail in that area, the new government has not had a chance to change them yet and that's where this is a big problem, see, the previous government was so corrupt that all the money from the Amazon Fund went to NGOs, corrupt officials and to support terrorist organizations such as the landless movement (MST).

2- Macron knows that France can not face brazils agricultural industry, they will lose with the Mercosur - EU trade deal, and accepting that money means giving him the advantage to change the deal to protect the French farmers.

3- Macron hurts the sovereignty of Brazil, he is considering giving international status to the Amazon, basically taking it from brazil, so accepting this money is a dishonor for the Brazilian people.

4- France owe Brazil U$D 2.5 billion for the Kyoto Protocol.

And final but not least, Macron is a BITCH BOY and deserves zero respects from other leaders, he has no balls, no dignity and needs to stay quiet while real men like Bolsonaro and Trump do their jobs.

[Laava]

The clown show continues...
http://nzh.tw/12262565

[austingtir]

The clown show continues...
http://nzh.tw/12262565

No you just continue to post fake news.

[oldrider]

The clown show continues...
http://nzh.tw/12262565

Perhaps the world needs more of these independent people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHvjVH0goLw

[Laava]

No you just continue to post fake news.
The clown show continues.

[austingtir]

The clown show continues.

You should stop posting then.

[oldrider]

"WHY" the clown show continues?


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[Banditbandit]

Of course im sure Labour will try and smear all Nationals connections to china while ignoring and sweeping under the rug their own ones.


Times they are a changing!!


Labour does not have an MP who was employed by the Chinese spy agency - nor have they been caught discussing a sizable donation in exchange for a seat in the house - nor have they accepted $150,000 Chinese donation funneled through a New Zealand company - not illegal - but certainly against the spirit of the law and completely unethical ...

[austingtir]

Labour does not have an MP who was employed by the Chinese spy agency - nor have they been caught discussing a sizable donation in exchange for a seat in the house - nor have they accepted $150,000 Chinese donation funneled through a New Zealand company - not illegal - but certainly against the spirit of the law and completely unethical ...

You realize labour has not one but two chinese LIST mp's right (last I looked)? And our own Dr Anne Bradbury claims one Raymond Hou has connections directly back to the CCP in china....


Theres even a picture of Comrade ardern at a dinner function (how many $$$ per head I wonder?) with the same chinese businessman that was gifting both labour AND national all sots of money prior to the last election. Of course so they can fit their own puppet LIST MP's into both the Nats and Lab....

So yeah this act by yourself and husaberg like Labour is clean is totally ridiculous.

I dont like National or Labour both parties have sold this country out for long enough. They can both burn as far as im concerned. Both are globalist shill parties.

[Banditbandit]

You realize labour has not one but two chinese LIST mp's right (last I looked)?

Chinese descent does not make them Chinese nationals - it makes them New Zealander of Chinese descent ...



And our own Dr Anne Bradbury claims one Raymond Hou has connections directly back to the CCP in china....

SHow the evidence - national's Jian Yang admitted it ..



Theres even a picture of Comrade ardern at a dinner function (how many $$$ per head I wonder?) with the same chinese businessman that was gifting both labour AND national all sots of money prior to the last election. Of course so they can fit their own puppet LIST MP's into both the Nats and Lab....

Evidence of said donations to Labour ? Not just someone's claim ..


So yeah this act by yourself and husaberg like Labour is clean is totally ridiculous.

Oh bullshit - I do not think Labour is squeaky clean - but I don't accept unsubstantiated (big word I know - use a dictionary) claims ...


I dont like National or Labour both parties have sold this country out for long enough. They can both burn as far as im concerned. Both are globalist shill parties.

I don't support either party myself - National is too far right and Labour is too centrist .. but I do not buy into the bullshit conspiracy theories you do ..

[austingtir]

Chinese descent does not make them Chinese nationals - it makes them New Zealander of Chinese descent ...




SHow the evidence - national's Jian Yang admitted it ..




Evidence of said donations to Labour ? Not just someone's claim ..



Oh bullshit - I do not think Labour is squeaky clean - but I don't accept unsubstantiated (big word I know - use a dictionary) claims ...



I don't support either party myself - National is too far right and Labour is too centrist .. but I do not buy into the bullshit conspiracy theories you do ..


Theres photos of Jacinda at a paid for dinner with said chinese businessman. All of what I said is 100% fact other than maybe ONE of the labour chinese mps being born in NZ I think (that doesnt mean she's not influencing for the chinese just makes it less likely). The other one mentioned Raymond Hou is 100% chinese origin and has provable connections to the CCP. That is verified fact by Dr Ann from Lincoln university who studies china for a living.

Labour to centrist.... LMFAO here we go!

You must be voting for all the racists and communists in the greens then. LOL.

[Banditbandit]

Theres photos of Jacinda at a paid for dinner with said chinese businessman.

Proves nothing - except she had dinner with them ...


That is verified fact by Dr Ann from Lincoln university who studies china for a living.

Post a link - don't just make some unsupported claim about what she said - I can't even find her in any search engine .. and she is not listed on Lincoln's staff directory .. so substantiate your claim or I call BULLSHIT ..


Labour to centrist.... LMFAO here we go!

You have no idea little wilie - no idea at all ....


You must be voting for all the racists and communists in the greens then. LOL.

Yeah - really no idea - I don't support the greens either - wishy washy do gooders ..

[Katman]

- I can't even find her in any search engine .. and she is not listed on Lincoln's staff directory ..

Try 'Anne-Marie Brady'.

[austingtir]

Try 'Anne-Marie Brady'.


Yeah thats the one my bad, dunno where bradbury came from.

[austingtir]

Proves nothing - except she had dinner with them ...




Well that just proves your an idiot. Politicians dont just "have dinner with someone".

If thats the way you think the world works iv got news for you.

As long as your not voting for the greens your all good with me, other than the being an idiot bit.

[Laava]

Proves nothing - except she had dinner with them ...



Post a link - don't just make some unsupported claim about what she said - I can't even find her in any search engine .. and she is not listed on Lincoln's staff directory .. so substantiate your claim or I call BULLSHIT ..



You have no idea little wilie - no idea at all ....



Yeah - really no idea - I don't support the greens either - wishy washy do gooders ..
You dont need to call bullshit on him, it's pretty much a given!

[Laava]

What's this cunt been up to this time?
http://nzh.tw/12262836

[Banditbandit]

Here we go ..

"Fast-tracked impeachment hearings will occur this fall if the bombshell report is true that President Donald Trump had loans with Deutsche Bank co-signed by Russian oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.

“The source close to Deutsche Bank says that the co-signers of Donald Trump’s Deutsche Bank loans are Russian billionaires close to Vladimir Putin,” MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell reported Tuesday."


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/russian-oligarch-bombshell-would-make-impeachment-proceedings-absolutely-inevitable-nbc-analyst/?fbclid=IwAR3VSzWsRxokx6VJxxJCi0lpTVdx1pBL18JSYniv sJnr3Wm_-VRWrr5CFA0

[austingtir]

Here we go ..

"Fast-tracked impeachment hearings will occur this fall if the bombshell report is true that President Donald Trump had loans with Deutsche Bank co-signed by Russian oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.

“The source close to Deutsche Bank says that the co-signers of Donald Trump’s Deutsche Bank loans are Russian billionaires close to Vladimir Putin,” MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell reported Tuesday."


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/russian-oligarch-bombshell-would-make-impeachment-proceedings-absolutely-inevitable-nbc-analyst/?fbclid=IwAR3VSzWsRxokx6VJxxJCi0lpTVdx1pBL18JSYniv sJnr3Wm_-VRWrr5CFA0


It figures you would be one to believe all this utter crap.

"the source close to"
And "people close to the matter"
etc, etc.

pfff, they even start the article with "if true"...... Just LMFAO. I stopped reading right there.

If your in the know those are key phrases that tell you instantly its a fake news story. Those CIA boys have sure done a number on a lot of people.

[Banditbandit]

Well that just proves your an idiot. Politicians dont just "have dinner with someone".

No - of course not - doesn't prove Labour took any donations from that source ... Trump has eaten with Rocket Man - bet he didn't get a donation there either ..




As long as your not voting for the greens your all good with me,

Mate - I'm from the Far Radical Left .. you'd be first up against the wall if the revolution comes ..

[oldrider]

America's most valued ally is going it all alone - who will step in to "assist?" them?:- https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-27/fighting-dramatically-escalates-both-sides-prepare-final-war-between-israel-and - :scratch: - Maybe America?- :whistle:

[austingtir]

No - of course not - doesn't prove Labour took any donations from that source ... Trump has eaten with Rocket Man - bet he didn't get a donation there either ..



Mate - I'm from the Far Radical Left .. you'd be first up against the wall if the revolution comes ..


Nah he just got rocketman to stop threatening to nuke everybody. Just a bit of a bigger deal than a politically influencing donation I would think.

And you'd be third behind husaberk and laava to get a "free" helicopter ride.

[pritch]

Chinese descent does not make them Chinese nationals - it makes them New Zealander of Chinese descent ...


Good point. So is Crusher Collins husband a Chinese national or a Kiwi of Chinese descent?

OK, I was curious so I looked it up. The answer is neither, he's Samoan Chinese. Judith Wong Tung doesn't have quite the same ring to it as Crusher Collins. Not that she actually crushed anything.

[oldrider]

Good point. So is Crusher Collins husband a Chinese national or a Kiwi of Chinese descent?

OK, I was curious so I looked it up. The answer is neither, he's Samoan Chinese. Judith Wong Tung doesn't have quite the same ring to it as Crusher Collins. Not that she actually crushed anything.

Samoa (Formerly Western Samoa) or American Samoa? There are different connotations. :confused:

[oldrider]

Lebanon, Iraq, Iran call out Israel's 'declaration of war' after it bombs 3 COUNTRIES in one weekend - :2guns: - https://www.rt.com/news/467354-israel-war-lebanon-iraq-iran/ - Bibi's back!

[Banditbandit]

Nah he just got rocketman to stop threatening to nuke everybody. Just a bit of a bigger deal than a politically

Oh yeah right - that's why rocket man is testing again ..




And you'd be third behind husaberk and laava to get a "free" helicopter ride.


Feeling a little threatened are you? A little agitated ? Pushed too many of you buttons did I?

Sheesh - little willie - harden up (or sorry - not worth it )

[austingtir]

^^
Theres a big difference between testing nukes and firing off the odd rocket.

Every well established country on the planet tests rockets (if they are smart enough). Which NK imo isnt. Which begs the question where did they get their rocket and nuke tech from? (hint: Sneaky Bill Clinton and co had a hand in that!)

And thats just kims annual response to the USA and South koreas annual war games....


Just more msm brainwashing that you've been eating up.

[Banditbandit]

^^
Theres a big difference between testing nukes and firing off the odd rocket.

Every well established country on the planet tests rockets (if they are smart enough). Which NK imo isnt. Which begs the question where did they get their rocket and nuke tech from? (hint: Sneaky Bill Clinton and co had a hand in that!)

And thats just kims annual response to the USA and South koreas annual war games....


Just more msm brainwashing that you've been eating up.

Whose bullshit have you been brainwashed by little willie ?

[pritch]

Whose bullshit have you been brainwashed by little willie ?

Some of the crap he comes out with is absolutely astounding. I’m not going to ask where he gets it because I really don’t want to know.

[austingtir]

^^ We all know where you get your crap from. FAKE NEWS!!!


Anyway now that we have grownups running the show in the USA they are about to give a lesson in how to control Russia and every other tinpot dictatorship around the world.


The US is about to send a lot more oil into an already oversupplied world market
The U.S. is about to boost its status as a major oil exporter.
New pipelines are coming online to transport oil from a bottleneck in the Permian Basin to the Gulf Coast where it can be shipped to the world.
The U.S. is turning the Gulf Coast into a major export hub, and that could one day make U.S. crude an international benchmark, according to Citigroup’s Ed Morse.
Citigroup says U.S. oil exports of 3 million barrels a day could grow by a million barrels a day this year and another million next year.

The oil market is already struggling with too much supply, and the U.S. is about to flood the world with a lot more.

In the last decade, the U.S. has more than doubled oil production to 12.3 million barrels a day, making it the world’s largest producer. But the infrastructure needed to transport that crude out of Texas oil fields and onto the world market has been lacking.

This month marks a big change for the industry with the start of the Plains All American Pipeline’s Cactus II, a 670,000 barrel a day pipeline, connecting the Permian Basin to Corpus Christi, Texas, and from there to the world. That pipeline, and another, named Epic, are just the start, with more to follow.

The new pipelines are expected to take more Texas crude to the Gulf Coast, and from there it can be shipped out to the world, but the world is now well supplied, and even more U.S. oil could help depress prices, especially if the trade wars continue to suppress demand.

According to Citigroup, the new pipelines could help grow U.S. oil exports from the current 3 million barrels a day by 1 million barrels more by year-end and another million barrels next year. Exports have already grown by an average 970,00 barrels a day this year over last year, according to Citigroup.


“It will be 4 million barrels a day by six or eight months. Four million barrels a day is a lot bigger than the North Sea as a whole. That crude oil is going to go everywhere. It goes to Asia, Europe, to India,” said Edward Morse, Citigroup global head of commodities research. “If the U.S. gets to 6 million barrels a day in three years, it will be hands-down the world benchmark.”

The surge in pipeline capacity will help unlock a bottleneck of oil in the Permian Basin, which Citi has forecast could double its production to about 8 million barrels a day by 2023.

As the pipelines are being built, there will be a need for increased export capacity. Shipping facilities are being expanded all along the Gulf Coast, in Texas and in Louisiana. The U.S. will soon have the export capacity for 6 million barrels a day, and even more is planned, according to Citi.

“Until now, it’s been an issue of getting oil from the Permian down to the Gulf Coast. Now it’s going to be getting out of the Gulf Coast to the world market,” said Francisco Blanch, head of Bank of America commodities and derivatives research. “The ability to move all that oil is going to improve over the course of the next 18 months.”

New world order?

All of this new oil creates a dilemma for OPEC. Saudi Arabia, de facto leader of OPEC, and its partner Russia, have cut back on oil production to help stabilize prices. Even with the loss of much of Venezuela’s oil and 2 million barrels a day from Iran, there is plenty of oil with U.S. oil production growing at more than 1 million barrels a day this year and demand growing at about the same pace.

“OPEC has lost 1% of market share per annum, every year for the last seven years,” said Blanch.

Oil prices have been range bound, with West Texas Intermediate crude futures well off the one-year high from October of $75 per barrel. The price fell to a low of $42 on Christmas Eve, as risk markets sold off, and has been in the mid-$50s lately. Brent futures, the international benchmark, has traded on both sides of $60 per barrel this month.

While OPEC has intentionally curbed production, simple economics have contained U.S. production growth, which has been flattish in recent weeks, after rising from 11 million barrels a day a year ago.

“Obviously, companies are cutting back. They’re cutting back in terms of investment and activity. You see the rig count coming down. You still see production efficiencies driving growth, but you’ll have a slower rate of sequential growth from here,” said Blanch. He noted that U.S. rig count was down 12% from year-ago levels at the middle of August.

Morse said he expects Russia and OPEC to stay together, and an economic slowdown would encourage them to continue their partnership.

“A recession scenario makes it easier for them to believe in what they’ve been saying,” he said, noting the producers have held oil from the market to stabilize supplies.

When demand drops, prices fall and U.S. producers would no longer find it makes economic sense to pump as much oil. An economic downturn would only slow the trend, not stop it.

“We agree there’s going to be an overabundance for the next two to three years. We see prices being challenged for the next two to three years. We see Brent in the low $50s, and WTI in the high $40s, which is not an environment where there’s going to be much as much reinvestment, as there is,” Morse said. “We’ll have to modify our expectations for production growth, given the increased likelihood that global GDP is going to be low and even without a recession, demand will be lower.”




52.9% of Russian exports are mineral fuels including oil. 82% of Irans exports is crude petroleum.


USA is going to crush one big economic competitor with tariffs, and some others by flooding the market that they get most of there income.


4D Chess once again boyos.

And what would be cheap gas for my v8 if it wasnt for Comrade Jacinda and co..... And where are all these halfwits that were telling us the world was going to run out of oil???

[Banditbandit]

And what would be cheap gas for my v8 if it wasnt for Comrade Jacinda and co.....


Probably get cheaper petrol - soemthign else wousd rise to off set the income lost through lower petrol taxes ..



And where are all these halfwits that were telling us the world was going to run out of oil???

You don't seriously believe there is an unlimited supply of oil in the ground do you?

Yeah - I'll bet you do little willie ..

[austingtir]

Probably get cheaper petrol - soemthign else wousd rise to off set the income lost through lower petrol taxes ..




You don't seriously believe there is an unlimited supply of oil in the ground do you?

Yeah - I'll bet you do little willie ..

Did I say theres an unlimited supply?


The Saudi's alone have got hundreds of trillions of barrels of oil (more than enough to last until your grandchildren's grandchildren are dead) Dan Pena knows ("running out of oil is 100% BULLSHIT!!")


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VULUk3z0xHY

[Viking01]

^^ We all know where you get your crap from. FAKE NEWS!!!

...

4D Chess once again boyos.

And what would be cheap gas for my v8 if it wasnt for Comrade Jacinda and co..... And where are all these halfwits that were telling us the world was going to run out of oil???

Next time, would you just post the link (or acknowledge the source):

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/27/the-us-is-about-to-send-a-lot-more-oil-into-an-oversupplied-market.html

Thanks.

[Viking01]

You don't seriously believe there is an unlimited supply of oil in the ground do you?



Well, dare I say it, but that comment may have a degree of truth. Not
unlimited, but certainly much more than earlier believed.

Peak Oil Theory
Back in the 1950's, Hubbert proposed a theory of "Peak Oil" - which was
subsequently disputed by Russian geologists (see abiotic or abiogenic
oil source in the following links):

http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO31Dec2018.php

https://principia-scientific.org/russians-nasa-discredit-fossil-fuel-theory-demise-of-junk-co2-science/

So the abundance of oil is likely much greater than was earlier believed.

That said, it does not mean that it is physically accessible or economically
retrievable.

Discovery of New Oil and Gas Sources
As expected, new oil and gas reserves are being discovered on an ongoing
basis.

An example is shale gas, which once extracted can be equated with natural
gas (in terms of processing and local distribution). Export would typically
require liquefication followed by re-gasification after receipt in-market.

while the discovery of shale gas within the US has led to the situation
where the US may now have the largest gas reserves, the shale gas life
cycle will still be subject to factors such as:

- the need to continually drill new wells (because of rapid gas depletion)
and hence the need for continual capital investment;
- the issue of fracking and its environmental side-effects (water pollution;
earth quakes; methane emissions), plus the need for an abundant supply
of ground water in drilling areas;
- cost of transport to and reticulation of product within intended markets;
- being able to realise an adequate price and ROI (in light of a potential
over-supply in a world market);
- other factors such as trade wars and sanctions.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/US-Oil-Exports-Become-Victim-Of-Their-Own-Success.html

https://www.checkpointasia.net/china-trade-war-kneecaps-us-lng/

So, having large reserves is one thing. Getting a refined product to market
and realising a decent price (and profit) is another.

[Edit]

https://www.checkpointasia.net/ukraine-finds-an-innovative-way-to-pay-even-more-for-its-gas/

Saudi Oil Reserves
Hundreds of trillions of barrels ? I'm not sure if Donald said that, but maybe
a little optimistic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Saudi_Arabia

[austingtir]

Time traveller trump on China and Climate Cult in 2012....

https://i.redd.it/ot1n5590p9j31.jpg

[Laava]

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/attachments/secret-jpg.166922/

[Laava]

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/attachments/trump-jpg.166945/

[TheDemonLord]

Image

And yet, He beat out Hilary. He got North Korea to the Negotiating table. He's not started any more shooting Wars. He repeatedly gets the extremist left to show their true color.s

Either the mans repeated success is the worlds biggest and longest lucky streak, Or there's more to him than appears.

[Ocean1]

Either the mans repeated success is the worlds biggest and longest lucky streak, Or there's more to him than appears.

“Yes, it is true that sometimes unusually intelligent and sensitive children can appear to be stupid. But stupid children can sometimes appear to be stupid as well. I think that's something you might have to consider.”

― Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul


I miss Douglas Adams.

[oldrider]

I miss Douglas Adams.

You can always join him. - :msn-wink:

[jasonu]

And yet, He beat out Hilary. He got North Korea to the Negotiating table. He's not started any more shooting Wars. He repeatedly gets the extremist left to show their true color.s

Either the mans repeated success is the worlds biggest and longest lucky streak, Or there's more to him than appears.

Don't waste your breath.
He could invent a cure for cancer and cunts like those around here would still find a way to bag him.

[pritch]

Don't waste your breath.
He could invent a cure for cancer and cunts like those around here would still find a way to bag him.

You haven't been paying attention, he recently said he's going to cure child cancer after the next election. He's a "fucking moron", he doesn't pay his bills and he's a crook. Professionals consider he is suffering from narcissistic personality disorder and cognitively is not fit to perform the duties of president. He's a pathological liar. He couldn't get a casino licence in Australia because they didn't like his mob connections, but hey President of the USA? No problem.

[Laava]

I wonder what he is bringing me for xmas?

[jasonu]

You haven't been paying attention, he recently said he's going to cure child cancer after the next election. He's a "fucking moron", he doesn't pay his bills and he's a crook. Professionals consider he is suffering from narcissistic personality disorder and cognitively is not fit to perform the duties of president. He's a pathological liar. He couldn't get a casino licence in Australia because they didn't like his mob connections, but hey President of the USA? No problem.

Care to back all or any of that up with verifiable proof?



Naa I didn't think so.

[pritch]

Care to back all or any of that up with verifiable proof?



Naa I didn't think so.


It's all there - if you'd take an itelligent interest. The documentation relating to his Australian casino application is available on the Internet. The speech from a recent rally during which he said he'd cure child cancer should be on Youtube. I've seen it, if you opened your eyes you could see it too. His Secretary of State said he was a fucking moron. IIRC General Mattis was a bit more polite and just said Trump was a moron. He is reportedly way behind on payment of the venure hire for his rallies. When he opened his most recent hotel, the one that used to be a post office, there were about a dozen liens on the building in favour of unpaid contractors. Links to Trump and NPD will be all over the 'Net. It's all there.

Blissful ignorance is one thing, determined stupidity is quite another.

[oldrider]

Care to back all or any of that up with verifiable proof?



Naa I didn't think so.


It's all there - if you'd take an itelligent interest. The documentation relating to his Australian casino application is available on the Internet. The speech from a recent rally during which he said he'd cure child cancer should be on Youtube. I've seen it, if you opened your eyes you could see it too. His Secretary of State said he was a fucking moron. IIRC General Mattis was a bit more polite and just said Trump was a moron. He is reportedly way behind on payment of the venure hire for his rallies. When he opened his most recent hotel, the one that used to be a post office, there were about a dozen liens on the building in favour of unpaid contractors. Links to Trump and NPD will be all over the 'Net. It's all there.

Blissful ignorance is one thing, determined stupidity is quite another.

It's all immaterial anyway, he is compromised and his backers have him covered as long as he does what "they" want/tell him to do - he is "their" man! - :whistle:

[pritch]

It's all immaterial anyway, he is compromised and his backers have him covered as long as he does what "they" want/tell him to do - he is "their" man! - :whistle:

You might have missed the latest. It's reported overnight that Bibi and his aides were trying to contact Trump urgently but that this time he was not available. We may find out what that's about, or it may be nothing. Time will tell.

[Viking01]

You might have missed the latest. It's reported overnight that Bibi and his aides were trying to contact Trump urgently but that this time he was not available. We may find out what that's about, or it may be nothing. Time will tell.

Well, that was a surprise. Don should be home as he cancelled
his Poland visit to stay home and watch Hurricane Dorian on TV:

https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/29/president-donald-trump-cancels-poland-visit-to-deal-with-hurricane-dorian

Plus he has been busy socialising another tax cut for the US
wealthy:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/30/just-ahead-labor-day-trump-floats-tax-cut-condemned-pure-giveaway-wealthy

[oldrider]

Big dog little dog saga to play out in ME? - :yawn:

Go ahead Bibi - start your war and we will come on in and finish it for you - there you go now? - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/08/29/pompeo_us_will_give_israel_diplomatic_legal_and_mi litary_resupply_support_in_any_war_with_iran_howev er_long.html - :wait:

[oldrider]

Israel has the right to defend it's self - even if it means attacking Iran? - :msn-wink:

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[jasonu]

Blissful ignorance is one thing, determined stupidity is quite another.

Classic!!!!!

[Viking01]

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/08/30/real-news-or-fake-news/

[TheDemonLord]

You haven't been paying attention, he recently said he's going to cure child cancer after the next election. He's a "fucking moron", he doesn't pay his bills and he's a crook. Professionals consider he is suffering from narcissistic personality disorder and cognitively is not fit to perform the duties of president. He's a pathological liar. He couldn't get a casino licence in Australia because they didn't like his mob connections, but hey President of the USA? No problem.

Let's try it without the raging spin:

JFK said they would put a Man on the Moon before the end of the Decade, likewise Trump may be setting a goal for people to Aim at. Which there's a rather large amount of evidence that setting a goal with a deadline leads to a higher chance of success.

Doesn't pay his bills - Let's assume no malice or reason for withholding payment - late payers in Business are a common thing, Might I point out that he's rather Busy, and most likely that Accounts Payable is probably handled by a Team or Department, not Trump himself.

Professions - would these be radically left-wing psychologists (an overwhelmingly left-wing field) who might have an ulterior motive for their 'assessments', which I'll note not a single one has done a formal assessment. That last part should be quite concerning.

Pathological Liar? or Perhaps He's a Salesman.

A Casino?

Oh the one he tried to build In 1986. I mean if you are so desperate as to dredge up things from over 30 years ago, does that not suggest some unhealthy obsession on your part?

In other news - it Seems Trump has played a classic GoT style move with his Nuking of Hurricanes - after complaining about leaks from the Whitehouse, we get a crazy story which Trump denied (unlike other Outlandish Trump claims, which he's stood by) and curiously not long after, one of his staffers is fired for leaking.

I'll repeat - There appears to be more to the Man than things seem.

[nerrrd]

Would be a radically left wing neurologist if they were questioning his cognitive function, just sayin'.

[pritch]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/115419803/whys-it-so-hard-for-us-to-say-out-loud-that-trump-has-lost-his-mind

[onearmedbandit]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/115419803/whys-it-so-hard-for-us-to-say-out-loud-that-trump-has-lost-his-mind

Man the opinion piece writer couldn't even hide his hate for Trump in describing his resorts...


His most coherent moment over the past week came when he took to the G7 stage in France to propose one of his family's hideous resorts for the next get-together.

[TheDemonLord]

Would be a radically left wing neurologist if they were questioning his cognitive function, just sayin'.

Sure - Have they done the necessary tests that would be required to make such a determination?

If the answer is no - then one has to call into their professionalism, pronouncing a judgement without the necessary data.

Perhaps another way to put it:

If one wishes to get Trump re-elected, then keeping up this type of attack is the right way to go about it.

[pritch]

Man the opinion piece writer couldn't even hide his hate for Trump in describing his resorts...

Yeah "hideous" might be a bit strong, and they can't all be tarred with the same brush. I haven't been to any but have no desire to do so. Just as well really, I could probably only afford the one that just settled a claim over bed bugs.

[oldrider]

Sure - Have they done the necessary tests that would be required to make such a determination?

If the answer is no - then one has to call into their professionalism, pronouncing a judgement without the necessary data.

Perhaps another way to put it:

If one wishes to get Trump re-elected, then keeping up this type of attack is the right way to go about it.

That's all ready sorted (IMO) - elections are only a distraction to give punters the impression that they count and are in control! (again IMO) Heads they win tails we lose! - :mellow:

[oldrider]

Well he "is dead" right now anyway - so we shall soon see if he was right? - :wait: - (Prophesy and fulfilment? - Sheesh. :facepalm:)

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https://www.newsweek.com/israel-wants-war-iran-netanyahu-1330704

[oldrider]

The Guide To Real History: Profit & World Domination:- https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-02/guide-real-history-profit-world-domination - :mellow:

[Quote] Bizarrely, education and media prefer to bring everything back to public figures and politicians like Churchill, Hitler or Stalin, but they will never tell you that these charismatic monsters had no money, nor created it. Hitler was a failed artist that built the most formidable war machine the world had seen in 6 years only, in a near-bankrupt country deprived of any oil production, so do you think he might have had some help? [Unquote] - Follow the money. :cool:

[oldrider]

They lied to us all. Here's the real Elections Interference? - :rolleyes:

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[Katman]

They lied to us all. Here's the real Elections Interference?

But, but, but......Trump.

[Viking01]

But, but, but......Trump.

Are you sure ?. I'm sure it was "But, but, but ... the Russians"
a few months ago.

And then the Chinese more recently, for failing to bend the knee.

Has the hymn sheet changed yet again ?

[pritch]

So there we have Rafael Eduardo Cruz (call me Ted), a latino immigrant who got himself elected as a white supremacist in Texas. Whether you like him or not, that's a bloody good trick. And there he sits having taken millions from the NRA, big pharma, the Jewish lobby, and God knows who else, trying to deflect attention to Silicone Valey.

None of which is to say Silicone Valley is blameless, but Jack Dorsey who owns Twitter definitely doesn't come across as a Democrat supporter. It took a serious and sustained push to get the various social media sites to drop the fascist/extremist/mass murder resources they were hosting.
Money seems significantly more important to them than political allegiances.

[oldrider]

Comey inserted 3 spies in the White House to sabotage President Trump:- :shifty: https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/comey-inserted-3-spies-in-the-white-house-to-sabotage-president-trump/ - :wait:

[oldrider]

George Soros Is Lobbying Lawmakers To Take Your Guns Away:- :kick: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-06/george-soros-lobbying-lawmakers-take-your-guns-away - :stoogie: . Stick em up! - :shutup:

[pritch]

George Soros Is Lobbying Lawmakers To Take Your Guns Away:- :kick: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-06/george-soros-lobbying-lawmakers-take-your-guns-away - :stoogie: . Stick em up! - :shutup:

Geez John! If Soros did 1% of the stuff he's accused of he'd be going at it like a one armed paperhanger. Basically he's just a sort of a battlecry the right use to rouse their followers. Like for instance Trump saying protesters were paid by Soros. The only politician to pay a crowd in 2016 was Trump himself, and as is his way he paid late.

Trump has turned the US into a banana republic. Barr the AG has booked a Trump hotel for his US$30,000 Christmas function. VP Pence stayed at Trumps golf club while in Ireland. It's not exactly handy either, the meeting was in Dublin, Trumps Club is on the opposite coast nearly 300K away. Trump himself is trying to get the next G7 meeting to one of his properties, except it'll be the G8 because he wants Putin there, but he'll probably invite some other randoms as well just to boost the occupancy. He now has the USAF stopping at Glasgow and crews staying at his Turnberry golf club. That's not exactly handy either, and the crews don't like it because they can't afford to eat there. Also it means the aircraft refuel at at a civilian airport which apparently costs more than if they refuelled at a military base.

Oh and I read this morning that fifty one US coal mines have closed since Trump was elected. I don't know if the figure is correct but I do know the union is not happy. The head of the union is currently very vocal.

More seriously though, when Russia annexed Crimea a number of punitive measures were introduced: sanctions were imposed, Russia was excluded from the G8, arms were supplied to Ukraine to assist them resist the Russian encroachment to the East, funding was supplied to other European countries bordering Russia to strengthen their defences. Trump has removed US sanctions, he wants Russia at the G7 meeting, he has frozen the arms to Ukraine, (apparently he's trying to blackmail them into giving him dirt on Biden) and he's taken the funding that was to be supplied to strengthen European defences to pay for his wall.

Trump has done everything Putin wanted. There are probably still people who don't think he's working for Russia, but they haven't been paying attention.

Then there's the bat shit crazy stuff he has done about the hurricane threatening Alabama, for five days now and counting.

Seriously, the Democrats need to get off their arses.

[husaberg]

Geez John! If Soros did 1% of the stuff he's accused of he'd be going at it like a one armed paperhanger. Basically he's just a sort of a battlecry the right use to rouse their followers. Like for instance Trump saying protesters were paid by Soros. The only politician to pay a crowd in 2016 was Trump himself, and as is his way he paid late.

Trump has turned the US into a banana republic. Barr the AG has booked a Trump hotel for his US$30,000 Christmas function. VP Pence stayed at Trumps golf club while in Ireland. It's not exactly handy either, the meeting was in Dublin, Trumps Club is on the opposite coast nearly 300K away. Trump himself is trying to get the next G7 meeting to one of his properties, except it'll be the G8 because he wants Putin there, but he'll probably invite some other randoms as well just to boost the occupancy. He now has the USAF stopping at Glasgow and crews staying at his Turnberry golf club. That's not exactly handy either, and the crews don't like it because they can't afford to eat there. Also it means the aircraft refuel at at a civilian airport which apparently costs more than if they refuelled at a military base.

Oh and I read this morning that fifty one US coal mines have closed since Trump was elected. I don't know if the figure is correct but I do know the union is not happy. The head of the union is currently very vocal.

More seriously though, when Russia annexed Crimea a number of punitive measures were introduced: sanctions were imposed, Russia was excluded from the G8, arms were supplied to Ukraine to assist them resist the Russian encroachment to the East, funding was supplied to other European countries bordering Russia to strengthen their defences. Trump has removed US sanctions, he wants Russia at the G7 meeting, he has frozen the arms to Ukraine, (apparently he's trying to blackmail them into giving him dirt on Biden) and he's taken the funding that was to be supplied to strengthen European defences to pay for his wall.

Trump has done everything Putin wanted. There are probably still people who don't think he's working for Russia, but they haven't been paying attention.

Then there's the bat shit crazy stuff he has done about the hurricane threatening Alabama, for five days now and counting.

Seriously, the Democrats need to get of their arses.


One of the better Trump resort stories is the Time magazine that was found to be displayed in a number of them.
Talk about "FAKE NEWS"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDWQPk-UQAAftW8.jpg


or we have the Trump washington Hotel

The Trumps recently opened a fancy new hotel in Washington, D.C., a location they lease from the government. This has been tagged as a big conflict of interest, with a report from a Republican senator’s office showing Trump was granted $40 million in tax credits. It doesn’t look like anyone’s going to press for changes on this front.

Or Trump Tower New York.

One of the most obvious and expensive ways in which taxpayers are getting nailed concerns Trump Tower in Manhattan. The first lady and Trump’s son Barron were living there, and that required round-the-clock security and Secret Service protection. That amounted to roughly $500,000 per day in expenses — all paid for by the American people. The people of New York City were also fronting the bill for an extra 200 police officers.


or his officials flights on private jets

First, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin was caught flying on a military plane to Fort Knox, Kentucky, during the solar eclipse. Then Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price, who racked up hundreds of thousands of dollars in luxury jet travel to private islands and lunches with his son, was outed for similar grifting. On Thursday night, Ryan Zinke, a former congressman and now the secretary of the Interior, was reported to have taken a trip to the Virgin Islands and to his second home in Montana, both times flying on chartered jets.

[austingtir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjcdMU2itv8

[austingtir]

Omar is about to get wrecked.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXy2WdC8av8


More gold from John Ward (not safe for work): Why are all these people running around calling white people racists also having sex with said white people??:rolleyes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlGFzeacyr0

[oldrider]

US Sanctions Are Designed to Kill:- http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52222.htm - :shifty:

US-Iran Tensions: Interview with Mohammad Marandi

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[oldrider]

Geez John! If Soros did 1% of the stuff he's accused of he'd be going at it like a one armed paperhanger.

https://www.nyatider.nu/the-global-network-behind-greta-thunberg/ - Behold the one armed one hard at work? - :shifty: - The legendary 1% - :msn-wink:

[Banditbandit]

I miss Douglas Adams.

Me too - hey look - something else we agree on ..

[Laava]

Me too - hey look - something else we agree on ..
I am watching Dirk Gentlys Holistic Detective agency on netflix. Is very D.A.!

[pritch]

Aspiring Yank politicians do some great TV ads. This one is for Valerie Plame who is running for congress, the ad explains who she is but there's a ton of stuff about her on the 'Net.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICW-dGD1M18

[Ocean1]

I am watching Dirk Gentlys Holistic Detective agency on netflix. Is very D.A.!

I caught some of the middle of it, watched for 15 min, failed to recognise anything from the books at all and turned it off.

Not an uncommon reaction where you see anything based on an original book, between the fact that the pictures in your head aren't quite what the writer had in his and the subsequent "reinterpretation" by some idiot director you're rarely satisfied with the result.

If you haven't read them give it a go, Long Dark Teatime is particularly good.

[oldrider]

Aspiring Yank politicians do some great TV ads. This one is for Valerie Plame who is running for congress, the ad explains who she is but there's a ton of stuff about her on the 'Net.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICW-dGD1M18

She blew it when she stated - "Democrat for progress" - Yeah Right? - :rolleyes: - Do they have Tui over there?

[Laava]

I caught some of the middle of it, watched for 15 min, failed to recognise anything from the books at all and turned it off.

Not an uncommon reaction where you see anything based on an original book, between the fact that the pictures in your head aren't quite what the writer had in his and the subsequent "reinterpretation" by some idiot director you're rarely satisfied with the result.

If you haven't read them give it a go, Long Dark Teatime is particularly good.
Will keep my eyes peeled for them.