The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[pritch]

I think this election has done wonders in showing the world what a farce the whole process is.

That's true. The respective party HQs don't like it to be too obvious that they tend to get what they want regardless of what the public actually vote. All of the superdelegates in an upcoming primary (Wisconsin?) have announced they will vote for Clinton at the convention even if Sanders wins the primary.
So much for not being obvious.

If, as a result of this and similar gerrymandering the Sanders supporters stay home in November, the result could be President Trump. :gob:

[Akzle]

That's true. The respective party HQs don't like it to be too obvious that they tend to get what they want regardless of what the public actually vote. All of the superdelegates in an upcoming primary (Wisconsin?) have announced they will vote for Clinton at the convention even if Sanders wins the primary.
So much for not being obvious.

If, as a result of this and similar gerrymandering the Sanders supporters stay home in November, the result could be President Trump. :gob:

waitwaitwait...


you mean to tell me Col. Sanders is an option?

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/f/fc/ColonelSanders.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100411060926

[Banditbandit]

waitwaitwait...


you mean to tell me Col. Sanders is an option?

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/f/fc/ColonelSanders.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100411060926

Not a voting option - but the corporates certainly rule the land ..

[oldrider]

waitwaitwait...you mean to tell me Col. Sanders is an option?

Naah - turned out when they peeled of all the flavours on top - underneath he really was just another chicken! :rolleyes:

[Banditbandit]

Naah - turned out when they peeled of all the crap on top - underneath he really was just another chicken! :rolleyes:

Fixed that for you ..

[yokel]

Apparently Trump was wrong to say women should be punished if they get an illegal abortion because ....................vagina.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/78403039/donald-trump-if-abortion-is-banned-women-who-have-procedure-should-be-punished

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/78443845/backlash-over-donald-trumps-abortion-comments-grows-as-rivals-pounce

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[idb]

https://youtu.be/8Poi5x0E2CM

[Woodman]

waitwaitwait...


you mean to tell me Col. Sanders is an option?

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/f/fc/ColonelSanders.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100411060926

You can't have a president that keeps secrets from the public.

[oldrider]

You can't have a president that keeps secrets from the public.

Hmm - Try naming one that hasn't done that? :scratch:

[Woodman]

Hmm - Try naming one that hasn't done that? :scratch:

All of them have kept secrets from the public without doubt, but they pale in comparison with the secret 11 herbs and spices.

[oldrider]

All of them have kept secrets from the public without doubt, but they pale in comparison with the secret 11 herbs and spices.

Hmmm -true! - perhaps you're position is from that of an acquired taste - did you have fries with that? :drool:

[Katman]

http://theantimedia.org/panama-papers-end-hillary-clinton/

[oldrider]

http://theantimedia.org/panama-papers-end-hillary-clinton/

Plenty of ammo against current aspirants to USA presidency but Western media is silent - rather focus on Putin????

[pritch]

Not sure of the validity but it sounded good...

Just after the 12.00 noon news today the announcer said that the Panama details are being drip fed by a "journalist's" organisation in the USA which is funded by US corporate interests. Not surprising then that there are no US names. Nor will there be unless Anonymous or somebody goes after them?

[Tazz]

Not sure of the validity but it sounded good...

Just after the 12.00 noon news today the announcer said that the Panama details are being drip fed by a "journalist's" organisation in the USA which is funded by US corporate interests. Not surprising then that there are no US names. Nor will there be unless Anonymous or somebody goes after them?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35966612

[oldrider]

What can Putin teach Crump? - http://brothernathanaelchannel.com/watch_video.php?v=YMMM94O6SWKO - Interesting little comparison between Putin and Crump on leadership?

[oldrider]

The real power behind the USA?

Are elections meaningless window dressing for an increasingly gullible world?

Book review - Masters of Deception by Zander C. Fuerza https://mastersofdeception.wordpress.com/ Warning - Requires independent and free thinking capability!

I.E. Example of manipulating Americans by deception?

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[Banditbandit]

"Donald trump's" children's books .. He's too stupid to know when he's being sent up ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLvEBir9hBc

[yokel]

"Donald trump's" children's books .. He's too stupid to know when he's being sent up ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLvEBir9hBc

Did you post the right vid, or are you a dumbarse anti-Trumper?


I like the bit where the Trump supporters are chanting "There's two genders"

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More on the "SJW"s that don't like Trump.

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[Banditbandit]

Did you post the right vid, or are you a dumbarse anti-Trumper?




Yes I did ...

So you're too stupid to notice when Trump is being sent up as well ..

[yokel]

Yes I did ...

So you're too stupid to notice when Trump is being sent up as well ..

Sent up where??

I bet this is the kinda children's books you'd be into? https://youtu.be/Txx7lPGIZUo?t=1m47s

[mashman]

Obama Dings Hillary on Email Scandal (http://www.newsmax.com/AndrewNapolitano/Email-FBI/2016/04/14/id/723885/)

"Obama has interpreted that duty so as to permit his Department of Justice to prosecute for espionage both a sailor when he took a selfie inside a nuclear submarine and sent it to his girlfriend, and a Marine lieutenant who correctly warned his superiors about an al-Qaida operative masquerading as an Afghan cop in an American encampment, but mistakenly used his Gmail account to send the emergency warning." :killingme...

[pritch]

Taking the long view, it is starting to look as if Kasich could well be the next POTUS. And the Democrat party establishment will have nobody to blame but themselves. Not that they will see it that way

[mashman]

Taking the long view, it is starting to look as if Kasich could well be the next POTUS. And the Democrat party establishment will have nobody to blame but themselves. Not that they will see it that way

Or... Trump and Bernie on the same ticket; take the ride (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/04/12/trump-and-bernie-on-the-same-ticket-take-the-ride/)... now that would be interesting.

[oldrider]

Alls fair in politics and war in USA! - if you can't win - simply adjust it so that you get the result that you want!: :whistle:

http://usuncut.com/politics/something-amiss-new-york/

Then blame Russia etc for being unethical to divert attention away from the truth! :stoogie:

[Katman]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/04/19/voting-is-rigged-used-to-pacify-the-public-says-three-time-us-presidential-candidate-ron-paul/

[Banditbandit]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/04/19/voting-is-rigged-used-to-pacify-the-public-says-three-time-us-presidential-candidate-ron-paul/

Not much new .. read Herman and Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent (1988)

http://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1461108016&sr=1-1&keywords=manufacturing+consent

[Katman]

Not much new .. read Herman and Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent (1988)

No, not a new phenomenon at all.

But at least the fact is now being rammed home to the ignorant masses.

[Banditbandit]

No, not a new phenomenon at all.

But at least the fact is now being rammed home to the ignorant masses.

:rofl:

1 The masses enjoy being ignorant

2 teaching the masses this makes no difference at all ...

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[Grumph]

Twain was correct for his era - but since the rise of the internet and social media, it's harder to convince the masses that something really is fact.

They would sooner buy into conspiracy theories and mis-information. IE, Readily believe that authorities are trying to fool them....

[oldrider]

Twain was correct for his era - but since the rise of the internet and social media, it's harder to convince the masses that something really is fact.

They would sooner buy into conspiracy theories and mis-information.

True - but!

Conspiracy theories are mostly so labelled because it is now much more easy to gather information to enable one to filter out fact from fiction!

Most of the opposition to so called conspiracy theories comes from those who in the past found it quite easy to pull the wool over peoples eyes!

Look closely and generally it is those that have something to hide that scream foul the loudest!

Unfortunately while there is now much more information available - so too is the amount of misleading information - one must choose carefully what to believe! :scratch:

[Banditbandit]

Twain was correct for his era - but since the rise of the internet and social media, it's harder to convince the masses that something really is fact.

They would sooner buy into conspiracy theories and mis-information. IE, Readily believe that authorities are trying to fool them....

That just means that different people are fooling them ...

[oldrider]

That just means that different people are fooling them ...

Not really - neither the deception nor the deceiver has ever changed - it is simply made to look like it is someone else doing it! :scratch:

Voltaire had it sussed! :niceone: - “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- voltaire.

[Katman]

Anti-semite!!!

[mashman]

Anti-semite!!!

Bless you.

[Katman]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/04/21/video-exposes-what-hillary-clinton-really-represents-how-her-political-machine-operates/

[Stylo]

It looks like Obama is the only adult in the playground of USA politics right now, heaven help them.

Actually I'm not sure who can help them, heaven hasn't helped before

[oldrider]

It looks like Obama is the only adult in the playground of USA politics right now, heaven help them.

Actually I'm not sure who can help them, heaven hasn't helped before

How can you say that? - You don't have to look too hard to find God and his chosen people are right there in the mix guiding the outcome of these elections!

:rolleyes: "In God We Trust" is the official motto of the United States". :corn:

[mashman]

"In God We Trust" is the official motto of the United States". :corn:

I think you'll find that it's capitolised ;)

[awa355]

Things are going pear shaped for the Republicans. Trump still winning. :laugh::laugh:

[Stylo]

How can you say that? - You don't have to look too hard to find God and his chosen people are right there in the mix guiding the outcome of these elections!

:rolleyes: "In God We Trust" is the official motto of the United States". :corn:

Exactly, I rest my case. God's 'chosen' people are evidently self appointed and doing a heavenly job of steering all the traffic down a one way street. With a steep down-hill gradient. What happened with Trump today is scary.

[oldrider]

George Carlin - then - 2016 USA election today - spot the difference! :scratch: Nothings going to change this time either!

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[awa355]

Donstoppable! Cruz ends run, Trump wins big in Indiana, closes in on nomination

"When Donny comes marching home again,,, Huraah Huraah"

[Oakie]

I wonder what the child in charge of North Korea makes of it all?

[Shadowjack]

I wonder what the child in charge of North Korea makes of it all?

"I love it when a plan comes together..."

[Stylo]

I wonder what the child in charge of North Korea makes of it all?

He's too busy getting ready for his big party mate

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/kim-jong-un-north-korea-bans-weddings-funerals-freedom-of-movement-party-congress-a7009691.html.

[yokel]

http://i.imgur.com/o4n1gty.png

[Banditbandit]

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[oldrider]

US presidential election number one issue Israel first secure with GOP and Trump - Democrats Saunders still just clinging on in there but Clinton looks safe! Game over!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0XU0TP

Actual election for president and US interests can now contest the crumbs remaining and conclude the public charade. :corn:

[Katman]

US presidential election number one issue Israel first secure with GOP and Trump - Democrats Saunders still just clinging on in there but Clinton looks safe! Game over!

You never know.

The FBI may yet throw a spanner in Hillary's works.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/clinton-should-concede-to-sanders-before-fbi-reveals-findings_b_9836720.html

[jasonu]

I wonder what the child in charge of North Korea makes of it all?

Ask Dennis Rodman...

[Banditbandit]

I wonder what the child in charge of North Korea makes of it all?

http://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/duck-soup-1933/large_bFxealD6vcYr4sPOrJF0pvZ95ff.jpg

[carbonhed]

It's puzzling how a country of 318 million people can regurgitate such an unlovely couple as Hilary and Trump and ask you to "pick one".

Human beans.............

[oldrider]

It's puzzling how a country of 318 million people can regurgitate such an unlovely couple as Hilary and Trump and ask you to "pick one"..

The real power in America? - this interview may (or may not) help - they claim to focus only on and emphasise factual information!

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[Voltaire]

Donald, would get my vote.:2thumbsup

[oldrider]

Donald, would get my vote.:2thumbsup

Why? - Just a question - nothing sinister - like why would you vote for any of them?

[Laava]

Why? - Just a question - nothing sinister - like why would you vote for any of them?

I am starting to change my mind about having him as president. He might attack Isis and north korea as well and do absolute fucking wonders for population control, esp if the nuke strikes were reciprocal

[bogan]

I am starting to change my mind about having him as president. He might attack Isis and north korea as well and do absolute fucking wonders for population control, esp if the nuke strikes were reciprocal

Nukes pretty much defeat the purpose of population control though. Idea is to give earth some breath from the human parasite, not to choke it up with radiation...

[Voltaire]

Why? - Just a question - nothing sinister - like why would you vote for any of them?

I did a google search and no mention of being a reptilian shape shifter, controlled by the the Zionists or the Illuminati, so based on that makes the logical choice.*

























































































































































































































































































































































































































































* I didn't really Google it.
but discovered a new feature on KB :lol:

[Laava]

Nukes pretty much defeat the purpose of population control though. Idea is to give earth some breath from the human parasite, not to choke it up with radiation...

Hmmmmm, maybe we can work on that.....

[oldrider]

Donald, would get my vote.:2thumbsup


Why? - Just a question - nothing sinister - like why would you vote for any of them?


I did a google search and no mention of being a reptilian shape shifter, controlled by the the Zionists or the Illuminati, so based on that makes the logical choice.*








































































































































































































































































































































































































































* I didn't really Google it.
but discovered a new feature on KB :lol:

Expected a logical bit of reasoning but alas your obviously just another KB normalcy waste of space. - mildly disappointed. :whistle:

[Woodman]

Expected a logical bit of reasoning :whistle:


You gotta be kidding right? KB logical reasoning? :facepalm: Very little evidence so far.

Oh and trump is a cock.

[Voltaire]

Expected a logical bit of reasoning but alas your obviously just another KB normalcy waste of space. - mildly disappointed. :whistle:

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Does blank space use up the internet?:laugh:

[oldrider]

You gotta be kidding right? KB logical reasoning? :facepalm: Very little evidence so far.

Oh and trump is a cock.

Trump? - Totally agree! :niceone:


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I'm trying to assist with the dumbing down of KB, your assistance is appreciated.


































































































































































































































Does blank space use up the internet?:laugh:

[Quote]I'm trying to assist with the dumbing down of KB, your assistance is appreciated.[QUOTE]

Your presence alone is worth a million words in that respect! :blip:

[Katman]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/05/06/trump-admits-the-election-is-rigged-id-rather-run-against-crooked-hillary-clinton/

[bbnet]

If I was ever forced to vote, my vote would be for the artistic genius who is Vermin Supreme: (see vid below for his solid platform & prose)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csE

[yokel]

Trump is all about "gender equality" he's going to equally destroy Hitlery like all the other candidates.

Unless he's an undercover feminist turncoat and lets her win because shes a girl?

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[oldrider]

Has anybody seen or heard of any other candidates beside those in the race for GOP and/or Democrat nominations? - Nope - complete MSM silence! :shutup:

Heard about some of them on RT America - thought I'd ask Mr Google? - http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm - the country is a political basket case IMHO! :rolleyes: :corn:

[Voltaire]

My observation of the ones on here who go on about MSM is they post the most drivel.:laugh:

do they think that everyone gets all their information from TV 1 3 and the Herald, their days of in depth journalism are long gone.

[Katman]

do they think that everyone gets all their information from TV 1 3 and the Herald, their days of in depth journalism are long gone.

Not 'everyone' - just the majority.

That's slowly changing though.

Hence why more and more people are questioning what's going on around them - and the 'official' explanation of it all.

[oldrider]

My observation of the ones on here who go on about MSM is they post the most drivel.:laugh:

do they think that everyone gets all their information from TV 1 3 and the Herald, their days of in depth journalism are long gone.

My observation of your observation! - this adage springs to mind - "There are none so blind as those who can but will not see." :cool: - To each his own - your choice! :rolleyes:

[fridayflash]

Trump is Anointed by god to win this campaign...this bloke who was given the prophecy also expects obama to attempt a 3rd term (so he can invoke martial law) despite it being unconstitutional (the third term attempt that is...)



https://youtu.be/tqwFWD_Htfo

[oldrider]

Trump is Anointed by god to win this campaign...this bloke who was given the prophecy also expects obama to attempt a 3rd term (so he can invoke martial law) despite it being unconstitutional (the third term attempt that is...)



https://youtu.be/tqwFWD_Htfo

Don't know anything about that clip but have had a feeling of unease that Obama was going to reappear for an unprecedented 3rd term due to failure of an elected.

Possibly caused by assassination or something like that. - I have posted about it before but have nothing to back it up - just a strong feeling!

The stage is certainly setting for something different this time! :scratch: Then again - America! :facepalm:

[Oscar]

Don't know anything about that clip but have had a feeling of unease that Obama was going to reappear for an unprecedented 3rd term due to failure of an elected.

Possibly caused by assassination or something like that. - I have posted about it before but have nothing to back it up - just a strong feeling!

The stage is certainly setting for something different this time! :scratch: Then again - America! :facepalm:

Jaysus, you do dribble some.

1. A third term would not be "unprecedented", as it has happened before.

2. The 22nd Amendment. enacted in 1947, prevents anyone from serving more that two terms.

[oldrider]

Jaysus, you do dribble some.

1. A third term would not be "unprecedented", as it has happened before.

2. The 22nd Amendment. enacted in 1947, prevents anyone from serving more that two terms.

Thank you Oscar!

OK - obviously a third term would be unprecedented since the amendment of 1947 - semantics! :rolleyes:

[oldrider]

Not everybody it appears believes the Trump miracle is the will of god!

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[Banditbandit]

- http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm - the country is a political basket case IMHO! :rolleyes: :corn:


John Macafee ??? Here's the man and his would-be first lady ...

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[Oscar]

Thank you Oscar!

OK - obviously a third term would be unprecedented since the amendment of 1947 - semantics! :rolleyes:

Since by definition, unprecedented means that it has never happened before, it isn't semantics, but rather your usual stupidity.

Notwithstanding that, please explain how Obama is going to override the constitution.

[pritch]

please explain how Obama is going to override the constitution.

Ignoring the constitution has become commonplace under the last few administrations. Democrats were outraged when Bush was the perpetrator. Republicans are outraged at Obama. Both sides see the advantages of ignoring the constitution when they are in power, so nothing will change until everybody is upset at the same time. Obama seeking a third term should just about ensure that. :whistle:

[Voltaire]

My observation of your observation! - this adage springs to mind - "There are none so blind as those who can but will not see." :cool: - To each his own - your choice! :rolleyes:

Proverbs, can I have a go.

Three blind mice. Three blind mice.
See how they run. See how they run.
They all ran after the farmer's wife,
Who cut off their tails with a carving knife,
Did you ever see such a sight in your life,
As three blind mice

If you a mouse and are blind, don't hang out with other blind mice.:lol:

There is no verse two as hostilities between the Farmers wife and the mice escalated, this may have resulted in the plague.

[oldrider]

Proverbs, can I have a go.

Three blind mice. Three blind mice.
See how they run. See how they run.
They all ran after the farmer's wife,
Who cut off their tails with a carving knife,
Did you ever see such a sight in your life,
As three blind mice

If you a mouse and are blind, don't hang out with other blind mice.:lol:

There is no verse two as hostilities between the Farmers wife and the mice escalated, this may have resulted in the plague.

Well? - Yeah ..... I enjoyed that! - :clap:

[jasonu]

- semantics! :rolleyes:

What does it have to do with the Jews?

[PrincessBandit]

What does it have to do with the Jews?

Ask Axkle....



On another note -
Google: The only president to serve more than two terms was Franklin D. Roosevelt. In 1940 he won the election for his third term. Four years later in 1944, he ran again. He became the only president to be elected to a fourth term.

Obviously the American public couldn't be trusted to vote for who they wanted (too many times in a row if it happened to be the same person). So, not unprecedented, but it hasn't been possible since 1947; you're welcome.

[Voltaire]

This is a depressing but interesting watch if you have Netflix.

Noam Chomsky


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI_Ik7OppEI

[PrincessBandit]

1:14 of that clip - "completely against the will of the population". Sums it up eh.

[mashman]

This is a depressing but interesting watch if you have Netflix.

Noam Chomsky

You're more a Carlin fan incha. Not quite as elegant and level headed as Noam, but he narrates our doom with laughter.

They keep removing the full movie from youtube, but it can be found... and yup, he paints a bleak picture.

Have you seen Varoufakis explain how it's being done? (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/140713-Stupid-World?p=1130970476#post1130970476) Worth a watch I reckon.

[Katman]

Apparently it keeps getting taken down off youtube - so watch it while you can.

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[oldrider]

While American ( and the worlds) attention is on what might happen under the next president?

Obama and the Senate are quietly giving away the silverware but Netanyahu apparently wants more!: http://www.mintpressnews.com/83-senators-demand-obama-boost-aid-israel/215900/ :corn:

Documentary trailer: http://occupationmovie.com/index.html Film: "The occupation of the American mind" Interesting.

[oldrider]

So today it has been declared that Donald Trump is the Republican party candidate to contest for presidency of the USA - what a confidence builder that is :facepalm:

[jasonu]

So today it has been declared that Donald Trump is the Republican party candidate to contest for presidency of the USA - what a confidence builder that is :facepalm:

Are you in favor of Hillary as next prez?

[pritch]

So today it has been declared that Donald Trump is the Republican party candidate to contest for presidency of the USA - what a confidence builder that is :facepalm:

If you think that's bad, wait until he wins the election and becomes President - and "leader of the free world".
Welcome to my nightmare. :whistle:

In Britain, here, and in the USA, a big voter turnout favours the party of the left, a small voter turnout favours the party of the right. Clinton and Trump poll as the two most unpopular Presidential aspirants in the history of the USA. Both have disapproval ratings over 60%. The voters may stay home in droves.

The establishment of the Democrats seems totally commited to Clinton. Athough Clinton was ahead of Trump in the polls, the gap has narrowed to nothing and Trump is now actually ahead in some states. Polls have consistently shown that Sanders would do better against Trump than Clinton. If Trump becomes POTUS the Democrats have nobody to blame but themselves for backing a crippled candidate in Clinton.

I note that although her website announces she will cooperate with the State Dept investigation into her use of a private email server, Clinton and some of her senior staff refused t be interviewed.

[oldrider]

Are you in favor of Hillary as next prez?

NO! - (frying pan fire situation where Hillary is the fire!) There are lots of other candidates that never ever get a mention in MSM. :shutup:

[Swoop]

Are you in favor of Hillary as next prez?

Sadly America is looking at having to call off its next election for President.
Both Trump and Clinton are fucking retarded jokes.

The rest of the world is looking at this, not in a "presidential election" way, but an "American Intelligence Test" way.
It's not looking good so far...

[mashman]

So today it has been declared that Donald Trump is the Republican party candidate to contest for presidency of the USA - what a confidence builder that is :facepalm:

Not really left with much choice. Which, whilst amusing in it's own right, also shows the caliber of candidate that the GOP can field. Good to see in so many ways.

[Voltaire]

with so many of the GOP voters saying they won't vote for Trump and Bernies ones not wanting to vote for Hillary, and with Hilary lagging behind Trump and Bernie leading Trump in the popularity stakes, maybe the email server thing pushes Hillary out and Bernie wins....:rolleyes:

Ronnie had " Born in the USA " as his theme, I think Bill pinched Fleetwood Mac....

For the cream of this election I'm going with LCD Soundsystem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ2np7R-Uwg

[oldrider]

with so many of the GOP voters saying they won't vote for Trump and Bernies ones not wanting to vote for Hillary, and with Hilary lagging behind Trump and Bernie leading Trump in the popularity stakes, maybe the email server thing pushes Hillary out and Bernie wins....:rolleyes:

Ronnie had " Born in the USA " as his theme, I think Bill pinched Fleetwood Mac....

For the cream of this election I'm going with LCD Soundsystem.

https://.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ2np7R-Uwg

Hey - coloured tinfoil - choice! :wings::2thumbsup got to get me some of that! :blip:

[jasonu]

There is talk of a Trump/Bernie debate in Ca. if Bernie agrees. Will be worth a watch.

[Voltaire]

There is talk of a Trump/Bernie debate in Ca. if Bernie agrees. Will be worth a watch.

He's agreed and the Don says he'll loose. As long as Don sticks to name calling, racism,sexism and so on and keeps off any policies he'll be fine.:lol:

[Katman]

Bernie Sanders is the only candidate with anything remotely resembling integrity.

And he has it in spades.

Shame he's not likely to get a shot.

[Swoop]

The Republicans being represented by Ronald McDonald Trump...
:facepalm:



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[Akzle]

y'all bang on about it like it fucken matters. Nothing will change. No jews will be harmed in the making.
Distracto-bullshit.



I note that although her website announces she will cooperate with the State Dept investigation into her use of a private email server, Clinton and some of her senior staff refused t be interviewed.

you're right. There's nothing more important to worry about than fucking mime headers.

[oldrider]

Call - Heads we win - Tails you lose! :innocent:

Toss

Heads - (President Trump) = Zionism/Israel wins - Americans lose! ....... Tails - (President Clinton) = Americans lose - Israel/Zionism wins. . :moon:

[pritch]

There is talk of a Trump/Bernie debate in Ca. if Bernie agrees. Will be worth a watch.

The debate was Sander's suggestion and Trump agreed, then changed his mind. I think this idea might have originated from The Young Turks Network and if they get to host the debate it'll be live on Youtube. Trump may change his mind yet again because it's potentially a win/win for both of them.

Clinton had agreed to have more debates with Sanders but cancelled them because in her mind she has already won the nomination and needs to focus on Trump. A debate that excludes her would be just deserts. I hope it happens.

[pritch]

you're right. There's nothing more important to worry about than fucking mime headers.

Lots of people have private email accounts. Very few have a private email server. The not ureasonable conclusion is that you would only do that if you were trying to hide something?

[Voltaire]

If the Democrats go with Hillary they might not win, despite her winning all the primaries. She has a lot of baggage.

[pritch]

If the Democrats go with Hillary they might not win, despite her winning all the primaries. She has a lot of baggage.

She didn't win all of the primaries, Sanders won a lot. What she has in spades is the super delegates, many of whom have worked with/for her previously.
If enough of them get worried or scared and change their mind Sanders could still possibly be elected candidate at the convention. Something like that happened to her before when her super delegates voted for Obama.

Some of those primaries are exceedingly Mickey Mouse. Politics in this country don't fill my sole with hope but we are waaay better off than they are in the US of A.

[Grumph]

She didn't win all of the primaries, Sanders won a lot. What she has in spades is the super delegates, many of whom have worked with/for her previously.
If enough of them get worried or scared and change their mind Sanders could still possibly be elected candidate at the convention. Something like that happened to her before when her super delegates voted for Obama.

Some of those primaries are exceedingly Mickey Mouse. Politics in this country don't fill my sole with hope but we are waaay better off than they are in the US of A.

Agree, that is a possibilty. Last time round when the Dems chose Obama, most of the world would have been happy with Hilary but they wouldn't choose a woman..I said on a US based forum at the time that i thought Obama had too much baggage with the whole colour thing in the US. Got shouted down to the effect that they'd sooner have a black prez than a woman...Doubt much has changed, they're using her problems as a reason to drop her IMO.
we'll see.

[Voltaire]

She didn't win all of the primaries, Sanders won a lot. What she has in spades is the super delegates, many of whom have worked with/for her previously.
If enough of them get worried or scared and change their mind Sanders could still possibly be elected candidate at the convention. Something like that happened to her before when her super delegates voted for Obama.

Some of those primaries are exceedingly Mickey Mouse. Politics in this country don't fill my sole with hope but we are waaay better off than they are in the US of A.

I meant most...

The whole voting system is Mickey Mouse, its designed to keep the 1%'s interests secure with the illusion of Democracy.

How many Billions is spent to elect what is in essence a figurehead....

I might rebel in the next election and vote Green :rolleyes:

[oldrider]

Unlimited unilateral support for Israel is foremost for every USA presidential candidate or there will be no MSM coverage or support! - So what's in it for America? :scratch:

James David Colonel (USA retired) explains/questions the value of US military aid at the summit to reassess the US - Israel "Special Relationship"!

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Rlr-WPO-LY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Israeli "skunk water spray weapon" being used against Palestinian people and their homes:http://972mag.com/watch-police-spray-putrid-water-on-palestinian-homes-schools/98840/

[Akzle]

Lots of people have private email accounts. Very few have a private email server. The not ureasonable conclusion is that you would only do that if you were trying to hide something?

actually a lot of people have their own web/mail servers.

you can buy yourself server space for very cheap. hell, you can plug a $40 raspberry pi in at home and run a mail server. a FQDN is all of $20/yr.
you may be unhappy with google et al's data mining, you may believe in the "right to be forgotten", the ability to backup, distribute, delete messages or content, you may believe in guaranteed uptime, PGP, encryption...

the not unreasonable conclusion is that as a "free human" she has the right to use things she can buy as she deems fit.

it has been ruled that "email is not private communication" (thanks NSA), but seriously, is she supposed to CC the fucken media on every message she sends??

[oldrider]

Some alternative Trump information as he plays his part in the great American election deception:http://henrymakow.com/donald_trump_is_masonic_false.html

As they say you just can't judge a book by it's cover! :oi-grr:

[Voltaire]

As they say you just can't judge a book by it's cover! :oi-grr:

In Henry's case you probably can.:laugh:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Henry_Makow

Why do all the Zioininsts/911/Illuminatti 'theorists' come off looking like nut jobs.....(probably made to look like this by the Zionist/911/Illuminati masters.)

[Katman]

In Henry's case you probably can.:laugh:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Henry_Makow

Why do all the Zioininsts/911/Illuminatti 'theorists' come off looking like nut jobs.....(probably made to look like this by the Zionist/911/Illuminati masters.)

And yet you happily swallow the ramblings of anyone who sets about ridiculing those who question what they're being told.

Stupid world.

[Voltaire]

And yet you happily swallow the ramblings of anyone who sets about ridiculing those who question what they're being told.

Stupid world.


Clearly if I don't buy into the conspiracy theories I must by default believe what the MSM tell me.:facepalm:

Stupid Provincials.

[Katman]

Clearly if I don't buy into the conspiracy theories I must by default believe what the MSM tell me.:facepalm:

Stupid Provincials.

People like yourself are happy to accuse others of simply parroting someone else's opinion.

And yet you fail to recognise the extreme ironing of quoting an open edit site like Rational Wiki - where you wouldn't have a fucking clue who's opinion you're parroting.

[Voltaire]

People like yourself are happy to accuse others of simply parroting someone else's opinion.

And yet you fail to recognise the extreme ironing of quoting an open edit site like Rational Wiki - where you wouldn't have a fucking clue who's opinion you're parroting.


"People like yourself"

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/7b/54/347b54bcb7af4c140fe0eadd2a3f383c.jpg

I hope your customers aren't paying you to waste time on the internet :yawn:

[EJK]

So far I can understand Bernie's and McDonalds Trump's idealism and direction but not Hilary (cause she's a woman?). Would someone be so kind to summarise these three, please?

Bernie
Pros/ Cons

Trump
Pros/ Cons

Hilary
Pros/ Cons

[oldrider]

In Henry's case you probably can.:laugh:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Henry_Makow

Why do all the Zioininsts/911/Illuminatti 'theorists' come off looking like nut jobs.....(probably made to look like this by the Zionist/911/Illuminati masters.)

I don't really disagree with your sentiments except that I reserve the right to consider what all the other nut jobs beside yourself have to offer!

The one thing that is constant is the manipulation of the worlds populations into unnecessary war and misery controlled by someone or something!

I would like to know who and why and even though there is nothing I can do about it it still behoves me to enquire - even though curiosity killed the cat!

[Oscar]

Some alternative Trump information as he plays his part in the great American election deception:http://henrymakow.com/donald_trump_is_masonic_false.html

As they say you just can't judge a book by it's cover! :oi-grr:

I got as far as "..Illuminati Jewish masters..".
What a sad little twat you are to believe crap like this from scum like Makow.

I suppose the fact that you believe that there is a conspiracy running the world excuses you from tedious tasks like thinking for yourself and self determination.

Which leads me to a question, do you let the interweb do all your thinking for you?
Do you consult the anti-semite oracle before taking a crap?

[oldrider]

I got as far as "..Illuminati Jewish masters..".
What a sad little twat you are to believe crap like this from scum like Makow.

I suppose the fact that you believe that there is a conspiracy running the world excuses you from tedious tasks like thinking for yourself and self determination.

Which leads me to a question, do you let the interweb do all your thinking for you?
Do you consult the anti-semite oracle before taking a crap?

What a bloody idiot you are! - You think everything in this world must be according to Oscar! - I have a mind of my own and make my own decisions!

For one thing I have never said I believe anything but that does not prevent me considering whatever is being said offered as opinion or fact!

You are the most bigoted opinionated twit I have ever come across but I still like to consider what you have to say as even you may have something to offer!

[Oscar]

What a bloody idiot you are! - You think everything in this world must be according to Oscar! - I have a mind of my own and make my own decisions!

For one thing I have never said I believe anything but that does not prevent me considering whatever is being said offered as opinion or fact!

You are the most bigoted opinionated twit I have ever come across but I still like to consider what you have to say as even you may have something to offer!

Jeez, you start out looking like a village idiot and just go downhill from there, don't you?
You post bigoted and anti-semitic crap and as soon as you're challenged you back off.
That means that you are either a nasty troll or a gutless twat.
Which one is it then?

[oldrider]

Jeez, you start out looking like a village idiot and just go downhill from there, don't you?
You post bigoted and anti-semitic crap and as soon as you're challenged you back off.
That means that you are either a nasty troll or a gutless twat.
Which one is it then?

FYI I am not in the habit of backing off anything or anyone especially a dog eared prick like you!

What is or is not anti-Semitic is open to interpretation depending whether or not the one making the judgement is Jew or non Jew.

From a Jewish point of view "any thought or comment" by a non Jew (Goy) is automatically anti-Semitic - it's part and parcel of their victim identity!

I post what I believe is something that may be of interest to those who may not have seen it so that they can choose to ignore it, read it, consider it or examine it!

It's there for consideration by free choice - something that you have no appreciation for but still your reaction is your choice so I put up with your style of bigotry!

If you want to portray yourself as a typically nasty keyboard warrior - go ahead you are not important to me!

[Oscar]

FYI I am not in the habit of backing off anything or anyone especially a dog eared prick like you!

What is or is not anti-Semitic is open to interpretation depending whether or not the one making the judgement is Jew or non Jew.

From a Jewish point of view "any thought or comment" by a non Jew (Goy) is automatically anti-Semitic - it's part and parcel of their victim identity!

I post what I believe is something that may be of interest to those who may not have seen it so that they can choose to ignore it, read it, consider it or examine it!

It's there for consideration by free choice - something that you have no appreciation for but still your reaction is your choice so I put up with your style of bigotry!

If you want to portray yourself as a typically nasty keyboard warrior - go ahead you are not important to me!

So what you're saying is that you post stuff that you may or may not believe for people to consider.
Stuff that has a constant anti-Semitic theme...

And now you're saying you're an authority on what Jews believe to be anti-Semitic?
Which is basically any thought that a non-Jew has?

Also for your edification, and to prove that you are correct, why don't you send this comment by email to the Race Relations Commissioner and see what happens:

From a Jewish point of view "any thought or comment" by a non Jew (Goy) is automatically anti-Semitic - it's part and parcel of their victim identity!

Go on, big man, do it.

[oldrider]

So what you're saying is that you post stuff that you may or may not believe for people to consider.
Stuff that has a constant anti-Semitic theme...

And now you're saying you're an authority on what Jews believe to be anti-Semitic?
Which is basically any thought that a non-Jew has?

Also for your edification, and to prove that you are correct, why don't you send this comment by email to the Race Relations Commissioner and see what happens:


Go on, big man, do it.

Childish cunt! - :sick:

[Akzle]

So far I can understand Bernie's and McDonalds Trump's idealism and direction but not Hilary (cause she's a woman?). Would someone be so kind to summarise these three, please?

Bernie
Pros/ Cons

Trump
Pros/ Cons

Hilary
Pros/ Cons

you don't seem to have grasped that the name at the top is irrelevant.

pros=none

cons=jews

x3

[Oscar]

Childish cunt! - :sick:

Nuthin' childish about it.
You posted it, now back it up.
Maybe you could send it to the PM's office or the Israeli Embassy as well?

I'm sure they'd respect your obvious authority on the subject.

[Katman]

<img src="http://www.trueorthodox.com/pictures/ijp.jpg"/>

[oldrider]

Clearly if I don't buy into the conspiracy theories I must by default believe what the MSM tell me.:facepalm:

Stupid Provincials.

Following WW2 as a lad I was extremely interested in how such events could ever occur - how could one man turn a whole nation against one minority group etc!

These things were all very fresh in the minds of people in those times although written material was very difficult to acquire and filtering bullshit was laborious!

That was seventy odd years ago and the people who experienced the events have all but died out now and their experiences are mostly lost.

The internet has made information plentiful and easy to acquire now but unfortunately the task of filtering bullshit has increased enormously!

Another effect of the internet is how it polarises opinions into extreme immovable camps that are only waiting to bombard each other with mountains of crap!

OK so I have not learned how to use the internet effectively and only add confusion to the already confused by raising and posting sensitive material for perusal.

History is fact and while it cannot be changed perceptions can be changed by misrepresentation of the facts until recorded history its self is changed completely!

Way back before WW1 all this was the future and there prophesy followed by fulfilment today we have the same prophesies and their fulfilments ahead of us!

We can measure the past by the facts but the future is all prophesy and we will be part of the fulfilment of those prophesies especially our children and grandchildren!

An interesting prophesy has been attributed to one Albert Pike in the Three World Wars! - (WW3 between Islam and Zionism - followed with The New World Order)

Although most of this prophesy has happened and the rest is apparently unfolding before our very eyes here is a link denouncing the whole thing as a fraud.

http://wideshut.co.uk/albert-pikes-3-world-wars-letter-hoax-wideshut-webcast/

And here is a link to a site specialising in the three world wars: http://www.threeworldwars.com/index.html :corn:

[Banditbandit]

Three New York surgeons were playing golf together and discussing surgeries they had performed.

One of them said, 'I'm the best surgeon in the state. In my favourite case, a concert pianist lost seven fingers in an accident; I re-attached them, and 8 months later he performed a private concert for the Queen of England'.

The second surgeon said. 'That's nothing. A young man lost an arm and both legs in an accident; I reattached them, and 2 years later he won a gold Medal in track and field events in the Olympics'.

The third surgeon said, 'You guys are amateurs. Several years ago a man was high on cocaine and marijuana and he rode a horse head-on into a train, travelling 80 miles an hour. All I had left to work with was the man's blonde hair and the horse's ass.

I was able to put them together and now he's running for president of the USA'!

[oldrider]

Nice one BB - That story could apply to both the so called preferred candidates Trump or Clinton! :lol: - (Puppet presidents - just someone to blame!)

I wonder how long it will be before Iran resembles Gaza - should either Trump or Clinton become President? :scratch:

[oldrider]

Adage: If you don't know where you are going - how will you know when you get there? :confused:

Could this be a road map to our future? - check it out - you be the judge! :scratch:

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[mashman]

Is the CIA getting ready to dump the Clintons? (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/06/03/is-the-cia-getting-ready-to-dump-the-clintons/)

[oldrider]

US Presidential (Congress et al) total allegiance to AIPAC and Israel even ahead of USA interests? = hello United States of Israel - goodbye United States of America?

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[EJK]

Can anybody enlighten me why people vote for Hilary? What are her "promises/ vision"?

[Katman]

What are her "promises/ vision"?

To further strengthen the power of the global elite.

(In other words, quite the opposite of Bernie Sanders).

[Doppleganger]

Cant believe the choice America has to make, both are train wrecks waiting to happen

[Banditbandit]

Can anybody enlighten me why people vote for Hilary? What are her "promises/ vision"?

No clues .. I don't have a vote so I don't have to look at their shit ..

[yokel]

Apparently Stephen Hawkin is "baffled" by Donald Trump's rise http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/31/physicist-stephen-hawking-baffled-by-donald-trumps-rise/

gee if he can't work it out then no one can??

How fucking stupid is the MSM.

Poor Bernie the sexist.

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[oldrider]

No clues .. I don't have a vote so I don't have to look at their shit ..

But like it or not you are effected by it and (like everybody else) have probably been conditioned to simply accept it without question!

Test your subconscious: You will probably be automatically repulsed at the video clip below but do you actually know why you react like that? - :scratch:


<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/-iU9kf2EHJw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[yokel]

But like it or not you are effected by it and (like everybody else) have probably been conditioned to simply accept it without question!

Test your subconscious: You will probably be automatically repulsed at the video clip below but do you actually know why you react like that? - :scratch:




The fact is weak minded people are shit scared of being called racist,sexist or heavin forbid a anti-Semite!

It's all about fear and shame and makes people stupid.

[EJK]

So..... It's now either Trump or Hilary, is it?

[husaberg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJpWOY3r18


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7UcQcD9INI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrqqQAfenUo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37zvOZ17eSE

[yokel]

What kind of neutered moron would listen The Young Turks?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bO1G22OI9m0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Dry balls Obama "destroys" Trump!

Good bye president Teleprompter.

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[Swoop]

So..... It's now either Trump or Hilary, is it?

Sadly so. "dumb" V's dumber".
This election should be declared "void" due to no intelligent options being available to the voting public... HM The Queen shall reestablish sovereignty over the Colony due to the lack of American intelligence being demonstrated.

[SPman]

No matter who the American president is, he or she will not stop the juggernaut of American invasions, drone bombings, spying, resource plundering, environmental destruction, economic domination, meddling, forcing it's laws on other sovereign countries and political disruption. America's escalating belligerence is either whitewashed or more often simply not a topic for discussion over there, even in the midst of Presidential campaigns.
So...therefore...basically who gives a fuck!

I don't.

[Katman]

No matter who the American president is, he or she will not stop the juggernaut of American invasions, drone bombings, spying, resource plundering, environmental destruction, economic domination, meddling, forcing it's laws on other sovereign countries and political disruption. America's escalating belligerence is either whitewashed or more often simply not a topic for discussion over there, even in the midst of Presidential campaigns.
So...therefore...basically who gives a fuck!

I don't.

Trouble is, they're taking the rest of us with them.

So yeah, I give a fuck.

[oldrider]

No matter who the American president is, he or she will not stop the juggernaut of American invasions, drone bombings, spying, resource plundering, environmental destruction, economic domination, meddling, forcing it's laws on other sovereign countries and political disruption. America's escalating belligerence is either whitewashed or more often simply not a topic for discussion over there, even in the midst of Presidential campaigns.
So...therefore...basically who gives a fuck!

I don't.

True! - It is tempting not to want to give a fuck when you seem unable to do the slightest thing about it but I do not believe that is actually the real you!

Now that I am retired less fit and able I do try to use the time I have to understand why this is continuing to happen - I.E. which invisible force is the true cause?

This American presidential election is certainly throwing up a lot of clues as to who is really in control and it is certainly not either of the "proffered" candidates!


Trouble is, they're taking the rest of us with them.

So yeah, I give a fuck.

The distraction is that the subject polarises us so that we turn on each other and attack each other and so let the culprits do their will unimpeded!

I.E. - A fighting B for the benefit of C - oldest trick in the book but it always works for them!

The advent of the internet has made it easier for them but if we are careful we can use it to effect too!

I note: One leader has repeatedly proclaimed lately that if he doesn't get his own way and comes under threat he will take the world down with him!

I find that statement both revealing and psychopathic and it begs the question - does he have the power to accomplish it? - unfortunately yes he does! :corn:

[mashman]

Trouble is, they're taking the rest of us with them.

So yeah, I give a fuck.

+1...............

[EJK]

Trouble is, they're taking the rest of us with them.

So yeah, I give a fuck.

During earlier times of 2016 presidential campaign I'd make jokes (I'm on KiwiBiker after all) like "I want to see Trump become president so I can watch America divide by itself!" or "I want to see a president get assassinated!" but things are turning more serious and it's beyond laughing matter.

Especially after Orlando shooting numb nut Americans are supporting Trump stronger than before. Pretty scary actually.

[oldrider]

During earlier times of 2016 presidential campaign I'd make jokes (I'm on KiwiBiker after all) like "I want to see Trump become president so I can watch America divide by itself!" or "I want to see a president get assassinated!" but things are turning more serious and it's beyond laughing matter.

Especially after Orlando shooting numb nut Americans are supporting Trump stronger than before. Pretty scary actually.

Just how significant is this American presidential candidates grovelling to Israel (AIPAC) as the most important factor of the election?

Link:https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/03/22/aipa-m22.html

Even to committing to the escalation of war in the Middle East after the elections? - Read this last paragraph taken from the above article!

[QUOTE] The speeches of all of the presidential candidates make clear that what is being prepared after the November elections is an escalation of war in the Middle East and beyond. [UNQUOTE] ----- Every one of them?

[Oscar]

;1130978013]Just how significant is this American presidential candidates grovelling to Israel (AIPAC) as the most important factor of the election?

Link:https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/03/22/aipa-m22.html

Even to committing to the escalation of war in the Middle East after the elections? - Read this last paragraph taken from the above article!

The speeches of all of the presidential candidates make clear that what is being prepared after the November elections is an escalation of war in the Middle East and beyond. ----- Every one of them?

And like most of your stuff here, that quote is completely unsupported by the article in which it appears, or indeed anything I've heard the candidates say.

Just coz Hillary said:
"Well, my friends, Israel’s security is non-negotiable.”
Does not mean that a war is about to start.

[mashman]

Does not mean that a war is about to start.

$40 billion aid to Israel is 'largest ever' to any country, says Susan Rice (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/06/14/40-billion-aid-to-Israel-is-largest-ever-to-any-country-says-Susan-Rice/5461465914964/)

meanwhile on the other side of the fence... and somewhat massively ironical

Multi-million pound foreign aid grant spent on encouraging terrorism (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/multi-million-pound-foreign-aid-grant-spent-on-encouraging-terro/)

Just sabre rattling eh.

[oldrider]

Just coz Hillary said:
"Well, my friends, Israel’s security is non-negotiable.”
Does not mean that a war is about to start.

Well cast your eyes across this lot and see nothing here too! https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/06/14/nato-j14.html . :cool:

And this lot from dearest peace-nick Hillary: https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpress.com/2016/05/15/killary-clinton-if-im-president-we-will-attack-iran-for-israel-we-would-be-able-to-totally-obliterate-them/ (Iran doesn't have a federal reserve bank = war crime?)

[oldrider]

And like most of your stuff here, that quote is completely unsupported by the article in which it appears, or indeed anything I've heard the candidates say.

Just coz Hillary said:
"Well, my friends, Israel’s security is non-negotiable.”
Does not mean that a war is about to start.

OK so why does Hillary run off at the mouth about Iran? - a suck up to vested US interests that she is their man for the job? - pick me pick me? - I can do it! :headbang:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-falsely-calls-iran-leading-state-sponsor-of-terrorism/5529451?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles - Who is it wants Iran smashed the most? - Bibi Netanyahu and Israel? - :yes:

[Oscar]

..........
https://scontent.fakl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13428509_1592339771063498_2146712864187727253_n.jp g?oh=55bdb3165d4b11b776f22ad844f99f01&oe=5803C89F

[yokel]

And what happens when the actual perpetrators are Jews e.g. 9/11 ?

[oldrider]

..........
Oscar's chart

Sure looks like that from here anyway! :wacko:

[mashman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cza0IY1h6VI

[Akzle]

Can anybody enlighten me why people vote for Hilary? What are her "promises/ vision"?

who ever votes for anyone, ever?

( a: fuckwits who dont want to take responsibility for their lives)

[Akzle]

During earlier times of 2016 presidential campaign I'd make jokes (I'm on KiwiBiker after all) like "I want to see Trump become president so I can watch America divide by itself!" or "I want to see a president get assassinated!" but things are turning more serious and it's beyond laughing matter.

Especially after Orlando shooting numb nut Americans are supporting Trump stronger than before. Pretty scary actually.

do you ever stop to consider who fills the trough infront of your snout?

[Akzle]

And like most of your stuff here, that quote is completely unsupported by the article in which it appears, or indeed anything I've heard the candidates say.

Just coz Hillary said:
"Well, my friends, Israel’s security is non-negotiable.”
Does not mean that a war is about to start.

start??!
You really are a nignorant old fuck.

What business should israel's "security" be of one of the most psychotic "superpowers".??

[Akzle]

And what happens when the actual perpetrators are Jews e.g. 9/11 ?

trooooolloololololololoool

[Oscar]

start??!
You really are a nignorant old fuck.

What business should israel's "security" be of one of the most psychotic "superpowers".??

Rude people don't get cake.

Use your inside voice.

[Katman]

Rude people don't get cake.

I beg to differ.

Fuckstick.

[oldrider]

Political pot kettle black - all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put Ali together again

Staggering collection of political opportunism at that funeral! :rolleyes:

[Oscar]

I beg to differ.

Fuckstick.

You don't need to beg.
You are very different.

Twat.

[Akzle]

Rude people don't get cake.

Use your inside voice.

i'll take that as "i have nothing, i cant justify the jew shit and can't cry antisemitic so i'll bow out with irrelevant cake comments"

[Akzle]

I beg to differ.

Fuckstick.

rasberry sounds fucking delectable. You really must send me your recipe. I have a couple of ounces spare.

[Oscar]

i'll take that as "i have nothing, i cant justify the jew shit and can't cry antisemitic so i'll bow out with irrelevant cake comments"

If you don't know the answer to that question, you should really get out more.

I would have thought that irrelevant comments were right up your alley?

And calling you antisemitic would be like calling Katman stupid - redundant as it's obvious to all.

[puddytat]

There's a moon in the sky....its called the Moon. It affects people seemingly.

[mashman]

Staggering collection of political opportunism at that funeral! :rolleyes:

You have to be able to say you were there :facepalm:

[Banditbandit]

https://themighty.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/CNhuv_3WoAAP9mE.jpg

[oldrider]

Found this post - backs up what Trump is saying - and note the law already exists just not enacted! :eek:

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/off-topic/53275-islam-law-prohibited-us-immigration.html?utm_source=Dr+Sircus+Newsletter&utm_campaign=dfd330f700-Article_374_6_14_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ea98c09673-dfd330f700-9531509

[Katman]

Found this post - backs up what Trump is saying - and note the law already exists just not enacted! :eek:

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/off-topic/53275-islam-law-prohibited-us-immigration.html?utm_source=Dr+Sircus+Newsletter&utm_campaign=dfd330f700-Article_374_6_14_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ea98c09673-dfd330f700-9531509

Very telling Avatar that Ringo is sporting there.

[oldrider]

What planet does David Icke come from? - This could never happen in our world - could it? :confused: Could American/world politics actually be controlled? :rolleyes:

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[Oscar]

What planet does David Icke come from? - This could never happen in our world - could it? :confused: Could American/world politics actually be controlled? :rolleyes:



David Icke?!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Really?

You are so gullible and stupid it's pathetic.

Does he mention his idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood is trying to take over the world?
And that the highest level of this are called the "Red Dresses"?
Or how about that in 1991 he announced that he was a "Son of the Godhead"?

You can't make this stuff up....you idiot.

[Voltaire]

What planet does David Icke come from? - This could never happen in our world - could it? :confused: Could American/world politics actually be controlled? :rolleyes:

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David Icke :yawn:
I used to enjoy a bit of conspiracy stuff...Chariot of the Gods....Hitler is still alive and so on....the Bible and so on....

I suppose wacky theories about aliens running the show are no more wacky that believing that some being created the world and when we die you get to go to his place, and if you a big fan you can take the express lane with a bonus of Virgins!!

[oldrider]

David Icke?!:laugh::laugh::laugh: Really?

Once again Oscar jumps to conclusions because he doesn't read very well and is such a natural bigoted arrogant oaf! :facepalm:


David Icke :yawn:
I used to enjoy a bit of conspiracy stuff...Chariot of the Gods....Hitler is still alive and so on....the Bible and so on....

I suppose wacky theories about aliens running the show are no more wacky that believing that some being created the world and when we die you get to go to his place, and if you a big fan you can take the express lane with a bonus of Virgins!!

True! - I used to wonder why he was still alive but I guess he is a useful tool to flood the conspiracy theorist market with discreditable trash!

Helps hide any real issues that crop up too.

[Oscar]

Once again Oscar jumps to conclusions because he doesn't read very well and is such a natural bigoted arrogant oaf! :facepalm:



True! - I used to wonder why he was still alive but I guess he is a useful tool to flood the conspiracy theorist market with discreditable trash!

Helps hide any real issues that crop up too.

You posted it, you twat.

Now you're saying that he's a conspiracy theorist planted as a conspiracy by the man to keep conspiracy theorists busy?

That pretty much sums up idiots like you.

[oldrider]

You posted it, you twat.

Now you're saying that he's a conspiracy theorist planted as a conspiracy by the man to keep conspiracy theorists busy?

That pretty much sums up idiots like you.

Oscar you are a complete idiot not worth communicating with good bye! :bye:

[Oscar]

Oscar you are a complete idiot not worth communicating with good bye! :bye:

As long as you're posting bigoted shit, I'll be here.

Tell us about the "Myth of anti-Semitism".

[Katman]

As long as you're posting bigoted shit, I'll be here.



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[Oscar]

<img src="http://danpandrea.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/922c7_ORIG-internet_police.jpg"/>

You shouldn't use your own picture on your memes.

[husaberg]

What planet does David Icke come from? - >
When you need to post David Icke you are really without logic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w2dMekIJLw

[yokel]

David Icke?!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Really?

You are so gullible and stupid it's pathetic.

Does he mention his idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood is trying to take over the world?
And that the highest level of this are called the "Red Dresses"?
Or how about that in 1991 he announced that he was a "Son of the Godhead"?

You can't make this stuff up....you idiot.

Speaking of "gullible and stupid" tell me about the 6 million jews that disappeared into smoke or 19 dune coons armed with box cutters that manipulated the direction of the world to where we are now?

I now wait for your bigoted response.

[Oscar]

Speaking of "gullible and stupid" tell me about the 6 million jews that disappeared into smoke or 19 dune coons armed with box cutters that manipulated the direction of the world to where we are now?

I now wait for your bigoted response.

I'm not about to debate your fantasies you sick cunt.
On to ignore you go.

[yokel]

I'm not about to debate your fantasies you sick fuck.
On to ignore you go.

ignorance is bliss.

[Voltaire]

The truth is out there....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIqMjSKmPo0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLBWIi3ykxk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcUOVytK2ZA

It must be true as its got a video clip.:laugh:

[oldrider]

The media - -what did Putin actually say about Trump?

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[oldrider]

As long as you're posting bigoted shit, I'll be here.

Found this - thought of you immediately Oscar - http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/israeli-brussels-connection-made-in-israel/ Something for you to do? :scratch: Check it out! :niceone:

[bogan]

Found this - thought of you immediately Oscar - http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/israeli-brussels-connection-made-in-israel/ Something for you to do? :scratch: Check it out! :niceone:

Why would you give him more evidence to show conspiracy theorists are colossal morons? :scratch:

"Is there an Israeli Brussels connection behind the recent Brussels attack of March 22nd 2016? Whenever an event like this occurs, we not only need to ask ourselves whether it was a false flag attack. We also need to investigate who was behind it, and specifically, whether the clues lead back to Rothschild Zionism and Israel."

Since you're probably too far gone with bigoted rage; I'll spell it out; any unbiased investigative practice would never start by asking (in the absence of any evidence towards), did this specific bloke/group/race do it?

[oldrider]

Why would you give him more evidence to show conspiracy theorists are colossal morons? :scratch:

"Is there an Israeli Brussels connection behind the recent Brussels attack of March 22nd 2016? Whenever an event like this occurs, we not only need to ask ourselves whether it was a false flag attack. We also need to investigate who was behind it, and specifically, whether the clues lead back to Rothschild Zionism and Israel."

Since you're probably too far gone with bigoted rage; I'll spell it out; any unbiased investigative practice would never start by asking (in the absence of any evidence towards), did this specific bloke/group/race do it?

Your name Oscar?

[bogan]

Your name Oscar?

Was it a PM?

As usual, any old excuse to stiffle or avoid discussing opinions that differ from you own eh Oldy. Learn some new tricks will ya!

[Katman]

As usual, any old excuse to stiffle or avoid discussing opinions that differ from you own eh Oldy.

You and Oscar are two of the worst offenders for trying to stifle discussion.

[husaberg]

Your name Oscar?
Is your name bigoted old non motorbike owner............

In answer to Oscar and husaburg constantly claiming that I do not answer their questions of how Hitler financed Germany out of poverty to being another world power.

A world industrial and military power that took almost the rest of the world combined to defeat them.

Because I have posted this it does not mean that I am anti Jew!


It simply means that there are other explanations than that which is constantly rammed own our throat by the status quo! - read and judge for yourselves!
.


Maybe you might want to post some actual facts then rather than pasting in a series opinions you agree with.
It is a fact Germany was on the verge of collapse due to Hitler's spending and inability to pay back the debt they accrued with "Think big projects"
Hitlers Government never made war reparation payments, in fact the payments were suspended indefinitely to avoid a war by the allies themselves, (that never worked did it)
Goering himself said Germany was bankrupt.

As for hyperinflation control, in a way yes but they made the workers basically slaves to their employers, able to be brought and sold and unable to leave employment to a better paying job without their employers permission.
They also basically blackmailed the free market with the threat of death or imprisonment. This was not some form of utopia like you are making it out to be their oldie.



But of course silly me - your explanation would account for why Hitler was so popular with his German people - he treated them so badly! - Yeah right! :rolleyes:



No one is arguing with you it's just a book written by Adolf Hitler and you are (presumably) quoting from it - OK for you to read, hasn't harmed you then? :rolleyes:



Many posters on KB refer to Hitler and Mein Kampf etc but have never seen or read it and have very little understanding about real German Jewish history or WW2!

Here is "Mein Kampf" for free: http://www.radicalpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Adolf-Hitler-Mein-Kampf-english-translation-unexpurgated-1939-copy-2.pdf



Well you could begin by listening to some other opinions points of view or historic facts about German history under Hitler such as this for example:
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkenkfRTn4c

he does offer an alternative presentation to that of the mainstream media of the Western world for "consideration" by those who are interested in true history!

Follow the money? :scratch: Try following these tracks -------------------------- USA - Israel - Jesuits - Zionism - Western Judeo-Christianity!

Explanation? - Look here: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0304/prager_2004_03_30_04.php3 and there the answer might just be! :thud: In a word "religion"!

Meanwhile - Take a good look at the make-up of the USA congress and it's critical backers!

Western Judeo Christianity beyond America? - Old adage: "All roads lead to Rome" - White Popes - Black Popes - banking history? - Follow the money! :yes:


You missed the point as usual - it is the Americans that believe it - that's how they justify being talked into believing their wars are God's work and just! :facepalm:

Where do I get this crap from? - http://www.jewishworldreview.com - your friendly Jewish publishers - you know - the ones you protect from bigots like me. :Oops:


The rhetoric you posted is the exact same as Nazi propaganda from 75 years ago only merely twisted to suit.

.




What on earth are you smoking? - moving right along and in the real world. :rofl:


All dependent upon protection by the myth of anti-Semitism and the ignorance of the masses! (Goyim - non Jew etc) Still stronger than ever today! :confused:

Hitler's Germany dared to expose them by controlling Germany's own money system and are still paying the price for that "crime" today!

Thanks again to mass ignorance of the Gentile or non Jew and the perpetuation of the anti-Semitic myth! :zzzz: Time to wake up? :shit:


OK.

Who mentioned the Protocols of Zion?

Hitler said in his Mien Kampf (before he came to power) that he would expel the Jews from Germany so why did they finance him into power?

His financial backers obviously were confident that they could control him - they had their own men in strategic positions but Hitler dismissed them!

Once in power he commenced the expulsion - that alone was treating Jews bad esp from a Jewish point of view - it steadily deteriorated as attitudes changed pressure came onto Germany and they couldn't ship them to Palestine and had too many in the camps! (A recipe for disaster at it's best)

You made this ridiculous assertion not me: So they could use this an excuse to start and fund further wars.

And this one: Also the Zionists whose only religion (as you make out is money and power) only wanted these same people to move to the middle east to destabilise it in the future.

I did try to say that without Hitler (and or the war) - why would normal happy people living the good life in Germany (or Europe) go to live in the new promised land?

That has to be a no brainer - it took something catastrophic like those events just to get the ball rolling - think long about that!


that's a very long post forgive me if it takes a while to reply to everything
So just so that I attempt to follow your logic.
Hitler's belief in the protocols of Zion had nothing to do with his treatment of the Jews?

The Germans only actually started treating the Jews bad during the war and not before?

Hitler was in your opinion mealy manipulated into the murder of millions of them by the Zionists themselves actions?
So they could use this an excuse to start and fund further wars.

Also the Zionists whose only religion (as you make out is money and power) only wanted these same people to move to the middle east to destabilise it in the future.

Remembering that the most powerful country in the world and acclaimed conqueror of the evil Hitler in WW2 is currently about to hold an election for president!

Watch and listen to this video clip and judge for yourself

How does the world today stack up against what Hitler did for his world? - Compare: https://youtu.be/froTxqKSqc4

Why would his followers stand by him to the bitter end if he was as bad as is claimed? - Today's world should win by a country mile - shouldn't it? :scratch:

Thank God we were saved from Hitler. :shifty: - Will the new president of the world (USA) continue to keep us safe? :corn:



So are you suggesting no one else has told you what you have posted is racist on KB then Oldie

Think on that while you avoid the questions some more. Also take a moment to consider what motivates you to post the same bigoted one sided rubbish over and over again.



What other reason you post the bigoted shit No idea.
If you are meaning who also has said you are racist Bogan, Oscar, mstriumph, Rainman likely heaps more also have and do call you a racist or a bigot.


Well you've been better of late, but you got labeled as such for bullshit like saying "90% of the worlds finances are controlled by Jews" which I believe is more or less a direct quote, and it was in the context of financial oppression etc; and you backed it up by just saying, it's gotta be around that I reckon.

If you think that is the same as someone saying that some zionist's are terrorists/commit crimes against humanity/war crimes/evil/shitcunts; you need your fucking head read.



Also you still haven't dished up your proof on the "myth of anti-Semitism " you ignorant old bigot.


Truth hurts eh. Perhaps instead of being dark about being called an anti-semitic bigot, you could make an attempt to stop being one :scratch:

- I say it and I am branded anti-Semitic!.


You generally seem to be a grown-up, but ranting like the above just makes you look like a jerk and a bigot. What's the point?.



on being a bigot - what inferences you draw are your concern. from your posts I infer that you are a tad one-eyed about Israel; hence my sending you up. that sort of tunnel vision CAN imply bigotry - suggest if the cap fits ........... :shifty:

Don't worry if other racist bigots like Yokel Axkel or Katman say you are not a racist that will prove you are not.:killingme



I have good reason for posting what I do but the like of you and your silly mates simply distort any intentions because of your own obvious bigotry!

That is your prerogative but your style of trying to overpower every thread with your cut and paste bully tactics to push your own agenda lacks class or interest!

I guess you are one of those people who simply have no other life - whatever smokes your tyres mate struggle on! - Me? - I don't really care too much!


So you seriously think that you twits going on, (in practically every post practically every day), about a Jewish conspiracy running and destroying the world, that is co-incidentally the exact same twaddle that the Nazis peddled makes you someone valid.
Bully tactics that's pretty rich considering you are the one attempting to persecute minorities.
Maybe you should complain to the race relations commission by sure to include your own posts and see what they say about your free speech rights
https://www.hrc.co.nz/about/commissioners-and-senior-leadership/dame-susan-devoy/
Maybe you axholel katman and yokel would feel more at home at these sites below with other likeminded individuals
http://www.kkkknights.com/
http://www.aryan-nation.org/
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t241338/

[bogan]

You and Oscar are two of the worst offenders for trying to stifle discussion.

Dude, don't confuse posting a slam dunk point and concluding a discussion with stifling it. Ie, I posted two posts here recently, one addressed the article on point, and one calling oldie out for attempting to then stifle the discussion on that article. Had you any interest in the discussion, you would have quoted and addressed my first one, not the second. It's classic conspiracy theory self delusion; when confronted with an inconvenient point, it must not be taken on board.

[Katman]

Dude, don't confuse posting a slam dunk point and concluding a discussion with stifling it.

:killingme

My god you're a delusional wanker.

[bogan]

:killingme

My god you're a delusional wanker.

But yet again, it is your delusions that force you to avoid discussing anything of value. All the selective quotes, all the cop outs to voice mindless insults instead of contributing to the discussion... is all that Katman is.

[Oscar]

You and Oscar are two of the worst offenders for trying to stifle discussion.

That's pretty funny, as your idea of discussion is about making unsubstantiated claims and then telling people to google the proof, or getting some Muppet on YouTube to do it for you.

And objecting to racist and bigoted crap is not stifling anything.

[oldrider]

And objecting to racist and bigoted crap is not stifling anything. Pot kettle black as usual! :sick:

It's much like common sense - one must always ascertain - whose brand is being applied? :scratch:

[Oscar]

Pot kettle black as usual! :sick:

It's much like common sense - one must always ascertain - whose brand is being applied? :scratch:

What the fuck are you on about now?

Where have I posted anything racist or bigoted?

Also, you haven't told us about "..the myth of anti-Semitism.", yet.


Thanks again to mass ignorance of the Gentile or non Jew and the perpetuation of the anti-Semitic myth!

What a class act you are.

[oldrider]

What the fuck are you on about now?

Where have I posted anything racist or bigoted?

"Would that god the gift to give us to see ourselves as others see us" - Burns.

Racist and bigoted - but nobody ever expects you to understand - so don't fret about it none! - mind over matter - nobody minds because Oscar doesn't matter! :oi-grr:

[bogan]

"Would that god the gift to give us to see ourselves as others see us" - Burns.

Racist and bigoted - but nobody ever expects you to understand - so don't fret about it none! - mind over matter - nobody minds because Oscar doesn't matter! :oi-grr:

Here's an idea, you could offer an explanation as to why you think Oscar (and probably me, and anyone else who calls you out on your racism) is racist and bigoted; rather than just asserting your self-delusions over and over and over again... After all, there's a great difference between showing people what to think, and telling them.

[oldrider]

Here's an idea, you could offer an explanation as to why you think Oscar (and probably me, and anyone else who calls you out on your racism) is racist and bigoted; rather than just asserting your self-delusions over and over and over again... After all, there's a great difference between showing people what to think, and telling them.

Here's another idea - fuck off!

[Oscar]

"Would that god the gift to give us to see ourselves as others see us" - Burns.

Racist and bigoted - but nobody ever expects you to understand - so don't fret about it none! - mind over matter - nobody minds because Oscar doesn't matter! :oi-grr:

So hows about you, just for once, back up something that post?

Find something that I posted that was racist.

[bogan]

Here's another idea - fuck off!

Haha, classic conspiracy delusionist response. Grow up you old fool.

[oldrider]

Michael Jackson sang a song relating to you two guys - right on! :lol: only thing I ever really noticed him sing! :rolleyes:

[Oscar]

Michael Jackson sang a song relating to you two guys - right on! :lol: only thing I ever really noticed him sing! :rolleyes:

I'll let the bigot thing go, coz that is obviously subjective.

However you also called me a racist.
So why don't you back that up - show me something that I posted here that was racist.

Stop waffling and back up your drivel for a change.

[oldrider]

I'll let the bigot thing go, coz that is obviously subjective.

However you also called me a racist.
So why don't you back that up - show me something that I posted here that was racist.

Stop waffling and back up your drivel for a change.

You are the most racist guy on earth - you just don't realise it! :blip:

[Oscar]

You are the most racist guy on earth - you just don't realise it! :blip:

Help me out then - show me.
Reveal my race hate to the world.

[husaberg]

Here's another idea - fuck off!

Sounds awfully like you are trying to avoid a rational debate, ol chap


Here's an idea, you could offer an explanation as to why you think Oscar (and probably me, and anyone else who calls you out on your racism) is racist and bigoted; rather than just asserting your self-delusions over and over and over again... After all, there's a great difference between showing people what to think, and telling them.


Me to, he has told me I am racist as well, for having the audacity to point out his blatant racism

[oldrider]

Hear the cattle mooing listen to them call every one above reproach from their high road they might fall! - - Mooo moo moo :cry:

[Oscar]

Hear the cattle mooing listen to them call every one above reproach from their high road they might fall! - - Mooo moo moo :cry:

So yet again, you just make shit up?

You are such a compulsive liar, you should try politics.

[yokel]

How do you spot racists and fascists?
easy, they call themselves "anti-fascists" and "anti-racists"

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Now lets all hear from the "anti-bigots"

[husaberg]

Gee We haven't heard from yokel in ages, How long do you think it will take till be notices the mods have bozo'ed him?
I reckon it will take almost 2 months at least..........:psst:

[oldrider]

So yet again, you just make shit up?

You are such a compulsive liar, you should try politics.

What was it that guy said - y'know the one that your ancestors nailed to a stick - let he who is with out sin cast the first stone! :niceone:

Self righteous bullshit artists sheesh! :bs:

[Oscar]

What was it that guy said - y'know the one that your ancestors nailed to a stick - let he who is with out sin cast the first stone! :niceone:

Self righteous bullshit artists sheesh! :bs:

Leave my ancestors out of this.
You are a loathsome bigot, you should be ashamed.

[oldrider]

Leave my ancestors out of this.
You are a loathsome bigot, you should be ashamed.

Sure, I am a bigot a racist and a lot of other things that you claim to be devoid of but at least I know it is part of human make up not full of denial - like you! :spanking:

I am quite happy with who and what I am!

Obviously you are not and have to go round thumping your chest and pretending to protect lesser people (in your bigoted mind) being victimised by bad guys!

You presumptuous wanker! :tugger:

[Oscar]

Sure, I am a bigot a racist and a lot of other things that you claim to be devoid of but at least I know it is part of human make up not full of denial - like you! :spanking:

I am quite happy with who and what I am!

Obviously you are not and have to go round thumping your chest and pretending to protect lesser people (in your bigoted mind) being victimised by bad guys!

You presumptuous wanker! :tugger:

You talk some shit.
You are obviously quite simple and naive.

[bogan]

pretending to protect lesser people (in your bigoted mind) being victimised by bad guys!

Is this it? you think one who stands up for another automatically means they must presume superiority over them? If so, that's some really fucked up logic dude. In fact, it sounds more like just some hateful divisive diatribe.

Or to put it another way (since you insist of seeing things from some shallow and outdated ranking system), I'll happily stand up for my betters, cos they sure as shit have better things to do than be on here.

[husaberg]

Sure, I am a bigot a racist and a lot of other things that you claim to be devoid of but at least I know it is part of human make up not full of denial - like you! :spanking:

I am quite happy with who and what I am!

Obviously you are not and have to go round thumping your chest and pretending to protect lesser people (in your bigoted mind) being victimised by bad guys!

You presumptuous wanker! :tugger:

Humans are not born racist oldie, they learn to be racist by being continually exposed to the exact racist propaganda you spout off daily.............
You know the exact same racist crap that the Nazis and the KKK spouted off about minorities........

[oldrider]

You guys don't know Jack shit - but as said you are so far up yourselves no one else is allowed an opinion or to think and decide for themselves according to you! :shutup:

[bogan]

You guys don't know Jack shit - but as said you are so far up yourselves no one else is allowed an opinion or to think and decide for themselves according to you! :shutup:

Incorrect, what we wish to see is reasoning behind your opinions. It's what separates the men from the boys, the bigots from the open-minded; it is only that which is logical, rational, and an opinion worth having.

[Katman]

Incorrect, what we wish to see is reasoning behind your opinions.

And yet you steadfastly refuse to familiarize yourself with any subject matter that goes against your institutionalised bigotry.

Like the Oded Yinon plan for example.

[Oscar]

You guys don't know Jack shit - but as said you are so far up yourselves no one else is allowed an opinion or to think and decide for themselves according to you! :shutup:

Your problem is that you post offensive drivel and then retreat to your "it's just an opinion" schtick when challenged.
You have spewed all sorts of anti-semitic crap and not once have you had the balls to even debate it, much less provide any evidence.
And explain to me how objecting to your unsubstantiated and evil propaganda somehow makes me a bigot?
How does that work?

As I've suggested before, why don't you summarise some of the stuff you've posted here and send it the media, the human rights commission or even your own family.
Go on, big man - tell the world about the "myth of anti-semitism".

[Oscar]

And yet you steadfastly refuse to familiarize yourself with any subject matter that goes against your institutionalised bigotry.

Like the Oded Yinon plan for example.

No, why don't you tell us about it?
Perhaps you can start with it's origin?

It's a 30 year old paper by a nutcase with no ties to Govt.
It is akin to foreigners assuming that what you write here is NZ Govt. policy.

As I said before, your major problem is that you are so gullible and so fucking stupid.

[Katman]

No, why don't you tell us about it?
Perhaps you can start with it's origin?

It's a 30 year old paper by a nutcase with no ties to Govt.
It is akin to foreigners assuming that what you write here is NZ Govt. policy.

As I said before, your major problem is that you are so gullible and so fucking stupid.

And there's that institutionalised bigotry again.

[Oscar]

And there's that institutionalised bigotry again.

How is that then?

I am explaining to the silly old cunt that his example is just one article, written thirty years ago by a disaffected fruitbag.
Have you any proof to the contrary?
Do you think articles written by right wing journos in NZ thirty years ago reflect NZ Govt policy?

And what the fuck is institutionalised bigotry anyway?
It sounds like a good epithet for anything that you don't agree with.

[Katman]

And what the fuck is institutionalised bigotry anyway?


It's bigotry that stems from a lifetime of being taught what to think - not how to think.

[Oscar]

It's bigotry that stems from a lifetime of being taught what to think - not how to think.

You are a pretentious cunt, aren't you?

I presented the facts of the thing.

An article thirty years old from a private citizen, being presented as some imperial Jewish plan.
What say you apply your cogent skills to it and come up with a better conclusion.

[Katman]

What say you apply your cogent skills to it and come up with a better conclusion.

One presumes that by "better conclusion" you mean one that agrees with yours?

You only need to look at what's been going on in the Middle East for the last couple of decades to see the Oded Yinon plan in action.

[Oscar]

One presumes that by "better conclusion" you mean one that agrees with yours?

You only need to look at what's been going on in the Middle East for the last couple of decades to see the Oded Yinon plan in action.

Yeah the plan has been going great.
Israel has given up the Sinai and Gaza.
Did I miss some other land that they now occupy?

No, by better conclusion I mean something that you thought of yourself.
Like some iota of proof that Oded Yinon is an architect of govt policy?
That anyone outside the arse end of the internet believes that it is anything more than the ravings of a right wing idiot?

Is it your contention that anything written by any journo in the last 30 years is automatically policy of the govt in the state in which they live?

[Katman]

http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/04/25/is-the-us-waging-israel-s-wars/

[bogan]

And yet you steadfastly refuse to familiarize yourself with any subject matter that goes against your institutionalised bigotry.

Like the Oded Yinon plan for example.

Incorrect, I refuse to swallow a bunch of conspiracy theories with little to no reasoning behind what they tell us to think (Like the Oded Yinon plan for example). I mean, the thing I specifically asked for, and was discussing, is still absent from your example, which is prefaced by, 'and yet'. You clearly don't know how to think...

[Oscar]

http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/04/25/is-the-us-waging-israel-s-wars/

Jaysus, why do you let the internet think for you?

Ties to the Israeli Foreign Ministry?
Yeah, he used to work there.

Apart from that, what do you have?
The fact that US and Israeli foreign policy is similar?
No surprises there.

The fact that the ME is fractious, warlike and unstable?
Yes, and has been since before Israel existed.

The fact that Yinon predicted the general situation thirty years ago?
Not exactly a hard prediction.

Would Israel ike that states that call for and plot its annihilation be de-stabilized?
No surprises there.

So, how does this rather obvious prediction back up you and the silly old twat's accusation of "institutional bigotry"?

[Katman]

http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html

[Katman]

Jaysus, why do you let the internet think for you?

There's a wealth of information out there.

You should probably try looking a little further than the 6 O'clock News.

[bogan]

There's a wealth of information out there.

You should probably try looking a little further than the 6 O'clock News.

I think he refers to your inability to provide rationale for that which you post. Ie, you let the internet think for you; and just choose the bits with the conclusions you want to believe. Which makes your jab about the 6 O'clock news all the more ironic.

[Oscar]

There's a wealth of information out there.

You should probably try looking a little further than the 6 O'clock News.

Saying "..you should fuck off back to six o'clock news" is not a valid argument (even if I did watch what passes for news on TV these days).

It seems to me that you have a very closed mind, and will not actually think for yourelf, just like the Oldtwat.
I note that you didn't try to engage with any of the points that I made, you seem to want us to accept anything you find on the internet as solid fact, but when it is debated, you resort to ad hominems.

[Katman]

It seems to me that you have a very closed mind, and will not actually think for yourelf, just like the Oldtwat.




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[oldrider]

Seems the world is over subscribed with Oscars: http://brexitnotracist.com/

[Oscar]

Seems the world is over subscribed with Oscars: http://brexitnotracist.com/

Actually the most interesting thing you've ever posted.

I thought the guy made some interesting points.
He has obviously met you:


This smug, self-righteous attitude has quickly spread to become the only ‘acceptable opinion’ on the streets of London.

[Katman]

He has obviously met you:


This smug, self-righteous attitude has quickly spread to become the only ‘acceptable opinion’ on the streets of London.

Seriously dude, take a fucking look at yourself.

You and bogan are the ones trying to stipulate what you believe should be considered 'acceptable' opinion.

[bogan]

Seriously dude, take a fucking look at yourself.

You and bogan are the ones trying to stipulate what you believe should be considered 'acceptable' opinion.

Simply one which has rationale behind it. Just look at Trumpy and Brexit; democracy fails when people choose what they want to believe, instead of rationally thinking about it. The test to tell between the two is oh so simple... and you and oldy fail it oh so often.

[Oscar]

Seriously dude, take a fucking look at yourself.

You and bogan are the ones trying to stipulate what you believe should be considered 'acceptable' opinion.

Are there no mirrors in your world?

[Oscar]

Simply one which has rationale behind it. Just look at Trumpy and Brexit; democracy fails when people choose what they want to believe, instead of rationally thinking about it. The test to tell between the two is oh so simple... and you and oldy fail it oh so often.

He's fucking funny, but he's got no idea why.
He's trying to say that we're trying to censure the discussion, but any time we make a good point he dismisses it as "the six o'clock news" or posts a picture of a sheep.
Katman is an anti-establishment authoritarian wannabe who can't stand anyone to argue with him.
The Oldtwat yearns for a bygone age where he could blame all his personal shortcomings and sad life on the Jews, or the Unions, or the Gummint, or the One World Conspiracy or chem trails or anything except the scenario where he takes responsibility for his own sad and unfulfilled life.

[Voltaire]

There's a wealth of information out there.

You should probably try looking a little further than the 6 O'clock News.

Now that Hillary's gone you can't believe a word.

Al Jazeera is worth a look, but there are bugger all cat videos on it.

[yokel]

While the MSM is in shock over Brexit, Donald Trump the "boffin" called it.

Who's the boffin now??

This whole Brexit thing makes the talking heads on the telly look pretty dam stupid.

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[Swoop]

You and bogan are the ones trying to stipulate what you believe should be considered 'acceptable' opinion.

This could probably go down in KB folklore as one of the largest, most retarded and ironic statements. Coming from the person who throws his toys out of his pram whenever anyone disagrees with his narrow view of the world*.





* Narrow view of the world = websites which only support one sided views.

[Ocean1]

* Narrow view of the world = websites which only support one sided views.

And ewechoobs, don't forget the ewechoobs.