The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[yokel]

This could probably go down in KB folklore as one of the largest, most retarded and ironic statements. Coming from the person who throws his toys out of his pram whenever anyone disagrees with his narrow view of the world*.





* Narrow view of the world = websites which only support one sided views.

HAHAHAHAHA!

It's kinda what you do if you want to make a case or point.

[Katman]

This could probably go down in KB folklore as one of the largest, most retarded and ironic statements. Coming from the person who throws his toys out of his pram whenever anyone disagrees with his narrow view of the world*.

Fuck off shitforbrains.

I don't give a fuck what opinion anyone else decides to have.

I'm just as entitled to my own opinions.

That's not dictating what is 'acceptable opinion' at all.

Fucking shitforbrains.

[Oscar]

Fuck off shitforbrains.

I don't give a fuck what opinion anyone else decides to have.

I'm just as entitled to my own opinions.

That's not dictating what is 'acceptable opinion' at all.

Fucking shitforbrains.

What the fuck are you on about "acceptable opinions" for?

If the old prick posts racist, anti-Semitic shit he gets all the crap he deserves.

[Katman]

What the fuck are you on about "acceptable opinions" for?

You brought it up in post #492.

You stupid fuck.

(Yes, I'm aware that they are not your words - but you quoted them to suggest it's your impression of oldrider).

[bogan]

He's fucking funny, but he's got no idea why.
He's trying to say that we're trying to censure the discussion, but any time we make a good point he dismisses it as "the six o'clock news" or posts a picture of a sheep.
Katman is an anti-establishment authoritarian wannabe who can't stand anyone to argue with him.
The Oldtwat yearns for a bygone age where he could blame all his personal shortcomings and sad life on the Jews, or the Unions, or the Gummint, or the One World Conspiracy or chem trails or anything except the scenario where he takes responsibility for his own sad and unfulfilled life.

Spot on, and don't forget all the, 'but it's just my opinion' cop outs when either are challenged to provide even a skerrick of supporting evidence. I mean, we know it is just their opinion; that's the whole problem, the chasm between it and reality.


This could probably go down in KB folklore as one of the largest, most retarded and ironic statements. Coming from the person who throws his toys out of his pram whenever anyone disagrees with his narrow view of the world*.

* Narrow view of the world = websites which only support one sided views.

Well, it's got a lot of competition, but it's well up there :yes:


Fuck off shitforbrains.

I don't give a fuck what opinion anyone else decides to have.

I'm just as entitled to my own opinions.

That's not dictating what is 'acceptable opinion' at all.

Fucking shitforbrains.

You seem a little angry about swoop's opinion there mate :scratch: :killingme

I guess we'll wait patentiently for you next set ironic and delusional ravings to put that to bed though :wait:

[Katman]

You seem a little angry about swoop's opinion there mate :scratch: :killingme

I guess we'll wait patentiently for you next set ironic and delusional ravings to put that to bed though :wait:

Don't go confusing contempt with anger.

[Oscar]

You brought it up in post #492.

You stupid fuck.

(Yes, I'm aware that they are not your words - but you quoted them to suggest it's your impression of oldrider).

Jeez, you should take a breath.
You're making less sense than usual.

[Katman]

Jeez, you should take a breath.
You're making less sense than usual.

I then pointed out that it's actually the likes of you and bogan who attempt to dictate what constitutes 'acceptable opinion'.

(As in, any discussion that mentions the words Jew/Zionist is deemed unacceptable opinion).

What's difficult to understand about that?

[Oscar]

Don't go confusing contempt with anger.

In your case it's either to confuse either for blithering, incomprehensible stupidity.

You seem to be a dull, short-tempered man whose tenuous grip on reality slips with onset of rage.

Maybe you could try decaffeinated.

[bogan]

Don't go confusing contempt with anger.

You seem to be...

Anger is the one where you get all angry, characteristed by swearing and insulting etc. Contempt is the one when you pay no mind, because it is not worth it. I'll use it in a sentence shall I?

So many shitters on this site have implied contempt for me by stating they will no longer reply to my posts; yet invariably their anger at the truths I point out gets the better of them, and they respond with insults and so forth.

[Katman]

You're making less sense than usual.


In your case it's either to confuse either for blithering, incomprehensible stupidity.

What? :scratch:

[husaberg]

You seem to be...

Anger is the one where you get all angry, characteristed by swearing and insulting etc. Contempt is the one when you pay no mind, because it is not worth it. I'll use it in a sentence shall I?

So many shitters on this site have implied contempt for me by stating they will no longer reply to my posts; yet invariably their anger at the truths I point out gets the better of them, and they respond with insults and so forth.


In your case it's either to confuse either for blithering, incomprehensible stupidity.

You seem to be a dull, short-tempered man whose tenuous grip on reality slips with onset of rage.

Maybe you could try decaffeinated.

Did you see just how angry Katman got when I pointed out the creditable source of a load of twaddle he had posted, was actually the daily stormer a neo-Nazi website.
http://www.dailystormer.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Stormer
Now that was funny.

[Katman]

I'll use it in a sentence shall I?

So many shitters on this site have implied contempt for me by stating they will no longer reply to my posts; yet invariably their anger at the truths I point out gets the better of them, and they respond with insults and so forth.

Are you autistic? :wacko:

[bogan]

Are you autistic? :wacko:

That's a good illustration of a contemptible response. Off topic, addresses no points made, and is a beige and uninteresting insult.

[Oscar]

I then pointed out that it's actually the likes of you and bogan who attempt to dictate what constitutes 'acceptable opinion'.

(As in, any discussion that mentions the words Jew/Zionist is deemed unacceptable opinion).

What's difficult to understand about that?

Please show me where I have used the expression "acceptable opinion" on my own account.

Notwithstanding that, I will quite happily discuss those subjects as long as it doesn't include vile, racists and base propaganda.
For example, I am of the opinion that the IDF has been guilty of war crimes during recent incursions into Gaza (the use of Willie Pete on civilian neighborhoods for example).
However if you trot out idiotic shit like the "Lay-lines of Jerusalem" or the Protocols, then expect to be treated like an idiot.
Or you could crap on about the "Myth of Antisemitism", which is a whole new level of contemptible drivel brought by the Oldtwat.

[Oscar]

Are you autistic? :wacko:

Maybe as a result of being vaccinated?

[Oscar]

Did you see just how angry Katman got when I pointed out the creditable source of a load of twaddle he had posted, was actually Stormfront a neo-Nazi website.
Now that was funny.

He is more fun than Oldie.
Oldie is slightly sad and pitiful...

[bogan]

He is more fun than Oldie.
Oldie is slightly sad and pitiful...

Give him a few years, he's clearly on a steady decline, and almost certainly passed the point of no return.

[husaberg]

He is more fun than Oldie.
Oldie is slightly sad and pitiful...

But how is Katman different, I would suggest he is even more gullible and prone to fits of rage when he's proven wrong?

[Katman]

Did you see just how angry Katman got when I pointed out the creditable source of a load of twaddle he had posted, was actually the daily stormer a neo-Nazi website.
http://www.dailystormer.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Stormer
Now that was funny.


He is more fun than Oldie.
Oldie is slightly sad and pitiful...


Give him a few years, he's clearly on a steady decline, and almost certainly passed the point of no return.

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[Oscar]

But how is Katman different, deluded and angry?

Oh yes, he's much angrier.
Oldie seems somewhat confused when the stuff he posts gets a reaction.
I'm not sure that he knows what half of it means, maybe he's just try to be dope and get down with the kids...

[Swoop]

It's kinda what you do if you want to make a case or point.
No. It's pointing out that you are making a small stone look like it would be capable of brain surgery.
Your repeated blatherings seem to imitate the need to post a link or ewechoob of absolute bollocks.

Ah, speaking of which:

Fuck off shitforbrains.

I don't give a fuck what opinion anyone else decides to have.

I'm just as entitled to my own opinions.

That's not dictating what is 'acceptable opinion' at all.

Fucking shitforbrains.
Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, however berating others who disagree with yours takes things in an entirely different direction.
You refuse to answer questions posed of you.
You keep banging on the same message like a stuck record, however the message varies according to the wind's direction.

Note: A hyperlink to a batshit-crazy website has never been accepted as "answering a question".
Note #2: Please increase the dosage of your meds.

[awa355]

Methinks this thread has run its course. Time to move to the pink bin perhaps?.

[Katman]

Methinks this thread has run its course. Time to move to the pink bin perhaps?.

Or you could always fuck off and read something else instead.

Just an idea.

[oldrider]

Oh yes, he's much angrier.
Oldie seems somewhat confused when the stuff he posts gets a reaction.
I'm not sure that he knows what half of it means, maybe he's just try to be dope and get down with the kids...

Ever watched a child with a bow on a piece of string and a kitten? - much the same as the KB forums only the know it alls replace the kittens! :corn:

[husaberg]

Ever watched a child with a bow on a piece of string and a kitten? - much the same as the KB forums only the know it alls replace the kittens! :corn:

So in a nutshell, you have just alluded that , you knowingly post racist crap, just to troll for a reaction.........Wow that's really tragic.
Sounds about right though.......
Only thing more tragic than that is, you actually believe in the racist crap you post........

[Swoop]

Or you could always fuck off and read something else instead.
Rather that succumbing to your homoerotic fantasies?
Perhaps it is, in fact, you who wishes to suck on another man's cock?
Have you discussed this topic, which you find so enthralling, with your therapist?


Ever watched a child with a bow on a piece of string and a kitten? - much the same as the KB forums only the know it alls replace the kittens! :corn:
Have you ever been to the zoo and watched a chimpanzee shitting into its hand and throwing the feces everywhere? If so, you will have a superb example of SuckMyCockman's demeanor.

[husaberg]

Oh yes, he's much angrier.
Oldie seems somewhat confused when the stuff he posts gets a reaction.
I'm not sure that he knows what half of it means, maybe he's just try to be dope and get down with the kids...


You guys don't know Jack shit - but as said you are so far up yourselves no one else is allowed an opinion or to think and decide for themselves according to you! :shutup:

Yet oldie, like katman seems to think he has certain rights to post racist propaganda yet not challenged about its validity.
I will say this though, Oldie at least doesn't display the same homoerotic tendencies with his rep and postings as Katman does.......

[yokel]

So in a nutshell, you have just alluded that , you knowingly post racist crap, just to troll for a reaction.........Wow that's really tragic.
Sounds about right though.......
Only thing more tragic than that is, you actually believe in the racist crap you post........

You do realise every time you call someone a "racist" makes you just one of the mindless masses, but do go on.....

Apparently there's some 17,000,000 racists,xenophobes and every other kinda phobe in the UK.

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[Katman]

Rather that succumbing to your homoerotic fantasies?
Perhaps it is, in fact, you who wishes to suck on another man's cock?
Have you discussed this topic, which you find so enthralling, with your therapist?

Seriously, you're fixated on me, aren't you?

[oldrider]

Judge Jeanine Pirro has her say 25 June 2016.

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[Swoop]

Seriously, you're fixated on me, aren't you?

Not in the slightest. When you are absent from this site it is a much more pleasant experience. I tend to ignore most of your blathering one-eyed stupidity, but occasionally the largest turds rise to the top of your septic tank of "intelligence" and tweak my interest.

What is noteable is that Winston Curchill may have had you in mind with this quote:
"Everyone is in favour of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage.” ~ W Churchill.

You probably will not register the irony though.

[Madness]

This thread...

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3729507172/7bf7a4a26c1e28ecb43aaa3f4fbde93e.jpeg

[Katman]

Not in the slightest. When you are absent from this site it is a much more pleasant experience. I tend to ignore most of your blathering one-eyed stupidity, but occasionally the largest turds rise to the top of your septic tank of "intelligence" and tweak my interest.

Then perhaps you should fuck off back to the threads that are more suited to your intellect (iykwim) - instead of getting all hot and sweaty over me.

[husaberg]

Then perhaps you should fuck off back to the threads that are more suited to your intellect (iykwim) - instead of getting all hot and sweaty over me.

In case you missed the memo.
You are not the centre of the universe, You are more like black hole, ie incredibly dense with no light escaping. But unlike a black hole you were never a star.

[Swoop]

Then perhaps you should fuck off back to the threads that are more suited to your intellect (iykwim) - instead of getting all hot and sweaty over me.

Steve, have a lovely weekend, then we will re-commence discussing topics of a communal nature on Monday.
Have a nice dinner. There is no need to be concerned about me, or any hint of becoming intertwined in your sexual fantasies about me. I will make sure your meds are set so that you have a relaxing weekend without your need to stress over anything.

[oldrider]

“Most Jewish Ever” 2016 US Election - http://newobserveronline.com/most-jewish-ever-2016-us-presidential-election/

Perhaps a candidate for the word of the day thread? - Machatunim (Yiddish) - (English does not have an equivalent word)

United States presidential election candidates Trump and Clinton share this word!
http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2015/12/09/machatunim_co_in_laws_english_needs_a_word_for_the _relationship_between.html

Twelve principles of American Jewish political practice: http://jcpa.org/article/the-2016-election-jews-and-their-politics/

[Banditbandit]

You do realise every time you call someone a "racist" makes you just one of the mindless masses, but do go on.....

Apparently there's some 17,000,000 racists,xenophobes and every other kinda phobe in the UK.



yeah .. and they dumped their spawn here so we have to put up with them ..

[oldrider]

One law for Clinton - same (lesser) crime - different law for Navy serviceman! http://www.mintpressnews.com/hillary-non-indictment-proves-poor-unconnected-follow-laws/218128/ - :shifty: - :corn:

[oldrider]

Donald Trump GOP presidential nominee acceptance full speech.

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[husaberg]

Donald Trump GOP presidential nominee acceptance full speech.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/42418toh02M

I am rather surprised at how just how little you are concerned about how totally Jewish Donald Trump is...........:lol:
But wow he's sure a cretin, I fully expect him to get at least 40 percent of the votes regardless......

[oldrider]

I am rather surprised at how just how little you are concerned about how totally Jewish Donald Trump is...........:lol:
But wow he's sure a cretin, I fully expect him to get at least 40 percent of the votes regardless......

Think carefully on what you have posted here - it is simply your opinion! - All I did was post a video of Donald Trump's acceptance speech - make of it what you will!

[husaberg]

Think carefully on what you have posted here - it is simply your opinion! - All I did was post a video of Donald Trump's acceptance speech - make of it what you will!

Well lets look carefully at some of your posts


Hmmm - If the Donald actually "is" the real deal - then just like Jesus Christ - those that need him most will crucify him! - Tis the way of the world! :brick: (historically!)


Found this post - backs up what Trump is saying - and note the law already exists just not enacted! :eek:
http://www.usacarry.com/forums/off-topic/53275-islam-law-prohibited-us-immigration.html?utm_source=Dr+Sircus+Newsletter&utm_campaign=dfd330f700-Article_374_6_14_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ea98c09673-dfd330f700-9531509

Well cast your eyes across this lot and see nothing here too! https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/06/14/nato-j14.html . :cool:?
And this lot from dearest peace-nick Hillary: https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpress.com/2016/05/15/killary-clinton-if-im-president-we-will-attack-iran-for-israel-we-would-be-able-to-totally-obliterate-them/ (Iran doesn't have a federal reserve bank = war crime?)

And then replaced by Obama under emergency legislation just after Iran has been attacked in retaliation for Trumps assassination by box cutter knife welding Arabs!

OK so why does Hillary run off at the mouth about Iran? - a suck up to vested US interests that she is their man for the job? - pick me pick me? - I can do it! :headbang:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-falsely-calls-iran-leading-state-sponsor-of-terrorism/5529451?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles - Who is it wants Iran smashed the most? - Bibi Netanyahu and Israel? - :yes:

Donald Trump's campaign continues - what does he really stand for? - if it is truly the people - how long will he survive? - notice he does not do nice! :oi-grr:
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The Walking Dead–Donald Trump as an enemy of ‘Greater Israel’ living every day of his candidacy in Netanyahu’s crosshairs

By
Mark Glenn
Just as thunder, lightning, and wind announce an impending storm, likewise, certain political rumblings oftentimes dictate likely futures, and one of those very-likely ‘tomorrows’ figuring powerfully in world events may very well be a short speech by Sen. Marco Rubio following the assassination of one Donald J. Trump that might sound something like this–
‘There are no words, no condolences that suffice in expressing the grief that all Americans feel tonight at the terrible tragedy that’s taken place…On a political level, yes, Donald was my adversary, but there is no doubt that he was also a true American who believed in his country, and in the end, he paid the ultimate price for doing so. I for one will not allow his death to go in vain, but instead vow to all of you, the great people of America, that as President I will continue the work that Donald sought to accomplish in repairing this great country of ours. May Donald rest in peace and may God bless the United States of America…’

Trump’s assassination would (of course) be ‘officially’ tagged on the usual one-size-fits-all suspects within the ‘clash of civilizations’ paradigm that seems to predominate in all upheavals today–some ‘Islamic’ group incensed at his recent statements concerning Muslim immigration into the U.S. as well as his fictitious assertion concerning the ‘thousands of Muslims’ celebrating in Jersey City, New Jersey on the morning of 9/11.

His real killers however will not be ISIS, ISIL, Al Qaeda or some other variant of artificially-created Islamic terrorism that’s been cooked up in some spy kitchen in Langley, Tel Aviv, London, Riyadh or wherever. Rather, Trump’s demise will be the handiwork of radicalized followers of that other backwards, intolerant cult hailing out of the Middle East who have adjudged him to be an infidel, a blasphemer deserving of death and someone who poses a clear and present danger to the existence of their long-dreamed of Caliphate…

Not jihadists from the ‘Islamic’ State, but rather Juhadists from the Jewish state…

Anyone watching the dramatic–or rather, ‘jramatic’–political events taking place as of late involving Donald Trump would had to have been schnoozing away in some barely-conscious state of existence to avoid noting that an open, no-holds-barred war has been declared against his candidacy on the part of those organized Jewish interests in the West who see the money, military might, and moxie of America as rightfully theirs by virtue of Judaic eminent domain. Unlike anything witnessed in recent political history, both sides of the right/left Zionist matrix have put aside whatever minor differences exist between them and have joined forces in preventing at all costs Trump from becoming the next occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington D.C. Similar to the biblical warlord Joshua and his Israelite army assailing the walled city of Jericho with trumpet blasts and shouts prior to its invasion, destruction and then incineration, likewise not a day goes by where the world is spared the ear-splitting noise generated by the Jewish mainstream media, both in America and throughout the West, working in tandem to bring down Trump’s campaign. Hatchet pieces intimidating his being an incestuous child molestor, that he would ‘nuke Denmark’ to threats from powerful Israeli operatives such as WIlliam Kristol that Trump’s nomination to the Republican ticket would would result in the ‘Grand Old Party’–a mainstay in American politics now for almost 200 years–being wiped off the political map, the organized assault against his candidacy resembles some Old Testament plague that is seemingly unstoppable and inescapable.

In understanding how politics in the US works–and particularly those politics dominated by ‘special interest’ groups whose sole ‘special interest’ is the well being of another country, Israel–Trump, politically-speaking, was a dead man walking before he had even hiccuped his intention to run for the Presidency. His independent wealth (making him a free agent and beyond the reach of Jewish money and its paralyzing influence) his independent opinions, his willingness to say or do whatever needs to be said or done in ‘sealing the deal’ meant/means that his chances of securing the blessings of La Kosher Nostra for this particular business venture were as likely to materialize as a leopard changing its spots. Given that the end result of this regularly-scheduled beauty contest in American politics taking place every 2, 4, and 6 years directly affects the fate of Israel, all can be assured that long before the various contestants came strutting down that political catwalk that the self-appointed/self-anointed ‘Judges’ of that contest spent years–even decades–studying their lives, affections, predilections, etc in gauging how useful Mr. or Miss America would be in furthering the interests of the Jewish state.

As it pertains to Trump, it was decided decades ago in the aftermath of various business dealings and engagements involving him, both on Wall Street and within a New York real estate market that is as kosher as Manischewitz that in any political position he would not be ‘good for Israel’. Both his independent coin and independent compass meant that he was beyond their reach, a point he himself acknowledged when he recently addressed the Republican Jewish Coalition and (rightly) attributed their cold reception to his candidacy to his not wanting their money and thus being beyond their control.

Just as all can be assured that there is a concerted effort on the part of the Judean Peoples’ Front to prevent Trump getting enough shareholders’ votes to ascend as Chairman of the Board, likewise all too can be assured that Trump–savvy business operator that he is who keeps his ear to the ground, listens attentively to the talk on the street and knows how the PJF operates–also knew a long time ago the forces that would be arrayed against him and is therefore playing his own game against them as well.

The reason it will be Rubio making ‘the big speech’ in the aftermath of Donald’s demise is because–just as his name ‘Rubio’ translates en español–he is indeed ‘the golden boy’ as far as Netanyahu and his fellow Likud members are concerned. Like a prostitute listing off the various services he or she is willing to render and for how much, Rubio has made clear how far he is willing to go in fulfilling all of Netanyahu’s fantasies concerning a ‘revitalized’ U.S./Israeli relationship with the former assuming the supine position in the face of the latter’s demands, to say nothing of all the war in the Middle East and beyond which Netanyahu has–with his own blood–jotted down on his ‘to do’ list. Rubio has promised that as el Presidente he will see to it that Iran is put back in the American crosshairs, that Russian jets flying over Syria will be shot down and that Israel will be given a free hand whenever feeding time for the beast rolls around and she engages in one of her periodic blood binges, be it in Gaza or wherever.

‘I get by with a little help from my friends…’

All can be assured that on 21 November 2015, when presidential hopeful Donald Trump announced at a campaign rally in Birmingham, Alabama that he personally witnessed ‘thousands of Muslims’ celebrating in Jersey City, New Jersey on the morning of 9/11, tidal waves of panic swept through the organized Zionist community both in America and in Israel.

Not because such a statement was 100% factually bankrupt with no truth to it whatsoever. Those at the top of the Zionist interests food chain, including but certainly not limited to groups such as ADL, the American Jewish Committee, AIPAC, to say nothing of Mossad itself–understood immediately the documented and historical significance associated with Jersey City, New Jersey and the ‘Middle Easterners’ whose celebratory activities taking place on the morning of 9/11 led to their arrest, detainment, and 2 months of intensive questioning by the FBI.

Nor was this panic based on concerns that such statements–taking place in the midst of what is now an inferno of Zionist-engineered anti-Islamic hysteria gripping much/most of the West–would inevitably lead to increased hatred of/violence towards Muslims. After all, organized Jewish groups–and especially their parent corporation, the Jewish state–have profited nicely off of the ‘clash of civilizations’ between several billion Christians and Muslims that began almost immediately after 9/11, a fact stated unequivocally by none other than Benjamin Netanyahu himself when he spoke of the ‘immediate sympathy for Israel’ that would be generated by all the death, destruction, and human misery that took place that day.

Rather, this panic on the part of those enchanters and spellbinders tasked with keeping the American mind intoxicated and entranced in favor of Israeli interests was due entirely to their knowing what would be the inevitable result of such statements being made by a man like Trump, whose every word is attentively heard and weighed by tens (hundreds?) of millions of Americans on a daily basis. Given that this strange meme–the ‘celebrating Muslims of New Jersey on 9/11’–has never been discussed before, amidst all the millions of words spoken about the events of that day covering a time span of 15 years means that introducing such a LOUD and controversial statement into the political discourse at this moment can have but one result–extreme curiosity on the part of those hearing it for the first time.

More dangerous to Israel than the curiosity itself however is what must surely to take place as a result of that interest, where in this, the ‘information age’, hundreds of millions of fingers would begin typing away at various internet search engines, using words such as ‘911’ ‘New Jersey’ ‘dancing’ ‘celebrating’, etc, which then–through the algorithmic process known as SEO or ‘Search Engine Optimization’–opens a very problematic door for a certain group of individuals desperate to keep Americans in the dark about some of the lesser-known events of that day, and especially those events described in news stories with problematic titles such as ‘Were the Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?’ that was published by ABC News and which read in part, to wit–

‘Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade Center attacks, and those who saw them won’t forget them. But a New Jersey homemaker saw something that morning that prompted an investigation into five young Israelis and their possible connection to Israeli intelligence.

Maria, who asked us not to use her last name, says she saw three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. The men were taking video of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men’s faces. “They were like happy, you know…They didn’t look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange,” she said.

She found the behavior so suspicious that she wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police. Before long, the FBI was also on the scene, and a statewide bulletin was issued on the van.

The plate number was traced to a van owned by a company called Urban Moving. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was spotted on a service road off Route 3, near New Jersey’s Giants Stadium. A police officer pulled the van over, finding five men, between 22 and 27 years old, in the vehicle. The men were taken out of the van at gunpoint and handcuffed by police.

The arresting officers said they saw a lot that aroused their suspicion about the men. One of the passengers had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock. Another was carrying two foreign passports. A box cutter was found in the van. But perhaps the biggest surprise for the officers came when the five men identified themselves as Israeli citizens.

According to the police report, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, “We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.” The other passengers were his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari.

When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out of the FBI’s Criminal Division, and into the bureau’s Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases. One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation.

The FBI searched Urban Moving’s offices for several hours, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. The FBI also questioned Urban Moving’s owner. His attorney insists that his client answered all of the FBI’s questions. But when FBI agents tried to interview him again a few days later, he was gone.

Three months later 2020’s cameras photographed the inside of Urban Moving, and it looked as if the business had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse.

The owner had also cleared out of his New Jersey home, put it up for sale and returned with his family to Israel.

Steven Gordon, the attorney for the five Israeli detainees, acknowledged that his clients’ actions on Sept. 11 would easily have aroused suspicions. “You got a group of guys that are taking pictures, on top of a roof, of the World Trade Center. They’re speaking in a foreign language. They got two passports on ’em. One’s got a wad of cash on him, and they got box cutters. Now that’s a scary situation.”

The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case.

The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests.

Since their arrest, plenty of speculation has swirled about the case, and what the five men were doing that morning. Eventually, The Forward, a respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported the FBI concluded that two of the men were Israeli intelligence operatives.

According to Vince Cannistraro, former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS, many people in the U.S. intelligence community believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli intelligence. For the FBI, deciphering the truth from the five Israelis proved to be difficult. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie-detector test for 10 weeks — then failed it, according to his lawyer. Another of his lawyers told us Kurzberg had been reluctant to take the test because he had once worked for Israeli intelligence in another country.

The men denied that they had been working for Israeli intelligence out of the New Jersey moving company, and Ram Horvitz, their Israeli attorney, dismissed the allegations as “stupid and ridiculous.”

Mark Regev, the spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, goes even further, asserting the issue was never even discussed with U.S. officials.

“These five men were not involved in any intelligence operation in the United States, and the American intelligence authorities have never raised this issue with us,” Regev said. “The story is simply false.”

Many U.S. government officials still believe that some of them were on a mission for Israeli intelligence.

As to what they were doing on the van, they say they read about the attack on the Internet, couldn’t see it from their offices and went to the parking lot for a better view. But no one has been able to find a good explanation for why they may have been smiling with the towers of the World Trade Center burning in the background.

According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.

While the former detainees refused to answer ABCNEWS’ questions about their detention and what they were doing on Sept. 11, several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home.

Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, “The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.”

That Trump’s statement concerning the ‘thousands of Muslims’ in New Jersey cheering the events of 9/11 touched a raw nerve was apparent from the beginning. The same Jewish mainstream media in America that never misses an opportunity to throw buckets of gasoline on the already-out-of-control inferno known as Islamophobia in America immediately lept into action, denouncing Trump as a bigot and castigating his ‘celebrating Muslims’ assertions as outrageous and baseless. Salvo after salvo was launched, Op Eds and news pieces were blasted across both the print and electronic media, all of which obviously aimed at shooing away otherwise curious eyes from the internet-based ticking time bombs just waiting to go off in the minds of the American people curious to know more about just who was ‘celebrating’ on the morning of 9/11.

Besides the obvious panic on the part of the JMSM, other indicators as well suggested that indeed Trump’s statement was having the dreaded effect Israel’s supporters feared. When it was obvious that Trump was not going to back down from his statement, despite the organized screeching campaign being waged against him and that the cat was already out of the bag so to speak, pro-Israel websites then flooded the internet with stories ‘proving’ Trump was right and that indeed ‘Muslims’ were celebrating in New Jersey on the morning of 9/11. The stories and Op Eds ‘proving’ Trump was right–aimed at stopping people dead in their tracks from digging any deeper–were sewn together from a small number of pieces written immediately after the attacks that day but which then received no follow-up coverage in the days, weeks, and months that followed.

Nevertheless, indeed curious eyes were flocking to the internet and researching Trump’s allegations, as evidenced by none other than the front page of the abcnews.com website itself, which, a mere few days after Trump’s initial statement and all the hullaballu that it created, listed the Israeli espionage story as the #3 most read piece for that day, which is quite telling in and of itself, given that the story is almost as old as 9/11 and not likely to be such a popular item some 15 years after its initial publication.

But of all the noise generated in the aftermath of Trump’s statement concerning the monkey-business taking place in Jersey City, New Jersey on the morning of 9/11, the one piece of commentary indicating that indeed he had struck gold in terms of Judaic angst came from no less than the ADL itself, considered the domestic arm of Israel’s intelligence service Mossad with tentacles spread throughout the world and who responded to Trump’s statement in part to wit–

“It is unfortunate that Donald Trump is giving new life to long-debunked conspiracy theories about 9/11…This seems to be a variation of the anti-Semitic myth that a group of Israelis were seen celebrating as the Twin Towers fell…His comments are irresponsible, not to mention factually challenged.”

So, in other words, the ADL recognized IMMEDIATELY the ‘connection’ between Trump’s assertion and what actually took place on the morning of 9/11 involving ‘the 5 dancing Israelis’ who later that day–AFTER BEING SEEN BY WITNESSES CHEERING AND CELEBRATING–were indeed arrested, held for over 2 months and subjected to intensive questioning by the FBI. Recall as well that according to the piece published by ABC–as well as similar pieces appearing in publications no less ‘mainstream’ than the Jewish Daily Forward–the ‘conspiracy theories’ about Israelis ‘celebrating as the Twin Towers fell’ that the ADL claims have been ‘debunked’ have in fact been confirmed and substantiated by the most powerful law enforcement agency operating within the United States, the FBI.

It is a proven fact that the ADL is an opportunistic entity that is constantly sticking its big nose into places where it doesn’t belong. It attempts to masquerade the fact that it is for all intents and purposes a spy agency in the service of a foreign government–the Jewish state–by periodically attaching itself to ‘domestic’ issues dealing with racism, bigotry, etc.

In this case however, the ADL was not running to the defense of innocent Muslims unfairly accused of cheering at the destruction that took place on the morning of 9/11 as much as it was running to the obfuscation of the Israeli spies who were in fact arrested that day, and, attempting once again to keep this problematic information out of sight and therefore out of mind as far as the American people were concerned.

This was not the first time that ADL marshaled its resources in stifling public awareness of this very same subject. In a piece written by freelance investigative journalist Christopher Ketcham for Counterpunch entitled What Did Israel Know in Advance of the 9/11 Attacks?, Ketcham writes that in the wake of 9/11 and the devastating 4-part series Fox News broadcast dealing with Israeli spying in America and its direct ties to 9/11, that then-president of the ADL Abraham Foxman directly intervened to have this ‘conversation’ stopped dead in its tracks and the problematic information contained therein scrubbed from Fox News’ archives, described in part by Ketcham to wit–

‘Abraham Foxman, telephoned executives at Fox News’ parent, News Corp., to demand a sit-down in the wake of the Cameron reportage. The source said that Foxman told the News Corp. executives, “Look, you guys have generally been pretty fair to Israel. What are you doing putting this stuff out there? You’re killing us”.

Ketcham then writes that within 4 days of this meeting, the transcripts disappeared, replaced by the message, “This story no longer exists”.

That the ADL, the most powerful Zionist advocacy group in America outside of AIPAC, would insert itself into this little ‘jrama’ on behalf of the Islamic community when the JMSM, both in America and throughout the West, is working overtime in denigrating Islam as much as possible in the interests of furthering the same ‘clash of civilizations’ that Netanyahu all but gigglingly discussed with American media right after 9/11 reveals the extent to which organized Jewish groups viewed the entire ‘Muslims celebrating in New Jersey’ meme as a ticking time bomb that could have disastrous results for the Jewish state if not contained. Clearly, the various entities that work day and night in keeping the American mind properly-poisoned in such a way that Israel’s interests are furthered understood that Trump’s statement had just set in motion something that could have all sorts of systemic and sustained problems for Israel and for the chokehold that she maintains over the American political process. Americans finding out that for 15 years there was an entire chapter of the 9/11 narrative dealing with a group of Israeli spies cheering at the deaths of 3,000 Americans on 9/11, deaths that resulted in–

1. America embroiling herself in several senseless, needless wars that have all but destroyed the American economy,

2. The deaths of tens of thousands of American men and women serving in the U.S. Armed Forces,

3. The U.S. being put in a confrontational posture with a nuclear-armed Russia over the issue of Syria,

–And that later, these spies were later sent back to Israel, where shortly thereafter they appeared on a television program and revealed that they were sent by their government to ‘document the event’ of 9/11, indicating clear foreknowledge on the part of ‘America’s only ally in the Middle East.’

In other words, what the Zionist apparatus in America feared as a result of the sudden Trump-generated public interest vis a’ vis 9/11 was the political equivalent of large, dangerous animal waking up from some previously-administered anesthetic keeping it manageable, and upon waking, would then tear to pieces all those in its immediate environment attempting to capture and imprison it. The obvious result of such an awakening would be something akin to 9/11 itself, where the seemingly indestructible structures making up the ‘special relationship’ between the US and the Jewish state would come crumbling down.

And especially if the ‘celebrating Muslims in Jersey City, New Jersey’ meme was just one of several ‘surprises’ that Trump was capable of pulling out of his black bag of political magic tricks. After all, given his momentum and his seemingly impossible-to-contain public support, how difficult would it be for him to begin other discussions–as LOUD and as controversial as the previous one–around events such as Israel’s attack on the USS LIBERTY, the Lavon Affair, the assassinations of 2 brothers named Kennedy, the bombing of the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City, Jonathan Pollard, Monica Lewinsky, etc, etc, etc?…

…or, better yet, even for him to offer a retraction and an apology, something along the lines of–

‘I, Donald J. Trump, do hereby retract my original statement that there were ‘thousands of Muslims’ celebrating in Jersey City, New Jersey on the morning of 9/11. My staff, after looking into the matter and speaking with law enforcement officials who were involved directly with the events of that day, have learned that in fact it was not Muslims who were celebrating that day, but rather 5 Israeli intelligence officers who were then arrested, held for questioning for more than 2 months and then sent back to Israel, after which time they admitted on Israeli TV that they were sent to America to ‘document the event’. I sincerely apologise if my comments offended anyone in the Islamic community.’

And all can be assured that something along these lines was precisely what Trump was prepared to do, and that in some fashion–back door or otherwise–he let those goombahs making up the organized Jewish power structure know that this might be the next ‘surprise’ coming out of his black bag of political magic tricks if certain concessions favorable to him were not met.

All can abandon the notion that Trump somehow found himself in the midst of some ‘senior moment’ and that he ‘misremembered’ hearing that Muslims were celebrating on the morning of 9/11. The possibility that in the midst of this terrible event taking place on 9/11–IN TRUMP’S BACKYARD no less–and that with all the well-connected and influential people that he knows, from police to intelligence to military, along with with his access to ‘inside’ information not readily available to the average Joe 6-Pack on the street, that somehow, amidst all the kibitzing that had to have taken place in the hours, days, weeks, and months following that he did not hear with his own ears some variation of ‘Did you hear about the 5 Israelis arrested on the morning of 9/11 in Jersey City, taking pictures of the Twins and joking about it?’ lies somewhere between the improbable and the impossible.

Indeed, Donald Trump, a big shark in a tank full of other big sharks, a man who makes sure to know from A to Z the particulars of a business venture long before he commits himself to any investment, knew when he stood on that stage in Birmingham, Alabama on 21 November 2015 that the ‘cheering Muslims’ in New Jersey on the morning of 9/11 were in fact not Muslims at all, but rather Jews working for Israeli intelligence, a skeleton which Israel and her supporters desperately need to keep hidden away in that closet.

The obvious question that must be asked therefore is–why would he do such a thing? Why set in motion ‘jrama’ such as this, knowing what kind of noise and controversy something like this must by its very nature create?

The question basically answers itself–controversy, or better yet, scandal. The topic of the ‘5 dancing Israelis’ arrested on 9/11 is the stuff of coercion and of gaining concessions from an uncooperative adversary but doing so in such a way that the general public is unaware of the fact that a gang war is taking place right in their midst.

Politics, and especially today, where powerful Jewish interests figure so prominently–is nothing more than ‘civilized’ gangsterism. ‘Business’ takes place in the atmosphere of threats, innuendo, betrayal, blackmail, sabotage, subterfuge and, when necessary, violence. The notion that the good of the country is decided upon after long, careful consideration by selfless civil servants working in close cooperation and who have only the best interests of the country at heart is as much rooted in reality as are the stories involving the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny. Nor is there any respect for notions of fair play or ‘may the best man win’. It’s not as much survival of the fittest as it is survival of the fiercest, a situation where whatever must be done to win will be done and with no apologies offered before, during, or after.

Having said this, what America–and indeed the entire world–witnessed with the entire ‘celebrating Muslims on 9/11’ debacle was a shot across the bow from Trump & co towards those powerful Jewish interests chewing away day and night at his chances for winning the presidency. By ripping open the old wound of 9/11 and using the ‘celebrating Muslims’ motif as the dull, rusty, scalpel for doing so, what Trump & co were saying to the Kristols, Krauthammers, Adelsons, Singers, et al who are indeed working in close cooperation with each other and with other as-of-this-moment unnamed individuals, both in the US and Israel, in making sure he does not win is that there are all sorts of skeletons in the political closet that Israel would really rather not be made part of the public discourse, and that with a mouth like his and with the hundreds of millions of ears who are glued to it, he could bring down the whole house of cards faster than these jermites who are gnawing away at the American political structure can get on a plane and head back to Israel, where their true allegiance lies.

Other evidence suggesting that indeed a very serious yet nuanced gang war is taking place between Trump and the organized Jewish power structure out to scuttle his presidency has been manifested in other ways as well.

Exactly 1 month after Trump’s now-infamous ‘celebrating Muslims’ comment in Birmingham, a protestor at a rally in Michigan who managed to make his way to the front row confronted Trump and shouted from a mere few feet away that it wasn’t Muslims who were arrested on 9/11, but rather 5 Israeli Jews.

Predictably, the crowd reacted as virtually all Americans have been programmed to react when anything untoward is uttered about ‘America’s only ally’ in the Middle East, which is to shout down the accuser like a pack of hyenas, but Trump’s reaction was very curious and–all can be assured–unnerving to the powerful pro-Israel interests who heard what he said as the protestor was being escorted out of the rally–

‘Be nice to him…He’s one of us…’

Any other candidate faced with the same situation would have–for the sake of their own political neck–roused the crowd to fits and to fury, denounced the heckler as an anti-Semite, a neo-Nazi, a conspiracy theorist, and put as much distance between themselves and such ideas as possible.

Trump’s response was ‘Be nice to him, he’s one of us’, saying in a very nuanced way that the heckler’s statement was not in conflict with Donald Trump or his campaign and that it was ok for others to adopt the same kinds of theories if they wanted to.

Which brings this conversation around to the next level in what is an already multi-level and complicated operation, which is that in all likelihood, Trump’s use of the word ‘us’ has more meaning to it than some would imagine, something much deeper and which involves more than just the superficial and overly-simplistic plural 1st person pronouns most people would assume.

The first thing that curious watchers of the Trump phenomenon should consider is that there is more to this thing than simply Donald J. Trump. And no, not just in the sense that he has campaign workers, friends, family members, millions of supporters, etc, but rather that he has ‘friends’ in very high places who have as much–if indeed not more–a vested interest in him becoming President as he does.

Although there has been no public mention of it yet per se, nevertheless it can be safely assumed that given his money, his contacts all over the business world (that overlap with the politics of various nations, especially in the Middle East) and his ability to read/engage with people on a very high-stakes level that someone of Trump’s caliber would had to have been approached at some point by one or more branches within the American intelligence community, most notably the CIA. A country such as the U.S., that strives to maintain full-spectrum dominance in world affairs, where the American military and the American dollar wield equal influence in maintaining the status quo for Pax Americana means that someone such as Trump would be seen as an indispensable set of eyes and ears in getting a better picture of what goes on in far-away places. After all, why go to the trouble, with all the associated risk, of tasking the NSA with eavesdropping on the phone conversations of various world leaders when they can get a first-hand account from someone who was in the room while the conversation was going on?

Having said this, and despite whatever denials may ensue from Team Trump as a result, it is not irresponsible or unrealistic speculation to wonder whether or not at some point in the future, the beans will be spilled in some memoir, written either by Trump himself, some close business associate or even one of his children, who will scribble something therein along the lines of ‘Daddy used to do things for the C.I.A. but never talked about it.’

This is not to say or even suggest that Trump is a full-fledged agent/officer of the CIA, that he graduated from ‘the Farm’ in Langley, carries a gun, has a set of skeleton keys and a hollow tooth containing cyanide to be used if he is captured and fears being tortured for classified information. Intelligence agencies maintain all sorts of ‘irregular’ relationships with persons of varying backgrounds who are utilized in certain ways that contribute towards meeting the needs of whatever a particular situation demands. Given his influence, his travels, and his international contacts with people operating at the very top of the food chain in terms of business, finance, politics, media, etc, Trump is exactly the kind of ‘go to’ guy that an agency such as the CIA would ‘go to’ in various circumstances, and in return for his ‘consultation services’, would be thrown a bone or two in the form of inside information that might help him with a particular business deal he happens to be negotiating in some locale somewhere.

This being the case, it is also by no means any stretch to speculate as to what kinds of friends in high places are assisting Trump with his Presidential campaign while remaining comfortably out of public sight in the shadows.

That there is a contingent of people working within the US intelligence community who know full well what really took place on 9/11 and who understand that if drastic measures are not taken soon that the US will become a footnote of history is now an established fact. In the aforementioned piece appearing in Counterpunch, Christopher Ketcham writes of what his sources told him concerning the ‘mood’ of those US intelligence agencies tasked with investigating 9/11, to wit–

“There is a lot of frustration inside the FBI about this case…They feel the higher echelons torpedoed the investigation into the Israeli New Jersey cell. Leads were not fully investigated”. Intelligence expert and author James Bamford described similar frustration within the CIA: “People I’ve talked to at the CIA were outraged at what was going on. They thought it was outrageous that there hadn’t been a real investigation, that the facts were hanging out there without any conclusion.”

One of the first indications that such a wrinkle had developed and that there was some pushback against Likud’s hijacking of the U.S. presidency in the wake of 9/11 was the release of the National Intelligence Estimate in 2007. To the surprise of many, and certainly to the fury of Netanyahu and his Likud party who recognized the implications associated with the release of this official statement–the 16 intelligence agencies tasked with putting together up-to-date intelligence estimates on certain hot-button topics stated clearly that Iran was not working towards the development of Nuclear Weapons.

The political earthquake this document caused was something along the lines of an 11 on the Richter scale, even though strictly speaking it is supposed to go no higher than a 10. The moment this official finding was made public, Netanyahu, Likud, and all those jermites–spies and saboteurs working in the American media, tasked with conjuring up the black magic needed for seducing (again) the collective American mind into going to war for Israel’s benefit–now found themselves with a formidable adversary–none other than the US intelligence community itself, or at least certain sectors of it.

Yes, all can be confident of the fact that within the US intelligence community, there are persons–powerful individuals with pull and with resources–who know exactly what took place on 9/11, and, more importantly, who know where it is all headed. More than anyone else, they are fully aware of the fact that 9/11 was an act of arson meant not just to incinerate the Islamic world, but as well the United States, Europe, Russia, China, and anyone else Israel has deemed must be ‘wiped off the map’ as a preparatory step to bringing about the long dreamed-of Caliphate which Netanyahu and his fellow juhadists refer to as ‘Greater Israel’.

And it is these individuals operating within the inner sanctum of not just US intelligence but also the US military who understand just how serious the stakes are, who recognize that 9/11 was the trigger for a bigger scheme in seeing certain countries and civilizations destroyed in some modern recreation of the biblical tales recounting the destruction of Egypt and Persia and who are waging their own private war against it.

Put another way, as stated by U.S. Admiral William Fallon, former Commander of CENTCOM, revealing that he was just one amongst a larger group of powerful individuals working in close cooperation in preventing the next phase of a period of overt American hostilities in the Middle East–‘There are several of us trying to put the crazies back in the box.’

And the reason why at this time Trump no doubt has help from these kinds of powerful forces ‘trying to put the crazies back in the box’ can be summed up in 2 words–Marco Rubio.

Again, as indicated earlier, Rubio is clearly the ‘Golden boy’ and the favored son in terms of Likud’s plans for re-capturing the White House after 8 difficult years under Barack Obama. Rubio has garnered the affections of virtually the entire Neocon/Likud establishment in the U.S., from Jewish billionaires like Sheldon Adelson and Paul Singer to the uber-vocal support of the same jermites responsible for engineering the election of George W. Bush in 2000 and in steering his administration into launching the present wars in the Middle East that were originally cooked up in the infamous 1996 policy paper ‘A Clean Break’ written for then-Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Rubio, in all his statements and policy positions, from his slavish, prostitute-esque willingness to engage in whatever greasy, sleazy task is demanded of him from ‘Big daddy’–meaning Israel, including but not limited to war against Iran and even war against nuclear-armed Russia, has made Kristol clear the fact that he is a creature of Likud, and on this basis, all can be confident of the fact that the moment he strolls into the White House, the United States and indeed the entire world will step into a time machine of sorts and be transported back to the good ol’ days of George W. Bush, the man once-described by Russian President Vladimir Putin as a maniac waving a razor blade in peoples’ faces. The present ‘Arab Spring’–The Neolib mechanism of destroying the Middle East for Israel’s benefit through the covert use of proxies–will be replaced with the overt use of American military power, and the world will watch in horror as the U.S. resumes its previous silver screen role as Lord High Executioner of millions of Syrians, Iranians, Lebanese, and just about every other group of persons Israel has decided needs to be massacred.

And as hard as it is to imagine, given the immensity of the American-wrought death and destruction that’s taken place in the Middle East over the last 25 years with both the collusion and cooperation of the Intelligence and Military establishments in the US, nevertheless there are semi-sane persons within both institutions who recognize the nature of the game being played, who have calculated the trajectory to all of it and who for reasons related to their own self-preservation have decided that it has to stop. Doing the same kind of numbers game that Trump himself would do in overseeing a particular business venture, these same types understand that the mathematics involved in the 2016 election are very simple and yet very serious, namely that Marco Rubio + 1600 Pennsylvania Ave = the dissolution of the United States.

It is for this reason therefore that intelligent watchers of the present political drama can rightly speculate that indeed there is more to the candidacy of one Donald J. Trump than meets the eye…That at the vortex of this contest is a massive power struggle taking place, albeit in ways which seem to elude the notice of the average Joe 6-pack, and that in terms of human history, nothing in the past can compare in terms of the high stakes that are now involved. It must be remembered that the types likely helping Trump along in this endeavor are professionals, types who understand human psychology like a master chef understands spices and recipes and who know exactly how to tickle, tweak, tantalize, and titillate the raw emotions of large groups of people in order to get the reaction needed for certain geo-political aims. It is these types therefore likely coaching Trump on certain positions he has taken, from the ‘celebrating Muslims on 9/11’ to halting Muslim immigration to his contrarian statements on the destruction of Iraq and Libya to keeping Assad in power and of repairing relations with Russia.

Trump–A Clear and Present Danger to ‘Greater Israel’

All of which of course can have but one result as far as ‘America’s only ally’ in the Middle East is concerned–Fury, rage, panic, paranoia and everything in between on the part of Benjamin Netanyahu and his extended Likud family, who are now looking at the prospect of another 4 (8?) years of intransigence, obfuscation and humiliation due to yet another American president who refuses to ‘get with the plan’.

And it is for this reason therefore that these types, driven by the mad, maniacal, messianic operating system on their mental hard drives, have–as evidenced in the news coverage and daily commentary taking place everyday–‘downgraded’ Trump’s status as a potential Presidential candidate. Day by day, like a pack of hyenas surrounding a lion, they nip at his heels in attempting to wear him out and drive him off of the Pridelands. Never before in US history–save for the Likud-engineered cacophony surrounding the Monica Lewinsky affair–has a politician or someone running for public office been subjected to the kind of relentless, open, no-holds-barred evisceration on the part of organized Jewish interests as witnessed as of late involving the candidacy of Donald Trump.

More importantly, as far as Trump, the United States and indeed an entire world standing on the precipice of an Israeli-engineered nuclear war are concerned, the ‘Teflon Don’ has been declared not just persona non grata, but indeed, the walking dead. All of his positions, including his heretical statements concerning an ‘undivided Jerusalem’ (which Netanyahu & co view as the capital of their future Caliphate) coupled with his positions regarding Syria, Iraq, Libya, Iran, Russia, China, etc, have made clear to Netanyahu & co that the mathematics involved in the 2016 election are–as far as their thousands-of-years-old designs are concerned, very simple and yet very serious-

Donald Trump + 1600 Pennsylvania Ave = the dissolution of ‘Greater Israel’

…For if indeed, as speculated here, there is a concerted effort on the part of well-placed and well-resourced individuals to put a halt to the present ‘clash of civilizations’ that threatens to bring about the very Apocalypse that has been the predictive stuff of prophets and prognosticators for thousands of years, it may very well be not just a minor interruption for a period of 4 or 8 years, but rather a dismantling of the entire nightmare, brick by brick, not one stone being left upon another, until finally, not a moment too soon, the nightmare of Zionism and of Jewish power is brought to an end in a modern day re-creation of Rome’s destruction of Judea in 70 A.D.

And it is for this reason then that Trump lives everyday of his candidacy in the crosshairs of Netanyahu, the man who characterized the death and destruction taking place on 9/11 as ‘good’ in that it would generate ‘immediate sympathy for Israel’.

Remember as well, that as far a Netanyahu and his extended family in Likud are concerned, the ‘Caliphate’ known as ‘Greater Israel’ is not considered something transitory or trivial. It is nothing short of the will of Yahweh, the ‘god’ of the Jews, who made it Kristol clear thousands of years ago the nature of this particular real estate deal known as Israel–

‘On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abraham, saying “To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river Euphrates”…–Genesis, 15:18

And the only distinction that exists amongst those who adhere to particulars of this property deed is whether the piece of property in question starts at the Nile and moves eastward to the Euphrates, encompassing almost the entirety of the Middle East, or whether it begins at the Nile and moves westward tens of thousands of miles until it meets up with the Euphrates, encompassing almost the entire earth.

Either way, that Donald Trump lives everyday of his life with a Judaic curse on his person is no longer some wild eyed/anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. Applying the same reasoning that the Judaic leadership used in maneuvering and marshaling the forces under their control at the time in having a pesky rebel named Jesus of Nazareth removed from the political scenery, so too have the great, great grandchildren of yesteryear’s Kosher Nostra Godfathers met in secret today, asking with obvious panic–

‘What are we to do with this man’?

–only to receive as a response–

‘You fools, you know nothing. Is it not better that one man die than that an entire nation perish?’

[oldrider]

Well lets look carefully at some of your posts

Take the log of wood from your eye and actually see the world around you - you are not stupid simply misguided and blinded by erroneous preconceptions. :blip:

[Akzle]

Take the log of wood from your eye and actually see the world around you - you are not stupid simply misguided and blinded by erroneous preconceptions. :blip:

wouldn't go that far old son! I think you're dealing with a genuine really-fucken-stupid cunt.

[Voltaire]

I am rather surprised at how just how little you are concerned about how totally Jewish Donald Trump is...........:lol:
But wow he's sure a cretin, I fully expect him to get at least 40 percent of the votes regardless......

Should be a poll, I'm betting on Donald.

re Oll Fullas posts, does anyone really read those looooog cut and pastes and watch the equally long videos?

[Katman]

wouldn't go that far old son! I think you're dealing with a genuine really-fucken-stupid cunt.

Quoted for emphasis.

[awa355]

,,,,,, does anyone really read those looooog cut and pastes and watch the equally long videos?

About 30 seconds is enough to see if it is an open viewpoint, or someone's one-sided opinion.

[yokel]

Drama at the RNC!

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[oldrider]

Should be a poll, I'm betting on Donald.

re Oll Fullas posts, does anyone really read those looooog cut and pastes and watch the equally long videos?

The post of Donald Trumps acceptance speech was long for sure but not everybody gets a chance to see or hear it so I posted it in the appropriate thread! (IMHO)

Whether or not anyone else wants to view it is their own personal choice but Husasensor tries to prevent that choice by washing it as far away from view as possible!

[oldrider]

The Donald has openly challenged the "Globalists" in his acceptance speech - is he now a dead man walking?

WHO IS THE REAL THREAT TO WORLD PEACE? CHRISTIANS, JEWS, OR MUSLIMS (The US, Israel, or Iran)!

Scroll down a little and read the record here: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/dangertopeace.php

The USA war record is long and violent but MSM insists that Iran is the danger to world peace??? - Decide for your selves! :scratch:

[bogan]

I am rather surprised at how just how little you are concerned about how totally Jewish Donald Trump is...........:lol:
But wow he's sure a cretin, I fully expect him to get at least 40 percent of the votes regardless......

He's also the biggest fucking puppet who ran. Just look at how quickly he has reversed, changed, or forgotten about his campaign promises. He'll say whatever he thinks it takes to get into power, and then do whatever he thinks it takes to stay there. We've seen a good leader (Obama) blocked from doing his thing despite the logic and public support for it; so we'll see a terrible leader just cave in and be blocked/pushed around as well. Donald just can't deliver, look at all the other shit he's been involved in.

[WristTwister]

Drama at the RNC!



:kick:
Cenk vs Alex
:argue:
Hilary vs Donald

Alien vs Predator

Whoever wins... we lose.

[oldrider]

This is what the mad husasensor is going on about - I posted this for KB members to view (or not) at their pleasure/leisure! (personal choice)

The Donald has delivered this acceptance speech - it's quite powerful stuff - he has attacked some really powerful people - will he survive? - or is he just a lot of BS?

The speech is long and repetitive - if you can stand it - it is interesting because it will affect us one way or another! :eek:

<iframe width="450" height="350" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/42418toh02M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Only time will tell.

[husaberg]

He's also the biggest fucking puppet who ran. Just look at how quickly he has reversed, changed, or forgotten about his campaign promises. He'll say whatever he thinks it takes to get into power, and then do whatever he thinks it takes to stay there. We've seen a good leader (Obama) blocked from doing his thing despite the logic and public support for it; so we'll see a terrible leader just cave in and be blocked/pushed around as well. Donald just can't deliver, look at all the other shit he's been involved in.

Think back to the 2005 Labour led government here
Remember how they had to take on Winston Peters to stay in power.
They gave him the deputy leader position and more importantly the minister of foreign affairs portfolio.
At the time it was seen as being total lunacy given his views and propensity to make outlandish Trump like statements.

Guess what happened they effectively did what no one else has been ever able to do and totally gagged him....
how.
As deputy leader and minister of foreign affairs everything single word he says first has to be carefully vetted and censored by high ranking government servants to prevent upsetting others.


Donald's a lowest common denominator kind of person similar to Peters. except Donald wont even listen to his own people.
I wouldn't say Donalds a puppet, he's more a like the tin man.
I would like to think the yanks will vote for someone who could actually do the job rather than get the most publicity, but well we will see.

[husaberg]

Should be a poll, I'm betting on Donald.

re Oll Fullas posts, does anyone really read those looooog cut and pastes and watch the equally long videos?
I doubt anyone does, or watches katmans videos either.


The Donald has openly challenged the "Globalists" in his acceptance speech - is he now a dead man walking?

WHO IS THE REAL THREAT TO WORLD PEACE? CHRISTIANS, JEWS, OR MUSLIMS (The US, Israel, or Iran)!

Scroll down a little and read the record here: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/dangertopeace.php
The USA war record is long and violent but MSM insists that Iran is the danger to world peace??? - Decide for your selves! :scratch:

Take the log of wood from your eye and actually see the world around you - you are not stupid simply misguided and blinded by erroneous preconceptions. :blip:

The post of Donald Trumps acceptance speech was long for sure but not everybody gets a chance to see or hear it so I posted it in the appropriate thread! (IMHO)

Whether or not anyone else wants to view it is their own personal choice but Husasensor tries to prevent that choice by washing it as far away from view as possible!


But like it or not you are effected by it and (like everybody else) have probably been conditioned to simply accept it without question!

Test your subconscious: You will probably be automatically repulsed at the video clip below but do you actually know why you react like that? - :scratch:


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Repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the height of stupidity - you fool nobody but yourself - wanker! :tugger:

As said before Oscar is mind over matter - I don't mind because Oscar simply does not matter!:whistle:

Meanwhile thread returned to OP and the very current and vital subject of the Armenian genocidal holocaust! - :motu: yours Oscar!

For someone who claims "to only want open discussion" you certainly object rather loudly to close scrutiny to what you post.........

[puddytat]

I personally watch the Iranian press tv a lot for world news....it doesn't have the propaganda aspect of CNN or Russia today (although RT does have lots of sexy woman on it).
Ive given up on NZ news as thats more like Womans Weekly rather than serious informative news.
PressTV seems to actually have a way fairer & balanced coverage of many items as well as some very good documentaries. Plus they never slag off any countries politics or society , which is something that the western MSM seems so shrill about.

[puddytat]

1 user & 24 guests at the time of posting I see.....mmmmm, I wonder whos watching who?:shifty:

[puddytat]

gone up to 1 user & 33 now....:wink:

[husaberg]

gone up to 1 user & 33 now....:wink:

It was at 38 when I looked most, are likely caterpillars and spiders trawling the net for google and other search engines etc

[yokel]

:kick:
Cenk vs Alex
:argue:
Hilary vs Donald

Alien vs Predator

Whoever wins... we lose.

Looks like Cenk/TYT lost.
Leftists are mental ill bitches

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[oldrider]

For someone who claims "to only want open discussion" you certainly object rather loudly to close scrutiny to what you post.........

You really are the most desperately insecure fellah I think I have ever come across! :blip: Whatever smokes your tyres mate! :rolleyes: - whatever smokes your tyres! :facepalm:

[oldrider]

Missing from the US electoral debate: U.S. Aid to Israel: http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/missing-from-the-debate-u-s-aid-to-israel/ :corn:

[husaberg]

You really are the most desperately insecure fellah I think I have ever come across! :blip: Whatever smokes your tyres mate! :rolleyes: - whatever smokes your tyres! :facepalm:
Really, I debate with facts, you rely on innuendo and old wives tales gleaned from white supremacist sites........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtEkRpGpHE8

[Oscar]

You really are the most desperately insecure fellah I think I have ever come across! :blip: Whatever smokes your tyres mate! :rolleyes: - whatever smokes your tyres! :facepalm:

Speaking of insecure, how's that whole thing where you post stuff from the arse end of the web and then fail to either back it up with facts, or even to discuss it?

Tell us about the Jerusalem Lay Lines, or the German Economy under Hitler in the 30's or maybe even the Myth of antisemitism...these are all things you brought up and then refused to discuss.
Gutless twat.

[Voltaire]

Getting in early with this live update...
Some Mossad thing.:wacko:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07/22/nice-munich/

[oldrider]

Speaking of insecure, how's that whole thing where you post stuff from the arse end of the web and then fail to either back it up with facts, or even to discuss it?

Tell us about the Jerusalem Lay Lines, or the German Economy under Hitler in the 30's or maybe even the Myth of antisemitism...these are all things you brought up and then refused to discuss.
Gutless twat.

Oink! - Oink! - Oink! - :blip: - (written so that Oscar can understand it) :yeah:

[husaberg]

Speaking of insecure, how's that whole thing where you post stuff from the arse end of the web and then fail to either back it up with facts, or even to discuss it?

Tell us about the Jerusalem Lay Lines, or the German Economy under Hitler in the 30's or maybe even the Myth of antisemitism...these are all things you brought up and then refused to discuss.
Gutless twat.

Don't forget the bit where he admitted he only posts racist stuff on KB to troll for attention

Ever watched a child with a bow on a piece of string and a kitten? - much the same as the KB forums only the know it alls replace the kittens! :corn:

[Oscar]

Oink! - Oink! - Oink! - :blip: - (written so that Oscar can understand it) :yeah:

You sad old twat.
Why do even post stuff that you obviously don't understand?

[oldrider]

Don't forget the bit where he admitted he only posts racist stuff on KB to troll for attention

Another post by another consummate KB illusion! :yes:

[husaberg]

Another post by another consummate KB illusion! :yes:
Yet another post were you avoid any questions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GyxltSZlFY

[WristTwister]

I think Trump is too radical* to win to be honest, I think the Republicans screwed up. Trump is insincere and just says what people want to hear to chase the populist vote, that's why he gets ambiguous when pressed on policies.

I'm not saying Hilary Clinton is a saint or anything, but compared to Trump, she comes across as a moderate. After 2 terms of Obama the Republicans should have a serious contender - because I don't think Trump is.

Honestly I'd prefer it if Romney was running against Clinton, because at least he is a capable businessman who still understood middle-america.

(waits for the :bash: for having an opinion)

[husaberg]

I think Trump is too radical* to win to be honest, I think the Republicans screwed up. Trump is insincere and just says what people want to hear to chase the populist vote, that's why he gets ambiguous when pressed on policies.

I'm not saying Hilary Clinton is a saint or anything, but compared to Trump, she comes across as a moderate. After 2 terms of Obama the Republicans should have a serious contender - because I don't think Trump is.

Honestly I'd prefer it if Romney was running against Clinton, because at least he is a capable businessman who still understood middle-america.

(waits for the :bash: for having an opinion)

All I will say about Trump is his own campaign people choose to leave when it looked like he would get the nomination, as they didn't want to be part of helping him screw up the party.
http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

oh plus and hes' a cretin.....

[WristTwister]

All I will say about Trump is his own campaign people choose to leave when it looked like he would get the nomination, as they didn't want to be part of helping him screw up the party.
http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

oh plus and hes' a cretin.....

Hmm.... can he be trusted to keep his word or is he really only in it for himself and is just paying everyone some lip service until he's sworn in.:sweatdrop

[Katman]

oh plus and hes' a cretin.....

<img src="http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1137148/images/o-EXTREME-IRONING-facebook.jpg"/>

[Virago]

Trump is insincere and just says what people want to hear to chase the populist vote, that's why he gets ambiguous when pressed on policies...

Nonsense - nothing clearer than this answer...

Donald Trump answers the question: What is 2+2? (Credit: Steven Edwards)

"I have to say a lot of people have been asking this question. No, really. A lot of people come up to me and they ask me. They say, 'What's 2+2'? And I tell them look, we know what 2+2 is. We've had almost eight years of the worst kind of math you can imagine. Oh my God, I can't believe it. Addition and subtraction of the 1s the 2s and the 3s. It's terrible. It's just terrible. Look, if you want to know what 2+2 is, do you want to know what 2+2 is? I'll tell you. First of all the number 2, by the way, I love the number 2. It's probably my favorite number, no it is my favorite number. You know what, it's probably more like the number two but with a lot of zeros behind it. A lot. If I'm being honest, I mean, if I'm being honest. I like a lot of zeros. Except for Marco Rubio, now he's a zero that I don't like. Though, I probably shouldn't say that. He's a nice guy but he's like, '10101000101,' on and on, like that. He's like a computer! You know what I mean? He's like a computer. I don't know. I mean, you know. So, we have all these numbers, and we can add them and subtract them and add them. TIMES them even. Did you know that? We can times them OR divide them, they don't tell you that, and I'll tell you, no one is better at the order of operations than me. You wouldn't believe it. So, we're gonna be the best on 2+2, believe me."

[Voltaire]

Neither...but who will win?
I'll Yokel it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/5-reasons-why-trump-will-_b_11156794.html

[husaberg]

Hmm.... can he be trusted to keep his word or is he really only in it for himself and is just paying everyone some lip service until he's sworn in.:sweatdrop

He can't possibly keep all the things he has promised, The US president doesn't actually have that sort of power, he needs senate and congress support. which he won't have.
Hes just saying what he hopes will get him elected and hoping everyone will forget what he promised.
The fact hes got this far, is a sad reflection the US society and an clear indictment of all that's wrong in US politics. Frankly he's just an attention whore with daddy issues (like Katman.)


,,,,,,,,

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f6/d6/10/f6d6105421ee95861971ef89d1764eef.jpg

[jasonu]

He can't possibly keep all the things he has promised.
Hes just saying what he hopes will get him elected and hoping everyone will forget what he promised.

The fact hes got this far, is a sad reflection on the rest of the US politicians which most of the country are sick to the back teeth of and hence are willing to vote for a non traditional candidate just to be rid of the usual pricks and an clear indictment of all that's wrong in US politics. Frankly he's just an attention whore with daddy issues (like Katman.)

He will be getting my vote. Best of a bad bunch. If Hillary gets in (and I expect that will happen) she will be worse than that cunt Aunty Helen and who the fuck voted for her 3 times??? I still can't see how all you dimwits let her get in and stay in for so long. National must have been total shit in those sorry days.



Your first 2 statements can be applied to most if not all politicians from (insert any country name here).

[Oscar]

Another post by another consummate KB illusion! :yes:

Tell us about the German Economy in the 1930's o wise one...

[Voltaire]

Tell us about the German Economy in the 1930's o wise one...


You needed a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread!!!

Result as we all know was Wheelbarrow sales skyrocketed, probably made my the Goldman Sachs Wheelbarrow Company.

[husaberg]

Your first 2 statements can be applied to most if not all politicians from (insert any country name here).

Possibly, but I have never seen the hyperbole pushed to that extreme extent, A hint at things to come for subsequent us elections, Reality tv elections might now be the norm in all future US elections
Maybe Kayne West is actually going to be the first Sauvé Gansta president and Kim Kardasian will be your first porn star first lady.

[WristTwister]

Possibly, but I have never seen the hyperbole pushed to that extreme extent, A hint at things to come for subsequent us elections, Reality tv elections might now be the norm in all future US elections
Maybe Kane West is actually going to be the first Sauvé Gansta president and Kim Kardasian will be your first porn star first lady.

I was thinking of something more like Survivor maybe?

We could send all the politicians to some island somewhere. Nauru (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/05/nauru-detention-centre-suicide-160517120527051.html) perhaps.

[jasonu]

Maybe Kane West is actually going to be the first Sauvé Gansta president and Kim Kardasian will be your first porn star first lady.

Those 2 seem to be way more popular in NZ than here. Every time I open the Harold one or both of them are mentioned in the headlines.

[husaberg]

I was thinking of something more like Survivor maybe?

We could send all the politicians to some island somewhere. Nauru (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/05/nauru-detention-centre-suicide-160517120527051.html) perhaps.
Mururoa or bikini Atoll maybe, but id rather they send a year at Chernobyl.

Those 2 seem to be way more popular in NZ than here. Every time I open the Harold one or both of them are mentioned in the headlines.
Pretty sure the old Kardasians now have their own channel on sky. They only get mentioned in the papers as the ugly ones ass and his ego are now visible from space.:facepalm:
Regardless we don't really need Kayne and Kim K here, as we already have katman and akzle as the resident attention whore couple.

[WristTwister]

Mururoa or bikini Atoll maybe, but id rather they send a year at Chernobyl.

Pretty sure the old Kardasians now have their own channel on sky. They only get mentioned in the papers as the ugly ones ass and his ego are now visible from space.:facepalm:
Regardless we don't really need Kayne and Kim K here, as we already have katman and akzle as the resident attention whore couple.

BRAVO! the Keeping up with the Kardashians channel. There is also a new show for Caitlyn Jenner (I am Cait). Kanye West launched some new shoes earlier this year and people camped outside the stores in Wellington.

[husaberg]

BRAVO! the Keeping up with the Kardashians channel. There is also a new show for Caitlyn Jenner (I am Cait). Kanye West launched some new shoes earlier this year and people camped outside the stores in Wellington.

Rather fitting, The one I never thought of, is the one that actually had talent and deserved to be famous (as an Olympic gold medallist anyway)....
Girls and shoes cliché aye........
I honestly couldn't same a single Kayne west song.....

[WristTwister]

Rather fitting, The one I never thought of, is the one that actually had talent and deserved to be famous (as an Olympic gold medallist anyway)....
Girls and shoes cliché aye........
I honestly couldn't same a single Kayne west song.....

Yeezy's shoes fly out the door! (http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/fashion/80963203/Kanye-Wests-new-Yeezy-sneakers-fly-out-the-door)

And this song wasn't bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vwNcNOTVzY

[husaberg]

Yeezy's shoes fly out the door! (http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/fashion/80963203/Kanye-Wests-new-Yeezy-sneakers-fly-out-the-door)

And this song wasn't bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vwNcNOTVzY

Well who ever said money can't buy you taste.....
PS their f-ing hideous.
ok I do recognise the song and the video is not without a certain artistic merit:shifty:.....but never knew it was $anyes
The thing I remember most is its blues inspired backing vocals.

[Voltaire]

Who can forget his awesome motorcycle road trip vid...

Haven't see that level of bike riding skills since The Wild One.

( may contain nudity- probably contains nuts)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBAtAM7vtgc

[WristTwister]

Who can forget his awesome motorcycle road trip vid...

Haven't see that level of bike riding skills since The Wild One.

( may contain nudity- probably contains nuts)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBAtAM7vtgc

... but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time. One of the best of all time!

[husaberg]

... but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time. One of the best of all time!

Impossible as the two best motorcycle music videos are these two
this one about Casey Stoner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC7PEQnjKl4
Plus this one about Mick Doohans 1995 NSR500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HDdjwpPM3Y

[yokel]

Pitiful anti-Trump add.

Only a retards like Husaberg would be moved by this vomit.

No way Hillary can win, well not honestly.


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[husaberg]

Pitiful anti-Trump add.

Only a retards like Husaberg would be moved by this vomit.

No way Hillary can win, well not honestly.

"some lame video"


Only dullards like you and katman would seriously expect people to watch it.
This video surfaced, is this you yokel? he's voting trump, even though he's an Aussie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RjC-vh06_c

[oldrider]

The media are on the case but which case is that and who's agenda do they serve? :scratch:

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[Katman]

Even though I despise the guy, I hope that Trump wins - just for the lulz. (I despise the war-mongering bitch Clinton even more).

I'm still trying to work out what Bernie's game is though. :scratch:

[Voltaire]

Even though I despise the guy, I hope that Trump wins - just for the lulz. (I despise the war-mongering bitch Clinton even more).

I'm still trying to work out what Bernie's game is though. :scratch:

People voting for Trumph are tired of the system in its current form, and are anti Clinton, however the cure might be more painful than the

disease for more than just the US.

Bernie has probably been brow beaten into " anyone but Trumph"

Going to be an interesting 4 months of sound and video bites for MSM

[oldrider]

People voting for Trumph are tired of the system in its current form, and are anti Clinton, however the cure might be more painful than the

disease for more than just the US.

Bernie has probably been brow beaten into " anyone but Trumph"

Going to be an interesting 4 months of sound and video bites for MSM

Well you can be sure of one thing - it is all orchestrated and will have the outcome that some group or other desires - we are but pawns in the game!

Most Americans don't even know that there are presidential alternatives to Clinton and Trump FFS! :shutup:

[Oscar]

People voting for Trumph are tired of the system in its current form, and are anti Clinton, however the cure might be more painful than the

disease for more than just the US.

Bernie has probably been brow beaten into " anyone but Trumph"

Going to be an interesting 4 months of sound and video bites for MSM

I guess Bernie won't run as an independent because it would split the vote and guarantee Trump the win.
I am surprised that no moderate Republican has broken ranks and stepped forward as an independent.

I wonder what Ross Perot is up to...

[Oscar]

Most Americans don't even know that there are presidential alternatives to Clinton and Trump FFS! :shutup:

Don't assume that most Americans are as ignorant as you.

[oldrider]

Don't assume that most Americans are as ignorant as you.

Many happy returns insignificant one - your bullshit has been sorely missed. :rofl:

[jasonu]

Most Americans don't even know that there are presidential alternatives to Clinton and Trump FFS! :shutup:


That is because realistically there aren't any. A vote for anyone but Hillary or Donald would be like voting for (many years ago I know) Social Credit or the Values Party. Protest vote and all that...


'Most Americans'... did you take a poll or did you read that in the Harold?

[Oscar]

That is because realistically there aren't any. A vote for anyone but Hillary or Donald would be like voting for (many years ago I know) Social Credit or the Values Party. Protest vote and all that...


'Most Americans'... did you take a poll or did you read that in the Harold?

"Most Americans" would know the name Ross Perot, so as usual, the old git is full of it.

In respect of a protest vote, that has been known to change Governments - the NZ Party's 12.2% in 1984 (which didn't get them any seats) was very helpful to the Labour Party .

[jasonu]

In respect of a protest vote, that has been known to change Governments - the NZ Party's 12.2% in 1984 (which didn't get them any seats) was very helpful to the Labour Party .

Does anyone have a link to the clip of Robert Jones punching that reporter??? I've looked and can't find it anywhere.

[Voltaire]

Does anyone have a link to the clip of Robert Jones punching that reporter??? I've looked and can't find it anywhere.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11434172

[Voltaire]

"Most Americans" would know the name Ross Perot, so as usual, the old git is full of it.

In respect of a protest vote, that has been known to change Governments - the NZ Party's 12.2% in 1984 (which didn't get them any seats) was very helpful to the Labour Party .

Did that not kick off the move to MMP?

Surely a better system that FPP and a two horse race.

[Oscar]

Did that not kick off the move to MMP?

Surely a better system that FPP and a two horse race.

I think so.

The NZ Party got 12.2% for no seats, but Social Credit with 7.6% of the votes got 2 seats.

[oldrider]

That is because realistically there aren't any. A vote for anyone but Hillary or Donald would be like voting for (many years ago I know) Social Credit or the Values Party. Protest vote and all that...


'Most Americans'... did you take a poll or did you read that in the Harold?

Fair comment. - Look at the way MSM crucified Ron Paul by totally excluding him and got away with it.

Americans generally are so patriotic that they follow their leaders almost without question - just an observation from having been there and those that I have known!

Always liked Americans but have no faith in their governments - there's plenty of evidence of their faults - might be different if they were actually in control!

"IMO" - makes not much difference - tweedle dumb or tweedle dee - they are only puppets!

The interesting point being if Donald gets in and then finds out that he is not actually in charge only a figurehead - what will he do? :scratch:

Clinton on the other hand will do anything she is told - ANYTHING! :crazy:

[Voltaire]

A Puppet Show:
https://theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/uncle_sam_is_a_puppet.jpg

https://concisepolitics.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/aipac-puppet-master-of-us-congress-president-supreme-court-lesser-courts-state-houses.jpg

http://www.whitcoulls.co.nz/INTERSHOP/static/WFS/Whitcoulls-Shop-Site/-/Whitcoulls-Shop/en_NZ/product/57/09/402/2/resized_380x507.jpg

This one depicts Australia as the arm up the Kiwis Khyber.

http://snoopman.net.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/KeyRentaCrowdPuppets03.jpg

[jasonu]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11434172

Cheers for that.

[jasonu]

Did that not kick off the move to MMP?

Surely a better system that FPP and a two horse race.

I thought MMP was at least a couple or 3 elections after that.

[Voltaire]

I thought MMP was at least a couple or 3 elections after that.

Had to Google it....1996...but by 1984 people were pretty over the Muldoon era.

[oldrider]

A Puppet Show? - some sound claims for this?: This might help explain how and why some people think this is so!: https://heshamtillawi.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/the-israeli-occupation-of-america-how-israel-gained-control-of-american-foreign-policy-and-public-opinion/

[TheDemonLord]

Even though I despise the guy, I hope that Trump wins - just for the lulz. (I despise the war-mongering bitch Clinton even more).

I'm still trying to work out what Bernie's game is though. :scratch:

Interesting - apart from the War Mongering - what makes you choose Trump over Hilary?

(for the record - I would choose to abstain - I couldn't bring myself to implicitly support either of them)

[Brian d marge]

Just a quick note
Running mates
Hiltlary... Kaine.. council of foreign relations chair man... read trilateral commission, started by Kissinger and Zbiginew.. say no more

Mike pence
AIPAC... 100 % or more . Has accepted trips is Isreals no1 bum buddy

Well played boys .. we have been checkmated ..while watching the puppet show



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[Voltaire]

This might help explain how and why some people think this is so!: https://heshamtillawi.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/the-israeli-occupation-of-america-how-israel-gained-control-of-american-foreign-policy-and-public-opinion/

http://www.wordsandwar.com/2008/08/19/why-jews-run-the-world/


Did you know that Harrison Ford, George Burns, Tony Curtis, Charles Bronson, Sandra Bullock, Billy Crystal, Woody Allen, Paul Newman, Peter Sellers, Dustin Hoffman, Michael Douglas, Ben Kingsley, Kirk Douglas, William Shatner, Jerry Lewis and Peter Falk, are all Jewish?

OMG Captain Kirks Jewish....makes you wonder who the Klingons were.....

Oldrider....thats no more Paul Newmans on your salad....watching Star Wars, watching Gandhi, listening to the Goons, re runs of the Jerry Lewis show...list is endless.

[Katman]

Interesting - apart from the War Mongering - what makes you choose Trump over Hilary?

(for the record - I would choose to abstain - I couldn't bring myself to implicitly support either of them)

I predict that if Hillary becomes President, America will be at war with Iran within 12-24 months.

I don't think Trump has any interest in becoming embroiled in another Middle East war.

[oldrider]

http://www.wordsandwar.com/2008/08/19/why-jews-run-the-world/


OMG Captain Kirks Jewish....makes you wonder who the Klingons were.....

Oldrider....thats no more Paul Newmans on your salad....watching Star Wars, watching Gandhi, listening to the Goons, re runs of the Jerry Lewis show...list is endless.

For fucks sake! :rolleyes:

[Virago]

...OMG Captain Kirks Jewish....makes you wonder who the Klingons were...

Aah, I think you've identified the original shape-shifting lizard leaders...

[Brian d marge]

I predict that if Hillary becomes President, America will be at war with Iran within 12-24 months.

I don't think Trump has any interest in becoming embroiled in another Middle East war.
She has to payback the boys first ..and a Gummer aint going to cut it
If they can get their monies from the war ,they will
But the Chinese Li clan is flexing it's muscles...
Either way it will be .......
https://youtu.be/86URGgqONvA

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[TheDemonLord]

I predict that if Hillary becomes President, America will be at war with Iran within 12-24 months.

I don't think Trump has any interest in becoming embroiled in another Middle East war.

Do you not however think that Trump's rhetoric might spark an incident that will descend into a war? He certainly has said some inflammatory (and Nail>Head) statements, that could incite the wrong people.

[Katman]

Do you not however think that Trump's rhetoric might spark an incident that will descend into a war? He certainly has said some inflammatory (and Nail>Head) statements, that could incite the wrong people.

I don't think so.

I just think he makes people facepalm.

[ellipsis]

Do you not however think that Trump's rhetoric might spark an incident that will descend into a war? He certainly has said some inflammatory (and Nail>Head) statements, that could incite the wrong people.


...can you define the term, 'wrong people', please...links etc...

[TheDemonLord]

...can you define the term, 'wrong people', please...links etc...

Well - that's the thing, there are so many people to choose from who are so upset at some of his statements that they seem to think he is the Antichrist.

[Katman]

Well - that's the thing, there are so many people to choose from who are so upset at some of his statements that they seem to think he is the Antichrist.

Well, if he's assassinated I bet it won't be by the people you're thinking of.

[TheDemonLord]

Well, if he's assassinated I bet it won't be by the people you're thinking of.

Well - that's the thing - you have the SJW crowd, BLM, Feminists, Islamists, the Regressive Left, Mexicans - in fact, didn't one of them already try?

[Brian d marge]

Well - that's the thing, there are so many people to choose from who are so upset at some of his statements that they seem to think he is the Antichrist.
Gog and Magog maybe

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[oldrider]

Look back and see the real president of the USA/Israeli alliance in congress getting standing ovations from the senate while the US pretender skulked in the shadows!

The parasites have completely consumed the host simply waiting until the next scapegoat gets settled in and the demolition of threatening powers will resume.

Donald has already declared that he is completely against the Iran deal and that he will demolish that immediately as soon as he gains office!

Two heads of the same coin? - what can possibly go wrong? - Syria is no longer a threat - goodbye Iran! - :bye:

If Donald does get in and does not comply he will follow JFK out the exit door and Mike Pence will take up the cudgels just as LBJ did post JFK!

The stage is set - all we the observers have left to do is watch the movie! :corn:

[Voltaire]

War is about all they can do as all the other industries are either in China or Mexico and the Mexicans are going to be busy wall builiding.

Wasn't Bills speech lovely :love::love:, no mention of his other loves like Monica...

obligatory You Tube Clip.

an old fav from the late 70's


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBGPw_LBiRA

[oldrider]

The "Truth"(????) about the Iranian nuclear talks? From way back in Feb 2012 - What has transpired since then? (Long and boring but if interested in the subject)

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[Brian d marge]

I think JFK was shown the exit door , for trying to control the central bank ( can't remember how off top of head) also different bloodline and finally that 1961 speech didn't help


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[bogan]

can't remember how off top of head

Yeh, why get bogged down with detail like plausibility of theory eh... Just jump on the victim blaming wagon again, full steam ahead to the trumpocalypse!

[Katman]

Yeh, why get bogged down with detail like plausibility of theory eh... Just jump on the victim blaming wagon again, full steam ahead to the trumpocalypse!

Google 'Executive Order No 11110'.

[bogan]

Google 'Executive Order No 11110'.

Google, 'get fucked katman'; cos it's been said before, and it'll be said again. It also has arguably more relevance...

[Madness]

Google, 'get fucked katman'; cos it's been said before, and it'll be said again. It also has arguably more relevance...

Highly conclusive internet poll. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/137571-Should-Katman-shut-the-fuck-up)

[Katman]

Google, 'get fucked katman'; cos it's been said before, and it'll be said again. It also has arguably more relevance...

You really don't like getting educated, do you?

[bogan]

You really don't like getting educated, do you?

One could ask you the same; made any more progress on those vaccination journal articles? or do you think education means 'just asking questions' and still skipping the whole, taking on board the answers bit?

[Brian d marge]

I think I ,also googled and use the phrase
Then queried whether or not the recipient understood the said phrase
I now see that even simple requests are quite a struggle for the challenged

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[husaberg]

Google, 'get fucked katman'; cos it's been said before, and it'll be said again. It also has arguably more relevance...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9SkO1TKjEo

[Brian d marge]

dont need to watch all ,but the first few min tells u why Jim marr suggested Kennedy had troubles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcmqWvbRMU



(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcmqWvbRMU)

[oldrider]

Who or what can you believe in America? :mellow:

Bernie Delegate: DNC is Replacing Sanders Supporters With Paid Seat Fillers to Create Fake Unity
Dem establishment desperate to avoid optics of half-empty convention

http://www.infowars.com/bernie-delegate-dnc-is-replacing-sanders-supporters-with-paid-seat-fillers-to-create-fake-unity/ :shifty:

[Brian d marge]

Not sure if I posted here ... ( Trump Mike pence .. AIPAC..). ( Hitlary Tim Kaine council on foreign relations , or as it used to be. The trilateral commission... )

We have been played like a fish ...

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[Virago]

Who or what can you believe in America? :mellow:

Bernie Delegate: DNC is Replacing Sanders Supporters With Paid Seat Fillers to Create Fake Unity
Dem establishment desperate to avoid optics of half-empty convention

http://www.infowars.com/bernie-delegate-dnc-is-replacing-sanders-supporters-with-paid-seat-fillers-to-create-fake-unity/ :shifty:

Meh. It seems that it's a common practice at American political rallies to use paid seat fillers. Jeb Bush did it in the final days of his campaign.

[husaberg]

Who or what can you believe in America? :mellow:

Bernie Delegate: DNC is Replacing Sanders Supporters With Paid Seat Fillers to Create Fake Unity
Dem establishment desperate to avoid optics of half-empty convention

http://www.infowars.com/bernie-delegate-dnc-is-replacing-sanders-supporters-with-paid-seat-fillers-to-create-fake-unity/ :shifty:

info wars the source of your link, is Alex Jones own conspiracy blog. its just like Alex Jones total bollocks.


Jones has been the center of many controversies, including his controversial statements about gun control in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. He has accused the U.S. government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing the September 11 attacks and the filming of fake Moon landings to hide NASA's secret technology.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDlJRX-YKKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvWiH_hm7D4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz2NjfPNMgY

[mashman]

Not sure if I posted here ... ( Trump Mike pence .. AIPAC..). ( Hitlary Tim Kaine council on foreign relations , or as it used to be. The trilateral commission... )

We have been played like a fish ...

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Nahhhhhhhh, shirley not.

"Wasserman Schultz previously served in the Florida House of Representatives and the Florida Senate, and was campaign co-chair for Hillary Clinton's unsuccessful 2008 run for president."

"On April 5, 2011, Vice President Joe Biden announced that Wasserman Schultz was President Barack Obama's choice to succeed Tim Kaine as the 52nd Chair of the Democratic National Committee."

"On July 22, 2016, Hillary Clinton announced that she had selected Kaine to be her running mate in the 2016 presidential election, and on July 27, 2016, the 2016 Democratic National Convention nominated him as their candidate for vice president."

"Wasserman Schultz agreed to resign her position as chairperson of the Democratic National Committee after the 2016 Democratic National Convention,[3] and was immediately enlisted by Hillary Clinton as honorary chair of her campaign."

[Brian d marge]

Nahhhhhhhh, shirley not.

"Wasserman Schultz previously served in the Florida House of Representatives and the Florida Senate, and was campaign co-chair for Hillary Clinton's unsuccessful 2008 run for president."

"On April 5, 2011, Vice President Joe Biden announced that Wasserman Schultz was President Barack Obama's choice to succeed Tim Kaine as the 52nd Chair of the Democratic National Committee."

"On July 22, 2016, Hillary Clinton announced that she had selected Kaine to be her running mate in the 2016 presidential election, and on July 27, 2016, the 2016 Democratic National Convention nominated him as their candidate for vice president."

"Wasserman Schultz agreed to resign her position as chairperson of the Democratic National Committee after the 2016 Democratic National Convention,[3] and was immediately enlisted by Hillary Clinton as honorary chair of her campaign."
Hang on I've just seen a Pokemon

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[mashman]

Hang on I've just seen a Pokemon

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http://pocketmedia.ign.com/media/news/image/pokemonoftheday/_gspokes/179.gif

[oldrider]

Federal reserve operates independently from Government or anybody else - they are above the law! (Does Donald understand this yet?)

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[mashman]

Federal reserve operates independently from Government or anybody else - they are above the law! (Does Donald understand this yet?)

Forgive them for they know not what they do?

[oldrider]

Forgive them for they know not what they do? Debatable - there are those who believe and argue that they do know and that is why they require "specific" candidates for president!

Hillary is perfect and fit for their purpose! - If this is right she should get the job irrespective! :wait:

Donald ticks all the boxes and appears to be perfect but is too unpredictable and liable to backfire and go out of control! - could be very untidy! - :corn:

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[pete376403]

The Donald doesn't care about the American banking system (they wont lend to him anyway) - these days he gets his funding from Russia.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing

[bogan]

But that's the point isn't it. He will be piss easy to control, and always has been due to his ineptitude and greed. Has there ever been a candidate less likely to face off against "big banking"? I mean, the sheer stupidity of those who look to him to save them from "the man" is staggering. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy is not having a good year :no: And it is due to one reason only, uninformed twats who think they should have just as much say as people who know what they are talking about.

[Voltaire]

But that's the point isn't it. He will be piss easy to control, and always has been due to his ineptitude and greed. Has there ever been a candidate less likely to face off against "big banking"? I mean, the sheer stupidity of those who look to him to save them from "the man" is staggering. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy is not having a good year :no: And it is due to one reason only, uninformed twats who think they should have just as much say as people who know what they are talking about.

There is a lot of stupid about. Ford is looking at closing their engine factories in the UK as why bother when they go to Europe and then 30% of them come back in vehicles. Dagenham voted 61% to leave the EU :crazy:
I lived in Dagenham for a bit and the Ford factory was huge there, took up one side of the road for miles.

Historically people are stupid, believing in invisible friends, martians, wars that start over nothing,the govt will look after you etc.

[mashman]

But that's the point isn't it. He will be piss easy to control, and always has been due to his ineptitude and greed. Has there ever been a candidate less likely to face off against "big banking"? I mean, the sheer stupidity of those who look to him to save them from "the man" is staggering. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy is not having a good year :no: And it is due to one reason only, uninformed twats who think they should have just as much say as people who know what they are talking about.

Michael Tellinger v's the banks springs to mind.

:killingme@uninformed twats. You mean people who have chosen a particular understanding of a party's summarised goals? :nya:

[mashman]

Debatable - there are those who believe and argue that they do know and that is why they require "specific" candidates for president!

Hillary is perfect and fit for their purpose! - If this is right she should get the job irrespective! :wait:

Donald ticks all the boxes and appears to be perfect but is too unpredictable and liable to backfire and go out of control! - could be very untidy! - :corn:

So many beliefs and so little time. Some day someone will ignore the sideshow and will play their own game. Can't wait to see what happens when that happens... hell, it may even become contagious and the world will change :yes:

Clinton should be in jail. Sanders should be the democratic candidate.

Donald is a businessman. Dangle money and power (or loss of) and he may well sell his countrymen out. On his side, is that it's much easier, more acceptable and almost guaranteed to work to simply ask for forgiveness.

[bogan]

Michael Tellinger v's the banks springs to mind.

:killingme@uninformed twats. You mean people who have chosen a particular understanding of a party's summarised goals? :nya:

Yeh, less likely than that bloke even.

I mean like the brexit muppets who said they hadn't understood what brexit meant and would have voted to stay if they had. This was the fucking day after the referendum so it's not like they can claim hindsight. But yeh, disillusioned fools who chose to ignore reality are also included.

[ellipsis]

reality


...what is this reality you mention...is it real?...

[mashman]

Yeh, less likely than that bloke even.

I mean like the brexit muppets who said they hadn't understood what brexit meant and would have voted to stay if they had. This was the fucking day after the referendum so it's not like they can claim hindsight. But yeh, disillusioned fools who chose to ignore reality are also included.

Oh I knew what you meant, but you can't stop people getting the wrong end of the stick, even when they listen to exactly the same information, from the same person, all at the same time. They voted on what had been presented. Mind you, they're smart enough to realise that they may have made a mistake.

[oldrider]

Yeh, less likely than that bloke even.

I mean like the brexit muppets who said they hadn't understood what brexit meant and would have voted to stay if they had. This was the fucking day after the referendum so it's not like they can claim hindsight. But yeh, disillusioned fools who chose to ignore reality are also included.

True! - The American presidential election affects the whole world but only Americans get to decide the choice of rabies or malaria! :sick:

[Ocean1]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy is not having a good year :no: And it is due to one reason only, uninformed twats who think they should have just as much say as people who know what they are talking about.

And as I've said before; charge $10 for every vote and 90% of your issues disappear overnight.

[Katman]

Bernie never stood a chance.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/24/here-are-the-latest-most-damaging-things-in-the-dncs-leaked-emails/

[husaberg]

Bernie never stood a chance.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/24/here-are-the-latest-most-damaging-things-in-the-dncs-leaked-emails/

How would he ever have, he was born a jew.

Sanders had a typical upbringing for his generation of American Jews: his father generally attended synagogue only on Yom Kippur; he attended public schools while his mother "chafed" at his yeshiva Sunday schooling at a Hebrew school; and their religious observances were mostly limited to Passover seders with their neighbors. Larry Sanders said, "They were very pleased to be Jews, but didn’t have a strong belief in God."Bernie had a bar mitzvah at the historic Kingsway Jewish Center in Midwood, Brooklyn, where he grew up.
In 1963, in cooperation with the Labor Zionist youth movement Hashomer Hatzair, Sanders and his first wife volunteered at Sha’ar HaAmakim, a kibbutz in northern Israel.

So according to You, Yokel, Axkel and Oldie, Hes in fact the direct cause of all the worlds problems.

oh the irony

Bernie's the only one that would offer real change though.
With Hillary it's just more of the same.


Bernie Sanders is the only candidate with anything remotely resembling integrity.
And he has it in spades.
Shame he's not likely to get a shot.


To further strengthen the power of the global elite.
(In other words, quite the opposite of Bernie Sanders).

[Katman]

oh the irony

Where's the irony?

[husaberg]

Where's the irony?

oh gee, I wonder what.....The one guy you thought was the saviour, was, according to all the crap you guys post, the root of all the worlds problems....

[Katman]

oh gee I wonder what.....The one guy you thought was your the saviour was according to all the crap you guys post the root of the worlds problems

Is that even English?

[husaberg]

Is that even English?

Yes, until you edit it, It clearly was English.
So how are you getting on with figuring out the irony?
Or are you just stalling for time?

[Katman]

So how are you getting on with figuring out the irony?

You seem a little confused.

Remember how I said my grandmother's maiden name was Levy?

Well I certainly don't hold her as the root of all the world's problems either.

[husaberg]

You seem a little confused.

Remember how I said my grandmother's maiden name was Levy?

Well I certainly don't hold her as the root of all the world's problems either.

I am not confused at all, or do I care what your relatives maiden name is, or whether your codger is cut or not for that matter.
It may surprise you but, some people judge people by their actions, not by their names or religions or race.
So with this in mind, its only people that maybe jewish jews "that aren't related to you", that are the cause of all the worlds problems and should be gassed?

[Katman]

So with this in mind, its only people that maybe jewsish jews "that aren't related to you, that are the cause of all the worlds problems and should be gassed?

Fuck off you stupid fuck.

[husaberg]

Fuck off you stupid fuck.

So you won't answer the question, well that's rather ironic. Afterall I am only asking a simple question.
Do you not want to discuss your propensity to post links to white supremacist websites purporting that Jews are the root of all the worlds problems?
Or are you going to say you don't do that?

But at least its consistent with all the stupid videos that you post and say everyone must watch, but when asked by bogan or thedemonlord.
You can't summarise the facts that they allegedly contain (because they don't have any facts)
You call them stupid fucks as well. You also tell them to fuck off too.

Do you find that projecting these insults like this somehow strengthens your argument?
Or it just gives you time to change the subject?

[Brian d marge]

Debatable - there are those who believe and argue that they do know and that is why they require "specific" candidates for president!

Hillary is perfect and fit for their purpose! - If this is right she should get the job irrespective! :wait:

Donald ticks all the boxes and appears to be perfect but is too unpredictable and liable to backfire and go out of control! - could be very untidy! - :corn:

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No the big boys have covered all bases
If the third party guy is allowed to debate maybe a chance

But Hiltlary was given the nod ....
The whole thing is sooo rigged

There was a joke flying round the internet about the Russians hacking the voting machines why when they come pre hacked

Make your contingency plans now
It's just a matter of when ... Not if

And a lot of people in Auckland might be exposed to a huge wtf

10 percent in physical gold and silver
IMHO

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[Voltaire]

No the big boys have covered all bases
If the third party guy is allowed to debate maybe a chance

But Hiltlary was given the nod ....
The whole thing is sooo rigged

There was a joke flying round the internet about the Russians hacking the voting machines why when they come pre hacked

Make your contingency plans now
It's just a matter of when ... Not if

And a lot of people in Auckland might be exposed to a huge wtf

10 percent in physical gold and silver
IMHO

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:yawn::yawn::yawn:, Back in the late 80's Ronnie was saying dumb things like Donald like "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you

today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

Anyhow Tokyo is a far better target than Auckland

[Brian d marge]

:yawn::yawn::yawn:, Back in the late 80's Ronnie was saying dumb things like Donald like "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you

today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

Anyhow Tokyo is a far better target than Auckland
20 k outside , let's hope the Chinese use the Asian dick as a yardstick otherwise im screwed

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[oldrider]

The Geopolitics of World War III - 11.Sep.2014 (The whole article) http://stormcloudsgathering.com/the-geopolitics-of-world-war-iii - Note: Not compulsory viewing! :no:

[seattle smitty]

The suggestion here that Sanders never had a chance because he is a Jew is wrong. He diminished his chances by insisting that he is a socialist. Had he offered himself as a traditional New Deal Democrat while saying all of the same things he said, he very well might have been the nominee. The great majority of voters here have no problems with Jewish candidates, Mormon candidates, Catholic candidates, since before 1960. There are still large parts of the country that would probably balk at voting for a gay (what's their tag now, LGBTO or some-such?), and an atheist candidate wouldn't have a prayer, . . . although given the present choice facing us I'm not sure that Satan himself couldn't win as a write-in candidate:devil2:. Make no mistake, most of us are stunned by the absurd choices facing us this year.

Some of what "everybody knows" ain't so. It is assumed by many that because Hillary is the first female candidate for President, women will vote for her as a bloc. I think a lot of women are insulted by that, and that many women were put off by Sarah Palin . . . on the issues.

One of the saddest missed opportunities for us was that we didn't get to elect our first Black president until Obama came along. We knew he was minimally-qualified, but he was smart and he sounded so good, said such sensible things, and he was facing a well-qualified but clueless establishment candidate in Romney. I like Obama, but he has been a disappointment, still saying all the same good-sounding generalities but rather ineffectual (except in passing a health plan with a lot of bad effects) and too liberal for most of us.

But history would surely have worked out immeasurably better had we had the chance to vote for the previous potential first Black president, retired general Colin Powell, in 1980. When the smirking jackass frat-boy George W.Bush was first presented by his dumb-ass Texas backers as a candidate, serious Republican party men who knew about Dubya were scrambling to find alternatives. The first name to come up was Powell, an intelligent, highly experienced, common sense moderate. Powell himself was interested . . . but his wife said absolutely not. She was terrified that Deep South white supremacist fanatics would come gunning for her husband. So Powell had to beg off, and the Republicans had to figure out how to sell the lightweight Bush Junior, with the aid of the diabolical image-engineer Karl Rove (and Bush's admittedly reassuring wife). And they still lost the election, which had to be stolen ultimately by a corrupt Supreme Court under the influence of the phony constructionist "Scaley Tony" Scalia. Resulting in two wars, millions killed and maimed, terrorists encouraged (leading directly to the rise of ISIS, and the western world being inundated by Mideast refugees), all done on a credit card.

The thing is, I think Mrs. Powell was wrong. The Deep South, for all its objectionable attitudes, loves a general, and Powell was one of the leaders of the successful operations of Desert Storm. The South has also been at pains to convince the rest of the country that it is no longer racist, and I think that Powell would have had huge enthusiastic support from the South. One of Powell's stated guidelines about foreign invasions was, "if you break it, you've bought it." Yes, I know that as a Bush appointee he loyally accepted the CIA's suspicions about WMDs in Iraq. But if Powell had been president, the CIA would not have been slanting its reports to justify invasion, as it did for Bush.

Bottom line for me is that poor Mrs. Powell, utterly innocently and inadvertently, caused American and world events to be drastically altered for the worse.

[Bass]

That might just be one of the most insightful pieces that I have read and on KB too.
Amazing!

[awa355]

I see the Washington Post has dredged up some old nude photos of Melania Trump from 20 or so years ago.

Could be worse,, the photo's could've been of Hillary. :(:(

[mashman]

I see the Washington Post has dredged up some old nude photos of Melania Trump from 20 or so years ago.

Could be worse,, the photo's could've been of Hillary. :(:(

As only The Sun, and Oz, can deliver. (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1530172/raunchy-hillary-clinton-mural-may-get-muslim-makeover-after-graffiti-artist-lushsux-was-censored-for-creating-the-unflattering-painting/)

[Brian d marge]

That might just be one of the most insightful pieces that I have read and on KB too.
Amazing!
Look at the running mates , then look at where their loyalties lie and then reread the above



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[Katman]

Corruption at it's best.

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[yokel]

Really shows the level of MSM bias.

I wonder when your average punter is going to realise how misinformed they are.

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[Woodman]

I am a below average putter, but still way better than my long game.

[Katman]

Really shows the level of MSM bias.

I wonder when your average punter is going to realise how misinformed they are.

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Stupid cunts will still choose to be stupid cunts regardless of what you show them.

That's what makes them stupid cunts.

[yokel]

Stupid cunts will still choose to be stupid cunts regardless of what you show them.

That's what makes them stupid cunts.

It's a strange thing how incredibly bad this woman is, yet the telly has nothing but the nicest things to say about her.

like a mass psychology corporation of the masses.

[Virago]

It could be that they'd like to say nice things about Trump - the problem would be finding anything nice.

[Laava]

It could be that they'd like to say nice things about Trump - the problem would be finding anything nice.

He has entertaining hair?

[oldrider]

Meanwhile back in the real world Bibi and his government are planning how they are going to get these pretenders to carry out their plans when this carnival is over! :blip:

[jasonu]

Stupid cunts will still choose to be stupid cunts regardless of what you show them.

That's what makes them stupid cunts.

You lot choose Helen Clarke for 3 terms... and MMP.

[Brian d marge]

Stupid cunts will still choose to be stupid cunts regardless of what you show them.

That's what makes them stupid cunts.
I gave you a blowjob last week , why must I spread it around

u slut

[yokel]

You lot choose Helen Clarke for 3 terms... and MMP.

Shut your dirty mouth.

[oldrider]

You lot choose Helen Clarke for 3 terms... and MMP.

If Helen Clark is as straight a shooter as she likes to impress - she would sort out Israel and the Palestinian crisis - if she was in a position to do it!

If Israel believes she is any threat to their current UN monopoly situation - my bet is she wont go even close for that top UN job! :no: - :corn:

[Brian d marge]

If Helen Clark is as straight a shooter as she likes to impress - she would sort out Israel and the Palestinian crisis - if she was in a position to do it!

If Israel believes she is any threat to their current UN monopoly situation - my bet is she wont go even close for that top UN job! :no: - :corn:
Absolutely

She knows the game .....

sent for a divine source

[Voltaire]

If Helen Clark is as straight a shooter as she likes to impress - she would sort out Israel and the Palestinian crisis - if she was in a position to do it!

If Israel believes she is any threat to their current UN monopoly situation - my bet is she wont go even close for that top UN job! :no: - :corn:

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[oldrider]

A word from Oldies Sponser...:laugh:

Fair enough criticism but lets just use time (as it is all we have) and see just what transpires in world affairs as we live our lives from here on! :corn:

There is always history to refer to for the past but what is written is not always the truth there either thankfully we are still free to decide for ourselves. :niceone:

So for now we continue to agree to disagree! :girlfight:

[Voltaire]

Fair enough criticism but lets just use time (as it is all we have) and see just what transpires in world affairs as we live our lives from here on! :corn:

There is always history to refer to for the past but what is written is not always the truth there either thankfully we are still free to decide for ourselves. :niceone:

So for now we continue to agree to disagree! :girlfight:

You can decide on any version of History you want really, it makes no odds to the outcome.

The 911 debate will go on for years and years like the Kennedy one, the moon landings ( although thats just for the tinfoil hat wearers),

and other clickbait on the net.

You must have seen it all before, Kennedy, Vietnam, Watergate, Springbox tour, Bastion Point...etc.

As for using the time we have left, good point, back to welding up my Kombi doors and rebuilding my R90s fork legs :msn-wink:

[oldrider]

You can decide on any version of History you want really, it makes no odds to the outcome.

The 911 debate will go on for years and years like the Kennedy one, the moon landings ( although thats just for the tinfoil hat wearers),

and other clickbait on the net.

You must have seen it all before, Kennedy, Vietnam, Watergate, Springbox tour, Bastion Point...etc.

As for using the time we have left, good point, back to welding up my Kombi doors and rebuilding my R90s fork legs :msn-wink:

True!

Must spread etc - best of luck with the latter! :niceone: - :ride:

[husaberg]

If Helen Clark is as straight a shooter as she likes to impress - she would sort out Israel and the Palestinian crisis - if she was in a position to do it!

If Israel believes she is any threat to their current UN monopoly situation - my bet is she wont go even close for that top UN job! :no: - :corn:


Gee wow that's surprising, another unsolicited Goebbels like rant from you about the jews.
One that has nothing to do at all with the thread.
Anything to say about China oldie?
Or what about Russia?
Why is it you say nothing about the UN and China's record of human rights abuse?
After all your rants are clearly not about your own obvious racial bias are they?

[Brian d marge]

The Goebbels speeches from the ones ive read seem more concerned about the Bolsheviks and who was funding them ...

sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

The Goebbels speeches from the ones ive read seem more concerned about the Bolsheviks and who was funding them ...

sent for a divine source

I think you missed the point Stephen, why is he not so obviously concerned about the lack of UN action over China and Russia.

Also Goebbels was in charge of the propaganda ministry, all German propaganda had his personal touch.

[Brian d marge]

I think you missed the point Stephen, why is he not so obviously concerned about the lack of UN action over China and Russia.

Also Goebbels was in charge of the propaganda ministry, all German propaganda had his personal touch.

The UN , IMHO, is the anglo american drug cartel police force. Russia and china , have something up their sleeve , ( I dont know exactly what , I think Gold ) but they KNOW the balance of power is shifting away from America , ) notice i didnt say england )

Yes I know Goebels , and I can only trusty the english translated version. but sometime he did hit the nail on the head , he ALSO knew who was doing what with whom

[husaberg]

The UN , IMHO, is the anglo american drug cartel police force. Russia and china , have something up their sleeve , ( I dont know exactly what , I think Gold ) but they KNOW the balance of power is shifting away from America , ) notice i didnt say england )

Yes I know Goebels , and I can only trusty the english translated version. but sometime he did hit the nail on the head , he ALSO knew who was doing what with whom

Sorry again you missed it
Why is oldie only worried when its the jews
Why two sets of rules, a racially motivated double standard applied to similar behaviours.
Its a constant pattern that is both apparent and transparent and in oldies posts.
As for the earlier Goebels, people like being feed a story here their is a bogey man.
This simple solution to what is complex issues, appeals to simple people.
For no one likes to admit that a lack of their own success could be down to their own actions and inactions.
Most people find that a too bitter a pill to swallow, yet will readily swallow and then regurgitate any old recycled Nazi claptrap.

[seattle smitty]

FWIW (for instance, if you are one who moves your money around in order to protect it against any fallout from the coming USA election), it is looking increasingly likely that Hillary is going to beat Trump by a goodly margin. Republican candidates around the country are at pains to distance themselves from Trump, hoping that he won't drag them down to defeat. Trump finally endorsed some of the top men in his party the other day, after having condemned them as a bunch of cheats who intended to steal the nomination from him. But as so often is the case, he came across as utterly insincere and opportunistic. Those adjectives also apply to Hillary (and to a somewhat lesser degree to most politicians), but she isn't the full-time windbag, and actually does have a good deal of experience relative to the position they both are applying for. So many who can barely stand to hear the woman talk are trying to look past all the many negatives and pick her as the lesser of two evils.

To hear the right-wingers, of course, Hillary is the mother of all evil. They remind me of all the left-wingers and liberals among university students and liberal arts professors in previous decades. If you were to utter the name "Richard Nixon" aloud in such a group, you could see hackles rise and hear hisses and groans. In either case, Right or Left, their visceral hatred was absurd. Leaving Nixon aside, Hillary is not evil. She is an Establishment Democrat, and therefore beholden to the lawyers, the teachers unions, Wall Street traders and bankers, what's left of Big Labor, the bureaucrats in the federal government (esp. in the State Dept.), Democrats in state government, and the Washington/New York media. What you get with an Establishment Democrat is more-of-same but with a liberal slant (I use "liberal' here with its US political connotations). What you get with an Establishment Republican, say a Mitt Romney or either of the Bushes, is more-of-same but with a conservative slant.

Donald Trump's appeal, like the appeal of Bernie Sanders, is that each pronounced himself to be the enemy of more-of-same. American voters desperately want a bunch of things changed (not merely "shaken up"), and if you paid attention to what Trump and Bernie wanted changed you should have noted a possibly surprising degree of overlap. But neither individual would have been able to deliver. For that matter, Obama, who came across as an independent thinker when he was the outsider who beat out Hillary to be the Democratic candidate in 2008, sounded like he might try to be a significant changer. Alas, not so. So while most of us want a rebel against the Establishment, a Jesus of Nazareth throwing the money-changers out of the temple, we can see that Trump is all attitude and hot air, as likely to make things worse as better. The perception, then, is that at least Hillary is not likely to change anything very much for the worse. (And Jesus was executed by the Establishment for his reforming efforts!).

Both sides will be up and down over the next few months, but I'm betting that even though the Donald has some ideas with a certain amount of merit, voters who want targeted change know we can't get that from a loose cannon, and will hold their noses and elect Hillary.

Very depressing!!

(Ah, no, I won't guarantee investments made on the basis of this prediction.)

[Voltaire]

There are 4 candidates running ( not that you would know)

Perhaps if the US voters really want to protest about the system they could vote for one of the others.

But that's about a likely as Kiwis voting for the Green party to protest about NZ's GOP's that are past their use by date.

America will get the President they want and whatever happens after that.

[oldrider]

The previous two posts pretty much sums it up except that Hillary Clinton probably is evil.

If Donald Trump really did believe what he tried to claim at the beginning of the circus he would get the same result as Jesus Christ only the method would be changed!

[mashman]

The lesser of 2 evils. Trump will do more of the same. He has congress to get past and will toe and promote the pro-business line. Clinton should be in jail alongside those who have been convicted of the same "crime" as her. No two ways about it. However, she will toe the pro-business line and promote the pro-people line. If people want to vote for change, t'would seem a little odd to vote for more of the same, because things are all but guaranteed not to change given the relatively recent history of the country, its 2 horse race and its wars. Buy hey, it's much more fun to talk about sport for an hour than to spend that hour thinking about the general predicament the country finds itself in. God forbid that such a thing could happen anywhere else in the world <_<

[Brian d marge]

The previous two posts pretty much sums it up except that Hillary Clinton probably is evil.

If Donald Trump really did believe what he tried to claim at the beginning of the circus he would get the same result as Jesus Christ only the method would be changed!

Hows that Clinton body count , up by five in 6 weeks

[bogan]

To hear the right-wingers, of course, Hillary is the mother of all evil. They remind me of all the left-wingers and liberals among university students and liberal arts professors in previous decades. If you were to utter the name "Richard Nixon" aloud in such a group, you could see hackles rise and hear hisses and groans. In either case, Right or Left, their visceral hatred was absurd. Leaving Nixon aside, Hillary is not evil. She is an Establishment Democrat, and therefore beholden to the lawyers, the teachers unions, Wall Street traders and bankers, what's left of Big Labor, the bureaucrats in the federal government (esp. in the State Dept.), Democrats in state government, and the Washington/New York media. What you get with an Establishment Democrat is more-of-same but with a liberal slant (I use "liberal' here with its US political connotations). What you get with an Establishment Republican, say a Mitt Romney or either of the Bushes, is more-of-same but with a conservative slant.

The prevalence of polarising morons seems to be on the rise. The Brexit, US election, Bush did 911s, anti-moniers (and their often misguidedly related anti-semites), anti-vaccers, anti-sciencers, anti-govts, etc. It's enough to make you clutch at the straw that they may not actually be on the rise, but the are simply finding the exposure. Will the free (and all to frequent) speech platform that is the internet be what brings down democracy?

[yokel]

FWIW (for instance, if you are one who moves your money around in order to protect it against any fallout from the coming USA election), it is looking increasingly likely that Hillary is going to beat Trump by a goodly margin.



What on earth makes you think Hillary has a chance?
Oh that's right false reporting and bogus polling.

https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/media-caught-lying-about-the-crowd-size-of-hillary-clinton-rallys

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The prevalence of polarising morons seems to be on the rise. The Brexit, US election, Bush did 911s, anti-moniers (and their often misguidedly related anti-semites), anti-vaccers, anti-sciencers, anti-govts, etc. It's enough to make you clutch at the straw that they may not actually be on the rise, but the are simply finding the exposure. Will the free (and all to frequent) speech platform that is the internet be what brings down democracy?

You are a complete muppet, but thankfully your type will soon be in the crack pot fringe minority.

[seattle smitty]

:laugh:
America will get the President they want and whatever happens after that .

NO, I'm trying to tell you that's NOT what happens! If you don't understand that many of us are voting against the greater of two evils, rather than for someone else, think about the recent example of George W. Bush, whose keepers had to arrange to steal the election for him. There's an obvious example, with no explanation needed, of America NOT "getting the President they want."

[oldrider]

:laugh:

NO, I'm trying to tell you that's NOT what happens! If you don't understand that many of us are voting against the greater of two evils, rather than for someone else, think about the recent example of George W. Bush, whose keepers had to arrange to steal the election for him. There's any obvious example, with no explanation needed, of America NOT "getting the President they want."

The modern day Western electorate only ever gets to vote governments etc OUT! - :kick:

The notion that governments are voted IN is false - who goes IN is controlled by the main stream media vested interest etc! - :stoogie:

Same all over the Western world. :brick:

[Oscar]

The modern day Western electorate only ever gets to vote governments etc OUT! - :kick:

The notion that governments are voted IN is false - who goes IN is controlled by the main stream media vested interest etc! - :stoogie:

Same all over the Western world. :brick:

Jesus wept, you talk some shit.
Which vested interest thought that nine years of Helen Clark was a good idea?
Or Brexit - why didn't the vested interests sort that out?

You'll no doubt have some reason the jews or banks or CIA thought that this was a good idea.

[oldrider]

Jesus wept, you talk some shit.
Which vested interest thought that nine years of Helen Clark was a good idea?
Or Brexit - why didn't the vested interests sort that out?

You'll no doubt have some reason the jews or banks or CIA thought that this was a good idea.

Them ole Z boys really did a number on you with the victim mentality didn't they Oscar - keep up the good work! :niceone:

[Oscar]

Them ole Z boys really did a number on you with the victim mentality didn't they Oscar - keep up the good work! :niceone:

What the fuck are you on about now?

You said that the elections were fixed by vested interests.
Pray tell us which vested interests thought that the fifth Labour Govt was a great idea for nine years, or Brexit, or the continual fuck up that is the Australian electoral system?
Who is paying for these results?

Do they get a money back guarantee?
Or are your comments just drivel?

[oldrider]

Who is paying for these results? The opposite to trickle down - trickle up! - some pay with their lives! :sick:

[Oscar]

The opposite to trickle down - trickle up! - some pay with their lives! :sick:


So, just the usual drivel then.

[oldrider]

So, just the usual drivel then.

And here is the candidate that your lot are backing to the hilt but then they hedge their bets with trump even though he is a loose cannon and liable to be very untidy!

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Goodbye Iran - :bye: - either way! - Probably good bye America or the whole world even!!! :rolleyes: - Gee thanks Oscar!

[Oscar]

And here is the candidate that your lot are backing to the hilt but then they hedge their bets with trump even though he is a loose cannon and liable to be very untidy!

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Goodbye Iran - :bye: - either way! - Probably good bye America or the whole world even!!! :rolleyes: - Gee thanks Oscar!

Who the fuck is "your lot"?

[Katman]

Who the fuck is "your lot"?

At a guess.....

<img src="http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/AP-Netanyahu-Nazi-salute-at-UN-e1348781722882.jpg"/>

[Oscar]

At a guess.....

<img src="http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/AP-Netanyahu-Nazi-salute-at-UN-e1348781722882.jpg"/>

So he thinks I'm Israeli?

[Katman]

So he thinks I'm Israeli?

Either that or a Nazi.

[Voltaire]

I get it....one you 'elect' a new Pressy he/she can do what they like and become a dictator :gob:

[Oscar]

Either that or a Nazi.

Last I checked, I wasn't either.
Meh, perhaps I come off as being one or the other sometimes.

Like I'm sure he's not senile, or a vile racist twat , but he does a good impression sometimes.

[Brian d marge]

Either that or a Nazi.
Must resist shooting fish in barrel
Must resist

The only surprise so far is he ain't playing Pokemon go

Just a recap Oscar me old chap

Mike pence , and Tim Kaine one gets his money from the trilateral commission and the other from AIPAC.
But then u would know that if u had half a clue..

sent for a divine source

[Brian d marge]

I get it....one you 'elect' a new Pressy he/she can do what they like and become a dictator :gob:
No they are just the spokesperson for the gang


sent for a divine source

[oldrider]

PM Removed - Gremlin

What personal anti-Semitic shit? :scratch:

Obviously you can dish it out Oscar but you certainly appear unable to take it back! - Suggest you do a course on anger management! :mad:

[Oscar]

Must resist shooting fish in barrel
Must resist

The only surprise so far is he ain't playing Pokemon go

Just a recap Oscar me old chap

Mike pence , and Tim Kaine one gets his money from the trilateral commission and the other from AIPAC.
But then u would know that if u had half a clue..

sent for a divine source

If you had have a clue you would have a better command of English and not come off like an illiterate twat.

[Oscar]

What personal anti-Semitic shit? :scratch:

Obviously you can dish it out Oscar but you certainly appear unable to take it back! - Suggest you do a course on anger management! :mad:

So now you understand the question.

A pity you don't respond otherwise.

[husaberg]

What personal anti-Semitic shit? :scratch:

Obviously you can dish it out Oscar but you certainly appear unable to take it back! - Suggest you do a course on anger management! :mad:

You might want to heed his advice, it sounds like a heads up, it certainly didn't appear to be angry, no use of capitals etc.
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Here's an idea, you could offer an explanation as to why you think Oscar (and probably me, and anyone else who calls you out on your racism) is racist and bigoted; rather than just asserting your self-delusions over and over and over again... After all, there's a great difference between showing people what to think, and telling them.


Here's another idea - fuck off!


So hows about you, just for once, back up something that post?
Find something that I posted that was racist.



Sure, I am a bigot a racist....
I am quite happy with who and what I am!


You might find people can read a post by Oscar which contains opinions (although widely shared) without the word fact in it at all, and figure out for themselves whether he is arguing it as fact or opinion.
No, I think you just needed to find some nit-picky strawman bullshit to draw attention away from the fact that you are a bigoted old fool who attempts to hide his bigotry under a noodly spine.
Still, as long as we have you focusing on this diatribe, your hate filled anti-semitic ravings are fewer...

Blown up by your own bomb - what you are arguing as fact is only your own opinion!
The difference is I don't have to get nasty be abusive or tell lies - fact is fact - you simply have another opinion readers can form their own opinion or look it up.
But of course you are so arrogant that you think that you and only you is always right! :bash:

Well you've been better of late, but you got labeled as such for bullshit like saying "90% of the worlds finances are controlled by Jews" which I believe is more or less a direct quote, and it was in the context of financial oppression etc; and you backed it up by just saying, it's gotta be around that I reckon.
If you think that is the same as someone saying that some zionist's are terrorists/commit crimes against humanity/war crimes/evil/shitcunts; you need your fucking head read.


You post lies falsehoods and myths, you selectively post all these to suit your own racist bigoted agenda.
Tell you what if you are so comfortable with what you post it in a letter to the editor in your local newspaper, with your names and address.

Oh the return of the shill - you remind me of a traffic cop in Lower Hutt back in the day (Arnold Barr) - he used to wait patiently in shadows too - like you to no avail.

So you are not game to share your musings in a newspaper with your name and address then, what are you afraid of. You often say your posts are purely educational after all.:corn:

husaberg - the shill from the Wild Wild West coast - of? - Israel?...

[oldrider]

One word - Pathetic. :facepalm:

[seattle smitty]

As an outsider I don't understand any of the personal stuff here, and surely am not taking sides in any of it, but I want to point out that Oscar offered a good counter-example to my assertion that Americans, and by extension probably voters in most or all other democracies, are very frequently voting against candidates or issues, rather than for anything. This is not always the case, and when Oscar cited Brexit he pointed out an example in which a majority of voters prevailed against the Establishment. Whether the Brexit vote was a good or bad thing in itself, I'll leave to you, but the fact that voters are occasionally able to stand against the powers-that-be is a small source of hope, or so it seems to me.

[oldrider]

The modern day Western electorate only ever gets to vote governments etc OUT! - :kick:

The notion that governments are voted IN is false - who goes IN is controlled by the main stream media vested interest etc! - :stoogie:

Same all over the Western world. :brick:


As an outsider I don't understand any of the personal stuff here, and surely am not taking sides in any of it, but I want to point out that Oscar offered a good counter-example to my assertion that Americans, and by extension probably voters in most or all other democracies, are very frequently voting against candidates or issues, rather than for anything. This is not always the case, and when Oscar cited Brexit he pointed out an example in which a majority of voters prevailed against the Establishment. Whether the Brexit vote was a good or bad thing in itself, I'll leave to you, but the fact that voters are occasionally able to stand against the powers-that-be is a small source of hope, or so it seems to me.

Oscar and I fell out initially because I criticised Israel over their treatment of Gaza and the west Bank I.E. Palestine - IMHO Israel is no better than Nazi Germany!

That is the crux of our dispute but Oscar and I are like oil and water - unable to mix - so be it. :sunny: The sun will shine tomorrow! :corn:

[Brian d marge]

If you had have a clue you would have a better command of English and not come off like an illiterate twat.


you tried that , how many times before???


but keep posting , one needs a metric to gauge humanity

[Voltaire]

As an outsider I don't understand any of the personal stuff here, and surely am not taking sides in any of it, but I want to point out that Oscar offered a good counter-example to my assertion that Americans, and by extension probably voters in most or all other democracies, are very frequently voting against candidates or issues, rather than for anything. This is not always the case, and when Oscar cited Brexit he pointed out an example in which a majority of voters prevailed against the Establishment. Whether the Brexit vote was a good or bad thing in itself, I'll leave to you, but the fact that voters are occasionally able to stand against the powers-that-be is a small source of hope, or so it seems to me.

I don't understand the personal stuff here either, I put it down to bored and and winding up is fun, retired and bored, no bike and bored, tinfoil hat wearers with no friends,no shed to play in, unemployed ex school teacher and RSA won't take carrots as payment for beer.

There is no real Democracy and the US voting system shows how well it can be 'worked'
The two parties are self serving and run like corporations, the plebs are tired of it and if voting for Donald upsets the apple cart/gravy train it might just happen.
Just watching Bill Clinton giving his " I love my wife speech" made me want to vomit.
The political dynasty's are not much different to the Monarchs of old really.
I doubt you will see another binding referendum like BREXIT for a while, other than maybe Italy who's PM thinks they like him.

Apologies for sensible answer with no name calling and dumb you tube clip...:lol:

[Katman]

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Zionism isn't a race.

[Ocean1]

I doubt you will see another binding referendum like BREXIT for a while, other than maybe Italy who's PM thinks they like him.

We failed in our last attempt to force legislation regarding binding referenda a decade ago. Probably one of NZ's worst abuses of established power in recent memory.

Not that a never ending stream of referendums demanding govt compliance to inevitably conflicting, nit pickin' democratic process isn't doomed to abject failure. Look at the limited democracy we have now, and it's effect of a majority voting themselves the proceeds of a minority's productive efforts. Not a long term winning strategy, to say the least.

Seems silly to blame politicians for lying to us when their only alternative is to point out that there's a limit to the number of individual voters problems others can be expected to fix, and subsequent political extinction.

Having said that, wouldn't a genuine attempt, devoid of spin really gain enough votes to break the cycle?



Nah, sorry, brief fit of sanity, there. Won't happen again....

[Oscar]

you tried that , how many times before???




Call me optimistic.
You still don't seem to have mastered the art of communication, though.

[Oscar]

Oscar and I fell out initially because I criticised Israel over their treatment of Gaza and the west Bank I.E. Palestine - IMHO Israel is no better than Nazi Germany!

That is the crux of our dispute but Oscar and I are like oil and water - unable to mix - so be it. :sunny: The sun will shine tomorrow! :corn:

You are an idiot.
I have criticised Israel for exactly the same thing.
The main difference is that I don't compare them to Nazi Germany or make statements about ley lines in Jerusalem or "the myth of anti-Semitism".

[oldrider]

You are an idiot.
I have criticised Israel for exactly the same thing.
The main difference is that I don't compare them to Nazi Germany or make statements about ley lines in Jerusalem or "the myth of anti-Semitism".

Behold another scintillating episode from the Keyboard Warrior from Palmerston North! :yawn: Staring Oscar as Captain Z. :banana: (warning some content may not be offensive)

[Oscar]

Behold another scintillating episode from the Keyboard Warrior from Palmerston North! :yawn: Staring Oscar as Captain Z. :banana: (warning some content may not be offensive)

No really, tell us about "the myth of anti-Semitism".
You're the one with all the answers.

[mashman]

One of Trump's policy advisors. Yet another moron who believes that capitalism means freedom.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xqHQHe8eeI

[Banditbandit]

but the fact that voters are occasionally able to stand against the powers-that-be is a small source of hope, or so it seems to me.

That remains to be seen .. Trump has appealed to the disaffected portions of the US - a classic would-be Politician's mistake. Exactly the mistake Pauline Hanson made in Oz ...Brash did the same thing when he made his Orewa Speech ... None of them won either ...

Appealing to the disaffected gets them all riled up and cheering - and it looks like the politicians gain a lot of support ...

However, this is one point these politicians have forgotten - disaffected people do not vote. Get it? Disaffected people do not vote

So while these politicians look like they have a lot of support, it rarely translates into actual support at the polling booths because VOTING is not high on the list of the habits of disaffected people - standing and screaming in anger in crowds is part of their behavior, but voting is not.

It's going to be interesting ... but Hillary is going to win ..

[Banditbandit]

One of Trump's policy advisors. Yet another moron who believes that capitalism means freedom.



It means freedom for the very rich to screw everyone else .. INCLUDING all of us here ...

[oldrider]

There is always the possibility that if Trump gets in that he might be a "great" president! - Don't hold your breath but always stay a little optimistic at least! :corn:

With Hillary you can guarantee she will not be for the people and will revert to type at any given moment! :2guns::stoogie:

[mashman]

It means freedom for the very rich to screw everyone else .. INCLUDING all of us here ...

I had started to notice something similar... but I have been assured that said screwing is business and not personal and is completely normal and really is the best we can do. But hey, useless jobs are real important.

http://chasemarch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Buckminster-Fuller-Quote.jpg

[yokel]

That remains to be seen .. Trump has appealed to the disaffected portions of the US - a classic would-be Politician's mistake. Exactly the mistake Pauline Hanson made in Oz ...Brash did the same thing when he made his Orewa Speech ... None of them won either ...

Appealing to the disaffected gets them all riled up and cheering - and it looks like the politicians gain a lot of support ...

However, this is one point these politicians have forgotten - disaffected people do not vote. Get it? Disaffected people do not vote

So while these politicians look like they have a lot of support, it rarely translates into actual support at the polling booths because VOTING is not high on the list of the habits of disaffected people - standing and screaming in anger in crowds is part of their behavior, but voting is not.

It's going to be interesting ... but Hillary is going to win ..

Haha what a load of dribble.

Hillary's handlers are going to steel the win.

The Hillary's handlers media bias in it's self is voter fraud.

[Voltaire]

Buckminster Fuller.... BWAHHAAAAAAA,

Can you find anyone who has been dead longer than 33 years to quote about modern life.

BWAHHHAAAAAAA....:facepalm:

[mashman]

Buckminster Fuller.... BWAHHAAAAAAA,

Can you find anyone who has been dead longer than 33 years to quote about modern life.

BWAHHHAAAAAAA....:facepalm:

Adam Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Smith) and Ludwig von Mises (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises) spring to mind. I don't see Fuller as being completely and utterly wrong though, OSH being an interesting example :D

This is for you though ;)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-A3B2IowlbOk/UeIYPAhew5I/AAAAAAAAIJo/60pHowjGJyU/s640/cartoon.jpg

[Voltaire]

Adam Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Smith) and Ludwig von Mises (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises) spring to mind. I don't see Fuller as being completely and utterly wrong though, OSH being an interesting example :D

This is for you though ;)

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tell us about your alternative off grid,rebel, self funding, lifestyle ...all ears ;)

[mashman]

tell us about your alternative off grid,rebel, self funding, lifestyle ...all ears ;)

Well, it's not off-grid, it's not rebellious, nor indeed is there a need for self-funding. It is alternative, but I think you'll like it.

[Ocean1]

tell us about your alternative off grid,rebel, self funding, lifestyle ...all ears ;)

A picture is worth...

a fucking sight more than anything you'll get out of Mushface.