The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread? [Archive] - Page 24

austingtir

18th July 2019, 00:02

US President Donald Trump has tweeted out comments made by a Republican senator who branded the ‘squad’ of four freshman Democratic congresswoman who accused him of racism as “the four horsewomen of the apocalypse.”

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...opinion, they’re Americans. Now I’m entitled to my opinion, & I just think they’re left wing cranks. They’re the reason there are directions on a shampoo bottle, & we should ignore them. The “squad” has moved the Democrat Party substantially LEFT, and.....

Donald J. Trump
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....they are destroying the Democrat Party. I’m appalled that so many of our Presidential candidates are falling all over themselves to try to agree with the four horsewomen of the apocalypse. I’m entitled to say that they’re Wack Jobs.” Louisiana Senator John Kennedy

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sugilite

18th July 2019, 03:18

US President Donald Trump has tweeted out comments made by a Republican senator who branded the ‘squad’ of four freshman Democratic congresswoman who accused him of racism as “the four horsewomen of the apocalypse.”

And yet, if he was the shrewd towering mountain of intellect you seem to think he is, he would only be tweeting out about the strong (for now) American economy giving himself the maximum chance of reelection - rather than tweeting out controversial distracting tweets that are alienating more and more voters thus shrinking his ever diminishing base.

And yes I get it, for people like you, these tweets are hugely entertaining - but in effect Trump is smashing himself in the bread basket over and over again. And for that reason people like me also find these tweets hugely entertaining. :2thumbsup

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Laava

18th July 2019, 07:21

Making America Gormless Again

austingtir

18th July 2019, 09:25

Global politics is no longer left vs right. It’s nationalists vs treasonous globalists that want to destroy their home/host countries

https://i.imgur.com/hnt5hR4.png

https://i.imgur.com/e2ZHSTY.png

https://i.imgur.com/W672gTf.png

"takes his children to church"
These people are crazy!

austingtir

18th July 2019, 09:37

And yet, if he was the shrewd towering mountain of intellect you seem to think he is, he would only be tweeting out about the strong (for now) American economy giving himself the maximum chance of reelection - rather than tweeting out controversial distracting tweets that are alienating more and more voters thus shrinking his ever diminishing base.

And yes I get it, for people like you, these tweets are hugely entertaining - but in effect Trump is smashing himself in the bread basket over and over again. And for that reason people like me also find these tweets hugely entertaining. :2thumbsup

Nope Trumps a (stable) genius and I'll tell you why...

The Dems were starting to turn on AOC and her crew. Odds are they were going to be largely marginalized soon.

Trump picks a fight with them and now the dems are circling the wagons- around some of the least popular people in the country. Ilhan Omar has an approval rating of 9% in a recent poll. AOC is like 26%. Just lol.

Can you imagine if he can actually keep 2020 framed as him against this crew?

He's going to beat reagans records.

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austingtir

18th July 2019, 09:48

Continued:

"I could go through a lengthy punchlist of examples of Trump statements and moves that prove the 3D chess theory, but that would dramatically overtake the space this column has to offer. Instead, let’s just talk about this weekend’s flare-up over the president’s Twitter outburst aimed at The Squad — the four idiot freshman Democrat congresswomen, led by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar, who have spent their time as elected officials offering one inappropriate and stupid anti-American outburst after another.
Paul Mirengoff at Power Line pointed out why. AOC and Omar, particularly, are becoming two of the best-known members of Pelosi’s caucus, and they are both becoming absolutely radioactive. To wit …

A May poll reportedly found that Ocasio-Cortez is profoundly unpopular in congressional districts throughout America. More than 74 percent of those surveyed recognized her name. Only 22 percent had a favorable view of her.

Ilhan Omar fared even worse. She was recognized by 53 percent, with only 9 percent holding a favorable view. Socialism was viewed favorably by 18 percent and unfavorably by 69 percent.

Chris White of the Daily Caller says Democratic leaders are concerned that with all the publicity Ocasio-Cortez and Omar generate, the party might lose the House. Ocasio-Cortez “is getting all the news and defining everyone else’s races,” one operative fretted.
A top Democrat involved in the 2020 congressional races told Axios, “If all voters hear about is AOC, it could put the [House] majority at risk. [S]he’s getting all the news and defining everyone else’s races. Socialism is toxic to these voters.”

So what do you do if you want to ensure Omar and AOC poison those so-called moderate Democrats who won those swing House districts last year?

You force Pelosi into bed with them."

Which is precisely what Trump has done.
Cliffs:
- 4 idiot freshmen "congresswomyn" are toxic to voters
- Trump mocks and forces Pelosi and democRATs to defend 4 idiots
- Pelosi and democRATs become toxic to voters too
- Trump wins back House in 2020!

Read the whole column and LOL @ the democRATs here:

https://spectator.org/trump-troll-level-grand-master/

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1151526698392965123

sugilite

18th July 2019, 11:56

Nope Trumps a (stable) genius and I'll tell you why...

Ok, I'm pretty sure you know that anyone that feels the need to tell you they are a genius - is very unlikely to be one. Further more, anyone that feels the need to prefix the word "genius" with the word "stable" is almost very certainly a stark raving nut job - and with there being so much proof of that out there - I don't want to overrun the forums poor server listing it all :msn-wink:

Ok - for a bit of balance on this "anonymous" poll you mention, check out the following link - https://news.yahoo.com/axios-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-poll-215718719.html

But you know, I'm going to give you credit - that is actually a good strategy if what that anonymous poll says is true, in fact a very, very good strategy - had he "strategically" deployed it a week before the election. :facepalm:
But your man has blown his wad ridiculously early, in fact it lies several foot before poor unsatisfied stormys feet! Crikey, she hadn't even had a chance to get her bra off :pinch:

Thus the dems have lots of time to clean up the somewhat unsavory mess your hero has left behind.

Sorry to break it to you pal, but a 3D chess guru he is not.

austingtir

18th July 2019, 12:25

Ok, I'm pretty sure you know that anyone that feels the need to tell you they are a genius - is very unlikely to be one. Further more, anyone that feels the need to prefix the word "genius" with the word "stable" is almost very certainly a stark raving nut job - and with there being so much proof of that out there - I don't want to overrun the forums poor server listing it all :msn-wink:

Ok - for a bit of balance on this "anonymous" poll you mention, check out the following link - https://news.yahoo.com/axios-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-poll-215718719.html

But you know, I'm going to give you credit - that is actually a good strategy if what that anonymous poll says is true, in fact a very, very good strategy - had he "strategically" deployed it a week before the election. :facepalm:
But your man has blown his wad ridiculously early, in fact it lies several foot before poor unsatisfied stormys feet! Crikey, she hadn't even had a chance to get her bra off :pinch:

Thus the dems have lots of time to clean up the somewhat unsavory mess your hero has left behind.

Sorry to break it to you pal, but a 3D chess guru he is not.

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^^This is what pure unedited TDS looks like folks!

austingtir

18th July 2019, 12:28

"I hear she was married to her brother" "I dont know but im sure somebody is looking into that"

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1151609685423927302

#genius
#4d Chess

He's put them in the news cycle on purpose and you twits are to stupid to realize it.

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sugilite

18th July 2019, 13:05

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^^This is what pure unedited TDS looks like folks!
Oh come on, is that the best you can do? - TDS? Like again? Sad :(
Is that all you have in your kit bag, cut and paste from other forums and sites - no original material? Like I'm just going to have to say it again - as a troll you truly suck.

Banditbandit

18th July 2019, 13:11

Continued:

A May poll reportedly found that Ocasio-Cortez is profoundly unpopular in congressional districts throughout America. More than 74 percent of those surveyed recognized her name. Only 22 percent had a favorable view of her.

1 These four women were elected in their constituencies - just think about that for a moment ...

2 Trump's attack on these women disrespects the American citizens who voted for them - a majority in each constituency ... think about that - they won the popular vote - Trump did not win that.

3 Would you recognise all of our 120 MPs just from their photographs? I doubt it ..

Laava

18th July 2019, 13:33

Oh come on, is that the best you can do? - TDS? Like again? Sad :(
Is that all you have in your kit bag, cut and paste from other forums and sites - no original material? Like I'm just going to have to say it again - as a troll you truly suck.
I bet you were hoping to be labelled "fascist" or a "manlet" weren't you?

sugilite

18th July 2019, 13:44

I bet you were hoping to be labelled "fascist" or a "manlet" weren't you?

I honestly thought I had at least earned a Marxist!

austingtir

18th July 2019, 13:54

1 These four women were elected in their constituencies - just think about that for a moment ...

2 Trump's attack on these women disrespects the American citizens who voted for them - a majority in each constituency ... think about that - they won the popular vote - Trump did not win that.

3 Would you recognise all of our 120 MPs just from their photographs? I doubt it ..

Who gives a crap these american citizens that likely voted for these clowns are likely either muslim agitators like them or communists or ANTIFA. All 4 of these harpies are from districts that are completely retarded liberal cesspools.

I dont believe in list mp's so you right I would not give a rats ass about half our parliament.

I would say exactly the same stuff about Golriz, Genter the labour chinese MP who has dual citizen ship and connections to the Chinese CCP and national's Alfred Ngaro (if he keeps spouting off about being a zionist). Among others.

Trumps words could apply to quite a few socialists/communists/muslim agitators in our own parliament.

pritch

18th July 2019, 14:50

I honestly thought I had at least earned a Marxist!

These headcases who hate Antifa are a worry. Anyone who hates anti-fascists really needs to take a look at themselves, their moral compass is outa whack.

Katman

18th July 2019, 15:01

These headcases who hate Antifa are a worry. Anyone who hates anti-fascists really needs to take a look at themselves, their moral compass is outa whack.

Then perhaps you need to take a closer look at what the Antifa movement stands for and their methods of achieving their goals.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/yes-antifa-is-the-moral-equivalent-of-neo-nazis/2017/08/30/9a13b2f6-8d00-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html?utm_term=.a5294639ab7f

austingtir

18th July 2019, 15:18

These headcases who hate Antifa are a worry. Anyone who hates anti-fascists really needs to take a look at themselves, their moral compass is outa whack.

Yeah we are the headcases.... You have got to one of the most delusional retards I have come across. (with any luck the tossers in the video below got droned or even better hacked into little pieces by some deranged islamic militant).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnoIV8yxp1s&t=94s

https://youtu.be/8e0pquZlzlc?t=5

All the signs in the background are ANTIFA. We even have "de colonize aotearoa" with a hammer and sickle under it. They are simply hiding behind being anti-facist to spout all their other complete garbage. And of course the usual lemmings fall for it. I have another somewhere with Golriz actually on an antifa NZ forum helping to organize a rally. Of course NZ ANTIFA is like ANTIFA in the rest of the world "lite" they have not quite evolved to smashing gay journalists over the head with concrete filled milkshakes or bikelocks, wearing facemasks and attacking people they dont agree with and then running away like little girls.... No NZ ANTIFA for now are just calling in bomb threats to theaters with productions that their politics doesnt agree with and generally being degenerates....
https://i.imgur.com/Vidl0Qu.jpg

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/02/listen-sean-plunket-rips-apart-stunned-auckland-peace-action-activist-over-jordan-peterson-opposition.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXvloR9_wGI&t=481s

pritch

18th July 2019, 15:21

[QUOTE=Katman;1131137063]Then perhaps you need to take a closer look at what the Antifa movement stands for and their methods of achieving their goals.

Nah I'm good. That's one article about one event.

Katman

18th July 2019, 15:29

Nah I'm good. That's one article about one event.

https://images.app.goo.gl/hvAadZ32JU2swFt18

jasonu

18th July 2019, 16:35

the labour chinese MP who has dual citizen ship

Really??? is that true?

Laava

18th July 2019, 17:48

austingtir

18th July 2019, 18:04

Really??? is that true?

Not 100% on if he is dual citizen but cant see how he cant be unless he ripped up his chinese CS but he's the only Labour mp of Chinese origin (the other was either born or raised here through the schooling system)

In particular interest is 4.3 and 4.4 here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Huo

Then this he clearly has connections to the CCP when he was in university in beijing.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/03/labour-u-turn-on-blocking-china-critic-anne-marie-brady-s-foreign-interference-submission.html

Then theres the National MP that was actually training spies back in the day.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/09/national-party-mp-jian-yang-admits-training-spies.html

Its just absurd these people are MP's.

NZer's need to start to wake the fuk up!! GET RID OF LIST MP'S!!!!

This is one area where Australia has it right!

Laava

19th July 2019, 07:33

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/attachments/89b6dd32-61b1-4e2b-819a-f2578af335ff-jpeg.163156/

Viking01

19th July 2019, 11:21

Don, make up your mind, will you ?

https://www.rt.com/usa/464505-trump-omar-send-her-back/

Meanwhile, on a more reliable new source:

https://politics.theonion.com/trump-disavows-supporters-who-could-barely-keep-racist-1836505775

pritch

19th July 2019, 11:36

The people who chant, "Lock her up" or "Send her home" or "USA USA USA" are the same sort of people who used to chant "Sieg Heil Sieg Heil Sieg Heil". And look how that ended.

austingtir

19th July 2019, 11:42

The people who chant, "Lock her up" or "Send her home" or "USA USA USA" are the same sort of people who used to chant "Sieg Heil Sieg Heil Sieg Heil". And look how that ended.

No your just a demented lefty fuckwit.

Remember this is what you people are protecting. Pawns of the MSM much?

https://youtu.be/GdfMp4zgpFI?t=2

Katman

19th July 2019, 11:46

The people who chant, "Lock her up" or "Send her home" or "USA USA USA" are the same sort of people who used to chant "Sieg Heil Sieg Heil Sieg Heil". And look how that ended.

What about those who chant anti-Palestinian slogans?

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/video-israeli-mobs-celebrate-jerusalem-day-anti-palestinian-rampage-old-city

austingtir

19th July 2019, 11:47

austingtir

19th July 2019, 11:57

Here's a cold hard dose of reality for the lefty supporters on here.

Look at the comments in this live stream and like/dislike ratio. Americans know communists when they see them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_PPCPEppWk

pritch

19th July 2019, 13:30

What about those who chant anti-Palestinian slogans?

Yeah them too. Ironic isn't it. I'd like to see BiBi in the Hague facing charges of crimes against humanity.

jasonu

19th July 2019, 14:16

The people who chant, "Lock her up" or "Send her home" or "USA USA USA" are the same sort of people who used to chant "Sieg Heil Sieg Heil Sieg Heil". And look how that ended.

That statement is not even smart enough to be called ignorant.

austingtir

19th July 2019, 15:34

The demons in Merkel cant stand that German anthem....

https://youtu.be/ilEolWazM6o

Iv never believed in Karma but Hitler had parkinsons and also destroyed europe....
Some blood lines are cursed I tell you.

Banditbandit

19th July 2019, 16:19

Who gives a crap these american citizens that likely voted for these clowns are likely either muslim agitators like them or communists or ANTIFA. All 4 of these harpies are from districts that are completely retarded liberal cesspools.

So the majority voters in those constituencies are all those things? That must be a worry for you ... I doubt you could name their constituencies - without looking it up ..

Are you seriously against Anti-FA ??? You must be a fascist then ..

I would say exactly the same stuff about Golriz, Genter

That must be a real worry for you ... especially as they got elected ..

the labour chinese MP who has dual citizen ship and connections to the Chinese CCP

Wrong - that's a National MP - one of Simon's mates ..

and national's Alfred Ngaro (if he keeps spouting off about being a zionist). Among others.

That made me fall about laughing .. Are you antri-Zionist. anti-Semitic as well?

Trumps words could apply to quite a few socialists/communists/Muslim agitators in our own parliament.

Yes - but Trump is wrong - an imbecile and a nasty person - very nasty ...

Laava

19th July 2019, 16:26

The people who chant, "Lock her up" or "Send her home" or "USA USA USA" are the same sort of people who used to chant "Sieg Heil Sieg Heil Sieg Heil". And look how that ended.
You are smack on the money with that one!

Banditbandit

19th July 2019, 16:26

Really??? is that true?

It is true that we have an MP with clear links to the Chinese intelligence ..

It is not true that he is Labour ..

He is National - a mate of Simple Simon ...

The one that the dingbat posted - below ..

Then theres the National MP that was actually training spies back in the day.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/09/national-party-mp-jian-yang-admits-training-spies.html

Banditbandit

19th July 2019, 16:29

This is one area where Australia has it right!

You realise that Oz does not have First Past the Post voting - they have a form of Proportional Representation - Preferential Voting - which means that whoever wins the most votes as Number 1 does not necessarily get into parliament.

You also realise that there is a current coalition Government in OZ - and that Labour (in opposition) was the party with the most votes?

Not that different to NZ in the end ...

Laava

19th July 2019, 16:29

Here's a cold hard dose of reality for the lefty supporters on here.

Look at the comments in this live stream and like/dislike ratio.

Here's a cold hard dose of reality for you. Fuck your loony links. Nobody takes you seriously, you are a trump troll. (Except Katman) I see you are sulking in the sin bin? Similar to what happened to you when you had your other login eh Scott?

Banditbandit

19th July 2019, 16:34

Americans know communists when they see them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_PPCPEppWk

Oh bullshit - you have absolutely no idea about communism ... and neither does trump or the ignorant trump supporters who cheer for his buzzwords ..

Katman

19th July 2019, 16:39

It is true that we have an MP with clear links to the Chinese intelligence ..

It is not true that he is Labour ..

He is National - a mate of Simple Simon ...

The one that the dingbat posted - below ..

Have you never heard of Raymond Huo?

Katman

19th July 2019, 16:52

Similar to what happened to you when you had your other login eh Scott?

Are you husaberk's twin?

pritch

19th July 2019, 16:55

You realise that Oz does not have First Past the Post voting - they have a form of Proportional Representation - Preferential Voting

I don't fully understand the Oz system but it has its own anomalies.

One of Pauline's party got himself elected to the senate but was then disqualified because he was not an Australian citizen, or held dual citizenship, or similar. Apparently their system stipulates that the next highest polling candidate from that party then gets the seat.

The next highest polling candidate was Fraser Anning with nineteen votes. Nineteen votes and a seat in the senate! You may recall Fraser, he distinguished himself by getting egged after he blamed the Christchurch mosque shootings on immigration.

Our system may not be perfect but we don't accidentally elect idiots with less votes than you can count on your fingers and toes.

pritch

19th July 2019, 16:58

Have you never heard of Raymond Huo?

Raymond Who?

Katman

19th July 2019, 17:02

One of Pauline's party got himself elected to the senate but was then disqualified because he was not an Australian citizen, or held dual citizenship, or similar. Apparently their system stipulates that the next highest polling candidate from that party then gets the seat.

Two Australian Greens MPs also lost their places in the Senate due to having dual citizenship.

Katman

19th July 2019, 17:04

Raymond Who?

That should have been Banditbandit's line.

It's probably the only way he could have saved any face.

Laava

19th July 2019, 17:23

Are you husaberk's twin?
You know it's true tho eh Stevie?

Laava

19th July 2019, 19:57

You know it's true tho eh Stevie?

Oh dear, that really upset you eh matey? Thanks for your red comments, sorry I made you cry!...��

oldrider

19th July 2019, 20:28

Have you never heard of Raymond Huo? - These guys had that all worked out years ago. - :lol: - It was a classic.

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husaberg

19th July 2019, 21:33

Oh dear, that really upset you eh matey? Thanks for your red comments, sorry I made you cry!...��

No matter what far fetched crud Yokel/Asstinger says Old stevo never says anything, odd isnt it. it was the same with assina it must be part of some troll code.

Katman

20th July 2019, 07:20

Oh dear, that really upset you eh matey? Thanks for your red comments, sorry I made you cry!...��

That's odd. My rep comment to you was word for word identical to your previous rep comment to me.

So why would you think I was crying?

Viking01

20th July 2019, 08:40

https://sputniknews.com/us/201907191076299735-trump-ilhan-omar-staged-welcome-minnesota-airport/

But, Don, the question is: Did she get a bigger crowd than for your
inauguration?

That's what I'd like to know.

oldrider

20th July 2019, 17:17

Niggle niggle niggle - sooner or later - "WAR" - surprise, surprise! - https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/19/middleeast/iran-hormuz-fifth-fleet-intl/index.html - :niceone:

Of course it will all be Iran's fault - :facepalm:

jasonu

20th July 2019, 17:48

Of course it will all be Iran's fault - :facepalm:

Why wouldn't it be? They're a bunch of cunts.

husaberg

20th July 2019, 18:17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ6DHr-1C8k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3x-qICdW6g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlHd-9ycbLs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghP-3_7Tg8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgEqlOFs56Q

pritch

21st July 2019, 19:01

"O, wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as others see us!" - Burns

sidecar bob

22nd July 2019, 08:16

That's odd. My rep comment to you was word for word identical to your previous rep comment to me.

So why would you think I was crying?

A plan so cunning, you could pin a tail on it and call it a Weasal.

Banditbandit

22nd July 2019, 14:35

Have you never heard of Raymond Huo?

That should have been Banditbandit's line.

It's probably the only way he could have saved any face.

Yeah - He is the Chinese Labour MP accused of having links with the Chinese CPR - and accused of being part of Chinese influence in the NZ elections. He quit as a committee chair - not because he had such links, but he believed it was in the best interests etc - and to be totally transparent - or something like that.

The National MP actually worked for the Chinese spy agency ..

That one was also linked to simple simon's scandal - of accepting a Chinese donation in return for a Chinese MP on the national benches.

husaberg

22nd July 2019, 17:37

Yeah - He is the Chinese Labour MP accused of having links with the Chinese CPR - and accused of being part of Chinese influence in the NZ elections. He quit as a committee chair - not because he had such links, but he believed it was in the best interests etc - and to be totally transparent - or something like that.

The National MP actually worked for the Chinese spy agency ..

That one was also linked to simple simon's scandal - of accepting a Chinese donation in return for a Chinese MP on the national benches.

Shhhhhhh We dont talk about National selling Mp Positions to the highest bidders.......

oldrider

23rd July 2019, 10:38

Trump, the "Squad", Israel, & Anti-Semitism. - Seriously? - Who really runs America? - :scratch:

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pritch

23rd July 2019, 11:20

lawfareblog.com is a website where American lawyers publish blogs of interest primarily to other American lawyers. There is also sometimes discussion of topical news items of more general interest. Being aware that the Mueller Report is not an easy read, even many of those such as politicians who are paid to read it have not made the effort.

Presumably because they feel the information contained in the report needs to be more accessible, Lawfare has produced a podcast series. There is not one voice droning on, where someone, say Jack Dorsey Twitter CEO, is required to be quoted they use a clip from the testimony he gave to Congress. It's his own voice. Episode 1 lays out the extensive (and very successful) attempts by the Russians to disrupt US social media. The duration of the podcast is thirty eight minutes.

"The Lawfare Podcast" is available from all the usual sources. We should all have time to listen: doing the dishes, in the shower, or just sitting with a beer after a hard days work, some will be able to listen at work.

Katman

23rd July 2019, 12:46

Episode 1 lays out the extensive (and very successful) attempts by the Russians to disrupt US social media.

Seriously - who gives a fuck?

America have been meddling in the political affairs of numerous countries for decades.

pritch

23rd July 2019, 12:59

Seriously - who gives a fuck?

America have been meddling in the political affairs of numerous countries for decades.

We know that. I offered a simplified source of knowledge on a complex topic. That some people prefer to remain ignorant is sad but understood.

Katman

23rd July 2019, 13:06

We know that. I offered a simplified source of knowledge on a complex topic. That some people prefer to remain ignorant is sad but understood.

So why do you keep banging on about Russian meddling in the US elections?

Grumph

23rd July 2019, 15:19

So why do you keep banging on about Russian meddling in the US elections?

I suggest that you :

1. Look again at the title of the thread - it's relevant.

2. Ponder just how easy it might be for an interested foreign power to influence NZ elections.

Katman

23rd July 2019, 15:24

2. Ponder just how easy it might be for an interested foreign power to influence NZ elections.

I'm not naive enough to imagine that they haven't tried already.

sugilite

23rd July 2019, 15:58

With Mueller testifying soon, watch Trump ramp up the Iran thing to max to deflect.
It matters not that Mueller is just going to cover what is already in the report, a whole new wave of Trump supporters are going to hear for the first time that the no obstruction mantra is a huge lie.

Viking01

23rd July 2019, 16:50

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-22/doj-responds-mueller-inquiry-remain-within-boundaries-your-report

Grumph

23rd July 2019, 16:56

So much for an independent judiciary. What can they do - strip him of his pension ?

Ocean1

23rd July 2019, 20:00

So much for an independent judiciary. What can they do - strip him of his pension ?

American Judiciary? Independent?

Never has been.

mashman

23rd July 2019, 20:42

Seriously - who gives a fuck?

America have been meddling in the political affairs of numerous countries for decades.

You don't think the russians mind controlling every american citizen to vote a certain way in the election is important :shifty:

jasonu

24th July 2019, 02:31

a whole new wave of Trump supporters.

Who are these people?

pritch

24th July 2019, 10:04

So why do you keep banging on about Russian meddling in the US elections?

You are being inconsistent. You enthusiastically adopt every crackpot conspiracy theory going, even some that aren't going.
"There needs to be an inquiry," seems to ring a bell?

Here we have a genuine and substantial conspiracy and you aren't at all interested. Isn't it deluded enough for you?

Katman

24th July 2019, 10:18

"There needs to be an inquiry," seems to ring a bell?

I believe it is far more pertinent for us in New Zealand to be sure that our military maintains it's integrity and acts in accordance with accepted rules of engagement than whether the Russians attempted to "disrupt US social media".

pritch

24th July 2019, 10:51

I believe it is far more pertinent for us in New Zealand to be sure that our military maintains it's integrity and acts in accordance with accepted rules of engagement than whether the Russians attempted to "disrupt US social media".

Thereby showing a certain lack of perspective. In my experience the rules of engagement are adhered to, but that does not prevent a random act to the contrary although such would be very rare. It certainly isn't proven yet in the current case. New Zealand though is never more than a bit player on the world stage.

There is clear evidence that Russia interfered to get Trump elected, there is also evidence that Trump is dancing to Putin's tune.
Trump is disrupting long standing alliances with resulting instability in the world, primarily to Russia's advantage.

Trump's stupid "easy to win" trade war could disrupt world trade, and as a trading nation we are at the mercy of any damage that he does.

His economic moves at home could crash the US economy which would also damage ours.

What is happening in the US of A effects us, but there is really nothing we can do about it. Our choice is simply to be informed or to join the 'sheeple'.

pritch

24th July 2019, 11:55

Another possible source of information will be available from today. "The Great Hack" should be available on Netflix. This deals with how Cambridge Analytica used information from Facebook to identify undecided voters and then form their opinion to support Trump in the USA, and Brexit in the UK.

Cambridge Analytica no longer exists as a company, but the same people are doing the same things for a new company. He

Grumph

24th July 2019, 12:47

pritch

24th July 2019, 14:21

And another member of Team Trump heads to a waiting cell.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/23/trump-adviser-bijan-rafiekian-convicted-1428176

Viking01

24th July 2019, 15:22

There's an interesting new twist just come out too. Trump's new most favoured news outlet - a little outfit called One America News - has been given a permanent seat at White House briefings and is encouraged to ask questions by Trump. Their political reporter is on the payroll of Sputnik - a Russian quasi news/propaganda govt organisation. He's registered with the Justice dept as an agent of a foreign power...
Sputnik is one of the Russian organisations implicated in social media "influencing' of the election.

Thanks for that heads-up. I hadn't come across that website in
my online news travels.

Had a brief look at its Wiki online. Looks like it's "equal opportunity".
Guaranteed to offend both sides of the political spectrum equally.

Just how I like my propaganda. Not too far to the left, not too
far to the right. Right down the centre, so to speak.

You can't be too careful these days.

The wife came home from doing the grocery shopping the other
day (I was busy) and she had bought a new breakfast cereal
("Just Right").

Well, I was sure that it was going to give me indigestion.

But after having read its general blurb ("well balanced") and its
list of ingredients ("full of nuts"), I relaxed. And having tried
it now, well, it's fine.

I could mention how it keeps you regular, but that might be
too much information.

oldrider

24th July 2019, 15:35

TruNews
Streamed live 7 hours ago
Today on TRUNEWS we discuss the infamous mafia lawyer Roy Cohn and his deep connection to his protege Donald J. Trump, including a never before seen photograph which Vanity Fair alleges is the President dressed up like a Nero-era centurion. Rick Wiles, Edward Szall, Doc Burkhart, Kerry Kinsey. Airdate: July 23, 2019

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Grumph

24th July 2019, 16:50

Thanks for that heads-up. I hadn't come across that website in
my online news travels.

Had a brief look at its Wiki online. Looks like it's "equal opportunity".
Guaranteed to offend both sides of the political spectrum equally.

Just how I like my propaganda. Not too far to the left, not too
far to the right. Right down the centre, so to speak.

You can't be too careful these days.

I've never seen it. Possibly more relevant in the Trump context is that the front staff - females anyway - are described on another forum as "younger and hotter than Fox".....

Katman

25th July 2019, 08:45

Well so much for all the excitement of "Mueller testifying soon".

Of the clips that I've watched so far, all I'm really seeing is an old man showing apparent signs of the onset of dementia.

pritch

25th July 2019, 12:21

Well so much for all the excitement of "Mueller testifying soon".

Of the clips that I've watched so far, all I'm really seeing is an old man showing apparent signs of the onset of dementia.

Yeah, you could see that, Michael Moore did and said so. Or you could see a very experienced lawyer being very careful with his words.

The Democrats did rather better than I thought they would in their questioning. The Republicans did what was expected.

The problem is that apparently very few people have read the report, even in Congress where they are paid to read the bloody thing. This in spite of the fact that it's available free from the Justice Dept website, although the careless rich can buy a copy.

The Democrats were hoping to get an easily digestible movie version of the report. In that they were shit outa luck.

jasonu

25th July 2019, 12:21

Katman

25th July 2019, 12:43

The problem is that apparently very few people have read the report

Mueller gave a great impression of someone who hadn't even bothered to read their own report.

pritch

25th July 2019, 15:14

Not really. It’s some 400 pages a lot of which he didn’t write. He had seventeen lawyers on his team. He wanted to be correct and he was constantly checking the report and that he had the question right.

Gym Jordan likes to star at these things, he’s the one who never wears a jacket. He was a wrestling coach or gym teacher at a school where it’s alleged that the doctor was fiddling with the boys. Gym says he knew nothing about the sexual goings on, but the former pupils say they complained to him but he just giggled.

A court case has just been filed naming several of the teachers including Gym. That should keep him occupied for a while. The judge might even insist he wear a jacket.

Katman

25th July 2019, 15:19

Not really. It’s some 400 pages a lot of which he didn’t write.

I do hope you're not suggesting that he could be forgiven for not reading the whole report.

Katman

25th July 2019, 15:31

A court case has just been filed naming several of the teachers including Gym. That should keep him occupied for a while.

Probably not.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/17/jordan-osu-sexual-abuse-report-1331202

(Unless you have information that post dates May of this year).

pritch

25th July 2019, 15:35

(Unless you have information that post dates May of this year).

July 18th is later than May. Try and keep up.

pritch

25th July 2019, 15:36

I do hope you're not suggesting that he could be forgiven for not reading the whole report.

No, but I don't expect him to have learned the whole thing off by heart either.

Katman

25th July 2019, 16:00

July 18th is later than May. Try and keep up.

I do hope you're not referring to the online articles that Google found for you - dated July 18th 2018.

jasonu

25th July 2019, 16:13

No, but I don't expect him to have learned the whole thing off by heart either.

He was in charge of it (Muller Report) and put his name to it Muller Report). He should know what is in it.

oldrider

25th July 2019, 17:01

Shambolic Mueller’s train wreck testimony has left his reputation trashed, the dumbstruck Democrats dead as dodos and President Trump laughing all the way to a second term?:- :rolleyes:

:o - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7282945/PIERS-MORGAN-Shambolic-Muellers-train-wreck-testimony-left-reputation-trashed.html - :Oops:

[Quote] How can Democrats, and the anti-Trump media for that matter, possibly keep this Russia collusion nonsense going any longer after today? [Unquote] - :confused:

Just watch the Democrats now show the world how to really "flog a dead horse". - :bash:-:bash:-:bash:-:bash:-:bash:-:bash:-:bash:-:bash:-:bash:-:bash:

pritch

25th July 2019, 21:40

I do hope you're not referring to the online articles that Google found for you - dated July 18th 2018.

Fuck! I hate it when that happens. What a let down. At least it wasn't Google, I don't normally use it. The item showed up in social media as if it was current.

I would really have liked Jordan to be handed the arse card too.

sugilite

26th July 2019, 03:15

Well, I listened/watched all 7 hours of the Mueller testimony yesterday.
My takeaways.....

1. While yes he did seem pretty bumbling at times, my impression was he simply wanted to be exactly sure he was not being misquoted in any way what so ever. Just one swapped out word can change everything. To what I could make out, he only made one small error, which he later corrected at the start of round 2. Now to the people putting the boot in to him - can they honestly say they could get through 7 hours of questions about a 400+ page report and make only one small error? Mueller a bumbling fool? Hardly.

2. He is a smart, exacting and very fair man. He did not give either the right or the left any cannon fodder that was not due. He did not buy into either sides games - smart.

3. He buried once and for all Trumps "No collusion. No obstruction - total exoneration" bullshit. The man is guilty of multiple counts of obstruction and should be impeached - end of.

4. The right were completely ineffective in pulling apart Mueller's character and made rambling statements that were not questions at all.

5. The left in many cases made dicks of themselves by clumsily attempting to get Mueller to read excerpts from the report in order to get sound bites for later use. It was clear from their first attempt that was never going to work, but it was like they seemed to think the lemming approach of charging over the cliff was somehow going to work. I get that their whole premise was to educate those watching that Trump is guilty - but I feel they could of done it a lot better than they did. And they too were guilty of making rambling statements that were not questions and as a result missed many opportunities had they handled it better. For a start they should of quoted which paragraph/page they were referencing at the start of every question they asked in order to save a lot of time with Mueller not having to ask them - idiots. The left seemed completely incapable of changing their game plan on the fly. Hardly inspiring new members to their team.

6. Democracy is pretty much dead in the US. They have a lawless president with no one doing anything meaningful to pull him up on it, and it is getting worse and worse. Whether it is because the Democrats have no spine for it, or they are simply to disorganized to actually implement their oversight responsibilities - or it could be they are thinking they will just pick up Trumps dangerous precedents and use the "new norm" for their own purposes when they get in power.

7. The really important part of the report, - the fact the Russians and other countries are hard out interfering in their elections was largely ignored and I'm sure that must make Mueller himself very despondent about the whole thing. Democracy in the US is upon the operating table on life support - all the while the two teams are running around arguing over whether the curtains in the operating room should be red or blue - pathetic.

Katman

26th July 2019, 06:03

Fuck! I hate it when that happens. What a let down. At least it wasn't Google, I don't normally use it. The item showed up in social media as if it was current.

Yeah, do try and keep up.

:facepalm:

husaberg

26th July 2019, 18:22

Donald Trump goes to the doctors and says,
"Doctor doctor, every time I look in the
mirror I get aroused."

The doctor replies, "I'm not surprised...
you're a cunt."

oldrider

26th July 2019, 20:38

Donald Trump goes to the doctors and says,
"Doctor doctor, every time I look in the
mirror I get aroused."

The doctor replies, "I'm not surprised...
you're a cunt."

Generally cunts "are" useful and or arousing - but not when they get to Donald's Size! - :oi-grr:

oldrider

26th July 2019, 21:08

All roads lead to Israel - what Israel wants - Israel gets

Tehran suspects Israel is being assisted by Moscow:- https://www.uawire.org/tehran-suspects-israel-is-being-assisted-by-moscow#

6 Iranians among 9 dead in Israeli strike on Syria, monitor says:- https://twitter.com/TimesofIsrael/status/1154478202242260993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F

How much evidence is needed - NWO Superpower the only country in the world that does exactly as it pleases when it pleases. - :corn: - (Bibi has been quiet lately, what's he up to?) - :scratch:

Viking01

27th July 2019, 10:00

https://off-guardian.org/2019/07/25/crowdstrikeout-muellers-own-report-undercuts-its-core-russia-meddling-claims/

pritch

27th July 2019, 10:22

A White House advisor told Trump that he had a dream in which Trump got his big parade: troops, bands, flag waving, the whole works.

"Was I smiling?" asked Trump.

"I don't know, it was a closed casket."

husaberg

27th July 2019, 12:16

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/de/de/21/dede215a783c1fb87176f521735f2fbc--donald-trump-jokes-funny-trump-memes.jpghttps://www.askideas.com/media/48/Hi-Do-You-Know-Who-I-Am-Funny-Donald-Trump-Meme-Picture.jpghttps://pics.me.me/if-donald-trump-is-the-answer-how-stupid-is-the-44607994.png

jasonu

28th July 2019, 10:36

oldrider

28th July 2019, 11:12

Still don't believe Trump is target of Epstein arrest? - http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2019/07/trump-sexual-abuse-of-boys.html - Where there's smoke etc? - :scratch:

How different would all of this been if he had just gone ahead and bombed Iran while he had the chance? - :rolleyes:

austingtir

28th July 2019, 11:47

Lets bring some balance back to this thread again:

How can anyone be a Democrat at this point? It's gotten pretty pathetic.

Not like republicans are great or anything.... But how can anybody be a democrat? it's mind blowing to think about how awful the party is right now.

-The leader of the party is either an alcoholic geriatric or a group of women that have a collective IQ of 80 and are only elected based on the fact that their constituents would vote for a retarded donkey if it had a D on it

-Their current party platform for 2020 is socialism and open borders

-They spent years sucking off bob mueller and pursuing a russia narrative which has been proven to be total bull sh*t and a complete waste of time

-Still trying to impeach the current president for... hurting feelings?

-Their 2020 prospects include a self declared socialist, a fake native american, and a dude with a husband named chasten

-Their party bases people's worth on their skin color, gender, and overall victim status. the more victim points you can rack up, the more qualified you are

https://media2.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/source.gif

They make Trump look like the god emperor that he is....:motu:

austingtir

28th July 2019, 12:14

And for those that have not seen the Iman Tawhidi tweets heres a catchup for you:

Ilhan Ohmar done goofed!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbGSuh4goMI

Russia collusion not even once.

Qatari's on the other hand.....

husaberg

28th July 2019, 13:48

Resorting to stupid jokes. Weak at best

https://pics.me.me/trump-supporters-fall-into-three-camps-too-arrogantto-admittrump-was-34372415.pnghttps://www.liveabout.com/thmb/GYplhOdhZkQ-PLmRVTSlwWherbQ=/768x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/trump-supporters-stupid-know-5791babf5f9b58cdf369ffb9.jpghttp://politicalpunchline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/trump-calling-stupid.pnghttps://socialnewsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/189sfx.jpghttps://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q4MnjUjm5H4/W2nhJNM_HFI/AAAAAAAAPxk/nuwAdo6DLuM2tVWUu6nVBqurSedr8IXTQCLcBGAs/s320/Trump%2Bblack%2Bfriends.jpghttps://www.memecreator.org/static/images/memes/4481408.jpg

jasonu

28th July 2019, 14:08

https://pics.me.me/trump-supporters-fall-into-three-camps-too-arrogantto-admittrump-was-34372415.pnghttps://www.liveabout.com/thmb/GYplhOdhZkQ-PLmRVTSlwWherbQ=/768x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/trump-supporters-stupid-know-5791babf5f9b58cdf369ffb9.jpghttp://politicalpunchline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/trump-calling-stupid.pnghttps://socialnewsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/189sfx.jpghttps://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q4MnjUjm5H4/W2nhJNM_HFI/AAAAAAAAPxk/nuwAdo6DLuM2tVWUu6nVBqurSedr8IXTQCLcBGAs/s320/Trump%2Bblack%2Bfriends.jpghttps://www.memecreator.org/static/images/memes/4481408.jpg

And there you go.

husaberg

28th July 2019, 14:20

And there you go.

Intersting that so many jokes are out and about, about the joke you have as your president, But guess what, the jokes on you.
I strongly urge you to keep voting for him, as its as funny as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlxmiFF85yU
some of the best at around 1.34

husaberg

28th July 2019, 15:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-kjJEFihto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXYehPRFrQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6zfp6lRw2E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1hSpyPTcqw

jasonu

28th July 2019, 15:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-kjJEFihto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXYehPRFrQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6zfp6lRw2E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1hSpyPTcqw

Desperation. Along with the whole Democrat party that is in tatters, you look like a fool.

husaberg

28th July 2019, 16:09

Desperation. Along with the whole Democrat party that is in tatters, you look like a fool.
You sound like Katman desperately narcissistically flailing about trying to blame others for your own shortcomings.............
Yeah its the democrats fault Trump is stupid, or appears under Google search engine so often as the most relevant example of an idiot. (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enNZ810NZ811&biw=1920&bih=937&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=MUo9XbDYB5H-rQH-kp3wCg&q=idiot&oq=idiot&gs_l=img.12..0i67j0l4j0i67j0j0i67l2j0.28278.29865. .31904...0.0..0.215.1038.0j1j4......0....1..gws-wiz-img.r_ouL5MFBvA&ved=0ahUKEwjwtNCqh9fjAhURfysKHX5JB64Q4dUDCAY)
Its only a mater of time before Trump uses a small loan (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/trumps-small-loan-from-his-father-was-more-like-60point7-million-nyt.html) and gets his German born dad (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/17/trump-keeps-saying-his-father-was-born-in-germany-he-wasnt) to get into his Civil war aircraf (https://time.com/5620936/donald-trump-revolutionary-war-airports/)t and Covfefe (ttps://www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-covfefe-tweet-2017-5?r=US&IR=T)the shit out of Nambee'a (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwTf9Dlb7jY)and the wind turbines whose noise cause cancer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bLbUoKpOms) he did that he would have the biggest crowds ever (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/22/trump-inauguration-crowd-sean-spicers-claims-versus-the-evidence)

austingtir

28th July 2019, 19:03

^^ LOL

Meanwhile back in the real world Barack Obama admits he's from Kenya..... Multiple times.

https://mobile.twitter.com/kbq225/status/1155140942090899462

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/a/o/b18719ed9f.jpg

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/s/z/6e6205d594.jpg

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/04e766382e.jpg

One or both of his parents fluent in Russian?
Is Russian a common language to learn?
Farms develop necessary (unique) skill-sets in order to produce results.
Stay awake.
Q

There are also Q posts about Loretta fuddy (the woman that signed off on his fake BC) dying in the plane crash.

https://qanon.pub/

austingtir

28th July 2019, 19:04

And Trump goes in on ANTIFA....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1155205025121132545

All the resident lefty antifa shills are going to have a mental break down.

And when the actual president of the UNITED STATES retweets this:

https://qanon.pub/data/media/e0d99fa0a9df2e3d117f0889bfc60f1146762c9b6da977afbd 1ad6e340469555.jpg

Laava

28th July 2019, 19:45

^^ LOL

Meanwhile back in the real world Barack Obama admits he's from Kenya..... Multiple times.

https://mobile.twitter.com/kbq225/status/1155140942090899462

One or both of his parents fluent in Russian?
Is Russian a common language to learn?
Farms develop necessary (unique) skill-sets in order to produce results.
Stay awake.
Q

There are also Q posts about Loretta fuddy (the woman that signed off on his fake BC) dying in the plane crash.

https://qanon.pub/

And Trump goes in on ANTIFA....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1155205025121132545

All the resident lefty antifa shills are going to have a mental break down.

And when the actual president of the UNITED STATES retweets this:

Wonder how long it will be before this clown gets his trainer wheels put back on again. Just got them off and straight back to posting made-up bullshit.
Candidate for "slow learner" award.

austingtir

28th July 2019, 19:50

Wonder how long it will be before this clown gets his trainer wheels put back on again. Just got them off and straight back to posting made-up bullshit.
Candidate for "slow learner" award.

If you and husaberk can get away with it why cant the rest of us? Funny thing is what I post is the truth and you lot are throwing hissy fits that you arent getting your own way in here with your $3.50 shill posts.

Ilhan done goofed....

https://scontent.fakl8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67339809_2425901224356613_4891911348633468928_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQlE1lLTrBlM87EJ5fQjuMarzuYiScnlq_3d37UBPRz 9FaYL_NoZAjxZ6PH7W2OEhSw&_nc_ht=scontent.fakl8-1.fna&oh=629773273dcd9733e91b82650c37f6ef&oe=5DEECAF2

Kickaha

28th July 2019, 19:54

Funny thing is what I post is the truth

You haven't done that yet

austingtir

28th July 2019, 20:07

You haven't done that yet

I have you just dont know it yet.

History wont be kind to you.... Neither will the forum search function.

pritch

28th July 2019, 20:07

Laava

28th July 2019, 20:17

If you and husaberk can get away with it why cant the rest of us? Funny thing is what I post is the truth and you lot are throwing hissy fits that you arent getting your own way in here with your $3.50 shill posts.

done goofed....

Lol! All you need now is a tiny bike and big shoes!��

austingtir

28th July 2019, 20:22

So the imbecile in the White House went on another of his rascist Twitter rants. He took aim at Rep Elijah Cummings (D) specifically, and at Baltimore generally. It would seem that he has pissed off part of the Baltimore population including the Editorial Board of the Baltimore Sun.

That last paragraph is strong stuff for a major paper:
https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-0728-trump-baltimore-20190727-k6ac4yvnpvcczlaexdfglifada-story.html

Trump didn't say anything about race in his tweets but you liberals immediately associated crime and urban decay with Black people.
Why is that?

BTW Baltimore is a chithole. Look at the date this was posted... its nothing to do with what Trump said. Its just facts.

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149632763&page=1
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=175828761
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=124122531&page=1
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=165916311&page=1
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167298581&page=1

Cliffs: Everywhere democrats are elected for decades they turn the places into complete chitholes.

Its got nothing to do with race. Wherever dems go they create chitholes.
https://nypost.com/2019/07/27/cnn-anchor-victor-blackwell-chokes-up-on-air-after-trump-rips-infested-baltimore/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYANRUos8Hg

look at this grown man crying like a little bitch:

Pathetic. Make sure to watch the end of the video.

If he "did" live there then why did he leave? =chithole!

Katman

28th July 2019, 20:31

Look at the date this was posted...

He's not very good at that.

Laava

28th July 2019, 21:02

Trump didn't say anything about race in his tweets but you liberals immediately associated crime and urban decay with Black people.
Why is that?

BTW Baltimore is a chithole. Look at the date this was posted... its nothing to do with what Trump said. Its just facts.

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149632763&page=1
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=175828761
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=124122531&page=1
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=165916311&page=1
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167298581&page=1

Cliffs: Everywhere democrats are elected for decades they turn the places into complete chitholes.

Its got nothing to do with race. Wherever dems go they create chitholes.
https://nypost.com/2019/07/27/cnn-anchor-victor-blackwell-chokes-up-on-air-after-trump-rips-infested-baltimore/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYANRUos8Hg

look at this grown man crying like a little bitch:

Pathetic. Make sure to watch the end of the video.

If he "did" live there then why did he leave? =chithole!

You are probably the only person on the internet who would go to a bodybuilding forum for your "facts".

pritch

28th July 2019, 21:09

He's not very good at that.

Hmmm 27 July 2019 which until about five hours ago was today our time? Seems like you share the fault?

austingtir

28th July 2019, 21:11

Hmmm 27 July 2019 which until about five hours ago was today our time? Seems like you share the fault?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc9t8iUIIk1rrw14ro2_500.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m73zt7v3cO1rrw14ro1_500.jpg

KFC buckets and bra's pass as shelters back in 2012?

austingtir

28th July 2019, 21:20

You are probably the only person on the internet who would go to a bodybuilding forum for your "facts".

TOP 10 most rat infested cities.. Listed by orkin

1.Chicago
2.Los Angeles
3.Washington, D.C.-Hagerstown
4.New York
5.San Francisco-Oak-San Jose
6.Baltimore
7.Philadelphia
8.Cleveland-Akron-Canton
9.Detroit
10.Denver

https://www.orkin.com/press-room/chicago-holds-top-spot-on-rattiest-cities-list

democRAT infested.

pritch

28th July 2019, 21:20

You are probably the only person on the internet who would go to a bodybuilding forum for your "facts".

I note that this genius asked why Victor Blackwell left Baltimore. Blackwell actually explained that in his talk but, like most other things, it went straight over Yokel's head.

Yokel says also that it had nothing to do with race. Check a photo of Elijah Cummings. And as Mr Blackwell points out there is language Trump only uses when dealing with brown people.

austingtir

28th July 2019, 21:25

I note that this genius asked why Victor Blackwell left Baltimore. Blackwell actually explained that in his talk but, like most other things, it went straight over Yokel's head.

Yokel says also that it had nothing to do with race. Check a photo of Elijah Cummings. And as Mr Blackwell points out there is language Trump only uses when dealing with brown people.

There you go again making it about black people. He's a democrat. That runs a chithole city, thats why Trump is going after him.

It's the same as Phill Goff running Auckland into the ground and their long line of lefty socialist wannabe mayors. = homeless on the streets and in their cars in large numbers everytime.

https://twitter.com/kimKBaltimore/status/1155154116412366848

husaberg

28th July 2019, 21:30

Laava

28th July 2019, 21:54

TOP 10 most rat infested cities.. Listed by orkin

1.Chicago
2.Los Angeles
3.Washington, D.C.-Hagerstown
4.New York
5.San Francisco-Oak-San Jose
6.Baltimore
7.Philadelphia
8.Cleveland-Akron-Canton
9.Detroit
10.Denver

https://www.orkin.com/press-room/chicago-holds-top-spot-on-rattiest-cities-list

democRAT infested.
Wonder what the criteria were for that search? Only search american cities in the US with a population of 5m or more?
Who would be stupid enough to read anything into that? Present company excepted of course...

Grumph

29th July 2019, 06:27

Amusingly - but not for residents - one of the biggest landlords in Baltimore is Jared Kushner.

Google "kushnerville" for a laugh. Preidents son in law is a slumlord....

Katman

29th July 2019, 07:17

Hmmm 27 July 2019 which until about five hours ago was today our time? Seems like you share the fault?

:facepalm:

Katman

29th July 2019, 07:27

Wonder what the criteria were for that search? Only search american cities in the US with a population of 5m or more?
Who would be stupid enough to read anything into that? Present company excepted of course...

Please tell us about this conspiracy that Orkin are part of.

You know I love a good conspiracy.

Laava

29th July 2019, 07:38

Please tell us about this conspiracy that Orkin are part of.

You know I love a good conspiracy.
Wow, did you actually click on the link and read it?
Can't get enough meaningless trivia in your life eh?

Katman

29th July 2019, 07:42

Wow, did you actually click on the link and read it?
Can't get enough meaningless trivia in your life eh?

It's a pest control company who rank Baltimore as the 6th highest rat infested city in America.

Did you not read it?

Grumph

29th July 2019, 08:26

It's a pest control company who rank Baltimore as the 6th highest rat infested city in America.

Did you not read it?

The only unexpected one in there is Denver. Except for Denver and Washington, they're all port cities.
Ports have been like that for centuries.

Katman

29th July 2019, 08:42

Ports have been like that for centuries.

I'm not disputing that.

I'm merely suggesting that DT's 'rat infested' comment might mean just that - rat infested.

It doesn't necessarily conclude that he's implying 'black infested' like some here are trying to suggest.

pritch

29th July 2019, 08:54

:facepalm:

You may face palm all you like but that item was "hot off the press", in reality the same day. I don't know what Yokel was reading, but then in all probability neither did he.

Trump, of course, doesn't back down. He has since fired off more angry racist rubbish.

A comment on Twitter this morning. A guy who has had a Trump sign in his front yard since 2016 took it down yesterday. His neighbour wondered why and asked. The guy said his ten year old son had asked him how he could support a racist like Trump. He thought about that and took down the sign. "If you haven't got the respect of your kid, you've got nothing."

Grumph

29th July 2019, 09:33

I'm not disputing that.

I'm merely suggesting that DT's 'rat infested' comment might mean just that - rat infested.

It doesn't necessarily conclude that he's implying 'black infested' like some here are trying to suggest.

Given his reported remarks on similar subjects, I'd suggest that was exactly the meaning he intended.

The man should know about rats anyway - his restaurants are becoming well known for the level of rat infestations.
Even the Trump hotel down the road from the White House has had kitchen violations.

Katman

29th July 2019, 10:14

You may face palm all you like but that item was "hot off the press", in reality the same day. I don't know what Yokel was reading, but then in all probability neither did he.

Go back and read his post again.

He was referring to the date on the body building forum links that he posted - not the Baltimore Sun article.

Double :facepalm:

oldrider

29th July 2019, 10:20

5 signs US and Iran are not going to war anytime soon - :no: - https://www.rt.com/op-ed/465150-us-iran-war-security/ - :corn: (What's happened to Bibi lately?)

Laava

29th July 2019, 13:28

Did you not read it?

Of course not,
a, it is not important
b, it is unlikey to be correct
c, yokel posted it, probably linked from a bodybuilding forum, so it is only good for amusement value.

Amusement over, I am going back to work now.

onearmedbandit

29th July 2019, 14:24

probably linked from a bodybuilding forum, so it is only good for amusement value.

How's that different to things linked from a motorcycling forum?

sugilite

29th July 2019, 14:38

How's that different to things linked from a motorcycling forum?

Because our brains are not rotted out with steroids - motorcyclists are well known for being pillars of virtuosity :innocent:

Laava

29th July 2019, 15:18

How's that different to things linked from a motorcycling forum?
It isn't. Not too many people take it seriously, unless it is bullshit. In which case, .....

pritch

29th July 2019, 17:23

Go back and read his post again.

Hardly. I normally don't read his posts once - unless somebody quotes them.

The US has a huge opioid addiction problem, there are more people dying of that than in the various wars that country has been taking part in. The drug pushers in this case were the big pharmaceutical companies.

There are multiple reasons for what now amounts to something of a plague, but somehow I don't think Yokel's body building links will shed light where there was darkness. So... No thanks.

austingtir

29th July 2019, 17:35

^^
https://i.redd.it/dnakiu0cw3d31.png

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know, that Elijah Cummings has done a terrible job for the people of his district, and of Baltimore itself. Dems always play the race card when they are unable to win with facts. Shame!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1155547255916642305

Laava

29th July 2019, 18:34

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/attachments/screen-shot-2019-07-26-at-14-06-34-png.164309/

husaberg

29th July 2019, 19:30

According the the ranking list i just seen
Trump is rater as the 42 worst president.
Beaten only by James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson

James Buchanan Historians fault him for his failure to address the issue of slavery and the secession of the Southern states and generally consider him to be one of the worst presidents in U.S. history.
the other Andrew Johnson also a one term President like Buchanan, was impeached.

jasonu

30th July 2019, 02:21

Hardly.

The US there are more people dying of that than in the various wars that country has been taking part in. .

I'd like to see where you got this information from.

oldrider

30th July 2019, 11:07

austingtir

30th July 2019, 12:55

US private military companies? WTF :scratch: https://twitter.com/EmbassyofRussia/status/1155941975759020032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - Exempts Trump from warmongering and saves face - it's not his fault? :innocent:

I dont agree with it but whats the difference between this and afghanistan in the 70's and 80's?

The US has been doing this stuff since adam was a boy. And they aint going to stop any time soon either.

That all said I think in some cases its a necessary evil. And imo it was John McCain, Hillary and OBama that kicked off the Syrian episode not Trump. Atleast one of them is dead. McCain was nothing more than a warmongering traitorous pos who imo deserved to hang.

pritch

30th July 2019, 14:08

US private military companies?

This reminded me of something sort of military.

These days many military, and similar type people, wear smart watches that record their exercise on Strava or similar, as do civilians. A while back there was a news item about a secret CIA base in Africa that was revealed by the residents getting exercise by running around the inside of the camp perimeter. In the middle of darkest Africa there was this bright spot of light revealing the many laps of their hitherto secret compound.

I'll just leave this Guardian item here 'cause the photo is relevant. The US base toward the top of the photo is major and was no secret. The previously unknown base, thought to be CIA, is the much smaller one toward the bottom left of the photograph.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/29/pentagon-strava-fitness-security-us-military

husaberg

30th July 2019, 16:30

Hardly. I normally don't read his posts once - unless somebody quotes them.

The US has a huge opioid addiction problem, there are more people dying of that than in the various wars that country has been taking part in. The drug pushers in this case were the big pharmaceutical companies.

There are multiple reasons for what now amounts to something of a plague, but somehow I don't think Yokel's body building links will shed light where there was darkness. So... No thanks.

Odd, i see the opioid related deaths have increased dramatically since Trump took office....................:msn-wink: Surely he claim credit for that.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/US_timeline._Opioid_deaths.jpg/640px-US_timeline._Opioid_deaths.jpg

its pretty easy to figure out whats killing more people.
https://dod.defense.gov/News/Casualty-Status/
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/US_drug_overdose_deaths.jpg

austingtir

30th July 2019, 17:31

Odd, i see the opioid related deaths have increased dramatically since Trump took office....................:msn-wink: Surely he claim credit for that.[/url]

^^
What a complete turkey!!

Anybody with more than two braincells can see the trend in that graph was going that direction way before Trump took office. And IMO thats just more fake news as Trump is the only one that has actually tackled the opoid epidemic in the states.

Do you eat shit for breakfast, lunch and dinner just so you can come on here and spew it back out again?

Viking01

30th July 2019, 17:33

https://sputniknews.com/us/201907301076401781-ive-singled-out-putin-as-an-adversary-mcconnell-blasts-allegations-of-kremlin-conspiracy/

I see that Mitch McConnell has been getting called all sorts of names, and one
that began with the "R" letter (no, not Republican. "Russian").

But I suppose he has been in US politics long enough to be able to weather
a little name calling.

Though the following extract from the above article did intrigue me:

"Last week, McConnell blocked two bills introduced by Senate Minority Leader
Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) that would
introduce changes intended to secure US elections from hacking or meddling.

One bill would require the use of paper voting ballots, while the other would
require candidates, their campaign staff and relatives to inform the FBI about
offers of assistance from foreign governments, according to The Hill."

1. Re-instate a paper ballot, produce an audit trail, and be able to support
a recount.

Just imagine not being reliant on those electronic voting machines that could
change a vote (from Republican to Democrat, or v.v.) or which could lose the
equivalent of whole ballot boxes.

And being able to do a re-count in the event of a disputed vote.

2. Putting the onus on candidates or their staff to report "foreign interference".

Just imagine if it wasn't only the Russians who were "interfering" in US elections.
And that politicians and elected officials could risk investigation and prosecution.

No. Far too radical.

Mitch, just as well that you knocked such nonsense on the head good and early.
They're lucky to have you. And I take back everything I've ever said about you.

Laava

30th July 2019, 18:40

^^
What a complete turkey!!

Anybody with more than two braincells can see the trend in that graph was going that direction way before Trump took office. And IMO thats just more fake news as Trump is the only one that has actually tackled the opoid epidemic in the states.

Do you eat shit for breakfast, lunch and dinner just so you can come on here and spew it back out again?

Fuck me, that really is the po calling the kettle black...

husaberg

30th July 2019, 18:51

Using the Yokel logic
Trump cant claim credit for these then
Seeing as the trend was there prior ot him entering office and all.............:facepalm:
"As Anybody with more than two braincells can see the trend in that graph was going that direction way before Trump took office".:doh:
342582342584342586

austingtir

30th July 2019, 19:57

Poor hillary (not) she was counting on being president so she could cover all this up....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_jtGF4NeI

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/959c5120e7.jpg

Voltaire

31st July 2019, 07:13

Swamp needs a drain'n
Could take a while.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaoXAwl9kw

oldrider

31st July 2019, 10:30

sugilite

31st July 2019, 10:58

^^
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know, that Elijah Cummings has done a terrible job for the people of his district, and of Baltimore itself. Dems always play the race card when they are unable to win with facts. Shame!

Now I hope your sitting down, but I actually agree with you, that statement on it's own is not inherently racist, though he does not seem to mention shit holes that whites reside in - you should see what I have seen here in Arkansas, would not let my dog live in those places!
HOWEVER - seems to have slipped Trumps mind that his own Son in law is a slum lord owning many properties in Baltimore that have racked up hundreds of violations
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-jared-kushner-baltimore-housing-projects-racked-code-violations-1451479

pzkpfw

31st July 2019, 18:01

NY Fire Commissioners Call for New 9/11 Investigation, Citing “Overwhelming Evidence of Explosives” https://www.activistpost.com/2019/07/ny-fire-commissioners-call-for-new-9-11-investigation-citing-overwhelming-evidence-of-explosives.html - :soon: . :wait:

Commissioner not quite what it sounds.

I'll be following that here http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12771564#post12771564

husaberg

31st July 2019, 18:15

Commissioner not quite what it sounds.

I'll be following that here http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12771564#post12771564

its not the NYFD is a tinpot volunteer brigade committee that represent a borough of 40,000 people. Its akin to the Taupo district council saying they want a referendum.
Reminds me of the engineers/ pilots against 911 where most members were neither pilots or engineers.

Viking01

31st July 2019, 19:14

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/07/30/led-ted-cruz-gop-senators-call-trump-bypass-congress-give-rich-americans-another-tax

pzkpfw

31st July 2019, 21:43

*their

789

pritch

1st August 2019, 11:43

you should see what I have seen here in Arkansas, would not let my dog live in those places!
HOWEVER - seems to have slipped Trumps mind that his own Son in law is a slum lord owning many properties in Baltimore that have racked up hundreds of violations

Yeah I saw a photo essay about a place where the people live in near derelict trailers and the sewerage just flows out onto the ground behind the trailers.

Trump has fired off more angry tweets, this time aimed at Don Lemon who is the "dumbest man on television" and claiming that he, Trump, is the least racist person.

Lemon though has something in common with Cummings, Ocasio Cortez, Tlaib, Pressley and Omar, all of whom have recently been attacked by Trump. He's brown. Sure, it's nothing to do with race.

onearmedbandit

1st August 2019, 11:48

Lemon though has something in common with Cummings, Ocasio Cortez, Tlaib, Pressley and Omar, all of whom have recently been attacked by Trump. He's brown. Sure, it's nothing to do with race.

Wait what Trump has never criticised anyone white skin?

pritch

1st August 2019, 11:59

Wait what Trump has never criticised anyone white skin?

He has, but generally he tends to use slightly different language for brown people.

jasonu

1st August 2019, 12:43

He has, but generally he tends to use slightly different language for brown people.

and which language are you referring to?

sugilite

1st August 2019, 15:09

He has, but generally he tends to use slightly different language for brown people.

I agree, he is playing the distraction game. Starting feuds with people of colour, just below the line of undeniable racism, just enough below it that republicans can deny it. But if course it is designed to distract from all the other shit swirling around him.

In other news, if arsestinger thinks Trump is going to win the important agricultural States, he can think again. As mentioned his name is shit around these parts. I actually saw a bumper sticker with his name on it for the first in over a year, and it was a septic tank retrieval truck lol.
https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/trade-war-farmers-trump-markets-154935903.html

And yes, the trailer parks are as you describe them. Also, there is a lot of neighborhoods where whole blocks of houses have been abandoned back in the GFC, and they are just rotting away. And another GFC is looming as the financial idiots are up to the same tricks, but this time the USA Government will be starting with a multi trillion deficit - no bail out for the banks this time.
So many of Trumps businesses have gone bankrupt. Even his casino businesses and the only way you can go bankrupt with those is if you steal too much out the back door with them. This is who is running the largest economy in the World and he can do it without even having his tax records vetted. They say the people get the Government they deserve - but I'm not sure they deserve what is coming.

husaberg

1st August 2019, 17:43

https://cdn.technologyreview.com/i/images/so18-nowfakenews-1.jpg?sw=550&cx=197&cy=375&cw=2078&ch=2771

President Trump focused on his own hardships since taking office during his commencement address Wednesday at the United States Coast Guard Academy, saying,
"No politician in history — and I say this with great surety — has been treated worse or more unfairly."
Abraham Lincoln
John F. Kennedy
Robert Kennedy
Nelson Mandela
Lech Wałęsa
Mahatma Gandhi
Indira Gandhi
Martin Luther King Jr
Alexei Navalny
John W. Stevens
Hiram Revels
Boris Nemtsov
Plus thousands of others might disagree

jasonu

2nd August 2019, 02:29

He has, but generally he tends to use slightly different language for brown people.

and which language are you referring to?

Deathly silence.

Exactly what I thought.
Chicken shit.

jasonu

2nd August 2019, 02:32

https://cdn.technologyreview.com/i/images/so18-nowfakenews-1.jpg?sw=550&cx=197&cy=375&cw=2078&ch=2771

Abraham Lincoln
John F. Kennedy
Robert Kennedy
Nelson Mandela
Lech Wałęsa
Mahatma Gandhi
Indira Gandhi
Martin Luther King Jr
Alexei Navalny
John W. Stevens
Hiram Revels
Boris Nemtsov
Plus thousands of others might disagree

Is that all you've got?
I see you have also gone quiet on defending the indefensible NZ Failour Party...

husaberg

2nd August 2019, 07:53

Is that all you've got?
I see you have also gone quiet on defending the indefensible NZ Failour Party...

Okay you are clearly fine with your president being a narcissistic compulsive lair detached from reality,with a persecution complex and a very small penis. But fail to reconise others find it a bit of a worry, when hes ialso n control of a country with a large arsenal of Nuclear weapons.
As for your other what are you talking about what post/s that has not be responded do to do you refer to. Given that you have a propensity to also post stuff without any proof it will be interesting.

Katman

2nd August 2019, 08:32

pritch

2nd August 2019, 09:31

We all know, or should know, that Trump doesn't like reading. That's a large part of why he's so ignorant. It turns out now that his teleprompter is loaded with phonetic spellings to make it easier for him.

He was addressing a crowd in Virginia and his prompter contained mention of George Wythe, an important historical figure. One of the signatories to the Declaration of Independence no less. So, as they do, in the teleprompter the name Wythe was spelled 'With' to give Trump a steer as to how to pronounce it correctly. So Trump read the name - and then he decided to wing it. He spelled out the name W-i-t-h. "An incredible name... an incredible name".

There was some murmering in the audience because they all knew the correct spelling. It wasn't one of his rallies, they don't know anything much.

I can't find it on Youtube.
The curious can see it here though: https://twitter.com/KevinlyFather/status/1156237442904576001

jasonu

2nd August 2019, 10:12

Okay you are clearly fine with your president being a narcissistic compulsive lair detached from reality,with a persecution complex and a very small penis. But fail to reconise others find it a bit of a worry, when hes ialso n control of a country with a large arsenal of Nuclear weapons.
As for your other what are you talking about what post/s that has not be responded do to do you refer to. Given that you have a propensity to also post stuff without any proof it will be interesting.

Why are you now talking about the size of another mans genitals?

husaberg

2nd August 2019, 12:28

Why are you so worried about the size of Donald Trump's penis?

Why are you now talking about the size of another mans genitals?

Perhaps you should both figure out what a metaphor is.
But as per usual Jason and Stevo provide nothing just troll.
Maybe one of you two trolls might want to explain exactly how Trump has been treated worse than any other politician in history? or just slink off back under the bridge.

Grumph

2nd August 2019, 12:29

Why are you now talking about the size of another mans genitals?

As light relief from the US administration allowing the ONLY current nuclear arms treaty to expire without an extension or replacement in view...

It runs out very shortly - and Bolton for one doesn't want it extended. Who knows what they've told Trump - or what Putin's told Trump...

pritch

2nd August 2019, 12:45

or what Putin's told Trump...

That reminds me. Trump has reportedly phoned Putin and offered help with what are apparently major fires burning in Siberia.

Contrast that with his treatment of California: he abused them for not raking up the leaves in the forest, which is apparently where the phrase "forest management" lead to in his mind. When Californian politicians responded negatively, he threatened to cut off government money to California. If you were still in any doubt as to how stupid Trump is, that should be all you need to know.

California is a big net federal tax payer. It's the money from California and New York etc that keeps the southern broke arsed states afloat. If Trump stopped paying California, it would be reasonable for them to withhold their taxes, they'd be way ahead on the deal.

husaberg

2nd August 2019, 12:53

That reminds me. Trump has reportedly phoned Putin and offered help with what are apparently major fires burning in Siberia.

Contrast that with his treatment of California: he abused them for not raking up the leaves in the forest, which is apparently where the phrase "forest management" lead to in his mind. When Californian politicians responded negatively, he threatened to cut off government money to California. If you were still in any doubt as to how stupid Trump is, that should be all you need to know.

California is a big net federal tax payer. It's the money from California and New York etc that keeps the southern broke arsed states afloat. If Trump stopped paying California, it would be reasonable for them to withhold their taxes, they'd be way ahead on the deal.

You have to laught at that considering he said this

“We’re giving away $54 billion in foreign aid. So we give money to countries, but we don’t give money to our own country, which is another thing that I’ve been complaining about,”
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/trump-cabinet-meeting-foreign-aid/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&v=T1i31qQw6xQ

sugilite

2nd August 2019, 13:36

With Trumps proven track record of bullying and manipulation one has to wonder what the hell he has over the reprehensible critter Moscow Mitch to get him to pull this shit :shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq2zdtDrm2Q

sugilite

2nd August 2019, 13:42

Contrast that with his treatment of California: he abused them for not raking up the leaves in the forest, which is apparently where the phrase "forest management" lead to in his mind.

I was tempted at the time to put a bogus advert in the local paper here calling for volunteers to rake up the huge forests around these parts - I was going to call the exercise "Rake For Trump". Just to show people how absolutely absurd that suggestion really was. The amount of deciduous trees dropping leaves for winter here would make the task manifestly impossible. My American Fiancee said she did not want the attention and talked me out of it - dammit :lol:

Katman

2nd August 2019, 14:06

With Trumps proven track record of bullying and manipulation one has to wonder what the hell he has over the reprehensible critter Moscow Mitch to get him to pull this shit

Do you plan on being equally as vocal when America next interferes with another country's election?

sugilite

2nd August 2019, 14:49

Do you plan on being equally as vocal when America next interferes with another country's election?

Sure, the USA is guilty of tampering with countless countries elections. Maybe this is reaping what they have sown. What I'm finding is I find it amazing to watch this unbelievably blatant corruption playing out in plain sight now - before they have been a lot more stealthy - clearly no more. I do have a very good reason why I'm so hot on what is going on with Trump and the USA, but nothing I'm going to share online or even over a phone line. I'll be passing by you in a few weeks, will drop by and tell you why in person if the timing works out.

Katman

2nd August 2019, 15:10

What I'm finding is I find it amazing to watch this unbelievably blatant corruption playing out in plain sight now - before they have been a lot more stealthy - clearly no more.

America has always been quite blatant in their interfering - to anyone viewing their actions with open eyes.

oldrider

2nd August 2019, 16:01

Some journalists in the Jewish media are starting to complain that President Donald Trump is “loving Israel” just a little too much? - :rolleyes:

- http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-agents-of-influence/ - Who does Trump actually work for? - :Oops: - Not a good look, when even "they" are getting embarrassed? - :whistle:

pritch

2nd August 2019, 17:12

America has always been quite blatant in their interfering - to anyone viewing their actions with open eyes.

I may be wrong, but I don't think that's what he was talking about.

There is now open corruption by politicians in the USA, and there has been since Trump started appointing his cabinet. Moscow Mitch McConnell is married to a woman named Elaine Chow. Her father is a wealthy Chinese shipping magnate. She is Transport Secretary in Trumps cabinet. Despite being required to divest herself of her massive shareholding in the biggest US roading company, she retained her shares and would periodically make a speech about infrastructure. Everytime she did that the company share price went up.

A Russian oligarch Deripaska was sanctioned for interfering in the 2016 US elections. Now though he has been cleared to build a new aluminium plant in Kentucky, one of the broke arse southern states. Kentucky has an average life expectancy ranked 49th in the USA, equal with Libya in world rankings. Now there's something to be proud of. Moscow Mitch is one of the two Senators representing Kentucky. The other senator is Rand Paul which probably goes some way to explain why Kentucky is so backward.

Re the smelter:
https://www.newsweek.com/company-russian-oligarch-millions-aluminum-plant-mitch-mcconnell-1397061

Viking01

2nd August 2019, 22:25

https://www.rt.com/usa/465601-soros-millions-democrat-funding/

oldrider

2nd August 2019, 23:44

UK "Up To Its Neck" In RussiaGate Affair, Secret Texts Reveal British Role In Trump Coup Effort - :rolleyes: - https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-01/uk-its-neck-russiagate-affair-secret-texts-reveal-british-role-trump-coup-effort - :whistle: - Best friends?

<iframe width="813" height="457" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/y0X5ubiSd0M" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

pritch

3rd August 2019, 10:34

UK "Up To Its Neck" In RussiaGate Affair,

Nothing new in any of that at all. It was an Australian Embassy official who first notified the FBI of possible Russian interference. The 'Steele Dossier' came a bit later.

oldrider

3rd August 2019, 11:22

Israel is a Kremlin decoy - By Timothy Fitzpatrick - July 12, 2019 - https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2019/07/12/israel-is-a-kremlin-decoy/ - :corn: - Interesting?

pritch

4th August 2019, 13:05

So this is posted on Twitter as being on the Facebook page of the El Paso shooter. I'm not checking because I don't want to remember the sick bastard's name. Anyhoo, guess who he admires?

husaberg

4th August 2019, 13:12

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ChOWPZd_vRI/WxVAEUA-m5I/AAAAAAABZyI/LmNfrX64GdY9u0ZO8ZiBMhveTXhI0NzFwCLcBGAs/s1600/32313938_1733012250069797_8163433370160726016_n.jp g

husaberg

4th August 2019, 13:20

So this is posted on Twitter as being on the Facebook page of the El Paso shooter. I'm not checking because I don't want to remember the sick bastard's name. Anyhoo, guess who he admires?

Since July 2018, the Giffords group says it and the Campaign Legal Center have detailed millions in illegal campaign contributions that the NRA funneled to at least seven federal candidates, including $25 million to the 2016 campaign of future President Donald Trump.

To commit “campaign finance violations of dramatic scale,” according to the 21-page complaint, the gun lobby used “a complex network of shell corporations.”

The contributions to the Trump campaign alone exceed the congressional limit by 9,259 times, the complaint says.

Distinguishing the NRA’s activity from independent political spending, which the Supreme Court has found poses less risk of corruption than direct contributions, the Giffords group says the NRA’s donations were coordinated with the candidates, putting them in violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act’s spending limits.
Federal campaign finance law sets a $5,000 spending limit for multicandidate political action committees. That amount drops to $2,800 for PACs supporting an individual candidate.
Provided there is no coordination with the candidates themselves, those limits don’t apply, however, when a PAC donates to outside groups on a candidate’s behalf.
According to Wednesday’s complaint, the NRA skirted the law by having the same vendors handling the candidates’ ads place its own ads supporting them as well.
Since 2014, the lawsuit alleges, the NRA used this scheme to hide up to $35 million in advertising expenditures that were coordinated with the federal candidates.
NRA members will gather Thursday in Indianapolis for the group’s annual meeting, where President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence are scheduled to speak Friday.
https://www.courthousenews.com/gun-violence-group-says-nra-made-illegal-donations-to-trump/

The lawsuit continues, “The illegal contributions to the Trump campaign alone are up to 9,259 times the limit set by Congress. Yet the Commission has taken no action on Plaintiff’s complaints.”
The president is not the only politician involved in the suit. Republicans, Thom Tillis (NC), Cory Gardner (CO), Tom Cotton (AR), Ron Johnson (R) and Josh Hawley (MO) and unsuccessful candidate, Matt Rosendale (MT) are also named.
The action argues:
“Taken together, these facts demonstrate an elaborate scheme for the NRA to unlawfully coordinate with the candidates it supports for federal office, including Donald J. Trump, Thom Tillis, Cory Gardner, Tom Cotton, Ron Johnson, Matt Rosendale, and Josh Hawley, while evading detection of its violations of federal law concerning the coordination of advertising communications through common vendors.”

https://hillreporter.com/nra-donated-up-to-9259-times-the-limit-to-trumps-campaign-according-to-new-lawsuit-32795

The F.B.I. and special counsel Robert Mueller are investigating meetings between N.R.A. officials and powerful Russian operatives, trying to determine if those contacts had anything to do with the gun group spending $30 million to help elect Donald Trump—triple what it invested on behalf of Mitt Romney in 2012. The use of foreign money in American political campaigns is illegal. One encounter of particular interest to investigators is between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian banker at an N.R.A. dinner.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/the-nra-spent-dollar30-million-to-elect-trump-was-it-russian-money

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRM9WVG-HbJ_KGvuIIGddNSLLQ4wIAmrNtkPnzkd83eC9UTJ3Jrsg

jasonu

4th August 2019, 17:30

Since July 2018, the Giffords group says it and the Campaign Legal Center have detailed millions in illegal campaign contributions that the NRA funneled to at least seven federal candidates, including $25 million to the 2016 campaign of future President Donald Trump.

To commit “campaign finance violations of dramatic scale,” according to the 21-page complaint, the gun lobby used “a complex network of shell corporations.”

The contributions to the Trump campaign alone exceed the congressional limit by 9,259 times, the complaint says.

Distinguishing the NRA’s activity from independent political spending, which the Supreme Court has found poses less risk of corruption than direct contributions, the Giffords group says the NRA’s donations were coordinated with the candidates, putting them in violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act’s spending limits.
Federal campaign finance law sets a $5,000 spending limit for multicandidate political action committees. That amount drops to $2,800 for PACs supporting an individual candidate.
Provided there is no coordination with the candidates themselves, those limits don’t apply, however, when a PAC donates to outside groups on a candidate’s behalf.
According to Wednesday’s complaint, the NRA skirted the law by having the same vendors handling the candidates’ ads place its own ads supporting them as well.
Since 2014, the lawsuit alleges, the NRA used this scheme to hide up to $35 million in advertising expenditures that were coordinated with the federal candidates.
NRA members will gather Thursday in Indianapolis for the group’s annual meeting, where President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence are scheduled to speak Friday.
https://www.courthousenews.com/gun-violence-group-says-nra-made-illegal-donations-to-trump/

The lawsuit continues, “The illegal contributions to the Trump campaign alone are up to 9,259 times the limit set by Congress. Yet the Commission has taken no action on Plaintiff’s complaints.”
The president is not the only politician involved in the suit. Republicans, Thom Tillis (NC), Cory Gardner (CO), Tom Cotton (AR), Ron Johnson (R) and Josh Hawley (MO) and unsuccessful candidate, Matt Rosendale (MT) are also named.
The action argues:
“Taken together, these facts demonstrate an elaborate scheme for the NRA to unlawfully coordinate with the candidates it supports for federal office, including Donald J. Trump, Thom Tillis, Cory Gardner, Tom Cotton, Ron Johnson, Matt Rosendale, and Josh Hawley, while evading detection of its violations of federal law concerning the coordination of advertising communications through common vendors.”

https://hillreporter.com/nra-donated-up-to-9259-times-the-limit-to-trumps-campaign-according-to-new-lawsuit-32795

The F.B.I. and special counsel Robert Mueller are investigating meetings between N.R.A. officials and powerful Russian operatives, trying to determine if those contacts had anything to do with the gun group spending $30 million to help elect Donald Trump—triple what it invested on behalf of Mitt Romney in 2012. The use of foreign money in American political campaigns is illegal. One encounter of particular interest to investigators is between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian banker at an N.R.A. dinner.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/the-nra-spent-dollar30-million-to-elect-trump-was-it-russian-money

Are you and Prick an item?

husaberg

4th August 2019, 17:57

https://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/Attitudes_v01_KA_hpEmbed_17x12_608.jpghttps://images.typeform.com/images/2Qji3PZPCFF3/image/default
https://assets-global.website-files.com/5c9122ca5f4904b8a2728554/5d0d69d5fb65815e495eedf3_ivn-poll-independents-ideologically-diverse-want-2020-challenger-two-party-establishment-84973.pnghttps://jilldennison.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/ethics-poll.png?w=750

pritch

4th August 2019, 19:17

And so? I have no skin in this game, I think most politicians are self-serving wankers. But what are you trying to prove with that image? The ChCh terrorist did a shout out to a popular youtuber (actually, the most popular), it had no relevance to his actions.

I'm not trying to prove anything. We don't get many glimpses in to the state of mind of mass shooters, other than something like, "I don't like Mondays". Some people will consider that photo completely unconnected with his crime. Others perhaps less so?

No doubt the psychiatrists will have a field day with him, but likely nothing will change.

husaberg

4th August 2019, 19:58

Donald Trump's leadership is viewed around the world about as favourably as that of Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to a new poll.
In its latest world leadership poll, only 31 percent approve of Mr Trump's leadership, compared to 30 percent who back Mr Putin - whose administration is regularly criticised for curtailing free speech, rigging elections and imprisoning political opponents.

China has also overtaken the US in the world's eyes, with 34 percent approval. Leading the pack amongst the world's powers is Germany, with 39 percent approval.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/02/kiwis-really-don-t-like-donald-trump-poll/_jcr_content/par/image.dynimg.1200.q75.jpg/v1551388533639/gallup+leadership+poll+full+graph+2019.jpg
Except for a brief moment in 2011, the US had the highest approval ratings of any world power between 2009 and 2016, when Barack Obama was President. Germany led in 2007, 2008, 2011 and 2017.

Russia has been on the upswing in recent years, rising from 22 percent in 2014 - when it invaded Ukraine - to 30 percent today.

Mr Trump's image in New Zealand is poor, but improving - he now has 19 percent approval, four points higher than a year ago. A whopping 69 percent disapprove. He's a bit more popular across the ditch, with 23 percent support in Australia, also up 4 percent.

Gallup interviewed about 134,000 people across the world come up with the latest results.

pritch

4th August 2019, 21:21

A second mass shooting on the same day. Ten reported dead including the shooter in Dayton, Ohio.
The thots and prayers don’t seem to be working.:innocent:

jasonu

5th August 2019, 03:29

Mr Trump's image in New Zealand is poor, but improving - he now has 19 percent approval, four points higher than a year ago. A whopping 69 percent disapprove. .

Do you think anyone really gives a fuck what a NZ poll says given the ones polled are likely a bunch of liberal media fed sheep? Certainly no one here does.

husaberg

5th August 2019, 08:57

Do you think anyone really gives a fuck what a NZ poll says given the ones polled are likely a bunch of liberal media fed sheep? Certainly no one here does.

The poll was conducted world wide including americant's it also included New Zealanders and funny enough people from all over the rest if the world. (it was a worldwide survey)

Gallup interviewed about 134,000 people across the world come up with the latest results.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/02/kiwis-really-don-t-like-donald-trump-poll.html

They mentioned the kiwi stat separate as it was a NZ publication the poll was mentioned in.
Listen to you claiming bias , as soon as you dont like a poll you throw a tanty it must have been tainted fake news blah blah..........
It must really chide when your Pres, is only as popular worldwide as a communist dictator and the same right wing dictator who helped get your commander and thief elected.

Europeans are more likely to trust Russia's Vladimir Putin and China's Xi Jinping to do the right thing regarding world affairs than US President Donald Trump, according to a survey released on Tuesday.
Meanwhile, a majority of respondents in most of the seven countries surveyed by the US-based Pew Research Centre said they trust Germany's Angela Merkel and France's Emmanuel Macron.
https://www.euronews.com/2019/02/12/french-germans-trust-putin-more-than-trump-survey-finds

Nine in ten French people have an unfavourable opinion of Donald Trump, according to a recent study. And that's even worse than their view of Putin.
The survey measured Europeans' opinions of world leaders and was carried out by Odoxa-Dentsu Consulting on behalf of France Info and Le Figaro.
While 86 percent of Europeans were found to have a negative opinion of Trump, some 90 percent of the French said the same thing.
This marked a nine-point increase from the same study that was carried out in January.
Some 87 percent found Trump to be more aggressive now than he was at the start of the year, while 81 percent said they found him to be dangerous and racist.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20171103/putin-more-popular-than-trump-at-least-with-the-french

Global survey: Vladimir Putin more popular than Donald Trump
If the world population had to choose between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump as their country’s leader, the majority would favour Russia’s president Vladimir Putin over the US president. Also, the dominant position of the USA as the world’s global leader seems to be no longer unquestionable. This is the result of a recent survey conducted by WIN, the worldwide independent network of market research. In the survey 53769 people in 55 countries around the globe were asked for their opinions on Trump, Putin, and the current world order.
Except in the USA, most of the regions of the world prefer Putin to Trump. As the exclusive German WIN member, Produkt + Markt conducted the survey in Germany. While 71% of the participants in Germany would choose neither one of the two presidents as their head of state, 22% of the German respondents would still opt for Vladimir Putin, but only 7% would choose Donald Trump.
Similar answers were given to a question on the form of the world order. 76% of German respondents prefer neither a world leadership by the US nor a joint global leadership by the US and Russia; 12% believe that the US and Russia should exercise global leadership together, while only 8% believe that the US – as arguably the most powerful state in the world – should continue to lead globally.
https://www.produktundmarkt.de/en/blog/global-survey-vladimir-putin-more-popular-than-donald-trump.htm

oldrider

5th August 2019, 13:40

It doesn't matter a stuff what the polls or people say twits like Trump etc are "appointed" by those that control them! - For their own benefit - certainly not ours! :rofl:

Laava

5th August 2019, 14:02

Thought this was an interesting comment from Rhianna, http://nzh.tw/12255675, of course it wouldn't have mattered who the Potus was...
Trump made the comment somewhere that they are taking steps re gun control but aren't doing enough. Are they doing anything at all?...

jasonu

5th August 2019, 14:46

The poll was conducted world wide including americant's it also included New Zealanders and funny enough people from all over the rest if the world. (it was a worldwide survey)

They mentioned the kiwi stat separate as it was a NZ publication the poll was mentioned in.
Listen to you claiming bias , as soon as you dont like a poll you throw a tanty it must have been tainted fake news blah blah..........
It must really chide when you Pres is only as popular worldwide as a communist dictator and the same right wing dictator who helped get your commander and thief elected.

https://www.euronews.com/2019/02/12/french-germans-trust-putin-more-than-trump-survey-finds

https://www.thelocal.fr/20171103/putin-more-popular-than-trump-at-least-with-the-french

https://www.produktundmarkt.de/en/blog/global-survey-vladimir-putin-more-popular-than-donald-trump.htm

Apparently English is not your first language.

pritch

5th August 2019, 14:55

Trump made the comment somewhere that they are taking steps re gun control but aren't doing enough. Are they doing anything at all?...

Well Trump undid the Obama law that was supposed to stop people with mental health issues buying guns. That's working out well.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

The Texas Lt Governor who considered that the problem with school shootings was that there were too many doors in schools, has now announced that the problem is that there is not enough prayer in schools. He also thinks more saluting the flag in schools will help. Seriously.

Other politicians have blamed video games. The fact that millions of kids in other countries watch the same games without shooting up the place apparently eludes them.

Ivanka Trump blamed white supremacists and the response from around the world was a massive, "Your father!"

Congress has passed a firearms law of some sort but it's held up in the Senate because Moscow Mitch McConnell won't let it proceed to a vote. Anyhoo I think the politicians have all gone home for the summer holidays now. So it's "thoughts and prayers" again.

This picture pretty much sums it up:

husaberg

5th August 2019, 16:31

Apparently English is not your first language.

Funny for three reasons.
Firstly, you clearly couldn't refute my points, nothing new there...........
Two, hassling my English, considering you lacked the comprehension skills to figure out it was a world wide poll.
Thirdly, hassling anyone's English, when you have, the vocabulary of a baby otter.
Oh well if you have no evidence to support you, i guess that's all you have.

oldrider

5th August 2019, 23:03

He should know? - :shifty: - https://twitter.com/letruthreign/status/1158228899274379264/photo/1 - :hitcher: - Thank you George? :niceone:

husaberg

6th August 2019, 10:15

Well Trump undid the Obama law that was supposed to stop people with mental health issues buying guns. That's working out well.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

The Texas Lt Governor who considered that the problem with school shootings was that there were too many doors in schools, has now announced that the problem is that there is not enough prayer in schools. He also thinks more saluting the flag in schools will help. Seriously.

Other politicians have blamed video games. The fact that millions of kids in other countries watch the same games without shooting up the place apparently eludes them.

Ivanka Trump blamed white supremacists and the response from around the world was a massive, "Your father!"

Congress has passed a firearms law of some sort but it's held up in the Senate because Moscow Mitch McConnell won't let it proceed to a vote. Anyhoo I think the politicians have all gone home for the summer holidays now. So it's "thoughts and prayers" again.

This picture pretty much sums it up:

Some simple facts

Changes in US mass shooting deaths associated with the 1994-2004 federal assault weapons ban: Analysis of open-source data
BACKGROUND:
A federal assault weapons ban has been proposed as a way to reduce mass shootings in the United States. The Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 made the manufacture and civilian use of a defined set of automatic and semiautomatic weapons and large capacity magazines illegal. The ban expired in 2004. The period from 1994 to 2004 serves as a single-arm pre-post observational study to assess the effectiveness of this policy intervention.
RESULTS:
Assault rifles accounted for 430 or 85.8% of the total 501 mass-shooting fatalities reported (95% confidence interval, 82.8-88.9) in 44 mass-shooting incidents. Mass shootings in the United States accounted for an increasing proportion of all firearm-related homicides
Mass-shooting fatalities were 70% less likely to occur during the federal ban period (relative rate, 0.30; 95% confidence interval, 0.22-0.39).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30188421

Sept. 18, 2015: In a campaign position paper published on his website Trump stated that "Gun and magazine bans are a total failure. That’s been proven every time it’s been tried," :scratch:

Feb. 28, 2017: Trump signed a bill into law rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to purchase guns. That Obama-era measure had included people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Feb. 21, 2018: During a listening session with teachers and students following the deadly Parkland, Fla. high school mass shooting now-president Trump said, “We’re going to be very strong on background checks. We’re going to be doing very strong background checks.”

Feb. 26, 2019: Nearly a year later, and two days before the House passed sweeping gun legislation that would require universal background checks for most gun purchases or transfers, Trump threatened a presidential veto on the legislation if it passed Congress.

pritch

6th August 2019, 14:48

The range of causes of the mass shootings being trotted out by US politicians is amazing. These people may be corrupt and some may be inbred imbeciles, but you can't say they aren't creative. Abortions have been named as a cause of the shootings, as have solo mums. Trans sexuals and drag queens too are responsible. It seems though that the Republican Party has circled the wagons around video games this time. Trump has already suggested some sort of a law change to cover video games. Anything but a law change covering assault weapons.

Recently I remarked on Trump's inability to read. Overnight he managed to read "Texas and Ohio" in great big letters on his prompter as "Toledo".

People are criticising Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke for dropping an F bomb during a TV interview. O'Rourke is likely upset, he's from El Paso. Twenty people killed and counting, but hey somebody said a rude word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwgHGeGxlus&frags=pl%2Cwn

husaberg

6th August 2019, 16:53

pritch

11th August 2019, 04:49

The BBC is reporting that jeffrey Epstein has been found dead in his cell.

Katman

11th August 2019, 09:09

How awfully convenient for a whole lot of people.

He must have been a very resourceful man to commit suicide while on suicide watch.

austingtir

11th August 2019, 10:24

How awfully convenient for a whole lot of people.

Me must have been a very resourceful man to commit suicide while on suicide watch.

As I said in the Epstein thread. Im over all this. They legit need to just start stringing people up on lamposts around DC and everywhere else.

Viking01

11th August 2019, 10:37

The BBC is reporting that jeffrey Epstein has been found dead in his cell.

No doubt a few may sleep more soundly now.

Personally, I'm waiting for the (posthumous) anonymous biography
"Hanging Out with Friends in High Places". Think it could be a best
seller, especially before the 2020 election.

austingtir

11th August 2019, 10:39

I like Mcafee's take on the whole thing.

"I was stunned by Epstein's suicide, though probably not as much as Epstein himself."

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1160204761045463040

More Mcafee gold:

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1159497375011835905

As with the "mass shootings" what we are witnessing is basically a free IQ test for anyone believing the "official story" on any of this stuff.......

pritch

11th August 2019, 12:56

"I was stunned by Epstein's suicide, though probably not as much as Epstein himself."

That was good.

Another one I saw, can't remember who, "Of all the hundreds of thousands of prisoners in the US prison system nobody was a higher risk of suicide or homicide than Epstein. Yet he is dead."

The right is blaming the Clintons. The left is pointing the finger at Trump/Barr. So far nobody has suggested Prince Andrew is responsible; although given time... :whistle:

There are a lot of theories as to what will happen to the court case. One lawyer has posted that the only person charged was Epstein, therefore the court case died with him.

austingtir

11th August 2019, 13:19

The right is blaming the Clintons. The left is pointing the finger at Trump/Barr. So far nobody has suggested Prince Andrew is responsible; although given time... :whistle:

The UK/Aus (alexander downer) was behind helping Obama spy on Trump the UK spy agencies and their own cronies have been behind alot of the goings on in the US imo.

The connections between Epstein, mossad, mi6, CIA, royalty and generally the elite are undeniable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipOYuWQe2Lc

Seems rather convenient to have a photographer right on hand to take pics of the stiff getting carted out.....

Alot of relieved elites around the world right now I suspect.... I see claims they are going to continue with the case though I think thats just trying to placate the masses, within a few weeks they will sweep it under the rug like everything else.... Nobody believes a word of anything surrounding this whole thing.

I believe Trump and co arent worried about this in the slightest if anything this has woken alot more people up to whats going on imo.

pritch

11th August 2019, 14:17

I spoke too soon about Prince Andrew. Judge Jeanine on Fox wants Andrew investigated by the FBI.

She was apparently very briefly a Judge a long time ago. She is a current crackpot though. It has been suggested, possibly unkindly, that she consumes a box of wine before going on air. That would certainly account for her demeanour sometimes.

Laava

11th August 2019, 16:59

As I said in the Epstein thread. Im over all this. They legit need to just start stringing people up on lamposts around DC and everywhere else.
Yeeee haw! Cletus gonna git a lynch mob!

austingtir

11th August 2019, 17:25

Yeeee haw! Cletus gonna git a lynch mob!

So how come this clown can get away with insults and I cant?

Calls me a CTist in the other thread when anyone with an IQ higher than a potato can see its looking more and more like fact with every passing hour.

husaberg

11th August 2019, 17:40

Yeeee haw! Cletus gonna git a lynch mob!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7qhVJIPfck

Laava

11th August 2019, 17:49

Calls me a CTist
Boo hoo, did I hurt your little feeling?

austingtir

11th August 2019, 18:05

Trump in 2015.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=s_ik0NtRodU

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBqSd2vXoAAojJm?format=jpg&name=large

husaberg

11th August 2019, 20:05

https://i.imgflip.com/jlqtc.jpg

oldrider

15th August 2019, 11:35

Google “Machine Learning Fairness” Whistleblower Goes Public, says: “burden lifted off of my soul” - Whole article:- https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/08/14/google-machine-learning-fairness-whistleblower-goes-public-says-burden-lifted-off-of-my-soul/ - :corn:

<iframe width="1008" height="567" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/g1VeElBAeas" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

pritch

16th August 2019, 13:00

Having already blown the budget, and with a recession looming entirely due to his illiterate meddling, his latest...

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/president-trump-wants-to-buy-greenland-report.html

The original link I used was to the Wall Street Journal article, but that's behind a paywall now so The New Yorker it is.

oldrider

16th August 2019, 13:15

Well they (USA) did buy Alaska off the Russians! :whistle:

jasonu

16th August 2019, 15:53

Viking01

16th August 2019, 16:43

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/u-s-states-deny-they-were-hacked-by-the-russians/

oldrider

16th August 2019, 19:07

We were warned about Trump more than 100 years ago:- :shifty: - https://twitter.com/FitzInfo/status/1162205409328820225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - Hidden in plain sight? - :rolleyes:

oldrider

16th August 2019, 19:20

See for yourself how wrong they are - https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/1027204516096233473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - The Protocols of Zion (1902) in Summary. - Never happened yet? - Yeah Right! :rolleyes:

husaberg

16th August 2019, 20:47

oldrider

16th August 2019, 21:36

Being in mind you cant claim not to know you are both inciting and spreading hate speach, when it has been pointed out to you on multiple occasions by multiple people that you are.
Nor can the platform you are posting them on say, they were unaware you were both spreading and inciting racial hate messages.
it would likely be now between 3-5 times you have attempted to post links to the protocols of zion now.

Thank you for the sage advice - moments like this I am at a loss to understand those who claim that you are stupid. :mellow:

husaberg

16th August 2019, 23:24

Thank you for the sage advice - moments like this I am at a loss to understand those who claim that you are stupid. :mellow:

I would much rather have a racist call me stupid, than be a stupid racist like you.

oldrider

16th August 2019, 23:50

I would much rather have a racist call me stupid, than be a stupid racist like you.

Well that's OK then, hope you feel better now with all that flushed out of your pent up system, nothing quite like free speech, is there? - :msn-wink:

Katman

17th August 2019, 03:58

Being in mind you cant claim not to know you are both inciting and spreading hate speach, when it has been pointed out to you on multiple occasions by multiple people that you are.
Nor can the platform you are posting them on say, they were unaware you were both spreading and inciting racial hate messages.
it would likely be now between 3-5 times you have attempted to post links to the protocols of zion now.
I'm sure if those who control this site agreed with your understanding of the definition of 'hate speech' they'd have done something about it by now. (I'm sure it's not like you haven't reported it every time you take offense at oldrider mentioning the Protocols).
Perhaps it's time you put away your hall monitor badge.

pritch

17th August 2019, 08:59

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/denmark-offers-to-buy-us

Viking01

17th August 2019, 09:38

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/denmark-offers-to-buy-us

Excellent find.

But I think that the Danes are sensible enough to know that might
be a little bit too ambitious. Besides, what would be the payoff ?

husaberg

17th August 2019, 11:50

I'm sure if those who control this site agreed with your understanding of the definition of 'hate speech' they'd have done something about it by now. (I'm sure it's not like you haven't reported it every time you take offense at oldrider mentioning the Protocols).
Perhaps it's time you put away your hall monitor badge.

Really, Because we all know thinking is not your strong suit. Best you not try and do that now.
Firstly if you were anywhere in touch with the sites, or the owners stance on conduct, Why do you spend so much time in the sin-bin?
Also i have not reported oldrider, every time he spreads racial hate messages, either through the posting of mien Kamph, the protocol of Zion hs endlingless love letters to Hitler or any other nazi supported literature, he posts on practically a daily basis.
Anyone who obsessively posts racial propaganda on a daily basis, and considers it a normal event is unhinged, the fact, you share his views and want to support him, is not a surprise, as you are an egg.

Maybe you should aquatint yourself with the site rules

Thread topics, posts and attachments must not contain:
graphic descriptions of sexual acts, violence, injury, suffering, racism, death, or obscenities
soliciting for any activity of racist nature

or the NZ law

Section 61 of the Human Rights Act provides that it shall be unlawful for anyone to publish or distribute threatening, abusive or insulting words likely to excite hostility or bring into contempt any group of persons who may be coming to or in New Zealand on the ground of the colour, race or ethnic origins of that group of persons.

Section 131 of the Human Rights Act deals with more extreme acts of offensive speech. It is a criminal offence to publish or use threatening, abusive or insulting words. .

[An example of this would be the desecration of Jewish graves, as has happened several times in recent New Zealand history. The desecration itself was illegal, the targeting of Jewish people turns the crime into an antisemitic hate crime.

jasonu

17th August 2019, 13:31

Really, Because we all know thinking is not your strong suit. Best you not try and do that now.
Firstly if you were anywhere in touch with the sites, or the owners stance on conduct, Why do you spend so much time in the sin-bin?
Also i have not reported oldrider, every time he spreads racial hate messages, either through the posting of mien Kamph, the protocol of Zion hs endlingless love letters to Hitler or any other nazi supported literature, he posts on practically a daily basis.
Anyone who obsessively posts racial propaganda on a daily basis, and considers it a normal event is unhinged, the fact, you share his views and want to support him, is not a surprise, as you are an egg.

Maybe you should aquatint yourself with the site rules

or the NZ law

The trouble with cunts like you is if anyone says anything even slightly negative about a particular person or race (IE not white people) you call it racist.

husaberg

17th August 2019, 13:42

The trouble with cunts like you is if anyone says anything even slightly negative about a particular person or race (IE not white people) you call it racist.

really, slightly negative is not 2000+ unsolicited racially motivated posts.
You lose your mind as soon as someone posts a joke about your presendkunt.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBh90VLXoAEOVRq.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqNcJxxAWK4

22 dead and he's cracking jokes and bragging. And Malaria is laughing!
We've had racist presidents before, corrupt presidents before and dumb president before, but never before has one president mastered all these traits like Donald Jackass Trump!.
To be fair Trump can't go to hell Satan has a restraining order

pritch

17th August 2019, 13:57

It's still a bit early for Youtube.

Margie Reckard was one of the victims of the El Paso Walmart gunman. Her husband, concerned that he alone may be at her funeral since neither of them had any relatives, invited the public.

The queue was half a mile long complete with a mariachi band, and the inside of the church was lined with flowers. Despite the insanity people can be kind.

jasonu

17th August 2019, 15:07

You lose you mind as soon as someone posts a joke about your presendkunt.
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I don't give a fuck what people say about trump. It's the been nowhere done nothing typical NZ small man liberal news fed ignorance behind it that bites.

husaberg

17th August 2019, 15:19

I don't give a fuck what people say about trump. It's the been nowhere done nothing typical NZ small man liberal news fed ignorance behind it that bites.
Your responses indicate You very clearly do care what people say about trump.
Its hilarious how Trump is often brought up in conversations about ignorance and small minded attitudes.

Gallup interviewed about 134,000 people across the world come up with the latest results.
Donald Trump's leadership is viewed around the world about as favourably as that of Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to a new poll.
In its latest world leadership poll, only 31 percent approve of Mr Trump's leadership, compared to 30 percent who back Mr Putin - whose administration is regularly criticised for curtailing free speech, rigging elections and imprisoning political opponents.
China has also overtaken the US in the world's eyes, with 34 percent approval. Leading the pack amongst the world's powers is Germany, with 39 percent approval.
Mr Trump's worst approval ratings came from a number of Muslim majority nations including the Palestinian Territories, Iran, Yemen, Pakistan and Turkey. Other countries where he's not viewed favourably include Russia, Sweden, Chile, Canada, and most of all Norway, where he has an 87 percent disapproval rating.
Kosovo and Albania are the only European countries that have a positive view of Mr Trump, and the Dominican Republic the only American nation. Germany is actually the most popular world power in the Americas, with 35 percent approval to the United States' 31.

https://i.imgur.com/49QzuE5.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgvlfbvUEAAumxM.jpg