The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Akzle]

Why "hardly planned or desired"?

It suits Israel perfectly.

boom !

[Akzle]

The loose collection of jihads that now form ISIS have been around a lot longer than Obama or Clinton - have a look here.

http://www.crethiplethi.com/the-historical-roots-and-stages-in-the-development-of-isis/islamic-countries/syria-islamic-countries/2015/

yes but they've only really started being mostly-directly funded by the us since barrack hussein.

[Akzle]

:psst:
https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-wiki-leak-email-found-showing-secret-memo-to-obama-from-isis/

[Virago]

around the throat.

with piano wire.

I suppose I must be one of those filthy capitalists.

I guess I should donate my Steinway Grand.

[yokel]

The irony is strong in this one.


http://youtu.be/CeB-WySojFY

[Ocean1]

Fortunately I don't have that belief... so it's eye wide open and lol@insanity time.

Aye, facts aren't your thing, are they.

Your beliefs are obviously very comforting though.

[Ocean1]

When you say 'charity' are you talking solely about money given for purely humanitarian causes or are you including money donated to institutions?

It's literally the giving of help to those in need. Does it matter if there's an intermediary?

[Katman]

It's literally the giving of help to those in need. Does it matter if there's an intermediary?

Fuck me, you really are fucking clueless.

[Ocean1]

Fuck me, you really are fucking clueless.


Disappointed in your own charitable efforts, dude?

Guess that's the price of having morals that preclude you from earning fuck all, eh?

[Katman]

Disappointed in your own charitable efforts, dude?

Not at all.

I guess that's one of the big differences between you and I.

[Ocean1]

Not at all.

I guess that's one of the big differences between you and I.

Aye, I'm definitely disappointed in you.

And you probably don't see yourself as a prize cunt.

[Katman]

And you probably don't see yourself as a prize cunt.

Well these days it does take a little effort.

But I'm glad the effort hasn't gone unnoticed.

[bogan]

Disappointed in your own charitable efforts, dude?

Guess that's the price of having morals that preclude you from earning fuck all, eh?

I think he has been frequenting some of the anti-charity echo chambers (there were some anti-charity ones that popped up a few years back and have since been discredited). Also the ones that don't understand charity is still subject to market dynamics. But lets face it, such echo chambers are just to assuage the guilt of those looking for excuses not to give...

[Katman]

I think he has been frequenting some of the anti-charity echo chambers (there were some anti-charity ones that popped up a few years back and have since been discredited). Also the ones that don't understand charity is still subject to market dynamics. But lets face it, such echo chambers are just to assuage the guilt of those looking for excuses not to give...

Are you drinking again?

[bogan]

Are you drinking again?

Please elaborate on why you dislike institutionary charitys. Let's see who's been 'drinking' when your justification turns out to be exactly as I described it... or not...

[Katman]

Please elaborate on why you dislike institutionary charitys. Let's see who's been 'drinking' when your justification turns out to be exactly as I described it... or not...

Fuck off you stupid cunt.

[bogan]

Fuck off you stupid cunt.

Hahahaha, I'll take that as a yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesye syesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesy esyesyesyesyesyes* :laugh:











*those are echos, just in case you didn't get that bit

[mashman]

Aye, facts aren't your thing, are they.

Your beliefs are obviously very comforting though.

I wasn't disputing that the rich have more disposable income to spend on charity.

So not sure how you have a clue what my beliefs are, but yeah, they are comforting.

[TheDemonLord]

my beliefs are, but yeah, they are comforting.

That, we never doubted....

[Katman]

I wasn't disputing that the rich have more disposable income to spend on charity.

Especially if they can gain a position of influence through their 'charitable' act.

[Katman]

If Warren Buffett gave 30 billion to provide clean fresh water to those in need in Africa no-one there would be going thirsty.

Instead he gave it to the Gates Foundation.

Stupid cunt.

[mashman]

Especially if they can gain a position of influence through their 'charitable' act.

Nah, that sort of stuff simply doesn't happen... there's too much goodness and integrity in their generous donations. Wonder what the charitable donation rebate is in the US?

[TheDemonLord]

If Warren Buffett gave 30 billion to provide clean fresh water to those in need in Africa no-one there would be going thirsty.

Instead he gave it to the Gates Foundation.

Stupid cunt.

Fucking hell, you've gone full Spastick.

[YellowDog]

If Warren Buffett gave 30 billion to provide clean fresh water to those in need in Africa no-one there would be going thirsty.

Instead he gave it to the Gates Foundation.

Stupid cunt.

Shudve been the Clinton Foundation aye!

[Katman]

Fucking hell, you've gone full Spastick.

Really? Are you struggling with the concept of hypothethicals now?

I could just as easily have suggested the 30 billion could have been spend on a landmine clearing programme instead of seeing a large proportion of it go to institutions that will no doubt one day turn out scholars who invent even more elaborate means of killing people.

(That's another hypothetical - in case you missed that).

[TheDemonLord]

Really? Are you struggling with the concept of hypothethicals now?

I could just as easily have suggested the 30 billion could have been spend on a landmine clearing programme instead of seeing a large proportion of it go to institutions that will no doubt one day turn out scholars who invent even more elaborate means of killing people.

(That's another hypothetical - in case you missed that).

The only thing I'm struggling with, is fathoming the depths of your delusional world view.

I'll put it simply:

Throwing money at the Symptoms doesn't fix the problems - it's why most charities aren't making any significant progress. Handing people food and medicine is nice and all, but actually addressing the root causes (such as poor sanitation, western infrastructure that is incompatible with the conditions found in the 3rd world, agricultural sectors that aren't resistant to adverse weather cycles) is what fixes the problems, it is what allows the society to build itself up.
the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation runs their charity much like a business: using proven strategies and methods to solve problems and investing wisely in innovative solutions to address the root cause of problems.

Why did Mr Buffet give his $30 Billion to them? Maybe because they represent the best option for actually turning that Money into a lasting and meaningful change, instead of just throwing it at the symptoms (like most Charities do)

[Katman]

Why did Mr Buffet give his $30 Billion to them? Maybe because they represent the best option for actually turning that Money into a lasting and meaningful change, instead of just throwing it at the symptoms (like most Charities do)

Well see, that all comes down to what Bill and Melinda consider to be 'meaningful change'.

Oh, to wield such power.

[TheDemonLord]

Well see, that all comes down to what Bill and Melinda consider to be 'meaningful change'.

Oh, to wield such power.

Yes, and thank fuck it's not paranoid delusional fuckwits like you who wield it.

In the meantime, Bill and Melinda are looking at things such as:

Erradicating Malaria (considering its one of the biggest drain on both medical and human resources in the 3rd world)
Waterless Toilets (so by improving sanitation, you reduce the amount of disease that is spread by infectious waste)
Increasing crop yield for sub-saharan farmers (moving them from subsistence farming, dependent on the weather to being able to sell a surplus, and give the next generation an education)

You know, things that address the root cause of some of the biggest problems faced.

[Katman]

Yes, and thank fuck it's not paranoid delusional fuckwits like you who wield it.

In the meantime, Bill and Melinda are looking at things such as:

Erradicating Malaria (considering its one of the biggest drain on both medical and human resources in the 3rd world)
Waterless Toilets (so by improving sanitation, you reduce the amount of disease that is spread by infectious waste)
Increasing crop yield for sub-saharan farmers (moving them from subsistence farming, dependent on the weather to being able to sell a surplus, and give the next generation an education)

You know, things that address the root cause of some of the biggest problems faced.

And if 100% of the 30 billion went towards purely humanitarian causes like that I'd be the first to celebrate.

It's the percentage that goes towards less than humanitarian causes that concern me.

[TheDemonLord]

And if 100% of the 30 billion went towards purely humanitarian causes like that I'd be the first to celebrate.

It's the percentage that goes towards less than humanitarian causes that concern me.

And who are you to decide what is and isn't purely humanitarian?

What percentage do you believe goes to less than humanitarian causes? Do you have any objective evidence to this statement?


Also - no you wouldn't celebrate, you'd find some batshit, delusional and crazy reason why it didn't in order to protect your warped views on reality - you'd then bitch about it on KB as proof of one (or all) of your conspiracies..

[Katman]

What percentage do you believe goes to less than humanitarian causes? Do you have any objective evidence to this statement?

Money that goes towards learning institutions has the potential to be corrupted.

Money that goes towards the pharmaceutical industry has the potential to be corrupted.

(And the influence that the donor then holds over the learning institutions is of no little concern either).

[TheDemonLord]

Money that goes towards learning institutions has the potential to be corrupted.

Money that goes towards the pharmaceutical industry has the potential to be corrupted.

(And the influence that the donor then holds over the learning institutions is of no little concern either).

So I asked


Do you have any objective evidence to this statement?

And the answer (as always) is no, you're full of shit as usual.

Oh and called it:


Also - no you wouldn't celebrate, you'd find some batshit, delusional and crazy reason why it didn't in order to protect your warped views on reality - you'd then bitch about it on KB as proof of one (or all) of your conspiracies..

[Katman]

So I asked



And the answer (as always) is no, you're full of shit as usual.

Oh and called it:

Hey, I'm just trying to explain to you how philanthropy can often be corrupted and how sometimes philanthropy can be practiced for reasons other than purely altruistic ones.

The fact that you seem intent on arguing against that concept suggests it's either you who has the delusional view of reality or that you simply like to argue for the sake of arguing.

[TheDemonLord]

Hey, I'm just trying to explain to you how philanthropy can often be corrupted and how sometimes philanthropy can be practiced for reasons other than purely altruistic ones.

No, you're trying to justify your beliefs - it's why you use vague words like 'often', 'sometimes', 'potential' - you don't have any hard evidence to back up the hate that you spew. It's why you are demonstrably full of shit (as usual).

And tbh - I'd rather 100 charities that actually get shit done for non-altruistic reasons than 1 charity that just addresses the symptoms and therefore perpetuates the problem for purely altruistic reason.


The fact that you seem intent on arguing against that concept suggests it's either you who has the delusional view of reality or that you simply like to argue for the sake of arguing.

No, I'm arguing against a delusional fuckwit who tries to smear everyone who has ever made a large profit as Evil people who can't possibly do any good in the world, to the point that when they are doing good in the world, it's all for nefarious reasons anyway.

[Katman]

No, you're trying to justify your beliefs - it's why you use vague words like 'often', 'sometimes', 'potential' - you don't have any hard evidence to back up the hate that you spew. It's why you are demonstrably full of shit (as usual).

And tbh - I'd rather 100 charities that actually get shit done for non-altruistic reasons than 1 charity that just addresses the symptoms and therefore perpetuates the problem for purely altruistic reason.



No, I'm arguing against a delusional fuckwit who tries to smear everyone who has ever made a large profit as Evil people who can't possibly do any good in the world, to the point that when they are doing good in the world, it's all for nefarious reasons anyway.

Dude seriously, enough with the autistic tantrums.

[TheDemonLord]

Dude seriously, enough with the autistic tantrums.

So, you've scraped the bottom of your conspiracy barrel, found it to be as empty as your intellect and have to resort to insults.

It's nice to see you being as vacuous as ever.

[Ocean1]

So, you've scraped the bottom of your conspiracy barrel, found it to be as empty as your intellect and have to resort to insults.

It's nice to see you being as vacuous as ever.

Took you long enough, I usually manage that in one post, two at most.

[Ocean1]

I wasn't disputing that the rich have more disposable income to spend on charity.

So not sure how you have a clue what my beliefs are, but yeah, they are comforting.

Your "beliefs" are so far divorced from reality that nobody would be surprised if you denied even that obvious fact.


Nah, that sort of stuff simply doesn't happen... there's too much goodness and integrity in their generous donations. Wonder what the charitable donation rebate is in the US?

Doesn't stop you spouting unsubstantiated crap every chance you get though.

See if you can find out how much Mark made out of tax rorts associated with this obviously dodgy deal: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/84531954/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-and-wife-priscilla-chan-pledge-us3-billion-to-end-disease

[Katman]

So, you've scraped the bottom of your conspiracy barrel, found it to be as empty as your intellect and have to resort to insults.

Oh dear. :facepalm:


......you don't have any hard evidence to back up the hate that you spew. It's why you are demonstrably full of shit (as usual).

No, I'm arguing against a delusional fuckwit.....

[TheDemonLord]

Oh dear. :facepalm:

Yes, those are objective statements based on the evidence of your posts.

[Katman]

Yes, those are objective statements based on the evidence of your posts.

So is post #1285.

[Banditbandit]

Yes, those are objective statements based on the evidence of your posts.

There re no such things as 'objective statements'. Everything, and I mean everything, is said from some ideological position ...

It's just that some ideologies rely on making "objective statements" as a way to back up those statements, as it were. Claiming objectivity is one move in the argument, but it is never a valid one.

[Banditbandit]

Now someone is going to come along and say that "The sky is blue" is an objective statement.

But I would say the sky is Kahurangi, as it is only 'blue' within the English-speaking world, with all its worldviews and positions.

And I would ask you what power you are trying to exercise by making that statement, thereby drawing out your lack of objectivity.

[TheDemonLord]

There re no such things as 'objective statements'. Everything, and I mean everything, is said from some ideological position ...

It's just that some ideologies rely on making "objective statements" as a way to back up those statements, as it were. Claiming objectivity is one move in the argument, but it is never a valid one.

Whilst I'll acknowledge the partial truth of what you say, there comes a point at which any ideological subjectivity is so minuscule that it is rendered moot. Where that point is, I'm sure you and I could argue that till the Cows come home to roost.

I'd start with something like A is the first letter of the english alphabet. Sure there is some subjectivity, but it is miniscule

[TheDemonLord]

So is post #1285.

No, it's just the ramblings of a delusional zealot who can't face reality.

[mashman]

Your "beliefs" are so far divorced from reality that nobody would be surprised if you denied even that obvious fact.

Doesn't stop you spouting unsubstantiated crap every chance you get though.

See if you can find out how much Mark made out of tax rorts associated with this obviously dodgy deal: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/84531954/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-and-wife-priscilla-chan-pledge-us3-billion-to-end-disease

Oh, ouch, that one really stung... oh wait on, actually that was just wind. :rofl:@reality.

Yup, I've never heard anyone pledge a small fortune to help end disease etc... before. I'm sure his money will work though.

[mashman]

Now someone is going to come along and say that "The sky is blue" is an objective statement.

But I would say the sky is Kahurangi, as it is only 'blue' within the English-speaking world, with all its worldviews and positions.

And I would ask you what power you are trying to exercise by making that statement, thereby drawing out your lack of objectivity.

Wass da Maori werd for translucent ;)

[yokel]

Now someone is going to come along and say that "The sky is blue" is an objective statement.

But I would say the sky is Kahurangi, as it is only 'blue' within the English-speaking world, with all its worldviews and positions.

And I would ask you what power you are trying to exercise by making that statement, thereby drawing out your lack of objectivity.

What a load of fucking gibberish.

[Brian d marge]

Now someone is going to come along and say that "The sky is blue" is an objective statement.

But I would say the sky is Kahurangi, as it is only 'blue' within the English-speaking world, with all its worldviews and positions.

And I would ask you what power you are trying to exercise by making that statement, thereby drawing out your lack of objectivity.

the word blue is relatively new , the romans called the sky " bronze"

of top of head

[yokel]

Saying the sky is blue is sexist and not a fair generalisation.
As the sky can be all the colours of the rainbow.

[bogan]

And the answer (as always) is no, you're full of shit as usual.

Oh and called it:

Yeh, but I called that already, so get in line cunt...

[Ocean1]

Now someone is going to come along and say that "The sky is blue" is an objective statement.

But I would say the sky is Kahurangi, as it is only 'blue' within the English-speaking world, with all its worldviews and positions.

And I would ask you what power you are trying to exercise by making that statement, thereby drawing out your lack of objectivity.

You do talk some shite, y'know.

[Ocean1]

Yup, I've never heard anyone pledge a small fortune to help end disease etc... before. I'm sure his money will work though.

That's cause you're ignorant.

And because you're ignorant you also won't know that his money will work infinitely better than whatever you've ever contributed.

[mashman]

That's cause you're ignorant.

And because you're ignorant you also won't know that his money will work infinitely better than whatever you've ever contributed.

Oh noes, more stingz, boohoo, boohoo.

[yokel]

Pep's on internet forum redit get the dirt on Hillary.


http://youtu.be/xwFNgGJpJvk

Crooked Hillary, even her eyes are crooked.
I've seen this before while she's having her seizures.


http://youtu.be/eiR1QR0E-JA

[oldrider]

Interesting comments on Syria situation! http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-u-s-attack-syrian-aid-convoy-just-to-blame-putin-and-assad/5546985 Who needs enemies with friends like the USA? :eek:

[YellowDog]

Interesting comments on Syria situation! http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-u-s-attack-syrian-aid-convoy-just-to-blame-putin-and-assad/5546985 Who needs enemies with friends like the USA? :eek:

Friends whom help themselves and do as they please without any discussion :o

[Brian d marge]

Friends whom help themselves and do as they please without any discussion :o

most governments or people in positions of power ...... one would think

[Banditbandit]

Interesting comments on Syria situation! http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-u-s-attack-syrian-aid-convoy-just-to-blame-putin-and-assad/5546985 Who needs enemies with friends like the USA? :eek:

Yeah .. a really non-biased website that one .. Tui Billboard anyone?

[Katman]

Yeah .. a really non-biased website that one .. Tui Billboard anyone?

Really?

So what websites would you suggest as unbiased?

[Banditbandit]

Really?

So what websites would you suggest as unbiased?

None of them of course. That one appears to be non-biased but it is, in reality, a propaganda site. I wasn't so much suggesting that it might be better to look at an unbiased site - rather that this site was especially biased ..

[Katman]

None of them of course. That one appears to be non-biased but it is, in reality, a propaganda site. I wasn't so much suggesting that it might be better to look at an unbiased site - rather that this site was especially biased ..

So what makes you consider it to be biased?

[jasonu]

Really?

So what websites would you suggest as unbiased?

KiwiBiker:devil2:

[Brian d marge]

So what makes you consider it to be biased?
Da BBC bro ..

sent for a divine source

[oldrider]

None of them of course. That one appears to be non-biased but it is, in reality, a propaganda site. I wasn't so much suggesting that it might be better to look at an unbiased site - rather that this site was especially biased ..

Are you suggesting we should all go to a Honda shop to get the good reviews about Triumph?

Well you don't expect to get anything other than the official Western blab if you don't seek out out a little opposition bias surely!

I.E. You wont read this sort of opinion on MSM sites will you? http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-why-washington-is-determined-to-oust-assad-even-if-it-means-supporting-the-terrorists/5547337 gotta get a little balance from somewhere! :corn:

Somewhere in between all this propaganda is the truth - reading one side only wont bring it out that is for sure!

[TheDemonLord]

Are you suggesting we should all go to a Honda shop to get the good reviews about Triumph?

Well you don't expect to get anything other than the official Western blab if you don't seek out out a little opposition bias surely!

I.E. You wont read this sort of opinion on MSM sites will you? http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-why-washington-is-determined-to-oust-assad-even-if-it-means-supporting-the-terrorists/5547337 gotta get a little balance from somewhere! :corn:

Somewhere in between all this propaganda is the truth - reading one side only wont bring it out that is for sure!

Whilst you wouldn't get a balanced review from the Honda shop, You would get an even LESS balanced review from "Mothers against 2 wheeled Death Machines". 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Which is kinda Bandit's point....

[Katman]

I'd still be interested to know what it is about that website that makes BB consider it to be biased.

Is it because it doesn't tell any good stories about America's Middle East policies?

Maybe that's just down to the fact that there is nothing good about America's Middle East policies.

[oldrider]

Donald Trumps first loyalty lays right here - go figure - heads I win tails you lose: http://www.globalresearch.ca/donald-trumps-aipac-speech-i-love-israel/5516675?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles America first? :scratch: How so?

[YellowDog]

Looks like it is all but over:

EXPERT PREDICTS (http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/an-expert-who-has-correctly-predicted-us-elections-for-decades-says-trump-will-win/ar-BBwyB2B?li=BBv6TfA&ocid=spartandhp)

[husaberg]

Jane Goodall PhD ethology.
Kyoto Prize (1990)
Hubbard Medal (1995)
Tyler Prize for Environmental Achievement (1997)
DBE (2004)
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/trumps-behavior-similar-to-male-chimpanzee-says-jane-goodall/ar-BBwiuX9?ocid=spartandhp

Donald Trump’s antics remind famed anthropologist Jane Goodall of the primates she spent decades studying in the wild.
“In many ways the performances of Donald Trump remind me of male chimpanzees
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBwkapA.img?h=470&w=728&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=473&y=465

[oldrider]

Looks like it is all but over:

EXPERT PREDICTS (http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/an-expert-who-has-correctly-predicted-us-elections-for-decades-says-trump-will-win/ar-BBwyB2B?li=BBv6TfA&ocid=spartandhp)

Whoever wins America and the world loses - time will reveal all! :kick:

[Brian d marge]

America is in the toilet ... The venecian mafia or the Chinese

Either way it ...won't end well ..

It can't ..as the system is at its core fundamentally flawed

In the most basic way

sent for a divine source

[YellowDog]

America is in the toilet ... The venecian mafia or the Chinese

Either way it ...won't end well ..

It can't ..as the system is at its core fundamentally flawed

In the most basic way

sent for a divine source

In my view, that's what will finish Clinton.

The US passed the unrecoverable GDP to debt ratio very many moons ago. :shit:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

[oldrider]

Who is screwing who for who and who hasn't paid? http://www.globalresearch.ca/destroying-countries-libya-syria-and-hillary-clintons-explosive-emails/5547637 Hillary is not the good news fairy that the world needs. :oi-grr:

[Brian d marge]

In my view, that's what will finish Clinton.

The US passed the unrecoverable GDP to debt ratio very many moons ago. :shit:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Its so fundamental it applies to ALL currency systems , ALL .

all a bank can do is LEND new currency , into existence , and as soon as that happens ..ya fked

So if the debt is fraudulent , then it doesn’t need to be paid back as the contract is null and void .

imho

[YellowDog]

Its so fundamental it applies to ALL currency systems , ALL .

all a bank can do is LEND new currency , into existence , and as soon as that happens ..ya fked

So if the debt is fraudulent , then it doesn’t need to be paid back as the contract is null and void .

imho

Look on the bright side: a spin off of governemnts having to manage Gazillions of dollars of debt, is that interest rates cannot ever go back up again, 'cos otherwise said arseholes wouldn't be able to survive and the house of cards would come crashing down :yes:

[Brian d marge]

Look on the bright side: a spin off of governemnts having to manage Gazillions of dollars of debt, is that interest rates cannot ever go back up again, 'cos otherwise said arseholes wouldn't be able to survive and the house of cards would come crashing down :yes:
Hahahaa absolutely
Well said

Oh well we will just have to fight the Germans again

Now where's that recipe for woolton pie ... already have a stack of Vera Lynn's ...



sent for a divine source

[oldrider]

Latest comments from the American circus:

A Turning Point in the US Presidential Campaign. What Happened?http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/09/25/turning-point-in-us-presidential-campaign-what-happened.html

Best be watching closely the goings on in Syria - when this carnival is over that's where the focus should be! (WW3?) :rolleyes: America? :doh:

[Brian d marge]

Latest comments from the American circus:

A Turning Point in the US Presidential Campaign. What Happened?http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/09/25/turning-point-in-us-presidential-campaign-what-happened.html

Best be watching closely the goings on in Syria - when this carnival is over that's where the focus should be! (WW3?) :rolleyes: America? :doh:
Again absolutely, Assad's interview was good ...quote how could it be an accident...it took an hour ...hahaha

Then we had the false flag bomb in hamerica to take the real headline off the front page that it was America that is bomb happy in Syria ..
As for the no fly Zone , of course the want that ..then you can move troops in ..safely

Why the fk doesn't Russia just build Washington , or wall st and be done with it ....

Unless the real power is elsewhere and they know it.
.

sent for a divine source

[oldrider]

I guess it's not for the want of trying!

Washington Tries to Break BRICS. Rape of Brazil Begins, on Behalf of Wall Street… http://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-tries-to-break-brics-rape-of-brazil-begins-on-behalf-of-wall-street/5547763 :blip:

Trouble is (thanks to MSM etc) most people think USA are still the good guys! :o

[Brian d marge]

I guess it's not for the want of trying!

Washington Tries to Break BRICS. Rape of Brazil Begins, on Behalf of Wall Street… http://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-tries-to-break-brics-rape-of-brazil-begins-on-behalf-of-wall-street/5547763 :blip:

Trouble is (thanks to MSM etc) most people think USA are still the good guys! :o
Inverted truth , now one wonders , who specializes in inverted truth

Albert .....are you there Albert.......

sent for a divine source

[yokel]

When Trump kicks arse in the debate, expect a market stumble to scare the sheeps.

http://youtu.be/MIwK_CX7aYg

[Katman]

For anyone interested, here is a site offering live streaming of the debate - set to kick off in 5 1/2 hours.

http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016/09/live-stream-watch-first-clinton-trump-presidential-debate-tonight/

[TheDemonLord]

For anyone interested, here is a site offering live streaming of the debate - set to kick off in 5 1/2 hours.

http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016/09/live-stream-watch-first-clinton-trump-presidential-debate-tonight/

Might watch that - will be interesting to listen to how they handle debate.

[jasonu]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-and-trump-to-meet-on-debate-stage-virtually-tied-in-national-polls/ar-BBwEGxD?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=EIE9HP

Apparently it is a dead heat according to polls.

[oldrider]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-and-trump-to-meet-on-debate-stage-virtually-tied-in-national-polls/ar-BBwEGxD?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=EIE9HP

Apparently it is a dead heat according to polls.

Every election where ever the media always say the same thing - it is their want to pretend that "they" control the public thinking! - Yeah right! :facepalm:

[TheDemonLord]

For anyone interested, here is a site offering live streaming of the debate - set to kick off in 5 1/2 hours.

http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016/09/live-stream-watch-first-clinton-trump-presidential-debate-tonight/

Hilary and Trump talking about Hacking...

Funniest.
Shit.
Ever.

[Brian d marge]

BBC reports Trump losing other media report Trump winning
The BBC were spot on in their analysis of brexit ,,Not

Markets are worried if Trump wins that's true ...

Either way
Israel wins




sent for a divine source

[TheDemonLord]

BBC reports Trump losing other media report Trump winning
The BBC were spot on in their analysis of brexit ,,Not

Markets are worried if Trump wins that's true ...

Either way
Israel wins




sent for a divine source

IMO it's impossible to tell who won or not because the Moderator did such a shit job of keeping candidates to time, limiting interruptions and fact checking.

Both Candidates were also a load of Hot Air.

[Banditbandit]

Wass da Maori werd for translucent ;)

whakatīaho

[YellowDog]

Most say that Trump won the first 15 minutes only. The remainder was all Clinton.

What they are forgetting is that 90% of voters have an attention span of less than 15 minutes QED.

[Brian d marge]

IMO it's impossible to tell who won or not because the Moderator did such a shit job of keeping candidates to time, limiting interruptions and fact checking.

Both Candidates were also a load of Hot Air.
Israel wins no matter.. whom

sent for a divine source

[oldrider]

Israel wins no matter.. whom

sent for a divine source

Exactly! :corn:

[yokel]

Watched first half of the debate, Trump had her over a barrel even though he went very easy on her.
Of course the MSM have declared her the winner, just because of vagina I guess.

[Stylo]

Watched first half of the debate, Trump had her over a barrel even though he went very easy on her.
Of course the MSM have declared her the winner, just because of vagina I guess.

Thanks for that yokel.

[Brian d marge]

Watched first half of the debate, Trump had her over a barrel even though he went very easy on her.
Of course the MSM have declared her the winner, just because of vagina I guess.

Why is that I wonder, dirty teresa may , Hitlary Rob em clinton , even the horses rear end running for the UN ....

why the push for women in power ...????

[jasonu]

Watched first half of the debate, Trump had her over a barrel even though he went very easy on her.
Of course the MSM have declared her the winner, just because of vagina I guess.


Thanks for that yokel.

it's true. You should have seen the after show. They interviewed Obananas 2008-2012 campaign manager who now works for HC and spent the rest of the time bagging Trump. Biased media, fuck yeah!!!

[Katman]

Oh dear, how unfortunate.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch7qwJBUgAE5z-6.jpg

[TheDemonLord]

Oh dear, how unfortunate.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch7qwJBUgAE5z-6.jpg

Why Unfortunate?

She's clearly working on her next policy :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Katman]

Perhaps she's just giving Bill something to aim for.

[TheDemonLord]

Perhaps she's just giving Bill something to aim for.

I don't think so, I can't see an Intern or secretary anywhere in that picture....

[yokel]

it's true. You should have seen the after show. They interviewed Obananas 2008-2012 campaign manager who now works for HC and spent the rest of the time bagging Trump. Biased media, fuck yeah!!!

Well the news on the radio at work told me that Trump did OK on the first 20 minutes but after that Hillary was beating Trump.

So I've watch the whole dam thing.
She had next to nothing, no impact at all.

I guess the Orwellian media thinks most people only watched the first 20 minutes.

[husaberg]

Well the news on the radio at work told me that Trump did OK on the first 20 minutes but after that Hillary was beating Trump.

So I've watch the whole dam thing.
She had next to nothing, no impact at all.

I guess the Orwellian media thinks most people only watched the first 20 minutes.

So you think hes in with a sniff

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-defective-mic-microphone-debate-hillary-clinton-sniffles-sniffing-a7332126.html
Wow more conspiracies than you can shake a sniff at.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zGpcbWqGE0

[pete376403]

There is a transcript of the show with fact-checking comments - Clinton, even if her style is a bit flat, was right most of the time. trumps stream-of -consciousness rant was mostly wrong, even denying statements he himself made http://www.npr.org/2016/09/26/495115346/fact-check-first-presidential-debate

[yokel]

So you think hes in with a sniff

If I was not made aware of this sniff I most likely would've not have noticed.

Funny how some nose breathing is a big deal to the Orwell media.

The irony award goes to Hillary.
Especially when takling about (not) talking responsibility for deliberately delleting emails and cyber security.

If she took responsibly for her email scandal she would not be running for president.
Or better yet be in jail.

[yokel]

There is a transcript of the show with fact-checking comments - Clinton, even if her style is a bit flat, was right most of the time. trumps stream-of -consciousness rant was mostly wrong, even denying statements he himself made http://www.npr.org/2016/09/26/495115346/fact-check-first-presidential-debate

And who's fact checking the fact omitting fact checkers??

[husaberg]

If I was not made aware of this sniff I most likely would've not have noticed.

Funny how some nose breathing is a big deal to the Orwell media.

The irony award goes to Hillary.
Especially when takling about (not) talking responsibility for deliberately delleting emails and cyber security.

If she took responsibly for her email scandal she would not be running for president.
Or better yet be in jail.

Answer me this, why is trump fighting so hard to not have his divorce recorde released?

[yokel]

Answer me this, why is trump fighting so hard to not have his divorce recorde released?

First I've heard, and is really quite trivial shit.

Much like Trump's sniffing.

[Brian d marge]

Side show ...

sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

First I've heard, and is really quite trivial shit.

Much like Trump's sniffing.

Really? she accused him of sexual assult, where you unaware of that or just consider that a married man right.

The filing notes that a 1993 biography of Trump reported that Ivana Trump told friends that her husband had "raped" her in 1989 during a fit of rage
or are you going to tell me that he shouldn't have to release the papers as it personal

[yokel]

Really? she accused him of sexual assult, where you unaware of that or just consider that a married man right.

or are you going to tell me that he shouldn't have to release the papers as it personal

Perhaps you should have that rape is bad conversation with Bill Clinton.

You really love petty shit don't you.

[husaberg]

Perhaps you should have that rape is bad conversation with Bill Clinton.

You really love petty shit don't you.

You mean like someones personal emails?


Trump has made an issue of "the marital relationship between Ms. Clinton and her husband, and criticized Ms. Clinton as having attacked women who came forward and claimed to have had sexual relations with President Clinton."


The American public has a right to know if Ivana Trump really did accuse her husband of raping her during their 1990 divorce proceedings, two news outlets argued Thursday when they asked a state court to take the unusual step of unsealing Donald Trump's matrimonial file.
Trump aide Michael Cohen has confirmed its existence but brushed it aside by disputing whether a spouse can even rape a wife.


Ps most don't view rape as being minor petty stuff, but you sure yokel that up.

[yokel]

You mean like someones personal emails?
Ps most don't view rape as being minor petty stuff, but you sure yokel that up.

They were not personal emails you dumb cunt.

It was a divorce, women say crazy shit, I don't fucking care.

[husaberg]

They were not personal emails you dumb cunt.

It was a divorce, women say crazy shit, I don't fucking care.

Funny all the emails that were not released by clinton were deemed by her to be private dipshit.
they weee even sent from her own private email server.
Its very funny what you consider trivial. Rape etc.

[yokel]

Funny all the emails that were not released by clinton were deemed by her to be private dipshit.
they weee even sent from her own private email server.
Its very funny what you consider trivial. Rape etc.

Oh they were deemed by her to be private??
Well that must be true ??

Fuck you're dumb.
They were state emails that she had on her private server.

You are so out of touch with reality its just fucking sad.

[husaberg]

Oh they were deemed by her to be private??
Well that must be true ??

Fuck you're dumb.
They were state emails that she had on her private server.

You are so out of touch with reality its just fucking sad.
She had released those, the major fuss was over what she deemed private.
So you yokeled up again
So why does trump not have to realse his divorce papers that say he raped someone? or are they private?

[yokel]

She had released those, the major fuss was over what she deemed private.
So you yokeled up again
So why does trump not have to realse his divorce papers that say he raped someone? or are they private?

Maybe he 'deemed' that it didn't happen??

You are truly a dumb cunt.

[husaberg]

Maybe he 'deemed' that it didn't happen??

You are truly a dumb cunt.

Really he if deemed it never happened then it would be in the divorce proceeding then he would be totally exonerated then , so ergo using that logic what does he have to hide then.
Yet the issue is hes fighting tooth and nail to not have it released.
So you yokeled up the logic again.

[yokel]

Really he if deemed it never happened then it would be in the divorce proceeding then he would be totally exonerated then , so ergo using that logic what does he have to hide then.
Yet the issue is hes fighting tooth and nail to not have it released.
So you yokeled up the logic again.

Why have 5 of Hillary's aids taken the 5th amendment you doppey cunt?

[husaberg]

Why have 5 of Hillary's aids taken the 5th amendment you doppey cunt?

Because they are allowed to, its their right. Its in incase you missed it in the consitution. Thats why its called the 5th amendment.
Are you saying trump is allowed more rights than they are?
Her aids are not hillary.
PS nice attempt to change the subject, how are you getting on with the answers to the quesions you have avoided.

[pete376403]

When the Bush administration was discovered to have erased millions of emails illegally sent by 22 administration officials through private, RNC-owned accounts, in order to thwart an investigation into the politically motivated firing of eight US attorneys, just one talk show covered it that Sunday.

When Mitt Romney wiped servers, sold government hard drives to his closest aides and spent $100,000 in taxpayer money to destroy his administration’s emails, it was barely an issue.

When Hillary Clinton asked Colin Powell how he managed to use a Blackberry while serving as Secretary of State, he replied by detailing his method of intentionally bypassing federal record-keeping laws:

"I didn’t have a Blackberry. What I did do was have a personal computer that was hooked up to a private phone line (sounds ancient.) So I could communicate with a wide range of friends directly without it going through the State Department servers. I even used it to do business with some foreign leaders and some of the senior folks in the Department on their personal email accounts. I did the same thing on the road in hotels.
... There is a real danger. If it is public that you have a BlackBerry and it it [sic] government and you are using it, government or not, to do business, it may become an official record and subject to the law."


Yet the fact that Hillary Clinton emailed through a private server and didn’t use it to cover anything up is somehow the defining issue of her campaign. “My God,” people cry, “anyone else would be in jail!”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-womack/stop-pretending-you-dont-_b_12191766.html

[husaberg]

First debate Trump
lied about the loan his father once gave him.http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check/2016/09/clinton-is-right-about-trumps-very-small-14-million-loan-228709
lied about his company’s bankruptcies.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/trump-claims-he-runs-his-businesses-cautiously-we-dont-really-know/
lied about his federal financial-disclosure forms.http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/07/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-his-financial-disclosures-more-m/
lied about his endorsements.
lied about “stop and frisk.”
lied about “birtherism.”
lied about New York.
lied about Michigan and Ohio.
lied about Palm Beach, Fla.
lied about Janet Yellen and the Federal Reserve.
lied about the trade deficit.
lied about Hillary Clinton’s tax plan.
lied about her child-care plan.
lied about China devaluing its currency.
lied about Mexico having the world’s largest factories
lied about the United States’s nuclear arsenal.
lied about NATO’s budget.
lied about NATO’s terrorism policy
lied about ISIS.
lied about his past position on the Iraq War.
lied about his past position on the national debt.
lied about his past position on climate change.
lied about calling pregnancy an “inconvenience” for employers.
lied about calling women “pigs.”
lied about calling women “dogs.”
lied about calling women “slobs.”

Can't be bothered with the rest of the links.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/opinion/campaign-stops/the-lies-trump-told.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/24/us/elections/donald-trump-statements.html?_r=0

[Brian d marge]

When the Bush administration was discovered to have erased millions of emails illegally sent by 22 administration officials through private, RNC-owned accounts, in order to thwart an investigation into the politically motivated firing of eight US attorneys, just one talk show covered it that Sunday.

When Mitt Romney wiped servers, sold government hard drives to his closest aides and spent $100,000 in taxpayer money to destroy his administration’s emails, it was barely an issue.

When Hillary Clinton asked Colin Powell how he managed to use a Blackberry while serving as Secretary of State, he replied by detailing his method of intentionally bypassing federal record-keeping laws:

"I didn’t have a Blackberry. What I did do was have a personal computer that was hooked up to a private phone line (sounds ancient.) So I could communicate with a wide range of friends directly without it going through the State Department servers. I even used it to do business with some foreign leaders and some of the senior folks in the Department on their personal email accounts. I did the same thing on the road in hotels.
... There is a real danger. If it is public that you have a BlackBerry and it it [sic] government and you are using it, government or not, to do business, it may become an official record and subject to the law."


Yet the fact that Hillary Clinton emailed through a private server and didn’t use it to cover anything up is somehow the defining issue of her campaign. “My God,” people cry, “anyone else would be in jail!”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-womack/stop-pretending-you-dont-_b_12191766.html
And yet if I'm a few km per hour over they slap me with a fine

And if I refuse to pay me taxes or part of me taxes ..because they waste it ... Watch how quickly I pass go and land in jail...

sent for a divine source

[Brian d marge]

First debate Trump
lied about the loan his father once gave him.http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check/2016/09/clinton-is-right-about-trumps-very-small-14-million-loan-228709
lied about his company’s bankruptcies.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/trump-claims-he-runs-his-businesses-cautiously-we-dont-really-know/
lied about his federal financial-disclosure forms.http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/07/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-his-financial-disclosures-more-m/
lied about his endorsements.
lied about “stop and frisk.”
lied about “birtherism.”
lied about New York.
lied about Michigan and Ohio.
lied about Palm Beach, Fla.
lied about Janet Yellen and the Federal Reserve.
lied about the trade deficit.
lied about Hillary Clinton’s tax plan.
lied about her child-care plan.
lied about China devaluing its currency.
lied about Mexico having the world’s largest factories
lied about the United States’s nuclear arsenal.
lied about NATO’s budget.
lied about NATO’s terrorism policy
lied about ISIS.
lied about his past position on the Iraq War.
lied about his past position on the national debt.
lied about his past position on climate change.
lied about calling pregnancy an “inconvenience” for employers.
lied about calling women “pigs.”
lied about calling women “dogs.”
lied about calling women “slobs.”

Can't be bothered with the rest of the links.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/opinion/campaign-stops/the-lies-trump-told.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/24/us/elections/donald-trump-statements.html?_r=0
Looks like the perfect politician to me
He hasn't killed anyone though ...the Clinton's are up to 63 ,last count I think..

sent for a divine source

[Voltaire]

Its nearly as exciting as the Auckland Mayoral elections....Phil Goff or someone else you never heard of.

Phil Goff should say things like " Going to build a wall at Pokeno and get Hamilton to pay for it"

" Improving Aucklands traffic woes won't cost the ratepayer a cent"

and start the hand waving and finger pointing.

others will just have to stand there with smug look on face.

[jasonu]

And who's fact checking the fact omitting fact checkers??

Certainly not the media.

[jasonu]

Answer me this, why is trump fighting so hard to not have his divorce recorde released?

First I have heard of this and really who cares?
Probably similar to the HC camp digging up something he said to Miss Universe 20 odd years ago, petty and reaching.

[YellowDog]

First I have heard of this and really who cares?
Probably similar to the HC camp digging up something he said to Miss Universe 20 odd years ago, petty and reaching.

I suspect that the fact the records reveal that the reason for divorce, was that he was banging a younger bimbo, will affect his credibility.

Didn't do Bill Clinton any harm :no:

[jasonu]

I suspect that the fact the records reveal that the reason for divorce, was that he was banging a younger bimbo, will affect his credibility.

Didn't do Bill Clinton any harm :no:

I doubt it. It was waaaaaaay back in 1992 and it is well known Ivanna was a money hungry miserable old shrew.
As I said before this is the first time I have seen it mentioned in relation to this election, I don't think anyone except Husa gives a shit.

[Katman]

I don't think anyone except Husa gives a shit.

Dirt digging appears to give meaning to his life.

[Banditbandit]

I suspect that the fact the records reveal that the reason for divorce, was that he was banging a younger bimbo, will affect his credibility.

Didn't do Bill Clinton any harm :no:


No it won't .. a friend in America said the general reaction to Bill bonking Monica was "If people likev that can't bonk women, then there's no hope for the rest of us ..."

Many of Trump's supporters will believe that proves he's a real man ..

[YellowDog]

No it won't .. a friend in America said the general reaction to Bill bonking Monica was "If people likev that can't bonk women, then there's no hope for the rest of us ..."

Many of Trump's supporters will believe that proves he's a real man ..

I thought that was what I said too :eek5:

[Banditbandit]

I thought that was what I said too :eek5:

Yes .. you are right. I responded to your first sentence without reading your second sentence - apologies.

[jasonu]

I responded to your first sentence without reading your second sentence - apologies.

Well that's a first for KB. Half reading a post and then flaming someone...:2thumbsup

[Banditbandit]

Well that's a first for KB. Half reading a post and then flaming someone...:2thumbsup

I don't believe I flamed him ....

[YellowDog]

Yes .. you are right. I responded to your first sentence without reading your second sentence - apologies.

No need for apologies :no: But if we were in America, I would now be dead :gob:

[jasonu]

I don't believe I flamed him ....

Ha, looks like I read only half of your post before flaming you...:first:

[husaberg]

Looks like the perfect politician to me
He hasn't killed anyone though ...the Clinton's are up to 63 ,last count I think..

sent for a divine source

Pretty sure Trump said they bumped off JFK as well
So if Trump says it it must be true.;)


First I have heard of this and really who cares?
Probably similar to the HC camp digging up something he said to Miss Universe 20 odd years ago, petty and reaching.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-ivana-trump-divorce-papers-battle-lawsuit-rape-allegation-marriage-settlement-private-a7294071.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3794607/Trump-Ivana-s-divorce-papers-claim-cruel-inhuman-portions-court-documents-missing-pulled-without-judge-s-order.html
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-ivana-divorce-records-228119
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/judge-won-unseal-donald-ivana-trump-divorce-court-file-article-1.2802311
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/court-docs-reveal-donald-trump-cruel-treatment-ivana-article-1.2796179
Hello.... have you heard any of trumps stuff ie obama


No it won't .. a friend in America said the general reaction to Bill bonking Monica was "If people likev that can't bonk women, then there's no hope for the rest of us ..."

Many of Trump's supporters will believe that proves he's a real man ..

Trump supporters will believe pretty much anything he says, thats the real issue. Credibility you can't buy that.

[jasonu]

Trump supporters will believe pretty much anything he says, thats the real issue. Credibility you can't buy that.

How credible do you think HRC is?

[husaberg]

How credible do you think HRC is?

Well they won a lot of world championships.
http://bp2.blogger.com/_Mvhjidbvdzc/RfTdgbJHY3I/AAAAAAAAAYM/4XEuE2x0n_8/s400/gardner+nsr+1.jpg
Seriously though, as she’s running against trump the bar is not set especially high now is it.

From what i have seen she is urbane, well spoken, and carries herself with great dignity.
I remember all the talk was when Bill was Prez, that she was actually the brains of the opperation.

[jasonu]

Well they won a lot of world championships.
http://bp2.blogger.com/_Mvhjidbvdzc/RfTdgbJHY3I/AAAAAAAAAYM/4XEuE2x0n_8/s400/gardner+nsr+1.jpg
Seriously though, as she’s running against trump the bar is not set especially high now is it.

From what i have seen she is urbane, well spoken, and carries herself with great dignity.
I remember all the talk was when Bill was Prez, that she was actually the brains of the opperation.

Great photo!!!!!

[yokel]

Because they are allowed to, its their right. Its in incase you missed it in the consitution. Thats why its called the 5th amendment.
Are you saying trump is allowed more rights than they are?
Her aids are not hillary.
PS nice attempt to change the subject, how are you getting on with the answers to the quaesions you have avoided.

Its misinformed ignorant cunts like you is one of the main issue with democracy.

Its not a change of subject dumb arse, there's a reason why they've taken the 5th and also been granted immunity.

Moving from this deluded TV watcher.

Not only did Trump beat Hillary in the debate, he also beat the shill moderator.
And the Orwellian media keep trying to say trump was for the Iraq war.


http://youtu.be/VR2XmPMZ9XI

[husaberg]

Its misinformed ignorant cunts like you is one of the main issue with democracy.

Its not a change of subject dumb arse, there's a reason why they've taken the 5th and also been granted immunity.

Moving from this deluded TV watcher.

Not only did Trump beat Hillary in the debate, he also beat the shill moderator.
And the Orwellian media keep trying to say trump was for the Iraq war.



Misinformed and ignorant, that's you to a tee
I see you are still ignoring the questions.
Gee i wonder if thats that because you are just plain ignorant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=127&v=77P6fxa2KOs
STERN: Are you for invading Iraq?

TRUMP: Yeah, I guess so. You know, I wish the first time it was done correctly.

https://soundcloud.com/buzzfeedandrew/trump-on-neil-cavuto-on-march-21-2003
CAVUTO: What do you make of, just, how Wall Street's been reacting to what our military guys have been doing?
TRUMP: Well, I think Wall Street’s waiting to see what happens but even before the fact they’re obviously taking it a little bit for granted and it looks like a tremendous success from a military standpoint and I think this is really nothing compared to what you’re gonna see after the war is over.

[yokel]

STERN: Are you for invading Iraq?

TRUMP: Yeah, I guess so.


Trump made it quite clear in the debate, it was a candid conversation.
And was definitely not 'on the record' as the shill moderator tryed desperately to make out.

You are a fucking clown that should not be allowed to vote.

[husaberg]

Trump made it quite clear in the debate, it was a candid conversation.
And was definitely not 'on the record' as the shill moderator tryed desperately to make out.
You are a fucking clown that should not be allowed to vote.

Dofus you yokeled it up again
Its on the record thats why there is a recording of it its a nationwide radio show. That's how these things work in the realworld.:rolleyes:

BTW yokels american for ass clown. Did you not realise that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjedLeVGcfE&t=11
<marquee behavior="scroll" direction="left">Bring it on ya ass Clown </marquee>

[yokel]

Dofus you yokeled it up again
Its on the record thats why there is a recording of it its a nationwide radio show. That's how these things work in the realworld.:rolleyes:

BTW yokels american for ass clown. Did you not realise that

Conversation with Hayward Stern =/= being on record.
Trump was against the war before it started.

He must of got wind that it was all based on bullshit evidence.

[husaberg]

Conversation with Hayward Stern =/= being on record.
Trump was against the war before it started.

He must of got wind that it was all based on bullshit evidence.
This is too funny, You have yokeled it up again clown. Its not a conversation, It was a radio interview.
Any more wind and your tent is going to blow over.

[yokel]

This is too funny, You have yokeled it up again clown. Its not a conversation, It was a radio interview.
Any more wind and your tent is going to blow over.

You are a true hildabeast supporter.


http://youtu.be/f0JOL90Fey8

[Brian d marge]

No it won't .. a friend in America said the general reaction to Bill bonking Monica was "If people likev that can't bonk women, then there's no hope for the rest of us ..."

Many of Trump's supporters will believe that proves he's a real man ..
If people like that can top 63 others ..what hope have we got...

sent for a divine source

[yokel]

So is this what Hillary was on about with her random weird comment towards the end of the debate on how well prepared she was for the debate??


http://youtu.be/tioeZRt8GmM

[pritch]

Not only did Trump beat Hillary in the debate, he also beat the shill moderator.


Fuck! You come out some weird shit but that pretty much confirms that your grasp of reality is exceedingly tenuous. The moderator was a registered Republican by the way.

If the moderator helped anbody it was Trump by not correcting him when he was talking crap. And I didn't read that, I watched the debate. Trump knows nothing of economics, he knows nothing of international relations, he knows nothing of military matters, he's a genuine all-round ignoramous, a total clown. He says the first thing that comes into his empty head and then says, "Believe me". The fact that it never even occurred to him that this might not work in a televised national debate is indicative of just how thick he is.

Clinton is a lying, coniving, bitch.

There are good reasons why these two have record disapproval ratings.

The difference is that she tells fantasy stories while Trump just says whatever pops into his empty skull. He has been bankrupt six times, he doesn't pay his bills, he is facing charges for raping an underage girl. (The charges were recently withdrawn, but if I have it right that was only so that more witnesses/complainants could be added.) And he is the only candidate in forty odd years who won't show his tax return. It's also kinda interesting that he doesn't seem to understand why he is the only person he knows who is audited every year...

Some people think he'd make a strong leader, there is precedent for that only on the basis that something similar happened in Germany in the 1930s? God spare us that he should become POTUS and "leader of the free world". As scary as it is that could happen if Hillary convinces the people who would normally vote Democrat to stay home. Or if the weather is bad on election day?

[Katman]

Interesting that Jill Stein and Gary Johnson were not permitted to take part in the debate.

It appears the public mustn't be distracted from the two party circus.

[yokel]

Fuck! You come out some weird shit but that pretty much confirms that your grasp of reality is exceedingly tenuous. The moderator was a registered Republican by the way.

If the moderator helped anbody it was Trump by not correcting him when he was talking crap. And I didn't read that, I watched the debate. Trump knows nothing of economics, he knows nothing of international relations, he knows nothing of military matters, he's a genuine all-round ignoramous, a total clown. He says the first thing that comes into his empty head and then says, "Believe me". The fact that it never even occurred to him that this might not work in a televised national debate is indicative of just how thick he is.

Clinton is a lying, coniving, bitch.

There are good reasons why these two have record disapproval ratings.

The difference is that she tells fantasy stories while Trump just says whatever pops into his empty skull. He has been bankrupt six times, he doesn't pay his bills, he is facing charges for raping an underage girl. (The charges were recently withdrawn, but if I have it right that was only so that more witnesses/complainants could be added.) And he is the only candidate in forty odd years who won't show his tax return. It's also kinda interesting that he doesn't seem to understand why he is the only person he knows who is audited every year...

Some people think he'd make a strong leader, there is precedent for that only on the basis that something similar happened in Germany in the 1930s? God spare us that he should become POTUS and "leader of the free world". As scary as it is that could happen if Hillary convinces the people who would normally vote Democrat to stay home. Or if the weather is bad on election day?

And how many Republicans hate Trump?
The Bushes for one,
So the moderator being an Republican counts for fuck all.

And then there's this? The scratch and sniff debate.

http://youtu.be/fpjmN_hIkTQ

[Brian d marge]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160929/ee97e2450fa5a517a5727865b2a1fa85.jpg

I wonder if I refused. Nahhhh
It's a conspiracy.....
My vote is important ....



sent for a divine source

[pritch]

Interesting that Jill Stein and Gary Johnson were not permitted to take part in the debate.

It appears the public mustn't be distracted from the two party circus.

They had a minimum polling figure of 15% to qualify apparently. Neither of the other two qualified. As planned...

[Katman]

They had a minimum polling figure of 15% to qualify apparently. Neither of the other two qualified. As planned...

Yep.

The sanest two in the mix and no-one ever gets to hear them.

[pritch]

And how many Republicans hate Trump?
The Bushes for one,
So the moderator being an Republican counts for fuck all.



Bush 41 says he won't vote for Trump. Who knows what Bush 43 thinks. Or even if he thinks. :whistle:

While Republicans may not like Trump they can't sell their soul quick enough. Trump insulted Cruz's father and his wife but Cruz, who said he would never support Trump, has now endorsed him. All on the offchance of getting a meaningful job in President Trumps administration of course.

So basically the moderator being a registered Republican does count.

I can't see all of the three debates happening, If, as is probable, Trump gets done over again in the next one, he won't come out for round three.

[Brian d marge]

Even Kennedy was from one of the families ... They won't let us grass eaters near .... Shame it might be fun to have a Looney asleep at the wheel



sent for a divine source

[mashman]

If people like that can top 63 others ..what hope have we got...

sent for a divine source

If only there were more than 63 of us :eek:

[jasonu]

Interesting that Jill Stein and Gary Johnson were not permitted to take part in the debate.

It appears the public mustn't be distracted from the two party circus.

Not that interesting really, just the way it is.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/16/politics/johnson-stein-fail-to-qualify-for-first-debate/

[Brian d marge]

If only there were more than 63 of us :eek:
Surprisingly
fk just ran out of wasabi pepper, life now sux,,,,

\any way I m surprised how many kiwis are awake...not sure ur going to get 63 ....but IT is starting to happen

u need 5% of the population * world wide * before things will change

up to u on this one , me ....house food and beer ..have been covered ....might need to dig a fkin great big hole if Hitlary is in office,,,but other that that I should be sweet even learnt the Chinese word for beer ,,, might come in handy one day !

[Voltaire]

After reading all the info on CNN and Fox ....

https://still4hill.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/commit01.png?w=500

Democracy at work....go the US.:niceone:

[yokel]

Bush 41 says he won't vote for Trump. Who knows what Bush 43 thinks. Or even if he thinks. :whistle:

While Republicans may not like Trump they can't sell their soul quick enough. Trump insulted Cruz's father and his wife but Cruz, who said he would never support Trump, has now endorsed him. All on the offchance of getting a meaningful job in President Trumps administration of course.

So basically the moderator being a registered Republican does count.

I can't see all of the three debates happening, If, as is probable, Trump gets done over again in the next one, he won't come out for round three.

So why was Trump debating the moderator?
It's not the moderators role to debate the debater's.
Like it said it counts for fuck all.
Cruz is a politician, it's what they do.

The whole endorsement stuff is a joke, they say that their opponent is fucking useless nek minnit they endorse the fucker.

Trump won the debate, he killed Hillary and the mod.
Hillary was flat and scripted.
Highlight was the Iraq war, national debt and after comments on her temperament then she made a stupid noise like a child.

If she won it for you, Tell me on what?

[mashman]

Surprisingly
fk just ran out of wasabi pepper, life now sux,,,,

\any way I m surprised how many kiwis are awake...not sure ur going to get 63 ....but IT is starting to happen

u need 5% of the population * world wide * before things will change

up to u on this one , me ....house food and beer ..have been covered ....might need to dig a fkin great big hole if Hitlary is in office,,,but other that that I should be sweet even learnt the Chinese word for beer ,,, might come in handy one day !

I'll see what I can do ;)... coz if nothing else, no man should be without wasabi pepper. Let's see where the wind blows :wari:

[pritch]

If she won it for you, Tell me on what?

Briefly, she had prepared and she knew what she was talking about.

He had not prepared, and he didn't have a fucking clue. To be fair his abysmal ignorance has not held him back in the bubble that is the FOX News audience, but it may not appeal to the general population.

If he appears at the next debate he'll lose that too, and he probably won't even appear for the third.


His son says Trump showed courage in not questioning Hillary about Bill's infidelity. The stupid runs strong in that family.

[Katman]

Briefly, she had prepared and she knew what she was talking about.

He had not prepared, and he didn't have a fucking clue.

To be fair, if there's any truth in the rumour that Clinton received a copy of all the questions prior to the debate, then it was hardly a fair contest.

[TheDemonLord]

To be fair, if there's any truth in the rumour that Clinton received a copy of all the questions prior to the debate, then it was hardly a fair contest.

Why would she need to recieve a copy of the questions? You can pretty much guess what they will be:

The Economy
The national Debt
US foreign Policy
Iraq/Afghanistan/Terrorism
Gun Control
Police brutality/tactics
etc.

[yokel]

Briefly, she had prepared and she knew what she was talking about.

He had not prepared, and he didn't have a fucking clue. To be fair his abysmal ignorance has not held him back in the bubble that is the FOX News audience, but it may not appeal to the general population.

If he appears at the next debate he'll lose that too, and he probably won't even appear for the third.


His son says Trump showed courage in not questioning Hillary about Bill's infidelity. The stupid runs strong in that family.

You do realise that in your rant you haven't actually pointed out where Hillary beat Trump.

All you're doing is calling Trump names just like Hillary.

Did you actually watch the debate?

[YellowDog]

I'd love to see Trump become President.

As New Zealanders, it would be safe and hilarious.

Obviously, the rest of the world would get fucked in to oblivion, unless he was taken out nice and early.

I wonder what sort of odds you might get on such a double at the TAB?

[Voltaire]

To be fair, if there's any truth in the rumour that Clinton received a copy of all the questions prior to the debate, then it was hardly a fair contest.


Bored at work, feeling lonely.....start a conspiracy thread :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Yeah I know the answer......." People like you believe the MSM, Muppets, some swear works to fill the void ":woohoo::woohoo:

[pritch]

To be fair, if there's any truth in the rumour that Clinton received a copy of all the questions prior to the debate, then it was hardly a fair contest.

That is bollox apparently. You've been reading those conspiracy sites again? Read Snopes, they fact check.

There has been no shortage of conspiracy theories about the debate: Hillary communicating with the moderator by hand signals, secret papers, a secret earpiece for the moderator, Hillary wearing a wire, and of course your favourite, she was given the topics.

I'm nostalgic for the days when we had full employment. If everybody was gainfully employed there'd be a lot less crap on the Internet.

[pritch]

You do realise that in your rant you haven't actually pointed out where Hillary beat Trump.

Did you actually watch the debate?

The first two sentences should cover it for anyone with normal comprehension skills.

Yes actually I did. Will probably watch the next one too - if there is one.

[yokel]

The first two sentences should cover it for anyone with normal comprehension skills.

Yes actually I did. Will probably watch the next one too - if there is one.

There was zero content relating to the debate in your post.

So I have no idea what the hell your on about.

Actually I take that back a little, she was well prepared. Maybe too much ?

Trump being busy on the campaign trail vs Hillary staying home to study her lines could be why Trump was under prepared?

[yokel]

Is this what the Hillary camp was on about being well prepared for the debate?
Her comment on it during the debate was just weird.


http://youtu.be/6C__OmNj508

[TheDemonLord]

There was zero content relating to the debate in your post.

So I have no idea what the hell your on about.

Actually I take that back a little, she was well prepared. Maybe too much ?

Trump being busy on the campaign trail vs Hillary staying home to study her lines could be why Trump was under prepared?

Or could it be that as a presidential candidate, she might be aware of the key political issues?

[Katman]

Read Snopes, they fact check.

:killingme

[yokel]

Or could it be that as a presidential candidate, she might be aware of the key political issues?

Of course shes well aware of the political issues, she's hand a hand in them over the 30 years.

I guess it depends if trump calling fat slobs fat slobs or spending 6 tril destabilising the middle east is the bigger issue?

And that destabilization is exactly what trump said was going to happen when the war started.

[yokel]

:killingme

How about hillacunt plugging the 'fact checker' on her website during the debate.
Plus her stink book.

[YellowDog]

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_______________________________

[Voltaire]

Lol, maybe after he loses he can go into comedy, as no one takes him seriously ( other than Yokel who is delusional):lol:

[pritch]

The Chicago Tribune, a respected American newspaper now in its 170th year of publication, has endorsed Gary Johnson for President.

The reasons are damning of the candidates representing the two major parties, and it's a good read provided you aren't fixated on conspiracy theories and have an IQ above room temperature.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-gary-johnson-president-endorsement-edit-1002-20160930-story.html

[YellowDog]

At last..... A clearer photo :yes:

[yokel]

Miss piggy caught out as a big fat Hillary liar
https://youtu.be/fUFPc_uT3iM?t=9m5s

[yokel]

The Chicago Tribune, a respected American newspaper now in its 170th year of publication, has endorsed Gary Johnson for President.

The reasons are damning of the candidates representing the two major parties, and it's a good read provided you aren't fixated on conspiracy theories and have an IQ above room temperature.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-gary-johnson-president-endorsement-edit-1002-20160930-story.html

Good option if you're neurotic fag that's scared of being called a 'conspiracy theorist'

Only a brain dead moron would think Hillary beat Trump in the debate.

The next one will be just as rigged.


http://youtu.be/Ml9D02Nz2Q4

[husaberg]

Good option if you're neurotic fag that's scared of being called a 'conspiracy theorist'


Whats katman got to do with it?

[yokel]

Whats katman got to do with it?

fuck all.

i'm still waiting for your answer for where the rest of the 6 milloin dead jews are at?

[husaberg]

fuck all.

i'm still waiting for your answer for where the rest of the 6 milloin dead jews are at?

Are you? Well add it to the list of things that people ignore you on, This could be as you are largely irreverent or ask some very stupid question or both.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/63/de/73/63de738c29c50dc72bb176a06714d849.jpg

[Woodman]

fuck all.

i'm still waiting for your answer for where the rest of the 6 milloin dead jews are at?

Unless someone comes up with their names, cause of death and date of death of exactly 6 million Jewish people your stupid conspiracy brain will still argue that it didn't happen.

[yokel]

Are you? Well add it to the list of things that people ignore you on, This could be as you are largely irreverent or ask some very stupid question or both.



You are one pathetic cunt.
Theres a reason why you can't answer the questions.

Now what was it you were saying about Trumps sniffing??

What's it like to be such a fucking loser?


http://youtu.be/jN1uKM0pku0

[husaberg]

You have won i'm just a pathetic cunt.
Theres a reason why I can't answer the questions.

Now what was it you were saying about Trumps sniffing??

Trump knows What's it like to be a fucking loser?


Okay whatever you say....

[yokel]

Okay whatever you say....

You are a fucking embarrassment.

[husaberg]

You are a fucking embarrassment.

So Yokel,When your daughter grows up, do you intend to sell her off as a mail order bride to some loser like yourself, You know that's clearly so dim witted and repugnant can't get a women without ordering and paying for one from a third world country?

[yokel]

When your daughter grows up do you intend to sell her off as a mail order bride to some loser like yourself, that's clearly so dim witted and repugnant can't get a women without ordering from a third world country?

Answer the Jewish question.

[husaberg]

Answer the Jewish question.

Sounds like more of your Hilter ravings again, what would be your final solution to selling off your daughter?
Would you sell her to Trump?


When your daughter grows up do you intend to sell her off as a mail order bride to some loser like yourself, that's clearly so dim witted and repugnant can't get a women without ordering from a third world country?

[WristTwister]

A bad choice getting a moderator who is a registered Republican or Democrat if they wanted to remove bias. Some Dem voters do register as Republicans as they can vote on the candidates - a bit cunning, but not common enough practice to expect the moderator to be doing the same thing.

It's interesting that Hillary Clinton is under-performing against him, considering how "polarising" Donald Trump is. There may be a lower voter turn out for this election because people don't want either of them.

Of course if anyone is interested in which-way the big money is voting, Google Hillary Clinton campaign finance and Donald Trump campaign finance.

[Virago]

There's little doubt that Clinton won the first debate, and most people seem to agree.

She was focused, and she was prepared. If the obsessive conspiracy theorists want to work themselves into a frenzy over that, let 'em. At times she seemed hesitant in her responses, particularly to Trump's constant interruptions, which gave the impression that departure from the script rattled her.

Trump on the other hand was never hesitant. In typical Trump style he talked fast and loose - you could see him almost trying to formulate policy and history as he was speaking. As a result he was unfocused and rambling, at times never even attempting to answer a straight question.

The next debate (if there is one) will be interesting. I suspect that rather than be policy focused, Trump will be going for the jugular.

[pritch]

A bad choice getting a moderator who is a registered Republican or Democrat if they wanted to remove bias. Some Dem voters do register as Republicans as they can vote on the candidates - a bit cunning, but not common enough practice to expect the moderator to be doing the same thing.

It's interesting that Hillary Clinton is under-performing against him, considering how "polarising" Donald Trump is. There may be a lower voter turn out for this election because people don't want either of them.

Of course if anyone is interested in which-way the big money is voting, Google Hillary Clinton campaign finance and Donald Trump campaign finance.

Nah, that's far too sensible for this thread. Although that bit about the big money is problematical, Hillary is bought and paid for.

Yokel might be moved to post another of his silly conspiracy nutters' video clips. Amazing how dimwitted the people who make these, and those who give them credence are. That last one contained a fantasy about Trump's allegedly sabotaged mic but brushed over three important words: "IN THE HALL". The clip mentioned them once and moved quickly on. For the millions watching on TV, including me, there was no problem, Trump portrayed himself as exactly the silly sniffling clueless twat that he is.

I don't know why Yokel keeps banging on about Clinton, 'cause nobody can stand her either.

Southpark summed it up years ago when they said the US elections ony ever give a choice between a turd sandwich and a giant douche. Even Southpark never saw this one coming.

[Virago]

Interesting that Jill Stein and Gary Johnson were not permitted to take part in the debate.

It appears the public mustn't be distracted from the two party circus.

Pretty normal for any political system that favours the big players. It used to be the same in New Zealand under the FPP system, only National and Labour were invited for debate. Smaller parties were on a hiding to nothing - even when parties like Social Credit started gaining an appreciable foothold, they still protested their exclusion from the public debates. In those days a vote for anything other than National or Labour was considered to be a wasted vote - and under FPP it invariably was.

[yokel]

There's little doubt that Clinton won the first debate, and most people seem to agree.

She was focused, and she was prepared. If the obsessive conspiracy theorists want to work themselves into a frenzy over that, let 'em. At times she seemed hesitant in her responses, particularly to Trump's constant interruptions, which gave the impression that departure from the script rattled her.

Trump on the other hand was never hesitant. In typical Trump style he talked fast and loose - you could see him almost trying to formulate policy and history as he was speaking. As a result he was unfocused and rambling, at times never even attempting to answer a straight question.

The next debate (if there is one) will be interesting. I suspect that rather than be policy focused, Trump will be going for the jugular.


No Trump won, only a silly TV watcher would say otherwise.

Trumps performance wasn't great but it was good enough.


https://youtu.be/EyEfutKhuBQ

[Virago]

No Trump won, only a silly TV watcher would say otherwise.

Trumps performance wasn't great but it was good enough.

Some of those "silly TV watchers" actually watched the live debate and formulated their own opinion, rather than searching Youtube for a predetermined opinion.

Still, if that's what you want...

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[pritch]

Yokel might be moved to post another of his silly conspiracy nutters' video clips.

And there he is as predicted. Although the guy in one of the new ones is possibly sane, unlike the others.

It's reported that Trump's handlers wanted him to hammer Hillary about the Clinton Foundation at the next debate. The accusation (which may not be without basis) is that countries and individuals made a major donation to the Clinton Foundation and in return gained access to the upper levels of the US Administration, or otherwise received favourable treatment from the State Department when Hillary was Secretary of State.

It would have been a sound tactical ploy to go after her on that basis because she was apparently very vulnerable in that area. Until today.

Trump also has a charitable foundation although Trump himself has donated no money to his own foundation for a number of years. He has though donated money from the foundation, as if from himself, and has accepted the credit for doing so. The benefactors of this largesse then reciprocate by holding their next bunfight in a Trump hotel so he gains financially from donating other people's money.

There are strict controls on what such a foundation can be used for, none of the money may be used to benefit officers of the foundation. Yet Trump has reportedly used the money donated to his foundation by others to pay the legal costs arising from a lost court action. He has twice paid about US$10,000 for giant six foot high portraits of himself. That'd be OK if he had donated the portraits although who, apart from Yokel, would want one? One is hanging at his golf club though. He has apparently also used foundation money to buy sports memorabilia.

There is the suspicion that he has had companies that owed him money pay the Trump Foundation instead. The motive presumably to classify the money as a charitable donation and avoid tax.

Today the killer. This financial genius, this "winner", has never thought to register his foundation as a charity. The Trump Foundation has been operating illegally since day one. The Attorney General is investigating and his tax audit probably just got a whole lot more complicated. The Clintons must be thanking their lucky stars.

[husaberg]

Some of those "silly TV watchers" actually watched the live debate and formulated their own opinion, rather than searching Youtube for a predetermined opinion.
Still, if that's what you want...



And there he is as predicted. Although the guy in one of the new ones is possibly sane, unlike the others.

.

Yokels he posted.
Note the author

HA Goodman is also the author of Breaking the Devil's Heart and Logic of Demons, a widely acclaimed series of existential fantasy novels.
Rather apt really.

Looking at his Youtube channel makes it pretty clear he has no bias at all;)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDB5XReUyyqt-FTNdkzFN-A

This one off his channel is rather funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mod9FgX40OY
DONALD TRUMP CUBA AND FOUNDATION SCANDALS EXPLAINED: It’s About Hillary Clinton

[FatMax]

Some of those "silly TV watchers" actually watched the live debate and formulated their own opinion, rather than searching Youtube for a predetermined opinion.

Still, if that's what you want...

Quote of this thread and personification of this whole presidential debarcle, Excellent work :niceone::niceone::niceone:

[YellowDog]

I've sort of changed my mind about our head of state. The next time we have a discussion about dropping the monarchy, the US model tells me we are much better off.

Just imagine having some low life gutter snipe, like WP, as our president :shit:

[pritch]

Can't claim this as my own but I like it.

"If Trump takes over the Whitehouse from Obama, does that mean orange is the new black?"

[husaberg]

Can't claim this as my own but I like it.

"If Trump takes over the Whitehouse from Obama, does that mean orange is the new black?"

Sounds more like a jaffa

[pritch]

Sounds more like a jaffa

White outer, orange inner? More like an egg? And Trump is certainly a fucking egg. :whistle:

[yokel]

White outer, orange inner? More like an egg? And Trump is certainly a fucking egg. :whistle:

And now all that petty shit from the past she brought up in the debate (as women do) has backfired.
She's the one with Trump's egg goo on her face.

[pritch]

And now all that petty shit from the past she brought up in the debate (as women do) has backfired.
She's the one with Trump's egg goo on her face.

The image of Hillary with Trump's goo on her face is making me queasy. I hope it won't put me off my ice cream.

[Voltaire]

It's becoming clear in the thread the mind ( or lack of) the average Don supporter :2thumbsup

Provincial town dweller who only just managed to finish school and likes to spend day on internet cutting and pasting video clips.:zzzz:

[TheDemonLord]

It's becoming clear in the thread the mind ( or lack of) the average Don supporter :2thumbsup

Provincial town dweller who only just managed to finish school and likes to spend day on internet cutting and pasting video clips.:zzzz:

Not true, I support Trump, mainly because either way I think the US is fucked, but at least Trump will give us a few hilarious foot-in-mouth moments on the way down.

[pritch]

This could be a cautionary tale for the conspiracy theorists/Trump supporters, but it probably exceeds their limited attention span:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/finally-someone-who-thinks-like-me/2016/10/01/c9b6f334-7f68-11e6-9070-5c4905bf40dc_story.html?wpisrc=nl_most-draw8&wpmm=1

[Voltaire]

This could be a cautionary tale for the conspiracy theorists/Trump supporters, but it probably exceeds their limited attention span:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/finally-someone-who-thinks-like-me/2016/10/01/c9b6f334-7f68-11e6-9070-5c4905bf40dc_story.html?wpisrc=nl_most-draw8&wpmm=1

She should probably look at the label inside her hat for starters .
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Chf9fKmXEAAFd2k.jpg

[Brian d marge]

This could be a cautionary tale for the conspiracy theorists/Trump supporters, but it probably exceeds their limited attention span:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/finally-someone-who-thinks-like-me/2016/10/01/c9b6f334-7f68-11e6-9070-5c4905bf40dc_story.html?wpisrc=nl_most-draw8&wpmm=1


Its the washington post fr gawds sake

it is right in the fact that people are starting to wake up ...i.e trump

Its the same here, good honest people trying to do the right thing and ..will be shafted big willy style very soon

Quite sad really

[oldrider]

Not true, I support Trump, mainly because either way I think the US is fucked, but at least Trump will give us a few hilarious foot-in-mouth moments on the way down.

I think it was "Southpark"? that said it best!

When America gets given the choice between Herpes and Gonorrhoea or some such? :corn:

They will still simply go ahead on cue and make a choice between the the two options provided! :sick:

[Ocean1]

it is right in the fact that people are starting to wake up ...i.e trump

Its the same here, good honest people trying to do the right thing and ..will be shafted big willy style very soon

Quite sad really

Will that be before or after the great 2014 market crash?

[husaberg]

Not true, I support Trump, mainly because either way I think the US is fucked, but at least Trump will give us a few hilarious foot-in-mouth moments on the way down.

True, but i would rather the foot and mouth incidents, didn't include an unlimited access to thermonuclear weapons.

[yokel]

True, but i would rather the foot and mouth incidents, didn't include a unlimited access to thermonuclear weapons.

You'll be glad to know that your autism is by choice and is the mainstream media's fault.

'I don't care, fuck them all I'm voting for Trump'


http://youtu.be/dFzyOPfL2vE

[husaberg]

You'll be glad to know that your autism is by choice and is the mainstream media's fault.

'I don't care, fuck them all I'm voting for Trump'


Cheers I see you are deluded enough to think you are a doctor now.
I will add that to your other list of tragic delusions.

Yokel thinks hes
An engineer
A Pilot
A scientist
A doctor
Not a total idiot

[TheDemonLord]

True, but i would rather the foot and mouth incidents, didn't include a unlimited access to thermonuclear weapons.

Well, we can't always get what we want.

[yokel]

Cheers I see you are deluded enough to think you are a doctor now.
I will add that to your other list of tragic delusions.

Yokel thinks hes
An engineer
A Pilot
A scientist
A doctor
Not a total idiot

You realise all you're doing is proving that you're unable to think for yourself.

One candidate wants to have a useful relationship with Russia, the other wants to smash Russia.

You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to work out whitch one is most likely going to be your WW3 candidate.

But oh Trump is a 'white man' and their for is evil.

Its quite clear who the racist bigots are.



http://youtu.be/Pa-7a2gLDjI

[Brian d marge]

Will that be before or after the great 2014 market crash?
You might want to look outside your ivory tower



sent for a divine source

[yokel]

An actual moment of some truth and honesty from Hillary. http://youtu.be/nz5QlnPuyNM

All those poor millinals that foolishly thought they were part of a revolution.

Expect a very low turn out by these millinals on election day, just like Hillary rallies.

[pritch]

You realise all you're doing is proving that you're unable to think for yourself.



That's ironic coming from a guy who normally responds to comments on the 'net by posting other people's Youtube clips.
And I don't mean "ironic" in the Alanis Morisette sense. Whatever that is. :whistle:

[husaberg]

Well, we can't always get what we want.

But if you try sometimes, well you just might find, You get what you need.


You realise all you're doing is proving that you're unable to think for yourself.


I think you are a blithering idiot, incapable of establishing a logical thought pattern, to be fair though. I sincerely doubt anyone rational, which has read your posts, could reach any other conclusion.

[jasonu]

True, but i would rather the foot and mouth incidents, didn't include an unlimited access to thermonuclear weapons.

Do you think they will simply give him the codes/keys and let him have free unsupervised access to the nukes to do as he pleases?

[Grumph]

Do you think they will simply give him the codes/keys and let him have free unsupervised access to the nukes to do as he pleases?

Not initially, no...But I can see some "you're fired" moments coming to the top ranks of the US military if he does get in.

He hasn't exactly been complimentary about the military and there's probably more than a few in there unhappy at the prospect of the Donald anywhere near weapons.

You may not like Hilary but at least she has experience as to just how far you can push without starting WW3.

[Katman]

You may not like Hilary but at least she has experience as to just how far you can push without starting WW3.

WW3 is a far more likely prospect with Clinton at the helm.

[YellowDog]

Do you think they will simply give him the codes/keys and let him have free unsupervised access to the nukes to do as he pleases?

It sounds like we might be confusing the USA with North Korea. The reality is that the US President is the figure head of an enormous administration. Yes, some slight tinkering can happen, but without majority agreement, the President has very little power. As most of his own party won't be supporting him, he'll be a lame duck from Day 1. It took Obama a few years to become a lame duck, but Trump might break the all time record.

Watching power hungry Trump, in charge, with very little power at all, would be very entertaining. I guess he could go to far and get JFKed out of the pciture :o

[TheDemonLord]

WW3 is a far more likely prospect with Clinton at the helm.

I think it's a pretty even 50/50 split tbh.

but as I said, at least Trump will give us a few laughs before it all goes to shit.

[jasonu]

WW3 is a far more likely prospect with Clinton at the helm.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-suspends-contacts-with-russia-on-syria/ar-BBwWYE8?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=EIE9HP

The Dems are certainly heading in that general direction.

[oldrider]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-suspends-contacts-with-russia-on-syria/ar-BBwWYE8?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=EIE9HP

The Dems are certainly heading in that general direction.

Russia is preventing USA from getting on with their war of terror against Assad and the Syrian people (and eventually Iran) so they tell the world it's Russia's fault! :msn-wink:

[husaberg]

Do you think they will simply give him the codes/keys and let him have free unsupervised access to the nukes to do as he pleases?

Yes I’m afraid that’s pretty much how it works. He of course, has to get secretary of state’s approval first, which is i understand a formality, as they can't refuse his request anyway. ( it’s a chain of command thing)
So given his prpensity to over react and lose control of what he says. A nuclear attack if say someone insults his toupee, is possible in under 15 minutes.
He has shown no ability to control what he says, even within his own campaign, he clearly doesn’t listen to his own advisors now, so seriously what do you think more power will do to his already out of control ego.
I do realise the alternative canditate is unpalatable to a lot of Americans. But seriously hes a looney tune.



"Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise Donald Trump. And three times [Trump] asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked at one point if we had them why can't we use them," Scarborough said on his "Morning Joe" program.
Scarborough made the Trump comments 52 seconds into an interview with former Director of Central Intelligence and ex-National Security Agency Director Michael Hayden.


Scarborough then asked a hypothetical question to Hayden about how quickly nuclear weapons could be deployed if a president were to give approval.
"It's scenario dependent, but the system is designed for speed and decisiveness. It's not designed to debate the decision," Hayden said.


The revelation came amid a discussion with Hayden, a former director of both the CIA and the NSA, about checks on the president's power to launch a nuclear strike.
Scarborough asked Hayden, who confirmed during the program that he's not voting for Trump, what safeguards there are to stop 'any president who may not be stable' from launching a nuclear act.'


Hayden explained that the Constitution puts 'great power' in the hands of the president and commander-in-chief.
Scarborough pressed him to say where or not there is, however, anyone or anything standing in between 'a president who is unfit to be commander in chief and the final person that presses the code and launches the nuclear weapons against a country that has angered the commander in chief.'

[husaberg]

Russia is preventing USA from getting on with their war of terror against Assad and the Syrian people (and eventually Iran) so they tell the world it's Russia's fault! :msn-wink:

Odd that you have no issue with this?
An international investigation into the downed Malaysia Airlines flight 17 has concluded that the plane was struck by a Russian-made missile.

Russia vetoes MH17 resolution Russia vetoed a UN Security Council resolution on setting up an MH17 international criminal tribunal to prosecute those responsible for downing a Malaysia Airlines plane over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014 that killed all 298 people on board.
http://www.unian.info/world/1106380-power-russias-veto-not-to-prevent-investigation-into-mh17-disaster.html



The Russian side has kept the radar data for more than two years
Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/world/1539732-mh17-crash-in-donbas-bellingcat-explains-why-russia-provides-radar-data-so-late.html


odd thing to do really if you have nothing to hide............


but it gets better

Asked by an UNIAN reporter, why the Russian generals said two years ago that they had seen a Ukrainian Su-25 on their radar screens close to MH17, and now, referring to the same radar data, they say that any airborne side objects that could cause the destruction of the aircraft were not observed in the area of a disaster, Peskov said that he could not answer this question.
http://www.unian.info/world/1542616-kremlin-declines-to-comment-on-def-mins-earlier-statements-on-ukrainian-su-25-near-mh17.html

[oldrider]

Do you think they will simply give him the codes/keys and let him have free unsupervised access to the nukes to do as he pleases?

Old brother Nathaniel always has a different take on things - just saw this at the end of another posted clip.

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[Voltaire]

WW3 is a far more likely prospect with Clinton at the helm.


Well there you have it the inside line from our US Political Correspondent based right here in Taupo :banana:

And coming up right after the break Yokel delights us all with more clips from his day of trawling conspiracy sites :clap:

[husaberg]

Well there you have it the inside line from our US Political Correspondent based right here in Taupo :banana:

And coming up right after the break Yokel delights us all with more clips from his day of trawling conspiracy sites :clap:

If you ever get the chance press Yokel about his Shellfish conspiracy. Although normally vocal he completely clams up when asked about it.

[Voltaire]

If you ever get the chance press Yokel about his Shellfish conspiracy. Although normally vocal he completely clams up when asked about it.

Have to wait until his homoerotic hero Donald :love::love::love: fails in his attempt at making America great again.:nya:

[Woodman]

If you ever get the chance press Yokel about his Shellfish conspiracy. Although normally vocal he completely clams up when asked about it.

Antigravity shellfish?

[husaberg]

Have to wait until his homoerotic hero Donald :love::love::love: fails in his attempt at making America great again.:nya:
Katman is a ring in then.....

Antigravity shellfish?

No idea but he gets all crabby when its mentioned.....

[oldrider]

Wikileaks? - tomorrow is October surprise day over in the real world - surprise or just another fizzer? - what do you reckon? : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947fP6QTmBo


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[husaberg]

Wikileaks? - tomorrow is October surprise day over in the real world - surprise or just another fizzer? - what do you reckon? :>

How is it you view Julian Assange any different than a skinnier albino version of Kim DotCom.
After all he is just a peddler of stolen illegally obtained material with a criminal past.




Who and what is Kim.Com? ... I asked myself this question and I really don't know the answer! :no:

I guess then I am just biased against a fat rich German coming here trying to use our country as he likes ... so I have started to try to understand! :shifty:

So far it looks as if he is considered to be no different to a money launderer or a fence for criminally stolen property! (Receiving?)

He admits to having a past criminal record obviously knows his computer stuff and is happy to push the legal envelope wherever he can!

I would prefer that he did this from his own or some other country rather than sheltering in ours and taking advantage of NZ naivety! :confused:

[YellowDog]

How is it you view Julian Assange any different than a skinnier albino version of Kim DotCom.
After all he is just a peddler of stolen illegally obtained material with a criminal past.

Yes, you got it.

They're also shapeshifters :yes:

[Voltaire]

Yes, you got it.

They're also shapeshifters :yes:

Some say he is in the pay of the Kremlin.:laugh:

[oldrider]

How is it you view Julian Assange any different than a skinnier albino version of Kim DotCom.
After all he is just a peddler of stolen illegally obtained material with a criminal past.

Always making assumptions - I don't know anything about Assange - never claimed to other than what one might casually read or hear in MSM etc!

I saw another claim of expected material release and asked the question! - Will there be sensation - as claimed - or will it be simply another fizzer? :scratch:

[pritch]

Some say he is in the pay of the Kremlin.:laugh:

Nah. That's Edward Snowden. :whistle:

Since we're discussing Assange, KIm Dot Com got a mention, and now I've mentioned Snowden. Have any of you heard of Alexandria, Virginia?

I hadn't, but while my knowledge of US geography is not great it's not the worst either. 'Cause I'd never heard of it, I'm assuming that Alexandria is far from the biggest city in the US of A. The District Court of East Virginia is located at Alexandria. Alexandria is very handy to Washington DC, and apparently it's only a bit further north to the CIA headquarters at Langley. In the other direction it's not far to Quantico which houses the FBI and the United States Marines.

Because of this location, people selected for jury service in the District Court at Alexandria usually either work for the government, or have somebody in their family who does. Unsurprisingly therefore, juries in Alexandria tend to be sympathetic to the government.

The courthouse in Alexandria may be far from the biggest in the country but the prosecutor there probably has a busy case load. By a remarkable coincidence though he is handling the US prosecutions of Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, and Kim Dot Com.

[husaberg]

Always making assumptions - I don't know anything about Assange - never claimed to other than what one might casually read or hear in MSM etc!

I saw another claim of expected material release and asked the question! - Will there be sensation - as claimed - or will it be simply another fizzer? :scratch:
By posting his latest release, you are promoting him.
As i said you were scathing of Kim.com. Yet you are promoting someone who is essentially do the same things.


Who and what is Kim.Com? ... I asked myself this question and I really don't know the answer! :no:

I guess then I am just biased against a fat rich German coming here trying to use our country as he likes ... so I have started to try to understand! :shifty:

Looked at this link for an opener: http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/hollywoods-villain-kim-dotcom/

So far it looks as if he is considered to be no different to a money launderer or a fence for criminally stolen property! (Receiving?)

He admits to having a past criminal record obviously knows his computer stuff and is happy to push the legal envelope wherever he can!

I would prefer that he did this from his own or some other country rather than sheltering in ours and taking advantage of NZ naivety! :confused:


Yes, you got it.

They're also shapeshifters :yes:
Yeah highly likely, should we ask Dr yokel for a diagnosis
That might be why Alex Jones is so scathing of him as a plant on the link Oldie posted.
Hes in the loop (Fruit)about the lizard Men.:killingme
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/alex-jones-maybe-aliens-really-do-run-world

[Brian d marge]

The boys don't like it when ya cut into their profits

Old Kim is promoting a tool that will hobble their wee game

So from the yard arm shall he swing

Watch how bent out of shape they get when u try and use gold as a money

That really pisses em off

sent for a divine source

[yokel]

Do you think they will simply give him the codes/keys and let him have free unsupervised access to the nukes to do as he pleases?

Yes he's that dumb, I suspect it's a result of low testosterone levels.


http://youtu.be/qFpP4Sx-YkQ


Yes I’m afraid that’s pretty much how it works. He of course, has to get secretary of state’s approval first, which is i understand a formality, as they can't refuse his request anyway. ( it’s a chain of command thing)
So given his prpensity to over react and lose control of what he says. A nuclear attack if say someone insults his toupee, is possible in under 15 minutes.
He has shown no ability to control what he says, even within his own campaign, he clearly doesn’t listen to his own advisors now, so seriously what do you think more power will do to his already out of control ego.
I do realise the alternative canditate is unpalatable to a lot of Americans. But seriously hes a loney tune.

What a complete load of waffle.
Better a man speak his mind than be a disingenuous cunt.

Its funny seeing the MSM do their nuts over Trump's tax returns.

Have you got that answer yet for the Jewish question??
Assuming the 960 000 number is correct, which it probably not just like the original 4 mill odd that was way off.

[Woodman]

The boys don't like it when ya cut into their profits



Who the fuck does?

I don't and pretty sure you don't either.