The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[oldrider]

In the search for the proverbial truth, the "everything the MSM says is wrong" approach is just as delusional as "everything the MSM says is right".

It's not so much that MSM reporting is wrong it is more about the selective omissions that give cause for most concern! :blip:

[TheDemonLord]

It's not so much that MSM reporting is wrong it is more about the selective omissions that give cause for most concern! :blip:

Because the non-MSM NEVER Cherry Picks or selectively omits relevant data........

[Katman]

Because the non-MSM NEVER Cherry Picks or selectively omits relevant data........

How the fuck would you know?

You refuse to acquaint yourself with it.

[TheDemonLord]

How the fuck would you know.

You refuse to acquaint yourself with it.

I refuse to brainwash myself with it - There is a difference, but keep praying to your Idol.

[Voltaire]

It's not so much that MSM reporting is wrong it is more about the selective omissions that give cause for most concern! :blip:


They seem to find plenty of time for real news like sports.

Anyways how do all you MSM bashers know whats MSM without watching/reading it?

Would knowing who all the Presidential hopefuls make me better informed at my non voting rights in the US elections?

[jasonu]

It's not so much that MSM reporting is wrong it is more about the selective omissions that give cause for most concern! :blip:

Yep if they were any more slanted it would be too obvious for even HC supporters to deny.

[bogan]

Yep if they were any more slanted it would be too obvious for even HC supporters to deny.

You think the MSM is slanting their news unfavorably for the Donald?

Perhaps occam's razor applies, and that the news of Donald is simply unfavorable; he flip flops on his 'policies', he is demonstrably wrong on many, many occasions; specifically when describing the current state of affairs.

The MSM report similar things about HC as well, just not so often, because she doesn't fuck it up so often.

Look, we get that you're xenophobic, and want to support Donald's xenophobic ideals, but don't insult yourself and the rest of us by trying to claim he is being victimised here.

[Woodman]

How the fuck would you know?

You refuse to acquaint yourself with it.

well you tell us how the non msm stuff you watch is absolutely true and unbiased.

[Voltaire]

well you tell us how the non msm stuff you watch is absolutely true and unbiased.

To quote a Commandant of a WW2 POW Camp, " you think I know damn nothing.....well I know damn all"

[jasonu]

You think the MSM is slanting their news unfavorably for the Donald?

Perhaps occam's razor applies, and that the news of Donald is simply unfavorable; he flip flops on his 'policies', he is demonstrably wrong on many, many occasions; specifically when describing the current state of affairs.

The MSM report similar things about HC as well, just not so often, because she doesn't fuck it up so often.

Look, we get that you're xenophobic, and want to support Donald's xenophobic ideals, but don't insult yourself and the rest of us by trying to claim he is being victimised here.

You should see the way the nightly news is presented here.

[bogan]

You should see the way the nightly news is presented here.

Is it demonstrably inaccurate? Or is the truth just not a good look for Donald...

[IkieBikie]

I refuse to brainwash myself with it - There is a difference, but keep praying to your Idol.

What Akzle?? He's not up for election is he??

[IkieBikie]

What more red rep - Those Akzle supporters are out there aren't they

[Virago]

I see today's frenzy is about Clinton's "resting face", which is apparently too scowly. Not very attractively feminine...

No mention of Trump's resting face, which is similar to a road accident.

Damn that MSM bias...

[Madness]

What more red rep - Those Akzle supporters are out there aren't they

Perhaps the member who just gave you red rep just got tired of what could be perceived as you constantly whinging about Axzle? Maybe, just maybe they thought "this bitch needs a root" and they thought that a red (like a rose :love:) rep was a nice discreet manner of delivering the message?

Just putting it out there.

[IkieBikie]

Perhaps the member who just gave you red rep just got tired of what could be perceived as you constantly whinging about Axzle? Maybe, just maybe they thought "this bitch needs a root" and they thought that a red (like a rose) rep was a nice discreet manner of delivering the message?

Just putting it out there.

you keep putting it out there. Bet your getting nothing but your right hand!

[Madness]

*You're

A LONG TIME DEAD!! ENJOY LIFE WHILE YOU HAVE IT!

:yawn:

[Ocean1]

Is it demonstrably inaccurate? Or is the truth just not a good look for Donald...

From what I've seen it just an astonishing proclivity to convey as few facts as possible with as many words as possible.

Bonus points for multiple paraphrasing of the actual headline. In fact most of the time the article utterly fails to expand on the first sentence.

[YellowDog]

HOW TO HACK AN ELECTION (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-elections-russia-hack-how-to-hack-an-election-in-seven-minutes-214144) in just 7 minutes.

[PrincessBandit]

I see today's frenzy is about Clinton's "resting face", which is apparently too scowly. Not very attractively feminine...

No mention of Trump's resting face, which is similar to a road accident.

Damn that MSM bias...

I would rather have my Resting Bitch Face any day over the orange clown makeup Trump wears.

[Katman]

I would rather have my Resting Bitch Face any day over the orange clown makeup Trump wears.

Well that Bitch Face might just be capable of taking us all even further into the abyss.

I seriously don't think Mr Clown Face Trump would even come close to matching her skills in that department.

[PrincessBandit]

Well that Bitch Face might just be capable of taking us all even further into the abyss.

I seriously don't think Mr Clown Face Trump would even come close to matching her skills in that department.

Possibly. At the end of the day their appearance isn't going to be the hallmark of either ones presidency.

(I'm just glad I'm not American and having to cast a vote).

[Hemi Makutu]

I would rather have my Resting Bitch Face any day over the orange clown makeup Trump wears.

You wish he'd 'put you up' at Trump towers, even if Viagra was needful, just so's you could sext/sell it now..

[PrincessBandit]

You wish he'd 'put you up' at Trump towers, even if Viagra was needful, just so's you could sext/sell it now..

Are you stalking me?

[Katman]

(I'm just glad I'm not American and having to cast a vote).

If the majority of Americans had half a brain they'd give their vote to Jill Stein.

Sadly, I forsee the up coming result as being a reflection of the average American's mental capacity.

[bogan]

If the majority of Americans had half a brain they'd give their vote to Jill Stein.

Sadly, I forsee the up coming result as being a reflection of the average American's mental capacity.

I think you'll (provided your sources are unbiased enough to cover this sort of detail) find her policy and grasp of governmental workings quite lacking, not so much as Trump, but more so than Hilary.

[Katman]

I think you'll (provided your sources are unbiased enough to cover this sort of detail) find her policy and grasp of governmental workings quite lacking, not so much as Trump, but more so than Hilary.

I couldn't give a fuck.

At least she's not sucking Zionist cock.

[bogan]

I couldn't give a fuck.

At least she's not sucking Zionist cock.

:killingme that's you in a nutshell init, who gives a fuck about reality and rational evaluation, when you can go with today's conspiracy theory.

That response right there katman, is what makes you just as much of a fucking joke as yokel.

[Katman]

:killingme that's you in a nutshell init, who gives a fuck about reality and rational evaluation, when you can go with today's conspiracy theory.

Are you saying that she hasn't publicly stated that she would attack Iran on Israel's behalf if she became President?

And on the other hand, I haven't heard Jill Stein state that she plans to attack any country.

Clearly you and I just have different aspirations for the world.

[jasonu]

Is it demonstrably inaccurate? Or is the truth just not a good look for Donald...

Slanted. If/when DT does/says something stupid or new damming info comes to light you hear about it in the headlines ALL FUCKING WEEK. If HC does/says something stupid or new damming info comes to light you will hear about it maybe once after the commercial break then never again.
Don't get me wrong, I don't care who wins as long as it isn't that lying cheating conniving thieving cunt Hillary. When she gets in it will be Aunty Helen on steroids and we all know how she fucked NZ.

[jasonu]

, I haven't heard Jill Stein state that she plans to attack any country.

.

Most people haven't heard Jill Stein state anything...

[Voltaire]

Most people haven't heard Jill Stein state anything...

Thats what happens with a two horse system that runs on big money masquerading as democracy.

It has to be the most bizarre election system in the world, upper and lower houses, separate elections for a president and so on.

I tried watching what they call football once too......

[PrincessBandit]

Thats what happens with a two horse system that runs on big money masquerading as democracy.

Like National and Labour? (except without the same big bucks)

[Woodman]

Are you saying that she hasn't publicly stated that she would attack Iran on Israel's behalf if she became President?

And on the other hand, I haven't heard Jill Stein state that she plans to attack any country.

Clearly you and I just have different aspirations for the world.


You said "are you saying".:nya::nya::nya::nya::nya:

[Voltaire]

Like National and Labour? (except without the same big bucks)

Pre MMP yes.

MMP would be interesting in the US, with all the different ethnic groups.

[oldrider]

Thats what happens with a two horse system that runs on big money masquerading as democracy.

It has to be the most bizarre election system in the world, upper and lower houses, separate elections for a president and so on.

I tried watching what they call football once too......

True! - Two utterly below standard candidates presented and they actually have the world debating them rather than condemning and rejecting them? :shit:

That is truly the more frightening aspect of this whole fiasco! :facepalm:

It is so obvious that there exists a shadow governing power and the presidential elect is but a puppet on their strings!

If that makes/condemns me as a conspiracy theorist - so be it - a mantel I am happy to wear with pride! :shifty:

[jasonu]

I saw someone (cant remember who) on the tv the other night say HC is the luckiest US presidential candidate ever. Had ANY one of the other Republican nominee hopefuls won the party nomination above Trump she wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell of becoming president.

[Katman]

It is so obvious that there exists a shadow governing power and the presidential elect is but a puppet on their strings!

Yes indeed.

http://theantimedia.org/fbi-docs-shadow-government-investigation/

[Voltaire]

Yes indeed.

http://theantimedia.org/fbi-docs-shadow-government-investigation/

Wow a non MSM packed full of clickbait.

So how does one determine the truth on the net, most references, least KKK members, most BBC accent?:innocent:

[Katman]

Wow a non MSM packed full of clickbait.

How is that any different to the ad breaks during the 6 o'clock news?

[Woodman]

Wow a non MSM packed full of clickbait.

So how does one determine the truth on the net, most references, least KKK members, most BBC accent?:innocent:

The truth will be what suits their agenda. Thing is they go looking for news that suits their agenda, then get a skewed view of the world then any news that doesn't suit their agenda is msm. :brick:

[pritch]

To quote a Commandant of a WW2 POW Camp, " you think I know damn nothing.....well I know damn all"

Actually that is more probably a version of the quote from David Niven's book, "Bring On The Empty Horses".
From memory, during the shooting of a movie there was to be a scene requiring riderless horses, the Hungarian director called out, "Bring on the empty horses". Whereupon Niven and Flynn started laughing.
Annoyed, the director vented, "You think I know fuck nothing, but let me tell you I know fuck all".

[Voltaire]

Actually that is more probably a version of the quote from David Niven's book, "Bring On The Empty Horses".
From memory, during the shooting of a movie there was to be a scene requiring riderless horses, the Hungarian director called out, "Bring on the empty horses". Whereupon Niven and Flynn started laughing.
Annoyed, the director vented, "You think I know fuck nothing, but let me tell you I know fuck all".

I've learn't before I post stuff up here I do a Google Check :banana:, as the the nitpicking force is strong here with the remaining few.;)

" you can't believe all you read on the internet" Shakespear.

[Virago]

" you can't believe all you read on the internet" Shakespear.

Was that Olivia Shakespear (British novelist and playwright), or Richmond Shakespear (British Indian Army officer)?

(Obviously not William Shakespeare).

[TheDemonLord]

Was that Olivia Shakespear (British novelist and playwright), or Richmond Shakespear (British Indian Army officer)?

(Obviously not William Shakespeare).

Definitiely Richmond - the British Indian army were notorious for their insightful internet quotes.

[bogan]

Slanted. If/when DT does/says something stupid or new damming info comes to light you hear about it in the headlines ALL FUCKING WEEK. If HC does/says something stupid or new damming info comes to light you will hear about it maybe once after the commercial break then never again.
Don't get me wrong, I don't care who wins as long as it isn't that lying cheating conniving thieving cunt Hillary. When she gets in it will be Aunty Helen on steroids and we all know how she fucked NZ.

Occam's razor again, Donald's drivel is simply much worse than Hilary's. Or to put it another way, pick the worst thing you heard about either of them in that last month and compare it for severity (and accuracy, obviously).


Are you saying that she hasn't publicly stated that she would attack Iran on Israel's behalf if she became President?

And on the other hand, I haven't heard Jill Stein state that she plans to attack any country.

Clearly you and I just have different aspirations for the world.

Or perhaps I am just referring to her current policy... rather than old quotes taken out of context.

[Woodman]

Occam's razor again, Donald's drivel is simply much worse than Hilary's. Or to put it another way, pick the worst thing you heard about either of them in that last month and compare it for severity (and accuracy, obviously).



Or perhaps I am just referring to her current policy... rather than old quotes taken out of context.

You don't have to be the best, just the least worst. Its a statement I use quite a lot.

[Katman]

You don't have to be the best, just the least worst. Its a statement I use quite a lot.

I'm sure it's a rule you live by.

[Woodman]

I'm sure it's a rule you live by.

It has its place.........

[jasonu]

You don't have to be the best, just appear to be the least worst.



It's what will win this one...

[Brian d marge]

Have a look at what is coming out of wiki leaks....

sent for a divine source

[yokel]

The Don is right again, the (s)election is and will be rigged.
Bet you won't hear bout this in the blindly submissive Clinton media.


http://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY

The Don is the fucking mam!


http://youtu.be/5KEAJ5qxFJw

[Hemi Makutu]

Dude needs bulk meds - stat..

[yokel]

Have a look at what is coming out of wiki leaks....

sent for a divine source

Isn't funny whitch wiki leaks the MSM chooses to 'enlighten' the masses with?

And they're still going on about the Trump tapes, they're extremely fucking desperate.

[pete376403]

Russian fake e-mail cited by Trump:
http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

[Brian d marge]

The Americans are looking for the bay of Tonkin in the dover channel... All they need is the Russian Navy ...... Oh wait

sent for a divine source

[Brian d marge]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161019/4e4d77bf3b22771f46da18f9bc57eac1.jpg

Just saying

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[YellowDog]

This well spoken fellow presents his perspective quite well :yes:

<iframe width="850" height="485" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/akttzkLTgTM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Virago]

I would put the third debate as more evenly matched.

Trump seems to have found some more focused debating skills. Although he wandered off at tangents occasionally, there was less of the incoherent rambling. He still needs to find some new material - his "no-one respects women more than me" line doesn't become any more true with ad nauseam repetition.

Clinton needed to stop answering every question with a slightly hesitant "Well..." - it made her sound defensive rather than decisive.

[YellowDog]

I would put the third debate as more evenly matched.

Trump seems to have found some more focused debating skills. Although he wandered off at tangents occasionally, there was less of the incoherent rambling. He still needs to find some new material - his "no-one respects women more than me" line doesn't become any more true with ad nauseam repetition.

Clinton needed to stop answering every question with a slightly hesitant "Well..." - it made her sound defensive rather than decisive.

Trump lost again just showed himself to be a novice. He made some good points that HC simply ignored and just quoted his inappropriate behaviours. He couldn't cope with this. He had her on the rails 2 or 3 times and she just continued, without answering. Everything she said to him, he answered and hence wasted valuable slagging off time. He just doesn't know how to play this game.

The area where he should have had the biggest advantage, was on the Economy. HC is going to dig a hole and bury the country. DT is going to dig a larger hole. Nice one Don - you don't have a clue :no

[yokel]

The moment where Trump slaughtered Hillary was when the mod yet again brought up Trump 'inappropriate comments' about hoes and where did these accusers come from.

And after that, dumb cunt Hillary started going on about the violence at Trump's rallies.

Unfucking believable!


http://youtu.be/oZxQRzE81eY

[YellowDog]

The moment where Trump slaughtered Hillary was when the mod yet again brought up Trump 'inappropriate comments' about hoes and where did these accusers come from.

And after that, dumb cunt Hillary started going on about the violence at Trump's rallies.

Unfucking believable!


http://youtu.be/oZxQRzE81eY

Granted, he did handle that one well :niceone:

[Brian d marge]

Not one mentioned the emails , or wikileaks ....at this point one realises they are on the same side

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-19/wikileaks-releases-another-1803-podesta-emails-part-12-data-dump-total-now-18953

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[Woodman]

Why doesn't one of them just be the bigger man and ignore all the childish reality tv shit and only talk about their policies?

[Brian d marge]

Why doesn't one of them just be the bigger man and ignore all the childish reality tv shit and only talk about their policies?
They can't
First they would have done research into how and why it sells
To whom it sells to
Second they are not there to actually fix or do anything that's already been decided years ago
It's all smoke and mirrors ...
The real action is two or three levels up ..and that plan is going well ..nothing to report there
If ya trawl through wikileaks they actually refer to themselves as the shadow government
It's the biggest con you are ever seeing


sent for a divine source

[mashman]

Not one mentioned the emails , or wikileaks ....at this point one realises they are on the same side

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-19/wikileaks-releases-another-1803-podesta-emails-part-12-data-dump-total-now-18953

sent for a divine source

Is Assange pan breed?

[Voltaire]

Why doesn't one of them just be the bigger man and ignore all the childish reality tv shit and only talk about their policies?

You may recall years ago at Smoko breaks guys used to discuss politics, these days it more likely who got voted off Survivor or what the Car Dash iens are wearing/not wearing.
The swinging voter is too dumb to decide by reading, needs to have it on the TV.
This is why you have the pathetic circus that is the US Elections.

[jasonu]

You may recall years ago at Smoko breaks guys used to discuss politics, these days it more likely who got voted off Survivor or what the Car Dash iens are wearing/not wearing.
The swinging voter is too dumb to decide by reading, needs to have it on the TV.
This is why you have the pathetic circus that is the (insert any democracy based country name here) Elections.

erp4wogjitgwredesh

[yokel]

If they're able to steel the win, will the whites 'chimpout'? Haha


http://youtu.be/U7x6A9BiPLw

More on the 'bird-dogging'.
It really give some context to Hillary's slogan 'fighting for us'.


http://youtu.be/aOq_Y_oUayA

[R650R]

You may recall years ago at Smoko breaks guys used to discuss politics.....

Actually it still happens at our workplace... but there and other places its more of a fashion choice than a meaningful discussion.
People like to attach themselves to who they think is the winning team, eg all blacks supporters, warriors er not the warriors etc lol...
It was the same with Obama, people were like awwww ohhhh a successful black guy, hes going to save america.... what has he really done...

At our highly unionised workplace people loudly support Labour no matter what their policies might mean for our industry of the greater good of the country and livign standards etc Never mind that the business has grown massively under 6-9? years of john key (love or hate him)....

Remember when people never used to care about USa elections, it was barely news here. Now its just part of the entertainment fodder called news. And the media is full of opinion pieces instead of actual unbiased reporting.
One thing thats not ebing noticed, is what do you call a country political system when there is only two actual voting choices and the media is saying only vote for this guy. Where people get ridiculed for supporting a particular candidate...
Aside from Obama if hillary clinton gets in it will be 30 years of two families running america....

I dont care about the outcome as the POTUS is never really in charge, but Trump is the only one who has said what he will do to change or fix the country. Hillary is the status quo puppet for the war hungry corporates that have USa in debt to 14 trillion, over extended military campaigns, mass poverty and unemployment...

You have to ask why was Trump the medias darling with that dragon den tv show and other stuff and now suddenly he is a woman groping nutter? With americas libel alws why has none ever chased this rich man, it would be an easy out of court big payoff....

[R650R]

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/bestdemocracy

and also interesting.... http://www.gregpalast.com/trump-13-losers-behind/ trump not who he seems either....

[Brian d marge]

Actually it still happens at our workplace... but there and other places its more of a fashion choice than a meaningful discussion.
People like to attach themselves to who they think is the winning team, eg all blacks supporters, warriors er not the warriors etc lol...
It was the same with Obama, people were like awwww ohhhh a successful black guy, hes going to save america.... what has he really done...

At our highly unionised workplace people loudly support Labour no matter what their policies might mean for our industry of the greater good of the country and livign standards etc Never mind that the business has grown massively under 6-9? years of john key (love or hate him)....

Remember when people never used to care about USa elections, it was barely news here. Now its just part of the entertainment fodder called news. And the media is full of opinion pieces instead of actual unbiased reporting.
One thing thats not ebing noticed, is what do you call a country political system when there is only two actual voting choices and the media is saying only vote for this guy. Where people get ridiculed for supporting a particular candidate...
Aside from Obama if hillary clinton gets in it will be 30 years of two families running america....

I dont care about the outcome as the POTUS is never really in charge, but Trump is the only one who has said what he will do to change or fix the country. Hillary is the status quo puppet for the war hungry corporates that have USa in debt to 14 trillion, over extended military campaigns, mass poverty and unemployment...

You have to ask why was Trump the medias darling with that dragon den tv show and other stuff and now suddenly he is a woman groping nutter? With americas libel alws why has none ever chased this rich man, it would be an easy out of court big payoff....

............
follow their bloodlines back, as far as I know ALL go back to the Carolinians

[YellowDog]

Noone on any side likes this guy :no:

POLITICAL DIRECTOR QUITS (http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/donald-trumps-national-political-director-steps-back-from-the-campaign/ar-AAjcMhU?li=BBv6TfA&ocid=spartandhp)

[oldrider]

Why have we got this ridiculous poitical situation in America? - Challenge yourself to watch and understand this simple video clip!

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[Voltaire]

Was entertaining enough in a used car delivery sort of way until he became a Global Warming denier by saying the world had cooled down for the last 16 years..... typical conspiracy theory videos where they think you buy into all their crap.:yes:

Oh and he's a Radio Show Host..... like Mike Hosking :tugger:.....oh and Anti Zionist....imagine that.

[YellowDog]

Was entertaining enough in a used car delivery sort of way until he became a Global Warming denier by saying the world had cooled down for the last 16 years..... typical conspiracy theory videos where they think you buy into all their crap.:yes:

Oh and he's a Radio Show Host..... like Mike Hosking :tugger:.....oh and Anti Zionist....imagine that.

BUT it's a fact AND there are lots of them !!!!

If man wasn't warming the planet, we'd now be in an ice age and Polar Bears would be raping our women :yawn:

[oldrider]

Was entertaining enough in a used car delivery sort of way until he became a Global Warming denier by saying the world had cooled down for the last 16 years..... typical conspiracy theory videos where they think you buy into all their crap.:yes:

Oh and he's a Radio Show Host..... like Mike Hosking :tugger:.....oh and Anti Zionist....imagine that.

Fair enough but how else is anyone going to package it so that everyone is happy - it's bad news and that is only controlled and digested by the receiver! :rolleyes: :sleep: :oi-grr:

The adage - "Shoot the messenger" - Springs to mind! :ar15:

[YellowDog]

The Panama Papers is a subject supporters of the Clintons don't seem to want to discuss.

Knocking over the WTC solved most of their problems, before the Mossack Fonseca thing.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-panama-papers-could-hand-bernie-sanders-the-keys-to-the-white-house-a6969481.html

[Katman]

Was entertaining enough in a used car delivery sort of way until he became a Global Warming denier by saying the world had cooled down for the last 16 years..... typical conspiracy theory videos where they think you buy into all their crap.

I'm always amused by the stupidity of people who think that if they can find one tiny aspect of an argument that they disagree with (particularly when that one aspect is actually unrelated to the subject of discussion) that it gives them the ability to blindly dismiss everything else that's said.

[Woodman]

I'm always amused by the stupidity of people who think that if they can find one tiny aspect of an argument that they disagree with (particularly when that one aspect is actually unrelated to the subject of discussion) that it gives them the ability to blindly dismiss everything else that's said.

Are you saying you are stupid?

[Voltaire]

I'm always amused by the stupidity of people who think that if they can find one tiny aspect of an argument that they disagree with (particularly when that one aspect is actually unrelated to the subject of discussion) that it gives them the ability to blindly dismiss everything else that's said.

I'm amused that you think anyone cares what you think :laugh:

[TheDemonLord]

Are you saying you are stupid?

Post of the fucking year

[Hemi Makutu]

I'm amused that you think anyone cares what you think :laugh:

I care that you're amused by such a cheaply ironic self-misrepresentation..

( but in stating that, I was being sarcastic, in case anyone cares).

[Voltaire]

I care that you're amused by such a cheaply ironic self-misrepresentation..

( but in stating that, I was being sarcastic, in case anyone cares).

No one even cares to out you as JAW either.:yawn:

[Hemi Makutu]

No one even cares to out you as JAW either.:yawn:

& you are Johnny umm.. somefink..

[oldrider]

Old habits die hard it seems: http://www.globalresearch.ca/rigged-elections-are-an-american-tradition/5552347 Democracy - in America? :no: ----- :corn:

[Brian d marge]

& you are Johnny umm.. somefink..

Good old spata , from memory , they resisted the greek money, Kinda like the petro dollar and Gadaffi in this day and age. They wanted to issue money based on production rather than debt.

and the boys , took offence and one day on deely plaza ......

oh wait , that was 2000 yrs ago ......

[Hemi Makutu]

Ai, & Crassus (by name & nature) - just like Bush, bit off more than he could chew, by arrogance in the desert wastes..

With his gold poured down his throat, for good measure..

[Brian d marge]

Ai, & Crassus (by name & nature) - just like Bush, bit off more than he could chew, by arrogance in the desert wastes..

With his gold poured down his throat, for good measure..
Islay single malt...... Pure gold
What a way to go

sent for a divine source

[Akzle]

steve wins this thread. fuck off home the lottaya.

[Woodman]

steve wins this thread. fuck off home the lottaya.

Who the fuck is steve, and when was it declared a race?

[Voltaire]

Who the fuck is steve, and when was it declared a race?

And back to the studio :lol:
http://memeshappen.com/media/created/Steve--meme-55074.jpg

[yokel]

Well after seeing the crock of shit coverage on 'news' hub the other night, I thought message one of their so called journalist with the following.

'Hey when are you mainstream media muppets going to cover what's actually going on with the presidential elections? Eg the project veritas videos'

And the response was 'what are those videos?'

To which I replied, 'Did you not watch the debate?'


https://youtu.be/WUDWTJeSmSc

What a useless cunt.

[husaberg]

Well after seeing the crock of shit coverage on 'news' hub the other night, I thought message one of their so called journalist with the following.

'Hey when are you mainstream media muppets going to cover what's actually going on with the presidential elections? Eg the project veritas videos'

And the response was 'what are those videos?'

To which I replied, 'Did you not watch the debate?'

https://youtu.be/WUDWTJeSmSc

What a useless cunt.

ESP now along with the antigravity balls........

[Woodman]

Well after seeing the crock of shit coverage on 'news' hub the other night, I thought message one of their so called journalist with the following.

'Hey when are you mainstream media muppets going to cover what's actually going on with the presidential elections? Eg the project veritas videos'

And the response was 'what are those videos?'

To which I replied, 'Did you not watch the debate?'


https://youtu.be/WUDWTJeSmSc

What a useless cunt.


You do realise this isn't pointless drivel don't you? The best way to tell is that it is all pink.

[oldrider]

Always with his own take Brother Nate's comments are usually interesting if nothing else: :corn:

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[Brian d marge]

Always with his own take Brother Nate's comments are usually interesting if nothing else: :corn:



Im not 100% convinced "its the Jews , aka the Kazakh Zionist Mafia ) , yes they are certainly movers and shakers but just one of the bigger Mafia groups. Li family setting themselves up to be a force soon ( inho)
The Jesuits are running Rome for a few years now , and our favourite "crypto Jews" running Rome’s finances. The questions arise then ; are Whom is running the Jesuits , another group ? the Medici ?( or one or more of the families in Europe ,)? or another single person ? . OR an outer world identity ? or its just what happens when random events synchronise?

one has to wonder.

EITHER way nowt I can do about it , just keep me head down , learn as much as I can , and start to step back and let the evil fkers ( and the sheep) head into the Orwellian Hunger games .

ALL IMHO

[Brian d marge]

one of the best Donald trump speeches ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnpTWKKWQ1o

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[husaberg]

Why not his last speech where he justifies the killing of millions of innocent men women and children.
To prevent the evil of the JEWs.
Love his use of the Sheep have you seen others that also enjoy prepetuating racist hate use that term on KB before?

When was a helpless goose ever not eaten by the fox because she was constitutionally
incapable of harboring aggressive designs? And when has a wolf ever reformed and become a
pacifist because sheep do not wear armor? If there are still bourgeois states who earnestly believe
this, that only proves how necessary it was to do away with an era that by its educational system
managed to cultivate and maintain such notions, nay, even granted them political influence.
Thereupon Judaism began systematically to undermine our nation from within, and it
found its best ally in those narrow-minded bourgeoisie who would not recognize that the era of a
bourgeois world is ended and will never again return.
The Kremlin Jews are motivated only by tactical considerations; whether in one case they act with immediate brutality or, in another case, with
some reticence, the result will always be the same.

[YellowDog]

You guys have been a great help. Even though I am not entitled to vote, this changes nothing at all!

I decided a long time back that I just could not ever vote for HC (not Helen Clark, the other HC). Her and her husband are as corrupt as shit and the Clinton Foundation donations, for the ear of the US Government thing, is just a bit too much to stomach. The emails scandal and having a public and a private opinion, for the purpose of gaining votes, is appalling.

My vote would have gone to DT, but for the fact that he doesn't have a clue about how deal with his fellow humas beings, or how to run an economy. DT, no one likes you. Take the hint and f#ckoff.

So my final decision is that I will not be voting for either, even though I couldn't anyway.

OK, now that's dealt with, it's time to move on. Thanks for all of yourt help guys, I could have got there without you.

[Woodman]

You guys have been a great help. Even though I am not entitled to vote, this changes nothing at all!

I decided a long time back that I just could not ever vote for HC (not Helen Clark, the other HC). Her and her husband are as corrupt as shit and the Clinton Foundation donations, for the ear of the US Government thing, is just a bit too much to stomach. The emails scandal and having a public and a private opinion, for the purpose of gaining votes, is appalling.

My vote would have gone to DT, but for the fact that he doesn't have a clue about how deal with his fellow humas beings, or how to run an economy. DT, no one likes you. Take the hint and f#ckoff.

So my final decision is that I will not be voting for either, even though I couldn't anyway.

OK, now that's dealt with, it's time to move on. Thanks for all of yourt help guys, I could have got there without you.

Seriously? this thread was helpful?:shutup:

[Brian d marge]

Why not his last speech where he justifies the killing of millions of innocent men women and children.
To prevent the evil of the JEWs.
Love his use of the Sheep have you seen others that also enjoy prepetuating racist hate use that term on KB before?


The fight against this Jewish Asiatic bolshevism had been raging long before National
Socialism came into power.

We must be reading different speeches , I cant see where he justifies killing millions esp Jewish , but he clearly knew WHO was the trouble makers were ...., wall street ( jEWISH ) funded Bolsheviks , WHO in the leadership were....?

you are correct in saying "killing of millions of innocent men women and children." yes they are the real victims , but the perpetrators comes from the west ,,,,,' ( ENGLAND...who through america , classic Venetian politics), causes such misery .

I think Hitler was an experiment that backfired on them , so they try again ........THIS time they call it

Democratic socialism is a political ideology that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production, often with an emphasis on democratic management of enterprises within a socialist economic system.

Text of Hitlers last speech as far as I know ;

https://archive.org/stream/AdolfHitlerLastRadioSpeechJan301945/AdolfHilterLastRadioSpeechJan301945_djvu.txt

https://archive.org/stream/AdolfHitlerLastRadioSpeechJan301945/AdolfHilterLastRadioSpeechJan301945_djvu.txt



(https://archive.org/stream/AdolfHitlerLastRadioSpeechJan301945/AdolfHilterLastRadioSpeechJan301945_djvu.txt)

[YellowDog]

Seriously? this thread was helpful?:shutup:

A huge help :yes:

I always considered HC to be a crook and in the pockets of others, right back from her 'I don't want these people pawing through our records', way back in Bill's day. She is of zero integrity and parades conflicting public and private images. He whom pays the piper............. She's happy to take the cash and to hell with everything else.

BUT IMO - Trump is a far more dangerous a character. He's a novice in a tough world and he is on his own with no support from those experienced enought to put him right.

If Homer Simpson stood now, as an indenedent, he would win :yes:

HOMER, HOMER, HOMER .....................................

[husaberg]

We must be reading different speeches , I cant see where he justifies killing millions esp Jewish , but he clearly knew WHO was the trouble makers were ...., wall street ( jEWISH ) funded Bolsheviks , WHO in the leadership were....?

you are correct in saying "killing of millions of innocent men women and children." yes they are the real victims , but the perpetrators comes from the west ,,,,,' ( ENGLAND...who through america , classic Venetian politics), causes such misery .

Text of Hitlers last speech as far as I know ;



https://archive.org/stream/AdolfHitlerLastRadioSpeechJan301945/AdolfHilterLastRadioSpeechJan301945_djvu.txt

(https://archive.org/stream/AdolfHitlerLastRadioSpeechJan301945/AdolfHilterLastRadioSpeechJan301945_djvu.txt)


not have become the victim of this Jewish international world plot. Such
reasoning would amount to a reversal of all laws of nature.

When was a helpless goose ever not eaten by the fox because she was constitutionally
incapable of harboring aggressive designs? And when has a wolf ever reformed and become a
pacifist because sheep do not wear armor?
https://archive.org/stream/AdolfHitlerLastRadioSpeechJan301945/AdolfHilterLastRadioSpeechJan301945_djvu.txt


Brian if you honestly believe if he was only against "the wall street jews", why then did he feel it was a necessity to kill millions of Polish jews?

[Voltaire]

Brian if you honestly believe if he was only against the wall street jews why did he feel it was a necessity to kill millions of Polish jews?

Hitler had even less idea how to run a country/war that Donald Trump.
There are few recordings of old Dolfie doing anything other than ranting.
Here is one recorded covertly in Finland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClR9tcpKZec

[Brian d marge]

Brian if you honestly believe if he was only against the wall street jews why did he feel it was a necessity to kill millions of Polish jews?
Bolsheviks? I'm not in a position to give u in depth answer
But again we come back to work camps ..yes ..main stream propaganda... no

sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

Bolsheviks? I'm not in a position to give u in depth answer
But again we come back to work camps ..yes ..main stream propaganda... no

sent for a divine source

You are avoiding the very real question there.

As for the work camps cop out
why were the numerous other numerous non jew polish and Hungarian, Slavs etc etc etc not targeted to be used in these, as you describe work camps
Why the Ghetto holding areas?
Its very simple, Hilter and his cronies hated all jews and gypies (other than it seems Hitlers family doctor)
85% of the people deported and killed at Auschwitz were jews. Yet Jews were at most 10% of the population
The next highest percentage deported and killed at Auschwitz is 10.8% non jewsish poles.
There was 3,474,000 jewsh people in Poland in 1939 out of a population of 34,775,000.

[Hemi Makutu]

You are avoiding the very real question there.

As for the work camps cop out
why were the other non jew polish used in these as you describe work camps

Its very simple, Hilter and his cronies hated all jews (other than it seems Hitlers family doctor)


Do try & give it a bit of basic thought..

The Nazi regime was absolutist, & merciless to its perceived enemies...
The Churchill blockade meant that once the Hess mission failed, millions of 'useless mouths' in
Eastern Europe would be up for the chop. The Allies knew this full well too.

Even ol' Adolf knew that the likelihood of holding off the military forces of the R.o.W. was slim-to-none,
& once the Allies had publicly stated that he was up for 'goneburgers', then it was utterly predictable what
he'd do with those 'enemies' still in his power, while he had the means.

& he was at least, frank & open about it, unlike Stalin & his Western cronies..

[oldrider]

You are avoiding the very real question there.

As for the work camps cop out
why were the numerous other numerous non jew polish and Hungarian, Slavs etc etc etc not targeted to be used in these, as you describe work camps
Why the Ghetto holding areas?
Its very simple, Hilter and his cronies hated all jews and gypies (other than it seems Hitlers family doctor)

Chillin with the shill - :rolleyes:

[husaberg]

Chillin with the shill - :rolleyes:

Funny, considering you are the one that constantly posts unsolicited racial propaganda.

[YellowDog]

It's a relief to know that the democratic process will reveal the true victor and that the election is not rigged in any way shape or form:

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[oldrider]

Funny, considering you are the one that constantly posts unsolicited racial propaganda.

There is a rule that only solicited subjects can be posted on KB? - now that response is "funny" :lol: (Sigh - it takes all types.) :rolleyes:

[Hemi Makutu]

Funny, considering you are the one that constantly posts unsolicited racial propaganda.

Fe factor: 100%

[Brian d marge]

You are avoiding the very real question there.

As for the work camps cop out
why were the numerous other numerous non jew polish and Hungarian, Slavs etc etc etc not targeted to be used in these, as you describe work camps
Why the Ghetto holding areas?
Its very simple, Hilter and his cronies hated all jews and gypies (other than it seems Hitlers family doctor)
85% of the people deported and killed at Auschwitz were jews. Yet Jews were at most 10% of the population
The next highest percentage deported and killed at Auschwitz is 10.8% non jewsish poles.
There was 3,474,000 jewsh people in Poland in 1939 out of a population of 34,775,000.
All of what you say is true

If you use the norm and don't question. But once u start questioning things don't stack up

I'm not avoiding any questions. I'm just cannot give it justice due to time

Hence all from memory , any you know how bad that is

Mr H knew before the war that Russia would have to be attacked.. that was a no trainer
Think about it , if the Russians were bunkered down in defensive mode ..how far would the Germans have got

They ,,the Russians were set up along the eastern front in offensive mode. And Stalin's propensity for shooting generals or any one who disagreed was well know
Not a lot were shot after the eastern front losses
One wonders why? It was Russia that was on the offensive,

I mean war 101 , ya dont fight on two fronts it weakens ur army .....
I thinks Mr H expected Britain not to be such a problem ....
Oops

No , we are being conned about the whole war ...

And the American sideshow is just history repeating

Finally. Zionist Kazakh mafia are not Jewish..so when I talk about this I must make it clear. The Jewish people the average Joe were victims, but this victim card has been exploited by an evil bunch of so and so's

People who can fire bomb cologne..yet leave the precision ball bearing factory, 5 km away untouched





sent for a divine source

[oldrider]

Clinton’s “No-Fly Zone” over Syria Will Not “Save Lives”. It Will Lead to War with Russia. Warning of JCS Chairman General Dunford

http://www.globalresearch.ca/clintons-no-fly-zone-over-syria-will-not-save-lives-it-will-lead-to-war-with-russia-warning-of-jcs-chairman-general-dunford/5552480 Self righteous self styled USA world police arrogance knows no bounds! :sick:

[Brian d marge]

Clinton’s “No-Fly Zone” over Syria Will Not “Save Lives”. It Will Lead to War with Russia. Warning of JCS Chairman General Dunford

http://www.globalresearch.ca/clintons-no-fly-zone-over-syria-will-not-save-lives-it-will-lead-to-war-with-russia-warning-of-jcs-chairman-general-dunford/5552480 Self righteous self styled USA world police arrogance knows no bounds! :sick:
Said that

Only Putins cleverness is saving us at the moment

And that can't last

sent for a divine source

[husaberg]

Mr H knew before the war that Russia would have to be attacked.. that was a no brainer
Think about it , if the Russians were bunkered down in defensive mode ..how far would the Germans have got
He had been forwarned by the allies he chose to ignore it.
He had always intended to attack Russia it was spelled out years previously.

“We want to halt pointless German crushing in south and west of Europe and we point our finger to the territory that lies in the west. We completely break our past colonial and trade policy and deliberately turn to acquiring new lands in Europe. We can only consider Russia and its neighboring countries.mein-kampf/
Nice rewrite of History, only they were not massed in any mode which is why the Germans made such inroads so quickly
325269

the Russians were not prepared for a war, they were barely out of the stone age

They ,,the Russians were set up along the eastern front in offensive mode. And Stalin's propensity for shooting generals or any one who disagreed was well know
Not a lot were shot after the eastern front losses
One wonders why? It was Russia that was on the offensive,
He could not shoot all his generals, as he clearly needed them and had already purged far too many.



I mean war 101 , ya dont fight on two fronts it weakens ur army .....
I thinks Mr H expected Britain not to be such a problem ....
Oops

War on two fronts is over simplication, he desperately needed oil and land for crops. Plus vast amounts of raw materials the Ukraine had this in abundance
He also expected the poms to sign a treaty join him in the fight against the evil bolshies.
He was also delusional megalomaniac.
Henry A. Murray, former director of the Harvard Psychological Clinic
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evil-deeds/201412/how-mad-was-hitler
Next you will be saying that Poland invaded Germany as well.
Ps i think prior to invading Russia he was already fighting on two fronts.
North Africa home of the oil as well.


The oil production of Middle East was not exceptional, but would have been of great help for the Axis (that was mostly based on Rumanian oil: 7,153,000 t in 1937 and 6,603,000 in 1938). Instead for the Allies it was pretty irrilevant (USA oil production of 1937: 172,866,000 t).
This was the oil production in metric tons of Middle East countries in 1937, 1938 and 1946:
Iran: 10,331,000 10,359,000 19,189,000
Iraq: 4,255,000 4,272,000 4,476,000
Bahrein: 1,062,000 n.a. n.a.
Kuwait: oil has been found by an American company, but production had not yet started in 1939. Production of 1946: 800,000 t.
Saudi Arabia: first drillings in the Hasa region; a port was under construction in 1939 in Ras Tanura (N-W of Bahrein) for the transport of the oil production of Hasa. Probable presence of oil in the Red Sea in front of Tihama (in Asir), islands Farsan, El Daba and Hueigh (both in Hejaz). Production of 1946: 8,200,000 t.
Qatar: none.
Oman: none.
Coast of Pirates (United Arab Emirates): none.
Syria and Lebanon: none.
Palestina: none.
Transjordania: none.
(sources: "Calendario Atlante De Agostini. 1940 XVIII" and "Calendario Atlante De Agostini. XX Secolo")


Finally. Zionist Kazakh mafia are not Jewish..so when I talk about this I must make it clear. The Jewish people the average Joe were victims, but this victim card has been exploited by an evil bunch of so and so's

People who can fire bomb cologne..yet leave the precision ball bearing factory, 5 km away untouched

Cologne was simply easier to target it was bigger, remember it was night bombing.
Also it was where the workers from the factory lived, callous but effective.

[Hemi Makutu]

I'll bet one of ol' uncle Vlad's favourite shows is 'The Sopranos'..
esp' the ep' where Tony leans on the Congressman & Token-type Afro-'merican politicians to send
'da niggas' around to roust out the crack heads, so's they can pillage the place..

Oh, yeah, & the one with the Ruski ex-Spetsnaz dude, who, even as a spent drunken fool has no
real difficulty making monkeys out of the US Mafioso 'made guy' turkeys.. its fucken funny-as

[oldrider]

Said that - Only Putins cleverness is saving us at the moment and that can't last

Russian/Syrian progress against Western (USA) backed terrorism to date: :corn:

Video: Evaluating Russia’s Counter-Terrorism Military Campaign In Syria: Sep. 30, 2015 – Oct. 20, 2016 -: http://www.globalresearch.ca/video-evaluating-russias-counter-terrorism-military-campaign-in-syria-sep-30-2015-oct-20-2016/5552465

[Hemi Makutu]

He was also delusional megalomaniac.

Ps i think prior to invading Russia he was already fighting on two fronts.


Cologne was simply easier to target it was bigger, remember it was night bombing.
Also it was where the workers from the factory lived, callous but effective.


Ha, funny ol' husas thinks he's a Dr now, after not long ago - bagging some bastard for Dx sans Q's...

Nightbombing was effective, it provided Speer with much needed aircraft quality scrap...

& it bankrupted Blighty at the same time.. as well as openly blotting their moral copybook,
- at least Butch Harris was honest & open about that, even if Churchill tried to 'rat' his way out..

[Voltaire]

Do try & give it a bit of basic thought..

The Nazi regime was absolutist, & merciless to its perceived enemies...
The Churchill blockade meant that once the Hess mission failed, millions of 'useless mouths' in
Eastern Europe would be up for the chop. The Allies knew this full well too.

Even ol' Adolf knew that the likelihood of holding off the military forces of the R.o.W. was slim-to-none,
& once the Allies had publicly stated that he was up for 'goneburgers', then it was utterly predictable what
he'd do with those 'enemies' still in his power, while he had the means.

& he was at least, frank & open about it, unlike Stalin & his Western cronies..

best you stick to wanking on about 2 stroke engines.:yawn:

[Brian d marge]

best you stick to wanking on about 2 stroke engines.:yawn:
Hmmm 2 strokes .....mongo like 2 strokes

sent for a divine source

[Brian d marge]

He had been forwarned by the allies he chose to ignore it.
He had always intended to attack Russia it was spelled out years previously.
Nice rewrite of History, only they were not massed in any mode which is why the Germans made such inroads so quickly
the Russians were not prepared for a war, they were barely out of the stone age

He could not shoot all his generals, as he clearly needed them and had already purged far too many.



War on two fronts is over simplication, he desperately needed oil and land for crops. Plus vast amounts of raw materials the Ukraine had this in abundance
He also expected the poms to sign a treaty join him in the fight against the evil bolshies.
He was also delusional megalomaniac.
Next you will be saying that Poland invaded Germany as well.
Ps i think prior to invading Russia he was already fighting on two fronts.
North Africa home of the oil as well.



Cologne was simply easier to target it was bigger, remember it was night bombing.
Also it was where the workers from the factory lived, callous but effective.
I'll leave you with this for the time being
During the Nazi offensive on the eastern front, German soldiers discover the mass graves of some of the 22,000 Polish military officers and intelligentsia who were murdered and then buried in mass graves in the Katyn Forest by the Soviets in 1940. The insidious Allies knew their “gallant Soviet ally” was a mass murderer but kept quiet about it. When it could no longer be kept hidden from the public they then tried to blame the atrocity on the Germans!

sent for a divine source

[Hemi Makutu]

best you stick to wanking on about 2 stroke engines.:yawn:

Your 'advice', as usual.. serves no purpose.. except to display your sour 'tude..

So, best you have a good hot greasy curry, to get your juices warmed up, eh joker..

[Voltaire]

Your 'advice', as usual.. serves no purpose.. except to display your sour 'tude..

So, best you have a good hot greasy curry, to get your juices warmed up, eh ..

Correct, but really an endless thread about a 2 horse race of which neither of the candidates are really liked by the US population.
If I had to choose a curry to go with this it would be either a Chicken Korma or a Butter Chicken as both are lacking imagination.
Warming juices with a Talisker.
Plonker from Towel Wronger will be along with some stupid videos soon :niceone:

[husaberg]

I'll leave you with this for the time being
During the Nazi offensive on the eastern front, German soldiers discover the mass graves of some of the 22,000 Polish military officers and intelligentsia who were murdered and then buried in mass graves in the Katyn Forest by the Soviets in 1940. The insidious Allies knew their “gallant Soviet ally” was a mass murderer but kept quiet about it. When it could no longer be kept hidden from the public they then tried to blame the atrocity on the Germans!

sent for a divine source
No person denies the Russians were not also guilty of their own atrocities.
The Germans were well aware of mass graves being found of both their own ad the Germans.
Which is why they devoted so much resources into digging up mass graves and burning the remains
Sonderaktion 1005 or Aktion 1005


https://www.google.co.nz/#q=aktion+1005

Ps why would the russians attack Germany they were giving a whiping by the poles and had to be bailed out by the Germans.

[Hemi Makutu]

Correct, but really an endless thread about a 2 horse race of which neither of the candidates are really liked by the US population.
If I had to choose a curry to go with this it would be either a Chicken Korma or a Butter Chicken as both are lacking imagination.
Warming juices with a Talisker.
Plonker from Towel Wronger will be along with some stupid videos soon :niceone:

No argument there, but then the whitebread/whitemeat fixated 'mericans have never really got into curry,
- unless Tex-Mex is their substitute, like baseball for cricket..

I'm having a blisterin' man o' war Portuguese red wine 'n' tomato type Vindaloo myself, & sweatin' at the prospect..

[Hemi Makutu]

No person denies the Russians were not also guilty...

Ps why would the russians attack Germany they were giving a whiping by the poles and had to be bailed out by the Germans.

Actually Putin does deny such 'guilt', & the masses back him..

How can you not know that Stalin directed that Soviet military doctrine was predicated on pre-emptive strikes?
It was the Finlanders who taught him to not go off 1/2 cocked..

&,

You are so wrong about the "whiping" - it was the NKVD & GRU who did the wiping, while Churchill studiously ignored it.
Same goes for his take-over of the Baltic states shortly thereafter, too..
Ol' uncle Joe hadn't forgotten the bloody nose he'd received from the Poles in the `20s, & yeah, he was one - to hold a grudge..

[TheDemonLord]

Im not 100% convinced "its the Jews , aka the Kazakh Zionist Mafia ) , yes they are certainly movers and shakers but just one of the bigger Mafia groups. Li family setting themselves up to be a force soon ( inho)
The Jesuits are running Rome for a few years now , and our favourite "crypto Jews" running Rome’s finances. The questions arise then ; are Whom is running the Jesuits , another group ? the Medici ?( or one or more of the families in Europe ,)? or another single person ? . OR an outer world identity ? or its just what happens when random events synchronise?

one has to wonder.

EITHER way nowt I can do about it , just keep me head down , learn as much as I can , and start to step back and let the evil fkers ( and the sheep) head into the Orwellian Hunger games .

ALL IMHO

I'd just like to draw attention to this post:

"I don't know whom, but I'm certain that they are"

[Brian d marge]

I'd just like to draw attention to this post:

"I don't know whom, but I'm certain that they are"
Shudddup ... I don't know for 100 %.... Bit I'm pretty convinced ....

But thanks for the repost ....

sent for a divine source

[TheDemonLord]

Shudddup ... I don't know for 100 %.... Bit I'm pretty convinced ....

But thanks for the repost ....

sent for a divine source

That's my point....


I don't know for 100 %.... Bit I'm pretty convinced

[Brian d marge]

That's my point....
And that's my point

sent for a divine source

[Hemi Makutu]

Nice rewrite of History, only they were not massed in any mode which is why the Germans made such inroads so quickly
the Russians were not prepared for a war, they were barely out of the stone age


He was also delusional megalomaniac.
Henry A. Murray, former director of the Harvard Psychological Clinic
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evil-deeds/201412/how-mad-was-hitler
Next you will be saying that Poland invaded Germany as well.
Ps i think prior to invading Russia he was already fighting on two fronts.
North Africa home of the oil as well.



1, Check out Dr T. Morell, who pushed a bunch of 'speed-ball' type drugs on ol' Adolf..
The opinions of academics who never met him, & do not note the Rx used ( not the scope of Psychologists)
is of limited value.

2, 'Stone age'? Doubt it.. Soviet T-34/KV-1 tanks in 1941 were Fe age, at least..

3, Med/Africa was one ( limited involvement) front, where was the 2nd?

3a, No significant level of crude oil production was happening in North Africa prior to, or during WW II...

[yokel]

You are avoiding the very real question there.

As for the work camps cop out
why were the numerous other numerous non jew polish and Hungarian, Slavs etc etc etc not targeted to be used in these, as you describe work camps
Why the Ghetto holding areas?
Its very simple, Hilter and his cronies hated all jews and gypies (other than it seems Hitlers family doctor)
85% of the people deported and killed at Auschwitz were jews. Yet Jews were at most 10% of the population
The next highest percentage deported and killed at Auschwitz is 10.8% non jewsish poles.
There was 3,474,000 jewsh people in Poland in 1939 out of a population of 34,775,000.

More Holocaust 'maths'
The Holocaust is just like the ' weapons of mass destruction' a complete load of shit .

Back to the selection.

Your typical unhinged hypocrite retard Hillary supporter.


https://youtu.be/kDFZv3gxbZw

[bogan]

http://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/rich.png?t=FA3E6A

[yokel]

You guys have been a great help. Even though I am not entitled to vote, this changes nothing at all!

I decided a long time back that I just could not ever vote for HC (not Helen Clark, the other HC). Her and her husband are as corrupt as shit and the Clinton Foundation donations, for the ear of the US Government thing, is just a bit too much to stomach. The emails scandal and having a public and a private opinion, for the purpose of gaining votes, is appalling.

My vote would have gone to DT, but for the fact that he doesn't have a clue about how deal with his fellow humas beings, or how to run an economy. DT, no one likes you. Take the hint and f#ckoff.

So my final decision is that I will not be voting for either, even though I couldn't anyway.

OK, now that's dealt with, it's time to move on. Thanks for all of yourt help guys, I could have got there without you.

Going by your anti Hillary and Trump reasoning Trump is the clear winner.

This is no surprise as Trump is the superior candidate over Hillary by a bigly margin.

Mind you two short planks would be a superior candidate over Hillary.

[Brian d marge]

More Holocaust 'maths'
The Holocaust is just like the ' weapons of mass destruction' a complete load of shit .

Back to the selection.

Your typical unhinged hypocrite retard Hillary supporter.


https://youtu.be/kDFZv3gxbZw
The video was better
Color and stormin Norman




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[husaberg]

More Holocaust 'maths'
The Holocaust is just like the ' weapons of mass destruction' a complete load of shit .

Back to the selection.

Your typical unhinged hypocrite retard Hillary supporter.

Yeah you mean the bullshit that there were no WMD found in iraq
http://op-talk.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/who-was-right-about-w-m-d-s-in-iraq/?_r=0
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2010/12/11/wikileaks-on-iraqi-wmd/
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/bombshell-new-york-times-reports-wmds-found-iraq/
https://theintercept.com/2015/04/10/twelve-years-later-u-s-media-still-cant-get-iraqi-wmd-story-right/
Pretty sure i would rate the New York times over your ESP and antigravity balls and cgi WTC plane crash effects.
every post of yours and oldies reminds me of this.

“Plant the knowledge in the young people that the Jews are destroying all of mankind. Teach the children to have a healthy hatred and anger. Tell the children that he drove the Jews out with a whip. Provoke that hatred!” Julius Streicher-

He shouted "Heil Hitler" as he was led up the steps to the gallows. Then he shouted: "The Bolsheviks will hang you all next. Jewish holiday! Jewish holiday, 1946! Now it goes to God."

[Voltaire]

1, Check out Dr T. Morell, who pushed a bunch of 'speed-ball' type drugs on ol' Adolf..
The opinions of academics who never met him, & do not note the Rx used ( not the scope of Psychologists)
is of limited value.

2, 'Stone age'? Doubt it.. Soviet T-34/KV-1 tanks in 1941 were Fe age, at least..

3, Med/Africa was one ( limited involvement) front, where was the 2nd?

3a, No significant level of crude oil production was happening in North Africa prior to, or during WW II...

T34's were a great tank, sloped armor, wide tracks, alloy diesel engine, 76mm gun...well thats how my Airfix ones were.
From memory Hitlers favorite tank designer ( another mistake) Ferdinand Porsche said something like " Das ist gu, lets just make these instead of those useless Tigers and Panthers"

German tanks were too complicated and they took too long to make them.

Simple Question: why ask simple questions at the end of each thread :clap:

[Hemi Makutu]

T-34s were shit in reality, nasty death traps, & diesel burned real hot.

Panzerwaffe was a skills-based arm, & survival of crews was a priority, unlike Soviet doctrine.

Cold war-wise, the West copied the Panther/Tiger approach.. quality 1st, & it was a correct call.

[oldrider]

Russia Has Proof: Vladimir Putin Threatens to Publish Details of Secret NATO, Belgian Bombing Raids in Syria:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-has-proof-vladimir-putin-threatens-to-publish-details-of-secret-nato-belgian-bombing-raids-in-syria/5552149?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles Meanwhile the world MSM continues to beat up on Russia as the aggressor! :doh:

[Brian d marge]

T-34s were shit in reality, nasty death traps, & diesel burned real hot.

Panzerwaffe was a skills-based arm, & survival of crews was a priority, unlike Soviet doctrine.

Cold war-wise, the West copied the Panther/Tiger approach.. quality 1st, & it was a correct call.
but the battle of kutzk was won by , shit load of T34 ,,actually just shitloads
The german panzer brigade
like English soccer , to full of unreliable prima donas ,

[Brian d marge]

Russia Has Proof: Vladimir Putin Threatens to Publish Details of Secret NATO, Belgian Bombing Raids in Syria:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-has-proof-vladimir-putin-threatens-to-publish-details-of-secret-nato-belgian-bombing-raids-in-syria/5552149?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles Meanwhile the world MSM continues to beat up on Russia as the aggressor! :doh:

When asked the other day , if the US wont support the attack on Isis , what would russia think , Putins answer , " they can get stuffed !"

[Voltaire]

T-34s were shit in reality, nasty death traps, & diesel burned real hot.

Panzerwaffe was a skills-based arm, & survival of crews was a priority, unlike Soviet doctrine.

Cold war-wise, the West copied the Panther/Tiger approach.. quality 1st, & it was a correct call.

apples with apples chap.
The other "allies" produced Shermans and the British ones are barely worth a mention...ok Churchills, Matlidas and later on the Comet ( which was quite good).
Post war they had " the bomb" so could spend more on quality.
Probably find out soon when that bitch Clinton has finished buying/bullying her way to the top.
Will the Spanish fuel up the Russian Fleet.... probably.
Will the Turks put boots on the ground in Iraq/Syria?
Will the Chinese take over the South China Sea?
Will Yokel keep posting up stupid video clips?

[Katman]

Corrupt to the core.

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[Hemi Makutu]

but the battle of kutzk was won by , shit load of T34 ,,actually just shitloads
The german panzer brigade
like English soccer , to full of unreliable prima donas ,


Myth.. the T-34s at Kursk burned in bulk, like hot-cakes in the care of a paralytic drunk.

It was the Soviet anti-tank defence-in-depth, plus ol' Adolf losing his nerve when the West just then invaded Sicily,
& so he sent his SS Panzers West to stiffen the deal, same thing happened again at D-day, & let the Soviets off the hook..

[YellowDog]

HC is about to be disqualified :o

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[oldrider]

Hey Here comes old Bro Bernard with some more gems on Trump! - What is he saying? and who is he referring too? - Will they just shoot him or what? :corn:

Interesting stuff? - or just interesting stuff! :shifty:

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[Woodman]

Corrupt to the core.

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Citations needed......

[yokel]

apples with apples chap.
The other "allies" produced Shermans and the British ones are barely worth a mention...ok Churchills, Matlidas and later on the Comet ( which was quite good).
Post war they had " the bomb" so could spend more on quality.
Probably find out soon when that bitch Clinton has finished buying/bullying her way to the top.
Will the Spanish fuel up the Russian Fleet.... probably.
Will the Turks put boots on the ground in Iraq/Syria?
Will the Chinese take over the South China Sea?
Will Yokel keep posting up stupid video clips?

Well they only appear to be stupid if you're mainstream media mushroom that's fed a constant stream of mostly bullshit.


https://youtu.be/4Q714fz3Cu4

[Brian d marge]

Citations needed......
https://youtu.be/cNZKUozrBl4

I'm sure they will be provided

sent for a divine source

[bogan]

Well they only appear to be stupid if you're mainstream media mushroom that's fed a constant stream of mostly bullshit.

What about the parts in your videos which are demonstrably bullshit? How has the MSM done that? Or do the MSM make the CTSM videos too, just so they can insert stupidity to make stupid people look stupid :scratch:

[Brian d marge]

apples with apples chap.
The other "allies" produced Shermans and the British ones are barely worth a mention...ok Churchills, Matlidas and later on the Comet ( which was quite good).
Post war they had " the bomb" so could spend more on quality.
Probably find out soon when that bitch Clinton has finished buying/bullying her way to the top.
Will the Spanish fuel up the Russian Fleet.... probably.
Will the Turks put boots on the ground in Iraq/Syria?
Will the Chinese take over the South China Sea?
Will Yokel keep posting up stupid video clips?
Poncing around the battlefield in a tank called Matilda ....
Oh great ,
Churchill wasn't much better , even more of a hopeless drunk than me

sent for a divine source

[yokel]

Yeah you mean the bullshit that there were no WMD found in iraq
http://op-talk.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/who-was-right-about-w-m-d-s-in-iraq/?_r=0


You should try reading your own links,
eg the third paragraph.

[Brian d marge]

Yeah you mean the bullshit that there were no WMD found in iraq
http://op-talk.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/who-was-right-about-w-m-d-s-in-iraq/?_r=0
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2010/12/11/wikileaks-on-iraqi-wmd/
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/bombshell-new-york-times-reports-wmds-found-iraq/
https://theintercept.com/2015/04/10/twelve-years-later-u-s-media-still-cant-get-iraqi-wmd-story-right/
Pretty sure i would rate the New York times over your ESP and antigravity balls and cgi WTC plane crash effects.
every post of yours and oldies reminds me of this.


He shouted "Heil Hitler" as he was led up the steps to the gallows. Then he shouted: "The Bolsheviks will hang you all next. Jewish holiday! Jewish holiday, 1946! Now it goes to God."
Late last week, Ukraine’s parliament passed a declaration which officially condemned the Soviet Union for the outbreak of WWII, and rejected the post-war order which was established in 1945. In effect, lawmakers have unwittingly opened a Pandora’s Box to Polish territorial revisionism.

Between 1919-1921, the newly independent Polish Republic and Communist Russia waged a war across Polish, Belarusian and Ukrainian territory; the war started after Warsaw saw its chance to regain its former imperial glory; Moscow, meanwhile hoped to export its communist revolution to Germany. The war ended in 1921 after the Battle of Warsaw, when the Bolshevik government sued for peace.’

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[husaberg]

You should try reading your own links,
eg the third paragraph.

Unlike you I read and I understood the whole article, rather than just trying to wilfully misinterpret small details that suit my agenda.
They had WMD, case closed, STFU, or are you unable to comprehend this basic fact? that’s rhetorical btw, as of course you can't.

[oldrider]

Forget the messenger and think about the message and it's consequences for a moment!


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Further reaction different messenger same subject!

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RT Cross talk on the subject:

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Sooner or later someone will fly and Russia will retaliate - and the shit will hit the fan - for the world? - not a good look! :bye:

[Brian d marge]

Unlike you I read and I understood the whole article, rather than just trying to wilfully misinterpret small details that suit my agenda.
They had WMD, case closed, STFU, or are you unable to comprehend this basic fact? that’s rhetorical btw, as of course you can't.
Where were they even George had a hard time finding them

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[Voltaire]

Well they only appear to be stupid if you're mainstream media mushroom that's fed a constant stream of mostly bullshit.


I'd have to watch several hours of 6 o'clock news to get as much bullshit as you find Stew.:lol:

[Brian d marge]

Forget the messenger and think about the message and it's consequences for a moment!


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Further reaction different messenger same subject!

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RT Cross talk on the subject:

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Sooner or later someone will fly and Russia will retaliate - and the shit will hit the fan - for the world? - not a good look! :bye:
Reminds me of a Eurovision song back in the day I think from our cilla

Went along the lines of ...boom Banga bang ....

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[husaberg]

Late last week, Ukraine’s parliament passed a declaration which officially condemned the Soviet Union for the outbreak of WWII, and rejected the post-war order which was established in 1945. In effect, lawmakers have unwittingly opened a Pandora’s Box to Polish territorial revisionism.

Between 1919-1921, the newly independent Polish Republic and Communist Russia waged a war across Polish, Belarusian and Ukrainian territory; the war started after Warsaw saw its chance to regain its former imperial glory; Moscow, meanwhile hoped to export its communist revolution to Germany. The war ended in 1921 after the Battle of Warsaw, when the Bolshevik government sued for peace.’

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Whilst that may be true (the Ukrainians made a declaration)
The two parties are not exactly great mates at the moment. There is clear agendas in goading and mudthrowing towards each other
Also using your logic the Armenian genocide never happened because Turkey still denies it.

[Hemi Makutu]

Poncing around the battlefield in a tank called Matilda ....
Oh great ,
Churchill wasn't much better , even more of a hopeless drunk than me

sent for a divine source

Well, that was Adolf's view of WSC..

To be fair, ol' wine-gut Winnie got away with murder, not a bad feat, even for a 'born-to-rule' shithead..
& he lived to 95 y/o, pretty impressive for such a tobacco-hazed habitual juice freak..

Helped to be able to carry out such a boast along the lines of ..

"History will be kind to me, 'cause I'm writing it.. "

As for the 'Matlida' tank, not proof aginst 88's sure enough, yet it did well in the hands of the AIF in New Guinea,
where the Nippon opposition found 'er ah, hard to penetrate - with the puny weapons they had to hand..

& esp' feared it when those Aussie bastards got a high-pressure flame thrower on board,
& commenced to doing the 'dragon-breath'/'throw another shrimp on the barbie' routine..

[Brian d marge]

Whilst that may be true (the Ukrainians made a declaration)
The two parties are not exactly great mates at the moment. There is clear agendas in goading and mudthrowing towards each other
Also using your logic the Armenian genocide never happened because Turkey still denies it.
Hang on a min we still haven't annexed Poland yet

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[husaberg]

Hang on a min we still haven't annexed Poland yet

sent for a divine source
Annex, its hardy big enough for a conservatory.

[Brian d marge]

Well, that was Adolf's view of WSC..

To be fair, ol' wine-gut Winnie got away with murder, not a bad feat, even for a 'born-to-rule' shithead..
& he lived to 95 y/o, pretty impressive for such a tobacco-hazed habitual juice freak..

Helped to be able to carry out such a boast along the lines of ..

"History will be kind to me, 'cause I'm writing it.. "

As for the 'Matlida' tank, not proof aginst 88's sure enough, yet it did well in the hands of the AIF in New Guinea,
where the Nippon opposition found 'er ah, hard to penetrate - with the puny weapons they had to hand..

& esp' feared it when those Aussie bastards got a high-pressure flame thrower on board,
& commenced to doing the 'dragon-breath'/'throw another shrimp on the barbie' routine..

Are you sure you ain't got that arse about face

As in I found the Nippon opposition hard to penetrate ...esp at my age

90 ...damn drinking shitload must be good for me after all

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[Woodman]

Well they only appear to be stupid if you're mainstream media mushroom that's fed a constant stream of mostly bullshit.


https://youtu.be/4Q714fz3Cu4

What about the bullshit you get fed?

Then regurgitate ad nauseam.

[Hemi Makutu]

Are you sure you ain't got that arse about face

As in I found the Nippon opposition hard to penetrate ...esp at my age

90 ...damn drinking shitload must be good for me after all

sent for a divine source


Fair call, but maybe do a bit of hands-on/digital finessing, for those dainty ones..
lessing maybe she's a 'super-freak' - who requests/requires a hard-as dry insertion attempt,
in which case, she can provide you with the fluff/4-play/V-gra..

[yokel]

Unlike you I read and I understood the whole article, rather than just trying to wilfully misinterpret small details that suit my agenda.
They had WMD, case closed, STFU, or are you unable to comprehend this basic fact? that’s rhetorical btw, as of course you can't.

No they fucking well didn't you numb skull.

[Hemi Makutu]

...the Armenian genocide never happened because Turkey still denies it.

But, didn't you know, ol' Adolf knew it to be so, from German sources, & thought, 'Hey why not, if needs must'...

[Woodman]

No they fucking well didn't you numb skull.

How do you know?

[husaberg]

No they fucking well didn't you numb skull.

Well If you say so:lol:


In his investigative article, Mr. Chivers discusses the gradual discovery of thousands of chemical weapons, including warheads and shells containing mustard gas and sarin, by American and Iraqi troops after the 2003 United States invasion of the country.


Just because they clearly and obiviously found them doesn't mean you have to agree that they actually exist. Because that would imply you can use math and logic dashed with common sense.
After all Antigravity balls and CGI plane crashes shape shifting lizards aliens you find highly believable and credible.

[yokel]

Well If you say so:lol:




Just because they clearly and obiviously found them doesn't mean you have to agree that they actually exist. Because that would imply you can use math and logic dashed with common sense.
After all Antigravity balls and CGI plane crashes shape shifting lizards aliens you find highly believable and credible.

Seen as my stink tablet won't let me cut&paste, how about you paste up the next paragraph.

[Katman]

Seen as my stink tablet won't let me cut&paste, how about you paste up the next paragraph.

That wouldn't suit his agenda.

But I'll do it for him.


The weapons were not part of massive, active stockpiles that the United States set out to destroy by waging a war that would last eight years, take thousands of lives and leave Iraq in chaos. They were “remnants of long-abandoned programs, built in close collaboration with the West,” Mr. Chivers writes.

I'm helpful like that.

[jasonu]

HC is about to be disqualified :o

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Yep she's a total cunt. I wish D.T. would punch her right in the face. His popularity would likely increase if he did...

[YellowDog]

I suspect that once the American people read this thread, in its entirity, and consider all of the evidence presented by our expert commentators; I have no doubt that common sense will prevail.

I am so honoured to have been able to contribute and that we have had so much influence upon the eventual outcome :niceone:

I wonder if Donald Trump will replace "God bless America", with "God bless Kiwibiker" ?

[oldrider]

I suspect that once the American people read this thread, in its entirity, and consider all of the evidence presented by our expert commentators; I have no doubt that common sense will prevail.

I am so honoured to have been able to contribute and that we have had so much influence upon the eventual outcome :niceone:

I wonder if Donald Trump will replace "God bless America", with "God bless Kiwibiker" ?

True indeed! :lol:

The adage springs to mind: "If you can't lick em - join em"! ... I am sure they will show their appreciation by accepting us with open arms! (no pun intended) :grouphug:

[Brian d marge]

True indeed! [emoji38]

The adage springs to mind: "If you can't lick em - join em"! ... I am sure they will show their appreciation by accepting us with open arms! (no pun intended) :grouphug:
We already are so far up the American arse ..
If you have ever been to Hawaii , you swear you are in auckland
And if the neocons say jump ... Wellington doesnt even ask how high ... Just does it
At least with uncle Donald , he will bomb the shit out of em
Our piece of crap , golum worm tongue .... Is just a slimey embarrassment


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[husaberg]

Seen as my stink tablet won't let me cut&paste, how about you paste up the next paragraph.

You keep posting there was no WMD, Yet clearly there was, whether there was 1 found or a thousand found there was WMD found. To say there was no WMD found is totally incorrect.

[Woodman]

You keep posting there was no WMD, Yet clearly there was, whether there was 1 found or a thousand found there was WMD found. To say there was no WMD found is totally incorrect.

He read on the internets that there were none so it must be true because the internets isn't msm, even though it is.

[Hemi Makutu]

You keep posting there was no WMD, Yet clearly there was, whether there was 1 found or a thousand found there was WMD found. To say there was no WMD found is totally incorrect.


Was it a 'Tsar bomba' - a massive thermonuclear device?

If not, & there was only one, it likely aint gonna be able to do 'mass destruction', is it, eh fella...

[bogan]

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And thus concludeth the thread...

[husaberg]

He read on the internets that there were none so it must be true because the internets isn't msm, even though it is.
Yeah i wonder where old yokel picked up that Katmanism
http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/quote-if-you-tell-a-lie-big-enough-and-keep-repeating-it-people-will-eventually-come-to-believe-joseph-goebbels-83-20-28-e1452410295892.jpg



No, you're not getting it.
The whole point of the mathematics is to confirm the fact that the building fell at freefall.
NIST fudged their figures to try hiding that fact.
As I've said, a building pancaking one floor at a time would not fall at freefall speed.


Why did NIST try to cover up the fact that Building 7 fell at freefall speed Ed?


And yet you're happy to believe that the failure of a single column can bring an entire building down uniformly at freefall speed?


We could swap links all day Ed but I'm more interested in your answer to the question - is it bollocks that Building 7 fell at freefall speed or bollocks that NIST tried to hide that fact?


You still haven't answered the question Ed.
Was it bollocks that the building fell at freefall speed or bollocks that NIST tried to hide that fact?


So if they're not very good at their job why would anyone accept their theory that the failure of one single supporting column could bring a building down uniformly at freefall speed?


So do you buy the story that Building 7 fell at freefall speed into it's own footprint due to some office fires?


Why not stay with Building 7?
Yet it collapsed uniformly at freefall speed straight down into it's footprint.
Demolition experts could only hope for as good an outcome.

Then he finally later aknowledgement, he is clearly wrong


Why would anyone use a point somewhere along the front parapet when the point that Chandler used is at the very corner - a point so precise you could stick a pin into the exact spot.
From the time that precise spot starts to move downward until it disappears from view is not 5.4 seconds.
The mathematics show that that precise point moves almost exactly at freefall.
Here's another one for you to look at.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml_n5gJgQ_U


The point is that the videos show conclusively that the building fell at almost exactly freefall.
A building pancaking one floor at a time would not have fallen that fast.

[Hemi Makutu]

Yeah i wonder where old yokel picked up that Katmanism


Yeah, ok, Trump's running with his playbook, but that aint working so good, for you here though, eh husa..

[yokel]

You keep posting there was no WMD, Yet clearly there was, whether there was 1 found or a thousand found there was WMD found. To say there was no WMD found is totally incorrect.

You're complete fucking moron that can't read and has no idea what the context of the phrase 'weapons of mass destruction' in regards to the Iraq war.

How old where you when the yanks were pealing out the 'weapons of mass destruction' propaganda?

[yokel]

That wouldn't suit his agenda.

But I'll do it for him.



I'm helpful like that.

Nice try, shame he's so incredibly stupid.
Maybe pasting the text to a brick and slamming it in his face would be helpful?

[Brian d marge]

Was it a 'Tsar bomba' - a massive thermonuclear device?

If not, & there was only one, it likely aint gonna be able to do 'mass destruction', is it, eh fella...
Eh big Ivan .... I saw a movie called that

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[Katman]

Then he finally later aknowledgement, he is clearly wrong

You truly are a retarded fuck.

[husaberg]

You truly are a retarded fuck.
You must be confusing me for the guy that harped on for years and years that the WTC buildings fell at freefall into their own footprints both totally incorrect statements, whilst hoping no one would notice.
Or maybe the guy that begs guys to suck his cock, Now that guys a real retard.:2thumbsup


You're complete fucking moron that can't read and has no idea what the context of the phrase 'weapons of mass destruction' in regards to the Iraq war.

How old where you when the yanks were pealing out the 'weapons of mass destruction' propaganda?

They had WMD, no amount of your posturing or rhetoric will change that.


In all, American troops secretly reported finding roughly 5,000 chemical warheads, shells or aviation bombs, according to interviews with dozens of participants, Iraqi and American officials, and heavily redacted intelligence documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2002/11/08/raw-data-text-resolution-on-iraq.html


From 1991 to 1995, the Iraqi regime said it had no biological weapons. After a senior official in its weapons program defected and exposed this lie, the regime admitted to producing tens of thousands of liters of anthrax and other deadly biological agents for use with Scud warheads, aerial bombs, and aircraft spray tanks. U.N. inspectors believe Iraq has produced two to four times the amount of biological agents it declared, and has failed to account for more than three metric tons of material that could be used to produce biological weapons. Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
United Nations’ inspections also revealed that Iraq likely maintains stockpiles of VX, mustard and other chemical agents, and that the regime is rebuilding and expanding facilities capable of producing chemical weapons. …
In 1991, Iraq promised U.N. inspectors immediate and unrestricted access to verify Iraq’s commitment to rid itself of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles. Iraq broke this promise, spending seven years deceiving, evading, and harassing U.N. inspectors before ceasing cooperation entirely. Just months after the 1991 cease-fire, the Security Council twice renewed its demand that the Iraqi regime cooperate fully with inspectors, condemning Iraq’s serious violations of its obligations. The Security Council again renewed that demand in 1994, and twice more in 1996, deploring Iraq’s clear violations of its obligations. The Security Council renewed its demand three more times in 1997, citing flagrant violations; and three more times in 1998, calling Iraq’s behavior totally unacceptable. And in 1999, the demand was renewed yet again.


UNSC resolution 687
3 April 1991
12-1-2
Formal ceasefire ending the Persian Gulf War, with the conditions that Iraq:
Destroys all of its chemical and biological weapons and all ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 km;
Agrees not to develop nuclear weapons;
Submits a declaration of its weapons programs and voluntarily agrees to on-site inspections.

UNSC resolution 707
15 August 1991
Demands immediate, complete, full compliance with UNSCR 687

UNSC resolution 1060
12 June 1996
Unanimous
Demands Iraq allow access to sites, weapons, transport and equipment by United Nations Special Commission weapons inspectors.

UNSC resolution 1441
8 November 2002
Unanimous
Gave Iraq "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations". After Hans Blix of UNMOVIC reported to the UN on 7 March 2003, the US, UK, and other members of the "coalition of the willing" declared that Iraq remained in material breach of resolution 687. Efforts aimed at a new Council resolution authorizing the invasion were aborted owing to resistance from other members of the Council including veto-wielding members. Iraq was invaded anyway, on 20 March.

[Woodman]

Please don't start the 9/11 debate again. Its a non issue.:brick:

[Hemi Makutu]

Please don't start the 9/11 debate again. Its a non issue.:brick:

Hasn't Trump said he'd reopen that festering abscess - yet?

[husaberg]

Please don't start the 9/11 debate again. Its a non issue.:brick:

Surely, Its the same shapeshiting lizard men behind it all, Floride, chemtrails, Antigravity balls, Big Pharma, vaccines, Katmans homosexual fantasies, CGI planes, Gun control.

[Brian d marge]

Surely, Its the same shapeshiting lizard men behind it all, Floride, chemtrails, Antigravity balls, Big Pharma, vaccines, Katmans homosexual fantasies, CGI planes, Gun control.
You will be agreeing with me soon



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[Brian d marge]

You must be confusing me for the guy that harped on for years and years that the WTC buildings fell at freefall into their own footprints both totally incorrect statements, whilst hoping no one would notice.
Or maybe the guy that begs guys to suck his cock, Now that guys a real retard.:2thumbsup



They had WMD, no amount of your posturing or rhetoric will change that.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/2002/11/08/raw-data-text-resolution-on-iraq.html



UNSC resolution 687
3 April 1991
12-1-2
Formal ceasefire ending the Persian Gulf War, with the conditions that Iraq:
Destroys all of its chemical and biological weapons and all ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 km;
Agrees not to develop nuclear weapons;
Submits a declaration of its weapons programs and voluntarily agrees to on-site inspections.

UNSC resolution 707
15 August 1991
Demands immediate, complete, full compliance with UNSCR 687

UNSC resolution 1060
12 June 1996
Unanimous
Demands Iraq allow access to sites, weapons, transport and equipment by United Nations Special Commission weapons inspectors.

UNSC resolution 1441
8 November 2002
Unanimous
Gave Iraq "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations". After Hans Blix of UNMOVIC reported to the UN on 7 March 2003, the US, UK, and other members of the "coalition of the willing" declared that Iraq remained in material breach of resolution 687. Efforts aimed at a new Council resolution authorizing the invasion were aborted owing to resistance from other members of the Council including veto-wielding members. Iraq was invaded anyway, on 20 March.
Im the fella who is selling u the three legged donkey
And producing the advertisement for said donkey, er racehorse
What's the chances of their being a fourth leg in one of me pictures



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[husaberg]

Im the fella who is selling u the three legged donkey
And producing the advertisement for said donkey, er racehorse
What's the chances of their being a fourth leg in one of me pictures



sent for a divine source
i will trade your Racehorse/donkey for the bridge yokel wants to buy off me.

[nzspokes]

That wouldn't suit his agenda.

But I'll do it for him.



I'm helpful like that.

What a coincidence you are always online the same time as Yokel......

[Katman]

What a coincidence you are always online the same time as Yokel......

It's a conspiracy.

[Voltaire]

Oh no....you quoted Fox News...... MSM Stewart will be along soon with lots of video clips....:facepalm:

[Brian d marge]

i will trade your Racehorse/donkey for the bridge yokel wants to buy off me.
I've sold it to ocean
Do keep up ...

Have a new opportunity, opening up soon with a bridge between Wellington and Sydney
I'm open to any investment
[emoji8]

sent for a divine source

[Virago]

Reminds me of a Eurovision song back in the day I think from our cilla

Went along the lines of ...boom Banga bang ....

'Twas Lulu.

[husaberg]

I've sold it to ocean
Do keep up ...

Have a new opportunity, opening up soon with a bridge between Wellington and Sydney
I'm open to any investment
[emoji8]

sent for a divine source

Shirley Yokels antigravity balls have made that obsolete or is "BIG BRIDGES" trying to hide the technology we could power the cars with Katmans alternative energy If big oil ever let it out.

[yokel]

You must be confusing me for the guy that harped on for years and years that the WTC buildings fell at freefall into their own footprints both totally incorrect statements, whilst hoping no one would notice.
Or maybe the guy that begs guys to suck his cock, Now that guys a real retard.:2thumbsup



They had WMD, no amount of your posturing or rhetoric will change that.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/2002/11/08/raw-data-text-resolution-on-iraq.html



UNSC resolution 687
3 April 1991
12-1-2
Formal ceasefire ending the Persian Gulf War, with the conditions that Iraq:
Destroys all of its chemical and biological weapons and all ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 km;
Agrees not to develop nuclear weapons;
Submits a declaration of its weapons programs and voluntarily agrees to on-site inspections.

UNSC resolution 707
15 August 1991
Demands immediate, complete, full compliance with UNSCR 687

UNSC resolution 1060
12 June 1996
Unanimous
Demands Iraq allow access to sites, weapons, transport and equipment by United Nations Special Commission weapons inspectors.

UNSC resolution 1441
8 November 2002
Unanimous
Gave Iraq "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations". After Hans Blix of UNMOVIC reported to the UN on 7 March 2003, the US, UK, and other members of the "coalition of the willing" declared that Iraq remained in material breach of resolution 687. Efforts aimed at a new Council resolution authorizing the invasion were aborted owing to resistance from other members of the Council including veto-wielding members. Iraq was invaded anyway, on 20 March.

"The weapons were not part of massive, active stockpiles that the United States set out to destroy by waging a war that would last eight years, take thousands of lives and leave Iraq in chaos. They were “remnants of long-abandoned programs, built in close collaboration with the West,” Mr. Chivers writes."


You are sutch a stupid cunt.

I remeber all the WMD propaganda, do you?

[husaberg]

"The weapons were not part of massive, active stockpiles that the United States set out to destroy by waging a war that would last eight years, take thousands of lives and leave Iraq in chaos. They were “remnants of long-abandoned programs, built in close collaboration with the West,” Mr. Chivers writes."


You are sutch a stupid cunt.

I remeber all the WMD propaganda, do you?
You seem to forget your own, about there being no WMD's, When there clearly was, Also contrary to Iraqs "We have No WMDs"

They had WMD which was contary to the UN resoltution

UNSC resolution 687
3 April 1991
12-1-2
Formal ceasefire ending the Persian Gulf War, with the conditions that Iraq:
Destroys all of its chemical and biological weapons and all ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 km;
Agrees not to develop nuclear weapons;
Submits a declaration of its weapons programs and voluntarily agrees to on-site inspections.

No amount of your posturing or rhetoric will change that.

[yokel]

You seem to forget your own, about there being no WMD's, When there clearly was, Also contrary to Iraqs "We have No WMDs"

They had WMD which was contary to the UN resoltution


No amount of your posturing or rhetoric will change that.

You don't even know what the "WMDs" was about.

There was no WMDs.
You're too stupid to know any different.

[husaberg]

There was no WMDs.
You're too stupid to know any different.

So now you are saying there was no WMDs found, yet a couple of posts ago you said there was.


"The weapons were not part of massive, active stockpiles that the United States set out to destroy by waging a war that would last eight years, take thousands of lives and leave Iraq in chaos. They were “remnants of long-abandoned programs, built in close collaboration with the West,” Mr. Chivers writes."


You are sutch a stupid cunt.

I remeber all the WMD propaganda, do you?

Thats an odd thing for a smart guy to say:corn:

Unless you are using YOKEL maths.
Where
Some = None:done:

[Brian d marge]

'Twas Lulu.
Not our cilla ... The judge must have been lulu then

sent for a divine source

[yokel]

So now you are saying there was no WMDs found, yet a couple of posts ago you said there was.



Thats an odd thing for a smart guy to say:corn:

Unless you are using YOKEL maths.
Where
Some = None:done:

You stupid cunt, the weapons they found have nothing to do with with the WMDs they were propagandizing about.

Its why Tony Blair and George Bush and others have been charged with war crimes.


http://youtu.be/tYxjlzlbEQ4

[Brian d marge]

Shirley Yokels antigravity balls have made that obsolete or is "BIG BRIDGES" trying to hide the technology we could power the cars with Katmans alternative energy If big oil ever let it out.
Strange how the Allies never went straight to Berlin
Omar Bradley went straight for the main prize I reckon ...

The bell project.... Yes our German friends had rotating plasma fields long before are 51 was even planted in begonias

PS I've a new batch of tin head wear... Made in China
Very reasonable



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[husaberg]

PS I've a new batch of tin head wear... Made in China
Very reasonable
sent on the sause

Communist aye, so you were you the one hiding under the bed?

[husaberg]

You stupid cunt, the weapons they found have nothing to do with with the WMDs they were propagandizing about.

Its why Tony Blair and George Bush and others have been charged with war crimes.


weapons they found, WMD's, But you said there were no weapons found, Jeeze make up your mind.

No they fucking well didn't you numb skull.

There was no WMDs. You're too stupid to know any different.

[yokel]

weapons they found, WMD But you said there were no weapons found, Jeeze make up your mind.

You don't know what 'WMDs' are, its why you post a link you have no understanding of its content.

Go catch some Pokemons silly boy.

[Brian d marge]

Communist aye, so you were you the one hiding under the bed?
Better in bed with the red I say

Either that or Trump


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[husaberg]

You don't know what 'WMDs' are, its why you post a link you have no understanding of its content.

Go catch some Pokemons silly boy.

https://unoda-web.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/assets/WMD/1540/pdf/1540-tenth-English.pdf


U N I T E D N A T I O N S N A T I O N S U N I E S


THE SECRETARY-GENERAL -- MESSAGE ON THE TENTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE ADOPTION OF SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 1540 (2004) New York, 28 April 2014

Ten years ago today, the Security Council took bold action to prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) by unanimously adopting resolution 1540 (2004). This global instrument requires Governments to prevent nonState actors or terrorists from acquiring, proliferating and using nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and their means of delivery.

In the decade since its adoption, resolution 1540 has become an important component of the global security architecture. Enacted under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, it recognizes that its full national, regional and global implementation requires international cooperation and assistance. I urge all States and stakeholders to reaffirm their common commitment to achieve the great goals of this resolution and to devote their utmost efforts to save present and future generations from the double threat posed by terrorism and weapons of mass destruction.

Gee you yokeled that one up again
So the 1000 or so Chemical weapons that you either admit that Iraq had or not depending on which post.:rolleyes:

You stupid cunt, the weapons they found have nothing to do with with the WMDs they were propagandizing about.

weapons they found, WMD's, But you said there were no weapons found, Jeeze make up your mind.

No they fucking well didn't you numb skull.

There was no WMDs. You're too stupid to know any different.



Are only by United Nations definitions WMD's, Yet they puzzlingly somehow don't meet the Yokel definiition of WMD.

[husaberg]

Better in bed with the red I say

Either that or Trump


sent for a divine source

Orange is the new Red. Well he is Besties with Putin.

[yokel]

https://unoda-web.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/assets/WMD/1540/pdf/1540-tenth-English.pdf



Gee you yokeled that one up again
So the 1000 or so Chemical weapons that you either admit that Iraq had or not depending on which post.:rolleyes:

weapons they found, WMD's, But you said there were no weapons found, Jeeze make up your mind.





Are only by United Nations definitions WMD's, Yet they puzzlingly somehow don't meet the Yokel definiition of WMD.

It's a shame you're not able to fadeway into irrelevance like that other loser Jeb Bush.

Posting that link was a big fat miss take.

So what were you doing when they were lying about the WMDs? Suckin on your mama's tit?



https://youtu.be/0m-nJgmaeRs

[Katman]

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The lesser of two evils is still evil.

[yokel]

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

Do you mean literally evil?
Because there's only one evil candidate.

Trump sure fits my political persuasion.

Now just comes down to whether he's actions matches his words.



http://youtu.be/Tab5vvo0TJw

[oldrider]

Do you mean literally evil?
Because there's only one evil candidate.

Trump sure fits my political persuasion.

Now just comes down to whether he's actions matches his words.

Well Trump talked the talk (if they don't shoot him) He may walk the walk - if he does the world could become a better place I hope he has the right team behind him!

There have been a lot of signals that he is just another one of them - in the end just more of the same! :facepalm:

We shall see what we shall see the truth will out eventually! :wait:

Interesting times! :corn:

[Hemi Makutu]

In a New Joisy accent - "Hey! Surly only looks after one guy.. Surly!"

[pritch]

Speaking of the sexual assault claims against Trump one of his sycophants reportedly said, "It's a he said, she said thing."

Actually it isn't. It's a he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, thing.
Twelve and counting.:facepalm:

[oldrider]

Speaking of the sexual assault claims against Trump one of his sycophants reportedly said, "It's a he said, she said thing."

Actually it isn't. It's a he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, thing.
Twelve and counting.:facepalm:

Throw out all that irrelevant shit and focus on his message in the video clip in post #1966 (yokel's post) and Trump says a bib-full about whats wrong with America!

He made those points early in the campaign and I thought then if that's what he really stands for - he is a walking dead man! :shifty:

Then I watched his address to AIPAC and concluded that he was full of shit and just another representative of the status quo! :facepalm:

It will be interesting to see which way he jumps if he should actually get elected. :scratch: It's absolutely clear who Hilary is there for! :sick:

[Brian d marge]

Throw out all that irrelevant shit and focus on his message in the video clip in post #1966 (yokel's post) and Trump says a bib-full about whats wrong with America!

He made those points early in the campaign and I thought then if that's what he really stands for - he is a walking dead man! :shifty:

Then I watched his address to AIPAC and concluded that he was full of shit and just another representative of the status quo! :facepalm:

It will be interesting to see which way he jumps if he should actually get elected. :scratch: It's absolutely clear who Hilary is there for! :sick:
Yup that's what I said .....
AIPAC, and the trilateral commission
And who is on dem councils
That's right Zbiginew and rockerfella .. AIPAC speaks for its self the fiefdom of Zion

Rigged is not strong enough of a word...



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[TheDemonLord]

Speaking of the sexual assault claims against Trump one of his sycophants reportedly said, "It's a he said, she said thing."

Actually it isn't. It's a he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, thing.
Twelve and counting.:facepalm:

Who all mysteriously happened to surface a few months out from the Election....

Call my cynical, but I suspect they may have had a helping hand.

[jasonu]

It will be interesting to see which way he jumps if he should actually get elected. :

We will never know.

[oldrider]

We will never know.

Normally I would agree with you but much of the world is getting pretty pissed off with what they can clearly see (but still denigh) is going on around them! :mad:

Bit hard to actually see Trump as Superman though isn't it - hope rules eternal but he pushes the envelope far far out! :blip: (anybody seen Clark Kent lately?)

[mashman]

Well Trump talked the talk (if they don't shoot him) He may walk the walk - if he does the world could become a better place I hope he has the right team behind him!

Do you mean that this guy needs to strip naked and hump his desk whilst singing yankee doodle dandy? (first 8 minutes are worth it)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVdRNYtnCZk

[Brian d marge]

As I said , Hitler speeches and trump speeches
Side by side
Spot the difference

I couldn't

https://youtu.be/EV9kyocogKo

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[husaberg]

Posting that link was a big fat miss take.
So what were you doing when they were lying about the WMDs? Suckin on your mama's tit?


https://youtu.be/0m-nJgmaeRs
So you can't quite come to terms with the simple Fact that despite your repeated ongoing assertions to the contrary. They clearly found WMD in Iraq.
No amount of Yokel Maths can change that simple fact.
But feel free to keep going on that there were no WMD found, or that both i and infering that both I the UN don't know what a WMD is, because it just reinforces that you are of sub par intellegence (Katman level 5 retardation)


More Holocaust 'maths'
The Holocaust is just like the ' weapons of mass destruction' a complete load of shit .




They had WMD, case closed, STFU, or are you unable to comprehend this basic fact? .


No they fucking well didn't you numb skull.

You keep posting there was no WMD, Yet clearly there was, whether there was 1 found or a thousand found there was WMD found. To say there was no WMD found is totally incorrect.



They had WMD, no amount of your posturing or rhetoric will change that.
UNSC resolution 687
3 April 1991
12-1-2
Formal ceasefire ending the Persian Gulf War, with the conditions that Iraq:
Destroys all of its chemical and biological weapons and all ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 km;
Agrees not to develop nuclear weapons;
Submits a declaration of its weapons programs and voluntarily agrees to on-site inspections.

UNSC resolution 707
15 August 1991
Demands immediate, complete, full compliance with UNSCR 687

UNSC resolution 1060
12 June 1996
Unanimous
Demands Iraq allow access to sites, weapons, transport and equipment by United Nations Special Commission weapons inspectors.

UNSC resolution 1441
8 November 2002
Unanimous
Gave Iraq "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations". After Hans Blix of UNMOVIC reported to the UN on 7 March 2003, the US, UK, and other members of the "coalition of the willing" declared that Iraq remained in material breach of resolution 687. Efforts aimed at a new Council resolution authorizing the invasion were aborted owing to resistance from other members of the Council including veto-wielding members. Iraq was invaded anyway, on 20 March.



You seem to forget your own, about there being no WMD's, When there clearly was, Also contrary to Iraqs "We have No WMDs"
They had WMD which was contary to the UN resoltution
No amount of your posturing or rhetoric will change that.


You don't even know what the "WMDs" was.
There was no WMDs.
You're too stupid to know any different.


You stupid cunt, the weapons they found have nothing to do with with the WMDs they were propagandizing about.
http://youtu.be/tYxjlzlbEQ4

[Woodman]

Fucken lucky we don't live in america aye?

[WristTwister]

As I said , Hitler speeches and trump speeches
Side by side
Spot the difference

I couldn't

https://youtu.be/EV9kyocogKo

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Too bad he's not more like this:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GY1Xg6X20&feature=youtu.be

[oldrider]

As I said , Hitler speeches and trump speeches
Side by side
Spot the difference

I couldn't

https://youtu.be/EV9kyocogKo

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Same applied logic! - Perhaps the reason they seem to be indistinguishable is because they are each addressing the same problem - side by side spot the difference! :blip:

[Brian d marge]

Same applied logic! - Perhaps the reason they seem to be indecipherable is because they are each addressing the same problem - side by side spot the difference! :blip:
I'm a lazy sod ..so I won't get many of them new labour certificates ...and me house is doing so well these days

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[Hemi Makutu]

Too bad he's not more like this:




He'd been a 'little tramp' himself, back in the day ( & Chaplin was born, ~ a week before him in 1889) prior to WW I,
- so he enjoyed the comedy showing the impoverished, but clever, bum getting one over - on the rich bastards..

[Brian d marge]

Government sovereign bonds that pay negative interest have doubled over the past six months to over $13 TRILLION. Now the reason that is happening is because when you've got all this massive debt out there you have to service it, and if you service it at normal 4, 5 or 6 percent interest rates it will break the bank.":laugh::shit::shifty:

And America's energy needs, debt load and just in time food delivery system make it as ripe for collapse as any nation in the world.:spanking:

[Brian d marge]

its a Rosie!!!

it will be interesting,,,,,

[yokel]

So you can't quite come to terms with the simple Fact that despite your repeated ongoing assertions to the contrary. They clearly found WMD in Iraq.
No amount of Yokel Maths can change that simple fact.
But feel free to keep going on that there were no WMD found, or that both i and infering that both I the UN don't know what a WMD is, because it just reinforces that you are of sub par intellegence (Katman level 5 retardation)



I'll ask again, So what were you doing when they were lying about the WMDs? Suckin on your mama's tit?

You do realise that the "WMDs" in Iraq has nothing to do with the old weapons they found.

Moving on from this retard.


https://youtu.be/mPG0jk_uxNc

[oldrider]

He'd been a 'little tramp' himself, back in the day ( & Chaplin was born, ~ a week before him in 1889) prior to WW I,
- so he enjoyed the comedy showing the impoverished, but clever, bum getting one over - on the rich bastards..

Chaplin's (dictator) speech is very popular in Gaza today - apparently it kindles the illusion of hope. :rolleyes:

[husaberg]

You do realise that the "WMDs" in Iraq has nothing to do with the old weapons they found.

Moving on from this retard.



Oh really, so the weapons they found, (you know the thousands of chemical weapons) which by definition are WMD's, that they Actually found. Are actually by your Yokel logic, not WMD at all.:lol:
Were they CGI effects like the WTC planes? or engery balls?or just shapeshifting alien cocoons?


Maybe instead of reading conspiracy sites, you might read Bush Juniors speech he made prior to invading Iraq.


My fellow citizens, events in Iraq have now reached the final days of decision. For more than a decade, the United States and other nations have pursued patient and honorable efforts to disarm the Iraqi regime without war. That regime pledged to reveal and destroy all its weapons of mass destruction as a condition for ending the Persian Gulf War in 1991.
Since then, the world has engaged in 12 years of diplomacy. We have passed more than a dozen resolutions in the United Nations Security Council. We have sent hundreds of weapons inspectors to oversee the disarmament of Iraq. Our good faith has not been returned.
The Iraqi regime has used diplomacy as a ploy to gain time and advantage. It has uniformly defied Security Council resolutions demanding full disarmament. Over the years, U.N. weapon inspectors have been threatened by Iraqi officials, electronically bugged, and systematically deceived. Peaceful efforts to disarm the Iraqi regime have failed again and again -- because we are not dealing with peaceful men.
Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised. This regime has already used weapons of mass destruction against Iraq's neighbors and against Iraq's people.
The danger is clear: using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons, obtained with the help of Iraq, the terrorists could fulfill their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country, or any other.

[Brian d marge]

And people say it's conspiracy theory....
http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/

Fk ...straight outta trumpton this

She copied my ideas the cow ....here were my ideas. Posted ages ago

Then she obviously has copied my ideas for world domination...
I should sue for copy right

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161029/042590d42cd03d3e7693689b8110966b.jpg

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[Katman]

Maybe instead of reading conspiracy sites you might read Bush Junioprs speach he made priro to invading Iraq

I'm not surprised you'd swallow everything GWB said.

You both seem as retarded as each other.

[husaberg]

I'm not surprised you'd swallow everything GWB said.

You both seem as retarded as each other.
In this instance what he said was true.
Rather than what the conspiracy sites tell you. The iraqs clearly had WMD just as he said they did.
This was a breach of the UN resolutions.
The fact you can't argue the actual point and resort to your tried and true, name calling and insults, further proves you have no actual proof or logical method of proving they did not have WMD.
Suggesting that i believe anything written is funny, considering you swallow pretty much any conspiracy going. Using a highly zealous level of religous faith.

[pritch]

I don't know why you guys are arguing WMDs. It is accepted everywhere now that Bush and Blair were lying in their teeth. Well, it's accepted by everyone who is not supposed to be taking medication.

The USA has legally defined the term WMD. Silly me, I'd have thought it meant nuclear devices, biological and chemical weapons and such but no... A Yank in the Middle East posed for a photo with an RPG 7 and when he got back to the US was charged with possession of a WMD. In their fucked up definition a hand grenade is a WMD.

About as silly as the politician who wanted flak jackets redefined as firearms when they were worried about criminals wearing the jackets. Of course, they were worrying about a problem that didn't exist then and probably still doesn't.

Sorry, politicians tend to piss me off. :brick:

[Brian d marge]

Have a look at wikileaks if ya want some fun

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[Katman]

I don't know why you guys are arguing WMDs. It is accepted everywhere now that Bush and Blair were lying in their teeth.


Everywhere - except in husaberk's seemingly empty cranial cavity.

[jasonu]

While you bunch of faggots are having your bitch fight about fuck all this happened.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-chief-james-comey-is-in-political-crossfire-again-over-emails/ar-AAjxNj9?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=EIE9HP

Maybe there is a little hope for the Don yet...

[oldrider]

Everywhere - except in husaberk's seemingly empty cranial cavity.

husashill has a job to do - he (or she or whatever) have people to please - brownie points to gather - best to just let him have his way and ignore it! :rolleyes:

[Hemi Makutu]

Shill & shrill, for sure.. & when called out on its one-eyed purview, it redreps too

[pritch]

Interesting to note after all those Trump rants about voter fraud; voter fraud which, by the way, has been virtually non-existent. A voter has been caught voting twice - for Trump!

[jasonu]

Interesting to note after all those Trump rants about voter fraud; voter fraud which, by the way, has been virtually non-existent. A voter has been caught voting twice - for Trump!

That's the first I have heard of that.

[Hemi Makutu]

Chad's surely done got priors - for this kind of thing..

[YellowDog]

Oh Yes.... This is great :yes:


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