The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Bonez]

If Trump is a threatening tyrant, why did Democrats just agree to give him $730bn for the military? :- https://www.rt.com/op-ed/475742-trump-democrats-military-funding-support/ - :msn-wink:What military war has he started? Obamama pissed around in Syria. The Trump and Co. ask the Military Commanders what they needed to squash ISIS there. Trump and Co. listened, ISIS got the boot with the help of Russia and Assard. Obama had the military drop leaflets before every attack, nothing happened to ISIS in Syria.

[Bonez]

I see Surly Rubec is currently viewing this page. Joined 2006, hasn't posted since 2008? Post away dude. You are irralivent here pritch.

[husaberg]

YTou obviously haven't released you are irralivent here pritch.

quoted just because:lol:

[Bonez]

Thank you West Coast Bozo for letting pritch see my post. pritch and you are obviously so delusional you think you have some say or impact in what other members can or can not do here.

[Laava]

He he. That'll get the Bozos to curl up into the fetal position.

Even if it is just a wind up it will be entertaining to watch. Mike has a great sense of humour.
If you think that's going to be entertaining, you should head over to the bozo cllub(sic) and see how wound up some of the retards there are getting!

[Laava]

You are irralivent here pritch.
Where's Pritch livin'?

[mashman]

Yeah I can see some of the more sensible Dems getting sick of towing the party line. Chuck and Nancy have lied in public on a number of times about Trumps behavior at meetings.

Trump has nothing to lose by trying. As I mentioned It'll be very entertaining if he does. The thing folk tend tto forget is that the US Constitution is a living document and can be amended. The first 2.5years Trump and team went through a lot of crap. It was pretty obvious Mueller had finished his investigation well before the US mid terms. Thank goodness AG Barr, a close friend of Muellers, gave him a kick up the arse. Rosenstien was partly to blame to and got off relatively scott free. Mueller was to come out up with a clear cut n dry decision not some mamby pamby ramble so that left Barr and Rosenstien, his bosses, to make the final decision.

I do wonder if they'll bother to try to find out where it all came from when his next term starts... or indeed before it finishes.

[Bonez]

I do wonder if they'll bother to try to find out where it all came from when his next term starts... or indeed before it finishes.I guess we'll see when the time comes. As with the 2016 US election, just sit back and enjoy the show. Watching Rachael Mad Cow, Brian Slater, Frado and Lemonhead on youtube in entertaining as well. I wonder if they will even be on MSM in a years time though. Even other lefties are telling them to shut their collective cake holes.

[mashman]

I guess we'll see when the time comes. As with the 2016 US election, just sit back and enjoy the show. Watch Rachaul Mad Cow, Frado and Lemonhead on youtube in entertaining as well.

Fark that... I'll leave it all as a glorious surprise. Which reminds me, I must check who runs the motherland now.

[oldrider]

Impeachment has blown up in the faces of Democrats, and it's their own fault:- :rolleyes: - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/impeachment-has-blown-up-in-the-faces-of-democrats-and-its-their-own-fault - :lol:

[Bonez]

Dems are stupid enough to try and carry it on until the next election. They have nothing else in their play book. Babbling on about Ukraine just keeps Biden and sons shady dealings in the spot light.

[pritch]

Saw another with a Democrat saying that he'll vote against impeachment.

The one I saw reported as saying that is in a very dodgy electoral situation and he doesn't want to offend the Republican voters. Being that they are R voters it's probably a lost cause anyway.

[Bonez]

The one I saw reported as saying that is in a very dodgy electoral situation and he doesn't want to offend the Republican voters. Being that they are R voters it's probably a lost cause anyway.So you read the New York times. So what?

[Bonez]

Where's Pritch livin'?You obviously haven't read his profile. Top left of his postings. I've ridden with him a few time in group KB rides years back. I'm guessing he has the same last name as me. May be even a long lost cousin on my fathers side. Granddad was a bit of a womanizer you see.

[mashman]

The one I saw reported as saying that is in a very dodgy electoral situation and he doesn't want to offend the Republican voters. Being that they are R voters it's probably a lost cause anyway.

It's a ridiculous situation. It is no better anywhere else in the world either. Somewhat ironically, the voters, R or D, are the only thing that aren't a lost cause. "We" simply have nothing to vote for but the illusion of choice. The outcomes are all but predictable, because they are economic, not political. Irony being, "they" waste billions trying to coerce pople in their own country to vote for them, but tell the rest of the world to fuck off as if the rest of the world isn't going to be affected by the outcome... not to mention their somewhat chequered past when it comes to interfering in with the affairs of governments around the globe. It is all so very predictable. The only thing that isn't, is the voter. I barely read about it anymore, because the story doesn't change and has been mirrored throughout history.

The politics of the present are here to defend the economic decisions made in the past. That's why no party focuses on the people. They're too busy firefighting their position to be of any use to anyone. I can't remember the senator that said it, but he said something along the lines of: "I remember that 95% of my day spent on the phone or in meetings with the electorate. These days I spent 95% of my time on the phone to donors.". They know what's happening, but can;t do anything about it because politics no longer belongs to the people, it belongs to economics.

[Bonez]

Funy how Dems loved the Electorial Collage untill Trump won. Hollywood was up his arse until he chose to run for the presidency. He always said if he ran he'll run as a Rebublican being a life long Democrat and all.

[MaxPenguin]

It's a ridiculous situation. It is no better anywhere else in the world either. Somewhat ironically, the voters, R or D, are the only thing that aren't a lost cause. "We" simply have nothing to vote for but the illusion of choice. The outcomes are all but predictable, because they are economic, not political. Irony being, "they" waste billions trying to coerce pople in their own country to vote for them, but tell the rest of the world to fuck off as if the rest of the world isn't going to be affected by the outcome... not to mention their somewhat chequered past when it comes to interfering in with the affairs of governments around the globe. It is all so very predictable. The only thing that isn't, is the voter. I barely read about it anymore, because the story doesn't change and has been mirrored throughout history.

The politics of the present are here to defend the economic decisions made in the past. That's why no party focuses on the people. They're too busy firefighting their position to be of any use to anyone. I can't remember the senator that said it, but he said something along the lines of: "I remember that 95% of my day spent on the phone or in meetings with the electorate. These days I spent 95% of my time on the phone to donors.". They know what's happening, but can;t do anything about it because politics no longer belongs to the people, it belongs to economics.

Why are donors even allowed? It's bullshit. Donors and politicians that accept donations need to be lynched. Not necessarily literally lynched.

[mashman]

Funy how Dems loved the Electorial Collage untill Trump won. Hollywood was up his arse until he chose to run for the presidency. He always said if he ran he'll run as a Rebublican being a life long Democrat and all.

I reckon Trump was approached to run. To what end I dunno... but I doubt wanting to be president was on top of any list whilst he was eating breakfast the day it happened.


Why are donors even allowed? It's bullshit. Donors and politicians that accept donations need to be lynched. Not necessarily literally lynched.

Because that's how it has always worked. Getting donors out into the open and setting "rules" surrounding donations isn't a bad idea when you're publicising that which already exists. It still isn't a fool proof way of getting policy out to the electorate... but the alternative to donors is that "we", the people who elect governments, fund it through taxation whilst the donoring carries on without needing to adhere to any form of "rule". It is bullshit, but that's the way it has always been and why removing such would simply see more money evaporate from government.

It ain't overly nice to consider, but the money will come from somewhere to fund the champion du jour no matter the measures put in place to prevent it.

[Bonez]

I reckon Trump was approached to run. To what end I dunno... but I doubt wanting to be president was on top of any list whilst he was eating breakfast the day it happened.I'm inclined to think the same. He appears to have some very professional people covering his back. I'd imagine exposing Obumas administrations under the table antics is one reason. Obama was far more autocratic than Trump has ever been despite the MSM naitive to the contrary. He pulled a great move by inviting independent journalist, from both camps, in to the White House leaving MSM out in the gardens. When the meeting was finished and going out side and telling MSM to fuck off out of the seats and get behind the barrier.

Obama signed a gizillion Executive Orders in his last few months of office. Trump is reversing them.

[mashman]

I'm inclined to think the same. He appears to have some very professional people covering his back. I'd imagine exposing Obumas administrations under the table antics is one reason. Obama was far more autocratic than Trump has ever been despite the MSM naitive to the contrary. He pulled a great move by inviting independent journalist, from both camps, in to the White House leaving MSM out in the gardens. When the meeting was finished and going out side and telling MSM to fuck off out of the seats and get behind the barrier.

Obama signed a gizillion Executive Orders in his last few months of office. Trump is reversing them.

Obama, like Trump, were/are just doing what they're told to do. I'm curious as to who is doing the reversing and why... coz usually those who start those sorts of wars never lose them.

[pritch]

I reckon Trump was approached to run. To what end I dunno... but I doubt wanting to be president was on top of any list whilst he was eating breakfast the day it happened.



Trump has talked of running for years, there was certainly time to run an FBI check on him. He applied for a casino licence in Australia but the application was declined because of his mob connections. President of the USA? No problem.

The basic salary of a US Senator is US$174,000 pa. The same person will receive millions from the NRA, AIPAC, big pharma, the insurance companies, the for-profit prisons etc etc. It's highly unlikely they are working for the people paying the $174,000, the taxpayers. Most of the US politicians are bought and paid for. The suggestion has been made that they wear sponsorship labels on their suits like racing drivers (or MotoGP riders). Voters could then see who the politicians were actually working for.

The electoral college has determined the outcome in two of the last five elections, both times to Republicans (43 & 45). To say the Dems liked it until 2016 is uninformed.

Social media is heavily populated by bots and trolls, such as those operating out of the IRA in St Petersburg. There are several 'tells' one of which is bad spelling, English is their second language after all. Their spelling though is great compared to some of the Trump fans here. Funny, the US Trump cult members can't spell either.

[Bonez]

The ONLY way you can currently win a US election in the US IS the Electoral Collage you Dingbat. The US Constitution would have to be ammended to change that.

Yiou are the misinformed one.

Now that you have learnt something new can you please stop peddling your obvious bull shit.

So you haven't ignored me at all pritch. Oh goody my really first real live internet stalker.

[oldrider]

The only way you can currently win a US election in the US IS the Electoral Collage you Dingbat. The US Constitution would have to be ammended to change that.

If you really took any notice of political trends in America (and the world) you would be aware that to win an election you have to suck up to all the Jewish pressure groups and pledge allegiance to Israel. :msn-wink:

You don't have to be Anti-Semitic or racist to come to that conclusion - simply watch MSM and TV news etc and there it is - hidden in plain sight for all to see - over and over and over and over! - :sleep:

[mashman]

Trump has talked of running for years, there was certainly time to run an FBI check on him. He applied for a casino licence in Australia but the application was declined because of his mob connections. President of the USA? No problem.

The basic salary of a US Senator is US$174,000 pa. The same person will receive millions from the NRA, AIPAC, big pharma, the insurance companies, the for-profit prisons etc etc. It's highly unlikely they are working for the people paying the $174,000, the taxpayers. Most of the US politicians are bought and paid for. The suggestion has been made that they wear sponsorship labels on their suits like racing drivers (or MotoGP riders). Voters could then see who the politicians were actually working for.

The electoral college has determined the outcome in two of the last five elections, both times to Republicans (43 & 45). To say the Dems liked it until 2016 is uninformed.

Social media is heavily populated by bots and trolls, such as those operating out of the IRA in St Petersburg. There are several 'tells' one of which is bad spelling, English is their second language after all. Their spelling though is great compared to some of the Trump fans here. Funny, the US Trump cult members can't spell either.

My mum talked of being PM too, as have many celebs that haven't been PM. I don't really care who he is, nor much about his history, as he is as irrelevant as Obama. May as well have Miss Piggy, not Clinton, doing the job for all the difference it would make.

It's expensive to run a campaign. Not many can afford it without supporters... and who better to receive donations from than those who wish support you, especially as you are going to represent them and their views whilst they go out and do good works in the economy? I prefer the "ledger" over the ruining of clothing for advertising purpose ;).

Did I agree or say something regarding the electoral college? Coz I didn't.

There are several tells that human beings haven't got a clue what they're talking about. I know people who can't read or write that make sense and exceptionally well read and written people who haven't got a fuckin' clue. They usually project that bad grandma and smelling pisstakes etc... actually say something about the cognitive ability of any given individual. Truly a cosmic irony.

[Bonez]

The quote "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win” comes to mind.

We are in the "then they laugh at you stage" at the mo.

Being obviously devoid of facts the Bozos will start the third stage momentarily. Ignoring OABs warning of of course. They are that thick.

[husaberg]

If you really took any notice of political trends in America (and the world) you would be aware that to win an election you have to suck up to all the Jewish pressure groups and pledge allegiance to Israel. :msn-wink:

You don't have to be Anti-Semitic or racist to come to that conclusion - ....- over and over and over and over! - :sleep:

Of course you dont have to be, but when 90% of your posts are directly related to inciting racial hate or about glorifying Hitler and the third Reich its pretty hard for anyone sane or not racist to believe you are not a sad racist old egg.
Thats why espouse your hateful theories on a internet thread under a veil of anonymity rather than in the letters to the editor of your local paper with your name and address.

[oldrider]

Of course you dont have to be, but when 90% of your posts are directly related to inciting racial hate or about glorifying Hitler and the third Reich its pretty hard for anyone sane or not racist to believe you are not a sad racist old egg.
Thats why espouse your hateful theories on a internet thread under a veil of anonymity rather than in the letters to the editor of your local paper with your name and address.

Many happy returns! - :D - even I missed you!

[husaberg]

Many happy returns! - :D - even I missed you!

Considering its well known how highly i rate your views, You should be able to figure out how much that means to me:msn-wink:

[pritch]

If you really took any notice of political trends in America (and the world) you would be aware that to win an election you have to suck up to all the Jewish pressure groups and pledge allegiance to Israel. :msn-wink:



Geez John you quoted Bonez again. He clearly doesn't grasp that when they talk about the election outcome being determined by the electoral college that refers to the EC being at variance to the popular vote. Trump lost the popular vote by a couple of million but won the electoral college. Most times the EC and the popular vote are in sync. Twice in the last five elections they weren't. Not difficult really.

[Bonez]

The popular vote is irrelevant pritch, the Founding Fathers made sure of that, unless the the Constitution is changed. What about that is hard to grasp? https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/about.html

Clinton would've been screeming from the roof tops if it it was an issue, She didn't. Of course there were a few recounts, which was to be expected, that came to nought.

Keep plucking at those straws though.

https://www.turleytalks.com/videos/impeachment-backfire-trump-beating-2020-dems-in-key-swing-states?utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=80586280&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8jfNof_Ld84DoMMdiUXE4C3Uy8yN2PsSWJ_dkrQhwp9qrlS6P1 1k4toJZ-fqzjCDh16HaoBEqM-6hBsr9mBSwdleTvRQ&_hsmi=80586280

[jasonu]

quoted just because:lol:

Did that make you feel superior or did it give you a boner?

[husaberg]

Did that make you feel superior?

It wasn't just that post, it was the sum total of the content of all of his posts plus the content all of yours since about 2017. Keep up the up the mediocre work.

[oldrider]

It wasn't just that post, it was the sum total of the content of all of his posts plus the content all of yours since about 2017. Keep up the up the mediocre work.

It's OK Jason - he is the self appointed :Police: of KB - he sets the standard! - :rofl:

[Bonez]

It wasn't just that post, it was the sum total of the content of all of his posts plus the content all of yours since about 2017. Keep up the up the mediocre work.Your content hasn't been exactly stellar sweetheart.

[Bonez]

Just for you Bozos https://saraacarter.com/ag-barr-fbi-acted-in-bad-faith-video/

Remember that AG Barr is a good friend of Mueller.

[husaberg]

Your content hasn't been exactly stellar sweetheart.
Really you seem to avoid the facts that what you suggest have no actual substance in law.

Do keep up. Three independent investigations came to the same conclusion-NO COLLUSION with Russians by Trumps team to effect the outcome of the 2016 US elections.
Nadler, Shift, Wacky Maxine etc going on tele every day for two and a half years made them look like the fools they are.


To establish whether a crime was committed by members of the Trump campaign with regard to Russian interference, investigators "applied the framework of conspiracy law", and not the concept of "collusion", because collusion "is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law."
The report found that there was insufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt a criminal conspiracy of the Trump campaign with the Russians, despite ample evidence of cooperation and collaboration. And it declined to make any finding on obstruction of justice, despite a mountain of evidence showing multiple attempts by the president to do exactly that.
Mueller stated on national television that the report did not find that there was “no collusion”



No one has been charged with conspiracy NO BODY! All the so called overseas assets were British, Italian, Assie or US intelligence connected.
Stones charged in connection to wikileaks Julian Assange.

You first claim "no collusion" was established to which I pointed out it wasn't a offence in the first place so at best its a misdirection, You then change tacks to another subject in that no one was charged with conspiracy.
Stick to one subject at a time aye. If everyone involved is so innocent why is it they had to obstruct justice and so many declined to appear for questioning?
you also fail to reconise that.

Trump has not been charged apparently because of the Department of Justice ruling that a sitting president cannot be indicted for any crime.

[sugilite]

Just for you Bozos https://saraacarter.com/ag-barr-fbi-acted-in-bad-faith-video/
.
Barr - "Has not been accurately reported by the press in the last few days". This from Mr 4 page summary just forgetting to mention the 10 counts of obstruction.
The US Justice Department’s FBI investigation yields 0 arrests and pretty much just finds the FBI - a Government department - guilty of incompetence - SHOCKING! Not.
Looks like Austins assurances that this report would lay the skulduggery of the US intelligence agencies and Dems bare - just turned into a little sparrows wet fart. <_<
Clearly Barrs idea of a good probe is Trumps dick jammed in his arse.

[pritch]

Speedy. Representative Jeff Van Drew a Democrat who said he would vote against impeachment is expected to switch parties. Internal polling suggests he would not survive a primary challenge in his district.

[Bonez]

Yeah, they are falling like dominos. Of course Bozos are in conplete denial.

[austingtir]

See, not all democrats are totally retarded.....

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/14/jeff-van-drew-change-parties-085036



How many others are going to be smart and jump ship before she sinks?

[pritch]

This is almost topical hereabout.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/time-asks-donald-trump-s-golf-clubs-remove-phony-magazine-n777546

[pritch]

I'm sure this will make y'all smile. :whistle:

[austingtir]

This is almost topical hereabout.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/time-asks-donald-trump-s-golf-clubs-remove-phony-magazine-n777546


^^ And this is what TDS looks like in it's purest form.

[Bonez]

BORRRRRRRING


The American Gothic take on Chuck and Nancy is funnier.

[husaberg]

Yeah, they are falling like dominos. Of course Bozos are in conplete denial.

The quote "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win” comes to mind.

We are in the "then they laugh at you stage" at the mo.

Being obviously devoid of facts the Bozos will start the third stage momentarily. Ignoring OABs warning of of course. They are that thick.
Really you seem to avoid the facts that what you suggest have no actual substance in law.

Do keep up. Three independent investigations came to the same conclusion-NO COLLUSION with Russians by Trumps team to effect the outcome of the 2016 US elections.
Nadler, Shift, Wacky Maxine etc going on tele every day for two and a half years made them look like the fools they are.


To establish whether a crime was committed by members of the Trump campaign with regard to Russian interference, investigators "applied the framework of conspiracy law", and not the concept of "collusion", because collusion "is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law."
The report found that there was insufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt a criminal conspiracy of the Trump campaign with the Russians, despite ample evidence of cooperation and collaboration. And it declined to make any finding on obstruction of justice, despite a mountain of evidence showing multiple attempts by the president to do exactly that.
Mueller stated on national television that the report did not find that there was “no collusion”



No one has been charged with conspiracy NO BODY! All the so called overseas assets were British, Italian, Assie or US intelligence connected.
Stones charged in connection to wikileaks Julian Assange.

You first claim "no collusion" was established to which I pointed out it wasn't a offence in the first place so at best its a misdirection, You then change tacks to another subject in that no one was charged with conspiracy.
Stick to one subject at a time aye. If everyone involved is so innocent why is it they had to obstruct justice and so many declined to appear for questioning?
you also fail to reconise that. You have not proved anything factual at all.

Trump has not been charged apparently because of the Department of Justice ruling that a sitting president cannot be indicted for any crime.

[mashman]

Speedy. Representative Jeff Van Drew a Democrat who said he would vote against impeachment is expected to switch parties. Internal polling suggests he would not survive a primary challenge in his district.

Some people will do anything to protect their income.

[Bonez]

Looks like the lefties are throwing a temper tantrum over in Londen because Boris and Torys won. Beautiful to watch.

First they bitch about letting the Democratic process take place and when it does they bitch about the outcome of a Democratic process.

[austingtir]

This is almost topical hereabout.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/time-asks-donald-trump-s-golf-clubs-remove-phony-magazine-n777546


:motu::motu::motu:

https://i.postimg.cc/664WDxkT/image.jpg

[oldrider]

The Truth About Trump's Executive Order on Antisemitism? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7djsxWO7is - :confused:



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[Bonez]

Seeing as some use twitter as an info source suck on this Bozos https://twitter.com/i/status/1205958137263427584

Careful though it's not a cartoon.

[sugilite]

Seeing as some use twitter as an info source suck on this Bozos https://twitter.com/i/status/1205958137263427584

Careful though it's not a cartoon.
Trump calling out liars :rolleyes:

[sugilite]

:motu::motu::motu:

https://i.postimg.cc/664WDxkT/image.jpg

Epstein's mate Trump, forcing himself onto a young girl, sounds about right.

[austingtir]

Creepy Joe, forcing himself onto a young girl, sounds about right.


Is that you when he swings the camera around chanting "it was the russians".....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=191&v=LjG7A9Ui-GQ&feature=emb_logo


I almost feel sorry for creepy joe..... What is that in there 83 lemmings he managed to get to turn up?



Pathetic!

[Bonez]

Epstein's mate Trump, forcing himself onto a young girl, sounds about right.You do know Trump kicked out Epstien permanently of his clubs for trying to hit up one of his staffs daughters. Also he was the only one who cooperated with the authorities in an earlier Epstien investigation?

[sugilite]

You do know Trump kicked out Epstien permanently of his clubs for trying to hit up one of his staffs daughters. Also he was the only one who cooperated with the authorities in an earlier Epstien investigation?
Yeah, I'm sure Mr "Grab them by the pussy" is a towering force of integrity.

[Bonez]

Locker room talk.

[pritch]

Yeah, I'm sure Mr "Grab them by the pussy" is a towering force of integrity.

He who said if Ivanka wasn't his daughter he'd be dating her? I wonder if he knew Ivanka was friendly with Christopher Steele, the British intelligence agent and author of the dossier that caused Republicans so much angst? Friendly to the point of Steele giving her a gift, which doesn't sound like a fleeting acquaintance. Funny that Trump never mentioned that. /sarcasm

Almost as odd as that Rudy Giuliani is Trump's personal lawyer, unpaid. Trump is not paying Rudy but the Russians are. Or were, 'cause one is currently behind bars.

Trump shouldn't move to Florida, he should go home to Moscow.

[sugilite]

Locker room talk.

And a very interesting snapshot of what runs through his mind, and quite revealing what thee man feels the need to brag about.

[sugilite]

He who said if Ivanka wasn't his daughter he'd be dating her?
Come on Pritch, that is locker room talk. I'm sure Trump does not sport a woody for his own daughter - surely not? :devil2:
And I'm sure once this is over and done with, Rudi will have been paid in full for his association with the orange one.

[pritch]

[QUOTE=sugilite;1131148267]Come on Pritch, that is locker room talk. I'm sure Trump does not sport a woody for his own daughter - surely not? :devil2:

He did tell one of his parters in infidelity that she reminded him of Ivanka, but the imagery that follows on from that thought is quite unpleasant. Hugh Jass indeed.

I wonder how many of his adoring fans have wondered why he wears such baggy suits and those absurdly long ties? Is it possible that he dresses like that to hide the fact that his incontinence requires him to wear nappies?

[sugilite]

Crikey Pritch, the imagery of your post is challenging my breakfast to stay in my stomach :puke:

I received a quote notification misrepresenting what I had actually said from our resident tantrum throwing toddler Austin.
It is hilarious hearing the muffled whinging emanating from the his padded cell in his near permanent home - the sin bin :clap:

[oldrider]

Chuck Baldwin explains how President Trump sold out the constitution and also American people. Trumps latest executive order is an assault on our free speech and Defies logic. Judaism can not be declared a nation. It is a religion not a nation! - :corn:



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[Banditbandit]

This thread is moderated pretty loosely, I'm happy to let it burble along occasionally going off topic slightly or a little bit of harmless banter. But I've just removed 70 posts of bullshit. Keep it up like that and I'll put the whole thread into pointless drivel.

Great idea - it's all pointless drivel already .

[Banditbandit]

The popular vote is irrelevant pritch, the Founding Fathers made sure of that,

So - you don't support one-vote democracy .

Somehow, that does not surprise me .

[Bonez]

So - you don't support one-vote democracy .

Somehow, that does not surprise me .Thank you so kindly for allowing pritch to see my post Bozo

[Banditbandit]

Thank you so kindly for allowing pritch to see my post Bozo

That the best you can do? Hard weekend was it little wille?

[jasonu]

I wonder how many of his adoring fans have wondered why he wears such baggy suits and those absurdly long ties? Is it possible that he dresses like that to hide the fact that his incontinence requires him to wear nappies?

You really are a dick head.

[Bonez]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELomyDaW4AAgJQh?format=png&name=900x900

[pritch]

Trumps latest executive order is an assault on our free speech and Defies logic. Judaism can not be declared a nation. It is a religion not a nation!


My impression was that he was trying to chase the Jewish vote but a lot of Jewish Americans were very uneasy about being made a different nationality. They'd been there before. About 1936.

[husaberg]

And I'm sure once this is over and done with, Rudi will have been paid in full for his association with the orange one.

One US dollar is worth 62 Russian Rubles.

[Bonez]

One US dollar is worth 62 Russian Rubles.And 1.52 NZ$ A drop of 0.04% since last month.

[Bonez]

My impression was that he was trying to chase the Jewish vote but a lot of Jewish Americans were very uneasy about being made a different nationality. They'd been there before. About 1936.The Jexit movement seems to be doing ok. Wiyh the Dems coming across as anti jewish and anti Israel. Dual citizens like Shift are making an arse of themselves.

[pritch]

Apparently five members of Van Drew’s staff are quitting because of him changing party. That’s pretty staunch, joining the unemployed on a matter of principle.

[husaberg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_zdHfLeaZo
Even Boris was laughing his arse off at Trump


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5JFT1q_L5M

[Banditbandit]

I reckon Trump was approached to run.

Trump did not expect to win, insiders say. It was a joke, a laugh for him - then he won .. joke's on the USA.


Now we have this ..

Given the Nixon scenario (Nixon resigned, remember, in the face of overwhelming evidence that meant he would have been impeached) Trump supporters say none of it is impeachable ..

A deep level of stupidity


https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/500239467241164/?t=2

[onearmedbandit]

Trump did not expect to win, insiders say. It was a joke, a laugh for him - then he won .. joke's on the USA.


Now we have this ..

Given the Nixon scenario (Nixon resigned, remember, in the face of overwhelming evidence that meant he would have been impeached) Trump supporters say none of it is impeachable ..

A deep level of stupidity



I think you'll find that goes both ways lol. And for the record I trust no politicians and have no interest in this 'debate' with the exception of observing the justifications each side has as to why their beliefs are the only right ones.


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These examples and yours above perfectly illustrate how the general public have very little idea and that politics at their level is simply a popularity contest.

[pritch]

These examples and yours above perfectly illustrate how the general public have very little idea and that politics at their level is simply a popularity contest.

That's one way of summing up the nature of the problem. The qualities required to win the candidacy, then the election, bear no relevance to the qualities required to be a president.

Getting elected is in the nature of a popularity contest, the presidency is more like being a chairman of the board. In the US, of course, the chairman gets to select his board. Hopefully the person who wins the presidency is a quick learner.

[husaberg]

These examples and yours above perfectly illustrate how the general public have very little idea and that politics at their level is simply a popularity contest.

I think that more reflects how lacking in basic intelligence the average US voter is.

[pritch]

I think that more reflects how lacking in basic intelligence the average US voter is.

To be fair the British voters are looking rather dim at the moment too. Although some people do think there is a common denominator. :whistle:

There would also seem to be some hereabout who think the Kiwi voters fucked up too, but they'd need to come up with a different explanation.

[Katman]

I think that more reflects how lacking in basic intelligence the average US voter is.

And yet, compared to some on here they appear absolutely genius.

[husaberg]

And yet, compared to some on here they appear absolutely genius.

I remember when somone on here was pushing a genius idea that a former mental patients "free energy engine" that was supposed to run on coffe grounds and other waste, thery made out he was a genius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ath9fodgVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBdLisFwbVc

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/174599-Alternative-fuels

To be fair the British voters are looking rather dim at the moment too. Although some people do think there is a common denominator. :whistle:

There would also seem to be some hereabout who think the Kiwi voters fucked up too, but they'd need to come up with a different explanation.

Luckily our ones are faily bland and vanilla, MMP does that, of the current big two, one is slightly left, one slightly right, nothing really radical.
The most right wing government of the last 50 years was actually labour 84 imo

[oldrider]

Interesting questions raised by this panel? :- :shifty: - https://www.trunews.com/stream/gun-confiscation-virginia-s-racist-governor-stokes-civil-war-fears - :corn:

[MaxPenguin]

And yet, compared to some on here they appear absolutely genius.

No geniuses on here mate

[sugilite]

No geniuses on here mate

Hold up mate, I'm a very stable genius - and there is nothing unusual about me feeling the need to state that "fact". :innocent:

[Bonez]

Hold up mate, I'm a very stable genius - and there is nothing unusual about me feeling the need to state that "fact". :innocent:Your posts here tend to suggest otherwise. Just an observation.

[TheDemonLord]

Hold up mate, I'm a very stable genius - and there is nothing unusual about me feeling the need to state that "fact". :innocent:

I'd concur with sincerity.

[sugilite]

Your posts here tend to suggest otherwise. Just an observation.
Yes, I agree - my behavior suggests I'm neither stable nor a genius. Amazing how seemingly intelligent people attribute those qualities to the person who made the original utterance - despite his near daily moronic behavior proving the opposite.

[Bonez]

Yes, I agree - my behavior suggests I'm neither stable nor a genius..That would make a good signiture.

[sugilite]

That would make a good signiture.

Feel free to use it - I waive all copyright holdings on it :niceone:

[pritch]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/17/us/politics/trump-pelosi-letter.html

[Banditbandit]

These examples and yours above perfectly illustrate how the general public have very little idea and that politics at their level is simply a popularity contest.

Yes - exactly ...

[Banditbandit]

Your posts here tend to suggest otherwise. Just an observation.

Hey - little willie - you seem to have a resemblance to a Howler Monkey ...

Howler monkeys are the loudest land animals on Earth, capable of bellowing at volumes of 140 decibels, which is on the level of gunshots or firecrackers. Not surprisingly, male howlers frequently use this power to advertise their sexual fitness, catcalling females with their ear-splitting roars.

But in a beautiful twist of expectations, scientists have now found that the louder the monkey's calls, the smaller the monkey's balls. A team based out of Cambridge University came to this conclusion by comparing the size of dozens of monkeys' testes with the hyoid bones located in their voice boxes, which revealed a negative correlation between decibel levels and testicular endowment.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kb7eew/the-louder-the-monkey-the-smaller-its-balls-study-finds-42361364663309?fbclid=IwAR1oIch8muleLuu2IW5hyENoQS _0ssKBMxbzUkxGTnjINiRFozJYOW29t30

[pritch]

I think that more reflects how lacking in basic intelligence the average US voter is.

Without wishing to take a position on this personally, the Democrats seem to agree. They are keeping their impeachment charges super simplistic so that the voters are not confused. F'rinstance they aren't even using the 10 obstruction charges in the Mueller Report. They are neatly laid out, ready to go but...

The Republicans also seem to agree, nobody with an IQ above room temperature will be sucked in by the evasions and distractions they are employing.

The "average US voter" will show us how intelligent they are in due course. Anybody can make a mistake. To repeat it, now that would be stupid.

[Bonez]

Without wishing to take a position on this personally, the Democrats seem to agree. They are keeping their impeachment charges super simplistic so that the voters are not confused. F'rinstance they aren't even using the 10 obstruction charges in the Mueller Report. They are neatly laid out, ready to go but...
Because they have been debunked a long time ago. Contacts have been proven to be Western intel assets. Impeaching over a telephone call is just plain idiotic and the general public realise this.

Anyway back to my other hobby,

[mashman]

Trump did not expect to win, insiders say. It was a joke, a laugh for him - then he won .. joke's on the USA.


Now we have this ..

Given the Nixon scenario (Nixon resigned, remember, in the face of overwhelming evidence that meant he would have been impeached) Trump supporters say none of it is impeachable ..

A deep level of stupidity

I reckon there's a little more to it than that, but hey, opinion... hence why so many say that what has happened is impeachable, and just as many don't. Shows just how shit the law is as a tool.

[sugilite]

Because they have been debunked a long time ago. Impeaching over a telephone call is just plain idiotic and the general public realise this.
A telephone call you say?
Is it not the quid pro quo act of withholding already approved defense support funds if they did not open and announce an investigation regarding the Bidens?
Funny how he released the funds the day he found out about the whistle blower.

What was the latest fox poll - 50% want him impeached and removed? Think a fair amount of the US general public do not share your view.

The whole thing still a farce, not from there not being an impeachable offense, more from the republicans trying to all lie their way out of it and the fact the senate will strike it all down anyway.
If it were Obama that had got caught doing the same shit, would the republicans be taking the same approach? If course not they would be stringing the noose up over the tree for a good ole lynching.

And before anyone gets a bad case of the "but what about's".
Sure investigate the Bidens, throw em in jail if they broke the law.

Trump is done for when his term/s are finished, the IRS will be licking their lips over his all but admit tax fraud in the nineties when defending how he lost more money than the rest combined.
Any person who spends the money raised for charity for veterans will have a shit ton of other misdeeds just waiting to be found.
I for one are really looking forward to seeing that happen. Unless he gets Epsteined before that can happen.

[TheDemonLord]

A telephone call you say?
Is it not the quid pro quo act of withholding already approved defense support funds if they did not open and announce an investigation regarding the Bidens?
Funny how he released the funds the day he found out about the whistle blower.

What was the latest fox poll - 50% want him impeached and removed? Think a fair amount of the US general public do not share your view.

The whole thing still a farce, not from there not being an impeachable offense, more from the republicans trying to all lie their way out of it and the fact the senate will strike it all down anyway.
If it were Obama that had got caught doing the same shit, would the republicans be taking the same approach? If course not they would be stringing the noose up over the tree for a good ole lynching.

And before anyone gets a bad case of the "but what about's".
Sure investigate the Bidens, throw em in jail if they broke the law.

Trump is done for when his term/s are finished, the IRS will be licking their lips over his all but admit tax fraud in the nineties when defending how he lost more money than the rest combined.
Any person who spends the money raised for charity for veterans will have a shit ton of other misdeeds just waiting to be found.
I for one are really looking forward to seeing that happen. Unless he gets Epsteined before that can happen.

There's just one small problem with that:

Where and Who is the Democratic leader?

The Democrats are doing in America what Corbyn and Co did to Labour in the UK and they got spanked for it.

They need to rid themselves of all the Marxists/Socialists/Communists in their Ranks and stand on some centre-left policies. Then they would have a pretty decent shot at Winning.

But they won't and Trump will get a second term and...






It will be all the Democrats Fault.

[mashman]

Hmmmmmmm. let's see now. The first indictment.

I'll go for: Obama, In the Whitehouse, Using Treason.

[Bonez]

Surely you must know by now polls mean shit all. Hillary was polled at 80 odd percent to win the 2016 elections.

[sugilite]

Surely you must know by now polls mean shit all. Hillary was polled at 80 odd percent to win the 2016 elections.

So where are you getting your information in regards to how the general public are interpreting it all?

[sugilite]

There's just one small problem with that:

Where and Who is the Democratic leader?

The Democrats are doing in America what Corbyn and Co did to Labour in the UK and they got spanked for it.

They need to rid themselves of all the Marxists/Socialists/Communists in their Ranks and stand on some centre-left policies. Then they would have a pretty decent shot at Winning.

But they won't and Trump will get a second term and...

It will be all the Democrats Fault.

OI! you are doing it again, I never mentioned the Democrats in that lot lol

I fully agree with you BTW.

[Bonez]

A place you obviously don't have access to.

[sugilite]

Oh, yes I thought you were just pulling that lot out your arse.

[Bonez]

Another member for the Bozo club. Excellent.

[austingtir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzRl1qfKFr0

[sugilite]

Another member for the Bozo club. Excellent.

Or you could just give us the source that led to your statement regarding the General public's interpretation? No?
If the Bozo club consists of posters who query your overly simplistic assertions and seemingly non existent sources - then yes, count me in.

[austingtir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXifW8oi9Js

[Bonez]

Or you could just give us the source that led to your statement regarding the General public's interpretation? Like the other assertions that the mojority of the us public is stupid? Go find it ya fucken self. Hint not the New York Tmes.

[sugilite]

Like the other assertions that the mojority of the us public is stupid? Go find it ya fucken self. Hint not the New York Tmes.
Bonez, if ya got nothing, why not just say nothing?

[oldrider]

Almost there...? - :scratch: - https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/1207126425519702016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - If true? - Who needs enemies with friends like this? - MIGA? Bibi? Donald? - :wait:

[jasonu]

Without wishing to take a position on this personally, the Democrats seem to agree. They are keeping their impeachment charges super simplistic so that the voters are not confused. F'rinstance they aren't even using the 10 obstruction charges in the Mueller Report. They are neatly laid out, ready to go but...

The Republicans also seem to agree, nobody with an IQ above room temperature will be sucked in by the evasions and distractions they are employing.

The "average US voter" will show us how intelligent they are in due course. Anybody can make a mistake. To repeat it, now that would be stupid.

The whole thing is total spoiled brat bullshit. Their Hillary somehow lost the election which they still haven't gotten over. The attempts at getting Trump out include Steel dossier which was crap, the failed Muller report and now this which will also go nowhere.
You are a fucking idiot if you can't see that.

[husaberg]

"Since the Sept. 26 release of the whistleblower complaint about his call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Trump has insisted more than 80 times (yes 80 times) that the whistleblower's account is fake, fraudulent, incorrect, 'total fiction,' 'made up,' and 'sooo wrong,'"
Despite what Trump claims, the whistleblower has apparently got the call 'almost completely' right.

According to the transcript of the call the White House released in September, is what happened.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/ukraine-transcript-donald-trump-zelensky-biden/index.html

1) Trump tells Zelensky that the US does a lot for Ukraine.
2) Trump reminds Zelensky that Ukraine doesn't reciprocate.
3) Trump asks Zelensky for a favor: to look into a debunked conspiracy theory that the hacked Democratic National Committee server is in Ukraine.
4) Trump asks Zelensky to look into Joe and Hunter Biden.


Now, you can debate whether that's an impeachable offense to the cows come home
it's impossible to dispute that what the whistleblower said
Thus in terms of the nature and content of the call was accurate in virtually every way.

Which means trump lied his arse off all the trump supporters will never acknowledge this fact though.

WHich brings us to what he did.
President Donald Trump illegally withheld military aid to Ukraine. He broke U.S. law to keep the money frozen.
There are two relevant budgetary statutes that are implicated by Trump withholding military aid for Ukraine: apportionment authority and the Impoundment Control Act (ICA).
Both laws are intended to restrict the executive branch from undermining Congress’s “power of the purse” under the Constitution.
these laws were establised after guess who tried the same shit,Disgraced republican former president Nixon.

https://www.justsecurity.org/67489/trumps-hold-on-ukrainian-military-aid-was-illegal/

[Katman]

Gee, I wondered who was so quick on the draw to report Jason's post....


…..and there you were.

[Bonez]

Bonez, if ya got nothing, why not just say nothing?Ditto............All you and the other Bozos have done is spout off MSN talking points.

[Bonez]

Gee, I wondered who was so quick on the draw to report Jason's post....


…..and there you were.At least one mod is on the ball.

[Katman]

At least one mod is on the ball.

The Berk has them on speed dial.

[husaberg]

Gee, I wondered who was so quick on the draw to report Jason's post....


…..and there you were.

Are you seriously suggesting the post above mine made when jason has already been already the sin bin for at least 2 days, is the reason why hes in the bin bin two days afterwards.:2thumbsup
Wow thats' a bold claim even for someone totally detached from reality, its also clearly fictitious and lacking in common sense.
If i was a betting man common sense would suggest Jason was placed in the bin for something he did prior to being put in the sin bin rather than mr allegedly reprting him for something he did afterwards;)

ps congrats on making it in the urban dictionary
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Steving

[pritch]

Now, you can debate whether that's an impeachable offense to the cows come home


In withholding the funds approved by Congress Trump appears guilty of abusing the powers of the presidency. This also indirectly endangered the national security of the USA. In forbidding cabinet members and others to attend the Congressional hearings he appears guilty of obstructing Congress.

Any one of those three would be impeachable. Unless something changes though the Senate will not convict because the majority of Republican senators no longer serve the people, they serve Trump.

Trump is not handling the pressure well, especially since the Fox poll showed him losing ground and he'd have been watching Fox. Thus his six page unhinged rant.

The cows are home.

[Katman]

The cows are home.

If only you put this sort of effort into something that actually mattered.

[husaberg]

In withholding the funds approved by Congress Trump appears guilty of abusing the powers of the presidency. This also indirectly endangered the national security of the USA. In forbidding cabinet members and others to attend the Congressional hearings he appears guilty of obstructing Congress.

Any one of those three would be impeachable. Unless something changes though the Senate will not convict because the majority of Republican senators no longer serve the people, they serve Trump.

Trump is not handling the pressure well, especially since the Fox poll showed him losing ground and he'd have seen it because he watches Fox and Friends. Thus his six page unhinged rant.

The cows are home.

.......and the republican voters have BSE.

[Laava]

If only you put this sort of effort into something that actually mattered.

Oh the irony!

[Katman]

Oh the irony!

Hey, I just happen to think that resisting concepts like mandatory vaccination is of considerably higher importance than voicing your dislike of a person who you have absolutely no ability to affect the standing of.

But you're welcome to disagree of course.

[sugilite]

The whole thing is total spoiled brat bullshit. Their Hillary somehow lost the election which they still haven't gotten over. The attempts at getting Trump out include Steel dossier which was crap, the failed Muller report and now this which will also go nowhere.
You are a fucking idiot if you can't see that.
My perception was her polling numbers hit the skids in a big way when Comey reopened the mail server issue again. I have no problem with her losing btw. The democrats would of won (IMO) if they had gone with Bernie. The dem cabal fucked themselves when they screwed over Bernie. Now he is too old for the job, and so is Biden.


Ditto............All you and the other Bozos have done is spout off MSN talking points.
Quite the trick then as I do not watch MSN.
You mentioned Hillery poll numbers as "Hillary was polled at 80 odd percent to win the 2016 elections.". Was that before or after Comey reopened the mail server investigation a week or so out from the election? Because I remember hers and Trumps numbers closing up sharply after that.

You seem to be avoiding answering where you got your information regarding the general American public's reaction to the impeachment process? (it's all right, I know there is none outside of polls).

[austingtir]

My perception was her polling numbers hit the skids in a big way when Comey reopened the mail server issue again. I have no problem with her losing btw. The democrats would of won (IMO) if they had gone with Bernie. The dem cabal fucked themselves when they screwed over Bernie. Now he is too old for the job, and so is Biden.


Quite the trick then as I do not watch MSN.
You mentioned Hillery poll numbers as "Hillary was polled at 80 odd percent to win the 2016 elections.". Was that before or after Comey reopened the mail server investigation a week or so out from the election? Because I remember hers and Trumps numbers closing up sharply after that.

You seem to be avoiding answering where you got your information regarding the general American public's reaction to the impeachment process? (it's all right, I know there is none outside of polls).


https://31.media.tumblr.com/91ffca62f6467f29d807c04bcd52a8f6/tumblr_n2hvqsYInH1qci23co1_500.gif

[jasonu]

Are you seriously suggesting the post above mine made when jason has already been already the sin bin for at least 2 days, is the reason why hes in the bin bin two days afterwards.:2thumbsup
Wow thats' a bold claim even for someone totally detached from reality, its also clearly fictitious and lacking in common sense.
If i was a betting man common sense would suggest Jason was placed in the bin for something he did prior to being put in the sin bin rather than mr allegedly reprting him for something he did afterwards;)

ps congrats on making it in the urban dictionary
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Steving

This place is your life innit.

[jasonu]

. The democrats would of won (IMO) if they had gone with Bernie.).

Absolutely.
A lot of people, myself included voted AGAINST Hillary rather than FOR Trump. They were the two most unpopular candidates ever, the slightly less unpopular one won and I'm fine with that.

[Bonez]

On polling night they were still saying she hads over 80% at the beginning. With Trump having like 5% chance. Watching Chenk Yuger melt down was a sight to behold.

Comey killed the invsestigation by announcing no one could possibly charged.

[sugilite]

Absolutely.
A lot of people, myself included voted AGAINST Hillary rather than FOR Trump. They were the two most unpopular candidates ever, the slightly less unpopular one won and I'm fine with that.
Totally understand and respect that.


On polling night they were still saying she hads over 80% at the beginning. With Trump having like 5% chance. Watching Chenk Yuger melt down was a sight to behold.

Comey killed the invsestigation by announcing no one could possibly charged.

Sounds like a poll they held in the "news room" lol
Did not know Comey killed the investigation before election day.

[Bonez]

Totally understand and respect that.



Sounds like a poll they held in the "news room" lol
Did not know Comey killed the investigation before election day.July 2016 https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-email-comey.html

Bernie back stabbed his supporters by sucking up to Clinton.

[Katman]

Bernie back stabbed his supporters by sucking up to Clinton.

It galled me too that he did that.

But what else was he to do?

Edit: Actually, scratch that - what he should have done is thrown his weight behind Jill Stein and encouraged his supporters to give their vote to a third party as a form of protest vote.

[Bonez]

Even now the Dems are trying to push Bernie aside even though Biden has proved to be totally worthless.

We don't hear much from the 4 horse women of the Apocalypses these days. Crying in front of an empty secured car lot and all that sillyness...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1wToYKmpM

[mashman]

It galled me too that he did that.

But what else was he to do?

Edit: Actually, scratch that - what he should have done is thrown his weight behind Jill Stein and encouraged his supporters to give their vote to a third party as a form of protest vote.

You reckon he had a choice? Did I just read that the FBI have been using FISA inappropriately to spy on people? You reckon Bernie had a choice?

[jasonu]

July 2016 https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-email-comey.html

Bernie back stabbed his supporters by sucking up to Clinton.

Bernies campaign was taking a lot of the lime light from Hillary and causing her campaign to spend time squabbling with him. News reports said Bernie had been summoned to Obama’s office for a little chat. A day or two later Bernie publicly abandoned his campaign and announced his support for Hillary. He got fucked by his own party.

[Katman]

You reckon he had a choice? Did I just read that the FBI have been using FISA inappropriately to spy on people? You reckon Bernie had a choice?

No, I don't think Bernie had a choice - hence my original question of 'what else could he do'.

I'm well aware that what I think he should have done was never a realistic option.

I'd like to think though that Bernie had the integrity to want to do it, but I suspect he simply lacked the courage to actually do it.

[mashman]

No, I don't think Bernie had a choice - hence my original question of 'what else could he do'.

I'm well aware that what I think he should have done was never a realistic option.

I'd like to think though that Bernie had the integrity to want to do it, but I suspect he simply lacked the courage to actually do it.

You posted Jill Stein as an option (he had none) in the edit... but yeah I agree with the above. However, leaders are meant to lead no matter what, even if it costs them their head.

[Bonez]

Did I just read that the FBI have been using FISA inappropriately to spy on people? At least 17 accounts. Going after Carter Page was a proven sham. Comey bare faced lied to Congress about the Steele dossier not being a major component for FISA renewals.

[oldrider]

Even now the Dems are trying to push Bernie aside even though Biden has proved to be totally worthless.

We don't hear much from the 4 horse women of the Apocalypses these days. Crying in front of an empty secured car lot and all that sillyness...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1wToYKmpM

Unfortunately politicians are all either compromised or shuffled to oblivion the whole debacle is orchestrated theatre designed to distract and deceive the electorate into believing that they contribute to the outcome! - :facepalm:

[pritch]

Did I just read that the FBI have been using FISA inappropriately to spy on people?

Possibly but unlikely. My reading suggests that the FISA warrant request in respect of Carter Page contained inaccuracies. The FISA Courts have requested a list of means by which the FBI will prevent this occurring again. Carter Page is not "people".

One of more FBI agents will be wearing a rocket up the arse about now.

[pritch]

Thank God the speeches are over, that was painful. Just watched history being made, the House voted to impeach Trump on the first count. The second vote to come.

[jasonu]

Thank God the speeches are over, that was painful. Just watched history being made, the House voted to impeach Trump on the first count. The second vote to come.

Both counts
https://ktvz.com/news/national-world/2019/12/18/house-debates-impeachment-of-president-donald-trump-ahead-of-historic-vote/

[Bonez]

Thank God the speeches are over, that was painful. Just watched history being made, the House voted to impeach Trump on the first count. The second vote to come.Total waste of time. Everyone with a clue knows what will happen.

But keep drawling like a school boy looking at his sisters knickers on the clothes line. It suites you.

[mashman]

Possibly but unlikely. My reading suggests that the FISA warrant request in respect of Carter Page contained inaccuracies. The FISA Courts have requested a list of means by which the FBI will prevent this occurring again. Carter Page is not "people".

One of more FBI agents will be wearing a rocket up the arse about now.

People or not, shirley you approve of due process over out and out fabricated lies... which is what omissions of data that contradict the position the FBI trying to put forwards, is.

I'd be extremely surprised if this stopped with the FBI. Bring on the impeachment. It should be interesting to see who framed who and who has the unredacted evidence to prove it.

[Laava]

But keep drawling like a school boy looking at his sisters knickers on the clothes line. It suites you.
What the fuck are you talking about? Even after I corrected your spelling so it would make proper context, what the fuck are you on about?

[pritch]

People or not, shirley you approve of due process over out and out fabricated lies...


Yep. Previously I had a rather jaundiced view of the FBI. Some of the "terrorist plots" they uncovered didn't exist until the FBI manufactured them.

Trump though has attacked the law enforcement and intelligence services in an effort to destabilise them and/or use them for his own purposes. In doing so he created some unlikely FBI sympathisers.

[Katman]

In doing so he created some unlikely FBI sympathisers.

Like yourself?

Are you prepared to turn a blind eye to the sins of the FBI simply because it suits your agenda?

[onearmedbandit]

Another 12 posts of crap removed from a thread that is mostly crap anyway. I'd argue it's funny watching you guys take pathetic pot shots at each other but it took around 38 seconds of my time to moderate the thread and I don't get paid enough for it to be funny.

[Katman]

Another 12 posts of crap removed from a thread that is mostly crap anyway. I'd argue it's funny watching you guys take pathetic pot shots at each other but it took around 38 seconds of my time to moderate the thread and I don't get paid enough for it to be funny.

Dude seriously, why do you even bother?

Do you actually think taking 12 posts out of a thread that has over 7 thousand posts (that you deem to be "mostly crap anyway") makes the slightest difference?

[husaberg]

Yep. Previously I had a rather jaundiced view of the FBI. Some of the "terrorist plots" they uncovered didn't exist until the FBI manufactured them.

Trump though has attacked the law enforcement and intelligence services in an effort to destabilise them and/or use them for his own purposes. In doing so he created some unlikely FBI sympathisers.

The oragnatan has a history of not listening to his own intelegence agengies he prefers Putins opinion.



A former FBI acting director has alleged Donald Trump dismissed advice from his own security agencies on the threat posed by North Korea’s missiles, saying “I don’t care. I believe Putin.”
Andrew McCabe made the claims in an interview with 60 Minutes, in which he discussed his tenure at the FBI after James Comey was fired by the president in 2017.

McCabe said Trump made the comments in a meeting about the weapons capability of North Korea. McCabe was not in the meeting with Trump and said his FBI colleague told him about it later.
“The president launched into several unrelated diatribes. One of those was commenting on the recent missile launches by the government of North Korea. And, essentially, the president said he did not believe that the North Koreans had the capability to hit us here with ballistic missiles in the United States. And he did not believe that because President Putin had told him they did not. President Putin had told him that the North Koreans don’t actually have those missiles,” said McCabe.



July 16, 2018
Presidential Palace Helsinki, Finland
My second question is, would you now, with the whole world watching, tell President Putin — would you denounce what happened in 2016? And would you warn him to never do it again?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: all I can do is ask the question. My people came to me — Dan Coats came to me and some others — they said they think it’s Russia. I have President Putin; he just said it’s not Russia.
I will say this: I don’t see any reason why it would be,
…. I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.

Q President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election? And did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?
PRESIDENT PUTIN: (As interpreted.) Yes, I did. Yes, I did. :laugh:

[MaxPenguin]

Dude seriously, why do you even bother?

The most brightest thing said on this sorry thread so far. By heaps.

[onearmedbandit]

Dude seriously, why do you even bother?

Because it turns to total shit if left alone. Then my inbox gets full of reported posts notifications. Then I have to check my email. And I don't like checking email.

[Katman]

Because it turns to total shit if left alone. Then my inbox gets full of reported posts notifications. Then I have to check my email. And I don't like checking email.

Seriously, are you looking for some sort of validation for your existence?

If so, you're totally looking in the wrong place.

[onearmedbandit]

Seriously, are you looking for some sort of validation for your existence?

You're looking in the wrong place.

Yes please, validate my existence for me through the medium of a bike forum. I didn't expect such a childish retort from you. But life is about lessons learnt.

[Bonez]

At least OAB has the balls to actually be a moderater. Unlike some with "Me" after their nick. I'm guessing some will be in the naughty corner soon enough.

[Katman]

I didn't expect such a childish retort from you. But life is about lessons learnt.

Dude, we're learning plenty about each other.

[mashman]

Yep. Previously I had a rather jaundiced view of the FBI. Some of the "terrorist plots" they uncovered didn't exist until the FBI manufactured them.

Trump though has attacked the law enforcement and intelligence services in an effort to destabilise them and/or use them for his own purposes. In doing so he created some unlikely FBI sympathisers.

There's no way the FBI could pull this off alone, because they aren't the only ones with big ears and cool toys. It takes interdepartmental cooperation to achieve such levels of "cover". Without question there are humans at those organisations that are pissed at what they are being used for, and ya have to wonder, being that the "soldiers" with access to those tools, you know, the guys who actually do the "job", just how many of those guys exist. We know of two obvious ones i.e. Manning and Snowden. How many friends do you reckon they had? And that's just those two. What about Scwharz or Assange? How many friends that are completely fed up with the bullshit that's taking place? And how's about the veterans returning from manufactured wars? How many friends do they have? Or perhaps the soldiers who are still fighting those manufactured wars? Many friends? Is there a coordinated effort by those who are fed up with the bullshit?... because there's an awful lot of them.

Maybe Trump is there at their request? I'm curious as to what we're going to see.

[Katman]

Yes please, validate my existence for me through the medium of a bike forum.

Dude, I'm not the one binning 12 posts simply due to some misguided sense of duty.

[mashman]

Dude, I'm not the one binning 12 posts simply due to some misguided sense of duty.

Really? We were warned and OAB made good. Some people class that as fair enough and something that could go by without needing comment by anyone other than the mod... but hey :bleh:

[Katman]

Really? We were warned and OAB made good. Some people class that as fair enough and something that could go by without needing comment by anyone other than the mod... but hey :bleh:

I don't give a fuck about repercussions - I never have.

I thought you'd have noticed that by now.

[mashman]

I don't give a fuck about repercussions - I never have.

I thought you'd have noticed that by now.

I wasn't concerned about you having repercussions as I realse that'd be futile, heh, however a basic level of civility doesn't go amiss sometimes (yes yes yes, that ironing is massively hyper-ironing), especially when it comes to doing what one said one was going to do on a forum that one moderates. Yes, I also realise that this post is carrying on the banal side of things, but hey...

[onearmedbandit]

Dude, we're learning plenty about each other.

I would suggest after reading your comment regarding 'validation of my existence' you have a lot more learning to do. I'll be straight up with you, your comment doesn't bother me, just surprised me 'tis all.


Dude, I'm not the one binning 12 posts simply due to some misguided sense of duty.

Have you been drinking tonight?

The site rules are clear to understand. The 12 posts I removed tonight were in violation of those rules. No infractions were handed out, I like to believe that's not necessary. However in replace of that a little reminder of what I said earlier about PD'ing this thread was timely. If you can't understand that, that's not my problem.

[MaxPenguin]

This is comedy gold. Muppets arguing on the internet over who is the biggest Muppet.

[Katman]

This is comedy gold. Muppets arguing on the internet over who is the biggest Muppet.

The more, the merrier.

[Katman]

The site rules are clear to understand. The 12 posts I removed tonight were in violation of those rules. No infractions were handed out, I like to believe that's not necessary. However in replace of that a little reminder of what I said earlier about PD'ing this thread was timely. If you can't understand that, that's not my problem.

Good for you.

[husaberg]

I don't give a fuck about repercussions - I never have.
.

I struggle to see how this relates to the 2016 US election, unless you are pretending to act like trump, by having one of his toddler temper tantrum meltdowns?

[caseye]

Lets get back on topic aye guys an girls?
pointless dribble is looking like an option here, it either makes sense , or it's relevant, if not, it's off to pink hell, no more warnings.

[MaxPenguin]

Lets get back on topic aye guys an girls?
pointless dribble is looking like an option here, it either makes sense , or it's relevant, if not, it's off to pink hell, no more warnings.

Na mate, this is way better....

[Bonez]

There's no way the FBI could pull this off alone, because they aren't the only ones with big ears and cool toys. It takes interdepartmental cooperation to achieve such levels of "cover". Without question there are humans at those organisations that are pissed at what they are being used for, and ya have to wonder, being that the "soldiers" with access to those tools, you know, the guys who actually do the "job", just how many of those guys exist. We know of two obvious ones i.e. Manning and Snowden. How many friends do you reckon they had? And that's just those two. What about Scwharz or Assange? How many friends that are completely fed up with the bullshit that's taking place? And how's about the veterans returning from manufactured wars? How many friends do they have? Or perhaps the soldiers who are still fighting those manufactured wars? Many friends? Is there a coordinated effort by those who are fed up with the bullshit?... because there's an awful lot of them.

Maybe Trump is there at their request? I'm curious as to what we're going to see. Admiral Rogers, now retired. discovered shenanigans with a number of FBI contractors searching for Trump campain related stuff on the NSA databasre and quickly shut there access down. Quietly told the Trump team without a word to Obmuma. I fully understand why Trump is weary of them.

[Laava]

https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fv%2Ft1.0-9%2F80657102_2266107833493537_7437364982653648896_ n.jpg%3F_nc_cat%3D1%26_nc_oc%3DAQk7ep9qDoH_Oj5CLWf mlg_12122vvMpmaWbXacTzN7uC7Jf6sIqGalv3y-sCiqbpaA%26_nc_ht%3Dscontent-mad1-1.xx%26oh%3D8f1c40981b1df7f71163ed10c641c7ec%26oe% 3D5E77D8D3&hash=5ba74dcc4dcd154f5724e2a7d397fbe9

[jasonu]

Like yourself?

Are you prepared to turn a blind eye to the sins of the FBI simply because it suits your agenda?

Of course he will.
And when they do something he doesn't like he'll put them on ignore.

[jasonu]

Because it turns to total shit if left alone. Then my inbox gets full of reported posts notifications. Then I have to check my email. And I don't like checking email.

If you block Husaberg that issue will go away.

[husaberg]

If you block Husaberg that issue will go away.

Odd thing for you to say because a a while a go a mod questioned me about a photo of you in your "Trump T shirt"
i posted it, after you claimed it was ridiculous to claim you were a trump supporter in any way.
Turns out "someone from america" reported and claimed had "they had never posted it KB prior to me posting it"
Only trouble was you had posted it on KB previously aye. Oh how i laughed.:nya:
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/183454-Another-piece-of-Kiwiana-down-the-drain?p=1131056676&highlight=trump+punched#post1131056676

That"DUDE" Katman used to blame Bogan for all his infractions then TDL now its me he blames the only thing in common is he is the one writing the the posts that get infracted.

[sidecar bob]

Dude, we're learning plenty about each other.

Dude. . . that's two posts in a row you started with Dude. You must be feeling particularly smug to be pumping out that level of Dude count.

[Katman]

Katman used to blame Bogan for all his infractions then TDL now its me he blames the only thing in common is he is the one writing the the posts that get infracted.

Except I've never blamed TDL for my infractions.

For all his faults he's always managed to take what he's given without having to go crying to the moderators.

[TheDemonLord]

That"DUDE" Katman used to blame Bogan for all his infractions then TDL now its me he blames the only thing in common is he is the one writing the the posts that get infracted.

I think I've infracted Katman maybe twice?

As a general rule, I don't give out Red Rep nor do I report posts simply because I disagree with their content.

[pritch]

Two of the better tweets from overnight.

[jasonu]

Odd thing for you to say because a a while a go a mod questioned me about a photo of you in your "Trump T shirt"
i posted it, after you claimed it was ridiculous to claim you were a trump supporter in any way.
Turns out "someone from america" reported and claimed had "they had never posted it KB prior to me posting it"
Only trouble was you had posted it on KB previously aye. Oh how i laughed.:nya:
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/183454-Another-piece-of-Kiwiana-down-the-drain?p=1131056676&highlight=trump+punched#post1131056676


Yes I did get a little egg on my face over that one. Looking back it was amusing.
It is the one and only time I have complained to the kB police.
How many complaints have you sent this week?

[austingtir]

Yep, This thread and the Dems sham impeachment is proof they walk among us.

Truly amazing how many stupid people are running around loose.

And driving cars.

And riding bikes..

And having children...




I am comfortable with the fact the Dems will eventually pay dearly for what they are doing.


"The Senate must be unrestricted to conduct 'other' important business.
If [D]s knew Senate would not vote to convict - why proceed?
How long does a typical Senate impeachment trial take?
Can the Senate conduct 'other' business during this time?
No.
What 'value' might this have for [D]s?
Barr/Durham working in secret?
Senate working openly?
'Value' of public learning the truth prior to i_unseal?
Propaganda_push failing.
Transparency & Accountability is the only way forward to save the Republic.
This is not another 4-year election.
Game theory."

[mashman]

Admiral Rogers, now retired. discovered shenanigans with a number of FBI contractors searching for Trump campain related stuff on the NSA databasre and quickly shut there access down. Quietly told the Trump team without a word to Obmuma. I fully understand why Trump is weary of them.

A quick look shows a few people resigning too

Another Pentagon Official Announces Resignation, Marking Fifth Key DoD Departure Within Seven Days (https://www.newsweek.com/another-pentagon-official-announces-resignation-marking-fifth-key-dod-departure-within-seven-days-1478118)

[mashman]

Two of the better tweets from overnight.

Speaker of the House (https://twitter.com/M2Madness/status/1207699372055711744) on impeachment. Speaker indeed. I guess her auto-prompt failed.

Oh, and the first reply from Kathleen is a beaut...

[oldrider]

So OK Trump has been impeached ............................. So OK Trump has been impeached .................................................. .......... So OK Trump has been impeached .................................. :wait::wait::zzzz::sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

[Bonez]

So OK Trump has been impeached ............................. So OK Trump has been impeached .................................................. .......... So OK Trump has been impeached .................................. :wait::wait::zzzz::sleep: :sleep: :sleep:Is that some kind of fruit salad?

[oldrider]

Is that some kind of fruit salad?

May as well be - take a good look around, this sort of bullshit is usually just a distraction to keep the world from looking at something serious going on. :msn-wink: - Iran anybody?

[pritch]

So at some stage the impeachment process will head to the US Senate - or not. The US Senate is about as democratic as the DPRK (North Korea).

I read this morning that representatives of just 7% of the population can exonerate Trump. Every state has two senators. There is a huge disparity in the numbers of people represented by each senator. Some senators probably represent more horses than people.

So I just did a quick check of some 2018 population statistics.

New York 19.54 million
California 39.56 million

North Dakota 760,077
South Dakota 882,235

So between them New York and California have four senators representing some sixty million people.
The Dakotas also have four senators representing somewhat over one and a half million people.

From memory there are seven states with fourteen senators that have a combined population less than California with just the two.

If you hear senators talking democratic process, don't laugh so hard you spill your drink.

[Bonez]

The US is a constitutional republic you Dingbat. Ammend the Constitution if you don't like it. Dems bag on about the Democratic processes constantly but don't like the results.

The Forefathers made sure that a couple of states couldn't control the whole country.

[TheDemonLord]

So at some stage the impeachment process will head to the US Senate - or not. The US Senate is about as democratic as the DPRK (North Korea).

I read this morning that representatives of just 7% of the population can exonerate Trump. Every state has two senators. There is a huge disparity in the numbers of people represented by each senator. Some senators probably represent more horses than people.

So I just did a quick check of some 2018 population statistics.

New York 19.54 million
California 39.56 million

North Dakota 760,077
South Dakota 882,235

So between them New York and California have four senators representing some sixty million people.
The Dakotas also have four senators representing somewhat over one and a half million people.

From memory there are seven states with fourteen senators that have a combined population less than California with just the two.

If you hear senators talking democratic process, don't laugh so hard you spill your drink.

Then you clearly have no clue about the Electoral College or the deliberate manner in which the US political system was setup.

[Katman]

Then you clearly have no clue about the Electoral College or the deliberate manner in which the US political system was setup.

Careful, or you'll end up on his ignore list.

[oldrider]

[quote]The ADL labels all resistance to Jewish hegemony as hatred. That's like Sept. 1, 1939 Nazis calling Polish resistance "hate." [un quote] :- https://www.henrymakow.com/

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[pritch]

Careful, or you'll end up on his ignore list.

He's been there for a while. That little bit of nonsense you quoted is a good enough example of why.

[pritch]

Y'all (well the more enlightened among you) will have noticed the hypocrisy of some of the Republicans who passionately spoke for the impeachment of Clinton for telling a lie about a blow job, then opposed the impeachment of Trump who faced far more serious charges.

The following is an example of rare consistency, they supported impeachment on both occasions. Being who they are, this could be in the nature of a seismic event.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

[pritch]

While we wait for whatever it is we are waiting for, some Christmas reading.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/19/avoid-removal-trump-only-needs-senators-representing-percent-country-support-him/

[austingtir]

If you lot thought Boris wrecked Corbyn you aint seen nothing yet.

2020 is going to be an absolute landslide for Trump by the time this impeachment circus backfires on the dems in spectacular fashion.


Im seeing posters on there who were ardent lefties even only 6 months ago voting for Trump 100%.

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=177851461&page=1


Even social media in this country has totally flipped from 3 years ago. If I went on FB one news or newshub 3 years ago I would see almost across the board anti trump sentiment. Now its almost the complete opposite on many Trump articles on those fb pages.

People are waking up. But its a slow process.

[jasonu]

So at some stage the impeachment process will head to the US Senate - or not. The US Senate is about as democratic as the DPRK (North Korea).

I read this morning that representatives of just 7% of the population can exonerate Trump. Every state has two senators. There is a huge disparity in the numbers of people represented by each senator. Some senators probably represent more horses than people.

So I just did a quick check of some 2018 population statistics.

New York 19.54 million
California 39.56 million

North Dakota 760,077
South Dakota 882,235

So between them New York and California have four senators representing some sixty million people.
The Dakotas also have four senators representing somewhat over one and a half million people.

From memory there are seven states with fourteen senators that have a combined population less than California with just the two.

If you hear senators talking democratic process, don't laugh so hard you spill your drink.

and NZ has a deputy PM that no one voted for and a PM that almost no one voted for. So what's your point???

[Bonez]

and NZ has a deputy PM that no one voted for and a PM that almost no one voted for. So what's your point???He doesn't have any. Just a talking head full of crap. The two articles of impeachment don't even state any high crimes or mistimeaners to charge Truimp with. Lets see if Pelosi presents them in front of the Senate.

This interveiw with Ted Cruz is interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUq3AtM-oB8

[sugilite]

If you lot thought Boris wrecked Corbyn you aint seen nothing yet.

2020 is going to be an absolute landslide for Trump by the time this impeachment circus backfires on the dems in spectacular fashion.


Im seeing posters on there who were ardent lefties even only 6 months ago voting for Trump 100%.

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=177851461&page=1


Even social media in this country has totally flipped from 3 years ago. If I went on FB one news or newshub 3 years ago I would see almost across the board anti trump sentiment. Now its almost the complete opposite on many Trump articles on those fb pages.

People are waking up. But its a slow process.

I'm comfortable a president with consistent 40% approval ratings will not be winning by a landslide.
Demacrats are certainly doing their best to hand him victory in2020, I'll give you that.

[oldrider]

I'm comfortable a president with consistent 40% approval ratings will not be winning by a landslide.
Demacrats are certainly doing their best to hand him victory in2020, I'll give you that.

True! - Democrats appear to have developed a lemming gene and it is taking them over completely! - :msn-wink: - Maybe their only way back will be to create a civil war? :rolleyes: - :wait:

Why is impeachment being pushed so relentlessly? - Once Trump has been acquitted he can not be impeached again - think about the consequences of that - motive to the madness perhaps?

[austingtir]

I'm comfortable a president with consistent 40% approval ratings will not be winning by a landslide.
Demacrats are certainly doing their best to hand him victory in2020, I'll give you that.


Im also comfortable that your polls are bullshit. Arent these the same polls saying hilldog would win by 90+%???


If even the fake stream media is saying Trump has 40+% approval I bet in actuality its way way higher than that.

[husaberg]

It Took A Long Time For Republicans To Abandon Nixon
When the House of Representatives voted in February 1974 to give the House Judiciary Committee subpoena power to investigate Nixon, it did not have the weight of public opinion behind it. According to a poll conducted by Gallup just days before the vote, only 38 percent of Americans were in favor of impeachment.


POLITICO/Morning Consult poll conducted in the immediate aftermath of the vote.
The narrow majority who approve, 52 percent, is greater than the 43 percent who disapprove of the House voting to impeach Trump, the poll shows. Five percent of voters have no opinion on Trump’s impeachment.

support for Nixon continued to plunge throughout the long summer of 1973, while former White House lawyer John Dean testified in Senate hearings that the president had been involved in a cover-up of the burglary and a White House aide confirmed in closed-door testimony that Nixon had set up a secret White House taping system. And by the time of October’s Saturday Night Massacre — where Nixon ordered the firing of special prosecutor Archibald Cox, who had been demanding those tapes, and the closing of the special prosecutor’s investigation — his approval rating had plunged to 27 percent, which is about where it stayed until Nixon resigned.

As Nixon’s approval ratings fell, support for impeachment was rising more gradually, reaching solid majority support by early August 1974. That was right in the midst of the crucial two-week period when the Supreme Court ordered Nixon to turn over the White House tapes, the House Judiciary Committee voted to approve three articles of impeachment and Nixon released the transcript of what became known as the “smoking gun” tape, which showed that he had helped orchestrate the cover-up. His support among his allies (who had included some conservative southern Democrats as well as Republicans) had already started to erode significantly, but it was the “smoking gun” tape that finally forced his resignation on August 8, before the House could vote on impeachment. At that point, the public was clearly behind impeachment, although a significant minority of Americans — including most Republicans — still didn’t think Nixon should be removed from office.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_DrUaJEBtE

[pritch]

Once Trump has been acquitted he can not be impeached again

I haven't seen that before. It would be understandable that he couldn't be impeached for the same offences, but he commits crimes nearly every day and there's likely a whole lot haven't come to light yet.

If they get his financial records and tax returns he'll be toast. If.

[austingtir]

I haven't seen that before. It would be understandable that he couldn't be impeached for the same offences, but he commits crimes nearly every day and there's likely a whole lot haven't come to light yet.

If they get his financial records and tax returns he'll be toast. If.


Jesus you are delusional.



































Get help srs.

[husaberg]

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/12/christianity-today-trump-evangelicals-impeachment.html
if the religious right turn on him hes a dead duck, i cant see how they would ever turn on a repugnantican though no mater what lies he tells. If hes a republicken hes the chief sky pixies choice.:rolleyes:

[caseye]

So far, So good, you guys keep this on track, it stays current.
For myself, heres a declaration, He's not going to be impeached, not by a country mile and God help those who,tried!
I reserve the right to express my opinion. Mod or not!

[Katman]

So far, So good, you guys keep this on track, it stays current.


Really? Could you be any more patronising?

No wonder the moderators are seen as a fucking joke here.

[Bonez]

Nancy threatened Dems with competition at the next election if they voted ney. She also hasn't passed the articles of impeachment to the Senate.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePn8KOU7_5g

[husaberg]

Really? Could you be any more patronising?

No wonder the moderators are seen as a fucking joke here.

I think you will find hes being condescending by behaving in a patronizing manner. Something you try to do but never quite pull off as you cant generate any respect to achieve the high ground.
I notice its only threads you post in that get sent to PD. its an rather telling statistic that links your involvement with a thread and its likelyhood of ending up in PD.:psst:



So far, So good, you guys keep this on track, it stays current.
For myself, heres a declaration, He's not going to be impeached, not by a country mile and God help those who,tried!
I reserve the right to express my opinion. Mod or not!

Its pretty obvious the impeachment is unlikely to oust The orangatan at this stage unless some people in his enterage are subpoenaed (Unlikely)as there is not currently the numbers in the senate which is controlled by the repungnalickens

[caseye]

Really? Could you be any more patronising?

No wonder the moderators are seen as a fucking joke here.

KM, the only Joke around here is you!
You had a message, it was brutal and 100% correct. Now though, it's all over the show and gives nothing to anyone. I wish I was debating with that guy!

[Katman]

KM, the only Joke around here is you!


This from the moderator who in the past has tried to rustle up KB lynch mobs and considers gay people an abomination.

The moderator system has become a caricature of itself.

[Laava]

This from the moderator who in the past has tried to rustle up KB lynch mobs and considers gay people an abomination.

The moderator system has become a caricature of itself.
Boo hoo, what a fucking cry baby!

[Bonez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePn8KOU7_5g

[Katman]

Boo hoo, what a fucking cry baby!

Just pointing out the level of bigotry he holds.

And here's the thing - bigots don't make good moderators.

[husaberg]

Just pointing out the level of bigotry he holds.

And here's the thing - bigots don't make good moderators.
Cool then, you will not mind me pointing out your own bigotry then, ESP how calling out casye makes you look.
Because when i read the word bigot, your's is the first (After oldie of course) to spring to mind.
You do remember all that bigoted and racist material you have posted on Kb about Muslims and Jews.
On the other hand I dont recall anything noteworthy from casye.
What do you "reminder distinctly" casye saying.

Because a quick search on KB shows the only time he has used the word abomination is here. where it had nothing to do with homosexuals
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/42615-The-firearm-thread/page552?p=1131127895#post1131127895
ps none of your posts this thread relate to the election, why are you even posting on here?

[Bonez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePn8KOU7_5g

[husaberg]

Repugnantchicken governor Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin
Micah Schoettle was in the second year of a 23-year prison sentence when Bevin pardoned him of rape, sodomy and other sexual crimes last week.
https://apnews.com/701ee2cd97e2adfe12ee3eb9d3e6e770

[pritch]

Repugnantchicken governor Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin
Micah Schoettle was in the second year of a 23-year prison sentence when Bevin pardoned him of rape, sodomy and other sexual crimes last week.
https://apnews.com/701ee2cd97e2adfe12ee3eb9d3e6e770

When asked why he had pardoned a child rapist he said, "Which one?"

It's common for Governors to pardon prisoners as they leave the job, but his selection of child rapists and a guy who beheaded his girlfriend, among others, is somewhat disturbing.

[husaberg]

When asked why he had pardoned a child rapist he said, "Which one?"

It's common for Governors to pardon prisoners as they leave the job, but his selection of child rapists and a guy who beheaded his girlfriend, among others, is somewhat disturbing.

by child rapist and murderers do you mean republican campaign donors...
its common for some to be issued but not 428 of them.
Patrick Baker had donated $21,500 to Bevin’s political campaign funds before the commutation.
They included further sexual offenders. Dayton Jones, who Bevin set free after three years of a 15-year sentence, had pleaded guilty to raping a boy aged 15 whose bowel he ruptured with a sex toy
Charles Phelps had his name removed from the sex offender registry by Bevin having pleaded guilty in 2013 to child abuse images offences and sexual conduct with minors.
Delmar Partin was convicted of beheading a female co-worker and hiding her mutilated body in a barrel;
Irvin Edge had hired a hitman to murder his business partner at home in front of his family
Blake Walker had killed his own parents.
The sister of the murdered home owner, Donald Mills, was blunt after she learnt that Patrick Baker was now out.
“Matt Bevin can rot in hell,” she said.

[MaxPenguin]

Who on here actually thinks the us system is a good model?

[austingtir]

Who on here actually thinks the us system is a good model?


Its only gone to shit because of the erosion of laws put in place to stop the system falling apart.

I think it was based on a good premise but when you have outright scumbags elected to congress and pretty much every other political position in the land who are just there to enrich themselves the system is never going to work as it should. ALL the top democrats to a man are laundering money and taking bribes for political kick backs all over the shop. Im sure all the top republicans are in on the gig too but we have the evidence now to prove what the likes of the clintons, biden and pelosi have been doing and thats why they are freaking out so much about Trump.

That is where the USA has lost its way. And its nothing to do with Trump. This was set in motion decades if not a century ago. If anything he's the only one in the last 50-100 years who seems intent on fixing SOME of the issues.


And its still better than the bolshevik revolution the likes of the greens and Ardern want to have here.
We literally have a system similar Germany's. I dont think we are in any position to act like our system is better than even the USA's. IF anything I think we should move to Australias. No list mp's. And ALL reps are elected by the people!

[Bonez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp71VWgqURQ

[Bonez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp71VWgqURQ

[Bonez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-niLFoD7yw

[Bonez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EInen7D6vn0

[pritch]

Who on here actually thinks the us system is a good model?

Not me. Their cash bail system is grossly unjust. The impecunious who can't make bail stay locked up. Currently there are thousands in prison who have not been found guilty of any crime, they just can't raise the sum required to be released on bail. In some states the court system is broken, cases can take years to get to court meanwhile people remain incarcerated. Modern day debtors prisons in a country where debtors prisons are illegal.

People with money just pay up and walk.

The story of Kalief Browder was particularly tragic. Three years on Rikers Island, much of it in solitary, for a crime he didn't commit and for which he was never tried. Google has lots of links.

[mashman]

Who on here actually thinks the us system is a good model?

A good model for what? And what countries do have a good model for the same what that don't result in the same things happening there? The systems are fine. The model is shit i.e. sell bits of planet for profit.

[husaberg]

Tim Nolan was once riding high as a top-ranking judge and Donald Trump’s campaign manager in Kentucky, but now he is headed to prison for the next 20 years after being convicted on several counts of child sex trafficking.
In 2017, Nolan was charged with 28 felonies including charges of rape, human trafficking, witness tampering, prostitution, unlawful transaction with a minor and sodomy. There were 22 victims, including eight juveniles.
Nolan initially pled not guilty to the charges on May 12, 2017. On February 9, 2018 at age 71, he pled guilty to 21 counts going back to 2004 and included 19 victims including juveniles. The agreement called for 20 years in prison and to pay a $100K fine. He entered an Alford plea for some charges which means he doesn't admit to committing the act but believes the evidence is too strong for him to prevail at trial.

Trump's Oklahoma campaign chair to plead guilt to child sex trafficking
Ralph Shortey, a former Oklahoma state senator who last year served as Donald Trump's campaign chair in the state.
"We've made it very clear that this isn’t about him being gay. It’s about him being a child predator and a sex trafficker and a hypocrite," Stevenson said. "He was also caught with child pornography of both males and females of a much younger age. He's an equal opportunity predator."

Popular Republican pastor of largest Christian music festival in country pleads guilty to molesting five children, Harry Thomas, 75 receives 18 years in prison:

Republican “family values” Gov. of Missouri Eric Greitens formally indicted by grand jury for revenge porn, taking nude photos of woman without her consent.

A former New Jersey pastor who co-founded the Creation Festival, which bills itself as the country's largest Christian music festival, has been sentenced to 18 years in prison for sexually assaulting multiple young children.

As national Republicans throw support behind accused pedophile Roy Moore
The alleged sex pervert is Roy Moore, a Republican Bible-thumper running in Alabama against a Democrat, Doug Jones, in a special election on Dec. 12 to fill the seat vacated by Attorney General Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

Moore recently denied accusations from nine women that he hit on them or worse when they were in their teens and he was in his 30s. One woman said Moore fondled her through her exposed underwear when she was 14 and he was 32. Another said Moore took liberties in a parked car in a dark parking lot by a trash bin.

On Anderson Cooper 360 on CNN, substitute host Berman was even more succinct than Hayes.

“The president of the United States of America is backing a candidate who is credibly accused of molesting a 14-year-old girl,” Berman said. Later in the show, Berman called Trump’s support for Moore “a calculated decision to back an accused child molester.”




PREDATORS TRUMP DEFENDED
• Rob Porter
• Steve Wynn
• Steve Bannon
• Bill O’Reilly
• Corey Lewandowski
• Roger Ailes
• Andrew Puzder
• Mike Tyson
• Donald Trump

“Trust me I will only hire the best people. BELIEVE ME! They will be great.”#FridayFeeling

[austingtir]

Tim Nolan was once riding high as a top-ranking judge and Donald Trump’s campaign manager in Kentucky, but now he is headed to prison for the next 20 years after being convicted on several counts of child sex trafficking.
In 2017, Nolan was charged with 28 felonies including charges of rape, human trafficking, witness tampering, prostitution, unlawful transaction with a minor and sodomy. There were 22 victims, including eight juveniles.
Nolan initially pled not guilty to the charges on May 12, 2017. On February 9, 2018 at age 71, he pled guilty to 21 counts going back to 2004 and included 19 victims including juveniles. The agreement called for 20 years in prison and to pay a $100K fine. He entered an Alford plea for some charges which means he doesn't admit to committing the act but believes the evidence is too strong for him to prevail at trial.

Trump's Oklahoma campaign chair to plead guilt to child sex trafficking
Ralph Shortey, a former Oklahoma state senator who last year served as Donald Trump's campaign chair in the state.
"We've made it very clear that this isn’t about him being gay. It’s about him being a child predator and a sex trafficker and a hypocrite," Stevenson said. "He was also caught with child pornography of both males and females of a much younger age. He's an equal opportunity predator."

Popular Republican pastor of largest Christian music festival in country pleads guilty to molesting five children, Harry Thomas, 75 receives 18 years in prison:

Republican “family values” Gov. of Missouri Eric Greitens formally indicted by grand jury for revenge porn, taking nude photos of woman without her consent.

A former New Jersey pastor who co-founded the Creation Festival, which bills itself as the country's largest Christian music festival, has been sentenced to 18 years in prison for sexually assaulting multiple young children.

As national Republicans throw support behind accused pedophile Roy Moore
The alleged sex pervert is Roy Moore, a Republican Bible-thumper running in Alabama against a Democrat, Doug Jones, in a special election on Dec. 12 to fill the seat vacated by Attorney General Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

Moore recently denied accusations from nine women that he hit on them or worse when they were in their teens and he was in his 30s. One woman said Moore fondled her through her exposed underwear when she was 14 and he was 32. Another said Moore took liberties in a parked car in a dark parking lot by a trash bin.

On Anderson Cooper 360 on CNN, substitute host Berman was even more succinct than Hayes.

“The president of the United States of America is backing a candidate who is credibly accused of molesting a 14-year-old girl,” Berman said. Later in the show, Berman called Trump’s support for Moore “a calculated decision to back an accused child molester.”




PREDATORS TRUMP DEFENDED
• Rob Porter
• Steve Wynn
• Steve Bannon
• Bill O’Reilly
• Corey Lewandowski
• Roger Ailes
• Andrew Puzder
• Mike Tyson
• Donald Trump

“Trust me I will only hire the best people. BELIEVE ME! They will be great.”#FridayFeeling


https://i.imgur.com/0suTBPs.gif


Aint nobody reading that.

[husaberg]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/08/30/13/17873722-0-image-a-18_1567167290208.jpghttps://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/07/trump-epstein-wide.jpg?resize=865,452https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/from-left-american-real-estate-developer-donald-trump-and-news-photo-700334384-1562515823.jpg
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/754e2a47cf91895bf04cd1319558f4b2e84921f3/0_743_3600_2160/master/3600.jpg
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5de7e17121000058df34f02e.jpeg

[Bonez]

How about the pics of Obama and Epstien? Or Clinton and Epstien? Or.........

[husaberg]

How about the pics of Obama and Epstien? Or Clinton and Epstien? Or.........

They never falsely claimed not to know Andrew nor have met him.
he has met the prince on numerous occasions. The two have been pictured together at various events, including a party at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort on 12 February 2000, at which Trump was also separately pictured with Epstein.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/03/photos-contradict-trumps-claim-not-to-know-prince-andrew
nor did they appoint the The guy that cut Epstein the deal of the century and give a heap of other co-conspirators immunity from procescution as United States secretary of labor.

In 2007–2008, as U.S. attorney, Acosta approved a plea deal that required Jeffrey Epstein to plead guilty to a state charge of solicitation for the purposes of prostitution involving a 14-year-old girl, a deal which required he register as a sex offender and pay restitution to victims as part of a federal non-prosecution agreement. The prosecutors had identified 36 victims of Epstein, most of them having no prior knowledge of the agreement and no opportunity to give input. The deal has been the subject of long-term criticism by the Miami Herald and others due to its leniency and secrecy. After Epstein's arrest in July 2019 on sex trafficking charges, Acosta faced renewed and harsher criticism for his role in the 2008 non-prosecution agreement, as well as calls for his resignation; he resigned on July 19

[Bonez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqyHeQe40DE

[austingtir]

They never falsely claimed not to know Andrew nor have met him.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/03/photos-contradict-trumps-claim-not-to-know-prince-andrew
nor did they appoint the The guy that cut Epstein the deal of the century and give a heap of other co-conspirators immunity from procescution as United States secretary of labor.


He actually said he didnt personally know him. Theres a big difference between meeting and happening to have a photo taken with someone and actually knowing them.

But I wouldnt expect someone with stage 5 TDS to get these simple things.

[Bonez]

Lets not forgot Trump co-opperated with authorities in that Epstien investigation. He also permanently banned Epstien from his clubs for hitting on a staff members daughter.

[Bonez]

Pelosi still hasn't handed over the articles of impeachment to the Senate.

[oldrider]

Theatre - theatre - theatre - :corn:

[husaberg]

He actually said he didnt personally know him. Theres a big difference between meeting and happening to have a photo taken with someone and actually knowing them.

But I wouldnt expect someone with stage 5 TDS to get these simple things.
He has met him more than one time, he was his guest at Maralago, as was Epstein at the same time. Neither were members as they were their as trumps personal guests.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-6igYrXUAAjW4z.jpg
He also said he had never met Putin and later he had not then he was his friend then he was not.

Since 2013 — when Trump’s Miss Universe pageant was held in Moscow — Trump has at least nine times claimed to have spoken to, met, or made contact with Putin. But as the 2016 campaign wore on and his statements on Putin began to attract more scrutiny, Trump changed course, denying having ever met the Russian president.
July 2016 news conference.
“I never met Putin,” Trump said at a July 2016 news conference. “I don’t know who Putin is. He said one nice thing about me. He said I'm a genius. I said thank you very much to the newspaper and that was the end of it. I never met Putin.”


Oct. 17, 2013
Trump tells David Letterman that he’s done “a lot of business with the Russians” and says they are “smart” and “tough” and that they don’t look “so dumb right now.” He calls Putin a “tough guy” and says that he “met him once.”

November 2013
Trump says he has a relationship with Vladimir Putin:
“I do have a relationship and I can tell you that he’s very interested in what we’re doing here today,” he said on MSNBC of the Miss Universe pageant. “He’s probably very interested in what you and I are saying today, and I’m sure he’s going to be seeing it in some form, but I do have a relationship with him and I think it’s very interesting to see what’s happened.”

Feb. 10, 2014
Trump says Putin contacted him during Miss Universe and was “so nice:”
“When I went to Russia with the Miss Universe pageant, (Putin) contacted me and was so nice.

March 6, 2014
Trump tells a crowd at CPAC that Putin sent him a present during Miss Universe with a note and he “spoke to all of his people.”

April 12, 2014
Trump tells Fox Business’ Eric Bolling that Putin was nice to him during Miss Universe.
“We just left Moscow,” Trump said. “He could not have been nicer. He was so nice and so everything. But you have to give him credit that what he’s doing for that country in terms of their world prestige is very strong.”

May 27, 2014
Speaking at the National Press Club, Trump says he spoke “indirectly and directly” with Putin at Miss Universe.
”I own Miss Universe, I was in Russia, I was in Moscow recently and I spoke, indirectly and directly, with President Putin, who could not have been nicer, and we had a tremendous success.”

March 18, 2015
Trump tells the Daily Mail about his relationship with Putin: “the relationship is great, and it would be great if I had the position I should have.”
Trump also said he received “a gift from Putin – an award and a beautiful letter.

June 29, 2015
Speaking on Putin, Trump says he “got to know these guys well” during Miss Universe.
“I had the Miss Universe over there two years ago,” Trump tells the City Club of Chicago. “I got to know these guys well. We can get along with them well. We can get along with them well.”

Sept. 28, 2015
Trump tells reporters at Trump Tower that “Putin is a nicer person than I am.”

Oct. 6, 2015
Trump tells conservative radio host Michael Savage he’s met Vladimir Putin.
“Yes,” Trump says. “Yes, a long time ago. We got along great, by the way.”

Feb. 17, 2016
Trump says at a rally that he has no relationship with Putin.
"I have no relationship with him other than he called me a genius,”

July 27, 2016
Trump tells a local Miami CBS affiliate that he has nothing to do with Russia and has never met Putin, saying, “But I have nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do, I never met Putin, I have nothing to do with Russia whatsoever.”

Oct. 9, 2016
Trump said at presidential debate: “I don’t know Putin."

Feb. 16, 2017
Trump says at a news conference that he has no deals in Russia:
“And I can tell you, speaking for myself, I own nothing in Russia. I have no loans in Russia. I don't have any deals in Russia. President Putin called me up very nicely to congratulate me on the win of the election,” Trump said.

[oldrider]

An aerial shot of the impeachment hearings:- :msn-wink: - https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/1208545816790654977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - :corn:

[jasonu]

He has mt him more than one time he was his guest at Mar lago as was epstine at the same time neither were members they were their as trumps personal guests.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-6igYrXUAAjW4z.jpg
He also said he had never met Putin and later he had not then he was his friend then he was not.

Since 2013 — when Trump’s Miss Universe pageant was held in Moscow — Trump has at least nine times claimed to have spoken to, met, or made contact with Putin. But as the 2016 campaign wore on and his statements on Putin began to attract more scrutiny, Trump changed course, denying having ever met the Russian president.
July 2016 news conference.
“I never met Putin,” Trump said at a July 2016 news conference. “I don’t know who Putin is. He said one nice thing about me. He said I'm a genius. I said thank you very much to the newspaper and that was the end of it. I never met Putin.”


Oct. 17, 2013
Trump tells David Letterman that he’s done “a lot of business with the Russians” and says they are “smart” and “tough” and that they don’t look “so dumb right now.” He calls Putin a “tough guy” and says that he “met him once.”

November 2013
Trump says he has a relationship with Vladimir Putin:
“I do have a relationship and I can tell you that he’s very interested in what we’re doing here today,” he said on MSNBC of the Miss Universe pageant. “He’s probably very interested in what you and I are saying today, and I’m sure he’s going to be seeing it in some form, but I do have a relationship with him and I think it’s very interesting to see what’s happened.”

Feb. 10, 2014
Trump says Putin contacted him during Miss Universe and was “so nice:”
“When I went to Russia with the Miss Universe pageant, (Putin) contacted me and was so nice.

March 6, 2014
Trump tells a crowd at CPAC that Putin sent him a present during Miss Universe with a note and he “spoke to all of his people.”

April 12, 2014
Trump tells Fox Business’ Eric Bolling that Putin was nice to him during Miss Universe.
“We just left Moscow,” Trump said. “He could not have been nicer. He was so nice and so everything. But you have to give him credit that what he’s doing for that country in terms of their world prestige is very strong.”

May 27, 2014
Speaking at the National Press Club, Trump says he spoke “indirectly and directly” with Putin at Miss Universe.
”I own Miss Universe, I was in Russia, I was in Moscow recently and I spoke, indirectly and directly, with President Putin, who could not have been nicer, and we had a tremendous success.”

March 18, 2015
Trump tells the Daily Mail about his relationship with Putin: “the relationship is great, and it would be great if I had the position I should have.”
Trump also said he received “a gift from Putin – an award and a beautiful letter.

June 29, 2015
Speaking on Putin, Trump says he “got to know these guys well” during Miss Universe.
“I had the Miss Universe over there two years ago,” Trump tells the City Club of Chicago. “I got to know these guys well. We can get along with them well. We can get along with them well.”

Sept. 28, 2015
Trump tells reporters at Trump Tower that “Putin is a nicer person than I am.”

Oct. 6, 2015
Trump tells conservative radio host Michael Savage he’s met Vladimir Putin.
“Yes,” Trump says. “Yes, a long time ago. We got along great, by the way.”

Feb. 17, 2016
Trump says at a rally that he has no relationship with Putin.
"I have no relationship with him other than he called me a genius,”

July 27, 2016
Trump tells a local Miami CBS affiliate that he has nothing to do with Russia and has never met Putin, saying, “But I have nothing to do with Russia, nothing to do, I never met Putin, I have nothing to do with Russia whatsoever.”

Oct. 9, 2016
Trump said at presidential debate: “I don’t know Putin."

Feb. 16, 2017
Trump says at a news conference that he has no deals in Russia:
“And I can tell you, speaking for myself, I own nothing in Russia. I have no loans in Russia. I don't have any deals in Russia. President Putin called me up very nicely to congratulate me on the win of the election,” Trump said.

There are at least 7 grammatical, punctuation and spelling mistakes in the first sentence alone.

[Bonez]

There are at least 7 grammatical, punctuation and spelling mistakes in the first sentence alone.He does this quite often. Where's pritch's ridicule of this poster?

[austingtir]

He does this quite often. Where's pritch's ridicule of this poster?


Pritch is Husa's half sister didnt you know?

[husaberg]

There are at least 7 grammatical, punctuation and spelling mistakes in the first sentence alone.

You really need to be a bit more less hypocritical with what you post.

Did that make you feel superior or did it give you a boner?

Serious question. Do you honestly think anyone gives a fuck what you say or think or even bothers to read your endless copy and pastes and multiple links to complete bullshit?

If you block Husaberg that issue will go away.


Of course the fact you couldn't refute any the trump lies was rather telling. It's almost like if you admit hes clearly lying you will have to face up to the facts and start questioning why it is you unquestionably fall for his obvious lies.
the fact that austin and bones plus his rather obvious new account log in should be a hint you are on the wrong side of logic.

[austingtir]

You really need to be a bit more less hypocritical with what you post.

Of course the fact you couldn't refute any the trump lies was rather telling. It's almost like if you admit hes clearly lying you will have to face up to the facts and start questioning why it is you unquestionably fall for his obvious lies.
the fact that austin and bones plus his rather obvious new account log in should be a hint you are on the wrong side of logic.



https://tmq2.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/barr-schiff.gif



LMAO @ the cope of this guy. Now he's saying im logging in as this Bones chap. Man I get around dont I!? Who was that other chap I was supposedly posting as on here again?


Who am I going to be postin as next week? Only the Ruskies under Huza's bed know!!!


Rent free old chap RENT FREE!!!

[Swoop]

Trump has begun 2024 campaign and is eligible to serve third term, senior Republican says (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-begun-2024-campaign-eligible-015357541.html)

Utter bullshit.

The US Constitution says a Prez may serve TWO terms. There are no extra clauses or "reset the clock" deals.

Prime example would have been Clinton after his impeachment, and he served the designated 2 terms.

[mashman]

Utter bullshit.

The US Constitution says a Prez may serve TWO terms. There are no extra clauses or "reset the clock" deals.

Prime example would have been Clinton after his impeachment, and he served the designated 2 terms.

They're called Amendments for a reason... and "elected" is a loose term.

[pritch]

Utter bullshit.

The US Constitution says a Prez may serve TWO terms. There are no extra clauses or "reset the clock" deals.



That's a relatively recent amendment. Franklin D Roosevelt died in office during his fourth term. Apparently he is the only president to serve more than two terms. The two term limit was formalised following his extended tenure.

[husaberg]

LMAO @ the cope of this guy. Now he's saying im logging in as this Bones chap. Man I get around dont I!? Who was that other chap I was supposedly posting as on here again?
Who am I going to be postin as next week? Only the Ruskies under Huza's bed know!!!
Rent free old chap RENT FREE!!!


the fact that austin and bones plus his rather obvious new account log in should be a hint you are on the wrong side of logic.
No ones said that though, have they, did you miss the word and? or are you a little more lacking than we all thought?
i was referring to bones and maxpenguin, some co-incidence with both appeared at the same time both from Palmerston north. both have penguins.
living rent free in your head there would be plenty of space you for a dog as well.

[austingtir]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/12/04/is-the-washington-post-new-york-times-and-cnn-now-declaring-professor-mifsud-is-not-a-russian-asset/

"The CIA primarily leaks PR spin to the Washington Post. The FBI primarily leaks PR spin to the New York Times; and the State Dept. primarily leaks PR spin to CNN. This narrative distribution model is the one constant in an ever changing universe."


https://www.sgtreport.com/2019/12/breaking-hes-dead-italian-prosecutors-believe-mysterious-deep-state-spy-joseph-mifsud-missing-for-2-years-almost-certainly-dead/

Italian prosecutors believe Joseph Mifsud, the Maltese professor who started Russiagate is ‘almost certainly dead.’

Joseph Mifsud approached Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos in the spring of 2016 and tried to plant dirt on him by claiming the Russians had Hillary Clinton’s ‘missing’ State Department emails.


Comey claimed Mifsud was a Russian spy, however, it is believed that Mifsud was working for the FBI or CIA as an informant sent to spy on Trump’s camp.

Mifsud hasn’t been heard from or seen since the spring of 2018.

Italian news outlet Il Giornale suggested that according to sources within the Agrigento Public Prosecution office, Mifsud is believed to be dead.




She's all about to come tumbling down folks.

[oldrider]

America on the Ropes? - By Paul Craig Roberts on December 22, 2019:- http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=199618 - A bob each way? - :confused:

[Quote]The Senate will not convict Trump of the charges, unless enough Republican senators can be blackmailed by the FBI, CIA, and NSA—police state institutions that have spy folders on everyone—or unless the military/security complex can bribe enough Republicans with large sums of money to vote against Trump.[unquote]

Who among them is not compromised? - How deep did that (Epstein) rabbit hole go again? - :scratch:

[Bonez]

Pelosi still hasn't forwarded articles of impeachment to congress. Dream on husaberg. I'm sure your imaginary freind will agree though.

[Bonez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB_l9wb0dz0

[oldrider]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB_l9wb0dz0

Says a lot about "left/right" political parties when they share interchangeable parts? - policies and backers no different either! - :msn-wink:

[pritch]

Says a lot about "left/right" political parties when they share interchangeable parts?

Some politicians are very flexible. So flexible they can get their head up their own arse. He was apparently worried about the Republican voters in his district. He still needs to worry because some of them might not like a former Democrat. He'll get zero love from the Ds.

There was also a former Republican voted for impeachment but he is a tad more realistic, he seems to have zero expectation of being re elected.

[pritch]

The orange loon must've been in a hurry that morning, his paint job is incomplete.